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		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Solgaleo_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&amp;diff=2466307</id>
		<title>Talk:Solgaleo (Pokémon)</title>
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		<updated>2016-07-03T03:22:50Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Error */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Russian name==&lt;br /&gt;
Hello could someone add that this line to the in other languages section?&lt;br /&gt;
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|ru=Солгалео &#039;&#039;Solgaleo&#039;&#039;|rumeaning=Transcription of English name&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Raltseye|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF6464&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#11BB11&amp;quot;&amp;gt;alts&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Raltseye|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6890F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6464FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;y&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6890F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 13:50, 2 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Generation VII Pokemon tag ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This page needs to be included with the other Generation VII Pokemon. Lunala should be tagged as Gen. VII as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User: CWallace |&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family: Tw Cen MT;color:#00CED1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;C.Wallace&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] ([[User_talk: CWallace |&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family: Tw Cen MT&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]|[[Special:Contributions/CWallace|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family: Tw Cen MT&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Contribs&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]) 15:18, 2 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mythology ==&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s probably based on the alchemical lion. (http://atlanteangardens.blogspot.com/2014/06/alchemy-green-lion-devouring-sun.html)  In alchemical mysticism the lion devouring the sun is symbolism for extracting gold by melting away impurities with acidic substances. {{unsigned|Zeta}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Page protection and awful writing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why is this page protected? What&#039;s the point of having a wiki if people can&#039;t edit it? The community is not large enough (as Wikipedia&#039;s is) to justify only letting admins edit a page, especially when the admins have such a terrible grasp of language. For example, &amp;quot;It may also involve Galileo, an ancient astronomer who believe the Earth rotated around the sun.&amp;quot; Firstly, it was slightly better before [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Solgaleo_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&amp;amp;type=revision&amp;amp;diff=2452876&amp;amp;oldid=2452708 this edit] (although the other changes in that edit were good). &#039;&#039;Incorporate&#039;&#039; is a much better word to use than &#039;&#039;involve&#039;&#039;. Secondly, there is an obvious grammatical error in the sentence. And thirdly, Galileo didn&#039;t &amp;quot;believe&amp;quot; the Earth rotated around the Sun (which should start with a capital in that context); he &#039;&#039;knew&#039;&#039; the Earth rotated around the Sun. He worked it out using science. It&#039;s a fact and therefore is not a belief. Can someone please either make these changes or unprotect the page so that others can edit (which is the entire point of a wiki)? [[User:McLerristarr|McLerristarr]] ([[User talk:McLerristarr|talk]]) 21:15, 2 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It is fully protected to prevent users from adding speculation and other unconfirmed information. It is standard procedure when a new Pokémon is released.--[[User:Force Fire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AB2813&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;F&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C87365&amp;quot;&amp;gt;orce&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Force Fire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#26649C&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;F&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#729ABF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ire&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 03:28, 3 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, I think the reference to heliocentrism should be removed altogether. After all, it was Copernicus&#039;s theory first (and Aristarchus&#039;s idea long before that). Galileo just supported and defended it from criticism; he didn&#039;t really contribute to it. His relation to the Sun was really just his studies on sunspots. It could, however, be phrased &amp;quot;...{{wp|Galileo}}, a famous astronomer who studied the Sun.&amp;quot; -- [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 06:53, 4 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::There&#039;s nothing particularly wrong about the sentence as currently phrased. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:08, 4 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Ah, I hadn&#039;t noticed that the sentence referencing Galileo had been changed since yesterday. That&#039;s my bad. But yeah, I agree, what&#039;s on there now seems totally fine to me as well. -- [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 07:15, 4 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Beast that devours the sun ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The &amp;quot;beast that devours the sun&amp;quot; line is very, very obviously a reference to alchemy&#039;s green lion. Can we add that as a source of inspiration, or is it too based in speculation? [[User:Pacack| &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#ffe700&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pa&#039;&#039;&#039;ᗧ•••&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ᗣ&#039;&#039;&#039;ck&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 05:43, 3 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Considering its steel typing and obvious sun and lion motifs, I&#039;d have to agree honestly. It&#039;s pretty heavily obvious that it is based on the alchemy green lion, to at least a certain extent. - [[User:050294|050294]] ([[User talk:050294|talk]]) 16:45, 3 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Indeed, considering AZ/Project Azoth, the fact that the project was codenamed Pokemon Rainbow (rainbows were a guide in alchemical processes) and the symbol on Litten&#039;s forehead - its obvious someone on the creative team at GameFreak is drawing inspiration from alchemical mysticism. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] ([[User talk:Zeta|talk]]) 14:30, 4 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sun weak to Fire? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it worth mentioning in the trivia section that despite being based off of the sun, Solgaleo has a weakness to Fire-type moves? --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 18:34, 4 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Same as Lunala, I&#039;d say no. It&#039;s not notable enough in the slightest to be trivia. And technically there&#039;s no reason a Sun-based Pokémon can&#039;t be weak to fire. If this was an undersea Pokémon that was weak to water, maybe, but definitely not this. -- [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:57, 5 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::It&#039;s not &amp;quot;based off the sun&amp;quot; though, it is based on the metaphorical imagery representing the purification of gold in alchemy, and it is the sun&#039;s emissary not the embodiment of the sun itself. Furthermore, the sun itself doesn&#039;t work that way. The sun isn&#039;t burning, there&#039;s no fire in or on the sun. It is a nuclear fusion reaction, not a burning object. While it may be slightly counter-intuitive for Solgaleo to be weak to fire, it is in no way as strange as people keep making out.[[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 23:34, 18 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::(To Kianglo) Since we don&#039;t talk about [[Stunfisk]], I would say not even that would count as trivia.  --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 03:20, 19 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::(To Me, Hurray!) Considering how some programs have the sun(light) boost fire-based techniques, not to mention the actual move called Sunny Day and sunny weather in general, I can easily see why it would come off as strange.  --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 03:20, 19 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Again, it is &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;the beast that &#039;&#039;&#039;devours&#039;&#039;&#039; the sun&#039;&#039;, and its the emissary of the sun, not the literal embodiment of the sun.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]11:02, 19 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Not really sure if you are referring to me or another user due to the comments being rearranged due to a misunderstanding, but here goes.  If it is my comment, then you should disregard the Me, Hurray portion and note that my comment is saying that it can be considered strange to other users.  If you are not, then you might need to note the user who you are responding to.  --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 19:52, 19 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==error on the page==&lt;br /&gt;
The French name for the radiant sun phase is &amp;quot;Phase Soleil Levant&amp;quot; as announced on the officail french site for sun and moon{{unsigned|Hades}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Error ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Along with {{p|Lunala}}, it was initially revealed in May 2016, but officially revealed on June 2, 2016.&amp;quot; This sentence in the opening states that Solgaleo was revealed twice. Is that what it is supposed to say, or is it an error? [[User:Litwick96|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:purple&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Litwick&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User Talk:Litwick96|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:grey&amp;quot;&amp;gt;96&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 13:35, 19 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Because the first &amp;quot;reveal&amp;quot; was just Solgaleo and Lunala appearing in a promotional video for Sun and Moon, but their names were not given. The boxart for the games was also revealed at that time, which depicted Solgaleo and Lunala clearly. It wasn&#039;t until June that they were given names, though, so that&#039;s really the &amp;quot;official&amp;quot; reveal. Nevertheless, this absolutely should be reworded, because the way it&#039;s written makes no sense. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900cc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TA&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;LK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:22, 3 July 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
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		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Charjabug_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&amp;diff=2465211</id>
		<title>Talk:Charjabug (Pokémon)</title>
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		<updated>2016-07-01T00:10:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Charjabug */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Unevolved? ==&lt;br /&gt;
we can&#039;t for sure say the denjimushi is unevolved, that is never confirmed in the release. DSDark 13:20, 30 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s a side effect of the template, I believe. Not much to do about that with editing the template, which probably isn&#039;t necessary just for this one thing. [[User:Crystal Talian|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#9F00C5&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Crystal&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talian&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 13:24, 30 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;d hide the template as long as it says so. The information about its evolution is in the intro anyway.--&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Dennou Zenshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#AB0909&amp;quot;&amp;gt;電&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#063A73&amp;quot;&amp;gt;禅&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#fff&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;Tahoma&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Den Zen&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 13:32, 30 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Not to mention that looks awfully like an evolution of Grubbin, though of course that&#039;s also unconfirmed. [[User:Betawolf33|Betawolf33]] ([[User talk:Betawolf33|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
::Right the problem is we don&#039;t know if for sure that denjimushi is unevolved. The template should be hidden for the time being until we have confirmation that grubbin evolves into Charjabug {{unsigned|DSDark}}&lt;br /&gt;
:::It has been hidden. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 13:40, 30 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Based off of it&#039;s name and Grubbin&#039;s Pokedex entry, it&#039;s a pretty safe call. [[User:Mettie7|Mettie7]] ([[User talk:Mettie7|talk]]) 19:11, 30 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Denjimushi = Denkimushi ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It seems like Denjimushi is based off of the Japanese Electric Caterpillar, the Denkimushi. Its name could be derived from the word for battery and Denkimushi. [[User:Arceusrox|Arceusrox]] ([[User talk:Arceusrox|talk]]) 21:34, 30 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Charjabug ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why exactly are we continuing to list this under its Japanese name when we have its English name? — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900cc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TA&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;LK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:10, 1 July 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Signature move/Archive 1</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Discuss please: Move Tutor vs. level-up */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Elemental Hyper Beams==&lt;br /&gt;
In Gen. III, only Charizard, Venusaur and Blastoise could learn [[Blast Burn]], [[Frenzy Plant]] and [[Hydro Cannon]], respectively. The Johto starters could learn it too, but only by being traded from XD (just like [[Lugia]] and [[Psycho Boost]]). Should the 3 HB variations be included in this list, since other &amp;quot;former&amp;quot; signature moves are also included?--[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 02:12, 28 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Feel free to add it at the bottom of the page, but note that all the fully-evolved starters can learn them in Generation IV. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 00:11, 4 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::You know, there&#039;s not really too much of a point to replying to topics well over a month old. --[[User:Martonimos|((&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#008000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Marton&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Martonimos|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#50C878&amp;quot;&amp;gt;imos&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;))]] 00:23, 4 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Skarmory?==&lt;br /&gt;
Should Skarmory with Steel Wing be included here? After all, it is the only Pokemon that can learn it naturally.&lt;br /&gt;
:That would be a good case to make. Question is, how many others do that? &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;E&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 03:14, 15 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Hitmonlee with {{M|Mega Kick}} [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 03:56, 15 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::And I&#039;m sure there are more, like Hitmonchan and {{m|Vacuum Wave}}.  I, too, am used to call moves &amp;quot;signature&amp;quot; when they&#039;re exclusive to few by leveling up. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:55, 18 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
What about [[Porygon-Z]] and [[Trick Room]]? Though Trick Room is a [[TM]], only Porygon-Z learns it naturally. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 17:55, 25 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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What about [[Metagross]] and [[Meteor Mash]]?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Mooshykris|Mooshykris]] 22:02, 20 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Clefairy]] learns [[Meteor Mash]], though...hardly exclusive...&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Myrmidon|Myrmidom]]&lt;br /&gt;
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And [[Chimchar]] with [[Facade]], this is the same scenario as [[Trick Room]]. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 15:18, 21 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Level-up otherwise exclusive to TMs? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, I just wanted to organize what&#039;s been said above. What we have so far is...&lt;br /&gt;
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{| border=1 align=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background: #C0C0FF;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! [[TM]] or [[HM]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Move]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Pokémon]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Level]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Generation]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | [[TM01]]&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{m|Focus Punch}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{p|Vigoroth}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 43&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 43&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM21]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Frustration}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Buneary}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 13&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM27]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Return}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Lopunny}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 13&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM42]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Facade}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Chimchar}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 31&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot; | [[TM47]]&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot; | {{m|Steel Wing}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot; | {{p|Skarmory}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 49&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 32&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 38&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[HM05]] ([[Generation III]])&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{m|Flash}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{p|Volbeat}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | --&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM70]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM72]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Avalanche}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Smoochum}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 31&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM72]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Avalanche}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Jynx}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 33&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM92]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Trick Room}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Porygon-Z}}&lt;br /&gt;
| --&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | [[HM07]]&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | {{m|Waterfall}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | {{p|Goldeen}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 37&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 38&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 38&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 37&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | [[HM07]]&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | {{m|Waterfall}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | {{p|Seaking}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 39&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 41&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 41&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 40&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;all&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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If anyone thinks of any others, go on and add them in here. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;E&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 23:54, 21 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: As I said above, Hitmonlee with {{M|Mega Kick}}.  [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 01:52, 22 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I placed it [[#Level-up_otherwise_exclusive_to_Move_Tutors.3F|here]] so that we stay in a [[Generation III]]/[[Generation IV|IV]] scope. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 04:22, 22 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Uh, Raquazza and Fly! Only he learns through level up!--&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A020F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Quick Man|Quick Man]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 12:57, 15 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*coughs* Salamence. That&#039;s like his family&#039;s evolution story line. And I think it should be at least mentioned about Abra, and how he only uses Teleport.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Read [[Salamence#Learnset|this]] [[User:Kkllnn|Blastoise RULZ]] 20:03, 12 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Meowth&#039;s Pay Day (Generation I&#039;s TM16) should probably be in this section as well... [[User:Blue Charizard|Blue Charizard]] 18:00, 2 April 2010&lt;br /&gt;
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== Level-up otherwise exclusive to Move Tutors? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This might be useful if &amp;quot;signature move&amp;quot; is furtherly redefined. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 04:21, 22 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{| border=1 align=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background: #C0C0FF;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Move]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Pokémon]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Level]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Generation]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | {{m|Mega Kick}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | {{p|Hitmonlee}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 53&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 46&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 46&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 49&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;all&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Level-up otherwise exclusive to breeding? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the article, {{m|Octazooka}} is listed as being signature of only {{p|Octillery}}, and {{m|Present}} is listed as being signature of only {{p|Delibird}} (just to mention some), which is true only if the definition of &amp;quot;signature moves&amp;quot; includes this type of moves. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 06:06, 22 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{| border=1 align=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background: #C0C0FF;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Move]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Pokémon]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Level]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Generation]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{m|Icicle Spear}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{p|Shellder}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 8&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}} ([[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|FR/LG]])&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 13&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{m|SmellingSalt}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{p|Makuhita}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 31&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 22&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{m|SmellingSalt}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{p|Hariyama}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 33&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 22&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Vacuum Wave}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Hitmonchan}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 26&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;all&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== About evolved forms ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Should stone-induced evolved forms be listed?  {{p|Pikachu}} and {{p|Raichu}} appear in the article.  However, the species that actually learns {{m|Volt Tackle}} is {{p|Pichu}} (making the [[Pokémon Battle Revolution#Colosseums|Battle Revolution Pikachu]] a [[Signature move#Trivia|trivia section]] material).  If Raichu can appear in the list, then {{p|Togekiss}} and {{p|Mismagius}} should, too. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:36, 22 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, I think that only the Pokémon that learns the move should be listed. So Pichu should be listed, but it&#039;s evolutions shouldn&#039;t. Only if the evolution learns the move then they an be listed. So both Cubone and Marowak learn Bonemerang, therefore both should be listed. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF594F;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESH&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User Talk:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#5FA7C6;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TALK&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 15:57, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Splash?==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Would [[Splash (move)|Splash]] be eligible for inclusion here? A bunch of Pokémon can learn the move nowadays, but back in Generation I it was very much [[Magikarp (Pokémon)|Magikarp]]&#039;s trademark. A similar case is already included on the list (Petal Dance, which was exclusive to the Oddish line in Generation I). [[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]] 08:48, 20 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You&#039;re right, according to the current status of the article.  But I think that kind of moves shouldn&#039;t appear in the list.  IMO, in any case, [[Generation III]] stuff is the only past generation that should be mentioned, as it&#039;s compatible with [[Generation IV]], but I still don&#039;t like the idea.&lt;br /&gt;
:I take it this all started with the ExtremeSpeed Dratini from the trivia section, right?  Well, that Dratini is obsolete, too.  I propose we get rid of ExtremeSpeed Dratini and there won&#039;t be need for the ExtremeSpeed Arcanine and the other obsolete groups. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:18, 20 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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NO! Lol, we should split this article into each Generation, with a trivia section for Pokémon that do not learn a move naturally. Like Dratini in GenII. I think this would be better. &amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F05030;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESH&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User Talk:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#5C8CFA;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TALK&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User:Tesh/Other|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#EEC226;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;FUN&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; 16:20, 20 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah... one of the things I was going to suggest was listing the likes of Splash, ExtremeSpeed and so on in a seperate table, for moves that were once exclusive to a single line, but aren&#039;t anymore. I think these moves are certainly worth mentioning somewhere in the article, as they might still be relevant to someone who&#039;s playing any of the older games. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:Bikini Miltank|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#ff7755&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Moo, I say.&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:33, 20 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::You mean like {{p|Blaziken}}&#039;s {{m|Blaze Kick}}? &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot; color:navy&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Hi&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:03, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Splash/Magikarp should be there, and Blaze Kick/Blaziken should have been there ages ago! &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Magnemite ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ok, sorry about that, but i think Zap Cannon should at least be there, other than the TM, only it and Porygon could learn it in Gen II. on that note, hows about Magnet Bomb, which only they and Nosepass/Probopass can learn? &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 04:59, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Skay. Magnet Bomb, however.. I think we should add that. [[User:Tina|Tina]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::idk, i still think Zap Cannon should be there. i didnt even know Porygon could learn it untill a few mins ago. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:06, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::As of GenIV, 13 Pokémon can learn Zap Cannon.. [[User:Tina|Tina]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::As in check the {{m|Zap Cannon}} page...&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot; color:navy&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Hi&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:12, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::ok, i thought there were notes for previous Gens. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:20, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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now wait a minute...Tina agreed that Magnet Bomb should be added as a sig move. besides, the page even says, &amp;quot;can only be learned by a single Pokémon &#039;&#039;&#039;or a very small select group of Pokémon&#039;&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot; both Magnemite and Probopass are Steel with magnet-ness. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:29, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::So? That would mean I had to kick in the kickingfeet Pokémon and the chicken...Reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
#They don&#039;t seem to be related...&lt;br /&gt;
#Five Pokémon isn&#039;t a small group&lt;br /&gt;
#Tina agreed, so I&#039;m saying the opposite...&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot; color:navy&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Hi&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:31, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::well...&lt;br /&gt;
::#they are related, magnet-ness alnog with both lvling up at Coronet&lt;br /&gt;
::#its technically only 2 Pokemon, Magnemite and Probopass, the page lists Mag&#039;s evo line and Probopass twice (for some reason)&lt;br /&gt;
::&lt;br /&gt;
::&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:37, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ack! You win...&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot; color:navy&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Hi&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:39, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::i didnt fight because its Magnemite, i just fought for the truth! that being said, i still think Blaziken should be on there with a note about Gen 3 or somthing. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:43, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Capitalized please...Hitmonlee and Blaziken seems select enough...&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot; color:navy&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Hi&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Splitting ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This page needs to be split up into Generations I think. There are too many prior to Genration IV. [[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B7AD96;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESHIGIGAS&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[Image:486MS.png|RAWR!!]] 20:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, No. That&#039;s not needed. It&#039;s fine how it is. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Theryguy512|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF7F00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Theryguy&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Theryguy512|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#5C8CFA&amp;quot;&amp;gt;5&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#5C8CFA&amp;quot;&amp;gt;1&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#5C8CFA&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:22, 8 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::But then we could sychronise the trivia into it as well. [[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B7AD96;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESHIGIGAS&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[Image:486MS.png|RAWR!!]] 18:11, 9 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Small group? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since Mathis seems to have decided to take a chainsaw to the list, I have to ask: How big is a &amp;quot;small group&amp;quot; of Pokémon? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:24, 12 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:small group denotes 2 evo lines. so, as seen above, with {{m|Magnet Bomb}}, only two pokemon can learn it, with the exception of their own evos. -- &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAG&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#696969;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 19:31, 12 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Ok. *points at the top of the page* What about {{m|Meteor Mash}} then? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 00:45, 13 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::well, somone should add that to the page. along with the others in my opinion. though, it could be argued that Math earlier had the right idea. super exclusive only. -- &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAG&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#696969;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:55, 13 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Staryu ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In Generation III, [[Staryu]] was the only Pokemon who could learn [[Camouflage (move)|Camouflage]]. [[Mothim]] can now learn it in Gen IV. Nevertheless, I would assume that Staryu would count as a Pokémon with a signature move before Gen IV. -[[User:TIMMY|TIMMY]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: Added.  [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 20:31, 13 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Really, exactly two Pokemon knowing a move is still pretty exclusive. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 09:07, 14 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::We&#039;re still missing {{p|Mothim}} on there though...I guess I&#039;ll add it unless anyone has any objections...[[User:Ht14|ht14]] 00:35, 16 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Skitty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, Skitty (and Delecatty, but Skitty Evolves into that) were the only ones to know assist until Generation IV, I think Skitty deserves a mention (Delecatty doesn&#039;t scince she only learns VIA from Skitty knowing before evelution).--&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A020F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Quick Man|Quick Man]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 13:26, 14 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cleanup ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article NEEDS some cleanup... some signature moves don&#039;t make sense and some are in a lot of pokemon, so they should be removed. I think if a pokemon prior to Gen IV now learns a GEN IV move, it shouldn&#039;t be mentioned, &#039;cause it&#039;s obvious that another pokemon will learn the same move (for example Relicanth that learns [[Head Smash (move)|Cranidos&#039; signature]]. in that case Relicanth should be removed). If someone doesn&#039;t agree with me, then just undo it. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:47, 9 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s fine. &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#4B0082&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Pachirisulover12|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFD700&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PL&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFA500&amp;quot;&amp;gt;12&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:48, 9 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::It&#039;s fine if it&#039;s only one or two different evolution families. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 04:04, 9 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Crush Grip ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What about the Combusken who has Crush Grip in PBR {{unsigned|Tannerbro}}&lt;br /&gt;
:That Combusken is unobtainable &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 18:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I have seen no proof that exsits. Can someone (an admin) hide that comment until there is a picture or video shown so we can back up such a far fetched claim? [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 02:47, 4 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, hiding comments is virtually the same as deleting them, which isn&#039;t allowed. &#039;&#039;[[User:Moldy orange|&amp;lt;sup style=&amp;quot;color:#4B5320;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Moldy&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Moldy orange|&amp;lt;sub style=&amp;quot;color:#ED9121;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Orange&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039; 02:48, 4 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I&#039;m actually now wondering if this person was mistaking Crush Grip for the breedable {{m|Crush Claw}}... &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 01:14, 16 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Meteor Mash ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Meteor Mash should definitely be included, like only 2 pokémon lines can learn it, and like skull bash, is listed here which also has 2 pokémon lines so why shouldn&#039;t Meteor Mash be? And why is some Hitmonlee&#039;s and other POkemon&#039;s moves are asterixed when Medicham later on has Hi Jump Kick and isnt asterixed?? It should only be asterixed when the sig move has gone completely over eg extremespeed which the others rayquaza etc arent listed... ... [[User:Wowy|--&amp;amp;lt;large&amp;amp;gt; &amp;amp;quot;&amp;amp;#91;&amp;amp;#91;User:WoWy&amp;amp;#124;&amp;amp;lt;font color=&amp;amp;quot;blue&amp;amp;quot;;&amp;amp;gt;WoWy&amp;amp;lt;/font&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;#93;&amp;amp;#93;&amp;amp;quot;&amp;amp;lt;/large&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;#39;&amp;amp;#39;(&amp;amp;#91;&amp;amp;#91;User talk:Wowy&amp;amp;#124;&amp;amp;lt;font color=&amp;amp;quot;green&amp;amp;quot;;&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;lt;&amp;amp;lt;/font&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;#93;&amp;amp;#93;)&amp;amp;#39;&amp;amp;#39;]] 05:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)Wowy&lt;br /&gt;
:I think this article is the most controvesrial thing... I think that a signature move should be a move that onle ONE Pokémon learns... I mean these are the REAL signature moves:&lt;br /&gt;
:*Volt Tackle (Pikachu family)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Pay Day (Meowth)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Kinesis (Kadabra and Alakazam)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Barrage (Exeggcute family)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Bone Club (Cubone and Marowak)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Lovely Kiss (Smoochum and Jynx)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Conversion, Conversion2 and Sharpen (Porygons)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Spider Web (Spinarak and Ariados)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Pain Split (Misdreavus)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Octazooka (Octillery)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Present (Delibird)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Sketch (Smeargle)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Triple Kick (Hitmontop)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Milk Drink (Miltank)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Aeroblast (Lugia)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Sacred Fire (Ho-Oh)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Arm Thrust (Makuhita and Hariyama)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Teeter Dance (Spinda)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Poison Tail (Seviper)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Ice Ball (Spheal family)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Mist Ball (Latias)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Luster Purge (Latios)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Doom Desire (Jirachi)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Psycho Boost (Deoxys)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Attack, Defend and Heal Orders (Vespiqueen)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Chatter (Chatot)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Rock Wrecker (Rhyperior)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Roar of Time (Dialga)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Spacial Rend (Palkia)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Magma Storm (Heatran)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Crush Grip (Regigigas)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Shadow Force (Giratina)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Lunar Dance (Cresselia)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Heart Swap (Manaphy)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Dark Void (Darkrai)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Seed Flare (Shaymin)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Judgement (Arceus)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Any other move should not be in the list, because more than a family learns it. Remember that a signature is something that&#039;s from your own and no one else. That&#039;s why repeated moves should not be in the list. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 18:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I agree with this.  Also, {{m|Bonemerang}} is another exclusive move to the {{p|Cubone}} family.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#003366&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;$aturn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#008000&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;¥oshi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#800000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE VOICES&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:55, 23 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Moves===&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ll add Splash becoz only Magikarp had Splash in Gen I with an asterix sign, while Meteor Mash also becoz there are some moves listed here that have more than one move per pokémon, usally two. And who said that only one family needs a signature move and when it has two it&#039;s not. I&#039;ve never seen any official guide saying that. And Icicle Spear, Smelligsalt and Vacuum Wave I&#039;ll add becoz Octazooka is here which can also be bred. These moves are VERY free to undo if u wish. Oh and i&#039;ll add assist with an asterix as only skitty can learn in Gen III--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 07:17, 14 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Signature moves can be bred, that&#039;s obvious, but no Pokémon can normally learn them. This article NEEDS to be redone. &#039;nuff said. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 12:56, 14 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== waterfall ==&lt;br /&gt;
I see someone&#039;s cleaned it up but waterfall should be included but with an * coz ONLY goldeen and seaking learnt in Gen I coz it wasnt a TM/HM there could be more moves like this--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 23:47, 1 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I also noticed mimic is a signatre move for sudowoodo, however in ONLY generation II because in Generation I it was a TM, I&#039;m not sure about MIMIC--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 23:50, 1 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::What about {{m|featherDance}}?--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 06:15, 6 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fact ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could someone add that signature moves are recommended for the pokemon learning them. Also, you forgot about the legendaries. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;- &#039;&#039;unsigned comment from [[User:Xknight 511|Xknight 511]] ([[User talk:Xknight 511|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xknight 511|contribs]]){{ #if:  | &amp;amp;#32;{{{2}}} |}}&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:In some cases they aren&#039;t. Take for example Ho-Oh in Gen II and III. He has Higher Attack than Sp. Atk, but his Signature move focuses in Sp. Atk. So it depends on the trainer. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 07:01, 6 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sorted by generation? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How ab out instead of making it so pokemon has a note saying when the move isn&#039;t signature, we make a page or section on this page for each generation? [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 15:22, 6 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you mean have sections like &amp;quot;Signature moves in Generation I&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Signature moves in Generation II&amp;quot;? If so, I think that&#039;s a great idea. [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 15:39, 6 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think that&#039; s very good idea too. [[User:RikkiKitsune|Rikki Kitsune]] 19:28, 17 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;ve been working on this for the past month, using a Word document. But it hasn&#039;t been going so well. You see, some signature moves just came off the top of my head, but I&#039;m having trouble remembering whether or not there are any signature moves other than the ones in my document. But don&#039;t fear, I&#039;ll get it finished soon. --[[user:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF4500;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Baby G]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[user talk:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D1E231;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk to me]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B87333;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;see my edits]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:58, 17 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unprotect please ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Kenji-girl protected this article because she was losing in the edit war. I told her that I promise to stop edit warring, but she&#039;s completely ignoring me. Can someone please unprotect this article? [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 15:38, 6 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Platinum ==&lt;br /&gt;
Should i add Platinum signature moves, coz I added scyther with Vacuum Wave and somone took it off... Look at Serebii and it says it can learn it...--&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Wowy|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color=#E7CE6B&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Wowy&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color=#42528C&amp;quot;&amp;gt;XD&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Wowy|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color=#FFD600&amp;quot;&amp;gt;\⁄&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color=#FF5A00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;!!!&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;-talk&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;  07:08, 15 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, yeah Serebii knows lots of things, but he isn&#039;t very relliable at times... and you NEED to fix your signature!!! &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 22:48, 15 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, Scyther can learn Vacuum Wave via the move relearner in Pastoria, so it is indeed one of Scyther&#039;s moves.--[[User:RiverAura|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;#00ccff&amp;quot;&amp;gt;*River*&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[User_Talk:RiverAura|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;#00ffcc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;*Aura*&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Camouflage ==&lt;br /&gt;
Why Camouflage is here? It can be learned by two pokémon --[[User:CorsolaSplash|CorsolaSplash]] 18:32, 15 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:As long as it&#039;s learnable by a relative few Pokémon (out of 493, two is VERY few), it goes here. I don&#039;t know where we should put the threshold, however, but as long as less than 1% of all Pokémon learn a move (not counting their evolutions) it should go here. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 01:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I kinda think it should be limited to one evolution family, ESPECIALLY if two very unrelated Pokémon (like Scyther and Hitmonlee as mentioned with {{m|Vacuum Wave}} above) both know the move. If you think that&#039;s too extreme/harsh, maybe if two somewhat similar Pokémon both know the move (like if they have common design elements or something). ←{&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Berrymaster|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;purple&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Berr&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;yma&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ster&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]|[[User_talk:Berrymaster|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]|[[Special:Contributions/Berrymaster|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;silver&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Contrib&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;}→ 01:24, 16 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Moves only count as signature moves if only one Pokémon are one evolution family can learn them. Besides, Hitmonchan and Scyther aren&#039;t the only 2 Pokémon that can legitimatelly have Vacuum Wave. About 30 others can learn it from the {{game3|Platinum|Platinum|}} [[move tutor|tutor]]. --[[user:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF4500;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Baby G]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[user talk:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D1E231;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk to me]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B87333;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;see my edits]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:01, 17 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Well, that brings up a similar issue... moves that can be learned other than level-up by many, but level-only for a few. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:06, 17 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I used to think that level up was all that counted, but about a month ago, Kenji-girl said that other methods ({{pkmn|breeding}}, [[TM]]s, etc.) do count when it comes to signature moves. So Vacuum Wave has actually never been Hitmonchan&#039;s signature move, since several others could learn it by breeding before Platinum. --[[user:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF4500;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Baby G]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[user talk:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D1E231;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk to me]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B87333;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;see my edits]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:48, 17 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Transform? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why signature move of {{p|Ditto}} and {{p|Mew}} is the {{m|Transform}} (which is written), a {{m|Fly}} isn&#039;t a signature move of {{p|Salamence}} and {{p|Rayquaza}}. [[User:Era64|Era64]] 11:29, 19 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, for Ditto at least, Transform is its &#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039; move. Mew just has that &amp;quot;DNA of all Pokémon in it&amp;quot; deal that lets him transform.&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;- &#039;&#039;unsigned comment from [[User:Phred|Phred]] ([[User talk:Phred|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Phred|contribs]]){{ #if:  | &amp;amp;#32;{{{2}}} |}}&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::But it&#039;s not a signature move, since more than one Pokémon learns it by level, and Mew and Ditto aren&#039;t in an evolution family. --[[user:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Cho]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[user talk:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;col]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[special:contributions/chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ate]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 20:31, 20 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It&#039;s still a &#039;&#039;small group&#039;&#039; of Pokemon. So it&#039;s limited to who can learn it. Also once again I think this needs to be split into generations. [[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B7AD96;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESH&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User_talk:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B7AD96;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;IGIGAS&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 20:55, 20 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::But Kenji-girl said that signature moves are moves only learned by one Pokémon, or one evolution family. &amp;quot;Small groups&amp;quot; don&#039;t count unless they&#039;re in the same evolution family. Also, I&#039;ve been working on generation splitting for a while now, and I&#039;m almost done. --[[user:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Cho]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[user talk:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;col]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[special:contributions/chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ate]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 20:59, 20 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It does say at the beggining of the page that they &#039;&#039;can only be learned by a single Pokémon or a very small select group of Pokémon&#039;&#039;. So Mew and Transform should be on there. If it&#039;s like 3 Pokemon in different evolution families and it can be bred into others, then it isn&#039;t a signature move really. And thank you for splitting this into generations (when you&#039;re done!). [[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B7AD96;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESH&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User_talk:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B7AD96;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;IGIGAS&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 21:11, 20 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Well, okay, maybe Transform isn&#039;t Mew&#039;s signature move, but it&#039;s surely Ditto&#039;s. I mean, it&#039;s the ONLY thing it can do. --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 23:50, 3 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Lucario==&lt;br /&gt;
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Aura Sphere----[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 17:47, 3 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No. Several others can use it as well. --[[User:Martonimos|((&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#008000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Marton&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Martonimos|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#50C878&amp;quot;&amp;gt;imos&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;))]] 23:53, 3 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::ya but some Pokémon can use other signature moves and pretty much every Lucario in the anime knows it,and I&#039;m not sure why Togekiss learns it all other Pokémon that learn it because their legendary I mean Chimchar gets Blaze Kick by breeding but it&#039;s still Blazikens move------[[user:Ultamatecharizard|AMERICAN ELECTION TODAY!]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Sigh....This is because {{p|Blaziken}} was the only one that could learn it until Gen IV... [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D5AA00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C0C0C0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 19:13, 4 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: Lucario is no more Legendary than Togekiss. Not even more rare. --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 07:26, 6 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Stop Removing Relicanth, Cranidos, Rampardos, and Mothim ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I quote, from the top of the page: &amp;quot;Signature moves are moves that can only be learned by a single Pokémon &#039;&#039;&#039;or a very small select group of Pokémon by level-up&#039;&#039;&#039; (with the exception of Pikachu&#039;s Volt Tackle), usually in the same evolutionary line.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
So stop removing it, ok? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 20:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t understand the idea behind &amp;quot;signature moves&amp;quot; in many evolutionary lines. Okay then, add there every other move that is in very few movepools. You, go then add Hoppip&#039;s Splash in Gen II (there was IIRC only Hoppip and Magikarp back then), Rayquaza&#039;s Extremespeed in Gen III and &#039;&#039;&#039;every friggin other move that is in 2 or 3 movepools&#039;&#039;&#039;, okay? Happy hunting, though it won&#039;t change my mind about the fact that the introduction there is &#039;&#039;&#039;wrong&#039;&#039;&#039;. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3fff00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;UltimateSephiroth&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;about me&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chat&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:15, 16 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Maybe they should be there; I&#039;m personally too lazy to hunt them, and would rather either A) Keep it like it is, or B) get the intro changed, which is what you should do if you think its wrong. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 20:18, 16 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;d do the B) if I could, but I can&#039;t be sure which way (one family or few families) is more common among players and therefore my edit would be opinionated. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3fff00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;UltimateSephiroth&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;about me&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chat&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:22, 16 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I don&#039;t know where the small group of Pokémon came from. That wasn&#039;t my idea of a signature move when I created this page. Maybe if the Pokémon were physically alike it would be okay. But Relicanth, Cranidos, and Mothim have nothing in common. Two different families should be the max if at all. Definitely not three. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 22:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It is two families: Relicanth and Cranidos for Head something or other; Mothim&#039;s being removed for a different move, Camoflouge or however its spelled. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 22:15, 16 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Either way, either Relicanth needs to be added because it also knows Head Smash (and is more adept at using it due to Rock Head) or Cranidos/Ramparados need to be removed.--[[User:JacobCrystal|JacobCrystal]] 16:15, 4 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==This page is in need of SERIOUS clean-up.==&lt;br /&gt;
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Some moves are counted as signature when they&#039;re limited to one Pokémon. Some are counted when they&#039;re limited to two Pokémon. Some three Pokémon. Where&#039;s the limit? I think two families should be the most.(Branched families are fine.) I&#039;d prefer only one family, but I&#039;ll accept anything, just agree on something.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some moves are counted as &amp;quot;signature&amp;quot; if they&#039;re limited to one(or a few) Pokémon NATURALLY...other moves are counted if they&#039;re limited OVERALL. I think that TMs/HMs/tutors/&amp;quot;bonus&amp;quot; moves should not matter, Waterfall is still Goldeen and Seaking&#039;s signature move. I&#039;d accept the other way too, but it needs to be CONSISTENT.&lt;br /&gt;
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Not to mention a few of the asterisks are wrong...and some without asterisks could use some. Or it could be split to generations, but I think asterisks work just fine.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Pikachu that knows Volt Tackle doesn&#039;t need to be in the one-off section. Yes, it&#039;s only Pichu&#039;s signature move...but Pikachus can normally learn it by evolving from Pichu! Pikachu shouldn&#039;t be in the table, that is correct, but it doesn&#039;t need to be in the one-off either. That should be for examples that COULD NOT happen otherwise, like the Dratini with ExtremeSpeed.[[User:Flint A|Flint A]] 20:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:My opinion is that if a move can be learned by any or all of the Pokémon of &#039;&#039;&#039;one&#039;&#039;&#039; family naturally or by TM, it is a signature move. If a move is shared with an other family or it is a TM that can be used or a move tutor move that can be taught on more than the family in question, it is not a signature move. Event Pokémon are obviously excluded. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3fff00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;UltimateSephiroth&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;about me&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chat&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:48, 20 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::That sounds fine to me, a more &amp;quot;exclusive&amp;quot; definition of signature move. Although if something was a signature move at one point, I&#039;d expect it there with an asterisk. The most important thing is that a definition is made. &amp;quot;More is lost by indecision than by wrong decision.&amp;quot;[[User:Flint A|Flint A]] 11:03, 21 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==GrassWhistle==&lt;br /&gt;
In GenerationIII, Roselia was the only one who could learn GrassWhistle by leveling up(to lv 29). There are many other pokemon that can learn it now in Generation IV, but it used to be a move unique only to Roselia(by level up). --[[User:PKFL 531|PKFL 531]] 01:38, 30 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Removing moves==&lt;br /&gt;
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Before I edit the actual page, I want to see if everyone agrees to this. &lt;br /&gt;
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I was thinking of removing the following moves since they&#039;re &amp;quot;Signature&amp;quot; titles are questionable:&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Petal Dance}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Crush Claw}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Splash}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Super Fang}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Beat Up}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Pain Split}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|FeatherDance}} &lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Assist}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|ExtremeSpeed}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Weather Ball}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Extrasensory}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Megahorn}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Waterfall}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Leaf Blade}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes yes, I know that&#039;s quite a lot of moves to pick out. But let&#039;s be honest, These moves are a little too common to be &amp;quot;Signature&amp;quot; thanks to other Pokémon showing up or Pokémon learning said moves via Breeding, Level up, Move tutor, TM/HM etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you don&#039;t agree with this, I&#039;ll ignore this. Or if you want only a specific move or two gone, I&#039;ll only get rid of those instead.&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;- &#039;&#039;unsigned comment from {{u|Ninterror}} ([[User talk:Ninterror|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ninterror|contribs]]) &#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Personally, I think it might be better to either do away with this article, or sort in into 4 articles, one for each generaton [[User:RB Golbat|RB Golbat]] 20:37, 30 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree with the idea of splitting them up as these moves were all once signature moves. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:53, 31 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Why make a whole other article? It says in the asterisk that it was &amp;quot;Prior to Generation X&amp;quot;. Just leave it as it is. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 02:46, 31 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Many of those moves are already noted as being signature moves prior to a Generation, as the person above said. However, Beat Up, Crush Claw, Pain Split, Feather Dance, Assist and Extrasensory, are different. They&#039;re signature moves in that only a select few Pokémon learn &#039;&#039;by level up&#039;&#039;, but can be taught in other ways. In the &amp;quot;Other signature move examples&amp;quot; section, such things are noted, where a move is learned by more than one Pokémon but only by one by level up. I say we move the mentioned moves to a whole new section for &amp;quot;Level Up Signature Moves&amp;quot;, where we list the signature moves if we go by moves learned through level and not by tutor or TM or breeding. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 05:32, 31 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Blast Burn, Frenzy Plant and Hydro Cannon ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I would just like to say that I have finally added the elemental hyper beams to the bottom of the page. Feel free to delete it if you like, but I do think that this edit would help the bulbapedia community.  ----&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GEN&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;1&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[User:Example|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;KING&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;([[User talk:&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]])&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 06:12, 14 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I would disagree here.  The signature moves of Charizard, Venusaur, and Blastoise have always been and will always be Flamethrower, SolarBeam, and Hydro Pump, respectively. SSBB even confirms that Charizard&#039;s signature move is Flamethrower (not Blast Burn). [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 18:13, 19 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::In most cases I would agree with you, but by the definition f signature move on Bulbapedia, that is extremely inacurate. Though true in a certain sense, Blastoise is not the only pokémon to learn Hydro Pump, and same goes for the rest. Also, no offense, but Super Smash Bros. Trophies are not exactly the most reliable source for canon information :p  --[[User:Gen1king|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;GEN&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]1[[User talk:Gen1king|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;KING&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 06:50, 28 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Former Signature moves! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We should have a section for Pokémon who&#039;s moves used to be signature moves, instead of keeping them with the other Pokémon. --Kimori Geckarbor Hinoarashi 13:48, 12 December 2009 (UTC) [[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|User talk:Kimori-Hinoarashi]] &amp;quot;I reject your reality, and substitute my own.&amp;quot; - Adam Savage, after being proven wrong.--&#039;&#039;Mythbusters&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Overhaul ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Alright, I went for it and changed the main body to only refer to Generation IV signature moves. The list of former signature moves near the bottom might be better as some sort of table, but I&#039;m not good at making tables and it wouldn&#039;t be like just copying the first table, as we&#039;d need &amp;quot;unsignature&amp;quot; dates. Also, that list should not be considered comprehensive; it&#039;s just the ones that were there already plus the ones from the old list. There might be some missing.&lt;br /&gt;
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The only controversial change I think is that I specifically limited signature moves to one evolutionary family only, but I seem to see quite a bit of support for that on the talk page and I feel it&#039;s the only sensible decision myself.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Yoshi348|Yoshi348]] 20:04, 8 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:just because you &amp;quot;see the support&amp;quot; doesnt mean you just do it, you dont have that power. it has to be definitively discussed for sure. i have undone your edits, but barring a proper definitive discussion, it can be re-added. i want to see what people think in an uncluttered manor. i personally dont see a huge problem in your way, but i also think we can find a better, cleaner layout than yours. -- &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAG&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#696969;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 20:16, 8 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Phantom asterisk ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Pokemon that had their signature moves learned by other Pokemon with the coming of a new generation were marked with an asterisk. There wasn&#039;t a note at the bottom saying what the asterisk was for, but rather one of those things you highlight (dunno what that&#039;s called). We should at least have a note in addition to it. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 00:00, 10 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Arcanine&#039;s ExtremeSpeed. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Shouldn&#039;t it say &amp;quot;Prior to Generation II&amp;quot;? It currently says &amp;quot;Prior to generation III&amp;quot;. --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 16:10, 4 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No, it was Arcanine&#039;s sig move prior to gen II, that is, before gen II. Extremespeed didn&#039;t exist prior to gen II {{unsigned|Malake256}}&lt;br /&gt;
:: Right. I forgot the distinction between Crystal and Gen. II. It was unique to Arcanine &amp;quot;Prior to Crystal&amp;quot;. --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 07:19, 6 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Metronome==&lt;br /&gt;
Signature moves can be moved by any pokemon knowing [[Metronome]]. My [[Togepi]] used metronome, and used [[Doom Desire]]! [[User:Panther2598|Panther2598]]&lt;br /&gt;
thats kind of obvious i mean metronome uses a random move from every move existing in a generation and they never said that they couldn&#039;t be used they just said that they can&#039;t be learned [[User:Juarmo|Juarmo]] 05:06, 11 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Oath of Fire, Water and Grass ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do you think we should add that?-[[User talk:444Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:brown&amp;quot;&amp;gt;444&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:444Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Z&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Zekrom|ekrom]] 04:23, 03 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:We should wait until the games are released. For all we know, they could be used by the other starters similar to the elemental Hyper Beams. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 07:18, 3 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Blast Burn, Frenzy Plant, and Hydro Cannon again ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In Generation III, since Charizard, Venusaur, and Blastoise are the only ones who could learn those techniques, they are considered signature moves in that sense yes? So shouldn&#039;t they be added to the list and mentioned on the respective moves articles?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 05:32, 11 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ll take it. [[Move tutor]]?--[[User talk:444Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:brown&amp;quot;&amp;gt;444&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:444Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Z&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ekrom&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 10:15, 4 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::They were only the only ones to learn those moves until [[Pokemon XD]] came out, which is still third-gen. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 10:23, 4 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Hmm... Prior to XD? Hahaha...--[[User talk:444Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:brown&amp;quot;&amp;gt;444&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:444Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Z&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ekrom&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 07:43, 5 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I think it&#039;s better not to take XD in consideration, because that game has distributed multiple signature moves, like Psycho Boost or Extrasensory. So I would say prior to generation IV--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 10:40, 18 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;prior to gen ...&amp;quot; signature moves ==&lt;br /&gt;
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If, according to te article, Signature moves are by definition only learned by either a single Pokémon or a small group of Pokémon, then a lot of the moves listed that say they were signature moves prior to a certain generation were still signature moves, (in cases such as extemespeed, for at least until the generation after) as the definition in no way implies that the pokémon that can learn it have to be related by evolution it just states either that the move can be learned only as a level up move and even then, only by a small number of Pokémon or that the move can only be learned by level up by a small number of pokémon (in which case almost all, if not all are still signature moves). because even though the way the definition is phrased it can be rephrased either way it most certainly can&#039;t be rephrased both ways because they are different from meanings from eachother but are synonyms to different definitions of the phrase that defines signature moves. [[User:Juarmo|Juarmo]] 05:07, 11 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ultimate Starter Type Moves==&lt;br /&gt;
techinically, the elemental hyper beams would be no less signature moves of the gen 1 starter evolutions in gen 3 than deoxys and its psycho boost (as purified shadow Lugia knew it). In fact, probably less of one as you catch the Lugia but you recieve the XD Jhoto starters from an event (albeit an in game one but still) also if Oddish and Glooms signature that ceased to be a signature by Gen 2 is on the list shouldn&#039;t arcanine and his extremespeed be on the list too. if i remember correctly dragon&#039;s den dratini didn&#039;t count towards extremespeed not still being arcanine&#039;s signature move in gen 2 so why should the XD Jhoto starters they&#039;re both in game events. [[User:Juarmo|Juarmo]] 23:28, 11 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Shadow Signature Moves ==&lt;br /&gt;
I think it should be noted that {{m|Shadow Bolt}}, {{m|Shadow Chill}}, {{m|Shadow Fire}} and {{m|Shadow Blast}} are {{p|Zapdos}}, {{p|Articuno}}, {{p|Moltres}} and [[Shadow Lugia]] Signature Moves in Pokémon XD. --[[User:Crikko|&#039;&#039;&#039;★&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6699FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Cri&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ққ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6699FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ѳ~&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;*&#039;&#039;&#039;]] 16:52, 13 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Clamp was another one of the Shellder line&#039;s signature moves... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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...Until Gen III that is. Could somebody add this? - [[User:050294|050294]] 01:21, 18 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Another idea ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I had an idea for a new column. I would like to mention what kind of signature move they are. &lt;br /&gt;
*Exclusive means: Only available to the poke himself, or the evolutionary line of that poke.&lt;br /&gt;
*Limited means: A few other pokes can learn it as well by leveling up or by breeding.&lt;br /&gt;
*LU exclusive means: The move is exclusive to a certain poke line by leveling up, but several other pokes can learn it by breading or tutoring.&lt;br /&gt;
*Common means: The move is now available to a plenty of pokes. Only mentioned if the move used to be exclusive.&lt;br /&gt;
*N/A means: it didn&#039;t exist that gen.&lt;br /&gt;
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! [[List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number|#]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! Name&lt;br /&gt;
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! Gen I&lt;br /&gt;
! Gen II&lt;br /&gt;
! Gen III&lt;br /&gt;
! Gen IV&lt;br /&gt;
! Gen V&lt;br /&gt;
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| {{MSP|015|Beedrill}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{P|Beedrill}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{M|Twineedle}} &lt;br /&gt;
| Exclusive &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; Lv. 20&lt;br /&gt;
| Exclusive &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; lv. 20&lt;br /&gt;
| Exclusive &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; lv. 20&lt;br /&gt;
| Exclusive &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; lv. 16&lt;br /&gt;
| Limited &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; lv. 16&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 10:40, 18 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Limited would not be implemented; signature move means it is limited to an individual or family, so those are former signature moves. Level up exclusive is possible, but I don&#039;t think it should be implemented. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 11:24, 18 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Levels ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s not clear from which game the levels are. I also don&#039;t see the point of noting the levels.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 10:41, 25 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Victini ==&lt;br /&gt;
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for the 14th Movie it was said that an event Victini would be given out have the move V-Generate and Ball of Fire, as V-Generate is currently a move only an event Victini can know, should it be put in the &#039;one-off signature moves&#039; section? [[User:Azure42|Azure42]] 15:38, 31 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== My definition of &#039;Signature Move&#039; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I say the definition should be &amp;quot;A move that a Pokémon is best known for.&amp;quot; As a result, this means that a move that is common can be the signature move of another Pokémon (for example, Rollout can be learned by several different kinds of Pokémon, but Geodude&#039;s evolutionary family may have it as their signature move, because Graveler is said to use it often down mountains in Firered&#039;s description of it). Another example is Psycho Cut - Gallade would most likely have the attack as its signature move had this description of signature move been used. --[[User:Psyblade|Psyblade]] 18:43, 27 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think it&#039;s a very good point, however, Pokédex entries sometimes state misleading facts, such as Dusclops learning {{m|Hypnosis}}, which it actually can&#039;t. So, although a good definition of &amp;quot;signature move&amp;quot;, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s good enough to point Pokédex entries in the article. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 23:59, 27 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia?==&lt;br /&gt;
The trivia says, that Vespiquen is the only Pokémon with 3 signature moves, while the same is true for Kyurem (as the table says). Shouldn&#039;t it be edited? --[[User:KingisNitro|KingisNitro]] 08:46, 7 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, because Kyurem can&#039;t actually learn Ice Burn or Freeze Shock. They are speculated to be its signature moves. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 08:58, 7 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Cubone and Marowak==&lt;br /&gt;
Both of these are only listed under Former Signature Moves, however both have two current signature moves. Bone Rush, out. Bone Club and Bonemerang, good. So why aren&#039;t Cubone and Marowak under the current signature moves? [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 01:10, 13 July 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Current definition is SERIOUSLY flawed! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The current definition of signature move here is &#039;&#039;&#039;seriously&#039;&#039;&#039; flawed.  The definition should be the move the Pokémon is most known for, not any random move that is exclusive to it.  While at times moves that a Pokémon is most known for may also be exclusive to it (such as Smeargle&#039;s Sketch), that is not always the case.  For example, even though Charizard was the only Pokémon able to learn Blast Burn prior to XD, Charizard is never shown using it in any Pokémon media; usually Charizard is shown using Flamethrower, and in the anime, Seismic Toss.  Furthermore, Charizard is a Gen I Pokémon, and it is absurd to say that a Gen III move is its signature move, considering Charizard predates Gen III.&lt;br /&gt;
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I really think the definition should be corrected here. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 00:05, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t think it&#039;s flawed at all. A signature move exclusive to that Pokémon. Meaning that the move can only be learned by that Pokémon. While Rollout is well know for a Miltank for example that doesn&#039;t make it a signature move. Sketch is a signature move because only one Pokémon can learn it and that is Smergle. This was discussed before. [[User:Pokemaster97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;--Pokemaster&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;97&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:09, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Random move? How is it a random move when it&#039;s &#039;&#039;&#039;a move that can only be learned by a single Pokémon or its family&#039;&#039;&#039;? Just because a certain move is showed off more by a certain Pokémon does not mean it&#039;s its signature. Signature refers to a Pokémon&#039;s exclusive move which means it can only be learned by a certain Pokémon or at a certain time.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Your definition seems to be judged by what you have seen in the anime which is biased to all other media. All things should relate to the game which are used universally. Might as well say BubbleBeam is Piplup&#039;s signature move and Thunderbolt is Pikachu&#039;s. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:18, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::What about Ditto&#039;s Transform, which is obviously Ditto&#039;s signature move because it is Ditto&#039;s ONLY move, despite the fact that Mew can learn Transform as well?  The fact is, Charizard is never shown using Blast Burn in the anime or any other Pokémon media besides the main games.  Also, consider that Blast Burn is a tutored move, not a level-up move. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 00:46, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Plus, SSB confirms Flamethrower as Charizard&#039;s signature move. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 00:54, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Leveling up has nothing to do with it. Volt Tackle is an egg move that is bred on to Pichu. There&#039;s also Meloetta who can only learn its signature move through tutoring. And again, the amount of times the move is shown in the anime has nothing to do with it. In the defense of Transform, Mew has the capability of learning every move through the move tutor in XD from Generation III and below. Though I&#039;ll give you that Mew can learn that one by level up. Not to mention that it&#039;s Ditto&#039;s only move. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 01:03, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Also, SSB is not a true Pokémon game to be taking sources from... It&#039;s Charizard signature move in that game, not in the Pokémon games. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 01:03, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::So, could you tell me what was Charizard&#039;s signature move in Gens I and II? The definition of the word &amp;quot;signature&amp;quot; does not mean &amp;quot;exclusive&amp;quot;, it means what the Pokémon is most notable for. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 06:27, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Another example: Take a look at Vaporeon and Jolteon.  Obviously their signature moves are Acid Armor and Pin Missile, respectively, as confirmed by their Pokédex entries.  However, even in Gen I, Grimer and Muk were able to learn Acid Armor as well, and Beedrill was able to learn Pin Missile. If those aren&#039;t Vaporeon&#039;s and Jolteon&#039;s signature moves, I don&#039;t know what else can be. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 06:31, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::See... the thing is Flamethrower can be other Pokémon&#039;s most known move. Every single Fire-type can learn it in some way. It&#039;s not so signature when so many other Pokémon can use it too. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::::None of Vaporeon&#039;s and Jolteon&#039;s Pokédex entries say that Acid Armor and Pin Missile are their signature moves. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 06:47, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::While they don&#039;t mention the moves by name, they mention that Vaporeon can melt into water, and that Jolteon can raise its fur to pierce foes. That implies Acid Armor and Pin Missile, respectively. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 15:20, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
I think you&#039;re not understanding here. Not all Pokémon have signature moves. A signature move is a move only that Pokémon or it&#039;s family can learn. Examples: Meowth {{m|Pay Day}} Chansey and Blissy {{m|Softboiled}}, The Porygon family {{m|Conversion}} and {{m|Conversion 2}}. This is what a signature move is. Your argument is incorrect. [[User:Pokemaster97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;--Pokemaster&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;97&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 15:26, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, that is your own interpretation of a signature move, which is clearly defective for the reasons I gave above. Unless we find an official source confirming your interpretation is correct, it is nothing but a fan implication. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 18:16, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Your last comment applies equally to your own definition. I suggest you take a step back and calm down. Also, [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/signature?rdfrom=Signature#Adjective signature, used as an adjective] implies distinctiveness, not commonness. Thus, the current definition is correct to the meaning of the word, so you will need very strong official evidence in order for it to change. &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:17, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I don&#039;t feel like the definition is flawed, but maybe an allowance for Ditto would be nice. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 15:52, 10 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== {{p|Clefairy}} and {{m|Meteor Mash}} ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t understand this. In the [[Signature move#Other signature move examples|Other signature move examples]] section, it says: &amp;quot;Although {{p|Clefairy}} can learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Meteor Mash}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up in any Generation III game, the only Pokémon that were able to learn it legally before release of {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}} were {{p|Metang}} and its evolved form, {{p|Metagross}}.&amp;quot; However, the {{p|Metang}}, {{m|Meteor Mash}}, and {{p|Clefairy}} articles don&#039;t make any mention of this, and the sentence itself doesn&#039;t make any sense. --[[User:Enervation|Enervation]] 23:43, 10 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s saying that since you couldn&#039;t get Clefairy until FRLG came out, despite that Clefairy can learn Meteor Mash in RS, Clefairy couldn&#039;t because there weren&#039;t any Clefairy in RS. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 00:38, 11 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New design ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m REALLY liking the new template, but I think it could use a little more organization. Like, either we organize them by number (the only ones not by number are the ones grouped with their cross-generational evolutions), or by the generation in which they gained their signature move (then by number). I&#039;m not sure...what does everyone think? &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:LimeGreenCharizard|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;LimeGreen&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;[[User talk:LimeGreenCharizard|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF8C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Charizard&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Special:Contributions/LimeGreenCharizard|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00BFFF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;♂&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 16:35, 12 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree it should be done by Ndex number. It&#039;s too jumbled and a little confusing as it is. If someone wanted to look for Pikachu, they have to go down to Pichu, and that&#039;s just sloppy. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;★&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jo The Marten|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Jo the Marten&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Flygon (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;★&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ಠ_ಠ&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Cilan (anime)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#90C870;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;♥&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 16:43, 12 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah I agree with what was said above. It is kind of confusing. Ndex would be a little more organized. [[User:Pokemaster97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;--Pokemaster&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;97&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 16:45, 12 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::How about making the columns sortable? Also the Pikachu line&#039;s placement was something I forgot to fix, so I&#039;ll move them to 025. [[User:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#d0000d&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;chiller&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pikiwyn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;]] 16:57, 12 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Sortable sounds fine to me. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;★&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jo The Marten|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Jo the Marten&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Flygon (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;★&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ಠ_ಠ&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Cilan (anime)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#90C870;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;♥&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 17:01, 12 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== V-create still a signature move? ==&lt;br /&gt;
Now that {{p|Rayquaza}} knows {{m|V-create}} via event (the same way that Victini learns it), is V-create still Victini&#039;s signature move, is it both Victini&#039;s and Rayquaza&#039;s, or is it not a signature move at all? Personally, I&#039;d remove it from the list for now, since now it&#039;s a one-off move for both Victini &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; Rayquaza. --[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:35, 20 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You make a lot of sense, and I&#039;d certainly wait for more people to weigh in.  However, I think that the name of V-Create certainly points it to it being a signature move of Victini, since many things about Victini are closely associated with the letter &#039;&#039;V&#039;&#039;.  There isn&#039;t really a set standard to which we can hold a &amp;quot;signature move,&amp;quot; so I think claiming its status as &amp;quot;debatable&amp;quot; is appropriate.  --[[User:Politoed666|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00B7EB&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;P&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008080&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;o&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Politoed666|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0095B6&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;L&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00CCCC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;i&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 20:27, 20 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::There&#039;s a bunch a moves on the list that are like that. Why change it now? Personally, I don&#039;t think we should change the status of a signature move just because of an event. They do that all the time. Like the Victini from the movie with Zekrom and Reshiram&#039;s moves and the Lugia from XD with Deoxys&#039;s move. Rayquaza cannot normally get that move and unless it is normal, then we shouldn&#039;t worry about it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:22, 21 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Just realized V-create is the move Victini only knows by event as well. Just still, to me it was obviously made for it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:24, 21 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Agreed - V-create was made for Victini (and I think that I made that clear on the page), but neither Victini nor Rayquaza can learn it through normal gameplay (both of them learn it via event). As for it being a signature move because it was made for Victini, I think {{m|Megahorn}} presents a similar case (though not to the same degree). It was made for {{p|Heracross}} in Generation II (why else would a generic horn attack be Bug-type?) until they made all sorts of other Pokémon, both old and new, able to learn it in future generations. Now, V-create is much more &amp;quot;characteristic&amp;quot; of Victini and probably won&#039;t become a widespread move, but having aesthetics and themes associated with a certain Pokémon doesn&#039;t seem like a criterion for being a signature move at the moment according to the page&#039;s description (we can always change it though). [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 04:15, 21 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: I personally don&#039;t feel it applies to what the meaning of signature move is as it says it can be learned by level up &#039;&#039;&#039;or other means&#039;&#039;&#039;. Think of it this way. If Relic Song is given by event to another Pokémon, say Cresselia, does that mean it&#039;s not Meloetta&#039;s signature move anymore because it doesn&#039;t learn it by level up even though that&#039;s what changes its form? Some common sense should be used in these instead of following the definition so strictly. If the Pokémon itself has an obvious connection to the move we should take that into consideration. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:35, 24 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Which is why I had to revert Darthrai and MisterE13--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 00:37, 24 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Actually, it&#039;s not as simple as that. The thing is, Meloetta can learn Relic Song via tutor; if the same tutor could be used to teach it to Cresselia, I wouldn&#039;t personally consider it Meloetta&#039;s signature move anymore (since they can both obtain the move on &#039;&#039;equally&#039;&#039; favorable terms). However, if Cresselia got the move via event, I&#039;d still personally consider it Meloetta&#039;s signature move, since Meloetta obtains it on &#039;&#039;more&#039;&#039; favorable terms. Right now, Victini and Rayquaza both know V-create on &#039;&#039;equally&#039;&#039; favorable terms (a one-off move for both Pokémon); however, you&#039;re right that we should consider if the Pokémon has an obvious connection to the move, so we should make that clear. (In Relic Song&#039;s case, it helps that, unlike V-create, it doesn&#039;t scream &amp;quot;THIS MOVE BELONGS TO MELOETTA&amp;quot;.) [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:05, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You&#039;re still not making any sense.  Relic Song is Meloetta&#039;s, and V-create is Victini&#039;s.  Roar of Time and Spacial Rend are Dialga and Palkia&#039;s respectively despite movie 10 Dialga and movie 12 Arceus.  Please stop dragging this--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 19:08, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::And Dialga and Palkia know Roar of Time and Spacial Rend via level-up, whereas Darkrai and Arceus only know it via event. It&#039;s not the same. Still, the current definition and status is good, I just think it&#039;s worth noting that Rayquaza and Victini both get V-create through similar methods despite it being Victini&#039;s signature move. I don&#039;t think this has ever happened before, especially since event-exclusive moves only debuted this generation.[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:19, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It is very much the same. Darkrai and Arceus learn it by equal means... Please stop. V-Create is Victini&#039;s signature move and happens to lend it to Rayquaza ONCE. Doesn&#039;t mean V-Create isn&#039;t Victini&#039;s signature movI&#039;d also like to point out&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Also, some of these moves can be passed down via breeding to other Pokémon &#039;&#039;&#039;or are known by certain event Pokémon&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;. Case closed. --[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 19:21, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Sure, but if we go a long time without this kind of thing happening again (&#039;&#039;event-exclusive&#039;&#039; signature moves being known by both the Pokémon they&#039;re intended for and another Pokémon &#039;&#039;on equal terms&#039;&#039;), maybe the issue can be revisited.[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:31, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::It doesn&#039;t have to be revisited. Leave it alone. Admins have already spoken on the matter and say to leave it alone--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 19:33, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: I meant like several years or when Gen VI comes around with more event-exclusive moves. When I said &amp;quot;a long time&amp;quot;, I meant &amp;quot;a long time&amp;quot; and that I don&#039;t think it&#039;s worth starting any further arguments at this point in Pokémon event history (so I&#039;m leaving it alone) Oh well, in any case it&#039;s just one minor piece of stating the obvious about one event, I shouldn&#039;t have made a big deal about it.--[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:34, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::By the definition of signature move, V-create is not Victini&#039;s signature move. However, it is a move that is associated with Victini. So based on Victini&#039;s associations with the move, you could say that it is its &amp;quot;signature move&amp;quot;, but that is not the definition of signature move. To keep the definition firm, we cannot consider it to be Victini&#039;s signature move unless it learns it via a method other than event, like how we didn&#039;t consider it Victini&#039;s signature move until it was distributed with it. So what should happen is this; V-create should not be listed as a signature move of Victini, but it should most certainly be listed under &amp;quot;Other signature move examples&amp;quot;. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 14:54, 30 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Can I suggest that, perhaps, V-Create isn&#039;t a Signature Move, so much as an Event Move? It&#039;s a move that cannot be known by any pokemon except perhaps via an Event, at least at a certain point. Another example would be Volt Tackle, which, until the release of Pokemon Emerald, couldn&#039;t be learned by any pokemon, or Kinesis, which couldn&#039;t be learned by any pokemon until Pokemon Yellow. Note that an &amp;quot;Event Move&amp;quot; wouldn&#039;t necessarily have been released via Event, it&#039;s just that, without an event, it would be unavailable up to a certain time (this could include moves only found as egg moves up to a certain point, if any exist). And on a side note, if a pokemon uses Metronome, and then Smeargle Sketches it, will it learn Metronome, or the resulting move? I ask because, if Smeargle sketches the metronomed move, then it would be possible for it to sketch Volt Tackle in RS/FRLG, or V-Create in DP. [[User:Aielyn|Aielyn]] 15:19, 1 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Another example of an Event move is a little more literal than the others - Snarl. At this time, it is only available through obtaining an Event Zoroark, and then breeding it to other pokemon from there. However, once another event, the Lock Capsule, is made available, it will be available as a TM... but still, it&#039;s an Event Move, since you need an event to access it in either case. [[User:Aielyn|Aielyn]] 06:56, 2 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Those are more &amp;quot;delayed release moves&amp;quot; than &amp;quot;event&amp;quot; moves. And I don&#039;t think it is really that relevant (by your definition, {{m|Kinesis}} is both a signature move and an &amp;quot;event move&amp;quot;). And to answer your question, Smeargle will Sketch Metronome. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 12:48, 2 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Isn&#039;t &amp;quot;delayed release&amp;quot; just another word for &amp;quot;event&amp;quot;, in this context? After all, you can catch Mew in Emerald, but you can&#039;t do so until a delayed release event. When Ruby/Sapphire were released, one couldn&#039;t legitimately get Volt Tackle. Not knowing how they&#039;d give you access to the move, wouldn&#039;t it be reasonable to consider it an event-exclusive move? That the &amp;quot;event&amp;quot; ended up being &amp;quot;the release of Emerald&amp;quot; is irrelevant to this point. And yes, Kinesis would be both an event move and a signature move - nothing wrong with that. It was an event move in Red/Blue, and then a signature move after that. Volt Tackle was an event move in RS/FRLG, and a signature move after that. V-Create is currently an event move. It may happen that, with the &amp;quot;third version&amp;quot; release, Victini will be able to learn V-Create by move tutor or level up, in which case it would be a signature move. Until the move can be &amp;quot;learned&amp;quot;, it really can&#039;t be called a signature move. It is &#039;&#039;speculated&#039;&#039; that the move was made for Victini, but it&#039;s only speculation, it hasn&#039;t been confirmed. It&#039;s entirely possible that, come the next pokemon game, it will be Rayquaza that learns it naturally, and not Victini... would that make it a Rayquaza signature move? [[User:Aielyn|Aielyn]] 04:37, 3 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The reason I used &amp;quot;delayed release&amp;quot; over &amp;quot;event&amp;quot; is because event specifically refers to things only available via event distributions, which is not true of things like Kinesis and Volt Tackle. It is unreasonable to assume a move is an event move if it has not been released yet—those are &amp;quot;unreleased moves&amp;quot; ({{m|Sacred Sword}} and {{m|Relic Song}} of course are exceptions due to being triggered by events, and {{m|Snarl}} was as well before it was available due to the event TM). However, I&#039;m not really sure how this &amp;quot;event move&amp;quot; argument is relevant here anyway. And Mew in Emerald is still event-exclusive. However, I agree with you that it is not currently a signature move, and that it may become one again in the next game. Also, I highly doubt Rayquaza will learn it outside of events if Victini doesn&#039;t—however, it is possible that if there is a move tutor, they would both be able to learn it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 10:03, 3 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::The relevance is that it gives an argument towards &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; including V-Create on this page. Indeed, I&#039;d argue that, even prior to the event Rayquaza, it was not a Signature Move, because the move was only available through an event, and thus couldn&#039;t be reliably associated with Victini, even if Victini was the only one that had gotten it. Let me give you a hypothetical analogy. Suppose that, during Gen III, an event occurred for FRLG, where you got a Voltorb that knows Volt Tackle. Would that make Volt Tackle a Voltorb signature move? I mean, it has &amp;quot;Volt&amp;quot; in it, and only Voltorb would have it. I&#039;d argue that, until the move is part of a pokemon&#039;s available moveset without an event, it cannot be a signature move. [[User:Aielyn|Aielyn]] 11:09, 3 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::In your hypothetical situation, I would argue that Volt Tackle would be Voltorb&#039;s signature move until another Pokémon could learn the move, with events always being ignored if there is another way for a Pokémon to learn it. However, since we agree about the way the page should be now and are merely debating hypotheticals, I don&#039;t think we need to continue this discussion unless someone argues for the inclusion of V-create. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 11:21, 3 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m sorry fellas but V-create actually is Victini&#039;s signature move!! Just not in Japan, because in that country Rayquaza can learn it. But this still means its Victini&#039;s signature move in the rest of the whole world!!! Just add V-create with a little star explaining its not a signature move anymore in Japan and we&#039;re done. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 14:28, 12 June 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==I&#039;m sorry...==&lt;br /&gt;
...but your definition of &amp;quot;signature move&amp;quot; is seriously flawed. Any definition of the term that doesn&#039;t allow Transform and Moonlight to be categorized as Ditto and Umbreon&#039;s respective signature moves is just wrong. So what if there were few other Pokémon who learned it in the generation it was introduced on? We&#039;re too worried about following rules and guidelines to the point that we&#039;re sacrificing common sense. Everyone considers Transform to Ditto&#039;s signature move despite Mew (who is only a event Pokémon and thus didn&#039;t even exist for the average player back in the Gen I days) learning it, too. And considering that Espeon&#039;s signature move is Morning Sun, it&#039;s obvious that the developers intended Moonlight to be considered the signature move of his counterpart, Umbreon. - [[User:Ericss|Ericss]] 17:53, 3 March 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I can see Ditto being an exception. But Umbereon and Moonlight? I never once thought of it being a signature move for Umbreon. And they only reason we consider it a signature for Espeon in Gen II is because it was the only Pokémon that could learn it.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Anyway, please look a few sections up to see the definition of &amp;quot;signature&amp;quot;. It means &#039;&#039;distinctive&#039;&#039;. It&#039;s not distinctive when other Pokémon can learn it too. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 05:44, 4 March 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Wouldn&#039;t that make Ditto a Signature Pokemon for Transform? [[User:Aielyn|Aielyn]] 09:25, 22 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::If another Pokémon can learn a move via level, TM or breeding it is not considered a signature move. A signature move must be a move only usable by one Pokémon (Mew can learn Transform and Clefairy, Oddish, Cresselia etc. can learn Moonlight).--[[User:Force Fire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#424B50&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;F&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#848A8D&amp;quot;&amp;gt;orce&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Force Fire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E3CED0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;F&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#EDDFE0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ire&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 10:08, 22 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Oshawott and evolutions==&lt;br /&gt;
Shouldn&#039;t Razor Shell be Oshawott/Dewott/Samurott&#039;s signature moves? [[User:JacobTheDoduo|JacobTheDoduo]] 19:36, 21 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Shellder [[Razor Shell (move)#Learnset|also learns it by level]]. So no. &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:55, 21 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Signature Move recovery ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, &amp;quot;Also, some of these moves can be passed down via breeding to other Pokémon or are known by certain event Pokémon.&amp;quot; Well how about Signature Move recovery? Sometimes there&#039;s only one Pokémon able to learn a move in that generation: Skarmory and Steel Wing for exemple, but because many Pokémon can learn it in a previous generation it isn&#039;t a Signature Move. This means that if TM 47 hadn&#039;t existed in gen 3 and 4 but in gen 5, Steel Wing would&#039;ve been Skarmory&#039;s Signature Move for two generations and it would&#039;ve lost this status in gen 5. But now its reversed and so it means Steel Wing isn&#039;t Skarmory&#039;s Signature Move in any generation!? I personally don&#039;t think so. And by the way Mega Kick is Hitmonlee&#039;s Signature Move, but there many Pokémon able to learn it in Firered and Leafgreen. So that&#039;s why Steel Wing (still for exemple) has to be Skarmory Signature Move. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 14:40, 12 June 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree. They have been added. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 11:22, 16 June 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== One table more. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In &#039;Other signature move examples&#039; are many exemples of moves which only one evolutionary line can learn by leveling up, but can be learned by other Pokémon too via TM. Could we give those exemples their own table? Just like the one for the real signature moves. This would make the page a little more clear. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 19:42, 28 July 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Squirtle&#039;s evolutionary family and Sharpedo are the only Pokémon to learn Skull Bash by leveling up, but other Pokémon could learn it through TM40 in Generation I.&lt;br /&gt;
Sudowoodo is the only Pokémon to learn Mimic by leveling up in Generation II, but other Pokémon could learn it through TM31 in Generation I and Move Tutor in Generation III.&lt;br /&gt;
In Generations II, IV and V and Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire, Hitmonlee is the only Pokémon who can learn Mega Kick. However, in Generation I and Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen, others could learn it through TM and Move Tutor respectively.&lt;br /&gt;
Unown can learn only Hidden Power; however, almost every other Pokémon can learn it via TM10 in Generation II and beyond.&lt;br /&gt;
Although several Pokémon can learn it by TM, until Generation III only Diglett and Dugtrio could learn Dig by level up.&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to Generation V, Vigoroth is the only Pokémon to learn Focus Punch by leveling up, although many other Pokémon can learn it via TM01.&lt;br /&gt;
Porygon-Z is the only Pokémon to learn Trick Room by leveling up, although that move can be learned via TM92.&lt;br /&gt;
Almost every Pokémon is able to learn Facade via TM42. However, Chimchar is the only one to learn it by leveling up prior to Generation V.&lt;br /&gt;
Although only Panpour and its evolution are the only Pokémon to learn Scald by leveling up, other Pokémon can learn it via TM55.&lt;br /&gt;
Also, Pansage is currently the only Pokémon to learn Grass Knot by leveling up, yet other Pokémon can learn it via TM86.&lt;br /&gt;
Kadabra and Alakazam are the only Pokémon to learn Ally Switch by leveling up, but other Pokémon can learn it through TM51 in Generation V.&lt;br /&gt;
Sawk is the only Pokémon to learn Rock Smash by leveling up, but other Pokémon can learn it through TM94 in Generation V.&lt;br /&gt;
Emolga is the only Pokémon to learn Volt Switch by leveling up, but other Pokémon can learn it through TM72 in Generation V. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 19:47, 28 July 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Do skill swap and steel wing really count as signature moves? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think something should only be considered a signature more IF only one Pokémon or only the Pokémon from one evolutionary line can learn it since the beginning. But I wouldn&#039;t say that steel wing is really Skarmory&#039;s signature move since it was a TM earlier on. Yeah, it&#039;s no longer a TM, but that doesn&#039;t make it Skarmory&#039;s signature move all of a sudden.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also regarding skill swap, that&#039;s also a move that used to be a TM, so I wouldn&#039;t say it&#039;s a signature move either. What do you guys think? [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 15:18, 22 March 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Steel Wing is definitely a signature move, because even though it was a TM for several generations, Skarmory learned it by level up in all those generations as well, and was the &#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039; Pokemon to learn it by level up. If anything, I think it should be listed as Skarmory&#039;s signature move in Gen 2-5 instead of just 5. Skill Swap is a slightly trickier matter that will probably require a more refined definition of &amp;quot;signature move&amp;quot; to resolve satisfactorily one way or the other.&lt;br /&gt;
:Personally, I think we should refine the definition so that it doesn&#039;t matter if a plethora of Pokemon can learn a move by a &amp;quot;lower&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;less common&amp;quot; method (i.e. TMs, Move Tutors, events); as long as only one family can learn it by level up, that is its signature move. (And if nothing learns it by level up and only one thing learns it by another method, that&#039;s also a signature move, of course.) But that&#039;s just my opinion. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:01, 22 March 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::In that case would you say that {{m|return}} is {{p|Lopunny}}&#039;s signature move? Sure, that move was introduced long before Loponny was but Lopunny is the only Pokémon that learns it by level up. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 16:12, 22 March 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That&#039;s why I said Skill Swap (which is in the same boat) is a tricky matter. There should probably be a provision where widely/universally-available TMs like Return aren&#039;t signature moves unless the one Pokémon that learns it by level up has been able to learn it at least as long as the move has been a TM. On the other hand, something like Softboiled was obviously Chansey&#039;s signature move even in Gen 1, in which nothing learned it by level up and the TM was only learnable by Chansey and Mew (which, of course, can learn anything). Of course, those are both extremes on opposite sides of the spectrum, and examples that are somewhere in the middle (like Skill Swap) are more difficult to figure. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:24, 22 March 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A few things... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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First... Why don&#039;t egg moves disqualify a signature move? Due to them, moves like Present and Beat Up are VERY widespread, compared to moves like Softboiled and Needle Arm that get disqualified for very small numbers of other Pokemon.&lt;br /&gt;
Second... Why does Volt Tackle count as a Pikachu signature when it can&#039;t learn it by any means itself? (It can only get it by evolving a Pichu that knows it &amp;lt;which should also qualify Raichu and a bunch of other families&#039; Pokemon if this counts&amp;gt; or by events &amp;lt;which have been noted to generally not count&amp;gt;.)&lt;br /&gt;
Third... Why does Sacred Sword (and relatedly, Fusion Flare/Bolt) count as a signature move for the Swords of Justice (who aren&#039;t technically related by family) when Rolling Kick (which only Hitmonlee and Hitmontop, who are related, can learn, excluding egg moves) doesn&#039;t from Generation 2 onwards?&lt;br /&gt;
Fourth... Needle Arm isn&#039;t learned by anything other than Cacnea/Cacturne in Generation 4, either. (It&#039;s only marked as being signature in Generation 3.)&lt;br /&gt;
Fifth... Only the Whismur line learned Sleep Talk, except by breeding, in Ruby and Sapphire.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Misplacing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there a reason why Jynx (#124) is placed after Magikarp (#129)? I searched the rest of the list and didn&#039;t see this error again. [[User:PokefanR|PokefanR]] ([[User talk:PokefanR|talk]]) 23:10, 27 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== outrage and dragonite ==&lt;br /&gt;
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outrage was the dratini&#039;s family signature move in gen 2 and that isn&#039;t on the list [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 15:53, 24 June 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:By level-up, yes. Charmander and Larvitar can learn it by breeding, so I&#039;m not sure how to categorize this. [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 07:46, 27 June 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Breeding is ignored for signature moves. Because by that logic, eg. {{m|Pay Day}} would be signature only in G3-G4 (G1 has TM, G2 has breed from TM and G5 has breed), when it&#039;s signature since G2. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 09:04, 27 June 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::actually I just didn&#039;t see it it the list lol [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 12:28, 8 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nuzzle ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Would Nuzzle count as a pseudo signature as it can only be learned by Pikachu and it&#039;s imitators? [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] ([[User talk:Guybrush20X6|talk]]) 09:41, 15 November 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:That seems notable, I guess, but I&#039;m going to say no. It&#039;s like how Glare is only learnable by snake-based Pokémon (excluding breeding). Since all those rodents are unrelated by evolution, it just comes down to specifics on how the move is actually used (description involves &amp;quot;electrified cheeks&amp;quot;). --[[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiANGLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;([[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#cc00aa&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]])&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:22, 18 November 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Definition ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article doesn&#039;t give a clear definition of what conditions we consider a move to be a signature move and what conditions we don&#039;t. All it says is that &#039;&#039;Most are learned by leveling up but some can be learned through other means when no Pokémon can learn the move by leveling up&#039;&#039;. There&#039;s no addressing what disqualifies a signature move: do TMs? do Egg moves? do event moves? do all of these disqualify in all cases, or are there special circumstances? There&#039;s been a lot of disagreement on this talk page about what constitutes a signature move, so we need to actually state &#039;&#039;our definition&#039;&#039; in the article so it&#039;s clear to readers. I would do so myself, but I don&#039;t know what that definition is to me because {{tt|our criteria make no sense to me|Really, Soft-Boiled is disqualified from Gen I Chansey on this page because it&#039;s a TM, but there&#039;s no mention of &#039;&#039;since Generation II&#039;&#039; in Soft-Boiled&#039;s article?}}. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:38, 27 December 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Solosis line and Skill Swap? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Does Skill Swap really count as being a signature move for the Solosis line? Sure, they were the first ones to be able to learn it by level up, but many others could learn it through other means. Heck, the move itself appeared two generations before the Pokémon did. If no one has any objections, I think it should be removed. --[[User:RiverAura|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#00CCFF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;River&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User_Talk:RiverAura|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#00FFCC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Aura&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 00:16, 15 January 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, it definitely doesn&#039;t fit since it can be taught by Move Tutor in the same Generation it&#039;s listed as being a signature move in. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 00:31, 15 January 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Event moves... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Should Hold Back and Happy Hour really be considered signature moves? They&#039;re not naturally known by any Pokemon, and several moves that otherwise qualify as Signature moves on this list, such as Shift Gear, Spacial Rend and Fusion Bolt have been given to event Pokemon. The fact they&#039;re only known by 1 Pokemon seems meaningless since any Pokemon could (and in all probability, will) be given them. (And again, no Pokemon actually learns them naturally.)&lt;br /&gt;
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Incidentally, the list of &amp;quot;One-off signature moves&amp;quot; is rather incomplete. (Being both outdated, and lacking some earlier ones like XD&#039;s Frenzy Plant/Blast Burn/Hydro Cannon Gen 2 starters.)&lt;br /&gt;
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Given Egg Moves seem to be ignored, Whismur/Loudred/Exploud should have Sleep Talk as a signature move in Ruby/Sapphire and Spoink/Grumpig should have Magic Coat as a signature move in the entirety of Gen 3. If Hold Back and Happy Hour are deemed to be valid signature moves, then Snarl should be a signature move of Zoroark in Black/White since TM95 wasn&#039;t legitimately obtainable, and thus event Zoroark (or a trade back from BW2, which also shouldn&#039;t count, since otherwise it would disqualify things like Meowth&#039;s Gen 2 Pay Day) is the only Pokemon that can know it outside breeding in those games. [[User:RiverShock|RiverShock]] ([[User talk:RiverShock|talk]]) 23:54, 30 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In order for a Pokémon to qualify as having a signature move, it must meet one of the following conditions: (1) It must be the only Pokémon (or Pokémon family) to learn the move (excluding Smeargle using Sketch), or (2) It must be the only Pokémon (or Pokémon family) to learn the move by Level Up. At the time of this writing, Celebi&#039;s Hold Back and Inkay&#039;s Happy Hour qualify them for condition #1. If a later event is released giving the move to a different Pokémon, then they will cease being signature moves, and they will be removed. If a later game is released where the moves are available to more Pokémon, the same will occur. Celebrate and V-Create are good examples of this. They are event-exclusive moves, but they are available to multiple evolution lines, with Celebrate being found on both Pikachu and Eevee (plus evolutions), and V-Create being available to both Victini and Rayquaza. Shift Gear, Spacial Rend, Fusion Bolt, etc. are considered signature moves because their users qualify for condition #2, they are the only Pokémon capable of learning the move through Level Up. Snarl on Zoroark was a signature move of Zoroark in Black/White, however, it isn&#039;t listed because we don&#039;t list things by games, we list them by generation, and the move is not exclusive to Zoroark when you look at Generation V as a whole - which would include Black 2/White 2. Meowth&#039;s Gen 2 Pay Day is a signature move because it qualifies for both conditions in Gen 2. --[[User:GoldenSandslash15|GoldenSandslash15]] ([[User talk:GoldenSandslash15|talk]]) 04:14, 31 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, GoldenSandslash, we do frequently list things by game instead of generation. See, for example, the Alakazam line&#039;s Kinesis in Yellow or Hitmonchan&#039;s Vacuum Wave in Diamond/Pearl. Also, your condition #2 is wrong; a TM is also enough to disqualify it, even if only one family can learn it by level up. (I strongly disagree with this criterion, but for some reason it exists.) In any case, I agree that TM95 being unobtainable in BW shouldn&#039;t make Snarl Zoroark&#039;s signature move, because if you do get a TM95 in BW somehow (tradeback or cheating), it is programmed to be compatible with tons of Pokemon, so it&#039;s &#039;&#039;technically&#039;&#039; in their movesets, and it&#039;s not programmed to be in Zoroark&#039;s level up moveset at all. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
:::TMs aren&#039;t tradeable in Gen 5, so there has never been (and never will be) a way to teach a Pokemon a move via TM95 in Black/White without cheating. The only way TM95&#039;s compatibility is referred to at all in Black/White is by breeding a tradeback or this Zoroark. (Or a Smeargle that Sketched from this Zoroark or a tradeback, I guess.) And breeding doesn&#039;t disqualify a signature move. Why should unobtainable moves in a Pokemon&#039;s potential learnset count towards disqualifying a signature move? [[User:RiverShock|RiverShock]] ([[User talk:RiverShock|talk]]) 17:39, 31 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bone/Rolling Kick thing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The removed fact was:&lt;br /&gt;
 * Bone Club and Bonemerang are the only STAB signature moves throughout all 6 generations.&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t think Rolling Kick counts because Machop, Hitmontop, and Elekid can learn it. Thus the Bone attacks are the only true signature moves. (IMO, the only signature egg move is Volt Tackle)&lt;br /&gt;
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And in case someone says Kinesis, it does no damage, thus doesn&#039;t qualify for STAB. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 22:43, 8 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Regardless, Rolling Kick is still a signature move, &amp;quot;true&amp;quot; signature move or not. Once you try to add too many conditions to make a factoid seem unique, it just becomes not notable enough to add. --[[User:Carmenstar97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#95EB5C&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Carmen&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;★&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:Carmenstar97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FEBEE8&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(Talk |&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A6DAFC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;contribs)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:56, 8 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Discuss please: Move Tutor vs. level-up ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It has come to my attention on the {{m|Electroweb}} page that, for some reason, we consider it Joltik/Galvantula&#039;s signature move in BW, not in B2W2, again in XY, and then not in ORAS, simply because of the B2W2 and ORAS move tutors. This is frankly ridiculous and makes no sense whatsoever. It was also pointed out that Hitmonlee&#039;s Mega Kick is also subject to this problem in Gen III.&lt;br /&gt;
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The fact is that, in a post-Gen III world in which Pokémon can be and regularly are transferred forward and in which Move Tutor availability is extremely broad in some games and extremely narrow in others, the current criteria for signature moves are obscure, difficult to divine, and needlessly convoluted. The simple fact should be that if a Pokémon or evolutionary line is the only one who can learn a move (barring events), that should be its signature move, and if any other Pokémon can have legal access to it by any means (including intergenerational transfer), it should not be considered a signature move. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:32, 5 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ve actually agreed with that for a while; the only reason I undid your edit was because those were the rules lol. Can we please change this? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 20:12, 5 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think it&#039;s pretty possible to complain both ways.&lt;br /&gt;
::We already exclude events or other special circumstances (or {{m|Pay Day}} wouldn&#039;t be Meowth&#039;s signature move in Gen II/III), and you can kind of view transferred Pokemon like events, if nothing else in the game lets you pass down the move or anything. (...It looks like Hoppip can learn Pay Day by breeding in Gen II, though; by that, I don&#039;t support calling it Meowth&#039;s signature move for Gen II, actually.)&lt;br /&gt;
::I pretty much think a move should be a signature move in Generation [X] if no one can learn it newly outside of one family. Our intro is plenty ambiguous, though. If we could settle on one definition, I&#039;d certainly love to make it much clearer. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:03, 6 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think I both agree and disagree. I understand how it seems odd for Electroweb&#039;s status as a signature move to bounce back and forth, however that&#039;s not a particularly common occurrence, and I think it still fits in with the spirit of a signature move. After all, Audino had Secret Power as a signature move in Gen V, even though nearly any Pokémon could exist on those cartridges knowing that move through transfers. I disagree, then, that transfer availability disqualifies a move from being a &amp;quot;signature&amp;quot; move. I also think that the criteria for signature moves are in no way obscure or &amp;quot;difficult to divine&amp;quot;, regardless of whether or not I agree with them. A move is a signature move &#039;in a particular game&#039; if only one family of Pokémon—either evolutionary line or related Legendaries—can learn it without breeding. Transfers and events can be considered reasonable exceptions as they both require interaction outside the game itself (connection to another game or download server—conditions not pre-loaded onto the cartridge). Pretty clear-cut in my opinion. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:19, 8 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Why, then, do TMs and Tutors disqualify a signature move, but breeding does not? I have never seen a satisfactory answer for this, nor can I imagine that one exists. It&#039;s utterly arbitrary and senseless. It&#039;d be better to have it all-or-nothing. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:29, 8 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::If a move exists as a TM or Tutor move, the game is telling you that there are many Pokémon that can learn it. Like, the move is being advertised to you as something that can be &amp;quot;taught&amp;quot;. It&#039;s nearly impossible to explain; you either see it or you don&#039;t. All I can say is that it would make absolutely no sense for a TM/Tutor move to be learnable by one Pokémon (barring &amp;quot;special&amp;quot; tutor moves like Dragon Ascent; which are specifically mentioned to be FOR a specific Pokémon). Yes that happened in Gen I but we are far past that now. Breeding doesn&#039;t really carry that same weight, because when a move is gained by breeding, it is &amp;quot;passed down&amp;quot; by the parent who knows the move, rather than &amp;quot;taught&amp;quot; to the Pokémon from an outside force. That&#039;s really the best way I can explain it. It makes perfect sense to me. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:42, 8 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Pretty much. TM and Tutor moves are taught to the Pokémon and thus aren&#039;t natural. Breeding is natural as the move is passed down. As for Electroweb, that shouldn&#039;t count as it&#039;s only for a specific generation that it would count as a signature move, at least, in my opinion. Transfers are automatically excluded because the Pokemon that are transferred aren&#039;t from that generation--[[User:Force Fire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AB2813&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;F&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C87365&amp;quot;&amp;gt;orce&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Force Fire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#26649C&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;F&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#729ABF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ire&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 05:36, 8 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::I&#039;m confused by what you mean by that. Why shouldn&#039;t Electroweb count? Many other Pokémon have a signature move in a specific generation. Then again, I&#039;m not entirely sure what point you&#039;re trying to make, or even what you&#039;re saying about Electroweb&#039;s inclusion on this list. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:47, 8 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I&#039;m saying that a signature move should only count for the generation, not the game, i.e, it shouldn&#039;t matter if it is Joltik/Galvantula&#039;s signature move in BW/XY, if it wasn&#039;t their signature move for the whole generation, it doesn&#039;t count.--[[User:Force Fire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AB2813&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;F&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C87365&amp;quot;&amp;gt;orce&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Force Fire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#26649C&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;F&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#729ABF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ire&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 05:52, 8 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::So, if that&#039;s part of the definition we&#039;re going with, how should it be applied to various pages? It looks like after this decision was made, mentions of it being the Joltik family&#039;s signature move were removed from the Electroweb page, but not from this one. Is this an accidental inconsistency or is it not? Since this is the main page for signature moves, I suppose I could see it having a slightly less strict definition and have the main table use a game-by-game basis rather than a by generation one, while having it removed from move pages if it fails to meet that requirement. Since this is such an arbitrary, unofficial thing, having it take up space on the header of a move page if there are a bunch of disclaimers is probably undesirable. Still, there are plenty of other moves aside from Electroweb scattered across all generations that don&#039;t fit the &#039;whole generation&#039; criterion. Once the stance on this page vs. move pages is resolved, they could easily be sorted out.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::As for the other parts of the definition, I don&#039;t find that explanation for why egg moves don&#039;t disqualify a move from being signature to be even remotely convincing. Egg moves, TMs/HMs, and Move Tutors are all in the same boat for me — they are additional moves that can always be taught to a given species under the right conditions (right moves on parents, having the TM, having the payment/happiness criteria for tutors, etc.)  in a specific game/generation. If we take signature move to mean a move exclusive to a given species/family in a specific generation with minimal influence from events and previous generations (this is what it seems to be right now), it makes no sense to exclude egg moves. For example, if someone had looked at this page and its definition, then started playing ORAS and found a bunch of Pokemon through the DexNav that knew Present despite it supposedly being exclusive to Delibird, I would not be surprised if they became confused. Maybe not the best example, but my point is, either all three of these &#039;additional move&#039; categories should be included for signature move disqualification or all three should be excluded (and I much prefer the former).&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::The other two categories, past-gen moves and events, are more of a gray area to me, but since (aside from Gen I/II) it isn&#039;t possible to send a later-gen Pokemon back to learn the moves in question and &#039;born in current generation&#039; is officially recognized by the pentagon in Gen VI , it feels like enough of a difference to me. Excluding event moves also makes some sense to me, since they&#039;re exclusive to certain special Pokemon and not any Pokemon of that species. I&#039;m not so sure about in-game &amp;quot;event&amp;quot; Pokemon that don&#039;t hinge on real-world things though, like the gen 2 Extreme Speed Dratini, but that has the potential to make it more confusing. Unlike the things in the first two paragraphs, I don&#039;t feel too strongly about either of these. [[User:VioletPumpkin|VioletPumpkin]] ([[User talk:VioletPumpkin|talk]]) 14:48, 15 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::If we counted egg moves, we would lose a LOT of signature moves here. I think the implication of egg moves versus other moves is a good enough reason, as a move only obtainable by breeding isn&#039;t something that a particular Pokémon naturally has the ability to use (i.e. if you just go out and catch one, it will never learn that move, no matter what you try), and therefore it must be specifically passed down to an offspring by the only Pokémon that can naturally learn it. For example, {{m|Octazooka}} has been consistently regarded as {{p|Octillery}}&#039;s signature move; {{p|Horsea}} can learn it, but &#039;&#039;&#039;only through direct involvement with an Octillery&#039;&#039;&#039;. It will never learn Octazooka unless there is an Octillery involved somewhere in its lineage. A {{p|Pichu}} will never learn {{m|Present}} unless it has a {{p|Delibird}} somewhere in its &amp;quot;family tree&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::DexNav seems to throw a bit of a wrench into the &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot; idea with the wild egg moves thing, but that seems to just be more of a user-friendly feature so that players have a chance to gain access to egg moves that they might not be able to get otherwise, and also so players have the ability to take advantage of egg moves during story mode (since I imagine very few people take the time to chain-breed then), and perhaps even to introduce the concept to breeding novices, who might not have been dedicated enough fans/players to even know that it existed. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900cc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TA&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;LK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:11, 17 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
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		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Grubbin_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&amp;diff=2458950</id>
		<title>Talk:Grubbin (Pokémon)</title>
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		<updated>2016-06-17T05:00:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* In other lanuages */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==In other lanuages==&lt;br /&gt;
Could someone please add this section to the article&lt;br /&gt;
{{Other languages|color={{normal color}}|bordercolor={{normal color dark}}&lt;br /&gt;
|ja=Pokémon|jameaning=Pokémon&lt;br /&gt;
|fr=Larvibule|frmeaning=&lt;br /&gt;
|de=Mabula|demeaning=&lt;br /&gt;
|it=Grubbin|itmeaning=Same as English name&lt;br /&gt;
|ko=|komeaning=&lt;br /&gt;
|es=Grubbin|esmeaning=Same as English anme&lt;br /&gt;
|ru=Граббин &#039;&#039;Grabbin&#039;&#039;|rumeaning=Transcription of English name&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Raltseye|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF6464&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#11BB11&amp;quot;&amp;gt;alts&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Raltseye|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6890F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6464FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;y&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6890F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 17:35, 14 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Perhaps if you make it so its Japanese name isn&#039;t Baton Pass ;). Agojimushi is almost definitely from &amp;quot;ago&amp;quot; (jaw) and &amp;quot;kabutomushi&amp;quot; (beetle), but I don&#039;t know what else. There&#039;s definitely more in there but I don&#039;t have enough knowledge of Japanese to catch it. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900cc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TA&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;LK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:16, 14 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::The table only displays baton pass because I didn&#039;t know its Japanese name and therefore didn&#039;t write anything in that field, my friend :P see now it says Pokémon, why you may ask, just because I will respond ;) --[[User:Raltseye|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF6464&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#11BB11&amp;quot;&amp;gt;alts&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Raltseye|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6890F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6464FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;y&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6890F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 18:22, 14 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, we still know its Japanese name (アゴジムシ &#039;&#039;Agojimushi&#039;&#039;) so that should definitely be placed there, even if we haven&#039;t nailed down the origin yet. I&#039;m pretty certain on what I said before with 顎 &#039;&#039;ago&#039;&#039; (jaw), and 虫 &#039;&#039;mushi&#039;&#039; (insect) is a more accurate explanation for the last two characters. That still leaves a syllable unaccounted for, so someone who knows Japanese better will have to give their input on what the most likely explanation for ジ &#039;&#039;ji&#039;&#039; is. My best guess would have to be 磁 &#039;&#039;ji&#039;&#039; (magnetic). That would make sense given its described love of electricity (which may hint at the typing of its evolved form and thereby be significant enough to mention) but there&#039;s no official source linking it specifically to magnetism at the moment. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900cc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TA&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;LK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:00, 17 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Name Origin ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Likely comes from [http://www.dictionary.com/browse/grub?r=75&amp;amp;src=ref&amp;amp;ch=dic grub], and possibly &amp;quot;grabbing&amp;quot;. Definitely grub though. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 22:04, 14 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Grubbin_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&amp;diff=2457779</id>
		<title>Talk:Grubbin (Pokémon)</title>
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		<updated>2016-06-14T18:17:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* In other lanuages */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==In other lanuages==&lt;br /&gt;
Could someone please add this section to the article&lt;br /&gt;
{{Other languages|color={{normal color}}|bordercolor={{normal color dark}}&lt;br /&gt;
|jp=|jpmeaning=&lt;br /&gt;
|fr=Larvibule|frmeaning=&lt;br /&gt;
|de=Mabula|demeaning=&lt;br /&gt;
|it=Grubbin|itmeaning=Same as English name&lt;br /&gt;
|ko=|komeaning=&lt;br /&gt;
|es=Grubbin|esmeaning=Same as English anme&lt;br /&gt;
|ru=Граббин &#039;&#039;Grabbin&#039;&#039;|rumeaning=Transcription of English name&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Raltseye|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF6464&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#11BB11&amp;quot;&amp;gt;alts&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Raltseye|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6890F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6464FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;y&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6890F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 17:35, 14 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Perhaps if you make it so its Japanese name isn&#039;t Baton Pass ;). Agojimushi is almost definitely from &amp;quot;ago&amp;quot; (jaw) and &amp;quot;kabutomushi&amp;quot; (beetle), but I don&#039;t know what else. There&#039;s definitely more in there but I don&#039;t have enough knowledge of Japanese to catch it. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900cc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TA&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;LK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:16, 14 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Litten_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&amp;diff=2457274</id>
		<title>Talk:Litten (Pokémon)</title>
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		<updated>2016-06-13T03:57:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Number */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Litten&#039;s Name Origin==&lt;br /&gt;
I am sure it is based off of the words little, lit, and kitten, similar to Litleo. [[User:Chomper4|Chomper4]] ([[User talk:Chomper4|talk]]) 12:59, 10 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The name Litten may also be based on the Norwegian Liten meaning small. And I suspect that the &#039;&#039;&#039;Li&#039;&#039;&#039; part may be based on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liger Liger] (A hybrid cross between a lion and a tiger.) but we have to wait for the final evolution before we can confirm or de confirm that one. --[[User:Basinox|Basinox]] ([[User talk:Basinox|talk]]) 14:06, 10 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I think this is getting a bit too speculative. There isn&#039;t much reason to assume that the English name is based off of Norwegian at the moment. Lit an kitten can be assumed, but little and liger seem like a stretch to add as many meanings as possible without any substantial support. This is an issue that I&#039;m seeing on a lot of pages where one or two letters are used as a justification for adding as many semi-related words without any real support. --[[User:KingStarscream|KingStarscream]] ([[User talk:KingStarscream|talk]]) 21:12, 10 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I simply wonder why anyone hasn&#039;t considered that litter may be part of the name. It is a very important part of taking care of a cat, after all. --[[User:GameCubeAdvance|GameCubeAdvance]] ([[User talk:GameCubeAdvance|talk]]) 21:55, 24 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That&#039;s too farfetch&#039;d. Sure it has some kind of connection but still not a reference. And besides that&#039;s only if the cat&#039;s domestic, a wild cat wouldn&#039;t have a litterbox now would it? --[[User:Raltseye|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF6464&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#11BB11&amp;quot;&amp;gt;alts&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Raltseye|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6890F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6464FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;y&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6890F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 22:16, 24 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Regarding its Japanese name, Nyabby, where are people seeing &amp;quot;火 hi (fire)&amp;quot; anywhere? I think it&#039;s far too speculative to say that word had any part of this Pokemon&#039;s name. It&#039;s not like &amp;quot;Hihidaruma&amp;quot;. --[[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiANGLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;([[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#cc00aa&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]])&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:40, 26 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:There are words like 花火, where 火 is &#039;bi&#039;. That&#039;s how Japanese usually works when you join a voicable sound with another word/kanji. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:54, 26 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== head symbol? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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could the markings on its head be a kenji simbol like キ?[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 14:32, 10 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Nope. Its from the Alchemical symbol for Sulfur. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Sulfur_symbol_1_2.svg [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] ([[User talk:PowerPlantRaichu|talk]]) 19:59, 11 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::While there have been some theories that it could be a alchemic symbol called the Leviathan Cross (or simply Brimstone Symbol in Asia). But it is more likely just the style they used to draw the stripes on his head. A style which is fairly not uncommon in Japan.  --[[User:Basinox|Basinox]] ([[User talk:Basinox|talk]]) 20:09, 11 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I wouldn&#039;t call it more likely. It&#039;d be a pretty weird coincidence. Still though, at this point its anyone&#039;s guess. Hopefully one of its evolutions will make the design&#039;s purpose more clear, but i&#039;m not counting on it XD [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] ([[User talk:PowerPlantRaichu|talk]]) 11:07, 17 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Chinese Zodiac ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s been a trend for Fire-type starters and their evolutionary lines to be based off of an animal in the Chinese Zodiac. Charizard is a &#039;&#039;&#039;dragon&#039;&#039;&#039;, Cyndaquil is a &#039;&#039;&#039;rat&#039;&#039;&#039;, Torchic &amp;amp; Combusken are &#039;&#039;&#039;roosters&#039;&#039;&#039;, the Chimchar line consists of &#039;&#039;&#039;monkeys&#039;&#039;&#039;, the Tepig line consists of &#039;&#039;&#039;pigs&#039;&#039;&#039;, and the Fennekin line consists of foxes, a type of wild &#039;&#039;&#039;dog&#039;&#039;&#039;. Litten appears to be based off of a &#039;&#039;&#039;tiger&#039;&#039;&#039;, furthering this trend; it would be a good idea to add this to the main article under &amp;quot;origin.&amp;quot; {{unsigned|KingStarscream}}&lt;br /&gt;
:This is a very popular theory, but I&#039;m hesitant on it. Largely because Cyndaquil being a rat is a smidge of a stretch. Additionally, we should wait until more is known about Litten. [[User:Crystal Talian|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#9F00C5&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Crystal&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talian&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 22:21, 10 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think that if the final evolution ends up being a tiger than its real life influence is probably partly based on the Tiger Tabby Cat. Which while it current design does allure to this, with the way the stripes are designed, must still be considered a stretch as it has a lot more in common with the typical Bombay cat. --[[User:Basinox|Basinox]] ([[User talk:Basinox|talk]]) 20:18, 11 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Cyndaquil is based on an echnidna, which isn&#039;t even a rodent, and its final evolved form is a badger, which still isn&#039;t a rodent. It&#039;s like saying Donphan is a sofa. If you have to change something to make it fit the pattern, there is no pattern. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 14:23, 19 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Trivia Evolution ==&lt;br /&gt;
Don&#039;t we have his final evolution and the final evolution of {{p|Popplio}} on the {{g|Sun and Moon}} boxarts? If they are, shouldn&#039;t they be added to the Trivia or somewhere else? [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]) 06:39, 12 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:There is nothing to suggest the two Pokémon on the boxart are at all related to Popplio or Litten. Plus, there are too many differences between them for them to be evolutions, especially as Popplio and the Moon Pokémon are vastly different species (which doesn&#039;t mean anything in Pokémon, but still). I&#039;m pretty sure the two Pokémon on the boxart are completely unrelated Legendaries. --&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;[[User:S2daam|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F85888&amp;quot;&amp;gt;--s&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F8D030&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6890F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;m&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#98D8D8&amp;quot;&amp;gt;m :D&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; 06:50, 12 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Litten&#039;s Origin ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s pretty obvious Litten&#039;s a black cat, but has it been pointed out yet that it could possibly be a play on Bombay? It&#039;s a breed of cat that happens to be very intelligent and caring with solid black fur and bright yellow eyes, like Litten. If it really is supposedly a bomb cat with the fuse and sulfur, wouldn&#039;t it make sense for it to possibly be from Bombay cats? Err, sorry, this is going a little into speculation, but I thought I should at least point it out. [[User:Drbiohazmat|Drbiohazmat]] ([[User talk:Drbiohazmat|talk]]) 22:04, 19 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Litten&#039;s Japanese name as well as it&#039;s stripes suggest it is based on a tabby.[[User:Robbie|Robbie]] ([[User talk:Robbie|talk]]) 16:57, 23 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, its stripes seem to suggest that it&#039;s a tiger. The ones on its head are especially distinctive to the way cartoon tigers are often drawn. And then there&#039;s the coloring, too. --[[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiANGLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;([[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#cc00aa&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]])&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:40, 26 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::If it was tiger, it would have a thicker body and legs and round ears. Tabbies have stripes too.{{unsigned|Robbie}}&lt;br /&gt;
::::Yeah, and Giraffes have longer necks and Mammoths have trunks. But look what happened to Girafarig and Mamoswine, Pokemon doesn&#039;t necessarily have to follow real world things.--[[User:Force Fire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AB2813&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;F&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C87365&amp;quot;&amp;gt;orce&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Force Fire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#26649C&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;F&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#729ABF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ire&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 04:01, 26 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Some do. Compare Litten and Litleo.[[User:Robbie|Robbie]] ([[User talk:Robbie|talk]]) 12:21, 26 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I don&#039;t think the fact that it doesn&#039;t have a thick body and legs disqualifies it from being a tiger. It&#039;s still in its most basic stage--as an unevolved Pokémon, you can&#039;t really expect it to necessarily have those traits. &lt;br /&gt;
::::Look at it this way. Even {{p|Growlithe}}&#039;s page mentions that it has traits of tigers, and that evolutionary line is decidedly canine-based. Tigers absolutely deserve a mention in Litten&#039;s case. I&#039;m also going to agree with the point that some Pokémon are more loosely based on their real-life counterpart species than others. I mean, {{p|Pikachu}} hardly looks like a mouse... --[[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiANGLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;([[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#cc00aa&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]])&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 06:36, 28 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It has no body stripes. It barely has ANY stripes (just headstripes and rings around its legs), and certainly not enough to cry tiger at this moment. Growlithe, however, has the tiger stripes from the start and continue into their evolution, plus hindsight to the fact we know its entire line. There&#039;s no prove &#039;&#039;yet&#039;&#039; the Litten line was going to be tiger-based, but if that&#039;s where its&#039; line goes, we&#039;ll mention it. But right now it&#039;s an ordinary house cat. With flaming hairballs. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 15:50, 28 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Number ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In one of the japanese trailers released June 2nd, 2016 the pokedex numbers was shown for Alola and Litten is given 4 this should be reflected here DSDark 23:09, 2 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree, there&#039;s enough conclusive evidence to say that it&#039;s definitely &amp;quot;#004 Alola&amp;quot;. If they were going to split the dex into parts like with Kalos, the &amp;quot;part&amp;quot; could be added in later. Compare the template of any Gen VI Pokémon (such as {{p|Chespin}}) to see what I mean. --[[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:21, 4 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Keep in mind that updating a heavily used template like that infobox also puts a load on the wiki, so we (staff) may prefer to wait until we know the subdivisions anyway just so we&#039;re not going through that twice. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:01, 4 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::This also means the Litten is No. 725 in the National Dex {{unsigned|Theexploringgamer}}&lt;br /&gt;
::::There could be a number 0 in the alola dex (ala Victini), so we&#039;re not assuming its national dex number.--[[User:Force Fire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AB2813&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;F&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C87365&amp;quot;&amp;gt;orce&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Force Fire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#26649C&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;F&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#729ABF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ire&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 03:35, 12 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::If there is a number 0, this still means that they would be in the 720s. Could it be possible to put Rowlet, Litten, and Popplio as #72? for now? [[User:Theexploringgamer|Theexploringgamer]] ([[User talk:Theexploringgamer|talk]]) 14:16, 12 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::NO assumptions, thank you. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:33, 12 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::There&#039;s no point in putting a partial number. We all know in our hearts that it&#039;ll probably be in the 720s, but there is honestly no reason at all to put anything that&#039;s not the official National Pokédex number. We have no use for a number we&#039;re not sure on. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900cc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TA&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;LK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:57, 13 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Gallade (Pokémon)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Possible new category */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Altered some of the information to make Gardevoir less confusing. Gardevoir is a feminine yet gender neutral evolution of Kirlia. {{unsigned|Melinarat}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Quick question, is Gallade&#039;s mouth the beak-like part of his head or the semi-visible line below his eye? {{unsigned|Ytlow}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:Pretty sure it&#039;s the latter. -- [[user:Jioruji Derako|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#237d00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;J&#039;&#039;&#039;ioruji &#039;&#039;&#039;D&#039;&#039;&#039;erako.&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 17:14, 12 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Think maybe Gallade&#039;s English name came from Sir Galahad?  Just a random thought. {{unsigned|Shrikeswind}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Image==&lt;br /&gt;
[[:a:File:GalladeAnime.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
This is an image from the anime. I can&#039;t use it because it hasn&#039;t been uploaded yet and I can&#039;t upload it because I don&#039;t know if it is legal to use it since it is from serebii.net. So someone who knows what to do, please upload this picture or a better picture so we can use it in the article.[[User:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F05030;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Poke&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#007FFF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;maniac&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;102&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 07:02, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, Serebii would certainly not like it very much hotlinked. &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF9030&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#664444&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFD700&amp;quot;&amp;gt;G&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E0E0E0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;S&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DS!&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 10:13, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, nothing better at serebii.net. Nothing good at unown.un.funpic.org.[[User:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F05030;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Poke&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#007FFF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;maniac&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;102&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 22:18, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Link? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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who thinks Gallade looks like Link from Zelda?? &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; 22:20, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Quite Possible, colorwise that is.[[User:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F05030;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Poke&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#007FFF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;maniac&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;102&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 22:23, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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i think its quite a stretch, i just dont think it should be in the Trivia section &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; 22:28, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t really want it&#039;s to be in trivia. It way more than a stretch. Probably many lightyears long.[[User:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F05030;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Poke&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#007FFF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;maniac&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;102&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 22:35, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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uh...what? &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; 22:37, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You said it was quite a stretch. It is &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;way&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; more than that. A stretch that couldn&#039;t fit inside the universe.[[User:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F05030;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Poke&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#007FFF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;maniac&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;102&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 22:39, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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no, i got what you said, you just had a few too many errors to understand it. that being said, should it be taken out of trivia then? &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; 22:59, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes. There is little resemblance between them and it is unlikely that the idea of how the pokémon should look was taken from Link.[[User:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F05030;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Poke&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#007FFF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;maniac&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;102&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 23:00, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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its almost to say that Octillery looks like an Octork, but, unless things are really really close, i think they shouldnt be allowed. &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; 23:03, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Add to Trivia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Wouldn&#039;t Gallade be the first Fighting pokemon to learn a Ghost-Type move through Baby? It can learn Confuse Ray and Destiny Bond, so maybe we can add it to Trivia? {{unsigned|Nidolord500}}&lt;br /&gt;
:..not really. I mean, if it was the only Fighting-type to learn a Ghost-type move, THEN it&#039;d be notable, but otherwise, not really. [[User:Tina|Tina]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:39, 20 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Patriotic Gladiator ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Gallade is based off of a gladiator. Gladiators traditionally hail from Rome, Italy. Italy&#039;s flag&#039;s colors are green, white, and red, as are Gallades. Coincidence or not, I believe it deserves to be in the Trivia section. {{unsigned|Starleged}}&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s already in the Origin section. And the flag color is speculation, so I guess there&#039;s no need to add it anymore. &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E3E3E3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;►&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[User:Kevzo8|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A2958D&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Ҝə&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C0C0C0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;υz&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#BBBBBB&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ø8&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 03:36, 30 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ralts, Kirlia, and Gardevoir have the same colors, yet they aren&#039;t based off of Italian fighting styles. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 17:10, 30 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hourglass-shaped? Kilt? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, i&#039;m not sure what hourglasses the writer of the Physiology is use to seeing, but that is not a hourglass shaped figure.&lt;br /&gt;
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Being this is for a wiki on a kid oriented show, i&#039;ll use the pg talk on what its body looks like.&lt;br /&gt;
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If anything, it&#039;s body looks like a &amp;quot;novelty&amp;quot; smoking &amp;quot;accessory.&amp;quot; Similar to the one that got {{wp|Tommy Chong|Tommy Chong}} some legal trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
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Heck even the bottle from &amp;quot;I Dream of Jeannie&amp;quot; looks more like its body then a hourglass.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no way that looks like a hour glass. Black Widows have an Hourglass in its Physiology but Gallade doesn&#039;t.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also I fail to see how its lower body looks like a kilt. I don&#039;t see them every day, but i know what a kilt look like and Gallade does not look like it has a kilt down there. Google Kilt and look at the first image only (the others are NSFW.) [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 12:19, 1 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It does have a rough hourglass shaped body.... and you kinda made the description a bit worse, while a bit better. It was fine as it was, and all you had to do was a few minor tweaks, not redo the whole freaking thing. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 20:48, 1 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Male ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since Gallade is male only, why does the article say &amp;quot;it&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;he&amp;quot;? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 17:00, 5 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;ve been wondering that, and I think we did that while ago, but somebody said to keep &amp;quot;it&amp;quot;. I might be wrong, but I thought we did something like that. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 17:45, 5 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Trivia ==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it really notable that a Pokémon can&#039;t learn an Egg move via TM? I mean, if a Pokémon can learn a move via TM, why make it an egg move anyway? That just seems like common sense to me. Yes, it is available as a TM, but just because Gallade can&#039;t use it doesn&#039;t mean it should be notable that it can learn it from its father who can learn the TM. I&#039;m sure Gallade isn&#039;t the only Pokémon to be in that position.--[[User:Phantomjunkie|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Phantom&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Junkie&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 17:48, 28 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Name ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s name could also be based on Salad, you know its legs look like leeks. The Ralts evolutionary family have also been refereed to plants. ♢ [[User:DeadUniverse|DeadUniverse]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:DeadUniverse|Hello!]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; ♢ 20:57, 5 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:They do resemble leeks, though it may (or may not) be coincidental. Also, when were they compared to plants? That would certainly shed new light on Gallade&#039;s pre-evolution Kirlia&#039;s similarities to Cosmo from Sonic X (which for some bizzare reason is not mentioned anywhere in Kirlia&#039;s trivia section) &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:white; background-color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;X&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[User:Vuvuzela2010|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:blue; background-color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Vuvuzela2010&#039;&#039;&#039;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:white; background-color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;X&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:12, 5 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Name origin  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe Gallade&#039;s name came from arabic &amp;quot; جلاد &amp;quot; ( spells Jallade ) and that means &amp;quot;Executioner&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Is this trivia worthy?==&lt;br /&gt;
