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2010-03-06T07:23:48Z

Juron: /* Roton */

{{Forme info|479{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|1=O|2=W|3=R|4=F|5=L}}.png|Electric|Ghost|[[Form differences#Rotom|Rotom's forms]]|Rotom as though it had [[Galactic Eterna Building#Rotom's Room|possesed]] {{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=nothing|1=an oven|2=a washing machine|3=a refrigerator|4=a fan|5=a lawn mower}}, therefore being {{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Normal Rotom|1=Heat Rotom|2=Wash Rotom|3=Frost Rotom|4=Fan Rotom|5=Mow Rotom}}|the artwork shown in the infobox, the anime image shown, the base stats entry which is unhidden, and the Pokéthlon stats entry which is unhidden|day}}

<big><big><big>'''ROTOM IS NOT A LEGENDARY POKÉMON. DO NOT ADD IT TO THE PAGE.'''</big></big></big>

== Roton ==
Under Rotom's orgin it should probably be listed that its based on the quasi particle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roton.

==Archives==
*[[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (discussions from August 24, 2007 – December 5, 2008)

== Unprotect ==

When can this be unprotected? *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 12:14, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
<gallery perrow=3>
Image:Rotom normal.jpg|Rotom
Image:Rotom heat.jpg|Heat Rotom
Image:Rotom wash.jpg|Wash Rotom
Image:Rotom frost.jpg|Frost Rotom
Image:Rotom spin.jpg|Spin Rotom
Image:Rotom cut.jpg|Cut Rotom
</gallery> *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 16:09, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
:Could an admin also fix up the new stats-box? Rotom's the only one not updated. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 20:04, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
::Can this be unprotected anytime soon I wanna make the in the anime part now...[[User:Rucario64|Rucario]][[User Talk:Rucario64|64]] 17:39, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:::This page isn't unprotected yet? [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 19:40, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

== Legendary? ==

I know this has been discussed before but since the main argument for Rotom not being legendary was its stats but now that it can change forms (a trait shared with several legendary Pokémon) that all have better stats ("almost making them analogous to evolutions") should this discussion be reopened.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:No. Not a legendary.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::Shall we bring this up on the Castform talk page too then? What about Cherrim and Burmy? Rotom isn't legendary, it's just the Gen IV version of Snorlax, Sudowoodo and Kecleon (without the annoying blocking of your path thing). — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:44, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:::The main argument was the new stats and ''event'' status. At least I new better than to edit the article outright. If nothing else, it is the first ''non''-legendary to have had new forms unlocked through events.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:41, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, technically, the official DP Pokédex released by Nintendo/Gamefreak/TVTokyo stated that Rotom was a Legendary Pokémon, but yeah, it's doubtful that it is one. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 02:59, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::::: Then so is arcanine. Get working on that children[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:::::: Actually, I was referring to this (It still labels it as the Plasma pokémon, BTW.)

:::::: [[Image:LegendaryRotom.jpg|500px]]

::::::[[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]]03:05, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
I realized a while ago that here we didn't refer to it as legendary and respected that, I was just wondering if it was just because of its {{tt|''awful'' stats|which are better with the new forms}} as well as the new EVENT status.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

its legendary. duh. sure the booked said delibird was a legendary but in the lineup it wasent there and rotom was there. [[User:ArceusEX|ArceusEX]] 20:49, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:Oh no, don't start ''that'' again...--The [[Delibird (Pokémon)|Kk]][[Stantler (Pokémon)|ll]][[Santa Claus|nn]][[User:Kkllnn|ator]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| サンタクロース]] 20:52, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

