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== Release Date? ==

Is It True That The Movie Is Going To Be Released In Japan On The 14th July 2007? I Saw This Date On The Japanese Trailer, But I'm Not Sure If I Should Put This On The Page. Tesh!

:When will it be released in America? [[Image:Ani491MS.gif]][[User:Kpokefan|K]][[User Talk:Kpokefan|P]][[User:Kpokefan/Cal|F]][[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 22:50, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Next Year. That's all I can tell you. [[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]]

July 2008[[Image:Ani386MS.gif]][[User:Pokemaniac102|'''''Poke''''']][[Image:Ani386AMS.gif]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''maniac''''']][[Image:Ani386DMS.gif]][[User:Pokemaniac102/Riddle|'''''1''''']][[User:Pokemaniac102/Picto|'''''0''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|'''''2''''']][[Image:Ani386SMS.gif]] 17:03, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

== Cleanup, oversize tags ==
I added these tags because 1) this article is way too huge and needs to be cut down (especially the plot section), and 2) there are serious prose problems (also in the plot section). [[User:Morgan695|Morgan695]] 05:46, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

: Do we still need these tags? I took bladed weaponry to the plot summary ages back. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 18:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

== Robert? ==

I noticed that several of the voice actors have the name "Robert" next to them in small text. What does that mean? Just curious. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]][[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]] 04:23, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Now ''I'm'' getting curious...what the heck does Robert mean!? [[Image:Ani491MS.gif]][[User:Kpokefan|K]][[User Talk:Kpokefan|P]][[User:Kpokefan/Cal|F]][[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 17:01, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

No one knows so ill take it off.[[Image:Ani386MS.gif]][[User:Pokemaniac102|'''''Poke''''']][[Image:Ani386AMS.gif]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''maniac''''']][[Image:Ani386DMS.gif]][[User:Pokemaniac102/Riddle|'''''1''''']][[User:Pokemaniac102/Picto|'''''0''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|'''''2''''']][[Image:Ani386SMS.gif]] 17:03, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

== Spoilers ==

This article '''really''' needs a spoiler warning. I mean, the whole story is told on this page!--[[User:Dawnfan47|Dawnfan47]] 20:33, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[[Image:Ani387MS.gif]][[Image:Ani390MS.gif]][[Image:Ani393MS.gif]]

Either that or someone takes a chainsaw to that summary... [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 22:33, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

==Soundtrack==
I think all the music from the movie should be listed here. [[User:Porygon-Z|Porygon-Z]] 19:35, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe an actual article for the soundtrack would be better. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 19:43, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
::Maybe, shall I create it? If so what should I call it? [[User:Porygon-Z|Porygon-Z]] 02:28, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Either something like "Dialga vs. Palkia vs. Darkrai soundtrack" or the album's official name, "10th Anniversary Gekijōban Pocket Monsters Diamond & Pearl Dialga VS Palkia VS Darkrai MUSIC COLLECTION", I'd assume.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:04, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
:::: How about "10th movie soundtrack" as a redirect? [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 10:22, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
::::: Sounds good, I'll do it later tonight. I can't type/translate/read Japanese though so I'll need some help. [[User:Porygon-Z|Porygon-Z]] 19:51, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::: Oh, good! Turns out I translated all the tracks myself once I downloaded it...--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:01, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Great! Sorry I couldn't do it tonight...I'm only getting home now (11:00) and now I gotta go to bed. I'll do it tomorrow when come home from school. [[User:Porygon-Z|Porygon-Z]] 02:25, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Ok I did all the stuff I can do. Made redirects too. [[10th Anniversary Movie Pocket Monsters Diamond & Pearl: Dialga vs. Palkia vs. Darkrai Music Collection]]. [[User:Porygon-Z|Porygon-Z]] 19:36, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
:wow....that's a long title.....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:11, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

=="The Rise of Darkrai"?==
A French magazine, Nintendo Mag, listed this movie as '''Pokémon: The Raise Of Darkrai''', and PokémonEspace revealed the title as '''Pokémon 10: Rise of Darkrai'''... is this the real US name? - [[User:Lynn Shorelake|Lynn Shorelake]] 19:11, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
:Don't think so.. is it an official magazine? [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 19:21, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
::Well now it's offical! lol. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 23:45, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
==Offical NA release???==
Wow! New update on Pokemon.com! Look [http://www.pokemon.com/]!It's gonna be soon.....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 22:35, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

