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== Protection ==
Shouldn't this be protected to prevent vandelism much like the main page is? [[User:Truthseeker4449|Truth]][[User talk:Truthseeker4449|seeker]][[Special:Contributions/Truthseeker4449|4449]] 13:04, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
: It is protected.--[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
::I know it is now, it wasn't when I post the message above. And I stayed up to date on status of the page and thus noticed when it was semi-protected then fully protected. [[User:Truthseeker4449|Truth]][[User talk:Truthseeker4449|seeker]][[Special:Contributions/Truthseeker4449|4449]] 20:30, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
== Tentacool ==

I need help changing one of the type effects of Tentacool over to somewhere else. I am a new member so I don't know how to do all these changes so if someone can help that will be nice.

what needs to be changed is electric needs to be taken out of tentacool's weakness column and put in the regular effect column. if someone can tell me how to do that then that will be nice thanks again.
([[User:Roadmaster84|Roadmaster84]] 23:29, 21 December 2011 (UTC))
:Tentacool is a {{t|Water}}/{{t|Poison}} Pokémon. Water is weak to Electric and Poison is neutral to Electric. Therefore Tentacool is weak to Electric moves and the existing chart is correct. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 23:38, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

== Page Like "Incomplete" for "Bad Picture"? ==

Is there a section for Bad Picture just like there is for [[:Category:Articles needing more information|Incomplete]]? I can't find it anywhere! --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] 00:19, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
:[[:Category:Articles needing better pictures|You mean like this?]] [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 00:23, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
::Cool! Where did you find that link? If it is really hidden and out of the way, I think it should be in the box with the Machop. --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] 00:39, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
:::I don't know what machop you're talking about, but it's in the categories on any page that has that template. In particular, I found it [[Brawly|here]]. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 00:56, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
::::The Machop on the Editor's Hub page! There are three links to get you started improving articles. --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] 01:06, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
:::::Oh, haha, I see. I rarely look at the Editor Hub. Alright, I added it. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:11, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

== Recycle restoring Air Balloon ==

The page [[Recycle]] doesn't mention anything about being able/unable to restore a popped Air Balloon. Shouldn't that be changed? [[User:PC-Reviver|PC-Reviver]] 15:59, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
:No, because a popped Air Balloon is an item that's been consumed, and thus falls under the category of consumed items. - ''signed comment from [[User:BisumitoIsSnazzy|q~Bisumito is Snazzy~p]] ([[User talk:BisumitoIsSnazzy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/BisumitoIsSnazzy|contribs]])'' 20:31, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

== how do i get permission to make pages ==

hi im new and wondering how to make pages [[User:Xspeedx|Xspeedx]] 18:05, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
:You need to make a (top secret) number of edits to the mainspace (i.e. articles) and have had your account for a short (also top secret) length of time. This is done so that you get a chance +to learn our rules and styles before trying to build a page on your own. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:54, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

== I need advice ==

Hi, I saw the Anville town Article and saw the section at the top said you can get to anvillle town using the Anville town line in the battle subway. I was thinking that changing it to the Brown line because it's colour is brown? I'm not sure if i should but please tell me if i'm right! [[User:SkyAltaria1|SkyAltaria1]] 14:16, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
:Perhaps it would be more precise to change it the brown line instead of just saying "Anville line". I don't think there's any harm in changing it. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 15:38, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Ok Thanks :) [[User:SkyAltaria1|SkyAltaria1]] 06:49, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I need advice too. I know of a glitch that is fairly well-known, yet this wiki doesn't have a page for it. I notice that most glitches have their own pages as well as appearing on the List of Glitches section of the Glitch page. However, I don't have permission to make pages yet. Should I just add this glitch to the List of Glitches and hope someone else makes a page for it, or should I request that a page for it be made, or what? [[User:HappyGasGames|HappyGasGames]] ([[User talk:HappyGasGames|talk]]) 17:06, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
:If you have a question on a topic that's glitch related, you should talk to {{u|SnorlaxMonster}}. He's the leader of Project:Glichdex and would probably have the answers you're looking for. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 17:10, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

== Romanization ==
I'm not entirely fond of how Bulbapedia handles their Japanese names for things, primarily how we use the trademarked name and completely ignore the rōmaji. Yes, I think it's important to have the trademarked Japanese names, but I think it's also equally important to have the bare rōmaji, too. I think it would be effective to use the <nowiki>{{tt}}</nowiki> template around the Japanese text itself to show the rōmaji alongside the trademarked name. For example, it would look like this: {{tt|ラルトス|Rarutosu}} ''Ralts'' or {{tt|カメックス|Kamekkusu}} ''Kamex''. Would anyone object to me going around and doing this? [[User:Mitsuru|Mitsuru]] 23:13, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
:[[List of Japanese Pokémon names]]. This does that. I personally do not like the idea for esthetic reasons. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:19, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
::Alright, but it applies to more than just Pokémon themselves. Many pages unrelated to Pokémon suffer the same ([[Snag Machine]], [[N]], etc.). And I disagree; I don't think it's too much of an eyesore, and it's hardly invasive. [[User:Mitsuru|Mitsuru]] 03:06, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

== BW2 Soundtrack ==
Do we need a page for the BW2 soundtrack "Pokémon Black 2 & White 2 Super Music Complete"? I have the CD here and I figured I might as well contribute. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 20:00, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Nobody? No. Okay, you can remove it if you don't like it. It was fun to do anyway. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 00:02, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

== Bulbawiki Festive Frontier? ==

"As outlined on Bulbagarden forums, Bulbapedia is done hosting its second annual Christmas Improvement Drive. The Festive Frontier challenge is now over."

Wasn't the Festive Frontier challenge from last year or was it a few months ago? (Just curious since it is currently up on the page.) --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 02:34, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

== Update? ==

Staff of PokéPark 2 is already made. Don't you think we should take it off the Needed articles section? [[User:YoshisWorld|'''☆ヨッシ''']] [[Special:Contributions/YoshisWorld|'''ー''']] [[User talk:YoshisWorld|'''の世界☆''']] 00:17, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

== Edits ==

How many Edits do I need to do/have to add New Articles?
[[User:Lskitto|Lskitto]] ([[User talk:Lskitto|talk]]) 04:52, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
:It's an secret amount of edits and a secret amount of time that is only known to staff. Keep editing, and you'll eventually be able to start articles. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 04:54, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

== Screenshots ==
How do you get a screenshot of an entire city/route/area in the video games?
[[User:152105|152105]] ([[User talk:152105|talk]]) 20:14, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

== Linking Pages ==

When I put in a link to another page it always comes out as Template:whatever-the-article-name-is and I have no idea why.[[User:Uglycats101|Uglycats101]] ([[User talk:Uglycats101|talk]]) 13:26, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
:<nowiki>It would be because you are using {{ and }} to link instead of [[ and ]] one links to templates the other links to pages.</nowiki> --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 13:41, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
oh thanks so much, it works!!! but how do I get those brackets you used they're not on my keyboard or in the character palette at the bottom of the screen I'm currently using copy and paste to get them in. [[User:Uglycats101|Uglycats101]] ([[User talk:Uglycats101|talk]]) 13:30, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
:What keyboard layout do you have? It would be incredibly unusual for any keyboard to not have those brackets. On a standard QWERTY keyboard, they're immediately to the right of the P key, such that typing this whole row yields <code>QWERTYUIOP[]\</code>. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 17:14, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
oh my gosh, im so dumb, thanks so much for that [[User:Uglycats101|Uglycats101]] ([[User talk:Uglycats101|talk]]) 15:19, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

== Kato and Kiko ==

I need help adding a trivia sentence for Kato and Kiko. I don't want to try and add a new trivia sentence and end up messing up the whole thing for their trivia. Either someone help me or ill just tell you what I want to post so you can do it yourselves:

For Kato's trivia: Kato's hairstyle resembles the horn of his pokemon, Heracross.

For Kiko's trivia: Kiko's hairstyle resembles the wings of her pokemon, Beautifly.

If you can tell me how to post it that would be excellent or if you want to post it yourself that would be just as excellent. If you end up doing it yourself don't add both on one just kato's on Kato's page and Kiko's on Kiko@'s page. I don't mind either way as long as it manages to get posted and i have some credit for it. Thanks. ([[User:RioluMaster1123|RioluMaster1123]] ([[User talk:RioluMaster1123|talk]]) 01:01, 8 June 2013 (UTC))

==Message of the Day==

There are no more featured MotDs. That part of this page should be replaced. [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] [[User talk:Spyspotter|says…]] Edit the mainspace, [[Special:ListUsers|kids!]] 03:08, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
:I don't see any "Message of the Day" on this page. Unless you mean the Message from the Editor, which should stay and will be updated when there is new information to put there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:28, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
::I mean the featured content. - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Spyspotter}} ([[User talk:Spyspotter|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spyspotter|contribs]]) '' 01:00, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

== Protection of Pokemon X/Y related articles ==

I've been noticing that the admins on this site have been protecting almost all Pokemon X/Y related articles and not allowing normal users due to "Speculation Crackdown" till after October 12. It's kind of harsh because not all normal users registered users on this site are speculators. Some really want to help this site gather information from official sources as the game's release draws closer. [[User:Blueknightex|Blueknightex]] ([[User talk:Blueknightex|talk]]) 09:41, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
:While not all registered users will add speculation, it only takes a handful of users to wreak massive havoc across a wide spread of pages. A lot of XY articles were locked as a reaction to speculation, not as a proactive measure. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:48, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
:Speculation would not be good for bulbapedia's reputation, and I'm sure no-one wants that! Like [[User:Blueknightex|Blueknightex]] said, it only takes a handful of people to wreak havoc with speculations and rumours. --[[User:KyuremDialga101|KyuremDialga101]] ([[User talk:KyuremDialga101|talk]]) 01:11, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

== Article on Ash's Charizard does not need editing ==

I noticed that the article [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ash's_Charizard|Ash's Charizard] was in need of an English voice actor. However, after some heavy research, I found out that the voice actor is the same as the Japanese one. What do I do now? Please help, I just joined!
--[[User:KyuremDialga101|KyuremDialga101]] ([[User talk:KyuremDialga101|talk]]) 01:08, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
:It could refer to Charmander and Charmeleon. They showed up in flashbacks during BW and, while I didn't watch the episode myself, it could be they spoke during the flashbacks, and had different voice actors. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:11, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
::Hi. The voice actor data for Charmander and Charmeleon was present, so it was not referring to them. Currently, the page is showing that for Charizard, the Japanese voice actor did both the Japanese AND the English roles. However, Bulbapedia has named the data as incomplete. Is there anyone I could take my concerns to? Thanks. --[[User:KyuremDialga101|KyuremDialga101]] ([[User talk:KyuremDialga101|talk]]) 01:13, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
:::Charmander and Charmeleon's voice actors on the article are the 4kids actors. During the Advanced Generation the dub was passed on to DuArt. For example, look at [[Ash's Bulbasaur]]. See how it says Tara Jayne for EP010-AG133 then Michele Knotz as current? That's because of the voice actor swap. Since Charmander and Charmeleon appeared in the Best Wishes series, they would have been given new voice actors. Those are the ones that are missing. If you want, you can leave a message on {{u|Kenji-girl}}'s talk page. She's been busy lately so it might take her a while to respond. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:26, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

== Regarding Volcanion, Hoopa and Diancie ==

Should we create pages for them yet? We know they are real, and this sort of thing has been done with other event pokemon like Arceus and Genesect. I have pictures which have been confirmed real that we could put in the articles too.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 01:50, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:We do not know they are real. All we know is that other fansites have circulated rumors about them. We do not take info from other fansites. We are an encyclopedia, not a rumor mill. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:16, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
::I think we know that they're names of potential Pokémon, due to GTS stuff, but that doesn't seem like enough for a page. --[[User:WyndFox|Wynd]] [[User talk:WyndFox|Fox]] 02:36, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:::You can find them in game, GBA Temps has a wild modifier code for them. And the fact that there is already in-game proof (the GTS tests) kind of confirms it's all real. Remember that stuff had been added about previous event 'mons without knowing much about them too.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 05:03, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
::::For those of us who don't know, can you explain what GBA Temps is? And how wild modifier codes work? --[[User:WyndFox|Wynd]] [[User talk:WyndFox|Fox]] 05:27, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::GBA Temps is a website that I imagine distributes cheat codes. Wild modifiers work by simply changeing the pokemon that normally appear in an area to the one specified in the cheat code, as it temporarily alters the game's code. Say, if you put an identifier of 001 in there you would find bulbasaur for example. EDIT: Wait, wrong place, it ws a different guy who made the modifier, GBA Temps made a .pkx editor that could also be used to get the pokemon in game, if anyone wants to test and see, I have a link [http://gbatemp.net/threads/pkx-editor-by-codemonkey85.356901]/--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 05:40, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::Serebii has just confirmed the existence of Diancie, Hoopa, Volcanion, Mega [[Latios]] and Mega [[Latias]] as possible event Pokémon with pictures associated. --[[User:Wolfy Harfleur 76700|Wolfy Harfleur 76700]] ([[User talk:Wolfy Harfleur 76700|talk]]) 10:35, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Joe literally wrote in his news story on serebii "Do note, these are still unconfirmed." ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 14:41, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
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It seems people have forgotten that this site is, above all else, an ''encyclopedia''. I've seen some wikis have speculative articles and then have some tag at the top of the page saying "This is unconfirmed, yada yada yada." That's extremely unprofessional, and it makes way for a truck load of spam articles under the guise of being "unconfirmed". A good wiki, Bulbapedia included, uses the agenda of official confirmation being ''absolutely crucial''. As much as it may seem, at the current moment, that these three Pokémon and the Mega-Eons are as real as real can get, leaked information is the exact opposite of confirmed information. Even Serebii's no fool. He's not going around asserting that everything he finds is fact. As Nate even said, the words "Do note, these are still unconfirmed" are used on his site. Besides, it's god-honestly better to ''not'' have the information until it's confirmed than to have guesswork that turns out to be wrong. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 15:29, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:correct me if I am wrong but didn't bulbapedia treat meloetta, keldeo and genesect as real pokemon before they were officialy confirmed? It doesn't seem any different here. [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 15:46, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
::The problem is that we could still access the game data to be able to confirm it. We cannot access the game data this time around, which is why we still do not have a lot of images of the Generation VI stuff. Unless we can find data on the PGL to confirm this, we have to treat it like false info until we have proof it is true. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 17:15, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:::In which you can use the hacks to get the pokemon to put into the PGL to prove they're real.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 21:28, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
::::You cannot put Pokémon into the PGL, that was only Dream World, which only works for Generation V games. Not to mention that the Pokémon shown could be dummied out Pokémon left on the cart. We will need to wait for proof, whether it is from files on the PGL or some info from Nintendo. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 21:44, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::How would one get this info from the PGL? Like people got all the DW art and stuff didn't they? And also I'm quite sure they wouldn't leave dummy 'mons in the game, they would have been replaced with Bad Eggs.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 21:48, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::Files. Every website that uses pictures needs to reference the picture in the website. Thus, most pictures are hosted in the same server as the website itself. Basically, if the images are added to the server, we just need to peek into the server's files and see what is there, which is how we got the other files. As for the other part, why are there two Vivillon patterns in the game that no one has obtained? We don't know what GF has done or will do with them. They could be available or they could be dummied out, though they still seem to exist for the moment as dummied out data. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 23:44, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Hmmm, perhaps they don't plan on adding the picture files until they're officially revealed. After all, I don't think they added the picture files into the PGL for Keldeo, Meloetta and Genesect until they were revealed, did they?--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 00:49, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
{{indent}} Back on the "dummied out content" thing, yes, there's plenty of dummied out content left in the game's code among all of the older games. Bulbapedia has pages specifically on said content. I can't say I'd be too surprised to find out that some species ended up in this genre. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 02:31, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
:On the topic of PGL files, there are two placeholder Vivillon patterns (which are the same as the default pattern), indicating that there are likely to be 2 more Vivillon patterns (matching the leak). The Mythical Pokémon do not appear on the PGL currently. Mega Evolutions all have placeholder artworks (it's just a copy of the Pokémon's standard artwork), and currently there is no placeholder for Mega Latios or Latias. Chances are things that aren't currently there will be added at a later time. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:10, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
While the chance is there that they could be fake ([http://pokejungle.net/2013/10/31/rumour-legends-leaked-by-hacking/ this page even says so]), the fact that this person was able to cause the three legendaries to appear in one of the early Routes pretty much confirms they are real. If those are Photoshopped images, they're pretty good. Additionally, seeing them on the GTS and not filtered out as gibberish also confirms that they are real. The person writing the linked blog, as well, noted that he tried to encounter Pokémon #722 (meaning these came from 719-721) and the result was a Bad Egg, meaning there is nothing programmed after 721 and that is the end of the current Pokédex.

We ought to acknowledge this information. People have tested and confirmed that the data is there. Serebii even briefly had pages for the trio (since taken down, someone put up a screenshot of the three screengrabs as an image). Nintendo just hasn't released the info because they want to leave something for future announcements and events. Since they're already in the game, other than patching to get rid of them, Nintendo can't do much now to change it (and then what will they use for later games, and who says we have to use the patch? I mean, they can't get rid of this data in the games now!). Therefore, they exist, they just haven't been announced. Pages ought to be created even if they are tagged as unconfirmed Pokémon. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 18:32, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
:If you had been paying attention, no one is immediately saying they're faked or photoshopped. But what we ''are'' saying is they may very well be dummied out content. And again, as far as a wiki is concerned, if information is not 100% confirmed, it might as well be 100% fake. Bulbapedia has a reputation to keep, and if things that end up being utter bull get articles only for us to find out the truth later, how will that make the site look? And even if they are really there, they ''can'' indeed be patched out. That's what patches do. If someone who got, say, one of these "Volcanions" ends up losing data and having their save corrupted because it was patched out, well then that's their own fault. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 19:03, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
::Yes, I'm paying attention. Here's the thing: if they are dummied out, that makes them notable just for that and they deserve to be recognized as deleted Pokémon. Except perhaps for MissingNo, this would be the first case of this, no? That's notable, and what would be their page as real Pokémon can then be redirected to an article on the deleted trio. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 20:04, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
:::Just thought I'd also mention that if they were dummied out, it is highly unlikely they'd leave all the following data in and have it make sense- Pokedex Entries, Typing, Movesets, Graphical Data, Base Stats. Just a thought--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 01:56, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
::::Exactly. There are way too many dots to connect here that there's no way this is fake. I'm 99% certain at this point that all three of them are the Keldeo, Meloetta, and Genesect of this generation and we will have all three released by the time of either Hoenn remakes or Z (whichever is first). I'd gamble on it if I could. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 02:18, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::(edit conflict) We don't know any of that (except the graphical data) even exists. All we have are a single screenshot of each of them. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:19, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::What do you want him to do, take a video of him encountering and catching them, then showing off the Dex entries? [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 02:45, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
There's another test we could use to see if this is genuine, the guy who found them also managed to get screenshots of pixie plate arceus and Mew in the game, if the sprites match when Transporter is out we'll know that he truly hacked the game. pics on this twitter: https://twitter.com/PokmonGlobalNew [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] ([[User talk:Jmvb|talk]]) 11:34, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
::Replying to 0danmaster0 here, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Genesect_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&oldid=1188433 linked here] is the original draft of [[Genesect (Pokémon)]] from September 18, 2010. It got several more edits that day and the following days. Do we have information on exactly when Nintendo announced Genesect? I know it wasn't released until B2/W2 were released; that very day, in fact. That's two years. I doubt they announced it two years in advance.

::My point? We were posting an article about Genesect two years ahead of time. What would be different about an article on Hoopa since it has been found in the game? [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 16:10, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
:::Yes, but we had proof Genesect existed because we could hack the DS and get the data out. We still don't know these three aren't a hoax, because we still don't fully know how to hack the 3DS. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:19, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
::::Evidently this guy does know how to hack the 3DS. That's the same thing. I could have said Genesect was a hoax back then myself because I am not a hacker. Same argument. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 16:38, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::The difference is that when lots of people could do it, it was clearer that Keldeo, Meloetta and Genesect were real because so many independent sources were backing each other up. Currently, (as far as I know,) there's only this one guy "proving" these three, so we have no idea whether he's a good hacker or just a good counterfeiter. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:44, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::Pumpkinking has hit the nail on the head. The bottom line is if we can't replicate the results to verify, a random on the internet is nothing more than a dubious source. We can't repeat or verify those results. Therefore, they get no article. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 19:21, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::I still point out the fact that the names appear on the GTS. That validates them as real Pokémon. I will admit that the images could still be shopped (some are pretty good even of those), but the Pokémon names are real. If Nintendo patches them out after this independent crusade (for lack of a better word), then the article could be about what the names of the Pokémon would have been and were changed due to a hacker. A hacker causing Nintendo to change plans is notable. So one way or another, whether now or after news comes of a new patch that removes the names (impossible on the GTS though unless they close it briefly and remove all requests), an article will exist somewhere on either the Pokémon or the schematics surrounding them being changed (even when the trio does eventually come out with similar types and the would-be names are matched up). I still see no problem with very brief and locked pieces on the three and what has been discovered, with a byline at the top saying the information is unconfirmed. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 19:26, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::::Just thought I'd mention that we have Diancie's dex entry too. Kotaku said it, not sure if it's a reliable source though.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 00:52, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::''The bottom line is if we can't replicate the results to verify, a random on the internet is nothing more than a dubious source.''
:::::::::That's funny. Someone earlier said that the reason the article doesn't exist is because Nintendo hasn't announced it. However, Nintendo hadn't announced Keldeo, Meloetta, or Genesect and those articles came up with "multiple independent sources".
:::::::::We now have "multiple independent sources" confirming these three new Pokémon showing up as valid in the GTS by people requesting other than themselves, which is backed up by hacked data confirming their existance and with images (though again, I prefer video). Sersbii had pages up brifly, since taken down. This is exactly the scenario we had with the Unova group, just not as many sources. Yet now the rules are different because it's more convenient to wait for Nintendo to announce it before putting pages up.
:::::::::We need to stop changing the rules in convenient ways for a situation and just report what people have found out already. Wikipedia uses references as a method of sourcing ANY information. We have several sources, even if one main one is a blog and others are forums. That's enough for me for a video game (we're not sourcing nuclear fission or anything like that). If it turns out not to be real, we correct it. That's what a Wiki does. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 03:47, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::You're wrong with the part about "exactly the same scenario". As already said above, the key difference is being able to replicate the results; that is, unlike with DS games, the encryption for 3DS games is still yet to be broken so data mining is outright impossible. You can't make a ROM dump out of your X or Y game card, break in, and check the Pokémon specification data structures yourself. Instead, for anything other than the names, you need to rely on and believe the authenticity of the few still images by one community member. For the same reasons, we're still missing various things like complete movesets for many Pokémon, all up-to-date data for yet unavailable Gen I to Gen V Pokémon, and so on.
::::::::::Don't get me wrong, I personally don't have any objections for adding the trio into the wiki, but it seems that for now the only thing that can be proven with certainty is that the three names exist and are recognized by GTS as valid ones. That doesn't really yield good, comprehensive pages at this moment, so I understand why they're quite unwanted for now. '''Soulweaver''' (U.S.) ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 04:15, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::Perhaps someone should ask smea to supply the necessary information by his twitter account, after all HE is the one with this information. We know the pokemon exist, we don't officially know their appearance until we get solid proof, and everything else falls under the former category. If he could give us a video showing us exactly what he is doing, showing us the dex entries and types ''at least'', we might actually get somewhere. Same could go for the other discoveries too.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 05:22, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::: I have a feeling that they won't since they have apologized for spoiling the Pokémon already. Little hope on that route. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:27, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::: As for the other side of the problem, I am confused now with the issue. We know the Pokémon exist. We have proof that they exist. We can replicate the data, though not in the conventional way. We can even data mine the games to confirm it through a modified 3DS that bypasses the encryption issue, which is currently being done to determine how the game stores the data structure for individual Pokémon. The problem we have is over if the three Pokémon are actual Legendary Pokémon that exist in the game or if these are just dummied out Legendary Pokémon that Nintendo and Game Freak thought would be alright to leave on the cart without removing their existence. We cannot confirm that they are event Pokémon, so we cannot add them as articles at the moment. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:27, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::::I will concede that individual articles would not have a lot of information right now (heck, [[Xerneas (Pokémon)]] and [[Yveltal (Pokémon)]] were once like that even when they were announced). However, even if staunch "it's not official" people around here don't want to allow articles, we do need at least one: an article talking about the three and how they were discovered. I point out once again that the three are not being confirmed, the data is simply being reported on.
:::::::::::::and he apologized for "spoiling the Pokémon"? Some of us want to know everything, spoiler or not. I really want to see a video of these. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 16:22, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:(Resetting indent) What I don't get is why some people seem to be convinced they are dummied out when they are under the same circumstances as last gen's event pokemon. If they were dunnied out, they would leave all that important info in there. {{unsigned|BigBadBatter}}
::Because the data for the two other Vivillion is present in the games, but cannot be access without a modified 3DS. This is similar to past data, like ???-type Arceus. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 23:59, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:::Good point, but remember that was only in there to stop crashes, it was never meant to exist within the "actual" game--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 00:39, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
::::My guess? Those two Vivillon will be in the next games and can be traded into these ones. How? I don't have a guess on that yet, but maybe they are east and west like the Shellos. In that case, west (North America and possibly Europe) would get one, and east (yeah, beyond Europe, Africa included perhaps) would get the other. That would be consistent with the patterns based on your 3DS region bit. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 07:56, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
{{indent}} I think it's about time this topic be left alone and not touched again. ''Multiple'' staff members already said these three aren't getting articles until there is enough evidence to prove that they are absolutely and indisputably real, so let's leave it at that, shall we? [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 16:42, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
:I think the debate is not that they aren't real. It's about whether they should have articles without Nintendo confirmation. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 17:05, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
::Regardless, at least three staff members have all said they are not and have given a multitude of reasons. I don't even see why people are still arguing. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 17:12, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
:::Yeah, let's leave it for now. Apparently the offical facebook page made a random post about carbink, so we may see some interesting stuff...--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 23:00, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
::::The official japanese guide confirmed that there are 721 Pokémon[http://i.imgur.com/2QH3kPl.png] [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 12:36, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::Now this is interesting. More confirmation much?--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 22:47, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::Here's the thing. We ''do not'' report on or make articles for information that we cannot confirm ourselves. The person who discovered these did so through a method we cannot replicate. There may be three hidden legendaries, but we cannot confirm that these three are them. The difference between these and previous event legends is the fact we could view the game's code and confirm it ''ourselves''. So, to put it bluntly, until these are confirmed by Nintendo or a widespread method to view the game's code is available, these Pokemon will get ''no article''. No amount of arguing is going to change that. This discussion is serving no purpose whatsoever and should be done. If you want to discuss these rumored legendaries, you should take it the forums. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 22:56, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
they are real. no doubt. they are unannounced, there fore un obtainable, there fore unmarked. they WILL be made, and this guy did officialy find volcanion. there was also a leaked article on pokemon.com, quickly removed, for diancle. just make the pages, and delete them if need be. I will be watching for them in the new year, when I expect them to be announced, after torchic. and also, regarding pixie arcius and mew in x/y, they were added in the 1.1 patch which also allowed all pokemon to be added to the dex via pokebank. so In adding the pokebank, 1.1 had more than it seemed. prove me wrong, but I want evidence I am wrong. I know Nintendo, and this is legit. make the pages. I will cover the story. EDIT- while poking on serebii to take notes, I saw that they have a classification. I don't know if I can put them here, but am doing so any ways. :diancie the jewel pokemon, volcanion the steam pokemon, and hoopa the mischief pokemon. have I blown your mind??? proves their real! {{unsigned|Dra9onslayer}}

What height and weight could it be for the three event Pokémon, what body style do they have and what colour category do they have? [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ([[User talk:Cinday123|talk]]) 07:04, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
:Look, let's just leave it for now, as we don't have the tools to hack the game and find out for ourselves. Therefore, we cannot make the pages.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 23:50, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

I know staff members said don't put them up, and I'm not arguing that (that's a good policy, even if we can get into the game). I'm just wondering why people say it isn't the same as before. Because of course Darkrai could have been dummied out back in Gen IV, but now we know it wasn't. Just curious, is all, as that seems to be the big argument (Once again, I agree with the policy of not putting up the page until Gamefreak confirms, because of the risk of it being dummied out. Makes sense) --[[User:Shadowater|Shadowater]] ([[User talk:Shadowater|talk]]) 00:23, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
:The difference is that even if Darkrai, etc had been dummied out, we could hack the game so we still knew all of its data. We can't hack the 3DS, so none of the leaks about these three (except for their names on the GTS) are verifiable. We don't know whether the images floating around are legit or a clever Photoshop; we don't know whether the type combinations are true; we don't even know what order their National Dex numbers are in{{tt|*|and sources conflict on this last point — a pretty good sign that at least some of the other information is unreliable as well}}. There's literally nothing we can say in good conscience except "these are their names," whereas in the past, we could hack the game and reliably report every single piece of data for event-exclusives on the DS and prior systems. (That's my standpoint. I think this is a much more persuasive reason not to acknowledge them yet than the "what if they end up being dummied out" argument.) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 01:40, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
::Mostly quoting myself from above, "We know the Pokémon exist. We have proof that they exist. We can replicate the data, though not in the conventional way. We can even data mine the games to confirm it through a modified 3DS that bypasses the encryption issue, which is currently being done to determine how the game stores the data structure for individual Pokémon. The problem we have is over if the three Pokémon are actual Legendary Pokémon that exist in the game or if these are just dummied out Legendary Pokémon that Nintendo and Game Freak thought would be alright to leave on the cart without removing their existence. We cannot confirm that they are event Pokémon, so we cannot add them as articles at the moment." Remember that there is still data on the game for two more Vivillion forms that the Global Links files confirm. The problem is that this data, while present in the games, cannot be access without a modified 3DS. In Generation IV, we had data for the ???-type Arceus, which was never released for good reasons. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 05:10, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

I figure now is a good time to resurrect this discussion now that [http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/60943/t1957245-hoopa-volcanion-diancies-leaked-stats-abilities-types/ more evidence] has appeared from what appears to be a separate source, corroborating with leaks we've [http://www.pokedit.com/New+Legendaries+Diancie+Volcanion+Hoopa_8016.html already] [http://pokebeach.com/2013/12/information-on-diancie-hoopa-and-volcanion seen]. Dummied out or not, it appears what we've seen before was indeed correct. I also don't know if this was mentioned, but the PokEdit link also seems to have official Sugimori art, the two missing Vivillon patterns, and a model of AZ's Floette. This is getting harder and harder to call fake, if you ask me. [[User:VinLAURiA|VinLAURiA]] ([[User talk:VinLAURiA|talk]]) 18:05, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
:The artwork is fake, in case you were wondering: [http://xous54.deviantart.com/art/Diancie-410875572 Diancie], [http://xous54.deviantart.com/art/Volcanion-410762745 Volcanion], and [http://xous54.deviantart.com/art/Hoopa-410943259 Hoopa]. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 18:38, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Bulbapedia_talk:Editor%27s_Hub&diff=prev&oldid=2047544 Again, this is my response on the issue.] I still say that we should take the time to wait and see what GF will do. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 06:16, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Diancie was unveiled on CoroCoro, but I bet you Bulbapedians are going to say that even if it's not a fake, we can't say the same for the other two (and Mega Lati@s). Am I right? [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 21:18, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
:Fake is not the issue, but yes, that's exactly right. Diancie does not confirm anything else from leaks. We wait for official sources regardless of whether the leaks appear to be true. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:21, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
::I suppose that we should probably make a start on the page, shall we? --[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 21:40, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
:::{{u|Force Fire}} already [[User:Force Fire/Diancie (Pokémon)|has]]. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 21:52, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
:::Ah yes. I was wondering because the link in the Bulbanews article had no text on it.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 22:48, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
::With all due respect, I think that's completely unreasonable. If fake isn't the issue, then I fail to see what could be. Even if the other two ''were'' [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DummiedOut dummied out], there's no reasonable doubt left that these guys aren't still on the game card and with all the glitch Pokémon we document that have never been officially acknowledged, shouldn't we at least put in a word about how the other two exist but aren't officially revealed yet? Look, think of this from a practical standpoint: the circumstances have changed. Diancie's been officially announced and yet most of the data out there when you Google it (as people are bound to do now) are gonna come up with Hoopa and Volcanion along with it. And when they to go look it up on Bulbapedia, they'll find info on one of the three while the other two are still not even acknowledged to exist. What, are we just gonna play dumb and not confirm or deny anything still? I know to assume good faith and all that jazz, but I think Bulbapedia's official stance on this at the moment reeks of stubbornness for no good reason. At the very least, acknowledge the controversy around the matter with an administrative announcement or something instead of keeping everything in talk pages. At least make our stance on these three visible, rather than not even telling people ''why'' the other two aren't listed unless they go looking in the right places. [[User:VinLAURiA|VinLAURiA]] ([[User talk:VinLAURiA|talk]]) 17:24, 14 February 2014 (UTC) (Note for transparency's sake: I'm an [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Inclusionism inclusionist].)
:::Unfortunately, policy is policy, and unless we have more people hacking the 3DS, we won't get pages 'til the official reveal. If you'd like to hack the 3DS to prove a point, I believe Smea did it by running homebrew and pokemon Y at the same time, allowing him to see the game's code, developed wild modifier cheat codes, making the event 'mons appear.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 23:09, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHBc6RtW9y0#t=24]

someone recorded the mega lati duo in action. i think they are at least worth a mention now. hoopa and volcanion's articles can wait until similar footage appears. --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 16:12, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

::mega lati twins are out in the wild, although in an "Arceus/Genesect" manner rather than "nintendooo confirmdd" way. seeing as its arceus all over again, we should definetly mention the megas on their respective pages, there is nothing denying their exstince now. [[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 21:03, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
:::Datel has released a cheating device that can be used with X and Y. I think it's pretty safe to say that once some Bulbapedians get it and use it to get the Mega Lati twins and the event pokemon, these guys will be getting pages once we get the appropriate info. --[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 21:38, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
::::why do we need a bulbapedian to confirm? undisputable ecidence of at least the mega latis is sitting right in front of us. --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 21:54, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::Read the rest of the discussion.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 01:00, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

::::::i did its just people screaming at each othrr. we have undisputable proof of at least the lati duo's megas existing and the two legends in limbo are probably are just an ar code away, so why are we still saying "durr 50/50 chance of being real" and not adding this? we did it with arceus and genesect, so why ar the mega latis different?--[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 04:54, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

(resetting indent)OK, so now that we got the addition of Mega Latios and Mega Latias on the Megas page (the other relevant pages are locked unfortunately) , I'm pretty sure that this should be settled once and for all. We have indisputable evidence that Volcanion and Hoopa exist (thank you Datel), can we please make pages for them now? --[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 22:29, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
::i'm working on a draft of Hoopa's page right now. do we know whether or not the leak regarding the event trio's signature moves is true? --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 23:06, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
:::I imagine it is, but there is only one source at the moment.----[[User:BigBadBatter|Big]][[User talk:BigBadBatter|Bad]][[User:BigBadBatter|Batter]] 01:02, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
::::If you can't confirm something yourself, assume it's false until you can confirm it. That way there's no chance we're left with egg on our face. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:16, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::That's what I thought. We'll just have to wait 'til someone reliable gets the event 'mons then.----[[User:BigBadBatter|Big]][[User talk:BigBadBatter|Bad]][[User:BigBadBatter|Batter]] 03:59, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
::::::Okay, someone with a powersave has confirmed with a video that Diancie's signature move is Diamond Storm, it's a physical rock-type move, with 95 acc, 100 power and chance to boost defense, here are two videos [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF8lu7R-7Tg][http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLWExiyWuQQ]----[[User:BigBadBatter|Big]][[User talk:BigBadBatter|Bad]][[User:BigBadBatter|Batter]] 21:33, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Seeing as how Diancie has been officially revealed, as have the Poké Ball and Fancy Pattern Vivillon, can we know include Hoopa and Volcanion on Bulbapedia? Fairy-type Arceus was also confirmed true and Mega Lati@s has been added to the Mega Evolutions page. I can assume AZ's Floette will be released later as well, since there's also an event for that, but this is just about Volcanion and Hoopa. --[[User:BlackButterfree|BlackButterfree]] ([[User talk:BlackButterfree|talk]]) 23:55, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
:The key word being "officially revealed", which Hoopa and Volcanion haven't been. So no.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:46, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
::Neither have Mega Lati@s, which are featured quite prominently in the Mega Evolution page... --[[User:BlackButterfree|BlackButterfree]] ([[User talk:BlackButterfree|talk]]) 05:00, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
:::Mega Lati@s was added because a staff member was able to confirm the existence of the Lati@site via a device. Because they were able to confirm the Lati@site, Mega Lati@s are on the Mega Evolution page. While I don't really like that they are on the page, a staff member confirming the existence of the mega stone is satisfactory for me.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:49, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
:::::Well for me, satisfactory is YouTuber upon YouTuber showing video footage of them activating the Hoopa, Diancie, Volcanion and AZ's Floette events, which is exactly what's happened since around the time Diancie has been officially announced. I mean, it can't be that hard to find someone with a PowerSave and get them to activate the events in the presence of a Staff Member. This isn't 1996. --[[User:BlackButterfree|BlackButterfree]] ([[User talk:BlackButterfree|talk]]) 01:28, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
::::::I think this Hoopa and Volcanion situation is of the utmost importance. There has been multiple sources confirming without a show of a doubt the existence of both of them. I dont remember Arceus, Genosect, Meloetta, etc not being added before it was officially revealed by Nintendo. Saying that there's no way to check doesnt apply on this date. There's already documented tools to activate the event. For anyone that wants to check for themselves the tool you need is Datel Power Saves, which is available on Amazon and other online stores. [[User:Epsilonsama|Epsilonsama]] ([[User talk:Epsilonsama|talk]]) 19:34, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Whilst I completely understand that Volcanion and Hoopa remain unofficial, and whilst I agree that we should not pass them of as we would any other Pokémon due to the insufficient amount of data that has been able to be retrieved from the X and Y games, would it not be reasonable to have maybe a single article on both, and possibly the now-confirmed Diancie as well, stating that their names are recognised by the GTS, and that they have therefore been coded into the games in one way or another. Obviously we cannot pass off much other information about them, as there is very little of it that can truly be confirmed as official, however, a single short mention that the names of the Pokémon are coded into the games should suffice for the article. The names exist in the GTS without a doubt, in fact, that was how I first found out about them very early in the game when I went on to the GTS and saw someone requesting a Hoopa. The way I look at it, whether or not they are patched out of the game, never used/talked about again, swept under the carpet by Nintendo, or released as official Pokémon, we will eventually end up with an article about them, will we not? We currently have articles for unused prototype Pokémon such as Honōguma, Buhi, and Kurusu, and on backsprites for the early Shellos and Gastrodon from the coding of Ruby and Sapphire. Hoopa and Volcanion will essentially end up with their own pages, on a new page for patched out Pokémon, or on the page for prototype Pokémon. So, as little confirmed information on them as there is, surely it's noteworthy enough to at least acknwoledge them as sort-of-maybe-Pokémon-to-be that we know officially a little bit about, after all the GTS does recognise them as something, and if the GTS acknowledges them, then why shouldn't we? I understand that we know little about them, and the last thing I want to do is fuel a massive debate, but I think they at least deserve a little mention, no matter how ambiguous, somewhere rather than "What Pokémon? Huh? Who? Where? There's no Pokémon here!".--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 01:55, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
:[[Diancie|Diancie has an article already.]] As for the second issue, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Bulbapedia_talk:Editor%27s_Hub&diff=prev&oldid=2001611 you can see it has been talked about for a long, long time.] So, since this still has not been settled for everyone, I will try to sum up what we have and do not have, among other things. This debate has centered around the following Pokémon: Diancie, Hoopa, Volcanion, Mega Latios, Mega Latias, two Vivillon forms, one Floette form, and one Plate Arceus. Here is how things have been sorted: Diancie has an article, Mega Latios and Mega Latias have the information on several articles, Vivillon forms have been distributed, Floette is AZ's, Arceus can be transfered to Gen VI, and nothing for Hoopa and Volcanion. So, why not create the articles? Because they have not been [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ghost_(type)&diff=prev&oldid=2141974 officially released yet]. Granted, I am paraphrasing [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] and potentially taking their words out of context. On the opposite side of this [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AEon_duo&diff=2078959&oldid=2078846 is how the Mega Latios/Latias info was given approval.] Again, I am linking to [[User:SnorlaxMonster]] has said in the past and about a different issue that may not apply. I would have recommend asking if Hoopa and Volcanion could be added to the [[List of Pokémon by index number (Generation VI)]], which is the [[Index number]] counterpart to the [[List of items by index number (Generation VI)|items]], [[List of moves|moves]], [[List of locations by index number (Generation VI)|location]], and [[Ability#List of Abilities|ability]] articles. However, the article has not currently be created at this point in time, so I do not believe I can recommend that action. Regardless of not being able to help, I hope that this somehow explains why we are not making that many references to them or their moves. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 03:38, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

I will attempt to make the pages but ill be going on vacation soon.

[[User:AQUAAA|AQUAAA]] ([[User talk:AQUAAA|talk]]) 17:07, 17 December 2014 (UTC)AQUAAA

Oh yeah, Steam Eruption And Hyperspace hole are real moves.

[[User:AQUAAA|AQUAAA]] ([[User talk:AQUAAA|talk]]) 17:09, 17 December 2014 (UTC)AQUAAA

Do anyone have Kana for their species name? --[[User:ShadowCrush|ShadowCrush]] ([[User talk:ShadowCrush|talk]]) 22:55, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

--[[User:AQUAAA|AQUAAA]] ([[User talk:AQUAAA|talk]]) 16:57, 31 January 2015 (UTC) Bulbagarden has a page on all 3, but not the signature moves.

== Editing of [[Headbutt (move)|Headbutt]] ==

Basically, I just went to add that Bibarel is confirmed to learn the move at Lv.18 (no idea about the pre-evo yet, but I trust it's also the same). It seems that I am unable to save edits to that page. Do we know what is causing this? I just edited [[Acupressure (move)|Acupressure]] without a problem a few minutes ago. Meanwhile, I tried the chat room, but it's more interested in a bot trivia game (now over 1,300 questions in!) and the other official channel is - well - dead. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 19:40, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
:I tried to edit it and it didn't go through. Maybe it's the amount of templates on the page? It's the only thing that really sets apart enough from other moves for it to be the only one to be uneditable. I'll see if someone can figure it out. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 20:21, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
::Well, if any of them are complete, some could perhaps be converted to generic tables and left in like that (if they get vandalized, they can easily be restored). That might help with that issue. But then, I wondered why the learnset table was so far down. Clearly trying to include Headbutt as it applies to G/S/C. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 20:41, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
:::Pages with lots of code transcluded to them, such as the code used in the template, exceed the maximum amount of code able to be used on a MediaWiki page. This limit is unable to be changed. The Headbutt page seems to be just before that limit. The page can be saved, it just takes a huge amount of time and a few attempts. But, any longer, and parts of the page will seemingly go missing, starting from the bottom up. We had a similarly large page on Wikisimpsons. We ended up needing to split the page up into several pages as huge tables of information just vanished. That might have to be done here too. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 20:48, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
::::If you'd like, I can take a look at it between assigning moves. I think provided the main page has the same types of data as the rest of the moves, it should be easy to move other data to a secondary page that doesn't need much editing. Also, if I cut the information off the existing one and save, I should have no problem saving less data.
::::With that said, if you'd rather do it later, understood. But it keeps me and others from adding data to it until it's done, hence why I'd like to look at it. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 20:53, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

(Indent reset, any replies to the above can continue there, this is a separate segment.)

I have copied from [[Headbutt (move)|Headbutt]] the data that I think can be removed from the page. What I will suggest is taking this off the page and having it linked separately on the page. This will bring the page data down to a more useable level that saving issues will hopefully be reduced. The current location of the copied data is [[User:CycloneGU/Headbutt|in my userspace]]. I'm open to working on the piece there and then moving it to the article space when it's ready for inclusion as a separate page. Or we can move it immediately and work on it already linked from the main page. What do you folks think? [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 21:03, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
:I think wait for input from admins before anything major is done to the page. Although the only way I can see the page being editable again is by splitting it up in my expert opinion (expert as I've encountered this issue before :P) ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 21:05, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
::This is why I have already copied the data separately to my userspace. That way an admin. can move it to an appropriate title, the data removed from [[Headbutt (move)|Headbutt]], and the link made between the articles. I agree, this issue was encountered six or seven months ago by someone on that talk page, and we can't deal with this over and over. We might even need to reduce the size of some of the lists at the bottom of the page by indicating all Pokémon in the previous list are also on the following list, and just not list them; however, that is a more drastic change I won't explore at this time. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 21:10, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
::I just had a separate afterthought as well (hence the almost immediate new edit, this is not a preview issue). The list of Pokémon learning the move by TM can be included on the second article. It only applies to the second generation (for now) and we can remove it from the main article, again to save space. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 21:12, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
::(Addendum) I have copied the TM information to my userspace. Again, no edits have been made to the main page yet, and I'd like to help work on a separate article regarding Headbutt and the mechanics as used in Generations II and IV in G/S/C/HG/SS (hence why it's in my userspace right now, but I'm open to it being moved to the main space if admins. approve the idea). The obvious alternative is to not be able to edit the main page or have data go missing; this at least preserves the data. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 21:21, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
:::For the record, I think it would be more appropriate to move the lists of Pokemon that can be found via Headbutt. Learnlists should all remain together, but we do have [[Hidden Power calculation|precedent]] for moving lengthy material about how a move works to a separate page rather than keeping it on the same one. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:34, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
::::For the sake of full disclosure, I also [[User talk:Force Fire#Headbutt|brought this up]] with one of the admins. personally. Because Headbutt was only a TM in Generation II (replacing [[Razor Wind (move)|Razor Wind]] but since becoming [[Dragon Claw (move)|Dragon Claw]] in Gen. III, which has not changed since), and was likely made such for the specific reason of allowing players to buy the TM for repeated use teaching Pokémon the move to attack random trees, I have made the recommendation that the TM move data be placed there for that reason. I've provided additional points at the linked location.
::::The TM section alone is 11,000 bytes of data, and with the page causing problems due to being so large, any space we can get would be useful at this point. If it is deemed after staff discussion that it should stay there, I would recommend putting the data on a page by itself and transcluding the data to the page. This could technically be done on both pages, in fact, since the data specifically applies to that game where the mechanic occurs. That way, the string putting the data on one or both pages is a simple string, and the data is its own page.
::::For examples of how transclusion works, head over to Wikipedia and see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013%E2%80%9314_NHL_season 2013-14 NHL season], specifically under Standings. All four charts there are located on other pages and edited on those pages due to the daily updating on each compared to the article itself. This way, people editing the standings and people editing the rest of the article aren't running into constant edit conflicts. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 06:04, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
::::UPDATE: Again, for full disclosure, see [[User:CycloneGU/Headbutt]] for how I'm proposing to reclaim the space on the page. I don't know if this is ideal for the staff, but the data I am recommending to transclude in this case should never have to be edited again, so the data page can be locked and the importing line in the article commented above and below warning not to modify that line. Of course, the data page would be moved first, hence why it's still a proposal. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 06:31, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::I've split the wild Pokémon only off into [[Headbutt (move)/Wild Pokémon]], as this needed to be fixed swiftly, since it was preventing editing of the page altogether. If you think the scope of the subpage should be different, please bring that up on its talk page. I'm not even that sure we need these lists (for HGSS, since Pokémon encountered are dependent on area rather than what category of area it is), but they can't stay on the Headbutt page. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:02, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::I still can't save edits to a segment of the page. I still propose, since the TM data should never be edited, doing the same thing there by moving the page in my usersdpace and linking that there. Unless it's just a case of the cache needing to be dumped, in which case it may work after that's done. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 07:07, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::It certainly can be edited now, because my edit moving the wild Pokémon lists off the page went through. And if the issue is being unable to save a specific section, it is unlikely to be due to the number of templates; in fact, IIRC you can still edit sections of a page that is too big to save. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:16, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::::As for keeping the TM list on the page, it has less to do with editing than it does with reading. A major reason people go to move pages is to see what can learn it (I would assume), and I don't want to split up learnlists across multiple pages. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:18, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::Re TMs: did you see the page I created in my userspace? No, that's not the layout I propose, but I basically copied the TM data as it currently appears to a separate document, which allows the header to still be edited (I grabbed after the header up to the next header, for the next table).
:::::::::Re editing Headbutt, it FINALLY went through. so I'm satisfied with it now. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 07:20, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

== Wild Hold Items ==

I've been a member for about ten minutes and I probably have no chance of anyone seeing this... but how about a page that states the Pokemon that hold certain items in the wild including the item and the hold percentage. Possibly even moves or abilities that change the item's effect or position like unnerve or thief. I'm not sure but I think it'd be helpful. {{unsigned|8BitRevenge}}
:Actually, this is already done. On sections for items, if a wild Pokemon holds it in the wild in a game it is found in, the game section for that item lists it. The same for a Pokemon's page (under the "Held items" section), although it is only on the Pokemon's page that the percentage for that item is listed.--[[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 03:37, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
::That list is [[List of Pokémon by wild held item|here]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:41, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

== Dream World Moves ==

This deserves attention. Dream World no longer needs its own section because, well, the Dream World is closing (at least in terms of naptime and usefulness) as of December 14. Additionally, we are updating Pokémon pages for Gen. VI now; since Dream World isn't there, we should not include it as a section.

