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Talk:Sylveon (Pokémon)

2013-02-16T02:03:06Z

Kektklik: /* Name origin */ A sylph is a wind nymph.

Should this be added to the [[List of Pokémon with cross-generational evolutions]]? --[[User:GoldenSandslash15|GoldenSandslash15]] ([[User talk:GoldenSandslash15|talk]]) 02:00, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

== Name origin ==

Are there any reasonable explanations for the origin of its name? I've seen "Nymph" and "Ninja" floating around, but maybe someone who knows more about Japanese could take a closer look at its name (especially with the other Eeveelutions' names being very straightforward). --[[User:Perlgia|Perlgia]] ([[User talk:Perlgia|talk]]) 08:24, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
:It's better to not add the name origin before we have more info, but I think "Nymph" is the most likely origin since it's very similar to its Japanese name: ニンフ and ニンフィア. If it came from "Ninja", they would make it more obvious.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 08:50, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

It's a bit weird that we have VaporEON, JoltEON, FlarEON,and so on, and now we have NinFIA. They'll probably change it to Ninfeon. Just my opinion. --[[User:VictiniLopunny7|VictiniLopunny7]] ([[User talk:VictiniLopunny7|talk]]) 13:40, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
:Ninfia is the Japanese name, the English name has been released yet.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:45, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
::My guess is that its English is going to be something like "Nympheon". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:51, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
:::Guessing is for the forum where this discussion belongs. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 13:52, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
::::But Ninfia could also be from Nimbus cloud, which in Japanese is ニンブース (Ninbuusu). So it really could be anything right now, so until it's type is revealed we can't say. --[[User:S2daam|--samm :)]] ([[User talk:S2daam|talk]]) 16:37, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
:::::Except it's not. In fact, [http://www.google.com/search?q=%E3%83%8B%E3%83%B3%E3%83%96%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&nfpr=1 the only result on google] for ニンブース (Ninbuusu) is a comment trying to resolve this Pokémon's name. The usual spelling of the English 'nimbus' in Japanese is ニンバス (Ninbasu). [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] ([[User talk:Bluesun|talk]]) 21:01, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

"Sylveon" is probably based on the air elemental "Sylph", so "Nymph" would make even more sense as the name origin of Ninfia. --[[User:Perlgia|Perlgia]] ([[User talk:Perlgia|talk]]) 13:58, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

:"Sylveon" could just as easily be a reference to Sylvan, which relates to the woods more than to air, also both "Sylph" and "Nymph" are female-only mythological spirits, which ties with the asthetic similar to the female-dominant fairy-group pokemon. [[User:OneInTwenty|OneInTwenty]] ([[User talk:OneInTwenty|talk]]) 22:54, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

:To also add to that, its French name is Nymphali, so I guess 'nymph' as the name origin for its Japanese name seems that more likely. [[User:Rai Marshall|Rai Marshall]] ([[User talk:Rai Marshall|talk]]) 21:38, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
::A Sylph is a mythical creature that is said to inhabit the air. A dictionary (and many RPGs) told me so. Nymph is only a generalized name for a sylph, salamander, gnome, or undine. --[[User:Kektklik|Kektklik]] ([[User talk:Kektklik|talk]]) 02:03, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

== English name is Sylveon ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pse_I1klRhA

From the official Pokémon channel.--'''[[User:Radio Rebel|♪ Radio Rebel ♪]]''' - ''[[User talk:Radio Rebel|Reject the status quo!]]'' 13:08, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

== German Name Origin ==

I’d say the German name is a mix of ‘Fee’ (fairy) and Felinae (felinae), ending in -ara just as Nachtara (Umbreon) and Flamara (Flareon). Any other ideas about that? Should we add the Fee/felinae part to the German name explanation? [[User:Peterpansexuell|Peterpansexuell]] ([[User talk:Peterpansexuell|talk]]) 14:13, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
:Please discuss this on the forums, as it would be best to speculate there. Its name could come from a lot of things, it is hard to say for sure until we know more information. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 14:17, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
::By now it's pretty obvious that in every language its name is based on a feminine mythological creature: Nymph (Japanese and French), Sylph (English) and "Fee" (German for "fairy"). The "felinae" part is debatable, but the mythological pattern is there. --[[User:Perlgia|Perlgia]] ([[User talk:Perlgia|talk]]) 17:58, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

== Sylveon Video Moves ==

I'm sure in the video featuring Sylveon, it uses moves similiar to both Swift and Trump Card, could this be added?[[User:TurtleLover1999|TurtleLover1999]] ([[User talk:TurtleLover1999|talk]]) 17:35, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

:I think we should wait until all of the moves that Sylveon can learn are revealed. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 19:14, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
::We will not be adding any information into the articles unless it has been confirmed by an official source. Adding the moves because they look like "Swift" would be speculation. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 19:17, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

== Reddish fur? ==

Unless I am color blind, I think that "reddish fur" it has would more be a light/hot pink, ''not'' "reddish". —[[User:Clubchloe1|'''Club''']][[User talk:Clubchloe1|'''chloe1''']] 19:36, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
: Well, it was a guess as to the color of the fur from the image in the scan. I would agree to changing the color described. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 02:21, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