==IT'S CLOSE!==
IT'S ALMOST HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I CAN'T WAIT TIL {{tt|MARCH|Or at least til friday so i can see the teaser. BUT STILL!}}!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! '''[[Image:Ani417MS.gif]][[User:Pachirisulover12|P]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|L]][[Image:Ani026MS.gif]][[User:Pachirisulover12/Trade Shop|1]][[User:Pachirisulover12/Discharge Gym|2]][[Image:Ani181MS.gif]]'''23:47, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
:Hey! It's finally revealed!!!! [http://www.pokemon.com/darkrai/ go under ''movie''] --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 23:52, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

== Theaters? ==

I was just watching Fried Dynamite on Cartoon Network ans Blake said that the movie was gonna be on TV on February 24, 2008!!! He also mentioned that it would be on Cartoon Network "months before it hits the theaters"!!!!!!!!!! [[User:Yinyang1195|'''Yin''']][[Image:Ani383MS.gif]][[User:Yinyang1195|'''Yang''']][[Image:Ani382MS.gif]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|'''1195''']][[Image:Ani384MS.gif]] 02:46, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
:When?!{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 18:01, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
::Friday. [[User:Yinyang1195|'''Yin''']][[Image:Ani250MS.gif]][[User:Yinyang1195|'''Yang''']][[Image:Ani249MS.gif]]
[[User talk:Yinyang1195|'''1195''']][[Image:Ani245MS.gif]] 06:15, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
::No, No. Sadly, it's not coming out in theaters. Proof can be found on the Pokemon.com website: http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag_02042008 . --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 11:53, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:::I hate that! What's wrong with putting a Pokémon Movie in theaters? I NEVER got a chance to see a Pokémon Movie in theaters (I only heard my cousins talk about it) and now, I (most likely) never will!!!!!!!!!! [[User:Yinyang1195|'''Yin''']][[Image:Ani250MS.gif]][[User:Yinyang1195|'''Yang''']][[Image:Ani249MS.gif]]
[[User talk:Yinyang1195|'''1195''']][[Image:Ani245MS.gif]] 20:34, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

==Just how long IS the movie?==

I'm confused. Wikipedia said that it was 128 minutes (unlikely story), but I don't think so, seeing that no Pokémon movie has spanned 2 hours. Could someone be a dear and check the length on the back of the DVD (if they have it)?

Best regards,

CosmosShipper

:It's 91 mins, including credits and the picture bit at the end. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 17:56, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
::They were likely to mistake one hour for 100 minutes. Amateur editing. {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]{{{1|05:56 13 Mar 2008}}}'''

==Summary==

Why was almost all of the summary removed?

--[[User:HoennMaster|HoennMaster]] - February 11, 2008 8:29 PM (CST)
:Because a summary is a very short and concise paragraph of the plot. That was like GAAAAHH!!!! That wasn't a summary. That was the whole thing.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 02:56, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
::Exactly. The movies aren't like regular episodes. Their synopses can be put on one page (and are often either not there or have low quality...), while the movies take about three times the space. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 06:44, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Although that is true, the summary still goes on explaining the movie and then just cuts off, without a new paragraph wrapping up other details.

== 5th Gen? ==

In the movie at the end they played the music it made a big gold bird-thing. Then whats-his-face said "Its _______!" (yes I forgot the name) like it was a Pokémon. Maybe some sort of 5th gen? Any thoughts? [[User:Crystallucario|CrystalLucario]] 22:20, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

It was just the name of the song and it wasnt a pokemon it was the space-time tower doing something to calm down dialga and palkia.Darkmaster0 21:42, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

That makes more sense.[[User:Crystallucario|CrystalLucario]] 22:20, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