I noticed something unique about Gallade that sets him apart from all of the other 16 Pokémon that change one of their types after evolving. Before the Fairy-type was introduced in Gen VI, his pre-evolution Kirlia was a pure Psychic-type. Is it trivia worthy saying that Gallade is unique from all Pokémon that changed one of their types after evolving for his pre-evolution originally had one type before the Fairy-type was introduced in Gen VI? Or should this be put in Kirlia&#039;s page instead? --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 03:36, 2 September 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s neither interesting nor useful trivia, really, and doesn&#039;t sound like it would have lasting relevance. Even if it were, it would go on Kirlia&#039;s page. —&amp;lt;font face=&amp;quot;Segoe UI&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#fff&amp;quot;&amp;gt;The&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Best&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt; 05:14, 2 September 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moveset Filter ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe this is just my computer bugging up, but when I click on the filter buttons above Gallade&#039;s &amp;quot;Moves Learned via Level Up&amp;quot;, they don&#039;t sort in order. EG, clicking on Category should sort them into Physical, Special, and Status, but they&#039;re still very mixed up, beginning with Close Combat and ending with False Swipe (both physical). Does anyone else have this problem? &#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AB0047&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Scribbl&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039; 09:10, 8 June 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== mega trivia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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slowbro is branched and also mega evolves&lt;br /&gt;
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== Possible new category ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t know if any other Pokémon fit this strange criteria, but Gallade appears to be in a rare if not unique situation where it loses a previous typing upon evolving. So maybe that could be a category? &amp;quot;Pokémon that lose a type upon evolving&amp;quot; or something better worded? Mega Aggron might even technically fit that bill. [[User:Draceon|Draceon]] ([[User talk:Draceon|talk]]) 06:04, 11 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Categories are generally not created if they will only contain a very small number of pages. They&#039;re meant to &#039;&#039;group&#039;&#039; things, and when there&#039;s very few things, that&#039;s not much use. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:07, 11 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, I don&#039;t know. It&#039;s far from a &amp;quot;unique&amp;quot; situation, as it shares that distinction with many other Pokémon. That may be enough to warrant the creation of a category page. The other Pokémon who &amp;quot;lost&amp;quot; a type during evolution are, to the best of my knowledge: {{p|Vaporeon}}, {{p|Jolteon}}, {{p|Flareon}}, {{p|Espeon}}, {{p|Umbreon}}, {{p|Leafeon}}, {{p|Glaceon}}, {{p|Sylveon}}, {{p|Marill}}, {{p|Bellossom}}, {{p|Steelix}}, {{p|Scizor}}, {{p|Masquerain}}, {{p|Ninjask}}, {{p|Altaria}}, {{p|Drapion}}, {{p|Dragalge}}, and of course {{p|Gallade}} itself. That would bring the total to eighteen Pokémon whose pre-evolutions &amp;quot;lost&amp;quot; a type when they evolved. I&#039;m not counting Mega Evolutions as they&#039;re temporary. So it&#039;s more than &amp;quot;very few things&amp;quot;, since categories of around that number of entries or less do exist, but it may also be better applied to the pre-evolutions themselves, as they are the one who &amp;quot;lose&amp;quot; the types. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900cc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TA&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;LK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:23, 11 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::In that case...honestly, my own reaction is mostly, &amp;quot;So?&amp;quot;. (If others want to express their own opinion, that&#039;s fine; that&#039;s just mine.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:30, 11 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::It&#039;s definitely ambiguously necessary, but I&#039;m pleased to see how many examples actually exist - I forgot to count eeveelutions entirely - and I certainly didn&#039;t mean to say it should be a category &#039;&#039;because&#039;&#039; few Pokémon, even one, are in that weird situation, I really meant the seeming rarity of it intrigued me, and I wanted to see if there were other examples before pressing the creation of a category. Still... there&#039;s only 18 of them, so I&#039;ll leave it to others to decide if it&#039;s warranted. We may even get new additions to this &amp;quot;category&amp;quot; (patent pending) when Sun and Moon come out! At the very least, the category name could most likely be worded better than my initial attempt, and actually applying the category to the pre-evolutions might not be a bad idea... Raises a question in Gallade&#039;s case to be fair, as that&#039;s a branched evolution, but. Yeah. EDIT: Shedinja too, actually, so 19. [[User:Draceon|Draceon]] ([[User talk:Draceon|talk]]) 21:18, 11 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I intentionally left out {{p|Shedinja}} because it doesn&#039;t really &#039;&#039;evolve&#039;&#039; from Nincada per se; Ninjask is its evolution and Shedinja is just... there. I wouldn&#039;t personally include it in this list. However. For some reason I could swear I remember that this little bit of trivia used to exist on some pages, such as Swablu or Altaria&#039;s, some long time ago, and was since removed. I distinctly recall seeing something about how Swablu changes its primary type upon evolution (which was rare), and I can&#039;t imagine anywhere else where I would have seen it. &lt;br /&gt;
:::::And Tiddlywinks, you say &amp;quot;So?&amp;quot;, but there are a lot of really arbitrary categories on this wiki that would make a lot of other people say the same. For example, there&#039;s got to be &amp;quot;category&amp;quot; for every possible BST, most of which have only one Pokémon included in them. There&#039;s also a &amp;quot;category&amp;quot; for each and every method of evolution, one of which containing {{p|Feebas|every single Pokémon in the universe that evolves using a Prism Scale}}. Therefore, I hardly think that a lack of entries makes a category unworthy of creation. I&#039;m still not sure how to phrase such a category, though. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900cc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TA&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;LK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:09, 12 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::If you think &amp;quot;So?&amp;quot; is in response to, &amp;quot;Actually, there&#039;s several Pokemon that can fit the category&amp;quot;, casually dismissing that, you&#039;re quite mistaken. That&#039;s in response to the category idea itself (&amp;quot;They lose a type. OK...so?&amp;quot; I.e., IMO it&#039;s not very interesting/worthwhile.)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The BST categories are &#039;&#039;automatic&#039;&#039; (generated by the base stats template), and for all intents and purposes you can consider the evolution method categories automatic too (there&#039;s plenty reason for those). Categories like those are the exact reason I said &amp;quot;generally&amp;quot; right from the get-go; they&#039;re not what I was talking about. Something like {{cat|protection moves}} is a far better analogy. If we only had {{m|Protect}}, we wouldn&#039;t have created that category; but once a few more such moves appeared, it became a worthy grouping to make. 04:34, 12 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::I think the fact that it&#039;s rare makes it noteworthy. Pokémon overwhelmingly remain the same type, or gain a secondary type upon evolving (after being single-typed). The fact that only eighteen Pokémon share this distinction makes it notable enough that it&#039;s not a &amp;quot;regular&amp;quot; occurrence that should just be overlooked, but at the same time, the fact that an &#039;&#039;entire&#039;&#039; eighteen Pokémon share this distinction makes it more than just a blip on the radar that would only be worth mentioning on the pages of the few that it pertained to. The logic I&#039;m looking at here is, it&#039;s too many examples to list them on those Pokémon&#039;s pages as trivia. But for that reason there should be some sort of category page for it. I really don&#039;t see a reason why not; and it is somewhat notable from a gameplay standpoint, as these Pokémon&#039;s strengths and weaknesses may change drastically when they evolve. There&#039;s a huge difference between a Normal/Flying type like Swablu and a Dragon/Flying type like Altaria. In short, these eighteen Pokémon go against the unwritten expectations that come with evolution. Why shouldn&#039;t that get the slightest bit of acknowledgement? — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900cc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TA&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;LK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:44, 12 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Gallade (Pokémon)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Possible new category */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Altered some of the information to make Gardevoir less confusing. Gardevoir is a feminine yet gender neutral evolution of Kirlia. {{unsigned|Melinarat}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Quick question, is Gallade&#039;s mouth the beak-like part of his head or the semi-visible line below his eye? {{unsigned|Ytlow}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:Pretty sure it&#039;s the latter. -- [[user:Jioruji Derako|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#237d00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;J&#039;&#039;&#039;ioruji &#039;&#039;&#039;D&#039;&#039;&#039;erako.&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 17:14, 12 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Think maybe Gallade&#039;s English name came from Sir Galahad?  Just a random thought. {{unsigned|Shrikeswind}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Image==&lt;br /&gt;
[[:a:File:GalladeAnime.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
This is an image from the anime. I can&#039;t use it because it hasn&#039;t been uploaded yet and I can&#039;t upload it because I don&#039;t know if it is legal to use it since it is from serebii.net. So someone who knows what to do, please upload this picture or a better picture so we can use it in the article.[[User:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F05030;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Poke&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#007FFF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;maniac&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;102&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 07:02, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, Serebii would certainly not like it very much hotlinked. &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF9030&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#664444&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFD700&amp;quot;&amp;gt;G&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E0E0E0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;S&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DS!&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 10:13, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, nothing better at serebii.net. Nothing good at unown.un.funpic.org.[[User:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F05030;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Poke&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#007FFF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;maniac&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;102&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 22:18, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Link? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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who thinks Gallade looks like Link from Zelda?? &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; 22:20, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Quite Possible, colorwise that is.[[User:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F05030;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Poke&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#007FFF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;maniac&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;102&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 22:23, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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i think its quite a stretch, i just dont think it should be in the Trivia section &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; 22:28, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t really want it&#039;s to be in trivia. It way more than a stretch. Probably many lightyears long.[[User:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F05030;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Poke&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#007FFF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;maniac&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;102&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 22:35, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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uh...what? &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; 22:37, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You said it was quite a stretch. It is &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;way&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; more than that. A stretch that couldn&#039;t fit inside the universe.[[User:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F05030;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Poke&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#007FFF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;maniac&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;102&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 22:39, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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no, i got what you said, you just had a few too many errors to understand it. that being said, should it be taken out of trivia then? &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; 22:59, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes. There is little resemblance between them and it is unlikely that the idea of how the pokémon should look was taken from Link.[[User:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F05030;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Poke&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#007FFF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;maniac&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;102&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 23:00, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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its almost to say that Octillery looks like an Octork, but, unless things are really really close, i think they shouldnt be allowed. &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; 23:03, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Add to Trivia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Wouldn&#039;t Gallade be the first Fighting pokemon to learn a Ghost-Type move through Baby? It can learn Confuse Ray and Destiny Bond, so maybe we can add it to Trivia? {{unsigned|Nidolord500}}&lt;br /&gt;
:..not really. I mean, if it was the only Fighting-type to learn a Ghost-type move, THEN it&#039;d be notable, but otherwise, not really. [[User:Tina|Tina]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:39, 20 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Patriotic Gladiator ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Gallade is based off of a gladiator. Gladiators traditionally hail from Rome, Italy. Italy&#039;s flag&#039;s colors are green, white, and red, as are Gallades. Coincidence or not, I believe it deserves to be in the Trivia section. {{unsigned|Starleged}}&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s already in the Origin section. And the flag color is speculation, so I guess there&#039;s no need to add it anymore. &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E3E3E3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;►&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[User:Kevzo8|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A2958D&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Ҝə&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C0C0C0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;υz&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#BBBBBB&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ø8&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 03:36, 30 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ralts, Kirlia, and Gardevoir have the same colors, yet they aren&#039;t based off of Italian fighting styles. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 17:10, 30 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hourglass-shaped? Kilt? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, i&#039;m not sure what hourglasses the writer of the Physiology is use to seeing, but that is not a hourglass shaped figure.&lt;br /&gt;
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Being this is for a wiki on a kid oriented show, i&#039;ll use the pg talk on what its body looks like.&lt;br /&gt;
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If anything, it&#039;s body looks like a &amp;quot;novelty&amp;quot; smoking &amp;quot;accessory.&amp;quot; Similar to the one that got {{wp|Tommy Chong|Tommy Chong}} some legal trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
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Heck even the bottle from &amp;quot;I Dream of Jeannie&amp;quot; looks more like its body then a hourglass.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no way that looks like a hour glass. Black Widows have an Hourglass in its Physiology but Gallade doesn&#039;t.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also I fail to see how its lower body looks like a kilt. I don&#039;t see them every day, but i know what a kilt look like and Gallade does not look like it has a kilt down there. Google Kilt and look at the first image only (the others are NSFW.) [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 12:19, 1 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It does have a rough hourglass shaped body.... and you kinda made the description a bit worse, while a bit better. It was fine as it was, and all you had to do was a few minor tweaks, not redo the whole freaking thing. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 20:48, 1 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Male ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since Gallade is male only, why does the article say &amp;quot;it&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;he&amp;quot;? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 17:00, 5 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;ve been wondering that, and I think we did that while ago, but somebody said to keep &amp;quot;it&amp;quot;. I might be wrong, but I thought we did something like that. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 17:45, 5 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Trivia ==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it really notable that a Pokémon can&#039;t learn an Egg move via TM? I mean, if a Pokémon can learn a move via TM, why make it an egg move anyway? That just seems like common sense to me. Yes, it is available as a TM, but just because Gallade can&#039;t use it doesn&#039;t mean it should be notable that it can learn it from its father who can learn the TM. I&#039;m sure Gallade isn&#039;t the only Pokémon to be in that position.--[[User:Phantomjunkie|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Phantom&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Junkie&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 17:48, 28 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Name ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s name could also be based on Salad, you know its legs look like leeks. The Ralts evolutionary family have also been refereed to plants. ♢ [[User:DeadUniverse|DeadUniverse]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:DeadUniverse|Hello!]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; ♢ 20:57, 5 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:They do resemble leeks, though it may (or may not) be coincidental. Also, when were they compared to plants? That would certainly shed new light on Gallade&#039;s pre-evolution Kirlia&#039;s similarities to Cosmo from Sonic X (which for some bizzare reason is not mentioned anywhere in Kirlia&#039;s trivia section) &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:white; background-color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;X&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[User:Vuvuzela2010|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:blue; background-color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Vuvuzela2010&#039;&#039;&#039;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:white; background-color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;X&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:12, 5 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Name origin  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe Gallade&#039;s name came from arabic &amp;quot; جلاد &amp;quot; ( spells Jallade ) and that means &amp;quot;Executioner&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Is this trivia worthy?==&lt;br /&gt;
I noticed something unique about Gallade that sets him apart from all of the other 16 Pokémon that change one of their types after evolving. Before the Fairy-type was introduced in Gen VI, his pre-evolution Kirlia was a pure Psychic-type. Is it trivia worthy saying that Gallade is unique from all Pokémon that changed one of their types after evolving for his pre-evolution originally had one type before the Fairy-type was introduced in Gen VI? Or should this be put in Kirlia&#039;s page instead? --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 03:36, 2 September 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s neither interesting nor useful trivia, really, and doesn&#039;t sound like it would have lasting relevance. Even if it were, it would go on Kirlia&#039;s page. —&amp;lt;font face=&amp;quot;Segoe UI&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#fff&amp;quot;&amp;gt;The&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Best&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt; 05:14, 2 September 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moveset Filter ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe this is just my computer bugging up, but when I click on the filter buttons above Gallade&#039;s &amp;quot;Moves Learned via Level Up&amp;quot;, they don&#039;t sort in order. EG, clicking on Category should sort them into Physical, Special, and Status, but they&#039;re still very mixed up, beginning with Close Combat and ending with False Swipe (both physical). Does anyone else have this problem? &#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AB0047&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Scribbl&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039; 09:10, 8 June 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== mega trivia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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slowbro is branched and also mega evolves&lt;br /&gt;
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== Possible new category ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t know if any other Pokémon fit this strange criteria, but Gallade appears to be in a rare if not unique situation where it loses a previous typing upon evolving. So maybe that could be a category? &amp;quot;Pokémon that lose a type upon evolving&amp;quot; or something better worded? Mega Aggron might even technically fit that bill. [[User:Draceon|Draceon]] ([[User talk:Draceon|talk]]) 06:04, 11 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Categories are generally not created if they will only contain a very small number of pages. They&#039;re meant to &#039;&#039;group&#039;&#039; things, and when there&#039;s very few things, that&#039;s not much use. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:07, 11 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, I don&#039;t know. It&#039;s far from a &amp;quot;unique&amp;quot; situation, as it shares that distinction with many other Pokémon. That may be enough to warrant the creation of a category page. The other Pokémon who &amp;quot;lost&amp;quot; a type during evolution are, to the best of my knowledge: {{p|Vaporeon}}, {{p|Jolteon}}, {{p|Flareon}}, {{p|Espeon}}, {{p|Umbreon}}, {{p|Leafeon}}, {{p|Glaceon}}, {{p|Sylveon}}, {{p|Marill}}, {{p|Bellossom}}, {{p|Steelix}}, {{p|Scizor}}, {{p|Masquerain}}, {{p|Ninjask}}, {{p|Altaria}}, {{p|Drapion}}, {{p|Dragalge}}, and of course {{p|Gallade}} itself. That would bring the total to eighteen Pokémon whose pre-evolutions &amp;quot;lost&amp;quot; a type when they evolved. I&#039;m not counting Mega Evolutions as they&#039;re temporary. So it&#039;s more than &amp;quot;very few things&amp;quot;, since categories of around that number of entries or less do exist, but it may also be better applied to the pre-evolutions themselves, as they are the one who &amp;quot;lose&amp;quot; the types. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900cc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TA&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;LK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:23, 11 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::In that case...honestly, my own reaction is mostly, &amp;quot;So?&amp;quot;. (If others want to express their own opinion, that&#039;s fine; that&#039;s just mine.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:30, 11 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::It&#039;s definitely ambiguously necessary, but I&#039;m pleased to see how many examples actually exist - I forgot to count eeveelutions entirely - and I certainly didn&#039;t mean to say it should be a category &#039;&#039;because&#039;&#039; few Pokémon, even one, are in that weird situation, I really meant the seeming rarity of it intrigued me, and I wanted to see if there were other examples before pressing the creation of a category. Still... there&#039;s only 18 of them, so I&#039;ll leave it to others to decide if it&#039;s warranted. We may even get new additions to this &amp;quot;category&amp;quot; (patent pending) when Sun and Moon come out! At the very least, the category name could most likely be worded better than my initial attempt, and actually applying the category to the pre-evolutions might not be a bad idea... Raises a question in Gallade&#039;s case to be fair, as that&#039;s a branched evolution, but. Yeah. EDIT: Shedinja too, actually, so 19. [[User:Draceon|Draceon]] ([[User talk:Draceon|talk]]) 21:18, 11 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I intentionally left out {{p|Shedinja}} because it doesn&#039;t really &#039;&#039;evolve&#039;&#039; from Nincada per se; Ninjask is its evolution and Shedinja is just... there. I wouldn&#039;t personally include it in this list. However. For some reason I could swear I remember that this little bit of trivia used to exist on some pages, such as Swablu or Altaria&#039;s, some long time ago, and was since removed. I distinctly recall seeing something about how Swablu changes its primary type upon evolution (which was rare), and I can&#039;t imagine anywhere else where I would have seen it. &lt;br /&gt;
:::::And Tiddlywinks, you say &amp;quot;So?&amp;quot;, but there are a lot of really arbitrary categories on this wiki that would make a lot of other people say the same. For example, there&#039;s got to be &amp;quot;category&amp;quot; for every possible BST, most of which have only one Pokémon included in them. There&#039;s also a &amp;quot;category&amp;quot; for each and every method of evolution, one of which containing {{p|Feebas|every single Pokémon in the universe that evolves using a Prism Scale}}. Therefore, I hardly think that a lack of entries makes a category unworthy of creation. I&#039;m still not sure how to phrase such a category, though. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900cc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TA&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;LK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:09, 12 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hyperspace_Fury_(move)&amp;diff=2456534</id>
		<title>Talk:Hyperspace Fury (move)</title>
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		<updated>2016-06-11T09:25:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Sketch and Exclusivity */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I&#039;ve heard it ignores {{m|Substitute}}. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 18:06, 2 July 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sketch and Exclusivity ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Firstly, can {{m|Sketch}} copy this move? The text implies that no Pokémon other than Hoopa Unbound will be able to successfully execute it, but can it be Sketched, or is it like {{m|Chatter}}, which can&#039;t?&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of whether or not it can actually be copied by Sketch, it should be noted in this move&#039;s trivia that it is one of three true signature moves (the others being Chatter and Sketch). Chatter&#039;s article contains a bit of trivia reflecting this, and I think that Hyperspace Fury is a definite candidate for that factoid as well. I just am not entirely sure how it should be worded. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900cc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TA&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;LK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:07, 11 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It can be Sketched (and even called by Assist), but it fails unless the user is Hoopa Unbound. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 09:20, 11 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Still, the fact that it can only actually be used by a single Pokémon should be notable enough for trivia as it is for Chatter, no? — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900cc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TA&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;LK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:25, 11 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gallade_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&amp;diff=2456533</id>
		<title>Talk:Gallade (Pokémon)</title>
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		<updated>2016-06-11T09:23:45Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Possible new category */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Altered some of the information to make Gardevoir less confusing. Gardevoir is a feminine yet gender neutral evolution of Kirlia. {{unsigned|Melinarat}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Gardevoir is my favorite pokemon, and I like Gallade, but, i&#039;m still disapointed with his look. To big of a waste. {{unsigned|Gardevoir}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Quick question, is Gallade&#039;s mouth the beak-like part of his head or the semi-visible line below his eye? {{unsigned|Ytlow}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:Pretty sure it&#039;s the latter. -- [[user:Jioruji Derako|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#237d00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;J&#039;&#039;&#039;ioruji &#039;&#039;&#039;D&#039;&#039;&#039;erako.&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 17:14, 12 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Think maybe Gallade&#039;s English name came from Sir Galahad?  Just a random thought. {{unsigned|Shrikeswind}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Image==&lt;br /&gt;
[[:a:File:GalladeAnime.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
This is an image from the anime. I can&#039;t use it because it hasn&#039;t been uploaded yet and I can&#039;t upload it because I don&#039;t know if it is legal to use it since it is from serebii.net. So someone who knows what to do, please upload this picture or a better picture so we can use it in the article.[[User:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F05030;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Poke&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#007FFF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;maniac&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;102&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 07:02, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, Serebii would certainly not like it very much hotlinked. &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF9030&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#664444&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFD700&amp;quot;&amp;gt;G&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E0E0E0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;S&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DS!&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 10:13, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, nothing better at serebii.net. Nothing good at unown.un.funpic.org.[[User:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F05030;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Poke&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#007FFF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;maniac&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;102&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 22:18, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Link? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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who thinks Gallade looks like Link from Zelda?? &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; 22:20, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Quite Possible, colorwise that is.[[User:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F05030;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Poke&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#007FFF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;maniac&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;102&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 22:23, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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i think its quite a stretch, i just dont think it should be in the Trivia section &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; 22:28, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t really want it&#039;s to be in trivia. It way more than a stretch. Probably many lightyears long.[[User:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F05030;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Poke&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#007FFF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;maniac&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;102&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 22:35, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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uh...what? &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; 22:37, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You said it was quite a stretch. It is &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;way&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; more than that. A stretch that couldn&#039;t fit inside the universe.[[User:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F05030;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Poke&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#007FFF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;maniac&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;102&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 22:39, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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no, i got what you said, you just had a few too many errors to understand it. that being said, should it be taken out of trivia then? &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; 22:59, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes. There is little resemblance between them and it is unlikely that the idea of how the pokémon should look was taken from Link.[[User:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F05030;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Poke&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#007FFF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;maniac&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#4B0082;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;102&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 23:00, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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its almost to say that Octillery looks like an Octork, but, unless things are really really close, i think they shouldnt be allowed. &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; 23:03, 25 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Add to Trivia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Wouldn&#039;t Gallade be the first Fighting pokemon to learn a Ghost-Type move through Baby? It can learn Confuse Ray and Destiny Bond, so maybe we can add it to Trivia? {{unsigned|Nidolord500}}&lt;br /&gt;
:..not really. I mean, if it was the only Fighting-type to learn a Ghost-type move, THEN it&#039;d be notable, but otherwise, not really. [[User:Tina|Tina]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:39, 20 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Patriotic Gladiator ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Gallade is based off of a gladiator. Gladiators traditionally hail from Rome, Italy. Italy&#039;s flag&#039;s colors are green, white, and red, as are Gallades. Coincidence or not, I believe it deserves to be in the Trivia section. {{unsigned|Starleged}}&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s already in the Origin section. And the flag color is speculation, so I guess there&#039;s no need to add it anymore. &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E3E3E3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;►&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[User:Kevzo8|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A2958D&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Ҝə&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C0C0C0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;υz&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#BBBBBB&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ø8&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 03:36, 30 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ralts, Kirlia, and Gardevoir have the same colors, yet they aren&#039;t based off of Italian fighting styles. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 17:10, 30 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hourglass-shaped? Kilt? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, i&#039;m not sure what hourglasses the writer of the Physiology is use to seeing, but that is not a hourglass shaped figure.&lt;br /&gt;
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Being this is for a wiki on a kid oriented show, i&#039;ll use the pg talk on what its body looks like.&lt;br /&gt;
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If anything, it&#039;s body looks like a &amp;quot;novelty&amp;quot; smoking &amp;quot;accessory.&amp;quot; Similar to the one that got {{wp|Tommy Chong|Tommy Chong}} some legal trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
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Heck even the bottle from &amp;quot;I Dream of Jeannie&amp;quot; looks more like its body then a hourglass.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no way that looks like a hour glass. Black Widows have an Hourglass in its Physiology but Gallade doesn&#039;t.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also I fail to see how its lower body looks like a kilt. I don&#039;t see them every day, but i know what a kilt look like and Gallade does not look like it has a kilt down there. Google Kilt and look at the first image only (the others are NSFW.) [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 12:19, 1 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It does have a rough hourglass shaped body.... and you kinda made the description a bit worse, while a bit better. It was fine as it was, and all you had to do was a few minor tweaks, not redo the whole freaking thing. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 20:48, 1 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Male ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since Gallade is male only, why does the article say &amp;quot;it&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;he&amp;quot;? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 17:00, 5 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;ve been wondering that, and I think we did that while ago, but somebody said to keep &amp;quot;it&amp;quot;. I might be wrong, but I thought we did something like that. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 17:45, 5 December 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Trivia ==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it really notable that a Pokémon can&#039;t learn an Egg move via TM? I mean, if a Pokémon can learn a move via TM, why make it an egg move anyway? That just seems like common sense to me. Yes, it is available as a TM, but just because Gallade can&#039;t use it doesn&#039;t mean it should be notable that it can learn it from its father who can learn the TM. I&#039;m sure Gallade isn&#039;t the only Pokémon to be in that position.--[[User:Phantomjunkie|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Phantom&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Junkie&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 17:48, 28 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Name ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s name could also be based on Salad, you know its legs look like leeks. The Ralts evolutionary family have also been refereed to plants. ♢ [[User:DeadUniverse|DeadUniverse]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:DeadUniverse|Hello!]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; ♢ 20:57, 5 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:They do resemble leeks, though it may (or may not) be coincidental. Also, when were they compared to plants? That would certainly shed new light on Gallade&#039;s pre-evolution Kirlia&#039;s similarities to Cosmo from Sonic X (which for some bizzare reason is not mentioned anywhere in Kirlia&#039;s trivia section) &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:white; background-color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;X&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[User:Vuvuzela2010|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:blue; background-color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Vuvuzela2010&#039;&#039;&#039;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:white; background-color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;X&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:12, 5 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Name origin  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe Gallade&#039;s name came from arabic &amp;quot; جلاد &amp;quot; ( spells Jallade ) and that means &amp;quot;Executioner&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Is this trivia worthy?==&lt;br /&gt;
I noticed something unique about Gallade that sets him apart from all of the other 16 Pokémon that change one of their types after evolving. Before the Fairy-type was introduced in Gen VI, his pre-evolution Kirlia was a pure Psychic-type. Is it trivia worthy saying that Gallade is unique from all Pokémon that changed one of their types after evolving for his pre-evolution originally had one type before the Fairy-type was introduced in Gen VI? Or should this be put in Kirlia&#039;s page instead? --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 03:36, 2 September 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s neither interesting nor useful trivia, really, and doesn&#039;t sound like it would have lasting relevance. Even if it were, it would go on Kirlia&#039;s page. —&amp;lt;font face=&amp;quot;Segoe UI&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#fff&amp;quot;&amp;gt;The&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Best&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt; 05:14, 2 September 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moveset Filter ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe this is just my computer bugging up, but when I click on the filter buttons above Gallade&#039;s &amp;quot;Moves Learned via Level Up&amp;quot;, they don&#039;t sort in order. EG, clicking on Category should sort them into Physical, Special, and Status, but they&#039;re still very mixed up, beginning with Close Combat and ending with False Swipe (both physical). Does anyone else have this problem? &#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AB0047&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Scribbl&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039; 09:10, 8 June 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== mega trivia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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slowbro is branched and also mega evolves&lt;br /&gt;
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== Possible new category ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t know if any other Pokémon fit this strange criteria, but Gallade appears to be in a rare if not unique situation where it loses a previous typing upon evolving. So maybe that could be a category? &amp;quot;Pokémon that lose a type upon evolving&amp;quot; or something better worded? Mega Aggron might even technically fit that bill. [[User:Draceon|Draceon]] ([[User talk:Draceon|talk]]) 06:04, 11 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Categories are generally not created if they will only contain a very small number of pages. They&#039;re meant to &#039;&#039;group&#039;&#039; things, and when there&#039;s very few things, that&#039;s not much use. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:07, 11 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, I don&#039;t know. It&#039;s far from a &amp;quot;unique&amp;quot; situation, as it shares that distinction with many other Pokémon. That may be enough to warrant the creation of a category page. The other Pokémon who &amp;quot;lost&amp;quot; a type during evolution are, to the best of my knowledge: {{p|Vaporeon}}, {{p|Jolteon}}, {{p|Flareon}}, {{p|Espeon}}, {{p|Umbreon}}, {{p|Leafeon}}, {{p|Glaceon}}, {{p|Sylveon}}, {{p|Marill}}, {{p|Bellossom}}, {{p|Steelix}}, {{p|Scizor}}, {{p|Masquerain}}, {{p|Ninjask}}, {{p|Altaria}}, {{p|Drapion}}, {{p|Dragalge}}, and of course {{p|Gallade}} itself. That would bring the total to eighteen Pokémon whose pre-evolutions &amp;quot;lost&amp;quot; a type when they evolved. I&#039;m not counting Mega Evolutions as they&#039;re temporary. So it&#039;s more than &amp;quot;very few things&amp;quot;, since categories of around that number of entries or less do exist, but it may also be better applied to the pre-evolutions themselves, as they are the one who &amp;quot;lose&amp;quot; the types. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900cc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TA&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;LK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:23, 11 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hyperspace_Fury_(move)&amp;diff=2456531</id>
		<title>Talk:Hyperspace Fury (move)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Sketch and Exclusivity */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I&#039;ve heard it ignores {{m|Substitute}}. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 18:06, 2 July 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sketch and Exclusivity ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Firstly, can {{m|Sketch}} copy this move? The text implies that no Pokémon other than Hoopa Unbound will be able to successfully execute it, but can it be Sketched, or is it like {{m|Chatter}}, which can&#039;t?&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of whether or not it can actually be copied by Sketch, it should be noted in this move&#039;s trivia that it is one of three true signature moves (the others being Chatter and Sketch). Chatter&#039;s article contains a bit of trivia reflecting this, and I think that Hyperspace Fury is a definite candidate for that factoid as well. I just am not entirely sure how it should be worded. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900cc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TA&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;LK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:07, 11 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Vital Spirit (Ability)</title>
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		<updated>2016-06-11T05:27:15Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Pokémon with Vital Spirit */ Corocoro scan lists Vital Spirit as second ability.&lt;/p&gt;
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|name=Vital Spirit&lt;br /&gt;
|jpname=やるき&lt;br /&gt;
|jptranslit=Yaruki&lt;br /&gt;
|jptrans=Willingness&lt;br /&gt;
|colorscheme=status&lt;br /&gt;
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|text3=Prevents sleep.&lt;br /&gt;
|text4=Prevents the Pokémon from falling asleep.&lt;br /&gt;
|text5=Prevents the Pokémon from falling asleep.&lt;br /&gt;
|text6=Prevents the Pokémon from falling asleep.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Vital Spirit&#039;&#039;&#039; (Japanese: &#039;&#039;&#039;やるき&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Willingness&#039;&#039;) is an [[Ability]] introduced in [[Generation III]]. Twelve {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} can have this Ability. It is one of three Abilities that prevent {{status|sleeping}}, the others being {{a|Insomnia}} and {{a|Sweet Veil}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Effect==&lt;br /&gt;
===In battle===&lt;br /&gt;
Vital Spirit prevents the Pokémon from being afflicted by {{status|sleep}} and {{m|Yawn}}. {{m|Rest}} will fail when used by the Pokémon.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Pokémon with this Ability will wake up if it is asleep in battle (such as if it gains the Ability outside of battle or by an effect like {{m|Skill Swap}}, or is put to sleep by a Pokémon with an Ability like {{a|Mold Breaker}}). If the Pokémon is holding a [[Chesto Berry]] or a [[Lum Berry]], it will be eaten before Vital Spirit wakes up the Pokémon.&lt;br /&gt;
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If a Pokémon with this Ability is drowsy due to Yawn, when it would fall asleep the Ability activates and keeps it awake.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Outside of battle===&lt;br /&gt;
If a sleeping Pokémon gains Vital Spirit by evolution or the [[Ability Capsule]], it will not wake up until sent into battle. Pokémon with Vital Spirit will not be put to sleep by the {{tc|Gentleman}}&#039;s {{p|Kirlia}} in the [[Battle Pike]] nor the [[Battle Arcade]]&#039;s game board.&lt;br /&gt;
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From {{game|Emerald}} onwards, if a Pokémon with Vital Spirit is leading the [[party]], the chance of encountering a higher-leveled wild Pokémon increases by 50%. It shares this effect with {{a|Hustle}} and {{a|Pressure}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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In [[Generation V]], Vital Spirit also prevented a Pokémon from visiting the {{pkmn|Dream World}} before it was shut down.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Pokémon with Vital Spirit==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/head|status}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|056|Mankey|Fighting|Fighting|Vital Spirit|Anger Point|Defiant}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|057|Primeape|Fighting|Fighting|Vital Spirit|Anger Point|Defiant}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|125|Electabuzz|Electric|Electric|Static|None|Vital Spirit}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|126|Magmar|Fire|Fire|Flame Body|None|Vital Spirit}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|225|Delibird|Ice|Flying|Vital Spirit|Hustle|Insomnia}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|236|Tyrogue|Fighting|Fighting|Guts|Steadfast|Vital Spirit}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|239|Elekid|Electric|Electric|Static|None|Vital Spirit}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|240|Magby|Fire|Fire|Flame Body|None|Vital Spirit}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|288|Vigoroth|Normal|Normal|Vital Spirit}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|466|Electivire|Electric|Electric|Motor Drive|None|Vital Spirit}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|467|Magmortar|Fire|Fire|Flame Body|None|Vital Spirit}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|506|Lillipup|Normal|Normal|Vital Spirit|Pickup|Run Away}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|???|Iwanko|Rock|Rock|Keen Eye|Vital Spirit}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/foot|status}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In the anime==&lt;br /&gt;
{{moveanime|type=status|exp=yes|gen=The user cannot fall asleep, and nullifies moves that cause sleep.|image1=Marcel Vigoroth Vital Spirit.png|image1p=Vigoroth}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=status|ms=288|pkmn=Vigoroth|method=Vigoroth attacks and destroys moves that would cause it to fall asleep with its claws.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtm|type=status|user=Marcel|user1=Marcel&#039;s Vigoroth|startcode=AG088|startname=The Garden of Eatin&#039;|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* Vital Spirit is the only variation of {{a|Limber}} that has been seen in the anime so far.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In other languages==&lt;br /&gt;
{{langtable|color={{status color}}|bordercolor={{status color dark}}&lt;br /&gt;
|zh_cmn=元氣 &#039;&#039;Yuánqì&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|nl=Vitale kracht&lt;br /&gt;
|fi=Elohenki&lt;br /&gt;
|fr=Esprit Vital&lt;br /&gt;
|de=Munterkeit&lt;br /&gt;
|it=Spiritovivo&lt;br /&gt;
|ko=의기양양 &#039;&#039;Yigiyang&#039;yang&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|pt=Espírito Vital&lt;br /&gt;
|es=Espíritu Vital{{tt|*|Gen VI onwards}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Espír. Vital{{tt|*|Gens III-V}}&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{AbilityVariations|Limber|Oblivious|Insomnia|Immunity|Own Tempo|Inner Focus|Magma Armor|Water Veil|Vital Spirit|color=Status|1color={{electric color dark}}|2color={{psychic color dark}}|3color={{status color dark}}|4color={{poison color dark}}|5color={{psychic color dark}}|6color={{fighting color dark}}|7color={{fire color dark}}|8color={{water color dark}}|9color={{status color dark}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Abilities that affect appearance of wild Pokémon]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Abilities that prevent non-volatile status conditions]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Abilities that can heal non-volatile status conditions]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Abilities that prevent volatile status conditions]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Abilities with field effects]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[de:Munterkeit]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[fr:Esprit Vital]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[it:Spiritovivo (abilità)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[ja:やるき]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[zh:元气（特性）]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dry_Skin_(Ability)&amp;diff=2456197</id>
		<title>Dry Skin (Ability)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dry_Skin_(Ability)&amp;diff=2456197"/>
		<updated>2016-06-10T06:42:57Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* In other languages */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{AbilityInfobox&lt;br /&gt;
|name=Dry Skin&lt;br /&gt;
|jpname=かんそうはだ&lt;br /&gt;
|jptrans=Dry Skin&lt;br /&gt;
|jptranslit=Kansō Hada&lt;br /&gt;
|colorscheme=water&lt;br /&gt;
|gen=4&lt;br /&gt;
|text4=Reduces HP if it is hot. Water restores HP.&lt;br /&gt;
|text5=Reduces HP if it is hot. Water restores HP.&lt;br /&gt;
|text6=Reduces HP if it&#039;s hot. Water restores HP.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Dry Skin&#039;&#039;&#039; (Japanese: &#039;&#039;&#039;かんそうはだ&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Dry Skin&#039;&#039;) is an [[Ability]] introduced in [[Generation IV]]. Seven {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} can have this Ability.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Effect==&lt;br /&gt;
===In battle===&lt;br /&gt;
During {{weather|harsh sunlight}}, a Pokémon with Dry Skin will lose ⅛ of its maximum HP at the end of each turn. During [[rain]], a Pokémon with Dry Skin will regain ⅛ of its maximum HP at the end of each turn.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{type|Fire}} attacks do 25% more damage to a Pokémon with Dry Skin.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When a Pokémon with Dry Skin is hit by a {{type|Water}} [[move]], its HP is restored by one quarter of its maximum HP, and the move will have no effect on that Pokémon (if a Pokémon with this Ability already has full HP, the Water-type move will do nothing). This effect will not activate if the Pokémon is {{cat|Protection moves|protected}} from the Water-type move.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If a Pokémon with Dry Skin is holding an {{DL|In-battle effect item|Absorb Bulb}} or {{DL|In-battle effect item|Luminous Moss}}, Dry Skin absorbs the Water-type move so the item&#039;s effect is not triggered.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Outside of battle===&lt;br /&gt;
Dry Skin has no effect outside of battle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Pokémon with Dry Skin==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/head|water}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|046|Paras|Bug|Grass|Effect Spore|Dry Skin|Damp}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|047|Parasect|Bug|Grass|Effect Spore|Dry Skin|Damp}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|124|Jynx|Ice|Psychic|Oblivious|Forewarn|Dry Skin}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|453|Croagunk|Poison|Fighting|Anticipation|Dry Skin|Poison Touch}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|454|Toxicroak|Poison|Fighting|Anticipation|Dry Skin|Poison Touch}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|694|Helioptile|Electric|Normal|Dry Skin|Sand Veil|Solar Power}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|695|Heliolisk|Electric|Normal|Dry Skin|Sand Veil|Solar Power}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/foot|water}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In other languages==&lt;br /&gt;
{{langtable|color={{water color}}|bordercolor={{water color dark}}&lt;br /&gt;
|zh_cmn=乾燥皮膚 (干燥皮肤) &#039;&#039;Gānzào Pífū&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|fr=Peau Sèche&lt;br /&gt;
|de=Trockenheit&lt;br /&gt;
|it=Pellearsa&lt;br /&gt;
|pt=Pele Seca&lt;br /&gt;
|es=Piel Seca&lt;br /&gt;
|ko=건조피부 &#039;&#039;Geonjo Pibu&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|pl=Sucha Skóra&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{AbilityVariations|1=Sand Veil|2=Swift Swim|3=Chlorophyll|4=Forecast|5=Dry Skin|6=Rain Dish|7=Snow Cloak|8=Hydration|9=Solar Power|10=Leaf Guard|11=Ice Body|12=Flower Gift|13=Sand Force|14=Sand Rush&lt;br /&gt;
|1color={{Ground color dark}}|2color={{Water color dark}}|3color={{Grass color dark}}|4color={{Normal color dark}}|5color={{Water color dark}}|6color={{Water color dark}}|7color={{Ice color dark}}|8color={{Water color dark}}|9color={{Fire color dark}}|10color={{Grass color dark}}|11color={{Ice color dark}}|12color={{Grass color dark}}|13color={{Ground color dark}}|14color={{Ground color dark}}|title={{cat|Abilities affected by weather conditions}}&lt;br /&gt;
|1a=Dry Skin|2a=Flash Fire|3a=Sap Sipper|4a=Lightningrod|5a=Motor Drive|6a=Storm Drain|7a=Volt Absorb|8a=Water Absorb|1acolor={{Grass color dark}}|2acolor={{Fire color dark}}|3acolor={{Grass color dark}}|4acolor={{Electric color dark}}|5acolor={{Electric color dark}}|6acolor={{Water color dark}}|7acolor={{Electric color dark}}|8acolor={{Water color dark}}|titlea={{cat|Abilities that alter damage taken}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Abilities with negative effects]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Abilities affected by weather conditions]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Abilities that alter damage taken]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Abilities which restore HP]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[de:Trockenheit]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[fr:Peau Sèche]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[it:Pellearsa (abilità)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[ja:かんそうはだ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[zh:干燥皮肤（特性）]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Forecast_(Ability)&amp;diff=2456196</id>
		<title>Forecast (Ability)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Forecast_(Ability)&amp;diff=2456196"/>
		<updated>2016-06-10T06:40:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* In other languages */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{AbilityInfobox&lt;br /&gt;
|name=Forecast&lt;br /&gt;
|jpname=てんきや&lt;br /&gt;
|jptrans=Temperamental&lt;br /&gt;
|jptranslit=Tenkiya&lt;br /&gt;
|colorscheme=Normal&lt;br /&gt;
|gen=3&lt;br /&gt;
|text3=Changes with the weather.&lt;br /&gt;
|text4=&amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;Castform&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt; transforms with the weather.&lt;br /&gt;
|text5=Castform transforms with the weather.&lt;br /&gt;
|text6=Castform transforms with the weather.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Forecast&#039;&#039;&#039; (Japanese: &#039;&#039;&#039;てんきや&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Temperamental&#039;&#039;) is an [[Ability]] introduced in [[Generation III]]. It is the [[Signature Ability|signature Ability]] of {{p|Castform}}.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Effect==&lt;br /&gt;
===In battle===&lt;br /&gt;
Depending on the [[weather]], Forecast will change {{p|Castform}}&#039;s form, which also changes its [[type]]. Castform changes as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
* During [[harsh sunlight]] or [[Harsh sunlight|extremely harsh sunlight]], it will become Sunny Form, which is {{type|Fire}}.&lt;br /&gt;
* During {{weather|hail}}, it will become Snowy Form, which is {{type|Ice}}.&lt;br /&gt;
* During [[rain]] or [[Rain|heavy rain]], it will become Rainy Form, which is {{type|Water}}.&lt;br /&gt;
* During a {{weather|sandstorm}}, {{weather|fog}}, a [[mysterious air current]], a [[shadowy aura]], or clear weather it will revert to its normal form, which is {{type|Normal}}.&lt;br /&gt;
** It will also revert to its normal form if a Pokémon on the field has {{a|Cloud Nine}} or {{a|Air Lock}}.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This Ability has no effect on Pokémon other than Castform.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Forecast does not change Castform&#039;s form until after {{m|Stealth Rock}} deals damage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Generation III and IV====&lt;br /&gt;
If Castform loses Forecast or Forecast is suppressed with {{m|Gastro Acid}}, it will be stuck in its current form. When it regains Forecast, it will change to the form matching the current weather, even if it is already in the correct form (which resets its type if it had changed due to an effect like {{a|Color Change}}).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Generation V onward====&lt;br /&gt;
If Castform loses Forecast or Forecast is suppressed with {{m|Gastro Acid}}, it will revert to its normal form and not be able to change form. If Castform regains Forecast, it will change form to match the current weather, unless it would be in its normal form in the current weather.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Outside of battle===&lt;br /&gt;
Forecast has no effect outside of battle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Pokémon with Forecast==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/head|Normal}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|351|Castform|Normal|Normal|Forecast|None|None}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|351S|Castform|Fire|Fire|Forecast|None|None|Sunny Form}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|351R|Castform|Water|Water|Forecast|None|None|Rainy Form}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|351H|Castform|Ice|Ice|Forecast|None|None|Snowy Form}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/foot|Normal}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In the anime==&lt;br /&gt;
{{moveanime|type=Normal|exp=yes|gen=The user&#039;s body glows and changes to an alternate form depending on the weather.|image1=Rainy Castform.png|image1p=Castform while raining|image2=Bart Castform Forecast Rain Dance.png|image2p=Castform in clear weather|image3=Sunny Castform.png|image3p=Castform in harsh sunlight|image4=Bart Castform Forecast.png|image4p=Castform activating Forecast}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=Normal|ms=351|pkmn=Castform|method=Castform&#039;s body glows white when the weather is calm and it transforms into its Normal form.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=Normal|user=Bart|user1=Bart&#039;s Castform|startcode=AG083|startname=Unfair Weather Friends|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=Normal|ms=351R|pkmn=Castform|method=Castform&#039;s body glows blue when it starts to rain and it transforms into its Rainy form.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=Normal|user=Bart|user1=Bart&#039;s Castform|startcode=AG083|startname=Unfair Weather Friends|notes=Water type}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=Normal|ms=351S|pkmn=Castform|method=Castform&#039;s body glows red when there isn&#039;t a cloud in the sky and it transforms into its Sunny form.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtm|type=Normal|user=Bart|user1=Bart&#039;s Castform|startcode=AG083|startname=Unfair Weather Friends|notes=Fire type}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In the manga==&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=Normal|exp=yes|gen=The user&#039;s head becomes surrounded by a transparent shape depending on the form it will take. It then transforms its body into an alternate form depending on the weather.|image1=Popo Forecast Sunny.png|image1p=Sunny form|image2=Popo Forecast Snowy.png|image2p=Snowy form|image3=Popo Forecast Rainy.png|image3p=Rainy form|image4=Popo.png|image4p=Castform}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=Normal|ms=351|pkmn=Castform|method=Castform&#039;s head becomes surrounded in a transparent shape depending on the form that it will take and it transforms its body depending on the weather.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=Normal|user=Ruby (Adventures)|user1=Ruby&#039;s Fofo|startcode=PS189|startname=Mowing Down Ludicolo|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* In [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]], while Castform transforms, a Trainer will play the animation used if one of their Pokémon faints.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In other languages==&lt;br /&gt;
{{langtable|color={{Normal color}}|bordercolor={{Normal color dark}}&lt;br /&gt;
|zh_cmn=天氣預報 &#039;&#039;Tiānqì Yùbào&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|fr=Météo&lt;br /&gt;
|de=Prognose&lt;br /&gt;
|it=Previsioni&lt;br /&gt;
|el=Πρόβλεψη &#039;&#039;Próvlepsi&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|es=Predicción&lt;br /&gt;
|pt=Previsão do Tempo&lt;br /&gt;
|ko=기분파 &#039;&#039;Gibunpa&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{AbilityVariations&lt;br /&gt;
|title={{cat|Abilities affected by weather conditions}}&lt;br /&gt;
|Color=normal&lt;br /&gt;
|1=Sand Veil|2=Swift Swim|3=Chlorophyll|4=Forecast|5=Dry Skin|6=Rain Dish|7=Snow Cloak|8=Hydration|9=Solar Power|10=Leaf Guard|11=Ice Body|12=Flower Gift|13=Sand Force|14=Sand Rush&lt;br /&gt;
|1color={{Ground color dark}}|2color={{Water color dark}}|3color={{Grass color dark}}|4color={{Normal color dark}}|5color={{Water color dark}}|6color={{Water color dark}}|7color={{Ice color dark}}|8color={{Water color dark}}|9color={{Grass color dark}}|10color={{Grass color dark}}|11color={{Ice color dark}}|12color={{Grass color dark}}|13color={{Ground color dark}}|14color={{Ground color dark}}&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Abilities affected by weather conditions]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[de:Prognose]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[fr:Météo]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[it:Previsioni (abilità)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[ja:てんきや]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[pl:Forecast (zdolność)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[zh:天气预报（特性）]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Chlorophyll_(Ability)&amp;diff=2456195</id>
		<title>Chlorophyll (Ability)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Chlorophyll_(Ability)&amp;diff=2456195"/>
		<updated>2016-06-10T06:39:45Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* In other languages */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{AbilityInfobox&lt;br /&gt;
|name=Chlorophyll&lt;br /&gt;
|jpname=ようりょくそ&lt;br /&gt;
|jptrans=Chlorophyll&lt;br /&gt;
|jptranslit=Yōryokuso&lt;br /&gt;
|colorscheme=grass&lt;br /&gt;
|gen=3&lt;br /&gt;
|text3=Raise &amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;Speed&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt; in sunshine.&lt;br /&gt;
|text4=Boosts the Pokémon&#039;s Speed in sunshine.&lt;br /&gt;
|text5=Boosts the Pokémon&#039;s Speed in sunshine.&lt;br /&gt;
|text6=Boosts the Pokémon&#039;s Speed stat in sunshine.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Chlorophyll&#039;&#039;&#039; (Japanese: &#039;&#039;&#039;ようりょくそ&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Chlorophyll&#039;&#039;) is an [[Ability]] introduced in [[Generation III]]. Thirty-five {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} can have this Ability, all of which are {{t|Grass}} types.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Effect==&lt;br /&gt;
===In battle===&lt;br /&gt;
During [[harsh sunlight]], the {{stat|Speed}} stat of Pokémon with this Ability is doubled.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Outside of battle===&lt;br /&gt;
Chlorophyll has no effect outside of battle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Pokémon Mystery Dungeon series===&lt;br /&gt;
In the {{g|Mystery Dungeon series}}, a Pokémon can use an attack twice in one turn, using only one PP, in sunshine.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Pokémon with Chlorophyll==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/head|Grass}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|001|Bulbasaur|Grass|Poison|Overgrow|None|Chlorophyll}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|002|Ivysaur|Grass|Poison|Overgrow|None|Chlorophyll}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|003|Venusaur|Grass|Poison|Overgrow|None|Chlorophyll}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|043|Oddish|Grass|Poison|Chlorophyll|None|Run Away}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|044|Gloom|Grass|Poison|Chlorophyll|None|Stench}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|045|Vileplume|Grass|Poison|Chlorophyll|None|Effect Spore}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|069|Bellsprout|Grass|Poison|Chlorophyll|None|Gluttony}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|070|Weepinbell|Grass|Poison|Chlorophyll|None|Gluttony}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|071|Victreebel|Grass|Poison|Chlorophyll|None|Gluttony}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|102|Exeggcute|Grass|Psychic|Chlorophyll|None|Harvest}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|103|Exeggutor|Grass|Psychic|Chlorophyll|None|Harvest}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|114|Tangela|Grass|Grass|Chlorophyll|Leaf Guard|Regenerator}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|182|Bellossom|Grass|Grass|Chlorophyll|None|Healer}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|187|Hoppip|Grass|Flying|Chlorophyll|Leaf Guard|Infiltrator}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|188|Skiploom|Grass|Flying|Chlorophyll|Leaf Guard|Infiltrator}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|189|Jumpluff|Grass|Flying|Chlorophyll|Leaf Guard|Infiltrator}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|191|Sunkern|Grass|Grass|Chlorophyll|Solar Power|Early Bird}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|192|Sunflora|Grass|Grass|Chlorophyll|Solar Power|Early Bird}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|273|Seedot|Grass|Grass|Chlorophyll|Early Bird|Pickpocket}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|274|Nuzleaf|Grass|Dark|Chlorophyll|Early Bird|Pickpocket}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|275|Shiftry|Grass|Dark|Chlorophyll|Early Bird|Pickpocket}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|357|Tropius|Grass|Flying|Chlorophyll|Solar Power|Harvest}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|420|Cherubi|Grass|Grass|Chlorophyll|None|None}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|465|Tangrowth|Grass|Grass|Chlorophyll|Leaf Guard|Regenerator}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|470|Leafeon|Grass|Grass|Leaf Guard|None|Chlorophyll}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|540|Sewaddle|Bug|Grass|Swarm|Chlorophyll|Overcoat}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|541|Swadloon|Bug|Grass|Leaf Guard|Chlorophyll|Overcoat}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|542|Leavanny|Bug|Grass|Swarm|Chlorophyll|Overcoat}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|546|Cottonee|Grass|Fairy|Prankster|Infiltrator|Chlorophyll}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|547|Whimsicott|Grass|Fairy|Prankster|Infiltrator|Chlorophyll}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|548|Petilil|Grass|Grass|Chlorophyll|Own Tempo|Leaf Guard}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|549|Lilligant|Grass|Grass|Chlorophyll|Own Tempo|Leaf Guard}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|556|Maractus|Grass|Grass|Water Absorb|Chlorophyll|Storm Drain}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|585|Deerling|Normal|Grass|Chlorophyll|Sap Sipper|Serene Grace}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|586|Sawsbuck|Normal|Grass|Chlorophyll|Sap Sipper|Serene Grace}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/foot|Grass}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In the anime==&lt;br /&gt;
{{moveanime|type=grass|exp=yes|gen=The user can move faster than usual when the sunlight is bright.|image1=Gardenia Cherubi Chlorophyll.png|image1p=Cherubi|image2=Ramos Jumpluff Sunny Day.png|image2p=Jumpluff}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=grass|ms=420|pkmn=Cherubi|method=When the sunlight is bright, Cherubi can move faster than usual.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Gardenia|user1=Gardenia&#039;s Cherubi|startcode=DP037|startname=The Grass Menagerie!|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=grass|ms=189|pkmn=Jumpluff|method=When the sunlight is bright, Jumpluff can move faster than usual.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Ramos|user1=Ramos&#039;s Jumpluff|startcode=XY058|startname=The Green, Green Grass Types of Home!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=grass|ms=070|pkmn=Weepinbell|method=When the sunlight is bright, Weepinbell can move faster than usual.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtm|type=grass|user=Ramos|user1=Ramos&#039;s Weepinbell|startcode=XY058|startname=The Green, Green Grass Types of Home!}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* Every Pokémon with this Ability is weak to {{type|Fire}} attacks, which have increased power under [[harsh sunlight]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In other languages==&lt;br /&gt;
{{langtable|color={{grass color}}|bordercolor={{grass color dark}}&lt;br /&gt;
|zh_cmn=葉綠素 / 叶绿素 &#039;&#039;Yèlǜsù&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|nl=Chlorofyl&lt;br /&gt;
|fi=Yhteytys ([[DP037]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Lehtivihreä ([[XY058]])&lt;br /&gt;
|fr=Chlorophylle{{tt|*|Gen VI onwards}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Chlorophyle{{tt|*|Gens III-V}}&lt;br /&gt;
|de=Chlorophyll&lt;br /&gt;
|id=Klorofil&lt;br /&gt;
|it=Clorofilla&lt;br /&gt;
|pt=Clorofila&lt;br /&gt;
|es=Clorofila&lt;br /&gt;
|ko=엽록소 &#039;&#039;Yeoprokso&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|ro=Clorofila&lt;br /&gt;
|pl=Chlorofil&lt;br /&gt;
|tr=Klorofil&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{&lt;br /&gt;
AbilityVariations|Chlorophyll|Swift Swim|Sand Rush|color=Grass|1color={{Grass color dark}}|2color={{Water color dark}}|3color={{Ground color dark}}&lt;br /&gt;
|titlea={{cat|Abilities affected by weather conditions}}|&lt;br /&gt;
|1a=Sand Veil|2a=Swift Swim|3a=Chlorophyll|4a=Forecast|5a=Dry Skin|6a=Rain Dish|7a=Snow Cloak|8a=Hydration|9a=Solar Power|10a=Leaf Guard|11a=Ice Body|12a=Flower Gift|13a=Sand Force|14a=Sand Rush&lt;br /&gt;
|1acolor={{Ground color dark}}|2acolor={{Water color dark}}|3acolor={{Grass color dark}}|4acolor={{Normal color dark}}|5acolor={{Water color dark}}|6acolor={{Water color dark}}|7acolor={{Ice color dark}}|8acolor={{Water color dark}}|9acolor={{Fire color dark}}|10acolor={{Grass color dark}}|11acolor={{Ice color dark}}|12acolor={{Grass color dark}}|13acolor={{Ground color dark}}|14acolor={{Ground color dark}}&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Abilities affected by weather conditions]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Stat increasing Abilities]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[de:Chlorophyll]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[fr:Chlorophylle]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[it:Clorofilla (abilità)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[ja:ようりょくそ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[pl:Chlorophyll (zdolność)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[zh:叶绿素（特性）]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Swift_Swim_(Ability)&amp;diff=2456194</id>
		<title>Swift Swim (Ability)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Swift_Swim_(Ability)&amp;diff=2456194"/>
		<updated>2016-06-10T06:39:21Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* In other languages */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{AbilityInfobox&lt;br /&gt;
|name=Swift Swim&lt;br /&gt;
|jpname=すいすい&lt;br /&gt;
|jptrans=Smooth Swim&lt;br /&gt;
|jptranslit=Suisui&lt;br /&gt;
|colorscheme=water&lt;br /&gt;
|gen=3&lt;br /&gt;
|text3=Raises &amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;Speed&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt; in rain.&lt;br /&gt;
|text4=Boosts the Pokémon&#039;s Speed in rain.&lt;br /&gt;
|text5=Boosts the Pokémon&#039;s Speed in rain.&lt;br /&gt;
|text6=Boosts the Pokémon&#039;s Speed stat in rain.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Swift Swim&#039;&#039;&#039; (Japanese: &#039;&#039;&#039;すいすい&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Smooth Swim&#039;&#039;) is an [[Ability]] introduced in [[Generation III]]. Thirty-nine {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} can have this Ability, making it the most prevalent Ability in the games.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Effect==&lt;br /&gt;
===In battle===&lt;br /&gt;
During [[rain]], the {{stat|Speed}} stat of Pokémon with this Ability is doubled.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Outside of battle===&lt;br /&gt;
Swift Swim has no effect outside of battle. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==={{g|Mystery Dungeon series}}===&lt;br /&gt;
Whenever the Pokémon uses a special move while it is raining, the move is used twice. No additional PP is used during the second usage. If the Pokémon has a speed bonus, only the first move will gain the benefit of Swift Swim. If the special move is part of a [[linked move]], all moves in the link are performed before they are done the second time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Pokémon with Swift Swim==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/head|Water}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|054|Psyduck|Water|Water|Damp|Cloud Nine|Swift Swim}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|055|Golduck|Water|Water|Damp|Cloud Nine|Swift Swim}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|060|Poliwag|Water|Water|Water Absorb|Damp|Swift Swim}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|061|Poliwhirl|Water|Water|Water Absorb|Damp|Swift Swim}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|062|Poliwrath|Water|Fighting|Water Absorb|Damp|Swift Swim}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|116|Horsea|Water|Water|Swift Swim|Sniper|Damp}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|118|Goldeen|Water|Water|Swift Swim|Water Veil|Lightning Rod}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|119|Seaking|Water|Water|Swift Swim|Water Veil|Lightning Rod}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|129|Magikarp|Water|Water|Swift Swim|None|Rattled}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|138|Omanyte|Rock|Water|Swift Swim|Shell Armor|Weak Armor}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|139|Omastar|Rock|Water|Swift Swim|Shell Armor|Weak Armor}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|140|Kabuto|Rock|Water|Swift Swim|Battle Armor|Weak Armor}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|141|Kabutops|Rock|Water|Swift Swim|Battle Armor|Weak Armor}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|211|Qwilfish|Water|Poison|Poison Point|Swift Swim|Intimidate}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|226|Mantine|Water|Flying|Swift Swim|Water Absorb|Water Veil}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|230|Kingdra|Water|Dragon|Swift Swim|Sniper|Damp}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|260M|Swampert|Water|Ground|Swift Swim|None|None|Mega Swampert}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|270|Lotad|Water|Grass|Swift Swim|Rain Dish|Own Tempo}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|271|Lombre|Water|Grass|Swift Swim|Rain Dish|Own Tempo}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|272|Ludicolo|Water|Grass|Swift Swim|Rain Dish|Own Tempo}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|283|Surskit|Bug|Water|Swift Swim|None|Rain Dish}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|347|Anorith|Rock|Bug|Battle Armor|None|Swift Swim}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|348|Armaldo|Rock|Bug|Battle Armor|None|Swift Swim}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|349|Feebas|Water|Water|Swift Swim|Oblivious|Adaptability}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|367|Huntail|Water|Water|Swift Swim|None|Water Veil}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|368|Gorebyss|Water|Water|Swift Swim|None|Hydration}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|369|Relicanth|Water|Rock|Swift Swim|Rock Head|Sturdy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|370|Luvdisc|Water|Water|Swift Swim|None|Hydration}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|418|Buizel|Water|Water|Swift Swim|None|Water Veil}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|419|Floatzel|Water|Water|Swift Swim|None|Water Veil}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|456|Finneon|Water|Water|Swift Swim|Storm Drain|Water Veil}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|457|Lumineon|Water|Water|Swift Swim|Storm Drain|Water Veil}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|458|Mantyke|Water|Flying|Swift Swim|Water Absorb|Water Veil}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|535|Tympole|Water|Water|Swift Swim|Hydration|Water Absorb}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|536|Palpitoad|Water|Ground|Swift Swim|Hydration|Water Absorb}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|537|Seismitoad|Water|Ground|Swift Swim|Poison Touch|Water Absorb}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|564|Tirtouga|Water|Rock|Solid Rock|Sturdy|Swift Swim}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|565|Carracosta|Water|Rock|Solid Rock|Sturdy|Swift Swim}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|614|Beartic|Ice|Ice|Snow Cloak|None|Swift Swim}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/foot|Water}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In the anime==&lt;br /&gt;
{{moveanime|type=water|exp=yes|gen=The user can move faster than usual when it is raining.|image1=Ash Buizel Swift Swim.png|image1p=Buizel|image2=Juan Luvdisc Swift Swim.png|image2p=Luvdisc|image3=Edmund Seismitoad Swift Swim.png|image3p=Seismitoad}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=370|pkmn=Luvdisc|method=While it is raining out, Luvdisc can move extremely fast. It can even speed around above the water while it is raining.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Juan|user1=Juan&#039;s Luvdisc|startcode=AG111|startname=Eight Ain&#039;t Enough|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=418|pkmn=Buizel|method=Buizel can move extremely fast while it is raining.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Ash&#039;s Buizel|startcode=DP068|startname=A Triple Fighting Chance!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=537|pkmn=Seismitoad|method=Seismitoad can move extremely fast while it is raining.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtm|type=water|user=Edmund|user1=Edmund&#039;s Seismitoad|startcode=BW070|startname=The Clubsplosion Begins!}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In the manga==&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Pokémon Battle Frontier manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=water|exp=yes|gen=The user moves twice as fast when hit by rain.|image1=Enta Feebas Swift Swim CBF.png|image1p=Feebas}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=349|pkmn=Feebas|method=Feebas moves twice as fast when it is raining.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtm|type=water|user=Enta (CBF)|user1=Enta&#039;s Feebas|startcode=CBF4|startname=Introducing the Frontier Brains!|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Anorith}}, {{p|Armaldo}}, and {{p|Beartic}} are the only Pokémon capable of having this ability that aren&#039;t part {{t|Water}}-type.&lt;br /&gt;
** Anorith and Armaldo are, however, in the {{egg2|Water 3}} egg group.&lt;br /&gt;
** In each case, Swift Swim is a [[Ability#Hidden Abilities|Hidden Ability]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In other languages==&lt;br /&gt;
{{langtable|color={{water color}}|bordercolor={{water color dark}}&lt;br /&gt;
|zh_cmn=輕快 &#039;&#039;Qīng​kuài​&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|nl=Snelzwem&lt;br /&gt;
|fi=Tyrskyuinti ([[Advanced Generation series|AG]])&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Pikauinti ([[Diamond &amp;amp; Pearl series|DP]])&lt;br /&gt;
|fr=Glissade&lt;br /&gt;
|de=Wassertempo&lt;br /&gt;
|id=Meluncur&lt;br /&gt;
|it=Nuotovelox&lt;br /&gt;
|ko=쓱쓱 &#039;&#039;Sseuksseuk&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|pl=Giętki Nurt&lt;br /&gt;
|pt=Nado Rápido&lt;br /&gt;
|es=Nado Rápido&lt;br /&gt;
|tr=Hızlı Yüzme&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{&lt;br /&gt;
AbilityVariations&lt;br /&gt;
|Chlorophyll|Swift Swim|Sand Rush|&lt;br /&gt;
|1color={{Grass color dark}}|2color={{Water color dark}}|3color={{Ground color dark}}|&lt;br /&gt;
|titlea={{cat|Abilities affected by weather conditions}}|&lt;br /&gt;
|1a=Sand Veil|2a=Swift Swim|3a=Chlorophyll|4a=Forecast|5a=Dry Skin|6a=Rain Dish|7a=Snow Cloak|8a=Hydration|9a=Solar Power|10a=Leaf Guard|11a=Ice Body|12a=Flower Gift|13a=Sand Force|14a=Sand Rush&lt;br /&gt;
|1acolor={{Ground color dark}}|2acolor={{Water color dark}}|3acolor={{Grass color dark}}|4acolor={{Normal color dark}}|5acolor={{Water color dark}}|6acolor={{Water color dark}}|7acolor={{Ice color dark}}|8acolor={{Water color dark}}|9acolor={{Fire color dark}}|10acolor={{Grass color dark}}|11acolor={{Ice color dark}}|12acolor={{Grass color dark}}|13acolor={{Ground color dark}}|14acolor={{Ground color dark}}&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Abilities affected by weather conditions]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Stat increasing Abilities]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[de:Wassertempo]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[fr:Glissade]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[it:Nuotovelox (abilità)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[ja:すいすい]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[pl:Swift Swim (Zdolność)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[zh:轻快（特性）]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Sand_Veil_(Ability)&amp;diff=2456193</id>
		<title>Sand Veil (Ability)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Sand_Veil_(Ability)&amp;diff=2456193"/>
		<updated>2016-06-10T06:37:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{AbilityInfobox&lt;br /&gt;
|name=Sand Veil&lt;br /&gt;
|jpname=すながくれ&lt;br /&gt;
|jptrans=Hidden in Sand&lt;br /&gt;
|jptranslit=Suna Gakure&lt;br /&gt;
|colorscheme=ground&lt;br /&gt;
|gen=3&lt;br /&gt;
|text3=Ups evasion in a sandstorm.&lt;br /&gt;
|text4=Boosts the Pokémon&#039;s evasion in a sandstorm.&lt;br /&gt;
|text5=Boosts the Pokémon&#039;s evasion in a sandstorm.&lt;br /&gt;
|text6=Boosts the Pokémon&#039;s evasion in a sandstorm.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Sand Veil&#039;&#039;&#039; (Japanese: &#039;&#039;&#039;すながくれ&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Hidden in Sand&#039;&#039;) is an [[Ability]] introduced in [[Generation III]]. Twenty {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} can have this Ability.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Effect==&lt;br /&gt;
===In battle===&lt;br /&gt;
====Generation III and IV====&lt;br /&gt;
During a {{weather|sandstorm}}, the evasion of a Pokémon with this Ability is increased by 20%. A Pokémon with this Ability will take no damage from the sandstorm if it otherwise would.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Generation V onward====&lt;br /&gt;
During a {{weather|sandstorm}}, the evasion of a Pokémon with this Ability is now increased by 25%.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Outside of battle===&lt;br /&gt;
From {{game|Emerald}} onwards, if a Pokémon with Sand Veil is leading the party in an area with a sandstorm, such as {{rt|228|Sinnoh}} in [[Sinnoh]], Sand Veil decreases the wild Pokémon encounter rate by 50%.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Pokémon with Sand Veil==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/head|Ground}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|027|Sandshrew|Ground|Ground|Sand Veil|None|Sand Rush}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|028|Sandslash|Ground|Ground|Sand Veil|None|Sand Rush}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|050|Diglett|Ground|Ground|Sand Veil|Arena Trap|Sand Force}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|051|Dugtrio|Ground|Ground|Sand Veil|Arena Trap|Sand Force}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|074|Geodude|Rock|Ground|Rock Head|Sturdy|Sand Veil}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|075|Graveler|Rock|Ground|Rock Head|Sturdy|Sand Veil}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|076|Golem|Rock|Ground|Rock Head|Sturdy|Sand Veil}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|207|Gligar|Ground|Flying|Hyper Cutter|Sand Veil|Immunity}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|231|Phanpy|Ground|Ground|Pickup|None|Sand Veil}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|232|Donphan|Ground|Ground|Sturdy|None|Sand Veil}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|246|Larvitar|Rock|Ground|Guts|None|Sand Veil}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|331|Cacnea|Grass|Grass|Sand Veil|None|Water Absorb}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|332|Cacturne|Grass|Dark|Sand Veil|None|Water Absorb}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|443|Gible|Dragon|Ground|Sand Veil|None|Rough Skin}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|444|Gabite|Dragon|Ground|Sand Veil|None|Rough Skin}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|445|Garchomp|Dragon|Ground|Sand Veil|None|Rough Skin}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|472|Gliscor|Ground|Flying|Hyper Cutter|Sand Veil|Poison Heal}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{ability/entry|618|Stunfisk|Ground|Electric|Static|Limber|Sand Veil}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|694|Helioptile|Electric|Normal|Dry Skin|Sand Veil|Solar Power}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|695|Heliolisk|Electric|Normal|Dry Skin|Sand Veil|Solar Power}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/foot|Ground}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* Prior to becoming an Ability, Sand Veil [[Sandslash (Vending S3)|appeared]] as a TCG {{TCG|Attack}}.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In other languages==&lt;br /&gt;
{{langtable|color={{ground color}}|bordercolor={{ground color dark}}&lt;br /&gt;
|zh_cmn=沙裡隱身 &#039;&#039;Shālǐ Yǐnshēn&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|fr=Voile Sable&lt;br /&gt;
|de=Sandschleier&lt;br /&gt;
|it=Sabbiavelo&lt;br /&gt;
|ko=모래숨기 &#039;&#039;Morae Sumgi&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|pt=Véu de Areia&lt;br /&gt;
|es=Velo Arena&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{&lt;br /&gt;
AbilityVariations&lt;br /&gt;
|color=Ground&lt;br /&gt;
|Sand Veil|Snow Cloak|&lt;br /&gt;
|1color={{Ground color dark}}|2color={{Ice color dark}}|&lt;br /&gt;
|titlea={{cat|Abilities affected by weather conditions}}|&lt;br /&gt;
|1a=Sand Veil|2a=Swift Swim|3a=Chlorophyll|4a=Forecast|5a=Dry Skin|6a=Rain Dish|7a=Snow Cloak|8a=Hydration|9a=Solar Power|10a=Leaf Guard|11a=Ice Body|12a=Flower Gift|13a=Sand Force|14a=Sand Rush&lt;br /&gt;
|1acolor={{Ground color dark}}|2acolor={{Water color dark}}|3acolor={{Grass color dark}}|4acolor={{Normal color dark}}|5acolor={{Water color dark}}|6acolor={{Water color dark}}|7acolor={{Ice color dark}}|8acolor={{Water color dark}}|9acolor={{Fire color dark}}|10acolor={{Grass color dark}}|11acolor={{Ice color dark}}|12acolor={{Grass color dark}}|13acolor={{Ground color dark}}|14acolor={{Ground color dark}}&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Abilities affected by weather conditions]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Stat increasing Abilities]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Abilities that affect appearance of wild Pokémon]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Abilities with field effects]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[de:Sandschleier]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[fr:Voile Sable]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[it:Sabbiavelo (abilità)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[ja:すながくれ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[zh:沙里隐身（特性）]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Solar_Power_(Ability)&amp;diff=2456192</id>
		<title>Solar Power (Ability)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Solar_Power_(Ability)&amp;diff=2456192"/>
		<updated>2016-06-10T06:35:24Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: I couldn&amp;#039;t find any word on whether there was an official convention for the colors used on ability pages. This one makes more sense this way.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{AbilityInfobox&lt;br /&gt;
|name=Solar Power&lt;br /&gt;
|jpname=サンパワー&lt;br /&gt;
|jptranslit=San Pawā&lt;br /&gt;
|jptrans=Sun Power&lt;br /&gt;
|colorscheme=Fire&lt;br /&gt;
|gen=4&lt;br /&gt;
|text4=Boosts Sp. Atk, but lowers HP in sunshine.&lt;br /&gt;
|text5=In sunshine, Sp. Atk is boosted but HP decreases.&lt;br /&gt;
|text6=Boosts the Sp. Atk stat in sunny weather, but HP decreases.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Solar Power&#039;&#039;&#039; (Japanese: &#039;&#039;&#039;サンパワー&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Sun Power&#039;&#039;) is an [[Ability]] introduced in [[Generation IV]]. Nine {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} can have this Ability.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Effect==&lt;br /&gt;
===In battle===&lt;br /&gt;
During {{weather|harsh sunlight}}, Solar Power increases the Pokémon&#039;s {{stat|Special Attack}} by 1.5×, but the Pokémon loses 1/8 of its maximum HP at the end of each turn.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Outside of battle===&lt;br /&gt;
Solar Power has no effect outside of battle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Pokémon with Solar Power==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/head|Fire}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|004|Charmander|Fire|Fire|Blaze|None|Solar Power}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|005|Charmeleon|Fire|Fire|Blaze|None|Solar Power}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|006|Charizard|Fire|Flying|Blaze|None|Solar Power}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|191|Sunkern|Grass|Grass|Chlorophyll|Solar Power|Early Bird}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|192|Sunflora|Grass|Grass|Chlorophyll|Solar Power|Early Bird}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|229M|Houndoom|Dark|Fire|Solar Power|None|None|Mega Houndoom}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|357|Tropius|Grass|Flying|Chlorophyll|Solar Power|Harvest}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|694|Helioptile|Electric|Normal|Dry Skin|Sand Veil|Solar Power}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|695|Heliolisk|Electric|Normal|Dry Skin|Sand Veil|Solar Power}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/foot|Fire}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In other languages==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Langtable|color={{fire color}}|bordercolor={{fire color dark}}&lt;br /&gt;
|zh_cmn=太陽能量 / 太阳能量 &#039;&#039;Tàiyáng Néngliàng&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|fr=Force Soleil&lt;br /&gt;
|de=Solarkraft&lt;br /&gt;
|it=Solarpotere&lt;br /&gt;
|ko=선파워 &#039;&#039;Sun Power&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|pt=Poder Solar&lt;br /&gt;
|es=Poder Solar&lt;br /&gt;
|tr=Güneş Gücü}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{AbilityVariations|1=Sand Veil|2=Swift Swim|3=Chlorophyll|4=Forecast|5=Dry Skin|6=Rain Dish|7=Snow Cloak|8=Hydration|9=Solar Power|10=Leaf Guard|11=Ice Body|12=Flower Gift|13=Sand Force|14=Sand Rush&lt;br /&gt;
|1color={{Ground color dark}}|2color={{Water color dark}}|3color={{Grass color dark}}|4color={{Normal color dark}}|5color={{Water color dark}}|6color={{Water color dark}}|7color={{Ice color dark}}|8color={{Water color dark}}|9color={{Fire color dark}}|10color={{Grass color dark}}|11color={{Ice color dark}}|12color={{Grass color dark}}|13color={{Ground color dark}}|14color={{Ground color dark}}|color=fire|title={{cat|Abilities affected by weather conditions}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Abilities affected by weather conditions]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Abilities with negative effects]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Stat increasing Abilities]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[de:Solarkraft]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[fr:Force Soleil]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[it:Solarpotere (abilità)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[ja:サンパワー]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[zh:太阳能量（特性）]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Hydration_(Ability)&amp;diff=2456191</id>
		<title>Hydration (Ability)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Hydration_(Ability)&amp;diff=2456191"/>
		<updated>2016-06-10T06:30:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: Changed the colors of abilities in the bottom template to reflect the color used on each ability&amp;#039;s page.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{AbilityInfobox&lt;br /&gt;
|name=Hydration&lt;br /&gt;
|jpname=うるおいボディ&lt;br /&gt;
|jptranslit=Uruoi Bodi&lt;br /&gt;
|jptrans=Wet Body&lt;br /&gt;
|colorscheme=water&lt;br /&gt;
|gen=4&lt;br /&gt;
|text4=Heals status problems if it is raining.&lt;br /&gt;
|text5=Heals status problems if it is raining.&lt;br /&gt;
|text6=Heals status conditions if it&#039;s raining.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Hydration&#039;&#039;&#039; (Japanese: &#039;&#039;&#039;うるおいボディ&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Moist Body&#039;&#039;) is an [[Ability]] introduced in [[Generation IV]]. Twenty-one {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} can have this Ability.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Effect==&lt;br /&gt;
===In battle===&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of each turn, if it is [[rain]]ing, Hydration will cure the Pokémon of any [[Status condition#Non-volatile status|non-volatile status condition]]. If Hydration cures a Pokémon of {{status|burn}} or {{status|poison}}, it will do so before any burn or poison damage is dealt on that turn.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Outside of battle===&lt;br /&gt;
Hydration has no effect outside of battle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Pokémon with Hydration==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/head|Water}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|086|Seel|Water|Water|Thick Fat|Hydration|Ice Body}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|087|Dewgong|Water|Ice|Thick Fat|Hydration|Ice Body}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|131|Lapras|Water|Ice|Water Absorb|Shell Armor|Hydration}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|134|Vaporeon|Water|Water|Water Absorb|None|Hydration}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|238|Smoochum|Ice|Psychic|Oblivious|Forewarn|Hydration}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|339|Barboach|Water|Ground|Oblivious|Anticipation|Hydration}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|340|Whiscash|Water|Ground|Oblivious|Anticipation|Hydration}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|368|Gorebyss|Water|Water|Swift Swim|None|Hydration}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|370|Luvdisc|Water|Water|Swift Swim|None|Hydration}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|489|Phione|Water|Water|Hydration|None|None}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|490|Manaphy|Water|Water|Hydration|None|None}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|535|Tympole|Water|Water|Swift Swim|Hydration|Water Absorb}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|536|Palpitoad|Water|Ground|Swift Swim|Hydration|Water Absorb}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|580|Ducklett|Water|Flying|Keen Eye|Big Pecks|Hydration}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|581|Swanna|Water|Flying|Keen Eye|Big Pecks|Hydration}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|594|Alomomola|Water|Water|Hydration|Healer|Regenerator}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|616|Shelmet|Bug|Bug|Hydration|Shell Armor|Overcoat}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|617|Accelgor|Bug|Bug|Hydration|Sticky Hold|Unburden}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|704|Goomy|Dragon|Dragon|Sap Sipper|Hydration|Gooey}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|705|Sliggoo|Dragon|Dragon|Sap Sipper|Hydration|Gooey}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|706|Goodra|Dragon|Dragon|Sap Sipper|Hydration|Gooey}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/foot|Water}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In the anime==&lt;br /&gt;
{{moveanime|type=water|exp=no|gen=The user&#039;s status conditions are healed when it&#039;s raining.|image1=Ash Goodra Hydration.png|image1p=Goodra}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=706|pkmn=Goodra|method=When it&#039;s raining, Goodra&#039;s status conditions are healed, making it healthy and giving it energy.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtm|type=water|user=Ash&#039;s Goodra|startcode=XY067|startname=The Moment of Lumiose Truth!|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In other languages==&lt;br /&gt;
{{langtable|color={{water color}}|bordercolor={{water color dark}}&lt;br /&gt;
|zh_cmn=濕潤身體 / 湿润身体 &#039;&#039;Shīrùn Shēntǐ&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|nl=Hydratatie&lt;br /&gt;
|fi=Hydraatio&lt;br /&gt;
|fr=Hydratation&lt;br /&gt;
|de=Hydration&lt;br /&gt;
|it=Idratazione&lt;br /&gt;
|pt=Hidratação&lt;br /&gt;
|es=Hidratación&lt;br /&gt;
|ko=촉촉바디 &#039;&#039;Chokchok Body&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|pl=Nawodnienie&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{&lt;br /&gt;
AbilityVariations&lt;br /&gt;
|title={{cat|Abilities affected by weather conditions}}&lt;br /&gt;
|color=Water&lt;br /&gt;
|1=Sand Veil|2=Swift Swim|3=Chlorophyll|4=Forecast|5=Dry Skin|6=Rain Dish|7=Snow Cloak|8=Hydration|9=Solar Power|10=Leaf Guard|11=Ice Body|12=Flower Gift|13=Sand Force|14=Sand Rush&lt;br /&gt;
|1color={{Ground color dark}}|2color={{Water color dark}}|3color={{Grass color dark}}|4color={{Normal color dark}}|5color={{Water color dark}}|6color={{Water color dark}}|7color={{Ice color dark}}|8color={{Water color dark}}|9color={{Grass color dark}}|10color={{Grass color dark}}|11color={{Ice color dark}}|12color={{Grass color dark}}|13color={{Ground color dark}}|14color={{Ground color dark}}&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Abilities affected by weather conditions]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Abilities that can heal non-volatile status conditions]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Abilities that activate at the end of the turn]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[de:Hydration]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[fr:Hydratation]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[it:Idratazione (abilità)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[ja:うるおいボディ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[zh:湿润身体（特性）]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Move_variations/Archive_1&amp;diff=2456186</id>
		<title>Talk:Move variations/Archive 1</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Move_variations/Archive_1&amp;diff=2456186"/>
		<updated>2016-06-10T06:20:55Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Outdated Template */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== Template? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This page was an excellent idea, but I wonder if there&#039;s a way to indicate in each move&#039;s article when it belongs to one of these &amp;quot;archetypes&amp;quot;. --[[User:Johans|Johans Nidorino]] 21:10, 19 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I suggested it but it was forgotten later on; and unfortunately, I don&#039;t know how to make templates. -([[User:Llxwarbirdxll|Llxwarbirdxll]] 02:35, 29 May 2007 (UTC))&lt;br /&gt;
:Template namespace. I&#039;ll whip one up. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;E&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 02:53, 29 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Maybe this is not the right place to suggest, but take a look at the template (Flamethrower as an example):&lt;br /&gt;
{| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; class=&amp;quot;toccolours&amp;quot; cellspacing=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;border: 3px solid #88a; border-radius:20px; -moz-border-radius:20px;&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background: #ccf; border: border-radius:20px; -moz-border-radius:20px; padding: 2px 15px;&amp;quot; | [[Move variations|Variations]] of the move {{m|Flamethrower}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;font-size:90%;&amp;quot; align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| {{ic|Special}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{mcolor|Flamethrower|{{fire color}}}} | {{mcolor|Ice Beam|{{ice color dark}}}} | {{mcolor|Sludge Wave|{{poison color dark}}}} | {{mcolor|Thunderbolt|{{electric color dark}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
::Flamethrower mentioned twice, while there is no actual link to &#039;&#039;Variations of Flamethrower&#039;&#039;. I believe it will be better this way:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; class=&amp;quot;toccolours&amp;quot; cellspacing=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;border: 3px solid #88a; border-radius:20px; -moz-border-radius:20px;&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background: #ccf; border: border-radius:20px; -moz-border-radius:20px; padding: 2px 15px;&amp;quot; | [[Move_variations#Variations_of_Flamethrower|Variations of the move Flamethrower]]:&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;font-size:90%;&amp;quot; align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| {{ic|Special}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{mcolor|Flamethrower|{{fire color}}}} | {{mcolor|Ice Beam|{{ice color dark}}}} | {{mcolor|Sludge Wave|{{poison color dark}}}} | {{mcolor|Thunderbolt|{{electric color dark}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
::--[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 11:09, 10 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I agree. It does make more sense that way. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 11:12, 10 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== New Variation ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There neeeds to be a Move Variation for the Following moves:&lt;br /&gt;
* {{m|Psybeam}}&lt;br /&gt;
* {{m|BubbleBeam}}&lt;br /&gt;
* {{m|Aurora Beam}}&lt;br /&gt;
* {{m|Sludge}}&lt;br /&gt;
* {{m|Spark}}&lt;br /&gt;
I have checked them all out and they each have:&lt;br /&gt;
* Power: 65&lt;br /&gt;
* Accuracy: 100%&lt;br /&gt;
* PP: 20 &lt;br /&gt;
P.S. I don&#039;t know how to do this myself so really I&#039;m asking for somebody to do this for me!&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 16:53, 13 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Actually, I&#039;m not sure if this should be counted as they each have a different added effect, either a [[status ailment]] or a [[stat]] change. Somebody gie me their:view...[[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 20:32, 16 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe keep the status-changing ones together, and keep the stat-changing ones together, but keep them separate. That means {{m|Psybeam}}, {{m|Sludge}}, and {{m|Spark}} go together, and {{m|BubbleBeam}} and {{m|Aurora Beam}} go together.&lt;br /&gt;
:And don&#039;t forget to use the {{template|m}} template for moves. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;E&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:22, 17 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
By the way, I think you&#039;ve got the wrong idea. I&#039;m not sure on how to create the move variation. I only realised they were similar... [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 15:34, 18 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== &amp;quot;Or&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is &amp;quot;10 or 15&amp;quot; valid [[Move variations#Variations of Shadow Ball|here]]?  I&#039;d say the use of every possible move variation no matter the amount of PPs it has would require a redefinition.  BTW, {{m|Ice Beam}} and {{m|Thunder}} don&#039;t belong in the tables they&#039;ve been introduced in if following the original criterion. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 05:04, 22 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry, I put those there. I&#039;ll have them removed. [[User:Llxwarbirdxll|Llxwarbirdxll]] 08:20, 28 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:LOL, now somebody else did the same with variations of Slash, Waterfall, and Shadow Ball :P --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:08, 7 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
People are no longer respecting the &amp;quot;PPs&amp;quot; part of the definition.  With &amp;quot;Variations of Flamethrower&amp;quot; the article mentions neither 15 nor 10 now.  If this is going to continue, maybe Bulbapedia&#039;s definition on &amp;quot;move variations&amp;quot; should no longer include PPs, which seems to be the least important of the three columns. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 18:35, 5 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Seismic Toss and Night Shade? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Those belong on the list, right?&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 20:10, 15 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Doesn&#039;t {{m|Night Shade}} do somewhere from 1 to 1.5x the level? I know {{m|Seismic Toss}} does the level. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;E&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 23:07, 15 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::No, Psywave does from 0.5 to 1.5x the level. But Night Shade always does damage equal to the level. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Still, they don&#039;t have the same amout of default total PPs. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 01:53, 16 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::They&#039;re stretching it nowadays though. Hmm...{{m|Zap Cannon}} and {{m|DynamicPunch}}... [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D5AA00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C0C0C0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 22:11, 19 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Well, I&#039;m sure {{m|Stone Edge}} and {{m|Cross Chop}} are variations. [[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 07:00, 24 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Definitely ^_^ --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:46, 24 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Stub?==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it Still a stub?--[[User:Torchic-ken|Torchic-ken]] 2:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, there&#039;s a few missing bits. [[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 00:10, 6 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mean Look/Block/Spider Web? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I noticed there isn&#039;t a section for these three moves, and while Block and Mean Look fit a &amp;quot;5 PP, Prevents foe from escaping&amp;quot; description, Spider Web only has one thing setting them apart and that&#039;s the PP issue. Should I add it anyway? [[User:TinaTheKirlia|TinaTheKirlia]] 01:47, 7 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Add only Mean Look and Block.  That&#039;s what has been done in these cases to agree with the current definition of &amp;quot;move archetypes&amp;quot;. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 08:01, 7 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Counter and Mirror Coat? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m really surprised no one did this - they both have 10PP, varying power, 100% accuracy and they both go last and counter the foe&#039;s attack at two times the power. I was trying to find a good way to summarize it though - how&#039;s this? &amp;quot;Goes last and counters the move used by the foe at twice the power&amp;quot;. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E75480;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Tina&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E75480;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;The&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E75480;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Kirlia&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] ♥ 21:23, 6 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:That works. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TTE&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 23:41, 6 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Softboiled and Milk Drink ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Even though they&#039;re listed under variations of Recover.. they both can do something Recover can not -- heal other Pokémon&#039;s HP outside of battle. I think this deserves a mention. :P [[User:Tina|Tina]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:58, 29 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Contests? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it would be incredibly useful to have a version of this page for contests, since many of the moves do the exact same things.&lt;br /&gt;
Thoughts...? [[User:Maki|Maki]] 13:47, 19 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree. However it&#039;d have to be set up differently. It&#039;d be like... effect, cute moves, beauty moves, smart moves, tough moves, cool moves. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]Fire echy&#039;&#039;&#039; 20:49, 21 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Blizzard ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Are Magma Storm and Focus Blast &#039;&#039;really&#039;&#039; variations of Blizzard? Neither inflict a status ailment and Magma Storm sounds more like a multi-turn move. The only similarities seem to be 120 power&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, I think Thunder should be added as a variation. It has 10 PP, not 5, but it causes a status ailment, has 120 power and 70 accuracy. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:28, 21 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thunder and Blizzard also have their accuracy at 100% when used during a specific weather condition. Magma Storm seems most like Outrage, though that goes 2-3 turns, and Focus Blast is just... its own thing. Not &#039;&#039;every&#039;&#039; move has a counterpart, that&#039;s what people need to remember. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]Fire echy&#039;&#039;&#039; 20:38, 21 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::That&#039;s what I mean, a lot of the moves I mentioned, as well as Hydro Pump, Seed Flare and Fire Blast are all &#039;&#039;similar&#039;&#039;, but variations of each other? I&#039;d say they&#039;re similar moves, but not direct variations. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:40, 21 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yes. Variations: Do the same thing. Similarity: have the same PP, power, or accuracy but don&#039;t do the same thing. Outrage and Thrash are variations, despite Outrage now being 120 power. Focus Blast and Blizzard are not because all they share is accuracy and power. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]Fire echy&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:21, 21 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::So, should we move some of the moves I mentioned around? That&#039;s what I&#039;ve been suggesting. I think Magma Storm should be grouped with Outrage and Thrash, and Blizzard, Thunder and Gunk Shot should be in a group. Maybe Seed Flare and Focus Blast too, their effects are identical except for accuracy. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 00:39, 22 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Order==&lt;br /&gt;
Why aren&#039;t they in alphabetical order? {{u|MathijsP}}&lt;br /&gt;
:Beats me. Last time I organized them I put them in order by damage. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 01:59, 20 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Dragon Claw, X-Scissor, Seed Bomb==&lt;br /&gt;
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Aren&#039;t these all variations? They all do 80 damage, have 15 PP, and no added effect. Can I add them? --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 18:25, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You forget to mention the accuracy, but it happens that it&#039;s the same!  So yeah, they&#039;re move variations. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 18:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Great. I guess I&#039;ll add them now. --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 18:25, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, I don&#039;t think I know how to do the template. Can someone else do that? --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 18:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Nevermind, I got them. :) --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 21:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ice Beam?==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ice Beam has only 10 PP, yet it&#039;s claimed to be a variation of Flamethrower and Thunderbolt, which have 15 PP. Can I remove that? --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 21:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Ice Beam is the most useful of all three, but is still the same. Same power, accuracy and rate to inflict a status problem. Part of Ice Beam may be the fact frozen Pokémon are helpless. [[User:Gywall|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF8800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Gyw&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFAE00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;all&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:15, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ice Beam is one of the more visible move variations in normal gameplay. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:21, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ah. I see. OK. --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 00:46, 13 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Air Slash? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wonder if, shouldnt Air Slash be in the &amp;quot;variations of Slash&amp;quot; since it IS a Slash move after all? o: what do you people think? I havn&#039;t really looked up the PP, accuracy and power, but its very similar to Night Slash and Slash. :c--[[User:Angela-Samshi|Angela-Samshi]] 17:50, 23 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Slash and Night Slash have high critical-hit ratios, Air Slash may cause the opponent to flinch.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;midnightblue&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;$aturn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;¥oshi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;maroon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE VOICES&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:54, 23 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ahh, ok thanks. --[[User:Angela-Samshi|Angela-Samshi]] 18:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pound &amp;lt;-&amp;gt; Gust? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Gust isn&#039;t a variation of Pound, is it? - [[User:FireHazard|Hazardous FIRE!]] 00:08, 5 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes it is. 35 PP, 40 power, 100% accuracy&amp;amp;ndash;yup, variation. --[[user:Baby G|Baby G]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Arm Thrust ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I read that the accuracy of Arm Thrust was 100 percent, but it was under the variations of Barrage, saying that its accuracy was 85 percent.  Is its accuracy 85 or 100, cuz I don&#039;t wanna do an edit with wrong info.---[[User:Hitmonchan90|Hitmonchan90]] 23:07, 23 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bulk Up and Calm Mind?==&lt;br /&gt;
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They both have 20 PP, and raise Attack and Defense/Special Attack and Special Defense one stage, respectively. Variants? All signs point to yes. [[User:Master Lucario|Master Lucario]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Yep, variations. Added. --[[user:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF4500;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Baby G]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[user talk:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D1E231;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk to me]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B87333;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;see my edits]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:30, 5 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reorganised ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the moves were looking kinda messy, since the order was somewhat random, I went and moved the sections around to order it A-Z. Exceptions being Elemental X and the OHKO moves as they are listed differently. [[User:Gywall|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF8800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Gyw&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFAE00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;all&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I believe the order was by Base Power of the attacks. [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 13:29, 23 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sections for both {{m|Tail Glow}} AND {{m|Agility}}? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve noticed that there are two sections that both share similar attributes, both sections detail moves that have 20 PP but increase a stat two stages, however, One details just Special attack raisers while the other details the other ones.&lt;br /&gt;
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Should there be two or should they be put together? [[User:PDL|PDL]] 00:22, 23 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was thinking the same thing, but then I found out that all the listed variations of Agility (including Agility itself) have &#039;&#039;30&#039;&#039; PP, and that Tail Glow and {{m|Nasty Plot}} have &#039;&#039;20&#039;&#039; PP. --[[user:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Cho&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[user talk:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;col&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[special:contributions/chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ate&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:23, 23 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Agility has 30 PP.Otherwise, I would say yes--[[User:DCM|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF1111&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DCM&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#DAA520&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#C0C0C0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Contributions&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;))]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I just noticed that now as well ^^; [[User:PDL|PDL]] 00:35, 23 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Crabhammer ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both Crabhammer and Blaze Kick &#039;&#039;used&#039;&#039; to be signature moves. Should this be noted? --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 21:43, 25 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t think it should. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[user:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Cho&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[user talk:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;col&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[special:contributions/chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ate&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:47, 25 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Lock-On/Mind Reader ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How about them? [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D5AA00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C0C0C0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 23:19, 18 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I remember them having the exactly same effect, so if my memory serves me right, they could be added. &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #3FFF00; font-weight: bold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;UltimateSephiroth&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;(&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #003FFF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:UltimateSephiroth|user]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|contrib]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:29, 18 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::How about {{m|Whirlwind}} and {{m|Roar}}? [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D5AA00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C0C0C0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 04:05, 14 December 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== {{m|Spikes}} / {{m|Toxic Spikes}} ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Should these be parterned up?--[[User:RexRacer|&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E7CE6B&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rex&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#42528C&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Racer&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;]] [[User talk:RexRacer|&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF5A00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;-talk&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;]] 16:26, 23 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Don&#039;t forget about {{m|Stealth Rock}}, too. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[user:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Cho&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[user talk:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;col&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[special:contributions/chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ate&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:28, 23 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== This page needs work ==&lt;br /&gt;
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First of all, should PP be accounted for or not? Right now, some do and some don&#039;t. I don&#039;t really care which one we go with, so long as it&#039;s consistent.&lt;br /&gt;
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Second, effects are not being grouped together consistently either. Example: Spark has a 30% chance of inducing Paralyze. Psybeam has a 10% chance of inducing Confusion. 30 != 10. Another example: Flamethrower has a 10% chance of inducing Burn. Surf has 0% chance of inducing anything at all, and has a different target range on top of that. Also, the diffence between &amp;quot;Acid Armor variations&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Amnesia variations&amp;quot;? Ignoring the PP difference (the Acid Armor variations already do this anyway), who really cares if they raise Special stats or not? You could just as easily group them by Defense or Attack stats. On the other hand, I say just go with &amp;quot;raises a stat by two stages&amp;quot; and leave it at that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Third, I do not think &amp;quot;non-[http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/volatile volatile]&amp;quot; means what you think it means. Why not just put &amp;quot;non-damaging effect&amp;quot; or something else a bit more clear and grammatically correct? [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I never thought PP should be accounted for. A lot of the moves might have the same PP but if all the important other stuff is the same, the moves are pretty much variations! [[User:Toastypk|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#BB0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;~Toastypk&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#770077&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Loom.&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;]] 05:06, 12 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thief and Covet will never be counted as variations if taking PP into account. --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 15:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:And that&#039;s the sad thing, they&#039;re pretty much the same kind of item-stealing damaging move. PP is a moot point! [[User:Toastypk|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#BB0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;~Toastypk&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#770077&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Loom.&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;]] 00:22, 13 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If there&#039;s only one thing different about a move variation, it can still be considered a variation. For example, {{m|Surf}} is one of the {{m|Flamethrower}} variations, because it has the same power, PP, and accuracy. The only thing different is the effect. [[User:Chocolate|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;6D351A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Chocolate&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:Chocolate|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;6D351A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Chat with Me&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 00:44, 13 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Actually, you could argue that Surf is a variation of Earthquake, since they have the same range and the same effect (none). Surf has more PP and less power, but it also has two things different from Flamethrower: range and effect. See? You can&#039;t just go &amp;quot;Oh they&#039;re close ENOUGH&amp;quot;, you have to pick your criteria and stick with it. Either effect counts or it doesn&#039;t count. Either range counts or it doesn&#039;t count. Either PP counts or it doesn&#039;t count. If you start flubbing things, that&#039;s only going to make things more complicated down the line. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 03:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Earthquake has the anti-{{m|Dig}} effect. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 02:55, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Good point, that&#039;s another thing they have in common, since Surf can hit during Dive too. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 03:15, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I don&#039;t think there needs to be a set of rigid rules for move variations.  By definition, variation implies differing conditions, character, and degree.  That said, I do think that a move variations should have identical or &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; similar effects.  PP and base power are relatively unimportant to me, when two moves have unique identical effects.  Consider Bind, Fire Spin, and Whirlpool: they are all multi-turn attacks that trap their foe.  They work exactly the same, and have relatively unique effects (only a handful of moves work like this).  However, Bulbapedia currently only considers Fire Spin and Whirlpool as &amp;quot;variations&amp;quot;.&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;mdash;&amp;amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 03:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I think that trapping should have its own page. It&#039;s not as if the creators sat around and thought, &amp;quot;Hey, wouldn&#039;t it be cool to have a clone of this move for that element?&amp;quot; I think the process was more like, &amp;quot;Hey, why not have this as a mechanic?&amp;quot; --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 05:12, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Minor problem with that though. Ember, Flamethrower and Fire Blast (and probably others but those are the big ones) all have a 10% chance of causing burn. Moreover, they&#039;re all Fire attacks. If we go solely by effect, then that makes them variations of each other. So then we have moves that are multiple variations in one. Is that really ok? I mean, I can see it going either way...&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::One possibility is to split it into two things, where there are moves that are strictly exact copies of each other minus type and specific effect (not % chance of effect though, that has to say the same), and then other moves that just do the same thing but are not exact copies. Like, if I want to look for moves that cause Burn, there could be a category that I could go to and look there, and likewise for moves that cause trapping, or moves that hit everyone on the field. Does that sound reasonable? [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 01:14, 15 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::I&#039;m not talking about secondary effects like 10% of burn or confusion.  I agree that there should be a [[list of moves that burn]] (not a category, unfortunately), but I don&#039;t think they should be considered variations.  In my mind, examples of move variations are moves that have some unique game mechanic, such as {{m|Wrap|multi-turn}} {{m|Magma Storm|trapping}} {{m|Sand Tomb|moves}}, {{m|Fly|moves with}} {{m|Dig|an initial}} {{m|Shadow Force|invulnerable}} {{m|Dive|turn}}, {{m|Block|moves that}} {{m|Spider Web|prevent}} {{m|Mean Look|escape}}, or {{m|Protect|moves that can negate}} {{m|Detect|all negative effects}}&amp;amp;mdash;Moves that work so similarly that there are, for example, abilities that negate the set of them or moves that counter-act a set of them.  These should be considered move variations.&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;mdash;&amp;amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 01:33, 15 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve always considered anything that does not cause damage on an otherwise damaging move to be a secondary effect so I think we are going to differ in thought there, unfortunately. Example: Razor Wind requires charging, has a high crit rate and deals damage, so the charging and high crit rate are both secondary effects. Screech causes only Defense down, so Defense down is the primary effect.&lt;br /&gt;
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Taking each thing in turn, I don&#039;t think that just because Wrap and Magma Storm both cause multi-turn trapping is enough for them to be considered variations. They ought to have a page specifying this, but this does not make them variations, in the same way as Ember and Flamethrower. Ditto with with the semi-invulnerable moves. They are different enough (note which moves can hit which during the invulnerable turn, not to mention Power) to warrant an obviously acknowledged &#039;&#039;similarity&#039;&#039; but not actual variations.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for your last two examples, those moves DO essentially do the exact same thing in every way, with the exception of PP, so I think, if we decide to exclude PP from the criteria (which I am fairly convinced we ought to do by now), then yes, I would consider those move variations.&lt;br /&gt;
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(Somewhat off-topic, why not a category instead of a page? Then there would be links from the moves pages themselves, so they can actually be found... The Pokédex has tons of categories, I&#039;ve noticed...) [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 02:14, 15 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Also, {{m|Mud-Slap}} and {{m|Sand-Attack}} are both Ground moves with a 100% chance of lowering Accuracy, and this can be prevented by abilities such as {{a|Keen Eye}}, but they&#039;re still clearly not variations of each other, right? (Asking because I consider Wrap and Bind and the like to be moves with 100% chance of causing trapping) [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 02:24, 15 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Why aren&#039;t Wrap and Magma Storm variations?  They have the same primary effects (inflict damage over several turns at the end of each turn) and secondary effects (trap target during those turns).  (Though there&#039;s no official source ordering those as primary and secondary; they could just as easily be reversed.)  I realize that Ember and Flamethrower also have the same primary and secondary effects, but another issue I pointed out above is &#039;&#039;unique game-mechanics&#039;&#039;.  There are a hundred moves that have the same primary effect as Ember and Flamethrower (inflict damage) and very similar secondary effects (10% of a major status ailment).  However, there are only 5 moves that work like Wrap and Magma Storm.  I think that makes them remarkable enough to be noted as move variations.&lt;br /&gt;
::Since the definition of variation means details can vary.  That means we could consider numerous damaging moves to be variations of each other.  But I don&#039;t think it&#039;s notable if they don&#039;t have something that sets them apart from other moves.&lt;br /&gt;
::(As for the category thing, I don&#039;t know for sure, but the tons of categories issue might be the reason they didn&#039;t want even more categories for each detail.)&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;mdash;&amp;amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 02:39, 15 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It seems to me like what you want would be better expressed in a different page, like &amp;quot;Moves that cause the same unique effects&amp;quot; ...Okay, &amp;quot;same unique&amp;quot; is a bit oxymoronic, but you know what I mean. ^^;&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The reason I chose Mud-Slap and Sand-Attack as examples is because they ARE unique, in that Accuracy is not a standard stat, and there are only 5 moves that lower accuracy (and none that raise it, I think): Mud-Slap, Sand-Attack, {{m|Flash}}, {{m|Mirror Shot}}, and {{m|Muddy Water}}, but these are clearly not similar in any other way but that. (Asides from Flash and Sand-Attack, I would consider those variations of the other, with Gen IV&#039;s de-nerfing of Flash.) This page seems to have been created to illustrate which moves have only minor differences, with Power, Accuracy and % effect and PP cited specifically as things that must be the same. No matter which way you cut it, the only thing Wrap and Magma Storm have in common is their secondary multi-turn trapping effect, and I consider multi-turn trapping damage to be a single secondary effect (You are never going to have one of those moves inflict one without the other). Primary effect defaults to damage except for moves that do not ever deal damage. The game even categorizes them as Physical [[Image:PhysicalIC.gif]] and Special [[Image:SpecialIC.gif]], not Status [[Image:StatusIC.gif]]. You can cite their uniqueness, but there are only so many moves that do unique, specific things, like Burn, or charge, or high-crit, but then you&#039;ll end up with almost every move out there having at least one if not multiple variations. If you want to get really unique, {{m|Flame Wheel}} and {{m|Sacred Fire}} are the only moves that can thaw out their user. That makes them variations according to your definition, but they have nothing in common according to the definition already defined on this page. I think this all does deserve to be noted somewhere, but I don&#039;t think this is the right place, is what I&#039;m trying to say. ._.; [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:06, 15 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I am aware that calling certain moves variations of each other would go against the narrow definition of move variations already defined by this page, but I think it is incorrect.  I give up though, so I&#039;ll just continue ignoring it.&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;mdash;&amp;amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 04:40, 15 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Protect? Detect? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Aren&#039;t they variations of each other? --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 08:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Someone should go down this whole talk page and just do it. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 08:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Phred: They have the same effect, it looks like, but Detect has half of Protect&#039;s PP, so no, not according to our definition.&lt;br /&gt;
::Raijinili: What? --[[User:Martonimos|((&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#008000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Marton&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Martonimos|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#50C878&amp;quot;&amp;gt;imos&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;))]] 08:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Although there are moves that say &amp;quot;10 or 15 pp&amp;quot; or something similar, so maybe... --[[User:Martonimos|((&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#008000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Marton&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Martonimos|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#50C878&amp;quot;&amp;gt;imos&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;))]] 08:33, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I think a difference in PP is a poor reason not to consider two moves as variations of each other.  They obviously have the same effect.&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;mdash;&amp;amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 08:40, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::To the point where the two moves share the same success rate. --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 23:47, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rock Slide and Air Slash ==&lt;br /&gt;
Both have 75 BP, 30% Chance of Flinch, and 95(?) Accuraccy. I think that makes them variations on the same move.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 16:01, 25 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thief and Covet ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The only item-stealing damaging moves, with same power and accuracy, are yet to be covered here. I dropped a line earlier in hopes of the issue being picked up by more people, but it failed, my mistake. So I chose to be more direct in approach and now I ask, if other moves have ignored PP in favor of more relevant traits, shouldn&#039;t these two be listed as variations? I think there even used to be a template for both, but it got deleted. --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 16:13, 9 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== {{m|Glare}} and {{m|Stun Spore}} ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Same effect, PP, accuracy and power (or the lack of it), varies on type only . These are variations, so I&#039;ll add them, but I don&#039;t know how to put the template on the move pages... {{u|Mr. Charlie}} 22:57, 14 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Strength as first in a variation ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve realized that Dragon Claw and the others are exactly like Strength but in type, so i&#039;ve changed that, and made Strength as the first in the variation. This is my first edit, i hope it&#039;s all-right, I don&#039;t know if the move wasn&#039;t in there because it is a HM.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Kudos for effort there. But yeah, we don&#039;t include HMs so it&#039;ll have to go back to how it was. Sorry. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::&#039;&#039;we don&#039;t include HMs&#039;&#039; Doesn&#039;t explain Waterfall, and no, &amp;quot;it wasn&#039;t a HM originally&amp;quot; doesn&#039;t seem like a good rationale to me. [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 12:09, 15 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, I hadn&#039;t realized this at the time, but the variations of Waterfall have the flinching effect. And I see what you mean when you say that about not explaining it well. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:08, 15 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weather Moves ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Aren&#039;t the weather moves variations of each other? Or at least Rain Dance/Sunny Day and Snadstorm/Hail? I mean, they all change to a weather for five turns. [[User:Mr. Charlie|Mr. ]][[User talk:Mr. Charlie|Charlie]] 18:25, 27 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I guess you could consider them variations of each other, but I&#039;ve never really thought of them like that. I&#039;d wait to add it untill more people agree or disagree. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 18:51, 27 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::They all change weather but their effects are different. Well, indirectly. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 21:40, 28 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That&#039;s the thing... I don&#039;t know if it should be added or not... they&#039;re like the elemental punches (damage + chance of status problem), because they change the weather condition during the battle and have a side effect... [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:07, 28 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Go for it. Sunny Day, Rain Dance and Hail are all exactly the same (IIRC) and Sandstorm has 5 more PP. I&#039;m not sure whether that matters, coz you guys had a huge argument about that... &amp;amp;mdash; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#0000C8&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE TROM&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] &amp;amp;mdash; 23:26, 28 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Should I add it as &amp;quot;Variations of *insert weather move*&amp;quot; or as &amp;quot;Weather Conditions/Moves&amp;quot;? I&#039;ll add it anyways, but should it need to have the title changed I&#039;ll do that. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:04, 29 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Or should it be, like the original question, Rain Dance/Sunny Day and Sandstorm/Hail? Eh, I&#039;ll put it all together for now and it can be changed later.... [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:09, 29 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Powders and Flattering ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How come that {{m|PoisonPowder}}, {{m|Sleep Powder}} and {{m|Stun Spore}} aren&#039;t move variations? They have the same accuracy, animation, the same Contest appeal and Pokémon learn them around the same time, it kind of makes sense that they are.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Also {{m|Flatter}} and {{m|Swagger}} are variations as they both confuse but Swagger ups attack and Flatter ups Special Attack, I&#039;m not sure how to add them lmao, I thought I should say it here first though ;) --[[User:Ripp145|Ripp145]] 12:23, 26 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Apparently, Flatter only raises Special Attack one stage, while Swagger raises Attack by two stages. Also, both have different accuracy. Too many differences to qualify. --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 02:33, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::The powders aren&#039;t considered variations yet?! &#039;&#039;Alpha&#039;&#039; [[User:CuboneKing|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Cu&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User talk:CuboneKing|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Bronze&amp;quot;&amp;gt;bo&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ne&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;King&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 02:36, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::If we&#039;re discussing variations to add, I have a couple suggestions.&lt;br /&gt;
:Arm Thrust as a variation of Barrage&lt;br /&gt;
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:Fire Blast and Megahorn as variations of Blizzard&lt;br /&gt;
::With all these variations, they share identical effects, power and PP. The only difference between the suggested moves and the established moves is that accuracy is a tiny bit higher or lower. Also, some of the moves listed as variations don&#039;t qualify but are listed anyway. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:02, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Okay, I made a change that in hindsight I&#039;m unsure of. In Gen 3, Leaf Blade fit the requirements to be considered a variation of Slash - 70 power, 15 pp, 100% accuracy, high chance for critical. But in Gen 4 it&#039;s power is 90, and it has its own variation now, Attack Order. So....what do we do? IMO, it should be considered variations of both, depending on the Generation. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 04:01, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Yeah, no. The Barrage variations all have the same power and accuracy, Arm Thrust only has the same power. Fire Blast and Megahorn are different than Blizzard for a lot of things: Fire Blast has more accuracy, Megahorn has more accuracy, Megahorn has no secondary effect. Dark Pulse has more accuracy than Zen Headbutt. Bind, Wrap, and Fire Spin all have differnt accuracies. There&#039;s more to this page than just &amp;quot;Oh, it looks similar or has similar accuracy/PP/Power/type!&amp;quot; There&#039;s reasons that most of these aren&#039;t on there. The ones that don&#039;t seem like they fit are included because they either were the same, or are now the same. And Leaf Blade doesn&#039;t count, because it&#039;s already in a category that&#039;s more specific. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 20:15, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why does Leaf Blade not count? It fit all the requirements before it&#039;s power was changed, if it doesn&#039;t count than neither does Zap Cannon as a variation of Dynamic Punch. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:26, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:And like I said, there&#039;s already moves listed as variations that don&#039;t fit the requirements to count, or the requirements are flexible like &amp;quot;move does X or Y&amp;quot;. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:28, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I went through the list, here&#039;s some examples of the above:&lt;br /&gt;
::Blizzard&#039;s requirements are &amp;quot;5 or 10 PP&amp;quot;, because otherwise Thunder wouldn&#039;t qualify. Also, Focus Blast doesn&#039;t qualify because it doesn&#039;t cause a status ailment&lt;br /&gt;
::Zap Cannon is listed as a variation of Dynamic Punch, but it has different power.&lt;br /&gt;
::Seed Flare is listed as a variation of Fire Blast, but it doesn&#039;t cause a status ailment.&lt;br /&gt;
::Surf is listed as a variation of Flamethrower but doesn&#039;t cause a status, and it says so right on the page&lt;br /&gt;
::Giga Drain&#039;s requirements again, &amp;quot;5 or 10 PP&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m just saying, why are exceptions made for some moves to count them as variations, and not others? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:47, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::PP is the only exception we make for differences. Zap Cannon and DynamicPunch are different than Leaf Blade. Did you even bother READING what I said about Leaf Blade other than that it doesn&#039;t count? It&#039;s in a category that&#039;s much more specific. It&#039;s with [[Template:Leaf Blade|Attack Order]]. Seed Flare and Fire Blast have the same power and accuracy, and both can have a secondary effect. As for Surf, I&#039;ve always wondered that. I&#039;ll take that out of the template and this page. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Yes I did read it, and I asked why Leaf Blade counts for Attack Order over Slash, when at times it has fulfilled the requirements to be a variation of both. And in that case, I&#039;ll assume Focus Blast gets the same exception as Seed Flare does. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 21:20, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Moves can&#039;t be in more than one category, which is why Leaf Blade is with Attack Order, since they match exactly except for type. And you&#039;re still missing what I&#039;ve been saying. If they have different accuracies, they don&#039;t match. Focus Blast has 70%, and Seed Flare has 85%. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:29, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I am paying attention to what you&#039;re saying. Now pay attention to what I&#039;m saying. Focus Blast does not cause a status ailment as the other variations do, and Seed Flare doesn&#039;t either. Zap Cannon and Focus Blast have different powers. So why are they listed? And again, &#039;&#039;Leaf Blade can count as a variation of both Slash and Attack Order&#039;&#039;, so why do we count one over the other? Why are some exceptions made and not others? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 21:34, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, I don&#039;t think you are. Focus Blast has a &#039;&#039;secondary effect&#039;&#039; like the others do, it&#039;s not limited to status or stat changes. As for Zap Cannon and Focus Blast, I just realized that yeah, it shouldn&#039;t be there. I&#039;ll change that too. If we put Leaf Blade in the Slash variations, then there wouldn&#039;t be one for Attack Order. And yeah, Leaf Blade &#039;&#039;used&#039;&#039; to be in both categories. It&#039;s not anymore. It has more power than Slash. The only ones that I can find that have different powers as of Gen IV are the Petal Dance variations. I&#039;ll see what I can do about that too. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:57, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::That would be nice. I&#039;m not trying to cause trouble or anything, and I&#039;m sorry for arguing with you. I&#039;m just noticing a double-standard in regards to the variations of some moves and want them sorted out one way or the other. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 22:00, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I don&#039;t mind. Arguments need to be more than just &amp;quot;I&#039;m right, you&#039;re wrong!&amp;quot; and stupid things like that, and thankfully this wasn&#039;t one of those times. This article has also had some issues with getting things like that straight, so glad you said something or it would have stayed that way. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 22:04, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::No problem. I admit I&#039;m biased though, when I think of move variations I&#039;m not as tight in my requirements as this page. I still feel like Hydro Pump ought to be a variation of something, but it doesn&#039;t fit any profiles here. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 22:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Lock-On and Mind Reader ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why aren&#039;t they here? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:43, 2 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Swapping moves ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Heart Swap (maybe), Power Swap, and Guard Swap. All Psychic-type, 10 PP, Status. What do you think? [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B69E00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E1E1E1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:52, 5 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Support. Don&#039;t forget {{m|Skill Swap}}! [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 02:06, 5 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::That&#039;s ability though... also, what you did is a redirect. Learn... [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B69E00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E1E1E1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 02:20, 5 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Still a Psychic-type, 10 PP, Status. As for redirect, so? It&#039;s a talk page. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 02:25, 5 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Argh... no... may as well say EVERY single status move. It doesn&#039;t matter typing as long as it&#039;s related. As for redirect, this still applies... [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B69E00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E1E1E1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 02:29, 5 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::No, not &amp;quot;every&amp;quot; status move. I see four moves with &amp;quot;Swap&amp;quot; in their names all of which involve switching some sort of statistic with the opponent. What&#039;s the problem? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:03, 5 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Never mind. We&#039;ll keep it as that then. [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B69E00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E1E1E1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 03:08, 5 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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So we&#039;re adding them? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:16, 5 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Screech Variations ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Couldn&#039;t Cotton Spore be a Screech Variation? It&#039;s not a sound move, but it does lower one target&#039;s speed by two levels and has the same PP and Accuracy. [[User:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Mr. Charlie&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#0000FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TalkToMe&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 04:26, 18 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== {{m|Karate Chop}} and {{m|Poison Tail}} ==&lt;br /&gt;
25 PP, 50 power, 100 Accuracy, high critical-hit ratios. What do you think? Also, would this need a new template to stick on the bottom of the move pages? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 05:46, 6 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Creating and adding. Any other moves that could go on this template? &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 13:34, 6 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I don&#039;t think so, I looked at the other Critical Hit moves, none fit the definition. {{m|Air Cutter}} is close but its not exact. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 15:05, 6 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Alright. Just wanted to make sure nothing needed to be added. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:16, 6 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Counter Moves ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, i&#039;m a fan of the counter moves and i&#039;ve noticed something, why isn&#039;t Metal Burst counted as a variation? I&#039;ve used Mirror Coat and Counter with Glaceon and Hitmonchan respectively and Metal Burst does the effects of &#039;&#039;&#039;both&#039;&#039;&#039; Mirror Coat and Counter. [[User:Geomexis|Geomexis]] 12:51, 16 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Because they aren&#039;t very close. If the effect has something different (such as Metal Burst has both, while Mirror Coat and Counter only have one), it isn&#039;t a variation.  [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 13:00, 16 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Counter specifically only repays physical damage double what was taken, and Mirror Coat specifically only repays special damage double what was taken. Metal Burst repays 1.5 damage, or what was taken plus half of that amount. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 19:02, 16 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Kisses ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{m|Lovely Kiss}} and {{m|Sweet Kiss}} &lt;br /&gt;
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Same accuracy, same PP. First cause sleep, second - confusion. Aren&#039;t move variations? --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 15:08, 30 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tackle and Peck together? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{m|Tackle}} and {{m|Peck}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The two moves are in a grouping together, but I believe they should not be.  They share the Base Power of 35, but while Tackle is 95% accurate, and it mistakenly says Peck to be, Peck is 100% accurate.  -- [[User:Mattman324]] 22:58:00, 23 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Peck and Tackle aren&#039;t variations. Especially in generation V, where Tackle received a BP of 50. Myself, I would put Peck with Vine Whip, because they both have 35 BP, 100% accuracy and no special effect. Their PP, however, differs significantly, but does that really matter? (see below) --[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 15:47, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Signal Beam ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I know it seems weird, but {{m|Signal Beam}} is kinda of a variation of the elemental punches... 75 power, 100 acc, 15 PP and 10% of causing status. It breaks the &amp;quot;tradition&amp;quot;, so to speak, but it fits more than many of the other variations here.  [[User:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Mr. Charlie&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#0000FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TalkToMe&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:38, 4 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==This page needs COLOR!==&lt;br /&gt;
Seriously, it looks really dull, which is especially bad seeing as it&#039;s pretty much all tables. One of the coding wizards here should try to make a template that incorporates colors for the type of each variation and whether they are physical, special, or a status move. For status moves, color them differently based on which stat they change or status effect they inflict—whatever it takes to make this dull-looking article into an attractive resource. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;P&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;K&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;M&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;N&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;]] 16:46, 1 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was just thinking of that myself, then I thought something like this would be perfect. But, you know, with colors for generations and stuff. I&#039;m not a coding guy, I just throw the ideas. I don&#039;t mind working on the entire page, if needed, but I really don&#039;t know how.  [[User:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Mr. Charlie&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#0000FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TalkToMe&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 12:00, 2 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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That looks good. You can probably lose the class=&amp;quot;sortable&amp;quot; since the tables are all small. And make sure you use the region colors for the generation. &amp;amp;mdash;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family:Verdana&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;darklord&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0047AB&amp;quot;&amp;gt;trom&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 10:04, 8 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah... The &amp;quot;how&amp;quot; with the generation/region colors is my issue here. Could you, or anyone, show me how to do it? Really not my area of expertise. [[User:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Mr. Charlie&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#0000FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TalkToMe&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:58, 10 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::How&#039;s this &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;Edit: link removed&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; for a quick mock-up? &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 04:40, 12 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I likey. Let&#039;s use it. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;P&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;K&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;M&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;N&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;]] 11:20, 12 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I like the idea, but don&#039;t forget that it will take longer to load this page.--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 15:36, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== PP ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the article it says that moves need to have the same PP to be variations, but throughout the article it lists moves of differing PP as variations. Should they be removed? [[User:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#d0000d&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;boopee&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pikiwyn&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;]] 17:46, 11 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, I would think so. You can&#039;t have the article contradict itself, can you? &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;;)&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; [[User:The Exterminator|The Exterminator]] 17:53, 11 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree, for my edit and talk page reasons. It&#039;s [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig A]]! [[User talk:Turtwig A|My talk]] or [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|wiki edits]] 00:52, 12 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::An article indeed shouldn&#039;t contradict itself. That&#039;s why the definition itself needs to be altered. --[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 16:27, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Definition ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The definition isn&#039;t specific enough. &amp;quot;Move variations are moves that are identical to each other in terms of damage, PP, and accuracy, but have different elemental types, damage categories, or secondary effects.&amp;quot; The definition works for damaging moves but according to it almost all status moves that have the same PP are variations of each other. So I&#039;m thinking maybe the article needs a different definition for status moves? [[User:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#d0000d&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;boopee&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pikiwyn&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;]] 17:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:How about something like, Status move variations are moves that raise or decrease the same number of stats by the same number of levels. It makes more sense because that way moves like Iron Defense will be a variant of Acid Armor, instead of the current description which makes Baton Pass a variant of Acid Armor. [[User:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#d0000d&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;boopee&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pikiwyn&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;]] 13:37, 29 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::This is what the definition should be: &amp;quot;Move varations are moves that are identical in terms of dammage and accuracy, and have similar secondary effects.&amp;quot; --[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 16:33, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thrash, Petal Dance, and Outrage ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Here&#039;s my question.  Thrash and Petal Dance are grouped together, but Outrage is not included only because is has 15 PP instead of 10.  This difference seems minor to me, and so I think Outrage should be insluded in this group, with a note on it.  If this doesn&#039;t work, then it doesn&#039;t work, but I know for a fact that most people focos on the actual move and its effects, not the PP it has.  There are even people in this talk (although from 2 years ago lol) that group them together, and I know that most people think they are the same move with different types, especially now that they have the same power in Gen V. --[[User:Jdthebud|Jdthebud]] 23:11, 8 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I know that we don&#039;t want the article to contradict itself in this regard, but I think that these three moves are so similar that this could be the exception to the rule. --[[User:Jdthebud|Jdthebud]] 23:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Outrage should be included. Reason: see below.--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 15:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== PP shouldn&#039;t be taken into account ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Taking the PP into account makes the list messier and more incomplete. They are also not the most important aspect anyway ingame: it doesn&#039;t really matter if a move has 35 PP or 40 PP. Seperating Night Slash from Slash, for example, causes an unnecesary amount of slots.--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 15:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree 100%.  PP is such a minor detail, it shouldn&#039;t even matter.  The important thing is base power, similar or identical side effects, and accuracy.  Any move that only serves to boost a stat by two stages is a variation of Acid Armor.  Well, I&#039;m not entirely sure on Body Purge, given its other effect of halving the user&#039;s weight, but still.  My point is, PP shouldn&#039;t be taken into account.  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;- &#039;&#039;unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 16:35, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree too. IMO, the amount of PP is more minor than {{tt|Damage Category|although it shouldn&#039;t be included}}.----&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;無限の知性&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#BF0B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ＤＥＮＮＯＵ&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Special:Random|◆]]&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#1250A6&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ＺＥＮＳＨＩ&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 16:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I also agree, it doesn&#039;t make sense that something like acid armor isn&#039;t a variant of iron defense. [[User:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#d0000d&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;boopee&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pikiwyn&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;]] 17:32, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::OK, so if the majority think that PP shouldn&#039;t count, we can put it back how it was. I changed it because it seemed that people wanted PP to count. I think it should be considered at least under some circumstances. I will stop changing the templates for move variations until the issue is resolved. &lt;br /&gt;
::::Also, it did not create an excessive amount of categories—several were deleted and several were made, balancing out. And PP is much more influential the damage categories. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 08:12, 15 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Ok, it&#039;s maybe better to wait until there aren&#039;t any issues about that anymore. You can always watch the version regardless of PP (where I was responsible for) at this URL: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Move_variations&amp;amp;oldid=1253819--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 19:38, 15 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::After discussing it with a couple of other admins, we decided that the PP does not have to be the same, but it should be similar. i.e. it should differ by five or less. More than that is an indication that the moves aren&#039;t especially similar. &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:38, 5 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Different catagories==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have seperated the status moves from the other moves. The sharply-stat raising moves (besides those of 15PP) are now next to each other.--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 16:56, 16 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Haze &amp;amp; Mist ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can someone add Haze &amp;amp; Mist to the list (they are counterparts)?[[User:Vuvuzela2010|Vuvuzela2010]] 08:32, 23 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Shadow Ball/Crunch as variations of Waterfall ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I added them to variations of waterfall and changed the definition of waterfall so that they both fit. But since all previous variations caused flinching, and the two I added lower defense /sp. def should they be considered two different moveset variations? Also, the templates under shadow ball and crunch I left as they are because I have no idea how to do it, or if even they are in fact variations of waterfall. Thanks...&lt;br /&gt;
