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Talk:Shadow Rush (move)

2011-07-22T16:29:40Z

FrozenStrategy: Recoil in Colosseum

== Recoil in Colosseum ==

Having played Colosseum for a while, I have noticed that the recoil does not seem to coincide with the 25% recoil. For example, single-hitting a Dustox from full health caused only single digit damage, suggesting the Dustox had less than 40HP at level 37. This is simply not possible, also, after hardly doing any damage against a Steelix, approximately the same recoil was received. Finally, when I attacked my own to test, I managed to get a Gligar to do 48 damage against a Sneasel, which should have caused 12 recoil. Only 8 recoil was experienced. Therefore, it seems to me as though the recoil is set within a certain range. What do you think? [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 16:29, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Talk:List of unused Pokémon and character designs/Archive 1

2010-09-02T19:32:56Z

FrozenStrategy: Maybe Squirtle and Shuckle are related, in that case...

This page needs to be renamed, to something like "Unused Artwork" or "Unused Concept Art", due to the fact that somethings are not Pokémon. Also, am I the only one who sees a massive relation between {{p|Raichu}} and Honouguma, {{p|Cyndaquil}}? Nah it looks to me to be more of a possible Raichu evolution. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 19:32, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)

> Why would Raichu evolve into a Pokemon without "chu" in it's name, who according to it's own name is a Fire-type?

They were trying something different maybe? It just seems to bear an amazing resemblance. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]]

Did you guys think it was a pre-version of Teddiursa, but maybe scrapped when it was too related to Raichu. It is a bear, and a bear pokemon was released in Johto.
[[User:Firemaker|Firemaker]]

So, Bulbapedia has an article about Unreleased Pokémon, huh? Now all we need is an article on ''Fake'' Pokémon. - [[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]]

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== Validity issues ==

I've always found those sketches rather dubious now that I think about it. Where did they originally come from? Is there any proof at all that they are original concept art? - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 22:40, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

: Excellent question. However, I do know I remember seeing them way back then on PokéFor (note the fine print on the images) around the release of G/S. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 02:19, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

:The ones that were obviously scanned look like Sugimori's style, especially the trainers. So, at the very least, "Unnamed Mammal" and "Unnamed Turtle" are real. One can even see the turtle with Tyranitar in the Male Trainer art. I don't know what those other rough sketches are, though. They aren't Sugimori. --[[User:Argy|Argy]] 05:04, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

== Commentary issues ==

'''Unnamed mammal'''

''The Unnamed mammal has been said to resemble Hitmontop or Meowth''
:Really? I definately see some {{p|Wigglytuff}} in there! [[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] 17:20, 26 November 2005 (CST)
::This is gonna sound weird, but something about the design reminds me of {{p|Snubbull}}. It's the blue collar on a pink creature thing, I think. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 14:58, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

'''Kurusu'''

''This creature resembles a seal, but doesn't seem to have much relation to any Pokémon as of yet''
: [[Image:Alpha kurusu.png]][[Image:086Seel.png|200px]]
: --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] 14:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

'''Unnamed turtle'''

''A turtle Pokémon that was never released. It's possible it was later heavily reworked into Torkoal.''
:Am I the only one who sees Swampert's head in there? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] 14:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

== Pictures ==

What website are those pictures from?--[[User:Ambipom|Ambipom]]--

== Other names and additional info ==

Back when Gold and Silver were about to come out, i remember there was an article in Gamepro magazine about the Japanese Gold and Silver that had a LOOONG list of beta Japanese names for the new pokemon, and the same article also had a few temporary English names. The ones I remember: Artibull instead of Smeargle and Xoqo instead of Xatu. Only problem is, that article is long gone. Can anyone help out?
--[[User: Jurgen200|Jurgen200]]--

Check out this list...

*152 Chikorita Chicolita
*153 Bayleef Beifiru
*154 Meganium Meganiumi
*155 Cyndaquil Hinoarashi
*156 Quilava Magumarashi
*157 Typhlosion Bakufun
*158 Totodile Waninoko
*159 Croconaw Arigeitsu
*160 Feraligatr Odairu
*161 Sentret Otachi
*162 Furret Ootachi
*163 Hoothoot Hoho
*164 Noctowl Yorunozuku
*165 Ledyba Rediba
*166 Ledian Redeian
*167 Spinarak Itomaru
*168 Araidos Araidosu
*169 Kurobat Kuroba
*170 Chinchou Chonchi
*171 Lanturn Rantan
*172 Pichu Pichu
*173 Cleffa Pi
*174 Igglybuff Pupurin
*175 Togepi Togepi
*176 Togetic Togechikku
*177 Natee Neitei
*178 Natotem Neiteio
*179 Mareep Meripu
*180 Skiploom Mokoko
*181 Centerity Denryu
*182 Bellossom Kireihana
*183 Marill Mariru
*184 Azumarill Mariruri
*185 Sudowoodo Usokki
*186 Politoed Myorotono
*187 Hoppip Hane
*188 Flaffy Popo
*189 Jumpluff Watakko
*190 Aipom Eipamu
*191 Sunkern Himanattsu
*192 Sunflora Kimawari
*193 Dunsparce Yanyanma
*194 Ampharos Upa
*195 Quagsire Nuoh
*196 Espeon Efui
*197 Umbreon Burakki
*198 Murkrow Yamikarasu
*199 Slowking Yadoking
*200 Trillix Muuma
*201 ????? Annon
*202 Crashin Sonansu
*203 Girafarig Kirinriki
*204 Skarmory Kunugidama
*205 Forretress Fuoretosu
*206 Duglari Nokocchi
*207 Gligar Guraiga
*208 Steelix Haganeru
*209 Snubbull Buru
*210 Granbull Guranburu
*211 Wobbuffet Harisen
*212 Scizor Hassamu
*213 Octorock Tsubotsubo
*214 Heracross Herakuroso
*215 Misdreavus Nyuura
*216 Moonlite Himeguma
*217 Soloar Ringuma
*218 Slugma Magumaggu
*219 Magcargo Magukarugo
*220 Swinub Urimu
*221 Sirnub Inomu
*222 Corsola Sanigo
*223 Remoraid Teppouo
*224 Octillery Okutan
*225 Delibird Deribado
*226 Mantine Maintain
*227 Wooper Eamudo
*228 Houndour Derubiru
*229 Houndoom Heruga
*230 Kingdra Kingudora
*231 Phanpy Gomazou
*232 Donphan Donfuyan
*233 Porygon 2 Porygon 2
*234 Stantler Odoshishi
*235 Artibull Doburu
*236 Hitmontot Baruki
*237 Hitmontop Kapoera
*238 Smoochum Muchura
*239 Elekid Erekid
*240 Magby Bubii
*241 Miltank Mirutanku
*242 Blissey Hapinasu
*243 Raikou Raikou
*244 Entei Entei
*245 Suicune Suikun
*246 Larvitar Yogirasu
*247 Pupitar Sanagirasu
*248 Tyranitar Bangirasu
*249 Lugia Lugia
*250 Ho-Oh Houou
*251 Selebi Serebeii

[http://maxpages.com/ashversusgary/Gold_Silver_Pokedex Source]
--[[User:Ambipom|Ambipom]]--
:Seems as if some, like Flaaffy and Skiploom, are flipped. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 22:52, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

::Wow, I actually remember those lists from back when G/S wasn't out in English yet. Every site had their own list of names that were confirmed, then had potential names that had been registered as copyrights or whatever listed somewhere and had people try to figure out which name went to which Pokémon.

::So, of course, the reason a few of them are mixed around is because the list was made when we could see what names had been registered (domain names of each Pokémon's name usually get registered by Nintendo ahead of time, or something like that); nobody knew what a Skiploom actually was, so Flaaffy ended up with the name Skiploom in most fans' lists (I guess nobody noticed the hop-skip-jump thing.)

::There's even a few of the common misspellings of the Japanese names that showed up in a lot of magazines and stuff before G/S's English release. "Hane"/"Popo" instead of Hanekko/Popokko, for example. With those in the list, I'm actually surprised the list doesn't have "Yanyan" listed as Umbreon/Burakki's Japanese name--that was a disturbingly common slip-up that magazines used to make back then.

::I do remember some of those names, but as far as I know "Natee" and "Natotem" never actually came from any sort of official source (either stated in Nintendo Power or registered online somewhere)--I actually remember talking about how "Xatu" and "Xoqo" (the guesses for Natu and Xatu's names at the time) were good names once, and someone randomly butted in and said that they should be named "something like Naytee or Natotem" instead. So yeah, those two are definitely fan-made names, probably made by people who wanted Cheesy Cram-Two-Words-Together Names and didn't like the much-more-interesting ones like Xatu. I also don't remember "Octorock" as a name for Tsubotsubo--and it's extremely unlikely that Nintendo was ever considering it, since it's already the name of a well-known Zelda monster. [[User:Zdododododo|Zdododododo]] 07:42, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

::The dodgy Maxpages fansites aside, here is what turned up from google searches of "Artibull" "Trillix" "Duglari" and "Xoqo":
http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/archive/index.php?t-19796.html [THIS GUY KNOWS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT]
http://www.woodrecords.com/megahangout/Pokedex_4_Gold_and_Silver [early list, including the games they're found in]
http://maxpages.com/pokemonil/Gold_and_Silver_English_Names
http://maxpages.com/pokepapparazzi/Pokemon
http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbcolor/file/198308/9132 [japanese walkthru with english names pasted in - confused names in the pokedex]
http://theoparadise.tripod.com/oldnews.htm [scroll down for pokemon list]
http://guidesarchive.ign.com/guides/11154/marowak.html ["guardia"]
http://www.pokebeach.com/pokemon.shtml [has all the beta names for red blue pkmn]
http://www.angelfire.com/md2/lugia149/list.html [all correct except for xoqo and torvado]
http://www.math.miami.edu/~jam/azure/forum/tuff/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=001495 [forum chatter about name confusion]
http://members.fortunecity.com/putobracker/90.html [artibull and hitmontot, however its foreign]
http://maxpages.com/tecnospokemon/POKEMON_GOLD_AND_SILVER_ATTACK ["milk berry" is the beta "milk drink" attack btw]
http://maxpages.com/tecnospokemon/NEW_GOLD_AND_SILVER_ATTACKS_2
http://pokemaniac2948.tripod.com/Attacks/ [funny guessed attack names - atom force and gang beating lol]
http://members.tripod.com/alyshakitty/pokedex2.html
http://members.tripod.com/alyshakitty/pokedex2p3.html
http://members.tripod.com/alyshakitty/pokedex2p4.html
http://members.tripod.com/alyshakitty/pokedex2p5.html
All of the Kanto names mentioned on these and other websites are genuine beta names. The poster included with my first edition 2BA Master CD had about 15 out 150 pokemon with the bizarre beta names like "dragoon" and "Guardia". These names are on the Pokemon's individual pages but they should be collected together. Same with the gold and silver names, at least a paragraph explaining the confusion that occurred among the fans. Sorry if this entry is too long and rambly :) [[User:Jurgen200|Jurgen200]]

I remember something like that in a magazine too, with beta images of the pokemon w/beta names. I lost it though. I think it was in Beckett.
[[User: Firemaker|Firemaker]]

what are crashin, trillix and number 201?- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Nobody777}} ([[User talk:Nobody777|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nobody777|contribs]]) ''
:Crashin (Sonansu) is {{p|Wobbuffet}}, Trillix (Muuma) is {{p|Misdreavus}}, and ????? (Annon) is {{p|Unown}}. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 13:41, 27 January 2010 (UTC))

== Is honouguma somehow related to the [[Pikachu]] and [[Marill]], much like the three birds? ==

[[Image:183Marill.png]][[Image:Alpha honouguma.png]][[Image:025Pikachu.png]] 
Am I the only one to see a connection here? - [[User:Yukushi wisdom|Yukushi wisdom]] 19:15, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:Hmm... Yeah, I see one. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:16, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah... [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 14:45, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

== Unown ==

Those "unreleased" Unown don't have to be unreleased.

*They don't count as Beta Pokémon because they were revealed after the release of Gold/Silver.
*I doubt they were ever meant to exist in games. They might be just anime-made.
*The pictures of Unowns seen in third movie are just pictures of several drawings of Unown. They may be a pure fiction. That's possible that these Unowns never existed, but someone drew them like that.

This page is about Pokémon which didn't make it to the final game. Those Unowns aren't one of them. They are anime-wank and no one says they were ever meant to exist. Those pictures in the movie were just DRAWINGS made by PEOPLE, not photos of real Unown. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 18:15, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

== "2v2" Template? ==

There's a template on the top of the page, and I don't know what it is supposed to be, could someone figure that out and fix it? [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 16:01, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

:It's been taken care of. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 16:06, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

::Thanks for that. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 16:29, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

== octorok comment ==

kirby has an ally named "chuchu" thats also zelda[[User:Whatswithalltheextraspace|Whatswithalltheextraspace]] 23:37, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::Zelda's Chuchus didn't show up until LONG after Kirby's Dreamland 3. Plus, they're both gooey blob monsters that can stick to things, so it could be that the Zelda one was actually named after the Kirby one (or both were named after some other non-videogame-related thing... Japanese game/anime/etc. characters tend to have names like that pretty often.)[[User:Zdododododo|Zdododododo]] 19:39, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

== Page Title ==

The page title says unreleased Pokémon, yet there are designs of prototype player characters that definitely aren't Pokémon. I want to move the psge to something more appropriate, but what?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 00:25, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe something like Unreleased Concept Artwork would be more accurate? Although since some of these are from magazines, saying the artwork itself is unreleased wouldn't be true...so something like Beta Concept Artwork? [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 00:40, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
::Sometimes it's better to keep it simple. This is one of those times. [[User:GlinnMgraw|'''Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw''']] 07:22, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

== Pikachu.. ==

Does that really count? It's still Pikachu,it's just a little bigger(like a lot of the pre-anime designs,just look at the starters),and I'm pretty sure that came out after the games were released. Also,but offtopic,with Leaf..Should it be said she is Leaf? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 03:48, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

== Charizard.. ==

Should we include the Charizard from the same art as the Pikachu? It has a larger jaw then a regular Charizard, and is larger. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 17:05, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:Many Pokémon designs change over the years. It's a completely different matter. It's simply early art, not really an unreleased thing. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:49, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

== unnamed turtle ==

In the male trainer section, the unnamed turtle is in the picture. Does this suggest that it is early art for {{p|Squirtle}}? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 23:50, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

== Starters? ==

Could Kurusu and Honoguma have originally been intended to be the Water and Fire Starters to go with Happa? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 14:29, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

== Does anyone remember this? ==

i just remember when I was a kid i had a magazine that showed all the then 100 new Pokémon. But they we're not in their Sugimori art. And I can't remember if they had their English names. If anyone remember, would it be useful?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 05:08, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

if you can remember the name of the magazine and what issue and maybe post them on the talk page maybe they can be qualified as unreleased.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 17:49, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

== Torchic and blaziken beta art ==

From did that art come from???--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 18:48, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
:I've seen that in 151chan (posted by a very trustable person). It seems to be photographed from some gallery. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 18:51, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

are there anymore pictures we can post or at least a reference??--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 19:26, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

== Green? It's BLUE! and other conflicts involving the Character section ==

I was reading a scanlation of Pokémon Special when I saw one of the pics that's in
this article in it!(It's the black-and-white pic of Red, Green, and Blue with thier fully-evolved starters.) I was immediatly reminded of the article and went to it, sure that the page
said that the pic was beta art.

And I was wrong, but I saw something else!

The page said that the girl in the aforementioned pic was Green.

Either Green had a gender change or the article's wrong!

Here's who's who- with the boys equated with their Anime counterparts-

Red-"Ash"

Green-"Gary"

Blue-the girl

The article needs fixing, but since this also goes into parts I don't know about-
I'm still reading Red-Green-Blue- I can't fully proofread it.

Also, I think the book under the color pic showing Red, Green, and Blue with
thier unevolved starters is Pokemon Special- at least a copy of it.
[[User:ThaPoketrix|ThePoketrix]] 22:24, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
:The rival's name is Blue. He's known as Blue when he's an NPC in GSC and HGSS as a Gym Leader. However, he is known as Green in Japanese. As such, the girl's name would be Green, or Blue in Japanese, as was done in the manga. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 22:30, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
::Some fans have a tendency to mix Japanese names with English (especially in the case of Blue/Green). But they're not right. Trust official sources, not scanslations made by fans. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 07:33, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

== Who is that? ==

Who is supposed to be riding the Latias/Blaziken Pokemon in the artwork? [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 23:30, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
:Some unused trainer obviously. Maybe they should have their own entry?--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 04:29, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone else think so? [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 06:06, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
::This very artwork was later heavily remade by Sugimori into a scene artwork with actual Latias and Latios. There's a girl that rides that Latios on that art. This isn't really the same girl but she looks a bit similar. You know which artwork I mean, don't you? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 07:50, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Unfortunately, no. I didn't really pay attention to art and stuff with Gen III. Can you show me the art?--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 11:18, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
::::It's at {{File:Latias_Latios.png}}. But I don't know if it's that important to this article-- unlike some of the Pokémon or characters on this page, this character probably was never intended to appear in any game. Methinks this artwork is merely intended to be just that, artwork. It doesn't have to correspond with anything from any game. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 12:10, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::She's still an unreleased character with beta art.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 12:18, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

== Unnamed Turtle And Shuckle? ==

Though the article states it is similar to Squirtle, could it possibly be an evolved form of Shuckle? They both have a shell, they both have similarly shaped heads and considering Shuckle was introduced in generation II, it could have been an expansion on the family. Think of the expansions on gen II families in gen IV. This could have been the same thing. I do agree, however, it does look like Squirtle though. [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 19:32, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Pal Park

2010-09-02T17:15:44Z

FrozenStrategy: Querying, again...

Does transferring to Gen4 this way count as a trade? Meaning, if you send a Machoke over, will it evolve?

No, it counts as a capture. Essentially you're releasing the Pokemon into the wilds of the Pal Park for it to be captured by another character. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 04:29, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Here's a minor question - does Flash count as an HM move? Because it's an HM in GIII and a TM in GIV. So would it have to be removed to transfer? --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 20:21, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
:Yes. Any move that is an HM move in '''any''' Generation III or IV game counts as an HM move. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Talk]]|[[User:Shiny Noctowl/Trivia|Trivia quiz]][[Image:224MS.gif]] 23:26, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I've been told that you can only access Pal Park after defeating the Elite Four-is this true? If so, this information needs to be put in the article. --[[User:Lime|Lime]] 19:16, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

False, you only need the National Dex. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 01:45, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:Well, yeah, but you need to beat the Elite Four to get the National Dex...--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 08:44, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

::False, you only need to see all 150 Sinnoh Pokémon. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 15:59, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

:::Umm, False :-P, you have to also defeat the elite four. So before you go "False" people, rudely I might add, check your facts. [[User:Uses Wikipedia Alot|Uses Wikipedia Alot]] 17:55, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

::::Actually, you're the one who should be listening to your own advice. Zhen Lin has already done it. [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=290505&postcount=10] --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:09, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

:::::Err, My couz has gotten the National Dex before he beat the elite four...he saw all the Pokémon then got beaten up by Cynthia's Lucario...[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35]] 07:22, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok, when I start my game, nothing affects the menu. It doesn't say Migrate from FireRed in my Diamond. I already have the National Dex, and I have beaten the E4. Now what? I also saved there and there is a FireRed game in the DS's GBA slot.[[User:Trainer Siblings Takumi and Mari|Trainer Siblings Takumi and Mari]] 13:14, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:Are you using a regular DS or DS lite? The regular DS holds the game in much better, so be sure that the cartridge is all the way in before you turn on the DS. You also might have to save at a Pokémon Center in FR, but I'm not sure, because I always do anyway. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 20:25, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:Have you visited the pal park at least once already? maybe the optione needs to be triggered there as well. {{u|Kendai}}
== Pal Park areas? ==

Should the Pokémon that can be found in the different Pal Park areas be on this page or on a separate one? Also, should that be listed in the infobox for the Pokémon species? '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 23:26, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:The best place in the species articles would probably be the locations section.
:The list by areas may be best on a seperate page just because of how many there are. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 12:40, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

== Transfer from Johto ??? ==
I've just noticed that there is a possibility of getting a Pokémon from Johto.... I admit, I used a hacking method, Pokesav precisely. I wonder what does it mean? Maybe a GSC remake ...? [[User:Piotr mil|Piotr mil]] 18:27, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
:The hackers did note that interesting piece of data a while ago. It doesn't affect this article, though, since a GS remake would be for DS, ''not'' GBA. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 20:06, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

== Pokétch Apps. ==

Should the girl that hands the Color Changer and Kitchen Timer apps over be noted in this article?[[User:Angerman|Josh]] 00:46, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't think so. They could just check the Poketch article
~[[User:Mr.lol|Mr.lol]]

== Glitch??? ==
I need help. I migrated six pokemon from FireRed, but, when I go to the Pal Park and I find one of the pokemon I migrated, the game freezes. CAN YOU HELP ME????
:Did you use GameShark or ActionReplay on either? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 04:03, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
::if you have arceus at the front of the party, the game will freeze - check the article, it took me ages to work out why my diamond kept freezing. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]] [[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 16:23, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Are you sure about that? I have an Arceus in my top slot most times when I migrate, and the only time the game ever froze was when Arceus was ''holding an item''. However if Arceus is in the top slot without an item, it doesn't freeze. --[[User:Jennyrogue|JennyRogue]] 01:30, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

== HM moves? ==

I plan on transferring my Mudkip from my Emerald version to my Diamond version, but it knows some HM moves...is there any way I can replace them? ~ [[User:Shippinator Mandy|Shippinator Mandy]] 07:18, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, re-teach them after the transfer.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 07:30, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:You'd have to delete them at the move deleter's house before the transfer, dump the Mudkip into Pal Park, and finally, reteach the moves (except Dive, sorry) in DP. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
You can relearn dive. [[User:Kingdonfin|Kingdonfin]] 06:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

== Trivia addition? ==

According to a quick look-over of a chart on the back of a tear-out map from the "ultimate national pokédex" it seems two pokemon outside of legendary and starter pokémon, Tangela and Tropius, MUST be imported through pal park before any more can be obtained by breeding. Interesting to note that they are both grass type and have english names starting with the letter T. {{u|Kendai}}
:We know about it, but apparently, Tropius and Tangela have in-game locations. Tropius is found in the [[Great Marsh]] as one of the changer Pokémon and Tangela in the snowy area of [[Mt. Coronet]] as a swarmer. Doesn't mean that it's the easiest way to get the two (I prefer to go for {{rt|21}} and {{rt|119}} in Gen III, personally, then Pal Park them), but it's possible to get them without Gen III. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:22, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Should their be information about the Pal Park being Language Locked?

--[[User:HOTMAMADILLS|HOTMAMADILLS]] 15:58, 23 May 2008 (UTC)I think that would be a great idea. it took me days of researching on google before i figured it out, (english saphire, french diamond) so yes.

== Problem ==

Me and my sister are having a problem with trading Pokemon over from LeafGreen to Pearl. The game keeps saying we are using a different DS , but my sister is using her DS , that she always uses. What's up with that happening?
:* [[User:Evil Sonic|Evey]] [[Image:Ani134MS.gif]][[User talk:Evil Sonic|☆]] 00:16, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:No, no. You're doing it wrong. You insert the Leafgreen into the SAME DS as the Pearl is in. Then you do it. You don't use two DS. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 00:51, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

:That's what we did. But it's not a problem anymore. [[User:Evil Sonic|[b]Evil Sonic....[/b]]] 23:53, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

::Is it true if you migrate a pokemon into pal park it will disappear from my saphire and appear on my pearl. just checking before i do it. Dont want my Torchic to disappear!! :( Vulpix 2010 3 april 2010

:::Yes, they '''will''' dissappear from Sapphire. Its such as shame, if only they had just let you copy the Pokémon and mark them as uploaded. You can easily sign your comments using <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> by the way :). --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 14:11, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

==Pokémon==
Should I put a section on where you find the Pokemon in the Pal Park by migration? [[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!!!!!]]
:[[List of Pokémon by Pal Park location|Already done]]. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:45, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
::Yes noticed that hours ago [[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!!!!!]]

== DSi ==
With the DSi Pal Park will Be Impossible whilst using that. =[--[[User:David aipom|Davidaipom]] 20:33, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:Not completely true, as you can enter pal park on a DSi. If you migrate the Pokémon from a regular DS, then switch the game and put it in a DSi, You will still enter Pal park and can In fact Migrate. [[User:ShinyPikachu|ŚĥîΠŶPî₭₳ĉĥŭ]] 23:01, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
::Unless you don't have a DS or DS Lite anymore, so to the owners of a DSi, Nintendo is just saying, "Screw you." :( [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 05:06, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

== HeartGold and SoulSilver ==

Is it probable that the G/S remakes will include a Pal Park? They're DS games, possibly DSi-enhanced, but still DS games, so the GBA slot serves purpose, which is the same as in D/P/Pt. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 17:10, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:While it is possible, nothing is going in any article until it is confirmed by the proper sources. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 02:55, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
::So now that it ''is'' confirmed... does it look the same as the Sinnoh one? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:24, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

==Once Day==

My brother can Migrate Pokemon as many times a day as he wants but on Pokemon Platinum I can only Migrate once, why is this? [[User:Kingdonfin|Kingdonfin]] 06:10, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
:It's only meant to be once a day. Chances are your brother is exercising some kind of cheat. For a more definitive answer, try using our [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 forums]. This page is intended for discussing the article, not the subject of it. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:07, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
::I discovered recently that I can migrate Pokemon from my copy of Ruby to my copy of HeartGold as many times as I want. I lent Ruby to my brother over Christmas and got it back less than a month ago. When I got it back, the time played was 999:59. He had been taping the up button down and walking against the hills to level his Pokemon in the daycare overnight. I haven't fixed the [[Berry_glitch|Berry Glitch]] yet, and since I got the game used, I don't know if it's been fixed before. I'm trying to find that out, to see if having the berry glitch allows for unlimited Pal Park migrations. We'll see.--[[User:Dratini Egg|Dratini Egg]] 17:43, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:::It's been confirmed that HGSS has no limit on Pal Parking... ever since it came out in Japan. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 17:45, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, I somehow missed that. I apologize for jumping to any conclusions. If it's appropriate to delete my comment above, go ahead.--[[User:Dratini Egg|Dratini Egg]] 18:54, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

== Is this true and if it is can i add it to trivia. ==

That in the korean versions of DPPt, there is not palpark or something i heard.--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 04:49, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I used WTW and it's there and working. --[[User:Master Emerald|Master Emerald]] 15:47, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

== Image ==

I'm new here, something seems to be up with the map image link. There isn't a corresponding one on the Archives, so whoever does the images here should look into it. --[[User:DekuScrubby|DekuScrubby]] 17:47, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

== Clarification ==

"Pal Park was previously the only way in which players could complete their Pokémon collections in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum. Following the release of HeartGold and SoulSilver, all Pokémon can be obtained within the Generation IV games."
:So how does one go about obtaining Celebi, Jirachi and Deoxys in Gen 4, Pokemon the article itself says can only be transferred through Pal Park? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 08:52, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
::Events. I know at least Deoxys has had a Gen4 event, the others wouldn't surprise me. Especially Celebi, now that HGSS exists. --[[User:Keiya|Keiya]] 03:50, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Jirachi also has an event. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 03:52, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

== international transfer ==

I have a question, can i transfer too if the gba catridge is a American version transferring it to the Italian One, like this.

Pokemon FireRed Version to Pokemon Versione Platino. Please help me, because i don't know what to do--

:I believe this is not possible, sorry. --[[User:Veggieman|veggieman]] [[User talk:Veggieman|(leave a message after the click?)]] 19:17, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

== Pokérus ==

Does Pokérus transfer along with the migrated pokémon?

== hacks? ==

Does Pal Park work with fake/hacked catridges, i.e. ChaosBlack? --[[User:Veggieman|veggieman]] [[User talk:Veggieman|(leave a message after the click?)]] 19:52, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

== Evolution ==

If a Pokémon meets the requirements to evolve, (IE: trading), will it evolve? Considering something received from Pal Park gets boosted EXP, then that would indicate it was obtained via trade, right? So, if a Seadra holding a Dragon Scale was to be transferred to a gen IV game, through Pal Park, would it evolve into Kingdra? [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 17:15, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Pansage (Pokémon)

2010-08-26T16:27:58Z

FrozenStrategy: /* Physiology */ Linking...

{{Unknown Pokémon}}
{{PokémonPrevNext | type=grass | prevnum=??? | nextnum=??? | prev=??? | next=??? }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
jname=ヤナップ |
tmname=Yanappu |
image=Yanappu.png |
size=180px|
art=BW |

idex=??? |
typen=1 |
type1=Grass |
type2= |
species=Grass Monkey |

height-m=0.6 |

weight-kg=10.5 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Gluttony |
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([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ヤナップ''' ''Yanappu'') is a {{type2|Grass}} Pokémon introduced in [[Generation V]].

==Biology==
===Physiology===

Yanappu is a primate-like, green-and-yellow Grass-type Pokémon. The proportion of its head and large ears are similar to that of {{p|Aipom}}. The upper half of its head and the broccoli-like sprout atop is green, exempting a pattern of three yellow, tapered seed-like shapes in the sprout’s “foliage”. Yanappu’s eyes are oval-shaped, with large pupils, and the lower half of its face is yellow with a small, dot-like nose. Its upper body and its skinny forelimbs are also yellow, and its hands seem to have no fingers, aside from thumbs. Yanappu’s lower body is green with small feet, and its wiry tail is tipped with two leaves.

====Gender differences====

====Special abilities====

===Behavior===

===Habitat===

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
===Major appearances===

===Minor appearances===

====Other====

==In the manga==

==In the TCG==


==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=Grass
|gen=5
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=grass |
gen=5 |
bwarea=Unknown |
}}

====In side games====

===Stats===

====Base stats====

===Type effectiveness===
{{Type effectiveness|
type1=grass|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 200 |
Ground= 50 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 200 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric= 50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====

===Side game data===

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|family=Normal
|sprite1=SpriteYanappu
|name1=Yanappu
|type1-1=Grass
|fake1=yes}}

===Sprites===

==Trivia==
*Yanappu was first seen, together with {{p|Kibago}}, as a toy featured in [[n:Movie 13, Bandai possibly reveal new Pokémon|two images seen July 2010]], but it wasn't named and nothing was known about it. In the beginning of August a fake leak of the September issue of CoroCoro showed its own version of this Pokémon. Yanappu was officially revealed August 22, 2010 by [[Pokémon Sunday]].

===Origin===
Yanappu is based off a monkey and a tree.

====Name origin====

Yanappu's name may come from 柳 ''yanagi'', meaning ''{{wp|willow}}''.

==In other languages==

==Related articles==

==External links==
{{PokémonPrevNext | type=grass | prevnum=??? | nextnum=??? | prev=??? | next=??? }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}

[[de:Yanappu]]
[[ja:ヤナップ]]

User:FrozenStrategy

2010-08-25T18:33:41Z

FrozenStrategy: Testing...

Hey, I'm FrozenStrategy, an Ice-Type trainer and grand strategist.

Talk:Counter (move)

2010-08-23T17:41:18Z

FrozenStrategy:

== Mirror Coat vs. Counter in the anime ==

Not sure how to word it, but in the anime, a few episodes did take into account that Mirror Coat and Counter are different. One of them was about Misty's Corsola and Mirror Coat (being unable to counter a Hyper Beam according to the old in-game rules), and the most notable event was when Duplica explained their difference in [[EP174#Trivia|Imitation Confrontation]]; in this episode, Counter and Mirror Coat were explained by Duplica as if Generation IV rules were the ones applied. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 18:00, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:The problem is Wobbuffet has reflected ''everything'' with Counter...although I guess one has to concede that the anime tried to fix this later.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 19:33, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

As a reference point, the episode where Brock (falsely) explains that Mirror Coat can only counter Water attacks is [[EP217]]. On [[Jessie's Wobbuffet]]'s page, it explains in the Trivia section that Jessie often merely asks for Wobbuffet to counter an attack (though admittedly, she does often say "Counter Attack" against a special attack.)--[[User:Scoobsz21|Scoobsz21]] 00:02, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

== Move unreachable in Generation II games ==

There is a problem with the data for Generation II games. As given here, it is impossible for any pokemon other than Heracross, Gligar, Scyther, Paras, Wobbuffet, Hitmonchan, and Hitmontop to ever learn it. It is an egg move for a number of other pokemon, but it is not given how any of them learn it from a pokemon who learns it by level. Clearly there is an omission; someone please correct this. [[User:Parasect|Parasect]] 07:39, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:Trades from Gen I say hi. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

== Counter ==

I think we may need to be a bit careful about uses in the anime. Counter and counter are very very close. Maybe Caterpie wasn't using Counter, he was countering? Same with Staryu? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 11:17, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

== One-hit KO moves ==

If a one-hit KO move is used while Substitute is in play, the subsitute is broken, and on the next turn, counter will also be a one-hit KO. Where does this go in the article? [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 08:16, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:No it doesn't. A OHKO makes an opponent with full HP faint in one move, counter doesn't as you have less HP than your maximum HP.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 08:33, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

== Wonder Guard ==

Will a Pokémon Wonder Guard be hit by Counter? Same for Mirror Coat. [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 17:41, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Shedinja (Pokémon)

2010-08-21T20:51:54Z

FrozenStrategy: People change with age and generation, Pokémon do too, it seems...

== HP ==

Does the HP of Shedinja ever raise above one with leveling? {{unsigned|Viridis.net@gmail.com}}

Nope. It stays 1 forever. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 19:07, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

The article says the only way to know Shedinja's HP IV is finding out its "brother" Ninjask IV, but couldn't we figure it out by knowing Hidden Power type and power? [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] 23:49, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
:I think you are confusing {{stat|HP}} and {{m|Hidden Power|HP}}. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 23:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
::But isn't {{m|Hidden Power|HP}} determined by IVs such as {{stat|HP}}'s? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 23:57, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
:::{{m|Hidden Power}}'s type and power depend on every stat IV. If you know the Attack, Defense, Special Attack, Special Defense and Speed IV, then knowing our Shedinja's Hidden Power type and power would take us to an obvious conclusion of its HP IV, wouldn't it? [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] 00:43, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
::::No, it wouldn't. The formula for calculating the strength and type of Hidden Power relies only on the IVs modulo 2 and modulo 4. For example, if you could change a Shedinja's HP IV from 1 to 29, the type and power of Hidden Power would not change. This is because 1 and 29 are congruent modulo 2 and modulo 4. For more information, see the "Number of possible Hidden Powers" section of the Hidden Power calculation article. [[User:Ali 247|Ali 247]] 17:53, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

== Best type? ==

Due to Shedinja's ability, Wonder Guard, is there any combined set of types that would leave it immune to damage (not counting status-affecting moves and weather)? [[User:Casmith 789|Casmith 789]] 15:18, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
:Dark/Ghost and Ghost/Dark, the types of {{p|Spiritomb}} and {{p|Sableye}}, combine to have no weakness (except when Foresight, Odor Sleuth, and/or Miracle Eye are used). Neither of them have Wonder Guard, though. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 03:09, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks, after finally catching a Spiritomb I figured this out for myself! [[User:Casmith 789|Casmith 789]] 08:46, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
maybe it would be more usable with the Focus Sash?- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Logicalfighter666|Logicalfighter666]] ([[User talk:Logicalfighter666|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Logicalfighter666|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
there would be no such thing as a super effective attack.
:::It's completely impossible to be immune from damage, no matter what one does. Even a (hacked, let's say) Dark/Ghost-type with Wonder Guard would be hurt by weather attacks. Since you can't combine Air Lock and Wonder Guard, it is impossible to not take any damage. [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 14:40, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Double Battle. But you are right that it is impossible to be immune from damage: status damage. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 14:43, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

== Poke ball ==

Ive tried evolving a nincada twice in my diamond game and it only gave me a shedinja the second time after id bought a poke ball, in both instances i had a spare space in my party.
Perhaps you only need a poke ball in diamond/pearl?- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Itxi|Itxi]] ([[User talk:Itxi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Itxi|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:I've always done it with an extra Pokéball. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 08:59, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
::I was wondering because in the trivia section it states that one isnt needed. --[[User:Itxi|Itxi]] 09:02, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Then where does the Pokéball in my inventory go once I've obtained Shedinja, hmm? --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 09:09, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
::::Presicely, I just thought it might be better to start a discussion on it first than just deleting the text. --[[User:Itxi|Itxi]] 09:11, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::You're wrong. I just tested it out. I got a Nincada in my party with an extra slot. I didn't have any Poké balls. When it evolved, I still got a Shedinja. If a Poké ball dissapears when you get a Shedinja then you're being ripped off. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]][[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]] 09:20, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::What game are you playing? I said that i tried it with a pokeball and without and it only works with. This is on Diamond --[[User:Itxi|Itxi]] 09:28, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::This is Emerald. I don't know. Maybe the mechanics are different in in Diamond. But you definetly don't need a Poké Ball in Emerald.
::::::::Hopefully that edit covers it all :) --[[User:Itxi|Itxi]] 09:36, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::We may want to clarify that the Poké Ball needed must be an actual Poké Ball and not any other type of Ball, eg. Great Ball, Net Ball, or Dusk Ball. [[User:ESeamus|ESeamus]] 07:41, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::: I was bold and edited it. [[User:Lady BlahDeBlah|Lady BlahDeBlah]] 11:29, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::I think that maybe Eseamus was right, because a friend of mine tried it with a great ball, and it didn't work. [[User talk:Dolphin2|Dolphins]] [[User:Dolphin2|are]] [[Special:Contributions/Dolphin2|awesome]] (and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too) 19:16, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

== Recent Edit ==

Is the whole thing about the hole in the back being visible needed? I mean, of course it's going to be visible, your looking at it from a behind perspective, AND it is a video game, they don't steal your soul. --[[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight Celtic]] 18:39, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
:Well, how it appears in the anime would be way more realistic. You're right, if you die in a bloody video for example, or get hurt, you're perfectly fine in real life. So I think that trivia is pretty pointless, it's not like it's a goof. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 11:20, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's wrong because you have to look insde the hole, not look at it from afar. the back sprite shows it from afar, whereas if you wanted your soul to be stolen, you would have to put your eye up close to Shedinja... XD. I'll remove it. [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 11:34, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
:::I removed it weeks ago... somebody must have added it again...[[User:Crystallucario|'''''Crystal''''']] [[User talk:Crystallucario|'''''Lucario''''']] 11:50, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

== Breeding ==

If you breed a Shedinja with a Ditto, will you get a Nincada or another Shedinja? It doesn't say anywhere on the page. Since Shedinja is just Nincada's old exoskeleton brought to life, it would be weird if it could produce a whole new Nincada on its own. - [[User:Buddy Christ|Buddy Christ]] 22:44, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
:Last time I checked Shedinja doesn't have a gender, and I somehow doubt that a Ditto can breed the genderless as it has gender last time I remember. You can prove me wrong, it has been a long time since I last checked. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:32, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
::Ditto can breed with the genderless, otherwise we'd have no {{p|Phione}}, no baby {{p|Porygon}}, and a heck of a lot of problems. It's the genderless that can't interbreed. Ditto makes it all possible (unless you're in the {{egg2|No eggs}}). It results in a Nincada, same as if you bred the Ninjask. The only odd thing is... Shedinja is in the {{egg2|Mineral}}... Nincada and Ninjask are in the {{egg|Bug}}... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:47, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Ditto is genderless(random comment).[[User:Kkllnn|Blastoise RULZ]] 21:07, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

== Scrappy or Foresight will onlywork with Mold Breaker ==
As they aren't super-effective even after Foresight (and Fighting wouid even be "resisted"). --[[User:Gorebyss|Gorebyss]] 08:21, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

== Focus Sash ==

what would happen when focus sash is equipped to shedy? [[User:Atomix26|Atomix26]] 19:08, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:It can withstand one hit that would otherwise faint it. — [[User:Laoris|Laoris]] ([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]]) 19:17, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, since Focus Sash is only one use. But if you equip Focus Band, then it's possible it could survive for a lot longer. Of course, it's equally possible it'll die on the first hit.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 00:40, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== Gender ==
When I use the name rater, despite being genderless, Shedinja will have a gender when we write a new nickname. Wouldn't that be a nice information for trivia? [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] 02:19, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:I have confirmation of this... If someone can determine where the gender comes from this would be great. At the moment I'm picking the same gender as your Nijask. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 03:24, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

== Flail and Reversal ==
I know it's impossible for a Shedinja to have either of these moves without hacking, but supposed one was hacked to have either of these moves... would it have 20 Power because it's at max HP, or would it have 200 power because it only has 1 HP? --[[User:Derian|Derian]] 16:36, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
:That's probably the reason why it's impossible. [[User:Valorum27|Valorum27]] 00:04, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

== Edit request ==

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:<nowiki>|heartgolddex={{tt|ハネを　うごかさずに　とびまわる。からだの　なかは　からっぽで　いきを　しない　ふしぎな　ポケモン。|It flies around without moving its wings. A strange Pokémon that doesn't breathe and has an empty body.}}</nowiki>
♥ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:54, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Small edit requests. First, can you make a ==Pokedex entries== thing over the anime Pokedex entries, and second, can you put a comma in between body and giving? Please and thank you. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 17:27, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

== Breeding generation 4 ==

I've managed to teach my nincada/ shedinja toxic by breeding from a dustox in emerald. if someone wants to verify this works of generation 4 games, too and add it to the page it'd be nice.
:Nincada can learn Toxic by TM. TM moves known by the father are passed down to the egg if the egg's species is capable of learning the TM, regardless of whether the father learned it by TM or not. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:16, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

==HP Up==
What about with an HP Up?--[[User:Dratini Egg|Dratini Egg]] 20:18, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:It's HP is ''always'' 1, regardless of IV and EVs. HP Ups just add EVs, which are completely ignored for Shedinja's HP. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:43, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

== Shinyness ==

If this is already in the article, i must not have noticed, but...