== Villain? ==

Anybody else think Dialga is more of the villain than both dialga nad palkis?I mean palkia was trying to hide from dialga and Dialga cracked palkia's pearl(or whatever that gem on its shoulder is).Darkmaster0 22:58, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I was under the impression it was Palkia as Palkia was the first (seen) to attack, Ash spazed at it, and it decided to BRING the dimension to him to hide in. So I'm just guessing Dialga is just stronger. But that is my opinion. [[User:Crystallucario|CrystalLucario]] 23:18, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree with darkmaster0, I think Dialga is the villain. Dialga was the one always to attack while Palkia was tryin to hide. [[User:shinylucario|shinylucario]] 23:32, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
I also agree. Palkia was just trying not to cause harm and protect itself, Darkrai was just trying to stop the fight (though endangering and hurting many others), but Dialga was the main antagonist. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 01:48, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I figured it out Dialga is the main antagonist '''''BUT''''' Palkia is the semi-antagonist as he was accidentaly destroying everything.
[[User:Crystallucario|CrystalLucario]] 22:46, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Well it's sort of like Celebi when it was mind-controlled{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 22:58, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Maybe Movie 11 will clear it up...
{{ani|448}}[[User:Crystallucario|'''''Crystal''''']] [[User talk:Crystallucario|'''''Lucario''''']]{{ani|448}} 01:47, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

:Both are at fault as both were fighting in the first place. =( {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]{{{1|05:56 13 Mar 2008}}}'''

==Dialga move?==
In the movie, Dialga used a move that his head glows red then many bullets? shoot out. I'm just wondering, what move was that?
:Yea, I saw that too. I don't know for sure, but I belive that it is {{m|AncientPower}}. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
::{{m|Draco Meteor}}. Sounds like the description. {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]{{{1|05:54 13 Mar 2008}}}'''
::: Darkrai isn't a "true dragon", so it's not Draco Meteor. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:33, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::::LOOK AT IT!!! DIALGA!!! {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]{{{1|11:36 13 Mar 2008}}}'''
:::::Ah. My mistake. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:38, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:So it's agreed that it's Draco Meteor, yes? {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]{{{1|11:39 13 Mar 2008}}}'''
::Yea, I guess so. It makes the most sense. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 00:22, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
==I Will Be With You==
In the credits of "The Rise of Darkrai" on CN, it was told that the ending song wouldn't have been "I Will Be With You" by Sarah Brightman, but "I'll Always Remember You" by Kirsten Price. Will it be true? Have PUSA renounced to pay Brightman for her song's rights? I thing this should be added to the Trivia.--[[User:Firempoleon|Firempoleon]] 12:53, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

== Canon ==

Yes let's bring this up again. Why the hell wouldn't the movies be canon? Sure, no one makes any captures in them, nor does anything evolve, because that'd require for everyone to buy tickets or DVDs to see the event, instead of how it is on TV, which is free... well... kinda. Not CN since it's cable. If you say the movies aren't canon, you pretty much can say the filler isn't canon either, because ''nothing freaking happens and the events are never mentioned afterwards''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:41, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
: It'd probably help if events and characters from the movies actually showed up in the series, which hasn't happened since "Mewtwo Returns", except for the recent mentions of Aura. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:47, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
:: The same can be said for just about any character of the day. And don't forget that LaRousse City became Drew's hometown. Plus, Dialga will be in the next movie.
:: The one issue I can see with canon is that this would become the start of Dawn losing streak rather than [[DP049]]. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 01:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
::: Not really. Looks like she actually got to the finals in this one. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 10:22, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Yeah, and besides, even Main episodes can be contradicted. For example, in a certain episode, Ash and co. acted as though they never heard of the N1 grand prix DESPITE Ash winning that particular event, and loaning his Primeape to the 3rd place man. And also, for a much better example The Rubello contest made it seem as though Beautifly was never used in the Fallabor town contest prior, even IN the Japanese version, even though she DEFINITELY used it there.
::::[[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 12:32, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

== Maurice? ==

I saw the English ending, and it showed a name, Joshua Swanson. I look him up and find his LinkedIn Profile.

This is a quote from it
"*Lead Character Vocie of Maurice in upcoming "Pokemon" Cartoon Movie "
Which one do you think "Maurice" is?
Dai or Katsumi?
[[User:Flaremaster|Flaremaster]] 21:03, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:I guess that would be Katsumi. Cause Dai is definately voiced by Bill Rogers. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:21, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::So then who did Rich voice if it wasn't Katsumi?, Baron Alberto?[[User:Flaremaster|Flaremaster]] 21:24, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Maybe. I don't know. I thought it was Rich. Man, I can't wait for the DVD to come in the mail so I can finally straighten this out. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:31, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Ending's right here [http://youtube.com/watch?v=TNXv1PxY9DA][[User:Flaremaster|Flaremaster]] 21:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Well that just gave me more questions than answers. Who are all these people? Are they the same actors with different names? --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

