https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/api.php?action=feedcontributions&feedformat=atom&user=EzekielMaple 2026-06-16T22:30:01Z User contributions MediaWiki 1.43.8 https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ancient_Power_(move)&diff=1420368 2011-04-26T18:58:51Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* By leveling up */ obviously luxray can&#039;t learn it at lv100 and i was between gen 2 poke</p> <hr /> <div>{{MoveInfobox|<br /> n=246 |<br /> name=AncientPower |<br /> jname=げんしのちから |<br /> jtrans=Primeval Power |<br /> jtranslit=Genshi no Chikara |<br /> desc=The user attacks with a prehistoric power. It may also raise all the user's stats at once. |<br /> gameimage=AncientPower.png |<br /> type=Rock |<br /> damagecategory=Special |<br /> basepp=5 |<br /> maxpp=8 |<br /> power=60 |<br /> accuracy=100 |<br /> bdesc=10% chance of raising all stats one level. |<br /> category=Tough |<br /> appeal=1 |<br /> jam=0 |<br /> gen=II|<br /> mtpt=yes|<br /> mths=yes|<br /> na=no|<br /> cdesc=The user gains a star if their condition is good, and they receive the number of stars in appeal points next round. Every star they have (up to three) lessens the chance of the Pokémon becoming nervous. |<br /> appealsc=2 |<br /> scdesc=Earn +2 if the Pokémon performs last in the turn. |<br /> pokefordex=ancientpower |<br /> touches=no |<br /> protect=yes |<br /> magiccoat=no |<br /> snatch=no |<br /> mirrormove=yes |<br /> kingsrock=no |<br /> flag7=no |<br /> flag8=no |<br /> sound=no |<br /> target=anyadjacent |<br /> footnotes= }}<br /> '''AncientPower''' (Japanese: '''げんしのちから''' ''Primeval Power'') is a damage-dealing {{type2|Rock}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation II]].<br /> <br /> ==Effect==<br /> Ancient Power inflicts damage and has a 10% chance of raising all of the user's [[stats]] excluding Accuracy and Evasion by one stage.<br /> <br /> ===Other effects===<br /> Three Pokémon [[Evolution|evolve]] when they know AncientPower: {{p|Tangela}} into {{p|Tangrowth}}, {{p|Piloswine}} into {{p|Mamoswine}}, and {{p|Yanma}} into {{p|Yanmega}}.<br /> <br /> ==Learnset==<br /> ===[[Generation II]]===<br /> ====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br /> {{Learnlist|Rock}}<br /> {{Moveentry|138|Omanyte|2|Rock|Water|49|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|139|Omastar|2|Rock|Water|54|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|140|Kabuto|2|Rock|Water|55|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|141|Kabutops|2|Rock|Water|65|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|142|Aerodactyl|2|Rock|Flying|29|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|151|Mew|1|Psychic||50|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|222|Corsola|2|Water|Rock|43|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|249|Lugia|2|Psychic|Flying|88|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|250|Ho-Oh|2|Fire|Flying|88|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|251|Celebi|2|Grass|Psychic|20|}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br /> {{Breedlist|Rock}}<br /> {{Moveentry|004|Charmander|1|Fire||{{p|Totodile}}, {{p|Croconaw}}, {{p|Feraligatr}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|050|Diglett|1|Ground||{{p|Wooper}}, {{p|Quagsire}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|102|Exeggcute|2|Grass|Psychic|{{p|Chikorita}}, {{p|Bayleef}}, {{p|Meganium}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|104|Cubone|1|Ground||{{p|Totodile}}, {{p|Croconaw}}, {{p|Feraligatr}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|152|Chikorita|1|Grass||{{p|Totodile}}, {{p|Croconaw}}, {{p|Feraligatr}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|158|Totodile|1|Water||{{p|Omanyte}}, {{p|Omastar}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kabuto}}, {{p|Kabutops}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Corsola}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|194|Wooper|2|Water|Ground|{{p|Omanyte}}, {{p|Omastar}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kabuto}}, {{p|Kabutops}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Corsola}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|206|Dunsparce|1|Normal||{{p|Wooper}}, {{p|Quagsire}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|220|Swinub|2|Ice|Ground|{{p|Wooper}}, {{p|Quagsire}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|231|Phanpy|1|Ground||{{p|Wooper}}, {{p|Quagsire}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|246|Larvitar|2|Rock|Ground|{{p|Totodile}}, {{p|Croconaw}}, {{p|Feraligatr}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}<br /> <br /> ====By {{pkmn2|event}}====<br /> {{Learnlistspecial|Rock}}<br /> {{Moveentryspecial|001|Bulbasaur|2|Grass|Poison|[http://www.psypokes.com/dex/psydex/001/tutored New York City Pokémon Center]||5}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ===[[Generation III]]===<br /> ====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br /> {{Learnlist|Rock}}<br /> {{Moveentry|138|Omanyte|2|Rock|Water|49|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|139|Omastar|2|Rock|Water|54|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|140|Kabuto|2|Rock|Water|55|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|141|Kabutops|2|Rock|Water|65|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|142|Aerodactyl|2|Rock|Flying|29|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|151|Mew|1|Psychic||50|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|175|Togepi|1|Normal||21|||FRLG}}<br /> {{Moveentry|176|Togetic|2|Normal|Flying|21|||FRLG}}<br /> {{Moveentry|222|Corsola|2|Water|Rock|45|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|249|Lugia|2|Psychic|Flying|88|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|250|Ho-Oh|2|Fire|Flying|88|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|251|Celebi|2|Grass|Psychic|20|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|343|Baltoy|2|Ground|Psychic|25|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|344|Claydol|2|Ground|Psychic|25|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|345|Lileep|2|Rock|Grass|43|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|346|Cradily|2|Rock|Grass|48|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|347|Anorith|2|Rock|Bug|37|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|348|Armaldo|2|Rock|Bug|37|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|352|Kecleon|1|Normal||49|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|369|Relicanth|2|Water|Rock|43|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|377|Regirock|1|Rock||33|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|378|Regice|1|Ice||33}}<br /> {{Moveentry|379|Registeel|1|Steel||33}}<br /> {{Moveentry|382|Kyogre|1|Water||15}}<br /> {{Moveentry|383|Groudon|1|Ground||15}}<br /> {{Moveentry|384|Rayquaza|2|Dragon|Flying|15}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br /> {{Breedlist|Rock}}<br /> {{Moveentry|004|Charmander|1|Fire||{{p|Totodile}}, {{p|Croconaw}}, {{p|Feraligatr}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|050|Diglett|1|Ground||{{p|Kecleon}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|102|Exeggcute|2|Grass|Psychic|{{p|Chikorita}}, {{p|Bayleef}} , {{p|Meganium}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|104|Cubone|1|Ground||{{p|Totodile}}, {{p|Croconaw}}, {{p|Feraligatr}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|152|Chikorita|1|Grass||{{p|Totodile}}, {{p|Croconaw}}, {{p|Feraligatr}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|158|Totodile|1|Water||{{p|Omanyte}}, {{p|Omastar}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kabuto}}, {{p|Kabutops}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Corsola}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|194|Wooper|2|Water|Ground|{{p|Omanyte}}, {{p|Omastar}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kabuto}}, {{p|Kabutops}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Corsola}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kecleon}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|206|Dunsparce|1|Normal||{{p|Kecleon}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|220|Swinub|2|Ice|Ground|{{p|Kecleon}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|231|Phanpy|1|Ground||{{p|Kecleon}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|246|Larvitar|2|Rock|Ground|{{p|Totodile}}, {{p|Croconaw}}, {{p|Feraligatr}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|303|Mawile|1|Steel||{{p|Kecleon}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|341|Corphish|1|Water||{{p|Omanyte}}, {{p|Omastar}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kabuto}}, {{p|Kabutops}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Corsola}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Lileep}}, {{p|Cradily}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Anorith}}, {{p|Armaldo}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Relicanth}}}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}<br /> <br /> ===[[Generation IV]]===<br /> ====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br /> {{Learnlist|Rock}}<br /> {{Moveentry|114|Tangela|1|Grass||33|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|138|Omanyte|2|Rock|Water|37|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|139|Omastar|2|Rock|Water|37|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|140|Kabuto|2|Rock|Water|46|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|141|Kabutops|2|Rock|Water|54|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|142|Aerodactyl|2|Rock|Flying|25|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|144|Articuno|2|Ice|Flying|29}}<br /> {{Moveentry|145|Zapdos|2|Electric|Flying|29}}<br /> {{Moveentry|146|Moltres|2|Fire|Flying|29}}<br /> {{Moveentry|151|Mew|1|Psychic||50|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|175|Togepi|1|Normal||33}}<br /> {{Moveentry|176|Togetic|2|Normal|Flying|33}}<br /> {{Moveentry|193|Yanma|2|Bug|Flying|33}}<br /> {{Moveentry|206|Dunsparce|1|Normal||41|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|218|Slugma|1|Fire||26|''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|219|Magcargo|2|Fire|Rock|26|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|221|Piloswine|2|Ice|Ground|--}}<br /> {{Moveentry|222|Corsola|2|Water|Rock|32|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|249|Lugia|2|Psychic|Flying|57|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|250|Ho-Oh|2|Fire|Flying|57|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|251|Celebi|2|Grass|Psychic|28|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|343|Baltoy|2|Ground|Psychic|25|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|344|Claydol|2|Ground|Psychic|25|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|345|Lileep|2|Rock|Grass|43|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|346|Cradily|2|Rock|Grass|36|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|347|Anorith|2|Rock|Bug|31|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|348|Armaldo|2|Rock|Bug|31|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|352|Kecleon|1|Normal||55|||DP}}<br /> {{Moveentry|352|Kecleon|1|Normal||64|||PtHGSS}}<br /> {{Moveentry|369|Relicanth|2|Water|Rock|43|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|377|Regirock|1|Rock||33|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|378|Regice|1|Ice||33}}<br /> {{Moveentry|379|Registeel|1|Steel||33}}<br /> {{Moveentry|382|Kyogre|1|Water||15|||DPPt}}<br /> {{Moveentry|382|Kyogre|1|Water||45|||HGSS}}<br /> {{Moveentry|383|Groudon|1|Ground||15|||DPPt}}<br /> {{Moveentry|383|Groudon|1|Ground||45|||HGSS}}<br /> {{Moveentry|384|Rayquaza|2|Dragon|Flying|15|||DPPt}}<br /> {{Moveentry|384|Rayquaza|2|Dragon|Flying|45|||HGSS}}<br /> {{Moveentry|408|Cranidos|1|Rock||28|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|409|Rampardos|1|Rock||28|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|410|Shieldon|2|Rock|Steel|28|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|411|Bastiodon|2|Rock|Steel|28|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|465|Tangrowth|1|Grass||33|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|469|Yanmega|2|Bug|Flying|33}}<br /> {{Moveentry|473|Mamoswine|2|Ice|Ground|--}}<br /> {{Moveentry|483|Dialga|2|Steel|Dragon|20|||DPPt}}<br /> {{Moveentry|483|Dialga|2|Steel|Dragon|10|||HGSS}}<br /> {{Moveentry|484|Palkia|2|Water|Dragon|20|||DPPt}}<br /> {{Moveentry|484|Palkia|2|Water|Dragon|10|||HGSS}}<br /> {{Moveentry|485|Heatran|2|Fire|Steel|--}}<br /> {{Moveentry|487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon|20|||DPPt}}<br /> {{Moveentry|487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon|10|||HGSS}}<br /> {{Moveentry|487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon|20||Origin|Pt}}<br /> {{Moveentry|487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon|10||Origin|HGSS}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br /> {{Breedlist|Rock}}<br /> {{Moveentry|004|Charmander|1|Fire||{{p|Cranidos}}, {{p|Rampardos}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Shieldon}}, {{p|Bastiodon}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|050|Diglett|1|Ground||{{p|Dunsparce}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Piloswine}}, {{p|Mamoswine}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kecleon}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|098|Krabby|1|Water||{{p|Omanyte}}, {{p|Omastar}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kabuto}}, {{p|Kabutops}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Corsola}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Lileep}}, {{p|Cradily}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Anorith}}, {{p|Armaldo}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|102|Exeggcute|2|Grass|Psychic|{{p|Tangela}}, {{p|Tangrowth}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|104|Cubone|1|Ground||{{p|Cranidos}}, {{p|Rampardos}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Shieldon}}, {{p|Bastiodon}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|131|Lapras|2|Water|Ice|{{p|Omanyte}}, {{p|Omastar}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kabuto}}, {{p|Kabutops}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Corsola}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Cranidos}}, {{p|Rampardos}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Shieldon}}, {{p|Bastiodon}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|152|Chikorita|1|Grass||{{p|Cranidos}}, {{p|Rampardos}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Shieldon}}, {{p|Bastiodon}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Tangela}}, {{p|Tangrowth}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|158|Totodile|1|Water||{{p|Omanyte}}, {{p|Omastar}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kabuto}}, {{p|Kabutops}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Corsola}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Cranidos}}, {{p|Rampardos}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Shieldon}}, {{p|Bastiodon}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|194|Wooper|2|Water|Ground|{{p|Omanyte}}, {{p|Omastar}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kabuto}}, {{p|Kabutops}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Dunsparce}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Piloswine}}, {{p|Mamoswine}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Corsola}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kecleon}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|206|Dunsparce|1|Normal||{{p|Dunsparce}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Piloswine}}, {{p|Mamoswine}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kecleon}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|220|Swinub|2|Ice|Ground|{{p|Dunsparce}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Piloswine}}, {{p|Mamoswine}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kecleon}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|231|Phanpy|1|Ground||{{p|Dunsparce}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Piloswine}}, {{p|Mamoswine}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kecleon}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|246|Larvitar|2|Rock|Ground|{{p|Cranidos}}, {{p|Rampardos}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Shieldon}}, {{p|Bastiodon}}|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|258|Mudkip|1|Water||{{p|Omanyte}}, {{p|Omastar}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kabuto}}, {{p|Kabutops}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Corsola}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Cranidos}}, {{p|Rampardos}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Shieldon}}, {{p|Bastiodon}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|303|Mawile|1|Steel||{{p|Dunsparce}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Piloswine}}, {{p|Mamoswine}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kecleon}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|318|Carvanha|2|Water|Dark|{{p|Relicanth}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|322|Numel|2|Fire|Ground|{{p|Dunsparce}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Piloswine}}, {{p|Mamoswine}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kecleon}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|341|Corphish|1|Water||{{p|Omanyte}}, {{p|Omastar}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kabuto}}, {{p|Kabutops}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Corsola}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Lileep}}, {{p|Cradily}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Anorith}}, {{p|Armaldo}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Relicanth}}}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}<br /> <br /> ====By [[move tutor]]====<br /> =====In {{game|Platinum}}, {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}=====<br /> {{Learnlist/TM|Rock}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|074|Geodude|2|Rock|Ground|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|075|Graveler|2|Rock|Ground|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|076|Golem|2|Rock|Ground|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|095|Onix|2|Rock|Ground|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|098|Krabby|1|Water||}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|099|Kingler|1|Water|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|102|Exeggcute|2|Grass|Psychic}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|103|Exeggutor|2|Grass|Psychic}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|111|Rhyhorn|2|Ground|Rock|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|112|Rhydon|2|Ground|Rock|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|114|Tangela|1|Grass|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|131|Lapras|2|Water|Ice}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|138|Omanyte|2|Rock|Water|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|139|Omastar|2|Rock|Water|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|140|Kabuto|2|Rock|Water|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|141|Kabutops|2|Rock|Water|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|142|Aerodactyl|2|Rock|Flying|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|144|Articuno|2|Ice|Flying|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|145|Zapdos|2|Electric|Flying|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|146|Moltres|2|Fire|Flying|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|151|Mew|1|Psychic|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|152|Chikorita|1|Grass||}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|153|Bayleef|1|Grass||}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|154|Meganium|1|Grass||}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|158|Totodile|1|Water||}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|159|Croconaw|1|Water||}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|160|Feraligatr|1|Water||}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|176|Togetic|2|Normal|Flying|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|193|Yanma|2|Bug|Flying|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|194|Wooper|2|Water|Ground|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|195|Quagsire|2|Water|Ground|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|206|Dunsparce|1|Normal|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|208|Steelix|2|Steel|Ground}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|213|Shuckle|2|Bug|Rock|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|218|Slugma|1|Fire|''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|219|Magcargo|2|Fire|Rock|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|220|Swinub|2|Ice|Ground}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|221|Piloswine|2|Ice|Ground}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|222|Corsola|2|Water|Rock|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|231|Phanpy|1|Ground|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|232|Donphan|1|Ground|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|246|Larvitar|2|Rock|Ground|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|247|Pupitar|2|Rock|Ground|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|248|Tyranitar|2|Rock|Dark|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|249|Lugia|2|Psychic|Flying|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|250|Ho-Oh|2|Fire|Flying|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|251|Celebi|2|Psychic|Grass|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|258|Mudkip|1|Water|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|259|Marshtomp|2|Water|Ground}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|260|Swampert|2|Water|Ground}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|299|Nosepass|1|Rock||'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|303|Mawile|1|Steel}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|304|Aron|2|Steel|Rock|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|305|Lairon|2|Steel|Rock|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|306|Aggron|2|Steel|Rock|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|318|Carvanha|2|Water|Dark|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|319|Sharpedo|2|Water|Dark|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|337|Lunatone|2|Rock|Psychic|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|338|Solrock|2|Rock|Psychic|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|341|Corphish|1|Water||}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|342|Crawdaunt|2|Water|Dark}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|343|Baltoy|2|Ground|Psychic}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|344|Claydol|2|Ground|Psychic}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|345|Lileep|2|Rock|Grass|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|346|Cradily|2|Rock|Grass|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|347|Anorith|2|Rock|Bug|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|348|Armaldo|2|Rock|Bug|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|352|Kecleon|1|Normal||}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|369|Relicanth|2|Water|Rock|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|377|Regirock|1|Rock||'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|378|Regice|1|Ice|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|379|Registeel|1|Steel|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|382|Kyogre|1|Water|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|383|Groudon|1|Ground|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|384|Rayquaza|2|Dragon|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|385|Jirachi|2|Steel|Psychic}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|408|Cranidos|1|Rock||'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|409|Rampardos|1|Rock||'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|410|Shieldon|2|Rock|Steel|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|411|Bastiodon|2|Rock|Steel|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|422|Shellos|1|Water|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|422|Shellos|1|Water|||East}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|423|Gastrodon|2|Water|Ground}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|423|Gastrodon|2|Water|Ground||East}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|436|Bronzor|2|Steel|Psychic}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|437|Bronzong|2|Steel|Psychic}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|464|Rhyperior|2|Ground|Rock|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|465|Tangrowth|1|Grass|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|468|Togekiss|2|Normal|Flying}} <br /> {{Moveentrytm|469|Yanmega|2|Bug|Flying|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|473|Mamoswine|2|Ice|Ground}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|476|Probopass|2|Rock|Steel|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|483|Dialga|2|Steel|Dragon}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|484|Palkia|2|Water|Dragon}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|485|Heatran|2|Fire|Steel}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|486|Regigigas|1|Normal||}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon||Origin}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|489|Phione|1|Water||}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|490|Manaphy|1|Water||}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|493|Arceus|1|{{Arceustype}}||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|6='''|''}}}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ===[[Generation V]]===<br /> ====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br /> {{Learnlist|Rock}}<br /> {{Moveentry|114|Tangela|1|Grass||36|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|138|Omanyte|2|Rock|Water|37|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|139|Omastar|2|Rock|Water|37|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|140|Kabuto|2|Rock|Water|46|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|141|Kabutops|2|Rock|Water|54|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|142|Aerodactyl|2|Rock|Flying|25|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|144|Articuno|2|Ice|Flying|29}}<br /> {{Moveentry|145|Zapdos|2|Electric|Flying|29}}<br /> {{Moveentry|146|Moltres|2|Fire|Flying|29}}<br /> {{Moveentry|151|Mew|1|Psychic||50|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|175|Togepi|1|Normal||33}}<br /> {{Moveentry|176|Togetic|2|Normal|Flying|33}}<br /> {{Moveentry|193|Yanma|2|Bug|Flying|33}}<br /> {{Moveentry|206|Dunsparce|1|Normal||48|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|218|Slugma|1|Fire||28|''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|219|Magcargo|2|Fire|Rock|28|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|221|Piloswine|2|Ice|Ground|--}}<br /> {{Moveentry|222|Corsola|2|Water|Rock|32|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|249|Lugia|2|Psychic|Flying|57|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|250|Ho-Oh|2|Fire|Flying|57|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|251|Celebi|2|Grass|Psychic|28|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|343|Baltoy|2|Ground|Psychic|26|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|344|Claydol|2|Ground|Psychic|26|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|345|Lileep|2|Rock|Grass|43|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|346|Cradily|2|Rock|Grass|36|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|347|Anorith|2|Rock|Bug|31|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|348|Armaldo|2|Rock|Bug|31|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|352|Kecleon|1|Normal||55|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|369|Relicanth|2|Water|Rock|43|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|377|Regirock|1|Rock||33|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|378|Regice|1|Ice||33}}<br /> {{Moveentry|379|Registeel|1|Steel||33}}<br /> {{Moveentry|382|Kyogre|1|Water||45|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|383|Groudon|1|Ground||45|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|384|Rayquaza|2|Dragon|Flying|45|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|408|Cranidos|1|Rock||33|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|409|Rampardos|1|Rock||36|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|410|Shieldon|2|Rock|Steel|28|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|411|Bastiodon|2|Rock|Steel|28|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|465|Tangrowth|1|Grass||36|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|469|Yanmega|2|Bug|Flying|33}}<br /> {{Moveentry|473|Mamoswine|2|Ice|Ground|--}}<br /> {{Moveentry|483|Dialga|2|Steel|Dragon|10|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|484|Palkia|2|Water|Dragon|10|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|485|Heatran|2|Fire|Steel|--}}<br /> {{Moveentry|487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon|10|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon|10||Origin|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|564|Tirtouga|2|Water|Rock|18|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|565|Carracosta|2|Water|Rock|18|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|566|Archen|2|Rock|Flying|18|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|567|Archeops|2|Rock|Flying|18|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|643|Reshiram|2|Dragon|Fire|15|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|644|Zekrom|2|Dragon|Electric|15|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|646|Kyurem|2|Dragon|Ice|15|}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ==In the anime==<br /> {{moveanime|type=rock|exp=yes|gen=The user forms a glowing ball of energy in front of its body and shoots it at foe.|image2=Yanmega AncientPower.png|image2p=Yanmega|image3=Piloswine AncientPower.png|image3p=Piloswine|image1=Mamoswine AncientPower.png|image1p=Mamoswine|image4=Yanma AncientPower.png|image4p=Yanma}}<br /> {{movep|type=rock|ms=193|pkmn=Yanma|method=Yanma's body glows white and it creates a see through after image of itself. The after image then spins quickly and creates a silver ball in front of Yanma's body. Yanma then launches the ball at the opponent.}}<br /> {{movemid|type=rock|user=Jessie's Yanma|startcode=DP080|startname=The Thief That Keeps on Thieving!|notes=Debut}}<br /> {{movep|type=rock|ms=469|pkmn=Yanmega|method=Yanmega's body glows white and it creates a silver energy ball in front of its body. It then launches the ball at the opponent.}}<br /> {{movemid|type=rock|user=Jessie's Yanmega|startcode=DP080|startname=The Thief That Keeps on Thieving!}}<br /> {{movep|type=rock|ms=221|pkmn=Piloswine|method=Piloswine's body glows white and it creates a silver energy ball in front of its nose. It then fires the ball at the opponent.}}<br /> {{movemid|type=rock|user=Dawn's Piloswine|startcode=DP106|startname=A Breed Stampede!}}<br /> {{movep|type=rock|ms=473|pkmn=Mamoswine|method=Mamoswine's body glows white and the glow comes off its body and forms a silver ball on the end of its tusks. It then fires the ball at the opponent.}}<br /> {{movebtm|type=rock|user=Dawn's Mamoswine|startcode=DP119|startname=Trials and Adulations!}}<br /> <br /> ==In the manga==<br /> <br /> ===Pokémon Adventures===<br /> {{movemanga|type=rock|exp=yes|gen=The user releases a powerful blast of energy from its body at the opponent.|image1=Kabutops AncientPower Adventures.png|image1p=Kabutops}}<br /> {{movep|type=rock|ms=141|pkmn=Kabutops|method=Kabutops crosses its scythes across its chest and opens them quickly. A ring of energy then appears behind its body and it releases a blast of energy from its body at the opponent.}}<br /> {{movebtmManga|type=rock|user=Brock|user1=Brock's Kabutops|startcode=PS155|startname=Heads On Kabutops!|notes=Debut}}<br /> <br /> ==In other generations==<br /> {{Movegen|<br /> type=rock|<br /> genII=AncientPower II|<br /> genIV=AncientPower IV|<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> * AncientPower is learned by every [[fossil]] Pokémon and a large number of [[legendary Pokémon]].<br /> * {{p|Piloswine}}, which evolves into {{p|Mamoswine}} when leveled up knowing this move, has been able to learn it by breeding since the move's introduction. This trait is shared with {{m|Rollout}}, which has had a similar history with {{p|Lickitung}}.<br /> * There are only six Pokémon that can learn AncientPower and both of its [[Move variations|variations]]: {{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}, {{p|Yanma}}, {{p|Yanmega}}, {{p|Giratina}}, and {{p|Smeargle}} (via {{m|Sketch}}).<br /> <br /> ==In other languages==<br /> * Chinese: '''原始之力''' ''Yuánshǐzhī Lì''<br /> * Dutch: '''Oeroude Kracht'''<br /> * French: '''{{tt|Pouv.|Stands for Pouvoir}}Antique'''<br /> * German: '''Antik-Kraft'''<br /> * Greek: '''Αρχαία Δύναμη'''<br /> * Italian: '''Forzantica'''<br /> * Korean: '''원시의힘''' ''Weonsa-yi Him''<br /> * Polish: '''Antyczna Moc'''<br /> * Spanish: '''Poder Pasado'''<br /> * Herbrew: '''כוח עתיק''' '''coah atick'''<br /> * Portuguese (Brazilian): '''Poder Antigo'''<br /> * Portuguese (European): '''Desmoronamento'''<br /> * Serbian: '''Drevna Moć'''<br /> <br /> {{AncientPower}}<br /> {{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}<br /> [[Category:Evolution inducing moves]]<br /> <br /> [[de:Antik-Kraft]]<br /> [[fr:Pouvoir Antique]]<br /> [[it:Forzantica (mossa)]]<br /> [[ja:げんしのちから]]<br /> [[pl:Antyczna Moc]]<br /> [[pt:AncientPower]]</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:EzekielMaple&diff=1420352 2011-04-26T18:30:41Z

<p>EzekielMaple: i&#039;ll do that userspace edit now</p> <hr /> <div>My user page. I needed one.<br /> <br /> Well people, my name is Ezekiel.<br /> <br /> As a high school student, i have lots of free time and i use it for video games. I use Bulbapedia mainly if i find those little errors, like grammar, maybe some trivia, move articles (just the obvious, like a Pokemon from gen 4 in the gen 3 section). Lately i played LOTS of Final Fantasy but don't worry i play Pokemon often.<br /> <br /> Nevermind, i'll let usertags speak for me.<br /> <br /> {{User Male}} {{User Computer}}<br /> {{User Opera}} {{User Region|Sinnoh|Sinnohplatinum.jpg}}<br /> {{User Favorite|389|Torterra}} {{User Age|14}}<br /> {{User Shy}} {{User Astrology|Leo}}<br /> {{User Smart}} {{User Mythical Creatures|382}}<br /> {{User Atheist}} {{User Gay Rights}}<br /> {{User Green Party}} {{User No Worry}}<br /> <br /> <br /> ...<br /> <br /> <br /> {{User Obsession|264|usertags}}<br /> {{User Usertags}}<br /> <br /> And that's all for now.</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Genesect_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=1384484 2011-03-03T15:45:51Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* Sprites */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>== Can this be removed? ==<br /> <br /> I can't stress this enough Just because somthing looks simmilar to somthing else does not say anything about it's origin. Can the part about the Napalm man be removed? It is speculation and therfore does not belong in the origin section, unless there is evidence to support it (If some is found please tell me what it is). --'''[[User:EpicShadow|&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;Epic&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:EpicShadow|&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue&quot;&gt;Shadow&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 00:13, 10 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Last of National Dex Trivia==<br /> I noticed this and thought it would be good trivia:<br /> *&quot;Genesect is the only Pokémon that was at one point the final Pokémon in the National Dex that could not be a {{type|Psychic}}.&quot;<br /> Mew, Celebi, Deoxys, and Arceus holding a Mind Plate for the record. Also, Dennis. [[User:Yurtablemoron|Yurtablemoron]] 11:18, 11 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Genesect: Mewtwo of Gen V ==<br /> <br /> I got a lot of hunches on this pokemon being artificially created by Team Plasma. There are some reasons why: First, both are being developed as the most strongest pokemon created by science. Second, they originated from the remains of a extinct pokemon (Mewtwo originated from a fossilized hair of Mew and Genesect originated from a bug-like fossil). Third, both villainous group shares the same goal on making them the strongest pokemon ever created to rule the world. And fourth, both of them escaped for unknown reasons in the games. But I know there are more to this relation, somehow....<br /> [[User:Duo2nd|Duo2nd]] 02:46, 17 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Uh like what? Lots of Gen V Pokémon have similarities. Doesn't mean they're related. Also, Mewtwo being created by Team Rocket isn't confirmed to be canon in the games. &lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;—&lt;small&gt;♥&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;b&gt;[[User:Jello|&lt;span style=&quot;color:orange;&quot;&gt;Jello&lt;/span&gt;]][[User Talk:Jello|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3FA9D0;&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;talk&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/b&gt; 02:54, 17 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::It's not confirmed because it isn't true. Mr. Fuji and Blaine weren't a part of TR in the games [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 02:59, 17 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::Note that the Pokédex entry says RE-constructed meaning that it probably wasn't created by team plasma in the first place, probably created by some anciant race or the monarchy. Still it is unlikely that it has any relation to any of the other Pokémon. --'''[[User:EpicShadow|&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;Epic&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:EpicShadow|&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue&quot;&gt;Shadow&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 04:12, 17 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Origin of Genesect? ==<br /> <br /> Maybe it's a plural/singular grammatical issue, but the article says that <br /> <br /> &quot;Genesect may be generally based on the giant insects of the Paleozoic era, although its Steel-type features give it a somewhat robotic appearance. It has existed for 300 million years, making it as old as the cockroach.&quot;<br /> <br /> Does &quot;it&quot; refer to &quot;giant insects&quot; or does it refer to Genesect, for if it refers to Genesect, than it's wrong right? --[[User:Joeshie|&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold; color:#6B8E23; border: 1px dashed #DFFFA5;&quot;&gt;+ Joeshie +&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;''([[User talk:Joeshie|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#99CC32&quot;&gt;is Mæ!&lt;/span&gt;]])''&lt;/small&gt; 02:51, 17 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :What are you suggesting is wrong? Genesect has existed for 300 million years, it says so in its Black dex entry (which I haven't gotten around to translating and adding yet). I'm not quite sure if that really fits in its origin section, though... &lt;span style=&quot;border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;&quot;&gt;[[User:Umeko|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF99CC;&quot;&gt;梅子&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Umeko|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF99CC;&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;❀&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF99CC;&quot;&gt;&lt;sub&gt;✿&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt; 18:15, 17 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Hmmm... so what it's saying is that it's had a gun (albeit less powerful) from over 300 million years ago? --[[User:Joeshie|&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold; color:#6B8E23; border: 1px dashed #DFFFA5;&quot;&gt;+ Joeshie +&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;''([[User talk:Joeshie|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#99CC32&quot;&gt;is Mæ!&lt;/span&gt;]])''&lt;/small&gt; 18:29, 17 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::Is Genesect actualy robotic or part robotic? This may very easily be irelevent to the outcome of it's origin, but it reminds me of Atlatian technology. It was believed that the technology of Atlantis could be used to creat powerful Vehicles, wepons and atomatons. It also says in the Pokédex that it was reconstructed suggesting it was created by someone other than team plasma (althogh I don't know who). --'''[[User:EpicShadow|&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;Epic&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:EpicShadow|&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue&quot;&gt;Shadow&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 19:58, 17 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::part robotic [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 20:04, 17 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> Could the &quot;others&quot; be the pigmask army form MOTHER 3? They took normal creatures and turned them into cyborgs also knows as chimeras, possibly a reference to Mother 3? could you add this it the trivia section?<br /> [[User:Ghost chimera|Ghost chimera]] 08:00, 4 December 2010 (UTC)Ghost chimera<br /> :::::what does Mother 3 have to do with this? Lot's of series do this...sonic the hedgehog for example [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 08:14, 4 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> The people who worked on MOTHER 3 also worked on Pokemon, this is why Mewtwo looks like Giygas. <br /> [[User:Ghost chimera|Ghost chimera]] 22:00, 4 December 2010 (UTC)Ghost chimera<br /> <br /> == Romanization ==<br /> <br /> Isn't the Katakana pronounced Genosect (Genosekuto), not Genesect? ----[[User:Sparen|&lt;span style=&quot;color:teal&quot;&gt;Sparen&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;''([[User talk:Sparen|&lt;span style=&quot;color:lime&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/span&gt;]])''&lt;/small&gt; 22:08, 26 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :From what I understand, Genesect's the name that's been officially trademarked.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] &lt;small&gt;([[User talk:Cold|talk]])&lt;/small&gt; 22:11, 26 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::This should be brought up again as it has not been trademarked Genesect, at least as far as the information available online on the official JP trademark database. Unless someone has a source it should be changed. [[User:Pokejungle|Pokejungle]] 06:15, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::Genesect.com, Keldeo.com, Tsutarja.com, mijumaru.com, pokabu.com. All parked by the same company. Can you drop the romanization issue now? &lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;—&lt;small&gt;♥&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;b&gt;[[User:Jello|&lt;span style=&quot;color:orange;&quot;&gt;Jello&lt;/span&gt;]][[User Talk:Jello|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3FA9D0;&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;talk&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/b&gt; 06:43, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Artwork?==<br /> <br /> I was wondering - what will be done for artwork section of the event legendary Pokémon until their official Ken Sugimori art is released? I remember Arceus had fan art until its Sugimori art is revealed, so will Kerudio, Meloetta, and Genesect follow the same route? I'd be happy to provide Sugimori-style artwork for them if that ends up being the case. I know this is probably jumping the gun quite a bit, but I figured it couldn't hurt to ask. [[User:Xous|Xous]] 22:49, 26 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Most likely we will get Dream World art. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:48, 1 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Actually, I doubt Dream World art will be released before Genesect itself is (what purpose would it have, besides appearing to condone hacking?). And Sugimori art will likely be released at the same time. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&lt;sup&gt;P&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;K&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;M&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;N&lt;/sub&gt;]] 22:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::Ah, for some reason I completely forgot about Dream World art at the time I was writing that. If it doesn't get Dream World art before its Sugimori art is released, though, I'll still be glad to provide art for it and the other event Legendary Pokémon. [[User:Xous|Xous]] 17:10, 6 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::At the moment at least, Dream World art looks very unlikely, as all of the site's Pokemon listings drop off after #646. There's nothing stopping it being added in an upgrade, but that probably won't be until the official release, which would bring Sugimori Art too. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 17:18, 6 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> Hey, I've seen Sugimori's official art, but It's JPEG, Low quality, little dimensions and isn't all that good. There's no good images of Genesect you can find right now. - [[User:PikaThunder|PikaThunder]] • [[User Talk:PikaThunder|PT's Talk]] - 15:12, 5 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> Nevermind, it wasn't actually Sugimori artwork. Probably Fan art. - [[User:PikaThunder|PikaThunder]] • [[User Talk:PikaThunder|PT's Talk]] - 20:55, 5 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> :The piece I offer to use in this article is [http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/031/3/a/genosect_v_4_by_xous54-d38igum.png[this one]]. I'd be able to remove my watermarks should it be found acceptable. (I can also supply a full-size version if necessary.) And, as I mentioned earlier, I could supply artwork for the two formes of Meloetta and artwork for Keldeo to serve as placeholders until their official art is revealed. [[User:Xous|Xous]] 03:43, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> Didn't we use fanmade sprites for Zorua and Zoroark once? I mean, we could simply put up that &quot;THIS SPRITE IS FAKE&quot; tag again if we use fanart for these three.... Doesn't that seem like an idea? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 16:18, 6 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> :I'm not sure if there's been a policy change regarding using fan art as placeholders, but in the case of Arceus there was simply a tiny line of text below the image stating &quot;Fan Artwork of Arceus&quot; or something to that effect. I would upload the artwork to the articles myself, but I don't want to break any rules or overstep my bounds, and I really don't know how I'd go about adding the artwork (and I don't want to risk messing up the pages). [[User:Xous|Xous]] 02:55, 15 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> ::I can give you some very well-made fan art from [[Keldeo]], [[Meloetta]] and [[Genesect]], if you want !<br /> ::--[[User:Wolfy|Wolfy]] 10:49, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Trade? ==<br /> <br /> In the obtaining section of the page, it says Genesect is only available by trading. What does this mean?—[[User:Zekasaur|&lt;span style=&quot;color:Black&quot;&gt;♫Ze&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Zekasaur|&lt;span style=&quot;color:Green&quot;&gt;kas&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|&lt;span style=&quot;color:Red&quot;&gt;aur♫&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:12, 28 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :It's default for unobtainable Pokémon, it should be changed.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#BF0B17&quot;&gt;ＤＥＮＮＯＵ&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#1250A6&quot;&gt;ＺＥＮＳＨＩ&lt;/font&gt;]] 11:14, 28 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::No, it shouldn't. For Pokémon with no in-game location, it should just say trade. Events don't count unless they give access to an in-game location. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:48, 1 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Dennis ==<br /> <br /> I heard almost everyone at YouTUBE giving Genosect the nickname Dennis due to the confusion caused with Geechisu's battle music. Prior to the reveal it was Geechisu's theme instead of Genesect's theme everybody called it Dennis due to the chorus in the track. Not sure if alot of people still refer to him as such now but could we atleast mention it since Tsutarja's page mentioned Smugleaf? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 00:47, 13 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :It's not even that popular, so no. It's only notable for Smugleaf because the popular video game blog site, Kotaku, made it. - [[User:050294|050294]] 04:12, 13 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Actually, Smugleaf is notable because it was mentioned in [[a:File:NZAU_Magazine_Scan.jpg|an official Nintendo magazine]], ''not'' because it was made by a popular site. &lt;span class=&quot;sc&quot;&gt;[[User:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2D4B98;&quot;&gt;Werdnae&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009000;&quot;&gt;(talk)&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 04:46, 13 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::Hm, that was in the UK Nintendo magazine too, so I guess it was in two magazines. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 16:35, 13 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Really? ==<br /> <br /> &quot;Genesect is currently the only Pokémon which names a villainous team in its Pokédex entry.&quot; The game isn't even out in English, and this is in the article? The pokedex entry doesn't have any English words (obviously, but I wanted to make sure anyway) Are we going by some translation that could potentially be wrong? Or was this ACTUALLY mentioned somewhere? [[User:In A Manica|In A Manica]] 03:00, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Hmmm... not sure whether to withdraw this or not. There's a supposedly correct translation when the mouse is hovered over the pokedex entry, but I'd at least like to know where it came from because I doubt it's correct. [[User:In A Manica|In A Manica]] 03:19, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::It came from {{u|Umeko}} who is a Japanese speaker. She has gone through and translated just about every Pokédex entry that is on Bulbapedia. They're the Japanese entries that are placeholders until the English games come out. --[[User:PsychicRider|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#78C850;&quot;&gt;'''P S Y'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:PsychicRider|&lt;sub style=&quot;color:#F85888;&quot;&gt;'''ライダー'''&lt;/sub&gt;]]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C4E673;&quot;&gt;'''☮'''&lt;/span&gt;]]'' 03:39, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::oh ok thank you for telling me. I was confused when I first saw that bit of trivia. [[User:In A Manica|In A Manica]] 03:45, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Evolution? ==<br /> <br /> Why are the 5 different images of Genesect shown in the evolution? The cassettes only affect ONE move and a coloring of ONE detail, nothing else. It's no major forme change and is far less impressive than Arceus's formes, doesn't change stats, type or anything like others like Meloetta for instance. I don't think it should be considered to evolve. --&lt;span style=&quot;color:#91A3B0&quot;&gt;—&lt;/span&gt;[[User:Venomoth|&lt;span style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 13pt&quot;&gt;'''''V'''e&lt;small&gt;№&lt;/small&gt;moth''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Venomoth| ♦]] 01:56, 6 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> :It isn't evolution, it's forme change, first of all. Second, Genesect's different formes' sprites are needed just as much as Gender differences are. Gender differences don't effect type, moves, stats, or anything! It's just a &quot;small&quot; difference in appearence, but its still used because it makes the article more complete showing what the different genders look like. Just like how showing Genesect's different formes make the page more complete by showing what it looks like when holding specific items. --[[User:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma;background:black&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;red&quot;&gt;'''Land'''&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma;background:black&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;yellow&quot;&gt;'''fish7'''&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 02:05, 6 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> ::Yes, I know the differences between forme, evolution and gender and this is not really making much sense. Look at Arceus, Its coloring changes but so does Its ''type'' when it holds its objects that give it that forme change - Similar to Genesect's cassettes, but a bigger change. Secondly, everyone came after me when I did [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Kenhorou_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&amp;oldid=1234971#Evolution this], a very obvious, but according to all the other users who ganged up on me, unimportant difference, as was also pointed out to me with [[Burungel (Pokémon)|this one]]. Genesect is somewhere between these two cases, but mostly, if ''Arceus'' is not considered evolved through its forme changes, Genesect definitely shouldn't be either. --&lt;span style=&quot;color:#91A3B0&quot;&gt;—&lt;/span&gt;[[User:Venomoth|&lt;span style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 13pt&quot;&gt;'''''V'''e&lt;small&gt;№&lt;/small&gt;moth''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Venomoth| ♦]] 02:37, 6 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> :::I think the only reason Arceus doesn't do it is because of how ludicrously big it would be. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 13:03, 6 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> ::::The thing is that there is a distinction between Forme differences and gender differences. Other than gender differences, however, every Pokémon with different forms should have the appropriate special displays on their page (even those, such as Genesect, where the minimal difference only lends itself to a larger evobox.)--[[User:MisterE13|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF&quot;&gt;Mister&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:MisterE13|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#008000&quot;&gt;'''E'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#800080&quot;&gt;13&lt;/span&gt;]] 01:19, 7 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> :::::On a somewhat related note, I don't quite like how the form evoboxes are set up. Using Genesect's as an example, it is linear, so it says that only certain forms can change to other ones, which is not true. Genesect holding any kind of cassette (or none at all) can then switch items to any other (or discard it). The evobox should be a big circle with arrows going between all possible combinations. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 01:38, 7 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> :::::: Might be easier to not use any arrows at all. Two-way arrows or simple lines could seem messy if we can instead figure out a placement that doesn't lend itself to strict ordering. How about 3 above and 2 below, or 2 above and 3 below? Or 2, 2, 1, with no Cassette as the odd one out? Or if that circle is really on the table, just place them in it unconnected. But other than that, I definitely see the merit in toticombinatory arrows. [[User:PLA|PLA]] 17:29, 17 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Worth Noting? ==<br /> <br /> Should it be written that Genesect is the third man made Pokemon after Porygon and Mewtwo. I count Porygon as one since its two evolved forms are simply upgraded versions of it. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 18:30, 14 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> :[[Artificial Pokémon]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 01:01, 15 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Forme Change ==<br /> <br /> Genesect's Evolution section makes it as if, for example, that Genesect must first equip the Lightning Cassette before equipping the Blaze Cassette which simply isn't the case. Is there a way to do this to make it so its clear that all the formes are interchangeable? --[[User:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma;background:black&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;red&quot;&gt;'''Land'''&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma;background:black&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;yellow&quot;&gt;'''fish7'''&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 18:18, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Unable to see image ==<br /> <br /> i am unable to see the images for genesect, keldeo, and meloetta. All there i see is a link of some sort. Can anybody please clarify why i am unable to see these images? [[User:Karnik555|Karnik555]] 00:00, 10 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> :Because it has not been uploaded and they don't exist. So, we can't really upload one now can we? &lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;—&lt;small&gt;♥&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;b&gt;[[User:Jello|&lt;span style=&quot;color:orange;&quot;&gt;Jello&lt;/span&gt;]][[User Talk:Jello|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3FA9D0;&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;talk&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/b&gt; 00:01, 10 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Genesis?==<br /> Genesect does not have an official pronunciation as of yet; it could be jenna-sect for all we know. I was wondering if the &quot;Gene&quot; prefix could refer to genesis, in one instance meaning the beginning of something. The games say Genesect has existed for quite a long time, so could this be a name origin?-- [[User:Swagmander|Swagmander]] 04:07, 10 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> :A long time =/= beginning. It is isn't as unlikely and the option below, but it most likely refers to gene/genetics/a similar term. I am not going to completely oppose it being added, but I do think it shouldn't be there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 10:38, 13 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Genocide? ==<br /> <br /> Could the name come from the term 'genocide'? {{unsigned|Fencingwolf13}}<br /> :Possibly, due to its large cannon, and that it was apparently the most feared hunter in its time. There have been much less likely name origin theories, so it should be added. &lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:white; background-color:blue&quot;&gt;'''X'''&lt;/span&gt;[[User:Vuvuzela2010|&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue; background-color:white&quot;&gt;'''Vuvuzela2010''']]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:white; background-color:blue&quot;&gt;'''X'''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt; 17:01, 12 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> ::The fact that it was specifically romanized &quot;Gen'''e'''sect&quot; makes me doubt that. It was genetically engineered, so it almost certainly comes from gene/genetics/a similar term. And situations where . --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 10:38, 13 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Edit Request==<br /> Why is this page protected? Basically, I was going to modify two pieces of trivia, to look like this:<br /> <br /> * ''Genesect is the only {{type|Bug}} [[legendary Pokémon]], excluding {{p|Arceus}} holding the [[Insect Plate]]''.<br /> <br /> * ''Despite it being its [[signature move]], Genesect cannot receive STAB from {{m|Techno Buster}}.''<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:white; background-color:blue&quot;&gt;'''X'''&lt;/span&gt;[[User:Vuvuzela2010|&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue; background-color:white&quot;&gt;'''Vuvuzela2010''']]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:white; background-color:blue&quot;&gt;'''X'''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt; 17:01, 12 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> :The page should only be protected to new users. Any user that is autoconfirmed (which you are) should be able to edit it. This was done to all the Pokémon pages as too many new users were adding names which have not been officially released. &lt;span class=&quot;sc&quot;&gt;[[User:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2D4B98;&quot;&gt;Werdnae&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009000;&quot;&gt;(talk)&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 04:33, 13 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> ::I now know whats happnened, I've seen the locked banner and automatically assumed that I was unable to edit it, lol. &lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:white; background-color:blue&quot;&gt;'''X'''&lt;/span&gt;[[User:Vuvuzela2010|&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue; background-color:white&quot;&gt;'''Vuvuzela2010''']]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:white; background-color:blue&quot;&gt;'''X'''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt; 12:31, 13 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sprites ==<br /> <br /> It would be a good idea to make a little template that only shows one form of Genesect at a time (ie, normal, holding blaze cassette, holding aqua cassette, etc) like Arceus's one? I've had this idea because the only difference are some color details and techno buster's type. --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 15:45, 3 March 2011 (UTC)</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pinwheel_Forest&diff=1383751 2011-03-03T12:06:30Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* Inner area */ fixed chesto berry</p> <hr /> <div>{{incomplete}}<br /> {{Infobox location<br /> |type=forest<br /> |image=Pinwheel Forest.png<br /> |image_size=256<br /> |location_name=Pinwheel Forest<br /> |japanese_name={{tt|ヤグルマの森|yaguruma no mori}}<br /> |translated_name=Yaguruma Forest<br /> |location=Between [[Nacrene City]] and [[Skyarrow Bridge]]<br /> |region=Unova<br /> |generation={{gen|V}}<br /> |map=Unova Pinwheel Forest map.png<br /> }}<br /> '''Pinwheel Forest''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|ヤグルマの森|ヤグルマのもり}}''' ''Yaguruma Forest'') is a forest in [[Unova]] which lies between [[Nacrene City]] and [[Castelia City]], at the east end of the [[Skyarrow Bridge]]. <br /> <br /> The [[legendary Pokémon]] {{p|Virizion}} can be found deep in the forest. However, in order to capture Virizion, the {{player}} must first encounter {{p|Cobalon}}, who resides in [[Mistralton Cave]].<br /> <br /> ==Geography==<br /> There is an outer portion to the east which is accessible as soon as the player gains access to [[Nacrene City]], and an inner portion to the west which is accessible only after winning at the [[Nacrene Gym]].<br /> <br /> Like in [[Eterna Forest]], it has a [[Moss Rock|moss-covered rock]] near the entrance. Leveling up {{p|Eevee}} in this forest will allow it to evolve into {{p|Leafeon}}.<br /> <br /> ==Items==<br /> ====Outer area====<br /> {{Itlisth|forest}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|Super Potion|<br /> *In the north-east corner, alongside a fence near the [[Nacrene City]] end. ''(hidden)''<br /> *In the south, near the dark patches|BW|display=[[Super Potion]] ×2}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|TM Fighting|From a woman near the Nacrene City end|BW|display={{TM|94|Rock Smash}}}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|Ether|<br /> *Behind a fence near the Nacrene City end<br /> *In the south-east corner, over some flowers near the stones ''(hidden)''|BW|display={{DL|Ether|Ether}} ×2}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|Great Ball|Near the broken railway tracks|BW}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|Antidote|<br /> *Down along the watery path<br /> *In the big pool of water to the south ''(hidden)''|BW|display=[[Antidote]] ×2}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|Star Piece|Received daily by smashing the Big Training Rock (ためしのいわ) with a {{type|Fighting}} Pokémon|BW}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|Net Ball|Down the ladder after the big stones|BW}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|TinyMushroom|In the south, near the dark patches, over a tiny pool of water ''(hidden)''|BW}}<br /> {{Itlistfoot|forest}}<br /> <br /> ====Inner area====<br /> {{Itlisth|forest}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|Super Potion|West of {{tc|Pokémon Ranger}} Morito|BW}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|Antidote|Inside a tree stump, near {{tc|Pokémon Ranger}} Kiri|BW}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|TinyMushroom|<br /> *South of the Super Potion that is West of {{tc|Pokémon Ranger}} Morito ''(hidden)''<br /> *Inside a tree stump, south of {{tc|Pokémon Ranger}} Yasuko ''(hidden)''|BW|display=[[TinyMushroom]] ×2}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|Big Root|Southwest of the second {{tc|Team Plasma Grunt}}.|BW}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|Chesto Berry|From {{tc|Pokémon Ranger}}s Morito and Kiri after defeating them.|BW|display=[[Chesto Berry]] ×2}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|Pecha Berry|From {{tc|Pokémon Ranger}}s Yasuko and Miguel after defeating them.|BW|display=[[Pecha Berry]] ×2}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|Parlyz Heal|Inside a tree stump, west of {{tc|Pokémon Ranger}} Miguel.|BW}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|TM Grass|East of {{tc|Pokémon Ranger}} Miguel.|BW|display={{TM|86|Grass Knot}}}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|Moon Stone|Gift from [[Lenora]] after defeating [[Team Plasma]].|BW}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|Miracle Seed|East, after defeating [[Team Plasma]].|BW}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|TM Grass|East of the bridge|BW|display={{TM|22|SolarBeam}}}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|Rare Candy|East of the bridge, on the river margin ''(hidden)''|BW}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|Hyper Potion|Northeast of the bridge, inside a tree stump|BW}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|SilverPowder|West of the bridge (Requires {{m|Surf}})|BW}}<br /> {{Itlistfoot|forest}}<br /> <br /> ==Pokémon==<br /> ===Generation V===<br /> ====Outer area====<br /> {{Catch/header|forest|seasons=yes}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|519|Pidove|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|12-15|all=30%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|532|Timburr|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|13-16|all=20%|type1=Fighting}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|535|Tympole|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|12-17|all=40%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|538|Throh|no|yes|N/A|Grass|12-15|all=10%|type1=Fighting}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|539|Sawk|yes|no|N/A|Grass|12-17|all=10%|type1=Fighting}}<br /> {{catch/div|forest|Shaky Patches}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|531|Audino|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|12-15|all=95%|type1=Normal}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|538|Throh|yes|no|N/A|Grass|15|all=5%|type1=fighting}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|539|Sawk|no|yes|N/A|Grass|15|all=5%|type1=fighting}}<br /> {{Catch/div|forest|Dark patches}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|519|Pidove|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|14-15|all=Common|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|532|Timburr|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|14-17|all=Common|type1=Fighting}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|535|Tympole|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|14-17|all=Common|type1=Water}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|538|Throh|no|yes|N/A|Grass|14-17|all=Common|type1=Fighting}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|539|Sawk|yes|no|N/A|Grass|14-17|all=Common|type1=Fighting}}<br /> {{Catch/footer|forest}}<br /> <br /> ====Inner area====<br /> {{Catch/header|forest|seasons=yes}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|543|Venipede|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|15-16|all=20%|type1=bug|type2=poison}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|540|Sewaddle|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|14-17|all=40%|type1=bug|type2=grass}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|519|Pidove|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|15-16|all=10%|type1=normal|type2=flying}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|546|Cottonee|yes|no|N/A|Grass|14||all=30%|type1=grass}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|548|Petilil|no|yes|N/A|Grass|14-17|all=30%|type1=grass}}<br /> {{catch/div|forest|Shaky Patches}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|531|Audino|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|14-17|all=65%|type1=Normal}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|511|Pansage|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|15|all=10%|type1=grass}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|513|Pansear|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|15|all=10%|type1=fire}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|515|Panpour|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|15|all=10%|type1=water}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|547|Elfuun|yes|no|N/A|Grass|15|all=5%|type1=grass}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|549|Doredia|no|yes|N/A|Grass|15-17|all=5%|type1=grass}}<br /> {{Catch/div|forest|Dark patches}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|520|Hatooboo|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|23-24|all=10%|type1=normal|type2=flying}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|541|Kurumayu|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|22-25|all=40%|type1=bug|type2=grass}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|544|Whirlipede|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|23-24|all=10%|type1=bug|type2=poison}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|546|Cottonee|yes|no|N/A|Grass|22-24|all=40%|type1=grass}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|548|Petilil|no|yes|N/A|Grass|22-25|all=40%|type1=grass}}<br /> {{Catch/footer|forest}}<br /> <br /> ==Trainers==<br /> ===Generation V===<br /> ====Pokémon Black and White====<br /> =====Outer area=====<br /> {{trainerheader|forest}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr BW Nurse.png|Nurse|Shery|600|1|517|Munna|♀|15|None|025|36=マサミ|37=Masami}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|forest}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr BW Kindergartner F.png|Kindergartner|Juliet|52|2|546|Cottonee|♀|13|None|548|Petilil|♀|13|None|36=コトノ|37=Kotono}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|forest}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr BW Kindergartner M.png|Kindergartner|Homer|56|1|524|Roggenrola|♂|14|None|36=オウチ|37=Ōchi}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|forest}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr BW Youngster.png|Youngster|Keita|208|3|535|Tympole|♂|13|None|535|Tympole|♂|13|None|535|Tympole|♂|13|None|36=ケイタ|37=Keita}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|forest}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr BW Youngster.png|Youngster|Zachary|224|2|543|Venipede|♂|14|None|506|Lillipup|♂|14|None|36=レツジ|37=Retsuji}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|forest}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr BW Black Belt.png|Black Belt|Kentaro|512|1|532|Timburr|♂|16|None|36=ケンタロウ|37=Kentarō}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|forest}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr BW Battle Girl.png|Battle Girl|Lee|512|1|532|Timburr|♂|16|None|36=リ|37=Li}}<br /> {{trainerfooter|forest|5}}<br /> <br /> =====Inner area=====<br /> {{trainerheader|forest}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr BW Twins.png|Twins|Mayo &amp; Maya|256|2|540|Sewaddle|♀|16|None|540|Sewaddle|♀|16|None|36=マヨとマヤ|37=Mayo and Maya}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|forest}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr BW School Kid M.png|School Kid|Sammy|340|1|517|Munna|♂|17|None|36=オサム|37=Osamu}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|forest}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr BW 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{{trainerentry|Spr BW Pokémon Ranger F.png|Pokémon Ranger|Irene|1080|1|515|Panpour|♂|18|None|36=ヤスコ|37=Yasuko}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|forest}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr BW Plasma Grunt M.png|Team Plasma Grunt||640|1|504|Patrat|♂|16|None}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|forest}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr BW Pokémon Ranger M.png|Pokémon Ranger|Miguel|1080|1|513|Pansear|♂|18|None|36=ミゲル|37=Miguel}}<br /> {{trainerdiv|forest}}<br /> {{trainerentry|Spr BW Plasma Grunt M.png|Team Plasma Grunt||560|3|504|Patrat|♂|14|None|504|Patrat|♂|14|None|551|Sandile|♂|14|None}}<br /> {{trainerfooter|forest|5}}<br /> <br /> &lt;!--==In other media==--&gt;<br /> <br /> ==In the anime==<br /> [[File:Pinwheel Forest anime inside.png|250px|right|thumb|Pinwheel Forest in the anime]]<br /> [[File:Pinwheel Forest anime.png|250px|right|thumb|The outskirts]]<br /> Pinwheel Forest is shown to be a huge forest in the anime. With mountains and fields on the outskirts, and a variety of foliage and moss. Inside the forest, there are mossy trees, one where a bunch of {{p|Galvantula}} live. In the middle of the forest is a giant tree where the whole forest can be seen from. It is also shown to have a waterfall and caves where {{p|Patrat}} live. A [[Pokémon Center]] is shown inside the forest.<br /> <br /> The outskirts appeared in [[BW017]] where {{Ash}}'s {{pkmn|egg}} hatched into a {{AP|Scraggy}}. It became a bully and picked on Ash's Pokémon. Later it was badly hurt by a Galvantula, but recovered after taking some medicine {{an|Iris}} had made. The next day it challenged the Galvantula again but needed saving from Ash and {{Ashfr|his friends}} after the entire colony of Galvantula joined in the fight. Then Zuruggu had a battle with {{TP|Iris|Axew}} which ended in a draw.<br /> <br /> Ash and his friends reach Pinwheel Forest in [[BW018]] where they met the [[Castelia City|Castelia]] [[Gym Leader]], [[Burgh]]. Ash encounters a {{AP|Sewaddle}} which battles {{AP|Pikachu}} before disappearing. It appears later where it stays with the group. It then helps to defeat two {{p|Woobat}} with {{AP|Pikachu}}. The next day, Sewaddle gets stuck to a {{p|Deerling}} and falls into a river but is saved by Burgh's {{p|Leavanny}}. Later, Ash visits the Pokémon Center where he sends one of his Pokémon to [[Professor Juniper]] to make room for Sewaddle. <br /> <br /> Just outside of Pinwheel Forest, a path leads to a huge [[Poké Mart]] where loads of goods are sold such as gems and jewelry. [[Pokémon Sommelier]]s, including [[Cabernet]], also set up booths in the area where they judge the compatibility that a Pokémon and their Trainer have. Ash, Iris and Cilan visited it in [[BW019]].<br /> <br /> {{Unova}}<br /> {{legendarylocations|unova}}&lt;br&gt;<br /> {{Project Locations notice}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Forests]]<br /> [[Category:Unova locations]]<br /> [[Category:Black and White locations]]<br /> [[Category:Forests]]<br /> [[Category:Evolution-inducing locations]]<br /> <br /> [[de:Ewigenwald]]<br /> [[ja:ヤグルマのもり]]</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Slaking_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=1374681 2011-02-28T00:35:06Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* Side game data */ pinball rs</p> <hr /> <div>{{PokémonPrevNextHead | species=Slaking | prev=Vigoroth | next=Nincada |type=normal|| prevnum=288| nextnum=290}}<br /> {{PokémonInfobox|<br /> name=Slaking |<br /> jname=ケッキング |<br /> tmname=Kekking |<br /> art=RS |<br /> size=180px |<br /> pron=&lt;sc&gt;slah-king&lt;/sc&gt; |<br /> ndex=289 |<br /> hdex=038 |<br /> fbrow=164 |<br /> typen=1 |<br /> type1=Normal |<br /> type2= |<br /> species=Lazy |<br /> height-ftin=6'07&quot; |<br /> height-m=2.0 |<br /> weight-lbs=287.7 |<br /> weight-kg=130.5 |<br /> abilityn=1 |<br /> ability1=Truant |<br /> egggroupn=1 |<br /> egggroup1=Ground |<br /> egggroup2= |<br /> eggcycles=15|<br /> evhp=3 |<br /> expyield=210 |<br /> lv100exp=1,250,000 |<br /> gendercode=127 |<br /> color=Brown |<br /> catchrate=45 |<br /> body=12 |<br /> pokefordex=slaking |<br /> generation=3 |<br /> footnotes=}}<br /> '''Slaking''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ケッキング''' ''Kekking'') is a {{type2|Normal}} Pokémon.<br /> <br /> It [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Vigoroth}} starting at [[level]] 36. It is the final form of {{p|Slakoth}}.<br /> <br /> ==Biology==<br /> ===Physiology===<br /> Slaking are large, bulky, ape-like Pokémon. Most of their fur is brown in coloration, along with the ring patterning encircling their eyes, but their face, chest, hands and feet are lighter in color. Their brows are thick and jutting. Slaking have a white collar of fur around their necks, extending towards the top of their head in a small tuft, somewhat resembling a bonnet. Slaking also have a large, pink, pig like nose.<br /> <br /> ====Gender differences====<br /> None.<br /> <br /> ====Special abilities====<br /> While this Pokémon doesn't appear to do much most of the time, it has immense physical strength, stamina, and surprisingly enough, speed. Much like other Normal-types, it can be taught quite a number of elemental attacks. <br /> <br /> ===Behavior===<br /> Slaking are the laziest of all Pokémon. They spend most of their time lying in grassy fields to eat, barely doing anything; however, when threatened, they will suddenly get up and strike with great power. If the grass they've eaten around them is gone, they move to a new spot with more grass.<br /> <br /> ===Habitat===<br /> [[File:Forest.gif|right|frame|{{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Forest Pokémon}}]]<br /> Slaking live in dense forests, but are very difficult to find.<br /> <br /> ===Diet===<br /> {{main|Pokémon food}}<br /> Slaking usually eat grass that is in reach of them. Slaking also eat fruit, but they just wait until the fruits fall down from the trees instead of just climbing up and picking them.<br /> <br /> ==In the anime==<br /> [[File:Norman Slaking.png|right|thumb|200px|Norman and his Slaking]]<br /> ===Major appearances===<br /> {{TP|Norman|Slaking}} made its debut appearance in ''[[AG069|Love, Petalburg Style]]'', belonging to {{an|May}}'s father, [[Norman]], the [[Gym Leader]] of [[Petalburg City]]. In [[AG070|the following episode]], {{Ash}}'s {{AP|Grovyle|Sceptile}} defeated it in battle, winning Ash the {{badge|Balance}}. Slaking appeared again in ''[[DP079|Strategy With a Smile!]]'' watching the [[Wallace Cup]] on television with Norman.<br /> <br /> A giant Slaking appeared in ''[[AG179|Slaking Kong]]'', but it was a robot controlled by [[Team Rocket]].<br /> <br /> ===Minor appearances===<br /> <br /> ===Pokédex entries===<br /> {{Animedexheader|Hoenn}}<br /> {{Animedexbody|AG069|Slaking|May's Pokédex|Slaking, the Lazy Pokémon. Slaking lives most of its life {{m|Slack Off|asleep}}, eating only grasses that grow within its reach.}}<br /> {{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Advanced Generation''|Hoenn}}<br /> <br /> ==In the manga==<br /> ===[[Pokémon Adventures]]===<br /> [[Norman]]'s signature Pokémon is a Slaking, just as in the games. Although it would seem that its [[Truant|ability]] would be of major hindrance, he shows that by having a {{p|Spinda}} tag alongside it and use {{m|Skill Swap}} in times of need, its impressive strength and speed would be wielded to their maximum. Additionally, the move {{m|Bulk Up}} allows it to bolster its stats even more.<br /> <br /> ==In the TCG==<br /> {{main|Slaking (TCG)}}<br /> <br /> ==Game data==<br /> ===NPC appearances===<br /> * {{ga|Pokémon Ranger}}: [[Go-Rock Quads|Clyde]] uses a Slaking in his attempts to stop the player.<br /> <br /> ===Pokédex entries===<br /> {{Dex<br /> |type=normal<br /> |gen=3<br /> |rubydex=Slaking spends all day lying down and lolling about. It eats grass growing within its reach. If it eats all the grass it can reach, this Pokémon reluctantly moves to another spot.<br /> |sapphiredex=Wherever Slaking lives, rings of over a yard in diameter appear in grassy fields. They are made by the Pokémon as it eats all the grass within reach while lying prone on the ground.<br /> |emeralddex=Hordes of Slaking gather around trees when fruits come into season. They wait around patiently for ripened fruits to fall out of the trees.<br /> |frlgdex=It is the world's most slothful Pokémon. However, it can exert horrifying power by releasing pent-up energy all at once.<br /> |dpptdex=The world's laziest Pokémon. When it is {{a|Truant|lounging}}, it is actually saving energy for striking back.<br /> |hgssdex=The world's laziest Pokémon. It moves to another spot when there's no food left within its reach.<br /> |bwdex={{tt|せかいいち　ぐうたらな　ポケモン。ねころがっているだけに　みえるが　はんげきの　パワーを　ためている。|The world's laziest Pokémon. When it is lounging, it is actually saving energy for striking back.}}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Game locations===<br /> {{Availability |<br /> gen=3 |<br /> type=normal |<br /> frlgex=rse |<br /> rsarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vigoroth}} |<br /> earea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vigoroth}} |<br /> dparea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vigoroth}} |<br /> ptarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vigoroth}} |<br /> hgssrarity=None |<br /> hgssarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vigoroth}} |<br /> palarea=Forest |<br /> bwrarity=None |<br /> bwarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vigoroth}} |<br /> gen5ex=white |<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ====In side games====<br /> {{SidegameAvail <br /> |type=normal<br /> |pinballrs=Evolve from {{p|Vigoroth}}<br /> |trozei=Endless Level 62&lt;br&gt;Forever Level 12&lt;br&gt;Pair Trozei&lt;br&gt;[[Mr. Who's Den]]<br /> |md=Evolve from {{p|Vigoroth}}<br /> |ranger=Outside [[Jungle Relic]]<br /> |md2=[[Crevice Cave]] (B1-B10)&lt;br&gt;[[Lower Crevice Cave]] (B1-B4)&lt;br&gt;[[Mt. Avalanche]] (B1-B19)<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Stats===<br /> ====Base stats====<br /> {{BaseStats|<br /> type=normal |<br /> HP= 150 |<br /> Attack= 160 |<br /> Defense=100 |<br /> SpAtk= 95 |<br /> SpDef= 65 |<br /> Speed= 100 }}<br /> <br /> ====Pokéathlon stats====<br /> {{Pokéthlon<br /> |type=Normal<br /> |Speed=1<br /> |SpeedMax=1<br /> |Power=5<br /> |PowerMax=5<br /> |Technique=1<br /> |TechniqueMax=2<br /> |Stamina=4<br /> |StaminaMax=5<br /> |Jump=2<br /> |JumpMax=2<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Type effectiveness===<br /> {{Type effectiveness|<br /> type1=normal |<br /> Normal= 100 |<br /> Fighting=200 |<br /> Flying= 100 |<br /> Poison= 100 |<br /> Ground= 100 |<br /> Rock= 100 |<br /> Bug= 100 |<br /> Ghost= 0 |<br /> Steel= 100 |<br /> <br /> Fire= 100 |<br /> Water= 100 |<br /> Grass= 100 |<br /> Electric=100 |<br /> Psychic= 100 |<br /> Ice= 100 |<br /> Dragon= 100 |<br /> Dark= 100 }}<br /> <br /> ===Learnset===<br /> ====By [[level|leveling up]]====<br /> 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{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|216|Teddiursa}}{{MSP|217|Ursaring}}{{MSP|325|Spoink}}{{MSP|326|Grumpig}}{{MSP|363|Spheal}}{{MSP|364|Sealeo}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|365|Walrein}}|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15||||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|190|Aipom}}{{MSP|424|Ambipom}}{{MSP|572|Minccino}}{{MSP|573|Cinccino}}|Tickle|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|100|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/breedf|Slaking|Normal|Normal|5|3}}<br /> <br /> ====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====<br /> {{learnlist/tutorh|Slaking|normal|normal|5|3}}<br /> {{learnlist/tutor5null}}<br /> {{learnlist/tutorf|Slaking|normal|normal|5|3}}<br /> <br /> ====Special moves====<br /> <br /> ===Side game data===<br /> {{Sidegame|<br /> type=normal |<br /> ndex=289 |<br /> pinballrs=Evolve |<br /> Trozei=yes |<br /> rarity=Rare |<br /> Dungeon=yes |<br /> body=1 |<br /> rate=Evolve |<br /> area=Energetic Forest |<br /> P1=When I get serious, you'd best watch out, too. |<br /> P2=It appears that I have only half my HP left. |<br /> P3=I'm weary... I'm out of all the power I conserved... |<br /> PL=Hmm... It appears that I've gained a level. |<br /> Partner=no |<br /> Dungeon2=yes |<br /> body2=1 |<br /> rate2=-12 |<br /> iq=C |<br /> Ranger=yes |<br /> group=Normal |<br /> field=Crush |<br /> fieldpower=3 |<br /> loop=17 |<br /> MinEXP=200 |<br /> MaxEXP=250 |<br /> browser=Slaking powerfully slaps the ground with both palms to cause tremors. |<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Evolution===<br /> {{evobox<br /> |family=Normal<br /> |sprite1=287<br /> |name1=Slakoth<br /> |type1-1=Normal<br /> |evotype1=Level<br /> |level1=18<br /> |sprite2=288<br /> |name2=Vigoroth<br /> |type1-2=Normal<br /> |evotype2=Level<br /> |level2=36<br /> |sprite3=289<br /> |name3=Slaking<br /> |type1-3=Normal}}<br /> <br /> ===Sprites===<br /> {{Sprite|<br /> type=normal|<br /> gen=3|<br /> gender=none|<br /> ndex=289|<br /> name=Slaking|<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> *Slaking has the third highest base Attack of any Pokémon in any game. It is tied with {{p|Regigigas}} and is surpassed by {{p|Rampardos}} and {{p|Deoxys}}'s [[Form differences#Deoxys|Attack Forme]].<br /> *At 670, Slaking has the highest base stat total of any non-legendary Pokémon, tying with the legendary Pokémon {{p|Groudon}}, {{p|Kyogre}}, and {{p|Regigigas}}.<br /> *Although Slaking is said to slack off like {{p|Slakoth}}, it gains a higher speed stat upon evolving from {{p|Vigoroth}} (although Vigoroth does not have Truant).<br /> *In double and triple battles, one can nullify Slaking's Truant ability by using either {{m|Skill Swap}}, {{m|Gastro Acid}}, or {{m|Worry Seed}}. Several trainers in {{game|Emerald}} use this power, including [[Norman]] during the player's rematches with him. Cipher Head Evice is the very first Trainer in any game to use this tactic. Without Truant, Slaking can make full use of its impressive stats. This can also be done in single battles by using a [[contact]] move on a Pokémon with {{a|Mummy}}.<br /> *Slaking is commonly mistaken as a [[pseudo-legendary]] Pokémon because of its incredibly high base stats, however, it differs from them in its lack of a secondary type and base stats not totaling 600.<br /> *In Ruby and Sapphire, Norman has two Slaking, one at level 28 and another at level 31. This is technically impossible, as Vigoroth evolves into Slaking at level 36. The problem still remains in Emerald, but Norman only has one Slaking, at level 31.<br /> * Despite being named Sla''king'', it has a 50% chance of being female. It is also true for its Japanese name, Kekking.<br /> * In both the handheld and console games, Slaking is always seen lying on its left side with its left arm propping up its head.<br /> <br /> ===Origin===<br /> It appears to draw inspiration from {{wp|sloth}}s and some form of {{wp|ape}}. The inspiration from sloths makes it somewhat resemble a {{wp|Megatherium}}, also known as the Giant Ground Sloth, however, it more closely resembles a {{wp|gorilla}}.<br /> ====Name origin====<br /> Slaking's name is a combination of ''slake'', meaning to slacken, and ''king''. It may also be a play on the word ''slacking''.<br /> <br /> ''Kekking'' is a combination of 怠ける ''namakeru'', to be idle, or 怠け者 ''namakemono'', sloth, and ''king''. Or, 欠勤(Kekkin/Absence) and King might be combined.<br /> <br /> ==In other languages==<br /> {| align=&quot;left&quot; class=&quot;roundy&quot; style=&quot;border: 3px solid #{{Normal color dark}}; background: #{{Normal color}};&quot;<br /> |-<br /> |<br /> {| class=&quot;roundy&quot; style=&quot;background: #{{Normal color light}};&quot;<br /> |- align=center<br /> ! style=&quot;-moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px;&quot; | Language<br /> ! style=&quot;-moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;&quot; | Name<br /> ! style=&quot;-moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;&quot; | Name Origin<br /> |- style=&quot;background:#FFF;&quot;<br /> | [[List of German Pokémon names|German]]<br /> | Letarking<br /> | <br /> |- style=&quot;background:#FFF;&quot;<br /> | [[List of French Pokémon names|French]]<br /> | Monaflemit <br /> | From ''monarch'' and ''flemme'' (slacking off).<br /> |- style=&quot;background:#FFF;&quot;<br /> | [[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]<br /> | 게을킹 ''Ge-eulking''<br /> |<br /> |- style=&quot;background:#FFF;&quot;<br /> | [[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese (Taiwan]] <br /> | 請假王 ''Qǐng Jià Wáng''<br /> | 請假 (to request for a leave of absence) may come from the Japanese 欠勤 ''kekkin'' (absence), which can be found in its Japanese name Kekking. The last character means king. <br /> |}<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> &lt;br clear=&quot;left&quot;&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Related articles==<br /> * [[Norman's Slaking]]<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> <br /> {{PokémonPrevNextFoot | prev=Vigoroth | next=Nincada |type=normal|| prevnum=288| nextnum=290}}<br /> {{Project Pokédex notice}}<br /> <br /> [[de:Letarking]]<br /> [[es:Slaking]]<br /> [[fr:Monaflèmit]]<br /> [[it:Slaking]]<br /> [[ja:ケッキング]]<br /> [[pl:Slaking]]<br /> [[pt:Slaking (pokémon)]]</div>

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<p>EzekielMaple: /* Side game data */ pokemon pinball rs</p> <hr /> <div>{{PokémonPrevNextHead | species=Kingdra | type=water | type2=dragon | prevnum=229 | nextnum=231 | prev=Houndoom | next=Phanpy }}<br /> {{PokémonInfobox|<br /> name=Kingdra |<br /> jname=キングドラ |<br /> tmname=Kingdra |<br /> art=HGSS |<br /> size=155px |<br /> pron=&lt;sc&gt;king-drah&lt;/sc&gt; |<br /> ndex=230 |<br /> oldjdex=188 |<br /> jdex=192 |<br /> hdex=186 |<br /> fbrow=109 |<br /> abrow=231 |<br /> obrow=070 |<br /> typen=2 |<br /> type1=Water |<br /> type2=Dragon |<br /> species=Dragon |<br /> height-ftin=5'11″ |<br /> height-m=1.8 |<br /> weight-lbs=335.1 |<br /> weight-kg=152.0 |<br /> abilityn=2 |<br /> ability1=Swift Swim |<br /> ability2=Sniper |<br /> abilityd=Damp |<br /> egggroupn=2 |<br /> egggroup1=Water 1 |<br /> egggroup2=Dragon |<br /> eggcycles=20 |<br /> evat=1 |<br /> evsa=1 |<br /> evsd=1 |<br /> expyield=207 |<br /> lv100exp=1,000,000 |<br /> gendercode=127 |<br /> color=Blue |<br /> catchrate=45 |<br /> body=05 |<br /> pokefordex=kingdra |<br /> generation=2 |<br /> footnotes=}}<br /> '''Kingdra''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''キングドラ''' ''Kingdra'') is a dual-type {{2t|Water|Dragon}} Pokémon.<br /> <br /> It [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Seadra}} via [[Trade#Pokémon which evolve when traded|trade]] with a {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|Dragon Scale}}. It is the final form of {{p|Horsea}}.<br /> <br /> ==Biology==<br /> ===Physiology===<br /> Kingdra is a larger, more elegant version of {{p|Seadra}}. It has beautiful fins that wave in the water as it swims. Its head has a crest-like fin along its cheeks. Its head can also turn 360 degrees. Its belly scales are now more compact, unlike Seadra. The snout has also become thinner and more powerful in squirting {{m|Hydro Pump|water jets}} with devastating power.<br /> ====Gender differences====<br /> None.<br /> <br /> ===Special abilities===<br /> The {{m|Yawn|yawn}} of a sleeping Kingdra is powerful enough to create {{m|Whirlpool|undercurrents}} capable of destroying small ships.<br /> ===Behavior===<br /> When a storm arrives, Kingdra is said to awaken and wander about in search of prey.<br /> <br /> ===Habitat===<br /> [[Image:Sea.gif|right|frame|{{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Sea Pokémon}}]]<br /> Kingdra are rare in the wild, and usually hibernate in deep underwater caves.<br /> <br /> ===Diet===<br /> {{main|Pokémon food}}<br /> Kingdra is a carnivorous Pokémon, hunting for prey in the aftermath of a storm.<br /> <br /> ==In the anime==<br /> [[Image:EP254.png|right|thumb|Kingdra in the anime]]<br /> ===Major appearances===<br /> [[Gym Leader]] [[Clair]] of [[Blackthorn City]] has a Kingdra that was used in ''[[EP254|Better Eight than Never!]]''<br /> <br /> ===Minor appearances===<br /> [[Molly Hale]] used an illusion Kingdra to battle [[Misty]] in ''[[M03|Spell of the Unown]]''.<br /> <br /> Kingdra made its anime debut in ''[[EP216|Dueling Heroes]]'' where it lost to {{AP|Totodile}} in the first match of the [[Whirl Cup|Whirl Cup Competition]].<br /> <br /> ===Pokédex entries===<br /> {{Animedexheader|Johto}}<br /> {{Animedexbody|EP216|Kingdra|Ash's Pokédex|Kingdra, the Dragon Pokémon. Normally at rest on the ocean floor, but in theories of high activity, even a yawn has enough power to create {{M|whirlpool}}s.}}<br /> {{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|original|Johto}}<br /> <br /> ==In the manga==<br /> {{adv|Silver}}'s {{p|Seadra}} evolved into Kingdra when he traded it to {{adv|Gold}} for {{p|Poliwhirl}}, which also [[Polibo|evolved]]. The two then traded back, so that each would have their original, though evolved, Pokémon. It was then used in his battle with Gold in the ruins of [[Ecruteak City]], where it defeated {{DL|Gold (Adventures)|Sudobo}} after being switched in. He also uses it to [[Waterfall (move)|climb waterfalls]].<br /> <br /> [[Clair]] of the [[Blackthorn Gym]] also has a Kingdra.<br /> <br /> ==In the TCG==<br /> {{main|Kingdra (TCG)}}<br /> <br /> ==Game data==<br /> ===Pokédex entries===<br /> {{Dex<br /> |type=water<br /> |type2=dragon<br /> |gen=2<br /> |golddex=It is said that it usually hides in underwater caves. It can create {{m|whirlpool}}s by {{m|yawn}}ing.<br /> |silverdex=It sleeps deep on the ocean floor to build its energy. It is said to cause {{m|Twister|tornadoes}} as it wakes.<br /> |crystaldex=It stores energy by sleeping at underwater depths at which no other life forms can survive.<br /> |rubydex=Kingdra lives at extreme ocean depths that are otherwise uninhabited. It has long been believed that the yawning of this Pokémon creates spiraling ocean currents.<br /> |sapphiredex=Kingdra sleeps on the seafloor where it is otherwise devoid of life. When a storm arrives, the Pokémon is said to awaken and wander about in search of prey.<br /> |emeralddex=It sleeps quietly, deep on the seafloor. When it comes up to the surface, it creates a huge whirlpool that can swallow even ships.<br /> |firereddex=It sleeps deep on the ocean floor to build its energy. It is said to cause tornadoes as it wakes.<br /> |leafgreendex=It is said that it usually hides in underwater caves. It can create whirlpools by yawning.<br /> |stadium2dex=It is said that it usually hides in underwater caves. It can create whirlpools by yawning.<br /> |dpptdex=It lives in caves on the seafloor and creates giant whirlpools every time it moves. <br /> |heartgolddex=It is said that it usually hides in underwater caves. It can create whirlpools by yawning.<br /> |soulsilverdex=It sleeps deep on the ocean floor to build its energy. It is said to cause tornadoes as it wakes.<br /> |bwdex={{tt|かいていどうくつに　すんでいる。キングドラが　みうごきすると　きょだいな　うずしおが　うまれる。|It lives in caves on the seafloor and creates giant whirlpools every time it moves.}}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Game locations===<br /> {{Availability|<br /> type=water |<br /> type2=dragon |<br /> gen=2 |<br /> gsarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Seadra}} |<br /> carea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Seadra}} |<br /> rsarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Seadra}} |<br /> frlgarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Seadra}} |<br /> earea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Seadra}} |<br /> dparea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Seadra}} |<br /> ptarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Seadra}} |<br /> hgssarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Seadra}} |<br /> palarea=Sea |<br /> bwrarity=Rare |<br /> bwarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|17|Unova}}, {{rtn|18|Unova}} and [[P2 Lab]] (Fishing Spots) |<br /> }}<br /> ====In side games====<br /> {{SidegameAvail<br /> |type=water<br /> |type2=dragon<br /> |pinballrs=Evolve from {{p|Seadra}}<br /> |trozei=[[Secret Storage 13]]&lt;br&gt;Trozei Battle&lt;br&gt;[[Mr. Who's Den]]<br /> |md=Evolve from {{p|Seadra}}<br /> |ranger=[[Safra Sea]]<br /> |md2=[[Surrounded Sea]] (B1-B20)&lt;br&gt;[[Miracle Sea]] (B1-B18)&lt;br&gt;[[Deep Miracle Sea]] (B1-B4)&lt;br&gt;[[Bottomless Sea]] (B1-B49)<br /> |ranger2=[[Sea of Wailord]]<br /> |ranger3=[[Coral Sea]]&lt;br&gt;{{ra|Eastern Sea}}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Stats===<br /> ====Base stats====<br /> {{BaseStats|<br /> type=water|<br /> type2=dragon|<br /> HP= 75 |<br /> Attack= 95 |<br /> Defense=95 |<br /> SpAtk= 95 |<br /> SpDef= 95 |<br /> Speed= 85 }}<br /> <br /> ====Pokéathlon stats====<br /> {{Pokéthlon<br /> |type=Water<br /> |type2=Dragon<br /> |Speed=2<br /> |SpeedMax=5<br /> |Power=4<br /> |PowerMax=4<br /> |Technique=3<br /> |TechniqueMax=3<br /> |Stamina=4<br /> |StaminaMax=5<br /> |Jump=2<br /> |JumpMax=2<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Type effectiveness===<br /> {{Type effectiveness|<br /> type1=water|<br /> type2=dragon|<br /> 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{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|418|Buizel}}{{MSP|419|Floatzel}}|Razor Wind|Normal|Special|80|100|10|||||}}<br /> {{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|087|Dewgong}}{{MSP|223|Remoraid}}{{MSP|224|Octillery}}{{MSP|226|Mantine}}|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|75|100|15||}}<br /> {{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|129|Magikarp}}{{MSP|130|Gyarados}}{{MSP|349|Feebas}}{{MSP|350|Milotic}}|Splash|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|40|||}}<br /> {{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|007|Squirtle}}{{MSP|008|Wartortle}}{{MSP|009|Blastoise}}{{MSP|054|Psyduck}}{{MSP|055|Golduck}}{{MSP|072|Tentacool}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|073|Tentacruel}}{{MSP|079|Slowpoke}}{{MSP|080|Slowbro}}{{MSP|199|Slowking}}{{MSP|131|Lapras}}{{MSP|223|Remoraid}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|224|Octillery}}{{MSP|226|Mantine}}{{MSP|278|Wingull}}{{MSP|279|Pelipper}}{{MSP|350|Milotic}}{{MSP|367|Huntail}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|368|Gorebyss}}{{MSP|422|Shellos}}{{MSP|422E|Shellos}}{{MSP|423|Gastrodon}}{{MSP|423E|Gastrodon}}{{MSP|580|Koaruhie}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|581|Swanna}}{{MSP|594|Alomomola}}|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20||||'''}}{{learnlist/breedf|Kingdra|Water|Dragon|5|2}}<br /> <br /> ====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====<br /> {{learnlist/tutorh|Kingdra|water|dragon|5|2}}<br /> {{learnlist/tutor5|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Special|140|90|5||'''|yes}}<br /> {{learnlist/tutorf|Kingdra|water|dragon|5|2}}<br /> <br /> ====By a prior [[evolution]]====<br /> {{Learnlist/prevoh|Kingdra|Water|Dragon|5|2}}<br /> {{Learnlist/prevo5|116|Horsea|d||||Brine|Water|Special|65|100|10|'''}}<br /> {{Learnlist/prevof|Kingdra|Water|Dragon|5|2}}<br /> <br /> ===Side game data===<br /> {{Sidegame|<br /> type=water |<br /> ndex=230 |<br /> pinballrs=Evolve |<br /> Trozei=yes |<br /> rarity=Rare |<br /> Dungeon=yes |<br /> body=1 |<br /> rate=Evolve |<br /> area=Treasure Sea |<br /> P1=When I awaken, tornadoes form! |<br /> P2=Watch out. My HP is down by half already. |<br /> P3=I'm ruined... Conjuring up a tornado is a dream within a dream... |<br /> PL=Leveled up! My tornadoes gained in power as well! |<br /> Partner=no |<br /> Ranger=yes |<br /> group=Water |<br /> assist=Water |<br /> field=Soak |<br /> fieldpower=3 |<br /> loop=6 |<br /> browser=Kingdra will attack with strong jets of water when it appears above the surface. |<br /> Dungeon2=yes |<br /> body2=1 |<br /> rate2=-12% |<br /> iq=C |<br /> Ranger2=yes |<br /> group2=Water |<br /> assist2=Dragon |<br /> field2=Crush |<br /> field2power=4 |<br /> browser2=It blows {{M|bubble}}s from its mouth and lets loose {{M|Hydro Pump|widening rings of water}} to attack. |<br /> Ranger3=yes |<br /> group3=Water |<br /> assist3=Water |<br /> field3=Crush |<br /> field3power=4 |<br /> browser3=It attacks by spitting bubbles that make Pokémon Slowed. |<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Evolution===<br /> {{evobox<br /> |family=Normal<br /> |sprite1=116<br /> |name1=Horsea<br /> |type1-1=Water<br /> |evotype1=Level<br /> |level1=32<br /> |sprite2=117<br /> |name2=Seadra<br /> |type1-2=Water<br /> |evotype2=Trade<br /> |held2=Dragon Scale<br /> |sprite3=230<br /> |name3=Kingdra<br /> |type1-3=Water<br /> |type2-3=Dragon}}<br /> <br /> ===Sprites===<br /> {{Sprite|<br /> type=water|<br /> type2=dragon|<br /> gen=2|<br /> gender=none|<br /> ndex=230|<br /> name=Kingdra|<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> *Kingdra is the only non-legendary {{type2|Dragon}} Pokémon not to have a weakness to {{t|Ice}}.<br /> *Kingdra was the first Dragon-type Pokémon not to be part of the {{p|Dratini}} [[List of Pokémon by evolution family|evolution family]].<br /> *Though many of Kingdra's Pokédex entries state that it can create whirlpools, it can only learn {{m|Whirlpool|the move}} via [[HM]].<br /> **However, many of its Pokédex entries state it creates whirlpools by yawning, and it can learn the move {{m|Yawn}}.<br /> *Kingdra is the only Dragon-type Pokémon introduced in Generation II, and is, along with {{p|Misdreavus}}, the only Pokémon introduced in a generation in which there are no other Pokémon of one of its types.<br /> *Kingdra is often mistranslated to &quot;Kingora&quot; in the Chuang-Yi translation of [[Pokémon Adventures]].<br /> *Its secondary {{type2|Dragon}} may be a reference to a Japanese name for seahorses, 竜の落し子 ''tatsu-no-otoshigo'', which means &quot;dragon's child&quot;.<br /> <br /> ===Origin===<br /> Kingdra is based on a {{wp|weedy sea dragon}}, but still shares many characteristics with regular {{wp|Seahorse}}s. The fact that it dwells on the sea floor while creating whirlpools may be based on the mythical monster {{wp|Charybdis}}.<br /> <br /> ====Name origin====<br /> Kingdra's name is a combination of ''king'' and ''dragon''.<br /> <br /> ==In other languages==<br /> *[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Seedraking - From ''See'' (sea), ''Drache'' (dragon), and ''king''. <br /> *[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Hyporoi - Comes from ''hippocampe'' (seahorse) and ''roi'' (king).<br /> *[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 킹드라 ''Kingdeura''.<br /> *[[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese (Taiwan and Hong Kong)]]: 刺龍王 ''Cì Lóng Wáng'' - Literally &quot;Sting dragon king&quot;. Shares the characters &quot;刺龍&quot; with Seadra's Chinese name, 海刺龍 ''Hǎi Cì Lóng''.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> <br /> {{PokémonPrevNextFoot |type=water | type2=dragon | prevnum=229 | nextnum=231 | prev=Houndoom | next=Phanpy }}<br /> {{Project Pokédex notice}}<br /> <br /> [[de:Seedraking]]<br /> [[es:Kingdra]]<br /> [[fr:Hyporoi]]<br /> [[it:Kingdra]]<br /> [[ja:キングドラ]]<br /> [[pt:Kingdra (pokémon)]]</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Rapid_Spin_(move)&diff=1369981 2011-02-24T19:31:08Z

