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		<title>Talk:Rayquaza (Pokémon)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;Where did all the moves from before lv. 70 come from? And for Groudon and Kyogre, where did the ones before level 45 come from? Are they just speculation?--[[User:ObsessedMinunFan|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Obsessed&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User talk:ObsessedMinunFan|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Minun&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/ObsessedMinunFan|&amp;lt;font color =&amp;quot;gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Fan&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 02:06, 28 August 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s what the move tutor says it learns at those levels, I believe. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 02:53, 28 August 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I just got Rayguaza, Groudon, and Kyogre on Emerald yesterday, and I&#039;m looking at the Move Tutor thing right now. It doesn&#039;t list the levels anywhere. Is the person who posted them still active here?--[[User:ObsessedMinunFan|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Obsessed&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User talk:ObsessedMinunFan|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Minun&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/ObsessedMinunFan|&amp;lt;font color =&amp;quot;gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Fan&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 06:44, 28 August 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I believe people got that info by using a GameShark to get a very low level wild Rayquaza. That is the best way to get to know from what level the Pokémon learns the moves. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 12:28, 3 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== how are the status calculated ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
hi,&lt;br /&gt;
i would like to ask, how are the status graphic calculated, i mean i was trying to capt a pattern, but  I just could not, i mean max speed for groudon and Kyogre at lv.100 is 306 and it is represented as a 90 in the graphic. same for rayquaza, max attack an sp.attack is 438 at lv.100 and the graphic shows 150 for both stats. so, how can i calculate the equivalent for the other pokemon? Please help me with this... :S&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::See [[Stats#Formula]]. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 02:26, 19 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Rock Smash==&lt;br /&gt;
It doesn&#039;t learn Rock Smash in Generation 4? --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 02:26, 19 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It does. Someone must&#039;ve left it out. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;E&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 01:06, 4 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Speculation==&lt;br /&gt;
Well i was looking at the other 2 super-ancients and i thought, the markings on those 2 are, and this is proven in the anime, made by the orbs. and Rayquaza has similar markings, so does he have an, yet to be revealed, orb? [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 15:03, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t think his orb will be revealed any time soon. Because in the anime Ash travels to another region every 5 or so seasons. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 15:20, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::We&#039;ve gone past the third generation now so I would be surprised to see any further development on the weather trio. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Kyogre was in the Manaphy movie, so that makes me think that they won&#039;t be completely ignored.[[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 15:26, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That was still Generation III.  Of course they won&#039;t be ignored (see the Mismagius filler) but new information is being relegated to the Gen IV legends right now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:30, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Sure there is often new information revealed on older Pokémon (for example, the episodes where Misty returned new information about Togepi/Togetic became revealed) but new information regarding Legends is pretty rare, especially something big like orb. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 16:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Well, it would make a great part of a movie. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 14:48, 2 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It makes me wonder if there will be a movie to feature &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; the Legendaries battling it out to see who is the supreme Legendary.  I would definately see that.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;midnightblue&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;$aturn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;¥oshi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;maroon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE VOICES&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t think that would be possible, when the amount of Pokémon are growing so are legendaries. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 10:02, 4 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::True, the battle may just end up destroying everything anyway.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;midnightblue&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;$aturn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;¥oshi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;maroon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE VOICES&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It would be awesome though. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 21:54, 6 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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To get back to the topic about the markings: Maybe Rayquaza&#039;s markings are also created by the orbs? Rayquaza is part of the Weather Trio, so couldn&#039;t the orbs affect Rayquaza as well?  [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:56, 10 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don&#039;t think so; Groudon raised lands and Kyogre raised seas, what did rayquaza do? [[User:DragonTamer|DragonTamer]] 07:50, 21 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Although it wasn&#039;t stated in the show or games, Rayquaza could have done something with the ozone/atmosphere like raising oxygen levels to support more life.--&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:InuMimi|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#CC99CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;いぬ&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:InuMimi|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#CCCCCC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;みみ&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:50, 21 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sprite Changes? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Okay this might be nothing, but in the 3rd gen sprites inside it&#039;s mouth Rayquaza got Blue Color, while in the DP sprites inside it&#039;s like black or dark pink?&lt;br /&gt;