With that taken into account, do we or do we not have a place to list moves that are learnable in an earlier generation? If so, all Dream World moves should be moved to that location. We can also update those lists to take into account moves learned via Move Tutor in prior generations, or learned via TMs that no longer exist. If a move can be learned by breeding, we don't even need to list the Dream World move; see [[Pawniard (Pokémon)|Pawniard]], whose moves [[Psycho Cut (move)|Psycho Cut]] and [[Sucker Punch (move)|Sucker Punch]] are learnable via breeding. However, in the case of [[Butterfree (Pokémon)|Butterfree]], we have [[Air Cutter (move)|Air Cutter]] and [[Roost (move)|Roost]] unlearnable via breeding since Caterpie cannot learn any moves through breeding itself, and thus those moves belong in that section on Butterfree's page (which I've started updating except for the DW section).

Thoughts? [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 18:05, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
:They're already on the "Generation V learnset" subpages (here's {{DL|Butterfree (Pokémon)/Generation V learnset|Dream World moves|Butterfree's}}, for example). I think that's fine, isn't it? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:22, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

::That's my opinion as well. The question is whether other editors want to preserve them in some way.
::I'm actually going to remove it from Butterfree now pending opinion on this. I'm about to pull Butterfree out to level up. The only thing I can't fully check yet is the TM list, but I can start that. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 18:48, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

== Time travel and Time Travel ==

There are two pages with the same name differentiated by a capital letter: [[Time travel]] and [[Time Travel]]. Both have links to the other page (I added the one to Time Travel), but this is still quite confusing to have it like this. Wouldn't it make more sense to have Time Travel renamed Time Travel (e-reader application)? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] ([[User talk:Jmvb|talk]]) 23:31, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
:I coudn't agree more!--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 23:48, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

== I have a question... ==

I've noticed that the facility trainers (in the Battle Frontier, Maison, Contests, etc.) have the same name/team/quotes. Since these trainers are recurring, is it important that we put them on the page for their respective locations? Just wondering. -- [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 23:33, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
:I don't think they have the same teams (at least for battle facilities; contests might). There is a pool of Pokémon that each Trainer has their Pokémon randomly selected from. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:21, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

== Disambiguation pages format ==

I am pretty strongly of the opinion that most of the disambiguation pages are currently formatted badly. The numeric pages like [[046]] appear to have "good" formats, with the "disambiguated" links at the beginning; but it appears that just about all other disambiguation pages, like [[Aaron]], use a bad format, with the disambiguated links only appearing ''after'' the description.

It's hard to provide a concrete reason why this is "bad". One possible rationale is that, in many cases, an article title alone can be enough to know which article you want, and any description appearing before that link just gets in the way; by contrast, anyone who ''needs'' that description text is not at all inconvenienced if it appears after the link. Another possible rationale is simply that, without the disambiguated article title at the beginning, I simply have nothing concrete to link the description with initially, so it's just a little abstract...

It may be worth noting that Wikipedia's manual of style for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Disambiguation_pages#Individual_entries disambiguation pages] specifies that the (relevant) link should come first.

Mostly, though, I just ''know'' that, for example, the Metronome disambiguation page works better like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Metronome&oldid=2032134 this] than like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Metronome&oldid=2032138 this]. It always irritates me seeing the latter and having to navigate it...

Do others agree that the "disambiguated" links should be written first? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:29, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
:Agreed, and it is an involved project, but would improve Bulbapedia's consistency and navigation. - [[User:Poikins|'''poi''']][[User talk:Poikins|'''kins''']] 21:55, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

== Retrieving Information Question ==

While I was looking around on the site for something to improve, I discovered that Bulbapedia doesn't have a page for Style in Lumiose City. I would like to make this page, and I found another page on Serebii that seems to help. However, I don't want to just copy information. How should I handle this? [http://www.serebii.net/xy/lumiosestyle.shtml Here's the page]
Also, should I just add this information to the page [[Lumiose City]] instead, once I get the information?
[[User:Lnwz|Lnwz]] ([[User talk:Lnwz|talk]]) 00:44, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

== Proof requirement for hatch times? ==

Hello my friends!
Noah speaking, I was planning on doing some research into the hatch times of certain unconfirmed Pokemon. What form of proof would you require? I could film it and add a footnote, or would you prefer multiple tests/people working on the same egg?

[[User:Polishpeo12|Polishpeo12]] ([[User talk:Polishpeo12|talk]]) 18:54, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
:Unless there is some reason to doubt a hatch time you write down, then I don't think you need a source. --[[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 23:16, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

== Skrelp ==
Hello. In Skrelp's page, I realized that in the trivia section, it says that Skrelp was the only Poison type introduced in the 6th generation. I think that's untrue. Wouldn't Mega Venusaur and Mega Gengar count as new Poison-type Pokémon? ([[User:Hoogachakka|Hoogachakka]] ([[User talk:Hoogachakka|talk]]) 02:00, 28 December 2013 (UTC))
:No, they wouldn't. Mega Evolutions are not new species.--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:29, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

== Overworld Sprites ==

Hello! I noticed a problem with the top of a Kalos Pokémon page, where it says which Pokémon comes previously and next in the National Dex. It doesn't have the sprites of the Pokémon. I can easily retrieve the pictures, so how do I edit those?
{{unsigned|Hoogachakka}}
:You upload images through the Bulbagarden Archives, though you'll want to contact an administrator because no one has been able to provide the sprites without stealing them or get permission from other sites. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 02:17, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
:I was going to take a picture of the sprite in the game, then upload it to my computer, then photoshop it to be just the sprite. That way, it's my photo. ([[User:Hoogachakka|Hoogachakka]] ([[User talk:Hoogachakka|talk]]) 02:37, 28 December 2013 (UTC))
::You mean, take a photo with a camera? That's going to produce a very low-quality image. We need pixel-for-pixel faithfulness to the games, so a capture card is the only option. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:49, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
:::There are a few images on the archives that are recreated images without taking it directly from the games, but I do not believe that the practice is recommended. I would contact an administrator on the archives if this would be acceptable. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 04:03, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

== Regarding APNG images ==

In using Bulbapedia as a reference for various Moves, I noticed you employ the APNG format, however many of the animations are unnecessarily large. I've personally spent quite a bit of time building and deconstructing APNGs in order to understand the format. I thought I'd start my contributions by providing and animated version of [[a:File:Reflect_III.png|Reflect]]. Before I upload it though, I'd like to confirm my suspicion that the existing animations are intentionally split with the first frame being midway through the loop so that APNG unaware browsers will still display a useful illustration of the move. --[[User:GARY-DOS|GARY-DOS]] ([[User talk:GARY-DOS|talk]]) 06:21, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
:Yes, it is intentional to have the unanimated frame be still a useful image. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:05, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

== Version Exclusive Trainers ==

I apologize if this is not the correct area to talk about this. The character box for trainers is made up of several templates, which means there is not a core talk page for this to go to. After the debacle of exploring Mt. Mortar in Gold (gen II) with every possible resource online and through game play, I have come to the realization, unless I still have not explored well enough, that three out of the four trainers are more than likely version exclusive to Crystal version. That being said, there is not an area in the trainer box to show if certain trainers are version exclusive. Due to this, articles with trainer boxes which do not state the specifics of certain version exclusive trainers are misleading, which should be fixed. That being said, I do not know exactly how many trainers are version exclusive, and I am aware that determining that would take a lot of time. One may say that due to it costing a lot of time to calculate the above, as well as it being so specific, that it doesn't matter. I wish to know the opinions of others to see if this is necessary...not just for my sake, but for any other viewer using Bulbapedia for information about locations and the trainers within them. [[User:Qj|Qj]] ([[User talk:Qj|talk]]) 02:30, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
:(Now that you mention it, I'm pretty sure I remember my old VersusBooks guide from my childhood mentioning that the Trainers were new to Crystal. So I'm pretty sure you're right.) I wouldn't think it's necessary to change the templates. I think we should just be able to use separate section headers (i.e., it's "Generation II" now, so we could add a subheader under it for "Crystal only"). As for the time necessary, that may be an obstacle, but no logistical obstacle should be considered large enough to make us not even ''try'' to compile correct information. If we try and fail, sure, and the topic will almost certainly attract very little attention, but giving up before the start seems defeatist. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:17, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
::Just so you know, a good amount of pages already have version exclusives separated (for example: {{rt|115|Hoenn}} has the trainers separated between Ruby and Sapphire (where all the trainers are pretty much the same) and Emerald, with trainers who have differences being marked off. It's the same with Generation IV Routes like ({{rt|212|Sinnoh}})). If any Routes aren't marked with version exclusive trainers it was either done by someone with one game assuming they all have the same trainers, or don't have version exclusives. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 05:46, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Thank you for the clarification on the issue. I would have seen the separation, but the articles I visited had none of the separation you talked about above. I hope that editors willing to make edits to trainer boxes in the future will first make sure their information spans through all games of the generation in question, as to prevent future misunderstandings for all future viewers. (StrategyWiki, in general, is not as accurate compared to this site due to the large community.) [[User:Qj|Qj]] ([[User talk:Qj|talk]]) 06:31, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

==Mega Eon Duo are now Available to the Public through Cheat Codes==
A hacking company has released cheat codes to get the Mega Eon Duo, and the Internet is now roaming with players using these Mega Evolutions. Does this mean it's now okay to acknowledge the existence of the Mega Eon Duo and add them to the pages around Bulbapedia? [[User:Nintendocan|Nintendocan]] ([[User talk:Nintendocan|talk]]) 03:02, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
:were not allowed to aknowledge them until Nintendo actually reveals them apparently. --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 03:43, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
::It's more along the lines of "We don't like using stuff that we didn't find ourselves if Nintendo hasn't revealed it". We'll get pages once Bulbapedia contributors get the cheating device required to obtain them--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 06:04, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
:::We currently do mention them: check the [[Mega Stone]], [[Mega Evolution]], [[Latios (Pokémon)]], [[Latias (Pokémon)]], etc. pages. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:04, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
::::Yeah, that comment was made a while before that round of edits.----[[User:BigBadBatter|Big]][[User talk:BigBadBatter|Bad]][[User:BigBadBatter|Batter]] 22:04, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
:::::Shouldn't we have an image of them?--<sc>✓[[User:PikaTepig999|Pika]][[User talk:PikaTepig999|Tepig]][[Special:Contributions/Pikatepig999|999]]✓</sc> 09:58, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

== Blaziken Mask/Meyer ==

All right, so the episode that reveals the fact that these are the same character just so happened to air this morning. There is no more spoiler for North America, only for those who haven't seen the episode. As I don't believe it's natural to try to prevent spoilers five years down the line (hey, I only started watching the anime a couple of years or so ago), I think it's time that the two pages be merged. This has been brought up at {{red link|Talk:Blaziken Mask|Blaziken Mask's talk page}} and eventually [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ABlaziken_Mask&diff=2035685&oldid=2031839 confirmed] by [[User:Blazingfist|Blazingfist]] there, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Blaziken_Mask&diff=next&oldid=2035685 another opinion given for a merge], and even [[Talk:Meyer|Meyer's talk page]] was [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Meyer&oldid=2075735 created] with a note that it should be the new home of the [[Blaziken Mask]] information.

I first commented on [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMeyer&diff=2090589&oldid=2089765 March 17] (actually evening of March 16 for me) also noting we need to make the move within a week. No response followed until [[User:Mkbw50|Mkbw50]] suggested [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMeyer&diff=2092108&oldid=2090589 continuing use of spoiler tags] on the merged page; I disagree with this myself since it's known they are the same character now. Blazingfist and myself have since [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMeyer&diff=2092827&oldid=2092108 commented further], but I decided it was time to bring more visibility to this and get more editor opinion on this.

So...it's time to merge [[Meyer]] and [[Blaziken Mask]]. They are the same character; continuing to keep the pages separated implies they are different people, which would not be prudent for us to do. Let's discuss a merge. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 15:25, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

== Event-exclusive moves ==

Is there a list or category of them? If so, can someone direct me to it? If not, should it be created? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 02:14, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
:I don't think one exists. A category sounds like a good idea. As far as I know, the event-exclusive moves we currently have pages for are {{m|V-create}}, {{m|Hold Back}}, {{m|Celebrate}} and {{m|Happy Hour}}. Plus, some of the moves we know exist but don't know how to get in-game might be event-exclusive. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:56, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

== Prior to Generation (#) ==

Just notice that in Pokedex entries, "This Pokemon is unavailable prior to Generation (#)" is written. But as for sprites, all the genrations are listed, and then, "This Pokemon did not appear in Gen (#)" is written. Can't we just write "This Pokemon did not appear prior to Gen (#)"? [[User:TrainerTantei|TrainerTantei]] ([[User talk:TrainerTantei|talk]]) 07:52, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
:I agree! [[User:Player3.25|By player 3.25]] ([[User talk:Player3.25|talk]]) 19:21, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

== Adding information to the anime episodes ==
I'm slightly new to Bulbapedia, and would like to contribute to the episode guide and the pages containing the episode information of the XY series by adding some broadcasting information, but the thing is I don't know how to add that info and would like to know. [[User:Jamie64326|Jamie64326]] ([[User talk:Jamie64326|talk]]) 13:50, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

== Vertical line thing ==

I can't figure out how to get the following line thing: | (I had to copy and paste that). Does anyone know how? [[User:Player3.25|Player3.25]] ([[User talk:Player3.25|talk]]) 20:21, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
:On standard American keyboards, it's the key above '''Enter''' ('''Return''') on the same key as the '''Backslash''' ( '''\''' ), but typed by holding '''Shift'''. On other keyboards I do not know the answer. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 21:06, 6/21/2014 (UTC)

That's OK, but I'm from Ireland. [[User:Player3.25|Player3.25]] ([[User talk:Player3.25|talk]]) 07:45, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
:Look for the key with "|\" on. Shift click that. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 07:49, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Which row is it in? I can't find that key anywhere on the keyboard. [[User:Player3.25|By Player3.25]] ([[User talk:Player3.25|talk]]) 16:04, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

:Apparently it should be [http://www.chrismary.com/languagekeyboard/layouts/irish_keyboard.jpg next to the Z], but there's a note here saying it's not on all keyboards. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 16:19, 6/22/2014 (UTC)

Oh. It's on my keyboard, but on the actual key, it shows 2 short vertical lines with a gap between them, but when I typed it, this came up: | Thanks! [[User:Player3.25|By Player3.25]] ([[User talk:Player3.25|talk]]) 18:05, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

== How do I know when I can create pages? ==

I know you can create pages when you have edited enough articles, but how do I know when I've done that? Does it alert me or something? [[User:Player3.25|The person]] ([[User talk:Player3.25|talk]]) 18:41, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
:No alert, you can just be able to create your user page. --[[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 21:22, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

== How do you replace images? ==

Does anybody know how to replace the images in the boxes with captons on pages? [[User:Player3.25|By player 3.25]] ([[User talk:Player3.25|talk]]) 16:53, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
:We have [[:a:Main Page|separate server]] for files. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 16:58, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
??? [[User:Player3.25|By player 3.25]] ([[User talk:Player3.25|talk]]) 18:00, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
:You need to go there and upload new pictures in order to replace them here. Also, please make sure to use colons (<nowiki>:</nowiki>) when responding to posts in order to indent your message. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 18:12, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

== How do you create info boxes? ==

How do you create information boxes? [[User:Player3.25|By player 3.25]] ([[User talk:Player3.25|talk]]) 19:18, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

== Type percentages ==

I noticed that the percentages on the type pages are wrong, so I made [[User:TheSilentHero/Type Count|this]] page with the correct numbers. Would it be all right to change this in the type pages? [[User:TheSilentHero|TheSilentHero]] ([[User talk:TheSilentHero|talk]]) 09:37, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

==Demographics==
I'm getting the feeling that some of the populations are incorrect. For one, Safari Zone Gate seems to be way lower than it should be, and the attendants in the Pokemon Centre dont seem to be counted at all. Yet, The Talk Page of both Black City and White Forest has someone saying they should be. A lot of people seem to be unclear on this scince Ive seen comments of people on other Talk pages not being sure. I'm just gonna go ahead with (slowly but surely) recounting Johto, Kanto and possibly Sinnoh's cities and towns, including Pokemon Centre's Marts, and Gates. I'm ignoring Hoenn because that will change in OR/AS anyways and ignoring Unova because I dont know what Castelia City/Nimbasa City people were counted and which werent. And I dont have X/Y yet so cant count Kalos. Also, the older regions have been here a while, so checking stuff for them might have slowed down too. If anyone wants to help, or comment on this, then go on ahead. Just posting this here since I think a heads up would be necessary. [[User:Smear-Gel|Smear-Gel]] ([[User talk:Smear-Gel|talk]]) 22:13, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

== Hoopa page ==

First thing's first: Will we use my [[User:Phiraptor28/Hoopa_(Pokémon)|Hoopa page]] as the official page? *not bragging*
Secondly: And if we're gonna use the page, we have two options: 1. Wait for Hoopa's Forme Differences to be released before using the page; and 2. Edit the Hoopa page to hide the info about Hoopa Unbound. Thanks for reading! Sorry, I sometimes get a little too excited. '''Too excited''' :) [[User:Phiraptor28|Phiraptor28]] ([[User talk:Phiraptor28|talk]]) 13:55, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

== Hatching Undiscovered Eggs ==

How come the Pokémon in the Undiscovered Egg Group have egg cycles listed? Surely this is pointless information, right? ''' ''Scribbl'' ''' 13:08, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:It's just game data, so while it may not actually be used, it is still there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:14, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

==Let's Hold Hands==
Hi! Can a staff member remove Let's Hold Hands (a Korean ending theme) from the wanted pages list? I've made the page but under a slightly different translated name :)--[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(Talk)''']] 06:30, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

== Wonder mail ==

I would put wonder mail codes in items and pokemon for [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]] but I do not know how to put down the codes. How would I do this? [[User:Musicjax|Musicjax]] ([[User talk:Musicjax|talk]]) 00:27, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
:The only Wonder Mail codes that are appropriate for Bulbapedia are those that are required to unlock otherwise unaccessible content, such as Wonder Mail-exclusive events and version-exclusive Pokémon. The appropriate articles for such Wonder Mail codes should already contain a code that will unlock the content ([[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team#Wonder Mail codes|Example]]). - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 02:38, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

== Use of files from built-in screenshot functions ==

I wish to add to the pages pertaining to locations in Pokémon Rumble World. Is it appropriate to use images taken with Rumble World's "Take Photos" feature, or should I leave it to someone with a capture card? [[User:Spongeabc5|Spongeabc5]] ([[User talk:Spongeabc5|talk]]) 01:28, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
:I don't play Pokémon rumble world (my charger broke for my 3ds) but, if the take photos feature takes screenshots then this would probably be ok. [[User:Musicjax|Musicjax]] 23:13, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
::If you are taking shots in-stage and posting, say, the entire top image as an example of gameplay in a stage, that is perfectly fine. The concern is for certain types of images; I'm trying to milk decent images out of the lower-screen JPGs that would, as JPGs, not be sufficient quality (I do re-save them as PNG), but in-game screens are perfectly viable and are even [[Gold Plateau|already in use]]. Ideally, it'd be nice to have at least one generic shot and one boss battle - maybe including a legendary periodically, but not always - in each area. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 23:26, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

== Time Space Axis M12 ==

I have one ready in my [[User:Upratik 12/Time-Space Axis (M12)|user space]] ready, if it's enough i would like it to move it to the mainspace --[[User:Upratik 12|Pratik_12]] '' [[User talk:Upratik 12|Talk]]'' 20:49, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

== Filter Problem ==

I'm having an issue where, on a lot of pages, pressing the move-sorting filter will arrange the moves in an order for a different category. Instead of categorising moves by Type after pressing the arrow next to the "Type" heading, for example, the moves will be sorted in order of highest to lowest Accuracy. On the pages where this happens, it always categorises moves according to the fourth filter to the right. Pressing "Category" should order moves depending on whether they're physical, special, or status, but instead it goes in PP order. The "Power" filter sorts moves into an order depending on their Contest category, the "Accuracy" filter orders them by their Contest Appeal, and the "PP" filter orders them by their Contest Jamming level. This could just be my computer spazzing out, but it happens for me on a lot of pages. Is this a site bug? ''' ''Scribbl'' ''' 09:40, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
:This [[Talk:Bulbasaur (Pokémon)#Correction|has been noticed]]. In short, the problem is that most of the tables do actually work, but if the tutor table is on the same page as anything else, somehow it seems to screw up the sorting of the other tables. It's not an easy thing to troubleshoot. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:31, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

== Regarding the new Manaphy event ==

I tried to translate part of the site with the Water Tribe Manaphy, and got this. Some of it may be wrong.
Is this useful at all?

Ribbon: 위시리본 (Wish Ribbon).
Ball: 프레셔스볼 (Precious Ball).
Fathers (possibly OT): 물의일족 (Water Clan).
Item: 없음 (None.)
{{unsigned|Keeby358}}
:We already have this information listed here: {{DL|List of Korean region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI|Water Tribe Manaphy}}. Thanks for the help though. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:57, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

== Hoopa page ==

Hoopa's page is protected and hence I cannot make this change to the article. The change is that on the page it is written that the prison bottle has not been officialy revealed, which is wrong. Also it is written that Hoopa Unbound is also not officially revealed. {{unsigned|PokemonCool|21:54, 13 July 2015}}
:You should bring it up on the {{talk|relevant talk page|Hoopa (Pokémon)}}. Also, sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. -''[[User:Sher-e-Bengal|Sher]]-e-[[User_talk:Sher-e-Bengal|Bengal]]''- 16:31, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

== How do i translate an entire page? ==

hey, im pretty new here, and i want to know,
how do i translate an entire page?
i really want to do this, and i will be more than happy if someone will answer me.
have a good day :) {{unsigned|Nunutrxh}}
:Our [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis]] partners have pages about topics written by native speakers of that language; they have pages in German, French, Italian, Japanese, Polish, and Chinese. If you need a Bulbapedia page translated into another language, then you'll have to use Google Translate or another online translation service. Also, in the future, please sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 00:30, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
::pherhaps you missed understood me, i dont want a to see a translated page, i want to translate it by myself. is thtat an option? sorry if the way i wrote it sounds rude, i dont know how to write proper english letters and such <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. 11:43, 29 July 2015 (UTC) {{unsigned|Nunutrxh}}
:::Yeah, you've got to remove the nowiki tags for your signature to work correctly. Just use the four ~. As for your question, you may translate it depending on what you want to do with the translated stuff. -''[[User:Sher-e-Bengal|Sher]]-e-[[User_talk:Sher-e-Bengal|Bengal]]''- 11:57, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
::::If you click the "edit" button at the top of a page, you can see the source code of a page. You can translate that text into whichever language you like. If you plan on rehosting it somewhere else, as a derivative work, it is subject to the CC BY-NC-SA 2.5 license, which requires you to [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/ follow the license terms]. If you're interested in translating pages into your language for Bulbapedia itself, I unfortunately don't believe that we are in need of that content at the moment. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 12:30, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

== Contest conditions ==

I need to add Oras moves and effects for contest spectaculars. However, for the addition, the chart needs a new column. How do you add one? I am a new user. Please help. Sincerely, Tripplekittys. {{unsigned|Tripplekittys}}
:I'm sorry to tell you this, but right now you can't add new info to that template. There's a draft for a new one [[User:Kogoro/Movelist/contest|over here]], but I don't know when it will be moved to the mainspace, maybe when we get remakes of ''Pokémon Diamond'' and ''Pearl'' so the shitload of moves in need of Contest data will be even bigger and the chart even messier. On another note, please sign your posts with four tildes (~) in the future. Thank you! --[[User:Mikuri|'''Mi''']][[User talk: Mikuri|'''ku''']][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|'''ri''']] 00:31, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
::Hello, I had just made an account to help complete the Contest condition move tables. Looking at this discussion makes this seem unlikely to happen, but I figured I would ask to see if there has been any progress since the original post? And if not, is there anyway that I can get a hold of that linked template and attempt to work on overhauling the whole section? Thank you in advance for the help. [[User:LiteRed|liteRed]] ([[User talk:LiteRed|talk]]) 04:48, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

== Linking to items with their own articles on "List of items" pages. ==

On the various "List of items" pages, is there a way to properly link to the articles of items that have their own articles?

'''Example''': In the entry for [[Destiny Knot]], the section has the small words "Red Thread", which in turn has a link to a Wikipedia page about the "Red String of Fate". If "Destiny Knot" had its own Bulbapedia article, would there be a way to make the bold-faced words "Destiny Knot" point to such an article? It appears that I am having link/template difficulties.. Thanks in advance for the help. [[User:Fenyx4|Fenyx4]] ([[User talk:Fenyx4|talk]]) 04:04, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

== what can I do in there? ==

Hey guys i'm a user in this wiki.but i don't know what can i do in there,before BLUBAPEDIA wiki i have worked at 52poke wiki,so what should i do?Although my English is bad but please tell me what can i do,thankyou.--[[User:52poke yellow|'''₥Yellow''']] '''¤from52poke〆''' [[User talk:52poke yellow|'''don't''''''fight''']] 13:40, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

== Change "Start" and "--" for level up move levels ==

We should change all occurrences of "Start" in Pokemon level up tables (like [[Bulbasaur (Pokémon)#By leveling up]]) and "--" in move level up tables (like [[Tackle (move)#By leveling up]]) to "1". Certainly for Generations IV+ at least; maybe for Generations I-III as well.

;WHY<nowiki>:</nowiki>

I bred myself a {{p|Pumpkaboo}} (so, it knew its three "Start" moves) and then traded it to myself through the GTS at level 1 and it evolved into {{p|Gourgeist}}. And after it evolved, it learned {{m|Explosion}} and then was asked to learn {{m|Phantom Force}}. Again: ''at level 1''.

Gourgeist's [[Gourgeist (Pokémon)#By leveling up|level up table]] says "Start" for Explosion and Phantom Force (and etc). (Likewise, in Explosion's [[Explosion (move)#By leveling up|level up table]], Gourgeist's row says "--, 75".) But if I can learn those moves at level 1, that field should ''say'' "1". If I can learn it at level 1, there's no good reason to say "Start" or "--" instead. If it ''doesn't'' say "1", that implies I ''can't'' learn it at level 1.

I also tested this same thing with a bred level 1 {{p|Slowpoke}} in Gen IV. I traded one each to Pearl and Platinum holding King's Rocks, and after they evolved, they learned {{m|Power Gem}} ([[Slowking (Pokémon)/Generation IV learnset|only in Platinum]]) and {{m|Hidden Power}}. So: again, these moves are plainly at level "1"; not "Start".

This isn't possible to test directly in Generations I-III, since none of those games [[Experience#Experience underflow glitch|have wild Pokemon at lv 1]] (and bred Pokemon start at level 5 instead of 1). I may (''maybe'') try to use some cheat codes/ROM editing to test the behavior, though.

;USE "1"

So. As I said at the start, we should change all "Start" and "--" to "1" for at least Generations IV-VI. I suppose it's kind of a moot point whether we also do that for Generations I-III since, as I also said, there's no natural way to evolve any Pokemon at level 1 in those games. But, if the game does treat those "Start" moves as learnable at level 1, then I tend to think we should use accurate terminology...

Of course, this is a big project. I'm sure staff want to at least approve it first. I don't know, maybe staff would even want to do it entirely by themselves. But, as much change as it may require, this is '''''absolutely''''' something that needs to be done. We cannot call "Start" and "--" 'good enough'. They are inaccurate, misleading; they're not even ''necessary'' if "1" is true. And it is. This needs to be changed.

[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:38, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

: (WHY) Alright, this might be a bit of rambling, but this is what I have. While still being part speculation at this time, I believe the original intent was possibly to the term "Starting Moves" being shortened to the word "Start." The [[Move Reminder]] article mentions that one of the reason for wanting to learn a move with the Move Reminder is if "the species (has) more than four starting moves" and that Healing Wish is "one of Lopunny's starting moves." It seems that a move that can be learned at Level 1 is considered a "Start Move," whether it is an unofficial term, an official term, or a fan term. More evidence for this can be found with [[User:Mazion]] who [[Special:Contributions/Mazion|use the wording "starter move" several times]] and an issue involving [[Seaking_(Pokémon)#Trivia|Seaking "learning" Supersonic twice in Gen II]]. Additionally, [[Talk:Generation_IV_hybrid#.22Start.22_and_.22Level_1.22_moves...|the talk page for the Generation IV hybrids shows a conversation that associates "Start" with Level 1]]. Oddly, moves themselves never use the term "Start" and instead use "--" like on [[Reflect Type (move)]].
: (USE 1) I will note that since at least sometime around Generation IV, the template started to use the following note: 'A level of "Start" indicates a move that will be known by a Bulbasaur obtained at level 1 in Generation VI.' The reasoning behind having the note is speculation at this time, though it might have to do with attempting to explain what "Start" means. More, I would like to if the rambling I made earlier is the reasoning behind just not using Level 1. Either way, I am currently content with consistency in all pages.
: (I will note that Tiddlywinks and myself [[User talk:Super goku#Slowking Gen IV|had a small discussion on my talk page]] that highlights a few points as well. Basically on what [[Prima Games]] and Nintendo used in their Strategy guides and {{bp|Project Pokédex}}.)
:--[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 03:48, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
::The discussion about the Gen IV hybrids seems much too specialized to be relevant (apparently they ''"level up to Level 1 twice"'').
::As far as the note that appeared around Gen IV, it's far from perfect in a couple ways. For one, the wording "obtained" doesn't entirely sound like it would apply to a Pokemon that evolved (like by trade or evo stone). And then, that note is just so very easy to miss or else forget. And at the same time: there's still just no need—at all—to use "Start" if "1" is true (in the process of leveling up/evolving at least). If "1" is true, "Start" is not in any way better than "1". [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:21, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
:::According to {{u|Kogoro}}, changing "Start" and "--" to "1" has previously been approved due to being listed as level 1 in ''[[Pokémon X & Pokémon Y: The Official Kalos Region Guidebook]]''. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 04:31, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
::::Meaning: this is something it's okay for average users to start fixing anywhere it's currently "Start" or "--"? (Not: staff have been intending to get to it, or something.)
::::Also: on any page, even all the way back to Gen I? (I still don't know how Gen I-III act.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:38, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
:::::I am going to be a bit bold and suggest that Gen III should follow due to the FRLG Strategy guide. Otherwise, I would just suggest consistency with all Learnsets. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 05:19, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
::::::Bump.
::::::(I don't mean this to sound like some sort of "threat", but:) I suppose if there's no answer, I can just go ahead and try editing a number of pages and just see like that if staff minds. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:11, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
:::::::Kogoro has given approval to change "--" or "Start" to "1". --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 01:22, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
::::::::Based on The Official Kalos Guidebook mentioned above. Tiddlywinks wants staff approval that any user can make the changes and that it goes back to Generation I learnsets as well. Personally, I would like some clarification as well. (Especially since we do sometimes based specific styles on specific Generations.) --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 03:41, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::Guys. Kogoro said yes. Meaning yes, you may change "Start" or "--" to "1" on '''all''' learnsets, regardless of generation. We want to be consistent here, so all of them should have "1".--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:48, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

== CAPTCHA won't display ==

I'm a new user and I was able to sign up only because of the mobile view option since the desktop view wouldn't display the CAPTCHA. Now that I'm signed up, I can't edit pages with links because doing so requires a CAPTCHA and it still doesn't display. I'm using Chrome. [[User:AmoralCreed|AmoralCreed]] ([[User talk:AmoralCreed|talk]]) 04:38, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
: I'm also a new user, and I had a similar problem. Then Captcha showed up at the bottom of the "sign in" page and wouldn't accept my entries until (3-4 tries later), it finally displayed in the correct spot. (Also using Chrome, because it tends to run Bulbapedia with fewer hiccups than my IE 11.) [[User:Cybertronian|Cybertronian]] ([[User talk:Cybertronian|talk]]) 04:29, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
:: I had the same problem while signing up, so this is still an issue. However, in my case it might have been due to my NoScript plugin. [[User:Sandrew26|Sandrew26]] ([[User talk:Sandrew26|talk]]) 14:24, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
:: After trying to add external links to a page, the captcha requirement appeared again. Once again, it first appeared at the very bottom of the page, and entering the correct numbers had no effect. The page refreshed and again asked for a captcha, but this time the box was in what I assume was the correct location near the top of the page, and this time entering the numbers worked. I don't have any scripts blocked (noscript shows only bulbagarden.net), and ghostery isn't blocking it, either. I'd upload a picture to show you, but bulbapedia won't let me? I'm on firefox 46.0.01 --[[User:Sandrew26|Sandrew26]] ([[User talk:Sandrew26|talk]]) 13:54, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

== What is the process for updating Game Sprite PNGs/images? ==

I've been using Bulbapedia to help me out as I play with the 3rd Generation Pokémon games (in my case: Sapphire, LeafGreen, FireRed, and Emerald). Recently, I decided to save some of the game sprites and I noticed that the R/S sprites for Jynx weren't consistent with one another. (R/S Normal Jynx had miscolored sprites and noticeable blank spots, mostly in the hands, compared the R/S Shiny Jynx.) Using Paint Shop Pro 9.01, I touched up the sprite, and kept the new image limited to the 15 (plus 1 transparent) colors used on the original image. This way, if someone were to ''manually'' change the palette colors to those of Shiny Jynx (after saving the PNG to their own computer, of course), they would now look indistinguishable. I then joined Bulbapedia so that I could submit my update for review.
That being said, what is the process for submitting a ''new'' image to be reviewed for possible replacement of an ''earlier'' submitted image? [[User:Cybertronian|Cybertronian]] ([[User talk:Cybertronian|talk]]) 04:45, 18 February 2016 (UTC).

== Gen1 sprite order on species pages ==

Is there any particular reason that the Gen1 species pages show the JBlue/Red/Blue sprites first, then Yellow, then Red/Green? Sprites from all other generations are listed by release order, with the "Red" of each pair when they don't use the same sprites. To keep things consistent, (and to easier display how they were changed over time), shouldn't they be ordered as Red/Green, JBlue/Red/Blue, Yellow? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] ([[User talk:FortMax|talk]]) 01:19, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
:We're an English wiki. English content is our primary concern. That said, Japanese content may be significant as well, which would be why we do include the different R/G sprites; but it's firmly a secondary concern compared to the releases that most English-speakers will actually know.
:And it's not really relevant that everything else is listed in release order, when everything else didn't have the same divergence between what was released in Japanese and what was released in English. That inherently breaks down any such comparison. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:35, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
:As Tiddlywinks said, English content has priority. I don't think it'd hurt if the order were changed to place RG first though. Also, if I may, Red and Blue, from an official standpoint, are nothing more than the Western releases of the Japanese Red, Green, and Blue (Blue provides the engine, Red and Green the version-exclusive content). We really don't need the game articles split into RGB and RB as this distinction is more of a habit than anything else, not to mention that the relevant changes can be explained in detail on their respective articles (e.g.: [[in-game trade]]). But this is just my 2¢ and that's a topic for another date, I guess. [[User:SatoMew2|SatoMew2]] ([[User talk:SatoMew2|talk]]) 01:58, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

== Question about updating images. ==

I've noticed many move pages missing Gen VI images, my question is how you take a picture of your Gen VI game as though it was a computer screenshot?
[[User:Sporedragon|Sporedragon]] ([[User talk:Sporedragon|talk]]) 01:00, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
:Through miiverse --[[User:Pyritie|Pyritie]] ([[User talk:Pyritie|talk]]) 10:04, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
::It is not possible to upload screenshots of the Generation VI games through Miiverse, presumably due to having cases where the 3DS camera is used (Holocaster is one example). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:01, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

== Grammar error ==

On the Editor's Hub page it says "The follow articles don't meet our standards:", when it should be "following". I didn't see a way to edit it, so I'm leaving a note. [[User:Sandrew26|Sandrew26]] ([[User talk:Sandrew26|talk]]) 14:26, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

== Official Sun and Moon Release Dates ==

I am happy to inform you that Nintendo, through a 3DS notification, has set the official release dates for Sun and Moon as Nov. 18. I request that this be put on the main page ASAP [[User:Destructodon|Destructodon]] ([[User talk:Destructodon|talk]]) 01:38, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
:We've already had that information on the Sun and Moon page [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Sun_and_Moon&diff=2439847&oldid=2437102 for more than a month]. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:48, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

== Move breeding table width ==

Is it possible to increase the width of the tables in the "by breeding" section on moves? Everything's so squished that it looks silly and it's very difficult to navigate. Look at [[Leech Seed]] for an example -- the minisprites should be on more than one or two columns per generation. --[[User:Pyritie|Pyritie]] ([[User talk:Pyritie|talk]]) 11:02, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

== Accidentally signed a talk page too many times ==

I somehow signed the bottom of this section http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Tapu_Koko_(Pok%C3%A9mon)#Name_origin and I can't remove the extra signature because of a "vandal filter 3" error... On a side note, how are people supposed to make edits to something they said on the talk pages if they have to sign their edits literally every time? I swear why do all the wikis I visit always have questionable policies? [[User:Mattwo|Mattwo]] ([[User talk:Mattwo|talk]]) 23:06, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
:I've removed the extra signature. As for your other note, you sign every comment you make so other users know who wrote the comment. That should be common sense.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:37, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
::And what about when you're just fixing a typo or something? I shouldn't be forced to place a signature that already exists... [[User:Mattwo|Mattwo]] ([[User talk:Mattwo|talk]]) 07:42, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
:::You shouldn't be fixing typos or grammatical errors. You can't edit your message once you've sent it, that's what the preview button is for.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:25, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
::::So you're basically just expecting everyone to '''''always''''' catch all their mistakes right off the bat? Gotta say, that is an unreasonably high expectation. [[User:Mattwo|Mattwo]] ([[User talk:Mattwo|talk]]) 17:12, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
:::::Not necessarily. If you spot an error once you've sent the message, you just can't edit it. If you wanted to make sure there were no errors in your message, you should use the preview button. If not, then save away and leave it be. Also, stop altering your comments and you don;t need to sign every time you alter your comments. Only when you make new comments.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 17:34, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

== Page Request ==

Please set this page's text to what I said in its talk page: {{redlink|After-Cap effect}} {{unsigned|Theawesomer}}

== Page Request (correction) ==

Please set text for this page to my comment in its talk page: {{redlink|After-Cap Effect}}

I made it

--[[User:Theawesomer|Theawesomer]] ([[User talk:Theawesomer|talk]]) 10:01, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
:Minor glitches like that don't get their own articles, they go on the list of glitches in their generation. And I believe it's already on [[List of glitches in Generation I#Inded #000 post-capture|there]]. [[User:Glik|glik]][[User talk:Glik|glak]] 14:07, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

== Is copying and pasting from other sites allowed? ==

I want to write down the plot of chapter 1 of Pocket monsters B2 W2 ~ A new legend manga. Dogasu's backpack already has the plot. I am not sure if I am allowed to copy and past the information on Dogasu's backpack on to the page or if it is considered plagiarism. I am reffering to this page: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/ANL1 [[User:Awesomevenustoise101|Awesomevenustoise101]] ([[User talk:Awesomevenustoise101|talk]]) 17:11, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
:Absolutely not. Please read [[Bulbapedia:FAQ#Can I copy/steal stuff from other sites?|this]]. --[[User:Carmenstar97|Carmen★]] ''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|(Talk |]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|contribs)]]'' 17:18, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

== Find-and-Replace Bot ==

Do we have a bot that can do a find-and-replace for a certain phrase? [[User:Hydroxybutyric|Hydroxybutyric]] ([[User talk:Hydroxybutyric|talk]]) 21:03, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
::Hello...? [[User:Hydroxybutyric|Hydroxybutyric]] ([[User talk:Hydroxybutyric|talk]]) 21:22, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
:::♫♪♫ Is it {{u|BulbaBot}} you're looking for? ♫♪♫ (...or rather a related thread thread on [http://forums.bulbagarden.net/index.php?forums/bulbawiki-forum.195/ the forums]?) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 10:23, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
::::The user who takes requests for BulbaBot seems to have locked their page, though. [[User:Hydroxybutyric|Hydroxybutyric]] ([[User talk:Hydroxybutyric|talk]]) 14:56, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
:::::BulbaBot's talk page has been locked because it is not a human, so nobody checks its talk page. The staff sometimes use BulbaBot for mass replacement tasks (or their own accounts), but there is no publicly accessible text replacement tool. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:17, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

== Research template ==

I need help, how to write the research needed template [[User:Mrkubatt 98|Mrkubatt 98]] ([[User talk:Mrkubatt 98|talk]]) 21:14, 1 December 2016 (UTC)Mrkubatt_98
:You can tag pages with <code><nowiki>{{incomplete|needs=REASON GOES HERE}}</nowiki></code>. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:15, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
::How do I add a second reason? --[[User:PersonThatReallyLikesPokemon|PersonThatReallyLikesPokemon]] ([[User talk:PersonThatReallyLikesPokemon|talk]]) 10:23, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
:::You just include them in the same area. So maybe <code>"Needs information on where to find Pikachu. Missing details on the location of the Poké Ball."</code> --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:31, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

== [tcg] Difference between "Miscellaneous_Promotional_cards_(tcg)" and the "Additional Cards" Section in sets ==

I was going through the older sets aka [[EX_Hidden_Legends_(TCG)]], and noticed that these sets did not have an additional cards section for cards; like the non holo national championship cards. So I then looked at the [[Miscellaneous_Promotional_cards_(TCG)]] and found them there. I also found some of the newer cards like the build a bear workshop pikachu promo there as well.

Should all the miscellaneous promos be in the '''Additional Cards''' section that is on the set's page (minus the jumbos imo) or are there special rules about what goes there? If not I'd love to edit the older sets and add them.

[[User:Pcompaq|Pcompaq]] ([[User talk:Pcompaq|talk]]) 22:48, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

== ''More info for beginner editors'' ==

There should be a list of '''all''' templates and more editing advice so that people that have knowledge of Pokémon but don't know how to edit pages that well can contribute to the wiki. {{unsigned|PersonThatReallyLikesPokemon}}
:A [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=10 list of all templates] would be excessive and incredibly overwhelming to new editors. The templates most beginners will be interested in are link templates, a list of which can be found at [[BP:LLT]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:54, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
::So where can I find the template for that info thing that is on the right? (also what is that called?)[[User:PersonThatReallyLikesPokemon|PersonThatReallyLikesPokemon]] ([[User talk:PersonThatReallyLikesPokemon|talk]]) 10:13, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
:::That would be called an infobox. In the page source, there will be a template at the top of the page, usually with "Infobox" in its name. If you look up "Template:<nowiki><infobox name></nowiki>" in the search bar, you should find the page for it. We try to provide explanations of how to use them on the template talk pages (like [[Template talk:Pokémon Infobox|this one]]), but older templates in particular lack this. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:31, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

== Image uploading? ==

The [[Statistic]] page has images of an erroneous formula as an example as discussed [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Statistic#Contradiction here]. I have generated new images to replace them, but when I try to upload them it says I am not autoconfirmed. I am reasonably certain I am autoconfirmed, since I've had this account for years and made probably over a hundred edits, so what's going on here? Is there a separate autoconfirmation system for images? [[User:Xolroc|Xolroc]] ([[User talk:Xolroc|talk]]) 21:44, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
:Images are uploaded over on the Bulbagarden Archives (link on the left of the page). Unfortunately, you'll need to become autoconfirmed over there as well, separate from your autocfirmation here. [[User:Glik|glik]][[User talk:Glik|glak]] 21:48, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
::How does that even work, though? Bulbagarden Archives is solely for uploading images, but if you can't upload images without being autoconfirmed and you can't become autoconfirmed without uploading images, it would seem to be simply impossible to do anything. [[User:Xolroc|Xolroc]] ([[User talk:Xolroc|talk]]) 21:51, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
:::You get autoconfirmed for editing, just like here (plus the "had an account long enough" wait time). I can point you to some things there that need done, if you'd like. [[User:Glik|glik]][[User talk:Glik|glak]] 21:56, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
::::Sure, I suppose. I wasn't aware there was anything to edit other than by uploading images though--I thought the archives was just an image repository. [[User:Xolroc|Xolroc]] ([[User talk:Xolroc|talk]]) 21:58, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

== Move Relearner ==

I noticed in {{sup/7}} when you give the [[Move Relearner]] a [[Heart Scale]] you can teach a Pokemon a move it cannot have learned yet due to being a too low level. For example, I can teach my Level 1 [[Dhelmise]] [[Power Whip]] even though it learns it at level 59. I have edited the relevant pages as best I can, but I think I've been a little clunky and unclear. Would someone take a look and try and smooth it out? Thanks :)
[[User:Noink|Noink]] ([[User talk:Noink|talk]]) 23:59, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

== Moving pages ==

I've noticed a few incidents in the last month or so relating to pages being moved, and just wanted to ask: why is moving pages not restricted to administrators? Do we have a good reason for that? Because it seems like page moves should be something that gets discussed rather than just being done. [[User:Xolroc|Xolroc]] ([[User talk:Xolroc|talk]]) 18:40, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
:I think just because you're not allowed to do things in some (or even in the majority of) cases, everyone shouldn't be restricted from doing things generally at all. I think TCG cards, for example, are meant to be qualified with the English expansion they first appeared in (such as [[Ninetales (Evolutions 15)]]), and that requires rather frequent page moves from their original Japanese that don't require that sort of discussion. (And, in general, I think there should be good reasons to restrict things, not to ''not'' restrict them.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 09:53, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
::Didn't think about the TCG cards. I was just thinking of it as something with high abuse potential--which is good reason to restrict something, I think, if there isn't equally good reason to not restrict it. [[User:Xolroc|Xolroc]] ([[User talk:Xolroc|talk]]) 14:31, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

== Category proposal ==

I feel like <nowiki>[[Category:Pokémon whose base stats decrease on evolution]]</nowiki> might be a worthwhile category to have. As an example of Pokémon who it would include, [[Caterpie (Pokémon)#Base stats|Caterpie]] would be in the category because [[Metapod (Pokémon)#Base stats|Metapod]] has lower Attack and Speed stats, despite being one evolution up. --[[User:Xolroc|Felthry]] (F.K.A. Xolroc) ([[User talk:Xolroc|talk]]) 01:20, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

==Phione dead link==

Hi a month or so ago I was looking through the Phione(Pokemon)page and in the trivia there was a link and right next to it a notice the link was dead I clicked on it to confirm and I thought "Whats the point of having a link if its dead?" so i figured it was pointlessly taking bytes and I removed it an hour later someone put it up again can you please tell me why? thanks :)

-marcel878 {{unsigned|marcel878}}

== Where's the page for which articles need images? ==

All I can find are <nowiki>[[Category:Articles needing better pictures]]</nowiki>. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 21:49, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
:I don't know that we have a specific one, but [[:Category:Articles needing improvement]] is the parent category, under which some of the potentially relevant subcategories are the one you found, [[:Category:Anime locations in need of images]], and [[:Category:Moves in need of a screenshot]]. It's likely that many of the pages in [[:Category:Stubs]] need images.
:Additionally, I believe most of the time, people note that an article needs an image by simply noting it in the input text for the <code><nowiki>{{incomplete}}</nowiki></code> template. That template puts the page in [[:Category:Articles needing more information]], so that's another place that's likely to have a lot of pages needing images. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:56, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
::Damn, I was hoping it'd be more organized. Okay, well thanks Pumpkinking. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 22:13, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

== Tables ==

This site seems to be lacking the option to create tables. Which would come in handy in formatting soundtrack pages. I wanted to work on the ''[[Pocket Monster Sound Anime Collection]]'' page, but couldn't do it for that very reason. [[User:Sarujo|Sarujo]] ([[User talk:Sarujo|talk]]) 00:35, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

== Can't log in! ==

I've been using my iPad to brows bulbapedia, but when I want to edit I can't log in! The login option is blocked by the MASSIVE search bar. I thought the app would be better but it's not. I somehow got it to work by going through the archives, but I'm not doing that each time. Any ideas?--[[User:Grass4Lyfe|Grass4Lyfe]] ([[User talk:Grass4Lyfe|talk]]) 02:04, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
: I got the same issue when I'm on moblie. I always just change to desktop view, which makes the login option visible again. When logging in, make sure to check the "keep me logged in" box, so you won't have to log in each time. [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 15:01, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
::: I understand that but how do I actually enter desktop mode? Also, my iPad logs me out automatically after some time.--[[User:Grass4Lyfe|Grass4Lyfe]] ([[User talk:Grass4Lyfe|talk]]) 21:47, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Professor Rowan

2017-06-19T02:09:23Z

Grass4Lyfe: /* Needs a quote. */ new section

Why is it mentioned in the article that Paul got Turtwig from Rowan? If I remember correctly, Paul introduced himself to Rowan in [[DP003]]. So that means this was the first time they were meeting each other. [[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']] 18:58, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
:You do have a point there. Either it was a mistake or Paul recieved his starter Pokémon from Nurse Joy. In an episode in the Advanced Generation, it is mentioned that starters can be given by Nurse Joy when the trainers home town isn't near the Pokémon Lab. Or he could of gotten it from his brother. I think it should be changed to "Unknown" since there are too many variables involved. --'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]''' '''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]''' 12:36, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
::It can also be that Paul got his pokemon from Rowan's assistants, while Rowan was on a trip somewhere, like when Dawn was going to get her pokemon, though he returned before she got it. And also, Rowan only asked who Paul was in the dub. In the original version he said "You are...", maybe because he recognized him. But that's just a theory. [[User:Madch94|Madch94]] 18:23, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:::I believe Paul did receive turtwig from sandgem town ...although since its not confirmed there should be an "unknown" section. [[User:RovingTrainer|RovingTrainer]] 13:01, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

== Age? ==

Where/when was that mentioned?--[[User:Outrage DD|Outrage DD]] 02:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:Implied and said directly in DP. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:29, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

== Kenny's Piplup ==

Is it safe to assume that Kenny got his Piplup from Professor Rowan? I mean he, like Dawn, comes from Twinleaf Town and he can't have started his journey long before her and it has been confirmed he started with Piplup. [[User:Watchermark|Watchermark]] 14:42, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

I think so too. Also, don't forget about Tyler, the kid who started with a Piplup in that episode "The Thief That Keeps on Thieving", and Paul also started with a Turtwig. So we know that Dawn, Kenny & Tyler all started with Piplup and Paul started with Turtwig, so why does it only say that Dawn got Piplup under the "Known Trainers with his starter Pokémon"? [[User:Snowsky|Snowsky]] 22:00, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

== Dialogue Error or Oversight? ==

This has been bothering me.

