Talk:Groudon (Pokémon)

2013-07-25T22:19:03Z

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== Groudon VS. Kyogre ==
If a Groudon battled a Kyogre, and they were both same level, would drought or drizzle last for the rest of the battle? [[User:Zapdos|Zapdos]] 14:18, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Maybe both... but is that possible? --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 14:28, 24 February 2008 (UTC)♫☆
:I'm not completely possitive, but I think that they'll just cancel each other out. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 17:17, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
::I've already had this dicussion before. The weather effect is chosen at random between the two. [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] 17:22, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

:::I've read that it's whichever Pokémon has lower speed. I don't know where I read that, but it was somewhere. Possibly here, possibly Serebii. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 23:02, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Well that actually does sound pretty logical. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 23:05, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Lower speed? Wait that doesn't make sense, it's not the other way around? Why would some Pokémon with lower speed have their ability to work quicker?
:::::I know I'm going off-topic now, but how can I get Pokémon sprites to my signature like you guys have? [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 23:34, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::Oh, I didn't see the lower speed thing. Yea, I think it will be the effect of the one with the '''higher''' speed stat. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 23:54, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Come to think of it the one with lower speed CAN make sense. Could it be possible that the first weather takes effect and then the other one replaces it? I'd love to see a YouTube video of this happening. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 00:30, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I got a better idea I will MAKE a YouTube video with that happening. I will do that on Wednesday. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 00:33, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I'm up for a battle, 1 on 1, Groudon VS (my) Kyogre. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 00:35, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I thought it was whoever was sent out second, their Ability will take effect... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:52, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Except for the fact that they're both sent out at the same time. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''01:58 4 Jun 2008'''''

::But the games don't actually show them being sent out at exactly the same time... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:::When its groudons turn, drought is in effect and vice versa ([[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 16:57, 4 June 2008 (UTC))

::::If that's the case, then Kyogre should win the battle seeing that it has the type advantage that is increased by its Drizzle Ability. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:05, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I've had experience with this since me and my friend battle our groudon and kyogre respectivly, the pokemon who is sent out '''second''' will have it's ability active since it overrides the first one's ability, speed has nothing to do with it and no game has changed that not even battle revolution. so technically it's random since the the first one out almost always changes each battle. - [[User:Geomexis|Geomexis]] 13:38, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
:What really happens is that Drought and Drizzle really do activate in Speed order, if both Groudon and Kyogre are sent out first. The faster Pokémon's ability activates, then the slower one's activates. If both Groudon and Kyogre are switched in at the same time, then the Pokémon that actually comes out of the Poké Ball first activates its ability first, then the other one's activates afterward. That situation depends on who selects to switch Pokémon out first/last. This also applies to Tyranitar, Hippowdon, and Abomasnow. [[User:Ranko Hoshino|Ranko Hoshino]] 02:01, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

== Fake Groudons ==

Perhaps it could be an interesting trivia how Groudon copies and illusions have appeared lots: That ''thing'' in the Jirachi movie, Mismagius' illusion and Uxie's illusion in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon 2

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::exactly, I forgot about the Mismagius thing but it is definatley trivia worth [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 16:13, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I was watching ''Jirachi: The Wishmaker'' the other day, and i think the movie provides useful insight into how the real Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza were created. The movie reveals that at least two things are necessary to create one of the Weather Trio: a special mineral of which their bodies consist, and a special marking. Whoever created each of them, let's say Arceus, drew markings into the ground using the aforementioned mineral, and like a spell, a being arose with the abilities of said markings. The reason that Butler's plan didn't work was because the marking for Groudon wasn't finished since Jirachi was taken out of the machine. The result was a monster that was kind of like Groudon, but had watery tendrils, and absorbed all the life it could reach into its body. (I call it 'Grougre' since it looked like Groudon, could manipulate water like Kyogre, and had the uncanny power to absorb life. At least, i think it's a good name. :P ) Anyway, that would explain why Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza all have strange, unique markings on them.
Also, shouldn't an article be made about the monster Groudon?-- [[User:Webspidrman|Webspidrman]] 02:56, 26 May 2010

== Groudon Origins ==

I noticed that there is no similarity to Groudon and Godzilla. Considering it battles Kyogre and levels sootopolis, also considering its appearance, I think Godzilla should be added to its list of possible origins.--[[User:Janis|Janis]] 20:02, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

:yes, it could be, and it could be compared that Groudon's [[Solar Beam]] comes out from its mouth like what Godzilla do when it uses its Atomic Breath? [[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 11:57, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

not to mention that it's shiny form is yellow, like godzilla.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We are the Void 00:12, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

:wait what? in what godzilla anything is godzilla yellow?! i grew up on godzilla stuff and i think i'd remember his color changing from he dark green, dark blue, or dark browns that he's always been depicted as to yellow. - [[User:Geomexis|Geomexis]] 13:40, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