:I think its worth noting.ShinyPiKa 22:15, 12 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::So do I, add it to the trivia section if you&#039;d like. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Forgot to check back and see this discussion. In the first edit of this topic I didn&#039;t know I had to write my name, date and time. Sorry :/. [[User:Fidani16|Fidani16]] 16:12, 23 October 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Origin, Name Origin ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t see the resemblance of the Ziz in Rayquaza. I also don&#039;t see the resemblances of the Behemoth and the Leviathan in Groudon and Kyogre, respectively. Do we know where this information came from?? Can it be cited from anywhere?? I&#039;m just wondering where that information came from, because it does not seem very believable to me. And also, I don&#039;t understand how Rayquaza&#039;s name can be derived from &amp;quot;ray&amp;quot;... [[User:Bnjelinski|Soon to be Mrs. Shirley]] 14:13, 18 October 2008&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s not physical &#039;&#039;resemblance&#039;&#039; to Behemoth/Leviathan/Ziz, it&#039;s their thematic similarities. Both groups are huge, primordial monsters of land, sea, and sky.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;•&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 14:21, 18 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Rayquaza (Pokémon)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;Where did all the moves from before lv. 70 come from? And for Groudon and Kyogre, where did the ones before level 45 come from? Are they just speculation?--[[User:ObsessedMinunFan|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Obsessed&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User talk:ObsessedMinunFan|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Minun&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/ObsessedMinunFan|&amp;lt;font color =&amp;quot;gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Fan&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 02:06, 28 August 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s what the move tutor says it learns at those levels, I believe. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 02:53, 28 August 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I just got Rayguaza, Groudon, and Kyogre on Emerald yesterday, and I&#039;m looking at the Move Tutor thing right now. It doesn&#039;t list the levels anywhere. Is the person who posted them still active here?--[[User:ObsessedMinunFan|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Obsessed&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User talk:ObsessedMinunFan|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Minun&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/ObsessedMinunFan|&amp;lt;font color =&amp;quot;gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Fan&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 06:44, 28 August 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I believe people got that info by using a GameShark to get a very low level wild Rayquaza. That is the best way to get to know from what level the Pokémon learns the moves. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 12:28, 3 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== how are the status calculated ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
hi,&lt;br /&gt;
i would like to ask, how are the status graphic calculated, i mean i was trying to capt a pattern, but  I just could not, i mean max speed for groudon and Kyogre at lv.100 is 306 and it is represented as a 90 in the graphic. same for rayquaza, max attack an sp.attack is 438 at lv.100 and the graphic shows 150 for both stats. so, how can i calculate the equivalent for the other pokemon? Please help me with this... :S&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::See [[Stats#Formula]]. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 02:26, 19 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Rock Smash==&lt;br /&gt;
It doesn&#039;t learn Rock Smash in Generation 4? --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 02:26, 19 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It does. Someone must&#039;ve left it out. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;E&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 01:06, 4 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Speculation==&lt;br /&gt;
Well i was looking at the other 2 super-ancients and i thought, the markings on those 2 are, and this is proven in the anime, made by the orbs. and Rayquaza has similar markings, so does he have an, yet to be revealed, orb? [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 15:03, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t think his orb will be revealed any time soon. Because in the anime Ash travels to another region every 5 or so seasons. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 15:20, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::We&#039;ve gone past the third generation now so I would be surprised to see any further development on the weather trio. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Kyogre was in the Manaphy movie, so that makes me think that they won&#039;t be completely ignored.[[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 15:26, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That was still Generation III.  Of course they won&#039;t be ignored (see the Mismagius filler) but new information is being relegated to the Gen IV legends right now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:30, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Sure there is often new information revealed on older Pokémon (for example, the episodes where Misty returned new information about Togepi/Togetic became revealed) but new information regarding Legends is pretty rare, especially something big like orb. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 16:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Well, it would make a great part of a movie. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 14:48, 2 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It makes me wonder if there will be a movie to feature &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; the Legendaries battling it out to see who is the supreme Legendary.  I would definately see that.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;midnightblue&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;$aturn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;¥oshi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;maroon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE VOICES&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t think that would be possible, when the amount of Pokémon are growing so are legendaries. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 10:02, 4 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::True, the battle may just end up destroying everything anyway.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;midnightblue&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;$aturn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;¥oshi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;maroon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE VOICES&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It would be awesome though. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 21:54, 6 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To get back to the topic about the markings: Maybe Rayquaza&#039;s markings are also created by the orbs? Rayquaza is part of the Weather Trio, so couldn&#039;t the orbs affect Rayquaza as well?  [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:56, 10 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t think so; Groudon raised lands and Kyogre raised seas, what did rayquaza do? [[User:DragonTamer|DragonTamer]] 07:50, 21 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Although it wasn&#039;t stated in the show or games, Rayquaza could have done something with the ozone/atmosphere like raising oxygen levels to support more life.--&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:InuMimi|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#CC99CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;いぬ&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:InuMimi|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#CCCCCC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;みみ&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:50, 21 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Sprite Changes? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Okay this might be nothing, but in the 3rd gen sprites inside it&#039;s mouth Rayquaza got Blue Color, while in the DP sprites inside it&#039;s like black or dark pink?&lt;br /&gt;
:I think its worth noting.ShinyPiKa 22:15, 12 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::So do I, add it to the trivia section if you&#039;d like. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Forgot to check back and see this discussion. In the first edit of this topic I didn&#039;t know I had to write my name, date and time. Sorry :/. Fidani16 16:12, October 23 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Origin, Name Origin ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t see the resemblance of the Ziz in Rayquaza. I also don&#039;t see the resemblances of the Behemoth and the Leviathan in Groudon and Kyogre, respectively. Do we know where this information came from?? Can it be cited from anywhere?? I&#039;m just wondering where that information came from, because it does not seem very believable to me. And also, I don&#039;t understand how Rayquaza&#039;s name can be derived from &amp;quot;ray&amp;quot;... [[User:Bnjelinski|Soon to be Mrs. Shirley]] 14:13, 18 October 2008&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s not physical &#039;&#039;resemblance&#039;&#039; to Behemoth/Leviathan/Ziz, it&#039;s their thematic similarities. Both groups are huge, primordial monsters of land, sea, and sky.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;•&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 14:21, 18 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Rayquaza (Pokémon)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fidani16: /* Sprite Changes? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Where did all the moves from before lv. 70 come from? And for Groudon and Kyogre, where did the ones before level 45 come from? Are they just speculation?--[[User:ObsessedMinunFan|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Obsessed&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User talk:ObsessedMinunFan|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Minun&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/ObsessedMinunFan|&amp;lt;font color =&amp;quot;gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Fan&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 02:06, 28 August 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s what the move tutor says it learns at those levels, I believe. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 02:53, 28 August 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I just got Rayguaza, Groudon, and Kyogre on Emerald yesterday, and I&#039;m looking at the Move Tutor thing right now. It doesn&#039;t list the levels anywhere. Is the person who posted them still active here?--[[User:ObsessedMinunFan|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Obsessed&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User talk:ObsessedMinunFan|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Minun&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/ObsessedMinunFan|&amp;lt;font color =&amp;quot;gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Fan&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 06:44, 28 August 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I believe people got that info by using a GameShark to get a very low level wild Rayquaza. That is the best way to get to know from what level the Pokémon learns the moves. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 12:28, 3 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== how are the status calculated ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
hi,&lt;br /&gt;
