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Talk:Torchic (Pokémon)

2010-03-09T18:55:08Z

Jono R: /* Don't you find it odd */ new section

==[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]==
What attack does it use in brawl? --[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 21:44, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Fire Spin, maybe.[[User:Pikajigglychan|Pikajigglychan]] 08:24, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

== Gender differences ==

How did we find out about the black spot?
I have three male torchics in diamond and I didn't see anything...[[User:Sludge|Sludge]] 13:53, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:Read that again...you have three MALE Torchic. The gender difference is the black spot on the back for males and no spot on the back for females. Look around their butts. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 13:56, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
::[[Image:Spr_b_g4_255_m.png]]
:: Notice the small spot on it's rear, that's how. It only appears in the backsprite.--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]-[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 13:58, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:::A very minute difference like that is very easy to miss. Something that small can slip by even experts, especially if the difference is backsprite-only (partly why serebii.net never caught it). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:48, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS ==

shouldn't HeartGold/SoulSilver is after defeating Red but not trade? --[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 11:36, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
:Automated template function. We'll patch everything up soon enough, don't you worry. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:48, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

== Typo ==

There is a little typo in Special Abilities. It says 'breath' instead of 'breathe'. -- [[User:Hohoo|Hohoo]] 20:19, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

== What??! ==

Help! What's happened to the infobox? Giant Torchic!! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 14:15, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

== Don't you find it odd ==

I know that it's evolved forms are more physical based, but if Torchic learns Flamethrower by level up. Why can't it's evolved forms? --[[User:Jono R|Jono R]] 18:55, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Sabrina

2009-11-14T08:41:53Z

Jono R: /* Fighting Dojo? */

Why is the Electric Tale of Pikachu stuff under Misc? Shouldn't that have its own entry? It doesn't seem fair that Special gets its own heading and the other mangas don't, especially when they require length like this. I can see cramming it under Misc if it's just a line or two (ie, the two references under Koga's entry), but for an entry with detail, they should have their own heading.--BJG
:You can easily fix that yourself, you know. [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]] 16:43, 9 Aug 2005 (CDT)

== Sabrina's appearance in Pokémon Special ==

In which volumes does Sabrina appear? --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 00:37, 9 Aug 2005 (CEST)

== Sabrina owning a Hitmonlee ==

Wouldn’t it be more likely that Otoshi got his badge from the Fighting Dojo before it lost its Gym status? [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 00:26, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

:There's several theories about different variants of the 27 known Kanto badges in the anime on the [[Badge]] page, including some of Otoshi's badges. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 00:27, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

::Considering how the Marsh Badge was shown in that particular scene during the flashback, I doubt it was a different gym he accessed. Also, I'm pretty sure the Fighting Gym would have had their own badge (The Marsh Badge, or the Soul Badge as it was originally going to be called, wasn't exactly a "Fighting" kind of Badge, it's more closely linked to Psychic types.). [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:42, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

:::What do you think is more likely? That the Fighting Gym used Marsh Badges, or that Sabrina had a Hitmonlee-a Pokemon that Kiyo of the Fighting Dojo is known to have? When looking at the badge, I don't see anything obviously Psychic about it. Furthermore, I could see the word "Soul" being used for a Fighting badge. [[User:Alakazam17|Alakazam17]] 2:18, 28 November 2008
::::You make a valid point, but this is all really just specualtion. And I can see soul for fighting.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

But it's BS, so I erased it, considering Hitmonlee would need to bond with her telepathically--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 19:22, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

:So, I guess that Haunter must be removed as well then? I mean, if you want to remove [Hitmonlee] due to it not having a bond with her telepathically, then Haunter should also be removed due to the fact that it also isn't able to form a telepathic bond with it (It's a ghost/poison type, not a Psychic type.). [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:27, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

::::Not to mention that the badges in the background didn't have to fit the battles which Otoshi won. I mean, the fact that Marsh Badge was shown in the background when showing a battle with Hitmonlee doesn't have to mean that he was fighting Hitmonlee was for Marsh Badge. It could be a different battle. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 19:23, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

:::::Actually, the Volcano Badge Background matched perfectly (We do know that Blaine owns a Magmar.). Also, he was talking about how he had strived hard to get the badges, fought the gym leaders through huge trials, which also implies that the battle was indeed against Sabrina (and thus, the Hitmonlee was indeed hers.). If you don't want to list it as her pokemon, can we at least list it as "status unknown"? [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:26, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::I agree with Weedle. I mean, what's wrong in putting Hitmonlee as "status unknown". There is still a possibility it belongs to her since Magmar was also shown with the {{badge|Volcano}} in the very same flashback. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 02:22, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

