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Talk:Main Page/Archive 9

2009-10-21T22:04:57Z

KantoLegend:

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== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]

== Phantom Thief! Pokémon 7 Article ==

For the Phantom Thief! Pokémon 7 Article, should I use PTP701?

[[User:Kingofun|Kingofun]] 07:44, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
:Sounds good. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''''''Cactus''']] 18:30, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

== Umm ==

Why is the main page theme Snorunt and Froslass?

PS: You can get rid of this and reply on my talk if you'd like. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:16, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:September 9 and some other things. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 05:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::I figured it was for September 9th, but why? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:35, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Echy knows more{{tt|.|:D}} --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 05:36, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::::⑨/⑨/⑨, KG. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:23, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::::... I know, but WHY? What does Froslass and Snorunt have to do with 09/09/09? D= --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:25, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::⑨ deals with a character who has ice powers. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 06:26, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Wow. It looks awesome. Happy Cirno day. Thanks, :3 '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 12:07, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

== SPOILERS!!!!!!! ==

{{spoilers}}
I added some spoiler warnings to the pages about movie characters, as they contained major spoilers for the movies in which they appeared, but then someone deleted them all! Surely it's really important to have warnings on these pages?! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 14:13, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:If you dont want to be spoiled, then dont look at the page. Simple '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:36, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::But visitors need to be warned that there are spoilers on the page! What's the point in having any spoiler warnings at all if only some of the articles with spoilers have them? Some people might read the Latios (anime) article example, thinking it doesn't contain spoilers because it has no spoiler warning, and then find out the entire plot of Heroes before they watch it! I know this is an encyclopedia, but it is still really important to include spoiler warnings on all the pages which contain them. Why don't the articles about movie characters need spoiler warnings even though they contain the exact same spoilers that the articles about the movies do? Why did my spoiler warnings get deleted? Please can I have some help from an administrator? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 09:41, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:::I dislike spoiler warnings. May I ask how you believe how we can have an article about anything without filling you in on some kind of plot detail? We may as well put it on every single page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:46, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I didn't mean a warning for EVERY spoiler, just the major ones. No, we don't need a spoiler warning because an article mentions that Ash sees through Team Rocket's disquise for the three-hundreth time, but if the article mentions that Latios dies, I think that REALLY needs a warning, don't you? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 10:21, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::We don't need it most of the time but some of the bigger stuff (the few deaths, MD2's plot twist) could do with a warning. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:57, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::OK, so should I add one to Latios's article? I'm just worried I might start an edit war if someone removes it again. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 18:18, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

== Help! ==

Can someone tell me on how to include VS in the middle of 2 gym leaders,add winner at the end of two gym leaders and move the whole thing to the left?
This is the thing:
{| align="center" style="background: #00647f; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 4px solid #00647f;" colspan=4 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align="center"
! style="background: #00647f;" colspan="4" | 10th Pokémon League
|-
! style="background: #00647f;" colspan="2" align="center" | {{color|1cb0d9|Generations {{color2|1cb0d9|Generation II|II}} and {{color2|1cb0d9|Generation IV|IV}}}}
! style="background: #00647f;" colspan="2" align="center"|
|-
! style="background: #1cb0d9; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px;" |
[[Image:VSBrock.png|left|Brock]] [[Image:VSJasmine.png|center|Jasmine]]
[[Image:VSMisty.png|left|Misty]] [[Image:VSWhitney.png|right|Whitney]]
[[Image:VSLtSurge.png|left|LtSurge]] [[Image:VSMorty.png|right|Morty]]
[[Image:VSSabrina.png|left|Sabrina]] [[Image:VSBugsy.png|right|Bugsy]]
[[Image:VSJanine.png|left|Janine]] [[Image:VSFalkner.png|right|Falkner]]
[[Image:VSBlue.png|left|Blue]] [[Image:VSChuck.png|right|Chuck]]
[[Image:VSErika.png|left|Erika]] [[Image:VSPryce.png|right|Pryce]]
[[Image:VSBlaine.png|left|Blaine]] [[Image:VSClair.png|right|Clair]]
|}
{{-}}
[[User:Kingofun|Kingofun]] 03:17, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

:What, you mean something like this? With two different ways of doing it.
{| align="left" style="background: #00647f; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 4px solid #00647f;" colspan=5 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align="center"
! style="background: #00647f;" colspan="5" | 10th Pokémon League
|-
! style="background: #00647f;" colspan="3" align="center" | {{color|1cb0d9|Generations {{color2|1cb0d9|Generation II|II}} and {{color2|1cb0d9|Generation IV|IV}}}}
! style="background: #00647f;" colspan="3" align="center"|
|-
| rowspan="2" | [[Image:VSBrock.png|left|Brock]]
! VS
| rowspan="2" | [[Image:VSJasmine.png|center|Jasmine]]
|-
! WINNER <nowiki>>>></nowiki>
|-
| [[Image:VSMisty.png|left|Misty]]
! result
| [[Image:VSWhitney.png|right|Whitney]]
|-
| [[Image:VSLtSurge.png|left|LtSurge]]
! result
| [[Image:VSMorty.png|right|Morty]]
|-
| [[Image:VSSabrina.png|left|Sabrina]]
! result
| [[Image:VSBugsy.png|right|Bugsy]]
|-
| [[Image:VSJanine.png|left|Janine]]
! result
| [[Image:VSFalkner.png|right|Falkner]]
|-
! FORFEIT
|
! WINNER
|-
! style="background: #1cb0d9; border-radius-topleft: 5px;" colspan="3" |
|-
| [[Image:VSBlue.png|left|Blue]]
! result
| [[Image:VSChuck.png|right|Chuck]]
|-
| [[Image:VSErika.png|left|Erika]]
! result
| [[Image:VSPryce.png|right|Pryce]]
|-
| [[Image:VSBlaine.png|left|Blaine]]
! result
| [[Image:VSClair.png|right|Clair]]
|}
{{-}}
:[[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 02:20, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
::That reminds me of the gym leader comp in pokespe. [[User:Lunick v sonela|Lunick v sonela]] 19:06, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
:::That's because it is. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:18, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

== Can anyone? ==

Tell me the link for Pokemon Heartgold and soulsilver on "Red" I want to see what his pokemon are. [[User:DialgaPrimeX|DialgaPrimeX]] 21:21, 13 September 2009 (UTC)DialgaPrimeX
:The information isn't actually up yet, but it's the same as Generation II but with Lapras instead of Espeon. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:23, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

ok Thanks [[User:DialgaPrimeX|DialgaPrimeX]] 21:24, 13 September 2009 (UTC)DialgaPrimeX

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Red_(game)#HeartGold_and_SoulSilver is the link, just in case you still needed it - [[User:Samjohn95|Samjohn95]] 22:07 20 September

== Standard Pokémon Images ==

I brought up this topic on the Project Pokédex discussion, but I didn't get any replies, so I though I'd bring it here instead. This is just a suggestion... do you think it would be better not to use the Emerald and Platinum artwork on the Hoenn and Sinnoh starters' pages? I've noticed that on the official online Pokédexes, as well as recent official books, their RS and DP artwork is still used, and appears to be their "standard" artwork. I know they are the more recent, but Ken Sugimori's Emerald and Platinum illustrations are simply promotional art for those games, and are not considered "standard" by Nintendo. What I'm trying to say is, if Bulbapedia were an official Pokémon site overseen by Nintendo, the Emerald and Platinum artwork wouldn't be used in the main articles, they would use the RS and DP art instead. Does anyone agree with me? Sorry if I made this sound confusing, I didn't really know how else to put it! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 09:54, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:I get what you're saying, but I disagree. We use the latest Sugimori artwork. It ''is'' official artwork, even if for consistency Nintendo uses the RS and DP artwork. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 10:05, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== New Routes? ==

Why aren't there articles for Routes 47 and 48 yet? Shall I create them? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 16:43, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, feel free to create them. People probably just haven't got around to it yet or haven't got that far. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 17:10, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
::Actually it is protected from creation. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 22:27, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
:::All we know is that they have some trainers and a few other things. Not much to go by right now. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 05:49, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I went back to my roots and took care of making both at least to par. More details will be added when we get them of course. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:41, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Serebii.net has screenshots of the new routes. Do you think they would let us use them on Bulbapedia if we asked nicely? --[[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon777''''']] '' 17:02, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
::Serebii gets grumpy when we take his images, so probably not. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 17:06, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
:::We'll get our own ASAP. Juuuust gotta find the, ahem, thing to do so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:22, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== Color change ==

I think we'll keep the GS styling until October 15. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:57, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
:What's so significant about the 15th? --[[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon777''''']] '' 21:17, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
::It's a day after the anime premiered. In the US, that is. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 22:08, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
::And by anime in the US I meant Johto Journeys and in Japan AND America. Probably completely different from TTE's reason though. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 22:10, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Nope. Day GS came out. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 13:06, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Oh! That's logical. --[[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon777''''']] '' 21:38, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

== Summary ==

Why isn't there a page for the summary pages? Or if there is, where is it? [[User:Thermorules123|Thermorules123]] 18:14, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
:Subsection of menu article: [[Menu#Pokémon]]. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:28, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

== PokéPark Wii: Pikachu's Great Adventure ==

http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml Serebii reported that the new Wii game will apparently been called PokéPark Wii: Pikachu's Great Adventure!--[[User:Pokelova|''ポケモン恋人'']][[User talk:Pokelova|<big>''(会話)''</big>]] 08:35, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
:They also said that they are not 100% sure. I hope this isn't the game though... We don't need another dumb mini game. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:38, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
::So it's most likely a WiiWare game?--[[User:Pokelova|''ポケモン恋人'']][[User talk:Pokelova|<big>''(会話)''</big>]] 08:43, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
:::It is for certain a full Wii game to be sold for 4800 yen.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 13:33, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

== Bulb ==

[[File:BP bulb.png|thumb]]
Could this be useful?--'''[[User:Immewnity|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 13:35, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:What do you think it could be used for? we already got an image like that one.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 13:54, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
::The ugly-looking stub template... [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 13:56, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:::We have one like this? 800px?--'''[[User:Immewnity|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 14:23, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
[[File:Bulbapedia logo.png|thumb|left]]
::::Though not in 800px.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 14:31, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::That's the full logo w/ text. This is just bulby.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 15:29, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::If you had a problem with the stub template, you should have bitched about it then instead of now. Everyone else likes it because everyone else contributed in making it. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 19:05, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