i would like to ask, how are the status graphic calculated, i mean i was trying to capt a pattern, but  I just could not, i mean max speed for groudon and Kyogre at lv.100 is 306 and it is represented as a 90 in the graphic. same for rayquaza, max attack an sp.attack is 438 at lv.100 and the graphic shows 150 for both stats. so, how can i calculate the equivalent for the other pokemon? Please help me with this... :S&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::See [[Stats#Formula]]. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 02:26, 19 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Rock Smash==&lt;br /&gt;
It doesn&#039;t learn Rock Smash in Generation 4? --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 02:26, 19 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It does. Someone must&#039;ve left it out. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;E&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 01:06, 4 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Speculation==&lt;br /&gt;
Well i was looking at the other 2 super-ancients and i thought, the markings on those 2 are, and this is proven in the anime, made by the orbs. and Rayquaza has similar markings, so does he have an, yet to be revealed, orb? [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 15:03, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t think his orb will be revealed any time soon. Because in the anime Ash travels to another region every 5 or so seasons. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 15:20, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::We&#039;ve gone past the third generation now so I would be surprised to see any further development on the weather trio. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Kyogre was in the Manaphy movie, so that makes me think that they won&#039;t be completely ignored.[[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 15:26, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That was still Generation III.  Of course they won&#039;t be ignored (see the Mismagius filler) but new information is being relegated to the Gen IV legends right now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:30, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Sure there is often new information revealed on older Pokémon (for example, the episodes where Misty returned new information about Togepi/Togetic became revealed) but new information regarding Legends is pretty rare, especially something big like orb. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 16:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Well, it would make a great part of a movie. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 14:48, 2 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It makes me wonder if there will be a movie to feature &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; the Legendaries battling it out to see who is the supreme Legendary.  I would definately see that.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;midnightblue&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;$aturn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;¥oshi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;maroon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE VOICES&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t think that would be possible, when the amount of Pokémon are growing so are legendaries. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 10:02, 4 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::True, the battle may just end up destroying everything anyway.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;midnightblue&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;$aturn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;¥oshi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;maroon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE VOICES&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It would be awesome though. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 21:54, 6 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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To get back to the topic about the markings: Maybe Rayquaza&#039;s markings are also created by the orbs? Rayquaza is part of the Weather Trio, so couldn&#039;t the orbs affect Rayquaza as well?  [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:56, 10 September 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don&#039;t think so; Groudon raised lands and Kyogre raised seas, what did rayquaza do? [[User:DragonTamer|DragonTamer]] 07:50, 21 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Although it wasn&#039;t stated in the show or games, Rayquaza could have done something with the ozone/atmosphere like raising oxygen levels to support more life.--&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:InuMimi|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#CC99CC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;いぬ&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:InuMimi|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#CCCCCC&amp;quot;&amp;gt;みみ&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 21:50, 21 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sprite Changes? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay this might be nothing, but in the 3rd gen sprites inside it&#039;s mouth Rayquaza got Blue Color, while in the DP sprites inside it&#039;s like black or dark pink?&lt;br /&gt;
:I think its worth noting.ShinyPiKa 22:15, 12 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::So do I, add it to the trivia section if you&#039;d like. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Forgot to check back and see this discussion. In the first edit of this topic I didn&#039;t know I had to write my name, date and time. Sorry :/. Fidani16 16:12 October 23, 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Origin, Name Origin ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t see the resemblance of the Ziz in Rayquaza. I also don&#039;t see the resemblances of the Behemoth and the Leviathan in Groudon and Kyogre, respectively. Do we know where this information came from?? Can it be cited from anywhere?? I&#039;m just wondering where that information came from, because it does not seem very believable to me. And also, I don&#039;t understand how Rayquaza&#039;s name can be derived from &amp;quot;ray&amp;quot;... [[User:Bnjelinski|Soon to be Mrs. Shirley]] 14:13, 18 October 2008&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s not physical &#039;&#039;resemblance&#039;&#039; to Behemoth/Leviathan/Ziz, it&#039;s their thematic similarities. Both groups are huge, primordial monsters of land, sea, and sky.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;•&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 14:21, 18 October 2008 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Rayquaza (Pokémon)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;Where did all the moves from before lv. 70 come from? And for Groudon and Kyogre, where did the ones before level 45 come from? Are they just speculation?