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== Extreme Speed and Sucker Punch ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{m|ExtremeSpeed}} now has +2 priority instead of +1. So, isn&#039;t it not a variation of {{m|Sucker Punch}} anymore? Also Sucker Punch work in different way, so this moves seems even less likely to be variations. --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 09:39, 4 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Elemental Surfs? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Discharge is like surf, affecting all opponents. Also a poison move.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also Poison Fang should be with the fangs.[[User:Tesseract|Tesseract]] 08:53, 10 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Discharge does not have the same base power as Surf. Therefore, not a variant. Poison Fang also does not have the same base power as the other fangs. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 08:58, 10 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Order of Oath Moves Doesn&#039;t Matter ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hasn&#039;t it been confirmed that the Oath moves can be used in any order to produce the same effect? Each individual page should be updated accordingly. (I figured I&#039;d say this here instead of repeating myself on each individual page. This page (Move Variations) seems correct, but the individual pages are not.) [[User:Grei|Grei]] 18:01, 18 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ignore base power differences, if the rest of the move is similar? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There may be one or two other examples of this, but the main one I&#039;m thinking about is Zap Cannon in relation to DynamicPunch and Purgatory. Just because the base power of Zap was increased to 120 shouldn&#039;t disqualify it from being a variation of the other two moves, because they all have the same, and probably more important and notable properties of 50% accuracy and the guaranteed infliction of a status ailment (type/ability permitting).&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, as an aside, why disqualify Surf from being similar to Tbolt, Flamer, Ice Beam and Slime Wave? It&#039;s also the Base 95, fully accurate move of it&#039;s type... &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TheChrisD|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;Verdana&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TheChrisD&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_talk:TheChrisD|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;lime&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rants&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;lime&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Edits&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:21, 25 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:{{m|Surf}} hit all opponents in double battles, while {{m|Ice Beam}} can freeze, {{m|Flamethrower}} inflict burn and so on, there is the difference. It&#039;s noted that {{m|Zap Cannon}} &#039;&#039;&#039;was&#039;&#039;&#039; a variation. Is there any other moves, which are similar except for base power really? --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 09:36, 25 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Still though, it does mean that they all have a secondary effect, simply because one of those effects does not actually inflict a status ailment shouldn&#039;t be enough to disqualify it from being considered a move variation, when in that case, the real important points to note of those moves are that they are the Base 95 move of their type.&lt;br /&gt;
::While Zap is currently being taken as a &#039;&#039;former&#039;&#039; variation, that&#039;s simply because of the change in Base Power - but in the case of their group, the most notable feature of them is their 50% accuracy and the infliction of the status ailment. Just because one of them was upgraded (for some unknown reason) really shouldn&#039;t be enough to disqualify it. I&#039;m not sure of any other cases where this could apply - Leaf Blade&#039;s base power increase was a different thing, because the other aspects of the group probably weren&#039;t as notable since it was just the &amp;quot;high crit rate&amp;quot; factor. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TheChrisD|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;Verdana&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TheChrisD&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_talk:TheChrisD|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;lime&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rants&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;lime&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Edits&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:59, 2 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Moves with different base powers and accuracies really aren&#039;t variations. PP is less of a concern, as it does not affect how the move functions (except {{m|Trump Card}}, where a variation would require identical PP). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 10:51, 13 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Psycho Shock ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Psycho Shock and Sword of Mystery (Keldeo&#039;s signature move).&lt;br /&gt;
special attack, 100% accurancy, 10 PP ,damage based on user&#039;s sp. attack and target&#039;s defence, but shock has 80 base power and sword has 85. --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:42, 24 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:If you&#039;re going to even think of these as variations, why not Psycho Break? [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] 18:48, 24 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Right, i forgot that one, thanks --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:53, 24 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Worry Seed ==&lt;br /&gt;
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and Simple Beam.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes? No?&lt;br /&gt;
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== Iron Tail And Dragon Rush? == &lt;br /&gt;
Same Accuracy, Power, Similar PP, {{m|Iron Tail}} Has a 10% Chance to cause a Defense drop, {{m|Dragon Rush}} has a 20% chance to flinch, Similar enough to qualify, do we think? [[User:ContraOmega|ContraOmega]] 15:47, 26 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Surf question? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Isn&#039;t [[Surf (move)|Surf]] variation of Flamethrower? Because if Sludge wave is then Surf should also be because it has the same base power of 95. [[User:Flygonfanno1|Flygonfanno1]] 07:32, 18 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sludge Wave should not have been marked as a variation, it has different targeting to Flamethrower variants. Surf is neither because it has different targeting and no secondary effect, while Sludge Wave has a 10% poison chance. &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 07:56, 18 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Variations of Bite ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m sorry but those moves have barely anything in common beyond power. The PP ranges, the Physical/Special changes between moves, they LOOK nothing alike, and the percentages of doing anything extra also vary. This should be removed. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Toon Ganondorf|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00693E&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Toon Ganondorf&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; ]]   [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D4AF37&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(t&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D4AF37&amp;quot;&amp;gt;c)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 13:18, 1 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Looks and damage category don&#039;t matter, but with such all over the place effects, I agree. The wide range of chances mean that they are similar, but not variations as far as I&#039;m concerned. That said, 20/25PP is probably close enough that the 30% chance ones could be considered variations. (I discussed this with several admins about a year ago, and viewpoints ranged from them needing to be identical PP, to PP not mattering. We reached an agreement that 5PP different was the maximum allowable, provided that they are the same in other aspects (power, accuracy, target and side effect chance). 5PP and 10PP would probably not be acceptable though.) Bite and Heart Stamp definitely are variations. &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 03:37, 2 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::So in short...? Bite and Heart Stamp stay but the rest go? I&#039;d be happy with that. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Toon Ganondorf|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00693E&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Toon Ganondorf&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; ]]   [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D4AF37&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(t&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D4AF37&amp;quot;&amp;gt;c)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 11:12, 4 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Bite and Heart Stamp stay, Dragonbreath could stay or go. What the effect is often doesn&#039;t matter, but then it&#039;s usually that they all give the same class of status effect, e.g. prz/frz/brn/psn/slp. Question is whether they are similar enough for the PP difference to be overlooked. (Opinions on this one would be nice, RC watchers), the rest definitely go. &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 02:02, 5 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::{{tt|Someone call for opinions?|slams the door against the wall}} Quite a few of these wouldn&#039;t pass for variations of anything. But then again, I have issues with the whole system here. I would naturally lump {{m|Hyper Beam}} and {{m|Giga Impact}} together, but the last thing I would put together would be {{m|Bite}} and {{m|DragonBreath}}. [[User:Truthseeker4449|Truth]][[User talk:Truthseeker4449|seeker]][[Special:Contributions/Truthseeker4449|4449]] 02:17, 5 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::{{m|Giga Impact}} is a Physical variation of {{m|Hyper Beam}}.  Variation can include damage category variations as well as type. &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 02:53, 5 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Table of Contents==&lt;br /&gt;
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The TOC is over 100 lines long and takes up a lot of space. Would it be more convenient if the table was limited to have only the four main sections listed? [[User:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#d0000d&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;chiller&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pikiwyn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;]] 21:23, 5 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:How&#039;s that? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 15:07, 3 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wrong Signature moves ==&lt;br /&gt;
Counter and Dig weren&#039;t Hitmonchan and Diglett Sign. Moves, because there were TM that taught them even in Gen I. {{unsigned|Reizo20}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== This needs changes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{redlink|:Template:Sludge Bomb|Template}} says that Sludge Bomb is a variation of Hyper Voice and Dragon Pulse, page doesn&#039;t... what? It needs changes (as in title). [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 10:28, 27 July 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Work Up and Bulk Up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Shouldn&#039;t &amp;quot;Work Up&amp;quot; be listed as a variation of the move &amp;quot;Bulk Up&amp;quot;? {{unsigned|Slkr95}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dig - Dive - FLY? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that Fly might count as a variation of Dig. All three moves involve the user vanishing for a turn, so that only certain attacks work, then attacking when its opponent least expects it. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 14:53, 21 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:This page is subject to very strict guidelines in order to prevent speculation. Please read the first sentence of the main article to see why your suggestion is invalid. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:57, 21 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Taunt Variations ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could {{m|Disable}} be added to the list of variations of Taunt? It meets the PP and Accuracy requirements, and it &#039;&#039;does&#039;&#039; limit the opponent in some way. [[User:Schiffy|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;000999&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Schiffy&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;FF6600&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Speak to me&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;amp;#124;[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;What I&#039;ve done&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]) 19:05, 14 September 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weather Ball and Payback ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could they be considered as variations? They&#039;re both moves of 50 base power that doubles under certain conditions, and they have the same PP, accuracy and targeting. The only difference is the type changes of Weather Ball. {{unsigned|El shendee}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sludge Bomb ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Now that Flamethrower and its variations have been reduced to 90 base power, they all now have the same base power as Sludge Bomb.  On top of that, Sludge Bomb has the same amount of PP as Ice Beam, and they&#039;ve all had the same accuracy the entire time.  Would this not qualify Sludge Bomb as a Flamethrower variation now?  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;- &#039;&#039;unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:36, 24 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Flamethrower variations have a 10% chance of afflicting a status condition, Sludge Bomb has 30%. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Glik|glik]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Glik|glak]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:44, 24 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, not all of Aurora Beam&#039;s variations have a 10% chance for their side effects.  Sludge and Spark have a 30% chance to paralyze and poison, respectively, and Low Sweep has a 100% chance of lowering Speed.  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;- &#039;&#039;unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:56, 24 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Aurora Beam isn&#039;t Flamethrower; moves have different stipulations that determine their variations and they&#039;re not going to be the same. Aurora Beam variants all share three points with one point differing amungst them. Flamethrower variants share four points and one differing point, so we can&#039;t add another; that&#039;s why Sludge Wave isn&#039;t a variation, since it would add another differing point. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Glik|glik]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Glik|glak]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:13, 25 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Should Sweet Scent be considered a variation anymore? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Unlike its variations, it now decreases evasiveness by two stages, whereas its variations lower accuracy by one stage. [[User:Trainer Yusuf|Trainer Yusuf]] ([[User talk:Trainer Yusuf|talk]]) 11:39, 20 July 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fairy Wind ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Fairy Wind seems to fit into two tables at once (Water Gun and Gust). [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 12:03, 20 July 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Which is why the rule that allows moves to have different PP, but not by more than 5, is flawed. Either any PP constraint should be removed, or PP should be required to be the same (my preference). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 12:11, 20 July 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dragon Rush - Iron Tail - Egg Bomb ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Suggestion for addition:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{mvar/h|10 or 15|power=100|acc=75|notes=Chance of causing a secondary effect|PP=PP|other=Secondary effect}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|II|other=30% chance to lower defense|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Dragon Rush|Dragon|Physical|IV|other=20% chance to flinch|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
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There is also Egg Bomb - 10 PP, 100 power, 75% accuracy, but no additional effect.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comments? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 21:50, 20 July 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I disagree. They have significantly different additional effects, which all have different chances of occurring. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 03:35, 21 July 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::So do the listed variations of Blizzard, Crunch, and Waterfall. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 05:13, 21 July 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Head Charge ==&lt;br /&gt;
Is the a reason why Head Charge isn&#039;t listed as a variant of Double Edge? Or can I add it to the table? [[User:Megalorex|Megalorex]] ([[User talk:Megalorex|talk]]) 12:35, 9 December 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The amount of recoil differs. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 07:09, 10 December 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Oops, was looking at the gen 1 summary [[User:Megalorex|Megalorex]] ([[User talk:Megalorex|talk]]) 11:50, 10 December 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sludge and Heat wave ==&lt;br /&gt;
I think that these two moves are variations because they share the same 95 power,10 PP,100% accuracy,the same 10% chance for a second effect, and can hit all nearby foes. Would you guys agree? [[User:CoolMan6001|CoolMan6001]] ([[User talk:CoolMan6001|talk]]) 03:45, 7 March 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Actually heat wave has 90% not 100% [[User:CoolMan6001|CoolMan6001]] ([[User talk:CoolMan6001|talk]]) 13:14, 30 March 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== PP variation in both directions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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After some debate about whether or not PP should matter, it was agreed upon that it wouldn&#039;t as long as it was within 5. This created a problem in Generation VI with variations of {{m|Strength}}. Strength has 15 PP, some of its variations have 20 PP, but {{m|Dazzling Gleam}} has 10 yet is similar enough in every other way to be rightly included. It only differs from the &amp;quot;base&amp;quot; move by 5; however it is in a different direction than the other variations. Excluding Dazzling Gleam would be as absurd as adding it but excluding {{m|Power Gem}} and {{m|Drill Peck}}. For this reason, I&#039;ve added it, and strongly feel it should stay. (This issue may arise with other moves I haven&#039;t looked at yet, in which case I&#039;ll do the same thing). Some may point out that Dazzling Gleam differs in being able to affect multiple targets. However, this has never been an issue with variations, because {{m|Blizzard}} does the same thing. I see no reason not to include it. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:05, 8 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Different targeting is supposed to preclude moves from being variations, but it seems variations ignoring targeting have crept in over time. Ideally they would all be weeded out... --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 05:06, 9 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I disagree wholeheartedly. If we did that, we&#039;d have to split Acid&#039;s variations into two groups: one for {{m|Acid}}, {{m|Bubble}}, and {{m|Powder Snow}} (which affect multiple targets), and one for {{m|Ember}} and {{m|Thunder Shock}} (which don&#039;t). {{m|Blizzard}} would also be removed from the list including {{m|Thunder}} and {{m|Hurricane}} (despite the moves being basically perfect examples of variations otherwise. I don&#039;t think it would make sense to do this, as these are all still variations in every other way. And targeting shouldn&#039;t be terribly relevant here, as it is irrelevant in single battles, which comprise an &#039;&#039;extreme&#039;&#039; majority of all in-game battles. Perhaps if there are only two moves in question and they have different targeting, it might make more sense. But when we&#039;re talking affecting the lists I mentioned (and probably several more), I think it&#039;s just a step too far. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:39, 10 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Outdated Template ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I personally went through each move that was introduced in Gen VI, and added any that fit on this page to their respective tables. Can the &amp;quot;outdated&amp;quot; template be removed now? — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900cc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TA&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;LK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 06:20, 10 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Pound&amp;diff=2456185</id>
		<title>Template talk:Pound</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Pound&amp;diff=2456185"/>
		<updated>2016-06-10T06:16:43Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: Created page with &amp;quot;== Deletion ==  In the Move variations page, these move are listed rightfully as variations of {{m|Gust}}, rather than of {{m|Pound}}, since Gust comes before Pound alphab...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Deletion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the [[Move variations]] page, these move are listed rightfully as variations of {{m|Gust}}, rather than of {{m|Pound}}, since Gust comes before Pound alphabetically. I&#039;ve created a [[Template:Gust|new template]] and edited the pages for {{m|Pound}}, {{m|Scratch}}, {{m|Gust}}, {{m|Fairy Wind}}, and {{m|Water Gun}} so they show that template instead. I see no further reason to keep this page. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900cc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TA&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;LK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 06:16, 10 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Basculin_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&amp;diff=2456175</id>
		<title>Talk:Basculin (Pokémon)</title>
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		<updated>2016-06-10T05:51:29Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Four Abilities */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Forme info|550{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: H}} mod 2}}|0=B|1=}}.png|water|water|[[Form differences#Basculin|Basculin&#039;s forms]]|Basculin in its {{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: H}} mod 2}}|0=Blue|1=Red}}-Striped form|the artwork shown in the infobox, the anime image shown and the evobox which is unhidden|hour}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Name Origin ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Its name is probably a combination of バス &#039;&#039;Basu&#039;&#039;, Bass, and バカラオ &#039;&#039;Bakarao&#039;&#039;, Bacalhau. {{unsigned|KurowaSan}}&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks.&amp;lt;s&amp;gt; I&#039;ll add that. However, anyone is allowed to edit this page, as well as the other two&#039;s. Thanks again.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; I noticed you already added it. [[User:Turtwig A|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#CD7F32&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Turtwig&#039;s&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF7F00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;A-B-Cs&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] |  [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#yellow&amp;quot;&amp;gt;contribs&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]) 03:19, 11 August 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Form differences ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Has it been specified which form is in which version? [[User:Turtwig A|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#CD7F32&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Turtwig&#039;s&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF7F00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;A-B-Cs&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] |  [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#yellow&amp;quot;&amp;gt;contribs&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]) 11:52, 13 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, but I&#039;m wondering why both forms aren&#039;t in the article. --[[User:Element03|Element03]] 16:43, 13 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Done. [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#003366&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#527935&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 21:57, 15 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Abilities ==&lt;br /&gt;
Basurao&#039;s abilities depend on the forme; the Red version has Reckless and the Blue version has Rock Head [[User:Vienna Waltz|Vienna Waltz]] 15:05, 3 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Are you sure that it&#039;s Rock Head and not Adaptability? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#444444&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C3C3C3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 07:15, 4 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Are you sure that&#039;s how it goes? I see no confirmation of that anywhere. In fact, whoever extracted the date for smogon seems to disagree and I have a friend claiming he already has both abilities in both formes. I&#039;ll test it myself, if I find it to be untrue, I&#039;ll change it.  [[User:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Mr. Charlie&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#0000FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TalkToMe&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:03, 6 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::OK, and is the ability Adaptability or Rock Head? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#444444&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C3C3C3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 09:58, 7 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Just confirmed. Caught a few Blue Forme Basurao, some had Reckless, some had Adaptability. [[User:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Mr. Charlie&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#0000FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TalkToMe&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:09, 7 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::And now, to make an already complicated subject even more complicated, the Basurao obtained in Hodomoe City, through trade, does have Rock Head. So now I have a bunch of Blue Forme Basurao with Reckless, a bunch with Adaptability and one with Rock Head. What do we do now?  [[User:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Mr. Charlie&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#0000FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TalkToMe&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 16:43, 17 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::So it has 4 abilities? I&#039;m going to have to play with the template to get that to work. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#444444&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C3C3C3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 07:58, 21 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::I managed to add it in. The Dream World ability is a bit squashed now, but it works. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#444444&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C3C3C3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 08:29, 21 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Rabuta Berry==&lt;br /&gt;
Really, guys? Only the red one looks like it, and only marginally. I say we remove that. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;P&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;K&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;M&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;N&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;]] 17:48, 6 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Trivia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Are different striped Basurao able to breed? If so, should that be in the trivia as they don&#039;t get along? It&#039;s [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig A]]! [[User talk:Turtwig A|My talk]] or [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|wiki edits]] 01:39, 10 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s Forbidden love and I think they can [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 01:42, 10 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Like how {{p|Zangoose}} and {{p|Seviper}} can breed. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#444444&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C3C3C3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 07:11, 10 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Origin ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It might just be me, but other than a fish, couldn&#039;t its overall look be based of a submarine? The thing that points to it for me, is the  black spots/circles on its body, which might be like the windows of a real submarine? Also its tail reminds a little like the tail of a submarine.--[[User:Mattii|Mattii]] 00:02, 11 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*It&#039;s just you. It looks NOTHING like a submarine to me. - [[User:050294|050294]] 08:01, 21 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
**Reminds me of my grampa, looks like an old man with few teeth. --&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#91A3B0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;—&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[User:Venomoth|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:black; font-size: 13pt&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;V&#039;&#039;&#039;e&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;№&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;moth&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Venomoth| ♦]] 00:59, 17 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Basslao ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://d.pr/58pt Please move, thanks!]--&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Immewnity|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#88AADD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;immewnity&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Immewnity|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#627DB7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;the&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#335577&amp;quot;&amp;gt;mew&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 16:03, 2 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:What&#039;s that supposed to be? Some kind of silly fandub? There is no official English translation or so of Pokémon Sunday and Smash!. The real official spelling is Bassrao [http://ptcg.creatures.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/BW1_C014_550BASSRAO.jpg] --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 16:23, 23 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::It is the trademarked romanisation.  Despite how crap most of them are (&#039;&#039;&#039;Vani&#039;&#039;&#039;petti, &#039;&#039;&#039;Bani&#039;&#039;&#039;ricci), they are still official. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:white; background-color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;X&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[User:Vuvuzela2010|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:blue; background-color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Vuvuzela2010&#039;&#039;&#039;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:white; background-color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;X&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 00:45, 24 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::[http://d.pr/BQZY He also posted the same thing for Reuniclus&#039;s romanized name] and guess what happened later? [http://www.hardrock-pokemon.com/image/cache/Pokemon-Lanculus-Chillarmy-Shikijika-Pikachu-Bromide-Gum-Promo-Magnet-Card-18-500x500.jpg This showed up] So it&#039;s Bassrao then [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 00:58, 24 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I wouldn&#039;t trust those trading cards either Nyoo. They are inconsistent anyway. Not that I agree with this being at Basslao either. Both are unofficial in my eyes.--[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 01:42, 24 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::My point is that a fansub screenshot of Pokémon Sunday/Smash! is in no way evidence of a correct spelling of the Japanese name in latin letters. And Ataro is the only one who understands that. As for what Kenji-girl says, see here: [[Talk:Maractus_(Pokémon)#Romanization]] --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 09:21, 24 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Yeah... I was agreeing with you partially. I know that the screenshot is of one of #PM subs. Which is why I said &amp;quot;Not that I agree with this being at Basslao either&amp;quot;. I still find the cards questionable though. Just my opinion. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 10:27, 24 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rock Head ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Shouldnt this be treated as a Hidden Ability, like Hihidaruma&#039;s Daruma Mode? &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:white; background-color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;X&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[User:Vuvuzela2010|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:blue; background-color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Vuvuzela2010&#039;&#039;&#039;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:white; background-color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;X&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Hidden Ability is only for those that came from the {{pkmn|Dream World}}. This is not the case. [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#003366&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#527935&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 06:23, 1 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::True, but Hihidaruma with Daruma Mode can {{tt|only|I may be wrong}} be obtained in the Resort Desert, and Daruma Mode is conidered a Hidden Ability.  Could someone confirm if Rock Head can be {{tt|passed on through Breeding by a female Basslao|its gender would need to be changed via a cheating device however, as the Basslao obtained in the trade is always male}}, as Hidden Abilities may be inherited by the offspring. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:white; background-color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;X&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[User:Vuvuzela2010|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:blue; background-color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Vuvuzela2010&#039;&#039;&#039;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:white; background-color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;X&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 06:57, 1 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::From what I&#039;ve read, I believe that there is a byte which indicates whether or not the ability is a hidden ability. The ability Rock Head would not be specified anywhere in the Basurao species&#039; data; instead, the ability would be set manually as if the ability were hacked on or an event-exclusive ability (which this would be the first case of). To test this, if Basurao&#039;s data was modified so that it evolves into itself, then triggering the evolution, the ability should recalculate (I&#039;m pretty sure that abilities recalculate after evolution) and become one of its other abilities. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 08:22, 1 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Only problem.... Basslao does not evolve... [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#003366&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#527935&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 16:59, 1 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Yes, but you could hack it to force it to couldn&#039;t you? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 14:05, 14 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Has anyone had the chance to check this yet? &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:white; background-color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;X&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[User:Vuvuzela2010|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:blue; background-color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Vuvuzela2010&#039;&#039;&#039;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:white; background-color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;X&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 15:32, 16 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Form differences ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article states that red is found in Black and blue is found in White and yet, just 10 minutes ago, I found and caught a Blue stripe in my Pokémon Black. It was on Route 6, just next to the season reasearch place. Just thought I&#039;d let you know, as it seems this article is wrong. [[User:Smashman|Smashman]] 11:28, 26 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Now that I think about it, it was one of those &#039;rare bubble&#039; things. [[User:Smashman|Smashman]] 11:33, 26 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Breeding== &lt;br /&gt;
Sorry if I have missed this in the artical or talk page; but I did not see it and I was wondering since Basculin have their colour set by the gamecard they are caught in. When they breed is the colour chosen at random, by the mothers colour, or by the game card itself?&lt;br /&gt;
   (Forgot to sign)--[[User:011284mm|011284mm]] 20:16, 6 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Just a thought.... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What if part of it&#039;s origin was based on the two families from Romeo and Juliet? It&#039;s probably no but I thought might explain why they quarrel so much. [[User:Smashbrother101|Smashbrother101]] 02:11, 8 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:And how exactly is Basculin related to the Montagues and the Capulets in any way? [[Typhlosion|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;★&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Jo The Marten|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Jo the Marten&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Flygon|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;★&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ಠ_ಠ&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 02:13, 8 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Well in the movie based in the same time period as the play, the Capulets wore red and the Montagues wore blue. --[[User:Sapphowako|Sapphowako]] 01:20, 26 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::So? Team Fortress 2 also has Red vs Blue. Red vs Blue is &#039;&#039;extremely&#039;&#039; common. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;★&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jo The Marten|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Jo the Marten&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Flygon (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;★&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ಠ_ಠ&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Cilan (anime)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#90C870;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;♥&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 02:46, 26 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Basculin is based on a bass. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The developer examined the ecosystem of New York. The source is Nintendo Dream vol.205.[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 01:03, 12 April 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Possible Origins in Street Gangs ==&lt;br /&gt;
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As blue and red Basculin do not get along and will fight each other on sight, could this be a reference to street gangs, reflecting how members of a gang identify themselves by wearing certain colors and will attack those wearing colors that identify them as rival gang members? [[User:Draconium|Draconium]] 01:48, 18 June 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Species name ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Should it be noted that, although these two Pokémon are completely unrelated, that Basculin shares the same species name as {{p|Zweilous}} (Hostile)? Just a thought.--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 18:42, 20 June 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Its noted on every other relevant page, so when trivia is allowed to be added again, why not:&lt;br /&gt;
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:* Basculin shares its species name with {{p|Zweilous}}. They are both known as Hostile Pokémon.&lt;br /&gt;
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:* Zweilous shares its species name with {{p|Basculin}}. They are both known as Hostile Pokémon.&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:white; background-color:#007FFF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;X&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[User:Vuvuzela2010|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#007FFF; background-color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Vuvuzela2010&#039;&#039;&#039;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:white; background-color:#007FFF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;X&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:31, 20 June 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Done. --[[User:PsychicRider|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#78C850;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;P S Y&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:PsychicRider|&amp;lt;sub style=&amp;quot;color:#F85888;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ライダー&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C4E673;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;☮&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039; 00:15, 27 June 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== It dosen&#039;t matter if your red or blue ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I see the blue-striped Ken Suigomi art, but I see the red-striped anime pic. I can&#039;t figure out what is wrong with the switchy thing but I bet somone smart can [[User:05308|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Diamond&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;yellow&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Lanturn&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:05308|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;CodeName: 05308&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 23:46, 30 June 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It should be fixed now. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:white; background-color:#007FFF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;X&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[User:Vuvuzela2010|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#007FFF; background-color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Vuvuzela2010&#039;&#039;&#039;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:white; background-color:#007FFF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;X&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 07:34, 1 July 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::But now I see pics of the blue one, but red stripe still apears in the evolution box [[User:05308|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Diamond&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;yellow&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Lanturn&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:05308|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;CodeName: 05308&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 16:57, 6 July 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;ve edited that bit I missed, should be fixed when the hour comes (since theyre all red now). &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:white; background-color:#007FFF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;X&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[User:Vuvuzela2010|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#007FFF; background-color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Vuvuzela2010&#039;&#039;&#039;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:white; background-color:#007FFF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;X&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 17:12, 6 July 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== EV yeild? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I was EV training my Weavile and the EVs given out by a Macho Brace seems to be 2, as I reseted my stats with the stat reducing berries, and found out that I needed 124 more EVs, can someone explain why? --[[User:Sapphowako|Sapphowako]] 00:46, 26 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ability glitch ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Blue-Striped Basculin now have Rock Head as their first Ability, as the data in the games said in Black and White. According to Serebii, there was a glitch in Black and White that made wild and hatched Blue-Striped Basculin use Red-Striped Basculin&#039;s Ability list, hence only the in-game trade one had the correct Ability. I can confirm that this is now fixed, but I can&#039;t work out how to add a note to the Ability Reckless to this effect. Could someone with better knowledge of wiki markup make this alteration? [[User:Seafarer|Seafarer]] ([[User talk:Seafarer|talk]]) 01:00, 19 October 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;According to Serebii&amp;quot; - You know that Serebii is not too reliable? I don&#039;t add anything from Serebii, unless I can confirm it in-game (such as Glameow appearing in Hidden Grotto during a special Funfest Mission, which is true {{tt|as I witnessed that|By this part I mean I actually started that particular Funfest Mission, entered Hidden Grotto and it actually had a Glameow inside}}). [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 14:04, 19 October 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Confirming it, just found a Blue Striped Rock Head Basculin in Floccesy Ranch (Then caught one with Adaptability to remove any doubt for people in denial). Go nuts. - [[User:Blazios|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:navy&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blazios&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Blazios|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:limegreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 14:46, 19 October 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I don&#039;t know how to change the Ability thing in the table to reflect multiple forms; that&#039;s why I didn&#039;t just change it. And I know Serebii&#039;s not considered a reliable source; if you&#039;d read what I said, I had actually confirmed this before posting.[[User:Seafarer|Seafarer]] ([[User talk:Seafarer|talk]]) 02:53, 20 October 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dr.Seuss ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Sounds like Basculin to me...{{unsigned|Dralcax}}&lt;br /&gt;
:The {{DL|Talk: Keldeo (Pokémon)|Keldeo can&#039;t be based on a toy?|general rule of thumb}} on Bulbapedia seems to be not to make comparisons to copyrighted works unless it&#039;s overwhelmingly obvious (such as Tyranitar being partially based on Godzilla). Red and blue are [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RedIndexBlueIndex common colors for opposites], so it could very well be a coincidence. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 22:08, 22 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Possible Largemouth/Smallmouth connection? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When I hear &amp;quot;freshwater bass&amp;quot;, I immediately think of the two most popular sportfish in the US, the similar but distinct Largemouth Bass and Smallmouth Bass; both are native to New York (along with a lot of Eastern North America), and both have proven popular enough to be introduced around the world as gamefish, including Japan. Could the two forms of Basculin be related to Largemouth and Smallmouth Bass? [[User:Masternachos|Masternachos]] ([[User talk:Masternachos|talk]]) 03:56, 15 December 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Four Abilities ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Basculin is the only Pokémon who can have a total of four different abilities (not counting Mega Evolutions, whose abilities only last for the duration of the battle). Is this notable enough for trivia? — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:51, 10 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* PP variation in both directions */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Template? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This page was an excellent idea, but I wonder if there&#039;s a way to indicate in each move&#039;s article when it belongs to one of these &amp;quot;archetypes&amp;quot;. --[[User:Johans|Johans Nidorino]] 21:10, 19 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I suggested it but it was forgotten later on; and unfortunately, I don&#039;t know how to make templates. -([[User:Llxwarbirdxll|Llxwarbirdxll]] 02:35, 29 May 2007 (UTC))&lt;br /&gt;
:Template namespace. I&#039;ll whip one up. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;E&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 02:53, 29 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Maybe this is not the right place to suggest, but take a look at the template (Flamethrower as an example):&lt;br /&gt;
{| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; class=&amp;quot;toccolours&amp;quot; cellspacing=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;border: 3px solid #88a; border-radius:20px; -moz-border-radius:20px;&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background: #ccf; border: border-radius:20px; -moz-border-radius:20px; padding: 2px 15px;&amp;quot; | [[Move variations|Variations]] of the move {{m|Flamethrower}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;font-size:90%;&amp;quot; align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| {{ic|Special}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{mcolor|Flamethrower|{{fire color}}}} | {{mcolor|Ice Beam|{{ice color dark}}}} | {{mcolor|Sludge Wave|{{poison color dark}}}} | {{mcolor|Thunderbolt|{{electric color dark}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
::Flamethrower mentioned twice, while there is no actual link to &#039;&#039;Variations of Flamethrower&#039;&#039;. I believe it will be better this way:&lt;br /&gt;
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{| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; class=&amp;quot;toccolours&amp;quot; cellspacing=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;border: 3px solid #88a; border-radius:20px; -moz-border-radius:20px;&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background: #ccf; border: border-radius:20px; -moz-border-radius:20px; padding: 2px 15px;&amp;quot; | [[Move_variations#Variations_of_Flamethrower|Variations of the move Flamethrower]]:&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;font-size:90%;&amp;quot; align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| {{ic|Special}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{mcolor|Flamethrower|{{fire color}}}} | {{mcolor|Ice Beam|{{ice color dark}}}} | {{mcolor|Sludge Wave|{{poison color dark}}}} | {{mcolor|Thunderbolt|{{electric color dark}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
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::--[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 11:09, 10 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I agree. It does make more sense that way. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 11:12, 10 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New Variation ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There neeeds to be a Move Variation for the Following moves:&lt;br /&gt;
* {{m|Psybeam}}&lt;br /&gt;
* {{m|BubbleBeam}}&lt;br /&gt;
* {{m|Aurora Beam}}&lt;br /&gt;
* {{m|Sludge}}&lt;br /&gt;
* {{m|Spark}}&lt;br /&gt;
I have checked them all out and they each have:&lt;br /&gt;
* Power: 65&lt;br /&gt;
* Accuracy: 100%&lt;br /&gt;
* PP: 20 &lt;br /&gt;
P.S. I don&#039;t know how to do this myself so really I&#039;m asking for somebody to do this for me!&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 16:53, 13 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, I&#039;m not sure if this should be counted as they each have a different added effect, either a [[status ailment]] or a [[stat]] change. Somebody gie me their:view...[[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 20:32, 16 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe keep the status-changing ones together, and keep the stat-changing ones together, but keep them separate. That means {{m|Psybeam}}, {{m|Sludge}}, and {{m|Spark}} go together, and {{m|BubbleBeam}} and {{m|Aurora Beam}} go together.&lt;br /&gt;
:And don&#039;t forget to use the {{template|m}} template for moves. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;E&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:22, 17 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
By the way, I think you&#039;ve got the wrong idea. I&#039;m not sure on how to create the move variation. I only realised they were similar... [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 15:34, 18 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Or&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is &amp;quot;10 or 15&amp;quot; valid [[Move variations#Variations of Shadow Ball|here]]?  I&#039;d say the use of every possible move variation no matter the amount of PPs it has would require a redefinition.  BTW, {{m|Ice Beam}} and {{m|Thunder}} don&#039;t belong in the tables they&#039;ve been introduced in if following the original criterion. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 05:04, 22 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, I put those there. I&#039;ll have them removed. [[User:Llxwarbirdxll|Llxwarbirdxll]] 08:20, 28 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:LOL, now somebody else did the same with variations of Slash, Waterfall, and Shadow Ball :P --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:08, 7 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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People are no longer respecting the &amp;quot;PPs&amp;quot; part of the definition.  With &amp;quot;Variations of Flamethrower&amp;quot; the article mentions neither 15 nor 10 now.  If this is going to continue, maybe Bulbapedia&#039;s definition on &amp;quot;move variations&amp;quot; should no longer include PPs, which seems to be the least important of the three columns. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 18:35, 5 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Seismic Toss and Night Shade? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Those belong on the list, right?&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 20:10, 15 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Doesn&#039;t {{m|Night Shade}} do somewhere from 1 to 1.5x the level? I know {{m|Seismic Toss}} does the level. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;E&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 23:07, 15 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::No, Psywave does from 0.5 to 1.5x the level. But Night Shade always does damage equal to the level. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Still, they don&#039;t have the same amout of default total PPs. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 01:53, 16 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::They&#039;re stretching it nowadays though. Hmm...{{m|Zap Cannon}} and {{m|DynamicPunch}}... [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D5AA00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C0C0C0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 22:11, 19 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Well, I&#039;m sure {{m|Stone Edge}} and {{m|Cross Chop}} are variations. [[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 07:00, 24 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Definitely ^_^ --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:46, 24 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Stub?==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it Still a stub?--[[User:Torchic-ken|Torchic-ken]] 2:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, there&#039;s a few missing bits. [[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 00:10, 6 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mean Look/Block/Spider Web? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I noticed there isn&#039;t a section for these three moves, and while Block and Mean Look fit a &amp;quot;5 PP, Prevents foe from escaping&amp;quot; description, Spider Web only has one thing setting them apart and that&#039;s the PP issue. Should I add it anyway? [[User:TinaTheKirlia|TinaTheKirlia]] 01:47, 7 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Add only Mean Look and Block.  That&#039;s what has been done in these cases to agree with the current definition of &amp;quot;move archetypes&amp;quot;. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 08:01, 7 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Counter and Mirror Coat? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m really surprised no one did this - they both have 10PP, varying power, 100% accuracy and they both go last and counter the foe&#039;s attack at two times the power. I was trying to find a good way to summarize it though - how&#039;s this? &amp;quot;Goes last and counters the move used by the foe at twice the power&amp;quot;. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E75480;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Tina&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E75480;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;The&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E75480;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Kirlia&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] ♥ 21:23, 6 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:That works. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TTE&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 23:41, 6 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Softboiled and Milk Drink ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Even though they&#039;re listed under variations of Recover.. they both can do something Recover can not -- heal other Pokémon&#039;s HP outside of battle. I think this deserves a mention. :P [[User:Tina|Tina]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:58, 29 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Contests? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it would be incredibly useful to have a version of this page for contests, since many of the moves do the exact same things.&lt;br /&gt;
Thoughts...? [[User:Maki|Maki]] 13:47, 19 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree. However it&#039;d have to be set up differently. It&#039;d be like... effect, cute moves, beauty moves, smart moves, tough moves, cool moves. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]Fire echy&#039;&#039;&#039; 20:49, 21 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Blizzard ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Are Magma Storm and Focus Blast &#039;&#039;really&#039;&#039; variations of Blizzard? Neither inflict a status ailment and Magma Storm sounds more like a multi-turn move. The only similarities seem to be 120 power&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, I think Thunder should be added as a variation. It has 10 PP, not 5, but it causes a status ailment, has 120 power and 70 accuracy. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:28, 21 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thunder and Blizzard also have their accuracy at 100% when used during a specific weather condition. Magma Storm seems most like Outrage, though that goes 2-3 turns, and Focus Blast is just... its own thing. Not &#039;&#039;every&#039;&#039; move has a counterpart, that&#039;s what people need to remember. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]Fire echy&#039;&#039;&#039; 20:38, 21 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::That&#039;s what I mean, a lot of the moves I mentioned, as well as Hydro Pump, Seed Flare and Fire Blast are all &#039;&#039;similar&#039;&#039;, but variations of each other? I&#039;d say they&#039;re similar moves, but not direct variations. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:40, 21 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yes. Variations: Do the same thing. Similarity: have the same PP, power, or accuracy but don&#039;t do the same thing. Outrage and Thrash are variations, despite Outrage now being 120 power. Focus Blast and Blizzard are not because all they share is accuracy and power. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]Fire echy&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:21, 21 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::So, should we move some of the moves I mentioned around? That&#039;s what I&#039;ve been suggesting. I think Magma Storm should be grouped with Outrage and Thrash, and Blizzard, Thunder and Gunk Shot should be in a group. Maybe Seed Flare and Focus Blast too, their effects are identical except for accuracy. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 00:39, 22 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Order==&lt;br /&gt;
Why aren&#039;t they in alphabetical order? {{u|MathijsP}}&lt;br /&gt;
:Beats me. Last time I organized them I put them in order by damage. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 01:59, 20 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Dragon Claw, X-Scissor, Seed Bomb==&lt;br /&gt;
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Aren&#039;t these all variations? They all do 80 damage, have 15 PP, and no added effect. Can I add them? --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 18:25, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You forget to mention the accuracy, but it happens that it&#039;s the same!  So yeah, they&#039;re move variations. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 18:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Great. I guess I&#039;ll add them now. --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 18:25, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, I don&#039;t think I know how to do the template. Can someone else do that? --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 18:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Nevermind, I got them. :) --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 21:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ice Beam?==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ice Beam has only 10 PP, yet it&#039;s claimed to be a variation of Flamethrower and Thunderbolt, which have 15 PP. Can I remove that? --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 21:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Ice Beam is the most useful of all three, but is still the same. Same power, accuracy and rate to inflict a status problem. Part of Ice Beam may be the fact frozen Pokémon are helpless. [[User:Gywall|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF8800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Gyw&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFAE00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;all&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:15, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ice Beam is one of the more visible move variations in normal gameplay. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:21, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ah. I see. OK. --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 00:46, 13 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Air Slash? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wonder if, shouldnt Air Slash be in the &amp;quot;variations of Slash&amp;quot; since it IS a Slash move after all? o: what do you people think? I havn&#039;t really looked up the PP, accuracy and power, but its very similar to Night Slash and Slash. :c--[[User:Angela-Samshi|Angela-Samshi]] 17:50, 23 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Slash and Night Slash have high critical-hit ratios, Air Slash may cause the opponent to flinch.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;midnightblue&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;$aturn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;¥oshi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;maroon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE VOICES&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:54, 23 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ahh, ok thanks. --[[User:Angela-Samshi|Angela-Samshi]] 18:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pound &amp;lt;-&amp;gt; Gust? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Gust isn&#039;t a variation of Pound, is it? - [[User:FireHazard|Hazardous FIRE!]] 00:08, 5 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes it is. 35 PP, 40 power, 100% accuracy&amp;amp;ndash;yup, variation. --[[user:Baby G|Baby G]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Arm Thrust ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I read that the accuracy of Arm Thrust was 100 percent, but it was under the variations of Barrage, saying that its accuracy was 85 percent.  Is its accuracy 85 or 100, cuz I don&#039;t wanna do an edit with wrong info.---[[User:Hitmonchan90|Hitmonchan90]] 23:07, 23 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bulk Up and Calm Mind?==&lt;br /&gt;
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They both have 20 PP, and raise Attack and Defense/Special Attack and Special Defense one stage, respectively. Variants? All signs point to yes. [[User:Master Lucario|Master Lucario]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Yep, variations. Added. --[[user:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF4500;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Baby G]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[user talk:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D1E231;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk to me]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B87333;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;see my edits]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:30, 5 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reorganised ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the moves were looking kinda messy, since the order was somewhat random, I went and moved the sections around to order it A-Z. Exceptions being Elemental X and the OHKO moves as they are listed differently. [[User:Gywall|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF8800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Gyw&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFAE00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;all&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I believe the order was by Base Power of the attacks. [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 13:29, 23 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sections for both {{m|Tail Glow}} AND {{m|Agility}}? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve noticed that there are two sections that both share similar attributes, both sections detail moves that have 20 PP but increase a stat two stages, however, One details just Special attack raisers while the other details the other ones.&lt;br /&gt;
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Should there be two or should they be put together? [[User:PDL|PDL]] 00:22, 23 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was thinking the same thing, but then I found out that all the listed variations of Agility (including Agility itself) have &#039;&#039;30&#039;&#039; PP, and that Tail Glow and {{m|Nasty Plot}} have &#039;&#039;20&#039;&#039; PP. --[[user:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Cho&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[user talk:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;col&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[special:contributions/chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ate&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:23, 23 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Agility has 30 PP.Otherwise, I would say yes--[[User:DCM|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF1111&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DCM&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#DAA520&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#C0C0C0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Contributions&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;))]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I just noticed that now as well ^^; [[User:PDL|PDL]] 00:35, 23 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Crabhammer ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both Crabhammer and Blaze Kick &#039;&#039;used&#039;&#039; to be signature moves. Should this be noted? --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 21:43, 25 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t think it should. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[user:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Cho&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[user talk:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;col&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[special:contributions/chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ate&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:47, 25 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Lock-On/Mind Reader ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How about them? [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D5AA00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C0C0C0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 23:19, 18 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I remember them having the exactly same effect, so if my memory serves me right, they could be added. &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #3FFF00; font-weight: bold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;UltimateSephiroth&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;(&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #003FFF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:UltimateSephiroth|user]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|contrib]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:29, 18 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::How about {{m|Whirlwind}} and {{m|Roar}}? [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D5AA00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C0C0C0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 04:05, 14 December 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== {{m|Spikes}} / {{m|Toxic Spikes}} ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Should these be parterned up?--[[User:RexRacer|&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E7CE6B&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rex&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#42528C&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Racer&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;]] [[User talk:RexRacer|&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF5A00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;-talk&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;]] 16:26, 23 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Don&#039;t forget about {{m|Stealth Rock}}, too. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[user:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Cho&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[user talk:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;col&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[special:contributions/chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ate&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:28, 23 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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First of all, should PP be accounted for or not? Right now, some do and some don&#039;t. I don&#039;t really care which one we go with, so long as it&#039;s consistent.&lt;br /&gt;
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Second, effects are not being grouped together consistently either. Example: Spark has a 30% chance of inducing Paralyze. Psybeam has a 10% chance of inducing Confusion. 30 != 10. Another example: Flamethrower has a 10% chance of inducing Burn. Surf has 0% chance of inducing anything at all, and has a different target range on top of that. Also, the diffence between &amp;quot;Acid Armor variations&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Amnesia variations&amp;quot;? Ignoring the PP difference (the Acid Armor variations already do this anyway), who really cares if they raise Special stats or not? You could just as easily group them by Defense or Attack stats. On the other hand, I say just go with &amp;quot;raises a stat by two stages&amp;quot; and leave it at that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Third, I do not think &amp;quot;non-[http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/volatile volatile]&amp;quot; means what you think it means. Why not just put &amp;quot;non-damaging effect&amp;quot; or something else a bit more clear and grammatically correct? [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I never thought PP should be accounted for. A lot of the moves might have the same PP but if all the important other stuff is the same, the moves are pretty much variations! [[User:Toastypk|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#BB0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;~Toastypk&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#770077&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Loom.&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;]] 05:06, 12 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thief and Covet will never be counted as variations if taking PP into account. --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 15:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:And that&#039;s the sad thing, they&#039;re pretty much the same kind of item-stealing damaging move. PP is a moot point! [[User:Toastypk|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#BB0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;~Toastypk&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#770077&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Loom.&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;]] 00:22, 13 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If there&#039;s only one thing different about a move variation, it can still be considered a variation. For example, {{m|Surf}} is one of the {{m|Flamethrower}} variations, because it has the same power, PP, and accuracy. The only thing different is the effect. [[User:Chocolate|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;6D351A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Chocolate&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:Chocolate|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;6D351A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Chat with Me&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 00:44, 13 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Actually, you could argue that Surf is a variation of Earthquake, since they have the same range and the same effect (none). Surf has more PP and less power, but it also has two things different from Flamethrower: range and effect. See? You can&#039;t just go &amp;quot;Oh they&#039;re close ENOUGH&amp;quot;, you have to pick your criteria and stick with it. Either effect counts or it doesn&#039;t count. Either range counts or it doesn&#039;t count. Either PP counts or it doesn&#039;t count. If you start flubbing things, that&#039;s only going to make things more complicated down the line. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 03:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Earthquake has the anti-{{m|Dig}} effect. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 02:55, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Good point, that&#039;s another thing they have in common, since Surf can hit during Dive too. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 03:15, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I don&#039;t think there needs to be a set of rigid rules for move variations.  By definition, variation implies differing conditions, character, and degree.  That said, I do think that a move variations should have identical or &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; similar effects.  PP and base power are relatively unimportant to me, when two moves have unique identical effects.  Consider Bind, Fire Spin, and Whirlpool: they are all multi-turn attacks that trap their foe.  They work exactly the same, and have relatively unique effects (only a handful of moves work like this).  However, Bulbapedia currently only considers Fire Spin and Whirlpool as &amp;quot;variations&amp;quot;.&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;mdash;&amp;amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 03:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I think that trapping should have its own page. It&#039;s not as if the creators sat around and thought, &amp;quot;Hey, wouldn&#039;t it be cool to have a clone of this move for that element?&amp;quot; I think the process was more like, &amp;quot;Hey, why not have this as a mechanic?&amp;quot; --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 05:12, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Minor problem with that though. Ember, Flamethrower and Fire Blast (and probably others but those are the big ones) all have a 10% chance of causing burn. Moreover, they&#039;re all Fire attacks. If we go solely by effect, then that makes them variations of each other. So then we have moves that are multiple variations in one. Is that really ok? I mean, I can see it going either way...&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::One possibility is to split it into two things, where there are moves that are strictly exact copies of each other minus type and specific effect (not % chance of effect though, that has to say the same), and then other moves that just do the same thing but are not exact copies. Like, if I want to look for moves that cause Burn, there could be a category that I could go to and look there, and likewise for moves that cause trapping, or moves that hit everyone on the field. Does that sound reasonable? [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 01:14, 15 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::I&#039;m not talking about secondary effects like 10% of burn or confusion.  I agree that there should be a [[list of moves that burn]] (not a category, unfortunately), but I don&#039;t think they should be considered variations.  In my mind, examples of move variations are moves that have some unique game mechanic, such as {{m|Wrap|multi-turn}} {{m|Magma Storm|trapping}} {{m|Sand Tomb|moves}}, {{m|Fly|moves with}} {{m|Dig|an initial}} {{m|Shadow Force|invulnerable}} {{m|Dive|turn}}, {{m|Block|moves that}} {{m|Spider Web|prevent}} {{m|Mean Look|escape}}, or {{m|Protect|moves that can negate}} {{m|Detect|all negative effects}}&amp;amp;mdash;Moves that work so similarly that there are, for example, abilities that negate the set of them or moves that counter-act a set of them.  These should be considered move variations.&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;mdash;&amp;amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 01:33, 15 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve always considered anything that does not cause damage on an otherwise damaging move to be a secondary effect so I think we are going to differ in thought there, unfortunately. Example: Razor Wind requires charging, has a high crit rate and deals damage, so the charging and high crit rate are both secondary effects. Screech causes only Defense down, so Defense down is the primary effect.&lt;br /&gt;
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Taking each thing in turn, I don&#039;t think that just because Wrap and Magma Storm both cause multi-turn trapping is enough for them to be considered variations. They ought to have a page specifying this, but this does not make them variations, in the same way as Ember and Flamethrower. Ditto with with the semi-invulnerable moves. They are different enough (note which moves can hit which during the invulnerable turn, not to mention Power) to warrant an obviously acknowledged &#039;&#039;similarity&#039;&#039; but not actual variations.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for your last two examples, those moves DO essentially do the exact same thing in every way, with the exception of PP, so I think, if we decide to exclude PP from the criteria (which I am fairly convinced we ought to do by now), then yes, I would consider those move variations.&lt;br /&gt;
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(Somewhat off-topic, why not a category instead of a page? Then there would be links from the moves pages themselves, so they can actually be found... The Pokédex has tons of categories, I&#039;ve noticed...) [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 02:14, 15 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Also, {{m|Mud-Slap}} and {{m|Sand-Attack}} are both Ground moves with a 100% chance of lowering Accuracy, and this can be prevented by abilities such as {{a|Keen Eye}}, but they&#039;re still clearly not variations of each other, right? (Asking because I consider Wrap and Bind and the like to be moves with 100% chance of causing trapping) [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 02:24, 15 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Why aren&#039;t Wrap and Magma Storm variations?  They have the same primary effects (inflict damage over several turns at the end of each turn) and secondary effects (trap target during those turns).  (Though there&#039;s no official source ordering those as primary and secondary; they could just as easily be reversed.)  I realize that Ember and Flamethrower also have the same primary and secondary effects, but another issue I pointed out above is &#039;&#039;unique game-mechanics&#039;&#039;.  There are a hundred moves that have the same primary effect as Ember and Flamethrower (inflict damage) and very similar secondary effects (10% of a major status ailment).  However, there are only 5 moves that work like Wrap and Magma Storm.  I think that makes them remarkable enough to be noted as move variations.&lt;br /&gt;
::Since the definition of variation means details can vary.  That means we could consider numerous damaging moves to be variations of each other.  But I don&#039;t think it&#039;s notable if they don&#039;t have something that sets them apart from other moves.&lt;br /&gt;
::(As for the category thing, I don&#039;t know for sure, but the tons of categories issue might be the reason they didn&#039;t want even more categories for each detail.)&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;mdash;&amp;amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 02:39, 15 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It seems to me like what you want would be better expressed in a different page, like &amp;quot;Moves that cause the same unique effects&amp;quot; ...Okay, &amp;quot;same unique&amp;quot; is a bit oxymoronic, but you know what I mean. ^^;&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The reason I chose Mud-Slap and Sand-Attack as examples is because they ARE unique, in that Accuracy is not a standard stat, and there are only 5 moves that lower accuracy (and none that raise it, I think): Mud-Slap, Sand-Attack, {{m|Flash}}, {{m|Mirror Shot}}, and {{m|Muddy Water}}, but these are clearly not similar in any other way but that. (Asides from Flash and Sand-Attack, I would consider those variations of the other, with Gen IV&#039;s de-nerfing of Flash.) This page seems to have been created to illustrate which moves have only minor differences, with Power, Accuracy and % effect and PP cited specifically as things that must be the same. No matter which way you cut it, the only thing Wrap and Magma Storm have in common is their secondary multi-turn trapping effect, and I consider multi-turn trapping damage to be a single secondary effect (You are never going to have one of those moves inflict one without the other). Primary effect defaults to damage except for moves that do not ever deal damage. The game even categorizes them as Physical [[Image:PhysicalIC.gif]] and Special [[Image:SpecialIC.gif]], not Status [[Image:StatusIC.gif]]. You can cite their uniqueness, but there are only so many moves that do unique, specific things, like Burn, or charge, or high-crit, but then you&#039;ll end up with almost every move out there having at least one if not multiple variations. If you want to get really unique, {{m|Flame Wheel}} and {{m|Sacred Fire}} are the only moves that can thaw out their user. That makes them variations according to your definition, but they have nothing in common according to the definition already defined on this page. I think this all does deserve to be noted somewhere, but I don&#039;t think this is the right place, is what I&#039;m trying to say. ._.; [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:06, 15 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I am aware that calling certain moves variations of each other would go against the narrow definition of move variations already defined by this page, but I think it is incorrect.  I give up though, so I&#039;ll just continue ignoring it.&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;mdash;&amp;amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 04:40, 15 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Protect? Detect? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Aren&#039;t they variations of each other? --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 08:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Someone should go down this whole talk page and just do it. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 08:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Phred: They have the same effect, it looks like, but Detect has half of Protect&#039;s PP, so no, not according to our definition.&lt;br /&gt;
::Raijinili: What? --[[User:Martonimos|((&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#008000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Marton&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Martonimos|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#50C878&amp;quot;&amp;gt;imos&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;))]] 08:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Although there are moves that say &amp;quot;10 or 15 pp&amp;quot; or something similar, so maybe... --[[User:Martonimos|((&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#008000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Marton&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Martonimos|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#50C878&amp;quot;&amp;gt;imos&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;))]] 08:33, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I think a difference in PP is a poor reason not to consider two moves as variations of each other.  They obviously have the same effect.&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;mdash;&amp;amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 08:40, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::To the point where the two moves share the same success rate. --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 23:47, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rock Slide and Air Slash ==&lt;br /&gt;
Both have 75 BP, 30% Chance of Flinch, and 95(?) Accuraccy. I think that makes them variations on the same move.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 16:01, 25 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thief and Covet ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The only item-stealing damaging moves, with same power and accuracy, are yet to be covered here. I dropped a line earlier in hopes of the issue being picked up by more people, but it failed, my mistake. So I chose to be more direct in approach and now I ask, if other moves have ignored PP in favor of more relevant traits, shouldn&#039;t these two be listed as variations? I think there even used to be a template for both, but it got deleted. --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 16:13, 9 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== {{m|Glare}} and {{m|Stun Spore}} ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Same effect, PP, accuracy and power (or the lack of it), varies on type only . These are variations, so I&#039;ll add them, but I don&#039;t know how to put the template on the move pages... {{u|Mr. Charlie}} 22:57, 14 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Strength as first in a variation ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve realized that Dragon Claw and the others are exactly like Strength but in type, so i&#039;ve changed that, and made Strength as the first in the variation. This is my first edit, i hope it&#039;s all-right, I don&#039;t know if the move wasn&#039;t in there because it is a HM.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Kudos for effort there. But yeah, we don&#039;t include HMs so it&#039;ll have to go back to how it was. Sorry. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::&#039;&#039;we don&#039;t include HMs&#039;&#039; Doesn&#039;t explain Waterfall, and no, &amp;quot;it wasn&#039;t a HM originally&amp;quot; doesn&#039;t seem like a good rationale to me. [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 12:09, 15 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, I hadn&#039;t realized this at the time, but the variations of Waterfall have the flinching effect. And I see what you mean when you say that about not explaining it well. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:08, 15 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weather Moves ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Aren&#039;t the weather moves variations of each other? Or at least Rain Dance/Sunny Day and Snadstorm/Hail? I mean, they all change to a weather for five turns. [[User:Mr. Charlie|Mr. ]][[User talk:Mr. Charlie|Charlie]] 18:25, 27 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I guess you could consider them variations of each other, but I&#039;ve never really thought of them like that. I&#039;d wait to add it untill more people agree or disagree. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 18:51, 27 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::They all change weather but their effects are different. Well, indirectly. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 21:40, 28 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That&#039;s the thing... I don&#039;t know if it should be added or not... they&#039;re like the elemental punches (damage + chance of status problem), because they change the weather condition during the battle and have a side effect... [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:07, 28 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Go for it. Sunny Day, Rain Dance and Hail are all exactly the same (IIRC) and Sandstorm has 5 more PP. I&#039;m not sure whether that matters, coz you guys had a huge argument about that... &amp;amp;mdash; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#0000C8&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE TROM&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] &amp;amp;mdash; 23:26, 28 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Should I add it as &amp;quot;Variations of *insert weather move*&amp;quot; or as &amp;quot;Weather Conditions/Moves&amp;quot;? I&#039;ll add it anyways, but should it need to have the title changed I&#039;ll do that. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:04, 29 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Or should it be, like the original question, Rain Dance/Sunny Day and Sandstorm/Hail? Eh, I&#039;ll put it all together for now and it can be changed later.... [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:09, 29 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Powders and Flattering ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How come that {{m|PoisonPowder}}, {{m|Sleep Powder}} and {{m|Stun Spore}} aren&#039;t move variations? They have the same accuracy, animation, the same Contest appeal and Pokémon learn them around the same time, it kind of makes sense that they are.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Also {{m|Flatter}} and {{m|Swagger}} are variations as they both confuse but Swagger ups attack and Flatter ups Special Attack, I&#039;m not sure how to add them lmao, I thought I should say it here first though ;) --[[User:Ripp145|Ripp145]] 12:23, 26 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Apparently, Flatter only raises Special Attack one stage, while Swagger raises Attack by two stages. Also, both have different accuracy. Too many differences to qualify. --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 02:33, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::The powders aren&#039;t considered variations yet?! &#039;&#039;Alpha&#039;&#039; [[User:CuboneKing|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Cu&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User talk:CuboneKing|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Bronze&amp;quot;&amp;gt;bo&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ne&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;King&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 02:36, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::If we&#039;re discussing variations to add, I have a couple suggestions.&lt;br /&gt;
:Arm Thrust as a variation of Barrage&lt;br /&gt;
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::With all these variations, they share identical effects, power and PP. The only difference between the suggested moves and the established moves is that accuracy is a tiny bit higher or lower. Also, some of the moves listed as variations don&#039;t qualify but are listed anyway. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:02, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Okay, I made a change that in hindsight I&#039;m unsure of. In Gen 3, Leaf Blade fit the requirements to be considered a variation of Slash - 70 power, 15 pp, 100% accuracy, high chance for critical. But in Gen 4 it&#039;s power is 90, and it has its own variation now, Attack Order. So....what do we do? IMO, it should be considered variations of both, depending on the Generation. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 04:01, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Yeah, no. The Barrage variations all have the same power and accuracy, Arm Thrust only has the same power. Fire Blast and Megahorn are different than Blizzard for a lot of things: Fire Blast has more accuracy, Megahorn has more accuracy, Megahorn has no secondary effect. Dark Pulse has more accuracy than Zen Headbutt. Bind, Wrap, and Fire Spin all have differnt accuracies. There&#039;s more to this page than just &amp;quot;Oh, it looks similar or has similar accuracy/PP/Power/type!&amp;quot; There&#039;s reasons that most of these aren&#039;t on there. The ones that don&#039;t seem like they fit are included because they either were the same, or are now the same. And Leaf Blade doesn&#039;t count, because it&#039;s already in a category that&#039;s more specific. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 20:15, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why does Leaf Blade not count? It fit all the requirements before it&#039;s power was changed, if it doesn&#039;t count than neither does Zap Cannon as a variation of Dynamic Punch. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:26, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:And like I said, there&#039;s already moves listed as variations that don&#039;t fit the requirements to count, or the requirements are flexible like &amp;quot;move does X or Y&amp;quot;. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:28, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I went through the list, here&#039;s some examples of the above:&lt;br /&gt;
::Blizzard&#039;s requirements are &amp;quot;5 or 10 PP&amp;quot;, because otherwise Thunder wouldn&#039;t qualify. Also, Focus Blast doesn&#039;t qualify because it doesn&#039;t cause a status ailment&lt;br /&gt;
::Zap Cannon is listed as a variation of Dynamic Punch, but it has different power.&lt;br /&gt;
::Seed Flare is listed as a variation of Fire Blast, but it doesn&#039;t cause a status ailment.&lt;br /&gt;
::Surf is listed as a variation of Flamethrower but doesn&#039;t cause a status, and it says so right on the page&lt;br /&gt;
::Giga Drain&#039;s requirements again, &amp;quot;5 or 10 PP&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m just saying, why are exceptions made for some moves to count them as variations, and not others? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:47, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::PP is the only exception we make for differences. Zap Cannon and DynamicPunch are different than Leaf Blade. Did you even bother READING what I said about Leaf Blade other than that it doesn&#039;t count? It&#039;s in a category that&#039;s much more specific. It&#039;s with [[Template:Leaf Blade|Attack Order]]. Seed Flare and Fire Blast have the same power and accuracy, and both can have a secondary effect. As for Surf, I&#039;ve always wondered that. I&#039;ll take that out of the template and this page. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Yes I did read it, and I asked why Leaf Blade counts for Attack Order over Slash, when at times it has fulfilled the requirements to be a variation of both. And in that case, I&#039;ll assume Focus Blast gets the same exception as Seed Flare does. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 21:20, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Moves can&#039;t be in more than one category, which is why Leaf Blade is with Attack Order, since they match exactly except for type. And you&#039;re still missing what I&#039;ve been saying. If they have different accuracies, they don&#039;t match. Focus Blast has 70%, and Seed Flare has 85%. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:29, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I am paying attention to what you&#039;re saying. Now pay attention to what I&#039;m saying. Focus Blast does not cause a status ailment as the other variations do, and Seed Flare doesn&#039;t either. Zap Cannon and Focus Blast have different powers. So why are they listed? And again, &#039;&#039;Leaf Blade can count as a variation of both Slash and Attack Order&#039;&#039;, so why do we count one over the other? Why are some exceptions made and not others? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 21:34, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, I don&#039;t think you are. Focus Blast has a &#039;&#039;secondary effect&#039;&#039; like the others do, it&#039;s not limited to status or stat changes. As for Zap Cannon and Focus Blast, I just realized that yeah, it shouldn&#039;t be there. I&#039;ll change that too. If we put Leaf Blade in the Slash variations, then there wouldn&#039;t be one for Attack Order. And yeah, Leaf Blade &#039;&#039;used&#039;&#039; to be in both categories. It&#039;s not anymore. It has more power than Slash. The only ones that I can find that have different powers as of Gen IV are the Petal Dance variations. I&#039;ll see what I can do about that too. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:57, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::That would be nice. I&#039;m not trying to cause trouble or anything, and I&#039;m sorry for arguing with you. I&#039;m just noticing a double-standard in regards to the variations of some moves and want them sorted out one way or the other. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 22:00, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I don&#039;t mind. Arguments need to be more than just &amp;quot;I&#039;m right, you&#039;re wrong!&amp;quot; and stupid things like that, and thankfully this wasn&#039;t one of those times. This article has also had some issues with getting things like that straight, so glad you said something or it would have stayed that way. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 22:04, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::No problem. I admit I&#039;m biased though, when I think of move variations I&#039;m not as tight in my requirements as this page. I still feel like Hydro Pump ought to be a variation of something, but it doesn&#039;t fit any profiles here. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 22:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Lock-On and Mind Reader ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why aren&#039;t they here? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:43, 2 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Swapping moves ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Heart Swap (maybe), Power Swap, and Guard Swap. All Psychic-type, 10 PP, Status. What do you think? [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B69E00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E1E1E1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:52, 5 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Support. Don&#039;t forget {{m|Skill Swap}}! [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 02:06, 5 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::That&#039;s ability though... also, what you did is a redirect. Learn... [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B69E00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E1E1E1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 02:20, 5 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Still a Psychic-type, 10 PP, Status. As for redirect, so? It&#039;s a talk page. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 02:25, 5 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Argh... no... may as well say EVERY single status move. It doesn&#039;t matter typing as long as it&#039;s related. As for redirect, this still applies... [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B69E00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E1E1E1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 02:29, 5 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::No, not &amp;quot;every&amp;quot; status move. I see four moves with &amp;quot;Swap&amp;quot; in their names all of which involve switching some sort of statistic with the opponent. What&#039;s the problem? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:03, 5 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Never mind. We&#039;ll keep it as that then. [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B69E00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E1E1E1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 03:08, 5 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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So we&#039;re adding them? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:16, 5 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Screech Variations ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Couldn&#039;t Cotton Spore be a Screech Variation? It&#039;s not a sound move, but it does lower one target&#039;s speed by two levels and has the same PP and Accuracy. [[User:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Mr. Charlie&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#0000FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TalkToMe&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 04:26, 18 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== {{m|Karate Chop}} and {{m|Poison Tail}} ==&lt;br /&gt;
25 PP, 50 power, 100 Accuracy, high critical-hit ratios. What do you think? Also, would this need a new template to stick on the bottom of the move pages? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 05:46, 6 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Creating and adding. Any other moves that could go on this template? &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 13:34, 6 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I don&#039;t think so, I looked at the other Critical Hit moves, none fit the definition. {{m|Air Cutter}} is close but its not exact. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 15:05, 6 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Alright. Just wanted to make sure nothing needed to be added. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:16, 6 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Counter Moves ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, i&#039;m a fan of the counter moves and i&#039;ve noticed something, why isn&#039;t Metal Burst counted as a variation? I&#039;ve used Mirror Coat and Counter with Glaceon and Hitmonchan respectively and Metal Burst does the effects of &#039;&#039;&#039;both&#039;&#039;&#039; Mirror Coat and Counter. [[User:Geomexis|Geomexis]] 12:51, 16 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Because they aren&#039;t very close. If the effect has something different (such as Metal Burst has both, while Mirror Coat and Counter only have one), it isn&#039;t a variation.  [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 13:00, 16 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Counter specifically only repays physical damage double what was taken, and Mirror Coat specifically only repays special damage double what was taken. Metal Burst repays 1.5 damage, or what was taken plus half of that amount. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 19:02, 16 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Kisses ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{m|Lovely Kiss}} and {{m|Sweet Kiss}} &lt;br /&gt;
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Same accuracy, same PP. First cause sleep, second - confusion. Aren&#039;t move variations? --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 15:08, 30 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tackle and Peck together? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{m|Tackle}} and {{m|Peck}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The two moves are in a grouping together, but I believe they should not be.  They share the Base Power of 35, but while Tackle is 95% accurate, and it mistakenly says Peck to be, Peck is 100% accurate.  -- [[User:Mattman324]] 22:58:00, 23 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Peck and Tackle aren&#039;t variations. Especially in generation V, where Tackle received a BP of 50. Myself, I would put Peck with Vine Whip, because they both have 35 BP, 100% accuracy and no special effect. Their PP, however, differs significantly, but does that really matter? (see below) --[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 15:47, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Signal Beam ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I know it seems weird, but {{m|Signal Beam}} is kinda of a variation of the elemental punches... 75 power, 100 acc, 15 PP and 10% of causing status. It breaks the &amp;quot;tradition&amp;quot;, so to speak, but it fits more than many of the other variations here.  [[User:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Mr. Charlie&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#0000FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TalkToMe&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:38, 4 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==This page needs COLOR!==&lt;br /&gt;
Seriously, it looks really dull, which is especially bad seeing as it&#039;s pretty much all tables. One of the coding wizards here should try to make a template that incorporates colors for the type of each variation and whether they are physical, special, or a status move. For status moves, color them differently based on which stat they change or status effect they inflict—whatever it takes to make this dull-looking article into an attractive resource. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;P&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;K&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;M&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;N&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;]] 16:46, 1 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was just thinking of that myself, then I thought something like this would be perfect. But, you know, with colors for generations and stuff. I&#039;m not a coding guy, I just throw the ideas. I don&#039;t mind working on the entire page, if needed, but I really don&#039;t know how.  [[User:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Mr. Charlie&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#0000FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TalkToMe&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 12:00, 2 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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That looks good. You can probably lose the class=&amp;quot;sortable&amp;quot; since the tables are all small. And make sure you use the region colors for the generation. &amp;amp;mdash;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family:Verdana&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;darklord&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0047AB&amp;quot;&amp;gt;trom&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 10:04, 8 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah... The &amp;quot;how&amp;quot; with the generation/region colors is my issue here. Could you, or anyone, show me how to do it? Really not my area of expertise. [[User:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Mr. Charlie&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#0000FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TalkToMe&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:58, 10 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::How&#039;s this &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;Edit: link removed&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; for a quick mock-up? &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 04:40, 12 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I likey. Let&#039;s use it. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;P&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;K&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;M&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;N&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;]] 11:20, 12 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I like the idea, but don&#039;t forget that it will take longer to load this page.--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 15:36, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== PP ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the article it says that moves need to have the same PP to be variations, but throughout the article it lists moves of differing PP as variations. Should they be removed? [[User:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#d0000d&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;boopee&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pikiwyn&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;]] 17:46, 11 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, I would think so. You can&#039;t have the article contradict itself, can you? &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;;)&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; [[User:The Exterminator|The Exterminator]] 17:53, 11 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree, for my edit and talk page reasons. It&#039;s [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig A]]! [[User talk:Turtwig A|My talk]] or [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|wiki edits]] 00:52, 12 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::An article indeed shouldn&#039;t contradict itself. That&#039;s why the definition itself needs to be altered. --[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 16:27, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Definition ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The definition isn&#039;t specific enough. &amp;quot;Move variations are moves that are identical to each other in terms of damage, PP, and accuracy, but have different elemental types, damage categories, or secondary effects.&amp;quot; The definition works for damaging moves but according to it almost all status moves that have the same PP are variations of each other. So I&#039;m thinking maybe the article needs a different definition for status moves? [[User:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#d0000d&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;boopee&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pikiwyn&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;]] 17:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:How about something like, Status move variations are moves that raise or decrease the same number of stats by the same number of levels. It makes more sense because that way moves like Iron Defense will be a variant of Acid Armor, instead of the current description which makes Baton Pass a variant of Acid Armor. [[User:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#d0000d&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;boopee&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pikiwyn&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;]] 13:37, 29 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::This is what the definition should be: &amp;quot;Move varations are moves that are identical in terms of dammage and accuracy, and have similar secondary effects.&amp;quot; --[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 16:33, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thrash, Petal Dance, and Outrage ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Here&#039;s my question.  Thrash and Petal Dance are grouped together, but Outrage is not included only because is has 15 PP instead of 10.  This difference seems minor to me, and so I think Outrage should be insluded in this group, with a note on it.  If this doesn&#039;t work, then it doesn&#039;t work, but I know for a fact that most people focos on the actual move and its effects, not the PP it has.  There are even people in this talk (although from 2 years ago lol) that group them together, and I know that most people think they are the same move with different types, especially now that they have the same power in Gen V. --[[User:Jdthebud|Jdthebud]] 23:11, 8 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I know that we don&#039;t want the article to contradict itself in this regard, but I think that these three moves are so similar that this could be the exception to the rule. --[[User:Jdthebud|Jdthebud]] 23:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Outrage should be included. Reason: see below.--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 15:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== PP shouldn&#039;t be taken into account ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Taking the PP into account makes the list messier and more incomplete. They are also not the most important aspect anyway ingame: it doesn&#039;t really matter if a move has 35 PP or 40 PP. Seperating Night Slash from Slash, for example, causes an unnecesary amount of slots.--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 15:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree 100%.  PP is such a minor detail, it shouldn&#039;t even matter.  The important thing is base power, similar or identical side effects, and accuracy.  Any move that only serves to boost a stat by two stages is a variation of Acid Armor.  Well, I&#039;m not entirely sure on Body Purge, given its other effect of halving the user&#039;s weight, but still.  My point is, PP shouldn&#039;t be taken into account.  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;- &#039;&#039;unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 16:35, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree too. IMO, the amount of PP is more minor than {{tt|Damage Category|although it shouldn&#039;t be included}}.----&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;無限の知性&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#BF0B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ＤＥＮＮＯＵ&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Special:Random|◆]]&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#1250A6&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ＺＥＮＳＨＩ&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 16:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I also agree, it doesn&#039;t make sense that something like acid armor isn&#039;t a variant of iron defense. [[User:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#d0000d&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;boopee&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pikiwyn&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;]] 17:32, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::OK, so if the majority think that PP shouldn&#039;t count, we can put it back how it was. I changed it because it seemed that people wanted PP to count. I think it should be considered at least under some circumstances. I will stop changing the templates for move variations until the issue is resolved. &lt;br /&gt;
::::Also, it did not create an excessive amount of categories—several were deleted and several were made, balancing out. And PP is much more influential the damage categories. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 08:12, 15 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Ok, it&#039;s maybe better to wait until there aren&#039;t any issues about that anymore. You can always watch the version regardless of PP (where I was responsible for) at this URL: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Move_variations&amp;amp;oldid=1253819--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 19:38, 15 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::After discussing it with a couple of other admins, we decided that the PP does not have to be the same, but it should be similar. i.e. it should differ by five or less. More than that is an indication that the moves aren&#039;t especially similar. &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:38, 5 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Different catagories==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have seperated the status moves from the other moves. The sharply-stat raising moves (besides those of 15PP) are now next to each other.--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 16:56, 16 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Haze &amp;amp; Mist ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can someone add Haze &amp;amp; Mist to the list (they are counterparts)?[[User:Vuvuzela2010|Vuvuzela2010]] 08:32, 23 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Shadow Ball/Crunch as variations of Waterfall ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I added them to variations of waterfall and changed the definition of waterfall so that they both fit. But since all previous variations caused flinching, and the two I added lower defense /sp. def should they be considered two different moveset variations? Also, the templates under shadow ball and crunch I left as they are because I have no idea how to do it, or if even they are in fact variations of waterfall. Thanks...&lt;br /&gt;
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== Extreme Speed and Sucker Punch ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{m|ExtremeSpeed}} now has +2 priority instead of +1. So, isn&#039;t it not a variation of {{m|Sucker Punch}} anymore? Also Sucker Punch work in different way, so this moves seems even less likely to be variations. --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 09:39, 4 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Elemental Surfs? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Discharge is like surf, affecting all opponents. Also a poison move.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also Poison Fang should be with the fangs.[[User:Tesseract|Tesseract]] 08:53, 10 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Discharge does not have the same base power as Surf. Therefore, not a variant. Poison Fang also does not have the same base power as the other fangs. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 08:58, 10 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Order of Oath Moves Doesn&#039;t Matter ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hasn&#039;t it been confirmed that the Oath moves can be used in any order to produce the same effect? Each individual page should be updated accordingly. (I figured I&#039;d say this here instead of repeating myself on each individual page. This page (Move Variations) seems correct, but the individual pages are not.) [[User:Grei|Grei]] 18:01, 18 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ignore base power differences, if the rest of the move is similar? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There may be one or two other examples of this, but the main one I&#039;m thinking about is Zap Cannon in relation to DynamicPunch and Purgatory. Just because the base power of Zap was increased to 120 shouldn&#039;t disqualify it from being a variation of the other two moves, because they all have the same, and probably more important and notable properties of 50% accuracy and the guaranteed infliction of a status ailment (type/ability permitting).&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, as an aside, why disqualify Surf from being similar to Tbolt, Flamer, Ice Beam and Slime Wave? It&#039;s also the Base 95, fully accurate move of it&#039;s type... &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TheChrisD|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;Verdana&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TheChrisD&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_talk:TheChrisD|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;lime&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rants&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;lime&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Edits&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:21, 25 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:{{m|Surf}} hit all opponents in double battles, while {{m|Ice Beam}} can freeze, {{m|Flamethrower}} inflict burn and so on, there is the difference. It&#039;s noted that {{m|Zap Cannon}} &#039;&#039;&#039;was&#039;&#039;&#039; a variation. Is there any other moves, which are similar except for base power really? --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 09:36, 25 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Still though, it does mean that they all have a secondary effect, simply because one of those effects does not actually inflict a status ailment shouldn&#039;t be enough to disqualify it from being considered a move variation, when in that case, the real important points to note of those moves are that they are the Base 95 move of their type.&lt;br /&gt;
::While Zap is currently being taken as a &#039;&#039;former&#039;&#039; variation, that&#039;s simply because of the change in Base Power - but in the case of their group, the most notable feature of them is their 50% accuracy and the infliction of the status ailment. Just because one of them was upgraded (for some unknown reason) really shouldn&#039;t be enough to disqualify it. I&#039;m not sure of any other cases where this could apply - Leaf Blade&#039;s base power increase was a different thing, because the other aspects of the group probably weren&#039;t as notable since it was just the &amp;quot;high crit rate&amp;quot; factor. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TheChrisD|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;Verdana&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TheChrisD&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_talk:TheChrisD|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;lime&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rants&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;lime&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Edits&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:59, 2 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Moves with different base powers and accuracies really aren&#039;t variations. PP is less of a concern, as it does not affect how the move functions (except {{m|Trump Card}}, where a variation would require identical PP). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 10:51, 13 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Psycho Shock ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Psycho Shock and Sword of Mystery (Keldeo&#039;s signature move).&lt;br /&gt;
special attack, 100% accurancy, 10 PP ,damage based on user&#039;s sp. attack and target&#039;s defence, but shock has 80 base power and sword has 85. --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:42, 24 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:If you&#039;re going to even think of these as variations, why not Psycho Break? [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] 18:48, 24 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Right, i forgot that one, thanks --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:53, 24 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Worry Seed ==&lt;br /&gt;
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and Simple Beam.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes? No?&lt;br /&gt;
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== Iron Tail And Dragon Rush? == &lt;br /&gt;
Same Accuracy, Power, Similar PP, {{m|Iron Tail}} Has a 10% Chance to cause a Defense drop, {{m|Dragon Rush}} has a 20% chance to flinch, Similar enough to qualify, do we think? [[User:ContraOmega|ContraOmega]] 15:47, 26 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Surf question? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Isn&#039;t [[Surf (move)|Surf]] variation of Flamethrower? Because if Sludge wave is then Surf should also be because it has the same base power of 95. [[User:Flygonfanno1|Flygonfanno1]] 07:32, 18 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sludge Wave should not have been marked as a variation, it has different targeting to Flamethrower variants. Surf is neither because it has different targeting and no secondary effect, while Sludge Wave has a 10% poison chance. &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 07:56, 18 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Variations of Bite ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m sorry but those moves have barely anything in common beyond power. The PP ranges, the Physical/Special changes between moves, they LOOK nothing alike, and the percentages of doing anything extra also vary. This should be removed. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Toon Ganondorf|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00693E&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Toon Ganondorf&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; ]]   [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D4AF37&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(t&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D4AF37&amp;quot;&amp;gt;c)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 13:18, 1 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Looks and damage category don&#039;t matter, but with such all over the place effects, I agree. The wide range of chances mean that they are similar, but not variations as far as I&#039;m concerned. That said, 20/25PP is probably close enough that the 30% chance ones could be considered variations. (I discussed this with several admins about a year ago, and viewpoints ranged from them needing to be identical PP, to PP not mattering. We reached an agreement that 5PP different was the maximum allowable, provided that they are the same in other aspects (power, accuracy, target and side effect chance). 5PP and 10PP would probably not be acceptable though.) Bite and Heart Stamp definitely are variations. &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 03:37, 2 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::So in short...? Bite and Heart Stamp stay but the rest go? I&#039;d be happy with that. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Toon Ganondorf|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00693E&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Toon Ganondorf&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; ]]   [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D4AF37&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(t&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D4AF37&amp;quot;&amp;gt;c)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 11:12, 4 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Bite and Heart Stamp stay, Dragonbreath could stay or go. What the effect is often doesn&#039;t matter, but then it&#039;s usually that they all give the same class of status effect, e.g. prz/frz/brn/psn/slp. Question is whether they are similar enough for the PP difference to be overlooked. (Opinions on this one would be nice, RC watchers), the rest definitely go. &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 02:02, 5 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::{{tt|Someone call for opinions?|slams the door against the wall}} Quite a few of these wouldn&#039;t pass for variations of anything. But then again, I have issues with the whole system here. I would naturally lump {{m|Hyper Beam}} and {{m|Giga Impact}} together, but the last thing I would put together would be {{m|Bite}} and {{m|DragonBreath}}. [[User:Truthseeker4449|Truth]][[User talk:Truthseeker4449|seeker]][[Special:Contributions/Truthseeker4449|4449]] 02:17, 5 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::{{m|Giga Impact}} is a Physical variation of {{m|Hyper Beam}}.  Variation can include damage category variations as well as type. &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 02:53, 5 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Table of Contents==&lt;br /&gt;
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The TOC is over 100 lines long and takes up a lot of space. Would it be more convenient if the table was limited to have only the four main sections listed? [[User:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#d0000d&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;chiller&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pikiwyn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;]] 21:23, 5 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:How&#039;s that? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 15:07, 3 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wrong Signature moves ==&lt;br /&gt;
Counter and Dig weren&#039;t Hitmonchan and Diglett Sign. Moves, because there were TM that taught them even in Gen I. {{unsigned|Reizo20}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== This needs changes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{redlink|:Template:Sludge Bomb|Template}} says that Sludge Bomb is a variation of Hyper Voice and Dragon Pulse, page doesn&#039;t... what? It needs changes (as in title). [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 10:28, 27 July 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Work Up and Bulk Up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Shouldn&#039;t &amp;quot;Work Up&amp;quot; be listed as a variation of the move &amp;quot;Bulk Up&amp;quot;? {{unsigned|Slkr95}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dig - Dive - FLY? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that Fly might count as a variation of Dig. All three moves involve the user vanishing for a turn, so that only certain attacks work, then attacking when its opponent least expects it. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 14:53, 21 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:This page is subject to very strict guidelines in order to prevent speculation. Please read the first sentence of the main article to see why your suggestion is invalid. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:57, 21 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Taunt Variations ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could {{m|Disable}} be added to the list of variations of Taunt? It meets the PP and Accuracy requirements, and it &#039;&#039;does&#039;&#039; limit the opponent in some way. [[User:Schiffy|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;000999&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Schiffy&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;FF6600&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Speak to me&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;amp;#124;[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;What I&#039;ve done&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]) 19:05, 14 September 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weather Ball and Payback ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could they be considered as variations? They&#039;re both moves of 50 base power that doubles under certain conditions, and they have the same PP, accuracy and targeting. The only difference is the type changes of Weather Ball. {{unsigned|El shendee}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sludge Bomb ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Now that Flamethrower and its variations have been reduced to 90 base power, they all now have the same base power as Sludge Bomb.  On top of that, Sludge Bomb has the same amount of PP as Ice Beam, and they&#039;ve all had the same accuracy the entire time.  Would this not qualify Sludge Bomb as a Flamethrower variation now?  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;- &#039;&#039;unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:36, 24 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Flamethrower variations have a 10% chance of afflicting a status condition, Sludge Bomb has 30%. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Glik|glik]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Glik|glak]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:44, 24 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, not all of Aurora Beam&#039;s variations have a 10% chance for their side effects.  Sludge and Spark have a 30% chance to paralyze and poison, respectively, and Low Sweep has a 100% chance of lowering Speed.  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;- &#039;&#039;unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:56, 24 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Aurora Beam isn&#039;t Flamethrower; moves have different stipulations that determine their variations and they&#039;re not going to be the same. Aurora Beam variants all share three points with one point differing amungst them. Flamethrower variants share four points and one differing point, so we can&#039;t add another; that&#039;s why Sludge Wave isn&#039;t a variation, since it would add another differing point. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Glik|glik]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Glik|glak]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:13, 25 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Should Sweet Scent be considered a variation anymore? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Unlike its variations, it now decreases evasiveness by two stages, whereas its variations lower accuracy by one stage. [[User:Trainer Yusuf|Trainer Yusuf]] ([[User talk:Trainer Yusuf|talk]]) 11:39, 20 July 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fairy Wind ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Fairy Wind seems to fit into two tables at once (Water Gun and Gust). [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 12:03, 20 July 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Which is why the rule that allows moves to have different PP, but not by more than 5, is flawed. Either any PP constraint should be removed, or PP should be required to be the same (my preference). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 12:11, 20 July 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dragon Rush - Iron Tail - Egg Bomb ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Suggestion for addition:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{mvar/h|10 or 15|power=100|acc=75|notes=Chance of causing a secondary effect|PP=PP|other=Secondary effect}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|II|other=30% chance to lower defense|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Dragon Rush|Dragon|Physical|IV|other=20% chance to flinch|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
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There is also Egg Bomb - 10 PP, 100 power, 75% accuracy, but no additional effect.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comments? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 21:50, 20 July 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I disagree. They have significantly different additional effects, which all have different chances of occurring. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 03:35, 21 July 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::So do the listed variations of Blizzard, Crunch, and Waterfall. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 05:13, 21 July 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Head Charge ==&lt;br /&gt;
Is the a reason why Head Charge isn&#039;t listed as a variant of Double Edge? Or can I add it to the table? [[User:Megalorex|Megalorex]] ([[User talk:Megalorex|talk]]) 12:35, 9 December 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The amount of recoil differs. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 07:09, 10 December 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Oops, was looking at the gen 1 summary [[User:Megalorex|Megalorex]] ([[User talk:Megalorex|talk]]) 11:50, 10 December 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sludge and Heat wave ==&lt;br /&gt;
I think that these two moves are variations because they share the same 95 power,10 PP,100% accuracy,the same 10% chance for a second effect, and can hit all nearby foes. Would you guys agree? [[User:CoolMan6001|CoolMan6001]] ([[User talk:CoolMan6001|talk]]) 03:45, 7 March 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Actually heat wave has 90% not 100% [[User:CoolMan6001|CoolMan6001]] ([[User talk:CoolMan6001|talk]]) 13:14, 30 March 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== PP variation in both directions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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After some debate about whether or not PP should matter, it was agreed upon that it wouldn&#039;t as long as it was within 5. This created a problem in Generation VI with variations of {{m|Strength}}. Strength has 15 PP, some of its variations have 20 PP, but {{m|Dazzling Gleam}} has 10 yet is similar enough in every other way to be rightly included. It only differs from the &amp;quot;base&amp;quot; move by 5; however it is in a different direction than the other variations. Excluding Dazzling Gleam would be as absurd as adding it but excluding {{m|Power Gem}} and {{m|Drill Peck}}. For this reason, I&#039;ve added it, and strongly feel it should stay. (This issue may arise with other moves I haven&#039;t looked at yet, in which case I&#039;ll do the same thing). Some may point out that Dazzling Gleam differs in being able to affect multiple targets. However, this has never been an issue with variations, because {{m|Blizzard}} does the same thing. I see no reason not to include it. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:05, 8 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Different targeting is supposed to preclude moves from being variations, but it seems variations ignoring targeting have crept in over time. Ideally they would all be weeded out... --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 05:06, 9 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I disagree wholeheartedly. If we did that, we&#039;d have to split Acid&#039;s variations into two groups: one for {{m|Acid}}, {{m|Bubble}}, and {{m|Powder Snow}} (which affect multiple targets), and one for {{m|Ember}} and {{m|Thunder Shock}} (which don&#039;t). {{m|Blizzard}} would also be removed from the list including {{m|Thunder}} and {{m|Hurricane}} (despite the moves being basically perfect examples of variations otherwise. I don&#039;t think it would make sense to do this, as these are all still variations in every other way. And targeting shouldn&#039;t be terribly relevant here, as it is irrelevant in single battles, which comprise an &#039;&#039;extreme&#039;&#039; majority of all in-game battles. Perhaps if there are only two moves in question and they have different targeting, it might make more sense. But when we&#039;re talking affecting the lists I mentioned (and probably several more), I think it&#039;s just a step too far. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:39, 10 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Gender unknown</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Deletion */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The question, is this programmed into the games? Far as I knew, the egg groups are taken from the actual game programming, and the Pokémon that are genderless can&#039;t breed with anything but Ditto. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 02:08, 27 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well? &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:18, 28 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*taps foot*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; I&#039;m waaaaaaiting. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Dunno?--[[User:Kuki|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#b00000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Kuki&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kuki|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2c41a4;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Ta&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#049440;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;lk&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:09, 5 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::He,he, nevermind, I found it (stupid me).  So, TTEchidna, how&#039;s my sprites?[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 00:17, 5 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What now? &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:37, 5 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Anyway... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Seriously, is this programmed into the games, or is it more of a subcategory for genderless Pokémon that can breed? &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 03:45, 5 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:i dont think this is programed into the games, but, it should probably be mentioned. after all, a Magnemite and Geodude are in the same group (mineral) but they cant breed together. -- &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAG&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#696969;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 03:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remove genderless Pokemon from other egg group pages?==&lt;br /&gt;
Yes or no? [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 09:35, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No. They&#039;re in those egg groups according to the game programming. This page exists because Nintendo knew there&#039;d be a bunch of people writing letters and saying &amp;quot;Y CANT MY MAGENMIT BRED W/ MY STELIX?!&amp;quot;, and so listed the genderless breeders separately in Stadium 2. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 14:10, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Trivia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The trivia section states that all members belong only to this group, yet they are still listed among the other egg groups as well.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;midnightblue&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;$aturn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;¥oshi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;maroon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE VOICES&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:29, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s because they &#039;&#039;are&#039;&#039; in the other groups. This comes from stupid Stadium 2&#039;s stupid classification because Pokémon fans have demonstrated [[the truck|time]] and [[Form differences#Shaymin|again]] that there&#039;s nothing dumber than we are. They likely made up that listing because they didn&#039;t want people to be whining about not being able to breed their Onix with a Magneton. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 22:37, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::...why, exactly, are you fixating on that combination? --[[User:Martonimos|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#008000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Martonimos&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:Martonimos|((&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#00FF00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Argh&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#50C878&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blargh&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;))]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 22:40, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Because it&#039;s a convenient one? I&#039;m not gonna go say &amp;quot;Y KANT MI GARDEVOUR BRED W/ MY ROTTOM&amp;quot; because Garde and Rotom get enough questions about their egg groups...&lt;br /&gt;
:::Specifically why Garde&#039;s not in Humanshape and if Rotom&#039;s a legendary. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 22:48, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I&#039;m not saying that they &#039;&#039;shouldn&#039;t&#039;&#039; be listed in other groups, just that the trivia says they are &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039;.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;midnightblue&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;$aturn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;¥oshi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;maroon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE VOICES&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:47, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Correction.  You sure work faster than I can get my point across...  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;midnightblue&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;$aturn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;¥oshi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;maroon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE VOICES&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:49, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rotom, Manaphy/Phione ==&lt;br /&gt;
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According to the pages, Manaphy/Phione is also in the Water1/Fairy groups, and Rotom is in the Indeterminate group. If these truly belong as part of this egg group, they need to be put in a separate table for &amp;quot;also in other groups&amp;quot;.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 19:03, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Here&#039;s the thing. The &amp;quot;Gender unknown&amp;quot; egg group is simply a listing of the breedable Pokémon which lack genders, because Nintendo thought people were stupid and would attempt to breed Onix and Magnemite. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 22:35, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Well then, the header shouldn&#039;t say &amp;quot;Only in this egg group&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Nevermind.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 18:47, 2 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== ? ==&lt;br /&gt;
Shouldn&#039;t this article be called Gender unknown Pokémon rather than than Gender unknown (egg group)?? why is it an egg group from the first place?--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 08:33, 22 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Stadium 2 listed genderless Pokémon who were able to breed (only with Ditto) as a distinct egg group.  This article is a reflection and extension of that.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:13, 22 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hey guys. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why is this listed as part of the total of egg groups (16), if {{type|???}} isn&#039;t listed as part of the total of types (17)?&lt;br /&gt;
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Could it be that... a der, the ???-type is just like this egg group: a side note. So. I&#039;m saying in the other articles, only count 15 egg groups, mention, like the ???-type, that this is a &amp;quot;special&amp;quot; grouping, but &#039;&#039;not count it&#039;&#039;. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 09:45, 9 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deletion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This does not appear to have been discussed in more than half a decade, so I think our standards have tightened enough since then that it&#039;s worth a second look at this page.&lt;br /&gt;
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(1) First and foremost, since this does not actually exist in any game except Stadium 2, I think this should be deleted and simply mentioned in the Stadium 2 article. At the very least, even if this page isn&#039;t deleted, we need to demote it so it isn&#039;t mentioned as if it was a normal Egg Group and so it doesn&#039;t appear in the Egg Group navigation box. It isn&#039;t a real group, and it doesn&#039;t appear in the games&#039; programming, so I really feel it&#039;s even less canonical than the {{t|Bird}} type, which at least &#039;&#039;was&#039;&#039; actually programmed in even if it was scrapped before release.&lt;br /&gt;
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(2) On a separate note, since this seems to have only existed in Stadium 2, why have we been adding all the genderless breedable Pokémon that have been introduced in Generation III and beyond??? If it&#039;s true that this group only existed in Stadium 2, then &#039;&#039;all those Pokémon have never belonged to this group&#039;&#039; and should in no conceivable way be on this list. This is a ridiculous fanonical overexpansion, and if this page remains I really feel like it should cover &#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039; what is official — the Pokémon that Stadium 2 listed in it.&lt;br /&gt;
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That&#039;s my soapbox. Sorry if it was a bit of a rant. Please discuss. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:41, 5 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:While I fully understand where you&#039;re coming from, I think that genderless breedable Pokémon need to be differentiated in some way. While we&#039;re on this topic, I don&#039;t like how they&#039;re mixed in among other members of their own egg group (such as Mineral), giving them the illusion that they can breed with other members of that group, when they can&#039;t.&lt;br /&gt;
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:What I think would be a fair solution is to delete this page (but perhaps create a &amp;quot;list&amp;quot; page that contains all the Pokémon seen here), and on the individual egg group pages that contain genderless Pokémon, sort them out into a separate table at the bottom. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 07:11, 5 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I have no reason to not delete this page as long as a &amp;quot;list&amp;quot; page replaces it (as already stated). I think it&#039;s important to make a distinction between Undiscovered and Gender Unknown.  &lt;br /&gt;
::Also, I didn&#039;t notice that the liked of Magnemite were listed in their technical egg groups.  I&#039;d say that gender unknown Pokemon ought to have an annotation on their egg group page clarifying that they are unable to breed with the rest of the group.  [[User:FoggyMoor|FoggyMoor]] ([[User talk:FoggyMoor|talk]]) 18:10, 9 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::{{cat|Genderless Pokémon|List}}.&lt;br /&gt;
:::My biggest problem with this is that it adds a &#039;&#039;third&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;Egg Group&amp;quot; to some Pokemon. I mostly think this classification from Stadium 2 could be mentioned on [[Egg Group]] and maybe [[Pokémon Stadium 2]] and that&#039;d be fine.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Alternatively, however, I think it&#039;d also be alright to just remove the &amp;quot;Other&amp;quot; column on this page and that&#039;d address part of my own unease. After all, the point of these Pokemon is that they can only breed with Ditto anyway, it&#039;s not really important what their formal Egg Groups are. On other pages, that column makes plenty of sense; but not here. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:30, 9 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I agree one thousand percent on adding a note to Pokémon who are genderless on their own Egg Group pages. Like a little asterisk after their names stating that they cannot breed (I&#039;d personally prefer genderless Pokémon to have their own separate table on those pages, but whatever). I think it&#039;s IMPERATIVE that such a distinction be made, because of how many times I go to one of those pages to look up potential &amp;quot;fathers&amp;quot; for my breeding and have to sift through Pokémon that cannot breed based on nothing but my memory. And sometimes it&#039;s not easy to remember that Golem has a gender and Cryogonal doesn&#039;t, and things like that. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:30, 10 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<title>Klefki (Pokémon)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Trivia */ While &amp;quot;keychain&amp;quot; is obvious enough, the pagan tradition isn&amp;#039;t conclusive enough to say it&amp;#039;s a definite basis.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Goodra | next=Phantump | type=Steel | type2=Fairy | prevnum=706 | nextnum=708 }}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Pokémon Infobox|&lt;br /&gt;
name=Klefki |&lt;br /&gt;
jname=クレッフィ |&lt;br /&gt;
tmname=Cleffy |&lt;br /&gt;
jtranslit=Kureffi |&lt;br /&gt;
image=707Klefki.png|&lt;br /&gt;
species=Key Ring |&lt;br /&gt;
typebox=1 |&lt;br /&gt;
type1=Steel |&lt;br /&gt;
type2=Fairy |&lt;br /&gt;
abilityn=d |&lt;br /&gt;
ability1=Prankster |&lt;br /&gt;
abilityd=Magician |&lt;br /&gt;
ndex=707 |&lt;br /&gt;
karea=Mountain |&lt;br /&gt;
kdex=050 |&lt;br /&gt;
height-ftin=0&#039;08&amp;quot; |&lt;br /&gt;
height-m=0.2 |&lt;br /&gt;
weight-lbs=6.6 |	&lt;br /&gt;
weight-kg=3.0 |&lt;br /&gt;
egggroupn=1 |&lt;br /&gt;
egggroup1=Mineral |&lt;br /&gt;
gendercode=127|&lt;br /&gt;
eggcycles=21 |&lt;br /&gt;
evtotal=1 |&lt;br /&gt;
evde=1 |&lt;br /&gt;
expyield=165 |&lt;br /&gt;
lv100exp=800,000|&lt;br /&gt;
color=Gray |&lt;br /&gt;
catchrate=75 |&lt;br /&gt;
body=01 |&lt;br /&gt;
pokefordex=klefki |&lt;br /&gt;
generation=6 |&lt;br /&gt;
friendship=70 |&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Klefki&#039;&#039;&#039; ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: &#039;&#039;&#039;クレッフィ&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Cleffy&#039;&#039;) is a dual-type {{2t|Steel|Fairy}} Pokémon.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is not known to [[evolution|evolve]] into or from any other Pokémon.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Biology==&lt;br /&gt;
Klefki is a small, grayish-white Pokémon resembling a key ring with four keys on it. It has a spherical head with a white face and a small, pink oval on its forehead. Two black circles and a keyhole form its eyes and mouth. Below its head is its pink, teardrop-shaped body with a white marking in the middle. Extending from the top of its head is an appendage, which resembles an old-fashioned key with two wide, blunt teeth. A thin loop surrounds Klefki, and connects at either side of the &amp;quot;key&amp;quot;. Hanging from the loop are various keys that this Pokémon has collected. If Klefki finds a key it likes, it will never release it. To threaten attackers, this Pokémon jingles its key collection. Klefki is the [[Signature move|only Pokémon]] capable of learning {{m|Fairy Lock}} and {{m|Crafty Shield}}.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In the anime==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Klefki anime.png|thumb|left|220px|Klefki in the anime]]&lt;br /&gt;
===Major appearances===&lt;br /&gt;
Klefki made its debut appearance in the [[Pikachu short]] &#039;&#039;[[PK26|Pikachu, What&#039;s This Key?]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Klefki debuted in &#039;&#039;[[XY047|Dreaming a Performer&#039;s Dream!]]&#039;&#039;, under the ownership of [[Monsieur Pierre]]. It usually holds onto {{DL|Pokémon Showcase|Princess Key}}s for Monsieur Pierre before they are awarded.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Minor appearances===&lt;br /&gt;
===Pokédex entries===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Animedexheader|Kalos}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Animedexbody|XY060|Klefki|Ash&#039;s Pokédex|Klefki, the Key Ring Pokémon. Klefki loves to collect keys and will confront opponents with a fierce jingle of their collection.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|&#039;&#039;XY&#039;&#039;|Kalos}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In the manga==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Klefki Adventures.png|200px|thumb|right|Klefki in the [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===&lt;br /&gt;
A wild Klefki debuted in the {{chap|X &amp;amp; Y}}, which [[Grace (Kalos)|Grace]] had befriended. It helped her break free from her cells numerous times, and later helped free the Vaniville Town residents by stealing the keys of a sleeping [[Team Flare Grunt]] and using them to open their cells.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This Klefki later acquainted itself with {{adv|X}} and his friends, giving X [[Clemont]]&#039;s glasses and allowing him to deduce the location of Team Flare&#039;s base. He eventually set off without informing the others.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Let&#039;s Play the Pokémon Card Game XY! manga===&lt;br /&gt;
A Klefki appeared in Let&#039;s Play the Pokémon Card Game XY!.&lt;br /&gt;
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==In the TCG==&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Klefki (TCG)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Game data==&lt;br /&gt;
===Pokédex entries===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Dex/Header|type=steel|type2=fairy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Dex/NA|gen=VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Dex/Gen|gen=VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Dex/Entry1|v=X|t=FFF|entry=These key collectors threaten any attackers by fiercely jingling their keys at them.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Y|entry=It never lets go of a key that it likes, so people give it the keys to vaults and safes as a way to prevent crime.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Omega Ruby|t=FFF|entry=These key collectors threaten any attackers by fiercely jingling their keys at them.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Alpha Sapphire|t=FFF|entry=It never lets go of a key that it likes, so people give it the keys to vaults and safes as a way to prevent crime.}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Dex/Footer}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Game locations===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Availability/Header|type=steel|type2=fairy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Availability/NA|gen=VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Availability/Gen|gen=VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Availability/Entry2|v=X|v2=Y|t=FFF|area=[[Route]]s {{rtn|15|Kalos}} and {{rtn|16|Kalos}}, [[Lost Hotel]], [[Friend Safari]] ([[Friend Safari#Steel-type Safari|Steel]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Availability/Entry2|v=Omega Ruby|v2=Alpha Sapphire|t=FFF|t2=FFF|area={{rt|113|Hoenn}} ({{DL|DexNav|hidden Pokémon}}{{tt|*|After capturing or defeating Groudon/Kyogre}})}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Availability/Footer}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====In side games====&lt;br /&gt;
{{Availability/Header|type=Steel|type2=Fairy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Availability/NA|gen=VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Availability/Gen|gen=VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Battle Trozei|color={{defense color}}|area=[[Infinite Ruins#Stage 2|Infinite Ruins: Stage 2]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Shuffle|color={{beauty color}}|area=[[Sandy Bazaar|Sandy Bazaar: Stage 18]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Rumble World|color={{fire color}}|area=[[Fairy Land#Ancient Stronghold|Fairy Land: Ancient Stronghold]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(All Areas)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Picross|color={{skill color light}}|area={{DL|Pokémon Picross Stages|Area 03}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Availability/Footer}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Stats===&lt;br /&gt;
====Base stats====&lt;br /&gt;
{{Base Stats|&lt;br /&gt;
type=Steel|&lt;br /&gt;
type2=Fairy|&lt;br /&gt;
HP=57|&lt;br /&gt;
Attack=80|&lt;br /&gt;
Defense=91|&lt;br /&gt;
SpAtk=80|&lt;br /&gt;
SpDef=87|&lt;br /&gt;
Speed=75}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Type effectiveness===&lt;br /&gt;
{{TypeEffectiveness|&lt;br /&gt;
type1=Steel|&lt;br /&gt;
type2=Fairy|&lt;br /&gt;
Normal=   50 |&lt;br /&gt;
Flying=   50 |&lt;br /&gt;
Fighting=100 |&lt;br /&gt;
Ground=  200 |&lt;br /&gt;
Rock=     50 |&lt;br /&gt;
Bug=      25 |&lt;br /&gt;
Poison=    0 |&lt;br /&gt;
Ghost=   100 |&lt;br /&gt;
Steel=   100 |&lt;br /&gt;
Fire=    200 |&lt;br /&gt;
Water=   100 |&lt;br /&gt;
Grass=    50 |&lt;br /&gt;
Electric=100 |&lt;br /&gt;
Psychic=  50 |&lt;br /&gt;
Ice=      50 |&lt;br /&gt;
Dragon=    0 |&lt;br /&gt;
Dark=     50 |&lt;br /&gt;
Fairy=    50 |&lt;br /&gt;
notes=yes|&lt;br /&gt;
steel=yes|&lt;br /&gt;
fairy=yes|&lt;br /&gt;
newpoison=2|&lt;br /&gt;
newdragon=½}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Learnset===&lt;br /&gt;
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====&lt;br /&gt;
{{Learnlist/levelh/6|Klefki|Steel|Fairy|6|xy=n}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/level6|1|Fairy Lock|Fairy|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|10|||Clever|3|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/level6|1|Tackle|Normal|Physical|50|100|35|||Tough|4|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/level6|5|Fairy Wind|Fairy|Special|40|100|30||&#039;&#039;&#039;|Beautiful|4|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/level6|8|Astonish|Ghost|Physical|30|100|15|||Cute|2|3}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/level6|12|Metal Sound|Steel|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|85|40|||Clever|1|3}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/level6|15|Spikes|Ground|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|20|||Clever|2|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/level6|18|Draining Kiss|Fairy|Special|50|100|10||&#039;&#039;&#039;|Cute|1|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/level6|23|Crafty Shield|Fairy|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|10|||Clever|3|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/level6|27|Foul Play|Dark|Physical|95|100|15|||Clever|1|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/level6|32|Torment|Dark|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|100|15|||Tough|2|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/level6|34|Mirror Shot|Steel|Special|65|85|10||&#039;&#039;&#039;|Beautiful|2|3}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/level6|36|Imprison|Psychic|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|10|||Clever|3|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/level6|40|Recycle|Normal|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|10|||Clever|1|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/level6|43|Play Rough|Fairy|Physical|90|90|10||&#039;&#039;&#039;|Cute|3|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/level6|44|Magic Room|Psychic|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|10|||Clever|3|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/level6|50|Heal Block|Psychic|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|100|15|||Clever|3|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/levelf/6|Klefki|Steel|Fairy|6}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tmh/6|Klefki|Steel|Fairy|6|xy=n}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM03|Psyshock|Psychic|Special|80|100|10|||Beautiful|1|4}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM04|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|20|||Clever|1|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|90|10|||Clever|3|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|60|100|15|||Clever|3|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|5|||Beautiful|1|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|||Cool|4|4}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM16|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|30|||Beautiful|2|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|10|||Cute|2|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|5|||Beautiful|1|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|25|||Beautiful|2|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|&amp;amp;mdash;|100|20|||Cute|2|3}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|&amp;amp;mdash;|100|20|||Cute|4|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM29|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|||Clever|4|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|15|||Cool|1|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM33|Reflect|Psychic|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|20|||Clever|2|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM41|Torment|Dark|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|100|15|||Tough|2|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|||Cute|2|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|10|||Cute|1|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|100|15|||Cute|2|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM46|Thief|Dark|Physical|60|100|25|||Tough|1|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15|||Beautiful|2|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM68|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|||Tough|4|4}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM73|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|100|20|||Cool|1|3}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|10|||Clever|2|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|90|15|||Cute|3|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM88|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|10|||Cute|1|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|10|||Cute|2|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM91|Flash Cannon|Steel|Special|80|100|10||&#039;&#039;&#039;|Beautiful|4|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM94|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|{{sup/6|ORAS}}||Clever|1|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM99|Dazzling Gleam|Fairy|Special|80|100|10||&#039;&#039;&#039;|Beautiful|4|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|TM100|Confide|Normal|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|20|||Cute|3|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tm6|HM01|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30|||Cool|4|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tmf/6|Klefki|Steel|Fairy|6}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/breedh/6|Klefki|Steel|Fairy|6|xy=n}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/breed6|{{MSP|476|Probopass}}{{MSP|524|Roggenrola}}{{MSP|525|Boldore}}{{MSP|526|Gigalith}}{{MSP|597|Ferroseed}}{{MSP|598|Ferrothorn}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{MSP|679|Honedge}}{{MSP|680|Doublade}}{{MSP|681|Aegislash}}|Iron Defense|Steel|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|15|||Tough|1|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/breed6|{{MSP|299|Nosepass}}{{MSP|476|Probopass}}|Lock-On|Normal|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|5|||Clever|3|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/breed6|{{MSP|361|Snorunt}}|Switcheroo|Dark|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|100|10|*||Clever|2|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/breed6|{{MSP|185|Sudowoodo}}{{MSP|562|Yamask}}{{MSP|563|Cofagrigus}}{{MSP|568|Trubbish}}{{MSP|569|Garbodor}}{{MSP|707|Klefki}}|Thief|Dark|Physical|60|100|25|||Tough|1|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/breedf/6|Klefki|Steel|Fairy|6}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tutorh/6|Klefki|Steel|Fairy|6|xy=n}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tutor6|Covet|Normal|Physical|60|100|25|||no|yes|Cute|1|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tutor6|Foul Play|Dark|Physical|95|100|15|||no|yes|Clever|1|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tutor6|Iron Defense|Steel|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|15|||no|yes|Tough|1|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tutor6|Last Resort|Normal|Physical|140|100|5|||no|yes|Cute|1|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tutor6|Magic Coat|Psychic|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|15|||no|yes|Beautiful|2|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tutor6|Magic Room|Psychic|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|10|||no|yes|Clever|3|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tutor6|Magnet Rise|Electric|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|10|||no|yes|Clever|2|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tutor6|Recycle|Normal|Status|&amp;amp;mdash;|&amp;amp;mdash;|10|||no|yes|Clever|1|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tutor6|Snore|Normal|Special|50|100|15|||no|yes|Cute|4|0}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{learnlist/tutorf/6|Klefki|Steel|Fairy|6}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Sprites===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Spritebox/Header|type=steel|type2=fairy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Spritebox/NA|gen=VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Spritebox/6|ndex=707}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Spritebox/Footer|707|Klefki}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* Klefki is the shortest {{type|Steel}} Pokémon.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Origin===&lt;br /&gt;
Klefki is based on a keychain, and possibly also the pagan tradition of blaming fairies for the loss of small objects, like shoes and keys.&lt;br /&gt;
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It may also be based on the superstition of carrying an iron charm to ward off fae mischief.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Name origin====&lt;br /&gt;
Klefki is a combination of &#039;&#039;clef&#039;&#039; (French for key) or a corruption of &#039;&#039;kleptomaniac&#039;&#039; (in reference to its habit of collecting keys) and &#039;&#039;key&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Cleffy is derived from &#039;&#039;clef&#039;&#039; (French for key).&lt;br /&gt;
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==In other languages==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Other languages|type=Steel|type2=Fairy&lt;br /&gt;
|ja=クレッフィ &#039;&#039;Cleffy&#039;&#039;|jameaning=From &#039;&#039;{{tt|clef|French for key}}&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|fr=Trousselin|frmeaning=From &#039;&#039;{{tt|trousseau|keychain}}&#039;&#039; and  &#039;&#039;{{tt|gobelin|goblin}}&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|es=Klefki|esmeaning=Same as English name&lt;br /&gt;
|de=Clavion|demeaning=From &#039;&#039;{{tt|clāvis|Latin for key}}&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|it=Klefki|itmeaning=Same as English name&lt;br /&gt;
|ko=클레피 &#039;&#039;Keullepi&#039;&#039;|komeaning=Transliteration of its Japanese name&lt;br /&gt;
|zh_yue=鎖圈兒 &#039;&#039;Sóhyūnyìh&#039;&#039;|zh_yuemeaning=From {{tt|鎖圈 &#039;&#039;sóhyūn&#039;&#039;|keyring}} and {{tt|兒 &#039;&#039;yìh&#039;&#039;|diminutive suffix meaning child}}&lt;br /&gt;
|zh_cmn=鑰圈兒 &#039;&#039;Yàoquānér&#039;&#039;|zh_cmnmeaning=From {{tt|鑰匙圈 &#039;&#039;yàoshíquān &#039;&#039;|keyring}} and {{tt|兒 &#039;&#039;ér&#039;&#039;|diminutive suffix meaning child}}&lt;br /&gt;
|hi=क्लेफकी &#039;&#039;Klefki&#039;&#039;|himeaning=Transcription of English name&lt;br /&gt;
|ru=Клефки &#039;&#039;Klefki&#039;&#039;|rumeaning=Transliteration of English name&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Goodra | next=Phantump | type=Steel | type2=Fairy | prevnum=706 | nextnum=708 }}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Project Pokédex notice}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[de:Clavion]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[fr:Trousselin]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[it:Klefki]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[ja:クレッフィ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[pl:Klefki]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[zh:钥圈儿]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Signature move/Archive 1</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Discuss please: Move Tutor vs. level-up */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Elemental Hyper Beams==&lt;br /&gt;
In Gen. III, only Charizard, Venusaur and Blastoise could learn [[Blast Burn]], [[Frenzy Plant]] and [[Hydro Cannon]], respectively. The Johto starters could learn it too, but only by being traded from XD (just like [[Lugia]] and [[Psycho Boost]]). Should the 3 HB variations be included in this list, since other &amp;quot;former&amp;quot; signature moves are also included?--[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 02:12, 28 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Feel free to add it at the bottom of the page, but note that all the fully-evolved starters can learn them in Generation IV. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 00:11, 4 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::You know, there&#039;s not really too much of a point to replying to topics well over a month old. --[[User:Martonimos|((&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#008000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Marton&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Martonimos|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#50C878&amp;quot;&amp;gt;imos&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;))]] 00:23, 4 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Skarmory?==&lt;br /&gt;
Should Skarmory with Steel Wing be included here? After all, it is the only Pokemon that can learn it naturally.&lt;br /&gt;
:That would be a good case to make. Question is, how many others do that? &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;E&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 03:14, 15 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Hitmonlee with {{M|Mega Kick}} [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 03:56, 15 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::And I&#039;m sure there are more, like Hitmonchan and {{m|Vacuum Wave}}.  I, too, am used to call moves &amp;quot;signature&amp;quot; when they&#039;re exclusive to few by leveling up. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:55, 18 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
What about [[Porygon-Z]] and [[Trick Room]]? Though Trick Room is a [[TM]], only Porygon-Z learns it naturally. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 17:55, 25 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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What about [[Metagross]] and [[Meteor Mash]]?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Mooshykris|Mooshykris]] 22:02, 20 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Clefairy]] learns [[Meteor Mash]], though...hardly exclusive...&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Myrmidon|Myrmidom]]&lt;br /&gt;
