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Talk:Mega Evolution/Archive 1

2014-03-13T03:24:52Z

Ikarishipper900:

==Ampharos==
This article implies they retconned Ampharos to Dragon-type. As far as I know, he's not; it's the MegaAmpharos who has the Dragon-type... [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 14:55, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
:Oops, didn't notice it. Only if you had reported this 3 minutes ago... [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''The''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''Original''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''One''']] 14:57, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

== mega evolution ==
Please add that, A new area called the Master Tower is related to Mega Evolutions. --[[User:Viv|Viv]] ([[User talk:Viv|talk]]) 15:19, 9 August 2013 (UTC) add this

== Should the abilities be added? ==

In the chart on the page, should the abilities of the mega evolved formes be added? [[User:MrBananaMan212|MrBananaMan212]] ([[User talk:MrBananaMan212|talk]]) 17:35, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

:IMHO yes, at least for abilities confirmed different from the species's regular Ability. That would include:
:* {{a|Adaptability}} for Mega Lucario
:* {{a|Insomnia}} for Mega Mewtwo

:Whether or not to include Mega Blaziken/Mawile/Ampharos/Absol is still a matter of debate. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 04:49, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
::I'm uncomfortable with adding Abilities because we don't know if it will be their only Ability, or if their Hidden Ability will be different. I think the info needs to be there, we just need to be careful about it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:22, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

== Korean name for Mega Evolution ==

For the sake of completeness.... its Korean name is 메가진화 ''Mega {{tt|Jinhwa|Evolution}}''.
* No analysis needed. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 17:50, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

== Request for minor edits... ==

The aspect ratio on Lucario's image seems to be off (Firefox reports it as being scaled up to 150x227, correct size 150x138). Can someone fix that? I'm not sure what to look for in the markup, and of course, the page is currently locked. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 04:53, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
:I think it's like that because the picture got updated today. It should fix itself soon enough. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 04:59, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
:: ''*reloads image*'' I see. Much better. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 03:04, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Um.. I think all of the normal and mega Pokemon's images have been warped by the table. --[[User:Ziggyangelo88|Ziggyangelo88]] ([[User talk:Ziggyangelo88|talk]]) 19:10, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
:No, that's happening to all Pokemon articles on all pages. The staff are updating Pokemon images to make them square so they can be used for something (not yet identified) in the future. For now, they appear as though the old images were stretched into the new dimensions. In time, the new images will properly sync and replace them. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:19, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

== Mega Evolution Physiology ==

Should we add the appearance of the Mega Evolution forms to the Physiology section of the pages of the Pokemon that have them? [[User:Vienna Waltz|Vienna Waltz]] ([[User talk:Vienna Waltz|talk]]) 06:05, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
:I think that's a good idea. The Pokémon probably don't need completely separate articles since it's closer to fore changes than actual evolution. [[User:Reign|Reign]] ([[User talk:Reign|talk]]) 20:05, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
::We can do it like how we did the Kami trio's forme difference physiology. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 20:09, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

== Individual Articles ==

If there's a page for Mega Evolutions, why do the individual Pokemon articles aside from Mewtwo not mention their new forms? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 01:05, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
:We have to make an extreme amount of modifications to our existing tables and infoboxes in order to accommodate Mega Evolutions. Although we try to be as current and up to date as possible, we also want to only have to mess with the coding for high use templates as few of times as possible, as the wiki will have to force itself to update every single page using the templates, thus causing the site to slow down. We're waiting a little bit to work out all the final kinks to these before implementing them. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:51, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
::Fair enough, but couldn't even a mention and link to the article be made in the intro paragraph? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 05:03, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
::I will never understand this site's policies... [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 19:21, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Totally agree. It sometimes seems on wikis (not just this one), that things that would be an easy fix, at least temporarily, until the permanent thing is decided upon are not done, leaving the wiki with outdated information, which will only turn away those who are looking for it, and they will go to other places instead. Furthermore, even though wikis are supposed to be "community encyclopedias", it often seems the mods have all the power in deciding how and when things are to be done, even if several regular users express the wish for things to be different. (Again not talking just about Bulbapedia). I just tell myself it will be fixed eventually, and if things still aren't right, the pages will eventually get unlocked, and I can fix it then. [[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] ([[User talk:CoolDudeAl|talk]]) 14:45, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
:Maybe everything could be working with just a few workarounds, but there is a reason why we are not using them. Previously, there hasn't been a Pokémon who could evolve two times and then temporarily evolve a third time just for battle and revert back its final evolution afterwards. Because of that, the templates were never originally programmed to support more than what was already needed since there was no point in doing so at the time, in addition to potentially and unnecessarily slowing down the wiki if it was added to the template. This is why we are currently waiting on the updated templates. We don't want to treat the Mega Evolutions like they are just a form change, especially for those who do have a form change already present in the games. Not to mention that we want to have everything looking nice and in a way that doesn't cause interference with other parts of the wiki. Templates can be coded to do events that they normally would not have to do, such as adding an article to a category if a specific value is true or passes a certain limit. The Pokémon articles rely heavily on this so that the information can be easily added, confirmed, and automatically replaced if there is an issue or mistake. In addition, Archaic is the webmaster of the site and is in charge with keeping the site running efficiently. After him are the other Webmasters, Werdnae as the Editor-in-Chief, the Editorial Board, the Bureaucrats, and so on. Likely, the members of the staff had to make a decision when the Mega Evolution were revealed to keep all the articles as close as possible as to how they were until the PokémonInfobox template could be updated to support everything that we now know. That way, everything could be tested and corrected before the games were release and it would be checked to prevent interference with other parts of the wiki. So, I would assume that when October comes around, the new PokémonInfobox template should already be up and running, which is the goal since we want everything running before the games come out. Hopefully, this will be able to explain what is going on in the background and why things are proceeding as they are. :) --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 17:24, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

== More Megas ==

Today the Pokemon website officially released Mega Ampharos, Mega Mawile and Mega Absol. Now could we update their pictures to these instead of the blurry corocoro scans please. --[[User:Ziggyangelo88|Ziggyangelo88]] ([[User talk:Ziggyangelo88|talk]]) 05:31, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
:They are updated. It takes time for them to update on Bulbapedia. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 05:36, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

== DNA Rainbow ==

Shouldn't it be noted that the rainbow colored shape above a Pokemon's head while it mega evolves is the same symbol found on the Japanese logo for X and Y? --[[User:Ziggyangelo88|Ziggyangelo88]] ([[User talk:Ziggyangelo88|talk]]) 07:40, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
:: The DNA symbol you speak of is the Mega Stone. [[User:Zeta|Zeta]] ([[User talk:Zeta|talk]]) 07:42, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

== Height/weight ==

You may also note that MegaEvo can change {{tt|height and/or weight|Even though it either doesn't change anything, changes both, or changes only weight; no Mega with known weight and height has changed only height}} of the Pokémon. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 07:51, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

== Images ==

While I know Serebii is widely considered a fansite, he ''does'' have some new images of the Mega [http://serebii.net/xy/megaampharos.png Ampharos], [http://serebii.net/xy/megamawile.png Mawile], and [http://serebii.net/xy/megaabsol.png Absol] that are better than the scans. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 15:56, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
:The high quality artwork of the Mega Evolutions has already been uploaded to the archives, it only takes some time for Bulbapedia's system to recognize the image changes and display the latest version, thus why you still see the low quality scans. It usually takes a couple of days before the correct versions (the high quality artwork) is shown. ☼ Blazing[[User talk:Blazingfist|Fist ☼]] 16:01, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
::It appears that images will update when their size is changed, so I made a minor change to the image sizes.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 16:10, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
:::Aha, I see them now. Though, on the topic, I think [http://serebii.net/xy/megakangaskhan.jpg this] might be a better image for Mega Kangaskhan. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 17:26, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
::::That's hosted by Serebii; we're not allowed to use his stuff. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:43, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
:::::Ah, well nevermind then. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 18:45, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

== Original Ability ==

Could you put the primary abilities that the Pokemon has before the mega evolution to show how it changes. --[[User:Ziggyangelo88|Ziggyangelo88]] ([[User talk:Ziggyangelo88|talk]]) 09:26, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
:We don't know how having a Hidden Ability affects the change, so they will not be put up right now. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:28, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

== mega evolution seem similar to something else? ==
Hey not sure if this was the right place to mention this or not, but as a long time fan of Pokemon AND digimon, I cant help but draw similarities between mega evolution, and digivolution from the digimon anime. I only mention this as a matter of curiosity. In the digimon anime, a digimon would digivolve to a higher form during battle, before reverting to they're original form after the battle had ended. I just thought the similarity was worth noting.[[User:Silverfin007|Silverfin007]] ([[User talk:Silverfin007|talk]]) 14:55, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
:It's most likely just a coincidence. They're similar concepts, you know? So unless it's officially stated by Game Freak, that theory should be ignored here, with a possible discussion just on [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net the forums] [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''オリ''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''ジ''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''ナル''']] TheOriginalOne 15:02, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

And if it was intentional, Toei Animation would probably sue Nintendo for plagiarism. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 15:25, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

:It's also similar to characters from Dragonball Z going Super-Saiyan. There's all sorts of things that it could be compared to. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] ([[User talk:Legionaireb|talk]]) 05:32, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

== Mega Evolving ==

As we now know that Mega Evolution occurs when a Pokémon able to Mega Evolve holds a Mega Stone and a specific button is pressed on-screen during battle, as proved yesterday on the Pokémon Game Show demo version of Pokémon X and y, in a photo that was taken, where the in-battle button was showcased. Should the text that states - "In order to undergo a Mega Evolution, the Pokémon must be holding the applicable Mega Stone, and meet a currently unspecified other condition." not be changed to "In order to undergo a Mega Evolution, the Pokémon must be holding the applicable Mega Stone, and the player must select the Mega Evolution button whilst in battle."--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 20:57, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
:No. That was a demo. There is nothing saying that it happens like that in the full game. For all we know, the condition is that it has to be unlocked. I don't think that pressing a button counts as a "condition." [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 21:19, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
::I agree, there could be more requirements and restrictions that need to be uncovered first. With something like that it wouldn't surprise me. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 00:13, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
:::OK, thank you. {{unsigned|ShinyPatch}}

== Demo Mewtwo ==

Has anyone actually gone to the "Pokémon" menu after obtaining the Mewtwo in the demo to see what its Mega Stone is? If they would check its stats to see any increases afterwards, that'd be nice too. I can't seem to find anyone who has, but it seems like it'd be pretty simple to do. For the purposes of getting as much info as possible, perhaps someone with access to a demo who sees this message will give it a try? --[[User:GoldenSandslash15|GoldenSandslash15]] ([[User talk:GoldenSandslash15|talk]]) 22:19, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
:The demos were only playable during Pokemon Game Show, an event that ended several days ago. I suppose it's worth looking at when the English demo is available at PAX Prime (Aug. 30 to Sept. 2). Basically, I'm trying to tell you, don't hold your breath: if anyone even can do so, it'll take more than a week before they get the opportunity. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 22:24, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
You'd think someone would have thought to look this info up when playing the demos. Then again, the demos are bare bone so you likely don't have the option to look at a Pokémon's states. Although, someone could have at least figured out Sylveon's type match up to some extent. Is anyone on the Bulbapedia staff attending the american event? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:59, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
:: In [http://youtu.be/5g4c7n6WUO8 this video] of the demo, found on Serebii.Net, the player is given access to the "Pokémon" menu, but the player never does so after obtaining the Mewtwo. --[[User:GoldenSandslash15|GoldenSandslash15]] ([[User talk:GoldenSandslash15|talk]]) 07:47, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
:::Okay, I don't exactly have a GOOD source, but according to one user on GameFAQs (again, this isn't at all reliable), the "Summary" option is missing from the Pokémon that you select in your party. So it isn't viewable, if this guy is telling the truth. --[[User:GoldenSandslash15|GoldenSandslash15]] ([[User talk:GoldenSandslash15|talk]]) 21:40, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
::::We'll keep a look out for that and see about adding it once a better source comes along. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 21:48, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

== Same thing with Mega Garchomp ==

As I stated for Mega Mewtwo X, I also meant the same for Mega Garchomp

[[User:The Seeker|The Seeker]] ([[User talk:The Seeker|talk]]) 20:58, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
:What are you talking about? What did you state? This is the first time you've posted on this talk page. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:37, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

== Pictures for Mega Mewtwo X and Mega Garchomp need replacements ==

I don't think my previous comment made it through since someone deleted it. I'm inquiring as the title says. The official Pokemon X & Y website has better resolution pictures of Mega Mewtwo X and Mega Garchomp that could be .PNG files. I believe the staff member working on this page can take those pictures and put them in this page for Mega Mewtwo X and Mega Garchomp [[User:The Seeker|The Seeker]] ([[User talk:The Seeker|talk]]) 17:57, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
:They've already been updated in the archives. Bulbapedia takes time to update when that happens. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 17:58, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
::Also, as you can see from the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mega_Evolution&action=history page history], you never made a previous comment in the first place. We've been having server errors lately, so it's likely that's why you think you made a comment but it does not exist. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:12, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

== Individual articles for each Mega evolution ==

Should we create individual articles for each Mega Evolution? Since they aren't simple "form changes" like Giratina, Shaymin and Keldeo etc, but a type of evolution, should we treat them as evolutions or should we just put every information on their respective un-Mega Evolved articles? I personally think they could be viable for their own articles if one were to use an altered version of the regular Pokemon pages (like maybe removing sections like Learnsets etc). [[User:Angela-Samshi|Angela-Samshi]] ([[User talk:Angela-Samshi|talk]]) 19:39, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
:I don't think they need their own articles. They really are pretty similar to form changes since they're afaik once a battle and only last in battle. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 19:47, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
::Mega Evolutions are just powered up versions of already existing Pokemon. They are not their own separate species and don't need their own articles. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 20:31, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
:::I think they should at least have illustrated sub-sections in the Pokémon's articles, since some Mega Evolutions have abilities different from even their Hidden Ability (like Mega Venusaur having Thick Fat), as well as different stats and specs. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 22:05, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
::::We are dealing with that. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 22:13, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

== Link template? ==

Could a link template similar to {{template|Shiny}} or {{template|Shadow}} be created for Mega Pokémon? If possible, I would make make the template look like

<nowiki>[[Mega Evolution|Mega]]{{#if:{{{1|}}}| {{p|{{{1|}}}}}}}</nowiki>

The "1" parameter optional so it could be used on Anime episode articles. What do you guys think? - [[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]] 13:01, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

== Might be helpful... ==

It was confirmed that there would be no Kalos mega evolutions, meaning not all starters will get to mega envolve. I'm new dont yell.
[[User:HoennRemake|HoennRemake]] ([[User talk:HoennRemake|talk]]) 14:57, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
:* Do you have a link to a source confirming that? Also, people won't yell at you here very often, at the most we will just be really blunt. Comes with the territory of weeding out fan-speculation from the actual facts, as that's what this site tries to focus on. And some people do believe that something that is obvious to them, but not officially confirmed to be true, can pass as a fact; when there is always a chance they can be wrong, but I digress. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 21:06, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
::It's from a interview with Masuda. I'll have to try to find a link. Not sure if it needs to be noted however. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 21:07, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
:::Thank you! X-D Was wondering where that was mentioned, this is what happens when I try to rely on the news page here for my source of updates. LOL ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 21:11, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
thanks funktastic for backing me up! [[User:HoennRemake|HoennRemake]] ([[User talk:HoennRemake|talk]]) 21:13, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
::Torpoleon posted [http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=212598 this] on [[Pokémon Professor]]. It's what you're looking for. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 21:26, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
::*Good, thanks. That's all I needed. It now is just a matter of the admins getting the time to add this, but I think they will do that once they get a few more things figured out, including any template updates, 'cause I hear they are trying to sort that out with the way things are changing with the games. (Makes sense, sprites will be replaced with 3D models...maybe, at least for [[Generation VI]] and [[Mega Evolutions]] might have to be implemented somehow, IDK. That's what I think they are gonna have to sort out along with other stuff.) ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 21:48, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

== "Pokémon that Mega Evolve" Category? ==

*This might be a bit premature, but seeing that not all Pokémon Mega Evolve, should there be a category for all the ones that do? Just a suggestion as well. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 17:40, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
:Well, I personally think there should be a category like that, it'd be very useful. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 01:54, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

== I don't know how to upload pics here... ==
So plz someone who knows, add [http://i.imgur.com/1huQrYY.jpg this] to the article [[User:Sandubadear|Sandubadear]] ([[User talk:Sandubadear|talk]]) 01:53, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

== Misleading information ==

In the paragraph saying that in online battles and the Battle Maison the opponent's Pokemon gets to move first it a false statement. I always lead with my Mega Blastoise there and more often than not out speeds its opponents unless the opposing Pokemon is faster. Also I have watch some wifi battles posted on Youtube and have seen Mega Evolutions move before the opponent.

I think this may need to be changed. --[[User:Zdude0127|Zdude0127]] ([[User talk:Zdude0127|talk]]) 05:05, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

== 100 BST increase? ==

Alakazam's page claims that Alakazam has a BST of 500, but Mega Alakazam has only 590. Assuming that page is correct, this one isn't. Ampharos also goes from 500 to 610. Those are the only exceptions, so it's entirely possible that there was an error calculating them, but I dunno. --[[User:WyndFox|Wynd]] [[User talk:WyndFox|Fox]] 05:41, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

== Pictures ==

A lot of the Mega Evolutions on this page don't have a picture/sprite for them. Can someone please put them in? [[User:Functioning Blaziken|Functioning Blaziken]] ([[User talk:Functioning Blaziken|talk]]) 15:21, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
:For what it's worth, those are missing because official art for them hasn't yet been released, so we don't have any. I don't know why we aren't using screenshots, but that's why there's no artwork for them, at least. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:13, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

== Mega Shinys ==

Has anyone tried mega-evolving a Shiny Pokemon yet? I'm very interested in knowing what happens with that. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] ([[User talk:Legionaireb|talk]]) 05:33, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
:Yep, Mega Evolutions have their own shiny palettes. Shiny Mega Charizard X, for example, is aqua with red wings. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:37, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
::Garchomp is pink/purple, Gengar is white, Banette's the same as regular shiny Banette. Those are the ones that come to mind. I don't think I've seen the others. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 05:47, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Would it be worth putting these into the table to show the shiny forms as well as the normal forms?--[[User:Ditto51|Ditto51/Tom]] ([[User_Talk:Ditto51|My Talk Page]]) 19:03, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
:Not at all. Beyond perhaps mentioning that shinies Mega Evolve shiny, shininess is entirely irrelevant to Mega Evolution. If someone really wants to know what a Mega Pokemon looks like shiny, they can look at the Pokemon's page (...once we get Gen VI sprites/whatever, that is). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:14, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

== Ability of Pokémon before Mega Evolution ==

We should really have a column in the "Before Mega Evolution" section with the Pokémon's standard in-game abilities listed at the least. [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] ([[User talk:Dialgafan1|talk]]) 18:17, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

== Template suggestion ==

I know we've been avoiding treating Mega Evolution like "evolution" per se, since it's only in-battle, but even form changes — including only-in-battle ones like {{p|Castform}}'s — have their forms listed in the "evolution" template above their sprite galleries. Would it not be prudent to include Mega Evolutions in these templates, with ↔ instead of → and with "Mega Evolution" instead of "first evolution" or "second evolution"? And once we get all the Mega Stone images, we could use those for the icons. Is this a good idea? If not, shouldn't we remove forms like Castform's from the evolution template? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 22:11, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==

Is it worth noting that Charizard and Mewtwo are the only Pokémon to receive more than one Mega Form? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 19:45, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
:No. Since there are more than one of them, there isn't an "only". [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 20:05, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
::I meant as in the only Pokémon to currently have two or more Mega Forms available to them. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 15:50, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
:: And he meant that since there are more than one that using the word "only" is incorrect. With how few Pokémon can Mega Evolve, there being more than one that can do something makes it not notable. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 16:04, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

== Something unique about Mega Blaziken ==

Is it trivia worthy to note that Blaziken is the only Pokémon that gained a Mega Evolution and is not found in any of the Kalos Pokédexes? --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 23:42, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
:Given that there's apparently Mega Latias/Latios just waiting to be revealed, I would say no. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 23:46, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
::On the other hand, the article notes Mewtwo is the only Legendary who can Mega Evolve. I guess since the Lati@s Megas haven't been revealed yet? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 00:01, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

== This Article is Incomplete??? Also Rest and Sleep Talk work normally ==

Ok, Maybe its real early here and I can't get my English reading skills up to par, but what the heck is being asked in that Diglet banner?

Also, in case my reading of it was correct, I just taught my Lucario rest and Sleep Talk, and they both work normally. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 15:05, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
:The banner appears to say that we don't know if Sleeping or Frozen Pokémon can Mega-Evolve, and if they can't, if Sleep Talk or Snore would allow a sleeping Pokémon to do so. --[[User:WyndFox|Wynd]] [[User talk:WyndFox|Fox]] 18:56, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
::I know for a fact Paralysis and Sleep has no effect on preventing Mega Evolution. I'm not sure about frozen Pokémon, but the article already states that status ailments have no effect on mega evolution. Also you can choose to Mega Evolve and select the move Sleep talk and it will work as normal. So I think the banner should be taken down. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:50, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==

Is it worth noting that even though mega evolution was introduced in X/Y, none of the new pokemon introduced in those games can mega-evolve?
[[User:Pmawhorter|Pmawhorter]] ([[User talk:Pmawhorter|talk]]) 17:21, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
: Didn't someone say in an interview that this was deliberate, so they didn't end up designing fully evolved Pokemon that felt incomplete? That might be worth mentioning. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 15:39, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

== Mega Pokémon Sprites ==

I was just on the list of Pokémon by base stats page and noticed that Mega Evolved Pokémon are using their normal form's sprite instead of the Mega Evolution's sprite. Have the Mega Evolution sprites been uploaded yet? Shouldn't the articles use these sprites instead of the normal one, after all there is a sprite for each of Deoxys' forms. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:04, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

== Mega Latias & Mega Latios ==

I was just wondering, has Mega Latias and Mega Latios been confirmed? I don't think they have, unless I missed something (which is possible). I know Diance has been confirmed, but like one person asked on Diance's page if the other 2 rumored legends are basically confirmed cause Diance was, should a page be created for them and they said no not until confirmation, would't the same apply to Mega Latias and Mega Latios. Again, unless I missed something, shouldn't they not be on here? Demers-Vachon 06:51, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

admin decision. action replay cheats. plenty of trustworthy people have the lati@site hence why they're under "unreleased". hoopa and volcanion remain unconfirmed until a similar situation happens. --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 07:59, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Ah ok, I was just wondering, thanks for answering back! :-) Demers-Vachon 11:17, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

== Mega evolution table ==

Could we change the 'X color' in the Mega Evolution table to 'X color light?' I think it'd be a little easier on the eyes. '''[[User:FireGambit|FireGambit]]''' ([[User talk:FireGambit|talk]]) 15:41, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

== Original Abilities (again) ==

I know this has been brought up several times already, but is there some reason at this point the original abilities aren't in the table? The original concern seems to have been uncertainty as to how HAs interacted but it seems pretty sorted that they don't, so... [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] ([[User talk:Ikarishipper900|talk]]) 03:24, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Ghost (type)

2014-02-22T16:14:13Z

Ikarishipper900:

== Trivia ==
Trivia section currently states: "Ghost and Psychic are the only two types that are weak to the same types: Ghost and Dark. "
I could understand that in two ways, and both are wrong (I guess, that's why I try to discuss it here)
1 - They are the only types who share all their weaknesses. That would be wrong, since Psychic is weak to Bug, and Ghost is not.
2 - They are the only two types who share more than one weakness. Also wrong, since, for instance, Ground and Rock are weak against Grass and Water.
If I misunderstood it, please let me know. Or if anyone agrees, I'd be glad to see I'm not useless ;) [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] 22:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:it didn't say that they share ''all'' the same weaknesses [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 22:50, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
::Ok, but it says they are the '''only two types''' that are weak to the same types. So, they aren't the '''only''' because there are others who share same weaknesses [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] 22:55, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:::That trivia, and some other icky ones, have been removed now. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 23:02, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

About immunities:
*''Disregarding abilities, Drifloon, Drifblim, Sableye and Spiritomb are the only Pokémon so far to be immune to three types...''
Also, counting abilities, another Ghost type, {{p|Shedinja}} has the most immunities (12).
Please add this with better words...--[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 12:32, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Neutrality ==

I am questioning the neutrality of the characteristics section. It is very biased towards ghost types. I would add the template, but I am... unskilled. [[User:Sidnoea|Sidnoea]] 01:33, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

== Type Combo ==
I think it should be worth noting that if a Normal/Ghost type is ever introduced, it would be the only Pokémon immune to both it's types. {{unsigned|Chaos Theory}}
:There isn't one though, and writing hypothetically opens up so many cans of worms. Until a Normal/Ghost Pokémon is created, you can keep that thought in your head. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:39, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

== Quick Question ==
I could have sworn playing RBY that Psychic moves do 2x damage on Ghost Pokemon. Am I completely misguided here? --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 05:59, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
:They do, but only because {{tt|all Ghost-types in gen I|i.e. the Gastly line}} were part {{type|Poison}}. The Ghost type itself takes neutral damage from Psychic type attacks. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:53, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

== Ghost in G1 ==
Should it be mentioned that even if Ghost-type had been effective against Psychic-type in Generation 1, it would've been largely academic because the only Ghost-type attack that was affected by types, Lick, was very weak, and since all Ghost-type Pokémon in G1 were dual-typed Poison and thus weak to Psychic attacks, using a Ghost Pokémon against a Psychic Pokémon would've been a bad idea anyway? [[User:Shigmiya64|Shigmiya64]] 12:43, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:Nope. Too nitpicky. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 12:45, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
::I think it's an interesting tidbit, and isn't that the point of the Trivia section? Certainly more interesting, IMO, than Torchic being the only Fire-type starter whose English name doesn't start with C. [[User:Shigmiya64|Shigmiya64]] 12:04, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
:::So you're saying that using a Gengar against an Exeggcute would be a bad idea? Not all of it is based on type. Stats are also a variable in a battle. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 12:14, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
::::It's still too nitpicky. Because it's coming at a stance of the view of the modern type effectiveness. If the only games we had were R/B/Y right now, nobody would even know why that would have mattered at all. And it really doesn't. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 12:43, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

== Weak to Psychic? ==

This page says that Ghosts were weak to Psychic in Generation I. The [[Type chart]] page says otherwise (NOTE: look at the ''second'' type chart; the first is only valid for later generations). Of course, all of the Ghosts in the first gen actually ''were'', in fact, weak to Psychic, but that's at least partially because they were all also Poison-types (if this page is true, they'd have had a double-weakness and have taken 4x damage in the first gen.) Which page is correct? --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 10:21, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

== What's wrong with it? ==

I'm sorry I don't know how to use the image from this website. And I'm sorry for my poor English.--[[User:847418742|847418742]] 11:49, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

{{redlink|File:Wrongwithghost.jpg}}

:Fixed your image link. Use <code><nowiki>[[File:'''name of file here''']]</nowiki></code> next time.
:I got rid of the rowspan (Giratina spanning two rows) because table sorting (the http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/skins/common/images/sort_none.gif icon) gets broken. ~ [[User:Ribose|Ribose]] · [[User talk:Ribose|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Ribose|cntr]] · 17:34, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

== Immunities ==

I really believe that should be noted the fact that ghost type Pokémon are the Pokemon with most immunities among all kinds, as well most of ghost type Pokemon (being actually 18 from 27) having 3 immunities, and shedinja's case: the only Pokemon with 12 immunities. {{unsigned|Pippilong}}

== I would like do add this line, can I add? ==

''Ghost-type Pokémon such as {{p|Dusknoir}} and {{p|Cofagrigus}} are good to use as defensive Pokémon, because of their high defenses and ability to inflict status ailments and use support moves. However, their resistances are of little use: {{t|Poison}} and {{t|Bug}} are types rarely used offensively, and {{t|Dark}} is very commonly used offensively. But is quite useful to be immune to {{t|Fighting}} and {{t|Normal}}-type attacks. Moreover, it's very common for Ghost-type Pokémon to be immune to {{t|Ground}}, due to {{a|Levitate}}. This gives them immunity to three of the most powerful types offensively.''

I don't like how the Defense section only "talks" about the {{t|Ghost}}/{{t|Dark}} combination and not about only the Ghost type. [[User:Dark Fallen Angel|Dark Fallen Angel]] ([[User talk:Dark Fallen Angel|talk]]) 12:54, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
:Normal is actually one of the worst types offensively, but other than that it is fine.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 13:03, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

:I'm actually going to disagree here. I wouldn't add it. Reason being, Bulbapedia is ''not'' a strategy guide. We try to avoid editorial comments on how specific Pokémon should be used, etc., because that falls to Smogon and others. Also, in the future, feel free to simply add a line; if we don't like it, we'll remove it. --[[User:Politoed666|''P'' ''o'']] [[User talk:Politoed666|''L'' ''i'']] 13:05, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

::One more comment. You'll notice that what already exists there in the ''Offense'' and ''Defense'' sections is pure fact. This addition would be a breach of that. Part of the reason it doesn't talk much about the Ghost type is because most of what you can say about it that isn't obvious is subjective. --[[User:Politoed666|''P'' ''o'']] [[User talk:Politoed666|''L'' ''i'']] 13:07, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

:::I understand, I won't add this. [[User:Dark Fallen Angel|Dark Fallen Angel]] ([[User talk:Dark Fallen Angel|talk]]) 13:14, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

== PBR ==

Why doesn't Ghost-type moves affect Psychic-type Pokémon in PBR? --[[User:PenblooeR|PenblooeR]] 23:37, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
:What Ghost-type move was used and what Pokémon was the target? What move did the target Pokemon use that turn? [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:01, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

== Book with wrong information? ==

I have a poster that came from a handbook on ghost types, and it erroneously states that the Gastly line is pure ghost type. The poster is hung up on my wall but I can't find the book. Does anybody know which book it came from? Because I feel like that'd be a good thing to add to the trivia. I don't know, but if I can find the book I'll post its name. --[[User:Maddiesapphire|Maddiesapphire]] ([[User talk:Maddiesapphire|talk]]) 20:19, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

== Most important Trivia ever ==

Ghost is the only type which hasn't a first Evolution who evolves further at or above a Level.

I'm surprised you didn't notice this,it' more worthy like than other sentences.[[User:Rajjoaby|Rajjoaby]] ([[User talk:Rajjoaby|talk]]) 08:24, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
:Maybe notable... maybe. The only Fighting-type who are all {{type|Fighting}} on all 3 stages evolve via level and then trade ({{p|Machop}} and {{p|Timburr}} families), while the only two to level up for every stage are the Fire starters which are initially a pure {{type|Fire}}. All other types don't have that problem, there is at least one family who evolves twice via level and has that type through all 3 stages (obviously discounting the mentioned above {{type|Ghost}}). [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 09:20, 4 May 2013 (UTC) PS. Normal - {{p|Pidgey}}; {{p|Pidove}}; {{p|Starly}}... Fighting - you know, Flying - many Normal/Flying which also account for the Normal-type part... Poison - {{p|Bulbasaur}}, Ground - {{p|Sandile}}, Rock - {{p|Aron}}, Bug - {{p|Caterpie}}, {{p|Weedle}}... Ghost - nope, as you pointed out, Steel - {{p|Klink}}, Fire/Water/Grass - starters, Electric - {{p|Mareep}}, Psychic - {{p|Solosis}}, Ice - {{p|Vanillite}}, Dragon - {{p|Dratini}}, {{p|Gible}}, {{p|Salamence}}... Dark - {{p|Deino}}. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 09:25, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
The first Evolution fire-fighting Starters are at least secondary Fighting,that's sufficiently,it's not necessary that the whole family is that type,my thoughts aren't family based.My point is that NOT ANY Ghost type(whether pure,primary or secondary) First Evolution evolves by Level.[[User:Rajjoaby|Rajjoaby]] ([[User talk:Rajjoaby|talk]]) 11:05, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

== Greater than 80 base power? ==

I don't understand why this is notable trivia, as this is something that a person can plainly see on their own. [[User:Slkr95|Slkr95]] ([[User talk:Slkr95|talk]]) 04:54, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

== Trivia Notice ==

Some trivia I came up with.

All dual-type with Ghost (and their evolutionary line) are [[List of Pokémon with unique type combinations|unique]]. For example, [[Rotom]] is the only Ghost/Electric-type. Or [[Gastly]]/[[Haunter]]/[[Gengar]] are the only Ghost/Poison-type.

[[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 17:40, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
:Not true. Spiritomb and Sableye. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 18:20, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

:: Oh. I thought that it counts as different since one's dark-ghost and the other's ghost-dark. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 02:21, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

==Ghost/Dark==
Is now weak to fairy, on account of Fairy being neutral against ghost and super effective on dark.[[User:Aquaslash|Aquaslash]] ([[User talk:Aquaslash|talk]]) 08:39, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

==Trivia again==
"There are no pure Ghost-type Pokémon that evolve into a dual-type Pokémon."

Is there any point in noting this? Ghost isn't the only type this happens with, at least not the way it's worded right now. There's not really anything notable about it. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] ([[User talk:Ikarishipper900|talk]]) 16:14, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Shelgon (Pokémon)

2013-11-18T17:32:08Z

Ikarishipper900: /* Trivia */

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Bagon | next=Salamence | prevnum=371 | nextnum=373 | type=dragon}}
{{Pokémon Infobox |
name=Shelgon |
jname=コモルー |
tmname=Komoruu |
ndex=372 |
hdex=188 |
karea=Coastal |
kdex=015 |
fbrow=166 |
abrow=226 |
obrow=220 |
opbrow=201 |
typebox=1 |
type1=Dragon |
species=Endurance |
height-ftin=3'07" |
height-m=1.1 |
weight-lbs=243.6 |
weight-kg=110.5 |
abilityn=d |
ability1=Rock Head |
abilityd=Overcoat |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Dragon |
eggcycles=41 |
evtotal=2 |
evde=2 |
expyield=147 |
oldexp=144 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gendercode=127 |
color=White |
catchrate=45 |
body=08 |
pokefordex=shelgon |
generation=3 |
friendship=35 |
}}
'''Shelgon''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''コモルー''' ''Komoruu'') is a {{type|Dragon}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Bagon}} starting at [[level]] 30 and evolves into {{p|Salamence}} starting at level 50.

==Biology==
Shelgon is a quadruped Pokémon that resembles a pupal stage. There bone structures covering its body, which form a shell with two openings and three ridges on top. One opening is in front, revealing two yellow eyes, while the other opening is in the back. This bony covering repels enemy attacks, but it makes Shelgon heavy. As a result, this Pokémon moves sluggishly and hardly eats. Inside the shell, its body is busy forming for its next evolution. The moment this Pokémon evolves, its shell peels away. Its grey legs are visible protruding from underneath the shell, each with a short red stripe on the inner surface. It can be found in {{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Rough-terrain Pokémon|caverns.}}

==In the anime==
[[File:Michelle Shelgon.png|thumb|220px|left|Shelgon in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
Shelgon was first seen when a Bagon evolved in ''[[AG043|Let Bagons Be Bagons]]''.

{{EF|Drake}} used a Shelgon in ''[[AG101|Vanity Affair]]''. It defeated {{AP|Pikachu}}.

===Minor appearances===
A Shelgon competed in the [[Hoenn Grand Festival]] in ''[[AG121|Hi Ho Silver Wind!]]'' and ''[[AG122|Deceit and Assist]]''.

==In the manga==
[[File:Drake Shelgon Adventures.png|thumb|left|110px|Shelgon in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
In [[Pokémon Adventures]], {{EF|Drake}} uses a Shelgon in an attempt to break open the door of the [[Ancient Tomb]] containing {{DL|Brandon's Regis|In the Pokémon Adventures manga|Registeel}}.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Shelgon (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=dragon
|gen=3
|rubydex=Inside Shelgon's armor-like shell, cells are in the midst of transformation to create an entirely new body. This Pokémon's shell is extremely heavy, making its movements sluggish.
|sapphiredex=Covering Shelgon's body are outgrowths much like bones. The shell is very hard and bounces off enemy attacks. When awaiting evolution, this Pokémon hides away in a cavern.
|emeralddex=It hardly eats while it awaits [[evolution]]. It becomes hardier by enduring hunger. Its shell peels off the instant it begins to evolve.
|frlgdex=Its armored body makes all attacks bounce off. The armor is too tough, however, making it heavy and somewhat sluggish.
|dpptdex=Within its rugged shell, its cells have begun changing. The shell peels off the instant it evolves.
|hgssdex=It surrounds its body in an iron-hard shell to accumulate enough power to evolve.
|bwdex=Within its rugged shell, its cells have begun changing. The shell peels off the instant it evolves.
|b2w2dex=Within its rugged shell, its cells have begun changing. The shell peels off the instant it evolves.
|xdex=Within its rugged shell, its cells have begun changing. The shell peels off the instant it evolves.
|ydex=Its armored body makes all attacks bounce off. The armor is too tough, however, making it heavy and somewhat sluggish.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=dragon |
gen=3 |
rsarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Bagon}} |
earea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Bagon}} |
frlgex=rse|
dparea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Bagon}} |
gen4ex=pearl|
ptarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Bagon}} |
hgssrarity=Rare|
hgssarea=[[Johto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]] |
palarea=Mountain |
bwrarity=None |
bwarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Bagon}} |
gen5ex=white |
b2w2rarity=None |
b2w2area=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Bagon}} |
xyarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Bagon}} |
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=Dragon
|pinballrs=Cave
|trozei=Endless Level 59 Endless Level 61 Forever Level 9 [[Mr. Who's Den]]
|md=[[Mt. Freeze]] (1F-6F) [[Wish Cave]] (65F-69F) [[Wyvern Hill]] (9F-16F) [[Joyous Tower]] (60F-64F)
|md2=[[Sky Stairway]] (1F-49F)
|ranger=[[Jungle Relic]] (during mission)
|ranger2=[[Volcano Cave]]
|ranger3=[[Faldera Volcano]] [[Dark Temple]]
|rumble2=Canyon: [[Sunny Seashore]]
|mdgti=[[Daybreak Ridge]], [[Ochre Quarry]], Magnagate dungeons, [[Freezing Pillar]], [[Windy Shoreline]], [[Jaws of the Abyss]], [[Rusty Mountain]] (Golden Chamber), [[Smoking Mountain]] (Mapless Street and Golden Chamber)
}}

===Held items===
{{HeldItems
|type=Dragon
|hgss1=Dragon Fang|hgsst1type=Type-enhancing item|hgss1rar=5
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=dragon |
HP= 65 |
Attack= 95 |
Defense=100 |
SpAtk= 60 |
SpDef= 50 |
Speed= 50 }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Dragon
|Speed=2
|SpeedMax=2
|Power=4
|PowerMax=5
|Technique=1
|TechniqueMax=2
|Stamina=4
|StaminaMax=5
|Jump=2
|JumpMax=2
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=dragon|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric= 50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 200 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy= 200}}

===Learnset===
====By [[level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh|Shelgon|Dragon|Dragon|5|3}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Rage|Normal|Physical|20|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Bite|Dark|Physical|60|100|25}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Leer|Normal|Status|—|100|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Headbutt|Normal|Physical|70|100|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|5|Bite|Dark|Physical|60|100|25}}
{{learnlist/level5|10|Leer|Normal|Status|—|100|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|16|Headbutt|Normal|Physical|70|100|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|20|Focus Energy|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|25|Ember|Fire|Special|40|100|25}}
{{learnlist/level5|30|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|32|DragonBreath|Dragon|Special|60|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|37|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|43|Scary Face|Normal|Status|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|50|Crunch|Dark|Physical|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|55|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|61|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|120|100|15}}
{{learnlist/levelf|Shelgon|Dragon|Dragon|5|3}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Shelgon|Dragon|Dragon|5|3}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM01|Hone Claws|Dark|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM02|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM05|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM31|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM35|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|95|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM38|Fire Blast|Fire|Special|120|85|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM39|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM40|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20||''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM59|Incinerate|Fire|Special|30|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM65|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM80|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM94|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM01|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM04|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Shelgon|Dragon|Dragon|5|3}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh|Shelgon|Dragon|Dragon|5|3}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|004|Charmander}}{{MSP|005|Charmeleon}}{{MSP|006|Charizard}}{{MSP|372|Shelgon}}{{MSP|373|Salamence}}|Defense Curl|Normal|Status|—|—|40|||‡}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|116|Horsea}}{{MSP|117|Seadra}}{{MSP|230|Kingdra}}{{MSP|130|Gyarados}}{{MSP|147|Dratini}}{{MSP|148|Dragonair}} {{MSP|149|Dragonite}}{{MSP|334|Altaria}}{{MSP|610|Axew}}{{MSP|611|Fraxure}}{{MSP|612|Haxorus}}|Dragon Dance|Dragon|Status|—|—|20||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|116|Horsea}}{{MSP|117|Seadra}}{{MSP|230|Kingdra}}{{MSP|333|Swablu}}{{MSP|334|Altaria}}{{MSP|610|Axew}} {{MSP|611|Fraxure}}{{MSP|612|Haxorus}}{{MSP|633|Deino}}{{MSP|634|Zweilous}}{{MSP|635|Hydreigon}}|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|90|100|10||||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|004|Charmander}}{{MSP|005|Charmeleon}}{{MSP|006|Charizard}}{{MSP|130|Gyarados}}{{MSP|147|Dratini}}{{MSP|148|Dragonair}} {{MSP|149|Dragonite}}{{MSP|443|Gible}}{{MSP|444|Gabite}}{{MSP|445|Garchomp}}{{MSP|610|Axew}}{{MSP|611|Fraxure}} {{MSP|612|Haxorus}}{{MSP|621|Druddigon}}{{MSP|633|Deino}}{{MSP|634|Zweilous}}{{MSP|635|Hydreigon}}|Dragon Rage|Dragon|Special|—|100|10||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|147|Dratini}}{{MSP|148|Dragonair}}{{MSP|149|Dragonite}}{{MSP|443|Gible}}{{MSP|444|Gabite}}{{MSP|445|Garchomp}} {{MSP|633|Deino}}{{MSP|634|Zweilous}}{{MSP|635|Hydreigon}}|Dragon Rush|Dragon|Physical|100|75|10||||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|610|Axew}}{{MSP|611|Fraxure}}{{MSP|612|Haxorus}}|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||*}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|004|Charmander}}{{MSP|005|Charmeleon}}{{MSP|006|Charizard}}{{MSP|024|Arbok}}{{MSP|373|Salamence}}{{MSP|445|Garchomp}}|Fire Fang|Fire|Physical|65|95|15||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|116|Horsea}}{{MSP|117|Seadra}}{{MSP|230|Kingdra}}{{MSP|130|Gyarados}}{{MSP|350|Milotic}}|Hydro Pump|Water|Special|120|80|5||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|130|Gyarados}}|Thrash|Normal|Physical|120|100|10||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|116|Horsea}}{{MSP|117|Seadra}}{{MSP|230|Kingdra}}{{MSP|130|Gyarados}}{{MSP|147|Dratini}}{{MSP|148|Dragonair}} {{MSP|149|Dragonite}}{{MSP|350|Milotic}}|Twister|Dragon|Special|40|100|20||||'''}}{{learnlist/breedf|Shelgon|Dragon|Dragon|5|3}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh|Shelgon|dragon|dragon|5|3}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Special|140|90|5||'''|yes|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|90|100|10||'''|no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Hyper Voice|Normal|Special|90|100|10|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Iron Defense|Steel|Status|—|—|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|10||'''|no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Shelgon|dragon|dragon|5|3}}

====By a prior [[evolution]]====
{{Learnlist/prevoh|Shelgon|Dragon|Dragon|5|3}}
{{Learnlist/prevo5|371|Bagon|d||||Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|10|'''|BW}}
{{Learnlist/prevof|Shelgon|Dragon|Dragon|5|3}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=dragon |
ndex=372 |
pinballrs=Evolve |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=-19 |
area=Dragon Cave |
P1=Everything bounces off my armor! But it's awfully heavy! |
P2=Aww... Half my HP's gone already. |
P3=I can't take it... I'm too weak to move my body... |
PL=I leveled up! But I'm still way too heavy! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
group=Dragon |
field=Tackle |
fieldpower=2 |
loop=6 |
browser=Shelgon launches whirling attacks by cleverly spinning its sturdy body. |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=0.5 |
iq=E |
Ranger2=yes |
group2=Dragon |
assist2=Dragon |
field2=Tackle |
field2power=2 |
browser2=It breathes {{M|DragonBreath|blue flames}} and attacks while thrashing about. |
Ranger3=yes |
group3=Dragon|
assist3=Dragon |
field3=Tackle |
field3power=3 |
browser3=It attacks by launching a large blue fireball. |
rumble2=yes|
rumble2attack=3|
rumble2defense=3|
rumble2speed=3|
}}

===Evolution===
{{Evobox-3
|type1=Dragon
|pictype=art
|no1=371
|name1=Bagon
|type1-1=Dragon
|evo1={{bag|Rare Candy}} {{color2|000|Level|Level 30}}
|no2=372
|name2=Shelgon
|type1-2=Dragon
|evo2={{bag|Rare Candy}} {{color2|000|Level|Level 50}}
|no3=373
|name3=Salamence
|type1-3=Dragon
|type-3=Flying}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=dragon|
gen=3|
gender=none|
ndex=372|
name=Shelgon|
}}

==Trivia==
===Origin===
Shelgon is a based on a {{wp|dragon}} and a {{wp|pupa}}.

====Name origin====
Shelgon is a combination of ''shell'' and ''dragon''.

Komoruu is a corruption of 籠る ''komoru'' (to seclude oneself). It is worth noting that 龍 ''ryū'' (dragon) resembles part of the kanji for ''komoru''.

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=dragon|type2=dragon
|ja=コモルー ''Komoruu''|jameaning=From 籠る ''komoru'' (to seclude oneself) and 龍 ''ryū'' (dragon), which resembles part of the kanji for komoru.
|de=Draschel|demeaning=From ''{{tt|Drache|dragon}}'' and {{tt|''Schale''|shell}}
|fr=Drackhaus|frmeaning=From ''dragon'' and {{tt|''Haus''|German for ''house''}}
|es=Shelgon|esmeaning=Same as English name
|it=Shelgon|itmeaning=Same as English name
|ko=쉘곤 ''Swelgon''|komeaning=Transliteration of English name
|zh_cmn=甲殼龍 ''Jiá Kē Lóng''|zh_cmnmeaning=Literally "Shelled dragon".
}}
 

==External links==

{{PokémonPrevNextFoot | prev=Bagon | next=Salamence | prevnum=371 | nextnum=373 | type=dragon}}
{{-}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}

[[it:Shelgon]]
[[pt:Shelgon (pokémon)]]

[[de:Draschel]]
[[es:Shelgon]]
[[fr:Drackhaus]]
[[ja:コモルー]]
[[pl:Shelgon]]
[[zh:甲壳龙]]

Talk:Shelgon (Pokémon)

2013-11-18T17:31:51Z

Ikarishipper900: Created page with "== Trivia == "Shelgon has the highest Defense base stat of all non-legendary Dragon-type Pokémon." With Tyrantrum, this is no longer true. I've just deleted the bullet for no..."

== Trivia ==
"Shelgon has the highest Defense base stat of all non-legendary Dragon-type Pokémon." With Tyrantrum, this is no longer true. I've just deleted the bullet for now, but I wasn't sure if someone wanted to edit it with something more correct. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] ([[User talk:Ikarishipper900|talk]]) 17:31, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Serena (game)

2013-06-19T18:36:30Z

Ikarishipper900:

== "Prior to the release of Pokémon X and Y..." ==
FYI, X and Y isn't out yet. --[[User:Relicant|'''Reli'''★'''ジーランス''']]'''?''' 16:55, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
:*Guessing that should be removed or something? ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 18:51, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
I say hide it until X and Y are released, same with [[Calem (game)|Xavier]]. --[[User:Relicant|'''Reli'''★'''ジーランス''']]'''?''' 12:35, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

== Redirect ==
Can some kind of redirect get added for Serena without the (game)? I know there's actually a character of the day named Serena but I have a suspicion this page will be searched for a little bit more. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] ([[User talk:Ikarishipper900|talk]]) 18:36, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Cresselia (Pokémon)

2011-09-10T19:13:10Z

Ikarishipper900: Changed "it"s to feminine pronouns

{{PokémonPrevNext | type=psychic | prevnum=487 | nextnum=489 | prev=Giratina | next=Phione }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Cresselia |
jname=クレセリア |
tmname=Crecelia |
size=250px |
image=488Cresselia.png |
art=DP |
pron=<sc>cre-se-leeya</sc> |
ndex=488 |
abrow=254 |
typen=1 |
type1=Psychic |
type2= |
species=Lunar |
height-ftin=4'11" |
height-m=1.5 |
weight-lbs=188.7 |
weight-kg=85.6 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Levitate |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Undiscovered |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=120 |
evsd=3|
expyield=210 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gendercode=254|
color=Yellow |
catchrate=3 |
body= 14|
pokefordex=cresselia |
generation=4 |
footnotes= }}
'''Cresselia''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''クレセリア''' ''Crecelia'') is a {{type2|Psychic}} [[legendary Pokémon]].

She is not known to evolve into or from any other Pokémon.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Cresselia has a blue, swan-like body with a yellow underside, and two magenta tufts that form an arc across her chest. The yellow ornaments on the sides of her head give her head the appearance of a crescent moon. Cresselia also has glowing, pink, ring-like wings on her sides and back with paw like protrusions resting on Cresselia's chest.
====Gender differences====
Cresselia is a female-only species with no male counterpart, but rather a {{p|Darkrai|genderless counterpart}}.

====Special abilities====
Cresselia has the power to dispel nightmares, including ones induced by {{p|Darkrai}}, and in return induce pleasant dreams. She can also heal psychological scars if the sufferer looks at her. Some fans consider Cresselia to be the "{{wp|Sandman}}" of the Pokémon world.

Cresselia is the [[Signature move|only known Pokémon]] that learns {{m|Lunar Dance}}.

===Behavior===
She appears to be gentle, worrying for the ill and giving peace to those tormented by Darkrai. However, as seen in the [[Pokémon anime|anime]], she can be quite hostile towards her counterpart, Darkrai.
In [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness]], her opposition to {{mdc|Darkrai|2}} becomes clearly evident, with the story showing scenes of Cresselia chasing it.

===Habitat===
Cresselia lives at [[Fullmoon Island]]. She also travels around the [[Pokémon world]], dispelling the terrible nightmares others suffer and chasing Darkrai.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:Cresselia anime.png|right|thumb|250px|Cresselia in the anime]]
A Cresselia first appeared in a short {{wp|Cameo appearance|cameo}} in the beginning of ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''.

Cresselia made her debut appearance in the anime in ''[[DP104|Sleepless In Pre-Battle!]]''. Cresselia normally returns to her shrine on [[Fullmoon Island]] during a certain time of the year when a {{p|Darkrai}} also comes by to cause nightmares. She may also leave her [[Lunar Wing|feathers]], which people find to help stop the nightmares caused by Darkrai. In the episode, Cresselia helps {{Ash}} and the residents of [[Canalave City]] get better sleep by stopping Darkrai.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexbody|DP104|Cresselia|Dawn's Pokédex|Cresselia, the Lunar Pokémon. Shining particles are released from Cresselia's wings like a veil, and it is said to represent the crescent moon.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond & Pearl''|Sinnoh}}



==In the TCG==
{{main|Cresselia (TCG)}}

==Other appearances==
===Super Smash Bros. Brawl===
[[Image:SpearPillarCresselia.png|right|thumb|210px|Cresselia in Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]
Cresselia appears on the {{st|Spear Pillar}} stage as one of three Pokémon who appear in the center (the others being Dialga and Palkia). Cresselia acts completely different than the other two in terms of attacks she uses. She'll often shoot {{m|Psycho Cut}}s around the field, and sometimes shoot one large Psycho Cut as if it were a boomerang, hitting anyone that touches it.

====Trophy Information====
''A Lunar Pokémon. Cresselia appears on [[Fullmoon Island]] and, once discovered, flies around different areas of Sinnoh. Its signature [[move]], {{m|Lunar Dance}}, causes Cresselia to faint but recovers all the HP and cures the status conditions of the next Pokémon its Trainer sends out. Cresselia excels at recovery techniques and is unusual in that it appears only in female form.''

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
* [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness]]: Cresselia has made it her mission to foil {{mdc|Darkrai|2}}'s plot of plunging everyone in the world into an endless nightmare. After healing {{p|Azurill}} of his nightmare, she joins the player's team as a guest in [[Dark Crater]]. After defeating Darkrai, Cresselia will offer to officially join the team back at Sharpedo Bluff.
*[[Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia]]: Cresselia is the guardian of the {{DL|The King of Almia and the Three Princes|Yellow Gem}}.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=psychic
|gen=4
|dpdex=Shiny particles are released from its wings like a veil. It is said to represent the crescent moon.
|platinumdex=On nights around the quarter moon, the aurora from its tail extends and undulates beautifully.
|hgssdex=Those who sleep holding Cresselia's feather are assured of joyful dreams. It is said to represent the crescent moon.
|bwdex=On nights around the quarter moon, the aurora from its tail extends and undulates beautifully.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=psychic |
gen=4 |
dprarity=One |
dparea={{pkmn2|Roaming}} [[Sinnoh]] |
ptrarity=One |
ptarea={{pkmn2|Roaming}} [[Sinnoh]] |
hgssex=pal|
hgssarea=[[Trade]] |
gen5ex=none |
bwrarity=None |
bwarea=[[Poké Transfer]]
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=Psychic
|md2=[[Sharpedo Bluff]]
|ranger2=[[Hippowdon Temple]] (during mission)
|scramble=[[Silent Forest]]
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=psychic |
HP= 120 |
Attack= 70 |
Defense=120 |
SpAtk= 75 |
SpDef= 130 |
Speed= 85 }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Psychic
|Speed=2
|SpeedMax=4
|Power=2
|PowerMax=3
|Technique=3
|TechniqueMax=5
|Stamina=4
|StaminaMax=5
|Jump=4
|JumpMax=5
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{Type effectiveness|
type1=Psychic|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting= 50 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 200 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 50 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 200 |

notes=yes|
levitate=yes|
newground=1}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh|Cresselia|Psychic|Psychic|5|4}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Confusion|Psychic|Special|50|100|25||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|11|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25}}
{{learnlist/level5|20|Mist|Ice|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|29|Aurora Beam|Ice|Special|65|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|38|Future Sight|Psychic|Special|100|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|47|Slash|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|57|Moonlight|Normal|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|66|Psycho Cut|Psychic|Physical|70|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|75|Psycho Shift|Psychic|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|84|Lunar Dance|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|93|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf|Cresselia|Psychic|Psychic|5|4}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Cresselia|Psychic|Psychic|5|4}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM03|Psyshock|Psychic|Special|80|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM04|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM16|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM19|Telekinesis|Psychic|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM22|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM29|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM30|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM33|Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM53|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM57|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM68|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM70|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM73|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM85|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM86|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM92|Trick Room|Psychic|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Cresselia|Psychic|Psychic|5|4}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh|Cresselia|psychic|psychic|5|4}}
{{learnlist/breed5null}}
{{learnlist/breedf|Cresselia|psychic|psychic|5|4}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh|Cresselia|Psychic|Psychic|5|4}}
{{learnlist/tutor5null}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Cresselia|Psychic|Psychic|5|4}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=psychic |
ndex=488 |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=100 |
iq=H |
Ranger2=yes |
group2=Psychic |
assist2=Psychic |
field2=None |
field2power=- |
browser2=It lets loose strange orbs. It attacks by spitting orbs of psychic power. |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|sprite1=488
|name1=Cresselia
|type1-1=Psychic}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite
|ndex=488
|gen=4
|name=Cresselia
|type=psychic
}}

==Trivia==
* When Cresselia is encountered, the music is the same as an ordinary [[wild Pokémon]], instead of a [[legendary Pokémon]] theme. She shares this trait with {{p|Shaymin}}, {{p|Latias}}, and {{p|Latios}}.
* Cresselia can be seen as an [[legendary duo|opposite]] of {{p|Darkrai}}, as Darkrai causes nightmares, whereas Cresselia prevents them. Also, their islands are shaped and named opposite of each other, and their types are frequently considered opposites.
** Furthermore, in the TCG, one of the attacks on [[Darkrai (Great Encounters 3)|Darkrai 3/106 of Great Encounters]], Darkness Pursuit, has a base damage of 100 if Cresselia is the opposing Pokémon. Otherwise, it deals 50 damage.
* Cresselia is one of six legendary Pokémon that has a definite gender, the other five being {{P|Latias}} (a female-only species), {{P|Latios}} (a male-only species) and the [[Kami trio]] (whose members are all male-only species).
** All of these legendary Pokémon except {{P|Landorus}} appeared roaming around the region they debuted in.
* [[Tower Tycoon Palmer]], [[Cheryl]], and [[Buck]] all own a Cresselia; they use these at the {{si|Battle Tower}}.
* Cresselia's three main colors (pink, yellow and blue) are the same as the main colors of the [[Lake guardians]].
* Cresselia is the second Pokémon with information about it relating it to an aurora, the first being {{p|Deoxys}}.
** In Deoxys's case, it can project aurora-like light patterns, as shown in ''[[M07|Destiny Deoxys]]'', while in Cresselia's case, she can release aurora-like particles from her tail, and can learn {{m|Aurora Beam}}.
* Cresselia learns {{m|Psychic}} at the highest level of any Pokémon (93).
* Cresselia can be affected by {{m|Nightmare}} even though she has the power to drive away nightmares.
===Origin===
The general body shape of Cresselia seems to be based after a {{wp|swan}}. Her head is covered in crescent moon shapes and she wears many {{wp|aurora|aurora-colored}} {{wp|planetary ring}}s. These rings resemble {{wp|Rings of Saturn|Saturn's rings}}.
Cresselia shares characteristics with {{wp|Sarimanok}}, a mythical being who is usually depicted as a fowl with colorful wings and feathered tail. Sarimanok's head is profusely decorated and is said to be a symbol of good fortune. She also may be based on the {{wp|Alkonost}}, a female headed bird god who usually departs to society to warn it.

====Name origin====
Her name is derived from {{wp|Lunar phase|crescent}}, referring to a {{wp|phase of the moon}}. The ''selia'' in her name may be derived from {{wp|Selene}}, the Greek goddess of the Moon.

==In other languages==
{| align="left" class="roundy" style="border: 3px solid #{{psychic color dark}}; background: #{{psychic color}};"
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|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]
| 크레세리아 ''Cresceria''
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|- style="background:#FFF;"
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| 克雷色利亞 ''Kè Léi Sè Lì Yà''
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Chansey (Pokémon)

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Ikarishipper900: Changed "it"s to feminine pronouns

{{PokémonPrevNextHead | species=Chansey | prev=Rhydon | next=Tangela|type=normal|| prevnum=112| nextnum=114}}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Chansey |
jname=ラッキー |
tmname=Lucky |
art=FRLG |
size=210px |
pron=<sc>''chan''-see</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''. Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> |
ndex=113 |
oldjdex=217 |
jdex=222 |
hdex=277 |
sdex=097 |
typen=1 |
type1=Normal |
type2= |
species=Egg |
height-ftin=3'07" |
height-m=1.1 |
weight-lbs=76.3 |
weight-kg=34.6 |
abilityn=2 |
ability1=Natural Cure |
ability2=Serene Grace |
abilityd=Healer|
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Fairy |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=40|
evhp=2|
expyield=395 |
lv100exp=800,000 |
gendercode=254|
color=Pink |
catchrate=30 |
body=06 |
pokefordex=chansey |
generation=1 |
footnotes=}}
'''Chansey''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ラッキー''' ''Lucky'') is a {{type2|Normal}} Pokémon.

She [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Happiny}} when [[level]]ed up holding an {{evostone|Oval Stone}} during the day, and evolves into {{p|Blissey}} when [[level]]ed up with high [[happiness]].

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Chansey have pink, egg-shaped bodies. They have hair-like outgrowths on the side of their heads instead of a pigtail they had as a Happiny. Chansey have stubby limbs and has grown a short tail. Chansey's lower body is fully developed and they now have a pouch that holds an egg.

====Gender differences====
Chansey is a female-only species with no male counterpart.

====Special abilities====
Chansey, and her evolved form, {{p|Blissey}}, are the [[Signature move|only known Pokémon]] that can learn {{m|Softboiled}} by leveling up. However, {{p|Mew}} could learn it from a TM in [[Generation I]], while members of the {{p|Clefairy}} and {{p|Togepi}} families can be tutored the move in [[Generation III]].

===Behavior===
Extremely rare in the wild, Chansey is said to bring happiness and extremely good luck to those who are lucky enough to capture her. Chansey lays several eggs each day. The egg is extremely nutritious and tasty. A kind-hearted and charitable Pokémon, Chansey will share her eggs with injured Pokémon she may come across. However she will not share her egg with anyone who has evil in their heart.
Chansey walks carefully to protect her egg from damage but can be startlingly fast when she must run from danger.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Urban.gif|right|frame|{{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Urban Pokémon}}]]
Chansey are rarely seen in the wild. They are a common sight seen working at [[Pokémon Center]]s. Wild ones are said to exist in [[Kanto]] and [[Sinnoh]].

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:Brock Chansey.png|thumb|right|250px|Chansey in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
Throughout the anime, {{TP|Nurse Joy|Chansey}} is mainly seen working at [[Pokémon Center]]s. The first instance was in ''[[EP002|Pokémon Emergency!]]''.

In ''[[AG186|Overjoyed!]]'' a [[Nurse Joy]] uses a Chansey to defeat [[Ash's Corphish]] in battle.

In ''[[DP190|The Brockster Is In!]]'', {{an|Brock}}'s {{p|Happiny}} evolves into {{TP|Brock|Chansey}}.

===Minor appearances===
A Chansey was seen as one of [[Suzy]]'s clients in ''[[EP028|Pokémon Fashion Flash]]''.

A Chansey was also seen training with an unnamed trainer in ''[[EP073|Bad to the Bone]]''.

In ''[[AG163|Cutting the Ties that Bind]]'', {{FB|Palace Maven|Spenser}} had his Chansey heal [[Ash's Sceptile]] after he saved {{Ash}} from [[Team Rocket]].

A Chansey appeared in the [[boss fantasy]] of ''[[DP092|A Lean Mean Team Rocket Machine]]''.

[[Cheryl]] also owns a Chansey, which made appearances in ''[[DP030|Some Enchanted Sweetening]]'' and ''[[DP031|The Grass-Type is Always Greener!]]''.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexbody|DP190|Chansey|Dawn's Pokédex|Chansey, the Egg Pokémon, and the evolved form of {{p|Happiny}}. Chansey is a kind Pokémon who shares its egg with those who are sick or injured.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond & Pearl''|Sinnoh}}

==In the manga==
In [[Pokémon Adventures]], Chansey is seen as a Pokémon under the ownership of [[Daisy Oak]], which previously belonged to {{adv|Professor Oak|her grandfather}}.

[[Plum]] owns a {{MPJ|Chansey}} in [[Magical Pokémon Journey]].

==In the TCG==
{{main|Chansey (TCG)}}

==Other appearances==
===[[Super Smash Bros.]]===
Chansey will sometimes appear from the Silph Co. Building in Saffron City, and can also be released from a Poké Ball in which case she will shoot out eggs.

===[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]===
When released from a Poké Ball, Chansey will use {{m|Softboiled}} and produce five eggs. Anyone can pick them up and they will either slightly heal the holder or contain items. If attacked, Chansey can be knocked away, stopping egg production.

Chansey is also a Pokéfloat. The float will quickly bob up and down from the bottom of the screen four times.

====Trophy information====
Renowned for its kind temperament, Chansey has been known to offer injured creatures a highly nutritious egg to aid their recovery. Legend has it that this charitable creature brings happiness to anyone who captures a Chansey. All Chansey are female, and every now and then one is found in possession of a Lucky Egg.

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
*{{game|Yellow}}: Chansey appear in [[Pokémon Center]]s.
*[[Pokémon Stadium 2]]: Chansey stars in the mini-game "Egg Emergency". Players must catch the falling eggs, but avoid the {{p|Voltorb}}.
* [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness]]: Chansey runs the Chansey Day Care in [[Treasure Town]]. This is where the player can hatch their eggs received as a reward for missions.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=normal
|gen=1
|redbluedex=A rare and elusive Pokémon that is said to bring happiness to those who manage to get it.
|yellowdex=A gentle and kind-hearted Pokémon that shares its {{m|Softboiled|nutritious eggs}} if it sees an injured Pokémon.
|stadiumdex=Lays very succulent eggs every day. If it is treated with love and care, its eggs appear to become even more delicious.
|golddex=It walks carefully to prevent its egg from breaking. However, it is extremely fast at running away.
|silverdex=Few in numbers and difficult to capture, it is said to bring happiness to the trainer who catches it.
|crystaldex=People try to catch it for its extremely nutritious eggs, but it rarely can be found.
|stadium2dex=It walks carefully to prevent its egg from breaking. However, it is extremely fast at running away.
|rsdex=Chansey lays nutritionally excellent eggs on an everyday basis. The eggs are so delicious, they are easily and eagerly devoured by even those people who have lost their appetite.
|emeralddex=Chansey lay nutritionally excellent eggs every day. The eggs are so delicious, they are eagerly devoured by even those people who have lost their appetite.
|firereddex=It lays several eggs a day. The eggs are apparently rich in nutrients and extremely delicious.
|leafgreendex=A rare and elusive Pokémon that is said to bring happiness to those who manage to get it.
|diamonddex=It is said to deliver happiness. Being compassionate, it shares its eggs with injured people.
|pearldex=It lays several eggs a day and won't share them with those who have evil in their hearts.
|platinumdex=A kindly Pokémon that lays highly nutritious eggs and shares them with injured Pokémon or people.
|heartgolddex=It walks carefully to prevent its egg from breaking. However, it is extremely fast at running away.
|soulsilverdex=Being few in number and difficult to capture, it is said to bring happiness to the Trainer who catches it.
|bwdex=A kindly Pokémon that lays highly nutritious eggs and shares them with injured Pokémon or people.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=Normal |
gen=1 |
rbrarity=Uncommon |
rbarea=[[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]] and [[Cerulean Cave]] |
yrarity=Rare |
yarea=[[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]] and [[Cerulean Cave]] |
gsrarity=Rare |
gsarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|13|Kanto}}, {{rtn|14|Kanto}}, and {{rtn|15|Kanto}} |
crarity=Rare |
carea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|13|Kanto}}, {{rtn|14|Kanto}}, and {{rtn|15|Kanto}} |
gen3ex=frlg|
frlgrarity=Rare |
frlgarea=[[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]] |
xdrarity=One |
xdarea=[[Citadark Isle]] |
xdshadow=yes |
dprarity=Rare |
dparea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|209|Sinnoh}}, {{rtn|210|Sinnoh}} and [[Trophy Garden]] |
ptrarity=Rare |
ptarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|209|Sinnoh}}, {{rtn|210|Sinnoh}} and [[Trophy Garden]]|
hgssrarity=Rare |
hgssarea=[[Johto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]] and [[Route]]s {{rtn|13|Kanto}}, {{rtn|14|Kanto}}, and {{rtn|15|Kanto}} |
palarea=Field |
bwrarity=None |
bwarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Happiny}} |
gen5ex=white |
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=normal
|snap=[[Pokémon Island Beach|Beach]]
|channel=Upgrade binder
|pinball=[[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]]
|trozei=Secret Storage 15 Endless Level 18 Forever Level 18 [[Mr. Who's Den]]
|md=[[Joyous Tower]] (50F, 60F, 77F)
|md2=[[Happy Outlook]] (B1-B19)
|scramble=[[Silent Forest]]
}}

===Held items===
{{HeldItems
|type=normal
|rby1=Lucky Punch|rby1type=Stat-enhancing item|rby1rar=100
|gsc1=Lucky Egg|gsc1type=Experience-affecting item|gsc1rar=8
|rse1=Lucky Egg|rse1type=Experience-affecting item|rse1rar=5
|frlg1=Lucky Egg|frlg1type=Experience-affecting item|frlg1rar=5
|xd1=Lucky Punch|xd1type=Stat-enhancing item|xd1rar=100
|dppt1=Oval Stone|dppt1type=Evolution-inducing held item|dppt1rar=50
|dppt2=Lucky Egg|dppt2type=Experience-affecting item|dppt2rar=5
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats with RBY|
HP= 250 |
Attack= 5 |
Defense= 5 |
SpAtk= 35 |
SpDef= 105 |
Special=105 |
Speed= 50 |
type=Normal }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Normal
|Speed=2
|SpeedMax=3
|Power=1
|PowerMax=4
|Technique=1
|TechniqueMax=4
|Stamina=5
|StaminaMax=5
|Jump=3
|JumpMax=3
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{Type effectiveness|
type1=normal|
Normal= 100 |
Flying= 100 |
Fighting=200 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ghost= 0 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh|Chansey|Normal|Normal|5|1}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Defense Curl|Normal|Status|—|—|40||}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Pound|Normal|Physical|40|100|35||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Growl|Normal|Status|—|100|40||}}
{{learnlist/level5|5|Tail Whip|Normal|Status|—|100|30||}}
{{learnlist/level5|9|Refresh|Normal|Status|—|—|20||}}
{{learnlist/level5|12|DoubleSlap|Normal|Physical|15|85|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|16|Softboiled|Normal|Status|—|—|10||}}
{{learnlist/level5|20|Bestow|Normal|Status|—|—|15||}}
{{learnlist/level5|23|Minimize|Normal|Status|—|—|20||}}
{{learnlist/level5|27|Take Down|Normal|Physical|90|85|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|31|Sing|Normal|Status|—|55|15||}}
{{learnlist/level5|34|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10||}}
{{learnlist/level5|38|Heal Pulse|Psychic|Status|—|—|10||}}
{{learnlist/level5|42|Egg Bomb|Normal|Physical|100|75|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|46|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30||}}
{{learnlist/level5|50|Healing Wish|Psychic|Status|—|—|10||}}
{{learnlist/level5|54|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|120|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf|Chansey|Normal|Normal|5|1}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Chansey|Normal|Normal|5|1}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM04|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM07|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM14|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM16|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM22|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM24|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM25|Thunder|Electric|Special|120|70|10||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM26|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM29|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM30|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM31|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM35|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|95|100|15||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM37|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM38|Fire Blast|Fire|Special|120|85|5||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM39|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM49|Echoed Voice|Normal|Special|40|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM57|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM59|Incinerate|Fire|Special|30|100|15||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM67|Retaliate|Normal|Physical|70|100|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM68|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM70|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM73|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|20||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM78|Bulldoze|Ground|Physical|60|100|20||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM80|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM83|Work Up|Normal|Status|—|—|30||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM85|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM86|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM93|Wild Charge|Electric|Physical|90|100|15||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM94|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM04|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Chansey|Normal|Normal|5|1}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh|Chansey|Normal|Normal|5|1}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|315|Roselia}}{{MSP|407|Roserade}}|Aromatherapy|Grass|Status|—|—|5|Smart|0}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|286|Breloom}}|Counter|Fighting|Physical|—|100|20|Tough|2}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|417|Pachirisu}}|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|035|Clefairy}}{{MSP|036|Clefable}}|Gravity|Psychic|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|300|Skitty}}{{MSP|301|Delcatty}}|Heal Bell|Normal|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|0}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|311|Plusle}}{{MSP|312|Minun}}{{MSP|420|Cherubi}}{{MSP|421|Cherrim}}{{MSP|531|Audino}}{{MSP|546|Cottonee}} {{MSP|547|Whimsicott}}|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Smart|1}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|176|Togetic}}{{MSP|468|Togekiss}}{{MSP|311|Plusle}}{{MSP|417|Pachirisu}}{{MSP|531|Audino}}|Last Resort|Normal|Physical|140|100|5|||†|'''}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|035|Clefairy}}{{MSP|036|Clefable}}{{MSP|176|Togetic}}{{MSP|468|Togekiss}}|Metronome|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|2}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|300|Skitty}}{{MSP|301|Delcatty}}|Mud Bomb|Ground|Special|65|85|10|Smart|2|*}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|285|Shroomish}}{{MSP|286|Breloom}}{{MSP|315|Roselia}}{{MSP|407|Roserade}}{{MSP|420|Cherubi}}{{MSP|421|Cherrim}} {{MSP|546|Cottonee}}{{MSP|547|Whimsicott}}|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|||*}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|025|Pikachu}}{{MSP|026|Raichu}}{{MSP|035|Clefairy}}{{MSP|036|Clefable}}{{MSP|039|Jigglypuff}}{{MSP|040|Wigglytuff}} {{MSP|176|Togetic}}{{MSP|468|Togekiss}}{{MSP|183|Marill}}{{MSP|184|Azumarill}}{{MSP|209|Snubbull}}{{MSP|210|Granbull}}|Present|Normal|Physical|—|90|15|Cute|0|*|'''|}}{{learnlist/breedf|Chansey|Normal|Normal|5|1}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh|Chansey|normal|normal|5|1}}
{{learnlist/tutor5null}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Chansey|normal|normal|5|1}}

====By a prior [[evolution]]====
{{Learnlist/prevoh|Chansey|Normal|Normal|5|1}}
{{Learnlist/prevo5|440|Happiny|||||Charm|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{Learnlist/prevo5|440|Happiny|||||Copycat|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{Learnlist/prevo5|440|Happiny|||||Sweet Kiss|Normal|Status|—|75|10}}
{{Learnlist/prevof|Chansey|Normal|Normal|5|1}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=normal |
ndex=113 |
pinball=Catch |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Common |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=6.9 |
area=Sky Blue Plains |
P1=What is happiness? Can you tell me? Can you tell me? |
P2=Oh, my goodness, my HP has been lost by half... |
P3=Oh, no, no more... I feel faint... Help... |
PL=My level went up! Joyfully happy! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=no |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=6.9 |
iq=H |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|family=Incense
|sprite1=440
|name1=Happiny
|type1-1=Normal
|evotype1=Held
|held1=Oval Stone
|time1=Daytime
|incense=Luck Incense
|sprite2=113
|name2=Chansey
|type1-2=Normal
|evotype2=Happiness
|sprite3=242
|name3=Blissey
|type1-3=Normal}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=normal|
gen=1|
gender=none|
ndex=113|
name=Chansey|
}}

==Trivia==
* In the [[Pokémon Red and Green beta|Pokémon Red and Blue beta]], Chansey was originally known as "Lucky". This is, of course, her romanized Japanese name.
* Chansey has the highest base [[experience]] yield of all Pokémon, tied with her family ({{p|Happiny}} and {{p|Blissey}}) and {{p|Arceus}}.
* Chansey is one of five Pokémon that initially did not evolve into or from another Pokémon, but now is part of a three-stage evolutionary line (the other four being {{p|Electabuzz}}, {{p|Magmar}}, {{p|Porygon}} and {{p|Roselia}}). While Electabuzz and Magmar gained a pre-evolution in [[Generation II]] and an evolution in [[Generation IV]], Chansey did exactly the reverse in both generations.
** Chansey is the first Pokémon in National Pokédex order to be related by evolution to Pokémon from two different generations to her own.
* Chansey, and her evolution family, Blissey and Happiny, have the most in-game items associated with them. This includes: [[Lucky Punch]], [[Lucky Egg]], {{DL|Incense|Luck Incense}}, and the [[Oval Stone]].
* Chansey shares the same [[species]] name with {{p|Exeggcute}}. They are both known as the Egg Pokémon.
* In Generation II and beyond, when breeding was introduced, Chansey hatch from an egg with an egg already in their pouch. The same oddity occurs with {{p|Kangaskhan}}, which hatch with a baby in their pouches, and {{p|Happiny}}, which hatch with a rock in their pouches.
** Her {{v2|Platinum}} Pokédex entry states that she lays eggs, confirming that Pokémon are able to do so (as it has been mentioned that nobody has seen Pokémon lay eggs); however, these eggs are apparently not Happiny eggs, but eggs that are high in nutrition instead. Theoretically, these eggs could possibly be unfertilized Happiny eggs.

===Origin===
Her tendency to carry eggs in a pouch is very {{wp|monotreme}}- or {{wp|marsupial}}-like. She may also just be based on a general concept of females and motherhood. As her Pokédex entries mention her tendency to lay nutritious eggs everyday, Chansey may also be based on chickens or other poultry fowls.

====Name origin====
Chansey's name is a corruption of ''chance''; like her Japanese name, ''Lucky'', it seems to refer to Chansey's rarity.

==In other languages==
{| align="left" style="{{roundy}} border: 3px solid #{{normal color}}; background: #{{normal color}};"
|-
|
{| style="{{roundy}}" style="background: #{{normal color light}};"
|- align=center
! style="{{roundytl}}" | Language
! Name
! style="{{roundytr}}" | Name Origin
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[List of German Pokémon names|German]]
| Chaneira
|
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[List of French Pokémon names|French]]
| Leveinard
| From ''{{tt|Le veinard|"The lucky one"}}''.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]
| 럭키 ''Reokki''
| Transliteration of the English word ''Lucky''.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese (Taiwan)]]
| 吉利蛋 ''Jí Lì Dàn''
| "Lucky egg". References Chansey's Japanese name, Lucky.
|}
|-
|}
 

==Related articles==
* [[Nurse Joy's Chansey]]
* [[Chansey (MPJ)]]

==External links==

==Notes==
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Blissey (Pokémon)

2011-09-10T19:06:48Z

Ikarishipper900: /* Trivia */ Changed some "it"s to the female pronoun

{{PokémonPrevNextHead | species=Blissey | prev=Miltank | next=Raikou|type=normal|| prevnum=241| nextnum=243}}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Blissey |
jname=ハピナス |
tmname=Happinas |
art=HGSS |
size=160px |
pron=<sc>blis-see</sc> |
ndex=242 |
oldjdex=218 |
jdex=223 |
hdex=377 |
sdex=098 |
obrow=296 |
opbrow=217 |
typen=1 |
type1=Normal |
type2= |
species=Happiness |
height-ftin=4'11" |
height-m=1.5 |
weight-lbs=103.2 |
weight-kg=46.8 |
abilityn=2 |
ability1=Natural Cure |
ability2=Serene Grace |
abilityd=Healer|
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Fairy |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=40 |
evhp=3|
expyield=608 |
lv100exp=800,000 |
gendercode=254|
color=Pink |
catchrate=30 |
body=12 |
pokefordex=blissey |
generation=2 |
footnotes=}}
'''Blissey''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ハピナス''' ''Happinas'') is a {{type2|Normal}} Pokémon.

She [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Chansey}} when [[level]]ed up with high [[happiness]]. She is the final form of {{p|Happiny}}.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Blissey has a large egg shaped body, one half pink and the other white. The hair-like growths she had as a Chansey have curled up on her head. She has white, wing-like appendages where her arms meet her body and around her middle. She seems to have lost the tail she had as a Chansey. Like her pre-evolutions, she has a pouch on her stomach that holds an egg.

====Gender differences====
Blissey is a female-only species with no male counterpart.

====Special abilities====
It is said that anyone who takes one bite of a Blissey's egg will become unfailingly caring and pleasant to everyone.

Blissey, and her pre-evolved form, Chansey, are the [[Signature move|only known Pokémon]] that learn {{m|Softboiled}} naturally. However, {{p|Mew}} could learn it from a TM in [[Generation I]], while members of the {{p|Clefairy}} and {{p|Togepi}} families can be tutored the move in [[Generation III]]. {{p|Smeargle}} can also {{m|Sketch}} the move.