<p>EzekielMaple: remove unused trivia section</p> <hr /> <div>{{MoveInfobox|<br /> n=229 |<br /> name=Rapid Spin |<br /> jname=こうそくスピン |<br /> jtrans=Rapid Spin |<br /> desc=A spin attack that can also eliminate such moves as Bind, Wrap, Leech Seed, and Spikes. |<br /> gameimage=Rapid Spin IV.png |<br /> type=Normal |<br /> damagecategory=Physical |<br /> basepp=40 |<br /> maxpp=64 |<br /> power=20 |<br /> accuracy=100 |<br /> bdesc=Free from moves like Bind, Wrap and Leech Seed. |<br /> gen=II |<br /> category=Cool |<br /> appeal=2 |<br /> jam=0 |<br /> cdesc=Can avoid being startled by others once. |<br /> appealsc=2 |<br /> scdesc=Earn +2 if the Pokémon performs first in the turn. |<br /> pokefordex=rapid+spin |<br /> touches=yes |<br /> protect=yes |<br /> magiccoat=no |<br /> snatch=no |<br /> brightpowder=yes |<br /> kingsrock=yes |<br /> flag7=no |<br /> flag8=no |<br /> sound=no |<br /> target=any |<br /> footnotes= }}<br /> '''Rapid Spin''' (Japanese: '''こうそくスピン''' ''Rapid Spin'') is a damage-dealing {{type2|Normal}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation II]]. <br /> <br /> ==Effect==<br /> Rapid Spin inflicts damage and removes the effects of the following:<br /> <br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background:white; margin: auto;&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; class=&quot;sortable&quot;<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #{{normal color light}}&quot;<br /> ! [[Move|{{color|000000|Move}}]]<br /> ! [[Elemental types|{{color|000000|Type}}]]<br /> ! [[Damage category|{{color|000000|Cat.}}]]<br /> |-<br /> {{tutormv|Bind|Normal|cat=Physical}}<br /> {{tutormv|Clamp|Water|cat=Physical}}<br /> {{tutormv|Fire Spin|Fire|cat=Special}}<br /> {{tutormv|Leech Seed|Grass|cat=Status}}<br /> {{tutormv|Magma Storm|Fire|cat=Special}}<br /> {{tutormv|Sand Tomb|Ground|cat=Physical}}<br /> {{tutormv|Spikes|Ground|cat=Status}}<br /> {{tutormv|Stealth Rock|Rock|cat=Status}}<br /> {{tutormv|Toxic Spikes|Poison|cat=Status}}<br /> {{tutormv|Whirlpool|Water|cat=Special}}<br /> {{tutormv|Wrap|Normal|cat=Physical}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Learnset==<br /> ===Generation II===<br /> ====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br /> {{Learnlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|007|Squirtle|1|Water||23}}<br /> {{Moveentry|008|Wartortle|1|Water||25}}<br /> {{Moveentry|009|Blastoise|1|Water||25}}<br /> {{Moveentry|120|Staryu|1|Water||13|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|121|Starmie|2|Water|Psychic|--|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|204|Pineco|1|Bug||22}}<br /> {{Moveentry|205|Forretress|2|Bug|Steel|22}}<br /> {{Moveentry|232|Donphan|1|Ground||41}}<br /> {{Moveentry|237|Hitmontop|1|Fighting||25}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br /> {{Breedlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|027|Sandshrew|1|Ground||{{p|Donphan}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|072|Tentacool|2|Water|Poison|{{p|Shellder}}, {{p|Cloyster}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kabuto}}, {{p|Kabutops}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|090|Shellder|1|Water||{{p|Tentacool}}, {{p|Tentacruel}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kabuto}}, {{p|Kabutops}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|140|Kabuto|2|Rock|Water|{{p|Squirtle}}, {{p|Wartortle}}, {{p|Blastoise}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|225|Delibird|2|Ice|Flying|{{p|Squirtle}}, {{p|Wartortle}}, {{p|Blastoise}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Donphan}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|236|Tyrogue|1|Fighting||{{p|Hitmontop}}}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}<br /> <br /> ====By {{pkmn2|event}}====<br /> {{Learnlistspecial|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentryspecial|074|Geodude|2|Rock|Ground|[http://www.psypokes.com/dex/psydex/074/tutored New York City Pokémon Center]||5}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ===[[Generation III]]===<br /> ====By leveling up====<br /> {{Learnlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|007|Squirtle|1|Water||23}}<br /> {{Moveentry|008|Wartortle|1|Water||25}}<br /> {{Moveentry|009|Blastoise|1|Water||25}}<br /> {{Moveentry|120|Staryu|1|Water||10|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|121|Starmie|2|Water|Psychic|--|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|204|Pineco|1|Bug||22}}<br /> {{Moveentry|205|Forretress|2|Bug|Steel|22}}<br /> {{Moveentry|232|Donphan|1|Ground||41}}<br /> {{Moveentry|237|Hitmontop|1|Fighting||25}}<br /> {{Moveentry|343|Baltoy|2|Ground|Psychic|5|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|344|Claydol|2|Ground|Psychic|--&lt;br&gt;5|}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ====By breeding====<br /> {{Breedlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|027|Sandshrew|1|Ground||{{p|Donphan}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|072|Tentacool|2|Water|Poison|{{p|Shellder}}, {{p|Cloyster}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kabuto}}, {{p|Kabutops}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|090|Shellder|1|Water||{{p|Tentacool}}, {{p|Tentacruel}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kabuto}}, {{p|Kabutops}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|140|Kabuto|2|Rock|Water|{{p|Squirtle}}, {{p|Wartortle}}, {{p|Blastoise}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|225|Delibird|2|Ice|Flying|{{p|Squirtle}}, {{p|Wartortle}}, {{p|Blastoise}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Donphan}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|236|Tyrogue|1|Fighting||{{p|Hitmontop}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|347|Anorith|2|Rock|Bug|{{p|Shellder}}, {{p|Cloyster}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Tentacool}}, {{p|Tentacruel}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kabuto}}, {{p|Kabutops}}||*}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}<br /> <br /> ===[[Generation IV]]===<br /> ====By leveling up====<br /> {{Learnlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|007|Squirtle|1|Water||19}}<br /> {{Moveentry|008|Wartortle|1|Water||20}}<br /> {{Moveentry|009|Blastoise|1|Water||20}}<br /> {{Moveentry|027|Sandshrew|1|Ground||13|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|028|Sandslash|1|Ground||13|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|120|Staryu|1|Water||10|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|121|Starmie|2|Water|Psychic|--|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|204|Pineco|1|Bug||12|||DP}}<br /> {{Moveentry|204|Pineco|1|Bug||17|||PtHGSS}}<br /> {{Moveentry|205|Forretress|2|Bug|Steel|12|||DP}}<br /> {{Moveentry|205|Forretress|2|Bug|Steel|17|||PtHGSS}}<br /> {{Moveentry|232|Donphan|1|Ground||6}}<br /> {{Moveentry|237|Hitmontop|1|Fighting||24}}<br /> {{Moveentry|324|Torkoal|1|Fire||23}}<br /> {{Moveentry|343|Baltoy|2|Ground|Psychic|5|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|344|Claydol|2|Ground|Psychic|--&lt;br&gt;5|}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ====By breeding====<br /> {{Breedlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|027|Sandshrew|1|Ground||{{p|Sandshrew}}, {{p|Sandslash}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Donphan}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|072|Tentacool|2|Water|Poison|{{p|Shellder}}, {{p|Cloyster}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kabuto}}, {{p|Kabutops}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|090|Shellder|1|Water||{{p|Tentacool}}, {{p|Tentacruel}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kabuto}}, {{p|Kabutops}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|140|Kabuto|2|Rock|Water|{{p|Squirtle}}, {{p|Wartortle}}, {{p|Blastoise}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|225|Delibird|2|Ice|Flying|{{p|Squirtle}}, {{p|Wartortle}}, {{p|Blastoise}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Sandshrew}}, {{p|Sandslash}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Donphan}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Torkoal}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|236|Tyrogue|1|Fighting||{{p|Hitmontop}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|347|Anorith|2|Rock|Bug|{{p|Shellder}}, {{p|Cloyster}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Tentacool}}, {{p|Tentacruel}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Kabuto}}, {{p|Kabutops}}||*}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}<br /> <br /> ===[[Generation V]]===<br /> ====By leveling up====<br /> {{Learnlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|007|Squirtle|1|Water||19}}<br /> {{Moveentry|008|Wartortle|1|Water||20}}<br /> {{Moveentry|009|Blastoise|1|Water||20}}<br /> {{Moveentry|027|Sandshrew|1|Ground||13|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|028|Sandslash|1|Ground||13|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|120|Staryu|1|Water||10|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|121|Starmie|2|Water|Psychic|--|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|204|Pineco|1|Bug||17}}<br /> {{Moveentry|205|Forretress|2|Bug|Steel|17}}<br /> {{Moveentry|232|Donphan|1|Ground||6}}<br /> {{Moveentry|237|Hitmontop|1|Fighting||24}}<br /> {{Moveentry|324|Torkoal|1|Fire||23}}<br /> {{Moveentry|343|Baltoy|2|Ground|Psychic|7|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|344|Claydol|2|Ground|Psychic|--&lt;br&gt;7|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|529|Drilbur|1|Ground||5|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|530|Excadrill|2|Ground|Steel|--&lt;br&gt;5|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|615|Furiijio|1|Ice||13|}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ====By breeding====<br /> {{Breedlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|027|Sandshrew|1|Ground||{{MSP|027|Sandshrew}}{{MSP|028|Sandslash}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|232|Donphan}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|324|Torkoal}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|529|Drilbur}}{{MSP|530|Excadrill}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|072|Tentacool|2|Water|Poison|{{MSP|140|Kabuto}}{{MSP|141|Kabutops}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|090|Shellder|1|Water||{{MSP|140|Kabuto}}{{MSP|141|Kabutops}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|140|Kabuto|2|Rock|Water|{{MSP|007|Squirtle}}{{MSP|008|Wartortle}}{{MSP|009|Blastoise}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|225|Delibird|2|Ice|Flying|{{MSP|007|Squirtle}}{{MSP|008|Wartortle}}{{MSP|009|Blastoise}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|027|Sandshrew}}{{MSP|028|Sandslash}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|232|Donphan}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|324|Torkoal}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|529|Drilbur}}{{MSP|530|Excadrill}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|236|Tyrogue|1|Fighting||{{MSP|237|Hitmontop}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|327|Spinda|1|Normal||{{MSP|027|Sandshrew}}{{MSP|028|Sandslash}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|232|Donphan}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|237|Hitmontop}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|324|Torkoal}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|529|Drilbur}}{{MSP|530|Excadrill}}|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|347|Anorith|2|Rock|Bug|{{MSP|140|Kabuto}}{{MSP|141|Kabutops}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|529|Drilbur|1|Ground||{{MSP|027|Sandshrew}}{{MSP|028|Sandslash}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|232|Donphan}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|324|Torkoal}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|529|Drilbur}}{{MSP|530|Excadrill}}}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}<br /> <br /> ==In the anime==<br /> {{moveanime|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The Pokémon spins and becomes a twister. This move can be used offensively and defensively|image1=Claydol Rapid Spin.png|image1p=Claydol|image2=Staryu rapidspin.jpg|image2p=Staryu|image3=Forretress rapid spin.png|image3p=Forretress|image4=Dusknoir r spin.png|image4p=Dusknoir}}<br /> {{movep|type=normal|ms=009|pkmn=Blastoise|method=Blastoise pulls its head, arms, legs and cannons into its shell and spins like a disc. It either deflects the opponent's attack or spins into the opponent.}}<br /> {{movemid|type=normal|user=Mewtwo (anime)|user1=Mewtwo's cloned Blastoise|startcode=M01|startname=Mewtwo Strikes Back|notes=Debut}}<br /> {{movemid|type=normal|user=Gary's Blastoise|startcode=EP270|startname=Can't Beat the Heat!}}<br /> {{movemid|type=normal|user=Sid|user1=Sid's Blastoise|startcode=M07|startname=Destiny Deoxys}}<br /> {{movep|type=normal|ms=120|pkmn=Staryu|method=Staryu spins like a saw blade, using the tips of its appendages as a cutting edge, or if stuck in a whirlpool, it spins around in the opposite direction as the whirlpool.}}<br /> {{movemid|type=normal|user=Misty's Staryu|startcode=M03|startname=Spell of the Unown}}<br /> {{movep|type=normal|ms=237|pkmn=Hitmontop|method=Hitmontop does a headstand, spins, and tackles the opponent.}}<br /> {{movemid|type=normal|user=Chigusa|user1=Chigusa's Hitmontop|startcode=EP166|startname=Two Hits and a Miss}}<br /> {{movemid|type=normal|user=Butch|user1=Butch's Hitmontop|startcode=EP222|startname=A Promise is a Promise}}<br /> {{movemid|type=normal|user=Terri|user1=Terri's Hitmontop|startcode=AG145|startname=Pasta La Vista!}}<br /> {{movemid|type=normal|user=Hitmontop (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer's Hitmontop|startcode=AG176|startname=The Ole' Berate and Switch!}}<br /> {{movemid|type=normal|user=Hitmontop (Pokémon)|user1=A Coordinator's Hitmontop|startcode=DP161|startname=Yes in Dee Dee, It's Dawn!}}<br /> {{movep|type=normal|ms=205|pkmn=Forretress|method=Forretress spins and tackles the opponent. Sometimes, it pulls its horns into its body and closes up its shell to attack.}}<br /> {{movemid|type=normal|user=Brock's Forretress|startcode=EP260|startname=A Crowning Achivement}}<br /> {{movep|type=normal|ms=343|pkmn=Baltoy|method=Baltoy spins rapidly, deflecting attacks.}}<br /> {{movemid|type=normal|user=Calista (Hoenn)|user1=Calista's Baltoy|startcode=AG076|startname=Me, Myself and Time}}<br /> {{movep|type=normal|ms=344|pkmn=Claydol|method=Claydol spins around quickly, repelling any attack back at the opponent, or Claydol lifts its arms, spins around quickly and floats into the opponent.}}<br /> {{movemid|type=normal|user=Giant Pokémon|user1=A giant Claydol|startcode=AG104|startname=Claydol Big and Tall}}<br /> {{movemid|type=normal|user=Palace Maven Spenser|user1=Spenser's Claydol|startcode=AG164|startname=Ka Boom with a View!}}<br /> {{movemid|type=normal|user=Buck|user1=Buck's Claydol|startcode=DP181|startname=Bucking the Treasure Trend!}}<br /> {{movep|type=normal|ms=007|pkmn=Squirtle|method=Squirtle pulls its limbs into its shell and spins around, hitting the opponent.}}<br /> {{movemid|type=normal|user=May's Squirtle|startcode=AG152|startname=On Olden Pond}}<br /> {{movemid|type=normal|user=Ash's Squirtle|startcode=AG189|startname=Gathering the Gang of Four!}}<br /> {{movep|type=normal|ms=008|pkmn=Wartortle|method=Wartortle pulls all of its limbs into its shell and it spins like a disk.}}<br /> {{movemid|type=normal|user=May's Wartortle|startcode=DP077|startname=Staging a Heroes' Welcome!}}<br /> {{movep|type=normal|ms=477|pkmn=Dusknoir|method=Dusknoir spins its body rapidly, knocking the opponent away from it.}}<br /> {{movebtm|type=normal|user=Dusknoir (Explorers of Time, Darkness, and Sky)|startcode=SS021|startname=Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky - Beyond Time &amp; Darkness|notes=Dusknoir {{color2|6D6D4E|Anime move errors|cannot legally learn}} Rapid Spin}}<br /> <br /> ==In the manga==<br /> <br /> ===Pokémon Adventures===<br /> {{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user spins its body, repelling attacks.|image1=Starmie Rapid Spin Adventures.png|image1p=Starmie}}<br /> {{movep|type=normal|ms=121|pkmn=Starmie|method=Starmie jumps into the air and spins its body rapidly, then charges at the opponent, spinning like a frisbee.}}<br /> {{movebtmManga|type=normal|user=Misty's Starmie|startcode=PS156|startname=Mighty Flight, Noctowl!|notes=Debut}}<br /> <br /> ==In other languages==<br /> * French: '''Tour Rapide'''<br /> * German: '''Turbodreher'''<br /> * Greek: '''Γρήγορος Στροβιλισμός'''<br /> * Hindi: ''Tez Ghoomo''<br /> * Italian: '''Rapigiro'''<br /> * Korean: '''고속스핀''' ''Gosok Spin''<br /> * Spanish: '''Giro Rápido'''<br /> * Portuguese (European): '''Giro Rápido'''<br /> * Serbian: '''Brzo Okretanje'''<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}<br /> <br /> [[pl:Rapid Spin]]<br /> [[pt:Rapid Spin]]<br /> <br /> [[de:Turbodreher]]<br /> [[fr:Tour Rapide]]<br /> [[ja:こうそくスピン]]</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Move_variations/Archive_1&diff=1369933 2011-02-24T18:53:20Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* Psycho Shock */</p> <hr /> <div>== Template? ==<br /> <br /> This page was an excellent idea, but I wonder if there's a way to indicate in each move's article when it belongs to one of these &quot;archetypes&quot;. --[[User:Johans|Johans Nidorino]] 21:10, 19 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I suggested it but it was forgotten later on; and unfortunately, I don't know how to make templates. -([[User:Llxwarbirdxll|Llxwarbirdxll]] 02:35, 29 May 2007 (UTC))<br /> :Template namespace. I'll whip one up. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 02:53, 29 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Maybe this is not the right place to suggest, but take a look at the template (Flamethrower as an example):<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; class=&quot;toccolours&quot; cellspacing=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;border: 3px solid #88a; border-radius:20px; -moz-border-radius:20px;&quot; <br /> |-<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background: #ccf; border: border-radius:20px; -moz-border-radius:20px; padding: 2px 15px;&quot; | [[Move variations|Variations]] of the move {{m|Flamethrower}}<br /> |- style=&quot;font-size:90%;&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | {{ic|Special}}<br /> | {{mcolor|Flamethrower|{{fire color}}}} | {{mcolor|Ice Beam|{{ice color dark}}}} | {{mcolor|Slime Wave|{{poison color dark}}}} | {{mcolor|Thunderbolt|{{electric color dark}}}}<br /> |}<br /> &lt;noinclude&gt;[[Category:Move navigation templates]]&lt;/noinclude&gt;<br /> ::Flamethrower mentioned twice, while there is no actual link to ''Variations of Flamethrower''. I believe it will be better this way:<br /> <br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; class=&quot;toccolours&quot; cellspacing=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;border: 3px solid #88a; border-radius:20px; -moz-border-radius:20px;&quot; <br /> |-<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background: #ccf; border: border-radius:20px; -moz-border-radius:20px; padding: 2px 15px;&quot; | [[Move_variations#Variations_of_Flamethrower|Variations of the move Flamethrower]]:<br /> |- style=&quot;font-size:90%;&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | {{ic|Special}}<br /> | {{mcolor|Flamethrower|{{fire color}}}} | {{mcolor|Ice Beam|{{ice color dark}}}} | {{mcolor|Slime Wave|{{poison color dark}}}} | {{mcolor|Thunderbolt|{{electric color dark}}}}<br /> |}<br /> &lt;noinclude&gt;[[Category:Move navigation templates]]&lt;/noinclude&gt;<br /> ::--[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 11:09, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::I agree. It does make more sense that way. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:12, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Variation ==<br /> <br /> There neeeds to be a Move Variation for the Following moves:<br /> * {{m|Psybeam}}<br /> * {{m|Bubblebeam}}<br /> * {{m|Aurora Beam}}<br /> * {{m|Sludge}}<br /> * {{m|Spark}}<br /> I have checked them all out and they each have:<br /> * Power: 65<br /> * Accuracy: 100%<br /> * PP: 20 <br /> P.S. I don't know how to do this myself so really I'm asking for somebody to do this for me!<br /> [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 16:53, 13 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Actually, I'm not sure if this should be counted as they each have a different added effect, either a [[status ailment]] or a [[stat]] change. Somebody gie me their:view...[[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 20:32, 16 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Maybe keep the status-changing ones together, and keep the stat-changing ones together, but keep them separate. That means {{m|Psybeam}}, {{m|Sludge}}, and {{m|Spark}} go together, and {{m|BubbleBeam}} and {{m|Aurora Beam}} go together.<br /> :And don't forget to use the {{template|m}} template for moves. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 00:22, 17 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> By the way, I think you've got the wrong idea. I'm not sure on how to create the move variation. I only realised they were similar... [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 15:34, 18 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == &quot;Or&quot; ==<br /> <br /> Is &quot;10 or 15&quot; valid [[Move variations#Variations of Shadow Ball|here]]? I'd say the use of every possible move variation no matter the amount of PPs it has would require a redefinition. BTW, {{m|Ice Beam}} and {{m|Thunder}} don't belong in the tables they've been introduced in if following the original criterion. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 05:04, 22 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Sorry, I put those there. I'll have them removed. [[User:Llxwarbirdxll|Llxwarbirdxll]] 08:20, 28 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :LOL, now somebody else did the same with variations of Slash, Waterfall, and Shadow Ball :P --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:08, 7 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> People are no longer respecting the &quot;PPs&quot; part of the definition. With &quot;Variations of Flamethrower&quot; the article mentions neither 15 nor 10 now. If this is going to continue, maybe Bulbapedia's definition on &quot;move variations&quot; should no longer include PPs, which seems to be the least important of the three columns. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 18:35, 5 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Seismic Toss and Night Shade? ==<br /> <br /> Those belong on the list, right?<br /> [[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 20:10, 15 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Doesn't {{m|Night Shade}} do somewhere from 1 to 1.5x the level? I know {{m|Seismic Toss}} does the level. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 23:07, 15 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::No, Psywave does from 0.5 to 1.5x the level. But Night Shade always does damage equal to the level. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Still, they don't have the same amout of default total PPs. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 01:53, 16 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::They're stretching it nowadays though. Hmm...{{m|Zap Cannon}} and {{m|Dynamicpunch}}... [[User:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#D5AA00&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;'''''ht'''''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;''14''&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 22:11, 19 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> Well, I'm sure {{m|Stone Edge}} and {{m|Cross Chop}} are variations. [[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 07:00, 24 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Definitely ^_^ --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:46, 24 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Stub?==<br /> Is it Still a stub?--[[User:Torchic-ken|Torchic-ken]] 2:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah, there's a few missing bits. [[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 00:10, 6 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Mean Look/Block/Spider Web? ==<br /> <br /> I noticed there isn't a section for these three moves, and while Block and Mean Look fit a &quot;5 PP, Prevents foe from escaping&quot; description, Spider Web only has one thing setting them apart and that's the PP issue. Should I add it anyway? [[User:TinaTheKirlia|TinaTheKirlia]] 01:47, 7 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Add only Mean Look and Block. That's what has been done in these cases to agree with the current definition of &quot;move archetypes&quot;. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 08:01, 7 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Counter and Mirror Coat? ==<br /> <br /> I'm really surprised no one did this - they both have 10PP, varying power, 100% accuracy and they both go last and counter the foe's attack at two times the power. I was trying to find a good way to summarize it though - how's this? &quot;Goes last and counters the move used by the foe at twice the power&quot;. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;Tina&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;The&lt;/span&gt;]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;Kirlia&lt;/span&gt;]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 21:23, 6 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> :That works. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;TTE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 23:41, 6 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Softboiled and Milk Drink ==<br /> <br /> Even though they're listed under variations of Recover.. they both can do something Recover can not -- heal other Pokémon's HP outside of battle. I think this deserves a mention. :P [[User:Tina|Tina]]&lt;sup&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 18:58, 29 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Contests? ==<br /> <br /> I think it would be incredibly useful to have a version of this page for contests, since many of the moves do the exact same things.<br /> Thoughts...? [[User:Maki|Maki]] 13:47, 19 March 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I agree. However it'd have to be set up differently. It'd be like... effect, cute moves, beauty moves, smart moves, tough moves, cool moves. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 20:49, 21 March 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Blizzard ==<br /> <br /> Are Magma Storm and Focus Blast ''really'' variations of Blizzard? Neither inflict a status ailment and Magma Storm sounds more like a multi-turn move. The only similarities seem to be 120 power<br /> <br /> Also, I think Thunder should be added as a variation. It has 10 PP, not 5, but it causes a status ailment, has 120 power and 70 accuracy. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:28, 21 March 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Thunder and Blizzard also have their accuracy at 100% when used during a specific weather condition. Magma Storm seems most like Outrage, though that goes 2-3 turns, and Focus Blast is just... its own thing. Not ''every'' move has a counterpart, that's what people need to remember. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 20:38, 21 March 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::That's what I mean, a lot of the moves I mentioned, as well as Hydro Pump, Seed Flare and Fire Blast are all ''similar'', but variations of each other? I'd say they're similar moves, but not direct variations. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:40, 21 March 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::Yes. Variations: Do the same thing. Similarity: have the same PP, power, or accuracy but don't do the same thing. Outrage and Thrash are variations, despite Outrage now being 120 power. Focus Blast and Blizzard are not because all they share is accuracy and power. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 21:21, 21 March 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::::So, should we move some of the moves I mentioned around? That's what I've been suggesting. I think Magma Storm should be grouped with Outrage and Thrash, and Blizzard, Thunder and Gunk Shot should be in a group. Maybe Seed Flare and Focus Blast too, their effects are identical except for accuracy. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 00:39, 22 March 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Order==<br /> Why aren't they in alphabetical order? {{u|MathijsP}}<br /> :Beats me. Last time I organized them I put them in order by damage. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:59, 20 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Dragon Claw, X-Scissor, Seed Bomb==<br /> <br /> Aren't these all variations? They all do 80 damage, have 15 PP, and no added effect. Can I add them? --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 18:25, 12 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> :You forget to mention the accuracy, but it happens that it's the same! So yeah, they're move variations. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 18:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> Great. I guess I'll add them now. --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 18:25, 12 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Actually, I don't think I know how to do the template. Can someone else do that? --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 18:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Nevermind, I got them. :) --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 21:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Ice Beam?==<br /> <br /> Ice Beam has only 10 PP, yet it's claimed to be a variation of Flamethrower and Thunderbolt, which have 15 PP. Can I remove that? --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 21:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Ice Beam is the most useful of all three, but is still the same. Same power, accuracy and rate to inflict a status problem. Part of Ice Beam may be the fact frozen Pokémon are helpless. [[User:Gywall|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF8800&quot;&gt;'''Gyw&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFAE00&quot;&gt;all'''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:15, 12 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::Ice Beam is one of the more visible move variations in normal gameplay. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|&lt;/sup&gt; 21:21, 12 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> Ah. I see. OK. --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 00:46, 13 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Air Slash? ==<br /> <br /> I wonder if, shouldnt Air Slash be in the &quot;variations of Slash&quot; since it IS a Slash move after all? o: what do you people think? I havn't really looked up the PP, accuracy and power, but its very similar to Night Slash and Slash. :c--[[User:Angela-Samshi|Angela-Samshi]] 17:50, 23 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Slash and Night Slash have high critical-hit ratios, Air Slash may cause the opponent to flinch. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&lt;font color=&quot;midnightblue&quot; face=&quot;comic sans ms&quot;&gt;'''$aturn'''&lt;/font&gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; face=&quot;comic sans ms&quot;&gt;'''¥oshi'''&lt;/font&gt;]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&lt;font color=&quot;maroon&quot;&gt;THE VOICES&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 17:54, 23 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Ahh, ok thanks. --[[User:Angela-Samshi|Angela-Samshi]] 18:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pound &lt;-&gt; Gust? ==<br /> <br /> Gust isn't a variation of Pound, is it? - [[User:FireHazard|Hazardous FIRE!]] 00:08, 5 September 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Yes it is. 35 PP, 40 power, 100% accuracy&amp;ndash;yup, variation. --[[user:Baby G|Baby G]] &lt;small&gt;([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]])&lt;/small&gt; &lt;small&gt;([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]])&lt;/small&gt; 23:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Arm Thrust ==<br /> <br /> I read that the accuracy of Arm Thrust was 100 percent, but it was under the variations of Barrage, saying that its accuracy was 85 percent. Is its accuracy 85 or 100, cuz I don't wanna do an edit with wrong info.---[[User:Hitmonchan90|Hitmonchan90]] 23:07, 23 September 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Bulk Up and Calm Mind?==<br /> <br /> They both have 20 PP, and raise Attack and Defense/Special Attack and Special Defense one stage, respectively. Variants? All signs point to yes. [[User:Master Lucario|Master Lucario]]<br /> :Yep, variations. Added. --[[user:Baby G|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF4500;&quot;&gt;Baby G]]&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;([[user talk:Baby G|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#D1E231;&quot;&gt;talk to me]]&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;/small&gt; &lt;small&gt;([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B87333;&quot;&gt;see my edits]]&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;/small&gt; 21:30, 5 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Reorganised ==<br /> <br /> Since the moves were looking kinda messy, since the order was somewhat random, I went and moved the sections around to order it A-Z. Exceptions being Elemental X and the OHKO moves as they are listed differently. [[User:Gywall|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF8800&quot;&gt;'''Gyw&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFAE00&quot;&gt;all'''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 17:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I believe the order was by Base Power of the attacks. [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 13:29, 23 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sections for both {{m|Tail Glow}} AND {{m|Agility}}? ==<br /> <br /> I've noticed that there are two sections that both share similar attributes, both sections detail moves that have 20 PP but increase a stat two stages, however, One details just Special attack raisers while the other details the other ones.<br /> <br /> Should there be two or should they be put together? [[User:PDL|PDL]] 00:22, 23 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I was thinking the same thing, but then I found out that all the listed variations of Agility (including Agility itself) have ''30'' PP, and that Tail Glow and {{m|Nasty Plot}} have ''20'' PP. --[[user:chocolate|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6D351A;&quot;&gt;Cho&lt;/span&gt;]][[user talk:chocolate|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6D351A;&quot;&gt;col&lt;/span&gt;]][[special:contributions/chocolate|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6D351A;&quot;&gt;ate&lt;/span&gt;]] 00:23, 23 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Agility has 30 PP.Otherwise, I would say yes--[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;Talk&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Contributions&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> <br /> I just noticed that now as well ^^; [[User:PDL|PDL]] 00:35, 23 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Crabhammer ==<br /> <br /> Both Crabhammer and Blaze Kick ''used'' to be signature moves. Should this be noted? --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 21:43, 25 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I don't think it should. &lt;sup&gt;&lt;big&gt;[[user:chocolate|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6D351A;&quot;&gt;Cho&lt;/span&gt;]][[user talk:chocolate|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6D351A;&quot;&gt;col&lt;/span&gt;]][[special:contributions/chocolate|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6D351A;&quot;&gt;ate&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; 21:47, 25 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Lock-On/Mind Reader ==<br /> <br /> How about them? [[User:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#D5AA00&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;''ht''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;''14''&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:19, 18 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I remember them having the exactly same effect, so if my memory serves me right, they could be added. &lt;span style=&quot;color: #3FFF00; font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;UltimateSephiroth&lt;/span&gt; &lt;sup&gt;(&lt;span style=&quot;color: #003FFF&quot;&gt;[[User:UltimateSephiroth|user]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|contrib]]&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;/sup&gt; 23:29, 18 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::How about {{m|Whirlwind}} and {{m|Roar}}? [[User:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#D5AA00&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;''ht''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;''14''&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 04:05, 14 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == {{m|Spikes}} / {{m|Toxic Spikes}} ==<br /> <br /> Should these be parterned up?--[[User:RexRacer|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#E7CE6B&quot;&gt;Rex&lt;/font&gt;]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|&lt;font color=&quot;#42528C&quot;&gt;Racer&lt;/font&gt;''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#FF5A00&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;''-talk''&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/font&gt;''']] 16:26, 23 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Don't forget about {{m|Stealth Rock}}, too. &lt;sup&gt;[[user:chocolate|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6D351A;&quot;&gt;Cho&lt;/span&gt;]][[user talk:chocolate|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6D351A;&quot;&gt;col&lt;/span&gt;]][[special:contributions/chocolate|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6D351A;&quot;&gt;ate&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 16:28, 23 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == This page needs work ==<br /> <br /> First of all, should PP be accounted for or not? Right now, some do and some don't. I don't really care which one we go with, so long as it's consistent.<br /> <br /> Second, effects are not being grouped together consistently either. Example: Spark has a 30% chance of inducing Paralyze. Psybeam has a 10% chance of inducing Confusion. 30 != 10. Another example: Flamethrower has a 10% chance of inducing Burn. Surf has 0% chance of inducing anything at all, and has a different target range on top of that. Also, the diffence between &quot;Acid Armor variations&quot; and &quot;Amnesia variations&quot;? Ignoring the PP difference (the Acid Armor variations already do this anyway), who really cares if they raise Special stats or not? You could just as easily group them by Defense or Attack stats. On the other hand, I say just go with &quot;raises a stat by two stages&quot; and leave it at that.<br /> <br /> Third, I do not think &quot;non-[http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/volatile volatile]&quot; means what you think it means. Why not just put &quot;non-damaging effect&quot; or something else a bit more clear and grammatically correct? [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I never thought PP should be accounted for. A lot of the moves might have the same PP but if all the important other stuff is the same, the moves are pretty much variations! [[User:Toastypk|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#BB0000&quot;&gt;'''''~Toastypk'''''&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#770077&quot;&gt;'''&lt;sup&gt;Loom.&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;''']] 05:06, 12 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thief and Covet will never be counted as variations if taking PP into account. --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 15:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :And that's the sad thing, they're pretty much the same kind of item-stealing damaging move. PP is a moot point! [[User:Toastypk|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#BB0000&quot;&gt;'''''~Toastypk'''''&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#770077&quot;&gt;'''&lt;sup&gt;Loom.&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;''']] 00:22, 13 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::If there's only one thing different about a move variation, it can still be considered a variation. For example, {{m|Surf}} is one of the {{m|Flamethrower}} variations, because it has the same power, PP, and accuracy. The only thing different is the effect. [[User:Chocolate|&lt;font color=&quot;6D351A&quot;&gt;Chocolate&lt;/font&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;([[User talk:Chocolate|&lt;font color=&quot;6D351A&quot;&gt;Chat with Me&lt;/font&gt;]])&lt;/small&gt; 00:44, 13 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Actually, you could argue that Surf is a variation of Earthquake, since they have the same range and the same effect (none). Surf has more PP and less power, but it also has two things different from Flamethrower: range and effect. See? You can't just go &quot;Oh they're close ENOUGH&quot;, you have to pick your criteria and stick with it. Either effect counts or it doesn't count. Either range counts or it doesn't count. Either PP counts or it doesn't count. If you start flubbing things, that's only going to make things more complicated down the line. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 03:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Earthquake has the anti-{{m|Dig}} effect. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 02:55, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::Good point, that's another thing they have in common, since Surf can hit during Dive too. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 03:15, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::I don't think there needs to be a set of rigid rules for move variations. By definition, variation implies differing conditions, character, and degree. That said, I do think that a move variations should have identical or ''very'' similar effects. PP and base power are relatively unimportant to me, when two moves have unique identical effects. Consider Bind, Fire Spin, and Whirlpool: they are all multi-turn attacks that trap their foe. They work exactly the same, and have relatively unique effects (only a handful of moves work like this). However, Bulbapedia currently only considers Fire Spin and Whirlpool as &quot;variations&quot;.&amp;nbsp;&amp;mdash;&amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;sub&gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&lt;/sub&gt; 03:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::I think that trapping should have its own page. It's not as if the creators sat around and thought, &quot;Hey, wouldn't it be cool to have a clone of this move for that element?&quot; I think the process was more like, &quot;Hey, why not have this as a mechanic?&quot; --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 05:12, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::Minor problem with that though. Ember, Flamethrower and Fire Blast (and probably others but those are the big ones) all have a 10% chance of causing burn. Moreover, they're all Fire attacks. If we go solely by effect, then that makes them variations of each other. So then we have moves that are multiple variations in one. Is that really ok? I mean, I can see it going either way...<br /> <br /> :::::One possibility is to split it into two things, where there are moves that are strictly exact copies of each other minus type and specific effect (not % chance of effect though, that has to say the same), and then other moves that just do the same thing but are not exact copies. Like, if I want to look for moves that cause Burn, there could be a category that I could go to and look there, and likewise for moves that cause trapping, or moves that hit everyone on the field. Does that sound reasonable? [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 01:14, 15 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::I'm not talking about secondary effects like 10% of burn or confusion. I agree that there should be a [[list of moves that burn]] (not a category, unfortunately), but I don't think they should be considered variations. In my mind, examples of move variations are moves that have some unique game mechanic, such as {{m|Wrap|multi-turn}} {{m|Magma Storm|trapping}} {{m|Sand Tomb|moves}}, {{m|Fly|moves with}} {{m|Dig|an initial}} {{m|Shadow Force|invulnerable}} {{m|Dive|turn}}, {{m|Block|moves that}} {{m|Spider Web|prevent}} {{m|Mean Look|escape}}, or {{m|Protect|moves that can negate}} {{m|Detect|all negative effects}}&amp;mdash;Moves that work so similarly that there are, for example, abilities that negate the set of them or moves that counter-act a set of them. These should be considered move variations.&amp;nbsp;&amp;mdash;&amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;sub&gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&lt;/sub&gt; 01:33, 15 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Starting tabs over.<br /> <br /> I've always considered anything that does not cause damage on an otherwise damaging move to be a secondary effect so I think we are going to differ in thought there, unfortunately. Example: Razor Wind requires charging, has a high crit rate and deals damage, so the charging and high crit rate are both secondary effects. Screech causes only Defense down, so Defense down is the primary effect.<br /> <br /> Taking each thing in turn, I don't think that just because Wrap and Magma Storm both cause multi-turn trapping is enough for them to be considered variations. They ought to have a page specifying this, but this does not make them variations, in the same way as Ember and Flamethrower. Ditto with with the semi-invulnerable moves. They are different enough (note which moves can hit which during the invulnerable turn, not to mention Power) to warrant an obviously acknowledged ''similarity'' but not actual variations.<br /> <br /> As for your last two examples, those moves DO essentially do the exact same thing in every way, with the exception of PP, so I think, if we decide to exclude PP from the criteria (which I am fairly convinced we ought to do by now), then yes, I would consider those move variations.<br /> <br /> (Somewhat off-topic, why not a category instead of a page? Then there would be links from the moves pages themselves, so they can actually be found... The Pokédex has tons of categories, I've noticed...) [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 02:14, 15 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Also, {{m|Mud-Slap}} and {{m|Sand-Attack}} are both Ground moves with a 100% chance of lowering Accuracy, and this can be prevented by abilities such as {{a|Keen Eye}}, but they're still clearly not variations of each other, right? (Asking because I consider Wrap and Bind and the like to be moves with 100% chance of causing trapping) [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 02:24, 15 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Why aren't Wrap and Magma Storm variations? They have the same primary effects (inflict damage over several turns at the end of each turn) and secondary effects (trap target during those turns). (Though there's no official source ordering those as primary and secondary; they could just as easily be reversed.) I realize that Ember and Flamethrower also have the same primary and secondary effects, but another issue I pointed out above is ''unique game-mechanics''. There are a hundred moves that have the same primary effect as Ember and Flamethrower (inflict damage) and very similar secondary effects (10% of a major status ailment). However, there are only 5 moves that work like Wrap and Magma Storm. I think that makes them remarkable enough to be noted as move variations.<br /> ::Since the definition of variation means details can vary. That means we could consider numerous damaging moves to be variations of each other. But I don't think it's notable if they don't have something that sets them apart from other moves.<br /> ::(As for the category thing, I don't know for sure, but the tons of categories issue might be the reason they didn't want even more categories for each detail.)&amp;nbsp;&amp;mdash;&amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;sub&gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&lt;/sub&gt; 02:39, 15 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::It seems to me like what you want would be better expressed in a different page, like &quot;Moves that cause the same unique effects&quot; ...Okay, &quot;same unique&quot; is a bit oxymoronic, but you know what I mean. ^^;<br /> <br /> :::The reason I chose Mud-Slap and Sand-Attack as examples is because they ARE unique, in that Accuracy is not a standard stat, and there are only 5 moves that lower accuracy (and none that raise it, I think): Mud-Slap, Sand-Attack, {{m|Flash}}, {{m|Mirror Shot}}, and {{m|Muddy Water}}, but these are clearly not similar in any other way but that. (Asides from Flash and Sand-Attack, I would consider those variations of the other, with Gen IV's de-nerfing of Flash.) This page seems to have been created to illustrate which moves have only minor differences, with Power, Accuracy and % effect and PP cited specifically as things that must be the same. No matter which way you cut it, the only thing Wrap and Magma Storm have in common is their secondary multi-turn trapping effect, and I consider multi-turn trapping damage to be a single secondary effect (You are never going to have one of those moves inflict one without the other). Primary effect defaults to damage except for moves that do not ever deal damage. The game even categorizes them as Physical [[Image:PhysicalIC.gif]] and Special [[Image:SpecialIC.gif]], not Status [[Image:StatusIC.gif]]. You can cite their uniqueness, but there are only so many moves that do unique, specific things, like Burn, or charge, or high-crit, but then you'll end up with almost every move out there having at least one if not multiple variations. If you want to get really unique, {{m|Flame Wheel}} and {{m|Sacred Fire}} are the only moves that can thaw out their user. That makes them variations according to your definition, but they have nothing in common according to the definition already defined on this page. I think this all does deserve to be noted somewhere, but I don't think this is the right place, is what I'm trying to say. ._.; [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:06, 15 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I am aware that calling certain moves variations of each other would go against the narrow definition of move variations already defined by this page, but I think it is incorrect. I give up though, so I'll just continue ignoring it.&amp;nbsp;&amp;mdash;&amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;sub&gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&lt;/sub&gt; 04:40, 15 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Protect? Detect? ==<br /> <br /> Aren't they variations of each other? --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 08:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Someone should go down this whole talk page and just do it. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 08:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Phred: They have the same effect, it looks like, but Detect has half of Protect's PP, so no, not according to our definition.<br /> ::Raijinili: What? --[[User:Martonimos|((&lt;font color=&quot;#008000&quot;&gt;Marton&lt;/font&gt;]] [[User talk:Martonimos|&lt;font color=&quot;#50C878&quot;&gt;imos&lt;/font&gt;))]] 08:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Although there are moves that say &quot;10 or 15 pp&quot; or something similar, so maybe... --[[User:Martonimos|((&lt;font color=&quot;#008000&quot;&gt;Marton&lt;/font&gt;]] [[User talk:Martonimos|&lt;font color=&quot;#50C878&quot;&gt;imos&lt;/font&gt;))]] 08:33, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::I think a difference in PP is a poor reason not to consider two moves as variations of each other. They obviously have the same effect.&amp;nbsp;&amp;mdash;&amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;sub&gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&lt;/sub&gt; 08:40, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::To the point where the two moves share the same success rate. --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 23:47, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Rock Slide and Air Slash ==<br /> Both have 75 BP, 30% Chance of Flinch, and 95(?) Accuraccy. I think that makes them variations on the same move.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 16:01, 25 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thief and Covet ==<br /> <br /> The only item-stealing damaging moves, with same power and accuracy, are yet to be covered here. I dropped a line earlier in hopes of the issue being picked up by more people, but it failed, my mistake. So I chose to be more direct in approach and now I ask, if other moves have ignored PP in favor of more relevant traits, shouldn't these two be listed as variations? I think there even used to be a template for both, but it got deleted. --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 16:13, 9 March 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == {{m|Glare}} and {{m|Stun Spore}} ==<br /> <br /> Same effect, PP, accuracy and power (or the lack of it), varies on type only . These are variations, so I'll add them, but I don't know how to put the template on the move pages... {{u|Mr. Charlie}} 22:57, 14 March 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Strength as first in a variation ==<br /> <br /> I've realized that Dragon Claw and the others are exactly like Strength but in type, so i've changed that, and made Strength as the first in the variation. This is my first edit, i hope it's all-right, I don't know if the move wasn't in there because it is a HM.<br /> <br /> --[[User:PokeTech|PokeTech]] 12:48, 3 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Kudos for effort there. But yeah, we don't include HMs so it'll have to go back to how it was. Sorry. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::''we don't include HMs'' Doesn't explain Waterfall, and no, &quot;it wasn't a HM originally&quot; doesn't seem like a good rationale to me. [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 12:09, 15 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Well, I hadn't realized this at the time, but the variations of Waterfall have the flinching effect. And I see what you mean when you say that about not explaining it well. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:08, 15 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Weather Moves ==<br /> <br /> Aren't the weather moves variations of each other? Or at least Rain Dance/Sunny Day and Snadstorm/Hail? I mean, they all change to a weather for five turns. [[User:Mr. Charlie|Mr. ]][[User talk:Mr. Charlie|Charlie]] 18:25, 27 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> :I guess you could consider them variations of each other, but I've never really thought of them like that. I'd wait to add it untill more people agree or disagree. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 18:51, 27 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::They all change weather but their effects are different. Well, indirectly. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 21:40, 28 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::That's the thing... I don't know if it should be added or not... they're like the elemental punches (damage + chance of status problem), because they change the weather condition during the battle and have a side effect... [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:07, 28 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::Go for it. Sunny Day, Rain Dance and Hail are all exactly the same (IIRC) and Sandstorm has 5 more PP. I'm not sure whether that matters, coz you guys had a huge argument about that... &amp;mdash; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000C8&quot;&gt;THE TROM&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] &amp;mdash; 23:26, 28 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::Should I add it as &quot;Variations of *insert weather move*&quot; or as &quot;Weather Conditions/Moves&quot;? I'll add it anyways, but should it need to have the title changed I'll do that. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:04, 29 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::Or should it be, like the original question, Rain Dance/Sunny Day and Sandstorm/Hail? Eh, I'll put it all together for now and it can be changed later.... [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:09, 29 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Powders and Flattering ==<br /> <br /> How come that {{m|PoisonPowder}}, {{m|Sleep Powder}} and {{m|Stun Spore}} aren't move variations? They have the same accuracy, animation, the same Contest appeal and Pokémon learn them around the same time, it kind of makes sense that they are.&lt;br&gt;<br /> Also {{m|Flatter}} and {{m|Swagger}} are variations as they both confuse but Swagger ups attack and Flatter ups Special Attack, I'm not sure how to add them lmao, I thought I should say it here first though ;) --[[User:Ripp145|Ripp145]] 12:23, 26 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Apparently, Flatter only raises Special Attack one stage, while Swagger raises Attack by two stages. Also, both have different accuracy. Too many differences to qualify. --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 02:33, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::The powders aren't considered variations yet?! ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Red&quot;&gt;Cu&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Bronze&quot;&gt;bo&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Green&quot;&gt;ne&lt;/font&gt;]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|&lt;font color=&quot;Black&quot;&gt;King&lt;/font&gt;]] 02:36, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::If we're discussing variations to add, I have a couple suggestions.<br /> :Arm Thrust as a variation of Barrage<br /> :Bind and Wrap as variations of Fire Spin<br /> :Dark Pulse as variation of Zen Headbutt<br /> :Fire Blast and Megahorn as variations of Blizzard<br /> ::With all these variations, they share identical effects, power and PP. The only difference between the suggested moves and the established moves is that accuracy is a tiny bit higher or lower. Also, some of the moves listed as variations don't qualify but are listed anyway. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:02, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Okay, I made a change that in hindsight I'm unsure of. In Gen 3, Leaf Blade fit the requirements to be considered a variation of Slash - 70 power, 15 pp, 100% accuracy, high chance for critical. But in Gen 4 it's power is 90, and it has its own variation now, Attack Order. So....what do we do? IMO, it should be considered variations of both, depending on the Generation. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 04:01, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Yeah, no. The Barrage variations all have the same power and accuracy, Arm Thrust only has the same power. Fire Blast and Megahorn are different than Blizzard for a lot of things: Fire Blast has more accuracy, Megahorn has more accuracy, Megahorn has no secondary effect. Dark Pulse has more accuracy than Zen Headbutt. Bind, Wrap, and Fire Spin all have differnt accuracies. There's more to this page than just &quot;Oh, it looks similar or has similar accuracy/PP/Power/type!&quot; There's reasons that most of these aren't on there. The ones that don't seem like they fit are included because they either were the same, or are now the same. And Leaf Blade doesn't count, because it's already in a category that's more specific. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 20:15, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Why does Leaf Blade not count? It fit all the requirements before it's power was changed, if it doesn't count than neither does Zap Cannon as a variation of Dynamic Punch. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:26, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :And like I said, there's already moves listed as variations that don't fit the requirements to count, or the requirements are flexible like &quot;move does X or Y&quot;. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:28, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I went through the list, here's some examples of the above:<br /> ::Blizzard's requirements are &quot;5 or 10 PP&quot;, because otherwise Thunder wouldn't qualify. Also, Focus Blast doesn't qualify because it doesn't cause a status ailment<br /> ::Zap Cannon is listed as a variation of Dynamic Punch, but it has different power.<br /> ::Seed Flare is listed as a variation of Fire Blast, but it doesn't cause a status ailment.<br /> ::Surf is listed as a variation of Flamethrower but doesn't cause a status, and it says so right on the page<br /> ::Giga Drain's requirements again, &quot;5 or 10 PP&quot;.<br /> :I'm just saying, why are exceptions made for some moves to count them as variations, and not others? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:47, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::PP is the only exception we make for differences. Zap Cannon and DynamicPunch are different than Leaf Blade. Did you even bother READING what I said about Leaf Blade other than that it doesn't count? It's in a category that's much more specific. It's with [[Template:Leaf Blade|Attack Order]]. Seed Flare and Fire Blast have the same power and accuracy, and both can have a secondary effect. As for Surf, I've always wondered that. I'll take that out of the template and this page. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 21:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::Yes I did read it, and I asked why Leaf Blade counts for Attack Order over Slash, when at times it has fulfilled the requirements to be a variation of both. And in that case, I'll assume Focus Blast gets the same exception as Seed Flare does. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 21:20, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::Moves can't be in more than one category, which is why Leaf Blade is with Attack Order, since they match exactly except for type. And you're still missing what I've been saying. If they have different accuracies, they don't match. Focus Blast has 70%, and Seed Flare has 85%. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 21:29, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I am paying attention to what you're saying. Now pay attention to what I'm saying. Focus Blast does not cause a status ailment as the other variations do, and Seed Flare doesn't either. Zap Cannon and Focus Blast have different powers. So why are they listed? And again, ''Leaf Blade can count as a variation of both Slash and Attack Order'', so why do we count one over the other? Why are some exceptions made and not others? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 21:34, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :No, I don't think you are. Focus Blast has a ''secondary effect'' like the others do, it's not limited to status or stat changes. As for Zap Cannon and Focus Blast, I just realized that yeah, it shouldn't be there. I'll change that too. If we put Leaf Blade in the Slash variations, then there wouldn't be one for Attack Order. And yeah, Leaf Blade ''used'' to be in both categories. It's not anymore. It has more power than Slash. The only ones that I can find that have different powers as of Gen IV are the Petal Dance variations. I'll see what I can do about that too. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 21:57, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::That would be nice. I'm not trying to cause trouble or anything, and I'm sorry for arguing with you. I'm just noticing a double-standard in regards to the variations of some moves and want them sorted out one way or the other. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 22:00, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::I don't mind. Arguments need to be more than just &quot;I'm right, you're wrong!&quot; and stupid things like that, and thankfully this wasn't one of those times. This article has also had some issues with getting things like that straight, so glad you said something or it would have stayed that way. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 22:04, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::No problem. I admit I'm biased though, when I think of move variations I'm not as tight in my requirements as this page. I still feel like Hydro Pump ought to be a variation of something, but it doesn't fit any profiles here. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 22:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Lock-On and Mind Reader ==<br /> <br /> Why aren't they here? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:43, 2 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Swapping moves ==<br /> <br /> Heart Swap (maybe), Power Swap, and Guard Swap. All Psychic-type, 10 PP, Status. What do you think? [[User:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B69E00&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;'''''ht'''''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E1E1E1&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;''14''&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 00:52, 5 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Support. Don't forget {{m|Skill Swap}}! [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 02:06, 5 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::That's ability though... also, what you did is a redirect. Learn... [[User:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B69E00&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;'''''ht'''''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E1E1E1&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;''14''&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 02:20, 5 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Still a Psychic-type, 10 PP, Status. As for redirect, so? It's a talk page. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 02:25, 5 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::Argh... no... may as well say EVERY single status move. It doesn't matter typing as long as it's related. As for redirect, this still applies... [[User:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B69E00&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;'''''ht'''''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E1E1E1&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;''14''&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 02:29, 5 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::No, not &quot;every&quot; status move. I see four moves with &quot;Swap&quot; in their names all of which involve switching some sort of statistic with the opponent. What's the problem? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:03, 5 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Never mind. We'll keep it as that then. [[User:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B69E00&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;'''''ht'''''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E1E1E1&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;''14''&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 03:08, 5 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> So we're adding them? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:16, 5 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Screech Variations ==<br /> <br /> Couldn't Cotton Spore be a Screech Variation? It's not a sound move, but it does lower one target's speed by two levels and has the same PP and Accuracy. [[User:Mr. Charlie|&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;'''Mr. Charlie'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000FF&quot;&gt;''TalkToMe''&lt;/font&gt;]])&lt;/small&gt; 04:26, 18 November 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == {{m|Karate Chop}} and {{m|Poison Tail}} ==<br /> 25 PP, 50 power, 100 Accuracy, high critical-hit ratios. What do you think? Also, would this need a new template to stick on the bottom of the move pages? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 05:46, 6 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Creating and adding. Any other moves that could go on this template? '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 13:34, 6 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::I don't think so, I looked at the other Critical Hit moves, none fit the definition. {{m|Air Cutter}} is close but its not exact. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 15:05, 6 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::Alright. Just wanted to make sure nothing needed to be added. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 21:16, 6 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Counter Moves ==<br /> <br /> Hey, i'm a fan of the counter moves and i've noticed something, why isn't Metal Burst counted as a variation? I've used Mirror Coat and Counter with Glaceon and Hitmonchan respectively and Metal Burst does the effects of '''both''' Mirror Coat and Counter. [[User:Geomexis|Geomexis]] 12:51, 16 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Because they aren't very close. If the effect has something different (such as Metal Burst has both, while Mirror Coat and Counter only have one), it isn't a variation. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 13:00, 16 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Counter specifically only repays physical damage double what was taken, and Mirror Coat specifically only repays special damage double what was taken. Metal Burst repays 1.5 damage, or what was taken plus half of that amount. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 19:02, 16 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Kisses ==<br /> <br /> {{m|Lovely Kiss}} and {{m|Sweet Kiss}} <br /> <br /> Same accuracy, same PP. First cause sleep, second - confusion. Aren't move variations? --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 15:08, 30 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Tackle and Peck together? ==<br /> <br /> {{m|Tackle}} and {{m|Peck}}<br /> <br /> The two moves are in a grouping together, but I believe they should not be. They share the Base Power of 35, but while Tackle is 95% accurate, and it mistakenly says Peck to be, Peck is 100% accurate. -- [[User:Mattman324]] 22:58:00, 23 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Peck and Tackle aren't variations. Especially in generation V, where Tackle received a BP of 50. Myself, I would put Peck with Vine Whip, because they both have 35 BP, 100% accuracy and no special effect. Their PP, however, differs significantly, but does that really matter? (see below) --[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 15:47, 14 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Signal Beam ==<br /> <br /> I know it seems weird, but {{m|Signal Beam}} is kinda of a variation of the elemental punches... 75 power, 100 acc, 15 PP and 10% of causing status. It breaks the &quot;tradition&quot;, so to speak, but it fits more than many of the other variations here. [[User:Mr. Charlie|&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;'''Mr. Charlie'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000FF&quot;&gt;''TalkToMe''&lt;/font&gt;]])&lt;/small&gt; 23:38, 4 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==This page needs COLOR!==<br /> Seriously, it looks really dull, which is especially bad seeing as it's pretty much all tables. One of the coding wizards here should try to make a template that incorporates colors for the type of each variation and whether they are physical, special, or a status move. For status moves, color them differently based on which stat they change or status effect they inflict—whatever it takes to make this dull-looking article into an attractive resource. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&lt;sup&gt;P&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;K&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;M&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;N&lt;/sub&gt;]] 16:46, 1 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I was just thinking of that myself, then I thought something like this would be perfect. But, you know, with colors for generations and stuff. I'm not a coding guy, I just throw the ideas. I don't mind working on the entire page, if needed, but I really don't know how. [[User:Mr. Charlie|&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;'''Mr. Charlie'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000FF&quot;&gt;''TalkToMe''&lt;/font&gt;]])&lt;/small&gt; 12:00, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #ddf; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #ccf;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> |<br /> {| border=1 width=&quot;100%&quot; align=&quot;center&quot; class=&quot;sortable&quot; style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;&quot;<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #ddf;&quot;<br /> ! {{color2|000000|Move}}<br /> ! {{color2|000000|Elemental types|Type}}<br /> ! {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}<br /> ! {{color2|000000|Generation|Gen}}<br /> {{tutormv|U-turn|Bug|cat=Physical|IV}}<br /> {{tutormv|Volt Change|Electric|cat=Special|V}}<br /> |}<br /> |}<br /> That looks good. You can probably lose the class=&quot;sortable&quot; since the tables are all small. And make sure you use the region colors for the generation. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 10:04, 8 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah... The &quot;how&quot; with the generation/region colors is my issue here. Could you, or anyone, show me how to do it? Really not my area of expertise. [[User:Mr. Charlie|&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;'''Mr. Charlie'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000FF&quot;&gt;''TalkToMe''&lt;/font&gt;]])&lt;/small&gt; 21:58, 10 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::How's this &lt;small&gt;Edit: link removed&lt;/small&gt; for a quick mock-up? &lt;span class=&quot;sc&quot;&gt;[[User:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2D4B98;&quot;&gt;Werdnae&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009000;&quot;&gt;(talk)&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 04:40, 12 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::I likey. Let's use it. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&lt;sup&gt;P&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;K&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;M&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;N&lt;/sub&gt;]] 11:20, 12 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::I like the idea, but don't forget that it will take longer to load this page.--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 15:36, 14 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == PP ==<br /> <br /> In the article it says that moves need to have the same PP to be variations, but throughout the article it lists moves of differing PP as variations. Should they be removed? [[User:Pikiwyn|&lt;font color=&quot;#d0000d&quot; face=&quot;boopee&quot;&gt;'''''Pikiwyn'''''&lt;/font&gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&lt;tt&gt;&lt;sup&gt;'''''&lt;font color=&quot;black&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/font&gt;'''''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/tt&gt;]] 17:46, 11 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I would think so. You can't have the article contradict itself, can you? &lt;code&gt;;)&lt;/code&gt; [[User:The Exterminator|The Exterminator]] 17:53, 11 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I agree, for my edit and talk page reasons. It's [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig A]]! [[User talk:Turtwig A|My talk]] or [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|wiki edits]] 00:52, 12 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::An article indeed shouldn't contradict itself. That's why the definition itself needs to be altered. --[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 16:27, 14 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Definition ==<br /> <br /> The definition isn't specific enough. &quot;Move variations are moves that are identical to each other in terms of damage, PP, and accuracy, but have different elemental types, damage categories, or secondary effects.&quot; The definition works for damaging moves but according to it almost all status moves that have the same PP are variations of each other. So I'm thinking maybe the article needs a different definition for status moves? [[User:Pikiwyn|&lt;font color=&quot;#d0000d&quot; face=&quot;boopee&quot;&gt;'''''Pikiwyn'''''&lt;/font&gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&lt;tt&gt;&lt;sup&gt;'''''&lt;font color=&quot;black&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/font&gt;'''''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/tt&gt;]] 17:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :How about something like, Status move variations are moves that raise or decrease the same number of stats by the same number of levels. It makes more sense because that way moves like Iron Defense will be a variant of Acid Armor, instead of the current description which makes Baton Pass a variant of Acid Armor. [[User:Pikiwyn|&lt;font color=&quot;#d0000d&quot; face=&quot;boopee&quot;&gt;'''''Pikiwyn'''''&lt;/font&gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&lt;tt&gt;&lt;sup&gt;'''''&lt;font color=&quot;black&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/font&gt;'''''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/tt&gt;]] 13:37, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::This is what the definition should be: &quot;Move varations are moves that are identical in terms of dammage and accuracy, and have similar secondary effects.&quot; --[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 16:33, 14 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thrash, Petal Dance, and Outrage ==<br /> <br /> Here's my question. Thrash and Petal Dance are grouped together, but Outrage is not included only because is has 15 PP instead of 10. This difference seems minor to me, and so I think Outrage should be insluded in this group, with a note on it. If this doesn't work, then it doesn't work, but I know for a fact that most people focos on the actual move and its effects, not the PP it has. There are even people in this talk (although from 2 years ago lol) that group them together, and I know that most people think they are the same move with different types, especially now that they have the same power in Gen V. --[[User:Jdthebud|Jdthebud]] 23:11, 8 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I know that we don't want the article to contradict itself in this regard, but I think that these three moves are so similar that this could be the exception to the rule. --[[User:Jdthebud|Jdthebud]] 23:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Outrage should be included. Reason: see below.--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 15:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == PP shouldn't be taken into account ==<br /> <br /> Taking the PP into account makes the list messier and more incomplete. They are also not the most important aspect anyway ingame: it doesn't really matter if a move has 35 PP or 40 PP. Seperating Night Slash from Slash, for example, causes an unnecesary amount of slots.--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 15:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I agree 100%. PP is such a minor detail, it shouldn't even matter. The important thing is base power, similar or identical side effects, and accuracy. Any move that only serves to boost a stat by two stages is a variation of Acid Armor. Well, I'm not entirely sure on Body Purge, given its other effect of halving the user's weight, but still. My point is, PP shouldn't be taken into account. &lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' &lt;/small&gt; 16:35, 14 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::I agree too. IMO, the amount of PP is more minor than {{tt|Damage Category|although it shouldn't be included}}.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#BF0B17&quot;&gt;ＤＥＮＮＯＵ&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#1250A6&quot;&gt;ＺＥＮＳＨＩ&lt;/font&gt;]] 16:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::I also agree, it doesn't make sense that something like acid armor isn't a variant of iron defense. [[User:Pikiwyn|&lt;font color=&quot;#d0000d&quot; face=&quot;boopee&quot;&gt;'''''Pikiwyn'''''&lt;/font&gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&lt;tt&gt;&lt;sup&gt;'''''&lt;font color=&quot;black&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/font&gt;'''''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/tt&gt;]] 17:32, 14 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::OK, so if the majority think that PP shouldn't count, we can put it back how it was. I changed it because it seemed that people wanted PP to count. I think it should be considered at least under some circumstances. I will stop changing the templates for move variations until the issue is resolved. <br /> ::::Also, it did not create an excessive amount of categories—several were deleted and several were made, balancing out. And PP is much more influential the damage categories. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 08:12, 15 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::Ok, it's maybe better to wait until there aren't any issues about that anymore. You can always watch the version regardless of PP (where I was responsible for) at this URL: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Move_variations&amp;oldid=1253819--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 19:38, 15 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::After discussing it with a couple of other admins, we decided that the PP does not have to be the same, but it should be similar. i.e. it should differ by five or less. More than that is an indication that the moves aren't especially similar. &lt;span class=&quot;sc&quot;&gt;[[User:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2D4B98;&quot;&gt;Werdnae&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009000;&quot;&gt;(talk)&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 20:38, 5 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Different catagories==<br /> <br /> I have seperated the status moves from the other moves. The sharply-stat raising moves (besides those of 15PP) are now next to each other.--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 16:56, 16 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Haze &amp; Mist ==<br /> <br /> Can someone add Haze &amp; Mist to the list (they are counterparts)?[[User:Vuvuzela2010|Vuvuzela2010]] 08:32, 23 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Shadow Ball/Crunch as variations of Waterfall ==<br /> <br /> I added them to variations of waterfall and changed the definition of waterfall so that they both fit. But since all previous variations caused flinching, and the two I added lower defense /sp. def should they be considered two different moveset variations? Also, the templates under shadow ball and crunch I left as they are because I have no idea how to do it, or if even they are in fact variations of waterfall. Thanks...<br /> <br /> == Extreme Speed and Sucker Punch ==<br /> {{m|Extremespeed}} now has +2 priority instead of +1. So, isn't it not a variation of {{m|Sucker Punch}} anymore? Also Sucker Punch work in different way, so this moves seems even less likely to be variations. --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 09:39, 4 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Elemental Surfs? ==<br /> <br /> Discharge is like surf, affecting all opponents. Also a poison move.<br /> <br /> Also Poison Fang should be with the fangs.[[User:Tesseract|Tesseract]] 08:53, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Discharge does not have the same base power as Surf. Therefore, not a variant. Poison Fang also does not have the same base power as the other fangs. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#33CC66;&quot;&gt;'''ケンジ'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6600CC;&quot;&gt;'''の'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF00CC;&quot;&gt;'''ガール'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 08:58, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Order of Oath Moves Doesn't Matter ==<br /> <br /> Hasn't it been confirmed that the Oath moves can be used in any order to produce the same effect? Each individual page should be updated accordingly. (I figured I'd say this here instead of repeating myself on each individual page. This page (Move Variations) seems correct, but the individual pages are not.) [[User:Grei|Grei]] 18:01, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ignore base power differences, if the rest of the move is similar? ==<br /> <br /> There may be one or two other examples of this, but the main one I'm thinking about is Zap Cannon in relation to DynamicPunch and Purgatory. Just because the base power of Zap was increased to 120 shouldn't disqualify it from being a variation of the other two moves, because they all have the same, and probably more important and notable properties of 50% accuracy and the guaranteed infliction of a status ailment (type/ability permitting).<br /> <br /> Also, as an aside, why disqualify Surf from being similar to Tbolt, Flamer, Ice Beam and Slime Wave? It's also the Base 95, fully accurate move of it's type... '''[[User:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; face=&quot;Verdana&quot;&gt;TheChrisD&lt;/font&gt;]]''' &lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Rants&lt;/font&gt;]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Edits&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 02:21, 25 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> :{{m|Surf}} hit all opponents in double battles, while {{m|Ice Beam}} can freeze, {{m|Flamethrower}} inflict burn and so on, there is the difference. It's noted that {{m|Zap Cannon}} '''was''' a variation. Is there any other moves, which are similar except for base power really? --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 09:36, 25 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> ::Still though, it does mean that they all have a secondary effect, simply because one of those effects does not actually inflict a status ailment shouldn't be enough to disqualify it from being considered a move variation, when in that case, the real important points to note of those moves are that they are the Base 95 move of their type.<br /> ::While Zap is currently being taken as a ''former'' variation, that's simply because of the change in Base Power - but in the case of their group, the most notable feature of them is their 50% accuracy and the infliction of the status ailment. Just because one of them was upgraded (for some unknown reason) really shouldn't be enough to disqualify it. I'm not sure of any other cases where this could apply - Leaf Blade's base power increase was a different thing, because the other aspects of the group probably weren't as notable since it was just the &quot;high crit rate&quot; factor. '''[[User:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; face=&quot;Verdana&quot;&gt;TheChrisD&lt;/font&gt;]]''' &lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Rants&lt;/font&gt;]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Edits&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:59, 2 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> :::Moves with different base powers and accuracies really aren't variations. PP is less of a concern, as it does not affect how the move functions (except {{m|Trump Card}}, where a variation would require identical PP). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 10:51, 13 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Psycho Shock ==<br /> <br /> Psycho Shock and Sword of Mystery (Keldeo's signature move).<br /> special attack, 100% accurancy, 10 PP ,damage based on user's sp. attack and target's defence, but shock has 80 base power and sword has 85. --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:42, 24 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> :If you're going to even think of these as variations, why not Psycho Break? [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] 18:48, 24 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> ::Right, i forgot that one, thanks --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:53, 24 February 2011 (UTC)</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Move_variations/Archive_1&diff=1369921 2011-02-24T18:42:20Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* Psycho Shock */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>== Template? ==<br /> <br /> This page was an excellent idea, but I wonder if there's a way to indicate in each move's article when it belongs to one of these &quot;archetypes&quot;. --[[User:Johans|Johans Nidorino]] 21:10, 19 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I suggested it but it was forgotten later on; and unfortunately, I don't know how to make templates. -([[User:Llxwarbirdxll|Llxwarbirdxll]] 02:35, 29 May 2007 (UTC))<br /> :Template namespace. I'll whip one up. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 02:53, 29 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Maybe this is not the right place to suggest, but take a look at the template (Flamethrower as an example):<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; class=&quot;toccolours&quot; cellspacing=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;border: 3px solid #88a; border-radius:20px; -moz-border-radius:20px;&quot; <br /> |-<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background: #ccf; border: border-radius:20px; -moz-border-radius:20px; padding: 2px 15px;&quot; | [[Move variations|Variations]] of the move {{m|Flamethrower}}<br /> |- style=&quot;font-size:90%;&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | {{ic|Special}}<br /> | {{mcolor|Flamethrower|{{fire color}}}} | {{mcolor|Ice Beam|{{ice color dark}}}} | {{mcolor|Slime Wave|{{poison color dark}}}} | {{mcolor|Thunderbolt|{{electric color dark}}}}<br /> |}<br /> &lt;noinclude&gt;[[Category:Move navigation templates]]&lt;/noinclude&gt;<br /> ::Flamethrower mentioned twice, while there is no actual link to ''Variations of Flamethrower''. I believe it will be better this way:<br /> <br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; class=&quot;toccolours&quot; cellspacing=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;border: 3px solid #88a; border-radius:20px; -moz-border-radius:20px;&quot; <br /> |-<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background: #ccf; border: border-radius:20px; -moz-border-radius:20px; padding: 2px 15px;&quot; | [[Move_variations#Variations_of_Flamethrower|Variations of the move Flamethrower]]:<br /> |- style=&quot;font-size:90%;&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | {{ic|Special}}<br /> | {{mcolor|Flamethrower|{{fire color}}}} | {{mcolor|Ice Beam|{{ice color dark}}}} | {{mcolor|Slime Wave|{{poison color dark}}}} | {{mcolor|Thunderbolt|{{electric color dark}}}}<br /> |}<br /> &lt;noinclude&gt;[[Category:Move navigation templates]]&lt;/noinclude&gt;<br /> ::--[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 11:09, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::I agree. It does make more sense that way. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:12, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Variation ==<br /> <br /> There neeeds to be a Move Variation for the Following moves:<br /> * {{m|Psybeam}}<br /> * {{m|Bubblebeam}}<br /> * {{m|Aurora Beam}}<br /> * {{m|Sludge}}<br /> * {{m|Spark}}<br /> I have checked them all out and they each have:<br /> * Power: 65<br /> * Accuracy: 100%<br /> * PP: 20 <br /> P.S. I don't know how to do this myself so really I'm asking for somebody to do this for me!<br /> [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 16:53, 13 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Actually, I'm not sure if this should be counted as they each have a different added effect, either a [[status ailment]] or a [[stat]] change. Somebody gie me their:view...[[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 20:32, 16 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Maybe keep the status-changing ones together, and keep the stat-changing ones together, but keep them separate. That means {{m|Psybeam}}, {{m|Sludge}}, and {{m|Spark}} go together, and {{m|BubbleBeam}} and {{m|Aurora Beam}} go together.<br /> :And don't forget to use the {{template|m}} template for moves. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 00:22, 17 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> By the way, I think you've got the wrong idea. I'm not sure on how to create the move variation. I only realised they were similar... [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 15:34, 18 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == &quot;Or&quot; ==<br /> <br /> Is &quot;10 or 15&quot; valid [[Move variations#Variations of Shadow Ball|here]]? I'd say the use of every possible move variation no matter the amount of PPs it has would require a redefinition. BTW, {{m|Ice Beam}} and {{m|Thunder}} don't belong in the tables they've been introduced in if following the original criterion. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 05:04, 22 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Sorry, I put those there. I'll have them removed. [[User:Llxwarbirdxll|Llxwarbirdxll]] 08:20, 28 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :LOL, now somebody else did the same with variations of Slash, Waterfall, and Shadow Ball :P --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:08, 7 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> People are no longer respecting the &quot;PPs&quot; part of the definition. With &quot;Variations of Flamethrower&quot; the article mentions neither 15 nor 10 now. If this is going to continue, maybe Bulbapedia's definition on &quot;move variations&quot; should no longer include PPs, which seems to be the least important of the three columns. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 18:35, 5 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Seismic Toss and Night Shade? ==<br /> <br /> Those belong on the list, right?<br /> [[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 20:10, 15 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Doesn't {{m|Night Shade}} do somewhere from 1 to 1.5x the level? I know {{m|Seismic Toss}} does the level. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 23:07, 15 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::No, Psywave does from 0.5 to 1.5x the level. But Night Shade always does damage equal to the level. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Still, they don't have the same amout of default total PPs. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 01:53, 16 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::They're stretching it nowadays though. Hmm...{{m|Zap Cannon}} and {{m|Dynamicpunch}}... [[User:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#D5AA00&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;'''''ht'''''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;''14''&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 22:11, 19 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> Well, I'm sure {{m|Stone Edge}} and {{m|Cross Chop}} are variations. [[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 07:00, 24 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Definitely ^_^ --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:46, 24 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Stub?==<br /> Is it Still a stub?--[[User:Torchic-ken|Torchic-ken]] 2:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah, there's a few missing bits. [[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 00:10, 6 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Mean Look/Block/Spider Web? ==<br /> <br /> I noticed there isn't a section for these three moves, and while Block and Mean Look fit a &quot;5 PP, Prevents foe from escaping&quot; description, Spider Web only has one thing setting them apart and that's the PP issue. Should I add it anyway? [[User:TinaTheKirlia|TinaTheKirlia]] 01:47, 7 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Add only Mean Look and Block. That's what has been done in these cases to agree with the current definition of &quot;move archetypes&quot;. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 08:01, 7 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Counter and Mirror Coat? ==<br /> <br /> I'm really surprised no one did this - they both have 10PP, varying power, 100% accuracy and they both go last and counter the foe's attack at two times the power. I was trying to find a good way to summarize it though - how's this? &quot;Goes last and counters the move used by the foe at twice the power&quot;. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;Tina&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;The&lt;/span&gt;]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;Kirlia&lt;/span&gt;]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 21:23, 6 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> :That works. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;TTE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 23:41, 6 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Softboiled and Milk Drink ==<br /> <br /> Even though they're listed under variations of Recover.. they both can do something Recover can not -- heal other Pokémon's HP outside of battle. I think this deserves a mention. :P [[User:Tina|Tina]]&lt;sup&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 18:58, 29 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Contests? ==<br /> <br /> I think it would be incredibly useful to have a version of this page for contests, since many of the moves do the exact same things.<br /> Thoughts...? [[User:Maki|Maki]] 13:47, 19 March 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I agree. However it'd have to be set up differently. It'd be like... effect, cute moves, beauty moves, smart moves, tough moves, cool moves. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 20:49, 21 March 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Blizzard ==<br /> <br /> Are Magma Storm and Focus Blast ''really'' variations of Blizzard? Neither inflict a status ailment and Magma Storm sounds more like a multi-turn move. The only similarities seem to be 120 power<br /> <br /> Also, I think Thunder should be added as a variation. It has 10 PP, not 5, but it causes a status ailment, has 120 power and 70 accuracy. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:28, 21 March 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Thunder and Blizzard also have their accuracy at 100% when used during a specific weather condition. Magma Storm seems most like Outrage, though that goes 2-3 turns, and Focus Blast is just... its own thing. Not ''every'' move has a counterpart, that's what people need to remember. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 20:38, 21 March 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::That's what I mean, a lot of the moves I mentioned, as well as Hydro Pump, Seed Flare and Fire Blast are all ''similar'', but variations of each other? I'd say they're similar moves, but not direct variations. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:40, 21 March 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::Yes. Variations: Do the same thing. Similarity: have the same PP, power, or accuracy but don't do the same thing. Outrage and Thrash are variations, despite Outrage now being 120 power. Focus Blast and Blizzard are not because all they share is accuracy and power. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 21:21, 21 March 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::::So, should we move some of the moves I mentioned around? That's what I've been suggesting. I think Magma Storm should be grouped with Outrage and Thrash, and Blizzard, Thunder and Gunk Shot should be in a group. Maybe Seed Flare and Focus Blast too, their effects are identical except for accuracy. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 00:39, 22 March 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Order==<br /> Why aren't they in alphabetical order? {{u|MathijsP}}<br /> :Beats me. Last time I organized them I put them in order by damage. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:59, 20 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Dragon Claw, X-Scissor, Seed Bomb==<br /> <br /> Aren't these all variations? They all do 80 damage, have 15 PP, and no added effect. Can I add them? --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 18:25, 12 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> :You forget to mention the accuracy, but it happens that it's the same! So yeah, they're move variations. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 18:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> Great. I guess I'll add them now. --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 18:25, 12 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Actually, I don't think I know how to do the template. Can someone else do that? --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 18:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Nevermind, I got them. :) --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 21:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Ice Beam?==<br /> <br /> Ice Beam has only 10 PP, yet it's claimed to be a variation of Flamethrower and Thunderbolt, which have 15 PP. Can I remove that? --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 21:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Ice Beam is the most useful of all three, but is still the same. Same power, accuracy and rate to inflict a status problem. Part of Ice Beam may be the fact frozen Pokémon are helpless. [[User:Gywall|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF8800&quot;&gt;'''Gyw&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFAE00&quot;&gt;all'''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 21:15, 12 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::Ice Beam is one of the more visible move variations in normal gameplay. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|&lt;/sup&gt; 21:21, 12 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> Ah. I see. OK. --[[User:Dark Sage|Dark Sage]] 00:46, 13 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Air Slash? ==<br /> <br /> I wonder if, shouldnt Air Slash be in the &quot;variations of Slash&quot; since it IS a Slash move after all? o: what do you people think? I havn't really looked up the PP, accuracy and power, but its very similar to Night Slash and Slash. :c--[[User:Angela-Samshi|Angela-Samshi]] 17:50, 23 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Slash and Night Slash have high critical-hit ratios, Air Slash may cause the opponent to flinch. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|&lt;font color=&quot;midnightblue&quot; face=&quot;comic sans ms&quot;&gt;'''$aturn'''&lt;/font&gt;]][[User:SaturnYoshi|&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; face=&quot;comic sans ms&quot;&gt;'''¥oshi'''&lt;/font&gt;]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|&lt;font color=&quot;maroon&quot;&gt;THE VOICES&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 17:54, 23 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Ahh, ok thanks. --[[User:Angela-Samshi|Angela-Samshi]] 18:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pound &lt;-&gt; Gust? ==<br /> <br /> Gust isn't a variation of Pound, is it? - [[User:FireHazard|Hazardous FIRE!]] 00:08, 5 September 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Yes it is. 35 PP, 40 power, 100% accuracy&amp;ndash;yup, variation. --[[user:Baby G|Baby G]] &lt;small&gt;([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]])&lt;/small&gt; &lt;small&gt;([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]])&lt;/small&gt; 23:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Arm Thrust ==<br /> <br /> I read that the accuracy of Arm Thrust was 100 percent, but it was under the variations of Barrage, saying that its accuracy was 85 percent. Is its accuracy 85 or 100, cuz I don't wanna do an edit with wrong info.---[[User:Hitmonchan90|Hitmonchan90]] 23:07, 23 September 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Bulk Up and Calm Mind?==<br /> <br /> They both have 20 PP, and raise Attack and Defense/Special Attack and Special Defense one stage, respectively. Variants? All signs point to yes. [[User:Master Lucario|Master Lucario]]<br /> :Yep, variations. Added. --[[user:Baby G|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF4500;&quot;&gt;Baby G]]&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;([[user talk:Baby G|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#D1E231;&quot;&gt;talk to me]]&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;/small&gt; &lt;small&gt;([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B87333;&quot;&gt;see my edits]]&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;/small&gt; 21:30, 5 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Reorganised ==<br /> <br /> Since the moves were looking kinda messy, since the order was somewhat random, I went and moved the sections around to order it A-Z. Exceptions being Elemental X and the OHKO moves as they are listed differently. [[User:Gywall|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF8800&quot;&gt;'''Gyw&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFAE00&quot;&gt;all'''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 17:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I believe the order was by Base Power of the attacks. [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 13:29, 23 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sections for both {{m|Tail Glow}} AND {{m|Agility}}? ==<br /> <br /> I've noticed that there are two sections that both share similar attributes, both sections detail moves that have 20 PP but increase a stat two stages, however, One details just Special attack raisers while the other details the other ones.<br /> <br /> Should there be two or should they be put together? [[User:PDL|PDL]] 00:22, 23 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I was thinking the same thing, but then I found out that all the listed variations of Agility (including Agility itself) have ''30'' PP, and that Tail Glow and {{m|Nasty Plot}} have ''20'' PP. --[[user:chocolate|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6D351A;&quot;&gt;Cho&lt;/span&gt;]][[user talk:chocolate|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6D351A;&quot;&gt;col&lt;/span&gt;]][[special:contributions/chocolate|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6D351A;&quot;&gt;ate&lt;/span&gt;]] 00:23, 23 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Agility has 30 PP.Otherwise, I would say yes--[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;Talk&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Contributions&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> <br /> I just noticed that now as well ^^; [[User:PDL|PDL]] 00:35, 23 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Crabhammer ==<br /> <br /> Both Crabhammer and Blaze Kick ''used'' to be signature moves. Should this be noted? --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 21:43, 25 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I don't think it should. &lt;sup&gt;&lt;big&gt;[[user:chocolate|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6D351A;&quot;&gt;Cho&lt;/span&gt;]][[user talk:chocolate|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6D351A;&quot;&gt;col&lt;/span&gt;]][[special:contributions/chocolate|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6D351A;&quot;&gt;ate&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; 21:47, 25 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Lock-On/Mind Reader ==<br /> <br /> How about them? [[User:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#D5AA00&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;''ht''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;''14''&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:19, 18 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I remember them having the exactly same effect, so if my memory serves me right, they could be added. &lt;span style=&quot;color: #3FFF00; font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;UltimateSephiroth&lt;/span&gt; &lt;sup&gt;(&lt;span style=&quot;color: #003FFF&quot;&gt;[[User:UltimateSephiroth|user]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|contrib]]&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;/sup&gt; 23:29, 18 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::How about {{m|Whirlwind}} and {{m|Roar}}? [[User:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#D5AA00&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;''ht''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;''14''&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 04:05, 14 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == {{m|Spikes}} / {{m|Toxic Spikes}} ==<br /> <br /> Should these be parterned up?--[[User:RexRacer|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#E7CE6B&quot;&gt;Rex&lt;/font&gt;]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|&lt;font color=&quot;#42528C&quot;&gt;Racer&lt;/font&gt;''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#FF5A00&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;''-talk''&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/font&gt;''']] 16:26, 23 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Don't forget about {{m|Stealth Rock}}, too. &lt;sup&gt;[[user:chocolate|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6D351A;&quot;&gt;Cho&lt;/span&gt;]][[user talk:chocolate|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6D351A;&quot;&gt;col&lt;/span&gt;]][[special:contributions/chocolate|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6D351A;&quot;&gt;ate&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 16:28, 23 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == This page needs work ==<br /> <br /> First of all, should PP be accounted for or not? Right now, some do and some don't. I don't really care which one we go with, so long as it's consistent.<br /> <br /> Second, effects are not being grouped together consistently either. Example: Spark has a 30% chance of inducing Paralyze. Psybeam has a 10% chance of inducing Confusion. 30 != 10. Another example: Flamethrower has a 10% chance of inducing Burn. Surf has 0% chance of inducing anything at all, and has a different target range on top of that. Also, the diffence between &quot;Acid Armor variations&quot; and &quot;Amnesia variations&quot;? Ignoring the PP difference (the Acid Armor variations already do this anyway), who really cares if they raise Special stats or not? You could just as easily group them by Defense or Attack stats. On the other hand, I say just go with &quot;raises a stat by two stages&quot; and leave it at that.<br /> <br /> Third, I do not think &quot;non-[http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/volatile volatile]&quot; means what you think it means. Why not just put &quot;non-damaging effect&quot; or something else a bit more clear and grammatically correct? [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I never thought PP should be accounted for. A lot of the moves might have the same PP but if all the important other stuff is the same, the moves are pretty much variations! [[User:Toastypk|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#BB0000&quot;&gt;'''''~Toastypk'''''&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#770077&quot;&gt;'''&lt;sup&gt;Loom.&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;''']] 05:06, 12 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thief and Covet will never be counted as variations if taking PP into account. --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 15:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :And that's the sad thing, they're pretty much the same kind of item-stealing damaging move. PP is a moot point! [[User:Toastypk|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#BB0000&quot;&gt;'''''~Toastypk'''''&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#770077&quot;&gt;'''&lt;sup&gt;Loom.&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;''']] 00:22, 13 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::If there's only one thing different about a move variation, it can still be considered a variation. For example, {{m|Surf}} is one of the {{m|Flamethrower}} variations, because it has the same power, PP, and accuracy. The only thing different is the effect. [[User:Chocolate|&lt;font color=&quot;6D351A&quot;&gt;Chocolate&lt;/font&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;([[User talk:Chocolate|&lt;font color=&quot;6D351A&quot;&gt;Chat with Me&lt;/font&gt;]])&lt;/small&gt; 00:44, 13 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Actually, you could argue that Surf is a variation of Earthquake, since they have the same range and the same effect (none). Surf has more PP and less power, but it also has two things different from Flamethrower: range and effect. See? You can't just go &quot;Oh they're close ENOUGH&quot;, you have to pick your criteria and stick with it. Either effect counts or it doesn't count. Either range counts or it doesn't count. Either PP counts or it doesn't count. If you start flubbing things, that's only going to make things more complicated down the line. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 03:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Earthquake has the anti-{{m|Dig}} effect. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 02:55, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::Good point, that's another thing they have in common, since Surf can hit during Dive too. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 03:15, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::I don't think there needs to be a set of rigid rules for move variations. By definition, variation implies differing conditions, character, and degree. That said, I do think that a move variations should have identical or ''very'' similar effects. PP and base power are relatively unimportant to me, when two moves have unique identical effects. Consider Bind, Fire Spin, and Whirlpool: they are all multi-turn attacks that trap their foe. They work exactly the same, and have relatively unique effects (only a handful of moves work like this). However, Bulbapedia currently only considers Fire Spin and Whirlpool as &quot;variations&quot;.&amp;nbsp;&amp;mdash;&amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;sub&gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&lt;/sub&gt; 03:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::I think that trapping should have its own page. It's not as if the creators sat around and thought, &quot;Hey, wouldn't it be cool to have a clone of this move for that element?&quot; I think the process was more like, &quot;Hey, why not have this as a mechanic?&quot; --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 05:12, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::Minor problem with that though. Ember, Flamethrower and Fire Blast (and probably others but those are the big ones) all have a 10% chance of causing burn. Moreover, they're all Fire attacks. If we go solely by effect, then that makes them variations of each other. So then we have moves that are multiple variations in one. Is that really ok? I mean, I can see it going either way...<br /> <br /> :::::One possibility is to split it into two things, where there are moves that are strictly exact copies of each other minus type and specific effect (not % chance of effect though, that has to say the same), and then other moves that just do the same thing but are not exact copies. Like, if I want to look for moves that cause Burn, there could be a category that I could go to and look there, and likewise for moves that cause trapping, or moves that hit everyone on the field. Does that sound reasonable? [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 01:14, 15 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::I'm not talking about secondary effects like 10% of burn or confusion. I agree that there should be a [[list of moves that burn]] (not a category, unfortunately), but I don't think they should be considered variations. In my mind, examples of move variations are moves that have some unique game mechanic, such as {{m|Wrap|multi-turn}} {{m|Magma Storm|trapping}} {{m|Sand Tomb|moves}}, {{m|Fly|moves with}} {{m|Dig|an initial}} {{m|Shadow Force|invulnerable}} {{m|Dive|turn}}, {{m|Block|moves that}} {{m|Spider Web|prevent}} {{m|Mean Look|escape}}, or {{m|Protect|moves that can negate}} {{m|Detect|all negative effects}}&amp;mdash;Moves that work so similarly that there are, for example, abilities that negate the set of them or moves that counter-act a set of them. These should be considered move variations.&amp;nbsp;&amp;mdash;&amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;sub&gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&lt;/sub&gt; 01:33, 15 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Starting tabs over.<br /> <br /> I've always considered anything that does not cause damage on an otherwise damaging move to be a secondary effect so I think we are going to differ in thought there, unfortunately. Example: Razor Wind requires charging, has a high crit rate and deals damage, so the charging and high crit rate are both secondary effects. Screech causes only Defense down, so Defense down is the primary effect.<br /> <br /> Taking each thing in turn, I don't think that just because Wrap and Magma Storm both cause multi-turn trapping is enough for them to be considered variations. They ought to have a page specifying this, but this does not make them variations, in the same way as Ember and Flamethrower. Ditto with with the semi-invulnerable moves. They are different enough (note which moves can hit which during the invulnerable turn, not to mention Power) to warrant an obviously acknowledged ''similarity'' but not actual variations.