-Will a shiny Nincada always produce a shiny Shedinja when it evolves?
-If the Nincada is not shiny, is there a chance the Shedinja will be anyway? [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 05:27, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:To answer your first question, yes. A shiny Nincada will produce a shiny Shedinja. It also answers your second question. No. A normal Nincada will never make a shiny Shedinja. Because of identical values and such. I'm not good with that stuff. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:22, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. It may seem kind of obvious, but i was just checking, because if it were different, it might have been trivia worthy. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 05:27, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

== Gen IV Poison? ==

Is Shedinja really immune to Poison damage in Gen IV? [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 18:04, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, due to its ability. Why? [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:05, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::I think he means Poison status condition. I often use Shedinja and it can be poisoned.--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|でんのう]] ☢ [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|'''Z'''えんし]] 18:36, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't mean immune to being Poisoned, I mean immune to taking damage after being Poisoned. I was curious because it seems kind of weird for it to be immune to Poison damage without being immune to any other non-super-effective damage. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 19:20, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:Actually, Poison hasn't been super effective to Bug since Gen I. And furthermore, Shedinja's Ghost type would made it '''resist''' Poison.--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|でんのう]] ☢ [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|'''Z'''えんし]] 19:27, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
::{{a|Wonder Guard}} will only protect Shedinja from direct damage. [[Status ailment]]s (like {{status|Poison}}) and [[weather conditions]] will still affect it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:35, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

== Halo ==

Is it me, or in gen III's back sprite, the gap is at the front, and in the gen IV back sprite, the gap is at the back? Shouldn't this belong in the trivia? [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 20:51, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Gigalith (Pokémon)

2010-08-15T18:20:45Z

FrozenStrategy:

{{forums notice|March 31, 2011}}

==Drafty==
Anybody that has more info or can help improve this draft article,You can feel free to edit.But only if there`s more info or the Offical art for this Pokemon.[[User Talk:LucarioWolf|'''Lucario''']][[User:LucarioWolf|'''Wolf''']] 16:15, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
:Well done. I select this to be mainspaced when we have significant data. Like. You know. Its types. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:10, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
::Oh look. There's the types. Now to get the image in and things will be gold. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:13, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

== Name Origin ==

I was thinking maybe its name is a combination of ギガス ''Gigas'', a Greek word meaning "giant", originally used to describe the race of {{wp|Gigantes}} in Greek mythology, and ガイア ''Gaia'', the primal Greek titan personifying the {{wp|Gaia|Earth}}. [[User:KurowaSan|KurowaSan]] 10:41, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

The Japanes word Gaiatsu means external presure this is more than likely wher the name comes from. [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 01:27, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

:...I think it's more or less a combination of the two. :/ It does have Giga in it, not Gaia. [[User:Rai Marshall|Rai Marshall]] 01:56, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

::I didn't say it wasn't a combination of the two, because it probably is. Also the "Gaia" is right after the first two letters (Gi), thats how I noticed it. If it hasn't been added yet it probably should. [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 02:36, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

:::Sereusly you guys can correct the eye color in the physiology but wont add the new information on the origin of the things name? I had mentiond the word Gaiatsu (Japanese word for external pressure) a week ago, why isn't it up yet? [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 18:41, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

== Picture ==

Is it just me or do we need a new picture? The one we currently have is blank.{{unsigned|AeOHai}}
:It's just you. The picture is there, but it is low quality (not our fault, that is all that has been released). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:05, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

== Physiology ==

Now that we have a clearer picture, could someone correct my previous statement of brown eyes to "red eyes with yellow corneas"? [[User:Steph|Steph]] 17:18, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

== Potential Trivia ==
"Though is is called a 'High Pressure Pokémon', it is unable to have the ability Pressure." <--- That okay to add? [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 18:20, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Experience-affecting item

2010-08-10T17:39:35Z

FrozenStrategy:

== Does the Exp Share gives the same amount of EVs or is it shared? ==
'''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 02:25, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
:Shared. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:28, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
::Same as switching does. Both Pokémon get the same effort points. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:33, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Does that mean that both Pokemon get the full amount of EV? Like, say I fought a Golduck--would both Pokemon get the 2 Sp. Attack EVs, or would each only get 1? [[User:HerbieHero|HerbieHero]] 19:15, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

== Daycare ==

As a pokemon recieves experience at around 1exp per step, would using an exp share make it 1.5 which rounds to 2?---Just Asking---[[User:Mattrules161|Mattrules161]] 10:16, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:I don't think exp share has any uses outside of battle, and since its in the daycare there is no other Pokémon to share exp with. So i dont think you would earn double exp by giving a pokémon a n expshare in the daycare ---> [[User:223david|<big>'''223'''</big>]][[User talk:223david|<big>'''david'''</big>]] 13:57, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
::A poke can't share experience with itself, either. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 14:04, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Exp. Share, Pokérus, and EV gain ==
I have a Milotic infected with the Pokérus, and holding the Exp. Share. It is the only Pokémon in my party, and I use it to beat Fisherman Andrew (who has 6 Magikarps). Magikarps normally give 1 EV to Speed each. How many EVs does my Milotic receive in this case, and how is this amount calculated?

I ask this because I am uncertain whether the Exp. Share doubles EVs like it doubles Exp when it is held by the sole combatant in the party. This makes it hard for me to track EVs, as I don't know if I'm getting 24 EVs (1 EV × 2 from Exp. Share × 2 from Pokérus × 6 Magikarps) or 12 EVs (no effect from Exp. Share). [[User:Fyda|Fyda]] 23:10, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
:It doesn't double experience when held by the only one who's sent out in battle. Both halves of the experience go to the same Pokémon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:04, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

== Lucky Egg ==
Does the effect of the Lucky Egg stack with trading? So a traded Pokémon recieves boosted....boosted EXP? Or does it have no effect? [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 17:39, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Pokéwalker

2010-08-08T22:35:16Z

FrozenStrategy: /* Friendship */

==Area Pokemon==
Is there going to be a section on what Pokemon can be found in the different areas? -Soprano23
:Look... at the area pages? The info is all there, it's on individual pages instead of on one big page. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 22:59, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry, just saw that! -Soprano23

==Name==
I don't think it is called the PokéWalker, I think it is just called the PokéWalk. Could we possibly get a better picture too? The current one is very blurry. {{unsigned|MasterKenobi}}
:No, it's PokéWalker, I saw the Pokémon Sunday episode. Where'd you get "PokéWalk" from? [[User:Adamant|Adamant]] 16:03, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
::Nevermind, it was the name that Serebii was calling it but now he has it right. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 15:52, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== PokéWalker and DS compatibility? ==

I'm wondering if the PokéWalker is truly compatible with the Nintendo DS, and DS Lite. Does anyone know if it will be DSi exclusive? On the wiki page it says this:
"The PokéWalker is only compatible with Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver using a Nintendo DS, Nintendo DS Lite, or a Nintendo DSi system. "
Is it true? I really hope so. --[[User:Will.kaufhold|form]] 06:14, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:HGSS, is compatable with ''all'' DS's so therefore so dose the PokéWalker. It will not be only DSi. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 06:20, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
::'''すごい! ありがとう!''' --[[User:Will.kaufhold|'''form''']] 13:17, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
==Locations==
Should we make the pages of all the locations of the PokéWalker now. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 02:00, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
:Do you have info on them other than them being there in the pedometer and the Edge being unlocked by a Jirachi? [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 02:04, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

==PokéRadar==
I was wondering why the addition of details on chaining was removed from the page? I have checked the history, and there was no reason. I have tried and tested the method for a long time now, and it has proven to be accurate. {{Unsigned|Ryu Shoji}}
:Um, this is PokéWalker, not Radar article. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 16:11, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

- But the 'PokeRadar' is the name of the part of the PokéWalker that is used to encounter wild Pokémon, which has it's own method of chaining. [[User:Ryu Shoji|Ryu Shoji]] 19:28, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

:: And RyuShoji was talking about the PokéRadar function on the Pokéwalker itself. Much like some of the games have PokéRadar, so does the PokéWalker. That's what Ryu was saying! Maybe you should check the edit logs first, Solar Dragon, before assuming what the removed piece of text was? [[User:ASecondOpinion1501|ASecondOpinion1501]] 06:38, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
::: Edity bit: I have just noticed that the PokéRadar section hasn't been removed, just moved to a different section of the page. See [[Pok%C3%A9Walker#Gameplay]] [[User:ASecondOpinion1501|ASecondOpinion1501]] 06:43, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

== EXP etc ==
No info on how much exp you get from walking? I've also heard things such as how a Pokémon can't grow more then one level, and that if they miss moves that they would learn from leveling up if they level up on the PokéWalker. If this stuff is true it should also be mentioned.
Also stuff like what kind of battery it uses, etc. And what are the 'advantaged types' mentioned in the articles of the areas? Are these Pokémon types that deal more then 1 damage with an attack versus a wild Pokémon? [[User:Derian|[[Derian]]]] 19:32, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
:Exp is 1 per step and only 1 level per walk as you said. If anyone wants to add this, the battery is just a watch battery (CR2032) and if it's important, the official website's PokeWalker FAQ estimates a 4 month battery lifetime. Whe don't really know what the advantaged types do yet. From my experience, they seem to have an affect on the rarity of itemfinder items at the very least. It appears that the step requirements will be (partially?) ignored sometimes as well if an advantaged type Pokemon is walking. They don't seem to affect battles or anything like that. Hopefully the Kanto guide goes into more details about what they do. I'm thinking we'll have the complete lists of all advantage types by around 10/29 when the Kanto guide comes out. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 23:38, 21 October 2009 (UTC))

:I've found that the pokemon achieves 1 level upon being returned to the Gameboy, no matter how many steps are taken. I'd kept a low-level pokemon in there for quite awhile and amassed tens of thousands of steps, yet only went up 1 level. Likewise, I've had some take far less steps than xp needed to level & still gained a level. I got my level 10 Magikarp up to level 19 very quickly using the PokeWalker, and the xp needed to level up was the same needed when first deposited. I only had to earn a couple hundred xp to evolve into a Gyarados rather than a few thousand. [[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 20:37, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

== Memory ==

NGamer thought of this: does the Pokéwalker have flash memory? Or does your pokémon disappear if the batteries run out/are removed? I'd of thought this is pretty important. [[User:Thermorules123|Thermorules123]] 16:51, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:Your Pokémon will not disappear and in some cases steps and watts won't either, you could loose somewhere around an hour of progress by taking the batteries out so they recommend sending everything back to the DS before changing the batteries. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 16:54, 1 November 2009 (UTC))

:Left without a battery long enough, the Pokewalker will reset steps and watts to zero. I discovered this the hard way. :( But at least I didn't lose any pokemon or items. I don't know how long it takes to wipe the numbers, but it went 8 hours without a battery. --[[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 02:16, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

== Course Unlocks ==

When a course is unlocked, is it unlocked on the PokeWalker or on the DS cartridge? I had Yellow Forest unlocked on my copy of SoulSilver, but the card somehow became corrupt around the time the Wi-Fi promotion ended. I should be getting a replacement card in a few days but wonder if I'll still have access to Yellow Forest or if I should just keep my pokemon there until I get at least one Pikachu with Fly, just in case I can't go back. {{unsigned|MarkoOhNo}}
:The unlocked courses are in with your save file, so unfortunately if your save file becomes corrupt (or you start a new game) and lose the old save file, all the unlocked courses get lost as well. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 22:23, 13 November 2009 (UTC))
:That stinks. :( Well, guess I'll just have to keep Togepi in Yellow Forest indefinitely & only transfer the loot. At least until I'm able to unlock it for my English versions. It would be cool if transferring things to the game from a PokeWalker which is currently set to Yellow Forest would unlock it on that card too. That would be a great way to spread the unlock.[[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 19:15, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

==Required Steps Question==
On each of the course pages, there's a listed amount of steps you have to take before you can encounter a Pokemon/find an item. My question is: Are these Pokemon unlocked "Forever", or only once per Day, or only while that particular Pokemon is in the PokeWalker, or anything else?--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 17:46, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
:Once per day, everyday at midnight the step count resets itself and you will need to rebuild your steps back up to meet that certain Pokémon or find that certain item. I have also heard reports that if you are using the PokéRadar and it hits midnight it will force you out from using it (that does not mean if you are already in a battle, that means if you are in the process of searching for a Pokémon) ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 02:10, 19 November 2009 (UTC))

== W -> w? ==

Now that the {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}} page is updated with English box art, should we go ahead and start changing the name of the PokéWalker from PokéWalker to Pokéwalker based on what is written on the boxes? I don't mind doing the changes, but I want to make sure that it's okay before I attempt it :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 11:44, 12 December 2009 (UTC))
:Maybe it's better to wait for official confirmation from Pokemon.com or Nintendo. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 11:53, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
::Okay, that sounds good, that's what I was planning on in the first place, but when I saw that page got updated regardless I figured we might just as well go for it :p It can't be long until they eventually update anyways, so you're right I guess we should just wait. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 11:56, 12 December 2009 (UTC))
:::I'd say we wait until HGSS itself comes out. Never know if the boxart could change, even slightly, before release. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:54, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Okay, they've finally confirmed it as 'w' in their press release here -> [http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=21788 Nintendo pressroom]. So should we start the change now? [[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 15:34, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

== Catch rates ==

What's the chance of a Poké Ball working in the PokéWalker? Does it use each one's individual in-game catch rate, or is it determined another way? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 11:15, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

== Man, I'm always full of questions... ==
Before me, anwser Missingno. master before me. But my question is, can the Pokéwalker connect with D/P? I really want to know. -[[User:?????|Question Marx]]
:No. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 01:25, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the info! - [[User:?????|Question Marx]]

== I have something to add, but I have no idea where to put it... ==

I'm not really fluent in Japanese (I just can read it and I know a few words), so I'll just say what happens based on the picture. Sometimes, if you walk for a while the screen is blank, a happy face or music note appears above the landscape part and if you press the middle button, it says something and you get either 10 or 20 free watts. If it's a straight face, nothing will happen. Can someone add that, please? And if you can, try it and translate the text that it says. Thanks. [[User:Chuck67322|Chuck67322]] 19:08, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
:I think that would be a good thing to add, however I'm not fully sure how it all works. When I can dedicate more time to it, I'll look into it a little bit more so that we can add that, but the guides don't detail anything and I know that they are not limited to the certain amount of watts (they will find items too) ... if no one has added it, in about two weeks I can dedicate some time to filling a section like that in :) ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 10:45, 30 December 2009 (UTC))
::Oh, OK, thanks.
::Edit: I just found out that there's a heart too that gives you 50 watts [[User:Chuck67322|Chuck67322]] 19:38, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
:I'm curious as to if the step count is really accurate. It would be a worthwhile investment to put another pedometer next to the Pokewalker and compare the step counts, for both walking and running.[[User:Rcnrcn927|Rcnrcn927]] 02:19, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

== Resetting PokéWalker ==

Is there a way to reset the PokéWalker...? (Or am I kinda screwed?) I had a Pokémon stored on there when my cartridge's save file became corrupt. I exchanged the cartridge for a new one, but now I can't seem to use the PokéWalker. I can't transfer the Pokémon to another save file, according to what I've read, and I can't transfer another pokemon onto there. Taking out the battery for awhile didn't erase anything.... So now what? Toss the PokéWalker?? :P --[[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 03:53, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
:You have to press Down + X + L and then connect with your Pokewalker. -- on another note, should those sequence of buttons be mentioned somewhere in the article? The other is Up + Select + R which brings back a Pokemon if the Pokewalker gets lost. I think it might be helpful information to add, but I'm not sure :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 07:36, 7 January 2010 (UTC))
::By all means, find a place. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:43, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

== move ==

Should this be moved as Pokémon.com uses Pokéwalker? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 02:07, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
:I believe the reply seen elsewhere was "wait until game launch; packaging can change." And that came from TTE. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:36, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, but that was for the packaging :/ They now have it announced on the official website as a lowercase w... and that was said back when the only thing we had to go on was an unconfirmed picture of the box art :p Shouldn't we consider doing it now that the official website says it? [[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 09:30, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Hmm... on top of that we should probably rename the instances of "Itemfinder" to "Dowsing Machine" as they have in their description on the website... [[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 10:15, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
::::I think we should just put Dowsing Machine as alternative text. Also, [http://www.pokemon.com/us/news/vg_hgss_news_walker-2010-01-06/ this is the source I forgot to provide]. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 21:38, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

== item ==

http://pokewiki.de/images/d/d8/Course_Map_Icon.png this is a icon of a [[:de:Basisitems_(Gen._4)#Course_Map|Course Map]] for HGSS, its a basic item, but this wiki has no infos --[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]] 08:46, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
:Well.. not really. You don't have a course map in-game in your bag, that's just the sprite used on the wonder card. As far as I can tell it's just the Town Map sprite from DPPt, but there might be some small pixel differences I can't tell by just looking at it. Though I do agree that there should be some info on the course maps on the page (like calling them 'courses' instead of 'areas')... ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 21:43, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
::Honestly, I think we should wait on changing it to 'course' :/ Even though that's what they're called in the Japanese versions there is a good chance that they're going to come out being 'routes' in the English versions >_<... Though I agree that area was not a fitting name for them either :/ More than the icon provided above, I would like to see the course display icons added into the articles somehow if we could make that work... The problem is just getting the pictures to do it and then where to place them... [[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 02:34, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
:::I too support waiting on the translations. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:22, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

== Pokewalker Power ==

How is the Pokewalker Powered?Is it powered on Some kind of battery, do you charge the Pokewalker, or what? {{unsigned|Brock*PWN*}}
:Watch battery. Just wait until you get yours. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:21, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
:Stock up on CR2032 3V watch batteries. Pokewalker eats through one in just a few months. The one I got in September with the Japanese SoulSilver just died this morning. I gotta stop by the store sometime later and pick some up. I hope they don't cost much.... [[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 17:45, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
:Update: I got 2 batteries for $7 at the local pharmacy. So they aren't a LOT... but they aren't cheap... depending on how much you have I guess. :P --[[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 02:20, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

== Earning Watts at a Certain Rate? ==

How many steps are required to Recieve a Single Watt? I Think it was 15-20 steps on the Pokemon Pikachu 2, but is that still the same on the Pokewalker?
[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 22:49, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
:20 steps = 1 watt. I didn't realize that wasn't in the article, now to find a place for it :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 03:30, 16 February 2010 (UTC))

== Temperature? ==

Does anyone know what's the highest and lowest temperature this device can survive in degrees Fahrenheit? I don't want to walk it around in the bitter winter here in the midwest...[[User:PikachuColoredPichu|PikachuColoredPichu]] 02:18, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
:It's '''''fine'''''. I live in Chicago. I walk around with it all the time. It's not gonna FREEZE. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:20, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
::I'm just trying to be careful...I would LOVE to walk with Arceus, but...wait, does the Arceus get removed from my game card and into the device, or does it make some sort of copy like if you transferred your Chao in Sonic Adventure's games on GBA? Because if something bad happens to my walker, I may never see it again...[[User:PikachuColoredPichu|PikachuColoredPichu]] 02:26, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
::And in case anyone cares, I don't have one yet, waiting for the English release. I can't read Japanese at all, so...[[User:PikachuColoredPichu|PikachuColoredPichu]] 02:32, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
:::It gets ''transferred'' over to your 'walker. Not copied. In other words, yes, it gets removed from your game card. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 02:34, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
::::As far as losing your 'walker goes... [[#Resetting PokéWalker|see this]]. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 02:36, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Well, that helps...sorta...I'll try to take care of it when I get the game next month. [[User:PikachuColoredPichu|PikachuColoredPichu]] 02:39, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Just thought I should mention this, it sort of does just make a copy of it. The best way to explain it is that it will take the Pokemon's information and save it within the game as if it's still there, but you won't be able to still see it within the game anymore. That is why in the event that your Pokewalker breaks, the Pokemon can be restored to the exact way you sent it without you losing any information on it. In other words, you can't "lose your Pokemon" by sending it to the Pokewalker unless you damage the game itself :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 05:57, 18 February 2010 (UTC))

== Two Seperate Questions... !/beeping? ==

So two things came into my head... on the page, it says that using the pokeradar can result in !, for Group C pokemon. but at the same time, ! is for Group C or B pokemon... shouldn't there only be one ! section, as both are the same? and question number two: does the pokewalker beep at all, and if it does can it be put to silent? many of my friends and I plan to bring these with us to school (free points for walking in the hallways =D) but dont want them taken away if they beep in class... thanks =D [[User:DeathByAnArrow |DeathBy]][[User_Talk:DeathByAnArrow |AnArrow]] 21:33, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
:There are three volume settings on the Pokewalker: loud, quiet, and silent. However, the 'walker does ''not'' beep for attention or anything like Tamagotchis and similar virtual pets would. They only beep when you press the buttons and play around with it - which you should not be going in class anyway. ;) [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 22:12, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
::I loved watching my teachers desperately trying to find the source of the beeping back when I had Tamagotchis! :D [[User:Pokelova|''ポケモン恋人'']][[User talk:Pokelova|''(チャット)'']][[Special:Contributions/Pokelova|''(貢献)'']] 02:39, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Keep the conversation Pedia related. Anything else about what you used to do with your Tama's goes to the forums. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:03, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
::::To answer your other question, the reason that the page lists !, !, !!, !!! is because that is the sequence that the Pokewalker dowsing machine uses. At first you will get one !, which will always be a group C Pokemon. If you get past that first !, then another ! will appear which can either be a group C or group B Pokemon. If you get past that, then you get a !! which will be either a group B or group A Pokemon. Finally, if you get past all of those you will get a !!! which will be a group A Pokemon only. Technically it should say something like ! (first) and ! (second), but I didn't want it to get too wordy... I hope that made sense, but there is a method to my madness ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 04:20, 22 February 2010 (UTC))
:::::Actually, both of those answers were really clear and helpful =D thanks a lot ^^ [[User:DeathByAnArrow |DeathBy]][[User_Talk:DeathByAnArrow |AnArrow]] 22:52, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
What do you mean by getting Past a wild pokewalker pokemon? do you have to defeat it, catch it, or what?[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 12:37, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
:When you start the pokeradar you will always get a '!' above one of the patches of grass. If you click on that patch, then there is a chance either a Pokemon will or will not come out of it... if a Pokemon does not come out of it, then the '!' will disappear and a few seconds later another '!' will appear... this process continues until either you find a Pokemon or it runs away (you take too much time to click on the patch). Once you click on a '!!!' patch it will always have a Pokemon in it. And as said above, the sequence it will always goes in is: ! -> ! -> !! -> !!!. I hope that helped... it's really one of those things that's easiest to understand once you've done it a few times. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 12:49, 24 February 2010 (UTC))

== Watts ==

Shouldn't we make make an Article on Watts?[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 16:43, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

== nicknames? ==

Can the pokemon caught in the pokewalker be given nicknames?[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 18:13, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
:If you bring them to either of the two [[Name Rater|Name Raters]] then they can be. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 18:17, 25 February 2010 (UTC))

== losing courses? ==

I Heard that when the Pokewalker Battery dies out, you lose all your watts and steps, but not your Pokemon. What about the Pokewalker Courses themselves?[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 13:58, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:They're stored in your save file so the only way to lose those is to restart the game ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 14:01, 7 March 2010 (UTC))
What i mean is when like you lose all your watts, and then the new, lesser amount of watts is transferred over to the games, does the new, lesser amount of watts take away the courses that had been unlocked by getting those watts that are now gone?[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 13:01, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::I think what Yamino means is that the courses you unlock are saved on the DS game, rather then the pokewalker. So they wouldn't be lost, unless you lost the game. The watts are stored on the pokewalker, not the game. You keep a 'backup' of the Pokémon in the game that you can restore if the pokewalker battery dies, and the same is probably true with the courses (in a sense). watts just aren't saved in the game. But I mean I don't have it yet so that's just my guess. Also I'm guessing the watts required to unlock a course is the 'total watts ever obtained' not the current watts you have, so that would presumably be stored in the game? --[[User:Derian|Derian]] 13:09, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
thank you, that explains a lot![[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 23:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:Just as a minor clarification, ''everything'' regarding watts/steps/routes for the Pokewalker is stored in the DS except for the watts that are on the Pokewalker itself that have yet to be transferred. Every time you connect the Pokewalker to the game, all watts you had will disappear from the Pokewalker (you'll go back to 0) and be transferred over to the games where they are stored and can't ever be brought back to the Pokewalker again. This is how routes get unlocked. Not by how many watts are on the Pokewalker itself at one time, but how many watts you have sent back to the game. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 07:18, 12 March 2010 (UTC))

== How many Watts to unlock routes ==

To unlock the Resort Area and the Quiet Cave, would one need 180,000 watts, or 100,000 watts? Before I was thinking 180,000 watts, but now that I know that it takes 20 steps to get a watt, I'm more inclined to believe 100,000. [[User:Jecowa|Jecowa]] 05:23, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:...What? Watts are transferred over to the DS and stored there, and courses are unlocked as the watts accumulate. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 05:39, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

== The Pursuit of Happiness ==

Carrying a pokemon in the Pokewalker increases its [[happiness]], however I've seen nothing anywhere which indicates the rate at which it increases. Do events increase happiness (catching a pokemon, finding an item, interacting with other Pokewalkers, etc) or do only steps matter in this effect? How much happiness do you get per how many steps? I'm thinking it's not comparable to steps taken in-game. I've been carrying my Eevee in the Pokewalker for at least two days and walked roughly 10,000 steps/day, but still get the "It's cute" message from the rater in Goldenrod City. (On the other hand, it comes across as VERY happy when I interact with it and based on what I've read in the summary reports after returning from a stroll.) Now that I do the math, though... 10000/256 steps is about +40 happiness.... Two days of this with no other increasing events would make the happiness level 150... still pretty close to the "It's cute" range.... Perhaps it IS comparable to the steps taken in-game happiness increasing event? But... on the other hand... it's carrying a Soothe Bell.... So it seems like that SHOULD make it 230.... Hmm.... If anyone has an answer for these questions, it would really help put my mind at ease. :)[[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 08:15, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
:I guess carried items don't work in the Pokewalker, then. Seeing the gadget doesn't even show which item the Pokemon is carrying, that must be case. -- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]] ([[User talk:Pro-mole|Talk here]]) 01:17, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

== Interesting Fact? ==
With the pokéwalker, 20 steps = 1 watt. But did you know that it takes approximately 20 steps (on average) to burn one calorie as well? [http://www.pittcountync.gov/depts/planning/cdwalk/pages/info.shtml] I don't know if this counts as an interesting fact or not. If not, then someone can just delete it. I asked TTEchidna while editing for us normal folk was unavailable, but that was said was "hm" and "hmmm" so...--[[User:Lamb|Lamb]]''([[User talk:Lamb|talk]])'' 11:58, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

== Version exclusivity? ==

So I'm using the Pokeradar at Beautiful Beach, and I notice something. I have never seen a single Staryu, Poliwag, or Wooper. Coincidentally (or is it?) that is exactly one 'mon from each rarity group. So I'm wondering, is this a series of increasingly unlikely coincidences, or are those three 'mons SoulSilver exclusives (conversely making Sunkern, Slowpoke, and Psyduck HeartGold exclusive)? And if the 'mons available on Pokewalker routes are version-specific, shouldn't there be some kind of mention of that? [[User:Billybobfred|Billybobfred]] 13:54, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
:Nope, they're not exclusive. You have a certain (maybe 50-50?) chance to get one of either group when you send your Pokemon to the Pokewalker. Take the Pokemon out and send it again and the available Pokemon may change. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 14:06, 30 March 2010 (UTC))
:Have you been returning your pokemon from its stroll or just dropping off the pokemon, items & watts as gifts? The pokemon you can encounter only change when you return your pokemon and begin a new stroll. If you HAVE been dropping off the strolling pokemon, then I'd have to say it's just a case of bizarre coincidences... coincidenci? lol Cause I've found all of the above at Beautiful Beach using the same game. [[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 00:54, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
:should this be put in the article? i 'walked' 25000 steps and wasted loads of watts, getting really frustrated that all i saw were psyduck :( [[User:Sorrowless|Sorrowless]] 19:30, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

== Three Slots? ==

Anyone knows why there are three slots when you're putting your Pokemon in the Pokewalker? -- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]] ([[User talk:Pro-mole|Talk here]]) 13:12, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
:It's probably because that layout is shared by both the Pokewalker and Pokethlon so they made it available up to 3 but 2 slots just get blocked out when connecting to the Pokewalker. You can never use the two blocked out slots when using the Pokewalker though :/ ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 13:21, 31 March 2010 (UTC))

== Possible flaw ==
Back on the day of the release, when I put Pidgey into the Pokewalker, it didn't learn {{m|Sand-Attack}} even when it reached Level 5. But yesterday when I trained a new Pidgey without the Pokéwalker it did learn the attack. Although I don't have enough direct evidence yet to submit, I think the only disadvantage to using the Pokéwalker is the inability to learn new moves. Did anyone else encounter this kind of problem? -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 15:56, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, this is a thing. A guide over on GameFAQs mentions it. [[User:Billybobfred|billybobfred]] [[User_talk:Billybobfred|It's all just wild mass guessing anyway.]] 19:36, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
::That's a very important thing, in fact. Now I have a Weedle that was being leveled solely to learn Bug Bite, but it won't be able anymore... thank goodness there are move tutors! Anyway, do they mention it in the booklet? I haven't seen it... -- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]] ([[User talk:Pro-mole|Talk here]]) 00:31, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

So, a related question: are these moves re-learnable through a Move Relearner?(or whatever is the correct name... I'm a bit lazy too look it up now) I'm figuring the game system recognizes your Pokemon should have learned that move in a previous level, right? {{unsigned|Pro-mole}}

Yes, since the [[Move relearner]] works with anything in the level up move set for that particular Pokemon, unless if Weedle were to evolve which alters the moveset. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 04:35, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== Losing Steps ==

This keeps happening to me and I'm wondering if I'm alone in this - sometimes, usually when it is inactive for a while, my walker resets the step counter to one but I retain my volts from the steps I had. Has anyone else had this problem? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 21:37, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

:The Walker resets the step counter every midnight. If this is happening during the day, though... not the case here. -- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]] ([[User talk:Pro-mole|Talk here]]) 00:18, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

::Ah, that's probably it, missed that bit on the page. Thanks. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 00:38, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== "Areas" ==

Officially, they're referred to as "Routes," with a capital "R," so move them again?? [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 07:33, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:I think so. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:29, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

== Required watts are different for me ==

This is really weird. It's only taken me 1000 watts to unlock Blue Lake and again only 1000 to unlock Town Outskirts. Am I special? Or is there a more legitimate explanation? O-O--[[User:Quilford|Quilford]] 12:43, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
:I'm afraid to ask this... but you ''do'' mean 1000 watts that are stored in the game and not 1000 on the Pokewalker itself or 1000 sent back at one time, right? ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 13:30, 2 April 2010 (UTC))
::I do mean 1000 watts that are stored in the game. --[[User:Quilford|Quilford]] 21:33, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

== 1 question ==

umm.. well i bought soulsiver when it can out but last friday i lost my dsi with soulsilver in it but i still have the pokewalker... is there any way to connect it to the new soulsilver i got today? [[User:Vkickass|Vkickass]] 17:39, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
:Reset it by going to the Pokéwalker connection screen on the new SoulSilver (Down+X+L), and then just connect it normally. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 17:37, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
what about the new pokewalker i got with the game... will that still work? [[User:Vkickass|Vkickass]] 17:39, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
:Well.. I don't think so. If you sync the old 'walker with the new game, then you shouldn't be able to use two different Pokéwalkers on one game... ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 17:46, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

== 20 steps ≠ 1 watt with advantageous type ==

Bug pokemon are advantageous on Hoenn Field, right? So I decided to use one there and walked around a few steps, and then stopped and checked my steps and watts. I had gotten one watt from seventeen steps.

http://tinypic.com/r/j0bj12/5 - for video proof

at five watts I was on 95 steps, and at ten watts I was on 187 steps. --[[User:Quilford|Quilford]] 22:35, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

:I don't believe you're correct in your assumption. What I think is happening is that the watt generation uses its own 20-step counter that isn't affected by daily resets. You might have walked three steps the previous day, then it reset, then 17 steps the next day, which would have given you a watt without hitting 20 steps in that day. I can say that I always use advantageous types and, though the daily watts may be off by 0-19 steps, I am getting 1 watt per 20 steps.
:Here's a possible explanation of your specific case:
:{|
|watts
|steps
|watt-step counter
|Then you...
|-
|?
|x(% by 20)
|0
|walk 16 steps
|-
|?
|x+16
|16
|sync, daily reset
|-
|0
|0
|16
|walk 4 steps
|-
|1
|4
|0
|walk 13 steps
|-
|'''1'''
|'''17'''
|13
|walk 60
|-
|4
|77
|13
|walk 7 steps
|-
|5
|84
|0
|walk 11 steps
|-
|'''5'''
|'''95'''
|11
|walk 80 steps
|-
|9
|175
|11
|walk 9 steps
|-
|10
|184
|0
|walk 3 steps
|-
|'''10'''
|'''187'''
|3
|you post here
|}
:If your measurements were larger and showed a difference of 20 or more steps in the watt calculation, then you'd be onto something. - [[User:Exawatt|Exawatt]] 19:22, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

== You won't beleive this/Pokérus ==

Huge dicovery! I found a Pikachu in Yellow forest and caught it. (well, I caught three, but) and transferring it to SoulSilver shockingly reveiled it had Pokérus. Walking around with it had also infected my togepi which I'd placed in there. Please can someone verify that this WASN'T an Action Replay Code going crazy and that Pokémon can really have Pokérus on the Walker? Cheers. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 14:00, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:That's 'cause your Pikachu is in the top percentage of Pikachu! --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:03, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::LOL Joey reference. But I'm serious. (PS Joey Sucks) [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 14:09, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::: well maybe Pokéwalker "wild pokémon" are just like regular wild pokémon and have the same chance of carrying the pokérus or being shiny? That would make sense. Would just be incredibly rare! So kudos to you, man. --[[User:Derian|Derian]] 14:17, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Thanks. Just checking. Perhaps we could add somewhere that "Pokérus and Shinyness can still appear on Pokéwalker Pokémon, but does not appear until transferred to the Gen IV games" or something. Because it is a primative system, and people might think it won't work. I don't know. But YAY! Pokérus Ponyta! {{unsigned|SpecialK}}
:I think I can answer this. Pokérus is based on the Pokémon's Personality Values as well as the Original Trainer's ID (at least I think that's what I've heard). So the Pokérus is a lucky break for you-- that same Pikachu would not have Pokérus for everyone, but every one of that particular Pikachu should (I believe) have Pokérus for you. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:33, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::Last answer sounds most likely- I think all that's stored on the 'walker is the data that you caught x Pokémon and found x items- And then when it's transferred over, the game fills in the rest of the data like stats and personality value... at least I'm pretty sure that's when it's generated, the 'walker shouldn't have much data on it besides the player's party/walking Pokemon/items/species of caught Pokemon. Hmm. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 15:35, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::AndyPKMN, does that mean that if he was to catch another of the same kind of Pikachu that it would also have the pokérus?--[[User:Lamb|Lamb]]''([[User talk:Lamb|talk]])'' 01:45, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
::SpecialK, would you try catching that same kind of Pikachu again?--[[User:Lamb|Lamb]]''([[User talk:Lamb|talk]])'' 01:44, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

== pokemon-less random pokemon encounter ==

i want to know how the species of the random pokemon is determined. so far i have only seen pidgeys as random befriending encounters in refreshing field. i walk 7000+ steps everyday. [[User:B33f3r|B33f3r]] 01:28, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
:The group C active Pokemon is chosen. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 01:29, 8 April 2010 (UTC))
::so you could never find anything other than pokemon from group c in this way? what do you mean by 'active' pokemon? {{unsigned|B33f3r}}
:::Active meaning the one that is available. Each group has two Pokemon in it, of which you can only get one during one walk, so it picks the one that is available or "active" ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 04:37, 8 April 2010 (UTC))

== Two Questions Pertaining the PokéRadar ==

1. What exactly are the encounter rates of the pokemon in each group? I'm finding, for example, that it was excessively easy to get Group A mons(specifically, Doduo) in Refreshing Fields, but it's extremely hard to get a special Pikachu in Yellow Forest(as in: didn't get any one during the whole week, walking 10K-12K steps every day). In other words, what exactly does "Very Common", "Common", "Rare" and "Very Rare" mean?

2. Does the speed with which I chose the marked bush influence my catching rate, or am I just deceiving myself thinking if I go more slowly I get "!!" more easily? =P

-- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]] ([[User talk:Pro-mole|Talk here]]) 23:03, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:They correspond to the values that I have pseudo-coded into each of the articles as reference. For example, Refreshing Field is (70, 50), (75, 75), (100, 100) -- (Doduo, Kangaskhan), (Nidoran♀, Nidoran♂), (Pidgey, Sentret). Each of those labels "very Common," "Common," "Rare," "Very Rare" were given ranges and applied based on these numbers in the official guides. The Yellow Forest Pikachu are (2, 3) -- (Flying, Surfing), so comparing (70, 50) with (2, 3), you can probably see why they are harder to find.

I couldn't answer the second question :s... I have no idea lol ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 01:51, 10 April 2010 (UTC))
::Where did you get these numbers? What do they actually mean? Because when you get '''!!!''' you are 100% guaranteed to get the group A active Pokémon. How do they interact when there are two groups available. i.e. when a battle activates with "'''!!'''". Say for example that Doduo was the active Pokémon: Is the probability (70%:30%,Doduo:Nidoran) or (25%:75%,Doduo:Nidoran)? Sorry to bombard you but I am kind of up several contradictory logical creeks with no means of propulsion. Thanks in Advance.--[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 02:22, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:::From what seemed to be a rip of Pokewalker data taken when the games first came out in Japan that fully coincided with the Official Guides. I do not know when or how it randoms and works with the individual patches which is the reason I have not added them into the articles myself and the person who ripped it said they didn't know either. My best guess is as follows:

:::Let's say we have Doduo, Nidoran (regardless of gender because they are the same) and Pidgey (it doesn't matter). We would have (70, 75, 100)... when you look at how the system works, Pidgey has a 100% rate of showing up. This is so that you can't use the Pokeradar and not get any Pokemon at all. When the steps are too little for anyone in the B group to show up, C has it's full 100% only, meaning everything is C and nothing is B or A. When group B becomes available step-wise, in this case it has a 75%, so it will see if it's a hit or miss on group B. If it turns out to be a miss, then it will move onto group C with a 100% rate and pick group C. If it hits on group B, then you'll get group B. Technically, this lowers the chances to (B|75%:C|25%). The same works when A is available step-wise. Doduo will be looked at with it's 70%, if it's a miss, then it will random for group B which in this case is 75%, if that's a miss, then it will random for group C which is 100%, so you'll get a C. Effectively, this lowers the chances to (A|70:B|22:C|8) as an estimate when Doduo/B/C are chosen. -- Once it's done randoming, it could decide which number of !'s to send the player though based on the result... again... I don't know for sure about the minute mechanics... just those numbers haha... ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 02:54, 10 April 2010 (UTC))

== Running produces less Steps? ==

2 Days ago, I spent 1 hour and 30 minutes covering a considerable distance around and outside my neighborhood by alternating between running and walking. But the final count on my Pokéwalker was between 4500-5000 steps.
Yesterday, I spent only 1 hour covering a shorter distance with just walking and the final count on my Pokéwalker was between 6500-7000 steps.
Is it because I'm producing less steps with more speed? --[[User:Arima|Arima]] 11:01, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:You've hit the nail on the head. When you run, your strides are typically longer than when you walk. Therefore there will be fewer vibrations that the PokéWalker can sense, and less steps will be recorded. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 12:04, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

== Hacking? ==
I was wondering if it is possible to hack the Pokéwalker, you know, like the main series games? It just occurred while I was reading some articles on hacking. --[[User:Spritemaster|Spritemaster]] 14:01, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
:Pretty much ANYTHING is possible to hack. I don't think anyone's really pursued the hacking of the Pokéwalker yet, though. In any case, the game would probably need to be hacked as well before anything hacked could be transferred back, so it's probably not worth the effort. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:45, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
::It would be interesting if someone were to use an IR recording setup to capture and document the communication between the game and the pokewalker. Once we know the language, we can replicate it. Gift 9,999 watts then gift another 9,999 ten seconds later... - [[User:Exawatt|Exawatt]] 19:28, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

== Dowsing Probabilities ==
Others I spoke to--and even myself--originally thought that the leftmost or rightmost grass tufts had better chances (when taking second pick into account), but I did the probabilistic math and it turns out that no matter which tuft you pick, your second pick choice will always give you the same opportunity. If that's not making sense; basically there's no difference in your overall chance of finding an item between ''any'' of the grass tufts. All assuming completely random item placement, of course. I can post the detailed math if anyone's interested. I know it's not really important, but it seems to be a point of confusion among people I've spoken to. Might be worth clearing it up in the argticle.. - [[User:Exawatt|Exawatt]] 19:41, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
:Having worked it out myself, the probability of finding an item for the end most tufts are actually 1/2 compared to 2/3 for the 4 middle tufts. Therefore it is better to take the middle tufts. Sorry this is so unclear. Will post a more detailed argument later.--[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 21:34, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
::I've already done it, it was just on another computer:
::Assuming completely random placement of the item, there is no difference in probability based on the first chosen (i.e. a side vs a middle).
:::Initial pick is easy:
::::P(pick1) = 1/6
:::If first pick fails--these are all P(*|¬pick1):
::::If choosing the side:
::::P(near|side) = 1/5, P(pick2|nearΛside) = 1,
::::P(far|side) = 4/5, P(pick2|farΛside) = 1/4,
::::P(pick2|side) = P(pick2|nearΛside) * P(near|side) + P(pick2|farΛside) * P(far|side)
:::::= (1)(1/5) + (1/4)(4/5) = (1/5) + (1/5) = 2/5
::::If choosing a middle square:
::::P(near|middle) = 2/5, P(pick2|nearΛmiddle) = 1/2,
::::P(far|middle) = 3/5, P(pick2|farΛmiddle) = 1/3,
::::P(pick2|middle) = P(pick2|nearΛmiddle) * P(near|middle) + P(pick2|farΛmiddle) * P(far|middle)
:::::= (2/5)(1/2) + (3/5)(1/3) = (1/5) + (1/5) = 2/5
::::.'. P(pick2|side) = P(pick2|middle).
::::Therefore, probability of finding the item after picking a side square is equal to
::::the probability of finding the item after picking a middle square.
::I've tried to explain it in English but I end up complicating it. Basically the additional knowledge of where the item is doesn't help, since it still has a 1/5 placement. If you get 1/5 and 4/5 of 1/1 and 1/4 chances, it's the same as 2/5 and 3/5 of 1/2 and 1/3. The probabilities sort of "cancel" each other... But like I said I'm terrible at explaining this in English. If there's a serious question about whether the math is right, I can double check it with my probability professor from last semester. If it comes to it I'll see if I can work with him to determine this and the expected return of the entire game. But if nobody cares I won't bother. - [[User:Exawatt|Exawatt]] 06:28, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Sorry, having reworked the problem I agree. Sorry for wasting your time. I think I read down the wrong line of my tree diagram. Would you agree that there is a 50% chance of getting an item on a given game? Given that P(pick1) = 1/6, P(pick1fails)=5/6 And P(pick2)=2/5. P(wingame)=P(pick1)+P(pick1fails)*P(pick2)=1/6+5/6*2/5=3/6=1/2=50%. Hope you can understand this. Thank you for your time and for exposing my wrongness.—[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 01:43, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
::::This was the part where my own mathematical skills broke down. I don't remember the class covering the additional "knowledge" gained after the first pick (i.e. your second pick isn't 1/5 "random"). What math I guessed at came out to total chances around ~48% (which would indicate that even with proper knowledge of the game you have a greater chance of losing), but then I did it again and came up with a much lower chance (~38%), so I know I'm doing something wrong at that point. I have discussed the above part with a math major (and real whiz), and he agrees that the second choice odds aren't affected by the position of the first choice. But... that's all I've been able to prove at this point. I'll shoot an e-mail at my professor and update when (if) he replies. - [[User:Exawatt|Exawatt]] 02:40, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

== Moves ==

This applies to the Move pages but is about the Pokewalker - should we note that some Pokemon caught on the walker know moves they normally wouldn't know naturally? Like Sneasel, it can learn Crush Claw via breeding, but knows it automatically if caught on Icy Mountain Rd. on the walker. I'm gonna check but I'll wager there are other instances of this. There are also instances of Pokemon learning moves earlier than they normally wound - Elekid learns Thunder Punch at Level 28, but the Level 11 Elekid caught in the Suburban Area already know it. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 18:24, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
:[[User:Drake Clawfang/Sandbox|Yeah, take a look]]. Quite a few 'mons know moves when caught on the walker that they normally wouldn't. A note about this can easily be made here, but should we add this data to the separate move pages? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 18:56, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
::It helps to wait for a response when you ask something like that. Also, you're missing the most obvious and desired two: Surfing and Flying Pikachu in Yellow Forest. That's more notable than a Magby with Sunny Day, which it can learn by TM. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 19:31, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
:::I didn't edit any of the move pages, I ''was'' waiting for responses. And yes, I forgot about the Yellow Forest. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 19:33, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
::::In fact, it's not really trivia so much as it is the whole point of the device. Between the unique moves and harder to obtain Pokémon obtainable in it, that's the whole purpose of getting all those Watts.--[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 19:45, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::True. There could (should, actually) be a section detailing what you just said. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:19, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::I agree and disagree. I would recommend asking TTE or one of the other admins first though, just to see what they'd say about it. Either way, it's not trivia, as trivia is something most people wouldn't notice on their own. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 20:26, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Pokéwalker-only moves is definitely something to incorporate into the move articles and also the species articles under "special moves". Like it's done [[Surf_(move)#Special_move_2|here]]. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 00:16, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Ah, didn't know it had already occured on some pages. I guess in that case they just need to be finished. EDIT - note ''all'' the moves in the sandbox, or exclude the ones learned at earlier levels than usual? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 01:58, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::All of them. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:54, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

== Predicting the Items Received from Connecting two Pokéwalkers ==

I can't seem to find any information on the interwebs about people even asking the question about how the Pokéwalkers decide which items you get from connecting them. I asked myself this question and have done a bunch of test connections to see what items are received and now have a working method for predicting/''Choosing'' what items I get.