When the player meets up with Rowan in the Canalave Library, the player is told to investigate Lake Valor before the explosion. However, Rowan only speaks to the player after the player encounters Mesprit at Lake Verity. He says "you collected the data like I asked", implying that Lake Verity was your initial destination.

So, what's going on? [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 19:28, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

== Starly/Staraptor Repeated? ==

Under Professor Rowan's Pokémon, it shows a Starly and Staraptor with similar descriptions which indicate that they seem to be one and the same. Should the two be merged into one? {{unsigned|Zywxn}}
:They aren't though. They're different Pokémon used as part of an evolution study. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:40, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
== Starter Pokemon ==

Was it confirmed that Tyler and Paul got there starter's from him? I see it unlikely because they live so far away from Sandgem town and we know some pokemon center's give out starters so I think it should be changed because it is not confirmed [[User:05308|Lanturn....05308]] 13:46, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

== Whaaaaat? ==

'Some of Chimchar's only known move is Ember'? Typo? {{unsigned|ShinyMew9001}}

== Missing line ==

I was watching a randomizer LP of Platinum, and Rowan said "You've made your Pokémon evolve already?" or something along those lines. I couldn't find it anywhere in his quotes section.
[[User:SuperLuigi9624|SuperLuigi9624]] ([[User talk:SuperLuigi9624|talk]]) 23:58, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

== Hometown ==

Professor Rowan is the only professor aside from professor Sycamore not to have a lab in the player´s hometown.[[User:Robin Maximo|Robin Maximo]] ([[User talk:Robin Maximo|talk]]) 10:27, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
:If he isn't the only one, this isn't notable enough to add to the article. --[[User:Carmenstar97|Carmen★]] ''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|(Talk |]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|contribs)]]'' 14:43, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

== Hometown Again ==

He is not the only one, should we add that he is the first to not have a lab in the hometown of the player character then?--[[User:Robin Maximo|Robin Maximo]] ([[User talk:Robin Maximo|talk]]) 08:32, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

== Mentor ==

He is a mentor only of professor Sycamore? What media is this? I thought he mentors the other "Japan" professors at least.--[[User:Robin Maximo|Robin Maximo]] ([[User talk:Robin Maximo|talk]]) 08:35, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

== Needs a quote. ==

Sorry, but I didn't write it down at the time, but if you evolve your Pokémon before going to Sandgem Town, Prof. Rowan comments on this. I fingered it was a neat touch and should be included in the "quotes" section. If anyone owns the game and wants to grind for 2 hours, go ahead.--[[User:Grass4Lyfe|Grass4Lyfe]] ([[User talk:Grass4Lyfe|talk]]) 02:09, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Hearthome City

2017-06-19T02:07:02Z

Grass4Lyfe: The friendship checker is also available in Diamond and Pearl

{{Town infobox
|name=Hearthome City
|jpname=ヨスガシティ
|jptrans=Yosuga City
|image=Hearthome City Pt.png
|slogan=Warm & Kind
|region=Sinnoh
|north=Amity Square
|west=Route 208
|regionwest=Sinnoh
|east=Route 209
|regioneast=Sinnoh
|south=Route 212
|regionsouth=Sinnoh
|mapdesc=This friendly city started as a place where people and Pokémon gathered, then grew into a center of commerce. If you care about the looks of your Pokémon, head for the Contest Hall. For toughness, go to the Gym. The entrance to Amity Square is here. The square is a place where Trainers can stroll peacefully with Pokémon. There is a building here that is symbolic of the city's status as a place where different cultures meet. A nice fountain with benches, as well as the Pokémon Fan Club, are among the city's amenities.
|gym=Hearthome Gym
|gymno=5{{sup/4|DP}}/3{{sup/4|Pt}}
|leader=Fantina
|leadervs=VSFantina.png
|badge=Relic
|gymtype=Ghost
|colordark=961DBA
|colormed=A540C3
|colorlight=B665CE
|generation=4
}}
'''Hearthome City''' (Japanese: '''ヨスガシティ''' ''Yosuga City'') is a city in the [[region]] of [[Sinnoh]]. Hearthome City is the fifth largest city in the [[Pokémon world]]. Hearthome City is home to the [[Contest Hall|Super Contest Hall]], where one can take part in the {{pkmn|Super Contest}}, a [[Gym]], the [[Pokémon Fan Club]], and the [[Poffin House]], among other things. An old man will give the player a {{p|Happiny}} {{pkmn|Egg}} here in {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}. Hearthome City started as a place where people and {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} gathered and grew into a center of commerce, and is consistently voted as the most desirable place to live in all of Sinnoh. It is also a gateway to nearby [[Solaceon Town]] and [[Pastoria City]].

Hearthome City is a child-friendly city; there are many families and young mothers living there, some of whom can be seen with prams. Most of the buildings use elevators instead of stairs so that small children and Pokémon can move through the houses. The citizens scrupulously keep their city clean.

In {{v2|Platinum}}, the road paving was given an update so it is now all beige. The tree's sprites were changed to match those in Platinum's [[Eterna Forest]]. In addition, the appearance of the entrances to [[Amity Square]] was modified so that the arch features a Psyduck, a Torchic and a Drifloon, and a Pikachu on its back.

==Slogan==
'''''Warm & Kind''''' (Japanese: '''{{j|こころがふれあうばしょ}}''' ''Where hearts touch each other.'')

==Places of interest==
===Super Contest Hall===
[[File:Super Contest Hall DPPt.png|thumb|280px|right|The Super Contest Hall]]
The biggest attraction, garnering contestants from all throughout the region, is the Super Contest Hall. The Super Contest Hall is an expanded format of the [[Pokémon Contest]]s within [[Hoenn]]. In it, Pokémon are rated on their appearance and performance, rather than strength. They are different from the previous generation's competitions in that not only do they have more rounds, but rounds from the earlier games have been altered. The city's [[Gym Leader]], [[Fantina]], is a self-proclaimed master at Pokémon Super Contests.

In {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}, access to {{rt|209|Sinnoh}} is blocked until the player visits the Super Contest Hall.

===Amity Square===
{{main|Amity Square}}
[[File:Amity Square entrance Pt.png|thumb|200px|The entrance to Amity Square in Platinum]]
A notable attraction is Amity Square, where {{pkmn|Trainer}}s relax with their Pokémon. Eleven different types of cute Pokémon will follow the player about in Amity Square, and many Pokémon wander about the city outside of their [[Poké Ball]]s. Amity Square is located north of Hearthome City. The setup in Amity Square is identical to the {{p|Pikachu}} interaction system that was in {{game|Yellow}}. Only certain small Pokémon can be taken for walks in Amity Square, usually of a "cute" appearance. Pokémon will fetch [[Accessory|Accessories]] or [[Berry|Berries]] for their owners every 200 steps. In {{game|Platinum}}, more Pokémon are allowed in than before, and the area has been expanded and redesigned. It now includes a rather large pool of water.

===Pokémon Fan Club===
{{main|Pokémon Fan Club}}
The Sinnoh's Pokémon Fan Club is located in the eastern area of Hearthome City. The Fan Club is basically a place for people to meet and chat about their favorite Pokémon and to show off their collections to each other. In general, the members are usually more oriented to unevolved, cute Pokémon and [[Pokémon Contest]]s than [[Pokémon battle]]s. The Sinnoh Pokémon Fan Club Chairman says that his Fan Club is number one nationwide because he brags more than anyone. However, he doesn't do it anymore because of people's complaints. This may also explain why only two other members are found in his club. Inside the Pokémon Fan Club, the player will receive the {{key|IV|Poffin Case}}, needed to bake [[Poffin]]s. Another member of the club will rate the [[friendship]] of first Pokémon in the player's party.

===Poffin House===
{{main|Poffin House}}
The Poffin House is also here, where coordinators can bake [[Poffin]]s to boost their Pokémon's [[Contest condition|condition]] for [[Pokémon Super Contest]]s, either alone or through DS Wireless Communications with people nearby. Up to four people may bake at a time. The Poffin House is located west of the [[Poké Mart]] where the {{player}} can make [[Poffin]]s, which are the replacement of [[Pokéblock]]s from {{3v2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}. The player has to speak to the lady a little to the left of the entrance, throw in his or her selected [[Berry]] and start stirring the liquid to begin creating their own Poffin. The Poffin's level depends on the amount of time consumed cooking the Poffin, the number of burns, and the number of spills.

===Bebe's House===
[[Bebe]], the system administrator for Sinnoh's [[Pokémon Storage System]] who will also give the player an {{p|Eevee}} living in the midst of Hearthome City. Her house, which is next to the [[Pokémon Center]] in Hearthome, is not quite as cluttered as Lanette's. Bebe is good friends with [[Hayley]], who owns a [[My Pokémon Ranch|ranch in which Pokémon can be stored]], and they still keep in contact with each other. After the player obtains the [[National Pokédex]], she will give them a [[level]] 5 {{p|Eevee}}. This Eevee came from a [[Bill|good mate in Johto]] before being passed onto the player. In {{game|Platinum}}, the Eevee is available right away at level 20, without the need of the National Pokédex.

===Mr. Goods===
{{main|Mr. Goods}}
[[Mr. Goods]] lives on the street of Hearthome, although he claims he can't remember who he is or his real name. He is a bemused man dedicated to rarities who gives out [[goods]] to decorate the [[Secret Base]] in the [[Sinnoh Underground]] with upon completion of certain tasks, such as using the [[Global Terminal|GTS]] or defeating all eight [[Gym]]s. Mr. Goods will also reward a Trainer for other miscellaneous achievements.

===Foreign Building===
[[File:Foreign Building DPPt.png|thumb|200px|right|The Foreign Building]]
The Foreign Building (Japanese: いぶんかのたてもの ''Foreign Culture Building'') is a building located in the western side of Hearthome City. It has six benches and stained glass windows. All the people there talk about the grace of life in the [[Pokémon world]], supernatural powers, and the balance of spirit and nature. It seems to be loosely based on a church or cathedral, and is the first building in all the Pokémon games to be so. Respectfully, no music can be heard in the building. In the morning, one can see a piece of the wall jutting out behind the stone tablets on either side of the inside.

===Pokémon Hotel===
In the middle of the city, next to the Pokémon Fan Club, is a hotel called the Pokémon Hotel. There are only two accessible floors within the hotel. These can be accessed to by a large, automatic elevator. Many visitors come from all parts of the world to enter the Super Contest, or visit Amity Square. Visitors can stay here for a while to enjoy the parts of Hearthome. The landlord inhibits the first floor, and on the second floor lives a woman and a {{p|Clefairy}}. She will give the player a {{DL|In-battle effect item|Shell Bell}}, saying that she was given it on vacation, but already had one.

===Hearthome Gym===
{{main|Hearthome Gym}}
The Hearthome Gym is the official [[Gym]] of Hearthome City. It is based on {{type|Ghost}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}. The [[Gym Leader]] is [[Fantina]]. {{pkmn|Trainer}}s who defeat her receive the {{Badge|Relic}}. In {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}, the Hearthome Gym is the fifth Gym and Fantina cannot be challenged until after the player has received {{HM|03|Surf}} from [[Cynthia]]'s grandmother in [[Celestic Town]]. In {{game|Platinum}}, however, the Hearthome Gym is the third Gym and can be challenged immediately.

In Diamond and Pearl, the Gym consists of five stories, with a mathematical puzzle on each floor and three doors corresponding to a potential answer, with the correct door leading to the next floor and the wrong doors leading only to a battle with a Trainer. In Platinum, the inside of the Gym is shrouded in darkness and the player must navigate using a flashlight.

For defeating Fantina, Trainers receive the Relic Badge and {{TM|65|Shadow Claw}}. They also gain the ability to use {{m|Surf}} outside of battle in Diamond and Pearl, or {{m|Defog}} in Platinum.

==Demographics==
===Pokémon Diamond and Pearl===
[[File:Hearthome City DP.png|thumb|300px|right|Hearthome City in Diamond and Pearl]]
In {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}, the population of Hearthome City is 91 people. It is [[Sinnoh]]'s largest city and one of the largest cities in the [[Pokémon world]]. Given that it is the only town in the Pokémon world to feature babies, it probably has the lowest age distribution too.

===Pokémon Platinum===
In {{game|Platinum}}, the population of Hearthome City has decreased to 81 people. Despite the drop, it is still one of the largest cities in the [[Pokémon world]].

==Poké Mart==
{{shop|Left cashier}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Heart Mail|50}}|{{shopitem|Heal Ball|300}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Net Ball|1000}}|{{shopitem|Nest Ball|1000}}}}
{{shopfooter|multiple=yes}}
{{shop|Right cashier}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Poké Ball|200}}|{{shopitem|Great Ball|600|note=3 {{color2|000|Badge|Badges}}}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Ultra Ball|1200|note=5 {{color2|000|Badge|Badges}}}}|{{shopitem|Potion|300}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Super Potion|700}}|{{shopitem|Hyper Potion|1200|note=5 {{color2|000|Badge|Badges}}}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Max Potion|2500|note=7 {{color2|000|Badge|Badges}}}}|{{shopitem|Full Restore|3000|note=8 {{color2|000|Badge|Badges}}}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Revive|1500|note=3 {{color2|000|Badge|Badges}}}}|{{shopitem|Antidote|100}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Parlyz Heal|200}}|{{shopitem|Awakening|250}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Burn Heal|250}}|{{shopitem|Ice Heal|250}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Full Heal|600|note=5 {{color2|000|Badge|Badges}}}}|{{shopitem|Escape Rope|550}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Repel|350}}|{{shopitem|Super Repel|500|note=3 {{color2|000|Badge|Badges}}}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Max Repel|700|note=7 {{color2|000|Badge|Badges}}}}}}
{{shopfooter}}

==Items==
{{itlisth|road}}
{{Itemlist|Shell Bell|Given by a woman in the Pokémon Hotel|D=yes|P=yes|Pt=yes|display={{DL|In-battle effect item|Shell Bell}}}}
{{Itemlist|None|sprite=Accessory Glitter Powder Sprite|Given by [[Keira]] in the [[Contest Hall|Super Contest Hall]]|D=yes|P=yes|Pt=yes|display={{DL|Accessory|Massage accessories|Glitter Powder}}}}
{{Itemlist|None|Given by [[Johanna]] in the [[Contest Hall|Super Contest Hall]]|D=yes|P=yes|Pt=yes|display={{tt|Tuxedo|If the player is a boy}}/{{tt|Dress|If the player is a girl}}|sprite={{#ifexpr: ({{#time: H}} mod 2) = 0|Lucas|Dawn}}Contestwalkdown}}
{{Itemlist|TinyMushroom|Near the Amity Square West Gate, on the outside of the town fence line ''(hidden)''|D=yes|P=yes|display={{DL|Valuable item|Tiny Mushroom|TinyMushroom}}}}
{{Itemlist|Big Mushroom|Near the Amity Square West Gate, on the outside of the town fence line ''(hidden)''|Pt=yes|display={{DL|Valuable item|Big Mushroom}}}}
{{Itemlist|Poffin Case|Given by the Fan Club Chairman in the [[Pokémon Fan Club]]|D=yes|P=yes|Pt=yes|display={{key|IV|Poffin Case}}}}
{{itlistfoot|road}}

==Pokémon==
{{Catch/header|city|4}}
{{catch/div|city|Gift Pokémon}}
{{catch/entry4|133|Eevee|yes|yes|no|Gift|5|all=One}}
{{catch/entry4|133|Eevee|no|no|yes|Gift|20|all=One}}
{{catch/entry4|440|Happiny|yes|yes|no|Egg|1|all=One}}
{{catch/footer|city}}

==Trainers==
===Pokémon Diamond and Pearl===
{{MSP|387|Turtwig}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:
{{Party/Single
|color=E08040
|bordercolor=629C20
|headcolor=FFE683
|sprite=Spr DP Barry.png
|prize={{pdollar}}2100
|class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer
|classlink=Pokémon Trainer
|name={{color2|000|Barry (game)|Barry}}
|game=DP
|location=Hearthome City
|pokemon=4
}}
|{{Pokémon/4
|ndex=396
|pokemon=Starly
|game=Diamond
|gender=male
|spritegender=male
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying
|ability=Keen Eye|level=19
|move1=Endeavor|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Double Team|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Wing Attack|move3type=Flying|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Quick Attack|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/4
|ndex=418
|pokemon=Buizel
|game=Diamond
|gender=male
|spritegender=male
|type1=Water
|ability=Swift Swim
|level=20
|move1=Pursuit|move1type=Dark|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water|move3cat=Special
|move4=Quick Attack|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}
{{Party/Div|color=E08040}}
|{{Pokémon/4
|ndex=315
|pokemon=Roselia
|game=Diamond
|gender=male
|spritegender=male
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison
|ability=Natural Cure
|level=20
|move1=Poison Sting|move1type=Poison|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Stun Spore|move2type=Grass|move2cat=Status
|move3=Mega Drain|move3type=Grass|move3cat=Special
|move4=Leech Seed|move4type=Grass|move4cat=Status}}
|{{Pokémon/4
|ndex=391
|pokemon=Monferno
|game=Diamond
|gender=male
|type1=Fire|type2=Fighting
|ability=Blaze
|level=21
|move1=Fury Swipes|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Leer|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Mach Punch|move3type=Fighting|move3cat=Physical}}
{{Party/Footer}}

{{MSP|390|Chimchar}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:
{{Party/Single
|color=E08040
|bordercolor=629C20
|headcolor=FFE683
|sprite=Spr DP Barry.png
|prize={{pdollar}}2100
|class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer
|classlink=Pokémon Trainer
|name={{color2|000|Barry (game)|Barry}}
|game=DP
|location=Hearthome City
|pokemon=4
}}
|{{Pokémon/4
|ndex=396
|pokemon=Starly
|game=Diamond
|gender=male
|spritegender=male
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying
|ability=Keen Eye
|level=19
|move1=Endeavor|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Double Team|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Wing Attack|move3type=Flying|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Quick Attack|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/4
|ndex=077
|pokemon=Ponyta
|game=Diamond
|gender=male
|type1=Fire
|ability=Flash Fire
|level=20
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Tail Whip|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Growl|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Status
|move4=Ember|move4type=Fire|move4cat=Special}}
{{Party/Div|color=E08040}}
|{{Pokémon/4
|ndex=315
|pokemon=Roselia
|game=Diamond
|gender=male
|spritegender=male
|type1=Grass
|type2=Poison
|ability=Natural Cure
|level=20
|move1=Poison Sting|move1type=Poison|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Stun Spore|move2type=Grass|move2cat=Status
|move3=Mega Drain|move3type=Grass|move3cat=Special
|move4=Leech Seed|move4type=Grass|move4cat=Status}}
|{{Pokémon/4
|ndex=394
|pokemon=Prinplup
|game=Diamond
|gender=male
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|level=21
|move1=Peck|move1type=Flying|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Metal Claw|move2type=Steel|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Bubble|move3type=Water|move3cat=Special
|move4=Growl|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}
{{Party/Footer}}

{{MSP|393|Piplup}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:
{{Party/Single
|color=E08040
|bordercolor=629C20
|headcolor=FFE683
|sprite=Spr DP Barry.png
|prize={{pdollar}}2100
|class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer
|classlink=Pokémon Trainer
|name={{color2|000|Barry (game)|Barry}}
|game=DP
|location=Hearthome City
|pokemon=4
}}
|{{Pokémon/4
|ndex=396
|pokemon=Starly
|game=Diamond
|gender=male
|spritegender=male
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying
|ability=Keen Eye|level=19
|move1=Endeavor|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Double Team|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Wing Attack|move3type=Flying|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Quick Attack|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/4
|ndex=418
|pokemon=Buizel
|game=Diamond and Pearl
|gender=male
|spritegender=male
|type1=Water
|ability=Swift Swim
|level=20
|move1=Pursuit|move1type=Dark|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Water Gun|move3type=Water|move3cat=Special
|move4=Quick Attack|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}
{{Party/Div|color=E08040}}
|{{Pokémon/4
|ndex=077
|pokemon=Ponyta
|game=Diamond and Pearl
|gender=male
|type1=Fire
|ability=Flash Fire
|level=20
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Tail Whip|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Growl|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Status
|move4=Ember|move4type=Fire|move4cat=Special}}
|{{Pokémon/4
|ndex=388
|pokemon=Grotle
|game=Diamond and Pearl
|gender=male
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|level=21
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Razor Leaf|move2type=Grass|move2cat=Physical}}
{{Party/Footer}}

===Pokémon Platinum===
{{MSP|387|Turtwig}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:
{{Party/Single
|color=E08040
|bordercolor=629C20
|headcolor=FFE683
|sprite=Spr Pt Barry.png
|prize={{pdollar}}2700
|class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer
|classlink=Pokémon Trainer
|name={{color2|000|Barry (game)|Barry}}
|game=Pt
|location=Hearthome City
|pokemon=4}}
|{{Pokémon/4
|ndex=397
|pokemon=Staravia
|game=Platinum
|gender=male
|spritegender=male
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying
|ability=Intimidate
|level=25
|move1=Double Team|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status
|move2=Wing Attack|move2type=Flying|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Quick Attack|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Endeavor|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/4
|ndex=418
|pokemon=Buizel
|game=Platinum
|gender=male
|spritegender=male
|type1=Water
|ability=Swift Swim
|level=23
|move1=Water Gun|move1type=Water|move1cat=Special
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Growl|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Status
|move4=Pursuit|move4type=Dark|move4cat=Physical}}
{{Party/Div|color=E08040}}
|{{Pokémon/4
|ndex=315
|pokemon=Roselia
|game=Platinum
|gender=male
|spritegender=male
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison
|ability=Natural Cure
|level=23
|move1=Stun Spore|move1type=Grass|move1cat=Status
|move2=Mega Drain|move2type=Grass|move2cat=Special
|move3=Poison Sting|move3type=Poison|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Leech Seed|move4type=Grass|move4cat=Status}}
|{{Pokémon/4
|ndex=391
|pokemon=Monferno
|game=Platinum
|gender=male
|type1=Fire|type2=Fighting
|ability=Blaze
|level=27
|move1=Mach Punch|move1type=Fighting|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Leer|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Flame Wheel|move3type=Fire|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Fury Swipes|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}
{{Party/Footer}}

{{MSP|390|Chimchar}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:
{{Party/Single
|color=E08040
|bordercolor=629C20
|headcolor=FFE683
|sprite=Spr Pt Barry.png
|prize={{pdollar}}2700
|class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer
|classlink=Pokémon Trainer
|name={{color2|000|Barry (game)|Barry}}
|game=Pt
|location=Hearthome City
|pokemon=4}}
|{{Pokémon/4
|ndex=397
|pokemon=Staravia
|game=Platinum
|gender=male
|spritegender=male
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying
|ability=Intimidate
|level=25
|move1=Double Team|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status
|move2=Wing Attack|move2type=Flying|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Quick Attack|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Endeavor|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/4
|ndex=077
|pokemon=Ponyta
|game=Platinum
|gender=male
|type1=Fire
|ability=Flash Fire
|level=23
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Ember|move2type=Fire|move2cat=Special
|move3=Growl|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Status
|move4=Tail Whip|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}
{{Party/Div|color=E08040}}
|{{Pokémon/4
|ndex=315
|pokemon=Roselia
|game=Platinum
|gender=male
|spritegender=male
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison
|ability=Natural Cure
|level=23
|move1=Stun Spore|move1type=Grass|move1cat=Status
|move2=Mega Drain|move2type=Grass|move2cat=Special
|move3=Poison Sting|move3type=Poison|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Leech Seed|move4type=Grass|move4cat=Status}}
|{{Pokémon/4
|ndex=394
|pokemon=Prinplup
|game=Platinum
|gender=male
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|level=27
|move1=Growl|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status
|move2=Peck|move2type=Flying|move2cat=Physical
|move3=BubbleBeam|move3type=Water|move3cat=Special
|move4=Metal Claw|move4type=Steel|move4cat=Physical}}
{{Party/Footer}}

{{MSP|393|Piplup}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:
{{Party/Single
|color=E08040
|bordercolor=629C20
|headcolor=FFE683
|sprite=Spr Pt Barry.png
|prize={{pdollar}}2700
|class={{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer
|classlink=Pokémon Trainer
|name={{color2|000|Barry (game)|Barry}}
|game=Pt
|location=Hearthome City
|pokemon=4}}
|{{Pokémon/4
|ndex=397
|pokemon=Staravia
|game=Platinum
|gender=male
|spritegender=male
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying
|ability=Intimidate
|level=25
|move1=Double Team|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status
|move2=Wing Attack|move2type=Flying|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Quick Attack|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Endeavor|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/4
|ndex=418
|pokemon=Buizel
|game=Platinum
|gender=male
|spritegender=male
|type1=Water
|ability=Swift Swim
|level=23
|move1=Water Gun|move1type=Water|move1cat=Special
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Growl|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Status
|move4=Pursuit|move4type=Dark|move4cat=Physical}}
{{Party/Div|color=E08040}}
|{{Pokémon/4
|ndex=077
|pokemon=Ponyta
|game=Platinum
|gender=male
|type1=Fire
|ability=Flash Fire
|level=23
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Ember|move2type=Fire|move2cat=Special
|move3=Growl|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Status
|move4=Tail Whip|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}
|{{Pokémon/4
|ndex=388
|pokemon=Grotle
|game=Platinum
|gender=male
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|level=27
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Razor Leaf|move2type=Grass|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Absorb|move3type=Grass|move3cat=Special
|move4=Withdraw|move4type=Water|move4cat=Status}}
{{Party/Footer}}

====In the Pokémon Center====
On certain days, the player can challenge a Trainer who appears in the Pokémon Center. Depending on the game progress, these Trainers will have teams with higher leveled Pokémon upon rematch.

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==In the anime==
[[File:Hearthome City anime.png|thumb|220px|right|Hearthome City in the anime]]
{{Ash}} and {{ashfr}} first arrived in Hearthome City in ''[[DP049|Dawn's Early Night!]]''. Ash was excited at the opportunity to win his third [[Sinnoh]] [[Gym]] [[Badge]] and went running through the city along with {{cat|Ash's Pokémon|his Pokémon}} to get to the [[Hearthome Gym]]. However, the [[Gym Leader]] was not present and they were greeted by [[Nando]] instead, who informed them about the [[Hearthome City Tag Battle Competition]]. This got Ash and {{an|Brock}} interested and they decided to enter the tournament together as a team. Later, {{an|Dawn}} and Nando headed to the [[Contest Hall]] to compete in the city's [[Pokémon Contest]]. On their way, they met up with [[Zoey]], another one of Dawn's [[rival]]s who was also entering the Hearthome Contest.

As Zoey explained to Dawn in ''[[DP041|A Stand-Up Sit-Down!]]'', the Hearthome City Pokémon Contest follows the [[Double Performance]] format, meaning that all {{pkmn|Coordinator}}s have to show off two {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} at once in the [[Appeal|Performance Stage]] in order to advance to the second round, which consists of [[Double Battle|two-on-two]] [[Contest Battle]]s. The event began later that day, with [[Jessie|Jessilina]] also participating. For the first round, Dawn called out her {{TP|Dawn|Piplup}} and {{TP|Dawn|Pachirisu}}. Although their performance received positive reviews from [[Raoul Contesta|all]] [[Mr. Sukizo|three]] [[Nurse Joy|judges]], it was not enough to send Dawn to the Battle Stage. As a result, Dawn was eliminated from the competition while her rivals moved on to the second round. There, Nando was seen depleting all of Jessilina's points to advance to the finals, where he faced off against Zoey. He was able to defeat her with the help of his {{TP|Nando|Kricketune}} and {{TP|Nando|Roselia}}, thus earning the Hearthome Ribbon, his second {{pkmn|Contest}} [[Ribbon]] overall.

[[File:Hearthome City Tag Battle Competition.png|thumb|left|220px|The setting for the Tag Battle tournament]]
The city's [[Multi Battle|Tag Battle]] tournament began in ''[[DP050|Tag! We're It...!]]'', where it was revealed that the competing {{pkmn|Trainer}}s would be randomly paired up by a computer. For this reason, Ash, Dawn, and Brock got tagged with [[Paul]], [[Conway]], and [[Holly]], respectively. During the first round, they all managed to defeat their opponents and, in ''[[DP051|Glory Blaze!]]'', they proved successful once again by winning their battles in the second round. Before the semifinals, Paul {{pkmn2|released}} his {{TP|Paul|Chimchar}} due to its inability to activate {{a|Blaze}} during their last battle. Chimchar was then invited to join Ash's [[Party|team]]. In ''[[DP052|Smells Like Team Spirit!]]'', Dawn and Conway made it to the finals while Paul and Ash went up against Brock and Holly. [[Brock's Croagunk]] and Holly's {{p|Farfetch'd}} were no match for [[Paul's Torterra]] and they were easily defeated, bringing Ash and Paul to the finals. There, Ash and Paul sent out {{AP|Chimchar}} and {{TP|Paul|Elekid}} while Dawn and Conway called out {{TP|Dawn|Buizel}} and {{p|Heracross}}. During their battle, Paul's {{p|Elekid}} [[Evolution|evolved]] into {{p|Electabuzz}}, which helped Ash and Paul win the competition.

In ''[[DP086|Arriving in Style!]]'', the group returned to Hearthome City for Ash's [[Gym]] {{pkmn|battle}}, only to find out the Gym Leader was still out of town developing a new battling style. While in the city, Ash and Dawn were invited by [[Paris]] to enter the [[Hearthome Collection]], a fashion show for {{pkmn|Stylist}}s and their Pokémon where the winner gets to work on a photo shoot for the {{DL|Magazines in the Pokémon world|Poké Chic}} magazine. Together with [[Cocoa]] and [[Jessie|Jessilina]], Ash and Dawn entered the event. In the end, Ash, Dawn, and Cocoa were chosen by Paris and [[Hermione]] as the three finalists. When the results were announced, it was revealed that Ash and {{AP|Pikachu}} had placed third and would be given the Unique Award for their originality, while Cocoa and {{p|Mismagius}} would receive the Accessory Award as a prize for getting to second place. Dawn and {{TP|Dawn|Buneary}} were declared as the big winners, but Dawn said she wouldn't be taking part in the Poké Chic campaign in order to focus on her {{pkmn|Coordinator}} {{pkmn|training}}.
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==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
{{adv|Platinum}}, {{adv|Diamond}} and {{adv|Pearl}} arrive in Hearthome City in ''[[PS350|Booying with Buneary]]'' and stumble upon [[Keira|Keira's]] Buneary. They follow it to the Super Contest Hall, where they meet Keira. With the help of Sinnoh's [[Pokémon Fan Club Chairman]], the trio prepare for Platinum's upcoming Normal Rank [[Super Contest]], which Platinum wins. The next day, the trio meet [[Fantina]], the city's [[Gym Leader]], who helps them out of the city by air when [[Paka and Uji]] spot them.

The trio later return to Hearthome City together with Fantina from [[Celestic Town]], and Platinum later challenges her in a Gym battle. After winning the battle, Platinum learns that her father was captured, and Fantina lends her {{p|Drifblim}} so that the trio can get to [[Canalave City]] quickly.

The city is a fashion capital according to Platinum's Sinnoh travel guide.

==Trivia==
* A woman in the city mentions that she evolved one of her Pokémon with a Water Stone; however, none of the Pokémon in the Sinnoh Pokédex evolve via Water Stone. In {{game|Platinum}}, her dialog is changed to reference a Fire Stone instead. Either way, no Pokémon in the original Sinnoh Pokédex can evolve using these two evolutionary stones, with only {{p|Eevee}} in the Platinum extension making use of them.
* In the {{pkmn|anime}}, {{an|Enta}} is the mayor of Hearthome City. However, this is only mentioned in the dub.
* In {{game|Platinum}}, there is a girl with a {{p|Shroomish}} in one of the houses, despite it not being in the [[List of Pokémon by Sinnoh Pokédex number|Sinnoh Pokédex]].
** A {{p|Torchic}} can be seen on the board of [[Amity Square]], despite it also not listed in the Sinnoh Pokédex.
* In Pokémon Platinum, Hearthome City seems to push the limits of what the DS can handle, and tends to lag when the player runs outside of a building.

==Name origin==
{| class="roundy" style="background: #A540C3; border: 3px solid #961DBA"
|-
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Japanese
| ヨスガシティ ''Yosuga City''
| From 縁 (''yosuga''), "a way of life".
|- style="background:#FFF"
| English
| Hearthome City
| From the expression ''home is where the heart is''.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| French
| Unionpolis
| From ''union'' and ''-polis'', from the Greek word for city.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| German
| Herzhofen
| From ''Herz'', heart, and the suffix ''hofen'' (court).
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Italian
| Cuoripoli
| From ''cuore'', heart, and the suffix ''-poli'', meaning ''city''.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Spanish
| Ciudad Corazón Ciudad Corazonada{{tt|*|Latin American dub}}
| ''Corazón'' means heart. ''Corazonada'' means hunch.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Korean
| 연고시티 ''Yeongo City''
| From {{tt|연고지 ''yeongoji''|hometown}}; also contains 縁(연) ''yeon'' from its Japanese name.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan}})
| 緣之市 ''Yuánzhī Shì''
| From 縁 (''yosuga''). Can be interpreted as "City of predestined relationship".
|- style="background:#FFF"
|Russian
|Хартхоум Сити ''Harthoum Siti''
|Transcription of English name
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Vietnamese
| Thành phố Yosuga
| Transliteration of Japanese name
|}
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[[Category:Platinum locations]]
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[[fr:Unionpolis]]
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== Your archive template ==

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:Thank you! Looks perfect now. :) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:51, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

== Re: Forme ==

Actually, the forme part was already there when I looked at it. All I did was capitalize the F since such capitalization seemed to be consistent where I was standing. I wasn't aware of any terminology rules or whatever. But anyway, it's cool. Do whatever you need to do. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:29, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

== RE: Official sources ==

Sorry about that, when you asked for a source I thought you meant a source for his name. I realized after that while his name was confirmed by the image I linked to, his relationship with Samuel Oak was not, and at the time I did not have a source for that. The various claims of Nariya being Oak's cousin come from this tweet by Famitsu: https://twitter.com/famitsu/status/773718769117990912

I'm not sure if they count as an offical source, so I'll leave that up to your discretion. [[User:Skyarrow|Skyarrow]] ([[User talk:Skyarrow|talk]]) 06:20, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

== Protection ==

May I ask, primarily out of interest, why you say that ''"Prerelease articles should not be editable by non-staff"''? Right now, I can understand how it makes sense to restrict access to some controversial articles or ones that have a history of being edited prematurely in some way (''"Speculation crackdown"''), but I wouldn't necessarily have derived a strict rule like that. (So, for example, I wouldn't have protected [[Lusamine]] in particular, as the article has basically only benefited from its non-protection.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 00:41, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
:Prerelease articles inherently, by virtue of being prerelease, will draw attention and speculation from people who are not familiar with Bulbapedia's policies. I think it's best to pre-empt that before it happens, and since the staff have been protecting things as requested, they clearly don't disagree. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:44, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
::Ok, thanks. So it's just two different philosophies, I guess; I might be a little naive, but I'd rather start off expecting improvement rather than a high likelihood of nonsense being added. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 00:55, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
:::Given that Bulbapedia entirely shuts down non-staff editing at the beginning of every generation so staff can update our pages without interference, I think that ship had sailed a solid decade ago. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 01:32, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
::::Future note, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Refrigerate_(Ability) we don't prefer doing it for ALL prerelease info], just pokémon. You do have to have faith in editors before getting PROTECTPROTECT trigger happy, and I don't agree protecting moves/abilities/people outright should be a thing until real issues arise. Please bear this in mind. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 01:54, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
:::::I can actually understand the non-staff edit lock better; I guess it's really hard to ensure that each of the many edits to move learn levels etc. is actually trustworthy. For prerelease articles, I guess staff (and also you and me) can just spot errors rather easily, then fix them. (And then protect them.) I was interested in your reasoning/opinion, especially seeing you're non-staff. While I agree with ArcToraphim, I at least know what you are (have been) thinking, so thanks again for that. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 02:10, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

== yveltal and the black death ==

I didn't base the black death analysis on color scheme or the fact it represents death. I don't know what has caused you to believe this. The black death aspect comes from the fact that it annihilated huge scores of humans and Pokémon with a roughly similar timescale and geological area as the real-world black death. Also, stating it has basis on the black death would be no different than stating the new alolan dance birds Oricorio are based off specific dance styles/practices. Pokémon are not singular, they are a multisided often Chimeric representation of multiple ideas, concepts and imaginings. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 09:11, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
:It just seems like a huge stretch to me. You can find similarities if you're really squinting, but you would think that if the plague outbreak was intended to be part of Yveltal's origin, it would either have the Poison type (to indicate the disease basis), some Poison moves in its level-up learnlist, or at least some visual connection to the {{wp|Danse Macabre}}, the most well-known symbolic representation of the plague. Yveltal doesn't have any of these. Also, note that it's a counterpart to Xerneas, which has no alleged parallel to anything like the plague; if the plague was meant to be Yveltal's basis, it would make sense for its counterpart to have a directly related or directly opposite basis, and Xerneas just plain doesn't. Origin sections are for the most likely origins, not every single tenuous connection that someone can dream up. The Yveltal-Black Death connection strongly seems like the latter to me. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:16, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
::So your reasoning that it can't be based off a historical event/plague is because its not a Poison-type? If you want to play types here, it is a dark type, that's just as close. Plus we have a virus based Pokemon, and it is not Poison-type, in fact it is Psychic-type which is strong against Poison-types. That would be like saying Rotom can't become a computer virus unless it becomes an electric/poison type. Poisons, Bacteria (such as that which caused the plague) and viruses work on separate levels. True some bacteria are considered poisonous (they produce toxins but are not by themselves toxic) but that is about it. Humans are not very reliable on their description on things. For godsakes, before West Nile and now Zika became the new hot topics/fear buttons, I saw little signs next to the bugspray section saying "Protect against mosquitoes that can carry the Malaria Virus" and I live in the US and it's been eradicated here for over half a century and is a parasitic one-cell organism, not a virus.

::And if you want Danse Macabre, look at the promotional Yveltal art of it flying over a burning city or this image from the M17 manga http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Yveltal_M17_manga.png that looks pretty Danse Macabre to me.

::I must ask why do you have such a problem with stating it may have origins in one of the most horrific events in european and asian history when you allowed it to keep the Wyvern origin despite not being even remotely similar in appearance, and the fact gen VI already had 2 Wyvern Pokemon, the evolution of which actually does look like a Wyvern. Bing search Wyvern and this shows up "A wyvern, sometimes spelled wivern, is a legendary winged creature with a dragon's head and wings; a reptilian body; two legs; and a tail." to turn a phrase here, you'd have to squint until your eyelids inverted to see any similarities there.

::As for Xerneas being the counterpart to disease, what more counterpart to disease can you get beyond immortality? As much as I wish it could have happened in the Twilight Saga, Edward and all his immortal sparkling vampire kin were in no danger of disease. In fact Edward was saved from the spanish flu by becoming immortal.

::By the way, the term Black Death or Black Plague is only recent. One thing it was originally called was '''<nowiki>'</nowiki>The Great Mortality<nowiki>'</nowiki>''' back when the plague was happening. Things were scary back then. There you are minding your own business, when suddenly you see the plague doctors in their bird-like mask roll into town and all you can think about is that imminent death has come knocking on your door to swift you away. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 03:38, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
:::I'm not going to try to discuss with a wall of text that big. Take it to a staff member if you want to continue arguing, please. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:43, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

== about the mew glitch and glicth city pages. ==

1. I was trying to say that the glitch can also be done on the virtual console re-release on the nintendon 3DS.

2.I was putting the glitch city laboratories.com articles in my own words and also I said Gameshark because, according to glitch city.com, Glitch city in generation II can only be accessed by using Gameshark.

3. are there any easy articles that I can edit to? because the only time my edit remained unchanged and the same and not removed was when I added the ISBN number for the Fire Pokémon Keychain Book for the Fire Pokémon (Pokémon Keychain Book) page. [[User:Awesomevenustoise101|Awesomevenustoise101]] ([[User talk:Awesomevenustoise101|talk]]) 14:52, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
:1. Since it's applicable to all [[core series]] Generation I games regardless of system, and since few (if any?) glitches were fixed for the re-release, I don't think it's necessary to specify that.
:2. It's probably best not to try to incorporate content from other websites, regardless of whether you've reworded it or not. Simply taking and rewording content from another website could still be seen as stealing their content. As for the GameShark, I think our glitch articles typically don't give much prominence to glitches that can only be performed with outside tools like the GameShark. Glitches that can happen in an unmodified game are our main focus.
:3. The {{bp|Editor's Hub}} has a lot of resources that can help you out. The [[:Category:Articles needing improvement|list of articles needing improvement]] is probably the closest thing to what you're looking for, but I strongly encourage you to take a glance at all of the resources in the Editor's Hub to see what helps you. Best wishes, and happy editing! [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:47, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

==Beldum==
Sooo, I kinda wanted to know why wouldn't it be a spacecraft. I mean, it sounds way more absurd to me a random levitating bullet/dumbbell. In fact, being a satellite/rocket/spacecraft explains why it is a Psychic Pokémon, once space-related are often treated as such.

If it is a Launcher vehicle it also explains why it only learns Take Down and Headbutt moves, suggesting how it only keeps going forward.
[[User:ExLight|ExLight]] ([[User talk:ExLight|talk]]) 13:53, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
:uuh, so you're just goin' to ignore me? Kinda disrespectful to remove what other users had written and not give 'em a proper explanation. Are you even a Staff member? [[User:ExLight|ExLight]] ([[User talk:ExLight|talk]]) 12:17, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
::No, I'm not a staff member, as you can clearly see on the {{bp|staff}} list. Didn't mean to ignore you, just set it aside for a better time and then forgot that it was there. Beldum's name in both English and Japanese is based on ''dumbbell'', meaning that is the most likely origin. (Thanks for pointing out the absurdity of the bullet one; I'll remove that, too.) I personally don't see much resemblance between Beldum and spacecraft beyond the vague shape, but if you'd like to ask an actual staff member for their opinion, feel free. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:08, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
:::The dumbbell might be a reference to "dumbbell" shaped satellites, despite not having such appearance. On the other hand, its Species (Iron Ball Pokémon) may suggest other shapped spacecrafts, especially on their final stage; and its back/hand sure looks like some rockety thing. We may debate until we both reach some conclusion, but otherwise I intend to re-edit it as a possible origin and leave it to judged by someone from the staff.
:::Thanks for your attention tho [[User:ExLight|ExLight]] ([[User talk:ExLight|talk]]) 21:10, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

== I Don't understand ==

I don't understand the problem with the trivia I added for Pokémon Diamond, Pearl and Platinum. Please explain. [[User:Awesomevenustoise101|Awesomevenustoise101]] ([[User talk:Awesomevenustoise101|talk]]) 18:32, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
:"Only" means something is the ''only'' one. Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum are three games. It's impossible for three things to be the ''only'' one. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:46, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
::Why can't I just re-word the trivia? [[User:Awesomevenustoise101|Awesomevenustoise101]] ([[User talk:Awesomevenustoise101|talk]]) 18:50, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
:::I mean, if you can find a way to make it notable, that's your prerogative, but it doesn't seem possible to me, nor important or interesting. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:04, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
::::I don't understand what it means if trivia is notable or not, sorry if these questions are bothering you. [[User:Awesomevenustoise101|Awesomevenustoise101]] ([[User talk:Awesomevenustoise101|talk]]) 19:08, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
:::::[[User:Force Fire/Trivia Policy]] and its subpages (accessible via the navbox at the bottom) will probably explain this better than I can. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:12, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

== My edits ==

I notice that you seem to hold my edits in high regard as "this is the way things have to be" (e.g. [[Special:Diff/2509076|here]]). I'm just a guy who makes edits and has opinions. Unless I explicitly state "the staff has decided X" etc., I'm acting on my own and my opinion is no more important than anyone else's. I added a note to the top on [[User:SnorlaxMonster|my userpage]] a while back to try to clarify this. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:34, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

== Where's your consistency? ==

Recently I made the edit that poison is the most common pairing with grass. Later, you reverted my edit, saying that it was obvious. Well, why didn't you revert the edit that fire has no pairing? You could easily look at the list and see that as well. All I'm asking is: why did you delete my edit but not the one it was attached to? [[User:Grass4Lyfe|Grass4Lyfe]] ([[User talk:Grass4Lyfe|talk]]) 18:15, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
:To see that Poison is the most common pairing with Grass, you simply have to glance at the list and maybe make ballpark estimates of a couple of numbers. To see that Fire is the only type not paired with Grass, you have to have a mental list going of all 18 types, and go down the list, checking off each one, until Fire is the only one missing. I hope you can see that this is a ''vast'' difference in "obvious"ness. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:54, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
::Coudln't I have at least had the number of pairings still there? That's the most important thing. Plus, it's just a small trivia fact. I really just wanted to add the exact number of grass/poison matchups. It would take a log longer to count them than to just see it's the most common, I know that. It would probably even take longer to count the number of grass/poison pokémon than find out that fire isn't a match. Sure, it would take a few seconds to find out that fire isn't matched, but it won't take forever. The color is red, so just look for red. Also, there aren't a whole lot of pairings to look through. My main point is that saying there are 0 fire matchups is fine, but saying how many posion ones there are is not okay is confusing. [[User:Grass4Lyfe|Grass4Lyfe]] ([[User talk:Grass4Lyfe|talk]]) 15:34, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
:::What are you confused about? I think my point was pretty clear. (And just to pre-emptively avoid a long discussion, in case you aren't aware, I'm not a {{bp|staff|staff member}} — I removed it because I thought it was unnecessary, but you don't have to persuade me to try to add it back. You can try to get a staff member to overrule me if you want.) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:41, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
::::Just hopping in, Grass4Lyfe which would be more noticeable and obvious without counting? A plethora of purple (Poison) or the lack of orange (Fire)?--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 17:09, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
:::::Just wanted to pop back in and say that the main reason I made that edit was to show the exact number of grass/Poison pokémon. It seemed like a small piece of trivia, so I added it to the trivia section. That is all. [[User:Grass4Lyfe|Grass4Lyfe]] ([[User talk:Grass4Lyfe|talk]]) 21:11, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

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== Your archive template ==

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:Thank you! Looks perfect now. :) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:51, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

== Re: Forme ==

Actually, the forme part was already there when I looked at it. All I did was capitalize the F since such capitalization seemed to be consistent where I was standing. I wasn't aware of any terminology rules or whatever. But anyway, it's cool. Do whatever you need to do. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:29, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

== RE: Official sources ==

Sorry about that, when you asked for a source I thought you meant a source for his name. I realized after that while his name was confirmed by the image I linked to, his relationship with Samuel Oak was not, and at the time I did not have a source for that. The various claims of Nariya being Oak's cousin come from this tweet by Famitsu: https://twitter.com/famitsu/status/773718769117990912

I'm not sure if they count as an offical source, so I'll leave that up to your discretion. [[User:Skyarrow|Skyarrow]] ([[User talk:Skyarrow|talk]]) 06:20, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

== Protection ==

May I ask, primarily out of interest, why you say that ''"Prerelease articles should not be editable by non-staff"''? Right now, I can understand how it makes sense to restrict access to some controversial articles or ones that have a history of being edited prematurely in some way (''"Speculation crackdown"''), but I wouldn't necessarily have derived a strict rule like that. (So, for example, I wouldn't have protected [[Lusamine]] in particular, as the article has basically only benefited from its non-protection.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 00:41, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
:Prerelease articles inherently, by virtue of being prerelease, will draw attention and speculation from people who are not familiar with Bulbapedia's policies. I think it's best to pre-empt that before it happens, and since the staff have been protecting things as requested, they clearly don't disagree. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:44, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
::Ok, thanks. So it's just two different philosophies, I guess; I might be a little naive, but I'd rather start off expecting improvement rather than a high likelihood of nonsense being added. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 00:55, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
:::Given that Bulbapedia entirely shuts down non-staff editing at the beginning of every generation so staff can update our pages without interference, I think that ship had sailed a solid decade ago. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 01:32, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
::::Future note, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Refrigerate_(Ability) we don't prefer doing it for ALL prerelease info], just pokémon. You do have to have faith in editors before getting PROTECTPROTECT trigger happy, and I don't agree protecting moves/abilities/people outright should be a thing until real issues arise. Please bear this in mind. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 01:54, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
:::::I can actually understand the non-staff edit lock better; I guess it's really hard to ensure that each of the many edits to move learn levels etc. is actually trustworthy. For prerelease articles, I guess staff (and also you and me) can just spot errors rather easily, then fix them. (And then protect them.) I was interested in your reasoning/opinion, especially seeing you're non-staff. While I agree with ArcToraphim, I at least know what you are (have been) thinking, so thanks again for that. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 02:10, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

== yveltal and the black death ==

I didn't base the black death analysis on color scheme or the fact it represents death. I don't know what has caused you to believe this. The black death aspect comes from the fact that it annihilated huge scores of humans and Pokémon with a roughly similar timescale and geological area as the real-world black death. Also, stating it has basis on the black death would be no different than stating the new alolan dance birds Oricorio are based off specific dance styles/practices. Pokémon are not singular, they are a multisided often Chimeric representation of multiple ideas, concepts and imaginings. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 09:11, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
:It just seems like a huge stretch to me. You can find similarities if you're really squinting, but you would think that if the plague outbreak was intended to be part of Yveltal's origin, it would either have the Poison type (to indicate the disease basis), some Poison moves in its level-up learnlist, or at least some visual connection to the {{wp|Danse Macabre}}, the most well-known symbolic representation of the plague. Yveltal doesn't have any of these. Also, note that it's a counterpart to Xerneas, which has no alleged parallel to anything like the plague; if the plague was meant to be Yveltal's basis, it would make sense for its counterpart to have a directly related or directly opposite basis, and Xerneas just plain doesn't. Origin sections are for the most likely origins, not every single tenuous connection that someone can dream up. The Yveltal-Black Death connection strongly seems like the latter to me. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:16, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
::So your reasoning that it can't be based off a historical event/plague is because its not a Poison-type? If you want to play types here, it is a dark type, that's just as close. Plus we have a virus based Pokemon, and it is not Poison-type, in fact it is Psychic-type which is strong against Poison-types. That would be like saying Rotom can't become a computer virus unless it becomes an electric/poison type. Poisons, Bacteria (such as that which caused the plague) and viruses work on separate levels. True some bacteria are considered poisonous (they produce toxins but are not by themselves toxic) but that is about it. Humans are not very reliable on their description on things. For godsakes, before West Nile and now Zika became the new hot topics/fear buttons, I saw little signs next to the bugspray section saying "Protect against mosquitoes that can carry the Malaria Virus" and I live in the US and it's been eradicated here for over half a century and is a parasitic one-cell organism, not a virus.