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And [[Chimchar]] with [[Facade]], this is the same scenario as [[Trick Room]]. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 15:18, 21 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Level-up otherwise exclusive to TMs? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Okay, I just wanted to organize what&#039;s been said above. What we have so far is...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| border=1 align=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background: #C0C0FF;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! [[TM]] or [[HM]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Move]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Pokémon]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Level]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Generation]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | [[TM01]]&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{m|Focus Punch}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{p|Vigoroth}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 43&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 43&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM21]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Frustration}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Buneary}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 13&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM27]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Return}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Lopunny}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 13&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM42]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Facade}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Chimchar}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 31&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot; | [[TM47]]&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot; | {{m|Steel Wing}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot; | {{p|Skarmory}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 49&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 32&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 38&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[HM05]] ([[Generation III]])&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{m|Flash}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{p|Volbeat}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | --&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM70]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM72]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Avalanche}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Smoochum}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 31&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM72]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Avalanche}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Jynx}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 33&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM92]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Trick Room}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Porygon-Z}}&lt;br /&gt;
| --&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | [[HM07]]&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | {{m|Waterfall}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | {{p|Goldeen}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 37&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 38&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 38&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 37&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | [[HM07]]&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | {{m|Waterfall}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | {{p|Seaking}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 39&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 41&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 41&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 40&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;all&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If anyone thinks of any others, go on and add them in here. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;E&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 23:54, 21 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: As I said above, Hitmonlee with {{M|Mega Kick}}.  [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 01:52, 22 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I placed it [[#Level-up_otherwise_exclusive_to_Move_Tutors.3F|here]] so that we stay in a [[Generation III]]/[[Generation IV|IV]] scope. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 04:22, 22 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Uh, Raquazza and Fly! Only he learns through level up!--&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A020F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Quick Man|Quick Man]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 12:57, 15 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*coughs* Salamence. That&#039;s like his family&#039;s evolution story line. And I think it should be at least mentioned about Abra, and how he only uses Teleport.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Read [[Salamence#Learnset|this]] [[User:Kkllnn|Blastoise RULZ]] 20:03, 12 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Meowth&#039;s Pay Day (Generation I&#039;s TM16) should probably be in this section as well... [[User:Blue Charizard|Blue Charizard]] 18:00, 2 April 2010&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Level-up otherwise exclusive to Move Tutors? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This might be useful if &amp;quot;signature move&amp;quot; is furtherly redefined. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 04:21, 22 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| border=1 align=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background: #C0C0FF;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Move]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Pokémon]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Level]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Generation]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | {{m|Mega Kick}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | {{p|Hitmonlee}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 53&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 46&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 46&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 49&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;all&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Level-up otherwise exclusive to breeding? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the article, {{m|Octazooka}} is listed as being signature of only {{p|Octillery}}, and {{m|Present}} is listed as being signature of only {{p|Delibird}} (just to mention some), which is true only if the definition of &amp;quot;signature moves&amp;quot; includes this type of moves. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 06:06, 22 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| border=1 align=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background: #C0C0FF;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Move]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Pokémon]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Level]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Generation]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{m|Icicle Spear}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{p|Shellder}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 8&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}} ([[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|FR/LG]])&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 13&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{m|SmellingSalt}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{p|Makuhita}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 31&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 22&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{m|SmellingSalt}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{p|Hariyama}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 33&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 22&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Vacuum Wave}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Hitmonchan}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 26&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;all&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== About evolved forms ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Should stone-induced evolved forms be listed?  {{p|Pikachu}} and {{p|Raichu}} appear in the article.  However, the species that actually learns {{m|Volt Tackle}} is {{p|Pichu}} (making the [[Pokémon Battle Revolution#Colosseums|Battle Revolution Pikachu]] a [[Signature move#Trivia|trivia section]] material).  If Raichu can appear in the list, then {{p|Togekiss}} and {{p|Mismagius}} should, too. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:36, 22 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, I think that only the Pokémon that learns the move should be listed. So Pichu should be listed, but it&#039;s evolutions shouldn&#039;t. Only if the evolution learns the move then they an be listed. So both Cubone and Marowak learn Bonemerang, therefore both should be listed. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF594F;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESH&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User Talk:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#5FA7C6;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TALK&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 15:57, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Splash?==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Would [[Splash (move)|Splash]] be eligible for inclusion here? A bunch of Pokémon can learn the move nowadays, but back in Generation I it was very much [[Magikarp (Pokémon)|Magikarp]]&#039;s trademark. A similar case is already included on the list (Petal Dance, which was exclusive to the Oddish line in Generation I). [[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]] 08:48, 20 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re right, according to the current status of the article.  But I think that kind of moves shouldn&#039;t appear in the list.  IMO, in any case, [[Generation III]] stuff is the only past generation that should be mentioned, as it&#039;s compatible with [[Generation IV]], but I still don&#039;t like the idea.&lt;br /&gt;
:I take it this all started with the ExtremeSpeed Dratini from the trivia section, right?  Well, that Dratini is obsolete, too.  I propose we get rid of ExtremeSpeed Dratini and there won&#039;t be need for the ExtremeSpeed Arcanine and the other obsolete groups. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:18, 20 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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NO! Lol, we should split this article into each Generation, with a trivia section for Pokémon that do not learn a move naturally. Like Dratini in GenII. I think this would be better. &amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F05030;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESH&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User Talk:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#5C8CFA;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TALK&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User:Tesh/Other|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#EEC226;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;FUN&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; 16:20, 20 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah... one of the things I was going to suggest was listing the likes of Splash, ExtremeSpeed and so on in a seperate table, for moves that were once exclusive to a single line, but aren&#039;t anymore. I think these moves are certainly worth mentioning somewhere in the article, as they might still be relevant to someone who&#039;s playing any of the older games. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:Bikini Miltank|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#ff7755&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Moo, I say.&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:33, 20 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::You mean like {{p|Blaziken}}&#039;s {{m|Blaze Kick}}? &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot; color:navy&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Hi&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:03, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Splash/Magikarp should be there, and Blaze Kick/Blaziken should have been there ages ago! &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Magnemite ==&lt;br /&gt;
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ok, sorry about that, but i think Zap Cannon should at least be there, other than the TM, only it and Porygon could learn it in Gen II. on that note, hows about Magnet Bomb, which only they and Nosepass/Probopass can learn? &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 04:59, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Skay. Magnet Bomb, however.. I think we should add that. [[User:Tina|Tina]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::idk, i still think Zap Cannon should be there. i didnt even know Porygon could learn it untill a few mins ago. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:06, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::As of GenIV, 13 Pokémon can learn Zap Cannon.. [[User:Tina|Tina]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::As in check the {{m|Zap Cannon}} page...&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot; color:navy&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Hi&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:12, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::ok, i thought there were notes for previous Gens. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:20, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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now wait a minute...Tina agreed that Magnet Bomb should be added as a sig move. besides, the page even says, &amp;quot;can only be learned by a single Pokémon &#039;&#039;&#039;or a very small select group of Pokémon&#039;&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot; both Magnemite and Probopass are Steel with magnet-ness. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:29, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::So? That would mean I had to kick in the kickingfeet Pokémon and the chicken...Reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
#They don&#039;t seem to be related...&lt;br /&gt;
#Five Pokémon isn&#039;t a small group&lt;br /&gt;
#Tina agreed, so I&#039;m saying the opposite...&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot; color:navy&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Hi&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:31, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::well...&lt;br /&gt;
::#they are related, magnet-ness alnog with both lvling up at Coronet&lt;br /&gt;
::#its technically only 2 Pokemon, Magnemite and Probopass, the page lists Mag&#039;s evo line and Probopass twice (for some reason)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:37, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ack! You win...&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot; color:navy&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Hi&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:39, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::i didnt fight because its Magnemite, i just fought for the truth! that being said, i still think Blaziken should be on there with a note about Gen 3 or somthing. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:43, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Capitalized please...Hitmonlee and Blaziken seems select enough...&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot; color:navy&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Hi&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Splitting ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This page needs to be split up into Generations I think. There are too many prior to Genration IV. [[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B7AD96;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESHIGIGAS&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[Image:486MS.png|RAWR!!]] 20:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, No. That&#039;s not needed. It&#039;s fine how it is. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Theryguy512|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF7F00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Theryguy&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Theryguy512|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#5C8CFA&amp;quot;&amp;gt;5&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#5C8CFA&amp;quot;&amp;gt;1&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#5C8CFA&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:22, 8 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::But then we could sychronise the trivia into it as well. [[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B7AD96;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESHIGIGAS&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[Image:486MS.png|RAWR!!]] 18:11, 9 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Small group? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since Mathis seems to have decided to take a chainsaw to the list, I have to ask: How big is a &amp;quot;small group&amp;quot; of Pokémon? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:24, 12 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:small group denotes 2 evo lines. so, as seen above, with {{m|Magnet Bomb}}, only two pokemon can learn it, with the exception of their own evos. -- &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAG&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#696969;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 19:31, 12 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Ok. *points at the top of the page* What about {{m|Meteor Mash}} then? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 00:45, 13 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::well, somone should add that to the page. along with the others in my opinion. though, it could be argued that Math earlier had the right idea. super exclusive only. -- &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAG&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#696969;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:55, 13 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Staryu ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In Generation III, [[Staryu]] was the only Pokemon who could learn [[Camouflage (move)|Camouflage]]. [[Mothim]] can now learn it in Gen IV. Nevertheless, I would assume that Staryu would count as a Pokémon with a signature move before Gen IV. -[[User:TIMMY|TIMMY]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: Added.  [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 20:31, 13 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Really, exactly two Pokemon knowing a move is still pretty exclusive. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 09:07, 14 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::We&#039;re still missing {{p|Mothim}} on there though...I guess I&#039;ll add it unless anyone has any objections...[[User:Ht14|ht14]] 00:35, 16 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Skitty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, Skitty (and Delecatty, but Skitty Evolves into that) were the only ones to know assist until Generation IV, I think Skitty deserves a mention (Delecatty doesn&#039;t scince she only learns VIA from Skitty knowing before evelution).--&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A020F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Quick Man|Quick Man]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 13:26, 14 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cleanup ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article NEEDS some cleanup... some signature moves don&#039;t make sense and some are in a lot of pokemon, so they should be removed. I think if a pokemon prior to Gen IV now learns a GEN IV move, it shouldn&#039;t be mentioned, &#039;cause it&#039;s obvious that another pokemon will learn the same move (for example Relicanth that learns [[Head Smash (move)|Cranidos&#039; signature]]. in that case Relicanth should be removed). If someone doesn&#039;t agree with me, then just undo it. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:47, 9 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s fine. &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#4B0082&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Pachirisulover12|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFD700&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PL&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFA500&amp;quot;&amp;gt;12&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:48, 9 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::It&#039;s fine if it&#039;s only one or two different evolution families. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 04:04, 9 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Crush Grip ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What about the Combusken who has Crush Grip in PBR {{unsigned|Tannerbro}}&lt;br /&gt;
:That Combusken is unobtainable &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 18:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I have seen no proof that exsits. Can someone (an admin) hide that comment until there is a picture or video shown so we can back up such a far fetched claim? [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 02:47, 4 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, hiding comments is virtually the same as deleting them, which isn&#039;t allowed. &#039;&#039;[[User:Moldy orange|&amp;lt;sup style=&amp;quot;color:#4B5320;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Moldy&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Moldy orange|&amp;lt;sub style=&amp;quot;color:#ED9121;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Orange&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039; 02:48, 4 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I&#039;m actually now wondering if this person was mistaking Crush Grip for the breedable {{m|Crush Claw}}... &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 01:14, 16 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Meteor Mash ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Meteor Mash should definitely be included, like only 2 pokémon lines can learn it, and like skull bash, is listed here which also has 2 pokémon lines so why shouldn&#039;t Meteor Mash be? And why is some Hitmonlee&#039;s and other POkemon&#039;s moves are asterixed when Medicham later on has Hi Jump Kick and isnt asterixed?? It should only be asterixed when the sig move has gone completely over eg extremespeed which the others rayquaza etc arent listed... ... [[User:Wowy|--&amp;amp;lt;large&amp;amp;gt; &amp;amp;quot;&amp;amp;#91;&amp;amp;#91;User:WoWy&amp;amp;#124;&amp;amp;lt;font color=&amp;amp;quot;blue&amp;amp;quot;;&amp;amp;gt;WoWy&amp;amp;lt;/font&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;#93;&amp;amp;#93;&amp;amp;quot;&amp;amp;lt;/large&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;#39;&amp;amp;#39;(&amp;amp;#91;&amp;amp;#91;User talk:Wowy&amp;amp;#124;&amp;amp;lt;font color=&amp;amp;quot;green&amp;amp;quot;;&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;lt;&amp;amp;lt;/font&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;#93;&amp;amp;#93;)&amp;amp;#39;&amp;amp;#39;]] 05:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)Wowy&lt;br /&gt;
:I think this article is the most controvesrial thing... I think that a signature move should be a move that onle ONE Pokémon learns... I mean these are the REAL signature moves:&lt;br /&gt;
:*Volt Tackle (Pikachu family)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Pay Day (Meowth)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Kinesis (Kadabra and Alakazam)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Barrage (Exeggcute family)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Bone Club (Cubone and Marowak)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Lovely Kiss (Smoochum and Jynx)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Conversion, Conversion2 and Sharpen (Porygons)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Spider Web (Spinarak and Ariados)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Pain Split (Misdreavus)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Octazooka (Octillery)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Present (Delibird)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Sketch (Smeargle)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Triple Kick (Hitmontop)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Milk Drink (Miltank)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Aeroblast (Lugia)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Sacred Fire (Ho-Oh)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Arm Thrust (Makuhita and Hariyama)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Teeter Dance (Spinda)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Poison Tail (Seviper)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Ice Ball (Spheal family)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Mist Ball (Latias)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Luster Purge (Latios)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Doom Desire (Jirachi)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Psycho Boost (Deoxys)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Attack, Defend and Heal Orders (Vespiqueen)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Chatter (Chatot)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Rock Wrecker (Rhyperior)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Roar of Time (Dialga)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Spacial Rend (Palkia)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Magma Storm (Heatran)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Crush Grip (Regigigas)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Shadow Force (Giratina)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Lunar Dance (Cresselia)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Heart Swap (Manaphy)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Dark Void (Darkrai)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Seed Flare (Shaymin)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Judgement (Arceus)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Any other move should not be in the list, because more than a family learns it. Remember that a signature is something that&#039;s from your own and no one else. That&#039;s why repeated moves should not be in the list. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 18:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I agree with this.  Also, {{m|Bonemerang}} is another exclusive move to the {{p|Cubone}} family.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#003366&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;$aturn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#008000&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;¥oshi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#800000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE VOICES&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:55, 23 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Moves===&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ll add Splash becoz only Magikarp had Splash in Gen I with an asterix sign, while Meteor Mash also becoz there are some moves listed here that have more than one move per pokémon, usally two. And who said that only one family needs a signature move and when it has two it&#039;s not. I&#039;ve never seen any official guide saying that. And Icicle Spear, Smelligsalt and Vacuum Wave I&#039;ll add becoz Octazooka is here which can also be bred. These moves are VERY free to undo if u wish. Oh and i&#039;ll add assist with an asterix as only skitty can learn in Gen III--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 07:17, 14 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Signature moves can be bred, that&#039;s obvious, but no Pokémon can normally learn them. This article NEEDS to be redone. &#039;nuff said. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 12:56, 14 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== waterfall ==&lt;br /&gt;
I see someone&#039;s cleaned it up but waterfall should be included but with an * coz ONLY goldeen and seaking learnt in Gen I coz it wasnt a TM/HM there could be more moves like this--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 23:47, 1 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I also noticed mimic is a signatre move for sudowoodo, however in ONLY generation II because in Generation I it was a TM, I&#039;m not sure about MIMIC--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 23:50, 1 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::What about {{m|featherDance}}?--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 06:15, 6 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fact ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could someone add that signature moves are recommended for the pokemon learning them. Also, you forgot about the legendaries. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;- &#039;&#039;unsigned comment from [[User:Xknight 511|Xknight 511]] ([[User talk:Xknight 511|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xknight 511|contribs]]){{ #if:  | &amp;amp;#32;{{{2}}} |}}&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:In some cases they aren&#039;t. Take for example Ho-Oh in Gen II and III. He has Higher Attack than Sp. Atk, but his Signature move focuses in Sp. Atk. So it depends on the trainer. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 07:01, 6 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sorted by generation? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How ab out instead of making it so pokemon has a note saying when the move isn&#039;t signature, we make a page or section on this page for each generation? [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 15:22, 6 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you mean have sections like &amp;quot;Signature moves in Generation I&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Signature moves in Generation II&amp;quot;? If so, I think that&#039;s a great idea. [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 15:39, 6 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think that&#039; s very good idea too. [[User:RikkiKitsune|Rikki Kitsune]] 19:28, 17 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;ve been working on this for the past month, using a Word document. But it hasn&#039;t been going so well. You see, some signature moves just came off the top of my head, but I&#039;m having trouble remembering whether or not there are any signature moves other than the ones in my document. But don&#039;t fear, I&#039;ll get it finished soon. --[[user:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF4500;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Baby G]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[user talk:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D1E231;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk to me]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B87333;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;see my edits]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:58, 17 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unprotect please ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Kenji-girl protected this article because she was losing in the edit war. I told her that I promise to stop edit warring, but she&#039;s completely ignoring me. Can someone please unprotect this article? [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 15:38, 6 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Platinum ==&lt;br /&gt;
Should i add Platinum signature moves, coz I added scyther with Vacuum Wave and somone took it off... Look at Serebii and it says it can learn it...--&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Wowy|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color=#E7CE6B&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Wowy&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color=#42528C&amp;quot;&amp;gt;XD&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Wowy|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color=#FFD600&amp;quot;&amp;gt;\⁄&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color=#FF5A00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;!!!&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;-talk&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;  07:08, 15 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, yeah Serebii knows lots of things, but he isn&#039;t very relliable at times... and you NEED to fix your signature!!! &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 22:48, 15 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, Scyther can learn Vacuum Wave via the move relearner in Pastoria, so it is indeed one of Scyther&#039;s moves.--[[User:RiverAura|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;#00ccff&amp;quot;&amp;gt;*River*&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[User_Talk:RiverAura|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;#00ffcc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;*Aura*&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Camouflage ==&lt;br /&gt;
Why Camouflage is here? It can be learned by two pokémon --[[User:CorsolaSplash|CorsolaSplash]] 18:32, 15 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:As long as it&#039;s learnable by a relative few Pokémon (out of 493, two is VERY few), it goes here. I don&#039;t know where we should put the threshold, however, but as long as less than 1% of all Pokémon learn a move (not counting their evolutions) it should go here. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 01:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I kinda think it should be limited to one evolution family, ESPECIALLY if two very unrelated Pokémon (like Scyther and Hitmonlee as mentioned with {{m|Vacuum Wave}} above) both know the move. If you think that&#039;s too extreme/harsh, maybe if two somewhat similar Pokémon both know the move (like if they have common design elements or something). ←{&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Berrymaster|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;purple&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Berr&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;yma&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ster&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]|[[User_talk:Berrymaster|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]|[[Special:Contributions/Berrymaster|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;silver&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Contrib&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;}→ 01:24, 16 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Moves only count as signature moves if only one Pokémon are one evolution family can learn them. Besides, Hitmonchan and Scyther aren&#039;t the only 2 Pokémon that can legitimatelly have Vacuum Wave. About 30 others can learn it from the {{game3|Platinum|Platinum|}} [[move tutor|tutor]]. --[[user:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF4500;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Baby G]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[user talk:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D1E231;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk to me]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B87333;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;see my edits]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:01, 17 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Well, that brings up a similar issue... moves that can be learned other than level-up by many, but level-only for a few. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:06, 17 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I used to think that level up was all that counted, but about a month ago, Kenji-girl said that other methods ({{pkmn|breeding}}, [[TM]]s, etc.) do count when it comes to signature moves. So Vacuum Wave has actually never been Hitmonchan&#039;s signature move, since several others could learn it by breeding before Platinum. --[[user:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF4500;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Baby G]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[user talk:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D1E231;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk to me]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B87333;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;see my edits]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:48, 17 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Transform? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why signature move of {{p|Ditto}} and {{p|Mew}} is the {{m|Transform}} (which is written), a {{m|Fly}} isn&#039;t a signature move of {{p|Salamence}} and {{p|Rayquaza}}. [[User:Era64|Era64]] 11:29, 19 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, for Ditto at least, Transform is its &#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039; move. Mew just has that &amp;quot;DNA of all Pokémon in it&amp;quot; deal that lets him transform.&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;- &#039;&#039;unsigned comment from [[User:Phred|Phred]] ([[User talk:Phred|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Phred|contribs]]){{ #if:  | &amp;amp;#32;{{{2}}} |}}&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::But it&#039;s not a signature move, since more than one Pokémon learns it by level, and Mew and Ditto aren&#039;t in an evolution family. --[[user:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Cho]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[user talk:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;col]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[special:contributions/chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ate]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 20:31, 20 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It&#039;s still a &#039;&#039;small group&#039;&#039; of Pokemon. So it&#039;s limited to who can learn it. Also once again I think this needs to be split into generations. [[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B7AD96;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESH&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User_talk:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B7AD96;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;IGIGAS&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 20:55, 20 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::But Kenji-girl said that signature moves are moves only learned by one Pokémon, or one evolution family. &amp;quot;Small groups&amp;quot; don&#039;t count unless they&#039;re in the same evolution family. Also, I&#039;ve been working on generation splitting for a while now, and I&#039;m almost done. --[[user:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Cho]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[user talk:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;col]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[special:contributions/chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ate]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 20:59, 20 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It does say at the beggining of the page that they &#039;&#039;can only be learned by a single Pokémon or a very small select group of Pokémon&#039;&#039;. So Mew and Transform should be on there. If it&#039;s like 3 Pokemon in different evolution families and it can be bred into others, then it isn&#039;t a signature move really. And thank you for splitting this into generations (when you&#039;re done!). [[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B7AD96;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESH&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User_talk:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B7AD96;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;IGIGAS&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 21:11, 20 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Well, okay, maybe Transform isn&#039;t Mew&#039;s signature move, but it&#039;s surely Ditto&#039;s. I mean, it&#039;s the ONLY thing it can do. --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 23:50, 3 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Lucario==&lt;br /&gt;
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Aura Sphere----[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 17:47, 3 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No. Several others can use it as well. --[[User:Martonimos|((&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#008000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Marton&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Martonimos|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#50C878&amp;quot;&amp;gt;imos&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;))]] 23:53, 3 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::ya but some Pokémon can use other signature moves and pretty much every Lucario in the anime knows it,and I&#039;m not sure why Togekiss learns it all other Pokémon that learn it because their legendary I mean Chimchar gets Blaze Kick by breeding but it&#039;s still Blazikens move------[[user:Ultamatecharizard|AMERICAN ELECTION TODAY!]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Sigh....This is because {{p|Blaziken}} was the only one that could learn it until Gen IV... [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D5AA00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C0C0C0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 19:13, 4 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: Lucario is no more Legendary than Togekiss. Not even more rare. --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 07:26, 6 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Stop Removing Relicanth, Cranidos, Rampardos, and Mothim ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I quote, from the top of the page: &amp;quot;Signature moves are moves that can only be learned by a single Pokémon &#039;&#039;&#039;or a very small select group of Pokémon by level-up&#039;&#039;&#039; (with the exception of Pikachu&#039;s Volt Tackle), usually in the same evolutionary line.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
So stop removing it, ok? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 20:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t understand the idea behind &amp;quot;signature moves&amp;quot; in many evolutionary lines. Okay then, add there every other move that is in very few movepools. You, go then add Hoppip&#039;s Splash in Gen II (there was IIRC only Hoppip and Magikarp back then), Rayquaza&#039;s Extremespeed in Gen III and &#039;&#039;&#039;every friggin other move that is in 2 or 3 movepools&#039;&#039;&#039;, okay? Happy hunting, though it won&#039;t change my mind about the fact that the introduction there is &#039;&#039;&#039;wrong&#039;&#039;&#039;. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3fff00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;UltimateSephiroth&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;about me&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chat&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:15, 16 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Maybe they should be there; I&#039;m personally too lazy to hunt them, and would rather either A) Keep it like it is, or B) get the intro changed, which is what you should do if you think its wrong. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 20:18, 16 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;d do the B) if I could, but I can&#039;t be sure which way (one family or few families) is more common among players and therefore my edit would be opinionated. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3fff00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;UltimateSephiroth&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;about me&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chat&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:22, 16 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I don&#039;t know where the small group of Pokémon came from. That wasn&#039;t my idea of a signature move when I created this page. Maybe if the Pokémon were physically alike it would be okay. But Relicanth, Cranidos, and Mothim have nothing in common. Two different families should be the max if at all. Definitely not three. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 22:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It is two families: Relicanth and Cranidos for Head something or other; Mothim&#039;s being removed for a different move, Camoflouge or however its spelled. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 22:15, 16 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Either way, either Relicanth needs to be added because it also knows Head Smash (and is more adept at using it due to Rock Head) or Cranidos/Ramparados need to be removed.--[[User:JacobCrystal|JacobCrystal]] 16:15, 4 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==This page is in need of SERIOUS clean-up.==&lt;br /&gt;
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Some moves are counted as signature when they&#039;re limited to one Pokémon. Some are counted when they&#039;re limited to two Pokémon. Some three Pokémon. Where&#039;s the limit? I think two families should be the most.(Branched families are fine.) I&#039;d prefer only one family, but I&#039;ll accept anything, just agree on something.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some moves are counted as &amp;quot;signature&amp;quot; if they&#039;re limited to one(or a few) Pokémon NATURALLY...other moves are counted if they&#039;re limited OVERALL. I think that TMs/HMs/tutors/&amp;quot;bonus&amp;quot; moves should not matter, Waterfall is still Goldeen and Seaking&#039;s signature move. I&#039;d accept the other way too, but it needs to be CONSISTENT.&lt;br /&gt;
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Not to mention a few of the asterisks are wrong...and some without asterisks could use some. Or it could be split to generations, but I think asterisks work just fine.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Pikachu that knows Volt Tackle doesn&#039;t need to be in the one-off section. Yes, it&#039;s only Pichu&#039;s signature move...but Pikachus can normally learn it by evolving from Pichu! Pikachu shouldn&#039;t be in the table, that is correct, but it doesn&#039;t need to be in the one-off either. That should be for examples that COULD NOT happen otherwise, like the Dratini with ExtremeSpeed.[[User:Flint A|Flint A]] 20:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:My opinion is that if a move can be learned by any or all of the Pokémon of &#039;&#039;&#039;one&#039;&#039;&#039; family naturally or by TM, it is a signature move. If a move is shared with an other family or it is a TM that can be used or a move tutor move that can be taught on more than the family in question, it is not a signature move. Event Pokémon are obviously excluded. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3fff00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;UltimateSephiroth&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;about me&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chat&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:48, 20 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::That sounds fine to me, a more &amp;quot;exclusive&amp;quot; definition of signature move. Although if something was a signature move at one point, I&#039;d expect it there with an asterisk. The most important thing is that a definition is made. &amp;quot;More is lost by indecision than by wrong decision.&amp;quot;[[User:Flint A|Flint A]] 11:03, 21 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==GrassWhistle==&lt;br /&gt;
In GenerationIII, Roselia was the only one who could learn GrassWhistle by leveling up(to lv 29). There are many other pokemon that can learn it now in Generation IV, but it used to be a move unique only to Roselia(by level up). --[[User:PKFL 531|PKFL 531]] 01:38, 30 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Removing moves==&lt;br /&gt;
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Before I edit the actual page, I want to see if everyone agrees to this. &lt;br /&gt;
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I was thinking of removing the following moves since they&#039;re &amp;quot;Signature&amp;quot; titles are questionable:&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Petal Dance}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Crush Claw}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Splash}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Super Fang}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Beat Up}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Pain Split}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|FeatherDance}} &lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Assist}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|ExtremeSpeed}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Weather Ball}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Extrasensory}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Megahorn}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Waterfall}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Leaf Blade}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes yes, I know that&#039;s quite a lot of moves to pick out. But let&#039;s be honest, These moves are a little too common to be &amp;quot;Signature&amp;quot; thanks to other Pokémon showing up or Pokémon learning said moves via Breeding, Level up, Move tutor, TM/HM etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you don&#039;t agree with this, I&#039;ll ignore this. Or if you want only a specific move or two gone, I&#039;ll only get rid of those instead.&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;- &#039;&#039;unsigned comment from {{u|Ninterror}} ([[User talk:Ninterror|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ninterror|contribs]]) &#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Personally, I think it might be better to either do away with this article, or sort in into 4 articles, one for each generaton [[User:RB Golbat|RB Golbat]] 20:37, 30 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree with the idea of splitting them up as these moves were all once signature moves. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:53, 31 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Why make a whole other article? It says in the asterisk that it was &amp;quot;Prior to Generation X&amp;quot;. Just leave it as it is. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 02:46, 31 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Many of those moves are already noted as being signature moves prior to a Generation, as the person above said. However, Beat Up, Crush Claw, Pain Split, Feather Dance, Assist and Extrasensory, are different. They&#039;re signature moves in that only a select few Pokémon learn &#039;&#039;by level up&#039;&#039;, but can be taught in other ways. In the &amp;quot;Other signature move examples&amp;quot; section, such things are noted, where a move is learned by more than one Pokémon but only by one by level up. I say we move the mentioned moves to a whole new section for &amp;quot;Level Up Signature Moves&amp;quot;, where we list the signature moves if we go by moves learned through level and not by tutor or TM or breeding. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 05:32, 31 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Blast Burn, Frenzy Plant and Hydro Cannon ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I would just like to say that I have finally added the elemental hyper beams to the bottom of the page. Feel free to delete it if you like, but I do think that this edit would help the bulbapedia community.  ----&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GEN&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;1&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[User:Example|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;KING&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;([[User talk:&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]])&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 06:12, 14 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I would disagree here.  The signature moves of Charizard, Venusaur, and Blastoise have always been and will always be Flamethrower, SolarBeam, and Hydro Pump, respectively. SSBB even confirms that Charizard&#039;s signature move is Flamethrower (not Blast Burn). [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 18:13, 19 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::In most cases I would agree with you, but by the definition f signature move on Bulbapedia, that is extremely inacurate. Though true in a certain sense, Blastoise is not the only pokémon to learn Hydro Pump, and same goes for the rest. Also, no offense, but Super Smash Bros. Trophies are not exactly the most reliable source for canon information :p  --[[User:Gen1king|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;GEN&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]1[[User talk:Gen1king|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;KING&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 06:50, 28 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Former Signature moves! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We should have a section for Pokémon who&#039;s moves used to be signature moves, instead of keeping them with the other Pokémon. --Kimori Geckarbor Hinoarashi 13:48, 12 December 2009 (UTC) [[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|User talk:Kimori-Hinoarashi]] &amp;quot;I reject your reality, and substitute my own.&amp;quot; - Adam Savage, after being proven wrong.--&#039;&#039;Mythbusters&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Overhaul ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Alright, I went for it and changed the main body to only refer to Generation IV signature moves. The list of former signature moves near the bottom might be better as some sort of table, but I&#039;m not good at making tables and it wouldn&#039;t be like just copying the first table, as we&#039;d need &amp;quot;unsignature&amp;quot; dates. Also, that list should not be considered comprehensive; it&#039;s just the ones that were there already plus the ones from the old list. There might be some missing.&lt;br /&gt;
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The only controversial change I think is that I specifically limited signature moves to one evolutionary family only, but I seem to see quite a bit of support for that on the talk page and I feel it&#039;s the only sensible decision myself.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Yoshi348|Yoshi348]] 20:04, 8 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:just because you &amp;quot;see the support&amp;quot; doesnt mean you just do it, you dont have that power. it has to be definitively discussed for sure. i have undone your edits, but barring a proper definitive discussion, it can be re-added. i want to see what people think in an uncluttered manor. i personally dont see a huge problem in your way, but i also think we can find a better, cleaner layout than yours. -- &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAG&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#696969;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 20:16, 8 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Phantom asterisk ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Pokemon that had their signature moves learned by other Pokemon with the coming of a new generation were marked with an asterisk. There wasn&#039;t a note at the bottom saying what the asterisk was for, but rather one of those things you highlight (dunno what that&#039;s called). We should at least have a note in addition to it. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 00:00, 10 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Arcanine&#039;s ExtremeSpeed. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Shouldn&#039;t it say &amp;quot;Prior to Generation II&amp;quot;? It currently says &amp;quot;Prior to generation III&amp;quot;. --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 16:10, 4 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No, it was Arcanine&#039;s sig move prior to gen II, that is, before gen II. Extremespeed didn&#039;t exist prior to gen II {{unsigned|Malake256}}&lt;br /&gt;
:: Right. I forgot the distinction between Crystal and Gen. II. It was unique to Arcanine &amp;quot;Prior to Crystal&amp;quot;. --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 07:19, 6 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Metronome==&lt;br /&gt;
Signature moves can be moved by any pokemon knowing [[Metronome]]. My [[Togepi]] used metronome, and used [[Doom Desire]]! [[User:Panther2598|Panther2598]]&lt;br /&gt;
thats kind of obvious i mean metronome uses a random move from every move existing in a generation and they never said that they couldn&#039;t be used they just said that they can&#039;t be learned [[User:Juarmo|Juarmo]] 05:06, 11 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Oath of Fire, Water and Grass ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do you think we should add that?-[[User talk:444Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:brown&amp;quot;&amp;gt;444&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:444Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Z&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Zekrom|ekrom]] 04:23, 03 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:We should wait until the games are released. For all we know, they could be used by the other starters similar to the elemental Hyper Beams. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 07:18, 3 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Blast Burn, Frenzy Plant, and Hydro Cannon again ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In Generation III, since Charizard, Venusaur, and Blastoise are the only ones who could learn those techniques, they are considered signature moves in that sense yes? So shouldn&#039;t they be added to the list and mentioned on the respective moves articles?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 05:32, 11 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ll take it. [[Move tutor]]?--[[User talk:444Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:brown&amp;quot;&amp;gt;444&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:444Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Z&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ekrom&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 10:15, 4 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::They were only the only ones to learn those moves until [[Pokemon XD]] came out, which is still third-gen. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 10:23, 4 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Hmm... Prior to XD? Hahaha...--[[User talk:444Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:brown&amp;quot;&amp;gt;444&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:444Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Z&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ekrom&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 07:43, 5 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I think it&#039;s better not to take XD in consideration, because that game has distributed multiple signature moves, like Psycho Boost or Extrasensory. So I would say prior to generation IV--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 10:40, 18 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;prior to gen ...&amp;quot; signature moves ==&lt;br /&gt;
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If, according to te article, Signature moves are by definition only learned by either a single Pokémon or a small group of Pokémon, then a lot of the moves listed that say they were signature moves prior to a certain generation were still signature moves, (in cases such as extemespeed, for at least until the generation after) as the definition in no way implies that the pokémon that can learn it have to be related by evolution it just states either that the move can be learned only as a level up move and even then, only by a small number of Pokémon or that the move can only be learned by level up by a small number of pokémon (in which case almost all, if not all are still signature moves). because even though the way the definition is phrased it can be rephrased either way it most certainly can&#039;t be rephrased both ways because they are different from meanings from eachother but are synonyms to different definitions of the phrase that defines signature moves. [[User:Juarmo|Juarmo]] 05:07, 11 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ultimate Starter Type Moves==&lt;br /&gt;
techinically, the elemental hyper beams would be no less signature moves of the gen 1 starter evolutions in gen 3 than deoxys and its psycho boost (as purified shadow Lugia knew it). In fact, probably less of one as you catch the Lugia but you recieve the XD Jhoto starters from an event (albeit an in game one but still) also if Oddish and Glooms signature that ceased to be a signature by Gen 2 is on the list shouldn&#039;t arcanine and his extremespeed be on the list too. if i remember correctly dragon&#039;s den dratini didn&#039;t count towards extremespeed not still being arcanine&#039;s signature move in gen 2 so why should the XD Jhoto starters they&#039;re both in game events. [[User:Juarmo|Juarmo]] 23:28, 11 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Shadow Signature Moves ==&lt;br /&gt;
I think it should be noted that {{m|Shadow Bolt}}, {{m|Shadow Chill}}, {{m|Shadow Fire}} and {{m|Shadow Blast}} are {{p|Zapdos}}, {{p|Articuno}}, {{p|Moltres}} and [[Shadow Lugia]] Signature Moves in Pokémon XD. --[[User:Crikko|&#039;&#039;&#039;★&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6699FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Cri&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ққ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6699FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ѳ~&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;*&#039;&#039;&#039;]] 16:52, 13 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Clamp was another one of the Shellder line&#039;s signature moves... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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...Until Gen III that is. Could somebody add this? - [[User:050294|050294]] 01:21, 18 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Another idea ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I had an idea for a new column. I would like to mention what kind of signature move they are. &lt;br /&gt;
*Exclusive means: Only available to the poke himself, or the evolutionary line of that poke.&lt;br /&gt;
*Limited means: A few other pokes can learn it as well by leveling up or by breeding.&lt;br /&gt;
*LU exclusive means: The move is exclusive to a certain poke line by leveling up, but several other pokes can learn it by breading or tutoring.&lt;br /&gt;
*Common means: The move is now available to a plenty of pokes. Only mentioned if the move used to be exclusive.&lt;br /&gt;
*N/A means: it didn&#039;t exist that gen.&lt;br /&gt;
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{| class=&amp;quot;bluetable c sortable&amp;quot; border=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot; cellpadding=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background: #ccf;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! [[List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number|#]]&lt;br /&gt;
! &lt;br /&gt;
! Name&lt;br /&gt;
! Move&lt;br /&gt;
! Gen I&lt;br /&gt;
! Gen II&lt;br /&gt;
! Gen III&lt;br /&gt;
! Gen IV&lt;br /&gt;
! Gen V&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| 015&lt;br /&gt;
| {{MSP|015|Beedrill}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{P|Beedrill}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{M|Twineedle}} &lt;br /&gt;
| Exclusive &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; Lv. 20&lt;br /&gt;
| Exclusive &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; lv. 20&lt;br /&gt;
| Exclusive &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; lv. 20&lt;br /&gt;
| Exclusive &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; lv. 16&lt;br /&gt;
| Limited &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; lv. 16&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 10:40, 18 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Limited would not be implemented; signature move means it is limited to an individual or family, so those are former signature moves. Level up exclusive is possible, but I don&#039;t think it should be implemented. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 11:24, 18 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Levels ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s not clear from which game the levels are. I also don&#039;t see the point of noting the levels.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 10:41, 25 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Victini ==&lt;br /&gt;
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for the 14th Movie it was said that an event Victini would be given out have the move V-Generate and Ball of Fire, as V-Generate is currently a move only an event Victini can know, should it be put in the &#039;one-off signature moves&#039; section? [[User:Azure42|Azure42]] 15:38, 31 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== My definition of &#039;Signature Move&#039; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I say the definition should be &amp;quot;A move that a Pokémon is best known for.&amp;quot; As a result, this means that a move that is common can be the signature move of another Pokémon (for example, Rollout can be learned by several different kinds of Pokémon, but Geodude&#039;s evolutionary family may have it as their signature move, because Graveler is said to use it often down mountains in Firered&#039;s description of it). Another example is Psycho Cut - Gallade would most likely have the attack as its signature move had this description of signature move been used. --[[User:Psyblade|Psyblade]] 18:43, 27 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think it&#039;s a very good point, however, Pokédex entries sometimes state misleading facts, such as Dusclops learning {{m|Hypnosis}}, which it actually can&#039;t. So, although a good definition of &amp;quot;signature move&amp;quot;, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s good enough to point Pokédex entries in the article. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 23:59, 27 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia?==&lt;br /&gt;
The trivia says, that Vespiquen is the only Pokémon with 3 signature moves, while the same is true for Kyurem (as the table says). Shouldn&#039;t it be edited? --[[User:KingisNitro|KingisNitro]] 08:46, 7 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, because Kyurem can&#039;t actually learn Ice Burn or Freeze Shock. They are speculated to be its signature moves. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 08:58, 7 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Cubone and Marowak==&lt;br /&gt;
Both of these are only listed under Former Signature Moves, however both have two current signature moves. Bone Rush, out. Bone Club and Bonemerang, good. So why aren&#039;t Cubone and Marowak under the current signature moves? [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 01:10, 13 July 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Current definition is SERIOUSLY flawed! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The current definition of signature move here is &#039;&#039;&#039;seriously&#039;&#039;&#039; flawed.  The definition should be the move the Pokémon is most known for, not any random move that is exclusive to it.  While at times moves that a Pokémon is most known for may also be exclusive to it (such as Smeargle&#039;s Sketch), that is not always the case.  For example, even though Charizard was the only Pokémon able to learn Blast Burn prior to XD, Charizard is never shown using it in any Pokémon media; usually Charizard is shown using Flamethrower, and in the anime, Seismic Toss.  Furthermore, Charizard is a Gen I Pokémon, and it is absurd to say that a Gen III move is its signature move, considering Charizard predates Gen III.&lt;br /&gt;
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I really think the definition should be corrected here. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 00:05, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t think it&#039;s flawed at all. A signature move exclusive to that Pokémon. Meaning that the move can only be learned by that Pokémon. While Rollout is well know for a Miltank for example that doesn&#039;t make it a signature move. Sketch is a signature move because only one Pokémon can learn it and that is Smergle. This was discussed before. [[User:Pokemaster97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;--Pokemaster&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;97&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:09, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Random move? How is it a random move when it&#039;s &#039;&#039;&#039;a move that can only be learned by a single Pokémon or its family&#039;&#039;&#039;? Just because a certain move is showed off more by a certain Pokémon does not mean it&#039;s its signature. Signature refers to a Pokémon&#039;s exclusive move which means it can only be learned by a certain Pokémon or at a certain time.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Your definition seems to be judged by what you have seen in the anime which is biased to all other media. All things should relate to the game which are used universally. Might as well say BubbleBeam is Piplup&#039;s signature move and Thunderbolt is Pikachu&#039;s. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:18, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::What about Ditto&#039;s Transform, which is obviously Ditto&#039;s signature move because it is Ditto&#039;s ONLY move, despite the fact that Mew can learn Transform as well?  The fact is, Charizard is never shown using Blast Burn in the anime or any other Pokémon media besides the main games.  Also, consider that Blast Burn is a tutored move, not a level-up move. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 00:46, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Plus, SSB confirms Flamethrower as Charizard&#039;s signature move. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 00:54, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Leveling up has nothing to do with it. Volt Tackle is an egg move that is bred on to Pichu. There&#039;s also Meloetta who can only learn its signature move through tutoring. And again, the amount of times the move is shown in the anime has nothing to do with it. In the defense of Transform, Mew has the capability of learning every move through the move tutor in XD from Generation III and below. Though I&#039;ll give you that Mew can learn that one by level up. Not to mention that it&#039;s Ditto&#039;s only move. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 01:03, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Also, SSB is not a true Pokémon game to be taking sources from... It&#039;s Charizard signature move in that game, not in the Pokémon games. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 01:03, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::So, could you tell me what was Charizard&#039;s signature move in Gens I and II? The definition of the word &amp;quot;signature&amp;quot; does not mean &amp;quot;exclusive&amp;quot;, it means what the Pokémon is most notable for. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 06:27, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Another example: Take a look at Vaporeon and Jolteon.  Obviously their signature moves are Acid Armor and Pin Missile, respectively, as confirmed by their Pokédex entries.  However, even in Gen I, Grimer and Muk were able to learn Acid Armor as well, and Beedrill was able to learn Pin Missile. If those aren&#039;t Vaporeon&#039;s and Jolteon&#039;s signature moves, I don&#039;t know what else can be. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 06:31, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::See... the thing is Flamethrower can be other Pokémon&#039;s most known move. Every single Fire-type can learn it in some way. It&#039;s not so signature when so many other Pokémon can use it too. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::::None of Vaporeon&#039;s and Jolteon&#039;s Pokédex entries say that Acid Armor and Pin Missile are their signature moves. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 06:47, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::While they don&#039;t mention the moves by name, they mention that Vaporeon can melt into water, and that Jolteon can raise its fur to pierce foes. That implies Acid Armor and Pin Missile, respectively. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 15:20, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
I think you&#039;re not understanding here. Not all Pokémon have signature moves. A signature move is a move only that Pokémon or it&#039;s family can learn. Examples: Meowth {{m|Pay Day}} Chansey and Blissy {{m|Softboiled}}, The Porygon family {{m|Conversion}} and {{m|Conversion 2}}. This is what a signature move is. Your argument is incorrect. [[User:Pokemaster97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;--Pokemaster&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;97&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 15:26, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, that is your own interpretation of a signature move, which is clearly defective for the reasons I gave above. Unless we find an official source confirming your interpretation is correct, it is nothing but a fan implication. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 18:16, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Your last comment applies equally to your own definition. I suggest you take a step back and calm down. Also, [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/signature?rdfrom=Signature#Adjective signature, used as an adjective] implies distinctiveness, not commonness. Thus, the current definition is correct to the meaning of the word, so you will need very strong official evidence in order for it to change. &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:17, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I don&#039;t feel like the definition is flawed, but maybe an allowance for Ditto would be nice. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 15:52, 10 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== {{p|Clefairy}} and {{m|Meteor Mash}} ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t understand this. In the [[Signature move#Other signature move examples|Other signature move examples]] section, it says: &amp;quot;Although {{p|Clefairy}} can learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Meteor Mash}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up in any Generation III game, the only Pokémon that were able to learn it legally before release of {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}} were {{p|Metang}} and its evolved form, {{p|Metagross}}.&amp;quot; However, the {{p|Metang}}, {{m|Meteor Mash}}, and {{p|Clefairy}} articles don&#039;t make any mention of this, and the sentence itself doesn&#039;t make any sense. --[[User:Enervation|Enervation]] 23:43, 10 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s saying that since you couldn&#039;t get Clefairy until FRLG came out, despite that Clefairy can learn Meteor Mash in RS, Clefairy couldn&#039;t because there weren&#039;t any Clefairy in RS. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 00:38, 11 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New design ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m REALLY liking the new template, but I think it could use a little more organization. Like, either we organize them by number (the only ones not by number are the ones grouped with their cross-generational evolutions), or by the generation in which they gained their signature move (then by number). I&#039;m not sure...what does everyone think? &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:LimeGreenCharizard|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;LimeGreen&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;[[User talk:LimeGreenCharizard|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF8C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Charizard&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Special:Contributions/LimeGreenCharizard|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00BFFF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;♂&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 16:35, 12 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree it should be done by Ndex number. It&#039;s too jumbled and a little confusing as it is. If someone wanted to look for Pikachu, they have to go down to Pichu, and that&#039;s just sloppy. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;★&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jo The Marten|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Jo the Marten&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Flygon (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;★&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ಠ_ಠ&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Cilan (anime)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#90C870;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;♥&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 16:43, 12 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah I agree with what was said above. It is kind of confusing. Ndex would be a little more organized. [[User:Pokemaster97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;--Pokemaster&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;97&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 16:45, 12 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::How about making the columns sortable? Also the Pikachu line&#039;s placement was something I forgot to fix, so I&#039;ll move them to 025. [[User:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#d0000d&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;chiller&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pikiwyn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;]] 16:57, 12 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Sortable sounds fine to me. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;★&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jo The Marten|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Jo the Marten&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Flygon (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;★&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ಠ_ಠ&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Cilan (anime)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#90C870;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;♥&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 17:01, 12 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== V-create still a signature move? ==&lt;br /&gt;
Now that {{p|Rayquaza}} knows {{m|V-create}} via event (the same way that Victini learns it), is V-create still Victini&#039;s signature move, is it both Victini&#039;s and Rayquaza&#039;s, or is it not a signature move at all? Personally, I&#039;d remove it from the list for now, since now it&#039;s a one-off move for both Victini &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; Rayquaza. --[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:35, 20 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You make a lot of sense, and I&#039;d certainly wait for more people to weigh in.  However, I think that the name of V-Create certainly points it to it being a signature move of Victini, since many things about Victini are closely associated with the letter &#039;&#039;V&#039;&#039;.  There isn&#039;t really a set standard to which we can hold a &amp;quot;signature move,&amp;quot; so I think claiming its status as &amp;quot;debatable&amp;quot; is appropriate.  --[[User:Politoed666|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00B7EB&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;P&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008080&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;o&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Politoed666|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0095B6&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;L&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00CCCC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;i&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 20:27, 20 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::There&#039;s a bunch a moves on the list that are like that. Why change it now? Personally, I don&#039;t think we should change the status of a signature move just because of an event. They do that all the time. Like the Victini from the movie with Zekrom and Reshiram&#039;s moves and the Lugia from XD with Deoxys&#039;s move. Rayquaza cannot normally get that move and unless it is normal, then we shouldn&#039;t worry about it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:22, 21 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Just realized V-create is the move Victini only knows by event as well. Just still, to me it was obviously made for it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:24, 21 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Agreed - V-create was made for Victini (and I think that I made that clear on the page), but neither Victini nor Rayquaza can learn it through normal gameplay (both of them learn it via event). As for it being a signature move because it was made for Victini, I think {{m|Megahorn}} presents a similar case (though not to the same degree). It was made for {{p|Heracross}} in Generation II (why else would a generic horn attack be Bug-type?) until they made all sorts of other Pokémon, both old and new, able to learn it in future generations. Now, V-create is much more &amp;quot;characteristic&amp;quot; of Victini and probably won&#039;t become a widespread move, but having aesthetics and themes associated with a certain Pokémon doesn&#039;t seem like a criterion for being a signature move at the moment according to the page&#039;s description (we can always change it though). [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 04:15, 21 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: I personally don&#039;t feel it applies to what the meaning of signature move is as it says it can be learned by level up &#039;&#039;&#039;or other means&#039;&#039;&#039;. Think of it this way. If Relic Song is given by event to another Pokémon, say Cresselia, does that mean it&#039;s not Meloetta&#039;s signature move anymore because it doesn&#039;t learn it by level up even though that&#039;s what changes its form? Some common sense should be used in these instead of following the definition so strictly. If the Pokémon itself has an obvious connection to the move we should take that into consideration. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:35, 24 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Which is why I had to revert Darthrai and MisterE13--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 00:37, 24 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Actually, it&#039;s not as simple as that. The thing is, Meloetta can learn Relic Song via tutor; if the same tutor could be used to teach it to Cresselia, I wouldn&#039;t personally consider it Meloetta&#039;s signature move anymore (since they can both obtain the move on &#039;&#039;equally&#039;&#039; favorable terms). However, if Cresselia got the move via event, I&#039;d still personally consider it Meloetta&#039;s signature move, since Meloetta obtains it on &#039;&#039;more&#039;&#039; favorable terms. Right now, Victini and Rayquaza both know V-create on &#039;&#039;equally&#039;&#039; favorable terms (a one-off move for both Pokémon); however, you&#039;re right that we should consider if the Pokémon has an obvious connection to the move, so we should make that clear. (In Relic Song&#039;s case, it helps that, unlike V-create, it doesn&#039;t scream &amp;quot;THIS MOVE BELONGS TO MELOETTA&amp;quot;.) [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:05, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You&#039;re still not making any sense.  Relic Song is Meloetta&#039;s, and V-create is Victini&#039;s.  Roar of Time and Spacial Rend are Dialga and Palkia&#039;s respectively despite movie 10 Dialga and movie 12 Arceus.  Please stop dragging this--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 19:08, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::And Dialga and Palkia know Roar of Time and Spacial Rend via level-up, whereas Darkrai and Arceus only know it via event. It&#039;s not the same. Still, the current definition and status is good, I just think it&#039;s worth noting that Rayquaza and Victini both get V-create through similar methods despite it being Victini&#039;s signature move. I don&#039;t think this has ever happened before, especially since event-exclusive moves only debuted this generation.[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:19, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It is very much the same. Darkrai and Arceus learn it by equal means... Please stop. V-Create is Victini&#039;s signature move and happens to lend it to Rayquaza ONCE. Doesn&#039;t mean V-Create isn&#039;t Victini&#039;s signature movI&#039;d also like to point out&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Also, some of these moves can be passed down via breeding to other Pokémon &#039;&#039;&#039;or are known by certain event Pokémon&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;. Case closed. --[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 19:21, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Sure, but if we go a long time without this kind of thing happening again (&#039;&#039;event-exclusive&#039;&#039; signature moves being known by both the Pokémon they&#039;re intended for and another Pokémon &#039;&#039;on equal terms&#039;&#039;), maybe the issue can be revisited.[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:31, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::It doesn&#039;t have to be revisited. Leave it alone. Admins have already spoken on the matter and say to leave it alone--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 19:33, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: I meant like several years or when Gen VI comes around with more event-exclusive moves. When I said &amp;quot;a long time&amp;quot;, I meant &amp;quot;a long time&amp;quot; and that I don&#039;t think it&#039;s worth starting any further arguments at this point in Pokémon event history (so I&#039;m leaving it alone) Oh well, in any case it&#039;s just one minor piece of stating the obvious about one event, I shouldn&#039;t have made a big deal about it.--[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:34, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::By the definition of signature move, V-create is not Victini&#039;s signature move. However, it is a move that is associated with Victini. So based on Victini&#039;s associations with the move, you could say that it is its &amp;quot;signature move&amp;quot;, but that is not the definition of signature move. To keep the definition firm, we cannot consider it to be Victini&#039;s signature move unless it learns it via a method other than event, like how we didn&#039;t consider it Victini&#039;s signature move until it was distributed with it. So what should happen is this; V-create should not be listed as a signature move of Victini, but it should most certainly be listed under &amp;quot;Other signature move examples&amp;quot;. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 14:54, 30 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Can I suggest that, perhaps, V-Create isn&#039;t a Signature Move, so much as an Event Move? It&#039;s a move that cannot be known by any pokemon except perhaps via an Event, at least at a certain point. Another example would be Volt Tackle, which, until the release of Pokemon Emerald, couldn&#039;t be learned by any pokemon, or Kinesis, which couldn&#039;t be learned by any pokemon until Pokemon Yellow. Note that an &amp;quot;Event Move&amp;quot; wouldn&#039;t necessarily have been released via Event, it&#039;s just that, without an event, it would be unavailable up to a certain time (this could include moves only found as egg moves up to a certain point, if any exist). And on a side note, if a pokemon uses Metronome, and then Smeargle Sketches it, will it learn Metronome, or the resulting move? I ask because, if Smeargle sketches the metronomed move, then it would be possible for it to sketch Volt Tackle in RS/FRLG, or V-Create in DP. [[User:Aielyn|Aielyn]] 15:19, 1 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Another example of an Event move is a little more literal than the others - Snarl. At this time, it is only available through obtaining an Event Zoroark, and then breeding it to other pokemon from there. However, once another event, the Lock Capsule, is made available, it will be available as a TM... but still, it&#039;s an Event Move, since you need an event to access it in either case. [[User:Aielyn|Aielyn]] 06:56, 2 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Those are more &amp;quot;delayed release moves&amp;quot; than &amp;quot;event&amp;quot; moves. And I don&#039;t think it is really that relevant (by your definition, {{m|Kinesis}} is both a signature move and an &amp;quot;event move&amp;quot;). And to answer your question, Smeargle will Sketch Metronome. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 12:48, 2 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Isn&#039;t &amp;quot;delayed release&amp;quot; just another word for &amp;quot;event&amp;quot;, in this context? After all, you can catch Mew in Emerald, but you can&#039;t do so until a delayed release event. When Ruby/Sapphire were released, one couldn&#039;t legitimately get Volt Tackle. Not knowing how they&#039;d give you access to the move, wouldn&#039;t it be reasonable to consider it an event-exclusive move? That the &amp;quot;event&amp;quot; ended up being &amp;quot;the release of Emerald&amp;quot; is irrelevant to this point. And yes, Kinesis would be both an event move and a signature move - nothing wrong with that. It was an event move in Red/Blue, and then a signature move after that. Volt Tackle was an event move in RS/FRLG, and a signature move after that. V-Create is currently an event move. It may happen that, with the &amp;quot;third version&amp;quot; release, Victini will be able to learn V-Create by move tutor or level up, in which case it would be a signature move. Until the move can be &amp;quot;learned&amp;quot;, it really can&#039;t be called a signature move. It is &#039;&#039;speculated&#039;&#039; that the move was made for Victini, but it&#039;s only speculation, it hasn&#039;t been confirmed. It&#039;s entirely possible that, come the next pokemon game, it will be Rayquaza that learns it naturally, and not Victini... would that make it a Rayquaza signature move? [[User:Aielyn|Aielyn]] 04:37, 3 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The reason I used &amp;quot;delayed release&amp;quot; over &amp;quot;event&amp;quot; is because event specifically refers to things only available via event distributions, which is not true of things like Kinesis and Volt Tackle. It is unreasonable to assume a move is an event move if it has not been released yet—those are &amp;quot;unreleased moves&amp;quot; ({{m|Sacred Sword}} and {{m|Relic Song}} of course are exceptions due to being triggered by events, and {{m|Snarl}} was as well before it was available due to the event TM). However, I&#039;m not really sure how this &amp;quot;event move&amp;quot; argument is relevant here anyway. And Mew in Emerald is still event-exclusive. However, I agree with you that it is not currently a signature move, and that it may become one again in the next game. Also, I highly doubt Rayquaza will learn it outside of events if Victini doesn&#039;t—however, it is possible that if there is a move tutor, they would both be able to learn it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 10:03, 3 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::The relevance is that it gives an argument towards &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; including V-Create on this page. Indeed, I&#039;d argue that, even prior to the event Rayquaza, it was not a Signature Move, because the move was only available through an event, and thus couldn&#039;t be reliably associated with Victini, even if Victini was the only one that had gotten it. Let me give you a hypothetical analogy. Suppose that, during Gen III, an event occurred for FRLG, where you got a Voltorb that knows Volt Tackle. Would that make Volt Tackle a Voltorb signature move? I mean, it has &amp;quot;Volt&amp;quot; in it, and only Voltorb would have it. I&#039;d argue that, until the move is part of a pokemon&#039;s available moveset without an event, it cannot be a signature move. [[User:Aielyn|Aielyn]] 11:09, 3 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::In your hypothetical situation, I would argue that Volt Tackle would be Voltorb&#039;s signature move until another Pokémon could learn the move, with events always being ignored if there is another way for a Pokémon to learn it. However, since we agree about the way the page should be now and are merely debating hypotheticals, I don&#039;t think we need to continue this discussion unless someone argues for the inclusion of V-create. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 11:21, 3 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m sorry fellas but V-create actually is Victini&#039;s signature move!! Just not in Japan, because in that country Rayquaza can learn it. But this still means its Victini&#039;s signature move in the rest of the whole world!!! Just add V-create with a little star explaining its not a signature move anymore in Japan and we&#039;re done. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 14:28, 12 June 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==I&#039;m sorry...==&lt;br /&gt;
...but your definition of &amp;quot;signature move&amp;quot; is seriously flawed. Any definition of the term that doesn&#039;t allow Transform and Moonlight to be categorized as Ditto and Umbreon&#039;s respective signature moves is just wrong. So what if there were few other Pokémon who learned it in the generation it was introduced on? We&#039;re too worried about following rules and guidelines to the point that we&#039;re sacrificing common sense. Everyone considers Transform to Ditto&#039;s signature move despite Mew (who is only a event Pokémon and thus didn&#039;t even exist for the average player back in the Gen I days) learning it, too. And considering that Espeon&#039;s signature move is Morning Sun, it&#039;s obvious that the developers intended Moonlight to be considered the signature move of his counterpart, Umbreon. - [[User:Ericss|Ericss]] 17:53, 3 March 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I can see Ditto being an exception. But Umbereon and Moonlight? I never once thought of it being a signature move for Umbreon. And they only reason we consider it a signature for Espeon in Gen II is because it was the only Pokémon that could learn it.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Anyway, please look a few sections up to see the definition of &amp;quot;signature&amp;quot;. It means &#039;&#039;distinctive&#039;&#039;. It&#039;s not distinctive when other Pokémon can learn it too. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 05:44, 4 March 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Wouldn&#039;t that make Ditto a Signature Pokemon for Transform? [[User:Aielyn|Aielyn]] 09:25, 22 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::If another Pokémon can learn a move via level, TM or breeding it is not considered a signature move. A signature move must be a move only usable by one Pokémon (Mew can learn Transform and Clefairy, Oddish, Cresselia etc. can learn Moonlight).--[[User:Force Fire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#424B50&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;F&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#848A8D&amp;quot;&amp;gt;orce&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Force Fire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E3CED0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;F&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#EDDFE0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ire&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 10:08, 22 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Oshawott and evolutions==&lt;br /&gt;
Shouldn&#039;t Razor Shell be Oshawott/Dewott/Samurott&#039;s signature moves? [[User:JacobTheDoduo|JacobTheDoduo]] 19:36, 21 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Shellder [[Razor Shell (move)#Learnset|also learns it by level]]. So no. &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:55, 21 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Signature Move recovery ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, &amp;quot;Also, some of these moves can be passed down via breeding to other Pokémon or are known by certain event Pokémon.&amp;quot; Well how about Signature Move recovery? Sometimes there&#039;s only one Pokémon able to learn a move in that generation: Skarmory and Steel Wing for exemple, but because many Pokémon can learn it in a previous generation it isn&#039;t a Signature Move. This means that if TM 47 hadn&#039;t existed in gen 3 and 4 but in gen 5, Steel Wing would&#039;ve been Skarmory&#039;s Signature Move for two generations and it would&#039;ve lost this status in gen 5. But now its reversed and so it means Steel Wing isn&#039;t Skarmory&#039;s Signature Move in any generation!? I personally don&#039;t think so. And by the way Mega Kick is Hitmonlee&#039;s Signature Move, but there many Pokémon able to learn it in Firered and Leafgreen. So that&#039;s why Steel Wing (still for exemple) has to be Skarmory Signature Move. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 14:40, 12 June 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree. They have been added. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 11:22, 16 June 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== One table more. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In &#039;Other signature move examples&#039; are many exemples of moves which only one evolutionary line can learn by leveling up, but can be learned by other Pokémon too via TM. Could we give those exemples their own table? Just like the one for the real signature moves. This would make the page a little more clear. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 19:42, 28 July 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Squirtle&#039;s evolutionary family and Sharpedo are the only Pokémon to learn Skull Bash by leveling up, but other Pokémon could learn it through TM40 in Generation I.&lt;br /&gt;
Sudowoodo is the only Pokémon to learn Mimic by leveling up in Generation II, but other Pokémon could learn it through TM31 in Generation I and Move Tutor in Generation III.&lt;br /&gt;
In Generations II, IV and V and Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire, Hitmonlee is the only Pokémon who can learn Mega Kick. However, in Generation I and Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen, others could learn it through TM and Move Tutor respectively.&lt;br /&gt;
Unown can learn only Hidden Power; however, almost every other Pokémon can learn it via TM10 in Generation II and beyond.&lt;br /&gt;
Although several Pokémon can learn it by TM, until Generation III only Diglett and Dugtrio could learn Dig by level up.&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to Generation V, Vigoroth is the only Pokémon to learn Focus Punch by leveling up, although many other Pokémon can learn it via TM01.&lt;br /&gt;
Porygon-Z is the only Pokémon to learn Trick Room by leveling up, although that move can be learned via TM92.&lt;br /&gt;
Almost every Pokémon is able to learn Facade via TM42. However, Chimchar is the only one to learn it by leveling up prior to Generation V.&lt;br /&gt;
Although only Panpour and its evolution are the only Pokémon to learn Scald by leveling up, other Pokémon can learn it via TM55.&lt;br /&gt;
Also, Pansage is currently the only Pokémon to learn Grass Knot by leveling up, yet other Pokémon can learn it via TM86.&lt;br /&gt;
Kadabra and Alakazam are the only Pokémon to learn Ally Switch by leveling up, but other Pokémon can learn it through TM51 in Generation V.&lt;br /&gt;
Sawk is the only Pokémon to learn Rock Smash by leveling up, but other Pokémon can learn it through TM94 in Generation V.&lt;br /&gt;
Emolga is the only Pokémon to learn Volt Switch by leveling up, but other Pokémon can learn it through TM72 in Generation V. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 19:47, 28 July 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Do skill swap and steel wing really count as signature moves? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think something should only be considered a signature more IF only one Pokémon or only the Pokémon from one evolutionary line can learn it since the beginning. But I wouldn&#039;t say that steel wing is really Skarmory&#039;s signature move since it was a TM earlier on. Yeah, it&#039;s no longer a TM, but that doesn&#039;t make it Skarmory&#039;s signature move all of a sudden.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also regarding skill swap, that&#039;s also a move that used to be a TM, so I wouldn&#039;t say it&#039;s a signature move either. What do you guys think? [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 15:18, 22 March 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Steel Wing is definitely a signature move, because even though it was a TM for several generations, Skarmory learned it by level up in all those generations as well, and was the &#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039; Pokemon to learn it by level up. If anything, I think it should be listed as Skarmory&#039;s signature move in Gen 2-5 instead of just 5. Skill Swap is a slightly trickier matter that will probably require a more refined definition of &amp;quot;signature move&amp;quot; to resolve satisfactorily one way or the other.&lt;br /&gt;
:Personally, I think we should refine the definition so that it doesn&#039;t matter if a plethora of Pokemon can learn a move by a &amp;quot;lower&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;less common&amp;quot; method (i.e. TMs, Move Tutors, events); as long as only one family can learn it by level up, that is its signature move. (And if nothing learns it by level up and only one thing learns it by another method, that&#039;s also a signature move, of course.) But that&#039;s just my opinion. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:01, 22 March 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::In that case would you say that {{m|return}} is {{p|Lopunny}}&#039;s signature move? Sure, that move was introduced long before Loponny was but Lopunny is the only Pokémon that learns it by level up. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 16:12, 22 March 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That&#039;s why I said Skill Swap (which is in the same boat) is a tricky matter. There should probably be a provision where widely/universally-available TMs like Return aren&#039;t signature moves unless the one Pokémon that learns it by level up has been able to learn it at least as long as the move has been a TM. On the other hand, something like Softboiled was obviously Chansey&#039;s signature move even in Gen 1, in which nothing learned it by level up and the TM was only learnable by Chansey and Mew (which, of course, can learn anything). Of course, those are both extremes on opposite sides of the spectrum, and examples that are somewhere in the middle (like Skill Swap) are more difficult to figure. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:24, 22 March 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A few things... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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First... Why don&#039;t egg moves disqualify a signature move? Due to them, moves like Present and Beat Up are VERY widespread, compared to moves like Softboiled and Needle Arm that get disqualified for very small numbers of other Pokemon.&lt;br /&gt;
Second... Why does Volt Tackle count as a Pikachu signature when it can&#039;t learn it by any means itself? (It can only get it by evolving a Pichu that knows it &amp;lt;which should also qualify Raichu and a bunch of other families&#039; Pokemon if this counts&amp;gt; or by events &amp;lt;which have been noted to generally not count&amp;gt;.)&lt;br /&gt;
Third... Why does Sacred Sword (and relatedly, Fusion Flare/Bolt) count as a signature move for the Swords of Justice (who aren&#039;t technically related by family) when Rolling Kick (which only Hitmonlee and Hitmontop, who are related, can learn, excluding egg moves) doesn&#039;t from Generation 2 onwards?&lt;br /&gt;
Fourth... Needle Arm isn&#039;t learned by anything other than Cacnea/Cacturne in Generation 4, either. (It&#039;s only marked as being signature in Generation 3.)&lt;br /&gt;
Fifth... Only the Whismur line learned Sleep Talk, except by breeding, in Ruby and Sapphire.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Misplacing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there a reason why Jynx (#124) is placed after Magikarp (#129)? I searched the rest of the list and didn&#039;t see this error again. [[User:PokefanR|PokefanR]] ([[User talk:PokefanR|talk]]) 23:10, 27 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== outrage and dragonite ==&lt;br /&gt;
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outrage was the dratini&#039;s family signature move in gen 2 and that isn&#039;t on the list [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 15:53, 24 June 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:By level-up, yes. Charmander and Larvitar can learn it by breeding, so I&#039;m not sure how to categorize this. [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 07:46, 27 June 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Breeding is ignored for signature moves. Because by that logic, eg. {{m|Pay Day}} would be signature only in G3-G4 (G1 has TM, G2 has breed from TM and G5 has breed), when it&#039;s signature since G2. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 09:04, 27 June 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::actually I just didn&#039;t see it it the list lol [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 12:28, 8 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nuzzle ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Would Nuzzle count as a pseudo signature as it can only be learned by Pikachu and it&#039;s imitators? [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] ([[User talk:Guybrush20X6|talk]]) 09:41, 15 November 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:That seems notable, I guess, but I&#039;m going to say no. It&#039;s like how Glare is only learnable by snake-based Pokémon (excluding breeding). Since all those rodents are unrelated by evolution, it just comes down to specifics on how the move is actually used (description involves &amp;quot;electrified cheeks&amp;quot;). --[[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiANGLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;([[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#cc00aa&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]])&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:22, 18 November 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Definition ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article doesn&#039;t give a clear definition of what conditions we consider a move to be a signature move and what conditions we don&#039;t. All it says is that &#039;&#039;Most are learned by leveling up but some can be learned through other means when no Pokémon can learn the move by leveling up&#039;&#039;. There&#039;s no addressing what disqualifies a signature move: do TMs? do Egg moves? do event moves? do all of these disqualify in all cases, or are there special circumstances? There&#039;s been a lot of disagreement on this talk page about what constitutes a signature move, so we need to actually state &#039;&#039;our definition&#039;&#039; in the article so it&#039;s clear to readers. I would do so myself, but I don&#039;t know what that definition is to me because {{tt|our criteria make no sense to me|Really, Soft-Boiled is disqualified from Gen I Chansey on this page because it&#039;s a TM, but there&#039;s no mention of &#039;&#039;since Generation II&#039;&#039; in Soft-Boiled&#039;s article?}}. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:38, 27 December 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Solosis line and Skill Swap? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Does Skill Swap really count as being a signature move for the Solosis line? Sure, they were the first ones to be able to learn it by level up, but many others could learn it through other means. Heck, the move itself appeared two generations before the Pokémon did. If no one has any objections, I think it should be removed. --[[User:RiverAura|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#00CCFF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;River&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User_Talk:RiverAura|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#00FFCC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Aura&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 00:16, 15 January 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, it definitely doesn&#039;t fit since it can be taught by Move Tutor in the same Generation it&#039;s listed as being a signature move in. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 00:31, 15 January 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Event moves... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Should Hold Back and Happy Hour really be considered signature moves? They&#039;re not naturally known by any Pokemon, and several moves that otherwise qualify as Signature moves on this list, such as Shift Gear, Spacial Rend and Fusion Bolt have been given to event Pokemon. The fact they&#039;re only known by 1 Pokemon seems meaningless since any Pokemon could (and in all probability, will) be given them. (And again, no Pokemon actually learns them naturally.)&lt;br /&gt;
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Incidentally, the list of &amp;quot;One-off signature moves&amp;quot; is rather incomplete. (Being both outdated, and lacking some earlier ones like XD&#039;s Frenzy Plant/Blast Burn/Hydro Cannon Gen 2 starters.)&lt;br /&gt;
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Given Egg Moves seem to be ignored, Whismur/Loudred/Exploud should have Sleep Talk as a signature move in Ruby/Sapphire and Spoink/Grumpig should have Magic Coat as a signature move in the entirety of Gen 3. If Hold Back and Happy Hour are deemed to be valid signature moves, then Snarl should be a signature move of Zoroark in Black/White since TM95 wasn&#039;t legitimately obtainable, and thus event Zoroark (or a trade back from BW2, which also shouldn&#039;t count, since otherwise it would disqualify things like Meowth&#039;s Gen 2 Pay Day) is the only Pokemon that can know it outside breeding in those games. [[User:RiverShock|RiverShock]] ([[User talk:RiverShock|talk]]) 23:54, 30 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In order for a Pokémon to qualify as having a signature move, it must meet one of the following conditions: (1) It must be the only Pokémon (or Pokémon family) to learn the move (excluding Smeargle using Sketch), or (2) It must be the only Pokémon (or Pokémon family) to learn the move by Level Up. At the time of this writing, Celebi&#039;s Hold Back and Inkay&#039;s Happy Hour qualify them for condition #1. If a later event is released giving the move to a different Pokémon, then they will cease being signature moves, and they will be removed. If a later game is released where the moves are available to more Pokémon, the same will occur. Celebrate and V-Create are good examples of this. They are event-exclusive moves, but they are available to multiple evolution lines, with Celebrate being found on both Pikachu and Eevee (plus evolutions), and V-Create being available to both Victini and Rayquaza. Shift Gear, Spacial Rend, Fusion Bolt, etc. are considered signature moves because their users qualify for condition #2, they are the only Pokémon capable of learning the move through Level Up. Snarl on Zoroark was a signature move of Zoroark in Black/White, however, it isn&#039;t listed because we don&#039;t list things by games, we list them by generation, and the move is not exclusive to Zoroark when you look at Generation V as a whole - which would include Black 2/White 2. Meowth&#039;s Gen 2 Pay Day is a signature move because it qualifies for both conditions in Gen 2. --[[User:GoldenSandslash15|GoldenSandslash15]] ([[User talk:GoldenSandslash15|talk]]) 04:14, 31 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, GoldenSandslash, we do frequently list things by game instead of generation. See, for example, the Alakazam line&#039;s Kinesis in Yellow or Hitmonchan&#039;s Vacuum Wave in Diamond/Pearl. Also, your condition #2 is wrong; a TM is also enough to disqualify it, even if only one family can learn it by level up. (I strongly disagree with this criterion, but for some reason it exists.) In any case, I agree that TM95 being unobtainable in BW shouldn&#039;t make Snarl Zoroark&#039;s signature move, because if you do get a TM95 in BW somehow (tradeback or cheating), it is programmed to be compatible with tons of Pokemon, so it&#039;s &#039;&#039;technically&#039;&#039; in their movesets, and it&#039;s not programmed to be in Zoroark&#039;s level up moveset at all. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
:::TMs aren&#039;t tradeable in Gen 5, so there has never been (and never will be) a way to teach a Pokemon a move via TM95 in Black/White without cheating. The only way TM95&#039;s compatibility is referred to at all in Black/White is by breeding a tradeback or this Zoroark. (Or a Smeargle that Sketched from this Zoroark or a tradeback, I guess.) And breeding doesn&#039;t disqualify a signature move. Why should unobtainable moves in a Pokemon&#039;s potential learnset count towards disqualifying a signature move? [[User:RiverShock|RiverShock]] ([[User talk:RiverShock|talk]]) 17:39, 31 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bone/Rolling Kick thing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The removed fact was:&lt;br /&gt;
 * Bone Club and Bonemerang are the only STAB signature moves throughout all 6 generations.&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t think Rolling Kick counts because Machop, Hitmontop, and Elekid can learn it. Thus the Bone attacks are the only true signature moves. (IMO, the only signature egg move is Volt Tackle)&lt;br /&gt;
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And in case someone says Kinesis, it does no damage, thus doesn&#039;t qualify for STAB. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 22:43, 8 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Regardless, Rolling Kick is still a signature move, &amp;quot;true&amp;quot; signature move or not. Once you try to add too many conditions to make a factoid seem unique, it just becomes not notable enough to add. --[[User:Carmenstar97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#95EB5C&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Carmen&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;★&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:Carmenstar97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FEBEE8&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(Talk |&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A6DAFC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;contribs)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:56, 8 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Discuss please: Move Tutor vs. level-up ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It has come to my attention on the {{m|Electroweb}} page that, for some reason, we consider it Joltik/Galvantula&#039;s signature move in BW, not in B2W2, again in XY, and then not in ORAS, simply because of the B2W2 and ORAS move tutors. This is frankly ridiculous and makes no sense whatsoever. It was also pointed out that Hitmonlee&#039;s Mega Kick is also subject to this problem in Gen III.&lt;br /&gt;
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The fact is that, in a post-Gen III world in which Pokémon can be and regularly are transferred forward and in which Move Tutor availability is extremely broad in some games and extremely narrow in others, the current criteria for signature moves are obscure, difficult to divine, and needlessly convoluted. The simple fact should be that if a Pokémon or evolutionary line is the only one who can learn a move (barring events), that should be its signature move, and if any other Pokémon can have legal access to it by any means (including intergenerational transfer), it should not be considered a signature move. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:32, 5 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ve actually agreed with that for a while; the only reason I undid your edit was because those were the rules lol. Can we please change this? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 20:12, 5 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think it&#039;s pretty possible to complain both ways.&lt;br /&gt;
::We already exclude events or other special circumstances (or {{m|Pay Day}} wouldn&#039;t be Meowth&#039;s signature move in Gen II/III), and you can kind of view transferred Pokemon like events, if nothing else in the game lets you pass down the move or anything. (...It looks like Hoppip can learn Pay Day by breeding in Gen II, though; by that, I don&#039;t support calling it Meowth&#039;s signature move for Gen II, actually.)&lt;br /&gt;
::I pretty much think a move should be a signature move in Generation [X] if no one can learn it newly outside of one family. Our intro is plenty ambiguous, though. If we could settle on one definition, I&#039;d certainly love to make it much clearer. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:03, 6 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think I both agree and disagree. I understand how it seems odd for Electroweb&#039;s status as a signature move to bounce back and forth, however that&#039;s not a particularly common occurrence, and I think it still fits in with the spirit of a signature move. After all, Audino had Secret Power as a signature move in Gen V, even though nearly any Pokémon could exist on those cartridges knowing that move through transfers. I disagree, then, that transfer availability disqualifies a move from being a &amp;quot;signature&amp;quot; move. I also think that the criteria for signature moves are in no way obscure or &amp;quot;difficult to divine&amp;quot;, regardless of whether or not I agree with them. A move is a signature move &#039;in a particular game&#039; if only one family of Pokémon—either evolutionary line or related Legendaries—can learn it without breeding. Transfers and events can be considered reasonable exceptions as they both require interaction outside the game itself (connection to another game or download server—conditions not pre-loaded onto the cartridge). Pretty clear-cut in my opinion. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:19, 8 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Why, then, do TMs and Tutors disqualify a signature move, but breeding does not? I have never seen a satisfactory answer for this, nor can I imagine that one exists. It&#039;s utterly arbitrary and senseless. It&#039;d be better to have it all-or-nothing. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:29, 8 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::If a move exists as a TM or Tutor move, the game is telling you that there are many Pokémon that can learn it. Like, the move is being advertised to you as something that can be &amp;quot;taught&amp;quot;. It&#039;s nearly impossible to explain; you either see it or you don&#039;t. All I can say is that it would make absolutely no sense for a TM/Tutor move to be learnable by one Pokémon (barring &amp;quot;special&amp;quot; tutor moves like Dragon Ascent; which are specifically mentioned to be FOR a specific Pokémon). Yes that happened in Gen I but we are far past that now. Breeding doesn&#039;t really carry that same weight, because when a move is gained by breeding, it is &amp;quot;passed down&amp;quot; by the parent who knows the move, rather than &amp;quot;taught&amp;quot; to the Pokémon from an outside force. That&#039;s really the best way I can explain it. It makes perfect sense to me. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:42, 8 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Pretty much. TM and Tutor moves are taught to the Pokémon and thus aren&#039;t natural. Breeding is natural as the move is passed down. As for Electroweb, that shouldn&#039;t count as it&#039;s only for a specific generation that it would count as a signature move, at least, in my opinion. Transfers are automatically excluded because the Pokemon that are transferred aren&#039;t from that generation--[[User:Force Fire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AB2813&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;F&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C87365&amp;quot;&amp;gt;orce&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Force Fire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#26649C&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;F&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#729ABF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ire&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 05:36, 8 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::I&#039;m confused by what you mean by that. Why shouldn&#039;t Electroweb count? Many other Pokémon have a signature move in a specific generation. Then again, I&#039;m not entirely sure what point you&#039;re trying to make, or even what you&#039;re saying about Electroweb&#039;s inclusion on this list. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:47, 8 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
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	<entry>
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		<title>Talk:Play Rough (move)</title>
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		<updated>2016-06-08T05:42:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Really a variation of Meteor Mash? */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Really a variation of Meteor Mash? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Its power, accuracy, and BP are the same. But they have different chances of their secondary effect (10% for Play Rough and 20% for {{m|Meteor Mash}}), and it&#039;s a different type of effect at that (Play Rough lowers an opponent&#039;s stat and Meteor Mash raises a user&#039;s stat). I think that makes them just barely too different to be variations, but what does everyone else think? — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:42, 8 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Move variations</title>
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		<updated>2016-06-08T05:32:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Variations of Forest&amp;#039;s Curse */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;!--Insert new variations in alphabetical order--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{unknown name}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Outdated|needs=to be updated for Generation VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Move variations&#039;&#039;&#039; are moves that are identical to one another in terms of damage and accuracy, are similar in PP (no more than 5 apart), but have different [[type]]s, [[damage category|damage categories]], or secondary effects. Below are the various move archetypes and the moves that fall into their categories. &lt;br /&gt;
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Move archetypes are listed in alphabetical order. Within each archetype table, moves are listed by generation. Within each generation, moves are listed alphabetically.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;float:right&amp;quot;&amp;gt;__TOC__&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==List of damage-dealing move variations==&lt;br /&gt;
===Elemental Fangs===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15|power=65|acc=95|notes=10% chance to inflict non-volatile [[Status condition|status]] and/or flinch the target|other=Status condition}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Fire Fang|Fire|Physical|IV|other=Burn}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Ice Fang|Ice|Physical|IV|other=Freeze}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Thunder Fang|Electric|Physical|IV|other=Paralysis}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Fire Punch===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10 or 15|power=75|acc=100|notes=10% chance to inflict a [[status condition]]|other=Status condition|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Fire Punch|Fire|Physical|I|PP=15|other=Burn}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Ice Punch|Ice|Physical|I|PP=15|other=Freeze}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Thunder Punch|Electric|Physical|I|PP=15|other=Paralysis}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|III|PP=15||other=Confusion}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Relic Song|Normal|Special|V|PP=10|sig=Meloetta|other=Sleep}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===[[One-hit knockout move]]s===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|acc={{tt|&amp;amp;ndash;|30% in Generation I}}|notes=Targets at a higher level than the user are unaffected{{tt|*|Targets with higher speed than the user are unaffected in Generation I}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Fissure|Ground|Physical|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Guillotine|Normal|Physical|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Horn Drill|Normal|Physical|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Sheer Cold|Ice|Special|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Pledge moves===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power={{tt|80|50 prior to Generation VI}}|acc=100|notes=Additional effect lasting four turns when used in combination|other=Effect when combined with:}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Fire Pledge|Fire|Special|V|other=&#039;&#039;&#039;Grass Pledge&#039;&#039;&#039;: Opponents take 1/8 max HP damage each turn.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Water Pledge&#039;&#039;&#039;: Doubles the probability of secondary effects occurring}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Grass Pledge|Grass|Special|V|other=&#039;&#039;&#039;Fire Pledge&#039;&#039;&#039;: Opponents take 1/8 max HP damage each turn.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Water Pledge&#039;&#039;&#039;: Halves speed of opponents}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Water Pledge|Water|Special|V|other=&#039;&#039;&#039;Fire Pledge&#039;&#039;&#039;: Doubles the probability of secondary effects occurring&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Grass Pledge&#039;&#039;&#039;: Halves speed of opponents}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Acid===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|25 or 30|power=40|acc=100|notes=10% chance of secondary effect occurring|other=Secondary effect|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Acid|Poison|Special|I|note=Affects all foes (adjacent foes in Triple Battles)|other=Lowers Special Defense{{tt|*|Defense in Generations I-III}}|I| PP=30}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Bubble|Water|Special|I|other=Lowers Speed|PP=30|note=20 power prior to Generation VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Ember|Fire|Special|I|other=Inflicts burn|PP=25}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Thunder Shock|Electric|Special|I|other=Inflicts paralysis|PP=30}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Powder Snow|Ice|Special|II|other=Freezes|PP=25}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Aeroblast===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power=100|acc=95|notes=High critical hit ratio}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Aeroblast|Flying|Special|II|sig=Lugia}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Spacial Rend|Dragon|Special|IV|sig=Palkia}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Ancient Power===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power=60|acc=100|notes=10% chance of raising all stats}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Ancient Power|Rock|Special|II}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Silver Wind|Bug|Special|III}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Aurora Beam===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|power=65|acc=100|notes=Chance of an additional effect occurring|other=Additional effect}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Aurora Beam|Ice|Special|I|other=10% chance of lowering target&#039;s Attack one stage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Bubble Beam|Water|Special|I|other=10% chance of lowering target&#039;s Speed one stage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Psybeam|Psychic|Special|I|other=10% chance of inflicting confusion}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Sludge|Poison|Special|I|other=30% chance of inflicting poison}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Spark|Electric|Physical|II|other=30% chance of inflicting paralysis}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Low Sweep|Fighting|Physical|V|other=100% chance of lowering target&#039;s Speed one stage|note=60 power prior to Generation VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Barrage===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|power=15|acc=85|notes=Hits multiple times}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Barrage|Normal|Physical|I|sig=The Exeggcute line}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Fury Attack|Normal|Physical|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Bite===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|25|power=60|acc=100|notes=30% chance of [[flinching]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Bite|Dark|Physical|I|note=Normal-type with 10% chance of flinching in Generation I}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Heart Stamp|Psychic|Physical|V}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Blizzard===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5 or 10|power={{tt|110|120 prior to Generation VI}}|acc=70|notes=Chance of inflicting a status condition, certain weather causes moves to not miss|other=Additional effect|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Blizzard|Ice|Special|I|other=10% chance of freezing target|PP=5|note=89.5% accuracy in Generation I, cannot miss in hail, affects all foes}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Thunder|Electric|Special|I|other=30% chance of paralyzing target|PP=10|note=Cannot miss in heavy rain, 10% chance of paralyzing target in Gen I}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Hurricane|Flying|Special|V|other=30% chance of confusing target|PP=10|note=Cannot miss in heavy rain}} &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;*{{m|Focus Blast}} and {{m|Gunk Shot}} formerly had the same power too, but their power didn&#039;t drop in Generation VI and are therefore no longer included.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Blue Flare===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power=130|acc=85|notes=20% chance of inflicting a non-volatile [[status condition]]|other=Status condition}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Blue Flare|Fire|Special|V|other=Burn|sig=Reshiram}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Bolt Strike|Electric|Physical|V|other=Paralysis|sig=Zekrom}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Bone Rush===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power=25|acc={{tt|90|80 prior to Generation V}}|notes=Hits multiple times}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Bone Rush|Ground|Physical|II|sig=The Cubone line|siggen=IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Rock Blast|Rock|Physical|III}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Brine===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power=65|acc=100|notes=Power doubles under certain conditions|other=Condition}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Brine|Water|Special|IV|other=Target&#039;s HP under 50%}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Hex|Ghost|Special|V|other=Target has a major status condition|note=50 power prior to Generation VI}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Venoshock|Poison|Special|V|other=Target is poisoned}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Bug Bite===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|power=60|acc=100|notes=Eats and gains the effect of the target&#039;s held Berry}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Bug Bite|Bug|Physical|IV|}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Pluck|Flying|Physical|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Bullet Seed===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|30|power={{tt|25|10 prior to Generation V}}|acc=100|notes=Hits multiple times}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Bullet Seed|Grass|Physical|III}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Icicle Spear|Ice|Physical|III|sig=Shellder|siggen=V}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Circle Throw===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power=60|acc=90|notes=-6 priority, forces target to switch out}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Circle Throw|Fighting|Physical|V}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Dragon Tail|Dragon|Physical|V}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Clamp===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10 or 15|power=35|acc=85|notes=Partially traps target|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Clamp|Water|Physical|I|sig=The Shellder line|siggen=III|note=75% accuracy prior to Generation V|PP=10}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Fire Spin|Fire|Special|I|note=15 power and 70% accuracy prior to Generation V|PP=15}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Whirlpool|Water|Special|II|note=15 power and 70% accuracy prior to Generation V|PP=15}}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Sand Tomb|Ground|Physical|III|note=15 power and 70% accuracy prior to Generation V|PP=15}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Counter===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|acc=100|notes=-5 priority, counters the last move taken at twice the power|other=Counters}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Counter|Fighting|Physical|I|other={{tt|Physical moves|Fighting and Normal-type moves in Generation I}}}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Mirror Coat|Psychic|Special|II|other=Special moves}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Cross Chop===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power=100|acc=80|notes=High critical hit ratio}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Cross Chop|Fighting|Physical|II}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Stone Edge|Rock|Physical|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Crush Grip===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power=Varying|acc=100|notes=Does more damage if the target&#039;s current HP is high}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Crush Grip|Normal|Physical|IV|sig=Regigigas}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Wring Out|Normal|Special|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Crush Claw===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power=75|acc=95|notes=50% chance to lower target&#039;s defense one stage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Crush Claw|Normal|Physical|III|sig=Zangoose|siggen=IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Razor Shell|Water|Physical|V}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Crunch===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10 or 15|power=80|acc=100|notes=Chance of lowering target&#039;s stat by one stage|other=Affected stat|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Crunch|Dark|Physical|II|other=20% chance of lowering the target&#039;s Defense{{tt|*|Lowers Special Defense prior to Generation IV}}|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|II|other=20% chance of lowering the target&#039;s Special Defense|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Flash Cannon|Steel|Special|IV|other=10% chance of lowering the target&#039;s Special Defense|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;* {{m|Energy Ball}} formerly had 80 power, but was changed to 90 power in Generation VI and is therefore no longer included.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Dig===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power=80|acc=100|notes=Two turn move}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Dig|Ground|Physical|I|note=100 power in Generation I, 60 power in Generation II-III}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Dive|Water|Physical|III|note=60 power in Generation III}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Discharge===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15|power=80|acc=100|notes=30% chance of causing a secondary effect, hits all adjacent Pokémon|other=Secondary effect}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Discharge|Electric|Special|IV|other=30% chance of paralyzing}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Lava Plume|Fire|Special|IV|other=30% chance of burning}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Double-Edge===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15|power=120|acc=100|notes=User receives recoil equal to ⅓ of the damage done to the target}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|I|note=100 power in Generation I}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Volt Tackle|Electric|Physical|III|sig=The Pichu line|note=10% chance of paralyzing the target}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Brave Bird|Flying|Physical|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Flare Blitz|Fire|Physical|IV|note=10% chance of burning the target}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Wood Hammer|Grass|Physical|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Dynamic Punch===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power=100|acc=50|notes=Causes a [[status condition]]|other=Status condition}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Dynamic Punch|Fighting|Physical|II|other=Confusion}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Inferno|Fire|Special|V|other=Burn}} &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;* {{m|Zap Cannon}} formerly had 100 power, but was changed to 120 power in Generation IV and is therefore no longer included.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Eruption===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power=varying|acc=100|notes=Higher damage when used with high HP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Eruption|Fire|Special|III}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Water Spout|Water|Special|III}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of False Swipe===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|40|power=40|acc=100|notes=Leaves target with at least 1HP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|False Swipe|Normal|Physical|II}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Hold Back|Normal|Physical|VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Fling===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10 or 15|power=varying|acc=100|notes=Damage and effect vary depending on held item|other=Item required|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Fling|Dark|Physical|IV|other=Any except [[Poké Ball]]s and [[mail]]|PP=15}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|IV|note=Type also varies|other=Berry|PP=10}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Flail===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15|power=varying|acc=100|notes=Higher damage when used with low HP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Flail|Normal|Physical|II}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Reversal|Fighting|Physical|II}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Flamethrower===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10 or 15|power={{tt|90|95 prior to Generation VI}}|acc=100|notes=10% chance of inflicting a non-volatile [[status condition]], targets one opponent|other=Status condition|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|I|other=Burn|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|I|other=Freeze|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|I|other=Paralysis|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Frost Breath===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power={{tt|60|40 prior to Generation VI}}|notes=Always results in a critical hit}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Frost Breath|Ice|Special|V}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Storm Throw|Fighting|Physical|V|note=Throh&#039;s Signature move prior to B2W2}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Frustration===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|power=varying|acc=100|notes=Power depends on user&#039;s [[friendship]]|other=Higher damage with}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Frustration|Normal|Physical|II|other=Low friendship}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Return|Normal|Physical|II|other=High friendship}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Fusion Flare===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power=100|acc=100|notes=Power doubles if hit by Fusion Flare or Fusion Bolt in the same turn|other=Power doubled by}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Fusion Flare|Fire|Special|V|other=Fusion Bolt|sig=Reshiram}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Fusion Bolt|Electric|Physical|V|other=Fusion Flare|sig=Zekrom}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Giga Drain===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power={{tt|75|60 prior to Generation V}}|acc=100|notes=Restores HP by half damage dealt}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Giga Drain|Grass|Special|II|note=5 PP prior to Generation IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Drain Punch|Fighting|Physical|IV|note=5 PP prior to Generation V}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Horn Leech|Grass|Physical|V|sig=Sawsbuck|siggen=VI}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Gust===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|25 or 35|power=40|acc=100|notes=No additional effect|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Gust|Flying|Special|I||PP=35|note=Normal-type in Generation I}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Pound|Normal|Physical|I|PP=35}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Scratch|Normal|Physical|I|PP=35}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Water Gun|Water|Special|I|PP=25}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Fairy Wind|Fairy|Special|VI|PP=35}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Heat Crash===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power=varying|acc=100|notes=Deals more damage if user&#039;s weight is higher compared to the target}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Heat Crash|Fire|Physical|V|sig=The Tepig line}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Heavy Slam|Steel|Physical|V}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Hyper Beam===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power=150|acc=90|notes=User must rest the turn after its use}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|I|note=Physical move prior to Generation IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Blast Burn|Fire|Special|III|sig=Fire-type starter Pokémon}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Frenzy Plant|Grass|Special|III|sig=Grass-type starter Pokémon}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Hydro Cannon|Water|Special|III|sig=Water-type starter Pokémon}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Roar of Time|Dragon|Special|IV|sig=Dialga}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Rock Wrecker|Rock|Physical|IV|sig=Rhyperior|siggen=V}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Icy Wind===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15|power=55|acc=95|notes=Lowers target&#039;s stat one stage|other=Stat lowered}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|II|other=Speed}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Mud Shot|Ground|Special|III|other=Speed}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Electroweb|Electric|Special|V|sig=The Joltik line|other=Speed}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Snarl|Dark|Special|V|other=Special Attack}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Karate Chop===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|25|power=50|acc=100|notes=High critical hit ratio}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Karate Chop|Fighting|Physical|I|note=Normal-type in Generation I}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Poison Tail|Poison|Physical|III|note=10% chance of poisoning the target|sig=Seviper|siggen=V}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Leaf Blade===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15|power=90|acc=100|notes=High critical hit ratio}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Leaf Blade|Grass|Physical|III|sig=Grovyle and Sceptile|siggen=IV|note=70 power prior to Generation IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Attack Order|Bug|Physical|IV|sig=Vespiquen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Low Kick===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|power=varying|acc=100|notes=Greater damage on heavier target}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Low Kick|Fighting|Physical|I|note=Had 50 power prior to Generation III}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Luster Purge===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power=70|acc=100|notes=50% of additional effect occurring|other=Additional effect}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Luster Purge|Psychic|Special|III|other=Lowers target&#039;s Special Defense one stage|sig=Latios}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Mist Ball|Psychic|Special|III|other=Lowers target&#039;s Special Attack one stage|sig=Latias}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Megahorn===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power=120|acc=85|notes=No additional effect}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Megahorn|Bug|Physical|II|sig=Heracross|siggen=III}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Power Whip|Grass|Physical|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Precipice Blades|Ground|Physical|VI|sig=Groudon}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Night Shade===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15 or 20|power=varying|acc=100|notes=Damage equal to user&#039;s level|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Night Shade|Ghost|Special|I|PP=15|The Gastly line}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Seismic Toss|Fighting|Physical|I|PP=20}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Needle Arm===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10 or 15|power=60|acc=100|notes=30% chance of causing a secondary effect|other=Secondary effect|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Needle Arm|Grass|Physical|III|other=Causes flinching|sig=The Cacnea line|siggen=V|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Force Palm|Fighting|Physical|IV|other=Inflicts paralysis|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Octazooka===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power=65|acc=85|notes=May lower target&#039;s accuracy one stage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Octazooka|Water|Special|II|sig=Octillery}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Mud Bomb|Ground|Special|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Mirror Shot|Steel|Special|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Overheat===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power={{tt|130|140 prior to Generation VI}}|acc=90|notes=Lowers user&#039;s Special Attack two stages}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Overheat|Fire|Special|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Special|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Leaf Storm|Grass|Special|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;*{{m|Psycho Boost}} formerly had the same power too, but its power didn&#039;t drop in Generation VI and is therefore no longer included.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Petal Dance===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power=120{{tt|*|90 prior to Generation V}}|acc=100|notes=Lasts 2-3 turns, user becomes confused}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Petal Dance|Grass|Special|I|note=70 power in Generation I-III and 20 PP prior to Generation V|sig=The Oddish line|siggen=II}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Thrash|Normal|Physical|I|note=20 PP prior to Generation V}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|II|note=15 PP prior to Generation V}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Psychic===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power=90|acc=100|notes=10% chance of lowering Special Defense one stage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Psychic|Psychic|Special|I}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Bug Buzz|Bug|Special|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Earth Power|Ground|Special|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|IV|note=80 power prior to Generation VI}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Quick Attack===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|30|power=40|acc=100|notes=+1 priority}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Quick Attack|Normal|Physical|I}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Mach Punch|Fighting|Physical|II}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Aqua Jet|Water|Physical|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Bullet Punch|Steel|Physical|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Ice Shard|Ice|Physical|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Shadow Sneak|Ghost|Physical|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Vacuum Wave|Fighting|Special|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Revenge===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power=60|acc=100|notes=-4 priority, doubles in power if user was damaged}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Revenge|Fighting|Physical|III|note=0 priority prior to Generation IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Avalanche|Ice|Physical|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Rollout===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|power=30|acc=90|notes=Power doubles with each consecutive hit}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Rollout|Rock|Physical|II}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Ice Ball|Ice|Physical|III|sig=The Spheal line|siggen=VI}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Sky Attack===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power=140|acc=90|notes=Needs to charge, 30% chance of causing a secondary effect|other=Secondary effect}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Sky Attack|Flying|Physical|I|other=Flinch}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Freeze Shock|Ice|Physical|V|other=Paralysis|sig=Black Kyurem}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Ice Burn|sig=White Kyurem|Ice|Special|V|other=Burn}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Slash===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15 or 20|power=70|acc=100|notes=High critical hit ratio|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Slash|Normal|Physical|I|PP=20}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Cross Poison|Poison|Physical|IV|note=10% chance of poisoning|PP=20}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Psycho Cut|Psychic|Physical|IV|PP=20}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Night Slash|Dark|Physical|IV|PP=15}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|IV|PP=15}} &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;*{{m|Leaf Blade}} formerly had 70 power, but was changed to 90 power in Generation IV and is therefore no longer included.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Smelling Salts===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power={{tt|70|60 prior to Generation VI}}|acc=100|notes=Double damage on target with non-volatile status, cures non-volatile status on target|other=Cured status condition}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Smelling Salts|Normal|Physical|III|other=Paralysis|sig=The Makuhita line}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Wake-Up Slap|Fighting|Physical|IV|other=Sleep}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Stomp===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|power=65|acc=100|notes=30% of [[Status condition|flinching]], doubles in power if target has used {{m|Minimize}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Stomp|Normal|Physical|I}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Steamroller|Bug|Physical|V}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Strength===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10–20|power=80|acc=100|notes=No additional effect|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Strength|Normal|Physical|I|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Drill Peck|Flying|Physical|I|PP=20}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|III|PP=15}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Power Gem|Rock|Special|IV|note=70 power prior to Generation VI|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Seed Bomb|Grass|Physical|IV|PP=15}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|X-Scissor|Bug|Physical|IV|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Dazzling Gleam|Fairy|Special|VI|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Superpower===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power=120|acc=100|notes=Lowers two of the user&#039;s stats|other=Stats lowered}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Superpower|Fighting|Physical|III|other=Attack, Defense}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Close Combat|Fighting|Physical|IV|other=Defense, Special Defense}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Dragon Ascent|Flying|Physical|VI|sig=Rayquaza|other=Defense, Special Defense}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Surf===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15|power=90|acc=100|notes=Hits all other Pokémon adjacent to user}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Surf|Water|Special|I|note=Hit only opposing Pokémon prior to Generation IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Petal Blizzard|Grass|Physical|VI}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Swift===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|power=60|notes=Cannot miss}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Swift|Normal|Special|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Feint Attack|Dark|Physical|II}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|III}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Magical Leaf|Grass|Special|III}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Shadow Punch|Ghost|Physical|III}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|III}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Magnet Bomb|Steel|Physical|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Thief===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|25|power=60|acc=100|notes=Steals the target&#039;s held item}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Thief|Dark|Physical|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Covet|Normal|Physical|III|note=40 PP prior to Generation VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of U-turn===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|power=70|acc=100|notes=User switches after damage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|U-turn|Bug|Physical|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Volt Switch|Electric|Special|V|}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Waterfall===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15 or 20|power=80|acc=100|notes=Chance of causing a secondary effect, single target|other=Secondary effect|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Waterfall|Water|Physical|I|other=20% chance of flinching{{tt|*|No additional effect prior to Generation IV}}|sig=The Goldeen line|siggen=II|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Extrasensory|Psychic|Special|III|other=10% chance of flinching|PP=20{{tt|*|30 prior to Generation VI}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Dark Pulse|Dark|Special|IV|other=20% chance of flinching|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Iron Head|Steel|Physical|IV|other=30% chance of flinching|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Poison Jab|Poison|Physical|IV|other=30% chance of poisoning|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Scald|Water|Special|V|other=30% chance of burning|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==List of status move variations==&lt;br /&gt;
===Black and White Mists===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|30|notes=Affects stat changes|other=Effect}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Haze|Ice|Status|I|other=Removes stat changes}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Mist|Ice|Status|I|other=Prevents negative stat changes}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Terrain Alterators===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|notes=Causes a special effect for all grounded Pokémon for 5 turns|other=Effect}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Electric Terrain|Electric|Status|VI|other=Powers up Electric moves, prevents Sleep}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Grassy Terrain|Grass|Status|VI|other=Powers up Grass moves, grounded Pokémon heal by 1/16 of max HP each turn}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Misty Terrain|Fairy|Status|VI|other=Powers down Dragon moves, prevents status conditions}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Acid Armor===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15 or 20|notes=Increases user&#039;s stat by two stages|other=Stat affected|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Acid Armor|Poison|Status|I|other=Defense|PP=20{{tt|*|40 prior to Generation IV}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Amnesia|Psychic|Status|I|other=Special Defense|note=Raises Special by two stages in Generation I|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Barrier|Psychic|Status|I|other=Defense|PP=20{{tt|*|30 prior to Generation IV}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|I|other=Attack|PP=20{{tt|*|30 prior to Generation VI}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Iron Defense|Steel|Status|III|other=Defense|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Nasty Plot|Dark|Status|IV|other=Special Attack|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Rock Polish|Rock|Status|IV|other=Speed|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Autotomize|Steel|Status|V|other=Speed|note=Halves user&#039;s weight|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;*{{m|Minimize}} formerly had 20 PP, but was changed to 10 PP in Generation VI and is therefore no longer included.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;*{{m|Tail Glow}} formerly raised Sp. Atk by 2 stages, but was changed to +3 in Generation V and is therefore no longer included.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of After You===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15|notes=Changes move order of the target|other=Change}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|After You|Normal|Status|V|other=Target moves next}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Quash|Dark|Status|V|other=Target moves last}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Bulk Up===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15 or 20|notes=Increases two of the user&#039;s stats by one stage|other=Stats affected|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Bulk Up|Fighting|Status|III|other=Attack, Defense|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|III|other=Special Attack, Special Defense|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Cosmic Power|Psychic|Status|III|other=Defense, Special Defense|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Dragon Dance|Dragon|Status|III|other=Attack, Speed|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Stockpile|Normal|Status|III|other=Defense, Special Defense|PP=20{{tt|*|10 prior to Generation IV}}|note=Did not raise stats prior to Generation IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Hone Claws|Dark|Status|V|other=Attack, Accuracy|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Camouflage===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15 or 20|notes=Changes user&#039;s type|PP=PP|other=Changes to}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Camouflage|Normal|Status|III|PP=20|other=Varies with the terrain|sig=Staryu|siggen=IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Reflect Type|Normal|Status|V|PP=15|other=Same as opponent&#039;s type}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Charm===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15 or 20|acc=100|notes=Lowers target&#039;s stat by two stages|other=Stats affected|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Charm|Fairy|Status|II|other=Attack|PP=20|note=Normal-type prior to Generation VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Fake Tears|Dark|Status|III|other=Special Defense|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Feather Dance|Flying|Status|III|other=Attack|PP=15|sig=The Pidgey line|siggen=IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Captivate|Normal|Status|IV|other=Special Attack|PP=20|note=Only affects targets of opposite gender}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Eerie Impulse|Electric|Status|VI|other=Special Attack|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Coil===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|notes=Raises three of user&#039;s stats by one stage|other=Affected stats}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Coil|Poison|Status|V|other=Attack, Defense, Accuracy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Quiver Dance|Bug|Status|V|other=Special Attack, Special Defense, Speed}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Confide===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|notes=Lowers target&#039;s stat by one stage, ignoring Protect, Detect and Spiky Shield|other=Stat affected}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Confide|Normal|Status|VI|other=Special Attack|note=Sound-based move}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Play Nice|Normal|Status|VI|other=Attack}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Conversion===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|30|notes=Changes user&#039;s type|other=Changes to}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Conversion|Normal|Status|I|other=One of the user&#039;s moves|sig=The Porygon line}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Conversion 2|Normal|Status|II|other=Type that resists opponent&#039;s last move|sig=The Porygon line}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Defense Curl===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|40|notes=Raises a stat by one stage|other=Stat affected}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Defense Curl|Normal|Status|I|other=Defense}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Meditate|Psychic|Status|I|other=Attack}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Withdraw|Water|Status|I|other=Defense}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Howl|Normal|Status|III|other=Attack}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Destiny Bond===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|notes=Requires user to faint|other=Effect}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Destiny Bond|Ghost|Status|II|other=Knocks out target if target knocked out the user in the same turn}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Grudge|Ghost|Status|III|other=Brings PP of move that knocked the user out to 0}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Memento===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|notes=Causes the user to faint without damaging the foe|other=Effect}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Memento|Dark|Status|III|other=Lowers the target&#039;s Attack and Sp. Attack by two stages}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Healing Wish|Psychic|Status|IV|other=The next Pokémon sent out will have HP and status fully healed}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Lunar Dance|Psychic|Status|IV|other=The next Pokémon sent out will have HP, PP and status fully healed|sig=Cresselia}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Detect===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5 or 10|notes=+4 priority, protects user from all moves|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Detect|Fighting|Status|II|PP=5}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Protect|Normal|Status|II|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Spiky Shield|Grass|Status|VI|PP=10|note=Also damages those who make contact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Disable===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15 or 20|acc=100|notes=Disables the opponent&#039;s moves or items|other=Disables|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Disable|Normal|Status|I|other=The affected move|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Taunt|Dark|Status|III|other=Status moves|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Torment|Dark|Status|III|other=Using moves twice in a row|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Embargo|Dark|Status|IV|other=Using items|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Heal Block|Psychic|Status|IV|other=Moves and items that restore HP{{tt|*|Damaging moves that heal the user will only deal damage prior to Gen VI, and are disabled as of Gen VI.}}|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Flash===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15 or 20|acc=100|notes=Decreases accuracy by one stage|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Flash|Normal|Status|I|note=70% accuracy prior to Generation IV|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Smokescreen|Normal|Status|I|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Sand Attack|Ground|Status|I|note=Normal-type in Generation I|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Follow Me===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|notes=+2 priority{{tt|*|+3 priority prior to Generation VI}}, forces all opponents to target the user}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Follow Me|Normal|Status|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Rage Powder|Bug|Status|V}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Foresight===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|40|acc=100|notes=Removes a type immunity and negates target&#039;s evasiveness|other=Removed immunity}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Foresight|Normal|Status|II|other=Ghost types are affected by Normal and Fighting moves}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Odor Sleuth|Normal|Status|III|other=Ghost types are affected by Normal and Fighting moves}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Miracle Eye|Psychic|Status|IV|other=Dark types are affected by Psychic moves}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Forest&#039;s Curse===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|notes=Adds a type to the target|other=Added type}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Forest&#039;s Curse|Grass|Status|VI|other=Grass}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Trick-or-Treat|Ghost|Status|VI|other=Ghost}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Guard Split===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|notes=Averages the target&#039;s stats with the user|other=Affected stats}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Guard Split|Psychic|Status|V|other=Defense and Special Defense}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Power Split|Psychic|Status|V|other=Attack and Special Attack}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Harden===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|30|notes=Raises a stat by one stage|other=Stat affected}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Harden|Normal|Status|I|other=Defense}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Sharpen|Normal|Status|I|other=Attack|sig=Porygon|siggen=V}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Heal Bell===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|notes=Cures user&#039;s party of [[status condition]]s}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Heal Bell|Normal|Status|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Aromatherapy|Grass|Status|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Ingrain===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|notes=Heals user by 1/16 of max HP each turn}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Ingrain|Grass|Status|III|note=Protects the user from forced switching}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Aqua Ring|Water|Status|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Leer===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|30|notes=Lowers the target&#039;s defense by one stage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Leer|Normal|Status|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Tail Whip|Normal|Status|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Leech Seed===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|acc=90|notes=Inflicts target with a [[status condition]]|other=Status condition}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Leech Seed|Grass|Status|I|other=Seeding}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Toxic|Poison|Status|I|other=Bad poison}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Lock-On===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|notes=Ensures user&#039;s next move will hit}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Lock-On|Normal|Status|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Mind Reader|Normal|Status|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Lovely Kiss===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10 or 15|acc=75|notes=Inflicts a [[status condition]]|other=Status condition|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Lovely Kiss|Normal|Status|I|other=Sleep|sig=Jynx|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Sleep Powder|Grass|Status|I|other=Sleep|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Sweet Kiss|Fairy|Status|II|other=Confusion|PP=10|note=Normal-type prior to Generation VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;*{{m|Will-O-Wisp}} formerly had 75% accuracy, but was changed to 85% in Generation VI and is therefore no longer included.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Mean Look===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5 or 10|acc=100|notes=Prevents target form escaping or switching out|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Mean Look|Normal|Status|II|PP=5}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Spider Web|Bug|Status|II|PP=10|sig=Spinarak|siggen=V}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Block|Normal|Status|III|PP=5}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Mirror Move===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|notes=Uses the last move used by the target}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Mirror Move|Flying|Status|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Copycat|Normal|Status|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Moonlight===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|notes=Heals variant amount of HP, depending on the [[weather]]|other=Time of day (Generation II only)}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Moonlight|Fairy|Status|II|note=Normal-type prior to Generation VI|other=Twice as effective at night}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Morning Sun|Normal|Status|II|sig=Espeon|siggen=III|other=Twice as effective in the morning}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Synthesis|Grass|Status|II|other=Twice as effective during daytime}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Mud Sport===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15|notes=Halves damage taken from a certain type|other=Affected type}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Mud Sport|Ground|Status|III|other=Electric}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Water Sport|Water|Status|III|other=Fire}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Poison Powder===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|35 or 30|acc=75|notes=Inflicts a [[status condition]]|other=Status condition|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Poison Powder|Poison|Status|I|other=Poison|PP=35}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Stun Spore|Grass|Status|I|other=Paralysis|PP=30}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;*{{m|Glare}} formerly had 75% accuracy, but was changed to 90% in Generation V and is therefore no longer included.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Quick Guard===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10 or 15|notes=+3 priority, protects user&#039;s side of field|other=Protects from|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Quick Guard|Fighting|Status|V|other=Moves with increased priority|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Wide Guard|Rock|Status|V|other=Moves that target multiple Pokémon|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Crafty Shield|Fairy|Status|VI|other=Status moves|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Rain Dance===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5 or 10|notes=Changes in-battle [[weather]] for 5 turns|other=Weather|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Rain Dance|Water|Status|II|other=Heavy rain|PP=5}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|II|other=Sandstorm|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|II|other=Intense sunlight|PP=5}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Hail|Ice|Status|III|other=Hail|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;*{{m|Shadow Sky}} can also be considered to be a variation.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Recover===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|notes=Heals user by half max HP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Recover|Normal|Status|I|note=20 PP prior to Generation IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Soft-Boiled|Normal|Status|I|sig=The Chansey line}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Milk Drink|Normal|Status|II|sig=Miltank}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Slack Off|Normal|Status|III|sig=The Slakoth line|siggen=IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Heal Order|Bug|Status|IV|sig=Vespiquen}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Roost|Flying|Status|IV|note=Removes user&#039;s Flying-type until end of turn}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Roar===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|acc={{tt|100|prior to Gen VI}}|notes=-6 priority, forces target to switch}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Roar|Normal|Status|I|note=Targets with Soundproof are unnaffected}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Whirlwind|Normal|Status|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Safeguard===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|25 or 30|notes=Protects the user&#039;s party for 5 turns|other=Protects from|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Safeguard|Normal|Status|II|other=[[Status condition]]s|PP=25}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Lucky Chant|Normal|Status|IV|other=Critical hits|PP=30}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Screech===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|40|acc=85|notes=Sound moves that lower the target&#039;s stat by two stages|other=Stat affected}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Screech|Normal|Status|I|other=Defense}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Metal Sound|Steel|Status|III|other=Special Defense}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;*{{m|Cotton Spore}} formerly had 85% accuracy, but was changed to 100% in Generation V and is therefore no longer included.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Sing===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15 or 20|acc=55|notes=Sound moves that inflict a [[status condition]]|other=Status condition|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Sing|Normal|Status|I|other=Sleep|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Supersonic|Normal|Status|I|other=Confusion|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Grass Whistle|Grass|Status|III|other=Sleep|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Skill Swap===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|notes=Switches the user&#039;s condition with the target|other=Switched}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Skill Swap|Psychic|Status|III|other=Abilities}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Heart Swap|Psychic|Status|IV|other=Any stat changes|sig=Manaphy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Guard Swap|Psychic|Status|IV|other=Changes to Defense and Special Defense}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Power Swap|Psychic|Status|IV|other=Changes to Attack and Special Attack}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Spikes===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|notes=Lays down entry hazards|other=Effect}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Spikes|Ground|Status|II|other=Inflicts damages when opponent switches in}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Stealth Rock|Rock|Status|IV|other=Inflicts damage depending on type when opponent switches in}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Toxic Spikes|Poison|Status|IV|other=Inflicts poison when opponent switches in}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Sticky Web|Bug|Status|VI|other=Decreases Speed by 1 stage when opponent switches in}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Splash===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|40|notes=Does nothing}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Splash|Normal|Status|I|sig=Magikarp|siggen=II}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Celebrate|Normal|Status|VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Hold Hands|Normal|Status|VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Spore===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15 or 20|acc=100|notes=Inflicts target(s) with a [[status condition]]|other=Status condition|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Spore|Grass|Status|I|other=Sleep|sig=The Paras line|siggen=III|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|I|other=Paralysis|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Trick===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|acc=100|notes=Switches items with target}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Trick|Psychic|Status|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Switcheroo|Dark|Status|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Trick Room===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5 or 10|notes=Causes a special effect for all Pokémon on the field for 5 turns|other=Effect|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Trick Room|Psychic|Status|IV|other=Slower Pokémon move first|PP=5}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Magic Room|Psychic|Status|V|other=Disables held items{{tt|*|-7 priority prior to Generation VI}}|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Wonder Room|Psychic|Status|V|other=Switches Defense and Special Defense{{tt|*|-7 priority prior to Generation VI}}|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Worry Seed===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10 or 15|acc=100|notes=Changes the target&#039;s Ability|other=Ability becomes|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Worry Seed|Grass|Status|IV|other={{a|Insomnia}}|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Entrainment|Normal|Status|V|other=Same as user|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Simple Beam|Normal|Status|V|other={{a|Simple}}|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==List of Shadow move variations==&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Shadow Bolt===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|N/A|power=75|acc=100|notes=10% chance of inflicting a non-volatile [[status condition]]|other=Status condition}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Shadow Bolt|Shadow|Special|III|other=Paralysis|sig=Shadow Zapdos}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Shadow Chill|Shadow|Special|III|other=Freeze|sig=Shadow Articuno}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Shadow Fire|Shadow|Special|III|other=Burn|sig=Shadow Moltres}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ability variations]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Moves|*]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Game mechanics]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[de:Attacken-Variationen]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[it:Varianti mossa]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Fairy_Wind_(move)&amp;diff=2455488</id>