:::::::Badges do not expire. Someone had to be the Gym Leader of Saffron City before her. That could have been the Fighting Dojo people, but we don't know for sure. What evidence do you have that Otoshi fought Sabrina for his Marsh Badge? None! That could have been anyone... her father, perhaps; maybe even Kiyo. We don't know if he even battled Sabrina or not, so there is not even enough proof to say that the Hitmonlee was her's to begin with. He could have faced any number of people with a Hitmonlee, it wasn't necesarily Sabrina, because they can't be Gym Leaders forever. Someone was before her...it isn't always going to be Sabrina handing out the Badge. Maylene started six months before Ash met her... Koga is no longer the gym leader for his gym... and Giovanni was no longer the leader either. It could have been someone else's. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 02:32, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

:::::::::Big difference, Saffron City had TWO Gyms (one was the Fighting Dojo), those GLs that you mentioned had either inherited the same gym [Maylene, Janine], or got promoted [Gary/Blue]. In the case of Sabrina, the Saffron Gym beat out the Fighting Dojo for the Position of becoming a Gym Leader (and since Gyms have different badges, the Fighting Dojo is bound to have a different badge as well.), so technically, She IS the first Gym Leader of the NEW Saffron Gym to have existed (the original gym, the Fighting Dojo, was beaten out.). [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 02:41, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

:How do you know that the Badge didn't just transfer over? If one beat out the other, they might have just taken the Fighting Dojo's badge, and used it for the Saffron Gym's. All we are doing is naming "ifs" and "buts" that aren't even true and are complete speculation. We have no proof what-so-ever that the Hitmonlee was her's. If it isn't true, it shouldn't be put in the article. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 02:47, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

::Because, theres far more badges in kanto than in the games (It ranges between 27 badges, and over 100 badges), In order to fit all of these badges into the region, there needs to be more than 100 towns (which, even for the Anime's expanded version of Kanto, that's too much for the region.), I mean, we already have 33 Towns (counting the in-game towns), and even then, two of these towns are actually already part of another town (HopHopHop town and Scissors Street are all districts of Celadon City), which would make 31 towns total. In order for these 100 badges to exist in all 31 known cities, they need to do repeats (meaning, there needs to be more than one official town in the anime.), so, that means that, in the Anime, The Fighting Dojo, has to have another badge from the Marsh Badge. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 03:05, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Since when do Gyms need to be in towns? They don't need to be in a town to be considered a gym. Just because all of the ones we know of are in cities and towns, doesn't mean they all are. Do you have any proof that they have to be? I do not think they have to, and that reasoning does not mean The Fighting Dojo ''has'' to have another badge from the Marsh Badge. Again, saying all these if statements doesn't get us anywhere. We have no proof that the Hitmonlee was hers, so it doesn't get to be in the article. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:20, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

::::For all we know, there'll be an official {{t|Dark}}-type gym located smack dab in the middle of Route 308 in the [[country]] wherever [[Generation V]] takes place. Sure, I don't think this whole "100 gyms in anime Kanto" is an accurate figure, but the possibility of gyms on highways always exists...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 04:43, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Seriously, no one is saying Hitmonlee does belong to Sabrina. Its just a possibility. It should be mentioned at least that Sabrina may have owned it. By making no mention of it, it's as if we know its 100% confirmed she doesn't have it. Since its not confirmed it should be in Status unknown. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 05:19, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

:Another thing, just because the Fighting Dojo was in the games does NOT mean that it's in the Anime. If I must point out, they never even once referred to a Saffron Dojo, never mind it's being beaten by Saffron Gym. Another thing, a gym does NOT use the same badge as another gym, plus the Marsh badge doesn't even refer to Fighting Pokemon, it's referring to Psychic Pokemon. And just because it's not a Psychic type does NOT mean that it can't belong to Sabrina. If I must remind you, Koga also owned several Voltorb, which definitely would not be Poison types fitting for the gym, and Blaine has a Rhydon, which isn't a fire type at all. The Viridian Gym only utilized one Rock/Ground combination in each battle (ok, technically, Rhydon is Ground/Rock, but still), with the rest of the pokemon being a Psychic type, two water types, a psychic type, and two poison types) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 02:47, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
:EDIT: ok, I guess there's Pasta La Vista Baby in regards to the Saffron Dojo, but they definitely never mentioned the whole issue involving them being defeated by Saffron Gym. In fact, one can argue that the Anime implies that it never was an official Gym in the first place.