::: well i brung it up hah [[User:ArceusEX|ArceusEX]] 21:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Sorry, I know this sort of thing brings out the worst in certain bulbapedians (^). But really, what are the remaining arguments? It's stats aren't awful anymore so it can't be that. Also, if this discussion still ends with it not being legendary, could an Admin please add that '''Rotom is the first non-legendary Pokémon to have an alternate form that requires activation from an event'''.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 21:24, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Well, if you look in the deletion log for {{u|Timer/Rotom's Status|one of the most useless pages in history}}, apparently Pokemon.com said it wasn't legendary. And EX, did the book have the official Nintendo Seal on it? Didn't think so. Now, ''better'' handbooks, which actually ''have'' the seal on them, say that 'Tom is ''not'' a legendary.--The [[Delibird (Pokémon)|Kk]][[Stantler (Pokémon)|ll]][[Santa Claus|nn]][[User:Kkllnn|ator]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| サンタクロース]] 21:28, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::Well, I don't know about you, but I think the official copyright that he mentioned is good enough for me. I mean, what's the point in even making a copyright if the person/company in question didn't ACTUALLY create it? Besides, the official Seal of Nintendo isn't going to apply anyways, as Nintendo didn't actually create Pokémon (it was gamefreak). All they did was allow it on their systems. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 21:38, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::In that case, could someone please add the trivia.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 23:15, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I already did a long time ago. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:24, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::We already decided this, Didnt we? Its not a legendary, unless Arcanine is one ({{tt|similar species name|hell, its even listed with Articuno, Zapdos, and MOltres}}[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::::::::::It is not legendary, end of story. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:05, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::No, I mean say '''Rotom is the only non-legendary to be considered "event only"'''.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 00:54, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::LIES! Rotom can be captured, only his other formes, not officially in the Dex, therefore not new pokemon, cant be captured[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:::::::::::::To quote the page:"''As of the official Japanese tournament held in 2008, all Rotom forms have been banned from official tournaments. This is due to the special status of the alternate forms as event-exclusive Pokémon.''" I understand what you mean DCM, but I'm just using what we already have.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:03, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::But it doesnt have its own distinctive entry in the pokedex. Therefore, not a pokemon, just a variant of one.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
(Gettin' cramped) the--[[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 20:58, 8 February 2009 (UTC)n put first/only Pokémon with alternate forms only available through an event. I was just using the {{tt|wording we already had in the article|change that too if necessary}}.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
:Double check that.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

is there any way we can truly find out if it is a legendary or not? [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:26, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
and i consider it semi-legendary like unown or lucario.

also the way you obtain Rotom is like most legendaries, because you have to go up to a T.V. and then a battle starts, do you get what i'm saying?
and an '''''Bold text''OFFICIAL''' nintendo handbook says Rotom is legendary
and Rotom has legendary battle music!!!! [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:31, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:*refrains from using caps* no, it isn't. The music {{p|Cresselia|means}} {{p|Shaymin|nothing}}. Goodbye.--[[Flash Fire (ability)|freezing]][[Heat Wave (move)|COLD]] ([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 23:37, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

so, there is no way we can truly find out if it is a legendary? [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC) [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC) [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

:Even without the Legendary music, there's still the fact that it was mentioned to be a Legendary in an official handbook that was made not only by nintendo, but TVTokyo and even Gamefreak, the ones who actually created Pokémon in the first place. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:50, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

what i'm saying is that you have to activate rotom (in a way) and then battle him.
how many non-legendary pokemon do that!?--[[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 20:58, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
:{{p|Snorlax}}, {{p|Sudowoodo}}. As much as I'd like to think Rotom's legendary, that argument doesn't cut it around here.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 21:13, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

why would nintendo make such a big deal out of rotom in platinum if he wasnt legendary. {{unsigned|Vik0z0z}}
:To make little fanboys and fangirls argue about it on Bulbapedia talkpages. Look guys, there is no official confirmation otherwise, so we have to take it as ''unlegendary'', as that is what ''most'' of the information leads to. Yes, there are points on both sides, but with no ''official'' confirmation, we can't do anything. The discussion here is becoming best suited to the forums and further comments will be deleted. Thanks. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:53, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::Doesn't that Guidebook count as official information? I mean, from the Copyright notice that someone posted in the archives that TV Tokyo, Nintendo, and even Gamefreak had a hand at making the book. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 10:03, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I don't know... It could possily be a legendary... I mean, it's only possible to obtain one right? I don't know. I'll check it out with Nintendo. Maybe they can clear up some questions. [[User:Smashbrother101|Smashbrother101]] 01:11, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

== Trivia worthy? ==

On Pokemon Ranger (The first one), In Fall City, there is a young guy in a house in the south of Fall City. He has a picture on his wall which looks like either Freeze Rotom or Heat Rotom. Can someone else take a look at this for me?--[[User:Pokelova|Pokelova]] 05:12, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
:Thats not really trivia worthy[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

Okay--[[User:Pokelova|Pokelova]] 23:02, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

== Cut and Spin Form U.S. names ==

Serebii.net today got information that two of Rotom's Form names have been changed in the U.S. translation as follows:

Cut Rotom is now known as '''Mow Rotom''' and
Spin Rotom is now known as '''Fan Rotom'''

I just wanted to let you guys you know --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 22:27, 17 March 2009 (UTC)Dialgafan1