		<title>Fairy Wind (move)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Fairy_Wind_(move)&amp;diff=2455488"/>
		<updated>2016-06-08T05:31:25Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: Changed &amp;quot;move variations&amp;quot; template to reflect the proper move.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{MoveInfobox|&lt;br /&gt;
n=584|&lt;br /&gt;
name=Fairy Wind|&lt;br /&gt;
jname=ようせいのかぜ |&lt;br /&gt;
jtrans=Fairy Wind|&lt;br /&gt;
jtranslit=Yōsei no Kaze |&lt;br /&gt;
gameimage=Fairy Wind.png|&lt;br /&gt;
gameimagewidth=300|&lt;br /&gt;
type=Fairy |&lt;br /&gt;
damagecategory=Special |&lt;br /&gt;
basepp=30|&lt;br /&gt;
maxpp=48|&lt;br /&gt;
power=40 |&lt;br /&gt;
accuracy=100 |&lt;br /&gt;
gen=VI |&lt;br /&gt;
category6=Beautiful |&lt;br /&gt;
appeal6=4 |&lt;br /&gt;
jam6=0 |&lt;br /&gt;
cdesc6=Quite an appealing move. |&lt;br /&gt;
touches=no |&lt;br /&gt;
protect=yes |&lt;br /&gt;
magiccoat=no |&lt;br /&gt;
snatch=no |&lt;br /&gt;
brightpowder=yes |&lt;br /&gt;
kingsrock=yes |&lt;br /&gt;
flag7=no |&lt;br /&gt;
flag8=no |&lt;br /&gt;
sound=no |&lt;br /&gt;
target=anyadjacent |&lt;br /&gt;
footnotes= }}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Fairy Wind&#039;&#039;&#039; (Japanese: &#039;&#039;&#039;ようせいのかぜ&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Fairy Wind&#039;&#039;) is a damage-dealing {{type|Fairy}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation VI]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Effect==&lt;br /&gt;
Fairy Wind inflicts damage and has no secondary effect.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Description==&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedesc|Fairy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev6|XYORAS}}|The user stirs up a fairy wind and strikes the target with it.}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}{{left clear}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Learnset==&lt;br /&gt;
===By [[Level|leveling up]]===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveheader/Level|Fairy|6}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level6|176|Togetic|2|Fairy|Flying|14|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level6|187|Hoppip|2|Grass|Flying|10}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level6|188|Skiploom|2|Grass|Flying|10}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level6|189|Jumpluff|2|Grass|Flying|10}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level6|303|Mawile|2|Steel|Fairy|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level6|546|Cottonee|2|Grass|Fairy|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level6|669|Flabébé|1|Fairy|Fairy|6|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level6|670|Floette|1|Fairy|Fairy|6|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level6|682|Spritzee|1|Fairy|Fairy|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level6|683|Aromatisse|1|Fairy|Fairy|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level6|684|Swirlix|1|Fairy|Fairy|5|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level6|685|Slurpuff|1|Fairy|Fairy|5|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level6|700|Sylveon|1|Fairy|Fairy|9|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level6|707|Klefki|2|Steel|Fairy|5|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Movefooter|Fairy|6}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In the anime==&lt;br /&gt;
{{moveanime|type=fairy|exp=yes|gen=The user stirs up a fairy wind and strikes the opponent with it.|image1=Penelope Sylveon Fairy Wind.png|image1p=Penelope&#039;s Sylveon|image2=Mabel Mega Mawile Fairy Wind.png|image2p=Mega Mawile|image3=Serena Sylveon Fairy Wind.png|image3p=Serena&#039;s Sylveon|image4=Shauna Flabébé Fairy Wind.png|image4p=Flabébé}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=fairy|ms=700|pkmn=Sylveon|method=Sylveon pulls its feelers together, and the air around them starts to glow light blue. Sylveon then spreads its feelers wide open, sending a strong gust of wind at the opponent. Or, Sylveon leaves a trail of pink, sparkling dust as it jumps around.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=fairy|user=Penelope (XY013)|user1=Penelope&#039;s Sylveon|startcode=XY013|startname=Kindergarten Chaos!|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=fairy|user=Valerie|user1=Valerie&#039;s Sylveon|startcode=XY074|startname=Fairy-Type Trickery!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=fairy|user=Sylveon (Pokémon)|user1=A Sylveon in Shauna&#039;s fantasy|startcode=XY090|startname=Tag Team Battle Inspiration!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=fairy|user=Serena&#039;s Sylveon|startcode=XY105|startname=Party Dancecapades!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=fairy|ms=187|pkmn=Hoppip|method=Hoppip releases a strong gust of sparkling wind that strikes the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=fairy|user=Hoppip (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Hoppip|startcode=XY013|startname=Kindergarten Chaos!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=fairy|ms=303M|pkmn=Mawile|method=Mega Mawile begins spinning rapidly, creating strong gusts of sparkling wind that strike the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=fairy|user=Mabel|user1=Mabel&#039;s Mawile|startcode=XY034|startname=The Bonds of Mega Evolution!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=fairy|ms=669O|pkmn=Flabébé|method=Flabébé leaves a trail of pink, sparkling dust as it flies around.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=fairy|user=Shauna (anime)|user1=Shauna&#039;s Flabébé|startcode=XY060|startname=A Showcase Debut!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=fairy|ms=685|pkmn=Slurpuff|method=Slurpuff begins spinning rapidly, creating strong gusts of sparkling wind that strike the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtm|type=fairy|user=Miette|user1=Miette&#039;s Slurpuff|startcode=XY112|startname=Master Class is in Session!}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:XY Prerelease Gardevoir Fairy Wind.png|thumb|Gardevoir using Fairy Wind]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Prior to the release of [[Pokémon X and Y]], a trailer at {{wp|E3}} 2013 showed {{p|Gardevoir}} using Fairy Wind. However, Gardevoir [[Game move errors|cannot learn]] Fairy Wind in the final release of the game.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In other languages==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Langtable|color={{fairy color}}|bordercolor={{fairy color light}}&lt;br /&gt;
|zh_cmn=妖精之風 &#039;&#039;{{tt|Yāojing-zhī Fēng|Fairy Wind}}&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|nl=Feeënwind&lt;br /&gt;
|fr=Vent Féérique&lt;br /&gt;
|de=Feenbrise&lt;br /&gt;
|it=Vento di Fata&lt;br /&gt;
|ko=요정의바람 &#039;&#039;{{tt|Yojeong-ui Baram|Fairy Wind}}&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|pl=Baśniowy wiatr ([[XY013]], [[XY060]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Bajkowy Wiatr ([[XY034]])&lt;br /&gt;
|pt_br=Vento Encantado (anime)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Vento de Fada (TCG)&lt;br /&gt;
|pt_eu=Vento de Fada&lt;br /&gt;
|es=Viento Feérico&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Gust|Fairy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Beauty moves]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[de:Feenbrise]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[fr:Vent Féérique]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[it:Vento di Fata (mossa)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[ja:ようせいのかぜ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[zh:妖精之风（招式）]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Water_Gun_(move)&amp;diff=2455487</id>
		<title>Water Gun (move)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Water_Gun_(move)&amp;diff=2455487"/>
		<updated>2016-06-08T05:31:06Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{MoveInfobox|&lt;br /&gt;
n=55 |&lt;br /&gt;
name=Water Gun |&lt;br /&gt;
jname=みずでっぽう |&lt;br /&gt;
jtranslit=Mizu Deppō |&lt;br /&gt;
jtrans=Water Gun |&lt;br /&gt;
gameimage=Water Gun.png |&lt;br /&gt;
gameimage2=Water Gun 2.png |&lt;br /&gt;
gameimagewidth=300px |&lt;br /&gt;
type=Water |&lt;br /&gt;
damagecategory=Special |&lt;br /&gt;
basepp=25 |&lt;br /&gt;
maxpp=40 |&lt;br /&gt;
power=40 |&lt;br /&gt;
gen=I|&lt;br /&gt;
tm1=yes|&lt;br /&gt;
tm#1=12|&lt;br /&gt;
na=no|&lt;br /&gt;
accuracy=100 |&lt;br /&gt;
bdesc=The foe is hit with a Special attack that has no additional effects. |&lt;br /&gt;
category=Cute |&lt;br /&gt;
appeal=4 |&lt;br /&gt;
jam=0 |&lt;br /&gt;
cdesc=A highly appealing move. |&lt;br /&gt;
appealsc=3 |&lt;br /&gt;
scdesc=A basic performance using a move known by the Pokémon. |&lt;br /&gt;
appeal6=4 |&lt;br /&gt;
jam6=0 |&lt;br /&gt;
cdesc6=Quite an appealing move. |&lt;br /&gt;
pokefordex=Water%20Gun |&lt;br /&gt;
touches=no |&lt;br /&gt;
protect=yes |&lt;br /&gt;
magiccoat=no |&lt;br /&gt;
snatch=no |&lt;br /&gt;
brightpowder=yes |&lt;br /&gt;
kingsrock=yes |&lt;br /&gt;
flag7=no |&lt;br /&gt;
flag8=no |&lt;br /&gt;
sound=no |&lt;br /&gt;
target=anyadjacent |&lt;br /&gt;
footnotes= }}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Water Gun&#039;&#039;&#039; (Japanese: &#039;&#039;&#039;みずでっぽう&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Water Gun&#039;&#039;) is a damage-dealing {{type|Water}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation I]]. It was [[TM12]] in Generation I.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Effect==&lt;br /&gt;
Water Gun inflicts damage and has no secondary effect.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Description==&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedesc|Water}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrevss|Stad}}{{gameabbrevss|Stad2}}|A &amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;Water&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;-type attack. Stronger than &amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;{{m|Bubble}}&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;. Many &amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;Water&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;-type &amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;Pokémon&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt; learn this move.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev2|GSC}}|Squirts water to attack.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|RSE}}|Squirts water to attack the foe.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrevss|Colo}}{{gameabbrevss|XD}}|Squirts water to attack the target.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|FRLG}}|The foe is struck with a lot of water expelled forcibly from the mouth.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev4|DPPtHGSS}}|The foe is blasted with a forceful shot of water.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev5|BWB2W2}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{gameabbrev6|XYORAS}}|The target is blasted with a forceful shot of water.}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}{{left clear}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Learnset==&lt;br /&gt;
===By [[Level|leveling up]]===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveheader/Level|Water|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|007|Squirtle|1|Water|Water|15|13|13|13|13|7|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|008|Wartortle|1|Water|Water|15|13|13|13|13|1, 7|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|009|Blastoise|1|Water|Water|1, 15|13|13|13|13|1, 7|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|054|Psyduck|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|9|9|B2W2=8|8|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|055|Golduck|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|1, 9|1, 9|B2W2=1, 8|1, 8|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|060|Poliwag|1|Water|Water|19|13|13|11|11|5|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|061|Poliwhirl|1|Water|Water|1, 19|1, 13|1, 13|11|11|1, 5|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|062|Poliwrath|2|Water|Fighting|1, 19|1|1|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|072|Tentacool|2|Water|Poison|22|no|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|073|Tentacruel|2|Water|Poison|22|no|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|079|Slowpoke|2|Water|Psychic|33|15|15|FRLG=13|11|9|9|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|080|Slowbro|2|Water|Psychic|33|1, 15|15|FRLG=13|11|9|9|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|116|Horsea|1|Water|Water|30|22|22|11|11|{{tt|1|XY}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{tt|13|ORAS}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|117|Seadra|1|Water|Water|30|1, 22|1, 22|1, 11|1, 11|{{tt|1|XY}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{tt|1, 13|ORAS}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|120|Staryu|1|Water|Water|17|7|6|6|6|{{tt|6|XY}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{tt|4|ORAS}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|121|Starmie|2|Water|Psychic|1|no|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|131|Lapras|2|Water|Ice|1|1|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|134|Vaporeon|1|Water|Water|1, 31|Y=1, 16|16|16|15|15|B2W2=9|9|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|138|Omanyte|2|Rock|Water|1|19|19|10|10|10|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|139|Omastar|2|Rock|Water|1|19|19|FRLG=1|10|10|10|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|158|Totodile|1|Water|Water|no|13|13|6|6|6|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|159|Croconaw|1|Water|Water|no|13|13|1, 6|1, 6|1, 6|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|160|Feraligatr|1|Water|Water|no|1, 13|1, 13|1, 6|1, 6|1, 6|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|170|Chinchou|2|Water|Electric|no|17|17|12|12|{{tt|1|XY}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{tt|12|ORAS}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|171|Lanturn|2|Water|Electric|no|17|17|12|12|{{tt|1|XY}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{tt|12|ORAS}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|183|Marill|2|Water|Fairy|no|10|10|10|10|B2W2=7|1||STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|184|Azumarill|2|Water|Fairy|no| 1, 10|1, 10|1, 10|1, 10|B2W2=7|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|186|Politoed|1|Water|Water|no|1|1|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|194|Wooper|2|Water|Ground|no|1|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|195|Quagsire|2|Water|Ground|no|1|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|199|Slowking|2|Water|Psychic|no|15|15|FRLG=13|11|9|9|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|211|Qwilfish|2|Water|Poison|no|19|19|FRLG=13|13|13|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|223|Remoraid|1|Water|Water|no|1|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|224|Octillery|1|Water|Water|no|1|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|230|Kingdra|2|Water|Dragon|no|1, 22|1, 22|1, 11|1, 11|{{tt|1|XY}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{tt|1, 13|ORAS}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|245|Suicune|1|Water|Water|no|11|C=no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|258|Mudkip|1|Water|Water|no|no|10|10|10|{{tt|10|XY}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{tt|4|ORAS}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|259|Marshtomp|2|Water|Ground|no|no|1, 10|1, 10|1, 10|{{tt|1, 10|XY}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{tt|1, 4|ORAS}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|260|Swampert|2|Water|Ground|no|no|1, 10|1, 10|1, 10|{{tt|1, 10|XY}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{tt|1, 4|ORAS}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|278|Wingull|2|Water|Flying|no|no|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|279|Pelipper|2|Water|Flying|no|no|1, 3|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|298|Azurill|2|Normal|Fairy|no|no|21|18|18|B2W2=7|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|320|Wailmer|1|Water|Water|no|no|10|7|7|7|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|321|Wailord|1|Water|Water|no|no|1, 10|1, 7|1, 7|1, 7|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|339|Barboach|2|Water|Ground|no|no|11|10|10|{{tt|10|XY}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{tt|9|ORAS}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|340|Whiscash|2|Water|Ground|no|no|11|10|10|{{tt|10|XY}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{tt|1, 9|ORAS}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|347|Anorith|2|Rock|Bug|no|no|19|13|13|{{tt|13|XY}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{tt|7|ORAS}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|348|Armaldo|2|Rock|Bug|no|no|1, 19|1, 13|1, 13|{{tt|1, 13|XY}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{tt|1, 7|ORAS}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|350|Milotic|1|Water|Water|no|no|1|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|351|Castform|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|10|10|10|10|STAB=&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|363|Spheal|2|Ice|Water|no|no|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|364|Sealeo|2|Ice|Water|no|no|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|365|Walrein|2|Ice|Water|no|no|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|366|Clamperl|1|Water|Water|no|no|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|369|Relicanth|2|Water|Rock|no|no|8|8|8|{{tt|8|XY}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{tt|1, 10|ORAS}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|370|Luvdisc|1|Water|Water|no|no|12|7|7|{{tt|7|XY}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{tt|4|ORAS}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|400|Bibarel|2|Normal|Water|no|no|no|15|15|15|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|418|Buizel|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|6|6|B2W2=15|15|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|419|Floatzel|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|6|6|B2W2=15|15|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|456|Finneon|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|6|6|6|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|457|Lumineon|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|1, 6|1, 6|1, 6|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|501|Oshawott|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|no|7|7|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|502|Dewott|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|no|1, 7|1, 7|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|503|Samurott|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|no|1, 7|1, 7|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|515|Panpour|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|no|10|10|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|550|Basculin|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|no|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|564|Tirtouga|2|Water|Rock|no|no|no|no|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|565|Carracosta|2|Water|Rock|no|no|no|no|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|580|Ducklett|2|Water|Flying|no|no|no|no|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|581|Swanna|2|Water|Flying|no|no|no|no|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|618|Stunfisk|2|Ground|Electric|no|no|no|no|no|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|688|Binacle|2|Rock|Water|no|no|no|no|no|4|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|689|Barbaracle|2|Rock|Water|no|no|no|no|no|4|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|690|Skrelp|2|Poison|Water|no|no|no|no|no|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|691|Dragalge|2|Poison|Dragon|no|no|no|no|no|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|692|Clauncher|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|no|no|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|693|Clawitzer|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|no|no|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Movefooter|Water|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===By {{pkmn|breeding}}===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveheader/Breed|Water|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Breed2|231|Phanpy|1|Ground|Ground|no|no|no|no|C={{MSP|134|Vaporeon}}{{MSP|194|Wooper}}{{MSP|195|Quagsire}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Breed2|270|Lotad|2|Water|Grass|no|{{MSP|007|Squirtle}}{{MSP|008|Wartortle}}{{MSP|009|Blastoise}}{{MSP|060|Poliwag}}{{MSP|061|Poliwhirl}}{{MSP|062|Poliwrath}}{{MSP|186|Politoed}}{{MSP|079|Slowpoke}}{{MSP|080|Slowbro}}{{MSP|199|Slowking}}{{MSP|116|Horsea}}{{MSP|117|Seadra}}{{MSP|230|Kingdra}}{{MSP|131|Lapras}}{{MSP|138|Omanyte}}{{MSP|139|Omastar}}{{MSP|158|Totodile}}{{MSP|159|Croconaw}}{{MSP|160|Feraligatr}}{{MSP|183|Marill}}{{MSP|184|Azumarill}}{{MSP|194|Wooper}}{{MSP|195|Quagsire}}{{MSP|223|Remoraid}}{{MSP|224|Octillery}}{{MSP|258|Mudkip}}{{MSP|259|Marshtomp}}{{MSP|260|Swampert}}{{MSP|278|Wingull}}{{MSP|279|Pelipper}}{{MSP|350|Milotic}}{{MSP|363|Spheal}}{{MSP|364|Sealeo}}{{MSP|365|Walrein}}{{MSP|366|Clamperl}}{{MSP|369|Relicanth}}|{{MSP|007|Squirtle}}{{MSP|008|Wartortle}}{{MSP|009|Blastoise}}{{MSP|054|Psyduck}}{{MSP|055|Golduck}}{{MSP|060|Poliwag}}{{MSP|061|Poliwhirl}}{{MSP|079|Slowpoke}}{{MSP|080|Slowbro}}{{MSP|199|Slowking}}{{MSP|116|Horsea}}{{MSP|117|Seadra}}{{MSP|230|Kingdra}}{{MSP|131|Lapras}}{{MSP|138|Omanyte}}{{MSP|139|Omastar}}{{MSP|158|Totodile}}{{MSP|159|Croconaw}}{{MSP|160|Feraligatr}}{{MSP|183|Marill}}{{MSP|184|Azumarill}}{{MSP|194|Wooper}}{{MSP|195|Quagsire}}{{MSP|223|Remoraid}}{{MSP|224|Octillery}}{{MSP|258|Mudkip}}{{MSP|259|Marshtomp}}{{MSP|260|Swampert}}{{MSP|278|Wingull}}{{MSP|279|Pelipper}}{{MSP|350|Milotic}}{{MSP|363|Spheal}}{{MSP|364|Sealeo}}{{MSP|365|Walrein}}{{MSP|366|Clamperl}}{{MSP|369|Relicanth}}|{{MSP|007|Squirtle}}{{MSP|008|Wartortle}}{{MSP|009|Blastoise}}{{MSP|054|Psyduck}}{{MSP|055|Golduck}}{{MSP|060|Poliwag}}{{MSP|061|Poliwhirl}}{{MSP|079|Slowpoke}}{{MSP|080|Slowbro}}{{MSP|199|Slowking}}{{MSP|116|Horsea}}{{MSP|117|Seadra}}{{MSP|230|Kingdra}}{{MSP|131|Lapras}}{{MSP|138|Omanyte}}{{MSP|139|Omastar}}{{MSP|158|Totodile}}{{MSP|159|Croconaw}}{{MSP|160|Feraligatr}}{{MSP|183|Marill}}{{MSP|184|Azumarill}}{{MSP|194|Wooper}}{{MSP|195|Quagsire}}{{MSP|223|Remoraid}}{{MSP|224|Octillery}}{{MSP|258|Mudkip}}{{MSP|259|Marshtomp}}{{MSP|260|Swampert}}{{MSP|278|Wingull}}{{MSP|279|Pelipper}}{{MSP|350|Milotic}}{{MSP|363|Spheal}}{{MSP|364|Sealeo}}{{MSP|365|Walrein}}{{MSP|366|Clamperl}}{{MSP|369|Relicanth}}{{MSP|564|Tirtouga}}{{MSP|565|Carracosta}}{{MSP|580|Ducklett}}{{MSP|581|Swanna}}|{{MSP|007|Squirtle}}{{MSP|008|Wartortle}}{{MSP|009|Blastoise}}{{MSP|054|Psyduck}}{{MSP|055|Golduck}}{{MSP|060|Poliwag}}{{MSP|061|Poliwhirl}}{{MSP|079|Slowpoke}}{{MSP|080|Slowbro}}{{MSP|199|Slowking}}{{MSP|116|Horsea}}{{MSP|117|Seadra}}{{MSP|230|Kingdra}}{{MSP|131|Lapras}}{{MSP|138|Omanyte}}{{MSP|139|Omastar}}{{MSP|158|Totodile}}{{MSP|159|Croconaw}}{{MSP|160|Feraligatr}}{{MSP|183|Marill}}{{MSP|184|Azumarill}}{{MSP|194|Wooper}}{{MSP|195|Quagsire}}{{MSP|223|Remoraid}}{{MSP|224|Octillery}}{{MSP|258|Mudkip}}{{MSP|259|Marshtomp}}{{MSP|260|Swampert}}{{MSP|278|Wingull}}{{MSP|279|Pelipper}}{{MSP|350|Milotic}}{{MSP|363|Spheal}}{{MSP|364|Sealeo}}{{MSP|365|Walrein}}{{MSP|366|Clamperl}}{{MSP|369|Relicanth}}{{MSP|564|Tirtouga}}{{MSP|565|Carracosta}}{{MSP|580|Ducklett}}{{MSP|581|Swanna}}{{MSP|690|Skrelp}}{{MSP|691|Dragalge}}{{MSP|692|Clauncher}}{{MSP|693|Clawitzer}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Movefooter|Water|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===By [[TM]]===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveheader/TM|Water|1|TM12|no|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|007|Squirtle|1|Water|Water|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|008|Wartortle|1|Water|Water|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|009|Blastoise|1|Water|Water|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|019|Rattata|1|Normal|Normal|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|020|Raticate|1|Normal|Normal|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|030|Nidorina|1|Poison|Poison|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|031|Nidoqueen|2|Poison|Ground|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|033|Nidorino|1|Poison|Poison|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|034|Nidoking|2|Poison|Ground|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|035|Clefairy|1|Normal|Normal|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|036|Clefable|1|Normal|Normal|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|039|Jigglypuff|1|Normal|Normal|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|040|Wigglytuff|1|Normal|Normal|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|052|Meowth|1|Normal|Normal|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|053|Persian|1|Normal|Normal|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|054|Psyduck|1|Water|Water|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|055|Golduck|1|Water|Water|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|060|Poliwag|1|Water|Water|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|061|Poliwhirl|1|Water|Water|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|062|Poliwrath|2|Water|Fighting|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|072|Tentacool|2|Water|Poison|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|073|Tentacruel|2|Water|Poison|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|079|Slowpoke|2|Water|Psychic|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|080|Slowbro|2|Water|Psychic|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|086|Seel|1|Water|Water|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|087|Dewgong|2|Water|Ice|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|090|Shellder|1|Water|Water|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|091|Cloyster|2|Water|Ice|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|098|Krabby|1|Water|Water|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|099|Kingler|1|Water|Water|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|104|Cubone|1|Ground|Ground|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|105|Marowak|1|Ground|Ground|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|108|Lickitung|1|Normal|Normal|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|112|Rhydon|2|Ground|Rock|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|113|Chansey|1|Normal|Normal|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|115|Kangaskhan|1|Normal|Normal|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|116|Horsea|1|Water|Water|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|117|Seadra|1|Water|Water|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|118|Goldeen|1|Water|Water|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|119|Seaking|1|Water|Water|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|120|Staryu|1|Water|Water|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|121|Starmie|2|Water|Psychic|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|124|Jynx|2|Ice|Psychic|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|130|Gyarados|2|Water|Flying|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|131|Lapras|2|Water|Ice|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|134|Vaporeon|1|Water|Water|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|138|Omanyte|2|Rock|Water|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|139|Omastar|2|Rock|Water|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|140|Kabuto|2|Rock|Water|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|141|Kabutops|2|Rock|Water|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|143|Snorlax|1|Normal|Normal|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|144|Articuno|2|Ice|Flying|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|147|Dratini|1|Dragon|Dragon|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|148|Dragonair|1|Dragon|Dragon|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|149|Dragonite|2|Dragon|Flying|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|150|Mewtwo|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/TM1|151|Mew|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|no|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Movefooter|Water|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In other games==&lt;br /&gt;
===[[Super Smash Bros.]] series===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]], {{sbw|Water Gun}} is {{DL|Pokémon Trainer (Super Smash Bros.)|Squirtle}}&#039;s Standard Special move. It charges up water and then squirts it at the opponent. It does not do damage, although it repels the foe.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===[[Pokémon Conquest]]===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Conquestmove&lt;br /&gt;
|type=Water&lt;br /&gt;
|grid={{Conquestmove/Grid/columns|span=2}}&lt;br /&gt;
|stars=2&lt;br /&gt;
|pow=24&lt;br /&gt;
|acc=100%&lt;br /&gt;
|users={{CSP|194|Wooper}} &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp; {{CSP|501|Oshawott}} &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp; {{CSP|515|Panpour}}&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Description===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedesc|Water}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrevmd|RB}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{gameabbrevmd|TDS}}|Inflicts damage on the target.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrevss|Conq}}|The enemy is blasted with a forceful shot of water.}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}{{left clear}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In the anime==&lt;br /&gt;
{{moveanime|type=water|exp=yes|gen=The foe is blasted with a forceful shot of water.|image1=Ash Buizel Water Gun.png|image1p=Buizel|image2=Cissy Seadra Water Gun.png|image2p=Seadra|image3=Ash Squirtle Water Gun.png|image3p=Squirtle|image4={{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 2}}|0=Burgundy Dewott|1=Dewott}} Water Gun.png|image4p=Dewott}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=120|pkmn=Staryu|method=Staryu releases a spiral of water from the tip of its top-most limb at the opponent. It can also release the water from all of its limbs at once.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Misty&#039;s Staryu|startcode=EP006|startname=Clefairy and the Moon Stone|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Juan|user1=Juan&#039;s Staryu|startcode=AG109|startname=The Great Eight Fate!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=121|pkmn=Starmie|method=Starmie releases a spiral of water from the tip of its uppermost limb at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Misty&#039;s Starmie|startcode=EP009|startname=The School of Hard Knocks}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Starmie (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Starmie|startcode=PK01|startname=Pikachu&#039;s Vacation}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Starmie (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer&#039;s Starmie|startcode=EP086|startname=Pikachu Re-Volts}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Rudy|user1=Rudy&#039;s Starmie|startcode=EP103|startname=Misty Meets Her Match}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Jessie|user1=Jessie&#039;s Starmie|startcode=AG156|startname=From Cradle to Save}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=007|pkmn=Squirtle|method=Squirtle releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Ash&#039;s Squirtle|startcode=EP012|startname=Here Comes the Squirtle Squad}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Squirtle Squad|user1=The Squirtle Squad|startcode=EP012|startname=Here Comes the Squirtle Squad}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Pokémon League entrance exam instructor|user1=Pokémon League entrance exam instructor&#039;s Squirtle|startcode=EP056|startname=The Ultimate Test}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Squirtle (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Squirtle|startcode=EP060|startname=Beach Blank-Out Blastoise}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Captain Aidan|user1=Team Squirtle|startcode=EP106|startname=Pokémon Water War}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Professor Oak (anime)|user1=A Squirtle brought by Professor Oak|startcode=AG071|startname=A Six Pack Attack!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=May&#039;s Squirtle|startcode=AG139|startname=On Cloud Arcanine}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Team Go-Getters|user1=Squirtle of Team Go-Getters|startcode=SS019|startname=Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Team Go-Getters out of the Gate}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Squirtle (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Squirtle|startcode=PK24|startname=Meloetta&#039;s Moonlight Serenade}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Tierno (anime)|user1=Tierno&#039;s Squirtle|startcode=XY039|startname=Summer of Discovery!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=054|pkmn=Psyduck|method=Psyduck releases a small stream of water from its bill at the opponent, or Psyduck releases a spiral of water from its bill at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Misty&#039;s Psyduck|startcode=EP040|startname=The Battling Eevee Brothers}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Psyduck (Pokémon)|user1=Three wild Psyduck|startcode=DP087|startname=The Psyduck Stops Here!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Psyduck (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Psyduck|startcode=PK24|startname=Meloetta&#039;s Moonlight Serenade}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=008|pkmn=Wartortle|method=Wartortle releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Wartortle (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Wartortle|startcode=EP060|startname=Beach Blank-Out Blastoise}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Wartortle (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer&#039;s Wartortle|startcode=EP086|startname=Pikachu Re-Volts}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Team Wartortle|startcode=EP106|startname=Pokémon Water War}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=May&#039;s Wartortle|startcode=DP077|startname=Staging a Heroes&#039; Welcome!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Tierno (anime)|user1=Tierno&#039;s Wartortle|startcode=XY065|startname=Good Friends, Great Training!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=073|pkmn=Tentacruel|method=Tentacruel releases two spirals of water from the sides of the large blue stinger on its face at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Tentacruel (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer&#039;s Tentacruel|startcode=EP075|startname=Round One - Begin!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Cassidy|user1=Cassidy&#039;s Tentacruel|startcode=SS018|startname=The Search for the Legend}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=099|pkmn=Kingler|method=Kingler releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Ash&#039;s Kingler|startcode=EP075|startname=Round One - Begin!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=060|pkmn=Poliwag|method=Poliwag releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Poliwag (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer&#039;s Poliwag|startcode=EP086|startname=Pikachu Re-volts}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Misty&#039;s Poliwag|startcode=EP110|startname=The Stun Spore Detour}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Max|user1=A Poliwag Max borrowed from the Pokémon Trainer&#039;s School|startcode=AG015|startname=Gonna Rule the School!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Meredith|user1=Meredith&#039;s two Poliwag|startcode=M09|startname=Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Poliwag (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Poliwag|startcode=DP007|startname=Like it or Lup it!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=134|pkmn=Vaporeon|method=Vaporeon releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Vaporeon (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer&#039;s Vaporeon|startcode=EP086|startname=Pikachu Re-Volts}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Vaporeon (Pokémon)|user1=Team Vaporeon|startcode=EP147|startname=The Fire-Ring Squad}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Kimono Girl|user1=Sumomo&#039;s Vaporeon|startcode=EP183|startname=Trouble&#039;s Brewing}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Vaporeon (Pokémon)|user1=A Coordinator&#039;s Vaporeon|startcode=AG122|startname=Deceit and Assist}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Vaporeon (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Vaporeon|startcode=PK25|startname=Eevee &amp;amp; Friends}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=119|pkmn=Seaking|method=Seaking releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Seaking (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer&#039;s Seaking|startcode=EP086|startname=Pikachu Re-volts}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=117|pkmn=Seadra|method=Seadra releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Cissy|user1=Cissy&#039;s Seadra|startcode=EP085|startname=Fit to be Tied}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Seadra (Pokémon)|user1=Two wild Seadra|startcode=EP206|startname=The Joy of Water Pokémon}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Juan|user1=Juan&#039;s Seadra|startcode=AG110|startname=The Great Eight Fate!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=091|pkmn=Cloyster|method=Cloyster releases a spiral of water from its mouth, the four corners of its shell, or all at once at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Mateo|user1=Mateo&#039;s Cloyster|startcode=EP087|startname=The Crystal Onix}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Butch|user1=Butch&#039;s Cloyster|startcode=SS018|startname=The Search for the Legend!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=183|pkmn=Marill|method=Marill releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Tracey&#039;s Marill|startcode=EP090|startname=Stage Fight!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Wilhomena|user1=Wilhomena&#039;s Marill|startcode=EP132|startname=For Crying Out Loud}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Pietra|user1=Pietra&#039;s Marill|startcode=EP204|startname=Right On, Rhydon!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Marill (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Marill|startcode=AG002|startname=A Ruin with a View}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Solana|user1=A Marill captured by Solana&#039;s Capture Styler|startcode=M09|startname=Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Lulu (DP137)|user1=Lulu&#039;s Marill|startcode=DP137|startname=Three Sides to Every Story!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Lyra&#039;s Marill|startcode=DP143|startname=An Egg Scramble!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=055|pkmn=Golduck|method=Golduck releases a spiral of water from its bill at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Golduck (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Golduck|startcode=EP091|startname=Bye Bye Psyduck}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Golduck (Pokémon)|user1=Team Golduck|startcode=EP147|startname=The Fire-Ring Squad}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Trixie|user1=Trixie&#039;s Golduck|startcode=EP153|startname=Love, Totodile Style}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Trinity|user1=Trinity&#039;s Golduck|startcode=EP217|startname=The Perfect Match!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Golduck (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Golduck|startcode=DP007|startname=Like it or Lup it!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=062|pkmn=Poliwrath|method=Poliwrath releases a spiral of water from the swirl on its stomach at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Tad|user1=Tad&#039;s Poliwrath|startcode=EP105|startname=Charizard Chills}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Andreas|user1=Andreas&#039;s Poliwrath|startcode=EP168|startname=Hook, Line, and Stinker}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Chuck|user1=Chuck&#039;s Poliwrath|startcode=EP209|startname=Machoke, Machoke Man!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Delaney|user1=Delaney&#039;s Poliwrath|startcode=EP247|startname=Outrageous Fortunes}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=131|pkmn=Lapras|method=Lapras releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Ash&#039;s Lapras|startcode=EP111|startname=Hello, Pummelo!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Lapras (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Lapras|startcode=EP113|startname=Viva Las Lapras}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Lapras (Pokémon)|user1=Three wild Lapras|startcode=XY049|startname=Bonnie for the Defense!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=149|pkmn=Dragonite|method=Dragonite releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Drake (Orange League)|user1=Drake&#039;s Dragonite|startcode=EP112|startname=Enter the Dragonite}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=118|pkmn=Goldeen|method=Goldeen releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Misty&#039;s Goldeen|startcode=EP113|startname=Viva Las Lapras}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Juan|user1=Juan&#039;s Goldeen|startcode=AG110|startname=The Great Eight Fate!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=158|pkmn=Totodile|method=Totodile releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Professor Elm|user1=A Totodile to be given away by Professor Elm|startcode=EP117|startname=Don&#039;t Touch that &#039;dile&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Ash&#039;s Totodile|startcode=EP151|startname=The Totodile Duel}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Totodile (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Totodile|startcode=M12|startname=Arceus and the Jewel of Life}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Khoury&#039;s Totodile|startcode=DP143|startname=An Egg Scramble!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Totodile (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Totodile|startcode=PK24|startname=Meloetta&#039;s Moonlight Serenade}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=195|pkmn=Quagsire|method=Quagsire releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Quagsire (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Quagsire|startcode=EP127|startname=Once in a Blue Moon}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Lisa (M03)|user1=Lisa&#039;s Quagsire|startcode=M03|startname=Spell of the Unown: Entei}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Quagsire (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Quagsire|startcode=DP007|startname=Like it or Lup it!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Professor Kodama|user1=Professor Kodama&#039;s Quagsire|startcode=DP149|startname=Sticking With Who You Know!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Quagsire (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Quagsire|startcode=XY069|startname=Defending the Homeland!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=184|pkmn=Azumarill|method=Azumarill releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Trixie|user1=Trixie&#039;s Azumarill|startcode=EP153|startname=Love, Totodile Style}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Azumarill (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Azumarill|startcode=Trouble in Big Town|startname=Trouble in Big Town!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Vincent|user1=Jackson&#039;s Azumarill|startcode=EP268|startname=Tie One On!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Azumarill (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Azumarill|startcode=AG002|startname=A Ruin with a View}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Solana|user1=An Azumarill captured by Solana&#039;s Capture Styler|startcode=M09|startname=Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Officer Jenny|user1=Officer Jenny&#039;s Azumarill|startcode=BW129|startname=The Pirates of Decolore!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=061|pkmn=Poliwhirl|method=Poliwhirl releases a spiral of water from the spiral on its stomach at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Misty&#039;s Poliwhirl|startcode=EP157|startname=The Fortune Hunters}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Poliwhirl (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Poliwhirl|startcode=EP225|startname=Bulbasaur... the Ambassador!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Meredith|user1=Meredith&#039;s Poliwhirl|startcode=M09|startname=Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=138|pkmn=Omanyte|method=Omanyte releases a spiral of water from under its tentacles at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Omanyte (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Omanyte|startcode=EP163|startname=Fossil Fools}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Omanyte (Pokémon)|user1=Canalave Gym&#039;s Omanyte|startcode=DP108|startname=Dealing with Defensive Types!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=139|pkmn=Omastar|method=Omastar releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Omastar (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Omastar|startcode=EP163|startname=Fossil Fools}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Omastar (Pokémon)|user1=The Canalave Gym&#039;s Omastar|startcode=DP108|startname=Dealing with Defensive Types!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=223|pkmn=Remoraid|method=Remoraid releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Remoraid (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Remoraid|startcode=EP185|startname=The Light Fantastic}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Remoraid (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Remoraid|startcode=EP206|startname=The Joy of Water Pokémon}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Remoraid (Pokémon)|user1=Two wild Remoraid|startcode=EP214|startname=Mantine Overboard!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Marcellus|user1=Multiple Remoraid trained by Marcellus|startcode=EP215|startname=Octillery the Outcast}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Remoraid (Pokémon)|user1=Two wild Remoraid|startcode=AG086|startname=Lights, Camerupt, Action!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Remoraid (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Remoraid|startcode=AG159|startname=Off the Unbeaten Path}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Remoraid (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Remoraid|startcode=BW124|startname=Danger, Sweet as Honey!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=159|pkmn=Croconaw|method=Croconaw releases a stream of water from its mouth at the opponent, or Croconaw releases a spiraling stream of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Dundee|user1=Dundee&#039;s Croconaw|startcode=M04|startname=Celebi: Voice of the Forest}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Wani-Wani|user1=Marina&#039;s Wani-Wani|startcode=The Legend of Thunder!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Ryan and Bryan|user1=Bryan&#039;s Croconaw|startcode=DP029|startname=The Champ Twins!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Croconaw (Pokémon)|user1=A Croconaw an Unknown Trainer used briefly|startcode=DP088|startname=Camping it Up!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Officer Jenny|user1=Officer Jenny&#039;s Croconaw|startcode=BW129|startname=The Pirates of Decolore!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=224|pkmn=Octillery|method=Octillery releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Marcellus|user1=Marcellus&#039;s Octillery|startcode=EP215|startname=Octillery the Outcast}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Officer Jenny|user1=Officer Jenny&#039;s Octillery|startcode=BW129|startname=The Pirates of Decolore!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=230|pkmn=Kingdra|method=Kingdra releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Christopher (EP216)|user1=Christopher&#039;s Kingdra|startcode=EP216|startname=Dueling Heroes}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=211|pkmn=Qwilfish|method=Qwilfish releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Harrison (EP216)|user1=Harrison&#039;s Qwilfish|startcode=EP216|startname=Dueling Heroes}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=170|pkmn=Chinchou|method=Chinchou releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Trinity|user1=Trinity&#039;s Chinchou|startcode=EP217|startname=The Perfect Match!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=160|pkmn=Feraligatr|method=Feraligatr releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Feraligatr (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer&#039;s Feraligatr|startcode=EP217|startname=The Perfect Match}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=186|pkmn=Politoed|method=Politoed releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Misty&#039;s Politoed|startcode=EP247|startname=Outrageous Fortunes}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Tammy (EP249)|user1=Tammy&#039;s Bean|startcode=EP249|startname=I Politoed Ya So!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Politoed (Pokémon)|user1=A Coordinator&#039;s Politoed|startcode=AG160|startname=Harley Rides Again}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=171|pkmn=Lanturn|method=Lanturn releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Dorian|user1=Dorian&#039;s Lanturn|startcode=EP256|startname=Just Add Water}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=258|pkmn=Mudkip|method=Mudkip releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Professor Birch|user1=A Mudkip to be given away by Professor Birch|startcode=AG001|startname=Get the Show on the Road!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Nicholai|user1=Nicholai&#039;s Mudkip|startcode=AG005|startname=In the Knicker of Time!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Brock&#039;s Mudkip|startcode=AG025|startname=A Mudkip Mission}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Mudkip (Pokémon)|user1=A wild baby Mudkip|startcode=AG025|startname=A Mudkip Mission}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Tommy (AG032)|user1=Tommy&#039;s Mudkip|startcode=AG032|startname=Abandon Ship!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Professor Birch|user1=A Mudkip brought by Professor Birch|startcode=AG071|startname=A Six Pack Attack!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=298|pkmn=Azurill|method=Azurill releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Azurill (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Azurill|startcode=AG002|startname=A Ruin with a View}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Juan|user1=Juan&#039;s Azurill|startcode=AG110|startname=The Great Eight Fate!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Misty&#039;s Azurill|startcode=AG133|startname=The Right Place and the Right Mime}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Solana|user1=An Azurill captured by Solana&#039;s Capture Styler|startcode=M09|startname=Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Normajean|user1=An Azurill under Normajean&#039;s care|startcode=DP190|startname=The Brockster Is In!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=279|pkmn=Pelipper|method=Pelipper releases a spiral of water from its beak at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Anthony (AG010)|user1=Anthony&#039;s Pelipper|startcode=AG010|startname=You Said a Mouthful!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Georgio|user1=Georgio&#039;s Pelipper|startcode=SS011|startname=A Date with Delcatty}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Pelipper (Pokémon)|user1=A Pokéringer&#039;s Pelipper|startcode=AG080|startname=That&#039;s Just Swellow}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Juan|user1=Juan&#039;s Pelipper|startcode=AG109|startname=The Great Eight Fate!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=270|pkmn=Lotad|method=Lotad releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Lotad (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Lotad|startcode=AG012|startname=A Lotad Lowdown}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Brock&#039;s Lotad|startcode=AG012|startname=A Lotad Lowdown}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Forsythia|user1=Forsythia&#039;s Lotad|startcode=DP025|startname=Oh Do You Know the Poffin Plan!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Lotad (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Lotad|startcode=M16|startname=Genesect and the Legend Awakened}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Lotad (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Lotad|startcode=XY069|startname=Defending the Homeland!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=194|pkmn=Wooper|method=Wooper releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Wooper (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Wooper|startcode=Trouble in Big Town|startname=Trouble in Big Town}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Wooper (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Wooper|startcode=DP007|startname=Like it or Lup it!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Wooper (Pokémon)|user1=Three wild Wooper|startcode=DP094|startname=Doc Brock!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Wooper (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Wooper|startcode=M16|startname=Genesect and the Legend Awakened}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Wooper (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Wooper|startcode=XY069|startname=Defending the Homeland!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=363|pkmn=Spheal|method=Spheal releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Marius (AG036)|user1=Marius&#039;s Spheal|startcode=AG036|startname=The Spheal of Approval}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=259|pkmn=Marshtomp|method=Marshtomp releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Nicholai|user1=Nicholai&#039;s Marshtomp|startcode=AG048|startname=Zigzag Zangoose!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Brock&#039;s Marshtomp|startcode=AG148|startname=A Chip Off the Old Brock}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=009|pkmn=Blastoise|method=Blastoise releases a spiral of water from one or both of its hydro cannons at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Blastoise (Pokémon)|user1=A Coordinator&#039;s Blastoise|startcode=AG062|startname=Disguise Da Limit}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Blastoise (Pokémon)|user1=A Coordinator&#039;s Blastoise|startcode=AG162|startname=Spontaneous Combusken!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Gary&#039;s Blastoise|startcode=DP045|startname=Ill-Will Hunting!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Tierno (anime)|user1=Tierno&#039;s Blastoise|startcode=XY090|startname=Tag Team Battle Inspiration!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=271|pkmn=Lombre|method=Lombre releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Brock&#039;s Lombre|startcode=AG063|startname=Take the Lombre Home}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=340|pkmn=Whiscash|method=Whiscash releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Nero|startcode=AG075|startname=Whiscash and Ash!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=086|pkmn=Seel|method=Seel releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Seel (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Seel|startcode=M07|startname=Destiny Deoxys}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=087|pkmn=Dewgong|method=Dewgong releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Dewgong (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Dewgong|startcode=M07|startname=Destiny Deoxys}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=366|pkmn=Clamperl|method=Clamperl releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Clamperl (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Clamperl|startcode=AG093|startname=Clamperl of Wisdom}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Nancy|user1=Nancy&#039;s Clamperl|startcode=AG095|startname=The Evolutionary War}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Keith (AG095)|user1=Keith&#039;s Clamperl|startcode=AG095|startname=The Evolutionary War}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=370|pkmn=Luvdisc|method=Luvdisc releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Caserin and Luverin|user1=Daisy&#039;s Luverin|startcode=SS016|startname=Luvdisc is a Many Splendored Thing!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Caserin and Luverin|user1=Misty&#039;s Caserin|startcode=SS016|startname=Luvdisc is a Many Splendored Thing!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Juan|user1=Juan&#039;s Luvdisc|startcode=AG110|startname=The Great Eight Fate!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=365|pkmn=Walrein|method=Walrein releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Shelly|user1=Shelly&#039;s Walrein|startcode=AG098|startname=The Scuffle of Legends}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Team Aqua Grunt (Trainer class)|user1=Team Aqua Grunts&#039; multiple Walrein|startcode=AG098|startname=The Scuffle of Legends}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=348|pkmn=Armaldo|method=Armaldo releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Armaldo (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Armaldo|startcode=AG102|startname=Where&#039;s Armaldo?}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=272|pkmn=Ludicolo|method=Ludicolo releases a spiral of water from its bill at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Brock&#039;s Ludicolo|startcode=AG105|startname=Beg, Burrow, and Steal}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Ludicolo (Pokémon)|user1=Three wild Ludicolo|startcode=DP007|startname=Like it or Lup it!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=368|pkmn=Gorebyss|method=Gorebyss releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Juan|user1=Juan&#039;s Gorebyss|startcode=AG110|startname=The Great Eight Fate!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=320|pkmn=Wailmer|method=Wailmer releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Juan|user1=Juan&#039;s Wailmer|startcode=AG109|startname=The Great Eight Fate!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Robin|user1=Robin&#039;s Wailmer|startcode=AG124|startname=Island Time}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=339|pkmn=Barboach|method=Barboach releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Juan|user1=Juan&#039;s Barboach|startcode=AG109|startname=The Great Eight Fate!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=278|pkmn=Wingull|method=Wingull releases a spiral of water from its beak at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Juan|user1=Juan&#039;s Wingull|startcode=AG110|startname=The Great Eight Fate!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=260|pkmn=Swampert|method=Swampert releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Dome Ace Tucker|user1=Tucker&#039;s Swampert|startcode=AG153|startname=Tactics Theatrics!!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=080|pkmn=Slowbro|method=Slowbro releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Solidad|user1=Solidad&#039;s Slowbro|startcode=AG181|startname=Thinning the Hoard!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=418|pkmn=Buizel|method=Buizel releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Ash&#039;s Buizel|startcode=DP034|startname=Buizel Your Way Out of This!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Soren and Rocko|user1=Soren&#039;s Buizel|startcode=BW099|startname=A Surface to Air Tag Battle Team!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=419|pkmn=Floatzel|method=Floatzel releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Kellyn|user1=A Floatzel Kellyn Captured with his Capture Styler|startcode=DP071|startname=Pokémon Ranger and the Kidnapped Riolu! Part 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=501|pkmn=Oshawott|method=Oshawott releases a stream of water from its mouth at the opponent. Sometimes, the stream of water spirals around as it fires at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Ash&#039;s Oshawott|startcode=BW002|startname=Enter Iris and Axew!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Nanette|user1=An Oshawott Nanette imagined|startcode=BW109|startname=New Places... Familiar Faces!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=502|pkmn=Dewott|method=Dewott releases a powerful stream of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Dewott (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer&#039;s Dewott|startcode=BW004|startname=The Battle Club and Tepig&#039;s Choice!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Burgundy|user1=Burgundy&#039;s Dewott|startcode=BW019|startname=A Connoisseur&#039;s Revenge!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=515|pkmn=Panpour|method=Panpour releases a stream of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Cress|user1=Cress&#039;s Panpour|startcode=BW005|startname=Triple Leaders, Team Threats!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Panpour (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer&#039;s Panpour|startcode=XY039|startname=Summer of Discovery!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=580|pkmn=Ducklett|method=Ducklett releases a stream of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Ducklett (Pokémon)|user1=Three wild Ducklett|startcode=BW020|startname=Dancing with the Ducklett Trio!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Aspertia Gym|user1=Aspertia Gym&#039;s Ducklett|startcode=BW111|startname=There&#039;s a New Gym Leader in Town!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Officer Jenny|user1=Officer Jenny&#039;s Ducklett|startcode=BW129|startname=The Pirates of Decolore!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=393|pkmn=Piplup|method=Piplup releases a stream of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Piplup (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Piplup|startcode=PK24|startname=Meloetta&#039;s Moonlight Serenade|notes=Piplup {{color2|{{water color dark}}|Anime move errors|cannot legally learn}} Water Gun}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=222|pkmn=Corsola|method=Corsola releases a stream of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Corsola (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Corsola|startcode=XY022|startname=Going for the Gold!|notes=Corsola {{color2|{{water color dark}}|Anime move errors|cannot legally learn}} Water Gun}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=692|pkmn=Clauncher|method=Clauncher releases a stream of water from one of its claws at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Rodman|user1=Rodman&#039;s Clauncher|startcode=XY022|startname=Going for the Gold!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=316|pkmn=Gulpin|method=Gulpin releases a stream of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Gulpin (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Gulpin|startcode=XY069|startname=Defending the Homeland!|notes=Gulpin {{color2|{{water color dark}}|Anime move errors|cannot legally learn}} Water Gun}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=688|pkmn=Binacle|method=Binacle releases a stream of water from it&#039;s mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtm|type=water|user=Edo|user1=Kobushi and Edo&#039;s Binacle|startcode=XY111|startname=Unlocking Some Respect!}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* In &#039;&#039;[[DP015|Shapes of Things to Come!]]&#039;&#039;, [[Paul]]&#039;s {{p|Azumarill}} was commanded to use Water Gun, but could not execute the move.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In the manga==&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Ash and Pikachu manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=water|exp=yes|gen=The user releases a stream of water at the target.|image1=Brock Mudkip Water Gun AP.png|image1p=Mudkip|image2=Ash Corphish Brock Marshtomp Water Gun AP.png|image2p=Corphish and Marshtomp}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=258|pkmn=Mudkip|method=Mudkip releases a stream of water at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Brock&#039;s Mudkip|startcode=SP22|startname=A Pokémon Battle Against An Entire Family?!|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=341|pkmn=Corphish|method=Corphish releases a stream of water from its mouth.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Ash&#039;s Corphish|startcode=SP35|startname=A &#039;Thank You&#039; That Transcends Time|notes=Corphish {{color2|{{water color dark}}|Manga move errors|cannot legally learn}} Water Gun}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=259|pkmn=Marshtomp|method=Marshtomp releases a stream of water from its mouth.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=water|user=Brock&#039;s Marshtomp|startcode=SP35|startname=A &#039;Thank You&#039; That Transcends Time}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In The Electric Tale of Pikachu manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=water|exp=yes|gen=The user releases a stream of water at the target.|image1=Misty Starmie EToP.png|image1p=Starmie}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=121|pkmn=Starmie|method=Starmie releases a stream of water from the gem on the center of its body or one of its appendages at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=water|user=Misty&#039;s Starmie|startcode=ET07|startname=Pikachu&#039;s Excellent Adventure|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Magical Pokémon Journey manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=Water|exp=yes|gen=The user shoots a powerful spray of water from its mouth.|image1=Squirtle Water Gun MPJ.png|image1p=Squirtle|image2=Totodile Water Gun MPJ.png|image2p=Totodile}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=Water|ms=007|pkmn=Squirtle|method=Squirtle shoots a powerful spray of water from his mouth.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=Water|user=Squirtle (MPJ)|user1=Squirtle|startcode=PPP07|startname=Adventuring the Stone|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=158|pkmn=Totodile|method=Totodile takes a deep breath, and then shoots out water from its mouth.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=water|user=Totodile (Pokémon)|user1=Totodile|startcode=PPP56|startname=The Happiness Clover}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the movie adaptations===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=water|exp=yes|gen=A stream of water is released by the user.&amp;lt;!--|image1=Ash Oshawott Water Gun M16 manga.png|image1p=Oshawott--&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=158|pkmn=Totodile|method=Totodile shoots out water from its mouth.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Ash&#039;s Totodile|startcode=Emperor of the Crystal Tower: Entei (manga)|startname=Emperor of the Crystal Tower: Entei|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=501|pkmn=Oshawott|method=Oshawott squirts water from its mouth.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=water|user=Ash&#039;s Oshawott|startcode=Genesect and the Legend Awakened (manga)|startname=Genesect and the Legend Awakened}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Pokémon + Nobunaga&#039;s Ambition ~ Ranse&#039;s Color Picture Scroll ~ manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=water|exp=yes|gen=The user slams their head into the opponent.|image1=Wooper Water Gun PNA.png|image1p=Wooper}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=194|pkmn=Wooper|method=Wooper shoots water from its mouth.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=water|user=Wooper (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Wooper|startcode=PNA1|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Movemanga|type=water|exp=yes|gen=The foe is blasted with a forceful shot of water.|image1=Blasty Water Gun.png|image1p=Blastoise|image2=Poli Poliwhirl Water Gun.png|image2p=Poliwhirl|image3=Bianca Oshawott Water Gun Adventures.png|image3p=Oshawott|image4=Polibo Water Gun.png|image4p=Politoed}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=061|pkmn=Poliwhirl|method=Poliwhirl releases a stream of water from its palm or the center of the spiral on its stomach at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Movemid|type=water|user=Poli|user1=Red&#039;s Poli|startcode=PS001|startname=A Glimpse of the Glow|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=134|pkmn=Vaporeon|method=Vaporeon releases a stream of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Vee|user1=Red&#039;s Vee|startcode=PS019|startname=Blame it on Eevee}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=062|pkmn=Poliwrath|method=Poliwrath releases a stream of water from its palm at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Poli|user1=Red&#039;s Poli|startcode=PS026|startname=Holy Moltres}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=009|pkmn=Blastoise|method=Blastoise releases a stream of water from its mouth or hydro cannons at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Blasty|user1=Green&#039;s Blasty|startcode=PS039|startname=Just a Spearow Carrier}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=138|pkmn=Omanyte|method=Omanyte releases a stream of water from under its tentacles at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Yellow (Adventures)|user1=Yellow&#039;s Omny|startcode=PS049|startname=As Gastly as Before}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=131|pkmn=Lapras|method=Lapras releases a stream of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Camper (Trainer class)|user1=Evan&#039;s Lapras|startcode=PS050|startname=Lapras Lazily}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=158|pkmn=Totodile|method=Totodile releases a spiral of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Silver&#039;s Totodile|startcode=PS098|startname=Totodile Rock}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=060|pkmn=Poliwag|method=Poliwag releases a stream of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Polibo|user1=Gold&#039;s Polibo|startcode=PS106|startname=How Do You Do, Sudowoodo?}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=159|pkmn=Croconaw|method=Croconaw releases a stream of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Silver&#039;s Croconaw|startcode=PS111|startname=Tyranitar War}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=230|pkmn=Kingdra|method=Kingdra releases a stream of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Silver (Adventures)|user1=Silver&#039;s Kingdra|startcode=PS111|startname=Tyranitar War}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=186|pkmn=Politoed|method=Politoed releases a stream of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Polibo|user1=Gold&#039;s Polibo|startcode=PS111|startname=Tyranitar War}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=258|pkmn=Mudkip|method=Mudkip releases a stream of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Mumu|user1=Ruby&#039;s Mumu|startcode=PS183|startname=Trying to Trounce Torchic}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=418|pkmn=Buizel|method=Buizel releases a stream of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Pearl (Adventures)|user1=Pearl&#039;s Zeller|startcode=PS406|startname=Halting Honchkrow}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=400|pkmn=Bibarel|method=Bibarel releases a stream of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Madame (Trainer class)|user1=Unknown Trainer&#039;s Bibarel|startcode=PS361|startname=Bombastic Bibarel &amp;amp; Heroic Hippopotas}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=501|pkmn=Oshawott|method=Oshawott releases a stream of water from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Bianca&#039;s Oshawott|startcode=PS469|startname=Welcome To Striaton City!!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=515|pkmn=Panpour|method=Panpour points its tail at the opponent and releases a stream of water from the middle bump at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=water|user=Cress|user1=Cress&#039;s Panpour|startcode=PS470|startname=Their First Gym Battle}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* The Pokédex revealed that {{adv|Green}}&#039;s [[Blasty]] knew Water Gun when it was a Wartortle in &#039;&#039;[[PS015|Wartortle Wars]]&#039;&#039;, but it was not shown using the move.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Pokémon Battle Frontier manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=Water|exp=yes|gen=The user sprays the foe with water from its mouth.|image1=Tucker Swampert Water Gun CBF.png|image1p=Swampert}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=Water|ms=260|pkmn=Swampert|method=Swampert sprays a large amount of water from its mouth.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=Water|user=Dome Ace Tucker|user1=Tucker&#039;s Swampert|startcode=CBF4|startname=Introducing the Frontier Brains!|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Pokémon Battle Stories manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=Water|exp=yes|gen=The user sprays the foe with water from its mouth.|image1=Oshawott Water Gun PBS.png|image1p=Oshawott}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=501|pkmn=Oshawott|method=Oshawott squirts water from its mouth.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=water|user=Oshawott (Pokémon)|user1=An Unknown Trainer&#039;s Oshawott|startcode=Pokémon Battle Stories|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Pokémon Gotta Catch &#039;Em All manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=Water|exp=yes|image1=Shu Wartortle Water Gun.png|image1p=Wartortle|image2=Shu Poliwag Water Gun.png|image2p=Poliwag|image3=Shu Quagsire Water Gun.png|image3p=Quagsire|image4=Rin Mareep Ran Politoed ThunderShock Water Gun GDZ.png|image4p=Politoed|gen=The user sprays the foe with a powerful stream of water.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=Water|ms=008|pkmn=Wartortle|method=Wartortle attacks the foe by shooting a powerful stream of water from its mouth.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=Water|user=Shu#Wartortle|user1=Shu&#039;s Wartortle|startcode=GDZ07|startname=Confronting the &amp;quot;Streetkicker&amp;quot;!|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=Water|ms=060|pkmn=Poliwag|method=Poliwag attacks the foe by shooting a powerful stream of water from its mouth.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=Water|user=Shu#Poliwag|user1=Shu&#039;s Poliwag|startcode=GDZ13|startname=The Forest Insect Hunt}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=Water|ms=194|pkmn=Wooper|method=Wooper attacks the foe by shooting a powerful stream of water from its mouth.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=Water|user=Shu#Wooper|user1=Shu&#039;s Wooper|startcode=GDZ47}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=Water|ms=186|pkmn=Politoed|method=Politoed attacks the foe by shooting a powerful stream of water from its mouth.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=Water|user=Rin and Ran|user1=Ran&#039;s Politoed|startcode=GDZ66}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=Water|ms=183|pkmn=Marill|method=Marill attacks the foe by shooting a powerful stream of water from its mouth.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=Water|user=Monk (GDZ)|user1=A Monk&#039;s Marill|startcode=GDZ67}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=Water|ms=195|pkmn=Quagsire|method=Quagsire attacks the foe by shooting a powerful stream of water from its mouth.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=Water|user=Shu#Quagsire|user1=Shu&#039;s Quagsire|startcode=GDZ72}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Pokémon Gold &amp;amp; Silver: The Golden Boys manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=water|exp=yes|gen=The user shoots water from the mouth.|image1=Gold Totodile Water Gun Golden Boys.png|image1p=Totodile|image2=Gold Croconaw Water Gun Golden Boys.png|image2p=Croconaw|image3=Gold Remoraid Water Gun Golden Boys.png|image3p=Remoraid|image4=Chris Wooper Water Gun Golden Boys.png|image4p=Wooper}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=158|pkmn=Totodile|method=Totodile shoots water from the mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Gold&#039;s Totodile|startcode=GB02|startname=Falkner The Bird Keeper&#039;s Challenge!!|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=159|pkmn=Croconaw|method=Croconaw shoots water from the mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Gold&#039;s Croconaw|startcode=GB16|startname=The New Pokémon Is Hatched!!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=223|pkmn=Remoraid|method=Remoraid shoots water from the mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Gold (Golden Boys)|user1=Gold&#039;s Remoraid|startcode=GB20|startname=A Serious Crisis!! The Battle With The Lugia}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=194|pkmn=Wooper|method=Wooper shoots water from the mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=water|user=Chris (Golden Boys)|user1=Chris&#039;s Wooper|startcode=GB20|startname=A Serious Crisis!! The Battle With The Lugia}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Pocket Monsters HGSS Jō&#039;s Big Adventure manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=water|exp=yes|gen=The user shoots water from the mouth.|image1=Jou Totodile Water Gun.png|image1p=Totodile}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=158|pkmn=Totodile|method=Totodile shoots water from the mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=water|user=Jō&#039;s Totodile|startcode=JBA1|startname=Aim to be the Strongest! The Hot-Blooded Brotherly Combination!!|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Blazing Exploration Team manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=water|exp=yes|gen=The user shoots water from the mouth.|image1=Totodile Water Gun BET.png|image1p=Totodile}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=158|pkmn=Totodile|method=Totodile shoots water from the mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=water|user=Totodile (Blazing Exploration Team)|user1=Totodile|startcode=BET1|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Ginji&#039;s Rescue Team! manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=Water|exp=yes|gen=The user sprays the foe with water from its mouth.|image1=Mudkip Water Gun GRT.png|image1p=Mudkip}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=Water|ms=258|pkmn=Mudkip|method=Mudkip sprays water from its mouth.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=Water|user=Mudkip (Ginji&#039;s Rescue Team)|user1=A wild Mudkip|startcode=GRT1|startname=Pokémon to the Rescue!|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Pokémon Pocket Monsters manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=water|exp=yes|gen=The user shoots water from the mouth.|image1=Silver Totodile Water Gun PM.png|image1p=Totodile|image2=Swampert Water Gun PMRS.png|image2p=Swampert}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=158|pkmn=Totodile|method=Totodile shoots water from the mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=water|user=Silver (Pocket Monsters)|user1=Silver&#039;s Totodile|startcode=PM065|startname=Clefairy, the Battle Instructor|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=water|ms=260|pkmn=Swampert|method=Swampert shoots water from the mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=water|user=Pokémon poacher|user1=A Pokémon Hunter&#039;s Swampert|startcode=PMRS32|startname=A Visitor From Outer Space?!}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Pokémon Zensho manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=Water|exp=yes|image1=Shigeru Squirtle Water Gun Zensho.png|image1p=Squirtle|gen=The user shoots a powerful spray of water from its mouth.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=Water|ms=007|pkmn=Squirtle|method=Squirtle shoots a powerful spray of water from his mouth.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=Water|user=Shigeru (Zensho)|user1=Shigeru&#039;s Squirtle|startcode=PZ01|startname=Prologue: Pallet Town|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In other generations==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Movegen|&lt;br /&gt;
type=water|&lt;br /&gt;
genI=Water Gun I|&lt;br /&gt;
genII=Water Gun II|&lt;br /&gt;
genIII=Water Gun III|&lt;br /&gt;
genIV=Water Gun IV|&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Movegen|&lt;br /&gt;
type=water|&lt;br /&gt;
genV=Water Gun V|&lt;br /&gt;
PMDRB=Water Gun PMD RB|&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Movegen|&lt;br /&gt;
type=water|&lt;br /&gt;
Stad=Water Gun Stad|&lt;br /&gt;
Stad2=Water Gun Stad2|&lt;br /&gt;
Colo=Water Gun Colo|&lt;br /&gt;
XD=Water Gun XD|&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* The [[glitch Pokémon]] [[MissingNo.]] is able to learn [[move duplication|two copies]] of this move at the same time.&lt;br /&gt;
* Water Gun was the first move shown to be used in the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In other languages==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Langtable|color={{water color}}|bordercolor={{water color dark}}&lt;br /&gt;
|zh_cmn=水槍 &#039;&#039;{{tt|Shuǐqiāng|Water Gun}}&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|cs=Vodní dělo&lt;br /&gt;
|da=Vandkanon&amp;lt;!--source: Danish version of The Official Pokémon Handbook--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|nl=Waterkanon&lt;br /&gt;
|fi=Vesipyssy&lt;br /&gt;
|fr=Pistolet à {{tt|O|Eau}}&lt;br /&gt;
|de=Aquaknarre&lt;br /&gt;
|el=Νεροβόλο &#039;&#039;Nerobólo&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|hi=पानी की बन्दूक &#039;&#039;Paani Ki Bandook&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|id=Senapan Air&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Pistol Air&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Meriam Air&lt;br /&gt;
|it=Pistolacqua&lt;br /&gt;
|ko=물대포 Mul Daepo&lt;br /&gt;
|pl=Wodna Broń&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Wodny Bicz{{tt|*|EP043}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Armatka Wodna&lt;br /&gt;
|pt_br=Jato de Água&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Revólver d&#039;Água (&#039;&#039;XY&#039;&#039; Series, TCG, and manga)&lt;br /&gt;
|pt_eu=Jato D&#039;água&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Pistola d&#039;água&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Arma de água&lt;br /&gt;
|ro=Pistolul cu Apă&lt;br /&gt;
|ru=Водомёт &#039;&#039;Vodomyot&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|sr=Vodena Puška&lt;br /&gt;
|es_eu=Pistola Agua&lt;br /&gt;
|es_la=Chorro de agua&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Pistola de agua (Season 10, 12 and 13 some episodes)&lt;br /&gt;
|sv=Vattenpistol&lt;br /&gt;
|tr=Su Silahı}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Generation I TMs}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Gust|Water}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[de:Aquaknarre]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[fr:Pistolet à O]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[it:Pistolacqua (mossa)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[ja:みずでっぽう]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[pl:Water Gun]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[zh:水枪（招式）]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Scratch_(move)&amp;diff=2455486</id>
		<title>Scratch (move)</title>
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		<updated>2016-06-08T05:29:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: Changed &amp;quot;move variations&amp;quot; template to reflect the proper move.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{MoveInfobox|&lt;br /&gt;
n=10 |&lt;br /&gt;
name=Scratch |&lt;br /&gt;
jname=ひっかく |&lt;br /&gt;
jtranslit=Hikkaku |&lt;br /&gt;
jtrans=Scratch |&lt;br /&gt;
gameimage=Scratch.png |&lt;br /&gt;
gameimagewidth=300px |&lt;br /&gt;
type=Normal |&lt;br /&gt;
damagecategory=Physical |&lt;br /&gt;
basepp=35 |&lt;br /&gt;
maxpp=56 |&lt;br /&gt;
power=40 |&lt;br /&gt;
accuracy=100 |&lt;br /&gt;
gen=I |&lt;br /&gt;
category=Tough |&lt;br /&gt;
appeal=4 |&lt;br /&gt;
jam=0 |&lt;br /&gt;
cdesc=A highly appealing move. |&lt;br /&gt;
appealsc=3 |&lt;br /&gt;
scdesc=A basic performance using a move known by the Pokémon. |&lt;br /&gt;
appeal6=4 |&lt;br /&gt;
jam6=0 |&lt;br /&gt;
cdesc6=Quite an appealing move. |&lt;br /&gt;
pokefordex=scratch |&lt;br /&gt;
touches=yes |&lt;br /&gt;
protect=yes |&lt;br /&gt;
magiccoat=no |&lt;br /&gt;
snatch=no |&lt;br /&gt;
brightpowder=yes |&lt;br /&gt;
kingsrock=yes |&lt;br /&gt;
flag7=yes |&lt;br /&gt;
flag8=no |&lt;br /&gt;
sound=no |&lt;br /&gt;
target=anyadjacent|&lt;br /&gt;
footnotes= }}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Scratch&#039;&#039;&#039; (Japanese: &#039;&#039;&#039;{{tt|ひっかく|Hikkaku}}&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Scratch&#039;&#039;) is a damage-dealing {{type|Normal}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation I]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Effect==&lt;br /&gt;
Scratch inflicts damage and has no secondary effect.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Description==&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedesc|normal}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrevss|Stad}}{{gameabbrevss|Stad2}}|A &amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;Normal&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;-type attack. Sharp claws are used to inflict damage on the target.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev2|GSC}}|Scratches with sharp claws.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|RSE}}|Scratches the foe with sharp claws.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|FRLG}}|Hard, pointed, and sharp claws rake the foe.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrevss|Colo}}{{gameabbrevss|XD}}|Scratches the target with sharp claws.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev4|DPPtHGSS}}|Hard, pointed, and sharp claws rake the foe to inflict damage.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev5|BWB2W2}}|Hard, pointed, and sharp claws rake the target to inflict damage.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev6|XYORAS}}|Hard, pointed, sharp claws rake the target to inflict damage.}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}{{left clear}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Learnset==&lt;br /&gt;
===By [[Level|leveling up]]===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveheader/Level|Normal|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|004|Charmander|1|Fire|Fire|1|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|005|Charmeleon|1|Fire|Fire|1|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|006|Charizard|2|Fire|Flying|1|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|027|Sandshrew|1|Ground|Ground|1|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|028|Sandslash|1|Ground|Ground|1|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|029|Nidoran♀|1|Poison|Poison|8|8|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|030|Nidorina|1|Poison|Poison|1, 8|8|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|031|Nidoqueen|2|Poison|Ground|1, 8|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|046|Paras|2|Bug|Grass|1|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|047|Parasect|2|Bug|Grass|1|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|050|Diglett|1|Ground|Ground|1|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|051|Dugtrio|1|Ground|Ground|1|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|052|Meowth|1|Normal|Normal|1|1|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|053|Persian|1|Normal|Normal|1|1|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|054|Psyduck|1|Water|Water|1|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|055|Golduck|1|Water|Water|1|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|056|Mankey|1|Fighting|Fighting|1|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|057|Primeape|1|Fighting|Fighting|1|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|140|Kabuto|2|Rock|Water|1|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|141|Kabutops|2|Rock|Water|1|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|158|Totodile|1|Water|Water|no|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|159|Croconaw|1|Water|Water|no|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|160|Feraligatr|1|Water|Water|no|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|161|Sentret|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|162|Furret|1|Normal|Normal|no|1|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|190|Aipom|1|Normal|Normal|no|1|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|215|Sneasel|2|Dark|Ice|no|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|216|Teddiursa|1|Normal|Normal|no|1|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|217|Ursaring|1|Normal|Normal|no|1|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|255|Torchic|1|Fire|Fire|no|no|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|256|Combusken|2|Fire|Fighting|no|no|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|257|Blaziken|2|Fire|Fighting|no|no|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|287|Slakoth|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|288|Vigoroth|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|289|Slaking|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|290|Nincada|2|Bug|Ground|no|no|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|291|Ninjask|2|Bug|Flying|no|no|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|292|Shedinja|2|Bug|Ghost|no|no|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|302|Sableye|2|Dark|Ghost|no|no|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|335|Zangoose|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|347|Anorith|2|Rock|Bug|no|no|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|348|Armaldo|2|Rock|Bug|no|no|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|352|Kecleon|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|359|Absol|1|Dark|Dark|no|no|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|390|Chimchar|1|Fire|Fire|no|no|no|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|391|Monferno|2|Fire|Fighting|no|no|no|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|392|Infernape|2|Fire|Fighting|no|no|no|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|424|Ambipom|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|431|Glameow|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|5|5|5|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|432|Purugly|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|1, 5|1, 5|1, 5|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|434|Stunky|2|Poison|Dark|no|no|no|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|435|Skuntank|2|Poison|Dark|no|no|no|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|461|Weavile|2|Dark|Ice|no|no|no|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|509|Purrloin|1|Dark|Dark|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|510|Liepard|1|Dark|Dark|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|511|Pansage|1|Grass|Grass|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|513|Pansear|1|Fire|Fire|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|515|Panpour|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|529|Drilbur|1|Ground|Ground|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|530|Excadrill|2|Ground|Steel|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|570|Zorua|1|Dark|Dark|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|571|Zoroark|1|Dark|Dark|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|610|Axew|1|Dragon|Dragon|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|611|Fraxure|1|Dragon|Dragon|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|612|Haxorus|1|Dragon|Dragon|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|621|Druddigon|1|Dragon|Dragon|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|624|Pawniard|2|Dark|Steel|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|625|Bisharp|2|Dark|Steel|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|653|Fennekin|1|Fire|Fire|no|no|no|no|no|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|654|Braixen|1|Fire|Fire|no|no|no|no|no|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|655|Delphox|2|Fire|Psychic|no|no|no|no|no|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|677|Espurr|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|no|no|no|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|678|Meowstic|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|no|no|no|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|688|Binacle|2|Rock|Water|no|no|no|no|no|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|689|Barbaracle|2|Rock|Water|no|no|no|no|no|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Movefooter|Normal|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In other games==&lt;br /&gt;
===Description===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedesc|normal}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrevmd|RB}}|Inflicts damage on the target.}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}{{left clear}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In the anime==&lt;br /&gt;
===In the main series===&lt;br /&gt;
{{moveanime|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The foe is hit by the user&#039;s sharp claws|image1=Ash Chimchar Scratch.png|image1p=Chimchar|image2=Cress Panpour Scratch.png|image2p=Panpour|image3=Serena Fennekin Scratch.png|image3p=Fennekin|image4=Iris Axew Scratch.png|image4p=Axew}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=052|pkmn=Meowth|method=Meowth scratches the opponent with its claws. Sometimes when it uses this move, its claws glow white and leave behind white trails of energy.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Meowth (Team Rocket)|user1=Meowth of Team Rocket|startcode=EP004|startname=Challenge of the Samurai|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=057|pkmn=Primeape|method=Primeape puts its hand in a fist and repeatedly scratches the opponent with its fist.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Ash&#039;s Primeape|startcode=EP029|startname=The Punchy Pokémon}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=054|pkmn=Psyduck|method=Psyduck charges at the opponent with its claws extended and scratches them.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Misty&#039;s Psyduck|startcode=EP032|startname=The Ninja Poké-Showdown}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=029|pkmn=Nidoran♀|method=Nidoran♀ repeatedly scratches the opponent with its claws.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Emily (EP100)|user1=Emily&#039;s Maria|startcode=EP100|startname=Wherefore Art Thou, Pokémon}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=028|pkmn=Sandslash|method=Sandslash repeatedly slashes the opponent with its claws.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Koji|user1=Koji&#039;s Sandslash|startcode=EP141|startname=Good Quil Hunting}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=158|pkmn=Totodile|method=Totodile scratches the opponent repeatedly with its claws.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Ash&#039;s Totodile|startcode=EP151|startname=The Totodile Duel}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=288|pkmn=Vigoroth|method=Vigoroth hits the opponent with its whole hand.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Norman|user1=Norman&#039;s Vigoroth|startcode=AG003|startname=There&#039;s no Place like Hoenn}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Marcel|user1=Marcel&#039;s Vigoroth|startcode=AG088|startname=The Garden of Eatin&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=302|pkmn=Sableye|method=Sableye scratches the opponent with its nails.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Cassidy|user1=Cassidy&#039;s Sableye|startcode=SS008|startname=Oaknapped!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=255|pkmn=Torchic|method=Torchic jumps up and scratches the opponent repeatedly with its two feet.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Nurse Joy|user1=Nurse Joy&#039;s Torchic|startcode=AG034|startname=Having a Wailord of a Time}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=287|pkmn=Slakoth|method=Slakoth scratches the opponent with its claws.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Marcel|user1=Marcel&#039;s Slakoth|startcode=AG088|startname=The Garden of Eatin&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Slakoth (Pokémon)|user1=A Coordinator&#039;s Slakoth|startcode=DP162|startname=Playing the Performance Encore!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=190|pkmn=Aipom|method=Aipom scratches the opponent with its hands.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Aipom (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Aipom|startcode=AG179|startname=Slaking Kong!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Ash&#039;s Aipom|startcode=AG179|startname=Slaking Kong!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=461|pkmn=Weavile|method=Weavile scratches the opponent with its claws.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Weavile (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Weavile|startcode=AG185|startname=Duels of the Jungle!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=390|pkmn=Chimchar|method=Chimchar scratches the opponent with its fingers, leaving behind white trails of energy.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Ash&#039;s Chimchar|startcode=DP003|startname=When Pokémon Worlds Collide!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=570|pkmn=Zorua|method=The end of one of Zorua&#039;s paws glows light blue and it swings the paw at the opponent, releasing a crescent blade of energy.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Zorua (M13)|startcode=M13|startname=Zoroark: Master of Illusions}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=515|pkmn=Panpour|method=The tips of one or both of Panpour&#039;s hands glow white and it scratches the opponent one or more times, leaving behind a white trail of energy.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Cress|user1=Cress&#039;s Panpour|startcode=BW005|startname=Triple Leaders, Team Threats!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=610|pkmn=Axew|method=Axew raises its claws in the air and one of them flashes white. It then scratches the opponent one or more times with both claws, leaving behind a white trail of energy.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Iris&#039;s Axew|startcode=BW009|startname=The Bloom Is on Axew!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=335|pkmn=Zangoose|method=Zangoose&#039;s claws glow white and it slashes the opponent with them.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Schwarz and Weiss|user1=Weiss&#039;s Zangoose|startcode=BW114|startname=Saving Braviary!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=678|pkmn=Meowstic|method=Meowstic extends the claws on one of its paws, or the claws on one of Meowstic&#039;s hands glow white. It then scratches the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Astrid|user1=Astrid&#039;s Meowstic|startcode=M17|startname=Diancie and the Cocoon of Destruction}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Heath (XY045)|user1=Heath&#039;s Meowstic|startcode=XY045|startname=Splitting Heirs!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Blake (XY045)|user1=Blake&#039;s Meowstic|startcode=XY045|startname=Splitting Heirs!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=653|pkmn=Fennekin|method=Fennekin scratches the opponent with one of its front paws, leaving a white trail of energy. Sometimes, it extends the claws.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Mirror Serena|user1=Mirror Serena&#039;s Fennekin|startcode=XY037|startname=The Cave of Mirrors!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Serena&#039;s Fennekin|startcode=XY038|startname=Forging Forest Friendships!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=215|pkmn=Sneasel|method=Sneasel raises its claws in the air and one of them flashes white. It then scratches the opponent one or more times with both claws, leaving behind a white trail of energy.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Pokémon Performer|user1=A Performer&#039;s Sneasel|startcode=XY080|startname=Performing with Fiery Charm!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=654|pkmn=Braixen|method=Braixen scratches the opponent with one of its front paws, leaving a white trail of energy.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Serena&#039;s Braixen|startcode=XY083|startname=Over the Mountain of Snow!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=310|pkmn=Manectric|method=One of the claws on one of Manectric&#039;s front paws glows white and it then charges towards the opponent to scratch the opponent with the same set of claws}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtm|type=normal|user=Celosia|user1=Celosia&#039;s Manectric|startcode=XY102|startname=Meeting at Terminus Cave!|notes=Manectric {{color2|{{normal color dark}}|Anime move errors|cannot legally learn}} Scratch.}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* In &#039;&#039;[[DP126|Classroom Training!]]&#039;&#039;, [[Jeremiah]] told his {{p|Skuntank}} to use Scratch, but due to it being incapacitated by [[James]]&#039;s {{TP|James|Carnivine}}&#039;s {{m|Vine Whip}}, it was unable to execute the move.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In Pokémon Origins===&lt;br /&gt;
{{moveanime|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The foe is hit by the user&#039;s sharp claws.|image1=Red Charmander Scratch PO.png|image1p=Charmander|image2=Red Charmeleon Scratch PO.png|image2p=Charmeleon}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=004|pkmn=Charmander|method=Charmander scratches the opponent with its claws.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Red&#039;s Charmander|startcode=PO01|startname=File 1 - Red|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=005|pkmn=Charmeleon|method=Charmeleon scratches the opponent with its claws, leaving behind a white trail of energy.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtm|type=normal|user=Red&#039;s Charmeleon|startcode=PO02|startname=File 2 - Cubone}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In the manga==&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Aim to Be a Card Master!! manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user scratches the opponent.|image1=Kenta Charmander Scratch.png|image1p=Charmander}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=tcg fire|ms=004|pkmn=Charmander|method=Charmander scratches the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=tcg fire|user=Kenta Minamii|user1=Kenta&#039;s Charmander|startcode=MCM1|startname=District Convention &amp;quot;Kenta, to the Open Sea&amp;quot;|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the How I Became a Pokémon Card manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user scratches the opponent.|image1=Giovanni Persian Scratch HIBAPC.png|image1p=Persian|image2=Nidoran f Scratch HIBAPC.png|image2p=Nidoran♀}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=tcg colorless|ms=053|pkmn=Persian|method=Persian scratches the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=tcg colorless|user=Giovanni&#039;s Persian|startcode=PW17|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=tcg grass|ms=029|pkmn=Nidoran♀|method=Nidoran♀ scratches the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=tcg grass|user=Nidoran (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer&#039;s Nidoran♀|startcode=PW34}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user scratches the opponent with its claws.|image1=Aibo Aipom Scratch.png|image1p=Aipom|image2=Silver Totodile Scratch.png|image2p=Totodile|image3=Giovanni Nidoqueen Scratch Adventures.png|image3p=Nidoqueen|image4=Sham Meowth Adventures.png|image4p=Meowth}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=031|pkmn=Nidoqueen|method=Nidoqueen scratches the opponent with one of its claws.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Giovanni (Adventures)|user1=Giovanni&#039;s Nidoqueen|startcode=PS088|startname=The Beedrill All and End All|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=190|pkmn=Aipom|method=Aipom scratches the opponent repeatedly with its two hands.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Aibo|user1=Gold&#039;s Aibo|startcode=PS091|startname=Murkrow Row}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=158|pkmn=Totodile|method=Totodile scratches the opponent with one of its claws.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Silver&#039;s Totodile|startcode=PS098|startname=Totodile Rock}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=052|pkmn=Meowth|method=Meowth sticks out both of its paws and it scratches the opponent with both of them.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=normal|user=Sham|user1=Sham&#039;s Meowth|startcode=PS268|startname=The Escape}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure! manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user scratches the opponent.|image1=Mars Purugly Scratch DPA.png|image1p=Purugly}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=432|pkmn=Purugly|method=Purugly raises its paw and scratches the foe with it.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=normal|user=Mars&#039;s Purugly|startcode=DPA03|startname=The Mystery Boy, Jun!!|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Pocket Monsters HGSS Jō&#039;s Big Adventure manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user scratches the foe with its claws.|image1=Jou Totodile Scratch.png|image1p=Totodile}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=158|pkmn=Totodile|method=Totodile scratches the foe leaving behind a trail of light.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=normal|user=Jō&#039;s Totodile|startcode=JBA1|startname=Aim to be the Strongest! The Hot-Blooded Brotherly Combination!!|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Blazing Exploration Team manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user scratches the foe.|image1=Honoo Scratch.png|image1p=Chimchar}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=390|pkmn=Chimchar|method=Chimchar scratches the foe with its hands.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=normal|user=Honō|startcode=BET1|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Pokémon Pocket Monsters manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user slams the foe with its claws.|image1=Green Charizard Scratch PM.png|image1p=Charizard|image2=Silver Totodile Scratch PM.png|image2p=Totodile|image3=Feraligatr Scratch PM.png|image3p=Feraligatr}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=006|pkmn=Charizard|method=Charizard slams the foe with its claws.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Green&#039;s Charizard|startcode=PM055|startname=The Pokémon Banana League (Part 2)|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=158|pkmn=Totodile|method=Totodile scratches the foe leaving behind a trail of light.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Silver (Pocket Monsters)|user1=Silver&#039;s Totodile|startcode=PM065|startname=Clefairy, the Battle Instructor}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=160|pkmn=Feraligatr|method=Feraligatr scratches the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=normal|user=Goldenrod Tunnel|user1=The Underground store owners&#039;s Feraligatr|startcode=PM082|startname=Don&#039;t Accuse Me!!}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In other generations==&lt;br /&gt;
{{movegen|&lt;br /&gt;
type=normal|&lt;br /&gt;
genI=Scratch I|&lt;br /&gt;
genII=Scratch II|&lt;br /&gt;
genIII=Scratch III|&lt;br /&gt;
genIV=Scratch IV|&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Movegen|&lt;br /&gt;
type=Normal|&lt;br /&gt;
genV=Scratch V|&lt;br /&gt;
PMDRB=Scratch PMD RB|&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Movegen|&lt;br /&gt;
type=Normal|&lt;br /&gt;
Stad=Scratch Stad|&lt;br /&gt;
Stad2=Scratch Stad2|&lt;br /&gt;
Colo=Scratch Colo|&lt;br /&gt;
XD=Scratch XD|&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In other languages==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Langtable|color={{normal color}}|bordercolor={{normal color dark}}&lt;br /&gt;
|zh_cmn=利爪 &#039;&#039;{{tt|Lìzhuǎ|Sharp Claw}}&#039;&#039;{{tt|*|Later anime}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;搔癢 &#039;&#039;{{tt|Sāoyǎng|Scratch}}&#039;&#039;{{tt|*|Early anime}}&lt;br /&gt;
|da=Kradse&amp;lt;!--source: Danish version of The Official Pokémon Handbook--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|nl=Krab&lt;br /&gt;
|fi=Raapaisu&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Raapiminen (AG series)&lt;br /&gt;
|fr=Griffe&lt;br /&gt;
|de=Kratzer&lt;br /&gt;
|el=Γρατσουνιά &#039;&#039;Gratsouniá&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|hi=पंजा मारो &#039;&#039;Panja Maaro&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt; खरोच मारो &#039;&#039;Kharoch Maaro&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; खुजली का हमला &#039;&#039;Khujli ka hamla&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|it=Graffio&lt;br /&gt;
|id=Cakar&lt;br /&gt;
|ko=할퀴기 &#039;&#039;Halkwigi&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|pl=Rysa&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Drapanie (season 11)&lt;br /&gt;
|pt=Arranhão&lt;br /&gt;
|sr=Grebanje&lt;br /&gt;
|es_eu=Arañazo&lt;br /&gt;
|es_la=Rasguño ([[EP029]]-DP)&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;Arañazo ([[BW005]]-present)&lt;br /&gt;
|ro=Zgârietura&lt;br /&gt;
|tr=Tırmalama&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Gust|Normal}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[de:Kratzer]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[fr:Griffe]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[it:Graffio (mossa)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[ja:ひっかく]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[pl:Scratch]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[zh:利爪（招式）]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pound_(move)&amp;diff=2455485</id>
		<title>Pound (move)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pound_(move)&amp;diff=2455485"/>
		<updated>2016-06-08T05:29:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: Changed &amp;quot;move variations&amp;quot; template to reflect the proper move.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;Pound redirects here. If you were looking for the currency used in the Pokémon world, see [[Pokémon Dollar]]. If you were looking for the weight measurement, see [[List of Pokémon by weight]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{MoveInfobox|&lt;br /&gt;
n=1 |&lt;br /&gt;
name=Pound |&lt;br /&gt;
jname=はたく |&lt;br /&gt;
jtranslit=Hataku |&lt;br /&gt;
jtrans=Strike |&lt;br /&gt;
gameimage=Pound.png |&lt;br /&gt;
gameimagewidth=300 |&lt;br /&gt;
type=Normal |&lt;br /&gt;
damagecategory=Physical |&lt;br /&gt;
basepp=35 |&lt;br /&gt;
maxpp=56 |&lt;br /&gt;
power=40 |&lt;br /&gt;
accuracy=100 |&lt;br /&gt;
category=Tough |&lt;br /&gt;
appeal=4 |&lt;br /&gt;
jam=0 |&lt;br /&gt;
cdesc=A highly appealing move. |&lt;br /&gt;
gen=I|&lt;br /&gt;
appealsc=3 |&lt;br /&gt;
scdesc=A basic performance using a move known by the Pokémon. |&lt;br /&gt;
appeal6=4 |&lt;br /&gt;
jam6=0 |&lt;br /&gt;
cdesc6=Quite an appealing move. |&lt;br /&gt;
pokefordex=pound |&lt;br /&gt;
touches=yes |&lt;br /&gt;
protect=yes |&lt;br /&gt;
magiccoat=no |&lt;br /&gt;
snatch=no |&lt;br /&gt;
mirrormove=yes |&lt;br /&gt;
kingsrock=yes |&lt;br /&gt;
flag7=yes |&lt;br /&gt;
flag8=no |&lt;br /&gt;
sound=no |&lt;br /&gt;
target=anyadjacent |&lt;br /&gt;
footnotes= }}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Pound&#039;&#039;&#039; (Japanese: &#039;&#039;&#039;{{tt|はたく|Hataku}}&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Strike&#039;&#039;) is a damage-dealing {{type|Normal}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation I]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Effect==&lt;br /&gt;
Pound inflicts damage and has no secondary effect.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Description==&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedesc|Normal}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrevss|Stad}}{{gameabbrevss|Stad2}}|A &amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;Normal&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;-type attack. Slightly stronger than &amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;{{m|Tackle}}&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;. Many &amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;Pokémon&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt; know this move.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev2|GSC}}|Pounds with forelegs or tail.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|RSE}}|Pounds the foe with forelegs or tail.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|FRLG}}|A physical attack delivered with a long tail or a foreleg, etc.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrevss|Colo}}{{gameabbrevss|XD}}|Pounds the target with forelegs or tail.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev4|DPPtHGSS}}|The foe is physically pounded with a long tail or a foreleg, etc.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev5|BWB2W2}}|The target is physically pounded with a long tail or a foreleg, etc.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev6|XYORAS}}|The target is physically pounded with a long tail, a foreleg, or the like.}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}{{left clear}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Learnset==&lt;br /&gt;
===By [[Level|leveling up]]===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveheader/Level|Normal|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|035|Clefairy|1|Fairy|Fairy|1|1|1|1|1|1|note=STAB prior to Gen VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|039|Jigglypuff|2|Normal|Fairy|9|9|9|9|9|{{tt|7|XY}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{tt|5|ORAS}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|088|Grimer|1|Poison|Poison|1|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|089|Muk|1|Poison|Poison|1|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|096|Drowzee|1|Psychic|Psychic|1|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|097|Hypno|1|Psychic|Psychic|1|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|113|Chansey|1|Normal|Normal|1|1|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|124|Jynx|2|Ice|Psychic|1|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|151|Mew|1|Psychic|Psychic|1|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|173|Cleffa|1|Fairy|Fairy|no|1|1|1|1|1|note=STAB prior to Gen VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|174|Igglybuff|2|Normal|Fairy|no|9|9|9|9|{{tt|9|XY}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{tt|5|ORAS}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|192|Sunflora|1|Grass|Grass|no|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|238|Smoochum|2|Ice|Psychic|no|1|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|242|Blissey|1|Normal|Normal|no|1|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|252|Treecko|1|Grass|Grass|no|no|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|253|Grovyle|1|Grass|Grass|no|no|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|254|Sceptile|1|Grass|Grass|no|no|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|274|Nuzleaf|2|Grass|Dark|no|no|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|275|Shiftry|2|Grass|Dark|no|no|1|no|no|no}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|293|Whismur|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|294|Loudred|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|295|Exploud|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|316|Gulpin|1|Poison|Poison|no|no|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|317|Swalot|1|Poison|Poison|no|no|1|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|393|Piplup|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|427|Buneary|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|428|Lopunny|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|440|Happiny|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|456|Finneon|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|457|Lumineon|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|1|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|531|Audino|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|no|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|532|Timburr|1|Fighting|Fighting|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|533|Gurdurr|1|Fighting|Fighting|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|534|Conkeldurr|1|Fighting|Fighting|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|568|Trubbish|1|Poison|Poison|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|569|Garbodor|1|Poison|Poison|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|572|Minccino|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|no|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|574|Gothita|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|575|Gothorita|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|576|Gothitelle|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|594|Alomomola|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|619|Mienfoo|1|Fighting|Fighting|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|620|Mienshao|1|Fighting|Fighting|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|622|Golett|2|Ground|Ghost|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|623|Golurk|2|Ground|Ghost|no|no|no|no|1|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|656|Froakie|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|no|no|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|657|Frogadier|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|no|no|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|658|Greninja|2|Water|Dark|no|no|no|no|no|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|694|Helioptile|2|Electric|Normal|no|no|no|no|no|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Movefooter|Normal}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In other games==&lt;br /&gt;
===[[Super Smash Bros.]] series===&lt;br /&gt;
{{SSB|Jigglypuff}} uses {{sbw|Pound}} as its neutral special move in [[Super Smash Bros.]] From [[Super Smash Bros. Melee]] onwards, Pound is its side special move, with {{m|Rollout}} becoming its neutral special move. It is mainly used as an alternate recovery move, since its up special move, {{m|Sing}}, does not help Jigglypuff recover. The move is also useful for breaking shields in [[Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS/Wii U]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===[[Pokémon Conquest]]===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Conquestmove&lt;br /&gt;
|type=Normal&lt;br /&gt;
|grid={{Conquestmove/Grid/columns}}&lt;br /&gt;
|stars=2&lt;br /&gt;
|pow=26&lt;br /&gt;
|acc=100%&lt;br /&gt;
|users={{CSP|174|Igglybuff}} &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;{{CSP|531|Audino}}&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Description===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedesc|Normal}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrevmd|RB}}|Inflicts damage on the target.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrevss|Conq}}|The target is physically pounded with a long tail or a foreleg, etc.}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}{{left clear}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In the anime==&lt;br /&gt;
{{moveanime|type=normal|gen=The opponent is physically hit by a body part of the user.|image1=Ash Grovyle Pound.png|image1p=Grovyle|image2=Normajean Igglybuff Cleffa.png|image2p=Igglybuff and Cleffa|image3=Brock Happiny Pound.png|image3p=Happiny|image4=Delbert Mienshao Pound.png|image4p=Mienshao}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=039|pkmn=Jigglypuff|method=Jigglypuff slaps the opponent across the face.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Jigglypuff (anime)|user1=Recurring Jigglypuff|startcode=EP062|startname=Clefairy Tales|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=035|pkmn=Clefairy|method=Clefairy slaps the opponent across the face.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Clefairy (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Clefairy|startcode=EP062|startname=Clefairy Tales}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=252|pkmn=Treecko|method=Treecko swings its tail and hits the opponent with it, or Treecko slams its hand on the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Ash&#039;s Treecko|startcode=AG007|startname=Tree&#039;s a Crowd}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Professor Birch|user1=A Treecko brought by Prof. Birch|startcode=AG071|startname=A Six Pack Attack!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=253|pkmn=Grovyle|method=Grovyle swings its head and hits the opponent with the large leaf on its head.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Ash&#039;s Grovyle|startcode=AG066|startname=Exploud and Clear}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=254|pkmn=Sceptile|method=Sceptile swings around and hits the opponent with its tail.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Ash&#039;s Sceptile|startcode=AG164|startname=Ka Boom with a View!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=440|pkmn=Happiny|method=One or both of Happiny&#039;s arms glow white and it strikes the opponent, leaving behind a white trail where it punched.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Brock&#039;s Happiny|startcode=DP062|startname=Tanks for the Memories!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Narissa|user1=Narissa&#039;s Ditto One in the form of Happiny|startcode=DP173|startname=Dealing With a Fierce Double Ditto Drama!|notes=Used via {{color2|{{normal color dark}}|Transform (move)|Transform}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Narissa|user1=Narissa&#039;s Ditto Two in the form of Happiny|startcode=DP173|startname=Dealing With a Fierce Double Ditto Drama!|notes=Used via {{color2|{{normal color dark}}|Transform (move)|Transform}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=393|pkmn=Piplup|method=One of Piplup&#039;s arms glows white and it strikes the opponent with it.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Tyler|user1=Tyler&#039;s Pippy|startcode=DP080|startname=The Thief That Keeps On Thieving!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=113|pkmn=Chansey|method=A quarter of Chansey&#039;s arm glows bright light-blue and it stabs the opponent with it.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Nurse Joy&#039;s Chansey|startcode=DP131|startname=Pedal to the Mettle!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=174|pkmn=Igglybuff|method=One of Igglybuff&#039;s arms glows white and it swings its arm, firing a while crescent blade of energy from its hand at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Normajean|user1=An Igglybuff under Normajean&#039;s care|startcode=DP190|startname=The Brockster Is In!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=173|pkmn=Cleffa|method=One of Cleffa&#039;s arms glows white and it swings its arm, releasing a white crescent blade of energy from its hand at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Normajean|user1=A Cleffa that was under Normajean&#039;s care|startcode=DP190|startname=The Brockster Is In!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=216|pkmn=Teddiursa|method=One of Teddiursa&#039;s arms glows white and it swings it, releasing a white crescent blade of energy from it at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Normajean|user1=A Teddiursa under Normajean&#039;s care|startcode=DP190|startname=The Brockster Is In!|notes=Teddiursa {{color2|6D6D4E|Anime move errors|cannot legally learn}} Pound}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=238|pkmn=Smoochum|method=One of Smoochum&#039;s arms glows white and it swings it, releasing a white crescent blade of energy from its arm at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Normajean|user1=A Smoochum under Normajean&#039;s care|startcode=DP190|startname=The Brockster Is In!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=620|pkmn=Mienshao|method=One of Mienshao&#039;s arm furs glows white and it swings it, releasing a white crescent blade of energy from its arm at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Delbert|user1=Delbert&#039;s Mienshao|startcode=BW071|startname=Search for the Clubultimate!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=656|pkmn=Froakie|method=One of Froakie&#039;s hands glows white and it strikes the opponent with it.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtm|type=normal|user=Ash&#039;s Froakie|startcode=XY015|startname=An Appetite for Battle!}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In the manga==&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Ash and Pikachu manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user pounds the opponent with its tail.|image1=Ash Treecko Pound AP.png|image1p=Treecko}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=252|pkmn=Treecko|method=Treecko pounds the opponent with its tail.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=normal|user=Ash&#039;s Treecko|startcode=SP19|startname=Trust In Each Other!!|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the How I Became a Pokémon Card manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user pounds the opponent with its arm.|image1=Jigglypuff Pound HIBAPC.png|image1p=Jigglypuff|image2=Drowzee Pound HIBAPC.png|image2p=Drowzee}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=039|pkmn=Jigglypuff|method=Jigglypuff pounds the opponent with its arm.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Jigglypuff (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer&#039;s Jigglypuff|startcode=PW20|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=096|pkmn=Drowzee|method=Drowzee pounds the opponent with its arm.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=normal|user=Drowzee (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer&#039;s Drowzee|startcode=PW22}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Magical Pokémon Journey manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=Normal|exp=yes|image1=Jigglypuff Body Slam Igglybuff Pound MPJ.png|image1p=Igglybuff|gen=The user pounds the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=Normal|ms=174|pkmn=Igglybuff|method=Igglybuff pounds the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=Normal|user=Jigglypuff (Pokémon)|user1=Igglybuff|startcode=PPP53|startname=The Accidental Treasure|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user slaps the opponent across the face.|image1=Lorelei Jynx Pound Adventures.png|image1p=Jynx|image2=Marshal Mienshao Pound Alder Accelgor Double Team Adventures.png|image2p=Mienshao}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=124|pkmn=Jynx|method=Jynx slaps the opponent across the face with one of its hands.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Lorelei|user1=Lorelei&#039;s Jynx|startcode=PS073|startname=Valiant Venomoth!|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=620|pkmn=Mienshao|method=Mienshao repeatedly attacks the opponent with its arms and legs.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=normal|user=Marshal|user1=Marshal&#039;s Mienshao|startcode=PS487|startname=A New Perspective}}&lt;br /&gt;
* In &#039;&#039;[[PS342|A Conk on Cranidos&#039;s Cranium]]&#039;&#039;, [[Platinum&#039;s Piplup]] was mentioned to know Pound.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Pokémon Battrio: Aim to be Battrio Master manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user pounds the foe with a part of its body.|image1=Ryuu Buneary Pound.png|image1p=Buneary}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=427|pkmn=Buneary|method=Buneary pounds the foe with its ears.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=normal|user=Ryū Tendō|user1=Ryū&#039;s Buneary|startcode=ABMS1|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure! manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user pounds the opponent with its arm.|image1=Hareta Piplup Pound.png|image1p=Piplup}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=393|pkmn=Piplup|method=Piplup pounds the opponent with its arm.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=normal|user=Hareta&#039;s Piplup|startcode=DPA02|startname=Hareta&#039;s Very First Pokémon Battle!!|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Pokémon Pocket Monsters manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user hits the foe with its arm.|image1=Red Clefairy Pound PMDP.png|image1p=Clefairy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=035|pkmn=Clefairy|method=Clefairy hits the foe with its arm.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=normal|user=Red&#039;s Clefairy|startcode=PMDP58|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In other generations==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Movegen|&lt;br /&gt;
type=normal|&lt;br /&gt;
genI=Pound I|&lt;br /&gt;
genII=Pound II|&lt;br /&gt;
genIII=Pound III|&lt;br /&gt;
genIV=Pound IV|&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Movegen|&lt;br /&gt;
type=Normal|&lt;br /&gt;
genV=Pound V|&lt;br /&gt;
PMDRB=Pound PMD RB|&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Movegen|&lt;br /&gt;
type=Normal|&lt;br /&gt;
Stad=Pound Stad|&lt;br /&gt;
Stad2=Pound Stad2|&lt;br /&gt;
Colo=Pound Colo|&lt;br /&gt;
XD=Pound XD|&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* In {{g|Platinum}}, {{m|Secret Power}} has the animation of Pound when used in the [[Distortion World]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Pound is the first move in the games by [[index number]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In other languages==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Langtable|color={{normal color}}|bordercolor={{normal color dark}}&lt;br /&gt;
|zh_cmn=拍擊 &#039;&#039;{{tt|Pāijí|Strike}}&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|cs=Rána&lt;br /&gt;
|da=Dunk&amp;lt;!--source: Danish version of The Official Pokémon Handbook--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|fi=Nuija (OS)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Mäjäys (AG)&lt;br /&gt;
|fr=Écras&#039;Face{{tt|*|Generation V onwards}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Ecras&#039;Face{{tt|*|Generations I-IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|de=Pfund&lt;br /&gt;
|el=Κοπάνισμα&lt;br /&gt;
|id=Pukul&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{tt|Tampar|Slap}}&lt;br /&gt;
|it=Botta{{tt|*|Generation III onwards}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Libbra{{tt|*|Generations I-II}}&lt;br /&gt;
|ko=막치기 &#039;&#039;Makchigi&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|nl=Slag&lt;br /&gt;
|pl=Grom&lt;br /&gt;
|pt_br=Tapa&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Pancada (TCG)&lt;br /&gt;
|pt_eu=Pancada&lt;br /&gt;
|sr=Udar&lt;br /&gt;
|es_eu=Destructor&lt;br /&gt;
|es_la=Destructor ([[EP062]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Mazo ([[AG007]]-[[AG065]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Golpe de Cresta{{tt|*|Grovyle}} ([[AG066]]-[[AG161]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Golpe de Cola{{tt|*|Birch&#039;s Treecko}} ([[AG071]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Golpe Recto ([[AG164]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Golpazo ([[AG191]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Golpe ([[DP062]]-present)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|ro=Greutatea&lt;br /&gt;
|tr=Vurma&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Gust|Normal}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[de:Pfund]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[fr:Écras&#039;Face]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[it:Botta (mossa)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[ja:はたく]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[pl:Pound]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[zh:拍击（招式）]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Gust_(move)&amp;diff=2455483</id>
		<title>Gust (move)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Gust_(move)&amp;diff=2455483"/>
		<updated>2016-06-08T05:27:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: Changed &amp;quot;move variations&amp;quot; template to reflect the proper move.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{MoveInfobox|&lt;br /&gt;
n=16 |&lt;br /&gt;
name=Gust |&lt;br /&gt;
jname=かぜおこし |&lt;br /&gt;
jtranslit=Kaze Okoshi |&lt;br /&gt;
jtrans=Stir Up Wind &amp;lt;!--Gust--&amp;gt; |&lt;br /&gt;
gameimage=Gust.png|&lt;br /&gt;
gameimagewidth=300px|&lt;br /&gt;
type=Flying |&lt;br /&gt;
damagecategory=Special |&lt;br /&gt;
basepp=35 |&lt;br /&gt;
maxpp=56 |&lt;br /&gt;
power=40 |&lt;br /&gt;
accuracy=100 |&lt;br /&gt;
category=Smart |&lt;br /&gt;
gen=I|&lt;br /&gt;
appeal=3 |&lt;br /&gt;
jam=0 |&lt;br /&gt;
cdesc=Scrambles up the order of appeals on the next turn. |&lt;br /&gt;
appealsc=3 |&lt;br /&gt;
scdesc=A basic performance using a move known by the Pokémon. |&lt;br /&gt;
category6=Clever |&lt;br /&gt;
appeal6=2 |&lt;br /&gt;
jam6=3 |&lt;br /&gt;
cdesc6=Startles the last Pokémon to act before the user. |&lt;br /&gt;
pokefordex=gust |&lt;br /&gt;
touches=no |&lt;br /&gt;
protect=yes |&lt;br /&gt;
magiccoat=no |&lt;br /&gt;
snatch=no |&lt;br /&gt;
brightpowder=yes |&lt;br /&gt;
kingsrock=yes |&lt;br /&gt;
flag7=no |&lt;br /&gt;
flag8=no |&lt;br /&gt;
sound=no |&lt;br /&gt;
target=any|&lt;br /&gt;
footnotes= }}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Gust&#039;&#039;&#039; (Japanese: &#039;&#039;&#039;{{tt|かぜおこし|Kaze Okoshi}}&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Stir Up Wind&amp;lt;!--Gust--&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;) is a damage-dealing {{type|Flying}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation I]]. Prior to [[Generation II]], it was a {{type|Normal}} move, and it was the [[signature move]] of the {{p|Pidgey}} evolutionary line prior to {{game|Yellow}}.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Effect==&lt;br /&gt;
===Generation I===&lt;br /&gt;
Gust deals damage and has no secondary effect.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is a {{type|Normal}} move in this generation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Generation II===&lt;br /&gt;
Gust can hit Pokémon during the semi-invulnerable turns of {{m|Fly}}, and if it does, it will deal double damage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gust is now a {{type|Flying}} move.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Generations III to IV===&lt;br /&gt;
Gust can hit Pokémon during the semi-invulnerable turn of {{m|Bounce}}, and if it does, it will deal double damage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Generation V===&lt;br /&gt;
Gust can hit Pokémon during the semi-invulnerable turn of {{m|Sky Drop}}, and if it does, it will deal double damage. It can also hit non-adjacent opponents in [[Triple Battle]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Description==&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedesc|flying}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrevss|Stad}}|A &amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;Normal&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;-type attack used by bird Pokémon. A powerful wind is generated by flapping wings.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrevss|Stad2}}|A &amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;Flying&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;-type attack. The bird &amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;Pokémon&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt; flaps its wings to create a powerful wind.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev2|GSC}}|Whips up a strong gust of wind.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|RSEFRLG}}|Strikes the foe with a gust of wind whipped up by wings.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrevss|Colo}}{{gameabbrevss|XD}}|Hits target with a gust of wind whipped up by wings.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev4|DPPtHGSS}}|A gust of wind is whipped up by wings and launched at the foe to inflict damage.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev5|BWB2W2}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{gameabbrev6|XYORAS}}|A gust of wind is whipped up by wings and launched at the target to inflict damage.}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}{{left clear}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Learnset==&lt;br /&gt;
===By [[Level|leveling up]]===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveheader/Level|Flying|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|012|Butterfree|2|Bug|Flying|no|Y=28|28|28|16|16|16|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;|note=No STAB in Gen I}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|016|Pidgey|2|Normal|Flying|1|9|9|9|9|9|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|017|Pidgeotto|2|Normal|Flying|1|1, 9|1, 9|1, 9|1, 9|1, 9|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|018|Pidgeot|2|Normal|Flying|1|1, 9|1, 9|1, 9|1, 9|1, 9|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|049|Venomoth|2|Bug|Poison|no|31|31|31|31|31}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|144|Articuno|2|Ice|Flying|no|1|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|245|Suicune|1|Water|Water|no|31|31|22|22|22}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|249|Lugia|2|Psychic|Flying|no|22|22|15|HGSS=9|9|9|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|250|Ho-Oh|2|Fire|Flying|no|22|22|15|HGSS=9|9|9|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|267|Beautifly|2|Bug|Flying|no|no|13|13|13|{{tt|13|XY}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{tt|1, 10|ORAS}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|269|Dustox|2|Bug|Poison|no|no|13|13|13|{{tt|13|XY}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{tt|1, 10|ORAS}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|284|Masquerain|2|Bug|Flying|no|no|26|22|22|{{tt|22|XY}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{tt|17|ORAS}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|357|Tropius|2|Grass|Flying|no|no|1|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|414|Mothim|2|Bug|Flying|no|no|no|26|26|26|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|415|Combee|2|Bug|Flying|no|no|no|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|416|Vespiquen|2|Bug|Flying|no|no|no|1|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|425|Drifloon|2|Ghost|Flying|no|no|no|11|11|B2W2=8|8|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|426|Drifblim|2|Ghost|Flying|no|no|no|1, 11|1, 11|B2W2=1, 8|1, 8|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|456|Finneon|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|17|17|17}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|457|Lumineon|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|17|17|1, 17}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|519|Pidove|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|no|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|520|Tranquill|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|no|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|521|Unfezant|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|no|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|527|Woobat|2|Psychic|Flying|no|no|no|no|8|8|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|528|Swoobat|2|Psychic|Flying|no|no|no|no|1, 8|1, 8|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|547|Whimsicott|2|Grass|Fairy|no|no|no|no|10|10}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|561|Sigilyph|2|Psychic|Flying|no|no|no|no|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|629|Vullaby|2|Dark|Flying|no|no|no|no|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|630|Mandibuzz|2|Dark|Flying|no|no|no|no|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|637|Volcarona|2|Bug|Fire|no|no|no|no|1|1, 20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|641|Tornadus|1|Flying|Flying|no|no|no|no|1|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|666|Vivillon|2|Bug|Flying|no|no|no|no|no|1|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|714|Noibat|2|Flying|Dragon|no|no|no|no|no|11|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level1|715|Noivern|2|Flying|Dragon|no|no|no|no|no|11|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Movefooter|Normal|1}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===By {{pkmn|breeding}}===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveheader/Breed|Flying|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Breed2|041|Zubat|2|Poison|Flying|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}{{MSP|519|Pidove}}{{MSP|520|Tranquill}}{{MSP|521|Unfezant}}{{MSP|527|Woobat}}{{MSP|528|Swoobat}}{{MSP|561|Sigilyph}}|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}{{MSP|519|Pidove}}{{MSP|520|Tranquill}}{{MSP|521|Unfezant}}{{MSP|527|Woobat}}{{MSP|528|Swoobat}}{{MSP|561|Sigilyph}}{{MSP|714|Noibat}}{{MSP|715|Noivern}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Breed2|083|Farfetch&#039;d|2|Normal|Flying|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}{{MSP|519|Pidove}}{{MSP|520|Tranquill}}{{MSP|521|Unfezant}}{{MSP|527|Woobat}}{{MSP|528|Swoobat}}{{MSP|561|Sigilyph}}|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}{{MSP|519|Pidove}}{{MSP|520|Tranquill}}{{MSP|521|Unfezant}}{{MSP|527|Woobat}}{{MSP|528|Swoobat}}{{MSP|561|Sigilyph}}{{MSP|714|Noibat}}{{MSP|715|Noivern}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Breed2|278|Wingull|2|Water|Flying|no|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}{{MSP|519|Pidove}}{{MSP|520|Tranquill}}{{MSP|521|Unfezant}}{{MSP|527|Woobat}}{{MSP|528|Swoobat}}{{MSP|561|Sigilyph}}|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}{{MSP|519|Pidove}}{{MSP|520|Tranquill}}{{MSP|521|Unfezant}}{{MSP|527|Woobat}}{{MSP|528|Swoobat}}{{MSP|561|Sigilyph}}{{MSP|714|Noibat}}{{MSP|715|Noivern}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Breed2|290|Nincada|2|Bug|Ground|no|{{MSP|012|Butterfree}}{{MSP|049|Venomoth}}{{MSP|267|Beautifly}}{{MSP|269|Dustox}}{{MSP|284|Masquerain}}|{{MSP|012|Butterfree}}{{MSP|049|Venomoth}}{{MSP|267|Beautifly}}{{MSP|269|Dustox}}{{MSP|284|Masquerain}}{{MSP|414|Mothim}}{{MSP|415|Combee}}|{{MSP|012|Butterfree}}{{MSP|049|Venomoth}}{{MSP|267|Beautifly}}{{MSP|269|Dustox}}{{MSP|284|Masquerain}}{{MSP|414|Mothim}}{{MSP|415|Combee}}{{MSP|637|Volcarona}}|{{MSP|012|Butterfree}}{{MSP|049|Venomoth}}{{MSP|267|Beautifly}}{{MSP|269|Dustox}}{{MSP|284|Masquerain}}{{MSP|414|Mothim}}{{MSP|415|Combee}}{{MSP|637|Volcarona}}{{MSP|666|Vivillon}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Breed2|328|Trapinch|1|Ground|Ground|no|{{MSP|012|Butterfree}}{{MSP|049|Venomoth}}{{MSP|267|Beautifly}}{{MSP|269|Dustox}}{{MSP|284|Masquerain}}|{{MSP|012|Butterfree}}{{MSP|049|Venomoth}}{{MSP|267|Beautifly}}{{MSP|269|Dustox}}{{MSP|284|Masquerain}}{{MSP|414|Mothim}}{{MSP|415|Combee}}|{{MSP|012|Butterfree}}{{MSP|049|Venomoth}}{{MSP|267|Beautifly}}{{MSP|269|Dustox}}{{MSP|284|Masquerain}}{{MSP|414|Mothim}}{{MSP|415|Combee}}{{MSP|637|Volcarona}}|{{MSP|012|Butterfree}}{{MSP|049|Venomoth}}{{MSP|267|Beautifly}}{{MSP|269|Dustox}}{{MSP|284|Masquerain}}{{MSP|414|Mothim}}{{MSP|415|Combee}}{{MSP|637|Volcarona}}{{MSP|666|Vivillon}}|}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Breed2|580|Ducklett|2|Water|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}{{MSP|519|Pidove}}{{MSP|520|Tranquill}}{{MSP|521|Unfezant}}{{MSP|527|Woobat}}{{MSP|528|Swoobat}}{{MSP|561|Sigilyph}}|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}{{MSP|519|Pidove}}{{MSP|520|Tranquill}}{{MSP|521|Unfezant}}{{MSP|527|Woobat}}{{MSP|528|Swoobat}}{{MSP|561|Sigilyph}}{{MSP|714|Noibat}}{{MSP|715|Noivern}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Movefooter|Flying|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===By {{pkmn2|event}}===&lt;br /&gt;
====[[Generation II]]====&lt;br /&gt;
{{Learnlistspecial|Flying}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentryspecial|226|Mantine|2|Water|Flying|{{DL|List of Gotta Catch &#039;Em All event Pokémon|Gust Mantine|New York City Pokémon Center}}|&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==In other games==&lt;br /&gt;
===Description===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedesc|Flying}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrevmd|RB}}|Inflicts damage on the target. Doubles damage on a flying or bouncing Pokémon.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==In the anime==&lt;br /&gt;
===In the main series===&lt;br /&gt;
{{moveanime|type=flying|exp=yes|gen=A gust of wind is whipped up by wings and launched at the foe to inflict damage.|image1=Viola Vivillon Gust.png|image1p=Vivillon|image2=Aaron Vespiquen Gust.png|image2p=Vespiquen|image3=Ash Pidgeotto Gust.png|image3p=Pidgeotto|image4=Dominick Tropius Gust.png|image4p=Tropius|image5=Viola Vivillon Gust.png|image5p=Vivillon}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=016|pkmn=Pidgey|method=Pidgey flaps its wings at a high speed and creates a miniature tornado that sucks up and blows away the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Pidgey (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Pidgey|startcode=EP001|startname=Pokémon - I Choose You!|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Professor Oak (anime)|user1=Professor Oak&#039;s Pidgey|startcode=EP245|startname=Will the Real Oak Please Stand Up?}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=017|pkmn=Pidgeotto|method=Pidgeotto flaps its wings at a high speed to create a miniature tornado or gusts of wind or Pidgeotto flies in circles around the opponent at a high speed, causing a tornado to kick up inside the circle.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Ash&#039;s Pidgeotto|startcode=EP003|startname=Ash Catches a Pokémon}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Pidgeotto (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple Pidgeotto|startcode=EP015|startname=Battle Aboard the St. Anne}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Benji&#039;s father|user1=Benji&#039;s father&#039;s Pidgeotto|startcode=EP172|startname=Mountain Time}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=018|pkmn=Pidgeot|method=Pidgeot flaps its wings and white energy is released, hitting the opponent, or Pidgeot flaps its wings at a high speed and releases a strong gust of wind from them.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Ash&#039;s Pidgeot|startcode=EP081|startname=Pallet Party Panic}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Pidgeot (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Pidgeot|startcode=DP064|startname=Riding the Winds of Change!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=035|pkmn=Clefairy|method=Two strong winds come out of Clefairy&#039;s fingers and they form into a tornado.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Whitney|user1=Whitney&#039;s Clefairy|startcode=EP158|startname=A Goldenrod Opportunity|notes=Used via {{color2|{{flying color dark}}|Metronome (move)|Metronome}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=267|pkmn=Beautifly|method=Beautifly flaps its wings at a high speed to create large gusts of wind.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Janet|user1=Janet&#039;s Beautifly|startcode=AG013|startname=All Things Bright and Beautifly!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=May&#039;s Beautifly|startcode=AG028|startname=Seeing is Believing!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Beautifly (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Beautifly|startcode=PK18|startname=Pikachu&#039;s Exploration Club}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Beautifly (Pokémon)|user1=Two wild Beautifly|startcode=DP064|startname=Riding the Winds of Change!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Aaron&#039;s Beautifly|startcode=DP099|startname=A Trainer and Child Reunion!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=049|pkmn=Venomoth|method=Venomoth flaps its wings at a high speed and creates gusts of wind from them.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Chaz (anime)|user1=Chaz&#039;s Venomoth|startcode=AG013|startname=All Things Bright and Beautifly!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Venomoth (Pokémon)|user1=A Coordinator&#039;s Venomoth|startcode=DP077|startname=Staging a Heroes&#039; Welcome!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=276|pkmn=Taillow|method=Taillow flaps its wings at a high speed and creates a huge gust of wind from them.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Ritchie|user1=Ritchie&#039;s Rose|startcode=SS008|startname=Oaknapped!|notes=Taillow {{color2|6D5E9C|Anime move errors|cannot legally learn}} Gust}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=300|pkmn=Skitty|method=Skitty releases a huge gust of wind from a white orb on its paw.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=May&#039;s Skitty|startcode=AG053|startname=Game Winning Assist|notes=Used via {{color2|{{flying color dark}}|Assist (move)|Assist}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=142|pkmn=Aerodactyl|method=Aerodactyl flaps its wings at a high speed and creates a gust of wind.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Crystal (SS015)|user1=A wild Aerodactyl|startcode=SS015|startname=Putting the Air Back in Aerodactyl!|notes=Aerodactyl {{color2|6D5E9C|Anime move errors|cannot legally learn}} Gust}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=278|pkmn=Wingull|method=Wingull flaps its wings at a high speed and creates a gust of wind.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Wingull (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Wingull|startcode=M07|startname=Destiny Deoxys}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Wingull (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Wingull|startcode=Hoopa&#039;s Surprise Ring Adventures#Flying in the Air|startname=Flying in the Air}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=279|pkmn=Pelipper|method=Pelipper flaps its wings at a high speed and creates a gust of wind.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Pelipper (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Pelipper|startcode=M07|startname=Destiny Deoxys}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Pelipper (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Pelipper|startcode=Hoopa&#039;s Surprise Ring Adventures#Flying in the Air|startname=Flying in the Air}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=284|pkmn=Masquerain|method=Masquerain flaps its wings at a high speed and creates a gust of wind.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Audrey and Kathryn|user1=Audrey&#039;s Masquerain|startcode=M07|startname=Destiny Deoxys}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=357|pkmn=Tropius|method=Tropius flaps its top or all four of its wings at a high speed to create a huge gust of wind.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Dominick|user1=Dominick&#039;s Tropius|startcode=AG127|startname=From Brags to Riches}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Tropius (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Tropius|startcode=AG161|startname=Odd Pokémon Out!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=012|pkmn=Butterfree|method=Butterfree flaps its wings and creates a gust of wind from them. Sometimes, its eyes glow purple.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Drew|user1=Drew&#039;s Butterfree|startcode=AG187|startname=The Unbeatable Lightness of Seeing!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Butterfree (Pokémon)|user1=Two wild Butterfree|startcode=DP064|startname=Riding the Winds of Change!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Butterfree (Pokémon)|user1=A Butterfree an Unknown Trainer used briefly|startcode=DP088|startname=Camping it Up!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=396|pkmn=Starly|method=Starly flaps its wings at a high speed and a strong gust is created from them.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Ash&#039;s Starly|startcode=DP002|startname=Two Degrees of Separation!|notes=Japanese version only&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Starly {{color2|6D5E9C|Anime move errors|cannot legally learn}} Gust&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Referred as {{color2|6D5E9C|Whirlwind (move)|Whirlwind}} in the English dub}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Starly (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Starly|startcode=Hoopa&#039;s Surprise Ring Adventures#Flying in the Air|startname=Flying in the Air|notes=Starly {{color2|6D5E9C|Anime move errors|cannot legally learn}} Gust}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=269|pkmn=Dustox|method=Dustox flaps its wings quickly and creates a strong gust of wind.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Jessie&#039;s Dustox|startcode=DP013|startname=A Staravia is Born!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=438|pkmn=Bonsly|method=The green orbs on Bonsly&#039;s head glows light blue and it releases a strong gust of wind from them.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Brock&#039;s Bonsly|startcode=DP013|startname=A Staravia is Born!|notes=Used via {{color2|{{flying color dark}}|Mimic (move)|Mimic}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=397|pkmn=Staravia|method=Staravia flaps its wings at a high speed to create a gust of wind from them.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Ash&#039;s Staravia|startcode=DP026|startname=Getting the Pre-Contest Titters!|notes=Staravia {{color2|6D5E9C|Anime move errors|cannot legally learn}} Gust}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Staravia (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Staravia|startcode=Hoopa&#039;s Surprise Ring Adventures#Flying in the Air|startname=Flying in the Air|notes=Staravia {{color2|6D5E9C|Anime move errors|cannot legally learn}} Gust}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=426|pkmn=Drifblim|method=Drifblim&#039;s body glows light blue and its body becomes surrounded by a tornado. It then shoots the tornado at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Tonio|user1=Tonio&#039;s Drifblim|startcode=M10|startname=The Rise of Darkrai}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=425|pkmn=Drifloon|method=Drifloon&#039;s body glows light blue and its body becomes surrounded by a tornado. It then shoots the tornado at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Drifloon (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Drifloon|startcode=M10|startname=The Rise of Darkrai}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=021|pkmn=Spearow|method=Spearow flaps its wings and creates a gust of wind from them.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Spearow (Pokémon)|user1=Two wild Spearow|startcode=DP064|startname=Riding the Winds of Change!|notes=Spearow {{color2|6D5E9C|Anime move errors|cannot legally learn}} Gust}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=416|pkmn=Vespiquen|method=Vespiquen lifts its arms up and waves them down, creating a strong gust of wind and sending it at the opponent, or Vespiquen flaps its wings at a fast speed and creates a strong gust of wind.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Aaron (Elite Four)|user1=Aaron&#039;s Vespiquen|startcode=DP099|startname=A Trainer and Child Reunion!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=519|pkmn=Pidove|method=Pidove flaps its wings and a strong gust of wind comes out of them and blows the opponent away, or both of Pidove&#039;s wings glow light blue and it waves its wings one at a time. As it does, sparkling light blue streams of energy come out of the wings and turn into a powerful wind or tornado that blows the opponent away.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Ash&#039;s Pidove|startcode=BW002|startname=Enter Iris and Axew!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Pidove (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Pidove|startcode=BW069|startname=Climbing the Tower of Success!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=527|pkmn=Woobat|method=Half of Woobat&#039;s wings glow light blue and it waves them, releasing a powerful wind from them that blows away the opponent. Sometimes, Woobat&#039;s wings do not even glow at all, or the whole wing will glow.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Jessie&#039;s Woobat|startcode=BW002|startname=Enter Iris and Axew!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=520|pkmn=Tranquill|method=Tranquill flaps its wings once, which releases a powerful gust of wind from them at the opponent, or Tranquill&#039;s wings glow light blue and it flaps them, releasing a powerful gust of wind that blows the opponent away.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Ash&#039;s Tranquill|startcode=BW022|startname=A Venipede Stampede!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Tranquill (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Tranquill|startcode=BW044|startname=Purrloin: Sweet or Sneaky?}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=528|pkmn=Swoobat|method=Swoobat&#039;s wings glow light blue and it flaps them, releasing a powerful gust of wind that blows the opponent away.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Skyla|user1=Skyla&#039;s Swoobat|startcode=BW067|startname=Cilan Takes Flight!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=521F|pkmn=Unfezant|method=Unfezant&#039;s wings glow light blue and it flaps them, releasing a powerful gust of wind that blows the opponent away.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Ash&#039;s Unfezant|startcode=BW083|startname=Rocking the Virbank Gym! Part 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=547|pkmn=Whimsicott|method=Whimsicott blows a stream of wind from its mouth at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Whimsicott (Pokémon)|user1=Nursery&#039;s Whimsicott|startcode=BW095|startname=Unrest at the Nursery!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=666|pkmn=Vivillon|method=Vivillon&#039;s wings glow light blue and it flaps them, releasing a powerful gust of wind that blows the opponent away.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Viola|user1=Viola&#039;s Vivillon|startcode=XY005|startname=A Blustery Santalune Gym Battle!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=715|pkmn=Noivern|method=Noivern&#039;s wings glow light blue and it flaps them, releasing a powerful gust of wind that blows the opponent away.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Alexa|user1=Alexa&#039;s Noivern|startcode=XY005|startname=A Blustery Santalune Gym Battle!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=661|pkmn=Fletchling|method=Fletchling flaps its wings at a high speed to create a gust of wind from them.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Fletchling (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Fletchling|startcode=Hoopa&#039;s Surprise Ring Adventures#Flying in the Air|startname=Flying in the Air|notes=Fletchling {{color2|6D5E9C|Anime move errors|cannot legally learn}} Gust}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=227|pkmn=Skarmory|method=Skarmory flaps its wings at a high speed to create a gust of wind from them.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Skarmory (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Skarmory|startcode=Hoopa&#039;s Surprise Ring Adventures#Flying in the Air|startname=Flying in the Air|notes=Skarmory {{color2|6D5E9C|Anime move errors|cannot legally learn}} Gust}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=333|pkmn=Swablu|method=Swablu flaps its wings at a high speed to create a gust of wind from them.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Swablu (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Swablu|startcode=Hoopa&#039;s Surprise Ring Adventures#Flying in the Air|startname=Flying in the Air|notes=Swablu {{color2|6D5E9C|Anime move errors|cannot legally learn}} Gust}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=277|pkmn=Swellow|method=Swellow flaps its wings at a high speed to create a gust of wind from them.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Swellow (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Swellow|startcode=Hoopa&#039;s Surprise Ring Adventures#Flying in the Air|startname=Flying in the Air|notes=Swellow {{color2|6D5E9C|Anime move errors|cannot legally learn}} Gust}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=581|pkmn=Swanna|method=Swanna flaps its wings at a high speed to create a gust of wind from them.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Swanna (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Swanna|startcode=Hoopa&#039;s Surprise Ring Adventures#Flying in the Air|startname=Flying in the Air}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=641T|pkmn=Tornadus|method=Tornadus flaps its wings at a high speed to create a gust of wind from them.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtm|type=flying|user=Tornadus (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Tornadus|startcode=Hoopa&#039;s Surprise Ring Adventures#Flying in the Air|startname=Flying in the Air}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===In Pokémon Origins===&lt;br /&gt;
{{moveanime|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=A gust of wind is whipped up by wings and launched at the foe to inflict damage.|image1=Pidgey Gust PO.png|image1p=Pidgey}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=016|pkmn=Pidgey|method=Pidgey flaps its wings, creating a strong gust of wind.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtm|type=normal|user=Pidgey (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Pidgey|startcode=PO01|startname=File 1 - Red|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==In the manga==&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Ash and Pikachu manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Movemanga|type=flying|exp=yes|gen=The user flaps its wings and creates a gust with them.|image1=May Beautifly Gust AP.png|image1p=Beautifly}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=267|pkmn=Beautifly|method=Beautifly flaps its wings and creates a gust with them.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=flying|user=May&#039;s Beautifly|startcode=SP21|startname=The Enchanting Pokémon Soul!|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===In the Phantom Thief Pokémon 7 manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Movemanga|type=flying|exp=yes|gen=The user creates a powerful tornado.|image1=Hiori Drifblim Gust.png|image1p=Drifblim}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=426|pkmn=Drifblim|method=Drifblim waves its arms around, creating a powerful tornado to blow away the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=flying|user=Hiori|user1=Hiori&#039;s Drifblim|startcode=P7-06|startname=Showdown With An Assasin|notes=Debut.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=flying|exp=yes|gen=The user flaps their wings and creates a powerful gust to blow away the opponent.|image1=Thu-Fi-Zer Gust.png|image1p=Thu-Fi-Zer|image2=Suicune Gust Adventures.png|image2p=Suicune}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=normal|ms=TFZ|pkmn=Thu-Fi-Zer|method=Thu-Fi-Zer waves its wing and a powerful gust comes out of it and surrounds the opponent like a tornado.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Thu-Fi-Zer|startcode=PS033|startname=The Winged Legends|notes=Debut&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Cannot legally use Gust}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=245|pkmn=Suicune|method=Suicune releases a powerful gust of wind from its mouth at the opponent. It also freezes the water vapors in the air and turns them into little ice shards that it puts inside the gust of wind.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=flying|user=Legendary beasts (Adventures)#Suicune|user1=Misty&#039;s Suicune|startcode=PS123|startname=Debonaire Dragonair}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===In the Pokémon Gold &amp;amp; Silver: The Golden Boys manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Movemanga|type=flying|exp=yes|gen=The user flaps its wings and creates a gust from them.|image1=Gold Pidgey Gust Golden Boys.png|image1p=Pidgey|image2=Gold Pidgeotto Gust Golden Boys.png|image2p=Pidgeotto}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=016|pkmn=Pidgey|method=Pidgey flaps its wings and creates a strong gust.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Gold&#039;s Pidgey|startcode=GB01|startname=Let&#039;s Go! The Journey Towards The Championship|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=017|pkmn=Pidgeotto|method=Pidgeotto flaps its wings and creates a strong gust.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=flying|user=Gold&#039;s Pidgeotto|startcode=GB15|startname=Escape From The Mystery Forest!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===In the Pokémon Pocket Monsters manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=flying|exp=yes|gen=The user flaps its wings which creates a strong wind.|image1=Lugia Gust PM.png|image1p=Lugia|image2=Falkner Pidgeotto Gust PMHGSS.png|image2p=Pidgeotto}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=249|pkmn=Lugia|method=Lugia flaps its wings and a strong wind comes out.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Lugia (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Lugia|startcode=PM071|startname=Clefairy Rangers to the Rescue!!|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=017|pkmn=Pidgeotto|method=Pidgeotto flaps its wings and a strong wind comes out.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Falkner|user1=Falkner&#039;s Pidgeotto|startcode=PMHGSS05}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=641|pkmn=Tornadus|method=Tornadus flaps its wings and a strong wind comes out.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=flying|user=Tornadus (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Tornadus|startcode=PMBW18}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===In the Set Out!! Pokémon Ranger manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Movemanga|type=flying|exp=yes|gen=The user flaps its wings and creates a gust with them.|image1=Beautifly Gust SOPR.png|image1p=Beautifly}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=flying|ms=267|pkmn=Beautifly|method=Beautifly flaps its wings and creates a gust with them.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=flying|user=Beautifly (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Beautifly|startcode=Set Out!! Pokémon Ranger|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==In other generations==&lt;br /&gt;
{{movegen|&lt;br /&gt;
type=normal|&lt;br /&gt;
Stad=Gust Stad|&lt;br /&gt;
genI=Gust I|&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movegen|&lt;br /&gt;
type=flying|&lt;br /&gt;
genII=Gust II|&lt;br /&gt;
genIII=Gust III|&lt;br /&gt;
genIV=Gust IV|&lt;br /&gt;
genV=Gust V|&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{movegen|&lt;br /&gt;
type=Flying|&lt;br /&gt;
PMDRB=Gust PMD RB|&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{movegen|&lt;br /&gt;
type=Flying|&lt;br /&gt;
Colo=Gust Colo|&lt;br /&gt;
Stad2=Gust Stad2|&lt;br /&gt;
XD=Gust XD|&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* Gust is one of the four moves to have its {{DL|List of modified moves|Type changes|type changed}} in [[Generation II]], the others being {{m|Karate Chop}}, {{m|Bite}}, and {{m|Sand Attack}}. They were all {{type|Normal}} moves in [[Generation I]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Despite the move&#039;s description stating that the wind is whipped up by wings, some wingless Pokémon can learn this move as well.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In other languages==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Langtable|color={{flying color}}|bordercolor={{normal color dark}}&lt;br /&gt;
|zh_cmn=烈暴風 &#039;&#039;{{tt|Lièbàofēng|&amp;quot;Gale and Storm&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Violent Storm&amp;quot;}}&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|da=Storm&amp;lt;!--source: Danish version of The Official Pokémon Handbook--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|nl=Windvlaag&lt;br /&gt;
|fi=Tuulispää (original series)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Puhuri (Advanced Generation series)&lt;br /&gt;
|fr=Tornade&lt;br /&gt;
|de=Windstoß&lt;br /&gt;
|el= Ανεμοστρόβιλος&lt;br /&gt;
|hi=हवा का झोंका &#039;&#039;Hava Ka Jhonka&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Toofani Hawa&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|id=Pusaran Angin&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Angin Kencang&lt;br /&gt;
|it=Raffica&lt;br /&gt;
|ko=바람일으키기 &#039;&#039;Baram Il&#039;eukigi&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|no=Vindangrep&lt;br /&gt;
|pl=Podmuch Wiatru&lt;br /&gt;
|pt_br=Ventania&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Lufada de Vento (TCG)&lt;br /&gt;
|pt_eu=Golpe de Vento&lt;br /&gt;
|ro=Rafala&lt;br /&gt;
|sr=Nalet Vetra&lt;br /&gt;
|es_la=Ráfaga  ([[EP003]]-[[EP081]], [[EP245]], [[DP002]]-[[DP013]], [[DP064]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Tornado ([[EP158]]-[[AG187]], [[BW002]]{{tt|*|Ash&#039;s Pidove}})&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Ventisca{{tt|*|Mistake with Blizzard}} ([[AG013]], [[AG127]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Ráfaga de Viento ([[SS008]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Remolino ([[DP026]]-[[DP099]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Ráfaga de Aire ([[BW002]]-present)&lt;br /&gt;
|es_eu=Tornado&lt;br /&gt;
|tr=Rüzgâr&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Gust}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Moves that can hit semi-invulnerable Pokémon]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Normal-type moves]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Moves that can jam]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Moves that have had their type changed]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[de:Windstoß]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[fr:Tornade]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[it:Raffica (mossa)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[ja:かぜおこし]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[pl:Gust]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[zh:烈暴风（招式）]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Pound&amp;diff=2455482</id>
		<title>Template:Pound</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Pound&amp;diff=2455482"/>
		<updated>2016-06-08T05:26:08Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Variations|Gust|{{{1|flying}}}|physical={{mcolor|Pound|{{normal color dark}}}} • {{mcolor|Scratch|{{normal color dark}}}} |special={{mcolor|Gust|{{flying color dark}}}} • {{mcolor|Water Gun|{{water color dark}}}} • {{mcolor|Fairy Wind|{{fairy color dark}}}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;noinclude&amp;gt;[[Category:Move navigation templates]]&amp;lt;/noinclude&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Pound&amp;diff=2455481</id>
		<title>Template:Pound</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Pound&amp;diff=2455481"/>
		<updated>2016-06-08T05:25:54Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: &amp;quot;Variations of Pound&amp;quot; should be this instead.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Variations|Gust|{{{1|flying}}}|physical={{mcolor|Pound|{{normal color dark}}}} • {{mcolor|Scratch|{{normal color dark}}}} |special={{mcolor|Gust|{{flying color dark}}}} • {{mcolor|Water Gun|{{water color dark}}}} • {{mcolor|Fairy Wind|{{fairy color dark}}}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;noinclude&amp;gt;[[Category:Move navigation templates]]&amp;lt;/noinclude&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Move_variations&amp;diff=2455479</id>
		<title>Move variations</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Move_variations&amp;diff=2455479"/>
		<updated>2016-06-08T05:05:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Variations of Strength */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;!--Insert new variations in alphabetical order--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{unknown name}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Outdated|needs=to be updated for Generation VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Move variations&#039;&#039;&#039; are moves that are identical to one another in terms of damage and accuracy, are similar in PP (no more than 5 apart), but have different [[type]]s, [[damage category|damage categories]], or secondary effects. Below are the various move archetypes and the moves that fall into their categories. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Move archetypes are listed in alphabetical order. Within each archetype table, moves are listed by generation. Within each generation, moves are listed alphabetically.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;float:right&amp;quot;&amp;gt;__TOC__&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==List of damage-dealing move variations==&lt;br /&gt;
===Elemental Fangs===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15|power=65|acc=95|notes=10% chance to inflict non-volatile [[Status condition|status]] and/or flinch the target|other=Status condition}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Fire Fang|Fire|Physical|IV|other=Burn}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Ice Fang|Ice|Physical|IV|other=Freeze}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Thunder Fang|Electric|Physical|IV|other=Paralysis}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Fire Punch===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10 or 15|power=75|acc=100|notes=10% chance to inflict a [[status condition]]|other=Status condition|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Fire Punch|Fire|Physical|I|PP=15|other=Burn}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Ice Punch|Ice|Physical|I|PP=15|other=Freeze}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Thunder Punch|Electric|Physical|I|PP=15|other=Paralysis}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|III|PP=15||other=Confusion}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Relic Song|Normal|Special|V|PP=10|sig=Meloetta|other=Sleep}} &lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===[[One-hit knockout move]]s===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|acc={{tt|&amp;amp;ndash;|30% in Generation I}}|notes=Targets at a higher level than the user are unaffected{{tt|*|Targets with higher speed than the user are unaffected in Generation I}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Fissure|Ground|Physical|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Guillotine|Normal|Physical|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Horn Drill|Normal|Physical|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Sheer Cold|Ice|Special|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Pledge moves===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power={{tt|80|50 prior to Generation VI}}|acc=100|notes=Additional effect lasting four turns when used in combination|other=Effect when combined with:}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Fire Pledge|Fire|Special|V|other=&#039;&#039;&#039;Grass Pledge&#039;&#039;&#039;: Opponents take 1/8 max HP damage each turn.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Water Pledge&#039;&#039;&#039;: Doubles the probability of secondary effects occurring}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Grass Pledge|Grass|Special|V|other=&#039;&#039;&#039;Fire Pledge&#039;&#039;&#039;: Opponents take 1/8 max HP damage each turn.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Water Pledge&#039;&#039;&#039;: Halves speed of opponents}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Water Pledge|Water|Special|V|other=&#039;&#039;&#039;Fire Pledge&#039;&#039;&#039;: Doubles the probability of secondary effects occurring&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Grass Pledge&#039;&#039;&#039;: Halves speed of opponents}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Acid===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|25 or 30|power=40|acc=100|notes=10% chance of secondary effect occurring|other=Secondary effect|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Acid|Poison|Special|I|note=Affects all foes (adjacent foes in Triple Battles)|other=Lowers Special Defense{{tt|*|Defense in Generations I-III}}|I| PP=30}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Bubble|Water|Special|I|other=Lowers Speed|PP=30|note=20 power prior to Generation VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Ember|Fire|Special|I|other=Inflicts burn|PP=25}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Thunder Shock|Electric|Special|I|other=Inflicts paralysis|PP=30}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Powder Snow|Ice|Special|II|other=Freezes|PP=25}}&lt;br /&gt;
|} &lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Aeroblast===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power=100|acc=95|notes=High critical hit ratio}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Aeroblast|Flying|Special|II|sig=Lugia}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Spacial Rend|Dragon|Special|IV|sig=Palkia}}&lt;br /&gt;