::And if you want Danse Macabre, look at the promotional Yveltal art of it flying over a burning city or this image from the M17 manga http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Yveltal_M17_manga.png that looks pretty Danse Macabre to me.

::I must ask why do you have such a problem with stating it may have origins in one of the most horrific events in european and asian history when you allowed it to keep the Wyvern origin despite not being even remotely similar in appearance, and the fact gen VI already had 2 Wyvern Pokemon, the evolution of which actually does look like a Wyvern. Bing search Wyvern and this shows up "A wyvern, sometimes spelled wivern, is a legendary winged creature with a dragon's head and wings; a reptilian body; two legs; and a tail." to turn a phrase here, you'd have to squint until your eyelids inverted to see any similarities there.

::As for Xerneas being the counterpart to disease, what more counterpart to disease can you get beyond immortality? As much as I wish it could have happened in the Twilight Saga, Edward and all his immortal sparkling vampire kin were in no danger of disease. In fact Edward was saved from the spanish flu by becoming immortal.

::By the way, the term Black Death or Black Plague is only recent. One thing it was originally called was '''<nowiki>'</nowiki>The Great Mortality<nowiki>'</nowiki>''' back when the plague was happening. Things were scary back then. There you are minding your own business, when suddenly you see the plague doctors in their bird-like mask roll into town and all you can think about is that imminent death has come knocking on your door to swift you away. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 03:38, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
:::I'm not going to try to discuss with a wall of text that big. Take it to a staff member if you want to continue arguing, please. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:43, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

== about the mew glitch and glicth city pages. ==

1. I was trying to say that the glitch can also be done on the virtual console re-release on the nintendon 3DS.

2.I was putting the glitch city laboratories.com articles in my own words and also I said Gameshark because, according to glitch city.com, Glitch city in generation II can only be accessed by using Gameshark.

3. are there any easy articles that I can edit to? because the only time my edit remained unchanged and the same and not removed was when I added the ISBN number for the Fire Pokémon Keychain Book for the Fire Pokémon (Pokémon Keychain Book) page. [[User:Awesomevenustoise101|Awesomevenustoise101]] ([[User talk:Awesomevenustoise101|talk]]) 14:52, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
:1. Since it's applicable to all [[core series]] Generation I games regardless of system, and since few (if any?) glitches were fixed for the re-release, I don't think it's necessary to specify that.
:2. It's probably best not to try to incorporate content from other websites, regardless of whether you've reworded it or not. Simply taking and rewording content from another website could still be seen as stealing their content. As for the GameShark, I think our glitch articles typically don't give much prominence to glitches that can only be performed with outside tools like the GameShark. Glitches that can happen in an unmodified game are our main focus.
:3. The {{bp|Editor's Hub}} has a lot of resources that can help you out. The [[:Category:Articles needing improvement|list of articles needing improvement]] is probably the closest thing to what you're looking for, but I strongly encourage you to take a glance at all of the resources in the Editor's Hub to see what helps you. Best wishes, and happy editing! [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:47, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

==Beldum==
Sooo, I kinda wanted to know why wouldn't it be a spacecraft. I mean, it sounds way more absurd to me a random levitating bullet/dumbbell. In fact, being a satellite/rocket/spacecraft explains why it is a Psychic Pokémon, once space-related are often treated as such.

If it is a Launcher vehicle it also explains why it only learns Take Down and Headbutt moves, suggesting how it only keeps going forward.
[[User:ExLight|ExLight]] ([[User talk:ExLight|talk]]) 13:53, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
:uuh, so you're just goin' to ignore me? Kinda disrespectful to remove what other users had written and not give 'em a proper explanation. Are you even a Staff member? [[User:ExLight|ExLight]] ([[User talk:ExLight|talk]]) 12:17, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
::No, I'm not a staff member, as you can clearly see on the {{bp|staff}} list. Didn't mean to ignore you, just set it aside for a better time and then forgot that it was there. Beldum's name in both English and Japanese is based on ''dumbbell'', meaning that is the most likely origin. (Thanks for pointing out the absurdity of the bullet one; I'll remove that, too.) I personally don't see much resemblance between Beldum and spacecraft beyond the vague shape, but if you'd like to ask an actual staff member for their opinion, feel free. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:08, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
:::The dumbbell might be a reference to "dumbbell" shaped satellites, despite not having such appearance. On the other hand, its Species (Iron Ball Pokémon) may suggest other shapped spacecrafts, especially on their final stage; and its back/hand sure looks like some rockety thing. We may debate until we both reach some conclusion, but otherwise I intend to re-edit it as a possible origin and leave it to judged by someone from the staff.
:::Thanks for your attention tho [[User:ExLight|ExLight]] ([[User talk:ExLight|talk]]) 21:10, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

== I Don't understand ==

I don't understand the problem with the trivia I added for Pokémon Diamond, Pearl and Platinum. Please explain. [[User:Awesomevenustoise101|Awesomevenustoise101]] ([[User talk:Awesomevenustoise101|talk]]) 18:32, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
:"Only" means something is the ''only'' one. Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum are three games. It's impossible for three things to be the ''only'' one. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:46, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
::Why can't I just re-word the trivia? [[User:Awesomevenustoise101|Awesomevenustoise101]] ([[User talk:Awesomevenustoise101|talk]]) 18:50, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
:::I mean, if you can find a way to make it notable, that's your prerogative, but it doesn't seem possible to me, nor important or interesting. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:04, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
::::I don't understand what it means if trivia is notable or not, sorry if these questions are bothering you. [[User:Awesomevenustoise101|Awesomevenustoise101]] ([[User talk:Awesomevenustoise101|talk]]) 19:08, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
:::::[[User:Force Fire/Trivia Policy]] and its subpages (accessible via the navbox at the bottom) will probably explain this better than I can. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:12, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

== My edits ==

I notice that you seem to hold my edits in high regard as "this is the way things have to be" (e.g. [[Special:Diff/2509076|here]]). I'm just a guy who makes edits and has opinions. Unless I explicitly state "the staff has decided X" etc., I'm acting on my own and my opinion is no more important than anyone else's. I added a note to the top on [[User:SnorlaxMonster|my userpage]] a while back to try to clarify this. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:34, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

== Where's your consistency? ==

Recently I made the edit that poison is the most common pairing with grass. Later, you reverted my edit, saying that it was obvious. Well, why didn't you revert the edit that fire has no pairing? You could easily look at the list and see that as well. All I'm asking is: why did you delete my edit but not the one it was attached to? [[User:Grass4Lyfe|Grass4Lyfe]] ([[User talk:Grass4Lyfe|talk]]) 18:15, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

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:Thank you! Looks perfect now. :) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:51, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

== Re: Forme ==

Actually, the forme part was already there when I looked at it. All I did was capitalize the F since such capitalization seemed to be consistent where I was standing. I wasn't aware of any terminology rules or whatever. But anyway, it's cool. Do whatever you need to do. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:29, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

== RE: Official sources ==

Sorry about that, when you asked for a source I thought you meant a source for his name. I realized after that while his name was confirmed by the image I linked to, his relationship with Samuel Oak was not, and at the time I did not have a source for that. The various claims of Nariya being Oak's cousin come from this tweet by Famitsu: https://twitter.com/famitsu/status/773718769117990912

I'm not sure if they count as an offical source, so I'll leave that up to your discretion. [[User:Skyarrow|Skyarrow]] ([[User talk:Skyarrow|talk]]) 06:20, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

== Protection ==

May I ask, primarily out of interest, why you say that ''"Prerelease articles should not be editable by non-staff"''? Right now, I can understand how it makes sense to restrict access to some controversial articles or ones that have a history of being edited prematurely in some way (''"Speculation crackdown"''), but I wouldn't necessarily have derived a strict rule like that. (So, for example, I wouldn't have protected [[Lusamine]] in particular, as the article has basically only benefited from its non-protection.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 00:41, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
:Prerelease articles inherently, by virtue of being prerelease, will draw attention and speculation from people who are not familiar with Bulbapedia's policies. I think it's best to pre-empt that before it happens, and since the staff have been protecting things as requested, they clearly don't disagree. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:44, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
::Ok, thanks. So it's just two different philosophies, I guess; I might be a little naive, but I'd rather start off expecting improvement rather than a high likelihood of nonsense being added. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 00:55, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
:::Given that Bulbapedia entirely shuts down non-staff editing at the beginning of every generation so staff can update our pages without interference, I think that ship had sailed a solid decade ago. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 01:32, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
::::Future note, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Refrigerate_(Ability) we don't prefer doing it for ALL prerelease info], just pokémon. You do have to have faith in editors before getting PROTECTPROTECT trigger happy, and I don't agree protecting moves/abilities/people outright should be a thing until real issues arise. Please bear this in mind. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 01:54, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
:::::I can actually understand the non-staff edit lock better; I guess it's really hard to ensure that each of the many edits to move learn levels etc. is actually trustworthy. For prerelease articles, I guess staff (and also you and me) can just spot errors rather easily, then fix them. (And then protect them.) I was interested in your reasoning/opinion, especially seeing you're non-staff. While I agree with ArcToraphim, I at least know what you are (have been) thinking, so thanks again for that. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 02:10, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

== yveltal and the black death ==

I didn't base the black death analysis on color scheme or the fact it represents death. I don't know what has caused you to believe this. The black death aspect comes from the fact that it annihilated huge scores of humans and Pokémon with a roughly similar timescale and geological area as the real-world black death. Also, stating it has basis on the black death would be no different than stating the new alolan dance birds Oricorio are based off specific dance styles/practices. Pokémon are not singular, they are a multisided often Chimeric representation of multiple ideas, concepts and imaginings. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 09:11, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
:It just seems like a huge stretch to me. You can find similarities if you're really squinting, but you would think that if the plague outbreak was intended to be part of Yveltal's origin, it would either have the Poison type (to indicate the disease basis), some Poison moves in its level-up learnlist, or at least some visual connection to the {{wp|Danse Macabre}}, the most well-known symbolic representation of the plague. Yveltal doesn't have any of these. Also, note that it's a counterpart to Xerneas, which has no alleged parallel to anything like the plague; if the plague was meant to be Yveltal's basis, it would make sense for its counterpart to have a directly related or directly opposite basis, and Xerneas just plain doesn't. Origin sections are for the most likely origins, not every single tenuous connection that someone can dream up. The Yveltal-Black Death connection strongly seems like the latter to me. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:16, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
::So your reasoning that it can't be based off a historical event/plague is because its not a Poison-type? If you want to play types here, it is a dark type, that's just as close. Plus we have a virus based Pokemon, and it is not Poison-type, in fact it is Psychic-type which is strong against Poison-types. That would be like saying Rotom can't become a computer virus unless it becomes an electric/poison type. Poisons, Bacteria (such as that which caused the plague) and viruses work on separate levels. True some bacteria are considered poisonous (they produce toxins but are not by themselves toxic) but that is about it. Humans are not very reliable on their description on things. For godsakes, before West Nile and now Zika became the new hot topics/fear buttons, I saw little signs next to the bugspray section saying "Protect against mosquitoes that can carry the Malaria Virus" and I live in the US and it's been eradicated here for over half a century and is a parasitic one-cell organism, not a virus.

::And if you want Danse Macabre, look at the promotional Yveltal art of it flying over a burning city or this image from the M17 manga http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Yveltal_M17_manga.png that looks pretty Danse Macabre to me.

::I must ask why do you have such a problem with stating it may have origins in one of the most horrific events in european and asian history when you allowed it to keep the Wyvern origin despite not being even remotely similar in appearance, and the fact gen VI already had 2 Wyvern Pokemon, the evolution of which actually does look like a Wyvern. Bing search Wyvern and this shows up "A wyvern, sometimes spelled wivern, is a legendary winged creature with a dragon's head and wings; a reptilian body; two legs; and a tail." to turn a phrase here, you'd have to squint until your eyelids inverted to see any similarities there.

::As for Xerneas being the counterpart to disease, what more counterpart to disease can you get beyond immortality? As much as I wish it could have happened in the Twilight Saga, Edward and all his immortal sparkling vampire kin were in no danger of disease. In fact Edward was saved from the spanish flu by becoming immortal.

::By the way, the term Black Death or Black Plague is only recent. One thing it was originally called was '''<nowiki>'</nowiki>The Great Mortality<nowiki>'</nowiki>''' back when the plague was happening. Things were scary back then. There you are minding your own business, when suddenly you see the plague doctors in their bird-like mask roll into town and all you can think about is that imminent death has come knocking on your door to swift you away. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 03:38, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
:::I'm not going to try to discuss with a wall of text that big. Take it to a staff member if you want to continue arguing, please. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:43, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

== about the mew glitch and glicth city pages. ==

1. I was trying to say that the glitch can also be done on the virtual console re-release on the nintendon 3DS.

2.I was putting the glitch city laboratories.com articles in my own words and also I said Gameshark because, according to glitch city.com, Glitch city in generation II can only be accessed by using Gameshark.

3. are there any easy articles that I can edit to? because the only time my edit remained unchanged and the same and not removed was when I added the ISBN number for the Fire Pokémon Keychain Book for the Fire Pokémon (Pokémon Keychain Book) page. [[User:Awesomevenustoise101|Awesomevenustoise101]] ([[User talk:Awesomevenustoise101|talk]]) 14:52, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
:1. Since it's applicable to all [[core series]] Generation I games regardless of system, and since few (if any?) glitches were fixed for the re-release, I don't think it's necessary to specify that.
:2. It's probably best not to try to incorporate content from other websites, regardless of whether you've reworded it or not. Simply taking and rewording content from another website could still be seen as stealing their content. As for the GameShark, I think our glitch articles typically don't give much prominence to glitches that can only be performed with outside tools like the GameShark. Glitches that can happen in an unmodified game are our main focus.
:3. The {{bp|Editor's Hub}} has a lot of resources that can help you out. The [[:Category:Articles needing improvement|list of articles needing improvement]] is probably the closest thing to what you're looking for, but I strongly encourage you to take a glance at all of the resources in the Editor's Hub to see what helps you. Best wishes, and happy editing! [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:47, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

==Beldum==
Sooo, I kinda wanted to know why wouldn't it be a spacecraft. I mean, it sounds way more absurd to me a random levitating bullet/dumbbell. In fact, being a satellite/rocket/spacecraft explains why it is a Psychic Pokémon, once space-related are often treated as such.

If it is a Launcher vehicle it also explains why it only learns Take Down and Headbutt moves, suggesting how it only keeps going forward.
[[User:ExLight|ExLight]] ([[User talk:ExLight|talk]]) 13:53, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
:uuh, so you're just goin' to ignore me? Kinda disrespectful to remove what other users had written and not give 'em a proper explanation. Are you even a Staff member? [[User:ExLight|ExLight]] ([[User talk:ExLight|talk]]) 12:17, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
::No, I'm not a staff member, as you can clearly see on the {{bp|staff}} list. Didn't mean to ignore you, just set it aside for a better time and then forgot that it was there. Beldum's name in both English and Japanese is based on ''dumbbell'', meaning that is the most likely origin. (Thanks for pointing out the absurdity of the bullet one; I'll remove that, too.) I personally don't see much resemblance between Beldum and spacecraft beyond the vague shape, but if you'd like to ask an actual staff member for their opinion, feel free. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:08, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
:::The dumbbell might be a reference to "dumbbell" shaped satellites, despite not having such appearance. On the other hand, its Species (Iron Ball Pokémon) may suggest other shapped spacecrafts, especially on their final stage; and its back/hand sure looks like some rockety thing. We may debate until we both reach some conclusion, but otherwise I intend to re-edit it as a possible origin and leave it to judged by someone from the staff.
:::Thanks for your attention tho [[User:ExLight|ExLight]] ([[User talk:ExLight|talk]]) 21:10, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

== I Don't understand ==

I don't understand the problem with the trivia I added for Pokémon Diamond, Pearl and Platinum. Please explain. [[User:Awesomevenustoise101|Awesomevenustoise101]] ([[User talk:Awesomevenustoise101|talk]]) 18:32, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
:"Only" means something is the ''only'' one. Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum are three games. It's impossible for three things to be the ''only'' one. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:46, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
::Why can't I just re-word the trivia? [[User:Awesomevenustoise101|Awesomevenustoise101]] ([[User talk:Awesomevenustoise101|talk]]) 18:50, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
:::I mean, if you can find a way to make it notable, that's your prerogative, but it doesn't seem possible to me, nor important or interesting. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:04, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
::::I don't understand what it means if trivia is notable or not, sorry if these questions are bothering you. [[User:Awesomevenustoise101|Awesomevenustoise101]] ([[User talk:Awesomevenustoise101|talk]]) 19:08, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
:::::[[User:Force Fire/Trivia Policy]] and its subpages (accessible via the navbox at the bottom) will probably explain this better than I can. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:12, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

== My edits ==

I notice that you seem to hold my edits in high regard as "this is the way things have to be" (e.g. [[Special:Diff/2509076|here]]). I'm just a guy who makes edits and has opinions. Unless I explicitly state "the staff has decided X" etc., I'm acting on my own and my opinion is no more important than anyone else's. I added a note to the top on [[User:SnorlaxMonster|my userpage]] a while back to try to clarify this. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:34, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

== Where's your consistency? ==

Recently I made the edit that poison is the most common pairing with grass. Later, you reverted my edit, saying that it was obvious. Well, why didn't you revert the edit that fire has no pairing? You could easily look at the list and see that as well. All I'm asking is: why did you delete my edit but not the one it was attached to?

Grass (type)

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{{types}}
The '''Grass type''' (Japanese: '''くさタイプ''' ''Grass type'') is one of the eighteen [[type]]s. Notable Trainers who specialize in Grass-type Pokémon are the [[Gym Leader]]s [[Erika]] of [[Celadon City]], [[Gardenia]] of [[Eterna City]], [[Cilan]], former Gym Leader of [[Striaton City]], and [[Ramos]] of [[Coumarine City]]. Prior to [[Generation IV#Advances in gameplay|changes in Generation IV]], all damaging Grass-type moves were [[special move|special]], but they may now also be [[physical move|physical]] depending on the attack.

==Statistical averages==
===Overall===
{{BaseStatNoCat|
type=grass|
HP=66.05 |
Attack=73.46 |
Defense=73.25 |
SpAtk=72.94 |
SpDef=71.51 |
Speed=60.72 |
Total=417.93 }}

===Fully evolved===
{{BaseStatNoCat|
type=grass|
HP=79.56 |
Attack=90.69 |
Defense=87.52 |
SpAtk=89.08 |
SpDef=84.77 |
Speed=73.94 |
Total=505.56 }}


==Battle properties==
===Generation I===
{{typebattle
|type=Grass
|weakto1=Bug
|weakto2=Fire
|weakto3=Flying
|weakto4=Ice
|weakto5=Poison
|resist1=Electric
|resist2=Grass
|resist3=Ground
|resist4=Water
|weaken1=Ground
|weaken2=Rock
|weaken3=Water
|resisted1=Bug
|resisted2=Dragon
|resisted3=Fire
|resisted4=Flying
|resisted5=Grass
|resisted6=Poison
}}

===Generation II onwards===
Starting in [[Generation VI]], Grass-type Pokémon are immune to {{cat|powder and spore moves}} and {{a|Effect Spore}}.

{{typebattle
|type=Grass
|weakto1=Bug
|weakto2=Fire
|weakto3=Flying
|weakto4=Ice
|weakto5=Poison
|resist1=Electric
|resist2=Grass
|resist3=Ground
|resist4=Water
|weaken1=Ground
|weaken2=Rock
|weaken3=Water
|resisted1=Bug
|resisted2=Dragon
|resisted3=Fire
|resisted4=Flying
|resisted5=Grass
|resisted6=Poison
|resisted7=Steel
}}

==Characteristics==
===Defense===
Defensively, Grass types have both good and bad points. While they have key resistances to {{t|Water}}, {{t|Ground}}, and {{t|Electric}}, they are tied with {{t|Rock}} in having the most weaknesses out of all types with five, although only {{t|Ice}}, {{t|Fire}}, and {{t|Flying}} are commonly used offensively. Additionally, most Grass types have well-balanced defensive stats, and two of their weaknesses have poor offensive stats on average. On the other hand, many Grass types also have double weaknesses, with some having two.

Since [[Generation I]], a particular asset of Grass types is being the only type that is immune to {{m|Leech Seed}}. As of [[Generation VI]], Grass-type Pokémon are also immune to {{cat|Powder and spore moves}}, such as {{m|Sleep Powder}} and {{m|Spore}}, as well as {{a|Effect Spore}}. As these moves are mostly learned by Grass types, this enables them to provide support to the rest of their team and can make them difficult to defeat. Because of this, Grass types are often switched into each other.

Grass-type Pokémon are categorically more affected by [[weather]] than other types. They gain both positive and negative benefits under the two common weather conditions; {{weather|harsh sunlight}} empowers {{m|Solar Beam}}, {{m|Synthesis}} and {{m|Growth}} but also empowers {{t|Fire}}, whereas {{weather|rain}} weakens Fire but also weakens Solar Beam and Synthesis, and makes the dangerous {{m|Hurricane}} incapable of missing. Grass-types also have [[Ability|Abilities]] relating to the weather more often than other types.

===Offense===
Although they can {{DL|Damage modification|super effective|super-effective}}ly handle {{t|Water}}, {{t|Ground}}, and {{t|Rock}} Pokémon, Grass types have several disadvantages. As Grass-type attacks are resisted by seven types, double resistances to Grass are common, although so are double weaknesses.

Most Grass-type attacks are not very powerful or have severe drawbacks prior to [[Generation IV]], and the majority of Grass types have narrow attacking coverage, traditionally playing more of a supportive role with {{m|Leech Seed}} and {{m|Spore}}. Despite this, a majority of Grass types have above-average {{stat|Attack}} or {{stat|Special Attack}}, and Grass types deal 4× super effective damage to more Pokémon than any other type.

===Contest properties===
In {{pkmn|Contest}}s, Grass-type moves are typically {{OBP|Clever|condition}} moves, but can also be any of the other four Contest types.

==Pokémon==
As of Generation VI, there are 85 Grass-type Pokémon or 11.8% of all Pokémon (counting those that are Grass-type in at least one of their [[List of Pokémon with form differences|forms]], including [[Mega Evolution]]s), making it the fourth most common type.

===Pure Grass-type Pokémon===
{| {| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background:#{{grass color light}}; border:5px solid #{{grass color}}"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="sortable" style="margin:auto; background:#FFF; border:1px solid #{{grass color light}}; border-collapse:collapse"
|- style="background:#{{grass color light}}"
! #
!
! Name
|-
|114
|{{MSP|114|Tangela}}
|{{p|Tangela}}
|-
|152
|{{MSP|152|Chikorita}}
|{{p|Chikorita}}
|-
|153
|{{MSP|153|Bayleef}}
|{{p|Bayleef}}
|-
|154
|{{MSP|154|Meganium}}
|{{p|Meganium}}
|-
|182
|{{MSP|182|Bellossom}}
|{{p|Bellossom}}
|-
|191
|{{MSP|191|Sunkern}}
|{{p|Sunkern}}
|-
|192
|{{MSP|192|Sunflora}}
|{{p|Sunflora}}
|-
|252
|{{MSP|252|Treecko}}
|{{p|Treecko}}
|-
|253
|{{MSP|253|Grovyle}}
|{{p|Grovyle}}
|-
|254
|{{MSP|254|Sceptile}}
|{{p|Sceptile}}
|-
|273
|{{MSP|273|Seedot}}
|{{p|Seedot}}
|-
|285
|{{MSP|285|Shroomish}}
|{{p|Shroomish}}
|-
|331
|{{MSP|331|Cacnea}}
|{{p|Cacnea}}
|-
|387
|{{MSP|387|Turtwig}}
|{{p|Turtwig}}
|-
|388
|{{MSP|388|Grotle}}
|{{p|Grotle}}
|-
|420
|{{MSP|420|Cherubi}}
|{{p|Cherubi}}
|-
|421
|{{MSP|421|Cherrim}}
|{{p|Cherrim}}
|-
|455
|{{MSP|455|Carnivine}}
|{{p|Carnivine}}
|-
|465
|{{MSP|465|Tangrowth}}
|{{p|Tangrowth}}
|-
|470
|{{MSP|470|Leafeon}}
|{{p|Leafeon}}
|-
|492
|{{MSP|492|Shaymin}}
|{{p|Shaymin}} [[List of Pokémon with form differences#Shaymin|Land Forme]]
|-
|495
|{{MSP|495|Snivy}}
|{{p|Snivy}}
|-
|496
|{{MSP|496|Servine}}
|{{p|Servine}}
|-
|497
|{{MSP|497|Serperior}}
|{{p|Serperior}}
|-
|511
|{{MSP|511|Pansage}}
|{{p|Pansage}}
|-
|512
|{{MSP|512|Simisage}}
|{{p|Simisage}}
|-
|548
|{{MSP|548|Petilil}}
|{{p|Petilil}}
|-
|549
|{{MSP|549|Lilligant}}
|{{p|Lilligant}}
|-
|556
|{{MSP|556|Maractus}}
|{{p|Maractus}}
|-
|650
|{{MSP|650|Chespin}}
|{{p|Chespin}}
|-
|651
|{{MSP|651|Quilladin}}
|{{p|Quilladin}}
|-
|672
|{{MSP|672|Skiddo}}
|{{p|Skiddo}}
|-
|673
|{{MSP|673|Gogoat}}
|{{p|Gogoat}}
|-
| ???
|{{MSP|???|Bounsweet}}
|{{p|Bounsweet}}
|-
| ???
|{{MSP|???|Fomantis}}
|{{p|Fomantis}}
|-
| ???
|{{MSP|???|Lurantis}}
|{{p|Lurantis}}
|}
|}

====Pokéstar Studios opponents====
{| {| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background:#{{grass color light}}; border:5px solid #{{grass color}}"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="unsortable" style="margin:auto; background:#FFF; border:1px solid #{{grass color light}}; border-collapse:collapse"
|- style="background:#{{grass color light}}"
! #
!
! Name
|-
|N/A
|{{MSP|000|Black Door}}
|{{p|Black Door}}
|}
|}

===Half Grass-type Pokémon===
====Primary Grass-type Pokémon====
{| {| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background:#{{grass color light}}; border:5px solid #{{grass color}}"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="sortable" style="margin:auto; background:#FFF; border:1px solid #{{grass color light}}; border-collapse:collapse"
|- style="background:#{{grass color light}}"
! #
!
! Name
! Type 1
! Type 2
|-
|001
|{{MSP|001|Bulbasaur}}
|{{p|Bulbasaur}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|002
|{{MSP|002|Ivysaur}}
|{{p|Ivysaur}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
| rowspan="2" |003
|{{MSP|003|Venusaur}}
|{{p|Venusaur}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|{{MSP|003M|Venusaur}}
|{{p|Venusaur|Mega Venusaur}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|043
|{{MSP|043|Oddish}}
|{{p|Oddish}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|044
|{{MSP|044|Gloom}}
|{{p|Gloom}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|045
|{{MSP|045|Vileplume}}
|{{p|Vileplume}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|069
|{{MSP|069|Bellsprout}}
|{{p|Bellsprout}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|070
|{{MSP|070|Weepinbell}}
|{{p|Weepinbell}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|071
|{{MSP|071|Victreebel}}
|{{p|Victreebel}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|102
|{{MSP|102|Exeggcute}}
|{{p|Exeggcute}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
| rowspan="2" |103
|{{MSP|103|Exeggutor}}
|{{p|Exeggutor}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
|{{MSP|103A|Exeggutor}}
|{{p|Exeggutor}} Alola Form
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|-
|187
|{{MSP|187|Hoppip}}
|{{p|Hoppip}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|188
|{{MSP|188|Skiploom}}
|{{p|Skiploom}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|189
|{{MSP|189|Jumpluff}}
|{{p|Jumpluff}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|254
|{{MSP|254M|Sceptile}}
|{{p|Sceptile|Mega Sceptile}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|-
|274
|{{MSP|274|Nuzleaf}}
|{{p|Nuzleaf}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
|-
|275
|{{MSP|275|Shiftry}}
|{{p|Shiftry}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
|-
|286
|{{MSP|286|Breloom}}
|{{p|Breloom}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|315
|{{MSP|315|Roselia}}
|{{p|Roselia}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|332
|{{MSP|332|Cacturne}}
|{{p|Cacturne}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
|-
|357
|{{MSP|357|Tropius}}
|{{p|Tropius}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|389
|{{MSP|389|Torterra}}
|{{p|Torterra}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|406
|{{MSP|406|Budew}}
|{{p|Budew}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|407
|{{MSP|407|Roserade}}
|{{p|Roserade}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|459
|{{MSP|459|Snover}}
|{{p|Snover}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
| rowspan="2" |460
|{{MSP|460|Abomasnow}}
|{{p|Abomasnow}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
|{{MSP|460M|Abomasnow}}
|{{p|Abomasnow|Mega Abomasnow}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
|492
|{{MSP|492S|Shaymin}}
|{{p|Shaymin}} [[List of Pokémon with form differences#Shaymin|Sky Forme]]
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|546
|{{MSP|546|Cottonee}}
|{{p|Cottonee}}{{tt|*|Pure Grass-type prior to Generation VI}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Fairy}}
|-
|547
|{{MSP|547|Whimsicott}}
|{{p|Whimsicott}}{{tt|*|Pure Grass-type prior to Generation VI}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Fairy}}
|-
|590
|{{MSP|590|Foongus}}
|{{p|Foongus}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|591
|{{MSP|591|Amoonguss}}
|{{p|Amoonguss}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|597
|{{MSP|597|Ferroseed}}
|{{p|Ferroseed}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
|-
|598
|{{MSP|598|Ferrothorn}}
|{{p|Ferrothorn}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
|-
|640
|{{MSP|640|Virizion}}
|{{p|Virizion}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|652
|{{MSP|652|Chesnaught}}
|{{p|Chesnaught}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|722
|{{MSP|722|Rowlet}}
|{{p|Rowlet}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|???
|{{MSP|???|Morelull}}
|{{p|Morelull}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Fairy}}
|}
|}

====Secondary Grass-type Pokémon====
{| {| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background:#{{grass color light}}; border:5px solid #{{grass color}}"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="sortable" style="margin:auto; background:#FFF; border:1px solid #{{grass color light}}; border-collapse:collapse"
|- style="background:#{{grass color light}}"
! #
!
! Name
! Type 1
! Type 2
|-
|046
|{{MSP|046|Paras}}
|{{p|Paras}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
|047
|{{MSP|047|Parasect}}
|{{p|Parasect}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
|251
|{{MSP|251|Celebi}}
|{{p|Celebi}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
|270
|{{MSP|270|Lotad}}
|{{p|Lotad}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
|271
|{{MSP|271|Lombre}}
|{{p|Lombre}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
|272
|{{MSP|272|Ludicolo}}
|{{p|Ludicolo}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
|345
|{{MSP|345|Lileep}}
|{{p|Lileep}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
|346
|{{MSP|346|Cradily}}
|{{p|Cradily}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
|413
|{{MSP|413|Wormadam}}
|{{p|Wormadam}} [[List of Pokémon with form differences#Burmy and Wormadam|Plant Cloak]]
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
|479
|{{MSP|479L|Rotom}}
|{{p|Rotom|Mow Rotom}}{{tt|*|Electric/Ghost-type in Generation IV}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
|540
|{{MSP|540|Sewaddle}}
|{{p|Sewaddle}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
|541
|{{MSP|541|Swadloon}}
|{{p|Swadloon}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
|542
|{{MSP|542|Leavanny}}
|{{p|Leavanny}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
|585
|{{MSP|585{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|February|June|October=S|March|July|November=A|April|August|December=W}}|Deerling}}
|{{p|Deerling}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
|586
|{{MSP|586{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|February|June|October=S|March|July|November=A|April|August|December=W}}|Sawsbuck}}
|{{p|Sawsbuck}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
|708
|{{MSP|708|Phantump}}
|{{p|Phantump}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
|709
|{{MSP|709|Trevenant}}
|{{p|Trevenant}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
|710
|{{MSP|710|Pumpkaboo}}
|{{p|Pumpkaboo}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|-
|711
|{{MSP|711|Gourgeist}}
|{{p|Gourgeist}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
|}
|}

==Moves==
{{movelist/battle-head|Grass}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Absorb|Special|Clever|20|100|25|anyadjacent|A nutrient-draining attack. The user's HP is restored by half the damage taken by the target.}}
{{movelist/battle|3|Aromatherapy|Status|Clever|—|—|5|team|The user releases a soothing scent that heals all status problems affecting the user's party.}}
{{movelist/battle|3|Bullet Seed|Physical|Cool|25|100|30|anyadjacent|The user forcefully shoots seeds at the target. Two to five seeds are shot in rapid succession.}}
{{movelist/battle|5|Cotton Guard|Status|Cute|—|—|10|self|The user protects itself by wrapping its body in soft cotton, drastically raising the user's Defense stat.}}
{{movelist/battle|2|Cotton Spore|Status|Beautiful|—|100|40|adjacentfoes|The user releases cotton-like spores that cling to the opposing Pokémon, which harshly lowers their Speed stats.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Energy Ball|Special|Beautiful|90|100|10|anyadjacent|The user draws power from nature and fires it at the target. It may also lower the target's Sp. Def.}}
{{movelist/battle|6|Forest's Curse|Status|Clever|—|—|20|anyadjacent|The user puts a forest curse on the target. Afflicted targets are now Grass type as well.}}
{{movelist/battle|3|Frenzy Plant|Special|Cool|150|90|5|anyadjacent|The user slams the target with an enormous tree. The user can't move on the next turn.}}
{{movelist/battle|2|Giga Drain|Special|Clever|75|100|10|anyadjacent|A nutrient-draining attack. The user's HP is restored by half the damage taken by the target.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Grass Knot|Special|Clever|Varies|100|20|anyadjacent|The user snares the target with grass and trips it. The heavier the target, the greater the damage.}}
{{movelist/battle|5|Grass Pledge|Special|Beautiful|80|100|10|anyadjacent|A column of grass hits opposing Pokémon. When used with its water equivalent, its damage increases into a vast swamp.}}
{{movelist/battle|3|Grass Whistle|Status|Clever|—|55|15|anyadjacent|The user plays a pleasant melody that lulls the target into a deep sleep.}}
{{movelist/battle|6|Grassy Terrain|Status|Beautiful|—|—|10|anyadjacent|The user turns the ground under everyone's feet to grass for five turns. This restores the HP of Pokémon on the ground a little every turn.}}
{{movelist/battle|5|Horn Leech|Physical|Tough|75|100|10|anyadjacent|The user drains the target's energy with its horns. The user's HP is restored by half the damage taken by the target.}}
{{movelist/battle|3|Ingrain|Status|Clever|—|—|20|self|The user lays roots that restore its HP on every turn. Because it is rooted, it can't switch out.}}
{{movelist/battle|3|Leaf Blade|Physical|Cool|90|100|15|anyadjacent|The user handles a sharp leaf like a sword and attacks by cutting its target. Critical hits land more easily.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Leaf Storm|Special|Beautiful|130|90|5|anyadjacent|The user whips up a storm of leaves around the target. The attack's recoil harshly reduces the user's Sp. Atk stat.}}
{{movelist/battle|5|Leaf Tornado|Special|Cool|65|90|10|anyadjacent|The user attacks its target by encircling it in sharp leaves. This attack may also lower the foe's accuracy.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Leech Seed|Status|Clever|—|90|10|anyadjacent|A seed is planted on the target. It steals some HP from the target every turn.}}
{{movelist/battle|3|Magical Leaf|Special|Beautiful|60|—|20|anyadjacent|The user scatters curious leaves that chase the target. This attack will not miss.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Mega Drain|Special|Clever|40|100|15|anyadjacent|A nutrient-draining attack. The user's HP is restored by half the damage taken by the target.}}
{{movelist/battle|3|Needle Arm|Physical|Clever|60|100|15|anyadjacent|The user attacks by wildly swinging its thorny arms. It may also make the target flinch.}}
{{movelist/battle|6|Petal Blizzard|Physical|Beautiful|90|100|15|alladjacent|The user stirs up a violent petal blizzard and attacks everything around it.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Petal Dance|Special|Beautiful|120|100|10|self|The user attacks the target by scattering petals for two to three turns. The user then becomes confused.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Power Whip|Physical|Beautiful|120|85|10|anyadjacent|The user violently whirls its vines or tentacles to harshly lash the target.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Razor Leaf|Physical|Cool|55|95|25|adjacentfoes|Sharp-edged leaves are launched to slash at the opposing team. Critical hits land more easily.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Seed Bomb|Physical|Clever|80|100|15|anyadjacent|The user slams a barrage of hard-shelled seeds down on the target from above.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Seed Flare|Special|Cool|120|85|5|anyadjacent|The user emits a shock wave from its body to attack its target. It may harshly lower the target's Sp. Def.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Sleep Powder|Status|Clever|—|75|15|anyadjacent|The user scatters a big cloud of sleep-inducing dust around the target.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Solar Beam|Special|Cool|120|100|10|anyadjacent|A two-turn attack. The user gathers light, then blasts a bundled beam on the second turn.}}
{{movelist/battle|6|Spiky Shield|Status|Tough|—|100|15|self|In addition to protecting the user from attacks, this move also damages any attacker who makes direct contact.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Spore|Status|Clever|—|100|15|anyadjacent|The user scatters bursts of spores that induce sleep.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Stun Spore|Status|Clever|—|75|30|anyadjacent|The user scatters a cloud of paralyzing powder. It may leave the target with paralysis.}}
{{movelist/battle|2|Synthesis|Status|Clever|—|—|5|self|The user restores its own HP. The amount of HP regained varies with the weather.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Vine Whip|Physical|Cool|45|100|25|anyadjacent|The target is struck with slender, whiplike vines to inflict damage.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Wood Hammer|Physical|Tough|120|100|15|anyadjacent|The user slams its rugged body into the target to attack. The user also sustains serious damage.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Worry Seed|Status|Beautiful|—|100|10|anyadjacent|A seed that causes worry is planted on the target. It prevents sleep by making its Ability Insomnia.}}
{{movelist/battle-foot|Grass}}

==Abilities==
===Interacting with the Grass type===
A Pokémon with {{a|Color Change}}, {{a|Protean}}, {{a|Imposter}}, or {{a|Multitype}} will become a Grass-type Pokémon if (respectively) it is hit with a Grass-type move, uses a Grass-type move, is sent out against a Grass-type opponent, or is holding a {{DL|Plate|Meadow Plate}}.

Since Generation VI, Grass-type Pokémon are also immune to {{a|Effect Spore}}.

{| width="70%" class="roundy sortable" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{grass color}}; border:2px solid #{{grass color dark}}"
|-
! style="background:#{{grass color light}}; {{roundytl|8px}}" | Gen
! style="background:#{{grass color light}}" | Ability
! style="background:#{{grass color light}}; {{roundytr|8px}}" class="unsortable" | Description
|-
! width="30px" style="background:#{{kalos color}}; border:1px solid #{{kalos color dark}}" | VI
| width="100px" style="background:#FFF; border:1px solid #D8D8D8" | {{acolor|Flower Veil|000}}
| style="background:#FFF; border:1px solid #D8D8D8; text-align:left" | Prevents lowering of ally Grass-type Pokémon's stats.
|-
! width="30px" style="background:#{{Hoenn color}}; border:1px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}" | III
| width="100px" style="background:#FFF; border:1px solid #D8D8D8" | {{acolor|Overgrow|000}}
| style="background:#FFF; border:1px solid #D8D8D8; text-align:left" | Powers up Grass-type moves when the Pokémon is in trouble.
|-
! width="30px" style="background:#{{unova color}}; border:1px solid #{{unova color dark}}" | V
| width="100px" style="background:#FFF; border:1px solid #D8D8D8" | {{acolor|Sap Sipper|000}}
| style="background:#FFF; border:1px solid #D8D8D8; text-align:left" | Boosts the Attack stat when hit by a Grass-type move.
|-
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{grass color light}}; {{roundybottom|8px}}" |All details are accurate to Generation VI games. For details that have changed between generations, please see an individual Ability's page.
|}

===Exclusive Abilities===
Only Grass-type Pokémon can have these Abilities. This does not include [[Signature Ability|signature Abilities]].
{| width="70%" class="roundy sortable" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{grass color}}; border:2px solid #{{grass color dark}}"
|-
! style="background:#{{grass color light}}; {{roundytl|8px}}" | Gen
! style="background:#{{grass color light}}" | Ability
! style="background:#{{grass color light}}; {{roundytr|8px}}" class="unsortable" | Description
|-
! width="30px" style="background:#{{hoenn color}}; border:1px solid #{{hoenn color dark}}" | III
| width="100px" style="background:#FFF; border:1px solid #D8D8D8" | {{acolor|Chlorophyll|000}}
| style="background:#FFF; border:1px solid #D8D8D8; text-align:left" | Boosts the Pokémon's Speed stat in sunshine.
|-
! width="30px" style="background:#{{hoenn color}}; border:1px solid #{{hoenn color dark}}" | III
| width="100px" style="background:#FFF; border:1px solid #D8D8D8" | {{acolor|Effect Spore|000}}
| style="background:#FFF; border:1px solid #D8D8D8; text-align:left" | Contact may poison or cause paralysis or sleep.
|-
! width="30px" style="background:#{{unova color}}; border:1px solid #{{unova color dark}}" | V
| width="100px" style="background:#FFF; border:1px solid #D8D8D8" | {{acolor|Harvest|000}}
| style="background:#FFF; border:1px solid #D8D8D8; text-align:left" | May create another Berry after one is used.
|-
! width="30px" style="background:#{{sinnoh color}}; border:1px solid #{{sinnoh color dark}}" | IV
| width="100px" style="background:#FFF; border:1px solid #D8D8D8" | {{acolor|Leaf Guard|000}}
| style="background:#FFF; border:1px solid #D8D8D8; text-align:left" | Prevents status conditions in sunny weather.
|-
! width="30px" style="background:#{{Hoenn color}}; border:1px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}" | III
| width="100px" style="background:#FFF; border:1px solid #D8D8D8" | {{acolor|Overgrow|000}}
| style="background:#FFF; border:1px solid #D8D8D8; text-align:left" | Powers up Grass-type moves when the Pokémon is in trouble.
|-
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{grass color light}}; {{roundybottom|8px}}" |All details are accurate to Generation VI games. For details that have changed between generations, please see an individual Ability's page.
|}

==Trivia==
* [[Generation V]] introduced the most Grass-type Pokémon of any generation, with 21 (including Rotom's Mow form), and Generation VI introduced the fewest Grass-type Pokémon, with nine.
* [[Generation I]] introduced the most Grass-type moves of any generation, with 10, and [[Generation II]] introduced the fewest Grass-type moves, with three.
* The Grass type and/or Pokémon of the type have been referred to using the term "plant" instead on some occasions:
** In the English Generation I games, the [[Gym guide]] in [[Cerulean Gym]] refers to Pokémon of the Grass type as "plant Pokémon". In the English versions of {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, he instead mentions "Grass-type Pokémon". In the Japanese versions of the Generation I games and FireRed and LeafGreen, he mentions the Grass type itself, calling it the "Plant type" (Japanese: しょくぶつタイプ).
** Another reference to "plant Pokémon" (Japanese: しょくぶつポケモン) is made by [[Professor Oak]] in the Japanese {{game2|Red|Green|Blue}}, and international {{game|Red and Blue|s}}, classifying {{p|Bulbasaur}} as such when the {{player}} is about to choose it as their {{pkmn2|starter}}. This is also the case in the Japanese versions of {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}; in contrast, he calls it the "grass Pokémon" in the English versions.
*** This same reference is also used in the [[PO01|first episode]] of [[Pokémon Origins]].
* The Grass type has the most Pokémon that evolve by [[evolutionary stone]]s, with a total of 11. It is also the type that can utilize the most stones, having at least one Pokémon that can evolve via the {{evostone|Leaf Stone}}, {{evostone|Sun Stone}}, {{evostone|Water Stone}}, and {{evostone|Shiny Stone}}.
* There are 28 Pokémon with a double weakness to Grass, more than any other type.
** Moreover, in all generations Grass was the most common double weakness, with the exception of [[Generation I]] where the {{t|Bug}} type had one more Pokémon with a double weakness to it.
** However, Grass is also the most doubly resisted type.
* The Grass type has been paired with every other type except for the Fire type.
**Poison is the most common pairing with grass, having 15 Grass/Poison pairings overall.
* Grass is the only type to have more than one {{cat|HP-draining moves|HP-draining move}}, having five of them.

==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{grass color}}|bordercolor={{grass color light}}
|ja=くさ (草) ''Kusa''
|bg=Растителни ''Rastitelni''
|zh_yue=草 ''{{tt|Chóu|Grass}}''
|zh_cmn=草 ''{{tt|Cǎo|Grass}}''
|cs=Travní
|da=Græs
|nl=Gras
|fi=Ruoho
|fr=Plante
|de=Pflanze
|el=Φυτού ''Fitoú''
|he=עשב ''Esev''
|hu=Fű
|id=Tanaman
|it=Erba
|ko=풀 ''Pul''
|no=Gress
|pl=Trawiasty
|pt_br=Planta Grama
|pt_eu=Erva
|ro=Iarbă
|ru=Трава ''Trava''
|es_la=Hierba
|es_eu=Planta
|sv=Gräs
|th=พืช ''Phụ̄ch'' หญ้า ''H̄ỵ̂ā''
|vi=Cỏ
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[[de:Pflanze (Typ)]]
[[fr:Plante]]
[[it:Erba (tipo)]]
[[ja:くさ]]
[[pl:Pokémony trawiaste]]
[[zh:草（属性）]]

Regigigas (Pokémon)

2016-09-27T20:53:36Z

Grass4Lyfe: Added a section about Regigigas's cry in the movies to the trivia section

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'''Regigigas''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''レジギガス''' ''Regigigas'') is a {{type|Normal}} [[Legendary Pokémon]].

It is not known to [[Evolution|evolve]] into or from any other Pokémon.

It comes to life only when {{p|Regirock}}, {{p|Regice}}, and {{p|Registeel}} are gathered. Therefore, it requires the three to be in the player's [[party]] to awaken it within the [[Snowpoint Temple]], [[Twist Mountain]], or [[Island Cave]], where it sleeps. In the first two locations, it will still be present if those Pokémon are absent, but it does not awaken and only seems to be a statue to the player.

It is the [[trio master]] of [[Hoenn]]'s [[Legendary titans]].

==Biology==
[[File:Regigigas orb.png|thumb|left|250px|Regigigas in its slumber]]
Regigigas is a large, white, golem-like Pokémon with seven black circular "eyes" arranged in a specific pattern. The pattern is Regigigas's way of showing its anger; its eyes glow red when it is provoked. It has six spots that are apart from its eyes, which appear to be gemstones. These gemstones seem to represent the other three Regis, with red gems representing {{p|Regirock}}, blue gems indicating {{p|Regice}}, and silver gems representing {{p|Registeel}}. It has long arms, with three fairly human-like white fingers, and short legs that end in large mossy bushes instead of feet. Regigigas has large yellow bands on its shoulders and wrists, with a sloping section on its chest that appears to be its head and is also yellow. Its body is covered in black stripes, and it has moss growing in its back and feet. According to Sinnoh legend, Regigigas's strength enables it to move continents.