== Miscelaneous details ==

Tied with Vaporeon, Umbreon, and Leafeon for tallest eeveelution. [[User:OneInTwenty|OneInTwenty]] ([[User talk:OneInTwenty|talk]]) 22:54, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
:The fact that it is joint first with three other Eeveelutions is unnotable. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 23:07, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

== First Gen VI Pokémon to make an anime debut? ==

I think this might be too early to post, but since Sylveon is confirmed to appear in the upcoming [[Pikachu short]] ''[[PK25]]'', does that make Sylveon the first Generation VI Pokémon to debut in the anime? --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 00:41, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
:PK25 doesn't air until July 13, and the anime still has a few months left. They could throw something in between now and then, so I say we wait. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 00:48, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

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2010-06-25T19:02:26Z

Kektklik: dunno what "roundy" is, but it's messing up the display for the cells

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2010-06-25T19:00:00Z

Kektklik: testing something: feel free to revert

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Hoenn Route 119

2010-05-30T03:15:53Z

Kektklik: /* Trivia */

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'''Route 119''' is an extremely long north-south route located in central [[Hoenn]]. The path, linking [[Fortree City]] in the north with {{rt|118}} to the south, is home to the [[Weather Institute]] and is one of the few routes with [[Tall grass#long grass|long grass]] and variable [[weather conditions]]. It is also home to {{p|Feebas}}, Hoenn's version of {{p|Magikarp}}. However, unlike Magikarp, Feebas is difficult to find and evolves only if its Beauty rating is high. The desire to obtain a {{p|Milotic}}, Feebas's evolved form, is what often lures trainers to Route 119.

==Route description==
Heading north from Route 118, Route 119 begins as a short path before reaching the southern-most point of a large field of long grass. Because of the length of the grass, it is impossible to ride a [[Bicycle]] through the field, forcing trainers to walk through. As trainers enter the grass, it often begins to rain, and this affects all battles on the route. Mixed throughout the grass are six trainers, as well as two items. North of the field, Route 119 parallels a river for a short distance, allowing trainers to {{m|Surf}} across the river to gain access to another trainer, an item and another patch of grass.

Returning to the main path, Route 119 passes a trainer as it turns northeast to follow the course of the river, which flows north-south to its southern end on Route 118. As it returns north, the route begins climbing uphill. After ascending a set of stairs, trainers can pass through a patch of grass to reach a [[loamy soil]] patch with {{b|Sitrus}} and {{b|Leppa}} [[Berry|Berries]]. Also, by using the [[Acro Bike]], they can cross a narrow bridge to reach an area with no items of interest other than two locations that can be used to create a [[Secret Base]].

The main path of the route continues up the side of a hill, ascending two more flights and turning northeast as it passes a pair of trainers, including [[Pokémon Ranger (trainer class)|Pokémon Ranger]] Catherine. At the top of the hill, near Catherine, the route sharply turns to the west, crossing one of the longest bridges in Hoenn to traverse the river valley below. On the other side, the route curves north as it climbs up another set of stairs. Just north of this point is Pokémon Ranger Jackson, followed by a grass patch to his immediate north.

North of this patch is a split in the route. The west branch contains only one trainer and offers a direct path to the Weather Institute. The drawback is that trainers must have the [[Mach Bike]] to use it. The east branch has no trainers but is occupied by a large amount of grass. Near the northeast corner of this path is an [[Elixir]] lying in the grass. To the west of the item, the east path ascends two sets of stairs before merging with the west path, which encounters another trainer on the way to this junction, on top of the hill.

Between this point and the Weather Institute, Route 119 runs northwest along the edges of a pair of grassy areas. At the Weather Institute, the route turns east, crossing the river once again.

On the east bank of the river, Route 119 comes to a three-way intersection. To the south of this point is the only area where trainers can Surf from on the upper portion of the river. The main path of Route 119 turns north, where the player will encounter their rival for a battle.

By Surfing south along the river from this point, trainers can reach a [[Leaf Stone]] located just north of a waterfall. By Surfing north, trainers that can use {{m|Waterfall}} can climb a small waterfall to reach an upper area of Route 119 containing {{b|Hondew}} Berries. Trainers with Acro Bikes will be able to reach a [[Rare Candy]] by crossing a series of bridges.

North of the three-way junction, Route 119 continues to the northeast, passing a pair of ninjas attempting to camouflage themselves as trees amongst the forest. Near the northern end is another loamy soil patch containing three [[Pomeg Berry]] plants. Directly east of the patch is the west entrance to Fortree City.

===Finding Feebas===
Feebas is an elusive find along Route 119. Instead of fishing in any location as customary with most Pokémon, Feebas is located in only six water blocks along the route. There is no easy method to determine which block contains Feebas, as the only way is to drop a line into each and every water block on the route. Once hooked, however, Feebas is an easy catch.

