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Talk:Professor Oak

2012-04-02T02:44:20Z

GuestHD: /* Oak's Gen I party */

== Imposter Oak ==
Impostor Oak should have a disambig, since he's also in the How I Became A Pokémon Card comics, so he'll need a page for that.

That guy doesn't have a name given, though. [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]] 23:19, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

== Takeshi Shudo ==

Does anyone have any info on this [[Takeshi Shudō]] guy and the novels he wrote? This goes out to the guy who put in this info, whoever he/she is [[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 13:15, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

== Seaking? ==

When was his Seaking referred to? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:23, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
:[[SS015|Putting the Air Back in Aerodactyl]] --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 17:37, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

== Professor Oak's Charmeleon ==
I was thinking of making a ''Professor Oak's Charmeleon'' page. So before I get yelled at for making it (like what happened to me in [[Wynaut (anime)]], [[Kenny's Prinplup]], and [[Kenny's Alakazam]]), I was wondering if people think it would be nessecary. P.S. I know that is a confusing sentence Theryguy512 13:10, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

== SSBM Trophy info? ==

Should I add information on Professor Oak's trophy in Super Smash Bros. Melee? [[Image:Ani384MS.gif]][[User:ShinyRayquaza|ShinyRayquaza]] 20:32, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
:Yes. We already have that information for [[Misty]]. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 21:05, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

== Sammy Oak ==

Am I the only one that thinks that Professor Oak looks NOTHING like his younger self? I know it's not just the age difference. They're eyes are completely different and so is their hair. --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 02:04, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
:Hair doesn't really mean anything (he's an old man and it's been ''several'' years; changing a hair style likes ten minutes), but yeah, their eyes are too different. But then again, that doesn't mean much either (at least in anime).--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 02:25, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

== 50? ==

Where/when does it ever say that his age is 50? --[[user:Baby G|Baby G]] ([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]]) 19:48, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

:In the 4th movie he is around Ash's age when he was brought from the future 40 years from the past. Simple math means he's around 50-55.--[[User:Outrage DD|Outrage DD]] 02:11, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:: Since we don't actually know his age back then, whose against chaning it to Approx. 50 as the listed age?--[[User:Outrage DD|Outrage DD]] 02:13, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:::The fact that Rowan says he (Oak) is ten years in his junior and says that he (Rowan) has lived for sixty years is a better reason. And it should stay for that reason. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:15, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::::WHen you get that old people tend to round their ages up or down to the nearest tenth but there's no proof of that. Also Professor Oak would be one young Grandfather if he's only fifty by D/P time.--[[User:Outrage DD|Outrage DD]] 00:45, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::You have to remember that in Japan, grandparents are YOUNG. Or at least, in Japanese media, but I assume that refers to the actual situation in Japan. If most couples are married by 20, and immediately have children, then you can have a 50 year old grandfather at the age of 10. "40 years ago, when I was your age" seems to be a common reoccuring theme for Anime/Manga grandparents. Also note that this age estimate was never present in the games, and considering the more youthful appearance of Oak and Agatha in the anime rather than in the games, we can probably assume that Blue's grandfather is older than 50. Remember, he's too old to go out travelling the world, training and fighting with Pokémon. Prof. Oak in the anime even uses a Dragonite in battle, so various things don't apply cross-canon. But it's not too inconceivable to have a 50 year old grandfather. In America these days, we often don't have children until much later, let alone get married around 20 (usually, marriage occurs in mid to late 20s, again, IN AMERICA). But my grandparents had my dad when my grandmother was 19 and my grandfather was 21, so if my dad had done the same, I would have had a 50 year old grandfather (approximately). Because I wasn't born until much later, I don't. But it's all about culture here. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 04:51, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Proven both via in-game dialog (Rowan is 10 years Oak's senior at 60) and the anime (Oak was 10 40 years ago). Oak's 50. Well. 50 in Gen II/IV, and 47 in I/III. The question is... what do we put it as, 47 or 50? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:11, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

== What's with the pic ==

Why is there an Anime picture under the game's artwork section? Atleast I think its from the anime, I've never seen that before. Where's it from?--[[User:Outrage DD|Outrage DD]] 02:14, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