Regigigas is a skilled craftsman. It created golems out of inanimate objects and brought them to life. Regigigas is also capable of controlling these [[Legendary titans]], even if they already belong to a {{pkmn|Trainer}}. It can also survive extreme conditions as it is able to work with the boiling temperatures of magma (1300-2400 °F [700-1300 °C]) as well as frigid ice (-328 °F [-200 °C]). When Regigigas is disturbed from its slumber, it goes on a rampage and shoots powerful beams of energy. When it is befriended, however, it is calm and gentle, as seen in ''[[DP129|Pillars of Friendship!]]''. It is able to crush targets by using its [[signature move]], {{m|Crush Grip}}.

==In the anime==
===In the main series===
[[File:Regigigas anime.png|thumb|250px|Regigigas in the anime]]
====Major appearances====
Regigigas appeared in ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''. In the movie, it lives in a temple in the mountains of {{si|Gracidea}}. It had been asleep for centuries, for so long that moss began to grow on its body. However, when [[Zero]] entered the [[Reverse World]] and began shattering pillars of ice within it, the glacier in front of Regigigas' temple suffered catastrophic explosions and began moving. This disturbed the great titan's slumber, rousing it into action. When [[Dawn's Buneary]] and {{TP|Dawn|Swinub}} failed to stop the glacier with the help of a large group of wild Pokémon, Regigigas appeared in the command of a herd of dozens of {{p|Mamoswine}} and together, they began pushing on the glacier to hold it back. Regigigas returned to its temple at the end of the movie, where it is seen using {{m|Hyper Beam}} on {{TRT}} during the credits.

Another Regigigas appeared in ''[[DP129|Pillars of Friendship!]]'' at the [[Snowpoint Temple]]. [[J]] wanted to steal it so it was rudely awakened by her. It went on a rampage after, using Hyper Beam on practically anything. It even used {{m|Confuse Ray}} to control [[Pyramid King Brandon]]'s set of {{TP|Brandon|legendary titans}} to help it. At the end of the episode, it healed Brandon and his titans using {{m|Hidden Power}} to restore them from their petrification. It was then taken back to the temple to return to its slumber.

A Regigigas appeared in the second {{series|XY}} {{pkmn|movie}}, ''[[M18|Hoopa and the Clash of Ages]]''. One hundred years prior to the events of the movie, it was summoned by {{an|Hoopa}} alongside a {{p|Reshiram}} and {{p|Zekrom}}. The three fought Hoopa in [[Dahara City]] but were easily defeated and sent back through portals to their original homes; in Regigigas's case, this was a snowy mountain range.

====Minor appearances====
A Regigigas appeared as part of Meowth's [[boss fantasy]] in ''[[DP173|Dealing With a Fierce Double Ditto Drama!]]'', alongside Giratina.

A Regigigas appeared in the opening scenes of ''[[M13|Zoroark: Master of Illusions]]''.

====Pokédex entries====
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexbody|DP129|Regigigas|Dawn's Pokédex|Regigigas, the Colossal Pokémon. According to legend, Regigigas has towed continents using ropes.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond & Pearl''|Sinnoh}}

[[File:Regigigas PG.png|thumb|220px|Regigigas in Pokémon Generations]]
===In Pokémon Generations===
A wild Regigigas awakened in the [[Snowpoint Temple]] in ''[[PG01|The Adventure]]''.
{{-}}
==In the manga==
[[File:Diamond Reg.png|thumb|200px|Regigigas in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]
===In the movie adaptations===
A Regigigas appeared in ''{{ma|Hoopa and the Clash of Ages}}''.

===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
{{main|Reg}}
In [[Pokémon Adventures]], its silhouette was first seen inside the [[Snowpoint Temple]] in ''[[PS400|Bogging Down Quagsire]]''. When {{adv|Platinum}}, [[Maylene]], and [[Candice]] were about to freeze in a blizzard following their defeat at the hands of [[Jupiter]], it was the one who carried them to safety. Whilst in her trance, Platinum unconsciously rolled over an empty [[Poké Ball]] to the creature, and it ended up in her bag before choosing to join {{adv|Diamond}} in an effort to stop {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}}'s clash. It was later named "Reg."

===In the Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!===
{{main|Hareta's Regigigas}}
In [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!]], [[Hareta]] captures Regigigas by persuading it to help him stop [[Team Galactic]].

===In the Pokémon Pocket Monsters manga===
A Regigigas appeared in [[PMDP33]].

==In the TCG==
{{main|Regigigas (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
* [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness]]: Regigigas, together with four {{p|Bronzong}} and four {{p|Hitmonlee}}, are the statues that came alive to battle the player in [[Aegis Cave]]. After being recruited, it is able to join the player to explore. Its huge size makes it {{a|Slow Start|very slow}} for a little while, but it starts to move faster as the time wears on.

===Pokédex entries===
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{{Dex/Entry1|v=Platinum|entry=It is said to have made Pokémon that look like itself from a special ice mountain, rocks, and magma.}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=HeartGold|v2=SoulSilver|entry=It is believed to have shaped {{p|Regirock}}, {{p|Regice}}, and {{p|Registeel}} out of clay, ice, and magma.}}
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{{Dex/Entry1|v=Y|entry=There is an enduring legend that states this Pokémon towed continents with ropes.}}
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===Game locations===
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====In side games====
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{{Availability/Entry1|v=Ranger: SoA|link=Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia|color={{SoA color}}|area=[[Hippowdon Temple]]}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=Rumble|color={{fire color}}|area=[[Bright Beach]]}}
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====In events====
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===Held items===
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===Stats===
====Base stats====
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====Pokéathlon stats====
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===Type effectiveness===
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===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
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{{learnlist/level6|1|Thunder Punch|Electric|Physical|75|100|15|||Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|1|Dizzy Punch|Normal|Physical|70|100|10||'''|Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|1|Knock Off|Dark|Physical|65|100|25|||Clever|2|3}}
{{learnlist/level6|1|Confuse Ray|Ghost|Status|—|100|10|||Clever|2|1}}
{{learnlist/level6|1|Foresight|Normal|Status|—|—|40|||Clever|2|1}}
{{learnlist/level6|25|Revenge|Fighting|Physical|60|100|10|||Tough|2|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|40|Wide Guard|Rock|Status|—|—|10|||Tough|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|50|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|||Clever|4|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|65|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10|||Tough|2|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|75|Crush Grip|Normal|Physical|—|100|5||'''|Tough|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|90|Heavy Slam|Steel|Physical|—|100|10|||Tough|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|100|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5||'''|Tough|4|4}}
{{learnlist/levelf/6|Regigigas|Normal|Normal|4}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
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{{learnlist/tm6|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|60|100|15|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5||'''|Cool|4|4}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|||Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20||'''|Cute|2|3}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM23|Smack Down|Rock|Physical|50|100|15|||Tough|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM24|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|90|100|15|||Cool|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM25|Thunder|Electric|Special|110|70|10|||Cool|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM26|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|||Tough|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20||'''|Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM31|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15|||Cool|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|||Cool|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM39|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|60|95|15|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM40|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|||Cool|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20||'''|Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15||'''|Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM52|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5|||Cool|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM66|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10|||Tough|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM67|Retaliate|Normal|Physical|70|100|5||'''|Cool|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM68|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5||'''|Tough|4|4}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM69|Rock Polish|Rock|Status|—|—|20|||Tough|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM71|Stone Edge|Rock|Physical|100|80|5|||Tough|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM73|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|20|||Cool|1|3}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Clever|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM78|Bulldoze|Ground|Physical|60|100|20|||Tough|2|2}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM80|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|||Tough|2|2}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM88|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM94|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|{{sup/6|XY}}||Tough|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM94|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|{{sup/6|ORAS}}|'''|Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM96|Nature Power|Normal|Status|—|—|20|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM98|Power-Up Punch|Fighting|Physical|40|100|20|||Tough|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM100|Confide|Normal|Status|—|—|20|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|HM04|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15||'''|Tough|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|HM06|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|{{sup/6|ORAS}}||Tough|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tmf/6|Regigigas|Normal|Normal|4}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh/6|Regigigas|Normal|Normal|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/breed6null}}
{{learnlist/breedf/6|Regigigas|Normal|Normal|4}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh/6|Regigigas|Normal|Normal|4|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Block|Normal|Status|—|—|5|||no|yes|Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Drain Punch|Fighting|Physical|75|100|10|||no|yes|Tough|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10|||no|yes|Beautiful|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Fire Punch|Fire|Physical|75|100|15|||no|yes|Tough|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Focus Punch|Fighting|Physical|150|100|20|||no|yes|Tough|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Gravity|Psychic|Status|—|—|5|||no|yes|Clever|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Ice Punch|Ice|Physical|75|100|15|||no|yes|Beautiful|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|||no|yes|Beautiful|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Iron Head|Steel|Physical|80|100|15|||no|yes|Tough|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Knock Off|Dark|Physical|65|100|25|||no|yes|Clever|2|3}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|60|—|20|||no|yes|Cool|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Snore|Normal|Special|50|100|15||'''|no|yes|Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Superpower|Fighting|Physical|120|100|5|||no|yes|Tough|6|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Thunder Punch|Electric|Physical|75|100|15|||no|yes|Cool|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|||no|yes|Clever|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutorf/6|Regigigas|Normal|Normal|4}}

===={{Trading Card Game}}-only moves====
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! Move
! Card
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| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{m|Body Slam}}
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | [[Regigigas (POP Series 9 4)]]
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====[[Anime move errors|Anime-only moves]]====
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! Move
! Type
! Episode
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| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{m|Hammer Arm}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{typecolor|Fighting}}
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | ''[[DP129|Pillars of Friendship!]]''
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===Side game data===
{{Spindata/Head|type=Normal}}
{{Spindata/MDTDS|col=6|type=Normal|ndex=486
|body=4
|rate=100
|IQ=E
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Ranger SoA|col=6|type=Normal
|group=Normal
|assist=Normal
|field=None
|browser=It creates a shock wave with every step. It throws punches to attack.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Ranger GS|col=6|type=Normal
|group=Normal
|assist=Normal
|field=None
|past=NA
|browser=It launches powerful beams and lets loose shock waves as it walks.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Rumble|col=3|type=Normal
|att=5
|def=5
|speed=4
}}
{{Spindata/RumbleBlast|col=3|type=Normal
|att=5
|def=5
|speed=4
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Battle Trozei|col=3|type=Normal|ndex=486
|power=4
}}
{{Spindata/Shuffle|col=3|type=Normal|ndex=486|num=354
|min=90
|max=110
|raisemaxlevel=0
|skill=Hyper Punch
|skilldesc=Attacks sometimes deal greater damage than usual.
}}
|}

===Evolution===
{{Evobox-1
|type1=Normal
|pictype=art
|no1=486
|name1=Regigigas
|type1-1=Normal
}}

===Sprites===
{{Spritebox/Header|type=Normal}}
{{Spritebox/NA|gen=IV}}
{{Spritebox/4|ndex=486}}
{{Spritebox/5|ndex=486}}
{{Spritebox/6|ndex=486}}
{{Spritebox/Footer|486|Regigigas}}

==Trivia==
* Regigigas is the only {{type|Normal}} [[Legendary Pokémon]].
* Due to {{a|Slow Start|its Ability}} weakening it, Regigigas has more in common with {{p|Slaking}} than it does with other [[Legendary Pokémon]]. They share the {{t|Normal}} type, the same base stat total of 670, the same base {{stat|Attack}} stat of 160, and {{Abilities}} that limit their power.
** Regigigas and {{p|Slaking}} also have the highest {{stat|Attack}} stat of all {{type|Normal}} Pokémon.
* Regigigas is the only one of the [[Legendary titans]] not to have its type in its name.
** Regigigas is also the only one of the Legendary titans that does not use the remix of the Legendary titan battle theme in {{v2|Platinum}} or {{pkmn|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}. Instead, it uses the Sinnoh Legendary battle theme, much like in {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}.
*** In {{2v2|Black|White|2}}, however, the remix of the Legendary titan battle theme is used.
* In Platinum, by hacking to obtain {{ball|Cherish}}s, it is possible to trick the game into opening [[Rock Peak Ruins|Rock Peak]], [[Iceberg Ruins|Iceberg]], and [[Iron Ruins]]: by catching the in-game Regigigas in a Cherish Ball, the game thinks the Regigigas was obtained at a Nintendo event.
* In [[Generation IV]], Regigigas is the only Pokémon required to acquire the [[Diploma]] that cannot be obtained without the use of [[Generation III]] games or an event, even with all Generation IV titles. This limitation occurs because Regigigas cannot be obtained without the use of the other Legendary titans, which in turn cannot be obtained without either importing them from Generation III or obtaining them in Platinum with an event Regigigas.
* Regigigas is the tallest Normal-type Pokémon.
* Regigigas is the only [[Generation IV]] Legendary Pokémon whose Attack stat is higher than its {{stat|Special Attack}} stat.
* Regigigas is the lowest-leveled Legendary Pokémon that can be encountered in the wild, being level 1 when fought in {{game|Platinum}}.
*Regigigas's cry in ''[[M18|Hoopa and the Clash of Ages]]'' sounds very different from the other movies. Wereas in the older movies, its cry sounds deep and booming, in Hoopa and the Clash of Ages it sounds much higher, even similar to that of a human's.

===Origin===
Regigigas may be based on the {{wp|golem}}s of Hebrew legend. The legends cast them as servants of higher powers and are said to have writing on their heads. When the writing is removed, the creature would be weakened.

====Name origin====
Regigigas is a combination of ''regis'', Latin for ''royal'', and γίγας ''gigas'', Greek for ''giant''.

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=Normal|type2=Normal
|ja=レジギガス ''Regigigas''|jameaning=From ''regis'' (Latin for royal) and ''gigas'' (Greek for giant)
|de=Regigigas|demeaning=Same as Japanese name
|fr=Regigigas|frmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|es=Regigigas|esmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|it=Regigigas|itmeaning=Same as Japanese name
|ko=레지기가스 ''Regigigas''|komeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
|zh_cmn=雷吉奇卡斯 ''Léi Jí Qí Kǎ Sī''|zh_cmnmeaning=Transliteration of Japanese name
|zh_yue=雷吉奇卡斯 ''Léi Jí Qí Kǎ Sī''|zh_yuemeaning=Same as Mandarin name
|hi=रेजीगीगैस ''Regigigas''|himeaning=Transliteration of English name
|ru=Реджигигас ''Redjigigas''|rumeaning=Transcription of English name
}}
{{left clear}}

==Related articles==
*[[Reg]]
*[[Hareta's Regigigas]]
*[[Legendary titans]]


==External links==

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User talk:Jo The Marten

2016-07-31T16:26:22Z

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== how can I upload images? ==

How can I upload images? [[User:Velvetstar|Velvetstar]] 19:06 17, January 2014 (UTC)
:You can upload images [[:a:Special:Upload|here]], but make sure you read [[:a:Archives:Image_use_policy|the rules]] before you upload anything. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:35, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! Here, contact me at acousticdreamer@yahoo.com [[User:Velvetstar|Velvetstar]] 22:24 17 January 2014 (UTC)

== Learnset table ==

For this {{DL|Gust_(move)|Learnset}} table, I changed the footer to be the same color as the header, but on this other {{DL|Sand_Attack_(move)|Learnset}} table, both are two different colors. Should the Learnset table's header and footer be the same color? — [[User:Reshi643|Reshi]][[User talk:Reshi643|643]] 03:50, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
:If it's always been the same type. Gust and Sand Attack used to be Normal type moves, so the learnset tables use both Ground and Normal-type colors. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 21:44, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
::Ok, thanks. — [[User:Reshi643|Reshi]][[User talk:Reshi643|643]] 21:46, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

== Noting Clemont's eye color ==

On [[Iris]], there's no note for anime!{{an|Iris}}'s eyes; same between Misty's articles, despite having four different colors on her main page. Since his anime page notes his eyes in that incarnation are blue, I don't feel it's necessary to note it on his main page. For that same reason, I also didn't add Limone in his relatives' list, like is done on [[Brock]] and [[Misty]]. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 22:30, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
:Fair enough. i was going off Lt. Surge's page, but I guess I shoulda been using companion characters instead. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 07:26, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

== Teensy question... ==

...Do you have any idea why (some, if not most of) Bulbapedia's images are going wonky? Or is it just me? Seeing floating black error messages all over is weirding me out, lol. --[[User:FireGambit|'''F'''ire'''G'''ambit]] ([[User talk:FireGambit|talk]]) 06:52, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
:[https://twitter.com/Bulbapedia/status/429844196267016192 Cause of this.] [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 06:53, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
:I realized reading that that it didn't answer your question. The Archives just need a hardware upgrade. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 06:58, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
::Haha, alright thanks. I shall wait patiently for a fix. --[[User:FireGambit|'''F'''ire'''G'''ambit]] ([[User talk:FireGambit|talk]]) 07:00, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Bonus Question! If you're auto-confirmed here, will your account also be auto-confirmed on the Archives? I ask because earlier today, I attempted to upload a better Shauntal sprite, but apparently I can't unless I'm not auto-confirmed. --[[User:FireGambit|'''F'''ire'''G'''ambit]] ([[User talk:FireGambit|talk]]) 07:23, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
:Nope. The only thing that carries over to the other Bulbawiki sites would be your account. Not your user rights. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 07:31, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
::So then what else would one do on the Archives, other than upload images? Forgive me if this is a stupid question; I'm prone to asking them. :) --[[User:FireGambit|'''F'''ire'''G'''ambit]] ([[User talk:FireGambit|talk]]) 07:40, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
:::Hmmmm, I'd say fixing templates, image summaries, and categories would be a good place to start. To a lesser degree, welcoming new users. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 08:19, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
::::Alright then, thanks for the help. Speaking of welcoming users, when I see a new account is created, can I drop that generic Bulbapedia welcome template, or is that something only administrators can do? I promise it's the final question for tonight, hehe. --[[User:FireGambit|'''F'''ire'''G'''ambit]] ([[User talk:FireGambit|talk]]) 08:22, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::Anyone can welcome new users. But while it's not a requirement, we do have a preference that experienced users welcome new ones, because chances are that new users will go to whoever welcomed them for guidance and advice, and if the person that welcomed them literally does nothing ''but'' welcome users they won't really know how to answer their questions. See what I mean? So we'd like it if people knew their way around the site first. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 08:38, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::Alright, thanks for all the answers. I think I'll hit the sack now, lol. --[[User:FireGambit|'''F'''ire'''G'''ambit]] ([[User talk:FireGambit|talk]]) 08:42, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

== Anime characters ==

Hello! As I was perusing Bulbapedia articles the other day, I noticed that several anime characters (such as [[Foster]] or [[Georgio]]) did not have a character box. Is this because they are minor characters? Or, if they ''do'' need boxes, could I add some? Thanks in advance. --[[User:FireGambit|'''F'''ire'''G'''ambit]] ([[User talk:FireGambit|talk]]) 00:51, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
:Characters of the day, aka one-time characters don't get infoboxes usually. Typically there's no info that could be added to them. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:02, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
::Cool beans. --[[User:FireGambit|'''F'''ire'''G'''ambit]] ([[User talk:FireGambit|talk]]) 05:23, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
Bonus question, 'cause I have far too many of them: after reading plenty of articles here, I've noticed that they seem to follow a protocol of not repeat-linking a page? I'm not sure about this, but I was wondering if this is so. I've found plenty of inconsistencies, if my hypothesis is correct, and therefore was excited at the prospect of finding an editing niche. --[[User:FireGambit|'''F'''ire'''G'''ambit]] ([[User talk:FireGambit|talk]]) 05:42, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

== Template ==

Hello Jo! How goes it? Greetings aside, I was wondering if I could borrow your egg-archive-template-thing-a-ma-bob (sorry, I had to do it). I'll credit you as its creator, if you'd like. Thanks in advance. --[[User:FireGambit|'''FireGambit''']] ([[User talk:FireGambit|'''talk''']]) 22:47, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
:Sure, just make sure to change it up so it's unique to you. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 05:00, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
::Thank you again. :) --[[User:FireGambit|'''FireGambit''']] ([[User talk:FireGambit|'''talk''']]) 05:20, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

== Suggested change to our type pages ==

I made a suggestion on {{DL|Talk:Fairy (type)|Offensive and Defensive Charactaristics|Talk:Fairy (type)}} that I think would be a better course of action for handling our type pages than what we do now. I brought it up with {{DL|User talk:Maverick Nate|Suggested forums discussion|Maverick Nate}}, since he normally runs the administrative discussion on the forums, and he directed me here. Do you mind giving your thoughts on the matter, please? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:40, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
:I'll bring it up in a chat discussion cause even though I'm Head of Games I feel like all I'd do is delete all trances of competitive battling from the site. (hahaha...) But while I do agree that it's a bit too close to "strategies", it's also based on solid fact based on their stats. So if anything, it could probably just be dumbed down a bit at the very least. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 18:00, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
::Awesome. Thanks! I'll keep an eye here and on the type pages to see when things are eventually decided for sure. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:11, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

==Battle Trozei==
Does somebody have a page for the new Trozei game started up on their userpage? [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 18:49, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
:Not that I know of, but we do need a page for it asap. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:22, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

==Emulator ROM Mods==
So I used to be a huge Pokemon fan, got every game from Red and Blue through to Platinum, but faded out of it through middle school. Now with i devises having emulators, my whole grade is on a huge Pokemon hit and I began playing ROM's and found out about mods. I was looking for some info on the Zhery league, but found out through extensive searching that bulbapedia doesn't have anything on Pokemon ROM mods. Would pages on modified games ever develop?{{unsigned|Modmasterfitzy}}
:I doubt it because we don't usually publish information regarding ROMs or emulators. We stick to official information. We only acknowledge ROMs in special cases. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 03:13, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
::There is a page specifically for all [[ROM hacks]], and as far as I know there's no real restriction on adding a hack to the page so long as it's notable enough. Hell, there are even some reputable ones still missing. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 17:09, 3/4/2014 (UTC)

== Philosophical-Psychological Informist Togekiss ==

Jo, I report you that Philosophical-Psychological Informist Togekiss is editing the same page and I shouldn't give out warnings to other users, I just report you. --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 07:09, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
:I don't really see the issue. They seem to clearly have an interest in Twitch Plays Pokémon, I can't fault them on that. They choose what they want to edit. Then, because a lot happens in a short time span, I personally feel like frequent editing is to be expected. They haven't caused any fuss, or created any vandalism. I don't see them as a problematic user. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 07:25, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
::Yes Jo, that's fine with this user, I don't see the issue about editing the same page, editing Twitch Plays Pokémon is fine, so there's no vandalism, and also, this user is not a problematic user at all. --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 07:27, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

== Roaming Pokémon page, Generation VI section ==
Thanks for stating the reason for the edit in the summary, I appreciate that. Although I wanted to ask, would it be OK if we change the 10 to an 11? Because technically it's 11 times.

Also speaking of not being a strategy wiki, I seem to remember you guys having an awesome walkthrough for FireRed/LeafGreen (or was it Diamond/Pearl?). Is there plans to do that for X/Y? [[User:Karasuhebi|Karasuhebi]] ([[User talk:Karasuhebi|talk]]) 08:23, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
:Clarification is always welcome. Also, no. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 08:27, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
:: Thanks for the quick reply. Also 'No, don't change from 10 to 11' or 'No, no planned walkthrough for X/Y'? [[User:Karasuhebi|Karasuhebi]] ([[User talk:Karasuhebi|talk]]) 08:31, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
:::We're not making a walkthrough for X/Y. You're welcome to make the information on the roaming Pokémon page more specific.[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 08:35, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
:::: So since you said 'more specific' as opposed to 'accurate'can I assume you approve of me re-adding that specific part of my earlier edit? [[User:Karasuhebi|Karasuhebi]] ([[User talk:Karasuhebi|talk]]) 08:42, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

== Spammer ==

Hey, since you're online, would you mind dealing with this Ninjashazi user who is spamming links to some Pokémon game site on Mystery Dungeon pages? Thanks, ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 08:45, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

== Friend Safari locations for Pokemon pages ==

I understand we're "supposed" to be waiting on a new template to add Friend Safari locations to Pokemon pages. But I cannot fathom that it could be so great a change that Friend Safari location is only acceptably notable in that template, and not in the current template. If it is possible to acceptably note Friend Safari location for a Pokemon with the current template, people should be allowed to go around and add FS locations to Pokemon pages. It's been entirely too long, and unless you can tell me the new template will be ready in a day or two, we shouldn't have to ''keep'' waiting, ''keep'' the wiki out-of-date even longer. I know I'm willing to work on it, and I'm sure there are a few others around who would still be willing. Will you approve people adding Friend Safari locations in some acceptable format? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:05, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
:You've been around. Perhaps you've missed this... Whatever the case, I'd very much like an answer, please. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:38, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
::Don't add anything yet. The staff haven't forgotten about it. It's still being worked on. It'll be ready soon. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:37, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
:::The templates have been updated. Please use {{p|Dedenne}} and {{p|Spritzee}} as examples for the Friend Safari. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 07:43, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

== Question about Effort Value Yield ==

Hello. I couldn't find anything on Bulbapedia along the lines of Wikipedia's Reference Desk, so I figured I might as well ask you (hope I'm not a bother)! So, here goes. I visited Bulba's page on [[List of Pokémon by effort value yield|EV Yield]], and in the intro, there's a note stating that the numbers there are only valid for gen V and up! So I Googled around, and there's conflicting sources. Psypokes claims that these values only differ from the first 2 gens, and that the only change between gen III and the present is the new Pokemon (by the way, for the purposes of this question, my main focus is gen III) Is this true?.

Bonus Question - What's a good 3 Pokemon core to build around Mudkip, using Pokemon available toward the beginning of Sapphire (even if only temporary)? I plan on EVing Mudkip to be a wall breaker/mixed tank, if that helps...

And one last thing, you might have been able to deduce from my questions that I'm a budding EV trainer. Can you point me in the direction of a good online community? Kay, thanks! --[[User:SillyWynaut96|SillyWynaut96]] ([[User talk:SillyWynaut96|talk]]) 17:52, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
:The {{bp|Staff}} page is kind of like a reference page. You can contact pretty much any active staff member you want with a question, and if they can't answer, someone who can will show up to help you out.

:I looked through the history, and it seems [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_effort_value_yield&diff=1633539&oldid=1633535 Jigglypuff, Meowth, and Geodude's base exp yield was changed in Gen V]. That's what the disclaimer is referring to, not the EV they yield.

:I'm probably not the person to ask for competitive advice. I'm generally terrible at team building because I prefer using Pokémon I like over Pokémon that would actually be useful. The only thing I can really imagine being good with Mudkip in Sapphire would be Ludicolo since it gets Rain Dance and its ability heals it during a downpour. Then Mudkip-Swampert can also benefit from the attack boost. But I would suggest asking {{u|MAGNEDETH}} cause he's more savvy in that field than I am.

:As for your last question, like I said, I'm not really into competitive play myself. You could always look around the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f323/ video game board on Bulbagarden's forums]. [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f518/ There's even a board dedicated to competitive play]. I honestly don't know of any other ''good'' communities. I'm not trying to be self-promoting here. I'm just not much of a forum person so I don't really have much experience with which community is the best. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 18:18, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

::Okay, thanks! I sure appreciate the help. By the way, is there a way that I can just link this message directly to the user you mentioned, rather than re-asking the question? {{unsigned|SillyWynaut96}}
:::I'll send him a message when he comes online later. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 18:52, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
::::He said to message him off the site cause this isn't the place for this conversation. You can message him on the forums, Twitter, or via email. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 16:51, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

== User's response on [[Talk:High Jump Kick (move)]] ==

I understand that the comment is very old. However, isn't the policy that replies should not be added to conversations that have finished/resolved? The [[Bulbapedia:Talk page policy#Talk page etiquette|policy]] doesn't actually say that it is, unassailably, okay to respond if no response was ever made, of course... But Bbbbbbbbba did make a useful comment about something that was never answered in any form. I just think that warrants forbearance here and the comment should be kept. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:55, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
:I doubt Socob has been watching the talk page all these years waiting for a response. The discussion is dead. Rather than trying to revive a dead conversation, it would be a better decision to have added the information to the article. That's where most people look for information anyway. If we can get proof their theory is factual, it can be added to a Notes section. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 00:23, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
::Or...leave it on the talk page until someone ''can'' provide proof for it. If that proof never comes, you'd be preventing people from finding the information at all (Socob isn't the only person to consider).
::...Unless someone just makes a new section on the talk page with that theory. Yeah, I think that'll be what I'll resort to. If it hasn't been put on the article by tomorrow or so, I'll just make a section recounting Bbbbbbbbba's theory and asking if anyone can confirm it and put it in the article. There shouldn't really be any cause for complaint about that.
::(I don't intend to be insubordinate, per se. I just believe that this information shouldn't be consigned to the void and intend to see that it isn't (especially since I can't confirm and add it into the article myself).) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:45, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

== Pointless message about the top thing on your talk page ==

Shouldn't it be "He's a boy" and "She's a girl"? It irks me for some reason. @~@ [[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] ([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]]) 13:28, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

== Hi! <s>Billy Mays</s> SillyWynaut96 here, with another question. ==

Hope you laughed too! Anyway, I've got another (hopefully simpler) factual question (hate to single you out, but 'Head of Games' seems like the go-to for this). You're aware of the whole, grass beats water, water beats fire, fire beats grass thing. So, just how many of these rock-paper-scissor-style type-effectiveness triangles are there? Can you name them? And besides the obvious difference of the fairy type, would there be any other differences between gen III and gen VI in this respect? Thanks for putting up with me, [[User:SillyWynaut96|SillyWynaut96]] ([[User talk:SillyWynaut96|talk]]) 15:48, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
:After googling around, I think I should clarify. For my purposes, a type triangle strictly means that x is super effective to y, is super effective to z, is super effective to x. Also, x is resistant to (NOT immune to) z, is resistant to y, is resistant to x. [[User:SillyWynaut96|SillyWynaut96]] ([[User talk:SillyWynaut96|talk]]) 16:33, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
::Sorry to butt in, Jo, but The Cave of Dragonflies has a [http://dragonflycave.com/newtypetool.asp good type-interaction tool] that can tell you this and lots of other things. (The [http://dragonflycave.com/typechart.html newer version] doesn't have type polygons, but it does a lot of other things a lot better than the older one, so take a look at it, too, if you're interested.) As for your question, there are four: Fire/Water/Grass, Fire/Rock/Steel, Grass/Poison/Ground, and Fighting/Flying/Rock. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:00, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

== [[Berry#In Generation VI]] Berry list and templates ==

I come to you, Head of Games, wondering about a new template(s) for the Gen VI Berries. I have two issues.

The first, a fairly minor concern: the Gen VI Berries have no numbers, so I'd like to create a new template (Berrylist/6 and Berrylist/h/6, I think) without that column.

Second, the Berry trees now have 7 stages of growth as opposed to 5.
*This is where you planted the [Berry] Berry!
*The [Berry] is sprouting!
*The [Berry]'s seedling is growing well!
*The [Berry]'s trunk is getting bigger!
*The [Berry] tree has buds!
*The [Berry] tree is in bloom!
*(When the Berries have fruited and the tree is harvestable.)
In addition, sprouts may be different now; Rawst and Oran sprouts look different, for example. Right now we don't have sprites for any of these stages, but I think these should get a new template as well, like Tree/6.

Of course, none of the above would be ''too'' difficult to do within current templates, I just kind of think it'd be better if they were their own, new templates. What do you think? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:42, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
:Well, they are ''sorted'' by their numbers, AFAIK. You could theoretically collect all the berries and sort them by type to get the numbers. [[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] ([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]]) 16:46, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
::I notice you were on long enough to make a couple of edits since my question above. I don't know if you're busy or discussing it with staff or what, but I'd really appreciate even the briefest acknowledgement when you have a bit of time. If I would do better to take it to other staff, just let me know who. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:17, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

== Image theft ==

I don't know if this is necessary seeing their repeated history of being told on but a user of Pokémon Wikia named DragonSpore18 has been stealing images from us such as the one of [http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/File:Katsuyuki_Konishi.jpg Katsuyuki Konishi] and [http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/File:Clemont_Chespin_Overgrow.png Chespin's Overgrow]. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 02:12, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

== Rosebr10 ==

Since you were the person in contact with the anonymous source who indicated "Unknown" was the best voice actor listing for [[Bianca (movie)]], I'm hoping it would be possible for you to have a word with [[User:Rosebr10]] about {{DL|Talk:Bianca (M05)|English voice actor|her hostility on the matter}} (which, as a side note, is a recurring problem with her, as you can see from warnings on her talk page and the tone of her user page and some of her other contributions). I'd rather not myself given that I don't know the full details that you do. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:58, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

== Sigs ==
I don't know if I'm contacting the wrong guy but how do you make a sig? [[User:Lord Rayquaza|Lord Rayquaza]] ([[User talk:Lord Rayquaza|talk]]) 15:47, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
:[[Special:Preferences|Go here]], scroll down until you see "Signature", type in whatever you want. Make sure it complies with the {{bp|Signature policy}}. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 17:17, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

== Some questions ==

Hi Jo, I just have a few questions, and I figured you'd be the best person to ask them as head of games here. A while back I made a few templates that I would assume are ready to be mainspaced, but I want to run it by you first. The first of these templates is [[User:Schiffy/Template:Warrior]] (or [[User:Schiffy/Template:Warrior/Full]]), which is intended for [[List of Pokémon Conquest characters|this page]]. I asked [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] to look over the first one, and she agreed it looks fine, but that someone higher up should decide (On a side note, in regards to that page, I noticed some Warriors using colors on their tables that don't match their type(s). It's only one or two, but it should probably be fixed). On a separate note, the other templates I set up a while back were [[User:Schiffy/Barry color]] and its light and dark equivalents. Just wondering of those could possibly be used. Thanks, [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 02:21, 5/1/2014 (UTC)
:Essentially you're just taking the code already on the page and turning it into a template? Eh, I think [[Template:Warlord]] would be better. Then we could get rid of the gallery at the bottom, and fill in some of the information in the bullets. Also, we don't need a template for Barry colors. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 07:11, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
::Well yes, that's exactly what I did for the template. Essentially, I figured since the same table is being used {{tt|163 times|I think}} on that page, it would make more sense to condense it. I suppose the Warlord template could work as well. The Barry thing just crossed my mind while I was helping with the Party -> Party/Single template switch, and I noticed nearly everything with Barry was using the same three hex color codes. If they're unnecessary, then fine. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 15:07, 5/1/2014 (UTC)

== 'Google Maps: Pokémon Challenge' article ==

Hey there! Apologies if you're not in charge of such matters, but I thought you're the most appropriate person to ask, being the Head of Games. I was wondering if an article on the Google Maps: Pokémon Challenge event would be warranted. It was motivated by the April Fools, but it took place for quite a while (in fact, it [http://kotaku.com/pokemon-google-maps-rewards-players-who-catch-em-all-1569856978 still] does) and was with The Pokémon Company's [https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/450716715211427840 endorsement]. There's quite some content that can be documented, including the Pokémon on the Google Pokédex, with their index numbers and locations. I'd be interested in doing a head start if I can have the okay! :) --[[User:Ash Pokemaster|Ash Pokemaster]] ([[User talk:Ash Pokemaster|talk]]) 21:04, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
:One of our staff members, {{u|Berrenta}}, has [[User:Berrenta/GoogleDex|started an article in her userspace]]. We'll probably mainspace it soon so people can add to it. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 23:56, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks! I'll be checking with Berrenta. :) --[[User:Ash Pokemaster|Ash Pokemaster]] ([[User talk:Ash Pokemaster|talk]]) 09:10, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

== Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire are full remakes ==

It is just confirmed that the two new upcoming releases are full remakes of Ruby and Sapphire. <http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/140508/index.html> So shouldn't anything related to Ruby and Sapphire be linked to Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire? [[User:Agent5514|Agent5514]] ([[User talk:Agent5514|talk]]) 08:29, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
:No. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 08:33, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

== I'm wanting to create a Regional Pokedex walkthrough for Emerald. ==

I'm pretty new to Bulbapedia, so I'm not sure if you're the right person to ask, but after using some walkthroughs and editing some pages, I'm wanting to create a walkthrough for catching every single Pokemon in the Emerald regional Pokedex. How would I get around to doing that?

Thanks. [[User:KodakKid3|KodakKid3]] ([[User talk:KodakKid3|talk]]) 00:40, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
:We don't create walkthroughs on Bulbapedia. We have in the past, but not anymore. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:55, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

== Slots Pokemon ==

[[User talk:G50#Mainspace|G50 said]] you're the one I should ask about what to do with [[User:Ht14/IGEP/Slots|this]] (Or at least that's what I read...), considering I didn't start it (but I finished it). And it's related to games. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 15:26, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
:I don't like these at all, and while I don't find the information ''that'' particularly useful (because the moves are all essentially the last 4 moves it could learn up to its current level), if we really want to have the information on the article(s), we could do a lot better in terms of presentation. These are just a mess. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 07:20, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

== Your reversion on [[Iceberg Zone]] ==

You should not revert a whole edit that affects more than what you have issue with. I feel that since you have the problem, you should do the fixing up right, so I've reverted it (give or take a couple fixes/minor edits of my own) and you're free to add back in the colors (manually, instead of just reverting wholesale again, please). (Plus, I favor Lady Ariel's edit anyway: with the cells white, the table is brighter and more pleasant and it looks cleaner, as opposed to the dark colors for no needful reason.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:09, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
:...Okay, I'm half sorry. Upon double-checking it, it seems you didn't "just" revert Lady Ariel's edit. But you did still undo a whole lot of stuff that was completely unnecessary (the borders, the widths, the numbers, colspans, "color:"s). So I apologize for the mischaracterization. But still: please just add back/adjust the colors next time (/this time). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:22, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
::https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61707450/Head%20of%20games.png
::Actually, I'm the highest authority on decisions regarding our gaming articles aside from the EiC and deputy so I actually ''can'' revert an entire edit if I disagree with it. That means neither you nor Lady Ariel have the power or the authority to make such a major change within my section without consulting me first, or at least discussing it. The white background looks bland and boring. The colors make it pop and it looks more appealing in my opinion. If you disagree, '''discuss it''', and we will put it up to a poll, but do not simply change it because it's what ''you'' want. That design has been there since the articles were written. You can't just suddenly up and decide to change it. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:57, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
:::I respect your authority where it deserves respecting. To wit: if you insist, I'll bend regarding the color scheme (I won't even argue it, mostly because I don't know how to do so strongly enough). But your authority does not extend to useless code like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Iceberg_Zone&curid=121555&diff=2138940&oldid=2138932 all this]. ''That'' is the main reason I undid your edit; the color scheme was entirely secondary. I thought you had merely reverted the whole edit without much thought, and I wanted you to be more discriminate in fixing your issue. Though I shortly realized that you hadn't actually reverted the whole edit, it was too late. Sadly, you still reverted practically the whole of my reversion as well, even after I tried to make my main issue clear to you. (You'll notice I only discussed the color scheme parenthetically.) That means you either didn't realize that the parts I re-edited afterwards were bloat/bad form or you didn't care. I hope the answer is that you didn't realize.
:::All I'm really saying is that I expected better of you and hoped you ''would'' do better. For whatever reason, though, my hopes were betrayed and you didn't or weren't able to. Perhaps we can both do better next time... [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:00, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

== Bianca ==

I see you are the one responsible for proposing this whole mystery situation. Your reason, however, is vague. Based on your edit history, you had believed prior to contact that she was voiced by Ortiz like the rest and particularly rejected the concept of Jayne as a candidate. The way you removed Ortiz and go to such lengths suggests that your contact was with a proxy or Ortiz rather than one from Jayne. Therefore I ask you this: What exactly did your contact say? More specifically, did it particularly state that Jayne was not the voice of Bianca despite the credit list (in other words, did it say that the credits themselves were incorrect)?

Do not think ill of me; I want only what's best. And what I'd like is to see is this triviality that has somehow inflated to this mass taken care of once and for all. [[User:Rosebr10|Rosebr10]] ([[User talk:Rosebr10|talk]]) 23:43, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
:I don't know about Jayne at all. My contact was only able to confirm that Ortiz was not Bianca. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:54, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
::I knew it. So then did you choose the "Unknown" label as an absolute defense rather than an indication of sheer ambiguity? If so, in your personal opinion, regardless of this site's close-endedness concerning its procedures, do you, personally, believe at all that Bianca can be Tara Jayne? I want to know what ''you'' think. [[User:Rosebr10|Rosebr10]] ([[User talk:Rosebr10|talk]]) 03:03, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
:::I don't really have an opinion on it right at this very moment. I'd have to rewatch the movie, and then listen to some other roles Tara has done. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 03:28, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

== The new spriteboxes and the previous generations ==

I really like the new sprite boxes! However, after looking through, I saw that many of them have the wrong Generation in the part where it says, 'This Pokémon was unavailable prior to Generation '. For example: [[Wingull (Pokémon)#Sprites|Wingull]] (Which has 'Gen' as the parameter name instead of 'gen'), [[Metagross (Pokémon)#Sprites|Metagross]], [[Oshawott (Pokémon)#Sprites|Oshawott]], [[Tepig (Pokémon)#Sprites|Tepig]], [[Chandelure (Pokémon)#Sprites|Chandelure]], and many, many more. I would edit it myself, but this seems to me like it needs some sort of bot or something, because they are so many and so random. - [[User:Mr. Flix|Mr. Flix]] | [[User_talk:Mr. Flix|Talk to me^^]] 08:45, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

== Possible socks? ==

I noticed a ton of users registered with names based on Monty Python and the Holy Grail. This seems suspicious, especially since they were created one right after the other... [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 02:52, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
:Good call. Turned out to be Spyspotter socks. o/ [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 03:10, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

== New articles ==

I've noticed that Bulbapedia is missing some articles on a few of the new locations in ORAS, so I created [[User:Aggron989/Nameless Cavern|two]] [[User:Aggron989/Pathless Plain|articles]] in my userspace as a draft. I haven't created a lot of new articles before, so I was wondering if you could tell me what is considered acceptable to put into the mainspace and what needs to get revised before it can go into the mainspace. [[User:Aggron989|''AGG'']][[User talk:Aggron989|''RON'']][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|''989'']] 02:25, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

== Ability Variations ==

Hello. I'm wondering if Strong Jaw and Mega Launcher would count as variant abilities, like Snow Warning and Sand Stream, etc. They both have the same effect - increase the power of moves in a certain category by 50%, Strong Jaw for biting moves, Mega Launcher for aura and pulse moves. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 22:37, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
:Yup, the two abilities definitely share similar effects! But for right now it looks like we're going to be focusing on cleaning up variant abilities. So don't do anything for now. But yes, we definitely agree with you that the two abilities are one and the same, just for two different types of moves. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:21, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
::Okay, didn't know there was a clean-up planned. Thanks for the response. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 04:14, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

==Split for list of Mystery Dungeon characters==

I'm sorry if you aren't the person to bother on this, but since you're the Head of Games, I figured you'd be a good person to bring it up to.

The [[list of Mystery Dungeon characters]] currently covers four different sets of games. It makes more sense to me to split the page up into four different pages--one for each set of games. It'd also be easier to navigate since there wouldn't be so many different sections on one page. I brought it up on the talk page for the article, but no one has responded. I wouldn't be in such a rush, except I plan on doing quite a few edits to some Mystery Dungeon articles, and it would involve linking to this list. So if the page ''is'' going to be split, I'd rather it be before I make all of the edits so that I won't have to go back and fix all the links.

If you could get back to me, or direct me to someone else I should talk to, I'd appreciate it. [[User:Slimey01|'''slimey''']][[User talk:Slimey01|'''01''']] 02:37, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

== Pokémon Yellow PEGI Rating ==

I earlier interrupted what might have become an edit war to try to help figure out a solution to what was being edited. After a [[User_talk:SatoMew2#The_comment_regarding_PEGI|friendly chat]], I made the call on how to mark Yellow for PEGI: unrated (I used N/A since it didn't exist at the time), and included a tooltip with the conflicting source listed as Pokémon UK, who claims it's rated. I know nothing about PEGI other than being told it was created in 2003, which was after Generation II.

As the Head of Games (this article, obviously, is a game), can you please review the discussion and [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Yellow_Version&diff=2222389&oldid=2222196 my edit] and determine if anything further should be done in regards to this? Other than contacting PEGI and getting official word from them, we have to go by the facts, I think. Feel free to outdent the discussion if you choose to comment. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 05:06, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
:Just saw [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Yellow_Version&curid=1013&diff=2224303&oldid=2223679 this]. Thank you for making the call, appreciated. =) [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 05:49, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
::Hello, I was actually the one who started the discussion. As you probably saw, those of us who were involved in the discussion came to a slightly different conclusion. Although I'll respect your final decision, I request that you read [[User_talk:SatoMew2#The_comment_regarding_PEGI|our discussion]] in order to see why we came to the conclusion we did. (It was linked above, so you may have already read it.) Thanks! —[[User:The Sackinator|The Sackinator]] ([[User talk:The Sackinator|talk]]) 04:35, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

== PokéDex entries/Game Locations ==

I would just like to ask for the PokéDex entries and Game Locations section in each individual "Species (Pokémon)" pages, for which games are supposed to be written in white or black texts. Some articles feature Omega Ruby with black text, while some others feature Omega Ruby in white text, same as for Alpha Sapphire, and maybe previous generations. Or either black or white text is acceptable? --[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] ([[User talk:Ruixiang95|talk]]) 14:49, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
:Hi, hopefully I can take this one, Jo.
:I'm already working on correcting this. I asked [[User:ht14|ht14]] about this yesterday, who checked with [[User:Kogoro|the editor-in-chief]] and confirmed they are all to be white text. I have gone ahead just yesterday and updated all Hoenn Pokémon pages - which as you note were all mixed up even there - to now all have white text. This is the standard from what Kogoro says. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 14:52, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
::Just to clarify, the only labels I refer to are OR and AS. The others are all fine. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 15:00, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

== Making Pokémon Yellow's PEGI rating be "3" by default and mentioning where it is from. ==

Hello. I was actually the one who started [[User_talk:SatoMew2#The_comment_regarding_PEGI|the discussion you dealt with regarding Pokémon Yellow's PEGI rating]]. Those of us who were involved in the discussion came to a slightly different conclusion than you did; we thought that since PEGI's actual website—the "more official" source—lables it unrated, we should make that the default choice while also noting (e.g., by tooltip) the other source's "3" rating. Although I'll respect your final decision, I request that you read our discussion in order to see why we came to the conclusion we did (unless you did read it already). Thanks! (As you may notice, I basically already posted this in the [[User talk:Jo The Marten#Pokémon Yellow PEGI Rating|Pokémon Yellow PEGI Rating]] section above. I'm just re-posting this to make sure you got it.) —[[User:The Sackinator|The Sackinator]] ([[User talk:The Sackinator|talk]]) 17:14, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

== DexNav or hidden Pokémon ==

Need a consensus on whether is it DexNav or Hidden Pokémon on the Pokémon pages. --[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] ([[User talk:Ruixiang95|talk]]) 08:20, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
:I would use Hidden Pokémon personally. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 08:59, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
::So the example of the {{p|Lillipup}} page works fine with you? --[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] ([[User talk:Ruixiang95|talk]]) 12:05, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
:::Just to tack on if this is OK, here's a [[User_talk:SnorlaxMonster#.22DexNav_Exclusive.22|related discussion]]. I would suggest that you never saw one until you received the DexNav, making them DexNav exclusive, but the arguments regarding not needing to actually load up DexNav to approach them carries weight here. This would be a case where I have to agree to disagree. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 15:20, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

== Probably a dumb question ==

I'm a bit confused as to why Swords Dance and Barrier are considered variations to a lot of moves on [[Template:Amnesia]] but much less on [[Template:Agility]], which is the template used on their pages. It seems contradictory to me. Should those two be removed from the Acid Armor (template named Amnesia for some reason) variations? Or am I missing something obvious again? [[User:Nairbnroh|Nairbnroh]] ([[User talk:Nairbnroh|talk]]) 10:43, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:I'm not sure to be honest, but I can say we're planning on completely reworking move variations and the like at some point. So it will be changed then. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 09:13, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

== Morty's Gengar ==

I created the Morty's Gengar page on my [[User:Pattyman/Morty's Gengar|userspace]] not too long ago. Do you think it would be worthy enough for Gengar to have its own article because it appeared in the games, anime, manga (except for Pokémon Adventures but three manga appears to be enough), and TCG, and is Morty's signature Pokémon? [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 01:26, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

== SpotPass ==

Because you are the Project Games leader, I want to show you my [[User:Pokéfan95/SpotPass|SpotPass]] article. I think it meets the notability requirements, and if [[StreetPass]] has its own article, so shouldn't [[SpotPass]] have one too? So, can it be mainspaced? Thank you! --~~[[User:Pokéfan95|ThePokémonFan]][[User talk:Pokéfan95|Since]][[Special:Contributions/Pokéfan95|1995]]~~-- 07:12, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

== Saving a Game ==

Pokemon Omega Ruby will be my first game, and the Saving article is a little unclear. Let's say the only pokemon I had was my starter and I made it to Petalburg Woods. Then I saved my game. The next day I caught 2 more pokemon and I wanted to save. Correct me if I am wrong, but since the game only allows one save file, then if I delete my first save file, what will happen? Will I lose my starter? Or did I misread and you only have to delete a save file if you want to start over? Please help! I think we should add this info to make the article more clear. Sorry if I am bothering you. [[User:Leafeon6954|Leafeon6954]] ([[User talk:Leafeon6954|talk]]) 17:04, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
:For Jo's reference, this appears to have been answered at {{redlink|Talk:Saving#Deleting a save file}}. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 21:06, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
::I am aware of that. Thanks you for mentioning it though.[[User:Leafeon6954|Leafeon6954]] ([[User talk:Leafeon6954|talk]]) 23:57, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

==Addition to Data structure template==
A user [[Template_talk:Data_structure|suggested]] adding [[Character encoding in Generation III]] to [[Template:Data_structure|the data structure template]], but the suggestion seems to have gone unnoticed. Since the template's locked, an administrator would have to be involved to make a change anyways, so I figured I'd notify you of this. [[User:Nairbnroh|Nairbnroh]] ([[User talk:Nairbnroh|talk]]) 03:49, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

== Submitting Pictures ==

Hey, I wanted to offer to submit pictures of the Diplomas both Regional and National in ORAS, Bulbapedia was a HUGE help in my accomplishing this goal, and the least I can do is offer to fill in the diploma page if I can. I do apologize for disturbing you, I am still learning about this side of the site.