==Creating Userspace Tabs==
Is it possible to create user: tabs? If so, how? [[User:Tandra88|Tandra88]] 02:15, 10 October 2009 (UTC)tandra88

:You mean a tab like at the top of the page? (article, discussion, edit?) It may be possible to make one with user .css coding, but it's a bit complicated, especially depending on what you want it for.
:But what do you need one for? Are you asking how to make one for yourself, or suggesting a new tab for the wiki itself? --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 15:04, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
:No, I mean the tabs that appear on your userpages.[[User:Tandra88|Tandra88]] 19:38, 10 October 2009 (UTC)tandra88
::Perhaps you mean {{bp|usertags}}. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:12, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

==Game Screenshots==
I was wondering where this site normally gets it's game screenshots from.[[User:Tandra88|Tandra88]] 21:24, 11 October 2009 (UTC)tandra88
:We tend to take our own, thanks. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:08, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

==Heartgold Soulsilver pics==

How come routes and cities still don't have new pics from HeartGold and SoulSilver up yet?- ''unsigned comment from {{u|KantoLegend}} ([[User talk:KantoLegend|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/KantoLegend|contribs]]) ''
:Probably because we haven't uploaded them yet.--'''[[Water (type)|Liquid]]''' [[Mask of Ice|'''ICE''']] (User:Cold)([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:58, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
::the game have been out for over a month now should someone have done it yet? --[[User:KantoLegend|KantoLegend]] 22:04, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 9

2009-10-21T21:56:36Z

KantoLegend:

Bulbapedia talk:Nominations for administratorship

2008-10-23T16:07:41Z

KantoLegend:

This isn't easy... I just spent 10 minutes going through different users and I couldn't find any that I think deserve this AND match all the guidelines... --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 10:41, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe because they've all been made into admins already? I think we're fine for admins right now, unless we decide that we need someone who can deal with late-night vandal attacks. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 10:44, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
::Honestly, its a more innocent and productive and less disruptive pasttime for bored users than userpages. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 22:38, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

== Voters ==

Anyone agree that we should have guidelines preventing new users from nominating and voting? I'm protecting the page for the time being from new users. We can't have a kid registering just to nominate their friend for adminship. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 02:42, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:Agreed. I think it would be a good idea to stop people from nominating themselves. [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 02:47, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::They can't vote for themselves, but I agree that it is a good idea that new users can't vote.--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]'' 02:49, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::No...wait, i mean like, make a new account, i think on here it's called ''sock-puppeting'', on other websites I'm on its called Mule-ing, like, make a new account and vote for themselves that way :3 [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 02:57, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Oh, ok. I get it. Yeah, that too should probably be checked out. Make sure that the nominations are fair, and don't have the support of sock puppets and new user friends.--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]'' 03:04, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Anyone that would do that sort of thing wouldn't be good material in the first place. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 08:35, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

== Bleh ==

This page is a bad Idea.Everyone and there dog wil have there friends nomionate them or will nominate there friends only.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]] 11:47, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:I agree. It would be nice for it to be deleted. tc26 11:57, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::NO. At last BP is taking steps to be democratic, but you are so happy being ruled over, DCM go to Zimbabwe youll like it there, you get absolutely no say in who leads you, just what you seem to want. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 12:15, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Disagree. Nomination doesn't mean auto-adminship, or adminship at all. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 12:14, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::HAHAH DCM says that and look who he nominated, his best friend Porygon-Z, you cant tell others off for voting for freinds when you vote for Porygon-Z, your best friend. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 12:42, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Voted for him for his good contributions.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]] 12:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Anyone can use that excuse, right as soon as Kuki's here for 6 months im voting for him and ill say "his great contributions" --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 12:45, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::He revamped the TV section and is constantly watching the User SPace.Thank you for your time[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]] 12:46, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::: LOL, when DCM knows hes wrong he results to petty attempts at winding me up, such as the thankyou for your time at the end of his sig, which used to be mine and he enjoyed making fun of. DCM you voted for their friend, and you complain that people can vote for their friends. HYPOCRITE --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 12:50, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::This is not the place to have this argument.But if you look at Porygon-Z contributions....[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]] 12:51, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:A page talking about nominations is exactly the right palce to be arguing about nominations. Im not saying that PZ shouldnt be an admin. I VOTED FOR PZ AS WELL. What im saying is that you cant vote for a friend and then complain that people are voting for their friends, when they might have valid reasons like you. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 12:53, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::Just because they are nominated, doesn't mean they will become one. There is still a final say that goes on. DCM actually voted for someone decent, Everyone else, except for Magnedeth, would be horrible and would cause so many problems. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 12:53, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::I agrre with MO, just because they are nominated doesnt mean they will get it. SO the PAGE STAYS, DEMOCRACY is finally coming to BP. DCM youll have to find another Autocratic site, to be ruled over without having a say, as BP is becoming democratic, which you dont like. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 12:58, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::That statement was to help DCM's case, not yours. I meant that the check Users are the final people to decide whether or not nominees are good enough. In this case, most of them aren't. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 13:00, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::DCMs case is that this page should be deleted, my case is that it shouldnt, so you finished DCMs case for good. We are on the same point of view. We both believe this page should stay. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 13:04, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::I '''hate''' this page and I want it to be killed immediately! I mean look at the recent changes. This page has become as bad as the Userspace... ''in one day''! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 13:07, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
: I dont wanna get into an argument, but why did you say something that basically guranteed the page should say? --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 13:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::You know. I wish people would be as enthusiastic about, oh, I dunno, ''featuring an article''? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:23, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::I attempted to bump the featured article candidate page about 3 or 4 times, but no-one was interested. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 08:06, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Hey, I've voted on more FACs than I ever will requests for adminship. Whoever's supposed to be working on the other end of the project just hasn't featured any of them yet. And as for this, I've gotta say, I don't even think we ''need'' any more admins then we have, unless some upstanding Siberian editor is willing to fend off late-night vandals. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 08:21, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

== Use some common sense ==
Please, don't bother nominating someone who "should get a go and we'll see how they do".
The nomination should be for someone who is clearly an experienced member, and is seen fairly often around the 'pedia.
Don't bother saying "if such and such doesn't have the experience take the powers of them again". It's just a waste of time. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 14:15, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:His contributions are good. He deserves to be an admin based on what he has done and tried to do. I said if he goes corrupt then take the powers away, but he wont go corrupt. he will be a good admin. Im 100% sure. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 14:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::Get real... This argument is getting silly, as is the page. People are only voting for their friends. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 15:09, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm not voting for my friends; i think most people on here are mature enough to vote for someone who would be good at being an Admin, rather than their friends. [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 15:12, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Nothing would make me happier than to believe that (well, almost nothing :)), but look at the nominees, who nominated them, and their records. There are only 2 good users nominated. The rest are... Well, come on... --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 15:20, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Unfortunaetly, some good users dont have the six months under there belt[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]] 15:25, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Which makes them not experienced enough. It's a fair rule. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 15:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, but there are some people who've been here over 6 months who hardly do anything. Just because they haven't been here that long, does not mean there not experienced |: I think thats highly unfair, i could agree with one month, or maybe two. |: I mean, look at me, i've been here since February and how many edits do i make to the main space? Normally it's just the little grammar tweak, or spelling here and there. But take certain users, not naming any names, who've been here for a few months. Some of them have made '''many''' edits that have really helped. If you ask me this system is unfair. [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 15:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:I agree --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 15:37, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::More than anything, six months show dedication and consistency - if a user has been a good and contributing editor for more than six months, they're probably here to stay. Two-monthers might grow tired and leave next week. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 15:46, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Right, but don't you think '''SIX''' months is pushing it a bit? |: That's half a year, and trust me that is a long time. I think someone who's been here for about two months would ''probably'' stay. [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 15:51, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::If you're here for four months it'd likely be good, but six months makes sure you're dedicated... though to tell the truth, I ''did'' get it after three months of being here... I dunno, Argy would know why. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:18, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Is there any way to change the 'rules' of this? I think four months would be fair, but thats just my opinion though. [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 20:21, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::We'll speak amongst ourselves to determine it... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:25, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I'm going to sound like an idiot, but what do you mean by that? [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 20:28, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I believe he meant the admins will talk about it elsewhere and decide. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 20:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh right :3 [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 20:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

== Say... ==

...We should get a section called 'Proper reasons for nomination'. I mean, people who come up and say 'I nominate RandomGuy because he's kind to new users and is a gud friend' are like, WTF? Reasons that are okay should be something like 'AnotherRandomGuy has good grammar and is actively editing Bulbapedia often. I propose that we make him an admin.' Of course, we still need the 6 month policy as any vandal can put up that act. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''03:33 14 Aug 2008'''''
:Makes sense yo me.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]] 03:37, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
::If you care to write up a few guidelines... I'll look over them. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:09, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Not acceptable:
:*No reasons that involve futuristic views. (Eg. He won't get corrupted if you promote him...)
:*No reasons that involve friends. (Eg. He's kind to new users...)
:*No reasons that involve non-Bulbapedia stuff, basically. (Eg. He makes great sprites, isn't that Bulbapedia stuff?)
:*No reasons that involve anti-other-users. (Eg. You won't promote him just because he's my friend!)
Acceptable:
:*Most edits are in the main namespace.
:*Reverts when vandal strikes (might reconsider, some users are just unlucky that the vandals come when they're asleep or something...-points at timezones-)
:*Often active (What's the use of an inactive admin?),
:I dunno. This needs improvement for sure...'''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''06:24 14 Aug 2008'''''
::Surely knowing there arent gonna get corrupted is a plus point, ok not a reason, but a plus point.
*definately agree about the friend one.
*Sprites are Bulba
*I agree with the 4th as well.