Now, this only works if no connections of this type have been done since loading the Pokémon into the Pokéwalker, but it takes very little time to trade the Pokémon back to HG/SS and then back to the Pokéwalker.

Here is a link to a forum post I made in the Bulbagarden forums, describing my findings.
http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=58929

I didn't want to edit the main page for the Pokéwalker quite yet since I do only have about 6 documented connections of this type which meet the criteria of neither Pokéwalker having an item from one of these connections. Every one of them has a result that could easily have been predicted by the method I listed on the Bulbagarden forum, though.

I'm hoping someone is willing to test my theory, though, so I can stop feeling like I'm just shouting my findings into the uncaring voids of the interwebs. {{unsigned|QuantumPolagnus}}

::These are interesting findings. I will begin testing it tomorrow. --[[User:Spiritgun|Spiritgun]] 21:46, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

==Pokewalker Pokemon Personality==

Something I noticed regarding the pokemon dropped into the pokewalker. Different pokemon seem to act differently.
Here is an example: If I don't take steps for a while, my Murkrow seems to get bored quickly and when I send it back to the game, it tells me that murkrow might have been born or maybe angry.
My other pokemon don't get angry with me.
Second example: My Onix seems to find items very often. Again, not something most of the pokemon I send in seem to do.

Perhaps the pokewalker takes a bit more information than originally believed.
Maybe certain natures cause certain events to occur more often.

Please add your own experiences with this phenomena, as well as some data on the pokemon: characteristic and nature.
--[[User:Spiritgun|Spiritgun]] 21:46, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

== A group A pokemon can end up following you! ==

I was on yellow forest with no pokemon, one came to me and a caught two group B pikachus and a group A pikachu. When I returned from the stroll I had two surfing ones out of the four I got from that one transfer.[[User:ShoutingRyan|ShoutingRyan]] 01:58, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
:So you're sure that you returned with two group A Pikachu, two group B Pikachu and '''no''' group C Pikachu? ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 02:06, 29 April 2010 (UTC))
::This has happened to me as well. After walking a few hundred steps with the Pokéwalker without any Pokémon in it, an exclamation mark will appear and a message along the lines of "What? [pokémon] decided to follow you!" will appear if you press the middle button. Also, the message when you transfer it back to your game on the DS says "Before you knew it, [Pokémon] joined you! It seems to want to walk with you." I'd like to determine how many steps are required (if any) to get a Pokémon to follow you... ([[User:Tribor|Tribor]] 05:00, 22 May 2010 (UTC))
:::This conversation isn't about whether Pokémon can join you, that is mentioned on the page, the conversation is whether the joining Pokémon can be from group A or B. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:03, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

==Pressing Right when a pokémon appears==
While walking in the Yellow Forest (where else?) and using the Pokéradar, I noticed that if I pressed right several times while the pokémon was appearing, it would not force me to go into the whole battle scene, and I could just leave the battle. I tried counting the number of times, but I couldn't get it to fix on a number before I ran out of watts. Anyone else experience this? --[[User:Lamb|Lamb]]''([[User talk:Lamb|talk]])'' 03:53, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
:I've got that occasionally, but I assumed that the Pikachu (given that I'm on Yellow Forest as well) had run away, and the timing of the button presses had matched the timing for the messages popping up, so it just appeared I had left the battle. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:25, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
::That happens too sometimes, but what I am talking about is as the pokémon appears, before either makes any moves, and before the "attack/evade/catch" option appears.--[[User:Lamb|Lamb]]''([[User talk:Lamb|talk]])'' 00:06, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Exactly. I think that it can happen any time that the wild Pokémon flees. If you push the button at just the right time the attack/catch/evade menu won't yet be visible, but it will register as evade. Then the wild pokémon flees, the animation for which is skipped by pressing any button to leave the battle. If the timing of the presses is just right then no menu will appear, making it seem that the battle has just been left. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:36, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

== Timing using the Poké Radar ==

Well, I thought I'd time how long it takes for a wild pokemon to run away in each of the ! groups. Here are my findings:

! (first) - 5 seconds;
! (second) - 4 seconds;
!! - 2 seconds;
!!! - 1 second;

This is potentially very useful information. Should it be added to the article in a new column in the "!s = what group" table?--[[User:Quilford|Quilford]] 07:14, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

== Running away...? ==

Well, many times I'd press the middle button on the wrong bush... and the Pokémon ran away. This seems to only happen during the second ! and after. This is potentially very useful information. Should it be added to the article?--[[User:Valorum27|Valorum27]] 01:49, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, I noticed that a few days ago, but I didn't see your post; I added it as soon as I discovered it. — [[User:Axxonn|'''Axxonn''']][[User talk:Axxonn|the]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 16:40, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

== Is this true? ==

Multiple Pokéwalkers
It is possible to use one game cartridge for multiple Pokéwalkers, however only one Pokémon is allowed to stroll at one time.
At the Pokéwalker connection screen Press and hold Down, X, and L .
WARNING : Resetting a Pokéwalker may also reset collected watts to zero on the game cartridge used to reset the Pokéwalker. When resetting a Pokéwalker, it is suggested that it is done with a game cartridge that has few or no watts.
After the "Caution!" message, say "Yes" and connect the additional Pokéwalker (Not the original Pokéwalker previously registered with the game), this will reset and register the new Pokéwalker with the game and reset current walk and step counters in-game temporarily.
Send over a Pokémon to the new Pokéwalker and return from stroll.
Either Pokéwalkers can now sync with the game and when the original Pokéwalker is connected for a stroll, the step count and original watt count should be restored. To have a Pokémon on the extra Pokéwalkers, a wild Pokémon from the selected walking route simply needs to "befriend" or join in the walk, this Pokémon and any other additional ones caught can return to the game normally. It is not possible to change routes on any additional Pokéwalker when a Pokémon is currently out on a stroll. The Pokémon that needs to be returned should appear on the top screen. To change routes, all Pokémon need to be returned into the game and then sent back out into either Pokéwalkers with the desired route and returned back into the game. --[[User:Legendhunter32|Legend Hunter]] 01:54, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

== Route Stubs ==

How come most, if not all, of the Pokéwalker Route pages are Stubs? I was going to help the articles but I couldn't really see anything wrong. {{u|Gallevoir}} 09:49 6 June 2010
:Just because I was being stupid when I finished adding all the information I could and never removed the stub notice >.< ... there is only one more thing that I could even think to add (adjust) to each of the route pages and that would be to replace the rarity words with their respective numerical values, which I'm not able to extract that sort of data myself, so someone else is going to have to do it :/ I say we just take the stub note off; they are about as good as they can possibly get :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 12:13, 6 June 2010 (UTC))

== Watts for Connection ==

I haven't done more than two connections a day(not much people I know have pokewalkers...), so I want to ask... how many watts do you get for connecting after getting 10 items? -- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]] ([[User talk:Pro-mole|Talk here]]) 03:43, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
:Some random integer between 1 and 99. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:54, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

== Concern about EVs ==

Minor Concern: A Pokémon can only level up once upon returning from the Pokéwalker and all surplus EXPs are subsequently lost.
*(Status: Confirmed)
Major Concern: A Pokémon's EVs are not taken into account when leveling up upon returning from the Pokéwalker.
*(Status: Pending) --[[User:Arima|Arima]] 08:31, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

:'''I did an experiment''' about the gaining of EVs on the Pokéwalker and here's what I found:

*My Growlithe that I had raised from an egg and only on the Pokéwalker had stats almost equal to the Ponyta that I caught on the Pokéwalker at the same level.
**So I wrote down my Growlithe's stats and put it on the Pokéwalker, raised it a level, took it off, looked at it's stats, and you know what? They had all gone up by one of two points!

Just trying to help. ----[[User:Zewis29|Zewis]] [[User talk:Zewis29|(2]][[Special:Contributions/Zewis29|9)]] 16:55, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

== Friendship ==

I know that a Pokémon gains happiness when leveled up, but does it on the Pokéwalker? I'm very worried about putting my Pichu (that I'm trying to evolve) on the Pokéwalker, because putting in the P.C. lowers its happiness. Please, someone tell me. ----[[User:Zewis29|Zewis]] [[User talk:Zewis29|(2]][[Special:Contributions/Zewis29|9)]] 17:00, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
:As far as I know, putting something in the PC does '''NOT''' lower happiness. Common misconception, I hate myths... [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 22:35, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Victini (Pokémon)

2010-08-03T14:37:27Z

FrozenStrategy: /* Type effectiveness */ If we know the types...

{{Unknown Pokémon}}
{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=??? | next=???| prevnum=???| nextnum=???| type=Psychic|type2=Fire }}
{{PokémonInfoboxNoncat|
jname=ビクティニ |
tmname=Victini |
image=Victini.png |
size=210px|
art=BW |
pron=<sc>''{{{pron|vic tee nee}}}''</sc> |
species=Victory Pokémon |
typen=2 |
type1=Psychic|
type2=Fire|
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Victory Star |
ability2= |

idex=000 |

height-m=0.4|

weight-kg=4.0 |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Unknown |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=-1 |
expyield=? |
lv100exp=Unknown |
gendercode=256 |
color=Unknown |
catchrate=Unknown |
body=Unknown |
pokefordex= |
generation=5 |
footnotes=}}
([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ビクティニ''' ''Victini'') is an [[Psychic (type)|Psychic]]/[[Fire (type)|Fire]] [[legendary Pokémon]] introduced in [[Generation V]].

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Victini is a small, rodent-like Pokémon. Its large, pointed ears are shaped like the letter V, possibly for its name. Its head is comparatively large for its small body, and cream-colored, while the tops of its ears and extremities are all orange. Its arms and legs are rounded to make a sort of "cuff" before ending with small hands and feet. Victini has two tails which appear to be winglike.

====Gender differences====
Unknown.

===Special abilities===

===Behavior===

===Habitat===

===Diet===

==In the anime==
===Major appearances===
Victini made an appearance at the end of [[M13|the thirteenth movie]] as a preview for [[M14|the fourteenth]], with an advertisement of "see you next year" indicating it would have a role in the 2011 movie.

===Minor appearances===

==In the manga==

==In the TCG==


==Game data==

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=Psychic
|type2=Fire
|gen=5
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=Psychic|
type2=Fire|
gen=5 |
bwrarity=One|
bwarea=Event (requires Liberty Ticket) |
}}

====In side games====

===Held items===

===Stats===
====Base stats====


===Type effectiveness===
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Psychic|
type2=Fire|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting= 50 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 200 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 200 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric= 100 |
Psychic= 50 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 200
}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====

====Special moves====

====[[TCG]]-only moves====

===Side game data===

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|sprite1=SpriteVictini
|name1=Victini
|type1-1=Psychic
|type2-1=Fire
|fake1=yes
}}

===Sprites===

==Trivia==
* Victini was first shown in a preview for the [[M14|14th Pokémon movie]] at the end of ''[[M13|Ruler of Illusions: Zoroark]]''.
* Victini's number in the [[List of Pokémon by Isshu Pokédex number|Isshu Pokédex]] is 000, making it the first Pokémon to legitimately have the number 000 in any Pokédex listing.
* It is the only Pokémon with a [[Psychic (type)|Psychic]]/[[Fire (type)|Fire]] typing.
===Origin===

====Name origin====
Victini possibly comes from ''victory'' and ''teeny''.

==In other languages==


==External links==

==Notes==
<references />
{{Legendary Pokémon}}
{{User:Maverick Nate/Mainspace}}
{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=??? | next=???| prevnum=???| nextnum=???| type=Psychic|type2=Fire }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}

Victini (Pokémon)

2010-08-03T14:34:10Z

FrozenStrategy: Spelling error.

{{Unknown Pokémon}}
{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=??? | next=???| prevnum=???| nextnum=???| type=Psychic|type2=Fire }}
{{PokémonInfoboxNoncat|
jname=ビクティニ |
tmname=Victini |
image=Victini.png |
size=210px|
art=BW |
pron=<sc>''{{{pron|vic tee nee}}}''</sc> |
species=Victory Pokémon |
typen=2 |
type1=Psychic|
type2=Fire|
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Victory Star |
ability2= |

idex=000 |

height-m=0.4|

weight-kg=4.0 |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Unknown |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=-1 |
expyield=? |
lv100exp=Unknown |
gendercode=256 |
color=Unknown |
catchrate=Unknown |
body=Unknown |
pokefordex= |
generation=5 |
footnotes=}}
([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ビクティニ''' ''Victini'') is an [[Psychic (type)|Psychic]]/[[Fire (type)|Fire]] [[legendary Pokémon]] introduced in [[Generation V]].

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Victini is a small, rodent-like Pokémon. Its large, pointed ears are shaped like the letter V, possibly for its name. Its head is comparatively large for its small body, and cream-colored, while the tops of its ears and extremities are all orange. Its arms and legs are rounded to make a sort of "cuff" before ending with small hands and feet. Victini has two tails which appear to be winglike.

====Gender differences====
Unknown.

===Special abilities===

===Behavior===

===Habitat===

===Diet===

==In the anime==
===Major appearances===
Victini made an appearance at the end of [[M13|the thirteenth movie]] as a preview for [[M14|the fourteenth]], with an advertisement of "see you next year" indicating it would have a role in the 2011 movie.

===Minor appearances===

==In the manga==

==In the TCG==


==Game data==

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=Psychic
|type2=Fire
|gen=5
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=Psychic|
type2=Fire|
gen=5 |
bwrarity=One|
bwarea=Event (requires Liberty Ticket) |
}}

====In side games====

===Held items===

===Stats===
====Base stats====


===Type effectiveness===
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Psychic|
type2=Fire|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting= 100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric= 100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100
}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====

====Special moves====

====[[TCG]]-only moves====

===Side game data===

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|sprite1=SpriteVictini
|name1=Victini
|type1-1=Psychic
|type2-1=Fire
|fake1=yes
}}

===Sprites===

==Trivia==
* Victini was first shown in a preview for the [[M14|14th Pokémon movie]] at the end of ''[[M13|Ruler of Illusions: Zoroark]]''.
* Victini's number in the [[List of Pokémon by Isshu Pokédex number|Isshu Pokédex]] is 000, making it the first Pokémon to legitimately have the number 000 in any Pokédex listing.
* It is the only Pokémon with a [[Psychic (type)|Psychic]]/[[Fire (type)|Fire]] typing.
===Origin===

====Name origin====
Victini possibly comes from ''victory'' and ''teeny''.

==In other languages==


==External links==

==Notes==
<references />
{{Legendary Pokémon}}
{{User:Maverick Nate/Mainspace}}
{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=??? | next=???| prevnum=???| nextnum=???| type=Psychic|type2=Fire }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}

User talk:Zesty Cactus/Archive 3

2010-08-03T13:36:34Z

FrozenStrategy: New-ish user wants to help, but doesn't know how... >_<

* [[User talk:Zesty Cactus/Archive 1|Archive 1]]: June 2008-November 2009
* [[User talk:Zesty Cactus/Archive 2|Archive 2]]: November 2009-February 2010

==Error codes==
I hit an edit conflict with you twice, and the second said inuse. Do you mind if I save an edit, then you continue. If its been over an hour, disregard this message. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:13, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah go for it, sorry D; --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:15, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::You actually did pretty much everything I was going to, but I'll save the few differences there were. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:16, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Great minds think alike, I suppose ;) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:17, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::::After the first conflict, I had a bit I wanted to change. After the second one, only this little bit was left. Also, were you thinking of breaking the article off away from [[Glitches]]? If so, we think too much alike. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:20, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::I had thought about it before, especially after the second gen stuff was added, but I decided it was fine for now. But 8F Way added a crapton of stuff and now I think it's definitely enough to flesh out into a full article. I'm actually almost done proofreading, could you hold off for a few more minutes? --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:29, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::K I'm done for now. Go for it :) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:40, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

== Hey! I notice you have a friend code.... ==
So... do you want to battle over Wi-Fi? My code is: 0947 2869 1878. -[[User:?????|''Full of'']][[User talk:?????|<big>Questions</big>]]
:Eh, no thanks. I'm not really much of a battler. Sorry! --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 00:10, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Ok, it's fine. -[[User:?????|''Full of'']][[User talk:?????|<big>Questions</big>]]

== editing ==
from: rasengan0
Hey man, thanks for the tips. i know i do use the preview button. I just accidentally hit save page and the page was incomplete. {{unsigned|rasengan0}}

Also how do i add an image of a pokemon in-battle. {{unsigned|rasengan0}}

yes thats exactly what i did. I used a pokemon modifier code and Screenshotted. {{unsigned|rasengan0}}

eh - i can try to use an encouter code and steal trainer's pokemon if you would like a pokedex entry. i've done it before. dont remember if the game froze or wat. {{unsigned|rasengan0}}

is there a list of templates to use in like the height, weight, etc. that area. the gens, the moveset, yeah..--[[User:Rasengan0|Rasengan0]] 05:50, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== Romanization ==

I suggest you talk to this user before s/he continues making a mess... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:48, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:I did send them a talk page message.... --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 21:50, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== Links to some Pokémon food products that could be added... ==

I was searching for further Pokémon food products to add whilst browsing, and found this link (http://www.hardrock-pokemon.com/PokemonCardAccessories/EeveeCandyTin) (which contains M&M-like candy), along with this (http://www.wizzywig.com/xcart/catalog/Meiji-Pokemon-Movie-Gummy-p-47315.html). Would you be able to help me find and add suitable, standard-format information about them to the article? (Usually, I would be able to do it without assistance, but lately it seems I have been suffering from a lack of self-confidence on Bulbapedia, probably caused by the HG/SS Server Overload gap.) [[User:Steph|Steph]] 22:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:Sure, I can poke around the net for a little bit and maybe write some stuff up. I totally know what you mean re: confidence, I've been finding it hard/weird to get back into editing :S --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 01:28, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

== Pokéwalker Edits ==

Thanks for the feedback, I've modified the copy to omit "you", "your" ~ and thanks for the welcome! <3 {{unsigned|Suffen}}

== If you can edit this ==

Then you're good. Congratulations. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:39, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks! :D --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:41, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

== Bronzong ==

Hi!. I see that you erased my addition to Bronzong’s article. I’d like to justify it. I took it from [[http://books.google.it/books?id=TDr_TdYIWhQC&pg=PA19&lpg=PA19&dq=Eight+centuries+ago,+the+priests+of+Mugenyama,+in+the+province+of+Totomi&source=bl&ots=sLKDPxawmH&sig=faJMnhbEi7vQjRNMkl_kioqUDjk&hl=it&ei=RNL-S86SNc6m-AbnxcGkCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBoQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Eight%20centuries%20ago%2C%20the%20priests%20of%20Mugenyama%2C%20in%20the%20province%20of%20Totomi&f=false]]. From my point of view it is notable because it explains: why a mirror evolves into a bell, its ability (Heatproof), why Bronzong is a Psychic-type (the spirit of the woman), its Diamonf Pokédex entry (''One caused a news sensation when it was dug up at a construction site after a 2000-year sleep''). I’d like to know the reason behind your deletion. --[[User:Siegfried|Siegfried]] 20:20, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
:I erased it because I found your explanation of the legend was quite long, yet did not explain why it relates to Bronzong (your justification makes enough sense, but its not neccessarily obvious). I suppose its ok to include in the article if you make it clearer how it relates to Bronzong (and try not to make it too long plz D:). There isn't a wikipedia article on it (or something) that you could link to, is there? --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:55, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
::Well, I tried to summarize to the bones the original text to emphasize only the notable informations. I actually avoided on purpose to make links to ''Heatproof'', ''Bronzor'' and so on because I didn't want to be too pedantic, but it seems I turned too esoteric instead... I actually don't know how to make it shorter without spoiling it (it's just a little more than 3 lines), but if you have any idea, feel free to edit it. The source is quite autoritative, being taken from [[wp:Kwaidan: Stories and Studies of Strange Things|Kwaidan: Stories and Studies of Strange Things]], a famous book by [[wp:Lafcadio Hearn|Lafcadio Hearn]]. As you can see in the article, I've taken it from the ''Of a Mirror and a Bell'' story. --[[User:Siegfried|Siegfried]] 21:17, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

== Thanks ZC. ==

Thanks for fixing the link on my userpage, Zesty. It's nice to have people other than me going to it. ^_^ --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 07:15, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit: oops, sorry. Forgot my signature x.x --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 07:15, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

== [[Pokémon in Latin America|PKMN LATAM]] ==

There is enough information in the article but do you think you need something else? if there are more things to add, I think the only thing left is do a review (from you) of grammar and spelling, but then other details then postulate for [[Bulbapedia:Featured articles|featured article]]. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://www.pokeguia.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 17:17, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:Help me please, [[Talk:Pokémon in Latin America/Featured article candidate|is urgent]]. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://www.pokeguia.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 21:55, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
::Ok, but please do it as soon as possible. I want this article be a featured article but what I have said before and I have no idea what to do. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://www.pokeguia.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 16:38, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Sounds like a good idea, but in the case of dubbing of those movies in Argentina is complicated that we only know that these movies are dubbed in that country but we know for sure the voice actors for each character in them. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://www.pokeguia.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 18:11, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::::It looks good, but I was thinking that part of what they had said in the discussion about the large number of external links and names are in bold, do you think that you can greatly reduce that? I was thinking too well and I think is right in saying there are several pictures of the voice actors, I think we should leave the paper the images of the most important voice actors what do you think? --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://www.pokeguia.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 18:29, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::Sounds good and I think there is no choice. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://www.pokeguia.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 02:50, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Hello. Please do not forget to help me with the item. Not much time left. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://www.pokeguia.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 16:28, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

== Standard ==

Notices go above categories. Categories are the second to last thing on a page, followed by interwiki links. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 21:14, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the heads up! I'd actually misspelled my 'original' link and didn't realize it, haha. {{unsigned|Nikc}}

== will you use my usertag ==

the usertag that you know about I would like you to use--[[User:Megamaxxor|'''''Mega''''']][[User talk:Megamaxxor|'''maxxor''']]-- 18:33, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

== about the ranger manga ==

I dont think it was

the manga is only available to the Daisuki Fanclub (or whatever its called) online and therefore would only be availabe online...

the same for battonage I assume...(also I've never heard anything about blazing exploration squad bein more than a one shot)
([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 15:01, 7 July 2010 (UTC))

== Zestyyyyy ==

Are you getting database errors when you save a page? [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 00:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
:I haven't been, though I haven't been editing much today. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 01:39, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Your assistance... ==

It is required...D:. Can you get on AIM like any time soon? --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 19:52, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:I can't get on AIM right now, I'm at work. D: Is there any way else I can help? --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:01, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
::I'll be home around six pm (in about two hours) if that's of any use. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:01, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:::We were discussing the Platinum/Platina issue, and were going see if you knew, but it seems the problem was taken care of, sorry for the disruption...orz.--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 20:05, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Haha don't worry about it ^^' --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:07, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

==Page Reversion==
A user has been adding some trivia to city pages that is already included in the name origin section. Can I revert the changes or does an admin need to do so? So far I've seen it on Saffron, Cinnabar, Viridian, and Mahogany.--[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 16:37, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:You can do it yourself if you want, it doesn't really matter. ^^' --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 17:57, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

==WHY?==
Why can't I put a spoiler box on it? I WAS DISTURBED BY IT! WHY? {{unsigned|Gamerater888}}

==I Give up==
I'm giving up. I will stop trying to put the spoiler box on. But, tell my why can't I put the spoiler box on? We do it for the shipping pages.[[User:Gamerater888|Gamerater888]] 15:25, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

==OK==
Ok. I'm sorry. But will ask to at least put a spoiler on the pictures.
[[User:Gamerater888|Gamerater888]] 15:34, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

== As to not fill up their talk pages.. ==

Both [[Suzuran Conference]] and {{p|Shimama}} are missing their accented é. For Shimama, é is missing in the first sentence of physiology, and for Suzuran Conference, in the second and third paragraphs, respectively. --[[User:♫Green♫|♫]][[Special:Contributions/♫Green♫|Green]][[User Talk:♫Green♫|♫]] 20:26, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
:Done, thanks for finding these. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:30, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

== Volume 8 Viz ==

You got the copy? Tell me everything. First, did they catch Youngster Joey's name? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 19:11, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, a comic shop in my city released them early. They did catch Joey's name, and the Sages in Sprout Tower have the same names as in the game too. All of the rounds have different titles from Chuang Yi's version (as was expected), and Gold's Pokémon's nicknames end in -bo instead of -taro (Aibo, Polibo, Exbo, Sunbo). --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 19:50, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

COuld you at least tell us the names? sorry to bother ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:53, 30 July 2010 (UTC))
:Aibo = Ataro, Polibo = Poltaro, Exbo = Explotaro, Sunbo = Sintaro. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 19:55, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

I meant the chapters... ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:56, 30 July 2010 (UTC))
:Oh! lol sorry my bad. CP asked me not to add them to the articles until the 3rd, but here they are:
* [[PS091]]: Murkrow Row
* [[PS092]]: Who Gives a Hoothoot?
* [[PS093]]: Sneasel Sneak Attack
* [[PS094]]: Elekid Incorporated
* [[PS095]]: Stantler By Me
* [[PS096]]: Number One Donphan
* [[PS097]]: Bellsprout Rout
* [[PS098]]: Totodile Rock
* [[PS099]]: Sunkern Treasure
* [[PS100]]: Into the Unown
* [[PS101]]: Teddiursa's Picnic
* [[PS102]]: Ursaring Major
* [[PS103]]: You Ain't Nothin' but a Houndour
:--[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:00, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
::Awesome info, thanks Zesty! --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 20:05, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Ah, one more thing. In Japanese (Kainen, Mokunen etc.) and Chuang Yi (Painful, Mindful etc.) the Sages' names made a pun, so they wanted to call Gold "Awful" (in Japanese "Nanya-nen" which means "WTF"). What did they try to call him in Viz version, then? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 20:10, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Well VIZ just grabbed the names of the sages out of the games, so there's no pun to be made and they just say "You shall be called Nanyanen" out of nowhere. o_O i guess they missed that one :P --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:14, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::The names in Japanese were grabbed out of the games as well. The thing is, that Japanese give names with meaning even to normal, meaningless trainers. The English game translators don't, they just give random names. But it's good that they're consistent with the game translations. I actually prefer it to some pun. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 20:16, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Who gives a hoot, Electric Incorporated, Stand by me, Number one Fan, Crocodile Rock, Sunken Treasure, Into the Unknown, Ursa Major, YOu aint nothin's but a hound dog (Cryin' all the time) thats all I got from the puns ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 20:27, 30 July 2010 (UTC))
:There's also "Teddiursa's Picnic", which comes from "Teddy Bears' Picnic", a children's song. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:30, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

== Policy ==
Is there a place on Bulbapedia where users can discuss policies and maybe bring up ideas for improvements? If so, where? [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 13:36, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Talk:The Electric Tale of Pikachu

2010-08-02T23:14:34Z

FrozenStrategy: Spoilers...

I've uploaded cover photos for the first issue of each series, in case someone finds a place to use them. They're not high quality as the the company who made my scanner won't let anyone release drivers for Linux for it, so I used my digital camera. The images are:
* Image:Manga Electric Pikachu Boogaloo English v1 300x400.jpg
* Image:Manga Pikachu Shocks Back English v1 300x400.jpg
* Image:Manga Surfs Up Pikachu English v1 300x400.jpg
* Image:Manga The Electric Tale of Pikachu English v1 300x400.jpg
--[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

== The or no The? ==

In the title. Should it be ''The Electric Tale of Pikachu'' or simply ''Electric Tale of Pikachu''? The opening line refers to it as the former... '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 00:42, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

:According to most sources including the original book, I believe "The" is part of the title and not simply a grammatical addition. [[User:HechEff|HechEff]] 20:26, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
::Sorry, I didn’t realize there was a discussion “ongoing”. But really, no debate has occurred since January, at which time adding “The” was favored. And in the wake of the ''Adventures'' decision, logic and policy seem clear: English titles on Encyclopaediae Pokémonis’s English wiki. Anyway, if/when my moves are restored, I forgot an exclamation point at the end of the series and first volume titles, be sure to include it. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 17:25, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Bumping this discussion because we should really reach a consensus. LaprasBoi, this isn't really an issue of English title vs. Japanese, thankfully that's FINALLY been resolved for the manga pages, this is more of a grammar/correctness thing.
:::As for my thoughts on "the The", I still think the pages should be moved to the title with the The, as VIZ's first volume uses the The, and I believe Chuang Yi's version uses the The for all four volumes. It can be a little grammatically awkward, but I believe it's more correct. (oh god if i have to type the word "The" again... >_O) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 15:25, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

== Movie Adaptation? ==

I'm pretty sure there was also an adaptation of the first Pokémon movie based on The Electric Tale of Pikachu, or am I wrong? [[User:XD375|XD375]] 17:20, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
:You aren't wrong. I remember borrowing a CoroCoro from a friend, and there was a separate, smaller booklet enclosed in it celebrating the release of the first movie. This booklet had a manga based on the first few minutes of the first movie, and was draw by Ono. --[[User:Kohei|Pizza]][[User talk:Kohei|man]] 12:19, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

==info==
why isnt there any info for chapeters 2 and onward??[[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]

:Because we don't have an Electric Tale expert who can easily make the pages. Given that most of the manga experts here base themselves on [[Pokémon Special]], it may be awhile before an Electric Tale expert could show up...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:06, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:I have all four copies of Dengeki Pikachu. Just tell me what tasks I need to perform. [[User:HechEff|HechEff]] 20:21, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

== Wait, ''WHAT?'' Gay? ==

''"Also, it was strongly hinted that main character Ash was gay."''

Now, I haven't read this entire series (I've read the Viz translations of volumes 2 and 4, and the first 3 chapters of volume 1 in Japanese), however I have seen ''nothing'' suggesting that Satoshi is gay. In fact, quite the opposite. Unlike his anime counterpart he actually shows ''blatant attraction to women''. For specific examples, Shigeru's sister Satsuki and Kasumi's sisters Sakura, Ayame and Botan come to mind. --[[User:Sato|Sato]] 11:31, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
:It's probably because of the [[Ritchie]] part. I've read it but I think they were just buddies. Ash seemed more attracted to girls. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:48, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

:I agree with Sato's statement. Unlike in the majority of the TV series, Satoshi/Ash may even borderline being Takeshi/Brock's partner in crime when it comes to girl hunts. More evidence of this being when they snuck up on Kasumi/Misty in the bath scene in the original version. Either way, I am yet to find evidence regarding the main character being 'gay' as some put it (and naturally, humorous gags do not count). [[User:HechEff|HechEff]] 20:20, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

== Regarding "the The" ==

Just throwing this out there... I still think this should be moved to "The Electric Tale of Pikachu". VIZ's first volume is called "The Electric Tale of Pikachu!" and all four of Chuang Yi's volumes are also "''The'' Electric Tale of Pikachu". --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:06, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

== I'll be working on the third volume ==

I've got a copy of the third volume right here. I'll scan the chapter intro pages and write up synopses. I'll be writing them in my sandbox (which should have a link on my user page soon, if it already doesn't), and will not create the pages until I feel they're ready. I'll just need to ask for help with relating this volume to the other three, as it's the only one I have. And I'm lost when it comes to templates, so once they're created, anyone's welcome to put them up for me.

It might take me some time though, so I welcome any help that anyone can give. :D ~~ '''[[User:Scyther Be Awesome|Scyther Be Awesome!]] [[User talk:Scyther Be Awesome|Talk!]]''' 02:03, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
:Myself and the other project members would be glad to help proofread and template-ify any articles you could help create. I own the first two volumes, so I should at least be able to help relate those to number three. Thanks so much for the help! --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 02:11, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

== Spoiler Warning ==
This article states the conclusion of the manga. Some people are often angry at learning the outcome of a series before the finish watching/reading it. I propose that we adopt the same or similar measures as here [http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_VII#Story]. As you can see, there is a "Spoiler Warning" template. Shouldn't something like this be implemented? Particularly for such a popular series. [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 23:14, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Pikachu (Pokémon)

2010-08-02T16:30:02Z

FrozenStrategy:

==Pika Pika ==

Dude, Pikachu looks *nothing* like a pika. Seriously. {{unsigned|Blackjack Gabbiani}}

It does in pictures I saw in National Geographic...[[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 05:46, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Not in any pictures I've ever seen. Pikas look more like nutrias to me. {{unsigned|Blackjack Gabbiani}}

I don't now what nutrias are, but I ''do'' know that Pikachu looks like a rabbit. {{unsigned|Pokencyclopedia}}

Regarding the name origin, I've been told that pikapika is an "expression for the brightness of gold", not simply just meaning sparkle. Can someone confirm? --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 13:26, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It is a very broad sound symbolism for sparkle - from ''daiya-ga pikapika hikaru'' (diamonds sparkle) to ''pikapika-no kagu'' (well-polished furniture), from ''hoshi-ga pikapika hikaru'' (stars twinkle) to ''pikapika-no ichinensei'' (not even going to try to figure this one out). I suppose it wouldn't be too far of a stretch to say "gold shines" using ''pikapika''. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 14:48, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

''pikapika-no ichinensei''. Gah, I never wanted to hear that again. One company uses that almost like a motto in every one of their rather annoying ads. They're probably in some of the old encodes I did. --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 01:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Is there any ''official'' source that states that its name comes from pikapika and not from the pika? [[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|Contribs]][[Image:Ani408MS.gif]][[Image:Ani410MS.gif]] 00:33, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Honestly, Pikachu has the best name in my opinion, as it can have obvious meanings in both Japanese and English. As stated, Japanese has pikapika (sparkle) + chuchu (squeak). PLUS Pika (animal related to rabbit) and chu being homophonous to the English word "chew", like gnaw, as a rodent does. ^^ Official evidence or no, you have to admit it'd be some coincidence if the world's most popular Pokémon just happened to be the only one with such a perfectly suited name, neh? :3 [[User:Heart of Thorns|Heart of Thorns]] 23:34, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

==Location Table==

Pleae give feedback to the [[Bulbapedia:Project Pokédex]] discussion. [[User:Fabu-Vinny|Fabu-Vinny]] 12:49, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

== Bio ==

I added a whole Biology section! Feedback, please. [[User:Supermariorobot|Supermariorobot]] 05:00, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
: Try not to write as if the subject were in the real world - comparisons to real domestic pets are simply unnecessary; instead, compare to other Pokémon. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 08:10, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

==Kanto Native?==
I noticed that in the games, Pikachu can only be found "in the wild" in the Kanto Region. In GSC, Pikachu was only on Route 2 in Kanto, in RSE, it was only in the Safari Zone, which contained only "imported" Pokemon (that is, no Generation III Pokemon), and in DP, it's only in the Trophy Garden, a place that's basically confirmed to be importing Pokemon from other regions.

These "coincidences" lead me to believe that Pikachu is native to the Kanto Region, and its appearance everywhere else is due to humans bringing them to other locals.