== Huh? ==

Why is the fact that you can actually fight Professor Oak through a glitch in Generation I not here? I think that's a very important piece of information. --[[User:Alex S.|Alex S.]] 23:17, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Whoops, I missed it. But shouldn't there be a Pokémon In Team thing for his Pokémon from Generation I? --[[User:Alex S.|Alex S.]] 23:23, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

== Status Unknown? ==
Should Charmeleon be under 'Status Unknown' as it only appeared in Pokémon 4Ever, and the Oak in that was about 40-50 years younger than the one now? [[User:Simpsonsdude13| Elliot]] 09:16, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

== Sammy Oak ==
I think he needs his own page. He was a main character in a movie! This page doesnt even say much about him. --[[User:Blake|Blake]] 18:51, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
:If you have something to add about Sammy, go and at it there. We don't do multiple page for a single character (except maybe Ash as Ashley and Asachu, different circumstances). '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 04:03, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

== Dialogue in Oak's Letter event ==

Marley: ''I... I don't like to talk... I choose my words carefully, but they may still hurt someone accidentally... When I think of that, I clam up...''

''That's why I think this certain Pokemon is so wonderful. It's a Pokemon that conveys the feelings of gratitude in a nice way...''

''That stone tablet... It has a strange feel to it...''

Oak: ''Ah, (Player's name here)! It's good to see you! Without any further ado, I'd like you to examine this stone tablet. Something just like it was also discovered in the Kanto region. I want to ask for your help in solving the mystery behind this.''

*Player Character approaches the stone tablet.

Oak: ''I tried deciphering the engravings on this stone tablet. Apparently, it is for a Trainer to engrave his or her thoughts after growing as a person on an adventure.''

''A trainer fitting that description would be you.''

''That's why I'm asking for your help. You've met many people and Pokemon; you've experienced many things that shaped you into the person you are. I want you to sincerely tell me who affected you the most. Tell me, to whom do you most want to say your thanks?''

*Player Character enters an answer.

Oak: ''Hm... You most want to express your thanks to (Player's choice here)? You're absolutely certain of it?"

*Player Character says yes.

*Screen whites out, Seabreak Path appears, Shaymin runs along and cries twice. The whole area is now covered in flowers instead of dirt.

Oak: ''?! What was that Pokemon? Is it somehow connected to the stone tablet? Hmm... Where did that Pokemon go? Its destination is intriguing.''

Marley: ''Thank you... That must have been the Pokemon that conveys the feelings of gratitude... You made it so I could see it... So, I'll have to convey thanks in my own words, too...

''To you, too... Thank you..."

[[User:CubeShapedWatermelon|CubeShapedWatermelon]] 22:53, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

== Oak's Gen I party ==

What exactly determines his choice of a starter? Is it the same as your rival's, or is it the one you left behind? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:57, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
:I have confirmed this information 100% and will change it very soon. Oak's starter is the Pokémon that your rival and you left behind. E.G. You choose Charmander, your rival chooses squirtle, Oak is left with a Bulbasaur(Venasaur). and yes, I have tested this information three times with three save files, and three starter choices. --[[User:Gen1king|''GEN'']]1[[User talk:Gen1king|KING]] 04:44, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
::Whoops. I don't know the movesets of blastoise or venasaur :P. Any help researching would be greatly appreciated. --[[User:Gen1king|''GEN'']]1[[User talk:Gen1king|KING]] 04:52, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
:::ok, I've found a Blastoise moveset:
Skull Bash
Bite
Withdraw
Hydro Pump

so now we just need Venasaur. --[[User:Gen1king|''GEN'']]1[[User talk:Gen1king|KING]] 05:08, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

I was kind of confused by this portion of text: "The only known ways to battle Oak are by performing the Ditto glitch with a Special stat of 226 or by performing the old man glitch with MN as the character in the 3rd, 5th or 7th slot of the player's name. These teams cannot be battled via using the old man glitch, ..." Does the old man glitch work or not?