===Behavior===
Blissey is an extremely compassionate {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} by nature. If she sees a sick Pokémon, she will attempt to nurse the injured Pokémon back to health. Blissey's fluffy fur allows her to sense feelings of sadness. Upon sensing any sadness, this Pokémon will race to the source of the sadness, no matter the distance, and share her egg of happiness that instantly makes a person smile.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Urban.gif|right|frame|{{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Urban Pokémon}}]]
Blissey are commonly seen in [[Pokémon Center]]s under the ownership of [[Nurse Joy]].

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:EP129.png|thumb|right|{{TP|Nurse Joy|Blissey}} in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
{{TP|Nurse Joy|Blissey}} first appeared in ''[[EP129|Ignorance is Blissey]]'' where she emerged as a friend of [[Jessie]]'s from their time at Nursing School.

===Minor appearances===
A Blissey made a brief appearance in ''[[EP171|Power Play!]]'' and ''[[EP146|Tricks of the Trade]]''.

Another Blissey made an appearance in ''[[DP133|Uncrushing Defeat!]]'' where she was found working in the [[Pokémon Center]] near [[Lake Acuity]] to help treat Ash's injured Pokémon.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Johto}}
{{Animedexbody|EP129|Blissey|Ash's Pokédex|Blissey, the Happiness Pokémon. It is kindhearted and loves helping people. Blissey is the [[Evolution|evolved]] form of {{p|Chansey}}.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|original|Johto}}

==In the manga==
A Blissey captured by {{adv|Crystal}} and lent to {{adv|Emerald}} for his [[Battle Pike|Pike]] challenge appeared in the [[Pokémon Adventures volume 27|27th volume]]. With her high Special Defense aided by a suitable nature served much use for the boy, and though she was eventually defeated, she was able to revitalize another borrowed Pokémon, a {{p|Rapidash}}, using {{m|Softboiled}}, with which the queen's {{p|Seviper}} was defeated by a devastating {{m|Overheat}}, winning him the match.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Blissey (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=normal
|gen=2
|golddex=Anyone who takes even one bite of Blissey's egg becomes unfailingly caring and pleasant to everyone.
|silverdex=It has a very compassionate nature. If it sees a sick Pokémon, it will nurse the sufferer back to health.
|crystaldex=Biting into one of the delicious eggs that Blissey provides will make everyone around smile with joy.
|stadium2dex=Anyone who takes even one bite of Blissey's egg becomes unfailingly caring and pleasant to everyone.
|rsdex=Blissey senses sadness with its fluffy coat of fur. If it does so, this Pokémon will rush over to the sad person, however far they may be, to share an egg of happiness that brings a smile to any face.
|emeralddex=If it senses sadness with its fluffy fur, a Blissey will rush over to the sad person, however far away, to share an egg of happiness that brings a smile to any face.
|firereddex=It has a very compassionate nature. If it sees a sick Pokémon, it will nurse the sufferer back to health.
|leafgreendex=Anyone who takes even one bite of Blissey's egg becomes unfailingly caring and pleasant to everyone.
|diamonddex=This kindhearted Pokémon nurses sick Pokémon back to health. It senses feelings of sadness.
|pearldex=It is a Pokémon that delivers happiness. Eating its egg is said to make one kind to everyone.
|platinumdex=The eggs it lays are filled with happiness. Eating even one bite will bring a smile to anyone.
|heartgolddex=Anyone who takes even one bite of Blissey's egg becomes unfailingly caring and pleasant to everyone.
|soulsilverdex=It has a very compassionate nature. If it sees a sick Pokémon, it will nurse the sufferer back to health.
|bwdex=The eggs it lays are filled with happiness. Eating even one bite will bring a smile to anyone.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability |
gen=2 |
type=normal |
gsarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Chansey}} |
carea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Chansey}} |
gen3ex=frlg|
frlgarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Chansey}} after obtaining [[National Pokédex]] |
xdarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Chansey}} |
dparea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Chansey}} |
ptarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Chansey}} |
hgssarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Chansey}} |
palarea=Field |
bwrarity=None |
bwarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Chansey}} |
gen5ex=white |
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=normal
|trozei=[[Secret Storage 17]] Trozei Battle [[Mr. Who's Den]]
|md=Evolve from {{p|Chansey}}
|md2=[[Marine Resort]] (B1-B19) [[Happy Outlook]] (B1-B19) [[The Nightmare]] (B1-B19)
|ranger3=[[Old Mansion]] [[Light Temple]]
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=normal|
HP= 255 |
Attack= 10 |
Defense=10 |
SpAtk= 75 |
SpDef= 135 |
Speed= 55 }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Normal
|Speed=2
|SpeedMax=3
|Power=2
|PowerMax=3
|Technique=3
|TechniqueMax=3
|Stamina=5
|StaminaMax=5
|Jump=2
|JumpMax=3
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{Type effectiveness|
type1=normal|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=200 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 0 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh|Blissey|Normal|Normal|5|2}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Defense Curl|Normal|Status|—|—|40}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Pound|Normal|Physical|40|100|35||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Growl|Normal|Status|—|100|40}}
{{learnlist/level5|5|Tail Whip|Normal|Status|—|100|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|9|Refresh|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|12|DoubleSlap|Normal|Physical|15|85|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|16|Softboiled|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|20|Bestow|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|23|Minimize|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|27|Take Down|Normal|Physical|90|85|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|31|Sing|Normal|Status|—|55|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|34|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|38|Heal Pulse|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|42|Egg Bomb|Normal|Physical|100|75|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|46|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|50|Healing Wish|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|54|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|120|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf|Blissey|Normal|Normal|5|2}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Blissey|Normal|Normal|5|2}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM04|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM07|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM14|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM16|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM22|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM24|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM25|Thunder|Electric|Special|120|70|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM26|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM29|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM30|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM31|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM35|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|95|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM37|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM38|Fire Blast|Fire|Special|120|85|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM39|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM49|Echoed Voice|Normal|Special|40|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM52|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM57|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM59|Incinerate|Fire|Special|30|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM67|Retaliate|Normal|Physical|70|100|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM68|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM70|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM73|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM78|Bulldoze|Ground|Physical|60|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM80|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM83|Work Up|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM85|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM86|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM93|Wild Charge|Electric|Physical|90|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM94|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM04|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Blissey|Normal|Normal|5|2}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh|Blissey|Normal|Normal|5|2}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|315|Roselia}}{{MSP|407|Roserade}}|Aromatherapy|Grass|Status|—|—|5|Smart|0}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|286|Breloom}}|Counter|Fighting|Physical|—|100|20|Tough|2}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|417|Pachirisu}}|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|035|Clefairy}}{{MSP|036|Clefable}}|Gravity|Psychic|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|300|Skitty}}{{MSP|301|Delcatty}}|Heal Bell|Normal|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|0}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|311|Plusle}}{{MSP|312|Minun}}{{MSP|420|Cherubi}}{{MSP|421|Cherrim}}{{MSP|531|Audino}}{{MSP|546|Cottonee}} {{MSP|547|Whimsicott}}|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Smart|1}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|176|Togetic}}{{MSP|468|Togekiss}}{{MSP|311|Plusle}}{{MSP|417|Pachirisu}}{{MSP|531|Audino}}|Last Resort|Normal|Physical|140|100|5|||†|'''}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|035|Clefairy}}{{MSP|036|Clefable}}{{MSP|176|Togetic}}{{MSP|468|Togekiss}}|Metronome|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|2}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|300|Skitty}}{{MSP|301|Delcatty}}|Mud Bomb|Ground|Special|65|85|10|Smart|2|*}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|285|Shroomish}}{{MSP|286|Breloom}}{{MSP|315|Roselia}}{{MSP|407|Roserade}}{{MSP|420|Cherubi}}{{MSP|421|Cherrim}} {{MSP|546|Cottonee}}{{MSP|547|Whimsicott}}|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|||*}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|025|Pikachu}}{{MSP|026|Raichu}}{{MSP|035|Clefairy}}{{MSP|036|Clefable}}{{MSP|039|Jigglypuff}}{{MSP|040|Wigglytuff}} {{MSP|176|Togetic}}{{MSP|468|Togekiss}}{{MSP|183|Marill}}{{MSP|184|Azumarill}}{{MSP|209|Snubbull}}{{MSP|210|Granbull}}|Present|Normal|Physical|—|90|15|Cute|0|*|'''|}}
{{learnlist/breedf|Blissey|Normal|Normal|5|2}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh|Blissey|Normal|Normal|5|2}}
{{learnlist/tutor5null}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Blissey|Normal|Normal|5|2}}

====By a prior [[evolution]]====
{{Learnlist/prevoh|Blissey|Normal|Normal|5|2}}
{{Learnlist/prevo5|440|Happiny|||||Charm|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{Learnlist/prevo5|440|Happiny|||||Copycat|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{Learnlist/prevo5|440|Happiny|||||Sweet Kiss|Normal|Status|—|75|10}}
{{Learnlist/prevof|Blissey|Normal|Normal|5|2}}

====Special moves====

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=normal |
ndex=242 |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=Evolve |
area=Sky Blue Plains |
P1=I don't like to fight... Everyone's really kindhearted... |
P2=Oh, dear me... My health has declined by half. |
P3=No, dear... I can't muster any strength... |
PL=Yay! I leveled up! I wonder if I became kinder? |
Partner=no |
Ranger=no |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=-12% |
iq=H |
Ranger3=yes |
typeG3=Normal |
typeA3=Normal |
field3=Tackle |
field3power=3 |
browser3=It creates hearts around itself that make Pokémon Tired. |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|family=Incense
|sprite1=440
|name1=Happiny
|type1-1=Normal
|evotype1=Held
|held1=Oval Stone
|time1=Daytime
|incense=Luck Incense
|sprite2=113
|name2=Chansey
|type1-2=Normal
|evotype2=Happiness
|sprite3=242
|name3=Blissey
|type1-3=Normal}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=normal|
gen=2|
gender=none|
ndex=242|
name=Blissey|
}}
====Japanese sprites====
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{normal color dark}}; background: #{{normal color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{normal color dark}}; background: #{{normal color light}}; width:160px"| [[File:Spr 2s 242 jp.png]] [[File:Spr 2s 242 s jp.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Silver
|}

==Trivia==
* Blissey's {{DL|Stats|Hit Points|HP}} base [[Stats|stat]] is the [[List of Pokémon by base stats|highest legitimate single stat]] out of all Pokémon, at 255, giving her the ability to have the highest HP of any other Pokémon in the games (with a total of 714 HP if 252 HP EVs are added and if she has 31 HP IVs). Her HP base stat of 255 is the highest base stat possible, as all base stats are a single byte, the maximum value of which is 255 (1111 1111).
* Blissey and her evolution family, {{p|Happiny}} and {{p|Chansey}}, have the most in-game items associated with them. This includes: {{DL|Stat-enhancing item|Lucky Punch}}, {{DL|Experience-affecting item|Lucky Egg}}, {{DL|Incense|Luck Incense}}, and the {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|Oval Stone}}.
** Coincidentally, three of them have the word "luck" in their names, referring to Chansey's Japanese name, ''Lucky''. However, unlike the Lucky Punch and the Luck Incense, the Lucky Egg's Japanese name does not contain the word ''Lucky''.
* Blissey shares the same [[species]] name with {{p|Togetic}}. They are both known as Happiness Pokémon.
* In [[Generation III]], Blissey learns a move earlier than her pre-evolved form, Chansey. Chansey learns {{m|Egg Bomb}} at level 35, whilst Blissey learns it at level 28.
* Blissey has the highest {{DL|Stats|Special Defense}} of all {{type|Normal}} Pokémon.

===Origin===
She may be based on a nurse. Design-wise, she appears to have some physical similarities to [[Nurse Joy]] from the {{pkmn|anime}} in both color and hair.

====Name origin====
Blissey's name comes from the word ''bliss'', as in happiness, and from the ending suffix of her pre-evolution, {{p|Chansey}}.

''Happinas'' may be a combination of ''happiness'' and ''nurse'' or just be a corruption of ''happiness''. "Nasu" also means {{wp|eggplant}} in Japanese, which may be a pun on the egg theme of this evolutionary line.

==In other languages==
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|- align=center
! class="roundytl" | Language
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! class="roundytr" | Name Origin
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[List of German Pokémon names|German]]
| Heiteira
| From ''{{tt|heiter|happy}}'' and ''{{tt|Ei|egg}}''.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[List of French Pokémon names|French]]
| Leuphorie
| From ''{{tt|l'oeuf|the egg}}'' and ''{{tt|euphorie|euphoria}}''.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]
| 해피나스 ''Haepinaseu''
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|- style="background:#FFF;"
| class="roundybl" | [[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese (Taiwan)]]
| 幸福蛋 ''Xìng Fú Dàn''
| class="roundybr" | "Happy/blessed egg". References Blissey's Japanese name, Happinas.
|}
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==Related articles==
*[[Nurse Joy's Blissey]]

==External links==

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Talk:Swords of Justice/Archive 1

2011-09-10T16:19:10Z

Ikarishipper900: /* Moving it to Legendary musketeers */

==Other possible inspirations?==
Couple of observations that have been pointed out to me that may have also been part of the inspiration for the quartet. In France, where the Musketeer stories originate, there's a variation of Rock, Paper, Scissors which includes a fourth option: Well. It may be coincidence, but the primary types of the Musketeer quartet seem to reflect this. Rock, Steel/Scissors, Grass/Paper, and Water/Well.
Another, slightly more unlikely proposition I've heard is that the four are based upon the four horsemen, with their livestock basis being a nod towards Arceus'[the God or creator] design as an equine creature. Kobaruon would be Conquest; Terakion, War; Birijion, Famine [its pokedex entry specifying it trifles with opponents, implying a slow demise]; and Keldeo, Death.

Should these possible influences be considered and added to the article at some point? When it comes to design inspiration, most pages tend to take liberties, especially with the newer Pokémon. In any case, I felt the two observations were worth bringing up. [[User:Tindil|Tindil]] 19:10, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

The Rock-Scissors-Paper thing makes a lot of sense to me. Seems like a valid connection.--[[User:Podunk|Podunk]] 07:11, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

== Different name? ==

Okay, so, before, I know, the [[lake guardians]] were called by us the lake trio. And now with Gen V being new, this is the musketeer trio. One problem there, though.

'''''THERE ARE FOUR OF THEM.'''''

So I propose naming this page either musketeer ungulates (goes with the rest of the non-mascot trios, which don't use trio in their name), or legendary ungulates. And yes, I do intend for you guys to stop linking to them at every damned chance. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:05, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
:It's called the three musketeers hence why it's a trio remember, Keldeo(d'Artagnan) isn't considered one yet as he's a new member and Keldeo being based on him should have the same treatment [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:09, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
::This is still a dumb name. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 16:43, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

I get an odd feeling to rant about how Keldeo doesn't belong, but something tells me that would get me banned again. So rather than ranting, I'll just list what discludes Keldeo.

*Exhibit A) MASS distance; seven Pokédex slots between Terrakion (last in the lineup) and Keldeo.
*Exhibit B) Altered learnset; knows Aqua Jet rather than Quick Attack, learns Sacred Sword at 43 rather than 42, and is the only one to learn Sword of Mystery.
*Exhibit C) Obtain method; the others roam, and Keldeo is an event Pokémon

To think that I inverbally supported the dragons but am disaproving of musketeer junior here. [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] - [[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|Please don't hurt us...]] 01:48, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

: 1)You mean Virizion.

2) god forbid it learns something different

3) It's the youngest so it takes longer to learn. and Sword of Mystery is an event so it doesn't count

4) your point? [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 01:53, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, that last part was me just thinking out loud... or something like that. And just because we're making an anology to a story/legend doesn't mean we need to link together every little bit of the story/legend to Pokémon. [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] - [[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|Please don't hurt us...]] 02:03, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Also, Keldeo is event-exclusive, so yes, Sword of Mystery does, in a way, count. [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] - [[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|Please don't hurt us...]] 02:07, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Hm... Musketeers doesn't make much sense unless you know the origin, and even then Keldeo doesn't really count, even though it's definitely a counterpart. On the other hand, ungulates is very vague and lame; what would we do if another trio were based on ungulates? We'd have another "Dragon Trio" on our hands. I would lean toward Legendary Musketeers: it's not perfect, but it's the best I can think of. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:33, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
:I'm totally with TTE on this one (I actually came to this page to request a move). Sure, it's not a member of the trio, but it is closely related. We could call it "legendary musketeers", "musketeer Pokémon", "musketeer ungulates" or "legendary ungulates". As TTE mentioned, only box legends get trio, and there can be considered to be four of these. Also, unless it was officially stated that they are inspired by the musketeers, this is a poor title choice. "Legendary ungulates" seems to be the best choice. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:43, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
::"Ungulates" isn't going to garner favor or use. "Trio" is also not exclusive to box mascot trios; that's simply how it's happened so far (the Raijin/Kami trio will break it if the Three Musketeers don't). How hard is it to call them the Musketeer Quartet? They're going to be called the "musketeers" for short by the rest of the fandom, no matter '''which''' name is used here, ultimately. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 02:59, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
:::But it's debateable whether there re 3 or 4 of them, so just not mentioning it is better. Calling them the "Legendary Musketeers" seems to solve this problem. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:24, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== Remove Keldeo from the article ==

Just because it's another Fighting legendary doesn't mean the trio is a quartet. Besides, it's not confirmed. [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] 16:54, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
:ahahahahaha no. Keldeo has a connection to the other three (and yes it happens in game) and it was adopted by them [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 16:58, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

== Trio Master ==
If, as we have noted, Keldeo is not truly part of the trio, and it is (semi) far apart from the others in the Pokedex, wouldn't Keldeo be qualified for Trio Master? This would also save us from the trio/musketeers/quartet dilemma. [[User:Mewtwo777|I am Darth Mewtwo... Fear me, and my team made entirely of Mewtwo!!!]] 18:37, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
:''A Pokémon that is a trio master is one who, in some way, oversees a legendary trio of Pokémon.'' Keldeo does this in no way, as he is the least experienced of the group. Just because he breaks the conventions of the other three, that doesn't make him the master. --[[User:Jda95|'''jda''']][[User talk:Jda95|'''95''']] 03:39, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

== Moving it to Legendary musketeers ==

Is someone approves of this move, say I. Since there are four members, its more likely. [[User:Duo2nd|Duo2nd]] 10:11, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:I agree. Since it is debatable whether or not Keldeo is part of the trio, it is better to not mention it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:30, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::I guess there's a difference between "Musketeer Trio" and "The Three Musketeer". They are not a trio, but they are "The Three Musketeer", get it? I mean, the name "Three Musketeer" is about the original three and a friend who came after. Making a gross comparison, it's the same difference between United States of America and America's states united. The latter would be a union of all states all over the continent, and the first is a country's name, although not all states of the America got together to build a country. [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] 22:40, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
:Can we just call them the "the Musketeers"? No "Legendary", no "trio", no "quartet", no "Muskedeers". There is nothing else in the series that can be called a "musketeer", thus is should not need a "Legendary" to differentiate them from anything else. They're special and unique enough that Musketeer is a big enough blanket term to cover all four of them, or all three of them. Birds are birds (half the flying class), beasts are beasts (most of the ground group), golems are {{p|Golem}}s. Since there will never be a consensus on the numbers, eliminate them. Since there hasn't been anything else based on the Musketeers, no need to separate them with a "Legendary" prefix, because it's obvious they're referring to the legendaries without having to call them that; if this changes in the future, you can talk about it then. But I say make this easy: just call them the Musketeers. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 17:18, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
::I think Luna's thought is a good one, but if that doesn't work, I think the next best would be Legendary musketeers. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 23:51, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
:::I think just {{red link|musketeers}} works as well, but I also feel that it implies that they are human; however, the is just a minor complaint, and I would be happy with them at either musketeers or legendary musketeers, just as long as the title does not specify number. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:47, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
::::Not that I disagree with this, but the musketeers seem too...general to refer to them. "Legendary Musketeers" at least would highlight the fact they're legendaries. [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 09:36, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
:::::But why not musketeer quartet? They are with 4 members, and that is a quartet. --[[User:Nazirbashir|Nazirbashir]] 18:20, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
I concur we should move it to Legendary musketeers unless there is a confirmed trio master.Could Cobalion be the master you need to battle him before you can get the others. --[[User:Pokemonboy3000|Pokemonboy3000]] 05:51, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
:Cobalion could be a trio master - I would consider him one - but he's also a part of the trio, which is in fact not a trio, but a quartet, which is the root of the problem. I'm in favor of Legendary Musketeers. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 16:19, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

==Les Trois Mousquetaires==
Les Trois Mousquetaires (The Three Musketeer) is a novel by Alexandre Dumas. It talks about Three men and one friend of them, the younger D'Artagnan. So, what's the problem with the name? That perfectly fits the story--[[User:TheFaither|TheFaither]] 19:02, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
:People are literal with their numbers. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 19:35, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

== Official source. based on a The Three Musketeers. ==

It is being described by Nintendo Dream vol.204. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 19:06, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

== types ==

There types may be refer to the homes of pokémon: rock for cave pokémon, grass for pokémon in the forest, woods or just tall grass, water for pokémon that life in lakes or in the sea and steel may be refer to pokémon that life in the city (like the trash cloak of wormadam). Nickvang 22:47 25 june 2011

Leaf Blade (move)

2011-09-10T16:07:27Z

Ikarishipper900: /* By {{pkmn|breeding}} */ Fixed the footer, sorry.

{{MoveInfobox|
n=348 |
name=Leaf Blade |
jname=リーフブレード |
jtrans=Leaf Blade |
jtranslit=Rīfu Burēdo |
desc=The user handles a sharp leaf like a sword and attacks by cutting its target. Critical hits land more easily. |
gameimage=Leaf Blade.png |
gameimagewidth=256 |
type=Grass |
damagecategory=Physical |
basepp=15 |
maxpp=24 |
power={{tt|90|70 in Generation III}} |
accuracy=100 |
gen=III |
category=Cool |
appeal=3 |
jam=0 |
cdesc=Affected by how well the appeal in front goes. |
appealsc=2 |
scdesc=Earn +2 if the Pokémon performs first in the turn. |
pokefordex=Leaf%20Blade |
touches=yes |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=no |
snatch=no |
brightpowder=yes |
kingsrock=yes |
flag7=no |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
target=anyadjacent |
footnotes= }}
'''Leaf Blade''' (Japanese: '''リーフブレード''' ''Leaf Blade'') is a damage-dealing {{type2|Grass}} move introduced in [[Generation III]], where it was the [[signature move]] of {{p|Grovyle}} and {{p|Sceptile}}.

==Effect==
===Generation III===
Leaf Blade inflicts damage and has an increased {{DL|damage modification|critical hit}} ratio. Leaf Blade has a base power of 70 in this generation.

===Generation IV===
The effects of Leaf Blade are the same as the previous generation; however, its base power [[List of modified moves|increases]] from 70 to 90.

==Learnset==
===By [[Level|leveling up]]===
{{Moveheader/Level|Grass|3}}
{{Moveentry/Level3|071|Victreebel|2|Grass|Poison|no|no|PtHGSS=47|47|'''|}}
{{Moveentry/Level3|182|Bellossom|1|Grass|Grass|no|no|PtHGSS=--|--|'''|}}
{{Moveentry/Level3|253|Grovyle|1|Grass|Grass|29|29|29|'''}}
{{Moveentry/Level3|254|Sceptile|1|Grass|Grass|29|29|29|'''}}
{{Moveentry/Level3|470|Leafeon|1|Grass|Grass|no|71|71|'''}}
{{Moveentry/Level3|475|Gallade|2|Psychic|Fighting|no|--|--}}
{{Moveentry/Level3|495|Snivy|1|Grass|Grass|no|no|28|'''}}
{{Moveentry/Level3|496|Servine|1|Grass|Grass|no|no|32|'''}}
{{Moveentry/Level3|497|Serperior|1|Grass|Grass|no|no|32|'''}}
{{Moveentry/Level3|542|Leavanny|2|Bug|Grass|no|no|36|'''}}
{{Moveentry/Level3|640|Virizion|2|Grass|Fighting|no|no|67|'''}}
{{Movefooter|Grass|3}}

===By {{pkmn|breeding}}===
{{Moveheader/Breed|Grass|4}}
{{Moveentry/Breed4|083|Farfetch'd|2|Normal|Flying|no|HGSS={{MSP|470|Leafeon}}|{{MSP|470|Leafeon}}{{MSP|495|Snivy}}{{MSP|496|Servine}}{{MSP|497|Serperior}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed4|357|Tropius|1|Grass|Flying|{{MSP|071|Victreebel}}{{MSP|182|Bellossom}}{{MSP|253|Grovyle}}{{MSP|254|Sceptile}}|{{MSP|071|Victreebel}}{{MSP|182|Bellossom}}{{MSP|253|Grovyle}}{{MSP|254|Sceptile}}{{MSP|495|Snivy}}{{MSP|496|Servine}}{{MSP|497|Serperior}}|'''}}
{{Movefooter|Grass|4}}

===By {{pkmn2|event}}===
====[[Generation V]]====
{{Learnlistspecial|Grass}}
{{Moveentryspecial|083|Farfetch'd|1|Normal|Flying|{{pkmn|Dream World}} - {{dwa|Pleasant Forest}}}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

==In the anime==
{{moveanime|type=grass|exp=yes|gen=The leaves on the user's arms extend and glow green.|image1=Snivy Leaf Blade.png|image1p=Snivy|image2=Ash Sceptile Leaf Blade.png|image2p=Sceptile|image3=Leafeon Leaf Blade.png|image3p=Leafeon|image4=Servine Leaf Blade.png|image4p=Servine}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=253|pkmn=Grovyle|method=The three leaves on one of Grovyle's forearm glow white or green and combine into one long sharp blade. It then slashes the opponent with it.}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Natasha|user1=Natasha's Grovyle|startcode=AG041|startname=What You Seed is What You Get|notes=Debut}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Ash's Grovyle|startcode=AG066|startname=Exploud and Clear}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=254|pkmn=Sceptile|method=The four leaves on Sceptile's wrists glow light green and form into two. Sceptile then slices the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Ash's Sceptile|startcode=AG163|startname=Cutting the Ties that Bind!}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=470|pkmn=Leafeon|method=The leaf on Leafeon's head and its tail start to glow light green, and they form into long blades. Leafeon then slashes the opponent with one of them.}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Zoey|user1=Zoey's Leafeon|startcode=DP176|startname=Coming Full Festival Circle!}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=496|pkmn=Servine|method=The leaf at the end of Servine's tail glows light green and it slashes the opponent with it.}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Servine (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer's Servine|startcode=BW004|startname=The Battle Club and Tepig's Choice!}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=495|pkmn=Snivy|method=The leaf at the end of Snivy's tail becomes surrounded by a wavy light green aura. Snivy then slashes the opponent with its tail. It leaves behind a light green trail of energy where it slashes the opponent.}}
{{movebtm|type=grass|user=Ash's Snivy|startcode=BW010|startname=A Rival Battle for Club Champ!}}

==In the manga==

===Phantom Thief Pokémon 7===
{{Movemanga|type=grass|exp=yes|gen=The user slashes the opponent with powerful blades.|image1=Gallade Leaf Blade P7.png|image1p=Gallade}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=475|pkmn=Gallade|method=Gallade slashes the opponent with its arms.}}
{{MovebtmManga|type=grass|user=Hiori|user1=Hiori's Gallade|startcode=P7-04|startname=A Fated Reunion|notes=Debut}}

===Pokémon Adventures===
{{movemanga|type=grass|exp=yes|gen=The user slashes the opponent with protruding leaves that stick out of its body.|image1=Emerald Grovyle.png|image1p=Grovyle}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=253|pkmn=Grovyle|method=Grovyle uses the leaves on its forearms and slashes the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Emerald's Grovyle|startcode=PS241|startname=VS. Dusclops|notes=Debut}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Grovyle (Pokémon)|user1=The Battle Factory's Grovyle|startcode=PS306|startname=VS. Pinsir}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=254|pkmn=Sceptile|method=Sceptile slashes the opponent using the leaves protruding from one its arms.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=grass|user=Emerald's Sceptile|startcode=PS307|startname=VS. Glalie}}

===Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure===
{{movemanga|type=grass|exp=yes|gen=The user slashes the opponent with sharp leaves.|image1=Leafeon Leaf Blade DPA.png|image1p=Leafeon|image2=Gallade Leaf Blade DPA.png|image2p=Gallade}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=470|pkmn=Leafeon|method=Leafeon fires out leaves with sharp blades at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Mitsumi|user1=Mitsumi's Leafeon|startcode=DPA08|startname=Team Galactic's Conspiracy, Revealed!!|notes=Debut}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=475|pkmn=Gallade|method=Gallade slashes the opponent with one of its arms shaped as a sharp leaf.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=grass|user=Saturn|user1=Saturn's Gallade|startcode=DPA11|startname=The Legendary Pokémon Captured}}

==In other languages==
{{Langtable|color={{grass color}}|bordercolor={{grass color light}}
|zh_cmn=刀葉 ''Dāoyè''
|nl=Bladmes
|fi=Lehtiterä
|fr=Lame-Feuille
|de=Laubklinge
|el=Φυλλόξιφος
|it=Fendifoglia
|ko=리프블레이드 ''Leaf Blade''
|pt_br=Lâmina de Folha
|pt_eu=Lâmina
|es=Hoja Aguda
|sr=Lisnato Sečivo}}

{{-}}
{{Leaf Blade}}
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}

[[pt:Leaf Blade]]
[[de:Laubklinge]]
[[fr:Lame-Feuille]]
[[it:Fendifoglia (mossa)]]
[[ja:リーフブレード]]

Blaze Kick (move)

2011-09-10T16:06:54Z

Ikarishipper900: /* By {{pkmn|breeding}} */ Removed an unnecessary column

{{MoveInfobox|
n=299 |
name=Blaze Kick |
jname=ブレイズキック |
jtrans=Blaze Kick |
jtranslit=Bureizu Kikku |
desc=The user launches a kick that lands a critical hit more easily. It may also leave the target with a burn. |
gameimage=Blaze Kick.png |
gameimagewidth=256px |
type=Fire |
damagecategory=Physical |
basepp=10 |
maxpp=16 |
power=85 |
accuracy=90 |
gen=III |
target=anyadjacent |
category=Beauty |
appeal=4 |
jam=0 |
cdesc=A highly appealing move. |
appealsc=2 |
scdesc=Earn +2 if the Pokémon performs first in the turn. |
pokefordex=Blaze%20Kick |
touches=yes |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=no |
snatch=no |
mirrormove=yes |
kingsrock=no |
flag7=no |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
footnotes= }}
'''Blaze Kick''' (Japanese: '''ブレイズキック''' ''Blaze Kick'') is a damage-dealing {{type2|Fire}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation III]], where it was {{p|Blaziken}}'s [[signature move]].

==Effect==
Blaze Kick deals damage and has an increased [[critical hit]] ratio. It has a 10% chance of {{status|burn|burning}} the target.

==Learnset==
===By [[Level|leveling up]]===
{{Moveheader/Level|Fire|3}}
{{Moveentry/Level3|106|Hitmonlee|1|Fighting|Fighting|no|41|45}}
{{Moveentry/Level3|257|Blaziken|2|Fire|Fighting|36|36|36|'''}}
{{Movefooter|Fire|3}}

===By {{pkmn|breeding}}===
{{Moveheader/Breed|Fire|4}}
{{Moveentry/Breed4|390|Chimchar|1|Fire|Fire|{{MSP|106|Hitmonlee}}{{MSP|257|Blaziken}}|{{MSP|106|Hitmonlee}}{{MSP|257|Blaziken}}|'''}}
{{Moveentry/Breed4|447|Riolu|1|Fighting|Fighting|{{MSP|106|Hitmonlee}}{{MSP|257|Blaziken}}|{{MSP|106|Hitmonlee}}{{MSP|257|Blaziken}}}}
{{Movefooter|Fire|4}}

==In the anime==
{{moveanime|type=fire|exp=yes|gen=The user kicks the opponent with a fiery kick.|image1=Blaziken Blaze Kick preparation.png|image1p=About to use Blaze Kick|image2=Harrison Blaziken Blaze Kick.png|image2p=Harrison's Blaziken|image3=Hitmonlee Blaze Kick.png|image3p=Hitmonlee|image4=Blaziken Blaze Kick.png|image4p=May's Blaziken}}
{{movep|type=fire|ms=257|pkmn=Blaziken|method=The end of Blaziken's leg blazes in flames and then it kicks the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=fire|user=Harrison's Blaziken|startcode=EP272|startname=Johto Photo Finish|notes=Debut}}
{{movemid|type=fire|user=Rafe|user1=Rafe's Blaziken|startcode=M07|startname=Destiny Deoxys}}
{{movemid|type=fire|user=May's Blaziken|startcode=AG191|startname=Once More with Reeling!}}
{{movep|type=fire|ms=106|pkmn=Hitmonlee|method=One of Hitmonlee's feet becomes surrounded in red-orange flames and it kicks the opponent.}}
{{movebtm|type=fire|user=Barry (anime)|user1=Barry's Hitmonlee|startcode=DP184|startname=Casting a Paul on Barry!}}

==In the manga==

===Pokémon Adventures===
{{movemanga|type=fire|exp=yes|gen=The user kicks the opponent with a blazed foot.|image1=Toro Blaze Kick.png|image1p=Blaziken}}
{{movep|type=fire|ms=257|pkmn=Blaziken|method=The end of one of Blaziken's feet bursts into flames and it roundhouse kicks the opponent with it. As it kicks, it leaves behind a trail of fire.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=fire|user=Toro|user1=Sapphire's Toro|startcode=PS226|startname=VS. Altaria|notes=Debut}}

==In other generations ==
{{Movegen|
type=Fire|
genIII=Blaze Kick III|
genIV=Blaze Kick IV|
}}

==Trivia==
*Although Blaze Kick debuted in [[Generation III]], it first appeared in the Johto saga of the anime.
*Of the Generation III [[starter Pokémon]] signature moves, Blaze Kick is the only move that can only be learned by the final evolution of the starter, and has the smallest expanded learnset in [[Generation IV]].

==In other languages==
{{Langtable|color={{fire color}}|bordercolor={{fire color light}}
|zh_cmn=火焰踢 ''Huǒyàn Tī''
|fr=Pied Brûleur
|da=Flamme Spark
|de=Feuerfeger
|el=Φλεγόμενο Λάκτισμα
|it=Calciardente
|ko=브레이즈킥 ''Blaze Kick''
|pl=Ogniste Kopnięcie
|pt_br=Chute Flamejante
|pt_eu=Pontapé de Fogo ''(Master Quest)'' Chuto Flama ''(DP Battle Dimension)''
|es=Patada Ígnea
|sr=Plameni Šut}}

{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}
[[Category:Moves with a high critical-hit ratio]]

[[pt:Blaze Kick]]

[[de:Feuerfeger]]
[[es:Patada Ígnea]]
[[fr:Pied Brûleur]]
[[it:Calciardente (mossa)]]
[[ja:ブレイズキック]]
[[pl:Blaze Kick]]

Leaf Blade (move)

2011-09-10T16:04:46Z

Ikarishipper900: /* By {{pkmn|breeding}} */ Removed an empty column

{{MoveInfobox|
n=348 |
name=Leaf Blade |
jname=リーフブレード |
jtrans=Leaf Blade |
jtranslit=Rīfu Burēdo |
desc=The user handles a sharp leaf like a sword and attacks by cutting its target. Critical hits land more easily. |
gameimage=Leaf Blade.png |
gameimagewidth=256 |
type=Grass |
damagecategory=Physical |
basepp=15 |
maxpp=24 |
power={{tt|90|70 in Generation III}} |
accuracy=100 |
gen=III |
category=Cool |
appeal=3 |
jam=0 |
cdesc=Affected by how well the appeal in front goes. |
appealsc=2 |
scdesc=Earn +2 if the Pokémon performs first in the turn. |
pokefordex=Leaf%20Blade |
touches=yes |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=no |
snatch=no |
brightpowder=yes |
kingsrock=yes |
flag7=no |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
target=anyadjacent |
footnotes= }}
'''Leaf Blade''' (Japanese: '''リーフブレード''' ''Leaf Blade'') is a damage-dealing {{type2|Grass}} move introduced in [[Generation III]], where it was the [[signature move]] of {{p|Grovyle}} and {{p|Sceptile}}.

==Effect==
===Generation III===
Leaf Blade inflicts damage and has an increased {{DL|damage modification|critical hit}} ratio. Leaf Blade has a base power of 70 in this generation.

===Generation IV===
The effects of Leaf Blade are the same as the previous generation; however, its base power [[List of modified moves|increases]] from 70 to 90.

==Learnset==
===By [[Level|leveling up]]===
{{Moveheader/Level|Grass|3}}
{{Moveentry/Level3|071|Victreebel|2|Grass|Poison|no|no|PtHGSS=47|47|'''|}}
{{Moveentry/Level3|182|Bellossom|1|Grass|Grass|no|no|PtHGSS=--|--|'''|}}
{{Moveentry/Level3|253|Grovyle|1|Grass|Grass|29|29|29|'''}}
{{Moveentry/Level3|254|Sceptile|1|Grass|Grass|29|29|29|'''}}
{{Moveentry/Level3|470|Leafeon|1|Grass|Grass|no|71|71|'''}}
{{Moveentry/Level3|475|Gallade|2|Psychic|Fighting|no|--|--}}
{{Moveentry/Level3|495|Snivy|1|Grass|Grass|no|no|28|'''}}
{{Moveentry/Level3|496|Servine|1|Grass|Grass|no|no|32|'''}}
{{Moveentry/Level3|497|Serperior|1|Grass|Grass|no|no|32|'''}}
{{Moveentry/Level3|542|Leavanny|2|Bug|Grass|no|no|36|'''}}
{{Moveentry/Level3|640|Virizion|2|Grass|Fighting|no|no|67|'''}}
{{Movefooter|Grass|3}}

===By {{pkmn|breeding}}===
{{Moveheader/Breed|Grass|4}}
{{Moveentry/Breed4|083|Farfetch'd|2|Normal|Flying|no|HGSS={{MSP|470|Leafeon}}|{{MSP|470|Leafeon}}{{MSP|495|Snivy}}{{MSP|496|Servine}}{{MSP|497|Serperior}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed4|357|Tropius|1|Grass|Flying|{{MSP|071|Victreebel}}{{MSP|182|Bellossom}}{{MSP|253|Grovyle}}{{MSP|254|Sceptile}}|{{MSP|071|Victreebel}}{{MSP|182|Bellossom}}{{MSP|253|Grovyle}}{{MSP|254|Sceptile}}{{MSP|495|Snivy}}{{MSP|496|Servine}}{{MSP|497|Serperior}}|'''}}
{{Movefooter|Grass|3}}

===By {{pkmn2|event}}===
====[[Generation V]]====
{{Learnlistspecial|Grass}}
{{Moveentryspecial|083|Farfetch'd|1|Normal|Flying|{{pkmn|Dream World}} - {{dwa|Pleasant Forest}}}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

==In the anime==
{{moveanime|type=grass|exp=yes|gen=The leaves on the user's arms extend and glow green.|image1=Snivy Leaf Blade.png|image1p=Snivy|image2=Ash Sceptile Leaf Blade.png|image2p=Sceptile|image3=Leafeon Leaf Blade.png|image3p=Leafeon|image4=Servine Leaf Blade.png|image4p=Servine}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=253|pkmn=Grovyle|method=The three leaves on one of Grovyle's forearm glow white or green and combine into one long sharp blade. It then slashes the opponent with it.}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Natasha|user1=Natasha's Grovyle|startcode=AG041|startname=What You Seed is What You Get|notes=Debut}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Ash's Grovyle|startcode=AG066|startname=Exploud and Clear}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=254|pkmn=Sceptile|method=The four leaves on Sceptile's wrists glow light green and form into two. Sceptile then slices the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Ash's Sceptile|startcode=AG163|startname=Cutting the Ties that Bind!}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=470|pkmn=Leafeon|method=The leaf on Leafeon's head and its tail start to glow light green, and they form into long blades. Leafeon then slashes the opponent with one of them.}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Zoey|user1=Zoey's Leafeon|startcode=DP176|startname=Coming Full Festival Circle!}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=496|pkmn=Servine|method=The leaf at the end of Servine's tail glows light green and it slashes the opponent with it.}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Servine (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer's Servine|startcode=BW004|startname=The Battle Club and Tepig's Choice!}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=495|pkmn=Snivy|method=The leaf at the end of Snivy's tail becomes surrounded by a wavy light green aura. Snivy then slashes the opponent with its tail. It leaves behind a light green trail of energy where it slashes the opponent.}}
{{movebtm|type=grass|user=Ash's Snivy|startcode=BW010|startname=A Rival Battle for Club Champ!}}

==In the manga==

===Phantom Thief Pokémon 7===
{{Movemanga|type=grass|exp=yes|gen=The user slashes the opponent with powerful blades.|image1=Gallade Leaf Blade P7.png|image1p=Gallade}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=475|pkmn=Gallade|method=Gallade slashes the opponent with its arms.}}
{{MovebtmManga|type=grass|user=Hiori|user1=Hiori's Gallade|startcode=P7-04|startname=A Fated Reunion|notes=Debut}}

===Pokémon Adventures===
{{movemanga|type=grass|exp=yes|gen=The user slashes the opponent with protruding leaves that stick out of its body.|image1=Emerald Grovyle.png|image1p=Grovyle}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=253|pkmn=Grovyle|method=Grovyle uses the leaves on its forearms and slashes the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Emerald's Grovyle|startcode=PS241|startname=VS. Dusclops|notes=Debut}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Grovyle (Pokémon)|user1=The Battle Factory's Grovyle|startcode=PS306|startname=VS. Pinsir}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=254|pkmn=Sceptile|method=Sceptile slashes the opponent using the leaves protruding from one its arms.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=grass|user=Emerald's Sceptile|startcode=PS307|startname=VS. Glalie}}

===Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure===
{{movemanga|type=grass|exp=yes|gen=The user slashes the opponent with sharp leaves.|image1=Leafeon Leaf Blade DPA.png|image1p=Leafeon|image2=Gallade Leaf Blade DPA.png|image2p=Gallade}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=470|pkmn=Leafeon|method=Leafeon fires out leaves with sharp blades at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=grass|user=Mitsumi|user1=Mitsumi's Leafeon|startcode=DPA08|startname=Team Galactic's Conspiracy, Revealed!!|notes=Debut}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=475|pkmn=Gallade|method=Gallade slashes the opponent with one of its arms shaped as a sharp leaf.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=grass|user=Saturn|user1=Saturn's Gallade|startcode=DPA11|startname=The Legendary Pokémon Captured}}

==In other languages==
{{Langtable|color={{grass color}}|bordercolor={{grass color light}}
|zh_cmn=刀葉 ''Dāoyè''
|nl=Bladmes
|fi=Lehtiterä
|fr=Lame-Feuille
|de=Laubklinge
|el=Φυλλόξιφος
|it=Fendifoglia
|ko=리프블레이드 ''Leaf Blade''
|pt_br=Lâmina de Folha
|pt_eu=Lâmina
|es=Hoja Aguda
|sr=Lisnato Sečivo}}

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Talk:Signature move/Archive 1

2011-09-10T15:52:41Z

Ikarishipper900: /* Current definition is SERIOUSLY flawed! */

==Elemental Hyper Beams==
In Gen. III, only Charizard, Venusaur and Blastoise could learn [[Blast Burn]], [[Frenzy Plant]] and [[Hydro Cannon]], respectively. The Johto starters could learn it too, but only by being traded from XD (just like [[Lugia]] and [[Psycho Boost]]). Should the 3 HB variations be included in this list, since other "former" signature moves are also included?--[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 02:12, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
:Feel free to add it at the bottom of the page, but note that all the fully-evolved starters can learn them in Generation IV. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 00:11, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
::You know, there's not really too much of a point to replying to topics well over a month old. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 00:23, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

==Skarmory?==
Should Skarmory with Steel Wing be included here? After all, it is the only Pokemon that can learn it naturally.
:That would be a good case to make. Question is, how many others do that? '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 03:14, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
::Hitmonlee with {{M|Mega Kick}} [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 03:56, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
::And I'm sure there are more, like Hitmonchan and {{m|Vacuum Wave}}. I, too, am used to call moves "signature" when they're exclusive to few by leveling up. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:55, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
What about [[Porygon-Z]] and [[Trick Room]]? Though Trick Room is a [[TM]], only Porygon-Z learns it naturally. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 17:55, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

What about [[Metagross]] and [[Meteor Mash]]?
--[[User:Mooshykris|Mooshykris]] 22:02, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[[Clefairy]] learns [[Meteor Mash]], though...hardly exclusive...
--[[User:Myrmidon|Myrmidom]]

And [[Chimchar]] with [[Facade]], this is the same scenario as [[Trick Room]]. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 15:18, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

== Level-up otherwise exclusive to TMs? ==

Okay, I just wanted to organize what's been said above. What we have so far is...

{| border=1 align="left" style="background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background: #C0C0FF;"
! [[TM]] or [[HM]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Pokémon]]
! [[Level]]
! [[Generation]]
|- align="center"
| rowspan="2" | [[TM01]]
| rowspan="2" | {{m|Focus Punch}}
| rowspan="2" | {{p|Vigoroth}}
| 43
| {{gen|III}}
|- align="center"
| 43
| {{gen|IV}}
|- align="center"
| [[TM21]]
| {{m|Frustration}}
| {{p|Buneary}}
| 13
| {{gen|IV}}
|- align="center"
| [[TM27]]
| {{m|Return}}
| {{p|Lopunny}}
| 13
| {{gen|IV}}
|- align="center"
| [[TM42]]
| {{m|Facade}}
| {{p|Chimchar}}
| 31
| {{gen|IV}}
|- align="center"
| rowspan="3" | [[TM47]]
| rowspan="3" | {{m|Steel Wing}}
| rowspan="3" | {{p|Skarmory}}
| 49
| {{gen|II}}
|- align="center"
| 32
| {{gen|III}}
|- align="center"
| 38
| {{gen|IV}}
|- align="center"
| [[HM05]] ([[Generation III]])
| rowspan="2" | {{m|Flash}}
| rowspan="2" | {{p|Volbeat}}
| rowspan="2" | --
| rowspan="2" | {{gen|IV}}
|- align="center"
| [[TM70]]
|- align="center"
| [[TM72]]
| {{m|Avalanche}}
| {{p|Smoochum}}
| 31
| {{gen|IV}}
|- align="center"
| [[TM72]]
| {{m|Avalanche}}
| {{p|Jynx}}
| 33
| {{gen|IV}}
|- align="center"
| [[TM92]]
| {{m|Trick Room}}
| {{p|Porygon-Z}}
| --
| {{gen|IV}}
|- align="center"
| rowspan="4" | [[HM07]]
| rowspan="4" | {{m|Waterfall}}
| rowspan="4" | {{p|Goldeen}}
| 37
| {{gen|I}}
|- align="center"
| 38
| {{gen|II}}
|- align="center"
| 38
| {{gen|III}}
|- align="center"
| 37
| {{gen|IV}}
|- align="center"
| rowspan="4" | [[HM07]]
| rowspan="4" | {{m|Waterfall}}
| rowspan="4" | {{p|Seaking}}
| 39
| {{gen|I}}
|- align="center"
| 41
| {{gen|II}}
|- align="center"
| 41
| {{gen|III}}
|- align="center"
| 40
| {{gen|IV}}
|}
 

If anyone thinks of any others, go on and add them in here. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 23:54, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

: As I said above, Hitmonlee with {{M|Mega Kick}}. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 01:52, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

::I placed it [[#Level-up_otherwise_exclusive_to_Move_Tutors.3F|here]] so that we stay in a [[Generation III]]/[[Generation IV|IV]] scope. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 04:22, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Uh, Raquazza and Fly! Only he learns through level up!--[[User:Quick Man|Quick Man]] 12:57, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
*coughs* Salamence. That's like his family's evolution story line. And I think it should be at least mentioned about Abra, and how he only uses Teleport.

:Read [[Salamence#Learnset|this]] [[User:Kkllnn|Blastoise RULZ]] 20:03, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Meowth's Pay Day (Generation I's TM16) should probably be in this section as well... [[User:Blue Charizard|Blue Charizard]] 18:00, 2 April 2010

== Level-up otherwise exclusive to Move Tutors? ==

This might be useful if "signature move" is furtherly redefined. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 04:21, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

{| border=1 align="left" style="background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background: #C0C0FF;"
! [[Move]]
! [[Pokémon]]
! [[Level]]
! [[Generation]]
|- align="center"
| rowspan="4" | {{m|Mega Kick}}
| rowspan="4" | {{p|Hitmonlee}}
| 53
| {{gen|I}}
|- align="center"
| 46
| {{gen|II}}
|- align="center"
| 46
| {{gen|III}}
|- align="center"
| 49
| {{gen|IV}}
|}
 

== Level-up otherwise exclusive to breeding? ==

In the article, {{m|Octazooka}} is listed as being signature of only {{p|Octillery}}, and {{m|Present}} is listed as being signature of only {{p|Delibird}} (just to mention some), which is true only if the definition of "signature moves" includes this type of moves. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 06:06, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

{| border=1 align="left" style="background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background: #C0C0FF;"
! [[Move]]
! [[Pokémon]]
! [[Level]]
! [[Generation]]
|- align="center"
| rowspan="2" | {{m|Icicle Spear}}
| rowspan="2" | {{p|Shellder}}
| 8
| {{gen|III}} ([[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|FR/LG]])
|- align="center"
| 13
| {{gen|IV}}
|- align="center"
| rowspan="2" | {{m|SmellingSalt}}
| rowspan="2" | {{p|Makuhita}}
| 31
| {{gen|III}}
|- align="center"
| 22
| {{gen|IV}}
|- align="center"
| rowspan="2" | {{m|SmellingSalt}}
| rowspan="2" | {{p|Hariyama}}
| 33
| {{gen|III}}
|- align="center"
| 22
| {{gen|IV}}
|- align="center"
| {{m|Vacuum Wave}}
| {{p|Hitmonchan}}
| 26
| {{gen|IV}}
|}
 

== About evolved forms ==

Should stone-induced evolved forms be listed? {{p|Pikachu}} and {{p|Raichu}} appear in the article. However, the species that actually learns {{m|Volt Tackle}} is {{p|Pichu}} (making the [[Pokémon Battle Revolution#Colosseums|Battle Revolution Pikachu]] a [[Signature move#Trivia|trivia section]] material). If Raichu can appear in the list, then {{p|Togekiss}} and {{p|Mismagius}} should, too. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:36, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
:No, I think that only the Pokémon that learns the move should be listed. So Pichu should be listed, but it's evolutions shouldn't. Only if the evolution learns the move then they an be listed. So both Cubone and Marowak learn Bonemerang, therefore both should be listed. [[Image:Ani137MS.gif]][[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[Image:Ani233MS.gif]][[User Talk:Tesh|'''TALK''']][[Image:Ani474MS.gif]] 15:57, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

==Splash?==

Would [[Splash (move)|Splash]] be eligible for inclusion here? A bunch of Pokémon can learn the move nowadays, but back in Generation I it was very much [[Magikarp (Pokémon)|Magikarp]]'s trademark. A similar case is already included on the list (Petal Dance, which was exclusive to the Oddish line in Generation I). [[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]] 08:48, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

:You're right, according to the current status of the article. But I think that kind of moves shouldn't appear in the list. IMO, in any case, [[Generation III]] stuff is the only past generation that should be mentioned, as it's compatible with [[Generation IV]], but I still don't like the idea.
:I take it this all started with the ExtremeSpeed Dratini from the trivia section, right? Well, that Dratini is obsolete, too. I propose we get rid of ExtremeSpeed Dratini and there won't be need for the ExtremeSpeed Arcanine and the other obsolete groups. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:18, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

NO! Lol, we should split this article into each Generation, with a trivia section for Pokémon that do not learn a move naturally. Like Dratini in GenII. I think this would be better. <big>[[Image:Ani137MS.gif]][[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[Image:Ani233MS.gif]][[User Talk:Tesh|'''TALK''']] [[Image:Ani474MS.gif]][[User:Tesh/Other|'''FUN''']]</big> 16:20, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah... one of the things I was going to suggest was listing the likes of Splash, ExtremeSpeed and so on in a seperate table, for moves that were once exclusive to a single line, but aren't anymore. I think these moves are certainly worth mentioning somewhere in the article, as they might still be relevant to someone who's playing any of the older games. '''[[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]]'''[[Image:Ani241MS.gif]][[User_Talk:Bikini Miltank|Moo, I say.]] 23:33, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
::You mean like {{p|Blaziken}}'s {{m|Blaze Kick}}? '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]Hi''' 05:03, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Splash/Magikarp should be there, and Blaze Kick/Blaziken should have been there ages ago! '''[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|PT]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]''' 05:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

== Magnemite ==

ok, sorry about that, but i think Zap Cannon should at least be there, other than the TM, only it and Porygon could learn it in Gen II. on that note, hows about Magnet Bomb, which only they and Nosepass/Probopass can learn? '''[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|PT]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]''' 04:59, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:Skay. Magnet Bomb, however.. I think we should add that. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 05:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::idk, i still think Zap Cannon should be there. i didnt even know Porygon could learn it untill a few mins ago. '''[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|PT]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]''' 05:06, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::::As of GenIV, 13 Pokémon can learn Zap Cannon.. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 05:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::As in check the {{m|Zap Cannon}} page...'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]Hi''' 05:12, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::::ok, i thought there were notes for previous Gens. '''[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|PT]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]''' 05:20, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

now wait a minute...Tina agreed that Magnet Bomb should be added as a sig move. besides, the page even says, "can only be learned by a single Pokémon '''or a very small select group of Pokémon'''." both Magnemite and Probopass are Steel with magnet-ness. '''[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|PT]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]''' 05:29, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::So? That would mean I had to kick in the kickingfeet Pokémon and the chicken...Reasons:
#They don't seem to be related...
#Five Pokémon isn't a small group
#Tina agreed, so I'm saying the opposite...
'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]Hi''' 05:31, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::well...
::#they are related, magnet-ness alnog with both lvling up at Coronet
::#its technically only 2 Pokemon, Magnemite and Probopass, the page lists Mag's evo line and Probopass twice (for some reason)
::
::'''[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|PT]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]''' 05:37, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Ack! You win...'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]Hi''' 05:39, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::::i didnt fight because its Magnemite, i just fought for the truth! that being said, i still think Blaziken should be on there with a note about Gen 3 or somthing. '''[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|PT]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]''' 05:43, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Capitalized please...Hitmonlee and Blaziken seems select enough...'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]Hi''' 05:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

== Splitting ==

This page needs to be split up into Generations I think. There are too many prior to Genration IV. [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] [[Image:486MS.png|RAWR!!]] 20:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
:No, No. That's not needed. It's fine how it is. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:22, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
::But then we could sychronise the trivia into it as well. [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] [[Image:486MS.png|RAWR!!]] 18:11, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

== Small group? ==

Since Mathis seems to have decided to take a chainsaw to the list, I have to ask: How big is a "small group" of Pokémon? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:24, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
:small group denotes 2 evo lines. so, as seen above, with {{m|Magnet Bomb}}, only two pokemon can learn it, with the exception of their own evos. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:31, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
:: Ok. *points at the top of the page* What about {{m|Meteor Mash}} then? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 00:45, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
:::well, somone should add that to the page. along with the others in my opinion. though, it could be argued that Math earlier had the right idea. super exclusive only. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:55, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

== Staryu ==

In Generation III, [[Staryu]] was the only Pokemon who could learn [[Camouflage (move)|Camouflage]]. [[Mothim]] can now learn it in Gen IV. Nevertheless, I would assume that Staryu would count as a Pokémon with a signature move before Gen IV. -[[User:TIMMY|TIMMY]]

: Added. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 20:31, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

::Really, exactly two Pokemon knowing a move is still pretty exclusive. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 09:07, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

:::We're still missing {{p|Mothim}} on there though...I guess I'll add it unless anyone has any objections...[[User:Ht14|ht14]] 00:35, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

== Skitty ==

Well, Skitty (and Delecatty, but Skitty Evolves into that) were the only ones to know assist until Generation IV, I think Skitty deserves a mention (Delecatty doesn't scince she only learns VIA from Skitty knowing before evelution).--[[User:Quick Man|Quick Man]] 13:26, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

== Cleanup ==

This article NEEDS some cleanup... some signature moves don't make sense and some are in a lot of pokemon, so they should be removed. I think if a pokemon prior to Gen IV now learns a GEN IV move, it shouldn't be mentioned, 'cause it's obvious that another pokemon will learn the same move (for example Relicanth that learns [[Head Smash (move)|Cranidos' signature]]. in that case Relicanth should be removed). If someone doesn't agree with me, then just undo it. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 00:47, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
:It's fine. '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 00:48, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
::It's fine if it's only one or two different evolution families. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:04, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

== Crush Grip ==

What about the Combusken who has Crush Grip in PBR {{unsigned|Tannerbro}}
:That Combusken is unobtainable '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 18:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
::I have seen no proof that exsits. Can someone (an admin) hide that comment until there is a picture or video shown so we can back up such a far fetched claim? [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 02:47, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
:::No, hiding comments is virtually the same as deleting them, which isn't allowed. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 02:48, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::::I'm actually now wondering if this person was mistaking Crush Grip for the breedable {{m|Crush Claw}}... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:14, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

== Meteor Mash ==

Meteor Mash should definitely be included, like only 2 pokémon lines can learn it, and like skull bash, is listed here which also has 2 pokémon lines so why shouldn't Meteor Mash be? And why is some Hitmonlee's and other POkemon's moves are asterixed when Medicham later on has Hi Jump Kick and isnt asterixed?? It should only be asterixed when the sig move has gone completely over eg extremespeed which the others rayquaza etc arent listed... ... [[User:Wowy|--<large> "[[User:WoWy|WoWy]]"</large>''([[User talk:Wowy|><]])'']] 05:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)Wowy
:I think this article is the most controvesrial thing... I think that a signature move should be a move that onle ONE Pokémon learns... I mean these are the REAL signature moves:
:*Volt Tackle (Pikachu family)
:*Pay Day (Meowth)
:*Kinesis (Kadabra and Alakazam)
:*Barrage (Exeggcute family)
:*Bone Club (Cubone and Marowak)
:*Lovely Kiss (Smoochum and Jynx)
:*Conversion, Conversion2 and Sharpen (Porygons)
:*Spider Web (Spinarak and Ariados)
:*Pain Split (Misdreavus)
:*Octazooka (Octillery)
:*Present (Delibird)
:*Sketch (Smeargle)
:*Triple Kick (Hitmontop)
:*Milk Drink (Miltank)
:*Aeroblast (Lugia)
:*Sacred Fire (Ho-Oh)
:*Arm Thrust (Makuhita and Hariyama)
:*Teeter Dance (Spinda)
:*Poison Tail (Seviper)
:*Ice Ball (Spheal family)
:*Mist Ball (Latias)
:*Luster Purge (Latios)
:*Doom Desire (Jirachi)
:*Psycho Boost (Deoxys)
:*Attack, Defend and Heal Orders (Vespiqueen)
:*Chatter (Chatot)
:*Rock Wrecker (Rhyperior)
:*Roar of Time (Dialga)
:*Spacial Rend (Palkia)
:*Magma Storm (Heatran)
:*Crush Grip (Regigigas)
:*Shadow Force (Giratina)
:*Lunar Dance (Cresselia)
:*Heart Swap (Manaphy)
:*Dark Void (Darkrai)
:*Seed Flare (Shaymin)
:*Judgement (Arceus)

:Any other move should not be in the list, because more than a family learns it. Remember that a signature is something that's from your own and no one else. That's why repeated moves should not be in the list. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 18:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

::I agree with this. Also, {{m|Bonemerang}} is another exclusive move to the {{p|Cubone}} family. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:55, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

===Moves===
I'll add Splash becoz only Magikarp had Splash in Gen I with an asterix sign, while Meteor Mash also becoz there are some moves listed here that have more than one move per pokémon, usally two. And who said that only one family needs a signature move and when it has two it's not. I've never seen any official guide saying that. And Icicle Spear, Smelligsalt and Vacuum Wave I'll add becoz Octazooka is here which can also be bred. These moves are VERY free to undo if u wish. Oh and i'll add assist with an asterix as only skitty can learn in Gen III--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 07:17, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
:Signature moves can be bred, that's obvious, but no Pokémon can normally learn them. This article NEEDS to be redone. 'nuff said. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 12:56, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

== waterfall ==
I see someone's cleaned it up but waterfall should be included but with an * coz ONLY goldeen and seaking learnt in Gen I coz it wasnt a TM/HM there could be more moves like this--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 23:47, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
: I also noticed mimic is a signatre move for sudowoodo, however in ONLY generation II because in Generation I it was a TM, I'm not sure about MIMIC--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 23:50, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
::What about {{m|featherdance}}?--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 06:15, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

== Fact ==

Could someone add that signature moves are recommended for the pokemon learning them. Also, you forgot about the legendaries. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Xknight 511|Xknight 511]] ([[User talk:Xknight 511|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xknight 511|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:In some cases they aren't. Take for example Ho-Oh in Gen II and III. He has Higher Attack than Sp. Atk, but his Signature move focuses in Sp. Atk. So it depends on the trainer. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 07:01, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

== Sorted by generation? ==

How ab out instead of making it so pokemon has a note saying when the move isn't signature, we make a page or section on this page for each generation? [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 15:22, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:Do you mean have sections like "Signature moves in Generation I" and "Signature moves in Generation II"? If so, I think that's a great idea. [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 15:39, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
::I think that' s very good idea too. [[User:RikkiKitsune|Rikki Kitsune]] 19:28, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I've been working on this for the past month, using a Word document. But it hasn't been going so well. You see, some signature moves just came off the top of my head, but I'm having trouble remembering whether or not there are any signature moves other than the ones in my document. But don't fear, I'll get it finished soon. --[[user:Baby G|Baby G]] ([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]]) 20:58, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

== Unprotect please ==

Kenji-girl protected this article because she was losing in the edit war. I told her that I promise to stop edit warring, but she's completely ignoring me. Can someone please unprotect this article? [[User:Baby G|Baby G]] 15:38, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

== Platinum ==
Should i add Platinum signature moves, coz I added scyther with Vacuum Wave and somone took it off... Look at Serebii and it says it can learn it...--'''[[User:Wowy|WowyXD]] [[User talk:Wowy|\⁄!!!''-talk'']]''' 07:08, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
:Well, yeah Serebii knows lots of things, but he isn't very relliable at times... and you NEED to fix your signature!!! '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 22:48, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, Scyther can learn Vacuum Wave via the move relearner in Pastoria, so it is indeed one of Scyther's moves.--[[User:RiverAura|*River*]] [[User_Talk:RiverAura|*Aura*]] 00:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== Camouflage ==
Why Camouflage is here? It can be learned by two pokémon --[[User:CorsolaSplash|CorsolaSplash]] 18:32, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
:As long as it's learnable by a relative few Pokémon (out of 493, two is VERY few), it goes here. I don't know where we should put the threshold, however, but as long as less than 1% of all Pokémon learn a move (not counting their evolutions) it should go here. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
::I kinda think it should be limited to one evolution family, ESPECIALLY if two very unrelated Pokémon (like Scyther and Hitmonlee as mentioned with {{m|Vacuum Wave}} above) both know the move. If you think that's too extreme/harsh, maybe if two somewhat similar Pokémon both know the move (like if they have common design elements or something). ←{'''[[User:Berrymaster|Berrymaster]]|[[User_talk:Berrymaster|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Berrymaster|Contrib]]'''}→ 01:24, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Moves only count as signature moves if only one Pokémon are one evolution family can learn them. Besides, Hitmonchan and Scyther aren't the only 2 Pokémon that can legitimatelly have Vacuum Wave. About 30 others can learn it from the {{game3|Platinum|Platinum|}} [[move tutor|tutor]]. --[[user:Baby G|Baby G]] ([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]]) 21:01, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, that brings up a similar issue... moves that can be learned other than level-up by many, but level-only for a few. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:06, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::I used to think that level up was all that counted, but about a month ago, Kenji-girl said that other methods ({{pkmn|breeding}}, [[TM]]s, etc.) do count when it comes to signature moves. So Vacuum Wave has actually never been Hitmonchan's signature move, since several others could learn it by breeding before Platinum. --[[user:Baby G|Baby G]] ([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]]) 21:48, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

== Transform? ==

Why signature move of {{p|Ditto}} and {{p|Mew}} is the {{m|Transform}} (which is written), a {{m|Fly}} isn't a signature move of {{p|Salamence}} and {{p|Rayquaza}}. [[User:Era64|Era64]] 11:29, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:Well, for Ditto at least, Transform is its ''only'' move. Mew just has that "DNA of all Pokémon in it" deal that lets him transform.- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Phred|Phred]] ([[User talk:Phred|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Phred|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
::But it's not a signature move, since more than one Pokémon learns it by level, and Mew and Ditto aren't in an evolution family. --[[user:chocolate|Cho]][[user talk:chocolate|col]][[special:contributions/chocolate|ate]] 20:31, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
:::It's still a ''small group'' of Pokemon. So it's limited to who can learn it. Also once again I think this needs to be split into generations. [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 20:55, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
::::But Kenji-girl said that signature moves are moves only learned by one Pokémon, or one evolution family. "Small groups" don't count unless they're in the same evolution family. Also, I've been working on generation splitting for a while now, and I'm almost done. --[[user:chocolate|Cho]][[user talk:chocolate|col]][[special:contributions/chocolate|ate]] 20:59, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::It does say at the beggining of the page that they ''can only be learned by a single Pokémon or a very small select group of Pokémon''. So Mew and Transform should be on there. If it's like 3 Pokemon in different evolution families and it can be bred into others, then it isn't a signature move really. And thank you for splitting this into generations (when you're done!). [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 21:11, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Well, okay, maybe Transform isn't Mew's signature move, but it's surely Ditto's. I mean, it's the ONLY thing it can do. --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 23:50, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

==Lucario==

Aura Sphere----[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 17:47, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
:No. Several others can use it as well. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 23:53, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
::ya but some Pokémon can use other signature moves and pretty much every Lucario in the anime knows it,and I'm not sure why Togekiss learns it all other Pokémon that learn it because their legendary I mean Chimchar gets Blaze Kick by breeding but it's still Blazikens move------[[user:Ultamatecharizard|AMERICAN ELECTION TODAY!]]
:::Sigh....This is because {{p|Blaziken}} was the only one that could learn it until Gen IV... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 19:13, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
::: Lucario is no more Legendary than Togekiss. Not even more rare. --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 07:26, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

== Stop Removing Relicanth, Cranidos, Rampardos, and Mothim ==

I quote, from the top of the page: "Signature moves are moves that can only be learned by a single Pokémon '''or a very small select group of Pokémon by level-up''' (with the exception of Pikachu's Volt Tackle), usually in the same evolutionary line."
So stop removing it, ok? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 20:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
:I don't understand the idea behind "signature moves" in many evolutionary lines. Okay then, add there every other move that is in very few movepools. You, go then add Hoppip's Splash in Gen II (there was IIRC only Hoppip and Magikarp back then), Rayquaza's Extremespeed in Gen III and '''every friggin other move that is in 2 or 3 movepools''', okay? Happy hunting, though it won't change my mind about the fact that the introduction there is '''wrong'''. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 20:15, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
::Maybe they should be there; I'm personally too lazy to hunt them, and would rather either A) Keep it like it is, or B) get the intro changed, which is what you should do if you think its wrong. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 20:18, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
:::I'd do the B) if I could, but I can't be sure which way (one family or few families) is more common among players and therefore my edit would be opinionated. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 20:22, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
::::I don't know where the small group of Pokémon came from. That wasn't my idea of a signature move when I created this page. Maybe if the Pokémon were physically alike it would be okay. But Relicanth, Cranidos, and Mothim have nothing in common. Two different families should be the max if at all. Definitely not three. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::It is two families: Relicanth and Cranidos for Head something or other; Mothim's being removed for a different move, Camoflouge or however its spelled. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 22:15, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Either way, either Relicanth needs to be added because it also knows Head Smash (and is more adept at using it due to Rock Head) or Cranidos/Ramparados need to be removed.--[[User:JacobCrystal|JacobCrystal]] 16:15, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

==This page is in need of SERIOUS clean-up.==

Some moves are counted as signature when they're limited to one Pokémon. Some are counted when they're limited to two Pokémon. Some three Pokémon. Where's the limit? I think two families should be the most.(Branched families are fine.) I'd prefer only one family, but I'll accept anything, just agree on something.

Some moves are counted as "signature" if they're limited to one(or a few) Pokémon NATURALLY...other moves are counted if they're limited OVERALL. I think that TMs/HMs/tutors/"bonus" moves should not matter, Waterfall is still Goldeen and Seaking's signature move. I'd accept the other way too, but it needs to be CONSISTENT.

Not to mention a few of the asterisks are wrong...and some without asterisks could use some. Or it could be split to generations, but I think asterisks work just fine.

The Pikachu that knows Volt Tackle doesn't need to be in the one-off section. Yes, it's only Pichu's signature move...but Pikachus can normally learn it by evolving from Pichu! Pikachu shouldn't be in the table, that is correct, but it doesn't need to be in the one-off either. That should be for examples that COULD NOT happen otherwise, like the Dratini with ExtremeSpeed.[[User:Flint A|Flint A]] 20:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
:My opinion is that if a move can be learned by any or all of the Pokémon of '''one''' family naturally or by TM, it is a signature move. If a move is shared with an other family or it is a TM that can be used or a move tutor move that can be taught on more than the family in question, it is not a signature move. Event Pokémon are obviously excluded. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 22:48, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::That sounds fine to me, a more "exclusive" definition of signature move. Although if something was a signature move at one point, I'd expect it there with an asterisk. The most important thing is that a definition is made. "More is lost by indecision than by wrong decision."[[User:Flint A|Flint A]] 11:03, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

==GrassWhistle==
In GenerationIII, Roselia was the only one who could learn GrassWhistle by leveling up(to lv 29). There are many other pokemon that can learn it now in Generation IV, but it used to be a move unique only to Roselia(by level up). --[[User:PKFL 531|PKFL 531]] 01:38, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

==Removing moves==

Before I edit the actual page, I want to see if everyone agrees to this.

I was thinking of removing the following moves since they're "Signature" titles are questionable:

-----------------------
-{{m|Petal Dance}}

-{{m|Crush Claw}}

-{{m|Splash}}

-{{m|Super Fang}}

-{{m|Beat Up}}

-{{m|Pain Split}}

-{{m|FeatherDance}}

-{{m|Assist}}

-{{m|ExtremeSpeed}}

-{{m|Weather Ball}}

-{{m|Extrasensory}}

-{{m|Megahorn}}

-{{m|Waterfall}}

-{{m|Leaf Blade}}
--------------------------

Yes yes, I know that's quite a lot of moves to pick out. But let's be honest, These moves are a little too common to be "Signature" thanks to other Pokémon showing up or Pokémon learning said moves via Breeding, Level up, Move tutor, TM/HM etc.

If you don't agree with this, I'll ignore this. Or if you want only a specific move or two gone, I'll only get rid of those instead.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Ninterror}} ([[User talk:Ninterror|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ninterror|contribs]]) ''

:Personally, I think it might be better to either do away with this article, or sort in into 4 articles, one for each generaton [[User:RB Golbat|RB Golbat]] 20:37, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
::I agree with the idea of splitting them up as these moves were all once signature moves. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 00:53, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Why make a whole other article? It says in the asterisk that it was "Prior to Generation X". Just leave it as it is. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:46, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Many of those moves are already noted as being signature moves prior to a Generation, as the person above said. However, Beat Up, Crush Claw, Pain Split, Feather Dance, Assist and Extrasensory, are different. They're signature moves in that only a select few Pokémon learn ''by level up'', but can be taught in other ways. In the "Other signature move examples" section, such things are noted, where a move is learned by more than one Pokémon but only by one by level up. I say we move the mentioned moves to a whole new section for "Level Up Signature Moves", where we list the signature moves if we go by moves learned through level and not by tutor or TM or breeding. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 05:32, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

== Blast Burn, Frenzy Plant and Hydro Cannon ==

I would just like to say that I have finally added the elemental hyper beams to the bottom of the page. Feel free to delete it if you like, but I do think that this edit would help the bulbapedia community. ----GEN1[[User:Example|KING]] ''([[User talk:TALK]])'' 06:12, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
: I would disagree here. The signature moves of Charizard, Venusaur, and Blastoise have always been and will always be Flamethrower, SolarBeam, and Hydro Pump, respectively. SSBB even confirms that Charizard's signature move is Flamethrower (not Blast Burn). [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 18:13, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
::In most cases I would agree with you, but by the definition f signature move on Bulbapedia, that is extremely inacurate. Though true in a certain sense, Blastoise is not the only pokémon to learn Hydro Pump, and same goes for the rest. Also, no offense, but Super Smash Bros. Trophies are not exactly the most reliable source for canon information :p --[[User:Gen1king|''GEN'']]1[[User talk:Gen1king|KING]] 06:50, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

== Former Signature moves! ==

We should have a section for Pokémon who's moves used to be signature moves, instead of keeping them with the other Pokémon. --Kimori Geckarbor Hinoarashi 13:48, 12 December 2009 (UTC) [[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|User talk:Kimori-Hinoarashi]] "I reject your reality, and substitute my own." - Adam Savage, after being proven wrong.--''Mythbusters''

== Overhaul ==

Alright, I went for it and changed the main body to only refer to Generation IV signature moves. The list of former signature moves near the bottom might be better as some sort of table, but I'm not good at making tables and it wouldn't be like just copying the first table, as we'd need "unsignature" dates. Also, that list should not be considered comprehensive; it's just the ones that were there already plus the ones from the old list. There might be some missing.

The only controversial change I think is that I specifically limited signature moves to one evolutionary family only, but I seem to see quite a bit of support for that on the talk page and I feel it's the only sensible decision myself.
--[[User:Yoshi348|Yoshi348]] 20:04, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
:just because you "see the support" doesnt mean you just do it, you dont have that power. it has to be definitively discussed for sure. i have undone your edits, but barring a proper definitive discussion, it can be re-added. i want to see what people think in an uncluttered manor. i personally dont see a huge problem in your way, but i also think we can find a better, cleaner layout than yours. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:16, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

== Phantom asterisk ==

Pokemon that had their signature moves learned by other Pokemon with the coming of a new generation were marked with an asterisk. There wasn't a note at the bottom saying what the asterisk was for, but rather one of those things you highlight (dunno what that's called). We should at least have a note in addition to it. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 00:00, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

== Arcanine's ExtremeSpeed. ==

Shouldn't it say "Prior to Generation II"? It currently says "Prior to generation III". --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 16:10, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

:No, it was Arcanine's sig move prior to gen II, that is, before gen II. Extremespeed didn't exist prior to gen II {{unsigned|Malake256}}
:: Right. I forgot the distinction between Crystal and Gen. II. It was unique to Arcanine "Prior to Crystal". --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 07:19, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

==Metronome==
Signature moves can be moved by any pokemon knowing [[Metronome]]. My [[Togepi]] used metronome, and used [[Doom Desire]]! [[User:Panther2598|Panther2598]]
thats kind of obvious i mean metronome uses a random move from every move existing in a generation and they never said that they couldn't be used they just said that they can't be learned [[User:Juarmo|Juarmo]] 05:06, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

== Oath of Fire, Water and Grass ==

Do you think we should add that?-[[User talk:444Zekrom|444]][[User:444Zekrom|Z]][[Zekrom|ekrom]] 04:23, 03 September 2010 (UTC)
:We should wait until the games are released. For all we know, they could be used by the other starters similar to the elemental Hyper Beams. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 07:18, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

== Blast Burn, Frenzy Plant, and Hydro Cannon again ==

In Generation III, since Charizard, Venusaur, and Blastoise are the only ones who could learn those techniques, they are considered signature moves in that sense yes? So shouldn't they be added to the list and mentioned on the respective moves articles?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 05:32, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
:I'll take it. [[Move tutor]]?--[[User talk:444Zekrom|444]][[User:444Zekrom|Z]][[Zekrom|ekrom]] 10:15, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::They were only the only ones to learn those moves until [[Pokemon XD]] came out, which is still third-gen. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 10:23, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Hmm... Prior to XD? Hahaha...--[[User talk:444Zekrom|444]][[User:444Zekrom|Z]][[Zekrom|ekrom]] 07:43, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::::I think it's better not to take XD in consideration, because that game has distributed multiple signature moves, like Psycho Boost or Extrasensory. So I would say prior to generation IV--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 10:40, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== "prior to gen ..." signature moves ==

If, according to te article, Signature moves are by definition only learned by either a single Pokémon or a small group of Pokémon, then a lot of the moves listed that say they were signature moves prior to a certain generation were still signature moves, (in cases such as extemespeed, for at least until the generation after) as the definition in no way implies that the pokémon that can learn it have to be related by evolution it just states either that the move can be learned only as a level up move and even then, only by a small number of Pokémon or that the move can only be learned by level up by a small number of pokémon (in which case almost all, if not all are still signature moves). because even though the way the definition is phrased it can be rephrased either way it most certainly can't be rephrased both ways because they are different from meanings from eachother but are synonyms to different definitions of the phrase that defines signature moves. [[User:Juarmo|Juarmo]] 05:07, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

==Ultimate Starter Type Moves==
techinically, the elemental hyper beams would be no less signature moves of the gen 1 starter evolutions in gen 3 than deoxys and its psycho boost (as purified shadow Lugia knew it). In fact, probably less of one as you catch the Lugia but you recieve the XD Jhoto starters from an event (albeit an in game one but still) also if Oddish and Glooms signature that ceased to be a signature by Gen 2 is on the list shouldn't arcanine and his extremespeed be on the list too. if i remember correctly dragon's den dratini didn't count towards extremespeed not still being arcanine's signature move in gen 2 so why should the XD Jhoto starters they're both in game events. [[User:Juarmo|Juarmo]] 23:28, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

== Shadow Signature Moves ==
I think it should be noted that {{m|Shadow Bolt}}, {{m|Shadow Chill}}, {{m|Shadow Fire}} and {{m|Shadow Blast}} are {{p|Zapdos}}, {{p|Articuno}}, {{p|Moltres}} and [[Shadow Lugia]] Signature Moves in Pokémon XD. --[[User:Crikko|'''★''''''Cri''''''ққ''''''ѳ~''''''*''']] 16:52, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

== Clamp was another one of the Shellder line's signature moves... ==

...Until Gen III that is. Could somebody add this? - [[User:050294|050294]] 01:21, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

== Another idea ==

I had an idea for a new column. I would like to mention what kind of signature move they are.
*Exclusive means: Only available to the poke himself, or the evolutionary line of that poke.
*Limited means: A few other pokes can learn it as well by leveling up or by breeding.
*LU exclusive means: The move is exclusive to a certain poke line by leveling up, but several other pokes can learn it by breading or tutoring.
*Common means: The move is now available to a plenty of pokes. Only mentioned if the move used to be exclusive.
*N/A means: it didn't exist that gen.