|} &lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Ancient Power===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power=60|acc=100|notes=10% chance of raising all stats}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Ancient Power|Rock|Special|II}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Silver Wind|Bug|Special|III}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
|} &lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Aurora Beam===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|power=65|acc=100|notes=Chance of an additional effect occurring|other=Additional effect}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Aurora Beam|Ice|Special|I|other=10% chance of lowering target&#039;s Attack one stage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Bubble Beam|Water|Special|I|other=10% chance of lowering target&#039;s Speed one stage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Psybeam|Psychic|Special|I|other=10% chance of inflicting confusion}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Sludge|Poison|Special|I|other=30% chance of inflicting poison}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Spark|Electric|Physical|II|other=30% chance of inflicting paralysis}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Low Sweep|Fighting|Physical|V|other=100% chance of lowering target&#039;s Speed one stage|note=60 power prior to Generation VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Barrage===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|power=15|acc=85|notes=Hits multiple times}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Barrage|Normal|Physical|I|sig=The Exeggcute line}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Fury Attack|Normal|Physical|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Bite===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|25|power=60|acc=100|notes=30% chance of [[flinching]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Bite|Dark|Physical|I|note=Normal-type with 10% chance of flinching in Generation I}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Heart Stamp|Psychic|Physical|V}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Blizzard===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5 or 10|power={{tt|110|120 prior to Generation VI}}|acc=70|notes=Chance of inflicting a status condition, certain weather causes moves to not miss|other=Additional effect|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Blizzard|Ice|Special|I|other=10% chance of freezing target|PP=5|note=89.5% accuracy in Generation I, cannot miss in hail, affects all foes}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Thunder|Electric|Special|I|other=30% chance of paralyzing target|PP=10|note=Cannot miss in heavy rain, 10% chance of paralyzing target in Gen I}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Hurricane|Flying|Special|V|other=30% chance of confusing target|PP=10|note=Cannot miss in heavy rain}} &lt;br /&gt;
|} &lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;*{{m|Focus Blast}} and {{m|Gunk Shot}} formerly had the same power too, but their power didn&#039;t drop in Generation VI and are therefore no longer included.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Blue Flare===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power=130|acc=85|notes=20% chance of inflicting a non-volatile [[status condition]]|other=Status condition}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Blue Flare|Fire|Special|V|other=Burn|sig=Reshiram}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Bolt Strike|Electric|Physical|V|other=Paralysis|sig=Zekrom}} &lt;br /&gt;
|} &lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Bone Rush===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power=25|acc={{tt|90|80 prior to Generation V}}|notes=Hits multiple times}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Bone Rush|Ground|Physical|II|sig=The Cubone line|siggen=IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Rock Blast|Rock|Physical|III}} &lt;br /&gt;
|} &lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Brine===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power=65|acc=100|notes=Power doubles under certain conditions|other=Condition}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Brine|Water|Special|IV|other=Target&#039;s HP under 50%}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Hex|Ghost|Special|V|other=Target has a major status condition|note=50 power prior to Generation VI}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Venoshock|Poison|Special|V|other=Target is poisoned}} &lt;br /&gt;
|} &lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Bug Bite===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|power=60|acc=100|notes=Eats and gains the effect of the target&#039;s held Berry}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Bug Bite|Bug|Physical|IV|}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Pluck|Flying|Physical|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
|} &lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Bullet Seed===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|30|power={{tt|25|10 prior to Generation V}}|acc=100|notes=Hits multiple times}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Bullet Seed|Grass|Physical|III}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Icicle Spear|Ice|Physical|III|sig=Shellder|siggen=V}} &lt;br /&gt;
|} &lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Circle Throw===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power=60|acc=90|notes=-6 priority, forces target to switch out}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Circle Throw|Fighting|Physical|V}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Dragon Tail|Dragon|Physical|V}} &lt;br /&gt;
|} &lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Clamp===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10 or 15|power=35|acc=85|notes=Partially traps target|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Clamp|Water|Physical|I|sig=The Shellder line|siggen=III|note=75% accuracy prior to Generation V|PP=10}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Fire Spin|Fire|Special|I|note=15 power and 70% accuracy prior to Generation V|PP=15}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Whirlpool|Water|Special|II|note=15 power and 70% accuracy prior to Generation V|PP=15}}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Sand Tomb|Ground|Physical|III|note=15 power and 70% accuracy prior to Generation V|PP=15}} &lt;br /&gt;
|} &lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Counter===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|acc=100|notes=-5 priority, counters the last move taken at twice the power|other=Counters}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Counter|Fighting|Physical|I|other={{tt|Physical moves|Fighting and Normal-type moves in Generation I}}}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Mirror Coat|Psychic|Special|II|other=Special moves}} &lt;br /&gt;
|} &lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Cross Chop===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power=100|acc=80|notes=High critical hit ratio}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Cross Chop|Fighting|Physical|II}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Stone Edge|Rock|Physical|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
|} &lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Crush Grip===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power=Varying|acc=100|notes=Does more damage if the target&#039;s current HP is high}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Crush Grip|Normal|Physical|IV|sig=Regigigas}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Wring Out|Normal|Special|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
|} &lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Crush Claw===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power=75|acc=95|notes=50% chance to lower target&#039;s defense one stage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Crush Claw|Normal|Physical|III|sig=Zangoose|siggen=IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Razor Shell|Water|Physical|V}} &lt;br /&gt;
|} &lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Crunch===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10 or 15|power=80|acc=100|notes=Chance of lowering target&#039;s stat by one stage|other=Affected stat|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Crunch|Dark|Physical|II|other=20% chance of lowering the target&#039;s Defense{{tt|*|Lowers Special Defense prior to Generation IV}}|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|II|other=20% chance of lowering the target&#039;s Special Defense|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Flash Cannon|Steel|Special|IV|other=10% chance of lowering the target&#039;s Special Defense|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;* {{m|Energy Ball}} formerly had 80 power, but was changed to 90 power in Generation VI and is therefore no longer included.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Dig===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power=80|acc=100|notes=Two turn move}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Dig|Ground|Physical|I|note=100 power in Generation I, 60 power in Generation II-III}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Dive|Water|Physical|III|note=60 power in Generation III}} &lt;br /&gt;
|} &lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Discharge===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15|power=80|acc=100|notes=30% chance of causing a secondary effect, hits all adjacent Pokémon|other=Secondary effect}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Discharge|Electric|Special|IV|other=30% chance of paralyzing}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Lava Plume|Fire|Special|IV|other=30% chance of burning}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Double-Edge===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15|power=120|acc=100|notes=User receives recoil equal to ⅓ of the damage done to the target}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|I|note=100 power in Generation I}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Volt Tackle|Electric|Physical|III|sig=The Pichu line|note=10% chance of paralyzing the target}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Brave Bird|Flying|Physical|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Flare Blitz|Fire|Physical|IV|note=10% chance of burning the target}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Wood Hammer|Grass|Physical|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Dynamic Punch===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power=100|acc=50|notes=Causes a [[status condition]]|other=Status condition}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Dynamic Punch|Fighting|Physical|II|other=Confusion}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Inferno|Fire|Special|V|other=Burn}} &lt;br /&gt;
|} &lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;* {{m|Zap Cannon}} formerly had 100 power, but was changed to 120 power in Generation IV and is therefore no longer included.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Eruption===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power=varying|acc=100|notes=Higher damage when used with high HP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Eruption|Fire|Special|III}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Water Spout|Water|Special|III}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of False Swipe===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|40|power=40|acc=100|notes=Leaves target with at least 1HP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|False Swipe|Normal|Physical|II}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Hold Back|Normal|Physical|VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Fling===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10 or 15|power=varying|acc=100|notes=Damage and effect vary depending on held item|other=Item required|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Fling|Dark|Physical|IV|other=Any except [[Poké Ball]]s and [[mail]]|PP=15}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|IV|note=Type also varies|other=Berry|PP=10}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Flail===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15|power=varying|acc=100|notes=Higher damage when used with low HP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Flail|Normal|Physical|II}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Reversal|Fighting|Physical|II}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Flamethrower===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10 or 15|power={{tt|90|95 prior to Generation VI}}|acc=100|notes=10% chance of inflicting a non-volatile [[status condition]], targets one opponent|other=Status condition|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|I|other=Burn|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|I|other=Freeze|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|I|other=Paralysis|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Frost Breath===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power={{tt|60|40 prior to Generation VI}}|notes=Always results in a critical hit}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Frost Breath|Ice|Special|V}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Storm Throw|Fighting|Physical|V|note=Throh&#039;s Signature move prior to B2W2}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Frustration===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|power=varying|acc=100|notes=Power depends on user&#039;s [[friendship]]|other=Higher damage with}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Frustration|Normal|Physical|II|other=Low friendship}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Return|Normal|Physical|II|other=High friendship}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Fusion Flare===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power=100|acc=100|notes=Power doubles if hit by Fusion Flare or Fusion Bolt in the same turn|other=Power doubled by}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Fusion Flare|Fire|Special|V|other=Fusion Bolt|sig=Reshiram}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Fusion Bolt|Electric|Physical|V|other=Fusion Flare|sig=Zekrom}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Giga Drain===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power={{tt|75|60 prior to Generation V}}|acc=100|notes=Restores HP by half damage dealt}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Giga Drain|Grass|Special|II|note=5 PP prior to Generation IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Drain Punch|Fighting|Physical|IV|note=5 PP prior to Generation V}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Horn Leech|Grass|Physical|V|sig=Sawsbuck|siggen=VI}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Gust===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|25 or 35|power=40|acc=100|notes=No additional effect|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Gust|Flying|Special|I||PP=35|note=Normal-type in Generation I}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Pound|Normal|Physical|I|PP=35}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Scratch|Normal|Physical|I|PP=35}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Water Gun|Water|Special|I|PP=25}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Fairy Wind|Fairy|Special|VI|PP=35}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Heat Crash===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power=varying|acc=100|notes=Deals more damage if user&#039;s weight is higher compared to the target}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Heat Crash|Fire|Physical|V|sig=The Tepig line}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Heavy Slam|Steel|Physical|V}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Hyper Beam===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power=150|acc=90|notes=User must rest the turn after its use}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|I|note=Physical move prior to Generation IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Blast Burn|Fire|Special|III|sig=Fire-type starter Pokémon}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Frenzy Plant|Grass|Special|III|sig=Grass-type starter Pokémon}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Hydro Cannon|Water|Special|III|sig=Water-type starter Pokémon}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Roar of Time|Dragon|Special|IV|sig=Dialga}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Rock Wrecker|Rock|Physical|IV|sig=Rhyperior|siggen=V}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Icy Wind===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15|power=55|acc=95|notes=Lowers target&#039;s stat one stage|other=Stat lowered}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|II|other=Speed}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Mud Shot|Ground|Special|III|other=Speed}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Electroweb|Electric|Special|V|sig=The Joltik line|other=Speed}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Snarl|Dark|Special|V|other=Special Attack}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Karate Chop===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|25|power=50|acc=100|notes=High critical hit ratio}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Karate Chop|Fighting|Physical|I|note=Normal-type in Generation I}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Poison Tail|Poison|Physical|III|note=10% chance of poisoning the target|sig=Seviper|siggen=V}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Leaf Blade===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15|power=90|acc=100|notes=High critical hit ratio}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Leaf Blade|Grass|Physical|III|sig=Grovyle and Sceptile|siggen=IV|note=70 power prior to Generation IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Attack Order|Bug|Physical|IV|sig=Vespiquen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Low Kick===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|power=varying|acc=100|notes=Greater damage on heavier target}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Low Kick|Fighting|Physical|I|note=Had 50 power prior to Generation III}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Luster Purge===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power=70|acc=100|notes=50% of additional effect occurring|other=Additional effect}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Luster Purge|Psychic|Special|III|other=Lowers target&#039;s Special Defense one stage|sig=Latios}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Mist Ball|Psychic|Special|III|other=Lowers target&#039;s Special Attack one stage|sig=Latias}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Megahorn===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power=120|acc=85|notes=No additional effect}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Megahorn|Bug|Physical|II|sig=Heracross|siggen=III}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Power Whip|Grass|Physical|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Precipice Blades|Ground|Physical|VI|sig=Groudon}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Night Shade===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15 or 20|power=varying|acc=100|notes=Damage equal to user&#039;s level|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Night Shade|Ghost|Special|I|PP=15|The Gastly line}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Seismic Toss|Fighting|Physical|I|PP=20}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Needle Arm===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10 or 15|power=60|acc=100|notes=30% chance of causing a secondary effect|other=Secondary effect|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Needle Arm|Grass|Physical|III|other=Causes flinching|sig=The Cacnea line|siggen=V|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Force Palm|Fighting|Physical|IV|other=Inflicts paralysis|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Octazooka===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power=65|acc=85|notes=May lower target&#039;s accuracy one stage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Octazooka|Water|Special|II|sig=Octillery}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Mud Bomb|Ground|Special|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Mirror Shot|Steel|Special|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Overheat===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power={{tt|130|140 prior to Generation VI}}|acc=90|notes=Lowers user&#039;s Special Attack two stages}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Overheat|Fire|Special|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Special|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Leaf Storm|Grass|Special|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;*{{m|Psycho Boost}} formerly had the same power too, but its power didn&#039;t drop in Generation VI and is therefore no longer included.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Petal Dance===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power=120{{tt|*|90 prior to Generation V}}|acc=100|notes=Lasts 2-3 turns, user becomes confused}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Petal Dance|Grass|Special|I|note=70 power in Generation I-III and 20 PP prior to Generation V|sig=The Oddish line|siggen=II}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Thrash|Normal|Physical|I|note=20 PP prior to Generation V}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|II|note=15 PP prior to Generation V}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Psychic===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power=90|acc=100|notes=10% chance of lowering Special Defense one stage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Psychic|Psychic|Special|I}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Bug Buzz|Bug|Special|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Earth Power|Ground|Special|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|IV|note=80 power prior to Generation VI}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Quick Attack===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|30|power=40|acc=100|notes=+1 priority}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Quick Attack|Normal|Physical|I}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Mach Punch|Fighting|Physical|II}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Aqua Jet|Water|Physical|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Bullet Punch|Steel|Physical|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Ice Shard|Ice|Physical|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Shadow Sneak|Ghost|Physical|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Vacuum Wave|Fighting|Special|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Revenge===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power=60|acc=100|notes=-4 priority, doubles in power if user was damaged}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Revenge|Fighting|Physical|III|note=0 priority prior to Generation IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Avalanche|Ice|Physical|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Rollout===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|power=30|acc=90|notes=Power doubles with each consecutive hit}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Rollout|Rock|Physical|II}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Ice Ball|Ice|Physical|III|sig=The Spheal line|siggen=VI}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Sky Attack===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power=140|acc=90|notes=Needs to charge, 30% chance of causing a secondary effect|other=Secondary effect}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Sky Attack|Flying|Physical|I|other=Flinch}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Freeze Shock|Ice|Physical|V|other=Paralysis|sig=Black Kyurem}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Ice Burn|sig=White Kyurem|Ice|Special|V|other=Burn}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Slash===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15 or 20|power=70|acc=100|notes=High critical hit ratio|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Slash|Normal|Physical|I|PP=20}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Cross Poison|Poison|Physical|IV|note=10% chance of poisoning|PP=20}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Psycho Cut|Psychic|Physical|IV|PP=20}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Night Slash|Dark|Physical|IV|PP=15}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|IV|PP=15}} &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;*{{m|Leaf Blade}} formerly had 70 power, but was changed to 90 power in Generation IV and is therefore no longer included.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Smelling Salts===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|power={{tt|70|60 prior to Generation VI}}|acc=100|notes=Double damage on target with non-volatile status, cures non-volatile status on target|other=Cured status condition}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Smelling Salts|Normal|Physical|III|other=Paralysis|sig=The Makuhita line}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Wake-Up Slap|Fighting|Physical|IV|other=Sleep}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Stomp===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|power=65|acc=100|notes=30% of [[Status condition|flinching]], doubles in power if target has used {{m|Minimize}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Stomp|Normal|Physical|I}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Steamroller|Bug|Physical|V}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Strength===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10–20|power=80|acc=100|notes=No additional effect|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Strength|Normal|Physical|I|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Drill Peck|Flying|Physical|I|PP=20}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|III|PP=15}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Power Gem|Rock|Special|IV|note=70 power prior to Generation VI|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Seed Bomb|Grass|Physical|IV|PP=15}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|X-Scissor|Bug|Physical|IV|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Dazzling Gleam|Fairy|Special|VI|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Superpower===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|power=120|acc=100|notes=Lowers two of the user&#039;s stats|other=Stats lowered}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Superpower|Fighting|Physical|III|other=Attack, Defense}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Close Combat|Fighting|Physical|IV|other=Defense, Special Defense}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Dragon Ascent|Flying|Physical|VI|sig=Rayquaza|other=Defense, Special Defense}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Surf===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15|power=90|acc=100|notes=Hits all other Pokémon adjacent to user}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Surf|Water|Special|I|note=Hit only opposing Pokémon prior to Generation IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Petal Blizzard|Grass|Physical|VI}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Swift===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|power=60|notes=Cannot miss}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Swift|Normal|Special|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Feint Attack|Dark|Physical|II}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|III}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Magical Leaf|Grass|Special|III}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Shadow Punch|Ghost|Physical|III}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|III}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Magnet Bomb|Steel|Physical|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Thief===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|25|power=60|acc=100|notes=Steals the target&#039;s held item}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Thief|Dark|Physical|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Covet|Normal|Physical|III|note=40 PP prior to Generation VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of U-turn===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|power=70|acc=100|notes=User switches after damage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|U-turn|Bug|Physical|IV}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Volt Switch|Electric|Special|V|}} &lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Waterfall===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15 or 20|power=80|acc=100|notes=Chance of causing a secondary effect, single target|other=Secondary effect|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Waterfall|Water|Physical|I|other=20% chance of flinching{{tt|*|No additional effect prior to Generation IV}}|sig=The Goldeen line|siggen=II|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Extrasensory|Psychic|Special|III|other=10% chance of flinching|PP=20{{tt|*|30 prior to Generation VI}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Dark Pulse|Dark|Special|IV|other=20% chance of flinching|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Iron Head|Steel|Physical|IV|other=30% chance of flinching|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Poison Jab|Poison|Physical|IV|other=30% chance of poisoning|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Scald|Water|Special|V|other=30% chance of burning|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==List of status move variations==&lt;br /&gt;
===Black and White Mists===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|30|notes=Affects stat changes|other=Effect}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Haze|Ice|Status|I|other=Removes stat changes}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Mist|Ice|Status|I|other=Prevents negative stat changes}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Terrain Alterators===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|notes=Causes a special effect for all grounded Pokémon for 5 turns|other=Effect}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Electric Terrain|Electric|Status|VI|other=Powers up Electric moves, prevents Sleep}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Grassy Terrain|Grass|Status|VI|other=Powers up Grass moves, grounded Pokémon heal by 1/16 of max HP each turn}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Misty Terrain|Fairy|Status|VI|other=Powers down Dragon moves, prevents status conditions}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Acid Armor===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15 or 20|notes=Increases user&#039;s stat by two stages|other=Stat affected|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Acid Armor|Poison|Status|I|other=Defense|PP=20{{tt|*|40 prior to Generation IV}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Amnesia|Psychic|Status|I|other=Special Defense|note=Raises Special by two stages in Generation I|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Barrier|Psychic|Status|I|other=Defense|PP=20{{tt|*|30 prior to Generation IV}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|I|other=Attack|PP=20{{tt|*|30 prior to Generation VI}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Iron Defense|Steel|Status|III|other=Defense|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Nasty Plot|Dark|Status|IV|other=Special Attack|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Rock Polish|Rock|Status|IV|other=Speed|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Autotomize|Steel|Status|V|other=Speed|note=Halves user&#039;s weight|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;*{{m|Minimize}} formerly had 20 PP, but was changed to 10 PP in Generation VI and is therefore no longer included.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;*{{m|Tail Glow}} formerly raised Sp. Atk by 2 stages, but was changed to +3 in Generation V and is therefore no longer included.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of After You===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15|notes=Changes move order of the target|other=Change}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|After You|Normal|Status|V|other=Target moves next}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Quash|Dark|Status|V|other=Target moves last}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Bulk Up===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15 or 20|notes=Increases two of the user&#039;s stats by one stage|other=Stats affected|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Bulk Up|Fighting|Status|III|other=Attack, Defense|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|III|other=Special Attack, Special Defense|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Cosmic Power|Psychic|Status|III|other=Defense, Special Defense|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Dragon Dance|Dragon|Status|III|other=Attack, Speed|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Stockpile|Normal|Status|III|other=Defense, Special Defense|PP=20{{tt|*|10 prior to Generation IV}}|note=Did not raise stats prior to Generation IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Hone Claws|Dark|Status|V|other=Attack, Accuracy|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Camouflage===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15 or 20|notes=Changes user&#039;s type|PP=PP|other=Changes to}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Camouflage|Normal|Status|III|PP=20|other=Varies with the terrain|sig=Staryu|siggen=IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Reflect Type|Normal|Status|V|PP=15|other=Same as opponent&#039;s type}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Charm===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15 or 20|acc=100|notes=Lowers target&#039;s stat by two stages|other=Stats affected|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Charm|Fairy|Status|II|other=Attack|PP=20|note=Normal-type prior to Generation VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Fake Tears|Dark|Status|III|other=Special Defense|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Feather Dance|Flying|Status|III|other=Attack|PP=15|sig=The Pidgey line|siggen=IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Captivate|Normal|Status|IV|other=Special Attack|PP=20|note=Only affects targets of opposite gender}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Eerie Impulse|Electric|Status|VI|other=Special Attack|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Coil===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|notes=Raises three of user&#039;s stats by one stage|other=Affected stats}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Coil|Poison|Status|V|other=Attack, Defense, Accuracy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Quiver Dance|Bug|Status|V|other=Special Attack, Special Defense, Speed}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Confide===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|notes=Lowers target&#039;s stat by one stage, ignoring Protect, Detect and Spiky Shield|other=Stat affected}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Confide|Normal|Status|VI|other=Special Attack|note=Sound-based move}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Play Nice|Normal|Status|VI|other=Attack}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Conversion===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|30|notes=Changes user&#039;s type|other=Changes to}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Conversion|Normal|Status|I|other=One of the user&#039;s moves|sig=The Porygon line}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Conversion 2|Normal|Status|II|other=Type that resists opponent&#039;s last move|sig=The Porygon line}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Defense Curl===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|40|notes=Raises a stat by one stage|other=Stat affected}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Defense Curl|Normal|Status|I|other=Defense}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Meditate|Psychic|Status|I|other=Attack}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Withdraw|Water|Status|I|other=Defense}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Howl|Normal|Status|III|other=Attack}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Destiny Bond===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|notes=Requires user to faint|other=Effect}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Destiny Bond|Ghost|Status|II|other=Knocks out target if target knocked out the user in the same turn}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Grudge|Ghost|Status|III|other=Brings PP of move that knocked the user out to 0}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Memento===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|notes=Causes the user to faint without damaging the foe|other=Effect}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Memento|Dark|Status|III|other=Lowers the target&#039;s Attack and Sp. Attack by two stages}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Healing Wish|Psychic|Status|IV|other=The next Pokémon sent out will have HP and status fully healed}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Lunar Dance|Psychic|Status|IV|other=The next Pokémon sent out will have HP, PP and status fully healed|sig=Cresselia}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Detect===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5 or 10|notes=+4 priority, protects user from all moves|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Detect|Fighting|Status|II|PP=5}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Protect|Normal|Status|II|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Spiky Shield|Grass|Status|VI|PP=10|note=Also damages those who make contact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Disable===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15 or 20|acc=100|notes=Disables the opponent&#039;s moves or items|other=Disables|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Disable|Normal|Status|I|other=The affected move|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Taunt|Dark|Status|III|other=Status moves|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Torment|Dark|Status|III|other=Using moves twice in a row|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Embargo|Dark|Status|IV|other=Using items|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Heal Block|Psychic|Status|IV|other=Moves and items that restore HP{{tt|*|Damaging moves that heal the user will only deal damage prior to Gen VI, and are disabled as of Gen VI.}}|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Flash===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15 or 20|acc=100|notes=Decreases accuracy by one stage|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Flash|Normal|Status|I|note=70% accuracy prior to Generation IV|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Smokescreen|Normal|Status|I|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Sand Attack|Ground|Status|I|note=Normal-type in Generation I|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Follow Me===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|notes=+2 priority{{tt|*|+3 priority prior to Generation VI}}, forces all opponents to target the user}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Follow Me|Normal|Status|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Rage Powder|Bug|Status|V}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Foresight===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|40|acc=100|notes=Removes a type immunity and negates target&#039;s evasiveness|other=Removed immunity}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Foresight|Normal|Status|II|other=Ghost types are affected by Normal and Fighting moves}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Odor Sleuth|Normal|Status|III|other=Ghost types are affected by Normal and Fighting moves}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Miracle Eye|Psychic|Status|IV|other=Dark types are affected by Psychic moves}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Forest&#039;s Curse===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|notes=Adds a type to the target|other=Added type}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Forest&#039;s Curse|Grass|Status|VI|other=Adds Grass type}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Trick-or-Treat|Ghost|Status|VI|other=Adds Ghost type}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Guard Split===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|notes=Averages the target&#039;s stats with the user|other=Affected stats}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Guard Split|Psychic|Status|V|other=Defense and Special Defense}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Power Split|Psychic|Status|V|other=Attack and Special Attack}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Harden===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|30|notes=Raises a stat by one stage|other=Stat affected}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Harden|Normal|Status|I|other=Defense}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Sharpen|Normal|Status|I|other=Attack|sig=Porygon|siggen=V}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Heal Bell===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|notes=Cures user&#039;s party of [[status condition]]s}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Heal Bell|Normal|Status|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Aromatherapy|Grass|Status|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Ingrain===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|notes=Heals user by 1/16 of max HP each turn}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Ingrain|Grass|Status|III|note=Protects the user from forced switching}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Aqua Ring|Water|Status|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Leer===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|30|notes=Lowers the target&#039;s defense by one stage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Leer|Normal|Status|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Tail Whip|Normal|Status|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Leech Seed===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|acc=90|notes=Inflicts target with a [[status condition]]|other=Status condition}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Leech Seed|Grass|Status|I|other=Seeding}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Toxic|Poison|Status|I|other=Bad poison}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Lock-On===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|notes=Ensures user&#039;s next move will hit}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Lock-On|Normal|Status|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Mind Reader|Normal|Status|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Lovely Kiss===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10 or 15|acc=75|notes=Inflicts a [[status condition]]|other=Status condition|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Lovely Kiss|Normal|Status|I|other=Sleep|sig=Jynx|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Sleep Powder|Grass|Status|I|other=Sleep|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Sweet Kiss|Fairy|Status|II|other=Confusion|PP=10|note=Normal-type prior to Generation VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;*{{m|Will-O-Wisp}} formerly had 75% accuracy, but was changed to 85% in Generation VI and is therefore no longer included.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Mean Look===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5 or 10|acc=100|notes=Prevents target form escaping or switching out|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Mean Look|Normal|Status|II|PP=5}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Spider Web|Bug|Status|II|PP=10|sig=Spinarak|siggen=V}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Block|Normal|Status|III|PP=5}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Mirror Move===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|notes=Uses the last move used by the target}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Mirror Move|Flying|Status|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Copycat|Normal|Status|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Moonlight===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5|notes=Heals variant amount of HP, depending on the [[weather]]|other=Time of day (Generation II only)}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Moonlight|Fairy|Status|II|note=Normal-type prior to Generation VI|other=Twice as effective at night}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Morning Sun|Normal|Status|II|sig=Espeon|siggen=III|other=Twice as effective in the morning}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Synthesis|Grass|Status|II|other=Twice as effective during daytime}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Mud Sport===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15|notes=Halves damage taken from a certain type|other=Affected type}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Mud Sport|Ground|Status|III|other=Electric}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Water Sport|Water|Status|III|other=Fire}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Poison Powder===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|35 or 30|acc=75|notes=Inflicts a [[status condition]]|other=Status condition|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Poison Powder|Poison|Status|I|other=Poison|PP=35}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Stun Spore|Grass|Status|I|other=Paralysis|PP=30}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;*{{m|Glare}} formerly had 75% accuracy, but was changed to 90% in Generation V and is therefore no longer included.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Quick Guard===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10 or 15|notes=+3 priority, protects user&#039;s side of field|other=Protects from|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Quick Guard|Fighting|Status|V|other=Moves with increased priority|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Wide Guard|Rock|Status|V|other=Moves that target multiple Pokémon|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Crafty Shield|Fairy|Status|VI|other=Status moves|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Rain Dance===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5 or 10|notes=Changes in-battle [[weather]] for 5 turns|other=Weather|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Rain Dance|Water|Status|II|other=Heavy rain|PP=5}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|II|other=Sandstorm|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|II|other=Intense sunlight|PP=5}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Hail|Ice|Status|III|other=Hail|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;*{{m|Shadow Sky}} can also be considered to be a variation.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Recover===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|notes=Heals user by half max HP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Recover|Normal|Status|I|note=20 PP prior to Generation IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Soft-Boiled|Normal|Status|I|sig=The Chansey line}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Milk Drink|Normal|Status|II|sig=Miltank}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Slack Off|Normal|Status|III|sig=The Slakoth line|siggen=IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Heal Order|Bug|Status|IV|sig=Vespiquen}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Roost|Flying|Status|IV|note=Removes user&#039;s Flying-type until end of turn}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Roar===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|acc={{tt|100|prior to Gen VI}}|notes=-6 priority, forces target to switch}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Roar|Normal|Status|I|note=Targets with Soundproof are unnaffected}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Whirlwind|Normal|Status|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Safeguard===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|25 or 30|notes=Protects the user&#039;s party for 5 turns|other=Protects from|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Safeguard|Normal|Status|II|other=[[Status condition]]s|PP=25}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Lucky Chant|Normal|Status|IV|other=Critical hits|PP=30}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Screech===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|40|acc=85|notes=Sound moves that lower the target&#039;s stat by two stages|other=Stat affected}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Screech|Normal|Status|I|other=Defense}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Metal Sound|Steel|Status|III|other=Special Defense}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;*{{m|Cotton Spore}} formerly had 85% accuracy, but was changed to 100% in Generation V and is therefore no longer included.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Sing===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15 or 20|acc=55|notes=Sound moves that inflict a [[status condition]]|other=Status condition|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Sing|Normal|Status|I|other=Sleep|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Supersonic|Normal|Status|I|other=Confusion|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Grass Whistle|Grass|Status|III|other=Sleep|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Skill Swap===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|notes=Switches the user&#039;s condition with the target|other=Switched}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Skill Swap|Psychic|Status|III|other=Abilities}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Heart Swap|Psychic|Status|IV|other=Any stat changes|sig=Manaphy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Guard Swap|Psychic|Status|IV|other=Changes to Defense and Special Defense}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Power Swap|Psychic|Status|IV|other=Changes to Attack and Special Attack}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Spikes===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|20|notes=Lays down entry hazards|other=Effect}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Spikes|Ground|Status|II|other=Inflicts damages when opponent switches in}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Stealth Rock|Rock|Status|IV|other=Inflicts damage depending on type when opponent switches in}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Toxic Spikes|Poison|Status|IV|other=Inflicts poison when opponent switches in}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Sticky Web|Bug|Status|VI|other=Decreases Speed by 1 stage when opponent switches in}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Splash===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|40|notes=Does nothing}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Splash|Normal|Status|I|sig=Magikarp|siggen=II}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Celebrate|Normal|Status|VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Hold Hands|Normal|Status|VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Spore===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|15 or 20|acc=100|notes=Inflicts target(s) with a [[status condition]]|other=Status condition|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Spore|Grass|Status|I|other=Sleep|sig=The Paras line|siggen=III|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|I|other=Paralysis|PP=20}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Trick===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10|acc=100|notes=Switches items with target}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Trick|Psychic|Status|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Switcheroo|Dark|Status|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Trick Room===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|5 or 10|notes=Causes a special effect for all Pokémon on the field for 5 turns|other=Effect|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Trick Room|Psychic|Status|IV|other=Slower Pokémon move first|PP=5}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Magic Room|Psychic|Status|V|other=Disables held items{{tt|*|-7 priority prior to Generation VI}}|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Wonder Room|Psychic|Status|V|other=Switches Defense and Special Defense{{tt|*|-7 priority prior to Generation VI}}|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Variations of Worry Seed===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|10 or 15|acc=100|notes=Changes the target&#039;s Ability|other=Ability becomes|PP=PP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Worry Seed|Grass|Status|IV|other={{a|Insomnia}}|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Entrainment|Normal|Status|V|other=Same as user|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Simple Beam|Normal|Status|V|other={{a|Simple}}|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==List of Shadow move variations==&lt;br /&gt;
===Variations of Shadow Bolt===&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar/h|N/A|power=75|acc=100|notes=10% chance of inflicting a non-volatile [[status condition]]|other=Status condition}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Shadow Bolt|Shadow|Special|III|other=Paralysis|sig=Shadow Zapdos}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Shadow Chill|Shadow|Special|III|other=Freeze|sig=Shadow Articuno}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Shadow Fire|Shadow|Special|III|other=Burn|sig=Shadow Moltres}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ability variations]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Moves|*]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Game mechanics]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[de:Attacken-Variationen]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[it:Varianti mossa]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
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		<title>Talk:Move variations/Archive 1</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* PP variation in both directions */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Template? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This page was an excellent idea, but I wonder if there&#039;s a way to indicate in each move&#039;s article when it belongs to one of these &amp;quot;archetypes&amp;quot;. --[[User:Johans|Johans Nidorino]] 21:10, 19 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I suggested it but it was forgotten later on; and unfortunately, I don&#039;t know how to make templates. -([[User:Llxwarbirdxll|Llxwarbirdxll]] 02:35, 29 May 2007 (UTC))&lt;br /&gt;
:Template namespace. I&#039;ll whip one up. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;E&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 02:53, 29 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Maybe this is not the right place to suggest, but take a look at the template (Flamethrower as an example):&lt;br /&gt;
{| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; class=&amp;quot;toccolours&amp;quot; cellspacing=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;border: 3px solid #88a; border-radius:20px; -moz-border-radius:20px;&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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! colspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background: #ccf; border: border-radius:20px; -moz-border-radius:20px; padding: 2px 15px;&amp;quot; | [[Move variations|Variations]] of the move {{m|Flamethrower}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;font-size:90%;&amp;quot; align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| {{ic|Special}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{mcolor|Flamethrower|{{fire color}}}} | {{mcolor|Ice Beam|{{ice color dark}}}} | {{mcolor|Sludge Wave|{{poison color dark}}}} | {{mcolor|Thunderbolt|{{electric color dark}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
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::Flamethrower mentioned twice, while there is no actual link to &#039;&#039;Variations of Flamethrower&#039;&#039;. I believe it will be better this way:&lt;br /&gt;
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{| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; class=&amp;quot;toccolours&amp;quot; cellspacing=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;border: 3px solid #88a; border-radius:20px; -moz-border-radius:20px;&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background: #ccf; border: border-radius:20px; -moz-border-radius:20px; padding: 2px 15px;&amp;quot; | [[Move_variations#Variations_of_Flamethrower|Variations of the move Flamethrower]]:&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;font-size:90%;&amp;quot; align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| {{ic|Special}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{mcolor|Flamethrower|{{fire color}}}} | {{mcolor|Ice Beam|{{ice color dark}}}} | {{mcolor|Sludge Wave|{{poison color dark}}}} | {{mcolor|Thunderbolt|{{electric color dark}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
::--[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 11:09, 10 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I agree. It does make more sense that way. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 11:12, 10 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New Variation ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There neeeds to be a Move Variation for the Following moves:&lt;br /&gt;
* {{m|Psybeam}}&lt;br /&gt;
* {{m|BubbleBeam}}&lt;br /&gt;
* {{m|Aurora Beam}}&lt;br /&gt;
* {{m|Sludge}}&lt;br /&gt;
* {{m|Spark}}&lt;br /&gt;
I have checked them all out and they each have:&lt;br /&gt;
* Power: 65&lt;br /&gt;
* Accuracy: 100%&lt;br /&gt;
* PP: 20 &lt;br /&gt;
P.S. I don&#039;t know how to do this myself so really I&#039;m asking for somebody to do this for me!&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 16:53, 13 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, I&#039;m not sure if this should be counted as they each have a different added effect, either a [[status ailment]] or a [[stat]] change. Somebody gie me their:view...[[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 20:32, 16 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe keep the status-changing ones together, and keep the stat-changing ones together, but keep them separate. That means {{m|Psybeam}}, {{m|Sludge}}, and {{m|Spark}} go together, and {{m|BubbleBeam}} and {{m|Aurora Beam}} go together.&lt;br /&gt;
:And don&#039;t forget to use the {{template|m}} template for moves. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;E&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:22, 17 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
By the way, I think you&#039;ve got the wrong idea. I&#039;m not sure on how to create the move variation. I only realised they were similar... [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 15:34, 18 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Or&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is &amp;quot;10 or 15&amp;quot; valid [[Move variations#Variations of Shadow Ball|here]]?  I&#039;d say the use of every possible move variation no matter the amount of PPs it has would require a redefinition.  BTW, {{m|Ice Beam}} and {{m|Thunder}} don&#039;t belong in the tables they&#039;ve been introduced in if following the original criterion. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 05:04, 22 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, I put those there. I&#039;ll have them removed. [[User:Llxwarbirdxll|Llxwarbirdxll]] 08:20, 28 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:LOL, now somebody else did the same with variations of Slash, Waterfall, and Shadow Ball :P --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:08, 7 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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People are no longer respecting the &amp;quot;PPs&amp;quot; part of the definition.  With &amp;quot;Variations of Flamethrower&amp;quot; the article mentions neither 15 nor 10 now.  If this is going to continue, maybe Bulbapedia&#039;s definition on &amp;quot;move variations&amp;quot; should no longer include PPs, which seems to be the least important of the three columns. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 18:35, 5 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Seismic Toss and Night Shade? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Those belong on the list, right?&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 20:10, 15 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Doesn&#039;t {{m|Night Shade}} do somewhere from 1 to 1.5x the level? I know {{m|Seismic Toss}} does the level. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;E&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 23:07, 15 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::No, Psywave does from 0.5 to 1.5x the level. But Night Shade always does damage equal to the level. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Still, they don&#039;t have the same amout of default total PPs. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 01:53, 16 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::They&#039;re stretching it nowadays though. Hmm...{{m|Zap Cannon}} and {{m|DynamicPunch}}... [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D5AA00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C0C0C0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 22:11, 19 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Well, I&#039;m sure {{m|Stone Edge}} and {{m|Cross Chop}} are variations. [[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 07:00, 24 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Definitely ^_^ --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:46, 24 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Stub?==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it Still a stub?--[[User:Torchic-ken|Torchic-ken]] 2:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, there&#039;s a few missing bits. [[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 00:10, 6 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mean Look/Block/Spider Web? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I noticed there isn&#039;t a section for these three moves, and while Block and Mean Look fit a &amp;quot;5 PP, Prevents foe from escaping&amp;quot; description, Spider Web only has one thing setting them apart and that&#039;s the PP issue. Should I add it anyway? [[User:TinaTheKirlia|TinaTheKirlia]] 01:47, 7 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Add only Mean Look and Block.  That&#039;s what has been done in these cases to agree with the current definition of &amp;quot;move archetypes&amp;quot;. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 08:01, 7 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Counter and Mirror Coat? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m really surprised no one did this - they both have 10PP, varying power, 100% accuracy and they both go last and counter the foe&#039;s attack at two times the power. I was trying to find a good way to summarize it though - how&#039;s this? &amp;quot;Goes last and counters the move used by the foe at twice the power&amp;quot;. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E75480;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Tina&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E75480;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;The&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E75480;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Kirlia&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] ♥ 21:23, 6 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:That works. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TTE&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 23:41, 6 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Softboiled and Milk Drink ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Even though they&#039;re listed under variations of Recover.. they both can do something Recover can not -- heal other Pokémon&#039;s HP outside of battle. I think this deserves a mention. :P [[User:Tina|Tina]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:58, 29 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Contests? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it would be incredibly useful to have a version of this page for contests, since many of the moves do the exact same things.&lt;br /&gt;
Thoughts...? [[User:Maki|Maki]] 13:47, 19 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree. However it&#039;d have to be set up differently. It&#039;d be like... effect, cute moves, beauty moves, smart moves, tough moves, cool moves. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]Fire echy&#039;&#039;&#039; 20:49, 21 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Blizzard ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Are Magma Storm and Focus Blast &#039;&#039;really&#039;&#039; variations of Blizzard? Neither inflict a status ailment and Magma Storm sounds more like a multi-turn move. The only similarities seem to be 120 power&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, I think Thunder should be added as a variation. It has 10 PP, not 5, but it causes a status ailment, has 120 power and 70 accuracy. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:28, 21 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thunder and Blizzard also have their accuracy at 100% when used during a specific weather condition. Magma Storm seems most like Outrage, though that goes 2-3 turns, and Focus Blast is just... its own thing. Not &#039;&#039;every&#039;&#039; move has a counterpart, that&#039;s what people need to remember. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]Fire echy&#039;&#039;&#039; 20:38, 21 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::That&#039;s what I mean, a lot of the moves I mentioned, as well as Hydro Pump, Seed Flare and Fire Blast are all &#039;&#039;similar&#039;&#039;, but variations of each other? I&#039;d say they&#039;re similar moves, but not direct variations. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:40, 21 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yes. Variations: Do the same thing. Similarity: have the same PP, power, or accuracy but don&#039;t do the same thing. Outrage and Thrash are variations, despite Outrage now being 120 power. Focus Blast and Blizzard are not because all they share is accuracy and power. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]Fire echy&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:21, 21 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::So, should we move some of the moves I mentioned around? That&#039;s what I&#039;ve been suggesting. I think Magma Storm should be grouped with Outrage and Thrash, and Blizzard, Thunder and Gunk Shot should be in a group. Maybe Seed Flare and Focus Blast too, their effects are identical except for accuracy. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 00:39, 22 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Order==&lt;br /&gt;
Why aren&#039;t they in alphabetical order? {{u|MathijsP}}&lt;br /&gt;
:Beats me. Last time I organized them I put them in order by damage. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 01:59, 20 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Dragon Claw, X-Scissor, Seed Bomb==&lt;br /&gt;
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Aren&#039;t these all variations? They all do 80 damage, have 15 PP, and no added effect. Can I add them? --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 18:25, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You forget to mention the accuracy, but it happens that it&#039;s the same!  So yeah, they&#039;re move variations. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 18:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Great. I guess I&#039;ll add them now. --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 18:25, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, I don&#039;t think I know how to do the template. Can someone else do that? --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 18:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Nevermind, I got them. :) --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 21:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ice Beam?==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ice Beam has only 10 PP, yet it&#039;s claimed to be a variation of Flamethrower and Thunderbolt, which have 15 PP. Can I remove that? --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 21:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Ice Beam is the most useful of all three, but is still the same. Same power, accuracy and rate to inflict a status problem. Part of Ice Beam may be the fact frozen Pokémon are helpless. [[User:Gywall|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF8800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Gyw&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFAE00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;all&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:15, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ice Beam is one of the more visible move variations in normal gameplay. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:21, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ah. I see. OK. --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 00:46, 13 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Air Slash? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wonder if, shouldnt Air Slash be in the &amp;quot;variations of Slash&amp;quot; since it IS a Slash move after all? o: what do you people think? I havn&#039;t really looked up the PP, accuracy and power, but its very similar to Night Slash and Slash. :c--[[User:Angela-Samshi|Angela-Samshi]] 17:50, 23 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Slash and Night Slash have high critical-hit ratios, Air Slash may cause the opponent to flinch.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;midnightblue&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;$aturn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;¥oshi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;maroon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE VOICES&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:54, 23 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ahh, ok thanks. --[[User:Angela-Samshi|Angela-Samshi]] 18:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pound &amp;lt;-&amp;gt; Gust? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Gust isn&#039;t a variation of Pound, is it? - [[User:FireHazard|Hazardous FIRE!]] 00:08, 5 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes it is. 35 PP, 40 power, 100% accuracy&amp;amp;ndash;yup, variation. --[[user:Baby G|Baby G]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Arm Thrust ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I read that the accuracy of Arm Thrust was 100 percent, but it was under the variations of Barrage, saying that its accuracy was 85 percent.  Is its accuracy 85 or 100, cuz I don&#039;t wanna do an edit with wrong info.---[[User:Hitmonchan90|Hitmonchan90]] 23:07, 23 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bulk Up and Calm Mind?==&lt;br /&gt;
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They both have 20 PP, and raise Attack and Defense/Special Attack and Special Defense one stage, respectively. Variants? All signs point to yes. [[User:Master Lucario|Master Lucario]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Yep, variations. Added. --[[user:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF4500;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Baby G]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[user talk:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D1E231;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk to me]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B87333;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;see my edits]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:30, 5 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reorganised ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the moves were looking kinda messy, since the order was somewhat random, I went and moved the sections around to order it A-Z. Exceptions being Elemental X and the OHKO moves as they are listed differently. [[User:Gywall|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF8800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Gyw&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFAE00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;all&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I believe the order was by Base Power of the attacks. [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 13:29, 23 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sections for both {{m|Tail Glow}} AND {{m|Agility}}? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve noticed that there are two sections that both share similar attributes, both sections detail moves that have 20 PP but increase a stat two stages, however, One details just Special attack raisers while the other details the other ones.&lt;br /&gt;
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Should there be two or should they be put together? [[User:PDL|PDL]] 00:22, 23 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was thinking the same thing, but then I found out that all the listed variations of Agility (including Agility itself) have &#039;&#039;30&#039;&#039; PP, and that Tail Glow and {{m|Nasty Plot}} have &#039;&#039;20&#039;&#039; PP. --[[user:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Cho&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[user talk:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;col&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[special:contributions/chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ate&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:23, 23 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Agility has 30 PP.Otherwise, I would say yes--[[User:DCM|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF1111&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DCM&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#DAA520&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#C0C0C0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Contributions&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;))]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I just noticed that now as well ^^; [[User:PDL|PDL]] 00:35, 23 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Crabhammer ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Both Crabhammer and Blaze Kick &#039;&#039;used&#039;&#039; to be signature moves. Should this be noted? --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 21:43, 25 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t think it should. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[user:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Cho&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[user talk:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;col&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[special:contributions/chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ate&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:47, 25 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Lock-On/Mind Reader ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How about them? [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D5AA00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C0C0C0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 23:19, 18 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I remember them having the exactly same effect, so if my memory serves me right, they could be added. &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #3FFF00; font-weight: bold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;UltimateSephiroth&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;(&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #003FFF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:UltimateSephiroth|user]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|contrib]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:29, 18 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::How about {{m|Whirlwind}} and {{m|Roar}}? [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D5AA00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C0C0C0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 04:05, 14 December 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== {{m|Spikes}} / {{m|Toxic Spikes}} ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Should these be parterned up?--[[User:RexRacer|&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E7CE6B&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rex&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#42528C&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Racer&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;]] [[User talk:RexRacer|&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF5A00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;-talk&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;]] 16:26, 23 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Don&#039;t forget about {{m|Stealth Rock}}, too. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[user:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Cho&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[user talk:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;col&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[special:contributions/chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ate&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:28, 23 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== This page needs work ==&lt;br /&gt;
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First of all, should PP be accounted for or not? Right now, some do and some don&#039;t. I don&#039;t really care which one we go with, so long as it&#039;s consistent.&lt;br /&gt;
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Second, effects are not being grouped together consistently either. Example: Spark has a 30% chance of inducing Paralyze. Psybeam has a 10% chance of inducing Confusion. 30 != 10. Another example: Flamethrower has a 10% chance of inducing Burn. Surf has 0% chance of inducing anything at all, and has a different target range on top of that. Also, the diffence between &amp;quot;Acid Armor variations&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Amnesia variations&amp;quot;? Ignoring the PP difference (the Acid Armor variations already do this anyway), who really cares if they raise Special stats or not? You could just as easily group them by Defense or Attack stats. On the other hand, I say just go with &amp;quot;raises a stat by two stages&amp;quot; and leave it at that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Third, I do not think &amp;quot;non-[http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/volatile volatile]&amp;quot; means what you think it means. Why not just put &amp;quot;non-damaging effect&amp;quot; or something else a bit more clear and grammatically correct? [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I never thought PP should be accounted for. A lot of the moves might have the same PP but if all the important other stuff is the same, the moves are pretty much variations! [[User:Toastypk|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#BB0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;~Toastypk&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#770077&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Loom.&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;]] 05:06, 12 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thief and Covet will never be counted as variations if taking PP into account. --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 15:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:And that&#039;s the sad thing, they&#039;re pretty much the same kind of item-stealing damaging move. PP is a moot point! [[User:Toastypk|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#BB0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;~Toastypk&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#770077&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Loom.&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;]] 00:22, 13 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If there&#039;s only one thing different about a move variation, it can still be considered a variation. For example, {{m|Surf}} is one of the {{m|Flamethrower}} variations, because it has the same power, PP, and accuracy. The only thing different is the effect. [[User:Chocolate|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;6D351A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Chocolate&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:Chocolate|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;6D351A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Chat with Me&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 00:44, 13 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Actually, you could argue that Surf is a variation of Earthquake, since they have the same range and the same effect (none). Surf has more PP and less power, but it also has two things different from Flamethrower: range and effect. See? You can&#039;t just go &amp;quot;Oh they&#039;re close ENOUGH&amp;quot;, you have to pick your criteria and stick with it. Either effect counts or it doesn&#039;t count. Either range counts or it doesn&#039;t count. Either PP counts or it doesn&#039;t count. If you start flubbing things, that&#039;s only going to make things more complicated down the line. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 03:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Earthquake has the anti-{{m|Dig}} effect. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 02:55, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Good point, that&#039;s another thing they have in common, since Surf can hit during Dive too. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 03:15, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I don&#039;t think there needs to be a set of rigid rules for move variations.  By definition, variation implies differing conditions, character, and degree.  That said, I do think that a move variations should have identical or &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; similar effects.  PP and base power are relatively unimportant to me, when two moves have unique identical effects.  Consider Bind, Fire Spin, and Whirlpool: they are all multi-turn attacks that trap their foe.  They work exactly the same, and have relatively unique effects (only a handful of moves work like this).  However, Bulbapedia currently only considers Fire Spin and Whirlpool as &amp;quot;variations&amp;quot;.&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;mdash;&amp;amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 03:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I think that trapping should have its own page. It&#039;s not as if the creators sat around and thought, &amp;quot;Hey, wouldn&#039;t it be cool to have a clone of this move for that element?&amp;quot; I think the process was more like, &amp;quot;Hey, why not have this as a mechanic?&amp;quot; --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 05:12, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Minor problem with that though. Ember, Flamethrower and Fire Blast (and probably others but those are the big ones) all have a 10% chance of causing burn. Moreover, they&#039;re all Fire attacks. If we go solely by effect, then that makes them variations of each other. So then we have moves that are multiple variations in one. Is that really ok? I mean, I can see it going either way...&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::One possibility is to split it into two things, where there are moves that are strictly exact copies of each other minus type and specific effect (not % chance of effect though, that has to say the same), and then other moves that just do the same thing but are not exact copies. Like, if I want to look for moves that cause Burn, there could be a category that I could go to and look there, and likewise for moves that cause trapping, or moves that hit everyone on the field. Does that sound reasonable? [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 01:14, 15 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::I&#039;m not talking about secondary effects like 10% of burn or confusion.  I agree that there should be a [[list of moves that burn]] (not a category, unfortunately), but I don&#039;t think they should be considered variations.  In my mind, examples of move variations are moves that have some unique game mechanic, such as {{m|Wrap|multi-turn}} {{m|Magma Storm|trapping}} {{m|Sand Tomb|moves}}, {{m|Fly|moves with}} {{m|Dig|an initial}} {{m|Shadow Force|invulnerable}} {{m|Dive|turn}}, {{m|Block|moves that}} {{m|Spider Web|prevent}} {{m|Mean Look|escape}}, or {{m|Protect|moves that can negate}} {{m|Detect|all negative effects}}&amp;amp;mdash;Moves that work so similarly that there are, for example, abilities that negate the set of them or moves that counter-act a set of them.  These should be considered move variations.&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;mdash;&amp;amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 01:33, 15 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve always considered anything that does not cause damage on an otherwise damaging move to be a secondary effect so I think we are going to differ in thought there, unfortunately. Example: Razor Wind requires charging, has a high crit rate and deals damage, so the charging and high crit rate are both secondary effects. Screech causes only Defense down, so Defense down is the primary effect.&lt;br /&gt;
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Taking each thing in turn, I don&#039;t think that just because Wrap and Magma Storm both cause multi-turn trapping is enough for them to be considered variations. They ought to have a page specifying this, but this does not make them variations, in the same way as Ember and Flamethrower. Ditto with with the semi-invulnerable moves. They are different enough (note which moves can hit which during the invulnerable turn, not to mention Power) to warrant an obviously acknowledged &#039;&#039;similarity&#039;&#039; but not actual variations.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for your last two examples, those moves DO essentially do the exact same thing in every way, with the exception of PP, so I think, if we decide to exclude PP from the criteria (which I am fairly convinced we ought to do by now), then yes, I would consider those move variations.&lt;br /&gt;
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(Somewhat off-topic, why not a category instead of a page? Then there would be links from the moves pages themselves, so they can actually be found... The Pokédex has tons of categories, I&#039;ve noticed...) [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 02:14, 15 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Also, {{m|Mud-Slap}} and {{m|Sand-Attack}} are both Ground moves with a 100% chance of lowering Accuracy, and this can be prevented by abilities such as {{a|Keen Eye}}, but they&#039;re still clearly not variations of each other, right? (Asking because I consider Wrap and Bind and the like to be moves with 100% chance of causing trapping) [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 02:24, 15 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Why aren&#039;t Wrap and Magma Storm variations?  They have the same primary effects (inflict damage over several turns at the end of each turn) and secondary effects (trap target during those turns).  (Though there&#039;s no official source ordering those as primary and secondary; they could just as easily be reversed.)  I realize that Ember and Flamethrower also have the same primary and secondary effects, but another issue I pointed out above is &#039;&#039;unique game-mechanics&#039;&#039;.  There are a hundred moves that have the same primary effect as Ember and Flamethrower (inflict damage) and very similar secondary effects (10% of a major status ailment).  However, there are only 5 moves that work like Wrap and Magma Storm.  I think that makes them remarkable enough to be noted as move variations.&lt;br /&gt;
::Since the definition of variation means details can vary.  That means we could consider numerous damaging moves to be variations of each other.  But I don&#039;t think it&#039;s notable if they don&#039;t have something that sets them apart from other moves.&lt;br /&gt;
::(As for the category thing, I don&#039;t know for sure, but the tons of categories issue might be the reason they didn&#039;t want even more categories for each detail.)&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;mdash;&amp;amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 02:39, 15 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It seems to me like what you want would be better expressed in a different page, like &amp;quot;Moves that cause the same unique effects&amp;quot; ...Okay, &amp;quot;same unique&amp;quot; is a bit oxymoronic, but you know what I mean. ^^;&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The reason I chose Mud-Slap and Sand-Attack as examples is because they ARE unique, in that Accuracy is not a standard stat, and there are only 5 moves that lower accuracy (and none that raise it, I think): Mud-Slap, Sand-Attack, {{m|Flash}}, {{m|Mirror Shot}}, and {{m|Muddy Water}}, but these are clearly not similar in any other way but that. (Asides from Flash and Sand-Attack, I would consider those variations of the other, with Gen IV&#039;s de-nerfing of Flash.) This page seems to have been created to illustrate which moves have only minor differences, with Power, Accuracy and % effect and PP cited specifically as things that must be the same. No matter which way you cut it, the only thing Wrap and Magma Storm have in common is their secondary multi-turn trapping effect, and I consider multi-turn trapping damage to be a single secondary effect (You are never going to have one of those moves inflict one without the other). Primary effect defaults to damage except for moves that do not ever deal damage. The game even categorizes them as Physical [[Image:PhysicalIC.gif]] and Special [[Image:SpecialIC.gif]], not Status [[Image:StatusIC.gif]]. You can cite their uniqueness, but there are only so many moves that do unique, specific things, like Burn, or charge, or high-crit, but then you&#039;ll end up with almost every move out there having at least one if not multiple variations. If you want to get really unique, {{m|Flame Wheel}} and {{m|Sacred Fire}} are the only moves that can thaw out their user. That makes them variations according to your definition, but they have nothing in common according to the definition already defined on this page. I think this all does deserve to be noted somewhere, but I don&#039;t think this is the right place, is what I&#039;m trying to say. ._.; [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:06, 15 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I am aware that calling certain moves variations of each other would go against the narrow definition of move variations already defined by this page, but I think it is incorrect.  I give up though, so I&#039;ll just continue ignoring it.&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;mdash;&amp;amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 04:40, 15 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Aren&#039;t they variations of each other? --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 08:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Someone should go down this whole talk page and just do it. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 08:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Phred: They have the same effect, it looks like, but Detect has half of Protect&#039;s PP, so no, not according to our definition.&lt;br /&gt;
::Raijinili: What? --[[User:Martonimos|((&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#008000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Marton&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Martonimos|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#50C878&amp;quot;&amp;gt;imos&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;))]] 08:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Although there are moves that say &amp;quot;10 or 15 pp&amp;quot; or something similar, so maybe... --[[User:Martonimos|((&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#008000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Marton&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Martonimos|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#50C878&amp;quot;&amp;gt;imos&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;))]] 08:33, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I think a difference in PP is a poor reason not to consider two moves as variations of each other.  They obviously have the same effect.&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;mdash;&amp;amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 08:40, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::To the point where the two moves share the same success rate. --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 23:47, 14 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rock Slide and Air Slash ==&lt;br /&gt;
Both have 75 BP, 30% Chance of Flinch, and 95(?) Accuraccy. I think that makes them variations on the same move.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 16:01, 25 January 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thief and Covet ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The only item-stealing damaging moves, with same power and accuracy, are yet to be covered here. I dropped a line earlier in hopes of the issue being picked up by more people, but it failed, my mistake. So I chose to be more direct in approach and now I ask, if other moves have ignored PP in favor of more relevant traits, shouldn&#039;t these two be listed as variations? I think there even used to be a template for both, but it got deleted. --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 16:13, 9 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== {{m|Glare}} and {{m|Stun Spore}} ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Same effect, PP, accuracy and power (or the lack of it), varies on type only . These are variations, so I&#039;ll add them, but I don&#039;t know how to put the template on the move pages... {{u|Mr. Charlie}} 22:57, 14 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Strength as first in a variation ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve realized that Dragon Claw and the others are exactly like Strength but in type, so i&#039;ve changed that, and made Strength as the first in the variation. This is my first edit, i hope it&#039;s all-right, I don&#039;t know if the move wasn&#039;t in there because it is a HM.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Kudos for effort there. But yeah, we don&#039;t include HMs so it&#039;ll have to go back to how it was. Sorry. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::&#039;&#039;we don&#039;t include HMs&#039;&#039; Doesn&#039;t explain Waterfall, and no, &amp;quot;it wasn&#039;t a HM originally&amp;quot; doesn&#039;t seem like a good rationale to me. [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 12:09, 15 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, I hadn&#039;t realized this at the time, but the variations of Waterfall have the flinching effect. And I see what you mean when you say that about not explaining it well. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:08, 15 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weather Moves ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Aren&#039;t the weather moves variations of each other? Or at least Rain Dance/Sunny Day and Snadstorm/Hail? I mean, they all change to a weather for five turns. [[User:Mr. Charlie|Mr. ]][[User talk:Mr. Charlie|Charlie]] 18:25, 27 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I guess you could consider them variations of each other, but I&#039;ve never really thought of them like that. I&#039;d wait to add it untill more people agree or disagree. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 18:51, 27 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::They all change weather but their effects are different. Well, indirectly. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 21:40, 28 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That&#039;s the thing... I don&#039;t know if it should be added or not... they&#039;re like the elemental punches (damage + chance of status problem), because they change the weather condition during the battle and have a side effect... [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:07, 28 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Go for it. Sunny Day, Rain Dance and Hail are all exactly the same (IIRC) and Sandstorm has 5 more PP. I&#039;m not sure whether that matters, coz you guys had a huge argument about that... &amp;amp;mdash; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#0000C8&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE TROM&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] &amp;amp;mdash; 23:26, 28 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Should I add it as &amp;quot;Variations of *insert weather move*&amp;quot; or as &amp;quot;Weather Conditions/Moves&amp;quot;? I&#039;ll add it anyways, but should it need to have the title changed I&#039;ll do that. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:04, 29 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Or should it be, like the original question, Rain Dance/Sunny Day and Sandstorm/Hail? Eh, I&#039;ll put it all together for now and it can be changed later.... [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:09, 29 April 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Powders and Flattering ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How come that {{m|PoisonPowder}}, {{m|Sleep Powder}} and {{m|Stun Spore}} aren&#039;t move variations? They have the same accuracy, animation, the same Contest appeal and Pokémon learn them around the same time, it kind of makes sense that they are.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Also {{m|Flatter}} and {{m|Swagger}} are variations as they both confuse but Swagger ups attack and Flatter ups Special Attack, I&#039;m not sure how to add them lmao, I thought I should say it here first though ;) --[[User:Ripp145|Ripp145]] 12:23, 26 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Apparently, Flatter only raises Special Attack one stage, while Swagger raises Attack by two stages. Also, both have different accuracy. Too many differences to qualify. --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 02:33, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::The powders aren&#039;t considered variations yet?! &#039;&#039;Alpha&#039;&#039; [[User:CuboneKing|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Cu&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User talk:CuboneKing|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Bronze&amp;quot;&amp;gt;bo&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ne&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;Black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;King&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 02:36, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::If we&#039;re discussing variations to add, I have a couple suggestions.&lt;br /&gt;
:Arm Thrust as a variation of Barrage&lt;br /&gt;
:Bind and Wrap as variations of Fire Spin&lt;br /&gt;
:Dark Pulse as variation of Zen Headbutt&lt;br /&gt;
:Fire Blast and Megahorn as variations of Blizzard&lt;br /&gt;
::With all these variations, they share identical effects, power and PP. The only difference between the suggested moves and the established moves is that accuracy is a tiny bit higher or lower. Also, some of the moves listed as variations don&#039;t qualify but are listed anyway. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:02, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Okay, I made a change that in hindsight I&#039;m unsure of. In Gen 3, Leaf Blade fit the requirements to be considered a variation of Slash - 70 power, 15 pp, 100% accuracy, high chance for critical. But in Gen 4 it&#039;s power is 90, and it has its own variation now, Attack Order. So....what do we do? IMO, it should be considered variations of both, depending on the Generation. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 04:01, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Yeah, no. The Barrage variations all have the same power and accuracy, Arm Thrust only has the same power. Fire Blast and Megahorn are different than Blizzard for a lot of things: Fire Blast has more accuracy, Megahorn has more accuracy, Megahorn has no secondary effect. Dark Pulse has more accuracy than Zen Headbutt. Bind, Wrap, and Fire Spin all have differnt accuracies. There&#039;s more to this page than just &amp;quot;Oh, it looks similar or has similar accuracy/PP/Power/type!&amp;quot; There&#039;s reasons that most of these aren&#039;t on there. The ones that don&#039;t seem like they fit are included because they either were the same, or are now the same. And Leaf Blade doesn&#039;t count, because it&#039;s already in a category that&#039;s more specific. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 20:15, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why does Leaf Blade not count? It fit all the requirements before it&#039;s power was changed, if it doesn&#039;t count than neither does Zap Cannon as a variation of Dynamic Punch. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:26, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:And like I said, there&#039;s already moves listed as variations that don&#039;t fit the requirements to count, or the requirements are flexible like &amp;quot;move does X or Y&amp;quot;. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:28, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I went through the list, here&#039;s some examples of the above:&lt;br /&gt;
::Blizzard&#039;s requirements are &amp;quot;5 or 10 PP&amp;quot;, because otherwise Thunder wouldn&#039;t qualify. Also, Focus Blast doesn&#039;t qualify because it doesn&#039;t cause a status ailment&lt;br /&gt;
::Zap Cannon is listed as a variation of Dynamic Punch, but it has different power.&lt;br /&gt;
::Seed Flare is listed as a variation of Fire Blast, but it doesn&#039;t cause a status ailment.&lt;br /&gt;
::Surf is listed as a variation of Flamethrower but doesn&#039;t cause a status, and it says so right on the page&lt;br /&gt;
::Giga Drain&#039;s requirements again, &amp;quot;5 or 10 PP&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m just saying, why are exceptions made for some moves to count them as variations, and not others? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:47, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::PP is the only exception we make for differences. Zap Cannon and DynamicPunch are different than Leaf Blade. Did you even bother READING what I said about Leaf Blade other than that it doesn&#039;t count? It&#039;s in a category that&#039;s much more specific. It&#039;s with [[Template:Leaf Blade|Attack Order]]. Seed Flare and Fire Blast have the same power and accuracy, and both can have a secondary effect. As for Surf, I&#039;ve always wondered that. I&#039;ll take that out of the template and this page. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Yes I did read it, and I asked why Leaf Blade counts for Attack Order over Slash, when at times it has fulfilled the requirements to be a variation of both. And in that case, I&#039;ll assume Focus Blast gets the same exception as Seed Flare does. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 21:20, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Moves can&#039;t be in more than one category, which is why Leaf Blade is with Attack Order, since they match exactly except for type. And you&#039;re still missing what I&#039;ve been saying. If they have different accuracies, they don&#039;t match. Focus Blast has 70%, and Seed Flare has 85%. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:29, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I am paying attention to what you&#039;re saying. Now pay attention to what I&#039;m saying. Focus Blast does not cause a status ailment as the other variations do, and Seed Flare doesn&#039;t either. Zap Cannon and Focus Blast have different powers. So why are they listed? And again, &#039;&#039;Leaf Blade can count as a variation of both Slash and Attack Order&#039;&#039;, so why do we count one over the other? Why are some exceptions made and not others? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 21:34, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, I don&#039;t think you are. Focus Blast has a &#039;&#039;secondary effect&#039;&#039; like the others do, it&#039;s not limited to status or stat changes. As for Zap Cannon and Focus Blast, I just realized that yeah, it shouldn&#039;t be there. I&#039;ll change that too. If we put Leaf Blade in the Slash variations, then there wouldn&#039;t be one for Attack Order. And yeah, Leaf Blade &#039;&#039;used&#039;&#039; to be in both categories. It&#039;s not anymore. It has more power than Slash. The only ones that I can find that have different powers as of Gen IV are the Petal Dance variations. I&#039;ll see what I can do about that too. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:57, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::That would be nice. I&#039;m not trying to cause trouble or anything, and I&#039;m sorry for arguing with you. I&#039;m just noticing a double-standard in regards to the variations of some moves and want them sorted out one way or the other. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 22:00, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I don&#039;t mind. Arguments need to be more than just &amp;quot;I&#039;m right, you&#039;re wrong!&amp;quot; and stupid things like that, and thankfully this wasn&#039;t one of those times. This article has also had some issues with getting things like that straight, so glad you said something or it would have stayed that way. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 22:04, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::No problem. I admit I&#039;m biased though, when I think of move variations I&#039;m not as tight in my requirements as this page. I still feel like Hydro Pump ought to be a variation of something, but it doesn&#039;t fit any profiles here. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 22:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Lock-On and Mind Reader ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why aren&#039;t they here? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:43, 2 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Swapping moves ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Heart Swap (maybe), Power Swap, and Guard Swap. All Psychic-type, 10 PP, Status. What do you think? [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B69E00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E1E1E1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:52, 5 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Support. Don&#039;t forget {{m|Skill Swap}}! [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 02:06, 5 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::That&#039;s ability though... also, what you did is a redirect. Learn... [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B69E00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E1E1E1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 02:20, 5 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Still a Psychic-type, 10 PP, Status. As for redirect, so? It&#039;s a talk page. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 02:25, 5 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Argh... no... may as well say EVERY single status move. It doesn&#039;t matter typing as long as it&#039;s related. As for redirect, this still applies... [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B69E00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E1E1E1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 02:29, 5 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::No, not &amp;quot;every&amp;quot; status move. I see four moves with &amp;quot;Swap&amp;quot; in their names all of which involve switching some sort of statistic with the opponent. What&#039;s the problem? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:03, 5 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Never mind. We&#039;ll keep it as that then. [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B69E00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E1E1E1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 03:08, 5 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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So we&#039;re adding them? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:16, 5 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Screech Variations ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Couldn&#039;t Cotton Spore be a Screech Variation? It&#039;s not a sound move, but it does lower one target&#039;s speed by two levels and has the same PP and Accuracy. [[User:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Mr. Charlie&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#0000FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TalkToMe&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 04:26, 18 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== {{m|Karate Chop}} and {{m|Poison Tail}} ==&lt;br /&gt;
25 PP, 50 power, 100 Accuracy, high critical-hit ratios. What do you think? Also, would this need a new template to stick on the bottom of the move pages? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 05:46, 6 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Creating and adding. Any other moves that could go on this template? &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 13:34, 6 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I don&#039;t think so, I looked at the other Critical Hit moves, none fit the definition. {{m|Air Cutter}} is close but its not exact. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 15:05, 6 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Alright. Just wanted to make sure nothing needed to be added. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:16, 6 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Counter Moves ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, i&#039;m a fan of the counter moves and i&#039;ve noticed something, why isn&#039;t Metal Burst counted as a variation? I&#039;ve used Mirror Coat and Counter with Glaceon and Hitmonchan respectively and Metal Burst does the effects of &#039;&#039;&#039;both&#039;&#039;&#039; Mirror Coat and Counter. [[User:Geomexis|Geomexis]] 12:51, 16 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Because they aren&#039;t very close. If the effect has something different (such as Metal Burst has both, while Mirror Coat and Counter only have one), it isn&#039;t a variation.  [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 13:00, 16 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Counter specifically only repays physical damage double what was taken, and Mirror Coat specifically only repays special damage double what was taken. Metal Burst repays 1.5 damage, or what was taken plus half of that amount. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Team Rocket|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #550000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R.A.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hunter&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#FF2400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blade&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 19:02, 16 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Kisses ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{m|Lovely Kiss}} and {{m|Sweet Kiss}} &lt;br /&gt;
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Same accuracy, same PP. First cause sleep, second - confusion. Aren&#039;t move variations? --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 15:08, 30 March 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tackle and Peck together? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{m|Tackle}} and {{m|Peck}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The two moves are in a grouping together, but I believe they should not be.  They share the Base Power of 35, but while Tackle is 95% accurate, and it mistakenly says Peck to be, Peck is 100% accurate.  -- [[User:Mattman324]] 22:58:00, 23 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Peck and Tackle aren&#039;t variations. Especially in generation V, where Tackle received a BP of 50. Myself, I would put Peck with Vine Whip, because they both have 35 BP, 100% accuracy and no special effect. Their PP, however, differs significantly, but does that really matter? (see below) --[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 15:47, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Signal Beam ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I know it seems weird, but {{m|Signal Beam}} is kinda of a variation of the elemental punches... 75 power, 100 acc, 15 PP and 10% of causing status. It breaks the &amp;quot;tradition&amp;quot;, so to speak, but it fits more than many of the other variations here.  [[User:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Mr. Charlie&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#0000FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TalkToMe&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:38, 4 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==This page needs COLOR!==&lt;br /&gt;
Seriously, it looks really dull, which is especially bad seeing as it&#039;s pretty much all tables. One of the coding wizards here should try to make a template that incorporates colors for the type of each variation and whether they are physical, special, or a status move. For status moves, color them differently based on which stat they change or status effect they inflict—whatever it takes to make this dull-looking article into an attractive resource. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;P&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;K&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;M&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;N&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;]] 16:46, 1 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was just thinking of that myself, then I thought something like this would be perfect. But, you know, with colors for generations and stuff. I&#039;m not a coding guy, I just throw the ideas. I don&#039;t mind working on the entire page, if needed, but I really don&#039;t know how.  [[User:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Mr. Charlie&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#0000FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TalkToMe&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 12:00, 2 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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That looks good. You can probably lose the class=&amp;quot;sortable&amp;quot; since the tables are all small. And make sure you use the region colors for the generation. &amp;amp;mdash;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family:Verdana&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;darklord&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0047AB&amp;quot;&amp;gt;trom&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 10:04, 8 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah... The &amp;quot;how&amp;quot; with the generation/region colors is my issue here. Could you, or anyone, show me how to do it? Really not my area of expertise. [[User:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Mr. Charlie&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#0000FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TalkToMe&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:58, 10 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::How&#039;s this &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;Edit: link removed&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; for a quick mock-up? &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 04:40, 12 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I likey. Let&#039;s use it. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;P&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;K&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;M&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;N&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;]] 11:20, 12 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I like the idea, but don&#039;t forget that it will take longer to load this page.--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 15:36, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== PP ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the article it says that moves need to have the same PP to be variations, but throughout the article it lists moves of differing PP as variations. Should they be removed? [[User:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#d0000d&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;boopee&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pikiwyn&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;]] 17:46, 11 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, I would think so. You can&#039;t have the article contradict itself, can you? &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;;)&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; [[User:The Exterminator|The Exterminator]] 17:53, 11 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree, for my edit and talk page reasons. It&#039;s [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig A]]! [[User talk:Turtwig A|My talk]] or [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|wiki edits]] 00:52, 12 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::An article indeed shouldn&#039;t contradict itself. That&#039;s why the definition itself needs to be altered. --[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 16:27, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Definition ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The definition isn&#039;t specific enough. &amp;quot;Move variations are moves that are identical to each other in terms of damage, PP, and accuracy, but have different elemental types, damage categories, or secondary effects.&amp;quot; The definition works for damaging moves but according to it almost all status moves that have the same PP are variations of each other. So I&#039;m thinking maybe the article needs a different definition for status moves? [[User:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#d0000d&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;boopee&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pikiwyn&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;]] 17:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:How about something like, Status move variations are moves that raise or decrease the same number of stats by the same number of levels. It makes more sense because that way moves like Iron Defense will be a variant of Acid Armor, instead of the current description which makes Baton Pass a variant of Acid Armor. [[User:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#d0000d&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;boopee&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pikiwyn&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;]] 13:37, 29 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::This is what the definition should be: &amp;quot;Move varations are moves that are identical in terms of dammage and accuracy, and have similar secondary effects.&amp;quot; --[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 16:33, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thrash, Petal Dance, and Outrage ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Here&#039;s my question.  Thrash and Petal Dance are grouped together, but Outrage is not included only because is has 15 PP instead of 10.  This difference seems minor to me, and so I think Outrage should be insluded in this group, with a note on it.  If this doesn&#039;t work, then it doesn&#039;t work, but I know for a fact that most people focos on the actual move and its effects, not the PP it has.  There are even people in this talk (although from 2 years ago lol) that group them together, and I know that most people think they are the same move with different types, especially now that they have the same power in Gen V. --[[User:Jdthebud|Jdthebud]] 23:11, 8 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I know that we don&#039;t want the article to contradict itself in this regard, but I think that these three moves are so similar that this could be the exception to the rule. --[[User:Jdthebud|Jdthebud]] 23:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Outrage should be included. Reason: see below.--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 15:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== PP shouldn&#039;t be taken into account ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Taking the PP into account makes the list messier and more incomplete. They are also not the most important aspect anyway ingame: it doesn&#039;t really matter if a move has 35 PP or 40 PP. Seperating Night Slash from Slash, for example, causes an unnecesary amount of slots.--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 15:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree 100%.  PP is such a minor detail, it shouldn&#039;t even matter.  The important thing is base power, similar or identical side effects, and accuracy.  Any move that only serves to boost a stat by two stages is a variation of Acid Armor.  Well, I&#039;m not entirely sure on Body Purge, given its other effect of halving the user&#039;s weight, but still.  My point is, PP shouldn&#039;t be taken into account.  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;- &#039;&#039;unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 16:35, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree too. IMO, the amount of PP is more minor than {{tt|Damage Category|although it shouldn&#039;t be included}}.----&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;無限の知性&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#BF0B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ＤＥＮＮＯＵ&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Special:Random|◆]]&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#1250A6&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ＺＥＮＳＨＩ&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 16:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I also agree, it doesn&#039;t make sense that something like acid armor isn&#039;t a variant of iron defense. [[User:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#d0000d&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;boopee&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pikiwyn&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;]] 17:32, 14 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::OK, so if the majority think that PP shouldn&#039;t count, we can put it back how it was. I changed it because it seemed that people wanted PP to count. I think it should be considered at least under some circumstances. I will stop changing the templates for move variations until the issue is resolved. &lt;br /&gt;
::::Also, it did not create an excessive amount of categories—several were deleted and several were made, balancing out. And PP is much more influential the damage categories. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 08:12, 15 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Ok, it&#039;s maybe better to wait until there aren&#039;t any issues about that anymore. You can always watch the version regardless of PP (where I was responsible for) at this URL: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Move_variations&amp;amp;oldid=1253819--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 19:38, 15 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::After discussing it with a couple of other admins, we decided that the PP does not have to be the same, but it should be similar. i.e. it should differ by five or less. More than that is an indication that the moves aren&#039;t especially similar. &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:38, 5 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Different catagories==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have seperated the status moves from the other moves. The sharply-stat raising moves (besides those of 15PP) are now next to each other.--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 16:56, 16 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Haze &amp;amp; Mist ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can someone add Haze &amp;amp; Mist to the list (they are counterparts)?[[User:Vuvuzela2010|Vuvuzela2010]] 08:32, 23 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Shadow Ball/Crunch as variations of Waterfall ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I added them to variations of waterfall and changed the definition of waterfall so that they both fit. But since all previous variations caused flinching, and the two I added lower defense /sp. def should they be considered two different moveset variations? Also, the templates under shadow ball and crunch I left as they are because I have no idea how to do it, or if even they are in fact variations of waterfall. Thanks...&lt;br /&gt;
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== Extreme Speed and Sucker Punch ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{m|ExtremeSpeed}} now has +2 priority instead of +1. So, isn&#039;t it not a variation of {{m|Sucker Punch}} anymore? Also Sucker Punch work in different way, so this moves seems even less likely to be variations. --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 09:39, 4 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Elemental Surfs? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Discharge is like surf, affecting all opponents. Also a poison move.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also Poison Fang should be with the fangs.[[User:Tesseract|Tesseract]] 08:53, 10 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Discharge does not have the same base power as Surf. Therefore, not a variant. Poison Fang also does not have the same base power as the other fangs. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 08:58, 10 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Order of Oath Moves Doesn&#039;t Matter ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hasn&#039;t it been confirmed that the Oath moves can be used in any order to produce the same effect? Each individual page should be updated accordingly. (I figured I&#039;d say this here instead of repeating myself on each individual page. This page (Move Variations) seems correct, but the individual pages are not.) [[User:Grei|Grei]] 18:01, 18 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ignore base power differences, if the rest of the move is similar? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There may be one or two other examples of this, but the main one I&#039;m thinking about is Zap Cannon in relation to DynamicPunch and Purgatory. Just because the base power of Zap was increased to 120 shouldn&#039;t disqualify it from being a variation of the other two moves, because they all have the same, and probably more important and notable properties of 50% accuracy and the guaranteed infliction of a status ailment (type/ability permitting).&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, as an aside, why disqualify Surf from being similar to Tbolt, Flamer, Ice Beam and Slime Wave? It&#039;s also the Base 95, fully accurate move of it&#039;s type... &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TheChrisD|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;Verdana&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TheChrisD&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_talk:TheChrisD|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;lime&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rants&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;lime&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Edits&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:21, 25 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:{{m|Surf}} hit all opponents in double battles, while {{m|Ice Beam}} can freeze, {{m|Flamethrower}} inflict burn and so on, there is the difference. It&#039;s noted that {{m|Zap Cannon}} &#039;&#039;&#039;was&#039;&#039;&#039; a variation. Is there any other moves, which are similar except for base power really? --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 09:36, 25 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Still though, it does mean that they all have a secondary effect, simply because one of those effects does not actually inflict a status ailment shouldn&#039;t be enough to disqualify it from being considered a move variation, when in that case, the real important points to note of those moves are that they are the Base 95 move of their type.&lt;br /&gt;
::While Zap is currently being taken as a &#039;&#039;former&#039;&#039; variation, that&#039;s simply because of the change in Base Power - but in the case of their group, the most notable feature of them is their 50% accuracy and the infliction of the status ailment. Just because one of them was upgraded (for some unknown reason) really shouldn&#039;t be enough to disqualify it. I&#039;m not sure of any other cases where this could apply - Leaf Blade&#039;s base power increase was a different thing, because the other aspects of the group probably weren&#039;t as notable since it was just the &amp;quot;high crit rate&amp;quot; factor. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TheChrisD|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;Verdana&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TheChrisD&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_talk:TheChrisD|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;lime&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rants&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;lime&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Edits&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:59, 2 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Moves with different base powers and accuracies really aren&#039;t variations. PP is less of a concern, as it does not affect how the move functions (except {{m|Trump Card}}, where a variation would require identical PP). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 10:51, 13 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Psycho Shock ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Psycho Shock and Sword of Mystery (Keldeo&#039;s signature move).&lt;br /&gt;
special attack, 100% accurancy, 10 PP ,damage based on user&#039;s sp. attack and target&#039;s defence, but shock has 80 base power and sword has 85. --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:42, 24 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:If you&#039;re going to even think of these as variations, why not Psycho Break? [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] 18:48, 24 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Right, i forgot that one, thanks --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:53, 24 February 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Worry Seed ==&lt;br /&gt;
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and Simple Beam.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes? No?&lt;br /&gt;
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== Iron Tail And Dragon Rush? == &lt;br /&gt;
Same Accuracy, Power, Similar PP, {{m|Iron Tail}} Has a 10% Chance to cause a Defense drop, {{m|Dragon Rush}} has a 20% chance to flinch, Similar enough to qualify, do we think? [[User:ContraOmega|ContraOmega]] 15:47, 26 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Surf question? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Isn&#039;t [[Surf (move)|Surf]] variation of Flamethrower? Because if Sludge wave is then Surf should also be because it has the same base power of 95. [[User:Flygonfanno1|Flygonfanno1]] 07:32, 18 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sludge Wave should not have been marked as a variation, it has different targeting to Flamethrower variants. Surf is neither because it has different targeting and no secondary effect, while Sludge Wave has a 10% poison chance. &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 07:56, 18 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Variations of Bite ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m sorry but those moves have barely anything in common beyond power. The PP ranges, the Physical/Special changes between moves, they LOOK nothing alike, and the percentages of doing anything extra also vary. This should be removed. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Toon Ganondorf|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00693E&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Toon Ganondorf&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; ]]   [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D4AF37&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(t&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D4AF37&amp;quot;&amp;gt;c)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 13:18, 1 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Looks and damage category don&#039;t matter, but with such all over the place effects, I agree. The wide range of chances mean that they are similar, but not variations as far as I&#039;m concerned. That said, 20/25PP is probably close enough that the 30% chance ones could be considered variations. (I discussed this with several admins about a year ago, and viewpoints ranged from them needing to be identical PP, to PP not mattering. We reached an agreement that 5PP different was the maximum allowable, provided that they are the same in other aspects (power, accuracy, target and side effect chance). 5PP and 10PP would probably not be acceptable though.) Bite and Heart Stamp definitely are variations. &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 03:37, 2 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::So in short...? Bite and Heart Stamp stay but the rest go? I&#039;d be happy with that. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Toon Ganondorf|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00693E&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Toon Ganondorf&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; ]]   [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D4AF37&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(t&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D4AF37&amp;quot;&amp;gt;c)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 11:12, 4 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Bite and Heart Stamp stay, Dragonbreath could stay or go. What the effect is often doesn&#039;t matter, but then it&#039;s usually that they all give the same class of status effect, e.g. prz/frz/brn/psn/slp. Question is whether they are similar enough for the PP difference to be overlooked. (Opinions on this one would be nice, RC watchers), the rest definitely go. &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 02:02, 5 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::{{tt|Someone call for opinions?|slams the door against the wall}} Quite a few of these wouldn&#039;t pass for variations of anything. But then again, I have issues with the whole system here. I would naturally lump {{m|Hyper Beam}} and {{m|Giga Impact}} together, but the last thing I would put together would be {{m|Bite}} and {{m|DragonBreath}}. [[User:Truthseeker4449|Truth]][[User talk:Truthseeker4449|seeker]][[Special:Contributions/Truthseeker4449|4449]] 02:17, 5 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::{{m|Giga Impact}} is a Physical variation of {{m|Hyper Beam}}.  Variation can include damage category variations as well as type. &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 02:53, 5 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Table of Contents==&lt;br /&gt;
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The TOC is over 100 lines long and takes up a lot of space. Would it be more convenient if the table was limited to have only the four main sections listed? [[User:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#d0000d&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;chiller&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pikiwyn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;]] 21:23, 5 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:How&#039;s that? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 15:07, 3 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wrong Signature moves ==&lt;br /&gt;
Counter and Dig weren&#039;t Hitmonchan and Diglett Sign. Moves, because there were TM that taught them even in Gen I. {{unsigned|Reizo20}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== This needs changes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{redlink|:Template:Sludge Bomb|Template}} says that Sludge Bomb is a variation of Hyper Voice and Dragon Pulse, page doesn&#039;t... what? It needs changes (as in title). [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 10:28, 27 July 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Work Up and Bulk Up? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Shouldn&#039;t &amp;quot;Work Up&amp;quot; be listed as a variation of the move &amp;quot;Bulk Up&amp;quot;? {{unsigned|Slkr95}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dig - Dive - FLY? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that Fly might count as a variation of Dig. All three moves involve the user vanishing for a turn, so that only certain attacks work, then attacking when its opponent least expects it. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 14:53, 21 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:This page is subject to very strict guidelines in order to prevent speculation. Please read the first sentence of the main article to see why your suggestion is invalid. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:57, 21 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Taunt Variations ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could {{m|Disable}} be added to the list of variations of Taunt? It meets the PP and Accuracy requirements, and it &#039;&#039;does&#039;&#039; limit the opponent in some way. [[User:Schiffy|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;000999&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Schiffy&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;FF6600&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Speak to me&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;amp;#124;[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;What I&#039;ve done&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]) 19:05, 14 September 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Weather Ball and Payback ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could they be considered as variations? They&#039;re both moves of 50 base power that doubles under certain conditions, and they have the same PP, accuracy and targeting. The only difference is the type changes of Weather Ball. {{unsigned|El shendee}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sludge Bomb ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Now that Flamethrower and its variations have been reduced to 90 base power, they all now have the same base power as Sludge Bomb.  On top of that, Sludge Bomb has the same amount of PP as Ice Beam, and they&#039;ve all had the same accuracy the entire time.  Would this not qualify Sludge Bomb as a Flamethrower variation now?  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;- &#039;&#039;unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:36, 24 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Flamethrower variations have a 10% chance of afflicting a status condition, Sludge Bomb has 30%. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Glik|glik]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Glik|glak]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:44, 24 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, not all of Aurora Beam&#039;s variations have a 10% chance for their side effects.  Sludge and Spark have a 30% chance to paralyze and poison, respectively, and Low Sweep has a 100% chance of lowering Speed.  &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;- &#039;&#039;unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:56, 24 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Aurora Beam isn&#039;t Flamethrower; moves have different stipulations that determine their variations and they&#039;re not going to be the same. Aurora Beam variants all share three points with one point differing amungst them. Flamethrower variants share four points and one differing point, so we can&#039;t add another; that&#039;s why Sludge Wave isn&#039;t a variation, since it would add another differing point. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Glik|glik]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Glik|glak]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:13, 25 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Should Sweet Scent be considered a variation anymore? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Unlike its variations, it now decreases evasiveness by two stages, whereas its variations lower accuracy by one stage. [[User:Trainer Yusuf|Trainer Yusuf]] ([[User talk:Trainer Yusuf|talk]]) 11:39, 20 July 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fairy Wind ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Fairy Wind seems to fit into two tables at once (Water Gun and Gust). [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 12:03, 20 July 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Which is why the rule that allows moves to have different PP, but not by more than 5, is flawed. Either any PP constraint should be removed, or PP should be required to be the same (my preference). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 12:11, 20 July 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dragon Rush - Iron Tail - Egg Bomb ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Suggestion for addition:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{mvar/h|10 or 15|power=100|acc=75|notes=Chance of causing a secondary effect|PP=PP|other=Secondary effect}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|II|other=30% chance to lower defense|PP=15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{mvar|Dragon Rush|Dragon|Physical|IV|other=20% chance to flinch|PP=10}}&lt;br /&gt;
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There is also Egg Bomb - 10 PP, 100 power, 75% accuracy, but no additional effect.&lt;br /&gt;
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Comments? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 21:50, 20 July 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I disagree. They have significantly different additional effects, which all have different chances of occurring. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 03:35, 21 July 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::So do the listed variations of Blizzard, Crunch, and Waterfall. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 05:13, 21 July 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Head Charge ==&lt;br /&gt;
Is the a reason why Head Charge isn&#039;t listed as a variant of Double Edge? Or can I add it to the table? [[User:Megalorex|Megalorex]] ([[User talk:Megalorex|talk]]) 12:35, 9 December 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The amount of recoil differs. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 07:09, 10 December 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Oops, was looking at the gen 1 summary [[User:Megalorex|Megalorex]] ([[User talk:Megalorex|talk]]) 11:50, 10 December 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sludge and Heat wave ==&lt;br /&gt;
I think that these two moves are variations because they share the same 95 power,10 PP,100% accuracy,the same 10% chance for a second effect, and can hit all nearby foes. Would you guys agree? [[User:CoolMan6001|CoolMan6001]] ([[User talk:CoolMan6001|talk]]) 03:45, 7 March 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Actually heat wave has 90% not 100% [[User:CoolMan6001|CoolMan6001]] ([[User talk:CoolMan6001|talk]]) 13:14, 30 March 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== PP variation in both directions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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After some debate about whether or not PP should matter, it was agreed upon that it wouldn&#039;t as long as it was within 5. This created a problem in Generation VI with variations of {{m|Strength}}. Strength has 15 PP, some of its variations have 20 PP, but {{m|Dazzling Gleam}} has 10 yet is similar enough in every other way to be rightly included. It only differs from the &amp;quot;base&amp;quot; move by 5; however it is in a different direction than the other variations. Excluding Dazzling Gleam would be as absurd as adding it but excluding {{m|Power Gem}} and {{m|Drill Peck}}. For this reason, I&#039;ve added it, and strongly feel it should stay. (This issue may arise with other moves I haven&#039;t looked at yet, in which case I&#039;ll do the same thing). Some may point out that Dazzling Gleam differs in being able to affect multiple targets. However, this has never been an issue with variations, because {{m|Blizzard}} does the same thing. I see no reason not to include it. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:05, 8 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Discuss please: Move Tutor vs. level-up */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Elemental Hyper Beams==&lt;br /&gt;
In Gen. III, only Charizard, Venusaur and Blastoise could learn [[Blast Burn]], [[Frenzy Plant]] and [[Hydro Cannon]], respectively. The Johto starters could learn it too, but only by being traded from XD (just like [[Lugia]] and [[Psycho Boost]]). Should the 3 HB variations be included in this list, since other &amp;quot;former&amp;quot; signature moves are also included?--[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 02:12, 28 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Feel free to add it at the bottom of the page, but note that all the fully-evolved starters can learn them in Generation IV. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 00:11, 4 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::You know, there&#039;s not really too much of a point to replying to topics well over a month old. --[[User:Martonimos|((&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#008000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Marton&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Martonimos|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#50C878&amp;quot;&amp;gt;imos&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;))]] 00:23, 4 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Skarmory?==&lt;br /&gt;
Should Skarmory with Steel Wing be included here? After all, it is the only Pokemon that can learn it naturally.&lt;br /&gt;
:That would be a good case to make. Question is, how many others do that? &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;E&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 03:14, 15 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Hitmonlee with {{M|Mega Kick}} [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 03:56, 15 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::And I&#039;m sure there are more, like Hitmonchan and {{m|Vacuum Wave}}.  I, too, am used to call moves &amp;quot;signature&amp;quot; when they&#039;re exclusive to few by leveling up. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:55, 18 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
What about [[Porygon-Z]] and [[Trick Room]]? Though Trick Room is a [[TM]], only Porygon-Z learns it naturally. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 17:55, 25 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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What about [[Metagross]] and [[Meteor Mash]]?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Mooshykris|Mooshykris]] 22:02, 20 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Clefairy]] learns [[Meteor Mash]], though...hardly exclusive...&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Myrmidon|Myrmidom]]&lt;br /&gt;
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And [[Chimchar]] with [[Facade]], this is the same scenario as [[Trick Room]]. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 15:18, 21 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Level-up otherwise exclusive to TMs? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, I just wanted to organize what&#039;s been said above. What we have so far is...&lt;br /&gt;
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{| border=1 align=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background: #C0C0FF;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! [[TM]] or [[HM]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Move]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Pokémon]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Level]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Generation]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | [[TM01]]&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{m|Focus Punch}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{p|Vigoroth}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 43&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 43&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM21]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Frustration}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Buneary}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 13&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM27]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Return}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Lopunny}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 13&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM42]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Facade}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Chimchar}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 31&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot; | [[TM47]]&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot; | {{m|Steel Wing}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot; | {{p|Skarmory}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 49&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 32&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 38&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[HM05]] ([[Generation III]])&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{m|Flash}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{p|Volbeat}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | --&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM70]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM72]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Avalanche}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Smoochum}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 31&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM72]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Avalanche}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Jynx}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 33&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM92]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Trick Room}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Porygon-Z}}&lt;br /&gt;
| --&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | [[HM07]]&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | {{m|Waterfall}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | {{p|Goldeen}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 37&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 38&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 38&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 37&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | [[HM07]]&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | {{m|Waterfall}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | {{p|Seaking}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 39&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 41&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 41&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 40&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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If anyone thinks of any others, go on and add them in here. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;E&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 23:54, 21 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: As I said above, Hitmonlee with {{M|Mega Kick}}.  [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 01:52, 22 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I placed it [[#Level-up_otherwise_exclusive_to_Move_Tutors.3F|here]] so that we stay in a [[Generation III]]/[[Generation IV|IV]] scope. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 04:22, 22 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Uh, Raquazza and Fly! Only he learns through level up!--&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A020F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Quick Man|Quick Man]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 12:57, 15 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*coughs* Salamence. That&#039;s like his family&#039;s evolution story line. And I think it should be at least mentioned about Abra, and how he only uses Teleport.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Read [[Salamence#Learnset|this]] [[User:Kkllnn|Blastoise RULZ]] 20:03, 12 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Meowth&#039;s Pay Day (Generation I&#039;s TM16) should probably be in this section as well... [[User:Blue Charizard|Blue Charizard]] 18:00, 2 April 2010&lt;br /&gt;
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== Level-up otherwise exclusive to Move Tutors? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This might be useful if &amp;quot;signature move&amp;quot; is furtherly redefined. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 04:21, 22 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{| border=1 align=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background: #C0C0FF;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Move]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Pokémon]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Level]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Generation]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | {{m|Mega Kick}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | {{p|Hitmonlee}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 53&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 46&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 46&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 49&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Level-up otherwise exclusive to breeding? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the article, {{m|Octazooka}} is listed as being signature of only {{p|Octillery}}, and {{m|Present}} is listed as being signature of only {{p|Delibird}} (just to mention some), which is true only if the definition of &amp;quot;signature moves&amp;quot; includes this type of moves. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 06:06, 22 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{| border=1 align=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background: #C0C0FF;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Move]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Pokémon]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Level]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Generation]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{m|Icicle Spear}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{p|Shellder}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 8&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}} ([[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|FR/LG]])&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 13&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{m|SmellingSalt}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{p|Makuhita}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 31&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 22&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{m|SmellingSalt}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{p|Hariyama}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 33&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 22&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Vacuum Wave}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Hitmonchan}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 26&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== About evolved forms ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Should stone-induced evolved forms be listed?  {{p|Pikachu}} and {{p|Raichu}} appear in the article.  However, the species that actually learns {{m|Volt Tackle}} is {{p|Pichu}} (making the [[Pokémon Battle Revolution#Colosseums|Battle Revolution Pikachu]] a [[Signature move#Trivia|trivia section]] material).  If Raichu can appear in the list, then {{p|Togekiss}} and {{p|Mismagius}} should, too. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:36, 22 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, I think that only the Pokémon that learns the move should be listed. So Pichu should be listed, but it&#039;s evolutions shouldn&#039;t. Only if the evolution learns the move then they an be listed. So both Cubone and Marowak learn Bonemerang, therefore both should be listed. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF594F;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESH&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User Talk:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#5FA7C6;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TALK&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 15:57, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Splash?==&lt;br /&gt;
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Would [[Splash (move)|Splash]] be eligible for inclusion here? A bunch of Pokémon can learn the move nowadays, but back in Generation I it was very much [[Magikarp (Pokémon)|Magikarp]]&#039;s trademark. A similar case is already included on the list (Petal Dance, which was exclusive to the Oddish line in Generation I). [[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]] 08:48, 20 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You&#039;re right, according to the current status of the article.  But I think that kind of moves shouldn&#039;t appear in the list.  IMO, in any case, [[Generation III]] stuff is the only past generation that should be mentioned, as it&#039;s compatible with [[Generation IV]], but I still don&#039;t like the idea.&lt;br /&gt;
:I take it this all started with the ExtremeSpeed Dratini from the trivia section, right?  Well, that Dratini is obsolete, too.  I propose we get rid of ExtremeSpeed Dratini and there won&#039;t be need for the ExtremeSpeed Arcanine and the other obsolete groups. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:18, 20 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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NO! Lol, we should split this article into each Generation, with a trivia section for Pokémon that do not learn a move naturally. Like Dratini in GenII. I think this would be better. &amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F05030;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESH&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User Talk:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#5C8CFA;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TALK&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User:Tesh/Other|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#EEC226;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;FUN&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; 16:20, 20 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah... one of the things I was going to suggest was listing the likes of Splash, ExtremeSpeed and so on in a seperate table, for moves that were once exclusive to a single line, but aren&#039;t anymore. I think these moves are certainly worth mentioning somewhere in the article, as they might still be relevant to someone who&#039;s playing any of the older games. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:Bikini Miltank|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#ff7755&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Moo, I say.&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:33, 20 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::You mean like {{p|Blaziken}}&#039;s {{m|Blaze Kick}}? &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot; color:navy&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Hi&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:03, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Splash/Magikarp should be there, and Blaze Kick/Blaziken should have been there ages ago! &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Magnemite ==&lt;br /&gt;
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ok, sorry about that, but i think Zap Cannon should at least be there, other than the TM, only it and Porygon could learn it in Gen II. on that note, hows about Magnet Bomb, which only they and Nosepass/Probopass can learn? &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 04:59, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Skay. Magnet Bomb, however.. I think we should add that. [[User:Tina|Tina]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::idk, i still think Zap Cannon should be there. i didnt even know Porygon could learn it untill a few mins ago. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:06, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::As of GenIV, 13 Pokémon can learn Zap Cannon.. [[User:Tina|Tina]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::As in check the {{m|Zap Cannon}} page...&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot; color:navy&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Hi&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:12, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::ok, i thought there were notes for previous Gens. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:20, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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now wait a minute...Tina agreed that Magnet Bomb should be added as a sig move. besides, the page even says, &amp;quot;can only be learned by a single Pokémon &#039;&#039;&#039;or a very small select group of Pokémon&#039;&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot; both Magnemite and Probopass are Steel with magnet-ness. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:29, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::So? That would mean I had to kick in the kickingfeet Pokémon and the chicken...Reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
#They don&#039;t seem to be related...&lt;br /&gt;
#Five Pokémon isn&#039;t a small group&lt;br /&gt;
#Tina agreed, so I&#039;m saying the opposite...&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot; color:navy&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Hi&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:31, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::well...&lt;br /&gt;
::#they are related, magnet-ness alnog with both lvling up at Coronet&lt;br /&gt;
::#its technically only 2 Pokemon, Magnemite and Probopass, the page lists Mag&#039;s evo line and Probopass twice (for some reason)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:37, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ack! You win...&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot; color:navy&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Hi&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:39, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::i didnt fight because its Magnemite, i just fought for the truth! that being said, i still think Blaziken should be on there with a note about Gen 3 or somthing. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:43, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Capitalized please...Hitmonlee and Blaziken seems select enough...&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot; color:navy&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Hi&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Splitting ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This page needs to be split up into Generations I think. There are too many prior to Genration IV. [[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B7AD96;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESHIGIGAS&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[Image:486MS.png|RAWR!!]] 20:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, No. That&#039;s not needed. It&#039;s fine how it is. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Theryguy512|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF7F00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Theryguy&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Theryguy512|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#5C8CFA&amp;quot;&amp;gt;5&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#5C8CFA&amp;quot;&amp;gt;1&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#5C8CFA&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:22, 8 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::But then we could sychronise the trivia into it as well. [[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B7AD96;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESHIGIGAS&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[Image:486MS.png|RAWR!!]] 18:11, 9 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Small group? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since Mathis seems to have decided to take a chainsaw to the list, I have to ask: How big is a &amp;quot;small group&amp;quot; of Pokémon? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:24, 12 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:small group denotes 2 evo lines. so, as seen above, with {{m|Magnet Bomb}}, only two pokemon can learn it, with the exception of their own evos. -- &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAG&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#696969;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 19:31, 12 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Ok. *points at the top of the page* What about {{m|Meteor Mash}} then? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 00:45, 13 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::well, somone should add that to the page. along with the others in my opinion. though, it could be argued that Math earlier had the right idea. super exclusive only. -- &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAG&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#696969;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:55, 13 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Staryu ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In Generation III, [[Staryu]] was the only Pokemon who could learn [[Camouflage (move)|Camouflage]]. [[Mothim]] can now learn it in Gen IV. Nevertheless, I would assume that Staryu would count as a Pokémon with a signature move before Gen IV. -[[User:TIMMY|TIMMY]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: Added.  [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 20:31, 13 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Really, exactly two Pokemon knowing a move is still pretty exclusive. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 09:07, 14 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::We&#039;re still missing {{p|Mothim}} on there though...I guess I&#039;ll add it unless anyone has any objections...[[User:Ht14|ht14]] 00:35, 16 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Skitty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, Skitty (and Delecatty, but Skitty Evolves into that) were the only ones to know assist until Generation IV, I think Skitty deserves a mention (Delecatty doesn&#039;t scince she only learns VIA from Skitty knowing before evelution).--&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A020F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Quick Man|Quick Man]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 13:26, 14 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cleanup ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article NEEDS some cleanup... some signature moves don&#039;t make sense and some are in a lot of pokemon, so they should be removed. I think if a pokemon prior to Gen IV now learns a GEN IV move, it shouldn&#039;t be mentioned, &#039;cause it&#039;s obvious that another pokemon will learn the same move (for example Relicanth that learns [[Head Smash (move)|Cranidos&#039; signature]]. in that case Relicanth should be removed). If someone doesn&#039;t agree with me, then just undo it. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:47, 9 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s fine. &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#4B0082&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Pachirisulover12|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFD700&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PL&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFA500&amp;quot;&amp;gt;12&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:48, 9 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::It&#039;s fine if it&#039;s only one or two different evolution families. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 04:04, 9 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Crush Grip ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What about the Combusken who has Crush Grip in PBR {{unsigned|Tannerbro}}&lt;br /&gt;
:That Combusken is unobtainable &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 18:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I have seen no proof that exsits. Can someone (an admin) hide that comment until there is a picture or video shown so we can back up such a far fetched claim? [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 02:47, 4 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, hiding comments is virtually the same as deleting them, which isn&#039;t allowed. &#039;&#039;[[User:Moldy orange|&amp;lt;sup style=&amp;quot;color:#4B5320;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Moldy&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Moldy orange|&amp;lt;sub style=&amp;quot;color:#ED9121;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Orange&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039; 02:48, 4 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I&#039;m actually now wondering if this person was mistaking Crush Grip for the breedable {{m|Crush Claw}}... &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 01:14, 16 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Meteor Mash ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Meteor Mash should definitely be included, like only 2 pokémon lines can learn it, and like skull bash, is listed here which also has 2 pokémon lines so why shouldn&#039;t Meteor Mash be? And why is some Hitmonlee&#039;s and other POkemon&#039;s moves are asterixed when Medicham later on has Hi Jump Kick and isnt asterixed?? It should only be asterixed when the sig move has gone completely over eg extremespeed which the others rayquaza etc arent listed... ... [[User:Wowy|--&amp;amp;lt;large&amp;amp;gt; &amp;amp;quot;&amp;amp;#91;&amp;amp;#91;User:WoWy&amp;amp;#124;&amp;amp;lt;font color=&amp;amp;quot;blue&amp;amp;quot;;&amp;amp;gt;WoWy&amp;amp;lt;/font&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;#93;&amp;amp;#93;&amp;amp;quot;&amp;amp;lt;/large&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;#39;&amp;amp;#39;(&amp;amp;#91;&amp;amp;#91;User talk:Wowy&amp;amp;#124;&amp;amp;lt;font color=&amp;amp;quot;green&amp;amp;quot;;&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;lt;&amp;amp;lt;/font&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;#93;&amp;amp;#93;)&amp;amp;#39;&amp;amp;#39;]] 05:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)Wowy&lt;br /&gt;
:I think this article is the most controvesrial thing... I think that a signature move should be a move that onle ONE Pokémon learns... I mean these are the REAL signature moves:&lt;br /&gt;
:*Volt Tackle (Pikachu family)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Pay Day (Meowth)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Kinesis (Kadabra and Alakazam)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Barrage (Exeggcute family)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Bone Club (Cubone and Marowak)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Lovely Kiss (Smoochum and Jynx)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Conversion, Conversion2 and Sharpen (Porygons)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Spider Web (Spinarak and Ariados)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Pain Split (Misdreavus)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Octazooka (Octillery)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Present (Delibird)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Sketch (Smeargle)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Triple Kick (Hitmontop)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Milk Drink (Miltank)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Aeroblast (Lugia)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Sacred Fire (Ho-Oh)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Arm Thrust (Makuhita and Hariyama)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Teeter Dance (Spinda)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Poison Tail (Seviper)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Ice Ball (Spheal family)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Mist Ball (Latias)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Luster Purge (Latios)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Doom Desire (Jirachi)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Psycho Boost (Deoxys)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Attack, Defend and Heal Orders (Vespiqueen)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Chatter (Chatot)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Rock Wrecker (Rhyperior)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Roar of Time (Dialga)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Spacial Rend (Palkia)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Magma Storm (Heatran)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Crush Grip (Regigigas)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Shadow Force (Giratina)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Lunar Dance (Cresselia)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Heart Swap (Manaphy)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Dark Void (Darkrai)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Seed Flare (Shaymin)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Judgement (Arceus)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Any other move should not be in the list, because more than a family learns it. Remember that a signature is something that&#039;s from your own and no one else. That&#039;s why repeated moves should not be in the list. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 18:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I agree with this.  Also, {{m|Bonemerang}} is another exclusive move to the {{p|Cubone}} family.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#003366&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;$aturn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#008000&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;¥oshi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#800000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE VOICES&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:55, 23 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Moves===&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ll add Splash becoz only Magikarp had Splash in Gen I with an asterix sign, while Meteor Mash also becoz there are some moves listed here that have more than one move per pokémon, usally two. And who said that only one family needs a signature move and when it has two it&#039;s not. I&#039;ve never seen any official guide saying that. And Icicle Spear, Smelligsalt and Vacuum Wave I&#039;ll add becoz Octazooka is here which can also be bred. These moves are VERY free to undo if u wish. Oh and i&#039;ll add assist with an asterix as only skitty can learn in Gen III--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 07:17, 14 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Signature moves can be bred, that&#039;s obvious, but no Pokémon can normally learn them. This article NEEDS to be redone. &#039;nuff said. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 12:56, 14 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== waterfall ==&lt;br /&gt;
I see someone&#039;s cleaned it up but waterfall should be included but with an * coz ONLY goldeen and seaking learnt in Gen I coz it wasnt a TM/HM there could be more moves like this--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 23:47, 1 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I also noticed mimic is a signatre move for sudowoodo, however in ONLY generation II because in Generation I it was a TM, I&#039;m not sure about MIMIC--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 23:50, 1 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::What about {{m|featherDance}}?--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 06:15, 6 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fact ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could someone add that signature moves are recommended for the pokemon learning them. Also, you forgot about the legendaries. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;- &#039;&#039;unsigned comment from [[User:Xknight 511|Xknight 511]] ([[User talk:Xknight 511|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xknight 511|contribs]]){{ #if:  | &amp;amp;#32;{{{2}}} |}}&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:In some cases they aren&#039;t. Take for example Ho-Oh in Gen II and III. He has Higher Attack than Sp. Atk, but his Signature move focuses in Sp. Atk. So it depends on the trainer. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 07:01, 6 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sorted by generation? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How ab out instead of making it so pokemon has a note saying when the move isn&#039;t signature, we make a page or section on this page for each generation? [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 15:22, 6 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you mean have sections like &amp;quot;Signature moves in Generation I&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Signature moves in Generation II&amp;quot;? If so, I think that&#039;s a great idea. [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 15:39, 6 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think that&#039; s very good idea too. [[User:RikkiKitsune|Rikki Kitsune]] 19:28, 17 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;ve been working on this for the past month, using a Word document. But it hasn&#039;t been going so well. You see, some signature moves just came off the top of my head, but I&#039;m having trouble remembering whether or not there are any signature moves other than the ones in my document. But don&#039;t fear, I&#039;ll get it finished soon. --[[user:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF4500;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Baby G]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[user talk:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D1E231;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk to me]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B87333;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;see my edits]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:58, 17 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unprotect please ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Kenji-girl protected this article because she was losing in the edit war. I told her that I promise to stop edit warring, but she&#039;s completely ignoring me. Can someone please unprotect this article? [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 15:38, 6 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Platinum ==&lt;br /&gt;