<br /> <br /> As for your last two examples, those moves DO essentially do the exact same thing in every way, with the exception of PP, so I think, if we decide to exclude PP from the criteria (which I am fairly convinced we ought to do by now), then yes, I would consider those move variations.<br /> <br /> (Somewhat off-topic, why not a category instead of a page? Then there would be links from the moves pages themselves, so they can actually be found... The Pokédex has tons of categories, I've noticed...) [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 02:14, 15 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Also, {{m|Mud-Slap}} and {{m|Sand-Attack}} are both Ground moves with a 100% chance of lowering Accuracy, and this can be prevented by abilities such as {{a|Keen Eye}}, but they're still clearly not variations of each other, right? (Asking because I consider Wrap and Bind and the like to be moves with 100% chance of causing trapping) [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 02:24, 15 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Why aren't Wrap and Magma Storm variations? They have the same primary effects (inflict damage over several turns at the end of each turn) and secondary effects (trap target during those turns). (Though there's no official source ordering those as primary and secondary; they could just as easily be reversed.) I realize that Ember and Flamethrower also have the same primary and secondary effects, but another issue I pointed out above is ''unique game-mechanics''. There are a hundred moves that have the same primary effect as Ember and Flamethrower (inflict damage) and very similar secondary effects (10% of a major status ailment). However, there are only 5 moves that work like Wrap and Magma Storm. I think that makes them remarkable enough to be noted as move variations.<br /> ::Since the definition of variation means details can vary. That means we could consider numerous damaging moves to be variations of each other. But I don't think it's notable if they don't have something that sets them apart from other moves.<br /> ::(As for the category thing, I don't know for sure, but the tons of categories issue might be the reason they didn't want even more categories for each detail.)&amp;nbsp;&amp;mdash;&amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;sub&gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&lt;/sub&gt; 02:39, 15 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::It seems to me like what you want would be better expressed in a different page, like &quot;Moves that cause the same unique effects&quot; ...Okay, &quot;same unique&quot; is a bit oxymoronic, but you know what I mean. ^^;<br /> <br /> :::The reason I chose Mud-Slap and Sand-Attack as examples is because they ARE unique, in that Accuracy is not a standard stat, and there are only 5 moves that lower accuracy (and none that raise it, I think): Mud-Slap, Sand-Attack, {{m|Flash}}, {{m|Mirror Shot}}, and {{m|Muddy Water}}, but these are clearly not similar in any other way but that. (Asides from Flash and Sand-Attack, I would consider those variations of the other, with Gen IV's de-nerfing of Flash.) This page seems to have been created to illustrate which moves have only minor differences, with Power, Accuracy and % effect and PP cited specifically as things that must be the same. No matter which way you cut it, the only thing Wrap and Magma Storm have in common is their secondary multi-turn trapping effect, and I consider multi-turn trapping damage to be a single secondary effect (You are never going to have one of those moves inflict one without the other). Primary effect defaults to damage except for moves that do not ever deal damage. The game even categorizes them as Physical [[Image:PhysicalIC.gif]] and Special [[Image:SpecialIC.gif]], not Status [[Image:StatusIC.gif]]. You can cite their uniqueness, but there are only so many moves that do unique, specific things, like Burn, or charge, or high-crit, but then you'll end up with almost every move out there having at least one if not multiple variations. If you want to get really unique, {{m|Flame Wheel}} and {{m|Sacred Fire}} are the only moves that can thaw out their user. That makes them variations according to your definition, but they have nothing in common according to the definition already defined on this page. I think this all does deserve to be noted somewhere, but I don't think this is the right place, is what I'm trying to say. ._.; [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:06, 15 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I am aware that calling certain moves variations of each other would go against the narrow definition of move variations already defined by this page, but I think it is incorrect. I give up though, so I'll just continue ignoring it.&amp;nbsp;&amp;mdash;&amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;sub&gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&lt;/sub&gt; 04:40, 15 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Protect? Detect? ==<br /> <br /> Aren't they variations of each other? --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 08:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Someone should go down this whole talk page and just do it. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 08:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Phred: They have the same effect, it looks like, but Detect has half of Protect's PP, so no, not according to our definition.<br /> ::Raijinili: What? --[[User:Martonimos|((&lt;font color=&quot;#008000&quot;&gt;Marton&lt;/font&gt;]] [[User talk:Martonimos|&lt;font color=&quot;#50C878&quot;&gt;imos&lt;/font&gt;))]] 08:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Although there are moves that say &quot;10 or 15 pp&quot; or something similar, so maybe... --[[User:Martonimos|((&lt;font color=&quot;#008000&quot;&gt;Marton&lt;/font&gt;]] [[User talk:Martonimos|&lt;font color=&quot;#50C878&quot;&gt;imos&lt;/font&gt;))]] 08:33, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::I think a difference in PP is a poor reason not to consider two moves as variations of each other. They obviously have the same effect.&amp;nbsp;&amp;mdash;&amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;sub&gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&lt;/sub&gt; 08:40, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::To the point where the two moves share the same success rate. --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 23:47, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Rock Slide and Air Slash ==<br /> Both have 75 BP, 30% Chance of Flinch, and 95(?) Accuraccy. I think that makes them variations on the same move.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 16:01, 25 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thief and Covet ==<br /> <br /> The only item-stealing damaging moves, with same power and accuracy, are yet to be covered here. I dropped a line earlier in hopes of the issue being picked up by more people, but it failed, my mistake. So I chose to be more direct in approach and now I ask, if other moves have ignored PP in favor of more relevant traits, shouldn't these two be listed as variations? I think there even used to be a template for both, but it got deleted. --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 16:13, 9 March 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == {{m|Glare}} and {{m|Stun Spore}} ==<br /> <br /> Same effect, PP, accuracy and power (or the lack of it), varies on type only . These are variations, so I'll add them, but I don't know how to put the template on the move pages... {{u|Mr. Charlie}} 22:57, 14 March 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Strength as first in a variation ==<br /> <br /> I've realized that Dragon Claw and the others are exactly like Strength but in type, so i've changed that, and made Strength as the first in the variation. This is my first edit, i hope it's all-right, I don't know if the move wasn't in there because it is a HM.<br /> <br /> --[[User:PokeTech|PokeTech]] 12:48, 3 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Kudos for effort there. But yeah, we don't include HMs so it'll have to go back to how it was. Sorry. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::''we don't include HMs'' Doesn't explain Waterfall, and no, &quot;it wasn't a HM originally&quot; doesn't seem like a good rationale to me. [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 12:09, 15 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Well, I hadn't realized this at the time, but the variations of Waterfall have the flinching effect. And I see what you mean when you say that about not explaining it well. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:08, 15 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Weather Moves ==<br /> <br /> Aren't the weather moves variations of each other? Or at least Rain Dance/Sunny Day and Snadstorm/Hail? I mean, they all change to a weather for five turns. [[User:Mr. Charlie|Mr. ]][[User talk:Mr. Charlie|Charlie]] 18:25, 27 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> :I guess you could consider them variations of each other, but I've never really thought of them like that. I'd wait to add it untill more people agree or disagree. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 18:51, 27 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::They all change weather but their effects are different. Well, indirectly. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 21:40, 28 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::That's the thing... I don't know if it should be added or not... they're like the elemental punches (damage + chance of status problem), because they change the weather condition during the battle and have a side effect... [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:07, 28 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::Go for it. Sunny Day, Rain Dance and Hail are all exactly the same (IIRC) and Sandstorm has 5 more PP. I'm not sure whether that matters, coz you guys had a huge argument about that... &amp;mdash; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000C8&quot;&gt;THE TROM&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] &amp;mdash; 23:26, 28 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::Should I add it as &quot;Variations of *insert weather move*&quot; or as &quot;Weather Conditions/Moves&quot;? I'll add it anyways, but should it need to have the title changed I'll do that. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:04, 29 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::Or should it be, like the original question, Rain Dance/Sunny Day and Sandstorm/Hail? Eh, I'll put it all together for now and it can be changed later.... [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:09, 29 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Powders and Flattering ==<br /> <br /> How come that {{m|PoisonPowder}}, {{m|Sleep Powder}} and {{m|Stun Spore}} aren't move variations? They have the same accuracy, animation, the same Contest appeal and Pokémon learn them around the same time, it kind of makes sense that they are.&lt;br&gt;<br /> Also {{m|Flatter}} and {{m|Swagger}} are variations as they both confuse but Swagger ups attack and Flatter ups Special Attack, I'm not sure how to add them lmao, I thought I should say it here first though ;) --[[User:Ripp145|Ripp145]] 12:23, 26 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Apparently, Flatter only raises Special Attack one stage, while Swagger raises Attack by two stages. Also, both have different accuracy. Too many differences to qualify. --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 02:33, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::The powders aren't considered variations yet?! ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Red&quot;&gt;Cu&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Bronze&quot;&gt;bo&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Green&quot;&gt;ne&lt;/font&gt;]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|&lt;font color=&quot;Black&quot;&gt;King&lt;/font&gt;]] 02:36, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::If we're discussing variations to add, I have a couple suggestions.<br /> :Arm Thrust as a variation of Barrage<br /> :Bind and Wrap as variations of Fire Spin<br /> :Dark Pulse as variation of Zen Headbutt<br /> :Fire Blast and Megahorn as variations of Blizzard<br /> ::With all these variations, they share identical effects, power and PP. The only difference between the suggested moves and the established moves is that accuracy is a tiny bit higher or lower. Also, some of the moves listed as variations don't qualify but are listed anyway. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:02, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Okay, I made a change that in hindsight I'm unsure of. In Gen 3, Leaf Blade fit the requirements to be considered a variation of Slash - 70 power, 15 pp, 100% accuracy, high chance for critical. But in Gen 4 it's power is 90, and it has its own variation now, Attack Order. So....what do we do? IMO, it should be considered variations of both, depending on the Generation. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 04:01, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Yeah, no. The Barrage variations all have the same power and accuracy, Arm Thrust only has the same power. Fire Blast and Megahorn are different than Blizzard for a lot of things: Fire Blast has more accuracy, Megahorn has more accuracy, Megahorn has no secondary effect. Dark Pulse has more accuracy than Zen Headbutt. Bind, Wrap, and Fire Spin all have differnt accuracies. There's more to this page than just &quot;Oh, it looks similar or has similar accuracy/PP/Power/type!&quot; There's reasons that most of these aren't on there. The ones that don't seem like they fit are included because they either were the same, or are now the same. And Leaf Blade doesn't count, because it's already in a category that's more specific. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 20:15, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Why does Leaf Blade not count? It fit all the requirements before it's power was changed, if it doesn't count than neither does Zap Cannon as a variation of Dynamic Punch. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:26, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :And like I said, there's already moves listed as variations that don't fit the requirements to count, or the requirements are flexible like &quot;move does X or Y&quot;. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:28, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I went through the list, here's some examples of the above:<br /> ::Blizzard's requirements are &quot;5 or 10 PP&quot;, because otherwise Thunder wouldn't qualify. Also, Focus Blast doesn't qualify because it doesn't cause a status ailment<br /> ::Zap Cannon is listed as a variation of Dynamic Punch, but it has different power.<br /> ::Seed Flare is listed as a variation of Fire Blast, but it doesn't cause a status ailment.<br /> ::Surf is listed as a variation of Flamethrower but doesn't cause a status, and it says so right on the page<br /> ::Giga Drain's requirements again, &quot;5 or 10 PP&quot;.<br /> :I'm just saying, why are exceptions made for some moves to count them as variations, and not others? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:47, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::PP is the only exception we make for differences. Zap Cannon and DynamicPunch are different than Leaf Blade. Did you even bother READING what I said about Leaf Blade other than that it doesn't count? It's in a category that's much more specific. It's with [[Template:Leaf Blade|Attack Order]]. Seed Flare and Fire Blast have the same power and accuracy, and both can have a secondary effect. As for Surf, I've always wondered that. I'll take that out of the template and this page. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 21:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::Yes I did read it, and I asked why Leaf Blade counts for Attack Order over Slash, when at times it has fulfilled the requirements to be a variation of both. And in that case, I'll assume Focus Blast gets the same exception as Seed Flare does. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 21:20, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::Moves can't be in more than one category, which is why Leaf Blade is with Attack Order, since they match exactly except for type. And you're still missing what I've been saying. If they have different accuracies, they don't match. Focus Blast has 70%, and Seed Flare has 85%. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 21:29, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I am paying attention to what you're saying. Now pay attention to what I'm saying. Focus Blast does not cause a status ailment as the other variations do, and Seed Flare doesn't either. Zap Cannon and Focus Blast have different powers. So why are they listed? And again, ''Leaf Blade can count as a variation of both Slash and Attack Order'', so why do we count one over the other? Why are some exceptions made and not others? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 21:34, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :No, I don't think you are. Focus Blast has a ''secondary effect'' like the others do, it's not limited to status or stat changes. As for Zap Cannon and Focus Blast, I just realized that yeah, it shouldn't be there. I'll change that too. If we put Leaf Blade in the Slash variations, then there wouldn't be one for Attack Order. And yeah, Leaf Blade ''used'' to be in both categories. It's not anymore. It has more power than Slash. The only ones that I can find that have different powers as of Gen IV are the Petal Dance variations. I'll see what I can do about that too. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 21:57, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::That would be nice. I'm not trying to cause trouble or anything, and I'm sorry for arguing with you. I'm just noticing a double-standard in regards to the variations of some moves and want them sorted out one way or the other. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 22:00, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::I don't mind. Arguments need to be more than just &quot;I'm right, you're wrong!&quot; and stupid things like that, and thankfully this wasn't one of those times. This article has also had some issues with getting things like that straight, so glad you said something or it would have stayed that way. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 22:04, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::No problem. I admit I'm biased though, when I think of move variations I'm not as tight in my requirements as this page. I still feel like Hydro Pump ought to be a variation of something, but it doesn't fit any profiles here. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 22:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Lock-On and Mind Reader ==<br /> <br /> Why aren't they here? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:43, 2 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Swapping moves ==<br /> <br /> Heart Swap (maybe), Power Swap, and Guard Swap. All Psychic-type, 10 PP, Status. What do you think? [[User:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B69E00&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;'''''ht'''''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E1E1E1&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;''14''&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 00:52, 5 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Support. Don't forget {{m|Skill Swap}}! [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 02:06, 5 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::That's ability though... also, what you did is a redirect. Learn... [[User:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B69E00&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;'''''ht'''''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E1E1E1&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;''14''&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 02:20, 5 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Still a Psychic-type, 10 PP, Status. As for redirect, so? It's a talk page. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 02:25, 5 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::Argh... no... may as well say EVERY single status move. It doesn't matter typing as long as it's related. As for redirect, this still applies... [[User:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B69E00&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;'''''ht'''''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E1E1E1&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;''14''&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 02:29, 5 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::No, not &quot;every&quot; status move. I see four moves with &quot;Swap&quot; in their names all of which involve switching some sort of statistic with the opponent. What's the problem? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:03, 5 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Never mind. We'll keep it as that then. [[User:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B69E00&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;'''''ht'''''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E1E1E1&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;''14''&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 03:08, 5 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> So we're adding them? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:16, 5 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Screech Variations ==<br /> <br /> Couldn't Cotton Spore be a Screech Variation? It's not a sound move, but it does lower one target's speed by two levels and has the same PP and Accuracy. [[User:Mr. Charlie|&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;'''Mr. Charlie'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000FF&quot;&gt;''TalkToMe''&lt;/font&gt;]])&lt;/small&gt; 04:26, 18 November 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == {{m|Karate Chop}} and {{m|Poison Tail}} ==<br /> 25 PP, 50 power, 100 Accuracy, high critical-hit ratios. What do you think? Also, would this need a new template to stick on the bottom of the move pages? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 05:46, 6 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Creating and adding. Any other moves that could go on this template? '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 13:34, 6 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::I don't think so, I looked at the other Critical Hit moves, none fit the definition. {{m|Air Cutter}} is close but its not exact. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 15:05, 6 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::Alright. Just wanted to make sure nothing needed to be added. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 21:16, 6 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Counter Moves ==<br /> <br /> Hey, i'm a fan of the counter moves and i've noticed something, why isn't Metal Burst counted as a variation? I've used Mirror Coat and Counter with Glaceon and Hitmonchan respectively and Metal Burst does the effects of '''both''' Mirror Coat and Counter. [[User:Geomexis|Geomexis]] 12:51, 16 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Because they aren't very close. If the effect has something different (such as Metal Burst has both, while Mirror Coat and Counter only have one), it isn't a variation. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 13:00, 16 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Counter specifically only repays physical damage double what was taken, and Mirror Coat specifically only repays special damage double what was taken. Metal Burst repays 1.5 damage, or what was taken plus half of that amount. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 19:02, 16 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Kisses ==<br /> <br /> {{m|Lovely Kiss}} and {{m|Sweet Kiss}} <br /> <br /> Same accuracy, same PP. First cause sleep, second - confusion. Aren't move variations? --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 15:08, 30 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Tackle and Peck together? ==<br /> <br /> {{m|Tackle}} and {{m|Peck}}<br /> <br /> The two moves are in a grouping together, but I believe they should not be. They share the Base Power of 35, but while Tackle is 95% accurate, and it mistakenly says Peck to be, Peck is 100% accurate. -- [[User:Mattman324]] 22:58:00, 23 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Peck and Tackle aren't variations. Especially in generation V, where Tackle received a BP of 50. Myself, I would put Peck with Vine Whip, because they both have 35 BP, 100% accuracy and no special effect. Their PP, however, differs significantly, but does that really matter? (see below) --[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 15:47, 14 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Signal Beam ==<br /> <br /> I know it seems weird, but {{m|Signal Beam}} is kinda of a variation of the elemental punches... 75 power, 100 acc, 15 PP and 10% of causing status. It breaks the &quot;tradition&quot;, so to speak, but it fits more than many of the other variations here. [[User:Mr. Charlie|&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;'''Mr. Charlie'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000FF&quot;&gt;''TalkToMe''&lt;/font&gt;]])&lt;/small&gt; 23:38, 4 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==This page needs COLOR!==<br /> Seriously, it looks really dull, which is especially bad seeing as it's pretty much all tables. One of the coding wizards here should try to make a template that incorporates colors for the type of each variation and whether they are physical, special, or a status move. For status moves, color them differently based on which stat they change or status effect they inflict—whatever it takes to make this dull-looking article into an attractive resource. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&lt;sup&gt;P&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;K&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;M&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;N&lt;/sub&gt;]] 16:46, 1 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I was just thinking of that myself, then I thought something like this would be perfect. But, you know, with colors for generations and stuff. I'm not a coding guy, I just throw the ideas. I don't mind working on the entire page, if needed, but I really don't know how. [[User:Mr. Charlie|&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;'''Mr. Charlie'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000FF&quot;&gt;''TalkToMe''&lt;/font&gt;]])&lt;/small&gt; 12:00, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #ddf; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #ccf;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> |<br /> {| border=1 width=&quot;100%&quot; align=&quot;center&quot; class=&quot;sortable&quot; style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #ddf; border-collapse:collapse;&quot;<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #ddf;&quot;<br /> ! {{color2|000000|Move}}<br /> ! {{color2|000000|Elemental types|Type}}<br /> ! {{color2|000000|Damage category|Cat.}}<br /> ! {{color2|000000|Generation|Gen}}<br /> {{tutormv|U-turn|Bug|cat=Physical|IV}}<br /> {{tutormv|Volt Change|Electric|cat=Special|V}}<br /> |}<br /> |}<br /> That looks good. You can probably lose the class=&quot;sortable&quot; since the tables are all small. And make sure you use the region colors for the generation. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 10:04, 8 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah... The &quot;how&quot; with the generation/region colors is my issue here. Could you, or anyone, show me how to do it? Really not my area of expertise. [[User:Mr. Charlie|&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;'''Mr. Charlie'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000FF&quot;&gt;''TalkToMe''&lt;/font&gt;]])&lt;/small&gt; 21:58, 10 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::How's this &lt;small&gt;Edit: link removed&lt;/small&gt; for a quick mock-up? &lt;span class=&quot;sc&quot;&gt;[[User:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2D4B98;&quot;&gt;Werdnae&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009000;&quot;&gt;(talk)&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 04:40, 12 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::I likey. Let's use it. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&lt;sup&gt;P&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;K&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;M&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;N&lt;/sub&gt;]] 11:20, 12 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::I like the idea, but don't forget that it will take longer to load this page.--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 15:36, 14 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == PP ==<br /> <br /> In the article it says that moves need to have the same PP to be variations, but throughout the article it lists moves of differing PP as variations. Should they be removed? [[User:Pikiwyn|&lt;font color=&quot;#d0000d&quot; face=&quot;boopee&quot;&gt;'''''Pikiwyn'''''&lt;/font&gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&lt;tt&gt;&lt;sup&gt;'''''&lt;font color=&quot;black&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/font&gt;'''''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/tt&gt;]] 17:46, 11 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I would think so. You can't have the article contradict itself, can you? &lt;code&gt;;)&lt;/code&gt; [[User:The Exterminator|The Exterminator]] 17:53, 11 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I agree, for my edit and talk page reasons. It's [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig A]]! [[User talk:Turtwig A|My talk]] or [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|wiki edits]] 00:52, 12 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::An article indeed shouldn't contradict itself. That's why the definition itself needs to be altered. --[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 16:27, 14 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Definition ==<br /> <br /> The definition isn't specific enough. &quot;Move variations are moves that are identical to each other in terms of damage, PP, and accuracy, but have different elemental types, damage categories, or secondary effects.&quot; The definition works for damaging moves but according to it almost all status moves that have the same PP are variations of each other. So I'm thinking maybe the article needs a different definition for status moves? [[User:Pikiwyn|&lt;font color=&quot;#d0000d&quot; face=&quot;boopee&quot;&gt;'''''Pikiwyn'''''&lt;/font&gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&lt;tt&gt;&lt;sup&gt;'''''&lt;font color=&quot;black&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/font&gt;'''''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/tt&gt;]] 17:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :How about something like, Status move variations are moves that raise or decrease the same number of stats by the same number of levels. It makes more sense because that way moves like Iron Defense will be a variant of Acid Armor, instead of the current description which makes Baton Pass a variant of Acid Armor. [[User:Pikiwyn|&lt;font color=&quot;#d0000d&quot; face=&quot;boopee&quot;&gt;'''''Pikiwyn'''''&lt;/font&gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&lt;tt&gt;&lt;sup&gt;'''''&lt;font color=&quot;black&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/font&gt;'''''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/tt&gt;]] 13:37, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::This is what the definition should be: &quot;Move varations are moves that are identical in terms of dammage and accuracy, and have similar secondary effects.&quot; --[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 16:33, 14 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thrash, Petal Dance, and Outrage ==<br /> <br /> Here's my question. Thrash and Petal Dance are grouped together, but Outrage is not included only because is has 15 PP instead of 10. This difference seems minor to me, and so I think Outrage should be insluded in this group, with a note on it. If this doesn't work, then it doesn't work, but I know for a fact that most people focos on the actual move and its effects, not the PP it has. There are even people in this talk (although from 2 years ago lol) that group them together, and I know that most people think they are the same move with different types, especially now that they have the same power in Gen V. --[[User:Jdthebud|Jdthebud]] 23:11, 8 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I know that we don't want the article to contradict itself in this regard, but I think that these three moves are so similar that this could be the exception to the rule. --[[User:Jdthebud|Jdthebud]] 23:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Outrage should be included. Reason: see below.--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 15:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == PP shouldn't be taken into account ==<br /> <br /> Taking the PP into account makes the list messier and more incomplete. They are also not the most important aspect anyway ingame: it doesn't really matter if a move has 35 PP or 40 PP. Seperating Night Slash from Slash, for example, causes an unnecesary amount of slots.--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 15:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I agree 100%. PP is such a minor detail, it shouldn't even matter. The important thing is base power, similar or identical side effects, and accuracy. Any move that only serves to boost a stat by two stages is a variation of Acid Armor. Well, I'm not entirely sure on Body Purge, given its other effect of halving the user's weight, but still. My point is, PP shouldn't be taken into account. &lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' &lt;/small&gt; 16:35, 14 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::I agree too. IMO, the amount of PP is more minor than {{tt|Damage Category|although it shouldn't be included}}.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#BF0B17&quot;&gt;ＤＥＮＮＯＵ&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#1250A6&quot;&gt;ＺＥＮＳＨＩ&lt;/font&gt;]] 16:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::I also agree, it doesn't make sense that something like acid armor isn't a variant of iron defense. [[User:Pikiwyn|&lt;font color=&quot;#d0000d&quot; face=&quot;boopee&quot;&gt;'''''Pikiwyn'''''&lt;/font&gt;]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|&lt;tt&gt;&lt;sup&gt;'''''&lt;font color=&quot;black&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/font&gt;'''''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/tt&gt;]] 17:32, 14 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::OK, so if the majority think that PP shouldn't count, we can put it back how it was. I changed it because it seemed that people wanted PP to count. I think it should be considered at least under some circumstances. I will stop changing the templates for move variations until the issue is resolved. <br /> ::::Also, it did not create an excessive amount of categories—several were deleted and several were made, balancing out. And PP is much more influential the damage categories. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 08:12, 15 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::Ok, it's maybe better to wait until there aren't any issues about that anymore. You can always watch the version regardless of PP (where I was responsible for) at this URL: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Move_variations&amp;oldid=1253819--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 19:38, 15 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::After discussing it with a couple of other admins, we decided that the PP does not have to be the same, but it should be similar. i.e. it should differ by five or less. More than that is an indication that the moves aren't especially similar. &lt;span class=&quot;sc&quot;&gt;[[User:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2D4B98;&quot;&gt;Werdnae&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009000;&quot;&gt;(talk)&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 20:38, 5 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Different catagories==<br /> <br /> I have seperated the status moves from the other moves. The sharply-stat raising moves (besides those of 15PP) are now next to each other.--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 16:56, 16 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Haze &amp; Mist ==<br /> <br /> Can someone add Haze &amp; Mist to the list (they are counterparts)?[[User:Vuvuzela2010|Vuvuzela2010]] 08:32, 23 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Shadow Ball/Crunch as variations of Waterfall ==<br /> <br /> I added them to variations of waterfall and changed the definition of waterfall so that they both fit. But since all previous variations caused flinching, and the two I added lower defense /sp. def should they be considered two different moveset variations? Also, the templates under shadow ball and crunch I left as they are because I have no idea how to do it, or if even they are in fact variations of waterfall. Thanks...<br /> <br /> == Extreme Speed and Sucker Punch ==<br /> {{m|Extremespeed}} now has +2 priority instead of +1. So, isn't it not a variation of {{m|Sucker Punch}} anymore? Also Sucker Punch work in different way, so this moves seems even less likely to be variations. --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 09:39, 4 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Elemental Surfs? ==<br /> <br /> Discharge is like surf, affecting all opponents. Also a poison move.<br /> <br /> Also Poison Fang should be with the fangs.[[User:Tesseract|Tesseract]] 08:53, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Discharge does not have the same base power as Surf. Therefore, not a variant. Poison Fang also does not have the same base power as the other fangs. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#33CC66;&quot;&gt;'''ケンジ'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6600CC;&quot;&gt;'''の'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF00CC;&quot;&gt;'''ガール'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 08:58, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Order of Oath Moves Doesn't Matter ==<br /> <br /> Hasn't it been confirmed that the Oath moves can be used in any order to produce the same effect? Each individual page should be updated accordingly. (I figured I'd say this here instead of repeating myself on each individual page. This page (Move Variations) seems correct, but the individual pages are not.) [[User:Grei|Grei]] 18:01, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ignore base power differences, if the rest of the move is similar? ==<br /> <br /> There may be one or two other examples of this, but the main one I'm thinking about is Zap Cannon in relation to DynamicPunch and Purgatory. Just because the base power of Zap was increased to 120 shouldn't disqualify it from being a variation of the other two moves, because they all have the same, and probably more important and notable properties of 50% accuracy and the guaranteed infliction of a status ailment (type/ability permitting).<br /> <br /> Also, as an aside, why disqualify Surf from being similar to Tbolt, Flamer, Ice Beam and Slime Wave? It's also the Base 95, fully accurate move of it's type... '''[[User:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; face=&quot;Verdana&quot;&gt;TheChrisD&lt;/font&gt;]]''' &lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Rants&lt;/font&gt;]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Edits&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 02:21, 25 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> :{{m|Surf}} hit all opponents in double battles, while {{m|Ice Beam}} can freeze, {{m|Flamethrower}} inflict burn and so on, there is the difference. It's noted that {{m|Zap Cannon}} '''was''' a variation. Is there any other moves, which are similar except for base power really? --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 09:36, 25 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> ::Still though, it does mean that they all have a secondary effect, simply because one of those effects does not actually inflict a status ailment shouldn't be enough to disqualify it from being considered a move variation, when in that case, the real important points to note of those moves are that they are the Base 95 move of their type.<br /> ::While Zap is currently being taken as a ''former'' variation, that's simply because of the change in Base Power - but in the case of their group, the most notable feature of them is their 50% accuracy and the infliction of the status ailment. Just because one of them was upgraded (for some unknown reason) really shouldn't be enough to disqualify it. I'm not sure of any other cases where this could apply - Leaf Blade's base power increase was a different thing, because the other aspects of the group probably weren't as notable since it was just the &quot;high crit rate&quot; factor. '''[[User:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; face=&quot;Verdana&quot;&gt;TheChrisD&lt;/font&gt;]]''' &lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Rants&lt;/font&gt;]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Edits&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:59, 2 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> :::Moves with different base powers and accuracies really aren't variations. PP is less of a concern, as it does not affect how the move functions (except {{m|Trump Card}}, where a variation would require identical PP). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 10:51, 13 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Psycho Shock ==<br /> <br /> Psycho Shock and Sword of Mystery (Keldeo's signature move).<br /> special attack, 100% accurancy, 10 PP ,damage based on user's sp. attack and target's defence, but shock has 80 base power and sword has 85. --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:42, 24 February 2011 (UTC)</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Battleground&diff=1369906 2011-02-24T18:18:32Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* Trivia */</p> <hr /> <div>{{incomplete}}<br /> {{Infobox location<br /> |image=Battleground.png<br /> |type=road<br /> |location_name=Battleground<br /> |japanese_name=しょうぶどころ<br /> |translated_name=Match Place<br /> |location=[[Survival Area]]<br /> |region=Sinnoh<br /> |generation={{gen|IV}}<br /> |map=Survival Area.png<br /> }}<br /> The '''Battleground''' (Japanese: '''しょうぶどころ''' ''Match Place'') is a building owned by [[Buck]] that is located in the [[Survival Area]] of the [[Battle Zone]], and only available in {{game|Platinum}}. After the [[Stark Mountain]] subquest with [[Team Galactic]], {{player}}s can {{pkmn|battle}} [[Gym Leader]]s and [[Stat Trainers|tag battle partners]] from earlier in the game. Up to four of these {{pkmn|Trainer}}s appear each day and they can be battled only once a day. Resetting before entering the Battleground would change the Trainers who are inside. <br /> <br /> According to Buck's grandfather, only Gym Leaders and those vouched for by them are allowed here.<br /> <br /> ==Trainers==<br /> ===Gym Leaders===<br /> ====[[Roark]]====<br /> {{Party<br /> |color={{rock color}}<br /> |headcolor={{rock color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{rock color dark}}<br /> |sprite=RoarkPlatinum.gif<br /> |prize={{Pdollar}}7800<br /> |class=Leader<br /> |name=Roark<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Battleground<br /> |pokemon=5<br /> |pokemon1={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=142<br /> |pokemon=Aerodactyl<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=62<br /> |ability=Rock Head<br /> |type1=Rock<br /> |type2=Flying<br /> |move1=Stone Edge<br /> |move1type=Rock<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Aerial Ace<br /> |move2type=Flying<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Earthquake<br /> |move3type=Ground<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Dragon Claw<br /> |move4type=Dragon<br /> |move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |pokemon2={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=476<br /> |pokemon=Probopass<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=61<br /> |ability=Sturdy<br /> |type1=Rock<br /> |type2=Steel<br /> |move1=Earth Power<br /> |move1type=Ground<br /> |move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Stealth Rock<br /> |move2type=Rock<br /> |move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Discharge<br /> |move3type=Electric<br /> |move3cat=Special<br /> |move4=Stone Edge<br /> |move4type=Rock<br /> |move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |pokemon3={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=409<br /> |pokemon=Rampardos<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=63<br /> |ability=Mold Breaker<br /> |type1=Rock<br /> |move1=Head Smash<br /> |move1type=Rock<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Zen Headbutt<br /> |move2type=Psychic<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Avalanche<br /> |move3type=Ice<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Earthquake<br /> |move4type=Ground<br /> |move4cat=Physical}}<br /> ||pokemon4={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=076<br /> |pokemon=Golem<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=61<br /> |ability=Rock Head<br /> |type1=Rock<br /> |type2=Ground<br /> |move1=Stone Edge<br /> |move1type=Rock<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Earthquake<br /> |move2type=Ground<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Brick Break<br /> |move3type=Fighting<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Flamethrower<br /> |move4type=Fire<br /> |move4cat=Special}}<br /> |pokemon5={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=248<br /> |pokemon=Tyranitar<br /> |gender=male<br /> |held=Sitrus Berry<br /> |level=65<br /> |ability=Sand Stream<br /> |type1=Rock<br /> |type2=Dark<br /> |move1=Stone Edge<br /> |move1type=Rock<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Crunch<br /> |move2type=Dark<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Aerial Ace<br /> |move3type=Flying<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Fire Fang<br /> |move4type=Fire<br /> |move4cat=Physical}}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ====[[Gardenia]]====<br /> {{Party|<br /> |color={{grass color}}<br /> |bordercolor={{grass color dark}}<br /> |headcolor={{grass color light}}<br /> |sprite=GardeniaPlatinum.gif<br /> |prize={{pdollar}}7800<br /> |class=Leader<br /> |name=Gardenia<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Battleground<br /> |pokemon=5<br /> |pokemon1={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |ndex=189<br /> |pokemon=Jumpluff<br /> |gender=female<br /> |type1=Grass<br /> |type2=Flying<br /> |ability=Chlorophyll<br /> |level=61<br /> |move1=Silver Wind<br /> |move1type=Bug<br /> |move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Toxic<br /> |move2type=Poison<br /> |move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Sunny Day<br /> |move3type=Fire<br /> |move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Bounce<br /> |move4type=Flying<br /> |move4cat=Physical<br /> }}<br /> |pokemon2={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |ndex=421<br /> |pokemon=Cherrim<br /> |gender=female<br /> |type1=Grass<br /> |ability=Flower Gift<br /> |level=62<br /> |move1=SolarBeam<br /> |move1type=Grass<br /> |move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Leech Seed<br /> |move2type=Grass<br /> |move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Toxic<br /> |move3type=Poison<br /> |move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Sunny Day<br /> |move4type=Fire<br /> |move4cat=Status<br /> }}<br /> <br /> |pokemon3={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |ndex=182<br /> |pokemon=Bellossom<br /> |gender=female<br /> |type1=Grass<br /> |ability=Chlorophyll<br /> |level=61<br /> |move1=Drain Punch<br /> |move1type=Fighting<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Giga Drain<br /> |move2type=Grass<br /> |move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Ingrain<br /> |move3type=Grass<br /> |move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Sunny Day<br /> |move4type=Fire<br /> |move4cat=Status<br /> }}<br /> <br /> |pokemon4={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |ndex=389<br /> |pokemon=Torterra<br /> |gender=male<br /> |type1=Grass<br /> |type2=Ground<br /> |ability=Overgrow<br /> |level=63<br /> |move1=Wood Hammer<br /> |move1type=Grass<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Crunch<br /> |move2type=Dark<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Earthquake<br /> |move3type=Ground<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Stone Edge<br /> |move4type=Rock<br /> |move4cat=Physical<br /> }}<br /> <br /> |pokemon5={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |ndex=407<br /> |pokemon=Roserade<br /> |gender=female<br /> |spritegender=female<br /> |type1=Grass<br /> |type2=Poison<br /> |held=Sitrus Berry<br /> |ability=Natural Cure<br /> |level=65<br /> |move1=Leaf Storm<br /> |move1type=Grass<br /> |move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Sludge Bomb<br /> |move2type=Poison<br /> |move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Shadow Ball<br /> |move3type=Ghost<br /> |move3cat=Special<br /> |move4=Hyper Beam<br /> |move4type=Normal<br /> |move4cat=Special<br /> }}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ====[[Fantina]]====<br /> {{Party<br /> |color={{ghost color}}<br /> |headcolor={{ghost color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{ghost color dark}}<br /> |sprite=FantinaPlatinum.gif<br /> |prize={{Pdollar}}7800<br /> |class=Leader<br /> |name=Fantina<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Battleground<br /> |pokemon=5<br /> |pokemon1={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=354<br /> |pokemon=Banette<br /> |gender=female<br /> |level=61<br /> |type1=Ghost<br /> |ability=Insomnia<br /> |move1=Shadow Claw<br /> |move1type=Ghost<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Faint Attack<br /> |move2type=Dark<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Thunderbolt<br /> |move3type=Electric<br /> |move3cat=Special<br /> |move4=Will-O-Wisp<br /> |move4type=Fire<br /> |move4cat=Status}}<br /> |pokemon2={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=429<br /> |pokemon=Mismagius<br /> |gender=female<br /> |level=63<br /> |type1=Ghost<br /> |ability=Levitate<br /> |move1=Shadow Ball<br /> |move1type=Ghost<br /> |move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Psychic<br /> |move2type=Psychic<br /> |move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Magical Leaf<br /> |move3type=Grass<br /> |move3cat=Special<br /> |move4=Thunderbolt<br /> |move4type=Electric<br /> |move4cat=Special}}<br /> |pokemon3={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=426<br /> |pokemon=Drifblim<br /> |gender=female<br /> |level=61<br /> |type1=Ghost<br /> |type2=Flying<br /> |ability=Aftermath<br /> |held=<br /> |move1=Ominous Wind<br /> |move1type=Ghost<br /> |move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Psychic<br /> |move2type=Psychic<br /> |move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Silver Wind<br /> |move3type=Bug<br /> |move3cat=Special<br /> |move4=Baton Pass<br /> |move4type=Normal<br /> |move4cat=Status}}<br /> |pokemon4={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=477<br /> |pokemon=Dusknoir<br /> |gender=female<br /> |level=62<br /> |type1=Ghost<br /> |ability=Pressure<br /> |move1=Rock Slide<br /> |move1type=Rock<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Shadow Punch<br /> |move2type=Ghost<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Double Team<br /> |move3type=Normal<br /> |move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Protect<br /> |move4type=Normal<br /> |move4cat=Status}}<br /> |pokemon5={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=094<br /> |pokemon=Gengar<br /> |gender=female<br /> |level=65<br /> |type1=Ghost<br /> |type2=Poison<br /> |ability=Levitate<br /> |held=Sitrus Berry<br /> |move1=Shadow Ball<br /> |move1type=Ghost<br /> |move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Psychic<br /> |move2type=Psychic<br /> |move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Focus Blast<br /> |move3type=Fighting<br /> |move3cat=Special<br /> |move4=Thunder<br /> |move4type=Electric<br /> |move4cat=Special}}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ====[[Maylene]]====<br /> {{Party<br /> |color={{fighting color}}<br /> |headcolor={{fighting color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{fighting color dark}}<br /> |sprite=MaylenePlatinum.gif<br /> |prize={{pdollar}}7920<br /> |class=Leader<br /> |name=Maylene<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Battleground<br /> |pokemon=5<br /> |pokemon1={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=237<br /> |pokemon=Hitmontop<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=62<br /> |type1=Fighting<br /> |ability=Intimidate<br /> |move1=Triple Kick<br /> |move1type=Fighting<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Aerial Ace<br /> |move2type=Flying<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Quick Attack<br /> |move3type=Normal<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Fake Out<br /> |move4type=Normal<br /> |move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |pokemon2={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=286<br /> |pokemon=Breloom<br /> |gender=female<br /> |level=62<br /> |type1=Grass<br /> |type2=Fighting<br /> |ability=Effect Spore<br /> |move1=Stone Edge<br /> |move1type=Rock<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Spore<br /> |move2type=Grass<br /> |move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Mach Punch<br /> |move3type=Fighting<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Seed Bomb<br /> |move4type=Grass<br /> |move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |pokemon3={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=308 f<br /> |pokemon=Medicham<br /> |gender=female<br /> |level=63<br /> |type1=Fighting<br /> |type2=Psychic<br /> |ability=Pure Power<br /> |move1=Fire Punch<br /> |move1type=Fire<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Ice Punch<br /> |move2type=Ice<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=ThunderPunch<br /> |move3type=Electric<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Hi Jump Kick<br /> |move4type=Fighting<br /> |move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |pokemon4={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=068<br /> |pokemon=Machamp<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=64<br /> |type1=Fighting<br /> |ability=Guts<br /> |move1=Cross Chop<br /> |move1type=Fighting<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Rock Climb<br /> |move2type=Normal<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Earthquake<br /> |move3type=Ground<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Stone Edge<br /> |move4type=Rock<br /> |move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |pokemon5={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=448<br /> |pokemon=Lucario<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=66<br /> |type1=Fighting<br /> |type2=Steel<br /> |ability=Steadfast<br /> |move1=Drain Punch<br /> |move1type=Fighting<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Close Combat<br /> |move2type=Fighting<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=ExtremeSpeed<br /> |move3type=Normal<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Bone Rush<br /> |move4type=Ground<br /> |move4cat=Physical}}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ====[[Crasher Wake]]====<br /> {{Party<br /> |color={{water color}}<br /> |headcolor={{water color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{water color dark}}<br /> |sprite=CrasherWakePlatinum.gif<br /> |prize={{Pdollar}}7800<br /> |class=Leader<br /> |name=Wake<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Battleground<br /> |pokemon=5<br /> |pokemon1={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=319<br /> |pokemon=Sharpedo<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=61<br /> |type1=Water<br /> |type2=Dark<br /> |ability=Rough Skin<br /> |move1=Aqua Jet<br /> |move1type=Water<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Night Slash<br /> |move2type=Dark<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Endure<br /> |move3type=Normal<br /> |move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Slash<br /> |move4type=Normal<br /> |move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |pokemon2={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=195 m<br /> |pokemon=Quagsire<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=61<br /> |type1=Water<br /> |type2=Ground<br /> |ability=Damp<br /> |move1=Earthquake<br /> |move1type=Ground<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Stone Edge<br /> |move2type=Rock<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Yawn<br /> |move3type=Normal<br /> |move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Surf<br /> |move4type=Water<br /> |move4cat=Special}}<br /> |pokemon3={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=419 m<br /> |pokemon=Floatzel<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=63<br /> |type1=Water<br /> |ability=Swift Swim<br /> |move1=Brine<br /> |move1type=Water<br /> |move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Ice Fang<br /> |move2type=Ice<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Crunch<br /> |move3type=Dark<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Aqua Jet<br /> |move4type=Water<br /> |move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |pokemon4={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=130 m<br /> |pokemon=Gyarados<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=62<br /> |type1=Water<br /> |type2=Flying<br /> |ability=Intimidate<br /> |move1=Aqua Tail<br /> |move1type=Water<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Avalanche<br /> |move2type=Ice<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Bite<br /> |move3type=Dark<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Giga Impact<br /> |move4type=Normal<br /> |move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |pokemon5={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=272 m<br /> |pokemon=Ludicolo<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=65<br /> |type1=Water<br /> |type2=Grass<br /> |ability=Swift Swim<br /> |held=Sitrus Berry<br /> |move1=Surf<br /> |move1type=Water<br /> |move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Ice Beam<br /> |move2type=Ice<br /> |move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Energy Ball<br /> |move3type=Grass<br /> |move3cat=Special<br /> |move4=Focus Blast<br /> |move4type=Fighting<br /> |move4cat=Special}}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ====[[Byron]]====<br /> {{Party|color={{steel color}}|bordercolor={{steel color dark}}|headcolor={{steel color light}}<br /> |sprite=ByronPlatinum.gif<br /> |prize={{pdollar}}7800<br /> |class=Leader<br /> |name=Byron<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Battleground<br /> |pokemon=5<br /> |pokemon1={{Pokémon/4|gen=4|game=Platinum|ndex=227|pokemon=Skarmory<br /> |ability=Keen Eye|level=61|gender=male|type1=Steel|type2=Flying<br /> |move1=Night Slash|move1type=Dark|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Drill Peck|move2type=Flying|move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Rock Tomb|move3type=Rock|move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Stealth Rock|move4type=Rock|move4cat=Status}}<br /> |pokemon2={{Pokémon/4|gen=4|game=Platinum|ndex=462|pokemon=Magnezone<br /> |ability=Magnet Pull|level=62|type1=Electric|type2=Steel<br /> |move1=Flash Cannon|move1type=Steel|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Thunderbolt|move2type=Electric|move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Supersonic|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Thunder Wave|move4type=Electric|move4cat=Status}}<br /> |pokemon3={{Pokémon/4|gen=4|game=Platinum|ndex=208|spritegender=male|pokemon=Steelix<br /> |ability=Rock Head|level=61|gender=male|type1=Steel|type2=Ground<br /> |move1=Gyro Ball|move1type=Steel|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Ice Fang|move2type=Ice|move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=DragonBreath|move3type=Dragon|move3cat=Special<br /> |move4=Sandstorm|move4type=Rock|move4cat=Status}}<br /> |pokemon4={{Pokémon/4|gen=4|game=Platinum|ndex=411|pokemon=Bastiodon<br /> |ability=Sturdy|level=63|gender=male|type1=Rock|type2=Steel<br /> |move1=Metal Burst|move1type=Steel|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=AncientPower|move2type=Rock|move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Iron Defense|move3type=Steel|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Rest|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Status}}<br /> |pokemon5={{Pokémon/4|gen=4|game=Platinum|ndex=306|pokemon=Aggron<br /> |ability=Sturdy|level=65|gender=male|type1=Steel|type2=Rock|held=Sitrus Berry<br /> |move1=Stone Edge|move1type=Rock|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Metal Burst|move2type=Steel|move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Earthquake|move3type=Ground|move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Avalanche|move4type=Ice|move4cat=Physical}}}}<br /> <br /> ====[[Candice]]====<br /> {{Party<br /> |color={{ice color}}<br /> |headcolor={{ice color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{ice color dark}}<br /> |sprite=CandicePlatinum.gif<br /> |prize={{Pdollar}}7800<br /> |class=Leader<br /> |name=Candice<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Battleground<br /> |pokemon=5<br /> |pokemon1={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=461 f<br /> |pokemon=Weavile<br /> |gender=female<br /> |level=62<br /> |type1=Dark<br /> |type2=Ice<br /> |ability=Pressure<br /> |move1=Avalanche<br /> |move1type=Ice<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Faint Attack<br /> |move2type=Dark<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Taunt<br /> |move3type=Dark<br /> |move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Slash<br /> |move4type=Normal<br /> |move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |pokemon2={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=473 f<br /> |pokemon=Mamoswine<br /> |gender=female<br /> |level=61<br /> |type1=Ice<br /> |type2=Ground<br /> |ability=Oblivious<br /> |move1=Earthquake<br /> |move1type=Ground<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Avalanche<br /> |move2type=Ice<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=AncientPower<br /> |move3type=Rock<br /> |move3cat=Special<br /> |move4=Hail<br /> |move4type=Ice<br /> |move4cat=Status}}<br /> |pokemon3={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=460 f<br /> |pokemon=Abomasnow<br /> |gender=female<br /> |level=61<br /> |type1=Grass<br /> |type2=Ice<br /> |ability=Snow Warning<br /> |move1=GrassWhistle<br /> |move1type=Grass<br /> |move1cat=Status<br /> |move2=Avalanche<br /> |move2type=Ice<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Wood Hammer<br /> |move3type=Grass<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Ingrain<br /> |move4type=Grass<br /> |move4cat=Status}}<br /> |pokemon4={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=478<br /> |pokemon=Froslass<br /> |gender=female<br /> |level=63<br /> |type1=Ice<br /> |type2=Ghost<br /> |ability=Snow Cloak<br /> |move1=Confuse Ray<br /> |move1type=Ghost<br /> |move1cat=Status<br /> |move2=Blizzard<br /> |move2type=Ice<br /> |move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Ominous Wind<br /> |move3type=Ghost<br /> |move3cat=Special<br /> |move4=Hail<br /> |move4type=Ice<br /> |move4cat=Status}}<br /> |pokemon5={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=471<br /> |pokemon=Glaceon<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=65<br /> |type1=Ice<br /> |ability=Snow Cloak<br /> |held=Sitrus Berry<br /> |move1=Mirror Coat<br /> |move1type=Psychic<br /> |move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Blizzard<br /> |move2type=Ice<br /> |move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Shadow Ball<br /> |move3type=Ghost<br /> |move3cat=Special<br /> |move4=Water Pulse<br /> |move4type=Water<br /> |move4cat=Special}}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ====[[Volkner]]====<br /> {{Party|color={{electric color}}|bordercolor={{electric color dark}}|headcolor={{electric color light}}<br /> |sprite=VolknerPlatinum.gif<br /> |prize={{pdollar}}[[Pokémon Dollar|7800]]<br /> |class=Leader<br /> |name=Volkner<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Battleground<br /> |pokemon=5<br /> |pokemon1={{Pokémon/4|gen=4|game=Platinum|ndex=135|pokemon=Jolteon<br /> |ability=Volt Absorb|level=61|gender=male|type1=Electric<br /> |move1=Charge Beam|move1type=Electric|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Pin Missile|move2type=Bug|move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Double Kick|move3type=Fighting|move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Quick Attack|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |pokemon2={{Pokémon/4|gen=4|game=Platinum|ndex=026|pokemon=Raichu<br /> |ability=Static|level=61|gender=male|spritegender=male|type1=Electric<br /> |move1=Charge Beam|move1type=Electric|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Thunder Wave|move2type=Electric|move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Light Screen|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Brick Break|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |pokemon3={{Pokémon/4|gen=4|game=Platinum|ndex=405|pokemon=Luxray<br /> |ability=Rivalry|level=62|gender=male|spritegender=male|type1=Electric<br /> |move1=Thunder Fang|move1type=Electric|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Fire Fang|move2type=Fire|move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Crunch|move3type=Dark|move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Ice Fang|move4type=Ice|move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |pokemon4={{Pokémon/4|gen=4|game=Platinum|ndex=171|pokemon=Lanturn<br /> |ability=Volt Absorb|level=63|gender=male|type1=Water|type2=Electric<br /> |move1=Discharge|move1type=Electric|move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Surf|move2type=Water|move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Signal Beam|move3type=Bug|move3cat=Special<br /> |move4=Ice Beam|move4type=Ice|move4cat=Special}}<br /> |pokemon5={{Pokémon/4|gen=4|game=Platinum|ndex=466|pokemon=Electivire<br /> |ability=Motor Drive|level=65|gender=male|type1=Electric|held=Sitrus Berry<br /> |move1=ThunderPunch|move1type=Electric|move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Fire Punch|move2type=Fire|move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Giga Impact|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Brick Break|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}}}<br /> <br /> ===[[Stat Trainers|Tag battle partners]]===<br /> ====[[Cheryl]]====<br /> {{Party<br /> |color={{hp color}}<br /> |bordercolor={{hp color dark}}<br /> |headcolor={{hp color light}}<br /> |class=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Cheryl<br /> |sprite=CherylPlatinum.gif<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Battleground<br /> |prize={{pdollar}}7800<br /> |pokemon=5<br /> |pokemon1={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |pokemon=Wobbuffet<br /> |type1=Psychic<br /> |ndex=202<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |level=61<br /> |gender=female<br /> |spritegender=female<br /> |ability=Shadow Tag<br /> |move1=Counter<br /> |move1type=Fighting<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Mirror Coat<br /> |move2type=Psychic<br /> |move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Safeguard<br /> |move3type=Normal<br /> |move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Encore<br /> |move4type=Normal<br /> |move4cat=Status<br /> }}<br /> |pokemon2={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |pokemon=Wailord<br /> |type1=Water<br /> |ndex=321<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |level=63<br /> |gender=female<br /> |ability=Water Veil<br /> |move1=Avalanche<br /> |move1type=Ice<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Earthquake<br /> |move2type=Ground<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Water Spout<br /> |move3type=Water<br /> |move3cat=Special<br /> |move4=Brine<br /> |move4type=Water<br /> |move4cat=Special<br /> }}<br /> |pokemon3={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |pokemon=Drifblim<br /> |type1=Ghost<br /> |type2=Flying<br /> |ndex=426<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |gender=female<br /> |level=61<br /> |ability=Aftermath<br /> |move1=Protect<br /> |move1type=Normal<br /> |move1cat=Status<br /> |move2=Toxic<br /> |move2type=Poison<br /> |move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Ominous Wind<br /> |move3type=Ghost<br /> |move3cat=Special<br /> |move4=Fly<br /> |move4type=Flying<br /> |move4cat=Physical<br /> }}<br /> |pokemon4={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |pokemon=Hariyama<br /> |type1=Fighting<br /> |gender=male<br /> |ndex=297<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |level=62<br /> |ability=Thick Fat<br /> |move1=Stone Edge<br /> |move1type=Rock<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Bullet Punch<br /> |move2type=Steel<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Close Combat<br /> |move3type=Fighting<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Earthquake<br /> |move4type=Ground<br /> |move4cat=Physical<br /> }}<br /> |pokemon5={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |pokemon=Blissey<br /> |type1=Normal<br /> |ndex=242<br /> |gender=female<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |level=65<br /> |ability=Natural Cure<br /> |held=Sitrus Berry<br /> |move1=Counter<br /> |move1type=Fighting<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Softboiled<br /> |move2type=Normal<br /> |move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Psychic<br /> |move3type=Psychic<br /> |move3cat=Special<br /> |move4=Toxic<br /> |move4type=Poison<br /> |move4cat=Status<br /> }}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ====[[Mira]]====<br /> {{Party<br /> |color={{special attack color}}<br /> |bordercolor={{special attack color dark}}<br /> |headcolor={{special attack color light}}<br /> |class=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Mira<br /> |sprite=MiraPlatinum.gif<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Battleground<br /> |prize={{pdollar}}7800<br /> |pokemon=5<br /> |pokemon1={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |pokemon=Porygon-Z<br /> |type1=Normal<br /> |ndex=474<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |level=61<br /> |ability=Adaptability<br /> |move1=Tri Attack<br /> |move1type=Normal<br /> |move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Dark Pulse<br /> |move2type=Dark<br /> |move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Psychic<br /> |move3type=Psychic<br /> |move3cat=Special<br /> |move4=Thunderbolt<br /> |move4type=Electric<br /> |move4cat=Special<br /> }}<br /> |pokemon2={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |pokemon=Gengar<br /> |type1=Ghost<br /> |type2=Poison<br /> |ndex=094<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |level=61<br /> |gender=female<br /> |ability=Levitate<br /> |move1=Shadow Ball<br /> |move1type=Ghost<br /> |move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Energy Ball<br /> |move2type=Grass<br /> |move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Sludge Bomb<br /> |move3type=Poison<br /> |move3cat=Special<br /> |move4=Psychic<br /> |move4type=Psychic<br /> |move4cat=Special<br /> }}<br /> |pokemon3={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |pokemon=Magnezone<br /> |type1=Electric<br /> |type2=Steel<br /> |ndex=462<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |level=62<br /> |ability=Magnet Pull<br /> |move1=Flash Cannon<br /> |move1type=Steel<br /> |move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Hyper Beam<br /> |move2type=Normal<br /> |move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Thunder Wave<br /> |move3type=Electric<br /> |move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Thunder<br /> |move4type=Electric<br /> |move4cat=Special<br /> }}<br /> |pokemon4={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |pokemon=Togekiss<br /> |type1=Normal<br /> |type2=Flying<br /> |gender=male<br /> |ndex=468<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |level=63<br /> |ability=Hustle<br /> |move1=Aura Sphere<br /> |move1type=Fighting<br /> |move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=ExtremeSpeed<br /> |move2type=Normal<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Psychic<br /> |move3type=Psychic<br /> |move3cat=Special<br /> |move4=Air Slash<br /> |move4type=Flying<br /> |move4cat=Special<br /> }}<br /> |pokemon5={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |pokemon=Alakazam<br /> |type1=Psychic<br /> |ndex=065<br /> |gender=male<br /> |spritegender=male<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |level=65<br /> |ability=Synchronize<br /> |held=Sitrus Berry<br /> |move1=Focus Blast<br /> |move1type=Fighting<br /> |move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Calm Mind<br /> |move2type=Psychic<br /> |move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Psychic<br /> |move3type=Psychic<br /> |move3cat=Special<br /> |move4=Hyper Beam<br /> |move4type=Normal<br /> |move4cat=Special<br /> }}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ====[[Riley]]====<br /> {{Party<br /> |color={{attack color}}<br /> |headcolor={{attack color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{attack color dark}}<br /> |sprite=RileyPlatinum.gif‎<br /> |prize={{Pdollar}}7800<br /> |class=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Riley<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Battleground<br /> |pokemon=5<br /> |pokemon1={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=359<br /> |pokemon=Absol<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=61<br /> |ability=Pressure<br /> |type1=Dark<br /> |move1=Swords Dance<br /> |move1type=Normal<br /> |move1cat=Status<br /> |move2=Night Slash<br /> |move2type=Dark<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Psycho Cut<br /> |move3type=Psychic<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Quick Attack<br /> |move4type=Normal<br /> |move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |pokemon2={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=373<br /> |pokemon=Salamence<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=63<br /> |ability=Intimidate<br /> |type1=Dragon<br /> |type2=Flying<br /> |move1=Crunch<br /> |move1type=Dark<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Fire Fang<br /> |move2type=Fire<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Thunder Fang<br /> |move3type=Electric<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Dragon Claw<br /> |move4type=Dragon<br /> |move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |pokemon3={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=376<br /> |pokemon=Metagross<br /> |level=62<br /> |ability=Clear Body<br /> |type1=Steel<br /> |type2=Psychic<br /> |move1=Meteor Mash<br /> |move1type=Steel<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Hammer Arm<br /> |move2type=Fighting<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Bullet Punch<br /> |move3type=Steel<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Zen Headbutt<br /> |move4type=Psychic<br /> |move4cat=Physical}}<br /> ||pokemon4={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=217 m<br /> |pokemon=Ursaring<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=61<br /> |ability=Guts<br /> |type1=Normal<br /> |move1=Aerial Ace<br /> |move1type=Flying<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Avalanche<br /> |move2type=Ice<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Shadow Claw<br /> |move3type=Ghost<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Slash<br /> |move4type=Normal<br /> |move4cat=Physical}}<br /> |pokemon5={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=448<br /> |pokemon=Lucario<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=65<br /> |held=Sitrus Berry<br /> |ability=Steadfast<br /> |type1=Fighting<br /> |type2=Steel<br /> |move1=Close Combat<br /> |move1type=Fighting<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Blaze Kick<br /> |move2type=Fire<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=ExtremeSpeed<br /> |move3type=Normal<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Bone Rush<br /> |move4type=Ground<br /> |move4cat=Physical}}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ====[[Marley]]====<br /> {{Party<br /> |color={{speed color}}<br /> |bordercolor={{speed color dark}}<br /> |headcolor={{speed color light}}<br /> |class=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Marley<br /> |sprite=MarleyPlatinum.gif<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Battleground<br /> |prize={{pdollar}}7800<br /> |pokemon=5<br /> |pokemon1={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |pokemon=Ninjask<br /> |type1=Bug<br /> |type2=Flying<br /> |ndex=291<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |level=61<br /> |gender=female<br /> |ability=Speed Boost<br /> |move1=Swords Dance<br /> |move1type=Normal<br /> |move1cat=Status<br /> |move2=Aerial Ace<br /> |move2type=Flying<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=X-Scissor<br /> |move3type=Bug<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Slash<br /> |move4type=Normal<br /> |move4cat=Physical<br /> }}<br /> |pokemon2={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |pokemon=Weavile<br /> |type1=Dark<br /> |type2=Ice<br /> |ndex=461<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |level=63<br /> |gender=female<br /> |spritegender=female<br /> |ability=Pressure<br /> |move1=Ice Punch<br /> |move1type=Ice<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Aerial Ace<br /> |move2type=Flying<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Night Slash<br /> |move3type=Dark<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Ice Shard<br /> |move4type=Ice<br /> |move4cat=Physical<br /> }}<br /> |pokemon3={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |pokemon=Electrode<br /> |type1=Electric<br /> |ndex=101<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |level=61<br /> |ability=Soundproof<br /> |move1=Double Team<br /> |move1type=Normal<br /> |move1cat=Status<br /> |move2=Thunder Wave<br /> |move2type=Electric<br /> |move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Thunder<br /> |move3type=Electric<br /> |move3cat=Special<br /> |move4=Hyper Beam<br /> |move4type=Normal<br /> |move4cat=Special<br /> }}<br /> |pokemon4={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |pokemon=Crobat<br /> |type1=Poison<br /> |type2=Flying<br /> |gender=female<br /> |ndex=169<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |level=62<br /> |ability=Inner Focus<br /> |move1=Double Team<br /> |move1type=Normal<br /> |move1cat=Status<br /> |move2=Confuse Ray<br /> |move2type=Ghost<br /> |move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Air Slash<br /> |move3type=Flying<br /> |move3cat=Special<br /> |move4=Poison Fang<br /> |move4type=Poison<br /> |move4cat=Physical<br /> }}<br /> |pokemon5={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |pokemon=Arcanine<br /> |type1=Fire<br /> |ndex=059<br /> |gender=male<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |level=65<br /> |ability=Intimidate<br /> |held=Sitrus Berry<br /> |move1=Flare Blitz<br /> |move1type=Fire<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=ExtremeSpeed<br /> |move2type=Normal<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Thunder Fang<br /> |move3type=Electric<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Crunch<br /> |move4type=Dark<br /> |move4cat=Physical<br /> }}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ====[[Buck]]====<br /> {{Party<br /> |color={{defense color}}<br /> |headcolor={{defense color light}}<br /> |bordercolor={{defense color dark}}<br /> |sprite=BuckPlatinum.gif‎<br /> |prize={{Pdollar}}7800<br /> |class=Pokémon Trainer<br /> |name=Buck<br /> |game=Pt<br /> |location=Battleground<br /> |pokemon=5<br /> |pokemon1={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=213<br /> |pokemon=Shuckle<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=61<br /> |ability=Sturdy<br /> |type1=Bug<br /> |type2=Rock<br /> |move1=Toxic<br /> |move1type=Poison<br /> |move1cat=Status<br /> |move2=Protect<br /> |move2type=Normal<br /> |move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Sandstorm<br /> |move3type=Rock<br /> |move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Rest<br /> |move4type=Psychic<br /> |move4cat=Status}}<br /> |pokemon2={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=197<br /> |pokemon=Umbreon<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=62<br /> |ability=Synchronize<br /> |type1=Dark<br /> |move1=Dark Pulse<br /> |move1type=Dark<br /> |move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Confuse Ray<br /> |move2type=Ghost<br /> |move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Double Team<br /> |move3type=Normal<br /> |move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Psychic<br /> |move4type=Psychic<br /> |move4cat=Special}}<br /> |pokemon3={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=477<br /> |pokemon=Dusknoir<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=63<br /> |ability=Pressure<br /> |type1=Ghost<br /> |move1=Fire Punch<br /> |move1type=Fire<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Ice Punch<br /> |move2type=Ice<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=ThunderPunch<br /> |move3type=Electric<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Shadow Ball<br /> |move4type=Ghost<br /> |move4cat=Special}}<br /> ||pokemon4={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=324<br /> |pokemon=Torkoal<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=61<br /> |ability=White Smoke<br /> |type1=Fire<br /> |move1=Protect<br /> |move1type=Normal<br /> |move1cat=Status<br /> |move2=Will-O-Wisp<br /> |move2type=Fire<br /> |move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Earthquake<br /> |move3type=Ground<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Eruption<br /> |move4type=Fire<br /> |move4cat=Special}}<br /> |pokemon5={{Pokémon/4<br /> |gen=4<br /> |game=Platinum<br /> |ndex=344<br /> |pokemon=Claydol<br /> |level=65<br /> |held=Sitrus Berry<br /> |ability=Levitate<br /> |type1=Ground<br /> |type2=Psychic<br /> |move1=Psychic<br /> |move1type=Psychic<br /> |move1cat=Special<br /> |move2=Earth Power<br /> |move2type=Ground<br /> |move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Calm Mind<br /> |move3type=Psychic<br /> |move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=AncientPower<br /> |move4type=Rock<br /> |move4cat=Special}}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> * Two groups of Trainers can be battled on one day by saving inside the Battleground the day before. Then, the {{player}} battles the Trainers, walks out, walks back in, and the Trainers have changed.<br /> ** If some of the Trainers have not changed, those Trainers will not be able to be rebattled.<br /> * During the time [[Gym Leader]]s appear here, they can still be found in their respective gyms and possibly also the [[Villa]]. This is probably due to the Battleground not being part of the main storyline; the game randomly determines which four characters can be challenged on any particular day.<br /> * [[Candice]] is the only Trainer to use [[Generation IV]] Pokémon only.<br /> * [[Maylene]], [[Crasher Wake]], and [[Marley]] are the only Trainers to use Pokémon from all four then-released generations.<br /> * All of the Trainers in the Battleground have Pokémon between levels 61 and 65, except for [[Maylene]], whose Pokémon are between levels 62 and 66. <br /> ** Maylene is also the only Trainer in the Battleground whose [[party]] does not consist of two level 61 Pokémon, one level 62 Pokémon, one level 63 Pokémon, and one level 65 Pokémon, instead consisting of two level 62 Pokémon, one level 63 Pokémon, one level 64 Pokémon, and one level 66 Pokémon.<br /> ** Maylene is the only Trainer without any Pokémon holding an item.<br /> ** Maylene also offers more prize money than any other Trainer in the Battleground. When the {{player}} defeats the other Trainers, he/she receives {{PDollar}}7,800, however beating Maylene earns the player {{PDollar}}7,920.<br /> * When both Roark and Byron appear at the same time, their after-battle dialog changes from what it normally would be; Roark tells the player that when he became a Gym Leader, he realized how great a Trainer his dad is, but that he would never admit it in front of his father. Byron talks to himself about how Roark thinks he can &quot;show up his old man&quot;, and that he, Byron, will need to get better to prevent that from happening.<br /> * A small graphical glitch occurs with the counter and TV on the right side of the room. When the {{player}} (or even an NPC) is next to either object, it can cause the colors to &quot;jump&quot; out of line.<br /> * Except for Maylene, all Trainers use a Pokémon holding a [[Sitrus Berry]].<br /> ====In other languages====<br /> *'''German:''' ''Duellareal''<br /> *'''Italian:''' ''Casa Lotta''<br /> *'''Spanish:''' ''Café Revancha''<br /> <br /> {{Project Locations notice}}<br /> [[Category:Sinnoh locations]]<br /> [[Category:Platinum locations]]<br /> [[Category:Buildings]]<br /> <br /> [[de:Duellareal]]<br /> [[fr:Café Combat]]<br /> [[ja:しょうぶどころ]]</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Defog_(move)&diff=1368854 2011-02-23T17:32:28Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* Trivia */</p> <hr /> <div>{{search|move Defog|the field move Demist|Field Move}}<br /> {{MoveInfobox|<br /> n=432 |<br /> name=Defog |<br /> jname=きりばらい |<br /> jtrans=Fog Wipe |<br /> desc=Obstacles are moved, reducing the foe's evasion stat. It can also be used to clear deep fog, etc. |<br /> gameimage=Defog.png |<br /> type=Flying |<br /> damagecategory=Status |<br /> basepp=15 |<br /> maxpp=24 |<br /> power=— |<br /> accuracy=— |<br /> bdesc=The foe's Evasion is reduced and fog is cleared. Also blows away foes' Reflect and Light Screen. |<br /> gen=IV |<br /> category=Beauty |<br /> appeal=2 |<br /> jam=0 |<br /> cdesc=Pokémon after self cannot raise any voltage in that turn |<br /> appealsc=2 |<br /> scdesc=Prevents the Voltage from going up in the same turn.|<br /> touches=no |<br /> protect=yes |<br /> magiccoat=yes |<br /> snatch=no |<br /> brightpowder=yes |<br /> kingsrock=no |<br /> flag7=no |<br /> flag8=no |<br /> sound=no |<br /> field=yes|<br /> hm4=yes|<br /> hm#4=05|<br /> na=no|<br /> target=any |<br /> footnotes= }}<br /> '''Defog''' (Japanese: '''きりばらい''' ''Fog Wipe'') is a non-damaging {{type2|Flying}} [[move]], introduced in [[Generation IV]]. It is [[HM05]] in {{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}, moving the traditional HM05, {{m|Flash}}, to [[TM70]]. However, in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, it loses its HM status in favor of {{m|Whirlpool}}.<br /> <br /> Defog cannot be used outside of battle without the [[Pastoria City Gym]] badge in {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}} and the [[Hearthome City Gym]] badge in {{v2|Platinum}}.<br /> <br /> ==Effect==<br /> ===In battle===<br /> ====Generation IV====<br /> Defog lowers the target's {{stat|Evasion}} one stage, even if the target is behind a {{m|Substitute}}. It clears away {{DL|weather conditions|fog}}. It also clears away {{m|Light Screen}}, {{m|Reflect}}, {{m|Safeguard}}, {{m|Mist}}, {{m|Spikes}}, {{m|Toxic Spikes}} and {{m|Stealth Rock}} present on the target's side of the field. <br /> <br /> ====Generation V====<br /> Defog can now be reflected with {{m|Magic Coat}} and no longer lowers the evasion of a Pokémon behind a {{m|Substitute}}.<br /> <br /> ===Out of battle===<br /> Defog clears away {{DL|weather conditions|fog}} from the area. The effect lasts until the {{player}} leaves the area.<br /> <br /> ==Learnset==<br /> ===[[Generation IV]]===<br /> ====By [[HM05]] ({{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}})====<br /> {{Learnlist/TM|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|006|Charizard|2|Fire|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|012|Butterfree|2|Bug|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|015|Beedrill|2|Bug|Poison}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|016|Pidgey|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|017|Pidgeotto|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|018|Pidgeot|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|021|Spearow|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|022|Fearow|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|041|Zubat|2|Poison|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|042|Golbat|2|Poison|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|049|Venomoth|2|Bug|Poison}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|083|Farfetch'd|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|123|Scyther|2|Bug|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|142|Aerodactyl|2|Rock|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|144|Articuno|2|Ice|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|145|Zapdos|2|Electric|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|146|Moltres|2|Fire|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|149|Dragonite|2|Dragon|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|151|Mew||Psychic}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|163|Hoothoot|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|164|Noctowl|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|169|Crobat|2|Poison|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|176|Togetic|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|178|Xatu|2|Psychic|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|193|Yanma|2|Bug|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|198|Murkrow|2|Dark|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|207|Gligar|2|Ground|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|212|Scizor|2|Bug|Steel}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|225|Delibird|2|Ice|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|226|Mantine|2|Water|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|227|Skarmory|2|Steel|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|249|Lugia|2|Psychic|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|250|Ho-Oh|2|Fire|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|267|Beautifly|2|Bug|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|269|Dustox|2|Bug|Poison}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|275|Shiftry|2|Grass|Dark}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|276|Taillow|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|277|Swellow|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|278|Wingull|2|Water|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|279|Pelipper|2|Water|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|284|Masquerain|2|Bug|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|291|Ninjask|2|Bug|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|329|Vibrava|2|Ground|Dragon}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|330|Flygon|2|Ground|Dragon}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|357|Tropius|2|Grass|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|373|Salamence|2|Dragon|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|380|Latias|2|Dragon|Psychic}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|381|Latios|2|Dragon|Psychic}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|393|Piplup||Water}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|394|Prinplup||Water}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|395|Empoleon|2|Water|Steel}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|396|Starly|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|397|Staravia|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|398|Staraptor|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|414|Mothim|2|Bug|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|416|Vespiquen|2|Bug|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|425|Drifloon|2|Ghost|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|426|Drifblim|2|Ghost|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|430|Honchkrow|2|Dark|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|434|Stunky|2|Poison|Dark}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|435|Skuntank|2|Poison|Dark}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|441|Chatot|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|456|Finneon||Water}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|457|Lumineon||Water}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|468|Togekiss|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|469|Yanmega|2|Bug|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|472|Gliscor|2|Ground|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon||Origin|Pt}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|493|Arceus||{{arceustype}}}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ===[[Generation V]]===<br /> ====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br /> {{Learnlist|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentry|580|Koaruhie|2|Water|Flying|6}}<br /> {{Moveentry|581|Swanna|2|Water|Flying|--&lt;br&gt;6}}<br /> {{Moveentry|627|Washibon|2|Normal|Flying|32}}<br /> {{Moveentry|628|Braviary|2|Normal|Flying|32}}<br /> {{Moveentry|629|Baruchai|2|Dark|Flying|32}}<br /> {{Moveentry|630|Barujiina|2|Dark|Flying|32}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br /> {{Breedlist|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentry|016|Pidgey|2|Normal|Flying|{{MSP|580|Koaruhie}}{{MSP|581|Swanna}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|627|Washibon}}{{MSP|628|Braviary}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|041|Zubat|2|Poison|Flying|{{MSP|580|Koaruhie}}{{MSP|581|Swanna}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|627|Washibon}}{{MSP|628|Braviary}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|123|Scyther|2|Bug|Flying|{{MSP|123|Scyther}}{{MSP|212|Scizor}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|163|Hoothoot|2|Normal|Flying|{{MSP|580|Koaruhie}}{{MSP|581|Swanna}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|627|Washibon}}{{MSP|628|Braviary}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|273|Seedot|1|Grass||{{MSP|275|Shiftry}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|276|Taillow|2|Normal|Flying|{{MSP|580|Koaruhie}}{{MSP|581|Swanna}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|627|Washibon}}{{MSP|628|Braviary}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|425|Drifloon|2|Ghost|Flying|{{MSP|425|Drifloon}}{{MSP|426|Drifblim}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|441|Chatot|2|Normal|Flying|{{MSP|580|Koaruhie}}{{MSP|581|Swanna}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|627|Washibon}}{{MSP|628|Braviary}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|566|Aaken|2|Rock|Flying|{{MSP|580|Koaruhie}}{{MSP|581|Swanna}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|627|Washibon}}{{MSP|628|Braviary}}}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}<br /> <br /> ==In the anime==<br /> {{moveanime|type=flying|gen=Obstacles are moved, reducing the foe's evasion stat. It can also be used to clear deep fog, etc.|image1=Honchkrow Defog 2.png|image1p=Honchkrow|image2=Honchkrow Defog 3.png|image2p=Outlined again|image3=Honchkrow Defog 1.png|image3p=Outlined wings|image4=Honchkrow Defog 4.png|image4p=Go for target}}<br /> {{movep|type=flying|ms=430|pkmn=Honchkrow|method=Honchkrow's wings become outlined in light blue. The outline disappears as it releases multiple light blue crescents by flapping its wings. Its wings then become outlined again as the crescents go for the target.}}<br /> {{movebtm|type=flying|user=Allegra|user1=Allegra's Honchkrow|startcode=M10|startname=The Rise of Darkrai|notes=Debut}}<br /> <br /> ==In the manga==<br /> ===Pokémon Adventures===<br /> {{movemanga|type=flying|exp=yes|gen=The user clears fog with air.|image1=Cyrus Honchkrow Defog Adventures.png|image1p=Honchkrow}}<br /> {{movep|type=flying|ms=430|pkmn=Honchkrow|method=Honchkrow waves its wing, clearing any fog near it.}}<br /> {{movebtmManga|type=flying|user=Cyrus|user1=Cyrus's Honchkrow|startcode=PS370|startname=VS Probopass and Magnezone III|notes=Debut}}<br /> <br /> ==In other generations==<br /> {{Movegen|<br /> type=flying|<br /> genIV=Defog IV.png|<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> * The bag sprite for the HM containing Defog is mistakenly that of a {{type2|Water}} HM, rather than a {{type2|Flying}} one.<br /> ** Coincidentally, it was replaced as an HM in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}} by the Water-type move, {{m|Whirlpool}}.<br /> * While it is not the first HM move to lose its status as one, Defog is the first HM move to lose its status before the end of a generation.<br /> * Like {{m|Flash}} was in Generations {{gen|I}}, {{gen|II}}, and {{gen|III}}, Defog is not actually critical to the completion of the game, as a player can traverse foggy areas without using the move. However, unlike with dark caves requiring Flash to light them, foggy areas affect battles within them, making Defog's use somewhat more convenient.<br /> * Before Defog's introduction, Ash would often use his [[Ash's Pidgeot|Pidgeotto's]] and [[Ash's Noctowl|Noctowl's]] [[Gust (move)|Gust]] or [[Whirlwind (move)|Whirlwind]], respectively, in a similar manner.<br /> * If one teaches a Pokémon that can only learn Defog by HM in {{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} and trades it to HeartGold and SoulSilver, they can freely be imported to {{2v2|Black|White}} via the [[Pokéshifter]], due to Defog not being needed outside of battle in Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver. [[Whirlpool (move)|Whirlpool]] has a simlar trick.<br /> <br /> ==In other languages==<br /> * Chinese: '''清除濃霧''' ''Qīngchú Nóngwù''<br /> * Dutch: '''Ontmist'''<br /> * French: '''Anti-Brume'''<br /> * German: '''Auflockern'''<br /> * Greek: '''Απονέφωση'''<br /> * Italian: '''Scacciabruma'''<br /> * Korean: '''안개제거''' ''Angaejegeo''<br /> * Portuguese (Brazilian): '''Desneblinar'''<br /> * Spanish: '''Despejar'''<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Generation IV TMs}}<br /> {{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}<br /> [[Category:Generation IV HM moves]]<br /> <br /> [[de:Auflockern]]<br /> [[fr:Anti-Brume]]<br /> [[it:Scacciabruma (mossa)]]<br /> [[ja:きりばらい]]<br /> [[pl:Defog]]<br /> [[pt:Defog]]</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Curse_(move)&diff=1344595 2011-02-04T23:34:03Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* Generation III */ removed the turtwig family</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!--Upgrade Learnlist--&gt;<br /> {{MoveInfobox|<br /> n=174 |<br /> name=Curse |<br /> jname=のろい |<br /> jtrans=Noroi |<br /> desc=A move that works differently for the Ghost type than for all the other types. |<br /> gameimage=Curse IV.png |<br /> type=Ghost |<br /> damagecategory=Status |<br /> basepp=10 |<br /> maxpp=16 |<br /> power=— |<br /> accuracy=— |<br /> bdesc={{t|Ghost}} Pokémon cut their HP by half to curse the foe, who will take ¼ their total HP in damage each turn. Non-Ghost Pokémon cut their Speed stat to raise both Attack and Defense. |<br /> gen=II |<br /> category=Tough |<br /> appeal=3 |<br /> jam=0 |<br /> cdesc=The next appeal can be made later next turn. |<br /> appealsc=0 |<br /> scdesc=Earn a higher score the later the Pokémon performs. |<br /> pokefordex=curse |<br /> tm2=yes |<br /> tm#2=03 |<br /> touches=no |<br /> protect=no |<br /> magiccoat=no |<br /> snatch=no |<br /> brightpowder=no |<br /> kingsrock=no |<br /> flag7=yes |<br /> flag8=no |<br /> sound=no |<br /> na=no |<br /> target=foe |<br /> footnotes= }}<br /> '''Curse''' (Japanese: '''のろい''' ''Noroi'') is a non-damaging {{type2|Ghost}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation II]]. Before [[Generation V]], it was a {{type2|???}} move, and the only move of that type.<br /> <br /> ==Effect==<br /> ===Generations II-IV===<br /> Curse is a {{type2|???}} move. When executing this move, the Ghost type takes priority over other types, so dual-typed Ghost-type Pokémon use the Ghost version of the move.<br /> <br /> ====Ghost-type Pokémon====<br /> The user will lose half of its maximum {{stat|HP}} and put a curse on the target. A cursed Pokémon will lose ¼ of its maximum HP at the end of each turn. The user can cause itself to faint.<br /> <br /> Also, in [[Generation II]], defeating the opponent will prevent the Pokémon it is used on taking damage from Curse on that turn.<br /> <br /> ====Non-Ghost-type Pokémon====<br /> The user's {{stat|Speed}} stat will drop by one stage and its {{stat|Attack}} stat and {{stat|Defense}} stat will rise by one stage each. Despite the move's stats boosting nature, it will fail if there is no target.<br /> <br /> ===Generation V===<br /> Curse is a {{type2|Ghost}} move. Its effects remain the same.<br /> <br /> ==Learnset==<br /> ===Generation II===<br /> ====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br /> {{Learnlist|???}}<br /> {{Moveentry|079|Slowpoke|2|Water|Psychic|--}}<br /> {{Moveentry|080|Slowbro|2|Water|Psychic|--}}<br /> {{Moveentry|092|Gastly|2|Ghost|Poison|16|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|093|Haunter|2|Ghost|Poison|16|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|094|Gengar|2|Ghost|Poison|16|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|199|Slowking|2|Water|Psychic|--}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ====By [[TM03]]====<br /> '''All''' Pokémon that can learn TMs in Generation II can learn Curse.<br /> <br /> ===[[Generation III]]===<br /> ====By leveling up====<br /> {{Learnlist|???}}<br /> {{Moveentry|079|Slowpoke|2|Water|Psychic|--}}<br /> {{Moveentry|080|Slowbro|2|Water|Psychic|--}}<br /> {{Moveentry|092|Gastly|2|Ghost|Poison|16|||RSE}}<br /> {{Moveentry|092|Gastly|2|Ghost|Poison|13|||FRLG}}<br /> {{Moveentry|093|Haunter|2|Ghost|Poison|16|||RSE}}<br /> {{Moveentry|093|Haunter|2|Ghost|Poison|13|||FRLG}}<br /> {{Moveentry|094|Gengar|2|Ghost|Poison|16|||RSE}}<br /> {{Moveentry|094|Gengar|2|Ghost|Poison|13|||FRLG}}<br /> {{Moveentry|199|Slowking|2|Water|Psychic|--}}<br /> {{Moveentry|324|Torkoal|1|Fire||7}}<br /> {{Moveentry|353|Shuppet|1|Ghost||20}}<br /> {{Moveentry|354|Banette|1|Ghost||--,20}}<br /> {{Moveentry|355|Duskull|1|Ghost||34}}<br /> {{Moveentry|356|Dusclops|1|Ghost||34}}<br /> {{Moveentry|377|Regirock|1|Rock||17}}<br /> {{Moveentry|378|Regice|1|Ice||17}}<br /> {{Moveentry|379|Registeel|1|Steel||17}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br /> {{Breedlist|???}}<br /> {{Moveentry|001|Bulbasaur|2|Grass|Poison|{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|041|Zubat|2|Poison|Flying|{{p|Farfetch'd}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Aerodactyl}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Skarmory}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|083|Farfetch'd|2|Normal|Flying|{{p|Torkoal}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|088|Grimer|1|Poison| |{{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Duskull}}, {{p|Dusclops}}, {{p|Dusknoir}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Gastly}}, {{p|Haunter}}, {{p|Gengar}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Spiritomb}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|108|Lickitung|1|Normal| |{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snorlax}}}}{{Moveentry|111|Rhyhorn|2|Ground|Rock|{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Torkoal}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|131|Lapras|2|Water|Ice|{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|133|Eevee|1|Normal| |{{p|Torkoal}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|142|Aerodactyl|2|Rock|Flying|{{p|Zubat}}, {{p|Golbat}}, {{p|Crobat}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Farfetch'd}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Skarmory}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|143|Snorlax|1|Normal| |{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|191|Sunkern|1|Grass| |{{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Ivysaur}}, {{p|Venusaur}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Exeggcute}}, {{p|Exeggutor}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|194|Wooper|2|Water|Ground|{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Farfetch'd}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Rhyhorn}}, {{p|Rhydon}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Eevee}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Dunsparce}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Swinub}}, {{p|Piloswine}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Slakoth}}, {{p|Vigoroth}}, {{p|Slaking}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Electrike}}, {{p|Manectric}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Wailmer}}, {{p|Wailord}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Torkoal}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Zangoose}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Absol}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Spheal}}, {{p|Sealeo}}, {{p|Walrein}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|206|Dunsparce|1|Normal| |{{p|Torkoal}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|227|Skarmory|2|Steel|Flying|{{p|Zubat}}, {{p|Golbat}}, {{p|Crobat}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Farfetch'd}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Aerodactyl}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|241|Miltank|1|Normal| |{{p|Torkoal}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|246|Larvitar|2|Rock|Ground|{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|258|Mudkip|1|Water| |{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|287|Slakoth|1|Normal| |{{p|Torkoal}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|309|Electrike|1|Electric| |{{p|Torkoal}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|320|Wailmer|1|Water| |{{p|Torkoal}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|335|Zangoose|1|Normal| |{{p|Farfetch'd}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Rhyhorn}}, {{p|Rhydon}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Eevee}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Wooper}}, {{p|Quagsire}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Dunsparce}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Swinub}}, {{p|Piloswine}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Slakoth}}, {{p|Vigoroth}}, {{p|Slaking}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Electrike}}, {{p|Manectric}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Wailmer}}, {{p|Wailord}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Torkoal}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Absol}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Spheal}}, {{p|Sealeo}}, {{p|Walrein}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|358|Chimecho|1|Psychic| |{{p|Grimer}}, {{p|Muk}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Gastly}}, {{p|Haunter}}, {{p|Gengar}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Koffing}}, {{p|Weezing}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Misdreavus}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Slugma}}, {{p|Magcargo}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Gulpin}}, {{p|Swalot}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Duskull}}, {{p|Dusclops}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|359|Absol|1|Dark| |{{p|Farfetch'd}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Rhyhorn}}, {{p|Rhydon}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Eevee}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Wooper}}, {{p|Quagsire}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Dunsparce}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Swinub}}, {{P|Piloswine}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Slakoth}}, {{p|Vigoroth}}, {{p|Slaking}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Electrike}}, {{p|Manectric}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Wailmer}}, {{p|Wailord}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Torkoal}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Zangoose}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Spheal}}, {{p|Sealeo}}, {{p|Walrein}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|363|Spheal|2|Ice|Water|{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Farfetch'd}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Rhyhorn}}, {{p|Rhydon}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Eevee}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Wooper}}, {{p|Quagsire}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Dunsparce}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Swinub}}, {{p|Piloswine}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Slakoth}}, {{p|Vigoroth}}, {{p|Slaking}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Electrike}}, {{p|Manectric}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Wailmer}}, {{p|Wailord}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Torkoal}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Zangoose}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Absol}}}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}<br /> <br /> ===[[Generation IV]]===<br /> ====By leveling up====<br /> {{Learnlist|???}}<br /> {{Moveentry|079|Slowpoke|2|Water|Psychic|--}}<br /> {{Moveentry|080|Slowbro|2|Water|Psychic|--}}<br /> {{Moveentry|092|Gastly|2|Ghost|Poison|12}}<br /> {{Moveentry|093|Haunter|2|Ghost|Poison|13}}<br /> {{Moveentry|094|Gengar|2|Ghost|Poison|13}}<br /> {{Moveentry|095|Onix|2|Rock|Ground|38|||PtHGSS}}<br /> {{Moveentry|199|Slowking|2|Water|Psychic|--}}<br /> {{Moveentry|208|Steelix|2|Steel|Ground|38|||PtHGSS}}<br /> {{Moveentry|324|Torkoal|1|Fire| |12}}<br /> {{Moveentry|353|Shuppet|1|Ghost| |13}}<br /> {{Moveentry|354|Banette|1|Ghost| |--}}<br /> {{Moveentry|354|Banette|1|Ghost| |13}}<br /> {{Moveentry|355|Duskull|1|Ghost| |30}}<br /> {{Moveentry|356|Dusclops|1|Ghost| |30}}<br /> {{Moveentry|377|Regirock|1|Rock| |17}}<br /> {{Moveentry|378|Regice|1|Ice| |17}}<br /> {{Moveentry|379|Registeel|1|Steel| |17}}<br /> {{Moveentry|387|Turtwig|1|Grass| |17}}<br /> {{Moveentry|388|Grotle|1|Grass| |17}}<br /> {{Moveentry|389|Torterra|2|Grass|Ground|17}}<br /> {{Moveentry|399|Bidoof|1|Normal| |45|||PtHGSS}}<br /> {{Moveentry|400|Bibarel|2|Normal|Water|53|||PtHGSS}}<br /> {{Moveentry|442|Spiritomb|2|Ghost|Dark|--}}<br /> {{Moveentry|477|Dusknoir|1|Ghost| |30}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ====By breeding====<br /> {{Breedlist|???}}<br /> {{Moveentry|001|Bulbasaur|2|Grass|Poison|{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|041|Zubat|2|Poison|Flying|{{p|Farfetch'd}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Aerodactyl}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Skarmory}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|074|Geodude|2|Rock|Ground|{{p|Onix}}, {{p|Steelix}}|||HGSS}}<br /> {{Moveentry|083|Farfetch'd|2|Normal|Flying|{{p|Torkoal}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|088|Grimer|1|Poison| |{{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Duskull}}, {{p|Dusclops}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Gastly}}, {{p|Haunter}}, {{p|Gengar}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|102|Exeggcute|2|Grass|Psychic|{{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Ivysaur}}, {{p|Venusaur}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Sunkern}}, {{p|Sunflora}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|108|Lickitung|1|Normal| |{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|109|Koffing|1|Poison| |{{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Duskull}}, {{p|Dusclops}}, {{p|Dusknoir}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Gastly}}, {{p|Haunter}}, {{p|Gengar}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Spiritomb}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|111|Rhyhorn|2|Ground|Rock|{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Torkoal}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|131|Lapras|2|Water|Ice|{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|133|Eevee|1|Normal| |{{p|Torkoal}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|142|Aerodactyl|2|Rock|Flying|{{p|Zubat}}, {{p|Golbat}}, {{p|Crobat}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Farfetch'd}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Skarmory}}||*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|143|Snorlax|1|Normal| |{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|191|Sunkern|1|Grass| |{{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|194|Wooper|2|Water|Ground|{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Farfetch'd}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Rhyhorn}}, {{p|Rhydon}}, {{p|Rhyperior}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Eevee}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Dunsparce}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Swinub}}, {{p|Piloswine}}, {{p|Mamoswine}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Slakoth}}, {{p|Vigoroth}}, {{p|Slaking}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Electrike}}, {{p|Manectric}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Wailmer}}, {{p|Wailord}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Torkoal}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Zangoose}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Absol}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Spheal}}, {{p|Sealeo}}, {{p|Walrein}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Hippopotas}}, {{p|Hippowdon}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|200|Misdreavus|1|Ghost| |{{p|Gastly}}, {{p|Haunter}}, {{p|Gengar}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Duskull}}, {{p|Dusclops}}, {{p|Dusknoir}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Spiritomb}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|206|Dunsparce|1|Normal| |{{p|Torkoal}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|218|Slugma|1|Fire| |{{p|Gastly}}, {{p|Haunter}}, {{p|Gengar}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Duskull}}, {{p|Dusclops}}, {{p|Dusknoir}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Spiritomb}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|220|Swinub|2|Ice|Ground|{{p|Farfetch'd}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Rhyhorn}}, {{p|Rhydon}}, {{p|Rhyperior}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Eevee}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Wooper}}, {{p|Quagsire}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Dunsparce}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Slakoth}}, {{p|Vigoroth}}, {{p|Slaking}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Electrike}}, {{p|Manectric}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Wailmer}}, {{p|Wailord}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Torkoal}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Zangoose}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Absol}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Spheal}}, {{p|Sealeo}}, {{p|Walrein}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Hippopotas}}, {{p|Hippowdon}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|222|Corsola|2|Water|Rock|{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Bidoof}}, {{p|Bibarel}}|||HGSS}}<br /> {{Moveentry|227|Skarmory|2|Steel|Flying|{{p|Zubat}}, {{p|Golbat}}, {{p|Crobat}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Farfetch'd}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Aerodactyl}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|241|Miltank|1|Normal| |{{p|Torkoal}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|246|Larvitar|2|Rock|Ground|{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|258|Mudkip|1|Water| |{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|287|Slakoth|1|Normal| |{{p|Torkoal}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|304|Aron|2|Steel|Rock|{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|309|Electrike|1|Electric| |{{p|Torkoal}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|316|Gulpin|1|Poison| |{{p|Gastly}}, {{p|Haunter}}, {{p|Gengar}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Duskull}}, {{p|Dusclops}}, {{p|Dusknoir}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Spiritomb}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|320|Wailmer|1|Water| |{{p|Torkoal}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|335|Zangoose|1|Normal| |{{p|Farfetch'd}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Rhyhorn}}, {{p|Rhydon}}, {{p|Rhyperior}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Eevee}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Wooper}}, {{p|Quagsire}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Dunsparce}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Swinub}}, {{p|Piloswine}}, {{p|Mamoswine}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Slakoth}}, {{p|Vigoroth}}, {{p|Slaking}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Electrike}}, {{p|Manectric}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Wailmer}}, {{p|Wailord}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Torkoal}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Absol}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Spheal}}, {{p|Sealeo}}, {{p|Walrein}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Hippopotas}}, {{p|Hippowdon}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|345|Lileep|2|Rock|Grass|{{p|Corsola}}||*|HGSS}}<br /> {{Moveentry|347|Anorith|2|Rock|Bug|{{p|Corsola}}||*|HGSS}}<br /> {{Moveentry|357|Tropius|2|Grass|Flying|{{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Ivysaur}}, {{p|Venusaur}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Lickitung}}, {{p|Lickilicky}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Rhyhorn}}, {{p|Rhydon}}, {{p|Rhyperior}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Lapras}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snorlax}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Larvitar}}, {{p|Pupitar}}, {{p|Tyranitar}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Mudkip}}, {{p|Marshtomp}}, {{p|Swampert}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Aron}}, {{p|Lairon}}, {{p|Aggron}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Shieldon}}, {{p|Bastiodon}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|358|Chimecho|1|Psychic| |{{p|Grimer}}, {{p|Muk}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Gastly}}, {{p|Haunter}}, {{p|Gengar}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Koffing}}, {{p|Weezing}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Misdreavus}}, {{p|Mismagius}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Slugma}}, {{p|Magcargo}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Gulpin}}, {{p|Swalot}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Duskull}}, {{p|Dusclops}}, {{p|Dusknoir}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Shellos}}, {{p|Gastrodon}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Spiritomb}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|359|Absol|1|Dark| |{{p|Farfetch'd}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Rhyhorn}}, {{p|Rhydon}}, {{p|Rhyperior}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Eevee}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Wooper}}, {{p|Quagsire}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Dunsparce}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Swinub}}, {{P|Piloswine}}, {{p|Mamoswine}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Slakoth}}, {{p|Vigoroth}}, {{p|Slaking}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Electrike}}, {{p|Manectric}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Wailmer}}, {{p|Wailord}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Torkoal}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Zangoose}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Spheal}}, {{p|Sealeo}}, {{p|Walrein}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Hippopotas}}, {{p|Hippowdon}}}}<br /> 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This is fitting with its nature in the games, being an actual curse if used by Ghost-type Pokémon, but instead lowering the Speed of a non-Ghost-type Pokémon. This is likely also why the {{p|Slowpoke}} family is just as well known for the move as Ghost-type Pokémon are.<br /> * In [[Generation II]], three Pokémon could legitimately use both effects of the move by using {{m|Conversion}} or {{m|Conversion 2}} to alter its own type to and from the {{t|Ghost}} type: {{p|Porygon}}, {{p|Porygon2}}, and {{p|Smeargle}}. Many Pokémon can make use of {{m|Skill Swap}} or {{m|Role Play}} to copy the ability {{a|Color Change}} and become a Ghost-type to pull off the strategy as well.<br /> * Curse is one of five moves to change type between Generations, along with {{m|Bite}}, {{m|Gust}}, {{m|Karate Chop}} and {{m|Sand-Attack}}.<br /> **Of these moves, Curse is the only move which did not originate from [[Generation I]] and change in [[Generation II]] and the only move which wasn't initially a {{type2|Normal}} move.<br /> * In [[Generation II]], [[TM03]] is given away by a strange man telling a weird story: &lt;br&gt;<br /> ''&quot;Let me recount a terrifying tale... Once upon a time, there was a little boy who was given a new Bicycle... He wanted to try it right away... He was having so much fun that he didn't notice the sun had set... While riding home in the pitch-black night, the bike suddenly slowed! The pedals became heavy! When he stopped pedaling, the bike began slipping backwards! It was as if the bike were cursed and trying to drag him into oblivion! ... ... Shrieeeek! The boy had been riding uphill on Cycling Road! ... Ba-dum ba-dum! For listening so patiently, you may take this—TM03! TM03 is Curse. It's a terrifying move that slowly whittles down the victim's HP.&quot;''<br /> <br /> ==In other languages==<br /> * French: '''Malédiction'''<br /> * German: '''Fluch'''<br /> * Greek: '''Κατάρα'''<br /> * Italian: '''Maledizione'''<br /> * Korean: '''저주''' ''Jeoju''<br /> * Spanish: '''Maldición'''<br /> * Serbian: '''Kletva'''<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Generation II TMs}}<br /> {{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}<br /> <br /> [[de:Fluch]]<br /> [[fr:Malédiction]]<br /> [[ja:のろい]]<br /> [[pt:Curse]]</div>