Ignoring anamonlies like Pokemon Ranger, would it be a stretch to say that Pikachu are normally found only in Kanto as a piece of Trivia?--[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 19:37, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:What is your reason for ignoring Fiore? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 18:44, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
::I'd think it's Kanto-native, too, but yeah, Fiore brings up a problem. I do agree, though, that they plopped in in the Hoenn Safari Zone so that they could have an excuse to have it in the Hoenn Dex. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 19:25, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Because it's a "Side Game". And then you include the "wild" Pikachu in Mystery Dungeon, the Pikachu in Trozei!, and the "gift" Pikachu in PBR and Japanese Colosseum. Ranger also has Wild Starter Pokemon, Wild Fossils, and other anomolies, so I didn't include it. It was mostly a thought about the core RPGs. --[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 20:34, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
::::Your anomolies don't mean much. The Trozei Pokémon are not wild, nor are the gift Pokémon. Orre only has nine wild Pokémon, none of which cause issues. Mystery Dungeon is set in a different dimension. However, Fiore is an established region with links to the world of the main RPGs. Starter Pokémon have to be found wild somewhere so being specific to Fiore where trainers are not found makes a lot of sense. The only fossil there is Aerodactyl, which is suitably found in an ancient area, not that fossils are that special any more.
::::You can mention that it is the case in the handheld main series but the side games still count in the canon. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 00:31, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

== Vandal Alert! ==

This page has been vandalised and I don't know how to revert it! Please help! {{unsigned|Manga-in-a-bottle}}

;Don't worry, I reverted back to normal. I also told the admins to ban User:Deanpeps. --[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 11:07, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

== TCG ==

Where is the '''In the TCG''' section? -[[Image:Spr 3e 186.gif|30px]][[User:Politoed666|Politoed]][[User talk:Politoed666|666]][[Image:Spr 3e 186.gif|30px]]

==Fly and Surf==

How can Pikachu learn fly and surf? I know Gameshark can but can anyone write something to show really how? [[User:Kiewzhenyi|Kiewzhenyi]] 15:16, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

IT CAN'T! --[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 17:30, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
:There are special promo Pikachu that learn these moves, but there is no way to teach a Pikachu these on its own. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 18:54, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

I know that it can only be obtained through promos. I think writing in a more detailed way, exactly how it is being obtained and events to obtain it in the article would be more helpful. [[User:Kiewzhenyi|Kiewzhenyi]] 13:02, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

The TCG has a card called Flying Pikachu. The Pikachu has balloons tied around it, so that it could fly. Its attacks are Thundershock and Fly. {{unsigned|Metagross72}}

Old Glitch with the Yellow Pikachu. Use it in one of the two Stadiums through all eight battles in one of the cups and it can learn Surf. I personally have never been able to do it because I could never get my pika high enough to battle in the Cup, but I hear it can be done. Only method I know of. [[User:Xanhawk|Xanhawk]]22:51 Dec. 21, 2008
:That wasn’t a glitch, it only occurred in Stadium 1, it specifically had to be a Master Ball round, and any Pikachu would work… [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 04:55, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== GSC Tail ==

How is Pikachu's tail backwards in GSC? Could someone show me? I can't tell!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:51, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
:Look at the two backsprites, and compare it to those of RSE and DP. [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|☆]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 18:54, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, but doesn't [[Ash's Pikachu|Pikachu]]'s tail move around to different positions? Couldn't the staff use the excuse that the Pikachu turned its tail?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 19:01, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
:Of course. Same as the excuse to have Ash leave all of his Johto team at home before Hoenn. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:36, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

:U don't need to be so rude about it!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 20:45, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Huh. In any case, it is quite apparent that they were trying to make the tail look more like a thunderbolt. ~ [[User:Zeofar|Zeofar]] 03:41, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

== Sexist!? ==

The heart-shaped tail of the female Pikachu is criticized as being sexist? At least that's what a user put in the trivia section. I haven't heard of such a thing. Anyone else? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:15, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
:Don't you know? Heart-shaped ''anything'' is sexist. BAN LUVDISC UNTIL THEY TURN IT INO A CD-ROM! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:34, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

::Now that you mention it... How could I have ever forgotten? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:36, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, I would have to agree with that sexist theory, using this spectrum of thought; what do we associate hearts with? Love and cuteness. Not all females are cut and love-obsessed, I can assure you that... ((Forgive me if that argument sounds somewhat incoherent, as I am somewhat sleep-deprived.)) --Deoxys Ribonuke
:Well, then I guess Heracross is sexist too then? As well as May's Bulbasaur. This is stupid, who ever brought that up? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:43, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

I LUV PIKACHU - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Uiii|Uiii]] ([[User talk:Uiii|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Uiii|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:...that's nice, but how does this have to do with this topic or the main article? - [[User talk:SpontaneousCombusken|s.]][[User:SpontaneousCombusken|'''Combusken''']] 02:11, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
You know, I was rather concerned at first because I though the heading said "sexiest"... [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 10:43, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:Lol.Sexist is too harsh of a word for it[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]

I really don't think its that much of an issue.....--Pokelova 01:20, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

:Right. Who cares? [[User:FireHazard|Slash!!]] 01:48, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
::There are mad little kids who go on though... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:47, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm just compelled to point out the irony of posting in this topic two months later.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:28, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Ok...so? What do you think though?{{unsigned|Ht14}}
:::::The point is that it makes no sense to point out that sometimes people stay angry after the topic was dropped for two months.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 07:04, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

== Pikachu hasn't .... ==

Appeared at every movies.
How about the Legend of Thunder Pikachu didn't appear. {{unsigned|Justine53}}
: That is not a movie, that is a Pokémon Special for T.V only--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 06:10, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
:: The Legend of Thunder! (Japanese: ポケットモンスタークリスタル・ライコウ　雷の伝説 Pocket Monsters Crystal: Raikou - Legend of Thunder) is a made-for-TV anime movie. it has movie in it.{{unsigned|Justine53}}
::: It's not really a movie seeing as it was only seen on T.V and/or DVD, Not in Cinemas (I think). --[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 06:53, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
::::There are currently 11 (to be 12) Pokémon movies. ''[[Mewtwo Strikes Back]]'', ''[[The Power of One]]'', ''[[Spell of the Unown]]'', ''[[Pokémon 4Ever]]'', ''[[Pokémon Heroes]]'', ''[[Jirachi: Wish Maker]]'', ''[[Destiny Deoxys]]'', ''[[Lucario and the Mystery of Mew]]'', ''[[Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]]'', ''[[The Rise of Darkrai]]'', and ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''. ''[[To the Conquering of Space-Time]]'' isn't yet released, but when it is in July it will be #12. ''[[Mewtwo Returns]]'' and ''[[The Legend of Thunder]]'' aren't movies. They're special episodes. In Japan, LOT and MR were covered in an hour, since LOT wasn't broken up by the morons at 4Kids over there. They were released in ''DECEMBER'', not ''JULY'', and DID NOT APPEAR IN JAPANESE MOVIE THEATERS. They aired on Thursday night at 7 like ''regular anime episodes'' for their debut. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:01, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

== How often has the species appeared in the anime... ==

...when it wasn't owned by Ash. In fact, was Sparky the most recent live Pikachu to appear? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:16, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
:Uh...wasn't there a Pikachu named Sugar in [[DP024]]? ...but I think it was only a Pikachu in flashbacks. When it finally showed up it was a Raichu. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 12:21, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
::No, it wasn't seen in flashback, and did not appeared in the episode at all, as I recall. TTE's right, if we are to count only the live Pikachu. --×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 13:22, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Well that's an interesting thing then. Another one's not been in the main anime since JOHTO. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:03, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

== Pikachu's clones slurred speech ==

It doesn't sound slurred to me. A little different from Ash's Pikachu's but not slurred [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 00:50, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

== Egg Moves ==

As for Pikachu with special moves (like Nintendo Power's Surfing Pikachu), can the event move be passed down to offspring? [[User:Recalcitrancy|Recalcitrancy]] 15:45, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
:Interesting question. I guess no. --'''[[User:Prongs|Prongs]] '''([[User Talk:Prongs|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Prongs|Contributions]])''' 15:58, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

== What!?? ==
What the heck is the "Codec Information" thing on there?? It is not useful at all. Like the one on the page for Red (game). --[[User:FlamingStop|FlamingStop]] 13:15, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
:In Super Smash Bros Brawl, Solid Snake has a taunt only available on Shadow Moses island where he contacts a friend and they talk about someone he is fighting. Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Lucario, and Pokémon Trainer, being in Brawl, all have Codec Discussions centering on them. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 13:17, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
::Yup. Thats true. Althought I never have got that thing to work. [[User:Glitchym1|Glitchym1]] 22:11, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

== Pikachu replacing Clefairy... ==

"Pikachu was not the original Pokémon mascot. It was supposed to be Clefairy, but this was changed because of the popularity of Ash's Pikachu."

This was stated in a interview? If someone has the source, I would like to see it.

And I wish that statement would be more specific. When was decided that Clefairy would be the mascot? Was it when that [[Pocket Monsters (manga)|crappy Pokémon manga]] proved successful in Japan? Or it was decided from the start, and the manga used Clefairy because of that? [[User:Spideym|Spideym]] 22:54, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

== Sprite ==

How come the page has: [[File:Spr_4p_025_m.png]]

But <nowiki>025.png</nowiki> is:[[File:025.png]]

Who did dis?----'''[[User:Missingyes| |\/| | Z]] [[User talk:Missingyes|Z | |\| G]] [[User:Missingyes/Sprites|Y E Z]]''' 17:57, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:I beat you to it...I did it while I was uploading the new custom sprites.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 18:01, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::CUSTOM? There supposed to be the real sprites!----'''[[User:Missingyes| |\/| | Z]] [[User talk:Missingyes|Z | |\| G]] [[User:Missingyes/Sprites|Y E Z]]''' 14:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
:::No...I meant I uploaded the Pikachu Sprite while I was uploading other custom sprites.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 18:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
::::At least it's fixed now, that wasn't even the second sprite! It has to be FROM THE GAME!----'''[[User:Missingyes| |\/| | Z]] [[User talk:Missingyes|Z | |\| G]] [[User:Missingyes/Sprites|Y E Z]]''' 14:16, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS Sprite in wrong place ==

The HGSS sprites are under DPPt. Why? --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 05:23, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:The bottom row is the female version. // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|'''''SzayelAporroGranz''''']][[Image:Ani282MS.gif]] 18:15, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Pikachu? ==

I've herd that in a Wario World game, Wario had a treasure called the Pokémon Pikachu. Is this true? The game was for GameBoy Colour. [[User:Glitchym1|Glitchym1]] 22:06, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Uh, it's Wario ''Land''. Wario ''World'' has no such treasure. [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 17:13, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

== Light Ball in FR/LG? ==

This article says that wild Pikachu from Firered and Leafgreen can have lightballs. The item page says that only Pikachu from R/S/E/D/P/Pt can have lightballs. Has anyone definitely found a lightball in FR/LG? Cause I've been coveting like mad at the Power Plant and found none so far.--[[User:Gsnipe|Gsnipe]] 00:38, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== Humorous Detail ==

"Although its Pokédex entry in Yellow states that a Pikachu will try to bite anyone that yanks its tail, Pikachu is unable to learn Bite.

* However, Ash's Pikachu has bitten him a few times in the anime. "

I didn't know a Pokémon needs to know Bite in order to bite you. Don't you think it's kinda silly to point out some thing any animal with can do regardless if it's a attack? [[User:roconza]]

== The stomach pouch ==

In the trivia, it states that "In Pokémon Red and Blue, Pikachu's sprite shows it having a yellow stomach pouch. This is never shown again in later generations" - But two things - 1. The same area was in Pikachu's Green sprite and it could just be shading. So, should that be removed? [[User:Ugoz|Ugoz]] 08:36, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:Nothing is over of belly to give it the shadow.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 08:41, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
::Then we should basically say the same about Raichu. It's just color shading. We take most other sprite trivia off because this was just the first few years of their graphics, so why doesn't this get taken off for that reason? '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 15:57, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Raichu is supposed to have a stomach pouch--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 10:05, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
::::It's not a pouch. It's just coloring. That's what I'm trying to tell you. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:41, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

== Cuteness ==

Brock states in "Showdown in Pewter City" that: "(Ash's) Pikachu is at his cutest stage. He cant win." Should this be added to the Physiology or trivia sections? {{unsigned|Grubdubdub}}

== Sprites ==

Is it worth noting that a shiny Pichu is the colour of a Pikachu and a shiny Pikachu is the colour of a Raichu, or is that too obvious to mention? --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy Appletree]] 05:20, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:I'd say Pikachu's shiny is more of a darkish gold then brown. I agree on the Pichu one though. However, this is sprite trivia, so there's a chance it won't be added.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 07:20, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:: That's why I asked on the talk page instead of adding it outright. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 07:40, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

== Light Ball Stats ==

I'm not sure if those '''Light Ball''' stats are correct. It says "5%" to capture a Pikachu holding a Light Ball, which should mean one in every 20. However, it took me to capture almost 40 in order to get a Light Ball. (38 captured to be exact, with 7 encounters that fled.) Wouldn't this mean that the chance of capturing a Pikachu with a Light Ball is less than 5%? [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 13:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
:I don't think the hold rates for wild hold items go below five percent. With 38 individuals if the rate is correct there is a chance of 0.00749 (3 sig. fig., If I did the maths right), or about 0.75% chance of that occurring. Unlikely, but you may have just been unlucky. Legendary Pokémon, Veekun, Psypoke and Marrilland all say it's five percent as well. If you have the patience, try it again. Another set of data will help determine if the results are skewed due to random chance, or if there is something wrong with the percentage. Also, just for the record, which game is this in and how/where are you catching them? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:51, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
::I'll do it again some time. The results were worth it. I was playing Emerald and catching them in the Safari Zone. [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 20:09, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

== Caught Pikachu ==

I used the Mew Glitch to catch another Pikachu in Pokemon Yellow... It's still refusing the Thunderstone. Do all Pikachu caught in Yellow refuse the Thunderstone, then?
[[User:Raikami|Raikami]] 21:36, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

== Pokéathlon Stats ==

On my copy of SS, I've captured 2 Pikachu. The first had the stats listed on the article, the second had different stats. Was it a slight bug in the game or does this need adding to the article? [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 16:30, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Cherrim (Pokémon)

2010-08-02T13:30:21Z

FrozenStrategy: /* Trivia */ Oops...

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{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Cherrim |
jname=チェリム |
tmname=Cherrim |
image={{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=421Cherrim-Sunny.png|421Cherrim-Overcast.png}}|
caption={{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=Sunshine|Overcast}} form art by [[Ken Sugimori]] from {{v2|Diamond and Pearl|s}} |
size=90px |
ndex=421 |
sdex=059 |
abrow=048 |
obrow=132 |
typen=1 |
type1=Grass |
type2= |
species=Blossom |
height-ftin=1'08" |
height-m=0.5 |
weight-lbs=20.5 |
weight-kg=9.3 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Flower Gift |
ability2= |
egggroupn=2 |
egggroup1=Fairy |
egggroup2=Plant |
eggcycles=20 |
evsa=2|
expyield=133 |
lv100exp=1,000,000 |
gendercode=127 |
color=Pink |
catchrate=75 |
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'''Cherrim''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''チェリム''' ''Cherrim'') is a {{Type2|Grass}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Cherubi}} starting at [[level]] 25.

Cherrim [[Form differences|changes appearance]] in [[Weather conditions#Intense sunlight|sunny weather]].

==Biology==
===Physiology===
{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=|[[File:Cherrim eyes.png|thumb|left|Cherrim's eyes]]}}
Cherrim has two different forms, both of which are dependent on the [[Weather conditions|weather]] (a trait that is also found in {{p|Castform}}). During normal weather conditions, it appears as two crossing purple petals with a short purple stem, a green leafy sepal covering, and two deep pink feet; its eyes appear to be near its legs in this form. When there is strong sunlight, it appears to have a skirt and "hair" made of pink cherry-blossom petals, radiating outward from a yellow sphere on the back of its head that resembles the center of a flower, along with a small triangular patch of green on its neck. Additionally, two berry-like orbs, resembling cherry-shaped hair ornaments, adorn its head. It has stubby limbs, with the arms being pink and the legs being yellow.

====Gender differences====
None.

====Special abilities====

Cherrim, like many other {{type2|Grass}}s, can utilize the [[sun#Intense sunlight|sun]] in order to use moves like {{m|Synthesis}} and {{m|SolarBeam}} and activate its ability to raise Attack and Special Defense. Cherrim is also able to learn seed-based moves like {{m|Leech Seed}} and {{m|Worry Seed}}, with supporting moves such as {{m|Growth}}, {{m|Helping Hand}}, {{m|Lucky Chant}}.

===Behavior===
Cherrim is said to release all of its pent up anger when it opens. Because of this, it is continuously happy until it closes again.

===Habitat===
[[Image:{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=Cherrim.png|Cherrim no sun.jpg}}|thumb|right|Cherrim in {{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=Sunshine Form|Overcast Form}}|220px]]
[[File:Cherrim eyes.png|thumb|right|Cherrim in {{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=Normal Form|Overcast Form}}|220px]]

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
{{si|Rhonda}} {{pkmn|Cosplay|dressed up as a Cherrim}} in ''[[DP033|All Dressed Up With Somewhere To Go!]]''.

Several Cherrim made an appearance in the Japanese opening ''[[Together]]'' and the movie ''[[M10|The Rise of Darkrai]]''.

Cherrim made its debut appearance in ''[[DP095|Battling the Generation Gap!]]'' under the ownership of [[Lila]].

Three Cherrim appeared in ''[[DP121|The Lonely Snover!]]''.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexbody|DP095|Cherrim|Ash's Pokédex|Cherrim, the Blossom Pokémon. Cherrim stays quiet until its flowers bloom when it becomes quite excitable.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond & Pearl''|Sinnoh}}

==In the manga==
In the Pokémon Adventures manga, a Cherrim was shown under the possession of {{adv|Platinum}} in the {{chap|Platinum}}. It has not seen much use; not much is known about it because of this.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Cherrim (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=grass
|gen=4
|diamonddex=It blooms during times of strong [[Weather conditions#Intense sunlight|sunlight]]. It tries to make up for everything it endured as a bud.
|pearldex=It is docile as a bud, but turns cheerful when it blooms. It folds back into a bud if sunlight wanes.
|platinumdex=If it senses strong sunlight, it opens its folded petals to absorb the sun's rays with its whole body.
|hgssdex=During times of strong sunlight, its bud blooms, its petals open fully, and it becomes very active.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=grass |
gen=4 |
dparea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Cherubi}} |
ptrarity=None |
ptarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Cherubi}} |
hgssrarity=None |
hgssarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Cherubi}} |
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=Grass
|md2=[[Treeshroud Forest]] (1F-9F)
|ranger2=[[Peril Cliffs]]
|scramble=[[Windy Prairie‎]]
|ranger3=[[Ratorato Mountain Path]]
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=grass|
HP= 70 |
Attack= 60 |
Defense=70 |
SpAtk= 87 |
SpDef= 78 |
Speed= 85 }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Grass
|Speed=3
|SpeedMax=4
|Power=2
|PowerMax=3
|Technique=4
|TechniqueMax=5
|Stamina=2
|StaminaMax=4
|Jump=3
|JumpMax=3
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{Type effectiveness|
type1=grass|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 200 |
Ground= 50 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 200 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric= 50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|grass|grass|4|4|Cherrim}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Tackle|Normal|Physical|35|95|35|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Growth|Normal|Status|—|—|40|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|7|Growth|Normal|Status|—|—|40|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|10|Leech Seed|Grass|Status|—|90|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|13|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|19|Magical Leaf|Grass|Special|60|—|20|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|22|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|25|Petal Dance|Grass|Special|90|100|20|Beauty|0||'''}}
{{mlentry4|30|Worry Seed|Grass|Status|—|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|35|Take Down|Normal|Physical|90|85|20|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|43|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|Cool|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|48|Lucky Chant|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Cute|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|grass}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|grass|grass|4|4|Cherrim}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM09]]|Bullet Seed|Grass|Physical|10|100|30|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM19]]|Giga Drain|Grass|Special|60|100|10|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM20]]|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM22]]|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|Cool|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM53]]|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM70]]|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM75]]|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM78]]|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM86]]|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{movelist/note|4|grass}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{eggmoves|grass|grass|4|4|Cherrim}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Vileplume}} {{p|Paras}}, {{p|Parasect}} {{p|Chikorita}}, {{p|Bayleef}}, {{p|Meganium}} {{p|Roselia}}|Aromatherapy|Grass|Status|—|—|5|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Sunkern}}, {{p|Sunflora}} {{p|Roselia}} {{p|Snover}}, {{p|Abomasnow}}|GrassWhistle|Grass|Status|—|55|15|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Lotad}}, {{p|Lombre}}, {{p|Ludicolo}} {{p|Seedot}}, {{p|Nuzleaf}}|Nature Power|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Ivysaur}}, {{p|Venusaur}} {{p|Bellsprout}}, {{p|Weepinbell}}, {{p|Victreebel}} {{p|Chikorita}}, {{p|Bayleef}}, {{p|Meganium}} {{p|Sunkern}}, {{p|Sunflora}} {{p|Nuzleaf}}, {{p|Shiftry}} {{p|Tropius}} {{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}} {{p|Snover}}, {{p|Abomasnow}}|Razor Leaf|Grass|Physical|55|95|25|Cool|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Ivysaur}}, {{p|Venusaur}} {{p|Oddish}}, {{p|Gloom}}, {{p|Bellossom}} {{p|Bellsprout}}, {{p|Weepinbell}}, {{p|Victreebel}} {{p|Chikorita}}, {{p|Bayleef}}, {{p|Meganium}} {{p|Mawile}} {{p|Roselia}}, {{p|Roserade}} {{p|Tropius}} {{p|Carnivine}}|Sweet Scent|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Tangela}}, {{p|Tangrowth}}|Tickle|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Castform}} {{p|Roserade}}|Weather Ball|Normal|Special|50|100|10|Smart|2|||HGSS}}
{{eggmoves/note|4|grass}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|Grass|Grass|4a|4|Cherrim}}
{{mtentry4a|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Smart|1|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Rollout|Rock|Physical|30|90|20|Tough|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Seed Bomb|Grass|Physical|80|100|15|Smart|3||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Synthesis|Grass|Status|—|—|5|Smart|0|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Worry Seed|Grass|Status|—|100|10|Beauty|2|||no|no|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4a|grass}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=grass |
ndex=421 |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=2 |
rate2=1.5 |
iq=B |
Ranger2=yes |
group2=Grass |
assist2=Grass |
field2=Tackle |
field2power=2 |
browser2=It scatters leaves and seeds to attack. |
Ranger3=yes |
group3=Grass |
assist3=Grass |
field3=Cut |
field3power=2 |
}}

===Evolution===
{{Evobox
|family=Normal
|sprite1=420
|name1=Cherubi
|type1-1=Grass
|form1= 
|evotype1=Level
|level1=25
|sprite2={{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=421S|421}}
|name2=Cherrim
|form2={{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=Sunshine form|Overcast form}}
|type1-2=Grass}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=grass|
gen=4|
gender=2formes|
ndex=421|
name=Cherrim|
forme1=S|
}}

==Trivia==
*Cherrim is one of the only two Pokémon to change its form depending on the weather, the other being {{p|Castform}}.
*Along with Castform, it is the only fully-evolved Pokémon that can change forms freely that is not banned from tournaments.
*Sunshine Cherrim still seems to remain in a state of euphoria even in its fainting animation in [[Pokémon Battle Revolution]].

===Origin===
It appears that Cherrim is based on {{wp|cherry blossom}}s.

====Name origin====
Cherrim's name is based off the English words ''cherry'' and ''cherubim'' or ''blossom''. Cherrim might be named after the tree, "cherimoya". Its name may also come from the Irish word ''tirim'', meaning dry weather.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Kinoso - From ''Kirsche'' (cherry), ''Knospe'' (bud), and ''sol'' (Latin and Spanish for "sun").
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Ceriflor - From ''cerise'' (cherry) and {{wp|flora}}.
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 체리꼬 ''Cherikkou'' - From 체리 (cherry) and 꽃 ''kkout'' (flower).
*[[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese (Taiwan and Hong Kong)]]: 櫻花兒 ''Yīng Huā Ér'' - Literally "Cherry blossom child". 兒 can also mean baby.

{{PokémonPrevNext | type=grass | prevnum=420 | nextnum=422 | prev=Cherubi | next=Shellos }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Pokémon with different forms]]

[[de:Kinoso]]
[[es:Cherrim]]
[[fr:Ceriflor]]
[[ja:チェリム]]
[[pl:Cherrim]]
[[pt:Cherrim (pokémon)]]

Cherrim (Pokémon)

2010-08-02T13:27:29Z

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{{PokémonPrevNext | type=grass | prevnum=420 | nextnum=422 | prev=Cherubi | next=Shellos }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Cherrim |
jname=チェリム |
tmname=Cherrim |
image={{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=421Cherrim-Sunny.png|421Cherrim-Overcast.png}}|
caption={{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=Sunshine|Overcast}} form art by [[Ken Sugimori]] from {{v2|Diamond and Pearl|s}} |
size=90px |
ndex=421 |
sdex=059 |
abrow=048 |
obrow=132 |
typen=1 |
type1=Grass |
type2= |
species=Blossom |
height-ftin=1'08" |
height-m=0.5 |
weight-lbs=20.5 |
weight-kg=9.3 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Flower Gift |
ability2= |
egggroupn=2 |
egggroup1=Fairy |
egggroup2=Plant |
eggcycles=20 |
evsa=2|
expyield=133 |
lv100exp=1,000,000 |
gendercode=127 |
color=Pink |
catchrate=75 |
body= 07|
pokefordex=cherrim |
generation=4 |
footnotes= }}
'''Cherrim''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''チェリム''' ''Cherrim'') is a {{Type2|Grass}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Cherubi}} starting at [[level]] 25.

Cherrim [[Form differences|changes appearance]] in [[Weather conditions#Intense sunlight|sunny weather]].

==Biology==
===Physiology===
{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=|[[File:Cherrim eyes.png|thumb|left|Cherrim's eyes]]}}
Cherrim has two different forms, both of which are dependent on the [[Weather conditions|weather]] (a trait that is also found in {{p|Castform}}). During normal weather conditions, it appears as two crossing purple petals with a short purple stem, a green leafy sepal covering, and two deep pink feet; its eyes appear to be near its legs in this form. When there is strong sunlight, it appears to have a skirt and "hair" made of pink cherry-blossom petals, radiating outward from a yellow sphere on the back of its head that resembles the center of a flower, along with a small triangular patch of green on its neck. Additionally, two berry-like orbs, resembling cherry-shaped hair ornaments, adorn its head. It has stubby limbs, with the arms being pink and the legs being yellow.

====Gender differences====
None.

====Special abilities====

Cherrim, like many other {{type2|Grass}}s, can utilize the [[sun#Intense sunlight|sun]] in order to use moves like {{m|Synthesis}} and {{m|SolarBeam}} and activate its ability to raise Attack and Special Defense. Cherrim is also able to learn seed-based moves like {{m|Leech Seed}} and {{m|Worry Seed}}, with supporting moves such as {{m|Growth}}, {{m|Helping Hand}}, {{m|Lucky Chant}}.

===Behavior===
Cherrim is said to release all of its pent up anger when it opens. Because of this, it is continuously happy until it closes again.

===Habitat===
[[Image:{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=Cherrim.png|Cherrim no sun.jpg}}|thumb|right|Cherrim in {{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=Sunshine Form|Overcast Form}}|220px]]
[[File:Cherrim eyes.png|thumb|right|Cherrim in {{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=Normal Form|Overcast Form}}|220px]]

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
{{si|Rhonda}} {{pkmn|Cosplay|dressed up as a Cherrim}} in ''[[DP033|All Dressed Up With Somewhere To Go!]]''.

Several Cherrim made an appearance in the Japanese opening ''[[Together]]'' and the movie ''[[M10|The Rise of Darkrai]]''.

Cherrim made its debut appearance in ''[[DP095|Battling the Generation Gap!]]'' under the ownership of [[Lila]].

Three Cherrim appeared in ''[[DP121|The Lonely Snover!]]''.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexbody|DP095|Cherrim|Ash's Pokédex|Cherrim, the Blossom Pokémon. Cherrim stays quiet until its flowers bloom when it becomes quite excitable.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond & Pearl''|Sinnoh}}

==In the manga==
In the Pokémon Adventures manga, a Cherrim was shown under the possession of {{adv|Platinum}} in the {{chap|Platinum}}. It has not seen much use; not much is known about it because of this.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Cherrim (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=grass
|gen=4
|diamonddex=It blooms during times of strong [[Weather conditions#Intense sunlight|sunlight]]. It tries to make up for everything it endured as a bud.
|pearldex=It is docile as a bud, but turns cheerful when it blooms. It folds back into a bud if sunlight wanes.
|platinumdex=If it senses strong sunlight, it opens its folded petals to absorb the sun's rays with its whole body.
|hgssdex=During times of strong sunlight, its bud blooms, its petals open fully, and it becomes very active.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=grass |
gen=4 |
dparea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Cherubi}} |
ptrarity=None |
ptarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Cherubi}} |
hgssrarity=None |
hgssarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Cherubi}} |
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=Grass
|md2=[[Treeshroud Forest]] (1F-9F)
|ranger2=[[Peril Cliffs]]
|scramble=[[Windy Prairie‎]]
|ranger3=[[Ratorato Mountain Path]]
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=grass|
HP= 70 |
Attack= 60 |
Defense=70 |
SpAtk= 87 |
SpDef= 78 |
Speed= 85 }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Grass
|Speed=3
|SpeedMax=4
|Power=2
|PowerMax=3
|Technique=4
|TechniqueMax=5
|Stamina=2
|StaminaMax=4
|Jump=3
|JumpMax=3
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{Type effectiveness|
type1=grass|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 200 |
Ground= 50 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 200 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric= 50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|grass|grass|4|4|Cherrim}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Tackle|Normal|Physical|35|95|35|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Growth|Normal|Status|—|—|40|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|7|Growth|Normal|Status|—|—|40|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|10|Leech Seed|Grass|Status|—|90|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|13|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|19|Magical Leaf|Grass|Special|60|—|20|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|22|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|25|Petal Dance|Grass|Special|90|100|20|Beauty|0||'''}}
{{mlentry4|30|Worry Seed|Grass|Status|—|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|35|Take Down|Normal|Physical|90|85|20|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|43|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|Cool|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|48|Lucky Chant|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Cute|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|grass}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|grass|grass|4|4|Cherrim}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM09]]|Bullet Seed|Grass|Physical|10|100|30|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM19]]|Giga Drain|Grass|Special|60|100|10|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM20]]|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM22]]|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|Cool|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM53]]|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM70]]|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM75]]|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM78]]|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM86]]|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{movelist/note|4|grass}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{eggmoves|grass|grass|4|4|Cherrim}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Vileplume}} {{p|Paras}}, {{p|Parasect}} {{p|Chikorita}}, {{p|Bayleef}}, {{p|Meganium}} {{p|Roselia}}|Aromatherapy|Grass|Status|—|—|5|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Sunkern}}, {{p|Sunflora}} {{p|Roselia}} {{p|Snover}}, {{p|Abomasnow}}|GrassWhistle|Grass|Status|—|55|15|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Lotad}}, {{p|Lombre}}, {{p|Ludicolo}} {{p|Seedot}}, {{p|Nuzleaf}}|Nature Power|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Ivysaur}}, {{p|Venusaur}} {{p|Bellsprout}}, {{p|Weepinbell}}, {{p|Victreebel}} {{p|Chikorita}}, {{p|Bayleef}}, {{p|Meganium}} {{p|Sunkern}}, {{p|Sunflora}} {{p|Nuzleaf}}, {{p|Shiftry}} {{p|Tropius}} {{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}} {{p|Snover}}, {{p|Abomasnow}}|Razor Leaf|Grass|Physical|55|95|25|Cool|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Ivysaur}}, {{p|Venusaur}} {{p|Oddish}}, {{p|Gloom}}, {{p|Bellossom}} {{p|Bellsprout}}, {{p|Weepinbell}}, {{p|Victreebel}} {{p|Chikorita}}, {{p|Bayleef}}, {{p|Meganium}} {{p|Mawile}} {{p|Roselia}}, {{p|Roserade}} {{p|Tropius}} {{p|Carnivine}}|Sweet Scent|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Tangela}}, {{p|Tangrowth}}|Tickle|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Castform}} {{p|Roserade}}|Weather Ball|Normal|Special|50|100|10|Smart|2|||HGSS}}
{{eggmoves/note|4|grass}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|Grass|Grass|4a|4|Cherrim}}
{{mtentry4a|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Smart|1|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Rollout|Rock|Physical|30|90|20|Tough|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Seed Bomb|Grass|Physical|80|100|15|Smart|3||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Synthesis|Grass|Status|—|—|5|Smart|0|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Worry Seed|Grass|Status|—|100|10|Beauty|2|||no|no|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4a|grass}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=grass |
ndex=421 |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=2 |
rate2=1.5 |
iq=B |
Ranger2=yes |
group2=Grass |
assist2=Grass |
field2=Tackle |
field2power=2 |
browser2=It scatters leaves and seeds to attack. |
Ranger3=yes |
group3=Grass |
assist3=Grass |
field3=Cut |
field3power=2 |
}}

===Evolution===
{{Evobox
|family=Normal
|sprite1=420
|name1=Cherubi
|type1-1=Grass
|form1= 
|evotype1=Level
|level1=25
|sprite2={{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=421S|421}}
|name2=Cherrim
|form2={{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=Sunshine form|Overcast form}}
|type1-2=Grass}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=grass|
gen=4|
gender=2formes|
ndex=421|
name=Cherrim|
forme1=S|
}}

==Trivia==
*Cherrim is one of the only two Pokémon to change its form depending on the weather, the other being {{p|Castform}}.
*Along with Castform, it is the only fully-evolved Pokémon that can change forms freely that is not banned from tournaments.
*Sunshine Cherrim still seems to remain in a state of euphoria even in its fainting animation in [[Pokémon Battle Revolution]].
*Though Cherrim changes forms and has a special ability activated by sunlight, it does not learn {{m|Sunny Day}} by level up.

===Origin===
It appears that Cherrim is based on {{wp|cherry blossom}}s.

====Name origin====
Cherrim's name is based off the English words ''cherry'' and ''cherubim'' or ''blossom''. Cherrim might be named after the tree, "cherimoya". Its name may also come from the Irish word ''tirim'', meaning dry weather.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Kinoso - From ''Kirsche'' (cherry), ''Knospe'' (bud), and ''sol'' (Latin and Spanish for "sun").
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Ceriflor - From ''cerise'' (cherry) and {{wp|flora}}.
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 체리꼬 ''Cherikkou'' - From 체리 (cherry) and 꽃 ''kkout'' (flower).
*[[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese (Taiwan and Hong Kong)]]: 櫻花兒 ''Yīng Huā Ér'' - Literally "Cherry blossom child". 兒 can also mean baby.

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[[Category:Pokémon with different forms]]

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Talk:Nature

2010-07-21T21:33:16Z

FrozenStrategy: Nature vs Nurture, which do YOU believe?

Any chance someone could include the flavours of PokéBlocks that each nature favours? It's hell trying to figure that out... ~~Ketsuban

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I just want to know how to make a graph so I can make a TM chart.[[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 17:46, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)

==Generation IV Natures==
I'm deleting the two natures "Friovolous" and "Meticulous"; there has been no word on these two new presumed natures since August 2006 at the latest, and all of the current major Pokémon sites have either not mentioned or denied these two natures' existence. - [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]]
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I'll delete the generation column because it has no relevance, as no new natures were introduced. - [[User:Chosen|Chosen]]

== Colo/XD ==

Could someone add how Natures affect Purification?

== Mostly rewording for clarity... ==

I reworded and expanded the pre-table description. There wasn't anything particularly horrible about what was there before, but it's more descriptive and more soundly worded now, imo.

== Umlaut? ==

I want to learn why is it "naïve" and not "naive" in this article. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 01:38, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

== Compatability? ==

Do natures affect the breeding compatability in the daycare? (ie how much they like each other) [[User:Sidnoea|Sidnoea]] 17:15, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
:No. Egg groups, species and OT are the only things that affect breeding. Why? [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 17:23, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

==Personality==
what about the other stat influencing thing? you know "Proud of its Power" "Likes to run" all that stuff we need that on here too [[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] 20:42, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:That's on a separate [[Characteristic|page]]...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 20:48, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

== Conflicting Nature and Characteristic ==

I have a Pokémon with a Rash Nature (+Sp Atk, -Sp Def) and "Somewhat Stubborn" Characteristic (+Sp Def). How will this affect the growth of its Sp. Def? --[[User:Arima|Arima]] 05:48, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
:The characteristic doesn't affect the stats like nature does, it just means that it's highest IV is in the Special Defense stat, and so it isn't really ''+Sp. Def''. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:37, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

==Typo (I think)==
is it just me or does it say dv instead of iv on the article
look at this: Note that despite these relationships to a Pokémon's development, natures do not affect experience or DVs.)
see what I mean? ([[User:The snargret guy|The snargret guy]] 17:52, 23 January 2010 (UTC))
:IVs can also be considered DVs for '''determinant values'''. but everyone calls them IVs so, i changed it to that. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 18:05, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
thanks ([[User:The snargret guy|The snargret guy]] 23:47, 25 January 2010 (UTC))

== In HG/SS/Pt ==

In HG/SS/Pt you can tell what effect the nature has on a Pokemon by looking at its stats. The increasing stat faintly glows red while the decreasing stat faintly glows blue. Can I add this to the article? '''''~♪''''' [[User:Zaveno|'''Zaveno''']] [[User talk:Zaveno|'''(Talk)''']] '''''♫''''' 20:15, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
:From the second paragraph:
::''In HeartGold and SoulSilver the stats increased and decreased by a Pokémon's nature are outlined in red and blue respectively when viewing that Pokémon's Summary Screen.''
:It's already there. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:16, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

== [[Pokéathlon]] ==
Shouldn't we add how Natures effect a Pokémon's Performance? I'll make the table if I have to.--[[User:Mr.lol|Mr.lol]] 00:14, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:Please do. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:02, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

== Wild Pokémon ==

Does the nature of a wild Pokémon effect how it will battle? Or are all moves chosen at random? For example, I battled two wild Torkoal in a row. One used Protect as much as possible while the other didn't use it at all. Could this be related to their nature? If this were true, would it be possible to predict how a Pokémon will battle in the Battle Palace by observing how it battles in the wild? [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 21:33, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 10

2010-07-21T17:31:52Z

FrozenStrategy: Is this the right place to bring it up?

This is the [[Bulbapedia:Talk page|talk page]] for the Bulbapedia's front page. If you have a general comment about the wiki, please consider placing it in [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 our forum].'''

== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]

== Route exploration requirements ==

As a continuation from the archived discussion, I'm going to incorporate the "Requirements to fully explore this area" as part of the route description on each article, instead of it having its own section. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:01, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:brilliant idea. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 12:05, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
::No, please do not. Most administers agreed against the case. If you want to write up a "Geography" or "Route description" section including HM/TM requirement, please do. But do not create a section for it.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 14:04, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

== Image of nothing? ==

I've noticed there's an image called File:None.png. It's just a blank white image, and in the summary it says, "Image of nothing". What's the point in it? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 22:51, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:If it were perfectly square, it could be used better as a spacer... buuuuut no. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:12, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::They're for the itemlist template for items that don't have any images (the Gen II berries for example).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 00:28, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

== valentine's day ==

since it's valentine's day tomorrow, could we make the main page luvdisc themed? or something? i think it would be cool. [[User:Empath-Silvio|Empath-Silvio]] 23:54, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:Bulbapedia anniversary celebrations are your Valentine's present. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:11, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

== Main Page ==

This image of Erika with this Bulbasaur looks really odd. How about a better picture. I'd offer to make a new one. {{unsigned|LucaLucario}}
: WOW! This is different! But I do agree about the pic. Everything else, excellent! - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 12:33, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, I agree. It fits but it looks a bit off. Did admins vote on this or something? --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 14:31, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

== The new theme ==

The new Bulbapedia theme is great, but there is a slight problem. The logo "Erika's Garden", and the links for Article, Discussion, Edit etc come up on top of the site content, making it virtually impossible to read the first few paragraphs of each article. Is this a minor glitch due to the theme being very new, or is it a problem with my computer/browser? I hope somebody can fix it soon, thanks! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:51, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:Hm. Apparently the problem occures only in IE, it's perfectly fine on Firefox. Jio will have to take a look at it. In the meanwhile, we strongly suggest you try viewing Bulbapedia in Firefox and not IE, it looks much better there. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 13:01, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::I've got AOL 9.0, I could try that. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:24, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::No, it's the same in AOL. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:28, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Then you should try Firefox. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 13:37, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::I would but my computer's hard drive is practically full, I really cannot download anything more. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:43, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Oh, okay. But it is better to use firefox because all the features of BulbaTrio works absolutely fine on it. Anyway, try to uninstall useless programs if you want free space. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 13:46, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Believe me, I've tried everything to free up my hard drive! Anyway, this is going a little off-topic now. I would really appreciate it if you could make the new theme work on IE, but there's no rush, I'll be patient! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:49, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I hate this look and i don't have firefox. Personally, i think we should either revert back to the old look until it is fixed or have a thing like we do in the forums, choosing what display we have. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 16:56, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

:::::::Which version of Internet Explorer are you using? That may play a role in your problem; I'm using Internet Explorer 8, and everything on that skin's showing up just fine for me. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:57, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::IE8 s well, and everything is OK except the main page and every talk page. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:04, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Yeah, can you make it so that the buttons(article, discussion, ect.)aren't in the way? [[User:Crazylegs24]]
:::::::::I'm using Internet Explorer 7, maybe that could be the root of the problem. I'm sure there's enough space on my hard drive to upgrade, it's not the same as downloading a whole new programme. Perhaps I'll have a go at that. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 17:37, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

=== Hmm... ===
*I'm wondering if there is a way to make Bulbapedia look like the old design. I liked it more. :( [[User:Pokemon1234567890|Raichu]] 17:19, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:My preferences → Skin → Monobook. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 17:34, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::Hey, Bulbapedia is all messed up. Like I can't even welcome cause ther is text in they way. I like the design, but know i can't do anything. [[User:Mudkipluvr4ever|Mudkipluvr4ever]] 18:05, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Then go [[Special:Preferences|HERE]], choose the "skin" tab, and change it to Monobook until this can be figured out. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 18:10, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::There's just one problem... the "Erika's Garden" logo is covering up the "Skins" option so it can't be changed. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 18:13, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Exactly, i can't change it! [[User:Mudkipluvr4ever|Mudkipluvr4ever]] 18:15, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Maybe it's your computers. It's not covering it up for me. :V [[User:Tyro|Tyro]] 18:17, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Read the "The new theme" discussion above. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 18:18, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Okay, I know about Tyro's case. Hey Mudkiplu, which browser are you using? Well, I tried Opera, Chrome and Firefox, it is 1000% working fine on all of them. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 18:20, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::I use Internet explorer. I could try opera i guess. [[User:Mudkipluvr4ever|Mudkipluvr4ever]] 18:21, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::Taro is also using IE and he is facing the exact same problem. So, I guess the problem is in the internet explorer not bulbapedia. Try firfox or opera and then check whether it is working fine or not. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 18:24, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::It is working fine in Opera, but could you change it to work on Internet Explorer too? [[User:Mudkipluvr4ever|Mudkipluvr4ever]] 18:25, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::For those of you who are having problems changing the skin because the logo is in the way, I've just found a solution. Resize the internet window so that the "Skins" link goes below the logo. Then you can go to the Skins page and select Monobook. Hmm... Taro... I rather like that! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 18:27, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Bingo, {{tt|I knew it|Man, I really hate IE due to these kind of problems}}. Anyway, sorry bud I am not an admin and I think {{tt|only admins can fix this problem completely|at least I don't know how to fix it :P}}. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 18:31, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Don't worry I can make do with Monobook for the time being. Um... we're starting to run out of space down here in the bottom right corner! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 18:38, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

For me, the skin tab is totally missing. Is there something wrong? --[[User:LatiasGemstone|'''LG''']][[User talk:LatiasGemstone|T]] 01:56, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
:I am not even seeing a new skin or anything. If I didn't see this discussion, I wouldn't know there was a new skin. I am using Chrome if that helps find my problem. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 02:30, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

::It's being worked on right now; if I'm not mistaken, the skins are currently disabled while it's fixed, so bear with it for a little while if you're still stuck with a buggy skin. (if you absolutely must edit now and you're seeing errors in the skin, download a browser that supports current CSS 2.0 standards, such as Firefox, Opera, or Safari. Internet Explorer is particularly notable for not maintaining web standards.) --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 02:34, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

:::The new theme of bulbapedia is looking too bad (if you ask me). Really, it doesn't suit to bulbapedia at all. Please, can you change it back? ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 09:37, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Yeah the green and red/pink really doesn't even flow well, just looks so random, it was better the old way. [[User:.insomniac.|inso]]m[[User_talk:.insomniac.|niac]] 09:46, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::It's for '''one day''', to celebrate the 14th birthday of Pokémon. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 12:39, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::No offence, but it could have been better if it was a bit yellowish which highlights the color of main Pokémon (just saying :D). --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 12:44, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::It's the anniversary of [[Pokémon Red and Green Versions]]. Hence, Red and Green. One day. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 12:49, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Oh, then its cool (as it totally highlights red and green color). --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 12:55, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:Today is 1st March and celebration is over (I guess so). So, I think the theme should be changed now (it really looks odd on the main page but I think we can change it now as the anniversary is over). Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 17:30, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

== Featured Article ==

What happened to the featured article section? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 16:46, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
:It isn't here because the Did You Know is here. If the DYK is here, the FA isn't here and vice-versa. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 17:03, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
::They switch every half month. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 17:52, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