==Items==
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{{Itlistbod|Elixir|Mixed amongst the grass near the center of the route|RSE}}
{{Itlistbod|Max Ether|Hidden in a tiny patch of land east of the upper waterfall|RSE}}
{{Itlistbod|Leaf Stone|At the southernmost tip of the middle-level river|RSE}}
{{Itlistbod|Super Repel|In the large grass patch at the southern end of the route|RSE}}
{{Itlistbod|Hyper Potion|Along the western branch near the center of the route In the large grass patch at the southern end of the route|RSE|display={{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}} (2)}}
{{Itlistbod|Zinc|On the patch of land northwest of the main path on the lowest level|RSE}}
{{Itlistbod|Calcium|Hidden in the square of flowers beside a Secret Base entrance just west of the first waterfall|RSE}}
{{Itlistbod|Rare Candy|Near the maze of bridges on the upper-most part of the route|RSE}}
{{Itlistbod|Nugget|Far north past the upper waterfall, [[Acro Bike]] and {{m|Waterfall}} required.|RSE}}
{{Itlistbod|Leppa Berry|In the loamy soil near the first bridge|RSE}}
{{Itlistbod|Hondew Berry|In the loamy soil near the upper waterfall|RSE}}
{{Itlistbod|Pomeg Berry|In the loamy soil near Fortree City|RSE}}
{{Itlistbod|Sitrus Berry|In the loamy soil near the first bridge|RSE}}
{{Itlistfoot}}

==Pokémon==
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{{catchentry3|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|yes|[[Old Rod]]|5-10|70%}}
{{catchentry3|072|Tentacool|yes|yes|yes|[[Old Rod]]|5-10|30%}}
{{catchentry3|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|yes|[[Good Rod]]|10-30|60%}}
{{catchentry3|072|Tentacool|yes|yes|yes|[[Good Rod]]|10-30|20%}}
{{catchentry3|318|Carvanha|yes|yes|yes|[[Good Rod]]|30-40|20%}}
{{catchentry3|318|Carvanha|yes|yes|yes|[[Super Rod]]|20-45|100%}}
{{catchbar|Six Random Squares|water}}
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==Trainers==
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==Trivia==
*Route 119 is, for all intents and purposes, an exact mirror of {{rt|111}}, its climate, situation, weather effects and wild Pokémon are all the reverse of {{rt|111}}'s.

==See also==
*[[Weather Institute]]

{{Hoenn}}
{{Project Routes}}

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Molly Hale

2010-05-16T21:57:05Z

Kektklik: fixed spelling error

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'''Molly Hale''' (Japanese: '''ミー・スノードン''' ''Me Snowdon'') is a little girl from the town of [[Greenfield]], the daughter of two researchers. Her Japanese voice is 矢島晶子 ''Akiko Yajima'', and her English voice is [[Amy Birnbaum]].

In the {{pkmn|movie}} ''[[M03|Spell of the Unown]]'', both her parents disappear; first her unnamed mother, then her father [[Spencer Hale|Spencer]], leaving her in the care of the family servants. Her father left behind a mysterious puzzle box with {{OBP|Unown|Spell of the Unown}} letter tiles.

Molly uses the tiles to spell the names of people important to her, and when she begins to cry, the Unown spring to life and grant her wish.

The town is engulfed by crystal, enveloping everything and driving everyone but Molly from the mansion. Molly's wish for better companionship brings about a bizarre entity -- just before he had left, Spencer had read her a story about the great volcano beast {{p|Entei}}, and so the Unown summon a spectral {{OBP|Entei|Spell of the Unown}} to serve as her father.

Molly decides she needs a mother as well, and has the Entei bring [[Delia Ketchum]] to her. Delia is hypnotized into believing that she is the girl's true mother until she sees her son {{Ash}} risk his life to enter the crystallized mansion. Since that moment, Delia tries to reason with Molly, helping and protecting her through the movie.

Molly takes three forms over the course of the movie -- her true form as a small child, a pre-teen to battle Misty, and a teenager to face Brock. The last two were crystalline like Entei, and can be interpreted as a physical manifestation of her dreams while her real body is asleep in her bedroom.

By the end, Molly realizes what her wish is doing to those around her, and the false Entei sacrifices himself to drive away the Unown.

She is not alone for long, as her father, and later her mother, both returned soon.

During the end credits, she has a real Pokémon, a {{p|Teddiursa}}.