== Sabrina as Evil? ==

Would you consider Sabrina to have been a temporary antagonist? [[User:DarkGiratina|DarkGiratina]] 19:13, 31 January 2009 (UTC)DarkGiratina
:In the anime? Wouldn't the same be true for all Gym Leaders, seeing as they stand in the way of Ash's goals? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 20:24, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::I think he's referring to the fact that Sabrina turned her mom and Ash's friends into dolls. But I don't think she qualifies as an antagonist. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

== Her hair is dark green? ==

According to her FR/LG offical art(which is a different color from her others),it doesn't look very greenish. I don't remember the name of the color,but it doesn't look greenish. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 02:42, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, what's with the statement that her "official" hair colour is dark green? The ONLY place I see her hair being green at all is in the anime. [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 09:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::It still doesn't look green. It seems like a mixture of blue and green, it's similar to game!Dawn's hair color(Navy blue) but lighter. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 02:37, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

== Fighting Dojo? ==

Why does it say Fighting Dojo on her HG/SS battle team? --[[User:Jono R|Jono R]] 12:00, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
:Because that's where all Gym Leader rematches take place in HGSS. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 17:16, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
:: Ahh, I've not had a rematch. lol, don't understand japanese so It's easier in platinum where their are certain Gym Leaders in the battle place without any requirements like phone numbers. --[[User:Jono R|Jono R]] 08:41, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Sabrina

2009-11-14T08:41:34Z

Jono R: /* Fighting Dojo? */

Why is the Electric Tale of Pikachu stuff under Misc? Shouldn't that have its own entry? It doesn't seem fair that Special gets its own heading and the other mangas don't, especially when they require length like this. I can see cramming it under Misc if it's just a line or two (ie, the two references under Koga's entry), but for an entry with detail, they should have their own heading.--BJG
:You can easily fix that yourself, you know. [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]] 16:43, 9 Aug 2005 (CDT)

== Sabrina's appearance in Pokémon Special ==

In which volumes does Sabrina appear? --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 00:37, 9 Aug 2005 (CEST)

== Sabrina owning a Hitmonlee ==

Wouldn’t it be more likely that Otoshi got his badge from the Fighting Dojo before it lost its Gym status? [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 00:26, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

:There's several theories about different variants of the 27 known Kanto badges in the anime on the [[Badge]] page, including some of Otoshi's badges. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 00:27, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

::Considering how the Marsh Badge was shown in that particular scene during the flashback, I doubt it was a different gym he accessed. Also, I'm pretty sure the Fighting Gym would have had their own badge (The Marsh Badge, or the Soul Badge as it was originally going to be called, wasn't exactly a "Fighting" kind of Badge, it's more closely linked to Psychic types.). [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:42, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

:::What do you think is more likely? That the Fighting Gym used Marsh Badges, or that Sabrina had a Hitmonlee-a Pokemon that Kiyo of the Fighting Dojo is known to have? When looking at the badge, I don't see anything obviously Psychic about it. Furthermore, I could see the word "Soul" being used for a Fighting badge. [[User:Alakazam17|Alakazam17]] 2:18, 28 November 2008
::::You make a valid point, but this is all really just specualtion. And I can see soul for fighting.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

But it's BS, so I erased it, considering Hitmonlee would need to bond with her telepathically--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 19:22, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

:So, I guess that Haunter must be removed as well then? I mean, if you want to remove [Hitmonlee] due to it not having a bond with her telepathically, then Haunter should also be removed due to the fact that it also isn't able to form a telepathic bond with it (It's a ghost/poison type, not a Psychic type.). [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:27, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

::::Not to mention that the badges in the background didn't have to fit the battles which Otoshi won. I mean, the fact that Marsh Badge was shown in the background when showing a battle with Hitmonlee doesn't have to mean that he was fighting Hitmonlee was for Marsh Badge. It could be a different battle. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 19:23, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

:::::Actually, the Volcano Badge Background matched perfectly (We do know that Blaine owns a Magmar.). Also, he was talking about how he had strived hard to get the badges, fought the gym leaders through huge trials, which also implies that the battle was indeed against Sabrina (and thus, the Hitmonlee was indeed hers.). If you don't want to list it as her pokemon, can we at least list it as "status unknown"? [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:26, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::I agree with Weedle. I mean, what's wrong in putting Hitmonlee as "status unknown". There is still a possibility it belongs to her since Magmar was also shown with the {{badge|Volcano}} in the very same flashback. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 02:22, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

:::::::Badges do not expire. Someone had to be the Gym Leader of Saffron City before her. That could have been the Fighting Dojo people, but we don't know for sure. What evidence do you have that Otoshi fought Sabrina for his Marsh Badge? None! That could have been anyone... her father, perhaps; maybe even Kiyo. We don't know if he even battled Sabrina or not, so there is not even enough proof to say that the Hitmonlee was her's to begin with. He could have faced any number of people with a Hitmonlee, it wasn't necesarily Sabrina, because they can't be Gym Leaders forever. Someone was before her...it isn't always going to be Sabrina handing out the Badge. Maylene started six months before Ash met her... Koga is no longer the gym leader for his gym... and Giovanni was no longer the leader either. It could have been someone else's. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 02:32, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