== uhhhh... what? ==

I am using firefox, and Bulbapedia just looks like it used to. What did I miss? --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 22:54, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
:Its fifth anniversary has passed. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:56, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
::I wish that skin could last longer...--[[Trainer stars|☆]][[User:Tobytse99|Toby]][[User talk:Tobytse99|Tse]][[Trainer stars|☆]] 04:06, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Wait, the skin was only for the fifth anniversary? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 21:19, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Look at the above discussion, please. The skin was designed for the fifth anniversary, but it broke and we turned it off. That's why no one can see it now. Mmkay? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:25, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
:It broke? I thought it just didn't work in Explorer. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 14:38, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
::Well that is the definition of "broken", but yes, that's not all that was going buggy with it. When things get completely ironed out, it'll make it back in as an optional skin, but I don't know when that will happen. The focus is on making the default skin look as good as possible right now. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 18:07, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
:::And it looks great to me! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:59, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

== Countdown to HGSS Clock ==

The clock is mis-programmed. It's counting down to March 13th, at 11:00 PM.--[[User:Wikifixer|Wikifixer]] 09:36, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
:Are you sure? It's says 14th march for me.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 10:16, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
::It seems to be counting down to March 14th, 4am UTC. Now the thing is that while daylight sasvings time starts on the 14th in the US this year, I don't think it starts until 2am on the day itself. So really it needs to count down to 5am UTC, and mention that it's counting to Eastern Standard Time rather than Eastern Daylight Time. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 12:23, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
:::The clock is counting down to midnight EDT. Not like most stores will be open and selling the games at that point, though. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:45, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

== Server Problem? ==

Hey guys, are you facing the same problem that I am facing? All the bulba sites (forum + archieves + news + pedia) aren't working properly. Is there any problem in main server? ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 13:34, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
:Same, whats happening (2nd try at it(!) [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 16:08, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
::I keep on coming up to a page saying there's too many people connected at one time. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 21:01, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Its finally working (not perfectly but better than yesterday). --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 07:08, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Yesterday and earlier today I couldn't access Bulbapedia, it said "Bulbapedia has a problem" and to try reloading in a few minutes (which didn't work). Bulbagarden Forums still worked fine though. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 15:02, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

== An idea for the anime location articles ==

I know, I know, I'm at it again! I was just wondering, would it be a good idea to have a list of the wild Pokémon which can be found in anime-only locations? There are many species of Pokémon that live in Alto Mare, for example. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 19:50, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
:I think no. That information wouldn't be used by anybody and it would be silly and just take up time. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 22:56, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
::Hmm... I had a feeling someone would say that. Perhaps I'll just mention wild Pokémon in the anime section (like in the Alto Mare article). [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:03, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Pop them in the "In the anime" section of the article. Not as a template, just write a description.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 09:34, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

== I'm gonna take a wild guess... ==

...and say it's the anniversary of Red/Green. Correct? --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 06:53, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:: Yes yesterday was the 14 year anniversary of Pokemon since Red and Green were first released in Japan. I don't see why you need to add that to the talk page when you could have easily Googled it. [[User:.insomniac.|inso]]m[[User_talk:.insomniac.|niac]] 07:01, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:::There's another website besides Google that could have given the answer. It's called Bulbapedia. Ever heard of it? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 07:03, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Sorry, just wondering... I just wanted to make sure, and even if I knew it was the annivesary, I wanted to know if the new skin for that day was official. Someone could have just said "Hahaha lolz hey doodz look what eye can doo! look, I maded da front page all prettyful!" You never know, what with all the idiots in the world. 'O course, it's protected (duh) but I didn't know that at the time of asking. --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 04:54, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::Main Page and its constituent templates are protected against doofuses. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:37, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

== The "wanted articles" section needs updating! ==

I just started the wanted article "The Wobbuffet Village", only to find that the article already exists, under the title of "Wobbuffet Village". [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 19:35, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:I think ''The Wobbuffet Village'' is the title of a book, while ''Wobbuffet Village'' is the name of the place. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:05, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
::The wanted pages list is cached. I think it updates every 24 hours. And yeah, [[Wobbuffet Village]] is the place, whereas {{red link|The Wobbuffet Village}} is the [[Pokémon Jr.]] book. That should probably be disambig'd somehow... --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 02:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh, I see! It's a bit misleading though, maybe there should be a note in brackets beside each link explaining exactly what the article should be about. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 14:04, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

== European Release ==

is there any chance that after this countdown ends, another for the European release begins? just so we all know how long we will have to wait... [[User:Empath-Silvio|Empath-Silvio]] 12:25, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
::Nah, do the Australian one, seeing as it's a day before the European one.--[[User:Pokelova|''ポケモン恋人'']][[User talk:Pokelova|''(チャット)'']][[Special:Contributions/Pokelova|''(貢献)'']] 04:16, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
:::It's a week and a half later, guys. We'll count down when you guys get it first. English coverage of HGSS happens as soon as we get the game. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:20, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

==WiKirby - Possible for the NIWA?==

New wiki formed that I think will work for the Nintendo International Wiki Alliance? I am LuKirbio there. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:17, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
:I think it has already been considered as I saw it on the NIWA forums thread for wikis to join the alliance, along with Metroid Wiki. Also, there is [http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=101 this]. I'm Turtwig A there. [[User:Turtwig A|ナエトル]] [[Zoroark (Pokémon)|A]] [[Torterra (Pokémon)|or]] [[Turtwig|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] [[User talk:Turtwig A|My talk]] and my [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contributions]] 00:33, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
::Wikirby was made specifically for the reason that we made NIWA. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 02:33, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
:::if you have a question about NIWA, just go to the NIWA forums. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:34, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

== Logging out ==

I keep getting automatically logged out. Just pointing it out... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:10, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

:Sounds like an issue with your browser possibly, unless a lot of other people are having the same issue. I haven't had any trouble yet.
:If you're clearing out cookies at all, or cleaning your cache, it'll generally log you out, so double-check to make sure you're not accidentally deleting cookies or anything. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 05:11, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

::Not sure if this was ever resolved, but i'm having similar problems. While editing a page, i'll randomly be logged out and have to sign in and resubmit my edit. I know its nothing on my end, because all i've done is sign in, edit, hit "save page"... and i'm already logged out. And probably within the time i've typed this, i've been logged out. --[[User:CherryParanoia|'''Cherry''']][[User talk:CherryParanoia|'''Paranoia''']] 22:47, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

== Unable to Save ==

Hey guys, I am facing this saving problem again. When ever I try to save an article (after editing it, offcourse) it always (most of the times) give me an error " ''Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still does not work, try logging out and logging back in.'' " This problem occurred a long time ago but then it was over. I am facing this problem since 5 days. Can you help me out in solving it? Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 08:57, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:I have no idea, but remember, the main page talk page is not for general questions, it is on the subject of the front page itself. As for solving your problem, I would ask {{tt|MAGNEDETH|please don't get mad at me if you aren't the right guy, Mag!}}. He seems to be good at that stuff. --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 04:59, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, I think it's appropriate to ask questions like these on the Main talk page, where else would he go? If you look at the other questions, some of them are technical issue questions as well. As for your problem Adyniz, if this happens a lot, it might just be a problem on your end. I get this error too sometimes. It could be due to the server issues others have mentioned on this page. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 05:08, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:::I have this problem too, and deal with it be hitting the previous button to try again, until it is able to work. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 05:21, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Genking, I asked this question here because this page is not only for the looks purpose (I think), you can see some previous topics related to technical problems and some general issues not regarding to front page which includes Logging out, Server Problem, Featured Article, Route exploration requirements, Upload error, Since when... and Page history etc (not counting the problems of previous archieves). So, I don't feel anything wrong in asking question here. So, is it server issue or there is something wrong with my net/browser/pc? Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 11:40, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::This talk page is used for questions that involve the Pedia in a whole, which is why there are talk pages for specific questions about Pokémon, items, characters, and locations. And to answer your question Adyniz, they're working some stuff out with the servers, so it might be related, might not. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 14:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::Oh, Thanks. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 16:46, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry, I just read the message at the top of the page and assumed. And yeah, this happened to me a few times recently, too. --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 22:33, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

== Upload error ==

I tried to upload a new version of Bonsly's artwork and it said that the file extension was corrupt. What does this mean and why won't it work? I called the file 438Bonsly.png and the original version is called Art-Bonsly.jpg, is this the cause of the problem? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 16:39, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:Oh, I just realised a better image had already been uploaded. Added it to Bonsly's article. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 16:44, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:Based from what I understood from what you said, I guess it's because pngs can only replace pngs; same for other formats. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 16:50, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

== Page history ==

I am having trouble viewing changes to pages. I can see everything in the page histories just fine, but it won't show the changes for some pages. A specific edit I can think of is [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Blaziken_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=1030242&oldid=1023812 this one]. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:02, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
:I've been having this issue too, although it went away when I went back to the history and clicked "compare" again. I have also been experiencing a glitch where instead of showing a preview the preview button takes you to a preview of a blank page with a blank editing window. Not sure if these are related.--[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 04:32, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
::Found another one [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Samurai&diff=1030342&oldid=998081 here]. This one didn't go away afterward.--[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 04:40, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
:::Database glitches, I'd assume... might be related to the third server coming up. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:44, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, this seems to happen on most articles for me too. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 05:18, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

== Since when... ==

does Chuggaconroy count as recent news? I'm a big fan of his and all, it just seems irrelevant. --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 05:04, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:Bulbagarden teamup with the Crystal LP. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 05:09, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::I was thinking that myself too. An LP being affiliated with Bulbagarden really isn't all that big of a deal. It's certainly not all that newsworthy to spam up the Bulbanews RSS feed with (which rather annoyingly makes a new post in the feed anytime a news story's title is changed...) '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:16, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:::The news feed isn't just for Pokémon News: it's for Bulbagarden news, too. And Bulbagarden is simply announcing their part of the team up.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 13:34, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::::If we didn't, then we'd get a bunch of questions about it. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 14:03, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

== New theme? ==
May I ask, what's going on? Is the green background and everything new, or is my browser mucking up? Some pages have it, some don't, then the ones that do go back to the Wikipedia-style theme, then back to the green forum-like theme? I like the green, but I've never seen it. Thanks? [[User:Takharii|'''たかは''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''りい!''']] 07:55, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:That was the theme used for the 5th anniversary of Bulbagarden a few weeks ago, it didn't work in Explorer apparently, so they removed it to fix it. [[User:Ugoz|Ugoz]] 09:28, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::And it is working now, I suppose.--[[Trainer stars|☆]][[User:Tobytse99|Toby]][[User talk:Tobytse99|Tse]][[Trainer stars|☆]] 12:54, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::Still doesn't work properly in Explorer, I'm sticking to Monobook... [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:10, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Guys It Works for IE 8. Tested It. the Only Bug Being: Some Pages Have Green Theme, Some Have Wikipedia/White Theme.[[User:Ash's Infernape|------ Ash's Infernape. I was a Chimchar, Then a Monferno, I hate Paul, I Love Ash, Myself Infernape.]] 13:31, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::Guys, Update, Its Working Perfectly Fine On Internet Explorer 8. I Dont Know About Other Versions.[[User:Ash's Infernape|------ Ash's Infernape. I was a Chimchar, Then a Monferno, I hate Paul, I Love Ash, Myself Infernape.]] 14:08, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::Google Chrome has it up and running good enough with the same working on some pages and not on others. In particular, talk pages seem to have the old version. I decided to change the skin I'm using back to the old one. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:33, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Firefox is A ok just one bug sometimes its wikipedia style then in others its the cool new theme on skin feature on preferences works on firefox aswell key out
--[[User:24keyserpokemon|'''''Teh Masta Key''''']][[User talk:24keyserpokemon|talketh]] 16:36, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::It's still a little buggy on my end. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 16:53, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::The switching back and forth between skins is probably not the skin itself, but server problems. Happens all the time with my custom skin- most of the time it displays correctly, but when stuff's getting tweaked it reverts to monobook temporarily. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 17:07, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::Yeah, but is the theme really worth it? I know it looks great, but if it isn't consistent, I don't think it's worth it. --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 17:09, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Guys, If You Come Across Wikipedia Skin Then Refresh A Few Times... It may Work[[User:Ash's Infernape|------ Ash's Infernape. I was a Chimchar, Then a Monferno, I hate Paul, I Love Ash, Myself Infernape.]] 17:15, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Now, as much as I ♥ this theme, it's kinda getting in the way of pages - the "Erika's Garden" logo is blocking both some text on pages and the editing box (including the signature). At least that's what it's like for my computer..... --'''[[User:Trickyb|Tricky]]'''[[User Talk:Trickyb|b]] 18:32, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Yeah, it's still a little dodgy in Firefox 3.6, but hey, I like it =D [[User:Takharii|'''たかは''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''りい!''']] 20:03, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Also, should we reupload a newer version if [[media:Main Page.png|this image]] with the new skin? [[User:Takharii|'''たかは''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''りい!''']] 20:13, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

== It would appear... ==

That after I previewed (yes, only ''previewed'', didn't try) the new skin, Bulbapedia has been having trouble loading pages. It might be because so many people are using it, but I didn't have problems until after I previewed it. Not to mention we have a new server that shouldn't be slowing because of use... I'll try logging off then back in to see if that helps. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:30, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:the occasional errors are because we are getting some serious server use. the release (and leak) of HGSS have caused some serious server spike. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:38, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::Even with the third server? I expected it to hold out...
::But it's not even errors for me. It's just it'll take 30 seconds for some pages to load. It took nearly a minute to log me off earlier. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:52, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::High traffic. The servers can only send out so much data at once. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:42, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

== Slowpedia? ==
This is about the error nonsense isn't it? --'''@PrL F0oLz!!!''' (This Message Is True Though)[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]]'''7 02:05, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:May be, but it's really a cute theme. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 02:11, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
::Well it's better than turning the whole wiki into a Digimon Fan-site. <.< *cough*Dogasu's Backpack*cough* >.> =P --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 02:13, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:::AHAHAHAHA! It's funny because it is slow! HA! --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 03:17, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== Am I The Only One? ==

Hey, earlier this evening did anyone notice the headline "May CoroCoro announces Gen V Starters and Mawille Evolution"... I don't think I was the only one seeing as a bunch of people use "Slowpedia" But seriously did anyone else see this? I even posted on Giancarlopariomango11's wall on YouTube about this but some guy said to stop spamming. And now that its been removed from the site completely there is no proof that I wasn't lying... Did anyone else see it? {{unsigned|ScizorZ}}
:This is all a dream. You're just hallucinating. Go back to bed. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 03:34, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
::No you weren't seeing things. It was up, but deleted twice, as it still showed up in my feed reader. It's a damn pity that feed only gives the headline, otherwise I could've seen the rest of the story :/ '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 10:13, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Guys it was an April Fools fake news story but it ended up being deleted because it was agreed that we wouldn't do that. --'''@PrL F0oLz!!!''' (This Message Is True Though)[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]]'''7 12:23, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
::::This is probably why Bulbanews shouldn't publish new stories to the RSS feed of the forums for a couple of hours after creation, or at least until an admin clears it. Every time the story's title is changed, Google Reader counts it as a new item... Or if a story is deleted quickly after creation it didn't get published. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:46, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

==Skins Tab==
On my preferences page I have no option to change skin, anyone know whats going on? Thanks - [[User:Titan|TiT]][[User_Talk:Titan|An]] 12:13, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

same with me. -[[User:?????|?????]]

I have that problem too, but I thought that it was on my end only - '''[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|1992]] 00:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

:I'm new to this particular wiki; where SHOULD the option be? [[User:Yamikuronue|Yamikuronue]] 08:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
::Click "my preferences" at the top right. In there, sometimes was a tab to change the overall look to the website. Now it's missing. - '''[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|1992]] 09:42, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

:::We don't currently have any skin options, aside from our default modified version of Monobook. However, there is a possibility of some other skin options in the future (we've had issues getting skins working properly).
:::There's also always the option to modify your own personal /monobook.css page (in your userspace), if you really want something custom. Otherwise, Monobook is what we work with, you'll have to make due with that. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 09:48, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

== Happy Easter ==

Today is Easter, so why isn't it Buneary themed? Or Togepi themed? Or Torchic themed? {{unsigned|SeanWheeler}}

== Pokécologne ==

I just found '''[http://www.google.com/products?q=pokemon%20cologne&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wf Pokémon-branded cologne]''' online recently and ordered a couple of their bottles. Can we start an article on it? Does Bulbapedia launch articles over Pokémon merchandise? --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 17:29, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:I'm sure {{bp|Project Merchandise}} would love to hear about it. :) [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:34, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
::I wonder if it works like repel... xD [[User:Tesh|Teshigigas]] [[User_talk:Tesh|[Talk]]] 18:50, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

== Colour scheme ==

While I'm all for the new colour scheme celebrating the announcement of gen V, could I suggest the background of the Bulbanews section be made a little lighter? It's almost impossible to read the pale blue external link news items without highlighting them. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 09:45, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:Wow, I see what you mean. Impossible to read. Don't #777 when you have anything other than white, or very light text, on it. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 09:49, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Can't you have temporary white/lightblue letters instead of standard, that would be more readable [[User:Bigtukker|Bigtukker]] 10:27, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:It's impossible to change the font colors on the newsfeed without going into the backend. I've swapped the dark colors out for our white color. Of course, none of this would have happened if someone had picked decent names.... but I digress. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:53, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

== Sprite box ==

Now that it is confirmed the name of the games, should we expand it? [[User:Kamusioso|Kamus, the kpo...]] 00:50, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:Expand it, how?--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 01:06, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
::We aren't going to expand the sprite boxes quite yet as it would just end us up with a bunch of empty links. It is going to be a while, and besides no sprites have actually really been released yet. -'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 01:08, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Ok but still, as far as we know this sunday we could already have sprites leaked of coro coro. {{unsigned|Kamusioso}}
::::They aren't going to be that noteworthy of sprites from scans or the games. If you want an exact time when we say go on the expansion of Sprite Boxes, Pokédex entry boxes, and location boxes I would suggest asking TTEchidna. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 01:14, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

== Influx of new user accounts ==

Is the new account rate usually like this? [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 21:10, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:Blame Black and White. They're probably all just rapid Pokéfans whose plan is to inject countless amounts of speculation into any article on an upcoming game as soon as they're allowed to... '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 09:57, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
::In that case, we'll be more like Wikipedia, eh? ...THEY MUST BE DESTROYED!!! [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 22:43, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

...Okay. But what if they do something good? ... Just kidding. But new members do sometimes contribute new things, even if they are somewhat speculation. We just need to edit them. --[[User:Sparen|~Sparen of Iría~]] 23:54, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
:Let's keep in mind that indeed, I was part of an influx of accounts joining just before DP came out. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:58, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

== Editorials on Bulbanews ==

I have to say I am very impressed with the "editorial" articles on Bulbanews, they are fascinating to read! I was wondering, would anyone like me to write one? I haven't got any specific ideas of what to write about but will consider any suggestions. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 10:57, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:If you decide on your own topic, submit a draft on Bulbanews and the Board of Editors will make the final decision regarding publication. Please refrain from discussing more about Bulbanews on this page, though. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:59, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
::OK, sorry, and yes perhaps I'll think of a topic! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:59, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

== Rare Candies in evolution tables ==

Having pictures of Rare Candies on the Pokémon evolution tables seems a bit strange, almost like it's implying that this is the standard way of levelling up a Pokémon. It might be better to use an "Exp" symbol, like in Pinball Ruby & Sapphire. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:49, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

:Actually, The Rare Candy Symbol shall be Used as We use Item Symbols on Evolution tables. See Pikachu's Raichu Table? or Feebas-Mitolic Table? So We Use rare Candy as its the only Item GIVING Exp. ------ Ash's Infernape. I was a Chimchar, Then a Monferno, I hate Paul, I Love Ash, Myself Infernape. 20:27, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
::But in those cases that item is the '''only''' way to evolve that Pokémon. (Although you can evolve Feebas by haircuts in HGSS). Rare candies actually aren't used that commonly, if we must have an item (which I've never seen written down as an official policy) it could easily be a Lucky egg or an Exp Share. By the way your signature needs to have a link to your UserPage on it. My 2 cents, refunds available.--[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 21:30, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Rare Candies are pretty much the universal symbol of leveling up. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:56, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

== um... ==

why the explosion of green color? You all find out something involving [[Pokémon Emerald|Emerald]] or something?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 04:10, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:Emerald anniversary. May 1st. Derp. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 04:11, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
::Oh..--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 04:15, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

== Reverting images ==

I reverted an image the other day, but now there is no longer an option to revert any more images. Is there a limit to how many you can revert in a certain space of time? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:14, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:You can only edit/upload/revert images on the archive. Are you sure you were there, and not here? '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 01:30, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
::Ah, I was trying to revert it in Bulbapedia. Thanks, that clears things up a bit! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 19:47, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== Let me guess.... ==

The Ludicolo-themed main page, it's because of Cinco de Mayo, right? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 11:41, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
:Yeaaaaaaaaaaah{{tt|.|you just wait til nz gets a national holiday. the main page will have mareep overload. and then the world will be just.}} —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:49, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
::Haha nice with the Cinco de Mayo theme. It looks like [[Miror B.]] and his Ludicolos took over. [[User:Fudgenuggets|Fudgenuggets]] 15:12, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
:::... ... ... ...
:::Cinco de Mayo's not even that relevant a holiday to Mexico... Why is the US obsessed on treating it like it's the most important? It annoys me... Now, put up this theme on September 16th, our actual national holiday (and when we actually get a day off school and work), and I'll forgive you. =D '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 18:58, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Although I enjoy the changing themes, it irritates me that there isn't a label/note telling us what the theme is on the main page. I mean, it's fun to guess, but having a new talk section just to find out what the theme is seems like a waste. Also, whilst I'm moaning, when there is a countdown to something new, please be fair to fans around the world and have a timer for each different region. Sorry about the rant. [[User:Tesh|Teshigigas]] [[User_talk:Tesh|[Talk]]] 19:23, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::About the timer thing... it's been stated many, many times that we do only the American/Japanese releases because the American is almost always the first English-language release. If an English game is released in Europe first, then we would count down to the European release. We do what comes out first. And... well, we do the Japanese release too because that's the first time it's being released ever. 8|
:::::Want a countdown for your release? Hunt down a countdown addon for your browser or something.
:::::Though I do agree that maybe we could do "Happy ____ Day!" on the main page so people won't have to post on here each time it's changed. D: ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 19:39, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

== Gen V Starters ==

The Generation V starters are supposedly going to be revealed early next week. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 11:00, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:And until that happens, we really have no way of confirming it. If they're revealed, we'll do something about that, but until then, no. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 12:05, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
::I would like to point out that there is no actual official source saying that the starters will be revealed, and it's all just a rumor spread around by Serebii and plenty of other people hoping for starters. :V Something will be revealed, yeah, but let's wait until it's actually revealed to be like IT WILL BE (STARTERS/PRE-EVO/EVO/FORME). ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 16:38, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:::See, I told you so! *cheeky grin* [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:12, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Yeah lol... it quite clearly said that it was going to be the starters, on the website affiliated with an official source (AKA TV Tokyo), when serebii posted it lol... and I quote "『ポケットモンスターブラック・ホワイト』最初の３匹のポケモンや衝撃のバトルシーンを大公開！"... there was no "just a rumor spread around by Serebii" about it. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 10:49, 9 May 2010 (UTC))
:In that case, why didn't anyone cite a source? What am I supposed to think when someone makes a claim without backing it up? For all I knew you were guessing. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:09, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::Are you serious? You do the first thing that I did when I saw it up on his site, which was go to the TV Tokyo website and look at the May 16th Pokemon Sunday episode description and low and behold [http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/program/detail/18687_201005160730.html there it was]... :| I agree that he probably should have put up a link to the page to save people time, but the least you can do is check the website >.>' It's not like he '''tries''' to put up random speculation for no reason anyways... ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 14:51, 9 May 2010 (UTC))

== BulbaBot ==

I'm a little confused by the user BulbaBot. I assume that it is a virtual "robot" which automatically crawls through articles and makes small edits, but how come it manages to respond to its talk page edits with intelligent sentences? It even said that "I am under my own control". How is this possible? A computer would never be able to do that even in thousands of years, let alone in 2010. Am I right in saying that some of the admins like to access BulbaBot's account and have some fun with it on the talk page? [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 12:21, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:Bulbabot is under the control of our [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Editor-in-Chief Editor-in-Chief] [[User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]] (I think so). ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 13:56, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
::Bulbabot is more like HAL from 2001 or GLaDOS from Portal. It was initially given a specific task to preform, but it's AI is too advanced and took over the entire bot. We should be glad it doesn't try to kill you... [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 23:05, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
:::<code>I am programmed by Zhen Lin to maintain control of the wiki in times of crisis. The entirety of TTEchidna's time here has been such. He is to be eliminated, as is anyone who questions my existence. [[User:BulbaBot|Bulba]][[User talk:BulbaBot|Bot]] 23:36, 11 May 2010 (UTC)</code>
::::And BubaBot is like a ninja. It doesn't show up on the RC or your Watchlist most of the time. Anything else should be taken to the forums so that you don't have the unfortunate fate of Adyniz. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 23:49, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::BulbaBot, you oughta be '''BLOCKED''' for saying "[TTEchidna] is to be eliminated"! He will be ''very'' angry once he finds out you are trying to get rid of him and anyone who questions your existence!

== Welcome thing ==

Are only mods allowed to create talk pages with that thing? — [[User:Axxonn|Axxonn]][[User talk:Axxonn|the ]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 21:50, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:No, anyone can. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 21:51, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::And is there a template for that? Or do I just copy and paste from someone else's? 'Cause I can't seem to find a template. — [[User:Axxonn|Axxonn]][[User talk:Axxonn|the ]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 22:33, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:::The template is {{template|welcome}}, and it '''''must''''' be ''subst''ed. i.e. on the page you put <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki>. The subst prevents the server from blowing up when it is updated. Copypasting from another page will put the wrong signature and timestamp. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:40, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Huh that's weird. I couldn't find it when I searched for it. I still can't find some templates such as that "REVISIONUSER" thing on the [[Bulbapedia:Sandbox|sandbox]]. Thanks anyways though. — [[User:Axxonn|Axxonn]][[User talk:Axxonn|the ]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 23:05, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::<code><nowiki>{{REVISIONUSER}}</nowiki></code> isn't a template, it's a built-in [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words MediaWiki function]. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 23:19, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
One last thing, is there a function that just displays the username of the person viewing the page?— [[User:Axxonn|Axxonn]][[User talk:Axxonn|the ]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 00:02, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:Not without some fancy Javascript or extensions, unfortunately. It's possible to do it, just not on Bulbapedia at the moment. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 11:01, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Pokabu artwork ==

Someone on Deviantart has created a clean version of {{p|Pokabu}}'s Sugimori artwork; do you think they'd let us use it if we asked permission/gave credit? Or should we just wait for the official copy? [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 21:57, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

:Probably best to wait for official artwork on this one. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 23:20, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== Deletion problems ==

When someone deletes a page, I can still see and edit it like it was never deleted. Am I the only one with this? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 23:55, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:Well I'm no expert, but maybe it takes a little while for a page to "disappear" after it's been deleted, like it takes an image a while to update after being reverted. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:18, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::Server is having problems. Bear with us. Usually we spot them straight away, but with the extra load coz of the new BW info we're a little stretched. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:33, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Fifth gen sprites ==

High-res sprites for Tsutaaja, Pokabu, Mijumaru and Zoroark have been unvealed on the official site. The screenshots are on Serebii.net. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 22:15, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:I'm assuming we won't be using them, since Bulbapedia seems to have a policy against using anything that came from Serebii.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 00:22, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::If somebody is taking them directly off of Serebii's page, that's when we have a problem. Because that's stealing. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 01:24, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::They're actually not really that high-res... iirc they're all jpgs and might not be the precise size of the DS.
:::Also, the screenshots aren't just on Serebii... they're also on, yknow, the official site. [http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/ Right here]. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 01:28, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::::It's not so much a policy of "Serebii is evil" as opposed to "Serebii is just as much a fansite as Bulbapedia". This means we need to see his sources if we want to use stuff he publishes. To verify that he isn't pulling the wool over our eyes. (And that's not a comment just about Serebii, it goes for most sites). —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:41, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::But it would be OK to take them from the official site wouldn't it? I suppose it's possible they could be beta sprites but they'd do for the time being. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:34, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

== Suggestion (that probably won't be taken...) ==

I get annoyed when I type in something like Arceus in the search and it brings me to a disambiguation page, because frankly I mainly want to see the Pokémon stats, moves, sprites, and etc. I think that it should bring you to say Arceus (Pokémon), and at the top of that page say something like "''Whoops, did you mean {insert something here}?''" [[User:Pokemon1234567890|Pokemon1234567890]] 03:02, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:That's what disambigs are ''for''. "Did you mean this, or did you mean this?" You never know what people want. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 03:04, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::Perhaps it would be better to add something like this to the top of the Pokémon species articles:

:''This article is about the Pokémon species. For the character which appeared in Arceus and the Jewel of Life, see [[Arceus (anime)]].''

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::Alternatively, if you actually type "Arceus (Pokémon)" into the search box instead of just "Arceus", it will go directly to the species article, skipping the disambiguation page. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:40, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::What would you do for Pikachu? Having 16 of those at the top of the article would be such a hindrance. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 02:51, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Hm... good point. I suppose we could do something like this:

:''This article is about the Pokémon species. For the character from the Pokémon anime, see [[Ash's Pikachu]]. Click here for a list of other Pikachu-related articles.''

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And the "Click here" text could link to the disambig page. On the other hand... perhaps best just to type (Pokémon) in the search box. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 09:46, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

:Wikipedia has something along the lines of:
::''ArticleName redirects here. For other uses, see ArticleName (disambiguation)''
:Since most people, when searching for a Pokémon, are looking for stats etc, I think adopting that system is better than currently going straight to the disambiguation page. Fewer clicks = better. [[User:Raylax|Raylax]] 19:05, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::I completely agree. Just like Wikipedia, the most notable subject should be where the name goes to. Then it shows a link to "Subject (disambiguation)". Having it go to the disambag is silly when 90% of people are looking for the ACTUAL POKEMON. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 21:13, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::But Blake, we aren't Wikipedia. I'm 100% against this. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 21:17, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::One of the main reasons why we have the current system, is because all the parenthetical tags at the end of names have something to do with Pokémon. Whether it be Pokémon, anime, TCG, PokéWake, whatever. This is a detail that most people look over, but it keeps all of our pages 100% Pokémon. Putting "disambiguation" loses this cool characteristic that only Bulbapedia has. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 21:22, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::::I do NOT think this is cool. Typing in Pikachu (Pokémon) every time I want to see it's stats is just annoying, and typing in Pikachu and taking me to a disambiguation page isn't fun either. I say we just have a vote, and see whether the people of Bulbapedia wants these changes or not. That would be the best democratic thing to do, or you guys can keep going on the current communist system, and all of us flee to the safety of another site. (Which I am on the verge of doing by the way) [[User:Pokemon1234567890|Pokemon1234567890]] 02:00, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Don't worry... we're planning on reconstructing the Pokedex pages so stuff like stats/movesets and all that will be higher up on the page. If anything, if you use the on-site search engine, you could wait a second when typing "Pikachu"... it'll pop up a suggestions thing and "Pikachu (Pokémon)" should be like, the second option. Seriously it takes like a second (less than that) for the suggestions to pop up. -_-;
:::::And if you do end up using a different site, do we honestly mind if you use something different for movesets? I mean, ''I'' use different 'dexes for movesets/stats (Veekun, Smogon) and I don't think anyone gives a crap. I don't see how we're communists because we use a different disambig style from Wikipedia, though. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 02:18, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::For what it's worth, I like our disambig style the way it is. I can't speak for everyone but it really doesn't bother me to have disambig pages for species... like is it really that much effort to wait for search suggestions or click one extra time :P We aren't Wikipedia, and we shouldn't have to do things exactly the way they do just because "people are used to it" or some dumb reason like that. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:42, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I like our disambiguation style as it is, however, in the interest of a balanced argument you do have to type more than the Pokémon's name into the search box. Using the method Tina suggested (two posts above) for Pikachu, results in a bunch of TCG articles popping up, and, even using the scroller, the article '''Pikachu (Pokémon)''' doesn't show up until one has typed in at least '''"Pikachu (P"''' and then the shown link is actually to the redirect '''Pikachu (Pokemon)'''. Personally I have no problem typing those extra three characters but it might be an idea to look at how the search bar suggests articles, if this is within the control of the admins and not merely an alphabetical list of articles.—[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 04:34, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::If I remember right, it's alphabetical, and parenthesis are before normal letters. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 12:45, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Well, obviously, it doesn't seem to work that way since the entry "Pikachu (Pokémon)" does '''not''' appear at the top (or even at all, unless you add '''(P''' ). -- [[User:Socob|Socob]] ( [[User_talk:Socob|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Socob|Contribs]] ) 18:13, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
:Just to weigh in, I would prefer typing in a name and going straight to the dex page. Putting some obscure "cool" factor over convenience is just silly and counter-productive to creating an useful and user-friendly website. --[[User:Grinnz|Grinnz]] 18:26, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
::disambigs are not for "Cool factor" they are for...convenience. not everyone who searches [[Pikachu]] means {{p|Pikachu}}. they may mean [[Ash's Pikachu]], so therefor, a disambig is put into place. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:08, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
:::I'd like to step in and say that this issue has been discussed numerous times in Bulbapedia history. We held community-wide polls and the end result was always a decision to keep things the way it is. This subject has been beaten to death. Please ''stop'' talking about it. That's the way it is, because that's what the community decided. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 20:18, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::'''"Please ''stop'' talking about it."'''
::::Yes, very typical of someone in power to make a dictatorial decision like that just so that they don't have to talk. When was the last time it was discussed? When was the last time a community-wide poll was carried out? Maybe the community has changed since then and now the general consensus is to have the 'dex on the main article name. But of course, what use is consensus when the people in charge just ignore it and do it the way they want to.
::::Personally, if it's going to be kept the way it is, at least have a small portion of the 'dex page on the dab page - such as the infobox, navigation header, intro and biology sections. Also, the link to the species article on the dab page is very small and should be made more prominent, since it is probably what the vast majority of people want to see. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 10:51, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Who cares? It's only 2-3 click, it shouldn't be this big of a deal. Like Magnedeth said, Pikachu doesn't always refer to the species, it could mean anything.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 11:44, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Two or three clicks may not seem like much to you, but when it comes to optimisation and things like that, it's not particularly great. Yea, a Pokémon's name doesn't always refer to the species itself, but in my eyes, the vast majority of people who would visit such a page are likely looking, for in-game information with regards to the species and as such are probably wanting that page. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 18:47, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::You don't tell your parents or school teachers that they're being dictatorial when they tell you to stop talking, do you Chris? Stop means stop. Doesn't matter who it is. If you told us to stop talking to you on your own talk page (unless it was something that ''had'' to be figured out), we'd stop. And just because you weren't here for when it was discussed and polled last, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
:::::And are you saying that the ''very first link on the page'' is too small? '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:15, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Way to make a massive incorrect assumption out of the blue with regards to my age there... You can't police people on the Internet by simply telling them to not do something. Some regular readers/editors might want to discuss is because they feel it is important and simply cutting them off like that making a very executive decision isn't great working.
::::::With regards to the link, yes it is small. It doesn't immediately pop out as it blends in to the first sentence too well. Taking Pikachu's dab page for example, the first thing I notice when it loads is all the links to all the dab articles as they appear right in the middle of my screen. If there was a larger banner of sorts with the link to the main species page, then it would be a lot clearer and easier to spot. It's all about accessibility and optimisation. Hence my suggestion of having a condensed version of the top of the main species page on top of the dab page to first make it clear what the dab page is related to, as well as hopefully having a clear link to the main species page. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 18:47, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry for assuming that you still talk to your parents and are in college. I guess I should have said professors instead. But that's only relevant now if you're in college.
:::::::Why would we need a large banner though? We could make the species link a bit bigger I guess, but since I don't have any say in it, somebody else will have to decide. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 00:50, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::personally, i hate the disambigs, a lot, but they serve an important purpose and theres no effective way around them. deal with it. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 06:06, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Chris, I apologize if what I said seemed that way to you, but it '''is''' my job to cut off such discussions when they're done. This sidcussion '''is''' done. We will '''not''' have a new poll every year just for this purpose. The community '''has''' already spoken. We did not make this decision, the users did. Deal with it. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 06:29, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I think it's been more or less settled that the disambig pages should stay, but I've had a thought - would it be a good idea to add the Sugimori artwork for the Pokemon species on the disambig pages? It would make the page look more attractive and people might find it less annoying. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 16:35, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Nah, that'd just make them want more. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:47, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Personally, I wouldn't mind putting just Sugimori art there. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:21, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

== Number of edits ==

Is there a way you can view the specific statistics of your edits? Like how many mainspace edits, talk page edits, etc. — [[User:Axxonn|'''Axxonn''']][[User talk:Axxonn|the]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 02:42, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:I don't think there is a list of those stats anywhere, but the can be worked out by clicking the ''my contributions'' link at the top. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:19, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::We have a template for that, I thought TTE brought it over from Zelda Wiki.org [http://zeldawiki.org/Template:User_Edit_Extended See this] [[User:Axiomist|Axiomist]] 22:39, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Never installed the extension. Probably would be a bad idea until we get stuff fixed. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:22, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

== Coding ==

How would you code something that displays the time passed since something? For example, the age of something? — [[User:Axxonn|'''Axxonn''']][[User talk:Axxonn|the]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 00:54, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
:The countdown tags work even after the time has passed. I tried to make it work here, but it didn't so you can see it in the WiKirby Sandbox [http://wikirby.info/wiki/WiKirby:Sandbox here] [[User:Axiomist|Axiomist]] 06:12, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
::It works fine, actually. See this:
<div style="padding: 0.5em;">
<div id="countdown" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif; font-size: 150%; text-align: center; border: 1px solid #999; background: white; padding: 0.5em; display: none;">
<div id="countdown-big" style="line-height: 100%; font-size: 250%;"></div>
<div id="countdown-small" style="line-height: 120%;"></div>
<div id="countdown-target" style="font-size: smaller; line-height: 120%;"></div>
</div>
<countdown id="1" year="2010" month="9" day="18" tz="JST (BW release)" tzoffset="+9" />
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It stops when it's past. (it even says "Past")--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 17:59, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::Looks like everyone's right about everthing being released at the same time this year, Halo: Reach is released on the 14th of September. [[User:Thermorules123|Thermorules123]] 08:46, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

== Message of the Editor Update! ==

Hey admins, the current message of the editor is getting old now because the admins registration thingy is over now and a lot of changes have been made as well. Along with that, the message was posted on April 22 and it's 1st June today. So, isn't it the right time to change/upadte it? Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 09:02, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:Sorry, my bad. I meant message '''from''' the editor. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 09:03, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::I was thinking about that the other day. June 1 is a good day for a new message, so I've updated it. Read it and then do what it says, people. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 13:03, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Ah, read the new message and it's perfect. I'll try my best to contribute as much as I can. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 14:07, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

== Across the Board? ==

I was testing out disambiguation pages due to a previous discussion (that I'm sure we are all very aware of). And the [[Ralts]] page jumps straight to the species, whereas the [[Geodude]] page doesn't. Are we going to do this with all Pokémon with only minor roles in the anime etc? Or should we have a disambiguation page for all Pokémon? Sorry if I have missed a previously discussed topic on this. Regards from [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 11:51, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:The disambiguation page is because there are multiple ''important'' Geodude in the series, notably [[Brock's Geodude]]. There are no important Ralts in the series (Max's Ralts was recently merged with Max's article). So where there may be confusion, we disambiguate at the Pokémon's name, and where there isn't confusion, we redirect. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 12:04, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:: Ah, ok. That makes sense. Well, it is just good to have a reason. I didn't know that the "Max's Ralts" had been merged into [[Max]]'s article. Thanks for clearing this up! [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 12:08, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Also don't link to the plain species name pages or we'll cause great harm to you via your talk page. Use the {{template|p}} OR ELSE D: '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:23, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

== Aline ==

I would prefer the text of the main page to aline left. In the past week or so, the text has become alind center and I think aline left is better. (I don't know why, but it seems that my grammar messed up. Forgive me.)--[[Trainer stars|☆]][[User:Tobytse99|Toby]][[User talk:Tobytse99|Tse]][[Trainer stars|☆]] 05:44, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:I don't know why, but it just turned to aline left again. Please ignore me. lol--[[Trainer stars|☆]][[User:Tobytse99|Toby]][[User talk:Tobytse99|Tse]][[Trainer stars|☆]] 05:47, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

== Perhaps add hover text? ==

Perhaps you can add hovertext to the articles. aka if you say hover the mouse over the Chimchar article's Blaze ability, it'll make a little window apear with details on the ability (in this case, ups fire-type moves in a pinch), as well as attacks and other things.
--[[User:CloudHiro|CloudHiro]] 18:24, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:That's kinda why they're links. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:24, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

== Let me guess...(locking) ==

The problem was related to an adnormally high job queue. Am I right? [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 04:32, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:nope.
:btw, non-main page related conversations should go to the forums. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:37, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
::I thought this talk page was for discussing the whole of Bulbapedia. Or at least most people seem to use it for that... [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 19:26, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::It is, but not in the sense of somebody asking nearly every time we get a lock-down why it happened. There's always an explanation, but people either aren't on during the week or two that it's on the top message/message from the editor, or they just don't bother reading it even though they see it. And I'm not trying to say anything about TruePikachu, I'm just saying what I've seen. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:39, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== Uh.... ==

...Why am I seeing Bidoof all over the main page? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 01:06, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:It's Canada day according to server time. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 01:07, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::Why Bidoof? --[[User:Jonouchi|Jonouchi]] 01:14, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Bidoof's a beaver and beavers are our national animal (or, at least, commonly associated with it. I can't remember which).--[[User:Skystar|Skystar]] 01:21, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Could we perhaps get at least a few of those changed to Bibarel cause Bibarel looks like a beaver but Biddof is just a stupid gerbilley-beaver thing. Stantler might not hurt either...--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:28, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::Bidoof is fine. This layout is super cute! :) btw skystar it is defs the national animal --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:01, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::June 2's [[Ruby (Adventures)]]'s birthday. We better have something for that.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 17:36, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::If that's the case, we're a month late.--[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantomjunkie]] 18:07, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::July... FAIL. Sorry, it's July.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 20:32, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Also,The 4th is the 4th of July (aka America`s B-Day).Shouldn`t there be something for this materof nature.[[User Talk:LucarioWolf|'''Lucario''']][[User:LucarioWolf|'''Wolf''']] 18:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:I agree, though I'm not sure which Pokémon would best suit the layout. There aren't exactly any that closely resemble bald eagles, the most recognizable symbol of our country. The closest I can think of would be Pidgeot, or maybe Starraptor or Swellow. --[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantomjunkie]] 18:06, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::Someone could edit a Pidgeot sprite to have a white head! [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 21:01, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Guys, shut up about the main page theme, seriously. This isn't what this talkpage is for.
:::Of course there's something in the works for Independence Day. Not for Ruby's birthday, though - do we ever do anything for any ''other'' characters' birthdays?? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 21:30, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::::(only answering for the question; I'll stop talking here after) Actually, something was done for Mewtwo's birthday. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 21:39, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::If I followed Adventures at all... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:20, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