Id love to stop a vandal, but literally I never see them, also do templates count as mainspace? --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:06, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Firstly, the reason why we give 6 months is to prevent corruption. So far, all good faith users have been uncorrupted ('cept me, of course).
:::Secondly, sprites are Archives, not Bulba. I'm not going furthur in case I get another ban and...
:::Last ly, templates ain't mainspace. Duh. '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:23 14 Aug 2008'''''
::::ok then, thanks for your time. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:26, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::I disagree on a lot of those points:
*"Being kind to new users" is a good sign as dealing with other users in a patient manner is a part of the position.
*Images uploaded to the Archives should be used on Bulbapedia, so uploading a lot is generally a positive help. The custom sprites an issue in itself but they shouldn't have a negative effect on the chances of getting the position.
*Edits to templates are certainly good, though any prospective admins should probably be made aware of the consequences to the server of editing the protected templates.
*Expanding from that, edits outside of the mainspace are not inherently bad, just so long as the userspace isn't being abused. There should still be a substantial amount of edits in the mainspace, though.
::::::Overall, the reasons just need to be directed towards suitability as an admin. No logical fallacies, no random stuff, just evidence that they would be a good addition to the staff. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 10:25, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Yay for fabu-vinny, I wasnt gonna argue with Ph34r4ever, but i agreed with everything you just said. Thankyou Fabu.--[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 12:07, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
:The definition of 'kind' as used there is 'not strict'. Anyway, I'm not going to argue with an admin. Especially one which I lost an argument to...especially one that has more experience than me...'''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''13:10 14 Aug 2008'''''
::Being too scrict to new users could drive away potentially good contributors. Obviously, there's a point where the line has to be drawn but it is best to assume good faith at first. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 12:32, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

== Nomination acceptance ==

I think one of the first steps in any nomination should be to post on the user's talk page, telling them they've been nominated. Give them a chance to officially say "I accept this nomination", rather then go through the voting process without being sure if the nominee is even interested in the position. If the nominee doesn't feel they'd be good for the job, I'd say that's a pretty quick answer to the "should this user be an admin?" question. No doubt, there are plenty of good contributors here who are too busy to add more things to do on Bulbapedia... just my two cents. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 06:06, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
:I suppose so. The nominator can do so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:14, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

== You have to think of this in a different angle ==

Sure, an Admin should contribute to the Mainspace, but on a site where many users edit the User space more than they edit the Mainspace, shouldnt there be some admins that specialize in the User psace?If all the admins focus on the MAinspace, who watches the User space with the same amount of attention?{{tt|and who watches the admins?|Watchman reference.Couldnt help wording it this way}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]

:The bureaucrats and the editorial board watch the admins. As for whether or not there should be admins specifically assigned to watch the userspace, I think it's a given that we'll all do our parts to make sure users don't spend too much time editing their userpages. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 20:30, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
::But do admins realy do that?I notice more users warning other users about editing the ?User space(which is a good thing) but we really cant do anything about it[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]
:::Sure we can. We can alert the admins when a user gets out of hand. There's no point having an admin ''just'' for that - it's too much power. And I have seen ''some'' admins (mostly the newer ones) warning users about these things. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 20:40, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

== Rule about nominating yourself ==

Can someone explain why we have this rule? Plenty other sites that use MediaWiki software allow users to nominate themselves with no problems at all. [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 20:40, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
:Why? Considering nominating yourself? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 20:41, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
::How about because then every user on this wiki will be nominated? As a Pokémon wiki, we have many kids on board. While many of them are good users, not all are mature enough to only do it if they deserve it. Not to mention - you're probably not worthy of the powers if nobody else thought about you as such... --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 20:45, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Because you theres no point to it.''"I nominate myself becasue I am so awesome that I deserve it!"''Thats why[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]
::::Yes, I'm considering nominating myself, but not until I make about 2,000 more edits. And if tons of people nominate themself when they don't meet the requirement, their nomination can simply be closed. [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 21:00, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::The flaw in this system is that, even if they don't meet the standards, the ''other'' kids who have grown to like them for reasons completely unrelated to the wiki would vote for them just because they're friends. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 01:59, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::For future reference to others, this has already been established. Please read the other sections before adding.... [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 02:03, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Can you request to be a nominee, if you followed all the guidelines? [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 01:18, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
:That is virtually the same as nominating yourself, which isn't allowed. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:34, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::Oh, and by the way, just becuase you asked that question, you are pretty much out of the running for it.Sorry.Look here:http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:TTEchidna/Archive_Jul-Aug_08#admin[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]
:::Sorry, I didn't know.... [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 01:53, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

== How does it work? ==

How does the voting work? Like, is it whoever has the most ''Agrees''? Or is it something different? I've never been able to work it out D: [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 05:00, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

:If it's anything like other wikis, then the decision ultimately comes down to the B.crats, while the votes give a good picture of how everyone feels about it. For example, if you got support from a few good editors, and a bunch of disagrees from totally random people, it would still be totally possible for you to be promoted. Quality, not Quantity. Just my view of the system, however, and not to be taken as official word on how it all works. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 05:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::Ah, right. [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 06:01, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::Basically all you need is 1 good edit, a friend to nominate you and a few thousand dollars. Those new servers dont buy themselves you know. LOL.  --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 18:33, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
:::xDD [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 18:51, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Wait guys, also, when does it get decided who becomes an Admin? My friend was wondering [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 05:10, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:Who's your friend? [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 21:06, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
::IT WAS ME!--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Talk]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Contributions))]]
:::Then YOU cannot be a nominee. Same happened with me. See "Question" on this talk page... [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 22:05, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
::::He's already a nominee (he turned it down, though). And he wasn't asking to be nominated, he was asking when these things will be resolved. TTE answered the question already; one month from nomination is when the votes are tallied. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 22:10, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Oh well.Im soooooooooo dissapointed I didnt make the cut ;)--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Talk]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Contributions))]]
::::::But how about MY situation? [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 22:39, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::You asked if someone could request to be a nominee; you didn't actually ask to be a nominee, and the way you phrased your question didn't necessarily indicate that you were asking about yourself. Therefore, I'm pretty sure that you're in the clear as long as you DON'T request to be a nominee. It's probably a bad idea to take the issue any further than that, too. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:04, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

::::::::I personally don't see much harm in asking to be nominated... it'll normally be reflected in the votes how people feel about the nominee, and if the user needed to ask for the nomination, chances are there won't be a ton of support votes. (or we might happen across a qualified nominee who just so happens to not have been nominated yet.) That's pretty much the reason a lot of other sites even allow self-nomination, because normally, you can trust the other users to shoot down silly requests. As opposed to banning candidates from the process because they might have hinted at wanting the nomination... "if you want it, you can't have it" seems a little silly. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 04:07, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::I understand that. I'm afraid all I have for rebuttal is the same "everyone votes for their friends" thing that I've been saying over and over. But I still believe in that. The majority of Pokémon fans (or at least the ones on this site) seem to be in their pre-teens, and don't necessarily judge people based on things like how good a contributor or mediator they are. If one of their friends is nominated, they're quite likely to vote for him, even if he might not be the best admin around; and because of their number, it's quite possible that the nominee could win the adminship even if he's not quite qualified for it. That's why I put off voting for Mags and PGZ for so long; I wanted to be sure I could do so because I felt they were good editors, not just good friends. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 06:51, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
:(Reset indent) I think the voting system needs to leave the power in the B.crat's hands still, at least a little. If twenty random new users vote support for a bad nominee, and ten good contributors vote oppose, I don't think the nominee should win just like that. "Quality, not Quantity", so to speak; I think the vote reason should matter at least as much as the vote itself. You maintain a democratic process, but still keep a little control over it all. Of course, I've yet to see any crappy nominees, so that in and of itself may be a moot point. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 09:17, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

== Re-election ==

For the users who didn't meet the qualifications and were rejected, they got a date where they could be nominated again. So how does that work. Does another user have to elect them, or does the talk page thing come up where the current ones are? I wasn't sure about how that worked. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 11:10, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:Whole thing starts again, but brand new. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:50, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== We ==

...last minute will not be tolerated–and '''we''' will find out.
Shouldn't this be specified or something? It seems... out of place. [[User: Tc26|'''tc''']][[User talk: Tc26|'''2''']][[Special: Contributions/Tc26|'''6''']] 13:47, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:We, us, the {{bp|checkuser}}s. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:50, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== Sockpuppeting ==

As far as I know, we haven't had this problem yet (as far as this page's voting goes), but just in case, I think that maybe users should not be allowed to vote for at least a month after joining. Just an idea. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 02:28, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:Great idea! It could also help weed out any votes made by inexperienced users, such as what happened with Martonamos.--[[User:RexRacer|'''RexRacer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 03:18, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
::I knew everyone who voted for Martonimos for months...except for DigiDude, the guy who opposed him. But he "claims" that he'd been on Bulbapedia but just not as a user. So the you should use the word "user" without an "s".--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 03:42, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:::...You knew me for months?--[[Blastoise (Pokémon)|K]][[Gary's Blastoise|kl]][[Blastoise (TCG)|l]][[User:Kkllnn|nn]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| blastoise]] 21:54, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

==Nomination==

I would like to nominate HoennMaster, friendly user who likes to talk over the issue before drastic changes.

--[[User:KantoLegend|KantoLegend]] 16:07, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

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Okay, I'll change the limit to 100KB, but seriously, that's it.

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== Custom Sprites ==

Kuki said about creating sprites for the different patterned Butterfree and Vileplume. And since you said you are simply in charge here when Pie and Zhen isn't here, I guess that means you might know more. So the question is if we should make sprites for those. But since they are different patterns, much like arbok and spinda, there is no reason to make a new sprite just for a new pattern right? But Kuk's argument is that they are also different colored. So what's your view?--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 02:40, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:I'm not just in charge while they're gone. I ''am'' in charge...
:Anyway... I think it'd be best to take it forumward to see what the others think of it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:06, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
::Umm...it won't let me create a new thread. I clicked "New Thread" and it says I do not have permission. Is that what I was supposed to do, or did I do it wrong?--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 04:54, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Are you, um... registered for the forums? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:34, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
::::yes. I'll just do it on the talk page. Maybe I just don't know how to work the forums, I never found a need to use it.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 05:42, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Eh, I think it'd be better to do the forums... You sure you did it right? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:49, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Nevermind, I got it.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 18:35, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

== Mind if I happen to steal? ==

Hey TTE, would you mind if I happen to "steal" some things that you have made? Specifically I'd like to "steal" (and of course modify) your archive page that counts bytes,and your Pokémon of the Day. Might I be allowed to do this, or would you prefer I not? Sorry to bug you about this, but I like to ask before I "steal" things ^_^; - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] '''|''' 03:18, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:PotD is pretty much the only one that I don't want borrowed. As for the archives, go for it, just change the colors. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:36, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
::Ok, I won't borrow the PotD. Thank you for permission on the archives ^_^ - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] '''|''' 04:44, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Can I also borrow the KB counter? --[[user:Baby G|Baby G]] ([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]]) 14:35, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

==Sub-Pages==

How do you create sub-pages like the ones you and Kenji-Girl have? I really don't want to try and experiment with links and take the change of messing something up.