== Alicia's English VA ==

There seems to be some confusion regarding [[Alicia]], Alice's grandmonther, and who her voice actress is. I'm absolutely positive that it's [[Kayzie Rogers]], who's recently rejoined the PUSA cast, despite not being credited in this movie. There have been cases where some of the VAs weren't credited in a film and yet were still credited here on Bulbapedia. Citing an example, [[Destiny Deoxys]] only listed the core cast as listed in the TV episodes in its credits, leaving out Mike Pollock as the narrator, Tara Jayne/Sands as Tory, Sean Schemmel as Prof. Lund, Lisa Ortiz as Rebecca, etc. And yet we've granted it as fact that they did in fact voice those characters despite not being credited. Certainly mistakes can and will be made, but I think it's necessary to utilize research and common sense as much as actual evidence. After all, Emily Williams wasn't credited by that name in the credits, and yet it's obvious it's her voicing Infernape's trainer. If it's obvious Kayzie Rogers voiced Alicia as well as her other creature roles, even if not credited, what should be done?
[[User:Shift|Shift]] 17:57, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

== AHHHH!!! ==

Where did it go and how can we get it back?!?!?!? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:10, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia errors? ==
"It starts of with a fleeing Mew that is attacked by a Mewtwo which uses Shadow Ball, only to be stopped by Mew by absorbing the attack with a shield (Mewtwo Strikes Back)."
It actually looks like a Lugia flies in and absorbs it with...Mew's pink shield (instead of the clear one that Lugia uses in the second movie).[[User:Cynicalmew|Cynicalmew]] 06:29, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
:I've seen the movie and the trivia is correct--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 06:31, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
::Ive also seen the movie and it is indeed the lugia that stops the attack not mew. The trivia does need to be edited.[[User:Sevenofniner|Sevenofniner]] 10:46, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

== Synopsis ==

Does anybody else think that we should expand the synopsis? It kind of sounds like what would be on the back of the DVD case. Also because the trivia section is larger than the actual story of the movie. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 03:16, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia problem ==

''This is one of the few movies without a human antagonist. The two others are Destiny Deoxys and Lucario and the Mystery of Mew'' ummmm hows about movie 1? is this trivia really notable/ worth it? --[[User:Dion24|D i]] [[User talk:Dion24|o n]] [[Special:Contributions/Dion24|2 4]] 08:54, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
:Giovanni. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 09:17, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
::Ok thanks and sorry bout that --[[User:Dion24|D i]] [[User talk:Dion24|o n]] [[Special:Contributions/Dion24|2 4]] 10:27, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

== Synopsis problem ==

It's written like an advertisement (from my point of view) and it seems like it was written before the movie actually came out. --[[User:Dialgarules|'''Dialga''']][[User talk:Dialgarules|'''RULES''']] 01:59, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:Exactly what I said two subjects ago. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 17:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

==Ho-oH trivia==
It says that this is the first movie to have a Ho-oH appear. This is wrong because Ho-oH appears in Lucario and the mystery of mew near the beginning. Later in the movie mew is transformed as a Ho-oH as well but this dosn't mean that it was mew at the beginning of the movie (unless i'm mistaken and it does show mew transforming at the beginning)-- [[User:D558|D558]] 06:58, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[[User:D558|D558]]
:An actual Ho-Oh, not a Pokémon transformed into a Ho-Oh.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 07:00, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
::OK yes I got that BUT is it confirmed that the Ho-oh at the beginning of Lucario and the mystery of mew that it WAS mew? Did it show mew transforming into that Ho-Oh? that was my point from the start, at the BEGINNING of Lucario and the Mystery of mew (not later when shown summoned to the canyon by Sir Auron) a Ho-oh was seen flying out of a canyon was it confirmed that that was mew and not a real Ho-oh? -- [[User:D558|D558]]
:: I have now taken that bit of False trivia out -- [[User:D558|D558]] 03:30, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
:::I'm extremely sure it shows the transformation, and yes, we're talking about the Lucario movie. We wouldn't be shooting you down without knowing what we were talking about.—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:54, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
:::: Just watched it... In just the first few minutes right after the movie intro speech in Lucario and the Mystery of Mew A Ho-oh flies out of the mist near the tree. Even in the distant fog it is still a soaring bird shape right up until it leaves the screen. Always Ho-oh, never shown that it is mew. I'm Right! Mew far later in the movie being a Ho-oh doesn't prove in any way that the pokemon shown flying out of the Tree's crater is mew no more than anyone can prove that Ash's Pikachu in the balloon while entering the city is Pikachu and not mew. Lawyered. -- [[User:D558|D558]] 04:13, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
::::: Uh, by your logic, the Ho-Oh in Darkrai could be a Mew because it ''could have'' transformed before it came on-screen. I think most people are going to and were meant to assume that if a Ho-Oh leaves the Tree then comes back and turns into Mew, it's the same animal.—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:07, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::: No... it's ''your'' logic that dictates that just because mew was transformed into that pokemon later in the movie means that any pokemon shown before can't be trusted to be real. (ok admittedly my wording with the pikachu thing was confusing, I meant to make it seem that if u assume the Ho-oh is mew ''why not'' pikachu in some minor scenes)-- [[User:D558|D558]] 14:59, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