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<p>EzekielMaple: Undo revision 1312680 by EzekielMaple (talk)</p> <hr /> <div>OOps. [[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 01:45, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Should this be listed under Pokémon Breeding or simply Breeding? -[[user:greengiant|greengiant]]<br /> <br /> Probably Poke breeding with a redirect from &quot;breeding&quot;<br /> <br /> A picture says more than tousand words<br /> <br /> == Strange Breeding: How did these things happen? ==<br /> <br /> A couple of strange things happened to me when I was breeding a male Blaziken with a female Phanpy (which is strange enough in itself, I guess)<br /> #When the egg hatched, the Phanpy knew Rock Smash. This shouldn't have been able to happen because I had previously deleted Rock Smash from Blaziken via the Move Deleter guy. <br /> #The Phanpy hatched holding a PP Up! Needless to say, I was thrilled, but is there any reason for this occurance? Is it random or predictable?<br /> Thanks a lot &amp;rarr;[[User:Evin290|Evin290]] 12:18, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I don;t know about the first, but I believe the second is because of Phanphy's ability &quot;Pickup&quot;.--[[User:Skully Collins|Skully Collins]] 08:42, 5 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Yeah the PP Up is definetly a result of the pick-up. As for the rock smash, no clue. --[[User:Blaziken=Tahu|Blaziken=Tahu]] 02:58, 29 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Could be something intentional. I would assume that Phanpy could learn Strength if you taught that to Blaziken then removed it. [[User:Learner4|Learner4]] 20:26, 24 November 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Im actually thinking that Phanphy can learn Rock Smash, so if Blaziken knew it then there are still &quot;reminints&quot; of Rock Smash there, as shown by the move relearner guy. Maybe when the breeding happened the data some how got mixed and BAM, you have a Phanphy that knows Rock Smash. Did you use any cheats (earlier on) at all?--[[User:Sorou|sorou]] 17:11, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Abilities ==<br /> I have seen, and the D/P Nintendo power guide states that, you can pass on abilities via breeding. This would be important to note, wouldn't it? It seems like something that big should be listed. Especially when you consider the possibilities! (I personally love my wonder-guarded sableye) Also, I think this should possibly be noted in the &quot;chain breeding&quot; section as well.<br /> --[[User:TheCakeIsALie|TheCakeIsALie]] 02:51, 7 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> True. Good eye. You may place it in the article in the appropriate place. And don't forget your sig or people won't know who you are.&lt;span style=&quot;background:#11FF6C;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;&quot;&gt;{{ani|486}}&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background:#00FFFF;&quot;&gt;[[User:Pokemaniac102|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A0C0F8;&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;big&gt;'''''Poke'''''&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A0C0F8;&quot;&gt;'''''Maniac'''''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A0C0F8;&quot;&gt;&lt;sub&gt;&lt;big&gt;'''''102'''''&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background:#11FF6C;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;&quot;&gt;{{ani|492}}&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; 06:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :No! Abilities are NOT PASSED ON. By Abilities they meant Natures. Go on, try it. ABILITIES CANNOT BE PASSED ON. &lt;span style=&quot;background:#FF9030&quot;&gt;'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|155|Fire echy}}&lt;span style=&quot;background:#664444&quot;&gt;[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD700&quot;&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E0E0E0&quot;&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;DS!&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;/span&gt; 06:45, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Plus, the only Pokémon with Wonder Guard can't breed with anything but Ditto, so it'd never pass it on to Sableye. If you got that thing in a trade, it's hacked, man. &lt;span style=&quot;background:#FF9030&quot;&gt;'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|155|Fire echy}}&lt;span style=&quot;background:#664444&quot;&gt;[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD700&quot;&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E0E0E0&quot;&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;DS!&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;/span&gt; 06:51, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Crap, thanks for pointing that out. Dang... But on another note, you CAN pass abilities legitimately, but I misread: they are passed along by the mother, so it would stay in the proper species. (the example given in NP's guide is 2 bibarel breed. Mother has Simple, father has Unaware, so offspring is a Bidoof with Simple.) So I was halfway right, but again, thanks for poiinting that out. I guess I ought to not use it much then, huh?--[[User:TheCakeIsALie|TheCakeIsALie]] 02:51, 7 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I just did a test run breeding two Kadabras, both with the ability [[Inner Focus (ability)|Inner Focus]]. They successfully bred an Abra with the ability [[Synchronize (ability)|Synchronize]]. This proves that, at least for HeartGold, ability is ''not'' passed down by either parent. --[[User:Kerrick|Kerrick]] 17:23, 22 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I can't actually PROVE this, but in my experience, the Everstone seems to have a similar effect on Abilities to the one it has on Natures. So, assuming that the mother is not a Ditto, and there is a chance between the two Abilities, and the mother is holding an Everstone, there appears to be a better than 50% chance that the child will have the same ability. I have no idea how to formally prove this, but if someone could either explain to me how to prove it, or simply look into it themselves, it would be appreciated.--[[User:Xatu|Xatu]] 03:49, 24 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Tauros &amp; Miltank ==<br /> <br /> Can anybody confirm for certain that their eggs are supposed to be 50% Tauros and 50% Miltank? I've personally hatched 11 eggs from a Tauros and a Ditto, and all of them were Tauros, which means I must be exceptionally unlucky if half of them are supposed to be Miltank. FYI, I'm playing Diamond where Miltank are rarer than Tauros (the opposite is true in Pearl). I thought it would be easier to breed a Miltank than catch one. [[User:Drapion|Drapion]] 17:28, 11 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I think the 50-50 chance thing is only if you breed a Miltank with Ditto; all of Tauros's kids with Ditto will be Tauros. [[User:Fsilone|Fsilone]] 22:29, 6 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :There is no way in any of the games for Tauros to hatch from a Miltank egg, or for Miltank to hatch from a Tauros egg. MorningStar edited this page with a note indicating otherwise as early as in March 2006, which is to say without knowledge of Diamond and Pearl. I believe no one bothered to fix it then due to the possibility of that holding true in the upcoming games, and since their release everyone has assumed the statement to be true because it was on the page so early on. Regardless of the reason, this note should have long been removed; it is easy to verify that even when breeding Miltank and Tauros ''together'' in the latest games, the product is still always a Miltank. I have done so for the sake of being on the safe side. [[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 13:30, 8 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I've changed this section of the page. I can confirm empirically (hatched 41 eggs: 28 from a Miltank + Ditto, 13 from a Miltank + various Ground-group Pokes) that you cannot hatch a Tauros from a Miltank egg in Pokemon Pearl, and I assume the same goes for Diamond; based on Unown Lord's comments I am assuming this applies to all the games. If it turns out you can, then feel free to revert the page - I haven't hacked the code, this is entirely based on testing, so it's possibly that I was ''extremely'' unlucky and happened to get 41 eggs that all hatched Miltank purely by chance, but I think that's unlikely.<br /> <br /> ::The only sources I can find online that support the Miltank/Tauros breeding line are either questionable (user FAQs on the Marriland forum that contain other errors) or based on this site. [[User:Castorquinn|Castorquinn]] 22:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ditto + Ditto? ==<br /> <br /> Someone settle something for me: Can you breed Ditto with Ditto? - [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]]<br /> <br /> No. I tried. - [[User:MacGyver|MacGyver]]<br /> <br /> Thanks. *notices the Discussion page for Ditto and wonders why he didn't look there in the first place*. - [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]]<br /> <br /> Then how are there wild ditto if they can't breed together?<br /> Do they spontaneously appear or something? [[User:Chuck67322|Chuck67322]] 05:14, 4 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Ditto looks like a big pile of goo, maybe over time they split in half like bacteria. [[User:Darkcloud1111|Darkcloud1111]] 00:57, 17 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Technical Question ==<br /> <br /> Do the natures of the parents make any difference on whether or not they will produce an egg? I'm trying to get my Dragonite to give Outrage to a new Gible, and the old man in Solaceon says they don't like eachother at all... Obviously that's not good, but why, and what can I do to change it?<br /> :At all? ..are you sure you're breeding a Dragonite with a &lt;s&gt;complete haxxmacheen&lt;/s&gt; Garchomp? Cause I do believeth that Garchomp and Dragonite can breed. o_o; {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;n&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]]{{Ani|380}}&lt;/sup&gt; 04:07, 8 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Not at all? You sure? Pretty much always when they're in the same egg group, they'll breed. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;TTE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 05:42, 8 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I have had similar problems. Sometimes I always make sure to check the Egg Groups before I attempt breeding, but every once in a while, the Daycare Man in Diamond tells me that they dislike each other. (oops, forgot to sign) --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 05:09, 16 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> There's no problem at all, peeps! If 'They don't like each other very much' it doesn't matter! AS long as they don't totally despise each other that's okay. I tried Ditto with my Lucario (TTE said it would work) and it worked altough they didn't like each other! [[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033&quot;&gt;A&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#003366&quot;&gt;g&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#215670&quot;&gt;e&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#006699&quot;&gt;n&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2D6E89&quot;&gt;t&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Optimus35|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0066CC&quot;&gt;#&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3D81EE&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#66B5FF&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#99C9FF&quot;&gt;8&lt;/span&gt;]]''' &lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&amp;title=Special%3AContributions&amp;contribs=user&amp;target=Optimus35&amp;namespace=0&amp;year=&amp;month=-1 &lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;] | [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZPMmUEHFIU &lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;[[Image:Ani282MS.gif]] 09:52, 16 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Why do I feel compelled to respond to this comment by saying &quot;Rape!&quot;[[User:Mystrich|Mystrich]] 06:06, 24 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The message “They don´t seem to like each other much.” indicates that the Pokémon are of different species but have the same trainer IDs, which means that out of all breedable Pokémon pairs, they have the lowest chance of producing an egg. This lower chance translates to a statistically longer period of waiting until the Daycare man hands you the egg, but nothing beyond that. [[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 10:25, 16 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I think it means that it's sort of like when two people pretend to hate each other but they really love each other but don't know it themselves. Eventually they find what they have in common and fall in love. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] &lt;sup&gt;([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:24, 1 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> == Question ==<br /> <br /> &quot;However, there are two pairs of Pokémon species where the male and female are treated as different Pokémon. In these cases, the egg may hatch into either the male or female species:<br /> <br /> *[[Nidoran♀ (Pokémon)|Nidoran♀]] and [[Nidoran♂ (Pokémon)|Nidoran♂]]<br /> *[[Illumise (Pokémon)|Illumise]] and [[Volbeat (Pokémon)|Volbeat]]&quot;<br /> <br /> Would this also be true in the case of Tauros and Miltank? Could a Miltank have an egg containing Tauros? Just asking cause it's not listed in the article. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0005CD;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;]][[Tracey Sketchit|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#15E200;&quot;&gt;ケンジ&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DC0062;&quot;&gt;ガール&lt;/span&gt;]] 10:17, 18 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Would it be true to say that only the female can lay and egg that could be either? I tried breeding a Nidoran♂ with a Ditto to get a [[Nidoran♀ (Pokémon)|♀]] but I just ended up with a dozen [[Nidoran♂ (Pokémon)|♂]]s. I did succesfully get a [[Volbeat (Pokémon)|Volbeat]] from an [[Illumise (Pokémon)|Illumise]]. <br /> Oh, and [[Tauros (Pokémon)|Tauros]] and [[Miltank (Pokémon)|Miltank]] are also linked.. &lt;span style=&quot;color:#009966;&quot;&gt;[[User:Woodland Mudkip|Woodland Mudkip]] ☆{{MS|001|Bulbasaur}}&lt;/span&gt; 11:02, 18 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Your first assertion is correct, and has thus been added to the page. As noted in a paragraph above by myself, Tauros and Miltank are simply not linked. It seems to me that the disillusion of not having a calf-like Pokémon as a pre-evolution to both, has caused a multitude of fans to believe in some fabricated indication that one is forthcoming. [[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 06:24, 22 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == TMs ==<br /> <br /> Can you pass down TM moves that weren't learned by TM? I'm going to breed my male Banette with Will-O-Wisp (Learned naturally) with a female Drifloon, and I'm wondering if it'll pass down Will-O-Wisp... {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;n&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe &lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7BBD;&quot;&gt;δ&lt;/span&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 20:10, 25 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Yep. It's what I do so as to save TMs from being used. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;TTE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 23:47, 25 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Languages ==<br /> <br /> Is this encyclopedia in American English or Commonwealth English? Becuase the most recent edit was from &quot;travelling&quot; to &quot;traveling&quot;, or Commonwealth to American.<br /> <br /> Yea, we're American (well, I think. Ask and admin. I'm pretty sure we're American English). --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7F00&quot;&gt;Theryguy&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 12:03, 5 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah, I as actually gonna do something else on the page after editing that (since Firefox does the red line under words that aren't in its dictionary), but I got distracted by something else and just decided &quot;eh.&quot;<br /> :But really, Bulbapedia's got contributors from all over. Though, well, American spelling's used in the games throughout their English release, as far as I know. They don't go through all the text changing the spelling of a few words, and I certainly didn't intend for my edit to be just that. It was more just &quot;hey, look, red line. Fix that and... um... what else was I gonna do?&quot; &lt;span style=&quot;background:#FF9030&quot;&gt;'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|155|Fire echy}}&lt;span style=&quot;background:#664444&quot;&gt;[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD700&quot;&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E0E0E0&quot;&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;DS!&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;/span&gt; 16:47, 5 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Inbreeding ==<br /> <br /> What is it? {{ani|493}}'''&lt;sc&gt;[[User:Optimus35|&lt;span class=&quot;explain&quot; title=&quot;&lt;nowiki&gt;Optimus35, to be exact...&gt;.&gt;;;;&lt;/nowiki&gt;&quot;&gt;Optimatum&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sc&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]&lt;/sup&gt;{{{1|11:19 13 Mar 2008}}}'''<br /> :...Don't ask. You don't wanna know. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:40, 28 March 2008 (UTC)<br /> Inbreeding is when closely related individuals mate and have children. It's very taboo in human culture but animal breeders do this with certain breeds of an animal, like dogs. It's not a good idea for people inbreed because recessive genes could be more pronounced and genetic defects can occur. - PDL<br /> :Told ya you didn't wanna know. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:25, 2 May 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::The PRima Games guide states that inbreeding is impossible in Emerald. Proves that you can't trust Prima. '''[[User:Optimatum|&lt;span class=&quot;explain&quot; title=&quot;Optimus35&quot;&gt;&lt;sc&gt;Θρtιmαtum♏&lt;/sc&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]&lt;/sub&gt;''13:12 5 Sep 2008'''''<br /> <br /> ::Well you can in the games, I'm Inbreeding all my Pokémon that I bead in the first place. [[User:Random Chaos|&lt;font color=&quot;Gold&quot;&gt;Random&lt;/font&gt;]] [[User talk:Random Chaos|&lt;font color=&quot;Silver&quot;&gt;Chaos&lt;/font&gt;]] [[User:Random Chaos/Sandbox|&lt;font color=&quot;Cyan&quot;&gt;Was here&lt;/font&gt;]][http://chaos-shepherd.deviantart.com/ ☃] 01:07, 17 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Uhh yeah ==<br /> <br /> Uhm. This is weird, but i've had two weird things happen with breeding that make little sense. Like, first, this happened today, i put my Shieldon and Cranidos in the day-care (one female, the other male) and the old man said &quot;These two prefer too play with other Pokémon&quot; and i like, i came back too get them and they'd had an egg, and last time i checked, &quot;They prefer too play with other Pokémon&quot; meant they weren't going too have an egg (i took the egg anyway). Uhm, the second thing, which is really weird, happened a few months ago on my Pokémon Emerald, i put my male Charizard and male Blaziken in the Daycare (cos i'm too lazy too train them myself) ...and they had an egg |: Last time i checked, Guy + Guy does not = baby/egg |: I'm 100% sure they we're both male. I was pretty sure it was just a glitch in the game, but i was wondering if it's happened too anyone else? (also, the egg was a normal Torchic, normal stats, normal moves, nothing weird/glitch-y about it)<br /> <br /> ~ [[user:takoto|Takoto]]<br /> <br /> Wow... That's really weird [[User:Darkmaster0|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#BBBBBB;&quot;&gt;Darkmaster&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Darkmaster0|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#AAAAAA;&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt;]]<br /> <br /> : Obviously {{MS|006|Charizard}} and {{MS|257|Blaziken}} adopted. I guess they don't mind adoption by same-sex couples in Sinnoh. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 00:35, 8 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::The thing that happened with Charizard and Blaziken happened on Emerald (: If they adopted, where did they adopt from? O: [[user:Takoto|Takoto]]<br /> <br /> <br /> |: It happened, again, only this time; Leafgreen. Someone please tell me that Umbreon and Caterpie are somehow in the same egg group. Scratch what i said earlier, I'm almost sure that the Blaziken/Charizard thing happened on LeafGreen, not Emerald |: *totally remembered after i posted that xD Uh soooo yeah, i think the Breeding's glitch'd up in my LeafGreen...Well, it wasn't even originally mine, it was my Cousins |: But I'm sure he didn't cheat or anything too make every Pokémon breed with every other Pokémon. Plus i did some test; i tried too breed some Pokémon and they didn't breed, the Legendaries didn't (I actually wanted a level 5 Mewtwo xD at one point) But yeah \: Is my games breeding system glitched up or is it just....oddities? [[User:Takoto|Takoto]] 15:35, 29 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::I would say you somehow glitched your game. Been using AR/GS/whatever? '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 16:52, 29 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::*Shake head* I've never used Action reply or Game shark on my Leafgreen...<br /> <br /> ==Length of time to breed==<br /> After getting frustrated by the time it took to breed on my old silver version, I looked around for information on how long it takes two pokemon to have an egg, and I found [http://www.angelfire.com/wizard/rossos_pokemon/breeding.html this site]. This is information I think bulbapedia needs. The problem is, I don't have any other sources on it, it doesn't say if the formula holds true for later Gens as well, and the author admits that his numbers are estimates. Does anyone know anything about this topic? [[User:Cheesus Is Lord|Cheesus Is Lord]] 22:09, 24 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Female Eevees ==<br /> <br /> Hi I've tried to breed my Eevee several times but everytime time I do I get male Eevees and I kinda wanna have a female one, I was wondering if there's any way to force an egg to hatch into a female pokemon r something, I've tried hatching it in Foarama town like I read somewhere but that didnt work..<br /> Having said that I did get a female Eevee once but it was very random<br /> :12.5% chance of getting female Eevee. You were just unlucky. '''[[User:Optimatum|&lt;span class=&quot;explain&quot; title=&quot;Optimus35&quot;&gt;&lt;sc&gt;Θρtιmαtum♏&lt;/sc&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]&lt;/sub&gt;''13:14 5 Sep 2008'''''<br /> <br /> == Multiple eggs ==<br /> <br /> I've been hatching several eggs at a time (getting three eggs, storing the parents, and then running up and down), and the number of steps in between hatches is always a multiple of 255, with 510 as the minimum (recent numbers are 510 and 1275). The steps between picking up the eggs are as low as 256, and I was carrying around Camerupt with Magma Armor. The numbers don't make sense unless there's some delay added to the other eggs when picking up eggs or hatching them, or some other weird hidden factor. Game is Pearl, by the way, and I've been using a Mach Bike. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 04:55, 16 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Tutored moves ==<br /> <br /> Can they be passed on to children like [[TM]] moves? I know I tried it once, but I can't remember the result. Anybody know for certain? Either way, whether it works or not, it should probably be mentioned in this article or [[move tutor]] (or both). [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 13:42, 22 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I don't think they can unless they're egg moves (Outrage from Salamence to baby Charmander) or shared by both father and child, the child's in its level-up set, while the mother also knows it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:39, 22 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::Off the top of my head, I believe that it's possible in {{v2|Crystal}}, but '''only''' in Crystal. At least, that's what I remember, maybe I should double-check this for myself though... --[[User:Blaziken257|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F08030;&quot;&gt;'''Blaz'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Blaziken257|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C03028;&quot;&gt;'''iken'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Blaziken257|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#302000;&quot;&gt;'''257'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 18:49, 2 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::The article is a bit ambiguous on this point, it says &quot;And starting in crystal, move tutor moves&quot; in brackets under section 1.3.3 (passing moves down) - which could mean &quot;only in crystal&quot;, or it could mean &quot;from crystal onwards&quot;. Currently, in Soul Silver, I'm breeding a Cyndaquil with extrasensory, and I tried to teach it heat wave at the same time (to save me tutoring it later) by breeding a Vulpix that knows it from Growlithe (egg move). Vulpix had Extrasensory and Heat Wave (and flamethrower and fire spin) when I bred it with Quilava, but the resulting Cyndaquil only knew extrasensory and flamethrower, despite the fact that Cyndaquil can be tutored Heat Wave (I wasn't expecting Fire Spin though). I think this means that move tutor moves are NOT passed down, but TMs are passed down no problem. I'd quite like to hear from anyone who's done a bit more research into this though - it might just be a flaw in the way I did the breeding (though I doubt it, since Extrasensory worked out fine). Oh - and I think that section should also include information about ditto-move-breeding. I know moves held by females aren't carried down when breeding with ditto - do male+ditto couples pass on moves held by the male, like normal? [[User:NLawson|NLawson]] 04:20, 5 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==POSSIBLE SPADING SOLUTION!!!==<br /> <br /> I don't know, but according to Smogon, there's some sort of step counter that resets at 255. Follow this link for more info. http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/breeding_guide_part2#steps_required<br /> [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] &lt;sup&gt;([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:24, 1 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Wow. I'm surprised that Smogon has a guide on stuff that has nothing to do with battling, and it has stuff that this wiki doesn't have. Anyway, I'll read it and try to incorporate it into this page.<br /> :What's the policy on crediting, anyway? --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 01:49, 2 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Confused ==<br /> <br /> On this page, it says that Nidorina and Nidoqueen can't be breed whatsoever, but [[No eggs (egg group)#Trivia|here]] it says that they can. Which one is true? [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] 19:11, 19 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> You misread the trivia, it says that &quot;for some reason their male counterparts can&quot;, which, of course, does not make sense. '''''[[User:GuyNamedSean|Sean...]] [[Dialga (Pokémon)|Lord]] [[User talk:GuyNamedSean|of the]] [[Darkrai (Pokémon)|Shadows!!!]]''''' 23:13, 14 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Shiny breeding ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I got a shiny male Tentacruel, and a female Corsola, the shine-effect will be given to the baby Corsola?&lt;br&gt;<br /> [[User:Homie|Homie]] 15:26, 10 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Not unless you're playing Gold/Silver, in which case there would be a higher chance of shininess. '''[[User:Optimatum|&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Comic Sands MS; color:black;&quot;&gt;Θρtιmαtum&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:Optimatum|&lt;span style=&quot;color:black;&quot;&gt;Talk&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/b&gt; 15:27, 10 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Everstone ==<br /> <br /> Can we punt/delete the Gen IV sentence that says that the Everstone trick doesn't work anymore? It still does and I've done it several times. [[User:Rappak|Rappak]] 20:54, 26 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Are you sure? Notice that it says it doesn't work when the two Pokémon are from different language cartridges. E.g., it doesn't work if you try to breed an American Pokémon and a Japanese Pokémon together.&amp;nbsp;&amp;mdash;&amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;sub&gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&lt;/sub&gt; 20:56, 26 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Let me double check the foriegn, but I know it works with two pokemon of the same cartridges. I'm almost positive it still works. [[User:Rappak|Rappak]] 21:20, 26 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Yes, it does work with two Pokémon from the same cartridge, but not with two foreign Pokémon, and that is what the article is referring to.&amp;nbsp;&amp;mdash;&amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;sub&gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> <br /> == Inbreedible Pokemon? ==<br /> Okay so I have this male Charizard that I want to breed so I can send the Charmander over to my Leaf Green Version. I put it in the daycare with SEVERAL DIFFERENT Dittos, each with a different nature. All of them did not have interest in my Charizard or vice-versa. I looked up the nature and noticed that it had a LAX nature (Charizard). Do I need a certain natured ditto or something to be able to breed? --[[User:Blaziken=Tahu|Blaziken=Tahu]] 03:02, 29 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Lack of interest does not mean they won't make an egg. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|¿Nos hablamos?]] 22:25, 31 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Just wait a bit longer and take any further &quot;how do I/what do I/where do I&quot; game related questions to {{BMGf||the forums}}. &amp;mdash; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000C8&quot;&gt;THE TROM&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] &amp;mdash; 22:32, 31 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> what was the exact message the guy said? if he said &quot;they dont seem to like each other&quot; that means they will still breed but it just takes a little while longer, if he said &quot;they prefer to play with other pokemon&quot; then they cant breed and never will [[User:Happizelpom|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7070&quot;&gt;Happi&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Happizelpom|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF8000&quot;&gt;zel&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#660099&quot;&gt;pom&lt;/span&gt;]] 22:54, 31 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :These quotations need to go in the article. &amp;mdash; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000C8&quot;&gt;THE TROM&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] &amp;mdash; 22:59, 31 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> yep, they'll still breed. Thanks alot everyone. --[[User:Blaziken=Tahu|Blaziken=Tahu]] 23:48, 31 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Genders ==<br /> <br /> When are they defined for the egg, when it is received or when it hatches? [[User:Anastius|Anastius]] 10:15, 1 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> :What do you mean by &quot;defined&quot;.--[[User:Clarky13|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;'''Clarky'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Clarky13|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;'''13'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 10:18, 1 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::In the game data - the user wishes to know if once the player receives the egg, the gender of the hatched Pokemon has already been set. In my experience, yes, along with the nature. But I could have just been really unlucky. &amp;mdash; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000C8&quot;&gt;THE TROM&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] &amp;mdash; 20:54, 1 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::: It is definitely set when it hatches. I have hatched an army of Scyther (trying to get one with a &quot;Rash&quot; nature) and the gender and nature were always the same for the pokemon, even if i saved the game before it hatched, had it do so, and restarted it. So yes, gender and nature are determined when the Egg is conceived. Also, if makes since if you think about the hereditary moves, TM it can learn, etc when you pick which Pokémon you want to breed to get the egg. --[[User:Blaziken=Tahu|Blaziken=Tahu]] 20:50, 6 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Egg Moves ==<br /> How are egg moves determined? I mean, theres a list of moves that can be learned by pokemon by breeding for each pokemon. Was that found out by testing, and so its possible there are others it could learn, or is there a certain list of moves that a pokemon can use determined by the game and so anything thats not listed can't ever be learned? ([[User:MaoDaAmargura|MaoDaAmargura]] 01:30, 4 February 2009 (UTC))<br /> :its shown in the official Guide books, and some are made off of users testing it. EG tangela has an unlisted move[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;Mock Me&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt; 02:48, 4 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::It's also in the game's internal coding. &amp;mdash; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000C8&quot;&gt;THE TROM&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] &amp;mdash; 06:31, 4 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Yes, but i think hes referring to how we found it. Not all of us can access the coding, I assure you.[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;Mock Me&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt; 01:33, 5 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I dont get it........ ==<br /> I had a male machamp which knew Revenge, cross chop, karete chop and dynamicunch<br /> but when i bred it with a ditto the baby only knew its starting moves(low kick and leer) i'mpretty sure machop can learn all of my machamps moves what happend--[[User:Bulbsur-ivysaur-venusaur|Bulbsur-ivysaur-venusaur]] 20:31, 20 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> :try breeding with a female machoke [[User:Ultamatecharizard|&lt;span style=&quot;background:#000000; color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;Ultamate&lt;/span&gt;]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|&lt;sub&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF5A00&quot;&gt;Charizard&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;]] 20:56, 20 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Need Explaination ==<br /> <br /> In the Trivia section it reads, &quot;No negative effects occur from inbreeding Pokémon in Generation III and Generation IV, despite this being impossible in Generation II.&quot; Can someone please explain this statement? - [[User:Zedd|Zedd]] 17:49, 23 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> :It may be referencing that, in real life, inbreeding can lead to developmental problems in the newborns, and so no such issues (always poor IVs, for example, or crappy natures) would occur in the Pokemon games. The second part is straightforward; you cannot breed a parent Pokemon with its offspring in G/S/C. I'm not sure if sibling breeding is allowed, however. [[User:Starscream|Starscream]] 14:05, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Is it mentioned anywhere in the article, other than in the trivia, about inbreeding being impossible in Generation II? I skimmed over the article and saw nothing, but I might be wrong. I suggest, if it isn't already there, someone do a little segment on this, as I didn't really notice this in-game and it's kinda interesting. I'd do it myself, but I don't know much about the breeding of Generation II, and I've lost Crystal right now, and my emulators are too laggy to play on my laptop. [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 15:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::@Star - Sibling breeding is allowed, the mechanics that prevent Parent-child breeding are related to IVs (or DV, as they were caled back then) and there is no relation on opposite sex siblings' IVs in GSC.<br /> :::@It does, in the &quot;Inheriting stats&quot; section. [[User:Mr. Charlie|&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;'''Mr. Charlie'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000FF&quot;&gt;''TalkToMe''&lt;/font&gt;]])&lt;/small&gt; 15:38, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Actually, there is debate among scientific circles as to the validity of superstitions that inbreeding causes developmental defects. While more recent articles focus more on how this does lead to homozygosity and an increase in recessive alleles, an article from the Dept of Biostatistics study concludes that, &quot;No significant differences existed in the incidence of congenital anomalies among offspring between the consanguineous and non-consanguineous marriages in the rural or in the urban area.&quot; (Rao and Inbaraj, 1980). This doesn't necessarily write out its nature as a taboo subject in non-scholarly circles, but please enjoy just one of many scholarly articles on the subject, this one by the Dept of Biostatistics found in the Journal of Medical Genetics: [http://jmg.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/17/1/27 Inbreeding effects on fetal growth and development] I admit it's an older article, but newer articles tend to focus on studied genetic changes other than &quot;defects&quot;.&lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from {{u|PharosAM}} ([[User talk:PharosAM|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PharosAM|contribs]]) ''&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Tauros and Miltank again ==<br /> <br /> From the article: ''Note that while Miltank and Tauros are considered to be the female and male of the same species in the canon, for the purposes of breeding they are separate species''<br /> <br /> In what canon, exactly, are they considered &quot;male and female of the same species&quot;? Wouldn't, by nature of the fact that they cannot breed with each other to produce baby Tauros or Miltank, they NOT be [[User:Starscream|Starscream]] 20:55, 26 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> :??? They can breed with each other to produce baby Miltank... But I agree, not the same species, would like to hear what canon says so. Also, that bit about Volbeat and Nido♂ breeding with Ditto is interesting, {{tt|Pokémon must have ZW sex chromosomes|and no I am not going to campaign to have that included in the article}}. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 22:48, 27 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hatched Genders ==<br /> <br /> Has anyone figured out when a newly-hatched Pokémon's gender is set? Does it happen at the time of the egg's conception, or does it happen when it's hatched? --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 03:33, 13 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> :When it's received from the daycare. &lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Cracked; font-size:125%&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#303030;&quot;&gt;tc&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt;[[User:Tc26|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#e03828;&quot;&gt;²₆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Tc26|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#303030;&quot;&gt;tc&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User:Tc26/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#e03828;&quot;&gt;26&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt; 03:36, 13 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == A question about IVs... ==<br /> <br /> In HGSS, by using the EV Enhancers you can choose to pass a specific IV from a parent to their offspring. My question is this: Is it possible to have the passed down IV overwriten if the other parent passes down a higher IV of the same stat? For example, If I was trying to breed a Bronzong with a speed IV of zero and I used a Power Anklet to pass the zero stat from one parent, could the other parent then pass down it's higher speed IV, overwriting the IV I actually wanted? ~ [[User:Ender Phoenix|Ender Phoenix]] 00:46, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Yes. Me and some friends confirmed this by accident a while back when trying to breed for IVs. Furthermore, a lower IV can replace a higher one, which is what actually happened in our experiences. In my case, I was trying to breed a perfect Attack/Speed Scyther with Jolly nature from a perfect attack Scyther (holding a Power Bracer) and a perfect speed Volbeat (holding a Power Anklet). The first Jolly Scyther I got had perfect speed, but imperfect attack. Upon checking the Volbeat's IVs, it had indeed inherited the Volbeat's attack IV, overwriting the IV passed on by the Power Bracer. I think what this means is that the EV training items just force the first one or two IVs that are chosen (depending on how many you;re using) and then the last one/two is/are chosen randomly with the possibility of overwriting the previously passed IV(s). Anyway, I'm gonna go ahead and edit this into the article (minus the details of the experiment).&lt;br&gt; - [[User:Sensei Hanzo|Sensei Hanzo]] 15:16, 26 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Talking to the daycare ==<br /> <br /> Does talking to the daycare man outside to see how your pokémon are getting along have an effect on getting an egg? Cause I was cycling for quite a while and then I figured I should at least see how compatible my pokémon are with each other (which was &quot;They don't seem to like each other very much&quot; or something), then I went back to cycling around. My first lap and he has an egg, so is it just my luck or a requirement? Thanks in advance :) [[User:Adam0935|Adam0935]] 05:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> :No. The rate of getting an egg from a couple is explained [[Pokémon_breeding#Breeding_Rate.5B1.5D|here]]. It's all to do with species and ID number - you got lucky this time! &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 05:59, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Held Items ==<br /> <br /> Can a pokemon carry a held item when it has been hatched? I'm playing on HeartGold and I just caught Chansey in safari zone which took me freaking forever, about 3 hours. so if you kept breeding Chansey could one of the new pokemon be carrying a [[Lucky Egg]]. I really don't want to have to go around and catch another 19 Chansies if it's gonna take as long as the first one. [[User:Greenlikeblue]] 9:52, 5 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Er, no. I'm pretty sure that won't work. Sorry [[User:Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B69E00;&quot;&gt;&lt;sc&gt;Takharii&lt;/sc&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#929292;&quot;&gt;&lt;sc&gt;Talk!&lt;/sc&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:02, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Everstone and Nature inheritance from non-Ditto males in Diamond/Pearl ==<br /> Under the &quot;Inheriting Natures&quot; section, it says: &quot;In Generation IV inheriting Nature was changed a little. Whichever Pokémon is holding an Everstone will pass down its nature, '''regardless of gender''', or whether it is breeding with a ditto.&quot;<br /> <br /> The &quot;regardless of gender&quot; bit is problematic. It contradicts Smogon University's Breeding Guide (Part II), which states:<br /> <br /> &quot;In EDP, if a '''female''' Pokémon is holding the item Everstone and breeds with a male Pokémon, the baby will have a 50% chance of having the same nature as the female Pokémon. This also works if the Pokémon holding Everstone is Ditto.&quot;<br /> <br /> I am playing Diamond. To test, I've attempted to breed a Cubone with the Lonely nature by using a male Nidoran (Lonely nature) and a female Cubone (Hardy nature). The male Nidoran is holding an Everstone while in the Daycare. So far, it has produced '''29''' Cubones, spanning '''17''' different natures, '''none of which have the Lonely nature'''.<br /> <br /> While some players may have been successful with this method on HG/SS, I think the page should say that it may work in HG/SS but not in D/P. [[User:Fyda|Fyda]] 22:10, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I think you might just be misreading the paragraph... it's pretty widely known and obvious that males will never have a 50% chance of passing natures, in any game. Paragraph probably just needs rewording for clarification... unfortunately I'm terrible at that. orz ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#e072a9;&quot;&gt;ティナ&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#728084;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#728084;&quot;&gt;★&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:20, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Yes, that's the thing—I didn't expect it to be true, and testing it proved that it was definitely not true in Diamond. I think the offending sentence on the page is just plain ''wrong'', but there's a ''citation'' for it, which points to a forum thread where people claim to have gotten the Everstone trick to work on males for passing down their natures. Assuming they're not posting misinformation, I was wondering if this was a recent change to the Everstone trick that only occurred in HG/SS, while still not working in D/P/Pt. Right now the paragraph needs to be changed, and what I'd like to determine is whether it's A) completely false for any game in the series, or B) true only for specific games. [[User:Fyda|Fyda]] 07:18, 5 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Yeah, something's definitely wrong with the Generation IV natures part. On HeartGold I've had an adamant Ditto holding an Everstone and an Adamant Croagunk breeding. I hatched countless eggs and none of the Croagunks had an adamant nature. I get the feeling that breeding two pokemon with the same nature will '''NEVER''' result in a pokemon with that nature. I tried using a Croagunk with a naughty nature. none of the four Croagunks had an adamant nature. So that part where it talks about an everstone always passing on a nature is wrong. Does anyone have an idea how the everstone works in Gen IV? --[[User:Greenlikeblue|Greenlikeblue]] 05:55, 28 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Flame Body &amp; Magma Armor ==<br /> &quot;[...] Additionally, in Pokémon Emerald, if any Pokémon with Flame Body or Magma Armor is in the front of a player's party [...]&quot; As far as I'm concerned, they don't have to be in the first spot for the ability to work. Can anyone confirm this? --[[User:Arty2|Arty2]] 08:52, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I thought they had to be next to the egg... &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 23:32, 12 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Just tested it myself in Platinum: any team spot is fine for the effect to work. I think it's safe to assume it's been the same in Emerald too.[[User:Arty2|Arty2]] 05:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Lists of egg moves ==<br /> <br /> (Not actually about this page, rather about lists of moves learned by breeding, e.g. [[Pichu (Pokémon)#By breeding]].) Two questions:<br /> <br /> Firstly, where does the list of fathers come from? Is it programmed into the game that a given Pokémon can have a move passed down from X, Y or Z, or is it simply a list of all Pokémon that could both father this Pokémon and legitimately have the move?<br /> <br /> Secondly, why do we have lists of egg moves for Pokémon which cannot be the product of breeding, e.g. [[Raichu (Pokémon)#By breeding]]? Does this data exist in the game, and if so, how would one exploit it? Or have we merely copied the egg moves of its pre-evolved form? In the former case the list seems unnecessary, in the latter it seems both unnecessary and erroneous. [[User:Smithers888|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF1111;&quot;&gt;Smit&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Smithers888|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1111FF;&quot;&gt;hers&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Smithers888|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD733;&quot;&gt;888&lt;/span&gt;]] 22:24, 10 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The second one I can more or less answer. I would assume that it's there for convenience.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 22:38, 10 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The answer to your first question is that yes, it's just a list of all Pokémon which could both father the Pokémon and legitimately obtain the move. The answer to your second question is that the list is indeed copied from the pre-evolution's egg moves.<br /> :Both of these are for convenience, as Black Yin Zekrom explained. The lists of potential fathers would otherwise need to be obtained by comparing the list of Pokémon which could have the move and the list of which egg moves the desired Pokémon would have, which would be a lot of work which ought to be done by us beforehand, if we intend for people to use this site as a resource. The lists of egg moves for evolved Pokémon helps people who are building a competitive team to find which moves a fully-evolved Pokémon would have, without having to reference its first stage. It is extraneous, but it's also helpful for people who use Bulbapedia to make decisions regarding their games. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&lt;sup&gt;P&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;K&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;M&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;N&lt;/sub&gt;]] 23:04, 10 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::The first part is as I suspected. For the second part, I understand the reasoning, however it doesn't work completely. A player still has to browse the pre-evolved form's page to discover, for example, that Raichu could have Discharge, but only by level up as a Pikachu. --[[User:Smithers888|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF1111;&quot;&gt;Smit&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1111FF;&quot;&gt;hers&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Smithers888|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD733;&quot;&gt;888&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:17, 11 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Well then, of course they would look it up or do research.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 02:45, 12 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::I think you have a point. Perhaps you ought to raise the question with a staff member (I'd ask [[User:TTEchidna|TTE]], as he's the editor-in-chief and does a lot of work on the page layout for Pokémon articles). --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&lt;sup&gt;P&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;K&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;M&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;N&lt;/sub&gt;]] 11:37, 12 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Generation II breeding ==<br /> <br /> Is Parent/offspring breeding COMPLETELY off the table in these games? Seems to me the only check is the IV one, but there are scenarios where it could be bypassed. For example, a male breeds with Ditto and produces a female. The male and Ditto obviously have different Defense and Special IVs (or Special +/- 8), and so the male parent and female offspring should also have different Defense and Special IVs. In this case, since they'd share the same egg groups, the game should allow them to breed, correct? [[User:Starscream|Starscream]] 22:00, 8 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Abilities Redux: Hidden abilities ==<br /> <br /> As mentioned [[Talk:Pokémon breeding#Abilities|at the beginning of the talk page]] there was previous rumors abilities could be passed down, but according to [[Pokémon Dream World#Breeding mechanics|this]], with the new hidden abilities this actually seems to be the case. So shouldn't this be included on the page? [[User:Tasty Salamanders|Tasty Salamanders]] 09:27, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Baruchai and Barujiina ==<br /> <br /> About the part of Illumise and Nidoran doing eggs of they counterparts... anyone tried to get Washibon and Wargle eggs from Baruchai and Barujiina, because their pages say that they are counterparts. I tried to breed a Baruchai and my male Kenhorou but no luck, although i only tried once. --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 00:51, 14 January 2011 (UTC)</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pok%C3%A9mon_breeding&diff=1312680 2011-01-14T00:51:17Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* Baruchai and Barujiina */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>OOps. [[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 01:45, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Should this be listed under Pokémon Breeding or simply Breeding? -[[user:greengiant|greengiant]]<br /> <br /> Probably Poke breeding with a redirect from &quot;breeding&quot;<br /> <br /> A picture says more than tousand words<br /> <br /> == Strange Breeding: How did these things happen? ==<br /> <br /> A couple of strange things happened to me when I was breeding a male Blaziken with a female Phanpy (which is strange enough in itself, I guess)<br /> #When the egg hatched, the Phanpy knew Rock Smash. This shouldn't have been able to happen because I had previously deleted Rock Smash from Blaziken via the Move Deleter guy. <br /> #The Phanpy hatched holding a PP Up! Needless to say, I was thrilled, but is there any reason for this occurance? Is it random or predictable?<br /> Thanks a lot &amp;rarr;[[User:Evin290|Evin290]] 12:18, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I don;t know about the first, but I believe the second is because of Phanphy's ability &quot;Pickup&quot;.--[[User:Skully Collins|Skully Collins]] 08:42, 5 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Yeah the PP Up is definetly a result of the pick-up. As for the rock smash, no clue. --[[User:Blaziken=Tahu|Blaziken=Tahu]] 02:58, 29 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Could be something intentional. I would assume that Phanpy could learn Strength if you taught that to Blaziken then removed it. [[User:Learner4|Learner4]] 20:26, 24 November 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Im actually thinking that Phanphy can learn Rock Smash, so if Blaziken knew it then there are still &quot;reminints&quot; of Rock Smash there, as shown by the move relearner guy. Maybe when the breeding happened the data some how got mixed and BAM, you have a Phanphy that knows Rock Smash. Did you use any cheats (earlier on) at all?--[[User:Sorou|sorou]] 17:11, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Abilities ==<br /> I have seen, and the D/P Nintendo power guide states that, you can pass on abilities via breeding. This would be important to note, wouldn't it? It seems like something that big should be listed. Especially when you consider the possibilities! (I personally love my wonder-guarded sableye) Also, I think this should possibly be noted in the &quot;chain breeding&quot; section as well.<br /> --[[User:TheCakeIsALie|TheCakeIsALie]] 02:51, 7 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> True. Good eye. You may place it in the article in the appropriate place. And don't forget your sig or people won't know who you are.&lt;span style=&quot;background:#11FF6C;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;&quot;&gt;{{ani|486}}&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background:#00FFFF;&quot;&gt;[[User:Pokemaniac102|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A0C0F8;&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;big&gt;'''''Poke'''''&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A0C0F8;&quot;&gt;'''''Maniac'''''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A0C0F8;&quot;&gt;&lt;sub&gt;&lt;big&gt;'''''102'''''&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background:#11FF6C;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;&quot;&gt;{{ani|492}}&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; 06:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :No! Abilities are NOT PASSED ON. By Abilities they meant Natures. Go on, try it. ABILITIES CANNOT BE PASSED ON. &lt;span style=&quot;background:#FF9030&quot;&gt;'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|155|Fire echy}}&lt;span style=&quot;background:#664444&quot;&gt;[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD700&quot;&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E0E0E0&quot;&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;DS!&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;/span&gt; 06:45, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Plus, the only Pokémon with Wonder Guard can't breed with anything but Ditto, so it'd never pass it on to Sableye. If you got that thing in a trade, it's hacked, man. &lt;span style=&quot;background:#FF9030&quot;&gt;'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|155|Fire echy}}&lt;span style=&quot;background:#664444&quot;&gt;[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD700&quot;&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E0E0E0&quot;&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;DS!&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;/span&gt; 06:51, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Crap, thanks for pointing that out. Dang... But on another note, you CAN pass abilities legitimately, but I misread: they are passed along by the mother, so it would stay in the proper species. (the example given in NP's guide is 2 bibarel breed. Mother has Simple, father has Unaware, so offspring is a Bidoof with Simple.) So I was halfway right, but again, thanks for poiinting that out. I guess I ought to not use it much then, huh?--[[User:TheCakeIsALie|TheCakeIsALie]] 02:51, 7 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I just did a test run breeding two Kadabras, both with the ability [[Inner Focus (ability)|Inner Focus]]. They successfully bred an Abra with the ability [[Synchronize (ability)|Synchronize]]. This proves that, at least for HeartGold, ability is ''not'' passed down by either parent. --[[User:Kerrick|Kerrick]] 17:23, 22 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I can't actually PROVE this, but in my experience, the Everstone seems to have a similar effect on Abilities to the one it has on Natures. So, assuming that the mother is not a Ditto, and there is a chance between the two Abilities, and the mother is holding an Everstone, there appears to be a better than 50% chance that the child will have the same ability. I have no idea how to formally prove this, but if someone could either explain to me how to prove it, or simply look into it themselves, it would be appreciated.--[[User:Xatu|Xatu]] 03:49, 24 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Tauros &amp; Miltank ==<br /> <br /> Can anybody confirm for certain that their eggs are supposed to be 50% Tauros and 50% Miltank? I've personally hatched 11 eggs from a Tauros and a Ditto, and all of them were Tauros, which means I must be exceptionally unlucky if half of them are supposed to be Miltank. FYI, I'm playing Diamond where Miltank are rarer than Tauros (the opposite is true in Pearl). I thought it would be easier to breed a Miltank than catch one. [[User:Drapion|Drapion]] 17:28, 11 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I think the 50-50 chance thing is only if you breed a Miltank with Ditto; all of Tauros's kids with Ditto will be Tauros. [[User:Fsilone|Fsilone]] 22:29, 6 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :There is no way in any of the games for Tauros to hatch from a Miltank egg, or for Miltank to hatch from a Tauros egg. MorningStar edited this page with a note indicating otherwise as early as in March 2006, which is to say without knowledge of Diamond and Pearl. I believe no one bothered to fix it then due to the possibility of that holding true in the upcoming games, and since their release everyone has assumed the statement to be true because it was on the page so early on. Regardless of the reason, this note should have long been removed; it is easy to verify that even when breeding Miltank and Tauros ''together'' in the latest games, the product is still always a Miltank. I have done so for the sake of being on the safe side. [[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 13:30, 8 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I've changed this section of the page. I can confirm empirically (hatched 41 eggs: 28 from a Miltank + Ditto, 13 from a Miltank + various Ground-group Pokes) that you cannot hatch a Tauros from a Miltank egg in Pokemon Pearl, and I assume the same goes for Diamond; based on Unown Lord's comments I am assuming this applies to all the games. If it turns out you can, then feel free to revert the page - I haven't hacked the code, this is entirely based on testing, so it's possibly that I was ''extremely'' unlucky and happened to get 41 eggs that all hatched Miltank purely by chance, but I think that's unlikely.<br /> <br /> ::The only sources I can find online that support the Miltank/Tauros breeding line are either questionable (user FAQs on the Marriland forum that contain other errors) or based on this site. [[User:Castorquinn|Castorquinn]] 22:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ditto + Ditto? ==<br /> <br /> Someone settle something for me: Can you breed Ditto with Ditto? - [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]]<br /> <br /> No. I tried. - [[User:MacGyver|MacGyver]]<br /> <br /> Thanks. *notices the Discussion page for Ditto and wonders why he didn't look there in the first place*. - [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]]<br /> <br /> Then how are there wild ditto if they can't breed together?<br /> Do they spontaneously appear or something? [[User:Chuck67322|Chuck67322]] 05:14, 4 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Ditto looks like a big pile of goo, maybe over time they split in half like bacteria. [[User:Darkcloud1111|Darkcloud1111]] 00:57, 17 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Technical Question ==<br /> <br /> Do the natures of the parents make any difference on whether or not they will produce an egg? I'm trying to get my Dragonite to give Outrage to a new Gible, and the old man in Solaceon says they don't like eachother at all... Obviously that's not good, but why, and what can I do to change it?<br /> :At all? ..are you sure you're breeding a Dragonite with a &lt;s&gt;complete haxxmacheen&lt;/s&gt; Garchomp? Cause I do believeth that Garchomp and Dragonite can breed. o_o; {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;n&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]]{{Ani|380}}&lt;/sup&gt; 04:07, 8 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Not at all? You sure? Pretty much always when they're in the same egg group, they'll breed. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;TTE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 05:42, 8 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I have had similar problems. Sometimes I always make sure to check the Egg Groups before I attempt breeding, but every once in a while, the Daycare Man in Diamond tells me that they dislike each other. (oops, forgot to sign) --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 05:09, 16 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> There's no problem at all, peeps! If 'They don't like each other very much' it doesn't matter! AS long as they don't totally despise each other that's okay. I tried Ditto with my Lucario (TTE said it would work) and it worked altough they didn't like each other! [[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033&quot;&gt;A&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#003366&quot;&gt;g&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#215670&quot;&gt;e&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#006699&quot;&gt;n&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2D6E89&quot;&gt;t&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Optimus35|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0066CC&quot;&gt;#&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3D81EE&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#66B5FF&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#99C9FF&quot;&gt;8&lt;/span&gt;]]''' &lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&amp;title=Special%3AContributions&amp;contribs=user&amp;target=Optimus35&amp;namespace=0&amp;year=&amp;month=-1 &lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;] | [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZPMmUEHFIU &lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;[[Image:Ani282MS.gif]] 09:52, 16 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Why do I feel compelled to respond to this comment by saying &quot;Rape!&quot;[[User:Mystrich|Mystrich]] 06:06, 24 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The message “They don´t seem to like each other much.” indicates that the Pokémon are of different species but have the same trainer IDs, which means that out of all breedable Pokémon pairs, they have the lowest chance of producing an egg. This lower chance translates to a statistically longer period of waiting until the Daycare man hands you the egg, but nothing beyond that. [[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 10:25, 16 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I think it means that it's sort of like when two people pretend to hate each other but they really love each other but don't know it themselves. Eventually they find what they have in common and fall in love. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] &lt;sup&gt;([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:24, 1 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> == Question ==<br /> <br /> &quot;However, there are two pairs of Pokémon species where the male and female are treated as different Pokémon. In these cases, the egg may hatch into either the male or female species:<br /> <br /> *[[Nidoran♀ (Pokémon)|Nidoran♀]] and [[Nidoran♂ (Pokémon)|Nidoran♂]]<br /> *[[Illumise (Pokémon)|Illumise]] and [[Volbeat (Pokémon)|Volbeat]]&quot;<br /> <br /> Would this also be true in the case of Tauros and Miltank? Could a Miltank have an egg containing Tauros? Just asking cause it's not listed in the article. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0005CD;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;]][[Tracey Sketchit|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#15E200;&quot;&gt;ケンジ&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DC0062;&quot;&gt;ガール&lt;/span&gt;]] 10:17, 18 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Would it be true to say that only the female can lay and egg that could be either? I tried breeding a Nidoran♂ with a Ditto to get a [[Nidoran♀ (Pokémon)|♀]] but I just ended up with a dozen [[Nidoran♂ (Pokémon)|♂]]s. I did succesfully get a [[Volbeat (Pokémon)|Volbeat]] from an [[Illumise (Pokémon)|Illumise]]. <br /> Oh, and [[Tauros (Pokémon)|Tauros]] and [[Miltank (Pokémon)|Miltank]] are also linked.. &lt;span style=&quot;color:#009966;&quot;&gt;[[User:Woodland Mudkip|Woodland Mudkip]] ☆{{MS|001|Bulbasaur}}&lt;/span&gt; 11:02, 18 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Your first assertion is correct, and has thus been added to the page. As noted in a paragraph above by myself, Tauros and Miltank are simply not linked. It seems to me that the disillusion of not having a calf-like Pokémon as a pre-evolution to both, has caused a multitude of fans to believe in some fabricated indication that one is forthcoming. [[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 06:24, 22 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == TMs ==<br /> <br /> Can you pass down TM moves that weren't learned by TM? I'm going to breed my male Banette with Will-O-Wisp (Learned naturally) with a female Drifloon, and I'm wondering if it'll pass down Will-O-Wisp... {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;n&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe &lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7BBD;&quot;&gt;δ&lt;/span&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 20:10, 25 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Yep. It's what I do so as to save TMs from being used. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;TTE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 23:47, 25 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Languages ==<br /> <br /> Is this encyclopedia in American English or Commonwealth English? Becuase the most recent edit was from &quot;travelling&quot; to &quot;traveling&quot;, or Commonwealth to American.<br /> <br /> Yea, we're American (well, I think. Ask and admin. I'm pretty sure we're American English). --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7F00&quot;&gt;Theryguy&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 12:03, 5 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah, I as actually gonna do something else on the page after editing that (since Firefox does the red line under words that aren't in its dictionary), but I got distracted by something else and just decided &quot;eh.&quot;<br /> :But really, Bulbapedia's got contributors from all over. Though, well, American spelling's used in the games throughout their English release, as far as I know. They don't go through all the text changing the spelling of a few words, and I certainly didn't intend for my edit to be just that. It was more just &quot;hey, look, red line. Fix that and... um... what else was I gonna do?&quot; &lt;span style=&quot;background:#FF9030&quot;&gt;'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|155|Fire echy}}&lt;span style=&quot;background:#664444&quot;&gt;[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD700&quot;&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E0E0E0&quot;&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;DS!&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;/span&gt; 16:47, 5 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Inbreeding ==<br /> <br /> What is it? {{ani|493}}'''&lt;sc&gt;[[User:Optimus35|&lt;span class=&quot;explain&quot; title=&quot;&lt;nowiki&gt;Optimus35, to be exact...&gt;.&gt;;;;&lt;/nowiki&gt;&quot;&gt;Optimatum&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sc&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]&lt;/sup&gt;{{{1|11:19 13 Mar 2008}}}'''<br /> :...Don't ask. You don't wanna know. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:40, 28 March 2008 (UTC)<br /> Inbreeding is when closely related individuals mate and have children. It's very taboo in human culture but animal breeders do this with certain breeds of an animal, like dogs. It's not a good idea for people inbreed because recessive genes could be more pronounced and genetic defects can occur. - PDL<br /> :Told ya you didn't wanna know. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:25, 2 May 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::The PRima Games guide states that inbreeding is impossible in Emerald. Proves that you can't trust Prima. '''[[User:Optimatum|&lt;span class=&quot;explain&quot; title=&quot;Optimus35&quot;&gt;&lt;sc&gt;Θρtιmαtum♏&lt;/sc&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]&lt;/sub&gt;''13:12 5 Sep 2008'''''<br /> <br /> ::Well you can in the games, I'm Inbreeding all my Pokémon that I bead in the first place. [[User:Random Chaos|&lt;font color=&quot;Gold&quot;&gt;Random&lt;/font&gt;]] [[User talk:Random Chaos|&lt;font color=&quot;Silver&quot;&gt;Chaos&lt;/font&gt;]] [[User:Random Chaos/Sandbox|&lt;font color=&quot;Cyan&quot;&gt;Was here&lt;/font&gt;]][http://chaos-shepherd.deviantart.com/ ☃] 01:07, 17 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Uhh yeah ==<br /> <br /> Uhm. This is weird, but i've had two weird things happen with breeding that make little sense. Like, first, this happened today, i put my Shieldon and Cranidos in the day-care (one female, the other male) and the old man said &quot;These two prefer too play with other Pokémon&quot; and i like, i came back too get them and they'd had an egg, and last time i checked, &quot;They prefer too play with other Pokémon&quot; meant they weren't going too have an egg (i took the egg anyway). Uhm, the second thing, which is really weird, happened a few months ago on my Pokémon Emerald, i put my male Charizard and male Blaziken in the Daycare (cos i'm too lazy too train them myself) ...and they had an egg |: Last time i checked, Guy + Guy does not = baby/egg |: I'm 100% sure they we're both male. I was pretty sure it was just a glitch in the game, but i was wondering if it's happened too anyone else? (also, the egg was a normal Torchic, normal stats, normal moves, nothing weird/glitch-y about it)<br /> <br /> ~ [[user:takoto|Takoto]]<br /> <br /> Wow... That's really weird [[User:Darkmaster0|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#BBBBBB;&quot;&gt;Darkmaster&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Darkmaster0|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#AAAAAA;&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt;]]<br /> <br /> : Obviously {{MS|006|Charizard}} and {{MS|257|Blaziken}} adopted. I guess they don't mind adoption by same-sex couples in Sinnoh. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 00:35, 8 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::The thing that happened with Charizard and Blaziken happened on Emerald (: If they adopted, where did they adopt from? O: [[user:Takoto|Takoto]]<br /> <br /> <br /> |: It happened, again, only this time; Leafgreen. Someone please tell me that Umbreon and Caterpie are somehow in the same egg group. Scratch what i said earlier, I'm almost sure that the Blaziken/Charizard thing happened on LeafGreen, not Emerald |: *totally remembered after i posted that xD Uh soooo yeah, i think the Breeding's glitch'd up in my LeafGreen...Well, it wasn't even originally mine, it was my Cousins |: But I'm sure he didn't cheat or anything too make every Pokémon breed with every other Pokémon. Plus i did some test; i tried too breed some Pokémon and they didn't breed, the Legendaries didn't (I actually wanted a level 5 Mewtwo xD at one point) But yeah \: Is my games breeding system glitched up or is it just....oddities? [[User:Takoto|Takoto]] 15:35, 29 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::I would say you somehow glitched your game. Been using AR/GS/whatever? '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 16:52, 29 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::*Shake head* I've never used Action reply or Game shark on my Leafgreen...<br /> <br /> ==Length of time to breed==<br /> After getting frustrated by the time it took to breed on my old silver version, I looked around for information on how long it takes two pokemon to have an egg, and I found [http://www.angelfire.com/wizard/rossos_pokemon/breeding.html this site]. This is information I think bulbapedia needs. The problem is, I don't have any other sources on it, it doesn't say if the formula holds true for later Gens as well, and the author admits that his numbers are estimates. Does anyone know anything about this topic? [[User:Cheesus Is Lord|Cheesus Is Lord]] 22:09, 24 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Female Eevees ==<br /> <br /> Hi I've tried to breed my Eevee several times but everytime time I do I get male Eevees and I kinda wanna have a female one, I was wondering if there's any way to force an egg to hatch into a female pokemon r something, I've tried hatching it in Foarama town like I read somewhere but that didnt work..<br /> Having said that I did get a female Eevee once but it was very random<br /> :12.5% chance of getting female Eevee. You were just unlucky. '''[[User:Optimatum|&lt;span class=&quot;explain&quot; title=&quot;Optimus35&quot;&gt;&lt;sc&gt;Θρtιmαtum♏&lt;/sc&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]&lt;/sub&gt;''13:14 5 Sep 2008'''''<br /> <br /> == Multiple eggs ==<br /> <br /> I've been hatching several eggs at a time (getting three eggs, storing the parents, and then running up and down), and the number of steps in between hatches is always a multiple of 255, with 510 as the minimum (recent numbers are 510 and 1275). The steps between picking up the eggs are as low as 256, and I was carrying around Camerupt with Magma Armor. The numbers don't make sense unless there's some delay added to the other eggs when picking up eggs or hatching them, or some other weird hidden factor. Game is Pearl, by the way, and I've been using a Mach Bike. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 04:55, 16 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Tutored moves ==<br /> <br /> Can they be passed on to children like [[TM]] moves? I know I tried it once, but I can't remember the result. Anybody know for certain? Either way, whether it works or not, it should probably be mentioned in this article or [[move tutor]] (or both). [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 13:42, 22 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I don't think they can unless they're egg moves (Outrage from Salamence to baby Charmander) or shared by both father and child, the child's in its level-up set, while the mother also knows it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:39, 22 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::Off the top of my head, I believe that it's possible in {{v2|Crystal}}, but '''only''' in Crystal. At least, that's what I remember, maybe I should double-check this for myself though... --[[User:Blaziken257|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F08030;&quot;&gt;'''Blaz'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Blaziken257|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C03028;&quot;&gt;'''iken'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Blaziken257|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#302000;&quot;&gt;'''257'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 18:49, 2 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::The article is a bit ambiguous on this point, it says &quot;And starting in crystal, move tutor moves&quot; in brackets under section 1.3.3 (passing moves down) - which could mean &quot;only in crystal&quot;, or it could mean &quot;from crystal onwards&quot;. Currently, in Soul Silver, I'm breeding a Cyndaquil with extrasensory, and I tried to teach it heat wave at the same time (to save me tutoring it later) by breeding a Vulpix that knows it from Growlithe (egg move). Vulpix had Extrasensory and Heat Wave (and flamethrower and fire spin) when I bred it with Quilava, but the resulting Cyndaquil only knew extrasensory and flamethrower, despite the fact that Cyndaquil can be tutored Heat Wave (I wasn't expecting Fire Spin though). I think this means that move tutor moves are NOT passed down, but TMs are passed down no problem. I'd quite like to hear from anyone who's done a bit more research into this though - it might just be a flaw in the way I did the breeding (though I doubt it, since Extrasensory worked out fine). Oh - and I think that section should also include information about ditto-move-breeding. I know moves held by females aren't carried down when breeding with ditto - do male+ditto couples pass on moves held by the male, like normal? [[User:NLawson|NLawson]] 04:20, 5 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==POSSIBLE SPADING SOLUTION!!!==<br /> <br /> I don't know, but according to Smogon, there's some sort of step counter that resets at 255. Follow this link for more info. http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/breeding_guide_part2#steps_required<br /> [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] &lt;sup&gt;([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:24, 1 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Wow. I'm surprised that Smogon has a guide on stuff that has nothing to do with battling, and it has stuff that this wiki doesn't have. Anyway, I'll read it and try to incorporate it into this page.<br /> :What's the policy on crediting, anyway? --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 01:49, 2 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Confused ==<br /> <br /> On this page, it says that Nidorina and Nidoqueen can't be breed whatsoever, but [[No eggs (egg group)#Trivia|here]] it says that they can. Which one is true? [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] 19:11, 19 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> You misread the trivia, it says that &quot;for some reason their male counterparts can&quot;, which, of course, does not make sense. '''''[[User:GuyNamedSean|Sean...]] [[Dialga (Pokémon)|Lord]] [[User talk:GuyNamedSean|of the]] [[Darkrai (Pokémon)|Shadows!!!]]''''' 23:13, 14 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Shiny breeding ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I got a shiny male Tentacruel, and a female Corsola, the shine-effect will be given to the baby Corsola?&lt;br&gt;<br /> [[User:Homie|Homie]] 15:26, 10 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Not unless you're playing Gold/Silver, in which case there would be a higher chance of shininess. '''[[User:Optimatum|&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Comic Sands MS; color:black;&quot;&gt;Θρtιmαtum&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:Optimatum|&lt;span style=&quot;color:black;&quot;&gt;Talk&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/b&gt; 15:27, 10 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Everstone ==<br /> <br /> Can we punt/delete the Gen IV sentence that says that the Everstone trick doesn't work anymore? It still does and I've done it several times. [[User:Rappak|Rappak]] 20:54, 26 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Are you sure? Notice that it says it doesn't work when the two Pokémon are from different language cartridges. E.g., it doesn't work if you try to breed an American Pokémon and a Japanese Pokémon together.&amp;nbsp;&amp;mdash;&amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;sub&gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&lt;/sub&gt; 20:56, 26 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Let me double check the foriegn, but I know it works with two pokemon of the same cartridges. I'm almost positive it still works. [[User:Rappak|Rappak]] 21:20, 26 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Yes, it does work with two Pokémon from the same cartridge, but not with two foreign Pokémon, and that is what the article is referring to.&amp;nbsp;&amp;mdash;&amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;sub&gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> <br /> == Inbreedible Pokemon? ==<br /> Okay so I have this male Charizard that I want to breed so I can send the Charmander over to my Leaf Green Version. I put it in the daycare with SEVERAL DIFFERENT Dittos, each with a different nature. All of them did not have interest in my Charizard or vice-versa. I looked up the nature and noticed that it had a LAX nature (Charizard). Do I need a certain natured ditto or something to be able to breed? --[[User:Blaziken=Tahu|Blaziken=Tahu]] 03:02, 29 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Lack of interest does not mean they won't make an egg. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|¿Nos hablamos?]] 22:25, 31 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Just wait a bit longer and take any further &quot;how do I/what do I/where do I&quot; game related questions to {{BMGf||the forums}}. &amp;mdash; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000C8&quot;&gt;THE TROM&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] &amp;mdash; 22:32, 31 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> what was the exact message the guy said? if he said &quot;they dont seem to like each other&quot; that means they will still breed but it just takes a little while longer, if he said &quot;they prefer to play with other pokemon&quot; then they cant breed and never will [[User:Happizelpom|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7070&quot;&gt;Happi&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Happizelpom|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF8000&quot;&gt;zel&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#660099&quot;&gt;pom&lt;/span&gt;]] 22:54, 31 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :These quotations need to go in the article. &amp;mdash; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000C8&quot;&gt;THE TROM&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] &amp;mdash; 22:59, 31 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> yep, they'll still breed. Thanks alot everyone. --[[User:Blaziken=Tahu|Blaziken=Tahu]] 23:48, 31 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Genders ==<br /> <br /> When are they defined for the egg, when it is received or when it hatches? [[User:Anastius|Anastius]] 10:15, 1 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> :What do you mean by &quot;defined&quot;.--[[User:Clarky13|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;'''Clarky'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Clarky13|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;'''13'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 10:18, 1 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::In the game data - the user wishes to know if once the player receives the egg, the gender of the hatched Pokemon has already been set. In my experience, yes, along with the nature. But I could have just been really unlucky. &amp;mdash; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000C8&quot;&gt;THE TROM&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] &amp;mdash; 20:54, 1 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::: It is definitely set when it hatches. I have hatched an army of Scyther (trying to get one with a &quot;Rash&quot; nature) and the gender and nature were always the same for the pokemon, even if i saved the game before it hatched, had it do so, and restarted it. So yes, gender and nature are determined when the Egg is conceived. Also, if makes since if you think about the hereditary moves, TM it can learn, etc when you pick which Pokémon you want to breed to get the egg. --[[User:Blaziken=Tahu|Blaziken=Tahu]] 20:50, 6 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Egg Moves ==<br /> How are egg moves determined? I mean, theres a list of moves that can be learned by pokemon by breeding for each pokemon. Was that found out by testing, and so its possible there are others it could learn, or is there a certain list of moves that a pokemon can use determined by the game and so anything thats not listed can't ever be learned? ([[User:MaoDaAmargura|MaoDaAmargura]] 01:30, 4 February 2009 (UTC))<br /> :its shown in the official Guide books, and some are made off of users testing it. EG tangela has an unlisted move[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;Mock Me&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt; 02:48, 4 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::It's also in the game's internal coding. &amp;mdash; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000C8&quot;&gt;THE TROM&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] &amp;mdash; 06:31, 4 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Yes, but i think hes referring to how we found it. Not all of us can access the coding, I assure you.[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;Mock Me&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt; 01:33, 5 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I dont get it........ ==<br /> I had a male machamp which knew Revenge, cross chop, karete chop and dynamicunch<br /> but when i bred it with a ditto the baby only knew its starting moves(low kick and leer) i'mpretty sure machop can learn all of my machamps moves what happend--[[User:Bulbsur-ivysaur-venusaur|Bulbsur-ivysaur-venusaur]] 20:31, 20 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> :try breeding with a female machoke [[User:Ultamatecharizard|&lt;span style=&quot;background:#000000; color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;Ultamate&lt;/span&gt;]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|&lt;sub&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF5A00&quot;&gt;Charizard&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;]] 20:56, 20 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Need Explaination ==<br /> <br /> In the Trivia section it reads, &quot;No negative effects occur from inbreeding Pokémon in Generation III and Generation IV, despite this being impossible in Generation II.&quot; Can someone please explain this statement? - [[User:Zedd|Zedd]] 17:49, 23 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> :It may be referencing that, in real life, inbreeding can lead to developmental problems in the newborns, and so no such issues (always poor IVs, for example, or crappy natures) would occur in the Pokemon games. The second part is straightforward; you cannot breed a parent Pokemon with its offspring in G/S/C. I'm not sure if sibling breeding is allowed, however. [[User:Starscream|Starscream]] 14:05, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Is it mentioned anywhere in the article, other than in the trivia, about inbreeding being impossible in Generation II? I skimmed over the article and saw nothing, but I might be wrong. I suggest, if it isn't already there, someone do a little segment on this, as I didn't really notice this in-game and it's kinda interesting. I'd do it myself, but I don't know much about the breeding of Generation II, and I've lost Crystal right now, and my emulators are too laggy to play on my laptop. [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 15:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::@Star - Sibling breeding is allowed, the mechanics that prevent Parent-child breeding are related to IVs (or DV, as they were caled back then) and there is no relation on opposite sex siblings' IVs in GSC.<br /> :::@It does, in the &quot;Inheriting stats&quot; section. [[User:Mr. Charlie|&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;'''Mr. Charlie'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000FF&quot;&gt;''TalkToMe''&lt;/font&gt;]])&lt;/small&gt; 15:38, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Actually, there is debate among scientific circles as to the validity of superstitions that inbreeding causes developmental defects. While more recent articles focus more on how this does lead to homozygosity and an increase in recessive alleles, an article from the Dept of Biostatistics study concludes that, &quot;No significant differences existed in the incidence of congenital anomalies among offspring between the consanguineous and non-consanguineous marriages in the rural or in the urban area.&quot; (Rao and Inbaraj, 1980). This doesn't necessarily write out its nature as a taboo subject in non-scholarly circles, but please enjoy just one of many scholarly articles on the subject, this one by the Dept of Biostatistics found in the Journal of Medical Genetics: [http://jmg.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/17/1/27 Inbreeding effects on fetal growth and development] I admit it's an older article, but newer articles tend to focus on studied genetic changes other than &quot;defects&quot;.&lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from {{u|PharosAM}} ([[User talk:PharosAM|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PharosAM|contribs]]) ''&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Tauros and Miltank again ==<br /> <br /> From the article: ''Note that while Miltank and Tauros are considered to be the female and male of the same species in the canon, for the purposes of breeding they are separate species''<br /> <br /> In what canon, exactly, are they considered &quot;male and female of the same species&quot;? Wouldn't, by nature of the fact that they cannot breed with each other to produce baby Tauros or Miltank, they NOT be [[User:Starscream|Starscream]] 20:55, 26 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> :??? They can breed with each other to produce baby Miltank... But I agree, not the same species, would like to hear what canon says so. Also, that bit about Volbeat and Nido♂ breeding with Ditto is interesting, {{tt|Pokémon must have ZW sex chromosomes|and no I am not going to campaign to have that included in the article}}. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 22:48, 27 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hatched Genders ==<br /> <br /> Has anyone figured out when a newly-hatched Pokémon's gender is set? Does it happen at the time of the egg's conception, or does it happen when it's hatched? --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 03:33, 13 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> :When it's received from the daycare. &lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Cracked; font-size:125%&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#303030;&quot;&gt;tc&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt;[[User:Tc26|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#e03828;&quot;&gt;²₆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Tc26|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#303030;&quot;&gt;tc&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User:Tc26/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#e03828;&quot;&gt;26&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt; 03:36, 13 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == A question about IVs... ==<br /> <br /> In HGSS, by using the EV Enhancers you can choose to pass a specific IV from a parent to their offspring. My question is this: Is it possible to have the passed down IV overwriten if the other parent passes down a higher IV of the same stat? For example, If I was trying to breed a Bronzong with a speed IV of zero and I used a Power Anklet to pass the zero stat from one parent, could the other parent then pass down it's higher speed IV, overwriting the IV I actually wanted? ~ [[User:Ender Phoenix|Ender Phoenix]] 00:46, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Yes. Me and some friends confirmed this by accident a while back when trying to breed for IVs. Furthermore, a lower IV can replace a higher one, which is what actually happened in our experiences. In my case, I was trying to breed a perfect Attack/Speed Scyther with Jolly nature from a perfect attack Scyther (holding a Power Bracer) and a perfect speed Volbeat (holding a Power Anklet). The first Jolly Scyther I got had perfect speed, but imperfect attack. Upon checking the Volbeat's IVs, it had indeed inherited the Volbeat's attack IV, overwriting the IV passed on by the Power Bracer. I think what this means is that the EV training items just force the first one or two IVs that are chosen (depending on how many you;re using) and then the last one/two is/are chosen randomly with the possibility of overwriting the previously passed IV(s). Anyway, I'm gonna go ahead and edit this into the article (minus the details of the experiment).&lt;br&gt; - [[User:Sensei Hanzo|Sensei Hanzo]] 15:16, 26 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Talking to the daycare ==<br /> <br /> Does talking to the daycare man outside to see how your pokémon are getting along have an effect on getting an egg? Cause I was cycling for quite a while and then I figured I should at least see how compatible my pokémon are with each other (which was &quot;They don't seem to like each other very much&quot; or something), then I went back to cycling around. My first lap and he has an egg, so is it just my luck or a requirement? Thanks in advance :) [[User:Adam0935|Adam0935]] 05:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> :No. The rate of getting an egg from a couple is explained [[Pokémon_breeding#Breeding_Rate.5B1.5D|here]]. It's all to do with species and ID number - you got lucky this time! &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 05:59, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Held Items ==<br /> <br /> Can a pokemon carry a held item when it has been hatched? I'm playing on HeartGold and I just caught Chansey in safari zone which took me freaking forever, about 3 hours. so if you kept breeding Chansey could one of the new pokemon be carrying a [[Lucky Egg]]. I really don't want to have to go around and catch another 19 Chansies if it's gonna take as long as the first one. [[User:Greenlikeblue]] 9:52, 5 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Er, no. I'm pretty sure that won't work. Sorry [[User:Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B69E00;&quot;&gt;&lt;sc&gt;Takharii&lt;/sc&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#929292;&quot;&gt;&lt;sc&gt;Talk!&lt;/sc&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:02, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Everstone and Nature inheritance from non-Ditto males in Diamond/Pearl ==<br /> Under the &quot;Inheriting Natures&quot; section, it says: &quot;In Generation IV inheriting Nature was changed a little. Whichever Pokémon is holding an Everstone will pass down its nature, '''regardless of gender''', or whether it is breeding with a ditto.&quot;<br /> <br /> The &quot;regardless of gender&quot; bit is problematic. It contradicts Smogon University's Breeding Guide (Part II), which states:<br /> <br /> &quot;In EDP, if a '''female''' Pokémon is holding the item Everstone and breeds with a male Pokémon, the baby will have a 50% chance of having the same nature as the female Pokémon. This also works if the Pokémon holding Everstone is Ditto.&quot;<br /> <br /> I am playing Diamond. To test, I've attempted to breed a Cubone with the Lonely nature by using a male Nidoran (Lonely nature) and a female Cubone (Hardy nature). The male Nidoran is holding an Everstone while in the Daycare. So far, it has produced '''29''' Cubones, spanning '''17''' different natures, '''none of which have the Lonely nature'''.