==Pokémon==
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===Pokémon used under the spell of the Unown===
*Molly's dream Pokémon are stronger than regular Pokémon as stated by {{an|Brock}}.
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Phanpy's only known move is {{m|Rollout}}.}}

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|desc={{p|Kingdra}} was Molly's first Pokémon she used in her battle against {{an|Misty}}. After Molly had raised the water making the whole field under water she summons her Kingdra. It starts off by using {{m|SmokeScreen}}, and then {{m|Headbutt}}. After [[Misty's Goldeen]]'s failed {{m|Fury Attack}}, Kingdra wins the battle.}}

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|epnum=M03
|epname=Spell of Unown
|desc=Entei was a physical manifestation created by the Unown of Molly's desires and lust for control. He is an illusionary Entei that appeared to Molly after she made a wish to the {{OBP|Unown|Spell of the Unown}}. He served as a replacement father for her while her real father, [[Spencer Hale|Spencer]], was trapped in the [[Alternate dimension|Unown dimension]]. When {{Ash}} attempted to confront Entei to get his mother back, his {{AP|Totodile}} and {{AP|Cyndaquil}} were rapidly defeated, with {{AP|Pikachu}} only lasting longer without faring any better, and even {{AP|Charizard}} — who had witnessed the incident on television at the [[Charicific Valley]] and come to help — was only able to hold Entei off without actually defeating it. However, when Entei was about to break Charizard's neck, Molly finally decided that she wanted things to be real again.}}

==Voice actors==
{{vatable|color={{crystal color}}|bordercolor={{crystal color light}}
|ja=Akiko Yajima
|en=[[Amy Birnbaum]]
|pt_br=Christiane Monteiro
|es_eu=Ana Esther Alborg}}

==Trivia==
*Molly Hale is unique among the human antagonists as she is the only Pokémon movie antagonist so far who is motivated by sadness and loneliness; and not by a lust for power or control.

{{-}}
{{Moviecharacters}} 
{{Project Anime notice|no}}

[[Category:Movie characters|Hale, Molly]]
[[Category:Movie antagonists|Hale, Molly]]
[[Category:Female characters]]
[[de:Molly Hale]]
[[ja:ミー]]

Talk:Bug-Catching Contest

2010-05-15T23:55:31Z

Kektklik: /* Thursday/Saturday only? */ new section

==Scoring?==
How do we know for sure that shinyness and other factors don't affect the scores? I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 10:28, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Unless shininess affects the stats (which, I've found, it doesn't) then it won't affect the score. The score is determined by the overall stats and the amount of health remaining. For further details, look a couple topics down. --[[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 17:11, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

== Crystal Catchability ==

According to the [[National Park]] page, [[Paras]] cannot be obtained outside the bug catching contest. If this is true, not only does this page contain false information, it leaves [[Venonat]] as the only Pokémon catchable outside the contest leading me to want this

:"Except for Caterpie and Metapod in Gold, and Weedle and Kakuna in Silver, none of the above Pokémon are seen in the National Park outside the Bug-Catching Contest. In Pokémon Crystal, however, only Butterfree, Beedrill, Scyther, and Pinsir are not available in the wild outside of the contest."

change to this

:"Except for Caterpie and Metapod in Gold, and Weedle and Kakuna in Silver, none of the above Pokémon are seen in the National Park outside the Bug-Catching Contest. In Pokémon Crystal, however, Venonat is also available in the wild outside the contest."

or something similar. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 20:28, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== Point System ==

Does anyone understand the point system? How does it work? Also, there are specific trainer names that reoccur. Check on it. I'll write it down as well. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 00:09, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:Cooltrainer Nick usually always wins with a Butterfree. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 00:16, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I spent a lot of time studying the numbers and this appears to be how the score is determined: it is the combined stats (attack + defense + special attack + special defense + speed) times a multiplier (which I've found ranged from about 1.8 to 3.0. The multiplier's primarily affected by the health of the pokemon when it's caught. If you catch one without weakening it at all, you get the highest possible multiplier. Whether or not this is affected by a change in the pokemon's status condition, I'm not sure. Plus I think number of rounds taken to capture and/or number of pokeballs used in the attempt might affect the multiplier. But this appears to be the primary conditions: stats and remaining hp. I've caught a level 15 Pinsir and not even registered in the rankings because I caught it with about 4 hp remaining, but have won using a level 13 Venonat which still had all of its hp. Rarity and level affect the stats... sort of. The rarer pokemon on the field tend to have higher stats, and of course level affects stats. But if you can catch something without damaging it, you have a pretty good chance at winning. This last time, I got first place on the first try and that didn't happen hardly ever before I discovered this. (Btw, this was discovered using SoulSilver(Jpn).) --[[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 17:05, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

I may have been premature on this. After continued study, it looks as though the length of time taken to capture or number of failed attempts may have a more significant impact on the score. I caught a level 14 Pinsir and won, but the point multiplier was barely above 2.0 (stats totaled 157, winning score was 336... I was expecting something about 100 points higher.) It took several rounds to capture this one... so... I'll continue to study this and report any further findings. I won't be satisfied until I know the mathematical formula of exactly how the score is determined. It's a question which has haunted me since G/S/C first came out. --[[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 18:48, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

== HG/SS Bug Catching Levels ==

From my experiences, the levels of the Wild Pokémon found are the exact same as they were from Gen II. Someone correct me if I'm wrong! [[User:Shoy|Shoy]] 08:17, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:At the very least I doubt you can catch Weedle at level 35... [[User:Derian|[[Derian]]]] 15:12, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, and the rarity appears to be the same as well. However, after obtaining the National Pokedex, more bug-types become available. --[[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 17:08, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

== Prizes ==
According to serebii.net, it's possible to win other stones besides the [[Sun Stone]] if you win first place, in HG/SS. http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/nationalpark.shtml So far, I've only won Sun Stones for getting first place, however. --[[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 17:23, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
:You probably have to get the National Dex first. Otherwise, you could get Pokes not in the Johto Dex like Mismagius and Honchkrow. [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 20:30, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Is there someway that we could categorize the prizes as Post-national Dex as the Sun Stone is the only item that you can get for placing in first place without the National Dex. Thanks.–'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 20:26, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Really? i need a Water Stone, but you say that a Water Stone is obtainable when get the National Dex, right, for now the only 1st prize is a Sun Stone always, right?