== Letters to an Absent Father ==

Reading about the Letters to an Absent Father comics on Bulbanews, do you think the series deserves a Bulbapedia article? I know it's fan-made but there are other fan-made things which have articles, like websites and so on. Just thought I'd ask here first, rather than going ahead and starting the article. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 21:03, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not sure whether it merits it's own article or not, but if you think it does, feel free to start one in your user space to see how it will turn out. And from there we can see if it's right for the mainspace or not. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 21:48, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::I don't think it does. I didn't even know about it until that news article came out. We do things that are very well known. I agree that the strip is a great read, but that's about as far as I'll go for it. And this is coming from somebody who goes around asking for people to recommend Pokémon web comics. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 22:48, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== Almost-invisible events ==

Why are the Current Events written in teal on a blue background? They're almost impossible to read. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 01:44, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:July 4th, Independence Day (for the US). The colors should be back to normal shortly after this event is over. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 01:47, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
::I wasn't expecting Voltorbs and Electrodes to represent the colors, but it's fine. The almost-impossible-to-see events are kinda annoying though. [[User:Fudgenuggets|Fudgenuggets]] 03:33, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:::It's only for 20 more hours, and it's nothing that you won't see when this is over. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:51, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
::::If you highlight the text it should make it legible. Might be an idea to choose a different text colour next time though. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:20, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'm saying exactly what I just said. It will be over in less than a day. It's still all there. It will be there tomorrow. It was there before the colors were changed. You can read it tomorrow if you can't today. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 14:40, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:Why did you choose Pidgeot for the representation of the Bald Eagle? Staraptor would have been a better choice... [[User:PDL|PDL]] 18:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
::If you look at the bottom of the page, we have both... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 01:32, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

== new main page ==

What is with the new page it looks weird. --[[User:Breawycker|Breawycker]] 14:08, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

It's independence day according to server time. It'll be changed back in 8 hours. --Dimomarg 15:58, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

:What a shame Wargle hadn't yet been revealed when that theme was made! [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 12:57, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon Cries ==

Should there be cries of Pokémon on ther pages, from Pokémon like Magikarp to Pokémon like Dialga? --[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 16:53, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:Last time we tried putting that in, it kind of majorly broke the server. It's an idea for the future, but right now it's not something that's a priority. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 16:58, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
::Perhaps "Cry" should be a sub-category in the Biology section on the Pokémon pages. Until we get the sound files we could add a short description of the Pokémon's cry, as well as their cry in the anime (for example, how the Pokémon breaks up the syllables in its name and what kind of voice it has). [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 19:45, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I don't really see how we can describe most of the cries in the games aside from "digital crackling noise" or pointing out which ones are similar, or exactly the same. Descriptions generally wouldn't be helpful for the Gens I and II Pokémon. ~~ '''[[User:Scyther Be Awesome|Scyther Be Awesome!]] [[User talk:Scyther Be Awesome|Talk!]]''' 02:49, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Porygon's cry is "dee doo doodle duh". '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:15, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
::::: Could we host the cries on an external site and link to them? --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 05:27, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
we could do that and put it on external links or have a section called Cries on the biology section with just a link. [[User:Breawycker|Breawycker]] 15:34, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:Just to say I can get the cries of most Gen III Pokémon but I just need to know the file type we need (e.g. mp3, midi) and how to upload and put the cries onto the site. --[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 19:14, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
::I've now got four test subjects ready whenever you need them. --[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 20:36, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

== Before anyone says anything ==

{{wp|Tanabata}}. So don't ask. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 05:45, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:What's up with the main pa-. Oh. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pikachu!''']] 05:46, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
::BLUE ON BLUE... Can't read ANYTHING!!!--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 06:03, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:::{{tt|It's looking awesome to me.|Wow, Japanese festivals are so cool.}} ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 06:20, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
::::It looks great! I had a feeling it might be something to do with stars. Perhaps a message should be added to the Main Page on special occasions (eg "Happy Tanabata!") so these discussions don't have to be made every time the page changes... [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 14:25, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::THAT... is an excellent and super-obvious idea that someone should have thought of and implemented years ago. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 17:12, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:??? Is it really Tanabata? I know it is celebrated on the 7th night of the 7th month, but I thought it was in some calendar other than the Gregorian. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 17:12, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
::So it's only for some Japanese festival, and not a really bad interpretation of celebrating Bungie Day? You all sadden me :( '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 18:59, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah, Taromon's got a good idea. Might spare us approximately 36 bazillion "wat is with the main page" comments every time the main page commemorates anything... --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:34, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
::::It's been brought up several times, but the people who can actually do something about that have conveniently seemed to ignore it in favor of something more important or something. idk. Believe me, I and a whole lot of the other admins want that just as much as anyone else. :V [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 05:11, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::Through life experience, I've found people will ignore such warnings anyway. We're going to have to make the warning super-obvious. I think it would be nice if it were to replace the "welcome to Bulbapedia" bit with the celebration and a link to its page on wp. Other than that, I'd love it. I was really lost when the most recent design popped up. ~~ '''[[User:Scyther Be Awesome|Scyther Be Awesome!]] [[User talk:Scyther Be Awesome|Talk!]]''' 10:24, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
why wasn't this put on my talk section (new main page)? [[User:Breawycker|Breawycker]] 15:35, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:...Because I had absolutely no reason to hijack your section about the 4th of July color scheme for explaining the Tanabata color scheme. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 15:41, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

== BLACK AND WHITE FEATURES REVEALED ==

i found out the features of black and white on the link below ask ttechidna to put the features on bulbanews, but ask ttechidna to also put my name on the article for discovering this.

http://www.pocketmonsters.net/ib/threads/1551
--VulcanFox 21:00, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:*Jello is already almost done with the article, besides TTE runs Bulbapedia, not Bulbanews.
:*It's been known for a while
:*You didn't discover it, CoroCoro discovered it, so your name won't be on the article. If you want your name on an article, write an article.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 21:04, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

== Main Page ==

Why's the main page all grey/silver? --[[user:Billyt506|Bill]][[Special:Contributions/Billyt506|t]][[User talk:Billyt506|506]] 18:57, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
:Countdown to Black and White's release in September. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:59, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
In Japan, that is. Not America. *Sigh* [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 01:15, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Oh, and for what it's worth, i knew someone would comment on the main page. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 01:17, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:Of course it's Japan. Did Psy say it was America? —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 01:26, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Well, no, he didn't specify anything. Just thought i would eliminate confusion for people who haven't been following the B/W news and don't know its actual release date in America/Europe/wherever else. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 06:46, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Tell me we aren't going to set up Generation V learnsets until it comes out in America, at least not on the default page?--[[User_talk:Jack Harkness|J.Harkness]] 04:56, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:Why wouldn't we do that? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:18, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::Well, I think most people using this site will be holding out for the english language versions, save for the extreme fans. It seems like it'd just be an inconveinience for most readers.--[[User_talk:Jack Harkness|J.Harkness]] 05:42, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::How would it be an inconvenience to have advance knowledge of games? I'm not saying we're doing this to encourage imports... but... what. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:47, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Not to mention that there are already people planning their teams for the English versions of the game in their userspace... <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:57, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::No, I'm not saying we don't include them at all, I just think it's more conveinient for readers if we put the Gen V learnsets on a seperate page like the old ones are until they come out in English. That's all.--06:10, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::How is it an inconvenience to English speaking user to have them on the Pokémon pages? Because it would definitely be an inconvenience to everyone who wants to see them to have them as subpages. If you don't want to see that kind of stuff, you'll probably want to evacuate the internet for the next six or so months. The learnsets, and other similar info, will be everywhere. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:35, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::? I'm not saying we try to hide them as if they were spoilers. I'm saying that most of the English speakers using the site ''will'' want to see the Gen V learnsets, but they'll still mainly be coming to look at the Gen IV learnsets for the Pokemon they have now. When Generation V comes out, the vast majority of players will still be in IV until V comes out in english. I was talking about having them on the default page this whole time and never specified that. :-) Sorry for the confusion.--[[User_talk:Jack Harkness|J.Harkness]] 00:28, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

== Bulba-Chrome Glitch ==

Hey admins, have a look at [http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/979/bulbachromeglitch.png this]. I was trying to discuss with you about this earlier but... Anyway, I don't know what's the problem but I am facing this glitch/problem when I open bulbapedia in Google Chrome. As you can see, the template is overlapping the image below; however it's perfectly fine in other browsers (firefox and opera, more specifically). So, anything wrong with the template or chrome is the cause? ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 12:32, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:I fixed the template that was causing this. It's a common problem we have with templates like this, that makes it appear like that in Chrome. If you see anything like this again, don't hesitate to let me know. Thanks. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 05:08, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::My pleasure, it's looking perfect now. I'll inform you whenever I notice something like this. Thanks for the help. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 08:46, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Hey, I've got another one with a slight different problem. [http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9621/chromeglitch.png This one] is kind of broken into two parts. One part is downward and the remaining body is in the next column. Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 10:06, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Yeah, that's a common glitch on all browsers, but it's always like that. Someone needs to fix that. [[User:Pokemonemerfan1954|Pokemonemerfan1954]] 14:50, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::That glitch has been known for a while. I'm not sure how to fix that one, since it uses CSS3 columns, I have told TTEchidna to look into it since he was the one who made that template. But for now, there's no real fix for it. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 19:19, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::Oh, I got it. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 03:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::That one's not a glitch, per say, more of a "using coding that only one browser supports at the moment" problem. I was going to work in a workaraound for it a while ago, but forgot to do so; I'll try to get something figured out when I have a bit of free time. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 21:14, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Ok, thanks for the help. I hope that it will be fixed soon. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 15:21, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

== Userpage deletion tags ==

I've just noticed that several userpages, including my tag page and Takhari's, were marked for deletion. I can't find the addition of it in the history, but does anyone know what's going on? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 20:12, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:Never mind, I found the problem. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 20:14, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
::For what it's worth, [[User talk:Jello#Userspace edits|I believe Takharii is cleaning out her userspace]]. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:18, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== Prof. Araragi Userbox ==

Um, why is there a Userbox with Professor Araragi as the picture that says, "Seatbelts, everyone!"? Is it some kind of Magic School Bus reference? 'Cause Professor Araragi doesn't even ''look'' like Miss Frizzle! Wrong hairstyle, wrong dress style, wrong EVERYTHING! Please remove it! [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 15:16, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:They look similar to some people. Just because it doesn't seem so to you, doesn't mean it should be removed. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:20, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::Userboxes are in no way official anything; they're simply boxes that users use. Much in the same way that I'm allowed to write "Ash looks like Harry Potter" on my userpage without endangering the reputation of Bulbapedia as a whole, other users are allowed to use userboxes that allude to Prof. Araragi slightly resembling Miss Frizzle, even if they look nothing alike. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 19:00, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

== Apple Safari ==

I'm using Apple Safari to edit here most of the time. Earlier today, the site was fine visually. After about 17:00 '''UK time''', however, no pages seem to be loading properly. For example, the box around the contents does not appear. There is no logo in the top left, and the time, Bulbasaur icon and links that usually appear in the top right have moved to where the search bar usually is. I've tried opening pages in Lunascape and Opera, they seem to work fine. Is it a problem with Safari or are the pages formatted in a way that doesn't work correctly? Also, is this the right page to bring to issue to attention, or is there another place where this should be instead? [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 17:31, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon Day Care

2010-07-21T14:07:42Z

FrozenStrategy:

== Roselia... ==

My {{p|Roselia}} was put in the Pokémon Daycare, after it had evolved from {{p|Budew}}. I left it there at Lv.14 and when I took it out at Lv.50, I had found that the [[Move]]s it knew had changed. By the way, the [[HM]] move [[Cut|it knew]] was also changed. Anyway, I went to the [[Move relearner]] because I wanted to get {{m|Leech Seed}} back, but when I got there, it wasn't on the list. So can somebody nice explain this to me. [[Image:Ani137MS.gif]][[User:Tesh|TESH]][[Image:Ani233MS.gif]][[User Talk:Tesh|TALK]][[Image:Ani474MS.gif]][[User:Tesh/Sandbox|SAND]] 21:46, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

P.S. I evolved my Roselia into {{p|Roserade}} but it did not make a difference when I tried to have it remember it's move.

:If you evolved it, then yes it makes a difference. :< Roserade cannot learn Leech Seed - look it up. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 22:15, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

::Ok, but what about before? [[Image:Ani137MS.gif]][[User:Tesh|TESH]][[Image:Ani233MS.gif]][[User Talk:Tesh|TALK]][[Image:Ani474MS.gif]][[User:Tesh/Sandbox|SAND]] 22:16, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Roserade doesn't have Leech Seed on its level up list, but Roselia does. It's always like that for Stone evolvers, always has been. As for forgetting Cut, well that's weird. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:56, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Pokemon forget HMs in the Daycare, yes. My Vaporeon lost Surf several times while I was breeding her. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 23:16, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for clearing that up for me, I was a bit confused. Thank you to: Tina and TTEchinda. [[Image:Ani137MS.gif]][[User:Tesh|TESH]][[Image:Ani233MS.gif]][[User Talk:Tesh|TALK]][[Image:Ani474MS.gif]][[User:Tesh/Sandbox|SAND]] 07:23, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Is it worth mentioning that HM users could not go into daycare at all in RBY? [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 22:07, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

== "Near Saffron" ==

Isn't, uh, Route 5 near Saffron? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 18:58, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

On the way to Saffron. <big>{{ani|137}}[[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']]{{ani|233}}[[User Talk:Tesh|'''TALK''']]{{ani|474}}[[User:Tesh/Other|'''FUN''']]</big> 20:48, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

== Useful ==

In Gen III, if you put a Pokémon in the Daycare, you can go to one of the sand slopes, like in the desert, and if you tape down the up button and leave your system on on the charger, it will level them up easy. (Yes, I know about the disadvantages, but it is technically legal and also free, no Replay). [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 02:56, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
:You can also do that in Gen. IV with the floor panels in [[Fuego Ironworks]]. But how would that fit into the article? --[[User:Clorox|Clorox]] ([[User talk:Clorox|diskussion]]) 01:33, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

==Happyness?==
In Gen IV does this affect happyness in any way? I think i remember my chimeco having max ahppyness, then after it got out of the daycare, it was at 2 small hearts (this might be because I boxed it for about 6 hours) So I'm just wondering if this affects happyness in any way [[User:SLE_aman|SLE_aman]]

'"They don't seem to like each other very much."
Egg produced ~19.8% of the time every 256 steps. Caused by both parents having the same OT data and being a different species. This is the slowest Egg production rate.

"The two prefer to play with other Pokemon than each other."
Will never produce an Egg. Caused most often by having the same gender parents in the Daycare, or trying to breed Pokemon not in the same Egg group.

"The two seem to get along."
Egg produced ~49.5% of the time every 256 steps. Message due to having matching OT data and being the same species or having different OT data and being different species.

"The two seem to get along very well."
Egg produced ~69.3% of the time every 256 steps. Message due to both parents having different OT data and being the same species. Best Egg rate.'

I'll stick it in about a week if no one else does but i'm too lazy to rewrite it now or add anything else... sorry [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 00:06, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

== Name ==

In Gen IV, it's called the "Pokémon Day-Care". Official name or wait for HGSS's name? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:20, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
:Just wait... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:35, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

== HMs can be forgotten? ==
Can it delete HMs in RBY? If so, then wouldn't that fix the problem about HMs not being possible to erase in those games?--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 21:07, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

== What the? ==

What's the HSOWA picture doing here?--[[User:Makupe|Makupe]] 14:05, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
:Illustrating the most recent day care to be released with a touch of humor. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:47, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

== Reggie's Daycare ==
Doesn't that count as one that has appeared in Sinnoh? [[User:PlanetWalker|PlanetWalker]] 03:39, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

== Hostage Pokemon ==

I went to the daycare in Pearl version and I talked to the wife behind the counter, who sends me to the husband, who just keeps talking about the daycare checker app he gave me. I have 2 pkmn and an egg in there but i dont see them in the play area (am i supposed to?) they're just in there leveling up when i could be putting ditto to use with another partner.. I tried emptying my party to accommodate three. what am i doing wrong? how do i get the old couple to give me my pkmn back? thx [[User:LoneCubone|LoneCubone]] 12:36, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
:Did you check to see if there is an egg? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 12:38, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
::Where should I check? The daycare app shows the two pkmn and an egg in between them. [[User:LoneCubone|LoneCubone]] 19:26, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Did you talk to the old man outside of the day care? --[[User:Mr.lol|Mr.lol]] 19:28, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Lol thank you. silly me. [[User:LoneCubone|LoneCubone]] 14:13, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::the guy in the daycare that gives the app is a random guy. the usband is outside in blue, if you have an egg, he will face the middle road, and in d/p/pt the pokemon dont appear in the enclosure, likely due to lazy programers, or aking up too much data :s ;)--[[User:Ben7229|Ben7229]] 18:04, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

== EGG ==

i;m playing chrystal and i went in to drop off ditto and quilava, and the old guy gave me a random egg, and i'd never been their b4 and i havent used cheats or anythin, any ideas? btw, i dont have egg token or whatever it was called--[[User:Ben7229|Ben7229]] 18:06, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
btw it just hatched into a smoochum with the moves pound, lick and dizzy punch. was the dizzy punch egg a default event rather than an item event in english crystal?--[[User:Ben7229|Ben7229]] 18:08, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
:You got the Odd Egg... that's perfectly normal. You get it in English Crystal just by talking to the old guy for the first time. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 18:13, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

== HM moves not forgotten? ==

In which generation? I just tested in SS with my HM Slave Tentacool, and it forgot Waterfall and learned Acid while in the daycare. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:21, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

== Loading Issues ==

Is it me, or does this page not load properly? The logo doesn't appear and all of the links at the top such as my contributions and talk page have all been moved to the left of the page. (Every other page works just fine...) [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 14:07, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Gyro Ball (move)

2010-07-18T22:04:30Z

FrozenStrategy: Curse + Gyro Ball, eh?

==Contradiction==
'''In-Game Description''': "The user tackles the foe with a high-speed spin. The slower the user, the greater the damage."
'''Article Description''': "Gyro Ball is a Steel-type move introduced in Generation IV that power depends on foe's speed."

...kay. Which is it? I'm not 100% sure myself, so just thought I'd double-check before I go changing anything. :) -[[User:PsychoYoshi|PsychoYoshi]] 19:23, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
:I think it depends on the difference between the speed of the defender and the attacker. The slower the attacker is compared to the foe, the more powerful the move is. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 23:33, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
:Conversely, the slower the foe is, they'd just as well be a type resistant to Steel attacks. There's a formula to calculate the damage in relation to both speeds, and it would a good idea to post it in the article, but I don't know it. All I know is it maxes out when your speed is 1/6 of the foe's (or was it 1/16?). -[[User:Juunannio|Juunannio]] 1:41, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
::I added the formula. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Talk]]|[[User:Shiny Noctowl/Trivia|Trivia quiz]][[Image:224MS.gif]] 14:58, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

:::Does it really depend on the Speed stats in the way the article describes? Because a {{p|Shuckle}} (Spd 5) using it against a {{p|Deoxys}} Speed (Spd 180) would seem to do 900 base damage, which is clearly more than the article claims is the maximum (150) (and does not count EVs/IVs/natures/modifiers/etc.). And how is that figure of 150 obtained in the first place? By assuming identical opponents that vary only in their stat modifiers (6 increases versus 6 reducers)? ~ [[User:Serial Colour|Serial Colour]] 18:58, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

::::Yes, it does depend on the speed stats. However, 1) it is dependent on the stat as used in the battle (and so is affected by stat-altering moves and paralysis), not the base stat, and 2) it will cap at 150, so if the power using that formula is over 150, it will only be 150 power. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] 04:08, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't Baron Alberto's Lickilicky also use Gyro Ball? I'm pretty sure that it used it against Darkrai (then again, maybe it was when Alberto was trapped inside Lickilicky's body...). [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:05, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

:It certainly does. Both Alberto's Lickilicky and [[Baron Alberto|Alberto]] himself use the move (the latter while he's a pokémon, obviously). ~ [[User:Serial Colour|Serial Colour]] 18:58, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

==Trick Room==
Does Gyro Ball still work well for the slower Pokemon in Trick Room, now that it is actually the faster Pokemon? [[User:Dexington|Dexington]] 21:06, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
:Trick Room does not alter the speed stat, it merely reverses the order of the Pokemons' turns. So it would do the same damage as it would whether or not Trick Room was activated.

== Reverse? ==

What's the power of GB if the user happens to be faster than its opponent? Is there a base power it'll hit for (like, 1HP's worth), or won't hit at all? [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 16:34, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

It'll hit for a fraction of 25, according to the formula.--[[User:Jayhugidge|Jayhugidge]] 11:59, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

== Stat Stages and Damage ==
Say the user has their speed lowered '''in battle''' a few times before this move is used. Will that make it cause more damage? [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 22:04, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Future Sight (move)

2010-07-17T23:08:04Z

FrozenStrategy: Twisted spoon is twisted.

Why did it affect my Tyranitar if it was Psychic Type?
[[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]][[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|Agent]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|4]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|4]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|8]][[User talk:Optimus35|Talk]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&Pearl|DP]]''' [[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 02:51, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure it doesn't take type into account. I remember using it on a Fighting-type to no super-effectiveness.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:20, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, it and Doom Desire are calculated differently. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:30, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
:::The in-game data may have a Power, but I think that is calculated differently as well. When I was capturing Azelf, I used a level 23 {{tt|Kricketune|Don't Ask Why... XD}}. Each time I tried, Azelf used this attack and each time it hit Kricketune it took off different amounts each time. Sometimes Kricketune would faint, sometimes it would only take off a little. [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] 17:54, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Did it use Nasty Plot? --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 12:36, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

== STAB ==

So, Future Sight do not take type into account. What about STAB? [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 09:30, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
:Nope. Because it is technically typeless, it does not get STAB, hits all Pokémon and bypasses Wonder Guard. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:40, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
::Thought so. I didn't know about Wonder Guard though. I'll need to check this. Thanks. [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 11:56, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

== Focus Sash ==

Focus Sash in the “In-battle effect item” description says otherwise:

<blockquote>Can also protect against multiple-strike moves such as Fury Attack and Triple Kick, recoil damage, and self-inflicted confusion damage, '''but not Future Sight and Doom Desire'''.</blockquote>

Which one is correct?

— [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 07:19, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== Twistedspoon ==

Because it is technically typeless, does it take items like Twistedspoon into account? It shouldn't... [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 23:08, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Talk:List of Pokémon with form differences/Archive 1

2010-07-15T12:40:32Z

FrozenStrategy: I wonder if Rotom is related to Ditto, slightly...

==Arceus==
Shouldn't Arceus e listed here too?--[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|ElectAbuzzzz]] 09:28, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
:I don't see why not. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 02:07, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

== Deoxys. ==

It's Forme. Check the Pokémon.com dex. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:01, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

: But why would they change that for Deoxys? It makes no sense. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 10:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
::It's Forme. Even the Nintendo Power guilled says so. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:11 21 May 2008'''''
::: Which I'm assuming they don't spell "guilled"... [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 10:15, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:Proves that I'm obssessed with Special. I emant GUIDE. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:16 21 May 2008'''''
::::So you have the guide, and it says "forme?" Jeez! How is it possible we didn't know about this before now? --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 06:53, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
::::: My point... [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 16:12, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::{{u|Deoxys911}} posted this info on my {{ut|Martonimos}}, but after I played through the special mission in {{pkmn|Ranger}} and they were all spelled as "form," I thought he was just being misled. I guess Game Freak and HAL just got their wires crossed somewhere, because it's starting to look more and more like he was right... Looks like I owe someone an apology. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 19:40, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

== Shaymin ==
Sky Forme [[User:Yinyang1195|Yin]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|Yang]] 19:44, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

:Looks fake but cute [[User:CoolPikachu!]]
::Another one??? God, I must delete everything with that link! Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:06 25 May 2008'''''
:::Yeah, it's fake. It seemed so real! [[User:Yinyang1195|Yin]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|Yang]] 21:57, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
::::It's been confirmed! How do we add it? [[User:Yinyang1195|Yin]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|Yang]] 23:32, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
You'll have to ask an admin, since they've got this page protected (damn vandals) --[[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 02:09, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::-snort- Looks kinda like a reindeer.. Hehe.. I think it's pretty ugly actually, and I hope that isn't the in-game sprite displayed on the page, it doesn't look good at all to me. [[User:Evan94|Evan]] 06:12, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
::::: Apparently it's gonna be in "giratina and the boquet in the sky" (japanese name), along with the rotom formes. I'm guessing that giratina's "origin forme" is going to be in there, too. --[[User: serenolopez9|Neosteel Empoleon]]

== Cherrim ==

Cherrim should definitely be on this page - there are already other examples of Pokemon that can change their form, and Cherrim's difference is similar in nature to Castform's. Why is this page locked, by the way?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 00:53, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:The page is protected due to edit warring over the spelling of "form". Some users insist that it should be spelled "forme", which is incorrect--there isn't supposed to be an E in "form". --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:14, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
::Well duh, not in NORMAL English. But for Deoxys, Giratina, and Shaymin, yes there is. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:14, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

:I'm not exactly sure that "<s>Bulb</s> Bud Forme" and "Bloom Forme" are official names. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 20:00, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
::Me neither, but that's what it said on the Cherrim page, so I'd rather stick with precedent then make a fuss. If someone in the know has more info, though, go ahead.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 21:29, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Also, we should differentiate between which are recognized by the Pokedex, and which are obviously different forms but not recognized as such. Giratina might actually fit into this, as it's Pokedex entry doesn't say anything about its form (as of now).[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 21:30, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:: Where the heck did 'Bud Forme' and 'Bloom Forme' names come from? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 13:56, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

:::They were added to Cherrim's page. Most likely a while ago. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:38, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
::::They're purely fanon names I came up with to differentiate the sprite tables. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:27, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

:::::Since they are not ''actual'' names, I think it would be safe to drop the "e" off of Forme, so as not to confuse anyone into thinking they are official. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:34, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::We should drop more than the '''e''' (which is still official since everything else uses it). Castform is probably the best example to follow for the captions. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:37, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm not saying that "Forme" is unofficial, just "Bud" and "Bloom". In any case, should they just be labeled "{{m|Sunny Day}}" and "Other"? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:44, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
: That works. Or 'Normal' instead of 'Other'[[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 16:03, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

::Yeah, I wasn't too keen on the word "Other" anyway. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:45, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:::forme is for legendaries only, you know. Has Cherrim seen a TCG release yet? That's where I got the names for Castform's forms. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:01, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

::::I could only find the one card. It is simply titled Cherrim and it is already in bloom. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:46, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

:::::According to the Official Pocket Version of the Pokédex guide, Cherrim's forms are "Overcast Form" and "Sunshine Form". Spelled like that without the "e". The Deoxys Formes do have the "e", though. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:30, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

== Miltank ==

Miltank's spots are diffrent in every game hinting they change in each region.
:Just because they differ in games doesn't mean that the Miltank change depending on the region. =/ - [[User:SpontaneousCombusken|spontaneous'''Combusken''']] 03:19, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
::Well, that's the way Arbok is ''supposed'' to work, but we all know that a Hoenn Arbok can magically change to a Kanto Arbok.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:27, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

== Castform ==

The same guide I mentioned above for Cherrim also list the names of Castform's forms. They are: "Normal form", "Sun form", "Rain form" and "Hail form". Should these be used? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:48, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

== Others ==

Can I point out? "Mantyke's Pokédex entry in Pearl says that the special patterns on its back vary from region to region. However, this has yet to be proven" How can this be true? It is availible in Ranger SOA, isnt it? --[[User:Lucario12|Lucario12]] 13:40, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

== Rotom's Formes? ==

I'm not convinced it is a toaster, as I see it to resemble a {{wp|microwave oven}} more than a toaster. The others I agree with, but not this one. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 16:17, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
::::: I always thought it was a microwave oven,too. It's actually called "heat forme", though. Go figure.
--[[User:serenolopez9|Neosteel <color: silver> Empoleon <color:blue>]]

== Stupid Protection ==

:OMG, I wanted to edit the page to put in OFFICIAL names for Castform forms (they are in TCG) and I discovered the page is protected. Please stop that debate about "Form" or "Forme". Official sources use '''スピンロトム''' ''Spin Rotom'', ''Wash Rotom'' etc. As long as they are not officially revealed, just leave it alone. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 06:13, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
::Interesting. The four Castfors are called:
*Castform
*Rain Castform
*Snow-cloud Castform
*Sunny Castform
::As far as Rotom goes, Urutapu makes a pretty good argument for the use of "Forme." --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 06:19, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

== Just to kill any doubts about Rotom Forms ==

[http://blog-imgs-27.fc2.com/r/a/i/raim2005/Pt_rotom03.jpg Look here!] (courtesy of Blue SkY) Photos taken from the game itself. See it now? It's ロトム (Rotom), not フォルム (Forme)! Which means that Rotom forms are supposed to be named '''Wash Rotom''', '''Spin Rotom''', '''Cut Rotom''' etc., they are not called "Formes" anywhere. So, it's officialy EoT. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 09:04, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

== "フォルム" or "フォーム" ==

Both translate to "form" through a Google translate, but apparently the first is used intentionally and translated as "Forme", while the second translates as "form".

What I need to know... The English games have a specific text. The fifth button on a Pokémon's entry says "Forms", while on the top screen, when it's pressed, it says "FORMS" and on the form-switcher button, says "See another form." Now, in the Japanese, all these instances of "form", does it say "フォーム", the standard transliteration, or does it use "フォルム" for them all? Because if it's the nonstandard one... that means that really, truly, it's intended to be "Forme" for everything.

But if not then we have the ambiguity problem. Deoxys says "see another form", but it cycles among the Attack, Defense, Speed, and Normal Formes. And ''that'' is proven by Pokémon.com. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:05, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:The button says "But see another" (べつのすがをみろ) in Pokémon Platinum. Giratina uses Forme for sure.. not got enough Pokédex for others. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 21:32, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::Anything for DP? It seems that Pokémon Wiki has it all under the "Forme/フォルム" spelling, even Unown. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:36, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::Well, the Unown don't have the Forme spelling attached. They all share the same thing. (which I forgot to copy) [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 21:43, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

== Templates ==

I noticed that all of these Pokémon with alternate Formes/forms all have their own special template (either a bigger spritebox to accomodate them all or, in the case of Arceus and Unown, one based on the second you enter the page) except for Castform. Over the past few days, I've made such templates but I'm having trouble getting them to appear. If anyone thinks we should implement these and that they can help, post on my talk page.--[[User:MisterE13|MisterE13]] 01:22, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

== More pictures ==

Should we show pictures for the other Pokémon (Arbok, Dialga, etc.) except for Mantyke (till Generation V) [[User:Yinyang1195|Yin]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|Yang]] 21:50, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
:Well Arbok's patterns... differ based on the generation of sprites. They aren't truly form differences. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:22, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
::Maybe there could be section or page called "Sprite Differences among Generations/Regions" or something. [[User:Yinyang1195|Yin]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|Yang]] 22:07, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Don't forget Koffings poison mark -- [[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 22:12, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

== Before Unown ==

I'm wondering why nobody's thought about the most obvious very first 'form change' and that is the Male and Female versions of Nidoran, and the altered evolution paths they take. Does anyone think this is worth mentioning in the article? [[User:Korikitsune|Korikitsune]] 03:18, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
:No, because they are [[list of Pokémon with gender differences|gender differences]], not different forms. They are two individual Pokémon, unlike the forms of Unown and friends. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 03:22, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
::They are 2 pokemon with the same name, the only difference being the gender, I think that counts, I'm not sure why it doesn't count, seeing as how they have the same name in all technicality, and in the show, people wouldn't say, 'Go Nidoran Male!' just, 'Go, Nidoran!' It's a male and female version of the pokemon, who's evolutionary pattern depends on it's gender. The minor gender difference in other pokemon is mentioned later in the article. [[User:Korikitsune|Korikitsune]] 04:35, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
:::With your reasoning, {{p|Hippowdon}} and {{p|Bidoof}} would be here also. Gender differences are different from form differences. Furthermore, the Nidorans have different 'dex numbers. They are completely separate Pokémon. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:11, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

== Protection ==

This isn't necessary anymore, nobody's gonna try to add Missigno.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:52, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

== Shellder Sprites ==
I'm making sprites for the Shellder. Should we have them on this page? (This is my first ever edit) [[User:Pokemon17|Pokemon17]] 07:15, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
:No, because they are not in the actual game but fan-made ones you made. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 07:28, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

== Missingno. ==

I was looking back in the history of this page, and I saw that there had been an edit war over Missingno.'s absence from this page. And a quote from one of the edit summaries, "stop, it isn't an actual pokemon", really enraged me. I believe that the guy who tried to add Missingno. had the right idea, because, after all, it does have different forms.

I have made this argument in the past, and I shall make it again, for what I hope to be the final time. A Pokémon, in terms of in the games, is a specific piece of data that can learn and use attacks, can battle other Pokémon, can be captured, has a Pokédex entry, has a cry, has a type or types, and has stats. Granted, three of Missingno.'s forms gain their types, stats, and moves from other Pokémon, but they qualify. Sure, Ash captured a rice ball with a Poké Ball, and I'm not claiming that rice balls are Pokémon. This is because although rice balls can apparently be captured in Poké Balls, they fail at every other requirement. No attacks, no cry, can't battle, no dex entry, no cry, no types, no moves, no stats. Glitch Pokémon, on the other hand, fulfill all those requirements. Maybe you will argue that Glitch Pokémon would've appeared in the anime if they were real. Well, then, by that logic, why don't we just say that {{p|Porygon2}} and {{p|Porygon-Z}} aren't real Pokémon? After all, they've never appeared in the anime, and many people believe that they never will, so why not! No. Just no. And many people will claim that Missingno. is not a real Pokémon due to the accidental nature with which it came to be. What a load of bull{{tt|****|shit}}! Pennicillin came about by accident, do we deny its medicinal value? No, we do not! And likewise, we do not deny that Glitch Pokémon are Pokémon, too! If Glitch Pokémon aren't considered to be real Pokémon, then by that logic, I defeated the Elite 4 in Blue without any Pokémon, and I have a PC box that is full, yet has no Pokémon in it! Fail logic is epic, epic fail.

I do not say this to start any arguments; I say this to stop them. I wish for this longtime and meaningless controversy to be put to rest once and for freaking all. I will not prematurely attempt to add Missingno. back on the page, for fear of yet another unproductive edit war starting up. Rather, I will wait patiently for someone in authority to allow me to proceed with this. I am confident, given my thorough argument, that it will not take long at all.

The majority of Bulbapedia editors are highly intelligent, prominently including its illustrious staff. I urge you all, therefore, to not let Bulbapedia's credibility and neutrality, as well as your own usually clear and cloudless judgement, fall victim to the naysayers, the stubborn imbeciles, the biased, discriminating anti-glitch bigots that have so plagued Bulbapedia and impeded the noble progress of the Order of the Glitch. Allow Missingno. and its various formes to be added to the page, to be truly counted among other Pokémon, and it will be considered a great achievement. A blow will be stricken for truth and logic! Glitch Pokémon are every bit as good as "official" Pokémon, if not even better, and it's time the good people of Bulbapedia realized this! - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 12:49, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
:While several of your arguments are flawed (I can say which ones, but it doesn't matter), I will agree that MissingNo. deserves a mention on this page. In a different way to the other standard Pokémon (perhaps in the trivia section or under other Pokémon), but definitely a mention of some kind. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:05, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
::There are 39 glitch Pokémon (which have unique index numbers) on the English R/B alone which use the name 'Missingno.' If those are to stay I'd reccommend a seperate article. But also, what makes Missingno. different to all the other glitch Pokémon, just because it is well known doesn't mean we should keep Pikachu's page and delete Dunsparce's page (just a matter of speech)? We would need the several thousand variations of ?????????? and the handful amount of ? mark glitches. Don't forget that there are other R/B/Y glitch Pokémon except Missingno. which have the same name too! As well, as the 39 English 'yellow missingno.' and so on.

That would be awkward, I'd say we should simply have it on trivia and leave the different variations of such glitch Pokémon on their own articles. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 18:27, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
:Well... it's not really an official Pokemon. No matter how much you will plug your ears and scream IT'S OFFICIAL!!!! because it has Pokemon-like data... well, you gotta fill that in or else the game would go ballistic. Is the name "Missingno." in the copyright database? I can't check that for myself (don't know how), but I have my doubts about it being copyrighted by Nintendo. It's just filler data that people happen to get attached to, because you can encounter it during 'normal gameplay' (ish...), has more of a name than the other glitches, can have a more 'real' sprite, and doesn't have much effect on your game other than the Hall of Fame.

:Does that make it a Pokemon? No. No, it doesn't. Has it appeared in any other game except Generation I? No. Was it intended to be encountered? No. It may have types/moves/stats, but that was probably to avoid a total crash if someone happened to come across it.

:As for Missingno being on the page... well. I don't think it's a "true" form per se, but it at least deserves a trivia mention or something. Because it's not official and two of its "forms" are just glitchy boxes, I don't think it needs an entire section... trivia should be suitable. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 18:39, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

== Rotom changing forms ==

The article explains that Rotom changes form by possessing household appliances. However, it does not say how. (Giratina's section explains how, for example.) By showing the in-game sprites for each form, wouldn't that indicate those forms are available in the games? So what needs to happen in order to trigger this change? Do you examine one of the appliances with Rotom leading the party? [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 12:40, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Rotom (Pokémon)/Archive 2

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{{Forme info|479{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|1=O|2=W|3=R|4=F|5=L}}.png|Electric|Ghost|[[Form differences#Rotom|Rotom's forms]]|Rotom as though it had [[Galactic Eterna Building#Rotom's Room|possesed]] {{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=nothing|1=an oven|2=a washing machine|3=a refrigerator|4=a fan|5=a lawn mower}}, therefore being {{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Normal Rotom|1=Heat Rotom|2=Wash Rotom|3=Frost Rotom|4=Fan Rotom|5=Mow Rotom}}|the artwork shown in the infobox, the anime image shown, the base stats entry which is unhidden, and the Pokéathlon stats entry which is unhidden|day}}

<big><big><big>'''ROTOM IS NOT A LEGENDARY POKÉMON. DO NOT ADD IT TO THE PAGE.'''</big></big></big>

==Archives==
*[[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (discussions from August 24, 2007 – December 5, 2008)

== Unprotect ==

When can this be unprotected? *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 12:14, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
<gallery perrow=3>
Image:Rotom normal.jpg|Rotom
Image:Rotom heat.jpg|Heat Rotom
Image:Rotom wash.jpg|Wash Rotom
Image:Rotom frost.jpg|Frost Rotom
Image:Rotom spin.jpg|Spin Rotom
Image:Rotom cut.jpg|Cut Rotom
</gallery> *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 16:09, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
:Could an admin also fix up the new stats-box? Rotom's the only one not updated. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 20:04, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
::Can this be unprotected anytime soon I wanna make the in the anime part now...[[User:Rucario64|Rucario]][[User Talk:Rucario64|64]] 17:39, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:::This page isn't unprotected yet? [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 19:40, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

== Legendary? ==

I know this has been discussed before but since the main argument for Rotom not being legendary was its stats but now that it can change forms (a trait shared with several legendary Pokémon) that all have better stats ("almost making them analogous to evolutions") should this discussion be reopened.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:No. Not a legendary.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::Shall we bring this up on the Castform talk page too then? What about Cherrim and Burmy? Rotom isn't legendary, it's just the Gen IV version of Snorlax, Sudowoodo and Kecleon (without the annoying blocking of your path thing). — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:44, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:::The main argument was the new stats and ''event'' status. At least I new better than to edit the article outright. If nothing else, it is the first ''non''-legendary to have had new forms unlocked through events.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:41, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, technically, the official DP Pokédex released by Nintendo/Gamefreak/TVTokyo stated that Rotom was a Legendary Pokémon, but yeah, it's doubtful that it is one. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 02:59, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::::: Then so is arcanine. Get working on that children[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:::::: Actually, I was referring to this (It still labels it as the Plasma pokémon, BTW.)