{| class="bluetable c sortable" border="1" cellpadding="2" align="center"
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! [[List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number|#]]
!
! Name
! Move
! Gen I
! Gen II
! Gen III
! Gen IV
! Gen V
|-
| 015
| {{MSP|015|Beedrill}}
| {{P|Beedrill}}
| {{M|Twineedle}}
| Exclusive Lv. 20
| Exclusive lv. 20
| Exclusive lv. 20
| Exclusive lv. 16
| Limited lv. 16
|-
|}
--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 10:40, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:Limited would not be implemented; signature move means it is limited to an individual or family, so those are former signature moves. Level up exclusive is possible, but I don't think it should be implemented. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:24, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== Levels ==

It's not clear from which game the levels are. I also don't see the point of noting the levels.
--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 10:41, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

== Victini ==

for the 14th Movie it was said that an event Victini would be given out have the move V-Generate and Ball of Fire, as V-Generate is currently a move only an event Victini can know, should it be put in the 'one-off signature moves' section? [[User:Azure42|Azure42]] 15:38, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

== My definition of 'Signature Move' ==

I say the definition should be "A move that a Pokémon is best known for." As a result, this means that a move that is common can be the signature move of another Pokémon (for example, Rollout can be learned by several different kinds of Pokémon, but Geodude's evolutionary family may have it as their signature move, because Graveler is said to use it often down mountains in Firered's description of it). Another example is Psycho Cut - Gallade would most likely have the attack as its signature move had this description of signature move been used. --[[User:Psyblade|Psyblade]] 18:43, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

:I think it's a very good point, however, Pokédex entries sometimes state misleading facts, such as Dusclops learning {{m|Hypnosis}}, which it actually can't. So, although a good definition of "signature move", I don't think it's good enough to point Pokédex entries in the article. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 23:59, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

==Trivia?==
The trivia says, that Vespiquen is the only Pokémon with 3 signature moves, while the same is true for Kyurem (as the table says). Shouldn't it be edited? --[[User:KingisNitro|KingisNitro]] 08:46, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
:No, because Kyurem can't actually learn Ice Burn or Freeze Shock. They are speculated to be its signature moves. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:58, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

==Cubone and Marowak==
Both of these are only listed under Former Signature Moves, however both have two current signature moves. Bone Rush, out. Bone Club and Bonemerang, good. So why aren't Cubone and Marowak under the current signature moves? [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 01:10, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

== Current definition is SERIOUSLY flawed! ==

The current definition of signature move here is '''seriously''' flawed. The definition should be the move the Pokémon is most known for, not any random move that is exclusive to it. While at times moves that a Pokémon is most known for may also be exclusive to it (such as Smeargle's Sketch), that is not always the case. For example, even though Charizard was the only Pokémon able to learn Blast Burn prior to XD, Charizard is never shown using it in any Pokémon media; usually Charizard is shown using Flamethrower, and in the anime, Seismic Toss. Furthermore, Charizard is a Gen I Pokémon, and it is absurd to say that a Gen III move is its signature move, considering Charizard predates Gen III.

I really think the definition should be corrected here. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 00:05, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
:I don't think it's flawed at all. A signature move exclusive to that Pokémon. Meaning that the move can only be learned by that Pokémon. While Rollout is well know for a Miltank for example that doesn't make it a signature move. Sketch is a signature move because only one Pokémon can learn it and that is Smergle. This was discussed before. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 00:09, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

:Random move? How is it a random move when it's '''a move that can only be learned by a single Pokémon or its family'''? Just because a certain move is showed off more by a certain Pokémon does not mean it's its signature. Signature refers to a Pokémon's exclusive move which means it can only be learned by a certain Pokémon or at a certain time.

:Your definition seems to be judged by what you have seen in the anime which is biased to all other media. All things should relate to the game which are used universally. Might as well say BubbleBeam is Piplup's signature move and Thunderbolt is Pikachu's. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:18, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
::What about Ditto's Transform, which is obviously Ditto's signature move because it is Ditto's ONLY move, despite the fact that Mew can learn Transform as well? The fact is, Charizard is never shown using Blast Burn in the anime or any other Pokémon media besides the main games. Also, consider that Blast Burn is a tutored move, not a level-up move. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 00:46, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
::Plus, SSB confirms Flamethrower as Charizard's signature move. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 00:54, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

:::Leveling up has nothing to do with it. Volt Tackle is an egg move that is bred on to Pichu. There's also Meloetta who can only learn its signature move through tutoring. And again, the amount of times the move is shown in the anime has nothing to do with it. In the defense of Transform, Mew has the capability of learning every move through the move tutor in XD from Generation III and below. Though I'll give you that Mew can learn that one by level up. Not to mention that it's Ditto's only move. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:03, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
:::Also, SSB is not a true Pokémon game to be taking sources from... It's Charizard signature move in that game, not in the Pokémon games. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:03, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
::::So, could you tell me what was Charizard's signature move in Gens I and II? The definition of the word "signature" does not mean "exclusive", it means what the Pokémon is most notable for. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 06:27, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
::::Another example: Take a look at Vaporeon and Jolteon. Obviously their signature moves are Acid Armor and Pin Missile, respectively, as confirmed by their Pokédex entries. However, even in Gen I, Grimer and Muk were able to learn Acid Armor as well, and Beedrill was able to learn Pin Missile. If those aren't Vaporeon's and Jolteon's signature moves, I don't know what else can be. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 06:31, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

:::::See... the thing is Flamethrower can be other Pokémon's most known move. Every single Fire-type can learn it in some way. It's not so signature when so many other Pokémon can use it too.

:::::None of Vaporeon's and Jolteon's Pokédex entries say that Acid Armor and Pin Missile are their signature moves. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:47, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
::::::While they don't mention the moves by name, they mention that Vaporeon can melt into water, and that Jolteon can raise its fur to pierce foes. That implies Acid Armor and Pin Missile, respectively. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 15:20, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
I think you're not understanding here. Not all Pokémon have signature moves. A signature move is a move only that Pokémon or it's family can learn. Examples: Meowth {{m|Pay Day}} Chansey and Blissy {{m|Softboiled}}, The Porygon family {{m|Conversion}} and {{m|Conversion 2}}. This is what a signature move is. Your argument is incorrect. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 15:26, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
:No, that is your own interpretation of a signature move, which is clearly defective for the reasons I gave above. Unless we find an official source confirming your interpretation is correct, it is nothing but a fan implication. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 18:16, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
::Your last comment applies equally to your own definition. I suggest you take a step back and calm down. Also, [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/signature?rdfrom=Signature#Adjective signature, used as an adjective] implies distinctiveness, not commonness. Thus, the current definition is correct to the meaning of the word, so you will need very strong official evidence in order for it to change. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:17, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
:::I don't feel like the definition is flawed, but maybe an allowance for Ditto would be nice. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 15:52, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Poison (status condition)

2011-09-10T15:49:17Z

Ikarishipper900:

== Bad image ==

I think the image for this article--Ash's Gliscor poisoned--is a poor example of the Poison status ailment and should be replaced. I mean, I can't even tell what's going on; are those skyblue bubbles his eyes (like when cartoons get punched their eyes bulge out of their head)?

I personally suggest using a screenshot from the video game, like this one ([http://www.serebii.net/games/poison.png link]) which shows the key aspects of being poisoned: the "PSN" icon, purple-tinted Pokémon, and the poison bubbles popping above its head. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] 23:59, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
:Gliscors glows purple and bubbles start to appear, just like the games. I can't see how it's a poor example.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Reshiram (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Zekrom (Pokémon)|ire]] 02:37, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
::I'm with OP, it's impossible to recognize. I'd go with an in-game image of a poisoned pokemon of the most recent generation, right now being gen V. -- [[User:Kirixa|Kirixa]] 17:27, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

== Twineedle ==

The Twineedle_(move) article states that both Steel-type and Poison-type Pokémon can be poisoned by Twineedle, but in this article only Steel-type is mentioned to have this weekness. --[[User:SHoggard|sHoggard - rookie Pokéwiz]] 08:39, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
:Someone was testing this a while ago for me, and they couldn't poison a Poison type with Twineedle. I think it is only Steel types. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:28, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

== Poison in the anime ==

Ok, I'm not the first to notice this, I'm totally sure. But, uh, isn't the way normal poison completely different than the way it is seen in the battle between Ash and Paul in the Sinnoh League? Usually, the Poison is seen as a typical fever or something. Yet, in the battle, it was shown to be exactly the way it appears in the game (and is a much more accurate way). Should this be noted? [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 23:55, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
:The Sinnoh League seemed to have everything act more like the games. Spikes acted like the games rather than its previous depictions, and moves that wouldn't usually be seen due to their difficulty to explain in-universe, like Trick Room and Power Trick, were used. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:28, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

== Badly poisoned count between battles ==

If a badly poisoned Pokémon gets up to, say, its third round of being badly poisoned, then leaves the battle, it will still be badly poisoned when it enters its next battle. Will it start at round 4 of being badly poisoned, or will that reset itself between battles? ~ [[User:Serial Colour|Serial Colour]] 16:24, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
:"Switching a badly poisoned Pokémon out or a battle ending will turn the badly poisoned status into normal poison." --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 16:47, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
:: Gen V: "Switching a Pokémon out no longer changes the status to normal poison." ~ [[User:Serial Colour|Serial Colour]] 16:56, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
:::That only applies to switching. Bad poison turns to normal poison after battle. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 17:05, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
:::: Ah, okay. I thought because the Pokémon had come out of battle, it would remain badly poisoned indefinitely, not just until the end of that battle. I assume the bad poison count is saved during the battle, so that if my example switched back in later on it would be at count 4. A bit of rewording of the article is in order, then. ~ [[User:Serial Colour|Serial Colour]] 17:08, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

== Wait. ==

Is it just me, or regular and bad poison have different animation in Gen IV? [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 19:40, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
:I'm not seeing it, but it could be there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:04, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
::It is there. There's one extra toxic bubble added. --[[User:YoshisWorld|'''☆Yoshis''']][[User talk:YoshisWorld|'''World☆''']] 12:40, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
:::Oh. Now just wait to Archives to be available again. ARGH IT'S LIKE 6 (14 if counting since 20th, "the original lock") days since Pedia is unlocked but Archives aren't. ;___; [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 12:47, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

==Gen V pic==
So, Poison types still can't be poisoned, right? But isn't that Dustox poisoned? I'm slightly confused. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 15:49, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Chikorita (Pokémon)

2011-08-04T00:37:41Z

Ikarishipper900: /* A slight inaccuracy */

==Converting to Emerald Artwork?==

I notice that the Totodile Page has been given artwork from Emerald, so should we do the same for Cyndaquil and Chikorita? {{unsigned|Jonouchi}}

:Go ahead we did that to the sinnoh starters--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 22:06, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
::-_- The Sinnoh starters didn't get artwork from Emerald, they got it from Platinum. Anyways, I suppose you could, but you'll have to upload the pictures. - [[User:SpontaneousCombusken|spontaneous'''Combusken''']] 22:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

::I knew what meant SpontaneousCombusken -_- I just wasn't being specific--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 22:47, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Is there emerald art o the archives? Pluss Croconaw has TCG art--[[User:David aipom|Davidaipom]] 17:41, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Still Sugimori art... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:33, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

== Mudkip Errors ==
It says on the Mudkip Page that [[Mudkip]] is the only quadruped [[starter Pokemon]].However, Chikorita and [[Turtwig]] are quadrupeds. I am going to edit that. --[[User:4XPokeX54Z009|I like articunos and mudkips!!!]] 11:52, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
:That's true, but if you have read it more clearly, it said, "Mudkip is the only '''Water-type starter that is quadrupedal.'''"[[User:Deathgabriel|Deat]][[User talk:Deathgabriel|hgab]][[User:Deathgabriel/SandBox|riel]] 11:56, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
::And why is this on the Chikorita page? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|10% Satisfaction Guaranteed!]] 16:20, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

== That's odd ==

This page says Grovyle and Chikorita have the same height that seem odd is this a error or are they really the same size? [[User:Riggins]]

That's definitely gotta be false... if that's on the page, its gotta be removed...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 00:52, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

:No It may seem wrong but they are the same size my PokeDex says so.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 00:59, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
::Well... what do ya(he, he... I said "ya") know? I checked on the Grovyle page and its true... they are the same size... except for the anime... Grovyle are huge in the anime...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 01:03, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

I just checked my pokedex too, but ya that Pokemon for you. Some how a first stage Pokemon is the same size as a basic stage Pokemon. So maybe that should be a trivia or some thing? I'm not sure if it's even important to point out.[[User:Riggins]]
:::In my opinion, I don't think much of it should be mentioned... maybe a bit, but not much...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 01:15, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

:::It would make a very funny "Did you know..." in my In my opinion[[User:Riggins]]
::::We don't have "Did you know..."s, though...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 01:52, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yes, we have them in the Main Page... Also, this is getting too much forum like... '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 17:42, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

== Emerald Art ==

Is there a better version of the Emerald art work? I don't mean to be picky but it looks kinda choppy --[[User:Riggins|Riggy (>0.0)>]] 02:38, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
: That SO does not look like Sugimori artwork. That's not even ''from'' Emerald. 0_0 --[[User:Jonouchi|Jonouchi]] 18:59, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== HeartGold & SoulSilver Art ==

Serebii.net just got Ken Sugimori artwork for Chikorita and the other Jhoto Starters for HeartGold and SoulSilver. Can someone please get the artwork and put it on here? --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 01:02, 10 May 2009 (UTC)Dialgafan1
:Just ''wait'' it'll take a while{{tt|.|Jeesh}}--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 01:04, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

== Chikorita Sprite ==

There is a battle sprite of Chikorita that was revealed recently on Serebii.net. {{unsigned|Bluekirbystar}}
:It's not really of clear quality. People might mistake it for a beta sprite like {{img|Shaymin Sky Form Image.png|this one}}. That one was ''ripped'' from a picture that wasn't really of good quality. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 12:18, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

[[File:Screen1.png]]
::Speaking of which, we can rip the HGSS Chikorita sprite from this starter Pokémon select screen. Right? It doesn't look blurry or beta to me. :P [[User:PH1RESTRIKE| |>H1|23]][[Special:contributions/PH1RESTRIKE|•]][[User talk:PH1RESTRIKE|57R1K3]] 19:33, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Only problem is, compare the size of that screenshot with that of a real DS:

[[Image:WingAttack.png]]

Quite a bit smaller. Wait on this one. Fall comes soon enough. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:44, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

== Location ==

Why can't we just put in the location of HeartGold and SoulSilver? Same as the other 2, why!?--[[User:The Bulb's Master|The Bulb's Master]] 16:08, 16 August 2009 (UTC) The Master had a headace and needs to go to the hospital!
:The HGSS location data and Dex entries aren't being added until just before the game gets released. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:22, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

== Names?! ==
ChikoRITA, BAYLEEf, MEGANium? All female names! Though Baylee is mispelled (Bailey). Trivia worthy? {{unsigned|Derian}}
:I don't think so [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 17:47, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
::Actually, that does make good Trivia. --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 17:48, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

== Mystery Dungeon Trivia.. ==

I can't edit the article page, but can add this on the Talk Page. Right now, the article reads:

"Even though it has a 87.5% chance of being male, most Chikorita in the anime are female, including the Chikorita from the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon special and Ash's Chikorita.

'''* Also, in the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon games, Chikorita is only available as a female when chosen as a starter or partner.'''"

This was only true in Red/Blue Rescue Team. In Time/Darkness/Sky, Chikorita can be both male and female :P [[User:Tails0600|Tails0600]] 06:35, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

== Slightly Altered? ==

Chikorita's evolution line's names are hardly even changed when translated into English from Japanese. Trivia?--[[User:Maii|Maii]] 22:09, 27 November 2009 (UTC)Maii
:It's already in the trivia section... [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 22:26, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
::It should be changed because Chicorita is different than Chikorita (as there is a "c" instead of a "k". [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:44, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
:::...the fact remains that NOA used the same names, just came up with their own romanizations, if you will (in the case of Bayleef, it was probably because how the hell can you copyright "Bayleaf"). [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 22:51, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
::::I mean it says it was not changed at all while it was slightly altered. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:52, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry! I need to read articles more carefully!*facepalm*--[[User:Maii|Maii]] 23:06, 28 November 2009 (UTC)Maii♪

== Grammer Mistake ==

Hey. Sorry if this is something silly to bring up, I'm new here, but there's a grammer mistake in the article under, 'Behavior'. It reads, "Chikorita, like many Grass Pokémon, are very docile. It prefers to avoid fights by using the aromatherapeutic properties of the large leaf on its head..." In the first sentence it refers to Chikorita as a species, but after that the article uses "it", which is incorrect. The way it was used "Chikorita" was a plural subject, but after that the article uses a singular pronoun. I'm sort of OCD about grammer, so I want to change it, but I'm not sure if I can, and I'm not sure how. There are two fixes: change the first line so that the subject agrees with all the following pronouns, or change the pronouns so that they agree with the preceeding subject.
--[[User:Torchica01|Torchica01]] 22:51, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
:Chikorita are a species, so I think they should all be plural. [[User:Turtwig A|ナエトル]] [[Zoroark (Pokémon)|A]] [[Torterra (Pokémon)|or]] [[Turtwig|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] [[User talk:Turtwig A|My talk]] and my [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contributions]] 23:43, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

== A slight inaccuracy ==

''Chikorita is one of four Pokémon (five species total) that have a gender ratio of 7:1 that have had a female shown in the anime but not a male. The others are Ash's Bayleef, Togepi, Togekiss and Snivy.'' While I will agree that there hasn't been really male Chikorita shown. We don't know what Misty's Togepi/Togetic is (but I think it was referred to as Male). And Shooti's Snivy was male, Snivy don't change genders when evolving. So its inaccurate because at least with Snivy there was a male shown in the anime. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 09:02, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
:I was actually about to say the same thing in regards to Snivy. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 00:37, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Aron (Pokémon)

2011-08-03T23:40:35Z

Ikarishipper900: /* Origin */ Removed italics.

{{PokémonPrevNextHead | species=Aron |PokémonPrevNext | prev=Mawile | next=Lairon |type=steel|type2=rock| prevnum=303| nextnum=305}}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Aron |
jname=ココドラ |
tmname=Cokodora |
art=RS |
size=180px |
ndex=304 |
hdex=070 |
abrow=131 |
obrow=120 |
opbrow=094 |
typen=2 |
type1=Steel |
type2=Rock |
species=Iron Armor |
height-ftin=1'04" |
height-m=0.4 |
weight-lbs=132.3 |
weight-kg=60.0 |
abilityn=2 |
ability1=Sturdy |
ability2=Rock Head |
abilityd=Heavy Metal |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Monster |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=35 |
evde=1 |
expyield=96 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gendercode=127 |
color=Gray |
catchrate=180 |
body=08 |
pokefordex=aron |
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footnotes=}}
'''Aron''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ココドラ''' ''Cokodora'') is a dual-type {{2t|Steel|Rock}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolves]] into {{p|Lairon}} starting at [[level]] 32, who evolves into {{p|Aggron}} starting at [[level]] 42.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Aron has a round body, four stubby legs, and a large, round head. Its body is dark gray and its eyes are a pale blue. Portions of steel armor cover its head, legs, and back, which has a single spike on it. Throughout Aron's body are small openings in the armor, three on its head, one, the largest, being the opening for its eye, and one on its back below its spike. A new suit of armor is made when it evolves. The old, discarded armor is salvaged as metal for making iron products.
====Gender differences====
None.

===Special abilities===
With one all-out charge, this Pokémon can demolish even a heavy dump truck.

===Behavior===
To make its body, Aron feeds on iron ore that it digs from mountains. Occasionally, hunger may drive it to descend from the mountains to eat bridges and rails, which may produce some same major trouble and cause it to be viewed as a pest.

===Habitat===
[[File:Mountain.gif|right|frame|{{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Mountain Pokémon}}]]
It usually lives deep within mountains.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}
Aron eats metal, which sometimes leads it to eating bridges, rails, and other important items.

==In the anime==
[[Image:StevenAron.png|right|thumb|An Aron in the anime]]
Aron first appeared in ''[[AG022|A Hole Lotta Trouble]]''. {{Ash}}, {{an|May}}, [[Max]], {{an|Brock}} and [[Team Rocket]] got themselves lost in a cave full of the Iron Armor Pokémon.

Aron, together with its [[evolution|evolutionary family]] {{p|Aggron}} and {{p|Lairon}}, appeared in ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]'' where it helped {{ashfr|Ash's friends}} to stop the glacier. The group appeared again in the credits, where they were seen eating the ruins of the [[Megarig]].

An Aron appeared in ''[[DP110|Steeling Peace of Mind!]]'' and several Aron appeared in ''[[DP111|Saving the World From Ruins!]]''.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Hoenn}}
{{Animedexbody|AG022|Aron|Ash's Pokédex|Aron, the Iron Armor Pokémon. Aron has an impressive defense power and eats iron ore in order to build up the metal in its body.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Advanced Generation''|Hoenn}}

==In the manga==
{{Adv|Sapphire}} owns an Aron named [[Rono]], who evolved before facing [[Brawly]] at the [[Dewford Gym]], and after a long stay in her team during which it fought [[Team Aqua]] a few times, evolved on [[Mirage Island]] as she trained with {{adv|Ruby}} there. It was her first Pokémon.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Mangadexheader}}
{{Mangadexbody|Pokémon Adventures|[[PS188]]|To sustain its body of iron, it feeds on iron ore dug from mountains. It sometimes creates problems by eating bridges and rails.{{tt|*|Chuang Yi's translation}}}}
{{Mangadexfooter}}

==In the TCG==
{{main|Aron (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
* [[Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire]]: The EVO Mode banner features an Aron.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=steel
|type2=rock
|gen=3
|rubydex=This Pokémon has a body of steel. To make its body, Aron feeds on iron ore that it digs from mountains. Occasionally, it causes major trouble by eating bridges and rails.
|sapphiredex=Aron has a body of steel. With one all-out charge, this Pokémon can demolish even a heavy dump truck. The destroyed dump truck then becomes a handy meal for the Pokémon.
|emeralddex=A Pokémon that is clad in steel armor. A new suit of armor is made when it evolves. The old, discarded armor is salvaged as metal for making iron products.
|frlgdex=It eats iron to build its steel body. It is a pest that descends from mountains to eat bridges and train tracks.
|dpptdex=It usually lives deep in mountains. However, hunger may drive it to eat railroad tracks and cars.
|hgssdex=When it evolves, it sheds the steel carapace that covered its whole body and develops a new one.
|bwdex=It usually lives deep in mountains. However, hunger may drive it to eat railroad tracks and cars.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=steel |
type2=rock |
gen=3 |
rsrarity=Common |
rsarea=[[Granite Cave]], {{ho|Victory Road}} |
erarity=Common |
earea=[[Granite Cave]], {{ho|Victory Road}} |
xdrarity=Uncommon |
xdarea=[[Cave Poké Spot]] |
dprarity=Rare |
dparea=[[Fuego Ironworks]] ([[Poké Radar]]) |
ptrarity=Rare |
ptarea=[[Fuego Ironworks]] ([[Poké Radar]]) |
gen4ex=diamond |
hgssrarity=Unknown |
hgssarea={{jo|Safari Zone}} |
palarea=Mountain |
bwrarity=Uncommon |
bwarea=[[White Forest]] |
gen5ex=white|
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=steel
|type2=rock
|pinballrs=Hatch from egg
|trozei=[[Secret Storage 5]] [[Secret Storage 16]] Endless Level 18 [[Mr. Who's Den]]
|md=[[Mt. Steel]] (1F-8F) [[Buried Relic]] (14F-19F) [[Wish Cave]] (7F-10F)
|md2=[[Northern Desert]] (1F-8F)
|ranger2=[[Peril Cliffs]]
|ranger3=[[Wireless Tower]]
|pokepark=[[Cavern Zone]], [[Lava Zone]]
}}

===Held items===
{{HeldItems
|type=steel|type2=rock
|dppt1=Hard Stone|dppt1type=Type-enhancing item|dppt1rar=5
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=steel |
type2=rock |
HP= 50 |
Attack= 70 |
Defense=100 |
SpAtk= 40 |
SpDef= 40 |
Speed= 30 }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Steel
|type2=Rock
|Speed=3
|SpeedMax=3
|Power=4
|PowerMax=4
|Technique=2
|TechniqueMax=3
|Stamina=3
|StaminaMax=3
|Jump=2
|JumpMax=2
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{Type effectiveness|
type1=steel|
type2=rock|
Normal= 25 |
Fighting=400 |
Flying= 25 |
Poison= 0 |
Ground= 400 |
Rock= 50 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 50 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 200 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 50 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 50 |
Dark= 50 }}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh|Aron|Steel|Rock|5|3}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Tackle|Normal|Physical|50|100|35}}
{{learnlist/level5|4|Harden|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|8|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|11|Headbutt|Normal|Physical|70|100|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|15|Metal Claw|Steel|Physical|50|95|35||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|18|Iron Defense|Steel|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|22|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|25|Take Down|Normal|Physical|90|85|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|29|Iron Head|Steel|Physical|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|32|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|36|Metal Sound|Steel|Status|—|85|40}}
{{learnlist/level5|39|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|43|Autotomize|Steel|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|46|Heavy Slam|Steel|Physical|—|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|50|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|120|100|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|53|Metal Burst|Steel|Physical|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/levelf|Aron|Steel|Rock|5|3}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Aron|Steel|Rock|5|3}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM01|Hone Claws|Dark|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM05|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM26|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM28|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM37|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM39|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM40|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM65|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM69|Rock Polish|Rock|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM78|Bulldoze|Ground|Physical|60|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM80|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM94|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM01|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM04|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Aron|Steel|Rock|5|3}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh|Aron|steel|rock|5|3}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|131|Lapras}}{{MSP|143|Snorlax}}{{MSP|152|Chikorita}}{{MSP|153|Bayleef}}{{MSP|154|Meganium}}{{MSP|357|Tropius}}|Body Slam|Normal|Physical|85|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|079|Slowpoke}}{{MSP|080|Slowbro}}{{MSP|199|Slowking}}{{MSP|387|Turtwig}}{{MSP|388|Grotle}} {{MSP|389|Torterra}}|Curse|Ghost|Status|—|—|10|Tough|0}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|443|Gible}}{{MSP|444|Gabite}}{{MSP|445|Garchomp}}|Dragon Rush|Dragon|Physical|100|75|10|Cool|2}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|104|Cubone}}{{MSP|105|Marowak}}{{MSP|258|Mudkip}}{{MSP|259|Marshtomp}}{{MSP|260|Swampert}}{{MSP|409|Rampardos}}|Endeavor|Normal|Physical|—|100|5|Tough|2}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|408|Cranidos}}{{MSP|409|Rampardos}}|Head Smash|Rock|Physical|150|80|5|Tough|2||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|304|Aron}}{{MSP|305|Lairon}}{{MSP|306|Aggron}}{{MSP|410|Shieldon}}{{MSP|411|Bastiodon}}|Iron Head|Steel|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|2||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|108|Lickitung}}{{MSP|463|Lickilicky}}{{MSP|158|Totodile}}{{MSP|159|Croconaw}}{{MSP|160|Feraligatr}}{{MSP|246|Larvitar}} {{MSP|247|Pupitar}}{{MSP|248|Tyranitar}}{{MSP|252|Treecko}}{{MSP|253|Grovyle}}{{MSP|254|Sceptile}}{{MSP|293|Whismur}} {{MSP|294|Loudred}}{{MSP|295|Exploud}}{{MSP|408|Cranidos}}{{MSP|409|Rampardos}}|Screech|Normal|Status|—|85|40|Smart|1}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|108|Lickitung}}{{MSP|463|Lickilicky}}{{MSP|293|Whismur}}{{MSP|294|Loudred}} {{MSP|295|Exploud}}|SmellingSalt|Normal|Physical|60|100|10|Smart|0|*}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|246|Larvitar}}{{MSP|247|Pupitar}}{{MSP|248|Tyranitar}}{{MSP|410|Shieldon}}{{MSP|411|Bastiodon}}|Stealth Rock|Rock|Status|—|—|20|||*}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|108|Lickitung}}{{MSP|463|Lickilicky}}{{MSP|111|Rhyhorn}}{{MSP|112|Rhydon}}{{MSP|464|Rhyperior}}{{MSP|293|Whismur}} {{MSP|294|Loudred}}{{MSP|295|Exploud}}{{MSP|357|Tropius}}|Stomp|Normal|Physical|65|100|20|Tough|3}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|158|Totodile}}{{MSP|159|Croconaw}}{{MSP|160|Feraligatr}}{{MSP|621|Druddigon}}|Superpower|Fighting|Physical|120|100|5|}}{{learnlist/breedf|Aron|steel|rock|5|3}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh|Aron|steel|rock|5|3}}
{{learnlist/tutor5null}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Aron|steel|rock|5|3}}

====Special moves====

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=steel |
type2=rock |
ndex=304 |
pinballrs=Hatch |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Common |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=7.8 |
area=Mt. Cleft |
P1=I grow big on a diet of iron! |
P2=Only half my health is left... |
P3=I'm not up to it... I don't have any energy left... |
PL=I leveled up! I wish I had more iron to eat! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=no |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=6.4 |
iq=E |
Ranger2=yes |
group2=Steel |
assist2=Steel |
field2=Tackle |
field2power=1 |
browser2=It rams with its {{m|Iron Head|iron head}} to attack. |
Ranger3=yes |
group3=Steel |
assist3=Steel |
field3=Tackle |
field3power=1 |
browser3=It launches an iron ball to attack. |
Pad=Aron often plays in the [[Cavern Zone]]. He adores iron. He'll happily eat anything made out of iron! |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|family=Normal
|sprite1=304
|name1=Aron
|type1-1=Steel
|type2-1=Rock
|evotype1=Level
|level1=32
|sprite2=305
|name2=Lairon
|type1-2=Steel
|type2-2=Rock
|evotype2=Level
|level2=42
|sprite3=306
|name3=Aggron
|type1-3=Steel
|type2-3=Rock}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=steel|
type2=rock|
gen=3|
gender=none|
ndex=304|
name=Aron|
}}

==Trivia==
*Aron's name is an anagram of {{b|Oran}}; it is the only Pokémon whose name is an anagram of a Berry.
*Aron does not learn any Rock-type moves by leveling up, though it is part Rock-type. Its entire evolutionary family shares this trait.
===Origin===
Aron may have been based on a {{wp|turtle}}.
====Name origin====
Aron's name may be a combination of ''armor'' and ''{{wp|iron}}''. ''{{wp|Armadillo}}'' may also be a part of its name.

''Kokodora'' can be broken down into 子 ''ko'', child, and ''{{p|Lairon|Kodora}}''. Kodora is the Japanese name of Aron's evolution, {{p|Lairon}}, hence ''child Kodora''.

==In other languages==
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|-
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{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{steel color light}};"
|- align=center
! class="roundytl" | Language
! Name
! class="roundytr" | Name Origin
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[List of German Pokémon names|German]]
| Stollunior
| From ''{{tt|Stahl|Steel}}'', ''{{tt|Kolloss|Colossus}}'', and ''Junior''.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[List of French Pokémon names|French]]
| Galekid
| From ''{{tt|gallet|pebble}}'' and ''kid''.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]
| 가보리 ''Gabori''
|
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| class="roundybl" | [[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese (Taiwan)]]
| 可可多拉 ''Kě Kě Duō Lā''
| class="roundybr" | Transliteration of its Japanese name.
|}
|-
|}
 

==External links==

{{PokémonPrevNextFoot | prev=Mawile | next=Lairon |type=steel|type2=rock| prevnum=303| nextnum=305}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}

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Talk:Signature move/Archive 1

2011-07-13T01:10:20Z

Ikarishipper900:

Talk:Animated series move errors

2011-07-13T01:02:17Z

Ikarishipper900:

==Sorting==
There has to be a way to make it so that EP goes before AG and DP... '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:32, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

== Roark's Onix ==

Did Roark's Onix use Zap cannon in DP017 or DP018?[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 04:08, 22 January 2008 (UTC)\

neither but it did use screech
[[User: ShinyMedicham]]

== Order? ==

Are the anime moves supposed to be in order and if so, order by what? [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 13:22, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

:Order by episode. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 10:33, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

And what about the combees and psybeam in DP...errrr...Ok I dont rember which.... - [[User:Crystallucario|CrystalLucario]] 14:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I was under the impression that that was Vespiquin's Attack Order. - [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 01:24, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Attack order.... I could swore brock said psybeam...but attack order make sense... - [[User:Crystallucario|CrystalLucario]] 12:03, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

==Some of these attacks==
Some of these attack seem like Physical Attributes and are they really that notable? Like Marnie's Drifloon knowing Fly. Are we sure we can consider that its actually using the game move Fly? The pokedex does say they try to carry children away, and Drifloon can float. I know she says fly but fly itself doesn't mean its actually the move. Here about this for an example, suppose there is a large flying Pokemon with wings, but it can't learn fly in the games, when it carries someone, is it really considered to be using the actual game move Fly? --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 11:50, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:I was wondering that, too. I suppose if a trainer tells their Pokémon to use (move), then it counts. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 20:14, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:: But is saying "Pokemon, move!" the same thing as "Pokemon, use move!"? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 13:23, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Almost all Pokémon with wings can fly, but it isn't always the attack Fly. If it was the move {{m|Fly}}, they would have to hit the Pokémon not just fly away. [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 18:08, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Riolu is a similar issue. It's knowledge of {{m|Aura Sphere}} is due to it being able to manipulate [[aura]], which its species normally can't do until after evolution. In fact, for all we know, it might use that move in the game anyway. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 19:46, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

:I'd say Take Riolu off the list, In [[Pokémon Ranger Batonnage]] There is a Bonus mission to get a Riolu and if you beat it, you can transfer it to D/P and It will know Aura Sphere--[[User:Quick Man|Quick Man]] 19:57, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

::That's an abnormal method of learning it, though. Riolu can't learn Aura Sphere in the main games, anymore than Pikachu can learn Surf. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 21:54, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

:::Since the episode was specifically based on the Battonage mission, that argument is invalid.
:::I'm also seriously questioning Bulbasaur tickling Togepi being an error, especially given that the move known as {{m|Tickle}} didn't even exist back then. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 00:45, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
::::I don't even think the move Tickle was PLANNED. Seriously, Ash didn't say 'Bulbasaur, use Tickle!' Instead, he said 'Bulbasaur, tickle Psyduck!' Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''02:46 11 May 2008'''''

Also, James Hoppip using Fly is Invald, too. it Just flew with the Air current's, which is on it's Pokédex entries.--[[User:Quick Man|Quick Man]] 20:52, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

== [[Drew's Butterfree]] ==

We should include Drew's Butterfree using Protect [[User:Livinlarge18|Livinlarge18]] 22:39, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

: No....Butterfree can learn protect through TM. [[User:Mr.lol|Dean]]

== Ash's Pikachu ==

Should Ash's Pikachu using Volt Tackle be added? I know it's an egg move from Pichu, but Ash's Pikachu learned it through a different way.{{unsigned|Strawhat luffy}}
:The only issue there is the method of learning, which the writers had no choice but to cheat on. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 00:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
::You know, it could of known it all along and may have been born with the tequnique. It may have just taken it a while to figure out how to use it. Remember, games doesn't always equal anime. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:12, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
:::The problem is that games =/= anime is the whole point of this article. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 01:15, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

::::We include Volt Tackle, we include [[Misty's Azurill]]'s {{m|Refresh}}. Trust me, Pokémon in the anime can learn moves through bull**** methods without a moment's notice. For example, if {{an|Dawn}}'s newly-evolved [[Dawn's Piplup|Prinplup]] starts sparring against [[Ash's Chimchar|Ash's Monferno]] working on a bull**** method to learn {{m|Stealth Rock}} in [[DP085]], would we include that? No.

::::(For the record, the example is not indicative of any actual DP085 plot.) --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:16, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

: I think the difference though is some Pokemon can't learn/know a specific move period. And TMs don't really exist in the anime, and so most of the time a Pokemon has to learn a move by watching someone else. (Ash's Turtwig with Energy Ball). And with the case of Pikachu, all it was required to do is store it's electricity and use Quick attack, which is probably how all Pichu/Pikachu/Raichu are capable of using Volt Tackle. The anime puts more realism in the show, since the games are limited. I would be surprised if the games had a system where if you used two attacks in a row and leveled up, it would learn a move that way. And I think the point of this article is for moves that a Pokemon cannot know a move for any reason. Like if a Caterpie started using Flamethrower. It cannot know it period. But Pikachu can know Volt Tackle --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 18:57, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

How do we know that Ash's Pikachu was never a Pichu that was bred with a Light Ball? For all we know, Pikachu could have hatched under the same circumstances as an in-game Pichu that knows Volt Tackle, only for some reason it was unaware that it could use the move until that moment. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 17:52, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

== "the games" ==

Riolu's Aura Sphere seems to have exposed an issue. What are we counting as "the games"? Just the main set (RBY,GSC,RSE,FRLG & DP) or the various side games as well? For that matter, what counts as "learned"? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 10:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

I believe it counts any move that a Pokemon can learn through any method, as long as that Pokemon with that move can be brought over to a main game. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 11:00, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually, because the Riolu is transferred to D/P, Riolu does learn Aura Sphere in D/P.--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 13:23, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

That's not what "learn" means, Kuki. It can "know" Aura Sphere in D/P, but there's no way ''within D/P themselves'' for Riolu to acquire Aura Sphere; not by level-up, not by TM, not by egg-move or Heart Scale, not even by Move tutor. Even in Baatonage, the Riolu doesn't "learn" Aura Sphere as such; it shows up already knowing the move, without any indication of how it got the move. That's sort of it's whole point: it's an abberation, an anomaly; A Pokemon which knows a move it shouldn't know until it evolves. As such, Riolu's Aura Sphere belongs on the list. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:01, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:If that is the case, Ash using Aura Sphere in movie 8 should also be on the list. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 12:06, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:: *laughs* Don't tempt me. I don't think that was supposed to be Aura Sphere, though. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

== Anime errors? ==

I couldn't find an article on this, but I remember general anime errors in the cartoon that weren't move related. Like Jenny commanding a Growlithe (by calling it Arcanine) to take down Team Rocket's balloon, and Pikachu's electric attack taking out Marowak, which is equally as bad as a move error. I know there's other examples out there too..
Would it be a good idea if there be a general Anime Errors article, with the move errors being a subset of it? Or am I just crazy? Toastypk 19:25, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

We have an errors section in every anime episode's page!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 19:27, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Well we have all the move related ones here, so just a thought. Toastypk 19:29, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

== Bronzor and Teleport ==

There was really no proof that it used Teleport. All that I saw was Bronzor using Confusion on the Unown and then they were gone. Maybe Saturn as a teleportation device. Unlikely but it could happen. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:38, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

== Jynx Ice Punch/Beam ==

I don't know if this is the right place to place this but in ''The Manarin Island Miss Match'' Loreli/Prima commands her Jynx to use Ice Beam and to me it looks a lot more like Ice Punch. - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Moretacos}} ([[User talk:Moretacos|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Moretacos|contribs]]){{ #if: at 19:15, 6 July 2008 (UTC) | at 19:15, 6 July 2008 (UTC) |}}''

BUT it can learn both moves legally, and thats what we mean by errors moves they CAN"T learn in the games--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 19:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

:That was just a dub error cause the <strike>idiots</strike> people at 4Kids can't tell the difference between Ice Beam and Ice Punch. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:12, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
::I don't see why it's so hard; how do Freezing Punch and Freezing Beam sound alike at all? Panchi vs Bimu... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:05, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

== Paul's Ursaring ==

Ursaring can learn Headbutt by way of TM02 in Generation II. Perhaps Paul got his hands on a Johto TM and taught this move to Ursaring. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:18, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Exept that there are no TM's in the anime.Pikachu learned Iron tail through training, not by a TM. {{unsigned|Tomas}}

== Nosepass and Hyperbeam?==

We can't judge a Pokemon's attack solely by its appearance, just because it looked like Hyper beam doesn't mean it was hyper beam. Roxanne in the original said "denjihou" which is not hyper beam but Zap Cannon. Hyperbeam is "hakaikousen" unless someone who actually speaks Japanese would like clarify at what point did Nosepass use hyper beam. Plus it paralysing Nosepass sort of makes it final that Roxanne's Nosepass never used hyper beam. Also when has hyperbeam ever been electrical in its appearance? --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 03:26, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, I can't speak for the Japanese version. But my DVD with the dub has Roxanne saying "Zap Cannon". --[[User:Sato|Sato]] 13:17, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

: Well I did see the Japanese version, and like I said I clearly keep hearing the Japanese name for "Zap Cannon" (Denjihou). I wonder, do the people who think it is hyper beam, are basing it only on its appearance or are you actually basing it on what Roxanne said. Now I suppose its possible that in the very original (the first time this episode aired) Roxanne told Nosepass to use hyper cannon, but the version I saw, she says "Denjihou" which is Zap Cannon. Now you're probably going to ignore me because I don't speak Japanese, but I'd like to point out, I'm using these move names from someone who does speak Japanese. And like I said in July, since when has Hyper Beam been electrical in appearance. I'll gladly give the link of the version I saw, if someone needs it. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 15:01, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

== EP25 ==

When Ash's Pikachu attacks Team rocket with what Ash would usually call thunderbolt, he simply says "electric attack". Isn't that a type of special move instead?
*Depends. Is it simply a dub error, or did he say it in Japanese, too? --[[User:Fsilone|隼也]] 20:10, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

== Zap Cannon? Error? ==

I really don't think that Anabel's Espeon using Zap Cannon can be counted as a move error. If you look at Espeon's Generation II learnset (TM), you'll find TM07: Zap Cannon. [[User:SharKing|SharKing]] 21:36, 10 September 2008 (UTC)SharKing
:The same applies for Ursaring and Headbutt. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:21, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

== Other Combo Attacks ==

Wasn't there an episode where Squirtle and Pickachu combined their attacks to make a sort of electricly-charged water attack? --[[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 04:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
:Combining moves doesn't count as an error. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:32, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

== Crawdaunt ==

Didn't Kyles crawdaunt use mudshot? I'm fairly sure Crawdaunt can't learn that {{unsigned|TheAlmightyChris}}
:No, it was {{m|Sludge Bomb}}, which Crawdaunt '''can''' learn. --[[user:Baby G|Baby G]] ([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]]) 20:30, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
My mistake, thanks [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 18:39, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

== Cheryl's Mothim & Ash's Chimchar==

Cheryl's mothim used supersonic in the anime, but in the games, there's no way for him to learn it. am I right?

Ash's chimchar can't use pound, isn't it? but in the anime, it was seen using that move.

* Pound is basically just hitting the opponent, it doesn't count (just like Samurai's Pinsir using tackle in episode 1 shouldn't really count because all tackle does is plow into the opponent, any solid Pokemon can do that) {{unsigned|Blackstone Dresden}}

== Titles ==

In the exceptions section, why aren't the dub titles used?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:12, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
:Good question. I don't think there's any reason for not putting in the dub titles barring sheer laziness. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 21:15, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

== Anime Pokémon Used Moves ==

There are plenty of moves on the "Used Moves" section on the pages of anime Pokémon that they cannot learn, shouldn't those be seperate from ones they can learn? (ex. [[Satoshi's Lizardon]]/[[Ash's Charizard]], check out all those "illegal" moves!) [[User:GuyNamedSean|GuyNamedSean]] 01:13, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

== Masquerain ==

Unless I'm completely bugging, I remember (was a VERY short scene) a Masquerain using Surf in one of the contests that May entered, which of course, can't be learned by said pokemon. Anyone remember this? >_< [[User:Myzou|Myzou]] 00:03, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, I remember that scene. It could be {{m|Water Pulse}}, though. --☆'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 12:49, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

==Metagross==

Really? First off it looked nothing like lock-on used when Brandon did it. Secondly I'm pretty sure it was just in reference to Metagross's supercomputer brain. And thirdly even if somehow it was lock-on it wouldn't explain why Metagross used it, Metagross did it to come up with a strategy against Wobbuffet. Lock-on would only guarantee Wobbuffet using a counter move like Counter or Mirror Coat not surpass it. And finally it was never mentioned by Team Rocket to be Lock on. Really it was mostly a reference to it's intelligence not a move itself. I thought that was pretty obvious given those "Fakey Equations" going through Metagross's eyes. I mean what Supercomputer is incapable of figuring out the angles and what needs to be done. With Lock-on the move it may have nothing to do with intelligence but in Metagross's case it was. So I think Metagross should be removed due to lack of evidence. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 10:19, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

== A Dusknoir with Rapid Spin ==

In Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky anime special, Dusknoir used Rapid Spin, which it can't learn in the games. Also, what's the attack called that Dusknoir used on the ghost girl in Ghoul Daze?--[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 23:03, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I think it was will-o-wisp. [[User:Poisson14|Poisson14]] 01:35, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

== If your going.. ==

..to have a page listing this stuff then you may as well have a page listing the fact that in the anime Pokemon can learn more then 4 moves unlike the game. When Krabby evolved into Kingler it used 5 moves after evolving. And half of these moves listed are just the Pokemon doing things they could normally do if they were real which the anime makes out they are cause in the games you can't tell a Pokemon to dodge an attack or use an attack at the same time as an opponent. Also the comments about Counter for Caterpie and such IIRC Ash merely said for Caterpie to counter the attack not meaning use the counter attack but to do something to counter it which could be understandable since he could have not known the attacks it could use. Also if your adding things to this page then why not have that Brock's Onix used Wrap on many occasions? And Ash's Larvitar didn't use the ''move'' Harden, it just Hardened up which is an expression like clamming up. The anime doesn't follow the same rules as the games. To me this page seems a bit of a waste.--[[User:Lycos Ex Mortis|Lycos Ex Mortis]] 10:50, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
:A whole page about that would be a waste. And I don't think they've ever used more than 4 moves in an episode. But aside from that, they could learn new moves. Basically, what you're saying is that we should also (if we made the page) add Ash's Pikachu to that page, since it has used more than 4 moves. Which is why the page would be a waste, because we'd be adding most of the main characters' Pokémon to the page, and only them. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 12:30, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
::Besides, there is a [[Differences between the games and anime]] page, that help point out the major differences between both versions, might want to check it out, but think carefully if you want to contribute because if you unintentionally post something that would be considered noteworthy, then I guarantee it will be removed. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 02:31, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

== Mewtwo ==

Should Mewtwo using Shadow Ball before it was introduced be in the "less blatant examples" section? [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 21:02, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
: If "we" did that, we'd have to include all of the anime moves that came out before the games. Such as Aura Sphere, and what I'm assuming is "Night Burst" with Zoroark, as well as Blaziken's Blaze Kick. It could be a slippery slope. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 21:21, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
::Except those Pokémon were from the generations the moves debuted, unlike Mewtwo. --[[User:Goldenpelt|Gοlden]][[User talk:Goldenpelt|pelt]] 05:34, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Oh. Well, i have another thing i think should be in the less blatant examples. Brock's Ludicolo knows Water Gun and Razor Leaf, and while it can learn both of those through breeding, it cannot have them both at once. What do you think? [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 00:06, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, that sounds reasonable. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:06, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

== Markings for dub errors ==

I think there should be a special mark for moves in which the dub made a mistake, not the original. Like Bulbasaur's Whirlwind and Vulpix's Agility. Maybe we could also have marks for moves that were incorrectly named in the original. Like Nosepass's Hyper Beam. Clearly, it was an electrical attack. Just a suggestion. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:49, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:We could just add * with {{template|tt}} next to the move name mentioning that it only affects X language. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:59, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

== Horsea's "Sludge" ==

In EP019, Horse was spraying ink, not sludge. So the move Horsea was actually using would be {{tt|Octazooka|yes, I know it wasnt around then}}, a move Horsea can learn through breeding. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 00:09, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
:So it wasn't stated to be Sludge, or even an attack? If so, the entry here and the move on Horsea's page need to be fixed, and the image should be deleted. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:57, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
::No, all they said was "Horsea's trying to tell us something", I've fixed this page, and the pages for Misty's Horsea and Sludge, I think the image can be removed since it's not used anywhere else. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 09:32, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Based on what you've said, it seems unlikely to even be Octazooka, rather, it is just spitting ink. Unless it was stated to be that move, I don't think it should be considered as such. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:25, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Thats fine, I just assumed it would be accepted as Octazooka as I thought it would be obvious, like how Shadow Ball and Rollout were used in M01, depite appearing before Gen II and not being reffered to as such. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 11:40, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Comparing it to Octazooka's other anime appearances, it is not very similar. {{tt|And it is very early in the anime for a next Generation move to appear|don't bring Ho-Oh into this}}. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:31, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

== Sprites ==

I was reading this page, and noticed that the Pokémon sprites are ones from Platinum (I've never played DP, so it could be those). Shouldn't they be changed to HGSS or BW sprites? --[[User:Nathan2055|Nathan2055]] 22:25, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
:Those files show the current sprites. I am certain they're from BW. If they're not, then they need to be updated. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 22:30, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
::Oops, the BW sprites look a ''lot'' like DP sprites. --[[User:Nathan2055|Nathan2055]] 22:35, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

== James' Wheezing ==

In the Less blatant examples section it says:
In another episode, Weezing is seen carrying James while levitating.
First, Wheezing only possible ability (counting Dream World abilities) is Levitate. It also does not specifically say which episode this occurred in. --[[User:Nathan2055|Nathan2055]][[User Talk:Nathan2055|talk]] 02:51, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
:That was me, I did leave a note in the edit summary, but obviousy nobody seen it. The animation style would suggest that it is after EP261 and it would have to be before EP280, when Weezing and Arbok were dumped. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 03:13, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

== Episode 5 ==

I could find any other place to put this and i am not sure if it is just the player i am using. but when ash hands pikachu over to nurse Joy for a second there are 2 pikachus. [[User:Angel10698|Angel10698]] 20:17, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
:[[EP005#Errors|Each article has a errors section.]] [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:01, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
::Just checked; didn't see it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:05, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
oh....then it must be the player i am using. sorry. [[User:Angel10698|Angel10698]] 23:26, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
i know each article has an error section but i wasn't sure if i was authorized to put stuff like that in. so i looked for the talk section and couldn't find one.[[User:Angel10698|Angel10698]] 23:28, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
:::There is still a possibility that no one saw that error, but I don't remember seeing that when I watched it. --[[User:Nathan2055|Nathan2055]][[User Talk:Nathan2055|talk]] 19:26, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

== [[Misty's Staryu]] (and Ash's Caterpie too, for that matter) ==

Are we sure that they're actually using the move [[Counter (move)|Counter?]] What stops it from being just an order to counter-attack? Staryu's attack looks nothing like Counter when used by Wobbuffet or Houndoom use it. There is no glow or anything, all it does is jump out of the water and use another Tackle. Considering that neither Staryu or Caterpie can learn it, I think it would make perfect sense that it wasn't really Counter being used, just an order to launch any attack of its own. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|Toon Ganondorf ]] [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|(t]] [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|c)]]''' 08:48, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

== Regigigas's Hammer Arm ==

OK, apparently other people seem to think it DID use Hammer Arm. Rather than remove it again and start an edit war, I'm going to state why I think it didn't use Hammer Arm. First, the attack's name was never identified. Second, so Regigigas's fist glowed and it hit the Regi trio with it. That's not only a trait of Hammer Arm, but it can also apply to Focus Punch or Mega Punch, both of them being moves Regigigas CAN learn. Would it not make sense to assume one of those first?

As for Entei's Hypnosis, it's not a real Entei, so it shouldn't be counted as an error. I believe that for a similar reason we didn't include Dr. Yung's Aggron's Bullet Seed, as said Aggron was a Mirage Pokémon. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 12:56, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
:Yes, Hammer Arm wasn't identified, but still, I believe it was Hammer Arm. As opposed to Focus or Mega Punch, Regigigas's arms up to its elbows were white. It raised its arms above its head, and then slammed the Regis down into the ground with its forearms. Keyword: foreams. Focus and Mega Punch are just that, a punch; so it wasn't a punch. Hmm, though I do see your point about Entei, however. It wasn't a real Pokemon, so it probably could learn moves it can't learn on its own. 0-0 I guess my opinion would be feel free to take that off. ^-^ [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 14:28, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
::Alright, yeah, I see what you mean. Could've been Hammer Arm, then, though I swear that when I saw the episode, I was thinking Focus Punch. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 16:18, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
:::With the more newer episodes, such as that one, Focus Punch is usually associated with a light blue aura around the fist, as well. ^-^ [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 16:47, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
::::Personally, I don't really agree with Hypnosis's removal. I could understand that the fake Entei could use moves it cant normally learn, but every other move it uses are normal moves for Entei. If it used a whole bunch of other moves like Hydro Pump or Ice Beam then fine, but it appears as though it was a genuine error.

::::Though if it does not actually send the other Pokemon to sleep, then I'm fine with removing it (I cant remember this part of the film). '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 17:04, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
:::::In the movie, Entei uses it to control Delia and make her believe that she is Molly's Mom instead of Ash's. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 17:17, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

== Constrict ==

Does Duplica's ditto (as Ash's Bulbasaur) actually use constrict? It is not mentioned in the dub, was it mentioned in Japanese? '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 00:39, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

==Nuzleaf==
Nuzleaf has a Grasswhistle error which is mentioned in the main part of the article and in the minor errors section. Which section does it belong in, and can the other be removed? [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 01:02, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Artisan Cave

2011-07-13T00:53:14Z

Ikarishipper900:

Nowhere on this page does it say how to get INTO the artisan cave. I have tried everything I can think of. Perhaps make a note somewhere on the page of how to get in? [[User:Nokota|Nokota]] 00:43, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
:After you deal with Sudowoodo, can't you just Surf, go down the water, and go to the left? That's what the map looks like anyway. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 00:53, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Mantine (Pokémon)

2011-07-11T15:42:01Z

Ikarishipper900:

''Mantine is the second Pokémon to have more than one Pokémon in one of its sprites. The first is Kangaskhan, although Kangaskhan is just holding its own baby, not a Pokémon of an entirely different species.''
:What about Slowbro and Slowking? I'd have thought the Shellder in their sprites would count... [[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]] 14:59, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I've always thought it would count too...--[[User:Maii|Maii]] 19:19, 16 October 2009 (UTC)Maii

*Shouldn't we put something like how Mantine is the only Pokémon that requires another Pokémon for evolution, thus Mantyke cannot be evolved when the only Pokémon in its party.
**AND Mantine is the only Pokémon to have another Pokémon obtainable in the games in its sprite.
And maybe something about how real Remoras eat plankton off of sharks, just to consider it.

Oops, forgot to sign. ----[[User:Zewis29|Zewis29]] ([[User talk:Zewis29|Talk]], [[Special:Contributions/Zewis29|Contribs]]) 02:33, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia bullet #3 ==
''Mantine's shiny sprites in the second and third Generations also show the Remoraid attached to it to be an alternate color; however, they are depicted as light blue rather than gray or pink, the usual color of a shiny Remoraid.''
:In G/S/C, the Remoraid is tan in the non-shiny sprites due to color limitations, and turns its normal light-blue in Mantine's shiny form. In Gen 3, the Remoraid stays the same color in both forms apart from a few pixels. --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|IWannaBeTheVeryBest]] 21:35, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

==Trivia?==
Is it worth noting that although Mantyke's evolution requires a Remoraid in the party, neither Generation IV nor Generation V show a Remoraid in Mantine's sprite? That seemed odd to me, but I wasn't sure. (I know we're not doing trivia now. I meant when we get to a point where we are.) [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 15:42, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Brendan (game)

2011-07-06T20:41:33Z

Ikarishipper900: /* Littleroot Town (1st Visit) */ Changed capitalization some.

{{CharInfobox |
color={{ruby color}} |
corecolor={{ruby color light}} |
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}} |
name=Brendan |
jname=ユウキ |
tmname=Yūki |
image=Emerald Brendan.png |
size=200px |
caption=Art from {{v2|Emerald}} |
gender=Male |
hometown=[[Littleroot Town]] |
region=[[Hoenn]] (originally [[Johto]] if chosen by the player) |
relatives=Mom, [[Norman]] (as player) [[Professor Birch]], unnamed mother and brother[[Pokémon Emerald Version|*]] (as rival) |
colors=no |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]], [[Player character]] |
numpkmncaught=Varies with canon |
game=yes |
generation={{gen|III}} |
games={{3v2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}} |
leader=no |
anime=no |
anime=cameo|
epnum=M06 |
epname=Jirachi: Wish Maker|
manga=counterpart |
mangacounterpart={{adv|Ruby}} |
roundnum=PS181|
roundname=VS. Cacnea |
}}
'''Brendan''' (Japanese: '''ユウキ''' ''Yūki'') is the male choice for the [[player character]] in {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}, and also serves as the [[rival]] in the same games if the player chooses to play as the {{ga|May|female character}}.
==In the games==
===As player===
If Brendan is selected as the player character he starts his journey moving from his home in Johto to his new home in the town of Littleroot in Hoenn. After saving Prof. Birch from a wild Pokémon, he is given one of the three starters of the Hoenn region. Brendan develops a close bond with {{ga|May}}, and eventually [[Wally]], who both act as his rivals. Brendan goes on to gather the eight badges of Hoenn, stop the plans of [[Team Aqua]] and/or [[Team Magma]] and conquer the Pokémon League all before going off to face the Battle Frontier (in Emerald).

====Names====
While the player can name this character as is the case with all player characters, there are several default names provided for him. In {{v2|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}, he has four default names, including three shared between the two versions. The two variant names between games collaborates with the theme of the plot, referring to "land" and "sea" respectively.

In the English version, these names are '''Land'''on and '''Sea'''n; in the Japanese version, リクヤ '''''Riku'''ya'' and カイト '''''Kai'''to'' (陸 ''riku'' means land and 海 ''kai'' means sea). This is also the case in other languages. Additionally, in the English version, two of the shared names—Terry and Seth—seem to be influenced by the same theme.

In all translated versions of {{v2|Emerald}}, Brendan has the same default names as in Pokémon Ruby, as well as 16 additional names which don't seem to hold any significance. Consequently, there is no default name that relates to "sea" in Emerald. Notably, as the player character, the name Brendan (or its other language counterparts) is never offered as a default name in any version.

As a rival, Brendan's name is static.

The full list of default names for Brendan as the male playable character in the games are as follows:
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ruby color}};"
! Language !! Ruby and Emerald !! Sapphire !! Emerald only
|-
|| English
||
* ''Landon''
* ''Terry''
* ''Seth''
* ''Tom''
||
* ''Sean''
* ''Terry''
* ''Seth''
* ''Tom''
||
{|
|-
|
* ''Brett''
* ''Casey''
* ''Collin''
* ''Darren''
|
* ''Easton''
* ''Jaxson''
* ''Johnny''
* ''Jude''
|
* ''Kenny''
* ''Milton''
* ''Quincy''
* ''Reid''
|
* ''Stanley''
* ''Stu''
* ''Teru''
* ''Walker''
|}
|-
|| Japanese
||
* リクヤ ''Rikuya''
* ヒロアキ ''Hiroaki''
* ヒトシ ''Hitoshi''
* ケイ ''Kei''
||
* カイト ''Kaito''
* ヒロアキ ''Hiroaki''
* ヒトシ ''Hitoshi''
* ケイ ''Kei''
||
{|
|-
|
* イツオ ''Itsuo''
* ギョク ''Gyoku''
* シュウサク ''Shūsaku''
* セイゴ ''Seigo''
* ダイサク ''Daisaku''
* タカヒト ''Takahito''
* タツヤ ''Tatsuya''
* ダニエル ''Daniel''
|
* テルキ ''Teruki''
* トム ''Tom''
* トモヤ ''Tomoya''
* ユキヒコ ''Yukihiko''
* ラルド ''Rald''
* リチャード ''Richard''
* リュウ ''Ryū''
* リョウタ ''Ryōta''
|}
|-
|| German
||
* ''Roland''
* ''Daniel''
* ''Helge''
* ''Jan''
||
* ''Sebold''
* ''Daniel''
* ''Helge''
* ''Jan''
||
{|
|-
|
* ''Anselm''
* ''David''
* ''Dieter''
* ''Erik''
|
* ''Florian''
* ''Haiko''
* ''Johann''
* ''Jörg''
|
* ''Klaus''
* ''Markus''
* ''Martin''
* ''Michael''
|
* ''Paul''
* ''Rolf''
* ''Stefan''
* ''Thomas''
|}
|-
|| Spanish
||
* ''Teren''
* ''Quimi''
* ''Rufo''
* ''Arturo''
||
* ''Marino''
* ''Quimi''
* ''Rufo''
* ''Arturo''
||
{|
|-
|
* ''Aitor''
* ''Arturo''
* ''Carlo''
* ''Daniel''
|
* ''Eleno''
* ''Enrique''
* ''Jesuso''
* ''Juli''
|
* ''Lareo''
* ''Luis''
* ''Marcelo''
* ''Marco''
|
* ''Mario''
* ''Mauri''
* ''Roberto''
* ''Pedro''
|}
|-
|| French
||
* ''Thierry''
* ''Thomas''
* ''Daniel''
* ''Seb''
||
* ''Martial''
* ''Thomas''
* ''Daniel''
* ''Seb''
||
{|
|-
|
* ''Alec''
* ''Arno''
* ''Colin''
* ''Daniel''
|
* ''Fabrice''
* ''Gary''
* ''Gibus''
* ''Johann''
|
* ''Johnny''
* ''Jules''
* ''Manuel''
* ''Ruddy''
|
* ''Severin''
* ''Stan''
* ''Stef''
* ''Thibaud''
|}
|-
|| Italian
||
* ''Landon''
* ''Marco''
* ''Paolo''
* ''Lucio''
||
* ''Martin''
* ''Marco''
* ''Paolo''
* ''Lucio''
||
|}

===As rival===
If Brendan is not selected as the player, he is helping his dad finish the Hoenn [[Pokédex]] and becoming a Pokémon professor. He is also the player's rival and friend. Unlike other [[rival]]s (except for {{ga|May}} when playing as Brendan), he gives up being a [[Pokémon Trainer|Trainer]], making them the only rivals unavailable for battle after defeating the [[Elite Four]]. Additionally, they both are the only ones to not [[evolution|evolve]] their [[starter Pokémon]] into its final form.

In the games he appears in, Brendan battles with the following Pokémon.

====Pokémon in Ruby and Sapphire====
=====First battle=====
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}300
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 103
|locationname=Route 103
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=255
|pokemon=Torchic
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Scratch|move1type=Normal
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal}}
}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}300
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 103
|locationname=Route 103
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=258
|pokemon=Mudkip
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal}}
}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}300
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 103
|locationname=Route 103
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=252
|pokemon=Treecko
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Pound|move1type=Normal
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal}}
}}

=====Second battle=====
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1200
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 110
|locationname=Route 110
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=285
|pokemon=Shroomish
|gender=female
|level=18
|type1=Grass
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Unknown
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal
|move2=Stun Spore|move2type=Grass
|move3=Leech Seed|move3type=Grass
|move4=Mega Drain|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=320
|pokemon=Wailmer
|gender=male
|level=18
|type1=Water
|ability=Water Veil
|held=Unknown
|move1=Splash|move1type=Water
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal
|move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water
|move4=Rollout|move4type=Rock}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=256
|pokemon=Combusken
|gender=male
|level=20
|type1=Fire|type2=Fighting
|ability=Blaze
|held=Unknown
|move1=Focus Energy|move1type=Normal
|move2=Ember|move2type=Fire
|move3=Double Kick|move3type=Fighting
|move4=Peck|move4type=Flying}}
}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1200
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 110
|locationname=Route 110
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=285
|pokemon=Shroomish
|gender=female
|level=18
|type1=Grass
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Unknown
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal
|move2=Stun Spore|move2type=Grass
|move3=Leech Seed|move3type=Grass
|move4=Mega Drain|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=322
|pokemon=Numel
|gender=female
|level=18
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Unknown
|move1=Growl|move1type=Normal
|move2=Tackle|move2type=Normal
|move3=Ember|move3type=Fire}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=259
|pokemon=Marshtomp
|gender=male
|level=20
|type1=Water
|type2=Ground
|ability=Torrent
|held=Unknown
|move1=Water Gun|move1type=Water
|move2=Bide|move2type=Normal
|move3=Mud Shot|move3type=Ground
|move4=Foresight|move4type=Normal}}
}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1200
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 110
|locationname=Route 110
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=320
|pokemon=Wailmer
|gender=male
|level=18
|type1=Water
|ability=Water Veil
|held=Unknown
|move1=Splash|move1type=Water
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal
|move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water
|move4=Rollout|move4type=Rock}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=322
|pokemon=Numel
|gender=female
|level=18
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Unknown
|move1=Growl|move1type=Normal
|move2=Tackle|move2type=Normal
|move3=Ember|move3type=Fire}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=253
|pokemon=Grovyle
|gender=male
|level=20
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|held=Unknown
|move1=Absorb|move1type=Grass
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal
|move3=Fury Cutter|move3type=Bug
|move4=Pursuit|move4type=Dark}}
}}

=====Third battle=====
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1860
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 119
|locationname=Route 119
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=285
|pokemon=Shroomish
|gender=female
|level=29
|type1=Grass
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Unknown
|move1=Headbutt|move1type=Normal
|move2=PoisonPowder|move2type=Poison
|move3=Leech Seed|move3type=Grass
|move4=Mega Drain|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=320
|pokemon=Wailmer
|gender=male
|level=29
|type1=Water
|ability=Water Veil
|held=Unknown
|move1=Rollout|move1type=Rock
|move2=Astonish|move2type=Ghost
|move3=Water Pulse|move3type=Water
|move4=Whirlpool|move4type=Water}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=256
|pokemon=Combusken
|gender=male
|level=31
|type1=Fire|type2=Fighting
|ability=Blaze
|held=Unknown
|move1=Double Kick|move1type=Fighting
|move2=Bulk Up|move2type=Fighting
|move3=Sand-Attack|move3type=Ground
|move4=Peck|move4type=Flying}}}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1860
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 119
|locationname=Route 119
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=285
|pokemon=Shroomish
|gender=female
|level=29
|type1=Grass
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Unknown
|move1=Headbutt|move1type=Normal
|move2=PoisonPowder|move2type=Poison
|move3=Leech Seed|move3type=Grass
|move4=Mega Drain|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=322
|pokemon=Numel
|gender=female
|level=29
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Unknown
|move1=Ember|move1type=Fire
|move2=Magnitude|move2type=Ground
|move3=Focus Energy|move3type=Normal
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=259
|pokemon=Marshtomp
|gender=male
|level=31
|type1=Water|type2=Ground
|ability=Torrent
|held=Unknown
|move1=Mud Shot|move1type=Ground
|move2=Mud Sport|move2type=Ground
|move3=Foresight|move3type=Normal
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1860
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 119
|locationname=Route 119
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=320
|pokemon=Wailmer
|gender=male
|level=29
|type1=Water
|ability=Water Veil
|held=Unknown
|move1=Rollout|move1type=Rock
|move2=Astonish|move2type=Ghost
|move3=Water Pulse|move3type=Water
|move4=Whirlpool|move4type=Water}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=322
|pokemon=Numel
|gender=female
|level=29
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Unknown
|move1=Ember|move1type=Fire
|move2=Magnitude|move2type=Ground
|move3=Focus Energy|move3type=Normal
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=253
|pokemon=Grovyle
|gender=male
|level=31
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|held=Unknown
|move1=Leaf Blade|move1type=Grass
|move2=Screech|move2type=Normal
|move3=Fury Cutter|move3type=Bug
|move4=Pursuit|move4type=Dark}}}}

=====Fourth battle=====
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}2040
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Lilycove City
|pokemon=4
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=277
|pokemon=Swellow
|gender=female
|level=31
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying
|ability=Guts
|held=Unknown
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal
|move2=Wing Attack|move2type=Flying
|move3=Endeavor|move3type=Normal
|move4=Double Team|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=320
|pokemon=Wailmer
|gender=male
|level=32
|type1=Water
|ability=Water Veil
|held=Unknown
|move1=Mist|move1type=Ice
|move2=Astonish|move2type=Ghost
|move3=Water Pulse|move3type=Water
|move4=Whirlpool|move4type=Water}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=285
|pokemon=Shroomish
|gender=female
|level=32
|type1=Grass
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Unknown
|move1=Headbutt|move1type=Normal
|move2=PoisonPowder|move2type=Poison
|move3=Leech Seed|move3type=Grass
|move4=Mega Drain|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=256
|pokemon=Combusken
|gender=male
|level=34
|type1=Fire|type2=Fighting
|ability=Blaze
|held=Unknown
|move1=Double Kick|move1type=Fighting
|move2=Bulk Up|move2type=Fighting
|move3=Sand-Attack|move3type=Ground
|move4=Peck|move4type=Flying}}}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}2040
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Lilycove City
|pokemon=4
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=277
|pokemon=Swellow
|gender=female
|level=31
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying
|ability=Guts
|held=Unknown
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal
|move2=Wing Attack|move2type=Flying
|move3=Endeavor|move3type=Normal
|move4=Double Team|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=285
|pokemon=Shroomish
|gender=female
|level=32
|type1=Grass
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Unknown
|move1=Headbutt|move1type=Normal
|move2=PoisonPowder|move2type=Poison
|move3=Leech Seed|move3type=Grass
|move4=Mega Drain|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=322
|pokemon=Numel
|gender=female
|level=32
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Unknown
|move1=Amnesia|move1type=Psychic
|move2=Magnitude|move2type=Ground
|move3=Focus Energy|move3type=Normal
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=259
|pokemon=Marshtomp
|gender=male
|level=34
|type1=Water|type2=Ground
|ability=Torrent
|held=Unknown
|move1=Mud Shot|move1type=Ground
|move2=Mud Sport|move2type=Ground
|move3=Foresight|move3type=Normal
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}2040
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Lilycove City
|pokemon=4
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=277
|pokemon=Swellow
|gender=female
|level=31
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying
|ability=Guts
|held=Unknown
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal
|move2=Wing Attack|move2type=Flying
|move3=Endeavor|move3type=Normal
|move4=Double Team|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=322
|pokemon=Numel
|gender=female
|level=32
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Unknown
|move1=Amnesia|move1type=Psychic
|move2=Magnitude|move2type=Ground
|move3=Focus Energy|move3type=Normal
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=320
|pokemon=Wailmer
|gender=male
|level=32
|type1=Water
|ability=Water Veil
|held=Unknown
|move1=Mist|move1type=Ice
|move2=Astonish|move2type=Ghost
|move3=Water Pulse|move3type=Water
|move4=Whirlpool|move4type=Water}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=253
|pokemon=Grovyle
|gender=male
|level=34
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|held=Unknown
|move1=Leaf Blade|move1type=Grass
|move2=Screech|move2type=Normal
|move3=Fury Cutter|move3type=Bug
|move4=Pursuit|move4type=Dark}}}}

====Quotes in Ruby and Sapphire====
{{incomplete|section}}
====Pokémon in Emerald====
=====First battle=====
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=E Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}300
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=E
|location=Hoenn Route 103
|locationname=Route 103
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=255
|pokemon=Torchic
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Scratch|move1type=Normal
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal}}
}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=E Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}300
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=E
|location=Hoenn Route 103
|locationname=Route 103
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=258
|pokemon=Mudkip
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal}}
}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=E Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}300
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=E
|location=Hoenn Route 103
|locationname=Route 103
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=252
|pokemon=Treecko
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Pound|move1type=Normal
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal}}
}}

=====Second battle (Optional)=====
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=E Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}900
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=E
|location=Rustboro City
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=270
|pokemon=Lotad
|gender=female
|level=13
|type1=Water|type2=Grass
|ability=Swift Swim
|held=Unknown
|move1=Nature Power|move1type=Normal
|move2=Absorb|move2type=Grass
|move3=Growl|move3type=Normal
|move4=Astonish|move4type=Ghost}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=278
|pokemon=Wingull
|gender=female
|level=13
|type1=Water|type2=Flying
|ability=Keen Eye
|held=Unknown
|move1=Growl|move1type=Normal
|move2=Water Gun|move2type=Water
|move3=Supersonic|move3type=Normal
|move4=Wing Attack|move4type=Flying}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=255
|pokemon=Torchic
|gender=male
|level=15
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|held=Unknown
|move1=Scratch|move1type=Normal
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal
|move3=Focus Energy|move3type=Normal
|move4=Ember|move4type=Fire}}
}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=E Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}900
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=E
|location=Rustboro City
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=270
|pokemon=Lotad
|gender=female
|level=13
|type1=Water|type2=Grass
|ability=Swift Swim
|held=Unknown
|move1=Nature Power|move1type=Normal
|move2=Absorb|move2type=Grass
|move3=Growl|move3type=Normal
|move4=Astonish|move4type=Ghost}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=218
|pokemon=Slugma
|gender=female
|level=13
|type1=Fire
|ability=Unknown
|held=Unknown
|move1=Ember|move1type=Fire
|move2=Smog|move2type=Poison
|move3=Curse|move3type=???
|move4=SmokeScreen|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=258
|pokemon=Mudkip
|gender=male
|level=15
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|held=Unknown
|move1=Bide|move1type=Normal
|move2=Mud-Slap|move2type=Ground
|move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water
|move4=Growl|move4type=Normal}}
}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=E Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}900
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=E
|location=Rustboro City
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=278
|pokemon=Wingull
|gender=female
|level=13
|type1=Water|type2=Flying
|ability=Keen Eye
|held=Unknown
|move1=Wing Attack|move1type=Flying
|move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal
|move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water
|move4=Growl|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=218
|pokemon=Slugma
|gender=female
|level=13
|type1=Fire
|ability=Unknown
|held=Unknown
|move1=Ember|move1type=Fire
|move2=Smog|move2type=Poison
|move3=Curse|move3type=???
|move4=SmokeScreen|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=252
|pokemon=Treecko
|gender=male
|level=15
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|held=Unknown
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal
|move2=Absorb|move2type=Grass
|move3=Leer|move3type=Normal
|move4=Pound|move4type=Normal}}
}}

=====Third battle=====
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}1350|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Hoenn Route 110 |
locationname=Route 110 |
pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=278|
pokemon=Wingull|
gender=female|
level=18|
ability=Keen Eye|
type1=Water|type2=Flying|
move1=Wing Attack|move1type=Flying|
move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal|
move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water|
move4=Growl|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=271|
pokemon=Lombre|
gender=female|
level=18|
ability=Swift Swim|
type1=Water|type2=Grass|
move1=Nature Power|move1type=Normal|
move2=Growl|move2type=Normal|
move3=Astonish|move3type=Ghost|
move4=Absorb|move4type=Grass}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=256|
pokemon=Combusken|
gender=male|
level=20|
ability=Blaze|
type1=Fire|type2=Fighting|
move1=Peck|move1type=Flying|
move2=Ember|move2type=Fire|
move3=Focus Energy|move3type=Normal|
move4=Double Kick|move4type=Fighting}}
}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}1350|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Hoenn Route 110 |
locationname=Route 110 |
pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=271|
pokemon=Lombre|
gender=female|
level=18|
ability=Swift Swim|
type1=Water|type2=Grass|
move1=Nature Power|move1type=Normal|
move2=Growl|move2type=Normal|
move3=Astonish|move3type=Ghost|
move4=Absorb|move4type=Grass}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=218|
pokemon=Slugma|
gender=male|
level=18|
ability=Flame Body|
type1=Fire|
move1=Yawn|move1type=Normal|
move2=Smog|move2type=Poison|
move3=Ember|move3type=Fire|
move4=Rock Throw|move4type=Rock}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=259|
pokemon=Marshtomp|
gender=male|
level=20|
ability=Torrent|
type1=Water|type2=Ground|
move1=Foresight|move1type=Normal|
move2=Water Gun|move2type=Water|
move3=Bide|move3type=Normal|
move4=Mud Shot|move4type=Ground}}
}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}1350|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Hoenn Route 110 |
locationname=Route 110 |
pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=278|
pokemon=Wingull|
gender=female|
level=18|
ability=Keen Eye|
type1=Water|type2=Flying|
move1=Water Gun|move1type=Water|
move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal|
move3=Wing Attack|move3type=Flying|
move4=Growl|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=218|
pokemon=Slugma|
gender=female|
level=18|
ability=Flame Body|
type1=Fire|
move1=Yawn|move1type=Normal|
move2=Smog|move2type=Poison|
move3=Ember|move3type=Fire|
move4=Rock Throw|move4type=Rock}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=253|
pokemon=Grovyle|
gender=male|
level=20|
ability=Overgrow|
type1=Grass|
move1=Pursuit|move1type=Dark|
move2=Fury Cutter|move2type=Bug|
move3=Quick Attack|move3type=Normal|
move4=Absorb|move4type=Grass}}
}}

=====Fourth battle=====
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}2400|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Hoenn Route 119 |
locationname=Route 119 |
pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=271|
pokemon=Lombre|
gender=male|
level=29|
ability=Swift Swim|
type1=Water|type2=Grass|
move1=Absorb|move1type=Grass|
move2=Nature Power|move2type=Normal|
move3=Fake Out|move3type=Normal|
move4=Fury Swipes|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=278|
pokemon=Wingull|
gender=male|
level=29|
ability=Keen Eye|
type1=Water|type2=Flying|
move1=Supersonic|move1type=Normal|
move2=Mist|move2type=Ice |
move3=Quick Attack|move3type=Normal|
move4=Wing Attack|move4type=Flying}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=256|
pokemon=Combusken|
gender=male|
level=31|
ability=Blaze|
type1=Fire|type2=Fighting|
move1=Sand-Attack|move1type=Ground|
move2=Peck |move2type=Flying|
move3=Bulk Up|move3type=Fighting|
move4=Double Kick|move4type=Fighting}}
}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}2400|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Hoenn Route 119 |
locationname=Route 119 |
pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=271|
pokemon=Lombre|
gender=male|
level=29|
ability=Swift Swim|
type1=Water|type2=Grass|
move1=Absorb|move1type=Grass|
move2=Nature Power|move2type=Normal|
move3=Fake Out|move3type=Normal|
move4=Fury Swipes|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=218|
pokemon=Slugma|
gender=male|
level=29|
ability=Flame Body|
type1=Fire|
move1=Ember|move1type=Fire|
move2=Rock Throw|move2type=Rock|
move3=Harden|move3type=Normal|
move4=Amnesia|move4type=Psychic}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=259|
pokemon=Marshtomp|
gender=male|
level=31|
ability=Torrent|
type1=Water|type2=Ground|
move1=Mud Shot|move1type=Ground|
move2=Foresight|move2type=Normal|
move3=Mud Sport|move3type=Ground|
move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}
}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}2400|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Hoenn Route 119 |
locationname=Route 119 |
pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=218|
pokemon=Slugma|
gender=male|
level=29|
ability=Flame Body|
type1=Fire|
move1=Ember|move1type=Fire|
move2=Rock Throw|move2type=Rock|
move3=Harden|move3type=Normal|
move4=Amnesia|move4type=Psychic}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=278|
pokemon=Wingull|
gender=male|
level=29|
ability=Keen Eye|
type1=Water|type2=Flying|
move1=Supersonic|move1type=Normal|
move2=Mist|move2type=Ice|
move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water|
move4=Wing Attack|move4type=Flying}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=253|
pokemon=Grovyle|
gender=male|
level=31|
ability=Overgrow|
type1=Grass|
move1=Leaf Blade|move1type=Grass|
move2=Screech|move2type=Normal|
move3=Pursuit|move3type=Dark|
move4=Fury Cutter|move4type=Bug}}
}}

=====Fifth Battle=====
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}2740|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Lilycove City |
pokemon=4|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=357|
pokemon=Tropius|
gender=female|
level=31|
ability=Chlorophyll|
type1=Grass|type2=Flying|
move1=Magical Leaf|move1type=Grass|
move2=Whirlwind|move2type=Normal|
move3=Sweet Scent|move3type=Normal|
move4=Stomp|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=272|
pokemon=Ludicolo|
gender=female|
level=32|
ability=Swift Swim|
type1=Water|type2=Grass|
move1=Nature Power|move1type=Normal|
move2=Fake Out|move2type=Normal|
move3=Fury Swipes|move3type=Normal|
move4=Water Sport|move4type=Water}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=279|
pokemon=Pelipper|
gender=female|
level=32|
ability=Keen Eye|
type1=Water|type2=Flying|
move1=Protect|move1type=Normal|
move2=Mist|move2type=Ice|
move3=Wing Attack|move3type=Flying|
move4=Supersonic|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=256|
pokemon=Combusken|
gender=male|
level=34|
ability=Blaze|
type1=Fire|type2=Fighting|
move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal|
move2=Bulk Up|move2type=Fighting|
move3=Sand-Attack|move3type=Ground|
move4=Peck|move4type=Flying}}
}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}2740|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Lilycove City |
pokemon=4|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=357|
pokemon=Tropius|
gender=male|
level=31|
ability=Chlorophyll|
type1=Grass|type2=Flying|
move1=Magical Leaf|move1type=Grass|
move2=Whirlwind|move2type=Normal|
move3=Sweet Scent|move3type=Normal|
move4=Stomp|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=272|
pokemon=Ludicolo|
gender=male|
level=32|
ability=Swift Swim|
type1=Water|type2=Grass|
move1=Nature Power|move1type=Normal|
move2=Fake Out|move2type=Normal|
move3=Fury Swipes|move3type=Normal|
move4=Water Sport|move4type=Water}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=218|
pokemon=Slugma|
gender=male|
level=32|
ability=Flame Body|
type1=Fire|
move1=Ember|move1type=Fire|
move2=Rock Throw|move2type=Rock|
move3=Harden|move3type=Normal|
move4=Amnesia|move4type=Psychic}}|
pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=259|
pokemon=Marshtomp|
gender=male|
level=34|
ability=Torrent|
type1=Water|type2=Ground|
move1=Mud Shot|move1type=Ground|
move2=Foresight|move2type=Normal|
move3=Mud Sport|move3type=Ground|
move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}
}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}2740|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Lilycove City |
pokemon=4|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=357|
pokemon=Tropius|
gender=female|
level=31|
ability=Chlorophyll|
type1=Grass|type2=Flying|
move1=Magical Leaf|move1type=Grass|
move2=Whirlwind|move2type=Normal|
move3=Sweet Scent|move3type=Normal|
move4=Stomp|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=279|
pokemon=Pelipper|
gender=female|
level=32|
ability=Keen Eye|
type1=Water|type2=Flying|
move1=Protect|move1type=Normal|
move2=Mist|move2type=Ice|
move3=Wing Attack|move3type=Flying|
move4=Supersonic|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=218|
pokemon=Slugma|
gender=female|
level=32|
ability=Flame Body|
type1=Fire|
move1=Ember|move1type=Fire|
move2=Rock Throw|move2type=Rock|
move3=Harden|move3type=Normal|
move4=Amnesia|move4type=Psychic}}|
pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=253|
pokemon=Grovyle|
gender=male|
level=34|
ability=Overgrow|
type1=Grass|
move1=Fury Cutter|move1type=Bug|
move2=Pursuit|move2type=Dark|
move3=Screech|move3type=Normal|
move4=Leaf Blade|move4type=Grass}}
}}

====Quotes in Emerald====
{{incomplete|section}}
=====Littleroot Town (1st Visit)=====
''"! Hey! You... Who are you? Oh, you're [[Player character|<player>]], aren't you? Moved in next door, right? I didn't know you're a girl. Dad, <sc>[[Professor Birch|Prof. Birch]]</sc>, said our new next-door neighbor is a <sc>[[Gym Leader|Gym Leader]]</sc>'s kid, so I assumed you'd be a guy. My name's <sc>Brendan</sc>. So, hi, neighbor! Huh? Hey, <player>, don't you have a <sc>Pokémon</sc>? Do you want me to go catch you one? Aw, darn, I forgot... I'm supposed to go help my dad catch some wild <sc>Pokémon</sc>. Some other time, okay?"''