You can get a Water Stone prior to the National Dex, just not from the Bug-Catching Contest. Actually, you could technically get any stone prior to that if you were to acquire a pokemon holding that stone. But Water Stone... it seems like I found one somewhere sometime before reaching Goldenrod City. Also, once you add Fisherman Tully to your call list, he'll sometimes call to offer you a Water Stone. Sometimes that's the prize for beating him in a rematch. But yes. Until you get the National Dex, a Sun Stone is the only possible prize for first place. --[[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 19:54, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

== Umm... ==

I caught a level 31 Weedle last Tuesday in the contest. I also saw a level 31 Caterpie as well. But I wouldn't wanna go and change it without permission.--[[User:Pokelova|''ポケモン恋人'']][[User talk:Pokelova|''(チャット)'']][[Special:Contributions/Pokelova|''(貢献)'']] 23:31, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
:Permission granted. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 00:24, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== A Winner Is You Trivia, Incorrect. ==

I can confirm (with a screenshot if needed) that the trainer Don, when spoken to after you win the Bug-Catching Contest, does -not- say "A winner is you?!" He says, "You won? The winner is you?!" Which could very easily just be an exclamation, and not a reference to a meme at all. {{unsigned|Erikhogue}}

== GS/SS Levels ==

Are we sure that those levels given are ALWAYS present, and they don't increase after a point in the game? Makes a lot more sense than the current set-up which seems to imply the bugs go up to Level 30 at any point in the game. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:55, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:Just a note - Caterpies go up to Level 36, and I've seen a Level 30 Butterfree and Level 29 Pinsir. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:58, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:: Right now im lookin at a level 28 metapod too. Wouldnt the game guidebook have it? [[User:Meesa yoda|Meesa yoda]] 21:37, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
:::A game guide would have a lot of info that would improve many articles here, am I right? The issue is that sometimes, the game guides are wrong. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:33, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

== Thursday/Saturday only? ==

As far as I've seen, I've been able to catch Nincada on Tues/Thurs/Sat. Level 33+ Nincada at full health wins it for me too. [[User:Kektklik|Kektklik]] 23:55, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Jynx (Pokémon)

2010-04-19T03:39:11Z

Kektklik: /* Possible name trivia */

==Redesign Date==
The article says that Nintendo changed Jynx's design for Ruby/Sapphire. But... um... is it just me or did Gold/Silver already have the redesigned Jynx? Her lips are smaller, her face and hands are purple, and her arms are white, just like the redesigned version.

==Gender==

In Pokemon Silver Edition, I caught several male Jynx. So, umm, is this just going by Red/Blue/Yellow standards? -- [[User:Kektklik|Kektklik]] 12:51, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

:That sounds an awful lot like a glitch or a hack -- did you buy your game second-hand, or ever use a gameshark? Or maybe you game was a bootleg? [[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 13:13, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
::I know I didn't find any males in Gold. (And I spent a while looking since I didn't know they were only female back then.) --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 15:12, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
:::I did buy it used, but I started a new game over the one that was already present. [[User:Kektklik|Kektklik]] 03:37, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

== Jynx's Feet ==

This point probably isn't important but in EP090 (Stage Fight) Jynx is shown to have hairy feet - you can see them near the end of the episode when all of the Pokémon are dancing, kicking their legs/feet. Can this be confirmed? --☆[[User:Woodland Mudkip|Woodland:M]] ☆ 21:15, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

It does have feet, big ones too, but not hairy--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:24, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:It doesn't really matter that they're not hairy, but that's the only time Jynx has been shown to have feet when it's generally accepted that Jynx doesn't have any. It's not really a big point but it should probably be added to its physiology unless it's a mistake --☆[[User:Woodland Mudkip|Woodland:M]] ☆ 22:22, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

== Mean With Envy ==
From the controversy section:
"''This change was not reflected in the anime until much later, when Jynx appeared in Mean With Envy, an episode which could not be cut from airing due to its importance to the plot of the Advanced Generation series. '''Though appearing as black in the original Japanese, Jynx was recolored in the dub, causing a delay in the airing of the episode.''' Jynx has appeared since using its new design with no problems."''