== Heat Forme ==

On the official site for Platinum, it says the oven is a microwave oven. I changed it on the Rotom and Form differences pages. [[User:Yinyang1195|Yin]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|Yang]] 21:59, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
:Excellent, well done. *two thumbs up and a big wide grin* — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:01, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
::Umm...Thank you? [[User:Yinyang1195|Yin]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|Yang]] 00:10, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
:::I always thought it was a toaster oven. A microwave doesn't make sense, because it doesn't use fire to heat food. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 00:53, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Neither does Ash carrying a Larvitar. But it's from the site so there's nothing you can do about it. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 00:54, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
::::On its defense, it's Heat Forme, not Fire Forme, so the microwave ''does'' make sense. Toaster ovens don't use fire either, anyway (at least not when functioning correctly).--[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 15:54, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

== Charon's journal and notes on Rotom ==

Should I add them on Rotom's or Charon's page, or should I just not add them at all. --[[User talk:AOS|AOS]] 03:32, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
:I say Charon's page. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 03:33, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

== Artwork at top... ==

Why is it only Frost Rotom?[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 20:43, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
:Purge the server, click on the time at the top right of the page--[[Flash Fire (ability)|freezing]][[Heat Wave (move)|COLD]] ([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 20:45, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

== Why wash Rotom ==

The regular Rotom illustrates the Rotom concept better than its other forms. Do you see the sky forme Shaymin as the main picture on Shaymin's page? No? Then put the regular Rotom as the main images on this page! --[[User:HideInTheDark|HideInTheDark]] 18:26, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
:First of, calmness is key. Second, the images are on a timer, and change every day for this article, I believe. The pictures on Shaymin, as well as numerous other pages, also change at set times. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 18:37, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
::Oopsy, sorry, I didn't notice. A million sorry. --[[User:HideInTheDark|HideInTheDark]] 18:39, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Why wash Rotom? Maybe its dirty! (Sorry, I couldn't resist.) [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 16:25, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

== Nintendo ==

We really should just wait for Nintendo to say something. I mean, just because someone says it isn't legendary or it is, doesn't mean that what they say is true or official, because nobody knows for sure, and because Nintendo never said anything about Rotom. (And I don't mean Pokemon.com) [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 19:48, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

:Still, multiple times it has been referred to as NON-legendary. You may be right, but I'm pretty sure its non-legendary. Nintendo mentioned it once if I'm correct, and the only possible proof that its legendary is that its banned from tournaments. ((User:Megamew/Megamew)) 02:08:13, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
::Actually, there is one other proof that it's legendary. The official handbook for DP had actually stated that Rotom is legendary. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 10:55, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Those handbooks are incalcuably full of errors, though. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 11:32, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
::::I think that the handbooks are a bit... unreliable. they have made (many) mistakes before and should not be trusted for important matters such as legendary Pokémon. ((User:Megamew/megamew)) 21:37, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

== Trading to Diamond and Pearl ==

If Rotom is in its Wash form (for example) and it was traded to Diamond or Pearl, it would be reverted back to its Normal Form. However, if it were to be traded back to a copy of Platinum (after being reverted to Normal Form by Diamond or Pearl), would it go back to its Wash Form, or would it stay as Normal Form? [[User:Ggled|Ggled]] 13:53, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

:It would most likely stay as it's normal form. I can't find anything on Youtube, so I can't confirm it for you. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:02, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I got some friends, Pokémon Platinum, A DS lite, and a wash [[rotom]] over here. I'm on it. --[[User:16ipodfanatic|16ipodfanatic]] 03:59, 15 June 2009 (UTC)16ipodfanatic

== "Auto-relearning" ThunderShock (in Platinum) ==

In the trivia section, there is the later part of one that says "If the only move that Rotom knows right before reverting to its original form is exclusive to its alternate form, then that move will be replaced with ThunderShock." I only own Platinum, and recently captured Rotom. Found the secret room, and transformed it, letting it learn that form's attack (replacing ThunderShock). Changed it to another appliance, then back to default, but found that ThunderShock had been deleted instead. Luckily, had saved just beforehand, so just did a power reset.

I then tested with just one appliance then back to default, and ThunderShock was again deleted instead of coming back and replacing the appliance's attack. So perhaps the replacing only happens in D/P? If someone could confirm and correct it, that'd be cool.

Also found that not allowing Rotom to learn the appliance's attack will also not allow Rotom to take it over. Again, no clue if this is different in D/P (if it is, obviously should be noted by someone that can confirm it).