=====Match Call=====
'''Strategy''' -
Battle with knowledge!

'''Trainer's Pokémon''' -
I will use various Pokémon.

'''Self-Introduction''' -
I'll be a better Pokémon prof than my father is!

==Artwork==
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Ruby Sapphire Brendan.png|100px]]
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Brendan Ribbon.png|200px]]
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Rayquaza Encounter.png|130px]]
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Battle Tower art.png|200px]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Official artwork from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby and Sapphire}}
| Giving a {{color2|000000|Ribbon}} to {{color2|000000|Torchic}}.
| Encountering {{color2|000000|Rayquaza}}.
| In the {{color2|000000|Battle Tower}}.
|}

===Sprites===
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:RS Brendan.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:RS Brendan Back.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:E Brendan.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:E Brendan Back.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Colo Brendan.png|60px]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:XD Brendan RS.png|80px]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:XD Brendan Em.png|80px]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Brendan's sprite from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby and Sapphire}}
| Brendan's back sprite from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby and Sapphire}}
| Brendan's sprite from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
| Brendan's back sprite from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
| Image of Brendan from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Colosseum|Colosseum}}
| A headshot of Brendan from {{color2|000000|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|Pokémon XD}} (RS variant)
| A headshot of Brendan from {{color2|000000|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|Pokémon XD}} (E variant)
|}
{{-}}

==Counterparts==
===In the anime===
[[Image:Brendan_Swampert.png|thumb|220px|Brendan's anime appearance]]
Brendan's only anime appearances are small cameos in the movies, appearing in the openings of ''[[M06|Jirachi: Wish Maker]]'', ''[[M09|Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]]'' and ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''. Brendan seems to be a competitive battler, as his cameos suggest he spends time in Battle Towers. In all of his appearances, he has appeared with his Ruby and Sapphire outfit.

Like in the games, he has the [[starter Pokémon]] that weakens {{an|May}}'s. It is unknown if his relatives are the same as that of the games, where, as May is [[Norman]]'s daughter (as the player is), Brendan would be [[Professor Birch]]'s son.

====Pokémon====
The following are Brendan's known Pokémon in the anime:

{{TrainerPoké
|main=no
|trainer=Brendan
|pkmn=Swampert
|type1=Water
|type2=Ground
|img=Brendan_Swampert.png
|epnum=M09
|epname=Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea
|vajp=
|vaen=
|desc={{p|Swampert}} is most likely Brendan's starter Pokémon. Not much is known about it, however, as it has only been seen briefly at the beginning of [[M09|the ninth movie]], where it was seen confronting {{mo|Rebecca}}'s {{p|Tyranitar}} in the [[Battle Tower]].

Swampert's only known move is {{m|Ice Beam}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|main=no
|trainer=Brendan
|pkmn=Aggron
|type1=Steel
|type2=Rock
|img=Brendan Aggron Shiftry.png
|epnum=M06
|epname=Jirachi: Wish Maker
|vajp=
|vaen=
|desc=Brendan's {{p|Aggron}} was only briefly seen in a [[double battle]] at the beginning of [[M06|the sixth movie]] alongside Shiftry, against a {{p|Solrock}} and {{p|Manectric}}. Aggron was freezing the opponent's Solrock while Shiftry was being hit by the Manectric's {{m|Spark}}. Notably, Aggron is kept within a {{DL|Poké Ball|Luxury Ball}}, a type of [[Poké Ball]] rarely seen in the anime.

Aggron's only known move is {{m|Ice Beam}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Brendan
|pkmn=Shiftry
|type1=Grass
|type2=Dark
|img=Brendan Shiftry.png
|epnum=M06
|epname=Jirachi: Wish Maker
|desc=Brendan's {{p|Shiftry}} was only briefly seen in a [[double battle]] at the beginning of [[M06|the sixth movie]] alongside Aggron, against a {{p|Solrock}} and {{p|Manectric}}. Aggron was freezing the opponent's Solrock while Shiftry was being hit by the Manectric's {{m|Spark}}. Notably, Shiftry is kept within a {{DL|Poké Ball|Repeat Ball}}, a type of [[Poké Ball]] rarely seen in the anime.

Shiftry's only known move is {{m|Bullet Seed}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|main=no
|trainer=Brendan
|pkmn=Rhyperior
|type1=Ground
|type2=Rock
|img=Brendan_Rhyperior.png
|epnum=M11
|epname=Giratina and the Sky Warrior
|vajp=
|vaen=
|desc=Brendan's {{p|Rhyperior}} has only made a brief appearance at the beginning of [[M11|the eleventh movie]], where it was seen battling against {{ga|Lucas}}'s {{p|Magmortar}}.

Rhyperior's only known move is {{m|Hammer Arm}}.}}

===In the manga===
There are three different manga counterparts to Brendan: {{adv|Ruby}} from the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga, {{OBP|Ruby|Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire}} from the [[Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire]] manga, and [[Rald]] from the [[Pokémon Battle Frontier]] manga.

===In the TFG===
{{TFG ID|Next Quest|Brendan|41}}, based on a blue recolor of this character's usual clothes, appears as a common Trainer figure in {{TFG|Next Quest}}, the launch set of the [[Pokémon Trading Figure Game]]. There is also an unreleased figurine based on him from the cancelled {{TFG|Groundbreakers}} expansion, named {{TFG ID|Groundbreakers|Landon|41}} (one of the default names for him in Pokémon Ruby and Emerald), who wears the same outfit as Brendan does in Ruby and Sapphire.

==Trivia==
*In [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]], {{p|Pikachu}} wears Brendan's Emerald headband as an alternate costume. Also, the [[Red (game)#In the Super Smash Bros. series|Pokémon Trainer]] has an alternate costume with a similar color scheme as Brendan's Emerald outfit.
*He and {{ga|May}} are the only set of player characters who have a chance to speak with both a mother and a father in the games.

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! Language !! Name !! Origin
|- style="background: #FFF"
|Japanese
| ユウキ ''Yūki''
| From 勇気 ''yūki'', bravery.
|- style="background: #FFF"
|English
| Brendan
| Could be derived from "brave."
|- style="background: #FFF"
|French
| Brice
| Similar to the English name.
|- style="background: #FFF"
|German
| Brix
| Similar to the English name.
|- style="background: #FFF"
|Italian
| Brendon
| Similar to the English name.
|- style="background: #FFF"
|Spanish
| Bruno
| Similar to the English name.

|- style="background: #FFF"
|Chinese (Taiwan)
| 祐樹 ''Yòushù''
| From 祐樹 ''yūki''.
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[[Category:Ruby and Sapphire characters]]
[[Category:Emerald characters]]
[[Category:Male characters]]

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== (Trainer class) ==

So should we move ''Team Rocket Grunt'' to ''Team Rocket Grunt '''(Trainer class)''''' along with ''Team Plasma Grunt''? Also should we move ''Magma/Aqua Grunt (Trainer class)'' to '''''Team''' Magma/Aqua Grunt (Trainer class)''? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Landfish7}} ([[User talk:Landfish7|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Landfish7|contribs]]) ''
:Unless there's some reason they weren't moved the first time... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:39, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

== Wi-fi ==

Hey Trom (I'm dropping my formal tone), where do you live in NZ, exactly? If you want, I might be able to find a free wi-fi hotspot for you. Just trying to be helpful! ;} - [[User:Twisted Ivy|Twisted Ivy]] 14:50, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== Help ==

Sorry I keep disturbing you :( You know my entries for the Christmas Improvement Drive? You know, the [[Pokémon Musical]] and [[Team Charm]]? Well, it still says there are missing sections in it. Would you give me some tips for filling those in with? I mean, I know the CID is over, but I'd still like to improve them. [[User:Twisted Ivy|Twisted Ivy]] 15:47, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
:It says there are missing sections because they need to be manually removed. I'm not familiar with either the Musicals or any side games so I don't know exactly what's required. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:39, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

==Nintendo 3DS==
Hi, I'm not sure where to type but its regarding the "Nintendo branding the 3DS as dangerous" article. The Nintendo 3DS has been stated several times not to be part of the Nintendo DS line, it's a brand new handheld console borrowing the dual screen touch from its predecessor, which is all. Inside its a whole new machine, graphics - the lot basically. Just thought I'd let you know that :) --[[User:Craigybabyxo|Craigybabyxo]] 08:55, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

== Re:IAPL ==

Hello, I'm one of the guys in charge of the IAPL wiki (known as Anonymousse); and I have to say; I'm terribly sorry over the copyright deal. To be honest, I dislike using other's work and usually try to make my own. And I know I might sound like trying to put the shame on another; but I feel the need to say this. We used to have another webhost in 000webhost.com, and we had a wiki set up in there as well; [http://wiki.iapl.co.cc/index.php?title=Template:Party&oldid=881 This] edit over here was made by a user named Ketsuban (we are still unsure about whether he used to be part of this community or not). I'm not sure if you've heard of him. Anyways, when he brought up the Party template, I started asking him about bringing that template in, but he said he asked and he got a 'yes'. So I went on and edited it. Regarding the RegionInfobox template, it's heavily based upon Bulbapedia's; but I can say it's a work entirely made by me. With that said, I must say that the Party template is only a placeholder, since I still was uneasy about using it; once I can learn about wiki markup better, I'll replace it with my own work (lots of people can prove that). But in the meantime, we'll put attribution to your work, how do you want it? Tell me and we'll change what's needed. Once again, I'm sorry over that. Mind if I ask something? How did you come across to the Project site? I look forward to your response. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]] [[User_talk:Masatoshi|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Masatoshi|contribs]] 03:34, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

tl;dr by bigplrbear (2nd admin): Sorry about using your stuff; we were under the impression (thanks to a user named Ketsuban, whom we were under the impression that he came from Bulbapedia) that we could use the templates freely. We'll start replacing your templates with our own, but in the meantime, would it be okay if we gave credit to those who made it? If so, how would you like the credit to be displayed? Also, how'd you find out about our project, if you don't mind us asking?

If you have any further concerns and you want to reach us directly, you're more than welcome to get on the IRC at [irc://irc.rizon.net#iapl irc.rizon.net #iapl] and send Anonymousse or I a PM. :)
[[User:Bigplrbear|Bigplrbear]] 03:47, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

:Thanks, guys. Just provide some documentation saying that the templates are taken from Bulbapedia and will be replaced as soon as possible. I think the Ketsuban user you refer to may be [[User:Missingno000]]; he recently filed a request to change his username here to Ketsuban. A friend and colleague of mine saw you guys on /vp/ and noticed you'd copied a few templates; as I'm the go-to copyrights guy around here, she asked me to say something to you. Again, thanks for your cooperation. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:45, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
::There's absolutely no way we can know about that. All I can say is that the guy used proper grammar and was a power-hungry guy; he was in charge of one of the Leagues; until he was removed because of his vandalic actions and some stuff in the game script. And regarding the templates, I know that the Party template will have that; as well as with the color2 one; but there's a thing I'm not sure about. The roundy template, since it uses CSS attributes that are global; should we rename the template or what? And what about the Hex colours? I'm not sure about that, since they are present in the games. And, are you okay with the style we're using? Since Bulbapedia's work is actually something inspiring to work on, and plus, I kinda hate square corners. I think I know who told you about the project :P. Anyways, thank you for being comprehensive; I'd hate being hated by Bulbagarden/pedia. I'll get to work on a Documentation, can I use Bulbapedia's logo for that, by the way? [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]] [[User_talk:Masatoshi|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Masatoshi|contribs]] 07:15, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:::We could confirm by checking IP addresses, I guess, but it isn't a big deal and shouldn't be handled in public. The roundy template, or versions thereof, is being used on many wikis. Although I think our incarnation was coded up by Bulbagarden staff, we can't really hold claim to rounded corners (despite what TTE may think). The hex colors were taken out of the game by Bulbapedia users, but I don't think we can justifiably hold claim to them either. I'll leave the rest to your judgment: if you've taken it directly from BP, then add attribution. If it's original work, it's original work. You are welcome to use Bulbapedia's logo in a link-back documentation message. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:31, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Possibly; gotta check Ketsuban's IP in the forum. The documentation has been made into a template (BulbaDoc), and it's put into the Party template and the Pokémon/5 (transcluded to only Pokémon); not sure if that's okay. And, as soon as I get to figure out how to use some parser functions correctly, I'll start to make the Party template for us. ''*sigh*'' I'm still sorry over this stuff. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]] [[User_talk:Masatoshi|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Masatoshi|contribs]] 10:32, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::You're doing well. Thanks again, and good luck with your project. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:53, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:''indentation reset'' Alright, then. Good to know. I should be thanking you for this, actually. And thanks, we're going to need as much luck as we can. ''*looks worried at Nintendo*'' [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]] [[User_talk:Masatoshi|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Masatoshi|contribs]] 11:03, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for hearing us out. Like anonymousse said, we'll get on documenting anything used from Bulbapedia, and we'll give credit where credit's due. Anon's just a bit scared of copyright stuff (I, for one am not, since (thankfully) Nintendo has a well documented history for not caring, unless you make money and/or use their ROMs/Code), so this whole deal freaked him out a bit. As I said before, if you have any more concerns and you wish to contact us directly, feel free to PM us in the IRC or Forums. [[User:Bigplrbear|Bigplrbear]] 03:15, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

== Blocking second account ==

Hey. I had a problem logging in with my first account ([[user:Weedefinition]]), which you tried to help me with back in October. Well I kept trying to get a new password since but It's obviously not gonna happen. So now would be a good time to block the Weedefinition account, since I can't use it anyway and I can't have two accounts. Thanks for all your help and apologies for all the hassle. [[User:WellyDawn|WellyDawn]] 15:10, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
:Not a problem at all. Have a nice day. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:30, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

== trooooooooooooooom ==

I don't know what your policy is on usernames but [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:RivalDICKS this] dude has DICKS in his username. I saw it AFTER creating his talk page so...sorry 'bout that ;_; --[[User:.insomniac.|«ιɴsσ]]м[[User_talk:.insomniac.|ɴιαc»]] 15:53, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
:[[Bulbapedia:Username_policy|Here's the Bulbapedia Username Policy]] for future's reference, Insomniac. ^^ And indeed you're not allowed to have obscenities in your username. But an admin should take care of it soon enough. Thanks for your help [[Typhlosion|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon|★]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]] 15:55, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
::OK awesome. Thanks for the link, I'll make sure to read it :). --[[User:.insomniac.|«ιɴsσ]]м[[User_talk:.insomniac.|ɴιαc»]] 15:57, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
:::[[User:Jello|Jello]] took care of it. :) [[Typhlosion|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon|★]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]] 17:22, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

== User deletion request. ==

Hello. I'm leaving this comment on your talkpage because you were the last person to leave a comment on mine. If you are not responsible for what I am about to talk about, please ignore this and send my note to the correct person.

After two hilarious discussions about me doing to many edits in my namespace (BTW, when I want to talk with a robot, I visit Cleverbot), I realized that I am unable to edit my own pages. I truly appreciate your imagination and creativity in modifying terms like "democracy" and "my own possession". Hey, at last we're on wiki, where anyone can change anything! (insert laugh) Back to the point. You see, after that I found out that I cannot simply remove my account and I have to beg someone to do it. So here I am. Please, please, destroy my user account and all pages that has violated this precious, given by Arceus himslef "3 times per day" law. Destroy all my edits that were - what I thought - a mere and humble addition to the Bulbapedia, but - in fact - were "horrible, horrible crimes". I understand what have I done and decided to leave this place and never contribute to any online community ever (just in case they have developed as stupid laws as the ones here). I hope my dose of irony wasn't too big for your servers. And if it was - I will laugh even more. Yes. Sincerely, [[User:Piotr mil|Piotr mil]] 15:37, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
:Don't be so pretentious. I'm not deleting your pages. That's not how I roll.
:Bulbapedia has rules for a reason. We discourage over-editing of userspace pages because we are, first and foremost, an encyclopedia. Your edits looked like they might have eventually benefited the wiki; however, you still have to stick to the rules. If you're making helpful userspace edits, we get more lenient with the limits, but you aren't immune. If you make a few mainspace edits for every userspace edit, you'll be sweet. If you choose to disregard this message and leave the wiki, that's fine too. Just don't be an ass about everything. I learned the hard way when I joined Bulbapedia - if you act like a dick, you'll get treated like one. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:51, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

== R/S/E Remakes ==

Is it possible for someone to make a tab saying "This user supports R/S/E remakes"?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 02:50, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
: If you play around with some of the templates you can modify one to make it say that. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 03:14, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
::Feel free to make one in your userspace by editing an existing template. The old GSDS template might be around - you could modify that if you can find it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:51, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

== Help me plz ==

Can you unlock my page on bulbanews? I will copy it and remove it all.It seem waste memory in bulbanews.[[User:Meearaimeng|Meearaimeng]] 03:12, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:I have replied there as I saw that message first. Let me know when you have copied your content. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:51, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

== Hey foo ==

When you're not being hot and dangerous, can you be like one of us and get on AIM please. Like ASAP, but not like an urgent ASAP or anything. Thanks --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:50, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:You're such a hipster. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:59, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
::You're such a plastic bag. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 07:06, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Can I pretend that airplanes in the night sky are like shooting stars? I could really use a Trom right now, Trom right now, Trom right now. Or whenever you're ki-kinda not busay and out in the club sippin' that bub. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 06:47, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Hello? Hello? Baby, you called? I can't hear a thing. I have got no internet in my house, you see, you see. Wha, wha, what did you say, huh, you're breaking up on me. Send me an email - I'm kinda busy. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:38, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::I wake up every evening, with a big smile on my face and it never feels out of place, and you're still probably working, at a 9 to 5 pace, I wonder how bad that tastes, when you see my email/PM, I hope it gives you hell, hope it gives you hell. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 16:58, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::I was totally going to use a song, but it's pretty graphic and has totally awesome, yet very PG-13 lyrics, so I decided against scaring the youth. When you get on AIM sometime in the future, all natural like and without rush, I got a {{tt|spoiler|lolol I bet you thought there was something important in here. Wrong. But seriously, I still need you later.}} for you. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 00:29, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::Tromieeee, when you get a chance in the near future, can you get on AIM soon, pretty please~, also I couldn't think of a good song to spam you with today /cries forever --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:21, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

== new project? ==
Hey, Trom, I had an idea for a project - Project Technology. Some ideas of Pokémon are really high-tech, so I think it deserves a project to itself. I was inpired by [[Jamero]] - tell me if you think it's good! [[User:Twisted Ivy|Twisted Ivy]] 20:26, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
:I'm not entirely sure how much scope this project would have... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:38, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

== Delete ==

Can u delete this for me?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 07:09, 30 January 2011 (UTC) [[File:So out of your league.jpg|210px|thumb|left|I can see how this will play out]]

== E-mail ==

Yeah, sorry about that. I kept forgetting to switch it on. It should be up now. --[[User:RiverAura|River]][[User_Talk:RiverAura|Aura]] 02:40, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

==Spammer==

hey can you please have a chat with {{u|Pokemonmaster2954}}? She's been inserting advertising and gibberish into pages. Thanks! [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 21:59, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

== Requesting a username change ==

Basically I was really absent-mindedly creating my account the other day after a year or so of lurking, and I accidentally mixed up my intended entries for the Username and Real name fields. I'm rambling, I suppose, so long story short, I was wondering if I could get my username changed to Zond. I would really appreciate it.[[User:GarthHalvorsen|GarthHalvorsen]] 00:55, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
:Hi Garth/Zond. Unfortunately, the tool we use to rename users is currently broken - we're looking into a fix. As you have only made a few edits thus far, you may wish to create a new account with the new username, provided it isn't taken. I will then close off (block) your misnamed account. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:54, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
::Alright, I'll do that. Thanks.[[User:GarthHalvorsen|GarthHalvorsen]] 06:12, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
:::Made the new account, thought I'd let you know.[[User:Zond|Zond]] 06:15, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
::::Thank you. Enjoy your time here. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:58, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

== Minor Copyright Issue ==

[[Talk:AG117#Copying and copyright|Here]]. --[[User:Rigas|Rigas]] 12:10, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

: Thanks. --[[User:Rigas|Rigas]] 18:25, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

== Two Things ==

Hey Trom! First question I have for you is do we have a page detailing out the commonalities in each Region, such as that every game has the Fire, Grass, and Water Starters, a common bird Pokemon, and such? I think it would just be an interesting thing to compare up as we are getting more and more commonalities. While I'm at it I was wondering if you would [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:RexRacer#B.26W_Mall_Tour|take a look at this] when you have a moment, as it looks like Rex is busy. Thanks!! —'''[[User:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User talk:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 23:00, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
:No, we currently do not have a page like that. I will reply about the mall tour on Rex's page, so as to keep the thread in one place. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:25, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
::There is a TLDR section about your commonalities article on Rex's talk page. BTW. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:58, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:::Thanks for the heads up on that. I saw, and he does indeed disapprove. I think that I am going to try Userspacing it first and if we find any use for it we can Mainspace it (which I know is unlikely but we will have the resource if needed). I will also PM you on the forums in the next day or two about the details of that Tour. Thanks again Trom! —'''[[User:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User talk:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 08:40, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

== Portalizing ==

I'm fine with shrinking the list of portals we have, but for my happiness, can we keep the few we're working on? If we do shrink it to your list, can you update the Portal Portal template accordingly? -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 05:30, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

== Much Appreciated ==

Thank you for ending that conversation, trom. It sure took up a lot of my time. At least my writing skills got a good workout. Till next time, get Pokémon★ --[[User:ShalashaskaADV|Shalashaska]][[User talk:ShalashaskaADV|ADV]] 06:34, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

== Need something checked ==
Even though Ankle Sweep's English Name was revealed as Low Sweep, the Japanese name was posted as Low Kick. Could you look into this confusing mystery? -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 22:48, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
:From what I recall, the Japanese name of this move can be translated as both Low Kick and Ankle Sweep. Bulbapedia chose the second translation as we already have one English move with the name Low Kick. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:51, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
::Thanks, I only asked because it looked confusing when I saw that page and wanted to help deal with the mystery so it would be less confusing, but it might make a good trivia piece just to make it more understandable. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 22:53, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

== Jello said to ask you ==
About a Bulbanews colum I want to write, it will be an oppinionative one, how do I get a space for my {{tt|colum|well I haven't wrote it yet}}? [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 20:25, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
:Hi. Please send a PM through the forums to both me and RexRacer outlining what you want to write about - not just the general subject but also ideas for specific columns - and your planned update schedule. We would ideally want a sample of your writing (three or four columns) to see if you meet Bulbanews quality standards, but as you haven't written anything yet we'll just take the outline for now. Thanks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:23, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

== Query ==
As you seem to be in the know, just wondering what the rules were about deleting talk pages of articles? I guess that they would be to delete them as much as possible to save space? At least that is what I assume from what I am seeing? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 08:37, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
:Depends what's on them. Redirects, yes; stupid questions, yes. The file talk page you edited earlier? That should go as Bulbapedia administrators are instructed not to let anything exist in the file talk namespace. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:45, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
::How about information requested to be changed on a locked page? Not a file page. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 08:47, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
:::There appears to have been some error, human or otherwise. I will investigate when I return from my break. (See user page.) —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:31, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
::::Should I link you? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 11:49, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

== Proposed new template for favorite music genres ==

Hello, I would like to propose an improved version of the favorite music genre template to include genre-determined colors. I have put my proposal here:
[[User:Andros 1337/Proposed new favorite music template]] [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 01:34, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
:Forwarded to someone else in my absence. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:32, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

== Minor task for you ==

Regarding the [[Bulbapedia:FAQ|FAQs]], there is a spelling error in the ''Is Gaming allowed in the Userspace'' Section. Bulbapedia seem to be missing an ''i''. I chose to bring you this cause you're the most recent admin thing to contribute. According to the recent changes.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Reshiram (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Zekrom (Pokémon)|ire]] 09:29, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
:Resolved. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:32, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
::Another--What Are Link Templates needs a question mark, e. g., What Are Link Templates? Thank you! [[User:Focus58|Focus]][[User talk:Focus58|58]] 11:18, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

== Question about my name ==

I'm quite new and I'm not sure if I may ask it here but..
After reading the [[Bulbapedia:Username_policy|username policy]], do you think [[User_talk:Shadess|my name]] is [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Black_Glasses#BlackGlasses Misleading?] some people refer the black glasses as Shades.
If so, how can I change my name?
[[User:Shadess|Shadess]] 10:11, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
:Hi Shadess; welcome to Bulbapedia. You're most welcome to ask any questions you have here :) Rest assured, your username is just fine. That policy is in place to prevent, say, someone signing up with the username "User:The Dark Lord Trombonator" (note the difference in capitalisation) or "User:Satoshi Tajiri" (the name of a real-life person). You have nothing to worry about. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:14, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

== Saving on server space... ==

Hello, dark lord trombonator. I'm a pretty new user here, and as always I've been concerned about the stress on Bulbapedia's server space. May I know if clearing userspace pages (such as my own talk page) periodically will relieve server stress, and if it will help a lot? Thanks! Cheers, [[User:Haxorus|Haxorus]] 13:21, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
:You're free to clear your userpage, but user talk pages fall under the same rules as any other talk page: Deleting comments is prohibited except under extenuating circumstances (such as vandalism). So no clearing your talk page. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 14:53, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
::Wait, so deleting comments on talk pages that don't break the rules is against the rules? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 15:50, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
:::You got it. We like to keep those there as a record of what discussions have contributed to the current state of the article/user. If talk pages get too long, we archive them in a subpage. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 16:22, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
::::HOWEVER, spam and useless comments ARE allowed to be removed without notice. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 16:40, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
:::::Hmm, Jel I'm not so sure, I am looking at the rule here and spam can be removed yes, but it isn't saying the same for what you deem 'useless'
:::::Could you link me to where you see otherwise? I must be looking at the wrong place. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 17:16, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
::::::[[Bulbapedia:Talk page policy#How should a talk page not be used?|There you go. Spam and other useless comments]]. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 17:25, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
:::::::Ah was looking at the wrong part of the page apparently, thanks for the direct link. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 17:32, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
::::::::That's great but I have a small request for you: Please stop trying to provoke me, and please stop pretending to be generally interested in the rules just to find some loophole you can exploit to insult me. Your new signature isn't helping the problem either. Have a nice day. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 17:47, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::Hm... definitely not trying to "provoke" you, especially since the reason why I asked had nothing to do with you, you only came into the event later on... sorry if I hurt your ego by saying that but you weren't the one who deleted the talk page entry so please lay off the subject as it is over and done with. As for my new signature it is just a friendly warning because that week long ban really was an annoyance as my email inbox filled up with edit updates and was quite bothersome. So yea, please stop bothering me. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 19:58, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::I was only clarifying a misunderstanding you seem to not be able to let go, because it was clear what you were trying to imply. I requested in my edit summary that you not reply to this comment either, but I knew you weren't going to listen. But yeah, if you weren't so biased in your hatred against staff, you wouldn't have left that comment after mines, and of course your signature wouldn't say what it says right now (which is anything BUT friendly). Like it or not, it is a personal attack against any one that is staff. I will stop "bothering" you though, and let Trom take care of this. Again, have a nice day. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 20:18, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::::First of all, I asked you to please stop, this has nothing to do with you and only you are making it have something to do with you, you are cluttering up someone's talk page with your claims that my inquiry had anything to do with you. My apologies again to your ego. Second of all, if paraphrasing a member of staff is a "personal attack" then I apologize, but it is true, and if you have a problem with my signature please take it up on ''my'' page and not the page of someone else to clutter up their page. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 20:31, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
All of you, get a life. If you can't handle the talkspace, go [[:Category:Stubs|fix up a stub]]. Jel and fel, try and avoid each other for a bit. And fel, get rid of that signature. I'm all for self-expression, but it's rude and counterproductive. Signatures ought not to be defamatory to other members, staff included. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:13, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
:I'm sorry but I did nothing, I was only asking a question and Jel assumed it was about her? I begged her repeatedly to please stop posting and I somehow get yelled at?
:My signature is entirely truthful, saying it is defamatory implies it is untrue? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 03:09, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
::For real, follow Trom's advice and don't interact with Jello. Including the above comment. Sometimes, you just have to let things go whether you like it or not. And in this case Trom is giving you a pretty long leash by giving you a warning. Arguing over the truthfulness (or not-truthfulness) of your sig is rehashing the issue Trom told you (and Jel) to drop. So, drop it. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 03:36, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
:::Jel attacked me, then later she commented on my signature so my signature has nothing to do with that. As for whether or not someone stated what my signature says was stated is true, and then as for people getting banned for just trying to help out that is also true based on previous happenings. So I don't see the problem here? Especially since the only person who did not drop the issue was Jel even though I '''begged''' her to drop it multiple times and I somehow am the only one getting yelled at? [[User:Felinoel|Admins say '''F'''hey don't do th'''E'''ir job but don't try to he'''L'''p or you will get banned.]] 03:59, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
::::Wait I just realized... I have admin plural, is that the issue? I only did that to keep the signature within the rules of character limit, that is also why I put fel in there in green, kinda confusing but it follows the rules I guess. If the plural 'admin' is the issue I am sure I can find a way to reword it? [[User:Felinoel|Admins say '''F'''hey don't do th'''E'''ir job but don't try to he'''L'''p or you will get banned.]] 04:02, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

== Userspace issue ==

Greetings, in 2009 I created my userspace and I was able to edit it normally, but in 2010 I decided to remove info from it but I was unable to, I see "view code" instead of "edit this page"... I did read the help desk several times and checked settings from 2010 until now, no success, I don't see anything about protection or block.. As I can't find the reason, I'm finally contacting a staff member as the help desk says recommends. Please tell me if I'm mistaken. I need to edit my userspace..if it's not possible anymore, you can remove the page then. Waiting for a quick reply. --[[User:Caique|Caique]] 00:39, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
:The time you lost the ability to edit your userspace was the time that settings were changed to remind users that userspace editing is a privelidge, not a right. As a result, you now need to make a number of edits to the mainspace (i.e. actual articles) before you can edit your userpage again. Even once you can edit it again, remember that [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&tagfilter=&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Caique&namespace=0&tagfilter=&year=&month=-1 this list] should always be significantly longer than [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&tagfilter=&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Caique&namespace=2&tagfilter=&year=&month=-1 this list]. If it becomes the other way around, or you make too many userspace edits in a short time, you may find you lose the ability again. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:56, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
::Is that so, arigathanks! I didn't suspect that at all. Now I gotta find articles I can give a hand with... --[[User:Caique|Caique]] 03:07, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

== ゥ ( Z4 back to Z4? ==

You wrote in the history "Sorry, it's at this name for technical reasons" and those are? If you're reffering to the ゥ, its in the name of multiple glitch pokemon and one even has that as its whole name ([[ゥ]]) {{unsigned|rsrdaman}}
:Hrm. I'm now questioning whether we should move it back, or move the other one. I'll talk to MAGNEDETH and SnorlaxMonster about this. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:46, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

== Hey Trom ==

I see what you did there. |D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:25, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
:Trompoints please. Thanks. <3 --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 16:18, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

== Typo redirects ==

I get the impression from your user page you might be a good person to ask about this, I was wondering about creating redirects for name-mispellings and started a section at [[Bulbapedia_talk:Policy]]. [[User:Thelonesoldier|Thelonesoldier]] 09:38, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
:Someone read my userpage? Awesome! I'm practically famous now. I'll go check out your discussion, thanks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:22, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
::I actually burst out laughing at that. And thanks. [[User:Thelonesoldier|Thelonesoldier]] 11:52, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

==PokéFanon wiki Creative Commons==
Hi, this is [http://pokemonfanon.wikia.com/wiki/User:Universalguardian1003 Universalguardian1003], 1/3 of the bureaucrat team there and head of templates. What are your concerns? I'm sorry for sounding so commanding, I'm just a little more official when my wiki is involved. -[[User:DialgaMaster105| I'm a Girl. People Don't get that.... ]][[User talk:DialgaMaster105| Speak To The Master...DialgaMaster! ]] 22:04, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
:I outlined my concerns on the other user's talk page. Bulbapedia templates cannot be used on commercial websites like Wikia due to the different licenses. You've got a whole category full of stuff you nabbed from here (and more stuff that isn't in the category) and it all needs to be changed so it's ''your'' original content, not ours. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:25, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Hm. Me and ATTH will try. He made most of the templates that look like yours, but I thought he disclaimed and changed them. I'll delete any templates not made by him that don't have a disclaim, since those are all unofficial. -[[User:DialgaMaster105| I'm a Girl. People Don't get that.... ]][[User talk:DialgaMaster105| Speak To The Master...DialgaMaster! ]] 21:45, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

== Userspace / Talk Page ==

I am aware that you currently can only edit userspaces once a day, which I have already done today for the first time. I notice, though, that your talk page is also customized. Do edits to both stack or are they counted separate from each other's edits? [[User:EvilKirikizan|EvilKirikizan]] 21:10, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
:User talk personalization edits are loosely included in the userspace limit. It's not written down as a formal "no" but the general aim of the policy is to discourage non-productive edits so it would be best if you took user talk personalization as an extension of the usual userspace. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:35, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
::Got it. And, also, i am guessing that extensive customization (like usertags) aren't appreciated there? Thanks from [[User:EvilKirikizan|EvilKirikizan]] 01:25, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
:::Usertags don't work in the talkspace. And attempting to use your talk page to get around the userspace restrictions is not allowed and may result in loss of userspace privileges. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:55, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

== Userpage question ==
Yes, i know a bunch of my questions are on userpages and yes i know this is my second time in arow asking you something. Anyway, i had a funny idea for a section for my userpage - where i take current events from Bulbanews and revamp them in a sort of comedic parody. Since Bulbanews is officialy part of this site, i decided that I'd ask an admin for permission. Please reply. [[User:EvilKirikizan|EvilKirikizan]] 21:20, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
:That's fine. Just keep withing the userspace limit of one edit per day. You may also find this better suited to the blog system on the Bulbagarden forums. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:32, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
::hm. I'm most likely not going to start a blog soon, but i'll do it on my userpage. Thnx from an excited [[User:EvilKirikizan|EvilKirikizan]] 23:05, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
::: I just looked at bulbanews. Things like the passing away of Ms. Kawakami will NOT be made fun of. [[User:EvilKirikizan|EvilKirikizan]] 23:08, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

== Sounds ==

You're one of the more approachable admins, for me at least, so could you answer this for me: Would it be possible for the wiki to adapt adding sound files for music samples and such. For example, in the promotions article, we could provide the sample provided by Global Link for that recent Japanese Musical show. Since YouTube videos have now been allowed, unlike before (and sound files were previously allowed), I thought this might be possible too :D [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 09:52, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
:Sound files have been tricky in the past. I don't ever remember having working sound files on wiki pages that weren't links to external sites; we tried to get 493 cries once and the server exploded. We're trying something else to get the cries back on the species pages, so I'll bring this up with the others and see if there's a consensus for incorporating non-cry sounds and how we could do it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:05, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
::I've seen a few fansites with cries, like Marriland and UPC, that hold all 649 of 'em. If anyone at all is in any kind of affilation with one, we could see how they did it.
::Yes, fansite, i know. This is just a possibility, and possibilities are possible to be proven wrong by other possible possibilities. So, it's possible. [[User:EvilKirikizan|EvilKirikizan]] 23:38, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
:::We are looking to work with our German colleagues at [[de:Hauptseite|Pokéwiki]] to see how they did it. It's possible that the person who set it up last time just missed something. But of course, we'll let you know how this goes when it goes anywhere :D —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:14, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
::::Makes sense. I'd most likely have suggested that, if I ever bothered to try to read German. :) I do believe that it should work; Bulbapedia is just as reliable in Germany. Assuming you can speak their language. [[User:EvilKirikizan|EvilKirikizan]] 23:37, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

== uploading media ==

Trom, I want to upload a Misdreavus Crystal sprite I found that looks better than the one on the page. I can't upload anything right now, though (currently restricted to admins and such). What can I do? Also, will uploading media be restored to regular members eventually?--[[User:Jdthebud|Jdthebud]] 08:54, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
:Uploading appears to be open again. Sorry for the inconvenience. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:22, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

== Darknesslover5000/Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire remake speculation ==

My "Darknesslover5000/Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire remake speculation", is it blocked?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 14:54, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
:It's been protected because you broke the one edit per day userspace limit on it. You've also edited that page seven times since your last mainspace edit which was back in February. The protection will expire in one month, but you need to make some mainspace edits before you edit it again. Further information about the userspace restrictions can be found in the {{bp|Userspace policy}}. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:34, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
::I see - .- [[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 23:44, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

== Again with the userspaces ==

I was going to ask [[User: Werdnae|Werdnae]] at first, but i decided that it would be funny if i bothered you about userspaces again. Some people have pages that go along with the userpage, like Deth's [[User:MAGNEDETH/Sprite|ugly sprite page]] (the sprites are ugly, not the page). So, some questions.
* Do edits to these stack up with your main userspace edits?
* What is the maximum number of these one is allowed?
* May i make one?
* Should i ask a different person about userspaces next time?

Thanks!

''P.S. Yes, this is the last userspace related question i will ask you until the 19th of September at my earliest.'' [[User:EvilKirikizan|EvilKirikizan]] 01:17, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
:Feel free to ask me what you like; if I don't reply straight away I'm sure someone equally knowledgeable will.
:* You may make one userspace edit to the entirety of your userspace (including subpages) per day, provided you make a balanced amount of mainspace edits too.
:* There is no limit to how many userspace subpages you have, but keep it practical.
:* You may make whatever you want provided you keep within the limits.
:* Nah. But some of your questions may be able to be answered by reading the {{bp|userspace policy}}. Check that every time before you ask a question; it might save you some time.
:Always glad to help, —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:36, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

== Plagiarism ==

I don't know if you got my message on the Pokemon Wiki, are there any other articles that have your appearance descriptions? [[User:Crimsonnavy|Crimsonnavy]] 01:57, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
:Another editor brought these pages to my concern: Tepig, Oshawott, Ferrothorn, Galvantula. However I believe that almost every page will have plagiarized content. I suggest further checks are carried out at your end. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:04, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
::I went through every Gen V page, and I think I removed them all, is it only gen V articles? [[User:Crimsonnavy|Crimsonnavy]] 20:17, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
:::That's all that I'm aware of, but it can't hurt to check a few of the earlier pages. Thank you for your help. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:37, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

==Quote Question==
PsychicRider thought I should ask you for a second opinion. If I'm getting quotes from a game back when the capitalization was crazy (POKéMON, etc.), should I maintain that capitalization on the page or change it to standard capitalization? Right now I have it as done in the game, as much as it pains me. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 02:14, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
:Use standard capitalization. Apologies for the belated reply. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:09, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
::I like to use <nowiki><sc></nowiki> on quotes which have been capitalised in-game. It doesn't look like ugly all-caps, but it keeps the fact that it was all-caps intact. See [[Pink Butterfree#In the games]] for an example in practice. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:08, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
:::Seems belated reply was nothing to worry about. And that's a good idea, Snorlax, thank you. :) [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 20:33, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

== How to fix a stub ==

Hey Trom. I am a fairly new user and I wanted to fix up the Ringtown Stub. I have the game (and the only thing left to do on the game is transfer the egg). But I am not too sure where to start could you help me? [[User:Truthseeker4449|Truthseeker4449]] 20:25, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
:I'm not trom, but that article could do with a little more detail on the description, and a summary of what occurs there in the plot (although without revealing too many spoilers). [[Lyra Forest]] is an example of what should be included. Thanks for helping out! [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:03, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

== Gastly? or Gengar? ==

Trom, I was editing a table on the Go-Rock Base page and I was adding gastly to the list, when I viewed the preview I noticed that instead of picture of Gastly, there was a picture of Gengar! I might have made an error in the chart. but I am hoping you can find out what is wrong.

P.S. I am working fixing up the Pokemon ranger articles, So it is likely I will ask for help again.
[[User:Truthseeker4449|Truthseeker4449]] 21:20, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
:The table is fixed now. You just had the menusprite wrong. :p --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 21:29, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

== Edit Request ==

Hey Trom, I have a small task for you and really like it if you or someone else did. I have been working on the Pokémon Ranger Articles, and I have noticed that Ringtown article has a small error that I can't seem to fix. Under the location info, where it says there is nothing to the east, both picture and the article itself show that the Kisara (sp?) Plains is to the east. Thanks. [[User:Truthseeker4449|Truthseeker4449]] 23:24, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ringtown&diff=1470488&oldid=1469962 Done]. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 00:22, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

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==Please...==
You've been making too many edits to the <code>User talk:</code> namespace lately. Please take your conversations to [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/ the forums], a chatroom, e-mail, an IM service, or something similar, as that many edits will slow down the server. --''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 20:40, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
:Oh is my face red. Look at me all abusing the user talk namespace on five other user's talk pages and my own. Man, thanks. I'll think twice about carrying on a discussion that will not end until I win...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:59, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

==CharacterDex Question==
Um, in light of the last section, I hope I won't be causing a problem, but this IS what the CharacterDex page said to do. Recently, I've noticed that pages like [[N|N's]] have all his quotes from everywhere, whereas [[Brendan]] didn't have any quotes before I added the Match Call section. What is the official CharacterDex policy? Personally, I prefer having all the quotes, but I was wondering which was considered better. :) [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 23:51, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
:I agree. I think it would be better to have quotes for all game characters. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:59, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
::Okay cool thank you. :) I can start getting quotes for some characters, but what I'm wondering now is would it be better for me to gather all the quotes from the whole game and then put it on the page, or put the quotes up as I go and put an incomplete template or something like that? The second would be easier, but I want to be sure that's okay. :) PS: Could this get added to the to-do list or something if we want the quotes? That thing hasn't been updated in.... Over a year, actually. (I apologize for asking a ton of questions. >__<) [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 23:11, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
:::No problem. You can tag them with incomplete and just use the reason "needs quotes" or something. Every little thing helps. And yes, I can add that to the to-do list. Cheers~ --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:34, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

== Confused...? ==

A user by the name {{u|blastoiseboy19}} created his/her own page. I believe that one is not allowed to create a user page for him/herself. I'm guessing all the people with authoritiy missed this? [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 02:36, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
:Users are allowed to make their own userpages and edit it once a day. If he does over edit, then we step in to protect it. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 03:27, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
::I think you misunderstood me. I meant to say that he/she created the page when he was not allowed to.. Do you get what I'm trying to say? [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 04:24, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
:::I'm not following you, sorry. He made edits and followed the rules, so he was able to create his userpage. I'm not sure exactly what you mean though. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 04:29, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
::::Okay, how exactly does one user get a user page and become an official member? The red link for the username becomes blue, and that shows that that user has become a member. It seems to me that blastoise19 created his page. I thought that only users of a higher authority, like you are allowed to create user pages for newbie members to like what I am now. Perhaps I'm not understanding the whole thing here? I hope this clears everything up for you so you can clear my confusion. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 05:16, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
:::::Once you register, you're an "official member". The redlink means that the userpage is not yet created. Once the user has edited enough mainspace pages and is autoconfirmed, they can create the userpage. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 06:05, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
::::::Thanks for clearing up my confusion. It's just that I have seen some users create user pages on their own and get immediately undone by others. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 06:09, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
:::::::Might you have been thinking of users who create it in the mainspace?--[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 06:48, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
::::::::Woah. I looked at a random talk page and see my name. Yeah, I had a little chat with {{u|the dark lord trombonator}} and I got *cough*indirect*cough* permission to make a user page... user tags were just the coolest thing a week ago for noobs. :D [[User:Blastoiseboy19|Blastoiseboy19]][[User talk:Blastoiseboy19|(Talk)]] was here at 19:43, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

==MenisPuncher==
I don't know if this name is appropiate or not so I thought I'd tell you about it. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 19:35, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
:I just welcomed him, sorry. I wasn't thinking for a minute if it was appropriate or not... :( [[User:Pokabu82|Pokabu]][[user talk:Pokabu82|82]] 19:38, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
::It's alright, we all make mistakes. They've been blocked but allowed to make a new account. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 19:43, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

==?Why?==
Why did you protect me from editing my page?!?!? {{unsigned|DrBrock}}
:Because you did not read the one a day edit policy. Although, looking at the page history, I mistakenly used the wrong protection time. You can have it back, however, one edit a day, or you will lose it again. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 21:29, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

== Final Gambit ==

Hey, could you reply [[talk:Final Gambit (move)|here]] concerning my undone edit, I think it's just a misunderstanding of what "Final Gambit will not faint a Pokémon with Sturdy." means though. [[User:Pikiwyn|'''Pikiwyn''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 18:31, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
:Alright, thank you. I've replied~ --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 19:44, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

== Question about additional personal pages ==

Hi! I want to ask if it is allowed here on Bulbapedia to create some more personal pages (besides my Main User Page). I mean to create sub-pages of my Main Page. Something like this: [[User:ATEMVEGETA/test page]].

If this is allowed then can I create as many pages as I want? (I want to create a page for each Pokemon Glitch). Also can I put pictures and videos in those pages?

Also, what is that one-edit-a-day thing?

Thanks! [[User:ATEMVEGETA|ATEMVEGETA]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 12:33, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
:I don't know how many more you can have actually, but there might be a limit, as Bulbapedia would probably not like 30 subpages, however, you can create that userpage. The one a day edit is in place because the servers are wonky from the Black & White rush and as such, limit to the userspace is to try to prevent server stress. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 16:11, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

== .png move ==

hey, can you move b.PNG to b.png, i forgot to change end of name, all windows computers do that for some reason :P --[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 02:50, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
:Yes I can, and it's been done. :D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 03:21, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

== Paul's Drapion ==

I put the protect template on Paul's Drapion's page after it was changed to a redirect as it just lost its notability status and there may have been edit conflicts. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 03:48, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
:Then just ask a person to protect it then. Otherwise, the redirect is broken. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 04:00, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
::I don't feel that it's a pressing matter at the time. If someone does try to revert, then action will be taken. Until then, it should stay unprotected. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 04:02, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

== Just a thought ==

hi there, i only made an account to voice this tactic, i am thinking that in the Justified ability section you can include the beat up tactic for a double battle. The best thing to do is get a weavile which knows beat up, or chain breed a charizard like i have done, then use beat up against your own partner in a double battle. I use cobalion and i play online, with 4 people, so his attack with go up 4 stages(as beat up attacks the same number of times as the number of pokemon in your party) and from here on that pokemon, cobalion being quite fast and now will extremely high attack power, will sweep the other team easily. I didnt want to keep this to myself so hopefully it will be made known by you editing or creating a page? thanx 4 listening.[[User:Solar|Solar]] 09:42, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
:It might be a good strategy, but it won't get put on the page. We're an encyclopedia, not a strategy guide, so we don't have strategies on the pages. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 09:45, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

== Sorry... ==

Sorry about that. Won't happen again! [[User:ISB|ISB]] 19:48, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
:It's alright, just try to contribute more to the article itself. We get a lot of trivia daily and we're trying to cut it down to a very minimum for right now, hence the current trivia ban. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 19:51, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

==Just to tell you==
[http://pokemonfanon.wikia.com this_wiki] has copied templates from Bulbapedia. Anything to do about this issue? Plan an attack like we did on 2008-2009 on The Pokemon Wiki. [[User:Slipknot Darkrai|Slipknot Darkrai]] 21:21, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
:We do not attack, we will try to talk with them and get them to change it. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 21:27, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
::Then why don't we talk and make a friendly agreement to that seeing that it is illegal. [[User:Slipknot Darkrai|Slipknot Darkrai]] 21:45, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
:::I don't know why people think we organized an attack on them. We've never organized an attack on anyone. That's not how we roll. *puts on sunglasses* -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:48, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
::::We will and we're on the case. {{u|The dark lord trombonator|Trom}} is the resident copyright issue dealer, and he's been alerted to the issue and he will handle it by speaking to whoever is in charge. Thank you for your concern though, we've got this down. 8D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 21:50, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

== HerbalFusion ==
Keeps adding non-official information based on personal derivations and needs a permablock for this blatant vandalism according to the blocking policies for he is adding unconfirmed/false information and that is vandalism.(Also that is personal content in the mainspace.) Plus, his refusal to stop this blatant vandalism is called insubordination and is the same reason felinoel was permablocked. Please stop this ignored vandal before he alters the site's Pokémon pages irrevocably and permanantly. Thank you. {{unsigned|Muk-a-matic}}
:Whoa whoa whoa, calm down. Looking at his edits, they're not as false as they seem. {{p|Amoonguss}} are found on Route 10 and 11 in the tall dark grass, with the ones on Route 10 having their heads seen, as what he wrote. [[BW032]] shows the Cottonee riding on the wind, hence the episode name, together during the mating season, as well as the Cottonee that I believe Ash befriended using Cotton Guard to defend itself against Ash's Scraggy. I don't recall the Helping Hand bit, but I'll ask around. None of what he wrote is in anyway vandalism or blockable. Felinoel and this user are not even comparable, so please don't refer to them as such. This user is trying to help, while Felinoel was a clear troll. Thank you for understanding. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:28, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

== Trivia additions ==

I understand the reasoning behind the recent ban on trivia additions, but I think it was a little over the top to actually delete my addition to Azelf's page. Azelf currently has no trivia associated with it at all. If its page is in need of anything, I would argue it's trivia and not "actual content", as it's the only Pokémon to my memory whose Trivia section is completely blank.

I'm willing to accept that the other Pokémon whose Trivia section I updated with essentially the same message perhaps could do without additional trivia given the crackdown (though its own section has a mere two lines of it). But is one of Azelf's most unique and distinguishing competitive characteristics so irrelevant and pointless to warrant its removal, leaving its Trivia section again completely blank?
[[User:Jumpman16|Jumpman16]] 00:42, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
:Just because a page doesn't have any trivia associated with it doesn't mean we should automatically find something to add to it. Pages don't need trivia now. If there is nothing that can be added to the page content, there are dozens of more important things to do than add trivia. We have stubs that need expanding, pages that are actually incomplete, images that need uploading and pages that need to be created. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 00:54, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

==Re: Just so you Know==
Yes, why? I got the game on the first day. -[[User:DialgaMaster105| I'm a Girl. People Don't get that.... ]][[User talk:DialgaMaster105| Speak To The Master...DialgaMaster! ]] 01:01, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
:Because you changed the English names back to the Japanese names. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:03, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
::I did? I don't remember doing that. When? -[[User:DialgaMaster105| I'm a Girl. People Don't get that.... ]][[User talk:DialgaMaster105| Speak To The Master...DialgaMaster! ]] 21:43, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
:::Yes, right [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Alomomola_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=prev&oldid=1442568 here]. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:18, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

== Togepi (Sinnoh) ==

[[Bulbapedia:Notability requirements/Anime Pokémon|Our notability policy]]. And I quote: Pokémon that belong to characters of the day are never notable for their own article. '''However, in rare instances, an exception may be made if the Pokémon itself was a character of the day'''. I think that that Togepi more than qualifies as a character of the day in its own right, given that it was the focus of pretty much the entire episode. I would've brought it up on the talk page, but the article was deleted by you within seconds of the delete tag being put up on the page. Please reconsider, based on what I've told you. Thank you. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 02:45, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
::We have that policy in place to prevent exactly what you made that article into: a summary of the episode itself. Without it, it would have been just another stub. You do not have any authority to announce that you'll "make this page myself right now." You run it by an admin for their consent and approval. That policy isn't there for show. The admin you should have went to is Kenji-girl. It's her job to decide who and what is notable. She is the leader of Project Anime, not you. Also, you should have put the article in your userspace first before you went ahead and created it in the mainspace. Please remember this next time. I think you've been here long enough to know how things work. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:52, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
:::Ah, OK. But wasn't it just announced that articles about anime Pokémon ''shouldn't'' be made in the userspace anymore? Anyway, sorry. I'll keep this in mind in the future. And you're right, I've been here long enough, I ought to know how this stuff works by now. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 02:55, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
::::I'm pretty sure that's for the recent string of userspace articles revolving around the rumored Pokémon the characters are supposed to get, ie Dent's Audino, Ash's Roggenrola, etc. If you're unsure about the notability of a Pokémon, then the next best thing is to ask a staff member or bring it up on a talk page. That's what they're there for. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 03:00, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
:::::Ah, I see. That's what I'll do next time. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 03:01, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

==Inspiration Behind Meloetta==
I noticed an insightful suggestion for the inspiration behind Meloetta some months ago on Bulbapedia, clearly an indication of the careful research that goes into this premier Pokémon encyclopedia. I was surprised not to see it today so I re-posted something similar.

"Meloetta appears to be based on the Muses of Greek Mythology, in particular Terpsichore, the Muse of dance and chorus, and possibly Euterpe, the Muse of music and poetry."

Minutes after this was deleted again. Puzzled, I reviewed the history page only to read your note: "ONM AU&NZ Issue 30 June 2011 Page 63: Masuda says that no legendarys are related to Greek mythology". Here in the U.S., I really was not aware of this clarification by such an insider. Sorry for inconvenience – it was simply an earnest effort to uphold the level of scholarship that actually lies behind each Pokémon species. Moreover, what I am most sorry for is that Victini will also lose some incredible background as well in light of this revelation: "Conceptually, it might draw inspiration from Nike, the Greek, winged goddess of victory, or Victoria, the Roman equivalent of Nike. Its tail wings may be a reference to Nike's wings." I suppose such are tests to our commitment to accuracy.

[[User:AceTrainerAlvaro|AceTrainerAlvaro]] 22:50, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
:I totally understand, I really do. We actually believed it to be based from a Greek standpoint, seeing as a lot of the inspiration was more western this time around, however since that magazine came out, it appears that it wasn't the case. However, Meloetta isn't out in the open yet, so it might still be based on Greek mythology, we'll have to see if there's any publication after it's revealed publicly. However, for now, we should leave it as it's not a Greek inspiration, if that's alright. D: --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:02, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

== How to add. ==

Im trying to add my name to the team CharcterDex, but if i add just my user name at the bottom of the list, it wont show! it just becomes of the part after the list. What do i need to type ecacttly to add my name?[[User:Bobosmith01|~Bobo]] 23:03, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
:You put your name after the show/hide function, which I added because we have a lot of users, so it wasn't appearing in the list. But, don't worry, I've fixed it. :D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:07, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

== about the shiny ditto glitch ==

i noticed you changed my informative article about the shiny ditto glitch into a redirect to a vague, nonhelpful part of the list of minor glitches. i undid this, as i think the article i made is helpful and well made, if not at least a good start. please dont make it a redirect again, or at least explain your position before you do.
[[User:DJLO|DJLO]] 00:25, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
:Too late. It is a minor glitch, as noted on that page. Do not tell me not to change it into a redirect, as I don't feel it worthy as needing its own page. However, you are free to add more info to the section on the page it is currently redirecting to. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 00:27, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

== Trivia issue ==

I don't see why I don't have the right to add Trivia. I assure you that Trivia '''DOES''' count as content, and many other people do the same. I dont think you need to bring that up on me.
--[[User:Satoshi101|Satoshi101]] 03:07, 6 June 2011 (UTC) 03:06, 6 June 2011 (UTC)Satoshi101
:Uh, dude, at the moment, NOBODY has the right to add trivia. It's part of a way of dealing with the high server load. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 03:08, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
:::Considering the site notice says "Do not add any trivia" in bold, apparently I do need to. It's for everyone, not just you. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 03:09, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
::::and btw MM, it isnt about server load. it was never about server load. we simply have other jobs to do rather than add trivia right now. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:44, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
:::::Well I can't be blamed for this. You should bug other people who do this about it. User see, user do! It said as "Black and White server is still high", I don't think that would apply to earlier series. [[User:Satoshi101|Satoshi101]] 04:02, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
:::::Look, just so you know, I'm new to this stuff. [[User:Satoshi101|Satoshi101]] 04:02, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
::::::We do that to other users, thanks. I didn't just decide to pick on you about this. We go to every user who decides to ignore the site notice and add trivia. I am aware that you are a new user, but that doesn't mean you can ignore the site notice. "Black and White sever load is still high" refers to the stress of people viewing Bulbapedia for information, not about adding trivia to BW pages. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 04:28, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
:::::::Ok, I guess there's no point in arguing more. [[User:Satoshi101|Satoshi101]] 21:54, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

== Mecha image ==

Since you are so good at uploading anime screeenshots, could you please upload a picture of one of [[Team Rocket's mechas]], the one they used in [[DP182]]? Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] 11:51, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
:Yes I can, and done. Cheers~ --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 12:04, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
::Now I would need a picture of the mecha used in [[AG100]]. Can you do it? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] 12:13, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
:::Done, and uploaded. 8D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 12:22, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

== Re:Finny D: ==

Sorry about that overediting. It just wasn't clear to me was the limit one or three edits. Now I feel really stupid as it was os oblivious (hammering my head). --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] 14:05, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

==Possibility for 1-edit thing ==

Wouldn't it be possible to auto-protect the userpage for 1 day after 1 edit to it, just to prevent multiple edits in one day? --Ninegon Forever! 04:01, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
:Probably would be easier, but it's probably a technical thing that would have to be done, which I have no control over, however I can bring it up with another staff member. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 04:44, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
::As of right now, the idea would be difficult to implement, and we're passing on it for the time being, however we may come back to it at a later date. Thank you for your suggestion though. :D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 04:52, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

== Shadow Triad masks ==

I just wanted to know your thoughts on how exactly it's an opinion that their masks are shaped like Pansage, Panpour, and Pansear's fur. Cause they are. It is in fact drawn that way in the comic. So....where is the opinion? :S [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 04:41, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
:People share different views, you can see the Elemental Monkeys because you're obsessed with the Striaton City gym leaders, however, others may see it as different lines on how they're drawn to differentiate them from each other. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 04:48, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
::I'm sorry but I don't think you had to point out the "obsession" thing. The monkey mask pattern caught my eye too. I know we have the "keep opinions out" thing here but I don't see how that can be interpreted any other way. Like [[Carny]] being based on Carnivine. Deth even OK'd it while we were talking about it. Also, nothing was being mentioned about the Striaton Gym Leaders. Just the monkeys. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:04, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
:::With the case of Carny, his Japanese and English names are explicitly based off the Pokémon. Even if it is based of the monkey trio, it still is an opinion as it's not as explicitly based on the monkey trio other than a similar line. There is nothing to base it off of, so yeah, it is an opinion. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:12, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
::::But it's not an opinion that their mask patterns are identical to the monkeys' face patterns. But saying that the masks are '''based on''' the monkeys would be an opinion.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 08:42, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
:::::It doesn't matter, I brought it up with CoolPikachu! and he too felt like it was an opinion. If you don't agree, fine. Bring it up with him, but don't get into an edit war. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 16:02, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

== Article Title ==

Hello, I was just wondering if you could help me changing the actual title of an article I just created, [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pokemonaus_Forums for this]]. Is there a way to fix it, or do you have to delete the article and re create it? Thanks for your time --[[User:Trevorrrj|Trevorrrj]] 10:46, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
:When your account is considered old enough by the software, the move option will be available. As a staff member with grey hair and a walking frame, I can move it for you. Where does it need to be? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:57, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

== Me and Lazer ==

Wait! The reason the other users and I share an IP Address is becuase we first logged in to Bulbapedia at our school. We aren't the same person. :--[[User:SuperAipom7|SuperAipom7]] ''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|Questions?]])'' 00:50, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
:And the other two? --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 00:52, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
::Who, Blarchar and Me, Myself, and I? Yes, they go to the same school as me too. Niether of them go on here anymore. :--[[User:SuperAipom7|SuperAipom7]] ''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|Questions?]])'' 00:54, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
:::Alright. Thank you for replying. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 00:55, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
::::Just be sure to keep that Lazer guy away. He deleted my talk page! :--[[User:SuperAipom7|SuperAipom7]] ''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|Questions?]])'' 01:13, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
:::::Kenji-girl blocked him for a month, and I thought he was a sock puppet, so I infi blocked him, but he's not, so I'm going to reblock him for a month. However, if he gives you problems when his block expires, let me know. Cheers. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:20, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
::::::Cheers to you as well! :--[[User:SuperAipom7|SuperAipom7]] ''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|Questions?]])'' 01:22, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

== Could you? ==

Could you add [[User:SuperAipom7/Jigglypuff (SSB)|this]] to that template that has all of the mainspacable userspace articles, please? :--[[User:SuperAipom7|SuperAipom7]] ''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|Questions?]])'' 16:59, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
:Sorry, that's Nate's template and he gets angry when others but him touch it. However, you can leave him a message on his talk page asking him too. Cheers. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 17:06, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
::Thanks. :--[[User:SuperAipom7|SuperAipom7]] ''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|Questions?]])'' 17:07, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
:::No problem. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 17:08, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

==Quote question==
So, if I'm getting quotes from a third generation game - say, Emerald - where the capitalization is all crazy, do we keep the quotes with the crazy capitalization, or fix it? I'm thinking keep it, although I don't like it. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 01:45, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
:I think we should to be consistent with the games, but I'd have to ask around just for confirmation. If you want a second opinion, you can ask {{ut|The dark lord trombonator|Trom}}. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:47, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
::Okay, I'll do that. On a slightly related note, when I was doing stuff with {{ga|Brendan}}'s page, I ended up with headers that had six =s, and those headers have very small font... is there a way for me to reduce the number of headers and stay within the CharacterDex format? [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 02:11, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
:::Quotes could be a new section with 3 ='s and the game section having 4 ='s, similar to [[Alder]]'s page. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:29, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
::::I could do that, although it's a little diffrent than what's on the CharacterDex page... I'll have to do it later though. Thank you! [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 02:49, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
:::::Well, I think there's room for compromise, especially when it seems to look difficult, like on Brendan's page. No problem. :D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:51, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

== "wow..." edit summary on [[Brock's Vulpix]] ==

Can I please ask you to refrain from such comments in edit summaries. I am fully aware of the typo I made and there is no need to be condescending. The only reason I didn't correct it immediately is because I do not have the power to move images in the Archives. Please don't be rude. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|Toon Ganondorf ]] [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|(t]] [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|c)]]''' 06:02, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
:It's not breaking the Code of Conduct in any way. I can say it if I want to. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 11:30, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
::It, and your smug response, is unbecoming of an admin. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|Toon Ganondorf ]] [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|(t]] [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|c)]]''' 00:07, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
:::Saying "Wow..." in an edit summary isn't any indication of my attitude or my personality, so I would appreciate if you would stop judging me based on one harmless thing I said. The upload form tells you what to do, to make sure your file name is correct so we don't have to change it. That means it was your job to make sure it was correct at the beginning. It says "Did you make sure that the file name has no errors? Renaming media files is tedious." Second, you seem to know who is staff, so that means you should have gone to someone on the staff to change it, not add it to the page because that makes you look bad. Next time you should use the {{template|move}} template. If you have more questions, you should ask the staff or go to our FAQ. There's a click able section called "This file has a wrong name, how do I change it?" Thank you. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:13, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
::::I am experienced in Wiki, and yes I know all of that. I apologise for my single, one-off typo which I will not repeat. I was just letting you know that what you did could be construed as condescending and thought that you might appreciate this information so that you could be careful. However, it seems that simply swallowing your pride and apologising, even if you do not believe you are in the wrong, is beyond you, so you can have things your way. Good day. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|Toon Ganondorf ]] [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|(t]] [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|c)]]''' 01:50, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

==General issue...==
This is probably not your realm, but lately I've been having a hard time logging in and making edits due to a "loss of session data" or something like that. Do you know what the deal with that is, or who I should talk to? (Including this post. It recommends I log out, log back in, try again, and I did that a few minutes ago.) [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 02:27, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
:As far as I know, it's just the server being all weird and wonky. It's just something the server does from time to time when the server load is high. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:34, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
::Oh okay. Sorry to bother you then. -sweat drop- [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 03:43, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

== Deletion request ==

Sorry for bothering you again, but could you delete [[User:SuperAipom7/OVER 9000!|this]] and [[User:SuperAipom7/My Usertags|this]]? They are failed attempted to make a usertag. I asked somebody to delete it before, and then I tried again. I promise I won't try it again. Thanks. :--[[User:SuperAipom7|SuperAipom7]] ''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|Questions?]])'' 02:38, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
:It's alright, and it's been done. Cheers~ --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:41, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
::Thanks again. :--[[User:SuperAipom7|SuperAipom7]] ''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|Questions?]])'' 02:42, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

User talk:PsychicRider/Archive8

2011-07-01T02:27:19Z

Ikarishipper900:

Brendan (game)

2011-07-01T02:20:35Z

Ikarishipper900: /* In the games */ Removed a stupid header

{{CharInfobox |
color={{ruby color}} |
corecolor={{ruby color light}} |
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}} |
name=Brendan |
jname=ユウキ |
tmname=Yūki |
image=Emerald Brendan.png |
size=200px |
caption=Art from {{v2|Emerald}} |
gender=Male |
hometown=[[Littleroot Town]] |
region=[[Hoenn]] (originally [[Johto]] if chosen by the player) |
relatives=Mom, [[Norman]] (as player) [[Professor Birch]], unnamed mother and brother[[Pokémon Emerald Version|*]] (as rival) |
colors=no |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]], [[Player character]] |
numpkmncaught=Varies with canon |
game=yes |
generation={{gen|III}} |
games={{3v2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}} |
leader=no |
anime=no |
anime=cameo|
epnum=M06 |
epname=Jirachi: Wish Maker|
manga=counterpart |
mangacounterpart={{adv|Ruby}} |
roundnum=PS181|
roundname=VS. Cacnea |
}}
'''Brendan''' (Japanese: '''ユウキ''' ''Yūki'') is the male choice for the [[player character]] in {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}, and also serves as the [[rival]] in the same games if the player chooses to play as the {{ga|May|female character}}.
==In the games==
===As player===
If Brendan is selected as the player character he starts his journey moving from his home in Johto to his new home in the town of Littleroot in Hoenn. After saving Prof. Birch from a wild Pokémon, he is given one of the three starters of the Hoenn region. Brendan develops a close bond with {{ga|May}}, and eventually [[Wally]], who both act as his rivals. Brendan goes on to gather the eight badges of Hoenn, stop the plans of [[Team Aqua]] and/or [[Team Magma]] and conquer the Pokémon League all before going off to face the Battle Frontier (in Emerald).

====Names====
While the player can name this character as is the case with all player characters, there are several default names provided for him. In {{v2|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}, he has four default names, including three shared between the two versions. The two variant names between games collaborates with the theme of the plot, referring to "land" and "sea" respectively.

In the English version, these names are '''Land'''on and '''Sea'''n; in the Japanese version, リクヤ '''''Riku'''ya'' and カイト '''''Kai'''to'' (陸 ''riku'' means land and 海 ''kai'' means sea). This is also the case in other languages. Additionally, in the English version, two of the shared names—Terry and Seth—seem to be influenced by the same theme.

In all translated versions of {{v2|Emerald}}, Brendan has the same default names as in Pokémon Ruby, as well as 16 additional names which don't seem to hold any significance. Consequently, there is no default name that relates to "sea" in Emerald. Notably, as the player character, the name Brendan (or its other language counterparts) is never offered as a default name in any version.

As a rival, Brendan's name is static.

The full list of default names for Brendan as the male playable character in the games are as follows:
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ruby color}};"
! Language !! Ruby and Emerald !! Sapphire !! Emerald only
|-
|| English
||
* ''Landon''
* ''Terry''
* ''Seth''
* ''Tom''
||
* ''Sean''
* ''Terry''
* ''Seth''
* ''Tom''
||
{|
|-
|
* ''Brett''
* ''Casey''
* ''Collin''
* ''Darren''
|
* ''Easton''
* ''Jaxson''
* ''Johnny''
* ''Jude''
|
* ''Kenny''
* ''Milton''
* ''Quincy''
* ''Reid''
|
* ''Stanley''
* ''Stu''
* ''Teru''
* ''Walker''
|}
|-
|| Japanese
||
* リクヤ ''Rikuya''
* ヒロアキ ''Hiroaki''
* ヒトシ ''Hitoshi''
* ケイ ''Kei''
||
* カイト ''Kaito''
* ヒロアキ ''Hiroaki''
* ヒトシ ''Hitoshi''
* ケイ ''Kei''
||
{|
|-
|
* イツオ ''Itsuo''
* ギョク ''Gyoku''
* シュウサク ''Shūsaku''
* セイゴ ''Seigo''
* ダイサク ''Daisaku''
* タカヒト ''Takahito''
* タツヤ ''Tatsuya''
* ダニエル ''Daniel''
|
* テルキ ''Teruki''
* トム ''Tom''
* トモヤ ''Tomoya''
* ユキヒコ ''Yukihiko''
* ラルド ''Rald''
* リチャード ''Richard''
* リュウ ''Ryū''
* リョウタ ''Ryōta''
|}
|-
|| German
||
* ''Roland''
* ''Daniel''
* ''Helge''
* ''Jan''
||
* ''Sebold''
* ''Daniel''
* ''Helge''
* ''Jan''
||
{|
|-
|
* ''Anselm''
* ''David''
* ''Dieter''
* ''Erik''
|
* ''Florian''
* ''Haiko''
* ''Johann''
* ''Jörg''
|
* ''Klaus''
* ''Markus''
* ''Martin''
* ''Michael''
|
* ''Paul''
* ''Rolf''
* ''Stefan''
* ''Thomas''
|}
|-
|| Spanish
||
* ''Teren''
* ''Quimi''
* ''Rufo''
* ''Arturo''
||
* ''Marino''
* ''Quimi''
* ''Rufo''
* ''Arturo''
||
{|
|-
|
* ''Aitor''
* ''Arturo''
* ''Carlo''
* ''Daniel''
|
* ''Eleno''
* ''Enrique''
* ''Jesuso''
* ''Juli''
|
* ''Lareo''
* ''Luis''
* ''Marcelo''
* ''Marco''
|
* ''Mario''
* ''Mauri''
* ''Roberto''
* ''Pedro''
|}
|-
|| French
||
* ''Thierry''
* ''Thomas''
* ''Daniel''
* ''Seb''
||
* ''Martial''
* ''Thomas''
* ''Daniel''
* ''Seb''
||
{|
|-
|
* ''Alec''
* ''Arno''
* ''Colin''
* ''Daniel''
|
* ''Fabrice''
* ''Gary''
* ''Gibus''
* ''Johann''
|
* ''Johnny''
* ''Jules''
* ''Manuel''
* ''Ruddy''
|
* ''Severin''
* ''Stan''
* ''Stef''
* ''Thibaud''
|}
|-
|| Italian
||
* ''Landon''
* ''Marco''
* ''Paolo''
* ''Lucio''
||
* ''Martin''
* ''Marco''
* ''Paolo''
* ''Lucio''
||
|}

===As rival===
If Brendan is not selected as the player, he is helping his dad finish the Hoenn [[Pokédex]] and becoming a Pokémon professor. He is also the player's rival and friend. Unlike other [[rival]]s (except for {{ga|May}} when playing as Brendan), he gives up being a [[Pokémon Trainer|Trainer]], making them the only rivals unavailable for battle after defeating the [[Elite Four]]. Additionally, they both are the only ones to not [[evolution|evolve]] their [[starter Pokémon]] into its final form.

In the games he appears in, Brendan battles with the following Pokémon.