I don't watch the Japanese episodes, but wasn't she was purple in the Japanese version of that episode too? I remember people being very annoyed that the episodes aired late BECAUSE Jynx had already been fixed in them, even in the original airing, and Serebii also has pictures of the Japanese version of the episode and she's purple in them too. {{unsigned|Razzia}}
:This is correct, [http://www.filb.de/?site=anime/eppics&ep=ag115 here] are pics from the Japanese airing, Jynx is clearly purple. Someone please change this. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 00:46, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

==Vandalism?==
In Pokemon Mystery Dungeon part, why is there odd symbols? Does Jynx really say that or is that vandalism? --[[User:PKFL 531|PKFL 531]] 22:02, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
:Look in the trivia section of the article. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 22:07, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

==Thunderpunch==

In its generation II learnset it says it can be taught thunderpunch.

mine couldn't learn it.

Should this be deleted?

--[[User:WeedleMaster|WeedleMaster]] 02:09, 3 November 2009 (UTC)User: WeedleMaster

== Orgin ==

Um....I know this will probably be taken as my opinion only by the more extremist of the community, but i'll say it anyways.

Wouldn't some of Jynx be based on "the fat lady?" You know the one with a horned hat, spear, sheild and a golden chest plate you see in Opera? I'm pretty sure its singing has been mentioned somewhere, and it appears to be animated singing in its Emerald sprite. Its FR/LG Sprite seems to take a singing stance.

http://davegranlund.com/cartoons/wp-content/uploads/color-wall-st-fat-ldy-web.jpg

that picture ain't pretty but it should convey the point. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 22:53, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
:I believe the word you're looking for is "Valkyrie". --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:55, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

:: Yeah, the opera character is a Valkyrie if I read right. I changed the picture to something a little more pleasant. Its just I've kind of always put the two together, even as a kid. I'm surprised there was no mention of such a thing in Jynx origin. Many focus on the it being from a Japanese trend, or go to the racist thing and might over look the other things it could originate from. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 23:04, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

::: Should I add the info on it possibly being based in some part on the "fat lady" aka Valkyrie Brünhilde? Or would that seem to opinionated/need some kind of pain in the butt citation? From experience I know a article could be full of uncited and/or opinionated things, but when I come around I get confronted and told off. I think this would be a welcomed addition, and might level out some of the negative origin. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 23:30, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
::::The problem I can see with it is simply this: would it be reasonable to believe that Jynx is based off of them? I'm not familiar with Japan, so the main question is whether they're well-known over there; enough so to be the origin for a Pokémon. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 23:53, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

::::: I don't see why they wouldn't know of the Fat lady or the reference pretending to her in Opera and in cartoons. You have to remember that before the US had any influence in japan it was Europe mostly. I think the school girl uniforms are based on British sailor uniforms if I remember right. Then you have to take into account the Japanese love for '''Disney.''' '''DBZ''' which was made in the late 80's early 90's had three characters based on the '''Cinderella''' song '''"Bibidi Babadi Boo."''' Also I think '''Bugs Bunny''' has crossed over there in his 50+ years along with the other '''Looney Tunes'''. If Disney never made a reference to the Fat lady then Looney Tunes would defiantly be the next best bet. Opera started in Italy if I am correct, and we can all think of two Italians that came from Japan and made Nintendo lots of money. If Nintendo could bank on '''Italian Plumbers''' as a mascot for a multi-billion dollar company, I'm sure they have been influenced by western culture. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 00:36, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

:::::: So....would there be any objections if i add this? I just don't want to add the info then have to fight for it tooth and nail with someone wanting citations or anything. I've had plenty of experience with that, mostly on wikipedia but it is still a pain.

:::::: I'm still thinking of how to word it so the addition might not be done right away. I'm not sure if Valkyrie would be too vague or generic, or if the addition should be blunt and say Jynx appearance and behavior (look at the game sprite(s) in later gens) may be based of the stereotypical Fat lady that sings. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 16:11, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

:::::: Regular Wikipedia claims that Jynx's design was based on a blackface design; more specifically, it looks like a Golliwog, a rather racist doll depicting a black person. I understand the Valkyrie business, but since the U.S. version banned an episode because Jynx was black instead of purple, I think it's worthy of being mentioned in the article. [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/AreYouReallySellingThat.jpg/450px-AreYouReallySellingThat.jpg Golliwog Picture][[User:Giamberardino|Giamberardino]] 07:34, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::Wikipedia is not a viable source. They say what ever a random person decides to put in. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:20, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

:::::: Bulbapedia says it too: [[EP250]] Just saying. If you wanna talk about its costume, that's sort of the elephant in the room... [[User:Giamberardino|Giamberardino]] 17:24, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

== Mr. Mime? ==

Wouldn't Jynx's male counterpart be Mr. Mime?

technically no as, despite what its name may suggest, mr. mime can be both male and female and jynx has no anatomical or evolutionary relation to mr. mime. --- [[User:Eevee Obsessed 008|Eevee Obsessed 008]]

== Native Region ==

Jynx is not available in the Kanto region except through the trade in Cerulean City, should it be noted that perhaps Jynx may not be native to Kanto? --- [[User:Convoy|Convoy]]
:In HGSS, Jynx can be caught in [[Seafoam Islands]]. While it may have been imported there, or have migrated there, it would be speculation to say that it isn't from Kanto. This goes against Bulbapedia policy. `—'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:08, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