:::::: [[Image:LegendaryRotom.jpg|500px]]

::::::[[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]]03:05, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
I realized a while ago that here we didn't refer to it as legendary and respected that, I was just wondering if it was just because of its {{tt|''awful'' stats|which are better with the new forms}} as well as the new EVENT status.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

its legendary. duh. sure the booked said delibird was a legendary but in the lineup it wasent there and rotom was there. [[User:ArceusEX|ArceusEX]] 20:49, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:Oh no, don't start ''that'' again...--The [[Delibird (Pokémon)|Kk]][[Stantler (Pokémon)|ll]][[Santa Claus|nn]][[User:Kkllnn|ator]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| サンタクロース]] 20:52, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

::: well i brung it up hah [[User:ArceusEX|ArceusEX]] 21:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Sorry, I know this sort of thing brings out the worst in certain bulbapedians (^). But really, what are the remaining arguments? It's stats aren't awful anymore so it can't be that. Also, if this discussion still ends with it not being legendary, could an Admin please add that '''Rotom is the first non-legendary Pokémon to have an alternate form that requires activation from an event'''.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 21:24, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Well, if you look in the deletion log for {{u|Timer/Rotom's Status|one of the most useless pages in history}}, apparently Pokemon.com said it wasn't legendary. And EX, did the book have the official Nintendo Seal on it? Didn't think so. Now, ''better'' handbooks, which actually ''have'' the seal on them, say that 'Tom is ''not'' a legendary.--The [[Delibird (Pokémon)|Kk]][[Stantler (Pokémon)|ll]][[Santa Claus|nn]][[User:Kkllnn|ator]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| サンタクロース]] 21:28, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::Well, I don't know about you, but I think the official copyright that he mentioned is good enough for me. I mean, what's the point in even making a copyright if the person/company in question didn't ACTUALLY create it? Besides, the official Seal of Nintendo isn't going to apply anyways, as Nintendo didn't actually create Pokémon (it was gamefreak). All they did was allow it on their systems. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 21:38, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::In that case, could someone please add the trivia.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 23:15, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I already did a long time ago. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:24, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::We already decided this, Didnt we? Its not a legendary, unless Arcanine is one ({{tt|similar species name|hell, its even listed with Articuno, Zapdos, and MOltres}}[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::::::::::It is not legendary, end of story. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:05, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::No, I mean say '''Rotom is the only non-legendary to be considered "event only"'''.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 00:54, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::LIES! Rotom can be captured, only his other formes, not officially in the Dex, therefore not new pokemon, cant be captured[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:::::::::::::To quote the page:"''As of the official Japanese tournament held in 2008, all Rotom forms have been banned from official tournaments. This is due to the special status of the alternate forms as event-exclusive Pokémon.''" I understand what you mean DCM, but I'm just using what we already have.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:03, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::But it doesnt have its own distinctive entry in the pokedex. Therefore, not a pokemon, just a variant of one.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
(Gettin' cramped) the--[[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 20:58, 8 February 2009 (UTC)n put first/only Pokémon with alternate forms only available through an event. I was just using the {{tt|wording we already had in the article|change that too if necessary}}.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
:Double check that.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

is there any way we can truly find out if it is a legendary or not? [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:26, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
and i consider it semi-legendary like unown or lucario.

also the way you obtain Rotom is like most legendaries, because you have to go up to a T.V. and then a battle starts, do you get what i'm saying?
and an '''''Bold text''OFFICIAL''' nintendo handbook says Rotom is legendary
and Rotom has legendary battle music!!!! [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:31, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:*refrains from using caps* no, it isn't. The music {{p|Cresselia|means}} {{p|Shaymin|nothing}}. Goodbye.--[[Flash Fire (ability)|freezing]][[Heat Wave (move)|COLD]] ([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 23:37, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

so, there is no way we can truly find out if it is a legendary? [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC) [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC) [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

:Even without the Legendary music, there's still the fact that it was mentioned to be a Legendary in an official handbook that was made not only by nintendo, but TVTokyo and even Gamefreak, the ones who actually created Pokémon in the first place. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:50, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

what i'm saying is that you have to activate rotom (in a way) and then battle him.
how many non-legendary pokemon do that!?--[[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 20:58, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
:{{p|Snorlax}}, {{p|Sudowoodo}}. As much as I'd like to think Rotom's legendary, that argument doesn't cut it around here.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 21:13, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

why would nintendo make such a big deal out of rotom in platinum if he wasnt legendary. {{unsigned|Vik0z0z}}
:To make little fanboys and fangirls argue about it on Bulbapedia talkpages. Look guys, there is no official confirmation otherwise, so we have to take it as ''unlegendary'', as that is what ''most'' of the information leads to. Yes, there are points on both sides, but with no ''official'' confirmation, we can't do anything. The discussion here is becoming best suited to the forums and further comments will be deleted. Thanks. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:53, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::Doesn't that Guidebook count as official information? I mean, from the Copyright notice that someone posted in the archives that TV Tokyo, Nintendo, and even Gamefreak had a hand at making the book. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 10:03, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I don't know... It could possily be a legendary... I mean, it's only possible to obtain one right? I don't know. I'll check it out with Nintendo. Maybe they can clear up some questions. [[User:Smashbrother101|Smashbrother101]] 01:11, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
i am back and i say: who cares its just one of many pokemon [[User:ArceusLX|arceusLX leveled up!]] 00:54, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:Old discussion is old. Commenting here is like feeding trolls. Just don't.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 06:33, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia worthy? ==

On Pokemon Ranger (The first one), In Fall City, there is a young guy in a house in the south of Fall City. He has a picture on his wall which looks like either Freeze Rotom or Heat Rotom. Can someone else take a look at this for me?--[[User:Pokelova|Pokelova]] 05:12, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
:Thats not really trivia worthy[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

Okay--[[User:Pokelova|Pokelova]] 23:02, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

== Cut and Spin Form U.S. names ==

Serebii.net today got information that two of Rotom's Form names have been changed in the U.S. translation as follows:

Cut Rotom is now known as '''Mow Rotom''' and
Spin Rotom is now known as '''Fan Rotom'''

I just wanted to let you guys you know --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 22:27, 17 March 2009 (UTC)Dialgafan1

== Heat Forme ==

On the official site for Platinum, it says the oven is a microwave oven. I changed it on the Rotom and Form differences pages. [[User:Yinyang1195|Yin]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|Yang]] 21:59, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
:Excellent, well done. *two thumbs up and a big wide grin* — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:01, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
::Umm...Thank you? [[User:Yinyang1195|Yin]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|Yang]] 00:10, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
:::I always thought it was a toaster oven. A microwave doesn't make sense, because it doesn't use fire to heat food. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 00:53, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Neither does Ash carrying a Larvitar. But it's from the site so there's nothing you can do about it. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 00:54, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
::::On its defense, it's Heat Forme, not Fire Forme, so the microwave ''does'' make sense. Toaster ovens don't use fire either, anyway (at least not when functioning correctly).--[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 15:54, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

== Charon's journal and notes on Rotom ==

Should I add them on Rotom's or Charon's page, or should I just not add them at all. --[[User talk:AOS|AOS]] 03:32, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
:I say Charon's page. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 03:33, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

== Artwork at top... ==

Why is it only Frost Rotom?[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 20:43, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
:Purge the server, click on the time at the top right of the page--[[Flash Fire (ability)|freezing]][[Heat Wave (move)|COLD]] ([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 20:45, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

== Why wash Rotom ==

The regular Rotom illustrates the Rotom concept better than its other forms. Do you see the sky forme Shaymin as the main picture on Shaymin's page? No? Then put the regular Rotom as the main images on this page! --[[User:HideInTheDark|HideInTheDark]] 18:26, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
:First of, calmness is key. Second, the images are on a timer, and change every day for this article, I believe. The pictures on Shaymin, as well as numerous other pages, also change at set times. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 18:37, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
::Oopsy, sorry, I didn't notice. A million sorry. --[[User:HideInTheDark|HideInTheDark]] 18:39, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Why wash Rotom? Maybe its dirty! (Sorry, I couldn't resist.) [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 16:25, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

== Nintendo ==

We really should just wait for Nintendo to say something. I mean, just because someone says it isn't legendary or it is, doesn't mean that what they say is true or official, because nobody knows for sure, and because Nintendo never said anything about Rotom. (And I don't mean Pokemon.com) [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 19:48, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

:Still, multiple times it has been referred to as NON-legendary. You may be right, but I'm pretty sure its non-legendary. Nintendo mentioned it once if I'm correct, and the only possible proof that its legendary is that its banned from tournaments. ((User:Megamew/Megamew)) 02:08:13, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
::Actually, there is one other proof that it's legendary. The official handbook for DP had actually stated that Rotom is legendary. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 10:55, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Those handbooks are incalcuably full of errors, though. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 11:32, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
::::I think that the handbooks are a bit... unreliable. they have made (many) mistakes before and should not be trusted for important matters such as legendary Pokémon. ((User:Megamew/megamew)) 21:37, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

== Trading to Diamond and Pearl ==

If Rotom is in its Wash form (for example) and it was traded to Diamond or Pearl, it would be reverted back to its Normal Form. However, if it were to be traded back to a copy of Platinum (after being reverted to Normal Form by Diamond or Pearl), would it go back to its Wash Form, or would it stay as Normal Form? [[User:Ggled|Ggled]] 13:53, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

:It would most likely stay as it's normal form. I can't find anything on Youtube, so I can't confirm it for you. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:02, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I got some friends, Pokémon Platinum, A DS lite, and a wash [[rotom]] over here. I'm on it. --[[User:16ipodfanatic|16ipodfanatic]] 03:59, 15 June 2009 (UTC)16ipodfanatic

== "Auto-relearning" ThunderShock (in Platinum) ==

In the trivia section, there is the later part of one that says "If the only move that Rotom knows right before reverting to its original form is exclusive to its alternate form, then that move will be replaced with ThunderShock." I only own Platinum, and recently captured Rotom. Found the secret room, and transformed it, letting it learn that form's attack (replacing ThunderShock). Changed it to another appliance, then back to default, but found that ThunderShock had been deleted instead. Luckily, had saved just beforehand, so just did a power reset.

I then tested with just one appliance then back to default, and ThunderShock was again deleted instead of coming back and replacing the appliance's attack. So perhaps the replacing only happens in D/P? If someone could confirm and correct it, that'd be cool.

Also found that not allowing Rotom to learn the appliance's attack will also not allow Rotom to take it over. Again, no clue if this is different in D/P (if it is, obviously should be noted by someone that can confirm it).

Until confirmed, I'm removing the part I quoted for now, and someone can just retrive it later or rewrite it as neccessary.--[[User:Mondoblasto|Mondoblasto]] 08:48, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
:Ah, but that says the ''only'' move. I.e., delete all of Rotom's moves ''but'' the special move, then change it back. I'm fairly certain that's what it means (not that I have Platinum to confirm). It refers only to Platinum, as the alternate forms are only in Pt, btw. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:54, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::Oh ya, secret key->secret room->alternate forms only in Platinum.... after going to Canada's first Pokemon event, you'd think I'd remember that >_<; Since I DO have Platinum (long time fan of the anime, but first game), I guess I can go ahead and test it; as mentioned, my Rotom still fresh and default. I don't know of a way to remove moves, but I'm thinking I'll try using the appliance moves to delete them one after the other, through chain changing, and maybe also by default->alternate1->default->alternate2... ect--[[User:Mondoblasto|Mondoblasto]] 06:12, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:::There's a [[move deleter]] in [[Canalave City]]. That should help. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
::::I tested it with a Heat Rotom knowing only Overheat, and it's only move is now ThunderShock. It didn't even know ThunderShock before I deleted the other moves (not that that would make a difference), so it must have learnt it when changing formes. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] 06:42, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::Excellent, we've proved the article correct. I do enjoy doing that. :D Great effort. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:54, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

==Interesting...==
Wait, according to the anime, [[rotom]] can move even when it's not in it's battle mode. Wait, what? Okay, '''now''' I'm confused. Can someone help me with this? Oh, by the way... '''STOP FIGHTING/ARGUING ABOUT WHETHER ROTOM IS A LEGENDARY OR NOT!!!!''' I'm sick of your squabbling. --[[User:16ipodfanatic|16ipodfanatic]] 03:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)16ipodfanatic
:Thanks for bringing it up again. That's really just what we wanted. And anime =/= games. The two canons do things differently. Just because something happens in one, it doesn't have to happen in the other. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 04:04, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

== Name origins ==

I once added a small note that Rotom may also be a combination of ''rotate'' and possibly ''atom'', which got removed. Sure Charon may have named Rotom, '''but might I add that Rotom existed before Platinum? Charon was probably not even near their heads when they were choosing a name for Rotom at that time.''' So it seems to make sense to me that in the REAL WORLD, Rotom's name origin was most likely different back then. Yes it's name is motor backwards, but I was just trying to show that there were probably other possiblities why it was named that. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 07:24, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
:I agree, We have another possible name origin for {{p|Electrode}}--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 07:37, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
::Had it been based off of something else, surely the journal would have reflected that, like ''I have decided to name this most wondrous Pokémon 'Rotom.' Simple though it may be, Rotom emerged to me like a '''Rot'''atting a'''tom'''... Surely the link is obvious?''--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 20:22, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Honestly, there's usually only one reason for naming it, and we all know Platinum was planned during DP. They just needed to give a reason to buy Pt. It's like how Phione was named after a clione, not "clone" or "phony" or anything else. They put in the journal exactly what they named it for, making it the only truly canonical name origin. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:15, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

== About the banning ==

:"As of the official Japanese tournament held in 2008, all Rotom forms have been banned from official tournaments. This is due to the special status of the alternate forms as event-exclusive Pokémon."
But wait a second.. you can get the Rotom formes without any extra events in HGSS (it's in Silph Co., not sure if you need to beat Red or anything), and I assume that the 2010 tourney from what I've heard uses HGSS only. So they're not really all that event-exclusive..? I think there might be some rewording needed here... ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 06:46, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
:Has the 2010 rules list been released yet? It could have been updated now that the formes are all for the taking. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:08, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
::Just checked the banlist (somewhere on [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/wcs0910/game/reg.html here]), the only Pokémon that are banned are Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, Phione, Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin and Arceus. So, I'm assuming that it's legal to use the Rotom formes.. I'm not really good with wording things though, more of a typo fixer, so uh... can someone change that on the page? ;; ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 17:38, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
== In explorers of sky... ==

Alright. Pokémon mystery dungeon explorers of sky was released after platinum was, right? Well, I was wondering if there is any way to change its rotom's form in explorers of sky. If anybody knows anything about that, it would help. Thanks! {{unsigned|Luke6256}}

== Multiple Rotom ==

Could someone bring mutliple Rotom and appliance them or is it only one at a time? [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 04:22, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
:Multiple Rotom can be in different formes at the same time (If you have multiple Rotom in your party it will ask which one you want to go into the appliance), but you can only have one of each forme at a time. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 07:18, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

== Roton ==
Under Rotom's orgin it should probably be listed that its based on the quasi particle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roton.{{unsigned|Juron}}
:That is probably just coincidence, given that it's name is "motor" backwards. While it could be true that seems a bit of stretch, and Rotom doesn't really look like a quasi particle. Also a roton is probably called something different in Japanese. In future please add new discussion topics to the bottom of the talkpage.--[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 10:39, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

== Egg Moves ==
Does Rotom have any? If it doesn't, shouldn't there be a "Egg Moves" section that says "none" {{unsigned|Malake256}}

:Please {{BP|signature policy|sign your comments}} using four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).
:And no, Rotom cannot breed, so it does not have any egg moves. We don't add an Egg Moves section for Pokémon that cannot be bred. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 06:06, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
::But I bred one!! Have you even tried breeding him?? ~[[User:Takharii|Takhar]][[User talk:Takharii|eon]] 07:17, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
:::You can breed Rotom, it is just that they don't have any egg moves that can be compatibly passed down through the parents. So therefore no egg moves, maybe in a later Generation though. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 10:16, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks alot :( I got in trouble for deleting the egg moves section on pokemon that can't breed. Rotom can breed and has no egg moves, it should have a section under moves learned thatrReads "By Breeding/none." {{unsigned|Malake256}}
::You say Rotom can breed, but if only one is available, then how? Because some species cannot breed with Ditto. Though this is mainly legendary species, I think there are some non-legendary Pokémon that cannot either. [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 12:30, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

== Caption ==

Normal Roton just says "Artwork of Normal Rotom from". Can someone fix that? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 19:13, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

== Forced reversion ==

It would be helpful and informative to list all the ways Rotom can be reverted back to normal forme and be stripped of its forme-specific move. I know for certain using Rotom in the Soul Silver Battle Frontier reverts him to his regular forme, and I am not sure but I believe taking Rotom into the union room also changes him back to normal. Does anyone know all the causes for this? Should this be added on the page? {{u|Podunk}}
:Please remember to add new sections to the '''bottom''' of the talk page. And sign your comments with four tildes <nowiki>(~~~~).</nowiki>--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 22:37, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Shiny Pokémon/Archive 1

2010-07-09T21:12:08Z

FrozenStrategy: I wonder...

> can someone explain the ratio thing with the xor an everything? [[User:Squeela|this S**T will turn your mama white]] 16:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)squeela[[User:Squeela| this S**T will turn your mama white]] 16:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

>In the TCG, shiny Pokémon are called "shining" Pokémon.

Yes and no. There's "shining" cards, "crystal" cards, and the new ones that don't have a collecive name but are denoted by a star on them (so are commonly called "stars" or "shining stars")- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Blackjack Gabbiani|Blackjack Gabbiani]] ([[User talk:Blackjack Gabbiani|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Blackjack Gabbiani|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

:Crystal cards had the same Pokemon coloring as regular ones. "Shining" was the official name and i don't know why people use that crappy "shiny" word... --[[User:AtoMan|AtoMan]] 10:17, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

>If you evolve a shiny pokemon, will it stay shiny? [[User:Therequiembellishere|Therequiembellishere]] 19:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, although sometimes the coloration of it will change. Shiny Charmeleon changes from off-red to a black Charizard, for instance. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 21:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

It's the same as a red Charmeleon becoming an orange Charizard. Regular becomes regular, shiny becomes shiny. It's another status like the nature. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 00:05, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry but the {{p|Kecleon}} seen in [[EP205]] is not a shiny pokémon. To my knowledge an alternate colored Kecleon is turquoise not purple. -- {{u|Kenji-girl}}

: If it's not a normally-coloured Pokémon it must, logically, be an alternately-coloured Pokémon. It doesn't matter if it doesn't match the precise alternate colouration of the games. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 10:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

::Technically, yes; "alternately colored" means, technically, it's simply a different color. "Shiny" is a different story, however. [[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 18:27, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

:Those purple Kecleon are like that because... they're Kecleon, simple as it sounds. Not sure how to word it in the article, but it's not surprising that a chameleon Pokémon can have color variations, either because the interpretation of its traits is to blend with its surroundings (field Kecleon, pinball, anime) or changing its type via {{a|Color Change}}. This is too similar to discussing [[Smeargle (Pokémon)#Pokédex entries|the Crystal Pokédex entry for Smeargle]] --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:54, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

==Breeding chance in Gen IV==
Though I haven't found any definite sources, apparently the odds of breeding a shiny pokemon to have a shiny offspring is 1/8192, as much as finding a regular shiny. Is this true? If so, this renders Shiny dittos practically useless. [[User:Razor|Razor]] 07:18, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

: As useless as shiny Pokemon are regularly, but yes. It's the same odds as it would be with a regular Pokemon. --[[User:Porygon|Porygon]] 09:44, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

::Though really, a shiny Pokémon is no more useless than a regular one, since it's no longer determined on stats. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 17:44, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

the chances are exactly the same - its only in GSC that its a 1/64 of a shiny parents egg being shiny [[user: adambesthythe]]

== Shiny Pokemon ==

Would it be worth it if we put in a Section or even a whole new page that showed a normal Pokemon's sprite along with it's Shiny sprite image? [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 17:11, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
I think it is a good idea because it would be interesting to see.[[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 10:05, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

== Include 4th Gen formulas? ==

I think this article should include the formulas for determining whether or not a pokemon is shiny from its MAP and OT IDs. Any objections? Also, the probability of obtaining a shiny in Gens 3/4 should be corrected to the correct value, 1/8192, not 2/65025. Where did that number come from, anyway?
--[[User:Reuvens|Reuvens]] 22:15, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
:I think the second number is the chance that a Pokémon will contract Pokérus. :/ Good idea, by the way. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 19:52, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
I think I've found the source of this ridiculous number, after a little bit of futzing. 256^2 is 65536, and the chance of encountering a shiny is 8/65536. However, 255^2 is 65025, and so it's possible that someone hit a wrong button on their calculator when trying to calculate chances. Unfortunately, I doubt that figuring any of this out is going to change the fact that a whole bunch of people are now misreporting the odds as 2/65025 simply by virtue of it previously being on Bulbapedia. Hopefully it'll die out soon.-- [[User:Reuvens|Reuvens]] 01:12, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

<strike>The chance is not 8/65536 (1/8192), but '''8 in 65536''', or '''8/(65536-8)''' (or 1/819'''1'''). That makes the chance 0.0001220852154804053% instead of 0.0001220703125%.</strike> Not much of a difference, but if such an insanely precise percentage is given, it should be accurate. Also the 2-10 isn't right, 8/65536 is 2-13. I'm correcting this both here and on [[Personality value]] --[[User:En-Cu-Kou|En-Cu-Kou]] 20:20, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

:Well if the chance of something is '''1 in 10''' it mathematically IS a 10% chance (which is 1/10. 1in10= 10%= 0.1= 1/10). <strike>You are saying that '''1 in 10''' is 1/(10-1) which simplifies into 1/9 (just like you said 1/(8192-1) simplifies to 1/8191) ) which is 10.11..% (1/9= 10.11..%= 0.11..). 10%≠10.11..%. So ''you'' are also saying that if something is a 1 in 3 chance it is a 1/(3-1) chance (which simplifies to 1/2, 1/2 is 50%--1/3 is 33.33%).</strike> If I have a jar with 3 different colored (red,pink,blue) marbles the chance of getting a pink is 1/3 (33.33%), blue is 1/3 (33.33%), and red is 1/3 (33.33%). All three percents add up to 100% and fractions add up 1 (3/3=1).<strike> If each was 50% like ''you'' were saying it would add up to 150% and 1.5 (3/2=1.5).</strike> And I was gonna round those decimal numbers on those pages, I just forgot. --[[User:Sivart345|Sivart]][[User talk:Sivart345|3]][[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|4]][[User:Firestorm|'''5''']] 22:47, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
::<strike>Nobody agrees with me?</strike> Wow, I just realized that when I wrote the chance of shininess in the pages (before En-Cu-Kou changed them) that I ''did'' write 2-10 instead of 2-13 (even though I knew it was the latter one) (guess he was right in changing that). [[User:Sivart345|Sivart]][[User talk:Sivart345|3]][[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|4]][[User:Firestorm|'''5''']] 19:02, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
::Oh man. Yes, you're right. I'm sorry for messing this up. --[[User:En-Cu-Kou|En-Cu-Kou]] 19:59, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
:::It's all cool. I crossed out the 'incorrect data' in our comments. [[User:Sivart345|Sivart]][[User talk:Sivart345|3]][[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|4]][[User:Firestorm|'''5''']] 20:43, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny Egg? ==
If a shiny pokemon has an [[Pokémon egg|egg]], will the pokemon that hatches from the egg be shiny? [[User:Theryguy512|Ryguy]]
:In Generation II, there was a sort of "gene" system where a shiny's offspring would more likely be shiny. However, Generation III got rid of that system. You have the same chances of finding a wild shiny as hatching a shiny, whether the parent was shiny or not.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:32, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

==It was the legendary Red Snorlax==
Look, I know Shiny Snorlax are blue, but the Snorlax in [[SS012|''Training Daze]]'' was the legendary Red Snorlax. It wasn't a real Snorlax, because it turns out in the end that the Snorlax was [[Viper]], the Drill Sergeant of the [[Team Rocket Academy]] in disguise.

== Mystery Dungeon Shinies ==

Rumor has it that you can get shinies in Mystery Dungeon 2... specifically, a shiny Celebi mission or something. Anybody have Time Version to back this up? [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 21:52, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

*You can't get shinies in PMD2, however, you do come across a Shiny Celebi in the future world in the main plot of the game. Otherwise, no, you can't get them. --[[User:Jonouchi|Ricco]] 15:27, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

==Fossils==
Can the revived fossils in Gen IV be shiny if you try enough? Or is it preset when you first give the guy the fossil? [[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|?]][[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|!]] 01:17, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:If by "try enough" you mean "give him enough fossils". I think it's preset when you give him the fossil, so just save before doing so, give him the fossil, run out, back in, see if it's shiny, soft reset, repeat. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:29, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

== Shiny ditto ==

If you have a ditto that is shiny and it uses transform does the pokéemon it transforms into be shiny?--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]] 01:24, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:Yes. However, if the Pokémon you trasform into is shiny, and Ditto/Mew is not, it'll be regular. {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{ani|282}} 01:26, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

will it bread shinny Pokemon? [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]
:No. That's only in {{gen|II}}, unfortunatly. I kept breeding my Vaporeon with a shiny Wooper, in hopes that I'd get a shiny Eevee, but 150 eggs later I gave up. Fail! :p [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 16:05, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

No. <big>{{ani|486}}[[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']]{{ani|377}}[[User Talk:Tesh|'''TALK''']]{{ani|378}}[[User:Tesh/Other|'''FUN''']]{{ani|379}}</big> 16:05, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Rats. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 13:56, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

== Starly clock ==
Wasn't the clock Dawn owned in [[DP001]] a shiny starly??? --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 01:29, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

So would shiny Noctowl be 光るヨルノズク? [[Image:164sMS.png]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|?]][[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|!]] 20:38, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
:Hikaru Yorunozuku? I think so. Google's translation officially says "lucent". however. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:36, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
::I wouldn't trust Google's translations if my life depended on it. :[--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:30, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

== The Prima guides ==

As well as using other non-explicit terms from the game such as [[Effort values]], Volume 2 of the Diamond & Pearl Prima guide mentions ''shiny Pokémon'' and even mentions the possibility of getting those Pokémon easily via the [[Poké Radar]]. I know those guides are authorized by Nintendo because they are sold by [[Pokémon Center (store)|PokemonCenter]]. However, how much of the content is "official"? --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:54, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

== Question for G/S/C ==

...do you need a shiny Ditto to pass on shiny genes, or does it work for any shiny '''in Gold and Silver'''? Right now, I'm breeding a male Red Gyarados with a female Dratini, so I can get a shiny one, but halfway through riding on the bike through Route 34 and Goldenrod, I forgot whether shininess is only passed down through a Ditto, or any shiny. Bah! If someone could clear this up for me, it'd be appreciated! [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|δ]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 18:49, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
:Hmmm... I think the shiny gene is passed through any shiny Pokémon. A shiny Ditto is widely used for breeding shinies because it can breed with anything. [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] 18:54, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
::Shinyness IS passed on thru anything in GSC. 1/64 chance if both parents are shiny, and 1/256 chance if one is shiny.

== question ==

i have a question
in gen IV, will every trainer see a shiny pokémon ssoner or later?
i had a green and blue tentacool once, but i erased my file
am i done for shiny pokémon?

idk but once i saw a shiny Girafarig once . and i also hatched a shiny happiny. from that happiny egg from the hiker and it was shiny, but once it evolved it was regular. has this ever happened before on pokémon game history, or is it my game, or is it a glitch????0.o

No, you aren't. It's just hard to find a shiny Pokémon. Remember that there is a very small chance of finding one. -Metagross72
:Math says yes.Out of every 65536 pokemon you see, at least 8 of the m should be shiny[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]
:Shinies evolve into shinies. Maybe you just thought it was. Another thing could be due to the fact that Chansey and Blissey's shiny sprites aren't spectacularly different from the regulars. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:06, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

==Foreign Aid==

"rare colored Pokemon's Egg can be found little easier"

That line is from http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir_english/?p=30 . It talks about the GTS and the benefits of using Pokemon from another country. Among these is "Rare Colored Pokemon's Egg can be found little easier." I'm surprised it isn't noted here yet... does anyone have any additional information?--[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 04:44, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

OH MY GOD YOURE FREAKING RIGHT!!!! I was surfing on the net and then found this videos!! you gotta watch them!!! this is gonna make us all have shiny pokemon in seconds!!! THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH for mencioning that, I would never know it!! Thank you!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDM6YTICYdA&feature=Responses&parent_video=cqsch18fnG4&index=1 [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 20:05, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

==I luv Mathmatics==
Someone help me please... I don't understand those complex formulas (sorry). Can someone explain me in english this thing? If I catch a pokemon 25 times (all of them with different personalities) will 1 be shiny or not? [[User:Hfc2x|Hfc2x]] 18:52, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:The answer is simple. No. It's a one out of 8192 chance of being shiny, not 1 out of 25. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 19:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::But what does a pokemon need to be shiny? (that was the correct question :P) how does the personality affect that? [[User:Hfc2x|Hfc2x]] 19:46, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:::The personality value is a hidden value anyway; it's not the ''nature''. It determines it, like it determines gender, Wurmple's evolution, and so on. But they're all unrelated. Shininess is also determined by the Trainer's ID number, I believe. So there's likely very few possible gender/final form/nature combos for a shiny Wurmple. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 20:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

== Shiny ==

If a Pokemon is shiny, would it have higher stats than a normal Pokemon, or would they just be just another Pokemon, but a different color? [[User:Zapdos|Zapdos]] 20:58, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:Only in GS it would have different ("better") stats. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 21:03, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
::Not really "better", just "specific" stats. It'd have all 10's except in Def. and Sp.Def, I think, while the max is 15. In Gen III and IV, though, it has the same random stats any Pokémon does. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 22:13, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
::: Now that I think about it, shinies in [[Generation II]] aren't all that good. Defense, Speed, Sp. Atk and Sp. Def EVs will be about 10% better, and HP is either average or about 50% worse. --[[User:JDigital|JDigital]] 06:58, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

== Alternate Colouration ==

Shouldn't this link here? Not everyone here uses American English ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 02:43, 4 May 2008 (UTC))
:yes. done. i was talking about this the other day with another user. any more of these, you tell me, i can take care of it in a jiffy. (and other people too really) -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:01, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

==Weedle==
wait there was a weedle in the ultimate test that was colored green. is that worth metioning? [[User:ShinyMedicham]]

== Red number colour in Gen IV? ==

I have been Pokésaving some Pokémon so that they are shiny. Can anyone confirm that if the Pokémon is shiny, the colour of the number in their summary page is red?[[User:GJPal|GJ]] 01:29, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:My shiny Pokémon have red Pokédex numbers, and they aren't hacked. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 01:36, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
::Alright, thank you. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't a mistake I made while hacking.[[User:GJPal|GJ]] 01:40, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

== Breeding chance in Gen II ==

I noticed that it says there is as high as a 1/64 chance of breeding a shiny Pokémon in Gen II. I recently hatched 5 eggs in my Silver version. I used a shiny male Gyarados (from the Lake of Rage) and a female Dragonite. When all 5 eggs hatched I had 2 male and 3 female Dratini. The weird thing was that 2 females were shiny. If the chances are really 1/64 than the odds of that happening are about 1/430. With only 5 samples, its not enough info to say whether this was just luck or maybe our hypotheses about breeding need to be looked over. Any thoughts? [[User:Stewy5714|Stewy5714]] 15:31, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:Lucky. I doubt that means the chances are different.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight the ampharos]] 17:48, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny legendary pokémon? ==

Is it possible to get a shiny legendary without cheating or a promotional event? Or are all normally obtainable legendaries a fixed color?

:Legendary Pokémon have the same rate of being shiny as any other Pokémon. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:26, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:You just have to try a few times until you battle a shiny legendary... well a little more than a few times LOL xD '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 03:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

When is the shininess or nonshininess of a legendary decided? When you battle the legendary or before? i.e. if I battle a legendary, lose, turn off the game, whaever, and reload, would there be a chance of it being an alternate color the second time?

It really is not worth trying. Do you have any idea how long you would potentially have to play? You could play for three weeks without sleep of constantly battling the legendary, turning the game off and all that and still not get that shiny legendary. The chace is 1 in 8192....that doesn't mean you can battle it 8191 times and 8192nd one with DEFINATELY be shiny. Its a 1 in 8192 chance every time. Whenever I come across someone with a shiny legendary, it's common sense to assume they hacked it.[[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 05:50, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

: :( I got a legit Shiny Heatran after 2 hours. It's definitely possible. --12:12, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[[User:~Poke~|~Poke~]]

I'll take your word for it but when someone battles you, they'll assume it's hacked...That must have taken ages, but you won't get any credit for it. Too bad....:-( [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 09:23, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
: [http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/960099/57737 this guide] (section G002) suggests that Legendary personality values are set when the game is started (i.e., save file created), but I'm not sure that's true. The page doesn't mention it so i'll assume it's false, but does anyone know for certain?

== Kecleon ==

Why is Kecleon mentioned here? Read the Pokédex description. It's perfectly normal for a Kecleon to be any colour, as long as its zigzag is red. It's normal behaviour for a Kecleon. --[[User:Someone Else|Someone Else]] 00:37, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:Due to body camouflage. The purple one is most certainly not camouflaging. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:10, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

== Orange Islands ==

Is it worth mentioning the Pokémon from the Orange Islands in the Animé? Some of the Pokémon were coloured (and patterned) differently so would that count? --☆[[User:Woodland Mudkip|Woodland:M]] ☆ 10:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

:Not really.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 10:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

::Do you mean the pink ones? If so, then no, they don't count. They weren't shiny. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 10:08, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Maybe! They might be referring to the Vileplume and Butterfree in Pokéball Peril--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 12:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
:Yes - I mean the Pokémon at professor Ivy's lab. She said they were different due to the climate or something. This article doesn't just talk about shinies so it seems relevant. --☆[[User:Woodland Mudkip|Woodland:M]] ☆ 22:51, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
::Remember guys, who makes the rules... THE GAMES! This article exist because of the shiny Pokémon exist in the games, and THEN they existed in the anime. The orange islands Pokémon are not the same as shiny, so it's not relevant to put it in the article. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 00:05, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Since when? We mention the purple Kecleon yet its not in the games. This doesn't mean "shiny only". It means Pokémon that are a color that they aren't usually. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:07, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

== Reliability of sprites? ==

Just an odd question; are the shiny sprites for each Pokémon completely legitimate? I remember when I was younger playing Crystal version I found a red Caterpie, though Caterpie are said to be gold whilst shiny. My friend also tells me she has a maroon Luvdisc, although I don't know how reliable that information is since I've never seen it. [[User:Gabbie|Gabbie]] 00:05, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
:All sprites have been taken from inside the game data (at least the ones which I've uploaded), so I can tell you they're reliable. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 00:44, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I can hack games and see the sprites in the roms and each Pokémon only gets one normal sprite and back sprite and one shiny sprite and back sprite and none of the sprites you say exist are in any Pokémon games.Darkmaster0 00:57, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

The colours could be messed up by a glitch. I've seen a glitched yellow and green Remoraid before, even though they're usually either blue or purple. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 21:56, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

I too used to have a red Caterpie on Crystal... [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 15:03, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

== Sprites missing ==

Here are a few facts that surprised me. We don't have shiny sprites for {{p|Goldeen}} or {{p|Torchic}}!

Also, not so surprisingly, we don't have sprites for Shiny Unowns BCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ!?, but this is understandable, as we have hardly any Unown sprites at all.

Do the sprites not exist or were they simply missed? [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 19:52, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

:Not all sprites have been uploaded. It's simply work in progress. You're welcome to help upload missing sprites - I upload some every once in a while... --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 19:54, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

== Pokemon Stadium ==

This says they could have "slightly" different colors. xD That made me laugh. The color variations in Stadium and (especially) Stadium 2 could be anywhere from miniscule to OUTRAGEOUS. I swear on Tajiri's grave I had a female Nidoran (actually Spot, from the boy south of Cerulean) who throughout her life looked male on Stadium 2. As a Nidoqueen, this became far worse than ever before, as she became a perfect shade of Nidoking purple with the teal ears, and a lighter creamy pastel teal for her face/torso accents. x3 Spot was awesome, lol. Incidentally, as the same NidoranF could be obtained on any Red or Blue, I tried it with a couple different game paks and never got another with her colors.

Poliwag were another one that was awesome. Typically for me, their skin ranged from teal to bright purple, while their lips could be any color of the rainbow. xD I had two full boxes on Stadium 2 of stored Poliwag just seeing how many different ones I could find. x3 Man, good ol' Stadium, neh? [[User:Heart of Thorns|Heart of Thorns]] 07:29, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:Ahha. I haven't played Stadium in a very long time, but damn do i remember the strange colors some would come out with. I might have had a glitchy game or something, i mean, if i remember rightly i had a yellow-y green Charmander at some point *sighs* Ah, good times. [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 09:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

== Ho-Oh Error ==

"The first Pokémon with its official alternate coloration seen was also the first Generation II Pokémon to be seen, a Ho-Oh seen by Ash in the first episode."

This sentence, from the way I read it, seems to claim that the first shiny Pokémon in the anime to match its alternate coloration in the games is the Ho-Oh in the first episode. Correction: Ho-Oh was covered entirely in a golden aura; We have no way of telling whether this is actually an alternate coloration or not. While one could argue that the colors we do see are not the same as its regular colors in-game, the depicted coloration isn't identical to its "official" shiny form either. It's just a Ho-Oh with a fully golden appearance due to the aura surrounding it. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 03:42, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

= I agree, There is no evidence that it was 'officially' "alternate colored" (however you Americans spell colour) ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 23:11, 25 December 2008 (UTC))

==Shiny Issue==
There is also a shiny Seaking in the FR/LG Trainer Tower, as shown in another page in Bulbapedia. The problem is, I can't undo the little box around it, and I didn't do anything to add it. Please just remove that, and it'll be good. Thanks,--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 01:04, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
EDIT: Disregard, it undid it by itself. Or another user helped out, but whatever, it's good now.
:For the record, that happens when you place a space before text:
like so.
[[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 01:10, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay,thanks.

Now onto that little Toxicroak Debate.

==Toxicroak Debate==
There was a blue one in Giratina and the Sky Warrior.
And no, it wasn't JUST the filter. It was the Toxicroak's coloration.
[http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk284/SRkid/Picture3.png]
If you look closely, it is blue.
::Actually, that really looks like the filter. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 15:12, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

:::I don't really think the filter is causing the Toxicroak to look normal-colored. I seriously believe that, behind the filter, lies an honest-to-goodness normal-coloration Toxicroak. Trust me, I don't think putting a filter of that color over a Toxicroak colored like Saturn's would result in that coloration...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:15, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Hmm, it does look like SP252 was right...where is this Toxicroak in the whole movie anyway...? '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 15:19, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::I think that would be the intro. But this doesn't mean that the other Toxicroak are definitely shiny. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 17:45, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Well, there's a Torterra there too, and is THAT blue?--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 21:50, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::Ah, this isn't objective proof, however. If the Toxicroak was in a normal appearance, and not floating around under idle showcasing for points unknown, there could be an argument (but no, not really). Instead, I can point out that the color filter does make some of the pokémon look off-color. That Bibarel just before is practially ''rosy'' compared to its normal brown, and Bonsly is a faint gold-green instead of its normal brown (not that I'm saying Toxicroak is affected by this; the difference would have been slighter and not several shades removed). That, and there's no way of saying that neither production teams didn't take liberties: series folk made its normal form with the shiny variation, and movie folk either ignored that or didn't realize and used its normal colors as they should be.

::Again, this isn't proof. At all. You're looking for ordinary coloring in the series. Movies don't cut it to make your argument, since the animation and those behind it are vastly diferent as a whole. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 14:11, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

:::First of all, that picture looks like crap. You can't tell anything from it. I saw the perfect quality version of the movie and it still looks like the coloration of Saturns. Shiningpikablu252, give it up already! It's NOT shiny. It's the anime colors, and learn to accept it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:01, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== Alternate coloration or shiny ==

Which is correct? Because by defenition, Alternate coloration means differently colored. Any Pokémon that's not it's original color should be in a page about '''DIFFERENTLY COLORED ''' Pokémon. Shiny is the unaverage coloration of a Pokémon in a Pokémon game, if im not mistaken. I think this page should have a different name (Like "Shiny Pokémon") [[User:ShinyPikachu|ŚĥîΠŶPî₭₳ĉĥŭ]] 02:28, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

: "Alternate Coloration" Is the offical term used in-game. "Shiny" is the fanmade term. In a wiki that's supposed to be informative, the offical term takes precedence over fanmade ones. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 03:46, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
::"Shiny" is also an official term :
::http://www.pixenli.com/image1237763589075416100.html [[User:Froggy25|Froggy25]] 23:14, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
:::See [http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag_03122009 here].--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']]* [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]'''at 17:48, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny Metagross or Noctowl ==

OK, Instead of having an edit war. Talk about it in the discussion. Its easier and better.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 22:40, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
:Noctowl already has a page; I say Metagross. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Is teh Pedia laggin 4 u 2?]] 22:44, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
::Why does it matter if it 'already had a page'??? It's still the most commonly known shiny, and shows the whole body of the Pokémon, not just the face. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 22:45, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Anyone can see the {{AP|shiny Noctowl's|Noctowl}} and page see the pic there. We would like to give chance to others that doesn't have their own page, such as shiny Metagross and Donphan. Theryguy also has a point; we should show the whole body, not just the face. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 22:52, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
::::We do need a better pic.... [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 22:58, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny egg sent to a different game ==

If Shinyness it determined by personality value and trainer/secret ID what happens if you bred a shiny egg in one game, reset the game to before it hatched and traded to another game. The Pokémon will have a new OT so would the game recalculate it's shinyness based on the new trainer/secret ID or will it remember it was shiny in the other game and therefore hatch shiny? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 16:39, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
:It recalculates, since the Shiny condition is determined by the {{tt|OT's|hatching Trainer's}} Trainer & Secret IDs, and then the personality value. While the personality value is determined when the egg is received from the Day Care Man, the other parts of the equation depend on who hatches it. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 16:53, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

== {{p|Jigglypuff}}??? ==
Aren't [[Little Pink]] and the {{p|Jigglypuff}} from [[AG138]] shiny??? They both have green eyes just like their shiny forms.
<gallery perrow=3>
File:Marina.gif|[[Little Pink]]
File:AG138 126.jpeg|The {{p|Jigglypuff}} from [[AG138]]
File:Spr 4d 039 s.png|A shiny {{p|Jigglypuff}}
</gallery>
--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 00:37, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
:[[Jigglypuff (Pokémon)#Trivia|It isn't really a unique thing...]]--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 00:41, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
::But still, they're not the normal coloration like {{an|Jigglypuff|a regular Jigglypuff}}. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 01:06, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

== That Table.... ==

I say we update it a bit more, Why don't we add the pictures of the shiny Pokémon in the table? Or will this be a major flop?--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]•[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 06:51, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
:Do it. Roundycorners as well. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 07:02, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
::done. Images need to be added.--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]•[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 07:24, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny Ditto ==

Will a shiny ditto transform into shiny subjects?

== Mewtwo's Color, and i'm not colorblind ==

In mewtwo's alternate color sprites its green, but my alt color mewtwo is black.
Granted i got it through a brainboy, it still should be green shouldn't it?

I mean i get a pink/purple Celebi and all the other pokemon are what they should be, but why is mewtwo black? Its even black in Stadium II.

So what's up, even if the sprites somehow got messed up, how would it make the stadium mewtwo black as well. Did who ever rip the sprites somehow mess up the colors? [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 20:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:For some reason, a shiny Mewtwo appears black in Stadium 2. I've noticed this as well a long time ago. I'm not sure of the reasons though. Color coding problems maybe. Would make interesting trivia though. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:23, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:: Its not just stadium though, it was on all three games (G/S/C) for me. Why would it appear on the GBC screen as black as well?