Until confirmed, I'm removing the part I quoted for now, and someone can just retrive it later or rewrite it as neccessary.--[[User:Mondoblasto|Mondoblasto]] 08:48, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
:Ah, but that says the ''only'' move. I.e., delete all of Rotom's moves ''but'' the special move, then change it back. I'm fairly certain that's what it means (not that I have Platinum to confirm). It refers only to Platinum, as the alternate forms are only in Pt, btw. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:54, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::Oh ya, secret key->secret room->alternate forms only in Platinum.... after going to Canada's first Pokemon event, you'd think I'd remember that >_<; Since I DO have Platinum (long time fan of the anime, but first game), I guess I can go ahead and test it; as mentioned, my Rotom still fresh and default. I don't know of a way to remove moves, but I'm thinking I'll try using the appliance moves to delete them one after the other, through chain changing, and maybe also by default->alternate1->default->alternate2... ect--[[User:Mondoblasto|Mondoblasto]] 06:12, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:::There's a [[move deleter]] in [[Canalave City]]. That should help. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
::::I tested it with a Heat Rotom knowing only Overheat, and it's only move is now ThunderShock. It didn't even know ThunderShock before I deleted the other moves (not that that would make a difference), so it must have learnt it when changing formes. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] 06:42, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::Excellent, we've proved the article correct. I do enjoy doing that. :D Great effort. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:54, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

==Interesting...==
Wait, according to the anime, [[rotom]] can move even when it's not in it's battle mode. Wait, what? Okay, '''now''' I'm confused. Can someone help me with this? Oh, by the way... '''STOP FIGHTING/ARGUING ABOUT WHETHER ROTOM IS A LEGENDARY OR NOT!!!!''' I'm sick of your squabbling. --[[User:16ipodfanatic|16ipodfanatic]] 03:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)16ipodfanatic
:Thanks for bringing it up again. That's really just what we wanted. And anime =/= games. The two canons do things differently. Just because something happens in one, it doesn't have to happen in the other. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 04:04, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

== Name origins ==

I once added a small note that Rotom may also be a combination of ''rotate'' and possibly ''atom'', which got removed. Sure Charon may have named Rotom, '''but might I add that Rotom existed before Platinum? Charon was probably not even near their heads when they were choosing a name for Rotom at that time.''' So it seems to make sense to me that in the REAL WORLD, Rotom's name origin was most likely different back then. Yes it's name is motor backwards, but I was just trying to show that there were probably other possiblities why it was named that. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 07:24, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
:I agree, We have another possible name origin for {{p|Electrode}}--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 07:37, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
::Had it been based off of something else, surely the journal would have reflected that, like ''I have decided to name this most wondrous Pokémon 'Rotom.' Simple though it may be, Rotom emerged to me like a '''Rot'''atting a'''tom'''... Surely the link is obvious?''--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 20:22, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Honestly, there's usually only one reason for naming it, and we all know Platinum was planned during DP. They just needed to give a reason to buy Pt. It's like how Phione was named after a clione, not "clone" or "phony" or anything else. They put in the journal exactly what they named it for, making it the only truly canonical name origin. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:15, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

== About the banning ==

:"As of the official Japanese tournament held in 2008, all Rotom forms have been banned from official tournaments. This is due to the special status of the alternate forms as event-exclusive Pokémon."
But wait a second.. you can get the Rotom formes without any extra events in HGSS (it's in Silph Co., not sure if you need to beat Red or anything), and I assume that the 2010 tourney from what I've heard uses HGSS only. So they're not really all that event-exclusive..? I think there might be some rewording needed here... ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 06:46, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
:Has the 2010 rules list been released yet? It could have been updated now that the formes are all for the taking. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:08, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
::Just checked the banlist (somewhere on [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/wcs0910/game/reg.html here]), the only Pokémon that are banned are Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, Phione, Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin and Arceus. So, I'm assuming that it's legal to use the Rotom formes.. I'm not really good with wording things though, more of a typo fixer, so uh... can someone change that on the page? ;; ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 17:38, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
== In explorers of sky... ==

Alright. Pokémon mystery dungeon explorers of sky was released after platinum was, right? Well, I was wondering if there is any way to change its rotom's form in explorers of sky. If anybody knows anything about that, it would help. Thanks! {{unsigned|Luke6256}}

== Multiple Rotom ==

Could someone bring mutliple Rotom and appliance them or is it only one at a time? [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 04:22, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
:Multiple Rotom can be in different formes at the same time (If you have multiple Rotom in your party it will ask which one you want to go into the appliance), but you can only have one of each forme at a time. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 07:18, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Rotom (Pokémon)/Archive 2