Shadow_King23 September 28, 2015 14:17 UTC (10:17 AM for my timezone)

== Pokemon Conquest ==

I've picked it up again and just wanna ask someone, and since you're Head of Games according to the staff board - any hope of [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f195/pokemon-conquest-templates-170706/ getting this project off the ground] at last? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 03:25, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

== Project Sidegames ==

Yo Jo, considering you're a member of the Editorial Board and the Head of Games, I thought you'd be the best person to bring this to: I took it upon myself to design a new logo for {{bp|Project Sidegames}}, 'cause I feel the {{img|Project Sidegames logo.png|current logo}} is only representing Pokémon Ranger 3 and not any of the other spin-off games. 
[http://orig00.deviantart.net/e61b/f/2015/279/8/1/projectsidegames1_by_kimbachu-d9c4x21.png Here's version 1], ft. Pokémon Ranger & Pokémon Conquest 
[http://orig06.deviantart.net/22ed/f/2015/279/8/5/projectsidegames2_by_kimbachu-d9c4x2b.png Here's version 2], ft. Pokémon Ranger, Pokémon Conquest, and Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 
What do you think? '''—★[[User:Reshii|レシイラム]]''''''[[User talk:Reshii|talk]]''' 11:30, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

== Nice too meet you! ==

Hi, I'm the one of administrators in [[52Poké Wiki]], but also, the key point is that I'm the leader of the [[zh:神奇宝贝百科:旁支游戏工程|Sidegame Project]]. Leading a product isn't vairy easy or difficult. So...I want to thank you for the pages that your project edits. I always refer to yours, and admire from my heart. I hope we can build a frienship-bridge between our Wiki Station and yours. The same as the projects. Actually, I wish we can keep communication. Our pages just like [[zh:嘎拉嘎拉道场|Marowak Dojo]], [[zh:时之齿轮|Time Gears]], [[zh:大牙狸（时暗空探险队）|Bidoof (Explorers of Time, Darkness, and Sky)]] and so on...These are the outstanding pages that I did. Thanks for your hard work! --'''[[User:D.B.|Dark-Abosl]] ♫ [[User_talk:D.B.|♪Perish Song♪]]''' 13:19, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

== Weird Pokerus ==

Hi! Since you are the head of games, I thought you'd have info on this sort of thing. Anyways, I got a legit Xerneas with Pokerus in ORAS. I infected my Pokemon on my team with it, but after more than four days, the Pokerus STILL isn't gone yet! I think the problem is that I used two different Nintendos with different times and stuff, but I can't be too sure. If you could help me with this problem, that would be great. Thanks![[User:Leafeon6954|Leafeon6954]] ([[User talk:Leafeon6954|talk]]) 05:32, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

== editing userspace ==

Hello, I was banned from editing my userspace (I think banned idk how it works) a while ago, but recently I've been making many edits to the mainspace, especially with articles regarding Pokémon XD. I was just wondering if I could be given back the ability to edit my userspace. Thanks! [[User:Panjohn|Panjohn]] ([[User talk:Panjohn|talk]]) 02:18, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

== Potential sidebar usage ==

Hello! I was inquiring to see if I could use the sidebar design located on your userpage with permission, please? (the one situated on the right with the sprite circle, list of sub-pages, collapsible "Info" section, and collapsible "Pals" section - my own headings will probably be different). You have a very nice layout! Thank you very much in advance for your response/help. (Also, thanks for helping me confirm that it is possible to put collapsible boxes within collapsible boxes; I'm just now starting to get a handle on all of this userpage wikicode stuff. XD [[User:Fenyx4|Fenyx4]] ([[User talk:Fenyx4|talk]]) 22:20, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

== Updating Movelist for Contest Condition Page ==

This had been long overdue, but I created updated versions of movelists for the [[Cool (condition)]], [[Beautiful (condition)]], [[Tough (condition)]], [[Cute (condition)]], and [[Clever (condition)]] for ORAS. Since the existing templates could not accommodate the new information, I had to make and test new templates on my userspace and left the up-to-date lists on the respective Talk pages. Anyways, I figured it would be really helpful for this belated information to be made available on the mainspace. Let me know if you have any questions or concerns regarding the new lists. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 20:20, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

== Pokémon Sun and Moon ==

If you know Chinese you could add the Chinese names using [https://www.facebook.com/Bulbagarden/photos/a.10150659204679668.414336.256146679667/10154039365929668/?type=3&theater this image] apparently 52 PokéWiki only uses one of them and I don't know which :P --[[User:Raltseye|Ralts]][[User talk:Raltseye|eye]] 16:31, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

== Pokémon Shuffle ==

I was wondering if I could help add info to the sidegames section of each Pokémon page for their respective Pokémon Shuffle counterparts. Thanks!

[[User:Iceblock715|Iceblock715]] ([[User talk:Iceblock715|talk]]) 21:23, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

== [[User:NateVirus/Blaziken_(Pokkén_Tournament)|Blaziken's Pokkén Page]] ==

I earlier ran this by [[User talk:Abcboy|Abcboy]] and was told to ask a member of the {{bp|Editorial Board}}. I made a number of pages for the playable characters in [[Pokkén Tournament]] earlier this year and I believe the first one I finished is [[User:NateVirus/Blaziken_(Pokkén_Tournament)|Blaziken's]], as I can't think of anything else I need to add to it, other than screenshots and the voice actor, who I can't really find/figure out. Other than that, I think it might be ready for mainspacing, though I admit it may be a little "rough around the edges". Thank you for your time. I'll probably come back to you when I fell the other pages might be ready. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 20:16, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

== I got some images ==

So I joined because I wanted to edit some stuff in the Learning Typing with Pokemon. But I got a message that I cannot upload images. Anyway. Here are the images for the boy and girl protagonists, Werty and Paige.

http://imgur.com/Tut5luu

http://imgur.com/jNzpNq4

http://imgur.com/eaevAqW

http://imgur.com/vuWkL0o

They don't have names the japanese web page just refer to the protagonists as Hero Boy and Hero Girl. [[User:Kelcyus|Kelcyus]] ([[User talk:Kelcyus|talk]]) 21:43, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

== Special Traits in Pokemon Rumble ==

I was looking at the "Specificity among Special Traits" discussion under the [[Talk:Special_Traits]] page for Pokémon Rumble World, and I noticed that you said you would start a section for the subject, but I'm having troubles finding it. Could you please let me know where it is? I would like to check it out, possibly edit it. Thanks. [[User:Tristanlbailey|Tristanlbailey]] ([[User talk:Tristanlbailey|talk]]) 05:52, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Nevermind, another user has created a section on the sub-topic, so I have added to it. [[User:Tristanlbailey|Tristanlbailey]] ([[User talk:Tristanlbailey|talk]]) 07:27, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

== Why was my edit reverted??? ==

I recently made an edit on the Beedrill(Pokémon) page. I added a sentence in the trivia section about a cameo appearance of some Beedrill in a show. I'm not sure what was wrong with it, but another user completely deleted my edit. I tried to find them on the staff page, but I couldn't. I was hoping you could just go to the recent changes and look at my Beedrill edit.[[User:Grass4Lyfe|Grass4Lyfe]] ([[User talk:Grass4Lyfe|talk]]) 15:32, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
UPDATE: I solved the mystery. I never knew about the References to Pokémon in Culture page, whoops!

User talk:Pumpkinking0192/Archive 4

2016-07-31T16:24:28Z

Grass4Lyfe:

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Please leave your message by creating a new section below. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:57, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

== Small group ==

Pumpkinking, early Normal-type Pokémon like Patrat and Bunnelby is too small of a group to note right so I hidden a piece of trivia on each of the Pokémon pages anyway. --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 04:38, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

== Japanese seiyū ==

Hello, I've noticed that you've changed the term "seiyū" to "voice actor" on [[Becky]]'s page twice. I won't undo your revision because we really shouldn't get into an edit war, but I have to remind you that the term "seiyū" is used when referring to Japanese voice actors in order to distinguish them from English voice actors. It's also a rule {{u|Kenji-girl}} established on the [[Project VA#Article Structure|Project VA]] page.

Also, you suggested that the "[[List of Japanese voice actors]]" page use the term "seiyū" but then it'd be inconsistent with Becky's page...either we'd have to change both uses of "seiyū" to "voice actor" for both Becky's and the list's pages, or else we'd have to do the opposite for all other VA articles. [[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|☆]][[User:GamerGeek|Gamer]][[User talk:GamerGeek|Geek]][[Steelix (Pokémon)|☆]] 22:15, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
:I didn't change it twice. After my first edit, I saw your edit summary pointing out Project VA's guideline, and [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Becky&diff=2094489&oldid=2094488 as you can see,] my second edit was merely to add a Wikipedia link. I don't see how using one or the other ("seiyu" or "voice actor") on all pages is inconsistent; if anything, the way we have it now is inconsistent, as we use two different terms on different parts of the wiki. We should pick one and be consistent with it across all pages. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:45, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

== Evolution ==

Evolution and its derivatives are always capitalized according to the Pokémon Syntax, what's wrong with it? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 00:49, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
:It'd be nice if you had cited that source in the first place. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:50, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
::And please check {{u|SnorlaxMonster/Pokémon Syntax|the Pokémon Syntax}} if you noticed. --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 00:53, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
:::Don't patronize me. I already acknowledged that I saw your source. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:55, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

== Aqua Ribbon/Wallace Cup ==

([http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dawn_(anime)&diff=2104717&oldid=2104703 link]) It does, but I was going for with a '''Ctrl+F''''ble solution here. And perhaps speaking just for myself, but I initially didn't even know the winner gets an Aqua Ribbon, so I wouldn't even know where to look.

Would you agree with simply moving it to the end, meaning while not getting in the way, we'd still have it easily noticeable? ([http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dawn_(anime)&action=edit&section=10 edit link]):
* {{to|Floaroma}} [[Ribbon]] (''[[DP027|Settling a Not-So-Old Score!]]'')
* {{DL|Ribbon|Aqua}} Ribbon (''[[DP079|Strategy with a Smile!]]'') (winner of the [[Wallace Cup]])
* {{to|Celestic}} Ribbon (''[[DP095|Battling The Generation Gap!]]'')
* {{to|Chocovine}} Ribbon (''[[DP114|Another One Gabites the Dust!]]'')
* {{to|Daybreak}} Ribbon (''[[DP162|Playing the Performance Encore!]]'')
--'''[[User:Det|Det]][[User talk:Det|talk]]''' 16:19, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
:The Aqua Ribbon is not the winner of the Wallace Cup, though, so that's not grammatically accurate. Would either "Aqua Ribbon for winning the Wallace Cup (Strategy with a Smile!)" or "Aqua Ribbon (Strategy with a Smile!) (for winning the Wallace Cup)" be sufficient? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:18, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
::Well, I've learnt not fight you people too much over what ''I'' think is right, so as long as it mentions that "Wallace Cup", I'm happy with what you think is best.
::But to me the first suggestion seems a little "clumsy", though, as it [[Dawn_(anime)#Contests|deviates]] a bit too much from the rest and as a sentence might make you think <nowiki>'</nowiki>''well, why not name all the other Cups too?''<nowiki>'</nowiki> (which I don't think even have names).
::I'd personally go with either of these (the first one is yours):
::* {{DL|Ribbon|Aqua}} Ribbon (''[[DP079|Strategy with a Smile!]]'') (for winning the [[Wallace Cup]])
::* {{DL|Ribbon|Aqua}} Ribbon (for winning the [[Wallace Cup]] in ''[[DP079|Strategy with a Smile!]]'')
::--'''[[User:Det|Det]][[User talk:Det|talk]]''' 19:55, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

== Logical quotes ==

Should we just leave it the way it was when added, first come/first serve? [[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] ([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]]) 15:18, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
:I don't normally believe in compromising on ideological grounds, but in this case it's in my favor, so I suppose so. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:26, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

== Scientific Trivia ==

Sorry to bother you, but could you help me understand a little better why you thought the piece of trivia on Steelix's page shouldn't have been there? I know it's no big deal, but pointing out something that is scientifically incorrect seems like a valid thing to put in a trivia section to me. [[User:Aggron989|''AGG'']][[User talk:Aggron989|''RON'']][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|''989'']] 00:54, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
:For the same reason that trivia about {{p|Wailord}} being less dense than air has been repeatedly removed from its page — it has to make assumptions about the Pokemon world working the same way as ours, when it clearly doesn't. Aside from the existence of Pokemon themselves, there are tons and tons of other completely ridiculous things in the Pokedex — Alakazam having an IQ of 5000, Ponyta's hooves being harder than diamonds, etc. Simply put, the Pokedex is just not a place for any kind of scientific data that makes sense in our world. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:12, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
::I hope you'll pardon the intrusion, but I'd also note that Steelix's entries only say its composition is diamond''like'', not that it is necessarily ''made of'' diamonds. (Others even say it is ''harder'' than diamonds, which should imply that it ''cannot'' be made of them.) So the trivia point was off the mark in the first place. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:29, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

== Shuckle trivia ==

Couldn't Shuckle potentially get Ice Ball through Mimic?--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 20:47, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
:True. That wasn't listed in any of the original discussion about the trivium, though, so I hope it's understandable that I overlooked it, especially since Shuckle can't even get Mimic unless it's migrated forward all the way from FRLG or XD. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:52, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

==Mega stat trivia==
Just so you know, Dennou made it [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi#Type/stat superlative trivia|pretty clear]] that that was just an opinion and is by no means binding. Now, I've seen SnorlaxMonster remove such trivia as well, so it's basically a ''de facto'' rule. I only decided to add the exclusion rather than remove the whole trivia because there has been no official rule. In my opinion, Mega Evolutions are not like pseudo-legendaries for several reasons: they are alternate forms, not just unusually strong Pokémon; they are not just a fan designation based on stats; and they are temporary, in-battle-only changes, which basically makes them no different than a stat-boosting move. As you can see from [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Archeops_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&curid=116027&diff=2114172&oldid=2114166 our edits], someone thought it notable that Archeops had the highest BST of all Fossil Pokémon, a group with only 11 members. I'd say that small groups like Fossils or Babies or starters should only note the highest BST, while larger groups like types and legendaries should note each highest stat as well. (Sorry for the essay, lol). --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|The]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|Best]] 05:21, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
:And in my opinion, any opinion by a staff member, even if explicitly non-binding, is better than having no policy at all, and is thus good enough to apply until another staff member disagrees. But I see your point, and agree that small groups shouldn't note such things. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:58, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

==Pokédex trivia==
Nice work on dealing with removing all the trivia from those Pokédex trivia pages. Just so you are aware the only reason I added that trivia piece for the Kanto Pokédex regarding Magnemite and Magneton was that my attempt to alter the template itself regarding that information itself failed when I previewed it, so I decided to add that trivia piece instead. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 22:48, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
:Yeah, it makes more sense for it to be a trivia point than to try to jury-rig the templates in a way that probably wouldn't even end up being very clear to the average reader. :) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:04, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
::Plus unlike Johto, it did not require the creation of another Pokédex page, anyway thanks for the update on the trivia, as long as it serves its original purpose I don't mind if the wording is changed. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 23:12, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
:::Also one other thing to point out is let's wait until more concrete details regarding the Pokédex for the Ruby and Sapphire remakes is confirmed to affect what decision will be made regarding the Pokédex listings for Hoenn, especially since many of the Pokémon listed in it now have the Fairy-type attached to them which would only end with either a new page or a need for a new trivia piece. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 23:26, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

== Roxie ==

I know where you're coming from, but for me, it doesn't matter whether the bass is left or right hand oriented. One can see that for themselves without the article having to tel them that.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:00, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
:And that's a much better (and more communicative) reason than "other people have removed it." [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:15, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

== Bestow ==

I am quite surprised this happened! What I did on Bestow's page was remove 'In other generations' section, for the reason that it is still the image from Generation V which goes in the main infobox and it is hence pointless to create a separate section for the same image. As you might check with moves like {{m|Snarl}}, and {{m|Simple Beam}}, and {{m|Entrainment}}, no 'In other generations' has been mentioned on their pages as well due to the same reason. So I would like to ask what prompted you to revert my edits (and call me a vandal on the top of that; it really hurt me!) when a similar pattern is followed for other Generation V moves. [[User:Harryghost|Harryghost]] ([[User talk:Harryghost|talk]]) 11:47, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
:My bad. Somehow I managed to think the infobox image was from Gen VI — although now I can't comprehend why I would think that, as it's clearly pixelated rather than a 3D model. Vandalism was the only reason that occurred to me for why someone would remove what I thought was not a redundant image. I humbly apologize. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:33, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

== That J episode ==

https://youtu.be/v1xysHR0jsM?t=983

The only reason they didn't die was that they were lucky enough for Gardevoir to Teleport them. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 06:01, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

== Zapdos edit ==

Thanks for the edit you recently made to Zapdos's page.[[User:Ratchet and Clank 1995|Ratchet and Clank 1995]] ([[User talk:Ratchet and Clank 1995|talk]]) 18:45, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

== Nature Power revert ==

How is that self evident? The point of the articles is to educate the reader on the intricacies of the moves, and it can't do that if information is left up in the air. in your rationel, it should be evident that Hidden Power is affected by the abilities, however that is not the case. Hidden Power is a normal type move, but it is not treated as one by the ability.

Moves behave in all kinds of unpredictable ways, like how Curse places a curse on the user if they have protean.

For all the reader knows, if a Pokemon has acquired Refrigerate and then uses Nature Power while Electric Terrain is on the field, the move would be a Ice-type thunderbolt just like how Normalize makes Thunderwave a normal-type move that can bypass ground's immunity. The problem is, it won't, so if you try to use Nature Power against a ground type in this scenario, all you're going to do is throw away a move because it'll still be immune. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:51, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
:It's self-evident because Nature Power is merely "calling" the other move in the same way Metronome does. Since "called moves act the same as they do if they're used normally" is a general rule, it's only exceptions to that rule that need to be noted, since a reader can always easily navigate to the called move's page to read about it. If we wrote about every called move's interactions with everything else in the game (especially, god forbid, on a page like Metronome) it would balloon out of control. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:15, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

== Zygarde ==

Bringing this up here before I do any further edits. The Zygarde section seems to put a lot of emphasis on trying to justify the Loki's children theory, and Norse mythology in general. Leaving little room for other interpretations. If you want to trim down the section I suggest removing a lot of the justification for these theories too. Like how are long lines fine like this one: ''Zygarde Complete Forme may be based on Hel, the ruler of {{wp|Hel (location)|Helheim}}, the realm of the dead in Nordic myth. She is often depicted as a half alive and half dead being, which may have inspired Zygarde's theme of balance between life and death.'' But a short note that Complete may be based on a combined Mecha not? Complete has a very strong physical appearance and generally looks inorganic, this in contrast to Hel who is frail. The Mecha note can help give insight into that.

Flatworms being able to form into bigger multi-cellular creatures is incorrect, they can just split into several individuals if cut in two, but not actually merge. Flatworms should either be left out of that sentence completely or get their own specifying that case. I support the first. Also I think Euglena is worth mentioning because they are the creatures that visually look the most like Zygarde Core, on top of the photosynthesis link. [[User:Petrichor|Petrichor]] ([[User talk:Petrichor|talk]]) 05:38, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
:I'm just trying to avoid excessive detail. Which interpretations get focus and which don't are something that I have no particular stance on. The Norse mythology thing has been heavily pushed by other users, though, so I've been hesitant to trim it because people tend to throw a fit when it's trimmed. But you're more than welcome to try to do so yourself if you want. As for flatworms, sorry about that. I'll adjust that clause. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:13, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

== Ar-KAY-Us ==

Why did you undo my edit? I've seen the promotional trailer, it clearly says "Ar-KAY-us". [[User:CrashBash|CrashBash]] ([[User talk:CrashBash|talk]]) 13:43, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
:Apologies. That trivium had stood like that for a ''very'' long time without anyone objecting, you left no edit summary to explain, and we often have vandals who change minor things for apparently no reason but enjoyment of seeing subtle wrongness go unnoticed, so I assumed you were one of those vandals. It seems you were perhaps instead just correcting something one of those vandals had slipped in long ago. Sorry for the misunderstanding. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 14:54, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
::OK, it's cool. Thing is, I've seen lots of videos discussing the various pronunciations of Arceus' name, and whilst I have found one for Ar-KAY-us, I have never found one for Ar-SAY-us other than a passing comment. [[User:CrashBash|CrashBash]] ([[User talk:CrashBash|talk]]) 15:46, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

== Legendary Pokémon anime vs games ==

You've been a small part of the recent back and forth on [[Legendary Pokémon]], so I just want to make sure you know, it's been edited back and forth quite enough. If you happen to still have an opinion about it, let's move the issue to a talk page.

Please. Thank you. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:58, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

==GenII+ Base Stats for Kanto Pokemon==
Can you find me a sortable list of GenII base stats for only the 151 Kanto Pokemon? I need it to be Kanto Pokemon only, I can't have all the others crowding the list, because they're not in Pokemon GO yet. Right now I'm using the [[Bulbapedia:Sandbox]], but I don't want to use the sandbox every time to view it.
[[User:Damian001|Damian001]] ([[User talk:Damian001|talk]]) 18:05, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
:The only lists I know of are the [[List of Pokémon by base stats]] page and the related pages linked at the top of it. Sorry I can't help you any more than that. If you don't want to use the sandbox, you can make enough productive edits elsewhere on the wiki to become {{bp|autoconfirmed}}, then use a user subpage. I know this probably isn't the answer you want to hear, but it's the only one I know. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:10, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

==Reggie==
Hi there! Would you please explain why you removed [[Reggie]] from the "Other participants" section in the article for the [[Lily of the Valley Conference]]? The reason you gave in the edit summary is really not good enough.

As you must know, our articles can be {{cat|Articles needing more information|incomplete}}. It's not because Reggie's participation in the League isn't mentioned on his article that you should go and remove it from other pages. Your edit created an inconsistency because Reggie is still listed as a participant in the pages for the [[Indigo Plateau Conference|Indigo]], [[Silver Conference|Silver]], and [[Ever Grande Conference]]s.

As a rule of thumb, you should always look for a source or watch the episodes yourself instead of guessing. And if I had to guess, I'd say the chances of him having participated in these League tournaments are high considering he got eight Badges from Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh. --[[User:Mikuri|'''Mi''']][[User talk: Mikuri|'''ku''']][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|'''ri''']] 00:20, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
:True, our articles can be incomplete. But the same user who added it had just had [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Lily_of_the_Valley_Conference&diff=2474800&oldid=2474773 other contributions to the same article reverted], so I thought the odds were more likely that it was another bad contribution than that several of our pages were wrong. We can't simply rely on "the chances" of him having participated based on the number of his Badges; someone must cite the episode in which it's explicitly stated that he had participated in the past. The onus of proof is on the side trying to change the status quo, and the status quo for years has been that he hasn't been listed as a prior participant. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:27, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
::Nowhere did I say we should assume things and rely on the chances of something being correct. On the contrary, I suggested you to look for a source and, failing that, to watch the episode and see it for yourself. If I *had* to guess, I would say Reggie did compete in these League tournaments, ''but I don't have to''. I was simply telling you to check your facts before creating inconsistencies. In the future, don't assume. Thank you. --[[User:Mikuri|'''Mi''']][[User talk: Mikuri|'''ku''']][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|'''ri''']] 02:31, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

== What happened to my edit? ==

I noticed that you recently got rid of my Beedrill edit. I read your user page, so I don't know why you would delete my edit completely. I was hoping you could elaborate?[[User:Grass4Lyfe|Grass4Lyfe]] ([[User talk:Grass4Lyfe|talk]]) 15:38, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
:As my edit summary said, things like that don't belong on Pokémon species pages. You should put it on [[List of references to Pokémon in popular culture]] instead, although I didn't put it there myself because I'm not familiar with how to upload an associated screencap to the Archives so it can be used on that page. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:13, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
::Oh, thanks for clearing it up![[User:Grass4Lyfe|Grass4Lyfe]] ([[User talk:Grass4Lyfe|talk]]) 16:24, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

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Please leave your message by creating a new section below. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:57, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

== Small group ==

Pumpkinking, early Normal-type Pokémon like Patrat and Bunnelby is too small of a group to note right so I hidden a piece of trivia on each of the Pokémon pages anyway. --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 04:38, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

== Japanese seiyū ==

Hello, I've noticed that you've changed the term "seiyū" to "voice actor" on [[Becky]]'s page twice. I won't undo your revision because we really shouldn't get into an edit war, but I have to remind you that the term "seiyū" is used when referring to Japanese voice actors in order to distinguish them from English voice actors. It's also a rule {{u|Kenji-girl}} established on the [[Project VA#Article Structure|Project VA]] page.

Also, you suggested that the "[[List of Japanese voice actors]]" page use the term "seiyū" but then it'd be inconsistent with Becky's page...either we'd have to change both uses of "seiyū" to "voice actor" for both Becky's and the list's pages, or else we'd have to do the opposite for all other VA articles. [[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|☆]][[User:GamerGeek|Gamer]][[User talk:GamerGeek|Geek]][[Steelix (Pokémon)|☆]] 22:15, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
:I didn't change it twice. After my first edit, I saw your edit summary pointing out Project VA's guideline, and [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Becky&diff=2094489&oldid=2094488 as you can see,] my second edit was merely to add a Wikipedia link. I don't see how using one or the other ("seiyu" or "voice actor") on all pages is inconsistent; if anything, the way we have it now is inconsistent, as we use two different terms on different parts of the wiki. We should pick one and be consistent with it across all pages. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:45, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

== Evolution ==

Evolution and its derivatives are always capitalized according to the Pokémon Syntax, what's wrong with it? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 00:49, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
:It'd be nice if you had cited that source in the first place. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:50, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
::And please check {{u|SnorlaxMonster/Pokémon Syntax|the Pokémon Syntax}} if you noticed. --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 00:53, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
:::Don't patronize me. I already acknowledged that I saw your source. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:55, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

== Aqua Ribbon/Wallace Cup ==

([http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dawn_(anime)&diff=2104717&oldid=2104703 link]) It does, but I was going for with a '''Ctrl+F''''ble solution here. And perhaps speaking just for myself, but I initially didn't even know the winner gets an Aqua Ribbon, so I wouldn't even know where to look.

Would you agree with simply moving it to the end, meaning while not getting in the way, we'd still have it easily noticeable? ([http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dawn_(anime)&action=edit&section=10 edit link]):
* {{to|Floaroma}} [[Ribbon]] (''[[DP027|Settling a Not-So-Old Score!]]'')
* {{DL|Ribbon|Aqua}} Ribbon (''[[DP079|Strategy with a Smile!]]'') (winner of the [[Wallace Cup]])
* {{to|Celestic}} Ribbon (''[[DP095|Battling The Generation Gap!]]'')
* {{to|Chocovine}} Ribbon (''[[DP114|Another One Gabites the Dust!]]'')
* {{to|Daybreak}} Ribbon (''[[DP162|Playing the Performance Encore!]]'')
--'''[[User:Det|Det]][[User talk:Det|talk]]''' 16:19, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
:The Aqua Ribbon is not the winner of the Wallace Cup, though, so that's not grammatically accurate. Would either "Aqua Ribbon for winning the Wallace Cup (Strategy with a Smile!)" or "Aqua Ribbon (Strategy with a Smile!) (for winning the Wallace Cup)" be sufficient? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:18, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
::Well, I've learnt not fight you people too much over what ''I'' think is right, so as long as it mentions that "Wallace Cup", I'm happy with what you think is best.
::But to me the first suggestion seems a little "clumsy", though, as it [[Dawn_(anime)#Contests|deviates]] a bit too much from the rest and as a sentence might make you think <nowiki>'</nowiki>''well, why not name all the other Cups too?''<nowiki>'</nowiki> (which I don't think even have names).
::I'd personally go with either of these (the first one is yours):
::* {{DL|Ribbon|Aqua}} Ribbon (''[[DP079|Strategy with a Smile!]]'') (for winning the [[Wallace Cup]])
::* {{DL|Ribbon|Aqua}} Ribbon (for winning the [[Wallace Cup]] in ''[[DP079|Strategy with a Smile!]]'')
::--'''[[User:Det|Det]][[User talk:Det|talk]]''' 19:55, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

== Logical quotes ==

Should we just leave it the way it was when added, first come/first serve? [[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] ([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]]) 15:18, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
:I don't normally believe in compromising on ideological grounds, but in this case it's in my favor, so I suppose so. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:26, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

== Scientific Trivia ==

Sorry to bother you, but could you help me understand a little better why you thought the piece of trivia on Steelix's page shouldn't have been there? I know it's no big deal, but pointing out something that is scientifically incorrect seems like a valid thing to put in a trivia section to me. [[User:Aggron989|''AGG'']][[User talk:Aggron989|''RON'']][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|''989'']] 00:54, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
:For the same reason that trivia about {{p|Wailord}} being less dense than air has been repeatedly removed from its page — it has to make assumptions about the Pokemon world working the same way as ours, when it clearly doesn't. Aside from the existence of Pokemon themselves, there are tons and tons of other completely ridiculous things in the Pokedex — Alakazam having an IQ of 5000, Ponyta's hooves being harder than diamonds, etc. Simply put, the Pokedex is just not a place for any kind of scientific data that makes sense in our world. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:12, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
::I hope you'll pardon the intrusion, but I'd also note that Steelix's entries only say its composition is diamond''like'', not that it is necessarily ''made of'' diamonds. (Others even say it is ''harder'' than diamonds, which should imply that it ''cannot'' be made of them.) So the trivia point was off the mark in the first place. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:29, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

== Shuckle trivia ==

Couldn't Shuckle potentially get Ice Ball through Mimic?--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 20:47, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
:True. That wasn't listed in any of the original discussion about the trivium, though, so I hope it's understandable that I overlooked it, especially since Shuckle can't even get Mimic unless it's migrated forward all the way from FRLG or XD. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:52, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

==Mega stat trivia==
Just so you know, Dennou made it [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi#Type/stat superlative trivia|pretty clear]] that that was just an opinion and is by no means binding. Now, I've seen SnorlaxMonster remove such trivia as well, so it's basically a ''de facto'' rule. I only decided to add the exclusion rather than remove the whole trivia because there has been no official rule. In my opinion, Mega Evolutions are not like pseudo-legendaries for several reasons: they are alternate forms, not just unusually strong Pokémon; they are not just a fan designation based on stats; and they are temporary, in-battle-only changes, which basically makes them no different than a stat-boosting move. As you can see from [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Archeops_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&curid=116027&diff=2114172&oldid=2114166 our edits], someone thought it notable that Archeops had the highest BST of all Fossil Pokémon, a group with only 11 members. I'd say that small groups like Fossils or Babies or starters should only note the highest BST, while larger groups like types and legendaries should note each highest stat as well. (Sorry for the essay, lol). --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|The]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|Best]] 05:21, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
:And in my opinion, any opinion by a staff member, even if explicitly non-binding, is better than having no policy at all, and is thus good enough to apply until another staff member disagrees. But I see your point, and agree that small groups shouldn't note such things. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:58, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

==Pokédex trivia==
Nice work on dealing with removing all the trivia from those Pokédex trivia pages. Just so you are aware the only reason I added that trivia piece for the Kanto Pokédex regarding Magnemite and Magneton was that my attempt to alter the template itself regarding that information itself failed when I previewed it, so I decided to add that trivia piece instead. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 22:48, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
:Yeah, it makes more sense for it to be a trivia point than to try to jury-rig the templates in a way that probably wouldn't even end up being very clear to the average reader. :) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:04, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
::Plus unlike Johto, it did not require the creation of another Pokédex page, anyway thanks for the update on the trivia, as long as it serves its original purpose I don't mind if the wording is changed. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 23:12, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
:::Also one other thing to point out is let's wait until more concrete details regarding the Pokédex for the Ruby and Sapphire remakes is confirmed to affect what decision will be made regarding the Pokédex listings for Hoenn, especially since many of the Pokémon listed in it now have the Fairy-type attached to them which would only end with either a new page or a need for a new trivia piece. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 23:26, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

== Roxie ==

I know where you're coming from, but for me, it doesn't matter whether the bass is left or right hand oriented. One can see that for themselves without the article having to tel them that.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:00, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
:And that's a much better (and more communicative) reason than "other people have removed it." [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:15, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

== Bestow ==

I am quite surprised this happened! What I did on Bestow's page was remove 'In other generations' section, for the reason that it is still the image from Generation V which goes in the main infobox and it is hence pointless to create a separate section for the same image. As you might check with moves like {{m|Snarl}}, and {{m|Simple Beam}}, and {{m|Entrainment}}, no 'In other generations' has been mentioned on their pages as well due to the same reason. So I would like to ask what prompted you to revert my edits (and call me a vandal on the top of that; it really hurt me!) when a similar pattern is followed for other Generation V moves. [[User:Harryghost|Harryghost]] ([[User talk:Harryghost|talk]]) 11:47, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
:My bad. Somehow I managed to think the infobox image was from Gen VI — although now I can't comprehend why I would think that, as it's clearly pixelated rather than a 3D model. Vandalism was the only reason that occurred to me for why someone would remove what I thought was not a redundant image. I humbly apologize. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:33, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

== That J episode ==

https://youtu.be/v1xysHR0jsM?t=983

The only reason they didn't die was that they were lucky enough for Gardevoir to Teleport them. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 06:01, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

== Zapdos edit ==

Thanks for the edit you recently made to Zapdos's page.[[User:Ratchet and Clank 1995|Ratchet and Clank 1995]] ([[User talk:Ratchet and Clank 1995|talk]]) 18:45, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

== Nature Power revert ==

How is that self evident? The point of the articles is to educate the reader on the intricacies of the moves, and it can't do that if information is left up in the air. in your rationel, it should be evident that Hidden Power is affected by the abilities, however that is not the case. Hidden Power is a normal type move, but it is not treated as one by the ability.

Moves behave in all kinds of unpredictable ways, like how Curse places a curse on the user if they have protean.

For all the reader knows, if a Pokemon has acquired Refrigerate and then uses Nature Power while Electric Terrain is on the field, the move would be a Ice-type thunderbolt just like how Normalize makes Thunderwave a normal-type move that can bypass ground's immunity. The problem is, it won't, so if you try to use Nature Power against a ground type in this scenario, all you're going to do is throw away a move because it'll still be immune. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:51, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
:It's self-evident because Nature Power is merely "calling" the other move in the same way Metronome does. Since "called moves act the same as they do if they're used normally" is a general rule, it's only exceptions to that rule that need to be noted, since a reader can always easily navigate to the called move's page to read about it. If we wrote about every called move's interactions with everything else in the game (especially, god forbid, on a page like Metronome) it would balloon out of control. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:15, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

== Zygarde ==

Bringing this up here before I do any further edits. The Zygarde section seems to put a lot of emphasis on trying to justify the Loki's children theory, and Norse mythology in general. Leaving little room for other interpretations. If you want to trim down the section I suggest removing a lot of the justification for these theories too. Like how are long lines fine like this one: ''Zygarde Complete Forme may be based on Hel, the ruler of {{wp|Hel (location)|Helheim}}, the realm of the dead in Nordic myth. She is often depicted as a half alive and half dead being, which may have inspired Zygarde's theme of balance between life and death.'' But a short note that Complete may be based on a combined Mecha not? Complete has a very strong physical appearance and generally looks inorganic, this in contrast to Hel who is frail. The Mecha note can help give insight into that.

Flatworms being able to form into bigger multi-cellular creatures is incorrect, they can just split into several individuals if cut in two, but not actually merge. Flatworms should either be left out of that sentence completely or get their own specifying that case. I support the first. Also I think Euglena is worth mentioning because they are the creatures that visually look the most like Zygarde Core, on top of the photosynthesis link. [[User:Petrichor|Petrichor]] ([[User talk:Petrichor|talk]]) 05:38, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
:I'm just trying to avoid excessive detail. Which interpretations get focus and which don't are something that I have no particular stance on. The Norse mythology thing has been heavily pushed by other users, though, so I've been hesitant to trim it because people tend to throw a fit when it's trimmed. But you're more than welcome to try to do so yourself if you want. As for flatworms, sorry about that. I'll adjust that clause. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:13, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

== Ar-KAY-Us ==

Why did you undo my edit? I've seen the promotional trailer, it clearly says "Ar-KAY-us". [[User:CrashBash|CrashBash]] ([[User talk:CrashBash|talk]]) 13:43, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
:Apologies. That trivium had stood like that for a ''very'' long time without anyone objecting, you left no edit summary to explain, and we often have vandals who change minor things for apparently no reason but enjoyment of seeing subtle wrongness go unnoticed, so I assumed you were one of those vandals. It seems you were perhaps instead just correcting something one of those vandals had slipped in long ago. Sorry for the misunderstanding. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 14:54, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
::OK, it's cool. Thing is, I've seen lots of videos discussing the various pronunciations of Arceus' name, and whilst I have found one for Ar-KAY-us, I have never found one for Ar-SAY-us other than a passing comment. [[User:CrashBash|CrashBash]] ([[User talk:CrashBash|talk]]) 15:46, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

== Legendary Pokémon anime vs games ==

You've been a small part of the recent back and forth on [[Legendary Pokémon]], so I just want to make sure you know, it's been edited back and forth quite enough. If you happen to still have an opinion about it, let's move the issue to a talk page.

Please. Thank you. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:58, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

==GenII+ Base Stats for Kanto Pokemon==
Can you find me a sortable list of GenII base stats for only the 151 Kanto Pokemon? I need it to be Kanto Pokemon only, I can't have all the others crowding the list, because they're not in Pokemon GO yet. Right now I'm using the [[Bulbapedia:Sandbox]], but I don't want to use the sandbox every time to view it.
[[User:Damian001|Damian001]] ([[User talk:Damian001|talk]]) 18:05, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
:The only lists I know of are the [[List of Pokémon by base stats]] page and the related pages linked at the top of it. Sorry I can't help you any more than that. If you don't want to use the sandbox, you can make enough productive edits elsewhere on the wiki to become {{bp|autoconfirmed}}, then use a user subpage. I know this probably isn't the answer you want to hear, but it's the only one I know. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:10, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

==Reggie==
Hi there! Would you please explain why you removed [[Reggie]] from the "Other participants" section in the article for the [[Lily of the Valley Conference]]? The reason you gave in the edit summary is really not good enough.

As you must know, our articles can be {{cat|Articles needing more information|incomplete}}. It's not because Reggie's participation in the League isn't mentioned on his article that you should go and remove it from other pages. Your edit created an inconsistency because Reggie is still listed as a participant in the pages for the [[Indigo Plateau Conference|Indigo]], [[Silver Conference|Silver]], and [[Ever Grande Conference]]s.

As a rule of thumb, you should always look for a source or watch the episodes yourself instead of guessing. And if I had to guess, I'd say the chances of him having participated in these League tournaments are high considering he got eight Badges from Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh. --[[User:Mikuri|'''Mi''']][[User talk: Mikuri|'''ku''']][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|'''ri''']] 00:20, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
:True, our articles can be incomplete. But the same user who added it had just had [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Lily_of_the_Valley_Conference&diff=2474800&oldid=2474773 other contributions to the same article reverted], so I thought the odds were more likely that it was another bad contribution than that several of our pages were wrong. We can't simply rely on "the chances" of him having participated based on the number of his Badges; someone must cite the episode in which it's explicitly stated that he had participated in the past. The onus of proof is on the side trying to change the status quo, and the status quo for years has been that he hasn't been listed as a prior participant. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:27, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
::Nowhere did I say we should assume things and rely on the chances of something being correct. On the contrary, I suggested you to look for a source and, failing that, to watch the episode and see it for yourself. If I *had* to guess, I would say Reggie did compete in these League tournaments, ''but I don't have to''. I was simply telling you to check your facts before creating inconsistencies. In the future, don't assume. Thank you. --[[User:Mikuri|'''Mi''']][[User talk: Mikuri|'''ku''']][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|'''ri''']] 02:31, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

== What happened to my edit? ==

I noticed that you recently got rid of my Beedrill edit. I read your user page, so I don't know why you would delete my edit completely. I was hoping you could elaborate?[[User:Grass4Lyfe|Grass4Lyfe]] ([[User talk:Grass4Lyfe|talk]]) 15:38, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

User talk:Jo The Marten

2016-07-31T15:32:34Z

Grass4Lyfe: /* Why was my edit reverted??? */ new section

Beedrill (Pokémon)

2016-07-30T23:29:23Z

Grass4Lyfe: Added cameo appearance of Beedrill in Steven Universe

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'''Beedrill''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''スピアー''' ''Spear'') is a dual-type {{2t|Bug|Poison}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Kakuna}} starting at [[level]] 10. It is the final form of {{p|Weedle}}. It can [[Mega Evolution|Mega Evolve]] into '''Mega Beedrill''' using the {{DL|Mega Stone|Beedrillite}}.

==Biology==
Beedrill mostly resembles a bipedal, yellow wasp; however, it only has four legs instead of six and lacks {{wp|pigment pits}}. Beedrill's head is round with a slightly pointed mouth, large, red eyes, and black antennae with a sharp bend in the middle. Its forelegs are tipped with long, conical stingers. It stands on its other two legs, which are long, segmented, and insectoid in shape. Beedrill has two pairs of rounded, veined wings, and another stinger on its yellow-and-black striped abdomen.

As Mega Beedrill, its gains more defined features. The antennae are shorter and now extent forward and back over its head. Its eyes become longer and sleeker. It now has three pairs of wings; the uppermost pair is larger with a black trim along the top. Its stingers become longer and larger, resembling javelins. Its legs are no longer insectoid, and instead resemble conical, black-and-yellow stingers with white tips. Its abdomen becomes larger and grooved, and is attached to its thorax by a black structure. A similar black structure connects its head and thorax. The stinger on its abdomen is now a pale yellow, and it now has black stripes over its entire body. Fast-acting poison is stored in the stingers on its limbs, while the tail stinger produces a slow-acting poison that is used to finish opponents. The instantaneous poisons are instead used to prevent the foe from fleeing. <ref name= "Mega">http://www.pokemonrubysapphire.com/en-us/pokemon/new-mega-evolutions/mega-beedrill</ref>

Beedrill is highly territorial and normally lives in colonies. As seen in [[EP004|the anime]], Beedrill seems to be especially concerned with the welfare of {{p|Weedle}} and {{p|Kakuna}}, and it will respond aggressively to those that disturb them. Disturbing a swarm of Beedrill will cause the whole colony to attack. It flies at high speed and attacks using the large venomous stingers on its forelegs and abdomen. The two stingers on its forelimbs allow it to use its former [[signature move]], {{m|Twineedle}}. It will take the victims of its attacks back to its nest for food. Beedrill nests in {{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Forest Pokémon|forests}} and misty wooded areas.

==In the anime==
[[File:Beedrill anime.png|thumb|220px|left|Beedrill in the anime]]
[[File:Mega Beedrill anime.png|thumb|220px|left|Mega Beedrill in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
====[[Casey's Beedrill|Ash's/Casey's Beedrill]]====
Ash captured a Beedrill in the [[Bug-Catching Contest]], but he gave it to {{an|Casey}} because she is a huge fan of yellow and black Pokémon. Multiple Beedrill also appeared in the same episode.

====Other====
Beedrill's first non-cameo appearance was in ''[[EP004|Challenge of the Samurai]]'', where a swarm of them stole [[Ash's Metapod]] after evolving from {{p|Kakuna}}. The reason for this was to avenge Ash for failing to capture the {{p|Weedle}} (and startling it), which subsequently fled after Samurai arrived. The Beedrill reappeared in a flashback in ''[[EP015|Battle Aboard the St. Anne]]''.

In ''[[EP077|The Fourth Round Rumble]]'' a Trainer named [[Jeanette Fisher]] used a Beedrill against [[Ash's Bulbasaur]]. It reappeared in a flashback in ''[[EP080|Friends to the End]]''.

In ''[[EP084|The Lost Lapras]]'', [[Three punks|an obnoxious Trainer]] who was attacking a {{AP|Lapras}} had a Beedrill.

{{jo|Jimmy}} of [[New Bark Town]] owns a Beedrill which was seen in ''[[The Legend of Thunder!]]''

During ''[[M09|Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]]'', [[Galen]] used two Beedrill to chase Ash and his friends.

Multiple Beedrill appeared in ''[[BW124|Danger, Sweet as Honey!]]'', evolving from a group of Kakuna.

A swarm of Beedrill appeared in ''[[XY003|A Battle of Aerial Mobility!]]'', chasing {{Ash}}, {{an|Clemont}} and {{an|Bonnie}} because Clemont's phonograph attracted the Poison Bee Pokémon instead of the {{AP|Fletchling}} he was trying to attract.

Another swarm of Beedrill appeared in ''[[XY016|A Jolting Switcheroo!]]'', where they were chasing [[Lena]] and {{TP|Clemont|Dedenne}}, but they all were defeated by {{AP|Pikachu}} and Dedenne.

A Beedrill appeared in ''[[XY041|Foggy Pokémon Orienteering!]]'' when it was disturbed by {{an|Bonnie}} and {{AP|Pikachu}}, who has been hit by a big twig on its head caused by Bonnie, but it quickly got away before Pikachu was about to attack it.

Three Beedrill appeared in ''[[XY045|Splitting Heirs!]]''.

Multiple Beedril appeared in ''[[XY069|Defending the Homeland!]]''. They are one of {{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|Florges}}'s minions who orders them to attack {{AP|Goodra}}'s homeland. They appeared again in ''[[XY070|Beyond the Rainbow!]]''.

Three Beedrill appeared in ''[[XY104|A Windswept Encounter!]]''.

A Beedrill that can Mega Evolve appeared in [[M19]], under the control of [[Dohga]] and {{OBP|Ether|M19}}'s Mega Wave.

===Minor appearances===
Beedrill has appeared in a lot of episodes, mostly having an antagonistic role to Ash and {{ashfr}} who are usually attacked by a swarm of Beedrill and end up running away.

A Beedrill appeared in ''[[EP008|The Path to the Pokémon League]]'' under the ownership of [[A.J.]].

In a flashback of ''[[EP053|The Purr-fect Hero]]'', {{OBP|Timmy|EP053}} was saved from a Beedrill by a {{p|Meowth}}.

Multiple Beedrill appeared in ''[[EP065|Showdown at the Po-ké Corral]]'', where they attacked {{TRT}}.

A Beedrill, under the ownership of an unnamed Trainer, appeared in a flashback in ''[[EP095|A Shipful of Shivers]]''.

A Beedrill appeared in ''[[EP097|Tracey Gets Bugged]]'', where it blew {{TRT}}'s balloon.

A Beedrill was seen in a fantasy in ''[[EP116|The Rivalry Revival]]''.

A Beedrill appeared in ''[[EP121|Illusion Confusion!]]'' as an illusion created by {{p|Haunter}} and {{p|Gengar}}.

Multiple Beedrill attacked {{Ash}} and {{ashfr}} in ''[[EP143|Going Apricorn!]]'' while they were looking for Apricorns.

Multiple Beedrill appeared in ''[[EP132|For Crying Out Loud]]'' and ''[[EP152|Hot Matches!]]'' where they attacked {{Ash}} and {{ashfr}}.

Multiple Beedrill appeared in ''[[Mewtwo Returns]]'', ''[[M04|Celebi: Voice of the Forest]]'', ''[[M05|Pokémon Heroes: Latios & Latias]]'' and ''[[M07|Destiny Deoxys]]''.

A swarm of Beedrill also appeared in ''[[EP170|A Better Pill to Swallow]]'' where they were attracted by the {{p|Shuckle}} juice that {{TRT}} drank. Three Beedrill appeared in the same episode as part of {{an|Brock}}'s fantasy.

Multiple Beedrill attacked [[Ash's Bayleef]] in ''[[EP200|Turning Over A New Bayleef]]'' after she kicked a rock in the bush they were residing.

Three Beedrill were among the inhabitants of an oasis just for Pokémon in ''[[EP207|Got Miltank?]]''.

In ''[[EP228|Extreme Pokémon!]]'', a Beedrill appeared with its Trainer, participating in the [[Extreme Pokémon Race]].