:::::::But guess what? Which one lives in the Tree? Mew. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:21, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::: Still this site is so overcautious on issues like the sex of a pokemon despite implied situations, than I don't think assumptions like the one "The Ho-oh was ''definably'' mew at the beginning of the movie (LatMoM)" shouldn't be made either. Ho-oH ''could'' also live at the tree as well, mew was not the soul resident. -- [[User:D558|D558]] 21:45, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't see any hope in getting the point across to you. The last thing I'll say on this is that Mew is known to take the form of Ho-oh. The movies tend to keep things like that consistent. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:16, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

==Continuity Confirmation==

The trivia section say this is the first movie to be canonized by events in the series. This is not the case. In the episode [[EP220|The Mystery is History]], Ash says (in the English dub, at least) he recognizes a Lugia from his time in the Orange Islands. The only Lugia he saw in the Orange Islands was the one in [[The Power of One]].[[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 14:55, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:And in [[EP063|The Battle of the Badge]], the reason Giovanni leaves is because of Mewtwo escaping, leading to the events of the first movie. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 15:01, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::I just looked again, and it says '''''the''''' movie, not '''''a''''' movie. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 15:06, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Good point. Maybe the line should be changed to 'This' movie, to make it clearer. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 18:51, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

== US Rating ==

When did this movie receive a PG rating in the United States? It is not listed on MPAA.org, and numerous movie sites like Netflix, as well as the back of the box, state that it is not rated (NR).
[[User:Cat333Pokémon|Cat333Pokémon]] 07:01, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

==After Which Epizode This Movie Belongs...==

I'd say that this movie belongs after [[DP040|Top-Down Training!]] and not before. In ''Top-Down Training!'' Ash does not recognize Dialga and Palkia whereas in the movie he does. It is because Cynthia tells him about them in ''Top-Down Training!''
--[[User:Joxer|Joxer]] 11:13, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== Error Errors ==

I think the bit about aipom is wrong, remember it was on the outside of the tower. Sorry if I was wrong. --[[User:KelsUsedSplash|KelsUsedSplash]] 23:18, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Core series/Archive 1

2009-05-03T01:16:06Z

KelsUsedSplash: /* Idea */ new section

==Routes==

I'm not so sure that a Gen V game ''has'' to start its Route numbering system from 301 just because Hoenn and Sinnoh use a similar method. A Gen V or so game could actually link two previously known regions. There are still Routes 47-100 and Routes 135-200 still unaccounted for. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:19, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

:Indeed. Not only is there no precedent or fundamental reason to believe it will be the case, the contrary is more likely to occur. Hoenn and Sinnoh are based on Kyushu and Hokkaido, respectively, which are the only islands in Japan - other than Honshu - arguably big enough to be adapted as regions. By this I am suggesting that Generation V is more likely to revisit Honshu, of which there are plenty of as-yet unexplored territories. If that were to happen, the numbering system would no doubt pick up from Route 47, regardless of whether Kanto or Johto were included in the game.

:Some might also argue that Shikoku, which is another Japanese island, is not too small to serve as the basis of a new region. Supposing that they had a point, the numbering system would still be likely to pick up either from Route 47 or Route 135, due to Shikoku's proximity to both Honshu (in particular the area encompassed in Johto) and Kyushu.