====Pokémon in Ruby and Sapphire====
=====First battle=====
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}300
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 103
|locationname=Route 103
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=255
|pokemon=Torchic
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Scratch|move1type=Normal
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal}}
}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}300
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 103
|locationname=Route 103
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=258
|pokemon=Mudkip
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal}}
}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}300
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 103
|locationname=Route 103
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=252
|pokemon=Treecko
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Pound|move1type=Normal
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal}}
}}

=====Second battle=====
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1200
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 110
|locationname=Route 110
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=285
|pokemon=Shroomish
|gender=female
|level=18
|type1=Grass
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Unknown
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal
|move2=Stun Spore|move2type=Grass
|move3=Leech Seed|move3type=Grass
|move4=Mega Drain|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=320
|pokemon=Wailmer
|gender=male
|level=18
|type1=Water
|ability=Water Veil
|held=Unknown
|move1=Splash|move1type=Water
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal
|move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water
|move4=Rollout|move4type=Rock}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=256
|pokemon=Combusken
|gender=male
|level=20
|type1=Fire|type2=Fighting
|ability=Blaze
|held=Unknown
|move1=Focus Energy|move1type=Normal
|move2=Ember|move2type=Fire
|move3=Double Kick|move3type=Fighting
|move4=Peck|move4type=Flying}}
}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1200
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 110
|locationname=Route 110
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=285
|pokemon=Shroomish
|gender=female
|level=18
|type1=Grass
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Unknown
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal
|move2=Stun Spore|move2type=Grass
|move3=Leech Seed|move3type=Grass
|move4=Mega Drain|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=322
|pokemon=Numel
|gender=female
|level=18
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Unknown
|move1=Growl|move1type=Normal
|move2=Tackle|move2type=Normal
|move3=Ember|move3type=Fire}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=259
|pokemon=Marshtomp
|gender=male
|level=20
|type1=Water
|type2=Ground
|ability=Torrent
|held=Unknown
|move1=Water Gun|move1type=Water
|move2=Bide|move2type=Normal
|move3=Mud Shot|move3type=Ground
|move4=Foresight|move4type=Normal}}
}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1200
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 110
|locationname=Route 110
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=320
|pokemon=Wailmer
|gender=male
|level=18
|type1=Water
|ability=Water Veil
|held=Unknown
|move1=Splash|move1type=Water
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal
|move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water
|move4=Rollout|move4type=Rock}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=322
|pokemon=Numel
|gender=female
|level=18
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Unknown
|move1=Growl|move1type=Normal
|move2=Tackle|move2type=Normal
|move3=Ember|move3type=Fire}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=253
|pokemon=Grovyle
|gender=male
|level=20
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|held=Unknown
|move1=Absorb|move1type=Grass
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal
|move3=Fury Cutter|move3type=Bug
|move4=Pursuit|move4type=Dark}}
}}

=====Third battle=====
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1860
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 119
|locationname=Route 119
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=285
|pokemon=Shroomish
|gender=female
|level=29
|type1=Grass
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Unknown
|move1=Headbutt|move1type=Normal
|move2=PoisonPowder|move2type=Poison
|move3=Leech Seed|move3type=Grass
|move4=Mega Drain|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=320
|pokemon=Wailmer
|gender=male
|level=29
|type1=Water
|ability=Water Veil
|held=Unknown
|move1=Rollout|move1type=Rock
|move2=Astonish|move2type=Ghost
|move3=Water Pulse|move3type=Water
|move4=Whirlpool|move4type=Water}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=256
|pokemon=Combusken
|gender=male
|level=31
|type1=Fire|type2=Fighting
|ability=Blaze
|held=Unknown
|move1=Double Kick|move1type=Fighting
|move2=Bulk Up|move2type=Fighting
|move3=Sand-Attack|move3type=Ground
|move4=Peck|move4type=Flying}}}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1860
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 119
|locationname=Route 119
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=285
|pokemon=Shroomish
|gender=female
|level=29
|type1=Grass
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Unknown
|move1=Headbutt|move1type=Normal
|move2=PoisonPowder|move2type=Poison
|move3=Leech Seed|move3type=Grass
|move4=Mega Drain|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=322
|pokemon=Numel
|gender=female
|level=29
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Unknown
|move1=Ember|move1type=Fire
|move2=Magnitude|move2type=Ground
|move3=Focus Energy|move3type=Normal
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=259
|pokemon=Marshtomp
|gender=male
|level=31
|type1=Water|type2=Ground
|ability=Torrent
|held=Unknown
|move1=Mud Shot|move1type=Ground
|move2=Mud Sport|move2type=Ground
|move3=Foresight|move3type=Normal
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1860
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 119
|locationname=Route 119
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=320
|pokemon=Wailmer
|gender=male
|level=29
|type1=Water
|ability=Water Veil
|held=Unknown
|move1=Rollout|move1type=Rock
|move2=Astonish|move2type=Ghost
|move3=Water Pulse|move3type=Water
|move4=Whirlpool|move4type=Water}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=322
|pokemon=Numel
|gender=female
|level=29
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Unknown
|move1=Ember|move1type=Fire
|move2=Magnitude|move2type=Ground
|move3=Focus Energy|move3type=Normal
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=253
|pokemon=Grovyle
|gender=male
|level=31
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|held=Unknown
|move1=Leaf Blade|move1type=Grass
|move2=Screech|move2type=Normal
|move3=Fury Cutter|move3type=Bug
|move4=Pursuit|move4type=Dark}}}}

=====Fourth battle=====
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}2040
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Lilycove City
|pokemon=4
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=277
|pokemon=Swellow
|gender=female
|level=31
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying
|ability=Guts
|held=Unknown
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal
|move2=Wing Attack|move2type=Flying
|move3=Endeavor|move3type=Normal
|move4=Double Team|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=320
|pokemon=Wailmer
|gender=male
|level=32
|type1=Water
|ability=Water Veil
|held=Unknown
|move1=Mist|move1type=Ice
|move2=Astonish|move2type=Ghost
|move3=Water Pulse|move3type=Water
|move4=Whirlpool|move4type=Water}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=285
|pokemon=Shroomish
|gender=female
|level=32
|type1=Grass
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Unknown
|move1=Headbutt|move1type=Normal
|move2=PoisonPowder|move2type=Poison
|move3=Leech Seed|move3type=Grass
|move4=Mega Drain|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=256
|pokemon=Combusken
|gender=male
|level=34
|type1=Fire|type2=Fighting
|ability=Blaze
|held=Unknown
|move1=Double Kick|move1type=Fighting
|move2=Bulk Up|move2type=Fighting
|move3=Sand-Attack|move3type=Ground
|move4=Peck|move4type=Flying}}}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}2040
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Lilycove City
|pokemon=4
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=277
|pokemon=Swellow
|gender=female
|level=31
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying
|ability=Guts
|held=Unknown
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal
|move2=Wing Attack|move2type=Flying
|move3=Endeavor|move3type=Normal
|move4=Double Team|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=285
|pokemon=Shroomish
|gender=female
|level=32
|type1=Grass
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Unknown
|move1=Headbutt|move1type=Normal
|move2=PoisonPowder|move2type=Poison
|move3=Leech Seed|move3type=Grass
|move4=Mega Drain|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=322
|pokemon=Numel
|gender=female
|level=32
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Unknown
|move1=Amnesia|move1type=Psychic
|move2=Magnitude|move2type=Ground
|move3=Focus Energy|move3type=Normal
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=259
|pokemon=Marshtomp
|gender=male
|level=34
|type1=Water|type2=Ground
|ability=Torrent
|held=Unknown
|move1=Mud Shot|move1type=Ground
|move2=Mud Sport|move2type=Ground
|move3=Foresight|move3type=Normal
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}2040
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Lilycove City
|pokemon=4
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=277
|pokemon=Swellow
|gender=female
|level=31
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying
|ability=Guts
|held=Unknown
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal
|move2=Wing Attack|move2type=Flying
|move3=Endeavor|move3type=Normal
|move4=Double Team|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=322
|pokemon=Numel
|gender=female
|level=32
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Unknown
|move1=Amnesia|move1type=Psychic
|move2=Magnitude|move2type=Ground
|move3=Focus Energy|move3type=Normal
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=320
|pokemon=Wailmer
|gender=male
|level=32
|type1=Water
|ability=Water Veil
|held=Unknown
|move1=Mist|move1type=Ice
|move2=Astonish|move2type=Ghost
|move3=Water Pulse|move3type=Water
|move4=Whirlpool|move4type=Water}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=253
|pokemon=Grovyle
|gender=male
|level=34
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|held=Unknown
|move1=Leaf Blade|move1type=Grass
|move2=Screech|move2type=Normal
|move3=Fury Cutter|move3type=Bug
|move4=Pursuit|move4type=Dark}}}}

====Quotes in Ruby and Sapphire====
{{incomplete|section}}
====Pokémon in Emerald====
=====First battle=====
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=E Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}300
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=E
|location=Hoenn Route 103
|locationname=Route 103
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=255
|pokemon=Torchic
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Scratch|move1type=Normal
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal}}
}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=E Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}300
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=E
|location=Hoenn Route 103
|locationname=Route 103
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=258
|pokemon=Mudkip
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal}}
}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=E Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}300
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=E
|location=Hoenn Route 103
|locationname=Route 103
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=252
|pokemon=Treecko
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Pound|move1type=Normal
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal}}
}}

=====Second battle (Optional)=====
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=E Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}900
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=E
|location=Rustboro City
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=270
|pokemon=Lotad
|gender=female
|level=13
|type1=Water|type2=Grass
|ability=Swift Swim
|held=Unknown
|move1=Nature Power|move1type=Normal
|move2=Absorb|move2type=Grass
|move3=Growl|move3type=Normal
|move4=Astonish|move4type=Ghost}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=278
|pokemon=Wingull
|gender=female
|level=13
|type1=Water|type2=Flying
|ability=Keen Eye
|held=Unknown
|move1=Growl|move1type=Normal
|move2=Water Gun|move2type=Water
|move3=Supersonic|move3type=Normal
|move4=Wing Attack|move4type=Flying}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=255
|pokemon=Torchic
|gender=male
|level=15
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|held=Unknown
|move1=Scratch|move1type=Normal
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal
|move3=Focus Energy|move3type=Normal
|move4=Ember|move4type=Fire}}
}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=E Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}900
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=E
|location=Rustboro City
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=270
|pokemon=Lotad
|gender=female
|level=13
|type1=Water|type2=Grass
|ability=Swift Swim
|held=Unknown
|move1=Nature Power|move1type=Normal
|move2=Absorb|move2type=Grass
|move3=Growl|move3type=Normal
|move4=Astonish|move4type=Ghost}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=218
|pokemon=Slugma
|gender=female
|level=13
|type1=Fire
|ability=Unknown
|held=Unknown
|move1=Ember|move1type=Fire
|move2=Smog|move2type=Poison
|move3=Curse|move3type=???
|move4=SmokeScreen|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=258
|pokemon=Mudkip
|gender=male
|level=15
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|held=Unknown
|move1=Bide|move1type=Normal
|move2=Mud-Slap|move2type=Ground
|move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water
|move4=Growl|move4type=Normal}}
}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=E Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}900
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=E
|location=Rustboro City
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=278
|pokemon=Wingull
|gender=female
|level=13
|type1=Water|type2=Flying
|ability=Keen Eye
|held=Unknown
|move1=Wing Attack|move1type=Flying
|move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal
|move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water
|move4=Growl|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=218
|pokemon=Slugma
|gender=female
|level=13
|type1=Fire
|ability=Unknown
|held=Unknown
|move1=Ember|move1type=Fire
|move2=Smog|move2type=Poison
|move3=Curse|move3type=???
|move4=SmokeScreen|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=252
|pokemon=Treecko
|gender=male
|level=15
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|held=Unknown
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal
|move2=Absorb|move2type=Grass
|move3=Leer|move3type=Normal
|move4=Pound|move4type=Normal}}
}}

=====Third battle=====
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}1350|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Hoenn Route 110 |
locationname=Route 110 |
pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=278|
pokemon=Wingull|
gender=female|
level=18|
ability=Keen Eye|
type1=Water|type2=Flying|
move1=Wing Attack|move1type=Flying|
move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal|
move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water|
move4=Growl|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=271|
pokemon=Lombre|
gender=female|
level=18|
ability=Swift Swim|
type1=Water|type2=Grass|
move1=Nature Power|move1type=Normal|
move2=Growl|move2type=Normal|
move3=Astonish|move3type=Ghost|
move4=Absorb|move4type=Grass}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=256|
pokemon=Combusken|
gender=male|
level=20|
ability=Blaze|
type1=Fire|type2=Fighting|
move1=Peck|move1type=Flying|
move2=Ember|move2type=Fire|
move3=Focus Energy|move3type=Normal|
move4=Double Kick|move4type=Fighting}}
}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}1350|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Hoenn Route 110 |
locationname=Route 110 |
pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=271|
pokemon=Lombre|
gender=female|
level=18|
ability=Swift Swim|
type1=Water|type2=Grass|
move1=Nature Power|move1type=Normal|
move2=Growl|move2type=Normal|
move3=Astonish|move3type=Ghost|
move4=Absorb|move4type=Grass}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=218|
pokemon=Slugma|
gender=male|
level=18|
ability=Flame Body|
type1=Fire|
move1=Yawn|move1type=Normal|
move2=Smog|move2type=Poison|
move3=Ember|move3type=Fire|
move4=Rock Throw|move4type=Rock}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=259|
pokemon=Marshtomp|
gender=male|
level=20|
ability=Torrent|
type1=Water|type2=Ground|
move1=Foresight|move1type=Normal|
move2=Water Gun|move2type=Water|
move3=Bide|move3type=Normal|
move4=Mud Shot|move4type=Ground}}
}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}1350|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Hoenn Route 110 |
locationname=Route 110 |
pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=278|
pokemon=Wingull|
gender=female|
level=18|
ability=Keen Eye|
type1=Water|type2=Flying|
move1=Water Gun|move1type=Water|
move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal|
move3=Wing Attack|move3type=Flying|
move4=Growl|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=218|
pokemon=Slugma|
gender=female|
level=18|
ability=Flame Body|
type1=Fire|
move1=Yawn|move1type=Normal|
move2=Smog|move2type=Poison|
move3=Ember|move3type=Fire|
move4=Rock Throw|move4type=Rock}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=253|
pokemon=Grovyle|
gender=male|
level=20|
ability=Overgrow|
type1=Grass|
move1=Pursuit|move1type=Dark|
move2=Fury Cutter|move2type=Bug|
move3=Quick Attack|move3type=Normal|
move4=Absorb|move4type=Grass}}
}}

=====Fourth battle=====
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}2400|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Hoenn Route 119 |
locationname=Route 119 |
pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=271|
pokemon=Lombre|
gender=male|
level=29|
ability=Swift Swim|
type1=Water|type2=Grass|
move1=Absorb|move1type=Grass|
move2=Nature Power|move2type=Normal|
move3=Fake Out|move3type=Normal|
move4=Fury Swipes|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=278|
pokemon=Wingull|
gender=male|
level=29|
ability=Keen Eye|
type1=Water|type2=Flying|
move1=Supersonic|move1type=Normal|
move2=Mist|move2type=Ice |
move3=Quick Attack|move3type=Normal|
move4=Wing Attack|move4type=Flying}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=256|
pokemon=Combusken|
gender=male|
level=31|
ability=Blaze|
type1=Fire|type2=Fighting|
move1=Sand-Attack|move1type=Ground|
move2=Peck |move2type=Flying|
move3=Bulk Up|move3type=Fighting|
move4=Double Kick|move4type=Fighting}}
}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}2400|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Hoenn Route 119 |
locationname=Route 119 |
pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=271|
pokemon=Lombre|
gender=male|
level=29|
ability=Swift Swim|
type1=Water|type2=Grass|
move1=Absorb|move1type=Grass|
move2=Nature Power|move2type=Normal|
move3=Fake Out|move3type=Normal|
move4=Fury Swipes|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=218|
pokemon=Slugma|
gender=male|
level=29|
ability=Flame Body|
type1=Fire|
move1=Ember|move1type=Fire|
move2=Rock Throw|move2type=Rock|
move3=Harden|move3type=Normal|
move4=Amnesia|move4type=Psychic}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=259|
pokemon=Marshtomp|
gender=male|
level=31|
ability=Torrent|
type1=Water|type2=Ground|
move1=Mud Shot|move1type=Ground|
move2=Foresight|move2type=Normal|
move3=Mud Sport|move3type=Ground|
move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}
}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}2400|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Hoenn Route 119 |
locationname=Route 119 |
pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=218|
pokemon=Slugma|
gender=male|
level=29|
ability=Flame Body|
type1=Fire|
move1=Ember|move1type=Fire|
move2=Rock Throw|move2type=Rock|
move3=Harden|move3type=Normal|
move4=Amnesia|move4type=Psychic}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=278|
pokemon=Wingull|
gender=male|
level=29|
ability=Keen Eye|
type1=Water|type2=Flying|
move1=Supersonic|move1type=Normal|
move2=Mist|move2type=Ice|
move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water|
move4=Wing Attack|move4type=Flying}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=253|
pokemon=Grovyle|
gender=male|
level=31|
ability=Overgrow|
type1=Grass|
move1=Leaf Blade|move1type=Grass|
move2=Screech|move2type=Normal|
move3=Pursuit|move3type=Dark|
move4=Fury Cutter|move4type=Bug}}
}}

=====Fifth Battle=====
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}2740|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Lilycove City |
pokemon=4|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=357|
pokemon=Tropius|
gender=female|
level=31|
ability=Chlorophyll|
type1=Grass|type2=Flying|
move1=Magical Leaf|move1type=Grass|
move2=Whirlwind|move2type=Normal|
move3=Sweet Scent|move3type=Normal|
move4=Stomp|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=272|
pokemon=Ludicolo|
gender=female|
level=32|
ability=Swift Swim|
type1=Water|type2=Grass|
move1=Nature Power|move1type=Normal|
move2=Fake Out|move2type=Normal|
move3=Fury Swipes|move3type=Normal|
move4=Water Sport|move4type=Water}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=279|
pokemon=Pelipper|
gender=female|
level=32|
ability=Keen Eye|
type1=Water|type2=Flying|
move1=Protect|move1type=Normal|
move2=Mist|move2type=Ice|
move3=Wing Attack|move3type=Flying|
move4=Supersonic|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=256|
pokemon=Combusken|
gender=male|
level=34|
ability=Blaze|
type1=Fire|type2=Fighting|
move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal|
move2=Bulk Up|move2type=Fighting|
move3=Sand-Attack|move3type=Ground|
move4=Peck|move4type=Flying}}
}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}2740|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Lilycove City |
pokemon=4|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=357|
pokemon=Tropius|
gender=male|
level=31|
ability=Chlorophyll|
type1=Grass|type2=Flying|
move1=Magical Leaf|move1type=Grass|
move2=Whirlwind|move2type=Normal|
move3=Sweet Scent|move3type=Normal|
move4=Stomp|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=272|
pokemon=Ludicolo|
gender=male|
level=32|
ability=Swift Swim|
type1=Water|type2=Grass|
move1=Nature Power|move1type=Normal|
move2=Fake Out|move2type=Normal|
move3=Fury Swipes|move3type=Normal|
move4=Water Sport|move4type=Water}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=218|
pokemon=Slugma|
gender=male|
level=32|
ability=Flame Body|
type1=Fire|
move1=Ember|move1type=Fire|
move2=Rock Throw|move2type=Rock|
move3=Harden|move3type=Normal|
move4=Amnesia|move4type=Psychic}}|
pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=259|
pokemon=Marshtomp|
gender=male|
level=34|
ability=Torrent|
type1=Water|type2=Ground|
move1=Mud Shot|move1type=Ground|
move2=Foresight|move2type=Normal|
move3=Mud Sport|move3type=Ground|
move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}
}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}2740|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Lilycove City |
pokemon=4|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=357|
pokemon=Tropius|
gender=female|
level=31|
ability=Chlorophyll|
type1=Grass|type2=Flying|
move1=Magical Leaf|move1type=Grass|
move2=Whirlwind|move2type=Normal|
move3=Sweet Scent|move3type=Normal|
move4=Stomp|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=279|
pokemon=Pelipper|
gender=female|
level=32|
ability=Keen Eye|
type1=Water|type2=Flying|
move1=Protect|move1type=Normal|
move2=Mist|move2type=Ice|
move3=Wing Attack|move3type=Flying|
move4=Supersonic|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=218|
pokemon=Slugma|
gender=female|
level=32|
ability=Flame Body|
type1=Fire|
move1=Ember|move1type=Fire|
move2=Rock Throw|move2type=Rock|
move3=Harden|move3type=Normal|
move4=Amnesia|move4type=Psychic}}|
pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=253|
pokemon=Grovyle|
gender=male|
level=34|
ability=Overgrow|
type1=Grass|
move1=Fury Cutter|move1type=Bug|
move2=Pursuit|move2type=Dark|
move3=Screech|move3type=Normal|
move4=Leaf Blade|move4type=Grass}}
}}

====Quotes in Emerald====
{{incomplete|section}}
=====Littleroot Town (1st Visit)=====
''"! Hey! You... Who are you? Oh, you're [[Player character|<player>]], aren't you? Moved in next door, right? I didn't know you're a girl. Dad, [[Professor Birch|PROF. BIRCH]], said our new next-door neighbor is a [[Gym Leader|GYM LEADER]]'s kid, so I assumed you'd be a guy. My name's BRENDAN. So, hi, neighbor! Huh? Hey, <player>, don't you have a POKéMON? Do you want me to go catch you one? Aw, darn, I forgot... I'm supposed to go help my dad catch some wild POKéMON. Some other time, okay?"''

=====Match Call=====
'''Strategy''' -
Battle with knowledge!

'''Trainer's Pokémon''' -
I will use various Pokémon.

'''Self-Introduction''' -
I'll be a better Pokémon prof than my father is!

==Artwork==
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Ruby Sapphire Brendan.png|100px]]
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Brendan Ribbon.png|200px]]
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Rayquaza Encounter.png|130px]]
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Battle Tower art.png|200px]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Official artwork from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby and Sapphire}}
| Giving a {{color2|000000|Ribbon}} to {{color2|000000|Torchic}}.
| Encountering {{color2|000000|Rayquaza}}.
| In the {{color2|000000|Battle Tower}}.
|}

===Sprites===
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:RS Brendan.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:RS Brendan Back.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:E Brendan.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:E Brendan Back.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Colo Brendan.png|60px]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:XD Brendan RS.png|80px]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:XD Brendan Em.png|80px]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Brendan's sprite from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby and Sapphire}}
| Brendan's back sprite from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby and Sapphire}}
| Brendan's sprite from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
| Brendan's back sprite from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
| Image of Brendan from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Colosseum|Colosseum}}
| A headshot of Brendan from {{color2|000000|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|Pokémon XD}} (RS variant)
| A headshot of Brendan from {{color2|000000|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|Pokémon XD}} (E variant)
|}
{{-}}

==Counterparts==
===In the anime===
[[Image:Brendan_Swampert.png|thumb|220px|Brendan's anime appearance]]
Brendan's only anime appearances are small cameos in the movies, appearing in the openings of ''[[M06|Jirachi: Wish Maker]]'', ''[[M09|Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]]'' and ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''. Brendan seems to be a competitive battler, as his cameos suggest he spends time in Battle Towers. In all of his appearances, he has appeared with his Ruby and Sapphire outfit.

Like in the games, he has the [[starter Pokémon]] that weakens {{an|May}}'s. It is unknown if his relatives are the same as that of the games, where, as May is [[Norman]]'s daughter (as the player is), Brendan would be [[Professor Birch]]'s son.

====Pokémon====
The following are Brendan's known Pokémon in the anime:

{{TrainerPoké
|main=no
|trainer=Brendan
|pkmn=Swampert
|type1=Water
|type2=Ground
|img=Brendan_Swampert.png
|epnum=M09
|epname=Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea
|vajp=
|vaen=
|desc={{p|Swampert}} is most likely Brendan's starter Pokémon. Not much is known about it, however, as it has only been seen briefly at the beginning of [[M09|the ninth movie]], where it was seen confronting {{mo|Rebecca}}'s {{p|Tyranitar}} in the [[Battle Tower]].

Swampert's only known move is {{m|Ice Beam}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|main=no
|trainer=Brendan
|pkmn=Aggron
|type1=Steel
|type2=Rock
|img=Brendan Aggron Shiftry.png
|epnum=M06
|epname=Jirachi: Wish Maker
|vajp=
|vaen=
|desc=Brendan's {{p|Aggron}} was only briefly seen in a [[double battle]] at the beginning of [[M06|the sixth movie]] alongside Shiftry, against a {{p|Solrock}} and {{p|Manectric}}. Aggron was freezing the opponent's Solrock while Shiftry was being hit by the Manectric's {{m|Spark}}. Notably, Aggron is kept within a {{DL|Poké Ball|Luxury Ball}}, a type of [[Poké Ball]] rarely seen in the anime.

Aggron's only known move is {{m|Ice Beam}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Brendan
|pkmn=Shiftry
|type1=Grass
|type2=Dark
|img=Brendan Shiftry.png
|epnum=M06
|epname=Jirachi: Wish Maker
|desc=Brendan's {{p|Shiftry}} was only briefly seen in a [[double battle]] at the beginning of [[M06|the sixth movie]] alongside Aggron, against a {{p|Solrock}} and {{p|Manectric}}. Aggron was freezing the opponent's Solrock while Shiftry was being hit by the Manectric's {{m|Spark}}. Notably, Shiftry is kept within a {{DL|Poké Ball|Repeat Ball}}, a type of [[Poké Ball]] rarely seen in the anime.

Shiftry's only known move is {{m|Bullet Seed}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|main=no
|trainer=Brendan
|pkmn=Rhyperior
|type1=Ground
|type2=Rock
|img=Brendan_Rhyperior.png
|epnum=M11
|epname=Giratina and the Sky Warrior
|vajp=
|vaen=
|desc=Brendan's {{p|Rhyperior}} has only made a brief appearance at the beginning of [[M11|the eleventh movie]], where it was seen battling against {{ga|Lucas}}'s {{p|Magmortar}}.

Rhyperior's only known move is {{m|Hammer Arm}}.}}

===In the manga===
There are three different manga counterparts to Brendan: {{adv|Ruby}} from the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga, {{OBP|Ruby|Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire}} from the [[Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire]] manga, and [[Rald]] from the [[Pokémon Battle Frontier]] manga.

===In the TFG===
{{TFG ID|Next Quest|Brendan|41}}, based on a blue recolor of this character's usual clothes, appears as a common Trainer figure in {{TFG|Next Quest}}, the launch set of the [[Pokémon Trading Figure Game]]. There is also an unreleased figurine based on him from the cancelled {{TFG|Groundbreakers}} expansion, named {{TFG ID|Groundbreakers|Landon|41}} (one of the default names for him in Pokémon Ruby and Emerald), who wears the same outfit as Brendan does in Ruby and Sapphire.

==Trivia==
*In [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]], {{p|Pikachu}} wears Brendan's Emerald headband as an alternate costume. Also, the [[Red (game)#In the Super Smash Bros. series|Pokémon Trainer]] has an alternate costume with a similar color scheme as Brendan's Emerald outfit.
*He and {{ga|May}} are the only set of player characters who have a chance to speak with both a mother and a father in the games.

{| align="left" style="background: #{{ruby color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 3px solid #{{ruby color}}"
! Language !! Name !! Origin
|- style="background: #FFF"
|Japanese
| ユウキ ''Yūki''
| From 勇気 ''yūki'', bravery.
|- style="background: #FFF"
|English
| Brendan
| Could be derived from "brave."
|- style="background: #FFF"
|French
| Brice
| Similar to the English name.
|- style="background: #FFF"
|German
| Brix
| Similar to the English name.
|- style="background: #FFF"
|Italian
| Brendon
| Similar to the English name.
|- style="background: #FFF"
|Spanish
| Bruno
| Similar to the English name.

|- style="background: #FFF"
|Chinese (Taiwan)
| 祐樹 ''Yòushù''
| From 祐樹 ''yūki''.
|}{{-}}
{| align="center"
| valign="top" |{{Player characters}}
|-
| valign="top" |{{Rival characters}}
|}
 
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}
[[Category:Rival characters]]
[[Category:Ruby and Sapphire characters]]
[[Category:Emerald characters]]
[[Category:Male characters]]

[[de:Brix (Spielcharakter)]]
[[es:Bruno (personaje)]]
[[fr:Brice]]
[[ja:ユウキ (ゲーム)]]

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2011-06-28T02:14:46Z

Ikarishipper900:

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== (Trainer class) ==

So should we move ''Team Rocket Grunt'' to ''Team Rocket Grunt '''(Trainer class)''''' along with ''Team Plasma Grunt''? Also should we move ''Magma/Aqua Grunt (Trainer class)'' to '''''Team''' Magma/Aqua Grunt (Trainer class)''? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Landfish7}} ([[User talk:Landfish7|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Landfish7|contribs]]) ''
:Unless there's some reason they weren't moved the first time... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:39, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

== Wi-fi ==

Hey Trom (I'm dropping my formal tone), where do you live in NZ, exactly? If you want, I might be able to find a free wi-fi hotspot for you. Just trying to be helpful! ;} - [[User:Twisted Ivy|Twisted Ivy]] 14:50, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== Help ==

Sorry I keep disturbing you :( You know my entries for the Christmas Improvement Drive? You know, the [[Pokémon Musical]] and [[Team Charm]]? Well, it still says there are missing sections in it. Would you give me some tips for filling those in with? I mean, I know the CID is over, but I'd still like to improve them. [[User:Twisted Ivy|Twisted Ivy]] 15:47, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
:It says there are missing sections because they need to be manually removed. I'm not familiar with either the Musicals or any side games so I don't know exactly what's required. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:39, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

==Nintendo 3DS==
Hi, I'm not sure where to type but its regarding the "Nintendo branding the 3DS as dangerous" article. The Nintendo 3DS has been stated several times not to be part of the Nintendo DS line, it's a brand new handheld console borrowing the dual screen touch from its predecessor, which is all. Inside its a whole new machine, graphics - the lot basically. Just thought I'd let you know that :) --[[User:Craigybabyxo|Craigybabyxo]] 08:55, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

== Re:IAPL ==

Hello, I'm one of the guys in charge of the IAPL wiki (known as Anonymousse); and I have to say; I'm terribly sorry over the copyright deal. To be honest, I dislike using other's work and usually try to make my own. And I know I might sound like trying to put the shame on another; but I feel the need to say this. We used to have another webhost in 000webhost.com, and we had a wiki set up in there as well; [http://wiki.iapl.co.cc/index.php?title=Template:Party&oldid=881 This] edit over here was made by a user named Ketsuban (we are still unsure about whether he used to be part of this community or not). I'm not sure if you've heard of him. Anyways, when he brought up the Party template, I started asking him about bringing that template in, but he said he asked and he got a 'yes'. So I went on and edited it. Regarding the RegionInfobox template, it's heavily based upon Bulbapedia's; but I can say it's a work entirely made by me. With that said, I must say that the Party template is only a placeholder, since I still was uneasy about using it; once I can learn about wiki markup better, I'll replace it with my own work (lots of people can prove that). But in the meantime, we'll put attribution to your work, how do you want it? Tell me and we'll change what's needed. Once again, I'm sorry over that. Mind if I ask something? How did you come across to the Project site? I look forward to your response. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]] [[User_talk:Masatoshi|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Masatoshi|contribs]] 03:34, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

tl;dr by bigplrbear (2nd admin): Sorry about using your stuff; we were under the impression (thanks to a user named Ketsuban, whom we were under the impression that he came from Bulbapedia) that we could use the templates freely. We'll start replacing your templates with our own, but in the meantime, would it be okay if we gave credit to those who made it? If so, how would you like the credit to be displayed? Also, how'd you find out about our project, if you don't mind us asking?

If you have any further concerns and you want to reach us directly, you're more than welcome to get on the IRC at [irc://irc.rizon.net#iapl irc.rizon.net #iapl] and send Anonymousse or I a PM. :)
[[User:Bigplrbear|Bigplrbear]] 03:47, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

:Thanks, guys. Just provide some documentation saying that the templates are taken from Bulbapedia and will be replaced as soon as possible. I think the Ketsuban user you refer to may be [[User:Missingno000]]; he recently filed a request to change his username here to Ketsuban. A friend and colleague of mine saw you guys on /vp/ and noticed you'd copied a few templates; as I'm the go-to copyrights guy around here, she asked me to say something to you. Again, thanks for your cooperation. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:45, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
::There's absolutely no way we can know about that. All I can say is that the guy used proper grammar and was a power-hungry guy; he was in charge of one of the Leagues; until he was removed because of his vandalic actions and some stuff in the game script. And regarding the templates, I know that the Party template will have that; as well as with the color2 one; but there's a thing I'm not sure about. The roundy template, since it uses CSS attributes that are global; should we rename the template or what? And what about the Hex colours? I'm not sure about that, since they are present in the games. And, are you okay with the style we're using? Since Bulbapedia's work is actually something inspiring to work on, and plus, I kinda hate square corners. I think I know who told you about the project :P. Anyways, thank you for being comprehensive; I'd hate being hated by Bulbagarden/pedia. I'll get to work on a Documentation, can I use Bulbapedia's logo for that, by the way? [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]] [[User_talk:Masatoshi|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Masatoshi|contribs]] 07:15, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:::We could confirm by checking IP addresses, I guess, but it isn't a big deal and shouldn't be handled in public. The roundy template, or versions thereof, is being used on many wikis. Although I think our incarnation was coded up by Bulbagarden staff, we can't really hold claim to rounded corners (despite what TTE may think). The hex colors were taken out of the game by Bulbapedia users, but I don't think we can justifiably hold claim to them either. I'll leave the rest to your judgment: if you've taken it directly from BP, then add attribution. If it's original work, it's original work. You are welcome to use Bulbapedia's logo in a link-back documentation message. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:31, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Possibly; gotta check Ketsuban's IP in the forum. The documentation has been made into a template (BulbaDoc), and it's put into the Party template and the Pokémon/5 (transcluded to only Pokémon); not sure if that's okay. And, as soon as I get to figure out how to use some parser functions correctly, I'll start to make the Party template for us. ''*sigh*'' I'm still sorry over this stuff. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]] [[User_talk:Masatoshi|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Masatoshi|contribs]] 10:32, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::You're doing well. Thanks again, and good luck with your project. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:53, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:''indentation reset'' Alright, then. Good to know. I should be thanking you for this, actually. And thanks, we're going to need as much luck as we can. ''*looks worried at Nintendo*'' [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]] [[User_talk:Masatoshi|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Masatoshi|contribs]] 11:03, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for hearing us out. Like anonymousse said, we'll get on documenting anything used from Bulbapedia, and we'll give credit where credit's due. Anon's just a bit scared of copyright stuff (I, for one am not, since (thankfully) Nintendo has a well documented history for not caring, unless you make money and/or use their ROMs/Code), so this whole deal freaked him out a bit. As I said before, if you have any more concerns and you wish to contact us directly, feel free to PM us in the IRC or Forums. [[User:Bigplrbear|Bigplrbear]] 03:15, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

== Blocking second account ==

Hey. I had a problem logging in with my first account ([[user:Weedefinition]]), which you tried to help me with back in October. Well I kept trying to get a new password since but It's obviously not gonna happen. So now would be a good time to block the Weedefinition account, since I can't use it anyway and I can't have two accounts. Thanks for all your help and apologies for all the hassle. [[User:WellyDawn|WellyDawn]] 15:10, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
:Not a problem at all. Have a nice day. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:30, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

== trooooooooooooooom ==

I don't know what your policy is on usernames but [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:RivalDICKS this] dude has DICKS in his username. I saw it AFTER creating his talk page so...sorry 'bout that ;_; --[[User:.insomniac.|«ιɴsσ]]м[[User_talk:.insomniac.|ɴιαc»]] 15:53, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
:[[Bulbapedia:Username_policy|Here's the Bulbapedia Username Policy]] for future's reference, Insomniac. ^^ And indeed you're not allowed to have obscenities in your username. But an admin should take care of it soon enough. Thanks for your help [[Typhlosion|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon|★]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]] 15:55, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
::OK awesome. Thanks for the link, I'll make sure to read it :). --[[User:.insomniac.|«ιɴsσ]]м[[User_talk:.insomniac.|ɴιαc»]] 15:57, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
:::[[User:Jello|Jello]] took care of it. :) [[Typhlosion|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon|★]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]] 17:22, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

== User deletion request. ==

Hello. I'm leaving this comment on your talkpage because you were the last person to leave a comment on mine. If you are not responsible for what I am about to talk about, please ignore this and send my note to the correct person.

After two hilarious discussions about me doing to many edits in my namespace (BTW, when I want to talk with a robot, I visit Cleverbot), I realized that I am unable to edit my own pages. I truly appreciate your imagination and creativity in modifying terms like "democracy" and "my own possession". Hey, at last we're on wiki, where anyone can change anything! (insert laugh) Back to the point. You see, after that I found out that I cannot simply remove my account and I have to beg someone to do it. So here I am. Please, please, destroy my user account and all pages that has violated this precious, given by Arceus himslef "3 times per day" law. Destroy all my edits that were - what I thought - a mere and humble addition to the Bulbapedia, but - in fact - were "horrible, horrible crimes". I understand what have I done and decided to leave this place and never contribute to any online community ever (just in case they have developed as stupid laws as the ones here). I hope my dose of irony wasn't too big for your servers. And if it was - I will laugh even more. Yes. Sincerely, [[User:Piotr mil|Piotr mil]] 15:37, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
:Don't be so pretentious. I'm not deleting your pages. That's not how I roll.
:Bulbapedia has rules for a reason. We discourage over-editing of userspace pages because we are, first and foremost, an encyclopedia. Your edits looked like they might have eventually benefited the wiki; however, you still have to stick to the rules. If you're making helpful userspace edits, we get more lenient with the limits, but you aren't immune. If you make a few mainspace edits for every userspace edit, you'll be sweet. If you choose to disregard this message and leave the wiki, that's fine too. Just don't be an ass about everything. I learned the hard way when I joined Bulbapedia - if you act like a dick, you'll get treated like one. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:51, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

== R/S/E Remakes ==

Is it possible for someone to make a tab saying "This user supports R/S/E remakes"?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 02:50, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
: If you play around with some of the templates you can modify one to make it say that. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 03:14, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
::Feel free to make one in your userspace by editing an existing template. The old GSDS template might be around - you could modify that if you can find it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:51, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

== Help me plz ==

Can you unlock my page on bulbanews? I will copy it and remove it all.It seem waste memory in bulbanews.[[User:Meearaimeng|Meearaimeng]] 03:12, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:I have replied there as I saw that message first. Let me know when you have copied your content. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:51, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

== Hey foo ==

When you're not being hot and dangerous, can you be like one of us and get on AIM please. Like ASAP, but not like an urgent ASAP or anything. Thanks --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:50, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:You're such a hipster. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:59, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
::You're such a plastic bag. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 07:06, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Can I pretend that airplanes in the night sky are like shooting stars? I could really use a Trom right now, Trom right now, Trom right now. Or whenever you're ki-kinda not busay and out in the club sippin' that bub. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 06:47, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Hello? Hello? Baby, you called? I can't hear a thing. I have got no internet in my house, you see, you see. Wha, wha, what did you say, huh, you're breaking up on me. Send me an email - I'm kinda busy. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:38, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::I wake up every evening, with a big smile on my face and it never feels out of place, and you're still probably working, at a 9 to 5 pace, I wonder how bad that tastes, when you see my email/PM, I hope it gives you hell, hope it gives you hell. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 16:58, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::I was totally going to use a song, but it's pretty graphic and has totally awesome, yet very PG-13 lyrics, so I decided against scaring the youth. When you get on AIM sometime in the future, all natural like and without rush, I got a {{tt|spoiler|lolol I bet you thought there was something important in here. Wrong. But seriously, I still need you later.}} for you. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 00:29, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::Tromieeee, when you get a chance in the near future, can you get on AIM soon, pretty please~, also I couldn't think of a good song to spam you with today /cries forever --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:21, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

== new project? ==
Hey, Trom, I had an idea for a project - Project Technology. Some ideas of Pokémon are really high-tech, so I think it deserves a project to itself. I was inpired by [[Jamero]] - tell me if you think it's good! [[User:Twisted Ivy|Twisted Ivy]] 20:26, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
:I'm not entirely sure how much scope this project would have... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:38, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

== Delete ==

Can u delete this for me?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 07:09, 30 January 2011 (UTC) [[File:So out of your league.jpg|210px|thumb|left|I can see how this will play out]]

== E-mail ==

Yeah, sorry about that. I kept forgetting to switch it on. It should be up now. --[[User:RiverAura|River]][[User_Talk:RiverAura|Aura]] 02:40, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

==Spammer==

hey can you please have a chat with {{u|Pokemonmaster2954}}? She's been inserting advertising and gibberish into pages. Thanks! [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 21:59, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

== Requesting a username change ==

Basically I was really absent-mindedly creating my account the other day after a year or so of lurking, and I accidentally mixed up my intended entries for the Username and Real name fields. I'm rambling, I suppose, so long story short, I was wondering if I could get my username changed to Zond. I would really appreciate it.[[User:GarthHalvorsen|GarthHalvorsen]] 00:55, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
:Hi Garth/Zond. Unfortunately, the tool we use to rename users is currently broken - we're looking into a fix. As you have only made a few edits thus far, you may wish to create a new account with the new username, provided it isn't taken. I will then close off (block) your misnamed account. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:54, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
::Alright, I'll do that. Thanks.[[User:GarthHalvorsen|GarthHalvorsen]] 06:12, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
:::Made the new account, thought I'd let you know.[[User:Zond|Zond]] 06:15, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
::::Thank you. Enjoy your time here. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:58, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

== Minor Copyright Issue ==

[[Talk:AG117#Copying and copyright|Here]]. --[[User:Rigas|Rigas]] 12:10, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

: Thanks. --[[User:Rigas|Rigas]] 18:25, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

== Two Things ==

Hey Trom! First question I have for you is do we have a page detailing out the commonalities in each Region, such as that every game has the Fire, Grass, and Water Starters, a common bird Pokemon, and such? I think it would just be an interesting thing to compare up as we are getting more and more commonalities. While I'm at it I was wondering if you would [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:RexRacer#B.26W_Mall_Tour|take a look at this] when you have a moment, as it looks like Rex is busy. Thanks!! —'''[[User:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User talk:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 23:00, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
:No, we currently do not have a page like that. I will reply about the mall tour on Rex's page, so as to keep the thread in one place. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:25, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
::There is a TLDR section about your commonalities article on Rex's talk page. BTW. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:58, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:::Thanks for the heads up on that. I saw, and he does indeed disapprove. I think that I am going to try Userspacing it first and if we find any use for it we can Mainspace it (which I know is unlikely but we will have the resource if needed). I will also PM you on the forums in the next day or two about the details of that Tour. Thanks again Trom! —'''[[User:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User talk:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 08:40, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

== Portalizing ==

I'm fine with shrinking the list of portals we have, but for my happiness, can we keep the few we're working on? If we do shrink it to your list, can you update the Portal Portal template accordingly? -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 05:30, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

== Much Appreciated ==

Thank you for ending that conversation, trom. It sure took up a lot of my time. At least my writing skills got a good workout. Till next time, get Pokémon★ --[[User:ShalashaskaADV|Shalashaska]][[User talk:ShalashaskaADV|ADV]] 06:34, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

== Need something checked ==
Even though Ankle Sweep's English Name was revealed as Low Sweep, the Japanese name was posted as Low Kick. Could you look into this confusing mystery? -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 22:48, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
:From what I recall, the Japanese name of this move can be translated as both Low Kick and Ankle Sweep. Bulbapedia chose the second translation as we already have one English move with the name Low Kick. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:51, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
::Thanks, I only asked because it looked confusing when I saw that page and wanted to help deal with the mystery so it would be less confusing, but it might make a good trivia piece just to make it more understandable. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 22:53, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

== Jello said to ask you ==
About a Bulbanews colum I want to write, it will be an oppinionative one, how do I get a space for my {{tt|colum|well I haven't wrote it yet}}? [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 20:25, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
:Hi. Please send a PM through the forums to both me and RexRacer outlining what you want to write about - not just the general subject but also ideas for specific columns - and your planned update schedule. We would ideally want a sample of your writing (three or four columns) to see if you meet Bulbanews quality standards, but as you haven't written anything yet we'll just take the outline for now. Thanks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:23, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

== Query ==
As you seem to be in the know, just wondering what the rules were about deleting talk pages of articles? I guess that they would be to delete them as much as possible to save space? At least that is what I assume from what I am seeing? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 08:37, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
:Depends what's on them. Redirects, yes; stupid questions, yes. The file talk page you edited earlier? That should go as Bulbapedia administrators are instructed not to let anything exist in the file talk namespace. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:45, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
::How about information requested to be changed on a locked page? Not a file page. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 08:47, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
:::There appears to have been some error, human or otherwise. I will investigate when I return from my break. (See user page.) —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:31, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
::::Should I link you? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 11:49, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

== Proposed new template for favorite music genres ==

Hello, I would like to propose an improved version of the favorite music genre template to include genre-determined colors. I have put my proposal here:
[[User:Andros 1337/Proposed new favorite music template]] [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 01:34, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
:Forwarded to someone else in my absence. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:32, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

== Minor task for you ==

Regarding the [[Bulbapedia:FAQ|FAQs]], there is a spelling error in the ''Is Gaming allowed in the Userspace'' Section. Bulbapedia seem to be missing an ''i''. I chose to bring you this cause you're the most recent admin thing to contribute. According to the recent changes.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Reshiram (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Zekrom (Pokémon)|ire]] 09:29, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
:Resolved. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:32, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
::Another--What Are Link Templates needs a question mark, e. g., What Are Link Templates? Thank you! [[User:Focus58|Focus]][[User talk:Focus58|58]] 11:18, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

== Question about my name ==

I'm quite new and I'm not sure if I may ask it here but..
After reading the [[Bulbapedia:Username_policy|username policy]], do you think [[User_talk:Shadess|my name]] is [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Black_Glasses#BlackGlasses Misleading?] some people refer the black glasses as Shades.
If so, how can I change my name?
[[User:Shadess|Shadess]] 10:11, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
:Hi Shadess; welcome to Bulbapedia. You're most welcome to ask any questions you have here :) Rest assured, your username is just fine. That policy is in place to prevent, say, someone signing up with the username "User:The Dark Lord Trombonator" (note the difference in capitalisation) or "User:Satoshi Tajiri" (the name of a real-life person). You have nothing to worry about. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:14, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

== Saving on server space... ==

Hello, dark lord trombonator. I'm a pretty new user here, and as always I've been concerned about the stress on Bulbapedia's server space. May I know if clearing userspace pages (such as my own talk page) periodically will relieve server stress, and if it will help a lot? Thanks! Cheers, [[User:Haxorus|Haxorus]] 13:21, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
:You're free to clear your userpage, but user talk pages fall under the same rules as any other talk page: Deleting comments is prohibited except under extenuating circumstances (such as vandalism). So no clearing your talk page. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 14:53, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
::Wait, so deleting comments on talk pages that don't break the rules is against the rules? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 15:50, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
:::You got it. We like to keep those there as a record of what discussions have contributed to the current state of the article/user. If talk pages get too long, we archive them in a subpage. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 16:22, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
::::HOWEVER, spam and useless comments ARE allowed to be removed without notice. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 16:40, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
:::::Hmm, Jel I'm not so sure, I am looking at the rule here and spam can be removed yes, but it isn't saying the same for what you deem 'useless'
:::::Could you link me to where you see otherwise? I must be looking at the wrong place. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 17:16, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
::::::[[Bulbapedia:Talk page policy#How should a talk page not be used?|There you go. Spam and other useless comments]]. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 17:25, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
:::::::Ah was looking at the wrong part of the page apparently, thanks for the direct link. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 17:32, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
::::::::That's great but I have a small request for you: Please stop trying to provoke me, and please stop pretending to be generally interested in the rules just to find some loophole you can exploit to insult me. Your new signature isn't helping the problem either. Have a nice day. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 17:47, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::Hm... definitely not trying to "provoke" you, especially since the reason why I asked had nothing to do with you, you only came into the event later on... sorry if I hurt your ego by saying that but you weren't the one who deleted the talk page entry so please lay off the subject as it is over and done with. As for my new signature it is just a friendly warning because that week long ban really was an annoyance as my email inbox filled up with edit updates and was quite bothersome. So yea, please stop bothering me. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 19:58, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::I was only clarifying a misunderstanding you seem to not be able to let go, because it was clear what you were trying to imply. I requested in my edit summary that you not reply to this comment either, but I knew you weren't going to listen. But yeah, if you weren't so biased in your hatred against staff, you wouldn't have left that comment after mines, and of course your signature wouldn't say what it says right now (which is anything BUT friendly). Like it or not, it is a personal attack against any one that is staff. I will stop "bothering" you though, and let Trom take care of this. Again, have a nice day. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 20:18, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::::First of all, I asked you to please stop, this has nothing to do with you and only you are making it have something to do with you, you are cluttering up someone's talk page with your claims that my inquiry had anything to do with you. My apologies again to your ego. Second of all, if paraphrasing a member of staff is a "personal attack" then I apologize, but it is true, and if you have a problem with my signature please take it up on ''my'' page and not the page of someone else to clutter up their page. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 20:31, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
All of you, get a life. If you can't handle the talkspace, go [[:Category:Stubs|fix up a stub]]. Jel and fel, try and avoid each other for a bit. And fel, get rid of that signature. I'm all for self-expression, but it's rude and counterproductive. Signatures ought not to be defamatory to other members, staff included. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:13, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
:I'm sorry but I did nothing, I was only asking a question and Jel assumed it was about her? I begged her repeatedly to please stop posting and I somehow get yelled at?
:My signature is entirely truthful, saying it is defamatory implies it is untrue? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 03:09, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
::For real, follow Trom's advice and don't interact with Jello. Including the above comment. Sometimes, you just have to let things go whether you like it or not. And in this case Trom is giving you a pretty long leash by giving you a warning. Arguing over the truthfulness (or not-truthfulness) of your sig is rehashing the issue Trom told you (and Jel) to drop. So, drop it. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 03:36, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
:::Jel attacked me, then later she commented on my signature so my signature has nothing to do with that. As for whether or not someone stated what my signature says was stated is true, and then as for people getting banned for just trying to help out that is also true based on previous happenings. So I don't see the problem here? Especially since the only person who did not drop the issue was Jel even though I '''begged''' her to drop it multiple times and I somehow am the only one getting yelled at? [[User:Felinoel|Admins say '''F'''hey don't do th'''E'''ir job but don't try to he'''L'''p or you will get banned.]] 03:59, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
::::Wait I just realized... I have admin plural, is that the issue? I only did that to keep the signature within the rules of character limit, that is also why I put fel in there in green, kinda confusing but it follows the rules I guess. If the plural 'admin' is the issue I am sure I can find a way to reword it? [[User:Felinoel|Admins say '''F'''hey don't do th'''E'''ir job but don't try to he'''L'''p or you will get banned.]] 04:02, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

== Userspace issue ==

Greetings, in 2009 I created my userspace and I was able to edit it normally, but in 2010 I decided to remove info from it but I was unable to, I see "view code" instead of "edit this page"... I did read the help desk several times and checked settings from 2010 until now, no success, I don't see anything about protection or block.. As I can't find the reason, I'm finally contacting a staff member as the help desk says recommends. Please tell me if I'm mistaken. I need to edit my userspace..if it's not possible anymore, you can remove the page then. Waiting for a quick reply. --[[User:Caique|Caique]] 00:39, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
:The time you lost the ability to edit your userspace was the time that settings were changed to remind users that userspace editing is a privelidge, not a right. As a result, you now need to make a number of edits to the mainspace (i.e. actual articles) before you can edit your userpage again. Even once you can edit it again, remember that [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&tagfilter=&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Caique&namespace=0&tagfilter=&year=&month=-1 this list] should always be significantly longer than [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&tagfilter=&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Caique&namespace=2&tagfilter=&year=&month=-1 this list]. If it becomes the other way around, or you make too many userspace edits in a short time, you may find you lose the ability again. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:56, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
::Is that so, arigathanks! I didn't suspect that at all. Now I gotta find articles I can give a hand with... --[[User:Caique|Caique]] 03:07, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

== ゥ ( Z4 back to Z4? ==

You wrote in the history "Sorry, it's at this name for technical reasons" and those are? If you're reffering to the ゥ, its in the name of multiple glitch pokemon and one even has that as its whole name ([[ゥ]]) {{unsigned|rsrdaman}}
:Hrm. I'm now questioning whether we should move it back, or move the other one. I'll talk to MAGNEDETH and SnorlaxMonster about this. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:46, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

== Hey Trom ==

I see what you did there. |D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:25, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

== Typo redirects ==

I get the impression from your user page you might be a good person to ask about this, I was wondering about creating redirects for name-mispellings and started a section at [[Bulbapedia_talk:Policy]]. [[User:Thelonesoldier|Thelonesoldier]] 09:38, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
:Someone read my userpage? Awesome! I'm practically famous now. I'll go check out your discussion, thanks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:22, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
::I actually burst out laughing at that. And thanks. [[User:Thelonesoldier|Thelonesoldier]] 11:52, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

==PokéFanon wiki Creative Commons==
Hi, this is [http://pokemonfanon.wikia.com/wiki/User:Universalguardian1003 Universalguardian1003], 1/3 of the bureaucrat team there and head of templates. What are your concerns? I'm sorry for sounding so commanding, I'm just a little more official when my wiki is involved. -[[User:DialgaMaster105| I'm a Girl. People Don't get that.... ]][[User talk:DialgaMaster105| Speak To The Master...DialgaMaster! ]] 22:04, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
:I outlined my concerns on the other user's talk page. Bulbapedia templates cannot be used on commercial websites like Wikia due to the different licenses. You've got a whole category full of stuff you nabbed from here (and more stuff that isn't in the category) and it all needs to be changed so it's ''your'' original content, not ours. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:25, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Hm. Me and ATTH will try. He made most of the templates that look like yours, but I thought he disclaimed and changed them. I'll delete any templates not made by him that don't have a disclaim, since those are all unofficial. -[[User:DialgaMaster105| I'm a Girl. People Don't get that.... ]][[User talk:DialgaMaster105| Speak To The Master...DialgaMaster! ]] 21:45, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

== Userspace / Talk Page ==

I am aware that you currently can only edit userspaces once a day, which I have already done today for the first time. I notice, though, that your talk page is also customized. Do edits to both stack or are they counted separate from each other's edits? [[User:EvilKirikizan|EvilKirikizan]] 21:10, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
:User talk personalization edits are loosely included in the userspace limit. It's not written down as a formal "no" but the general aim of the policy is to discourage non-productive edits so it would be best if you took user talk personalization as an extension of the usual userspace. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:35, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
::Got it. And, also, i am guessing that extensive customization (like usertags) aren't appreciated there? Thanks from [[User:EvilKirikizan|EvilKirikizan]] 01:25, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
:::Usertags don't work in the talkspace. And attempting to use your talk page to get around the userspace restrictions is not allowed and may result in loss of userspace privileges. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:55, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

== Userpage question ==
Yes, i know a bunch of my questions are on userpages and yes i know this is my second time in arow asking you something. Anyway, i had a funny idea for a section for my userpage - where i take current events from Bulbanews and revamp them in a sort of comedic parody. Since Bulbanews is officialy part of this site, i decided that I'd ask an admin for permission. Please reply. [[User:EvilKirikizan|EvilKirikizan]] 21:20, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
:That's fine. Just keep withing the userspace limit of one edit per day. You may also find this better suited to the blog system on the Bulbagarden forums. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:32, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
::hm. I'm most likely not going to start a blog soon, but i'll do it on my userpage. Thnx from an excited [[User:EvilKirikizan|EvilKirikizan]] 23:05, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
::: I just looked at bulbanews. Things like the passing away of Ms. Kawakami will NOT be made fun of. [[User:EvilKirikizan|EvilKirikizan]] 23:08, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

== Sounds ==

You're one of the more approachable admins, for me at least, so could you answer this for me: Would it be possible for the wiki to adapt adding sound files for music samples and such. For example, in the promotions article, we could provide the sample provided by Global Link for that recent Japanese Musical show. Since YouTube videos have now been allowed, unlike before (and sound files were previously allowed), I thought this might be possible too :D [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 09:52, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
:Sound files have been tricky in the past. I don't ever remember having working sound files on wiki pages that weren't links to external sites; we tried to get 493 cries once and the server exploded. We're trying something else to get the cries back on the species pages, so I'll bring this up with the others and see if there's a consensus for incorporating non-cry sounds and how we could do it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:05, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
::I've seen a few fansites with cries, like Marriland and UPC, that hold all 649 of 'em. If anyone at all is in any kind of affilation with one, we could see how they did it.
::Yes, fansite, i know. This is just a possibility, and possibilities are possible to be proven wrong by other possible possibilities. So, it's possible. [[User:EvilKirikizan|EvilKirikizan]] 23:38, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
:::We are looking to work with our German colleagues at [[de:Hauptseite|Pokéwiki]] to see how they did it. It's possible that the person who set it up last time just missed something. But of course, we'll let you know how this goes when it goes anywhere :D —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:14, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
::::Makes sense. I'd most likely have suggested that, if I ever bothered to try to read German. :) I do believe that it should work; Bulbapedia is just as reliable in Germany. Assuming you can speak their language. [[User:EvilKirikizan|EvilKirikizan]] 23:37, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

== uploading media ==

Trom, I want to upload a Misdreavus Crystal sprite I found that looks better than the one on the page. I can't upload anything right now, though (currently restricted to admins and such). What can I do? Also, will uploading media be restored to regular members eventually?--[[User:Jdthebud|Jdthebud]] 08:54, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
:Uploading appears to be open again. Sorry for the inconvenience. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:22, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

== Darknesslover5000/Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire remake speculation ==

My "Darknesslover5000/Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire remake speculation", is it blocked?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 14:54, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
:It's been protected because you broke the one edit per day userspace limit on it. You've also edited that page seven times since your last mainspace edit which was back in February. The protection will expire in one month, but you need to make some mainspace edits before you edit it again. Further information about the userspace restrictions can be found in the {{bp|Userspace policy}}. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:34, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
::I see - .- [[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 23:44, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

== Again with the userspaces ==

I was going to ask [[User: Werdnae|Werdnae]] at first, but i decided that it would be funny if i bothered you about userspaces again. Some people have pages that go along with the userpage, like Deth's [[User:MAGNEDETH/Sprite|ugly sprite page]] (the sprites are ugly, not the page). So, some questions.
* Do edits to these stack up with your main userspace edits?
* What is the maximum number of these one is allowed?
* May i make one?
* Should i ask a different person about userspaces next time?

Thanks!

''P.S. Yes, this is the last userspace related question i will ask you until the 19th of September at my earliest.'' [[User:EvilKirikizan|EvilKirikizan]] 01:17, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
:Feel free to ask me what you like; if I don't reply straight away I'm sure someone equally knowledgeable will.
:* You may make one userspace edit to the entirety of your userspace (including subpages) per day, provided you make a balanced amount of mainspace edits too.
:* There is no limit to how many userspace subpages you have, but keep it practical.
:* You may make whatever you want provided you keep within the limits.
:* Nah. But some of your questions may be able to be answered by reading the {{bp|userspace policy}}. Check that every time before you ask a question; it might save you some time.
:Always glad to help, —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:36, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

== Plagiarism ==

I don't know if you got my message on the Pokemon Wiki, are there any other articles that have your appearance descriptions? [[User:Crimsonnavy|Crimsonnavy]] 01:57, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
:Another editor brought these pages to my concern: Tepig, Oshawott, Ferrothorn, Galvantula. However I believe that almost every page will have plagiarized content. I suggest further checks are carried out at your end. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:04, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
::I went through every Gen V page, and I think I removed them all, is it only gen V articles? [[User:Crimsonnavy|Crimsonnavy]] 20:17, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
:::That's all that I'm aware of, but it can't hurt to check a few of the earlier pages. Thank you for your help. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:37, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

==Quote Question==
PsychicRider thought I should ask you for a second opinion. If I'm getting quotes from a game back when the capitalization was crazy (POKéMON, etc.), should I maintain that capitalization on the page or change it to standard capitalization? Right now I have it as done in the game, as much as it pains me. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 02:14, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

User talk:PsychicRider/Archive8

2011-06-28T02:11:34Z

Ikarishipper900: /* Quote question */

Brendan (game)

2011-06-28T02:07:37Z

Ikarishipper900: Restructured some, added some quotes.

{{CharInfobox |
color={{ruby color}} |
corecolor={{ruby color light}} |
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}} |
name=Brendan |
jname=ユウキ |
tmname=Yūki |
image=Emerald Brendan.png |
size=200px |
caption=Art from {{v2|Emerald}} |
gender=Male |
hometown=[[Littleroot Town]] |
region=[[Hoenn]] (originally [[Johto]] if chosen by the player) |
relatives=Mom, [[Norman]] (as player) [[Professor Birch]], unnamed mother and brother[[Pokémon Emerald Version|*]] (as rival) |
colors=no |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]], [[Player character]] |
numpkmncaught=Varies with canon |
game=yes |
generation={{gen|III}} |
games={{3v2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}} |
leader=no |
anime=no |
anime=cameo|
epnum=M06 |
epname=Jirachi: Wish Maker|
manga=counterpart |
mangacounterpart={{adv|Ruby}} |
roundnum=PS181|
roundname=VS. Cacnea |
}}
'''Brendan''' (Japanese: '''ユウキ''' ''Yūki'') is the male choice for the [[player character]] in {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}, and also serves as the [[rival]] in the same games if the player chooses to play as the {{ga|May|female character}}.
==In the games==
===In {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}===
====As player====
If Brendan is selected as the player character he starts his journey moving from his home in Johto to his new home in the town of Littleroot in Hoenn. After saving Prof. Birch from a wild Pokémon, he is given one of the three starters of the Hoenn region. Brendan develops a close bond with {{ga|May}}, and eventually [[Wally]], who both act as his rivals. Brendan goes on to gather the eight badges of Hoenn, stop the plans of [[Team Aqua]] and/or [[Team Magma]] and conquer the Pokémon League all before going off to face the Battle Frontier (in Emerald).

=====Names=====
While the player can name this character as is the case with all player characters, there are several default names provided for him. In {{v2|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}, he has four default names, including three shared between the two versions. The two variant names between games collaborates with the theme of the plot, referring to "land" and "sea" respectively.

In the English version, these names are '''Land'''on and '''Sea'''n; in the Japanese version, リクヤ '''''Riku'''ya'' and カイト '''''Kai'''to'' (陸 ''riku'' means land and 海 ''kai'' means sea). This is also the case in other languages. Additionally, in the English version, two of the shared names—Terry and Seth—seem to be influenced by the same theme.

In all translated versions of {{v2|Emerald}}, Brendan has the same default names as in Pokémon Ruby, as well as 16 additional names which don't seem to hold any significance. Consequently, there is no default name that relates to "sea" in Emerald. Notably, as the player character, the name Brendan (or its other language counterparts) is never offered as a default name in any version.

As a rival, Brendan's name is static.

The full list of default names for Brendan as the male playable character in the games are as follows:
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ruby color}};"
! Language !! Ruby and Emerald !! Sapphire !! Emerald only
|-
|| English
||
* ''Landon''
* ''Terry''
* ''Seth''
* ''Tom''
||
* ''Sean''
* ''Terry''
* ''Seth''
* ''Tom''
||
{|
|-
|
* ''Brett''
* ''Casey''
* ''Collin''
* ''Darren''
|
* ''Easton''
* ''Jaxson''
* ''Johnny''
* ''Jude''
|
* ''Kenny''
* ''Milton''
* ''Quincy''
* ''Reid''
|
* ''Stanley''
* ''Stu''
* ''Teru''
* ''Walker''
|}
|-
|| Japanese
||
* リクヤ ''Rikuya''
* ヒロアキ ''Hiroaki''
* ヒトシ ''Hitoshi''
* ケイ ''Kei''
||
* カイト ''Kaito''
* ヒロアキ ''Hiroaki''
* ヒトシ ''Hitoshi''
* ケイ ''Kei''
||
{|
|-
|
* イツオ ''Itsuo''
* ギョク ''Gyoku''
* シュウサク ''Shūsaku''
* セイゴ ''Seigo''
* ダイサク ''Daisaku''
* タカヒト ''Takahito''
* タツヤ ''Tatsuya''
* ダニエル ''Daniel''
|
* テルキ ''Teruki''
* トム ''Tom''
* トモヤ ''Tomoya''
* ユキヒコ ''Yukihiko''
* ラルド ''Rald''
* リチャード ''Richard''
* リュウ ''Ryū''
* リョウタ ''Ryōta''
|}
|-
|| German
||
* ''Roland''
* ''Daniel''
* ''Helge''
* ''Jan''
||
* ''Sebold''
* ''Daniel''
* ''Helge''
* ''Jan''
||
{|
|-
|
* ''Anselm''
* ''David''
* ''Dieter''
* ''Erik''
|
* ''Florian''
* ''Haiko''
* ''Johann''
* ''Jörg''
|
* ''Klaus''
* ''Markus''
* ''Martin''
* ''Michael''
|
* ''Paul''
* ''Rolf''
* ''Stefan''
* ''Thomas''
|}
|-
|| Spanish
||
* ''Teren''
* ''Quimi''
* ''Rufo''
* ''Arturo''
||
* ''Marino''
* ''Quimi''
* ''Rufo''
* ''Arturo''
||
{|
|-
|
* ''Aitor''
* ''Arturo''
* ''Carlo''
* ''Daniel''
|
* ''Eleno''
* ''Enrique''
* ''Jesuso''
* ''Juli''
|
* ''Lareo''
* ''Luis''
* ''Marcelo''
* ''Marco''
|
* ''Mario''
* ''Mauri''
* ''Roberto''
* ''Pedro''
|}
|-
|| French
||
* ''Thierry''
* ''Thomas''
* ''Daniel''
* ''Seb''
||
* ''Martial''
* ''Thomas''
* ''Daniel''
* ''Seb''
||
{|
|-
|
* ''Alec''
* ''Arno''
* ''Colin''
* ''Daniel''
|
* ''Fabrice''
* ''Gary''
* ''Gibus''
* ''Johann''
|
* ''Johnny''
* ''Jules''
* ''Manuel''
* ''Ruddy''
|
* ''Severin''
* ''Stan''
* ''Stef''
* ''Thibaud''
|}
|-
|| Italian
||
* ''Landon''
* ''Marco''
* ''Paolo''
* ''Lucio''
||
* ''Martin''
* ''Marco''
* ''Paolo''
* ''Lucio''
||
|}

====As rival====
If Brendan is not selected as the player, he is helping his dad finish the Hoenn [[Pokédex]] and becoming a Pokémon professor. He is also the player's rival and friend. Unlike other [[rival]]s (except for {{ga|May}} when playing as Brendan), he gives up being a [[Pokémon Trainer|Trainer]], making them the only rivals unavailable for battle after defeating the [[Elite Four]]. Additionally, they both are the only ones to not [[evolution|evolve]] their [[starter Pokémon]] into its final form.

In the games he appears in, Brendan battles with the following Pokémon.

=====Pokémon in Ruby and Sapphire=====
======First battle======
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}300
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 103
|locationname=Route 103
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=255
|pokemon=Torchic
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Scratch|move1type=Normal
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal}}
}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}300
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 103
|locationname=Route 103
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=258
|pokemon=Mudkip
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal}}
}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}300
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 103
|locationname=Route 103
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=252
|pokemon=Treecko
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Pound|move1type=Normal
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal}}
}}

======Second battle======
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1200
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 110
|locationname=Route 110
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=285
|pokemon=Shroomish
|gender=female
|level=18
|type1=Grass
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Unknown
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal
|move2=Stun Spore|move2type=Grass
|move3=Leech Seed|move3type=Grass
|move4=Mega Drain|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=320
|pokemon=Wailmer
|gender=male
|level=18
|type1=Water
|ability=Water Veil
|held=Unknown
|move1=Splash|move1type=Water
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal
|move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water
|move4=Rollout|move4type=Rock}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=256
|pokemon=Combusken
|gender=male
|level=20
|type1=Fire|type2=Fighting
|ability=Blaze
|held=Unknown
|move1=Focus Energy|move1type=Normal
|move2=Ember|move2type=Fire
|move3=Double Kick|move3type=Fighting
|move4=Peck|move4type=Flying}}
}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1200
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 110
|locationname=Route 110
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=285
|pokemon=Shroomish
|gender=female
|level=18
|type1=Grass
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Unknown
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal
|move2=Stun Spore|move2type=Grass
|move3=Leech Seed|move3type=Grass
|move4=Mega Drain|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=322
|pokemon=Numel
|gender=female
|level=18
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Unknown
|move1=Growl|move1type=Normal
|move2=Tackle|move2type=Normal
|move3=Ember|move3type=Fire}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=259
|pokemon=Marshtomp
|gender=male
|level=20
|type1=Water
|type2=Ground
|ability=Torrent
|held=Unknown
|move1=Water Gun|move1type=Water
|move2=Bide|move2type=Normal
|move3=Mud Shot|move3type=Ground
|move4=Foresight|move4type=Normal}}
}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1200
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 110
|locationname=Route 110
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=320
|pokemon=Wailmer
|gender=male
|level=18
|type1=Water
|ability=Water Veil
|held=Unknown
|move1=Splash|move1type=Water
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal
|move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water
|move4=Rollout|move4type=Rock}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=322
|pokemon=Numel
|gender=female
|level=18
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Unknown
|move1=Growl|move1type=Normal
|move2=Tackle|move2type=Normal
|move3=Ember|move3type=Fire}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=253
|pokemon=Grovyle
|gender=male
|level=20
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|held=Unknown
|move1=Absorb|move1type=Grass
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal
|move3=Fury Cutter|move3type=Bug
|move4=Pursuit|move4type=Dark}}
}}

======Third battle======
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1860
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 119
|locationname=Route 119
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=285
|pokemon=Shroomish
|gender=female
|level=29
|type1=Grass
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Unknown
|move1=Headbutt|move1type=Normal
|move2=PoisonPowder|move2type=Poison
|move3=Leech Seed|move3type=Grass
|move4=Mega Drain|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=320
|pokemon=Wailmer
|gender=male
|level=29
|type1=Water
|ability=Water Veil
|held=Unknown
|move1=Rollout|move1type=Rock
|move2=Astonish|move2type=Ghost
|move3=Water Pulse|move3type=Water
|move4=Whirlpool|move4type=Water}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=256
|pokemon=Combusken
|gender=male
|level=31
|type1=Fire|type2=Fighting
|ability=Blaze
|held=Unknown
|move1=Double Kick|move1type=Fighting
|move2=Bulk Up|move2type=Fighting
|move3=Sand-Attack|move3type=Ground
|move4=Peck|move4type=Flying}}}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1860
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 119
|locationname=Route 119
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=285
|pokemon=Shroomish
|gender=female
|level=29
|type1=Grass
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Unknown
|move1=Headbutt|move1type=Normal
|move2=PoisonPowder|move2type=Poison
|move3=Leech Seed|move3type=Grass
|move4=Mega Drain|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=322
|pokemon=Numel
|gender=female
|level=29
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Unknown
|move1=Ember|move1type=Fire
|move2=Magnitude|move2type=Ground
|move3=Focus Energy|move3type=Normal
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=259
|pokemon=Marshtomp
|gender=male
|level=31
|type1=Water|type2=Ground
|ability=Torrent
|held=Unknown
|move1=Mud Shot|move1type=Ground
|move2=Mud Sport|move2type=Ground
|move3=Foresight|move3type=Normal
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1860
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 119
|locationname=Route 119
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=320
|pokemon=Wailmer
|gender=male
|level=29
|type1=Water
|ability=Water Veil
|held=Unknown
|move1=Rollout|move1type=Rock
|move2=Astonish|move2type=Ghost
|move3=Water Pulse|move3type=Water
|move4=Whirlpool|move4type=Water}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=322
|pokemon=Numel
|gender=female
|level=29
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Unknown
|move1=Ember|move1type=Fire
|move2=Magnitude|move2type=Ground
|move3=Focus Energy|move3type=Normal
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=253
|pokemon=Grovyle
|gender=male
|level=31
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|held=Unknown
|move1=Leaf Blade|move1type=Grass
|move2=Screech|move2type=Normal
|move3=Fury Cutter|move3type=Bug
|move4=Pursuit|move4type=Dark}}}}

======Fourth battle======
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}2040
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Lilycove City
|pokemon=4
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=277
|pokemon=Swellow
|gender=female
|level=31
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying
|ability=Guts
|held=Unknown
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal
|move2=Wing Attack|move2type=Flying
|move3=Endeavor|move3type=Normal
|move4=Double Team|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=320
|pokemon=Wailmer
|gender=male
|level=32
|type1=Water
|ability=Water Veil
|held=Unknown
|move1=Mist|move1type=Ice
|move2=Astonish|move2type=Ghost
|move3=Water Pulse|move3type=Water
|move4=Whirlpool|move4type=Water}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=285
|pokemon=Shroomish
|gender=female
|level=32
|type1=Grass
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Unknown
|move1=Headbutt|move1type=Normal
|move2=PoisonPowder|move2type=Poison
|move3=Leech Seed|move3type=Grass
|move4=Mega Drain|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=256
|pokemon=Combusken
|gender=male
|level=34
|type1=Fire|type2=Fighting
|ability=Blaze
|held=Unknown
|move1=Double Kick|move1type=Fighting
|move2=Bulk Up|move2type=Fighting
|move3=Sand-Attack|move3type=Ground
|move4=Peck|move4type=Flying}}}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}2040
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Lilycove City
|pokemon=4
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=277
|pokemon=Swellow
|gender=female
|level=31
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying
|ability=Guts
|held=Unknown
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal
|move2=Wing Attack|move2type=Flying
|move3=Endeavor|move3type=Normal
|move4=Double Team|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=285
|pokemon=Shroomish
|gender=female
|level=32
|type1=Grass
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Unknown
|move1=Headbutt|move1type=Normal
|move2=PoisonPowder|move2type=Poison
|move3=Leech Seed|move3type=Grass
|move4=Mega Drain|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=322
|pokemon=Numel
|gender=female
|level=32
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Unknown
|move1=Amnesia|move1type=Psychic
|move2=Magnitude|move2type=Ground
|move3=Focus Energy|move3type=Normal
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=259
|pokemon=Marshtomp
|gender=male
|level=34
|type1=Water|type2=Ground
|ability=Torrent
|held=Unknown
|move1=Mud Shot|move1type=Ground
|move2=Mud Sport|move2type=Ground
|move3=Foresight|move3type=Normal
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=RS Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}2040
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=RS
|location=Lilycove City
|pokemon=4
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=277
|pokemon=Swellow
|gender=female
|level=31
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying
|ability=Guts
|held=Unknown
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal
|move2=Wing Attack|move2type=Flying
|move3=Endeavor|move3type=Normal
|move4=Double Team|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=322
|pokemon=Numel
|gender=female
|level=32
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Unknown
|move1=Amnesia|move1type=Psychic
|move2=Magnitude|move2type=Ground
|move3=Focus Energy|move3type=Normal
|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=320
|pokemon=Wailmer
|gender=male
|level=32
|type1=Water
|ability=Water Veil
|held=Unknown
|move1=Mist|move1type=Ice
|move2=Astonish|move2type=Ghost
|move3=Water Pulse|move3type=Water
|move4=Whirlpool|move4type=Water}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=253
|pokemon=Grovyle
|gender=male
|level=34
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|held=Unknown
|move1=Leaf Blade|move1type=Grass
|move2=Screech|move2type=Normal
|move3=Fury Cutter|move3type=Bug
|move4=Pursuit|move4type=Dark}}}}

=====Quotes in Ruby and Sapphire=====
{{incomplete|section}}
=====Pokémon in Emerald=====
======First battle======
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=E Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}300
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=E
|location=Hoenn Route 103
|locationname=Route 103
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=255
|pokemon=Torchic
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Scratch|move1type=Normal
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal}}
}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=E Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}300
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=E
|location=Hoenn Route 103
|locationname=Route 103
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=258
|pokemon=Mudkip
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal}}
}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=E Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}300
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=E
|location=Hoenn Route 103
|locationname=Route 103
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=252
|pokemon=Treecko
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Pound|move1type=Normal
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal}}
}}

======Second battle (Optional)======
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=E Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}900
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=E
|location=Rustboro City
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=270
|pokemon=Lotad
|gender=female
|level=13
|type1=Water|type2=Grass
|ability=Swift Swim
|held=Unknown
|move1=Nature Power|move1type=Normal
|move2=Absorb|move2type=Grass
|move3=Growl|move3type=Normal
|move4=Astonish|move4type=Ghost}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=278
|pokemon=Wingull
|gender=female
|level=13
|type1=Water|type2=Flying
|ability=Keen Eye
|held=Unknown
|move1=Growl|move1type=Normal
|move2=Water Gun|move2type=Water
|move3=Supersonic|move3type=Normal
|move4=Wing Attack|move4type=Flying}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=255
|pokemon=Torchic
|gender=male
|level=15
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|held=Unknown
|move1=Scratch|move1type=Normal
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal
|move3=Focus Energy|move3type=Normal
|move4=Ember|move4type=Fire}}
}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=E Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}900
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=E
|location=Rustboro City
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=270
|pokemon=Lotad
|gender=female
|level=13
|type1=Water|type2=Grass
|ability=Swift Swim
|held=Unknown
|move1=Nature Power|move1type=Normal
|move2=Absorb|move2type=Grass
|move3=Growl|move3type=Normal
|move4=Astonish|move4type=Ghost}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=218
|pokemon=Slugma
|gender=female
|level=13
|type1=Fire
|ability=Unknown
|held=Unknown
|move1=Ember|move1type=Fire
|move2=Smog|move2type=Poison
|move3=Curse|move3type=???
|move4=SmokeScreen|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=258
|pokemon=Mudkip
|gender=male
|level=15
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|held=Unknown
|move1=Bide|move1type=Normal
|move2=Mud-Slap|move2type=Ground
|move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water
|move4=Growl|move4type=Normal}}
}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{ruby color}}
|headcolor={{ruby color light}}
|bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}
|sprite=E Brendan.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}900
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Brendan
|game=E
|location=Rustboro City
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=278
|pokemon=Wingull
|gender=female
|level=13
|type1=Water|type2=Flying
|ability=Keen Eye
|held=Unknown
|move1=Wing Attack|move1type=Flying
|move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal
|move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water
|move4=Growl|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=218
|pokemon=Slugma
|gender=female
|level=13
|type1=Fire
|ability=Unknown
|held=Unknown
|move1=Ember|move1type=Fire
|move2=Smog|move2type=Poison
|move3=Curse|move3type=???
|move4=SmokeScreen|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=252
|pokemon=Treecko
|gender=male
|level=15
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|held=Unknown
|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal
|move2=Absorb|move2type=Grass
|move3=Leer|move3type=Normal
|move4=Pound|move4type=Normal}}
}}

======Third battle======
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}1350|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Hoenn Route 110 |
locationname=Route 110 |
pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=278|
pokemon=Wingull|
gender=female|
level=18|
ability=Keen Eye|
type1=Water|type2=Flying|
move1=Wing Attack|move1type=Flying|
move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal|
move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water|
move4=Growl|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=271|
pokemon=Lombre|
gender=female|
level=18|
ability=Swift Swim|
type1=Water|type2=Grass|
move1=Nature Power|move1type=Normal|
move2=Growl|move2type=Normal|
move3=Astonish|move3type=Ghost|
move4=Absorb|move4type=Grass}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=256|
pokemon=Combusken|
gender=male|
level=20|
ability=Blaze|
type1=Fire|type2=Fighting|
move1=Peck|move1type=Flying|
move2=Ember|move2type=Fire|
move3=Focus Energy|move3type=Normal|
move4=Double Kick|move4type=Fighting}}
}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}1350|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Hoenn Route 110 |
locationname=Route 110 |
pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=271|
pokemon=Lombre|
gender=female|
level=18|
ability=Swift Swim|
type1=Water|type2=Grass|
move1=Nature Power|move1type=Normal|
move2=Growl|move2type=Normal|
move3=Astonish|move3type=Ghost|
move4=Absorb|move4type=Grass}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=218|
pokemon=Slugma|
gender=male|
level=18|
ability=Flame Body|
type1=Fire|
move1=Yawn|move1type=Normal|
move2=Smog|move2type=Poison|
move3=Ember|move3type=Fire|
move4=Rock Throw|move4type=Rock}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=259|
pokemon=Marshtomp|
gender=male|
level=20|
ability=Torrent|
type1=Water|type2=Ground|
move1=Foresight|move1type=Normal|
move2=Water Gun|move2type=Water|
move3=Bide|move3type=Normal|
move4=Mud Shot|move4type=Ground}}
}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}1350|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Hoenn Route 110 |
locationname=Route 110 |
pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=278|
pokemon=Wingull|
gender=female|
level=18|
ability=Keen Eye|
type1=Water|type2=Flying|
move1=Water Gun|move1type=Water|
move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal|
move3=Wing Attack|move3type=Flying|
move4=Growl|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=218|
pokemon=Slugma|
gender=female|
level=18|
ability=Flame Body|
type1=Fire|
move1=Yawn|move1type=Normal|
move2=Smog|move2type=Poison|
move3=Ember|move3type=Fire|
move4=Rock Throw|move4type=Rock}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=253|
pokemon=Grovyle|
gender=male|
level=20|
ability=Overgrow|
type1=Grass|
move1=Pursuit|move1type=Dark|
move2=Fury Cutter|move2type=Bug|
move3=Quick Attack|move3type=Normal|
move4=Absorb|move4type=Grass}}
}}

======Fourth battle======
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}2400|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Hoenn Route 119 |
locationname=Route 119 |
pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=271|
pokemon=Lombre|
gender=male|
level=29|
ability=Swift Swim|
type1=Water|type2=Grass|
move1=Absorb|move1type=Grass|
move2=Nature Power|move2type=Normal|
move3=Fake Out|move3type=Normal|
move4=Fury Swipes|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=278|
pokemon=Wingull|
gender=male|
level=29|
ability=Keen Eye|
type1=Water|type2=Flying|
move1=Supersonic|move1type=Normal|
move2=Mist|move2type=Ice |
move3=Quick Attack|move3type=Normal|
move4=Wing Attack|move4type=Flying}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=256|
pokemon=Combusken|
gender=male|
level=31|
ability=Blaze|
type1=Fire|type2=Fighting|
move1=Sand-Attack|move1type=Ground|
move2=Peck |move2type=Flying|
move3=Bulk Up|move3type=Fighting|
move4=Double Kick|move4type=Fighting}}
}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}2400|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Hoenn Route 119 |
locationname=Route 119 |
pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=271|
pokemon=Lombre|
gender=male|
level=29|
ability=Swift Swim|
type1=Water|type2=Grass|
move1=Absorb|move1type=Grass|
move2=Nature Power|move2type=Normal|
move3=Fake Out|move3type=Normal|
move4=Fury Swipes|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=218|
pokemon=Slugma|
gender=male|
level=29|
ability=Flame Body|
type1=Fire|
move1=Ember|move1type=Fire|
move2=Rock Throw|move2type=Rock|
move3=Harden|move3type=Normal|
move4=Amnesia|move4type=Psychic}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=259|
pokemon=Marshtomp|
gender=male|
level=31|
ability=Torrent|
type1=Water|type2=Ground|
move1=Mud Shot|move1type=Ground|
move2=Foresight|move2type=Normal|
move3=Mud Sport|move3type=Ground|
move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}
}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}2400|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Hoenn Route 119 |
locationname=Route 119 |
pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=218|
pokemon=Slugma|
gender=male|
level=29|
ability=Flame Body|
type1=Fire|
move1=Ember|move1type=Fire|
move2=Rock Throw|move2type=Rock|
move3=Harden|move3type=Normal|
move4=Amnesia|move4type=Psychic}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=278|
pokemon=Wingull|
gender=male|
level=29|
ability=Keen Eye|
type1=Water|type2=Flying|
move1=Supersonic|move1type=Normal|
move2=Mist|move2type=Ice|
move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water|
move4=Wing Attack|move4type=Flying}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=253|
pokemon=Grovyle|
gender=male|
level=31|
ability=Overgrow|
type1=Grass|
move1=Leaf Blade|move1type=Grass|
move2=Screech|move2type=Normal|
move3=Pursuit|move3type=Dark|
move4=Fury Cutter|move4type=Bug}}
}}

======Fifth Battle======
{{MSP|252|Treecko}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}2740|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Lilycove City |
pokemon=4|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=357|
pokemon=Tropius|
gender=female|
level=31|
ability=Chlorophyll|
type1=Grass|type2=Flying|
move1=Magical Leaf|move1type=Grass|
move2=Whirlwind|move2type=Normal|
move3=Sweet Scent|move3type=Normal|
move4=Stomp|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=272|
pokemon=Ludicolo|
gender=female|
level=32|
ability=Swift Swim|
type1=Water|type2=Grass|
move1=Nature Power|move1type=Normal|
move2=Fake Out|move2type=Normal|
move3=Fury Swipes|move3type=Normal|
move4=Water Sport|move4type=Water}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=279|
pokemon=Pelipper|
gender=female|
level=32|
ability=Keen Eye|
type1=Water|type2=Flying|
move1=Protect|move1type=Normal|
move2=Mist|move2type=Ice|
move3=Wing Attack|move3type=Flying|
move4=Supersonic|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=256|
pokemon=Combusken|
gender=male|
level=34|
ability=Blaze|
type1=Fire|type2=Fighting|
move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal|
move2=Bulk Up|move2type=Fighting|
move3=Sand-Attack|move3type=Ground|
move4=Peck|move4type=Flying}}
}}

{{MSP|255|Torchic}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}2740|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Lilycove City |
pokemon=4|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=357|
pokemon=Tropius|
gender=male|
level=31|
ability=Chlorophyll|
type1=Grass|type2=Flying|
move1=Magical Leaf|move1type=Grass|
move2=Whirlwind|move2type=Normal|
move3=Sweet Scent|move3type=Normal|
move4=Stomp|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=272|
pokemon=Ludicolo|
gender=male|
level=32|
ability=Swift Swim|
type1=Water|type2=Grass|
move1=Nature Power|move1type=Normal|
move2=Fake Out|move2type=Normal|
move3=Fury Swipes|move3type=Normal|
move4=Water Sport|move4type=Water}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=218|
pokemon=Slugma|
gender=male|
level=32|
ability=Flame Body|
type1=Fire|
move1=Ember|move1type=Fire|
move2=Rock Throw|move2type=Rock|
move3=Harden|move3type=Normal|
move4=Amnesia|move4type=Psychic}}|
pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=259|
pokemon=Marshtomp|
gender=male|
level=34|
ability=Torrent|
type1=Water|type2=Ground|
move1=Mud Shot|move1type=Ground|
move2=Foresight|move2type=Normal|
move3=Mud Sport|move3type=Ground|
move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}
}}

{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party|
color={{ruby color}}|
headcolor={{ruby color light}}|
bordercolor={{ruby color dark}}|
sprite=E Brendan.png|
prize={{Pdollar}}2740|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=Brendan |
game=E |
location=Lilycove City |
pokemon=4|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=357|
pokemon=Tropius|
gender=female|
level=31|
ability=Chlorophyll|
type1=Grass|type2=Flying|
move1=Magical Leaf|move1type=Grass|
move2=Whirlwind|move2type=Normal|
move3=Sweet Scent|move3type=Normal|
move4=Stomp|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=279|
pokemon=Pelipper|
gender=female|
level=32|
ability=Keen Eye|
type1=Water|type2=Flying|
move1=Protect|move1type=Normal|
move2=Mist|move2type=Ice|
move3=Wing Attack|move3type=Flying|
move4=Supersonic|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=218|
pokemon=Slugma|
gender=female|
level=32|
ability=Flame Body|
type1=Fire|
move1=Ember|move1type=Fire|
move2=Rock Throw|move2type=Rock|
move3=Harden|move3type=Normal|
move4=Amnesia|move4type=Psychic}}|
pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=253|
pokemon=Grovyle|
gender=male|
level=34|
ability=Overgrow|
type1=Grass|
move1=Fury Cutter|move1type=Bug|
move2=Pursuit|move2type=Dark|
move3=Screech|move3type=Normal|
move4=Leaf Blade|move4type=Grass}}
}}

=====Quotes in Emerald=====
{{incomplete|section}}
======Littleroot Town (1st Visit)======
''"! Hey! You... Who are you? Oh, you're [[Player character|<player>]], aren't you? Moved in next door, right? I didn't know you're a girl. Dad, [[Professor Birch|PROF. BIRCH]], said our new next-door neighbor is a [[Gym Leader|GYM LEADER]]'s kid, so I assumed you'd be a guy. My name's BRENDAN. So, hi, neighbor! Huh? Hey, <player>, don't you have a POKéMON? Do you want me to go catch you one? Aw, darn, I forgot... I'm supposed to go help my dad catch some wild POKéMON. Some other time, okay?"''