Multiple Beedrill appeared in ''[[AG006|A Poached Ego!]]'' where they attacked {{TRT}}.

A Beedrill was used by one of the students of the [[Pokémon Trainer's School]] in ''[[AG015|Gonna Rule The School!]]''.

A Beedrill is used in the [[PokéRinger]] Contest in ''[[AG080|That's Just Swellow]]''.

A Beedrill appeared in a flashback in ''[[XY013|Kindergarten Chaos!]]''.

A Beedrill appeared in ''[[XY019|A Conspiracy to Conquer!]]'', where it was mind controlled by {{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|an evil, psychopathic Malamar}}.

A Beedrill that can [[Mega Evolution|Mega Evolve]] into Mega Beedrill appeared in ''[[SS031|Mega Evolution Special II]]''.

Multiple Beedrill appeared in a flashback in ''[[XY063|A Fork in the Road! A Parting of the Ways!]]''.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Kanto}}
{{Animedexbody|EP004|Beedrill|Ash's Pokédex|Beedrill. This Pokémon is an evolved form of {{p|Weedle}}, following its {{p|Kakuna}} stage. Its {{m|Poison Sting|sting}} is highly poisonous.}}
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{{Animedexheader|Unova}}
{{Animedexbody|BW124|Beedrill|Ash's Pokédex|Beedrill, the Poison Bee Pokémon. Beedrill fly quickly and attack using poison stingers on their fore legs and tail.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Black & White''|Unova}}

==In the manga==
[[File:Beedrill PMRS.png|thumb|200px|Beedrill in Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire]]
===In The Electric Tale of Pikachu manga===
In the [[The Electric Tale of Pikachu]] manga, Ash caught a Beedrill in Kanto, and it was part of a swarm that he had disturbed when he caught a {{p|Mankey}}. He thought this Beedrill, along with Mankey, would help him to raise his Trainer level, but it couldn't.

===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
In ''[[PS012|Wake Up—You’re Snorlax!]]'' a herd of angry Beedrill attacked {{adv|Red}} because [[Saur]] accidentally hit their hive. Both the Trainer and his Pokémon were badly stung afterwards.

Later a Beedrill appeared as a silhouette when {{adv|Green}} explains about {{p|Mew}} in ''[[PS017|The Jynx Jinx]]''.

{{adv|Giovanni}} uses a Beedrill three times later on, first against Red at [[Viridian Gym]] in ''[[PS037|Golly, Golem!]]'' and ''[[PS038|Long Live the Nidoqueen!?]]'', then against [[Lance]] on [[Cerise Island]] in ''[[PS088|The Beedrill All and End All]]'', and finally against {{adv|Deoxys}} on [[Birth Island]] alongside his {{p|Aggron}} in ''[[PS283|It Takes Patience, Knowledge and a Really Quick Beedrill]]''. Giovanni has stated that it is one of his most treasured and strongest team members as he caught in his childhood at [[Viridian Forest]], which eventually helped {{adv|Yellow}} when facing [[Lance]]. It is also one of the few members of his team that isn't a {{type|Ground}}.

In ''[[PS119|A Flaaffy Kerfuffle]]'' a Beedrill appeared where it was one of the Pokémon in {{adv|Professor Oak}}'s fantasy when he explains that trainers should only have six Pokémon with them.

===In the Pokémon Pocket Monsters manga===
A Beedrill appeared in ''[[PMRS51|Clefairy's New Power!]]'' of Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire.

==In the TCG==
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==In the TFG==
One Beedrill figure has been released.

*{{TFG|Next Quest}}: {{TFG ID|Next Quest|Beedrill|26}}

==Other appearances==
===Super Smash Bros.===
Beedrill was in the first [[Super Smash Bros.]] game. When a [[Poké Ball]] was opened, one would come out and fly away. A few seconds later a whole swarm would fly by and attack everyone on the field with {{m|Take Down}} except the user. Its role was taken over by {{p|Unown}} in [[Super Smash Bros. Melee]].

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
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{{Dex/Entry1|v=Emerald|t=FFF|entry=A Beedrill is extremely territorial. For safety reasons, no one should ever approach its nest. If angered, they will attack in a swarm.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=FireRed|entry=May appear in a swarm. Flies at violent speeds, all the while stabbing with the toxic stinger on its rear.}}
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{{Dex/Gen|gen=IV}}
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{{Dex/Entry1|v=HeartGold|entry=It can take down any opponent with its powerful poison stingers. It sometimes attacks in swarms.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=SoulSilver|entry=It has three poison barbs. The barb on its tail secretes the most powerful poison.}}
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{{Dex/Gen|gen=V}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black|v2=White|t=FFF|entry=Its best attack involves flying around at high speed, striking with poison needles, then flying off.}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|t=FFF|entry=Its best attack involves flying around at high speed, striking with poison needles, then flying off.}}
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{{Dex/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=X|t=FFF|entry=May appear in a swarm. Flies at violent speeds, all the while stabbing with the toxic stinger on its rear.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Y|entry=It has three poisonous stingers on its forelegs and its tail. They are used to jab its enemy repeatedly.}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Omega Ruby|v2=Alpha Sapphire|t=FFF|t2=FFF|entry=Beedrill is extremely territorial. No one should ever approach its nest—this is for their own safety. If angered, they will attack in a furious swarm.}}
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====In side games====
{{Availability/Header|type=Bug|type2=Poison}}
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===Held items===
{{HeldItems
|type=bug|type2=poison
|rby1=Bitter Berry|rby1type=Berry (Generation II)|rby1image=no|rby1rar=100
|gsc1=Poison Barb|gsc1type=Type-enhancing item|gsc1rar=8
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|bl1=Poison Barb|bl1type=Type-enhancing item|bl1rar=5
|bl21=Poison Barb|bl21type=Type-enhancing item|bl21rar=5
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
=====Generation I-V=====
{{BaseStats with RBY
|HP= 65
|Attack= 80
|Defense=40
|SpAtk= 45
|SpDef= 80
|Special=45
|Speed= 75
|type=Bug
|type2=Poison }}

=====Generation VI=====
{{BaseStats
|HP= 65
|Attack= 90
|Defense=40
|SpAtk= 45
|SpDef= 80
|Speed= 75
|type=Bug
|type2=Poison }}

=====Mega Beedrill=====
{{Base Stats
|type=Bug
|type2=poison
|HP=65
|Attack=150
|Defense=40
|SpAtk=15
|SpDef=80
|Speed=145}}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Bug
|type2=Poison
|Speed=3
|SpeedMax=4
|Power=1
|PowerMax=4
|Technique=3
|TechniqueMax=4
|Stamina=2
|StaminaMax=2
|Jump=5
|JumpMax=5
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{TypeEffectiveness
|type1=bug
|type2=poison
|Normal= 100
|Fighting= 25
|Flying= 200
|Poison= 50
|Ground= 100
|Rock= 200
|Bug= 50
|Ghost= 100
|Steel= 100
|Fire= 200
|Water= 100
|Grass= 25
|Electric=100
|Psychic= 200
|Ice= 100
|Dragon= 100
|Dark= 100
|Fairy=50
|notes=yes
|gen1bug=yes
|gen1poison=yes
|oldbug=2
|oldpoison=1}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh/6|Beedrill|Bug|Poison|1|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/level6|1|Fury Attack|Normal|Physical|15|85|20|||Cool|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|10|Fury Attack|Normal|Physical|15|85|20|||Cool|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|13|Focus Energy|Normal|Status|—|—|30|||Cool|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|16|Twineedle|Bug|Physical|25|100|20||'''|Cool|2|1}}
{{learnlist/level6|19|Rage|Normal|Physical|20|100|20|||Tough|1|3}}
{{learnlist/level6|22|Pursuit|Dark|Physical|40|100|20|||Clever|2|1}}
{{learnlist/level6|25|Toxic Spikes|Poison|Status|—|—|20|||Clever|2|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|28|Pin Missile|Bug|Physical|25|95|20||'''|Cool|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|31|Agility|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|||Cool|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|34|Assurance|Dark|Physical|60|100|10|||Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|37|Poison Jab|Poison|Physical|80|100|20||'''|Tough|4|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|40|Endeavor|Normal|Physical|—|100|5|||Tough|2|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|45|Fell Stinger|Bug|Physical|30|100|25||'''|Cool|1|0}}
{{learnlist/levelf/6|Beedrill|Bug|Poison|1}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh/6|Beedrill|Bug|Poison|1|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM09|Venoshock|Poison|Special|65|100|10||'''|Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|60|100|15|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|||Cool|4|4}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM19|Roost|Flying|Status|—|—|10|||Clever|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|||Cute|2|3}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM22|Solar Beam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|||Cool|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|||Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM31|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15|||Cool|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|||Cool|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM36|Sludge Bomb|Poison|Special|90|100|10||'''|Tough|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM40|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|||Cool|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM46|Thief|Dark|Physical|60|100|25|||Tough|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15|||Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM54|False Swipe|Normal|Physical|40|100|40|||Cool|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM62|Acrobatics|Flying|Physical|55|100|15|||Cool|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM66|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10|||Tough|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM68|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|||Tough|4|4}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM70|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|||Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM75|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|20|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM76|Struggle Bug|Bug|Special|50|100|20||'''|Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM81|X-Scissor|Bug|Physical|80|100|15||'''|Cool|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM83|Infestation|Bug|Special|20|100|20||'''|Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM84|Poison Jab|Poison|Physical|80|100|20||'''|Tough|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM88|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM89|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20||'''|Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM94|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|{{sup/6|XY}}||Tough|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM94|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|{{sup/6|ORAS}}||Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM100|Confide|Normal|Status|—|—|20|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|HM01|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30|||Cool|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|HM06|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|{{sup/6|ORAS}}||Tough|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tmf/6|Beedrill|Bug|Poison|1}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh/6|Beedrill|Bug|Poison|2|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/breed6null}}
{{learnlist/breedf/6|Beedrill|Bug|Poison|2}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh/6|Beedrill|Bug|Poison|2|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Bug Bite|Bug|Physical|60|100|20||'''|no|yes|Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Drill Run|Ground|Physical|80|95|10|||no|yes|Tough|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Electroweb|Electric|Special|55|95|15|||no|yes|Beautiful|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Endeavor|Normal|Physical|—|100|5|||no|yes|Tough|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Giga Drain|Grass|Special|75|100|10|||no|yes|Clever|1|4}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Knock Off|Dark|Physical|65|100|25|||no|yes|Clever|2|3}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Snore|Normal|Special|50|100|15|||no|yes|Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Tailwind|Flying|Status|—|—|15|||no|yes|Cool|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tutorf/6|Beedrill|Bug|Poison|2}}

====By a prior [[evolution]]====
{{learnlist/prevoh/6|Beedrill|Bug|Poison|1|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/prevo6|013|Weedle|||||Poison Sting|Poison|Physical|15|100|35|'''|Clever|2|3}}
{{learnlist/prevo6|013|Weedle|||||String Shot|Bug|Status|—|95|40||Clever|2|3}}
{{learnlist/prevo6|013|Weedle|||||Bug Bite|Bug|Physical|60|100|20|'''|Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/prevo6|014|Kakuna|||||Harden|Normal|Status|—|—|30||Tough|2|0}}
{{learnlist/prevo6|014|Kakuna|t||||Iron Defense|Steel|Status|—|—|15||Tough|1|0|ORAS}}
{{learnlist/prevof/6|Beedrill|Bug|Poison|1}}

====[[Anime move errors|Anime-only moves]]====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{bug color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{poison color}}"
! Move
! Type
! Episode
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{m|Tackle}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{typecolor|Normal}}
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | ''[[EP077|The Fourth Round Rumble]]''
|}

===Side game data===
{{Spindata/Head|type=Bug|type2=Poison}}
{{Spindata/Pinball|col=3|type=Bug|ndex=015|acquisition=Evolve|evolved=yes}}
{{Spindata/Trozei|col=3|type=Bug|ndex=015|rarity=Rare}}
|-
{{Spindata/MDRB|col=6|type=Bug|ndex=015
|body=1
|rate=Evolve
|area=Mist-Rise Forest
|P1=Count on me for speediness!
|P2=My health dropped to half...
|P3=I'm about done. My {{m|Poison Sting}} might fail...
|PL=Hah! Leveled up! My Poison Sting's gotten sharper!
}}
|-
{{Spindata/MDTDS|col=6|type=Bug|ndex=015
|body=1
|rate=5
|IQ=A
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Ranger|col=6|type=Bug
|group=Bug
|assist=Poison
|fieldpower=1
|field=Crush
|loop=3
|MinEXP=32
|MaxEXP=46
|browser=Beedrill shoots sharp needles that can shatter large rocks.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Ranger SoA|col=6|type=Bug
|group=Bug
|assist=Bug
|field=Crush
|fieldpower=2
|browser=It attacks with poison stingers while flying around at high speed.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Rumble|col=3|type=Bug
|att=3
|def=2
|speed=3
}}
{{Spindata/RumbleBlast|col=3|type=Bug
|att=3
|def=2
|speed=3
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Conquest|col=6|type=Bug|ndex=015
|HP=3
|atk=2
|def=2
|spd=3
|range=3
|move=Twineedle
|ability1=Vanguard
|ability2=Mountaineer
|ability3=Swarm
|evo=Does not evolve into or from anything in this game
|link={{DL|List of Pokémon Conquest characters|Masatsuna}}, {{DL|List of Pokémon Conquest characters|Omi}}, and {{DL|List of Pokémon Conquest characters|Sena}}
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Shuffle|col=6|type=Poison|ndex=015|num=425
|min=60
|max=80
|raisemaxlevel=0
|skill=Block Smash
|skilldesc=Clears one unbreakable-block disruption without fail.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/GO|col=6|type=Bug|ndex=015
|hatch=N/A
|evolution=N/A
|stamina=130
|attack=144
|defense=130
|fast={{m|Bug Bite}}, {{m|Poison Jab}}
|special={{m|Sludge Bomb}}, {{m|Aerial Ace}}, {{m|X-Scissor}}
}}
|}

===Evolution===
{{Evobox-3
|type1=Bug
|type2=Poison
|pictype=art
|no1=013
|name1=Weedle
|type1-1=Bug
|type2-1=Poison
|evo1={{bag|Rare Candy}} {{color2|000|Level|Level 7}}
|no2=014
|name2=Kakuna
|type1-2=Bug
|type2-2=Poison
|evo2={{bag|Rare Candy}} {{color2|000|Level|Level 10}}
|no3=015
|name3=Beedrill
|type1-3=Bug
|type2-3=Poison}}

===Sprites===
{{Spritebox/Header|type=Bug|type2=Poison}}
{{Spritebox/1|ndex=015}}
{{Spritebox/2|ndex=015}}
{{Spritebox/3|ndex=015}}
{{Spritebox/4|ndex=015}}
{{Spritebox/5|ndex=015}}
{{Spritebox/6/2FormsORAS|ndex=015|form1=M}}
{{Spritebox/Footer|015|Beedrill}}

==Trivia==
* Beedrill's English name was [[Pokémon Red and Green beta#Pokémon names|originally]] going to be spelled ''Beedril''.
* Beedrill's [[Effort values|effort value]] [[List of Pokémon by effort value yield|yield]] of 2 Attack and 1 Special Defense is unique.
* Beedrill can be seen as a parallel to {{p|Butterfree}}. Both of their unevolved stages evolve into their respective first evolutionary stages at level 7, which then evolve into their respective final forms at level 10. They both also go through metamorphosis-like evolution and share a base stat total of 395. Also, while Beedrill is a version exclusive of Black and Black 2, Butterfree is exclusive to White and White 2.
* In [[Pokémon Conquest]], Beedrill is the only Pokémon that is featured without its evolutionary relatives.
* Prior to {{game|Black and White|s}}, it was the [[signature move|only known Pokémon]] to learn {{m|Twineedle}} by level up.
* Mega Beedrill was designed by [[Hitoshi Ariga]].<ref>[https://twitter.com/ariga_megamix/status/548085137955508224]</ref>
* Mega Beedrill has the highest {{stat|Attack}} and {{stat|Speed}} base stats of all {{type|Poison}} Pokémon. It also has the lowest {{stat|Special Attack}} base stat of all Poison-type and Mega Evolved Pokémon, the lowest {{stat|Defense}} of all Mega Evolved Pokémon, and the lowest single base stat of any Mega Evolved Pokémon.
*In the Cartoon Network show {{wp|Steven Universe}}, the episode titled Future Vision has two Beedrill-like creatures attacking the main character Steven when he pictures the various ways he could die.
===Origin===
Its design appears to simply be a stylized bee or {{wp|wasp}}. However, it has a much closer resemblance to an {{wp|Asian giant hornet}}. Its {{shiny}} form may be based on the ''{{wp|Agapostemon}}'', as both are green in color.

====Name origin====
Beedrill is a combination of ''{{wp|bee}}'' and ''{{wp|drill}}'' (indicating its needle-like arms).

Spear refers to its stingers. In addition, the reverse of スピアー is アピス ''Apis'' (the genus for the {{wp|honey bee}}).

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=bug|type2=poison
|ja=スピアー ''Spear''|jameaning=From ''spear''
|fr=Dardargnan|frmeaning=From ''{{wp|d'Artagnan}}'' and ''{{tt|dard|sting}}''
|es=Beedrill|esmeaning=Same as English name
|de=Bibor|demeaning=From ''{{tt|Biene|bee}}'' and ''{{tt|Bohrer|drill}}''
|it=Beedrill|itmeaning=Same as English name
|ko=독침붕 ''Tokchimbung''|komeaning=Combination of {{tt|독침 ''dokchim''|stinger; literally 'venom needle'}} and {{tt|붕 ''bung''|onomatopoeia for buzzing}}
|zh_yue=大針蜂 ''Daaihjāmfūng''|zh_yuemeaning=
|zh_cmn=大針蜂 / 大针蜂 ''Dàzhēnfēng''|zh_cmnmeaning=From {{tt|大 ''dà''|large}}, {{tt|蜂針 ''fēngzhēn''|stinger}}, and {{tt|蜂 ''fēng''|bee}}
|hu={{tt|Óriásméh|Mewtwo Returns only, where it was mistakenly translated}}|humeaning="Giant bee"
|hi=बीड्रिल ''Beedrill''|himeaning=Transcription of English name
|lt=Bitrilė|ltmeaning=From English name
|ru=Бидрилл ''Bidrill''|rumeaning=Transcription of English name
|th=สเปียร์ ''Spear''|thmeaning=Transcription of trademarked Japanese name
}}

 

==Related articles==
* [[Casey's Beedrill|Ash's/Casey's Beedrill]]

==External links==
* {{wp|Weedle, Kakuna, and Beedrill|Article on Wikipedia}}

==Notes==
<references />

{{Smash Bros.}}
{{PokémonPrevNext/Head|type=Bug|type2=Poison}}
{{PokémonPrevNext/Pokémon|type=Bug|prevnum=014|prev=Kakuna|nextnum=016|next=Pidgey|round=yes}}
|}
{{-}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}

[[Category:Shadow Pokémon in Pokémon XD]]
[[Category:Pokémon that are included in the Japan-only Pokémon Stadium]]

[[de:Bibor]]
[[fr:Dardargnan]]
[[it:Beedrill]]
[[ja:スピアー]]
[[pl:Beedrill]]
[[zh:大针蜂]]

XY031

2016-07-20T06:02:01Z

Grass4Lyfe: Added sentence about a hint towards Serena's feelings towards Ash

{{EpicodePrevNext|
prevcode=XY030 |
prevtitle=Mega Revelations! |
nextcode=XY032 |
nexttitle=The Aura Storm! |
series=XY series |
colorscheme=Kalos}}
{{EpisodeInfobox|
epcode=XY031 |
altepcode=EP830 |
colorscheme=Kalos|
screen=hd|
title_en=The Cave of Trials!|
title_ja=ルカリオVSバシャーモ！試練の洞窟！！|
title_ja_trans=Lucario VS Bursyamo! The Cave of Trials!! |
broadcast_jp=June 5, 2014 |
broadcast_us=August 16, 2014 |
en_series= |
en_op=[[Pokémon Theme|Pokémon Theme (Version XY)]] |
ja_op=[[V (Volt)|メガＶ（メガボルト）]] |
ja_ed=[[Peace Smile!|ピースマイル！]] |
olmteam=Team Kato |
scenario=面出明美 |
storyboardn=1 |
storyboard=尼野浩正 |
directorn=1 |
director=古賀一臣 |
artn=1 |
art=玉川明洋 |
morecredits=no |
epstaffpage=XY031-XY040|
footnotes=* {{filb-eppics|xy|031}}
* {{BMGf|165473|Preview thread on BMGf}} ''Closed''
* {{BMGf|166393|Original review thread on BMGf}}
* {{BMGf|168480|Dub review thread on BMGf}}
}}
'''The Cave of Trials!''' (Japanese: '''ルカリオVSバシャーモ！試練の洞窟！！''' ''Lucario VS {{tt|Bursyamo|Blaziken}}! The Cave of Trials!!'') is the 31st episode of the {{series|XY}}, and the 830th episode of the [[Pokémon anime]]. It first aired in Japan on June 5, 2014 and in the United States on August 16, 2014.
{{spoilers}}

==Blurb==

Our heroes and Shalour Gym Leader Korrina have arrived in Geosenge Town to look for a Lucarionite, the Mega Stone needed for Lucario's Mega Evolution. A photographer points them to a mountain cave but warns them it might be dangerous. Sure enough, when they get to the cave, the Team Rocket trio come flying out, propelled by some unseen force! But Korrina is determined to keep going.

Inside the cave, they find the Lucarionite—but it's guarded by a powerful Blaziken, who challenges Korrina and Lucario to a battle! It's a bad matchup for Lucario, and Blaziken's speed is intimidating. Korrina refuses to give up, and Lucario has almost won when someone calls the battle to a halt! It's Korrina's grandfather, the Mega Evolution guru known as Gurkinn. Now that Korrina has proven herself worthy, Gurkinn invites her to claim the Mega Stone she’s been looking for. Lucario's Mega Evolution is close at hand!

==Plot==
The gang arrives excited to [[Geosenge Town]], where the {{DL|Mega Stone|Lucarionite}} is located. However, [[Korrina]] does not know the actual location of the stone, only assuming she would because her grandfather told her she would know once she arrived at the town. After witnessing [[evolutionary stones]] in action, the group decides to split up to look for the Lucarionite in the surrounding shops, but to no avail. Due to their inability to attain information, {{an|Clemont}} deduces that the stone must be both valuable and rare. Korrina remembers her grandfather telling her that when the time is right, she will know what is needed for [[Mega Evolution]]. She resolves not to be discouraged.

Just then, a photographer appears, welcoming the travelers. He introduces himself as a local named [[McGinty]] and offers to take a souvenir photo of the trainers, to which they accept. While the photo is being taken, {{an|Serena}} can be seen moving closer to {{Ash}}. He tells the group that evolutionary stones can be found in the caves within the surrounding mountains. Though McGinty does not know what a Lucarionite is, he does know of a remote cave in which a special stone can be found. He warns them, however, that if someone unqualified may enter the cave, something terrifying will happen. However, Korrina is unfazed, if not more determined. From behind a rock, {{TRT}} listens. They decide to reach the cave first and steal the [[Mega Stone]], as well as capture {{AP|Pikachu}}. The group receives their souvenir pictures and heads off in search of the Lucarionite. As he watches them go, McGinty wonders if that was what [[Gurkinn]] wanted.

Up on the mountain, Team Rocket works on disguising the entrance to the cave, hoping to mislead the trainers while entering the cave themselves. It is initially effective, as the travelers, led by Korrina, pass it by. Inside the cave, Team Rocket reach a door, while the trainers outside remain lost. Suddenly, {{TP|Korrina|Lucario}} senses the direction of the Lucarionite and blasts open the disguised road's entrance. A further ways down, it senses the mouth of the secret cave. Clemont produces a machine to make light in the dark passage, and the group prepares to set off.

However, the group is frightened by loud noises from the depths of the cave, and Team Rocket flies out, blasting off again. Despite the danger, Korrina is determined to find the stone, and the trainers advance into the cave. The party come to an open door, revealing a large chamber with a single path: leading to the Lucarionite. However, as Korrina and Lucario run down the path, they are blocked by a {{TP|Gurkinn|Blaziken}}, who begins to battle with Lucario. Korrina and Lucario realize that in order to get the stone, the pair must defeat Blaziken.

Korrina begins with Lucario's {{m|Power-Up Punch}}. Blaziken dodges and returns with a {{m|Blaze Kick}}, which hits its mark. Lucario, however, lands on its feet and dodges Blaziken's next series of successive Blaze Kicks. Korrina commands Lucario to use {{m|Metal Sound}}, which allows it to run up for a Power-Up Punch. Just as it seems the move is working, Blaziken sends Lucario to the ground with a {{m|Flamethrower}}. As Korrina runs for the downed Lucario, her souvenir photo falls from her pocket and burns in Blaziken's flames. She falls to the ground. Blaziken grabs Lucario by the head and throws it against the wall, where it falls to the water below. {{an|Serena}} decides she can't watch any longer, but Ash stops her from interfering, telling her that it is Korrina's fight.

Reminded of her will by Ash's words, Korrina gets Lucario to stand up. She commands it to use Power-Up Punch, and Lucario attacks Blaziken. Blaziken dodges Lucario's successive punches, but Lucario finally pins its opponent down with a {{m|Bone Rush}}. Just when Lucario is about to finish Blaziken off with another Power-Up Punch, a voice commands them to stop. From the shadows emerges Gurkinn, Korrina's grandfather and the [[Mega Evolution]] Guru, who tells Korrina she won. The Blaziken was his. He tells Korrina that he knew she would end up in the cave, and wanted to provide her final trial himself. Korrina finally takes the Lucarionite in her own hands.

Back from the mountains, the group and Gurkinn run into McGinty, who promises to print another picture for Korrina. The group is surprised to find out that McGinty knows Gurkinn, who admits that Gurkinn enlisted him to help with the final trial. The group congratulates Korrina for achieving her goal. Korrina finally uses Mega Evolution with Lucario for the first time.

==Major events==

* {{Ash}}, {{ashfr}}, and [[Korrina]] arrive in [[Geosenge Town]].
* {{an|Clemont}} is revealed to have obtained his {{TP|Clemont|Heliolisk}} as a {{p|Helioptile}}.
* Ash and his friends meet [[Gurkinn]], Korrina's grandfather, for the first time.
* Korrina obtains a {{DL|Mega Stone|Lucarionite}}.
* Korrina begins [[Mega Evolution|Mega Evolving]] her {{TP|Korrina|Lucario}} for the first time.
{{animeevents}}

===Debuts===
====Pokémon debuts====

==Characters==
===Humans===
[[File:Pokémon Quiz XY031.png|200px|thumb|right|Pokémon Quiz]]
* {{Ash}}
* {{an|Serena}}
* {{an|Clemont}}
* {{an|Bonnie}}
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]
* [[Korrina]]
* [[Gurkinn]]
* [[McGinty]]

===Pokémon===
[[File:WTP XY031.png|thumb|right|200px|Who's That Pokémon?]]
[[Who's That Pokémon?]]: {{p|Blaziken}} ''(US and international)'' [[Pokémon Quiz]]: {{p|Blaziken}} ''(Japan)''
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Wobbuffet}} ({{OP|Jessie|Wobbuffet}})
* {{p|Dedenne}} ({{OP|Clemont|Dedenne}})
* {{p|Lucario}} ({{OP|Korrina|Lucario}})
* {{p|Blaziken}} ([[Gurkinn]]'s)
* {{p|Helioptile}} (evolves)
* {{p|Heliolisk}} (newly evolved)
* {{p|Bibarel}}
* {{p|Smeargle}}
* {{p|Swirlix}}
* {{p|Ducklett}} (×3; rock sculptures)
* {{p|Meowth}} (×3; rock sculptures)
* {{p|Oddish}} (×5; rock sculptures)

==Trivia==
[[File:Title Card XY Korrina.png|thumb|200px|The title card segment focuses on Korrina for this episode]]
* [[Professor Oak's Pokémon Holo Caster]]: {{p|Dusknoir}}
* The title card for this episode focuses on [[Korrina]].
** This marks the first time that the title card doesn't focus on a main character.
* {{Ash}} and Korrina narrate the preview for the [[XY032|next episode]].
* Team Rocket didn't recite their motto in this episode.
* Music from ''[[M14|Pokémon the Movie: Black—Victini and Reshiram]]'' and ''[[M15|Kyurem VS. The Sword of Justice]]'' is used in this episode.
===Errors===
* In one scene, {{AP|Pikachu}}'s nose is missing.
* In some scenes, Korrina's right ear is colored the same way as her hair.
<gallery>
File:XY031 error.png|Pikachu, missing his nose
</gallery>

===Dub edits===

==In other languages==
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== Ash's Pikachu (EToP) & Winona's Altaria ==

I believe [[User:Pattyman/Ash's Pikachu (EToP)]] and [[User:Pattyman/Winona's Altaria]] are ready to be checked if they can be placed in the mainspace. The former is an important character in the Electric Tale of Pikachu with [[Ash Ketchum (EToP)|Ash]]'s also having the separate article while the latter has been involved in a lot in Pokémon Adventures aside from being Winona's signature Pokémon and appearing in the anime and games. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 02:25, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
:For Altaria, I'll still mainspace it, but is there any way to make the "In the games" section not stretch the screen, like on [[Morty's Gengar]]? I tried to do it myself but I am too dumb with code so I couldn't get it to work so I just left it. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:07, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
::I took care of the problem, thanks for letting me know. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 04:54, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
:::Thanks! It looks way better now. :) [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:18, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

== Brav ==

Is the page [[User:Rahl/Brav]] ready to be mainspaced?--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 13:58, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
:It looks pretty legit although I removed some broken file links in the switch cuz I noticed not all the pics in the switch actually had files to display. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 02:23, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

== Monlee ==

Is the page [[User:Rahl/Monlee]] ready to be mainspaced?--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 16:34, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
:It's been done. :D [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:14, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

== New cover Pokemon Adventures Spain ==

http://www.normaeditorial.com/libros_img/01300212701_g.jpg
The 27th cover {{unsigned|Ipsilon}}
:Ah, I was wondering when the next one would be released! Thanks for letting me know. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:14, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

== New template for the manga sections ==

Hey! :) How are you tonight? ^~^

I sent a message to Ataro asking him if this template (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Sandbox#Epichar) was ready to go into the manga rounds, but you just logged in, so I figured out, why not ask you? ^~^

I would start adding them as soon as you validate it and give me the go.

PS: Have you been able to find anything about my mysterious CD? [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 05:02, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
:I haven't had a chance to research the mysterious CD because I've been busy with my job and other things ^^' I will get to it when I can. Unfortunately, we've reviewed that template in the past (it's been on the sandbox for a while) and we've determined it isn't really needed at this time. It ultimately doesn't add anything substantial to the pages (plain text communicates the information perfectly fine) and between anime and manga articles, there would be well over 1000 pages that it would affect, so we would rather invest more focus on other, higher-priority projects, mainly adding new content as opposed to redecorating existing content. Sorry! [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:14, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

::it's okay, we all have a real life. :p but adding this template would add so much quality to the wiki since it's compact and sweet for the eyes. If this would happen, I would personally work on adding them, so you guys can concentrate on other things. And that's weird to me, since everytime I try to add new stuff it gets deleted for "unotability". Like, do you guys even want new stuff being added or what? Is it just me that doesn't understand something or what? Sadly, I am now only wandering the wiki, refreshing the recent changes page without knowing what to do. I really, really have motivation. I want to help, you might have noticed already, but there's nothing I can do apparently... :/ [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 06:56, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
:::Well, the template mentioned upthread is purely aesthetic - it's not actually adding any new information to the article, just presenting it differently. The fact of the matter is there is lots to do... but you specifically told me you weren't interested in the [[Special:WantedPages|wanted pages]] and you didn't seem really interested when I mentioned the [[Bulbapedia:Project Manga/To-do list|Manga to-do list]] or other similar projects ({{cat|Articles needing improvement}}, etc.) these are really the things that we need the most. Your manga plot summaries were good and that is an area we have very few contributors in - are you no longer interested in doing those? There are {{cat|Episode articles with incomplete plot summaries|890 articles with incomplete plot summaries}}, including anime episodes. We have many editors who like working on character articles, but there are some that still could use some help, particularly for more obscure series. I'm also still interested in starting a page for those Quebec French VHS tapes - I have five or six of them myself, but I've put it to the back burner because content that is not in English or Japanese is generally lower priority, but I did plan to make it one day, so if you are willing to help, that opportunity is still open too. That's just a short-term project though - the longer-term stuff is adding summaries (which there is a high reader demand for), keeping up on volume releases and chapter/round article creation, that sort of tedious stuff. Researching old merchandise and documenting it. It's tedious, sure, but that's the true backbone of the manga section. I see little value in adding templates to change the look of the pages when so many manga pages look like [[PMDP01|this]]. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:35, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

:::::It's not that I didn't want to anymore, it's just that it takes a lot of time to do these! :P But if you tell me that the ones I added were good. I will sure keep it up! :) As for the Quebec tapes, I'm just unsure about what I need to do. Give me specific requests and I'll gladly lend a hand! [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 03:49, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
::::::Forgot to mention that I also suggested to Ataro to add a navigation bar at the top of each rounds, just like for the anime episodes. [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 03:51, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
:::::::We actually had one a long time ago and it was abolished (I'm not entirely sure why, as that was before my time. I think it was considered redundant because the chapter info box already has the previous and next links in it). [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:46, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

== Celebi (Adventures) ==

Is the page [[User:Animaltamer7/Celebi (Adventures)‎]] good enough to be mainspaced?--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 03:39, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
:Also, is the page [[User:Rahl/Diamond's Rotom]] ready to be mainspaced?--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 01:54, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
::In addition how about the pages [[User:Rahl/Ruby's Plusle]] and [[User:Rahl/Sapphire's Minun]]?--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 03:13, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
:::Woah, sorry! I got busy with work and haven't had time to come to the computer for the last few days. I'll take a look at them right now. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:46, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

== And another more (Spanish cover) ==

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Caw9dxAW0AMo_bs.jpg The 3th {{unsigned|Ipsilon}}
:Thank you! [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:46, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

== Platinum's Lopunny ==

Is the page [[User:Rahl/Platinum's Lopunny‎]] good enough to be mainspaced?--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 00:34, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

== Covers of distinct countries ==

Hi, I give you some covers for Pokémon Adventures from some countries: 
Gold & Silver french omnibus 1: [http://extranet.editis.com/it-yonixweb/IMAGES/KUR/P3/9782368522219.jpg] 
X & Y french volume 3: [http://extranet.editis.com/it-yonixweb/IMAGES/KUR/P3/9782368522127.jpg] 
Red, Green & Blue and Yellow german volume 1: [http://paninishop.de/static/artbilder/jpg/POKC9MONDIEERSTENABENTEUER1_SC2Csw_969.jpg] 
Red, Green & Blue and Yellow german volume 2: [http://paninishop.de/static/artbilder/jpg/POKC9MONDIEERSTENABENTEUER2_SC2Csw_196.jpg] 
Black & White german volume 5: [http://paninishop.de/static/artbilder/jpg/POKC9MONSCHWARZUNDWEISS5DERMANGA_sw_639.jpg] 
Black & White german volume 6: [http://paninishop.de/static/artbilder/jpg/POKC9MONSCHWARZUNDWEISS6DERMANGA_SC2Csw_727.jpg] 
Black & White german volume 7: [http://paninishop.de/static/artbilder/jpg/POKC9MONSCHWARZUNDWEISS7_SC2Cswfarbig_727.jpg] 
Black & White german volume 8: [http://paninishop.de/static/artbilder/jpg/POKC9MONSCHWARZUNDWEISS8DERMANGA_SC2Csw_762.jpg] 
Black & White german volume 9: [http://paninishop.de/static/artbilder/jpg/POKC9MONSCHWARZUNDWEISS9_SC2Csw_208.jpg] 
X & Y german volume 1: [http://paninishop.de/static/artbilder/jpg/POKC9MONXUNDY1_SC2Csw_901.jpg] 
X & Y german volume 2: [http://paninishop.de/static/artbilder/jpg/POKEMONXUNDY2_SC2Csw_445.jpg] 
X & Y german volume 3: [http://paninishop.de/static/artbilder/jpg/POKC9MONXUNDY3_SC2Csw_112.jpg] 
Red, Green & Blue and Yellow finnish volume 2: [https://tokio.fi/kuvat/mangakannet/pokemon-adventures-2.jpg] 
Red, Green & Blue and Yellow finnish volume 3: [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/raichufani/RSS2/rai_skannaus490.jpg] 
Red, Green & Blue and Yellow finnish volume 4: [https://tokio.fi/kuvat/mangakannet/pokemon-adventures-4.jpg] 
Red, Green & Blue and Yellow finnish volume 5: [https://tokio.fi/kuvat/mangakannet/pokemon-adventures-5.jpg] 
Black & White italian volume 12: [http://www.gpmanga.it/3478-thickbox_default/pokemon-nero-e-bianco-12.jpg] 
Black & White italian volume 13: [http://www.gpmanga.it/3538-thickbox_default/pokemon-nero-e-bianco-13.jpg] 
Black & White italian volume 14: [http://www.gpmanga.it/3565-thickbox_default/pokemon-nero-e-bianco-14.jpg] 
Black & White italian volume 15: [http://www.gpmanga.it/3586-thickbox_default/pokemon-nero-e-bianco-14.jpg] 
Vietnamese volume 11: [http://www.nxbkimdong.com.vn/components/com_jshopping/files/img_products/full_bc11c2897ed9d635470c375013e8ac68.jpg] 
Vietnamese volume 12: [http://www.nxbkimdong.com.vn/components/com_jshopping/files/img_products/full_330003e92a1191c0bfd7ede248bf2b60.jpg] 
Vietnamese volume 13: [http://www.nxbkimdong.com.vn/components/com_jshopping/files/img_products/full_04c12c88460f411b6e7ec5e50829cc71.jpg] 
Vietnamese volume 14: [http://www.nxbkimdong.com.vn/components/com_jshopping/files/img_products/full_61dbdc67545933ad590311ec470f4c6e.jpg] Black & White brazilian volume 4: [http://www.paninicomics.com.br/image/image_gallery?img_id=7614604&t=1425582567527] 
Black & White brazilian volume 5: [http://www.paninicomics.com.br/image/image_gallery?img_id=8244364&t=1445269702930] 
Black & White brazilian volume 6: [http://www.paninicomics.com.br/image/image_gallery?img_id=8012493&t=1436298853257] 
Black & White brazilian volume 7: [http://www.paninicomics.com.br/image/image_gallery?img_id=8136092&t=1441150020020] 
Black & White brazilian volume 8: [http://www.paninicomics.com.br/image/image_gallery?img_id=8287702&t=1447081873367] 
Black & White brazilian volume 9: [http://www.paninicomics.com.br/image/image_gallery?img_id=8409306&t=1452168669397] 
--[[User:Ipsilon|Ipsilon]] ([[User talk:Ipsilon|talk]]) 11:43, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
:Wow, thank you! These will take me a little while to get through but I'm really excited, some of these I didn't know were released lol ^^' [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:08, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

==Nanoblocks==
Hey Zesty Cactus! Is this page [[User:Wowy/Pokémon Nanoblocks]] mainspaceable? Or are there any changes I'll need to do first?--[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(토크)''']] 04:15, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
:It's done. It's your job to find ways to link to it in other pages though ;) [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:51, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
::Thanks!!--[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(토크)''']] 05:00, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

== Tate and Liza's two Pokémon ==

I believe [[User:Pattyman/Tate's Solrock]] and [[User:Pattyman/Liza's Lunatone]] are ready to be mainspaced even though I had them sitting in the userspace for a while and as part of the other mainspace requests, lol. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 05:44, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
:All good here. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:31, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

== Pokémon Adventures ==

I don't know if you can read Korean but I thought you might be interested. Not sure if you want an official site, but if you search 포켓몬스터 스페셜 on [http://www.kyobobook.co.kr/index.laf this] website, a list of Korean Pokémon Adventures releases will come up. The website is Kyobo books (a well known book store, so reliable?). I know nothing about the manga and I don't have the time to invest in editing for it, but I'll leave it here if you're willing to do it. There is a bar at the bottom where you can scroll pages, but I haven't checked if they've got all volumes. --[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(토크)''']] 05:57, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
:Can't read Korean but I will definitely be looking at it anyway! I can find my way around any bookstore's website XD thanks for the link! [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:31, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

== RE: Covers of distinct countries ==

I'm sorry to tell you that German volumes are not omnibus ^^' , only they merged the chapters, but the volumes are the same. {{unsigned|Ipsilon}}
:Oh, my bad! I misunderstood before but I get it now. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 16:14, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

==Gold's Sunbo==
Hi, is [[User:Animaltamer7/Sunbo|this]] acceptable for mainspacing? Rahl helped me with the summary.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]10:30, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
:Hey. You asked that same question to me almost two years ago. I don't know what Zesty's opinion is, but mine is that Sunbo is still not notable enough for an article. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 15:38, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
::I will have to back Ataro up on this one and pass on mainspacing. Sunbo has multiple appearances but the majority of them are fairly minor and not critical to the advancement of the plot. The notable stuff, such as her participation in the Pokéathlon, can easily be added to her section on Gold's page. Also, she doesn't really have a lot of significant character development for herself or drive character development for Gold. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:22, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

== Crystal's starter ==

I was looking at the Manual of style/Manga/Manga Pokémon notability policy page and noticed that it says "Starter Pokémon that are owned by any of the main characters (Such as any Pokédex holder, Wally, Cheren, and Bianca) are all notable, provided they have appeared in more than one chapter/round. If they have not met this criteria, then they would have to have a significant impact on the plot of the chapter/round, manga series as a whole, or a certain arc." Through flashbacks we have seen that Smoochum is her starter, so should it get its own page?--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 05:44, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
:Possibly, if the article can prove her significance to the plot and character development. Basically if there's enough to say that couldn't be reasonably fit into her existing section on Crystal's page. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:22, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

==Legendary Birds==
Hi Zesty, are the Legendary Birds worth having an adventures page?[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]10:22, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
:You mean [[Thu-Fi-Zer]]? [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 18:28, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

::No I mean like a page for the individuals, since Thu-Fi-zer is a fusion of them.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]03:38, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
:::I don't really think that's necessary. The existing page could be expanded to include information about their roles as individuals (which are pretty minor). Alternatively the page could be converted to "Legendary birds (Adventures)" with a section on their combined role as Thu-Fi-Zer (which wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, since the page is at a Japanese name). But I definitely don't believe that there's enough information to warrant two separate pages. One is good enough. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:44, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
::::Actually that's what I meant, the "Legendary Birds (Adventures)" article instead of individual pages of each of them.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]04:47, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
:::::Yeah. So either the information can be added to Thu-Fi-Zer, or Thu-Fi-Zer can be converted into "Legendary birds (Adventures)" with a "Thu-Fi-Zer" section. We don't need both pages separately. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:57, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

== Template? ==

I might have already asked you that. But since it's Manga March, I'll ask again: do you need any template for the manga section? I've been practicing for a while now. I think I can come out with something pretty neat.