:::::::::Big difference, Saffron City had TWO Gyms (one was the Fighting Dojo), those GLs that you mentioned had either inherited the same gym [Maylene, Janine], or got promoted [Gary/Blue]. In the case of Sabrina, the Saffron Gym beat out the Fighting Dojo for the Position of becoming a Gym Leader (and since Gyms have different badges, the Fighting Dojo is bound to have a different badge as well.), so technically, She IS the first Gym Leader of the NEW Saffron Gym to have existed (the original gym, the Fighting Dojo, was beaten out.). [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 02:41, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

:How do you know that the Badge didn't just transfer over? If one beat out the other, they might have just taken the Fighting Dojo's badge, and used it for the Saffron Gym's. All we are doing is naming "ifs" and "buts" that aren't even true and are complete speculation. We have no proof what-so-ever that the Hitmonlee was her's. If it isn't true, it shouldn't be put in the article. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 02:47, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

::Because, theres far more badges in kanto than in the games (It ranges between 27 badges, and over 100 badges), In order to fit all of these badges into the region, there needs to be more than 100 towns (which, even for the Anime's expanded version of Kanto, that's too much for the region.), I mean, we already have 33 Towns (counting the in-game towns), and even then, two of these towns are actually already part of another town (HopHopHop town and Scissors Street are all districts of Celadon City), which would make 31 towns total. In order for these 100 badges to exist in all 31 known cities, they need to do repeats (meaning, there needs to be more than one official town in the anime.), so, that means that, in the Anime, The Fighting Dojo, has to have another badge from the Marsh Badge. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 03:05, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Since when do Gyms need to be in towns? They don't need to be in a town to be considered a gym. Just because all of the ones we know of are in cities and towns, doesn't mean they all are. Do you have any proof that they have to be? I do not think they have to, and that reasoning does not mean The Fighting Dojo ''has'' to have another badge from the Marsh Badge. Again, saying all these if statements doesn't get us anywhere. We have no proof that the Hitmonlee was hers, so it doesn't get to be in the article. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:20, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

::::For all we know, there'll be an official {{t|Dark}}-type gym located smack dab in the middle of Route 308 in the [[country]] wherever [[Generation V]] takes place. Sure, I don't think this whole "100 gyms in anime Kanto" is an accurate figure, but the possibility of gyms on highways always exists...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 04:43, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Seriously, no one is saying Hitmonlee does belong to Sabrina. Its just a possibility. It should be mentioned at least that Sabrina may have owned it. By making no mention of it, it's as if we know its 100% confirmed she doesn't have it. Since its not confirmed it should be in Status unknown. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 05:19, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

:Another thing, just because the Fighting Dojo was in the games does NOT mean that it's in the Anime. If I must point out, they never even once referred to a Saffron Dojo, never mind it's being beaten by Saffron Gym. Another thing, a gym does NOT use the same badge as another gym, plus the Marsh badge doesn't even refer to Fighting Pokemon, it's referring to Psychic Pokemon. And just because it's not a Psychic type does NOT mean that it can't belong to Sabrina. If I must remind you, Koga also owned several Voltorb, which definitely would not be Poison types fitting for the gym, and Blaine has a Rhydon, which isn't a fire type at all. The Viridian Gym only utilized one Rock/Ground combination in each battle (ok, technically, Rhydon is Ground/Rock, but still), with the rest of the pokemon being a Psychic type, two water types, a psychic type, and two poison types) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 02:47, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
:EDIT: ok, I guess there's Pasta La Vista Baby in regards to the Saffron Dojo, but they definitely never mentioned the whole issue involving them being defeated by Saffron Gym. In fact, one can argue that the Anime implies that it never was an official Gym in the first place.

