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		<title>Talk:Original Trainer</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Hamner: /* Vivillon pattern */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Stub?==&lt;br /&gt;
Why is this page still considered a stub? It seems rather lengthy to be considered as such. Just a thought. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 03:58, 24 November 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Capture with different OT ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I swear, in White 2, I just captured a Ferroseed that had &amp;quot;a different OT&amp;quot; from mine. There was an effect that ocurred when it appeared, and the text read &amp;quot;A wild Ferroseed appeared?!&amp;quot;, with the interrobang. Other than that, my quick ball worked to capture it. Any explanation to be added to the page? [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 11:55, 10 November 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:[[N&#039;s Pokémon|You used Memory Link, didn&#039;t you?]]. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 12:00, 10 November 2012 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Vivillon pattern ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The current trivia states that the pattern is determined by Original Trainer. However, in the case of an egg, the pattern is determined by the game the egg was generated in. Therefore it is possible to have a Vivillon with a pattern that does not match the geographic location of it&#039;s Original Trainer. Thus this piece trivia should either be amended or excluded from the page. (I just made a note about this in Vivillon&#039;s talk page as well) [[User:Hamner|Hamner]] ([[User talk:Hamner|talk]]) 06:45, 10 December 2013 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Vivillon_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&amp;diff=2034249</id>
		<title>Talk:Vivillon (Pokémon)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Hamner: /* Pattern determined when generated */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I&#039;m guessing the French name is a combination of &amp;quot;prism&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;papillon&amp;quot; (butterfly) [[User:Vienna Waltz|Vienna Waltz]] ([[User talk:Vienna Waltz|talk]]) 20:24, 11 June 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Possible Origin-disco ball? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This may be pushing it a bit, but could Vivillon be based off a disco ball? Due to the square designs all over it and that its body is a silver-white color with colorful wings to represent how a disco ball reflects colors? [[User:CyberCat5555|CyberCat5555]] ([[User talk:CyberCat5555|talk]]) 22:13, 11 June 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Looks a little like a disco floor, or a glitch screen. Maybe even one of those colored ARTag square. I&#039;ve seen a few AR tags us pinks and grey in combination.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 00:05, 12 June 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Worth putting to it&#039;s and its pre evos&#039;s Origin? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I found a very possible design theory of its line. It has something to do with those &amp;quot;pixel-like&amp;quot; shapes on them.&lt;br /&gt;
http://tinyurl.com/lkhy2r8  --[[User:Antlionerd|Antlionerd]] ([[User talk:Antlionerd|talk]]) 14:10, 20 June 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Korean name for Vivillon ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Its Korean name is 비비용 &#039;&#039;Bibiyong&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* It&#039;s essentially a transliteration of its Japanese name.&lt;br /&gt;
: NOTE: I don&#039;t think the 용 &#039;&#039;yong&#039;&#039; in its name means &#039;&#039;dragon&#039;&#039;, it&#039;s just a way some words/syllables ending in &amp;quot;n&amp;quot; are transliterated in Korean. For comparison, &amp;quot;France&amp;quot; is 프랑스 &#039;&#039;Peu&#039;rang&#039;seu&#039;&#039;. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 18:23, 11 July 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* UPDATE: It&#039;s &#039;&#039;based&#039;&#039; on the Japanese and English names, since they all basically use the same etymology:&lt;br /&gt;
:* 비비 &#039;&#039;bibi&#039;&#039; comes from the Korean transliteration of the word &amp;quot;vivid&amp;quot; (비비드 &#039;&#039;bibideu&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
::: (as 美 in Korean is 미 &#039;&#039;mi&#039;&#039;, not &#039;&#039;bi&#039;&#039; like in Japanese)&lt;br /&gt;
:* 용 &#039;&#039;yong&#039;&#039; comes from the Korean transliteration of &amp;quot;papillon&amp;quot; (파피용 &#039;&#039;papiyong&#039;&#039;). -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 19:40, 11 July 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Vivillon Forms ==&lt;br /&gt;
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According to the article there are 18 different forms. Currently I was able to pull out of the PGL 8 versions. Unfortunately, there are rather small. Should we use these as a placeholders, for example, till we get HQ versions? Here&#039;s an example of one of the forms: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17498236/e175c2.png&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In another subject, do we have an official source for the name of the forms? I have seen them around the internet, but I cannot find an official source with their names. --[[User:Sekuiya|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family:Verdana;color:#619DD9;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Sekuiya&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Sekuiya|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF7B1B;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 16:03, 25 October 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Addressing the second part, the names of the patterns are found in Vivillon&#039;s dex entry for each different pattern found (for example, mine lists Meadow, Continental, Polar, and Modern Pattern). That&#039;s as official as it gets. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 16:12, 25 October 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Oh, you&#039;re right! Guess I should have explored the Dex a little more. Now, regarding those little images... --[[User:Sekuiya|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family:Verdana;color:#619DD9;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Sekuiya&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Sekuiya|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF7B1B;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 16:21, 25 October 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
I would just like to add that there are 2 more forms that have been discovered.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:TheJaceX|TheJaceX ]] ([[User talk:TheJaceX|talk]]) 18:48, 3 November 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Vivillon&#039;s Forms ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Shouldn&#039;t there be a section about which area gets which Vivillon form? Or should that be on the variant Pokémon article? [[User:KyuremTrainer|KyuremTrainer]] ([[User talk:KyuremTrainer|talk]]) 20:53, 28 October 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, we can try to find a way. But currently, there&#039;s just too many to list, dunno how we&#039;re gonna fit it on the article without making it huge. --[[User:Sekuiya|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;font-family:Verdana;color:#619DD9;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Sekuiya&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Sekuiya|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF7B1B;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 11:45, 31 October 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Okay... WHOA I just checked a website... The table is gonna be loooooong...&lt;br /&gt;
::(To start the list though, I know being in Minnesota makes you have a Modern Vivillon :D) [[User:KyuremTrainer|KyuremTrainer]] ([[User talk:KyuremTrainer|talk]]) 00:32, 1 November 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That would go [[Form differences|here]]. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 18:52, 3 November 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Friend Safari Bug(?) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It seems that if you have a Vivillon in a Friend Safari, the little preview picture of it will never fill in and appear to be blank as if you hadn&#039;t yet encountered it. Would this be something the page should note? [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] ([[User talk:PowerPlantRaichu|talk]]) 17:29, 16 November 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Are we gonna talk about it&#039;s National Dex number? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe in the Trivia section... {{unsigned|Checkmate824}}&lt;br /&gt;
:There&#039;s really nothing notable about it. It&#039;s just a number. [[User:Crystal Talian|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#9F00C5&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Crystal&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF00FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Talian&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 16:04, 28 November 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pattern determined when generated ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The current description states that the pattern is determined by Original Trainer. This should either be reworded or a piece of trivia added to clarify what happens in the case of eggs. In the case of an egg, the pattern is determined by the game the egg was generated in. Thus it is possible to have a Vivillon with a pattern that does not match the geographic location of it&#039;s Original Trainer. [[User:Hamner|Hamner]] ([[User talk:Hamner|talk]]) 06:41, 10 December 2013 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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