<br /> <br /> While some players may have been successful with this method on HG/SS, I think the page should say that it may work in HG/SS but not in D/P. [[User:Fyda|Fyda]] 22:10, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I think you might just be misreading the paragraph... it's pretty widely known and obvious that males will never have a 50% chance of passing natures, in any game. Paragraph probably just needs rewording for clarification... unfortunately I'm terrible at that. orz ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#e072a9;&quot;&gt;ティナ&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#728084;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#728084;&quot;&gt;★&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:20, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Yes, that's the thing—I didn't expect it to be true, and testing it proved that it was definitely not true in Diamond. I think the offending sentence on the page is just plain ''wrong'', but there's a ''citation'' for it, which points to a forum thread where people claim to have gotten the Everstone trick to work on males for passing down their natures. Assuming they're not posting misinformation, I was wondering if this was a recent change to the Everstone trick that only occurred in HG/SS, while still not working in D/P/Pt. Right now the paragraph needs to be changed, and what I'd like to determine is whether it's A) completely false for any game in the series, or B) true only for specific games. [[User:Fyda|Fyda]] 07:18, 5 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Yeah, something's definitely wrong with the Generation IV natures part. On HeartGold I've had an adamant Ditto holding an Everstone and an Adamant Croagunk breeding. I hatched countless eggs and none of the Croagunks had an adamant nature. I get the feeling that breeding two pokemon with the same nature will '''NEVER''' result in a pokemon with that nature. I tried using a Croagunk with a naughty nature. none of the four Croagunks had an adamant nature. So that part where it talks about an everstone always passing on a nature is wrong. Does anyone have an idea how the everstone works in Gen IV? --[[User:Greenlikeblue|Greenlikeblue]] 05:55, 28 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Flame Body &amp; Magma Armor ==<br /> &quot;[...] Additionally, in Pokémon Emerald, if any Pokémon with Flame Body or Magma Armor is in the front of a player's party [...]&quot; As far as I'm concerned, they don't have to be in the first spot for the ability to work. Can anyone confirm this? --[[User:Arty2|Arty2]] 08:52, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I thought they had to be next to the egg... &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 23:32, 12 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Just tested it myself in Platinum: any team spot is fine for the effect to work. I think it's safe to assume it's been the same in Emerald too.[[User:Arty2|Arty2]] 05:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Lists of egg moves ==<br /> <br /> (Not actually about this page, rather about lists of moves learned by breeding, e.g. [[Pichu (Pokémon)#By breeding]].) Two questions:<br /> <br /> Firstly, where does the list of fathers come from? Is it programmed into the game that a given Pokémon can have a move passed down from X, Y or Z, or is it simply a list of all Pokémon that could both father this Pokémon and legitimately have the move?<br /> <br /> Secondly, why do we have lists of egg moves for Pokémon which cannot be the product of breeding, e.g. [[Raichu (Pokémon)#By breeding]]? Does this data exist in the game, and if so, how would one exploit it? Or have we merely copied the egg moves of its pre-evolved form? In the former case the list seems unnecessary, in the latter it seems both unnecessary and erroneous. [[User:Smithers888|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF1111;&quot;&gt;Smit&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Smithers888|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1111FF;&quot;&gt;hers&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Smithers888|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD733;&quot;&gt;888&lt;/span&gt;]] 22:24, 10 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The second one I can more or less answer. I would assume that it's there for convenience.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 22:38, 10 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The answer to your first question is that yes, it's just a list of all Pokémon which could both father the Pokémon and legitimately obtain the move. The answer to your second question is that the list is indeed copied from the pre-evolution's egg moves.<br /> :Both of these are for convenience, as Black Yin Zekrom explained. The lists of potential fathers would otherwise need to be obtained by comparing the list of Pokémon which could have the move and the list of which egg moves the desired Pokémon would have, which would be a lot of work which ought to be done by us beforehand, if we intend for people to use this site as a resource. The lists of egg moves for evolved Pokémon helps people who are building a competitive team to find which moves a fully-evolved Pokémon would have, without having to reference its first stage. It is extraneous, but it's also helpful for people who use Bulbapedia to make decisions regarding their games. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&lt;sup&gt;P&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;K&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;M&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;N&lt;/sub&gt;]] 23:04, 10 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::The first part is as I suspected. For the second part, I understand the reasoning, however it doesn't work completely. A player still has to browse the pre-evolved form's page to discover, for example, that Raichu could have Discharge, but only by level up as a Pikachu. --[[User:Smithers888|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF1111;&quot;&gt;Smit&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1111FF;&quot;&gt;hers&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Smithers888|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD733;&quot;&gt;888&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:17, 11 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Well then, of course they would look it up or do research.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 02:45, 12 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::I think you have a point. Perhaps you ought to raise the question with a staff member (I'd ask [[User:TTEchidna|TTE]], as he's the editor-in-chief and does a lot of work on the page layout for Pokémon articles). --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&lt;sup&gt;P&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;K&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;M&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;N&lt;/sub&gt;]] 11:37, 12 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Generation II breeding ==<br /> <br /> Is Parent/offspring breeding COMPLETELY off the table in these games? Seems to me the only check is the IV one, but there are scenarios where it could be bypassed. For example, a male breeds with Ditto and produces a female. The male and Ditto obviously have different Defense and Special IVs (or Special +/- 8), and so the male parent and female offspring should also have different Defense and Special IVs. In this case, since they'd share the same egg groups, the game should allow them to breed, correct? [[User:Starscream|Starscream]] 22:00, 8 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Abilities Redux: Hidden abilities ==<br /> <br /> As mentioned [[Talk:Pokémon breeding#Abilities|at the beginning of the talk page]] there was previous rumors abilities could be passed down, but according to [[Pokémon Dream World#Breeding mechanics|this]], with the new hidden abilities this actually seems to be the case. So shouldn't this be included on the page? [[User:Tasty Salamanders|Tasty Salamanders]] 09:27, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Baruchai and Barujiina ==<br /> <br /> About the part of Illumise and Nidoran doing eggs of they counterparts... anyone tried to get Washibon and Wargle eggs from Baruchai and Barujiina, because their pages say that they are counterparts. I tried to breed a Baruchai and my male Kenhorou but no luck, although i only tried once. --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 00:51, 14 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Baruchai and Barujiina ==<br /> <br /> About the part of Illumise and Nidoran doing eggs of they counterparts... anyone tried to get Washibon and Wargle eggs from Baruchai and Barujiina, because their pages say that they are counterparts. I tried to breed a Baruchai and my male Kenhorou but no luck, although i only tried once. --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 00:51, 14 January 2011 (UTC)</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pok%C3%A9mon_breeding&diff=1312679 2011-01-14T00:51:15Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* Baruchai and Barujiina */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>OOps. [[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 01:45, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Should this be listed under Pokémon Breeding or simply Breeding? -[[user:greengiant|greengiant]]<br /> <br /> Probably Poke breeding with a redirect from &quot;breeding&quot;<br /> <br /> A picture says more than tousand words<br /> <br /> == Strange Breeding: How did these things happen? ==<br /> <br /> A couple of strange things happened to me when I was breeding a male Blaziken with a female Phanpy (which is strange enough in itself, I guess)<br /> #When the egg hatched, the Phanpy knew Rock Smash. This shouldn't have been able to happen because I had previously deleted Rock Smash from Blaziken via the Move Deleter guy. <br /> #The Phanpy hatched holding a PP Up! Needless to say, I was thrilled, but is there any reason for this occurance? Is it random or predictable?<br /> Thanks a lot &amp;rarr;[[User:Evin290|Evin290]] 12:18, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I don;t know about the first, but I believe the second is because of Phanphy's ability &quot;Pickup&quot;.--[[User:Skully Collins|Skully Collins]] 08:42, 5 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Yeah the PP Up is definetly a result of the pick-up. As for the rock smash, no clue. --[[User:Blaziken=Tahu|Blaziken=Tahu]] 02:58, 29 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Could be something intentional. I would assume that Phanpy could learn Strength if you taught that to Blaziken then removed it. [[User:Learner4|Learner4]] 20:26, 24 November 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Im actually thinking that Phanphy can learn Rock Smash, so if Blaziken knew it then there are still &quot;reminints&quot; of Rock Smash there, as shown by the move relearner guy. Maybe when the breeding happened the data some how got mixed and BAM, you have a Phanphy that knows Rock Smash. Did you use any cheats (earlier on) at all?--[[User:Sorou|sorou]] 17:11, 30 December 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Abilities ==<br /> I have seen, and the D/P Nintendo power guide states that, you can pass on abilities via breeding. This would be important to note, wouldn't it? It seems like something that big should be listed. Especially when you consider the possibilities! (I personally love my wonder-guarded sableye) Also, I think this should possibly be noted in the &quot;chain breeding&quot; section as well.<br /> --[[User:TheCakeIsALie|TheCakeIsALie]] 02:51, 7 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> True. Good eye. You may place it in the article in the appropriate place. And don't forget your sig or people won't know who you are.&lt;span style=&quot;background:#11FF6C;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;&quot;&gt;{{ani|486}}&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background:#00FFFF;&quot;&gt;[[User:Pokemaniac102|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A0C0F8;&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;big&gt;'''''Poke'''''&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A0C0F8;&quot;&gt;'''''Maniac'''''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A0C0F8;&quot;&gt;&lt;sub&gt;&lt;big&gt;'''''102'''''&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background:#11FF6C;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;&quot;&gt;{{ani|492}}&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; 06:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :No! Abilities are NOT PASSED ON. By Abilities they meant Natures. Go on, try it. ABILITIES CANNOT BE PASSED ON. &lt;span style=&quot;background:#FF9030&quot;&gt;'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|155|Fire echy}}&lt;span style=&quot;background:#664444&quot;&gt;[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD700&quot;&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E0E0E0&quot;&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;DS!&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;/span&gt; 06:45, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Plus, the only Pokémon with Wonder Guard can't breed with anything but Ditto, so it'd never pass it on to Sableye. If you got that thing in a trade, it's hacked, man. &lt;span style=&quot;background:#FF9030&quot;&gt;'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|155|Fire echy}}&lt;span style=&quot;background:#664444&quot;&gt;[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD700&quot;&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E0E0E0&quot;&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;DS!&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;/span&gt; 06:51, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Crap, thanks for pointing that out. Dang... But on another note, you CAN pass abilities legitimately, but I misread: they are passed along by the mother, so it would stay in the proper species. (the example given in NP's guide is 2 bibarel breed. Mother has Simple, father has Unaware, so offspring is a Bidoof with Simple.) So I was halfway right, but again, thanks for poiinting that out. I guess I ought to not use it much then, huh?--[[User:TheCakeIsALie|TheCakeIsALie]] 02:51, 7 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I just did a test run breeding two Kadabras, both with the ability [[Inner Focus (ability)|Inner Focus]]. They successfully bred an Abra with the ability [[Synchronize (ability)|Synchronize]]. This proves that, at least for HeartGold, ability is ''not'' passed down by either parent. --[[User:Kerrick|Kerrick]] 17:23, 22 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I can't actually PROVE this, but in my experience, the Everstone seems to have a similar effect on Abilities to the one it has on Natures. So, assuming that the mother is not a Ditto, and there is a chance between the two Abilities, and the mother is holding an Everstone, there appears to be a better than 50% chance that the child will have the same ability. I have no idea how to formally prove this, but if someone could either explain to me how to prove it, or simply look into it themselves, it would be appreciated.--[[User:Xatu|Xatu]] 03:49, 24 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Tauros &amp; Miltank ==<br /> <br /> Can anybody confirm for certain that their eggs are supposed to be 50% Tauros and 50% Miltank? I've personally hatched 11 eggs from a Tauros and a Ditto, and all of them were Tauros, which means I must be exceptionally unlucky if half of them are supposed to be Miltank. FYI, I'm playing Diamond where Miltank are rarer than Tauros (the opposite is true in Pearl). I thought it would be easier to breed a Miltank than catch one. [[User:Drapion|Drapion]] 17:28, 11 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I think the 50-50 chance thing is only if you breed a Miltank with Ditto; all of Tauros's kids with Ditto will be Tauros. [[User:Fsilone|Fsilone]] 22:29, 6 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :There is no way in any of the games for Tauros to hatch from a Miltank egg, or for Miltank to hatch from a Tauros egg. MorningStar edited this page with a note indicating otherwise as early as in March 2006, which is to say without knowledge of Diamond and Pearl. I believe no one bothered to fix it then due to the possibility of that holding true in the upcoming games, and since their release everyone has assumed the statement to be true because it was on the page so early on. Regardless of the reason, this note should have long been removed; it is easy to verify that even when breeding Miltank and Tauros ''together'' in the latest games, the product is still always a Miltank. I have done so for the sake of being on the safe side. [[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 13:30, 8 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I've changed this section of the page. I can confirm empirically (hatched 41 eggs: 28 from a Miltank + Ditto, 13 from a Miltank + various Ground-group Pokes) that you cannot hatch a Tauros from a Miltank egg in Pokemon Pearl, and I assume the same goes for Diamond; based on Unown Lord's comments I am assuming this applies to all the games. If it turns out you can, then feel free to revert the page - I haven't hacked the code, this is entirely based on testing, so it's possibly that I was ''extremely'' unlucky and happened to get 41 eggs that all hatched Miltank purely by chance, but I think that's unlikely.<br /> <br /> ::The only sources I can find online that support the Miltank/Tauros breeding line are either questionable (user FAQs on the Marriland forum that contain other errors) or based on this site. [[User:Castorquinn|Castorquinn]] 22:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ditto + Ditto? ==<br /> <br /> Someone settle something for me: Can you breed Ditto with Ditto? - [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]]<br /> <br /> No. I tried. - [[User:MacGyver|MacGyver]]<br /> <br /> Thanks. *notices the Discussion page for Ditto and wonders why he didn't look there in the first place*. - [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]]<br /> <br /> Then how are there wild ditto if they can't breed together?<br /> Do they spontaneously appear or something? [[User:Chuck67322|Chuck67322]] 05:14, 4 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Ditto looks like a big pile of goo, maybe over time they split in half like bacteria. [[User:Darkcloud1111|Darkcloud1111]] 00:57, 17 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Technical Question ==<br /> <br /> Do the natures of the parents make any difference on whether or not they will produce an egg? I'm trying to get my Dragonite to give Outrage to a new Gible, and the old man in Solaceon says they don't like eachother at all... Obviously that's not good, but why, and what can I do to change it?<br /> :At all? ..are you sure you're breeding a Dragonite with a &lt;s&gt;complete haxxmacheen&lt;/s&gt; Garchomp? Cause I do believeth that Garchomp and Dragonite can breed. o_o; {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;n&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]]{{Ani|380}}&lt;/sup&gt; 04:07, 8 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Not at all? You sure? Pretty much always when they're in the same egg group, they'll breed. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;TTE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 05:42, 8 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I have had similar problems. Sometimes I always make sure to check the Egg Groups before I attempt breeding, but every once in a while, the Daycare Man in Diamond tells me that they dislike each other. (oops, forgot to sign) --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 05:09, 16 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> There's no problem at all, peeps! If 'They don't like each other very much' it doesn't matter! AS long as they don't totally despise each other that's okay. I tried Ditto with my Lucario (TTE said it would work) and it worked altough they didn't like each other! [[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033&quot;&gt;A&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#003366&quot;&gt;g&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#215670&quot;&gt;e&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#006699&quot;&gt;n&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2D6E89&quot;&gt;t&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Optimus35|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0066CC&quot;&gt;#&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3D81EE&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#66B5FF&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#99C9FF&quot;&gt;8&lt;/span&gt;]]''' &lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&amp;title=Special%3AContributions&amp;contribs=user&amp;target=Optimus35&amp;namespace=0&amp;year=&amp;month=-1 &lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;] | [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZPMmUEHFIU &lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;[[Image:Ani282MS.gif]] 09:52, 16 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Why do I feel compelled to respond to this comment by saying &quot;Rape!&quot;[[User:Mystrich|Mystrich]] 06:06, 24 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The message “They don´t seem to like each other much.” indicates that the Pokémon are of different species but have the same trainer IDs, which means that out of all breedable Pokémon pairs, they have the lowest chance of producing an egg. This lower chance translates to a statistically longer period of waiting until the Daycare man hands you the egg, but nothing beyond that. [[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 10:25, 16 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I think it means that it's sort of like when two people pretend to hate each other but they really love each other but don't know it themselves. Eventually they find what they have in common and fall in love. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] &lt;sup&gt;([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:24, 1 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> == Question ==<br /> <br /> &quot;However, there are two pairs of Pokémon species where the male and female are treated as different Pokémon. In these cases, the egg may hatch into either the male or female species:<br /> <br /> *[[Nidoran♀ (Pokémon)|Nidoran♀]] and [[Nidoran♂ (Pokémon)|Nidoran♂]]<br /> *[[Illumise (Pokémon)|Illumise]] and [[Volbeat (Pokémon)|Volbeat]]&quot;<br /> <br /> Would this also be true in the case of Tauros and Miltank? Could a Miltank have an egg containing Tauros? Just asking cause it's not listed in the article. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0005CD;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;]][[Tracey Sketchit|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#15E200;&quot;&gt;ケンジ&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DC0062;&quot;&gt;ガール&lt;/span&gt;]] 10:17, 18 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Would it be true to say that only the female can lay and egg that could be either? I tried breeding a Nidoran♂ with a Ditto to get a [[Nidoran♀ (Pokémon)|♀]] but I just ended up with a dozen [[Nidoran♂ (Pokémon)|♂]]s. I did succesfully get a [[Volbeat (Pokémon)|Volbeat]] from an [[Illumise (Pokémon)|Illumise]]. <br /> Oh, and [[Tauros (Pokémon)|Tauros]] and [[Miltank (Pokémon)|Miltank]] are also linked.. &lt;span style=&quot;color:#009966;&quot;&gt;[[User:Woodland Mudkip|Woodland Mudkip]] ☆{{MS|001|Bulbasaur}}&lt;/span&gt; 11:02, 18 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Your first assertion is correct, and has thus been added to the page. As noted in a paragraph above by myself, Tauros and Miltank are simply not linked. It seems to me that the disillusion of not having a calf-like Pokémon as a pre-evolution to both, has caused a multitude of fans to believe in some fabricated indication that one is forthcoming. [[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 06:24, 22 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == TMs ==<br /> <br /> Can you pass down TM moves that weren't learned by TM? I'm going to breed my male Banette with Will-O-Wisp (Learned naturally) with a female Drifloon, and I'm wondering if it'll pass down Will-O-Wisp... {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;n&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe &lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7BBD;&quot;&gt;δ&lt;/span&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 20:10, 25 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Yep. It's what I do so as to save TMs from being used. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;TTE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 23:47, 25 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Languages ==<br /> <br /> Is this encyclopedia in American English or Commonwealth English? Becuase the most recent edit was from &quot;travelling&quot; to &quot;traveling&quot;, or Commonwealth to American.<br /> <br /> Yea, we're American (well, I think. Ask and admin. I'm pretty sure we're American English). --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7F00&quot;&gt;Theryguy&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 12:03, 5 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah, I as actually gonna do something else on the page after editing that (since Firefox does the red line under words that aren't in its dictionary), but I got distracted by something else and just decided &quot;eh.&quot;<br /> :But really, Bulbapedia's got contributors from all over. Though, well, American spelling's used in the games throughout their English release, as far as I know. They don't go through all the text changing the spelling of a few words, and I certainly didn't intend for my edit to be just that. It was more just &quot;hey, look, red line. Fix that and... um... what else was I gonna do?&quot; &lt;span style=&quot;background:#FF9030&quot;&gt;'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|155|Fire echy}}&lt;span style=&quot;background:#664444&quot;&gt;[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD700&quot;&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E0E0E0&quot;&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;DS!&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;/span&gt; 16:47, 5 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Inbreeding ==<br /> <br /> What is it? {{ani|493}}'''&lt;sc&gt;[[User:Optimus35|&lt;span class=&quot;explain&quot; title=&quot;&lt;nowiki&gt;Optimus35, to be exact...&gt;.&gt;;;;&lt;/nowiki&gt;&quot;&gt;Optimatum&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sc&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]&lt;/sup&gt;{{{1|11:19 13 Mar 2008}}}'''<br /> :...Don't ask. You don't wanna know. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:40, 28 March 2008 (UTC)<br /> Inbreeding is when closely related individuals mate and have children. It's very taboo in human culture but animal breeders do this with certain breeds of an animal, like dogs. It's not a good idea for people inbreed because recessive genes could be more pronounced and genetic defects can occur. - PDL<br /> :Told ya you didn't wanna know. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:25, 2 May 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::The PRima Games guide states that inbreeding is impossible in Emerald. Proves that you can't trust Prima. '''[[User:Optimatum|&lt;span class=&quot;explain&quot; title=&quot;Optimus35&quot;&gt;&lt;sc&gt;Θρtιmαtum♏&lt;/sc&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]&lt;/sub&gt;''13:12 5 Sep 2008'''''<br /> <br /> ::Well you can in the games, I'm Inbreeding all my Pokémon that I bead in the first place. [[User:Random Chaos|&lt;font color=&quot;Gold&quot;&gt;Random&lt;/font&gt;]] [[User talk:Random Chaos|&lt;font color=&quot;Silver&quot;&gt;Chaos&lt;/font&gt;]] [[User:Random Chaos/Sandbox|&lt;font color=&quot;Cyan&quot;&gt;Was here&lt;/font&gt;]][http://chaos-shepherd.deviantart.com/ ☃] 01:07, 17 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Uhh yeah ==<br /> <br /> Uhm. This is weird, but i've had two weird things happen with breeding that make little sense. Like, first, this happened today, i put my Shieldon and Cranidos in the day-care (one female, the other male) and the old man said &quot;These two prefer too play with other Pokémon&quot; and i like, i came back too get them and they'd had an egg, and last time i checked, &quot;They prefer too play with other Pokémon&quot; meant they weren't going too have an egg (i took the egg anyway). Uhm, the second thing, which is really weird, happened a few months ago on my Pokémon Emerald, i put my male Charizard and male Blaziken in the Daycare (cos i'm too lazy too train them myself) ...and they had an egg |: Last time i checked, Guy + Guy does not = baby/egg |: I'm 100% sure they we're both male. I was pretty sure it was just a glitch in the game, but i was wondering if it's happened too anyone else? (also, the egg was a normal Torchic, normal stats, normal moves, nothing weird/glitch-y about it)<br /> <br /> ~ [[user:takoto|Takoto]]<br /> <br /> Wow... That's really weird [[User:Darkmaster0|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#BBBBBB;&quot;&gt;Darkmaster&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Darkmaster0|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#AAAAAA;&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt;]]<br /> <br /> : Obviously {{MS|006|Charizard}} and {{MS|257|Blaziken}} adopted. I guess they don't mind adoption by same-sex couples in Sinnoh. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 00:35, 8 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::The thing that happened with Charizard and Blaziken happened on Emerald (: If they adopted, where did they adopt from? O: [[user:Takoto|Takoto]]<br /> <br /> <br /> |: It happened, again, only this time; Leafgreen. Someone please tell me that Umbreon and Caterpie are somehow in the same egg group. Scratch what i said earlier, I'm almost sure that the Blaziken/Charizard thing happened on LeafGreen, not Emerald |: *totally remembered after i posted that xD Uh soooo yeah, i think the Breeding's glitch'd up in my LeafGreen...Well, it wasn't even originally mine, it was my Cousins |: But I'm sure he didn't cheat or anything too make every Pokémon breed with every other Pokémon. Plus i did some test; i tried too breed some Pokémon and they didn't breed, the Legendaries didn't (I actually wanted a level 5 Mewtwo xD at one point) But yeah \: Is my games breeding system glitched up or is it just....oddities? [[User:Takoto|Takoto]] 15:35, 29 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::I would say you somehow glitched your game. Been using AR/GS/whatever? '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 16:52, 29 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::*Shake head* I've never used Action reply or Game shark on my Leafgreen...<br /> <br /> ==Length of time to breed==<br /> After getting frustrated by the time it took to breed on my old silver version, I looked around for information on how long it takes two pokemon to have an egg, and I found [http://www.angelfire.com/wizard/rossos_pokemon/breeding.html this site]. This is information I think bulbapedia needs. The problem is, I don't have any other sources on it, it doesn't say if the formula holds true for later Gens as well, and the author admits that his numbers are estimates. Does anyone know anything about this topic? [[User:Cheesus Is Lord|Cheesus Is Lord]] 22:09, 24 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Female Eevees ==<br /> <br /> Hi I've tried to breed my Eevee several times but everytime time I do I get male Eevees and I kinda wanna have a female one, I was wondering if there's any way to force an egg to hatch into a female pokemon r something, I've tried hatching it in Foarama town like I read somewhere but that didnt work..<br /> Having said that I did get a female Eevee once but it was very random<br /> :12.5% chance of getting female Eevee. You were just unlucky. '''[[User:Optimatum|&lt;span class=&quot;explain&quot; title=&quot;Optimus35&quot;&gt;&lt;sc&gt;Θρtιmαtum♏&lt;/sc&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]&lt;/sub&gt;''13:14 5 Sep 2008'''''<br /> <br /> == Multiple eggs ==<br /> <br /> I've been hatching several eggs at a time (getting three eggs, storing the parents, and then running up and down), and the number of steps in between hatches is always a multiple of 255, with 510 as the minimum (recent numbers are 510 and 1275). The steps between picking up the eggs are as low as 256, and I was carrying around Camerupt with Magma Armor. The numbers don't make sense unless there's some delay added to the other eggs when picking up eggs or hatching them, or some other weird hidden factor. Game is Pearl, by the way, and I've been using a Mach Bike. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 04:55, 16 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Tutored moves ==<br /> <br /> Can they be passed on to children like [[TM]] moves? I know I tried it once, but I can't remember the result. Anybody know for certain? Either way, whether it works or not, it should probably be mentioned in this article or [[move tutor]] (or both). [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 13:42, 22 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I don't think they can unless they're egg moves (Outrage from Salamence to baby Charmander) or shared by both father and child, the child's in its level-up set, while the mother also knows it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:39, 22 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::Off the top of my head, I believe that it's possible in {{v2|Crystal}}, but '''only''' in Crystal. At least, that's what I remember, maybe I should double-check this for myself though... --[[User:Blaziken257|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F08030;&quot;&gt;'''Blaz'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Blaziken257|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C03028;&quot;&gt;'''iken'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Blaziken257|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#302000;&quot;&gt;'''257'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 18:49, 2 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::The article is a bit ambiguous on this point, it says &quot;And starting in crystal, move tutor moves&quot; in brackets under section 1.3.3 (passing moves down) - which could mean &quot;only in crystal&quot;, or it could mean &quot;from crystal onwards&quot;. Currently, in Soul Silver, I'm breeding a Cyndaquil with extrasensory, and I tried to teach it heat wave at the same time (to save me tutoring it later) by breeding a Vulpix that knows it from Growlithe (egg move). Vulpix had Extrasensory and Heat Wave (and flamethrower and fire spin) when I bred it with Quilava, but the resulting Cyndaquil only knew extrasensory and flamethrower, despite the fact that Cyndaquil can be tutored Heat Wave (I wasn't expecting Fire Spin though). I think this means that move tutor moves are NOT passed down, but TMs are passed down no problem. I'd quite like to hear from anyone who's done a bit more research into this though - it might just be a flaw in the way I did the breeding (though I doubt it, since Extrasensory worked out fine). Oh - and I think that section should also include information about ditto-move-breeding. I know moves held by females aren't carried down when breeding with ditto - do male+ditto couples pass on moves held by the male, like normal? [[User:NLawson|NLawson]] 04:20, 5 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==POSSIBLE SPADING SOLUTION!!!==<br /> <br /> I don't know, but according to Smogon, there's some sort of step counter that resets at 255. Follow this link for more info. http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/breeding_guide_part2#steps_required<br /> [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] &lt;sup&gt;([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:24, 1 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Wow. I'm surprised that Smogon has a guide on stuff that has nothing to do with battling, and it has stuff that this wiki doesn't have. Anyway, I'll read it and try to incorporate it into this page.<br /> :What's the policy on crediting, anyway? --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 01:49, 2 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Confused ==<br /> <br /> On this page, it says that Nidorina and Nidoqueen can't be breed whatsoever, but [[No eggs (egg group)#Trivia|here]] it says that they can. Which one is true? [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] 19:11, 19 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> You misread the trivia, it says that &quot;for some reason their male counterparts can&quot;, which, of course, does not make sense. '''''[[User:GuyNamedSean|Sean...]] [[Dialga (Pokémon)|Lord]] [[User talk:GuyNamedSean|of the]] [[Darkrai (Pokémon)|Shadows!!!]]''''' 23:13, 14 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Shiny breeding ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I got a shiny male Tentacruel, and a female Corsola, the shine-effect will be given to the baby Corsola?&lt;br&gt;<br /> [[User:Homie|Homie]] 15:26, 10 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Not unless you're playing Gold/Silver, in which case there would be a higher chance of shininess. '''[[User:Optimatum|&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Comic Sands MS; color:black;&quot;&gt;Θρtιmαtum&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:Optimatum|&lt;span style=&quot;color:black;&quot;&gt;Talk&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/b&gt; 15:27, 10 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Everstone ==<br /> <br /> Can we punt/delete the Gen IV sentence that says that the Everstone trick doesn't work anymore? It still does and I've done it several times. [[User:Rappak|Rappak]] 20:54, 26 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Are you sure? Notice that it says it doesn't work when the two Pokémon are from different language cartridges. E.g., it doesn't work if you try to breed an American Pokémon and a Japanese Pokémon together.&amp;nbsp;&amp;mdash;&amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;sub&gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&lt;/sub&gt; 20:56, 26 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Let me double check the foriegn, but I know it works with two pokemon of the same cartridges. I'm almost positive it still works. [[User:Rappak|Rappak]] 21:20, 26 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Yes, it does work with two Pokémon from the same cartridge, but not with two foreign Pokémon, and that is what the article is referring to.&amp;nbsp;&amp;mdash;&amp;nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;sub&gt;([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> <br /> == Inbreedible Pokemon? ==<br /> Okay so I have this male Charizard that I want to breed so I can send the Charmander over to my Leaf Green Version. I put it in the daycare with SEVERAL DIFFERENT Dittos, each with a different nature. All of them did not have interest in my Charizard or vice-versa. I looked up the nature and noticed that it had a LAX nature (Charizard). Do I need a certain natured ditto or something to be able to breed? --[[User:Blaziken=Tahu|Blaziken=Tahu]] 03:02, 29 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Lack of interest does not mean they won't make an egg. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|¿Nos hablamos?]] 22:25, 31 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Just wait a bit longer and take any further &quot;how do I/what do I/where do I&quot; game related questions to {{BMGf||the forums}}. &amp;mdash; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000C8&quot;&gt;THE TROM&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] &amp;mdash; 22:32, 31 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> what was the exact message the guy said? if he said &quot;they dont seem to like each other&quot; that means they will still breed but it just takes a little while longer, if he said &quot;they prefer to play with other pokemon&quot; then they cant breed and never will [[User:Happizelpom|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7070&quot;&gt;Happi&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Happizelpom|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF8000&quot;&gt;zel&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#660099&quot;&gt;pom&lt;/span&gt;]] 22:54, 31 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :These quotations need to go in the article. &amp;mdash; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000C8&quot;&gt;THE TROM&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] &amp;mdash; 22:59, 31 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> yep, they'll still breed. Thanks alot everyone. --[[User:Blaziken=Tahu|Blaziken=Tahu]] 23:48, 31 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Genders ==<br /> <br /> When are they defined for the egg, when it is received or when it hatches? [[User:Anastius|Anastius]] 10:15, 1 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> :What do you mean by &quot;defined&quot;.--[[User:Clarky13|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;'''Clarky'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Clarky13|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;'''13'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 10:18, 1 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::In the game data - the user wishes to know if once the player receives the egg, the gender of the hatched Pokemon has already been set. In my experience, yes, along with the nature. But I could have just been really unlucky. &amp;mdash; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000C8&quot;&gt;THE TROM&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] &amp;mdash; 20:54, 1 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::: It is definitely set when it hatches. I have hatched an army of Scyther (trying to get one with a &quot;Rash&quot; nature) and the gender and nature were always the same for the pokemon, even if i saved the game before it hatched, had it do so, and restarted it. So yes, gender and nature are determined when the Egg is conceived. Also, if makes since if you think about the hereditary moves, TM it can learn, etc when you pick which Pokémon you want to breed to get the egg. --[[User:Blaziken=Tahu|Blaziken=Tahu]] 20:50, 6 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Egg Moves ==<br /> How are egg moves determined? I mean, theres a list of moves that can be learned by pokemon by breeding for each pokemon. Was that found out by testing, and so its possible there are others it could learn, or is there a certain list of moves that a pokemon can use determined by the game and so anything thats not listed can't ever be learned? ([[User:MaoDaAmargura|MaoDaAmargura]] 01:30, 4 February 2009 (UTC))<br /> :its shown in the official Guide books, and some are made off of users testing it. EG tangela has an unlisted move[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;Mock Me&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt; 02:48, 4 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::It's also in the game's internal coding. &amp;mdash; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000C8&quot;&gt;THE TROM&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] &amp;mdash; 06:31, 4 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Yes, but i think hes referring to how we found it. Not all of us can access the coding, I assure you.[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;Mock Me&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt; 01:33, 5 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I dont get it........ ==<br /> I had a male machamp which knew Revenge, cross chop, karete chop and dynamicunch<br /> but when i bred it with a ditto the baby only knew its starting moves(low kick and leer) i'mpretty sure machop can learn all of my machamps moves what happend--[[User:Bulbsur-ivysaur-venusaur|Bulbsur-ivysaur-venusaur]] 20:31, 20 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> :try breeding with a female machoke [[User:Ultamatecharizard|&lt;span style=&quot;background:#000000; color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;Ultamate&lt;/span&gt;]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|&lt;sub&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF5A00&quot;&gt;Charizard&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;]] 20:56, 20 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Need Explaination ==<br /> <br /> In the Trivia section it reads, &quot;No negative effects occur from inbreeding Pokémon in Generation III and Generation IV, despite this being impossible in Generation II.&quot; Can someone please explain this statement? - [[User:Zedd|Zedd]] 17:49, 23 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> :It may be referencing that, in real life, inbreeding can lead to developmental problems in the newborns, and so no such issues (always poor IVs, for example, or crappy natures) would occur in the Pokemon games. The second part is straightforward; you cannot breed a parent Pokemon with its offspring in G/S/C. I'm not sure if sibling breeding is allowed, however. [[User:Starscream|Starscream]] 14:05, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Is it mentioned anywhere in the article, other than in the trivia, about inbreeding being impossible in Generation II? I skimmed over the article and saw nothing, but I might be wrong. I suggest, if it isn't already there, someone do a little segment on this, as I didn't really notice this in-game and it's kinda interesting. I'd do it myself, but I don't know much about the breeding of Generation II, and I've lost Crystal right now, and my emulators are too laggy to play on my laptop. [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 15:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::@Star - Sibling breeding is allowed, the mechanics that prevent Parent-child breeding are related to IVs (or DV, as they were caled back then) and there is no relation on opposite sex siblings' IVs in GSC.<br /> :::@It does, in the &quot;Inheriting stats&quot; section. [[User:Mr. Charlie|&lt;font color=&quot;#000000&quot;&gt;'''Mr. Charlie'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000FF&quot;&gt;''TalkToMe''&lt;/font&gt;]])&lt;/small&gt; 15:38, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Actually, there is debate among scientific circles as to the validity of superstitions that inbreeding causes developmental defects. While more recent articles focus more on how this does lead to homozygosity and an increase in recessive alleles, an article from the Dept of Biostatistics study concludes that, &quot;No significant differences existed in the incidence of congenital anomalies among offspring between the consanguineous and non-consanguineous marriages in the rural or in the urban area.&quot; (Rao and Inbaraj, 1980). This doesn't necessarily write out its nature as a taboo subject in non-scholarly circles, but please enjoy just one of many scholarly articles on the subject, this one by the Dept of Biostatistics found in the Journal of Medical Genetics: [http://jmg.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/17/1/27 Inbreeding effects on fetal growth and development] I admit it's an older article, but newer articles tend to focus on studied genetic changes other than &quot;defects&quot;.&lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from {{u|PharosAM}} ([[User talk:PharosAM|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PharosAM|contribs]]) ''&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Tauros and Miltank again ==<br /> <br /> From the article: ''Note that while Miltank and Tauros are considered to be the female and male of the same species in the canon, for the purposes of breeding they are separate species''<br /> <br /> In what canon, exactly, are they considered &quot;male and female of the same species&quot;? Wouldn't, by nature of the fact that they cannot breed with each other to produce baby Tauros or Miltank, they NOT be [[User:Starscream|Starscream]] 20:55, 26 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> :??? They can breed with each other to produce baby Miltank... But I agree, not the same species, would like to hear what canon says so. Also, that bit about Volbeat and Nido♂ breeding with Ditto is interesting, {{tt|Pokémon must have ZW sex chromosomes|and no I am not going to campaign to have that included in the article}}. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 22:48, 27 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hatched Genders ==<br /> <br /> Has anyone figured out when a newly-hatched Pokémon's gender is set? Does it happen at the time of the egg's conception, or does it happen when it's hatched? --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 03:33, 13 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> :When it's received from the daycare. &lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Cracked; font-size:125%&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#303030;&quot;&gt;tc&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt;[[User:Tc26|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#e03828;&quot;&gt;²₆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Tc26|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#303030;&quot;&gt;tc&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User:Tc26/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#e03828;&quot;&gt;26&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt; 03:36, 13 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == A question about IVs... ==<br /> <br /> In HGSS, by using the EV Enhancers you can choose to pass a specific IV from a parent to their offspring. My question is this: Is it possible to have the passed down IV overwriten if the other parent passes down a higher IV of the same stat? For example, If I was trying to breed a Bronzong with a speed IV of zero and I used a Power Anklet to pass the zero stat from one parent, could the other parent then pass down it's higher speed IV, overwriting the IV I actually wanted? ~ [[User:Ender Phoenix|Ender Phoenix]] 00:46, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Yes. Me and some friends confirmed this by accident a while back when trying to breed for IVs. Furthermore, a lower IV can replace a higher one, which is what actually happened in our experiences. In my case, I was trying to breed a perfect Attack/Speed Scyther with Jolly nature from a perfect attack Scyther (holding a Power Bracer) and a perfect speed Volbeat (holding a Power Anklet). The first Jolly Scyther I got had perfect speed, but imperfect attack. Upon checking the Volbeat's IVs, it had indeed inherited the Volbeat's attack IV, overwriting the IV passed on by the Power Bracer. I think what this means is that the EV training items just force the first one or two IVs that are chosen (depending on how many you;re using) and then the last one/two is/are chosen randomly with the possibility of overwriting the previously passed IV(s). Anyway, I'm gonna go ahead and edit this into the article (minus the details of the experiment).&lt;br&gt; - [[User:Sensei Hanzo|Sensei Hanzo]] 15:16, 26 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Talking to the daycare ==<br /> <br /> Does talking to the daycare man outside to see how your pokémon are getting along have an effect on getting an egg? Cause I was cycling for quite a while and then I figured I should at least see how compatible my pokémon are with each other (which was &quot;They don't seem to like each other very much&quot; or something), then I went back to cycling around. My first lap and he has an egg, so is it just my luck or a requirement? Thanks in advance :) [[User:Adam0935|Adam0935]] 05:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> :No. The rate of getting an egg from a couple is explained [[Pokémon_breeding#Breeding_Rate.5B1.5D|here]]. It's all to do with species and ID number - you got lucky this time! &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 05:59, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Held Items ==<br /> <br /> Can a pokemon carry a held item when it has been hatched? I'm playing on HeartGold and I just caught Chansey in safari zone which took me freaking forever, about 3 hours. so if you kept breeding Chansey could one of the new pokemon be carrying a [[Lucky Egg]]. I really don't want to have to go around and catch another 19 Chansies if it's gonna take as long as the first one. [[User:Greenlikeblue]] 9:52, 5 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Er, no. I'm pretty sure that won't work. Sorry [[User:Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B69E00;&quot;&gt;&lt;sc&gt;Takharii&lt;/sc&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#929292;&quot;&gt;&lt;sc&gt;Talk!&lt;/sc&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 23:02, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Everstone and Nature inheritance from non-Ditto males in Diamond/Pearl ==<br /> Under the &quot;Inheriting Natures&quot; section, it says: &quot;In Generation IV inheriting Nature was changed a little. Whichever Pokémon is holding an Everstone will pass down its nature, '''regardless of gender''', or whether it is breeding with a ditto.&quot;<br /> <br /> The &quot;regardless of gender&quot; bit is problematic. It contradicts Smogon University's Breeding Guide (Part II), which states:<br /> <br /> &quot;In EDP, if a '''female''' Pokémon is holding the item Everstone and breeds with a male Pokémon, the baby will have a 50% chance of having the same nature as the female Pokémon. This also works if the Pokémon holding Everstone is Ditto.&quot;<br /> <br /> I am playing Diamond. To test, I've attempted to breed a Cubone with the Lonely nature by using a male Nidoran (Lonely nature) and a female Cubone (Hardy nature). The male Nidoran is holding an Everstone while in the Daycare. So far, it has produced '''29''' Cubones, spanning '''17''' different natures, '''none of which have the Lonely nature'''.<br /> <br /> While some players may have been successful with this method on HG/SS, I think the page should say that it may work in HG/SS but not in D/P. [[User:Fyda|Fyda]] 22:10, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I think you might just be misreading the paragraph... it's pretty widely known and obvious that males will never have a 50% chance of passing natures, in any game. Paragraph probably just needs rewording for clarification... unfortunately I'm terrible at that. orz ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#e072a9;&quot;&gt;ティナ&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#728084;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#728084;&quot;&gt;★&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:20, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Yes, that's the thing—I didn't expect it to be true, and testing it proved that it was definitely not true in Diamond. I think the offending sentence on the page is just plain ''wrong'', but there's a ''citation'' for it, which points to a forum thread where people claim to have gotten the Everstone trick to work on males for passing down their natures. Assuming they're not posting misinformation, I was wondering if this was a recent change to the Everstone trick that only occurred in HG/SS, while still not working in D/P/Pt. Right now the paragraph needs to be changed, and what I'd like to determine is whether it's A) completely false for any game in the series, or B) true only for specific games. [[User:Fyda|Fyda]] 07:18, 5 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Yeah, something's definitely wrong with the Generation IV natures part. On HeartGold I've had an adamant Ditto holding an Everstone and an Adamant Croagunk breeding. I hatched countless eggs and none of the Croagunks had an adamant nature. I get the feeling that breeding two pokemon with the same nature will '''NEVER''' result in a pokemon with that nature. I tried using a Croagunk with a naughty nature. none of the four Croagunks had an adamant nature. So that part where it talks about an everstone always passing on a nature is wrong. Does anyone have an idea how the everstone works in Gen IV? --[[User:Greenlikeblue|Greenlikeblue]] 05:55, 28 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Flame Body &amp; Magma Armor ==<br /> &quot;[...] Additionally, in Pokémon Emerald, if any Pokémon with Flame Body or Magma Armor is in the front of a player's party [...]&quot; As far as I'm concerned, they don't have to be in the first spot for the ability to work. Can anyone confirm this? --[[User:Arty2|Arty2]] 08:52, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I thought they had to be next to the egg... &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 23:32, 12 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Just tested it myself in Platinum: any team spot is fine for the effect to work. I think it's safe to assume it's been the same in Emerald too.[[User:Arty2|Arty2]] 05:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Lists of egg moves ==<br /> <br /> (Not actually about this page, rather about lists of moves learned by breeding, e.g. [[Pichu (Pokémon)#By breeding]].) Two questions:<br /> <br /> Firstly, where does the list of fathers come from? Is it programmed into the game that a given Pokémon can have a move passed down from X, Y or Z, or is it simply a list of all Pokémon that could both father this Pokémon and legitimately have the move?<br /> <br /> Secondly, why do we have lists of egg moves for Pokémon which cannot be the product of breeding, e.g. [[Raichu (Pokémon)#By breeding]]? Does this data exist in the game, and if so, how would one exploit it? Or have we merely copied the egg moves of its pre-evolved form? In the former case the list seems unnecessary, in the latter it seems both unnecessary and erroneous. [[User:Smithers888|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF1111;&quot;&gt;Smit&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Smithers888|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1111FF;&quot;&gt;hers&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Smithers888|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD733;&quot;&gt;888&lt;/span&gt;]] 22:24, 10 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The second one I can more or less answer. I would assume that it's there for convenience.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 22:38, 10 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The answer to your first question is that yes, it's just a list of all Pokémon which could both father the Pokémon and legitimately obtain the move. The answer to your second question is that the list is indeed copied from the pre-evolution's egg moves.<br /> :Both of these are for convenience, as Black Yin Zekrom explained. The lists of potential fathers would otherwise need to be obtained by comparing the list of Pokémon which could have the move and the list of which egg moves the desired Pokémon would have, which would be a lot of work which ought to be done by us beforehand, if we intend for people to use this site as a resource. The lists of egg moves for evolved Pokémon helps people who are building a competitive team to find which moves a fully-evolved Pokémon would have, without having to reference its first stage. It is extraneous, but it's also helpful for people who use Bulbapedia to make decisions regarding their games. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&lt;sup&gt;P&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;K&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;M&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;N&lt;/sub&gt;]] 23:04, 10 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::The first part is as I suspected. For the second part, I understand the reasoning, however it doesn't work completely. A player still has to browse the pre-evolved form's page to discover, for example, that Raichu could have Discharge, but only by level up as a Pikachu. --[[User:Smithers888|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF1111;&quot;&gt;Smit&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#1111FF;&quot;&gt;hers&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Smithers888|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD733;&quot;&gt;888&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:17, 11 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Well then, of course they would look it up or do research.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 02:45, 12 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::I think you have a point. Perhaps you ought to raise the question with a staff member (I'd ask [[User:TTEchidna|TTE]], as he's the editor-in-chief and does a lot of work on the page layout for Pokémon articles). --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&lt;sup&gt;P&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;K&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;M&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;N&lt;/sub&gt;]] 11:37, 12 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Generation II breeding ==<br /> <br /> Is Parent/offspring breeding COMPLETELY off the table in these games? Seems to me the only check is the IV one, but there are scenarios where it could be bypassed. For example, a male breeds with Ditto and produces a female. The male and Ditto obviously have different Defense and Special IVs (or Special +/- 8), and so the male parent and female offspring should also have different Defense and Special IVs. In this case, since they'd share the same egg groups, the game should allow them to breed, correct? [[User:Starscream|Starscream]] 22:00, 8 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Abilities Redux: Hidden abilities ==<br /> <br /> As mentioned [[Talk:Pokémon breeding#Abilities|at the beginning of the talk page]] there was previous rumors abilities could be passed down, but according to [[Pokémon Dream World#Breeding mechanics|this]], with the new hidden abilities this actually seems to be the case. So shouldn't this be included on the page? [[User:Tasty Salamanders|Tasty Salamanders]] 09:27, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Baruchai and Barujiina ==<br /> <br /> About the part of Illumise and Nidoran doing eggs of they counterparts... anyone tried to get Washibon and Wargle eggs from Baruchai and Barujiina, because their pages say that they are counterparts. I tried to breed a Baruchai and my male Kenhorou but no luck, although i only tried once. --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 00:51, 14 January 2011 (UTC)</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pok%C3%A9_Ball/Archive_1&diff=1295907 2010-12-28T01:03:43Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* BLUE pokeball */</p> <hr /> <div>==Fast Ball==<br /> Just wondering where Abra and Phanpy are coming from, as [http://pokefor.greenchu.de/meowth346/gbc/poke-balls/ Pokémon Forever states] &quot;If the wild Pokémon is Magnemite, Grimer, Tangela, Mr.Mime, Eevee, Porygon, Dratini, or Dragonair, then Catch Rate = Catch Rate * 4.0. Please note that while these Pokémon have a greater chance to catch, not all of them can be found in the wild.&quot;<br /> [[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 09:53, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'm curious, too. I see various sites that say things like &quot;Pokemon who can run away, like Teddiursa, Tangela, or Raikou&quot;, but the game stores a list of Pokemon whom the ball works better on, and that's what I used on PokéFor. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]] 21:09, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> In that case, somebody remove the two offending, untrue Pogeys?<br /> <br /> And Abra really shouldn't be on that list, as it uses Teleport; it doesn't actually run away... [[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 21:45, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)<br /> Teleport counts, though. The quick ball worked on Abra.[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 20:17, 12 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Should Anime-only Balls be included in this? I'm thinking of the Dark Balls and whatever it was that Sammy used from movie 4--BJG<br /> <br /> There was the Dark Ball and the GS Ball. That's all there have been. I think they would make a useful addition, though. [[User:Fabu-Vinny|Fabu-Vinny]] 19:22, 23 May 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==TCG sections==<br /> Shouldn't the page give hyper links to all of the Poké Balls featured in the cards? [[User:Mr. bell|Mr. Bell]] 08:49, 15 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hyper Ball in manga ==<br /> <br /> Do you think it's worth mentioning in the &quot;in the manga&quot; section about the existance of the Hyper Ball? Ash attempts to use it in the EToP manga at the end of issue 4, and is apparently very expensive. [[User:Fsilone|Fsilone]] 02:48, 21 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Isn't the Hyper Ball just the Japanese name of the Ultra Ball? &lt;span style=&quot;background:#FF9030&quot;&gt;'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|155|Fire echy}}&lt;span style=&quot;background:#664444&quot;&gt;[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD700&quot;&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E0E0E0&quot;&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;DS!&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;/span&gt; 03:00, 21 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::...yeah. It is. And it's rather expensive, too... [[User:Tina|Tina]]&lt;sup&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 03:03, 21 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Happiness Balls ==<br /> <br /> Shouldn't there be a note about the increased Happiness rating that Luxury Balls and Friend Balls produce on captured Pokemon? Or is that just a myth that has no bearing on the game data?<br /> :This is a good question, how come it wasn't answered? [[User:Felinoel|Felinoel]] 21:45, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Main Picture ==<br /> <br /> Is an SSBM trophy really appropriate for the main picture on this article? I think it should be a plain Pokéball without the trophy base at the bottom - [[User:MTC|MTC]]<br /> <br /> I think it looks a lot better, just a sharper image if you know what I mean. And it doesn't matter the source, a Poké Ball is a Poké Ball. [[User:Evkl|evkl]] 19:25, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I think the Same as MTC. It could be the picture of a Poké ball that is in the first opening possibly. [[user:David aipom|David aipom]]<br /> <br /> As long as the picture illustrates on how the ball looks like in the anime and games (which it does), the it is acceptable. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 18:17, 22 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Team Rocket Balls... ==<br /> <br /> I clearly remember seeing black balls thrown by the head of Team Rocket in &amp;quot;Mewtwo's Return&amp;quot; feature length episode. Now it's a bit sad since I juest returned the darn video to the rental store and check on this which I saw just moments ago! From my poor memeory I think they were just black pokeballs with the typicial Team Rocket red R instead of red dot.<br /> <br /> They were used to capture the running pokemon (Meoth, Pikachu and the cloned pokemons), though Mewtwo used it's psychich powers to release them, making them somewhat uninteresting...<br /> <br /> Actually, I think you're thinking of the PokéBalls being thrown by the Team Rocket grunts at the herd of Tauros that Mewtwo was lifting with Psychic.[[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 02:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ball Images ==<br /> <br /> The large images are nice, I admit, but perhaps using sprites would make the tables look neater and, by having ones for the Safari, Ultra and Master Balls, more complete? Given time, I could even make modifications of the sprites for the Generation II Balls. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 20:08, 11 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Replacing Images ==<br /> <br /> I don't think that the current images for Hoenn Balls and Poke and Great Ball are nice. I think they're ugly imitations of Sugimori Artwork. I have a Sugimori Artworks for almost all PokeBalls (the Johto ones are bad-qualited, though) and I think they're much better. I think we should replace the current images with the Sugimori's ones.<br /> :I dunno, I don't think the current ones look bad at all - just big, given how much they stretch the rows of the table. And how bad quality are you talking for the Johto ones? Call me a sprite fanatic, but I think the third generation item sprites would look best in the tables. The second generation ones would be missing, but, as I said, I could make some custom ones. Also, I'm not particularly fond of the anime Pokéball image, since it's so heavily pixelated... --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 01:36, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Actually... now that I think of it, perhaps both of our concerns can be dealt with more easily than I thought. Hold on just a little bit... --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 18:50, 20 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == One big vs. many small ==<br /> I've been talking with TTE. The idea of breaking some of the meat of this article up still bugs me on some level, but... well, might as well bring the idea to everyone.<br /> <br /> The idea, basically, is to start having articles for groups of items as well as individual. This one, for example, would be moved to &quot;Ball&quot;, and the lower section would link to the different articles on individual item types. If we do this for this one, we do it for all item groups...<br /> <br /> Thoughts? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] &lt;sup&gt;~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 02:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I think it'd be a good idea. After all, we have separate articles for every berry, why shouldn't we for Poké Balls and held items as well? Then, we could categorize them better, without having a gigantic page (which is what the page on [[held items]] is quickly becoming...).<br /> <br /> :C'mon, anyone else? --'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 21:55, 17 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Ooh, just had an idea. How about dividing the page into individual sections for each type of ball, going into detail about its catch rate, where it's able to be purchased, and so on? --'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 15:59, 14 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Thats a GREAT idea. We could have another template for all the balls. --[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad]] [[User talk:Usyflad10|&lt;font color=&quot;#42528C &quot;&gt;10&lt;/font&gt;''']] 23:21, 4 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Green Pokeball ==<br /> <br /> I uploaded this image i took from the first pokemon episode, but i cant get the sizeing right...Someone should take a look and stick it in the Anime section --[[User:Britannia's Blade|Britannia&amp;#39;s Blade]] 19:33, 23 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Handled. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] &lt;sup&gt;~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 19:53, 23 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Dive Ball ==<br /> What is the increase of efficiency for a dive ball when you are capturing a water/bug hybrid?<br /> :That's the Net Ball that raises the multiplier for Water or Bug Pokémon. Dive Ball in Gen III works better on Pokémon underwater, and in Gen IV works better on Pokémon you encounter while Surfing. Anyway, I think it doesn't stack, but I dunno. If it doesn't stack, it's as listed, but if it does, it's 9x. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 00:19, 21 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Does the Dive Ball really have an increased effect while Surfing in D/P? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 02:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::I Belive it does. It's text says so. I don't know the rate though.<br /> <br /> == Sir Aaron's Staff and the passage of time within the ball. ==<br /> <br /> Should Sir Aaron's Staff be considered a pre-pokéball object as well? Also, should it be noted about how time passes for pokémon contained within pokéballs? There have been a few instances where pokémon have spent of years, centuries even, within a pokéball/pokéball like object and not aging or feeling any sort of passage of time.<br /> <br /> I think so, it is a method of capturing a Pokémon. &lt;big&gt;[[Image:Ani137MS.gif]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User:Tesh|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F05030;&quot;&gt;'''TESH'''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;[[Image:Ani233MS.gif]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User Talk:Tesh|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA;&quot;&gt;'''TALK'''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt; [[Image:Ani474MS.gif]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User:Tesh/Other|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#EEC226;&quot;&gt;'''FUN'''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/big&gt; 16:41, 15 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> This is my fist post (or edit, I'm new)<br /> The passage of time seems to vary between pokéball and pokéball like objects, when in pokéballs, pokémon seem to be conscious (as trainers give commands before releasing them) but don't physically age, but in some other pokéball like object, time passes as if there sleeping while there in the object. amaster6000 11:12, 17 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :There is obviously very little passage of time in Aaron's staff; long enough for Lucario to stew in his rage, but quick enough apparently for him to still be blind. Also remember that most of those centuries-old Pokémon are usually special specimens--often a Psychic-type or something like [[Lokoko]].--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] &lt;small&gt;•&lt;/small&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 14:58, 17 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Lv 2 wurmple breaks master ball ==<br /> <br /> i know the copy is hacked, but how did this happen &lt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqw7bL2HK3E&amp;feature=related&gt;<br /> its supposed that a master ball never breaks<br /> :That's a Great Ball. Dur. {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;n&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe &lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7BBD;&quot;&gt;δ&lt;/span&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|282}}&lt;/sup&gt; 19:56, 15 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Gen IV Park Ball ==<br /> Are the links to the Gen II games really necessary? I know that some people have been using it's resemblance to the GS Ball to support the idea of a Gen IV remake of Gold and Silver, but without an actual statement from Nintendo or Game Freak, should we really make it seem like such speculation is factual? --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 13:25, 25 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> == Hey, look what I found! ==<br /> Hey, I was surfing through Youtube the other day, and look what I found! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAfAKDFPw0o There's a planet in the &quot;Bouy Base Galaxy&quot; in Super Mario Galaxy that looks like a Poké Ball! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7F00&quot;&gt;Theryguy&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 00:33, 1 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The videos been removed :( But i found a new link http://youtube.com/watch?v=MweOaEzAesw [[user:David aipom|David aipom]]<br /> <br /> == Jelly Donuts? ==<br /> Umm, in the anime section of the article, someone links to a Rice Ball as a Jelly Donut. I don't think it should be referred to as this, regardless of what 4Kids calls it. [[User:Shonen Jump Master|Shonen Jump Master]] 15:45, 23 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ball capsulses ==<br /> <br /> Should we mention ball capsules in this article?[[User:Darkmaster0|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#BBBBBB;&quot;&gt;Darkmaster&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Darkmaster0|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#AAAAAA;&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt;]]15:48, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Not really, they are not significant to the pokeball at all[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;'''C '''&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;'''Is'''&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;'''for Cookie'''&lt;/span&gt;]]<br /> ::What do you mean they have nothing to do with the Poké Ball? I think they should be mentioned somewhere in the article. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7F00&quot;&gt;Theryguy&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 22:46, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::Same here, I think so too. With a (brief) list of the Seals, maybe? [[User:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;Tina&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]]{{ani|281}}&lt;/sup&gt; 22:49, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == &quot;You missed the Pokémon!&quot; ==<br /> <br /> I'm not sure where to include this, but it was possible to see ^that message^ when throwing a Pokéball in Generation I. &lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF&quot;&gt;--'''''Posted by'''''&lt;/span&gt; [[User:Deadlymethane|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#7BA05B&quot;&gt;'''''Deadly'''''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Deadlymethane|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#7BA05B&quot;&gt;'''''methane'''''&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;span style=&quot;color:#DA3287&quot;&gt;'''at'''&lt;/span&gt; 21:12, 29 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I remember... Stupid Safari Zone... '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:21, 30 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> I took the liberty of adding it myself. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 13:16, 4 May 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Heavy Ball? ==<br /> <br /> It says that heavy ball is &quot;+20 +30 -10&quot;<br /> What does that mean? +X to the catch rate? or what?<br /> --[[User:MewUser|MewUser]] 17:16, 4 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Heavy Ball added to the catch rate, So a +30 on a catch rate of 3 would make it catch rate 33. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 17:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> From the information given on the page, Snorlax would be the only Gen II pokemon to get the +30 and the +20 would rare as well e.g. Graveler is only 105Kg and HO-OH is only 199Kg [[User:Tzion|Tzion]] 22:35, 18 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == the old ball ==<br /> <br /> did you put in that old ball from pokemon 4 ever the movie. the picture is at http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/90/Old_Poké_Ball_from_Pokémon_4Ever.png/180px-Old_Poké_Ball_from_Pokémon_4Ever.png {{unsigned|Talvin7111}}<br /> &lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;<br /> We need a better quality picture than that, surely? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 00:33, 2 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> :The only image I could find was Wiipedia's: [[:Wikipedia:Image:Old Poké Ball from Pokémon 4Ever.png]]. Isn't there a better screenshot? &lt;font color=&quot;#788878&quot;&gt;→&lt;/font&gt;&amp;nbsp;[[User:C Teng|&lt;font color=&quot;#3366BB&quot;&gt;C&amp;nbsp;Teng&lt;/font&gt;]]&amp;nbsp;[[User talk:C Teng|&lt;font color=&quot;#E32636&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[talk]&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]] 13:10, 30 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::I don't know how to replace an existing image so could someone do it for me? [http://img178.yfrog.com/gal.php?g=48637373.jpg Old Poké_Ball] I took these screenshots from the DVD at 16:9. Click on the image for their full size. [[User:Coololz352|Coololz352]] 00:21, 8 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::The image needs to be uploaded to the archives, then the image can be replaced. Preferably the image would be retaken as a png, rather than a jpg though, as they are better quality (although with the current image I'm sure it can be overlooked). To upload images, go to the archives (in the side bar) and log in with your Bulbapedia username and password, then upload the image, e.g. to ''Sammy's_Old_Poké_Ball.png'' or something similar. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;small&gt;(talk)&lt;/small&gt;]] 06:25, 8 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Poké Ball Images ==<br /> <br /> The larger images for the &quot;Generation II Poké Balls&quot; are not showing up. It is just showing the name of the images. Is this just me?--[[User:Mjr162006|Mjr162006]] 03:47, 24 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br&gt;&lt;small&gt;Yeah, I'm new here.&lt;/small&gt;<br /> :Never mind.I cant see them either[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:##800000;&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/span&gt;]]<br /> <br /> ::It looks like the images were either deleted, or never existed in the first place.--[[User:Mjr162006|Mjr162006]] 04:03, 24 August 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::They were there.I remember seeing them.......A MYSTERY![[User:Darth Cookie Monster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:##800000;&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/span&gt;]]<br /> <br /> ::::It is just a wild guess, but could this have anything to do with the recent upgrade to MediaWiki 1.13.0? Sometimes things can accidentally get lost when the wiki software is updated. I know that has happened more than once at Zelda Wiki.org (my main wiki).--[[User:Mjr162006|Mjr162006]] 04:17, 24 August 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Generation II ==<br /> <br /> Generation II has no Poké Ball sprites?&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Calibri&quot;&gt;~[[User:Pokemaniac102|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#AAAAFF;&quot;&gt;Ποκε&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFAAAA;&quot;&gt;μανιακ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#999999;&quot;&gt;α0β&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt; 17:21, 19 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> *There were no pokéball sprites. [[User:Phocks|Phocks ~ Come dance with me!]] 09:15, 30 October 2008.<br /> <br /> == Origin of the Concept? ==<br /> <br /> &quot;In the series, Ultraseven, when unable to fight (usually because his Ultra Eye has been stolen), Dan will often produce a small capsule that releases a giant-sized monster to fight in his place.&quot;<br /> <br /> Now I'm not sure if this is true or not, but I believe the concept of &quot;Keeping Pokémon inside Pokéballs&quot; originated from Ultraseven. --[[User:Arima|Arima]] 00:52, 13 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> :&quot;Originate&quot; seems to strong a word. Inspired by, possibly. Worth a mention on the page, maybe. State as fact a connection that's at best speculation, unless we hear that Satoshi Tajiri said something in an interview confirming that Ultraseven is where he got the concept...not such a good idea. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 01:48, 13 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::GASP! OR MAYBE ITS INSPIRED BY THE TALE OF GENIES! MYSTICAL BEINGS BEING KEPT IN CONTAINERS AND FORCED TO DO BATTLE WITH EACH OTHER.<br /> :::Dont put that nonsense on the page. Their are so many other references its not worth it--[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;Shut the **** up&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Spy on My Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> ::::Genies don't even battle. They grant wishes. Besides, that sounds ridiculous.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:51, 10 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::Exactly why he said don't put that stuff in there. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 04:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == About the Master Ball... ==<br /> Should we include the locations of the master balls from games? Or is that off-topic. And if yes, where shall we put it? --[[User:Metagross72|Metagross72]] 04:45, 2 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Thats a valid point, but no, that would seem like overkill[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;曲奇饼妖怪&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Spy on My Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> ::I Think that this article should tell about the locations of the Poké Ball kinds, or at least where to buy them because I'm getting agravated from having to run all over Sinnoh just to buy a Dusk Ball. [[User:Dolphin2|Dolphins_are_awesome!]] 16:45, 20 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::No. We are an encyclopedia, not a strategy guide.[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;曲奇饼妖怪&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Spy on My Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ::::I know! I'll make a page called Locations of Master Balls! I got this idea from [[Locations of TMs]]. I'll do that right now! --[[User:Metagross72|Metagross72]] 23:58, 28 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::: That'll get everyone getting Masterballs, But no, we don't need another article which is highly likely to get deleted in less then 0.11111111111111111111 seconds.--[[User:Force Fire|&lt;font color=&quot;FF7777&quot;&gt;FF&lt;/font&gt;]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|&lt;font color=&quot;7777FF&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;edits&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]]-[[User talk:Force Fire|&lt;font color=&quot;28E228&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;talk&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]]) 00:12, 29 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Maybe Locations of limited availibilty Poké Balls? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|¿Nos hablamos?]] 00:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Such as? [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 04:34, 30 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Reviving something old here, but really. The Master Ball is an important part of the game, just because we list where you can obtain one doesn't make us a &quot;strategy guide&quot;, in my opinion it makes us more like an encyclopedia as an encyclopedia tries to have '''all''' the information on something, including the locations of things. Making a new article is taking it a little too far, but if it hasn't been done already (and I skimmed through the article and it seems to not have been done) we should list the locations of the Master Balls. That and a lot of people are probably going to want to know where too find them. [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 21:28, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I agree with that. In Kanto it was a gift from the Silph president, Johto I don't know because I never bought the games, Hoenn in the Aqua/Magma hideout in R/S and then Aqua hideout in E, and then Cyrus gives it to you in D/P/Pt. Unless that's only in Pt. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 21:54, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::Elm gives you the Master Ball in GSC. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 22:01, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::And now someone just needs to figure out a neat (as in, tidy) was of adding the information onto the article... I recommend in a table/box kinda thing, I'd do it myself but I'm both busy, and I have no idea how too. xD Sorry I'm not much help. [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 22:25, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::::How about this?<br /> {| {{bluetable2|c sortable}} align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #ccf;&quot;<br /> ! Generation<br /> ! Game(s)<br /> ! Location<br /> ! Requirements<br /> ! Notes<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation I|I]]<br /> | {{game|Green}}, {{2v|Red|Blue}}, {{game|Yellow}}<br /> | [[Silph Co.]] <br /> | Talk to the president after defeating [[Giovanni]].<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation II|II]]<br /> | {{3v|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}<br /> | [[Professor Elm]]'s laboratory<br /> | Talk to Professor Elm after earning all eight badges.<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation II|II]]<br /> | {{3v|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}<br /> | [[Johto Radio Tower]]<br /> | Match all 5 numbers in the [[Lucky Number Show]].<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation III|III]]<br /> | {{game|Ruby}} <br /> | [[Magma Hideout]], [[Maxie]]'s office <br /> | None<br /> | Entrance is blocked off after battling {{p|Groudon}}.<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation III|III]]<br /> | {{game|Sapphire}}, {{game|Emerald}} <br /> | [[Aqua Hideout]], [[Archie]]'s office <br /> | None<br /> | Entrance is blocked off after battling {{p|Kyogre}}. (Sapphire only)<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation III|III]]<br /> | {{3v|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}<br /> | [[Lilycove Department Store]] <br /> | Defeat your rival in front of the store, match all 5 numbers in the lottery.<br /> | <br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation III|III]]<br /> | {{g|Colosseum}}<br /> | [[Agate Village]] <br /> | Recieve incomplete email from [[Eagun]] in [[Realgam Tower]]<br /> | Eagun's email is cut off before it can mention the Master Ball.<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation III|III]]<br /> | {{g|XD}} <br /> | [[Pokémon HQ Lab]] <br /> | Talk to [[Professor Krane]] before heading to [[Citadark Isle]]<br /> | <br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation III|III]]<br /> | {{2v|FireRed|LeafGreen}}<br /> | [[Silph Co.]] <br /> | Talk to the president after defeating [[Giovanni]]<br /> | <br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation IV|IV]]<br /> | {{3v|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}<br /> | [[Galactic Veilstone Building]] <br /> | Defeat [[Cyrus]]<br /> | <br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation IV|IV]]<br /> | {{3v|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}<br /> | [[Jubilife TV]] <br /> | Earn the {{badge|Coal}}, defeat the [[Galactic Grunt]]s near the northern exit of [[Jubilife City]], match all 5 numbers in the lottery.<br /> | <br /> |-<br /> &lt;!--| [[Generation IV|IV]]<br /> | {{2v|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}<br /> | [[Professor Elm]]'s laboratory <br /> | Talk to Professor Elm after earning all eight badges.<br /> | Probably not a good idea to reveal this bit until after the games are released, eh?<br /> |- --&gt;<br /> |}<br /> <br /> Is this any good? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] &lt;small&gt;[[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]]&lt;/small&gt; 23:07, 9 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah I think that looks pretty good. :D Anyone have any objections? [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 23:57, 9 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::If there are no objections, and I don't think there are any, I'll just go ahead and put this on the page now. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] &lt;small&gt;[[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]]&lt;/small&gt; 00:41, 10 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::It doesn't really look like it fits at its current place. Maybe would could make a page exclusive to masterballs as we could do some in the anime stuff and put this table there... we could also add screenshots of where the masterballs are found. Additionally the table isn't quite consistent as it says after battling Kyogre (Sapphire only) it should also say after battling Groudon (Ruby only). Otherwise, everything is great. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 00:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::The (Sapphire only) part is because Sapphire&amp;Emerald have the Aqua hideout. It's only blocked in Sapphire, not Emerald. That's why it's there. As for the chart, if it could be made a bit smaller and collapsible, or at least smaller, then it would be a bit better. And if it can't be made smaller, then collapsible would probably be fine. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 14:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::Making it collapsible is a better option than making a whole page dedicated too the Master Balls I guess. [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 14:33, 10 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::It's way better than a separate page, because then we'd have to make one for every single Poké Ball. The only real significance between it and the others is that it never fails, and there's only one per game unless you get extremely lucky at the lottery. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 14:38, 10 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Yeah, I mean, I'm actually neutral too the idea of a separate page for the Master Balls, as in my opinion there's kinda important, but meh. [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 14:57, 10 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Opponent's only keep Pokémon in Poké Balls? ==<br /> <br /> &quot;In the games, all opponents keep their Pokémon in Poké Balls. The reason for this is unknown.&quot;<br /> <br /> Whoever put this up, what is this supposed to mean? If you mean they always keep them in Balls, then it's false, because there are countless trainers in-game that let their Pokémon wander around, and in Colosseum and XD you can even battle them, but they'll go back into their Ball pre-battle.<br /> <br /> I interpreted as the type of Ball, since it's true all opponents keep them in Poké Balls, not Ultra Balls or whatever, but since there's contention, I think some real clarification would be nice. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:39, 27 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I sure of seen some other ball somewhere, but thats besides the point. I interpreted it as in the case of Ash's Pikachu, not being in the pokeball, but battling in the anime, while the jigglypuff in yellow version and a machop in gold couldnt battle, but you could see the walking around[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;曲奇饼妖怪&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Spy on My Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> ::Then it's not true that all opponents keep their Pokémon in their Balls. Best example is the Shadow Lugia in XD, who was definitely not kept in a Ball.[[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:46, 27 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::Did an opponent use it? Was it ever &quot;captured&quot; in anyway?[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;曲奇饼妖怪&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Spy on My Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> ::::Yes, Greevil clearly commanded it to attack and it did, not to mention you had to use a Snag Ball to catch it, not a regular Ball like the wild Pokémon. There are other examples in that game. In Phenac, a Peon is talking to his Absol before you battle him, and he uses the Absol in battle. In Agate Village, there is an old woman standing with a Mightyena and if you choose to battle her, she uses the Mightyena. Eagun also keeps his Pikachu out but still uses it to battle. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:55, 27 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Non main game but ok. Im gonna go locate that trainer with the safari zone. Keep it the way you have it[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;曲奇饼妖怪&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Spy on My Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt; 04:57, 27 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: You're all missing the point, I think that who first posted this was trying to say that when you battle another trainer they always send out their Pokémon in normal Poké Balls, you know, because I've never seen an in-game opponent sending out any Pokémon in a, say, Master Ball. However, why is this important, I mean, yeah it's true, but I don't think is something we should see in the article, or is it important? I may be wrong.--[[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 18:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Apricorn Balls ==<br /> <br /> There is what looks to be official images of the Apricorn Balls at this photobucket account [http://s280.photobucket.com/albums/kk200/sexton_06/Weapons/] as well as some better quality images of the Hoenn balls here [http://s113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/Sckar_2006/Animes/Pokemon/Pokebolas/?start=0] There is also better quality images of the [http://media.photobucket.com/image/dusk%20ball/CL4M9/DuskBall.png?o=3] Dusk Ball, [http://s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc32/Marcos98/?action=view&amp;current=heal.jpg] Heal Ball and [http://s265.photobucket.com/albums/ii239/CL4M9/?action=view&amp;current=CherishBall.png] Cherish Ball. Just throwing them out there to see if you want to use them. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 13:00, 19 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Question about quick ball and timer ball ==<br /> <br /> What classes as a turn? Is it every one of YOUR turns, or the total amount of turns in battle?<br /> ie<br /> You use false swipe,<br /> Pokemon uses hyper beam,<br /> Would this be counted by the game as 1 turn or 2? --[[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 22:34, 20 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :one turn.--&lt;small&gt;[[Flash Fire (ability)|&lt;font color=&quot;turquoise&quot;&gt;freezing&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;[[Heat Wave (move)|&lt;font color=&quot;teal&quot;&gt;COLD&lt;/font&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;&lt;sub&gt;([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]])&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/small&gt; 22:35, 20 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Dusk Ball ==<br /> <br /> Dusk Ball is in effect while in a forest? I mean... do forests like Eterna activate the ''night'' effect of the Dusk Ball? Or is it in effect at night only? '''[[User:Hfc2x|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#008800&quot;&gt;h&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;fc&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#008800&quot;&gt;X&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 20:05, 23 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Good question. I know it works everywhere at night and in caves 24/7... But in forests? That's a good question. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]].....[[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|IT IS TIME!]] 20:15, 23 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 3D Picture ==<br /> <br /> Don't you think it would be better to have Ken Sugimori's artwork for the Poké Ball instead of that 3D Picture? It's not really official artwork and looks nothing like the balls in the anime! I think if we used Ken Sugimori's artwork it would give people more of a general idea of what Poké Balls actually look like. Just an idea! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 12:09, 25 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Do you have one? --☆'''[[User:Kevzo8|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A2958D&quot;&gt;Ke&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B8B8D0&quot;&gt;vz&lt;/span&gt;]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#705898&quot;&gt;o8&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 12:18, 25 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> Why don't you just use the Pokeball pic from the chart down the page. I believe that it's a Sugimori.--[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad10]] 01:28, 25 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Anime Pokeballs ==<br /> <br /> Half the anime pokeballs are actully just customized pokeballs painted to look unique, namely the Lake Ball, Chansey ball, Green Pokeball and Rocket Ball. The game series also suggest that custom poke balls exist in this manner; when you deliver Oak's Parcel he states it's a custom ordered Poke Ball. By listeing these under the heading &quot;Customized Pokeballs&quot; we can save some space.--[[User:Lego3400|Lego3400]] 23:49, 2 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Rich lady expensive custom ball ==<br /> <br /> I remember a episode where a rich lady gets a custom ball from a jewelry store (like you would get a watch.) I can't remember if the woman had a snubull or if it was that female meowth that inspired TR Meowth to learn to talk. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 21:43, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Probably {{TP|Madame Muchmoney|Snubbull}}. It sounds about right. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 21:51, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::but why is there no mention of these novelty or should i say costume (like fake jewelry) balls? [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 22:34, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::No, no no, Hunter Blade. It was Meowzee (spelling?) the Meowth whose Poké Ball had loads off jewelry on it. If my memory serves right. [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 23:03, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::: I think I'm going just add something about the option of buying custom balls for pets. ^_^;; [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 23:22, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::: Added. geez.... I'd Marry a Wobbufet or become a Mormon and marry Jessie and Jessiebelle before Meowzie's owner. Woman had me pulling a Fred G. Sanford.<br /> <br /> ::::: It seems that the basic outer appearance is the same, just the ball Meowzie's owner bought was diamond studded. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 00:05, 9 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Brock, Ninetales and breaking the ball? ==<br /> <br /> In the last part of the mechanics section it says Brock breaks his ball after releasing Ninetales ? that can't be right, his article says noting about a Ninetales being in his procession and i don't remember him having one or breaking a ball [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 00:58, 9 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> :[[EP232]]. Last paragraph of the synopsis. &amp;mdash; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000C8&quot;&gt;THE TROM&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] &amp;mdash; 01:04, 9 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: It needs rewording, it makes it sound like brock was the one who broke the ball. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 01:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Green Poké Ball ==<br /> <br /> Does Gold's Gold and Silver pic have one, just to mention?--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 23:53, 18 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == TCG ==<br /> <br /> Where's the link to the regular Poké Ball card? Nowhere. Off to link it.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FE2E9A&quot;&gt;''Mew''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;span class=&quot;explain&quot; title=&quot;Prmatt11 or Mew are my ONLY names!&quot;&gt;*&lt;/span&gt; [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' was here at 11:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I agree, they really need to put the Pokémon card!--[[User:The Bulb&amp;#39;s Master|The Bulb&amp;#39;s Master]] 02:06, 3 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Timer Ball... ==<br /> <br /> Does the Timer Ball increase in...<br /> :a) turns after start<br /> :b) turns after last Poké Ball (from start if none)<br /> :c) turns after last Timer Ball (from start if none)<br /> <br /> ...? &lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] ([[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Giratina's_Embodiment|contribs]])'' &lt;/small&gt; 18:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> :After the start of the battle. You can alternatively think of this as 'since the wild Pokémon appeared'. This has been noted in the article. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 20:15, 4 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Johto ball art ==<br /> <br /> YAY<br /> <br /> Okay so how soon can we get that in here? '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 02:55, 10 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == the heavy ball ==<br /> <br /> So the heavy ball takes 30 away from the catch rate if the pokemon is under 100kg, what if a pokemon already has a catch rate lower than 30 and is under 100kg? ie the [[lake trio]] and [[cresselia]], would their catch rate be a negative value? Would it be even possible to catch them in a heavy ball? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 12:10, 11 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Well I managed to get Raikou in a heavy ball which, according to this page, would have meant Raikou had a catch rate of -17 because his weight is lower than 451.5 lbs (it's 392.4 lbs). So it either doesn't take any more off the catch rate when it's 3 or I got very very lucky. [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 00:50, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == safari ball art ==<br /> <br /> in the platinum guidebook, there is a picture of safarai ball. why is the picture of the safari ball here fanmade? -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 09:44, 12 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Because no one's uploaded it. Feel free to tidy it up and upload it yourself. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 09:59, 12 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == HGSS/DPPt? ==<br /> <br /> Since the balls in HG and SS are not programmed into DP and Pt, will trading between the two games be possible if using an apricorn ball? I don't know how they'd make that work. [[User:Dexington|Dexington]] 19:35, 17 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> :No one does at this stage. There are plenty of speculations on the Bulbagarden Forums, if you'd like to discuss this further. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 19:58, 17 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Has this been explored any further yet?--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 22:38, 15 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Gen II balls become Poké Balls. They cannot be held. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 04:18, 16 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::What happens if they are traded back? Does stay a PokéBall, or does it change back to what they were caught in? This sort of thing should go in the page. (Or was it already?)[[User:Poisson14|Poisson14]] 02:56, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::Are you sure? If I try to view a pokemon that was caught in a HGSS-only ball on my pearl cart (via the trade screen), it crashes. Any pokemon in HGSS-only balls also appear as bad eggs in PBR. --[[User:Pyritie|Pyritie]] 11:23, 15 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::HGSS Balls -&gt; plain Poké Balls. Just tested it. I don't have PBR, so I can't test that. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:47, 15 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Hmm, odd... no idea what's causing the problem then. --[[User:Pyritie|Pyritie]] 12:14, 16 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Could be because of a hacking code gone wrong. If you didn't hack, it could be some sort of hardware glitch or someone else might have hacked it (if lent to somebody for some time or bought as a used game). [[User:Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#CD7F32&quot;&gt;Turtwig's&lt;/font&gt;]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF7F00&quot;&gt;A-B-Cs&lt;/font&gt;]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#green&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/font&gt;]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#yellow&quot;&gt;contribs&lt;/font&gt;]]) 00:29, 17 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Possibly trivia ==<br /> <br /> I have noticed in the anime, NO one throws the ball with their left hand ever (Excluding throwing 2 or more balls at the same time) --[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 18:12, 22 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Other manga? ==<br /> <br /> What are Pokeballs like in other manga? I know in D&amp;P Adventures, they're similar to Special's view on Pokeballs. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 00:24, 12 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Fast Ball ==<br /> <br /> according to serebii the fast ball works on pokemon with a &quot;high speed&quot; in HGSS instead of pokemon that flee. The rest look the same as GSC. Does anyone know what/can find out what the threshold for the pokemon's speed is for it work. And is based on a pokemon's base stats, it's actual stats, or their nature? http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/apricorns.shtml [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 16:38, 16 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Compé? ==<br /> <br /> Why on the Earth is &quot;Compe Ball&quot; spell as &quot;Compé&quot;? That makes no sense. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 13:51, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :And why is it called Compe or Compé anyway? It's Park Ball. Anyone who played GSC knows that. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] &lt;small&gt;[[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]]&lt;/small&gt; 16:05, 24 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Thing is, that's how it was in GSC. They changed the name of the Park Ball in HGSS to the &quot;Compe Ball&quot; as to avoid confusion with the ball used in Pal Park. I don't see why we can't add some alt-text saying &quot;Park Ball in Generation II&quot;, though... →''[[User:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B16ABB;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;'''T'''&lt;/u&gt;inā&lt;/span&gt;]]'' &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B16ABB;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B16ABB;&quot;&gt;★&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 16:25, 24 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Good idea, Tina. I've done that. And if anyone else is really confused about the naming like I was (although it may seem obvious), it's the '''compe'''tition ball :D &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 07:06, 25 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> : A Poké Ball for the Bug-Catching Compe-tition? --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 01:45, 21 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Master Ball locations section ==<br /> <br /> Uh...shouldn't we use a new template for the '''List of Master Ball locations in the games''' section of this page?