== Sabrina as Evil? ==

Would you consider Sabrina to have been a temporary antagonist? [[User:DarkGiratina|DarkGiratina]] 19:13, 31 January 2009 (UTC)DarkGiratina
:In the anime? Wouldn't the same be true for all Gym Leaders, seeing as they stand in the way of Ash's goals? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 20:24, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::I think he's referring to the fact that Sabrina turned her mom and Ash's friends into dolls. But I don't think she qualifies as an antagonist. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

== Her hair is dark green? ==

According to her FR/LG offical art(which is a different color from her others),it doesn't look very greenish. I don't remember the name of the color,but it doesn't look greenish. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 02:42, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, what's with the statement that her "official" hair colour is dark green? The ONLY place I see her hair being green at all is in the anime. [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 09:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::It still doesn't look green. It seems like a mixture of blue and green, it's similar to game!Dawn's hair color(Navy blue) but lighter. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 02:37, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

== Fighting Dojo? ==

Why does it say Fighting Dojo on her HG/SS battle team? --[[User:Jono R|Jono R]] 12:00, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
:Because that's where all Gym Leader rematches take place in HGSS. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 17:16, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
--- Ahh, I've not had a rematch. lol, don't understand japanese so It's easier in platinum where their are certain Gym Leaders in the battle place without any requirements like phone numbers. --[[User:Jono R|Jono R]] 08:41, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Keith (Ranger)

2009-11-13T16:20:09Z

Jono R: Created page with 'There's another Keith in Pokemon Ranger, one of the Fall City Rangers is called Keith. Worth a mention. --~~~~'

There's another Keith in Pokemon Ranger, one of the Fall City Rangers is called Keith. Worth a mention. --[[User:Jono R|Jono R]] 16:20, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Go-Rock Quads

2009-11-11T15:53:28Z

Jono R: added mention of a line in Shadows of Almia about them correcting someone.

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===Tiffany===
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'''Tiffany''' ('''ミライ''' ''Mirai'') is the only female sibling. Her favorite activity is shopping in [[Fall City]] where she makes her brothers or the grunts of the Go-Rock Squad carry her purchases. She was put in charge of searching for [[legendary Pokémon]] in the [[Krokka Tunnel]], so she blocked the entrance with rocks, making [[Aria]] and the character arrive to clear the rocks. Aria soon left and the character beat all the grunts while clearing the rockfalls and then faced off against Tiffany, who summoned one {{p|Camerupt}} with a violin styler to try to beat the character. Then {{OBP|Spenser|Ranger}} arrived and Tiffany fled. The second time the player encounters her she is in the Go-Rock Squad's main base and battles the player again, still with her favorite Pokémon, two {{p|Camerupt}}.

===Clyde===
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'''Clyde''' ('''ヨウジ''' ''Yōji'') is a very "cool" person that likes to "stay with the trends" and is always hip and popular. Despite this, he oftentimes comes across as very lazy. He is put in charge of guarding the [[Jungle Relic]] while Gordor captures {{P|Entei}}. When the player meets him, he has just defeated [[Aria]] and battles the player with a {{P|Slaking}},summoned by playing his instrument, a drum that appears to be of the 'ashiko' variety. When the player defeats him, he lets the player battle Gordor. The second time the player faces him, in the Go-Rock Squad main base, he has a {{p|Slakoth}}, {{p|Vigoroth}} and {{P|Slaking}}.

===Garret===
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'''Garret''' ('''ユウキ''' ''Yūki'') is a smooth, polite person that can "Put people down with the simplest of words". He is left to watch over the [[Dusk Factory]] in the seventh numbered mission of the game while it creates the new Power Stylers. When you meet him he uses a {{p|Scizor}} (summoned by a bass guitar) to try to defeat the player but to no avail. When the player meets him in the Go-Rock Base his Scizor is joined by two {{p|Scyther}}.

===Billy===
[[Image:Image56.jpg‎|thumb|right|Billy|130px]]
'''Billy''' ('''ヤライ''' ''Yarai'') is the eldest and assumed leader of the four. He is clever and comes up with all of their plans. He is not faced until his siblings have been defeated a second time in the [[Go-Rock Squad Base]] and when that happens he gets very angry and attacks with more ferocity than all of the others. Billy uses a {{p|Larvitar}}, {{p|Pupitar}} and {{p|Tyranitar}} that he, like Garret, summons with a guitar of some sort.

==History==
After Billy is defeated, the Go-Rock Quads leave the Go-Rock Squad in shame and concentrate on their musical act. They do one last performance under the Joy Clock Tower before leaving Fiore to bring their music to distant lands.

The Go-Rock Quads also appeared in {{g|Ranger: Shadows of Almia}} as performers for Altru's seventieth anniversary. They are first seen rehearsing at [[Altru Park]] but are disrupted by [[Blake Hall]] at one time. Clyde storms out of the park first to think of a new song to replace the horrible song ''Dream Energy'' by Blake Hall (effectively providing some character development as well). He goes to Brook's grandmother and hears a [[The King of Almia and the Three Princes|folktale]]. He then comes up with the song ''The Song of Vatonage'' and returns to the group at the park. They reappear there once [[Team Dim Sun]] takes over [[Altru Tower]] and make their final appearance performing outside the tower during the last scenes of the game.