2010-03-06T07:13:04Z

Juron:

{{Forme info|479{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|1=O|2=W|3=R|4=F|5=L}}.png|Electric|Ghost|[[Form differences#Rotom|Rotom's forms]]|Rotom as though it had [[Galactic Eterna Building#Rotom's Room|possesed]] {{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=nothing|1=an oven|2=a washing machine|3=a refrigerator|4=a fan|5=a lawn mower}}, therefore being {{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Normal Rotom|1=Heat Rotom|2=Wash Rotom|3=Frost Rotom|4=Fan Rotom|5=Mow Rotom}}|the artwork shown in the infobox, the anime image shown, the base stats entry which is unhidden, and the Pokéthlon stats entry which is unhidden|day}}

<big><big><big>'''ROTOM IS NOT A LEGENDARY POKÉMON. DO NOT ADD IT TO THE PAGE.'''</big></big></big>

== Roton ==
Under Rotom's orgin it should probably be listed that its basen on the quasi particle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roton.

==Archives==
*[[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (discussions from August 24, 2007 – December 5, 2008)

== Unprotect ==

When can this be unprotected? *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 12:14, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
<gallery perrow=3>
Image:Rotom normal.jpg|Rotom
Image:Rotom heat.jpg|Heat Rotom
Image:Rotom wash.jpg|Wash Rotom
Image:Rotom frost.jpg|Frost Rotom
Image:Rotom spin.jpg|Spin Rotom
Image:Rotom cut.jpg|Cut Rotom
</gallery> *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 16:09, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
:Could an admin also fix up the new stats-box? Rotom's the only one not updated. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 20:04, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
::Can this be unprotected anytime soon I wanna make the in the anime part now...[[User:Rucario64|Rucario]][[User Talk:Rucario64|64]] 17:39, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:::This page isn't unprotected yet? [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 19:40, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

== Legendary? ==

I know this has been discussed before but since the main argument for Rotom not being legendary was its stats but now that it can change forms (a trait shared with several legendary Pokémon) that all have better stats ("almost making them analogous to evolutions") should this discussion be reopened.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:No. Not a legendary.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::Shall we bring this up on the Castform talk page too then? What about Cherrim and Burmy? Rotom isn't legendary, it's just the Gen IV version of Snorlax, Sudowoodo and Kecleon (without the annoying blocking of your path thing). — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:44, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:::The main argument was the new stats and ''event'' status. At least I new better than to edit the article outright. If nothing else, it is the first ''non''-legendary to have had new forms unlocked through events.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:41, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, technically, the official DP Pokédex released by Nintendo/Gamefreak/TVTokyo stated that Rotom was a Legendary Pokémon, but yeah, it's doubtful that it is one. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 02:59, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::::: Then so is arcanine. Get working on that children[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:::::: Actually, I was referring to this (It still labels it as the Plasma pokémon, BTW.)

:::::: [[Image:LegendaryRotom.jpg|500px]]

::::::[[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]]03:05, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
I realized a while ago that here we didn't refer to it as legendary and respected that, I was just wondering if it was just because of its {{tt|''awful'' stats|which are better with the new forms}} as well as the new EVENT status.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

its legendary. duh. sure the booked said delibird was a legendary but in the lineup it wasent there and rotom was there. [[User:ArceusEX|ArceusEX]] 20:49, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:Oh no, don't start ''that'' again...--The [[Delibird (Pokémon)|Kk]][[Stantler (Pokémon)|ll]][[Santa Claus|nn]][[User:Kkllnn|ator]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| サンタクロース]] 20:52, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