<br /> <br /> Since, you know, it looks kinda bland compared to the rest of the lists, which use the new ones...thoughts about this? --[[User:InfinityByZero|InfinityByZero]] 23:05, 20 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Master Ball Should Have Own Page==<br /> <br /> Maybe it should have it's own page. Because it is way more important than a Poke Ball. Or maybe all the balls should have their own page, the exception being the Gen II balls, which should have a collective page. I could do this with some help. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 14:35, 3 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Nah. The new item template will make it perfect. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 05:17, 14 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Three days ==<br /> <br /> I should finish it tomorrow, though.　Major major major edit. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 10:02, 14 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The Safari and Park Balls ==<br /> <br /> So I'm a bit confused here. In every generation there have been Safari Balls or Park Balls, yet we only have three images for Safari/Park Balls and no mention of their different appearances. There should exist:<br /> Gen. 1: Safari Balls (no sprites exist but should have official artwork);<br /> Gen. 2: Park Balls (GSC);<br /> Gen. 3: Safari Balls (for Emerald and FRLG);<br /> Gen. 4: Park Balls (DPP)*, Safari Balls (DP&amp;P)*, Compé Balls (HGSS)*, plus possibly HGSS Safari Balls. (*We have these.)<br /> I'd personally like to see a note on the page mentioning that there have been several different forms for Safari Ball, with pics if possible. (I seem to remember that Gen. 1 Safari Balls were green with a black &quot;S&quot; on them and that Gen. 3 had spikey orange designs on lime green.)<br /> Also, this might help when looking for refs... and inconsistencies: http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Safari_ball_issues.jpg<br /> [[User:Norle|Norle]]<br /> :Um... we don't need Gen I ones, because it's stricly game sprites only. I have emerald, but need help getting screenshots. I COULD ALSO PROVE THE CELEBI GLITCH WITH SCREENSHOTS! [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:25, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Norle has some very good points. Unfortunently this is the Pokémon fandom, where good points are ignored and wild speculation is ripe. These variations on the Safari Balls sound interesting. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 15:01, 3 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Lucian's Comments ==<br /> <br /> Well I was playing my Pokemon Platinum game one day and I saw Lucian in the Canalave Library, which surprised me. He told me that Pokemon instinctively curl into a ball to recuperate and that is why they'll be caught by a Pokeball. Unfortunately, I don't have his exact words. This event happened on a Thursday between 5 and 6pm and I had already beaten the Elite Four once. I didn't see anything about what he said on the Pokeball page and I didn't know if anyone else here has gotten to talk to Lucian at the library. It was interesting information but I didn't know if that should be added to the page or not. {{unsigned|Kitty}}<br /> :Lucian appears at the library after beating the E4. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 20:51, 6 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Fiore ==<br /> <br /> Someone should add the fact that there are no Poke Balls in Fiore. Maybe in Almia, too, but I don't know for sure whether Poke Balls are used there. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] &lt;sup&gt;([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:54, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Moon Ball? ==<br /> Does this ball give the multiplier for just Nidorina, Nidorino, Jigglypuff, Clefairy, and Skitty, or to everyone in their respective families? Also, does it even give the multiplier to Skitty?--[[User:Bulbafreak9000|Bulbafreak9000]] 04:30, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Skitty evolves with the Moon Stone, so yes. It's not available in the wild, though, so the only way to ''legitimately'' get that bonus is to have a Ditto transform into one. And personally I always wondered if it gave the multiplier to the whole family... Doubt it in Gen II, stuff was primitive then, but in IV, I'd imagine so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#80964B&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C4E673&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 20:48, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Premier Ball sell price ==<br /> As far as I can tell, Premier Balls sell for 100, not 500. (Checked in my copies of Sapphire and Platinum.) [[User:Glass Coyote|Glass Coyote]] 00:19, 15 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I'll change it when it's unprotected. Or an admin might change it. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 04:43, 15 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == g template ==<br /> <br /> We have a few of them floating around on this page. Colosseum and XD under &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9_Ball#Pok.C3.A9_Ball_accuracy here]&lt;/span&gt; and Snap under &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9_Ball#In_the_games here]&lt;/span&gt;. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 19:35, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :''Those'' G's are supposed to be there. We don't frown upon that template's usage when it's used for the names of video games--in fact, that's the intended purpose of the template. It's the &quot;lazy&quot; usages, those that aren't names of video games, that we frown upon--simply put, anything that read stuff such as &lt;nowiki&gt;{{g|anime}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;, &lt;nowiki&gt;{{g|Center}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;, &lt;nowiki&gt;{{g|Sunday}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;, &lt;nowiki&gt;{{g|Special}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; (this was before the big to-Adventures move that happened early November 2009), and the like were bound to get relinked. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:45, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Oooh, ok. That makes sense, although I'm pretty sure this is the only page that has them still on it. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 05:10, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::[[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:G|Not even close]]. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#ED9121&quot;&gt;electAbuzz&lt;/span&gt;''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#ED9121&quot;&gt;z&lt;/span&gt;''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#ED9121&quot;&gt;z&lt;/span&gt;''']] 12:31, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Well then search was being a butt yesterday. .___. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 19:06, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Pikachu==<br /> '''Even Ash's Pikachu, the most prominent Pokémon in the anime which spends all its time outside with Ash, has a plain Poké Ball that differs from others only by the small yellow lightning bolt symbol on it, as seen in Pokémon - I Choose You!.'''<br /> <br /> I don't think this is even relevant - and it isn't proven that that Poké Ball is the Poké Ball Ash carries around, since Bulbasaur, Charmander, and Gary's Blastoise left their Poké Balls (which had Japanese writing on them a few times I've seen it, although they may have retconned it because I think I also saw an episode without it) on that podium in Oak's Lab. Also Gary's Blastoise is now held in a regular Poké Ball as seen when he battles Ash at the end of the Master Quest series.<br /> <br /> I hope we're allowed to put up YouTube links in talk pages, but just to show you, here is EP001 where in the shot of the glass case opening, it shows on the empty Poké Balls of Bulbasaur, Charmander and Squirtle that there is writing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMNw7cPDYv8<br /> <br /> Anyway, my point is that we shouldn't take it for face value that Ash uses that lightning-bolt marked Poké Ball, and also to ask if someone who is able can delete that comment in the beginning of the Anime section. Thank you! :D [[User:Lucadan|&lt;font style=&quot;color:#1874CD;&quot;&gt;'''''Lucadan'''''&lt;/font&gt;]] [[User talk:Lucadan|&lt;sup style=&quot;color:#003F87;&quot;&gt;'''''(Talk)'''''&lt;/sup&gt;]] 21:23, 28 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New data from DFC ==<br /> <br /> Apparently a user from the [http://www.dragonflycave.com/pokesite.aspx Cave of Dragonflies] hacked into the assembly data and decoded it (?? I don't know how that works, but whatever) and found that the actual [http://www.dragonflycave.com/capture.aspx catch rates] for some Balls (Dusk, Quick, Nest, Timer) are different to what the fandom has been parroting around. I've updated Dusk and Quick to match, but I've no idea how to fix the Nest and Timer catch rates. [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 02:57, 4 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Updated HG/SS Apricorn ball data has also been added there and I have edited the page to match; however, some sort of consensus must be reached on how to show the Nest and Timer Ball catch rates before they can be corrected, since they clearly can't be done the current way. --[[User:Dragonfree|Dragonfree]] 06:28, 5 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::The timer ball catch rates are correct according to the website, &quot;int(number of turns passed in battle + 10) / 10, maximum 4&quot;, using this you get the same catch rates described in this article when you mess about with number of turns in battle. Bear in mind &quot;int&quot; takes off the stuff after the decimal point from the number. So for example after 27 turns the calculation is int(27+10)/10 = 3.7 - take the point .7 and you're left with 3 - Just as the article says, you can try with other amounts of turns and it doesn't contradict what the article says. <br /> ::The nest ball is a bit of a problem though, &quot;int(40 - Pokémon's level) / 10&quot;, the article says for pokemon under 19 it's x3 - but (40-19)/10 = 2.1 - int(2.1) is 2... The article also says that between and 20 29 it's x2, but int((40-25)/10) =1 This would imply that when the level is 10 and under it's x3, between 11 and 20 x2, and 21 and over x1 [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 01:17, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::No; it can take on decimal values. Note that the division by 10 is not inside the parentheses. (...which means the int() is actually redundant since what's inside the parentheses is always an integer anyway; it was just a leftover from the old formulas and I just removed it.)<br /> <br /> == Love Ball and non/neutral-gender pokemon? ==<br /> <br /> so apparently [[Mew]] learns [[Attract]] at some level and it only works on other non-gender pokemon, would the same kind of thing apply where you have a non-gender pokemon out and use a love ball on another non-gender pokemon? --[[User:Shadofrak|Shadofrak]] 00:47, 14 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Mew can learn attract by TM45. It always fails. Now use the link templates. {{p|Mew}}, {{m|Attract}}. As for Love Balls, 1× catch rate. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:50, 14 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::This trivia suggests otherwise, so one of us (as in Bulbapedia members) is wrong. &quot;Mew is the only genderless Pokémon able to learn Attract and Captivate; however, when used by Mew, they will fail ''unless'' the opposing Pokémon is also genderless.&quot;<br /> <br /> == Variants in Electric Tale/Dengeki Pikachu ==<br /> <br /> Though the article claims that there are no ball variants in this series, two of then have been seen (one original to the series, and one based on the games) in the chapter when Ash/Satoshi fought the Haunter to avenge Sabrina who fell victim to it:<br /> <br /> The first one shown is the giant Poké Ball intended to capture the giant Haunter, first suggested by Ash (along the lines of &quot;It's a giant Pokémon, right? So we need a giant Poké Ball to capture it!&quot;). In the same chapter, he attempted to capture the weakened Haunter using a Hyper (Ultra) Ball, only to lose it when the Haunter self-destructed before the ball hit it. [[User:HechEff|HechEff]] 15:27, 28 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Net Ball x6 on wild Surskit?==<br /> Bringing up the topic of Net Ball, which works 3x on Water and Bug types, and Surskit fits such description... [[User:Dry Bones|&lt;font color=&quot;#191970&quot; face=&quot;Mistral&quot;&gt;DB&lt;/font&gt;]] 21:52, 19 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> :If anything, it would be x9, as it would be x1, then x3, and multiplying that again with 3, is x9. [[User:Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#CD7F32&quot;&gt;Turtwig's&lt;/font&gt;]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF7F00&quot;&gt;A-B-Cs&lt;/font&gt;]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#green&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/font&gt;]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#yellow&quot;&gt;contribs&lt;/font&gt;]]) 22:32, 19 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::No. It only does x3. Like the Dusk Ball triggers its higher catch rate if used in a cave OR at night, the Net Ball triggers if used on a Bug type OR a Water type. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:04, 20 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Green Poke Ball ==<br /> <br /> In the first episode, in the tournament, a trainer sends out an Onix in a green Poke Ball. Should I add that? {{unsigned|LoadOfMentos}}<br /> :I could've sworn that was already in the article... anyways, yeah, go for it. Add it to the &quot;in the anime&quot; section. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#006400&quot;&gt;'''Zesty'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3CB371&quot;&gt;'''Cactus'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 15:40, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::At one point in time I am sure it was already in there, it is my fav one. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 21:55, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Gen II balls in Gen V? ==<br /> Wait a minute... why is the only way to get gen II balls in gen V through hacking? Why not trading? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 21:55, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Because 1. Pokemon can't hold items when transfered from Gen IV to Gen V, and 2. The Gen II balls can't be held, to prevent trading to DPP – [[Water (type)|&lt;font color=&quot;Navy&quot;&gt;Water&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[Hydro Cannon (move)|&lt;font color=&quot;Blue&quot;&gt;User&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; &lt;small&gt;&lt;sub&gt;([[user:WaterUser|page]], [[User talk:WaterUser|talk]])&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/small&gt; 22:34, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Ah I see, k thanks, can't wait til April when I can get it [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 01:54, 30 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Mistake in the Trivia section ==<br /> <br /> In the trivia section it says that in all other languages the names of the poké balls are always related to the term &quot;ball&quot;, but it's not true: in italian, infact, even though the name of the item in the videogames is poké ball, they're also called &quot;sfere poké&quot; (poké spheres). This second name is so widespread that it is used even in the opening theme of the first season's anime. Since I'm not an expert in the site's guidelines, I didn't change the section because I'm not sure whether or not this can be added to the page. Can anybody who is a little bit more experienced than me do this correction, if it's a proper one??? --[[User:Melograno|Melograno]] 14:15, 30 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :You are welcome to remove any information that is factually incorrect :) I've got this one. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 18:47, 30 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::So is it that there are just two interchangeable names, or is there a distinction between the individual item and the group of items? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:05, 2 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Premier Ball ==<br /> <br /> Just asking; is there really any point to the premier ball other than to remember an event of some sort? - [[User:PikaThunder|PikaThunder]] • [[User Talk:PikaThunder|PT's Talk]] - 21:51, 4 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :It looks different than a regular Poké Ball. That's it. Players can use it for whatever they want. For instance, on my HeartGold Version, I tried to catch all event Pokémon (for example, Sudowoodo and Shiny Gyarados) in Premier Balls. So the point of them is whatever you make of it. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&lt;sup&gt;P&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;K&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;M&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;N&lt;/sub&gt;]] 01:26, 5 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Oh, okay. Thanks! - [[User:PikaThunder|PikaThunder]] • [[User Talk:PikaThunder|PT's Talk]] - 10:25, 5 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sport Ball ==<br /> <br /> Click the show button on the Sport Ball section and you'll know what I mean. — [[File:Ani644MS.png]][[User:Zekasaur|&lt;span style=&quot;color:Black&quot;&gt;Ze&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Zekasaur|&lt;span style=&quot;color:Green&quot;&gt;kas&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|&lt;span style=&quot;color:Red&quot;&gt;aur&lt;/span&gt;]][[File:Ani001MS.png]] 06:14, 6 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I see nothing? Could you elaborate? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 11:49, 7 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Yeah, there is nothing wrong. Or is it your computer maybe? - [[User:PikaThunder|PikaThunder]] • [[User Talk:PikaThunder|PT's Talk]] - 22:02, 11 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == BLUE pokeball ==<br /> <br /> I've seen Ethan's Gold and Silver artwork and, surprise, he has a blue pokeball in his belt. Worth noting? --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 21:36, 28 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :You mean it is blue like the green ball or is it like one of the several blue pokeballs like the great ball? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 23:16, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::I looked at the image in question, and it does indeed look like a regular Poké Ball, just with a blue top half instead of red. Great Balls have those red stripes on them. Might be worth adding, but I don't think I'll add it just yet, in case any admins happen to have differing opinions to mine. &lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' &lt;/small&gt; 23:29, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::I only used the great ball as an example? You should add it since the green ball from the first thirty seconds of the anime is added. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 23:57, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::I found another! In the ruins of alph artwork, also from gen ii--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 01:03, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Apricorn Balls ==<br /> <br /> If you send a Pokémon to Black and White from Johto that's been caught in an Apricorn Ball, will the Ball show on the Pokémon's...&quot;stat page&quot; and when u send it out? or will it become a Normal Poké Ball?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 07:48, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I can't remember for the stats section but, it does retain its ball when a Pokémon is sent out for battle. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00AF33;&quot;&gt;'''☆'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:CoolPikachu!|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0098d9;&quot;&gt;'''Cool'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F8D030;&quot;&gt;'''Pikachu!'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 08:30, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::hallelujah--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 08:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Basculin_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=1294223 2010-12-26T16:44:09Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* Name origin */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Unknown Pokémon}}<br /> {{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Doredia | next=Meguroco | prevnum=549| nextnum=551| type=Water }}<br /> {{PokémonInfobox|<br /> jname=バスラオ |<br /> tmname=Basslao |<br /> image=550Basslao{{#ifeq: ({{#time: H}} mod 2)|0|_alternate|}}.png |<br /> size=160px |<br /> caption=Art of {{#ifeq: ({{#time: H}} mod 2)|0|Blue Stripe|Red Stripe}} Basslao from {{2v2|Black|White}} |<br /> pron=&lt;sc&gt;''{{{pron|bah-soo-rao}}}''&lt;/sc&gt; |<br /> species=Violent |<br /> forme=2|<br /> forme1=Red-stripe |<br /> forme2=Blue-stripe |<br /> typen=1 |<br /> type1=Water |<br /> type2= |<br /> abilityn=2 |<br /> ability1=Reckless |<br /> ability2=Adaptability |<br /> abilityspec=Rock Head |<br /> abilityspecnote=Only Basslao obtained through trade in Hodomoe City in Pokémon White |<br /> abilityd=Mold Breaker |<br /> ndex=550 |<br /> udex=056 |<br /> height-ftin=3'03&quot; |<br /> height-m=1.0 |<br /> weight-lbs=39.7 |<br /> weight-kg=18.0 |<br /> egggroupn=1 |<br /> egggroup1=Water 2|<br /> egggroup2= |<br /> eggcycles=40|<br /> expyield=161 |<br /> lv100exp=1,000,000|<br /> gendercode=127|<br /> color=Green|<br /> catchrate=25|<br /> evsp=2|<br /> body=Unknown |<br /> pokefordex= |<br /> generation=5 |<br /> footnotes=}}<br /> <br /> ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''バスラオ''' ''Basslao'') is a {{type2|Water}} Pokémon introduced in [[Generation V]].<br /> <br /> Basslao have two [[Form differences|different appearances]]: one has a red stripe and iris, with a round eye and spiky fins; the other has a blue stripe and iris, with a slit eye and smooth fins. The two different kinds do not get along.<br /> <br /> ==Biology==<br /> ===Physiology===<br /> Basslao has the look of a typical fish, with its bottom part being green and its top part being black, the two parts being separated by a bright red or blue stripe, the rarity of each depending on which game it is encountered in. The red form has a round eye and spiky fins, the blue form has a thin eye and smooth fins. They both have a spiky dorsal fin and a big jaw.<br /> <br /> ====Gender differences====<br /> None.<br /> <br /> ===Special abilities===<br /> <br /> ===Behavior===<br /> <br /> Basslao are violent in nature, and they have a particular dislike for differently colored Basslao. Red and blue Basslao tend to fight each other immediately upon meeting. Occasionally, opposite colors of these Pokémon will get mixed into the other's school.<br /> <br /> ===Habitat===<br /> <br /> ===Diet===<br /> {{main|Pokémon food}}<br /> <br /> ==In the anime==<br /> <br /> ===Major appearances===<br /> <br /> ===Minor appearances===<br /> <br /> ==In the manga==<br /> ===In the Pokémon Master Black &amp; White manga===<br /> In [[PBW02]], [[Cheren]] uses a Basslao against [[Monta]] in a [[triple battle]].<br /> <br /> ==In the TCG==<br /> {{main|Basslao (TCG)}}<br /> <br /> ==Game data==<br /> <br /> ===Pokédex entries===<br /> {{Dex<br /> |type=Water<br /> |gen=5<br /> |blackdex={{tt|あかと　あおの　バスラオは　すぐに　けんかするほど　なかが　わるい。とても　らんぼうな　ポケモン。|Red and blue Basslao are on such bad terms that they will fight immediately upon meeting. A very violent Pokémon.}}<br /> |whitedex={{tt|あかと　あおの　バスラオは　なかが　わるいが　なぜか　いろの　ちがう　こたいが　むれに　まぎれこんでいる。|Red and blue Basslao don't get along, but for some reason some different-colored individuals get mixed up in their schools.}}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Game locations===<br /> {{Availability|<br /> type=Water|<br /> gen=5 |<br /> bwrarity=Unknown|<br /> bwarea=Anywhere with water by {{m|surf}}ing or [[fishing]] |<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ====In side games====<br /> <br /> ===Held items===<br /> {{HeldItems<br /> |type=water<br /> |bw1=DeepSeaTooth|bw1type=Evolution-inducing held item|bw1rar=5|bwforme1=Red Stripe<br /> |bw2=DeepSeaScale|bw2type=Evolution-inducing held item|bw2rar=5|bwforme2=Blue Stripe<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Stats===<br /> ====Base stats====<br /> {{BaseStats|<br /> type=Water|<br /> HP=70|<br /> Attack=92|<br /> Defense=65|<br /> SpAtk=80|<br /> SpDef=55|<br /> Speed=98}}<br /> <br /> ===Type effectiveness===<br /> {{Type effectiveness|<br /> type1=Water|<br /> Normal= 100 |<br /> Fighting= 100 |<br /> Flying= 100 |<br /> Poison= 100 |<br /> Ground= 100 |<br /> Rock= 100 |<br /> Bug= 100 |<br /> Ghost= 100 |<br /> Steel= 50 |<br /> <br /> Fire= 50 |<br /> Water= 50 |<br /> Grass= 200 |<br /> Electric= 200 |<br /> Psychic= 100 |<br /> Ice= 50 |<br /> Dragon= 100 |<br /> Dark= 100 <br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Learnset===<br /> ====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br /> {{learnlist/levelh|Basslao|Water|Water|5|5}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|Start|Tackle|Normal|Physical|50|100|35}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|Start|Water Gun|Water|Special|40|100|25||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|4|Uproar|Normal|Special|90|100|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|7|Headbutt|Normal|Physical|70|100|15}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|10|Bite|Dark|Physical|60|100|25}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|13|Aqua Jet|Water|Physical|40|100|20||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|16|Little by Little|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|20|Take Down|Normal|Physical|90|85|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|24|Crunch|Dark|Physical|80|100|15}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|28|Aqua Tail|Water|Physical|90|90|10||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|32|Waterlog|Water|Status|&amp;mdash;|100|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|36|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|120|100|15}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|41|Scary Face|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|100|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|46|Flail|Normal|Physical|&amp;mdash;|100|15}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|51|Extreme Risk|Fighting|Special|&amp;mdash;|100|5}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|56|Thrash|Normal|Physical|120|100|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/levelf|Basslao|Water|Water|5|5}}<br /> <br /> ====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====<br /> {{learnlist/tmh|Basslao|Water|Water|5|5}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|&amp;mdash;|90|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM07|Hail|Ice|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|&amp;mdash;|100|15}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM12|Taunt|Dark|Status|&amp;mdash;|100|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|5}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|&amp;mdash;|100|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|&amp;mdash;|100|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|15}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|100|15}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Canon|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM55|Boiling Water|Water|Special|80|100|15||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|90|15}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|HM01|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|HM03|Surf|Water|Special|95|100|15||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|HM05|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|HM06|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/tmf|Basslao|Water|Water|5|5}}<br /> <br /> ====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br /> {{learnlist/breedh|Basslao|Water|Water|5|5}}<br /> {{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|118|Goldeen}}{{MSP|119|Seaking}}{{MSP|318|Carvanha}}{{MSP|319|Sharpedo}}{{MSP|370|Luvdisc}}|Agility|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|}}<br /> {{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|170|Chinchou}}{{MSP|171|Lanturn}}{{MSP|223|Remoraid}}{{MSP|224|Octillery}}|BubbleBeam|Water|Special|65|100|20||||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|211|Qwilfish}}{{MSP|320|Wailmer}}{{MSP|321|Wailord}}{{MSP|594|Mamanbou}}|Brine|Water|Special|65|100|10||||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|339|Barboach}}{{MSP|340|Whiscash}}{{MSP|369|Relicanth}}|Muddy Water|Water|Special|95|85|10|||*|'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|118|Goldeen}}{{MSP|119|Seaking}}{{MSP|223|Remoraid}}{{MSP|224|Octillery}}{{MSP|339|Barboach}}{{MSP|340|Whiscash}}&lt;br&gt;{{MSP|369|Relicanth}}|Mud Shot|Ground|Special|55|95|15|||*}}<br /> {{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|318|Carvanha}}{{MSP|319|Sharpedo}}|Rage|Normal|Physical|20|100|20|}}<br /> {{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|211|Qwilfish}}|Revenge|Fighting|Physical|60|100|10||}}<br /> {{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|223|Remoraid}}{{MSP|224|Octillery}}{{MSP|318|Carvanha}}{{MSP|319|Sharpedo}}|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|||*}}<br /> {{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|320|Wailmer}}{{MSP|321|Wailord}}{{MSP|456|Finneon}}{{MSP|457|Lumineon}}|Whirlpool|Water|Special|35|85|15||||'''}}{{learnlist/breedf|Basslao|Water|Water|5|5}}<br /> <br /> ====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====<br /> {{learnlist/tutorh|Basslao|water|water|5|5}}<br /> {{learnlist/tutor5null}}<br /> {{learnlist/tutorf|Basslao|water|water|5|5}}<br /> <br /> ====Special moves====<br /> <br /> ===={{Trading Card Game}}-only moves====<br /> <br /> ===Side game data===<br /> <br /> {| width=&quot;100%&quot; class=&quot;collapsible&quot;<br /> |<br /> ===Evolution===<br /> |- class=&quot;{{#ifeq: ({{#time: H}} mod 2)|0|expandable|collapsible}}&quot;<br /> | <br /> ====Red Stripe====<br /> |-<br /> | <br /> {{evobox<br /> |sprite1=550<br /> |name1=Basslao<br /> |form1=Red Stripe<br /> |type1-1=Water}}<br /> |- class=&quot;{{#ifeq: ({{#time: H}} mod 2)|0|collapsible|expandable}}&quot;<br /> | <br /> ====Blue Stripe====<br /> |-<br /> | <br /> {{evobox<br /> |sprite1=550B<br /> |name1=Basslao<br /> |form1=Blue Stripe<br /> |type1-1=Water}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ===Sprites===<br /> {{Sprite |<br /> type=water |<br /> gen=5 |<br /> gender=2formes |<br /> name=Basslao |<br /> ndex=550 |<br /> forme1=B<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> * While many Pokémon are able to have up to three different abilities legitimately, with two primary abilities and a hidden ability, Basslao is the only Pokémon capable of legitimately having four different abilities, with {{a|Rock Head}} being the ability had by an NPC-traded Basslao in [[Hodomoe City]] in {{game|White}}.<br /> <br /> ===Origin===<br /> Basslao were most likely inspired by {{wp|Siamese fighting fish|betta fish}}. Both sexes of betta display horizontal bars of color either when frightened or setting up a pecking order. They are very violent and can even fight to the death. Its appearance may have been based on a {{wp|bass (fish)|bass}} or {{wp|piranha}}, one of which has historically been viewed as violent.<br /> <br /> ====Name origin====<br /> Its name is probably a combination of バス ''basu'' meaning bass, and 丈夫 ''masurao'' meaning warrior, referring to its {{a|Reckless|bold, violent nature}}. Alternatively, it could refer to バカラオ ''bakarao'', ''{{wp|bacalhau}}''.<br /> <br /> &lt;!--==In other languages==<br /> *[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: <br /> *[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: <br /> *[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]:<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> &lt;references /&gt;<br /> --&gt;<br /> {{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Doredia | next=Meguroco | prevnum=549| nextnum=551| type=Water }}<br /> {{Project Pokédex notice}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Pokémon with different forms]]<br /> <br /> &lt;!--[[es:Basslao]]<br /> [[pl:Basslao]]<br /> [[pt:Basslao (pokémon)]]<br /> [[ja:バスラオ]]--&gt;<br /> <br /> [[de:Basurao]]<br /> [[fr:Basurao]]<br /> [[ja:バスラオ]]</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Present_(move)&diff=1291138 2010-12-22T17:02:17Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* By {{pkmn|breeding}} */</p> <hr /> <div>{{MoveInfobox|<br /> n=217 |<br /> name=Present |<br /> jname=プレゼント |<br /> jtrans=Present |<br /> desc=The user attacks by giving the foe a bomb in the form of a gift. It restores HP sometimes, however. |<br /> gameimage=Present.png |<br /> type=Normal |<br /> damagecategory=Physical |<br /> basepp=15 |<br /> maxpp=24 |<br /> power=Varies |<br /> accuracy=90 |<br /> bdesc=??? |<br /> gen=II |<br /> category=Cute |<br /> appeal=3 |<br /> jam=0 |<br /> cdesc=Can be repeatedly used without boring the Judge. |<br /> appealsc=0 |<br /> scdesc=Raises the score if the Voltage is low. |<br /> pokefordex=present |<br /> touches=no |<br /> protect=yes |<br /> magiccoat=no |<br /> snatch=no |<br /> brightpowder=yes |<br /> kingsrock=no |<br /> flag7=no |<br /> flag8=no |<br /> sound=no |<br /> target=any |<br /> footnotes= }}<br /> '''Present''' (Japanese: '''プレゼント''' ''Present'') is a damage-dealing {{type2|Normal}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation II]]. It is the [[signature move]] of {{p|Delibird}}.<br /> <br /> ==Effect== <br /> ===Generation II===<br /> Present has two different effects. Present can either deal damage against the target or heal the target.<br /> <br /> If Present deals damage, then the base power of Present is chosen at random between 40, 80 and 120. If Present chooses to heal the target, it will heal the foe by 80HP.<br /> <br /> {| {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #{{normal color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{normal color}};&quot;<br /> |-<br /> |<br /> {| border=1 width=&quot;100%&quot; align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{normal color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;&quot;<br /> |-style=&quot;background: #{{normal color light}};&quot;<br /> !Effect<br /> !Probability<br /> |-<br /> | Damage with 40 Base Power <br /> | 40%<br /> |-<br /> | Damage with 80 Base Power <br /> | 30%<br /> |-<br /> | Damage with 120 Base Power <br /> | 10%<br /> |-<br /> | Heal the target by 80HP <br /> | 20%<br /> |}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> In {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}, the Level, Attack, and Defense variables of the [[damage calculation|damage formula]] are replaced. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gameboy/game/367023.html &quot;Strategy Guide&quot; Retrieved May 4, 2010]&lt;/ref&gt; The Attack variable is replaced with 10. The Level will be based on the index number of the defending Pokémon's type, while the Defense will be based on the index number of the attacking Pokémon's type. (If a Pokémon is dual-typed, its secondary type will be used.) Also, Present only inflicts a quarter of the normal damage against Rock-type and Steel-type Pokémon.<br /> <br /> {| {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #{{normal color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{normal color}};&quot;<br /> |-<br /> |<br /> {| border=1 width=&quot;100%&quot; align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{normal color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;&quot;<br /> |-style=&quot;background: #{{normal color light}};&quot;<br /> !Index Number<br /> !Type<br /> |-<br /> |{{tt|0|If this is used for Defense, it is increased to 1}}<br /> |{{t|Normal}}<br /> |-<br /> |1<br /> |{{t|Fighting}}<br /> |-<br /> |2<br /> |{{t|Flying}}<br /> |-<br /> |3<br /> |{{t|Poison}}<br /> |-<br /> |4<br /> |{{t|Ground}}<br /> |-<br /> |5<br /> |{{t|Rock}}<br /> |-<br /> |7<br /> |{{t|Bug}}<br /> |-<br /> |8<br /> |{{t|Ghost}}<br /> |-<br /> |9<br /> |{{t|Steel}}<br /> |-<br /> |20<br /> |{{t|Fire}}<br /> |-<br /> |21<br /> |{{t|Water}}<br /> |-<br /> |22<br /> |{{t|Grass}}<br /> |-<br /> |23<br /> |{{t|Electric}}<br /> |-<br /> |24<br /> |{{t|Psychic}}<br /> |-<br /> |25<br /> |{{t|Ice}}<br /> |-<br /> |26<br /> |{{t|Dragon}}<br /> |-<br /> |27<br /> |{{t|Dark}}<br /> |}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> In {{game|Crystal}} and [[Pokémon Stadium 2]], Present uses the standard damage formula.<br /> <br /> ===Generation III and beyond===<br /> <br /> Present works as it does in Pokémon Crystal and Pokémon Stadium 2. <br /> <br /> ==Learnset==<br /> ===[[Generation II]]===<br /> ====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br /> {{Learnlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|225|Delibird|2|Ice|Flying|--}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br /> {{Breedlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|025|Pikachu|1|Electric||{{p|Delibird}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|035|Clefairy|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|039|Jigglypuff|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|113|Chansey|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|175|Togepi|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|183|Marill|1|Water||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Delibird}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|209|Snubbull|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, &lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Delibird}}|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|241|Miltank|1|Normal||{{p|Delibird}}|'''}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}<br /> <br /> ===[[Generation III]]===<br /> ====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br /> {{Learnlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|225|Delibird|2|Ice|Flying|--}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br /> {{Breedlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|113|Chansey|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|035|Cleffa|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|039|Igglybuff|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|172|Pichu|1|Electric||{{p|Delibird}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|175|Togepi|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|183|Marill|1|Water||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Delibird}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|209|Snubbull|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, &lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Delibird}}|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|241|Miltank|1|Normal||{{p|Delibird}}|'''}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}<br /> <br /> ===[[Generation IV]]===<br /> ====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br /> {{Learnlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|225|Delibird|2|Ice|Flying|--}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br /> {{Breedlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|173|Cleffa|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|174|Igglybuff|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|113|Chansey|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|172|Pichu|1|Electric||{{p|Delibird}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|175|Togepi|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|183|Marill|1|Water||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Delibird}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|209|Snubbull|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Delibird}}|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|241|Miltank|1|Normal||{{p|Delibird}}|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|440|Happiny|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}<br /> <br /> ====By {{pkmn2|event}}====<br /> {{Learnlist/TM|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|025|Pikachu|1|Electric|}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ===[[Generation V]]===<br /> ====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br /> {{Learnlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|225|Delibird|2|Ice|Flying|--}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br /> {{Breedlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|173|Cleffa|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|174|Igglybuff|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|113|Chansey|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|172|Pichu|1|Electric||{{p|Delibird}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|175|Togepi|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|183|Marill|1|Water||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Delibird}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|209|Snubbull|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Delibird}}|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|241|Miltank|1|Normal||{{p|Delibird}}|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|440|Happiny|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}<br /> <br /> ==In the anime==<br /> {{bad image||they're small, JPG, and the exploding and healing pictures are far too small and grainy.}}<br /> {{moveanime|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=A luminous ball is thrown at the opponent. It then explodes and either damages or heals.|image1=Pikachu Present 2.jpg|image1p=Delibird|image2=Delibird Present Explode.JPG|image2p=Exploding|image3=Present anime.jpg|image3p=Delibird|image4=Delibird Present Restore.JPG|image4p=Being Healed}}<br /> {{movep|type=normal|ms=225|pkmn=Delibird|method=Delibird pulls out a shimmering rainbow colored orb from the bag it carries, and Delibird throws it at the opponent. The orb then explodes and either damages or heals the opponent.}}<br /> {{movebtm|type=normal|user=Delibird (Team Rocket)|user1=Team Rocket's Delibird|startcode=EP231|startname=Dues and Don'ts|notes=Debut}}<br /> <br /> ==In the manga==<br /> <br /> ===Pokémon Adventures===<br /> {{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user gives the opponent an exploding present.|image1=Delibird Present Adventures.png|image1p=Delibird}}<br /> {{movep|type=normal|ms=225|pkmn=Delibird|method=Delibird holds out its wings and a gift box appears in between them. It then hands the opponent the gift box and it explodes.}}<br /> {{movebtmManga|type=normal|user=Masked Man|user1=The Masked Man's Delibird|startcode=PS104|startname=The Ariados up There|notes=Debut}}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> * Oddly, when a Pokémon uses Present in the anime, it gives the foe a glowing ball that deals damage. However, in the games, the move has been classed as a Physical move. This is probably because most 'explosive' moves are considered physical.<br /> * Present is one of {{m|Pain Split|three}} {{m|Healing Wave|moves}} that can naturally heal the opponent.<br /> <br /> ==In other languages==<br /> * French: '''Cadeau'''<br /> * German: '''Geschenk'''<br /> * Greek: '''Δώρο'''<br /> * Italian: '''Regalino'''<br /> * Korean: '''프레젠트''' ''Present''<br /> * Spanish: '''Presente'''<br /> <br /> ==External Links==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Project MoveDex notice}}<br /> <br /> [[pt:Present]]<br /> <br /> [[de:Geschenk]]<br /> [[fr:Cadeau]]<br /> [[ja:プレゼント]]</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Present_(move)&diff=1291136 2010-12-22T17:01:08Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* By {{pkmn|breeding}} */ I found a Togekiss in gen ii</p> <hr /> <div>{{MoveInfobox|<br /> n=217 |<br /> name=Present |<br /> jname=プレゼント |<br /> jtrans=Present |<br /> desc=The user attacks by giving the foe a bomb in the form of a gift. It restores HP sometimes, however. |<br /> gameimage=Present.png |<br /> type=Normal |<br /> damagecategory=Physical |<br /> basepp=15 |<br /> maxpp=24 |<br /> power=Varies |<br /> accuracy=90 |<br /> bdesc=??? |<br /> gen=II |<br /> category=Cute |<br /> appeal=3 |<br /> jam=0 |<br /> cdesc=Can be repeatedly used without boring the Judge. |<br /> appealsc=0 |<br /> scdesc=Raises the score if the Voltage is low. |<br /> pokefordex=present |<br /> touches=no |<br /> protect=yes |<br /> magiccoat=no |<br /> snatch=no |<br /> brightpowder=yes |<br /> kingsrock=no |<br /> flag7=no |<br /> flag8=no |<br /> sound=no |<br /> target=any |<br /> footnotes= }}<br /> '''Present''' (Japanese: '''プレゼント''' ''Present'') is a damage-dealing {{type2|Normal}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation II]]. It is the [[signature move]] of {{p|Delibird}}.<br /> <br /> ==Effect== <br /> ===Generation II===<br /> Present has two different effects. Present can either deal damage against the target or heal the target.<br /> <br /> If Present deals damage, then the base power of Present is chosen at random between 40, 80 and 120. If Present chooses to heal the target, it will heal the foe by 80HP.<br /> <br /> {| {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #{{normal color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{normal color}};&quot;<br /> |-<br /> |<br /> {| border=1 width=&quot;100%&quot; align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{normal color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;&quot;<br /> |-style=&quot;background: #{{normal color light}};&quot;<br /> !Effect<br /> !Probability<br /> |-<br /> | Damage with 40 Base Power <br /> | 40%<br /> |-<br /> | Damage with 80 Base Power <br /> | 30%<br /> |-<br /> | Damage with 120 Base Power <br /> | 10%<br /> |-<br /> | Heal the target by 80HP <br /> | 20%<br /> |}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> In {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}, the Level, Attack, and Defense variables of the [[damage calculation|damage formula]] are replaced. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gameboy/game/367023.html &quot;Strategy Guide&quot; Retrieved May 4, 2010]&lt;/ref&gt; The Attack variable is replaced with 10. The Level will be based on the index number of the defending Pokémon's type, while the Defense will be based on the index number of the attacking Pokémon's type. (If a Pokémon is dual-typed, its secondary type will be used.) Also, Present only inflicts a quarter of the normal damage against Rock-type and Steel-type Pokémon.<br /> <br /> {| {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #{{normal color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{normal color}};&quot;<br /> |-<br /> |<br /> {| border=1 width=&quot;100%&quot; align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{normal color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;&quot;<br /> |-style=&quot;background: #{{normal color light}};&quot;<br /> !Index Number<br /> !Type<br /> |-<br /> |{{tt|0|If this is used for Defense, it is increased to 1}}<br /> |{{t|Normal}}<br /> |-<br /> |1<br /> |{{t|Fighting}}<br /> |-<br /> |2<br /> |{{t|Flying}}<br /> |-<br /> |3<br /> |{{t|Poison}}<br /> |-<br /> |4<br /> |{{t|Ground}}<br /> |-<br /> |5<br /> |{{t|Rock}}<br /> |-<br /> |7<br /> |{{t|Bug}}<br /> |-<br /> |8<br /> |{{t|Ghost}}<br /> |-<br /> |9<br /> |{{t|Steel}}<br /> |-<br /> |20<br /> |{{t|Fire}}<br /> |-<br /> |21<br /> |{{t|Water}}<br /> |-<br /> |22<br /> |{{t|Grass}}<br /> |-<br /> |23<br /> |{{t|Electric}}<br /> |-<br /> |24<br /> |{{t|Psychic}}<br /> |-<br /> |25<br /> |{{t|Ice}}<br /> |-<br /> |26<br /> |{{t|Dragon}}<br /> |-<br /> |27<br /> |{{t|Dark}}<br /> |}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> In {{game|Crystal}} and [[Pokémon Stadium 2]], Present uses the standard damage formula.<br /> <br /> ===Generation III and beyond===<br /> <br /> Present works as it does in Pokémon Crystal and Pokémon Stadium 2. <br /> <br /> ==Learnset==<br /> ===[[Generation II]]===<br /> ====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br /> {{Learnlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|225|Delibird|2|Ice|Flying|--}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br /> {{Breedlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|025|Pikachu|1|Electric||{{p|Delibird}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|035|Clefairy|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|039|Jigglypuff|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|113|Chansey|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|175|Togepi|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|183|Marill|1|Water||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Delibird}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|209|Snubbull|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, &lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Delibird}}|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|241|Miltank|1|Normal||{{p|Delibird}}|'''}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}<br /> <br /> ===[[Generation III]]===<br /> ====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br /> {{Learnlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|225|Delibird|2|Ice|Flying|--}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br /> {{Breedlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|113|Chansey|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|035|Cleffa|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|039|Igglybuff|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|172|Pichu|1|Electric||{{p|Delibird}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|175|Togepi|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|183|Marill|1|Water||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Delibird}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|209|Snubbull|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Delibird}}|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|241|Miltank|1|Normal||{{p|Delibird}}|'''}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}<br /> <br /> ===[[Generation IV]]===<br /> ====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br /> {{Learnlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|225|Delibird|2|Ice|Flying|--}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br /> {{Breedlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|173|Cleffa|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|174|Igglybuff|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|113|Chansey|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|172|Pichu|1|Electric||{{p|Delibird}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|175|Togepi|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|183|Marill|1|Water||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Delibird}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|209|Snubbull|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Delibird}}|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|241|Miltank|1|Normal||{{p|Delibird}}|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|440|Happiny|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}<br /> <br /> ====By {{pkmn2|event}}====<br /> {{Learnlist/TM|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|025|Pikachu|1|Electric|}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ===[[Generation V]]===<br /> ====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br /> {{Learnlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|225|Delibird|2|Ice|Flying|--}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br /> {{Breedlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|173|Cleffa|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|174|Igglybuff|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|113|Chansey|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|172|Pichu|1|Electric||{{p|Delibird}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|175|Togepi|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Moveentry|183|Marill|1|Water||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Delibird}}}}<br /> {{Moveentry|209|Snubbull|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Delibird}}|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|241|Miltank|1|Normal||{{p|Delibird}}|'''}}<br /> {{Moveentry|440|Happiny|1|Normal||{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Jigglypuff}}, {{p|Wigglytuff}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}}&lt;br&gt;{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|'''|*}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}<br /> <br /> ==In the anime==<br /> {{bad image||they're small, JPG, and the exploding and healing pictures are far too small and grainy.}}<br /> {{moveanime|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=A luminous ball is thrown at the opponent. It then explodes and either damages or heals.|image1=Pikachu Present 2.jpg|image1p=Delibird|image2=Delibird Present Explode.JPG|image2p=Exploding|image3=Present anime.jpg|image3p=Delibird|image4=Delibird Present Restore.JPG|image4p=Being Healed}}<br /> {{movep|type=normal|ms=225|pkmn=Delibird|method=Delibird pulls out a shimmering rainbow colored orb from the bag it carries, and Delibird throws it at the opponent. The orb then explodes and either damages or heals the opponent.}}<br /> {{movebtm|type=normal|user=Delibird (Team Rocket)|user1=Team Rocket's Delibird|startcode=EP231|startname=Dues and Don'ts|notes=Debut}}<br /> <br /> ==In the manga==<br /> <br /> ===Pokémon Adventures===<br /> {{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user gives the opponent an exploding present.|image1=Delibird Present Adventures.png|image1p=Delibird}}<br /> {{movep|type=normal|ms=225|pkmn=Delibird|method=Delibird holds out its wings and a gift box appears in between them. It then hands the opponent the gift box and it explodes.}}<br /> {{movebtmManga|type=normal|user=Masked Man|user1=The Masked Man's Delibird|startcode=PS104|startname=The Ariados up There|notes=Debut}}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> * Oddly, when a Pokémon uses Present in the anime, it gives the foe a glowing ball that deals damage. However, in the games, the move has been classed as a Physical move. This is probably because most 'explosive' moves are considered physical.<br /> * Present is one of {{m|Pain Split|three}} {{m|Healing Wave|moves}} that can naturally heal the opponent.<br /> <br /> ==In other languages==<br /> * French: '''Cadeau'''<br /> * German: '''Geschenk'''<br /> * Greek: '''Δώρο'''<br /> * Italian: '''Regalino'''<br /> * Korean: '''프레젠트''' ''Present''<br /> * Spanish: '''Presente'''<br /> <br /> ==External Links==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Project MoveDex notice}}<br /> <br /> [[pt:Present]]<br /> <br /> [[de:Geschenk]]<br /> [[fr:Cadeau]]<br /> [[ja:プレゼント]]</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page/Archive_11&diff=1285836 2010-12-15T22:44:31Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* What to do with Dream World artwork. */</p> <hr /> <div>This is the {{bp|talk page}} for the Bulbapedia's front page. If you have a general comment about the wiki, please consider placing it in [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 our forum].'''<br /> <br /> == Previous discussions ==<br /> <br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10|Archive 10]]<br /> <br /> == Pokémon cries? ==<br /> Should we add Pokémon cries to the Pokémon articles?--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :It's been tried before, but it caused too many problems. It would still probably cause too much problems now.--[[User:Pokelova|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''Poké''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Pokelova|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;lova!&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10#Pokémon Cries|This has been discussed to death already.]] &lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;—&lt;small&gt;♥&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;b&gt;[[User:Jello|&lt;span style=&quot;color:orange;&quot;&gt;Jello&lt;/span&gt;]][[User Talk:Jello|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3FA9D0;&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;talk&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/b&gt; 20:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::We're going to try to get them put in as soon as possible. They've been sitting in a directory on the server for... jeez, at least a year. Last time we tried to put them in, the server exploded. Archaic's been wary of doing it since then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::Just out of curiosity, what file format was used for the cries? That may have been the problem.--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Over at de:, we have mp3 with the following syntax: &lt;nowiki&gt;{{#mp3:http://www.greenchu.de/nakigoe/025.mp3}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;. I cannot figure out where that parser functions comes from, though.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] [[User talk:Afrael|&lt;sup&gt;talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:59, 20 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::::I think having the files like [http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/#music Floatzel.net] have their music files could work well. We might even eventually be able to put route/town/cave music on the pages!--[[User:Pokelova|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''Poké''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Pokelova|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;lova!&lt;/span&gt;]] 04:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Oh would I ''love'' to do that. Too bad Nintendo would '''destroy''' us for doing so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:01, 4 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Move Trivia ==<br /> <br /> Should there be a trivia section for moves? For instance, only one Pokémon can learn [[Steel Wing]] by leveling up.--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 16:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :There are for some moves, but not all of them have any notable trivia to add, so there is no sub heading. If you think of '''notable''' trivia, then add the sub-heading and put it in. Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|&lt;font color=&quot;Blue&quot;&gt;Sam&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Samjohn95|&lt;font color=&quot;Purple&quot;&gt;john&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|&lt;font color=&quot;Teal&quot;&gt;95&lt;/font&gt;]] 21:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Glitch Pokémon ==<br /> <br /> Hi there. I remember when I was around nine, I used to play Pokémon Gold &amp; Crystal, and I remember there was this cloning trick that could clone pokémon and the items that they held. Anyways, I began to notice if I did the right trick at a certain time, (or whatever it was, it has been a while) I managed to get a special type of Pokémon, the trainer. The trainer of course, had no moves and therefore could only struggle, but you could use TMs and everything. I remember having fun with that, but I can't find any info on this.&lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Bublador}} ([[User talk:Bublador|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bublador|contribs]]) ''&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> Try this page, all of the glitches are on [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Glitches#All_Generations]] and please sign your comment when you use these talk pages. thank you --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 19:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> I'm just thinking if on every Pokémon's page that we have their Pronunciation somewhere? like this:<br /> <br /> Say: Sin-da-qwil<br /> <br /> What do you think?--&lt;small&gt;[[User:lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;KayKay&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;|&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:purple&quot;&gt;Chat to me!&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 07:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :It's a good idea, but I believe we've had problems with adding pronunciations in the past because of people not agreeing on the &quot;correct&quot; pronunciation (also, sometimes there are conflicting pronunciations from different official sources) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#006400&quot;&gt;'''Zesty'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3CB371&quot;&gt;'''Cactus'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Oh oh then. I just though because some Pokémon I can't pronounce their names--&lt;small&gt;[[User:lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;KayKay&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;|&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:purple&quot;&gt;Chat to me!&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 07:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::If you have a look at the source of, say, Bulbasaur's page, you'll see this:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;{{PokémonInfobox|<br /> name=Bulbasaur |<br /> pron=&lt;sc&gt;''bul''-buh-sore&lt;/sc&gt; &lt;ref&gt;Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''. <br /> Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5&lt;/ref&gt; |<br /> jname=フシギダネ |<br /> tmname=Fushigidane |<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> the &quot;pron=&quot; parameter is not coded into the infobox, so it does appear. But it's there on every Pokemon's page. [[User:Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD733;&quot;&gt;'''たか'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520;&quot;&gt;'''はり'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B69E00;&quot;&gt;'''い'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Yes, it's coded in but because of the disagreements on pronunciation and no clear official source for many of them, it was decided to hide them all. If Nintendo or anyone ever releases an official pronunciation guide then we'll be able to put them back up. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 07:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::Is whatever the pronunciation is in the English dub of the anime (and similarly the pronunciation in the Japanese dub for those not yet released over here) not enough to justify it? With the exception of the odd time where they've actually changed the pronunciation during it e.g. Regice... '''[[User:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; face=&quot;Verdana&quot;&gt;TheChrisD&lt;/font&gt;]]''' &lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Rants&lt;/font&gt;]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Edits&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 13:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Artwork?! ==<br /> <br /> I hate to be the silly one who starts the &quot;What's going on?!!&quot; discussion, but seriously, why have all the pictures of the Generation I Pokémon been changed to the old Red and Green artwork? Is it for an aniversary or something? [[User:Taromon777|&lt;span style=&quot;color:turquoise; font-family:Arial&quot;&gt;'''T a r o m o n'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 10:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Yes. Anniversary of RB was yesterday, so Gen I Pokémon got Gen I art. But due to the server cache it took some a while to switch over, and I believe they should all be starting to switch back now, but again, that'll be whenever the server cache gets updated. &lt;sc&gt;[[User:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2D4B98;&quot;&gt;Werdnae&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sc&gt; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009000;&quot;&gt;(talk)&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 11:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Actually, maybe it could be put on a switch, like with Gastrodon's forms, so it could switch between old and new artwork periodically. How's that sound? &lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' &lt;/small&gt; 13:49, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::That's exactly what it did. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 22:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Oh, so it's still in effect? As in, like, permanently? Because that was what I was suggesting. &lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' &lt;/small&gt; 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::Yes, next year and on certain other days the site will have easter egg effects. Yaaaay for surprises. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 20:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I won't panic when the Gym Leader pictures are replaced by fan art then... [[User:Taromon777|&lt;span style=&quot;color:turquoise; font-family:Arial&quot;&gt;'''T a r o m o n'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Is it the same currently with the Generation II Pokémon and their G/S artwork? [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:16, 21 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::Yes. &lt;span class=&quot;sc&quot;&gt;[[User:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2D4B98;&quot;&gt;Werdnae&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009000;&quot;&gt;(talk)&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 19:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == just a though... ==<br /> <br /> i realise this is probably in the wrong place, but, as unlocking the generation IV nationaldex and requesting a trade on the GTS require only seeing a particular species of pokémon, would it make sense to include a section explaining where to see them. (and i am aware that the GTS has only around a week left). I know that people (granted they are few) have had problems viewing unown and riolu in DP for example.--[[User:Mr-connor|Mr-connor]] 13:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :There is a section explaining where to see, and catch, Pokémon. It's right below the Pokédex Entries section.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 13:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> '''TYPHLOSION LV:50<br /> KINDRA LV:50<br /> ALAKAZAM LV:50<br /> LUGIA LV:45<br /> TYRANITAR LV:55<br /> DRAGONITE LV:57'''<br /> <br /> this is my current team for pokemon soulsilver...i think it has room for improvement.<br /> [[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)brandon strayhorn[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :This isn't the place to put this. Post it on the forums.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] &lt;small&gt;([[User talk:Cold|talk]])&lt;/small&gt; 21:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Bulbagarden Archives ==<br /> <br /> I have a problem that I keep sending the confirmation e-mail like every week but it doesn't show up. I'm saying it here because I haven't confirmed my e-mail on Archives. Someone please help me!!!!!!--&lt;small&gt;[[User:lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;KayKay&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;|&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:purple&quot;&gt;Chat to me!&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 10:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Have you checked it isn't getting caught by the spam filter on your email? Maybe check that the email address is right too? &lt;sc&gt;[[User:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2D4B98;&quot;&gt;Werdnae&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sc&gt; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009000;&quot;&gt;(talk)&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 10:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Thanks Wardnae, I accidentally wrote the wrong email.--&lt;small&gt;[[User:lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;KayKay&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;|&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:purple&quot;&gt;Chat to me!&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 23:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> == Sizes on Pokémon pages.. ==<br /> <br /> Something that's been bugging me for a while. I've been manually going around and resizing the main art boxes at the top of each Pokémon page so they all match each other and look uniform. However, many times box sizes will still be off by a few pixels. Would there be anyway to code something that keeps them all the same size? [http://i54.tinypic.com/28rcc53.png] is an example of what Ii'm talking about. Basically, the box that surrounds the art.&lt;span style=&quot;color:#90EE90&quot;&gt;~★&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;'''[[User:Cubic Question|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#40E0D0&quot;&gt;''cubic''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;[[User talk:Cubic Question|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00FFFF&quot;&gt;''QUESTION''&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 13:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Even if you make the width a certain size, the length will be different according to the size of the art. To get it uniform, you would have to make every file have some whitespace so it would be the same size. That won't happen though. The boxes don't really need to be uniform in size. &lt;sub style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''[[User:Blake|Blake]]'''&lt;/sub&gt; &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]]&lt;/sup&gt; 20:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Litsen... ==<br /> <br /> First of all, I have a idea of a section in the pokemon's main page. Footprint. It'll be good. also, the Pronunciation topic above^^. We can take Right pronunciation from [http://pokemon.wikia.com/ Pokemon Wiki]. I know its cheating, but, Ill help us. --[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :The footprint is already in each Pokémon's infobox. And, we already discussed that the pronunciation caused conflict, and the Pokémon Wiki is far from a reliable source. So we probably won't be adding the pronunciation to each's Pokémon's page. [[User:Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD733;&quot;&gt;'''たか'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520;&quot;&gt;'''はり'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B69E00;&quot;&gt;'''い'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::By the way I think you were trying to say Listen not Litsen?--&lt;small&gt;[[User:lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;KayKay&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;|&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:purple&quot;&gt;Chat to me!&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 11:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::Well, Pronunciation is what admins can do when the wiki lets locked. also, wouldn't they need help adding 150 and more pokemon?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Pronunciation is conflicting. It isn't just hard work. For example, Bonsly was pronounced with an ē once, then with an ī in another time. One was in the movie, the other in the anime, I've just forgotten which. [[User:Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#CD7F32&quot;&gt;Turtwig's&lt;/font&gt;]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF7F00&quot;&gt;A-B-Cs&lt;/font&gt;]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#green&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/font&gt;]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#yellow&quot;&gt;contribs&lt;/font&gt;]]) 11:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::Oh Really? We All Know That Charmander is pronounced ''Chaar-man-der''. Easy Enough?? Just search on google for pokemon pronunciation.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Yeah, no Google searching, thanks. The official sources (Official Handbooks, Anime, and Video Games) don't always agree on pronunciations of Pokémon names. Now, if the official sources all agree at one point, then we will add them. But until then, they're not going on the species pages. - [[User:Kogoro|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DA70D6;&quot;&gt;'''&lt;sc&gt;Kogoro&lt;/sc&gt;'''&lt;/span&gt;]] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFB6C1;&quot;&gt;'''&lt;sc&gt;Talk to me&lt;/sc&gt;'''&lt;/span&gt;]] - 12:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> Okay Then. Moving to the next topic. What About Something at the Top of The Pokemon pics To Change the Picture into other generation art or to a Different form?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Most form changing Pokémon have their forms rotated based on the current time (see {{p|Arceus}}, then refresh the page). As for different generations, the infoboxes are set to display it on certain days—for example, on the anniversary of Red and Blue the Pokémon pages displayed their Red and Blue artwork (for those that have it). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Doesn't look like the servers are being nice ==<br /> <br /> No, I'm not geting 504s (or, if I am, FireFox is hiding them); I'm getting something even worse: pages not loading at all. A couple of days ago, I was going to come here to get a small amount of information, and it took ages to do so (so long in fact that I just got it O_O). I think the servers are being overstressed - despite the fact that I was getting good ping times off of 10 pings to the site's router (if there is one), I couldn't load any pages - not even robots.txt! That is just a simple text document, and it wouldn't even load! I would start the lockdown soon, as the closer to release we get, the more activity we are likely to get.<br /> <br /> I consider myself lucky I could even get on right now. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 06:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The fifth generation Pokemon are invading Bulbapedia and interfering with the system! I haven't actually noticed any problems yet though, which is strange. [[User:Taromon777|&lt;span style=&quot;color:turquoise; font-family:Arial&quot;&gt;'''T a r o m o n'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:38, 16 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Finally! ==<br /> <br /> as i mentioned Form changing above, We can use A method for pokemon with 2 different forms like giratina and shellos<br /> <br /> Method: All you guys saw Avatar, Everyone Saw. Now See The [http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com Avatar Wiki]'s Jake Sully Article. There is a button below the pic to change the Picture into Human/Avatar. We can use that Method.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 16:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :That's a really good idea actually, I think it would be better than the Pokemon's form just changing periodically. Perhaps now Bulbapedia is being upgraded for the fifth generation, it would be a convenient time for recoding the articles. [[User:Taromon777|&lt;span style=&quot;color:turquoise; font-family:Arial&quot;&gt;'''T a r o m o n'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::I dunno. Shaymin is also two formes, and changes with time. Shellos and Giratina, by the way, are not random. It's based on the hours. And unfortunately, that just changes the infobox picture; there are '''''several''''' things that change for forme changers. Unless your Ground-type moves miss against Altered Forme Giratina. What's that? They don't? But you can only use Earthquake five times? '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::Wikimon has a more extensive one that allows you to toggle the whole box, for example in the [http://wikimon.net/Agumon Agumon article], click the tabs. It even integrates the table of contents into it. Pretty clever. - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 04:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::see, only arceus has several things that needed to be changed. what about others?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::What about Mebukijika and Genesect (yes, Genesect has other formes (I think five or six?)) [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I also support the toggle idea. By the way, it has been mentioned in Arbok's Pokédex entries that it has at least six different patterns, of which two have appeared in official game art. Maybe it would be worthwhile to also toggle these two the same way? --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::I say we just stick with actual forme changes, and not include design differences between canons. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 14:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Metric tags in Pokédex entries ==<br /> All pokedex entries use the imperial units of measurement from the US translation. I suggest adding tags with the metric counterparts for two reasons:<br /> <br /> 1 - the original Japanese entries use metric units, so it could be seen as &quot;more canon&quot;.<br /> <br /> 2 - there are international users of Bulbapedia (me included) that are not used to imperial units.<br /> <br /> For example, the final sentence in Magneton's entry in Yellow could be: ''It raises the temperature by {{tt|3.6F degrees|2°C}} within {{tt|3,300 feet|1 km}}.''<br /> <br /> If the staff agrees, I'm willing to go through all Pokedex entries and add the metric values. I know enough Japanese to easily get the official values from the pokedex entries listed on the Japanese wiki, assuming those are correct.<br /> <br /> --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Metric system seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to include, it's merely a big job to go through ''everything'' and add the metric equivalent. Perhaps starting small, with say the Pokémon infobox only for now, and work our way up (every infobox should list the Pokémon's height and weight, so it's the most prominent use of the imperial system). Pokédex entries are also pretty simple, but I'd also say they're the less important area to work on (no complaints if you want to fix them all yourself, however). --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt; '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;''.cнаt'''''^'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 11:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Each Pokemon already have both their imperial and metric height and weight listed in their infobox, except for Generation 5, because their imperial values are not yet officially known. So pokedex entries are the most important area left to work on, as far as I can see. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 13:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Unless someone else has a big complaint about it, I don't see why you can't go ahead and update those, in that case. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt; '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;''.cнаt'''''^'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 14:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I have done 101 out of 493 for now. I may have missed a few in scanning all those entries. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 23:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Question? ==<br /> <br /> The option to write in the discussion for the Pokemon Black and White Versions isn't there. Are we not aloud to write there? --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 21:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah, but only if you're autoconfirmed, meaning you've been registered for a certain amount of time and have made a certain number of edits.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] &lt;small&gt;([[User talk:Cold|talk]])&lt;/small&gt; 21:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::OK thanks --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 22:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::What is the amount of time and important edits? [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 3D Artwork ==<br /> <br /> This is something that's been on my mind for a while now, but I couldn't bring it up due to the lockdown. Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to possibly include 3D images of Pokémon and Pokémon moves, like what's done for anime? It could be done in a seperate section or sub-section of the articles. Oh, and I don't mean updating every time a new 3D game comes out; I mean adding images for each time a move or Pokémon has appeared in a 3D game, like images of Pidgeot from its appearances in Pokémon Stadium through Pokémon Battle Revolution. I don't know if this has been brought up before, but is this notion a good idea?--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 00:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Although i don't know much, but taking 3D Pics will be hard and i don't think its a very good idea.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Well, I don't quite know how it's done, but you don't take 3D pics by using a camera or something. The quality of the 3D images here prove that.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 15:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Lylat Wiki ==<br /> <br /> [http://starfoxwiki.org/Lylat_Wiki Lylat Wiki] is now a part of NIWA, Oct 8th and 15th two others will be added, so might wanna add that to your NIWA bar ;] [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 17:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Main page design ==<br /> <br /> Does no one else think Tsutarja is missing?<br /> We have Bulbasaur, Treecko, Chikorita and Turtwig pics on the main page, but no Tsutarja (or victini if you want the first pokémon in the dex) I can feel it's absence when I look at the page. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 19:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :main page uses animated minisprites. we dont have Gen V animated minisprites. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;MAG&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#696969;&quot;&gt;NE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;DETH&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 19:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Yet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::I can ''Make'' Them Animate. but it wont we official, and Archives are currently blocked.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::I see. That's a little worrying because they're not animated on my screen. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 17:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::What browser are you running? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#444444&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C3C3C3&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::on chrome and IE they don't work, only firefox. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 12:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I've heard that they also work on Opera. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#444444&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C3C3C3&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 06:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Actually,there is a Tsutarja animated sprite Bulbagarden Archives, but there's no space for it. However, a Victini sprite has also been uploaded. [[User:Jlin8002|Jlin8002]] 00:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Jlin8002<br /> <br /> == Shiny Gen V Sprites ==<br /> <br /> I would like to know where we are going to put the shiny sprites for the fifth generation Pokémon. I have the sprites (official). [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :We have them, however we have yet to upload them. I guess I could do them today. --[[User:PsychicRider|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#78C850;&quot;&gt;'''Psy'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:PsychicRider|&lt;sub style=&quot;color:#F85888;&quot;&gt;'''ライダー'''&lt;/sub&gt;]]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C4E673;&quot;&gt;'''☮'''&lt;/span&gt;]]'' 11:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Translations ==<br /> <br /> This is a big job, and would probably be a bad idea, but could we translate Bulbapedia into other languages? I know that we already have basic translations of Pokémon and Moves, but what about the rest of it?----[[User:Chalkwriter|&lt;span style=&quot;color:green&quot;&gt;Chalk&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Chalkwriter|&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;writer&lt;/span&gt;]] 18:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :May I direct your attention [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis|here]] ''[[User:Maverick Nate|&lt;sup style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''Maverick'''&lt;/sup&gt;]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|&lt;sub style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''Nate'''&lt;/sub&gt;]]'' 18:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Clearer distinction between &quot;natural&quot; and Dream World abilities. ==<br /> <br /> I think the distinction between pokémon that only have certain abilities through the Pokémon Dream World and those that don't can be made clearer. For example, on pages of separate abilities there is just one table with normal and PDW pokémon all mixed up, while it would be easier to make separate tables for both. I think this would help both users that own Pokémon Black or White and those that don't. Besides that we could also make a category for &quot;Abilities exclusive to Pokémon Dream World&quot;, like {{a|Harvest}}. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 00:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :On the separate pages, they are specfically listed in a separate column that says &quot;Dream World ability&quot;. That seems separate enough. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|&lt;sup style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''Maverick'''&lt;/sup&gt;]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|&lt;sub style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''Nate'''&lt;/sub&gt;]]'' 00:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Yes, but I think it would be easier if for example you are looking for a pokémon that has a certain ability, that you don't have to go through a list of which half of the pokémon are Dream World pokémon. Even for Dream World users like me pokémon in wild and in Dream World are two completely separate things. But yeah, it's not that necessary. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Grammar error ==<br /> <br /> Being the Grammar Nazi I am, I have spotted an error I can't fix. I accidentally got logged out while editing a userpage, and I noticed there is a lack of space between sentences on the message that explains that new users cannot edit userpages. This is really bothering me, so could anyone with the power to edit the MediaWiki namespace fix it? [[User:CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Red&quot;&gt;Cu&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Tan&quot;&gt;bo&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Green color light&quot;&gt;ne&lt;/font&gt;]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|&lt;font color=&quot;Black&quot;&gt;King&lt;/font&gt;]] 02:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Done, I think. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 02:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Update on Message to the Editor ==<br /> <br /> [[Template:Main Page/Message from the Editor|'''This''']] should be updated, no? I think people would like to know it's been unlocked [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 02:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> : Very true, its more that a month old [[User:Ruberduck0123|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520 ;&quot;&gt;'''Ruber'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Ruberduck0123|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#999999 ;&quot;&gt;'''duck'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Ruberduck0123|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#4FD9FF ;&quot;&gt;'''0123'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:00, 23 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::It doesn't matter if it's five months old, he edits it when they have an announcement to make, he doesn't have to update it once a month people!! --[[User:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma;background:black&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;red&quot;&gt;'''Land'''&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma;background:black&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;yellow&quot;&gt;'''fish7'''&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 13:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Bulbanews ==<br /> <br /> I have a question : Can only staff members report news to bulbanews or can normal users also report --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 15:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Bulbanews is a different wiki altogether. Though they're both part of Bulbagarden, both Bulbapedia and Bulbanews have their own front pages. The information you're looking for is on Bulbanews's front page and if you have any other questions about it, it'd make sense to ask on that talk page rather than this one. [[n:Front page|here's a link, for convenience]] [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 20:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :What Kanjo said is correct, but to answer your question, anyone is allowed to report news to Bulbanews. After submission, an admin or columnist needs to move it out of the draft namespace and into the mainspace. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#444444&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C3C3C3&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 00:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Zoroark's Name ==<br /> <br /> I think the Ark in its name could be cause it can transform into lots of pokemon like an ark of pokemon and the reason i posted it here cause i cant post it on Zoroark's article . --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 16:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :First of all, if you can't post in an article, inquire in the article's talk page (i.e. [[Talk:Zoroark (Pokémon)]]), not Talk: Main Page. Secondly, that's a real stretch: that's not an actual definition of the word ark, it's just a vague metaphor. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&lt;sup&gt;P&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;K&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;M&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;N&lt;/sub&gt;]] 21:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Before you ask ==<br /> <br /> Read the news. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Is it for the Japanese anime writer? If so, I suppose Chimecho is more appropriate than Lugia, considering how the little windchime links to places like Mt. Pyre and Sendoff Spring. It can be in greyscale if desired. Besides, what is more favourable aesthetically is that one may include Chingling too, instead of Lugia all over the place. [[User:Rxhar|Rxhar]] 09:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::It's Lugia because the man is credited with helping to create it. It was on the news post. [[User:Tamah|Tamah]] 23:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Well, it was more than a week by now, someone could remember me who edits the main page? --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 16:14, 5 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == What'd I do wrong here? ==<br /> <br /> [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Starck]]<br /> <br /> ... What happened? [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Just create a page with &lt;nowiki&gt;{{subst:welcome}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#BF0B17&quot;&gt;ＤＥＮＮＯＵ&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#1250A6&quot;&gt;ＺＥＮＳＨＩ&lt;/font&gt;]] 13:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==EV Listings==<br /> <br /> I was just thinking of a very useful idea. On the pages for each route, cave, etc, where the wild Pokémon are listen, I was thinking we should add another column after each Pokémon and say &quot;1 Speed,&quot; or &quot;2 Attack,&quot; or something. That, paired with encounter and level rates would help a great deal in EV training for all different levels. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}<br /> :Well, I admit, this would be useful to some people, but this is an encyclopedia, not a walkthrough. Honestly, I don't see why you can't go to the Pokémon's page and check. I'm not for it, but I'm not exactly saying NO. --[[User:Si6x12|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B01406;&quot;&gt;'''Si6'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User Talk:Si6x12|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#083DA7;&quot;&gt;'''x12'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 03:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::I agree completely, however, it would be a nice little touch on the page for convenience. I'm not one of them, but I know some people have incredibly slow computers, and I can easily imagine the frustration of those who have slow connections along with a desire to EV train. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 14:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::I'm thinking no, but I do see a use in it. Perhaps {{bp|Project Walkthroughs}} would be a good place to ask. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 14:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Putting every possible bit of information is dumb. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:04, 18 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::But that's not what we'd be doing now, is it? We wouldn't be putting their number, or Dex color, or Egg group, or anything like that, just the EV(s) they give. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}<br /> ::::::The number should already be there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:50, 18 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::::No, I'm talking about on the route pages. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}<br /> ::::::::Don't make me go on a rant about users and clicking links. If you plan to EV train, then just look up the Pokémon that give EVs in whatever. We're an encyclopedia, not an EV training guide. Do some of your own research, dude. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:15, 4 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Redirection Pages ==<br /> <br /> Do we really need those redirection pages with one Pokémon used by a character, the TCG link, and the Pokémon link? We already have the Pokémon used by a character and it's TCG links on the page. I understand the ones for like Pikachu, but ones like Mr. Mime and Gengar don't need to be there, do they? [[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 03:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :This is already being discussed on the forums, so please be patient. '''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Verdana;&quot;&gt;~ [[User:Sol|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0080ff;&quot;&gt;sol&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Sol|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#4090ff;&quot;&gt;ar&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#a8d3ff;&quot;&gt;is&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 03:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::And how soon do we delete {{template|p}}, which I'm sure you all want. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == What to do with Dream World artwork. ==<br /> <br /> Currently we use some to replace the Sugimori artwork, but what to do when said artwork is avaiable?. Sincerely i thing it would be a waste to just leave the DW artwork floating alone. Do you agree? We should do something with it.<br /> --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:06, 15 November 2010 (UTC) Sorry, forgot signature<br /> :It would be a waste. Also, how come we don't put up the old artwork on the Pokémon's page? It seems a waste not to include it on the page (especially when some trivia refers to it). [[User:Tesh|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A8A878; font-family:Georgia;&quot;&gt;Teshigigas&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Tesh|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A8A878; font-family:Georgia;&quot;&gt;[Talk]&lt;/span&gt;]] 18:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Old artwork '''''is''''' on the pages, they just change from time to time [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:36, 15 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::not really, Ataro. we are going to find a use for the images, but as of late weve had other things to focus on. rest assured, it will be showcased somewhere and in some way. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;MAG&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#696969;&quot;&gt;NE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;DETH&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 23:01, 15 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::/me keeps reading the &quot;In the Games&quot; sections of pages (hint). [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 00:47, 17 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::Over at [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Main_Page Zelda wiki]they use a code of sorts that makes a picture change every time you refresh the page. It seemed to use a template called &lt;nowiki&gt;{{RandomLinkImage}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; for [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Link this page]. I think I've seen simeler on userpages. It varied page to page. --[[User:Pika3323|&lt;span style=&quot;color:orange;&quot;&gt;Pika3323&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Maybe each Pokemon's page can feature a gallery of their art from all games. Just a random thought. &lt;sub style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''[[User:Blake|Blake]]'''&lt;/sub&gt; &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]]&lt;/sup&gt; 21:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Eventually. There's always an issue with doing that though. And that is how many damned exceptions there are. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:13, 4 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::Um, doesn't each Pokémon page link to a gallery anyway? --[[User:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma;background:black&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;red&quot;&gt;'''Land'''&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma;background:black&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;yellow&quot;&gt;'''fish7'''&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 21:00, 7 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Em, we could show the artwork in the pages for &quot;special&quot; cases, like ivysaur. Ivysaur has purple colored eyes in the anime and Dream World--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 22:44, 15 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Trading pre-Unova ==<br /> <br /> Some pokemon such as [[Bulbasaur]] say that you have to &quot;trade&quot; to get the Pokémon when you actually have to get it through Pokéshift, Dream World, or both? When are we going to change this? —[[User:Zekasaur|&lt;span style=&quot;color:Black&quot;&gt;♫Ze&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Zekasaur|&lt;span style=&quot;color:Green&quot;&gt;kas&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|&lt;span style=&quot;color:Red&quot;&gt;aur♫&lt;/span&gt;]] 03:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> :It will likely be changed as soon as someone enters that specific information into the tables. If I recall correctly, the template defaults to saying &quot;trade&quot; if no data is entered. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 04:58, 7 December 2010 (UTC)</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Lostlorn_Forest&diff=1284691 2010-12-14T15:22:57Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* Pokémon */</p> <hr /> <div>{{incomplete}}<br /> {{Infobox location<br /> |location_name=Lost Forest<br /> |japanese_name={{tt|迷いの森|mayoi no mori}}<br /> |translated_name=Lost Forest<br /> |type=forest<br /> |location=North of {{rt|16|Unova}}<br /> |region=Unova<br /> |generation={{Gen|V}}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> (Japanese: '''{{tt|迷いの森|まよいのもり}}''' ''Lost Forest'') is a small forest-like location in the middle of Unova. It is connected to {{rt|16|Unova}} in the south. It is home to {{p|Zoroark}}.<br /> <br /> ==Geography==<br /> <br /> ==Items==<br /> {{Itlisth|forest}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|Big Mushroom|Inside a tree stump in the lower part.|BW}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|Rare Candy|In the higher part.|BW}}<br /> {{Itlistbod|Protein|Near the dark patches in the higher part ''(hidden)''|BW}}<br /> {{Itlistfoot|forest}}<br /> <br /> ==Pokémon==<br /> {{catch/header|forest|yes}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|520|Hatooboo|yes|yes|yes|Grass|21-22|all=15%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|541|Kurumayu|yes|yes|yes|Grass|19-22|all=35%|type1=Bug|type2=Grass}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|543|Fushide|yes|yes|yes|Grass|20-21|all=15%|type1=Bug|type2=Poison}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|546|Monmen|yes|no|yes|Grass|19-22|all=35%|type1=Grass}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|548|Churine|no|yes|yes|Grass|19-22|all=35%|type1=Grass}}<br /> {{catch/div|forest|Dark Patches}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|520|Hatooboo|yes|yes|yes|Grass|24-25|all=15%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|541|Kurumayu|yes|yes|yes|Grass|22-25|all=35%|type1=Bug|type2=Grass}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|543|Fushide|yes|yes|yes|Grass|23-24|all=15%|type1=Bug|type2=Poison}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|546|Monmen|yes|no|yes|Grass|22-25|all=35%|type1=Grass}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|548|Churine|no|yes|yes|Grass|22-25|all=35%|type1=Grass}}<br /> {{catch/div|forest|Shaking spots}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|511|Yanappu|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|20|all=10%|type1=grass}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|513|Baoppu|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|20|all=10%|type1=fire}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|515|Hiyappu|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|20|all=10%|type1=water}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|521{{#ifexpr: ({{#time: H}} mod 2) = 0||F}}|Kenhorou|yes|yes|yes|Grass|22|all=5%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|531|Tabunne|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|19-21|all=45%|type1=Normal}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|542|Hahakomori|yes|yes|yes|Grass|22|all=5%|type1=Bug|type2=Grass}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|547|Erufuun|yes|no|N/A|Grass|22|all=5%|type1=grass}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|549|Doredia|no|yes|N/A|Grass|22|all=5%|type1=grass}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|587|Emonga|yes|yes|yes|Grass|20|all=10%|type1=Electric|type2=Flying}}<br /> {{catch/div|water|Surfing}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|550|Basslao|yes|no|no|Surf|5-20|all=100%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|550B|Basslao|no|yes|no|Surf|5-20|all=100%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{catch/div|water|Surfing spots}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|550|Basslao|no|yes|no|Surf|5-20|all=100%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|550B|Basslao|yes|no|no|Surf|5-20|all=100%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{catch/div|water|Fishing}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|118|Goldeen|yes|yes|no|Fish Super|35-55|all=70%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|550|Basslao|yes|no|no|Fish Super|35-55|all=30%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|550B|Basslao|no|yes|no|Fish Super|35-55|all=30%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{catch/div|water|Fishing spots}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|118|Goldeen|yes|yes|no|Fish Super|35-60|all=60%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|119|Seaking|yes|yes|no|Fish Super|45-70|all=10%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|550|Basslao|no|yes|no|Fish Super|35-60|all=30%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|550B|Basslao|yes|no|no|Fish Super|35-60|all=30%|type1=Water}}<br /> {{catch/div|forest|Special}}<br /> {{catch/entry5|571|Zoroark|yes|yes|yes|Special|25|all=—|type1=Dark}}<br /> {{catch/footer|forest}}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> * Lost Forest shares its Japanese name with an {{pkmn|anime}}-exclusive location in [[Sinnoh]], [[Bewilder Forest]].<br /> <br /> &lt;!--==In other languages==<br /> * '''Spanish:''' <br /> * '''Italian:''' <br /> * '''German:''' <br /> * '''French:''' <br /> * '''Korean:''' --&gt;<br /> <br /> {{Unova}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> {{Project Locations notice}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Unova locations]]<br /> [[Category:Black and White locations]]<br /> [[Category:Forests]]<br /> <br /> [[de:Mayoi no Mori]]</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Skuntank_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=1283930 2010-12-13T13:27:21Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* Trivia */ it says 2 times that it can learn flamethrower</p> <hr /> <div>{{PokémonPrevNextHead | species=Skuntank | type=poison | type2=dark | prevnum=434 | nextnum=436 | prev=Stunky | next=Bronzor }}<br /> {{PokémonInfobox|<br /> name=Skuntank |<br /> jname=スカタンク |<br /> tmname=Skutank |<br /> art=DP |<br /> image=435Skuntank.png |<br /> ndex=435 |<br /> sdex=085 |<br /> abrow=145 |<br /> obrow=054 |<br /> opbrow=150 |<br /> typen=2 |<br /> type1=Poison |<br /> type2=Dark |<br /> species=Skunk |<br /> height-ftin=3'03&quot; |<br /> height-m=1.0 |<br /> weight-lbs=83.8 |<br /> weight-kg=38.0 |<br /> abilityn=2 |<br /> ability1=Stench |<br /> ability2=Aftermath |<br /> abilityd=Keen Eye |<br /> egggroupn=1 |<br /> egggroup1=Ground |<br /> egggroup2= |<br /> eggcycles=20 |<br /> evhp=2|<br /> expyield=209 |<br /> lv100exp=1,000,000 |<br /> gendercode=127 |<br /> color=Purple |<br /> catchrate=60 |<br /> body=08 |<br /> pokefordex=skuntank |<br /> generation=4 |<br /> footnotes=}}<br /> '''Skuntank''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''スカタンク''' ''Skutank'') is a dual-type {{2t|Poison|Dark}} Pokémon. <br /> <br /> It [[Evolution|evolve]]s from {{p|Stunky}} starting at [[level]] 34.<br /> <br /> ==Biology==<br /> ===Physiology===<br /> Skuntank are medium sized mammalian Pokémon that are dark purple with a white stripe running down their backs. It's appearance is slightly cat-like with fangs and smaller cheeks than that of Stunky's. It's cheeks now have a tan coloration. The whiskers present on its pre-evolution have since vanished or have been replaced by a furry purple tufts on the sides of Skuntank’s face. Skuntank’s legs are tan, and the tan coloration of their underside now form a spiky pattern. Skuntank’s most notable and obvious feature, however, is that their tails are much longer and are often laid out on their backs and over their faces.<br /> ====Gender differences====<br /> None.<br /> <br /> ====Special abilities====<br /> Skuntank are known for their noxious fluid which not only smells dreadfully disgusting, but is possibly flammable and explosive, allowing it to learn Fire Type attacks like {{m|Flamethrower}} and {{m|Fire Blast}} as well as explosive attacks like {{m|Explosion}}. It can spray this fluid over 160 feet, and the longer it allows the liquid to ferment within its body, the more powerful the smell. Unlike its pre-evolution and real-life Skunks, Skuntank spray this from their tail tip instead of the base.<br /> <br /> ===Behavior===<br /> It is likely that like Stunky, it uses its foul smelling spray to defend itself.<br /> <br /> ===Habitat===<br /> <br /> Skuntank prefer to nest in large, prickly bushes in heavily wooded areas.<br /> <br /> ===Diet===<br /> {{main|Pokémon food}}<br /> <br /> ==In the anime==<br /> [[File:Skuntank anime.png|thumb|240px|Skuntank in the anime]]<br /> [[Jupiter]] has a Skuntank which she first used in ''[[DP097|Double Team Turnover!]]''.<br /> <br /> A Skuntank also appeared in ''[[DP126|Classroom Training!]]'' under the ownership of [[Jeremiah]] who studies in the [[Snowpoint Trainers' School]]. It appeared again in ''[[DP127|Sliding Into Seventh!]]''.<br /> <br /> {{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}<br /> {{Animedexbody|DP126|Skuntank|Ash's Pokédex|Skuntank, the Skunk Pokémon and the evolved form of {{p|Stunky}}. It sprays a horrible smelling liquid from the tip of its tail.}}<br /> {{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond &amp; Pearl''|Sinnoh}}<br /> <br /> ==In the manga==<br /> A Skuntank is seen in [[PS348]] spreading its malodorous smell right around the [[Sinnoh Route 206|Cycling Road]], where its stench was so great that {{adv|Platinum}} fainted upon coming into contact with it, while still on her bike and heading straight to her death going downhill, until [[Platinum's Empoleon|her Prinplup]] was able to freeze the air around her bike to save her at the last minute (at {{adv|Pearl}}'s behest, of course). Inadvertently, this allowed her to learn to pedal her bike, though she still didn't get how to hit the brakes. This smell still persisted so badly the next day that the two, with {{adv|Diamond}}, were forced to bathe where they next stayed. <br /> <br /> Humorously, the woman at the counter where they hosted the baths literally got a crooked nose from the odor it produced.<br /> <br /> ==In the TCG==<br /> {{main|Skuntank (TCG)}}<br /> <br /> ==Game data==<br /> ===NPC appearances=== <br /> * [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness]] and [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky]]: Skuntank is the leader of [[Team Skull]], a band of thieves. When he first appears, he uses his stench to knock out the player. With {{p|Koffing}}, he can perform a noxious gas combo attack, and uses that to knock out the player's team with a horrible stench several times over the course of the game, but this fails against Wigglytuff later on. Toward the end of the game when he steals the Relic Fragment, his team's lives are saved by the player's team and he gives the relic back.<br /> <br /> ===Pokédex entries===<br /> {{Dex<br /> |type=poison<br /> |type2=dark<br /> |gen=4<br /> |diamonddex=It sprays a vile-smelling fluid from the tip of its tail to attack. Its range is over 160 feet.<br /> |pearldex=It sprays a stinky fluid from its tail. The fluid smells worse the longer it is allowed to fester.<br /> |platinumdex=It attacks by spraying a horribly smelly fluid from the tip of its tail. Attacks from above confound it. <br /> |hgssdex=It attacks by spraying a repugnant fluid from its tail, but the stench dulls after a few squirts.<br /> |bwdex={{tt|しっぽの　さきから　ひどい　においの　えきたいを　とばして　こうげきするが　うえから　ねらわれると　とまどう。|It attacks by spraying a horribly smelly fluid from the tip of its tail. Attacks from above confound it.}}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Game locations===<br /> {{Availability|<br /> type=poison |<br /> type2=dark |<br /> gen=4 |<br /> dprarity=Uncommon |<br /> dparea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|221|Sinnoh}}, {{rtn|222|Sinnoh}} and {{rtn|225|Sinnoh}} |<br /> gen4ex=diamond|<br /> hgssex=pal|<br /> hgssarea=[[Trade]] |<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ====In side games====<br /> {{SidegameAvail<br /> |type=Poison<br /> |type2=Dark<br /> |md2=[[Mystifying Forest]] (B1-B13)&lt;br&gt;[[Mystery Jungle]] (B1-B29)&lt;br&gt;[[Shimmer Hill]] (1F-17F)<br /> |ranger2=[[Oil Field Hideout]]<br /> |scramble=[[Eternal Tower]]<br /> |ranger3=[[Rasp Cavern]]&lt;br&gt;[[Ice Temple]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Stats===<br /> ====Base stats====<br /> {{BaseStats|<br /> type=poison |<br /> type2=dark |<br /> HP= 103 |<br /> Attack= 93 |<br /> Defense=67 |<br /> SpAtk= 71 |<br /> SpDef= 61 |<br /> Speed= 85 }}<br /> <br /> ====Pokéathlon stats====<br /> {{Pokéthlon<br /> |type=Poison<br /> |type2=Dark<br /> |Speed=2<br /> |SpeedMax=3<br /> |Power=4<br /> |PowerMax=5<br /> |Technique=2<br /> |TechniqueMax=4<br /> |Stamina=3<br /> |StaminaMax=4<br /> |Jump=2<br /> |JumpMax=2<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Type effectiveness===<br /> {{Type effectiveness|<br /> type1=Poison|<br /> type2=Dark|<br /> <br /> Normal= 100 |<br /> Fighting=100 |<br /> Flying= 100 |<br /> Poison= 50 |<br /> Ground= 200 |<br /> Rock= 100 |<br /> Bug= 100 |<br /> Ghost= 50 |<br /> Steel= 100 |<br /> <br /> Fire= 100 |<br /> Water= 100 |<br /> Grass= 50 |<br /> Electric=100 |<br /> Psychic= 0 |<br /> Ice= 100 |<br /> Dragon= 100 |<br /> Dark= 50 |<br /> <br /> notes=yes|<br /> dark=yes|<br /> newpsychic=2}}<br /> <br /> ===Learnset===<br /> ====By [[level|leveling up]]====<br /> {{learnlist/levelh|Skuntank|Poison|Dark|5|4}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|Start|Scratch|Normal|Physical|40|100|35}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|Start|Focus Energy|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|30}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|Start|Poison 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Play|Dark|Physical|95|100|15||||'''}}{{learnlist/breedf|Skuntank|Poison|Dark|5|4}}<br /> <br /> ====By [[move tutor|tutoring]]====<br /> {{learnlist/tutorh|Skuntank|Poison|Dark|5|4}}<br /> {{learnlist/tutor5null}}<br /> {{learnlist/tutorf|Skuntank|Poison|Dark|5|4}}<br /> <br /> ===Side game data===<br /> {{Sidegame|<br /> type=poison |<br /> type2=dark |<br /> ndex=435 |<br /> Dungeon2=yes |<br /> body2=1 |<br /> rate2=0.5 |<br /> iq=G |<br /> Ranger2=yes |<br /> group2=Poison |<br /> assist2=Poison |<br /> field2=Stink |<br /> field2power=- |<br /> browser2=It lets loose {{m|Poison Gas|poison gas}} while it walks. It attacks by spitting up a poisonous fluid. |<br /> Ranger3=yes |<br /> group3=Poison |<br /> assist3=Poison |<br /> field3=Tackle |<br /> field3power=2 |<br /> browser3=It attacks by scattering poison gas around itself that makes Pokémon Tired. |<br /> Pad=Skutank came to the Haunted Zone to explore the Haunted House but got lost and was late. His abilities serve him well at Dusknoir's Speed Slam. |<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Evolution===<br /> {{evobox<br /> |family=Normal<br /> |sprite1=434<br /> |name1=Stunky<br /> |type1-1=Poison<br /> |type2-1=Dark<br /> |evotype1=Level<br /> |level1=34<br /> |sprite2=435<br /> |name2=Skuntank<br /> |type1-2=Poison<br /> |type2-2=Dark}}<br /> <br /> ===Sprites===<br /> {{Sprite|<br /> type=poison|<br /> type2=dark|<br /> gen=4|<br /> gender=none|<br /> ndex=435|<br /> name=Skuntank|<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> *Skuntank weighs 83.8 lb, which is the same as the {{ga|Lucas|male player}} in {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}. This trait is shared with {{p|Fearow}}, {{p|Togekiss}}, {{p|Yanma}} and {{p|Sudowoodo}}.<br /> *In the Galactic Hideout in [[Eterna City]], [[Jupiter]] has an [[underleveled]] Skuntank. It is level 20 ({{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}})/23 ({{v2|Platinum}}), but Stunky evolves at level 34.<br /> *Skuntank's color palette was changed slightly in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}. This also happened to {{p|Stunky}}, {{p|Registeel}}, {{p|Torterra}}, {{p|Chimchar}}, {{p|Glameow}}, {{p|Purugly}}, and {{p|Chatot}}.<br /> *All of Skuntank's [[Pokédex]] entries mention its tendency to spray smelly fluid from its tail.<br /> *As of [[Generation V]], Skuntank is the only non {{type2|Fire}} Pokémon to learn {{m|Flamethrower}} via level-up.<br /> <br /> ===Origin===<br /> Skuntank is based on a {{wp|hog-nosed skunk}}. <br /> <br /> ====Name origin====<br /> Skuntank's name appears to be a combination of tank, skunk, and stank, the past tense of stink. Skutank is the same, just with one less letter due to character limits.<br /> <br /> ==In other languages==<br /> *[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Moufflair - From ''moufette'' (striped skunk) and ''flair'' (smelling).<br /> *[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Skunktank <br /> *[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 스컹탱크 ''Seukeongtaengkeu''<br /> *[[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese (Taiwan)]]: 坦克臭鼬 ''Tǎn Kè Chòu Yòu'' - Combination of 坦克 (military tank) and 臭鼬 (skunk).<br /> <br /> ==Related articles==<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> <br /> {{PokémonPrevNextFoot | type=poison | type2=dark | prevnum=434 | nextnum=436 | prev=Stunky | next=Bronzor }}<br /> {{Project Pokédex notice}}<br /> <br /> [[de:Skuntank]]<br /> [[es:Skuntank]]<br /> [[fr:Moufflair]]<br /> [[ja:スカタンク]]<br /> [[pl:Skuntank]]<br /> [[pt:Skuntank (pokémon)]]</div>