== There is no link to Pokemon senryu. ==

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Senryu
Is senryu deleted in the non-Japanese version? [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 13:30, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, like ending and next episode preview. By the way, you should learn using brackets <code>[[]]</code> when linking.--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|でんのう]] ☢ [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|'''Z'''えんし]] 13:44, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
::Thank you for the explanation. The mystery was able to be solved. Thank you for the instruction about [[]]. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 13:50, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:::It is deleted in all 4-Kids/PUSA(English)-based versions, but kept in the Chinese version, and possibly other non-4-Kids/PUSA-based versions. (4KidsとPUSAを変えた英語版や英語版から作った外国版で削除された、でも中国語版やほかの日本語版から作った外国版ではまだ有ると思う。) [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 14:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Thank you. It was understood that there were various versions.[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 14:17, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Trainer class ==

"He is the only character in the games to have the Trainer class Prof.; however, it is impossible to battle him during normal gameplay, and this situation is only applicable to Generation I." Since there really are no trainer classes in 1st gen, I'm gonna remove this line from the top of the page, if there are no objections. :) [[User:Okoa|Okoa]] 06:25, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, I think that is a good idea. His name is "Prof. Oak", it's not that his Trainer class is "Prof" and he is "Oak". --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:30, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::I agree. It depends what is meant by "trainer class"; was the general consensus "class" as in occupation? If so, I guess maybe we should keep him as "Prof. Oak" under some kind of 'unique trainers in Generation I' template, where the different gym leaders, Blue* and Professor Oak* would be included, all the others could fit into 'trainer type'. I know it seems rather strange to do that but as you suggested; Generation I doesn't use a 'trainer prefix' byte. Generation I only uses a single 8-bit byte for 'trainer type', though there is a separate roster address 0xD05D [01XX5DD0], which defines which team the trainer uses (as you know, changeable via the Ditto Trick/Old Man Trick). For trainers like Youngster 'class' makes sense but not for Prof. Oak, though he has three teams regardless. Something that needs to be changed; "Rival" and "Leader" were added to the template as "Generation I introduced" trainer classes, that needs to be removed.

:::<nowiki>*</nowiki> P.S. Note that internally Blue is actually three different trainers with three rosters each and that Prof. Oak is a single trainer with three rosters. That should probably have to be noted somewhere. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 17:00, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

:::I agree, and I'm glad you brought that up because I had another question relating to that. I had also added notes before each of Oak's teams ("If the player chose Bulbasaur" and so forth), but someone removed that almost immediately after. I was under the impression, from another discussion here, that Oak's starter was the starter not chosen by either you or the rival (basically, the one that's weak against yours). Is that not the case, or do we not know for sure? [[User:Okoa|Okoa]] 21:41, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

== Ash's Missing Pokémon? ==

Hey I noticed that a couple of {{Ash}}'s Pokémon (that he has residing at the lab) are missing from Professor Oak's page. The ones that I noticed that were missing were {{AP|Donphan}} and {{AP|Noctowl}}. Shouldn't they be there? AFAIK, didn't they go back there after the Lily of the Valley Tournament? Just curious. --[[User:Jediknightdtv|ジェダイの騎士]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|デジタルテレビ]] 17:35, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
:yep, they should be there :/ [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 20:52, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

== Samuel Oak ==

His first name is only mentioned in the anime. With that said, I believe all mentioning of Samuel Oak should be removed from this page since we have [[Professor Oak (anime)|this]] now. Also, I think [[Samuel Oak]] should redirect to Professor Oak (anime) and not here. Any opinions on the matter? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:21, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
:I'm with you on this one. I don't think they've ever referred to Oak by his first name in the games, so I don't see why not. [[Typhlosion|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon|★]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]] 23:16, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

== Oak's Pokémon in GenI ==
So, used the name "Mr.[Pk][Mn]" and did the "old man glitch". Oak appeared, but his 6 Pokémon were Drowzee, Rhydon, Pidgey, Grimer, Missingno. (-> game crash...), each on Lv. 111. Do you have to beat the elite four or something to challenge his "real" team or did this happen, because one used the German version of Pokémon Blue? --[[User:Bernd|Bernd]] 00:50, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
:Amended the article. {{MN}} does yield Oak, but due to there being no character that corresponds to the index number of his teams (which are 1, 2, and 3), it is impossible to fight one of these teams. You would have fought team #225, which is just garbage data. The only way to fight these teams is via the {{DL|Mew glitch|Ditto glitch}} after lowering the Ditto's attack by 4, 5, or 6 stages (which correspond to teams 3, 2, and 1, respectively). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:20, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Dragon's Den