::: well i brung it up hah [[User:ArceusEX|ArceusEX]] 21:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Sorry, I know this sort of thing brings out the worst in certain bulbapedians (^). But really, what are the remaining arguments? It's stats aren't awful anymore so it can't be that. Also, if this discussion still ends with it not being legendary, could an Admin please add that '''Rotom is the first non-legendary Pokémon to have an alternate form that requires activation from an event'''.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 21:24, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Well, if you look in the deletion log for {{u|Timer/Rotom's Status|one of the most useless pages in history}}, apparently Pokemon.com said it wasn't legendary. And EX, did the book have the official Nintendo Seal on it? Didn't think so. Now, ''better'' handbooks, which actually ''have'' the seal on them, say that 'Tom is ''not'' a legendary.--The [[Delibird (Pokémon)|Kk]][[Stantler (Pokémon)|ll]][[Santa Claus|nn]][[User:Kkllnn|ator]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| サンタクロース]] 21:28, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::Well, I don't know about you, but I think the official copyright that he mentioned is good enough for me. I mean, what's the point in even making a copyright if the person/company in question didn't ACTUALLY create it? Besides, the official Seal of Nintendo isn't going to apply anyways, as Nintendo didn't actually create Pokémon (it was gamefreak). All they did was allow it on their systems. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 21:38, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::In that case, could someone please add the trivia.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 23:15, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I already did a long time ago. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:24, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::We already decided this, Didnt we? Its not a legendary, unless Arcanine is one ({{tt|similar species name|hell, its even listed with Articuno, Zapdos, and MOltres}}[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::::::::::It is not legendary, end of story. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:05, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::No, I mean say '''Rotom is the only non-legendary to be considered "event only"'''.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 00:54, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::LIES! Rotom can be captured, only his other formes, not officially in the Dex, therefore not new pokemon, cant be captured[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:::::::::::::To quote the page:"''As of the official Japanese tournament held in 2008, all Rotom forms have been banned from official tournaments. This is due to the special status of the alternate forms as event-exclusive Pokémon.''" I understand what you mean DCM, but I'm just using what we already have.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:03, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::But it doesnt have its own distinctive entry in the pokedex. Therefore, not a pokemon, just a variant of one.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
(Gettin' cramped) the--[[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 20:58, 8 February 2009 (UTC)n put first/only Pokémon with alternate forms only available through an event. I was just using the {{tt|wording we already had in the article|change that too if necessary}}.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
:Double check that.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

is there any way we can truly find out if it is a legendary or not? [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:26, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
and i consider it semi-legendary like unown or lucario.

also the way you obtain Rotom is like most legendaries, because you have to go up to a T.V. and then a battle starts, do you get what i'm saying?
and an '''''Bold text''OFFICIAL''' nintendo handbook says Rotom is legendary
and Rotom has legendary battle music!!!! [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:31, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:*refrains from using caps* no, it isn't. The music {{p|Cresselia|means}} {{p|Shaymin|nothing}}. Goodbye.--[[Flash Fire (ability)|freezing]][[Heat Wave (move)|COLD]] ([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 23:37, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

so, there is no way we can truly find out if it is a legendary? [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC) [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC) [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

:Even without the Legendary music, there's still the fact that it was mentioned to be a Legendary in an official handbook that was made not only by nintendo, but TVTokyo and even Gamefreak, the ones who actually created Pokémon in the first place. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:50, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

what i'm saying is that you have to activate rotom (in a way) and then battle him.
how many non-legendary pokemon do that!?--[[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 20:58, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
:{{p|Snorlax}}, {{p|Sudowoodo}}. As much as I'd like to think Rotom's legendary, that argument doesn't cut it around here.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 21:13, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

why would nintendo make such a big deal out of rotom in platinum if he wasnt legendary. {{unsigned|Vik0z0z}}
:To make little fanboys and fangirls argue about it on Bulbapedia talkpages. Look guys, there is no official confirmation otherwise, so we have to take it as ''unlegendary'', as that is what ''most'' of the information leads to. Yes, there are points on both sides, but with no ''official'' confirmation, we can't do anything. The discussion here is becoming best suited to the forums and further comments will be deleted. Thanks. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:53, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::Doesn't that Guidebook count as official information? I mean, from the Copyright notice that someone posted in the archives that TV Tokyo, Nintendo, and even Gamefreak had a hand at making the book. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 10:03, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I don't know... It could possily be a legendary... I mean, it's only possible to obtain one right? I don't know. I'll check it out with Nintendo. Maybe they can clear up some questions. [[User:Smashbrother101|Smashbrother101]] 01:11, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

== Trivia worthy? ==

On Pokemon Ranger (The first one), In Fall City, there is a young guy in a house in the south of Fall City. He has a picture on his wall which looks like either Freeze Rotom or Heat Rotom. Can someone else take a look at this for me?--[[User:Pokelova|Pokelova]] 05:12, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
:Thats not really trivia worthy[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

Okay--[[User:Pokelova|Pokelova]] 23:02, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

== Cut and Spin Form U.S. names ==

Serebii.net today got information that two of Rotom's Form names have been changed in the U.S. translation as follows:

Cut Rotom is now known as '''Mow Rotom''' and
Spin Rotom is now known as '''Fan Rotom'''

I just wanted to let you guys you know --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 22:27, 17 March 2009 (UTC)Dialgafan1