:Those are really the only possibilities involving Japan, and the pattern does suggest that Generation V will be based there. It is important to remember that the transition to Hoenn and then to Sinnoh entailed exploring new territories far enough from previous regions. Now that both Hoenn and Sinnoh are familiar places, that can no longer be done within Japan. -[[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 13:01, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's more to discourage people from being "LOL JOTOE IZ IN RUBBY N SAFIRE" and "LOL HOEN IZ IN DAIMIND N PERL". Though I do agree, they could go and hit whatever's north of Kanto and Johto next time around... the problem would be whether or not to link back to those two or not to. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:08, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:::They should just go ahead and create a 3-D console game like the Orre series and have all the known game regions present. At least the main series regions. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

==Pikachu==
The article mentions Pikachu and Raichu being in Generation Five's regional dex, because it has been like that in all previous generations. What about the evolutionary lines of {{p|Geodude}}, {{p|Abra}}, {{p|Zubat}} (minus {{p|Crobat}}), {{p|Machop}}, {{p|Psyduck}}, and {{p|Goldeen}}? They've all been present in every game, so why not mention them too? --[[User:Goukazaru|Nostalgia]] 17:55, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

:I think only Pikachu is mentioned because it's the "mascot" of the series. It has more of a probability of being in the next game. Then again, {{p|Magikarp}} and {{p|Tentacool}} are also mentioned... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:20, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
::If the next Generation of Pokémon games didn't have the Pikachu family in them I don't think anyone would buy them!- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] ([[User talk:Taromon777|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Taromon777|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:::of course they would buy them. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 18:29, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
== Eeveelutions? ==

Is it possible that 2 new eeveelutions will be introduced when you consider Gen II and IV both introduced 2 new eeveelutions each (Espeon & Umbreon and Leafeon and Glaceon)?[[User:BlueGasMask|BlueGasMask]] 01:25, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:what about Gen III? none. so, no. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:27, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
::If we see new ones in Gen V, I'd bet on a couple more in Gen VI, but until we have a pattern we ought not. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:31, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:::If the Eeveelutions "pattern" continued in Gen V, then we would either see no new Eeveelutions (Gen II added 2, Gen III added none, Gen IV added 2) or only a Dragon-type Eeveelution (as all of Eevee's current evolved forms are types that were considered "Special" prior to Gen IV; technically, however, this would break the pattern, as only 1 new "Special"-type would be introduced, rather than the usual 2). Hopefully they will begin to create Eeveelutions based off of the types that were previously "Physical"; I'd really like to see a Steel, Fighting, or Ghost-type Eeveelution (Bug...not so much). [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::::If they do invent new Eeveelutions I dread to think how unimaginative their names will be! There will probably be a Dragon-type one called Drageon or something. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] ([[User talk:Taromon777|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Taromon777|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

==Generation V==
Scince today there was the hinting of Generation V Pokémon, should a Generation V article be made to confirm the release of more to the story? ----digletdude
:That's what I'm thinking. We might need to start one out. [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 21:30, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
::I was about to say the same thing...I just realized it.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 03:32, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
::: Maybe no now, we have to wait. [[User:Joshuamanimtim2|K.J.Boring]] 05:09, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
:::: We need an article for it, for sure, but there is no information whatsoever ''about'' it. At this point, all it'd be is speculation, which is rather pointless in the grand scheme of things. Either speculation or a couple of sentences about the picture.--[[User:Goukazaru|Nostalgia]] 03:13, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
::::: Well, I for one, say that we wait untill this 'new' Pokémon actually makes its debut --[[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 03:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
:Or ,maybe just redirect? If that doesn't happen already, that is. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 10:32, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::Turns out to be pichu, guess we dont need a generation V article after all. ----digletdude
:::::::And I had it all prepared, too. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:19, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

<big>YAY, I LOVE PICHU MORE THEN EVER NOW,</big> if they started introducing gen 5, it would seriously limit chacnes of GSDS.

SO PICHU WE LOVE YOU!! --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:That was my main worry too! I was so relieved when I found out it was Pichu! Although, it seems strange that they'd block out this Pichu unless it was of importance. Perhaps its Ash's Pikachu's child! [[User:Gastlys mama|Gastlys mama]] 17:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

That would be brilliant. [s]And he could give it to me.[/s] And it could know Volt Tackle and then go with Ash's Pikachu to use Double Volt Tackle killing off Arceus.