Should i add Platinum signature moves, coz I added scyther with Vacuum Wave and somone took it off... Look at Serebii and it says it can learn it...--&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Wowy|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color=#E7CE6B&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Wowy&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color=#42528C&amp;quot;&amp;gt;XD&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Wowy|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color=#FFD600&amp;quot;&amp;gt;\⁄&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color=#FF5A00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;!!!&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;-talk&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;  07:08, 15 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, yeah Serebii knows lots of things, but he isn&#039;t very relliable at times... and you NEED to fix your signature!!! &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 22:48, 15 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, Scyther can learn Vacuum Wave via the move relearner in Pastoria, so it is indeed one of Scyther&#039;s moves.--[[User:RiverAura|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;#00ccff&amp;quot;&amp;gt;*River*&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[User_Talk:RiverAura|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;#00ffcc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;*Aura*&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Camouflage ==&lt;br /&gt;
Why Camouflage is here? It can be learned by two pokémon --[[User:CorsolaSplash|CorsolaSplash]] 18:32, 15 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:As long as it&#039;s learnable by a relative few Pokémon (out of 493, two is VERY few), it goes here. I don&#039;t know where we should put the threshold, however, but as long as less than 1% of all Pokémon learn a move (not counting their evolutions) it should go here. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 01:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I kinda think it should be limited to one evolution family, ESPECIALLY if two very unrelated Pokémon (like Scyther and Hitmonlee as mentioned with {{m|Vacuum Wave}} above) both know the move. If you think that&#039;s too extreme/harsh, maybe if two somewhat similar Pokémon both know the move (like if they have common design elements or something). ←{&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Berrymaster|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;purple&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Berr&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;yma&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ster&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]|[[User_talk:Berrymaster|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]|[[Special:Contributions/Berrymaster|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;silver&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Contrib&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;}→ 01:24, 16 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Moves only count as signature moves if only one Pokémon are one evolution family can learn them. Besides, Hitmonchan and Scyther aren&#039;t the only 2 Pokémon that can legitimatelly have Vacuum Wave. About 30 others can learn it from the {{game3|Platinum|Platinum|}} [[move tutor|tutor]]. --[[user:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF4500;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Baby G]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[user talk:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D1E231;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk to me]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B87333;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;see my edits]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:01, 17 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Well, that brings up a similar issue... moves that can be learned other than level-up by many, but level-only for a few. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:06, 17 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I used to think that level up was all that counted, but about a month ago, Kenji-girl said that other methods ({{pkmn|breeding}}, [[TM]]s, etc.) do count when it comes to signature moves. So Vacuum Wave has actually never been Hitmonchan&#039;s signature move, since several others could learn it by breeding before Platinum. --[[user:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF4500;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Baby G]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[user talk:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D1E231;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk to me]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B87333;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;see my edits]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:48, 17 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Transform? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why signature move of {{p|Ditto}} and {{p|Mew}} is the {{m|Transform}} (which is written), a {{m|Fly}} isn&#039;t a signature move of {{p|Salamence}} and {{p|Rayquaza}}. [[User:Era64|Era64]] 11:29, 19 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, for Ditto at least, Transform is its &#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039; move. Mew just has that &amp;quot;DNA of all Pokémon in it&amp;quot; deal that lets him transform.&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;- &#039;&#039;unsigned comment from [[User:Phred|Phred]] ([[User talk:Phred|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Phred|contribs]]){{ #if:  | &amp;amp;#32;{{{2}}} |}}&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::But it&#039;s not a signature move, since more than one Pokémon learns it by level, and Mew and Ditto aren&#039;t in an evolution family. --[[user:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Cho]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[user talk:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;col]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[special:contributions/chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ate]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 20:31, 20 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It&#039;s still a &#039;&#039;small group&#039;&#039; of Pokemon. So it&#039;s limited to who can learn it. Also once again I think this needs to be split into generations. [[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B7AD96;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESH&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User_talk:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B7AD96;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;IGIGAS&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 20:55, 20 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::But Kenji-girl said that signature moves are moves only learned by one Pokémon, or one evolution family. &amp;quot;Small groups&amp;quot; don&#039;t count unless they&#039;re in the same evolution family. Also, I&#039;ve been working on generation splitting for a while now, and I&#039;m almost done. --[[user:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Cho]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[user talk:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;col]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[special:contributions/chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ate]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 20:59, 20 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It does say at the beggining of the page that they &#039;&#039;can only be learned by a single Pokémon or a very small select group of Pokémon&#039;&#039;. So Mew and Transform should be on there. If it&#039;s like 3 Pokemon in different evolution families and it can be bred into others, then it isn&#039;t a signature move really. And thank you for splitting this into generations (when you&#039;re done!). [[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B7AD96;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESH&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User_talk:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B7AD96;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;IGIGAS&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 21:11, 20 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Well, okay, maybe Transform isn&#039;t Mew&#039;s signature move, but it&#039;s surely Ditto&#039;s. I mean, it&#039;s the ONLY thing it can do. --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 23:50, 3 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Lucario==&lt;br /&gt;
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Aura Sphere----[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 17:47, 3 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No. Several others can use it as well. --[[User:Martonimos|((&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#008000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Marton&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Martonimos|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#50C878&amp;quot;&amp;gt;imos&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;))]] 23:53, 3 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::ya but some Pokémon can use other signature moves and pretty much every Lucario in the anime knows it,and I&#039;m not sure why Togekiss learns it all other Pokémon that learn it because their legendary I mean Chimchar gets Blaze Kick by breeding but it&#039;s still Blazikens move------[[user:Ultamatecharizard|AMERICAN ELECTION TODAY!]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Sigh....This is because {{p|Blaziken}} was the only one that could learn it until Gen IV... [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D5AA00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C0C0C0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 19:13, 4 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: Lucario is no more Legendary than Togekiss. Not even more rare. --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 07:26, 6 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Stop Removing Relicanth, Cranidos, Rampardos, and Mothim ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I quote, from the top of the page: &amp;quot;Signature moves are moves that can only be learned by a single Pokémon &#039;&#039;&#039;or a very small select group of Pokémon by level-up&#039;&#039;&#039; (with the exception of Pikachu&#039;s Volt Tackle), usually in the same evolutionary line.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
So stop removing it, ok? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 20:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t understand the idea behind &amp;quot;signature moves&amp;quot; in many evolutionary lines. Okay then, add there every other move that is in very few movepools. You, go then add Hoppip&#039;s Splash in Gen II (there was IIRC only Hoppip and Magikarp back then), Rayquaza&#039;s Extremespeed in Gen III and &#039;&#039;&#039;every friggin other move that is in 2 or 3 movepools&#039;&#039;&#039;, okay? Happy hunting, though it won&#039;t change my mind about the fact that the introduction there is &#039;&#039;&#039;wrong&#039;&#039;&#039;. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3fff00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;UltimateSephiroth&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;about me&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chat&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:15, 16 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Maybe they should be there; I&#039;m personally too lazy to hunt them, and would rather either A) Keep it like it is, or B) get the intro changed, which is what you should do if you think its wrong. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 20:18, 16 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;d do the B) if I could, but I can&#039;t be sure which way (one family or few families) is more common among players and therefore my edit would be opinionated. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3fff00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;UltimateSephiroth&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;about me&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chat&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:22, 16 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I don&#039;t know where the small group of Pokémon came from. That wasn&#039;t my idea of a signature move when I created this page. Maybe if the Pokémon were physically alike it would be okay. But Relicanth, Cranidos, and Mothim have nothing in common. Two different families should be the max if at all. Definitely not three. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 22:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It is two families: Relicanth and Cranidos for Head something or other; Mothim&#039;s being removed for a different move, Camoflouge or however its spelled. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 22:15, 16 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Either way, either Relicanth needs to be added because it also knows Head Smash (and is more adept at using it due to Rock Head) or Cranidos/Ramparados need to be removed.--[[User:JacobCrystal|JacobCrystal]] 16:15, 4 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==This page is in need of SERIOUS clean-up.==&lt;br /&gt;
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Some moves are counted as signature when they&#039;re limited to one Pokémon. Some are counted when they&#039;re limited to two Pokémon. Some three Pokémon. Where&#039;s the limit? I think two families should be the most.(Branched families are fine.) I&#039;d prefer only one family, but I&#039;ll accept anything, just agree on something.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some moves are counted as &amp;quot;signature&amp;quot; if they&#039;re limited to one(or a few) Pokémon NATURALLY...other moves are counted if they&#039;re limited OVERALL. I think that TMs/HMs/tutors/&amp;quot;bonus&amp;quot; moves should not matter, Waterfall is still Goldeen and Seaking&#039;s signature move. I&#039;d accept the other way too, but it needs to be CONSISTENT.&lt;br /&gt;
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Not to mention a few of the asterisks are wrong...and some without asterisks could use some. Or it could be split to generations, but I think asterisks work just fine.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Pikachu that knows Volt Tackle doesn&#039;t need to be in the one-off section. Yes, it&#039;s only Pichu&#039;s signature move...but Pikachus can normally learn it by evolving from Pichu! Pikachu shouldn&#039;t be in the table, that is correct, but it doesn&#039;t need to be in the one-off either. That should be for examples that COULD NOT happen otherwise, like the Dratini with ExtremeSpeed.[[User:Flint A|Flint A]] 20:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:My opinion is that if a move can be learned by any or all of the Pokémon of &#039;&#039;&#039;one&#039;&#039;&#039; family naturally or by TM, it is a signature move. If a move is shared with an other family or it is a TM that can be used or a move tutor move that can be taught on more than the family in question, it is not a signature move. Event Pokémon are obviously excluded. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3fff00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;UltimateSephiroth&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;about me&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chat&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:48, 20 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::That sounds fine to me, a more &amp;quot;exclusive&amp;quot; definition of signature move. Although if something was a signature move at one point, I&#039;d expect it there with an asterisk. The most important thing is that a definition is made. &amp;quot;More is lost by indecision than by wrong decision.&amp;quot;[[User:Flint A|Flint A]] 11:03, 21 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==GrassWhistle==&lt;br /&gt;
In GenerationIII, Roselia was the only one who could learn GrassWhistle by leveling up(to lv 29). There are many other pokemon that can learn it now in Generation IV, but it used to be a move unique only to Roselia(by level up). --[[User:PKFL 531|PKFL 531]] 01:38, 30 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Removing moves==&lt;br /&gt;
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Before I edit the actual page, I want to see if everyone agrees to this. &lt;br /&gt;
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I was thinking of removing the following moves since they&#039;re &amp;quot;Signature&amp;quot; titles are questionable:&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Petal Dance}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Crush Claw}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Splash}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Super Fang}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Beat Up}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Pain Split}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|FeatherDance}} &lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|ExtremeSpeed}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Weather Ball}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Megahorn}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Waterfall}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes yes, I know that&#039;s quite a lot of moves to pick out. But let&#039;s be honest, These moves are a little too common to be &amp;quot;Signature&amp;quot; thanks to other Pokémon showing up or Pokémon learning said moves via Breeding, Level up, Move tutor, TM/HM etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you don&#039;t agree with this, I&#039;ll ignore this. Or if you want only a specific move or two gone, I&#039;ll only get rid of those instead.&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;- &#039;&#039;unsigned comment from {{u|Ninterror}} ([[User talk:Ninterror|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ninterror|contribs]]) &#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Personally, I think it might be better to either do away with this article, or sort in into 4 articles, one for each generaton [[User:RB Golbat|RB Golbat]] 20:37, 30 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree with the idea of splitting them up as these moves were all once signature moves. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:53, 31 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Why make a whole other article? It says in the asterisk that it was &amp;quot;Prior to Generation X&amp;quot;. Just leave it as it is. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 02:46, 31 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Many of those moves are already noted as being signature moves prior to a Generation, as the person above said. However, Beat Up, Crush Claw, Pain Split, Feather Dance, Assist and Extrasensory, are different. They&#039;re signature moves in that only a select few Pokémon learn &#039;&#039;by level up&#039;&#039;, but can be taught in other ways. In the &amp;quot;Other signature move examples&amp;quot; section, such things are noted, where a move is learned by more than one Pokémon but only by one by level up. I say we move the mentioned moves to a whole new section for &amp;quot;Level Up Signature Moves&amp;quot;, where we list the signature moves if we go by moves learned through level and not by tutor or TM or breeding. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 05:32, 31 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Blast Burn, Frenzy Plant and Hydro Cannon ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I would just like to say that I have finally added the elemental hyper beams to the bottom of the page. Feel free to delete it if you like, but I do think that this edit would help the bulbapedia community.  ----&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GEN&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;1&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[User:Example|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;KING&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;([[User talk:&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]])&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 06:12, 14 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I would disagree here.  The signature moves of Charizard, Venusaur, and Blastoise have always been and will always be Flamethrower, SolarBeam, and Hydro Pump, respectively. SSBB even confirms that Charizard&#039;s signature move is Flamethrower (not Blast Burn). [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 18:13, 19 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::In most cases I would agree with you, but by the definition f signature move on Bulbapedia, that is extremely inacurate. Though true in a certain sense, Blastoise is not the only pokémon to learn Hydro Pump, and same goes for the rest. Also, no offense, but Super Smash Bros. Trophies are not exactly the most reliable source for canon information :p  --[[User:Gen1king|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;GEN&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]1[[User talk:Gen1king|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;KING&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 06:50, 28 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Former Signature moves! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We should have a section for Pokémon who&#039;s moves used to be signature moves, instead of keeping them with the other Pokémon. --Kimori Geckarbor Hinoarashi 13:48, 12 December 2009 (UTC) [[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|User talk:Kimori-Hinoarashi]] &amp;quot;I reject your reality, and substitute my own.&amp;quot; - Adam Savage, after being proven wrong.--&#039;&#039;Mythbusters&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Overhaul ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Alright, I went for it and changed the main body to only refer to Generation IV signature moves. The list of former signature moves near the bottom might be better as some sort of table, but I&#039;m not good at making tables and it wouldn&#039;t be like just copying the first table, as we&#039;d need &amp;quot;unsignature&amp;quot; dates. Also, that list should not be considered comprehensive; it&#039;s just the ones that were there already plus the ones from the old list. There might be some missing.&lt;br /&gt;
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The only controversial change I think is that I specifically limited signature moves to one evolutionary family only, but I seem to see quite a bit of support for that on the talk page and I feel it&#039;s the only sensible decision myself.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Yoshi348|Yoshi348]] 20:04, 8 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:just because you &amp;quot;see the support&amp;quot; doesnt mean you just do it, you dont have that power. it has to be definitively discussed for sure. i have undone your edits, but barring a proper definitive discussion, it can be re-added. i want to see what people think in an uncluttered manor. i personally dont see a huge problem in your way, but i also think we can find a better, cleaner layout than yours. -- &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAG&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#696969;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 20:16, 8 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Phantom asterisk ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Pokemon that had their signature moves learned by other Pokemon with the coming of a new generation were marked with an asterisk. There wasn&#039;t a note at the bottom saying what the asterisk was for, but rather one of those things you highlight (dunno what that&#039;s called). We should at least have a note in addition to it. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 00:00, 10 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Arcanine&#039;s ExtremeSpeed. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Shouldn&#039;t it say &amp;quot;Prior to Generation II&amp;quot;? It currently says &amp;quot;Prior to generation III&amp;quot;. --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 16:10, 4 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No, it was Arcanine&#039;s sig move prior to gen II, that is, before gen II. Extremespeed didn&#039;t exist prior to gen II {{unsigned|Malake256}}&lt;br /&gt;
:: Right. I forgot the distinction between Crystal and Gen. II. It was unique to Arcanine &amp;quot;Prior to Crystal&amp;quot;. --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 07:19, 6 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Metronome==&lt;br /&gt;
Signature moves can be moved by any pokemon knowing [[Metronome]]. My [[Togepi]] used metronome, and used [[Doom Desire]]! [[User:Panther2598|Panther2598]]&lt;br /&gt;
thats kind of obvious i mean metronome uses a random move from every move existing in a generation and they never said that they couldn&#039;t be used they just said that they can&#039;t be learned [[User:Juarmo|Juarmo]] 05:06, 11 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Oath of Fire, Water and Grass ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do you think we should add that?-[[User talk:444Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:brown&amp;quot;&amp;gt;444&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:444Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Z&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Zekrom|ekrom]] 04:23, 03 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:We should wait until the games are released. For all we know, they could be used by the other starters similar to the elemental Hyper Beams. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 07:18, 3 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Blast Burn, Frenzy Plant, and Hydro Cannon again ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In Generation III, since Charizard, Venusaur, and Blastoise are the only ones who could learn those techniques, they are considered signature moves in that sense yes? So shouldn&#039;t they be added to the list and mentioned on the respective moves articles?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 05:32, 11 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ll take it. [[Move tutor]]?--[[User talk:444Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:brown&amp;quot;&amp;gt;444&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:444Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Z&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ekrom&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 10:15, 4 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::They were only the only ones to learn those moves until [[Pokemon XD]] came out, which is still third-gen. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 10:23, 4 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Hmm... Prior to XD? Hahaha...--[[User talk:444Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:brown&amp;quot;&amp;gt;444&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:444Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Z&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ekrom&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 07:43, 5 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I think it&#039;s better not to take XD in consideration, because that game has distributed multiple signature moves, like Psycho Boost or Extrasensory. So I would say prior to generation IV--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 10:40, 18 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;prior to gen ...&amp;quot; signature moves ==&lt;br /&gt;
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If, according to te article, Signature moves are by definition only learned by either a single Pokémon or a small group of Pokémon, then a lot of the moves listed that say they were signature moves prior to a certain generation were still signature moves, (in cases such as extemespeed, for at least until the generation after) as the definition in no way implies that the pokémon that can learn it have to be related by evolution it just states either that the move can be learned only as a level up move and even then, only by a small number of Pokémon or that the move can only be learned by level up by a small number of pokémon (in which case almost all, if not all are still signature moves). because even though the way the definition is phrased it can be rephrased either way it most certainly can&#039;t be rephrased both ways because they are different from meanings from eachother but are synonyms to different definitions of the phrase that defines signature moves. [[User:Juarmo|Juarmo]] 05:07, 11 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ultimate Starter Type Moves==&lt;br /&gt;
techinically, the elemental hyper beams would be no less signature moves of the gen 1 starter evolutions in gen 3 than deoxys and its psycho boost (as purified shadow Lugia knew it). In fact, probably less of one as you catch the Lugia but you recieve the XD Jhoto starters from an event (albeit an in game one but still) also if Oddish and Glooms signature that ceased to be a signature by Gen 2 is on the list shouldn&#039;t arcanine and his extremespeed be on the list too. if i remember correctly dragon&#039;s den dratini didn&#039;t count towards extremespeed not still being arcanine&#039;s signature move in gen 2 so why should the XD Jhoto starters they&#039;re both in game events. [[User:Juarmo|Juarmo]] 23:28, 11 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Shadow Signature Moves ==&lt;br /&gt;
I think it should be noted that {{m|Shadow Bolt}}, {{m|Shadow Chill}}, {{m|Shadow Fire}} and {{m|Shadow Blast}} are {{p|Zapdos}}, {{p|Articuno}}, {{p|Moltres}} and [[Shadow Lugia]] Signature Moves in Pokémon XD. --[[User:Crikko|&#039;&#039;&#039;★&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6699FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Cri&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ққ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6699FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ѳ~&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;*&#039;&#039;&#039;]] 16:52, 13 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Clamp was another one of the Shellder line&#039;s signature moves... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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...Until Gen III that is. Could somebody add this? - [[User:050294|050294]] 01:21, 18 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Another idea ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I had an idea for a new column. I would like to mention what kind of signature move they are. &lt;br /&gt;
*Exclusive means: Only available to the poke himself, or the evolutionary line of that poke.&lt;br /&gt;
*Limited means: A few other pokes can learn it as well by leveling up or by breeding.&lt;br /&gt;
*LU exclusive means: The move is exclusive to a certain poke line by leveling up, but several other pokes can learn it by breading or tutoring.&lt;br /&gt;
*Common means: The move is now available to a plenty of pokes. Only mentioned if the move used to be exclusive.&lt;br /&gt;
*N/A means: it didn&#039;t exist that gen.&lt;br /&gt;
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{| class=&amp;quot;bluetable c sortable&amp;quot; border=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot; cellpadding=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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! [[List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number|#]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! Name&lt;br /&gt;
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! Gen I&lt;br /&gt;
! Gen II&lt;br /&gt;
! Gen III&lt;br /&gt;
! Gen IV&lt;br /&gt;
! Gen V&lt;br /&gt;
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| 015&lt;br /&gt;
| {{MSP|015|Beedrill}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{P|Beedrill}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{M|Twineedle}} &lt;br /&gt;
| Exclusive &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; Lv. 20&lt;br /&gt;
| Exclusive &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; lv. 20&lt;br /&gt;
| Exclusive &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; lv. 20&lt;br /&gt;
| Exclusive &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; lv. 16&lt;br /&gt;
| Limited &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; lv. 16&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 10:40, 18 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Limited would not be implemented; signature move means it is limited to an individual or family, so those are former signature moves. Level up exclusive is possible, but I don&#039;t think it should be implemented. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 11:24, 18 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Levels ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s not clear from which game the levels are. I also don&#039;t see the point of noting the levels.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 10:41, 25 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Victini ==&lt;br /&gt;
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for the 14th Movie it was said that an event Victini would be given out have the move V-Generate and Ball of Fire, as V-Generate is currently a move only an event Victini can know, should it be put in the &#039;one-off signature moves&#039; section? [[User:Azure42|Azure42]] 15:38, 31 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== My definition of &#039;Signature Move&#039; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I say the definition should be &amp;quot;A move that a Pokémon is best known for.&amp;quot; As a result, this means that a move that is common can be the signature move of another Pokémon (for example, Rollout can be learned by several different kinds of Pokémon, but Geodude&#039;s evolutionary family may have it as their signature move, because Graveler is said to use it often down mountains in Firered&#039;s description of it). Another example is Psycho Cut - Gallade would most likely have the attack as its signature move had this description of signature move been used. --[[User:Psyblade|Psyblade]] 18:43, 27 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think it&#039;s a very good point, however, Pokédex entries sometimes state misleading facts, such as Dusclops learning {{m|Hypnosis}}, which it actually can&#039;t. So, although a good definition of &amp;quot;signature move&amp;quot;, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s good enough to point Pokédex entries in the article. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 23:59, 27 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia?==&lt;br /&gt;
The trivia says, that Vespiquen is the only Pokémon with 3 signature moves, while the same is true for Kyurem (as the table says). Shouldn&#039;t it be edited? --[[User:KingisNitro|KingisNitro]] 08:46, 7 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, because Kyurem can&#039;t actually learn Ice Burn or Freeze Shock. They are speculated to be its signature moves. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 08:58, 7 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Cubone and Marowak==&lt;br /&gt;
Both of these are only listed under Former Signature Moves, however both have two current signature moves. Bone Rush, out. Bone Club and Bonemerang, good. So why aren&#039;t Cubone and Marowak under the current signature moves? [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 01:10, 13 July 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Current definition is SERIOUSLY flawed! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The current definition of signature move here is &#039;&#039;&#039;seriously&#039;&#039;&#039; flawed.  The definition should be the move the Pokémon is most known for, not any random move that is exclusive to it.  While at times moves that a Pokémon is most known for may also be exclusive to it (such as Smeargle&#039;s Sketch), that is not always the case.  For example, even though Charizard was the only Pokémon able to learn Blast Burn prior to XD, Charizard is never shown using it in any Pokémon media; usually Charizard is shown using Flamethrower, and in the anime, Seismic Toss.  Furthermore, Charizard is a Gen I Pokémon, and it is absurd to say that a Gen III move is its signature move, considering Charizard predates Gen III.&lt;br /&gt;
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I really think the definition should be corrected here. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 00:05, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t think it&#039;s flawed at all. A signature move exclusive to that Pokémon. Meaning that the move can only be learned by that Pokémon. While Rollout is well know for a Miltank for example that doesn&#039;t make it a signature move. Sketch is a signature move because only one Pokémon can learn it and that is Smergle. This was discussed before. [[User:Pokemaster97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;--Pokemaster&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;97&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:09, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Random move? How is it a random move when it&#039;s &#039;&#039;&#039;a move that can only be learned by a single Pokémon or its family&#039;&#039;&#039;? Just because a certain move is showed off more by a certain Pokémon does not mean it&#039;s its signature. Signature refers to a Pokémon&#039;s exclusive move which means it can only be learned by a certain Pokémon or at a certain time.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Your definition seems to be judged by what you have seen in the anime which is biased to all other media. All things should relate to the game which are used universally. Might as well say BubbleBeam is Piplup&#039;s signature move and Thunderbolt is Pikachu&#039;s. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:18, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::What about Ditto&#039;s Transform, which is obviously Ditto&#039;s signature move because it is Ditto&#039;s ONLY move, despite the fact that Mew can learn Transform as well?  The fact is, Charizard is never shown using Blast Burn in the anime or any other Pokémon media besides the main games.  Also, consider that Blast Burn is a tutored move, not a level-up move. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 00:46, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Plus, SSB confirms Flamethrower as Charizard&#039;s signature move. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 00:54, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Leveling up has nothing to do with it. Volt Tackle is an egg move that is bred on to Pichu. There&#039;s also Meloetta who can only learn its signature move through tutoring. And again, the amount of times the move is shown in the anime has nothing to do with it. In the defense of Transform, Mew has the capability of learning every move through the move tutor in XD from Generation III and below. Though I&#039;ll give you that Mew can learn that one by level up. Not to mention that it&#039;s Ditto&#039;s only move. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 01:03, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Also, SSB is not a true Pokémon game to be taking sources from... It&#039;s Charizard signature move in that game, not in the Pokémon games. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 01:03, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::So, could you tell me what was Charizard&#039;s signature move in Gens I and II? The definition of the word &amp;quot;signature&amp;quot; does not mean &amp;quot;exclusive&amp;quot;, it means what the Pokémon is most notable for. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 06:27, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Another example: Take a look at Vaporeon and Jolteon.  Obviously their signature moves are Acid Armor and Pin Missile, respectively, as confirmed by their Pokédex entries.  However, even in Gen I, Grimer and Muk were able to learn Acid Armor as well, and Beedrill was able to learn Pin Missile. If those aren&#039;t Vaporeon&#039;s and Jolteon&#039;s signature moves, I don&#039;t know what else can be. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 06:31, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::See... the thing is Flamethrower can be other Pokémon&#039;s most known move. Every single Fire-type can learn it in some way. It&#039;s not so signature when so many other Pokémon can use it too. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::::None of Vaporeon&#039;s and Jolteon&#039;s Pokédex entries say that Acid Armor and Pin Missile are their signature moves. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 06:47, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::While they don&#039;t mention the moves by name, they mention that Vaporeon can melt into water, and that Jolteon can raise its fur to pierce foes. That implies Acid Armor and Pin Missile, respectively. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 15:20, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
I think you&#039;re not understanding here. Not all Pokémon have signature moves. A signature move is a move only that Pokémon or it&#039;s family can learn. Examples: Meowth {{m|Pay Day}} Chansey and Blissy {{m|Softboiled}}, The Porygon family {{m|Conversion}} and {{m|Conversion 2}}. This is what a signature move is. Your argument is incorrect. [[User:Pokemaster97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;--Pokemaster&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;97&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 15:26, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, that is your own interpretation of a signature move, which is clearly defective for the reasons I gave above. Unless we find an official source confirming your interpretation is correct, it is nothing but a fan implication. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 18:16, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Your last comment applies equally to your own definition. I suggest you take a step back and calm down. Also, [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/signature?rdfrom=Signature#Adjective signature, used as an adjective] implies distinctiveness, not commonness. Thus, the current definition is correct to the meaning of the word, so you will need very strong official evidence in order for it to change. &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:17, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I don&#039;t feel like the definition is flawed, but maybe an allowance for Ditto would be nice. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 15:52, 10 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== {{p|Clefairy}} and {{m|Meteor Mash}} ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t understand this. In the [[Signature move#Other signature move examples|Other signature move examples]] section, it says: &amp;quot;Although {{p|Clefairy}} can learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Meteor Mash}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up in any Generation III game, the only Pokémon that were able to learn it legally before release of {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}} were {{p|Metang}} and its evolved form, {{p|Metagross}}.&amp;quot; However, the {{p|Metang}}, {{m|Meteor Mash}}, and {{p|Clefairy}} articles don&#039;t make any mention of this, and the sentence itself doesn&#039;t make any sense. --[[User:Enervation|Enervation]] 23:43, 10 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s saying that since you couldn&#039;t get Clefairy until FRLG came out, despite that Clefairy can learn Meteor Mash in RS, Clefairy couldn&#039;t because there weren&#039;t any Clefairy in RS. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 00:38, 11 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New design ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m REALLY liking the new template, but I think it could use a little more organization. Like, either we organize them by number (the only ones not by number are the ones grouped with their cross-generational evolutions), or by the generation in which they gained their signature move (then by number). I&#039;m not sure...what does everyone think? &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:LimeGreenCharizard|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;LimeGreen&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;[[User talk:LimeGreenCharizard|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF8C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Charizard&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Special:Contributions/LimeGreenCharizard|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00BFFF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;♂&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 16:35, 12 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree it should be done by Ndex number. It&#039;s too jumbled and a little confusing as it is. If someone wanted to look for Pikachu, they have to go down to Pichu, and that&#039;s just sloppy. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;★&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jo The Marten|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Jo the Marten&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Flygon (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;★&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ಠ_ಠ&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Cilan (anime)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#90C870;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;♥&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 16:43, 12 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah I agree with what was said above. It is kind of confusing. Ndex would be a little more organized. [[User:Pokemaster97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;--Pokemaster&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;97&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 16:45, 12 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::How about making the columns sortable? Also the Pikachu line&#039;s placement was something I forgot to fix, so I&#039;ll move them to 025. [[User:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#d0000d&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;chiller&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pikiwyn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;]] 16:57, 12 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Sortable sounds fine to me. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;★&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jo The Marten|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Jo the Marten&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Flygon (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;★&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ಠ_ಠ&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Cilan (anime)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#90C870;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;♥&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 17:01, 12 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== V-create still a signature move? ==&lt;br /&gt;
Now that {{p|Rayquaza}} knows {{m|V-create}} via event (the same way that Victini learns it), is V-create still Victini&#039;s signature move, is it both Victini&#039;s and Rayquaza&#039;s, or is it not a signature move at all? Personally, I&#039;d remove it from the list for now, since now it&#039;s a one-off move for both Victini &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; Rayquaza. --[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:35, 20 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You make a lot of sense, and I&#039;d certainly wait for more people to weigh in.  However, I think that the name of V-Create certainly points it to it being a signature move of Victini, since many things about Victini are closely associated with the letter &#039;&#039;V&#039;&#039;.  There isn&#039;t really a set standard to which we can hold a &amp;quot;signature move,&amp;quot; so I think claiming its status as &amp;quot;debatable&amp;quot; is appropriate.  --[[User:Politoed666|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00B7EB&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;P&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008080&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;o&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Politoed666|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0095B6&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;L&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00CCCC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;i&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 20:27, 20 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::There&#039;s a bunch a moves on the list that are like that. Why change it now? Personally, I don&#039;t think we should change the status of a signature move just because of an event. They do that all the time. Like the Victini from the movie with Zekrom and Reshiram&#039;s moves and the Lugia from XD with Deoxys&#039;s move. Rayquaza cannot normally get that move and unless it is normal, then we shouldn&#039;t worry about it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:22, 21 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Just realized V-create is the move Victini only knows by event as well. Just still, to me it was obviously made for it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:24, 21 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Agreed - V-create was made for Victini (and I think that I made that clear on the page), but neither Victini nor Rayquaza can learn it through normal gameplay (both of them learn it via event). As for it being a signature move because it was made for Victini, I think {{m|Megahorn}} presents a similar case (though not to the same degree). It was made for {{p|Heracross}} in Generation II (why else would a generic horn attack be Bug-type?) until they made all sorts of other Pokémon, both old and new, able to learn it in future generations. Now, V-create is much more &amp;quot;characteristic&amp;quot; of Victini and probably won&#039;t become a widespread move, but having aesthetics and themes associated with a certain Pokémon doesn&#039;t seem like a criterion for being a signature move at the moment according to the page&#039;s description (we can always change it though). [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 04:15, 21 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: I personally don&#039;t feel it applies to what the meaning of signature move is as it says it can be learned by level up &#039;&#039;&#039;or other means&#039;&#039;&#039;. Think of it this way. If Relic Song is given by event to another Pokémon, say Cresselia, does that mean it&#039;s not Meloetta&#039;s signature move anymore because it doesn&#039;t learn it by level up even though that&#039;s what changes its form? Some common sense should be used in these instead of following the definition so strictly. If the Pokémon itself has an obvious connection to the move we should take that into consideration. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:35, 24 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Which is why I had to revert Darthrai and MisterE13--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 00:37, 24 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Actually, it&#039;s not as simple as that. The thing is, Meloetta can learn Relic Song via tutor; if the same tutor could be used to teach it to Cresselia, I wouldn&#039;t personally consider it Meloetta&#039;s signature move anymore (since they can both obtain the move on &#039;&#039;equally&#039;&#039; favorable terms). However, if Cresselia got the move via event, I&#039;d still personally consider it Meloetta&#039;s signature move, since Meloetta obtains it on &#039;&#039;more&#039;&#039; favorable terms. Right now, Victini and Rayquaza both know V-create on &#039;&#039;equally&#039;&#039; favorable terms (a one-off move for both Pokémon); however, you&#039;re right that we should consider if the Pokémon has an obvious connection to the move, so we should make that clear. (In Relic Song&#039;s case, it helps that, unlike V-create, it doesn&#039;t scream &amp;quot;THIS MOVE BELONGS TO MELOETTA&amp;quot;.) [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:05, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You&#039;re still not making any sense.  Relic Song is Meloetta&#039;s, and V-create is Victini&#039;s.  Roar of Time and Spacial Rend are Dialga and Palkia&#039;s respectively despite movie 10 Dialga and movie 12 Arceus.  Please stop dragging this--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 19:08, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::And Dialga and Palkia know Roar of Time and Spacial Rend via level-up, whereas Darkrai and Arceus only know it via event. It&#039;s not the same. Still, the current definition and status is good, I just think it&#039;s worth noting that Rayquaza and Victini both get V-create through similar methods despite it being Victini&#039;s signature move. I don&#039;t think this has ever happened before, especially since event-exclusive moves only debuted this generation.[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:19, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It is very much the same. Darkrai and Arceus learn it by equal means... Please stop. V-Create is Victini&#039;s signature move and happens to lend it to Rayquaza ONCE. Doesn&#039;t mean V-Create isn&#039;t Victini&#039;s signature movI&#039;d also like to point out&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Also, some of these moves can be passed down via breeding to other Pokémon &#039;&#039;&#039;or are known by certain event Pokémon&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;. Case closed. --[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 19:21, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Sure, but if we go a long time without this kind of thing happening again (&#039;&#039;event-exclusive&#039;&#039; signature moves being known by both the Pokémon they&#039;re intended for and another Pokémon &#039;&#039;on equal terms&#039;&#039;), maybe the issue can be revisited.[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:31, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::It doesn&#039;t have to be revisited. Leave it alone. Admins have already spoken on the matter and say to leave it alone--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 19:33, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: I meant like several years or when Gen VI comes around with more event-exclusive moves. When I said &amp;quot;a long time&amp;quot;, I meant &amp;quot;a long time&amp;quot; and that I don&#039;t think it&#039;s worth starting any further arguments at this point in Pokémon event history (so I&#039;m leaving it alone) Oh well, in any case it&#039;s just one minor piece of stating the obvious about one event, I shouldn&#039;t have made a big deal about it.--[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:34, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::By the definition of signature move, V-create is not Victini&#039;s signature move. However, it is a move that is associated with Victini. So based on Victini&#039;s associations with the move, you could say that it is its &amp;quot;signature move&amp;quot;, but that is not the definition of signature move. To keep the definition firm, we cannot consider it to be Victini&#039;s signature move unless it learns it via a method other than event, like how we didn&#039;t consider it Victini&#039;s signature move until it was distributed with it. So what should happen is this; V-create should not be listed as a signature move of Victini, but it should most certainly be listed under &amp;quot;Other signature move examples&amp;quot;. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 14:54, 30 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Can I suggest that, perhaps, V-Create isn&#039;t a Signature Move, so much as an Event Move? It&#039;s a move that cannot be known by any pokemon except perhaps via an Event, at least at a certain point. Another example would be Volt Tackle, which, until the release of Pokemon Emerald, couldn&#039;t be learned by any pokemon, or Kinesis, which couldn&#039;t be learned by any pokemon until Pokemon Yellow. Note that an &amp;quot;Event Move&amp;quot; wouldn&#039;t necessarily have been released via Event, it&#039;s just that, without an event, it would be unavailable up to a certain time (this could include moves only found as egg moves up to a certain point, if any exist). And on a side note, if a pokemon uses Metronome, and then Smeargle Sketches it, will it learn Metronome, or the resulting move? I ask because, if Smeargle sketches the metronomed move, then it would be possible for it to sketch Volt Tackle in RS/FRLG, or V-Create in DP. [[User:Aielyn|Aielyn]] 15:19, 1 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Another example of an Event move is a little more literal than the others - Snarl. At this time, it is only available through obtaining an Event Zoroark, and then breeding it to other pokemon from there. However, once another event, the Lock Capsule, is made available, it will be available as a TM... but still, it&#039;s an Event Move, since you need an event to access it in either case. [[User:Aielyn|Aielyn]] 06:56, 2 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Those are more &amp;quot;delayed release moves&amp;quot; than &amp;quot;event&amp;quot; moves. And I don&#039;t think it is really that relevant (by your definition, {{m|Kinesis}} is both a signature move and an &amp;quot;event move&amp;quot;). And to answer your question, Smeargle will Sketch Metronome. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 12:48, 2 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Isn&#039;t &amp;quot;delayed release&amp;quot; just another word for &amp;quot;event&amp;quot;, in this context? After all, you can catch Mew in Emerald, but you can&#039;t do so until a delayed release event. When Ruby/Sapphire were released, one couldn&#039;t legitimately get Volt Tackle. Not knowing how they&#039;d give you access to the move, wouldn&#039;t it be reasonable to consider it an event-exclusive move? That the &amp;quot;event&amp;quot; ended up being &amp;quot;the release of Emerald&amp;quot; is irrelevant to this point. And yes, Kinesis would be both an event move and a signature move - nothing wrong with that. It was an event move in Red/Blue, and then a signature move after that. Volt Tackle was an event move in RS/FRLG, and a signature move after that. V-Create is currently an event move. It may happen that, with the &amp;quot;third version&amp;quot; release, Victini will be able to learn V-Create by move tutor or level up, in which case it would be a signature move. Until the move can be &amp;quot;learned&amp;quot;, it really can&#039;t be called a signature move. It is &#039;&#039;speculated&#039;&#039; that the move was made for Victini, but it&#039;s only speculation, it hasn&#039;t been confirmed. It&#039;s entirely possible that, come the next pokemon game, it will be Rayquaza that learns it naturally, and not Victini... would that make it a Rayquaza signature move? [[User:Aielyn|Aielyn]] 04:37, 3 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The reason I used &amp;quot;delayed release&amp;quot; over &amp;quot;event&amp;quot; is because event specifically refers to things only available via event distributions, which is not true of things like Kinesis and Volt Tackle. It is unreasonable to assume a move is an event move if it has not been released yet—those are &amp;quot;unreleased moves&amp;quot; ({{m|Sacred Sword}} and {{m|Relic Song}} of course are exceptions due to being triggered by events, and {{m|Snarl}} was as well before it was available due to the event TM). However, I&#039;m not really sure how this &amp;quot;event move&amp;quot; argument is relevant here anyway. And Mew in Emerald is still event-exclusive. However, I agree with you that it is not currently a signature move, and that it may become one again in the next game. Also, I highly doubt Rayquaza will learn it outside of events if Victini doesn&#039;t—however, it is possible that if there is a move tutor, they would both be able to learn it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 10:03, 3 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::The relevance is that it gives an argument towards &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; including V-Create on this page. Indeed, I&#039;d argue that, even prior to the event Rayquaza, it was not a Signature Move, because the move was only available through an event, and thus couldn&#039;t be reliably associated with Victini, even if Victini was the only one that had gotten it. Let me give you a hypothetical analogy. Suppose that, during Gen III, an event occurred for FRLG, where you got a Voltorb that knows Volt Tackle. Would that make Volt Tackle a Voltorb signature move? I mean, it has &amp;quot;Volt&amp;quot; in it, and only Voltorb would have it. I&#039;d argue that, until the move is part of a pokemon&#039;s available moveset without an event, it cannot be a signature move. [[User:Aielyn|Aielyn]] 11:09, 3 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::In your hypothetical situation, I would argue that Volt Tackle would be Voltorb&#039;s signature move until another Pokémon could learn the move, with events always being ignored if there is another way for a Pokémon to learn it. However, since we agree about the way the page should be now and are merely debating hypotheticals, I don&#039;t think we need to continue this discussion unless someone argues for the inclusion of V-create. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 11:21, 3 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m sorry fellas but V-create actually is Victini&#039;s signature move!! Just not in Japan, because in that country Rayquaza can learn it. But this still means its Victini&#039;s signature move in the rest of the whole world!!! Just add V-create with a little star explaining its not a signature move anymore in Japan and we&#039;re done. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 14:28, 12 June 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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...but your definition of &amp;quot;signature move&amp;quot; is seriously flawed. Any definition of the term that doesn&#039;t allow Transform and Moonlight to be categorized as Ditto and Umbreon&#039;s respective signature moves is just wrong. So what if there were few other Pokémon who learned it in the generation it was introduced on? We&#039;re too worried about following rules and guidelines to the point that we&#039;re sacrificing common sense. Everyone considers Transform to Ditto&#039;s signature move despite Mew (who is only a event Pokémon and thus didn&#039;t even exist for the average player back in the Gen I days) learning it, too. And considering that Espeon&#039;s signature move is Morning Sun, it&#039;s obvious that the developers intended Moonlight to be considered the signature move of his counterpart, Umbreon. - [[User:Ericss|Ericss]] 17:53, 3 March 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I can see Ditto being an exception. But Umbereon and Moonlight? I never once thought of it being a signature move for Umbreon. And they only reason we consider it a signature for Espeon in Gen II is because it was the only Pokémon that could learn it.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Anyway, please look a few sections up to see the definition of &amp;quot;signature&amp;quot;. It means &#039;&#039;distinctive&#039;&#039;. It&#039;s not distinctive when other Pokémon can learn it too. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 05:44, 4 March 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Wouldn&#039;t that make Ditto a Signature Pokemon for Transform? [[User:Aielyn|Aielyn]] 09:25, 22 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::If another Pokémon can learn a move via level, TM or breeding it is not considered a signature move. A signature move must be a move only usable by one Pokémon (Mew can learn Transform and Clefairy, Oddish, Cresselia etc. can learn Moonlight).--[[User:Force Fire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#424B50&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;F&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#848A8D&amp;quot;&amp;gt;orce&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Force Fire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E3CED0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;F&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#EDDFE0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ire&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 10:08, 22 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Oshawott and evolutions==&lt;br /&gt;
Shouldn&#039;t Razor Shell be Oshawott/Dewott/Samurott&#039;s signature moves? [[User:JacobTheDoduo|JacobTheDoduo]] 19:36, 21 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Shellder [[Razor Shell (move)#Learnset|also learns it by level]]. So no. &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:55, 21 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Signature Move recovery ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, &amp;quot;Also, some of these moves can be passed down via breeding to other Pokémon or are known by certain event Pokémon.&amp;quot; Well how about Signature Move recovery? Sometimes there&#039;s only one Pokémon able to learn a move in that generation: Skarmory and Steel Wing for exemple, but because many Pokémon can learn it in a previous generation it isn&#039;t a Signature Move. This means that if TM 47 hadn&#039;t existed in gen 3 and 4 but in gen 5, Steel Wing would&#039;ve been Skarmory&#039;s Signature Move for two generations and it would&#039;ve lost this status in gen 5. But now its reversed and so it means Steel Wing isn&#039;t Skarmory&#039;s Signature Move in any generation!? I personally don&#039;t think so. And by the way Mega Kick is Hitmonlee&#039;s Signature Move, but there many Pokémon able to learn it in Firered and Leafgreen. So that&#039;s why Steel Wing (still for exemple) has to be Skarmory Signature Move. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 14:40, 12 June 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree. They have been added. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 11:22, 16 June 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In &#039;Other signature move examples&#039; are many exemples of moves which only one evolutionary line can learn by leveling up, but can be learned by other Pokémon too via TM. Could we give those exemples their own table? Just like the one for the real signature moves. This would make the page a little more clear. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 19:42, 28 July 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Squirtle&#039;s evolutionary family and Sharpedo are the only Pokémon to learn Skull Bash by leveling up, but other Pokémon could learn it through TM40 in Generation I.&lt;br /&gt;
Sudowoodo is the only Pokémon to learn Mimic by leveling up in Generation II, but other Pokémon could learn it through TM31 in Generation I and Move Tutor in Generation III.&lt;br /&gt;
In Generations II, IV and V and Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire, Hitmonlee is the only Pokémon who can learn Mega Kick. However, in Generation I and Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen, others could learn it through TM and Move Tutor respectively.&lt;br /&gt;
Unown can learn only Hidden Power; however, almost every other Pokémon can learn it via TM10 in Generation II and beyond.&lt;br /&gt;
Although several Pokémon can learn it by TM, until Generation III only Diglett and Dugtrio could learn Dig by level up.&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to Generation V, Vigoroth is the only Pokémon to learn Focus Punch by leveling up, although many other Pokémon can learn it via TM01.&lt;br /&gt;
Porygon-Z is the only Pokémon to learn Trick Room by leveling up, although that move can be learned via TM92.&lt;br /&gt;
Almost every Pokémon is able to learn Facade via TM42. However, Chimchar is the only one to learn it by leveling up prior to Generation V.&lt;br /&gt;
Although only Panpour and its evolution are the only Pokémon to learn Scald by leveling up, other Pokémon can learn it via TM55.&lt;br /&gt;
Also, Pansage is currently the only Pokémon to learn Grass Knot by leveling up, yet other Pokémon can learn it via TM86.&lt;br /&gt;
Kadabra and Alakazam are the only Pokémon to learn Ally Switch by leveling up, but other Pokémon can learn it through TM51 in Generation V.&lt;br /&gt;
Sawk is the only Pokémon to learn Rock Smash by leveling up, but other Pokémon can learn it through TM94 in Generation V.&lt;br /&gt;
Emolga is the only Pokémon to learn Volt Switch by leveling up, but other Pokémon can learn it through TM72 in Generation V. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 19:47, 28 July 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Do skill swap and steel wing really count as signature moves? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think something should only be considered a signature more IF only one Pokémon or only the Pokémon from one evolutionary line can learn it since the beginning. But I wouldn&#039;t say that steel wing is really Skarmory&#039;s signature move since it was a TM earlier on. Yeah, it&#039;s no longer a TM, but that doesn&#039;t make it Skarmory&#039;s signature move all of a sudden.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also regarding skill swap, that&#039;s also a move that used to be a TM, so I wouldn&#039;t say it&#039;s a signature move either. What do you guys think? [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 15:18, 22 March 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Steel Wing is definitely a signature move, because even though it was a TM for several generations, Skarmory learned it by level up in all those generations as well, and was the &#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039; Pokemon to learn it by level up. If anything, I think it should be listed as Skarmory&#039;s signature move in Gen 2-5 instead of just 5. Skill Swap is a slightly trickier matter that will probably require a more refined definition of &amp;quot;signature move&amp;quot; to resolve satisfactorily one way or the other.&lt;br /&gt;
:Personally, I think we should refine the definition so that it doesn&#039;t matter if a plethora of Pokemon can learn a move by a &amp;quot;lower&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;less common&amp;quot; method (i.e. TMs, Move Tutors, events); as long as only one family can learn it by level up, that is its signature move. (And if nothing learns it by level up and only one thing learns it by another method, that&#039;s also a signature move, of course.) But that&#039;s just my opinion. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:01, 22 March 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::In that case would you say that {{m|return}} is {{p|Lopunny}}&#039;s signature move? Sure, that move was introduced long before Loponny was but Lopunny is the only Pokémon that learns it by level up. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 16:12, 22 March 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That&#039;s why I said Skill Swap (which is in the same boat) is a tricky matter. There should probably be a provision where widely/universally-available TMs like Return aren&#039;t signature moves unless the one Pokémon that learns it by level up has been able to learn it at least as long as the move has been a TM. On the other hand, something like Softboiled was obviously Chansey&#039;s signature move even in Gen 1, in which nothing learned it by level up and the TM was only learnable by Chansey and Mew (which, of course, can learn anything). Of course, those are both extremes on opposite sides of the spectrum, and examples that are somewhere in the middle (like Skill Swap) are more difficult to figure. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:24, 22 March 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A few things... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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First... Why don&#039;t egg moves disqualify a signature move? Due to them, moves like Present and Beat Up are VERY widespread, compared to moves like Softboiled and Needle Arm that get disqualified for very small numbers of other Pokemon.&lt;br /&gt;
Second... Why does Volt Tackle count as a Pikachu signature when it can&#039;t learn it by any means itself? (It can only get it by evolving a Pichu that knows it &amp;lt;which should also qualify Raichu and a bunch of other families&#039; Pokemon if this counts&amp;gt; or by events &amp;lt;which have been noted to generally not count&amp;gt;.)&lt;br /&gt;
Third... Why does Sacred Sword (and relatedly, Fusion Flare/Bolt) count as a signature move for the Swords of Justice (who aren&#039;t technically related by family) when Rolling Kick (which only Hitmonlee and Hitmontop, who are related, can learn, excluding egg moves) doesn&#039;t from Generation 2 onwards?&lt;br /&gt;
Fourth... Needle Arm isn&#039;t learned by anything other than Cacnea/Cacturne in Generation 4, either. (It&#039;s only marked as being signature in Generation 3.)&lt;br /&gt;
Fifth... Only the Whismur line learned Sleep Talk, except by breeding, in Ruby and Sapphire.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:RiverShock|RiverShock]] ([[User talk:RiverShock|talk]]) 16:00, 25 March 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Misplacing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there a reason why Jynx (#124) is placed after Magikarp (#129)? I searched the rest of the list and didn&#039;t see this error again. [[User:PokefanR|PokefanR]] ([[User talk:PokefanR|talk]]) 23:10, 27 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== outrage and dragonite ==&lt;br /&gt;
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outrage was the dratini&#039;s family signature move in gen 2 and that isn&#039;t on the list [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 15:53, 24 June 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:By level-up, yes. Charmander and Larvitar can learn it by breeding, so I&#039;m not sure how to categorize this. [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 07:46, 27 June 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Breeding is ignored for signature moves. Because by that logic, eg. {{m|Pay Day}} would be signature only in G3-G4 (G1 has TM, G2 has breed from TM and G5 has breed), when it&#039;s signature since G2. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 09:04, 27 June 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::actually I just didn&#039;t see it it the list lol [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 12:28, 8 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nuzzle ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Would Nuzzle count as a pseudo signature as it can only be learned by Pikachu and it&#039;s imitators? [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] ([[User talk:Guybrush20X6|talk]]) 09:41, 15 November 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:That seems notable, I guess, but I&#039;m going to say no. It&#039;s like how Glare is only learnable by snake-based Pokémon (excluding breeding). Since all those rodents are unrelated by evolution, it just comes down to specifics on how the move is actually used (description involves &amp;quot;electrified cheeks&amp;quot;). --[[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiANGLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;([[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#cc00aa&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]])&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:22, 18 November 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Definition ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article doesn&#039;t give a clear definition of what conditions we consider a move to be a signature move and what conditions we don&#039;t. All it says is that &#039;&#039;Most are learned by leveling up but some can be learned through other means when no Pokémon can learn the move by leveling up&#039;&#039;. There&#039;s no addressing what disqualifies a signature move: do TMs? do Egg moves? do event moves? do all of these disqualify in all cases, or are there special circumstances? There&#039;s been a lot of disagreement on this talk page about what constitutes a signature move, so we need to actually state &#039;&#039;our definition&#039;&#039; in the article so it&#039;s clear to readers. I would do so myself, but I don&#039;t know what that definition is to me because {{tt|our criteria make no sense to me|Really, Soft-Boiled is disqualified from Gen I Chansey on this page because it&#039;s a TM, but there&#039;s no mention of &#039;&#039;since Generation II&#039;&#039; in Soft-Boiled&#039;s article?}}. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:38, 27 December 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Solosis line and Skill Swap? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Does Skill Swap really count as being a signature move for the Solosis line? Sure, they were the first ones to be able to learn it by level up, but many others could learn it through other means. Heck, the move itself appeared two generations before the Pokémon did. If no one has any objections, I think it should be removed. --[[User:RiverAura|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#00CCFF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;River&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User_Talk:RiverAura|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#00FFCC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Aura&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 00:16, 15 January 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, it definitely doesn&#039;t fit since it can be taught by Move Tutor in the same Generation it&#039;s listed as being a signature move in. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 00:31, 15 January 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Event moves... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Should Hold Back and Happy Hour really be considered signature moves? They&#039;re not naturally known by any Pokemon, and several moves that otherwise qualify as Signature moves on this list, such as Shift Gear, Spacial Rend and Fusion Bolt have been given to event Pokemon. The fact they&#039;re only known by 1 Pokemon seems meaningless since any Pokemon could (and in all probability, will) be given them. (And again, no Pokemon actually learns them naturally.)&lt;br /&gt;
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Incidentally, the list of &amp;quot;One-off signature moves&amp;quot; is rather incomplete. (Being both outdated, and lacking some earlier ones like XD&#039;s Frenzy Plant/Blast Burn/Hydro Cannon Gen 2 starters.)&lt;br /&gt;
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Given Egg Moves seem to be ignored, Whismur/Loudred/Exploud should have Sleep Talk as a signature move in Ruby/Sapphire and Spoink/Grumpig should have Magic Coat as a signature move in the entirety of Gen 3. If Hold Back and Happy Hour are deemed to be valid signature moves, then Snarl should be a signature move of Zoroark in Black/White since TM95 wasn&#039;t legitimately obtainable, and thus event Zoroark (or a trade back from BW2, which also shouldn&#039;t count, since otherwise it would disqualify things like Meowth&#039;s Gen 2 Pay Day) is the only Pokemon that can know it outside breeding in those games. [[User:RiverShock|RiverShock]] ([[User talk:RiverShock|talk]]) 23:54, 30 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In order for a Pokémon to qualify as having a signature move, it must meet one of the following conditions: (1) It must be the only Pokémon (or Pokémon family) to learn the move (excluding Smeargle using Sketch), or (2) It must be the only Pokémon (or Pokémon family) to learn the move by Level Up. At the time of this writing, Celebi&#039;s Hold Back and Inkay&#039;s Happy Hour qualify them for condition #1. If a later event is released giving the move to a different Pokémon, then they will cease being signature moves, and they will be removed. If a later game is released where the moves are available to more Pokémon, the same will occur. Celebrate and V-Create are good examples of this. They are event-exclusive moves, but they are available to multiple evolution lines, with Celebrate being found on both Pikachu and Eevee (plus evolutions), and V-Create being available to both Victini and Rayquaza. Shift Gear, Spacial Rend, Fusion Bolt, etc. are considered signature moves because their users qualify for condition #2, they are the only Pokémon capable of learning the move through Level Up. Snarl on Zoroark was a signature move of Zoroark in Black/White, however, it isn&#039;t listed because we don&#039;t list things by games, we list them by generation, and the move is not exclusive to Zoroark when you look at Generation V as a whole - which would include Black 2/White 2. Meowth&#039;s Gen 2 Pay Day is a signature move because it qualifies for both conditions in Gen 2. --[[User:GoldenSandslash15|GoldenSandslash15]] ([[User talk:GoldenSandslash15|talk]]) 04:14, 31 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, GoldenSandslash, we do frequently list things by game instead of generation. See, for example, the Alakazam line&#039;s Kinesis in Yellow or Hitmonchan&#039;s Vacuum Wave in Diamond/Pearl. Also, your condition #2 is wrong; a TM is also enough to disqualify it, even if only one family can learn it by level up. (I strongly disagree with this criterion, but for some reason it exists.) In any case, I agree that TM95 being unobtainable in BW shouldn&#039;t make Snarl Zoroark&#039;s signature move, because if you do get a TM95 in BW somehow (tradeback or cheating), it is programmed to be compatible with tons of Pokemon, so it&#039;s &#039;&#039;technically&#039;&#039; in their movesets, and it&#039;s not programmed to be in Zoroark&#039;s level up moveset at all. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
:::TMs aren&#039;t tradeable in Gen 5, so there has never been (and never will be) a way to teach a Pokemon a move via TM95 in Black/White without cheating. The only way TM95&#039;s compatibility is referred to at all in Black/White is by breeding a tradeback or this Zoroark. (Or a Smeargle that Sketched from this Zoroark or a tradeback, I guess.) And breeding doesn&#039;t disqualify a signature move. Why should unobtainable moves in a Pokemon&#039;s potential learnset count towards disqualifying a signature move? [[User:RiverShock|RiverShock]] ([[User talk:RiverShock|talk]]) 17:39, 31 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bone/Rolling Kick thing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The removed fact was:&lt;br /&gt;
 * Bone Club and Bonemerang are the only STAB signature moves throughout all 6 generations.&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t think Rolling Kick counts because Machop, Hitmontop, and Elekid can learn it. Thus the Bone attacks are the only true signature moves. (IMO, the only signature egg move is Volt Tackle)&lt;br /&gt;
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And in case someone says Kinesis, it does no damage, thus doesn&#039;t qualify for STAB. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 22:43, 8 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Regardless, Rolling Kick is still a signature move, &amp;quot;true&amp;quot; signature move or not. Once you try to add too many conditions to make a factoid seem unique, it just becomes not notable enough to add. --[[User:Carmenstar97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#95EB5C&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Carmen&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;★&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:Carmenstar97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FEBEE8&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(Talk |&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A6DAFC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;contribs)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:56, 8 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Discuss please: Move Tutor vs. level-up ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It has come to my attention on the {{m|Electroweb}} page that, for some reason, we consider it Joltik/Galvantula&#039;s signature move in BW, not in B2W2, again in XY, and then not in ORAS, simply because of the B2W2 and ORAS move tutors. This is frankly ridiculous and makes no sense whatsoever. It was also pointed out that Hitmonlee&#039;s Mega Kick is also subject to this problem in Gen III.&lt;br /&gt;
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The fact is that, in a post-Gen III world in which Pokémon can be and regularly are transferred forward and in which Move Tutor availability is extremely broad in some games and extremely narrow in others, the current criteria for signature moves are obscure, difficult to divine, and needlessly convoluted. The simple fact should be that if a Pokémon or evolutionary line is the only one who can learn a move (barring events), that should be its signature move, and if any other Pokémon can have legal access to it by any means (including intergenerational transfer), it should not be considered a signature move. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:32, 5 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ve actually agreed with that for a while; the only reason I undid your edit was because those were the rules lol. Can we please change this? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 20:12, 5 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think it&#039;s pretty possible to complain both ways.&lt;br /&gt;
::We already exclude events or other special circumstances (or {{m|Pay Day}} wouldn&#039;t be Meowth&#039;s signature move in Gen II/III), and you can kind of view transferred Pokemon like events, if nothing else in the game lets you pass down the move or anything. (...It looks like Hoppip can learn Pay Day by breeding in Gen II, though; by that, I don&#039;t support calling it Meowth&#039;s signature move for Gen II, actually.)&lt;br /&gt;
::I pretty much think a move should be a signature move in Generation [X] if no one can learn it newly outside of one family. Our intro is plenty ambiguous, though. If we could settle on one definition, I&#039;d certainly love to make it much clearer. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:03, 6 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think I both agree and disagree. I understand how it seems odd for Electroweb&#039;s status as a signature move to bounce back and forth, however that&#039;s not a particularly common occurrence, and I think it still fits in with the spirit of a signature move. After all, Audino had Secret Power as a signature move in Gen V, even though nearly any Pokémon could exist on those cartridges knowing that move through transfers. I disagree, then, that transfer availability disqualifies a move from being a &amp;quot;signature&amp;quot; move. I also think that the criteria for signature moves are in no way obscure or &amp;quot;difficult to divine&amp;quot;, regardless of whether or not I agree with them. A move is a signature move &#039;in a particular game&#039; if only one family of Pokémon—either evolutionary line or related Legendaries—can learn it without breeding. Transfers and events can be considered reasonable exceptions as they both require interaction outside the game itself (connection to another game or download server—conditions not pre-loaded onto the cartridge). Pretty clear-cut in my opinion. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:19, 8 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Why, then, do TMs and Tutors disqualify a signature move, but breeding does not? I have never seen a satisfactory answer for this, nor can I imagine that one exists. It&#039;s utterly arbitrary and senseless. It&#039;d be better to have it all-or-nothing. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:29, 8 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::If a move exists as a TM or Tutor move, the game is telling you that there are many Pokémon that can learn it. Like, the move is being advertised to you as something that can be &amp;quot;taught&amp;quot;. It&#039;s nearly impossible to explain; you either see it or you don&#039;t. All I can say is that it would make absolutely no sense for a TM/Tutor move to be learnable by one Pokémon (barring &amp;quot;special&amp;quot; tutor moves like Dragon Ascent; which are specifically mentioned to be FOR a specific Pokémon). Yes that happened in Gen I but we are far past that now. Breeding doesn&#039;t really carry that same weight, because when a move is gained by breeding, it is &amp;quot;passed down&amp;quot; by the parent who knows the move, rather than &amp;quot;taught&amp;quot; to the Pokémon from an outside force. That&#039;s really the best way I can explain it. It makes perfect sense to me. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:42, 8 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;==Elemental Hyper Beams==&lt;br /&gt;
In Gen. III, only Charizard, Venusaur and Blastoise could learn [[Blast Burn]], [[Frenzy Plant]] and [[Hydro Cannon]], respectively. The Johto starters could learn it too, but only by being traded from XD (just like [[Lugia]] and [[Psycho Boost]]). Should the 3 HB variations be included in this list, since other &amp;quot;former&amp;quot; signature moves are also included?--[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 02:12, 28 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Feel free to add it at the bottom of the page, but note that all the fully-evolved starters can learn them in Generation IV. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 00:11, 4 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::You know, there&#039;s not really too much of a point to replying to topics well over a month old. --[[User:Martonimos|((&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#008000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Marton&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Martonimos|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#50C878&amp;quot;&amp;gt;imos&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;))]] 00:23, 4 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Skarmory?==&lt;br /&gt;
Should Skarmory with Steel Wing be included here? After all, it is the only Pokemon that can learn it naturally.&lt;br /&gt;
:That would be a good case to make. Question is, how many others do that? &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;E&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 03:14, 15 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Hitmonlee with {{M|Mega Kick}} [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 03:56, 15 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::And I&#039;m sure there are more, like Hitmonchan and {{m|Vacuum Wave}}.  I, too, am used to call moves &amp;quot;signature&amp;quot; when they&#039;re exclusive to few by leveling up. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:55, 18 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
What about [[Porygon-Z]] and [[Trick Room]]? Though Trick Room is a [[TM]], only Porygon-Z learns it naturally. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 17:55, 25 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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What about [[Metagross]] and [[Meteor Mash]]?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Mooshykris|Mooshykris]] 22:02, 20 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Clefairy]] learns [[Meteor Mash]], though...hardly exclusive...&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Myrmidon|Myrmidom]]&lt;br /&gt;
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And [[Chimchar]] with [[Facade]], this is the same scenario as [[Trick Room]]. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 15:18, 21 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Level-up otherwise exclusive to TMs? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, I just wanted to organize what&#039;s been said above. What we have so far is...&lt;br /&gt;
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{| border=1 align=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background: #C0C0FF;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! [[TM]] or [[HM]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Move]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Pokémon]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Level]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Generation]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | [[TM01]]&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{m|Focus Punch}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{p|Vigoroth}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 43&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 43&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM21]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Frustration}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Buneary}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 13&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM27]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Return}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Lopunny}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 13&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM42]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Facade}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Chimchar}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 31&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot; | [[TM47]]&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot; | {{m|Steel Wing}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot; | {{p|Skarmory}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 49&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 32&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 38&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[HM05]] ([[Generation III]])&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{m|Flash}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{p|Volbeat}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | --&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM70]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM72]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Avalanche}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Smoochum}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 31&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM72]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Avalanche}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Jynx}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 33&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[TM92]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Trick Room}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Porygon-Z}}&lt;br /&gt;
| --&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | [[HM07]]&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | {{m|Waterfall}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | {{p|Goldeen}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 37&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 38&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 38&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 37&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | [[HM07]]&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | {{m|Waterfall}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | {{p|Seaking}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 39&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 41&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 41&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 40&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;all&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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If anyone thinks of any others, go on and add them in here. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;E&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 23:54, 21 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: As I said above, Hitmonlee with {{M|Mega Kick}}.  [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 01:52, 22 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I placed it [[#Level-up_otherwise_exclusive_to_Move_Tutors.3F|here]] so that we stay in a [[Generation III]]/[[Generation IV|IV]] scope. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 04:22, 22 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Uh, Raquazza and Fly! Only he learns through level up!--&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A020F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Quick Man|Quick Man]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 12:57, 15 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*coughs* Salamence. That&#039;s like his family&#039;s evolution story line. And I think it should be at least mentioned about Abra, and how he only uses Teleport.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Read [[Salamence#Learnset|this]] [[User:Kkllnn|Blastoise RULZ]] 20:03, 12 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Meowth&#039;s Pay Day (Generation I&#039;s TM16) should probably be in this section as well... [[User:Blue Charizard|Blue Charizard]] 18:00, 2 April 2010&lt;br /&gt;
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== Level-up otherwise exclusive to Move Tutors? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This might be useful if &amp;quot;signature move&amp;quot; is furtherly redefined. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 04:21, 22 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{| border=1 align=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background: #C0C0FF;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Move]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Pokémon]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Level]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Generation]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | {{m|Mega Kick}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot; | {{p|Hitmonlee}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 53&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 46&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 46&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 49&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;all&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Level-up otherwise exclusive to breeding? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the article, {{m|Octazooka}} is listed as being signature of only {{p|Octillery}}, and {{m|Present}} is listed as being signature of only {{p|Delibird}} (just to mention some), which is true only if the definition of &amp;quot;signature moves&amp;quot; includes this type of moves. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 06:06, 22 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{| border=1 align=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background: #C0C0FF;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Move]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Pokémon]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Level]]&lt;br /&gt;
! [[Generation]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{m|Icicle Spear}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{p|Shellder}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 8&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}} ([[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|FR/LG]])&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 13&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{m|SmellingSalt}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{p|Makuhita}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 31&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 22&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{m|SmellingSalt}}&lt;br /&gt;
| rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | {{p|Hariyama}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 33&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 22&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| {{m|Vacuum Wave}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Hitmonchan}}&lt;br /&gt;
| 26&lt;br /&gt;
| {{gen|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br clear=&amp;quot;all&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== About evolved forms ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Should stone-induced evolved forms be listed?  {{p|Pikachu}} and {{p|Raichu}} appear in the article.  However, the species that actually learns {{m|Volt Tackle}} is {{p|Pichu}} (making the [[Pokémon Battle Revolution#Colosseums|Battle Revolution Pikachu]] a [[Signature move#Trivia|trivia section]] material).  If Raichu can appear in the list, then {{p|Togekiss}} and {{p|Mismagius}} should, too. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:36, 22 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, I think that only the Pokémon that learns the move should be listed. So Pichu should be listed, but it&#039;s evolutions shouldn&#039;t. Only if the evolution learns the move then they an be listed. So both Cubone and Marowak learn Bonemerang, therefore both should be listed. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF594F;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESH&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User Talk:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#5FA7C6;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TALK&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 15:57, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Splash?==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Would [[Splash (move)|Splash]] be eligible for inclusion here? A bunch of Pokémon can learn the move nowadays, but back in Generation I it was very much [[Magikarp (Pokémon)|Magikarp]]&#039;s trademark. A similar case is already included on the list (Petal Dance, which was exclusive to the Oddish line in Generation I). [[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]] 08:48, 20 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You&#039;re right, according to the current status of the article.  But I think that kind of moves shouldn&#039;t appear in the list.  IMO, in any case, [[Generation III]] stuff is the only past generation that should be mentioned, as it&#039;s compatible with [[Generation IV]], but I still don&#039;t like the idea.&lt;br /&gt;
:I take it this all started with the ExtremeSpeed Dratini from the trivia section, right?  Well, that Dratini is obsolete, too.  I propose we get rid of ExtremeSpeed Dratini and there won&#039;t be need for the ExtremeSpeed Arcanine and the other obsolete groups. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:18, 20 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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NO! Lol, we should split this article into each Generation, with a trivia section for Pokémon that do not learn a move naturally. Like Dratini in GenII. I think this would be better. &amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#F05030;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESH&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User Talk:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#5C8CFA;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TALK&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User:Tesh/Other|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#EEC226;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;FUN&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; 16:20, 20 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah... one of the things I was going to suggest was listing the likes of Splash, ExtremeSpeed and so on in a seperate table, for moves that were once exclusive to a single line, but aren&#039;t anymore. I think these moves are certainly worth mentioning somewhere in the article, as they might still be relevant to someone who&#039;s playing any of the older games. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:Bikini Miltank|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#ff7755&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Moo, I say.&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:33, 20 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::You mean like {{p|Blaziken}}&#039;s {{m|Blaze Kick}}? &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot; color:navy&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Hi&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:03, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Splash/Magikarp should be there, and Blaze Kick/Blaziken should have been there ages ago! &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Magnemite ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ok, sorry about that, but i think Zap Cannon should at least be there, other than the TM, only it and Porygon could learn it in Gen II. on that note, hows about Magnet Bomb, which only they and Nosepass/Probopass can learn? &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 04:59, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Skay. Magnet Bomb, however.. I think we should add that. [[User:Tina|Tina]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::idk, i still think Zap Cannon should be there. i didnt even know Porygon could learn it untill a few mins ago. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:06, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::As of GenIV, 13 Pokémon can learn Zap Cannon.. [[User:Tina|Tina]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::As in check the {{m|Zap Cannon}} page...&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot; color:navy&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Hi&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:12, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::ok, i thought there were notes for previous Gens. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:20, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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now wait a minute...Tina agreed that Magnet Bomb should be added as a sig move. besides, the page even says, &amp;quot;can only be learned by a single Pokémon &#039;&#039;&#039;or a very small select group of Pokémon&#039;&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot; both Magnemite and Probopass are Steel with magnet-ness. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:29, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::So? That would mean I had to kick in the kickingfeet Pokémon and the chicken...Reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
#They don&#039;t seem to be related...&lt;br /&gt;
#Five Pokémon isn&#039;t a small group&lt;br /&gt;
#Tina agreed, so I&#039;m saying the opposite...&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot; color:navy&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Hi&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:31, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::well...&lt;br /&gt;
::#they are related, magnet-ness alnog with both lvling up at Coronet&lt;br /&gt;
::#its technically only 2 Pokemon, Magnemite and Probopass, the page lists Mag&#039;s evo line and Probopass twice (for some reason)&lt;br /&gt;
::&lt;br /&gt;
::&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:37, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ack! You win...&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot; color:navy&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Hi&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:39, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::i didnt fight because its Magnemite, i just fought for the truth! that being said, i still think Blaziken should be on there with a note about Gen 3 or somthing. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAGNEDETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PT]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:43, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Capitalized please...Hitmonlee and Blaziken seems select enough...&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;sc&amp;gt;[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]&amp;lt;/sc&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot; color:navy&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Hi&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Splitting ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This page needs to be split up into Generations I think. There are too many prior to Genration IV. [[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B7AD96;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESHIGIGAS&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[Image:486MS.png|RAWR!!]] 20:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, No. That&#039;s not needed. It&#039;s fine how it is. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Theryguy512|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF7F00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Theryguy&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Theryguy512|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#5C8CFA&amp;quot;&amp;gt;5&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#5C8CFA&amp;quot;&amp;gt;1&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#5C8CFA&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:22, 8 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::But then we could sychronise the trivia into it as well. [[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B7AD96;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESHIGIGAS&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[Image:486MS.png|RAWR!!]] 18:11, 9 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Small group? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since Mathis seems to have decided to take a chainsaw to the list, I have to ask: How big is a &amp;quot;small group&amp;quot; of Pokémon? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:24, 12 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:small group denotes 2 evo lines. so, as seen above, with {{m|Magnet Bomb}}, only two pokemon can learn it, with the exception of their own evos. -- &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAG&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#696969;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 19:31, 12 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Ok. *points at the top of the page* What about {{m|Meteor Mash}} then? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 00:45, 13 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::well, somone should add that to the page. along with the others in my opinion. though, it could be argued that Math earlier had the right idea. super exclusive only. -- &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAG&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#696969;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:55, 13 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Staryu ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In Generation III, [[Staryu]] was the only Pokemon who could learn [[Camouflage (move)|Camouflage]]. [[Mothim]] can now learn it in Gen IV. Nevertheless, I would assume that Staryu would count as a Pokémon with a signature move before Gen IV. -[[User:TIMMY|TIMMY]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: Added.  [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 20:31, 13 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Really, exactly two Pokemon knowing a move is still pretty exclusive. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 09:07, 14 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::We&#039;re still missing {{p|Mothim}} on there though...I guess I&#039;ll add it unless anyone has any objections...[[User:Ht14|ht14]] 00:35, 16 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Skitty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, Skitty (and Delecatty, but Skitty Evolves into that) were the only ones to know assist until Generation IV, I think Skitty deserves a mention (Delecatty doesn&#039;t scince she only learns VIA from Skitty knowing before evelution).--&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A020F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Quick Man|Quick Man]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 13:26, 14 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cleanup ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article NEEDS some cleanup... some signature moves don&#039;t make sense and some are in a lot of pokemon, so they should be removed. I think if a pokemon prior to Gen IV now learns a GEN IV move, it shouldn&#039;t be mentioned, &#039;cause it&#039;s obvious that another pokemon will learn the same move (for example Relicanth that learns [[Head Smash (move)|Cranidos&#039; signature]]. in that case Relicanth should be removed). If someone doesn&#039;t agree with me, then just undo it. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:47, 9 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s fine. &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#4B0082&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Pachirisulover12|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFD700&amp;quot;&amp;gt;PL&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FFA500&amp;quot;&amp;gt;12&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:48, 9 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::It&#039;s fine if it&#039;s only one or two different evolution families. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 04:04, 9 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Crush Grip ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What about the Combusken who has Crush Grip in PBR {{unsigned|Tannerbro}}&lt;br /&gt;
:That Combusken is unobtainable &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 18:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I have seen no proof that exsits. Can someone (an admin) hide that comment until there is a picture or video shown so we can back up such a far fetched claim? [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 02:47, 4 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, hiding comments is virtually the same as deleting them, which isn&#039;t allowed. &#039;&#039;[[User:Moldy orange|&amp;lt;sup style=&amp;quot;color:#4B5320;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Moldy&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Moldy orange|&amp;lt;sub style=&amp;quot;color:#ED9121;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Orange&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039; 02:48, 4 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I&#039;m actually now wondering if this person was mistaking Crush Grip for the breedable {{m|Crush Claw}}... &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 01:14, 16 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Meteor Mash ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Meteor Mash should definitely be included, like only 2 pokémon lines can learn it, and like skull bash, is listed here which also has 2 pokémon lines so why shouldn&#039;t Meteor Mash be? And why is some Hitmonlee&#039;s and other POkemon&#039;s moves are asterixed when Medicham later on has Hi Jump Kick and isnt asterixed?? It should only be asterixed when the sig move has gone completely over eg extremespeed which the others rayquaza etc arent listed... ... [[User:Wowy|--&amp;amp;lt;large&amp;amp;gt; &amp;amp;quot;&amp;amp;#91;&amp;amp;#91;User:WoWy&amp;amp;#124;&amp;amp;lt;font color=&amp;amp;quot;blue&amp;amp;quot;;&amp;amp;gt;WoWy&amp;amp;lt;/font&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;#93;&amp;amp;#93;&amp;amp;quot;&amp;amp;lt;/large&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;#39;&amp;amp;#39;(&amp;amp;#91;&amp;amp;#91;User talk:Wowy&amp;amp;#124;&amp;amp;lt;font color=&amp;amp;quot;green&amp;amp;quot;;&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;lt;&amp;amp;lt;/font&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;#93;&amp;amp;#93;)&amp;amp;#39;&amp;amp;#39;]] 05:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)Wowy&lt;br /&gt;
:I think this article is the most controvesrial thing... I think that a signature move should be a move that onle ONE Pokémon learns... I mean these are the REAL signature moves:&lt;br /&gt;
:*Volt Tackle (Pikachu family)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Pay Day (Meowth)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Kinesis (Kadabra and Alakazam)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Barrage (Exeggcute family)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Bone Club (Cubone and Marowak)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Lovely Kiss (Smoochum and Jynx)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Conversion, Conversion2 and Sharpen (Porygons)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Spider Web (Spinarak and Ariados)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Pain Split (Misdreavus)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Octazooka (Octillery)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Present (Delibird)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Sketch (Smeargle)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Triple Kick (Hitmontop)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Milk Drink (Miltank)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Aeroblast (Lugia)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Sacred Fire (Ho-Oh)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Arm Thrust (Makuhita and Hariyama)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Teeter Dance (Spinda)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Poison Tail (Seviper)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Ice Ball (Spheal family)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Mist Ball (Latias)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Luster Purge (Latios)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Doom Desire (Jirachi)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Psycho Boost (Deoxys)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Attack, Defend and Heal Orders (Vespiqueen)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Chatter (Chatot)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Rock Wrecker (Rhyperior)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Roar of Time (Dialga)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Spacial Rend (Palkia)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Magma Storm (Heatran)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Crush Grip (Regigigas)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Shadow Force (Giratina)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Lunar Dance (Cresselia)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Heart Swap (Manaphy)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Dark Void (Darkrai)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Seed Flare (Shaymin)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Judgement (Arceus)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Any other move should not be in the list, because more than a family learns it. Remember that a signature is something that&#039;s from your own and no one else. That&#039;s why repeated moves should not be in the list. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 18:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I agree with this.  Also, {{m|Bonemerang}} is another exclusive move to the {{p|Cubone}} family.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#003366&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;$aturn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#008000&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;¥oshi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#800000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE VOICES&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:55, 23 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Moves===&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ll add Splash becoz only Magikarp had Splash in Gen I with an asterix sign, while Meteor Mash also becoz there are some moves listed here that have more than one move per pokémon, usally two. And who said that only one family needs a signature move and when it has two it&#039;s not. I&#039;ve never seen any official guide saying that. And Icicle Spear, Smelligsalt and Vacuum Wave I&#039;ll add becoz Octazooka is here which can also be bred. These moves are VERY free to undo if u wish. Oh and i&#039;ll add assist with an asterix as only skitty can learn in Gen III--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 07:17, 14 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Signature moves can be bred, that&#039;s obvious, but no Pokémon can normally learn them. This article NEEDS to be redone. &#039;nuff said. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 12:56, 14 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== waterfall ==&lt;br /&gt;
I see someone&#039;s cleaned it up but waterfall should be included but with an * coz ONLY goldeen and seaking learnt in Gen I coz it wasnt a TM/HM there could be more moves like this--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 23:47, 1 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I also noticed mimic is a signatre move for sudowoodo, however in ONLY generation II because in Generation I it was a TM, I&#039;m not sure about MIMIC--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 23:50, 1 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::What about {{m|featherDance}}?--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 06:15, 6 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fact ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could someone add that signature moves are recommended for the pokemon learning them. Also, you forgot about the legendaries. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;- &#039;&#039;unsigned comment from [[User:Xknight 511|Xknight 511]] ([[User talk:Xknight 511|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xknight 511|contribs]]){{ #if:  | &amp;amp;#32;{{{2}}} |}}&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:In some cases they aren&#039;t. Take for example Ho-Oh in Gen II and III. He has Higher Attack than Sp. Atk, but his Signature move focuses in Sp. Atk. So it depends on the trainer. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 07:01, 6 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sorted by generation? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How ab out instead of making it so pokemon has a note saying when the move isn&#039;t signature, we make a page or section on this page for each generation? [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 15:22, 6 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you mean have sections like &amp;quot;Signature moves in Generation I&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Signature moves in Generation II&amp;quot;? If so, I think that&#039;s a great idea. [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 15:39, 6 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think that&#039; s very good idea too. [[User:RikkiKitsune|Rikki Kitsune]] 19:28, 17 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;ve been working on this for the past month, using a Word document. But it hasn&#039;t been going so well. You see, some signature moves just came off the top of my head, but I&#039;m having trouble remembering whether or not there are any signature moves other than the ones in my document. But don&#039;t fear, I&#039;ll get it finished soon. --[[user:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF4500;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Baby G]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[user talk:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D1E231;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk to me]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B87333;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;see my edits]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:58, 17 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unprotect please ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Kenji-girl protected this article because she was losing in the edit war. I told her that I promise to stop edit warring, but she&#039;s completely ignoring me. Can someone please unprotect this article? [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 15:38, 6 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Platinum ==&lt;br /&gt;
Should i add Platinum signature moves, coz I added scyther with Vacuum Wave and somone took it off... Look at Serebii and it says it can learn it...--&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Wowy|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color=#E7CE6B&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Wowy&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color=#42528C&amp;quot;&amp;gt;XD&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Wowy|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color=#FFD600&amp;quot;&amp;gt;\⁄&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color=#FF5A00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;!!!&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;-talk&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;  07:08, 15 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, yeah Serebii knows lots of things, but he isn&#039;t very relliable at times... and you NEED to fix your signature!!! &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 22:48, 15 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, Scyther can learn Vacuum Wave via the move relearner in Pastoria, so it is indeed one of Scyther&#039;s moves.--[[User:RiverAura|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;#00ccff&amp;quot;&amp;gt;*River*&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[User_Talk:RiverAura|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;#00ffcc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;*Aura*&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Camouflage ==&lt;br /&gt;
Why Camouflage is here? It can be learned by two pokémon --[[User:CorsolaSplash|CorsolaSplash]] 18:32, 15 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:As long as it&#039;s learnable by a relative few Pokémon (out of 493, two is VERY few), it goes here. I don&#039;t know where we should put the threshold, however, but as long as less than 1% of all Pokémon learn a move (not counting their evolutions) it should go here. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 01:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I kinda think it should be limited to one evolution family, ESPECIALLY if two very unrelated Pokémon (like Scyther and Hitmonlee as mentioned with {{m|Vacuum Wave}} above) both know the move. If you think that&#039;s too extreme/harsh, maybe if two somewhat similar Pokémon both know the move (like if they have common design elements or something). ←{&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Berrymaster|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;purple&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Berr&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;yma&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ster&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]|[[User_talk:Berrymaster|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]|[[Special:Contributions/Berrymaster|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;silver&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Contrib&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;}→ 01:24, 16 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Moves only count as signature moves if only one Pokémon are one evolution family can learn them. Besides, Hitmonchan and Scyther aren&#039;t the only 2 Pokémon that can legitimatelly have Vacuum Wave. About 30 others can learn it from the {{game3|Platinum|Platinum|}} [[move tutor|tutor]]. --[[user:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF4500;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Baby G]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[user talk:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D1E231;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk to me]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B87333;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;see my edits]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:01, 17 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Well, that brings up a similar issue... moves that can be learned other than level-up by many, but level-only for a few. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:06, 17 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I used to think that level up was all that counted, but about a month ago, Kenji-girl said that other methods ({{pkmn|breeding}}, [[TM]]s, etc.) do count when it comes to signature moves. So Vacuum Wave has actually never been Hitmonchan&#039;s signature move, since several others could learn it by breeding before Platinum. --[[user:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF4500;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Baby G]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[user talk:Baby G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D1E231;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk to me]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B87333;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;see my edits]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:48, 17 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Transform? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why signature move of {{p|Ditto}} and {{p|Mew}} is the {{m|Transform}} (which is written), a {{m|Fly}} isn&#039;t a signature move of {{p|Salamence}} and {{p|Rayquaza}}. [[User:Era64|Era64]] 11:29, 19 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, for Ditto at least, Transform is its &#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039; move. Mew just has that &amp;quot;DNA of all Pokémon in it&amp;quot; deal that lets him transform.&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;- &#039;&#039;unsigned comment from [[User:Phred|Phred]] ([[User talk:Phred|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Phred|contribs]]){{ #if:  | &amp;amp;#32;{{{2}}} |}}&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::But it&#039;s not a signature move, since more than one Pokémon learns it by level, and Mew and Ditto aren&#039;t in an evolution family. --[[user:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Cho]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[user talk:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;col]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[special:contributions/chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ate]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 20:31, 20 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It&#039;s still a &#039;&#039;small group&#039;&#039; of Pokemon. So it&#039;s limited to who can learn it. Also once again I think this needs to be split into generations. [[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B7AD96;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESH&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User_talk:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B7AD96;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;IGIGAS&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 20:55, 20 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::But Kenji-girl said that signature moves are moves only learned by one Pokémon, or one evolution family. &amp;quot;Small groups&amp;quot; don&#039;t count unless they&#039;re in the same evolution family. Also, I&#039;ve been working on generation splitting for a while now, and I&#039;m almost done. --[[user:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Cho]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[user talk:chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;col]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[special:contributions/chocolate|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6D351A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ate]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 20:59, 20 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It does say at the beggining of the page that they &#039;&#039;can only be learned by a single Pokémon or a very small select group of Pokémon&#039;&#039;. So Mew and Transform should be on there. If it&#039;s like 3 Pokemon in different evolution families and it can be bred into others, then it isn&#039;t a signature move really. And thank you for splitting this into generations (when you&#039;re done!). [[User:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B7AD96;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TESH&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User_talk:Tesh|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#B7AD96;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;IGIGAS&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 21:11, 20 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Well, okay, maybe Transform isn&#039;t Mew&#039;s signature move, but it&#039;s surely Ditto&#039;s. I mean, it&#039;s the ONLY thing it can do. --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 23:50, 3 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Lucario==&lt;br /&gt;
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Aura Sphere----[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 17:47, 3 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No. Several others can use it as well. --[[User:Martonimos|((&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#008000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Marton&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Martonimos|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#50C878&amp;quot;&amp;gt;imos&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;))]] 23:53, 3 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::ya but some Pokémon can use other signature moves and pretty much every Lucario in the anime knows it,and I&#039;m not sure why Togekiss learns it all other Pokémon that learn it because their legendary I mean Chimchar gets Blaze Kick by breeding but it&#039;s still Blazikens move------[[user:Ultamatecharizard|AMERICAN ELECTION TODAY!]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Sigh....This is because {{p|Blaziken}} was the only one that could learn it until Gen IV... [[User:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D5AA00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;ht&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C0C0C0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;14&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 19:13, 4 November 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: Lucario is no more Legendary than Togekiss. Not even more rare. --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 07:26, 6 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Stop Removing Relicanth, Cranidos, Rampardos, and Mothim ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I quote, from the top of the page: &amp;quot;Signature moves are moves that can only be learned by a single Pokémon &#039;&#039;&#039;or a very small select group of Pokémon by level-up&#039;&#039;&#039; (with the exception of Pikachu&#039;s Volt Tackle), usually in the same evolutionary line.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
So stop removing it, ok? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 20:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t understand the idea behind &amp;quot;signature moves&amp;quot; in many evolutionary lines. Okay then, add there every other move that is in very few movepools. You, go then add Hoppip&#039;s Splash in Gen II (there was IIRC only Hoppip and Magikarp back then), Rayquaza&#039;s Extremespeed in Gen III and &#039;&#039;&#039;every friggin other move that is in 2 or 3 movepools&#039;&#039;&#039;, okay? Happy hunting, though it won&#039;t change my mind about the fact that the introduction there is &#039;&#039;&#039;wrong&#039;&#039;&#039;. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3fff00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;UltimateSephiroth&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;about me&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chat&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:15, 16 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Maybe they should be there; I&#039;m personally too lazy to hunt them, and would rather either A) Keep it like it is, or B) get the intro changed, which is what you should do if you think its wrong. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 20:18, 16 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;d do the B) if I could, but I can&#039;t be sure which way (one family or few families) is more common among players and therefore my edit would be opinionated. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3fff00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;UltimateSephiroth&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;about me&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chat&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:22, 16 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I don&#039;t know where the small group of Pokémon came from. That wasn&#039;t my idea of a signature move when I created this page. Maybe if the Pokémon were physically alike it would be okay. But Relicanth, Cranidos, and Mothim have nothing in common. Two different families should be the max if at all. Definitely not three. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 22:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It is two families: Relicanth and Cranidos for Head something or other; Mothim&#039;s being removed for a different move, Camoflouge or however its spelled. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 22:15, 16 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Either way, either Relicanth needs to be added because it also knows Head Smash (and is more adept at using it due to Rock Head) or Cranidos/Ramparados need to be removed.--[[User:JacobCrystal|JacobCrystal]] 16:15, 4 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==This page is in need of SERIOUS clean-up.==&lt;br /&gt;
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Some moves are counted as signature when they&#039;re limited to one Pokémon. Some are counted when they&#039;re limited to two Pokémon. Some three Pokémon. Where&#039;s the limit? I think two families should be the most.(Branched families are fine.) I&#039;d prefer only one family, but I&#039;ll accept anything, just agree on something.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some moves are counted as &amp;quot;signature&amp;quot; if they&#039;re limited to one(or a few) Pokémon NATURALLY...other moves are counted if they&#039;re limited OVERALL. I think that TMs/HMs/tutors/&amp;quot;bonus&amp;quot; moves should not matter, Waterfall is still Goldeen and Seaking&#039;s signature move. I&#039;d accept the other way too, but it needs to be CONSISTENT.&lt;br /&gt;
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Not to mention a few of the asterisks are wrong...and some without asterisks could use some. Or it could be split to generations, but I think asterisks work just fine.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Pikachu that knows Volt Tackle doesn&#039;t need to be in the one-off section. Yes, it&#039;s only Pichu&#039;s signature move...but Pikachus can normally learn it by evolving from Pichu! Pikachu shouldn&#039;t be in the table, that is correct, but it doesn&#039;t need to be in the one-off either. That should be for examples that COULD NOT happen otherwise, like the Dratini with ExtremeSpeed.[[User:Flint A|Flint A]] 20:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:My opinion is that if a move can be learned by any or all of the Pokémon of &#039;&#039;&#039;one&#039;&#039;&#039; family naturally or by TM, it is a signature move. If a move is shared with an other family or it is a TM that can be used or a move tutor move that can be taught on more than the family in question, it is not a signature move. Event Pokémon are obviously excluded. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3fff00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;UltimateSephiroth&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt; &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;about me&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#3f7f00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chat&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:48, 20 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::That sounds fine to me, a more &amp;quot;exclusive&amp;quot; definition of signature move. Although if something was a signature move at one point, I&#039;d expect it there with an asterisk. The most important thing is that a definition is made. &amp;quot;More is lost by indecision than by wrong decision.&amp;quot;[[User:Flint A|Flint A]] 11:03, 21 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==GrassWhistle==&lt;br /&gt;
In GenerationIII, Roselia was the only one who could learn GrassWhistle by leveling up(to lv 29). There are many other pokemon that can learn it now in Generation IV, but it used to be a move unique only to Roselia(by level up). --[[User:PKFL 531|PKFL 531]] 01:38, 30 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Removing moves==&lt;br /&gt;
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Before I edit the actual page, I want to see if everyone agrees to this. &lt;br /&gt;
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I was thinking of removing the following moves since they&#039;re &amp;quot;Signature&amp;quot; titles are questionable:&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Petal Dance}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Crush Claw}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Splash}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Super Fang}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Beat Up}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Pain Split}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|FeatherDance}} &lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Assist}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|ExtremeSpeed}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Weather Ball}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Extrasensory}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Megahorn}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Waterfall}}&lt;br /&gt;
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-{{m|Leaf Blade}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes yes, I know that&#039;s quite a lot of moves to pick out. But let&#039;s be honest, These moves are a little too common to be &amp;quot;Signature&amp;quot; thanks to other Pokémon showing up or Pokémon learning said moves via Breeding, Level up, Move tutor, TM/HM etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you don&#039;t agree with this, I&#039;ll ignore this. Or if you want only a specific move or two gone, I&#039;ll only get rid of those instead.&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;- &#039;&#039;unsigned comment from {{u|Ninterror}} ([[User talk:Ninterror|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ninterror|contribs]]) &#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Personally, I think it might be better to either do away with this article, or sort in into 4 articles, one for each generaton [[User:RB Golbat|RB Golbat]] 20:37, 30 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree with the idea of splitting them up as these moves were all once signature moves. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:53, 31 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Why make a whole other article? It says in the asterisk that it was &amp;quot;Prior to Generation X&amp;quot;. Just leave it as it is. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 02:46, 31 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Many of those moves are already noted as being signature moves prior to a Generation, as the person above said. However, Beat Up, Crush Claw, Pain Split, Feather Dance, Assist and Extrasensory, are different. They&#039;re signature moves in that only a select few Pokémon learn &#039;&#039;by level up&#039;&#039;, but can be taught in other ways. In the &amp;quot;Other signature move examples&amp;quot; section, such things are noted, where a move is learned by more than one Pokémon but only by one by level up. I say we move the mentioned moves to a whole new section for &amp;quot;Level Up Signature Moves&amp;quot;, where we list the signature moves if we go by moves learned through level and not by tutor or TM or breeding. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 05:32, 31 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Blast Burn, Frenzy Plant and Hydro Cannon ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I would just like to say that I have finally added the elemental hyper beams to the bottom of the page. Feel free to delete it if you like, but I do think that this edit would help the bulbapedia community.  ----&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GEN&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;1&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;[[User:Example|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;KING&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;([[User talk:&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]])&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 06:12, 14 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I would disagree here.  The signature moves of Charizard, Venusaur, and Blastoise have always been and will always be Flamethrower, SolarBeam, and Hydro Pump, respectively. SSBB even confirms that Charizard&#039;s signature move is Flamethrower (not Blast Burn). [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 18:13, 19 November 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::In most cases I would agree with you, but by the definition f signature move on Bulbapedia, that is extremely inacurate. Though true in a certain sense, Blastoise is not the only pokémon to learn Hydro Pump, and same goes for the rest. Also, no offense, but Super Smash Bros. Trophies are not exactly the most reliable source for canon information :p  --[[User:Gen1king|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;GEN&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]1[[User talk:Gen1king|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;KING&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 06:50, 28 January 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Former Signature moves! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We should have a section for Pokémon who&#039;s moves used to be signature moves, instead of keeping them with the other Pokémon. --Kimori Geckarbor Hinoarashi 13:48, 12 December 2009 (UTC) [[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|User talk:Kimori-Hinoarashi]] &amp;quot;I reject your reality, and substitute my own.&amp;quot; - Adam Savage, after being proven wrong.--&#039;&#039;Mythbusters&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Overhaul ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Alright, I went for it and changed the main body to only refer to Generation IV signature moves. The list of former signature moves near the bottom might be better as some sort of table, but I&#039;m not good at making tables and it wouldn&#039;t be like just copying the first table, as we&#039;d need &amp;quot;unsignature&amp;quot; dates. Also, that list should not be considered comprehensive; it&#039;s just the ones that were there already plus the ones from the old list. There might be some missing.&lt;br /&gt;
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The only controversial change I think is that I specifically limited signature moves to one evolutionary family only, but I seem to see quite a bit of support for that on the talk page and I feel it&#039;s the only sensible decision myself.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Yoshi348|Yoshi348]] 20:04, 8 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:just because you &amp;quot;see the support&amp;quot; doesnt mean you just do it, you dont have that power. it has to be definitively discussed for sure. i have undone your edits, but barring a proper definitive discussion, it can be re-added. i want to see what people think in an uncluttered manor. i personally dont see a huge problem in your way, but i also think we can find a better, cleaner layout than yours. -- &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAG&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#696969;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 20:16, 8 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Phantom asterisk ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Pokemon that had their signature moves learned by other Pokemon with the coming of a new generation were marked with an asterisk. There wasn&#039;t a note at the bottom saying what the asterisk was for, but rather one of those things you highlight (dunno what that&#039;s called). We should at least have a note in addition to it. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 00:00, 10 May 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Arcanine&#039;s ExtremeSpeed. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Shouldn&#039;t it say &amp;quot;Prior to Generation II&amp;quot;? It currently says &amp;quot;Prior to generation III&amp;quot;. --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 16:10, 4 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No, it was Arcanine&#039;s sig move prior to gen II, that is, before gen II. Extremespeed didn&#039;t exist prior to gen II {{unsigned|Malake256}}&lt;br /&gt;
:: Right. I forgot the distinction between Crystal and Gen. II. It was unique to Arcanine &amp;quot;Prior to Crystal&amp;quot;. --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 07:19, 6 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Metronome==&lt;br /&gt;
Signature moves can be moved by any pokemon knowing [[Metronome]]. My [[Togepi]] used metronome, and used [[Doom Desire]]! [[User:Panther2598|Panther2598]]&lt;br /&gt;
thats kind of obvious i mean metronome uses a random move from every move existing in a generation and they never said that they couldn&#039;t be used they just said that they can&#039;t be learned [[User:Juarmo|Juarmo]] 05:06, 11 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Oath of Fire, Water and Grass ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do you think we should add that?-[[User talk:444Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:brown&amp;quot;&amp;gt;444&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:444Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Z&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Zekrom|ekrom]] 04:23, 03 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:We should wait until the games are released. For all we know, they could be used by the other starters similar to the elemental Hyper Beams. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 07:18, 3 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Blast Burn, Frenzy Plant, and Hydro Cannon again ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In Generation III, since Charizard, Venusaur, and Blastoise are the only ones who could learn those techniques, they are considered signature moves in that sense yes? So shouldn&#039;t they be added to the list and mentioned on the respective moves articles?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 05:32, 11 September 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ll take it. [[Move tutor]]?--[[User talk:444Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:brown&amp;quot;&amp;gt;444&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:444Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Z&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ekrom&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 10:15, 4 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::They were only the only ones to learn those moves until [[Pokemon XD]] came out, which is still third-gen. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 10:23, 4 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Hmm... Prior to XD? Hahaha...--[[User talk:444Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:brown&amp;quot;&amp;gt;444&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:444Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Z&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Zekrom|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ekrom&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 07:43, 5 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I think it&#039;s better not to take XD in consideration, because that game has distributed multiple signature moves, like Psycho Boost or Extrasensory. So I would say prior to generation IV--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 10:40, 18 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;prior to gen ...&amp;quot; signature moves ==&lt;br /&gt;
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If, according to te article, Signature moves are by definition only learned by either a single Pokémon or a small group of Pokémon, then a lot of the moves listed that say they were signature moves prior to a certain generation were still signature moves, (in cases such as extemespeed, for at least until the generation after) as the definition in no way implies that the pokémon that can learn it have to be related by evolution it just states either that the move can be learned only as a level up move and even then, only by a small number of Pokémon or that the move can only be learned by level up by a small number of pokémon (in which case almost all, if not all are still signature moves). because even though the way the definition is phrased it can be rephrased either way it most certainly can&#039;t be rephrased both ways because they are different from meanings from eachother but are synonyms to different definitions of the phrase that defines signature moves. [[User:Juarmo|Juarmo]] 05:07, 11 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ultimate Starter Type Moves==&lt;br /&gt;
techinically, the elemental hyper beams would be no less signature moves of the gen 1 starter evolutions in gen 3 than deoxys and its psycho boost (as purified shadow Lugia knew it). In fact, probably less of one as you catch the Lugia but you recieve the XD Jhoto starters from an event (albeit an in game one but still) also if Oddish and Glooms signature that ceased to be a signature by Gen 2 is on the list shouldn&#039;t arcanine and his extremespeed be on the list too. if i remember correctly dragon&#039;s den dratini didn&#039;t count towards extremespeed not still being arcanine&#039;s signature move in gen 2 so why should the XD Jhoto starters they&#039;re both in game events. [[User:Juarmo|Juarmo]] 23:28, 11 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Shadow Signature Moves ==&lt;br /&gt;
I think it should be noted that {{m|Shadow Bolt}}, {{m|Shadow Chill}}, {{m|Shadow Fire}} and {{m|Shadow Blast}} are {{p|Zapdos}}, {{p|Articuno}}, {{p|Moltres}} and [[Shadow Lugia]] Signature Moves in Pokémon XD. --[[User:Crikko|&#039;&#039;&#039;★&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6699FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Cri&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ққ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6699FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ѳ~&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;*&#039;&#039;&#039;]] 16:52, 13 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Clamp was another one of the Shellder line&#039;s signature moves... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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...Until Gen III that is. Could somebody add this? - [[User:050294|050294]] 01:21, 18 October 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Another idea ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I had an idea for a new column. I would like to mention what kind of signature move they are. &lt;br /&gt;
*Exclusive means: Only available to the poke himself, or the evolutionary line of that poke.&lt;br /&gt;
*Limited means: A few other pokes can learn it as well by leveling up or by breeding.&lt;br /&gt;
*LU exclusive means: The move is exclusive to a certain poke line by leveling up, but several other pokes can learn it by breading or tutoring.&lt;br /&gt;
*Common means: The move is now available to a plenty of pokes. Only mentioned if the move used to be exclusive.&lt;br /&gt;
*N/A means: it didn&#039;t exist that gen.&lt;br /&gt;
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! [[List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number|#]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! Name&lt;br /&gt;
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! Gen I&lt;br /&gt;
! Gen II&lt;br /&gt;
! Gen III&lt;br /&gt;
! Gen IV&lt;br /&gt;
! Gen V&lt;br /&gt;
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| {{MSP|015|Beedrill}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{P|Beedrill}}&lt;br /&gt;
| {{M|Twineedle}} &lt;br /&gt;
| Exclusive &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; Lv. 20&lt;br /&gt;
| Exclusive &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; lv. 20&lt;br /&gt;
| Exclusive &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; lv. 20&lt;br /&gt;
| Exclusive &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; lv. 16&lt;br /&gt;
| Limited &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; lv. 16&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 10:40, 18 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Limited would not be implemented; signature move means it is limited to an individual or family, so those are former signature moves. Level up exclusive is possible, but I don&#039;t think it should be implemented. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 11:24, 18 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Levels ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s not clear from which game the levels are. I also don&#039;t see the point of noting the levels.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 10:41, 25 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Victini ==&lt;br /&gt;
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for the 14th Movie it was said that an event Victini would be given out have the move V-Generate and Ball of Fire, as V-Generate is currently a move only an event Victini can know, should it be put in the &#039;one-off signature moves&#039; section? [[User:Azure42|Azure42]] 15:38, 31 December 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== My definition of &#039;Signature Move&#039; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I say the definition should be &amp;quot;A move that a Pokémon is best known for.&amp;quot; As a result, this means that a move that is common can be the signature move of another Pokémon (for example, Rollout can be learned by several different kinds of Pokémon, but Geodude&#039;s evolutionary family may have it as their signature move, because Graveler is said to use it often down mountains in Firered&#039;s description of it). Another example is Psycho Cut - Gallade would most likely have the attack as its signature move had this description of signature move been used. --[[User:Psyblade|Psyblade]] 18:43, 27 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think it&#039;s a very good point, however, Pokédex entries sometimes state misleading facts, such as Dusclops learning {{m|Hypnosis}}, which it actually can&#039;t. So, although a good definition of &amp;quot;signature move&amp;quot;, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s good enough to point Pokédex entries in the article. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;h&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;fc&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008800&amp;quot;&amp;gt;X&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 23:59, 27 January 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia?==&lt;br /&gt;
The trivia says, that Vespiquen is the only Pokémon with 3 signature moves, while the same is true for Kyurem (as the table says). Shouldn&#039;t it be edited? --[[User:KingisNitro|KingisNitro]] 08:46, 7 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, because Kyurem can&#039;t actually learn Ice Burn or Freeze Shock. They are speculated to be its signature moves. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 08:58, 7 May 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Cubone and Marowak==&lt;br /&gt;
Both of these are only listed under Former Signature Moves, however both have two current signature moves. Bone Rush, out. Bone Club and Bonemerang, good. So why aren&#039;t Cubone and Marowak under the current signature moves? [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 01:10, 13 July 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Current definition is SERIOUSLY flawed! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The current definition of signature move here is &#039;&#039;&#039;seriously&#039;&#039;&#039; flawed.  The definition should be the move the Pokémon is most known for, not any random move that is exclusive to it.  While at times moves that a Pokémon is most known for may also be exclusive to it (such as Smeargle&#039;s Sketch), that is not always the case.  For example, even though Charizard was the only Pokémon able to learn Blast Burn prior to XD, Charizard is never shown using it in any Pokémon media; usually Charizard is shown using Flamethrower, and in the anime, Seismic Toss.  Furthermore, Charizard is a Gen I Pokémon, and it is absurd to say that a Gen III move is its signature move, considering Charizard predates Gen III.&lt;br /&gt;
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I really think the definition should be corrected here. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 00:05, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t think it&#039;s flawed at all. A signature move exclusive to that Pokémon. Meaning that the move can only be learned by that Pokémon. While Rollout is well know for a Miltank for example that doesn&#039;t make it a signature move. Sketch is a signature move because only one Pokémon can learn it and that is Smergle. This was discussed before. [[User:Pokemaster97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;--Pokemaster&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;97&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:09, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Random move? How is it a random move when it&#039;s &#039;&#039;&#039;a move that can only be learned by a single Pokémon or its family&#039;&#039;&#039;? Just because a certain move is showed off more by a certain Pokémon does not mean it&#039;s its signature. Signature refers to a Pokémon&#039;s exclusive move which means it can only be learned by a certain Pokémon or at a certain time.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Your definition seems to be judged by what you have seen in the anime which is biased to all other media. All things should relate to the game which are used universally. Might as well say BubbleBeam is Piplup&#039;s signature move and Thunderbolt is Pikachu&#039;s. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:18, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::What about Ditto&#039;s Transform, which is obviously Ditto&#039;s signature move because it is Ditto&#039;s ONLY move, despite the fact that Mew can learn Transform as well?  The fact is, Charizard is never shown using Blast Burn in the anime or any other Pokémon media besides the main games.  Also, consider that Blast Burn is a tutored move, not a level-up move. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 00:46, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Plus, SSB confirms Flamethrower as Charizard&#039;s signature move. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 00:54, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Leveling up has nothing to do with it. Volt Tackle is an egg move that is bred on to Pichu. There&#039;s also Meloetta who can only learn its signature move through tutoring. And again, the amount of times the move is shown in the anime has nothing to do with it. In the defense of Transform, Mew has the capability of learning every move through the move tutor in XD from Generation III and below. Though I&#039;ll give you that Mew can learn that one by level up. Not to mention that it&#039;s Ditto&#039;s only move. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 01:03, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Also, SSB is not a true Pokémon game to be taking sources from... It&#039;s Charizard signature move in that game, not in the Pokémon games. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 01:03, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::So, could you tell me what was Charizard&#039;s signature move in Gens I and II? The definition of the word &amp;quot;signature&amp;quot; does not mean &amp;quot;exclusive&amp;quot;, it means what the Pokémon is most notable for. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 06:27, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Another example: Take a look at Vaporeon and Jolteon.  Obviously their signature moves are Acid Armor and Pin Missile, respectively, as confirmed by their Pokédex entries.  However, even in Gen I, Grimer and Muk were able to learn Acid Armor as well, and Beedrill was able to learn Pin Missile. If those aren&#039;t Vaporeon&#039;s and Jolteon&#039;s signature moves, I don&#039;t know what else can be. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 06:31, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::See... the thing is Flamethrower can be other Pokémon&#039;s most known move. Every single Fire-type can learn it in some way. It&#039;s not so signature when so many other Pokémon can use it too. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::::None of Vaporeon&#039;s and Jolteon&#039;s Pokédex entries say that Acid Armor and Pin Missile are their signature moves. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 06:47, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::While they don&#039;t mention the moves by name, they mention that Vaporeon can melt into water, and that Jolteon can raise its fur to pierce foes. That implies Acid Armor and Pin Missile, respectively. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 15:20, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
I think you&#039;re not understanding here. Not all Pokémon have signature moves. A signature move is a move only that Pokémon or it&#039;s family can learn. Examples: Meowth {{m|Pay Day}} Chansey and Blissy {{m|Softboiled}}, The Porygon family {{m|Conversion}} and {{m|Conversion 2}}. This is what a signature move is. Your argument is incorrect. [[User:Pokemaster97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;--Pokemaster&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;97&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 15:26, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, that is your own interpretation of a signature move, which is clearly defective for the reasons I gave above. Unless we find an official source confirming your interpretation is correct, it is nothing but a fan implication. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 18:16, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Your last comment applies equally to your own definition. I suggest you take a step back and calm down. Also, [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/signature?rdfrom=Signature#Adjective signature, used as an adjective] implies distinctiveness, not commonness. Thus, the current definition is correct to the meaning of the word, so you will need very strong official evidence in order for it to change. &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:17, 10 August 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I don&#039;t feel like the definition is flawed, but maybe an allowance for Ditto would be nice. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 15:52, 10 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== {{p|Clefairy}} and {{m|Meteor Mash}} ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t understand this. In the [[Signature move#Other signature move examples|Other signature move examples]] section, it says: &amp;quot;Although {{p|Clefairy}} can learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Meteor Mash}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up in any Generation III game, the only Pokémon that were able to learn it legally before release of {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}} were {{p|Metang}} and its evolved form, {{p|Metagross}}.&amp;quot; However, the {{p|Metang}}, {{m|Meteor Mash}}, and {{p|Clefairy}} articles don&#039;t make any mention of this, and the sentence itself doesn&#039;t make any sense. --[[User:Enervation|Enervation]] 23:43, 10 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s saying that since you couldn&#039;t get Clefairy until FRLG came out, despite that Clefairy can learn Meteor Mash in RS, Clefairy couldn&#039;t because there weren&#039;t any Clefairy in RS. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 00:38, 11 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New design ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m REALLY liking the new template, but I think it could use a little more organization. Like, either we organize them by number (the only ones not by number are the ones grouped with their cross-generational evolutions), or by the generation in which they gained their signature move (then by number). I&#039;m not sure...what does everyone think? &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:LimeGreenCharizard|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;LimeGreen&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;[[User talk:LimeGreenCharizard|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF8C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Charizard&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Special:Contributions/LimeGreenCharizard|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00BFFF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;♂&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 16:35, 12 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree it should be done by Ndex number. It&#039;s too jumbled and a little confusing as it is. If someone wanted to look for Pikachu, they have to go down to Pichu, and that&#039;s just sloppy. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;★&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jo The Marten|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Jo the Marten&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Flygon (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;★&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ಠ_ಠ&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Cilan (anime)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#90C870;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;♥&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 16:43, 12 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah I agree with what was said above. It is kind of confusing. Ndex would be a little more organized. [[User:Pokemaster97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;--Pokemaster&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:Blue;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;97&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 16:45, 12 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::How about making the columns sortable? Also the Pikachu line&#039;s placement was something I forgot to fix, so I&#039;ll move them to 025. [[User:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#d0000d&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;chiller&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pikiwyn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;black&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;]] 16:57, 12 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Sortable sounds fine to me. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;★&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jo The Marten|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Jo the Marten&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[Flygon (Pokémon)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;★&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C00;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ಠ_ಠ&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Cilan (anime)|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#90C870;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;♥&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 17:01, 12 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== V-create still a signature move? ==&lt;br /&gt;