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 09:28, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

:Go to your userpage, in the URL bar add <code>/NAME</code> (Just replace NAME with the name you want for the sub-page) then edit the non-existent page. Just remember that editing user sub-pages does count to the 3 userspace edits per day limit. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] '''|''' 09:34, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

What do you mean limit? What is userspace?

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 10:06, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

There is a limit of how many times you can edit your userpage and subpages (or even, in rare circumstances, others' pages) a day. The userspace includes [[User:HoennMaster|your page]], and any of your subpages. This includes the smallest edits, from adding a period to the end of a sentence, to the largest edits, from creating a whole new page. People like {{u|TTEchidna}} don't have a limit, because dey are awesome like that. Thankfully, the limit does ''not'' include any talk pages, even your own talk pages. However, don't go overboard and make it a blog. [[User:Gligar|'''Gli''']][[User talk:Gligar|'''gar''']] 14:19, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

:Actually, it does not only include your main page and subpages, but any other page in the userspace, even if it doesn't belong to you (even though editing pages that aren't yours is not allowed.) ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:26, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

==Generation IV in [[User:TTEchidna/LOPBG|LOPBG]]==

Due to my userspace limit already being over, I have taken the liberty of completing the Generation IV chart in "List of Pokémon by game". It is complete and currently resides in the bottom of the [[Bulbapedia:Sandbox|Sandbox]]. The page is now officially complete and ready for the mainspace once you add Generation IV. Thank you. [[User:Gligar|'''Gli''']][[User talk:Gligar|'''gar''']] 14:19, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:You are adding information to a userspace page that will make it to the mainspace when it is complete, that is allowed and does not count towards your total. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:28, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:I wish I'd known that earlier. Anyway, it's finished now. [[User:Gligar|'''Gli''']][[User talk:Gligar|'''gar''']] 15:13, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
::Not quite. You've got a few listed... off. For example, in Pt, Gligar's no longer a dongler, while Magmar and Electabuzz are in the wild. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 16:14, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::You're right. I kind of assumed for some of Platinum's, since some of the Pokémon articles only say "Trade" because they haven't been updated. I'll take a look at Serebii. [[User:Gligar|'''Gli''']][[User talk:Gligar|'''gar''']] 18:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Serebii claims to have a complete location list, but I don't see one. The only way I see is manually checking all their pages. I've made a few dongle/version-exclusive edits. [[User:Gligar|'''Gli''']][[User talk:Gligar|'''gar''']] 19:27, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::From what I've seen he does, on the individual pages. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:02, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::''The only way I see is manually checking all their pages.'' Or were you implying something else? [[User:Gligar|'''Gli''']][[User talk:Gligar|'''gar''']] 22:29, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Well, that's what I meant, he doesn't have a list of all 493 with their Pt locations, but has the Pt locations in their pages. If it's what you meant originally then yes I agree. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:55, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::So is it ready for mainspace? Every other minor detail that we missed can be fixed later by other users. [[User:Gligar|'''Gli''']][[User talk:Gligar|'''gar''']] 22:58, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::I would say, very possibly so. I'd need to set things up. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:13, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::I think somebody forgot to do something... [[User:Gligar|'''Gli''']][[User talk:Gligar|'''gar''']] 22:50, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::Not forgot, just haven't gotten around to it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:00, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

== hi sir how to make a nice profile ==

[[User:Bakunawa|Bakunawa]] 14:57, 12 October 2008 (UTC)hi sir im newb and how to make a nice profile
thanks[[User:Bakunawa|Bakunawa]] 14:57, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:Uhm... wikicoding? I dunno. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 16:17, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, TTE knows nothing about it. Don't ask him. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 16:19, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I mean, it's mostly just... knowing how to make charts... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 16:20, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

== {{m|Assist}} ==

Could you somehow fix this image of [[Eusine]]'s sprite? it isn't working. <code>Image Removed</code> ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:27, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:I have no idea what's wrong with it... It's just not there. Give it a while, if you just noticed it gone, it might just be a glitch that'll correct itself. Either way, ew jpg sprite. Can we fix that? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 16:43, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
::I don't know, But I think the problem is the accented I; Images don't work when there are weird characters, which include ♀ and ♂. I doubt it has worked for the past five months since {{u|Mesenquima}} uploaded it. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:57, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::That could also be a problem; we had one with the {{type2|???}} Arceus a while ago. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:01, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

== AIM ==

I signed up for one and got a screen name ('''Politoed666''' - what else?), and tried to download AIM 6.8, but I can't figure out how to instant message. Any assistance? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 02:16, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:Um... sign on? Then just... send an IM? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:27, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

::On AIM.com? But where's the thing I click to IM someone. Like you, for instance. How would I IM you, step by step? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 00:23, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Once you've got the program installed, open it. Sign in, add someone to your buddy list, double click them to get the messaging window. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 00:37, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

::::TTE, get on AIM. I wanna try this out. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:23, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::I am. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:31, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

== Move Variations ==

Well, I was looking at the tables and I thought that we should have seperate rows for Physical and Special moves. Now, I'm not too good with tables so I had a play around and it came to this:
{| align="center" class="toccolours" cellspacing="2"
|- bgcolor="#ccccff"
! colspan="2" style="font-size:100%;" align="center" | '''[[Move variations|Variations]] on the move {{m|Blizzard}}'''
|-
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" | {{ic|Special}}
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" | {{m|Blizzard}} | {{m|Focus Blast}}
|-
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" | {{ic|Physical}}
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" | {{m|Gunk Shot}}
|}

What do you think? I mean, we could add other columns to it if needs be. At the moment, it just looks a little clumped, especially with moves with many variations (Hyper Beam, Quick Attack, Swift etc.). Just an idea... [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 22:17, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:Looks pretty nice, actually. Just change it so that it's colspan=2'd. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:19, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
::Alright, thanks. Also, does the width of the table matter? I mean, how many moves would we put in one one row before starting another? Variations like Blizzard are easy, but with Quick Attack etc., it get's harder. [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 22:52, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Shouldn't exceed about 500px. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:43, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

== {{u|TTEchidna/epnum}} ==

TTE, shouldn't this template of yours use <nowiki>{{g|anime}}</nowiki> instead of <nowiki>[[Pokémon Anime]]</nowiki> on it? Isn't using the shortlinks policy? (I asked this on the template's talk page, but I'm not sure if that page will make the "new messages" bar appear. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] '''|''' 23:50, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:Policy unless there's a reason otherwise. There's not much difference between the g template and typing it out. The LTs are mostly for stuff like moves. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:04, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

== Using Unicode minus ==

What do you think of using the Unicode minus character instead of hyphens where appropriate—for instance, in TCG resistances? Since Bulbapedia implements UTF-8, it would be a shame to not make use of it. It can be copy-pasted directly (−), or an editor can type &#8722; in the source. It seems to me that this would be similar to the acute é or em dashes. And visually, it does make a difference: compare (2 + 3 - 5) to (2 + 3 − 5). [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 04:06, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
:Hrm... well, the regular dash (-) works in mathematical calculations, while I'm unsure if that minus does. So... I dunno. It seems like going a little overboard...

{|
! weakness
! resistance
! retreat cost
|-
! {{e|Lightning}}
! {{e|Fighting}} -30
! {{e}}{{e}}
|}

{|
! weakness
! resistance
! retreat cost
|-
! {{e|Lightning}}
! {{e|Fighting}} −30
! {{e}}{{e}}
|}

:Besides... it looks like an endash (–) when smaller... The TCG cards used the exact font, so I think we oughta keep the -. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:00, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
::Okay, I can buy that. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 05:03, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

== Sorry ==

Remember yesterday on Aim? Well, while we were talking, I lost my internet AND phone connection. The company had technical difficulties, for no one was picking up the calls when my dad called them. So I didn't just ditch you for no reason...yeah.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 22:41, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
:That's internet service for ya. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:12, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

==History Heading==

On main pages for main characters pokémon there was a heading like the above saying history:
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=May%27s_Wartortle&diff=prev&oldid=512319

However Jmath is removing these:
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=May%27s_Wartortle&diff=next&oldid=512319

Is this okay, or should we put them back?

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 02:13, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
:Sometimes they need them, sometimes they don't. Jmath and anyone else should make sure to know this and to determine it based on the rest of the page. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:14, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
::As in, they need 'em if the first section is too long. In instances like May's Wartortle, it damn well is! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:18, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

== Hey TTE ==

Did you see the e-mail I sent you? --[[user:Baby G|Baby G]] ([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]]) 02:23, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
:Not yet. I don't check it too often... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:24, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

== Tuber ==

I was wondering for a while with an issue over the male tuber. Here's what I wrote:
Is there a male tuber for FR/LG? If not, we can add to trivia that though it doesn't appear for FR/LG, it does appear in Sis and Bro...

Anyway, do you know? If not, we can also edit the sprite of Sis and Bro and FR/LG to say that this is the male Tuber. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:06, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
:I dunno, actually, if there's a male tuber programmed into FRLG. Ask on the forums. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:10, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
::Ok, but does it exist? That's what I'm wondering....also, why in [[Mystery Dungeon]] do Staryu/mie blink? I don't get that... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:15, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
:::That's what I meant. The people on the forums might know... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:35, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

==Original Series and Advanced Generation Episode Lists==

So I just saw the AG episode list expanded to split the two Deoxys episodes, but I believe you mentioned something about changing the Original Series episode list after Episode 38? What changes? I only say the two Christmas episodes added, but are there any number changes?

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 03:39, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
:No, we're not changing the numbers. I decided, HHJ and SWO stay as specials, but are placed in canon order on the list. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:42, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok, one last question. I was putting the favorite episode tags onto my profile, and the picture for [[DP038]] won't work. I copied and pasted the title, and it won't work. It is the only pci I'm having problems with.

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 04:14, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
:Someone uploaded it with exclamation points, which screw up for some. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:19, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

It's doing that for [[DP076]] as well.