But what I think it is, is remember Dialga controls time, so could end up taking Ash and gang to the past. So maybe its Ash's Pikachu as a Pichu. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]

No, anime is Pokémon's biggest marketing tool and Pichu was a Gen II Pokémon. I have a funny feeling the GSDS is on the way. But those ear markings are odd, like its Pichu's other form . -- [[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 21:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Y cant our points both be correct. Its Ash's Pikachu as a Pichu, and they are using it to advertise GSDS. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]

I guess so. Either way, its still very mysterious. -- [[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 23:51, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

There WILL be a next Generation of Pokemon. In a GameInformer issue they had an interveiw with one of the Diamond/Pearl creators and confirmed it.- LolBot, # 18:10:56 (UTC)

==The system==
In the article it states that the games of the new generation came out on the newest Nintendo handheld system. considering that the DSi is coming out soon, should this rapid the chances of Gen 5 coming out sooner, or delaying it waiting for the next, next handheld system like we waited for the DS Lite handheld? Ths proves that the new Gen did not came out on the next Handheld sytem-or did I read it wrong...[[User:Pyles|Pyles]] 22:42, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
:Most people don't interpret the DSi as a new system, simply another upgrade to the DS. We don't even know if there'll be DSi-exclusive games yet; if so, they'd probably only be so for using the camera or something, not because they're too powerful for a vanilla DS. --[[User:Martonimos|Marton]]([[wp:Chanukah|I'm Jewish]])[[User talk:Martonimos|imos]] 22:44, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
::Like, they didn't create a new Pokémon game for the Game Boy SP, the games that came out after it(FrLg and Emerald) wer for the GBA. The same is going to go for the DS and the DSi. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 20:27, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

== Quality of this article ==

Isn't good. It isn't up to any standard of quality. It reads more like an editorial or some other kind of opinion piece than an encyclopedic one. Given that, what can we do to fix it? I think we can only really say that nothing has been announced, yet. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 05:55, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
: Stale Comment reply!: Right now, all it is is a list of things we know will happen or we think will happen. We might add a couple of pictures, but I can see how it would be hard to incorporate them. But with the latest news, it looks like we're not seeing Gen V games until mid-late 2010 in Japan, and early-mid 2011 everywhere else. However, by August of this year, we'll most likely have at least the {{p|Munchlax}} of Gen V and we can pretty much copy this article over to a rough Gen V page. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 17:12, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

== (Very!) Random Trivia ==

I've noticed something very interesting about the introduction of new Generations. One or more Pokémon from the next Generation are always revealed in the movie that features the last Pokémon in the current Generation. This has happened three times, and could well happen again:
*Pokémon the First Movie - Features Mewtwo and Mew, the last Gen I Pokémon - Introduces Marill, Snubbull and Donphan
*Pokémon 4ever - Features Celebi, the last Gen II Pokémon - Introduces Wailmer and Azurill
*Destiny Deoxys - Features Deoxys, the last Gen III Pokémon - Introduces Munchlax
In the first two cases, those were not the first Pokémon of the new Gen to be revealed, and most of them were in Pikachu shorts, but it's still quite an interesting thing to note. If this pattern continues, then there could be one or more Gen V Pokémon in the twelfth movie (or its Pikachu short), as it features Arceus, the last Gen IV Pokémon. Is this worth mentioning in the article, or is it just useless trivia? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 20:33, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:Probably not worth mentioning if they weren't the first, but that does seem to be good research. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|10% Satisfaction Guaranteed!]] 20:35, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::Worth it in my opinion, although most people already believe at least one will appear. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 20:55, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

==Location?==
Heres something I noticed Kanto seems to be the centre with Johto to the west, Hoenn to the south and Sinnoh to the north. This suggests that gen 5 will be to the east of Kanto to me. [[User:Psycho Mick|Psycho Mick]] 23:32, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:Take a look at [[Pokémon world in relation to the real world|the main picture of the article]]. There's nothing to the east of Kanto. This should belong on the forums anyway. '''~ overgrown'''[[User:Sol|s]][[User_talk:Sol|o]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|l]] 23:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

== Idea ==

I just noticed something that I don't think is there. My theory is, if there is a game set in generation five, they will have a trio and if they make a generation six then there will be the trio's master in those games. Just look here;
Gen I: Birds,
Gen II: Lugia,
Gen III: Regis,
Gen IV: Regigigas.

Does anyone agree with me?
--[[User:KelsUsedSplash|KelsUsedSplash]] 01:16, 3 May 2009 (UTC)