======Match Call======
'''Strategy''' -
Battle with knowledge!

'''Trainer's Pokémon''' -
I will use various Pokémon.

'''Self-Introduction''' -
I'll be a better Pokémon prof than my father is!

==Artwork==
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Ruby Sapphire Brendan.png|100px]]
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Brendan Ribbon.png|200px]]
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Rayquaza Encounter.png|130px]]
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Battle Tower art.png|200px]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Official artwork from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby and Sapphire}}
| Giving a {{color2|000000|Ribbon}} to {{color2|000000|Torchic}}.
| Encountering {{color2|000000|Rayquaza}}.
| In the {{color2|000000|Battle Tower}}.
|}

===Sprites===
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:RS Brendan.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:RS Brendan Back.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:E Brendan.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:E Brendan Back.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Colo Brendan.png|60px]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:XD Brendan RS.png|80px]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{ruby color dark}}; background: #{{ruby color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:XD Brendan Em.png|80px]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Brendan's sprite from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby and Sapphire}}
| Brendan's back sprite from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby and Sapphire}}
| Brendan's sprite from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
| Brendan's back sprite from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
| Image of Brendan from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Colosseum|Colosseum}}
| A headshot of Brendan from {{color2|000000|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|Pokémon XD}} (RS variant)
| A headshot of Brendan from {{color2|000000|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|Pokémon XD}} (E variant)
|}
{{-}}

==Counterparts==
===In the anime===
[[Image:Brendan_Swampert.png|thumb|220px|Brendan's anime appearance]]
Brendan's only anime appearances are small cameos in the movies, appearing in the openings of ''[[M06|Jirachi: Wish Maker]]'', ''[[M09|Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]]'' and ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''. Brendan seems to be a competitive battler, as his cameos suggest he spends time in Battle Towers. In all of his appearances, he has appeared with his Ruby and Sapphire outfit.

Like in the games, he has the [[starter Pokémon]] that weakens {{an|May}}'s. It is unknown if his relatives are the same as that of the games, where, as May is [[Norman]]'s daughter (as the player is), Brendan would be [[Professor Birch]]'s son.

====Pokémon====
The following are Brendan's known Pokémon in the anime:

{{TrainerPoké
|main=no
|trainer=Brendan
|pkmn=Swampert
|type1=Water
|type2=Ground
|img=Brendan_Swampert.png
|epnum=M09
|epname=Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea
|vajp=
|vaen=
|desc={{p|Swampert}} is most likely Brendan's starter Pokémon. Not much is known about it, however, as it has only been seen briefly at the beginning of [[M09|the ninth movie]], where it was seen confronting {{mo|Rebecca}}'s {{p|Tyranitar}} in the [[Battle Tower]].

Swampert's only known move is {{m|Ice Beam}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|main=no
|trainer=Brendan
|pkmn=Aggron
|type1=Steel
|type2=Rock
|img=Brendan Aggron Shiftry.png
|epnum=M06
|epname=Jirachi: Wish Maker
|vajp=
|vaen=
|desc=Brendan's {{p|Aggron}} was only briefly seen in a [[double battle]] at the beginning of [[M06|the sixth movie]] alongside Shiftry, against a {{p|Solrock}} and {{p|Manectric}}. Aggron was freezing the opponent's Solrock while Shiftry was being hit by the Manectric's {{m|Spark}}. Notably, Aggron is kept within a {{DL|Poké Ball|Luxury Ball}}, a type of [[Poké Ball]] rarely seen in the anime.

Aggron's only known move is {{m|Ice Beam}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Brendan
|pkmn=Shiftry
|type1=Grass
|type2=Dark
|img=Brendan Shiftry.png
|epnum=M06
|epname=Jirachi: Wish Maker
|desc=Brendan's {{p|Shiftry}} was only briefly seen in a [[double battle]] at the beginning of [[M06|the sixth movie]] alongside Aggron, against a {{p|Solrock}} and {{p|Manectric}}. Aggron was freezing the opponent's Solrock while Shiftry was being hit by the Manectric's {{m|Spark}}. Notably, Shiftry is kept within a {{DL|Poké Ball|Repeat Ball}}, a type of [[Poké Ball]] rarely seen in the anime.

Shiftry's only known move is {{m|Bullet Seed}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|main=no
|trainer=Brendan
|pkmn=Rhyperior
|type1=Ground
|type2=Rock
|img=Brendan_Rhyperior.png
|epnum=M11
|epname=Giratina and the Sky Warrior
|vajp=
|vaen=
|desc=Brendan's {{p|Rhyperior}} has only made a brief appearance at the beginning of [[M11|the eleventh movie]], where it was seen battling against {{ga|Lucas}}'s {{p|Magmortar}}.

Rhyperior's only known move is {{m|Hammer Arm}}.}}

===In the manga===
There are three different manga counterparts to Brendan: {{adv|Ruby}} from the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga, {{OBP|Ruby|Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire}} from the [[Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire]] manga, and [[Rald]] from the [[Pokémon Battle Frontier]] manga.

===In the TFG===
{{TFG ID|Next Quest|Brendan|41}}, based on a blue recolor of this character's usual clothes, appears as a common Trainer figure in {{TFG|Next Quest}}, the launch set of the [[Pokémon Trading Figure Game]]. There is also an unreleased figurine based on him from the cancelled {{TFG|Groundbreakers}} expansion, named {{TFG ID|Groundbreakers|Landon|41}} (one of the default names for him in Pokémon Ruby and Emerald), who wears the same outfit as Brendan does in Ruby and Sapphire.

==Trivia==
*In [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]], {{p|Pikachu}} wears Brendan's Emerald headband as an alternate costume. Also, the [[Red (game)#In the Super Smash Bros. series|Pokémon Trainer]] has an alternate costume with a similar color scheme as Brendan's Emerald outfit.
*He and {{ga|May}} are the only set of player characters who have a chance to speak with both a mother and a father in the games.

{| align="left" style="background: #{{ruby color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 3px solid #{{ruby color}}"
! Language !! Name !! Origin
|- style="background: #FFF"
|Japanese
| ユウキ ''Yūki''
| From 勇気 ''yūki'', bravery.
|- style="background: #FFF"
|English
| Brendan
| Could be derived from "brave."
|- style="background: #FFF"
|French
| Brice
| Similar to the English name.
|- style="background: #FFF"
|German
| Brix
| Similar to the English name.
|- style="background: #FFF"
|Italian
| Brendon
| Similar to the English name.
|- style="background: #FFF"
|Spanish
| Bruno
| Similar to the English name.

|- style="background: #FFF"
|Chinese (Taiwan)
| 祐樹 ''Yòushù''
| From 祐樹 ''yūki''.
|}{{-}}
{| align="center"
| valign="top" |{{Player characters}}
|-
| valign="top" |{{Rival characters}}
|}
 
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}
[[Category:Rival characters]]
[[Category:Ruby and Sapphire characters]]
[[Category:Emerald characters]]
[[Category:Male characters]]

[[de:Brix (Spielcharakter)]]
[[es:Bruno (personaje)]]
[[fr:Brice]]
[[ja:ユウキ (ゲーム)]]

User talk:PsychicRider/Archive8

2011-06-28T01:45:15Z

Ikarishipper900:

Talk:Escape

2011-06-24T00:55:28Z

Ikarishipper900: /* Page title */

Why don't the images work? I've uploaded them on the Archives but they still don't show up here. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 12:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

:Like I said on [[Talk:Main Page]], it's a bug. Images uploaded on the Archives may not show up on the Bulbapedia side at first. The situation usually sorts itself out over time, so I'd recommend leaving them as is--it'll probably fix itself eventually. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:18, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::It's been like that for over a day. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

== Testing Ingrain+Run Away ==

"No Pokémon species has both Run Away and the ability to learn Ingrain, so it is unknown how the two interact. "
This is easy enough to test, simply Baton Pass Ingrain to a Pokemon with Run Away and select run. [[User:Eric the espeon|Eric the espeon]] 21:51, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
* This was tested here: http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=1221818&postcount=6273 . I've updated the article accordingly. [[User:Yenreb|Yenreb]] 23:05, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

== Wild Pokémon fleeing? ==

Can wild, non-roaming Pokémon flee? I've seen a video where it happens in Crystal, but can it still happen in other generations?[[User:The Sandwich Oven|The Sandwich Oven]] 21:19, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
:Besides Safari Zone, G/S, Great Marsh, nope. The Fast Ball was used exclusively in the Generation II games for this purpose, and its use was altered in HGSS. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:48, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
That explains how a Phanpy on Route 46 could flee. Thanks.[[User:The Sandwich Oven|The Sandwich Oven]] 22:55, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

== Attempting to run after a Pokémon faints ==

During a wild battle, after one of your Pokémon has fainted you're given the option to attempt to flee. How is this processed? My guess is using the speed of the fainted Pokémon. [[User:Tylian|Tylian]] 05:04, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

==Page title==
Is the term "escape" ever used in-game? The in-battle command is "run", the resulting phrase is "Got away safely!", and the phrase used when a wild Pokémon escapes is "the wild Pokémon fled!" I feel like the page title should be something along these lines, such as "Run" or "Flee". --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 11:14, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
:I agree with this - I can't remember ever seeing "escape" used. I think "run" would be a better title. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 00:55, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Professor Juniper

2011-06-21T01:28:32Z

Ikarishipper900: /* Trivia */ Put two pieces of related trivia together instead them being seperate bullets.

{{search|woman who gives the player their starter Pokémon in Unova|this character's father|Cedric Juniper}}
{{CharInfobox|
color={{Unova color}} |
corecolor={{Unova color light}} |
bordercolor={{Unova color dark}} |
name=Professor Aurea Juniper |
jname=アララギ博士 |
tmname=Dr. Araragi |
slogan=no |
image=Juniper.png |
size=140px |
caption=Art by [[Ken Sugimori]] |
gender=Female |
colors=yes |
hair=Light Brown |
eyes={{tt|Green|In the games}}/{{tt|Cyan|In the anime}} |
age=no |
years= |
hometown=[[Nuvema Town]] |
region=[[Unova]] |
relatives=[[Cedric Juniper]] (father) |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Pokémon Professor]] |
game=yes |
generation={{Gen|V}} |
games={{2v2|Black|White}} |
leader=no |
anime=yes|
epnum=BW001|
epname=In The Shadow of Zekrom! |
enva=[[Khristine Hvam]]|
java=[[Naomi Shindō]]|
}}
'''Professor Aurea Juniper''' (Japanese: '''アララギ博士''' ''Dr. Araragi'') is the resident [[Pokémon Professor]] of [[Nuvema Town]] in the [[Unova]] region. She specializes in the origins of Pokémon, and is the first main series Pokémon professor who is female.

==In the games==
Professor Juniper debuted in {{game|Black and White|s}}, where, like the other professors, she will give the {{player}} a [[Pokédex]] in her lab; however, she leaves a present containing the [[starter Pokémon]] at the player's house for the player, [[Bianca]], and [[Cheren]].

She also demonstrates to the player how to capture their first Pokémon, a level 2 {{p|Patrat}}, with her level 7 {{p|Minccino}}.

Over the course of the game, if the player visited her in her lab, Professor Juniper will hand out up to three TMs depending on the total number of Pokémon the player has seen. They are {{TM|54|False Swipe}} (at 25 seen), {{TM|17|Protect}}, and {{TM|10|Hidden Power}}.

===Pokémon===
{{Party|color={{unova color}}|bordercolor={{unova color dark}}|headcolor={{unova color light}}
|sprite=BW Juniper Back.png‎
|name=Professor Juniper
|prize=None
|game=BW
|location=Unova Route 1
|locationname=Route 1
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon/5
|game=Black
|ndex=572
|pokemon=Minccino
|level=7
|type1=Normal
|ability=Unknown
|move1=Pound|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}}}

===Caught in tutorial===
{{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black and White
|ndex=504
|pokemon=Patrat
|level=2
|type1=Normal
|ability=Unknown
|move1=Leer|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status}}

===Sprites===
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{unova color dark}}; background: #{{unova color}};"
|- align=center
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{unova color dark}}; background: #{{unova color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Juniper BW Intro.png]]
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{unova color dark}}; background: #{{unova color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:BW Juniper Back.png]]
|style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{unova color dark}}; background: #{{unova color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Juniper Xtransceiver.png]]
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{unova color dark}}; background: #{{unova color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Juniperstanddown.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black and White}}'s introduction.
| Back sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black and White}}
| Xtranceiver sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black and White}}
| Overworld sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black and White}}
|}

==In the anime==
[[File:Juniper anime.png|250px|thumb|left|Professor Juniper in the anime]]
Professor Juniper made her first appearance in ''[[BW001|In The Shadow of Zekrom!]]'' and is an old friend of {{an|Professor Oak}}. She gives {{Ash}}, {{Delia}} and Oak a ride in her jeep to her lab so she can study [[Ash's Pikachu]]. She then shows Ash the new [[Starter Pokémon]], and then gives [[Trip]] his first {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}.

Ash later returns to Professor Juniper's lab after finding out that Ash's Pikachu has lost his electricity from {{p|Zekrom}}. Later the storm arrives again but this time it gives Pikachu's electric powers back, and Ash departs from her lab the next day.

She reappeared in ''[[BW003|A Sandile Gusher of Change!]]'' where she sent {{AP|Oshawott}}'s Poké Ball to Ash. In ''[[BW013|Minccino-Neat and Tidy!]]'' it was shown that she sent [[Bianca]] to give Ash his badge case. She then spoke to Ash via Bianca's [[Xtransceiver]].
Ash sent his {{AP|Pidove|Tranquill}} to her in ''[[BW018|Sewaddle and Burgh in Pinwheel Forest!]]'' to make room for his newly captured {{AP|Sewaddle|Swadloon}}. He switched them in ''[[BW021|The Lost World of Gothitelle!]]''.

In ''[[BW022|A Venipede Stampede!]]'' she thinks the problem of the {{p|Venipede}} swarm in [[Castelia City]] is something to do with the underground. Ash, {{an|Iris}} and {{an|Cilan}} meet up with Professor Juniper and leave to investigate the unusual activity caused by [[Team Rocket]] in the [[Desert Resort]]. She will appear in the [[BW023|Team Rocket]] [[BW024|arc]].

She reappeared in [[BW039]].

===Pokémon===
This listing is of Professor Juniper's known Pokémon:
====Gives to new Trainers====
{| width="100%"
|-
| {{ActivePoké|Juniper|Snivy|Juniper Snivy.png|Grass|disp=Snivy|link=no}}
| {{ActivePoké|Juniper|Tepig|Juniper Tepig.png|Fire|disp=Tepig|link=no}}
| {{ActivePoké|Juniper|Oshawott|Juniper Oshawott.png|Water|disp=Oshawott|link=no}}
|
|}

====Pokémon she gave away to Trainers====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Trip
|pkmn=Snivy|gender=male
|type1=Grass
|img=Trip Snivy.png
|epnum=BW001
|epname=In The Shadow of Zekrom!
|desc={{main|Trip's Servine}}
He was chosen by Trip to be his [[starter Pokémon]].}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Ash
|pkmn=Oshawott
|gender=male
|type1=Water
|img=Ash Oshawott.png
|epnum=BW001
|epname=In The Shadow of Zekrom!
|desc={{main|Ash's Oshawott}}
He tried to use his cuteness to win Trip over. However, Trip chose [[Trip's Servine|Snivy]]. He gained feelings for Ash after he called him cute, and he also watched the battle between Ash and Trip before returning. He later joined Ash's party.}}



==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
[[File:BW chapter adventures.png|thumb|right|220px|Professor Juniper in the manga]]
Although just starting, Professor Juniper has already appeared in the first chapter of the {{chap|Black & White}} of [[Pokémon Adventures]], where she was seen with the three starters, and mentioning to [[Fennel]] on the phone that tomorrow three children from [[Nuvema Town]] would be coming by to pick up the starters. She also commented that she hoped their trainers would be able to handle them, after they destroyed her office in a fight with each other. Of the three, {{p|Tepig}} ended up in {{adv|Black}}'s hands, while [[Cheren]] and [[Bianca]] received {{p|Snivy}} and {{p|Oshawott}}, respectively. She also issued them three individual copies of the [[Unova]] [[Pokédex]], but an accident left two of them broken, and as of yet Black's is the only one still functional.

====Pokémon====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Juniper
|pkmn=Minccino
|type1=Normal
|img=BW chapter adventures.png
|img_size=130px
|epnum=Black & White chapter (Adventures)
|epname=Unknown
|desc={{p|Minccino}} was used as a demonstration for catching Pokémon during Black's, Bianca's and Cheren's first day of their journey.}}

=====Given away=====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Black
|pkmn=Tepig
|gender=male
|type1=Fire
|img=Black Poka Adventures.png
|img_size=130px
|epnum=Black & White chapter (Adventures)
|epname=Unknown
|desc={{adv|Black}} chose this {{p|Tepig}} as his starter Pokémon in Nuvema Town. He nicknamed it [[Black (Adventures)#Poka|Poka]] (Japanese: ポカ ''Poka'').

Poka's known moves are {{m|Ember}} and {{m|Flame Charge}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Cheren
|pkmn=Snivy
|type1=Grass
|img=Cheren Snivy Adventures.png
|epnum=Black & White chapter (Adventures)
|epname=Unknown
|desc=Bianca gave {{p|Snivy}} to [[Cheren]] after retrieving the three Unova starters.

Snivy's only known move is {{m|Tackle}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Bianca
|pkmn=Oshawott
|type1=Water
|img=Bianca Oshawott Adventures.png
|epnum=Black & White chapter (Adventures)
|epname=Unknown
|desc=[[Bianca]] chose {{p|Oshawott}} after Black chose his Tepig and before she gave Snivy to Cheren.

Oshawott's known moves are {{m|Razor Shell}} and {{m|Tackle}}.}}

==Trivia==
* While Juniper is the first female professor in the games, she is not the first female professor in the anime. [[Professor Ivy]] of the [[Orange Archipelago]] takes this honor, having been introduced more than ten years prior to Juniper.
* Excluding Pokémon seen through hacking, Professor Juniper is the only regional Professor in the main series to own a Pokémon which is never given to either a protagonist or rival.
** However, [[Professor Oak]] had a whole team of Pokémon in secret coding for the [[Generation I]] games which was never used in the final copy.
* She is the only regional Professor shown to actually own the Pokémon presented in the game's introduction.
* She is the only NPC who demonstrates catching Pokémon who is seen to still possess the Pokémon after the demonstration. After Juniper catches the Patrat, it can be seen wandering about her laboratory.
* Like the professors before her, Professor Juniper is named after a tree.
* According to an NPC, Professor Juniper and her father were formerly {{tc|Backpacker}}s.

==Names==
{| align="left" style="background: #{{unova color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 3px solid #{{unova color}}"
|- align=center
! style="-moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px;" | Language
! style="-moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;" | Name
! style="-moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;" | Reference to
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Japanese
| アララギ博士 ''Dr. Araragi''
| アララギ ''Araragi'', {{wp|Taxus cuspidata|Japanese yew}}, or wild rocambole (old name).
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| English
| Prof. Aurea Juniper
| From {{wp|Juniper}}. Her given name might be derived from ''{{wp|Juniper|Juniperus}} chinensis Aurea'', the ''{{wp|Austrocedrus}}'' genus, or the ''{{wp|Aurea}}'' butterfly genus, akin to the ''{{wp|Araragi}}'' genus.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| French
| Prof. Keteleeria
| From ''{{wp|Keteleeria}}''.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| German
| Prof. Esche
| From ''Esche'', German word for {{wp|Fraxinus|Ash}}.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Italian
| Prof.ssa Aralia
| From ''{{wp|Aralia}}''.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Spanish
| Prof.ª Encina
| From ''encina'', Spanish word for {{wp|Quercus ilex|Holm Oak}}.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Korean
| 주박사 ''Ju-{{tt|baksa|Dr.}}''
| From 주목 (朱木) ''jumok'', Korean word for {{wp|Taxus cuspidata|Japanese yew}}.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan}})
| 紅豆杉博士 ''Dr. Hóngdòushān''
| May be derived from 東北紅豆杉 ''Dōngběi hóngdòushān'' ({{wp|Taxus cuspidata|Japanese yew}}). By itself, 紅豆杉 ''Hóngdòushān'' refers to the {{wp|Taxus chinensis|Chinese yew}}.
|}
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Talk:Generation V

2011-06-20T14:45:59Z

Ikarishipper900: /* Gym Leaders? */

{{forums notice|June 1, 2011}}

Serebii and Pokébeach are '''NOT OFFICIAL SOURCES'''. The webmasters themselves say their information is not confirmed and should not be taken as fact. The games are about to be released in a week, please be wary of all new information, rumors, and speculation that have unconfirmed or unofficial sources. This goes for all fansites. Bulbanews is also not an official source, but we will post all information '''with sources''' to their respective official location. Thanks for understanding.

==Any References?==
With the impending release of [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver]] in America, can someone keep an eye out for any in-game references to Gen. V? Much appreciated. [[User:The Jigglypuff Ninja|The Jigglypuff Ninja]] 01:04, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:I doubt there are any references to Gen V in HGSS. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 01:09, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::And I ''highly'' doubt that NoA would change the script to add such references in. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 01:09, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Any references will probably be in the new Ranger game. Although the Lock Capsule is probably related to something in Generation V.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 01:11, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::::It's a Gen IV event item. Likely gonna be for a Gen IV event. Think: what hasn't been released yet? Could be Celebi... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:04, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::At the risk of dragging this out too far (this is quickly becoming something that'd fit on the forums), hackers would have found a Celebi Event in the coding, but no one has. Add in that PokeBeach reports that it seems to have similar transfer data as the Manaphy Egg, and it seems like it's supposed to be transferred out of HGSS into a new game... but I digress. We have no proof either way.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 05:03, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::The question is... how would it be obtained in the first place? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:40, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

==Jumping the Gun a bit?==
Are you guys sure we aren't looking into this a bit too far? All we have for clues are that they announced a new game and a new *something*. Not to mention it says it's gonna be new on the DS. What's to be sure of all of that? For all we know, the new game could be MindCrystal, the silhouette could be a new Forme like the last 5 that were announced. The new game could be a wii sequel to Pokemon XD:Gale of Darkness. If we can't even have Pokemon evolved editing pages when they're in the titles of episodes, why can we just up and announce a new generation? I mean, Pokebeach even said the silhouette isn't Z, what makes anyone certain it's Generation V?[[User:SLE_aman|SLE_]][[User:SLE_aman/talk|aman]] 11:53, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:What does Pokebeach have to do with anything? We know this is Gen V because Masuda SAID it is a new Pokémon. Nothing in this article says that this Pokémon is Z. Because we don't know that. All we know is that it is a new Pokémon. To think otherwise... well, you're in denial big time. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 12:14, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::The original announcement talked about the popularity of Diamond and Pearl before saying this game will be set in a new region with new Pokémon. What more evidence do you need? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 12:36, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

:::Well, technically, the RPG announcement never explicitly said it would be main series. Even though Generation V Pokémon were hinted, it was never explicitly said that it was the full-fledged generation. It also never explicitly said it would be a pair, either. There are RPGs other than the main series, and they could use a side-series RPG to give Generation V-based cameos to increase anticipation for the full-fledged generation to come at a later date (much like Mystery Dungeon 1 did). Recent announcements pretty much excludes the possibility of it being a Ranger 4, but it's still possible that it could be a Mystery Dungeon 5 or something completely different than anything we've seen before. My [[$1|2¢]]: Odds are the TBA 2010 thing is not for the full-fledged Generation V. Especially if the RPG announcement turns out to be for a single. They've faked us out before, and even if the silhouette does turn out legitimate, it's probably still too early to be thinking full-fledged Generation V. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:19, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

::::Actually, I've seen a subb'ed version. Masuda specifically said "We're working on a new generation of pokémon" --[[User:Camzoman]]
::::Yeah. And nowhere in that did it explicitly say that was the TBA 2010 project. They can be working on a new generation of Pokémon, yet still announce and release side games relating mainly to the previous generation. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Camzoman, where exactly did you see this subbed version? I did not hear Masuda mention a "new generation" anywhere in the video - what he said was "we're developing a brand-new work for Pokemon." However, I don't think there's any denying at this point that it is indeed the new generation. The [http://www.corocoro.tv/pokerelease/index.html Corocoro site] doesn't seem to be implying that this is a side game (not that Game Freak makes side games to begin with). It's a new version(s), with a new setting, new Pokemon, new features... sounds like a new generation to me. :/ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 19:54, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Japanese doesn't have a plural so the "he only said one" argument doesn't hold. [[n:New Pokémon RPG announced|Just look at the information we have]]. It's obviously Generation V. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 12:12, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Anyway, the CoroCoro scans for Zoroark fit the silhouette from Pokémon Sunday.--[[User:Crazylegs24]]

== Why is this page protected? ==
Why is this page protected? --[[User:?????|Any]] [[User talk:?????|Questions]][[User:?????|?????]] 18:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:Think about it.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 18:37, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::<nowiki>*</nowiki>cough*Speculation*cough* [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 18:41, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Because someone is 100% likely going to put what they think the new Pokémon is, probably saying it's Mightyena's evolution or something, if it isn't protected. That is speculation, something that isn't allowed here in the mainspace. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::::It is not a good sign when a question like this needs to be asked.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We are the Void 22:43, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::That against us or against the users who'd make crappy speculative edits? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:22, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::It's against users who don't realise why it should be protected...--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We lie in wait...... 14:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::...same thing? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:29, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Arguable.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We lie in wait...... 13:13, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Would it not be better to make this page "semi-protected" so that only established users can edit? There are plenty of established users who are not administrators, whom I'm sure would want to contribute to such a monumental article. [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 09:55, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:That wouldn't stop speculation from incurring. If you have any confirmed evidence, ask for it here.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 10:12, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

== Generation V Pokémon Infobox, anyone? ==

I know you'll probably all find this pointless, but I decided to throw together a [[Template:PokémonInfoboxGenV|temporary infobox]] to use for the Generation V Pokémon articles. It's basically a stripped-down version of the regular infobox that leaves out all the fields for any technical stuff (Egg groups, EXP yield, Gender ratios, etc.) that's unlikely to be revealed until ''Pokémon V'' comes out later this year. I also created a [[User:Quagbert/Z (Pokémon)|user-subpage for the silhouetted mystery Pokémon]] that uses a [[Template:PokémonInfoboxGenVNoncat|non-categorizing version]] of this template.

''Thanks to {{u|PsychicRider}} for making me aware of the original non-categorizing Pokémon infobox.'' [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 00:49, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

==Masamitsu Hidaka==

Should [[Masamitsu Hidaka]] be mentioned since that interview kind of confirmed Generation V? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 05:50, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

== Unlink ==

Can somebody please unlink "Generation V Pokémon"? It's a redlink right now. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:52, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

== This just in! ==

Serebii.net just confirmed the first two Fifth Generation Pokémon! Go check it out! :) --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 14:21, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:Serebii.net didn't. Leaked scans did. Also, the first one was already revealed. The second one was revealed to be before it in their evolutionary line. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:22, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::I think yu're probably going to need to find this information from another source. It seems like the users here have some sort of vendetta against Serebii.--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 14:29, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::It is officially confirmed. It was from a different source. It was from scans. You can see bulbanews's draft. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::We don't have any vendetta against Serebii. He just isn't the source in this case - CoroCoro is. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:01, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Either way, it's confirmed right? I'd love to update the page, but it's locked. *ahem*
''[[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]]'' [[User:Chosen|-]] 15:15, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

[[File:CoroCoro March 1.jpg|thumb]]

Here's the picture! --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 15:19, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Alright, these two Pokémon have been offically confirmed by the leaked CoroCoro scans, but apparently it's still considered too early to put up the Bulbapedia articles for them. Is there some additional form of conformation that we're waiting for?

Anyway, I already have {{p|Zorua}} and {{p|Zoroark}} in my userspace ready to be moved to the main space when we're finally allowed to do so. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 17:07, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:It's probably due to lack of information. I assume that when its ability/abilities and/or base stats are revealed it will be moved. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 17:16, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::IIRC, none of that sort of information (especially base stats) was revealed for the Generation IV Pokémon until the actual release of Diamond/Pearl, or shortly before, though we still had mainspace articles for them anyway. This means it'd be months before we move Zorua/Zoroark into the mainspace. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 17:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Actually, according to serebii, they're supposed to be revealed next month. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:45, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

== Related Pokémon ==

On the page, it says that it has noteable links with the Riolu and Poochyena families. If it's definitely pure dark type then just ignore this, but couldn't it be an alternative to the Vulpix family? --[[User:Herachu|Herachu]] 22:07, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
: I agree. --[[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|i herd u liek Treakos?]] 00:10, 12 February 2010 (UTC) [[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Kimori-]][[User talk:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Hinoarashi]]

== New Pokémon template ==

Based partly on the {{template|DP episode}} template, I've decided to make a [[Template:NewPokémon|new Pokémon template]] to use the next time a new Pokémon is revealed. The code would go like this:
<pre>
{{subst:NewPokémon|main|Jp. Katakana name|Romanized Jp. name|
typen= (number of types) |
type1= (first type) |
type2= (second type) |
pron= (name's pronunciation) |
jspecies= (species in Japanese) |
species= (species, aka "____ Pokémon")
image= (filename of image) |
caption= (caption for said image) |
height-m= (height in meters) |
weight-kg= (weight in kilograms) |
prev= (previous Pokémon's (i.e. pre-evolution) name, Arceus by default) |
prevnum= (previous Pokémon's National Dex #, 493 by default) |
next= (next Pokémon's (i.e. evolved form) name, Bulbasaur by default) |
nextnum= (next Pokémon's National Dex #, 001 by default) |
}}
</pre>
Those who want to use this template for their own userspace should replace "main" in the top line with "user", so that those user sub-pages aren't categorized with the genuine Pokémon articles in the main space. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 01:04, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

== Take away part in introduction ==

It says that it is unknown whether the new games will be contemporaneous with any of the other games. I beg to differ. Pokemon Sunday officially stated that Zoroark lives in a "New Area". Or is it just saying that it is unknown whether it will be possible to travel to another region? Spenfen
:Contemporaneous means at the same time. Like how RBY and RSE are at the same time, and so is GSC and DPPt. It has nothing to do with location.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 18:08, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

== Japanese Gen. 5 page ==
I have a good link to a japanese page on the Generation 5 games here: [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/game/g100215_03.html].--[[User:Christopher Costello|Christopher Costello]] 01:14, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
:That's kinda where we got all of our information. Pokémon.co.jp and the Japanese Pokémon variety shows. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:41, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

== Interwiki link to Pokéteca ==

Now that there's an article about [[:es:Quinta Generación|Generation V on Pokéteca]], can someone add it the interwiki link to it, please? --[[User:Blaziken257|'''Blaz''']][[User talk:Blaziken257|'''iken''']][[Special:Contributions/Blaziken257|'''257''']] 03:19, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

== Two New Generation V Pokémon Scan !!! ==

Hey guys, I got this '''EPIC''' magazine scan featuring two new evolutions of Delibird and Farfetch'd from Generation V and it seems 100% real. {{unsigned|Adyniz}}
:It's not. Notice how I protected the hell out of those names ''before Zoroark and Zorua were revealed''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:08, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::Does that mean this scan is a fake one? --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 07:11, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:::The screenshot is obviously fake if you couldn't tell. That should have given it away easily. So yes, it is fake. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 07:29, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Lol, man I am dumb.
::::'''Source''': http://www.pokemondarkay.net/{{unsigned|Adyniz}}
:::::Looks pretty real. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 11:00, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Well it may look real but I've seen things in my days done in Photoshop that looked very real. Can someone translate or is there even any legit source? I don't read Spanish nor Japanese. [[User:.insomniac.|inso]]m[[User_talk:.insomniac.|niac]] 11:05, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Since it's already been confirmed as fake, please take further discussion regarding the scan to the {{tt|forums|Not the Bulbapedia forum.}}. Thanks, - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 11:08, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

== [[Nintendo 3DS]] ==

It's very likely that these new games will be on the 3DS, so can someone remove the statement saying that the games ''will'' be released on the regular DS?--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 00:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
:[[Generation II]] ahoy. The press release said DS. Not 3DS. 3DS comes out NEXT YEAR. These come out THIS YEAR. Nintendo's not ''stupid''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:54, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
::It could be released before Christmas in Japan so there is the potential for the game to be on 3DS. But that's purely guesswork at the moment and it could still be a DS game even if the 3DS is implemented so we go with the only source on the matter - the original announcement which said it will be on the DS. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 11:27, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Or, as in Generation II, the games could be programmed with 3DS enhancements, yet still be playable on the DS. Nonetheless, until something official states that they will utilize the 3DS, any mention of it is speculation at best. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:23, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::Technically, TTEchidna, the page that announced the 3DS stated that it would be released sometime between now and next April, so that doesn't mean next year.
[[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 23:50, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

== Current Length ==

The days have weird numbers, can an administrator fix them? Thanks. [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 21:23, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:They're automatically calculated by the template... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:38, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
::But the games haven't been released yet. I think it's too early to say that Generation V has started. [[User:Fudgenuggets|Fudgenuggets]] 22:16, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:::It hasn't started yet. It starts in 0.8 days according to those numbers. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 03:22, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
::::It's because it's calculated weirdly. Once we have a ''date'', we'll put that in, and it'll look right. Until then, DECIMALLLLLLLLLL '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:34, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

== Uploaded player sprite ==

[[File:GenV.player.front.png‎]] [[File:GenV.player.side.png‎]]

I got the player sprite and uploaded it to the archives... I guess if someone can find a place for it on the article, well, there it is!

Actually, now that I see them side-by-side, it looks like the front-facing sprite on the left is the male character while the right-facing sprite on the right is the female character. Any ideas? - [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] 02:01, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:1) This is the article for Gen V in general, not just Black and White.
:2) Do we have the overworld sprites from the past games anywhere? The characters themselves will get articles eventually but we will hopefully have Sugimori artwork released around the time that happens. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 23:09, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
::We do, but... mostly fronts. And those are animated. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:02, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, I'm sure there's a home for those sprites... right? :) - [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] 06:58, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== About the day count... ==

You should set it to zero, I'm not sure we'll have Pokémon B&W in -0.840277777778 days. --[[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]] 12:53, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
:But we all wish we did... [[User:Thermorules123|Thermorules123]] 11:32, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
::You mean you didn't get your game 0.840277777778 days ago? Never mind, I hacked the template to make it say better stuff. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 12:10, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:::As long as you didn't break the template on the other four generations. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:56, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
::::I'm fairly certain I didn't. Fixed it through an optional extra parameter. Seeing as the parameter doesn't exist on the other four pages, nothing should have broken. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:19, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

== Gen 4 compatability ==

Shouldn't it be noted that this has been confirmed? (The upcoming Flare Blitz Entei and co can do something in gen 5) {{unsigned|Deuxhero}}
:makes sense, but since it's not officially confirmed, {{tt|we can't include it.|That's Bulbapedia's standard.}} [[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] 12:44, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::What do you mean, it hasn't been officially confirmed? It's been confirmed that the shiny legendary gerbils unlock something in BW, meaning that they are transferable to aforementioned games. Serebii.net reported on this last month. Oh wait, let me guess- Serebii.net isn't what you consider a reliable source despite only being wrong about stuff they explicitly said they weren't sure about in the first place. We also didn't add all the english names for all the HGSS stuff until it came out and proved him right. When are you guys gonna swallow your pride and admit that Serebii.net is probably the most reliable source of Pokémon information in the internet? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 14:01, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::''The most reliable source of Pokémon information in the internet?'', {{tt|Hahahaha, I don't think so|I don't want to go off-topic otherwise it will be long debate}}. Anyway, wait for an official announcement before doing/adding anything. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 14:16, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::If I recall though it was indeed confirmed by an official source that the legendary beasts could unlock something in BW... apparently someone got their hands on the pamphlet that you get for pre-ordering the ticket and it states that the beasts unlock stuff in BW. Not sure if there's a scan of it anywhere though, I would refrain from putting it on the page if it's just his personal speculation again. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 15:50, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::If it is added, be sure not to assume HOW the games are compatible; it's possible they could unlock something through a method other than trading or transferring. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:22, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Just as a clarification, an official site has yet to specifically state "generation 4 can trade in some way with generation 5". The pamphlet in question can be seen in entirety [http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/image/tickets/print/guide.pdf here]. On page 3 there is a small section that talks about Pokemon Black/White and the last sentence of that section mentions that the 3 have a secret. This was taken to mean that the 3 unlock something in B/W obviously because it is mentioned inside the B/W section and therefore probably are able to be traded to Gen 5 in some way. Anyways, that was the logic behind "Gen 4 and 5 compatibility confirmed." Whether that is a good enough reason to be added on here or not, I don't know :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 16:39, 9 May 2010 (UTC))
:::::::There's ''also'' that little issue of them being ON THE DS. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:54, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
I get the concept of compatability with Gen4 but whats going to happen to the Pokedex when you get aGen5 Pokemon on a Gen4 game?([[User: Munchy Lax]] 20:33,3 June 2010 (EST)
:Well you obviously won't be able to take anything that wasn't in Gen IV back to a gen IV game. If it's a direct trade then it'll be like the time capsule in generation II. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 00:44, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

== Starters ==

Here's the image from Pokémon Sunday: [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 01:49, 9 May 2010 (UTC) [[File:PokéSun May09 10.png|thumb|right]]

I can guess that the Grass Type is a Bird of Parodise Pokemon, as in the plant 'Bird of Parodise,' and also they had already done Bird based starters for [[Torchic|Fire]] and [[Piplup|Water]], and not yet Grass. If this could be true when revealed, then it will certainly complete the Bird Starters just like the Lizard Starters of [[Treeko|Grass]],[[Charmander|Fire]] and [[Totodile|Water]].
The Fire Type could may as well be a piglet for it's curley tail, and the Water Type could be another Amphibian Pokemon like [[Mudkip]]. These are just guesses, but what do you think? [[User:Cynthia149]] 17:07, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:I think that you need to take your speculation to the forums. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 16:35, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Just for the heck of it, I have a [[User:Quagbert/No.494 (Pokémon)|draft article for the Grass starter]], which I created using the template I mentioned above. I also have startup code to create the Fire and Water starters' articles using this same template, if anyone's interested:
<pre>
Fire Starter:
{{subst:NewPokémon|main|日本語名|JP Name
|species=
|typen=1|type1=Fire
|image=
|art=|caption=Scan from [[CoroCoro]]
|height-m=
|weight-kg=
|prev=(grass starter)|next=water starter)}}

Water Starter:
{{subst:NewPokémon|main|日本語名|JP Name
|species=
|typen=1|type1=Water
|image=
|art=|caption=Scan from [[CoroCoro]]
|height-m=
|weight-kg=
|prev=(fire starter)|next=Zorua}}
</pre>
[[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 01:19, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

For the curious, from left to right its the Grass-type, the Fire-type, and the Water-type. [http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/05/12/mystery_pokemon_detailed/ Here]. Still no names or pics other though. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 14:29, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:There's this great site called Bulbanews that has already reported that information - and with pictures, too! [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 16:54, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::Excuuuuse me for not noticing. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 18:07, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== "Both are canine Pokémon," ==

By which the article presumably means ''vulpine''; canine refers to dogs but Zoroa and Zoroark are/will be fox Pokémon. [[User:Smithers888|Smithers888]] 04:10, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:Foxes are canine. Ish. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:09, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canidae - Canini and Vulpini are separate members of Canidae --[[User:Grinnz|Grinnz]] 18:59, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::: I had something but might as well just ask. Aren't dogs actually Lupine, if we're going Vulpine for foxes.--[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 19:05, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

isnt lupine for wolves Iirc ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:27, 12 May 2010 (UTC))
: Dogs are in the same family as wolves. Canis Lupus, the dog is only further distinguished by Canis Lupis familiaris. But even still Canine could refer to Canidae which is what Foxes/Dogs/wolves are in. The only difference is Foxes are further classified as "Vulpine" and if we follow suit, dogs/wolves would be Lupine not Canine. And it did say some foxes (while not true foxes) could still be under the Canis Genus if that's where the Canine name comes from. But again while Canine might refer to dogs specifically, isn't that more of a general consensus, rather than a scientific consensus? I'm going scientific here, if people want to be so correct with the whole Vulpine/Canine argument. -[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 19:36, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::Who cares, really. That section'll be gone by the end of the year. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:56, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== Older PCs ==

[http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/05/12/mystery_pokemon_detailed/ Apparently], artwork shown in Coro Coro comics indicates that the Player characters aren't kids like previous generations, but are a bit older and appear to be young adults. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 14:31, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== well heres the pics ==

I have a corocoro scan of the player characters.....

[[File:User373931 pic151409 1273683476.png|thumb|right|here they are]]
([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:17, 12 May 2010 (UTC))
:The scan is from Pokebeach. I think we'd prefer it if it was your own scan. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 18:25, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::Well, the beach is our buddy, too. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:24, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== New Pokémon? ==

I found this online. It has the Pokémon Sunday picture in the corner. Does anybody know if this is the real deal or a scam?
http://nd03.blog.cz/294/620/14fe8a949a_61909769_o2.jpg
[[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 19:19, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

bleh...looks fake ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:25, 12 May 2010 (UTC))
:Old and fake. (btw: the text on the bottom says "the Pokemon that grasps the key to the Ruler of Illusions: Z!") [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:28, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::Fail. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:54, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== New Pokémon (CoroCoro scan) ==

Came here to upload the scan, but apparently someone else did but didn't do anything with it. Here it is: [[File:Corocoro7.jpg|right|thumb]]
This info should probably be put into the main article. [[User:Marluxia.Kyoshu|Marluxia.Kyoshu]] 20:36, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:It's been used on News. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 20:42, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== More info! ==

*Zorua has the Illusion ability.
*Mijumaru is 0.5m tall and weighs 5.9kg. It also has the Torrent ability.
*Tsutaaja is 0.6m tall and weighs 8.1kg. It also has the Overgrow ability.
*Pokabu is 0.6m tall and weighs 9.9kg. It also has the Blaze ability.
These should be added to the Pokémon articles--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 10:05, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== On the use of unconfirmed information ==

<strike>We seem to have taken a whole bunch of unconfirmed information as fact here, and as it's generally not Bulbapedia policy to do so, it somewhat bothers me.

For the record, here is a list of information, much of which has been added to Bulbapedia, that I have not seen in the CoroCoro pages or any other official source (though if you have official sources with this that I have missed, please, by all means, link me):
*The name "Tsutaaja," as well as all info on it beyond the fact that it is at least partly Grass-type
*The name "Pokabu," as well as all info on it beyond the fact that it is at least partly Fire-type
*The name "Mijumaru," as well as all info on it beyond the fact that it is at least partly Water-type
*"Hiun City"
*Zoroark's ability, "Illusion"
*Those two new attacks whose names I can't be bothered to remember right now (Trickery and Claw Sharpen or something?)
*The method by which to obtain Zoroark
I have seen ''none'' of this come from official sources, only from fansites, blogs, and forums. (Hell, I could have sworn that I saw some of this in a 2ch speculation thread back in March.) The justification to their validity seems to be that the random anonymous person who posted this information on 2ch was right about other information before it was leaked, so he must be right now - but that reasoning hasn't been enough in past cases, has it?

I really wish we had kept the above-mentioned facts off of Bulbapedia until they were confirmed, but here they are. I personally think they should be removed (and the starters' pages moved into TTE's userspace or something) until they are confirmed, but a reasonable compromise, I think, would be to tag all articles that mention this information with an "unconfirmed" tag of some sort (I seem to remember a template for one, though I can't find it now...).

Any thoughts?</strike> [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 18:23, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:They're all from CoroCoro. It's pretty undeniable. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 18:40, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:Scratch that, I found the CoroCoro scans that apparently no one cared to share which confirmed all of this. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 18:42, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Starter Region ==

i would just like to say that, because of the set-up of the page, it looks like one or the regions in Gen. V is Starters. I would fix it myself, but I'm not an Admin. could an admin please change it show it looks like this

<nowiki>
==Regions==
===Isshu===
==Starters==</nowiki>

instead of this

<nowiki>
==Regions==
===Isshu===
===Starters===</nowiki> thank-you [[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] 19:54, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:If you take a look at the table of contents, you'll see that "Starter Pokémon" is a lower heading than "Isshu", as it should be, to indicate that those are the Starter Pokémon of Isshu. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:51, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
::i guess that's true. the actual part of the article is what made me confused. But looking at the Table of Contents, it is set up correctly.[[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] 23:42, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Never too early to have the article set up like the rest. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:53, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

==Legendary Pokémon==
I saw two new Pokémon looks like the legendaries at the Pokémon english official site (names+artworks). Their names are Reshiram and Zekrom. I don't know if these informations are useful but... -[[User:Caciulacdlac|Caciulacdlac]]
:Already a page on Bulbanews. Also, since it's breaking news, admins, may not have had time to add it in. [[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] 18:03, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
:If anyone's interested, I have userspace draft articles for [[User:Quagbert/Reshiram|Reshiram]] and [[User:Quagbert/Zekrom|Zekrom]]. I just made them as draft articles since I'm not sure if it's appropriate yet to put them in the mainspace, but when it is, any admin is free to move them (or give me the OK to do so). [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 20:40, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
:I may as well mention that {{user|Jello}} also has draft articles as well: [[User:Jello/Sandbox/Reshiram (Pokémon)|Reshiram]], [[User:Jello/Sandbox/Zekrom (Pokémon)|Zekrom]] [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 20:47, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
::Hi, I'm new here, but I just wanted to add a little bit of information about the names, if it hasn't been done already. In Reshiram's name, the shiramu (シラム) comes from [http://dic.yahoo.co.jp/dsearch?enc=UTF-8&p=%E7%99%BD%E3%82%80&stype=0&dtype=0 shiramu (白む)] which means "turning white" or "growing light". In Zekrom's name, the kuromu (クロム) comes from [http://dic.yahoo.co.jp/dsearch?enc=UTF-8&p=%E9%BB%92%E3%82%80&stype=0&dtype=0 kuromu (黒む)] which means "turning black" or "tinged with darkness". They're used especially with regards to the sky, for example, "the sky grows light at dawn" or "the sky is tinged with darkness at night". Hope that helps a little. [[User:AmaranthSparrow|AmaranthSparrow]] 01:31, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh, and just speculating, but the Re- and Ze- could come from rei (レイ) and zero (ゼロ), two pronunciations of rei (零), which obviously means "zero". [[User:AmaranthSparrow|AmaranthSparrow]] 01:43, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
::::How come nobody's yet made the articles for Reshiram and Zekrom yet? And yet people who DO create articles at strange names to get around it, they just get deleted. Why not just move them to the proper names? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 01:50, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::We're not satisfied with them yet. And considering tomorrow's PSunday, we'll probably get more than enough data. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:51, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::We need to put informations of the two legendaries fast, my friends are asking more things about them but I just have the basic. '''[[User:Blaze of Shadow|Blaze of Shadow]]
:::::::We can't get more info yet Blaze, tell your friends to wait.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 04:47, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
we dont even know their secondary or primary types, we only know that they are part dragon type, so not even the most basic info we have, the article would be only a picture with nothing else.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 07:39, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
:That is all we knew about Zoroark when he was first revealed. Type and picture. Everything else was blank. [[User:Myzou|Myzou]] 08:46, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
::He was also the first Gen. V Pokémon revealed, which is why he was such a big deal. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 14:50, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

== Five Known Pokemon? ==

The article says that five Generation V Pokemon are known, but with the announcement yesterday, seven are known. It even mentions Reshiram and Zekrom in the article. Can an admin make the edit?--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 03:52, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
:And the Zekrom page is exist. Please fix this too. -[[User:Caciulacdlac|Caciulacdlac]]
::Yeah, perhaps semi-protection would be smarter here if the admins can't afford to be on top of this at all times. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 15:46, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:::The template uses the number of pages to find how many are new. After that, you have to purge the content by pressing the clock by your username to make it show seven. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:49, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::::<s>I see. So the reason it reads five instead of seven is that there are no articles for Zekrom and Reshiram, and the reason there are no articles for them is because they are create-protected. The admins couldn't just create the pages and protect them? [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 15:59, 1 June 2010 (UTC</s>
:::::Didn't realize they'd been created. I've purged the content, but it still reads five. Maybe the categories haven't been added to the new legendaries' articles? [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 16:01, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::It's likely because of your cache, maybe? The generation infobox reads new Pokemon as the amount of articles in [[:Category:Generation V Pokémon]], it doesn't need to be manually updated. We apologize for any inconvenience if we don't have new Pokemon articles up within the day they're revealed- we'd like to make sure that our articles aren't sloppily put together and include all the known info... which can be difficult at times and make us go "Hm, is one line of text and a mostly-unfilled infobox really worth an article?". Not the point, I know, but I'd just like to point that out. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 17:12, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
No, that's not it at all. I've taken a look at the source code, and it actually reads "Currently, five Generation V Pokémon are known." No template or anything. This needs to be changed. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 19:58, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:OH! You're talking about the infobox! We've been talking about the specific text in the article, under the "Currently known Pokémon" section. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 20:00, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

==The Order==

Someone have thinged what is the right order of Zoroa,Zoroark,Reshiram and Zekram? when the numbers be show we need to make the right order. [[User:Blaze of Shadow]] 23:30, 1 June 2010
:Please make more sense.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 05:02, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::We don't know what numbers they are because we don't know how high the regional dex is going to go. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:56, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I don't think Blaze is talking about specific dex numbers, just general placement, i.e. we can assume that Zekrom and Reshiram will be near the end of the dex, but we can't confirm anything right now. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 14:33, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

==July 2010 New Pokémon==
I just whipped a [[User:Quagbert/Chiraamii (Pokémon)|draft article for Chirāmī]] based on the scans that just leaked out. I only did Chirāmī since that's the only one we have a decent amount of clear info on. Perhaps in the future we may want to take any more new Gen V Pokémon discussion {{tt|over here|Category talk:Generation V Pokémon}} and leave this talk page for other Gen V stuff, though that just my suggestion. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 12:05, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

== Hiragana vs. Kanji ==

"''Kanji are now used in game menus and text, in addition to the hiragana and katakana used in the previous four generations.''" >> Not saying that this statement is false but could someone point me to a known instance of the games where kanji is used more prominently? I know that it has been used for some things already since Gen I, like the prices in the Japanese versions using the kanji for yen, but this seems to refer to a greater use of the kanji throughout the dialogues... [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 17:45, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:If I recall correctly, Colo/XD also uses kanji... I think PBR and Stadium ''miiight'', but I'm not sure. There's also kanji in the TCG GB games. I might be missing a few...
:However, this is the first time that a main series handheld game has used kanji in dialogue- the only screenshot I can recall seeing it though was the intro with [http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/#/characters/characters02.html Prof Araragi and Chirami]. It's assumed to be a toggle of sorts seeing as there's other dialogue screenshots with just kana. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 17:55, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
::I was referring specifically to BW, though, but thanks for the info you provided. xD Well, it does really seem to be an optional element, since I didn't notice kanji in any of the footage before, not even that one of Prof. Araragi and Chiramii... [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 18:26, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Yes, according to the new Iwata Asks[http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/interview/irbj/vol1/index.html#list] there is going to be both a hiragana mode and a kanji mode. I suggest changing "''Kanji are now used in game menus and text, in addition to the hiragana and katakana used in the previous four generations.''" to something like "''Aside from the usual game menus and text in {{wp|hiragana}} and {{wp|katakana}}, there is now also the option of a {{wp|kanji}} mode. While hiragana and katakana made the Pokémon series accessible to elementary school kids, the optional texts mixed with kanji now also make the games easier to pick up for older teens and adults.''" As opposed to the present version, this makes clear that there is the '''option''' of kanji, and explains the effects of the new kanji mode to those unknown to the Japanese writing system. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 12:46, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

== Named after colors ==

Trivia mentions that black and white are colors, technically they're not colors. I think it should be reworded to say that the titles were the first since Generation I (or II, since gold and silver can be colors) to not be named after a gemstone or a mineral. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 18:41, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:Technically, they '''are''' colors. Technically, they are not hues - they are shades. This terminology is used in most artistic endeavors, except lighting, where white and black are the presence or absence of light, but that's neither here nor there. These are colors. However, I agree that silver and gold are also colors, but I think it's pretty clear what was meant in the article. [[User:Jazzmoth|Jazzmoth]] 14:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

== Pokemon currently known ==

By my latest tally, including the pokemon recently released, their are now about 20 with names and around 3 more that still remain unnamed, should anyone make an edit of this. {{unsigned|InferSizMamoMagne}}
:There are fourteen named Pokémon; these are the ones that are counted. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:49, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

i want to add koromori. but it wont let me [[User:ArceusLX|arceusLX leveled up!]] 19:46, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:The page name has been protected because we know too little about the subject. You can quit spamming pages now, please. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:48, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

== The Picture ==

I'm just wondering if instead of the logos of Black and White getting put as the picture, I think that someone should just put the Japanese boxart pictures on.-- [[User:lilkaykaygal|lilkaykaygal]] 7:34, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
:The boxart is on the {{game|Black and White|s}} article. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:52, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

== advances in gameplay ==
i need to add that you can play triple battles in pokemon black and white. [[User:ArceusLX|arceusLX leveled up!]] 19:37, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:Or someone else could add it when we know more about it. Why do ''you'' need to add it?--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 01:38, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:Oh, nevermind, someone already put it in.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 01:40, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:Oh, and please fix the triple battles link - it points to ''Double_battle#Triple_battle'' as of now, while the correct would be ''Double_battle#Triple_battle'''s''''' --'''HTMLCODER.exe@bulbapedia$_ [[User:HTMLCODER.exe|/usr]][[Special:Contributions/HTMLCODER.exe|/bin]][[User_talk:HTMLCODER.exe|/apache2]] -k restart''' 11:25, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== Starter Evos ==

I MIGHT have found the final evolutions of the starters, but they are probably fake.

Here they are: File:GenVStarterEvos.png

[[User:Mewtwo777|I am Darth Mewtwo... Fear me, and my team made entirely of Mewtwo!!!]] 17:14, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
:They're fake. (and the picture has been deleted on the Archives) <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:18, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

== NGamer - 157? ==

In the most recent issue of NGamer magazine UK, they said there would be 157 new Pokémon in B/W. I don't know where they could have gotten that possible fact from, but it ought to be looked into, in the event that they are telling the truth. However, NGamer have been known to put rumors down as fact, and I would predict this is false. [[User:Torngentleman2|MAMOSWINEPwnz! (Torngentleman2)]] 18:37, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
: It is a rumor that's been circulating for a while, but there hasn't been any actual evidence I'm yet aware of. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 18:59, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

==season==
since seasons were confirmed to be in gen V could someone add that to this generations changes?[[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 20:53, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

== Colours ==

Wow, this is totally random and pointless, but I wanted to point out that the thing about these being the first games named after colours since G1 is inaccurate. All the games have been based off of colours, however, those colours also tend to be other things (metals and gems, etc.). For example, silver is a colour, gold is a colour, ruby is bright red, as it's counterparts sapphire and emerald to blue and green respectively, and so forth. I just think that it's kinda pointless to put that information int he trivia when it's not exactly true. But feel free to debate with me, I'm open for people trying to change my mind. :D

[[User:Makuta Zero|Makuta Zero]] 06:21, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

== Advances in Gameplay ==

I think that it should include that seasons will be in the games. --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 15:35, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

== Monochrome generation? ==

its not monochrome monochrome is 1 color black and white is already 2 it should be called the shade generation since they already said third would be grey {{Unsigned|Ares5566}}
:I'd like to inform you of a few things
:1. Sign your comments. ALWAYS

:2. "Pokémon Gre(a)y" was never confirmed

:3. Monochrome doesn't mean 1 color. It means shades of 1 color. so Monochrome and Shade are the exact same thing. [[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] 02:49, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

::Just how Generation III was the Advanced Gen, why isnt this the Rebirth Gen? That is what is really is. They are having fresh new starts. Also, monochrome only applies to three games. Speculation shows that we have high chances of getting an Emerald remake (ranberth at youtbue has evidenece). In 2012, 10 anivesity; they like to remake at that time. Also, im reseaching that we might get more Gen I remakes due to 15th anivesrity. The biggest hint is that every region has included Kanto.Here is my guess...

::*2011-Black and White
::*2012-Grey
::*2012-Emerald remake
::*2013-Gen I remakes
::(they will more spaced out)
::So, with that said, i want to vote on a name! --[[User:Shaymin Master426|Shaymin Master426]] 06:01, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Monochrome is accurate for now. If there are Hoenn remakes, the name can be changed. It's called what fans have chosen, and for now it's monochrome. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:17, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Needs Updated ==

This page is outdated. It needs to get updated with the latest info that has since been confirmed by last month's CoroCoro, and reconfirmed by both Pokemon Sunday & the official Site.
[[User:Shinji-San|Shinji-San]] 01:06, 24 August 2010 (UTC)Shinji-San

== The fan name is wrong ==

The page says they call it the "monochrome generation".I am an Art Major at Lord Fairfax Community College,and that name makes no sense.Monochrome "only 1 color".There are 2 versions,and also black and white are not colors.They are refered to as neutrals in art(which is the only side that has an argument in color).Also,black is the abscense of color,and white is the combination of all percieved color.That name is completely inaccurate,and should be removed from the article because it does not really relate. {{unsigned|Slyver333}}
:According to Wikipedia's article on {{wp|Monochrome}}, "For an image, the term monochrome is usually taken to mean the same as black-and-white or, more likely, grayscale..." Therefore monochrome is not incorrect here. Also, if it's here, it probably means it was used on some Japanese fansite--just because it's not "right" in art, doesn't mean it can't be used as a fan term. --[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 02:24, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
::Plus, black and white ARE colors - they aren't hues, but they are colors. In art terms, they are technically called shades and tints, respectively. Black is a shade of any color, and white is a tint of any color. As long as you're not talking about light, that makes them both colors. (When discussing colors of light, it is acceptable to refer to white as a combination of all frequencies, and black as the absence of all frequencies, but we're not in optics.) I don't know what you're art teachers are telling you, Slyver, but I'd double check your facts before trying to correct people. Different schools of thought use different terminology, and although I've never heard of the terms you use, I know the ones I learned are widely accepted. Long story short, monochrome is an acceptable term for this generation. (Monochrome can also refer to any range of shades, tints, and tones that have a single hue as their base.) [[User:Jazzmoth|ʝɑzzmotɦ]] [[User talk:Jazzmoth|❝❞]][[Special:Contributions/Jazzmoth|✎]] 21:38, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

== Number of new pokes. ==

One of the new commericals claimed over 100 new pokes ([http://pokebeach.com/2010/08/black-white-wii-commercials-reveal-many-new-scenes Pokebeach says so anyways]) would be introduced. Should we change the "Pokémon" field in the template to reflect that? Also the info on communications with gen 4 is outdated. --[[User:Deuxhero|Deuxhero]] 01:06, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

== Anthing for Trivia? ==

1.I think that with the information we have so far, we should be able to come up with some stuff for the section, at least for when it becomes editable to regular users. I noticed that this is the first Generation to not have a game where you (presumably) can't go to the Kanto region (as in Generation III, there are the Gen. I remakes, Generation IV has HeartGold and SoulSilver, where you can visit Kanto after beating the Elite Four).

2. I was wondering if anyone thinks they may make a Ruby/Sapphire remake, because Gen. III wasn't that much less advanced in terms of graphics and mechanics, so making a remake would be somewhat pointless, as you could just as easily buy the original, and considering they would have to put a lot of work into making a game that would be more or less the same in most ways(you can tell the added material in LG/FR and HG/SS is obviously needed or at least very different).

3. The new Japanese commercials for Black & White reveal another new team (as expected) and what looks like some sort of conversation thing where you get an up close look who you're talking to. Any comments?

Please respond if you would like. --[[User:BeeBwakka|BeeBwakka]] 23:43, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:# Trivia sections aren't things that need to be filled. No-one should ever be goining around looking at a page and trying to add trivia just because the trivia section is short.
:# Talk pages aren't for general discussion. RS remake talk should be taken to {{bmgf|56930|this thread on the forums}}.
:# Can you get pictures of the commercials? It would help for confirming details. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 00:16, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:::It's far too early to say that anything won't happen in the next four years. Yes, the chances of revisiting Kanto are less likely this time around but anything could happen in the games after BW, especially with the 3DS (which any RS remakes would be on). --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 01:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I just joined so I'm new to this stuff. --[[User:BeeBwakka|BeeBwakka]] 12:29, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==

Akinator ([http://www.akinator.com here]), is a website where Akinator (the character) tries to guess any character you're thinking of (by yes-no-maybe questions). It (the site) may be a little too small to be notable (though mijumaru alone has already been tried over 140 times) but it *already* has a question "Is your character from the fifth generation of Pokemon". [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 20:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:I don't think it would be trivia, unless it was a big site. If it should be, it should be noted that they misspelled Pokémon. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 20:37, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::Oh god, not that thing...damn genie.. I don't think it would be trivia either...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 20:42, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Generation Length ==

Does anyone mind correcting the generation length? It says "-5 days". --[[User:MCRMY119|-DH]] 21:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:Five days until, at that time. Now it says -1, because it's released on Saturday, also known as, you know... tomorrow. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:33, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

== All Pokemon Revealed. ==

http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml[[User:Umitencho|Umitencho]] 19:17, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
:Serebii's not an official source. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 19:24, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Gen V framerate ==

Shall we mention it? (For anyone curious: 30 overworld, 60 battles, title screen, 2D menus, 15 opening) [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 15:18, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Do you want a title screen pic like all the generations before it? ==

Just asking. If needed, I'll produce these. [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 13:31, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
:Yeeeahh. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:52, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
::Feel free to pick the one which's better. (http://s1096.photobucket.com/albums/g329/Jarooda/Bulbapedia%20stuff/) (That's my Photobucket!) [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 12:10, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh, you're Jarooda? Did not know. Um, the first and the fourth are good. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 12:14, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
::::What should I name them in Bulbagarden Archives? [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 12:35, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::The second and the third actually have smoother edges, but this your call, Trom. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 12:38, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::Did it. What do you guys think? [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 01:50, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::I guess they do, but I liked the dragons' poses better in the first and fourth :/ —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:21, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

== Useful source? ==

I accidentally came across this website which appears to reveal the trademarked romanji of the 646 'official' Pokémon as of now, as well as some insight on to their name origins. Is this official? --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 09:36, 8 November 2010 (UTC) [http://park3.wakwak.com/~pokepale/zukan/no/1_1_25.htm]
:It's a fan site I think, like it says on the main page "This site is Japanese Pokemon Fan Site.". [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 09:41, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 09:44, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

== Why some classics arent in the regionnal dex ==

some classics (magicarp, pikachu, geodude, abra, etc.) dont appear in isshu. why?

I think thats because they are far away from kanto/jotho/hoenn/sinnoh. maybe the pokemons of gen5 will be the standards for 3 other gens. {{unsigned|Grhaal0}}
:Game Freak has already stated that the reason old Pokémon aren't included is to give all players a fresh, new experience when playing the games. Your suggestion is speculation, which is rarely allowed and certainly doesn't take precedence over [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Wordofgod word of god]. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 15:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
::That brings up the question of "Why did they include old Pokemon at all". Surely a new game, set supposedly in a place half the globe away from previous games wouldn't have all these old Pokemon found in it.--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 16:22, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
:::I've already explained to you Mackinz, the real world has some species which live in far away places (see rats, mosquitoes, etc.). I don't mean to offend, but if you're trying to bring up another debate over Isshu's basis/motif, this isn't the place. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 21:27, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Not trying to start a debate. Just can't figure out for the life of me why Paras would be in New York. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 20:12, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::Guys this disscussion needs to go to the forums. Stop cluttering the talk page. Please and Thank you [[User:Pokemaster97|Pokemaster97]] 20:16, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
== New Catchable Pokémon from Old Generations==
You know, a lot of Pokémon in these games, although from previous generations, is the first time they are catchable in the wild (without hacks, of course), like Metagross, Kingdra, Mamoswine, Crobat, etc. Is that worth noting? [[User:TFSpock|TFSpock]] 00:47, 4 December 2010 (UTC)TFSpock

== Wrong Pokémon Count ==
I find this page is within the category page of Generation V Pokémon. I post here, though, since this affects the number of new Pokémon in the summary of Generation V (the one that has the screenshot, main games, region introduced, etc).
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:SLE_aman/fanhax
- [[User:Chaotic iak|Chaotic iak]] 05:26, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
:That page was using templates which categorise. I've replaced them with ones that don't categorise or replaced them with the relevant hardcode and removed the categories. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:49, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

== Live Caster ==

Can anyone explain what it is? It's not in the article. --[[User:BeeBwakka|Bee § Bwakka♂]] ''([[User talk:BeeBwakka|meh talk]])'' 02:24, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
:Bulbapedia has [[Live Caster|a separate article for it]]. The basic information about it can be found there. --[[User:RiverAura|River]][[User_Talk:RiverAura|Aura]] 20:36, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

==Alterations from Generation IV==
Shouldn't the removal of Curse be moved from the "Trivia" section to the "Alterations from Gen IV" section? [[User:U2kheim|U2kheim]] 20:12, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:Wait a sec, what? Did you mean, the ???-type? Also, is it neccessary? --[[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 13:33, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
::Yes because it is an official elemental type. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 17:11, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Thematic Motif? ==

When will the thematic motif for this generation be written? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:18, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:Because, I'm assuming they're added after the release of the next generation. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 01:33, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::They were all added by one user quite recently. It's a new thing; no one's written the Gen V one yet. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:04, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Timescale between generations ==

i know there isn't an official timescale between BW and HGSS/DPPt (as HGSS/DPPt is 3 years ahead of FRLG and Ruby/Sapphire) but the page states that there must be a significant difference because the Rocket grunt who was seen in HGSS now has a son, however, Cynthia (DPPt) and Looker (Pt) are NPC's in Black and White too and don't appear to have aged much or at all (in comparison to Misty between FRLG and HGSS), so could it be possible that the grunt already had a son who grew up to be a Schoolboy trainer in a timespace of less than 3 years or slightly more? couldn't this mean that the time between HGSS and BW could be shorter than implied on the page? [[User:Azure42|Azure42]] 15:32, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:Cynthia and Looker are much older, so they age much less. The older Gym leaders from FRLG didn't change that much in HGSS. Misty was going through puberty, so her aging would be much clearer. Regardless, I believe that that Rocket Grunt said that he met his wife soon after returning home, meaning that his son was not born in HGSS. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 01:39, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
::It's highly likely to be 11 years - GSC was three years after RGB, RGB were released in 1996, with GS exactly three years later. BW were released 11 years after GS, and since RS happens at the same time as RGB and DP happens at the same time as GS, for the remakes' sake. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:04, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Yes but Caitin is already young in Platinum-HGSS. Maybe she is in her 20s or her early 30s. Yet, in Black and White she still appears to be young (maybe in her late 30s). So an eleven year gap seems to be too big.
::::People can't have a very similar appearance for years. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 17:37, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::You'd be surprised how little some people change over the years. My brother, for instance, has hardly changed in appearance in nearly 15 years. And let's not forget our famous [[Ash Ketchum|in-universe]] example.
:::::In regards to Caitlin, she honestly looks a lot younger than 20 in PtHGSS. Her exact age, however, is debatable. --'''[[User:Darkeiya|Darkeiya]]''' ''[[User talk:Darkeiya|talk to me!]]'' 10:40, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

== Kanto ==

why's it say this is the only Generation not to include Kanto? wouldn't something like that be better saved for after this Generation is over?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 23:33, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
:Currently it is true. If this changes in the future, so will the trivia. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:38, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
::alright--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 07:52, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

== Running Shoes (Changes from Generation IV) ==

is it worth putting that the running shoes have returned to just pressing B in contrast to in HGSS when it could be automatically be put on using the button on the touch screen? or is it just useless trivia? [[User:Azure42|Azure42]] 17:27, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== Debut ==
I noticed on the "Debut" part of the page it says "March 6 2011" - the U.S. release date. As it's under the "En" tag (obviously for "English") and the European release is 4th March 2011, should that be changed to reflect the EU release date? Although the majority of the fandom are American, it is the English premiere, or a third option be added? {{unsigned|Ryu Shoji}}
:It should really be first English, not first US. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:08, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
::We use US dates for everything else, I don't see why this should be any different even if it is two days before. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 16:17, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Maybe we should add {{tt|*|March 6 in US}}?----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 16:25, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
::::The thing says English, so we should use the first English date. The only reason US dates are used for everything else is because they are usually first ([[The Legend of Thunder!|but not always]]). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 01:23, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::The European date is when the English-speaking world begins Generation V. If the date has not been changed already, I will update it (this is the date we're counting down to on the Main Page/when all the info will be out, after all). —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:14, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

== Catching Pokemon at a certain time of day ==

Can someone confirm if this has been removed? As it would certainly seem to be. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 15:01, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:Yes; time of day-based encounter rate differences don't appear in the game data.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 15:07, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

== New standards ==

I find some odd matches for gen I-V. Timburr, Dangoro and Woobat share traits with machop, geodude and zubat.
What if Gen V acts Like a new Gen I, that will provide Gen VI and up with reccuring pokemons (Magicarp, Geodude, Abra, Machop and Pikachu (and probably others) appears in all Generations I to IV) that will be "standards" for the next games?
Gen III seemed like a reboot for fans, maybe they tried then, and now they made it here.Maybe... [[User:Grhaal|Grhaal]] 01:49, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
:Some fans have speculated that. We'll see what the future will be like. It'll be interesting. --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 19:40, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

== Trivia-new system ==

This is the second time (not the first) that a new generation of pokemon didnt start on a new system, while gold and silver had exclusive features when played on the GBC (playing in color), they were still playable on GB and GB pocket (cyrstal was the first game that required the GBC). Just as this duo of games can be played on DS, but when played on DSi or 3DS, these games also have exclusive features (the Xtransceiver only works on DSi and 3DS, but NOT on original DS/DS lite systems)

To say its the first time not to move to the next console at launch is misleading and untrue.
:[[File:Pokemonsilverbox.jpg|thumb|300px]]
:Box clearly says ''Game Boy Colour''. The games just happen to be backwards compatible. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 01:30, 17 February 2011 (UTC0)

the game cart is clearly a GB cart (notice the thumb grip goes in and says "Nintedo GameBoy" not out like a GBC cart) [http://gamesdbase.com/Media/SYSTEM/Nintendo_Game_Boy_Color/Cart/big/Pokemon-_Gold_Version_-_2000_-_Nintendo.jpg example of GB cart]
[http://lh3.ggpht.com/_fLtECJziqZI/SkqTt2PlFOI/AAAAAAAABmE/Ciwhrs2IL8E/HPIM1556.JPG example of GBC cart]

== Young trainer ==

Its obvious that "young trainer" is the player from D/P/Pt.--[[User:Grhaal|Grhaal]] 12:28, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

== Non-Event Trivia ==
Is it worth noting the Generation V introduced the same number of non-event Pokémon as Generation I (150)? --[[User:Jimmyduckegg|Jimmyduckegg]] 18:01, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:I don't think so. Victini is counted as an event Pokémon. With the unofficial Keldeo, Meloetta, and Genesect, that makes 156 - 4 = 152 non-event Pokémon. I have a ready list of all Generation V Pokémon for reference, and that indeed appears to be the case... [[User:Haxorus|Haxorus]] 14:22, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
::I think JDE was considering Zorua and Zoroark event Pokémon. Would it be correct to consider them that? After all, the only ways to get those two are through an event, or from someone else who has through trading or GTS. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 22:50, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

== Lock ==

I believe this page should be locked due to this[http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Dengeki_DS_announces_new_Pok%C3%A9mon_game]. Anyone agree?[[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] 17:38, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
:I think we should wait until people actually start doing editing the page. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 17:54, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
::Han is correct. If something goes wrong, then it will be protected, but for now, there is no reason to worry. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 17:57, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
:::Okay thanks Han and Jello. I wasn't sure, though. When something "Big" like this is 'revealed', a lot of people overreact. [[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] 18:04, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

==Gym Leaders?==
Is it accurate to say this is the first generation for which there is more than one Gym Leader per town within the same game? (Or something less awkwardly phrased.) I noticed it wasn't in the section so.... Am I forgetting someone? [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 22:15, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
:Tate and Liza from Hoenn. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 22:26, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
::They fight as a unit, though. It's still the first time you could fight one of two or three Gym Leader units depending on your game or your starter. I'm not sure what the best way to phrase it would be. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 14:17, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
:::[[Sootopolis Gym]]. Leader depends on version. You could also argue [[Fuchsia Gym]] and [[Viridian Gym]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:32, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
::::Given, the user who started this chain mentioned more than one leader within the ''same'' game; Tate and Liza were the first of this kind, I do believe. Cilan, Chili and Cress (discounting Iris and Drayden, because, as I've stated, the parameters for this are ''within the same game'') are not trailblazers. [[User:Sadistic Blaziken|Puppy]] of [[User talk:Sadistic Blaziken|Doom]] and [[Poochyena (Pokémon)|Destruction]] 14:40, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
:::::I'm the same user, I don't know why I brought up the version thing the second time. I was mostly wondering about Cilan, Chili, and Cress, but I didn't think about Tate and Liza. Thank you! [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 14:45, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Generation V

2011-06-20T14:17:15Z

Ikarishipper900: /* Gym Leaders? */

Talk:Caitlin

2011-06-20T14:11:51Z

Ikarishipper900:

Excuse me, but it might be speculation that Caitlin is a member of the Isshu Elite Four. It could be a ''different'' Cattleya, ever thought of that? {{unsigned|Magikarp123193}}
:Whoops, forgot to sign! [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 19:15, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
::No. In Cynthia's cottage she tells player about Sinnoh Battle Frontier.--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|でんのう]] ☢ [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|'''Z'''えんし]] 19:17, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, I think she mentions the villa belongs to Caitlin herself, but still, Caitlin mentions that she used to be unable to battle. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 19:19, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
::::another tidbit magikarp, why on earth would there be TWO Catteleya's? it makes abosolutely no sense for them to reuese a name of a major character. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:47, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

== Spoiler? ==
Is Caitlin the only character in Black and White which spoils that the story of Black and White is going on AFTER DPPt/HGSS? Because if she is, then it could be a bit to the trivia IMO. --[[User:Mattii|Mattii]] 14:57, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
:[[Cynthia]] and [[Looker]] also appear in BW. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 00:25, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
::I don't think "spoils" is the correct term. Anyway, [[Cynthia]] telling the player about Giratina and the Distortion World and the foreign Team Rocket Grunt from HGSS are the major pieces of evidence showing that BW occurs after DPPtHGSS. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:39, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Related to sleep? ==

In Pokemon Black and White, she is strangely related to sleeping. All her pokemon during the first match against her are related to sllep. [[Gothitelle]] looks like it's wearing a night gown, [[Ranculus]] bears a resemblance to a teddy bear, [[Musharna]] is almost always asleep and [[Shinbora]] looks like a Dream Catcher. She is also first seen in a bed when you face her. absolclaw from youtube noticed this, so i'll give him credit. Is this worthy to be in the Trivia? [[User:TheBlackPokemonMaster]]
:No...Gothitelle is wearing Gothic Lolita clothing..nothing else. I don't see the Teddy Bear in Reuniclus and Shinbora is based off the Nazca lines..not a Dream Catcher [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 21:38, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
::Reniculus has those small ears around its head. So maybe that's what TheBlackPokemonMaster meant. As for Sigilyph, it looks like a doll or lamp.
::It could also look like it resembles those baby toys that hang around the crib that plays music or better yet a wind chime but I guess its ::still too early to make those kinds of assumption. We could wait for the anime series and see if it shows anything that makes them look like those?
::[[User:Blueknightex|Blueknightex]] 07:55, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