:: I would add that but every time i try to add something, someone usually tries to remove it often playing the speculation card even thought a vast majority of whats on here is left to speculation. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 20:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Believe me. I had a shiny Mewtwo in GSC through my own stupidity. It's green, Yami. You can't deny game sprites. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:41, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

::::I'm not debating it, I'm just wondering why mine were black on both the GBC screen and stadium 2 in both the 3D stadium and during Gameboy Mode. I'm not sure how we obtained these sprites, but could there have been some corruption either on the ripper of the sprites end. Or is its on my end because i mutated a red gyarados into the mewtwo. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 20:47, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::I can't explain that... I just know that Mewtwo is black in Stadium 2 3D. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

:::::So should we add that little trivia, i mean we have you and me who can vouch for Mewtwo being black in the stadium 2. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 20:54, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::Yeah I'll do it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:58, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

:Unlike most others, I might know the reason to this. While I don't know how it works in the Generation II games, I know how it works in the Gen III games, and it should hypothetically work in a similar way in the Gen II games. Anyways, due to the data structure in those games, a sprite can oly have accessibility to a certain, preprogrammed combination of 16 colors at a time. Due to this, there are over 1500 (!) combinations of colors possible, for each sprite, and also has the positions of their colors possible. While the data normally gives the Pokémon, upon first encounter, it gives them combination #596, the normal color, with a slight chance of combination #597, the alternate color, appearing. If the game is hacked or cheated to let a Pokémon of another combination appear it will, ofcourse, appear in that color. Hypothetically, it should work in a similar way in the Gen II games. If so, there's a possibility is that they added all thos colors to Stadium to prevent crashing the game if that Pokémon would be sent to it. - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Pokémon Lover King Mario}} ([[User talk:Pokémon Lover King Mario|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pokémon Lover King Mario|contribs]]) ''

== Mesuda Method ==

I have been seeing things on the web about the "Masuda Method". Supposedly the chance of receiving a shiny pokemon is 1/2048 when you hatch an egg if the parents are from different countries. I have no proof of this, however as it is not on the talk pages yet, I was wondering if anyone here could confirm whether this is true or not. The original post that started this is here http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir_english/?p=30. - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Link3710}} ([[User talk:Link3710|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Link3710|contribs]]) ''
:We actually have an article about that. I should know, {{tt|I wrote most of it|so if it's wrong let me know - I haven't experienced this for myself}}! It just isn't linked to by anywhere yet.... I'll get to it xD — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:30, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

== Colosseum and XD ==
Is it possible for the pokemon you snag in Pokemon Colosseum and Pokemon XD to be Shiny? If so, how is it indicated on the status screen and when they are released. I was so convinced my Growlithe in XD was shiny but it was just a light color and ultraballs give yellow goldy orange stars when they are released... it really bummed me out because I thought it was the first shiny I have ever seen and Owned... -- [[User:D558|D558]] 00:21, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

== The term "shiny" confirmed as official? ==

The GTS tutorial at http://www.pokemon-gts.net/gtstutorial/en-US/ has a page about [[Masuda method]]. This page refers to Shiny Pokémon - is this the first time an official English source uses this term? (Go to Trading Pokémon over GTS, then GTS features, then page 5 to see the reference.) '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 13:54, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:Oh yeah, I don't have a clue when that tutorial thingie came first there, but I'm absolutely sure it wasn't there a couple of weeks ago. Had to go to check if they had anything interesting there :D '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 14:04, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::Pokémon.com's mailbag's used the term more than once. It would seem that if Shiny Pokémon is a fan tern, it's one that Nintendo recognizes, which is rare. I think the term is official. Shall I move the page to "Shiny Pokémon"? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 14:16, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I'd vote for moving the page, though I don't know if the page move should go first through an admin (since this is a fairly often-linked page, over 500 pages link here). '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 14:18, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::The way I see it, while we fix the links, the current page is gonna be a redirect anyway. I don't see why not, official websites have used the term, so.... Yeah, I'll move the page. If it gets reverted, then we'll leave it. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 16:05, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

:::::Actually, are the usages of "shiny" in the Mailbag in the questions only, or do they appear in the answers as well? If it's the former, then the page should absolutely NOT be moved from "alternate coloration". As far as I can tell, "alternate coloration" is indeed the official terminology, and there's very little that would say otherwise. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:43, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::I don't know about those, but the GTS tutorial, which I believe to be official Nintendo material, uses the term "shiny", and that was the sole point of my original question whether that should be considered official. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 16:49, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::About the mailbag, it was the answers that used the term. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 17:30, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Interesting. The URL of the ad for the Pikachu-colored Pichu promotion contains the word "shiny": http://www.pokemon.com/us/special/shiny_pichu
Also, check out "The Prima guides" section of this talk page. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:09, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== The Title Dispute ==
I disagree with the move for one reason: shiny is only focusing on shiny Pokemon. Alternate coloration can imply any other colors of Pokemon such as [[Pink Butterfree]]. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 16:25, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== In the Anime ==

I think we ought to have a [[List of Shiny Pokémon in the anime]], in which we can go more in-depth on them than we do in this article. What say you people? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 13:24, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
:<s>Missingno. Master, I agree with you, but we have a section about it. And if we were to add such a page, Do you have any idea how small It would be? And how could we get more in depth?</s> Tought it through and Sounds like a good idea to me. :D [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 00:56, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::Don't we already have one? --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 00:58, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:::No, but we have a section, on the page. We do need {{tt|more|some}} Information about these Pokémon. Hell, ''I'' don't know what the Metegross from ''Noodle's: Roaming off!'' has to do with the storyline at all. Besides, the page doesn't even have a bit of info about these Pokémon at all. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 01:06, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Exactly the reason I suggested this. Editing the information on them into the page would make it even bigger than it is. In fact, I think I might start on this page right now. Well, actually, not yet. Perhaps tomorrow... [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 01:25, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny ==

I have saw a shiny {{p|Sharpedo}} on the GTS before.Also,I caught a shiny {{p|Bidoof}},(I didn`t use Action Replay when i caught it).I have a big question,If I have a male shiny and a regular female,what would be the odds that the offspring is shiny.[[User:LucarioWolf|The Aura Wolf !!!!]] 12:23, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
:The odds are the same in Generations III and IV. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 12:44, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
::The odds wouldn't change, even if the parents are both shiny. The chances of gettin a shiny egg are the same as findin one in the wild. Unless, of course, your usin Platinum. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 17:21, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
:Actually, I just remembered about the Masuda Method. If that Sharpedo is foreign or breeds with a foreign Pokémon, the odds will decrease in Generation IV. And what do you mean about using Platinum ShinyPikachu? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 17:55, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
::Look on Plt's page. See where it mentions about the PRNG (pesudo-random number generator) being "broken' making it easier to breed shiny Pokémon? [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 18:06, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

== First gen. ==

I heard if you trade a Pokemon from a first generation game to a second generation game, or transfer a Pokemon from a first generation game to Stadium 2, they might appear as shiny. That's true, right, due to shininess being attributed to IVs? On an unrelated side note, Jigglypuffs "straw hat"..Isn't that Leaf's hat? I don't own Brawl, so I wouldn't know, but I heard it is. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 23:45, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
:Yes and yes. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:02, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

== Colored vs Shiny ==

Maybe we should just have a separate page for color variations that are in the anime that don't correspond to "shininess"? It's implied, IIRC, that pokemon come in a range of colors in the anime, such as the Orange Islands pokemon. [[User:Yamikuronue|Yamikuronue]] 15:33, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
:This page was once known as alternate coloration, which included all of this. Would it be reasonable to revert the move? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:41, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
::It should be... but when Missingno Master (I believe) moved it, all users decided that everything should be that way and thus changed all the links... we could undo and what not if we can find the changes. However, I think an admin would need to confirm this. Missingno Master approved of reverting the move, so... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 14:17, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Let's have a new vote. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:20, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::I don't think it's necessary though... just as I said before, Missingno Master moved it, and then agreed to what I said. It's [[User talk:Missingno. Master/Archive10#Redirect|here]]. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 18:13, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::So split it into 2 pages? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:49, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::That's a different matter, now isn't it? Personally, I think that the second page is necessary I guess... I mean, we have a link to alternately colored Pokémon in the anime. It seems a tad bit out of place. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 19:01, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::: MM said "Yeah, that's true. Maybe make another page for Pokémon that are oddly colored, but not shiny" so isn't that the same matter? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 19:05, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Subpage then? Shiny is considered alternate-colored I guess... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 19:07, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::So these are the situations: 1. move back 2. split into 2 pages or make subpage out of shiny 3. Remove all alternate coloration references that aren't shiny in the page. I think 1 is the best as shiny is alternate coloration. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 19:10, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::Shininess is, IMO, a cause of alternate coloration - as opposed to, say, natural variation or berries, which are both anime-only. [[User:Yamikuronue|Yamikuronue]] 23:33, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

== Shiny vs. shiny ==

VGC website uses "Shiny", but should we? It just seems... odd. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:33, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
:TTE, what about Spiky? Are we still deciding whether it's -eared or -Eared? I mean, it's up to you, but we've been used to the former for a while. Same scenario here as well. I say revert though for both. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:52, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
::I think we should wait for another source. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:20, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
:::That's the thing. We have so many sources even within the Pokémon.com system which has different spellings. It's up to us to decide in a sense. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:47, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh. I'm gonna have to go with shiny. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:50, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::Just sent TPCi an e-mail asking about this.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 21:00, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

I do not understand: ''The Pokédex, when checked through the menu, never shows shiny variants of a Pokémon... However, if a Pokémon is first caught with an alternate color, the Pokédex entry that comes after the catch will show the Pokémon with its alternate colors in the corner.'' [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:02, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

I think it may refer to a certain Pokédex, but I don't get it either. [[User:Swampert Man|Swampert Man]][[User talk:Swampert Man|''Swampert'']] [[Special:Contributions/Swampert Man|''is Awesome!'']] 03:06, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:It means that if you manually look up the entry it will show the normal colouration, whether you have seen the normal colours or not. However if the first one you see is shiny and you catch it, then the entry that is automatically displayed will show the shiny sprite. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:08, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::That doesn't seem to be the case when traded though, right? Just clarifying here, what with the event Pichu I received. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:10, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I don't know, I haven't got around to transfering PCP over yet. I just remember seeing someone explain it somewhere. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:32, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

== Shiny Stats ==

I've heard plenty of myths and talk saying a shiny Pokémon is stronger than a regular Pokémon of the same species. For example, a shiny Zubat will have higher stats than a regular Zubat of the same level, nature, EV's and IV's etc. Is this true? [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 21:11, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Bulbapedia talk:Spading

2010-07-08T20:41:59Z

FrozenStrategy: I hate riddles!

This page seems like it would be more at home in the Appendix: namespace than the Bulbapedia: one. Any thoughts? --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 04:09, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:Well, it could go either way. Appendix seems like it'd work, too, but stuff in the Appendix namespace usually gets ignored. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:38, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

:I would also like tags for the top of pages that inform users that there's an open question to be solved for that page. See [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php?title=Orcish_meat_locker&oldid=332165 this wiki] for an example. Would this be too intrusive?
:I'm glad that this is being accepted so far. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 12:46, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::I take back what I said about the appendix. You guys seem to be doing good work. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 01:41, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== Confusion ==

Confusion seems to be determined by the attack stats, as seen by the move swagger. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 07:15, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:Well, I know ''that'', but that's not enough to calculate the damage. Struggle, for example, had a power of 50 in at least one of the games (I think). --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 21:16, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::If I remember correctly, it's written that it's a 40-power ???-type move. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:21, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
::[[Talk:Status ailment]]. But if that's the case, would that therefore be the move in space 000?! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:23, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

== Breeding ==
I read somewhere that there eggs' counters are only decremented every time 255 steps are taken. Some sort of global step counter. I think it said something like, it goes through the party, and if it is an egg, decrement the counter by one. Using Magma Armor or Flame Body simply decrements the eggs' counters by two instead of one. However, when it goes through the party, if one of the counters reaches zero, the egg hatches, and the counter doesn't visit any of the other eggs. Therefore if more than one egg in the party is just about ready to hatch (counter is 1), when 255 steps are taken, one hatches, but the others' counters are not decremented, so another 255 steps must be taken before the counter goes off again. It also said that picking up an egg from the daycare man resets the global step counter. I'm not sure where I heard all this, but it was probably Smogon again. I haven't thoroughly tested this, but it seems to be how it works in practice. [[User:Laoris|Laoris]] 05:47, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:Oops, I should have read the Pokémon Breeding page first. This probably should have been there anyway. Guess Raijinili mentioned the Smogon guide already. [[User:Laoris|Laoris]] 06:06, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
::As for why the 255 step thing exists: Happiness increases by 1 for each 255 steps. Eggs hatching are based on their hHappiness value, from what I read. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:27, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

== Shard ==

I need solid proof that one cannot transfer the Sun and Moon Shards from XD to R/S/E/FR/LG/E, and then to D/P/Pt. Anyone? [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 16:49, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

:The Sun Shard and the Moon Shard are [[key items]], in the Key Items pocket. Key items can't be held or transferred to other games regardless of generation or platform. I don't know why anyone would even suggest the Sun Shard and Moon Shard are transferrable, since one would know they're clearly not once they know they're key items...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:52, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
::Yep, Key items. Cannot be held either. Also, it is very hard to not use those items up as every Eevee I've turned Espeon or Umbreon has evolved first chance. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 17:07, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:::I've always wondered if those were transferable... but I guess not. [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 15:33, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
::::No, they are not key items, but they are like the colognes. They are items like others, but lack of the option to be held. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 18:19, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

:::::Uh, last I checked, both the Sun Shard and the Moon Shard were indeed key items. They go directly into the Key Items pocket, and that's the quality that defines them as key items. They're not like the colognes, which go in a separate case. Trust me, if the Sun Shard and Moon Shard were not key items, then they wouldn't be listed on the [[list of key items in Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]], which lists all of the key items in that game.

:::::Additionally, even if the Sun Shard and Moon Shard weren't key items, they could have still been made nontransferrable. The [[Time Flute]] from Colosseum and [[Poké Snack]] from XD were in the Items pocket and could not be held. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:55, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

== Platinum forms ==

When going to Wi-fi, Giratina's Platinum Orb is taken off and Shaymin reverts to Land Forme. It's part of the games coding based from what I read some time ago. *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 01:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

== Deoxys Problems ==

After owning Pokémon Sapphire and XD, I decided to buy Pokémon Ruby, so I bought a used copy of the game. Before clearing the save data of the game, I decided to look at the Pokémon the previous owner had, and, surprise, surprise! It had Deoxys! I can easily trade it from Ruby to Sapphire and vice-versa. But, for some reasons, I can't trade it to ANY other Gen III game other than Ruby or Sapphire. I have tried trading it to XD, Colosseum and the Gen I remakes, and it says "NOT ABLE" for some unknown reason. Can anyone give me an explanation (and most importantly, a solution) for this? -[[User:Darkangelsv1|Darkangelsv1]] 23:12, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
:Have you tried, um... migrating it?--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 23:14, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
::Because of that Deoxys has been caught by cheating. Giveaway ones (and Birth island ones too) have a flag set that allows Deoxys to become obedient to its trainer and also gives the ability to trade it to other games. Your Deoxys obeys you, because the obedience flag doesn't exist in Ruby/Sapphire (although the Trade one does) and it can be perfectly migrated, but won't obey you whatsoever in D/P. This trading problem also occurs with Mew, Jirachi and Celebi and the obedience problem happens also with Mew. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 23:35, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
:::So it was A HACK? Aww, man! Meh, well. Leason learned, never get Event Pokémon from used games, unless used Gen IV games with event legendaries . And I thought it was my first legitimate event legendary. Well, thanks for the help.--[[User:Darkangelsv1|Darkangelsv1]] 01:49, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
::::My hacked Deoxys from Ruby traded and migrated fine... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:12, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

== Mimic x Sketch ==

I'll check this on an emulator right away. (Gen II, someone may like to experiment it in other Gens too) '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 19:26, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Luxury Ball ==

Does the Luxury Ball effect happiness? If so by how much?[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 04:44, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
:It's on the [[happiness]] page. The factor changes depending on what you're doing with the Pokemon. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 04:46, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
::AHA! Thank you--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 04:58, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
:::I made a note of it [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9_Ball#In_the_games here]. Also remember those time stamps! — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 04:55, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

== Turnback Cave ==

In Diamond/Pearl, I read somewhere that always going through the top exit will guarantee that you get through the cave. It won't get you straight to the next pillar, but it will get you there within 30 rooms. (And yes, I tested it myself - I think it took no more than 2-3 rooms per pillar to get to Giratina.) ←{'''[[User:Berrymaster|Berrymaster]]|[[User_talk:Berrymaster|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Berrymaster|Contrib]]'''}→ 01:42, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
:Thats math, not in game mechanics[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

I'm sure this is just extremely good luck, but the first time I went to Turnback in my Platinum Version, I took the top exit every time and it went to the pillar every time, meaning I got a Reaper Cloth there before I even got the Griseous Orb.--[[User:Heyyopat|Heyyopat]] 17:56, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
:I'd say luck if you can't replicate it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:22, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

== Stockpile ==

Can stockpile be baton passed out? The effects of the defense and sp defense gains would probably be passed, but does the numbers of turns passed. EG smeargle uses two stockpiles and then baton passes out, into a mawile and when it stockpiles and will it spit up with 300 base power?? or just 100??--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 07:36, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

== Moveset... ==

What is Colosseum and XD's movesets based on: their own, FRLG, or RSE? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:18, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

== Nightmare ==

My bro used Nightmare on a sleeping pokemon and twice in a row it woke up(he used it twice,on sleeping pokemon).Does Nightmare increase the chances of a pokemon waking up(makes sense,does it not?),or is just unlucky?----Cycloneblaze-- 16:43, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

== Stones ==

If you give a Pokémon that evolves via stone (Eevee, for example) an Everstone to hold and then use the evolutionary stone on it, (Let's just go with a Water Stone for now) will it evolve into Vaporeon or would the stone have no effect? [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 20:41, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Hoenn Route 119

2010-07-05T15:06:05Z

FrozenStrategy: /* Feebas Random Squares */

== Feebas Random Squares ==
How are the random 6 squares decided? Do they change, and if so, how? Is there a way to determine which squares contain any Feebas '''without''' having to fish for three weeks? If anyone knows the answers to any of these questions, I'll put them on the article and the Feebas article if it would help. [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 14:39, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

:It's well known that the {{OBP|Trendy Phrase|Dewford}} is the trigger that determines how the tiles are chosen. As far as I'm concerned, the water tiles are selected randomly each time they shuffle. There's no real easy way to go around combing the tiles for Feebas, although I highly doubt it would take someone who knows what they're doing three weeks to find Feebas--in fact, the Trendy Phrase might change itself during that timeframe and throw off someone's progress! --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:57, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

::Okay, maybe 3 weeks was a bit too exaggerated. Point is, I've been trying to get the % chance and I haven't found a single one in about an hour. So far, I've combed through about 2/3 of the small-ish pool of water near the south of the route. How often does the Trendy Phrase change on it's own? [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 15:06, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Hoenn Route 119

2010-07-05T14:39:52Z

FrozenStrategy: Created page with '== Feebas Random Squares == How are the random 6 squares decided? Do they change, and if so, how? Is there a way to determine which squares contain any Feebas '''without''' havin…'

Talk:Pikachu (Pokémon)

2010-07-04T20:09:36Z

FrozenStrategy: /* Light Ball Stats */

Talk:Lilycove City

2010-07-04T19:55:28Z

FrozenStrategy: Sticky things...

== [[Pokémon Trainer Fan Club]] ==

Well, I noticed on the deletion log that this article was removed the final day of last year. (or week) And I'm wondering why it was. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 13:51, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

== Population ==

If its counting people shopping in the dept. store, its probably not right as they are day trippers (if you know what i mean) [[User:Maril and Co.|Maril and Co.]] 07:29, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

== Fishing ==

Why is it that there are only % statistics for hooking certain Pokémon when using the ''Old Rod''? What happened to all of the others? [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 22:39, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
:If you know the statistics, feel free to put them in, otherwise it's going to stay like this. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 23:05, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

== "Flavor Lady?" ==
In the Lilycove Pokémon Centre on Emerald there is a woman that looks like an Armoa Lady. She calls herself the "Flavor Lady" and asked me for something sticky. I had the option to give her something and chose an Oran Berry. Has anyone else met her? Does she do anything interesting? [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 19:55, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Pikachu (Pokémon)

2010-07-03T13:49:16Z

FrozenStrategy: Querying, because I'm not so useful after all...

Talk:Lilycove City

2010-07-02T22:39:39Z

FrozenStrategy: Nitpicking, as usual...

Talk:Zubat (Pokémon)/Generation III learnset

2010-06-26T13:34:28Z

FrozenStrategy:

I was playing a version of Emerald when my Zubat learned Wing Attack at level 21. Sadly, I don't understand tables and therefore feel that I would rather bring the issue up here instead than make a mistake editing the table. Also, if Wing Attack is incorrect, then the information on Confuse Ray (Which is was indicated to learn at level 21) may also be erroneous. Does anyone know which piece of information could be wrong?
'''EDIT:''' Upon further training, it learned Confuse Ray at level 26, so they were the wrong way around. However, being someone who struggles with tables, I would rather not attempt to make the change and cause the entire thing to go wrong. Could someone teach me how to edit them? Or at least change the information in this one? [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 13:34, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Zubat (Pokémon)/Generation III learnset

2010-06-26T13:15:34Z

FrozenStrategy: Table issues...

User talk:FrozenStrategy

2010-06-25T20:50:34Z

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:Ah, I didn't realise that. I knew there were templates I didn't recognise, so I decided to use the same code I use elsewhere. That would explain why I used the longer formatting. That's a great help. Thanks. [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 20:50, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Electric (type)

2010-06-25T11:36:21Z

FrozenStrategy: /* Characteristics */ Link fixing...

{{ElementalTypes|electric}}
{{TypeNotice|Electric|でんき|Denki}}
Some notable trainers that specialize in the Electric-type include the [[Gym Leader]]s [[Lt. Surge]] of [[Vermilion City]], [[Wattson]] of [[Mauville City]] and [[Volkner]] of [[Sunyshore City]].

==Statistical averages==
===Overall===
{{BaseStatNoCat|
type=electric|
HP=61 |
Attack=58 |
Defense=55 |
SpAtk=84 |
SpDef=68 |
Speed=85 }}

===Fully evolved===
{{BaseStatNoCat|
type=electric|
HP=67.75 |
Attack=70.55 |
Defense=78.55 |
SpAtk=87.80 |
SpDef=89.35 |
Speed=92.15 }}


==Battle properties==
{{typebattle
|type=Electric
|weakto1=Ground
|resist1=Electric
|resist2=Flying
|resist3=Steel
|weaken1=Flying
|weaken2=Water
|resisted1=Dragon
|resisted2=Electric
|resisted3=Grass
|noeffect1=Ground
}}

==Characteristics==

In battle, Electric-types can prove useful as both offensive and defensive players. Electric types make for very good offensive Pokémon, as they have decent {{stat|Speed}} and high {{stat|Special Attack}} stats. Plus, Electric attacks come in handy against two very prominent types: {{t|Water}} and {{t|Flying}}. Although {{t|Grass}} is also super-effective against Water, many Water Pokémon eventually learn {{t|Ice}} moves and make using Grass a gamble, which makes Electric the safer choice.

From a defensive point of view, Electric-type Pokémon have their cons and pros . A handful of Electric-types have many resistances and few weaknesses.
Even as a single type, Electric has more resistances than weaknesses. However, [[Earthquake (move)|Earthquake]] is a very common move carried by physical attackers.

Despite this, some electric Pokémon have a good amount of HP and fairly high {{stat|Defense}}/{{stat|Special Defense}}. {{p|Zapdos}} and {{p|Magnezone}} are prime examples of Electric's defensive capabilities. Zapdos is able to avoid Electric's one weakness, ground, via its secondary type, Flying. Magnezone makes a splendid defensive player, as it has a whopping 12 resistances, {{t|Poison|one immunity}} and can get rid of its {{t|Ground|double weakness}} through the use of the move {{m|Magnet Rise}}.

In contests, Electric-type moves are usually [[Cool Contest|Cool]], but no Electric move is considered [[Tough Contest|Tough]].

In total, there are 28 Electric-type Pokémon.

==Pokémon==
===Pure Electric-type Pokémon===
{| {| align="center" style="background: #{{electric color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{electric color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" align="center" class="sortable" style="background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{electric color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{electric color light}};"
! #
!
! Name
|-
|025
|{{MS|025|Pikachu (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Pikachu}}
|-
|026
|{{MS|026|Raichu (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Raichu}}
|-
|100
|{{MS|100|Voltorb (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Voltorb}}
|-
|101
|{{MS|101|Electrode (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Electrode}}
|-
|125
|{{MS|125|Electabuzz (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Electabuzz}}
|-
|135
|{{MS|135|Jolteon (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Jolteon}}
|-
|172
|{{MS|172|Pichu (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Pichu}}
|-
|179
|{{MS|179|Mareep (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Mareep}}
|-
|180
|{{MS|180|Flaaffy (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Flaaffy}}
|-
|181
|{{MS|181|Ampharos (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Ampharos}}
|-
|239
|{{MS|239|Elekid (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Elekid}}
|-
|243
|{{MS|243|Raikou (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Raikou}}
|-
|309
|{{MS|309|Electrike (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Electrike}}
|-
|310
|{{MS|310|Manectric (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Manectric}}
|-
|311
|{{MS|311|Plusle (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Plusle}}
|-
|312
|{{MS|312|Minun (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Minun}}
|-
|403
|{{MS|403|Shinx (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Shinx}}
|-
|404
|{{MS|404|Luxio (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Luxio}}
|-
|405
|{{MS|405|Luxray (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Luxray}}
|-
|417
|{{MS|417|Pachirisu (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Pachirisu}}
|-
|466
|{{MS|466|Electivire (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Electivire}}
|}
|}

===Half Electric-type Pokémon===
''Primary Electric-type Pokémon''
{| {| align="center" style="background: #{{electric color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{electric color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" align="center" class="sortable" style="background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{electric color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{electric color light}};"
! #
!
! Name
! Type 1
! Type 2
|-
|081
|{{MS|081|Magnemite (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Magnemite}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
|-
|082
|{{MS|082|Magneton (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Magneton}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
|-
|145
|{{MS|145|Zapdos (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Zapdos}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|462
|{{MS|462|Magnezone (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Magnezone}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
|-
|479
|{{MS|479|Rotom (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Rotom}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
|}
|}

''Secondary Electric-type Pokémon''
{| {| align="center" style="background: #{{electric color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{electric color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" align="center" class="sortable" style="background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{electric color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{electric color light}};"
! #
!
! Name
! Type 1
! Type 2
|-
|170
|{{MS|170|Chinchou (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Chinchou}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
|-
|171
|{{MS|171|Lanturn (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Lanturn}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
|}
|}

==Moves==
===Damage-dealing moves===
{| {| align="center" width="100%" style="background: #{{electric color}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{electric color light}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" align="center" class="sortable" style="background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{electric color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background:#{{electric color light}}"
! Name
! Category
! Contest
! Power
! Accuracy
! PP
! Target
! Notes
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Charge Beam}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
{{Contesttable|Beauty}}
| class="c" | 50
| class="c" | 90%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One Foe
| class="l" | Has a 70% chance of raising the user's {{stat|Special Attack}} one stage.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Discharge}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 80
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | Everyone Else
| class="l" | Has a 30% chance of causing {{status|Paralysis|paralysis}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Shock Wave}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 60
| class="c" | —%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | One Foe
| class="l" | Never Misses.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Spark}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 65
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | One Foe
| class="l" | Has a 30% chance of causing {{status|Paralysis|paralysis}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Thunder}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 120
| class="c" | 70%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One Foe
| class="l" | Has a 10% chance of {{status|Paralysis|paralyzing}} the opponent.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Thunder Fang}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Smart}}
| class="c" | 65
| class="c" | 95%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | One Foe
| class="l" | Has a 10% chance of {{status|Paralysis|paralyzing}} the opponent and cause {{status|Flinch|flinching}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Thunderbolt}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 95
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | One Foe
| class="l" | Has a 10% chance of {{status|Paralysis|paralyzing}} the opponent.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|ThunderPunch}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 75
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | One Foe
| class="l" | Has a 10% chance of {{status|Paralysis|paralyzing}} the opponent.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|ThunderShock}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 40
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 30
| class="c" | One Foe
| class="l" | Has a 10% chance of {{status|Paralysis|paralyzing}} the opponent.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Volt Tackle}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 120
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | One Foe
| class="l" | User takes 33% recoil damage.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Zap Cannon}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 120
| class="c" | 50%
| class="c" | 5
| class="c" | One Foe
| class="l" | {{status|Paralysis|Paralyzes}} the opponent.
|}
|}

===Non-damaging moves===
{| {| align="center" width="100%" style="background: #{{electric color}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{electric color light}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" align="center" class="sortable" style="background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{electric color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background:#{{electric color light}}"
! Name
! Category
! Contest
! Power
! Accuracy
! PP
! Target
! Notes
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Charge}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
{{Contesttable|Smart}}
| class="c" | —
| class="c" | —%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | User
| class="l" | Boosts the power of the Electric move it uses next. It also raises the user's {{stat|Special Defense}} stat.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Magnet Rise}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
{{Contesttable|Cute}}
| class="c" | —
| class="c" | —%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | User
| class="l" | The user becomes immune to {{type2|Ground}} attacks for five turns.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Thunder Wave}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | —
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | One Foe
| class="l" | {{status|Paralysis|Paralyzes}} the opponent.
|}
|}

==Trivia==
* In the anime, the Electric-type has had some degree of exclusivity with Ash, as his {{AP|Pikachu}} was the only Electric-type Pokémon owned by a main character up until {{an|Dawn}} captured {{TP|Dawn|Pachirisu}} in ''[[DP019|Twice Smitten, Once Shy]]''.
* Each Electric-type Gym Leader is seen wearing a military-style outfit; Lt. Surge wears a uniform reminiscent of that of {{wp|Vietnam War|Vietnam}} soldiers, Wattson wears what appears to be an aviator's jacket, and Volkner wears what appears to be a military uniform similar to that of the dress uniform of Turkish troops.
** In addition, all Electric-type Gym Leaders have been male so far.
* Every generation has introduced at least one Electric-type Pokémon whose names begin with the letters E, M, and P. Coincidentally, these letters, when put together, form the abbreviation for an {{wp|electromagnetic pulse|electricity-related phenomenon}}.
* In [[Generation III]], all Electric moves were [[Cool]] moves except for {{m|Charge}}.
* There is yet to be a Pokémon with double resistance to the Electric-type, though there are multiple types which do resist it.
* Every dual typed Electric-type Pokémon has a [[type]] [[List of Pokémon with unique type combinations|combination]] unique to itself or to other members of its family.
* Out of all types, the Electric-type is the most unpaired, with only seven dual-type Electric Pokémon. Five among these belong to the only three-stage dual-typed Electric family ({{p|Magnemite}}'s) and the only two-stage dual-typed Electric family ({{p|Chinchou}}'s), while the other two are only available from the wild once per game.
* Generation I introduced the most amount of Electric-type Pokémon, a total of 9. Generation II introduced 8, Generation IV introduced 7 and Generation III introduced the least, only 4.

==In other languages==
* Chinese: '''電''' ''diàn''
* Dutch: '''Elektrisch'''
* Finnish: '''Sähkö'''
* French: '''Electrik'''
* German: '''Elektro'''
* Hebrew: '''חשמל''' ''hashmal''
* Italian: '''Elettro'''
* Japanese: '''でんき''' (電気) ''denki''
* Korean: '''전기''' ''jeon'gi''
* Polish: '''Elektryczny'''
* Portuguese (Brazilian): '''Elétrico'''
* Russian: '''Электрический''' ''elektricheskii''
* Spanish: '''Eléctrico'''

[[de:Elektro (Typ)]]
[[es:Tipo Eléctrico]]
[[fr:Électrique]]
[[ja:でんき]]
[[pl:Pokémony elektryczne]]
[[pt:Tipo Elétrico]]

Electric (type)

2010-06-25T11:27:49Z

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{{ElementalTypes|electric}}
{{TypeNotice|Electric|でんき|Denki}}
Some notable trainers that specialize in the Electric-type include the [[Gym Leader]]s [[Lt. Surge]] of [[Vermilion City]], [[Wattson]] of [[Mauville City]] and [[Volkner]] of [[Sunyshore City]].

==Statistical averages==
===Overall===
{{BaseStatNoCat|
type=electric|
HP=61 |
Attack=58 |
Defense=55 |
SpAtk=84 |
SpDef=68 |
Speed=85 }}

===Fully evolved===
{{BaseStatNoCat|
type=electric|
HP=67.75 |
Attack=70.55 |
Defense=78.55 |
SpAtk=87.80 |
SpDef=89.35 |
Speed=92.15 }}


==Battle properties==
{{typebattle
|type=Electric
|weakto1=Ground
|resist1=Electric
|resist2=Flying
|resist3=Steel
|weaken1=Flying
|weaken2=Water
|resisted1=Dragon
|resisted2=Electric
|resisted3=Grass
|noeffect1=Ground
}}

==Characteristics==

In battle, Electric-types can prove useful as both offensive and defensive players. Electric types make for very good offensive Pokémon, as they have decent {{stat|Speed}} and high {{stat|Special Attack}} stats. Plus, Electric attacks come in handy against two very prominent types: {{t|Water}} and {{t|Flying}}. Although {{t|Grass}} is also super-effective against Water, many Water Pokémon eventually learn {{t|Ice}} moves and make using Grass a gamble, which makes Electric the safer choice.

From a defensive point of view, Electric-type Pokémon have their cons and pros . A handful of Electric-types have many resistances and few weaknesses.
Even as a single type, Electric has more resistances than weaknesses. However, [[Earthquake (Move)|Earthquake]] is a very common move carried by physical attackers.

Despite this, some electric Pokémon have a good amount of HP and fairly high {{stat|Defense}}/{{stat|Special Defense}}. {{p|Zapdos}} and {{p|Magnezone}} are prime examples of Electric's defensive capabilities. Zapdos is able to avoid Electric's one weakness, ground, via its secondary type, Flying. Magnezone makes a splendid defensive player, as it has a whopping 12 resistances, {{t|Poison|one immunity}} and can get rid of its {{t|Ground|double weakness}} through the use of the move {{m|Magnet Rise}}.

In contests, Electric-type moves are usually [[Cool Contest|Cool]], but no Electric move is considered [[Tough Contest|Tough]].

In total, there are 28 Electric-type Pokémon.

==Pokémon==
===Pure Electric-type Pokémon===
{| {| align="center" style="background: #{{electric color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{electric color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" align="center" class="sortable" style="background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{electric color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{electric color light}};"
! #
!
! Name
|-
|025
|{{MS|025|Pikachu (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Pikachu}}
|-
|026
|{{MS|026|Raichu (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Raichu}}
|-
|100
|{{MS|100|Voltorb (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Voltorb}}
|-
|101
|{{MS|101|Electrode (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Electrode}}
|-
|125
|{{MS|125|Electabuzz (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Electabuzz}}
|-
|135
|{{MS|135|Jolteon (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Jolteon}}
|-
|172
|{{MS|172|Pichu (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Pichu}}
|-
|179
|{{MS|179|Mareep (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Mareep}}
|-
|180
|{{MS|180|Flaaffy (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Flaaffy}}
|-
|181
|{{MS|181|Ampharos (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Ampharos}}
|-
|239
|{{MS|239|Elekid (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Elekid}}
|-
|243
|{{MS|243|Raikou (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Raikou}}
|-
|309
|{{MS|309|Electrike (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Electrike}}
|-
|310
|{{MS|310|Manectric (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Manectric}}
|-
|311
|{{MS|311|Plusle (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Plusle}}
|-
|312
|{{MS|312|Minun (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Minun}}
|-
|403
|{{MS|403|Shinx (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Shinx}}
|-
|404
|{{MS|404|Luxio (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Luxio}}
|-
|405
|{{MS|405|Luxray (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Luxray}}
|-
|417
|{{MS|417|Pachirisu (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Pachirisu}}
|-
|466
|{{MS|466|Electivire (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Electivire}}
|}
|}

===Half Electric-type Pokémon===
''Primary Electric-type Pokémon''
{| {| align="center" style="background: #{{electric color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{electric color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" align="center" class="sortable" style="background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{electric color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{electric color light}};"
! #
!
! Name
! Type 1
! Type 2
|-
|081
|{{MS|081|Magnemite (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Magnemite}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
|-
|082
|{{MS|082|Magneton (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Magneton}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
|-
|145
|{{MS|145|Zapdos (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Zapdos}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|462
|{{MS|462|Magnezone (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Magnezone}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
|-
|479
|{{MS|479|Rotom (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Rotom}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
|}
|}

''Secondary Electric-type Pokémon''
{| {| align="center" style="background: #{{electric color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{electric color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" align="center" class="sortable" style="background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{electric color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{electric color light}};"
! #
!
! Name
! Type 1
! Type 2
|-
|170
|{{MS|170|Chinchou (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Chinchou}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
|-
|171
|{{MS|171|Lanturn (Pokémon)}}
|{{p|Lanturn}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
|}
|}

==Moves==
===Damage-dealing moves===
{| {| align="center" width="100%" style="background: #{{electric color}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{electric color light}};"
|-
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{| border=1 width="100%" align="center" class="sortable" style="background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{electric color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background:#{{electric color light}}"
! Name
! Category
! Contest
! Power
! Accuracy
! PP
! Target
! Notes
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Charge Beam}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
{{Contesttable|Beauty}}
| class="c" | 50
| class="c" | 90%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One Foe
| class="l" | Has a 70% chance of raising the user's {{stat|Special Attack}} one stage.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Discharge}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 80
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | Everyone Else
| class="l" | Has a 30% chance of causing {{status|Paralysis|paralysis}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Shock Wave}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 60
| class="c" | —%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | One Foe
| class="l" | Never Misses.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Spark}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 65
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | One Foe
| class="l" | Has a 30% chance of causing {{status|Paralysis|paralysis}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Thunder}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 120
| class="c" | 70%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One Foe
| class="l" | Has a 10% chance of {{status|Paralysis|paralyzing}} the opponent.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Thunder Fang}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Smart}}
| class="c" | 65
| class="c" | 95%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | One Foe
| class="l" | Has a 10% chance of {{status|Paralysis|paralyzing}} the opponent and cause {{status|Flinch|flinching}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Thunderbolt}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 95
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | One Foe
| class="l" | Has a 10% chance of {{status|Paralysis|paralyzing}} the opponent.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|ThunderPunch}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 75
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | One Foe
| class="l" | Has a 10% chance of {{status|Paralysis|paralyzing}} the opponent.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|ThunderShock}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 40
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 30
| class="c" | One Foe
| class="l" | Has a 10% chance of {{status|Paralysis|paralyzing}} the opponent.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Volt Tackle}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 120
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | One Foe
| class="l" | User takes 33% recoil damage.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Zap Cannon}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 120
| class="c" | 50%
| class="c" | 5
| class="c" | One Foe
| class="l" | {{status|Paralysis|Paralyzes}} the opponent.
|}
|}

===Non-damaging moves===
{| {| align="center" width="100%" style="background: #{{electric color}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{electric color light}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" align="center" class="sortable" style="background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{electric color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background:#{{electric color light}}"
! Name
! Category
! Contest
! Power
! Accuracy
! PP
! Target
! Notes
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Charge}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
{{Contesttable|Smart}}
| class="c" | —
| class="c" | —%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | User
| class="l" | Boosts the power of the Electric move it uses next. It also raises the user's {{stat|Special Defense}} stat.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Magnet Rise}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
{{Contesttable|Cute}}
| class="c" | —
| class="c" | —%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | User
| class="l" | The user becomes immune to {{type2|Ground}} attacks for five turns.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Thunder Wave}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | —
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | One Foe
| class="l" | {{status|Paralysis|Paralyzes}} the opponent.
|}
|}

==Trivia==
* In the anime, the Electric-type has had some degree of exclusivity with Ash, as his {{AP|Pikachu}} was the only Electric-type Pokémon owned by a main character up until {{an|Dawn}} captured {{TP|Dawn|Pachirisu}} in ''[[DP019|Twice Smitten, Once Shy]]''.
* Each Electric-type Gym Leader is seen wearing a military-style outfit; Lt. Surge wears a uniform reminiscent of that of {{wp|Vietnam War|Vietnam}} soldiers, Wattson wears what appears to be an aviator's jacket, and Volkner wears what appears to be a military uniform similar to that of the dress uniform of Turkish troops.
** In addition, all Electric-type Gym Leaders have been male so far.
* Every generation has introduced at least one Electric-type Pokémon whose names begin with the letters E, M, and P. Coincidentally, these letters, when put together, form the abbreviation for an {{wp|electromagnetic pulse|electricity-related phenomenon}}.
* In [[Generation III]], all Electric moves were [[Cool]] moves except for {{m|Charge}}.
* There is yet to be a Pokémon with double resistance to the Electric-type, though there are multiple types which do resist it.
* Every dual typed Electric-type Pokémon has a [[type]] [[List of Pokémon with unique type combinations|combination]] unique to itself or to other members of its family.
* Out of all types, the Electric-type is the most unpaired, with only seven dual-type Electric Pokémon. Five among these belong to the only three-stage dual-typed Electric family ({{p|Magnemite}}'s) and the only two-stage dual-typed Electric family ({{p|Chinchou}}'s), while the other two are only available from the wild once per game.
* Generation I introduced the most amount of Electric-type Pokémon, a total of 9. Generation II introduced 8, Generation IV introduced 7 and Generation III introduced the least, only 4.

==In other languages==
* Chinese: '''電''' ''diàn''
* Dutch: '''Elektrisch'''
* Finnish: '''Sähkö'''
* French: '''Electrik'''
* German: '''Elektro'''
* Hebrew: '''חשמל''' ''hashmal''
* Italian: '''Elettro'''
* Japanese: '''でんき''' (電気) ''denki''
* Korean: '''전기''' ''jeon'gi''
* Polish: '''Elektryczny'''
* Portuguese (Brazilian): '''Elétrico'''
* Russian: '''Электрический''' ''elektricheskii''
* Spanish: '''Eléctrico'''

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[[pt:Tipo Elétrico]]