Now that {{p|Rayquaza}} knows {{m|V-create}} via event (the same way that Victini learns it), is V-create still Victini&#039;s signature move, is it both Victini&#039;s and Rayquaza&#039;s, or is it not a signature move at all? Personally, I&#039;d remove it from the list for now, since now it&#039;s a one-off move for both Victini &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; Rayquaza. --[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:35, 20 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You make a lot of sense, and I&#039;d certainly wait for more people to weigh in.  However, I think that the name of V-Create certainly points it to it being a signature move of Victini, since many things about Victini are closely associated with the letter &#039;&#039;V&#039;&#039;.  There isn&#039;t really a set standard to which we can hold a &amp;quot;signature move,&amp;quot; so I think claiming its status as &amp;quot;debatable&amp;quot; is appropriate.  --[[User:Politoed666|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00B7EB&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;P&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#008080&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;o&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Politoed666|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0095B6&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;L&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00CCCC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;i&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 20:27, 20 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::There&#039;s a bunch a moves on the list that are like that. Why change it now? Personally, I don&#039;t think we should change the status of a signature move just because of an event. They do that all the time. Like the Victini from the movie with Zekrom and Reshiram&#039;s moves and the Lugia from XD with Deoxys&#039;s move. Rayquaza cannot normally get that move and unless it is normal, then we shouldn&#039;t worry about it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:22, 21 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Just realized V-create is the move Victini only knows by event as well. Just still, to me it was obviously made for it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:24, 21 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Agreed - V-create was made for Victini (and I think that I made that clear on the page), but neither Victini nor Rayquaza can learn it through normal gameplay (both of them learn it via event). As for it being a signature move because it was made for Victini, I think {{m|Megahorn}} presents a similar case (though not to the same degree). It was made for {{p|Heracross}} in Generation II (why else would a generic horn attack be Bug-type?) until they made all sorts of other Pokémon, both old and new, able to learn it in future generations. Now, V-create is much more &amp;quot;characteristic&amp;quot; of Victini and probably won&#039;t become a widespread move, but having aesthetics and themes associated with a certain Pokémon doesn&#039;t seem like a criterion for being a signature move at the moment according to the page&#039;s description (we can always change it though). [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 04:15, 21 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: I personally don&#039;t feel it applies to what the meaning of signature move is as it says it can be learned by level up &#039;&#039;&#039;or other means&#039;&#039;&#039;. Think of it this way. If Relic Song is given by event to another Pokémon, say Cresselia, does that mean it&#039;s not Meloetta&#039;s signature move anymore because it doesn&#039;t learn it by level up even though that&#039;s what changes its form? Some common sense should be used in these instead of following the definition so strictly. If the Pokémon itself has an obvious connection to the move we should take that into consideration. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:35, 24 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Which is why I had to revert Darthrai and MisterE13--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 00:37, 24 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Actually, it&#039;s not as simple as that. The thing is, Meloetta can learn Relic Song via tutor; if the same tutor could be used to teach it to Cresselia, I wouldn&#039;t personally consider it Meloetta&#039;s signature move anymore (since they can both obtain the move on &#039;&#039;equally&#039;&#039; favorable terms). However, if Cresselia got the move via event, I&#039;d still personally consider it Meloetta&#039;s signature move, since Meloetta obtains it on &#039;&#039;more&#039;&#039; favorable terms. Right now, Victini and Rayquaza both know V-create on &#039;&#039;equally&#039;&#039; favorable terms (a one-off move for both Pokémon); however, you&#039;re right that we should consider if the Pokémon has an obvious connection to the move, so we should make that clear. (In Relic Song&#039;s case, it helps that, unlike V-create, it doesn&#039;t scream &amp;quot;THIS MOVE BELONGS TO MELOETTA&amp;quot;.) [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:05, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You&#039;re still not making any sense.  Relic Song is Meloetta&#039;s, and V-create is Victini&#039;s.  Roar of Time and Spacial Rend are Dialga and Palkia&#039;s respectively despite movie 10 Dialga and movie 12 Arceus.  Please stop dragging this--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 19:08, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::And Dialga and Palkia know Roar of Time and Spacial Rend via level-up, whereas Darkrai and Arceus only know it via event. It&#039;s not the same. Still, the current definition and status is good, I just think it&#039;s worth noting that Rayquaza and Victini both get V-create through similar methods despite it being Victini&#039;s signature move. I don&#039;t think this has ever happened before, especially since event-exclusive moves only debuted this generation.[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:19, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It is very much the same. Darkrai and Arceus learn it by equal means... Please stop. V-Create is Victini&#039;s signature move and happens to lend it to Rayquaza ONCE. Doesn&#039;t mean V-Create isn&#039;t Victini&#039;s signature movI&#039;d also like to point out&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Also, some of these moves can be passed down via breeding to other Pokémon &#039;&#039;&#039;or are known by certain event Pokémon&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;. Case closed. --[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 19:21, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Sure, but if we go a long time without this kind of thing happening again (&#039;&#039;event-exclusive&#039;&#039; signature moves being known by both the Pokémon they&#039;re intended for and another Pokémon &#039;&#039;on equal terms&#039;&#039;), maybe the issue can be revisited.[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:31, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::It doesn&#039;t have to be revisited. Leave it alone. Admins have already spoken on the matter and say to leave it alone--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 19:33, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: I meant like several years or when Gen VI comes around with more event-exclusive moves. When I said &amp;quot;a long time&amp;quot;, I meant &amp;quot;a long time&amp;quot; and that I don&#039;t think it&#039;s worth starting any further arguments at this point in Pokémon event history (so I&#039;m leaving it alone) Oh well, in any case it&#039;s just one minor piece of stating the obvious about one event, I shouldn&#039;t have made a big deal about it.--[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:34, 29 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::By the definition of signature move, V-create is not Victini&#039;s signature move. However, it is a move that is associated with Victini. So based on Victini&#039;s associations with the move, you could say that it is its &amp;quot;signature move&amp;quot;, but that is not the definition of signature move. To keep the definition firm, we cannot consider it to be Victini&#039;s signature move unless it learns it via a method other than event, like how we didn&#039;t consider it Victini&#039;s signature move until it was distributed with it. So what should happen is this; V-create should not be listed as a signature move of Victini, but it should most certainly be listed under &amp;quot;Other signature move examples&amp;quot;. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 14:54, 30 January 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Can I suggest that, perhaps, V-Create isn&#039;t a Signature Move, so much as an Event Move? It&#039;s a move that cannot be known by any pokemon except perhaps via an Event, at least at a certain point. Another example would be Volt Tackle, which, until the release of Pokemon Emerald, couldn&#039;t be learned by any pokemon, or Kinesis, which couldn&#039;t be learned by any pokemon until Pokemon Yellow. Note that an &amp;quot;Event Move&amp;quot; wouldn&#039;t necessarily have been released via Event, it&#039;s just that, without an event, it would be unavailable up to a certain time (this could include moves only found as egg moves up to a certain point, if any exist). And on a side note, if a pokemon uses Metronome, and then Smeargle Sketches it, will it learn Metronome, or the resulting move? I ask because, if Smeargle sketches the metronomed move, then it would be possible for it to sketch Volt Tackle in RS/FRLG, or V-Create in DP. [[User:Aielyn|Aielyn]] 15:19, 1 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Another example of an Event move is a little more literal than the others - Snarl. At this time, it is only available through obtaining an Event Zoroark, and then breeding it to other pokemon from there. However, once another event, the Lock Capsule, is made available, it will be available as a TM... but still, it&#039;s an Event Move, since you need an event to access it in either case. [[User:Aielyn|Aielyn]] 06:56, 2 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Those are more &amp;quot;delayed release moves&amp;quot; than &amp;quot;event&amp;quot; moves. And I don&#039;t think it is really that relevant (by your definition, {{m|Kinesis}} is both a signature move and an &amp;quot;event move&amp;quot;). And to answer your question, Smeargle will Sketch Metronome. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 12:48, 2 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Isn&#039;t &amp;quot;delayed release&amp;quot; just another word for &amp;quot;event&amp;quot;, in this context? After all, you can catch Mew in Emerald, but you can&#039;t do so until a delayed release event. When Ruby/Sapphire were released, one couldn&#039;t legitimately get Volt Tackle. Not knowing how they&#039;d give you access to the move, wouldn&#039;t it be reasonable to consider it an event-exclusive move? That the &amp;quot;event&amp;quot; ended up being &amp;quot;the release of Emerald&amp;quot; is irrelevant to this point. And yes, Kinesis would be both an event move and a signature move - nothing wrong with that. It was an event move in Red/Blue, and then a signature move after that. Volt Tackle was an event move in RS/FRLG, and a signature move after that. V-Create is currently an event move. It may happen that, with the &amp;quot;third version&amp;quot; release, Victini will be able to learn V-Create by move tutor or level up, in which case it would be a signature move. Until the move can be &amp;quot;learned&amp;quot;, it really can&#039;t be called a signature move. It is &#039;&#039;speculated&#039;&#039; that the move was made for Victini, but it&#039;s only speculation, it hasn&#039;t been confirmed. It&#039;s entirely possible that, come the next pokemon game, it will be Rayquaza that learns it naturally, and not Victini... would that make it a Rayquaza signature move? [[User:Aielyn|Aielyn]] 04:37, 3 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The reason I used &amp;quot;delayed release&amp;quot; over &amp;quot;event&amp;quot; is because event specifically refers to things only available via event distributions, which is not true of things like Kinesis and Volt Tackle. It is unreasonable to assume a move is an event move if it has not been released yet—those are &amp;quot;unreleased moves&amp;quot; ({{m|Sacred Sword}} and {{m|Relic Song}} of course are exceptions due to being triggered by events, and {{m|Snarl}} was as well before it was available due to the event TM). However, I&#039;m not really sure how this &amp;quot;event move&amp;quot; argument is relevant here anyway. And Mew in Emerald is still event-exclusive. However, I agree with you that it is not currently a signature move, and that it may become one again in the next game. Also, I highly doubt Rayquaza will learn it outside of events if Victini doesn&#039;t—however, it is possible that if there is a move tutor, they would both be able to learn it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 10:03, 3 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::The relevance is that it gives an argument towards &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; including V-Create on this page. Indeed, I&#039;d argue that, even prior to the event Rayquaza, it was not a Signature Move, because the move was only available through an event, and thus couldn&#039;t be reliably associated with Victini, even if Victini was the only one that had gotten it. Let me give you a hypothetical analogy. Suppose that, during Gen III, an event occurred for FRLG, where you got a Voltorb that knows Volt Tackle. Would that make Volt Tackle a Voltorb signature move? I mean, it has &amp;quot;Volt&amp;quot; in it, and only Voltorb would have it. I&#039;d argue that, until the move is part of a pokemon&#039;s available moveset without an event, it cannot be a signature move. [[User:Aielyn|Aielyn]] 11:09, 3 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::In your hypothetical situation, I would argue that Volt Tackle would be Voltorb&#039;s signature move until another Pokémon could learn the move, with events always being ignored if there is another way for a Pokémon to learn it. However, since we agree about the way the page should be now and are merely debating hypotheticals, I don&#039;t think we need to continue this discussion unless someone argues for the inclusion of V-create. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 11:21, 3 February 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m sorry fellas but V-create actually is Victini&#039;s signature move!! Just not in Japan, because in that country Rayquaza can learn it. But this still means its Victini&#039;s signature move in the rest of the whole world!!! Just add V-create with a little star explaining its not a signature move anymore in Japan and we&#039;re done. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 14:28, 12 June 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==I&#039;m sorry...==&lt;br /&gt;
...but your definition of &amp;quot;signature move&amp;quot; is seriously flawed. Any definition of the term that doesn&#039;t allow Transform and Moonlight to be categorized as Ditto and Umbreon&#039;s respective signature moves is just wrong. So what if there were few other Pokémon who learned it in the generation it was introduced on? We&#039;re too worried about following rules and guidelines to the point that we&#039;re sacrificing common sense. Everyone considers Transform to Ditto&#039;s signature move despite Mew (who is only a event Pokémon and thus didn&#039;t even exist for the average player back in the Gen I days) learning it, too. And considering that Espeon&#039;s signature move is Morning Sun, it&#039;s obvious that the developers intended Moonlight to be considered the signature move of his counterpart, Umbreon. - [[User:Ericss|Ericss]] 17:53, 3 March 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I can see Ditto being an exception. But Umbereon and Moonlight? I never once thought of it being a signature move for Umbreon. And they only reason we consider it a signature for Espeon in Gen II is because it was the only Pokémon that could learn it.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Anyway, please look a few sections up to see the definition of &amp;quot;signature&amp;quot;. It means &#039;&#039;distinctive&#039;&#039;. It&#039;s not distinctive when other Pokémon can learn it too. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#33CC66;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ケンジ&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6600CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;の&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00CC;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ガール&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 05:44, 4 March 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Wouldn&#039;t that make Ditto a Signature Pokemon for Transform? [[User:Aielyn|Aielyn]] 09:25, 22 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::If another Pokémon can learn a move via level, TM or breeding it is not considered a signature move. A signature move must be a move only usable by one Pokémon (Mew can learn Transform and Clefairy, Oddish, Cresselia etc. can learn Moonlight).--[[User:Force Fire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#424B50&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;F&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#848A8D&amp;quot;&amp;gt;orce&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Force Fire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#E3CED0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;F&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#EDDFE0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ire&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 10:08, 22 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Oshawott and evolutions==&lt;br /&gt;
Shouldn&#039;t Razor Shell be Oshawott/Dewott/Samurott&#039;s signature moves? [[User:JacobTheDoduo|JacobTheDoduo]] 19:36, 21 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Shellder [[Razor Shell (move)#Learnset|also learns it by level]]. So no. &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;sc&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2D4B98;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Werdnae&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#009000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:55, 21 April 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Signature Move recovery ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, &amp;quot;Also, some of these moves can be passed down via breeding to other Pokémon or are known by certain event Pokémon.&amp;quot; Well how about Signature Move recovery? Sometimes there&#039;s only one Pokémon able to learn a move in that generation: Skarmory and Steel Wing for exemple, but because many Pokémon can learn it in a previous generation it isn&#039;t a Signature Move. This means that if TM 47 hadn&#039;t existed in gen 3 and 4 but in gen 5, Steel Wing would&#039;ve been Skarmory&#039;s Signature Move for two generations and it would&#039;ve lost this status in gen 5. But now its reversed and so it means Steel Wing isn&#039;t Skarmory&#039;s Signature Move in any generation!? I personally don&#039;t think so. And by the way Mega Kick is Hitmonlee&#039;s Signature Move, but there many Pokémon able to learn it in Firered and Leafgreen. So that&#039;s why Steel Wing (still for exemple) has to be Skarmory Signature Move. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 14:40, 12 June 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree. They have been added. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A70000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Snorlax&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000A7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Monster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 11:22, 16 June 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== One table more. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In &#039;Other signature move examples&#039; are many exemples of moves which only one evolutionary line can learn by leveling up, but can be learned by other Pokémon too via TM. Could we give those exemples their own table? Just like the one for the real signature moves. This would make the page a little more clear. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 19:42, 28 July 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Squirtle&#039;s evolutionary family and Sharpedo are the only Pokémon to learn Skull Bash by leveling up, but other Pokémon could learn it through TM40 in Generation I.&lt;br /&gt;
Sudowoodo is the only Pokémon to learn Mimic by leveling up in Generation II, but other Pokémon could learn it through TM31 in Generation I and Move Tutor in Generation III.&lt;br /&gt;
In Generations II, IV and V and Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire, Hitmonlee is the only Pokémon who can learn Mega Kick. However, in Generation I and Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen, others could learn it through TM and Move Tutor respectively.&lt;br /&gt;
Unown can learn only Hidden Power; however, almost every other Pokémon can learn it via TM10 in Generation II and beyond.&lt;br /&gt;
Although several Pokémon can learn it by TM, until Generation III only Diglett and Dugtrio could learn Dig by level up.&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to Generation V, Vigoroth is the only Pokémon to learn Focus Punch by leveling up, although many other Pokémon can learn it via TM01.&lt;br /&gt;
Porygon-Z is the only Pokémon to learn Trick Room by leveling up, although that move can be learned via TM92.&lt;br /&gt;
Almost every Pokémon is able to learn Facade via TM42. However, Chimchar is the only one to learn it by leveling up prior to Generation V.&lt;br /&gt;
Although only Panpour and its evolution are the only Pokémon to learn Scald by leveling up, other Pokémon can learn it via TM55.&lt;br /&gt;
Also, Pansage is currently the only Pokémon to learn Grass Knot by leveling up, yet other Pokémon can learn it via TM86.&lt;br /&gt;
Kadabra and Alakazam are the only Pokémon to learn Ally Switch by leveling up, but other Pokémon can learn it through TM51 in Generation V.&lt;br /&gt;
Sawk is the only Pokémon to learn Rock Smash by leveling up, but other Pokémon can learn it through TM94 in Generation V.&lt;br /&gt;
Emolga is the only Pokémon to learn Volt Switch by leveling up, but other Pokémon can learn it through TM72 in Generation V. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 19:47, 28 July 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Do skill swap and steel wing really count as signature moves? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think something should only be considered a signature more IF only one Pokémon or only the Pokémon from one evolutionary line can learn it since the beginning. But I wouldn&#039;t say that steel wing is really Skarmory&#039;s signature move since it was a TM earlier on. Yeah, it&#039;s no longer a TM, but that doesn&#039;t make it Skarmory&#039;s signature move all of a sudden.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also regarding skill swap, that&#039;s also a move that used to be a TM, so I wouldn&#039;t say it&#039;s a signature move either. What do you guys think? [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 15:18, 22 March 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Steel Wing is definitely a signature move, because even though it was a TM for several generations, Skarmory learned it by level up in all those generations as well, and was the &#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039; Pokemon to learn it by level up. If anything, I think it should be listed as Skarmory&#039;s signature move in Gen 2-5 instead of just 5. Skill Swap is a slightly trickier matter that will probably require a more refined definition of &amp;quot;signature move&amp;quot; to resolve satisfactorily one way or the other.&lt;br /&gt;
:Personally, I think we should refine the definition so that it doesn&#039;t matter if a plethora of Pokemon can learn a move by a &amp;quot;lower&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;less common&amp;quot; method (i.e. TMs, Move Tutors, events); as long as only one family can learn it by level up, that is its signature move. (And if nothing learns it by level up and only one thing learns it by another method, that&#039;s also a signature move, of course.) But that&#039;s just my opinion. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:01, 22 March 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::In that case would you say that {{m|return}} is {{p|Lopunny}}&#039;s signature move? Sure, that move was introduced long before Loponny was but Lopunny is the only Pokémon that learns it by level up. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 16:12, 22 March 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That&#039;s why I said Skill Swap (which is in the same boat) is a tricky matter. There should probably be a provision where widely/universally-available TMs like Return aren&#039;t signature moves unless the one Pokémon that learns it by level up has been able to learn it at least as long as the move has been a TM. On the other hand, something like Softboiled was obviously Chansey&#039;s signature move even in Gen 1, in which nothing learned it by level up and the TM was only learnable by Chansey and Mew (which, of course, can learn anything). Of course, those are both extremes on opposite sides of the spectrum, and examples that are somewhere in the middle (like Skill Swap) are more difficult to figure. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:24, 22 March 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A few things... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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First... Why don&#039;t egg moves disqualify a signature move? Due to them, moves like Present and Beat Up are VERY widespread, compared to moves like Softboiled and Needle Arm that get disqualified for very small numbers of other Pokemon.&lt;br /&gt;
Second... Why does Volt Tackle count as a Pikachu signature when it can&#039;t learn it by any means itself? (It can only get it by evolving a Pichu that knows it &amp;lt;which should also qualify Raichu and a bunch of other families&#039; Pokemon if this counts&amp;gt; or by events &amp;lt;which have been noted to generally not count&amp;gt;.)&lt;br /&gt;
Third... Why does Sacred Sword (and relatedly, Fusion Flare/Bolt) count as a signature move for the Swords of Justice (who aren&#039;t technically related by family) when Rolling Kick (which only Hitmonlee and Hitmontop, who are related, can learn, excluding egg moves) doesn&#039;t from Generation 2 onwards?&lt;br /&gt;
Fourth... Needle Arm isn&#039;t learned by anything other than Cacnea/Cacturne in Generation 4, either. (It&#039;s only marked as being signature in Generation 3.)&lt;br /&gt;
Fifth... Only the Whismur line learned Sleep Talk, except by breeding, in Ruby and Sapphire.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:RiverShock|RiverShock]] ([[User talk:RiverShock|talk]]) 16:00, 25 March 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Misplacing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there a reason why Jynx (#124) is placed after Magikarp (#129)? I searched the rest of the list and didn&#039;t see this error again. [[User:PokefanR|PokefanR]] ([[User talk:PokefanR|talk]]) 23:10, 27 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== outrage and dragonite ==&lt;br /&gt;
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outrage was the dratini&#039;s family signature move in gen 2 and that isn&#039;t on the list [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 15:53, 24 June 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:By level-up, yes. Charmander and Larvitar can learn it by breeding, so I&#039;m not sure how to categorize this. [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 07:46, 27 June 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Breeding is ignored for signature moves. Because by that logic, eg. {{m|Pay Day}} would be signature only in G3-G4 (G1 has TM, G2 has breed from TM and G5 has breed), when it&#039;s signature since G2. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 09:04, 27 June 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::actually I just didn&#039;t see it it the list lol [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 12:28, 8 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nuzzle ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Would Nuzzle count as a pseudo signature as it can only be learned by Pikachu and it&#039;s imitators? [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] ([[User talk:Guybrush20X6|talk]]) 09:41, 15 November 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:That seems notable, I guess, but I&#039;m going to say no. It&#039;s like how Glare is only learnable by snake-based Pokémon (excluding breeding). Since all those rodents are unrelated by evolution, it just comes down to specifics on how the move is actually used (description involves &amp;quot;electrified cheeks&amp;quot;). --[[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiANGLO&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;([[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#cc00aa&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]])&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:22, 18 November 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Definition ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article doesn&#039;t give a clear definition of what conditions we consider a move to be a signature move and what conditions we don&#039;t. All it says is that &#039;&#039;Most are learned by leveling up but some can be learned through other means when no Pokémon can learn the move by leveling up&#039;&#039;. There&#039;s no addressing what disqualifies a signature move: do TMs? do Egg moves? do event moves? do all of these disqualify in all cases, or are there special circumstances? There&#039;s been a lot of disagreement on this talk page about what constitutes a signature move, so we need to actually state &#039;&#039;our definition&#039;&#039; in the article so it&#039;s clear to readers. I would do so myself, but I don&#039;t know what that definition is to me because {{tt|our criteria make no sense to me|Really, Soft-Boiled is disqualified from Gen I Chansey on this page because it&#039;s a TM, but there&#039;s no mention of &#039;&#039;since Generation II&#039;&#039; in Soft-Boiled&#039;s article?}}. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:38, 27 December 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Solosis line and Skill Swap? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Does Skill Swap really count as being a signature move for the Solosis line? Sure, they were the first ones to be able to learn it by level up, but many others could learn it through other means. Heck, the move itself appeared two generations before the Pokémon did. If no one has any objections, I think it should be removed. --[[User:RiverAura|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#00CCFF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;River&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User_Talk:RiverAura|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#00FFCC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Aura&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 00:16, 15 January 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, it definitely doesn&#039;t fit since it can be taught by Move Tutor in the same Generation it&#039;s listed as being a signature move in. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 00:31, 15 January 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Event moves... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Should Hold Back and Happy Hour really be considered signature moves? They&#039;re not naturally known by any Pokemon, and several moves that otherwise qualify as Signature moves on this list, such as Shift Gear, Spacial Rend and Fusion Bolt have been given to event Pokemon. The fact they&#039;re only known by 1 Pokemon seems meaningless since any Pokemon could (and in all probability, will) be given them. (And again, no Pokemon actually learns them naturally.)&lt;br /&gt;
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Incidentally, the list of &amp;quot;One-off signature moves&amp;quot; is rather incomplete. (Being both outdated, and lacking some earlier ones like XD&#039;s Frenzy Plant/Blast Burn/Hydro Cannon Gen 2 starters.)&lt;br /&gt;
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Given Egg Moves seem to be ignored, Whismur/Loudred/Exploud should have Sleep Talk as a signature move in Ruby/Sapphire and Spoink/Grumpig should have Magic Coat as a signature move in the entirety of Gen 3. If Hold Back and Happy Hour are deemed to be valid signature moves, then Snarl should be a signature move of Zoroark in Black/White since TM95 wasn&#039;t legitimately obtainable, and thus event Zoroark (or a trade back from BW2, which also shouldn&#039;t count, since otherwise it would disqualify things like Meowth&#039;s Gen 2 Pay Day) is the only Pokemon that can know it outside breeding in those games. [[User:RiverShock|RiverShock]] ([[User talk:RiverShock|talk]]) 23:54, 30 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In order for a Pokémon to qualify as having a signature move, it must meet one of the following conditions: (1) It must be the only Pokémon (or Pokémon family) to learn the move (excluding Smeargle using Sketch), or (2) It must be the only Pokémon (or Pokémon family) to learn the move by Level Up. At the time of this writing, Celebi&#039;s Hold Back and Inkay&#039;s Happy Hour qualify them for condition #1. If a later event is released giving the move to a different Pokémon, then they will cease being signature moves, and they will be removed. If a later game is released where the moves are available to more Pokémon, the same will occur. Celebrate and V-Create are good examples of this. They are event-exclusive moves, but they are available to multiple evolution lines, with Celebrate being found on both Pikachu and Eevee (plus evolutions), and V-Create being available to both Victini and Rayquaza. Shift Gear, Spacial Rend, Fusion Bolt, etc. are considered signature moves because their users qualify for condition #2, they are the only Pokémon capable of learning the move through Level Up. Snarl on Zoroark was a signature move of Zoroark in Black/White, however, it isn&#039;t listed because we don&#039;t list things by games, we list them by generation, and the move is not exclusive to Zoroark when you look at Generation V as a whole - which would include Black 2/White 2. Meowth&#039;s Gen 2 Pay Day is a signature move because it qualifies for both conditions in Gen 2. --[[User:GoldenSandslash15|GoldenSandslash15]] ([[User talk:GoldenSandslash15|talk]]) 04:14, 31 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, GoldenSandslash, we do frequently list things by game instead of generation. See, for example, the Alakazam line&#039;s Kinesis in Yellow or Hitmonchan&#039;s Vacuum Wave in Diamond/Pearl. Also, your condition #2 is wrong; a TM is also enough to disqualify it, even if only one family can learn it by level up. (I strongly disagree with this criterion, but for some reason it exists.) In any case, I agree that TM95 being unobtainable in BW shouldn&#039;t make Snarl Zoroark&#039;s signature move, because if you do get a TM95 in BW somehow (tradeback or cheating), it is programmed to be compatible with tons of Pokemon, so it&#039;s &#039;&#039;technically&#039;&#039; in their movesets, and it&#039;s not programmed to be in Zoroark&#039;s level up moveset at all. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
:::TMs aren&#039;t tradeable in Gen 5, so there has never been (and never will be) a way to teach a Pokemon a move via TM95 in Black/White without cheating. The only way TM95&#039;s compatibility is referred to at all in Black/White is by breeding a tradeback or this Zoroark. (Or a Smeargle that Sketched from this Zoroark or a tradeback, I guess.) And breeding doesn&#039;t disqualify a signature move. Why should unobtainable moves in a Pokemon&#039;s potential learnset count towards disqualifying a signature move? [[User:RiverShock|RiverShock]] ([[User talk:RiverShock|talk]]) 17:39, 31 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bone/Rolling Kick thing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The removed fact was:&lt;br /&gt;
 * Bone Club and Bonemerang are the only STAB signature moves throughout all 6 generations.&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t think Rolling Kick counts because Machop, Hitmontop, and Elekid can learn it. Thus the Bone attacks are the only true signature moves. (IMO, the only signature egg move is Volt Tackle)&lt;br /&gt;
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And in case someone says Kinesis, it does no damage, thus doesn&#039;t qualify for STAB. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 22:43, 8 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Regardless, Rolling Kick is still a signature move, &amp;quot;true&amp;quot; signature move or not. Once you try to add too many conditions to make a factoid seem unique, it just becomes not notable enough to add. --[[User:Carmenstar97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#95EB5C&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Carmen&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;★&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:Carmenstar97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FEBEE8&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(Talk |&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#A6DAFC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;contribs)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:56, 8 May 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Discuss please: Move Tutor vs. level-up ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It has come to my attention on the {{m|Electroweb}} page that, for some reason, we consider it Joltik/Galvantula&#039;s signature move in BW, not in B2W2, again in XY, and then not in ORAS, simply because of the B2W2 and ORAS move tutors. This is frankly ridiculous and makes no sense whatsoever. It was also pointed out that Hitmonlee&#039;s Mega Kick is also subject to this problem in Gen III.&lt;br /&gt;
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The fact is that, in a post-Gen III world in which Pokémon can be and regularly are transferred forward and in which Move Tutor availability is extremely broad in some games and extremely narrow in others, the current criteria for signature moves are obscure, difficult to divine, and needlessly convoluted. The simple fact should be that if a Pokémon or evolutionary line is the only one who can learn a move (barring events), that should be its signature move, and if any other Pokémon can have legal access to it by any means (including intergenerational transfer), it should not be considered a signature move. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:32, 5 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ve actually agreed with that for a while; the only reason I undid your edit was because those were the rules lol. Can we please change this? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 20:12, 5 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think I both agree and disagree. I understand how it seems odd for Electroweb&#039;s status as a signature move to bounce back and forth, however that&#039;s not a particularly common occurrence, and I think it still fits in with the spirit of a signature move. After all, Audino had Secret Power as a signature move in Gen V, even though nearly any Pokémon could exist on those cartridges knowing that move through transfers. I disagree, then, that transfer availability disqualifies a move from being a &amp;quot;signature&amp;quot; move. I also think that the criteria for signature moves are in no way obscure or &amp;quot;difficult to divine&amp;quot;, regardless of whether or not I agree with them. A move is a signature move &#039;in a particular game&#039; if only one family of Pokémon—either evolutionary line or related Legendaries—can learn it without breeding. Transfers and events can be considered reasonable exceptions as they both require interaction outside the game itself (connection to another game or download server—conditions not pre-loaded onto the cartridge). Pretty clear-cut in my opinion. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:19, 8 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* TM/HM or Move Tutor that are exclusive by level-up */ Added the method by which Pokémon other than Lucario learn Power-Up Punch.&lt;/p&gt;
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[[File:Reshiram Zekrom Blue Flare Bolt Strike artwork.png|thumb|250px|Zekrom and Reshiram using Bolt Strike and Blue Flare, their signature moves]]&lt;br /&gt;
A &#039;&#039;&#039;signature move&#039;&#039;&#039; (Japanese: &#039;&#039;&#039;{{tt|専用技|せんようわざ}}&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;exclusive move&#039;&#039;) is a [[move]] that can only be learned by a single {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} or its [[evolution]]ary relatives usually in the same evolutionary line. Most are learned by leveling up but some can be learned through other means when no Pokémon can learn the move by leveling up.&lt;br /&gt;
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Note that any of the moves included in this classification (except for {{m|Chatter}}) can be learned by {{p|Smeargle}} using {{m|Sketch}}, making Sketch and Chatter the only moves that are truly exclusive to one Pokémon legitimately. {{m|Hyperspace Fury}} could also be considered truly exclusive, as only {{p|Hoopa}} [[List of Pokémon with form differences#Hoopa|Unbound]] can execute it successfully. Also, some of these moves can be passed down via {{pkmn|breeding}} to other Pokémon or are known by certain [[event Pokémon]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==List of Pokémon and their signature moves==&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;roundy&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;margin:auto; background:#{{TMs and HMs color dark}}; border:5px solid #{{TMs and HMs color}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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! rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#{{TMs and HMs color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}&amp;quot; | #&lt;br /&gt;
! rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; colspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#{{TMs and HMs color light}}&amp;quot; | Pokémon&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;6&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#{{TMs and HMs color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}&amp;quot; | Generation&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;color:#FFF; line-height:1em&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#{{kanto color}}&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100px&amp;quot; | {{color2|fff|Generation I|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#{{johto color}}&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100px&amp;quot; | {{color2|fff|Generation II|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#{{hoenn color}}&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100px&amp;quot; | {{color2|fff|Generation III|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#{{sinnoh color}}&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100px&amp;quot; | {{color2|fff|Generation IV|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#{{unova color}}&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100px&amp;quot; | {{color2|fff|Generation V|V}}&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#{{kalos color}}&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100px&amp;quot; | {{color2|fff|Generation VI|VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|003|Venusaur|||Frenzy Plant||}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|006|Charizard|||Blast Burn||}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|007|Squirtle||Skull Bash}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|008|Wartortle||Skull Bash}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|009|Blastoise||Skull Bash|Hydro Cannon||}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|015|Beedrill|Twineedle|Twineedle|Twineedle|Twineedle}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|016|Pidgey|Gust||FeatherDance|until1=Pokémon Yellow}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|017|Pidgeotto|Gust||FeatherDance|until1=Pokémon Yellow}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|018|Pidgeot|Gust||FeatherDance|until1=Pokémon Yellow}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|019|Rattata|Hyper Fang|Hyper Fang|Hyper Fang|GenImv2=Super Fang|GenIImv2=Super Fang|GenIIImv2=Super Fang}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|020|Raticate|Hyper Fang|Hyper Fang|Hyper Fang|GenImv2=Super Fang|GenIImv2=Super Fang|GenIIImv2=Super Fang}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|023|Ekans|Glare}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|024|Arbok|Glare}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|025|Pikachu|||Volt Tackle|Volt Tackle|Volt Tackle|Volt Tackle}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|026|Raichu|||Volt Tackle|Volt Tackle|Volt Tackle|Volt Tackle}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|043|Oddish|Petal Dance}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|044|Gloom|Petal Dance}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|045|Vileplume|Petal Dance}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|046|Paras|Spore|Spore}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|047|Parasect|Spore|Spore}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|050|Diglett||Fissure}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|051|Dugtrio||Fissure}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|052|Meowth||Pay Day|Pay Day|Pay Day|Pay Day|Pay Day}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|053|Persian||Pay Day|Pay Day}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|059|Arcanine||ExtremeSpeed}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|064|Kadabra|Kinesis|Kinesis|Kinesis|Kinesis|Kinesis|Kinesis|only1=Pokémon Yellow}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|065|Alakazam|Kinesis|Kinesis|Kinesis|Kinesis|Kinesis|Kinesis|only1=Pokémon Yellow}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|066|Machop|Low Kick|until1=Pokémon Yellow|Vital Throw}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|067|Machoke|Low Kick|until1=Pokémon Yellow|Vital Throw}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|068|Machamp|Low Kick|until1=Pokémon Yellow|Vital Throw}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|090|Shellder|Clamp|Clamp|Icicle Spear|Icicle Spear|only3=Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|091|Cloyster|Clamp}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|092|Gastly|Night Shade}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|093|Haunter|Night Shade}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|094|Gengar|Night Shade}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|098|Krabby|Crabhammer|Crabhammer}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|099|Kingler|Crabhammer|Crabhammer}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|102|Exeggcute|Barrage|Barrage|Barrage|Barrage|Barrage|Barrage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|103|Exeggutor|Barrage|Barrage|Barrage|Barrage|Barrage|Barrage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|104|Cubone|Bone Club|Bone Club|Bone Club|Bone Club|Bone Club|Bone Club|GenImv2=Bonemerang|GenIImv2=Bonemerang|GenIIImv2=Bonemerang|GenIVmv2=Bonemerang|GenVmv2=Bonemerang|GenVImv2=Bonemerang|GenIImv3=Bone Rush|GenIIImv3=Bone Rush}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|105|Marowak|Bone Club|Bone Club|Bone Club|Bone Club|Bone Club|Bone Club|GenImv2=Bonemerang|GenIImv2=Bonemerang|GenIIImv2=Bonemerang|GenIVmv2=Bonemerang|GenVmv2=Bonemerang|GenVImv2=Bonemerang|GenIImv3=Bone Rush|GenIIImv3=Bone Rush}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|106|Hitmonlee|Jump Kick|Mega Kick|Mega Kick|Mega Kick|Mega Kick|Mega Kick|GenImv2=Hi Jump Kick|GenIImv2=Jump Kick|GenIIImv2=Jump Kick|GenIVmv2=Rolling Kick|GenVmv2=Rolling Kick|GenVImv2=Rolling Kick|GenIImv3=Hi Jump Kick|GenImv3=Rolling Kick|GenIIImv3=Rolling Kick|GenIImv4=Rolling Kick|until3=Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|107|Hitmonchan||Mach Punch||Vacuum Wave|until4=Pokémon Platinum}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|113|Chansey||Softboiled|Softboiled|Softboiled|Softboiled|Soft-Boiled|until3=Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|115|Kangaskhan|Dizzy Punch|Dizzy Punch}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|118|Goldeen|Waterfall}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|119|Seaking|Waterfall}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|120|Staryu|||Camouflage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|122|Mr. Mime||Substitute}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|124|Jynx|Lovely Kiss|Lovely Kiss|Lovely Kiss|Lovely Kiss|Lovely Kiss|Lovely Kiss}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|129|Magikarp|Splash}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|137|Porygon|Conversion|Conversion|Conversion|Conversion|Conversion|Conversion|GenIImv2=Conversion2|GenIIImv2=Conversion 2|GenIVmv2=Conversion 2|GenVmv2=Conversion 2|GenVImv2=Conversion 2|GenImv2=Sharpen|GenIImv3=Sharpen|GenIIImv3=Sharpen|GenIVmv3=Sharpen}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|146|Moltres||Sky Attack}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|147|Dratini||Outrage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|148|Dragonair||Outrage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|149|Dragonite||Outrage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|150|Mewtwo|||||Psystrike|Psystrike}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|167|Spinarak||Spider Web|Spider Web|Spider Web}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|168|Ariados||Spider Web|Spider Web|Spider Web}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|172|Pichu|||Volt Tackle|Volt Tackle|Volt Tackle|Volt Tackle}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|196|Espeon||Morning Sun}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|200|Misdreavus||Pain Split|Pain Split|Pain Split|until4=Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver|GenIImv2=Psywave}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|204|Pineco||Spikes||||until2=Pokémon Crystal}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|205|Forretress||Spikes||||until2=Pokémon Crystal}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|212|Scizor||Metal Claw||||until2=Pokémon Crystal|}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|214|Heracross||Megahorn}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|215|Sneasel||Beat Up|Beat Up}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|224|Octillery||Octazooka|Octazooka|Octazooka|Octazooka|Octazooka}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|225|Delibird||Present|Present|Present|Present|Present}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|227|Skarmory|||||Steel Wing}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|233|Porygon2||Conversion|Conversion|Conversion|Conversion|Conversion|GenIImv2=Conversion2|GenIIImv2=Conversion 2|GenIVmv2=Conversion 2|GenVmv2=Conversion 2|GenVImv2=Conversion 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|235|Smeargle||Sketch|Sketch|Sketch|Sketch|Sketch}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|237|Hitmontop||Triple Kick|Triple Kick|Triple Kick|Triple Kick|Triple Kick|GenIImv2=Rolling Kick|GenIIImv2=Rolling Kick|GenIVmv2=Rolling Kick|GenVmv2=Rolling Kick|GenVImv2=Rolling Kick}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|241|Miltank||Milk Drink|Milk Drink|Milk Drink|Milk Drink}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|242|Blissey||Softboiled|Softboiled|Softboiled|Softboiled|Soft-Boiled|until3=Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|249|Lugia||Aeroblast|Aeroblast|Aeroblast|Aeroblast|Aeroblast}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|250|Ho-Oh||Sacred Fire|Sacred Fire|Sacred Fire|Sacred Fire}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|253|Grovyle|||Leaf Blade}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|254|Sceptile|||Leaf Blade}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|257|Blaziken|||Blaze Kick}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|259|Marshtomp|||Muddy Water}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|260|Swampert|||Muddy Water}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|274|Nuzleaf|||Extrasensory}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|287|Slakoth|||Slack Off}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|289|Slaking|||Slack Off}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|293|Whismur|||Sleep Talk|until3=Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|294|Loudred|||Sleep Talk|until3=Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|295|Exploud|||Sleep Talk|until3=Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|296|Makuhita|||SmellingSalt|SmellingSalt|SmellingSalt|Smelling Salts|GenIIImv2=Arm Thrust|GenIVmv2=Arm Thrust}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|297|Hariyama|||SmellingSalt|SmellingSalt|SmellingSalt|Smelling Salts|GenIIImv2=Arm Thrust|GenIVmv2=Arm Thrust}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|300|Skitty|||Assist}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|313|Volbeat|||Signal Beam|GenIIImv2=Tail Glow|until3=Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|315|Roselia|||GrassWhistle}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|325|Spoink|||Magic Coat}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|326|Grumpig|||Magic Coat}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|327|Spinda|||Teeter Dance|Teeter Dance}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|331|Cacnea|||Needle Arm|Needle Arm}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|332|Cacturne|||Needle Arm|Needle Arm}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|335|Zangoose|||Crush Claw}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|336|Seviper|||Poison Tail|Poison Tail}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|351|Castform|||Weather Ball}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|363|Spheal|||Ice Ball|Ice Ball|Ice Ball}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|364|Sealeo|||Ice Ball|Ice Ball|Ice Ball}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|365|Walrein|||Ice Ball|Ice Ball|Ice Ball}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|380|Latias|||Mist Ball|Mist Ball|Mist Ball|Mist Ball}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|381|Latios|||Luster Purge|Luster Purge|Luster Purge|Luster Purge}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|382|Kyogre||||||Origin Pulse}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|383|Groudon||||||Precipice Blades}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|384|Rayquaza||||||Dragon Ascent}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|385|Jirachi|||Doom Desire|Doom Desire|Doom Desire|Doom Desire}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|386|Deoxys|||Psycho Boost|Psycho Boost|Psycho Boost|Psycho Boost|forms=4|form2=Attack Forme|form3=Defense Forme|form4=Speed Forme}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|416|Vespiquen||||Defend Order|Defend Order|Defend Order|GenIVmv2=Heal Order|GenVmv2=Heal Order|GenVImv2=Heal Order|GenIVmv3=Attack Order|GenVmv3=Attack Order|GenVImv3=Attack Order}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|441|Chatot||||Chatter|Chatter|Chatter}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|464|Rhyperior||||Rock Wrecker}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|474|Porygon-Z||||Conversion|Conversion|Conversion|GenIVmv2=Conversion 2|GenVmv2=Conversion 2|GenVImv2=Conversion 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|483|Dialga||||Roar of Time|Roar of Time|Roar of Time}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|484|Palkia||||Spacial Rend|Spacial Rend|Spacial Rend}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|485|Heatran||||Magma Storm|Magma Storm|Magma Storm}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|486|Regigigas||||Crush Grip|Crush Grip|Crush Grip}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|487|Giratina||||Shadow Force|Shadow Force|Shadow Force|forms=2|form2=Origin Forme}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|488|Cresselia||||Lunar Dance|Lunar Dance|Lunar Dance}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|490|Manaphy||||Heart Swap|Heart Swap|Heart Swap}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|491|Darkrai||||Dark Void|Dark Void|Dark Void}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|492|Shaymin||||Seed Flare|Seed Flare|Seed Flare|forms=2|form2=Sky Forme}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|493|Arceus||||Judgment|Judgment|Judgment}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|494|Victini|||||Searing Shot|Searing Shot}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|498|Tepig|||||Heat Crash|Heat Crash}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|499|Pignite|||||Heat Crash|Heat Crash}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|500|Emboar|||||Heat Crash|Heat Crash}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|531|Audino|||||Secret Power|Secret Power|until6=Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|538|Throh|||||Storm Throw|until5=Pokémon Black 2 and White 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|570|Zorua|||||Night Daze|Night Daze}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|571|Zoroark|||||Night Daze|Night Daze}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|572|Minccino|||||Tail Slap|Tail Slap}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|573|Cinccino|||||Tail Slap|Tail Slap}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|577|Solosis|||||Skill Swap|until5=Pokémon Black 2 and White 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|578|Duosion|||||Skill Swap|until5=Pokémon Black 2 and White 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|579|Reuniclus|||||Skill Swap|until5=Pokémon Black 2 and White 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|586|Sawsbuck|||||Horn Leech|forms=4|form2=Summer|form3=Autumn|form4=Winter}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|595|Joltik|||||Electroweb|Electroweb|until5=Pokémon Black 2 and White 2|until6=Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|596|Galvantula|||||Electroweb|Electroweb|until5=Pokémon Black 2 and White 2|until6=Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|599|Klink|||||Gear Grind|Gear Grind|GenVmv2=Shift Gear|GenVImv2=Shift Gear}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|600|Klang|||||Gear Grind|Gear Grind|GenVmv2=Shift Gear|GenVImv2=Shift Gear}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|601|Klinklang|||||Gear Grind|Gear Grind|GenVmv2=Shift Gear|GenVImv2=Shift Gear}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|626|Bouffalant|||||Head Charge|Head Charge}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|637|Volcarona|||||Fiery Dance|Fiery Dance}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|638|Cobalion|||||Sacred Sword}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|639|Terrakion|||||Sacred Sword}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|640|Virizion|||||Sacred Sword}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|643|Reshiram|||||Fusion Flare|Fusion Flare|GenVmv2=Blue Flare|GenVImv2=Blue Flare}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|644|Zekrom|||||Fusion Bolt|Fusion Bolt|GenVmv2=Bolt Strike|GenVImv2=Bolt Strike}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|646|Kyurem|||||Glaciate|Glaciate|form=Normal Kyurem}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|646|Kyurem|||||Fusion Flare|Fusion Flare|GenVmv2=Ice Burn|GenVImv2=Ice Burn|form=White Kyurem}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|646|Kyurem|||||Fusion Bolt|Fusion Bolt|GenVmv2=Freeze Shock|GenVImv2=Freeze Shock|form=Black Kyurem}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|647|Keldeo|||||Secret Sword|Secret Sword|GenVmv2=Sacred Sword|forms=2|form2=Resolute Form}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|648|Meloetta|||||Relic Song|Relic Song|forms=2|form2=Pirouette Forme}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|649|Genesect|||||Techno Blast|Techno Blast}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|652|Chesnaught||||||Spiky Shield|until6=Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|655|Delphox||||||Mystical Fire|until6=Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|658|Greninja||||||Water Shuriken|GenVImv2=Mat Block|until6=Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|666|Vivillon||||||Powder}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|667|Litleo||||||Noble Roar}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|668|Pyroar||||||Noble Roar}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|670|Floette||||||Light of Ruin|form=Eternal Flower}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|674|Pancham||||||Parting Shot}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|675|Pangoro||||||Parting Shot}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|681|Aegislash||||||King&#039;s Shield}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|683|Aromatisse||||||Aromatic Mist}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|686|Inkay||||||Topsy-Turvy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|687|Malamar||||||Topsy-Turvy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|694|Helioptile||||||Electrify}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|695|Heliolisk||||||Electrify}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|701|Hawlucha||||||Flying Press|until6=Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|707|Klefki||||||Fairy Lock|GenVImv2=Crafty Shield}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|708|Phantump||||||Forest&#039;s Curse}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|709|Trevenant||||||Forest&#039;s Curse}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|710|Pumpkaboo||||||Trick-or-Treat}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|711|Gourgeist||||||Trick-or-Treat}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|716|Xerneas||||||Geomancy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|717|Yveltal||||||Oblivion Wing}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|718|Zygarde||||||Land&#039;s Wrath}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|719|Diancie||||||Diamond Storm}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|720|Hoopa||||||Hyperspace Hole|form=Hoopa Confined}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|720|Hoopa||||||Hyperspace Fury|form=Hoopa Unbound}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|721|Volcanion||||||Steam Eruption}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Shadow moves===&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;roundy&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;margin:auto; background:#{{XD color dark}}; border:5px solid #{{XD color}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#{{XD color}}; {{roundytl|5px}}&amp;quot; | #&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#{{XD color}}&amp;quot; | Pokémon&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#{{XD color}}; {{roundytr|5px}}&amp;quot; | Move&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background:#fff&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| width=&amp;quot;26px&amp;quot; | 144&lt;br /&gt;
| width=&amp;quot;32px&amp;quot; | [[File:Menu XD 144.png|link=Articuno (Pokémon)]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Articuno}}&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#{{XD color light}}&amp;quot; | {{mcolor|Shadow Chill|FFF}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background:#fff&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 145&lt;br /&gt;
| [[File:Menu XD 145.png|link=Zapdos (Pokémon)]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Zapdos}}&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#{{XD color light}}&amp;quot; | {{mcolor|Shadow Bolt|FFF}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background:#fff&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 146&lt;br /&gt;
| [[File:Menu XD 146.png|link=Moltres (Pokémon)]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Moltres}}&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#{{XD color light}}&amp;quot; | {{mcolor|Shadow Fire|FFF}}&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| style=&amp;quot;background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}&amp;quot; | 249&lt;br /&gt;
| style=&amp;quot;background:#fff&amp;quot; | [[File:Menu XD 249S.png|link=Shadow Lugia]]&lt;br /&gt;
| style=&amp;quot;background:#fff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[Shadow Lugia|Shadow]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{p|Lugia}}&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#{{XD color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}}&amp;quot; | {{mcolor|Shadow Blast|FFF}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==One-off signature moves==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Victini event moves.png|thumb|Victini using Fusion Flare, Fusion Bolt, and V-create]]&lt;br /&gt;
This is a list of signature moves that at only one point, another Pokémon had the ability to acquire:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* A {{p|Dratini}} that knows &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Extreme Speed|ExtremeSpeed}}&#039;&#039;&#039; is obtainable in {{game|Crystal}}, {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s|HeartGold, and SoulSilver}} after answering a quiz in the [[Dragon&#039;s Den]].&lt;br /&gt;
* An Egg will be given by the Day-Care Man in {{game|Crystal}} that hatches into a random baby Pokémon that knows &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Dizzy Punch}}&#039;&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
* A {{p|Skitty}} with &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Pay Day}}&#039;&#039;&#039; can be obtained from a special {{pkmn|Egg}} after depositing 500 Pokémon in [[Pokémon Box Ruby &amp;amp; Sapphire]] from a Game Boy Advance game pak.&lt;br /&gt;
* After [[Shadow Lugia|Lugia]] from [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]] has been purified, it learns &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Psycho Boost}}&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Feather Dance|FeatherDance}}&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* After {{p|Articuno}}, {{p|Zapdos}}, and {{p|Moltres}} from Pokémon XD have been purified, they all learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Extrasensory}}&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* A {{p|Darkrai}} with &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Roar of Time}}&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Spacial Rend}}&#039;&#039;&#039; was available as a special giveaway to commemorate the [[M10|10th movie]].&lt;br /&gt;
* An {{p|Arceus}} with &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Roar of Time}}&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Spacial Rend}}&#039;&#039;&#039;, and &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Shadow Force}}&#039;&#039;&#039; was available as a special giveaway to commemorate the [[M12|12th movie]].&lt;br /&gt;
* A {{p|Victini}} with &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Fusion Flare}}&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Fusion Bolt}}&#039;&#039;&#039; was available as a special giveaway to commemorate the [[M14|14th movie]].&lt;br /&gt;
* A Victini with &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Glaciate}}&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Bolt Strike}}&#039;&#039;&#039;, and &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Blue Flare}}&#039;&#039;&#039; was available as a special giveaway to celebrate Christmas 2012.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Other signature move examples==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dialga Roar of Time.png|thumb|right|200px|{{p|Dialga}} using its signature move, {{m|Roar of Time}}, in &#039;&#039;[[M10|The Rise of Darkrai]]&#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
===TM/HM or Move Tutor that are exclusive by level-up===&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Squirtle}} and its evolutionary relatives are the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Skull Bash}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up in [[Generation I]], but other Pokémon could learn it through [[TM40]].&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Abra}} and its evolutionary relatives are the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Teleport}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up in [[Generation I]], but other Pokémon could learn it through [[TM30]].&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Sudowoodo}} is the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Mimic}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up in [[Generation II]], but other Pokémon could learn it through [[TM31]] in Generation I and [[Move Tutor]] in [[Generation III]].&lt;br /&gt;
* In [[Generation]]s {{gen|II}}, {{gen|IV}}, {{gen|V}} and {{gen|VI}} and {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}, {{p|Hitmonlee}} is the only Pokémon who can learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Mega Kick}}&#039;&#039;&#039;. However, in Generation I and {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, others could learn it through [[TM]] and Move Tutor respectively.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Waterfall}}&#039;&#039;&#039; was the signature move of {{p|Goldeen}} and {{p|Seaking}} in Generation I, before it became an [[HM]]. They are still the only ones to learn it by level up.&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Unown}} can learn only &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Hidden Power}}&#039;&#039;&#039;, and is the only Pokémon to learn it in Generation II; however, almost every other Pokémon can learn it via [[TM10]] in Generation II and beyond.&lt;br /&gt;
* Although several Pokémon can learn it by TM, until Generation III only {{p|Diglett}} and {{p|Dugtrio}} could learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Dig}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by level up.&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Sunflora}} is the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Bullet Seed}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by level up in Generation III, though other Pokémon could learn it through [[TM09]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Prior to [[Generation V]], {{p|Vigoroth}} is the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Focus Punch}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up, although many other Pokémon can learn it via [[TM01]].&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Porygon-Z}} is the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Trick Room}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up prior to [[Generation VI]], although that move could also be learned via [[TM92]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Almost every Pokémon is able to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Facade}}&#039;&#039;&#039; via [[TM42]]. However, {{p|Chimchar}} is the only one to learn it by leveling up prior to Generation V.&lt;br /&gt;
* Although only {{p|Panpour}} and {{p|Simipour|its evolution}} are the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Scald}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up in Generation V, other Pokémon can learn it via [[TM55]].&lt;br /&gt;
** Also in Generation V only, {{p|Pansage}} is the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Grass Knot}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up, yet other Pokémon can learn it via [[TM86]].&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Kadabra}} and {{p|Alakazam}} are the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Ally Switch}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up, but other Pokémon can learn it through [[TM51]] in Generation V.&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Volbeat}} is the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Flash}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up, but other Pokémon can learn it through [[HM05]]/[[TM70]].&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Sawk}} is the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Rock Smash}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up, but other Pokémon can learn it through [[TM94]]/[[HM06]] in Generation V and VI.&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Emolga}} is the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Volt Switch}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up in Generation V, but other Pokémon can learn it through [[TM72]].&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Yveltal}} is the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Snarl}}&#039;&#039;&#039; (before {{pkmn|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}) or &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Focus Blast}}&#039;&#039;&#039;  by leveling up, but other Pokémon can learn them via [[TM95]] and [[TM52]], respectively.&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Snorunt}} and {{p|Glalie}} are the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Frost Breath}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up (starting in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire), but other Pokémon can learn it via [[TM79]].&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Lucario}} is the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Power-Up Punch}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up, but other Pokémon can learn it via [[TM98]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Moves commonly associated with certain Pokémon===&lt;br /&gt;
* Although &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Megahorn}}&#039;&#039;&#039; was no longer {{p|Heracross}}&#039;s signature move starting in [[Generation III]], it was still the only {{type|Bug}} Pokémon that could learn the move prior to [[Generation V]], where Megahorn is now learnable by {{p|Scolipede}}, {{p|Karrablast}} and {{p|Escavalier}}.&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Lucario}} is usually associated with &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Aura Sphere}}&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Force Palm}}&#039;&#039;&#039;, but ten Pokémon (including Lucario) can learn Aura Sphere in total plus two with {{p|Riolu}} from Almia and {{p|Raikou}} from an event, in addition to the {{p|Squirtle}} family through breeding. 10 Pokémon (including Lucario) can learn Force Palm. In Generation V and VI, Lucario and the Mienshao family are the only Fighting-type Pokémon to learn Aura Sphere by leveling up.&lt;br /&gt;
** Lucario no longer learns Force Palm in Generation VI (although {{p|Riolu}} can still learn it).&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Venusaur}}, {{p|Charizard}}, and {{p|Blastoise}} are often associated with &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Solar Beam}}&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Flamethrower}}&#039;&#039;&#039;, and &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Hydro Pump}}&#039;&#039;&#039;, respectively, due to them frequently being depicted using those moves in various Pokémon media (such as the anime).&lt;br /&gt;
** In [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]], {{p|Charizard}}&#039;s trophy states that &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Flamethrower}}&#039;&#039;&#039; is its signature move.&lt;br /&gt;
* Electrode are most commonly seen using {{m|Explosion}}, with it being shown to use it most in the {{pkmn|anime}}.&lt;br /&gt;
* Although several Pokémon have been able to learn {{m|Sing}} since its introduction, the move is heavily associated with {{p|Jigglypuff}} due to the {{an|Jigglypuff}} in the anime.&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Jolteon}} and {{p|Vaporeon}}&#039;s signature moves are said to be &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Pin Missile}}&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Acid Armor}}&#039;&#039;&#039;, respectively. Both abilities are alluded to in both Pokémon&#039;s various Pokédex entries. However, many Pokémon learn both moves by leveling up, and some through {{pkmn|breeding}}. Likewise, {{p|Umbreon}}&#039;s &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Moonlight}}&#039;&#039;&#039; matches {{p|Espeon}}&#039;s &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Morning Sun}}&#039;&#039;&#039;, though others can learn it even in its introductory generation.&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Suicune}}, being known as the Aurora Pokémon, is associated with the move &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Aurora Beam}}&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* Although {{p|Clefairy}} can learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Meteor Mash}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up in any Generation III game, the only Pokémon that could have it legitimately before release of {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}} were {{p|Metang}} and its evolved form, {{p|Metagross}}.&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Ditto}} has &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Transform}}&#039;&#039;&#039; as its only move and is most associated with it; however, {{p|Mew}} is also able to learn it.&lt;br /&gt;
* Until Generation III, {{p|Koffing}} and {{p|Weezing}} were the only Poison-type Pokémon capable of learning &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Smog}}&#039;&#039;&#039;, and are still the only Poison-type Pokémon to learn the move by level-up.&lt;br /&gt;
* The move &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Razor Shell}}&#039;&#039;&#039; is tied to {{p|Oshawott}}&#039;s evolutionary line, although it can also be learned by {{p|Shellder}}.&lt;br /&gt;
* Although &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Blaze Kick}}&#039;&#039;&#039; was no longer {{p|Blaziken}}&#039;s signature move from Generation III, it remains the only Fire-type Pokémon to learn it by level up.&lt;br /&gt;
* The {{p|Venipede}} family are the only Pokémon besides {{p|Golem}} which can learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Steamroller}}&#039;&#039;&#039;. They are also the only Bug-type Pokémon to learn it.&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Castform}} was the only Pokémon capable of learning &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Weather Ball}}&#039;&#039;&#039; prior to [[Generation IV]]. However, due to [[Shadow move]]s only being present in [[Generation III]], it remains the only Pokémon capable of taking advantage of Weather Ball&#039;s &#039;&#039;&#039;{{type|???}}&#039;&#039;&#039; effect during {{m|Shadow Sky}}.&lt;br /&gt;
* Each of {{p|Rotom}}&#039;s forms has its own signature move that cannot be carried over to any of its other forms. However, none of these five moves are exclusive to it.&lt;br /&gt;
* In Generation V, &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Sacred Sword}}&#039;&#039;&#039; was exclusively learned by the [[Swords of Justice]], being a signature move of a Legendary group rather than an evolutionary family.&lt;br /&gt;
** Similarly, &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Fusion Flare}}&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Fusion Bolt}}&#039;&#039;&#039; are exclusively learned by {{p|Reshiram}} and [[List of Pokémon with form differences#Kyurem|White]] {{p|Kyurem}}, and {{p|Zekrom}} and [[List of Pokémon with form differences#Kyurem|Black]] {{p|Kyurem}}, respectively. Kyurem&#039;s forms are the result of absorbing Reshiram or Zekrom, and thus gain some of their traits and powers.&lt;br /&gt;
* No Pokémon can learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|V-create}}&#039;&#039;&#039; outside of event distributions. {{p|Victini}} was the first to gain access to it and is often associated with the move. However, later, a {{p|Rayquaza}} with V-create was available as the winner of a [[List of local Japanese event Pokémon distributions in Generation V#15th Anniversary Rayquaza|popularity poll held in Japan in 2011]], making it no longer Victini&#039;s signature move.&lt;br /&gt;
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==In the anime==&lt;br /&gt;
In the {{pkmn|anime}}, it is uncommon for specific moves to be explicitly stated to be exclusive to a certain Pokémon species. The concept was mentioned during a quiz challenge in &#039;&#039;[[DP126|Classroom Training!]]&#039;&#039;, in which [[Candice]] stated that {{m|Pay Day}} could only be learned by {{p|Meowth}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Hitmonlee}} has had the most signature moves, with four in Generation II; however, only two of them are still Hitmonlee&#039;s signature moves. The other was also previously available to other Pokémon through [[TM]]s and [[Move Tutor]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
** The Pokémon with the most signature moves in Generation VI is {{p|Vespiquen}}, with three—{{m|Attack Order}}, {{m|Defend Order}}, and {{m|Heal Order}}—all of which are {{type|Bug}}.&lt;br /&gt;
* All [[Hoenn]] [[starter Pokémon]] could learn a signature move after evolution, although these moves can (from [[Generation IV]] onwards) be learned by other evolutionary families as well.&lt;br /&gt;
**All [[Kalos]] [[starter Pokémon]] can similarly learn signature moves after evolution, with {{p|Greninja}} even getting two.&lt;br /&gt;
* Due to {{p|Smeargle}}&#039;s {{m|Sketch}} being able to copy signature moves, from Generation II onward the only moves that only one Pokémon can learn are Sketch itself, {{m|Shadow Chill}}, {{m|Shadow Bolt}}, {{m|Shadow Fire}}, {{m|Shadow Blast}}, and {{m|Chatter}}. This is because [[Shadow move]]s and Chatter cannot be Sketched.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Game-exclusive moves]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Signature Ability]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: Changed a few &amp;quot;only in&amp;quot; asterisks to &amp;quot;until&amp;quot;, for consistency&amp;#039;s sake. &amp;quot;Until&amp;quot; means it stopped being a sig move when tutors came to a gen, &amp;quot;only in&amp;quot; is for cases like Shellder and Icicle Spear.&lt;/p&gt;
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[[File:Reshiram Zekrom Blue Flare Bolt Strike artwork.png|thumb|250px|Zekrom and Reshiram using Bolt Strike and Blue Flare, their signature moves]]&lt;br /&gt;
A &#039;&#039;&#039;signature move&#039;&#039;&#039; (Japanese: &#039;&#039;&#039;{{tt|専用技|せんようわざ}}&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;exclusive move&#039;&#039;) is a [[move]] that can only be learned by a single {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} or its [[evolution]]ary relatives usually in the same evolutionary line. Most are learned by leveling up but some can be learned through other means when no Pokémon can learn the move by leveling up.&lt;br /&gt;
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Note that any of the moves included in this classification (except for {{m|Chatter}}) can be learned by {{p|Smeargle}} using {{m|Sketch}}, making Sketch and Chatter the only moves that are truly exclusive to one Pokémon legitimately. {{m|Hyperspace Fury}} could also be considered truly exclusive, as only {{p|Hoopa}} [[List of Pokémon with form differences#Hoopa|Unbound]] can execute it successfully. Also, some of these moves can be passed down via {{pkmn|breeding}} to other Pokémon or are known by certain [[event Pokémon]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==List of Pokémon and their signature moves==&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;roundy&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;margin:auto; background:#{{TMs and HMs color dark}}; border:5px solid #{{TMs and HMs color}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#{{TMs and HMs color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}&amp;quot; | #&lt;br /&gt;
! rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; colspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#{{TMs and HMs color light}}&amp;quot; | Pokémon&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;6&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#{{TMs and HMs color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}&amp;quot; | Generation&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;color:#FFF; line-height:1em&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#{{kanto color}}&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100px&amp;quot; | {{color2|fff|Generation I|I}}&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#{{johto color}}&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100px&amp;quot; | {{color2|fff|Generation II|II}}&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#{{hoenn color}}&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100px&amp;quot; | {{color2|fff|Generation III|III}}&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#{{sinnoh color}}&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100px&amp;quot; | {{color2|fff|Generation IV|IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#{{unova color}}&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100px&amp;quot; | {{color2|fff|Generation V|V}}&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#{{kalos color}}&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100px&amp;quot; | {{color2|fff|Generation VI|VI}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|003|Venusaur|||Frenzy Plant||}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|006|Charizard|||Blast Burn||}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|007|Squirtle||Skull Bash}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|008|Wartortle||Skull Bash}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|009|Blastoise||Skull Bash|Hydro Cannon||}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|015|Beedrill|Twineedle|Twineedle|Twineedle|Twineedle}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|016|Pidgey|Gust||FeatherDance|until1=Pokémon Yellow}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|017|Pidgeotto|Gust||FeatherDance|until1=Pokémon Yellow}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|018|Pidgeot|Gust||FeatherDance|until1=Pokémon Yellow}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|019|Rattata|Hyper Fang|Hyper Fang|Hyper Fang|GenImv2=Super Fang|GenIImv2=Super Fang|GenIIImv2=Super Fang}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|020|Raticate|Hyper Fang|Hyper Fang|Hyper Fang|GenImv2=Super Fang|GenIImv2=Super Fang|GenIIImv2=Super Fang}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|023|Ekans|Glare}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|024|Arbok|Glare}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|025|Pikachu|||Volt Tackle|Volt Tackle|Volt Tackle|Volt Tackle}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|026|Raichu|||Volt Tackle|Volt Tackle|Volt Tackle|Volt Tackle}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|043|Oddish|Petal Dance}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|044|Gloom|Petal Dance}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|045|Vileplume|Petal Dance}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|046|Paras|Spore|Spore}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|047|Parasect|Spore|Spore}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|050|Diglett||Fissure}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|051|Dugtrio||Fissure}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|052|Meowth||Pay Day|Pay Day|Pay Day|Pay Day|Pay Day}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|053|Persian||Pay Day|Pay Day}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|059|Arcanine||ExtremeSpeed}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|064|Kadabra|Kinesis|Kinesis|Kinesis|Kinesis|Kinesis|Kinesis|only1=Pokémon Yellow}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|065|Alakazam|Kinesis|Kinesis|Kinesis|Kinesis|Kinesis|Kinesis|only1=Pokémon Yellow}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|066|Machop|Low Kick|until1=Pokémon Yellow|Vital Throw}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|067|Machoke|Low Kick|until1=Pokémon Yellow|Vital Throw}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|068|Machamp|Low Kick|until1=Pokémon Yellow|Vital Throw}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|090|Shellder|Clamp|Clamp|Icicle Spear|Icicle Spear|only3=Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|091|Cloyster|Clamp}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|092|Gastly|Night Shade}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|093|Haunter|Night Shade}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|094|Gengar|Night Shade}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|098|Krabby|Crabhammer|Crabhammer}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|099|Kingler|Crabhammer|Crabhammer}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|102|Exeggcute|Barrage|Barrage|Barrage|Barrage|Barrage|Barrage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|103|Exeggutor|Barrage|Barrage|Barrage|Barrage|Barrage|Barrage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|104|Cubone|Bone Club|Bone Club|Bone Club|Bone Club|Bone Club|Bone Club|GenImv2=Bonemerang|GenIImv2=Bonemerang|GenIIImv2=Bonemerang|GenIVmv2=Bonemerang|GenVmv2=Bonemerang|GenVImv2=Bonemerang|GenIImv3=Bone Rush|GenIIImv3=Bone Rush}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|105|Marowak|Bone Club|Bone Club|Bone Club|Bone Club|Bone Club|Bone Club|GenImv2=Bonemerang|GenIImv2=Bonemerang|GenIIImv2=Bonemerang|GenIVmv2=Bonemerang|GenVmv2=Bonemerang|GenVImv2=Bonemerang|GenIImv3=Bone Rush|GenIIImv3=Bone Rush}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|106|Hitmonlee|Jump Kick|Mega Kick|Mega Kick|Mega Kick|Mega Kick|Mega Kick|GenImv2=Hi Jump Kick|GenIImv2=Jump Kick|GenIIImv2=Jump Kick|GenIVmv2=Rolling Kick|GenVmv2=Rolling Kick|GenVImv2=Rolling Kick|GenIImv3=Hi Jump Kick|GenImv3=Rolling Kick|GenIIImv3=Rolling Kick|GenIImv4=Rolling Kick|until3=Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|107|Hitmonchan||Mach Punch||Vacuum Wave|until4=Pokémon Platinum}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|113|Chansey||Softboiled|Softboiled|Softboiled|Softboiled|Soft-Boiled|until3=Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|115|Kangaskhan|Dizzy Punch|Dizzy Punch}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|118|Goldeen|Waterfall}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|119|Seaking|Waterfall}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|120|Staryu|||Camouflage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|122|Mr. Mime||Substitute}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|124|Jynx|Lovely Kiss|Lovely Kiss|Lovely Kiss|Lovely Kiss|Lovely Kiss|Lovely Kiss}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|129|Magikarp|Splash}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|137|Porygon|Conversion|Conversion|Conversion|Conversion|Conversion|Conversion|GenIImv2=Conversion2|GenIIImv2=Conversion 2|GenIVmv2=Conversion 2|GenVmv2=Conversion 2|GenVImv2=Conversion 2|GenImv2=Sharpen|GenIImv3=Sharpen|GenIIImv3=Sharpen|GenIVmv3=Sharpen}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|146|Moltres||Sky Attack}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|147|Dratini||Outrage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|148|Dragonair||Outrage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|149|Dragonite||Outrage}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|150|Mewtwo|||||Psystrike|Psystrike}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|167|Spinarak||Spider Web|Spider Web|Spider Web}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|168|Ariados||Spider Web|Spider Web|Spider Web}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|172|Pichu|||Volt Tackle|Volt Tackle|Volt Tackle|Volt Tackle}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|196|Espeon||Morning Sun}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|200|Misdreavus||Pain Split|Pain Split|Pain Split|until4=Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver|GenIImv2=Psywave}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|204|Pineco||Spikes||||until2=Pokémon Crystal}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|205|Forretress||Spikes||||until2=Pokémon Crystal}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|212|Scizor||Metal Claw||||until2=Pokémon Crystal|}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|214|Heracross||Megahorn}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|215|Sneasel||Beat Up|Beat Up}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|224|Octillery||Octazooka|Octazooka|Octazooka|Octazooka|Octazooka}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|225|Delibird||Present|Present|Present|Present|Present}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|227|Skarmory|||||Steel Wing}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|233|Porygon2||Conversion|Conversion|Conversion|Conversion|Conversion|GenIImv2=Conversion2|GenIIImv2=Conversion 2|GenIVmv2=Conversion 2|GenVmv2=Conversion 2|GenVImv2=Conversion 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|235|Smeargle||Sketch|Sketch|Sketch|Sketch|Sketch}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|237|Hitmontop||Triple Kick|Triple Kick|Triple Kick|Triple Kick|Triple Kick|GenIImv2=Rolling Kick|GenIIImv2=Rolling Kick|GenIVmv2=Rolling Kick|GenVmv2=Rolling Kick|GenVImv2=Rolling Kick}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|241|Miltank||Milk Drink|Milk Drink|Milk Drink|Milk Drink}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|242|Blissey||Softboiled|Softboiled|Softboiled|Softboiled|Soft-Boiled|until3=Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|249|Lugia||Aeroblast|Aeroblast|Aeroblast|Aeroblast|Aeroblast}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|250|Ho-Oh||Sacred Fire|Sacred Fire|Sacred Fire|Sacred Fire}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|253|Grovyle|||Leaf Blade}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|254|Sceptile|||Leaf Blade}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|257|Blaziken|||Blaze Kick}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|259|Marshtomp|||Muddy Water}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|260|Swampert|||Muddy Water}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|274|Nuzleaf|||Extrasensory}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|287|Slakoth|||Slack Off}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|289|Slaking|||Slack Off}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|293|Whismur|||Sleep Talk|until3=Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|294|Loudred|||Sleep Talk|until3=Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|295|Exploud|||Sleep Talk|until3=Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|296|Makuhita|||SmellingSalt|SmellingSalt|SmellingSalt|Smelling Salts|GenIIImv2=Arm Thrust|GenIVmv2=Arm Thrust}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|297|Hariyama|||SmellingSalt|SmellingSalt|SmellingSalt|Smelling Salts|GenIIImv2=Arm Thrust|GenIVmv2=Arm Thrust}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|300|Skitty|||Assist}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|313|Volbeat|||Signal Beam|GenIIImv2=Tail Glow|until3=Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|315|Roselia|||GrassWhistle}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|325|Spoink|||Magic Coat}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|326|Grumpig|||Magic Coat}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|327|Spinda|||Teeter Dance|Teeter Dance}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|331|Cacnea|||Needle Arm|Needle Arm}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|332|Cacturne|||Needle Arm|Needle Arm}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|335|Zangoose|||Crush Claw}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|336|Seviper|||Poison Tail|Poison Tail}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|351|Castform|||Weather Ball}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|363|Spheal|||Ice Ball|Ice Ball|Ice Ball}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|364|Sealeo|||Ice Ball|Ice Ball|Ice Ball}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|365|Walrein|||Ice Ball|Ice Ball|Ice Ball}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|380|Latias|||Mist Ball|Mist Ball|Mist Ball|Mist Ball}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|381|Latios|||Luster Purge|Luster Purge|Luster Purge|Luster Purge}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|382|Kyogre||||||Origin Pulse}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|383|Groudon||||||Precipice Blades}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|384|Rayquaza||||||Dragon Ascent}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|385|Jirachi|||Doom Desire|Doom Desire|Doom Desire|Doom Desire}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|386|Deoxys|||Psycho Boost|Psycho Boost|Psycho Boost|Psycho Boost|forms=4|form2=Attack Forme|form3=Defense Forme|form4=Speed Forme}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|416|Vespiquen||||Defend Order|Defend Order|Defend Order|GenIVmv2=Heal Order|GenVmv2=Heal Order|GenVImv2=Heal Order|GenIVmv3=Attack Order|GenVmv3=Attack Order|GenVImv3=Attack Order}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|441|Chatot||||Chatter|Chatter|Chatter}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|464|Rhyperior||||Rock Wrecker}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|474|Porygon-Z||||Conversion|Conversion|Conversion|GenIVmv2=Conversion 2|GenVmv2=Conversion 2|GenVImv2=Conversion 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|483|Dialga||||Roar of Time|Roar of Time|Roar of Time}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|484|Palkia||||Spacial Rend|Spacial Rend|Spacial Rend}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|485|Heatran||||Magma Storm|Magma Storm|Magma Storm}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|486|Regigigas||||Crush Grip|Crush Grip|Crush Grip}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|487|Giratina||||Shadow Force|Shadow Force|Shadow Force|forms=2|form2=Origin Forme}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|488|Cresselia||||Lunar Dance|Lunar Dance|Lunar Dance}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|490|Manaphy||||Heart Swap|Heart Swap|Heart Swap}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|491|Darkrai||||Dark Void|Dark Void|Dark Void}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|492|Shaymin||||Seed Flare|Seed Flare|Seed Flare|forms=2|form2=Sky Forme}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|493|Arceus||||Judgment|Judgment|Judgment}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|494|Victini|||||Searing Shot|Searing Shot}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|498|Tepig|||||Heat Crash|Heat Crash}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|499|Pignite|||||Heat Crash|Heat Crash}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|500|Emboar|||||Heat Crash|Heat Crash}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|531|Audino|||||Secret Power|Secret Power|until6=Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|538|Throh|||||Storm Throw|until5=Pokémon Black 2 and White 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|570|Zorua|||||Night Daze|Night Daze}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|571|Zoroark|||||Night Daze|Night Daze}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|572|Minccino|||||Tail Slap|Tail Slap}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|573|Cinccino|||||Tail Slap|Tail Slap}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|577|Solosis|||||Skill Swap|until5=Pokémon Black 2 and White 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|578|Duosion|||||Skill Swap|until5=Pokémon Black 2 and White 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|579|Reuniclus|||||Skill Swap|until5=Pokémon Black 2 and White 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|586|Sawsbuck|||||Horn Leech|forms=4|form2=Summer|form3=Autumn|form4=Winter}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|595|Joltik|||||Electroweb|Electroweb|until5=Pokémon Black 2 and White 2|until6=Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|596|Galvantula|||||Electroweb|Electroweb|until5=Pokémon Black 2 and White 2|until6=Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|599|Klink|||||Gear Grind|Gear Grind|GenVmv2=Shift Gear|GenVImv2=Shift Gear}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|600|Klang|||||Gear Grind|Gear Grind|GenVmv2=Shift Gear|GenVImv2=Shift Gear}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|601|Klinklang|||||Gear Grind|Gear Grind|GenVmv2=Shift Gear|GenVImv2=Shift Gear}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|626|Bouffalant|||||Head Charge|Head Charge}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|637|Volcarona|||||Fiery Dance|Fiery Dance}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|638|Cobalion|||||Sacred Sword}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|639|Terrakion|||||Sacred Sword}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|640|Virizion|||||Sacred Sword}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|643|Reshiram|||||Fusion Flare|Fusion Flare|GenVmv2=Blue Flare|GenVImv2=Blue Flare}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|644|Zekrom|||||Fusion Bolt|Fusion Bolt|GenVmv2=Bolt Strike|GenVImv2=Bolt Strike}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|646|Kyurem|||||Glaciate|Glaciate|form=Normal Kyurem}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|646|Kyurem|||||Fusion Flare|Fusion Flare|GenVmv2=Ice Burn|GenVImv2=Ice Burn|form=White Kyurem}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|646|Kyurem|||||Fusion Bolt|Fusion Bolt|GenVmv2=Freeze Shock|GenVImv2=Freeze Shock|form=Black Kyurem}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|647|Keldeo|||||Secret Sword|Secret Sword|GenVmv2=Sacred Sword|forms=2|form2=Resolute Form}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|648|Meloetta|||||Relic Song|Relic Song|forms=2|form2=Pirouette Forme}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|649|Genesect|||||Techno Blast|Techno Blast}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|652|Chesnaught||||||Spiky Shield|until6=Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|655|Delphox||||||Mystical Fire|until6=Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|658|Greninja||||||Water Shuriken|GenVImv2=Mat Block|until6=Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|666|Vivillon||||||Powder}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|667|Litleo||||||Noble Roar}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|668|Pyroar||||||Noble Roar}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|670|Floette||||||Light of Ruin|form=Eternal Flower}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|674|Pancham||||||Parting Shot}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|675|Pangoro||||||Parting Shot}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|681|Aegislash||||||King&#039;s Shield}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|683|Aromatisse||||||Aromatic Mist}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|686|Inkay||||||Topsy-Turvy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|687|Malamar||||||Topsy-Turvy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|694|Helioptile||||||Electrify}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|695|Heliolisk||||||Electrify}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|701|Hawlucha||||||Flying Press|until6=Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|707|Klefki||||||Fairy Lock|GenVImv2=Crafty Shield}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|708|Phantump||||||Forest&#039;s Curse}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|709|Trevenant||||||Forest&#039;s Curse}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|710|Pumpkaboo||||||Trick-or-Treat}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|711|Gourgeist||||||Trick-or-Treat}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|716|Xerneas||||||Geomancy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|717|Yveltal||||||Oblivion Wing}} &lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|718|Zygarde||||||Land&#039;s Wrath}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|719|Diancie||||||Diamond Storm}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|720|Hoopa||||||Hyperspace Hole|form=Hoopa Confined}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|720|Hoopa||||||Hyperspace Fury|form=Hoopa Unbound}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{SignatureMove|721|Volcanion||||||Steam Eruption}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Shadow moves===&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;roundy&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;margin:auto; background:#{{XD color dark}}; border:5px solid #{{XD color}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#{{XD color}}; {{roundytl|5px}}&amp;quot; | #&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#{{XD color}}&amp;quot; | Pokémon&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#{{XD color}}; {{roundytr|5px}}&amp;quot; | Move&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background:#fff&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| width=&amp;quot;26px&amp;quot; | 144&lt;br /&gt;
| width=&amp;quot;32px&amp;quot; | [[File:Menu XD 144.png|link=Articuno (Pokémon)]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Articuno}}&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#{{XD color light}}&amp;quot; | {{mcolor|Shadow Chill|FFF}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background:#fff&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 145&lt;br /&gt;
| [[File:Menu XD 145.png|link=Zapdos (Pokémon)]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Zapdos}}&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#{{XD color light}}&amp;quot; | {{mcolor|Shadow Bolt|FFF}}&lt;br /&gt;
|- style=&amp;quot;background:#fff&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 146&lt;br /&gt;
| [[File:Menu XD 146.png|link=Moltres (Pokémon)]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{p|Moltres}}&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#{{XD color light}}&amp;quot; | {{mcolor|Shadow Fire|FFF}}&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| style=&amp;quot;background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}&amp;quot; | 249&lt;br /&gt;
| style=&amp;quot;background:#fff&amp;quot; | [[File:Menu XD 249S.png|link=Shadow Lugia]]&lt;br /&gt;
| style=&amp;quot;background:#fff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[Shadow Lugia|Shadow]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{p|Lugia}}&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#{{XD color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}}&amp;quot; | {{mcolor|Shadow Blast|FFF}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==One-off signature moves==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Victini event moves.png|thumb|Victini using Fusion Flare, Fusion Bolt, and V-create]]&lt;br /&gt;
This is a list of signature moves that at only one point, another Pokémon had the ability to acquire:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* A {{p|Dratini}} that knows &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Extreme Speed|ExtremeSpeed}}&#039;&#039;&#039; is obtainable in {{game|Crystal}}, {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s|HeartGold, and SoulSilver}} after answering a quiz in the [[Dragon&#039;s Den]].&lt;br /&gt;
* An Egg will be given by the Day-Care Man in {{game|Crystal}} that hatches into a random baby Pokémon that knows &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Dizzy Punch}}&#039;&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
* A {{p|Skitty}} with &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Pay Day}}&#039;&#039;&#039; can be obtained from a special {{pkmn|Egg}} after depositing 500 Pokémon in [[Pokémon Box Ruby &amp;amp; Sapphire]] from a Game Boy Advance game pak.&lt;br /&gt;
* After [[Shadow Lugia|Lugia]] from [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]] has been purified, it learns &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Psycho Boost}}&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Feather Dance|FeatherDance}}&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* After {{p|Articuno}}, {{p|Zapdos}}, and {{p|Moltres}} from Pokémon XD have been purified, they all learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Extrasensory}}&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* A {{p|Darkrai}} with &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Roar of Time}}&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Spacial Rend}}&#039;&#039;&#039; was available as a special giveaway to commemorate the [[M10|10th movie]].&lt;br /&gt;
* An {{p|Arceus}} with &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Roar of Time}}&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Spacial Rend}}&#039;&#039;&#039;, and &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Shadow Force}}&#039;&#039;&#039; was available as a special giveaway to commemorate the [[M12|12th movie]].&lt;br /&gt;
* A {{p|Victini}} with &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Fusion Flare}}&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Fusion Bolt}}&#039;&#039;&#039; was available as a special giveaway to commemorate the [[M14|14th movie]].&lt;br /&gt;
* A Victini with &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Glaciate}}&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Bolt Strike}}&#039;&#039;&#039;, and &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Blue Flare}}&#039;&#039;&#039; was available as a special giveaway to celebrate Christmas 2012.&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Other signature move examples==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dialga Roar of Time.png|thumb|right|200px|{{p|Dialga}} using its signature move, {{m|Roar of Time}}, in &#039;&#039;[[M10|The Rise of Darkrai]]&#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
===TM/HM or Move Tutor that are exclusive by level-up===&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Squirtle}} and its evolutionary relatives are the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Skull Bash}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up in [[Generation I]], but other Pokémon could learn it through [[TM40]].&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Abra}} and its evolutionary relatives are the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Teleport}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up in [[Generation I]], but other Pokémon could learn it through [[TM30]].&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Sudowoodo}} is the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Mimic}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up in [[Generation II]], but other Pokémon could learn it through [[TM31]] in Generation I and [[Move Tutor]] in [[Generation III]].&lt;br /&gt;
* In [[Generation]]s {{gen|II}}, {{gen|IV}}, {{gen|V}} and {{gen|VI}} and {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}, {{p|Hitmonlee}} is the only Pokémon who can learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Mega Kick}}&#039;&#039;&#039;. However, in Generation I and {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, others could learn it through [[TM]] and Move Tutor respectively.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Waterfall}}&#039;&#039;&#039; was the signature move of {{p|Goldeen}} and {{p|Seaking}} in Generation I, before it became an [[HM]]. They are still the only ones to learn it by level up.&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Unown}} can learn only &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Hidden Power}}&#039;&#039;&#039;, and is the only Pokémon to learn it in Generation II; however, almost every other Pokémon can learn it via [[TM10]] in Generation II and beyond.&lt;br /&gt;
* Although several Pokémon can learn it by TM, until Generation III only {{p|Diglett}} and {{p|Dugtrio}} could learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Dig}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by level up.&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Sunflora}} is the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Bullet Seed}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by level up in Generation III, though other Pokémon could learn it through [[TM09]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Prior to [[Generation V]], {{p|Vigoroth}} is the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Focus Punch}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up, although many other Pokémon can learn it via [[TM01]].&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Porygon-Z}} is the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Trick Room}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up prior to [[Generation VI]], although that move could also be learned via [[TM92]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Almost every Pokémon is able to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Facade}}&#039;&#039;&#039; via [[TM42]]. However, {{p|Chimchar}} is the only one to learn it by leveling up prior to Generation V.&lt;br /&gt;
* Although only {{p|Panpour}} and {{p|Simipour|its evolution}} are the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Scald}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up in Generation V, other Pokémon can learn it via [[TM55]].&lt;br /&gt;
** Also in Generation V only, {{p|Pansage}} is the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Grass Knot}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up, yet other Pokémon can learn it via [[TM86]].&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Kadabra}} and {{p|Alakazam}} are the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Ally Switch}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up, but other Pokémon can learn it through [[TM51]] in Generation V.&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Volbeat}} is the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Flash}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up, but other Pokémon can learn it through [[HM05]]/[[TM70]].&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Sawk}} is the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Rock Smash}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up, but other Pokémon can learn it through [[TM94]]/[[HM06]] in Generation V and VI.&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Emolga}} is the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Volt Switch}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up in Generation V, but other Pokémon can learn it through [[TM72]].&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Yveltal}} is the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Snarl}}&#039;&#039;&#039; (before {{pkmn|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}) or &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Focus Blast}}&#039;&#039;&#039;  by leveling up, but other Pokémon can learn them via [[TM95]] and [[TM52]], respectively.&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Snorunt}} and {{p|Glalie}} are the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Frost Breath}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up (starting in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire), but other Pokémon can learn it via [[TM79]].&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Lucario}} is the only Pokémon to learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Power-Up Punch}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up, but other Pokémon can learn it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Moves commonly associated with certain Pokémon===&lt;br /&gt;
* Although &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Megahorn}}&#039;&#039;&#039; was no longer {{p|Heracross}}&#039;s signature move starting in [[Generation III]], it was still the only {{type|Bug}} Pokémon that could learn the move prior to [[Generation V]], where Megahorn is now learnable by {{p|Scolipede}}, {{p|Karrablast}} and {{p|Escavalier}}.&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Lucario}} is usually associated with &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Aura Sphere}}&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Force Palm}}&#039;&#039;&#039;, but ten Pokémon (including Lucario) can learn Aura Sphere in total plus two with {{p|Riolu}} from Almia and {{p|Raikou}} from an event, in addition to the {{p|Squirtle}} family through breeding. 10 Pokémon (including Lucario) can learn Force Palm. In Generation V and VI, Lucario and the Mienshao family are the only Fighting-type Pokémon to learn Aura Sphere by leveling up.&lt;br /&gt;
** Lucario no longer learns Force Palm in Generation VI (although {{p|Riolu}} can still learn it).&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Venusaur}}, {{p|Charizard}}, and {{p|Blastoise}} are often associated with &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Solar Beam}}&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Flamethrower}}&#039;&#039;&#039;, and &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Hydro Pump}}&#039;&#039;&#039;, respectively, due to them frequently being depicted using those moves in various Pokémon media (such as the anime).&lt;br /&gt;
** In [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]], {{p|Charizard}}&#039;s trophy states that &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Flamethrower}}&#039;&#039;&#039; is its signature move.&lt;br /&gt;
* Electrode are most commonly seen using {{m|Explosion}}, with it being shown to use it most in the {{pkmn|anime}}.&lt;br /&gt;
* Although several Pokémon have been able to learn {{m|Sing}} since its introduction, the move is heavily associated with {{p|Jigglypuff}} due to the {{an|Jigglypuff}} in the anime.&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Jolteon}} and {{p|Vaporeon}}&#039;s signature moves are said to be &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Pin Missile}}&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Acid Armor}}&#039;&#039;&#039;, respectively. Both abilities are alluded to in both Pokémon&#039;s various Pokédex entries. However, many Pokémon learn both moves by leveling up, and some through {{pkmn|breeding}}. Likewise, {{p|Umbreon}}&#039;s &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Moonlight}}&#039;&#039;&#039; matches {{p|Espeon}}&#039;s &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Morning Sun}}&#039;&#039;&#039;, though others can learn it even in its introductory generation.&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Suicune}}, being known as the Aurora Pokémon, is associated with the move &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Aurora Beam}}&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* Although {{p|Clefairy}} can learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Meteor Mash}}&#039;&#039;&#039; by leveling up in any Generation III game, the only Pokémon that could have it legitimately before release of {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}} were {{p|Metang}} and its evolved form, {{p|Metagross}}.&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Ditto}} has &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Transform}}&#039;&#039;&#039; as its only move and is most associated with it; however, {{p|Mew}} is also able to learn it.&lt;br /&gt;
* Until Generation III, {{p|Koffing}} and {{p|Weezing}} were the only Poison-type Pokémon capable of learning &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Smog}}&#039;&#039;&#039;, and are still the only Poison-type Pokémon to learn the move by level-up.&lt;br /&gt;
* The move &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Razor Shell}}&#039;&#039;&#039; is tied to {{p|Oshawott}}&#039;s evolutionary line, although it can also be learned by {{p|Shellder}}.&lt;br /&gt;
* Although &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Blaze Kick}}&#039;&#039;&#039; was no longer {{p|Blaziken}}&#039;s signature move from Generation III, it remains the only Fire-type Pokémon to learn it by level up.&lt;br /&gt;
* The {{p|Venipede}} family are the only Pokémon besides {{p|Golem}} which can learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Steamroller}}&#039;&#039;&#039;. They are also the only Bug-type Pokémon to learn it.&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Castform}} was the only Pokémon capable of learning &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Weather Ball}}&#039;&#039;&#039; prior to [[Generation IV]]. However, due to [[Shadow move]]s only being present in [[Generation III]], it remains the only Pokémon capable of taking advantage of Weather Ball&#039;s &#039;&#039;&#039;{{type|???}}&#039;&#039;&#039; effect during {{m|Shadow Sky}}.&lt;br /&gt;
* Each of {{p|Rotom}}&#039;s forms has its own signature move that cannot be carried over to any of its other forms. However, none of these five moves are exclusive to it.&lt;br /&gt;
* In Generation V, &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Sacred Sword}}&#039;&#039;&#039; was exclusively learned by the [[Swords of Justice]], being a signature move of a Legendary group rather than an evolutionary family.&lt;br /&gt;
** Similarly, &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Fusion Flare}}&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|Fusion Bolt}}&#039;&#039;&#039; are exclusively learned by {{p|Reshiram}} and [[List of Pokémon with form differences#Kyurem|White]] {{p|Kyurem}}, and {{p|Zekrom}} and [[List of Pokémon with form differences#Kyurem|Black]] {{p|Kyurem}}, respectively. Kyurem&#039;s forms are the result of absorbing Reshiram or Zekrom, and thus gain some of their traits and powers.&lt;br /&gt;
* No Pokémon can learn &#039;&#039;&#039;{{m|V-create}}&#039;&#039;&#039; outside of event distributions. {{p|Victini}} was the first to gain access to it and is often associated with the move. However, later, a {{p|Rayquaza}} with V-create was available as the winner of a [[List of local Japanese event Pokémon distributions in Generation V#15th Anniversary Rayquaza|popularity poll held in Japan in 2011]], making it no longer Victini&#039;s signature move.&lt;br /&gt;
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==In the anime==&lt;br /&gt;
In the {{pkmn|anime}}, it is uncommon for specific moves to be explicitly stated to be exclusive to a certain Pokémon species. The concept was mentioned during a quiz challenge in &#039;&#039;[[DP126|Classroom Training!]]&#039;&#039;, in which [[Candice]] stated that {{m|Pay Day}} could only be learned by {{p|Meowth}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* {{p|Hitmonlee}} has had the most signature moves, with four in Generation II; however, only two of them are still Hitmonlee&#039;s signature moves. The other was also previously available to other Pokémon through [[TM]]s and [[Move Tutor]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
** The Pokémon with the most signature moves in Generation VI is {{p|Vespiquen}}, with three—{{m|Attack Order}}, {{m|Defend Order}}, and {{m|Heal Order}}—all of which are {{type|Bug}}.&lt;br /&gt;
* All [[Hoenn]] [[starter Pokémon]] could learn a signature move after evolution, although these moves can (from [[Generation IV]] onwards) be learned by other evolutionary families as well.&lt;br /&gt;
**All [[Kalos]] [[starter Pokémon]] can similarly learn signature moves after evolution, with {{p|Greninja}} even getting two.&lt;br /&gt;
* Due to {{p|Smeargle}}&#039;s {{m|Sketch}} being able to copy signature moves, from Generation II onward the only moves that only one Pokémon can learn are Sketch itself, {{m|Shadow Chill}}, {{m|Shadow Bolt}}, {{m|Shadow Fire}}, {{m|Shadow Blast}}, and {{m|Chatter}}. This is because [[Shadow move]]s and Chatter cannot be Sketched.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Game-exclusive moves]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Signature Ability]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}&lt;br /&gt;
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	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gender_unknown&amp;diff=2454183</id>
		<title>Talk:Gender unknown</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gender_unknown&amp;diff=2454183"/>
		<updated>2016-06-05T07:12:22Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Deletion */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The question, is this programmed into the games? Far as I knew, the egg groups are taken from the actual game programming, and the Pokémon that are genderless can&#039;t breed with anything but Ditto. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 02:08, 27 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well? &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:18, 28 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*taps foot*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; I&#039;m waaaaaaiting. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Dunno?--[[User:Kuki|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#b00000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Kuki&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kuki|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2c41a4;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Ta&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#049440;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;lk&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:09, 5 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::He,he, nevermind, I found it (stupid me).  So, TTEchidna, how&#039;s my sprites?[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 00:17, 5 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What now? &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:37, 5 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Anyway... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Seriously, is this programmed into the games, or is it more of a subcategory for genderless Pokémon that can breed? &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 03:45, 5 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:i dont think this is programed into the games, but, it should probably be mentioned. after all, a Magnemite and Geodude are in the same group (mineral) but they cant breed together. -- &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAG&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#696969;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 03:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remove genderless Pokemon from other egg group pages?==&lt;br /&gt;
Yes or no? [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 09:35, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No. They&#039;re in those egg groups according to the game programming. This page exists because Nintendo knew there&#039;d be a bunch of people writing letters and saying &amp;quot;Y CANT MY MAGENMIT BRED W/ MY STELIX?!&amp;quot;, and so listed the genderless breeders separately in Stadium 2. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 14:10, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Trivia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The trivia section states that all members belong only to this group, yet they are still listed among the other egg groups as well.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;midnightblue&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;$aturn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;¥oshi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;maroon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE VOICES&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:29, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s because they &#039;&#039;are&#039;&#039; in the other groups. This comes from stupid Stadium 2&#039;s stupid classification because Pokémon fans have demonstrated [[the truck|time]] and [[Form differences#Shaymin|again]] that there&#039;s nothing dumber than we are. They likely made up that listing because they didn&#039;t want people to be whining about not being able to breed their Onix with a Magneton. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 22:37, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::...why, exactly, are you fixating on that combination? --[[User:Martonimos|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#008000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Martonimos&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:Martonimos|((&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#00FF00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Argh&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#50C878&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blargh&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;))]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 22:40, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Because it&#039;s a convenient one? I&#039;m not gonna go say &amp;quot;Y KANT MI GARDEVOUR BRED W/ MY ROTTOM&amp;quot; because Garde and Rotom get enough questions about their egg groups...&lt;br /&gt;
:::Specifically why Garde&#039;s not in Humanshape and if Rotom&#039;s a legendary. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 22:48, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I&#039;m not saying that they &#039;&#039;shouldn&#039;t&#039;&#039; be listed in other groups, just that the trivia says they are &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039;.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;midnightblue&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;$aturn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;¥oshi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;maroon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE VOICES&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:47, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Correction.  You sure work faster than I can get my point across...  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;midnightblue&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;$aturn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;¥oshi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;maroon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE VOICES&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:49, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rotom, Manaphy/Phione ==&lt;br /&gt;
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According to the pages, Manaphy/Phione is also in the Water1/Fairy groups, and Rotom is in the Indeterminate group. If these truly belong as part of this egg group, they need to be put in a separate table for &amp;quot;also in other groups&amp;quot;.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 19:03, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Here&#039;s the thing. The &amp;quot;Gender unknown&amp;quot; egg group is simply a listing of the breedable Pokémon which lack genders, because Nintendo thought people were stupid and would attempt to breed Onix and Magnemite. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 22:35, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Well then, the header shouldn&#039;t say &amp;quot;Only in this egg group&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Nevermind.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 18:47, 2 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== ? ==&lt;br /&gt;
Shouldn&#039;t this article be called Gender unknown Pokémon rather than than Gender unknown (egg group)?? why is it an egg group from the first place?--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 08:33, 22 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Stadium 2 listed genderless Pokémon who were able to breed (only with Ditto) as a distinct egg group.  This article is a reflection and extension of that.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:13, 22 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hey guys. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why is this listed as part of the total of egg groups (16), if {{type|???}} isn&#039;t listed as part of the total of types (17)?&lt;br /&gt;
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Could it be that... a der, the ???-type is just like this egg group: a side note. So. I&#039;m saying in the other articles, only count 15 egg groups, mention, like the ???-type, that this is a &amp;quot;special&amp;quot; grouping, but &#039;&#039;not count it&#039;&#039;. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 09:45, 9 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deletion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This does not appear to have been discussed in more than half a decade, so I think our standards have tightened enough since then that it&#039;s worth a second look at this page.&lt;br /&gt;
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(1) First and foremost, since this does not actually exist in any game except Stadium 2, I think this should be deleted and simply mentioned in the Stadium 2 article. At the very least, even if this page isn&#039;t deleted, we need to demote it so it isn&#039;t mentioned as if it was a normal Egg Group and so it doesn&#039;t appear in the Egg Group navigation box. It isn&#039;t a real group, and it doesn&#039;t appear in the games&#039; programming, so I really feel it&#039;s even less canonical than the {{t|Bird}} type, which at least &#039;&#039;was&#039;&#039; actually programmed in even if it was scrapped before release.&lt;br /&gt;
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(2) On a separate note, since this seems to have only existed in Stadium 2, why have we been adding all the genderless breedable Pokémon that have been introduced in Generation III and beyond??? If it&#039;s true that this group only existed in Stadium 2, then &#039;&#039;all those Pokémon have never belonged to this group&#039;&#039; and should in no conceivable way be on this list. This is a ridiculous fanonical overexpansion, and if this page remains I really feel like it should cover &#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039; what is official — the Pokémon that Stadium 2 listed in it.&lt;br /&gt;
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That&#039;s my soapbox. Sorry if it was a bit of a rant. Please discuss. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:41, 5 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:While I fully understand where you&#039;re coming from, I think that genderless breedable Pokémon need to be differentiated in some way. While we&#039;re on this topic, I don&#039;t like how they&#039;re mixed in among other members of their own egg group (such as Mineral), giving them the illusion that they can breed with other members of that group, when they can&#039;t.&lt;br /&gt;
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:What I think would be a fair solution is to delete this page (but perhaps create a &amp;quot;list&amp;quot; page that contains all the Pokémon seen here), and on the individual egg group pages that contain genderless Pokémon, sort them out into a separate table at the bottom. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 07:11, 5 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gender_unknown&amp;diff=2454182</id>
		<title>Talk:Gender unknown</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gender_unknown&amp;diff=2454182"/>
		<updated>2016-06-05T07:12:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Deletion */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The question, is this programmed into the games? Far as I knew, the egg groups are taken from the actual game programming, and the Pokémon that are genderless can&#039;t breed with anything but Ditto. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 02:08, 27 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well? &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 05:18, 28 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*taps foot*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; I&#039;m waaaaaaiting. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Dunno?--[[User:Kuki|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#b00000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Kuki&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Kuki|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#2c41a4;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Ta&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#049440;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;lk&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:09, 5 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::He,he, nevermind, I found it (stupid me).  So, TTEchidna, how&#039;s my sprites?[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 00:17, 5 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What now? &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 00:37, 5 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Anyway... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Seriously, is this programmed into the games, or is it more of a subcategory for genderless Pokémon that can breed? &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 03:45, 5 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:i dont think this is programed into the games, but, it should probably be mentioned. after all, a Magnemite and Geodude are in the same group (mineral) but they cant breed together. -- &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;MAG&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#696969;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;NE&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#000033;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;DETH&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 03:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Remove genderless Pokemon from other egg group pages?==&lt;br /&gt;
Yes or no? [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 09:35, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:No. They&#039;re in those egg groups according to the game programming. This page exists because Nintendo knew there&#039;d be a bunch of people writing letters and saying &amp;quot;Y CANT MY MAGENMIT BRED W/ MY STELIX?!&amp;quot;, and so listed the genderless breeders separately in Stadium 2. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 14:10, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Trivia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The trivia section states that all members belong only to this group, yet they are still listed among the other egg groups as well.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;midnightblue&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;$aturn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;¥oshi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;maroon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE VOICES&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:29, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s because they &#039;&#039;are&#039;&#039; in the other groups. This comes from stupid Stadium 2&#039;s stupid classification because Pokémon fans have demonstrated [[the truck|time]] and [[Form differences#Shaymin|again]] that there&#039;s nothing dumber than we are. They likely made up that listing because they didn&#039;t want people to be whining about not being able to breed their Onix with a Magneton. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 22:37, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::...why, exactly, are you fixating on that combination? --[[User:Martonimos|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#008000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Martonimos&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:Martonimos|((&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#00FF00&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Argh&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#50C878&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Blargh&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;))]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 22:40, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Because it&#039;s a convenient one? I&#039;m not gonna go say &amp;quot;Y KANT MI GARDEVOUR BRED W/ MY ROTTOM&amp;quot; because Garde and Rotom get enough questions about their egg groups...&lt;br /&gt;
:::Specifically why Garde&#039;s not in Humanshape and if Rotom&#039;s a legendary. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 22:48, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I&#039;m not saying that they &#039;&#039;shouldn&#039;t&#039;&#039; be listed in other groups, just that the trivia says they are &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039;.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;midnightblue&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;$aturn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;¥oshi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;maroon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE VOICES&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:47, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Correction.  You sure work faster than I can get my point across...  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;midnightblue&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;$aturn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;¥oshi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;maroon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE VOICES&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:49, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rotom, Manaphy/Phione ==&lt;br /&gt;
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According to the pages, Manaphy/Phione is also in the Water1/Fairy groups, and Rotom is in the Indeterminate group. If these truly belong as part of this egg group, they need to be put in a separate table for &amp;quot;also in other groups&amp;quot;.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 19:03, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Here&#039;s the thing. The &amp;quot;Gender unknown&amp;quot; egg group is simply a listing of the breedable Pokémon which lack genders, because Nintendo thought people were stupid and would attempt to breed Onix and Magnemite. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 22:35, 1 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Well then, the header shouldn&#039;t say &amp;quot;Only in this egg group&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Nevermind.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 18:47, 2 July 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== ? ==&lt;br /&gt;
Shouldn&#039;t this article be called Gender unknown Pokémon rather than than Gender unknown (egg group)?? why is it an egg group from the first place?--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 08:33, 22 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Stadium 2 listed genderless Pokémon who were able to breed (only with Ditto) as a distinct egg group.  This article is a reflection and extension of that.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:13, 22 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hey guys. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why is this listed as part of the total of egg groups (16), if {{type|???}} isn&#039;t listed as part of the total of types (17)?&lt;br /&gt;
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Could it be that... a der, the ???-type is just like this egg group: a side note. So. I&#039;m saying in the other articles, only count 15 egg groups, mention, like the ???-type, that this is a &amp;quot;special&amp;quot; grouping, but &#039;&#039;not count it&#039;&#039;. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;TTE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 09:45, 9 June 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deletion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This does not appear to have been discussed in more than half a decade, so I think our standards have tightened enough since then that it&#039;s worth a second look at this page.&lt;br /&gt;
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(1) First and foremost, since this does not actually exist in any game except Stadium 2, I think this should be deleted and simply mentioned in the Stadium 2 article. At the very least, even if this page isn&#039;t deleted, we need to demote it so it isn&#039;t mentioned as if it was a normal Egg Group and so it doesn&#039;t appear in the Egg Group navigation box. It isn&#039;t a real group, and it doesn&#039;t appear in the games&#039; programming, so I really feel it&#039;s even less canonical than the {{t|Bird}} type, which at least &#039;&#039;was&#039;&#039; actually programmed in even if it was scrapped before release.&lt;br /&gt;
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(2) On a separate note, since this seems to have only existed in Stadium 2, why have we been adding all the genderless breedable Pokémon that have been introduced in Generation III and beyond??? If it&#039;s true that this group only existed in Stadium 2, then &#039;&#039;all those Pokémon have never belonged to this group&#039;&#039; and should in no conceivable way be on this list. This is a ridiculous fanonical overexpansion, and if this page remains I really feel like it should cover &#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039; what is official — the Pokémon that Stadium 2 listed in it.&lt;br /&gt;
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That&#039;s my soapbox. Sorry if it was a bit of a rant. Please discuss. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:41, 5 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:While I fully understand where you&#039;re coming from, I think that genderless breedable Pokémon need to be differentiated in some way. While we&#039;re on this topic, I don&#039;t like how they&#039;re mixed in among other members of their own egg group (such as Mineral), giving them the illusion that they can breed with other members of that group, when they can&#039;t.&lt;br /&gt;
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What I think would be a fair solution is to delete this page (but perhaps create a &amp;quot;list&amp;quot; page that contains all the Pokémon seen here), and on the individual egg group pages that contain genderless Pokémon, sort them out into a separate table at the bottom. — [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 07:11, 5 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
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		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Solgaleo_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&amp;diff=2454077</id>
		<title>Talk:Solgaleo (Pokémon)</title>
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		<updated>2016-06-05T02:57:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Russian name==&lt;br /&gt;
Hello could someone add that this line to the in other languages section?&lt;br /&gt;
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|ru=Солгалео &#039;&#039;Solgaleo&#039;&#039;|rumeaning=Transcription of English name&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Raltseye|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF6464&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#11BB11&amp;quot;&amp;gt;alts&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Raltseye|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6890F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6464FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;y&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6890F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 13:50, 2 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Generation VII Pokemon tag ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This page needs to be included with the other Generation VII Pokemon. Lunala should be tagged as Gen. VII as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User: CWallace |&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family: Tw Cen MT;color:#00CED1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;C.Wallace&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] ([[User_talk: CWallace |&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family: Tw Cen MT&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]|[[Special:Contributions/CWallace|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family: Tw Cen MT&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Contribs&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]) 15:18, 2 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mythology ==&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s probably based on the alchemical lion. (http://atlanteangardens.blogspot.com/2014/06/alchemy-green-lion-devouring-sun.html)  In alchemical mysticism the lion devouring the sun is symbolism for extracting gold by melting away impurities with acidic substances. {{unsigned|Zeta}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Page protection and awful writing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why is this page protected? What&#039;s the point of having a wiki if people can&#039;t edit it? The community is not large enough (as Wikipedia&#039;s is) to justify only letting admins edit a page, especially when the admins have such a terrible grasp of language. For example, &amp;quot;It may also involve Galileo, an ancient astronomer who believe the Earth rotated around the sun.&amp;quot; Firstly, it was slightly better before [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Solgaleo_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&amp;amp;type=revision&amp;amp;diff=2452876&amp;amp;oldid=2452708 this edit] (although the other changes in that edit were good). &#039;&#039;Incorporate&#039;&#039; is a much better word to use than &#039;&#039;involve&#039;&#039;. Secondly, there is an obvious grammatical error in the sentence. And thirdly, Galileo didn&#039;t &amp;quot;believe&amp;quot; the Earth rotated around the Sun (which should start with a capital in that context); he &#039;&#039;knew&#039;&#039; the Earth rotated around the Sun. He worked it out using science. It&#039;s a fact and therefore is not a belief. Can someone please either make these changes or unprotect the page so that others can edit (which is the entire point of a wiki)? [[User:McLerristarr|McLerristarr]] ([[User talk:McLerristarr|talk]]) 21:15, 2 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It is fully protected to prevent users from adding speculation and other unconfirmed information. It is standard procedure when a new Pokémon is released.--[[User:Force Fire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AB2813&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;F&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C87365&amp;quot;&amp;gt;orce&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Force Fire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#26649C&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;F&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#729ABF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ire&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 03:28, 3 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, I think the reference to heliocentrism should be removed altogether. After all, it was Copernicus&#039;s theory first (and Aristarchus&#039;s idea long before that). Galileo just supported and defended it from criticism; he didn&#039;t really contribute to it. His relation to the Sun was really just his studies on sunspots. It could, however, be phrased &amp;quot;...{{wp|Galileo}}, a famous astronomer who studied the Sun.&amp;quot; -- [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 06:53, 4 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::There&#039;s nothing particularly wrong about the sentence as currently phrased. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:08, 4 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Ah, I hadn&#039;t noticed that the sentence referencing Galileo had been changed since yesterday. That&#039;s my bad. But yeah, I agree, what&#039;s on there now seems totally fine to me as well. -- [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 07:15, 4 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Beast that devours the sun ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The &amp;quot;beast that devours the sun&amp;quot; line is very, very obviously a reference to alchemy&#039;s green lion. Can we add that as a source of inspiration, or is it too based in speculation? [[User:Pacack| &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#ffe700&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pa&#039;&#039;&#039;ᗧ•••&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ᗣ&#039;&#039;&#039;ck&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 05:43, 3 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Considering its steel typing and obvious sun and lion motifs, I&#039;d have to agree honestly. It&#039;s pretty heavily obvious that it is based on the alchemy green lion, to at least a certain extent. - [[User:050294|050294]] ([[User talk:050294|talk]]) 16:45, 3 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Indeed, considering AZ/Project Azoth, the fact that the project was codenamed Pokemon Rainbow (rainbows were a guide in alchemical processes) and the symbol on Litten&#039;s forehead - its obvious someone on the creative team at GameFreak is drawing inspiration from alchemical mysticism. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] ([[User talk:Zeta|talk]]) 14:30, 4 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sun weak to Fire? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it worth mentioning in the trivia section that despite being based off of the sun, Solgaleo has a weakness to Fire-type moves? --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 18:34, 4 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Same as Lunala, I&#039;d say no. It&#039;s not notable enough in the slightest to be trivia. And technically there&#039;s no reason a Sun-based Pokémon can&#039;t be weak to fire. If this was an undersea Pokémon that was weak to water, maybe, but definitely not this. -- [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:57, 5 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lunala_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&amp;diff=2454074</id>
		<title>Talk:Lunala (Pokémon)</title>
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		<updated>2016-06-05T02:51:41Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Moon weak to Dark? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Russian name==&lt;br /&gt;
Hello could someone add that this line to the in other languages section?&lt;br /&gt;
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|ru=Лунала &#039;&#039;Lunala&#039;&#039;|rumeaning=Transcription of English name&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Raltseye|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF6464&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#11BB11&amp;quot;&amp;gt;alts&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Raltseye|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6890F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6464FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;y&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6890F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 13:49, 2 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==Name Origin==&lt;br /&gt;
Given that this Pokemon has that collar thing similar to dracuLA, the &amp;quot;La&amp;quot; in it&#039;s name may also be derived from that.&lt;br /&gt;
Luna - latin for moon&lt;br /&gt;
+ La - dracuLA&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Steamygoreng|Steamygoreng]] ([[User talk:Steamygoreng|talk]]) 22:44, 2 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Given it&#039;s clearly based on a bat, this seems plausible to me as well. -- [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 06:56, 4 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;quot;la&amp;quot; is hardly an iconic part of &amp;quot;Dracula&amp;quot;. That&#039;s not enough to say with any real confidence that that&#039;s part of the name. (And the other stuff isn&#039;t strongly evocative of Dracula/vampires either.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:05, 4 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Moon weak to Dark? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is it worth mentioning in the trivia section that despite being based off of the moon, Lunala has a double weakness to Dark-type moves? I know Dark-type is referred to as Evil-type in Japanese, but still, is that worth mentioning? --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 18:35, 4 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I would say no. There&#039;s no reason something moon-based CAN&#039;T be weak to Dark. After all, {{p|Lunatone}} is as well. -- [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:51, 5 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Color_Change_(Ability)&amp;diff=2454072</id>
		<title>Color Change (Ability)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Color_Change_(Ability)&amp;diff=2454072"/>
		<updated>2016-06-05T02:48:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: Added clarifying bits about Fire/Electric moves and burn/paralysis, as Fire-types are immune to burn from Gen V onward and Electric types to paralysis from Gen VI.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{AbilityInfobox&lt;br /&gt;
|name=Color Change&lt;br /&gt;
|jpname=へんしょく&lt;br /&gt;
|jptrans=Color Change&lt;br /&gt;
|jptranslit=Henshoku&lt;br /&gt;
|colorscheme=arceus&lt;br /&gt;
|gen=3&lt;br /&gt;
|text3=Changes type to foe&#039;s move.{{sup/3|RSEFRLG}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Changes type to target&#039;s move.{{sup/ss|Colo}}{{sup/ss|XD}}&lt;br /&gt;
|text4=Changes the Pokémon&#039;s type to the foe&#039;s move.&lt;br /&gt;
|text5=Changes the Pokémon&#039;s type to the foe&#039;s move.&lt;br /&gt;
|text6=The Pokémon&#039;s type becomes the type of the move used on it.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Color Change&#039;&#039;&#039; (Japanese: &#039;&#039;&#039;へんしょく&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Color Change&#039;&#039;) is an [[Ability]] introduced in [[Generation III]]. It is the [[signature Ability]] of {{p|Kecleon}}.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Effect==&lt;br /&gt;
===In battle===&lt;br /&gt;
====Generations III and IV====&lt;br /&gt;
When a Pokémon with this Ability is hit by a damage-dealing move (except {{m|Struggle}} and [[Shadow move]]s), Color Change will change the Pokémon&#039;s own type to the type of the move that it was hit by. Color Change does not activate if the Pokémon&#039;s {{m|substitute}} is hit.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even if the Pokémon with Color Change has two types, it will only have a single type after the effect is applied. If a Pokémon with this Ability is hit by {{m|Weather Ball}} during [[shadowy aura]], it will become {{type|Normal}}.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Color Change will activate after the first hit of a [[multi-strike move]]. {{m|Future Sight}} and {{m|Doom Desire}} do not activate Color Change.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Status condition]]s are inflicted before Color Change activates.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Generation V====&lt;br /&gt;
Color Change now activates after the last hit of a multi-strike move.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{m|Future Sight}} and {{m|Doom Desire}} now activate Color Change when they hit (they do not activate Color Change when used).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A Pokémon with Color Change can be [[burn|burned]] by a {{type|Fire}} move, as the secondary effect activates before the ability.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Generation VI====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A Pokémon with Color Change can be [[paralysis|paralyzed]] by an {{type|Electric}} move, as the secondary effect activates before the ability.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Outside of battle===&lt;br /&gt;
Color Change has no effect outside of battle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Pokémon with Color Change==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/head|arceus}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/entry|352|Kecleon|Normal|Normal|Color Change|None|Protean}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Ability/foot|arceus}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In the anime==&lt;br /&gt;
{{moveanime|type=arceus|exp=yes|gen=The user turns invisible to match its surroundings.|image1=Harrison Kecleon Color Change.png|image1p=Harrison&#039;s Kecleon|image2=Angela Kecleon Color Change.png|image2p=Angela&#039;s Kecleon}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=arceus|ms=352|pkmn=Kecleon|method=Kecleon&#039;s body turns invisible to blend in with its surroundings. The only thing visible after it changes is the red stripe on the center of its stomach.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=arceus|user=Madison and Alexa|user1=Madison&#039;s Reddy|startcode=EP205|startname=The Kecleon Caper|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=arceus|user=Madison and Alexa|user1=Alexa&#039;s Greeny|startcode=EP205|startname=The Kecleon Caper|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=arceus|user=Kecleon (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Kecleon|startcode=PK10|startname=Pikachu&#039;s Pikaboo}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=arceus|user=Harrison (Johto)|user1=Harrison&#039;s Kecleon|startcode=EP271|startname=Playing With Fire!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=arceus|user=Kecleon (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer&#039;s Kecleon|startcode=AG033|startname=Now That&#039;s Flower Power!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtm|type=arceus|user=Angela|user1=Angela&#039;s Kecleon|startcode=AG156|startname=From Cradle to Save}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In the manga==&lt;br /&gt;
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemanga|type=arceus|exp=yes|gen=The user turns invisible to blend in with its surroundings.|image1=Wally Kecleon Color Change Adventures.png|image1p=Kecleon}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=arceus|ms=352|pkmn=Kecleon|method=Kecleon turns invisible to match its surroundings.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtmManga|type=arceus|user=Wally (Adventures)|user1=Wally&#039;s Kecleon|startcode=PS187|startname=Tongue-Tied Kecleon|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* Color Change shares its Japanese name with a {{TCG|Pokémon Power}} which has a [[Venomoth (Jungle 13)|similar effect]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Color Change was the first Ability demonstrated in the anime.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In other languages==&lt;br /&gt;
{{langtable|color={{arceus color}}|bordercolor={{arceus color dark}}&lt;br /&gt;
|zh_cmn=變色 &#039;&#039;{{tt|Biàn​sè​|Color Change}}&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|nl=Kleur verandering&lt;br /&gt;
|fr=Déguisement&lt;br /&gt;
|de=Farbwechsel&lt;br /&gt;
|it=Cambiacolore&lt;br /&gt;
|pt=Troca de Cor&lt;br /&gt;
|es=Cambio Color&lt;br /&gt;
|ko=변색 &#039;&#039;Byeonsaek&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Abilities that activate upon taking damage]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[de:Farbwechsel]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[fr:Déguisement]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[it:Cambiacolore (abilità)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[ja:へんしょく]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[zh:变色（特性）]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Inferno_(move)&amp;diff=2454069</id>
		<title>Inferno (move)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Inferno_(move)&amp;diff=2454069"/>
		<updated>2016-06-05T02:36:26Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Effect */ This is mentioned on Color Change&amp;#039;s page and should not appear here. See talk page on Zap Cannon before reverting!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{bad picture|2=Should be replaced with Generation VI images}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{MoveInfobox|&lt;br /&gt;
n=517 |&lt;br /&gt;
name=Inferno |&lt;br /&gt;
jname=れんごく|&lt;br /&gt;
jtrans=Purgatory |&lt;br /&gt;
jtranslit=Rengoku|&lt;br /&gt;
gameimage=Inferno B2W2.png|&lt;br /&gt;
type=Fire|&lt;br /&gt;
damagecategory=Special |&lt;br /&gt;
basepp=5 |&lt;br /&gt;
maxpp=8 |&lt;br /&gt;
power=100 |&lt;br /&gt;
accuracy=50 |&lt;br /&gt;
gen=V |&lt;br /&gt;
category6=Beautiful |&lt;br /&gt;
appeal6=1 |&lt;br /&gt;
jam6=4 |&lt;br /&gt;
cdesc6=Badly startles the last Pokémon to act before the user.|&lt;br /&gt;
pokefordex=Inferno |&lt;br /&gt;
touches=no |&lt;br /&gt;
protect=yes |&lt;br /&gt;
magiccoat=no |&lt;br /&gt;
snatch=no |&lt;br /&gt;
brightpowder=yes |&lt;br /&gt;
kingsrock=no |&lt;br /&gt;
flag7=no |&lt;br /&gt;
flag8=yes |&lt;br /&gt;
sound=no |&lt;br /&gt;
target=anyadjacent |&lt;br /&gt;
footnotes= }}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Inferno&#039;&#039;&#039; (Japanese: &#039;&#039;&#039;れんごく&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;{{wp|Purgatory}}&#039;&#039;) is a damage-dealing {{type|Fire}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation V]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Effect==&lt;br /&gt;
Inferno deals damage and will always {{status|burn}} the target if it hits.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Description==&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedesc|fire}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev5|BWB2W2}}|The user attacks by engulfing the target in an intense fire. It leaves the target with a burn.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev6|XYORAS}}|The user attacks by engulfing the target in an intense fire. This leaves the target with a burn.}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}{{left clear}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Learnset==&lt;br /&gt;
===By [[Level|leveling up]]===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveheader/Level|Fire|5}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level5|004|Charmander|1|Fire|Fire|46|46|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level5|005|Charmeleon|1|Fire|Fire|54|54|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level5|006|Charizard|2|Fire|Flying|62|62|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level5|037|Vulpix|1|Fire|Fire|44|B2W2=50|50|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level5|077|Ponyta|1|Fire|Fire|33|33|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level5|078|Rapidash|1|Fire|Fire|33|33|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level5|155|Cyndaquil|1|Fire|Fire|46|46|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level5|156|Quilava|1|Fire|Fire|53|53|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level5|157|Typhlosion|1|Fire|Fire|56|56|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level5|228|Houndour|2|Dark|Fire|56|56|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level5|229|Houndoom|2|Dark|Fire|65|1, 65|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level5|324|Torkoal|1|Fire|Fire|60|{{tt|1, 60|XY}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{tt|50|ORAS}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level5|494|Victini|2|Psychic|Fire|57|57|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level5|607|Litwick|2|Ghost|Fire|38|38|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level5|608|Lampent|2|Ghost|Fire|38|38|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Level5|631|Heatmor|1|Fire|Fire|61|1, 61|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Movefooter|Fire|5}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===By {{pkmn|breeding}}===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveheader/Breed|Fire|5}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentry/Breed5|218|Slugma|1|Fire|Fire|{{MSP|607|Litwick}}{{MSP|608|Lampent}}|{{MSP|607|Litwick}}{{MSP|608|Lampent}}|STAB=&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Movefooter|Fire|5}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Special move===&lt;br /&gt;
====[[Generation V]]====&lt;br /&gt;
{{Learnlistspecial|Fire}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentryspecial|200|Misdreavus|1|Ghost|Ghost|{{pkmn|Dream World}} - {{dwa|Spooky Manor}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentryspecial|218|Slugma|1|Fire|Fire|{{pkmn|Dream World}} - {{dwa|Rugged Mountain}}|&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Learnlist/footer}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===By {{pkmn2|event}}s===&lt;br /&gt;
====[[Generation VI]]====&lt;br /&gt;
{{Learnlistspecial|Fire}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Moveentryspecial|006|Charizard|2|Fire|Flying|[[List of Japanese region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizardite Y Charizard|CoroCoro Charizardite Y Charizard]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[List of Korean region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizardite Y Charizard|Serial code Olleh TV Charizardite Y Charizard]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[List of PAL region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizardite Y Charizard_2|GAME 2014 Charizardite Y Charizard]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[List of Korean region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizardite Y Charizard|Infrared Olleh TV Charizardite Y Charizard]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[List of Taiwanese region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizardite Y Charizard|XY Charizardite Y Charizard]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[List of PAL region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Charizardite Y Charizard|GameStop 2014 Charizardite Y Charizard]]|&#039;&#039;&#039;|||36}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Learnlist/footer}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In the anime==&lt;br /&gt;
{{moveanime|type=fire|gen=The user attacks by engulfing the target in an intense fire.|image1=Lampent Inferno.png|image1p=Lampent|image2=Litwick Inferno.png|image2p=Litwick|image3=Chandelure Inferno.png|image3p=Chandelure}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=fire|ms=608|pkmn=Lampent|method=Lampent puts its arms together and a light blue and blue flame appear in between its hands. It then pulls its arms next to it, dragging the fire with it. It then leans on its back and throws the fire to the top of its head. When the fire reaches its head, Lampent starts to spin rapidly with the top of its head facing the opponent. A light blue stream of fire with dark blue rings of fire around it then fires from the top of its head at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=fire|user=Lampent (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Lampent|startcode=BW026|startname=Scare at the Litwick Mansion!|notes=Debut}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=fire|user=Lampent (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Lampent|startcode=BW069|startname=Climbing the Tower of Success!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=fire|ms=607|pkmn=Litwick|method=The purple flame on the top of Litwick&#039;s head stretches out into the sky. Then, an orb of light blue and blue fire forms in front of Litwick&#039;s flame. Litwick then fires a spiraling stream of light blue fire with rings of dark blue fire from the orb at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movemid|type=fire|user=Litwick (Pokémon)|user1=Four wild Litwick|startcode=BW026|startname=Scare at the Litwick Mansion!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movep|type=fire|ms=609|pkmn=Chandelure|method=Chandelure lowers its head down and releases a stream of purple and blue fire on the top of its head at the opponent.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{movebtm|type=fire|user=Chandelure (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Chandelure|startcode=BW069|startname=Climbing the Tower of Success!}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In other generations==&lt;br /&gt;
{{movegen|&lt;br /&gt;
type=Fire|&lt;br /&gt;
BW=Inferno BW|&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* Inferno is the only non-[[status move]] that has a 100% chance of burning the target under normal conditions. The only other move with the same possibility is {{m|Fling}}, but in its case, burn is only achieved if the user is holding a {{DL|In-battle effect item|Flame Orb}}.&lt;br /&gt;
*Inferno has the lowest [[accuracy]] of all the {{type|Fire}} [[move]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==In other languages==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Langtable|color={{fire color}}|bordercolor={{fire color light}}&lt;br /&gt;
|zh_cmn=煉獄 &#039;&#039;{{tt|Liànyù|Purgatory}}&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|nl=Inferno&lt;br /&gt;
|fr={{tt|Feu d&#039;Enfer|Hellfire}}&lt;br /&gt;
|de=Inferno&lt;br /&gt;
|it=Marchiatura&lt;br /&gt;
|pt_br=Inferno&lt;br /&gt;
|pl=Inferno&lt;br /&gt;
|ko=연옥 &#039;&#039;{{tt|Yeon&#039;ok|Purgatory}}&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|es_la={{tt|Infierno|Hell}}&lt;br /&gt;
|es_eu={{tt|Infierno|Hell}}&lt;br /&gt;
|id=Neraka&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Dynamic Punch|Fire}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Moves that can inflict a burn]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Moves that can jam]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[de:Inferno]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[fr:Feu d&#039;Enfer]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[it:Marchiatura (mossa)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[ja:れんごく]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[zh:炼狱（招式）]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Zap_Cannon_(move)&amp;diff=2453487</id>
		<title>Talk:Zap Cannon (move)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Zap_Cannon_(move)&amp;diff=2453487"/>
		<updated>2016-06-04T07:22:08Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Paralysis before Colour Change? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== Paralysis before Colour Change? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The article for [[Inferno (move)#Effect|Inferno]] notes that Inferno will cause a burn before [[Color Change|Colour Change]] takes effect. From Generation VI onwards Electric-type Pokémon are now immune to paralysis - do we know if Zap Cannon causes paralysis before Colour Change changes the opponent&#039;s type to Electric? --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:16, 22 August 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Color Change activates after a status condition is inflicted according to the Ability&#039;s page. Since Inferno&#039;s page mentions burns prior to Ability activation, I don&#039;t see the harm of it being mentioned in Zap Cannon&#039;s page as well. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 16:47, 22 August 2014 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Is this really something that belongs on this page? Doesn&#039;t this apply to other moves as well? For example, if Thunder hits its 30% chance of paralysis against a Pokémon with Color Change, won&#039;t the paralysis take effect before the type change there as well? If that&#039;s the case, I feel that it&#039;s a detail that should just go on the Color Change page and not here, since it&#039;s not unique to this move. -- [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 07:22, 4 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
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		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Solgaleo_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&amp;diff=2453486</id>
		<title>Talk:Solgaleo (Pokémon)</title>
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		<updated>2016-06-04T07:15:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Page protection and awful writing */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Russian name==&lt;br /&gt;
Hello could someone add that this line to the in other languages section?&lt;br /&gt;
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|ru=Солгалео &#039;&#039;Solgaleo&#039;&#039;|rumeaning=Transcription of English name&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Raltseye|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF6464&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#11BB11&amp;quot;&amp;gt;alts&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Raltseye|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6890F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6464FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;y&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6890F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 13:50, 2 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Generation VII Pokemon tag ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This page needs to be included with the other Generation VII Pokemon. Lunala should be tagged as Gen. VII as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User: CWallace |&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family: Tw Cen MT;color:#00CED1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;C.Wallace&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] ([[User_talk: CWallace |&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family: Tw Cen MT&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]|[[Special:Contributions/CWallace|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family: Tw Cen MT&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Contribs&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]) 15:18, 2 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mythology ==&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s probably based on the alchemical lion. (http://atlanteangardens.blogspot.com/2014/06/alchemy-green-lion-devouring-sun.html)  In alchemical mysticism the lion devouring the sun is symbolism for extracting gold by melting away impurities with acidic substances.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Page protection and awful writing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why is this page protected? What&#039;s the point of having a wiki if people can&#039;t edit it? The community is not large enough (as Wikipedia&#039;s is) to justify only letting admins edit a page, especially when the admins have such a terrible grasp of language. For example, &amp;quot;It may also involve Galileo, an ancient astronomer who believe the Earth rotated around the sun.&amp;quot; Firstly, it was slightly better before [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Solgaleo_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&amp;amp;type=revision&amp;amp;diff=2452876&amp;amp;oldid=2452708 this edit] (although the other changes in that edit were good). &#039;&#039;Incorporate&#039;&#039; is a much better word to use than &#039;&#039;involve&#039;&#039;. Secondly, there is an obvious grammatical error in the sentence. And thirdly, Galileo didn&#039;t &amp;quot;believe&amp;quot; the Earth rotated around the Sun (which should start with a capital in that context); he &#039;&#039;knew&#039;&#039; the Earth rotated around the Sun. He worked it out using science. It&#039;s a fact and therefore is not a belief. Can someone please either make these changes or unprotect the page so that others can edit (which is the entire point of a wiki)? [[User:McLerristarr|McLerristarr]] ([[User talk:McLerristarr|talk]]) 21:15, 2 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It is fully protected to prevent users from adding speculation and other unconfirmed information. It is standard procedure when a new Pokémon is released.--[[User:Force Fire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AB2813&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;F&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#C87365&amp;quot;&amp;gt;orce&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Force Fire|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#26649C&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;F&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#729ABF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ire&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 03:28, 3 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, I think the reference to heliocentrism should be removed altogether. After all, it was Copernicus&#039;s theory first (and Aristarchus&#039;s idea long before that). Galileo just supported and defended it from criticism; he didn&#039;t really contribute to it. His relation to the Sun was really just his studies on sunspots. It could, however, be phrased &amp;quot;...{{wp|Galileo}}, a famous astronomer who studied the Sun.&amp;quot; -- [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 06:53, 4 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::There&#039;s nothing particularly wrong about the sentence as currently phrased. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:08, 4 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Ah, I hadn&#039;t noticed that the sentence referencing Galileo had been changed since yesterday. That&#039;s my bad. But yeah, I agree, what&#039;s on there now seems totally fine to me as well. -- [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 07:15, 4 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Beast that devours the sun ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The &amp;quot;beast that devours the sun&amp;quot; line is very, very obviously a reference to alchemy&#039;s green lion. Can we add that as a source of inspiration, or is it too based in speculation? [[User:Pacack| &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#ffe700&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pa&#039;&#039;&#039;ᗧ•••&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ᗣ&#039;&#039;&#039;ck&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 05:43, 3 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Considering its steel typing and obvious sun and lion motifs, I&#039;d have to agree honestly. It&#039;s pretty heavily obvious that it is based on the alchemy green lion, to at least a certain extent. - [[User:050294|050294]] ([[User talk:050294|talk]]) 16:45, 3 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
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		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lunala_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&amp;diff=2453477</id>
		<title>Talk:Lunala (Pokémon)</title>
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		<updated>2016-06-04T06:56:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Kianglo: /* Name Origin */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Russian name==&lt;br /&gt;
Hello could someone add that this line to the in other languages section?&lt;br /&gt;
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|ru=Лунала &#039;&#039;Lunala&#039;&#039;|rumeaning=Transcription of English name&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Raltseye|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF6464&amp;quot;&amp;gt;R&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#11BB11&amp;quot;&amp;gt;alts&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Raltseye|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6890F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6464FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;y&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6890F0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;e&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 13:49, 2 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==Name Origin==&lt;br /&gt;
Given that this Pokemon has that collar thing similar to dracuLA, the &amp;quot;La&amp;quot; in it&#039;s name may also be derived from that.&lt;br /&gt;
Luna - latin for moon&lt;br /&gt;
+ La - dracuLA&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Steamygoreng|Steamygoreng]] ([[User talk:Steamygoreng|talk]]) 22:44, 2 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Given it&#039;s clearly based on a bat, this seems plausible to me as well. -- [[User:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#6900CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;KiAN&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#AA66FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;GLO&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Kianglo|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#00b7eb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 06:56, 4 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Kianglo</name></author>
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