== Quotes ==
Is it THAT hard to get quotes, people? Or do we choose to ignore the fact the article is incomplete?--[[User:FlareKitsu|FlareKitsu]] 13:45, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
:Whining about it on the talk page doesn't help anyone. If you have quotes, please add them. I want to add them, but I'm not that far in the game yet; I will add the quotes when I get up to it if no one else has, but there is no need to be impatient. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:31, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

== 14 in Gen 4? ==

Where does this come from? --[[User:Deuxhero|Deuxhero]] 05:22, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
: Maybe a bit of fanon? She certainly doesn't look 14, considering she's as tall as Darach, although it's not out of the question. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 05:28, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
::No, it's official [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 05:31, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
:::I believe it came from a magazine (Nintendo Dream IIRC). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:53, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

== "A minor character in the Battle Castle says hat Darach has feelings for Caitlin "? ==

Hi, everyone! I saw on the trivia that ''"A minor character in the Battle Castle mentions that Darach has feelings for Caitlin, but refuses to show these emotions to her. "''

Just wondering if she event meant it was Caitlin on the first place? Because on the English version of the game she says
''"Mr. Darach...Oh, how I pine for thee...."''. I think she meant that she(herself) cares for him and not Caitlin herself. Like she(who is the maid actually) has a crush on Darach. Not Caitlin? Can someone please clarify this? Thanks :) [[User:Blueknightex|Blueknightex]] 07:46, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
:That line is only in HGSS. Platinum has the similar line you refer to. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 07:52, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
:: I see. Ok but those 'feelings'..what if they aren't love? What if its anger? because Caitlin often shouts at Darach. Sometimes maybe Darach gets angry at Caitlin but doesn't show it. Well just wondering..[[User:Blueknightex|Blueknightex]] 08:01, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

== Why won't people here consider Caitlin as a Frontier Brain? ==

I know a lot of people seem to disagree with calling her a Frontier Brain simply because she doesn't fight. But she still seems to be relevant to the Battle Castle for some reasons. One being that she is still part of Darach's sprite even though she doesn't take part in the battle. The other is that she still appears with Darach on the print that is awarded to the player after beating Darach. If I could find anymore information stating that she is can we put her as Frontier Brain as well? Just asking. [[User:Blueknightex|Blueknightex]] 08:15, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

:Can we just call her "the head of the Battle Castle" instead? Not the Frontier Brain but the head. Darach takes orders from her right? Well then she's the head. Maybe Darach acts as a Frontier Brain for the facility because Caitlin is unable to battle for her. Makes sense right? So can we just leave it with that? Can anyone here please reply? [[User:Blueknightex|Blueknightex]] 12:33, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
::She's the princess of the castle. Darach is her Butler, and basically runs the Battle Castle. Caitlin is still his superior, though. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:27, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
::: So I guess calling her the head is ok right? She doesn't run the castle but since she's the surperior its alright to call her the head. [[User:Blueknightex|Blueknightex]] 11:01, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
::::Call her what she is: the princess of the castle. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:26, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

==Trivia Question....==
"Caitlin, Lance, Koga and Bruno are the only Elite Four members who have appeared in more than one generation."
I'm assuming the latter three are ignoring remakes? Does this need clarification? [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 14:11, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Generation V

2011-06-17T22:15:57Z

Ikarishipper900:

Talk:Generation IV

2011-06-17T15:37:22Z

Ikarishipper900:

Okay, at the very least this page needs to be revamped. Right now, all of the information on the page can be found on the [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|Diamond and Pearl]] page. Following the precedent set by the pages for Generations [[Generation II|II]] and [[Generation III|III]], this page should include sections on "Advances in Gameplay", "Shinō Starters", "Gym Leaders", and "Other Generation IV games". Hovever, the list of new Pokémon should be removed, especially since it can be found, with annotation, on the Diamond/Pearl page. Also, the information on Shinō should be moved to a new, more complete introduction. Does anyone agree with me? [[User:Drapion|Drapion]] 23:00, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

I think we can take for granted that this page should look like the [[Generation II|II]] and [[Generation III|III]] pages. A new page for the complete list of the Generation IV Pokemon should be created once the games are out; for now I suggest that this list remains in the [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|Diamond and Pearl]] page since it's more frequently visited than this one. --[[User:Arty2|Arty2]] 00:06, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

==New Developments==
Should some reference be made to the article in Coro Coro about the new game coming out this year? [[User:Kochdude388|Kochdude388]] 23:51, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
:Certainly. As soon as it's announced what exactly the new game is, GSDS, DPv3, or something else completely. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:04, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

==Pokemon Platinum==
that is the confirmed title according to serebii and corocoro. Giratina will be on the box, the underground will have Wi-Fi, etc. An image of it is on Serebii.{{unsigned|Arutoa]}}

:That scan you looked at is NOT confimred to be legit. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

the scan isn't, but according to serebii, the title is, but serebii's been wrong before. --[[User:Arutoa|Arutoa]] 22:09, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

==Generation IV with Generation II?==
I just can't understand how Generation I is contemporary with Generation III or how Gens II and IV are contemporary with each other. All I'm seeing is "Generation X is comtemporary with Generation Z" or that "Gen X seems to be contemporary with Gen Z", but where has that been proved?... I'm not saying that's not true, I'm just saying I find that puzzling and interesting. [[User:Sipulichu|Sipulichu]] 00:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:Hoenn and Kanto take place at the same time is a weak bet, but it's mostly because you don't need a time machine to trade between the games. Therefore, they must trade at the same time. Gen 2 and 4 are contemporary because of: A. the Red Gyarados report at the start of DP (which must happen before Gold/Crystal captures/defeats the Gyarados), B. References to Elm's RECENT report on eggs, and there are more, but those are two of the big ones. Persumably, it takes 3 years or so for Pokémon to reach Sinnoh (Assuming by land, on foot) from Hoenn or Kanto.{{unsigned|Aura-Knight}}

::At the beginning of RBY, you have a Nes/Snes. At the beginning of RSE, you have a Gamecube. That's pretty odd, because the NES and Gamecube were released more than 10 years apart, how could they take place at the same time? The time machine doesn't necessarily indicate that RSE takes place at the same time as RBY, because since the data for pokemon was available in both FRLG and RSE, then you could freely exchange pokemon and wouldn't need an excuse to only transfer certain pokemon {{unsigned|Edge578}}
:::Remembering of course that the GameCube wasn't invented at the time of RBY, how could they have it in that game? The whole thing is based on a series of hunches, which is explained above. I don't see why it needs to be discussed further. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 20:39, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

::::As you said before, they couldn't allow GSC pokemon into RBY because they weren't programmed into the game. In RSE, they programmed all 386 pokemon into the game, so using a Time Machine Feature isn't necessary. This does not indicate the chronology of the games.--[[User:Edge578|Edge578]] 23:11, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

:::::Don’t insert your comments in between other people’s that way without use the indents to make it clear who is replying to whom. Um. I guess you could technically be right, but considering that Bill invents a Time Machine in ''G''/''S''/''C'' and calls it such, don’t you think he or Celio would have said something if the Network Machine transported Pokémon through time as well as to distant lands? --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 14:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Well, to be fair, Trom, it’s still a NES in ''FR''/''LG''. Which probably just means that it’s a hand-me-down system from the player’s mother/father/cousin/whatever, or Red/Leaf just really loves retro games.
::::Let me put it this way, Edge: the Wii exists now, and I still have my NES. I have at least one friend who ONLY owns an NES, no newer consoles. So, not a timeline problem. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 14:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
::Wait, when did it say Professor Elm's report on eggs was recent?--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight the ampharos]] 13:46, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
:::I think it is the hiker who gives you the Happiny egg in Hearthome. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 21:04, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
::::In fact, I got my Happiny egg from the hiker, and this is what he says: " Hi, hi. Do you want a Pokemon Egg? They found this at the Day Care in Solaceon Town...Want to take it? This is what I heard about eggs. If you take Egg and travel with energetic Pokemon, it'll hatch. I remember someone announced that...Professor Elm of Johto maybe?" [[User:Edge578|Edge578]] 01:24, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
::Plus, isn’t the stuff in Sinnoh explicitly stated to be 3 years after Kanto, just like Johto is? -[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 14:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I guess not, I could not find evidence. But still... althugh I don’t think Pokémon at Pal Park get there on their own. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 14:13, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
::The red Gyarados report at the beginning of DPP had a lake with a picture of Mount Coronet in the background. Wouldn't that mean that the Red Gyarados was found in Sinnoh? Plus, the Red Gyarados could just be a shiny Gyarados. It's not necessarily the one that you fought in GSC. The Time Machine in GSC was just a way so you could import your RBY pokemon into GSC. There was no point in making Time Machines in later games, because every pokemon was programmed into each game. I'm sure in HGSS you will be able to import any pokemon you want from FRLG. They probably ditched the whole Time Machine idea because it wasn't necessary. The Egg report is the only '''solid''' piece of evidence that Gen II and Gen IV take place at the same time, at that wasn't confirmed yet. I just don't think it's fair to assume the chronological order of the games when the only evidence we have is minor details.--[[User:Edge578|Edge578]] 01:20, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
::::The Red Gyarados was NOT found by the expedition on TV. It was just a rumor. We will find out about the time machinesoon enough. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 14:13, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::I was quite intrigued by the whole proposition of Gen I/III and Gen II/IV happening at the same time, but I think we should at least provide evidence and references IN THE ARTICLES THEMSELVES that support all these these claims. While the Red Gyrados and Professor Elm egg discovery does indeed imply the connection between II/IV, it certainly isn't watertight - how do we explain the presence of eggs in Ruby and Sapphire? [[User:Delta-v|Delta-v]]
Don't go taking things out of the article just yet. The main reason for the RSEFRLG timeline being one and the same is the inter-region trading with the remake games. With the announcement of HGSS, things are looking in the same direction for Generation IV. On top of the hints (not definite proof, but hints), all the evidence points to the games having the same, or a similar, timeframe. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:28, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
:I'd consider the fact that there's a danged NEWS BULLETIN at the start of DP reflecting the fact that the Red Gyarados is at the very least a ''recent'' event being the ultimate proof. You don't see news companies reporting on stuff six years later, do you? Gen I and III I'll give you a "maybe" on, even though due to FRLG it proves at least ''part'' is contemporaneous, but Gen IV is the one most definitely contemporary to Gen II. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:08, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
::Well they didn’t actually find the thing, and there is no reason to assume this was AFTER Gold/Kris battled it at the Lake of Rage, since characters in ''G''/''S''/''C'' seemed to know about it before that. I would say Jasmine showing up is the best indicator of contemporaneity({{tt|?|is that a word?}}), since she uses her Steelix in contests, and she used to be a Rock-type trainer. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 14:13, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

== Gym Leaders ==

Can I put it like the Sinnoh page? LIke a Diamond and Pearl and a Platinum gym leader chart?
Here, straight from the [[Sinnoh]] page:

====Diamond/Pearl====
{| border=1 align="left" width=200px style="background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background: #C0C0FF;"
! #
! Leader
! Type
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 1
| style="background: #{{rock color}}" align="center" | [[Roark]]
| style="background: #{{rock color}}" align="center" | {{t|Rock}}
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 2
| style="background: #{{grass color}}" align="center" | [[Gardenia]]
| style="background: #{{grass color}}" align="center" | {{t|Grass}}
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 3
| style="background: #{{fighting color}}" align="center" | [[Maylene]]
| style="background: #{{fighting color}}" align="center" | {{t|Fighting}}
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 4
| style="background: #{{water color}}" align="center" | [[Crasher Wake]]
| style="background: #{{water color}}" align="center" | {{t|Water}}
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 5
| style="background: #{{ghost color}}" align="center" | [[Fantina]]
| style="background: #{{ghost color}}" align="center" | {{t|Ghost}}
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 6
| style="background: #{{steel color}}" align="center" | [[Byron]]
| style="background: #{{steel color}}" align="center" | {{t|Steel}}
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 7
| style="background: #{{ice color}}" align="center" | [[Candice]]
| style="background: #{{ice color}}" align="center" | {{t|Ice}}
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 8
| style="background: #{{electric color}}" align="center" | [[Volkner]]
| style="background: #{{electric color}}" align="center" | {{t|Electric}}
|}
 

====Platinum====

{| border=1 align="left" width=200px style="background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background: #C0C0FF;"
! #
! Leader
! Type
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 1
| style="background: #{{rock color}}" align="center" | [[Roark]]
| style="background: #{{rock color}}" align="center" | {{t|Rock}}
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 2
| style="background: #{{grass color}}" align="center" | [[Gardenia]]
| style="background: #{{grass color}}" align="center" | {{t|Grass}}
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 3
| style="background: #{{ghost color}}" align="center" | [[Fantina]]
| style="background: #{{ghost color}}" align="center" | {{t|Ghost}}
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 4
| style="background: #{{fighting color}}" align="center" | [[Maylene]]
| style="background: #{{fighting color}}" align="center" | {{t|Fighting}}
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 5
| style="background: #{{water color}}" align="center" | [[Crasher Wake]]
| style="background: #{{water color}}" align="center" | {{t|Water}}
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 6
| style="background: #{{steel color}}" align="center" | [[Byron]]
| style="background: #{{steel color}}" align="center" | {{t|Steel}}
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 7
| style="background: #{{ice color}}" align="center" | [[Candice]]
| style="background: #{{ice color}}" align="center" | {{t|Ice}}
|-
! style="background: #C0C0FF;" | 8
| style="background: #{{electric color}}" align="center" | [[Volkner]]
| style="background: #{{electric color}}" align="center" | {{t|Electric}}
|}
 

So? Should I put it? I'll be looking for an answer.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/Secret Page|X]] 02:59, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, because it changed. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 03:04, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
::Ok, I've done it. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:21, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

== Starters ==

I'm just wondering, do we have any physical evidence of the dark, fighting, and psychic starter trio? [[User:MiekL94|--MiekL94]] 20:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
:See Coronis, or just look it up on Google. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:46, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

==Kanto?==
recently I have been looking at some of the Kanto cities, routes and locations and many (if not all) of the pages seem to reference them as being part of generation IV? Is this just because of Pal Park possible data because that seems to hardly count as being a part of generation IV... Is there any confirmation that Kanto will be fully accessible in HeartGold/SoulSilver yet? If not, this shouldn't be assumed... -- [[User:D558|D558]] 04:39, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:Remake. Was all of Gen I Kanto accessible in FRLG? Find a place from RGBY that didn't appear in FRLG. Kanto's in HGSS, and since it's a '''''remake''''' it's safe to say that '''''every place in Neo Kanto will be there as it was in GS'''''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:48, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
::Let’s hope you’re only half-right. I could deal with Viridian Forest still having trees and the various routes not being shortened, maybe an open Safari Zone? All positive as far as retcons go, Gen II Kanto was lame. I am pretty sure that with Sinnoh being that large, they could fit a more robust Kanto right in with Johto on the DS cart. Nintendo made a number of retcon improvements in ''FR''/''LG'', let’s hope they remain unafraid in ''HG''/''SS''. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 14:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

== Legendaries ==

Assuming that all rumors assumed true, then if one has gone to every nintendo event then with HGSS, (And Dongle) the only need for pal park would be the Kanto and Hoenn Starters, as every pokemon, minus the starters and legionaries of previous gens would be obtainable through some method in HGSS and Platinum. I'll run through them:

*Kanto Trio: Roaming in platinum
*Mewtwo: assumed to be in HGSS
*Mew: My Pokemon ranch
*Johto Legionaries: in HGSS (Amusing Celebi event)
*Weather Trio: In HGSS
*Eon Pokemon: HGSS
*Jirachi, Deoxys: Were done by events, Jirachi recently, Deoxys last year.
*Regis: Event Regigigas

They're outsourcing GBA games.

[[User:Atomix26|Atomix26]] 19:40, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
:It may appear so, but this remains speculation until the "{{tt|assumed|amused?}}" legendaries are confirmed. The Eons aren't in HGSS, though, are they? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:02, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
::They were said to roam Johto, but it was just like the Mewtwo thing: completely unsubstantiated rumor before the last round of scans were fully translated. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 14:13, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:Legionaries? And that’s not what the word “outsourcing” means. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 14:13, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

== Johto Gym Leaders? ==
They have gym leaders in Johto, right? Coz if they do, this article should be tagged with {{template|incomplete}} because the Johto gym leaders section needs to be created. [[User:Silver Eevee|Silver Eevee]] [[User talk:Silver Eevee|talk?]] [[Special:Contributions/Silver Eevee|contribs!]] 10:16, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:Not yet.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 10:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

== Gym Leader Error ==

It says the leader of Mahogany is Professor Oak, which is obviously incorrect.

I'd fix it myself, but the page is protected. --[[User:TW|TW]] 20:25, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:How'd that happen. Fixed. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:16, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== Gym Leader Line-Up ==

Why is it that the Sinnoh Gym Leaders are in their Diamond\Pearl order instead of their Platinum order?
[[User:Kingofun|Kingofun]] 13:46, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
:I believe they are listed in the DP order on the Pt Badge Case. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:36, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
:Ok
[[User:Kingofun|Kingofun]] 00:37, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

== Add please ==

Someone add '''[[:a:File:SoulSilver title.png|this]]''' somewhere please, don't delete the Diamond one though. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 11:47, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

== Kanto Picture ==

FireRed and LeafGreen are NOT Generation IV. Someone needs to put a HeartGold/SoulSiver Kanto pic n there. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 14:48, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:We are still trying to find one. There is a picture of Kanto, but it is covered by the Kanto Gym Leaders. So the picture of Kanto stays there.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 15:45, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
::Still hoping that some American source would give us the full map. Possibly the official NP or Prima Guide. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:46, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

== I'm against SoulSilver being the head image for Generation IV ==

Generation IV is mainly about Diamond and Pearl. Those are the games that launched it. The infobox colors are also in the DP color scheme. I realize that everyone likes HGSS better but those games don't deserve to be the representation of Gen IV over Diamond and Pearl. Gold and Silver had their time in Generation II. Let Diamond and Pearl have theirs. Look at Generation III's article. Ruby is the head image. Not LeafGreen.

Anyone have comments on this? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:12, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:It switches between all the title screens for Gen IV games.... >____> ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 22:14, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
::It does? LOL. My bad. I can't tell by looking at the page. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:19, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:::I'll have to agree with Kenji though. Lugia and Ho-Oh were first featured in Generation II. Users will start freaking out and say that it's not true and subsequently remove the images in question. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:48, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

== Legendary Pokemon Trivia ==

So far, Sinnoh Generation IV has introduced the largest amount of legendaries so far. I wanted to add this trivia, but I can't seem to edit it. I'm assuming the admins have locked it, so could someone please add this? Thank you.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 02:40, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

== Thematic Motif ==

How come there isn't a Sinnoh Thematic Motif?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 07:30, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
:Because no one's written one yet. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:40, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
::Oh. *facepalms at my own stupidity*--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 08:13, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
:::ok i wrote it and i think its pretty goood but i cant seem to put it where i want it to be could someone help me 14sonicstar-the highlinker-
::::Good job. Cold and I fixed up the errors you made. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:27, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::Sawamular posted this [http://weekly.ascii.jp/elem/000/000/024/24648/ interview] in [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Pok%C3%A9mon_Black_and_White_Versions#This_theme_is_.22Opposite_poles.28.E5.AF.BE.E6.A5.B5.29.22. here] a few weeks ago. The theme is "究極を目指して", something about "aiming for the ultimate".[[User:神奇超龍|神奇超龍]] 17:19, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

==VS Sprites==
Or whatever they're actually called. Wouldn't the introduction of these into Platinum be noteworthy? [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 15:37, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Tobias (Sinnoh)

2011-06-17T15:05:00Z

Ikarishipper900: /* Champion? */

== Takuto's Darkrai page ==

Considering that [[Sparky]], [[Harrison's Blaziken]] and [[Tyson's Meowth]] all have their own pages, shouldn't Takuto's Darkrai have a page of its own as well (I know it hasn't done much yet, but it's due to play a major role in the upcoming eps)? {{unsigned|Watchermark}}
:It doesn't need it's own page just yet, and if it doesn't meet the notability like the others it won't be created at all. This page is not suppose to exist yet technically. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 21:01, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Darkrai didn't battle against Pikachu, it was defeated by Sceptile. And Takuto has Latios.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 10:34, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

== Dark Pulse ==

in a picture on serebii i saw a picture of takuto's darkrai using dark pulse. is this worth putting on the page? [[User:Eevee obsessed 008|Eevee obsessed 008]] 14:14, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's already on the page. It has just been hidden since the episode has not aired yet. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 15:11, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

==Moves according to Preview==

Darkrai's moves...Dark Pulse, Dark Void, Dream Eater and Ice Beam...[[User:Chomi|Chomi]] 09:50, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

stuff isn't added in until the episode airs

which is soon [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 09:51, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

== Personality ==

What's his personality like? I pictured him as a jerk like Paul, but I think his real personality should be mentioned somewhere in the article.--[[User:Burgundy|Burg]][[User talk: Burgundy|undy]] 03:27, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

== Origin?? ==

Is it possible that Tobias, whose Japanese name is Takuto, is based off the world championship (seniors), Takuto Itagaki. Even if he's not, he's likely based off the champion. [[User:TheTheDragon14|TheTheDragon14]] 04:54, 22 January 2011 (UTC)TheTheDragon14
:Already there. Read the name origin. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:56, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Oops. Sorry ^^" [[User:TheTheDragon14|TheTheDragon14]] 06:00, 26 February 2011 (UTC)TheTheDragon14

==English VA==

Does anybody else think his English voice actor is Dan Green? --[[User:Skulblaka Shurtugal|Long Live Pokémon! --Skulblaka Shurtugal]] 16:41, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

== 4 Other Pokémon ==

Since he competed in the Pokémon League, he has to have at least 6 Pokemon (i think, correct me if im wrong). So should this be posted under his pokemon?--[[User:Burgundy|Burg]][[User talk: Burgundy|undy]] 02:32, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
:No, we haven't done it for the other three leagues, no need to do it for him. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 06:04, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
::Thought I saw it under others though... My bad--[[User:Burgundy|Burg]][[User talk: Burgundy|undy]] 22:56, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
:::If it is Trip you are thinking of, he has that notice because he offered to have a full battle with Ash, indicating he has 6. Tobias may only have these two, and technicly drew agaist Ash but didn't say anything, for all we know, he was planning to win it all with Darkria [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 23:00, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

==Champion?==
Okay, so Tobias was victor of this particular tournament. However, on the Pokémon Champion page under the [[Pokémon Champion#In the anime|anime section]], it reads "Lucian mentioned that the winner of the Sinnoh League has the opportunity to battle the Elite Four and their Champion." This seems to imply to me that Tobias isn't considered a Champion yet. Should he be removed from the Pokémon Champions template, or am I totally off on this? (To be honest, this makes me wonder about the other anime champions, but I suppose it only says definitively for Sinnoh.) [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 19:40, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
:There are tournament champions, and regional champions. Two different things. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 20:51, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
::Okay, I just wasn't sure. Thanks. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 15:05, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon Colosseum

2011-06-17T02:46:52Z

Ikarishipper900:

I see no mention of how you're able to store Pokecoupons on your GBA.--[[User:ANinyMouse|ANinyMouse]] 23:14, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Ah, also, don't you think the information on the effectiveness of purification methods against the various types of Natures might be important? We can't very well add this informatioin to the [[Shadow Pokemon]] page yet, since it could change in [[Pokemon XD]].--[[User:ANinyMouse|ANinyMouse]] 23:17, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

BTW, just to make sure, you can transfer pokemon from colosseum to Ruby or Saphire using only a wire and GBA, right? Thanks. --[[User:Combine 108|Combine 108]] 03:06, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

== The order... ==

Does anyone know where the other two Johto starters appear based on what you take in Phenac? Or does that not deserve a mention?--[[User:Blazevoir|Blaz]][[User talk:Blazevoir|evoir]][[Special:Contributions/Blazevoir|<span style="color:#{{{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|0=???|1=Normal|2=Fighting|3=Flying|4=Poison|5=Ground|6=Rock|7=Bug|8=Ghost|9=Steel|10=Fire|11=Water|12=Grass|13=Electric|14=Psychic|15=Ice|16=Dragon|17=Dark|Black}} color}}">!!]] 02:05, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

:If you pick Bayleef in Phenac: Quilava is found in the Snagem Hideout, Croconaw at the Shadow Pokémon Lab second visit.

:If you pick Quilava in Phenac: Croconaw is found in the Snagem Hideout, Bayleef at the Shadow Pokémon Lab second visit.

:If you pick Croconaw in Phenac: Bayleef is found in the Snagem Hideout, Quilava at the Shadow Pokémon Lab second visit.

:--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:03, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

== RIBBONS ==

it says nothing about ribbons here {{Unsigned|Emo-fairy}}
:Now it does. --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 16:52, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
:so i see. can you get any other ribbons? [[User:Emo-fairy|emoemo]] 14:14, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
::No. --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 22:37, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
:::what a shame . if you cant get any other ribbons, why is the space for trhem so big? [[User:Emo-fairy|emoemo]] 12:25, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
::::So you can see all the Ribbons held by a Pokémon that came from Ruby/Sapphire and earned lots of them. --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 17:53, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:::: that makes sense.

== player guide ==

where can you get the player guide for this game from? [[User:Emo-fairy|emoemo]] 14:09, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

== Leaf and Red ==

Where exactly do you see them? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 21:54, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

== OT and ID # ==

What is the OT and ID # of Pokémon transferred to a GBA game? Like an Entei, etc. And what will the Pal Park data say? Distant Land? I'm trying to find out if an Entei and some other Pokémon I have are actually form Colosseum and not fakes... --[[User:Sivart345|Sivart]][[User talk:Sivart345|3]][[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|4]][[User:Firestorm|'''5''']] 20:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

:The OT name and ID numbers for a snagged Pokémon from either Colosseum or XD: Gale of Darkness work the same way as for the handheld games. The only real difference is that the OT name for such a Pokémon is always highlighted with male colors, since the Gamecube games only allow you to play as male characters and all NPC Pokémon gifts in those games come from males. The Pal Park listing says it came from a "distant land" (as opposed to saying it's from Orre), but why did they opt for that and not actually list the country of origin like it does for Hoenn and Kanto? --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:15, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
::Ok thanks. Seriously it should have been Orre. O_o [[User:Sivart345|Sivart]][[User talk:Sivart345|3]][[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|4]][[User:Firestorm|'''5''']] 18:59, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

== Trading ==

The XD article has trading, why doesnt this one have it? {{unsigned|?????}}
:There's no trading in this game, I believe. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:09, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
::There is... you can trade with the GBA games. I think it's only after you beat the game, though, but don't quote me on that. I never got that far on Colo, heh. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 01:12, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
:::I think the user's referring to in-game trading, but that'd be the case for after you purify them all.... I think... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:14, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

== Unlimited second chances to snag the Pokemon? ==

Various websites, people and Bulbapedia state that some of the snaggable Pokemon can have second chances if you happen to miss snagging them. I do know those include Bayleef, Quilava, Croconaw and Hitmontop if I recall correctly. I'm just wondering though, do all of the snaggable Pokemon offer second chances at snagging them, and if so, do they offer unlimited tries of snagging them if you happen to miss them the second time? I think this should be detailed whether or not that applies in this article... [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 00:47, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

:Yes, you do get unlimited chances to make the snag, and this applies to every single shadow Pokémon. Do note that some trainers relocate for different battles. For example, if you fail to snag from a [[Cipher Admin]] the first time, the second try is at [[Realgam Tower]]; fail there and you'll have to go to [[Deep Colosseum]] to make the snag, where you'll have as many attempts as you need as long as you can cycle through. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:53, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

::Well that's a relief. Think that should be noted in the article? Because all it ever states are those evolved forms of the Johto starters having second chances. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 02:56, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

==Transferred Pokémon==
I'm new here and i thought it'd be worth mentioning; All pokemon transfered from ruby saphire or emerald to colosseum get a 50% xp bonus when killing a pokemon in coloddeum ;-) (i haven't posted it yet though) but it could go under the compatibility section i guess Greetz [[User:-Cipher-|-Cipher-]] 20:39, 26 July 2010 (UTC)).
:New comments to the bottom of pages please. All Pokémon not from the same game get that bonus, whether they are traded from another handheld game or transferred from Colosseum. It's listed on the [[Experience]] page, and it deosn't really fit on here, given that the boost isn't exclusive to these Pokémon. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:51, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

::Sry and sry again as i can't create the indent on my blackberry =/(computer's broke)[NVM THAT, if the coding is standard then i know what to do ^^] and didn't know about that so thx for the info ^^, got anothher question though, but i don't know if it belongs here =(; howcome my latios (training it in colosseum) isn't learning the moves it should at the specific lvls where it should occur? ([[User:-Cipher-|-Cipher-]] 21:14, 26 July 2010 (UTC)).
:::Are you looking at the [[Latios (Pokémon)/Generation III learnset|Gen III learnset?]] They do change between generations, and Colosseum's a gen III game, so it's different from what you see on the Latios page (the Gen IV learnset). If it's not that then I don't know what it is. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:29, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
::::I dunno xD, i didn't even know there were different learnsets =P, but the last move it learned was dragon dance at lvl 55 after that nothing anymoe =( (am now lvl 84) and THX for the help so far ^^ -[[User:-Cipher-|-Cipher-]] 10:55, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::I was indeed ooking at the GEN IV learnset, will now check your gen III link (thx for that) Greetz [[User:-Cipher-|-Cipher-]] 11:22, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::PROBLEM SOlVED; yup Gen III matches my learnset, latios is bad in gen III though =( Thx for all the help [[User:-Cipher-|-Cipher-]] 11:31, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

==Deoxys Formes==
From what I've seen, Deoxys only appears in its Normal Forme in Colosseum. I have a couple of questions, though:
*If it comes from a GBA game, do its stats stay the same? (E.g. A Deoxys from FireRed keeps Attack Forme's stats)
**If yes, is the Speed Forme compatible since Emerald came about a year after Colosseum?
*If it's traded to Colosseum, would its stats change to the Normal Forme's? (I think so, but want to make sure.) [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 16:40, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

== Pokemon Colosseum Rerun ==

I have ''dug up'' my Gamecube and Pokemon Colosseum game, and I plan on playing it through again. However, this time I would like to gather up as much information as I possibly can while doing so. It seems that many of the articles on Colosseum are lacking a substantial amount of information, as opposed to the GB-line of games. This is the primary reason I am going to record everything I come by, whether I would be proof-reading what is already on Bulbapedia, or adding something for the first time.

I have looked through the current articles on Colosseum, many of these being mixed with XD (which I may get to after I am done with Colosseum), and I have figured that the most important topics to record are:
*Characters - to record information on all characters in the game, as in what they do, their importance, what they look like, and so on, as demonstrated by the [[Category:Colosseum_characters|Colosseum Characters]] category.
*Locations - to record all locations, including cities/towns, and key areas, as demonstrated by the [[Category:Colosseum_locations|Colosseum Locations]] category.
*Pokemon - to record all Pokemon available through normal means of finishing the game (e.g. snag-able Pokemon).
*Trainers - to record the names and locations of trainers, rewards they give, Pokemon they have, the moves these Pokemon have, and so on...
Is there anything else I should be looking for? I am not interested in the topics such as prizes that can be redeemed via Poké Coupons, for example - as these can easily be recorded after the game has already been completed. I would rather focus on collecting information on the topics that grow throughout the storyline, as they change while progressing through the game, and usually become irreversible in that sense. Locations may fall under the former category, but while immersed in the storyline of Pokemon Colosseum, I will be in a more appropriate mindset for writing up information on locations as the story flows along (it should be a good escape from the monotonous work of recording the more statistical data).

Does anyone have any comments, ideas, or anything at all to add? I would just like to get some opinions and whatnot so I can make this project as productive as possible. Thank you.

  →   '''[[User:Zelkova|Zelkova]]   [[User talk:Zelkova|(Talk)]]'''   17:39, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

==Main series?==
Do Colosseum and XD qualify as main series games? I've seen them referred to as both, even within Bulbapedia, so I was wondering. (Or does this need to be on another talk page?) [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 02:46, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Ghetsis

2011-06-15T19:52:23Z

Ikarishipper900: /* Isn't that the opposite? */

==Facial Damage==

Due to Geechisu having some sort of deformity in the right side of his face (apparent in his sprite and the latest coro coro artwork) that is most presented by him having an awkward shaped mouth, and also having that eyepatch thing, is it justifiable to say he may have some sort of facial damage? --[[User:Ryuutakeshi|Ryuutakeshi]] 06:28, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
:Was wondering if you were going to post that here, well putting that he may have facial damage goes a little on the border of speculation but I do think that his oddly shaped mouth should be noticed since it's not a sprite mistake and was obviously on purpose [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 06:34, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
:: We've mentioned mass-fan-agreed-on speculation before. --[[User:Ryuutakeshi|Ryuutakeshi]] 06:51, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

== Move to "Getis"? ==

If you listen to his battle music the choir says "Getis" over and over again, and so I think we should move it to "Getis". [[User:Mikkim|Mikkim]] 04:41, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
:Not until there's a definite answer - plenty of people hear "Penance" being chanted, and before that track was identified as Geechisu's theme, it was believed to be Genosect's and gave rise to the "Dennis" meme because of people hearing that. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 01:58, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::Except why would they be chanting an english word that sounds almost exactly like a pronunciation of the charecters name in a japanese game? It's much more likely they are saying "Getis", the characters name, than "Penance", something Getis is not showing at all (I mean, even after you beat him he still acts like he was doing the right thing, defiantly not showing penance at all), or the english name "Dennis", and a weird way of say the name as well (The "is" is not as stressed in the name dennis, as it is in the song, while Getis would have that stressed that way). [[User:Mikkim|Mikkim]] 05:50, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
:::It doesn't sound like Getis to me, and you yourself don't even seem sure so it won't be moved. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 06:32, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Well, what do you hear it as? And how do I not sound sure about it? I am very sure they are saying "Getis". [[User:Mikkim|Mikkim]] 23:12, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::While you may hear it as "Getis", others may hear it as "Dennis" or "Penance" or even just indiscernible ominous chanting. At any rate, I'm fairly certain that it's a tad too shaky to be suitable evidence for moving a page. --'''[[User:Darkeiya|Darkeiya]]''' ''[[User talk:Darkeiya|talk to me!]]'' 00:38, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::I suppose you're right. Perhaps when he appears in the anime we'll find out how his name is pronounced (Although I do hear the chanting as "Getis" or "Geetis"). --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 11:18, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I guess we can wait to see how they pronounce it in the anime. It can't take too long for them to show Getis. I mean, he does appear very close to the start of the game. [[User:Mikkim|Mikkim]] 06:30, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::"Penance" fits with the Team Plasma theme of making people repent for abusing Pokémon. Granted that Geechisu does not himself do this, but he is still manipulating others into releasing their Pokémon as "penance" for imagined crimes. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 08:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Not really, because plasma is already dead when Getis attacks you. He's just attacking you in anger, not in anyway connected to penance. Penance would not make sense when talking about Getis making a desperate move to try to try to get revenge for destroying his dream. Besides, he wasn't really the sort of person who believed it was freeing pokemon, so Penance would actually be extremely out of context when fighting Getis. [[User:Mikkim|Mikkim]] 06:49, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Romanization ==

It's just [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/remarks.php?trope=Main.ptitle2gli7wce&id=16638#16638 come to my attention] that ゲーチス may actually stand for "Goetis" (from ''{{wp|goetia|goēteia}}'', Greek for "sorcery"). Would this be suitable for everyone?—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:20, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
:Except goetis would be written as ゴーチス　instead of ゲーチス. {{unsigned|mikkim}}
::True, but the Japanese Wikipedia mentions that it can also be written as ゲーティア.[[User:神奇超龍|神奇超龍]] 10:41, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
:::So...are we good? Any objections?—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:44, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
::::I did find this {{tt|Sanskrit|I think..}} term "gati" (going/motion/destiny, plural:gatis), the term is used in Buddhism to mean "course of existence" or "destiny". Apparently there are six realms (Deva - god, {{tt|Asura|Coincidentally, one of the names of the seven sages}} - titans, Manusyas - humans, Tiryaks -animals, Pretas - ghost, Narakas -hell beings). So his name could also be a reference to this also. [[User:神奇超龍|神奇超龍]] 01:29, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::I guess that that can work. Goetis and Gatis both make more sense than most of the other names that have been guessed. Does anybody object to moving it to Goetis? [[User:Mikkim|Mikkim]] 21:10, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::Not a total objection, but perhaps it's just an origin and not the proper romanization? In that case, moving the page would be a mistake. Does Nintendo ever put out any media (be it guides, promotional material, etc.) which would use the romanizations of human characters' names, and thus put this issue to rest? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 23:17, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Ummm, maybe romanizing dento as dent, poddo as pod, and koon as corn is also just an origin but not the proper romanization? Geechisu can also be written as Getis, because the closest thing the Japanese have to a "ti" is chi and su can also be read with the u being silent. It would be a proper romanization, just as proper as デント/dento -> dent　ポッド/poddo -> pod　コオン/ koon -> corn. Offical media is not nessecary, because any objection that you could have to ゲエチス/geechisu -> getis would also apply to デント/ポッド/コオン -> dent/pod/corn. [[User:Mikkim|Mikkim]] 00:18, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Technically I was opposed to those as well, but I suppose you have a point. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 00:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::There are countless possible spellings. Also, if Geechisu can be moved, then so should [[Shooti]] be moved to Shooty (the romanization we use now is simply incorrect because of prolonged "i"). Also, it's annoying how Bulbapedia lacks standards lately. I thought we aren't moving the pages because of romanizations, because we're waiting for English version. That's been the admins' trend towards moving lately. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:01, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::Yes, but are there countless spellings that actually make sense? I am not against Shooti being moved, and Geechisu -> Getis actually makes more sense than Shooti -> Shooty. If we aren't moving them to there correct romanizations, we might as well move Dent back to dento, Corn to Koon, Pod to Poddo, Iris to Airis, and so on. We are using the logical names for the gym leaders, so why are we not using the logical name for Goetis? {{unsigned|mikkim}}
: Given no one objected to it being a possible name origin, I added it to that section of his page while everyone tries figure out where to move it to. --[[User:Deuxhero|Deuxhero]] 01:59, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
: While on the subject of where to put the page, the character in question is one of the few we hear pronounced, as it is chanted in his battle theme (unless that is really is or "Penance" or hell, even "Dennis"), while hard to make out, "Geechisu" is clearly out, and it is something like "Goetis" or "Getis". Not that it matters given we will have an actual English name in a few weeks.

== Interview confirms name "GCis" ==

CoroCoro has an interview with Junichi Masuda that confirms that Geechisu's name is GCis, from the G and Cis (C#) that the timpanis play in his battle theme. [[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 21:42, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
:Would you mind linking your source? —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 21:45, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
::This spelling, albeit correct meaning-wise, is simply too fugly. Let's just wait for his English name, okie? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 22:01, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
:::That has nothing to do with this [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 22:07, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net (scroll down to the yellow box) [[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 22:09, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
:::The only thing I see that confirming is the name's origin, not what its romanization is. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 22:12, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
:::If that is the name's origin, then I guess the correct spelling is how you spell the name of the letter Gee (for G), thus I go for Geecis.[[User:Veggietable|Veggietable]] 00:08, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

== Red Eyes ==

Notice that four of Geechy's six Pokémon have red sclera? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 03:54, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
:Notably, he also has a red shade on one of his eyes and two red eyes in his outfit. Coincidence? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 03:58, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
::If it were all of them, I would say yes, but unfortunately I think that it is just a slight co-incidence. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:06, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

== Trivia regarding appearance ==

Am I the only one who thinks Geechisu bears a passing resemblance to [http://storage.canoe.ca/v1/dynamic_resize/id/1178261/?size=400x400&site=rsoc_en&authtoken=7b86a2c58c4972d7e2e2aa060a3ce775&quality=100 this guy]? [[User:Glitchipedia|This message brought to you by Glitchipedia, the falsified encyclopedia]] 08:07, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
:: Wow, you're right!!!!! [[User:Mewtwo777|I am Darth Mewtwo... Fear me, and my team made entirely of Mewtwo!!!]] 02:09, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

== Trivia regarding music ==

I believe his battle music is the only one that has human voice. Is it not?'''[[User:Goldex555|Gold]][[User:Goldex555|ex]][[User:Goldex555|555]]''' 22:17, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

== Move to Ghetsis (NOT because of the rumors) ==

* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud5ZwB8BwTA#t=3m5s

This was confirmed at the tour. See? [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 00:07, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

== Japanese name romanization ==

So, what romanization should we use for his Japanese name. His English name is obviously corrupted, it's not a correct romanization of his Japanese name. I propose using "Gecis" in the Japanese context. It reflects the musical origin of his name well (and that inserted -e- reflects the pronounciation better and looks aesthetically better than "G'cis" or "G-cis", I don't think that this "e" ruins the etymology). So, what do you think? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 13:21, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
:I think Gcis would be ideal, as it really is the true representation of the names origin, but Gecis doesn't deviate too much.--[[User:Jda95|'''jda''']][[User talk:Jda95|'''95''']] 03:48, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
:: I agree. [[User:Mewtwo777|I am Darth Mewtwo... Fear me, and my team made entirely of Mewtwo!!!]] 04:16, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
::: How about "Geecis"? A single 'E' would make it sound like the strong 'E' in "special" instead of the soft E that we use to call the letter G. [[User:Veggietable|Veggietable]] 06:01, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
::::I would prefer GCis. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:45, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::As much as I would wish for the romanization of Geechisu's name, your ideas for romanization are wrong. Geechisu's name, pronounced "geh-chee-su", though having origins from "G" and "Cis", cannot be romanized as "Gecis" or "GCis" because they sound like "jee-sis". A possible romanizations for Geechisu's name could be "Gethis", with the "chi" making a "th" sound, which is common in romanizations. {{unsigned|Onxanthy}}
::::::No, it doesn't matter how you interpret the sound, it's whether it is a proper romanization. I think GCis is the way to go, simply because it the confirmed name origin. If there is a different official romanization, feel free to change it later. --[[User:Jda95|'''jda''']][[User talk:Jda95|'''95''']] 00:09, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::I understand that, but how is "GCis" pronounced? If it's pronounced "geh-sis", then that's fine because it is from Geechisu. However, if it is pronounced "jee-sis", that is almost as if calling Bulbasaur's Japanese name, Fushigidane, "fuh-shi-gi-dein", or even Pikachu, whose Japanese name is the same as its English name, "paika-chu". I do understand that you wish to change it to "GCis" because it confirms the origin of his name, but it does matter how the sound is interpreted and pronounced because it stays within the pronunciation the kana gives. You can't change the way the kana is pronounced unless it can be transliterated into it (e.g. "ru" becomes "lu"; "aa" becomes "ar"; "shi" becomes "si/see"). Since "gee" and "jee" are not from the same kana, it can't become "GCis". [[User:Onxanthy|Onxanthy]] 01:12, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

== "Corrupted to make it sound more sinister" ==

Is it really necessary to have that line in the English box in the "Names" category? [[User:Onxanthy|Onxanthy]] 00:54, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

== Surname ==
I hadn't been sure of this since all we had at first was the patched ROM, but now that "Harmonia" is used in the official translation of the game as well, should it be listed as Ghetsis and N's surname? --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 19:33, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:Well, I wouldn't move N to "N Harmonia", as N isn't his real name, obviously (it was confirmed in an interview for Nintendo Dream). As for Ghetsis Harmonia - maybe... --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 19:43, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

== Move to "Ghetsis Harmonia" ==

He does have a full name like "Ash Ketchum". [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 18:57, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
:I completly agree. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 19:02, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
::I am not opposed to having his full name there, but I believe his full name should be redirected here instead. In the games, he is mostly referred to as Ghetsis. His name seems kind of spoiler-y as well, so there's that to consider as well. A similar idea is present at both Professor Juniper's articles. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 19:25, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
:::A redirect would work. I could make one if you approve. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 19:28, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
:::Already one step ahead of you. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 19:31, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
::::Okay thanks Jello. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 19:32, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
:::::But the entire name is the first thing you see when you enter the page. Plus it's in the infobox as well. [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 19:37, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

== Full name ==

His full name was never given as "Ghetsis Harmonia" in at least the English version of the game (he just mentioned the "Harmonia" family/clan/name/whatever). While I'm willing to accept that it's probably his full name, why the assumption that the katakana would be ハルモニア•ゲーチス and not ゲーチス•ハルモニア, given that Unova is based on New York? When Western names are rendered in Japanese, the forename goes before the surname.

Note that I'm not saying that ゲーチス•ハルモニア is necessarily correct, either. I'm just saying that unless it's stated either way, it's bad to assume. --[[User:Ketsuban|Transfinite]] | [[User talk: Ketsuban|Talk]] 14:44, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

== Isn't that the opposite? ==

It says "Ghetsis unwilligly let the player battle N" or something like that. Isn't that the opposite? Didn't he say something like "Go (name)! Prove your worth"! or somethhing like that in N's castle?[[User:Bobosmith01|~Bobo]] 20:03, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
:I agree with this..... (but why can't the sentence just be edited?) [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 00:02, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
:Since nobody disagreed, I edited the sentence. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 19:52, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Ghetsis

2011-06-15T19:51:23Z

Ikarishipper900: /* In the games */ Changed a sentence contrary to the game.

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'''Ghetsis Harmonia''' (Japanese: '''ハルモニア•ゲーチス''' ''Gēchisu Harmonia'') is one of the [[Seven Sages]] of [[Team Plasma]].

==In the games==
{{spoiler}}
Ghetsis first appears in [[Accumula Town]] trying to rally its citizens. After that, he appears at several points in the game trying to warn the citizens of the oncoming change and is often the one that comes to rescue other [[Seven Sages]] if they are nearing arrest. After the player and [[Alder]] come to the Relic Castle he is already there and tells them that if they are to battle N, they must retrieve the Light Stone. He also appears making a similar speech to his one in Accumula Town in [[Opelucid City]]. He later appears at the castle during [[N]]'s takeover and taunts the player before battling N. After the player defeats N, he reveals he has been using N and revived {{p|Zekrom}}{{sup|Bl}}/{{p|Reshiram}}{{sup|W}} for N to use, and calls N a disappointment. He reveals that his and Team Plasma's motive for stealing Pokémon was a lie all along and that Ghetsis wanted to ensure that he was the only person in Unova with Pokémon, so he could dominate the region (this was previously foreshadowed by him referring to himself during speeches referring to Team Plasma's goals before correcting himself and saying Team Plasma). According to a Grunt in the castle, he was even learning of ways to manipulate hearts of people. [[Alder]] and [[Cheren]] both hear the truth from Ghetsis. Ghetsis battles the player in a rage, despite N's protest. After the battle, Alder and Cheren arrest Ghetsis and take him away. He is not seen again.

When the player meets the [[Shadow Triad]] for the final time, it is revealed that they rescued Ghetsis from captivity and that he is currently on the run. He has lost everything, including his Pokémon, and only the Shadow Triad are still loyal to him. For some reason, he has ordered the Shadow Triad to stop looking for him.

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===Quotes===
====At Accumula Town====
:''"My name is Ghetsis. I am here representing Team Plasma. Today, ladies and gentlemen, I would like to talk to you about Pokémon liberation.''
:''"I'm sure most of you believe that we humans and Pokémon are partners that have come to live together because we want and need each other. However... Is that really the truth? Have you ever considered that perhaps we humans... only assume that this is the truth?''
:''"Pokémon are subject to the selfish commands of Trainers... They get pushed around when they are our "partners" at work... Can anyone say with confidence that there is no truth in what I'm saying?''
:''"Now, ladies and gentlemen, Pokémon are different from humans. They are living beings that contain unknown potential. They are living beings from whom we humans have much to learn. Tell me, what is our responsibility toward these wonderful beings called Pokémon?"''
:''"That's right! We must liberate the Pokémon! Then, and only then, will humans and Pokémon truly be equals. Everyone, I end my words here today by imploring you to consider the relationship between people and Pokémon... and the correct way to proceed. We sincerely appreciate your attention."''

====At Castelia City====
:''"My word, it it isn't the Gym Leader, Burgh."''
:''"Indeed... No matter. We already have an exceptional base of operations. Is everyone familiar with the legend of the founding of the Unova region?"''
:''"The truth is this... The black/white dragon appeared before a hero who sought the ideal/true way to knit together a world full of warring people. This black/white Dragon-type Pokémon shared its knowledge--and bared its fangs at those who stood against it. Together, the power of this Pokémon and the hero brought unity to the hearts of everyone in the land, and that is how Unova was created.''
:''"We shall bring back the hero and that Pokémon to Unova once again! If we can win people's hearts and minds, we can easily create the world that I--I mean, Team Plasma--desires!"''
:''"Myah-ha-ha-ha! You are quite hard to figure out--a little more intelligent than I'd expected. I am fond of intelligent people, you see. You'll enjoy hearing about this... From every corner of the world, I have gathered knowledgeable people for our king's benefit. You could call them the Seven Sages. Very well! We will submit to your opinion and be on our way.''
:''"That girl over there... Return her Pokémon!"''
:''"The friendship between Pokémon and people can be very touching. But, in order to liberate Pokémon from foolish people, we will revive the legend of Unova--and win the hearts and minds of everyone. Farewell..."''

====At Driftveil City====
:''"Clay. It's a pleasure to meet you. I am Ghetsis, of Team Plasma. I've come to pick up my associates who are in your care."''
:''"What's this? It seems as if there has been some misunderstanding. We only free Pokémon from wicked people."''
:''"Team Plasma also has an interest in Driftveil City. And we have many, many more members besides those who are here..."''
:''"A decision worthy of a businessman called the Miner King. Your grasp of the situation is outstanding. Well then, we will be taking our colleagues off your hands..."''
:''"Don't worry, my fellow servant of the king... We are two of the Seven Sages, are we not? Well then, everyone, I expect that we will meet again somewhere."''

====In Relic Castle====
:''"It looks like everyone is here. It seems you are working hard to resurrect Reshiram{{sup|Bl}}/Zekrom{{sup|W}}, the other Dragon-type Pokémon, aren't you? But it appears the Light Stone{{sup|Bl}}/Dark Stone{{sup|W}} you seek is not here.''
:''"Well then, congratulations are in order! <Player>, you were chosen by our king. If you truly desire to keep the world as it is, where Pokémon live alongside people, you must bring the other Dragon-type Pokémon spoken of in legend and battle with our king. Otherwise, Team Plasma will steal every Pokémon from every person in the world and release them all!"''
:''"What's this? Champion Alder, even though illness took the Pokémon that had been your partner for many years, and you haven't had a serious battle in all that time... Even you, who ordered the Elite Four to protect the Pokémon League and left to wander the Unova region alone... Even a Champion like you now wants to protect a world where Pokémon and people live together? Team Plasma's king will show the people of Unova that he is stronger than a Champion who keeps Pokémon bound! And just like the hero who founded Unova, he will be accompanied by the legendary Pokémon. He will give this order! 'Trainers, release your Pokémon!' For this, we have prepared a suitable castle for the legendary Zekrom{{sup|Bl}}/Reshiram{{sup|W}} and our king!"''
:''"Our king has no interest in you. He has already determined that victory against you is assured."''
:''"Of course not. I'm doing this out of kindness. Yes, kindness. I'm making sure the Champion doesn't get hurt for no reason. Granted, the moment when someone loses all hope... I really do love to watch that moment. Well then, farewell."''

====At Tubeline Bridge====
:''"Excellent. It seems that you have obtained the Light Stone{{sup|Bl}}/Dark Stone{{sup|W}}. I congratulate you on a job well done.''
:''"It is my lord N's thought that the two holders of the legendary Pokémon should put their beliefs on the line and strive to find which is the true hero.''
:''"This is not necessary, however. From his infancy, I provided him with the education required to become the hero of legend. Indeed, he has been so acknowledged by the legendary Pokémon. ...Such purity of purpose is his.''
:''"The liberation of Pokémon of which I... Of which Team Plasma speaks is the separation of Pokémon from foolish people! That's the truth! All Trainers will become helpless to resist us! We alone will be able to use Pokémon!''
:''"The preparations are complete!''
:''"When my perfect plan is set in motion, first a few gullible Pokémon Trainers who are unable to resist Team Plasma will release their Pokémon. Then that number will become a hundred, then a thousand... In no time, even the Gym Leaders and the Champion will become unable to fight us. Having a Pokémon will be considered a bad thing! Even people like the sad little Bianca, whose Pokémon was stolen in Castelia, will be unable to face public opinion and will release their Pokémon! That's the kind of world we'll make!''
:''"You may have the Stone, but there's no chance whatsoever that the legendary Pokémon will accept you as the hero. So, if you're not willing to hand over your precious Pokémon, I suggest you search for some courage-- because you're going to need it!"''

====At Opelucid City====
:''"That's correct! Our lord N has combined his power with the legendary Dragon-type Pokémon and intends to create a new world. We herald the return of the hero of Unova, founder of this region.''
:''"Pokémon are different from people. They are living beings who contain unknown potential.''
:''"They are living beings from whom we humans have much to learn.''
:''"They are beings whose greatness we should acknowledge! Beings who should be freed from our oppression!''
:''"We, Team Plasma, invite you to join us! We all want to create a new world where people and Pokémon are both free! Ladies and gentlemen, I ask you now... Please, release your Pokémon. And so I end my plea to you today. Thank you one and all for your attention."''

====At N's Castle====
* Outside the throne room
:''"Welcome, holder of the Light Stone{{sup|Bl}}/Dark Stone{{sup|W}}. The castle that appeared as if it were enveloping the Pokémon League is a symbol. It means Unova will change."''
:''"The king of this castle is the strongest Trainer in the world. He is accompanied by the legendary Pokémon. He has defeated the Champion. Added to all that, his heart burns with the desire to improve the world. If that's not what makes a hero, what more do you need? Now that the stage is set, we can seize people's minds and hearts. We can bring into being the world that I--no, that Team Plasma--desires more easily than you can imagine! We and only we will use Pokémon, and we shall rule the powerless populace!''
:''"I've been waiting so long for this! I've kept my silence so no one could piece together what I planned. Now, those painful days are at an end!"''
:''"Go! Onward!"''
:''"Discover whether you have what it takes to be a hero!"''
:''"Go! Holder of the Light Stone{{sup|Bl}}/Dark Stone{{sup|W}}! In this room, you can learn whether you, too, can be a hero!"''

* After N is defeated
:''"After all of that, do you think you're still worthy of sharing the name Harmonia with me? You good-for-nothing boy!''
:''"To start with, I spurred N into pursuing ideals{{sup|Bl}}/the truth{{sup|W}}. The reason we reawakened the legendary Pokémon now was to give MY Team Plasma more power! Power to control the fearful masses! That at least was well done.''
:''"After saying you had to put your beliefs on the line and battle to see which one chosen by the legendary Pokémon was the true hero... You lost to an ordinary Trainer! There is such a thing as being too stupid! Add it up, and you are nothing more than a warped, defective boy who knows nothing but Pokémon...''
:''"<Player>! I never would have thought the legendary Pokémon would choose a Trainer like you! It caught me completely off guard. This doesn't change my goal. My plans have not been disturbed! In order to rule this world utterly, in order to manipulate the hearts of people who know nothing, I will have N be the king of Team Plasma. But, for that to work, you-- since you know the truth-- You must be eliminated!"''
:''"That was just a convenient lie that I needed to create Team Plasma. Use your head. What's to be gained from letting go of useful things like Pokémon? Certainly, manipulating Pokémon helps people expand their possibilities. That much, I can agree with. So it naturally follows that only I should be able to use Pokémon!"''
:''"You can say whatever you want. A Pokémon, even if it's revered as a deity, is still just a Pokémon. <Player>, so what if it chose you! That doesn't mean you're a threat. Come on! Now you'll face ME in battle! I can't wait to see the look on your face when you've lost all hope!"''
:''"I won't allow anyone to stop me! No matter who does what!"''

* After first move of battle
:''"I was expecting exactly that kind of move!"''

*When defeated
:''"My calculations... No! My careful schemes! The world should be mine!"''

*After being defeated
:''"What?! I created Team Plasma with my own hands. I'm absolutely perfect! I AM PERFECTION! I am the perfect ruler of a perfect new world!"''
:''"Mwa ha ha! Since I couldn't become the hero and obtain the legendary Pokémon myself... I prepared someone for that purpose--N! He's nothing more than a freak without a human heart. Do you think you're going to get through to a warped person like that?!"''



==In the manga==
[[File:Ghetsis Adventures.png|thumb|225px|Ghetsis in Pokémon Adventures]]
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
Ghetsis first appeared in [[Accumula Town]] in [[Team Plasma]]'s campaign to let the people free their Pokémon to be truly equal with them, which proved effective on the citizens of the town, with many of them releasing their Pokémon.

==Trivia==
* The top of Ghetsis's robes resembles the battlements of a castle.
* Ghetsis's {{p|Hydreigon}} is [[Level#Underleveled Pokémon|underleveled]]; {{p|Zweilous}} does not evolve until level 64.
* Ghetsis is the only antagonist in the main games that uses a [[pseudo-legendary]] Pokémon.
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==Names==
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| ゲーチス ''Gēchisu''
| From "{{wp|G (musical note)|G}}" and "{{wp|C♯ (musical note)|Cis}}" (C♯), the pitches of the timpanis used in his battle theme. The combination of "G" and "Cis" is a {{wp|tritone}}, previously referred to as ''Diabolus en Musica'' (The Devil in the Music) in the 18th century. Could also be romanized as Goetis, derived from Goetia, Greek for "sorcery".
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|English
|Ghetsis
|Corrupted romanization of Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|French
|Ghetis
|Romanization of Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|German
|G-Cis
|Romanization of Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Italian
|Ghecis
|Romanization of Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Spanish
|Ghechis
|Romanization of Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Korean
|게치스 ''Gecis''
|Transliteration of Japanese name
|}
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|- style="background:#FFF;"
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|- style="background:#FFF;"
| English
| Harmonia
| Same as Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Spanish
| Armonia
| From ''armonía'', harmony.
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Talk:Tobias (Sinnoh)

2011-06-15T19:40:29Z

Ikarishipper900:

Talk:Phenac Stadium

2011-06-14T02:07:56Z

Ikarishipper900: /* Stub? */

==Stub?==
This article was listed as a featured stub a couple of days ago. This is what got me in to editing these 7 Orre colosseum articles. I suppose the other 6 are also non-stubs then? Sorry about that, newbie mistake I suppose.   →   '''[[User:Zelkova|Zelkova]]   [[User talk:Zelkova|(Talk)]]'''   21:06, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
:I didn't consider it to be of stub-level quality, so I removed the tag. However, it's still missing a few things so the incomplete label is still there. If you can think of anything else to add on any of the Colosseum pages, please do. Being "not a stub" really means "not ridiculously short"; it is not a definitive indicator of completeness. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:10, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
::Understood. I'm re-playing the game fully so I'll get there eventually.   →   '''[[User:Zelkova|Zelkova]]   [[User talk:Zelkova|(Talk)]]'''   21:12, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
:::Err, this article is still listed as a featured stub... heh.   →   '''[[User:Zelkova|Zelkova]]   [[User talk:Zelkova|(Talk)]]'''   17:04, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
:::::The featured stubs list is changed much more infrequently than the articles' stub status..... It's not uncommon to have featured stubs that are no longer stubs. (I asked about this on a different article.) [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 02:07, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

==Image quality==
Not sure if this is the appropriate place to bring it up, but some of those trainers have really bad images. '''Wynd Fox''' 16:27, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Arceus (Pokémon)/Archive 2

2011-06-09T02:33:30Z

Ikarishipper900:

{{Forme info|493{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|0=-Unknown|2=-Fighting|3=-Flying|4=-Poison|5=-Ground|6=-Rock|7=-Bug|8=-Ghost|9=-Steel|10=-Fire|11=-Water|12=-Grass|13=-Electric|14=-Psychic|15=-Ice|16=-Dragon|17=-Dark}}.png|{{arceustype}}|{{arceustype}}|[[Form differences#Arceus|Arceus's Formes]], as affected by its [[ability]], {{a|Multitype}}|Arceus as though it {{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1=were not holding a [[plate]]|0=has been [[cheating|hacked]]|were holding the {{DL|Plate|{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|2=Fist|3=Sky|4=Toxic|5=Earth|6=Stone|7=Insect|8=Spooky|9=Iron|10=Flame|11=Splash|12=Meadow|13=Zap|14=Mind|15=Icicle|16=Draco|17=Dread}} Plate|{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|2=Fist|3=Sky|4=Toxic|5=Earth|6=Stone|7=Insect|8=Spooky|9=Iron|10=Flame|11=Splash|12=Meadow|13=Zap|14=Mind|15=Icicle|16=Draco|17=Dread}} Plate}}}}, therefore being a{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|13|15=n}} {{type2|{{arceustype}}}} Pokémon|the type-themed color displays, the Pokéathlon stats entry shown on the page itself, the type effectiveness entry shown on the page itself, the moves noted as [[Same-type attack bonus|STAB]] for this Pokémon, the sprite shown in the evobox, the sprites shown in the spritebox, and the plate sprite shown below the spritebox|second}}
==Archives==
*[[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (discussions from October 13, 2006 – December 13, 2008)

== Hmmm.... ==

Is the color and box from the Tutoring Moveset (I think) supposed to be expanding past the sprite box? I see the Rock type stuff, if that matters. (No, I don't think it is my browser, other Pokémon's pages are still fine) [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 14:13, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:I have fixed it stop the problem was that he closed the time, not the tutor box stop[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

==Out of intrest==

Has anyone tried to see if Arceus' ??? type forme is in PBR? [[User:Zsaberslash|Zsaberslash]] 20:52, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
:And possibly in Platinum, as well? In a method other than cheating? --[[User:Bulbapedian|Bulbapedian]] - [[User talk:Bulbapedian|Talk]] 20:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

== Picture ==

Instead of fanart
...shouldn't we use something OFFICIAL
even if its just a PBR screenshot, or a sprite
--[[User:LilRed|LilRed]] 00:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
:The fanart fulfills our needs best. Besides, the official artwork is only a couple of months away now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 00:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
::If they'll release an official artwork of Arceus, does it mean that Arceus is officially released also?[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 06:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Yes, this is what it would seem like. It's predicted to be released at a similar time to the next movie. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:56, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
::::How on Earth did whoever drew that picture get it so perfect when the sprite is so tiny? They must have got something wrong surely? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 19:36, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yes, the artist, Seyanni, did get several details wrong from what we now know about the features of Arceus. First of all, the face has two lines running across it, not just one. There are grey triangles on the inside of each of its legs, and the red parts of its eyes have black slits, like Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina. In addition, the wheel is more pointed and the green circles he/she drew are actually gems. So, really, like I've said before, this fanart is far from accurate, but now there's really no need to replace it (though I've given the site several months to use my own artwork (http://xous54.deviantart.com/art/Arceus-Final-106548360), which is, of course, more accurate) when Arceus is set to be revealed on the 15th (with a leak anywhere from the 12th to the 14th). (Of course, the Pokémon set to be revealed could also be something else.) [[User:Xous|Xous]] 18:16, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

== Reveal ==

Looking at Darkrai and Shaymin's, it seems that the reveal will be just around February 14, 2009. Isn't that convenient. So I'd like to notify you all... don't bother with it until then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:52, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it is expected to be leaked today, and officially revealed on January 19.--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 13:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

:Listen to the Editor-in-Chief. Don't bother until the reveal. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 13:54, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

And TTE is right. I think he has psychic abilities. -[[User:Anangryzapdos|Anangryzapdos]] 19:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

== ???-type Explanation Doesn't Make Sense ==

One of our members brought up a good point about the explanation (in this article) about why Nintendo put the ??? Arceus in the game. We think that it was put in because Nintendo's code for Multitype required a sprite to be filled for every single type. This is our best guess, and I certainly think it's more plausible than "preventing game crashes for hackers." Hackers can crash the game quite easily otherwise - why would they prevent it in one way when we can do it in a thousand other ways? Remember, Nintendo doesn't care for or even acknowledge hackers. -[[User:Coolbho3000|Coolbho3000]] 00:33, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:Following that logic, why put a vestigial Safari Zone in GSC? Why make it harder to access MissingNo in Yellow and impossible in FrLg? Like it or not, Nintendo has put many things in for the purpose of preventing crashes. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 04:59, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
::The Safari Zone in G/S/C was there because it was originally supposed to be in there, but they decided later not to include it. And Missingno. was excluded from later games because it was a glitch that was accessible without cheats. They took it out for the same reason that they hire game testers: they want their games to be as glitch-free as possible. And it did cause crashes, but it could be accessed without cheats, unlike the ???-type Arceus. I agree with Coolbho.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 13:51, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Animated sprite. ==

It doesn't change for me. It's just the regular Arceus. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:57, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:you maam are using Internet Explorer. that is an animated .png, which your browser does not support. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:59, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::Don't you think that's a little unfair for people who prefer to user IE? What's wrong with just using a gif file? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:02, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::lesser quality. take it up with TTE. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:03, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::You should use Firefox. D: -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 01:05, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I have used it and I hated it. It made my computer move incredibly slow. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:16, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::How many addons did you give it? That's usually what kills it. I mean, mine's running using 118,784K, next most is Windows Explorer with not even 10% of that much. It's a given with the 13 extensions I have for it... Anyway, Opera's most recent release supports anipngs too, or so I've heard. Given, I plan to make ''that'' specific spritecycle a gif again, since the whole point of that is to animate. Other anipngs you don't lose much with them being not animated. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:35, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Google chrome doesn't accept anipngs, and firefox takes an age to start up for me. I also hate IE. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|f80|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|f80|Ori}}{{Colored link|User:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|08f|gami}}''' 11:28, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::: It works on opera just fine, Who uses IE nowadays anyway? And Mozilla's slow.... too slow.--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]-[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 11:52, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Anyway, I recommend you try Opera, if you haven't done so. It's light, fast, simple to use, secure, stable, complete and free so you don't have to worry. And it'll still work with Windows 98. XD Besides, it's MS's fault for not giving better support for web standards 'cause it's "cooler" to use their own. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:45, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

== ???-type arceus existance ==

If anyone can hack platinum and try changing arceus' type to ???-type and it appears then its existance is official, anybody care and try?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 12:22, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:We have the sprite. That's all the proof you need. '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 14:01, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

sorry, forgot about that. --[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 14:03, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

== origin ==

there is a legend in arab myths that says that god created a horse from the north wind and it was the frist being on earth, arceus is a horse and the first Pokémon in existance, should we add this to the origin part in the article?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:29, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:That seems more like an origin for Suicune, because of the north wind bit... Though Suicune isn't a horse. I don't know, it might be a legitimate origin.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 14:15, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Arceus reminds me of the andalites from the animorphs books except it only has two eyes and no arms or tail. However in the movie it can speak with telepathy. Did any one else notice the similarities or am I just insane?--[[User:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] 17:41, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

== ... ==

I saw this likely vandalism in the tivia section:

At level 80, Arceus is the second highest level non-glitch Pokémon available for capture. The highest is Magikarp which can be caught at level 100 in Pokémon Platinum. It is, however, still the highest level legendary Pokémon available for capture.

I am hoping this is a joke or vandalism.

[[User:Alakazam 2|Alakazam 2]]

:Check {{p|Magikarp}}'s article. It's a legit piece of trivia. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 07:04, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

==Official Art==
Here we have it, Sugimori's Art for it, taken directly from the site.
<img>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/export/sites/default/special/arcus/img/arcus_01.jpg</img>--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 02:18, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:http://i42.tinypic.com/23s8bon.png Is that acceptable? I got it from the Japanese site. I know, it's a bit small.. --×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 02:39, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::the official image is already on the page. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:49, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:::OIC. I posted the wrong image, though. Twas an anime art. D: ×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 10:33, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::::PokéBeach has cut out all of the arts, including the official art, but WPM has requested that nobody use that art.
--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 15:00, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::::: Is their any artwork for the other types, or just Normal typed Arceus?[[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 22:19, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
New artwork (actually biggest):[[Image:Arceus lg.png|thumb|200px]]--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 01:57, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

==U.S. Reveal==

Since the page is locked, can one of the mods make a note about how it has not been revealed in the U.S., and probably won't be until early next year. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:44, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
:That's Anime art. Official Art is similar to it's Platinum Sprite.--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 03:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
::What does that have to do with my post? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I'll answer. That's not necessary to say. Besides, it's speculation. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:12, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Type-change grammar ==

Due to the special coding for Multitype, if the page changes to Electric or Ice, the grammar in the article becomes incorrect, displaying as "a Electric-type" or "a Ice-type". Since I have no idea how the coding works, and the fact that the page is protected anyway, would it be possible for someone to fix that bit of grammar on the Zap and Icicle versions of the page?

A minor error, but an error nonetheless. [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 03:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks for fixing it, TTE. [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 04:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Just realized the same grammar error is on this talk page... [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 22:06, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

:Should be fixed now... [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 22:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== Typer effectiveness box for ??? type ==

Considering the the ??? type can show up at random on this page should a type effectiveness box show up for it too? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 16:23, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:I guess I could do it. I don't know the numbers though, ar all types just normal effective?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 16:27, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::??? has no strengths and weaknesses; all types are normal. Learned this from {{m|Weather Ball}} and {{m|Shadow Sky}}. [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 16:50, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Just remembered that the page is protected so I can't actually change it. LOL!--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:44, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Don't bother. One, there's no way to access ??? Arceus, so it doesn't matter, and two, the type effectiveness of anything against the ???-type is NORMAL DAMAGE. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:48, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==Arceus to be in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky!==

Hi everybody, I just got information from Serebii.net today confirming Arceus will appear in the game as well as several other things as well. So the '''In Side Games''' section you can put that Arceus will make it's Mystery Dungeon debut in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky. --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 19:00, 12 March 2009 (UTC)Dialgafan1
:Unfortunately, it only appears as a statue and can't actually be encountered or recruited.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 14:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== English Pokémon Platinum Pokédex Entry. ==

The anglish Pokémon Platinum Pokédex Entry has been confirmed as ''"It is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing, then shaped the world. "'' May someone edit the page to include this? [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 20:43, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== Talk page glitch ==

I noticed when Arceus' page is ???-Type, the message on the top of the page says "DON'T ASK WHY ARCEUS IS A NORMAL-TYPE! It just IS!", incorrectly... [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 20:48, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
:It's because it changes on the second you access the page. Since you accessed the talk page on a different second than the article, it's different. If you go on the page and wait ''exactly'' 18 seconds (or a multiple thereof) then check here it should be good.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 20:54, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== US Platinum dex entry/page unlock ==

Can someone ''please'' unlock the page so that the English ''Platinum'' Dex entry can be added? And why was it even locked in the first place? [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 12:13, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
:Because of the upcoming movie and some impatient users. --'''[[User:Prongs|Prongs]] '''([[User Talk:Prongs|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Prongs|Contributions]])''' 12:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
::I you want, you can just add the entry here so that once admins are around, they could place it in the article. '''◄[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]►''' 12:16, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Someone already posted the Dex entry above me, but I guess I'll just copypaste it: ''It is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing, then shaped the world.'' And yes, I would want an admin to put it in if it's going to remain locked until the movie's release. [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 12:19, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Done. Thanks guys for noticing this. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 21:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

== Protected ==

Why is this page protected?--[[User:Tmwps|Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales]] 10:01, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:<nowiki>*</nowiki>cough* [[Movie 12]] *cough* '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 10:26, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

== Event Moves ==

Should the Event Moves (Spacial Rend, Roar of Time, Shadow Force) be added to its moveset? It knows these at Level 100 at the Japanese event this summer. {{unsigned|JacobCrystal}}

== Should we insert the Movie Arceus event? ==

I mean, Corocoro had already revealed that there is going to be an event in HGSS unlocked by Movie Arceus where the player can choose a Level 1 Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina. I think it should be worth noting that they should mention this in this article. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 13:19, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== Name origin ==

Hey guys, an idea had just sprouted in my head. The name might also come from the latin verb ''arceo'', which roughly translates to "I watch from a distance".
/[[User:Ziemniax|Ziemniax]]
:Actually, that word means "enclose". But it could still be a name origin, since Arceus was enclosed in the Hall of Origin.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 14:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Both of you are right. if it has a long e then it means "I watch from a distane" but a short e means "enclose"--[[User:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] 17:29, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus catch Trivia ==
As a point in the trivia I think it should be mentioned that Arceus is the only trio master (as of yet and i suspect always will be) not catchable by typical in-game mechanics instead needing to obtain an item solely distributed by a Nintendo event. All others are obtainable in their original generations via typical methods (i.e. just a simple in-game event or simply trading from a complimentary version) rather than and individual physically having to go to a Nintendo event to receive an item that cannot be obtained in games. I'm sorry if this point seems to sound redundant but I'm not sure if everyone will understand what I mean. -- [[User:D558|D558]] 06:21, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
:Psh, who says you have to go outside? You can WFC the Azure Flute... eventually... presumably... likely... in the future. But yes, that's a good point. Do it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:24, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
::I dunno if the page is protected or if my ability to edit pages has been taken away but I can't add this trivia... I guess i'll have to wait until it is unprotected or someone else will have to state this fact -- [[User:D558|D558]] 18:50, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible to have playable MP3 files to get Pokemon cries? I'm getting confused as to what Arceus' sounds like, because the text box says ''Dodogyuuun!'' and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcHrs4MXuzQ this movie]] has mediocre sound graphics and sounds like a hi-pitched vibrating and '''''Ayeayeaye!''''' - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] ([[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Giratina's_Embodiment|contribs]])'' 19:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
:I think Filb.de has them. I had all the Sinnoh ones at one point, but I may have deleted them when iTunes tried to be stupid with them. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:10, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
::[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/cries/493.mp3 Have a ball.] '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:27, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus infobox at the top of this page ==

Shouldn't this be in the article instead? What is it doing here? -- [[User:Socob|Socob]] ( [[User_talk:Socob|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Socob|Contribs]] ) 13:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:TTE found them too distracting for the articles. Here it's mostly a warning not to ask why Arceus is {{arceustype}}.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 16:39, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::I see. It does seem to be kind of messed up, too. -- [[User:Socob|Socob]] ( [[User_talk:Socob|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Socob|Contribs]] ) 12:48, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS Overworld ==

Isn't that cool if the page have the HGSS overworld?, other pokemon too {{unsigned|Arceus Vs Dragon Trio}}
:These will most likely be included somehow; we just need to work out where. It's been what, a day? Give us some time to get the images first. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:37, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== Name ==

Apparently (due to the Austrailian trailer floating around the Internets) Arceus's name is pronouced ARK-eus. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 13:11, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:There are so many pronunciations out there that Bulbapedia doesn't keep track of them. In the past there have been discrepancies between the anime and the "official" books, and even between multiple episodes of the anime. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:38, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

== 1000 arms??? ==

umm... just wondering...why does the Pokédex entry say that it has 1000 arms? I was looking at it and it has four hooves, no arms? Isn't it kind of weird to say it has 1000 arms and then when you see it it has no arms (or four if you count hooves as arms)?--[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 00:16, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
:Well, Arceus could retract them. Ask on the forums, because that is where this belongs. ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 00:30, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

== Okay ==

Derp. Hey. Multiform things always have the show/hide option because their other types can be freely switched to at will. Keep it that way. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:25, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

== Special Moves ==

Okay, someone really ought to add Shadow Force, Spacial Rend and Roar of Time to the "by events" section. If no one edits it or gives me a reason not to, I will add this ----GEN1[[User:Gen1king|KING]] ''([[User talk:TALK]])'' 04:49, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
:I have added the event moves section to the page. thank you.
----GEN1[[User:Gen1king|KING]] ''([[User talk:TALK]])'' 05:24, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
::Thank you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:25, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

==Arceus HAS appeared in side games==

WiiWare Mystery Dungeon. Need I say more? [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 17:30, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
:Agreed. So where is he in the game and i will gladly add it. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 12:48, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
::Cmon. Someone must know! [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:06, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Lol. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 16:25, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Come on! Come on! [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:56, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
arceus appears as a statue in explores of sky and in the new mystery dungeion pokeexlpores for the wii[[User:ArceusLX|arceusLX leveled up!]] 00:56, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

In mystery dungeon for wiiware, Arceus appears in a Wonder Mail W mission downloadable from wifi. It takes place in either final mountain, final cave, or final island. [[User:67h5r6h|67h5r6h]] 22:06, 18 July 2010 (UTC)67h5r6h

== Another possible name origin. ==

Could its name come from {{wp|arcus cloud}}? {{unsigned|Taromon777}}
:Likely not. The current ones seem more plausible to me. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:52, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

== Movie 12 Arceus ==

If you trade the Movie 12 Arceus from an English HG to an english SS, then can the event be activated in both games?[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 00:49, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:Most likely. When they come out we'll know for sure after somebody gets that far in both games. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 02:14, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

== Side Game Data ==

It appears in the new Ranger game. Someone should add it.--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 19:04, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

== Side Game Data ==

It appears in the new Ranger game. Someone should add it.--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 19:04, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:Added ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 13:57, 5 May 2010 (UTC))

==Image==
Umm... in article it's say "art from platinum" and on the image file it's say "released in HeartGold/SoulSilver. So, it's from Platinum or from HG/SS?
:Fixed. It looks to me like no-one got around to changing the caption when the art was updated. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 18:51, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

== Magic Plate? ==

I own a Diamond and Pearl guide that tells you what to do after you beat the game, and it has a section in there about the Underground. In it, it has a list of items you can find, and in that list, they have a Magic Plate. I don't know what's going on, because nobody's mentioned it before. Perhaps it's because I got an early version of the book? [[User:Pawsrent|Pawsrent]] 18:25, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe a beta name for the Mind Plate? How many plates does it list? If it only lists 16 plates than it may be a typo/beta name for one of the existing plates. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:57, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

== Article vandalism/Error in code ==

It seems that all moveset, type and all other special coding from section Type effectiveness -> With Mind Plate up to Name Origin is either wrong or Media Wiki has some problems parsing it. --[[User:PewnyPL|PewnyPL]] 19:46, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:Do you mean something where it shows a bunch of red links, because if so, I see it to. It is also in the template size exceeded category. I think it has too many templates being used. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 19:59, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::Yup, that's what I meant. And the thing about exceeding number of templates seems possible --[[User:PewnyPL|PewnyPL]] 20:05, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Given that all those redlinks are existing templates, it seems that yes, it is due to too many templates. The main question is how to reduce that without losing information. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:17, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Well, there are two things I can think of.
::::One of them is creating a new Pokéathlon Template, that would contain all of the Plates (specially for Arceus) with would require only to use the template with stats from all of them (although I'm not sure if there is a limit to how much data you can hand over to a template)
::::The second one is to change all link-Templates (those that just generate links to other articles) to normal links to articles
::::--[[User:PewnyPL|PewnyPL]] 20:30, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

== Highest level legendary? ==

Wasn't there a level 100 event Regigigas? [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 00:19, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:The article says available for capture. You don't need to capture the Regigigas. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 00:48, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

== 13,933? ==

Excuse me if I'm wrong, but the formula (as stated [[Experience#Gain_in_battle|here]]) makes a captured Arceus give (even if the owner's Pokémon is foreign and traded) only 7,071(.428571) at level 100. 
a= 2.2 
b= 225 
L=100. 
2.2 × 225 = 495 495 × 100 = 49,500 49,500 ／ 7 = 7,071.428571. Either this page is wrong, the formula is, or I am. Thanks [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 16:46, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:You have ''b'' as 225, but it's 255. That's your error. --[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 16:52, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::I just did the math with 255 as ''b'', and by my calculations, even with a foreign language Arceus and a Lucky Egg, the total experience earned would be 12,021. That's odd. :/--[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 16:57, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I got that the first time too. Sorry, I should of used the history on my calculator. Well, which is wrong then? How do we find out? [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 12:52, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Just did the math. I am getting 13,933. I did this:
(1.7 * 1.5 * 1.5 * 255 * 100)/7

(Wining pokemon foreign traded * Opposing pokemon owned by trainer * Wining pokemon holding lucky egg * base exp * level 100)/7
[[User:Mark342|Mark342]] 21:35, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

:They have changed the formula. It didn't work before. This [[File:Exp.png]] is the previous one. The new one works. Thanks anyway, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 21:13, 27 July 2010 (UTC).