==Motto==
Each time the Go-Rock Quads appear in the game, they recite a musical motto as an introduction:

<ab>All: Pokémon a go-go!
Garret: Even if you're in a hurry, stop in your tracks!
(Garret has bass solo)
Tiffany: Open your ears to our melodic attacks!
(Tiffany's violin solo)
Clyde: The rhythm of rage pounds the ground!
(Bongo solo)
Billy: Let the melody of ambition rise to the skies!
(Guitar solo)
All: If you don't know us, we'll cure your ignorance!
Billy! Garret! Clyde! Tiffany!
The Go-Rock Squad's hot prospect band
of key-shaker-and-taker celebrities!
A name once heard and never forgotten!
The Go-Rock Quads!
(All play at once and confetti comes down)</ab>

In [[Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia]], Billy, Garret and Tiffany perform a new motto in [[Altru Park]] during one of their rehearsals based on the old one. Clyde is absent for this performance, as he is off searching for a new song to replace ''Dream Energy''.

<ab>All: Pokémon a go-go!
Garret: From across the sea, the Fiore-born quadruplets have arrived!
Tiffany: If you know us, you're a beloved fan! You knew us as a criminal quartet then!
Billy: But that's all in the past! We've had a change of heart and direction! We've transformed into purveyors of theatrical rock!
All: What's the name of our band?! Go-Rock Quads! We can't hear you! Go-Rock Quads!! Don't be shy! Shout it, loud and proud! GO-ROCK QUADS!!!
Tiffany: The quadruplet family band, Go-Rock Quads! Four is the magic number for any band!
Billy: Four instead of three! Four rather than five!
(violin solo)
(bass solo)
(guitar solo)</ab>

==Trivia==
* The way the four of them recite their motto every time they are encountered is somewhat similar to [[Jessie]] and [[James]] of [[Team Rocket]] in the {{pkmn|anime}}.
* In Pokemon Ranger Shadows of Almia, one of the audience members calls them the Go-Rock Squad which they are fast to correct. Possibly showing that they're no longer part of them and wish to be treated that way

{{Ranger 2 NPC}}

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Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 5

2009-11-08T22:50:00Z

Jono R: /* Telepathic side of Aura and Pikachu */ new section

<big><big><big>ASH'S AGE IS INDETERMINATE! AS OF EPISODE 1, HE IS 10 AS FAR AS IT'S KNOWN! PLEASE DO NOT POST ABOUT IT!</big></big></big>
== Previous discussions ==
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
__TOC__

== Ash's Gible... ==

Look, I tried to insert it in because it's fact that he's getting one. If it was just people talking on the forum, then I could let it stay off. However, we have had a Yahoo Japanese Shopping Catalogue AND Amazon.com explicitly refer to a Gible Toy that's being released as being "Ash's Gible". THAT'S why it needs to be in this article's trivia section, if anywhere. Don't believe me? Check these out:

1. http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/mizota/100700793.html
2. http://www.serebiiforums.com/showpost.php?p=10540887&postcount=1
3. http://www.amazon.co.jp/バンダイ-ポケットモンスター-キメわざポケモンキッズDP4-BOX-食玩/dp/B002QQ7C4I

Ok, so technically, number two was a forum post, but it supplied the translation of what #1 said. For number 3, here's the Japanese Text:

商品紹介
ポケモンがわざを繰り出す瞬間を立�� 化した『キメわざポケモンキッズ』D Pシリーズ第4弾。幻のポケモンの「アルセウス」「ジラーチ」を中心にル�� ー・サファイヤの初期ポケモンであ� ��「キモリ」「アチャモ」「ミズゴロウ」もラインナップ。さらにサトシ�� 新たなる仲間のポケモンとなる「フ� ��マル」をラインナップしている。（全15種類）

Also, Babelfish did a translation on the last portion of the sentence, and here's what it said:

"Furthermore it becomes [pokemon] of the companion where [satoshi] becomes new “[fukamaru]” is lined up. (All the 15 types)"

[[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 19:47, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:Remeber.....Wait until it happens! [[User:ShinyPikachu/Petition|Never Give Up]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 19:48, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::How do you know that the catalog didn't see the title of [[DP145]] and automatically assumed Ash was going to capture Gible? I wouldn't be surprised. And these stupid websites take forever to update their information. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 19:53, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Simple, they said "by the end of the year". If they were referring to DP145, they wouldn't have said "by the end of the year" (By the end of the year implies that it would happen by the last week of December, not in the middle of September). [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 19:56, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::::End of the year doesn't always mean the last week of December. Sometimes it can mean the beginning of Fall. The episode aired October 1st. They saw the air date and just said "the end of the year". And for all I know, it's not an accurate translation. It's best to keep this off the pages. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:01, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::Weedle, we can't be 100% sure of anything. It's not fact, it's speculation. It might happen. It might not happen. Not to mention, even if it's true, it's a spoiler. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 20:10, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

== Regarding the section about Ash as a character ==
Much of it is convoluted and poorly constructed. The problem appears to be that new contributions are not seamlessly integrated with those already in place, resulting in a lack of observable rhyme or reason. This hinders the flow of the writing, making the entire segment sub-par.