== Heat Forme ==

On the official site for Platinum, it says the oven is a microwave oven. I changed it on the Rotom and Form differences pages. [[User:Yinyang1195|Yin]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|Yang]] 21:59, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
:Excellent, well done. *two thumbs up and a big wide grin* — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:01, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
::Umm...Thank you? [[User:Yinyang1195|Yin]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|Yang]] 00:10, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
:::I always thought it was a toaster oven. A microwave doesn't make sense, because it doesn't use fire to heat food. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 00:53, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Neither does Ash carrying a Larvitar. But it's from the site so there's nothing you can do about it. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 00:54, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
::::On its defense, it's Heat Forme, not Fire Forme, so the microwave ''does'' make sense. Toaster ovens don't use fire either, anyway (at least not when functioning correctly).--[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 15:54, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

== Charon's journal and notes on Rotom ==

Should I add them on Rotom's or Charon's page, or should I just not add them at all. --[[User talk:AOS|AOS]] 03:32, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
:I say Charon's page. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 03:33, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

== Artwork at top... ==

Why is it only Frost Rotom?[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 20:43, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
:Purge the server, click on the time at the top right of the page--[[Flash Fire (ability)|freezing]][[Heat Wave (move)|COLD]] ([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 20:45, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

== Why wash Rotom ==

The regular Rotom illustrates the Rotom concept better than its other forms. Do you see the sky forme Shaymin as the main picture on Shaymin's page? No? Then put the regular Rotom as the main images on this page! --[[User:HideInTheDark|HideInTheDark]] 18:26, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
:First of, calmness is key. Second, the images are on a timer, and change every day for this article, I believe. The pictures on Shaymin, as well as numerous other pages, also change at set times. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 18:37, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
::Oopsy, sorry, I didn't notice. A million sorry. --[[User:HideInTheDark|HideInTheDark]] 18:39, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Why wash Rotom? Maybe its dirty! (Sorry, I couldn't resist.) [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 16:25, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

== Nintendo ==

We really should just wait for Nintendo to say something. I mean, just because someone says it isn't legendary or it is, doesn't mean that what they say is true or official, because nobody knows for sure, and because Nintendo never said anything about Rotom. (And I don't mean Pokemon.com) [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 19:48, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

:Still, multiple times it has been referred to as NON-legendary. You may be right, but I'm pretty sure its non-legendary. Nintendo mentioned it once if I'm correct, and the only possible proof that its legendary is that its banned from tournaments. ((User:Megamew/Megamew)) 02:08:13, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
::Actually, there is one other proof that it's legendary. The official handbook for DP had actually stated that Rotom is legendary. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 10:55, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Those handbooks are incalcuably full of errors, though. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 11:32, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
::::I think that the handbooks are a bit... unreliable. they have made (many) mistakes before and should not be trusted for important matters such as legendary Pokémon. ((User:Megamew/megamew)) 21:37, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

== Trading to Diamond and Pearl ==

If Rotom is in its Wash form (for example) and it was traded to Diamond or Pearl, it would be reverted back to its Normal Form. However, if it were to be traded back to a copy of Platinum (after being reverted to Normal Form by Diamond or Pearl), would it go back to its Wash Form, or would it stay as Normal Form? [[User:Ggled|Ggled]] 13:53, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

:It would most likely stay as it's normal form. I can't find anything on Youtube, so I can't confirm it for you. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:02, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I got some friends, Pokémon Platinum, A DS lite, and a wash [[rotom]] over here. I'm on it. --[[User:16ipodfanatic|16ipodfanatic]] 03:59, 15 June 2009 (UTC)16ipodfanatic

== "Auto-relearning" ThunderShock (in Platinum) ==

In the trivia section, there is the later part of one that says "If the only move that Rotom knows right before reverting to its original form is exclusive to its alternate form, then that move will be replaced with ThunderShock." I only own Platinum, and recently captured Rotom. Found the secret room, and transformed it, letting it learn that form's attack (replacing ThunderShock). Changed it to another appliance, then back to default, but found that ThunderShock had been deleted instead. Luckily, had saved just beforehand, so just did a power reset.

I then tested with just one appliance then back to default, and ThunderShock was again deleted instead of coming back and replacing the appliance's attack. So perhaps the replacing only happens in D/P? If someone could confirm and correct it, that'd be cool.

Also found that not allowing Rotom to learn the appliance's attack will also not allow Rotom to take it over. Again, no clue if this is different in D/P (if it is, obviously should be noted by someone that can confirm it).