--[[User:ObsessedMinunFan|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Obsessed&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User talk:ObsessedMinunFan|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Minun&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/ObsessedMinunFan|&amp;lt;font color =&amp;quot;gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Fan&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 02:06, 28 August 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s what the move tutor says it learns at those levels, I believe. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 02:53, 28 August 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I just got Rayguaza, Groudon, and Kyogre on Emerald yesterday, and I&#039;m looking at the Move Tutor thing right now. It doesn&#039;t list the levels anywhere. Is the person who posted them still active here?--[[User:ObsessedMinunFan|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Obsessed&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User talk:ObsessedMinunFan|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Minun&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/ObsessedMinunFan|&amp;lt;font color =&amp;quot;gold&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Fan&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] 06:44, 28 August 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I believe people got that info by using a GameShark to get a very low level wild Rayquaza. That is the best way to get to know from what level the Pokémon learns the moves. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 12:28, 3 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== how are the status calculated ==&lt;br /&gt;
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hi,&lt;br /&gt;
i would like to ask, how are the status graphic calculated, i mean i was trying to capt a pattern, but  I just could not, i mean max speed for groudon and Kyogre at lv.100 is 306 and it is represented as a 90 in the graphic. same for rayquaza, max attack an sp.attack is 438 at lv.100 and the graphic shows 150 for both stats. so, how can i calculate the equivalent for the other pokemon? Please help me with this... :S&lt;br /&gt;
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::See [[Stats#Formula]]. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 02:26, 19 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Rock Smash==&lt;br /&gt;
It doesn&#039;t learn Rock Smash in Generation 4? --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 02:26, 19 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It does. Someone must&#039;ve left it out. &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;T&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF0000;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;E&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#0000FF;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;chidna&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039; 01:06, 4 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Speculation==&lt;br /&gt;
Well i was looking at the other 2 super-ancients and i thought, the markings on those 2 are, and this is proven in the anime, made by the orbs. and Rayquaza has similar markings, so does he have an, yet to be revealed, orb? [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 15:03, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t think his orb will be revealed any time soon. Because in the anime Ash travels to another region every 5 or so seasons. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 15:20, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::We&#039;ve gone past the third generation now so I would be surprised to see any further development on the weather trio. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Kyogre was in the Manaphy movie, so that makes me think that they won&#039;t be completely ignored.[[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 15:26, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That was still Generation III.  Of course they won&#039;t be ignored (see the Mismagius filler) but new information is being relegated to the Gen IV legends right now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:30, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Sure there is often new information revealed on older Pokémon (for example, the episodes where Misty returned new information about Togepi/Togetic became revealed) but new information regarding Legends is pretty rare, especially something big like orb. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 16:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Well, it would make a great part of a movie. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 14:48, 2 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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It makes me wonder if there will be a movie to feature &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; the Legendaries battling it out to see who is the supreme Legendary.  I would definately see that.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;midnightblue&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;$aturn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;¥oshi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;maroon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE VOICES&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t think that would be possible, when the amount of Pokémon are growing so are legendaries. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 10:02, 4 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::True, the battle may just end up destroying everything anyway.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;midnightblue&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;$aturn&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;green&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;comic sans ms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;¥oshi&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;maroon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;THE VOICES&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It would be awesome though. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 21:54, 6 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sprite Changes? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay this might be nothing, but in the 3rd gen sprites inside it&#039;s mouth Rayquaza got Blue Color, while in the DP sprites inside it&#039;s like black or dark pink?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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