Bulbapedia has standards for a reason, and it is to avoid something like this happening as the result of numerous individuals contributing to one article. As it stands, I feel the entire section should be cleaned up and revised. [[User:Vipera|Vipera]] 21:16, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
:I Agree. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 22:34, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::Go on then. Show us what you're made of ;) —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:34, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Forgive me if I misinterpreted the tone of your comment, but I read it as being awfully snide.

:::I've already done some minor stylistic and grammatical revision to the section in question and plan to overhaul it using the information already present, but that's about all I can do. I'm not as knowledgeable about Ash as most others here since I'm only up to EP224 and therefore hesitant to make contributions in the form of information - I would likely be mistaken on many subjects since my anime experience is incomplete at best and woefully lacking at the very worst.

:::The appeal of a wiki lies in the fact that multiple users can contribute to a single article in numerous ways, as each brings to the table different skill sets and areas of expertise. That is why I've called attention to this issue. I can't make the necessary improvements alone. [[User:Vipera|Vipera]] 06:27, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Uh, sorry. I didn't mean it like that and I don't consider myself to be a "snide" person. I was merely trying to encourage you to be bold and take on the section. I know less about the anime than you do, otherwise I'd offer help as well. One of the things I enjoy about a wiki is going out and editing something, and watching how others adapt and improve my own work. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:36, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

== Telepathic side of Aura and Pikachu ==

I was thinking, is it possible that Ash was using Latent Aura powers to understand Pikachu? I know it wasn't invented till gen 4, but it's something to mention as a possibility. --[[User:Jono R|Jono R]] 22:50, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Sabrina

2009-11-08T12:00:46Z

Jono R: /* Fighting Dojo? */

2008-10-12T20:43:39Z

Jono R:

Mira's Kadabra is at 26 on Platinum, I presume it's the same on D/P. If not, then it is anyway on Platinum. [[User:Jono R|Jono R]] 20:41, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Mira

2008-10-12T20:41:07Z

Jono R: New page: Mira's Kadabra is at 26 on Platinum, I presume it's the same on D/P ~~~~

Mira's Kadabra is at 26 on Platinum, I presume it's the same on D/P [[User:Jono R|Jono R]] 20:41, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Mira

2008-10-12T15:15:52Z

Jono R: /* Wayward Cave */

{{CharacterInfobox|
name=Mira |
jname=ミル |
tmname=Miru |
slogan=no |
image=[[Image:Mira.jpg|140px]] |
caption=Art from Pokémon Diamond and Pearl |
gender=Female |
hometown=Unknown |
region=[[Sinnoh]] |
relatives=Grandmother ([[anime]]) |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]] |
game=yes |
generation=[[Generation IV|IV]] |
games=[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond]], [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Pearl]], and {{v2|Platinum}} |
leader=no |
anime=yes |
epnum=DP047 |
epname=Sandshrew's Locker! |
enva=Rena Mandel |
java=Satomi Arai |
}}
'''Mira''' (Japanese: '''ミル''' ''Miru'') is a [[Pokémon trainer]] from [[Sinnoh]].

==In the anime==
[[Image:Mira_anime.PNG|thumb|left|Mira in the anime]]
Mira appears in [[DP047|''Sandshrew's Locker!'']] near [[Hearthome City]]. She was voiced by 新井里美 ''Satomi Arai'' in Japanese and Rena Mandel in English. Wanting to use {{an|Dawn}}'s {{t|Water}} [[Pokémon]] for her own purposes, she offers to {{m|teleport}} everyone to Hearthome using her {{p|Abra}}. However, she teleports them to a flooded city and tells them her grandmother's pendant was lost in the newly-flooded lake. Everyone goes diving to recover the pendant but is repelled by a wild {{p|Gyarados}}. After another confession, Mira explains that actually the [[Poké Ball]] containing a {{p|Sandshrew}} she and her friends used to play with was left at the school when the town was flooded for the dam. {{Ash}} has [[Ash's Pikachu|Pikachu]] defeat the wild Gyarados, and Mira is reunited with her Sandshrew. In thanks, she has her Abra teleport everyone to Hearthome City.