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 04:27, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
:Exclamation points. Again. Sigh. Can you help a guy out by making a list of files with !'s and ?'s in them? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:29, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

I think I found them all:

AG049 on the Advanced Genration list, although the [[AG049]] page doesn't even use that pic.
[[AG101 (unaired)]]
[[AG110]]
[[AG117]]
I don't know if you want this, but the picutres for [[AG128]] and [[AG129]] are from the correct episode, but the name of the episodes are switched around.
[[AG130]]
[[AG132]]
[[AG134]]
[[AG149]]
[[AG167]]
[[AG189]]

[[DP004]]
[[DP005]]
[[DP009]]
[[DP013]]
[[DP039]]
[[DP041]]
[[DP067]]
[[DP069]]

[[EP183]]
[[EP212]]
[[EP214]]
[[EP215]]
[[EP219]]
[[EP220]]
[[EP221]]
[[EP223]]
[[EP225]]
[[EP226]]
[[EP228]]
[[EP229]]
[[EP230]]
[[EP231]]
[[EP235]]
[[EP237]]
[[EP239]]
[[EP240]]
[[EP244]]
[[EP248]]
[[EP249]]
[[EP250]]
[[EP252]]
[[EP256]]
[[EP258]]
[[EP261]]
[[EP262]]
[[EP265]]
[[EP266]]
[[EP267]]
[[EP268]]
[[EP270]]
[[EP271]]
[[EP273]]
- ''unsigned comment from [[User:HoennMaster|HoennMaster]] ([[User talk:HoennMaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/HoennMaster|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:Ouch. Uhm... wanna help by saving them and reuploading them as their epicode, then marking the duplicate for deletion? There's no way to move images, so we gotta just delete them. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:15, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't know know how to save and upload them...

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 05:25, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
:Click on the image on its page, then just save it from the browser. Then go to Archives and upload it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:28, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
::Another reason to not to use [[Bulbapedia:Troublesome users#Aywanajp|Aywanajp]]'s images... You might find more if you search through her sockpuppets. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 00:37, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok so I did the DP episodes, but It said I was creating duplicates of the pictures, is that ok? I couldn't see another way to do it.

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 02:27, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
:We'll take care of the duplicates later. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:45, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Done! Or At Least I Think So.

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 05:12, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

== Just a question ==

Should a Dynamic Punch Replace a Sky Uppercut, Headbutt, or Mach Punch?~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Ποκεμανιακα0β]] 02:45, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
:Or should it not be learned compared to the other attacks?~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Ποκεμανιακα0β]] 02:47, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
::Depends, is accuracy, power, or effect percentage important? Do you plan on having a Wide Lens on the Pokémon? Is it a Machamp with No Guard? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:48, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I have Emerald, I have a Breloom, I want damage dealing attacks, I dont want healing attacks...~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Ποκεμανιακα0β]] 02:50, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Magnedeth says no so no~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Ποκεμανιακα0β]] 02:59, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Brel makes a good seedsubber, and also a sweet SD Mach Puncher. If you really want DynamicPunch, Mind Reader comes free with it. But I won't recommend it. The best moveset I can think of is Toxic Orb, Swords Dance, Mach Punch, Spore, Seed Bomb. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 03:27, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Hmm.. Well i'm just playing emerald in preparation for Platinum~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Ποκεμανιακα0β]] 03:29, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

== Suggestion ==

You know how most wikis (including ours) often have a "This Week's Featured Article" thing? How about we do a "This Month's Featured Stub" to encorage the expansion of undederveloped arcticles? --[[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 05:44, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
:Good plan, but I dunno how we'd pick it... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:46, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
:: Just make it random, I guess --[[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 05:49, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Only thing is, a featured stub probably wouldn't be a stub for the whole month. It sounds like a really fun way to all work on stubs though, and with enough attention, it could go pretty fast... random sounds pretty good, I wonder if there's a way to system-generate a random list of only stub articles? Sort of like [[Special:Random]]. As stubs get filled out, they lose stub status, become full articles, and the next random stub jumps to the front page. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 08:36, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Me like. This is a good idea. (By the way, you noticed how MIAB said that ''most wikis (including ours) often have a "This Week's Featured Article" thing''...? Well, it's almost two months since [[Brock]]... We keep contradicting our own words...) --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''zz''']] 09:38, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Maybe not do it "of the month" but having an article that needs work on the front page until it is looking shiny would be a good way to encourage the wiki magic. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:59, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Who wants to randomly decide one, or should I? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:20, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::If you pick, we should consolidate first. I have made some stubs that I am working on getting information for, and I would like only people who know what they are doing touching the article. I don't want to have to constantly fix something that would have not been a problem if it wasn't the "featured" one. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 21:28, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::May I suggest {{g|Live!}}? It's a shame this is still a stub... If you want something more mainstream to begin with, one of the {{cat|location stubs}} would probably be a good choice. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''zz''']] 14:14, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

== <code>Bulbapedia:</code> Shortcuts ==

Hey TTE, do you think we should have shortcuts for {{bp|Nominations for administratorship}} & {{bp|Featured article candidates}}? I have noticed many other other <code>Bulbapedia:</code> namespace areas do have shortcuts, such as the {{bp|Manual of style}} having MOS and BP:MOS. I'm more than willing to make the redirects if you feel they would be useful. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] '''|''' 06:49, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
:Go for it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:50, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

== {{u|Badcreditcarloan}} ==

Looks like we have a spamvertisor on our hands. Just look what it did to Aoi! [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Aoi&oldid=515047] - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] '''|''' 08:44, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

:Blocked. I also removed the revision from the page's history, just so the links aren't still buried in there. (not sure if my method is the best way to get rid of such edits, however.) --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 09:51, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
::I figured it would do that... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:51, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

:::On the subject; it mentions in the blocking policy that "contaminated history should also be deleted if possible". Is there a "normal" way to delete the history? (My method is to delete the page, then restore all but the edits in question.) --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 01:47, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
::::It's the only way I know how to. Tedious for a page with a bazillion edits... but we just hope they don't hit those. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:24, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Check-off the top of the list, scroll to the bottom, and hold Shift while clicking the bottom of the list. That'll select everything. Then you just de-select the problem edits.
:::::I'm more bothered by having to delete and un-delete whole pages just to do it, but I don't see much else as far as options. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 05:55, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

== Jmath's admin nomination ==

Jmath was nominated for adminship on September 17th, and today's October 17th. So, it is time for the EB to make a decision. Just reminding you. --[[user:Baby G|Baby G]] ([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]]) 14:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

== Sprites and stuff.. ==

With things like Event Pokémon lists, and other list prior to Generation IV.. Which sprite is more preferable?
* The latest
* The sprite of that generation
I'm thinking the latter, due to it representing that generation. Just wanting a second opinion on this one, since it isn't mentioned in the manual of style... [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 15:07, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
:Latest please. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:51, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

== Sorry for making your page closer to archiving... ==

But I was wondering if this table would work for the PMD locations:
{| {{Bluetable|background: white}}
|-style="background: #ccf;"
!Floor
!colspan="4"|Pokémon
|-
|B1F
|rowspan="4"|<center>{{ms|090}} {{p|Shellder}}</center>
|rowspan="4"|<center>{{ms|140}} {{p|Kabuto}}</center>
|rowspan="4"|<center>{{ms|422E}} {{p|Shellos}}</center>
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I mean, when people check out PMD locations...they want to know which Pokemon are on each floor, right? '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 05:11, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
:Looks fine to me. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:14, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

::I don't know...That format could cause gaps when it comes to floors that both introduce new Pokémon and carry over ones from a previous floor. Take [[Thunderwave Cave]] for example. In that format, there'd be a gap on floors 1 and 2 above Voltorb (who appears only on floors 3 through 5), while Rattata/Nidoran♀/Poochyena sits comfortably in the first three floors over Elekid/Plusle/Minun on the final two. The gaps and staggering would only get worse the deeper one gets into the game. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:48, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
::That's what I've been trying to fix over at [[Bulbapedia:Sandbox]]. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 00:22, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Is there always the same amout of species per floor? I'd suggest something like the template on {{rt|214}}... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:24, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::::The maximum is 14, but in somedungeons, they have a random mix. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 00:51, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Hmmm... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:58, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== Could you change my user name? ==

I'd like you to change my user name to "Chocolate", and here's why:

My current user name is misleading. I mean, the word "baby". A baby is a very young person, and it can also be used to describe a hot girl. I'm neither. And the "G", well, it's supposed to stand for "gangsta", so my name means either "young gangsta" or "female gangsta", which I'm not any of those.

A name like "Chocolate" is much better IMO. No, I'm not made outta chocolate, but I just like that name WAY better.

So, could you please change it? --[[user:Baby G|Baby G]] ([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]]) 20:20, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
:Okay... if you insist. No undoing it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:28, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
::Kinda random, but, if you're an admin, can you change your own name?--[[User:RexRacer|'''RexRacer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 01:01, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Not if you're an admin. You have to be a bureaucrat, since bureaucrats are admins who can also change user names and give and take away user rights. --[[user:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[user talk:Chocolate|talk to me]]) 01:05, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::::I'd imagine technically you can, being an admin... but it'd be difficult. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:09, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== Redirects ==

I thought I should ask before trying anything. Do you think that we should have redirects to the manga and anime? Like instead of someone needing to type in 'DP001', they could type in 'Following a Maidens Voyage!' and get to the same page. The same applies w/ the manga. I think it would help users that dont know the exact episode number, but I dunno. What do you think?--[[User:RexRacer|'''RexRacer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 01:16, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:Ideally, redirects should be made as soon as we get the dub title... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:21, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

==Quick Questions==

Sorry to bother you again, but I have two questions. First, is there an easy way to find out what pages we have created? Also, how do you add the show/hide tags to my user tags list?

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 06:03, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:Easy way? Eh, not really. Find the bold, capital N's on your contribs page. That's it.
:And just look at my page's coding to find that one out. Just don't screw with it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:11, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok, so I got them on my user tag bar...but now my content list is in the user tag box as well. If you don't know how to fix that, do you know someone who does? Sorry for these questions, this si the first time I've delath with these kinds of things.

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 06:40, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:Uhm... you should close the invisible table you made. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:49, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Problem is, how do I know what to take out to do that? Sorry, I'm very....well dumb when it comes to this.