That, and have you decided on whether we should keep the next/prev chapter in the infobox or add a navigation bar at the top? I'd take care of that. [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 05:53, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
:There aren't any needed templates at this time, but if anything comes up, I'll be sure to let you know.
:As I mentioned previously, the manga pages used to have a navigation bar at the top, but it was eliminated when the current infobox was created, which has the previous and next links included. It's fine the way it is. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:12, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

==Page for Barbara==
Does Barbara have the right qualities for having a page? [[User:Animaltamer7]]12:20, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
:I am assuming you're referring to {{Adv|White}}'s Vullaby? In that case, not really... she doesn't really have a significant enough role to warrant breaking out the page. She appears in like, four rounds only, right? Her current section on White's page is fine. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 02:58, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

==Mainspacing==
Is [[User:Animaltamer7/Mew (Adventures)]], ok for mainspacing? [[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]10:41, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

== Mainspacing (2) ==

Is [[User:Pattyman/Skyla's Swanna|this page]] ready for mainspacing? [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 23:28, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

==Pokémon Adventures==
Hey Zesty! I was looking more into the Korean manga and I found out that the link I referenced before ([http://www.kyobobook.co.kr/index.laf this]) seems to have updated their stuff and now if you search 포켓몬스터 스페셜, more than one version comes up, each with different ISBN numbers, and released at different dates (and different prices). Volumes 1-25 seem to have gotten 3 different versions, and 26-36 seem to have had 2 versions. Do these count as different ''editions'' (due to their different ISBN) or is more confirmation required? Also, the dates for the older versions of these volumes seem to match (roughly) with other websites usually within the same month. So should I update the pages with the release date according to the above website or write only the month? --[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(토크)''']] 06:02, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
:What years were the three editions published in? Another user mentioned the multiple ISBNs to me a long time ago, but I could never make sense of it. Do they have different cover artworks? I wonder if the translation is different (I doubt it). Thanks for helping me with this ^^' what do you think?
:So, are other websites saying the same month, but a different date? I'm a little confused. What other websites are you referring to? The site you linked above is a reputable bookseller chain, right? Depending on what the other sources are I would consider a bookseller chain (I guess equal to Chapters or Barnes and Noble) pretty legit. But let me know :P [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:19, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
::I'm quite confused too :S, but this is what information I could get:
::Using Pokémon Special volume 1 as an example, the [http://www.kyobobook.co.kr/product/detailViewKor.laf?ejkGb=KOR&mallGb=KOR&barcode=9788984423763&orderClick=LAG&Kc= 'first edition'] was published on 25/8/1999 with an ISBN of 9788984423763(8984423769). The [http://www.kyobobook.co.kr/product/detailViewKor.laf?ejkGb=KOR&mallGb=KOR&barcode=9788925230207&orderClick=LAG&Kc= 'second edition'] was published on 20/5/2010 with an ISBN of 9788925230207(8925230208). The [http://www.kyobobook.co.kr/product/detailViewKor.laf?ejkGb=KOR&mallGb=KOR&barcode=9788925284156&orderClick=LAG&Kc= 'third edition'] was published on 19/7/2011 with an ISBN of 9788925284156(8925284154).
::For some volumes up to volume 19, I can notice that certain 1st edition covers differ from the subsequent editions (2nd and 3rd editions have the same cover), but only slightly. For instance, for Pokémon Special volume 1, the edition published in 1999 has a different background, and the word 한국어판 (Korean edition) is '''below''' the 포켓몬스터 logo, while the newer editions have a plain red background with the word 한국어판 at the '''top''' of the cover. Pokémon Special volume 14 has the most obvious difference in the cover art as it has the number 14 written in a [http://www.kyobobook.co.kr/product/detailViewKor.laf?ejkGb=KOR&mallGb=KOR&barcode=9788952860286&orderClick=LAH&Kc= different] [http://www.kyobobook.co.kr/product/detailViewKor.laf?ejkGb=KOR&mallGb=KOR&barcode=9788925288109&orderClick=LAH&Kc= place]. However, despite the difference in covers and ISBN, I suspect they are just repackaged differently but have the same translation (as you suspect as well). I'm not too familiar with manga, but to constitute as a new edition, does it require an updated translation (or just merely different ISBN)?
::In terms of the source, Kyobo books is the largest book chain store in Korea. I think it's probably the most reliable source since the Daewon CI site has been down for a while. The other website I was checking was [http://book.daum.net/bestseller/list.do this]. The dates are mostly the same between the two websites. And is there any way we could get official confirmation on these (email?)
::I have time next week so I can help upload pictures, write up ISBNs and dates if you want help.
:: --[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(토크)''']] 09:39, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
:::Just to add, according to the [[Pokémon in South Korea]] page at least the first 14 volumes are flipped to read the Western way, but the manga has since been unflipped to be the same as the Japanese ones. Just a thought, but I think the old 1st edition volumes are the ones which were flipped to read the Western way, and the newer editions are the ones which are unflipped. I've been looking at scans of the manga online and up to volume 21 (at least) I've seen flipped ones which correlate with the ''old style cover art'', which supports this theory. The dates and ISBN numbers also match which helps. I can't find scans of the newer editions though to check if they are unflipped like the Japanese ones.
:::And sorry for dumping my thoughts and text here! :)--[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(토크)''']] 11:12, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
::::Ohhhhh you know what the flipped/unflipped theory makes sense. Aren't Korean comics normally written in a left-to-right reading format? So it makes sense that they would want to flip them in the olden days. It reminds me of how Tokyopop did Peach Girl (starting from volume 9, they did it unflipped, and then published new unflipped editions of 1-8 later to match).
::::Anyway, I would just add them as first/second/third editions for now. If the cover artwork is identical, you can just repeat it. :P [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 01:40, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

==Unknown Pokemon==
Hey Zesty, I was looking through chapter 27 of the X & Y arc and I found a pokemon I couldn't figure out. It reminds me of a machop a bit but I can't tell, I wanted to ask if you know what it its, its under the Meowstic, early thanks. [[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]07:31, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
[http://sta.sh/013hv9xz5hey]
:OMG it looks like a blob to me. My boyfriend says it looks like Electrike so I don't even know XD [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 01:40, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

== Snor ==
Is the page [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Snor]] ready to be mainspaced? I know it isn't as prominent as some of Red's other Pokemon, but I think its appearance in multiple medias makes it important enough.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 02:10, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
:I've discussed this with other members of the Editorial Board and we've actually decided to eliminate the Origins and game-related sections from {{Adv|Red}} and {{Adv|Blue}}'s pages, as they are distinct characters from the game characters {{ga|Red}} and {{ga|Blue}}. They are cross-canon counterparts, sure, but they are too distinct to mix their Pokémon's information together. (It's not the same as regular Gym Leaders, who usually use pretty much the same Pokémon everywhere and mostly for battling). At the most, I'd suggest linking to the game characters' pages for more information on some same Pokémon used between the two (for example, [[Ash's Pikachu]] linking to {{ga|Red's Pikachu}}). Fortunately, we still think the Snor article is mainspaceable on just the basis of Adventures-related content (I think there may be a few more appearances that could be mentioned to expand the article, though: for example, the first two moves in the list are from rounds not mentioned in the body of the article). So that's pretty much it. (As an aside, did you check with FPF92 about the article being submitted for approval? He is still active, and ideally, the article's creator should be the one submitting it for approval.) [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:45, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

==Pokémon XY Vol. 7==
A quick heads-up, Vol. 7's image has been revealed for Viz's XY series, and I can tell you it looks cool with both Quilladin and Charmeleon on the cover. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 06:00, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
:Thanks. Just got the volume page up and running. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 04:58, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
::Awesome :) you were right, the cover artwork is pretty cool haha. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:03, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
:::One thing that is noticeable right now is Viz is obviously dividing their mini-volumes into 2 separate volumes with 3 and then 4 chapters each. While it is too soon to post this information as anything could happen while the volumes are still in production, it is something important to keep an eye on in the meantime. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 05:24, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

== Aero (Adventures) ==

Hey! :) I've contacted Ataro with this, but he hasn't answered me yet, and since you're head of Manga and connected right now, I thought I'd send it to you. :)

[[User:MannedTooth/Aero]]

Please give me your thoughts on it, I know that there is already a page created for it, but it was created back in 2012 and still hasn't been mainspaced yet. Just wondered why. [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 05:20, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
:Well, actually, Ataro ''is'' the Head of Manga — he took my old spot when I was promoted to Deputy Editor-in-Chief. However, since I am the ''former'' Head of Manga (so I would consider myself somewhat of an expert on the subject...), you're not wrong to contact me if you didn't get a reply from Ataro. :P
:Anyway, I'd still like to discuss the situation with {{u|Kogoro}}, but I haven't had a chance yet, so it may be another day or two before I can give you a final decision. Since FinnishPokéFan92's article was made first, we may end up combining the articles (along with the history, so you'll both get credit). Just wanted to give you a heads up and let you know I haven't forgotten about this ^^'
:Lastly, just a friendly reminder that all mainspaceable userspace pages should be tagged with {{template|Mainspace}}, and should not be categorized in any regular categories (such as {{cat|Red's Pokémon}}). This ensures it only appears in either {{cat|Candidates for mainspacing}} and {{cat|Candidates for mainspacing/Under construction}}. We don't want anyone searching by categories to find an incomplete or unapproved page mixed in with the proper ones :P categories may be hidden with those funky arrows in the character palette below the editing window (<nowiki></nowiki>) so that when the page is mainspaced, all we have to do is remove the arrows and it's good to go. These are also used to add notes and such on completed pages — you may have seen them around as you've been editing. Thank you! [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 01:25, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
::Oh, I'll remember Ataro as head of the Manga. I'll use the mainspace tag from now on, I'm always hesitant to use it, I'm like "is my page good enough for it?" Anyway, thanks for the advices, I'll use the html comments tags for categories of pages not mainspaced. [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 01:43, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
:::I actually recommend using the Mainspace tag as it flags articles for staff review and also helps other users know which pages are being worked on. If in doubt, you can always use the "under construction" version if you're not ready for it to be reviewed for mainspaceability. If anything, if the article isn't up to standard, by having it tagged it'll be easier for us to know it's there and offer advice for improvement if the subject is notable but the article itself needs improvement. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:53, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
::::As always, thank you for the great tips! :) It's really appreciated. :) [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 04:12, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::Alright, so I've discussed the situation with Kogoro and the plan now is to mainspace FinnishPokéFan's article, since it was there first and has more information. (Since your page was made with pre-existing knowledge of the other WIP page, unfortunately they won't be merged, but obviously you are free to edit the existing page once it's mainspaced.) Sorry to keep you waiting for a response. Just keep in mind for next time, even if a page has gone a while without being mainspaced, it's still a candidate unless a specific reason has been given for it to not be mainspaced (non-notability, poor quality, etc). Most users allow others to help them with their draft pages (after all, they do want it to be complete and high-quality enough to become a main content article, which anyone may edit anyway), although if they are still active you can always ask them for permission if you're not sure or they haven't specifically stated that anyone may edit their page. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:18, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::::It's alright, but if that changes anything, I did not know about the existence of the page until a user notified me after "completing" it. [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 06:25, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
::::::::I'm sorry if I didn't understand correctly, but based on your reply to Pattyman [[User talk:MannedTooth/Aero|here]] it sounded like you did know about the page before creating it. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:31, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::::::I don't remember why I said that to be honest, probably not to sound like a fool uselessly doing a job that has already been done, but in all honesty here, I really didn't know about it. Anyway, it doesn't matter that much, I did it for fun :p [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 06:37, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
::::::::::Well, relating back to what I mentioned upthread, this is a good example of why potential mainspace articles should be tagged so that yourself and other users can find them in the category. Just keep that in mind for next time ^^' anyway, if you're finished with your page, I'm going to delete it now since the main Aero page has been mainspaced. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:47, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::::::::Can you wait a day or two before deleting it? I am on my iPad and I would like to copy it aomewhere on my PC so that I can discuss with Finnish what we can do keep from it. If you really can't I'll understand, don't worry, delete it. :p {{unsigned|MannedTooth}}
::::::::::::That's okay. When you are finished with it, please tag it with {{template|Delete}} so that myself or another staff member will know it's okay to delete it. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:56, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

== Regarding uploaded images of traps and tiles in Gates to Infinity ==

I know this is not part of Generation VI, but rather Generation V. As [[User talk:Masatoshi#About Animated PNG files|Masatoshi pointed out to me]], I apparently have to get permission to upload Nintendo 3DS game screenshots or any kind of images, models or sprites. Earlier, I thought it only applied to Generation VI games, since it said so in the message, but I think it needs to be made more clear by saying "all Nintendo 3DS games, not just Generation VI" so that others don't make the same decision that I did, which was uploading them before getting permission. You're more than welcome to take a look at the traps that I took from the screenshots that I did from in-game from Gates to Infinity from my capture card. So you can verify, just incase mine are in violation. Here they are: [http://s9.postimg.org/9fq40e9z3/00004.png] [http://s9.postimg.org/pydut7xfj/00034.png] [http://s9.postimg.org/enb74uqkf/00037.png] [http://s9.postimg.org/b4z78gpof/00050.png] [http://s9.postimg.org/kkf2lo7pb/00051.png] [http://s9.postimg.org/wnke98irj/00076.png] [http://s9.postimg.org/838eyicjj/00087.png] Thanks! —[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 15:55, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
:Hi! I do apologize for the confusing wording on the message, I agree that it was pretty unclear and I am glad to see it has been updated. It's not so much that it's from Generation VI specifically, but that it's from the 3DS, which is harder to obtain screenshots from than previous systems. Since not everyone can be bothered to obtain and master the tools needed for these screenshots, we have to ask for confirmation just to ensure that you're really making the screenshots yourself and not taking them from some other source without the original screenshotter's permission. Having said that, I'm sorry to bug you, but you don't happen to have X/Y or OR/AS, do you? Normally, for confirmation, we ask for a specific Pokémon to be caught and given a specific nickname. As you can imagine it's harder to have criteria like this for a Mystery Dungeon game, so for simplicity, I can confirm you from one of those games and then you'll be free to upload all your Mystery Dungeon screenshots. :) Thanks for your understanding in this matter! [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:18, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
::Thank you so much! I'm also planning on taking screenshots and models from Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon as well (since I have that as well). As for main series games, I have Pokémon X, Y, Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, but I mainly use X and Omega Ruby. But if I need to upload any screenshots in the future from the main series games, I'd be more than welcome to do so under that criteria along with it's specific nickname. ^^ —[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 05:38, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
:::That's great! For confirmation, if you can capture a Flabébé for me from your X or Y and nickname it Bulbapedia, send me the screenshot (you can upload it to an external site and link to it here) and once I've seen it then you'll be free to upload any images from all the 3DS titles. Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:44, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
::::Okay, for a start, I will first show you the capture device I use, it's called 3DS Capture. [http://s22.postimg.org/mub9n7iq9/proof1.png] [http://s22.postimg.org/4g0qj86fl/proof2.png] Now I'll do Pokémon X next, with the nicknamed Flabébé as you mentioned.—[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 05:56, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::Sorry that I took so long. I ran into some issues with my 3DS NAND (since I was using 4.5 sysNAND, and the 6.0.x save encryption on Pokémon X couldn't activate on my emuNAND). But I fixed the issue by restoring a 9.2 sysNAND backup from two years ago, so it's all good now. Anyways, here's several screenshots of me catching and verifying the Flabébé: [http://s15.postimg.org/vbri3pivv/00091.png] [http://s15.postimg.org/goqjm1k9n/00092.png] [http://s15.postimg.org/qnbi8itp7/00093.png] [http://s15.postimg.org/rtfi7bhzv/00094.png] [http://s15.postimg.org/ij3e3s7a3/00095.png] [http://s15.postimg.org/3s8m5v36j/00096.png] [http://s15.postimg.org/43q2imjmj/00097.png] [http://s15.postimg.org/3tijza50b/00098.png] [http://s15.postimg.org/967edeswr/00099.png] [http://s15.postimg.org/4ll7yh97f/00100.png] [http://s15.postimg.org/3xgyt9zvf/00101.png] As for Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon, I've come across a big discovery. The game uses a much more newer type of save encryption. So that means that if I use it on my hacked 3DS (which is the one that has 3DS Capture on it), it will mean that the game will complain and say that it's corrupted. Even playing it with a sysNAND at 9.2 will still have the same issues. So either I'll wait until there's support for newer 3DS firmware versions, or I could start over on a new save, completely separate from the one that I've got on the game card itself and take screenshots that way. Just so you know, I do some research into game data on ROM images too. So if I learn more about extracting carc. packages and all that, then I could be able to dwelve deeper into seeing what levels the enemy Pokémon are at, as well as the percentages they can appear at too.—[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 23:31, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
::::::Sounds sucky with the technical issues, but you're good to go here, so you're free to upload images from the 3DS games now. :) [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:21, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::::Yay! Thank you! Also, I can now take screenshots of Super Mystery Dungeon on my old save file. Apparently, that new type of encryption involves unique save encryption keys, meaning they're different for every game card manufactured, even if there was another Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon of the same region. But by using the retail game card while in emuNAND Classic Mode, I was able to play my old save without any problems. So until there's a way of extracting the unique save encryption keys from the game card, it'll be impossible to share save files without the game deleting the save. But anyways, here's some of the screenshots I made from Super Mystery Dungeon: [http://s23.postimg.org/j2etkvusr/00103.png][http://s23.postimg.org/8uwa8h8kr/00106.png][http://s23.postimg.org/5wzbes0x7/00107.png][http://s23.postimg.org/ohsliysob/00113.png][http://s23.postimg.org/9xbio4xpn/00117.png][http://s23.postimg.org/3uyu0j2y3/00130.png][http://s23.postimg.org/4cz1dhyuj/00133.png][http://s23.postimg.org/z8g84n6az/00139.png][http://s23.postimg.org/xuol9c71n/00140.png][http://s23.postimg.org/56bn644vf/00141.png][http://s23.postimg.org/wm5b1g4h7/00149.png][http://s23.postimg.org/6cfn4wt63/00155.png][http://s23.postimg.org/v35biq8iz/00164.png][http://s23.postimg.org/nbolk64dn/00172.png][http://s23.postimg.org/dwdbkpbqj/00173.png][http://s23.postimg.org/w0gc5c9ez/00175.png][http://s23.postimg.org/kyb96wfcb/00177.png] I'll be cropping the traps and tiles from these, I also have others and will be taking more screenshots in the game. So if you see any traps and tiles from Super Mystery Dungeon, you'll know it's me. ^^—[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 14:05, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

== Wanna work together? ==
Hey! Remember me? I've got plenty of Quebec VHS and plenty of time right now! Wanna get something done? ^^ I'm excited to help! [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 03:59, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
:Do you have access to a scanner? I've uploaded [[:a:Category:Anime VHS covers|the covers of the tapes I have]] seen here but you have some that I'm missing. (Also, I think I have a DVD that I haven't scanned lol) If you don't, no worries, we can skip that now and come back to it. You didn't have any Quebec French DVDs, did you? Just the VHS? [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:04, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
::I do have a scanner if needed, and no, I don't have any DVD (except for the music CD I talked to you about). [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 04:10, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
:::Okay, cool. You don't happen to know if Imavision released any other story arcs (i.e. Orange Islands, Johto Journeys) or just the Indigo League? I think [[List of English language Pokémon Advanced home video releases (Region 1)|this is going to be the most similar page]] to what this project will be (ignoring the "Boxed sets" section, since I don't think there is one), since the DVD and VHS have different episode listings (the DVD I have has five episodes on it as opposed to three per VHS). I'm not too sure if it'll be entirely complete but we can at least start it with the volumes we have.
:::So basically, for this page we will need:
:::* Scanned images of all tapes and DVDs that we can access
:::* Barring that, stock artwork of covers from reputable retail sites such as Amazon are okay, but not images taken from other fan sites (if we have to, we can leave the pictures blank)
:::* All the volumes we know about for sure, need to be placed in chronological order (from oldest to newest). If there are any missing volumes in between, we need to know how many there are (if possible) and research them online (if possible). I'm wondering if Imavision has a web site that may be archived on web.archive.org, this would be ideal if we can find an archived listing of what volumes they released
:::** As a last resort, we can write to them and ask for a listing, but they may not be able to help us because it's so old (I did have some success writing to Chuang Yi about manga releases before they went out of business. VIZ Media, on the other hand, sent me my own incomplete article when I asked for more information!)
:::**At any rate, if nothing else, we can still make a partial article just based on the stuff that we already own.
:::If you want, you can go ahead and start an article in your userspace. I think you have all the same volumes as me (minus the DVD) but if you need the catalogue numbers or anything just let me know and I'll add them. Feel free to use my previous articles as examples. :P
:::Also, let me know if you happen to know if there are more releases beyond Indigo League and the movies or just those ones. Depending how many there are we may be able to fit all the Quebec releases on one page :P [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:28, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
::::I'm going to proceed scanning every VHS box art we don't already have. Do we need the back of the box? [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 04:38, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::Oh, and by the way [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Canada_French_VHS_volume_13.png this file] is not the 13th, it's the 14th, look at the number on the TAPE not the BOX. :P [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 04:40, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
::::::Oh, that's really weird because the catalogue number is IMAV-0013. But I got out the tape just now and it does say 0014. Is there another tape with a catalogue number IMAV-0013? What a weird error. Also, don't bother scanning the back of the boxes for now. We don't have them for any other releases or similar projects. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:44, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::::Yup, I was confused too, I do have a two boxes with the IMAV-0013 catalogue number. [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 04:45, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
::::::::Okay, I'll move my picture then to make room for the "real" IMAV-0013. I'm assuming the other tape you have has the episodes that come before this one. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:50, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
{{indent}}

Yes, I got the real 13th volume. Scanning it right now :P [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 04:52, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
:I'm done scanning them. Want me to upload them directly onto the archives or on Imgur and you can see them first? [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 05:15, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
::No, it's okay. If you are autoconfirmed on the Archives already you may upload them yourself. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:20, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
:::There! I uploaded them! :) [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 05:54, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
::::When adding the episodes included, shall I write the french title or the english title? I'm going to stick with the english for now, but tell me. [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 06:20, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::Hmm. You could maybe do something like on [[Pokémon Black and White volume 1 (France)]]. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:26, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
::::::I'll be needing more information, I don't want to mess things up. By the way, you may have already seen it, but [[User:MannedTooth/List_of_Canadian_French_language_Indigo_League_home_video_releases_(Region_1)| there it is]] [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 06:56, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::::Your page is off to a good start. One thing I suggest is that the titles of the tapes should have English translations with the "tt" template, as seen on [[Pokémon anime novelization series (France)]]. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 17:17, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
::::::::Is it possible to use both the tt template and the link <code>...</code> ? It would be better to have a link, don't you think? [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 17:49, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
{{indent}} Are we talking about the same thing? I'm talking about the titles of the tapes, not the titles of the episodes. We're not making individual articles for each tape - that's why we have these list articles. Each French title of each tape should have an English translation, like [[Pokémon anime novelization series (France)|those novels]] I linked to upthread (see under "title"). As for the episode titles, I prefer not to combine tt and links, I would rather have something like [[Pokémon Black and White volume 1 (France)]] or [[Pocket Monsters Film Comic]] if we're going to list both the French and English episode titles. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:21, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
:Also, volume 13 (the real IMAV-0013 lol) is in a clamshell case, not a paper sleeve, right? Seems like at some point they switched from sleeves to clamshells and the clamshell case tapes have four episodes, not three. It would be nice to know exactly which point they switched so we can note when the cases change types. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:25, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
::Yes I was talking about the episode titles, so I'll do something like this:
::<code><<Je te choisis, Pikachu!>> [[EP001|I choose you Pikachu!]]</code>
::right?
::and yes, the 13th is in a clamshell, I don't know when they switched tho, I only have the volume 1-7 and 13-14. Oh, I have some movies as well, need those? [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 03:33, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
:::That should be good, though remember episode titles are italicized. ^^ we'll have to look online and see if we can find any more information about the other tapes. I've seen them turn up on eBay now and again so maybe we can at least find out the episode listings or something. The movies would be good, I'm thinking for now we should just make one page for all the Quebec French releases rather than making separate pages. So the movies could go under their own heading, like:
<ab>:::<nowiki>==Indigo League==</nowiki>
<nowiki>===VHS===</nowiki>
<nowiki>===DVD===</nowiki>
<nowiki>==Pokémon movies==</nowiki>
</ab>
:::We can also add headings for Orange Islands and Johto Journeys if they ever made tapes of those. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:43, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
::::OK, I found some info on some of the other tapes online but I gotta leave for now so it's okay with you I'll add them to your page as well as my DVD sometime in the next few days. Looks like volume 13 is the first of the clamshell ones, the volume 12 i found online is a paper sleeve. i haven't found anything of the Orange Islands or Johto Journeys yet. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:20, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::Have you left yet? If you didn't, can you take a look at what I did, it should be alright, right? [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 05:48, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
::::::Oh, that definitely looks better! I think we found the same pages haha :P The titles of the movies still need translations (on the far left column). [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:55, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, I didn't know you wanted them as well, shall I do just like the way I did for the episodes? [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 05:56, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
::::::::Managed to find the 8th volume. [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 01:51, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::::::Great! For the names of the movies, you can just use "tt" since it's not a link. The "main" text should be the French title and the hover text should be the English translation. ({{tt|French text|English translation}}) [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 02:10, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
{{indent}}

Done! [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 02:27, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
:Okay, I added my DVD and mainspaced the page. Feel free to add the Pokémon movies you have. Also note that I changed the page because I actually meant to have direct translations of the titles from French to English — not the equivalent title from the English version. "Duel à Pewter Cité" doesn't mean "The Mystery of Mount Moon" in French :P [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:29, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
::Sweet! I'm so happy that one of my project got mainspaced! :3 DO you have anything else you wanna work on? Gosh I love working in team and researching. I love the feeling of being part of this great family that is Bulbapedia. [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 03:42, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

== Silver's Gyarados ==
Assuming I can make Silver's Gyarados's page as expansive as every other page I have done could it get its own page and not just a section in the Red Gyarados?--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 00:58, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
:Sure, that should be okay. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:21, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
::Alright I made the [[User:Rahl/Silver's Gyarados|page]]. Please take a look at it.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 04:45, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
:::Oh, it looks great! I'll move it over. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:20, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

==Legendary beasts==
Hey, I finished this: [[User:Animaltamer7/Legendary beasts (Adventures)]] with help fro Rahl. Is it ok for mainspacing?[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]13:22, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
:It's cool, thanks! [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:29, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

== Rara ==

Is the page [[User:Rahl/Rara]] ready to be mainspaced?--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 17:02, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

== Adventures Kalos Pokémon ==

Are the pages [[User:Pattyman/Marisso]], [[User:Ataro/Salamè]], [[User:Animaltamer7/Fletchy]], and [[User:Handmaiden 101/Malva's Braixen]] ready to be mainspaced?--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 01:37, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
:If they are mainspaced, then can [[User:Animaltamer7/X's Pokémon]] and [[User:Animaltamer7/Y's Pokémon]] as with the above articles, X and Y will have enough pokemon to use these templates.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]03:08, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
::Hey guys, I have been hella busy since I got back and I haven't had time to properly look over the pages yet (I should likely be able to sometime this weekend). Just lettin you know I've seen your messages and I'll get back to you soon. :P [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:45, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

==Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire chapter==
Just found out through Amazon the Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire chapter will be released by Viz in mini-volume format with the dates for the first two volumes confirmed. From the looks of it, a separate page like what happened with the X and Y chapter will need to be made in the future, though this does not to be addressed for a few months. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 16:34, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
:Oh, cool. Thanks for the heads-up. I really don't get why they can't just translate the perfectly good Japanese mini-volumes lol [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:45, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
::Still premature to add it to list of publications or create a volume list for it until the first cover picture is revealed to carefully confirm what the title is but I presume that similar to X and Y they are dividing it into two volumes. Did you notice for X and Y that every two volumes have the same background coloring. You can still consider adding this as a new point at any point you wish though. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 13:12, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I don't want to move it if we can avoid it XD I think it's 100% certain that it's a different "series" since the page count for volume 1 is 96 and the Japanese volume 1 is almost 200 pages. So you're probably right that it's split in half. I wouldn't bother making an article until we have a cover photo (partly to triple-check the name, and partly cuz there's not much to say yet) unless you really wanted to XD [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 02:57, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
:Since it is in my purchases it will make it easier for me to spot it once a picture is revealed, then everything can proceed. I'll send word once it is ready, which I estimate within a two month period as Vol. 1 is a September release. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 04:48, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

==Pokemon Templates for Trevor and Tierno==
Just asking that since the Kalos starters have pages, are Trevor and Tierno acceptable for having a "<blank>'s Pokemon" template since they both have used/carried atleast two of the starters? [[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]05:48, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
:I wouldn't bother because none of the Pokémon are actually theirs, just temporary or lost. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:23, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

== Tula ==

Is the page [[User:Rahl/Tula]] ready to be mainspaced?--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 19:50, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

== Bonee ==

Is the page [[User:Rahl/Bonee]] ready to be mainspaced?--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 23:32, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

==Tower duo==
Hi, is [[User:Animaltamer7/Tower duo]] ok for mainspacing?[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]07:26, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
:It looks pretty good but it should have the Adventures section at least started and not left empty. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:07, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
::Finished.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]04:43, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

==Note==
Now that Sun and Moon's release date has been confirmed, in case lockdown is still in effect during that time, I'll send you the english titles for the second VIZ mini-volume of the Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire chapter which is scheduled for December through the forum again just like what happened before with FireRed and LeafGreen. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 13:25, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

== Kit ==

Is the page [[User:Rahl/Kit]] ready to be mainspaced?--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 02:38, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

==XY Vol. 8==
The cover image for Viz's eighth mini-volume has been revealed. Just thought you should know. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 03:23, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

==Lake guardians==
Is [[User:Animaltamer7/Lake guardians (Adventures)|this]] ok for mainspacing?[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]09:00, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

== Meteorite information ==

I have information about the Meteorite appearances in the anime and manga on an external document offsite but I'm not sure where to put them on here as the Meteorite doesn't have its own page and both of the Gen 3 and 6 key items pages didn't have an anime/manga section listed for the items that appeared in the anime/manga. Do you know where I should put them? [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 03:58, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
:One day eventually we are going to have pages for every key item, so it may be best to hold on to it and when the page goes up you can add it then. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:48, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

== Wah. ==

I edit this page once every 7-8 months and every time, my brain just breaks trying to actually add stuff to it when the time comes. It's 5 in the morning and I'm too tired for this. If it's not too much trouble, can you (or anyone else who reads this) please add the titles from the latest XY volume to the List of rounds in the twelfth chapter of Pokémon Adventures page? Thanks in advance.

*The titles are: ハッサム、受ける (Scizor, Catch) ルチャブル、襲う (Hawlucha, Attack) カイロス、化わる (Pinsir, Change) ジガルデ、現る (Zygarde, Appear) カラマネロ、仕掛ける (Malamar, Lay a Trap) and ブリガロン、守る (Chesnaught, Protect) [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 09:46, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

== Costa ==

Is the page [[User:Rahl/Costa]] ready to be mainspaced?--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 21:50, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
:Yes. Sorry for the slowness of my reply lol [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:11, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

==Manaphy==
Is it alright for Manaphy(and/or to na extension Phione) to have an adventures page, as the W Mission Story is set in the same continuity as Adventures?[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]12:42, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
:No. Both Pokemon have had less than ten pages of panel time. And while it was important to W Mission Story, it only appeared as an Egg. Eggs are not characters. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 15:42, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

== Archives ==

I left a comment on your [[a:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|archive talk page]]. I guess you don't check that often. --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] ([[User talk:Wildgoosespeeder|talk]]) 22:01, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
:Left a reply. --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] ([[User talk:Wildgoosespeeder|talk]]) 00:01, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

== Need help editing! ==

I noticed you seem pretty comfy with editing, and I need help. I want to help with the stubs and articles needing pictures. However, I have no clue how to use the editor and the text doesn't do it. I don't know how to import photos to articles or much about templates. I'm only good at typing new words, as I TRIED to edit the page for Malamar but it was rejected. I've been going on long enough. Overall I need you to help me so I can help you!--[[User:Grass4Lyfe|Grass4Lyfe]] ([[User talk:Grass4Lyfe|talk]]) 06:29, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
:Hi, thanks for your message and interest in editing! The reason your edit on {{p|Malamar}} was reverted was because it basically repeated the same thing in the sentence above it. Please be mindful of things like this when you're editing — look at the big picture, not just your edit.
:Having said that, I'm not sure how you mean on "no clue how to use the editor". Is there a certain feature you don't understand? Your edit to Malamar went through, so I know you're capable of at least that much. You'll have to elaborate more on what you need help with ^^'

:All images and photos are done through the [[a:Main Page|Bulbagarden Archives]], rather than through Bulbapedia; this way, images can also be shared with [[:n:Main Page|Bulbanews]]. Please note that you will need to be [[:a:Archives:FAQ#Uploading related|autoconfirmed]] on the Archives before you will be allowed to upload your own images. You can find more information on this in the Archives.

:I more or less learned how to edit by looking at what other articles looked like and viewing the source code. Viewing the source code is particularly useful when figuring out how templates are used. For now, you may find the {{bp|Manual of style}} and the {{bp|List of link templates}} helpful. I'm sure you've already noticed the {{cat|Stubs}}, {{cat|Articles needing improvement}} and {{cat|Articles needing more information}} if you're looking for some pages that need help. Please let me know if you have any additional questions. Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 13:48, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

::Thanks for the advice! The main problem I had with the editor is the templates. Thanks for showing me the page to look at them, and I will try to use them and help out with any incomplete or stub articles! I checked the help on the navigation section that took me to a new website. I believe it was wikimedia and how to use its editor. That's about all of it and thanks again for the advice; it really helped!--[[User:Grass4Lyfe|Grass4Lyfe]] ([[User talk:Grass4Lyfe|talk]]) 16:28, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 14

2016-07-11T06:35:52Z

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==Previous discussions==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10|Archive 10]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 11|Archive 11]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 12|Archive 12]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 13|Archive 13]]

== Forum Links ==

I've noticed that the forums moved to a new address and because of that, the links to the old forums on the bottom of many pages don't work and clicking on it just leads to the message that says the address was changed to the current one. Shouldn't we fix this and is there anyway that I can help with this? --[[User:Willyh106|Willyh106]] ''([[User talk:Willyh106|Talk]])’’ 14:23, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
:Could you give some examples? We've updated several templates, but it's possible there are some we missed. Also, if there are a group of pages with manual links, it would be useful to know so we can organize for them to be relinked en-mass. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 16:23, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
::One example I just thought of was the "May Club" link on [[May (anime)|this page]]. It is an old, closed thread, but it worked fine and I was able to look at it without any problems before the forum changed its address. I think I saw more and some more examples I can think of are links like the "Rules" link at the [[Bulbagarden forums]] page itself and also the link to the "AdvanceShipping Nation" on the [[AdvanceShipping]] page too. I think that even if it is a tedious task, if we change all the old BMGf links to the current ones, people will have a more pleasant experience with gathering more info and we'll be able to avoid some possible confusion. Thank you for considering my suggestion. --[[User:Willyh106|Willyh106]] ''([[User talk:Willyh106|Talk]])’’ 17:05, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

== McAfee ==

Whenever I visit the [[Crasher Wake]] page, McAfee gives me a warning that a malicious site is ahead.
No matter how many times I try again, it keeps blocking me. Just the Crasher Wake page, somehow.
Is there anyone who can explain why and tell me if the owner(s) of Bulbapedia can fix it?{{unsigned|Kyleallt}}
:For issues with the site, it's best you use the forums. Specifically, [http://forums.bulbagarden.net/index.php?threads/bulbawiki-site-issues-thread.39109/ this thread].--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:03, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

== I'm sorry ==

I've just made my account recently and I am so hyped at the idea of contributing to the wiki. I have been most of the time wrong with my edits, additions or any other things. I just wanted to say that I was sorry and that I am just trying to help. I mean no harm to the website or anyone here, you are all awesome! Keep it up! [[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 02:20, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
:It's common for users who are starting out to not do well on their first try. I'm pretty sure that you'll get the hang of things after contributing here for awhile. :) [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 02:23, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

== Need help from a french-native? ==

As the title says, French is my maternal language, so if you guys ever need help for translating or understanding things from French. Let me know! :) [[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 19:01, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

== Unidentified CD ==

Hey guys, I was looking st my Pokémon collection to see if there was anything to add to the wiki, and I found a CD which apparently has no name. It's a Gold and Silver CDROM which includes movies trailers, soundtracks, wallpapers and etc. I have searched in the CD section, and I haven't found it. Any help? [[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 18:38, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
:Is there something on the disc/case? [[User:Glik|glik]][[User talk:Glik|glak]] 19:02, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
::Appears to be a [http://www.gamespot.com/articles/new-pokmon-promotion/1100-2618846/ pre-order bonus]. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 19:02, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

:::Glik: it doesn't have a disc case, it's a CD sealed on a piece of "cardboard".
:::Abcboy: that seems to be exactly what it is! :o [[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 19:06, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

== Underleveled Pokémon ==

The recent addition from The Hidden Ninja about his lvl 4 Kakuna gave me an idea! :O
What about we create a page that regroups a list of every underleveled Pokémon ever found in the games? That is a pretty interesting thing to me. Knowing that a Pokémon evolves at Lvl X but was seen already evolved at level X - Y is pretty interesting, indeed. What do you guys think? [[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 19:45, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
:See [[User:Spriteit/Underleveled_Pokémon]] or [[User:Super_goku/Sandbox/Underleveled_Table]].--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:39, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

== Massive and enraging grammar issue! ==

I've been editing anime and manga plots tonight, and most of my edits were undone because ''"they contained more grammar mistakes than before."''

Hear me out, when you are talking about a group of person, the subject is 3rd person singular.

Examples:

*Team Rocket ''is'' (NOT ARE) tired. ''It'' (NOT THEY) must rest a bit.
*The group ''searches'' (NOT SEARCH) for a place where ''it'' (NOT THEY) can stay the night.
*Team Rocket ''bumps'' (NOT BUMP) into Red.

Then, as far as I know, it's not the Trainer who uses a move, but the Pokémon itself.

Examples:

*Red sends out Poliwhirl and ''makes him use'' (NOT USES) Water Gun.

Having my hard-worked edits reverted when I know for a fact that I am right, made me legit mad.

I just want to help, so next time, can you either look up why I did this, or just ask me before you undo it all? Thanks. [[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 06:54, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
:To be frank, expressing your anger like this won't earn you any points. You're welcome to debate the merits of your edits, but try to keep a bit more of a level head about it.
:That said, in most particular, the main page talk page really is not a very appropriate place to raise the question of your personal edits. Use the talk page for a page you were reverted on or use the other person's talk page.
:And I think I'll leave it there. If this is brought up in a more appropriate place, I'd be glad to comment as well as I can. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:18, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

::Me being "mad" (I wasn't really, it was just to illustrate my feeling of demotivation) is not the point I want to talk about, neither is my personal edits. The point is to inform editors about this important yet basic rule of english. The fact that (my) edits got deleted for this reason is just unexplainable. I wrote this on the main page to inform as much people as possible about this so that future edits can be better with a better level of english. [[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 07:27, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
:::That's partially opinion. And ''that'' should be hashed out in, again, a more appropriate place.
:::In short: give other people a chance to explain themselves before running off entirely on your own assumptions. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:32, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

== Generation 7 ==

I just heard two new Pokémon games, Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon, have been confirmed by Nitendo. This will probably be Generation 7, should there be something on Bulbapedia already? [[User:Danny199|Danny199]] ([[User talk:Danny199|talk]]) 17:44, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
:We already have this information: [[Pokémon Sun and Moon]] and [[Generation VII]]. --[[User:Carmenstar97|Carmen★]] ''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|(Talk |]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|contribs)]]'' 17:47, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

==Spanish?==

I know that we have a Italian page, but can we add a Spanish? There's a lot of people that speak it, and I think we'd need it.
Honestly, I don't know if you guys will accept this, but I have a lot of friends that speak Spanish and like Pokemon. It's just my opinion, and honestly I think it would we easy to translate.
Anyway, please think about it and give me reason why/ why not to have it, thanks!
[[User:Thorite Gem|Thorite Gem]] ([[User talk:Thorite Gem|talk]]) 22:06, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
:[[Pokéteca|We did]] but they went under as an independent wiki, and came back as a [http://es.poketeca.wikia.com/wiki/Wiki_Pok%C3%A9teca wikia]. The other language wikis, however, are not controlled or even maintained by us. We're just an [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis|alliance]]. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 23:43, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
::Ah ok, that makes much more sense. Thanks Arc! [[User:Thorite Gem|Thorite Gem]] ([[User talk:Thorite Gem|talk]]) 13:48, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

== Pronounciation ==

Because Pokemon has officially revealed the pronounciations with the Deluxe Pokemon Handbook, could we put official pronounciation as a part of pages to calm down the rabid fanbase? {{unsigned|Theexploringgamer}}
:There are cases where different official sources have used differing pronunciations. That sort of problem is a big reason we're not likely to be putting pronunciations on Pokemon pages. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:23, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
::The reason I ask is because it's the MOST RECENT pronounciation that they've confirmed. The only change was Arceus, and they established why they changed that one. [[User:Theexploringgamer|Theexploringgamer]] ([[User talk:Theexploringgamer|talk]]) 14:09, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

== Improve for mobile users! ==

I use my iPad more than my laptop and the interface for the wiki seems fit for computers rather than mobile devices. That got me thinking, maybe you guys should try developing an app for mobile users! The editing and browsing could be easier! Just a suggestion.--[[User:Grass4Lyfe|Grass4Lyfe]] ([[User talk:Grass4Lyfe|talk]]) 06:35, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

User talk:Zesty Cactus/Archive 10

2016-07-11T06:29:55Z

Grass4Lyfe: /* Need help editing! */ new section

Malamar (Pokémon)

2016-07-02T05:00:14Z

Grass4Lyfe:

{{PokémonPrevNextHead | prev=Inkay | species=Malamar | next=Binacle | type=Dark | type2=Psychic | prevnum=686 | nextnum=688 }}
{{Pokémon Infobox |
name=Malamar |
jname=カラマネロ |
jtranslit=Karamanero |
tmname=Calamanero |
species=Overturning |
typebox=1 |
type1=Dark |
type2=Psychic |
abilityn=d |
ability1=Suction Cups |
ability2=Contrary |
abilityd=Infiltrator |
ndex=687 |
karea=Coastal |
kdex=011 |
height-ftin=4'11" |
height-m=1.5 |
weight-lbs=103.6 |
weight-kg=47.0 |
egggroupn=2 |
egggroup1=Water 1 |
egggroup2=Water 2 |
gendercode=127 |
eggcycles=21 |
evtotal=2 |
evat=2 |
lv100exp=1,000,000 |
color=Blue |
catchrate=80 |
expyield=169|
body=05 |
pokefordex=malamar |
generation=6 |
friendship=70 |
}}
'''Malamar''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''カラマネロ''' ''Calamanero'') is a dual-type {{2t|Dark|Psychic}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Inkay}} starting at [[level]] 30 when leveled up while the [[Nintendo 3DS]] system is held upside-down.

==Biology==
Malamar is a dark-purple squid-like Pokémon. It has a pair of fins on the bottom of its body that function as its legs. Malamar's main body has six light-yellow spots on the front and back and a light-yellow stripe nearly wrapping around its body above the spots. Its arm-like tendrils have grown scythe-like in appearance. Malamar has a red beak, half closed eyes with black sclera, yellow irises and wavy "hair" made of eight tentacles. It possesses strong hypnotic powers, which it uses to force others to do its bidding. It can lure prey with hypnotic motions before it wraps its tentacles around the prey, then it finishes off with digestive fluids. Malamar and its pre-evolution {{p|Inkay}} are the [[signature move|only known Pokémon]] that can learn {{m|Topsy-Turvy}}.

==In the anime==
[[File:Malamar anime.png|thumb|200px|left|Malamar in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
An evil, psychopathic Malamar made an appearance in ''[[XY019|A Conspiracy to Conquer!]]''. It appeared to be under the control of a woman named "Madame X," but in reality, it had hypnotized an [[Officer Jenny]] to pose as Madame X. It also hypnotized [[Jessie]], [[James]], {{an|Clemont}}, {{an|Serena}}, {{an|Bonnie}} and many Pokémon including [[Ash's Pikachu]]. While it was defeated in the end, it escaped after boasting of a grand plan to conquer the world. It reappeared in ''[[XY054|Facing the Grand Design!]]'' along with two other evil Malamar.

===Other===
Multiple Malamar also appeared in ''[[XY054|Facing the Grand Design!]]'' along with the three evil Malamar. Unlike the three evil Malamar, these were peaceful and lived with Pokémon living in the forest and later helped James and Clemont stop the three evil Malamar from completing their plans and rescue their friends.

===Minor appearances===
Malamar made its debut appearance in ''[[XY001|Kalos, Where Dreams and Adventures Begin!]]''.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Kalos}}
{{Animedexbody|XY019|Malamar|Ash's Pokédex|Malamar, the Overturning Pokémon, and the evolved form of Inkay. Possessing the strongest hypnotic powers of any Pokémon, Malamar can compel others to do anything it wants them to do.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''XY''|Kalos}}

==In the manga==
[[File:Xerosic Malamar Adventures.png|thumb|right|100px|Malamar in Pokémon Adventures]]
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
In the {{chap|X & Y}} [[Team Flare]] Scientist [[Xerosic]] owns a Malamar.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Malamar (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex/Header|type=dark|type2=psychic}}
{{Dex/NA|gen=VI}}
{{Dex/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=X|t=FFF|entry=It wields the most compelling hypnotic powers of any Pokémon, and it forces others to do whatever it wants.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Y|entry=It lures prey close with hypnotic motions, then wraps its tentacles around it before finishing it off with digestive fluids.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Omega Ruby|t=FFF|entry=It wields the most compelling hypnotic powers of any Pokémon, and it forces others to do whatever it wants.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|t=FFF|v=Alpha Sapphire|entry=It lures prey close with hypnotic motions, then wraps its tentacles around it before finishing it off with digestive fluids.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Footer}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability/Header|type=dark|type2=psychic}}
{{Availability/NA|gen=VI}}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=X|v2=Y|t=FFF|area=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Inkay}}}}
{{Availability/Entry2/None|v=Omega Ruby|v2=Alpha Sapphire}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Footer}}

====In side games====
{{Availability/Header|type=Dark|type2=Psychic}}
{{Availability/NA|gen=VI}}
{{Availability/Gen|gen=VI}}
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Battle Trozei|color={{defense color}}|area=[[Mountain of Order#Stage 4|Mountain of Order: Stage 4]]}}
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Shuffle|color={{beauty color}}|area=[[Expert Stages]]: Stage EX40}}
{{Availability/Entry1|1|v=Rumble World|color={{fire color}}|area=[[Starlight Islands#Upside-Down Island|Starlight Islands: Upside-Down Island]] (All Areas, Entrance Boss)}}
|}
|}
{{Availability/Footer}}

====In events====
{{eventAvail/h|Region|type=dark|type2=psychic}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev6|OR}}|Shigeki Morimoto's Malamar|PAL region|Online|50|August 5, 2015 to January 22, 2016|link=List of PAL region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI#Malamar}}
|}

===Held items===
{{HeldItems
|type=dark|type2=psychic
|event1=Assault Vest|event1type=In-battle effect item|event1rar=100}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=Dark|
type2=Psychic|
HP= 86|
Attack= 92|
Defense=88|
SpAtk= 68|
SpDef= 75|
Speed= 73}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=Dark|
type2=Psychic|
Normal= 100 |
Flying= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 400 |
Poison= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |
Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 0 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy= 200 |
notes=no|
dark=yes|
newpsychic=½}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist/levelh/6|Malamar|Dark|Psychic|6|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/level6|1|Superpower|Fighting|Physical|120|100|5|||Tough|6|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|1|Reversal|Fighting|Physical|—|100|15|||Cool|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|1|Tackle|Normal|Physical|50|100|35|||Tough|4|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|1|Peck|Flying|Physical|35|100|35|||Cool|4|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|1|Constrict|Normal|Physical|10|100|35|||Tough|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|4|Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|||Clever|2|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|8|Foul Play|Dark|Physical|95|100|15||'''|Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|12|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|20|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|13|Psywave|Psychic|Special|—|100|15|||Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|15|Topsy-Turvy|Dark|Status|—|100|20|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|18|Hypnosis|Psychic|Status|—|60|20|||Clever|1|3}}
{{learnlist/level6|21|Psybeam|Psychic|Special|65|100|20||'''|Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|23|Switcheroo|Dark|Status|—|100|10|||Clever|2|1}}
{{learnlist/level6|27|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10||'''|Tough|2|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|31|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|||Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|35|Pluck|Flying|Physical|60|100|20|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|39|Psycho Cut|Psychic|Physical|70|100|20||'''|Cool|4|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|43|Slash|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|||Cool|4|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|46|Night Slash|Dark|Physical|70|100|15||'''|Cool|3|0}}
{{learnlist/level6|48|Superpower|Fighting|Physical|120|100|5|||Tough|6|0}}
{{learnlist/levelf/6|Malamar|Dark|Psychic|6}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh/6|Malamar|Dark|Psychic|6|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM03|Psyshock|Psychic|Special|80|100|10||'''|Beautiful|1|4}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM04|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|||Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|60|100|15|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM12|Taunt|Dark|Status|—|100|20|||Clever|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|||Cool|4|4}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM16|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|||Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|||Beautiful|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|||Cute|2|3}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM24|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|90|100|15|||Cool|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|||Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM29|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10||'''|Clever|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|||Cool|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM33|Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|||Clever|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM35|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|90|100|15|||Beautiful|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM40|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|||Cool|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM41|Torment|Dark|Status|—|100|15|||Tough|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM46|Thief|Dark|Physical|60|100|25||'''|Tough|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15|||Beautiful|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10||'''|Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM63|Embargo|Dark|Status|—|100|15|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM66|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10||'''|Tough|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM67|Retaliate|Normal|Physical|70|100|5|||Cool|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM68|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|||Tough|4|4}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM70|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|||Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Clever|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM80|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|||Tough|2|2}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM88|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM92|Trick Room|Psychic|Status|—|—|5|||Clever|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM94|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|{{sup/6|ORAS}}||Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM97|Dark Pulse|Dark|Special|80|100|15||'''|Cool|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|TM100|Confide|Normal|Status|—|—|20|||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tm6|HM01|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30|||Cool|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tmf/6|Malamar|Dark|Psychic|6}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh/6|Malamar|Dark|Psychic|6|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/breed6|{{MSP|618|Stunfisk}}{{MSP|690|Skrelp}}{{MSP|691|Dragalge}}|Camouflage|Normal|Status|—|—|20|||Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/breed6|{{MSP|211|Qwilfish}}|Destiny Bond|Ghost|Status|—|—|5|||Clever|8|0}}
{{learnlist/breed6|{{MSP|158|Totodile}}|Flatter|Dark|Status|—|100|15|*||Clever|2|0}}
{{learnlist/breed6|{{MSP|283|Surskit}}|Power Split|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|*||Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/breed6|{{MSP|054|Psyduck}}|Simple Beam|Normal|Status|—|100|15|*||Cute|3|0}}
{{learnlist/breedf/6|Malamar|Dark|Psychic|1}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh/6|Malamar|Dark|Psychic|6|xy=n}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Bind|Normal|Physical|15|85|20|||no|yes|Tough|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Block|Normal|Status|—|—|5|||no|yes|Cute|2|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Foul Play|Dark|Physical|95|100|15||'''|no|yes|Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Knock Off|Dark|Physical|65|100|25||'''|no|yes|Clever|2|3}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Role Play|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|||no|yes|Cute|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|75|100|15|||no|yes|Beautiful|3|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Snatch|Dark|Status|—|—|10|||no|yes|Clever|1|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Snore|Normal|Special|50|100|15|||no|yes|Cute|4|0}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Spite|Ghost|Status|—|100|10|||no|yes|Tough|2|1}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Superpower|Fighting|Physical|120|100|5|||no|yes|Tough|6|0}}
{{learnlist/tutorf/6|Malamar|Dark|Psychic|6}}

====By a prior [[evolution]]====
{{Learnlist/prevoh/6|Malamar|Dark|Psychic|6|xy=n}}
{{Learnlist/prevo6|686|Inkay|e||||Happy Hour|Normal|Status|—|—|30||Cute|2|0}}
{{Learnlist/prevof/6|Malamar|Dark|Psychic|6}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox/Inkay}}

===Sprites===
{{Spritebox/Header|type=dark|type2=psychic}}
{{Spritebox/NA|gen=VI}}
{{Spritebox/6|ndex=687}}
{{Spritebox/Footer|687|Malamar}}

==Trivia==
* {{p|Inkay}} and Malamar have several unique attributes:
** In addition to Inkay's method of evolution into Malamar being unique, it would have been impossible in any of the previous [[core series]] Pokémon games, because the [[Nintendo 3DS]] is Nintendo's first handheld system with an internal {{wp|gyroscope}}.
** They are the only Pokémon in the {{egg3|Water 2}} that are not {{type|Water}}.
** They are the only Pokémon that can have the ability {{a|Contrary}} without it being their [[Hidden Ability]].
* Malamar and its pre-evolution were designed by [[Hitoshi Ariga]].<ref>[http://hitoshiariga.deviantart.com/art/Pocket-Monsters-XY-413536751 Pocket Monsters XY by HitoshiAriga on deviantART]</ref>
* Malamar is the only Pokémon with a [[catch rate]] of 80.

===Origin===
Malamar is based on an upside-down {{wp|squid}}. Its body orientation and hypnosis ability may have been inspired by the {{wp|vampire squid}}'s abilities to invert its tentacles and produce light.

====Name origin====
Malamar may be a combination of ''mal-'' (Latin for ''bad''), μαλάκιο ''malákio'' (Greek for ''{{wp|Mollusca|mollusk}}''), ''{{wp|Squid (food)|calamari}}'', and ''mare'' (Latin for ''sea''). It may also be a combination of the words malicious and calamari, cooked squid.

Calamanero may be from 絡ます ''karamasu'' (to entangle), ''calamari'', 魔 ''ma'' (demon), and possibly ''nero di seppia'' (Italian for {{wp|cephalopod ink}}).

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=Dark|type2=Psychic
|ja=カラマネロ ''Calamanero''|jameaning=Possibly from {{tt|絡ます ''karamasu''|to entangle}}, ''calamari'', {{tt|魔 ''ma''|demon}}, and possibly ''{{tt|nero di seppia|cephalopod ink}}''
|fr=Sepiatroce|frmeaning=From ''{{tt|sepia|Latin for cuttlefish}}'' and ''{{tt|atroce|atrocious}}''
|es=Malamar|esmeaning=Same as English name
|de=Calamanero|demeaning=Same as Japanese name
|it=Malamar|itmeaning=Same as English name
|ko=칼라마네로 ''Kallamanero''|komeaning=From its Japanese name
|zh_cmn=烏賊王 ''Wūzéiwáng''|zh_cmnmeaning=From {{tt|烏賊 ''wūzéi''|squid}} and {{tt|王 ''wáng''|king}}
|zh_yue=烏賊王 ''Wūchaahkwòhng''|zh_yuemeaning=From {{tt|烏賊 ''wūchaahk''|squid}} and {{tt|王 ''wòhng''|king}}
|hi=मालेमार ''Malamar''|himeaning=Transcription of English name
|ru=Маламар ''Malamar''|rumeaning=Transcription of English name
}}
{{-}}

==Related articles==
* {{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|Malamar|Malamar (anime)}}

==Notes==
<references/>

==External links==

{{PokémonPrevNextFoot | prev=Inkay | next=Binacle | type=Dark | type2=Psychic | prevnum=686 | nextnum=688 }}
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