===Pokémon===
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=175px cellspacing="0"
| align=center | [[Image:063.png]] {{p|Abra}}
| align=center | [[Image:027.png]] {{p|Sandshrew}}
|}

==In the games==
Mira is one of five trainers who can join with the main character during an event in [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl]]. Later, she can join the player in competition at Sinnoh's [[Battle Tower (Sinnoh)|Battle Tower]]. She first appears in the [[Wayward Cave]]. She got lost inside looking for Pokémon and needs to be escorted out. Mira says she prefers using support moves like {{m|Flash}}.

===Pokémon===
====Wayward Cave====
{{Team|
|#1=[[Image:064.png]]
|Poke1={{p|Kadabra}}
|LV1=Lv. 26
|G1=♂
|HI1=?
|M1P1={{m|Shock Wave}}
|M2P1={{m|Kinesis}}
|M3P1={{m|Confusion}}
|M4P1={{m|Flash}}

|#2=
|Poke2=
|LV2=
|G2=
|HI2=
|M1P2=
|M2P2=
|M3P2=
|M4P2=

|#3=
|Poke3=
|LV3=
|G3=
|HI3=
|M1P3=
|M2P3=
|M3P3=
|M4P3=

|#4=
|Poke4=
|LV4=
|G4=
|HI4=
|M1P4=
|M2P4=
|M3P4=
|M4P4=

|#5=
|Poke5=
|LV5=
|G5=
|HI5=
|M1P5=
|M2P5=
|M3P5=
|M4P5=

|#6=
|Poke6=
|LV6=
|G6=
|HI6=
|M1P6=
|M2P6=
|M3P6=
|M4P6=
}}

===={{si|Battle Tower}}====
In the battle tower, Mira seems to like Pokémon with a high {{stat|Special Attack}}, as well as tricky support moves. She could be seen with:
*{{p|Alakazam}}
*{{p|Exeggutor}}
*{{p|Gengar}}
*{{p|Zapdos}}
*{{p|Espeon}}
*{{p|Gardevoir}}
*{{p|Latias}}
*{{p|Latios}}
*{{p|Roserade}}
*{{p|Magnezone}}
*{{p|Magmortar}}
*{{p|Togekiss}}
*{{p|Glaceon}}
*{{p|Porygon-Z}}

====[[Match Place]]====
[[Image:MiraPlatinum.gif|right|thumb|Mira's sprite in Platinum.]]
{{Team|
|#1=[[Image:065.png]]
|Poke1={{p|Alakazam}}
|LV1=Lv. 65
|G1=♂
|HI1=
|M1P1={{m|Focus Blast}}
|M2P1={{m|Calm Mind}}
|M3P1={{m|--}}
|M4P1={{m|--}}

|#2=[[Image:468.png]]
|Poke2={{p|Togekiss}}
|LV2=Lv. 63
|G2=♂
|HI2=
|M1P2={{m|Aura Sphere}}
|M2P2={{m|--}}
|M3P2={{m|--}}
|M4P2={{m|--}}

|#3=[[Image:094.png]]
|Poke3={{p|Gengar}}
|LV3=Lv. 61
|G3=♀
|HI3=
|M1P3={{m|--}}
|M2P3={{m|--}}
|M3P3={{m|--}}
|M4P3={{m|--}}

|#4=[[Image:462.png]]
|Poke4={{p|Magnezone}}
|LV4=Lv. 61
|G4=
|HI4=
|M1P4={{m|Flash Cannon}}
|M2P4={{m|--}}
|M3P4={{m|--}}
|M4P4={{m|--}}

|#5=[[Image:474.png]]
|Poke5={{p|Porygon-Z}}
|LV5=Lv. 61
|G5=
|HI5=
|M1P5={{m|--}}
|M2P5={{m|--}}
|M3P5={{m|--}}
|M4P5={{m|--}}
}}

==Trivia==

* In the original {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}} artwork of Mira, her hair is similar to that of the {{pkmn|anime}}'s [[Nurse Joy]]s; however, this is a darker color in newer art and sprites.

==Name Origin==
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|-
|Japanese
| ミル ''Miru''
| 海松, a type of seaweed.
|-
|English
| Mira
| Sounds similar to ''Miru''.
|-
|French
| Maïté
| From ''maïs'', maize.
|-
|German
| Orisa
| From ''Oryza'', the scientific name of rice.
|-
|Italian
| Matilde
| From ''malto'', malt.
|-
|Spanish
| Maiza
| From ''maíz'', maize.
|-
|Korean
| 미루 ''Miru''
| Same as Japanese name.
|-
|Chinese (Taiwan)
|小麥 ''Xiǎo Maì''
|麥 means wheat.
|}

{{Sinnoh NPCs}}
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