==Possible name trivia==
Is it worth noting that, if "y" is not counted, Jynx has no vowels in its name (and is the only Pokémon for which this is true)? --[[User:Jared|Ja]][[User talk:Jared|red]] 20:59, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:But that's just the thing.. "Y" is ''sometimes'' a vowel. There are even words in English that have "w" being the vowel. [[User:Kektklik|Kektklik]] 03:39, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

== Racial stereotype? ==

Personally I disagree with Carole Wethorfords opinion. Jynx is tinted purple, not brown. The original desighn was jet black, not brown. Is black magic racist? Are shadows racist? Are black cats racist? If so than she would have alot of problems with fiction. Second, Jynx has blonde hair. The only blondes I know are caucasions. Wethorforde must have a lot of problems with evil.{{unsigned|SeanWheeler}}
:That may all be, but doesn't change the fact there was controversy about that Pokémon. This is, quite frankly, not the page to discuss whether the controversy was justified, the most you could discuss whether it belongs into the article.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] 18:02, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Jynx (Pokémon)

2010-04-19T03:37:10Z

Kektklik: /* Gender */ really over due response

==Redesign Date==
The article says that Nintendo changed Jynx's design for Ruby/Sapphire. But... um... is it just me or did Gold/Silver already have the redesigned Jynx? Her lips are smaller, her face and hands are purple, and her arms are white, just like the redesigned version.

==Gender==

In Pokemon Silver Edition, I caught several male Jynx. So, umm, is this just going by Red/Blue/Yellow standards? -- [[User:Kektklik|Kektklik]] 12:51, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

:That sounds an awful lot like a glitch or a hack -- did you buy your game second-hand, or ever use a gameshark? Or maybe you game was a bootleg? [[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 13:13, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
::I know I didn't find any males in Gold. (And I spent a while looking since I didn't know they were only female back then.) --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 15:12, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
:::I did buy it used, but I started a new game over the one that was already present. [[User:Kektklik|Kektklik]] 03:37, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

== Jynx's Feet ==

This point probably isn't important but in EP090 (Stage Fight) Jynx is shown to have hairy feet - you can see them near the end of the episode when all of the Pokémon are dancing, kicking their legs/feet. Can this be confirmed? --☆[[User:Woodland Mudkip|Woodland:M]] ☆ 21:15, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

It does have feet, big ones too, but not hairy--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:24, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:It doesn't really matter that they're not hairy, but that's the only time Jynx has been shown to have feet when it's generally accepted that Jynx doesn't have any. It's not really a big point but it should probably be added to its physiology unless it's a mistake --☆[[User:Woodland Mudkip|Woodland:M]] ☆ 22:22, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

== Mean With Envy ==
From the controversy section:
"''This change was not reflected in the anime until much later, when Jynx appeared in Mean With Envy, an episode which could not be cut from airing due to its importance to the plot of the Advanced Generation series. '''Though appearing as black in the original Japanese, Jynx was recolored in the dub, causing a delay in the airing of the episode.''' Jynx has appeared since using its new design with no problems."''

I don't watch the Japanese episodes, but wasn't she was purple in the Japanese version of that episode too? I remember people being very annoyed that the episodes aired late BECAUSE Jynx had already been fixed in them, even in the original airing, and Serebii also has pictures of the Japanese version of the episode and she's purple in them too. {{unsigned|Razzia}}
:This is correct, [http://www.filb.de/?site=anime/eppics&ep=ag115 here] are pics from the Japanese airing, Jynx is clearly purple. Someone please change this. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 00:46, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

==Vandalism?==
In Pokemon Mystery Dungeon part, why is there odd symbols? Does Jynx really say that or is that vandalism? --[[User:PKFL 531|PKFL 531]] 22:02, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
:Look in the trivia section of the article. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 22:07, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

==Thunderpunch==

In its generation II learnset it says it can be taught thunderpunch.

mine couldn't learn it.

Should this be deleted?

--[[User:WeedleMaster|WeedleMaster]] 02:09, 3 November 2009 (UTC)User: WeedleMaster

== Orgin ==

Um....I know this will probably be taken as my opinion only by the more extremist of the community, but i'll say it anyways.

Wouldn't some of Jynx be based on "the fat lady?" You know the one with a horned hat, spear, sheild and a golden chest plate you see in Opera? I'm pretty sure its singing has been mentioned somewhere, and it appears to be animated singing in its Emerald sprite. Its FR/LG Sprite seems to take a singing stance.

http://davegranlund.com/cartoons/wp-content/uploads/color-wall-st-fat-ldy-web.jpg

that picture ain't pretty but it should convey the point. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 22:53, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
:I believe the word you're looking for is "Valkyrie". --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:55, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

:: Yeah, the opera character is a Valkyrie if I read right. I changed the picture to something a little more pleasant. Its just I've kind of always put the two together, even as a kid. I'm surprised there was no mention of such a thing in Jynx origin. Many focus on the it being from a Japanese trend, or go to the racist thing and might over look the other things it could originate from. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 23:04, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