== Explorers of Sky ==

I have tried, but I can't get rid of the part on the [[template:Sidegame|Sidegame]] template that includes Explorers of Sky. It wasn't in the Game, so does anyone know how to get rid of this? It's a little misleading. Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 23:03, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

== Name origin ==

About the name origin. For me, the most simple theory is not so clearly mentioned in the current name origin section. My theory is: Arceus is just a transcription of "archeos" from latin (meaning archaich). This was confirmed with the newest trailers that pronounce "Arceus" exactly like "archeos" is pronounced. It is the most direct and simple someone can think of, it's more or less the same process used for other Pokémon name such as Luvdisc, since "luv" has the same pronountiation as "love".

== izanagi and izanami ==

If Japan and Gods is created, it seems to be worth describing to trivia. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 12:37, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

My remark on the page of the edit became interrupted. Arceus lives in the interior of Spear Pillar. There are a spear and a point of contact of the creation of the Shintoism myth. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 07:27, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:But would that not mean that Arceus would have to be two, and not one? I think Dialga and Palkia, both met at Spear Pillar itself, better represent the two, with Giratina representing what happened to Izanami after Kagu-tsuchi burned her. Arceus created the universe... Dialga and Palkia were the ones who created Spear Pillar, and from it, Sinnoh. Arceus is above them. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:49, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

::Thank you for correcting my English.
::It is said that it is izanami and izanagi that it gave birth to the gods for the first time by the myth of Shintoism. Kunitokotachi and Amenominakanushi doesn't make the gods though Kunitokotachi and Amenominakanushi is the first god. There are izanami(izanagi) and a lacking part because neither Dialga nor Palkia make "Legend pokeomn". It is guessed that the ability of izanagi and izanami that creates the gods is equipped in Arceus.
::I am satisfied with the sentence that Mr. TTEchidna corrected. It is not necessary to discuss it any further.
[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 08:33, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

== Colour Changing Articles ==

I know but it seems kind of pointless, when I fist read the article I thought you'd made a mistake calling it a Dragon-type and when I scrolled down I thought you'd lost your marbles when you were indicating pokeathlon stats for its Bug forme specifically. The Pokedex on the games treats it as a Normal-type. We don't have different coloured articles for Kecleon or Castform and they don't need to be holding special items to change forme. I think leaving it as Normal-type is most convenient and less confusing, also we have articles displaying what TMs and HMs it can learn as different types so why bother with all this. [[User:Lucky V4.0|Lucky V4.0]] 14:27, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:Its probably because Arceus has different Performance stats for its forms, its attack has different type for plate held, and because its sprite changes too. Too just list it all would make the page too long if it weren't hidden. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:32, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
::I'm not suggesting have everything listed for all types. However it would be easier to select which type you want instead of it being random each time. [[User:Lucky V4.0|Lucky V4.0]] 15:22, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:::I know. But I'm pretty sure with {{bp|wikicode}} you can't do that, unless each type had their own page. At least with the random function you have a 1/17 chance of getting the one you want. If not, then just use the show/hide function. The only difference would be the template colors. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:32, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== Type Change ==

I've ranted on this subject time and time again but isn't it misleading for someone to come across this article and for it to say that Arceus is a Ghost or Ice type (or whatever type that shows up) when Arceus is Normal-type but changes due to an item. This is no different than making Kecleon's page change types randomly because of Color Change, except for what color Arceus changes to, or listing every Pokémon with the chance of having the ability Mummy since any Pokémon except for Arceus and Shedinja can have the Mummy ability. I believe that Arceus needs to be listed as a Normal type as it naturally is when no items are held, just like how Kecleon is when it hasn't been hit by a foe's move or how a Marill is before being hit by a foe with the ability mummy. Does anyone else agree? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:37, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
:How is it misleading? The intro sentence of this artticle clearly states: "Arceus (Japanese: アルセウス Arceus) is a Normal-type legendary Pokémon. However, its type will change when it is holding one of sixteen items known as plates and can in reality be any type. " —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 21:42, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, exactly it says it's a Normal-type (Because naturally it is) while the templates might say it's a Poison-type when this isn't always the case, yeah so it's not always Normal-type either but may I remind you of Kecleon? Or maybe we can say that its type "varies", but I'd rather leave the templates as if it's a Normal-type. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:15, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
:::What's the big deal? The Kecleon example you are using... the type is not permanent after battle, hence why Porygon nor Pokémon with Camouflage is on here as well. Kecleon and Porygon... they were Normal-type prior to battle, and they are still Normal-type after battle. The difference is that Arceus's type is permanent from before battle and after battle. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:18, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Yeah, but it isn't a natural Water or Grass-type, it is a Water or Grass type only when holding their respective plates, but naturally, without the use of an item, Arceus is a Normal-type, if they came up with an item called Aqua Sponge that turned Water-types into Normal-types we wouldn't make every Water-type Pokémon's page rotate from Normal to Water, of course I know the difference is that would be affecting a lot more pages but I still think it's misleading and somewhat confusing with the Forme rotation. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 01:14, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::It changes because it's a form difference if Kecleon changed its sprite then we could do something with it.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 04:23, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::Kecleon does not actually change forms; if {{a|Color Change}} counted as changing forms, we could say that all Pokémon do due to Color Change being {{m|Skill Swap}}pable. However, Arceus does actually change forms. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:37, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Isn't that why we have this, [[File:Arceus Formes.gif]] in order to demonstrate all formes? In fact we could use something like this in the sprite template couldn't we? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 19:40, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I agree with Landfish7. This whole page changing is crazy!--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 19:47, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::I hadn't ever really looked at this page before, but I recently needed to check up on something about Arceus. I was completely baffled to see it was labled as an Electric-type. It took me nearly a minute to understand what was going on. The type changes ARE really confusing, especially for people viewing the page for the first time. [[User:Moltres93|Moltres93]] 11:44, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::I think if we HAVE to keep it like this at ''least'' put the informer on the page itself instead of the discussion.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:11, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::::P.S.We really need to start a continued section for this. Trying to count the correct number of :'s is driving me crazy!--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:14, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

== Dream art in info box ==

Yeah. It's pretty cool it changes with the type. But... every other article uses Sugimori art. And it's better looking. So... what do we do here? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:49, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
:I thought the plan was to have them alternate every so often between normal and Dream... I'd definitely keep the Normal art for now though.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 22:47, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
::It uses the game artwork when the page is on the {{type|???}}. [[Typhlosion|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon|★]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]] 22:51, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
::: I'm new, but I thought we used the artwork from the generation the pokemon is from (DP), so why is there dream world artwork? [[User:S and T|S and T]] 05:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
::::We generally use the most recent, rather than the generation they are from (except anniversaries of the generations). See {{p|Marill}} and its current use of FR/LG art. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:23, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

== Umm... ==

In The Rise of Darkrai, I think I heard Arceus' name (that giant, winged light ball thing at the end of the movie) being pronounced "Ar-see-ay". Is that worth adding to the trivia? (I would appreciate verification, as this was a long time ago that I saw the movie).--[[User:Silentzerox|Silentzerox]] 02:22, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

== "[Type]-Type Dream World art by '''Ken Sugimori'''" ==

Since when was Ken confirmed to be the one who made the dream world art? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 22:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

== Type discussion ==

Anyone who see the link to the right is invited to [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=98239 The Great Arceus Debate]. —[[User:Venomoth|'''''V'''e№moth'']][[User talk:Venomoth| ♦]] 00:58, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

== Um? ==

Every time I go to the page, it's using the Fighting-type template. I've tried about ten times. I'm using Firefox, if that helps find the problem. [[User:EnosShayrem|EnosShayrem]] 05:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
:Firefox might be caching the page. Try pressing Ctrl + F5 to clear Firefox's cache and reload the page? [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:55, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
::Yeah, I had thought of that, but didn't do it. But it's working now for some reason. Quitting Fire fox and opening it later seems to have worked. [[User:EnosShayrem|EnosShayrem]] 20:36, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

I find this type confusion that you guys are creating a great annoyance, and plain out stupid. Let's just say that someone was researching Arceus, and used Bulbapedia. The whole template is colored, yellow with the type and image indicating that it's an electric type. It just doesn't make any sense why you don't just state that he is capable of type change, while leaving the template in his default form? --[[User:Christopher Costello|Christopher Costello]] 19:24, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
:Because if you took the time to read the first few lines of the article you can see it clearly states that it can change forms. Bulbapedia is about the article information stated the templates are for neatness and visual aid. so it's not "Plain out stupid" for it shows all of Arceus's forms. It doesn't always stay yellow it changes color everytime you visit the page. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 19:31, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

== ??? arceus transfered? ==
What happens if a ??? type arceus is hacked into the game then someone tries to transfer it to black/white? [[User:Savelijah|Savelijah]] 17:55, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

==Contradiction?==
The trivia section says this: "Arceus's signature move, Judgment, is the only move that Arceus is guaranteed STAB for, as it is always the same type as Arceus itself. '''However, on the battle screen, Judgment is always displayed as a Normal-type attack.'''" With the rotating type change, Judgement also changes in the moveset. I don't mind the templates changing on the page - I think it's kind of cool - but can Judgement be changed to always be Normal? [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 02:33, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

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| class="roundy" style="background: #FFFFFF;" colspan="2" | http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/128/1/b/platinum_dawn_and_emerald_may_by_avianalia-d3fq7v3.png These represent the current games.
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{{!}} class="roundytr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} 1,000,000}}
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{{#if: |! class="{{#ifeq: no|no|roundybl}}" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} {{color2|000|Birthday}}
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{{!}} style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Black}}
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{{#ifeq: no|yes|! class="roundybl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Hair color
{{!}} class="roundybr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Black}}
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! class="roundytl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" | {{color|000|Hometown}}
| class="roundytr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" | [[Twinleaf Town]], [[Littleroot Town]]
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| class="{{#ifeq: Unknown|Unknown|roundybr}}" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" | [[Sinnoh]], [[Hoenn]]
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{{#ifeq: Unknown|Unknown||! class="roundybl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Relatives
{{!}} class="roundybr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Unknown}}
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{{#ifeq: Unknown|Unknown||! class="roundytl {{#ifeq: yes|no|roundyleft}}" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} {{color2|000|Trainer class}}
{{!}} class="roundytr {{#ifeq: yes|no|roundyright}}" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Unknown}}
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{{#ifeq: yes|yes|! {{#ifeq: Unknown|Unknown|class="roundytl"}} style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Generation
{{!}} {{#ifeq: Unknown|Unknown|class="roundytr"}} style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} [[Generation IV|IV]], [[Generation III|III]]}}
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{{#ifeq: yes|yes|! class="roundybl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Games
{{!}} class="roundybr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} {{game|Platinum}}, {{game|Emerald}}}}
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{{#ifeq: yes|counterpart|! class="roundyleft" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} [[List of cross-canon counterparts|{{color|000|Game counterpart}}]]
{{!}} class="roundyright" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Rick Astley}}
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{{#ifeq: no|yes|! class="roundytl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Leader of
{{!}} class="roundytr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} [[Viridian Gym]]}}
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{{#ifeq: no|yes|! style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Badge
{{!}} style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} [[Earth Badge]]}}
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{{#ifeq: no|yes|! class="{{#ifeq: yes|no|roundytl}}" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Elite Four of
{{!}} class="{{#ifeq: yes|no|roundytr}}" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} [[Indigo Plateau]]}}
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{{#ifeq: no|yes|! class="{{#ifeq: yes|no|roundytl}} {{#ifeq: no|no|roundybl}}" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Champion of
{{!}} class="{{#ifeq: yes|no|roundytr}} {{#ifeq: no|no|roundybr}}" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} [[Indigo Plateau]]}}
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{{#ifeq: no|yes|! class="roundybl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Specializes in
{{!}} class="roundybr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Normal}}
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{{#ifeq: no|yes|! class="roundybl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Challenge
{{!}} class="roundybr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Dance in a circle}}
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{{#switch: no|yes=! class="roundytl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Brain of
{{!}} class="roundytr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} [[Battle Frontier (Generation III)#Battle Tower|Battle Tower]]|Pt=! class="roundytl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Brain of
{{!}} class="roundytr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} [[Battle Frontier (Generation IV)#Battle Tower|Battle Tower]]}}
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{{#ifeq: no|yes|! class="roundybl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} {{color2|000|Symbol}}
{{!}} class="roundybr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Ability Symbol}}
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{{#ifeq: no|Pt|! class="roundybl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} {{color2|000|Print}}
{{!}} class="roundybr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Tower Print}}
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{{#ifeq: no|yes|! class="roundytl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Member of
{{!}} class="roundytr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Team Whatever}}
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{{#ifeq: no|yes|! {{#ifeq: no|no|class="roundybl"}} style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Rank
{{!}} {{#ifeq: no|no|class="roundybr"}} style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Grunt}}
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{{#ifeq: no|yes|! class="roundybl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Partner
{{!}} class="roundybr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Billy Mays}}
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{{#ifeq: no|counterpart|! class="roundytl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Anime counterpart
{{!}} class="roundytr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Bill Nye}}
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{{#switch: no|cameo|yes|counterpart=! class="{{#ifeq: no|counterpart||roundytl}} {{#switch: no|cameo|counterpart=roundybl}}" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} {{#switch: no|yes=Anime debut|cameo=Anime cameos|counterpart=Counterpart debut|no=This should not appear}}
{{!}} class="{{#ifeq: no|counterpart||roundytr}} {{#switch: no|cameo|counterpart=roundybr}}" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} [[EP001|{{#if: |''{{{epname}}}''|EP001}}]]}}
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{{#ifeq: no|yes|! style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} English voice actor
{{!}} style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Jimmy Zoppi}}
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{{#ifeq: no|yes|! class="roundybl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Japanese voice actor
{{!}} class="roundybr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Kanako Yasaka}}
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{{#ifeq: no|counterpart|! class="roundytl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Manga counterpart(s)
{{!}} class="roundytr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Bill Nye}}
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{{#switch: no|yes|Adventures|counterpart=! class="{{#switch: no|yes|Adventures=roundytl}} roundybl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Debut {{#switch: no|Adventures=round|chapter}}
{{!}} class="{{#switch: no|yes|Adventures=roundyright}}" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} [[PS001|{{#if: |''{{{roundname}}}''|PS001}}]]}}
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'''Ikarishipper900''' is a relatively new member to Bulbapedia, although she is a long-time user. She is also known as '''{{tt|Jessi|in real life}}''' and '''{{tt|Aviana|on the Nuzlocke forum}}'''.

==On [[Bulbapedia]]==
Currently, Ikarishipper900 is working on the self-assigned task of filling in quotes for characters who lack them. Most characters fit this case. The model for thorough quotes is, at least for now, [[N]], who despite his incomplete template has most of his quotes logged. This task was approved by {{u|PsychicRider}} as well.

Ikarishipper900 has also stated a preference for uniformity in page layout, and as such changes the layout to the conventions on the [[Bulbapedia:Project CharacterDex|CharacterDex]] when necessary.

Like many new editors, Ikarishipper900 is having a tough time with the coding, but also like many new editors, she is doing her best to learn.

===Usertags===
Ikarishipper900 is constantly on the lookout for new usertags to insert here.
{{User Usertags}}

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====Ikarishipper900====
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{{User Trainer}}
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{{User Twerp}}
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{{User Shy}}
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{{User Drive}}
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{{User Rain}}
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{{User Sleep}}
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| style="color: #440077;" | This user doesn't know how to '''[[Spider Web (move)|shot web]]'''.
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{{User Sing}}
{{User Smart}}
{{User Types Quickly}}
{{User Computer|474}}
{{User Good Friend|311|312|{{water color}}|{{electric color}}|000000}}
{{User Ninjagirl}}
{{User Wish}}
{{User Dinosaurs|142}}
{{User Professor}}
{{User Sweet}}
{{User Nuisance}}
{{User Ketchup}}
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{{User GSDS}}
{{User Japan}}
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====Bulbapedia====
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{{User Pedia}}
{{User Manual}}
{{User Project CharacterDex}}
{{User Shipper}}
{{User Patrol}}
{{User No Vandal}}
{{User Help}}
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| style="background: #{{fighting color}}; color: #{{electric color}};" | This user wishes that there was no more '''<big><big><big>[[User_talk:Chocolate/Archive 7#I_might_leave_forever|drama]]</big></big></big>''' on Bulbapedia.
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====Ikarishipper900's favorites and hates====
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{{User Loves|Ritchie2.png|50|Ritchie|Ritchie}}
{{User Loves|Paul255.jpg|50|Paul|Paul}}
{{User Loves|Cilan anime.png|50|Cilan (anime)|Cilan}}
{{User Favorite Shipping|IkarishippingHint.png|IkariShipping}}
{{User Favorite Shipping|Drew_and_May_AG113.png|ContestShipping}}
{{User Favorite Shipping|Ashmistyholdhands.jpg|PokéShipping}}
{{User Favorite Shipping|WishfulShipping.png|WishfulShipping}}
{{User Favorite Shipping|HandymanShipping.png|HandymanShipping}}
{{User Favorite Shipping|LuckShipping.png|LuckShipping}}
{{User Region|Johto|HGSS_Johto.jpg}}
{{User Apricorn|Blu|Ball}}
{{User Favorite Type|006|Fire}}
{{User Favorite|359|Absol|dark}}
{{User Favorite|229|Houndoom|dark|fire}}
{{User Favorite|133|Eevee}}
{{User Favorite Legendary|494|Victini}}
{{User Favorite Baby|172|Pichu}}
{{User Favorite Normal|351|Castform}}
{{User Favorite Move|242|Return|Normal}}
{{User:Kenji-girl/User Favorite Specialist|VSLenora|Lenora|Lenora|Normal}}
{{User Favorite Fighting|560|Scrafty}}
{{User Favorite Move|214|Brick Break|Fighting}}
{{User:Kenji-girl/User Favorite Specialist|VSBruno|Bruno|Bruno|Fighting}}
{{User Favorite Flying|628|Braviary}}
{{User Favorite Move|468|Fly|Flying}}
{{User:Kenji-girl/User Favorite Specialist|SpriteWinona|Winona|Winona|Flying}}
{{User Favorite Poison|169|Crobat}}
{{User Favorite Move|073|Sludge Bomb|Poison}}
{{User:Kenji-girl/User Favorite Specialist|VSJanine|Janine|Janine|Poison}}
{{User Favorite Ground|330|Flygon}}
{{User Favorite Move|623|Earthquake|Ground}}
{{User:Kenji-girl/User Favorite Specialist|VSGiovanni|Giovanni|Giovanni|Ground}}
{{User Favorite Rock|248|Tyranitar}}
{{User Favorite Move|306|Stone Edge|Rock}}
{{User:Kenji-girl/User Favorite Specialist|VSBrock|Brock|Brock|Rock}}
{{User Favorite Bug|212|Scizor}}
{{User Favorite Move|589|Megahorn|Bug}}
{{User:Kenji-girl/User Favorite Specialist|VSBugsy|Bugsy|Bugsy|Bug}}
{{User Favorite Ghost|609|Chandelure}}
{{User Favorite Move|478|Shadow Ball|Ghost}}
{{User:Kenji-girl/User Favorite Specialist|VSMorty|Morty|Morty|Ghost}}
{{User Favorite Steel|227|Skarmory}}
{{User Favorite Move|448|Flash Cannon|Steel}}
{{User:Kenji-girl/User Favorite Specialist|RS_Steven|Steven|Steven|Steel}}
{{User Favorite Fire|257|Blaziken}}
{{User Favorite Move|157|Flamethrower|Fire}}
{{User:Kenji-girl/User Favorite Specialist|VSBlaine|Blaine|Blaine|Fire}}
{{User Favorite Water|419|Floatzel}}
{{User Favorite Move|503|Surf|Water}}
{{User:Kenji-girl/User Favorite Specialist|VSMisty|Misty|Misty|Water}}
{{User Favorite Grass|389|Torterra}}
{{User Favorite Move|470|Leaf Blade|Grass}}
{{User:Kenji-girl/User Favorite Specialist|VSCilan|Cilan|Cilan|Grass}}
{{User Favorite Electric|604|Eelektross}}
{{User Favorite Move|026|Thunderbolt|Electric}}
{{User:Kenji-girl/User Favorite Specialist|VSVolkner|Volkner|Volkner|Electric}}
{{User Favorite Psychic|475|Gallade}}
{{User Favorite Move|196|Psychic|Psychic}}
{{User:Kenji-girl/User Favorite Specialist|VSWill|Will|Will|Psychic}}
{{User Favorite Ice|584|Vanilluxe}}
{{User Favorite Move|473|Ice Beam|Ice}}
{{User:Kenji-girl/User Favorite Specialist|VSCandice|Candice|Candice|Ice}}
{{User Favorite Dragon|230|Kingdra}}
{{User Favorite Move|445|Dragon Rush|Dragon}}
{{User:Kenji-girl/User Favorite Specialist|VSLance|Lance|Lance|Dragon}}
{{User Favorite Dark|461|Weavile}}
{{User Favorite Move|625|Night Slash|Dark}}
{{User:Kenji-girl/User Favorite Specialist|VSGrimsley|Grimsley|Grimsley|Dark}}
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| style="background: #000000; color: #ffffff;" | This user hates '''[[HM|HM moves]]'''.
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{{User Hates|399.png|65px|Bidoof (Pokémon)|Bidoof}}
{{User Hates|400.png|65px|Bibarel (Pokémon)|Bibarel}}
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====Anime====
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{{User WatchAnime|Cartoon Network}}
{{User Original Series}}
{{User Advanced Generation}}
{{User Diamond & Pearl}}
{{User Best Wishes}}
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====Pokémon====
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{{User Fire|157}}
{{User Water|230}}
{{User Ice|584}}
{{User Ground|623}}
{{User Non-legendary|387}}
{{User Breeding}}
{{User Baby Kangaskhan}}
{{User No Cheating}}
{{User TMphobia}}
{{User Jirachi}}
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====Games====
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=====Pokémon=====
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{{User All Generations}}
{{User Red}}
{{User Starter|Spr 1b 004|Charmander}}
{{User Champion|R}}
{{User Blue}}
{{User Starter|Spr 1b 007|Squirtle}}
{{User Champion|B}}
{{User Yellow}}
{{User Champion|Y}}
{{User TCG GB}}
{{User Gold}}
{{User Starter|Spr 2g 158|Totodile}}
{{User Champion|G}}
{{User Silver}}
{{User Starter|Spr 2s 155|Cyndaquil}}
{{User Champion|S}}
{{User Crystal}}
{{User Starter|Spr 2g 152|Chikorita}}
{{User Champion|C}}
{{User Sapphire}}
{{User Starter|Spr 3r 258|Mudkip}}
{{User Champion|Sa}}
{{User Ruby}}
{{User Starter|Spr 3r 252|Treecko}}
{{User Champion|Ru}}
{{User Emerald}}
{{User Starter|Spr 3r 255|Torchic}}
{{User Champion|E}}
{{User FireRed}}
{{User Starter|Spr 3f 001|Bulbasaur}}
{{User Champion|FR}}
{{User LeafGreen}}
{{User Starter|Spr 3f 004|Charmander}}
{{User Champion|LG}}
{{User Colosseum}}
{{User XD}}
{{User Starter|196|Espeon}}
{{User Mystery Dungeon Red}}
{{User Ranger}}
{{User Pearl}}
{{User Starter|Spr 4d 390|Chimchar}}
{{User Champion|P}}
{{User Diamond}}
{{User Starter|Spr 4d 393|Piplup}}
{{User Champion|D}}
{{User Platinum}}
{{User Starter|Spr 4p 387|Turtwig}}
{{User SoulSilver}}
{{User Starter|Spr 4h 152|Chikorita}}
{{User Champion|SS}}
{{User Defeated Red}}
{{User Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Darkness}}
{{User Dash}}
{{User Battle Revolution}}
{{User Black}}
{{User Starter|Spr 5b 501|Oshawott}}
{{User Champion|Bl}}
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{{User Smash Bros. Brawl}}
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====Sonic====
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| style=" color: #{{fighting color}};" | This user's favorite Sonic character is '''[[wp:Amy Rose|Amy Rose]]'''.
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! style="background: #{{ground color}};{{#switch:{{{moz|yes}}}|yes=-moz-border-radius: 60px;|no=}}" | [[Image:427.png|60px]]
| style=" color: #{{fire color}};" | This user's favorite Sonic character is '''[[wp:Cream the Rabbit|Cream the Rabbit]]'''.
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{| class="userboxitem" style="border: 1px solid #{{fighting color dark}}; background: #{{dark color light}};{{#switch:{{{moz|yes}}}|yes=-moz-border-radius: 60px;|no=}}" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"
! style="background: #{{dark color}};{{#switch:{{{moz|yes}}}|yes=-moz-border-radius: 60px;|no=}}" | [[Image:461.png|60px]]
| style=" color: #{{fighting color}};" | This user's favorite Sonic character is '''[[wp:Shadow the Hedgehog|Shadow the Hedgehog]]'''.
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{| class="userboxitem" style="border: 1px solid #{{dark color}}; background: #{{poison color dark}};{{#switch:{{{moz|yes}}}|yes=-moz-border-radius: 60px;|no=}}" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"
! style="background: #{{poison color}};{{#switch:{{{moz|yes}}}|yes=-moz-border-radius: 60px;|no=}}" | [[Image:352.png|60px]]
| style=" color: #{{poison color light}};" | This user's favorite Sonic character is '''[[wp:Espio the Chameleon|Espio the Chameleon]]'''.
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{| class="userboxitem" style="border: 1px solid #{{fighting color dark}}; background: #{{fighting color}};{{#switch:{{{moz|yes}}}|yes=-moz-border-radius: 60px;|no=}}" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"
! style="background: #{{fire color}};{{#switch:{{{moz|yes}}}|yes=-moz-border-radius: 60px;|no=}}" | [[Image:530 s.png|60px]]
| style=" color: #{{fire color light}};" | This user's favorite Sonic character is '''[[wp:Knuckles the Echidna|Knuckles the Echidna]]'''.
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{| class="userboxitem" style="border: 1px solid #{{fire color dark}}; background: #{{steel color light}};{{#switch:{{{moz|yes}}}|yes=-moz-border-radius: 60px;|no=}}" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"
! style="background: #{{steel color}};{{#switch:{{{moz|yes}}}|yes=-moz-border-radius: 60px;|no=}}" | [[Image:418.png|60px]]
| style=" color: #{{fire color}};" | This user's favorite Sonic character is '''[[wp:Miles "Tails" Prower|Tails]]'''.
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{| class="userboxitem" style="border: 1px solid #{{water color dark}}; background: #{{water color light}};{{#switch:{{{moz|yes}}}|yes=-moz-border-radius: 60px;|no=}}" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"
! style="background: #{{water color}};{{#switch:{{{moz|yes}}}|yes=-moz-border-radius: 60px;|no=}}" | [[Image:492 s.png|60px]]
| style=" color: #{{water color dark}};" | This user's favorite Sonic character is '''[[wp:Sonic the Hedgehog|Sonic the Hedgehog]]'''.
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{| class="userboxitem" style="border: 1px solid #{{grass color dark}}; background: #{{bug color light}};{{#switch:{{{moz|yes}}}|yes=-moz-border-radius: 60px;|no=}}" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"
! style="background: #{{bug color}};{{#switch:{{{moz|yes}}}|yes=-moz-border-radius: 60px;|no=}}" | [[Image:551 s.png|60px]]
| style=" color: #{{bug color dark}};" | This user's favorite Sonic character is '''[[wp:Vector the Crocodile|Vector the Crocodile]]'''.
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{{User Wi-Fi}}
{{User Read Unown}}
{{User Hat}}
{{User Donut}}
{{User Lost the Game}}
{{User No Mudkip}}
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{{User:Origamiguy/Prizes/Tag Below}}
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{{User Rickroll}}
{{User 300}}
{{User Frizzle}}
{{User Gible|Darth Vader is Luke's father}}
{{User Got Milk?}}
{{User Meme}}
{{User Sandiego}}
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| style="color: #505C10;" | <center>'''<big><big><big>[[Caterpie (Pokémon)|Caterpie]] sucks!</big></big></big>''' (Never, '''''ever''''' use it!)</center>
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{{User Blastoff}}
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| style=" color: #734131;" | I'm not gonna '''[[Raichu (Pokémon)|Raichu]]''' a '''[[wp:Love Song (Sara Bareilles song)|love song]]'''.
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==={{tt|Quotes|All quotes include verbal as well as typed}}===
====On {{ga|Barry}}'s page====
''"I had better not be the ONLY ONE getting these dumb quotes..."''

====On {{ga|Dawn}}'s page====
''"I really don't want to get the female character's quotes as an NPC... rrrgh."''

====On {{u|Ikarishipper900}}'s userspace{{tt|*|at any point}}====
''"Wait, what happened to Wing Attack?! That's not how that's supposed to look!"''

''"If you feel I am doing something in error, don't hesitate to correct me. :)"''

==In the games==
Ikarishipper900 has played all of the [[main series]] games, with the exception of {{game|HeartGold}} unintentionally and {{game|White}} because of time constraints, and has become the [[Pokémon Champion|Champion]] in all of these games. Most of these games were never recorded in any form.

===In {{game|Platinum}}===
In Platinum, Ikarishipper900 is using the name '''Jessi''', and her expressed purpose is to get quotes from the characters involved in the game (including {{ga|Barry}}, {{ga|Lucas}}, {{prof|Rowan}}, [[Looker]], [[Mars]], [[Charon]], [[Cheryl]], [[Cynthia]], and [[Jupiter]] so far). The copying of quotes greatly slows her progress, but she has earned [[Coal Badge|two]] [[Forest Badge|badges]] so far.

====Current Pokémon====
{{Party|
|color={{pearl color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color light}}
|bordercolor={{pearl color dark}}
|sprite=Pt Dawn.png
|prize={{PDollar}}24048
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Jessi
|game=Pt
|location=Route 205
|pokemon=6
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|ndex=418
|pokemon=Buizel
|nickname=Tails
|ability=Swift Swim
|level=21
|gender=male
|type1=Water
|move1=Aqua Jet
|move1type=Water
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Water Gun
|move2type=Water
|move2cat=Special
|move3=Pursuit
|move3type=Dark
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Swift
|move4type=Normal
|move4cat=Special}}

|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Platinum
|ndex=404
|pokemon=Luxio
|nickname=Nala
|ability=Intimidate
|level=21
|gender=female
|spritegender=female
|type1=Electric
|move1=Tackle
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Bite
|move2type=Dark
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Charge
|move3type=Electric
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Spark
|move4type=Electric
|move4cat=Physical}}

|pokemon5={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Platinum
|ndex=175
|pokemon=Togepi
|nickname=Spike
|ability=Hustle
|level=15
|gender=male
|type1=Normal
|held=Soothe Bell
|move1=Metronome
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Growl
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Yawn
|move3type=Normal
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Sweet Kiss
|move4type=Normal
|move4cat=Status}}

|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Platinum
|ndex=388
|pokemon=Grotle
|nickname=Juggernaut
|ability=Overgrow
|level=22
|gender=male
|type1=Grass
|held=Quick Claw
|move1=Razor Leaf
|move1type=Grass
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Bite
|move2type=Dark
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Cut
|move3type=Normal
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Rock Smash
|move4type=Fighting
|move4cat=Physical}}

|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4|game=Platinum
|ndex=077
|pokemon=Ponyta
|nickname=Seabiscuit
|ability=Flash Fire
|level=14
|gender=male
|type1=Fire
|move1=Tackle
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Flame Wheel
|move2type=Fire
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Stomp
|move3type=Normal
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Ember
|move4type=Fire
|move4cat=Special}}

|pokemon6={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Platinum
|ndex=280
|pokemon=Ralts
|nickname=Maximus
|ability=Trace
|level=17
|gender=male
|type1=Psychic
|held=none
|move1=Confusion
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Double Team
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Teleport
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Lucky Chant
|move4type=Normal
|move4cat=Status}}
}}

====Quotes====
=====At [[Oreburgh City]]=====
''"Yeah, I KNOW I'm slow, Barry. It's because you talk so much, though!"''

=====At [[Jubilife City]] (2nd Visit)=====
''"Oh my gosh. [[Professor Rowan]] is officially my favorite professor!"''

===In {{game|Emerald}}===
Ikarishipper900 is running through a [[Nuzlocke Challenge]] in Emerald under the name of '''Lia'''. She is using these rules:
*A [[Fainting|fainted]] Pokémon is dead, and must be permanently [[Pokémon storage system|boxed]] in the box called "Grave".
*Only [[Caught Pokémon|catch]] the first Pokémon encountered in each area.
:*However, duplicates are not permitted. If the first encounter is a duplicate, it may be ignored until a non-duplicate is encountered.
:*A duplicate is anything that already has data in the [[Pokédex]].

Currently, Ikarishipper900 has defeated seven [[Gym|gyms]] and suffered five losses.
====Pokémon====
=====Current Party=====
{{Party
|color={{sapphire color}}
|headcolor={{sapphire color light}}
|bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}
|sprite=MayE.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}351210
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Lia
|game=E
|location=Slateport City
|pokemon=6
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=026
|pokemon=Raichu
|nickname=Kami
|gender=female
|level=45
|type1=Electric
|ability=Static
|held=Silk Scarf
|move1=Thunderbolt|move1type=Electric
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal
|move3=Slam|move3type=Normal
|move4=Thunder Wave|move4type=Electric}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=257
|pokemon=Blaziken
|nickname=Danny
|gender=male
|level=45
|type1=Fire|type2=Fighting
|ability=Blaze
|held=Quick Claw
|move1=Strength|move1type=Normal
|move2=Blaze Kick|move2type=Fire
|move3=Double Kick|move3type=Fighting
|move4=Rock Smash|move4type=Fighting}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=344
|pokemon=Claydol
|nickname=Beyblade
|level=45
|type1=Ground|type2=Psychic
|ability=Levitate
|held=Shell Bell
|move1=Dig|move1type=Ground
|move2=Psybeam|move2type=Psychic
|move3=AncientPower|move3type=Rock
|move4=Rock Tomb|move4type=Rock}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=169
|pokemon=Crobat
|nickname=Helena
|gender=female
|level=44
|type1=Poison|type2=Flying
|ability=Inner Focus
|held=Shell Bell
|move1=Confuse Ray|move1type=Ghost
|move2=Air Cutter|move2type=Flying
|move3=Bite|move3type=Dark
|move4=Fly|move4type=Flying}}
|pokemon5={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=182
|pokemon=Bellossom
|nickname=Ginger
|gender=female
|level=45
|type1=Grass
|ability=Chlorophyll
|held=Focus Band
|move1=Solarbeam|move1type=Grass
|move2=Moonlight|move2type=Normal
|move3=Sleep Powder|move3type=Grass
|move4=Sunny Day|move4type=Fire}}
|pokemon6={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=073
|pokemon=Tentacruel
|nickname=Jewel
|gender=male
|level=45
|type1=Water
|type2=Poison
|ability=Liquid Ooze
|held=Mystic Water
|move1=Surf|move1type=Water
|move2=Dive|move2type=Water
|move3=Sludge Bomb|move3type=Poison
|move4=Supersonic|move4type=Normal}}
}}

=====Fallen=====
{|
|
{{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=261
|pokemon=Poochyena
|nickname=Harriet
|gender=female
|level=6
|type1=Dark
|ability=Run Away
|held=None
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal
|move2=Howl|move2type=Normal}}
|
{{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=271
|pokemon=Lombre
|nickname=Lily
|gender=female
|level=31
|type1=Water|type2=Grass
|ability=Rain Dish
|held=None
|move1=Fake Out|move1type=Normal
|move2=Nature Power|move2type=Normal
|move3=Absorb|move3type=Grass
|move4=Bullet Seed|move4type=Grass}}
|
{{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=277
|pokemon=Swellow
|nickname=Wave
|gender=female
|level=38
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying
|ability=Guts
|held=None
|move1=Aerial Ace|move1type=Flying
|move2=Secret Power|move2type=Normal
|move3=Quick Attack|move3type=Normal
|move4=Fly|move4type=Flying}}
|-
|
{{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=310
|pokemon=Manectric
|nickname=Romero
|gender=male
|level=40
|type1=Electric
|ability=Lightningrod
|held=None
|move1=Spark|move1type=Electric
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal
|move3=Howl|move3type=Normal
|move4=Bite|move4type=Dark}}
|
{{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=321
|pokemon=Wailord
|nickname=Turnblad
|gender=female
|level=43
|type1=Water
|ability=Oblivious
|held=None
|move1=Astonish|move1type=Ghost
|move2=Water Pulse|move2type=Water
|move3=Rollout|move3type=Rock
|move4=Surf|move4type=Water}}
|}

==In the anime==
Ikarishipper900 has not appeared in the anime, and is not scheduled to. However, both of her current [[Dawn (game)|player]] [[May (game)|characters]] have had counterparts in the anime as [[Ash Ketchum|Ash's]] [[Dawn (anime)|traveling]] [[May (anime)|companions]].

Ikarishipper900 has mentioned that she would like the anime much more if "Ash used his head more!"

==In the manga==
Ikarishipper900 has also not appeared in any of the manga, nor is she scheduled to.
===In [[Pokémon Adventures]]===
She has, however, stated that Pokémon Adventures is the only manga that she's read, and that she adores it. She has read to partway through the [[Yellow chapter (Adventures)|Yellow chapter]] and summaries through what is known of the [[Platinum chapter (Adventures)|Platinum chapter]].

==In the TCG==
She has not made an appearance in the TCG, nor are any cards planned for her. She used to play the game in middle school, but since then has given her card collection to a friend. It is unknown which cards she possessed.

==Names==
'''Ikarishipper900''' is also known by '''Jessi''', '''Aviana''', or '''Lia''', depending on the setting.

==Trivia==
*Ikarishipper900 is a self-professed "grammar Nazi".
*She claims to have found the creation of this page to be fun.

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Talk:Grimsley

2011-06-06T19:45:10Z

Ikarishipper900: /* Gambling?? */

Argh, I'm sorry! I totally messed up the page. :< I hope it's okay if I go ahead and fix this. I guess I'm not quite used to editing articles QUITE yet...kinda ended up C+P'ing the rest of the page onto one section. T_T
Edit: Okay, so I fixed it. Sorry for any inconveniences; I'll make sure to be more careful next time. D8
[[User:SpeedXaaa|SpeedXaaa]] 19:42, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Strangely, in the rematch, Giima's Zuruzukin's gender changes. In fact, with the exception of his Sharpedo, all of his Pokémon are female.
I did see a lot of video clips to confirm this before editing the page, but if I made a mistake, please inform me! [[User:Rhm2768|Rhm2768]] 08:17, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Could it be a reference to Dracula living with many wives, playing into the vampire motif? --[[User:Whitewater257|Whitewater257]] 02:14, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

==Another Trivia==
would it be nice to put in the trivia that giima is the only elite four not to appear outside the league shikimi and caitlin both visit cynthia and renbu appears on the victory road before cheren's rematch.[[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 04:20, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:Yeah, I guess that would be fine. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:25, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

==Gambling??==
What is the source on the gambling lines in the article?--[[User:Whitewater257|Whitewater257]] 12:26, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
:It was an interview with the character designer in a Japanese magazine. Don't remember which one, but it was mentioned on the forums. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 12:33, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
::It was Nintendo Dream, where they mentioned E4 traits. Transcribed [http://shellspider.blog101.fc2.com/blog-entry-562.html#more here] (not translated). [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 12:51, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
:::Thanks. By the way, why don't we have an article on Nintendo Dream? We get a lot of good information from there. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 14:40, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
::::Shouldn't the source be included? [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 19:45, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

User:Ikarishipper900

2011-06-06T03:02:21Z

Ikarishipper900:

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|- align="center"
| colspan="2" | <big><big>'''Ikarishipper900'''</big></big>{{#if:| '''サトシ''' ''Satoshi''|}}
|- align="center"
{{#ifeq: no|yes|{{!}} class="roundy" style="background: #FFFFFF;" colspan="2" {{!}} ''"I am a great Pokémon Trainer!"''}}
|- align="center"
| class="roundy" style="background: #FFFFFF;" colspan="2" | http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/128/1/b/platinum_dawn_and_emerald_may_by_avianalia-d3fq7v3.png These represent the current games.
|-
{{#ifeq: no|yes|! class="roundytl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} {{#ifeq: no|yes|[[Aging in the anime|{{color|000|Age}}]]|Age}}
{{!}} class="roundytr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} 1,000,000}}
|-
! class="{{#ifeq: no|no|roundytl}} {{#ifeq: no|no|{{#if: ||roundybl}}}}" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" | {{color2|000|Gender}}
| class="{{#ifeq: no|no|roundytr}} {{#ifeq: no|no|{{#if: ||roundybr}}}}" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" | Female
|-
{{#if: |! class="{{#ifeq: no|no|roundybl}}" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} {{color2|000|Birthday}}
{{!}} class="{{#ifeq: no|no|roundybr}}" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} January 1 ({{wp|{{#switch: {{#expr: floor({{#time: z|January 1 - 80 days}} div 30.416666)}}|0=Aries|1=Taurus|2=Gemini|3=Cancer|4=Leo|5=Virgo|6=Libra|7=Scorpio|8=Sagittarius|9=Capricorn|10=Aquarius|11=Pisces}} (astrology)|{{#switch: {{#expr: floor({{#time: z|January 1 - 80 days}} div 30.416666)}}|0=Aries|1=Taurus|2=Gemini|3=Cancer|4=Leo|5=Virgo|6=Libra|7=Scorpio|8=Sagittarius|9=Capricorn|10=Aquarius|11=Pisces}}}})}}
|-
{{#ifeq: no|yes|! style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Eye color
{{!}} style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Black}}
|-
{{#ifeq: no|yes|! class="roundybl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Hair color
{{!}} class="roundybr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Black}}
|-
! class="roundytl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" | {{color|000|Hometown}}
| class="roundytr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" | [[Twinleaf Town]], [[Littleroot Town]]
|-
! class="{{#ifeq: Unknown|Unknown|roundybl}}" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" | {{color2|000|Region}}
| class="{{#ifeq: Unknown|Unknown|roundybr}}" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" | [[Sinnoh]], [[Hoenn]]
|-
{{#ifeq: Unknown|Unknown||! class="roundybl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Relatives
{{!}} class="roundybr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Unknown}}
|-
{{#ifeq: Unknown|Unknown||! class="roundytl {{#ifeq: yes|no|roundyleft}}" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} {{color2|000|Trainer class}}
{{!}} class="roundytr {{#ifeq: yes|no|roundyright}}" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Unknown}}
|-
{{#ifeq: yes|yes|! {{#ifeq: Unknown|Unknown|class="roundytl"}} style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Generation
{{!}} {{#ifeq: Unknown|Unknown|class="roundytr"}} style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} [[Generation IV|IV]], [[Generation III|III]]}}
|-
{{#ifeq: yes|yes|! class="roundybl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Games
{{!}} class="roundybr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} {{game|Platinum}}, {{game|Emerald}}}}
|-
{{#ifeq: yes|counterpart|! class="roundyleft" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} [[List of cross-canon counterparts|{{color|000|Game counterpart}}]]
{{!}} class="roundyright" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Rick Astley}}
|-
{{#ifeq: no|yes|! class="roundytl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Leader of
{{!}} class="roundytr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} [[Viridian Gym]]}}
|-
{{#ifeq: no|yes|! style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Badge
{{!}} style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} [[Earth Badge]]}}
|-
{{#ifeq: no|yes|! class="{{#ifeq: yes|no|roundytl}}" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Elite Four of
{{!}} class="{{#ifeq: yes|no|roundytr}}" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} [[Indigo Plateau]]}}
|-
{{#ifeq: no|yes|! class="{{#ifeq: yes|no|roundytl}} {{#ifeq: no|no|roundybl}}" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Champion of
{{!}} class="{{#ifeq: yes|no|roundytr}} {{#ifeq: no|no|roundybr}}" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} [[Indigo Plateau]]}}
|-
{{#ifeq: no|yes|! class="roundybl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Specializes in
{{!}} class="roundybr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Normal}}
|-
{{#ifeq: no|yes|! class="roundybl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Challenge
{{!}} class="roundybr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Dance in a circle}}
|-
{{#switch: no|yes=! class="roundytl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Brain of
{{!}} class="roundytr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} [[Battle Frontier (Generation III)#Battle Tower|Battle Tower]]|Pt=! class="roundytl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Brain of
{{!}} class="roundytr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} [[Battle Frontier (Generation IV)#Battle Tower|Battle Tower]]}}
|-
{{#ifeq: no|yes|! class="roundybl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} {{color2|000|Symbol}}
{{!}} class="roundybr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Ability Symbol}}
|-
{{#ifeq: no|Pt|! class="roundybl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} {{color2|000|Print}}
{{!}} class="roundybr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Tower Print}}
|-
{{#ifeq: no|yes|! class="roundytl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Member of
{{!}} class="roundytr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Team Whatever}}
|-
{{#ifeq: no|yes|! {{#ifeq: no|no|class="roundybl"}} style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Rank
{{!}} {{#ifeq: no|no|class="roundybr"}} style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Grunt}}
|-
{{#ifeq: no|yes|! class="roundybl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Partner
{{!}} class="roundybr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Billy Mays}}
|-
{{#ifeq: no|counterpart|! class="roundytl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Anime counterpart
{{!}} class="roundytr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Bill Nye}}
|-
{{#switch: no|cameo|yes|counterpart=! class="{{#ifeq: no|counterpart||roundytl}} {{#switch: no|cameo|counterpart=roundybl}}" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} {{#switch: no|yes=Anime debut|cameo=Anime cameos|counterpart=Counterpart debut|no=This should not appear}}
{{!}} class="{{#ifeq: no|counterpart||roundytr}} {{#switch: no|cameo|counterpart=roundybr}}" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} [[EP001|{{#if: |''{{{epname}}}''|EP001}}]]}}
|-
{{#ifeq: no|yes|! style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} English voice actor
{{!}} style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Jimmy Zoppi}}
|-
{{#ifeq: no|yes|! class="roundybl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Japanese voice actor
{{!}} class="roundybr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Kanako Yasaka}}
|-
{{#ifeq: no|counterpart|! class="roundytl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Manga counterpart(s)
{{!}} class="roundytr" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} Bill Nye}}
|-
{{#switch: no|yes|Adventures|counterpart=! class="{{#switch: no|yes|Adventures=roundytl}} roundybl" style="background: #FFFFFF;" align="right" {{!}} Debut {{#switch: no|Adventures=round|chapter}}
{{!}} class="{{#switch: no|yes|Adventures=roundyright}}" style="background:#FFFFFF;" align="left" {{!}} [[PS001|{{#if: |''{{{roundname}}}''|PS001}}]]}}
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'''Ikarishipper900''' is a relatively new member to Bulbapedia, although she is a long-time user. She is also known as '''{{tt|Jessi|in real life}}''' and '''{{tt|Aviana|on the Nuzlocke forum}}'''.

==On [[Bulbapedia]]==
Currently, Ikarishipper900 is working on the self-assigned task of filling in quotes for characters who lack them. Most characters fit this case. The model for thorough quotes is, at least for now, [[N]], who despite his incomplete template has most of his quotes logged. This task was approved by {{u|PsychicRider}} as well.

Ikarishipper900 has also stated a preference for uniformity in page layout, and as such changes the layout to the conventions on the [[Bulbapedia:Project CharacterDex|CharacterDex]] when necessary.

Like many new editors, Ikarishipper900 is having a tough time with the coding, but also like many new editors, she is doing her best to learn.

===Userboxes===
Ikarishipper900 is constantly on the lookout for new userboxes to insert here.

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====Ikarishipper900====
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==={{tt|Quotes|All quotes include verbal as well as typed}}===
====On {{ga|Barry}}'s page====
''"I had better not be the ONLY ONE getting these dumb quotes..."''

====On {{ga|Dawn}}'s page====
''"I really don't want to get the female character's quotes as an NPC... rrrgh."''

====On {{u|Ikarishipper900}}'s userspace{{tt|*|at any point}}====
''"Wait, what happened to Wing Attack?! That's not how that's supposed to look!"''

''"If you feel I am doing something in error, don't hesitate to correct me. :)"''

==In the games==
Ikarishipper900 has played all of the [[main series]] games, with the exception of {{game|HeartGold}} unintentionally and {{game|White}} because of time constraints, and has become the [[Pokémon Champion|Champion]] in all of these games. Most of these games were never recorded in any form. Some of information mentioned for the games mentioned below are slightly out of date at the moment. However, Ikarishipper900 intends to repair this soon.

===In {{game|Platinum}}===
In Platinum, Ikarishipper900 is using the name '''Jessi''', and her expressed purpose is to get quotes from the characters involved in the game (including {{ga|Barry}}, {{ga|Lucas}}, {{prof|Rowan}}, [[Looker]], [[Mars]], [[Charon]], [[Cheryl]], [[Cynthia]], and [[Jupiter]] so far). The copying of quotes greatly slows her progress, but she has earned [[Coal Badge|two]] [[Forest Badge|badges]] so far.

====Current Pokémon====
{{Party|
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|prize={{PDollar}}9944
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|location=Route 205
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|pokemon1={{Pokémon
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|ndex=418
|pokemon=Buizel
|nickname=Mina
|ability=Swift Swim
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|type1=Water
|move1=Quick Attack
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|ndex=403
|pokemon=Shinx
|nickname=Simba
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|type1=Electric
|held=Quick Claw
|move1=Tackle
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|move2=Leer
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|move3=Charge
|move3type=Electric
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Spark
|move4type=Electric
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|pokemon=Staravia
|nickname=Hannibal
|ability=Intimidate
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|move1=Tackle
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|move4type=Flying
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|ndex=391
|pokemon=Monferno
|nickname=Dante
|ability=Blaze
|level=15
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|type1=Fire
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|move1=Mach Punch
|move1type=Fighting
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Rock Smash
|move2type=Fighting
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Ember
|move3type=Fire
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|move4=Taunt
|move4type=Dark
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|pokemon3={{Pokémon
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|ndex=406
|pokemon=Budew
|nickname=Almanzo
|ability=Poison Point
|level=14
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|type1=Grass
|type2=Poison
|move1=Absorb
|move1type=Grass
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|move2=Mega Drain
|move2type=Grass
|move2cat=Special
|move3=Water Sport
|move3type=Water
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Stun Spore
|move4type=Grass
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|pokemon6={{Pokémon
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|ndex=064
|pokemon=Kadabra
|nickname=Minerva
|ability=Synchronize
|level=16
|gender=female
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|type1=Psychic
|held=none
|move1=Teleport
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====Quotes====
=====At [[Oreburgh City]]=====
''"Yeah, I KNOW I'm slow, Barry. It's because you talk so much, though!"''

=====At [[Jubilife City]] (2nd Visit)=====
''"Oh my gosh. [[Professor Rowan]] is officially my favorite professor!"''

===In {{game|Emerald}}===
Ikarishipper900 is running through a [[Nuzlocke Challenge]] in Emerald under the name of '''Lia'''. She is using these rules:
*A [[Fainting|fainted]] Pokémon is dead, and must be permanently [[Pokémon storage system|boxed]] in the box called "Grave".
*Only [[Caught Pokémon|catch]] the first Pokémon encountered in each area.
:*However, duplicates are not permitted. If the first encounter is a duplicate, it may be ignored until a non-duplicate is encountered.
:*A duplicate is anything that already has data in the [[Pokédex]].

Currently, Ikarishipper900 has defeated seven [[Gym|gyms]] and suffered five losses.
====Pokémon====
=====Current Party=====
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|name=Lia
|game=E
|location=Shoal Cave
|pokemon=6
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
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|game=Emerald
|ndex=026
|pokemon=Raichu
|nickname=Kami
|gender=female
|level=41
|type1=Electric
|ability=Static
|held=Silk Scarf
|move1=Thunderbolt|move1type=Electric
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal
|move3=Slam|move3type=Normal
|move4=Thunder Wave|move4type=Electric}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
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|game=Emerald
|ndex=257
|pokemon=Blaziken
|nickname=Danny
|gender=male
|level=41
|type1=Fire|type2=Fighting
|ability=Blaze
|held=Quick Claw
|move1=Strength|move1type=Normal
|move2=Blaze Kick|move2type=Fire
|move3=Double Kick|move3type=Fighting
|move4=Attract|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
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|game=Emerald
|ndex=344
|pokemon=Claydol
|nickname=Beyblade
|level=41
|type1=Ground|type2=Psychic
|ability=Levitate
|held=Hard Stone
|move1=Dig|move1type=Ground
|move2=Psybeam|move2type=Psychic
|move3=AncientPower|move3type=Rock
|move4=Rock Tomb|move4type=Rock}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=169
|pokemon=Crobat
|nickname=Helena
|gender=female
|level=41
|type1=Poison|type2=Flying
|ability=Inner Focus
|held=Soothe Bell
|move1=Confuse Ray|move1type=Ghost
|move2=Air Cutter|move2type=Flying
|move3=Bite|move3type=Dark
|move4=Fly|move4type=Flying}}
|pokemon5={{Pokémon
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|game=Emerald
|ndex=182
|pokemon=Bellossom
|nickname=Ginger
|gender=female
|level=41
|type1=Grass
|ability=Chlorophyll
|held=Focus Band
|move1=Magical Leaf|move1type=Grass
|move2=Cut|move2type=Normal
|move3=Sleep Powder|move3type=Grass
|move4=Moonlight|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon6={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=321
|pokemon=Wailord
|nickname=Turnblad
|gender=female
|level=42
|type1=Water
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Shell Bell
|move1=Astonish|move1type=Ghost
|move2=Water Pulse|move2type=Water
|move3=Rollout|move3type=Rock
|move4=Surf|move4type=Water}}
}}

=====Temporarily boxed=====
{{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=073
|pokemon=Tentacruel
|nickname=Jewel
|gender=male
|level=39
|type1=Water|type2=Poison
|ability=Liquid Ooze
|held=None
|move1=Bubblebeam|move1type=Water
|move2=Surf|move2type=Water
|move3=Sludge Bomb|move3type=Poison
|move4=Supersonic|move4type=Normal}}
*While Jewel has been expressed as Ikarishipper900's main [[Water (type)|Water]] Pokémon, Turnblad is currently in use in anticipation of the [[Mossdeep Gym]].

=====Fallen=====
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{{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=261
|pokemon=Poochyena
|nickname=Harriet
|gender=female
|level=6
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|ability=Run Away
|held=None
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal
|move2=Howl|move2type=Normal}}
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{{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=271
|pokemon=Lombre
|nickname=Lily
|gender=female
|level=31
|type1=Water|type2=Grass
|ability=Rain Dish
|held=None
|move1=Fake Out|move1type=Normal
|move2=Nature Power|move2type=Normal
|move3=Absorb|move3type=Grass
|move4=Bullet Seed|move4type=Grass}}
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{{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=277
|pokemon=Swellow
|nickname=Wave
|gender=female
|level=38
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying
|ability=Guts
|held=None
|move1=Aerial Ace|move1type=Flying
|move2=Secret Power|move2type=Normal
|move3=Quick Attack|move3type=Normal
|move4=Fly|move4type=Flying}}
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{{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=310
|pokemon=Manectric
|nickname=Romero
|gender=male
|level=40
|type1=Electric
|ability=Lightningrod
|held=None
|move1=Spark|move1type=Electric
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal
|move3=Howl|move3type=Normal
|move4=Bite|move4type=Dark}}
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==In the anime==
Ikarishipper900 has not appeared in the anime, and is not scheduled to. However, both of her current [[Dawn (game)|player]] [[May (game)|characters]] have had counterparts in the anime as [[Ash Ketchum|Ash's]] [[Dawn (anime)|traveling]] [[May (anime)|companions]].

Ikarishipper900 has mentioned that she would like the anime much more if "Ash used his head more!"

==In the manga==
Ikarishipper900 has also not appeared in any of the manga, nor is she scheduled to.
===In [[Pokémon Adventures]]===
She has, however, stated that Pokémon Adventures is the only manga that she's read, and that she adores it. She has read to partway through the [[Yellow chapter (Adventures)|Yellow chapter]] and summaries through what is known of the [[Platinum chapter (Adventures)|Platinum chapter]].

==In the TCG==
She has not made an appearance in the TCG, nor are any cards planned for her. She used to play the game in middle school, but since then has given her card collection to a friend. It is unknown which cards she possessed.

==Names==
'''Ikarishipper900''' is also known by '''Jessi''', '''Aviana''', or '''Lia''', depending on the setting.

==Trivia==
*Ikarishipper900 is a self-professed "grammar Nazi".
*She claims to have found the creation of this page to be fun.

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User talk:Kenji-girl/Archive 19

2011-06-06T00:37:59Z

Ikarishipper900: /* Help? */

{{:User talk:Kenji-girl/Archive directory}}

== Jessilina ==

I have created a page for her, [[User:05308/Jessilina]] I figure since [[Ashley]] got a page and that every other character knows Jessilina and Jessie to be different people, this iconic alias deserves her own page, I'm unsure however which colours to use as I think Team Rocket colours are inappropriate, besides that I know no reason why it can not be mainspaced but it's your call of corse [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 17:14, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
:Thing is, she can't be compared to Ashley. Ashley is popular among fans. That's why she has an article. She's considered different from Ash. Fans see Jessilina as Jessie. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:42, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
::And besides, Jessie had several Contest aliases, what about them? [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 00:43, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
:::The other aliases could be included in the Jessalina page? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 03:18, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
::::Why not a whole page for Jessie's aliases? She's got about seven or more that crop up, half of them not even properly documented, simply mentioned. One even comes to mind from when they were in Johto. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 03:25, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
:::::I just don't find it that useful. And what makes her aliases so important over James's? He also had aliases. Maybe the can be reordered and better documented on Jessie's page but a whole article for themselves? That much detail isn't needed. All of these people are still Jessie. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:34, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
::::::How many of James' aliases had names or even won contests? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 04:24, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
::::::: I think Jessie's alias are more notable because a lot of them reccur; Jessidia, Jessilyn and esspessually Jessilina, and of corse, Jessilina is Jessilina to the rest of the world in Pokémon, Ash, Dawn, Contesta, etc all know Jessilina as a good coordinator, wehile they know Jessie as criminal member of team rocket [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 08:46, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

==[[BW013]]==

One of the dub edits for this episode states that during Ash's battle with Minccino, Bel told Ash's Pikachu to use {{m|Zap Cannon}} instead of {{m|Thunder Wave}} in the original version. I just rewatched the original version and she definitely told Pikachu to use Zap Cannon. That means that the dub actually got it right and this is not an error. I can understand the mistake because these two moves are similar in japanese names Zap Cannon (Japanese: でんじほう Electromagnetic Cannon, lit. Denjihō) and Thunder Wave (Japanese: でんじは Electromagnetic Wave, lit. Denjiha). It might not be that big of a deal, but I just thought that I should mention it. [[User:Gohan5|Gohan5]] 00:30, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
:You should bring it up on the episodes talk page. I'm only following what the users said. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:05, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

== Useless page? ==

I noticed {{an|David|this}} today. I watched the movie to see if I could get any info but I have no idea who it is. The page is just so small, I was wondering if it was really needed anymore. I've also got some pics I'd like your approval on so maybe get on AIM at some point. <3 [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 00:46, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

== I know what you want ==

But unfortunately I can only offer a photo. I honestly have no idea what the two new names are. Sorry, man. :( I hope you can figure something out. [http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18728196/IMGP1433.jpg Here's the photo.] I do have some good news though (well good for me anyway) but that can wait until later. <3 [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 13:55, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
:I can read who most of them are. Except for the ones in between Eli James and Lisa Ortiz. Which are most liekely the VAs of Lenora and Hawes. Well, it's not your fault. Hopefully I can figure them out eventually (or CN can get off their lazy butts and post the episodes online again...) --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:46, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

== Thanks for explaining it to me. ==

Hi, thanks for explaining that to me. I was not trying to be argumentative or "snippy". I was only wondering why Jello made that edit but then he/she lashed at me as if I wanted an argument. Well I tried to talk to him and he didn't explain to me the reason why no more trivia needs to be added. I was only asking because that is what PSY has suggested me to do if I want some questions on why my edit has been reverted by another user. Not starting fights or arguments. [[User:Blueknightex|Blueknightex]] 07:10, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

== Ash's Staraptor's Gust ==

A little while ago, I noticed that there was an inconsistency between [[Ash's Staraptor]] and [[anime move errors]], regarding the episode the move debuted in. The trivia section of [[DP002]] says that it was Gust in the original but Whirlwind in the dub. I watched [[DP026]] today, and Ash says Gust (in the dub at least). How should the page be formatted. On a related note, was Whirlwind ever used in the original, and how should that be formatted? Do we put the original in the box, then note the dub below, or the other way around (or something else)? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:43, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
:I guess put where it debuted in the original and not the dub. I don't know if it used Whirlwind in the original though. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:23, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

== Episodes focusing on Iris's Excadrill ==

I honestly have no idea why you deleted that Episodes focusing on Excadrill page. What was wrong with it? Hm? [[User:Don't Hug Lucario!|Don't Hug Lucario!]] 19:06, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
:Because unless they are walking Pokémon, they do not get a category for episode focus. I honestly don't know why you created one for Excadrill as it had very little screentime to begin with. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 19:15, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
::And even if we did still have pages like that for the other Pokemon, he has one episode focus on him and even that is arguable, not like Bulbasaur who got a few of his own episodes [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 23:45, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

== Anime pictures ==

Ahaha, I am so tempted to add anime pictures to {{p|Stunfisk|Maggyo}}, {{p|Tympole}}, and {{p|Foongus}}'s pages. But I forget, is there anything against doing that before the episode airs? <:3 [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 05:54, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
:Don't think there is. I've done it with Dwebble. Go ahead. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:16, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

== BW015 ==

Hey, sorry for not getting this to you sooner. I had things going on yesterday. Additional voices just consisted of Lenora's VA, Hawes, Kayzie Rogers, Alyson Rosenfeld, Tom W. and Marc T.. On the plus side, I figured out who Hawes's voice actor is! It's Gary Mack. :D He's done a few voices for Yu-Gi-Oh and a few other cartoon series. I suggest looking up his role in Kappa Mikey for comparison to Hawes. I'd put it myself if it weren't for my lackluster history with VAs. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 17:46, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

== Certain about something ==

What does debatable mean as I saw on [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Reggie&oldid=1432398 this edit]? [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 23:42, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
:It's too hard to tell what their genders are. Especially Swalot. –[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:31, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

== No Comparisons ==

Are we not allowed to add comparisons to Pokémon pages anymore? We've always had these on the pages but now a user [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Jessie%27s_Woobat&diff=1437949&oldid=1423138 is deleting them], saying they aren't valid. Wanted to know if I missed something. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 18:44, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
:Kenji decided yesturday, she had a big clear out of the(character)'s Pokemon pages [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 19:36, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
::It was a decision made by me and the other admins. You can look at my contributions and see that I've already done numerous pages.

::Of course... I would have liked to do it myself. Or at least been asked if it was okay to help out. But that edit was a-OK overall.

::The reason for it is because it had turned into something where users drew their own personal comparisons. Like Woobat and Yamega. And some of them get ridiculous with the lists with bullets that take up about a quarter of the entire page. While I find some comparisons interesting, it wouldn't be fair to keep them and not others. In the end, a comparison is something that not everyone will find interesting or notable. That's why this is going down. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 19:41, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

== Comparions ==

Can I help you with that? :--[[User:SuperAipom7|SuperAipom7]] ''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|Questions?]])'' 00:10, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
:Sure. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:11, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
::All right, I'm finished. How'd I do? :--[[User:SuperAipom7|SuperAipom7]] ''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|Questions?]])'' 01:21, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
:::Overall pretty good. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:22, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

==Yamask from BW014==
Hi Kenji. I hope you don't mind me popping here and asking, but when I don't understand something, then I ask questions. I understand why you let Will-O-Wisp go, since it was possessing Cilan when using the attack (I actually thought about putting it down, but thought against it since it was ''Cilan'' that used it), but I don't think that we should put anything down for Psychic, Rain Dance or Haze since it wasn't seen using the moves. The point of the anime templates is to show how the Pokémon use the attack in the anime, correct? [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Will-O-Wisp_(move)&diff=902356&oldid=901918|In this edit,] you reverted a user because Magmar's Will-O-Wisp (XD, coincidence) because the attack wasn't seen. [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Psychic_(move)&curid=3703&diff=1438320&oldid=1436967&rcid=1537455|It's the same with this edit], Yamask wasn't seen using the attack, it just caused object to float. For all we know, it could do a hula dance in order to activate the attack. Again, don't be mad, I'm just trying to get the situation right. ^^; [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 01:24, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
:There is a part where a small blue flame chases down Hawes. That's the Will-O-Wisp we are talking about. We are just noting that Yamask used it as an attack when possessing Cilan.

:That thing with Magmar is way different. We did not see the move '''at all'''. Paul told it to use it but it never intiated the attack because it was interrupted. Yamask's moves were visible but just not seen coming from it. But we know that it was using them.

:In the end, it's the move that matters. The move was seen. So we can put it down. The Pokémom doesn't have to be seen all the time. Just the move. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:36, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
::Okay then, I think I understand it now. Can I still go in and change some things to the method? In the Psychic list, the method is how the Pokemon uses (or what it does) the attack, and not all Yamask using Psychic are going to be tormenting Hawes with objects. ^^; [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 01:40, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

:::But Yamask wasn't seen using it so how would we know what it looks like? That's all we can say about the move. Unless you can say "Yamask controls objects that glow in a blue light" or something. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:48, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
::::Lol, back where we started. XP I'll edit the pages and add what I can, then you can see how you like them. That work for you? Can you respond when I've finished adding data for Psychic, Will-O-Wisp, Rain Dance and Haze? I'll try not to disappoint. ^^ [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 01:51, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
:::::We couldn't just say that it's how Cilan used it could we? Like with a note about his being possessed and his overworld sprite?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 21:48, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
::::::Cilan isn't really a Pokémon... ^^; {{unsigned|Littlmiget123}}
Yeah, it was mostly a joke but I was throwing it out there just in case.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 22:13, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
:Lol, I kinda figured that. XD [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 23:13, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

==Possible feature for anime articles?==

Hi, I have a suggestion to make for anime Pokémon articles. If I wanted to see each image of the Pokémon's known moves, I'd have to keep refreshing lots of times and go on pot luck until I get the image I want. I don't know if this would be possible, but if it could be done where someone could hover their cursor over a smaller version of the image or the move name in order for it to appear as the main picture, I feel this would work well. Again, I don't know if it would be possible, but if anyone can do it, as head of the anime department, it would be you. Hope you find this a good idea! [[User:Torngentleman2|Torngentleman2]] 10:04, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
:It would cause too many crashes --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:31, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

== Genesect Artwork ==

A user has added Genesect's artwork, but chances are its fake (It does looks real), so should it be removed? I know the Gen IV events had fan art for a while, but is this going to happen for the Gen V events? Presonally, I think the page does look better with it. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 11:59, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
:It's not real. Here's the original. http://pokefaktory.deviantart.com/art/Genesect-200432137 [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 12:01, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
::OK, but will there be fan art, like we did for the Gen IV events? Those streched, grainy sprites hurt my eyes. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 12:04, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
:::I don't think we're doing the fanart thing this time. I don't think it was a good idea then looking back. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 12:18, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

== Notable Pokémon ==

When you get a chance, can you come to a decision on {{Cat|Protected pages|these}} please? Thank you. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 19:35, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

== Greetings ==

I'm here cause {{u|Adyniz|someone}} wants to talk to you. :U So you know what to do. <3 [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 05:26, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

== Please ==
Hello, I wonder if there is any chance that the page I did on Ash's rivals go to the main area of the site?
[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 23:16, 23 May 2011
:That article needs to be redesigned before I can even consider it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:31, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
== BW017 ==

Here you are, pal.

Dan Green 
Can't tell. Either Bella or Billy, but neither Hudson, nor Regan 
Lisa Ortiz 
Kayzie Rogers 
Marc Thompson

[http://i54.tinypic.com/2vd2yoo.jpg Here's the photo.] [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 13:49, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

==Help?==
Sorry, I know you have a lot on your plate, but I noticed you had a lot of lovely userboxes, and I was wondering how to make those. Sorry if you're not the right person to ask and I'm bothering you. :) [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 20:26, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
:You can copy and paste mine as a reference. Just go here: [[User:Kenji-girl/InfoBox]]. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:31, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
::Thanks! :) [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 00:37, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

== BW018 ==

Bella Hudson (Leavanny perhaps) 
Emily Jenness (Deerling) 
Michele Knotz (Sewaddle maybe, and the Woobat) 
Kayzie Rogers (Axew) 
[http://www.voices.com/people/BillyBobThompson Billy Bob Thompson] ({{tt|Arti|Not sure who this Burgh guy is}}) 
Marc Thompson (Patrat?) 
Tom Wayland (PokéDex) [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 13:44, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
:Sewaddle sounds a lot like a Kayzie Rogers Pokémon, especially when it's eating. She definitely voiced the female Patrat. -[[User:Thingamajig257|Thingamajig]]'''[[User talk:Thingamajig257|257]]'''- 02:07, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

== The whole Rhonda VA thing ==

Sorry about that, if it's on Sarah Natochenny's resume then I guess it's pretty much confirmed - it's just when I made the edit there was so much info in favour of Rhonda Krempa being the VA.
*a) After the switch to DuArt, in about 95% of cases - the recurring B-tier VAs during seasons 9 and 10 (like your Emily Williams, Craig Blair, Rhonda Krempa, Sonney Dey etc.) never got any new roles under the TPCi/DuArt dub and only ever made appearances as characters they'd played during early DP. I went through every episode Rhonda was in on my season 11 and 12 DVDs and Krempa was credited - the only other episodes she was credited for in seasons 11 and 12 were, naturally, ones where Kenny appeared, to the extent where a coincidence was unlikely. Sure, DuArt's crediting of VAs is incredibly dodgy at times - but Krempa was credited without fail in every single episode where Rhonda the reporter appeared, and not in any episode I checked that didn't have either of those two characters.
*b) She sounds more like Kenny than Ash, and sounds nothing like Sarah's other female roles.
*c) Sarah Natochenny's webiste was down when I made the change (and mostly still is today, too) so all I could do was look at other places where she had her roles listed. I didn't know that a copy of her resume was hosted on her talk page.

So yeah, the resume is probably concrete enough proof to keep it as it is, but I think the mistake lies in the resume in this case because of how rarely consistent the credits are in this case. By the way, if you need dub VA credits for any of the second half of Galactic Battles or the first half of Sinnoh League Victors, I can provide them fairly easily because those eps are all out on DVD here now. Just hit up my talk page or send me a BMGf PM if you need them. -[[User:Thingamajig257|Thingamajig]]'''[[User talk:Thingamajig257|257]]'''- 00:11, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
:I have made the same mistake in the past. Originally when Rhonda first debuted, I put her VA down as Sarah Natochenny. I know you can't hear her voice when she talks normally. But when she yells at Jack, I can definitely hear that Ash tone. Then I saw the ending credits to DP075 and Rhonda Krempa was there. With there only being the main cast, Wallace, and Rhonda, I figured I made a mistake and it was actually her doing the voice. But then that resume came out and we changed it back to Sarah Natochenny. So yeah, don't sweat it.

:As for voice actors, if you can find any from your DVDs that'd be great. I don't know of any we made need though. But you can check {{cat|Characters with an unknown English voice actor|this category}} --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:25, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
::Oh great, I should've realised there'd be a category like that on here. I'll take a look through it when I have some time. -[[User:Thingamajig257|Thingamajig]]'''[[User talk:Thingamajig257|257]]'''- 02:07, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

== When is the Black and White server load going to go down? ==

Going by the heading on top of Bulbapedia, there is a high server load for Black and White, and the way the heading is done implies that we aren't allowed to add trivia in or make more than one userspace edit per day. I thought we were way past the hype of Black and White now, so why do we still have it up? When is the server load going to go down so we can add trivia again (IF that will allow us to add in trivia in, anyways) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 11:05, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
:I don't know when it will end. I'm not in charge of the head message. But the reason it's still there is because there are still many load problems left. So when ever that ends, the message will most likely be removed. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 11:18, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Core series/Archive 1

2011-05-29T15:07:18Z

Ikarishipper900:

== Just wondering? ==

In the Japanese version's of any main series game, does the word "version" exist or is that just international usage. Because on the box arts it just say for example Pearl or Ruby.--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 02:42, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

* Each generation's third version does not use its mascots official Ken Sugimori artwork. Blastoise (Japanese), Pikachu (Japanese and English), Suicune, Rayquaza, and Giratina use specially made artwork.

The original Red, Green, and Blue, and the English Gold and Silver don't seem to use the official artwork either. Am I wrong? Or did he publish more than one official work of these back then? - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 07:51, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== Colors ==

I don't know where else to put this, so since I noticed it here first, I'll put it here. I'm not very familiar with the way wikis work, but I've noticed in the source that each Version has its own "color". I'm not talking about the name of the game, I'm talking about the HTML color that it's assigned in the wiki. For example, Red Version's "color" ("red color") is #FF1111, and FireRed's "color" ("firered color") is #FFAAAA. Anyway, what I'd like to know is...where did those specific colors come from? How were those specific colors chosen? And why aren't White and Black Version's "colors" #000000 and #FFFFFF, respectively, instead of what they are currently (#444444 and #C3C3C3, respectively)? I can understand that lighter/darker colors were chosen for visibility purposes, but as the colors are right now, SoulSilver's color (#E1E1E1) is whiter than White's own color! It just doesn't look right, having ''White'' Versions be less white than SoulSilver Version... —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 22:36, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:Well... we also have "Black color dark/light" and "White color dark/light". You can't make white lighter, and you can't make black darker. Sooo. Also it's a really bad idea to have pure white text... when the default background is white. Another thing is, as you pointed out, Red isn't pure #ff0000. So why should BW be their 'pure' color? D:
:... oh yeah and #000 is kinda the default text color, too... >_> ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 22:41, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, I understand that. But shouldn't we change either SoulSilver's color or White's color, because it doesn't look right with SoulSilver's color being whiter than White's... Also, is there a page that lists all the colors, along with their light and dark versions? I'd like to make a list of them all, but digging through the source code isn't exactly the most convenient method, lol. (I'm using the colors for something I'm doing.) —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 23:18, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:::I apologise for the format; I took these out of an Excel file I have. Some of the light colors are now outdated (as in, we changed them on the pedia and I didn't change them on my sheet) and I only have up until Platinum.
:::{| class=expandable
|-
| Click show to view
|-
| <ab>'''Regular'''
Bug A8B820
Dark 705848
Dragon 7038F8
Electric F8D030
Fighting C03028
Fire F08030
Flying A890F0
Ghost 705898
Grass 78C850
Ground E0C068
Ice 98D8D8
Normal A8A878
Poison A040A0
Psychic F85888
Rock B8A038
Steel B8B8D0
Water 6890F0
??? 68A090
Blue 1111FF
Colo B6CAE4
Crystal 4FD9FF
Diamond AAAAFF
Emerald 00A000
FireRed FF7327
Gold DAA520
Green 11BB11
L.Green 00DD00
Pearl FFAAAA
Platinum 999999
Red FF1111
Ruby A00000
Sapphire 0000A0
Silver C0C0C0
XD 604E82
Yellow FFD733
Beauty 6890F0
Cute F85888
Cool F08030
Smart 78C850
Tough F8D030
'''Light'''
Bug CEDE48
Dark A2958D
Dragon 9F77FF
Electric FCEEB6
Fighting E5524A
Fire F9D2B6
Flying CEBFFB
Ghost A18DC4
Grass ACEA8C
Ground F8DD92
Ice BDF3F3
Normal E0E0CF
Poison D878D8
Psychic F99CB8
Rock E6DDB9
Steel E6E6EE
Water 9BB8FE
??? CADDD8
Blue 7777FF
Colo DDE6F1
Crystal B2EEFF
Diamond CCCCFF
Emerald 2ED42E
FireRed FF9359
Gold FFCB49
Green 28E228
L.Green 32FA32
Pearl FFCCCC
Platinum BBBBBB
Red FF7777
Ruby D42E2E
Sapphire 2E2ED4
Silver E3E3E3
XD 8674A8
Yellow FEEF46
Beauty 9DB7F5
Cute FA92B2
Cool F5AC78
Smart A7DB8D
Tough FAE078
</ab>
|}
:::Hope that helps. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:27, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Thanks for that. I'm just curious... How were the colors for Colosseum and XD chosen? Also, what's the verdict on the SoulSilver/White color issue? —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 23:40, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

== Generation V: Inverted Pairings ==

Generation V is the first time that the pairings between version color and version mascot are '''inverted'''. (I.E. Reshiram, the White Dragon, is the version mascot of Pokémon Black while Zekrom, the Black Dragon, is the version mascot of Pokémon White.) --[[User:Arima|Arima]] 03:01, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

== Font Colors ==

I haven't figured out how to but can someone change the font color for Red, Blue, Ruby and Sapphire in the box? They are either incredibly hard to see or you can't see them at all. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 19:36, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

==SoulSilver and White==
It doesn't look like this was ever concluded, but I agree that having SoulSilver a lighter color than White is odd. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 15:07, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Pseudorandom number generation

2011-05-29T14:34:03Z

Ikarishipper900: /* Move to Pseudorandom number generation in Pokémon? */

== SERIOUSLY??? ==
Dude, SERIOUSLY??? Is this '''''REALLY''''' necessary??? --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 02:31, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
:Is it really '''NOT''' necessary? Its not bothering anything :3 --[[User:Blake|Blake]] 02:32, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
::Against pedia rules....--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 02:34, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
:::May I remind you that we have all the other data structures. This is fine. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:50, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

: There are people who are interested in how the game works on a technical and fundamental level. If you do not want to see this, I see two alternatives. Remove it, and I will be happy to stop posting technical information about the game and I will be happy to post it elsewhere. Second, I can make a separate technical page for different aspects of the game. This has its advantages and disadvantages. Advantage would be a central location from where to pull information about the game, separate from game mechanics and background. Disadvantage is that much of the information will be duplicated. I personally don't care either way. {{unsigned|Sabresite}}

I'd like to note that although randomizers are indeed usually seeded by the current date and time, the 3rd generation RPGs use the total time spent on the title screen. --[[User:Kyoufu Kawa|Kyoufu Kawa]] 11:01, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

== RNG Abuse? ==

Should I add how to abuse the RNG to produce shinies? --Kimori Geckarbor Hinoarashi 19:32, 30 October 2009 (UTC) [[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Kimori-Hinoarashi]]

== Move to Pseudorandom number generation in Pokémon? ==

The word pseudorandom is real and is often used in ICT and some aspects of Physics therefore shall we move it to that title instead of "Pseudo-random number generation in Pokémon"? --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 15:31, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:I disagree. Pseudo-random looks more neater than Pseudorandom [[User:Ruberduck0123|'''Ruberdu''']][[Special:Contributions/Ruberduck0123|'''ck0123''']] ([[User talk:Ruberduck0123|talk!]]) 08:55, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
::Without the hyphen it looks like a fake word, even though it isn't. I prefer the hyphen. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 14:34, 29 May 2011 (UTC)