::Godzilla's either charcoal-grey (most movies) or dark green (Hanna-Barbera cartoon, 2000, vs. Megaguirus). Either way, not yellow. [[User:Goldenpelt|Goldenpelt]] 09:41, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

== Something else about the name origin? ==

Perhaps the "don" in "Groudon" stands for the Japanese ドンッ (''don'') which is an onomatopoeia for a crash? (Considering that Groudon can create earthquakes by slamming its feet onto the ground, they would make the "don" sound) Just wondering. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 04:37, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

== HG/SS Japanese Text ==
I notice that the Japanese text here is not translated like in most/all of the other Pokémon pages. I would do this, but I don't speak japanese and I know Google translator can be very iffy when translating more than a word or two. If someone could do this, that would be great.[[User:Poisson14|Poisson14]] 02:11, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

== Height Trivia ==
Groudon in the anime IS the correct size. It's not the same HEIGHT as Arbok, as Arbok's "height" is LENGTH. Look at the two in the PokéDex for crying out loud! I would upload a comparison pic myself but I have no way of recording anything on my DSi unlike most other people. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 19:40, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

== Type Trivia ==
"Groudon is the only Ground-type Legendary Pokémon, excluding Arceus holding an Earth Plate."
[[Landlos (Pokémon)]]
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[[User:Mewtwo777|I am Darth Mewtwo... Fear me, and my team made entirely of Mewtwo!!!]] 23:45, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
:It obviously hadn't been updated since BW was released. If you see other things like that, there's no need to talk page it. Just remove it. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 23:58, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

== Maylupa? ==

Who added the 'Maylupa' trivia? I'm just asking because I've never heard of it before and a quick Google turned up squat. Could someone please clarify and expand this trivia? --[[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 08:52, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

:Apparently, someone must have thought "Maylupa" is a name of a deity. I took that trivia out, since it's actually just {{tt|Filipino|From Google Translate}} for "landlord". [[User:神奇超龍|神奇超龍]] 10:08, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

== Groudon's Draught effect in Pokémon Ruby - need confirmation ==

I'd like to point something that happened in my game.

I always took the time to replant a seed in the areas where I took out berries.
Also, if I found an area where the soil was empty, I'd plant a berry there too.

Now, according to some NPC in the game, when a tree is grown and no one picks the berries, a berry drops on the soil and the tree starts growing again, right?

Well, after I caught Groudon, I went back through the map to check on a few things, and noticed that several soil patches were completely empty.
Nothing was there.

I believe this was because I didn't rush to catch Groudon...
I just went around, leveled up, and did other stuff.
Could this be the effect of Draught over the world map?

I just need someone who has been playing this game to confirm if this is true, or if there's some other explanation for the empty soil patches
(there were many, in several routes, not just one).

Also, if there are other effects like a constant low tide in shoal islands
(I thought about this one only after I saw the patches, so I already had Groudon caught)

If it's true, then it would make sense to think that Kyogre's rain, over a long period of time, may have an effect as well
(perhaps increased berry growth? constant high tide?)

Any input from anyone who has Ruby, Sapphire or even Emerald is appreciated, thanks. {{unsigned|Raven-14}}
:How long did you leave it before going back to check? They will only replant themselves a certain number of times. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:13, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
::I was regularly going back to collect berries, now that I had Fly available (for use in Pokeblocks and also use them instead of Antidotes and Full Heals because it saves money), so no more than 2 days of real time and around 6 to 8 hours of game time. I was leveling in that time and then caught Groudon. After that, when I made my runs through the several routes to gather the berries, some were completely gone, others were still there.
::[[User:Raven-14|Raven-14]] 10:01, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

== trivia ==

arent groundon and [[kyogre]] the only 2 non bw legendaries that haven't had a major movie role--[[User:Ash0011|Ash0011]] 13:59, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
:{{p|Cresselia}}, {{p|Ho-Oh}} and [[Lake guardians]] had no role as well, as far as I remember. {{p|Heatran}}, {{p|Raikou}} had only minor roles... --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 15:24, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
::forgot about those, but {{p|Raikou}} was in the new movie--[[User:Ash0011|Ash0011]] 18:49, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

== Grouse ==

Is it possible Groudon is based on a male 'red phase' ruffed grouse?

Talk:Seedot (Pokémon)/Generation III learnset

2013-07-04T14:24:02Z

Kenshiyo: /* swarm moves */ new section

The Shroomish and Breloom pictures were shown as Whismur and Loudred, so I fixed it. [[User:Bkh88|Bkh88]] ([[User talk:Bkh88|talk]]) 17:36, 18 June 2013 (UTC)bkh88

== swarm moves ==

The seedots that appear during a swarm have different starting moves (emerald): Giga drain, frustration, solarbeam, and leech seed. Didn't see this anywhere.

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