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<p>EzekielMaple: /* =By tutoring */</p> <hr /> <div>{{PokémonPrevNextHead | species=Bidoof | type=normal | prevnum=398 | nextnum=400 | prev=Staraptor | next=Bibarel }}<br /> {{PokémonInfobox|<br /> name=Bidoof |<br /> jname=ビッパ |<br /> tmname=Bippa |<br /> art=DP |<br /> pron=&lt;sc&gt;bee-doof&lt;/sc&gt; |<br /> ndex=399 |<br /> sdex=013 |<br /> abrow=004 |<br /> obrow=137 |<br /> typen=1 |<br /> type1=Normal |<br /> type2= |<br /> species=Plump Mouse |<br /> height-ftin=1'08&quot; |<br /> height-m=0.5 |<br /> weight-lbs=44.1 |<br /> weight-kg=20.0 |<br /> abilityn=2 |<br /> ability1=Simple |<br /> ability2=Unaware |<br /> abilityd=Sudden Impulse |<br /> egggroupn=2 |<br /> egggroup1=Water 1 |<br /> egggroup2=Ground |<br /> eggcycles=15 |<br /> evhp=1 |<br /> expyield=58 |<br /> lv100exp=1,000,000 |<br /> gendercode=127|<br /> color=Brown |<br /> catchrate=255 |<br /> body=08 |<br /> pokefordex=bidoof |<br /> generation=4 |<br /> footnotes= }}<br /> '''Bidoof''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ビッパ''' ''Bippa'') is a {{type2|Normal}} Pokémon introduced in [[Generation IV]].<br /> <br /> It [[Evolution|evolve]]s into {{p|Bibarel}} starting at [[level]] 15.<br /> <br /> ==Biology==<br /> ===Physiology=== <br /> Bidoof are small brown rodent-like creatures with large front teeth which they use for gnawing on wood. They have round tufts of fur on their tails and a ring of them on their faces. Bidoof has a red nose, a black snout and a paler-colored underside. They also have black, slightly webbed paws. In the anime, it is shown that they can run on two legs like humans.<br /> <br /> ====Gender differences====<br /> The tail of a male Bidoof consists of five tufts of fur, while the tail of a female only has three.<br /> <br /> ====Special abilities====<br /> <br /> ===Behavior===<br /> Bidoof need to constantly gnaw on hard substances to keep their teeth ground down, since they grow constantly. Without something to gnaw on, they become violent because of the pain and inconvenience the unwieldy growing teeth cause.<br /> <br /> ===Habitat===<br /> Bidoof build their nests along the side of bodies of water.<br /> <br /> ===Diet===<br /> {{main|Pokémon food}}<br /> <br /> Bidoof feed mainly on seeds, roots, and plants. Occasionally they eat tree bark. They also eat [[Berry|berries]].<br /> <br /> ==In the anime==<br /> [[Image:Bidoof anime.jpg|right|thumb|A group of Bidoof]]<br /> Bidoof made its anime debut in brief cameos in ''[[DP001|Following A Maiden's Voyage!]]'', appearing in the wild.<br /> <br /> Many Bidoof then appeared in ''[[DP023|Faced with Steelix Determination]]''.<br /> <br /> A Bidoof Appeared in the anime Special ''Explorers Of Time And Darkness'' as a member of Wigglytuff's guild.<br /> <br /> Bidoof, with its {{p|Bibarel|evolution}}, made a brief appearance in ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''.<br /> <br /> Bidoof was also seen under [[Reggie]]'s care in ''[[DP066|Lost Leader Strategy!]]''. It made another appearance in ''[[DP111|Saving the World From Ruins!]]''.<br /> <br /> A Bidoof appeared in ''[[DP088|Camping It Up!]]''.<br /> <br /> A Bidoof also appeared in ''[[DP038|One Big Happiny Family!]]'' in [[Jessie]]'s fantasy.<br /> <br /> ===Pokédex entries===<br /> {{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}<br /> {{Animedexbody|DP023|Bidoof|Ash's Pokédex|Bidoof, the Plump Mouse Pokémon. It gnaws on trees and rocks with its strong front teeth and lives in nests near the water.}}<br /> {{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond &amp; Pearl''|Sinnoh}}<br /> <br /> ==In the manga==<br /> {{adv|Platinum}} was attacked by a group of Bidoof in her own house.<br /> <br /> ==In the TCG==<br /> {{main|Bidoof (TCG)}}<br /> <br /> ==Game data==<br /> ===NPC appearances===<br /> * [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness]]: Bidoof is a member of [[Wigglytuff's Guild]], the second newest recruit next to the player's team. He updates his &quot;Yup Yup&quot; journal over the course of the game.<br /> * [[Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia]]: 9 Bidoof are used by [[Team Dim Sun]]'s [[Wheeler]].<br /> {{spoiler}}<br /> * [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky]]: Bidoof stars in his own special episode, being the playable character. When Bidoof left home and first joined [[Wigglytuff's Guild]], he often messed things up and wasn't really liked by anyone. One day, whilst visiting the [[Kecleon Shop]], he was confronted by a {{p|Snover}} who gave it an old map before hurrying off. A {{p|Gligar}} and {{p|Bagon}} then appeared to be chasing Snover. The map showed a legendary dungeon known as the [[Wish Cave]] where {{p|Jirachi}} [[Status_ailment#Sleep|sleeps]], and after learning about it from [[Chatot (Explorers of Time, Darkness, and Sky)|Chatot]], Bidoof decided to go there so he may make a wish to make himself a stronger explorer. Snover finds Bidoof at the Guild, and together they head off to the Wish Cave. However, upon reaching the end, Gligar and Bagon appeared, and Snover turned against Bidoof. It turns out that it was a trick pulled off by the three, who are a thief gang called Actors. They saw Bidoof's wealth when he visited the Kecleon shop, so they plotted the whole thing to lure Bidoof to the Wish Cave to rob him. Bidoof fights the three, but fails. Before the team robs him, the entire Guild shows up to help him. Bidoof is touched that he is a cherished member of the Guild after all. [[Wigglytuff (Explorers of Time, Darkness, and Sky)|Wigglytuff]] helps him blast open a hidden cave where Bidoof can find Jirachi. He finds Jirachi sleeping. It talks in its sleep, warning Bidoof that it attacks in its sleep. Bidoof must defeats it to help it awaken. Bidoof makes his wish and, though given a lot of choices, Bidoof wishes for new juniors to join the Guild so he could help them. The wish is fulfilled when the player and his/her partner joins the Guild, thus ending the story.<br /> <br /> ===Pokédex entries===<br /> {{Dex<br /> |type=normal<br /> |gen=4<br /> |diamonddex=With nerves of steel, nothing can perturb it. It is more agile and active than it appears.<br /> |pearldex=It constantly gnaws on logs and rocks to whittle down its front teeth. It nests alongside water.<br /> |platinumdex=A comparison revealed that Bidoof's front teeth grow at the same rate as {{p|Rattata}}'s.<br /> |hgssdex=It lives in groups by the water. It chews up boulders and trees around its nest with its incisors.<br /> |bwdex={{tt|ビッパと　コラッタの　まえば　どちらが　のびるのが　はやいのか　くらべたところ　ひきわけ　だった。|A comparison revealed that Bidoof's front teeth grow at the same rate as Rattata's.}}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Game locations===<br /> {{Availability|<br /> type=normal |<br /> gen=4 |<br /> dprarity=Common |<br /> dparea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|201|Sinnoh}}, {{rtn|202|Sinnoh}}, {{rtn|203|Sinnoh}}, {{rtn|204|Sinnoh}}, {{rtn|205|Sinnoh}}, {{rtn|208|Sinnoh}}, and {{rtn|211|Sinnoh}}, [[Lake Verity]], [[Great Marsh]] |<br /> ptrarity=Common |<br /> ptarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|201|Sinnoh}}, {{rtn|202|Sinnoh}}, {{rtn|203|Sinnoh}}, {{rtn|204|Sinnoh}}, {{rtn|205|Sinnoh}}, {{rtn|208|Sinnoh}}, and {{rtn|211|Sinnoh}}, [[Lake Verity]], [[Eterna Forest]] |<br /> hgssrarity=Rare |<br /> hgsssound=Sinnoh |<br /> hgssarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|6|Kanto}}, {{rtn|9|Kanto}}, {{rtn|10|Kanto}}, {{rtn|13|Kanto}}, {{rtn|21|Kanto}}, {{rtn|22|Kanto}}, {{rtn|24|Kanto}}, {{rtn|25|Kanto}}, {{rtn|26|Kanto}}, {{rtn|27|Kanto}}, {{rtn|28|Kanto}}, {{rtn|30|Johto}}, {{rtn|31|Johto}}, {{rtn|32|Johto}}, {{rtn|35|Johto}}, {{rtn|42|Johto}}, {{rtn|43|Johto}}, {{rtn|44|Johto}}, {{rtn|45|Johto}}, {{rtn|47|Johto}}, [[Ruins of Alph]], [[Mt. Silver]] |<br /> walkarea={{pw|Sinnoh Field}}|<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ====In side games====<br /> {{SidegameAvail<br /> |type=Normal<br /> |md2=[[Mystifying Forest]] (B1-B13)&lt;br&gt;[[Mystery Jungle]] (B1-B29)<br /> |ranger2=[[Ranger School]]&lt;br&gt;[[Vientown]]<br /> |scramble=[[Windy Prairie‎]]<br /> |ranger3=[[Hinder Cape]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Stats===<br /> ====Base stats====<br /> {{BaseStats|<br /> type=normal |<br /> HP= 59 |<br /> Attack= 45 |<br /> Defense=40 |<br /> SpAtk= 35 |<br /> SpDef= 40 |<br /> Speed= 31 }}<br /> <br /> ====Pokéathlon stats====<br /> {{Pokéthlon<br /> |type=Normal<br /> |Speed=2<br /> |SpeedMax=4<br /> |Power=2<br /> |PowerMax=4<br /> |Technique=1<br /> |TechniqueMax=4<br /> |Stamina=3<br /> |StaminaMax=4<br /> |Jump=2<br /> |JumpMax=2<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Type effectiveness===<br /> {{Type effectiveness|<br /> type1=normal|<br /> Normal= 100 |<br /> Fighting=200 |<br /> Flying= 100 |<br /> Poison= 100 |<br /> Ground= 100 |<br /> Rock= 100 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/> type=normal |<br /> ndex=399 |<br /> Dungeon2=yes |<br /> body2=1 |<br /> rate2=8.2 |<br /> iq=F |<br /> Ranger2=yes |<br /> group2=Normal |<br /> assist2=Normal |<br /> field2=Crush |<br /> field2power=1 |<br /> browser2=It occasionally pretends to attack. |<br /> Ranger3=yes |<br /> group3=Normal |<br /> assist3=Normal |<br /> field3=Crush |<br /> field3power=1 |<br /> browser3=It lets loose shock waves to attack. |<br /> Pad=They live in a house in the river in the Meadow Zone. Their favorite Attraction is Bulbasaur's Daring Dash. |<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Evolution===<br /> {{evobox<br /> |family=Normal<br /> |sprite1=399|<br /> |name1=Bidoof<br /> |type1-1=Normal<br /> |evotype1=Level<br /> |level1=15<br /> |sprite2=400<br /> |name2=Bibarel<br /> |type1-2=Normal<br /> |type2-2=Water}}<br /> <br /> ===Sprites===<br /> {{Sprite|<br /> type=normal|<br /> gen=4|<br /> gender=both|<br /> ndex=399|<br /> name=Bidoof|<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> * In each region, there is a two-stage {{type2|Normal}} Pokémon encountered early in the region. Bidoof is the [[Sinnoh]] variation on this theme, while {{p|Rattata}}, {{p|Sentret}}, {{p|Zigzagoon}}, and {{p|Minezumi}} are those of other regions. Out of all of them, however, Bidoof is the only one whose {{p|Bibarel|evolution}} is not pure Normal-type.<br /> * Bidoof's Platinum Pokédex entry references {{p|Rattata}} despite not being in the same regional Pokédex as it.<br /> * Bidoof and its [[Bibarel (Pokémon)|evolution]] are the only {{type2|Normal}} Pokémon that learn {{m|Curse}} by level-up.<br /> <br /> ===Origin===<br /> Bidoof appears to be based on a {{wp|beaver}}, or a {{wp|gopher}}. It is particularly similar to the {{wp|mountain beaver}}, a primitive relative of beavers lacking tails.<br /> ====Name origin====<br /> Its name is derived from ''beaver'' and ''doofus'' or ''tooth''. Bidoof's Japanese name Bippa is derived from the English word ''beaver'' and 出っ歯 ''deppa'', protruding tooth.<br /> <br /> ==In other languages==<br /> *[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Bidiza - From ''Biber'' (beaver). <br /> *[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Keunottor - From ''quenotte'' (milk tooth) and ''castor'' (beaver).<br /> *[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 비버니 ''Beaverni''<br /> *[[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese (Taiwan)]]: 大牙狸 ''Dà Yá Lí'' - 大牙 means big teeth. 狸 is derived from 河狸 (beaver). <br /> <br /> <br /> {{PokémonPrevNextFoot | type=normal | prevnum=398 | nextnum=400 | prev=Staraptor | next=Bibarel }}<br /> {{Project Pokédex notice}}<br /> <br /> [[de:Bidiza]]<br /> [[es:Bidoof]]<br /> [[fr:Keunotor]]<br /> [[ja:ビッパ]]<br /> [[pl:Bidoof]]<br /> [[pt:Bidoof (pokémon)]]</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Drapion_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=1273320 2010-12-02T19:43:34Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* Game locations */</p> <hr /> <div>{{PokémonPrevNext | type=poison | type2=dark | prevnum=451 | nextnum=453 | prev=Skorupi | next=Croagunk }}<br /> {{PokémonInfobox|<br /> name=Drapion |<br /> jname=ドラピオン |<br /> tmname=Dorapion |<br /> art=DP |<br /> image=452Drapion.png |<br /> pron=&lt;sc&gt;dra-pi-yon&lt;/sc&gt;|<br /> ndex=452 |<br /> sdex=128 |<br /> abrow=174 |<br /> obrow=263 |<br /> opbrow=051 |<br /> typen=2 |<br /> type1=Poison |<br /> type2=Dark |<br /> species=Ogre Scorp |<br /> height-ftin=4'03&quot; |<br /> height-m=1.3 |<br /> weight-lbs=135.6 |<br /> weight-kg=61.5 |<br /> abilityn=2 |<br /> ability1=Battle Armor |<br /> ability2=Sniper |<br /> abilityd=Keen Eye |<br /> egggroupn=2 |<br /> egggroup1=Bug |<br /> egggroup2=Water 3 |<br /> eggcycles=20 |<br /> evde=2|<br /> expyield=204 |<br /> lv100exp=1,250,000 |<br /> gendercode=127|<br /> color=Purple |<br /> catchrate=45 |<br /> body= 14|<br /> pokefordex=drapion |<br /> generation=4 |<br /> footnotes= }}<br /> '''Drapion''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ドラピオン''' ''Dorapion'') is a dual-type {{2t|Poison|Dark}} Pokémon.<br /> <br /> It [[Evolution|evolve]]s from {{p|Skorupi}} starting at [[level]] 40.<br /> <br /> ==Biology==<br /> ===Physiology===<br /> Drapion is a large, purple, scorpion-like Pokémon. Its eyes are a pointed shape, with blue-colored upper portions. Drapion has two small, pointed protrusions between its eyes, and one on the back on its head. Drapion also has protrusions on its jaws, two on the upper and three on the lower, with large, fang-like, white-colored features extending from its mouth. Its body is composed of many violet-to-lavender body segments which ends with a tail with two stingers. Drapion has four segmented legs with pointed toes. Its most distinguished feature is its huge claws, which have a blue circular marking on the undersides, a similar marking being on the tail, and the fact that it can turn its head 180º.<br /> ====Gender differences====<br /> None.<br /> <br /> ===Special abilities===<br /> For its size this Pokémon is very strong, and has enough power to easily scrap a car. It's also encased in a tough exoskeleton and it is quite poisonous. It can rotate its head 180 degrees, and can also extend its tail.<br /> <br /> ===Behavior===<br /> <br /> Possessing a sturdy build, it takes pride in its strength, being able to take down foes without using toxins. <br /> <br /> ===Habitat===<br /> It is probably native to dry desert areas, much like {{p|Skorupi}}. However, it is found in Pastoria City's [[Great Marsh]].<br /> <br /> ===Diet===<br /> {{main|Pokémon food}}<br /> <br /> ==In the anime==<br /> [[File:Paul Drapion.png|thumb|250px|Drapion in the anime]]<br /> Drapion's first appearance was in ''[[DP020|Mutiny in the Bounty]]'', under [[J|Pokémon Hunter J]]'s ownership.<br /> <br /> Paul tried to capture a Drapion in ''[[DP081|Chim - Charred!]]''.<br /> <br /> A Drapion is used by one of the students of [[Pokémon Summer Academy]] in the first leg of the Pokémon Triathlon in ''[[DP091|One Team, Two Team, Red Team, Blue Team!]]''.<br /> <br /> {{EF|Aaron}}'s Drapion appeared in ''[[DP099|A Trainer and Child Reunion!]]''.<br /> <br /> [[Reggie]] used a Drapion to battle {{FB|Pyramid King|Brandon}} as shown in the flashback in ''[[DP128|A Pyramiding Rage!]]''.<br /> <br /> [[Paul]] has a {{TP|Paul|Drapion}} which he used to battle Ash in [[DP186]] and [[DP187]].<br /> <br /> ===Pokédex entries===<br /> {{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}<br /> {{Animedexbody|DP020|Drapion|Ash's Pokédex|Drapion, the Ogre Scorp Pokémon. Its claws give off a deadly poison and they are powerful enough to turn an automobile into scrap iron.}}<br /> {{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond &amp; Pearl''|Sinnoh}}<br /> <br /> ==In the manga==<br /> A Drapion belonging to a [[Team Galactic]] grunt appeared in ''[[PS362|Vs. Drapion and Kricketune I]]'' and ''[[PS363|Vs. Drapion and Kricketune II]]''.<br /> <br /> ==In the TCG==<br /> {{main|Drapion (TCG)}}<br /> <br /> ==Game data==<br /> ===NPC appearances===<br /> * [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness]]: Drapion is part of [[Team AWD]], a team that pursues the challenges of Zero Isle.<br /> *[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky]]: [[Team AWD]] are shown in the [[Team Charm]] special episode, being the major antagonists of the story.<br /> <br /> ===Pokédex entries===<br /> {{Dex<br /> |type=poison<br /> |type2=dark<br /> |gen=4<br /> |diamonddex=It has the power in its clawed arms to make scrap of a car. The tips of its claws release poison.<br /> |pearldex=Its body is encased in a sturdy shell. Its head rotates 180 degrees, eliminating blind spots.<br /> |platinumdex=Possessing a sturdy build, it takes pride in its strength, taking down foes without using toxins.<br /> |hgssdex=It attacks people and Pokémon that cross the desert. This has only furthered its bad reputation.<br /> |bwdex={{tt|もうどくを　つかわなくても　じまんの　ちからで　あいてを　バラバラにする　がんじょうな　からだの　もちぬし。|Possessing a sturdy build, it takes pride in its strength, taking down foes without using toxins.}}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Game locations===<br /> {{Availability|<br /> type=poison |<br /> type2=dark |<br /> gen=4 |<br /> dprarity=Rare |<br /> dparea=[[Great Marsh]] |<br /> ptrarity=Uncommon |<br /> hgssrarity=None |<br /> hgssarea=Evolve [[Skorupi (Pokémon)|Skorupi]] |<br /> ptarea=[[Great Marsh]] |<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ====In side games====<br /> {{SidegameAvail<br /> |type=Poison<br /> |type2=Dark<br /> |md2=[[Spacial Rift]] (B1-B6)<br /> |ranger2=[[Cargo Ship]] (during mission)<br /> |scramble=[[Eternal Tower]]<br /> |ranger3=[[Layuda Island]]&lt;br&gt;[[Forest Temple]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Held items===<br /> {{HeldItems<br /> |type=poison|type2=dark<br /> |dppt1=Poison Barb|dppt1type=Type-enhancing item|dppt1rar=5<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Stats===<br /> ====Base stats====<br /> {{BaseStats|<br /> type=poison |<br /> type2=dark |<br /> HP= 70 |<br /> Attack= 90 |<br /> Defense=110 |<br /> SpAtk= 60 |<br /> SpDef= 75 |<br /> Speed= 95 }}<br /> <br /> ====Pokéathlon stats====<br /> {{Pokéthlon<br /> |type=Poison<br /> |type2=Dark<br /> |Speed=1<br /> |SpeedMax=2<br /> |Power=4<br /> |PowerMax=5<br /> |Technique=4<br /> |TechniqueMax=5<br /> |Stamina=4<br /> |StaminaMax=4<br /> |Jump=2<br /> |JumpMax=2<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Type effectiveness===<br /> {{Type effectiveness|<br /> type1=Poison|<br /> type2=Dark|<br /> Normal= 100 |<br /> Fighting=100 |<br /> Flying= 100 |<br /> Poison= 50 |<br /> Ground= 200 |<br /> Rock= 100 |<br /> Bug= 100 |<br /> Ghost= 50 |<br /> Steel= 100 |<br /> <br /> Fire= 100 |<br /> Water= 100 |<br /> Grass= 50 |<br /> Electric=100 |<br /> Psychic= 0 |<br /> Ice= 100 |<br /> Dragon= 100 |<br /> Dark= 50 |<br /> notes=yes|<br /> dark=yes|<br /> newpsychic=2}}<br /> <br /> ===Learnset===<br /> ====By 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{{learnlist/breedf|Drapion|poison|dark|4|4}}<br /> <br /> ====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====<br /> {{learnlist/tutorh|Drapion|poison|dark|5|4}}<br /> {{learnlist/tutor5null}}<br /> {{learnlist/tutorf|Drapion|poison|dark|5|4}}<br /> <br /> ===Side game data===<br /> {{Sidegame|<br /> type=poison |<br /> type2=dark |<br /> ndex=452 |<br /> Dungeon2=yes |<br /> body2=1 |<br /> rate2=-12 |<br /> iq=C |<br /> Ranger2=yes |<br /> group2=Poison |<br /> assist2=Poison |<br /> field2=None |<br /> field2power=- |<br /> browser2=It spits poison needles and a poisonous fluid. It also forms poisonous puddles to attack. |<br /> Ranger3=yes |<br /> group3=Poison |<br /> assist3=Poison |<br /> field3=Crush |<br /> field3power=4 |<br /> browser3=It releases poison that make Pokémon Tired. |<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Evolution===<br /> {{evobox<br /> |family=Normal<br /> |sprite1=451<br /> |name1=Skorupi<br /> |type1-1=Poison<br /> |type2-1=Bug<br /> |evotype1=Level<br /> |level1=40<br /> |sprite2=452<br /> |name2=Drapion<br /> |type1-2=Poison<br /> |type2-2=Dark}}<br /> <br /> ===Sprites===<br /> {{Sprite|<br /> type=poison|<br /> type2=dark|<br /> gen=4|<br /> gender=none|<br /> ndex=452|<br /> name=Drapion|<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> * Two of Drapion's [[ability|abilities]] revolve around critical hits. {{a|Battle Armor}} protects it from them, and {{a|Sniper}} strengthens a move that becomes a critical hit to 3× the damage instead of 2×.<br /> * Despite evolving from {{p|Skorupi}} at level 40, it may be caught at level 28 in the [[Great Marsh]].<br /> * Drapion is the only Pokémon owned by {{EF|Aaron}} of the [[Sinnoh]] [[Elite Four#Sinnoh Elite Four|Elite Four]] that is not {{type2|Bug}}, the type he specializes in. This can probably be explained because its pre-evolution, Skorupi, is part bug. Another reason may be the fact that Drapion is in the {{egg3|Bug}}.<br /> *Despite it being said that Drapion's habitat is the Desert, the player can't catch any in any Desert route or area.<br /> <br /> ===Origin===<br /> Drapion is based on a {{wp|scorpion}}, and has some characteristics that resemble a {{wp|Thelyphonida|vinegarroon}} (a similar arachnid).<br /> <br /> ====Name origin====<br /> Drapion's name may be derived from ''dragon'' or ''drastic'' (because of its violent nature) or ''Dracula'' (because of its huge vampire-looking teeth) and ''scorpion''. Its Japanese name may be derived from the Japanese word 'tora' (トラ) (which would become 'dora' (ドラ) in a compound word), meaning tiger, due to its striped colouration.<br /> <br /> ==In other languages==<br /> *[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Piondragi - From ''Skorpion'' (scorpion), ''Drache'' (dragon), and ''Gift'' (poison).<br /> *[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Drascore - Could be a combination of ''dragon'' and a mispelling of ''scorpion''.<br /> *[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 드래피온 ''Drapion''<br /> *[[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese (Taiwan and Hong Kong)]]: 龍王蠍 ''Lóng Wáng Xiē'' - Literally &quot;Dragon king scorpion&quot;.<br /> <br /> &lt;!--==External links==<br /> --&gt;<br /> {{PokémonPrevNext | type=poison | type2=dark | prevnum=451 | nextnum=453 | prev=Skorupi | next=Croagunk }}<br /> <br /> {{Project Pokédex notice}}<br /> <br /> [[de:Piondragi]]<br /> [[es:Drapion]]<br /> [[fr:Drascore]]<br /> [[ja:ドラピオン]]<br /> [[pl:Drapion]]<br /> [[pt:Drapion (pokémon)]]</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pok%C3%A9_Ball/Archive_1&diff=1270527 2010-11-28T21:37:28Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* BLUE pokeball */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>==Fast Ball==<br /> Just wondering where Abra and Phanpy are coming from, as [http://pokefor.greenchu.de/meowth346/gbc/poke-balls/ Pokémon Forever states] &quot;If the wild Pokémon is Magnemite, Grimer, Tangela, Mr.Mime, Eevee, Porygon, Dratini, or Dragonair, then Catch Rate = Catch Rate * 4.0. Please note that while these Pokémon have a greater chance to catch, not all of them can be found in the wild.&quot;<br /> [[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 09:53, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'm curious, too. I see various sites that say things like &quot;Pokemon who can run away, like Teddiursa, Tangela, or Raikou&quot;, but the game stores a list of Pokemon whom the ball works better on, and that's what I used on PokéFor. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]] 21:09, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> In that case, somebody remove the two offending, untrue Pogeys?<br /> <br /> And Abra really shouldn't be on that list, as it uses Teleport; it doesn't actually run away... [[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 21:45, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)<br /> Teleport counts, though. The quick ball worked on Abra.[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 20:17, 12 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Should Anime-only Balls be included in this? I'm thinking of the Dark Balls and whatever it was that Sammy used from movie 4--BJG<br /> <br /> There was the Dark Ball and the GS Ball. That's all there have been. I think they would make a useful addition, though. [[User:Fabu-Vinny|Fabu-Vinny]] 19:22, 23 May 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==TCG sections==<br /> Shouldn't the page give hyper links to all of the Poké Balls featured in the cards? [[User:Mr. bell|Mr. Bell]] 08:49, 15 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hyper Ball in manga ==<br /> <br /> Do you think it's worth mentioning in the &quot;in the manga&quot; section about the existance of the Hyper Ball? Ash attempts to use it in the EToP manga at the end of issue 4, and is apparently very expensive. [[User:Fsilone|Fsilone]] 02:48, 21 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Isn't the Hyper Ball just the Japanese name of the Ultra Ball? &lt;span style=&quot;background:#FF9030&quot;&gt;'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|155|Fire echy}}&lt;span style=&quot;background:#664444&quot;&gt;[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD700&quot;&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E0E0E0&quot;&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;DS!&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;/span&gt; 03:00, 21 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::...yeah. It is. And it's rather expensive, too... [[User:Tina|Tina]]&lt;sup&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 03:03, 21 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Happiness Balls ==<br /> <br /> Shouldn't there be a note about the increased Happiness rating that Luxury Balls and Friend Balls produce on captured Pokemon? Or is that just a myth that has no bearing on the game data?<br /> :This is a good question, how come it wasn't answered? [[User:Felinoel|Felinoel]] 21:45, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Main Picture ==<br /> <br /> Is an SSBM trophy really appropriate for the main picture on this article? I think it should be a plain Pokéball without the trophy base at the bottom - [[User:MTC|MTC]]<br /> <br /> I think it looks a lot better, just a sharper image if you know what I mean. And it doesn't matter the source, a Poké Ball is a Poké Ball. [[User:Evkl|evkl]] 19:25, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I think the Same as MTC. It could be the picture of a Poké ball that is in the first opening possibly. [[user:David aipom|David aipom]]<br /> <br /> As long as the picture illustrates on how the ball looks like in the anime and games (which it does), the it is acceptable. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 18:17, 22 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Team Rocket Balls... ==<br /> <br /> I clearly remember seeing black balls thrown by the head of Team Rocket in &amp;quot;Mewtwo's Return&amp;quot; feature length episode. Now it's a bit sad since I juest returned the darn video to the rental store and check on this which I saw just moments ago! From my poor memeory I think they were just black pokeballs with the typicial Team Rocket red R instead of red dot.<br /> <br /> They were used to capture the running pokemon (Meoth, Pikachu and the cloned pokemons), though Mewtwo used it's psychich powers to release them, making them somewhat uninteresting...<br /> <br /> Actually, I think you're thinking of the PokéBalls being thrown by the Team Rocket grunts at the herd of Tauros that Mewtwo was lifting with Psychic.[[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 02:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ball Images ==<br /> <br /> The large images are nice, I admit, but perhaps using sprites would make the tables look neater and, by having ones for the Safari, Ultra and Master Balls, more complete? Given time, I could even make modifications of the sprites for the Generation II Balls. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 20:08, 11 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Replacing Images ==<br /> <br /> I don't think that the current images for Hoenn Balls and Poke and Great Ball are nice. I think they're ugly imitations of Sugimori Artwork. I have a Sugimori Artworks for almost all PokeBalls (the Johto ones are bad-qualited, though) and I think they're much better. I think we should replace the current images with the Sugimori's ones.<br /> :I dunno, I don't think the current ones look bad at all - just big, given how much they stretch the rows of the table. And how bad quality are you talking for the Johto ones? Call me a sprite fanatic, but I think the third generation item sprites would look best in the tables. The second generation ones would be missing, but, as I said, I could make some custom ones. Also, I'm not particularly fond of the anime Pokéball image, since it's so heavily pixelated... --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 01:36, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Actually... now that I think of it, perhaps both of our concerns can be dealt with more easily than I thought. Hold on just a little bit... --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 18:50, 20 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == One big vs. many small ==<br /> I've been talking with TTE. The idea of breaking some of the meat of this article up still bugs me on some level, but... well, might as well bring the idea to everyone.<br /> <br /> The idea, basically, is to start having articles for groups of items as well as individual. This one, for example, would be moved to &quot;Ball&quot;, and the lower section would link to the different articles on individual item types. If we do this for this one, we do it for all item groups...<br /> <br /> Thoughts? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] &lt;sup&gt;~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 02:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I think it'd be a good idea. After all, we have separate articles for every berry, why shouldn't we for Poké Balls and held items as well? Then, we could categorize them better, without having a gigantic page (which is what the page on [[held items]] is quickly becoming...).<br /> <br /> :C'mon, anyone else? --'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 21:55, 17 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Ooh, just had an idea. How about dividing the page into individual sections for each type of ball, going into detail about its catch rate, where it's able to be purchased, and so on? --'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 15:59, 14 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Thats a GREAT idea. We could have another template for all the balls. --[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad]] [[User talk:Usyflad10|&lt;font color=&quot;#42528C &quot;&gt;10&lt;/font&gt;''']] 23:21, 4 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Green Pokeball ==<br /> <br /> I uploaded this image i took from the first pokemon episode, but i cant get the sizeing right...Someone should take a look and stick it in the Anime section --[[User:Britannia's Blade|Britannia&amp;#39;s Blade]] 19:33, 23 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Handled. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] &lt;sup&gt;~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 19:53, 23 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Dive Ball ==<br /> What is the increase of efficiency for a dive ball when you are capturing a water/bug hybrid?<br /> :That's the Net Ball that raises the multiplier for Water or Bug Pokémon. Dive Ball in Gen III works better on Pokémon underwater, and in Gen IV works better on Pokémon you encounter while Surfing. Anyway, I think it doesn't stack, but I dunno. If it doesn't stack, it's as listed, but if it does, it's 9x. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 00:19, 21 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Does the Dive Ball really have an increased effect while Surfing in D/P? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 02:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::I Belive it does. It's text says so. I don't know the rate though.<br /> <br /> == Sir Aaron's Staff and the passage of time within the ball. ==<br /> <br /> Should Sir Aaron's Staff be considered a pre-pokéball object as well? Also, should it be noted about how time passes for pokémon contained within pokéballs? There have been a few instances where pokémon have spent of years, centuries even, within a pokéball/pokéball like object and not aging or feeling any sort of passage of time.<br /> <br /> I think so, it is a method of capturing a Pokémon. &lt;big&gt;[[Image:Ani137MS.gif]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User:Tesh|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F05030;&quot;&gt;'''TESH'''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;[[Image:Ani233MS.gif]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User Talk:Tesh|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA;&quot;&gt;'''TALK'''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt; [[Image:Ani474MS.gif]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User:Tesh/Other|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#EEC226;&quot;&gt;'''FUN'''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/big&gt; 16:41, 15 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> This is my fist post (or edit, I'm new)<br /> The passage of time seems to vary between pokéball and pokéball like objects, when in pokéballs, pokémon seem to be conscious (as trainers give commands before releasing them) but don't physically age, but in some other pokéball like object, time passes as if there sleeping while there in the object. amaster6000 11:12, 17 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :There is obviously very little passage of time in Aaron's staff; long enough for Lucario to stew in his rage, but quick enough apparently for him to still be blind. Also remember that most of those centuries-old Pokémon are usually special specimens--often a Psychic-type or something like [[Lokoko]].--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] &lt;small&gt;•&lt;/small&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 14:58, 17 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Lv 2 wurmple breaks master ball ==<br /> <br /> i know the copy is hacked, but how did this happen &lt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqw7bL2HK3E&amp;feature=related&gt;<br /> its supposed that a master ball never breaks<br /> :That's a Great Ball. Dur. {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;n&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe &lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7BBD;&quot;&gt;δ&lt;/span&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|282}}&lt;/sup&gt; 19:56, 15 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Gen IV Park Ball ==<br /> Are the links to the Gen II games really necessary? I know that some people have been using it's resemblance to the GS Ball to support the idea of a Gen IV remake of Gold and Silver, but without an actual statement from Nintendo or Game Freak, should we really make it seem like such speculation is factual? --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 13:25, 25 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> == Hey, look what I found! ==<br /> Hey, I was surfing through Youtube the other day, and look what I found! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAfAKDFPw0o There's a planet in the &quot;Bouy Base Galaxy&quot; in Super Mario Galaxy that looks like a Poké Ball! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7F00&quot;&gt;Theryguy&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 00:33, 1 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The videos been removed :( But i found a new link http://youtube.com/watch?v=MweOaEzAesw [[user:David aipom|David aipom]]<br /> <br /> == Jelly Donuts? ==<br /> Umm, in the anime section of the article, someone links to a Rice Ball as a Jelly Donut. I don't think it should be referred to as this, regardless of what 4Kids calls it. [[User:Shonen Jump Master|Shonen Jump Master]] 15:45, 23 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ball capsulses ==<br /> <br /> Should we mention ball capsules in this article?[[User:Darkmaster0|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#BBBBBB;&quot;&gt;Darkmaster&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Darkmaster0|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#AAAAAA;&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt;]]15:48, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Not really, they are not significant to the pokeball at all[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;'''C '''&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;'''Is'''&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;'''for Cookie'''&lt;/span&gt;]]<br /> ::What do you mean they have nothing to do with the Poké Ball? I think they should be mentioned somewhere in the article. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7F00&quot;&gt;Theryguy&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 22:46, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::Same here, I think so too. With a (brief) list of the Seals, maybe? [[User:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;Tina&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]]{{ani|281}}&lt;/sup&gt; 22:49, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == &quot;You missed the Pokémon!&quot; ==<br /> <br /> I'm not sure where to include this, but it was possible to see ^that message^ when throwing a Pokéball in Generation I. &lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF&quot;&gt;--'''''Posted by'''''&lt;/span&gt; [[User:Deadlymethane|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#7BA05B&quot;&gt;'''''Deadly'''''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Deadlymethane|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#7BA05B&quot;&gt;'''''methane'''''&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;span style=&quot;color:#DA3287&quot;&gt;'''at'''&lt;/span&gt; 21:12, 29 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I remember... Stupid Safari Zone... '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:21, 30 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> I took the liberty of adding it myself. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 13:16, 4 May 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Heavy Ball? ==<br /> <br /> It says that heavy ball is &quot;+20 +30 -10&quot;<br /> What does that mean? +X to the catch rate? or what?<br /> --[[User:MewUser|MewUser]] 17:16, 4 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Heavy Ball added to the catch rate, So a +30 on a catch rate of 3 would make it catch rate 33. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 17:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> From the information given on the page, Snorlax would be the only Gen II pokemon to get the +30 and the +20 would rare as well e.g. Graveler is only 105Kg and HO-OH is only 199Kg [[User:Tzion|Tzion]] 22:35, 18 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == the old ball ==<br /> <br /> did you put in that old ball from pokemon 4 ever the movie. the picture is at http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/90/Old_Poké_Ball_from_Pokémon_4Ever.png/180px-Old_Poké_Ball_from_Pokémon_4Ever.png {{unsigned|Talvin7111}}<br /> &lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;<br /> We need a better quality picture than that, surely? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 00:33, 2 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> :The only image I could find was Wiipedia's: [[:Wikipedia:Image:Old Poké Ball from Pokémon 4Ever.png]]. Isn't there a better screenshot? &lt;font color=&quot;#788878&quot;&gt;→&lt;/font&gt;&amp;nbsp;[[User:C Teng|&lt;font color=&quot;#3366BB&quot;&gt;C&amp;nbsp;Teng&lt;/font&gt;]]&amp;nbsp;[[User talk:C Teng|&lt;font color=&quot;#E32636&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[talk]&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]] 13:10, 30 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::I don't know how to replace an existing image so could someone do it for me? [http://img178.yfrog.com/gal.php?g=48637373.jpg Old Poké_Ball] I took these screenshots from the DVD at 16:9. Click on the image for their full size. [[User:Coololz352|Coololz352]] 00:21, 8 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::The image needs to be uploaded to the archives, then the image can be replaced. Preferably the image would be retaken as a png, rather than a jpg though, as they are better quality (although with the current image I'm sure it can be overlooked). To upload images, go to the archives (in the side bar) and log in with your Bulbapedia username and password, then upload the image, e.g. to ''Sammy's_Old_Poké_Ball.png'' or something similar. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;small&gt;(talk)&lt;/small&gt;]] 06:25, 8 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Poké Ball Images ==<br /> <br /> The larger images for the &quot;Generation II Poké Balls&quot; are not showing up. It is just showing the name of the images. Is this just me?--[[User:Mjr162006|Mjr162006]] 03:47, 24 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br&gt;&lt;small&gt;Yeah, I'm new here.&lt;/small&gt;<br /> :Never mind.I cant see them either[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:##800000;&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/span&gt;]]<br /> <br /> ::It looks like the images were either deleted, or never existed in the first place.--[[User:Mjr162006|Mjr162006]] 04:03, 24 August 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::They were there.I remember seeing them.......A MYSTERY![[User:Darth Cookie Monster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:##800000;&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/span&gt;]]<br /> <br /> ::::It is just a wild guess, but could this have anything to do with the recent upgrade to MediaWiki 1.13.0? Sometimes things can accidentally get lost when the wiki software is updated. I know that has happened more than once at Zelda Wiki.org (my main wiki).--[[User:Mjr162006|Mjr162006]] 04:17, 24 August 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Generation II ==<br /> <br /> Generation II has no Poké Ball sprites?&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Calibri&quot;&gt;~[[User:Pokemaniac102|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#AAAAFF;&quot;&gt;Ποκε&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFAAAA;&quot;&gt;μανιακ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#999999;&quot;&gt;α0β&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt; 17:21, 19 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> *There were no pokéball sprites. [[User:Phocks|Phocks ~ Come dance with me!]] 09:15, 30 October 2008.<br /> <br /> == Origin of the Concept? ==<br /> <br /> &quot;In the series, Ultraseven, when unable to fight (usually because his Ultra Eye has been stolen), Dan will often produce a small capsule that releases a giant-sized monster to fight in his place.&quot;<br /> <br /> Now I'm not sure if this is true or not, but I believe the concept of &quot;Keeping Pokémon inside Pokéballs&quot; originated from Ultraseven. --[[User:Arima|Arima]] 00:52, 13 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> :&quot;Originate&quot; seems to strong a word. Inspired by, possibly. Worth a mention on the page, maybe. State as fact a connection that's at best speculation, unless we hear that Satoshi Tajiri said something in an interview confirming that Ultraseven is where he got the concept...not such a good idea. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 01:48, 13 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::GASP! OR MAYBE ITS INSPIRED BY THE TALE OF GENIES! MYSTICAL BEINGS BEING KEPT IN CONTAINERS AND FORCED TO DO BATTLE WITH EACH OTHER.<br /> :::Dont put that nonsense on the page. Their are so many other references its not worth it--[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;Shut the **** up&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Spy on My Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> ::::Genies don't even battle. They grant wishes. Besides, that sounds ridiculous.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:51, 10 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::Exactly why he said don't put that stuff in there. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 04:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == About the Master Ball... ==<br /> Should we include the locations of the master balls from games? Or is that off-topic. And if yes, where shall we put it? --[[User:Metagross72|Metagross72]] 04:45, 2 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Thats a valid point, but no, that would seem like overkill[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;曲奇饼妖怪&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Spy on My Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> ::I Think that this article should tell about the locations of the Poké Ball kinds, or at least where to buy them because I'm getting agravated from having to run all over Sinnoh just to buy a Dusk Ball. [[User:Dolphin2|Dolphins_are_awesome!]] 16:45, 20 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::No. We are an encyclopedia, not a strategy guide.[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;曲奇饼妖怪&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Spy on My Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ::::I know! I'll make a page called Locations of Master Balls! I got this idea from [[Locations of TMs]]. I'll do that right now! --[[User:Metagross72|Metagross72]] 23:58, 28 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::: That'll get everyone getting Masterballs, But no, we don't need another article which is highly likely to get deleted in less then 0.11111111111111111111 seconds.--[[User:Force Fire|&lt;font color=&quot;FF7777&quot;&gt;FF&lt;/font&gt;]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|&lt;font color=&quot;7777FF&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;edits&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]]-[[User talk:Force Fire|&lt;font color=&quot;28E228&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;talk&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]]) 00:12, 29 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Maybe Locations of limited availibilty Poké Balls? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|¿Nos hablamos?]] 00:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Such as? [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 04:34, 30 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Reviving something old here, but really. The Master Ball is an important part of the game, just because we list where you can obtain one doesn't make us a &quot;strategy guide&quot;, in my opinion it makes us more like an encyclopedia as an encyclopedia tries to have '''all''' the information on something, including the locations of things. Making a new article is taking it a little too far, but if it hasn't been done already (and I skimmed through the article and it seems to not have been done) we should list the locations of the Master Balls. That and a lot of people are probably going to want to know where too find them. [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 21:28, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I agree with that. In Kanto it was a gift from the Silph president, Johto I don't know because I never bought the games, Hoenn in the Aqua/Magma hideout in R/S and then Aqua hideout in E, and then Cyrus gives it to you in D/P/Pt. Unless that's only in Pt. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 21:54, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::Elm gives you the Master Ball in GSC. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 22:01, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::And now someone just needs to figure out a neat (as in, tidy) was of adding the information onto the article... I recommend in a table/box kinda thing, I'd do it myself but I'm both busy, and I have no idea how too. xD Sorry I'm not much help. [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 22:25, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::::How about this?<br /> {| {{bluetable2|c sortable}} align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #ccf;&quot;<br /> ! Generation<br /> ! Game(s)<br /> ! Location<br /> ! Requirements<br /> ! Notes<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation I|I]]<br /> | {{game|Green}}, {{2v|Red|Blue}}, {{game|Yellow}}<br /> | [[Silph Co.]] <br /> | Talk to the president after defeating [[Giovanni]].<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation II|II]]<br /> | {{3v|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}<br /> | [[Professor Elm]]'s laboratory<br /> | Talk to Professor Elm after earning all eight badges.<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation II|II]]<br /> | {{3v|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}<br /> | [[Johto Radio Tower]]<br /> | Match all 5 numbers in the [[Lucky Number Show]].<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation III|III]]<br /> | {{game|Ruby}} <br /> | [[Magma Hideout]], [[Maxie]]'s office <br /> | None<br /> | Entrance is blocked off after battling {{p|Groudon}}.<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation III|III]]<br /> | {{game|Sapphire}}, {{game|Emerald}} <br /> | [[Aqua Hideout]], [[Archie]]'s office <br /> | None<br /> | Entrance is blocked off after battling {{p|Kyogre}}. (Sapphire only)<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation III|III]]<br /> | {{3v|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}<br /> | [[Lilycove Department Store]] <br /> | Defeat your rival in front of the store, match all 5 numbers in the lottery.<br /> | <br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation III|III]]<br /> | {{g|Colosseum}}<br /> | [[Agate Village]] <br /> | Recieve incomplete email from [[Eagun]] in [[Realgam Tower]]<br /> | Eagun's email is cut off before it can mention the Master Ball.<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation III|III]]<br /> | {{g|XD}} <br /> | [[Pokémon HQ Lab]] <br /> | Talk to [[Professor Krane]] before heading to [[Citadark Isle]]<br /> | <br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation III|III]]<br /> | {{2v|FireRed|LeafGreen}}<br /> | [[Silph Co.]] <br /> | Talk to the president after defeating [[Giovanni]]<br /> | <br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation IV|IV]]<br /> | {{3v|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}<br /> | [[Galactic Veilstone Building]] <br /> | Defeat [[Cyrus]]<br /> | <br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation IV|IV]]<br /> | {{3v|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}<br /> | [[Jubilife TV]] <br /> | Earn the {{badge|Coal}}, defeat the [[Galactic Grunt]]s near the northern exit of [[Jubilife City]], match all 5 numbers in the lottery.<br /> | <br /> |-<br /> &lt;!--| [[Generation IV|IV]]<br /> | {{2v|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}<br /> | [[Professor Elm]]'s laboratory <br /> | Talk to Professor Elm after earning all eight badges.<br /> | Probably not a good idea to reveal this bit until after the games are released, eh?<br /> |- --&gt;<br /> |}<br /> <br /> Is this any good? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] &lt;small&gt;[[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]]&lt;/small&gt; 23:07, 9 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah I think that looks pretty good. :D Anyone have any objections? [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 23:57, 9 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::If there are no objections, and I don't think there are any, I'll just go ahead and put this on the page now. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] &lt;small&gt;[[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]]&lt;/small&gt; 00:41, 10 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::It doesn't really look like it fits at its current place. Maybe would could make a page exclusive to masterballs as we could do some in the anime stuff and put this table there... we could also add screenshots of where the masterballs are found. Additionally the table isn't quite consistent as it says after battling Kyogre (Sapphire only) it should also say after battling Groudon (Ruby only). Otherwise, everything is great. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 00:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::The (Sapphire only) part is because Sapphire&amp;Emerald have the Aqua hideout. It's only blocked in Sapphire, not Emerald. That's why it's there. As for the chart, if it could be made a bit smaller and collapsible, or at least smaller, then it would be a bit better. And if it can't be made smaller, then collapsible would probably be fine. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 14:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::Making it collapsible is a better option than making a whole page dedicated too the Master Balls I guess. [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 14:33, 10 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::It's way better than a separate page, because then we'd have to make one for every single Poké Ball. The only real significance between it and the others is that it never fails, and there's only one per game unless you get extremely lucky at the lottery. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 14:38, 10 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Yeah, I mean, I'm actually neutral too the idea of a separate page for the Master Balls, as in my opinion there's kinda important, but meh. [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 14:57, 10 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Opponent's only keep Pokémon in Poké Balls? ==<br /> <br /> &quot;In the games, all opponents keep their Pokémon in Poké Balls. The reason for this is unknown.&quot;<br /> <br /> Whoever put this up, what is this supposed to mean? If you mean they always keep them in Balls, then it's false, because there are countless trainers in-game that let their Pokémon wander around, and in Colosseum and XD you can even battle them, but they'll go back into their Ball pre-battle.<br /> <br /> I interpreted as the type of Ball, since it's true all opponents keep them in Poké Balls, not Ultra Balls or whatever, but since there's contention, I think some real clarification would be nice. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:39, 27 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I sure of seen some other ball somewhere, but thats besides the point. I interpreted it as in the case of Ash's Pikachu, not being in the pokeball, but battling in the anime, while the jigglypuff in yellow version and a machop in gold couldnt battle, but you could see the walking around[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;曲奇饼妖怪&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Spy on My Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> ::Then it's not true that all opponents keep their Pokémon in their Balls. Best example is the Shadow Lugia in XD, who was definitely not kept in a Ball.[[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:46, 27 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::Did an opponent use it? Was it ever &quot;captured&quot; in anyway?[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;曲奇饼妖怪&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Spy on My Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> ::::Yes, Greevil clearly commanded it to attack and it did, not to mention you had to use a Snag Ball to catch it, not a regular Ball like the wild Pokémon. There are other examples in that game. In Phenac, a Peon is talking to his Absol before you battle him, and he uses the Absol in battle. In Agate Village, there is an old woman standing with a Mightyena and if you choose to battle her, she uses the Mightyena. Eagun also keeps his Pikachu out but still uses it to battle. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:55, 27 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Non main game but ok. Im gonna go locate that trainer with the safari zone. Keep it the way you have it[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;曲奇饼妖怪&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Spy on My Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt; 04:57, 27 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: You're all missing the point, I think that who first posted this was trying to say that when you battle another trainer they always send out their Pokémon in normal Poké Balls, you know, because I've never seen an in-game opponent sending out any Pokémon in a, say, Master Ball. However, why is this important, I mean, yeah it's true, but I don't think is something we should see in the article, or is it important? I may be wrong.--[[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 18:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Apricorn Balls ==<br /> <br /> There is what looks to be official images of the Apricorn Balls at this photobucket account [http://s280.photobucket.com/albums/kk200/sexton_06/Weapons/] as well as some better quality images of the Hoenn balls here [http://s113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/Sckar_2006/Animes/Pokemon/Pokebolas/?start=0] There is also better quality images of the [http://media.photobucket.com/image/dusk%20ball/CL4M9/DuskBall.png?o=3] Dusk Ball, [http://s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc32/Marcos98/?action=view&amp;current=heal.jpg] Heal Ball and [http://s265.photobucket.com/albums/ii239/CL4M9/?action=view&amp;current=CherishBall.png] Cherish Ball. Just throwing them out there to see if you want to use them. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 13:00, 19 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Question about quick ball and timer ball ==<br /> <br /> What classes as a turn? Is it every one of YOUR turns, or the total amount of turns in battle?<br /> ie<br /> You use false swipe,<br /> Pokemon uses hyper beam,<br /> Would this be counted by the game as 1 turn or 2? --[[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 22:34, 20 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :one turn.--&lt;small&gt;[[Flash Fire (ability)|&lt;font color=&quot;turquoise&quot;&gt;freezing&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;[[Heat Wave (move)|&lt;font color=&quot;teal&quot;&gt;COLD&lt;/font&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;&lt;sub&gt;([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]])&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/small&gt; 22:35, 20 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Dusk Ball ==<br /> <br /> Dusk Ball is in effect while in a forest? I mean... do forests like Eterna activate the ''night'' effect of the Dusk Ball? Or is it in effect at night only? '''[[User:Hfc2x|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#008800&quot;&gt;h&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;fc&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#008800&quot;&gt;X&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 20:05, 23 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Good question. I know it works everywhere at night and in caves 24/7... But in forests? That's a good question. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]].....[[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|IT IS TIME!]] 20:15, 23 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 3D Picture ==<br /> <br /> Don't you think it would be better to have Ken Sugimori's artwork for the Poké Ball instead of that 3D Picture? It's not really official artwork and looks nothing like the balls in the anime! I think if we used Ken Sugimori's artwork it would give people more of a general idea of what Poké Balls actually look like. Just an idea! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 12:09, 25 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Do you have one? --☆'''[[User:Kevzo8|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A2958D&quot;&gt;Ke&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B8B8D0&quot;&gt;vz&lt;/span&gt;]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#705898&quot;&gt;o8&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 12:18, 25 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> Why don't you just use the Pokeball pic from the chart down the page. I believe that it's a Sugimori.--[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad10]] 01:28, 25 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Anime Pokeballs ==<br /> <br /> Half the anime pokeballs are actully just customized pokeballs painted to look unique, namely the Lake Ball, Chansey ball, Green Pokeball and Rocket Ball. The game series also suggest that custom poke balls exist in this manner; when you deliver Oak's Parcel he states it's a custom ordered Poke Ball. By listeing these under the heading &quot;Customized Pokeballs&quot; we can save some space.--[[User:Lego3400|Lego3400]] 23:49, 2 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Rich lady expensive custom ball ==<br /> <br /> I remember a episode where a rich lady gets a custom ball from a jewelry store (like you would get a watch.) I can't remember if the woman had a snubull or if it was that female meowth that inspired TR Meowth to learn to talk. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 21:43, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Probably {{TP|Madame Muchmoney|Snubbull}}. It sounds about right. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 21:51, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::but why is there no mention of these novelty or should i say costume (like fake jewelry) balls? [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 22:34, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::No, no no, Hunter Blade. It was Meowzee (spelling?) the Meowth whose Poké Ball had loads off jewelry on it. If my memory serves right. [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 23:03, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::: I think I'm going just add something about the option of buying custom balls for pets. ^_^;; [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 23:22, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::: Added. geez.... I'd Marry a Wobbufet or become a Mormon and marry Jessie and Jessiebelle before Meowzie's owner. Woman had me pulling a Fred G. Sanford.<br /> <br /> ::::: It seems that the basic outer appearance is the same, just the ball Meowzie's owner bought was diamond studded. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 00:05, 9 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Brock, Ninetales and breaking the ball? ==<br /> <br /> In the last part of the mechanics section it says Brock breaks his ball after releasing Ninetales ? that can't be right, his article says noting about a Ninetales being in his procession and i don't remember him having one or breaking a ball [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 00:58, 9 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> :[[EP232]]. Last paragraph of the synopsis. &amp;mdash; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000C8&quot;&gt;THE TROM&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] &amp;mdash; 01:04, 9 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: It needs rewording, it makes it sound like brock was the one who broke the ball. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 01:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Green Poké Ball ==<br /> <br /> Does Gold's Gold and Silver pic have one, just to mention?--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 23:53, 18 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == TCG ==<br /> <br /> Where's the link to the regular Poké Ball card? Nowhere. Off to link it.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FE2E9A&quot;&gt;''Mew''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;span class=&quot;explain&quot; title=&quot;Prmatt11 or Mew are my ONLY names!&quot;&gt;*&lt;/span&gt; [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' was here at 11:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I agree, they really need to put the Pokémon card!--[[User:The Bulb&amp;#39;s Master|The Bulb&amp;#39;s Master]] 02:06, 3 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Timer Ball... ==<br /> <br /> Does the Timer Ball increase in...<br /> :a) turns after start<br /> :b) turns after last Poké Ball (from start if none)<br /> :c) turns after last Timer Ball (from start if none)<br /> <br /> ...? &lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] ([[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Giratina's_Embodiment|contribs]])'' &lt;/small&gt; 18:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> :After the start of the battle. You can alternatively think of this as 'since the wild Pokémon appeared'. This has been noted in the article. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 20:15, 4 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Johto ball art ==<br /> <br /> YAY<br /> <br /> Okay so how soon can we get that in here? '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 02:55, 10 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == the heavy ball ==<br /> <br /> So the heavy ball takes 30 away from the catch rate if the pokemon is under 100kg, what if a pokemon already has a catch rate lower than 30 and is under 100kg? ie the [[lake trio]] and [[cresselia]], would their catch rate be a negative value? Would it be even possible to catch them in a heavy ball? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 12:10, 11 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Well I managed to get Raikou in a heavy ball which, according to this page, would have meant Raikou had a catch rate of -17 because his weight is lower than 451.5 lbs (it's 392.4 lbs). So it either doesn't take any more off the catch rate when it's 3 or I got very very lucky. [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 00:50, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == safari ball art ==<br /> <br /> in the platinum guidebook, there is a picture of safarai ball. why is the picture of the safari ball here fanmade? -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 09:44, 12 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Because no one's uploaded it. Feel free to tidy it up and upload it yourself. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 09:59, 12 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == HGSS/DPPt? ==<br /> <br /> Since the balls in HG and SS are not programmed into DP and Pt, will trading between the two games be possible if using an apricorn ball? I don't know how they'd make that work. [[User:Dexington|Dexington]] 19:35, 17 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> :No one does at this stage. There are plenty of speculations on the Bulbagarden Forums, if you'd like to discuss this further. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 19:58, 17 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Has this been explored any further yet?--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 22:38, 15 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Gen II balls become Poké Balls. They cannot be held. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 04:18, 16 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::What happens if they are traded back? Does stay a PokéBall, or does it change back to what they were caught in? This sort of thing should go in the page. (Or was it already?)[[User:Poisson14|Poisson14]] 02:56, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::Are you sure? If I try to view a pokemon that was caught in a HGSS-only ball on my pearl cart (via the trade screen), it crashes. Any pokemon in HGSS-only balls also appear as bad eggs in PBR. --[[User:Pyritie|Pyritie]] 11:23, 15 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::HGSS Balls -&gt; plain Poké Balls. Just tested it. I don't have PBR, so I can't test that. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:47, 15 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Hmm, odd... no idea what's causing the problem then. --[[User:Pyritie|Pyritie]] 12:14, 16 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Could be because of a hacking code gone wrong. If you didn't hack, it could be some sort of hardware glitch or someone else might have hacked it (if lent to somebody for some time or bought as a used game). [[User:Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#CD7F32&quot;&gt;Turtwig's&lt;/font&gt;]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF7F00&quot;&gt;A-B-Cs&lt;/font&gt;]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#green&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/font&gt;]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#yellow&quot;&gt;contribs&lt;/font&gt;]]) 00:29, 17 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Possibly trivia ==<br /> <br /> I have noticed in the anime, NO one throws the ball with their left hand ever (Excluding throwing 2 or more balls at the same time) --[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 18:12, 22 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Other manga? ==<br /> <br /> What are Pokeballs like in other manga? I know in D&amp;P Adventures, they're similar to Special's view on Pokeballs. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 00:24, 12 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Fast Ball ==<br /> <br /> according to serebii the fast ball works on pokemon with a &quot;high speed&quot; in HGSS instead of pokemon that flee. The rest look the same as GSC. Does anyone know what/can find out what the threshold for the pokemon's speed is for it work. And is based on a pokemon's base stats, it's actual stats, or their nature? http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/apricorns.shtml [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 16:38, 16 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Compé? ==<br /> <br /> Why on the Earth is &quot;Compe Ball&quot; spell as &quot;Compé&quot;? That makes no sense. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 13:51, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :And why is it called Compe or Compé anyway? It's Park Ball. Anyone who played GSC knows that. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] &lt;small&gt;[[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]]&lt;/small&gt; 16:05, 24 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Thing is, that's how it was in GSC. They changed the name of the Park Ball in HGSS to the &quot;Compe Ball&quot; as to avoid confusion with the ball used in Pal Park. I don't see why we can't add some alt-text saying &quot;Park Ball in Generation II&quot;, though... →''[[User:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B16ABB;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;'''T'''&lt;/u&gt;inā&lt;/span&gt;]]'' &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B16ABB;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B16ABB;&quot;&gt;★&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 16:25, 24 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Good idea, Tina. I've done that. And if anyone else is really confused about the naming like I was (although it may seem obvious), it's the '''compe'''tition ball :D &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 07:06, 25 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> : A Poké Ball for the Bug-Catching Compe-tition? --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 01:45, 21 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Master Ball locations section ==<br /> <br /> Uh...shouldn't we use a new template for the '''List of Master Ball locations in the games''' section of this page?<br /> <br /> Since, you know, it looks kinda bland compared to the rest of the lists, which use the new ones...thoughts about this? --[[User:InfinityByZero|InfinityByZero]] 23:05, 20 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Master Ball Should Have Own Page==<br /> <br /> Maybe it should have it's own page. Because it is way more important than a Poke Ball. Or maybe all the balls should have their own page, the exception being the Gen II balls, which should have a collective page. I could do this with some help. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 14:35, 3 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Nah. The new item template will make it perfect. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 05:17, 14 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Three days ==<br /> <br /> I should finish it tomorrow, though.　Major major major edit. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 10:02, 14 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The Safari and Park Balls ==<br /> <br /> So I'm a bit confused here. In every generation there have been Safari Balls or Park Balls, yet we only have three images for Safari/Park Balls and no mention of their different appearances. There should exist:<br /> Gen. 1: Safari Balls (no sprites exist but should have official artwork);<br /> Gen. 2: Park Balls (GSC);<br /> Gen. 3: Safari Balls (for Emerald and FRLG);<br /> Gen. 4: Park Balls (DPP)*, Safari Balls (DP&amp;P)*, Compé Balls (HGSS)*, plus possibly HGSS Safari Balls. (*We have these.)<br /> I'd personally like to see a note on the page mentioning that there have been several different forms for Safari Ball, with pics if possible. (I seem to remember that Gen. 1 Safari Balls were green with a black &quot;S&quot; on them and that Gen. 3 had spikey orange designs on lime green.)<br /> Also, this might help when looking for refs... and inconsistencies: http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Safari_ball_issues.jpg<br /> [[User:Norle|Norle]]<br /> :Um... we don't need Gen I ones, because it's stricly game sprites only. I have emerald, but need help getting screenshots. I COULD ALSO PROVE THE CELEBI GLITCH WITH SCREENSHOTS! [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:25, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Norle has some very good points. Unfortunently this is the Pokémon fandom, where good points are ignored and wild speculation is ripe. These variations on the Safari Balls sound interesting. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 15:01, 3 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Lucian's Comments ==<br /> <br /> Well I was playing my Pokemon Platinum game one day and I saw Lucian in the Canalave Library, which surprised me. He told me that Pokemon instinctively curl into a ball to recuperate and that is why they'll be caught by a Pokeball. Unfortunately, I don't have his exact words. This event happened on a Thursday between 5 and 6pm and I had already beaten the Elite Four once. I didn't see anything about what he said on the Pokeball page and I didn't know if anyone else here has gotten to talk to Lucian at the library. It was interesting information but I didn't know if that should be added to the page or not. {{unsigned|Kitty}}<br /> :Lucian appears at the library after beating the E4. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 20:51, 6 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Fiore ==<br /> <br /> Someone should add the fact that there are no Poke Balls in Fiore. Maybe in Almia, too, but I don't know for sure whether Poke Balls are used there. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] &lt;sup&gt;([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:54, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Moon Ball? ==<br /> Does this ball give the multiplier for just Nidorina, Nidorino, Jigglypuff, Clefairy, and Skitty, or to everyone in their respective families? Also, does it even give the multiplier to Skitty?--[[User:Bulbafreak9000|Bulbafreak9000]] 04:30, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Skitty evolves with the Moon Stone, so yes. It's not available in the wild, though, so the only way to ''legitimately'' get that bonus is to have a Ditto transform into one. And personally I always wondered if it gave the multiplier to the whole family... Doubt it in Gen II, stuff was primitive then, but in IV, I'd imagine so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#80964B&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C4E673&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 20:48, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Premier Ball sell price ==<br /> As far as I can tell, Premier Balls sell for 100, not 500. (Checked in my copies of Sapphire and Platinum.) [[User:Glass Coyote|Glass Coyote]] 00:19, 15 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I'll change it when it's unprotected. Or an admin might change it. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 04:43, 15 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == g template ==<br /> <br /> We have a few of them floating around on this page. Colosseum and XD under &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9_Ball#Pok.C3.A9_Ball_accuracy here]&lt;/span&gt; and Snap under &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9_Ball#In_the_games here]&lt;/span&gt;. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 19:35, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :''Those'' G's are supposed to be there. We don't frown upon that template's usage when it's used for the names of video games--in fact, that's the intended purpose of the template. It's the &quot;lazy&quot; usages, those that aren't names of video games, that we frown upon--simply put, anything that read stuff such as &lt;nowiki&gt;{{g|anime}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;, &lt;nowiki&gt;{{g|Center}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;, &lt;nowiki&gt;{{g|Sunday}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;, &lt;nowiki&gt;{{g|Special}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; (this was before the big to-Adventures move that happened early November 2009), and the like were bound to get relinked. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:45, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Oooh, ok. That makes sense, although I'm pretty sure this is the only page that has them still on it. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 05:10, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::[[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:G|Not even close]]. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#ED9121&quot;&gt;electAbuzz&lt;/span&gt;''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#ED9121&quot;&gt;z&lt;/span&gt;''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#ED9121&quot;&gt;z&lt;/span&gt;''']] 12:31, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Well then search was being a butt yesterday. .___. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 19:06, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Pikachu==<br /> '''Even Ash's Pikachu, the most prominent Pokémon in the anime which spends all its time outside with Ash, has a plain Poké Ball that differs from others only by the small yellow lightning bolt symbol on it, as seen in Pokémon - I Choose You!.'''<br /> <br /> I don't think this is even relevant - and it isn't proven that that Poké Ball is the Poké Ball Ash carries around, since Bulbasaur, Charmander, and Gary's Blastoise left their Poké Balls (which had Japanese writing on them a few times I've seen it, although they may have retconned it because I think I also saw an episode without it) on that podium in Oak's Lab. Also Gary's Blastoise is now held in a regular Poké Ball as seen when he battles Ash at the end of the Master Quest series.<br /> <br /> I hope we're allowed to put up YouTube links in talk pages, but just to show you, here is EP001 where in the shot of the glass case opening, it shows on the empty Poké Balls of Bulbasaur, Charmander and Squirtle that there is writing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMNw7cPDYv8<br /> <br /> Anyway, my point is that we shouldn't take it for face value that Ash uses that lightning-bolt marked Poké Ball, and also to ask if someone who is able can delete that comment in the beginning of the Anime section. Thank you! :D [[User:Lucadan|&lt;font style=&quot;color:#1874CD;&quot;&gt;'''''Lucadan'''''&lt;/font&gt;]] [[User talk:Lucadan|&lt;sup style=&quot;color:#003F87;&quot;&gt;'''''(Talk)'''''&lt;/sup&gt;]] 21:23, 28 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New data from DFC ==<br /> <br /> Apparently a user from the [http://www.dragonflycave.com/pokesite.aspx Cave of Dragonflies] hacked into the assembly data and decoded it (?? I don't know how that works, but whatever) and found that the actual [http://www.dragonflycave.com/capture.aspx catch rates] for some Balls (Dusk, Quick, Nest, Timer) are different to what the fandom has been parroting around. I've updated Dusk and Quick to match, but I've no idea how to fix the Nest and Timer catch rates. [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 02:57, 4 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Updated HG/SS Apricorn ball data has also been added there and I have edited the page to match; however, some sort of consensus must be reached on how to show the Nest and Timer Ball catch rates before they can be corrected, since they clearly can't be done the current way. --[[User:Dragonfree|Dragonfree]] 06:28, 5 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::The timer ball catch rates are correct according to the website, &quot;int(number of turns passed in battle + 10) / 10, maximum 4&quot;, using this you get the same catch rates described in this article when you mess about with number of turns in battle. Bear in mind &quot;int&quot; takes off the stuff after the decimal point from the number. So for example after 27 turns the calculation is int(27+10)/10 = 3.7 - take the point .7 and you're left with 3 - Just as the article says, you can try with other amounts of turns and it doesn't contradict what the article says. <br /> ::The nest ball is a bit of a problem though, &quot;int(40 - Pokémon's level) / 10&quot;, the article says for pokemon under 19 it's x3 - but (40-19)/10 = 2.1 - int(2.1) is 2... The article also says that between and 20 29 it's x2, but int((40-25)/10) =1 This would imply that when the level is 10 and under it's x3, between 11 and 20 x2, and 21 and over x1 [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 01:17, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::No; it can take on decimal values. Note that the division by 10 is not inside the parentheses. (...which means the int() is actually redundant since what's inside the parentheses is always an integer anyway; it was just a leftover from the old formulas and I just removed it.)<br /> <br /> == Love Ball and non/neutral-gender pokemon? ==<br /> <br /> so apparently [[Mew]] learns [[Attract]] at some level and it only works on other non-gender pokemon, would the same kind of thing apply where you have a non-gender pokemon out and use a love ball on another non-gender pokemon? --[[User:Shadofrak|Shadofrak]] 00:47, 14 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Mew can learn attract by TM45. It always fails. Now use the link templates. {{p|Mew}}, {{m|Attract}}. As for Love Balls, 1× catch rate. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:50, 14 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::This trivia suggests otherwise, so one of us (as in Bulbapedia members) is wrong. &quot;Mew is the only genderless Pokémon able to learn Attract and Captivate; however, when used by Mew, they will fail ''unless'' the opposing Pokémon is also genderless.&quot;<br /> <br /> == Variants in Electric Tale/Dengeki Pikachu ==<br /> <br /> Though the article claims that there are no ball variants in this series, two of then have been seen (one original to the series, and one based on the games) in the chapter when Ash/Satoshi fought the Haunter to avenge Sabrina who fell victim to it:<br /> <br /> The first one shown is the giant Poké Ball intended to capture the giant Haunter, first suggested by Ash (along the lines of &quot;It's a giant Pokémon, right? So we need a giant Poké Ball to capture it!&quot;). In the same chapter, he attempted to capture the weakened Haunter using a Hyper (Ultra) Ball, only to lose it when the Haunter self-destructed before the ball hit it. [[User:HechEff|HechEff]] 15:27, 28 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Net Ball x6 on wild Surskit?==<br /> Bringing up the topic of Net Ball, which works 3x on Water and Bug types, and Surskit fits such description... [[User:Dry Bones|&lt;font color=&quot;#191970&quot; face=&quot;Mistral&quot;&gt;DB&lt;/font&gt;]] 21:52, 19 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> :If anything, it would be x9, as it would be x1, then x3, and multiplying that again with 3, is x9. [[User:Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#CD7F32&quot;&gt;Turtwig's&lt;/font&gt;]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF7F00&quot;&gt;A-B-Cs&lt;/font&gt;]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#green&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/font&gt;]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#yellow&quot;&gt;contribs&lt;/font&gt;]]) 22:32, 19 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::No. It only does x3. Like the Dusk Ball triggers its higher catch rate if used in a cave OR at night, the Net Ball triggers if used on a Bug type OR a Water type. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:04, 20 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Green Poke Ball ==<br /> <br /> In the first episode, in the tournament, a trainer sends out an Onix in a green Poke Ball. Should I add that? {{unsigned|LoadOfMentos}}<br /> :I could've sworn that was already in the article... anyways, yeah, go for it. Add it to the &quot;in the anime&quot; section. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#006400&quot;&gt;'''Zesty'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3CB371&quot;&gt;'''Cactus'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 15:40, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::At one point in time I am sure it was already in there, it is my fav one. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 21:55, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Gen II balls in Gen V? ==<br /> Wait a minute... why is the only way to get gen II balls in gen V through hacking? Why not trading? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 21:55, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Because 1. Pokemon can't hold items when transfered from Gen IV to Gen V, and 2. The Gen II balls can't be held, to prevent trading to DPP – [[Water (type)|&lt;font color=&quot;Navy&quot;&gt;Water&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[Hydro Cannon (move)|&lt;font color=&quot;Blue&quot;&gt;User&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; &lt;small&gt;&lt;sub&gt;([[user:WaterUser|page]], [[User talk:WaterUser|talk]])&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/small&gt; 22:34, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Ah I see, k thanks, can't wait til April when I can get it [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 01:54, 30 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Mistake in the Trivia section ==<br /> <br /> In the trivia section it says that in all other languages the names of the poké balls are always related to the term &quot;ball&quot;, but it's not true: in italian, infact, even though the name of the item in the videogames is poké ball, they're also called &quot;sfere poké&quot; (poké spheres). This second name is so widespread that it is used even in the opening theme of the first season's anime. Since I'm not an expert in the site's guidelines, I didn't change the section because I'm not sure whether or not this can be added to the page. Can anybody who is a little bit more experienced than me do this correction, if it's a proper one??? --[[User:Melograno|Melograno]] 14:15, 30 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :You are welcome to remove any information that is factually incorrect :) I've got this one. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 18:47, 30 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::So is it that there are just two interchangeable names, or is there a distinction between the individual item and the group of items? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:05, 2 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Premier Ball ==<br /> <br /> Just asking; is there really any point to the premier ball other than to remember an event of some sort? - [[User:PikaThunder|PikaThunder]] • [[User Talk:PikaThunder|PT's Talk]] - 21:51, 4 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :It looks different than a regular Poké Ball. That's it. Players can use it for whatever they want. For instance, on my HeartGold Version, I tried to catch all event Pokémon (for example, Sudowoodo and Shiny Gyarados) in Premier Balls. So the point of them is whatever you make of it. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&lt;sup&gt;P&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;K&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;M&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;N&lt;/sub&gt;]] 01:26, 5 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Oh, okay. Thanks! - [[User:PikaThunder|PikaThunder]] • [[User Talk:PikaThunder|PT's Talk]] - 10:25, 5 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sport Ball ==<br /> <br /> Click the show button on the Sport Ball section and you'll know what I mean. — [[File:Ani644MS.png]][[User:Zekasaur|&lt;span style=&quot;color:Black&quot;&gt;Ze&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Zekasaur|&lt;span style=&quot;color:Green&quot;&gt;kas&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|&lt;span style=&quot;color:Red&quot;&gt;aur&lt;/span&gt;]][[File:Ani001MS.png]] 06:14, 6 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I see nothing? Could you elaborate? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 11:49, 7 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Yeah, there is nothing wrong. Or is it your computer maybe? - [[User:PikaThunder|PikaThunder]] • [[User Talk:PikaThunder|PT's Talk]] - 22:02, 11 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == BLUE pokeball ==<br /> <br /> I've seen Ethan's Gold and Silver artwork and, surprise, he has a blue pokeball in his belt. Worth noting? --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 21:36, 28 November 2010 (UTC)</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pok%C3%A9_Ball/Archive_1&diff=1270525 2010-11-28T21:36:19Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* BLUE pokeball */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>==Fast Ball==<br /> Just wondering where Abra and Phanpy are coming from, as [http://pokefor.greenchu.de/meowth346/gbc/poke-balls/ Pokémon Forever states] &quot;If the wild Pokémon is Magnemite, Grimer, Tangela, Mr.Mime, Eevee, Porygon, Dratini, or Dragonair, then Catch Rate = Catch Rate * 4.0. Please note that while these Pokémon have a greater chance to catch, not all of them can be found in the wild.&quot;<br /> [[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 09:53, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'm curious, too. I see various sites that say things like &quot;Pokemon who can run away, like Teddiursa, Tangela, or Raikou&quot;, but the game stores a list of Pokemon whom the ball works better on, and that's what I used on PokéFor. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]] 21:09, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> In that case, somebody remove the two offending, untrue Pogeys?<br /> <br /> And Abra really shouldn't be on that list, as it uses Teleport; it doesn't actually run away... [[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 21:45, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)<br /> Teleport counts, though. The quick ball worked on Abra.[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 20:17, 12 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Should Anime-only Balls be included in this? I'm thinking of the Dark Balls and whatever it was that Sammy used from movie 4--BJG<br /> <br /> There was the Dark Ball and the GS Ball. That's all there have been. I think they would make a useful addition, though. [[User:Fabu-Vinny|Fabu-Vinny]] 19:22, 23 May 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==TCG sections==<br /> Shouldn't the page give hyper links to all of the Poké Balls featured in the cards? [[User:Mr. bell|Mr. Bell]] 08:49, 15 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hyper Ball in manga ==<br /> <br /> Do you think it's worth mentioning in the &quot;in the manga&quot; section about the existance of the Hyper Ball? Ash attempts to use it in the EToP manga at the end of issue 4, and is apparently very expensive. [[User:Fsilone|Fsilone]] 02:48, 21 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Isn't the Hyper Ball just the Japanese name of the Ultra Ball? &lt;span style=&quot;background:#FF9030&quot;&gt;'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|155|Fire echy}}&lt;span style=&quot;background:#664444&quot;&gt;[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD700&quot;&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E0E0E0&quot;&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;DS!&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;/span&gt; 03:00, 21 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::...yeah. It is. And it's rather expensive, too... [[User:Tina|Tina]]&lt;sup&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 03:03, 21 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Happiness Balls ==<br /> <br /> Shouldn't there be a note about the increased Happiness rating that Luxury Balls and Friend Balls produce on captured Pokemon? Or is that just a myth that has no bearing on the game data?<br /> :This is a good question, how come it wasn't answered? [[User:Felinoel|Felinoel]] 21:45, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Main Picture ==<br /> <br /> Is an SSBM trophy really appropriate for the main picture on this article? I think it should be a plain Pokéball without the trophy base at the bottom - [[User:MTC|MTC]]<br /> <br /> I think it looks a lot better, just a sharper image if you know what I mean. And it doesn't matter the source, a Poké Ball is a Poké Ball. [[User:Evkl|evkl]] 19:25, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I think the Same as MTC. It could be the picture of a Poké ball that is in the first opening possibly. [[user:David aipom|David aipom]]<br /> <br /> As long as the picture illustrates on how the ball looks like in the anime and games (which it does), the it is acceptable. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 18:17, 22 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Team Rocket Balls... ==<br /> <br /> I clearly remember seeing black balls thrown by the head of Team Rocket in &amp;quot;Mewtwo's Return&amp;quot; feature length episode. Now it's a bit sad since I juest returned the darn video to the rental store and check on this which I saw just moments ago! From my poor memeory I think they were just black pokeballs with the typicial Team Rocket red R instead of red dot.<br /> <br /> They were used to capture the running pokemon (Meoth, Pikachu and the cloned pokemons), though Mewtwo used it's psychich powers to release them, making them somewhat uninteresting...<br /> <br /> Actually, I think you're thinking of the PokéBalls being thrown by the Team Rocket grunts at the herd of Tauros that Mewtwo was lifting with Psychic.[[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 02:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ball Images ==<br /> <br /> The large images are nice, I admit, but perhaps using sprites would make the tables look neater and, by having ones for the Safari, Ultra and Master Balls, more complete? Given time, I could even make modifications of the sprites for the Generation II Balls. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 20:08, 11 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Replacing Images ==<br /> <br /> I don't think that the current images for Hoenn Balls and Poke and Great Ball are nice. I think they're ugly imitations of Sugimori Artwork. I have a Sugimori Artworks for almost all PokeBalls (the Johto ones are bad-qualited, though) and I think they're much better. I think we should replace the current images with the Sugimori's ones.<br /> :I dunno, I don't think the current ones look bad at all - just big, given how much they stretch the rows of the table. And how bad quality are you talking for the Johto ones? Call me a sprite fanatic, but I think the third generation item sprites would look best in the tables. The second generation ones would be missing, but, as I said, I could make some custom ones. Also, I'm not particularly fond of the anime Pokéball image, since it's so heavily pixelated... --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 01:36, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Actually... now that I think of it, perhaps both of our concerns can be dealt with more easily than I thought. Hold on just a little bit... --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 18:50, 20 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == One big vs. many small ==<br /> I've been talking with TTE. The idea of breaking some of the meat of this article up still bugs me on some level, but... well, might as well bring the idea to everyone.<br /> <br /> The idea, basically, is to start having articles for groups of items as well as individual. This one, for example, would be moved to &quot;Ball&quot;, and the lower section would link to the different articles on individual item types. If we do this for this one, we do it for all item groups...<br /> <br /> Thoughts? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] &lt;sup&gt;~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 02:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I think it'd be a good idea. After all, we have separate articles for every berry, why shouldn't we for Poké Balls and held items as well? Then, we could categorize them better, without having a gigantic page (which is what the page on [[held items]] is quickly becoming...).<br /> <br /> :C'mon, anyone else? --'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 21:55, 17 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Ooh, just had an idea. How about dividing the page into individual sections for each type of ball, going into detail about its catch rate, where it's able to be purchased, and so on? --'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 15:59, 14 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Thats a GREAT idea. We could have another template for all the balls. --[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad]] [[User talk:Usyflad10|&lt;font color=&quot;#42528C &quot;&gt;10&lt;/font&gt;''']] 23:21, 4 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Green Pokeball ==<br /> <br /> I uploaded this image i took from the first pokemon episode, but i cant get the sizeing right...Someone should take a look and stick it in the Anime section --[[User:Britannia's Blade|Britannia&amp;#39;s Blade]] 19:33, 23 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Handled. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] &lt;sup&gt;~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 19:53, 23 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Dive Ball ==<br /> What is the increase of efficiency for a dive ball when you are capturing a water/bug hybrid?<br /> :That's the Net Ball that raises the multiplier for Water or Bug Pokémon. Dive Ball in Gen III works better on Pokémon underwater, and in Gen IV works better on Pokémon you encounter while Surfing. Anyway, I think it doesn't stack, but I dunno. If it doesn't stack, it's as listed, but if it does, it's 9x. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 00:19, 21 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Does the Dive Ball really have an increased effect while Surfing in D/P? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 02:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::I Belive it does. It's text says so. I don't know the rate though.<br /> <br /> == Sir Aaron's Staff and the passage of time within the ball. ==<br /> <br /> Should Sir Aaron's Staff be considered a pre-pokéball object as well? Also, should it be noted about how time passes for pokémon contained within pokéballs? There have been a few instances where pokémon have spent of years, centuries even, within a pokéball/pokéball like object and not aging or feeling any sort of passage of time.<br /> <br /> I think so, it is a method of capturing a Pokémon. &lt;big&gt;[[Image:Ani137MS.gif]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User:Tesh|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F05030;&quot;&gt;'''TESH'''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;[[Image:Ani233MS.gif]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User Talk:Tesh|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA;&quot;&gt;'''TALK'''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt; [[Image:Ani474MS.gif]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User:Tesh/Other|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#EEC226;&quot;&gt;'''FUN'''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/big&gt; 16:41, 15 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> This is my fist post (or edit, I'm new)<br /> The passage of time seems to vary between pokéball and pokéball like objects, when in pokéballs, pokémon seem to be conscious (as trainers give commands before releasing them) but don't physically age, but in some other pokéball like object, time passes as if there sleeping while there in the object. amaster6000 11:12, 17 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :There is obviously very little passage of time in Aaron's staff; long enough for Lucario to stew in his rage, but quick enough apparently for him to still be blind. Also remember that most of those centuries-old Pokémon are usually special specimens--often a Psychic-type or something like [[Lokoko]].--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] &lt;small&gt;•&lt;/small&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 14:58, 17 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Lv 2 wurmple breaks master ball ==<br /> <br /> i know the copy is hacked, but how did this happen &lt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqw7bL2HK3E&amp;feature=related&gt;<br /> its supposed that a master ball never breaks<br /> :That's a Great Ball. Dur. {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;n&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe &lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7BBD;&quot;&gt;δ&lt;/span&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|282}}&lt;/sup&gt; 19:56, 15 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Gen IV Park Ball ==<br /> Are the links to the Gen II games really necessary? I know that some people have been using it's resemblance to the GS Ball to support the idea of a Gen IV remake of Gold and Silver, but without an actual statement from Nintendo or Game Freak, should we really make it seem like such speculation is factual? --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 13:25, 25 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> == Hey, look what I found! ==<br /> Hey, I was surfing through Youtube the other day, and look what I found! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAfAKDFPw0o There's a planet in the &quot;Bouy Base Galaxy&quot; in Super Mario Galaxy that looks like a Poké Ball! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7F00&quot;&gt;Theryguy&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 00:33, 1 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The videos been removed :( But i found a new link http://youtube.com/watch?v=MweOaEzAesw [[user:David aipom|David aipom]]<br /> <br /> == Jelly Donuts? ==<br /> Umm, in the anime section of the article, someone links to a Rice Ball as a Jelly Donut. I don't think it should be referred to as this, regardless of what 4Kids calls it. [[User:Shonen Jump Master|Shonen Jump Master]] 15:45, 23 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ball capsulses ==<br /> <br /> Should we mention ball capsules in this article?[[User:Darkmaster0|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#BBBBBB;&quot;&gt;Darkmaster&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Darkmaster0|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#AAAAAA;&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt;]]15:48, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Not really, they are not significant to the pokeball at all[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;'''C '''&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;'''Is'''&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;'''for Cookie'''&lt;/span&gt;]]<br /> ::What do you mean they have nothing to do with the Poké Ball? I think they should be mentioned somewhere in the article. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7F00&quot;&gt;Theryguy&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 22:46, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::Same here, I think so too. With a (brief) list of the Seals, maybe? [[User:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;Tina&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]]{{ani|281}}&lt;/sup&gt; 22:49, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == &quot;You missed the Pokémon!