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 06:53, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== Oh hai ==

Just a little reminder: go to [[User:TTEchidna/PartyUpdate]] to tell me which of those new ones you like... or even the old one if you so prefer. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:51, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:Can I stay undecided? It seems 2 x 3" is winning anyway. By the way, "hai" means "yes" in Japanese. (I'm probably setting myself up for a sarcastic comment or reprimand... *hides in box*) [[User:Rpp|Rpp]] 15:19, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::Hai. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 16:26, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== Pic on EP099 ==

I came across this user named Jmath who is constantly changing my contributions to [[EP099]] based on what he thinks is true, and he thinks that the pic of a deleted scene from that particular episode i uploaded on that page is "unnecessary" and an "extra pic" by his standards. Bulbapedia is a website created by group effort, right? Why can't I put my correct contributions without anyone else like him interfering? --[[User:Hmdwgf|Hmdwgf]]
15:34, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:Get a better quality pic for the page and then keep it. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 19:39, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::Either way, edit warring isn't a good thing to do. I will agree that the picture needs some better quality (hey, we ''do'' have a Japanese wiki, why not ask if anyone there has the DVD that includes that episode? Tavi can do it...) but constantly reverting it, both of you, is a damned bad idea. Jmath, you should know this, since you were previously blocked for it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:55, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

==Route Pictures==

How do I scan pictures of the different routes from guidebooks and upload them to Bulbapedia, but have them look perfect like the ones already here on the site?

--[[User:KantoLegend|KantoLegend]] 21:06, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 7

2008-10-07T04:04:01Z

KantoLegend:

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== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]

== So featured articles... ==

Well, our current one's been up for more than a week, so I'm wondering...

#Ought we get a new one (aka, oh... Ash?) out there?
#Should we have some sort of regular schedule to the featuring?
#Will you guys ''ever'' nominate and vote on them quickly enough to feature them weekly? Monthly? Bi-monthly? How often?
#And if not... well, when should we go back to the normal MftE? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:51, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

:I think if it's simple enough to nominate articles, then we could see more use from this. I had to dig a bit through the links to find the other nominations... would a simple "Nominate an article" link next to the "read more" and "more featured articles" links be a good idea, perhaps? We could have an article with not only a list of nominations, but some simple instructions for how to nominate. Make it more accessible. We've got plenty of articles to nominate, not enough people looking for them.
:At this rate, a once-a-month nomination might work out nicely. With more activity, I'd say nominating faster then that would be nice. I personally think having featured articles is a fun thing, MftE makes for a good news feed, but that's about it. Featured articles give the front page more... appeal. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 08:35, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

::I completely agree. Monthly featuring would work great, and it makes the main page look much better. And if on one of the months we don't have a new one, we can use [[Poké Ball]] or [[Legendary Pokémon]], since they never made it to the main page, right? And there are already many good nominees. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 08:57, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
:::So we choose the next on the 21st? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:44, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
::::We can choose the next one whenever, I'd say. Then start up a cycle starting there. It's not a big deal if Brock gets featured for a little longer or shorter then the other featured articles we'll inevitably have. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 06:08, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Or, either just wait until one comes again, and base a cycle on that time, or leave it up for a month, then take it down, and post a new one whenever a new one comes. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 18:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::So, ummm... It's been a month. New article, anyone?...? --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''zz''']] 19:38, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Hopefully the admins will get around to it when the buzz about Platinum dies down. Granted, in a perfect world there would be at least a couple assigned to all of the normal admin tasks, but ah well. --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|Let's Go Mets]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|Stats]] 22:44, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

==Move updating==
We shouldn't count Struggle, Super Glitch, Secret Power (it doesn't need the template) and Vacuum-Cut as moves, so should we subtract 4 from that? However, we SHOULD count Wide Slash as a move, because in MD it's a TM. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] 16:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
:There are 467 moves minus Super Glitch, Vacuum-Cut, and Wide Slash. I went by the in-game DP number. Secret Power and Struggle... well, yeah. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:00, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

==The ads...==

I don't like the way they work. The ads-well, just look at them! They make this site seem less trustable, and especially since it's like "REGISTER OR BE FORCED TO LOOK AT WEIRD ADS!!!!" I like that I don't have to look at them, now I'm a member, but I don't think that this site should be sponsored by cleavage revelations. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]) 23:14, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, I was looking at my own talk without being logged on, and I had to keep above the ad at the bottom so my mom wouldn't see it. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 01:37, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
::You can report those sorts of ads on the forums... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:52, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

== Featuring ==

Why has the featured article been about Brock all the time? - [[User:FireHazard|Hazardous FIRE!]] 05:51, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:Because it never changed; this is the first one. We're not going to be changing them every day like Wikipedia is...I think the consensus is change it every month?--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:53, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
::The discussion's a few sections up on this page, and yep, seems to be about once-a-month. We don't really have a need to feature an article every day, besides, we'd run out of articles too quick if we did that. And featuring for a longer time gives the articles more "airtime". --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 16:02, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

== RRRRGH!!! ==

Those new sprite tables are all wrong! Every time you click "show", the evolution chart sticks itself smack in the middle of it! NOT GOOD! I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 01:38, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
:Works perfectly fine for me. Mind giving a link to a page it doesn't work on, and listing what browser you use? Different browsers handle some codes differently, and it would be in our best interest to make sure Bulbapedia works on most of them. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 06:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::Me as well. I know you've got an affinity for glitches, but IE... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Me too, I've noticed some pages work while some don't--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 07:18, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::::It works fine for me, but somebody else is having a problem. {{u|23-03-33}} made a post [[Talk:Bulbasaur (Pokémon)#Problem|here]], along with a screencap what exactly it's doing. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:26, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

== Grammar... ==

Umm...it's in the "Did You Know" is supposed to be its...I'm not sure how to edit that section, but in the future, can people check the grammar just in case? [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 12:44, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

== Serebii ==

Serebii.net has like bucket-fulls of new info about the rotom formes and other stuff, shouldnt this be added to the main page? --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 20:09, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

== Platinum is out? ==

I thought that it was coming out on the 13th. But a bunch of videos are appearing on Youtube right now. Just look at them all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4kPiOdfY7Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGVCgkQt6W0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL0Oz7HBE70

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
--'''''Posted by''''' [[User:Deadlymethane|'''''Deadly''''']][[User talk:Deadlymethane|'''''methane''''']] '''at''' 00:41, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, Apparently people are saying that internet celebs get it first to review it, but I really dont know what to believe any more, but in any case, some people out there have it now as I type this. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 00:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
:It's just a leaked ROM. This happened back when DP came out in English too, remember?--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
::How is that possible? You can clearly see that the videos are from DSs. [[user:Baby G|Baby G]] ([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]]) 02:35, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:::I just got ricl rolled by the last video XD--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Talk]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Contributions))]]
:It is either a leaked ROM, or one of the copys that some shops sold early. -Rabla 22:26, 13 September 2008

== Pokemon Platinum Sprites ==

I found where all (almost) of the Pokemon Platinum sprites are.
They are here: http://sfc.pokemon-inside.net/platinum.php [[User:Evil Sonic|[b]Evil Sonic....[/b]]] 02:29, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:Some of them look fake to me. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::Yea like Chancey and Blissey--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 02:48, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:::No, those are them all right. Zhen sent me them and they are exactly those (minus the glitchy ones, which someone screwed up). '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:06, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Roselia's face looks weird. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:09, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::If I have nightmares tonight, I know who to blame. What did they do to Raichu! they ruined my favorite Pokemon! NOOOOOOOO! --'''[[User:Mooites|Mooites]]''' [[User talk:Mooites|Talk to me, baby!]] 23:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::Bring back {{v2|Crystal}}.
::::::As long as we're talking about sprites, I'm still not sure about the files we should be uploading. Are we going to animate everything, nothing, Platinum only, or what? --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:48, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

== My Pokemon Ranch and Platinum ==

It's been revealed on the Pokemon Ranch Japanese site that a Pokemon Platinum compatibility update will be available by the end of the year. Those that have the game already will be able to download the update for free when it's available.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 03:20, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:Thank goodness. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::Yup know i don't have to buy Wii Points.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 03:41, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

== IMPORTANT s' v s's posessive update ==

Go here [http://www.celebrity-babies.com/2008/09/marcia-cross--3.html]--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

:That's a celebrity blog. Blogs are prone to grammar errors, just as much as a wiki is. This blog can't be used as evidence in this debate. If you thought a celebrity blog could get us off our stance of keeping them at "James's", you're dead wrong.

:The articles stay at the names they currently have. If we've rejected certain schoolbooks, there's no way we'd fall prey to a blog. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:13, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

::I thought this issue was already discussed. Besides, if we did change, do you realize how much of a massive undertaking that would be? We not only would have to alter all articles belonging to James, we'd have to fix up some templates (like {{template|op}}) and go through every article trying to determine if it's correct. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 15:22, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Excellent point. And in my opinion it's such a minute detail to have such a debate over it. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 21:43, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

::::Look, we know that s' is considered the proper. The problem is that it would mess up all the templates we have. Such as <nowiki>{{TP|James|Mime Jr.}}</nowiki>. The template won't work correctly if it's James' Mime Jr. instead. So will you stop bringing this up already? It's impossible to have it this way. We are not doing it to piss users off. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:49, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Actually, no, the s' would be wrong. You put the apostrophe after the s only if it's a plural noun. If James was the plural form of Jame, then it would be appropriate, but since he's one guy, it's James's. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 22:05, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::Everyone has disagreements on pluralizing singulars ending with "S". The only agreement seems to be Jesus and Moses use "s' " for whatever reason.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:08, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Cross was s'--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:The s' is not the proper way, no more than not beginning a sentence with and. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:21, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::Kuki, some random blog using "s' " doesn't make it correct. Go bring us a document on the proper use of English to support your argument.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:28, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Technically sayin James' and James's means the same thing [[User:Dion24|Dion24]] 23:38, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:...that's not the point.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 23:45, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

== Problem with Platinum-move-standardizing ==

Big problem: Say someone standardizes half of the learnsets in a move and forgets about it. It is put under Platinum standard and no one will know the other half is done. What do we do, manually check every move article? [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 21:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:It's up to the person editing to remember to complete it later. If they don't, we'll find it eventually, just like we do all mistakes in the articles, and can take care of it then. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 21:49, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::A surefire way to find articles with half-converted learnsets is to [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Learnset section box style|use this special page]]. The long-since deleted template that the page is checking for is embedded in old code from the old format, so any article that shows up on that special page has unconverted learnset sections. (I've already gone through and removed the aforementioned old code from all of the pages that have been fully converted.) --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|Let's Go Mets]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|Stats]] 22:28, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

== Featured Article ==

I'm surprised this Wiki doesn't have a featured article. Shouldn't there be one? --[[User:Xknight 511|☆X-Knight☆]][[User talk:Xknight 511|511♂]] 05:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
:There was a few days ago. Now there isn't. There will be again, as soon as the admins get around to it. Once the rush of edits with the Platinum release wears down, I'd guess. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 06:26, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I see. Thank you for teh info. --[[User:Xknight 511|☆X-Knight☆]][[User talk:Xknight 511|511♂]] 06:31, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