::: Should I add the info on it possibly being based in some part on the "fat lady" aka Valkyrie Brünhilde? Or would that seem to opinionated/need some kind of pain in the butt citation? From experience I know a article could be full of uncited and/or opinionated things, but when I come around I get confronted and told off. I think this would be a welcomed addition, and might level out some of the negative origin. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 23:30, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
::::The problem I can see with it is simply this: would it be reasonable to believe that Jynx is based off of them? I'm not familiar with Japan, so the main question is whether they're well-known over there; enough so to be the origin for a Pokémon. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 23:53, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

::::: I don't see why they wouldn't know of the Fat lady or the reference pretending to her in Opera and in cartoons. You have to remember that before the US had any influence in japan it was Europe mostly. I think the school girl uniforms are based on British sailor uniforms if I remember right. Then you have to take into account the Japanese love for '''Disney.''' '''DBZ''' which was made in the late 80's early 90's had three characters based on the '''Cinderella''' song '''"Bibidi Babadi Boo."''' Also I think '''Bugs Bunny''' has crossed over there in his 50+ years along with the other '''Looney Tunes'''. If Disney never made a reference to the Fat lady then Looney Tunes would defiantly be the next best bet. Opera started in Italy if I am correct, and we can all think of two Italians that came from Japan and made Nintendo lots of money. If Nintendo could bank on '''Italian Plumbers''' as a mascot for a multi-billion dollar company, I'm sure they have been influenced by western culture. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 00:36, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

:::::: So....would there be any objections if i add this? I just don't want to add the info then have to fight for it tooth and nail with someone wanting citations or anything. I've had plenty of experience with that, mostly on wikipedia but it is still a pain.

:::::: I'm still thinking of how to word it so the addition might not be done right away. I'm not sure if Valkyrie would be too vague or generic, or if the addition should be blunt and say Jynx appearance and behavior (look at the game sprite(s) in later gens) may be based of the stereotypical Fat lady that sings. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 16:11, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

:::::: Regular Wikipedia claims that Jynx's design was based on a blackface design; more specifically, it looks like a Golliwog, a rather racist doll depicting a black person. I understand the Valkyrie business, but since the U.S. version banned an episode because Jynx was black instead of purple, I think it's worthy of being mentioned in the article. [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/AreYouReallySellingThat.jpg/450px-AreYouReallySellingThat.jpg Golliwog Picture][[User:Giamberardino|Giamberardino]] 07:34, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::Wikipedia is not a viable source. They say what ever a random person decides to put in. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:20, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

:::::: Bulbapedia says it too: [[EP250]] Just saying. If you wanna talk about its costume, that's sort of the elephant in the room... [[User:Giamberardino|Giamberardino]] 17:24, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

== Mr. Mime? ==

Wouldn't Jynx's male counterpart be Mr. Mime?

technically no as, despite what its name may suggest, mr. mime can be both male and female and jynx has no anatomical or evolutionary relation to mr. mime. --- [[User:Eevee Obsessed 008|Eevee Obsessed 008]]

== Native Region ==

Jynx is not available in the Kanto region except through the trade in Cerulean City, should it be noted that perhaps Jynx may not be native to Kanto? --- [[User:Convoy|Convoy]]
:In HGSS, Jynx can be caught in [[Seafoam Islands]]. While it may have been imported there, or have migrated there, it would be speculation to say that it isn't from Kanto. This goes against Bulbapedia policy. `—'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:08, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

==Possible name trivia==
Is it worth noting that, if "y" is not counted, Jynx has no vowels in its name (and is the only Pokémon for which this is true)? --[[User:Jared|Ja]][[User talk:Jared|red]] 20:59, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

== Racial stereotype? ==

Personally I disagree with Carole Wethorfords opinion. Jynx is tinted purple, not brown. The original desighn was jet black, not brown. Is black magic racist? Are shadows racist? Are black cats racist? If so than she would have alot of problems with fiction. Second, Jynx has blonde hair. The only blondes I know are caucasions. Wethorforde must have a lot of problems with evil.{{unsigned|SeanWheeler}}
:That may all be, but doesn't change the fact there was controversy about that Pokémon. This is, quite frankly, not the page to discuss whether the controversy was justified, the most you could discuss whether it belongs into the article.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] 18:02, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

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2007-05-08T12:53:43Z

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2007-05-08T12:53:16Z

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==About the User==

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Talk:Jynx (Pokémon)

2007-05-08T12:51:37Z

Kektklik: /* Gender */

==Gender==

In Pokemon Silver Edition, I caught several male Jynx. So, umm, is this just going by Red/Blue/Yellow standards?
-- [[User:Kektklik|Kektklik]] 12:51, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Jynx (Pokémon)

2007-05-08T12:51:22Z

Kektklik: New page: ==Gender== In Pokemon Silver Edition, I caught several male Jynx. So, umm, is this just going by Red/Blue/Yellow standards?

==Gender==

In Pokemon Silver Edition, I caught several male Jynx. So, umm, is this just going by Red/Blue/Yellow standards?