Until confirmed, I'm removing the part I quoted for now, and someone can just retrive it later or rewrite it as neccessary.--[[User:Mondoblasto|Mondoblasto]] 08:48, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
:Ah, but that says the ''only'' move. I.e., delete all of Rotom's moves ''but'' the special move, then change it back. I'm fairly certain that's what it means (not that I have Platinum to confirm). It refers only to Platinum, as the alternate forms are only in Pt, btw. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:54, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::Oh ya, secret key->secret room->alternate forms only in Platinum.... after going to Canada's first Pokemon event, you'd think I'd remember that >_<; Since I DO have Platinum (long time fan of the anime, but first game), I guess I can go ahead and test it; as mentioned, my Rotom still fresh and default. I don't know of a way to remove moves, but I'm thinking I'll try using the appliance moves to delete them one after the other, through chain changing, and maybe also by default->alternate1->default->alternate2... ect--[[User:Mondoblasto|Mondoblasto]] 06:12, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:::There's a [[move deleter]] in [[Canalave City]]. That should help. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
::::I tested it with a Heat Rotom knowing only Overheat, and it's only move is now ThunderShock. It didn't even know ThunderShock before I deleted the other moves (not that that would make a difference), so it must have learnt it when changing formes. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] 06:42, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::Excellent, we've proved the article correct. I do enjoy doing that. :D Great effort. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:54, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

==Interesting...==
Wait, according to the anime, [[rotom]] can move even when it's not in it's battle mode. Wait, what? Okay, '''now''' I'm confused. Can someone help me with this? Oh, by the way... '''STOP FIGHTING/ARGUING ABOUT WHETHER ROTOM IS A LEGENDARY OR NOT!!!!''' I'm sick of your squabbling. --[[User:16ipodfanatic|16ipodfanatic]] 03:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)16ipodfanatic
:Thanks for bringing it up again. That's really just what we wanted. And anime =/= games. The two canons do things differently. Just because something happens in one, it doesn't have to happen in the other. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 04:04, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

== Name origins ==

I once added a small note that Rotom may also be a combination of ''rotate'' and possibly ''atom'', which got removed. Sure Charon may have named Rotom, '''but might I add that Rotom existed before Platinum? Charon was probably not even near their heads when they were choosing a name for Rotom at that time.''' So it seems to make sense to me that in the REAL WORLD, Rotom's name origin was most likely different back then. Yes it's name is motor backwards, but I was just trying to show that there were probably other possiblities why it was named that. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 07:24, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
:I agree, We have another possible name origin for {{p|Electrode}}--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 07:37, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
::Had it been based off of something else, surely the journal would have reflected that, like ''I have decided to name this most wondrous Pokémon 'Rotom.' Simple though it may be, Rotom emerged to me like a '''Rot'''atting a'''tom'''... Surely the link is obvious?''--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 20:22, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Honestly, there's usually only one reason for naming it, and we all know Platinum was planned during DP. They just needed to give a reason to buy Pt. It's like how Phione was named after a clione, not "clone" or "phony" or anything else. They put in the journal exactly what they named it for, making it the only truly canonical name origin. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:15, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

== About the banning ==

:"As of the official Japanese tournament held in 2008, all Rotom forms have been banned from official tournaments. This is due to the special status of the alternate forms as event-exclusive Pokémon."
But wait a second.. you can get the Rotom formes without any extra events in HGSS (it's in Silph Co., not sure if you need to beat Red or anything), and I assume that the 2010 tourney from what I've heard uses HGSS only. So they're not really all that event-exclusive..? I think there might be some rewording needed here... ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 06:46, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
:Has the 2010 rules list been released yet? It could have been updated now that the formes are all for the taking. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:08, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
::Just checked the banlist (somewhere on [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/wcs0910/game/reg.html here]), the only Pokémon that are banned are Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, Phione, Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin and Arceus. So, I'm assuming that it's legal to use the Rotom formes.. I'm not really good with wording things though, more of a typo fixer, so uh... can someone change that on the page? ;; ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 17:38, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
== In explorers of sky... ==

Alright. Pokémon mystery dungeon explorers of sky was released after platinum was, right? Well, I was wondering if there is any way to change its rotom's form in explorers of sky. If anybody knows anything about that, it would help. Thanks! {{unsigned|Luke6256}}

== Multiple Rotom ==

Could someone bring mutliple Rotom and appliance them or is it only one at a time? [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 04:22, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
:Multiple Rotom can be in different formes at the same time (If you have multiple Rotom in your party it will ask which one you want to go into the appliance), but you can only have one of each forme at a time. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 07:18, 2 March 2010 (UTC)