==Can't create new page...==

I want to create a page for Rui Quintas and Peter Michael, our (Portugal) two James, but the way I use to create pages don't work... I have two ways: one is searching for the page, and then click on the button that says to begin that certain page. Another way I use is when the name of the page I want to create is red in another page, so I click on it and then I create the page...
However, this time, I can't create the page. Even if I put [[]] around their names, it redirects to the list of international voice actors. See for yourselves - [[Rui Quintas]]. And the same thing if I search.
Is there any other way to create pages? Or can you please resolve this little unwanted redirect, please?[[User:Portuguese Old Man|Portuguese Old Man]] 18:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
:Just go to the top of the voice actors' page and you will see the blue link. Click on it and edit it. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 19:00, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
::It was already decided that these people are not notable enough for their own pages. That is why they are redirects. Not even all f the English voice actors are notable enough, so why shouldn't the international voice actors be the same? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:06, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Ok, thanks^^[[User:Portuguese Old Man|Portuguese Old Man]] 19:14, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

== Userspace? ==

I did some searching, but I can't find anything on it. That said:

Is there a policy outlining what can and can't be done with the userspace? Seems that I can't redirect it to my talk page, how about using it as a reminder list for myself or just blanking the damn thing? -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|BCJ]] 04:44, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:Blanking it ought to be OK (it's your page, after all). You can also slap a {{template|delete}} tag on there and let an admin get rid of it altogether. I'd recommend {{bp|signature policy|customizing your signature}} in such a case so it links to your user talk page. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 04:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::Works for me, thanks. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|BCJ]] 05:03, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:::just want to throw in that i DON'T suggest deleting user pages, as it gives users the dreaded "red label" (user pages not written) and i have a tendency to scan those person's edits. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 05:08, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::::What? Really? Why? I mean, plenty of people around here just don't have userpages. [[User:Urutapu|One of our sysops]], for example. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 07:34, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Personally, I don't think it's a problem to redirect to your own user talk page from your user page; it was just one time (that I know of) that the situation popped up, and the only reason anyone could think ''not'' to do it was because "nobody else does that". It's fairly normal on most other wikis, if someone doesn't actually have - or want - a userpage, but doesn't like a red link. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 15:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::That's what I was thinking, but someone reverted my redirect saying that 'it should be like that'. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|BCJ]]''([[User talk:Bug Catcher Jam|talk]])'' 21:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::It's something that has never been cleared up; there's no current rule about it yet, so it may or may not be reverted depending on who sees it. I think perhaps it's time we made a simple userpage policy; we could fit just common-sense things on it (don't edit it too much, don't insult people, etc), and at least have something to point to when we do need to edit people's userpages. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 19:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::::And if you don't want the "dreaded red link," as you put it, just change your sig to be a different color (if you don't know and can't find color codes, see [[User talk:Theininen|my talk]] for a couple of links and sigs for the setup), or simply put a generic greeting or contact info (i.e. e-mail, AIM, etc.) and it will be normal blue. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 02:06, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

==Categories==

On the bottom of episode pages there are categories for episodes, how do we create one? I looked and couldn't find out how.

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 21:56, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:<nowiki>[[Category:(whatever)]]</nowiki> at the bottom with the others. Then just make the category. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

== # of moves remaining ==

It's actually 36 + one userpage, to be exact. This is inaccurate because moves outside the DPPt 467 have been updated as well, such as Shadow moves or glitch moves. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 00:44, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:They've been counted. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:30, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, it says 467, which only includes the DPPt ones on [[List of moves]]. Even then, [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Learnset section box style|this page]] would like to have a word with you. Various unstarted and unfinished ones on here. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 20:11, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Woo, we're almost there. 2 almost-finished moves and 2 unstarted moves. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] ''I am not removing this lengthy addition to my signature until all moves have been updated to Platinum standard.'' 15:14, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

:how come it says minus 3 now?
:[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 16:23, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

::Because if you put one of the templates used to update it automatically categorizes it, which affects the countdown. In truth, there's really only [[Mud-Slap (move)|one move left]]. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] ''I am not removing this lengthy addition to my signature until all moves have been updated to Platinum standard.'' 16:59, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Platinum ''complete''! [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 18:16, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

::::Sweet. The "Message from the Editor" section of the Main Page should be updated to reflect this. --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|Let's Go Mets]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|Stats]] 07:11, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

== Other pictures/Adds? ==

Subject A.) Okay, I was thinking, should we get pictures of 3D appearances and Ranch (normal and Shiny)?

Subject B.) Alright, when I'm on my Wii, I find adds, and some of them are '''absolutely offensive.''' I get some saying "how dumb are you? take our test to find out!" We absolutely need to remove these. All adds.[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 19:40, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
:Nuh uh. It's the other way around: Unless you have some other way to pay for the server costs, the ads have to stay. You can report offensive ads on the forums but I don't think dumbness tests qualify for that. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:43, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
But still... some are a bit offensive.[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 23:37, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

:And like Fabu-Vinny mentioned, you can report those on the forums; there's a thread for just that purpose. Particularly offensive ads can be blacklisted, so they won't show up again. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 00:50, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
::you could also just sign in, and they all go away. can you sign in on a Wii? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:18, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I've signed into things like Youtube on my Wii, so I think you can sign onto bulbapedia on it. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 13:32, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
I probably could, but on Mariowiki, which has the same set-up, makes it extremespeedly slow.[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 00:12, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

==User Profile Things==

On user profile pages a lot of people have those icons that say like "this user plays this game" "this user's favorite pokemon is" and all sorts of things. Where do we get these!?

--[[User:KantoLegend|KantoLegend]] 04:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 7

2008-10-07T04:03:13Z

KantoLegend:

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== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]

== So featured articles... ==

Well, our current one's been up for more than a week, so I'm wondering...

#Ought we get a new one (aka, oh... Ash?) out there?
#Should we have some sort of regular schedule to the featuring?
#Will you guys ''ever'' nominate and vote on them quickly enough to feature them weekly? Monthly? Bi-monthly? How often?
#And if not... well, when should we go back to the normal MftE? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:51, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

:I think if it's simple enough to nominate articles, then we could see more use from this. I had to dig a bit through the links to find the other nominations... would a simple "Nominate an article" link next to the "read more" and "more featured articles" links be a good idea, perhaps? We could have an article with not only a list of nominations, but some simple instructions for how to nominate. Make it more accessible. We've got plenty of articles to nominate, not enough people looking for them.
:At this rate, a once-a-month nomination might work out nicely. With more activity, I'd say nominating faster then that would be nice. I personally think having featured articles is a fun thing, MftE makes for a good news feed, but that's about it. Featured articles give the front page more... appeal. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 08:35, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

::I completely agree. Monthly featuring would work great, and it makes the main page look much better. And if on one of the months we don't have a new one, we can use [[Poké Ball]] or [[Legendary Pokémon]], since they never made it to the main page, right? And there are already many good nominees. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 08:57, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
:::So we choose the next on the 21st? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:44, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
::::We can choose the next one whenever, I'd say. Then start up a cycle starting there. It's not a big deal if Brock gets featured for a little longer or shorter then the other featured articles we'll inevitably have. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 06:08, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Or, either just wait until one comes again, and base a cycle on that time, or leave it up for a month, then take it down, and post a new one whenever a new one comes. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 18:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::So, ummm... It's been a month. New article, anyone?...? --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''zz''']] 19:38, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Hopefully the admins will get around to it when the buzz about Platinum dies down. Granted, in a perfect world there would be at least a couple assigned to all of the normal admin tasks, but ah well. --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|Let's Go Mets]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|Stats]] 22:44, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

==Move updating==
We shouldn't count Struggle, Super Glitch, Secret Power (it doesn't need the template) and Vacuum-Cut as moves, so should we subtract 4 from that? However, we SHOULD count Wide Slash as a move, because in MD it's a TM. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] 16:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
:There are 467 moves minus Super Glitch, Vacuum-Cut, and Wide Slash. I went by the in-game DP number. Secret Power and Struggle... well, yeah. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:00, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

==The ads...==

I don't like the way they work. The ads-well, just look at them! They make this site seem less trustable, and especially since it's like "REGISTER OR BE FORCED TO LOOK AT WEIRD ADS!!!!" I like that I don't have to look at them, now I'm a member, but I don't think that this site should be sponsored by cleavage revelations. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]) 23:14, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, I was looking at my own talk without being logged on, and I had to keep above the ad at the bottom so my mom wouldn't see it. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 01:37, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
::You can report those sorts of ads on the forums... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:52, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

== Featuring ==

Why has the featured article been about Brock all the time? - [[User:FireHazard|Hazardous FIRE!]] 05:51, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:Because it never changed; this is the first one. We're not going to be changing them every day like Wikipedia is...I think the consensus is change it every month?--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:53, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
::The discussion's a few sections up on this page, and yep, seems to be about once-a-month. We don't really have a need to feature an article every day, besides, we'd run out of articles too quick if we did that. And featuring for a longer time gives the articles more "airtime". --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 16:02, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

== RRRRGH!!! ==

Those new sprite tables are all wrong! Every time you click "show", the evolution chart sticks itself smack in the middle of it! NOT GOOD! I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 01:38, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
:Works perfectly fine for me. Mind giving a link to a page it doesn't work on, and listing what browser you use? Different browsers handle some codes differently, and it would be in our best interest to make sure Bulbapedia works on most of them. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 06:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::Me as well. I know you've got an affinity for glitches, but IE... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Me too, I've noticed some pages work while some don't--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 07:18, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::::It works fine for me, but somebody else is having a problem. {{u|23-03-33}} made a post [[Talk:Bulbasaur (Pokémon)#Problem|here]], along with a screencap what exactly it's doing. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:26, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

== Grammar... ==

Umm...it's in the "Did You Know" is supposed to be its...I'm not sure how to edit that section, but in the future, can people check the grammar just in case? [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 12:44, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

== Serebii ==

Serebii.net has like bucket-fulls of new info about the rotom formes and other stuff, shouldnt this be added to the main page? --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 20:09, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

== Platinum is out? ==

I thought that it was coming out on the 13th. But a bunch of videos are appearing on Youtube right now. Just look at them all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4kPiOdfY7Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGVCgkQt6W0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL0Oz7HBE70