2012-03-15T00:19:06Z

GuestHD: /* Intro */

Now, this double battle with Lance and Clair. The article says this occasionally happens, but it seems to me it's a one time thing. So, which is it? --[[User:Ryuutakeshi|Ryuutakeshi]] 03:37, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
:I want to bring this back up. Does it really happen multiple times? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 01:35, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
::I read elsewhere that doing the double battle resets Silver appearing at the Indigo League (or vice versa). Of course, I'm only at Goldenrod... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:38, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Silver appears at the Indigo League once every Monday and Wednesday... So I don't think that's the case... I just finished a league rematch, so if it's vice versa, I'll go check... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 01:42, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
::::It isn't the case... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 01:44, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::I've been checking the Dragon's Den every day since reading about the "occasional" happening of the tag battle, but to no avail. I'm afraid it may very well be a one-time deal, as [[User:Ryuutakeshi|Ryuutakeshi]] stated. [[User:Anhsieh|Anhsieh]] 22:47, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Have you tried rebattling the Elite Four or Red? Events have a "reset" sort of function on some game events. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:15, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

'''
Items'''

Should the location and type of items available to be found in the den be added to the page? I know there's at least a Max Elixer and a Dragon Fang. [[User:GuestHD|GuestHD]] 00:19, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

==Wild Dratini's Level==
I've found wild Dratini in here (surfing) ranging from levels 7-15 in HeartGold, English version. I'm still kind of a newbie to editing around here, so I don't want to push the actual update and risk stepping on toes. -- [[User:MaoDaAmargura|MaoDaAmargura]] 03:35, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

I have found this to be false as i used a Super Rod and the 1st Dratini i caught was a level 40. Can someone please fix this or somehow mention it on the page? I wouldn't doubt that the levels from Crystal were the same in HG/SS again. [[User:Yourlilemogirl|Yourlilemogirl]] 04:54, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:I've added that. I'd be surprised if the whole list isn't ''actually'' the same as GSC, but I don't actually know. I went through there as fast as I could and haven't got around to going back yet (not even for the gift Dratini). <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:49, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

I just updated the page with Dratini levels as well has magikarp levels. I went fishing then remembered that Old Rods give level 10 pokemon, Good Rods give level 20 pokemon, and Super Rods give level 40 pokemon. After about 3 fishing attempts I figured out that the only time you can't catch a Dratini with a rod is the Old Rod. I've changed the pokemon available table to reflect this. [[User:boriater|boriater]] 02:04, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

== The dratini ==

is there really an dratini that is given on hg/ss? im playing soulsilver but ive come so many times in the den but when i talk to the master he always talks about the whirl islands,, {{unsigned|Wisp82}}
:I did receive a Dratini at Dragon's Den... the article says you have to leave the Den and re-enter and then you can get Dratini, have you tried that? --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 13:54, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::yeah i did that.. and even i re-entered after beating red i didn't receive anything {{Unsigned|Wisp82}}

You need to go back to the gym and get your Dragon Pulse TM from Clair before the Elder will give you the Dratini. [[User:Quadropheneom|Quadropheneom]] 14:58, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
:I've just done this and can confirm returning to Clair for the TM is needed before the elder will give the dratini. I also tried this twice, with different answers each time, and he gave me the dratini both times. It could be worth investigating if the answers matter at all. [[User:Object In Space|Object In Space]] 14:35, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

== Maps ==

Would it be possible to get HG/SS Maps? You can find several on the internet, but I don't know how to go about getting permission or making my own to upload. [[User:Yleron|Yleron]] 09:12, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Charmander (Pokémon)/Generation I learnset

2012-03-10T02:00:29Z

GuestHD: Created page with "Changelog: corrected Firespin from level 49 to level 46. I have verified level 46 to be correct through personally reaching that level and it also agrees with the level listed..."

Changelog: corrected Firespin from level 49 to level 46. I have verified level 46 to be correct through personally reaching that level and it also agrees with the level listed for Charmander on the page for Firespin.
[[User:GuestHD|GuestHD]] 02:00, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Charmander (Pokémon)/Generation I learnset

2012-03-10T01:58:44Z

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