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
--'''''Posted by''''' [[User:Deadlymethane|'''''Deadly''''']][[User talk:Deadlymethane|'''''methane''''']] '''at''' 00:41, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, Apparently people are saying that internet celebs get it first to review it, but I really dont know what to believe any more, but in any case, some people out there have it now as I type this. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 00:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
:It's just a leaked ROM. This happened back when DP came out in English too, remember?--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
::How is that possible? You can clearly see that the videos are from DSs. [[user:Baby G|Baby G]] ([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]]) 02:35, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:::I just got ricl rolled by the last video XD--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Talk]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Contributions))]]
:It is either a leaked ROM, or one of the copys that some shops sold early. -Rabla 22:26, 13 September 2008

== Pokemon Platinum Sprites ==

I found where all (almost) of the Pokemon Platinum sprites are.
They are here: http://sfc.pokemon-inside.net/platinum.php [[User:Evil Sonic|[b]Evil Sonic....[/b]]] 02:29, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:Some of them look fake to me. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::Yea like Chancey and Blissey--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 02:48, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:::No, those are them all right. Zhen sent me them and they are exactly those (minus the glitchy ones, which someone screwed up). '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:06, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Roselia's face looks weird. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:09, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::If I have nightmares tonight, I know who to blame. What did they do to Raichu! they ruined my favorite Pokemon! NOOOOOOOO! --'''[[User:Mooites|Mooites]]''' [[User talk:Mooites|Talk to me, baby!]] 23:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::Bring back {{v2|Crystal}}.
::::::As long as we're talking about sprites, I'm still not sure about the files we should be uploading. Are we going to animate everything, nothing, Platinum only, or what? --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:48, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

== My Pokemon Ranch and Platinum ==

It's been revealed on the Pokemon Ranch Japanese site that a Pokemon Platinum compatibility update will be available by the end of the year. Those that have the game already will be able to download the update for free when it's available.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 03:20, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:Thank goodness. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::Yup know i don't have to buy Wii Points.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 03:41, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

== IMPORTANT s' v s's posessive update ==

Go here [http://www.celebrity-babies.com/2008/09/marcia-cross--3.html]--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

:That's a celebrity blog. Blogs are prone to grammar errors, just as much as a wiki is. This blog can't be used as evidence in this debate. If you thought a celebrity blog could get us off our stance of keeping them at "James's", you're dead wrong.

:The articles stay at the names they currently have. If we've rejected certain schoolbooks, there's no way we'd fall prey to a blog. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:13, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

::I thought this issue was already discussed. Besides, if we did change, do you realize how much of a massive undertaking that would be? We not only would have to alter all articles belonging to James, we'd have to fix up some templates (like {{template|op}}) and go through every article trying to determine if it's correct. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 15:22, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Excellent point. And in my opinion it's such a minute detail to have such a debate over it. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 21:43, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

::::Look, we know that s' is considered the proper. The problem is that it would mess up all the templates we have. Such as <nowiki>{{TP|James|Mime Jr.}}</nowiki>. The template won't work correctly if it's James' Mime Jr. instead. So will you stop bringing this up already? It's impossible to have it this way. We are not doing it to piss users off. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:49, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Actually, no, the s' would be wrong. You put the apostrophe after the s only if it's a plural noun. If James was the plural form of Jame, then it would be appropriate, but since he's one guy, it's James's. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 22:05, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::Everyone has disagreements on pluralizing singulars ending with "S". The only agreement seems to be Jesus and Moses use "s' " for whatever reason.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:08, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Cross was s'--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:The s' is not the proper way, no more than not beginning a sentence with and. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:21, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::Kuki, some random blog using "s' " doesn't make it correct. Go bring us a document on the proper use of English to support your argument.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:28, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Technically sayin James' and James's means the same thing [[User:Dion24|Dion24]] 23:38, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:...that's not the point.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 23:45, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

== Problem with Platinum-move-standardizing ==

Big problem: Say someone standardizes half of the learnsets in a move and forgets about it. It is put under Platinum standard and no one will know the other half is done. What do we do, manually check every move article? [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 21:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:It's up to the person editing to remember to complete it later. If they don't, we'll find it eventually, just like we do all mistakes in the articles, and can take care of it then. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 21:49, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::A surefire way to find articles with half-converted learnsets is to [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Learnset section box style|use this special page]]. The long-since deleted template that the page is checking for is embedded in old code from the old format, so any article that shows up on that special page has unconverted learnset sections. (I've already gone through and removed the aforementioned old code from all of the pages that have been fully converted.) --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|Let's Go Mets]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|Stats]] 22:28, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

== Featured Article ==

I'm surprised this Wiki doesn't have a featured article. Shouldn't there be one? --[[User:Xknight 511|☆X-Knight☆]][[User talk:Xknight 511|511♂]] 05:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
:There was a few days ago. Now there isn't. There will be again, as soon as the admins get around to it. Once the rush of edits with the Platinum release wears down, I'd guess. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 06:26, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I see. Thank you for teh info. --[[User:Xknight 511|☆X-Knight☆]][[User talk:Xknight 511|511♂]] 06:31, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

==Can't create new page...==

I want to create a page for Rui Quintas and Peter Michael, our (Portugal) two James, but the way I use to create pages don't work... I have two ways: one is searching for the page, and then click on the button that says to begin that certain page. Another way I use is when the name of the page I want to create is red in another page, so I click on it and then I create the page...
However, this time, I can't create the page. Even if I put [[]] around their names, it redirects to the list of international voice actors. See for yourselves - [[Rui Quintas]]. And the same thing if I search.
Is there any other way to create pages? Or can you please resolve this little unwanted redirect, please?[[User:Portuguese Old Man|Portuguese Old Man]] 18:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
:Just go to the top of the voice actors' page and you will see the blue link. Click on it and edit it. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 19:00, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
::It was already decided that these people are not notable enough for their own pages. That is why they are redirects. Not even all f the English voice actors are notable enough, so why shouldn't the international voice actors be the same? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:06, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Ok, thanks^^[[User:Portuguese Old Man|Portuguese Old Man]] 19:14, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

== Userspace? ==

I did some searching, but I can't find anything on it. That said:

Is there a policy outlining what can and can't be done with the userspace? Seems that I can't redirect it to my talk page, how about using it as a reminder list for myself or just blanking the damn thing? -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|BCJ]] 04:44, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:Blanking it ought to be OK (it's your page, after all). You can also slap a {{template|delete}} tag on there and let an admin get rid of it altogether. I'd recommend {{bp|signature policy|customizing your signature}} in such a case so it links to your user talk page. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 04:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::Works for me, thanks. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|BCJ]] 05:03, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:::just want to throw in that i DON'T suggest deleting user pages, as it gives users the dreaded "red label" (user pages not written) and i have a tendency to scan those person's edits. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 05:08, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::::What? Really? Why? I mean, plenty of people around here just don't have userpages. [[User:Urutapu|One of our sysops]], for example. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 07:34, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Personally, I don't think it's a problem to redirect to your own user talk page from your user page; it was just one time (that I know of) that the situation popped up, and the only reason anyone could think ''not'' to do it was because "nobody else does that". It's fairly normal on most other wikis, if someone doesn't actually have - or want - a userpage, but doesn't like a red link. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 15:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::That's what I was thinking, but someone reverted my redirect saying that 'it should be like that'. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|BCJ]]''([[User talk:Bug Catcher Jam|talk]])'' 21:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::It's something that has never been cleared up; there's no current rule about it yet, so it may or may not be reverted depending on who sees it. I think perhaps it's time we made a simple userpage policy; we could fit just common-sense things on it (don't edit it too much, don't insult people, etc), and at least have something to point to when we do need to edit people's userpages. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 19:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::::And if you don't want the "dreaded red link," as you put it, just change your sig to be a different color (if you don't know and can't find color codes, see [[User talk:Theininen|my talk]] for a couple of links and sigs for the setup), or simply put a generic greeting or contact info (i.e. e-mail, AIM, etc.) and it will be normal blue. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 02:06, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

==Categories==

On the bottom of episode pages there are categories for episodes, how do we create one? I looked and couldn't find out how.

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 21:56, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:<nowiki>[[Category:(whatever)]]</nowiki> at the bottom with the others. Then just make the category. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

== # of moves remaining ==

It's actually 36 + one userpage, to be exact. This is inaccurate because moves outside the DPPt 467 have been updated as well, such as Shadow moves or glitch moves. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 00:44, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:They've been counted. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:30, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, it says 467, which only includes the DPPt ones on [[List of moves]]. Even then, [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Learnset section box style|this page]] would like to have a word with you. Various unstarted and unfinished ones on here. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 20:11, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Woo, we're almost there. 2 almost-finished moves and 2 unstarted moves. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] ''I am not removing this lengthy addition to my signature until all moves have been updated to Platinum standard.'' 15:14, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

:how come it says minus 3 now?
:[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 16:23, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

::Because if you put one of the templates used to update it automatically categorizes it, which affects the countdown. In truth, there's really only [[Mud-Slap (move)|one move left]]. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] ''I am not removing this lengthy addition to my signature until all moves have been updated to Platinum standard.'' 16:59, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Platinum ''complete''! [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 18:16, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

::::Sweet. The "Message from the Editor" section of the Main Page should be updated to reflect this. --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|Let's Go Mets]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|Stats]] 07:11, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

== Other pictures/Adds? ==

Subject A.) Okay, I was thinking, should we get pictures of 3D appearances and Ranch (normal and Shiny)?

Subject B.) Alright, when I'm on my Wii, I find adds, and some of them are '''absolutely offensive.''' I get some saying "how dumb are you? take our test to find out!" We absolutely need to remove these. All adds.[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 19:40, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
:Nuh uh. It's the other way around: Unless you have some other way to pay for the server costs, the ads have to stay. You can report offensive ads on the forums but I don't think dumbness tests qualify for that. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:43, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
But still... some are a bit offensive.[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 23:37, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

:And like Fabu-Vinny mentioned, you can report those on the forums; there's a thread for just that purpose. Particularly offensive ads can be blacklisted, so they won't show up again. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 00:50, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
::you could also just sign in, and they all go away. can you sign in on a Wii? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:18, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I've signed into things like Youtube on my Wii, so I think you can sign onto bulbapedia on it. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 13:32, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
I probably could, but on Mariowiki, which has the same set-up, makes it extremespeedly slow.[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 00:12, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

On user profile pages a lot of people have those icons that say like "this user plays this game" "this user's favorite pokemon is" and all sorts of things. Where do we get these!?

--[[User:KantoLegend|KantoLegend]] 04:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

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