&quot; ==<br /> <br /> I'm not sure where to include this, but it was possible to see ^that message^ when throwing a Pokéball in Generation I. &lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF&quot;&gt;--'''''Posted by'''''&lt;/span&gt; [[User:Deadlymethane|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#7BA05B&quot;&gt;'''''Deadly'''''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Deadlymethane|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#7BA05B&quot;&gt;'''''methane'''''&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;span style=&quot;color:#DA3287&quot;&gt;'''at'''&lt;/span&gt; 21:12, 29 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I remember... Stupid Safari Zone... '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:21, 30 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> I took the liberty of adding it myself. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 13:16, 4 May 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Heavy Ball? ==<br /> <br /> It says that heavy ball is &quot;+20 +30 -10&quot;<br /> What does that mean? +X to the catch rate? or what?<br /> --[[User:MewUser|MewUser]] 17:16, 4 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Heavy Ball added to the catch rate, So a +30 on a catch rate of 3 would make it catch rate 33. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 17:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> From the information given on the page, Snorlax would be the only Gen II pokemon to get the +30 and the +20 would rare as well e.g. Graveler is only 105Kg and HO-OH is only 199Kg [[User:Tzion|Tzion]] 22:35, 18 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == the old ball ==<br /> <br /> did you put in that old ball from pokemon 4 ever the movie. the picture is at http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/90/Old_Poké_Ball_from_Pokémon_4Ever.png/180px-Old_Poké_Ball_from_Pokémon_4Ever.png {{unsigned|Talvin7111}}<br /> &lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;<br /> We need a better quality picture than that, surely? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 00:33, 2 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> :The only image I could find was Wiipedia's: [[:Wikipedia:Image:Old Poké Ball from Pokémon 4Ever.png]]. Isn't there a better screenshot? &lt;font color=&quot;#788878&quot;&gt;→&lt;/font&gt;&amp;nbsp;[[User:C Teng|&lt;font color=&quot;#3366BB&quot;&gt;C&amp;nbsp;Teng&lt;/font&gt;]]&amp;nbsp;[[User talk:C Teng|&lt;font color=&quot;#E32636&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[talk]&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]] 13:10, 30 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::I don't know how to replace an existing image so could someone do it for me? [http://img178.yfrog.com/gal.php?g=48637373.jpg Old Poké_Ball] I took these screenshots from the DVD at 16:9. Click on the image for their full size. [[User:Coololz352|Coololz352]] 00:21, 8 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::The image needs to be uploaded to the archives, then the image can be replaced. Preferably the image would be retaken as a png, rather than a jpg though, as they are better quality (although with the current image I'm sure it can be overlooked). To upload images, go to the archives (in the side bar) and log in with your Bulbapedia username and password, then upload the image, e.g. to ''Sammy's_Old_Poké_Ball.png'' or something similar. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;small&gt;(talk)&lt;/small&gt;]] 06:25, 8 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Poké Ball Images ==<br /> <br /> The larger images for the &quot;Generation II Poké Balls&quot; are not showing up. It is just showing the name of the images. Is this just me?--[[User:Mjr162006|Mjr162006]] 03:47, 24 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br&gt;&lt;small&gt;Yeah, I'm new here.&lt;/small&gt;<br /> :Never mind.I cant see them either[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:##800000;&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/span&gt;]]<br /> <br /> ::It looks like the images were either deleted, or never existed in the first place.--[[User:Mjr162006|Mjr162006]] 04:03, 24 August 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::They were there.I remember seeing them.......A MYSTERY![[User:Darth Cookie Monster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:##800000;&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/span&gt;]]<br /> <br /> ::::It is just a wild guess, but could this have anything to do with the recent upgrade to MediaWiki 1.13.0? Sometimes things can accidentally get lost when the wiki software is updated. I know that has happened more than once at Zelda Wiki.org (my main wiki).--[[User:Mjr162006|Mjr162006]] 04:17, 24 August 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Generation II ==<br /> <br /> Generation II has no Poké Ball sprites?&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Calibri&quot;&gt;~[[User:Pokemaniac102|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#AAAAFF;&quot;&gt;Ποκε&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFAAAA;&quot;&gt;μανιακ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#999999;&quot;&gt;α0β&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt; 17:21, 19 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> *There were no pokéball sprites. [[User:Phocks|Phocks ~ Come dance with me!]] 09:15, 30 October 2008.<br /> <br /> == Origin of the Concept? ==<br /> <br /> &quot;In the series, Ultraseven, when unable to fight (usually because his Ultra Eye has been stolen), Dan will often produce a small capsule that releases a giant-sized monster to fight in his place.&quot;<br /> <br /> Now I'm not sure if this is true or not, but I believe the concept of &quot;Keeping Pokémon inside Pokéballs&quot; originated from Ultraseven. --[[User:Arima|Arima]] 00:52, 13 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> :&quot;Originate&quot; seems to strong a word. Inspired by, possibly. Worth a mention on the page, maybe. State as fact a connection that's at best speculation, unless we hear that Satoshi Tajiri said something in an interview confirming that Ultraseven is where he got the concept...not such a good idea. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 01:48, 13 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::GASP! OR MAYBE ITS INSPIRED BY THE TALE OF GENIES! MYSTICAL BEINGS BEING KEPT IN CONTAINERS AND FORCED TO DO BATTLE WITH EACH OTHER.<br /> :::Dont put that nonsense on the page. Their are so many other references its not worth it--[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;Shut the **** up&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Spy on My Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> ::::Genies don't even battle. They grant wishes. Besides, that sounds ridiculous.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:51, 10 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::Exactly why he said don't put that stuff in there. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 04:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == About the Master Ball... ==<br /> Should we include the locations of the master balls from games? Or is that off-topic. And if yes, where shall we put it? --[[User:Metagross72|Metagross72]] 04:45, 2 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Thats a valid point, but no, that would seem like overkill[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;曲奇饼妖怪&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Spy on My Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> ::I Think that this article should tell about the locations of the Poké Ball kinds, or at least where to buy them because I'm getting agravated from having to run all over Sinnoh just to buy a Dusk Ball. [[User:Dolphin2|Dolphins_are_awesome!]] 16:45, 20 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::No. We are an encyclopedia, not a strategy guide.[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;曲奇饼妖怪&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Spy on My Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ::::I know! I'll make a page called Locations of Master Balls! I got this idea from [[Locations of TMs]]. I'll do that right now! --[[User:Metagross72|Metagross72]] 23:58, 28 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::: That'll get everyone getting Masterballs, But no, we don't need another article which is highly likely to get deleted in less then 0.11111111111111111111 seconds.--[[User:Force Fire|&lt;font color=&quot;FF7777&quot;&gt;FF&lt;/font&gt;]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|&lt;font color=&quot;7777FF&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;edits&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]]-[[User talk:Force Fire|&lt;font color=&quot;28E228&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;talk&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]]) 00:12, 29 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Maybe Locations of limited availibilty Poké Balls? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|¿Nos hablamos?]] 00:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Such as? [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 04:34, 30 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Reviving something old here, but really. The Master Ball is an important part of the game, just because we list where you can obtain one doesn't make us a &quot;strategy guide&quot;, in my opinion it makes us more like an encyclopedia as an encyclopedia tries to have '''all''' the information on something, including the locations of things. Making a new article is taking it a little too far, but if it hasn't been done already (and I skimmed through the article and it seems to not have been done) we should list the locations of the Master Balls. That and a lot of people are probably going to want to know where too find them. [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 21:28, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I agree with that. In Kanto it was a gift from the Silph president, Johto I don't know because I never bought the games, Hoenn in the Aqua/Magma hideout in R/S and then Aqua hideout in E, and then Cyrus gives it to you in D/P/Pt. Unless that's only in Pt. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 21:54, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::Elm gives you the Master Ball in GSC. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 22:01, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::And now someone just needs to figure out a neat (as in, tidy) was of adding the information onto the article... I recommend in a table/box kinda thing, I'd do it myself but I'm both busy, and I have no idea how too. xD Sorry I'm not much help. [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 22:25, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::::How about this?<br /> {| {{bluetable2|c sortable}} align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #ccf;&quot;<br /> ! Generation<br /> ! Game(s)<br /> ! Location<br /> ! Requirements<br /> ! Notes<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation I|I]]<br /> | {{game|Green}}, {{2v|Red|Blue}}, {{game|Yellow}}<br /> | [[Silph Co.]] <br /> | Talk to the president after defeating [[Giovanni]].<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation II|II]]<br /> | {{3v|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}<br /> | [[Professor Elm]]'s laboratory<br /> | Talk to Professor Elm after earning all eight badges.<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation II|II]]<br /> | {{3v|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}<br /> | [[Johto Radio Tower]]<br /> | Match all 5 numbers in the [[Lucky Number Show]].<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation III|III]]<br /> | {{game|Ruby}} <br /> | [[Magma Hideout]], [[Maxie]]'s office <br /> | None<br /> | Entrance is blocked off after battling {{p|Groudon}}.<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation III|III]]<br /> | {{game|Sapphire}}, {{game|Emerald}} <br /> | [[Aqua Hideout]], [[Archie]]'s office <br /> | None<br /> | Entrance is blocked off after battling {{p|Kyogre}}. (Sapphire only)<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation III|III]]<br /> | {{3v|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}<br /> | [[Lilycove Department Store]] <br /> | Defeat your rival in front of the store, match all 5 numbers in the lottery.<br /> | <br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation III|III]]<br /> | {{g|Colosseum}}<br /> | [[Agate Village]] <br /> | Recieve incomplete email from [[Eagun]] in [[Realgam Tower]]<br /> | Eagun's email is cut off before it can mention the Master Ball.<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation III|III]]<br /> | {{g|XD}} <br /> | [[Pokémon HQ Lab]] <br /> | Talk to [[Professor Krane]] before heading to [[Citadark Isle]]<br /> | <br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation III|III]]<br /> | {{2v|FireRed|LeafGreen}}<br /> | [[Silph Co.]] <br /> | Talk to the president after defeating [[Giovanni]]<br /> | <br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation IV|IV]]<br /> | {{3v|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}<br /> | [[Galactic Veilstone Building]] <br /> | Defeat [[Cyrus]]<br /> | <br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation IV|IV]]<br /> | {{3v|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}<br /> | [[Jubilife TV]] <br /> | Earn the {{badge|Coal}}, defeat the [[Galactic Grunt]]s near the northern exit of [[Jubilife City]], match all 5 numbers in the lottery.<br /> | <br /> |-<br /> &lt;!--| [[Generation IV|IV]]<br /> | {{2v|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}<br /> | [[Professor Elm]]'s laboratory <br /> | Talk to Professor Elm after earning all eight badges.<br /> | Probably not a good idea to reveal this bit until after the games are released, eh?<br /> |- --&gt;<br /> |}<br /> <br /> Is this any good? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] &lt;small&gt;[[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]]&lt;/small&gt; 23:07, 9 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah I think that looks pretty good. :D Anyone have any objections? [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 23:57, 9 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::If there are no objections, and I don't think there are any, I'll just go ahead and put this on the page now. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] &lt;small&gt;[[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]]&lt;/small&gt; 00:41, 10 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::It doesn't really look like it fits at its current place. Maybe would could make a page exclusive to masterballs as we could do some in the anime stuff and put this table there... we could also add screenshots of where the masterballs are found. Additionally the table isn't quite consistent as it says after battling Kyogre (Sapphire only) it should also say after battling Groudon (Ruby only). Otherwise, everything is great. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 00:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::The (Sapphire only) part is because Sapphire&amp;Emerald have the Aqua hideout. It's only blocked in Sapphire, not Emerald. That's why it's there. As for the chart, if it could be made a bit smaller and collapsible, or at least smaller, then it would be a bit better. And if it can't be made smaller, then collapsible would probably be fine. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 14:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::Making it collapsible is a better option than making a whole page dedicated too the Master Balls I guess. [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 14:33, 10 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::It's way better than a separate page, because then we'd have to make one for every single Poké Ball. The only real significance between it and the others is that it never fails, and there's only one per game unless you get extremely lucky at the lottery. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 14:38, 10 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Yeah, I mean, I'm actually neutral too the idea of a separate page for the Master Balls, as in my opinion there's kinda important, but meh. [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 14:57, 10 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Opponent's only keep Pokémon in Poké Balls? ==<br /> <br /> &quot;In the games, all opponents keep their Pokémon in Poké Balls. The reason for this is unknown.&quot;<br /> <br /> Whoever put this up, what is this supposed to mean? If you mean they always keep them in Balls, then it's false, because there are countless trainers in-game that let their Pokémon wander around, and in Colosseum and XD you can even battle them, but they'll go back into their Ball pre-battle.<br /> <br /> I interpreted as the type of Ball, since it's true all opponents keep them in Poké Balls, not Ultra Balls or whatever, but since there's contention, I think some real clarification would be nice. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:39, 27 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I sure of seen some other ball somewhere, but thats besides the point. I interpreted it as in the case of Ash's Pikachu, not being in the pokeball, but battling in the anime, while the jigglypuff in yellow version and a machop in gold couldnt battle, but you could see the walking around[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;曲奇饼妖怪&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Spy on My Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> ::Then it's not true that all opponents keep their Pokémon in their Balls. Best example is the Shadow Lugia in XD, who was definitely not kept in a Ball.[[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:46, 27 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::Did an opponent use it? Was it ever &quot;captured&quot; in anyway?[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;曲奇饼妖怪&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Spy on My Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> ::::Yes, Greevil clearly commanded it to attack and it did, not to mention you had to use a Snag Ball to catch it, not a regular Ball like the wild Pokémon. There are other examples in that game. In Phenac, a Peon is talking to his Absol before you battle him, and he uses the Absol in battle. In Agate Village, there is an old woman standing with a Mightyena and if you choose to battle her, she uses the Mightyena. Eagun also keeps his Pikachu out but still uses it to battle. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:55, 27 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Non main game but ok. Im gonna go locate that trainer with the safari zone. Keep it the way you have it[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;曲奇饼妖怪&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Spy on My Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt; 04:57, 27 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: You're all missing the point, I think that who first posted this was trying to say that when you battle another trainer they always send out their Pokémon in normal Poké Balls, you know, because I've never seen an in-game opponent sending out any Pokémon in a, say, Master Ball. However, why is this important, I mean, yeah it's true, but I don't think is something we should see in the article, or is it important? I may be wrong.--[[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 18:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Apricorn Balls ==<br /> <br /> There is what looks to be official images of the Apricorn Balls at this photobucket account [http://s280.photobucket.com/albums/kk200/sexton_06/Weapons/] as well as some better quality images of the Hoenn balls here [http://s113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/Sckar_2006/Animes/Pokemon/Pokebolas/?start=0] There is also better quality images of the [http://media.photobucket.com/image/dusk%20ball/CL4M9/DuskBall.png?o=3] Dusk Ball, [http://s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc32/Marcos98/?action=view&amp;current=heal.jpg] Heal Ball and [http://s265.photobucket.com/albums/ii239/CL4M9/?action=view&amp;current=CherishBall.png] Cherish Ball. Just throwing them out there to see if you want to use them. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 13:00, 19 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Question about quick ball and timer ball ==<br /> <br /> What classes as a turn? Is it every one of YOUR turns, or the total amount of turns in battle?<br /> ie<br /> You use false swipe,<br /> Pokemon uses hyper beam,<br /> Would this be counted by the game as 1 turn or 2? --[[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 22:34, 20 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :one turn.--&lt;small&gt;[[Flash Fire (ability)|&lt;font color=&quot;turquoise&quot;&gt;freezing&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;[[Heat Wave (move)|&lt;font color=&quot;teal&quot;&gt;COLD&lt;/font&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;&lt;sub&gt;([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]])&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/small&gt; 22:35, 20 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Dusk Ball ==<br /> <br /> Dusk Ball is in effect while in a forest? I mean... do forests like Eterna activate the ''night'' effect of the Dusk Ball? Or is it in effect at night only? '''[[User:Hfc2x|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#008800&quot;&gt;h&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;fc&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#008800&quot;&gt;X&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 20:05, 23 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Good question. I know it works everywhere at night and in caves 24/7... But in forests? That's a good question. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]].....[[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|IT IS TIME!]] 20:15, 23 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 3D Picture ==<br /> <br /> Don't you think it would be better to have Ken Sugimori's artwork for the Poké Ball instead of that 3D Picture? It's not really official artwork and looks nothing like the balls in the anime! I think if we used Ken Sugimori's artwork it would give people more of a general idea of what Poké Balls actually look like. Just an idea! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 12:09, 25 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Do you have one? --☆'''[[User:Kevzo8|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A2958D&quot;&gt;Ke&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B8B8D0&quot;&gt;vz&lt;/span&gt;]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#705898&quot;&gt;o8&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 12:18, 25 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> Why don't you just use the Pokeball pic from the chart down the page. I believe that it's a Sugimori.--[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad10]] 01:28, 25 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Anime Pokeballs ==<br /> <br /> Half the anime pokeballs are actully just customized pokeballs painted to look unique, namely the Lake Ball, Chansey ball, Green Pokeball and Rocket Ball. The game series also suggest that custom poke balls exist in this manner; when you deliver Oak's Parcel he states it's a custom ordered Poke Ball. By listeing these under the heading &quot;Customized Pokeballs&quot; we can save some space.--[[User:Lego3400|Lego3400]] 23:49, 2 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Rich lady expensive custom ball ==<br /> <br /> I remember a episode where a rich lady gets a custom ball from a jewelry store (like you would get a watch.) I can't remember if the woman had a snubull or if it was that female meowth that inspired TR Meowth to learn to talk. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 21:43, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Probably {{TP|Madame Muchmoney|Snubbull}}. It sounds about right. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 21:51, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::but why is there no mention of these novelty or should i say costume (like fake jewelry) balls? [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 22:34, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::No, no no, Hunter Blade. It was Meowzee (spelling?) the Meowth whose Poké Ball had loads off jewelry on it. If my memory serves right. [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 23:03, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::: I think I'm going just add something about the option of buying custom balls for pets. ^_^;; [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 23:22, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::: Added. geez.... I'd Marry a Wobbufet or become a Mormon and marry Jessie and Jessiebelle before Meowzie's owner. Woman had me pulling a Fred G. Sanford.<br /> <br /> ::::: It seems that the basic outer appearance is the same, just the ball Meowzie's owner bought was diamond studded. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 00:05, 9 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Brock, Ninetales and breaking the ball? ==<br /> <br /> In the last part of the mechanics section it says Brock breaks his ball after releasing Ninetales ? that can't be right, his article says noting about a Ninetales being in his procession and i don't remember him having one or breaking a ball [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 00:58, 9 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> :[[EP232]]. Last paragraph of the synopsis. &amp;mdash; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000C8&quot;&gt;THE TROM&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] &amp;mdash; 01:04, 9 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: It needs rewording, it makes it sound like brock was the one who broke the ball. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 01:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Green Poké Ball ==<br /> <br /> Does Gold's Gold and Silver pic have one, just to mention?--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 23:53, 18 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == TCG ==<br /> <br /> Where's the link to the regular Poké Ball card? Nowhere. Off to link it.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FE2E9A&quot;&gt;''Mew''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;span class=&quot;explain&quot; title=&quot;Prmatt11 or Mew are my ONLY names!&quot;&gt;*&lt;/span&gt; [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' was here at 11:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I agree, they really need to put the Pokémon card!--[[User:The Bulb&amp;#39;s Master|The Bulb&amp;#39;s Master]] 02:06, 3 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Timer Ball... ==<br /> <br /> Does the Timer Ball increase in...<br /> :a) turns after start<br /> :b) turns after last Poké Ball (from start if none)<br /> :c) turns after last Timer Ball (from start if none)<br /> <br /> ...? &lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] ([[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Giratina's_Embodiment|contribs]])'' &lt;/small&gt; 18:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> :After the start of the battle. You can alternatively think of this as 'since the wild Pokémon appeared'. This has been noted in the article. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 20:15, 4 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Johto ball art ==<br /> <br /> YAY<br /> <br /> Okay so how soon can we get that in here? '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 02:55, 10 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == the heavy ball ==<br /> <br /> So the heavy ball takes 30 away from the catch rate if the pokemon is under 100kg, what if a pokemon already has a catch rate lower than 30 and is under 100kg? ie the [[lake trio]] and [[cresselia]], would their catch rate be a negative value? Would it be even possible to catch them in a heavy ball? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 12:10, 11 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Well I managed to get Raikou in a heavy ball which, according to this page, would have meant Raikou had a catch rate of -17 because his weight is lower than 451.5 lbs (it's 392.4 lbs). So it either doesn't take any more off the catch rate when it's 3 or I got very very lucky. [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 00:50, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == safari ball art ==<br /> <br /> in the platinum guidebook, there is a picture of safarai ball. why is the picture of the safari ball here fanmade? -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 09:44, 12 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Because no one's uploaded it. Feel free to tidy it up and upload it yourself. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 09:59, 12 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == HGSS/DPPt? ==<br /> <br /> Since the balls in HG and SS are not programmed into DP and Pt, will trading between the two games be possible if using an apricorn ball? I don't know how they'd make that work. [[User:Dexington|Dexington]] 19:35, 17 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> :No one does at this stage. There are plenty of speculations on the Bulbagarden Forums, if you'd like to discuss this further. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 19:58, 17 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Has this been explored any further yet?--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 22:38, 15 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Gen II balls become Poké Balls. They cannot be held. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 04:18, 16 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::What happens if they are traded back? Does stay a PokéBall, or does it change back to what they were caught in? This sort of thing should go in the page. (Or was it already?)[[User:Poisson14|Poisson14]] 02:56, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::Are you sure? If I try to view a pokemon that was caught in a HGSS-only ball on my pearl cart (via the trade screen), it crashes. Any pokemon in HGSS-only balls also appear as bad eggs in PBR. --[[User:Pyritie|Pyritie]] 11:23, 15 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::HGSS Balls -&gt; plain Poké Balls. Just tested it. I don't have PBR, so I can't test that. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:47, 15 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Hmm, odd... no idea what's causing the problem then. --[[User:Pyritie|Pyritie]] 12:14, 16 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Could be because of a hacking code gone wrong. If you didn't hack, it could be some sort of hardware glitch or someone else might have hacked it (if lent to somebody for some time or bought as a used game). [[User:Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#CD7F32&quot;&gt;Turtwig's&lt;/font&gt;]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF7F00&quot;&gt;A-B-Cs&lt;/font&gt;]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#green&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/font&gt;]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#yellow&quot;&gt;contribs&lt;/font&gt;]]) 00:29, 17 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Possibly trivia ==<br /> <br /> I have noticed in the anime, NO one throws the ball with their left hand ever (Excluding throwing 2 or more balls at the same time) --[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 18:12, 22 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Other manga? ==<br /> <br /> What are Pokeballs like in other manga? I know in D&amp;P Adventures, they're similar to Special's view on Pokeballs. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 00:24, 12 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Fast Ball ==<br /> <br /> according to serebii the fast ball works on pokemon with a &quot;high speed&quot; in HGSS instead of pokemon that flee. The rest look the same as GSC. Does anyone know what/can find out what the threshold for the pokemon's speed is for it work. And is based on a pokemon's base stats, it's actual stats, or their nature? http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/apricorns.shtml [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 16:38, 16 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Compé? ==<br /> <br /> Why on the Earth is &quot;Compe Ball&quot; spell as &quot;Compé&quot;? That makes no sense. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 13:51, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :And why is it called Compe or Compé anyway? It's Park Ball. Anyone who played GSC knows that. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] &lt;small&gt;[[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]]&lt;/small&gt; 16:05, 24 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Thing is, that's how it was in GSC. They changed the name of the Park Ball in HGSS to the &quot;Compe Ball&quot; as to avoid confusion with the ball used in Pal Park. I don't see why we can't add some alt-text saying &quot;Park Ball in Generation II&quot;, though... →''[[User:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B16ABB;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;'''T'''&lt;/u&gt;inā&lt;/span&gt;]]'' &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B16ABB;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B16ABB;&quot;&gt;★&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 16:25, 24 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Good idea, Tina. I've done that. And if anyone else is really confused about the naming like I was (although it may seem obvious), it's the '''compe'''tition ball :D &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 07:06, 25 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> : A Poké Ball for the Bug-Catching Compe-tition? --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 01:45, 21 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Master Ball locations section ==<br /> <br /> Uh...shouldn't we use a new template for the '''List of Master Ball locations in the games''' section of this page?<br /> <br /> Since, you know, it looks kinda bland compared to the rest of the lists, which use the new ones...thoughts about this? --[[User:InfinityByZero|InfinityByZero]] 23:05, 20 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Master Ball Should Have Own Page==<br /> <br /> Maybe it should have it's own page. Because it is way more important than a Poke Ball. Or maybe all the balls should have their own page, the exception being the Gen II balls, which should have a collective page. I could do this with some help. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 14:35, 3 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Nah. The new item template will make it perfect. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 05:17, 14 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Three days ==<br /> <br /> I should finish it tomorrow, though.　Major major major edit. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 10:02, 14 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The Safari and Park Balls ==<br /> <br /> So I'm a bit confused here. In every generation there have been Safari Balls or Park Balls, yet we only have three images for Safari/Park Balls and no mention of their different appearances. There should exist:<br /> Gen. 1: Safari Balls (no sprites exist but should have official artwork);<br /> Gen. 2: Park Balls (GSC);<br /> Gen. 3: Safari Balls (for Emerald and FRLG);<br /> Gen. 4: Park Balls (DPP)*, Safari Balls (DP&amp;P)*, Compé Balls (HGSS)*, plus possibly HGSS Safari Balls. (*We have these.)<br /> I'd personally like to see a note on the page mentioning that there have been several different forms for Safari Ball, with pics if possible. (I seem to remember that Gen. 1 Safari Balls were green with a black &quot;S&quot; on them and that Gen. 3 had spikey orange designs on lime green.)<br /> Also, this might help when looking for refs... and inconsistencies: http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Safari_ball_issues.jpg<br /> [[User:Norle|Norle]]<br /> :Um... we don't need Gen I ones, because it's stricly game sprites only. I have emerald, but need help getting screenshots. I COULD ALSO PROVE THE CELEBI GLITCH WITH SCREENSHOTS! [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:25, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Norle has some very good points. Unfortunently this is the Pokémon fandom, where good points are ignored and wild speculation is ripe. These variations on the Safari Balls sound interesting. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 15:01, 3 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Lucian's Comments ==<br /> <br /> Well I was playing my Pokemon Platinum game one day and I saw Lucian in the Canalave Library, which surprised me. He told me that Pokemon instinctively curl into a ball to recuperate and that is why they'll be caught by a Pokeball. Unfortunately, I don't have his exact words. This event happened on a Thursday between 5 and 6pm and I had already beaten the Elite Four once. I didn't see anything about what he said on the Pokeball page and I didn't know if anyone else here has gotten to talk to Lucian at the library. It was interesting information but I didn't know if that should be added to the page or not. {{unsigned|Kitty}}<br /> :Lucian appears at the library after beating the E4. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 20:51, 6 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Fiore ==<br /> <br /> Someone should add the fact that there are no Poke Balls in Fiore. Maybe in Almia, too, but I don't know for sure whether Poke Balls are used there. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] &lt;sup&gt;([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:54, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Moon Ball? ==<br /> Does this ball give the multiplier for just Nidorina, Nidorino, Jigglypuff, Clefairy, and Skitty, or to everyone in their respective families? Also, does it even give the multiplier to Skitty?--[[User:Bulbafreak9000|Bulbafreak9000]] 04:30, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Skitty evolves with the Moon Stone, so yes. It's not available in the wild, though, so the only way to ''legitimately'' get that bonus is to have a Ditto transform into one. And personally I always wondered if it gave the multiplier to the whole family... Doubt it in Gen II, stuff was primitive then, but in IV, I'd imagine so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#80964B&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C4E673&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 20:48, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Premier Ball sell price ==<br /> As far as I can tell, Premier Balls sell for 100, not 500. (Checked in my copies of Sapphire and Platinum.) [[User:Glass Coyote|Glass Coyote]] 00:19, 15 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I'll change it when it's unprotected. Or an admin might change it. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 04:43, 15 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == g template ==<br /> <br /> We have a few of them floating around on this page. Colosseum and XD under &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9_Ball#Pok.C3.A9_Ball_accuracy here]&lt;/span&gt; and Snap under &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9_Ball#In_the_games here]&lt;/span&gt;. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 19:35, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :''Those'' G's are supposed to be there. We don't frown upon that template's usage when it's used for the names of video games--in fact, that's the intended purpose of the template. It's the &quot;lazy&quot; usages, those that aren't names of video games, that we frown upon--simply put, anything that read stuff such as &lt;nowiki&gt;{{g|anime}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;, &lt;nowiki&gt;{{g|Center}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;, &lt;nowiki&gt;{{g|Sunday}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;, &lt;nowiki&gt;{{g|Special}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; (this was before the big to-Adventures move that happened early November 2009), and the like were bound to get relinked. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:45, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Oooh, ok. That makes sense, although I'm pretty sure this is the only page that has them still on it. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 05:10, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::[[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:G|Not even close]]. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#ED9121&quot;&gt;electAbuzz&lt;/span&gt;''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#ED9121&quot;&gt;z&lt;/span&gt;''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#ED9121&quot;&gt;z&lt;/span&gt;''']] 12:31, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Well then search was being a butt yesterday. .___. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 19:06, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Pikachu==<br /> '''Even Ash's Pikachu, the most prominent Pokémon in the anime which spends all its time outside with Ash, has a plain Poké Ball that differs from others only by the small yellow lightning bolt symbol on it, as seen in Pokémon - I Choose You!.'''<br /> <br /> I don't think this is even relevant - and it isn't proven that that Poké Ball is the Poké Ball Ash carries around, since Bulbasaur, Charmander, and Gary's Blastoise left their Poké Balls (which had Japanese writing on them a few times I've seen it, although they may have retconned it because I think I also saw an episode without it) on that podium in Oak's Lab. Also Gary's Blastoise is now held in a regular Poké Ball as seen when he battles Ash at the end of the Master Quest series.<br /> <br /> I hope we're allowed to put up YouTube links in talk pages, but just to show you, here is EP001 where in the shot of the glass case opening, it shows on the empty Poké Balls of Bulbasaur, Charmander and Squirtle that there is writing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMNw7cPDYv8<br /> <br /> Anyway, my point is that we shouldn't take it for face value that Ash uses that lightning-bolt marked Poké Ball, and also to ask if someone who is able can delete that comment in the beginning of the Anime section. Thank you! :D [[User:Lucadan|&lt;font style=&quot;color:#1874CD;&quot;&gt;'''''Lucadan'''''&lt;/font&gt;]] [[User talk:Lucadan|&lt;sup style=&quot;color:#003F87;&quot;&gt;'''''(Talk)'''''&lt;/sup&gt;]] 21:23, 28 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New data from DFC ==<br /> <br /> Apparently a user from the [http://www.dragonflycave.com/pokesite.aspx Cave of Dragonflies] hacked into the assembly data and decoded it (?? I don't know how that works, but whatever) and found that the actual [http://www.dragonflycave.com/capture.aspx catch rates] for some Balls (Dusk, Quick, Nest, Timer) are different to what the fandom has been parroting around. I've updated Dusk and Quick to match, but I've no idea how to fix the Nest and Timer catch rates. [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 02:57, 4 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Updated HG/SS Apricorn ball data has also been added there and I have edited the page to match; however, some sort of consensus must be reached on how to show the Nest and Timer Ball catch rates before they can be corrected, since they clearly can't be done the current way. --[[User:Dragonfree|Dragonfree]] 06:28, 5 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::The timer ball catch rates are correct according to the website, &quot;int(number of turns passed in battle + 10) / 10, maximum 4&quot;, using this you get the same catch rates described in this article when you mess about with number of turns in battle. Bear in mind &quot;int&quot; takes off the stuff after the decimal point from the number. So for example after 27 turns the calculation is int(27+10)/10 = 3.7 - take the point .7 and you're left with 3 - Just as the article says, you can try with other amounts of turns and it doesn't contradict what the article says. <br /> ::The nest ball is a bit of a problem though, &quot;int(40 - Pokémon's level) / 10&quot;, the article says for pokemon under 19 it's x3 - but (40-19)/10 = 2.1 - int(2.1) is 2... The article also says that between and 20 29 it's x2, but int((40-25)/10) =1 This would imply that when the level is 10 and under it's x3, between 11 and 20 x2, and 21 and over x1 [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 01:17, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::No; it can take on decimal values. Note that the division by 10 is not inside the parentheses. (...which means the int() is actually redundant since what's inside the parentheses is always an integer anyway; it was just a leftover from the old formulas and I just removed it.)<br /> <br /> == Love Ball and non/neutral-gender pokemon? ==<br /> <br /> so apparently [[Mew]] learns [[Attract]] at some level and it only works on other non-gender pokemon, would the same kind of thing apply where you have a non-gender pokemon out and use a love ball on another non-gender pokemon? --[[User:Shadofrak|Shadofrak]] 00:47, 14 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Mew can learn attract by TM45. It always fails. Now use the link templates. {{p|Mew}}, {{m|Attract}}. As for Love Balls, 1× catch rate. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:50, 14 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::This trivia suggests otherwise, so one of us (as in Bulbapedia members) is wrong. &quot;Mew is the only genderless Pokémon able to learn Attract and Captivate; however, when used by Mew, they will fail ''unless'' the opposing Pokémon is also genderless.&quot;<br /> <br /> == Variants in Electric Tale/Dengeki Pikachu ==<br /> <br /> Though the article claims that there are no ball variants in this series, two of then have been seen (one original to the series, and one based on the games) in the chapter when Ash/Satoshi fought the Haunter to avenge Sabrina who fell victim to it:<br /> <br /> The first one shown is the giant Poké Ball intended to capture the giant Haunter, first suggested by Ash (along the lines of &quot;It's a giant Pokémon, right? So we need a giant Poké Ball to capture it!&quot;). In the same chapter, he attempted to capture the weakened Haunter using a Hyper (Ultra) Ball, only to lose it when the Haunter self-destructed before the ball hit it. [[User:HechEff|HechEff]] 15:27, 28 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Net Ball x6 on wild Surskit?==<br /> Bringing up the topic of Net Ball, which works 3x on Water and Bug types, and Surskit fits such description... [[User:Dry Bones|&lt;font color=&quot;#191970&quot; face=&quot;Mistral&quot;&gt;DB&lt;/font&gt;]] 21:52, 19 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> :If anything, it would be x9, as it would be x1, then x3, and multiplying that again with 3, is x9. [[User:Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#CD7F32&quot;&gt;Turtwig's&lt;/font&gt;]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF7F00&quot;&gt;A-B-Cs&lt;/font&gt;]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#green&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/font&gt;]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#yellow&quot;&gt;contribs&lt;/font&gt;]]) 22:32, 19 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::No. It only does x3. Like the Dusk Ball triggers its higher catch rate if used in a cave OR at night, the Net Ball triggers if used on a Bug type OR a Water type. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:04, 20 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Green Poke Ball ==<br /> <br /> In the first episode, in the tournament, a trainer sends out an Onix in a green Poke Ball. Should I add that? {{unsigned|LoadOfMentos}}<br /> :I could've sworn that was already in the article... anyways, yeah, go for it. Add it to the &quot;in the anime&quot; section. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#006400&quot;&gt;'''Zesty'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3CB371&quot;&gt;'''Cactus'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 15:40, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::At one point in time I am sure it was already in there, it is my fav one. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 21:55, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Gen II balls in Gen V? ==<br /> Wait a minute... why is the only way to get gen II balls in gen V through hacking? Why not trading? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 21:55, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Because 1. Pokemon can't hold items when transfered from Gen IV to Gen V, and 2. The Gen II balls can't be held, to prevent trading to DPP – [[Water (type)|&lt;font color=&quot;Navy&quot;&gt;Water&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[Hydro Cannon (move)|&lt;font color=&quot;Blue&quot;&gt;User&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; &lt;small&gt;&lt;sub&gt;([[user:WaterUser|page]], [[User talk:WaterUser|talk]])&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/small&gt; 22:34, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Ah I see, k thanks, can't wait til April when I can get it [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 01:54, 30 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Mistake in the Trivia section ==<br /> <br /> In the trivia section it says that in all other languages the names of the poké balls are always related to the term &quot;ball&quot;, but it's not true: in italian, infact, even though the name of the item in the videogames is poké ball, they're also called &quot;sfere poké&quot; (poké spheres). This second name is so widespread that it is used even in the opening theme of the first season's anime. Since I'm not an expert in the site's guidelines, I didn't change the section because I'm not sure whether or not this can be added to the page. Can anybody who is a little bit more experienced than me do this correction, if it's a proper one??? --[[User:Melograno|Melograno]] 14:15, 30 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :You are welcome to remove any information that is factually incorrect :) I've got this one. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 18:47, 30 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::So is it that there are just two interchangeable names, or is there a distinction between the individual item and the group of items? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:05, 2 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Premier Ball ==<br /> <br /> Just asking; is there really any point to the premier ball other than to remember an event of some sort? - [[User:PikaThunder|PikaThunder]] • [[User Talk:PikaThunder|PT's Talk]] - 21:51, 4 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :It looks different than a regular Poké Ball. That's it. Players can use it for whatever they want. For instance, on my HeartGold Version, I tried to catch all event Pokémon (for example, Sudowoodo and Shiny Gyarados) in Premier Balls. So the point of them is whatever you make of it. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&lt;sup&gt;P&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;K&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;M&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;N&lt;/sub&gt;]] 01:26, 5 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Oh, okay. Thanks! - [[User:PikaThunder|PikaThunder]] • [[User Talk:PikaThunder|PT's Talk]] - 10:25, 5 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sport Ball ==<br /> <br /> Click the show button on the Sport Ball section and you'll know what I mean. — [[File:Ani644MS.png]][[User:Zekasaur|&lt;span style=&quot;color:Black&quot;&gt;Ze&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Zekasaur|&lt;span style=&quot;color:Green&quot;&gt;kas&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|&lt;span style=&quot;color:Red&quot;&gt;aur&lt;/span&gt;]][[File:Ani001MS.png]] 06:14, 6 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I see nothing? Could you elaborate? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 11:49, 7 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Yeah, there is nothing wrong. Or is it your computer maybe? - [[User:PikaThunder|PikaThunder]] • [[User Talk:PikaThunder|PT's Talk]] - 22:02, 11 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == BLUE pokeball ==<br /> <br /> I've seen Ethan's Gold and Silver artwork and, surprise, he has a blue pokeball in his belt. Worth noting? --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 21:36, 28 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == BLUE pokeball ==<br /> <br /> I've seen Ethan's Gold and Silver artwork and, surprise, he has a blue pokeball in his belt. Worth noting? --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 21:36, 28 November 2010 (UTC)</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pok%C3%A9_Ball/Archive_1&diff=1270523 2010-11-28T21:36:04Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* BLUE pokeball */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>==Fast Ball==<br /> Just wondering where Abra and Phanpy are coming from, as [http://pokefor.greenchu.de/meowth346/gbc/poke-balls/ Pokémon Forever states] &quot;If the wild Pokémon is Magnemite, Grimer, Tangela, Mr.Mime, Eevee, Porygon, Dratini, or Dragonair, then Catch Rate = Catch Rate * 4.0. Please note that while these Pokémon have a greater chance to catch, not all of them can be found in the wild.&quot;<br /> [[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 09:53, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'm curious, too. I see various sites that say things like &quot;Pokemon who can run away, like Teddiursa, Tangela, or Raikou&quot;, but the game stores a list of Pokemon whom the ball works better on, and that's what I used on PokéFor. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]] 21:09, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> In that case, somebody remove the two offending, untrue Pogeys?<br /> <br /> And Abra really shouldn't be on that list, as it uses Teleport; it doesn't actually run away... [[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 21:45, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)<br /> Teleport counts, though. The quick ball worked on Abra.[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 20:17, 12 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Should Anime-only Balls be included in this? I'm thinking of the Dark Balls and whatever it was that Sammy used from movie 4--BJG<br /> <br /> There was the Dark Ball and the GS Ball. That's all there have been. I think they would make a useful addition, though. [[User:Fabu-Vinny|Fabu-Vinny]] 19:22, 23 May 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==TCG sections==<br /> Shouldn't the page give hyper links to all of the Poké Balls featured in the cards? [[User:Mr. bell|Mr. Bell]] 08:49, 15 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hyper Ball in manga ==<br /> <br /> Do you think it's worth mentioning in the &quot;in the manga&quot; section about the existance of the Hyper Ball? Ash attempts to use it in the EToP manga at the end of issue 4, and is apparently very expensive. [[User:Fsilone|Fsilone]] 02:48, 21 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Isn't the Hyper Ball just the Japanese name of the Ultra Ball? &lt;span style=&quot;background:#FF9030&quot;&gt;'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|155|Fire echy}}&lt;span style=&quot;background:#664444&quot;&gt;[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD700&quot;&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E0E0E0&quot;&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;DS!&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;/span&gt; 03:00, 21 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::...yeah. It is. And it's rather expensive, too... [[User:Tina|Tina]]&lt;sup&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 03:03, 21 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Happiness Balls ==<br /> <br /> Shouldn't there be a note about the increased Happiness rating that Luxury Balls and Friend Balls produce on captured Pokemon? Or is that just a myth that has no bearing on the game data?<br /> :This is a good question, how come it wasn't answered? [[User:Felinoel|Felinoel]] 21:45, 14 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Main Picture ==<br /> <br /> Is an SSBM trophy really appropriate for the main picture on this article? I think it should be a plain Pokéball without the trophy base at the bottom - [[User:MTC|MTC]]<br /> <br /> I think it looks a lot better, just a sharper image if you know what I mean. And it doesn't matter the source, a Poké Ball is a Poké Ball. [[User:Evkl|evkl]] 19:25, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I think the Same as MTC. It could be the picture of a Poké ball that is in the first opening possibly. [[user:David aipom|David aipom]]<br /> <br /> As long as the picture illustrates on how the ball looks like in the anime and games (which it does), the it is acceptable. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 18:17, 22 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Team Rocket Balls... ==<br /> <br /> I clearly remember seeing black balls thrown by the head of Team Rocket in &amp;quot;Mewtwo's Return&amp;quot; feature length episode. Now it's a bit sad since I juest returned the darn video to the rental store and check on this which I saw just moments ago! From my poor memeory I think they were just black pokeballs with the typicial Team Rocket red R instead of red dot.<br /> <br /> They were used to capture the running pokemon (Meoth, Pikachu and the cloned pokemons), though Mewtwo used it's psychich powers to release them, making them somewhat uninteresting...<br /> <br /> Actually, I think you're thinking of the PokéBalls being thrown by the Team Rocket grunts at the herd of Tauros that Mewtwo was lifting with Psychic.[[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 02:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ball Images ==<br /> <br /> The large images are nice, I admit, but perhaps using sprites would make the tables look neater and, by having ones for the Safari, Ultra and Master Balls, more complete? Given time, I could even make modifications of the sprites for the Generation II Balls. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 20:08, 11 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Replacing Images ==<br /> <br /> I don't think that the current images for Hoenn Balls and Poke and Great Ball are nice. I think they're ugly imitations of Sugimori Artwork. I have a Sugimori Artworks for almost all PokeBalls (the Johto ones are bad-qualited, though) and I think they're much better. I think we should replace the current images with the Sugimori's ones.<br /> :I dunno, I don't think the current ones look bad at all - just big, given how much they stretch the rows of the table. And how bad quality are you talking for the Johto ones? Call me a sprite fanatic, but I think the third generation item sprites would look best in the tables. The second generation ones would be missing, but, as I said, I could make some custom ones. Also, I'm not particularly fond of the anime Pokéball image, since it's so heavily pixelated... --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 01:36, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Actually... now that I think of it, perhaps both of our concerns can be dealt with more easily than I thought. Hold on just a little bit... --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 18:50, 20 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == One big vs. many small ==<br /> I've been talking with TTE. The idea of breaking some of the meat of this article up still bugs me on some level, but... well, might as well bring the idea to everyone.<br /> <br /> The idea, basically, is to start having articles for groups of items as well as individual. This one, for example, would be moved to &quot;Ball&quot;, and the lower section would link to the different articles on individual item types. If we do this for this one, we do it for all item groups...<br /> <br /> Thoughts? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] &lt;sup&gt;~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 02:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I think it'd be a good idea. After all, we have separate articles for every berry, why shouldn't we for Poké Balls and held items as well? Then, we could categorize them better, without having a gigantic page (which is what the page on [[held items]] is quickly becoming...).<br /> <br /> :C'mon, anyone else? --'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 21:55, 17 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Ooh, just had an idea. How about dividing the page into individual sections for each type of ball, going into detail about its catch rate, where it's able to be purchased, and so on? --'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 15:59, 14 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Thats a GREAT idea. We could have another template for all the balls. --[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad]] [[User talk:Usyflad10|&lt;font color=&quot;#42528C &quot;&gt;10&lt;/font&gt;''']] 23:21, 4 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Green Pokeball ==<br /> <br /> I uploaded this image i took from the first pokemon episode, but i cant get the sizeing right...Someone should take a look and stick it in the Anime section --[[User:Britannia's Blade|Britannia&amp;#39;s Blade]] 19:33, 23 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Handled. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] &lt;sup&gt;~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 19:53, 23 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Dive Ball ==<br /> What is the increase of efficiency for a dive ball when you are capturing a water/bug hybrid?<br /> :That's the Net Ball that raises the multiplier for Water or Bug Pokémon. Dive Ball in Gen III works better on Pokémon underwater, and in Gen IV works better on Pokémon you encounter while Surfing. Anyway, I think it doesn't stack, but I dunno. If it doesn't stack, it's as listed, but if it does, it's 9x. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 00:19, 21 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Does the Dive Ball really have an increased effect while Surfing in D/P? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 02:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::I Belive it does. It's text says so. I don't know the rate though.<br /> <br /> == Sir Aaron's Staff and the passage of time within the ball. ==<br /> <br /> Should Sir Aaron's Staff be considered a pre-pokéball object as well? Also, should it be noted about how time passes for pokémon contained within pokéballs? There have been a few instances where pokémon have spent of years, centuries even, within a pokéball/pokéball like object and not aging or feeling any sort of passage of time.<br /> <br /> I think so, it is a method of capturing a Pokémon. &lt;big&gt;[[Image:Ani137MS.gif]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User:Tesh|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F05030;&quot;&gt;'''TESH'''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;[[Image:Ani233MS.gif]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User Talk:Tesh|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA;&quot;&gt;'''TALK'''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt; [[Image:Ani474MS.gif]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User:Tesh/Other|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#EEC226;&quot;&gt;'''FUN'''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/big&gt; 16:41, 15 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> This is my fist post (or edit, I'm new)<br /> The passage of time seems to vary between pokéball and pokéball like objects, when in pokéballs, pokémon seem to be conscious (as trainers give commands before releasing them) but don't physically age, but in some other pokéball like object, time passes as if there sleeping while there in the object. amaster6000 11:12, 17 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :There is obviously very little passage of time in Aaron's staff; long enough for Lucario to stew in his rage, but quick enough apparently for him to still be blind. Also remember that most of those centuries-old Pokémon are usually special specimens--often a Psychic-type or something like [[Lokoko]].--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] &lt;small&gt;•&lt;/small&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 14:58, 17 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Lv 2 wurmple breaks master ball ==<br /> <br /> i know the copy is hacked, but how did this happen &lt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqw7bL2HK3E&amp;feature=related&gt;<br /> its supposed that a master ball never breaks<br /> :That's a Great Ball. Dur. {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;n&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe &lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7BBD;&quot;&gt;δ&lt;/span&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|282}}&lt;/sup&gt; 19:56, 15 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Gen IV Park Ball ==<br /> Are the links to the Gen II games really necessary? I know that some people have been using it's resemblance to the GS Ball to support the idea of a Gen IV remake of Gold and Silver, but without an actual statement from Nintendo or Game Freak, should we really make it seem like such speculation is factual? --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 13:25, 25 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> == Hey, look what I found! ==<br /> Hey, I was surfing through Youtube the other day, and look what I found! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAfAKDFPw0o There's a planet in the &quot;Bouy Base Galaxy&quot; in Super Mario Galaxy that looks like a Poké Ball! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7F00&quot;&gt;Theryguy&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 00:33, 1 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The videos been removed :( But i found a new link http://youtube.com/watch?v=MweOaEzAesw [[user:David aipom|David aipom]]<br /> <br /> == Jelly Donuts? ==<br /> Umm, in the anime section of the article, someone links to a Rice Ball as a Jelly Donut. I don't think it should be referred to as this, regardless of what 4Kids calls it. [[User:Shonen Jump Master|Shonen Jump Master]] 15:45, 23 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ball capsulses ==<br /> <br /> Should we mention ball capsules in this article?[[User:Darkmaster0|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#BBBBBB;&quot;&gt;Darkmaster&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Darkmaster0|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#AAAAAA;&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt;]]15:48, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Not really, they are not significant to the pokeball at all[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;'''C '''&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;'''Is'''&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;'''for Cookie'''&lt;/span&gt;]]<br /> ::What do you mean they have nothing to do with the Poké Ball? I think they should be mentioned somewhere in the article. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7F00&quot;&gt;Theryguy&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 22:46, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::Same here, I think so too. With a (brief) list of the Seals, maybe? [[User:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;Tina&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]]{{ani|281}}&lt;/sup&gt; 22:49, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == &quot;You missed the Pokémon!&quot; ==<br /> <br /> I'm not sure where to include this, but it was possible to see ^that message^ when throwing a Pokéball in Generation I. &lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF&quot;&gt;--'''''Posted by'''''&lt;/span&gt; [[User:Deadlymethane|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#7BA05B&quot;&gt;'''''Deadly'''''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Deadlymethane|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#7BA05B&quot;&gt;'''''methane'''''&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;span style=&quot;color:#DA3287&quot;&gt;'''at'''&lt;/span&gt; 21:12, 29 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I remember... Stupid Safari Zone... '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:21, 30 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> I took the liberty of adding it myself. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 13:16, 4 May 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Heavy Ball? ==<br /> <br /> It says that heavy ball is &quot;+20 +30 -10&quot;<br /> What does that mean? +X to the catch rate? or what?<br /> --[[User:MewUser|MewUser]] 17:16, 4 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Heavy Ball added to the catch rate, So a +30 on a catch rate of 3 would make it catch rate 33. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 17:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> From the information given on the page, Snorlax would be the only Gen II pokemon to get the +30 and the +20 would rare as well e.g. Graveler is only 105Kg and HO-OH is only 199Kg [[User:Tzion|Tzion]] 22:35, 18 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == the old ball ==<br /> <br /> did you put in that old ball from pokemon 4 ever the movie. the picture is at http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/90/Old_Poké_Ball_from_Pokémon_4Ever.png/180px-Old_Poké_Ball_from_Pokémon_4Ever.png {{unsigned|Talvin7111}}<br /> &lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;<br /> We need a better quality picture than that, surely? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 00:33, 2 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> :The only image I could find was Wiipedia's: [[:Wikipedia:Image:Old Poké Ball from Pokémon 4Ever.png]]. Isn't there a better screenshot? &lt;font color=&quot;#788878&quot;&gt;→&lt;/font&gt;&amp;nbsp;[[User:C Teng|&lt;font color=&quot;#3366BB&quot;&gt;C&amp;nbsp;Teng&lt;/font&gt;]]&amp;nbsp;[[User talk:C Teng|&lt;font color=&quot;#E32636&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[talk]&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]] 13:10, 30 July 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::I don't know how to replace an existing image so could someone do it for me? [http://img178.yfrog.com/gal.php?g=48637373.jpg Old Poké_Ball] I took these screenshots from the DVD at 16:9. Click on the image for their full size. [[User:Coololz352|Coololz352]] 00:21, 8 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::The image needs to be uploaded to the archives, then the image can be replaced. Preferably the image would be retaken as a png, rather than a jpg though, as they are better quality (although with the current image I'm sure it can be overlooked). To upload images, go to the archives (in the side bar) and log in with your Bulbapedia username and password, then upload the image, e.g. to ''Sammy's_Old_Poké_Ball.png'' or something similar. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;small&gt;(talk)&lt;/small&gt;]] 06:25, 8 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Poké Ball Images ==<br /> <br /> The larger images for the &quot;Generation II Poké Balls&quot; are not showing up. It is just showing the name of the images. Is this just me?--[[User:Mjr162006|Mjr162006]] 03:47, 24 August 2008 (UTC)&lt;br&gt;&lt;small&gt;Yeah, I'm new here.&lt;/small&gt;<br /> :Never mind.I cant see them either[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:##800000;&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/span&gt;]]<br /> <br /> ::It looks like the images were either deleted, or never existed in the first place.--[[User:Mjr162006|Mjr162006]] 04:03, 24 August 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::They were there.I remember seeing them.......A MYSTERY![[User:Darth Cookie Monster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:##800000;&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/span&gt;]]<br /> <br /> ::::It is just a wild guess, but could this have anything to do with the recent upgrade to MediaWiki 1.13.0? Sometimes things can accidentally get lost when the wiki software is updated. I know that has happened more than once at Zelda Wiki.org (my main wiki).--[[User:Mjr162006|Mjr162006]] 04:17, 24 August 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Generation II ==<br /> <br /> Generation II has no Poké Ball sprites?&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Calibri&quot;&gt;~[[User:Pokemaniac102|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#AAAAFF;&quot;&gt;Ποκε&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFAAAA;&quot;&gt;μανιακ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#999999;&quot;&gt;α0β&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt; 17:21, 19 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> *There were no pokéball sprites. [[User:Phocks|Phocks ~ Come dance with me!]] 09:15, 30 October 2008.<br /> <br /> == Origin of the Concept? ==<br /> <br /> &quot;In the series, Ultraseven, when unable to fight (usually because his Ultra Eye has been stolen), Dan will often produce a small capsule that releases a giant-sized monster to fight in his place.&quot;<br /> <br /> Now I'm not sure if this is true or not, but I believe the concept of &quot;Keeping Pokémon inside Pokéballs&quot; originated from Ultraseven. --[[User:Arima|Arima]] 00:52, 13 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> :&quot;Originate&quot; seems to strong a word. Inspired by, possibly. Worth a mention on the page, maybe. State as fact a connection that's at best speculation, unless we hear that Satoshi Tajiri said something in an interview confirming that Ultraseven is where he got the concept...not such a good idea. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 01:48, 13 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::GASP! OR MAYBE ITS INSPIRED BY THE TALE OF GENIES! MYSTICAL BEINGS BEING KEPT IN CONTAINERS AND FORCED TO DO BATTLE WITH EACH OTHER.<br /> :::Dont put that nonsense on the page. Their are so many other references its not worth it--[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;Shut the **** up&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Spy on My Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> ::::Genies don't even battle. They grant wishes. Besides, that sounds ridiculous.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:51, 10 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::Exactly why he said don't put that stuff in there. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 04:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == About the Master Ball... ==<br /> Should we include the locations of the master balls from games? Or is that off-topic. And if yes, where shall we put it? --[[User:Metagross72|Metagross72]] 04:45, 2 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Thats a valid point, but no, that would seem like overkill[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;曲奇饼妖怪&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Spy on My Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> ::I Think that this article should tell about the locations of the Poké Ball kinds, or at least where to buy them because I'm getting agravated from having to run all over Sinnoh just to buy a Dusk Ball. [[User:Dolphin2|Dolphins_are_awesome!]] 16:45, 20 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::No. We are an encyclopedia, not a strategy guide.[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;曲奇饼妖怪&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Spy on My Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ::::I know! I'll make a page called Locations of Master Balls! I got this idea from [[Locations of TMs]]. I'll do that right now! --[[User:Metagross72|Metagross72]] 23:58, 28 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::: That'll get everyone getting Masterballs, But no, we don't need another article which is highly likely to get deleted in less then 0.11111111111111111111 seconds.--[[User:Force Fire|&lt;font color=&quot;FF7777&quot;&gt;FF&lt;/font&gt;]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|&lt;font color=&quot;7777FF&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;edits&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]]-[[User talk:Force Fire|&lt;font color=&quot;28E228&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;talk&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]]) 00:12, 29 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Maybe Locations of limited availibilty Poké Balls? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|¿Nos hablamos?]] 00:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Such as? [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 04:34, 30 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Reviving something old here, but really. The Master Ball is an important part of the game, just because we list where you can obtain one doesn't make us a &quot;strategy guide&quot;, in my opinion it makes us more like an encyclopedia as an encyclopedia tries to have '''all''' the information on something, including the locations of things. Making a new article is taking it a little too far, but if it hasn't been done already (and I skimmed through the article and it seems to not have been done) we should list the locations of the Master Balls. That and a lot of people are probably going to want to know where too find them. [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 21:28, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I agree with that. In Kanto it was a gift from the Silph president, Johto I don't know because I never bought the games, Hoenn in the Aqua/Magma hideout in R/S and then Aqua hideout in E, and then Cyrus gives it to you in D/P/Pt. Unless that's only in Pt. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 21:54, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::Elm gives you the Master Ball in GSC. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 22:01, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::And now someone just needs to figure out a neat (as in, tidy) was of adding the information onto the article... I recommend in a table/box kinda thing, I'd do it myself but I'm both busy, and I have no idea how too. xD Sorry I'm not much help. [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 22:25, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::::How about this?<br /> {| {{bluetable2|c sortable}} align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #ccf;&quot;<br /> ! Generation<br /> ! Game(s)<br /> ! Location<br /> ! Requirements<br /> ! Notes<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation I|I]]<br /> | {{game|Green}}, {{2v|Red|Blue}}, {{game|Yellow}}<br /> | [[Silph Co.]] <br /> | Talk to the president after defeating [[Giovanni]].<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation II|II]]<br /> | {{3v|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}<br /> | [[Professor Elm]]'s laboratory<br /> | Talk to Professor Elm after earning all eight badges.<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation II|II]]<br /> | {{3v|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}<br /> | [[Johto Radio Tower]]<br /> | Match all 5 numbers in the [[Lucky Number Show]].<br /> |<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation III|III]]<br /> | {{game|Ruby}} <br /> | [[Magma Hideout]], [[Maxie]]'s office <br /> | None<br /> | Entrance is blocked off after battling {{p|Groudon}}.<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation III|III]]<br /> | {{game|Sapphire}}, {{game|Emerald}} <br /> | [[Aqua Hideout]], [[Archie]]'s office <br /> | None<br /> | Entrance is blocked off after battling {{p|Kyogre}}. (Sapphire only)<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation III|III]]<br /> | {{3v|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}<br /> | [[Lilycove Department Store]] <br /> | Defeat your rival in front of the store, match all 5 numbers in the lottery.<br /> | <br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation III|III]]<br /> | {{g|Colosseum}}<br /> | [[Agate Village]] <br /> | Recieve incomplete email from [[Eagun]] in [[Realgam Tower]]<br /> | Eagun's email is cut off before it can mention the Master Ball.<br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation III|III]]<br /> | {{g|XD}} <br /> | [[Pokémon HQ Lab]] <br /> | Talk to [[Professor Krane]] before heading to [[Citadark Isle]]<br /> | <br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation III|III]]<br /> | {{2v|FireRed|LeafGreen}}<br /> | [[Silph Co.]] <br /> | Talk to the president after defeating [[Giovanni]]<br /> | <br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation IV|IV]]<br /> | {{3v|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}<br /> | [[Galactic Veilstone Building]] <br /> | Defeat [[Cyrus]]<br /> | <br /> |-<br /> | [[Generation IV|IV]]<br /> | {{3v|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}<br /> | [[Jubilife TV]] <br /> | Earn the {{badge|Coal}}, defeat the [[Galactic Grunt]]s near the northern exit of [[Jubilife City]], match all 5 numbers in the lottery.<br /> | <br /> |-<br /> &lt;!--| [[Generation IV|IV]]<br /> | {{2v|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}<br /> | [[Professor Elm]]'s laboratory <br /> | Talk to Professor Elm after earning all eight badges.<br /> | Probably not a good idea to reveal this bit until after the games are released, eh?<br /> |- --&gt;<br /> |}<br /> <br /> Is this any good? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] &lt;small&gt;[[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]]&lt;/small&gt; 23:07, 9 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah I think that looks pretty good. :D Anyone have any objections? [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 23:57, 9 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::If there are no objections, and I don't think there are any, I'll just go ahead and put this on the page now. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] &lt;small&gt;[[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]]&lt;/small&gt; 00:41, 10 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::It doesn't really look like it fits at its current place. Maybe would could make a page exclusive to masterballs as we could do some in the anime stuff and put this table there... we could also add screenshots of where the masterballs are found. Additionally the table isn't quite consistent as it says after battling Kyogre (Sapphire only) it should also say after battling Groudon (Ruby only). Otherwise, everything is great. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 00:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::The (Sapphire only) part is because Sapphire&amp;Emerald have the Aqua hideout. It's only blocked in Sapphire, not Emerald. That's why it's there. As for the chart, if it could be made a bit smaller and collapsible, or at least smaller, then it would be a bit better. And if it can't be made smaller, then collapsible would probably be fine. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 14:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::Making it collapsible is a better option than making a whole page dedicated too the Master Balls I guess. [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 14:33, 10 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::It's way better than a separate page, because then we'd have to make one for every single Poké Ball. The only real significance between it and the others is that it never fails, and there's only one per game unless you get extremely lucky at the lottery. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 14:38, 10 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Yeah, I mean, I'm actually neutral too the idea of a separate page for the Master Balls, as in my opinion there's kinda important, but meh. [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 14:57, 10 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Opponent's only keep Pokémon in Poké Balls? ==<br /> <br /> &quot;In the games, all opponents keep their Pokémon in Poké Balls. The reason for this is unknown.&quot;<br /> <br /> Whoever put this up, what is this supposed to mean? If you mean they always keep them in Balls, then it's false, because there are countless trainers in-game that let their Pokémon wander around, and in Colosseum and XD you can even battle them, but they'll go back into their Ball pre-battle.<br /> <br /> I interpreted as the type of Ball, since it's true all opponents keep them in Poké Balls, not Ultra Balls or whatever, but since there's contention, I think some real clarification would be nice. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:39, 27 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I sure of seen some other ball somewhere, but thats besides the point. I interpreted it as in the case of Ash's Pikachu, not being in the pokeball, but battling in the anime, while the jigglypuff in yellow version and a machop in gold couldnt battle, but you could see the walking around[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;曲奇饼妖怪&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Spy on My Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> ::Then it's not true that all opponents keep their Pokémon in their Balls. Best example is the Shadow Lugia in XD, who was definitely not kept in a Ball.[[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:46, 27 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::Did an opponent use it? Was it ever &quot;captured&quot; in anyway?[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;曲奇饼妖怪&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Spy on My Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> ::::Yes, Greevil clearly commanded it to attack and it did, not to mention you had to use a Snag Ball to catch it, not a regular Ball like the wild Pokémon. There are other examples in that game. In Phenac, a Peon is talking to his Absol before you battle him, and he uses the Absol in battle. In Agate Village, there is an old woman standing with a Mightyena and if you choose to battle her, she uses the Mightyena. Eagun also keeps his Pikachu out but still uses it to battle. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:55, 27 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Non main game but ok. Im gonna go locate that trainer with the safari zone. Keep it the way you have it[[User:DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF1111&quot;&gt;DCM&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:DCM|((&lt;font color=&quot;#DAA520&quot;&gt;曲奇饼妖怪&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:Contributions/DCM|&lt;font color=&quot;#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;Spy on My Edits&lt;/font&gt;))]]&lt;/sub&gt; 04:57, 27 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: You're all missing the point, I think that who first posted this was trying to say that when you battle another trainer they always send out their Pokémon in normal Poké Balls, you know, because I've never seen an in-game opponent sending out any Pokémon in a, say, Master Ball. However, why is this important, I mean, yeah it's true, but I don't think is something we should see in the article, or is it important? I may be wrong.--[[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 18:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Apricorn Balls ==<br /> <br /> There is what looks to be official images of the Apricorn Balls at this photobucket account [http://s280.photobucket.com/albums/kk200/sexton_06/Weapons/] as well as some better quality images of the Hoenn balls here [http://s113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/Sckar_2006/Animes/Pokemon/Pokebolas/?start=0] There is also better quality images of the [http://media.photobucket.com/image/dusk%20ball/CL4M9/DuskBall.png?o=3] Dusk Ball, [http://s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc32/Marcos98/?action=view&amp;current=heal.jpg] Heal Ball and [http://s265.photobucket.com/albums/ii239/CL4M9/?action=view&amp;current=CherishBall.png] Cherish Ball. Just throwing them out there to see if you want to use them. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 13:00, 19 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Question about quick ball and timer ball ==<br /> <br /> What classes as a turn? Is it every one of YOUR turns, or the total amount of turns in battle?<br /> ie<br /> You use false swipe,<br /> Pokemon uses hyper beam,<br /> Would this be counted by the game as 1 turn or 2? --[[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 22:34, 20 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :one turn.--&lt;small&gt;[[Flash Fire (ability)|&lt;font color=&quot;turquoise&quot;&gt;freezing&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;[[Heat Wave (move)|&lt;font color=&quot;teal&quot;&gt;COLD&lt;/font&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;&lt;sub&gt;([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]])&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/small&gt; 22:35, 20 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Dusk Ball ==<br /> <br /> Dusk Ball is in effect while in a forest? I mean... do forests like Eterna activate the ''night'' effect of the Dusk Ball? Or is it in effect at night only? '''[[User:Hfc2x|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#008800&quot;&gt;h&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;fc&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Hfc2x|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#008800&quot;&gt;X&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 20:05, 23 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Good question. I know it works everywhere at night and in caves 24/7... But in forests? That's a good question. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]].....[[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|IT IS TIME!]] 20:15, 23 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 3D Picture ==<br /> <br /> Don't you think it would be better to have Ken Sugimori's artwork for the Poké Ball instead of that 3D Picture? It's not really official artwork and looks nothing like the balls in the anime! I think if we used Ken Sugimori's artwork it would give people more of a general idea of what Poké Balls actually look like. Just an idea! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 12:09, 25 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Do you have one? --☆'''[[User:Kevzo8|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A2958D&quot;&gt;Ke&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B8B8D0&quot;&gt;vz&lt;/span&gt;]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#705898&quot;&gt;o8&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 12:18, 25 January 2009 (UTC)<br /> Why don't you just use the Pokeball pic from the chart down the page. I believe that it's a Sugimori.--[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad10]] 01:28, 25 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Anime Pokeballs ==<br /> <br /> Half the anime pokeballs are actully just customized pokeballs painted to look unique, namely the Lake Ball, Chansey ball, Green Pokeball and Rocket Ball. The game series also suggest that custom poke balls exist in this manner; when you deliver Oak's Parcel he states it's a custom ordered Poke Ball. By listeing these under the heading &quot;Customized Pokeballs&quot; we can save some space.--[[User:Lego3400|Lego3400]] 23:49, 2 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Rich lady expensive custom ball ==<br /> <br /> I remember a episode where a rich lady gets a custom ball from a jewelry store (like you would get a watch.) I can't remember if the woman had a snubull or if it was that female meowth that inspired TR Meowth to learn to talk. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 21:43, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Probably {{TP|Madame Muchmoney|Snubbull}}. It sounds about right. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 21:51, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::but why is there no mention of these novelty or should i say costume (like fake jewelry) balls? [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 22:34, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::No, no no, Hunter Blade. It was Meowzee (spelling?) the Meowth whose Poké Ball had loads off jewelry on it. If my memory serves right. [[User:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2E0854&quot;&gt;~~&lt;b&gt;Takoto&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F4C2C2&quot;&gt;サソデイ]]&lt;/span&gt; 23:03, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::: I think I'm going just add something about the option of buying custom balls for pets. ^_^;; [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 23:22, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::: Added. geez.... I'd Marry a Wobbufet or become a Mormon and marry Jessie and Jessiebelle before Meowzie's owner. Woman had me pulling a Fred G. Sanford.<br /> <br /> ::::: It seems that the basic outer appearance is the same, just the ball Meowzie's owner bought was diamond studded. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 00:05, 9 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Brock, Ninetales and breaking the ball? ==<br /> <br /> In the last part of the mechanics section it says Brock breaks his ball after releasing Ninetales ? that can't be right, his article says noting about a Ninetales being in his procession and i don't remember him having one or breaking a ball [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 00:58, 9 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> :[[EP232]]. Last paragraph of the synopsis. &amp;mdash; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;font color=&quot;#0000C8&quot;&gt;THE TROM&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] &amp;mdash; 01:04, 9 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: It needs rewording, it makes it sound like brock was the one who broke the ball. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 01:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Green Poké Ball ==<br /> <br /> Does Gold's Gold and Silver pic have one, just to mention?--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 23:53, 18 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == TCG ==<br /> <br /> Where's the link to the regular Poké Ball card? Nowhere. Off to link it.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FE2E9A&quot;&gt;''Mew''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;span class=&quot;explain&quot; title=&quot;Prmatt11 or Mew are my ONLY names!&quot;&gt;*&lt;/span&gt; [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' was here at 11:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I agree, they really need to put the Pokémon card!--[[User:The Bulb&amp;#39;s Master|The Bulb&amp;#39;s Master]] 02:06, 3 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Timer Ball... ==<br /> <br /> Does the Timer Ball increase in...<br /> :a) turns after start<br /> :b) turns after last Poké Ball (from start if none)<br /> :c) turns after last Timer Ball (from start if none)<br /> <br /> ...? &lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] ([[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Giratina's_Embodiment|contribs]])'' &lt;/small&gt; 18:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> :After the start of the battle. You can alternatively think of this as 'since the wild Pokémon appeared'. This has been noted in the article. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 20:15, 4 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Johto ball art ==<br /> <br /> YAY<br /> <br /> Okay so how soon can we get that in here? '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 02:55, 10 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == the heavy ball ==<br /> <br /> So the heavy ball takes 30 away from the catch rate if the pokemon is under 100kg, what if a pokemon already has a catch rate lower than 30 and is under 100kg? ie the [[lake trio]] and [[cresselia]], would their catch rate be a negative value? Would it be even possible to catch them in a heavy ball? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 12:10, 11 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Well I managed to get Raikou in a heavy ball which, according to this page, would have meant Raikou had a catch rate of -17 because his weight is lower than 451.5 lbs (it's 392.4 lbs). So it either doesn't take any more off the catch rate when it's 3 or I got very very lucky. [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 00:50, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == safari ball art ==<br /> <br /> in the platinum guidebook, there is a picture of safarai ball. why is the picture of the safari ball here fanmade? -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 09:44, 12 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Because no one's uploaded it. Feel free to tidy it up and upload it yourself. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 09:59, 12 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == HGSS/DPPt? ==<br /> <br /> Since the balls in HG and SS are not programmed into DP and Pt, will trading between the two games be possible if using an apricorn ball? I don't know how they'd make that work. [[User:Dexington|Dexington]] 19:35, 17 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> :No one does at this stage. There are plenty of speculations on the Bulbagarden Forums, if you'd like to discuss this further. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 19:58, 17 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Has this been explored any further yet?--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 22:38, 15 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Gen II balls become Poké Balls. They cannot be held. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 04:18, 16 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::What happens if they are traded back? Does stay a PokéBall, or does it change back to what they were caught in? This sort of thing should go in the page. (Or was it already?)[[User:Poisson14|Poisson14]] 02:56, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::Are you sure? If I try to view a pokemon that was caught in a HGSS-only ball on my pearl cart (via the trade screen), it crashes. Any pokemon in HGSS-only balls also appear as bad eggs in PBR. --[[User:Pyritie|Pyritie]] 11:23, 15 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::HGSS Balls -&gt; plain Poké Balls. Just tested it. I don't have PBR, so I can't test that. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:47, 15 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Hmm, odd... no idea what's causing the problem then. --[[User:Pyritie|Pyritie]] 12:14, 16 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Could be because of a hacking code gone wrong. If you didn't hack, it could be some sort of hardware glitch or someone else might have hacked it (if lent to somebody for some time or bought as a used game). [[User:Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#CD7F32&quot;&gt;Turtwig's&lt;/font&gt;]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF7F00&quot;&gt;A-B-Cs&lt;/font&gt;]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#green&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/font&gt;]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#yellow&quot;&gt;contribs&lt;/font&gt;]]) 00:29, 17 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Possibly trivia ==<br /> <br /> I have noticed in the anime, NO one throws the ball with their left hand ever (Excluding throwing 2 or more balls at the same time) --[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 18:12, 22 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Other manga? ==<br /> <br /> What are Pokeballs like in other manga? I know in D&amp;P Adventures, they're similar to Special's view on Pokeballs. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 00:24, 12 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Fast Ball ==<br /> <br /> according to serebii the fast ball works on pokemon with a &quot;high speed&quot; in HGSS instead of pokemon that flee. The rest look the same as GSC. Does anyone know what/can find out what the threshold for the pokemon's speed is for it work. And is based on a pokemon's base stats, it's actual stats, or their nature? http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/apricorns.shtml [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 16:38, 16 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Compé? ==<br /> <br /> Why on the Earth is &quot;Compe Ball&quot; spell as &quot;Compé&quot;? That makes no sense. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 13:51, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :And why is it called Compe or Compé anyway? It's Park Ball. Anyone who played GSC knows that. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] &lt;small&gt;[[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]]&lt;/small&gt; 16:05, 24 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Thing is, that's how it was in GSC. They changed the name of the Park Ball in HGSS to the &quot;Compe Ball&quot; as to avoid confusion with the ball used in Pal Park. I don't see why we can't add some alt-text saying &quot;Park Ball in Generation II&quot;, though... →''[[User:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B16ABB;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;'''T'''&lt;/u&gt;inā&lt;/span&gt;]]'' &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B16ABB;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B16ABB;&quot;&gt;★&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 16:25, 24 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Good idea, Tina. I've done that. And if anyone else is really confused about the naming like I was (although it may seem obvious), it's the '''compe'''tition ball :D &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 07:06, 25 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> : A Poké Ball for the Bug-Catching Compe-tition? --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 01:45, 21 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Master Ball locations section ==<br /> <br /> Uh...shouldn't we use a new template for the '''List of Master Ball locations in the games''' section of this page?<br /> <br /> Since, you know, it looks kinda bland compared to the rest of the lists, which use the new ones...thoughts about this? --[[User:InfinityByZero|InfinityByZero]] 23:05, 20 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Master Ball Should Have Own Page==<br /> <br /> Maybe it should have it's own page. Because it is way more important than a Poke Ball. Or maybe all the balls should have their own page, the exception being the Gen II balls, which should have a collective page. I could do this with some help. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 14:35, 3 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Nah. The new item template will make it perfect. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 05:17, 14 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Three days ==<br /> <br /> I should finish it tomorrow, though.　Major major major edit. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 10:02, 14 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The Safari and Park Balls ==<br /> <br /> So I'm a bit confused here. In every generation there have been Safari Balls or Park Balls, yet we only have three images for Safari/Park Balls and no mention of their different appearances. There should exist:<br /> Gen. 1: Safari Balls (no sprites exist but should have official artwork);<br /> Gen. 2: Park Balls (GSC);<br /> Gen. 3: Safari Balls (for Emerald and FRLG);<br /> Gen. 4: Park Balls (DPP)*, Safari Balls (DP&amp;P)*, Compé Balls (HGSS)*, plus possibly HGSS Safari Balls. (*We have these.)<br /> I'd personally like to see a note on the page mentioning that there have been several different forms for Safari Ball, with pics if possible. (I seem to remember that Gen. 1 Safari Balls were green with a black &quot;S&quot; on them and that Gen. 3 had spikey orange designs on lime green.)<br /> Also, this might help when looking for refs... and inconsistencies: http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Safari_ball_issues.jpg<br /> [[User:Norle|Norle]]<br /> :Um... we don't need Gen I ones, because it's stricly game sprites only. I have emerald, but need help getting screenshots. I COULD ALSO PROVE THE CELEBI GLITCH WITH SCREENSHOTS! [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:25, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Norle has some very good points. Unfortunently this is the Pokémon fandom, where good points are ignored and wild speculation is ripe. These variations on the Safari Balls sound interesting. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 15:01, 3 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Lucian's Comments ==<br /> <br /> Well I was playing my Pokemon Platinum game one day and I saw Lucian in the Canalave Library, which surprised me. He told me that Pokemon instinctively curl into a ball to recuperate and that is why they'll be caught by a Pokeball. Unfortunately, I don't have his exact words. This event happened on a Thursday between 5 and 6pm and I had already beaten the Elite Four once. I didn't see anything about what he said on the Pokeball page and I didn't know if anyone else here has gotten to talk to Lucian at the library. It was interesting information but I didn't know if that should be added to the page or not. {{unsigned|Kitty}}<br /> :Lucian appears at the library after beating the E4. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 20:51, 6 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Fiore ==<br /> <br /> Someone should add the fact that there are no Poke Balls in Fiore. Maybe in Almia, too, but I don't know for sure whether Poke Balls are used there. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] &lt;sup&gt;([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]])&lt;/sup&gt; 15:54, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Moon Ball? ==<br /> Does this ball give the multiplier for just Nidorina, Nidorino, Jigglypuff, Clefairy, and Skitty, or to everyone in their respective families? Also, does it even give the multiplier to Skitty?--[[User:Bulbafreak9000|Bulbafreak9000]] 04:30, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Skitty evolves with the Moon Stone, so yes. It's not available in the wild, though, so the only way to ''legitimately'' get that bonus is to have a Ditto transform into one. And personally I always wondered if it gave the multiplier to the whole family... Doubt it in Gen II, stuff was primitive then, but in IV, I'd imagine so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#80964B&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C4E673&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 20:48, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Premier Ball sell price ==<br /> As far as I can tell, Premier Balls sell for 100, not 500. (Checked in my copies of Sapphire and Platinum.) [[User:Glass Coyote|Glass Coyote]] 00:19, 15 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I'll change it when it's unprotected. Or an admin might change it. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 04:43, 15 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == g template ==<br /> <br /> We have a few of them floating around on this page. Colosseum and XD under &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9_Ball#Pok.C3.A9_Ball_accuracy here]&lt;/span&gt; and Snap under &lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9_Ball#In_the_games here]&lt;/span&gt;. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 19:35, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :''Those'' G's are supposed to be there. We don't frown upon that template's usage when it's used for the names of video games--in fact, that's the intended purpose of the template. It's the &quot;lazy&quot; usages, those that aren't names of video games, that we frown upon--simply put, anything that read stuff such as &lt;nowiki&gt;{{g|anime}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;, &lt;nowiki&gt;{{g|Center}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;, &lt;nowiki&gt;{{g|Sunday}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;, &lt;nowiki&gt;{{g|Special}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; (this was before the big to-Adventures move that happened early November 2009), and the like were bound to get relinked. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:45, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Oooh, ok. That makes sense, although I'm pretty sure this is the only page that has them still on it. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 05:10, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::[[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:G|Not even close]]. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#ED9121&quot;&gt;electAbuzz&lt;/span&gt;''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#ED9121&quot;&gt;z&lt;/span&gt;''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#ED9121&quot;&gt;z&lt;/span&gt;''']] 12:31, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Well then search was being a butt yesterday. .___. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 19:06, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Pikachu==<br /> '''Even Ash's Pikachu, the most prominent Pokémon in the anime which spends all its time outside with Ash, has a plain Poké Ball that differs from others only by the small yellow lightning bolt symbol on it, as seen in Pokémon - I Choose You!.'''<br /> <br /> I don't think this is even relevant - and it isn't proven that that Poké Ball is the Poké Ball Ash carries around, since Bulbasaur, Charmander, and Gary's Blastoise left their Poké Balls (which had Japanese writing on them a few times I've seen it, although they may have retconned it because I think I also saw an episode without it) on that podium in Oak's Lab. Also Gary's Blastoise is now held in a regular Poké Ball as seen when he battles Ash at the end of the Master Quest series.<br /> <br /> I hope we're allowed to put up YouTube links in talk pages, but just to show you, here is EP001 where in the shot of the glass case opening, it shows on the empty Poké Balls of Bulbasaur, Charmander and Squirtle that there is writing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMNw7cPDYv8<br /> <br /> Anyway, my point is that we shouldn't take it for face value that Ash uses that lightning-bolt marked Poké Ball, and also to ask if someone who is able can delete that comment in the beginning of the Anime section. Thank you! :D [[User:Lucadan|&lt;font style=&quot;color:#1874CD;&quot;&gt;'''''Lucadan'''''&lt;/font&gt;]] [[User talk:Lucadan|&lt;sup style=&quot;color:#003F87;&quot;&gt;'''''(Talk)'''''&lt;/sup&gt;]] 21:23, 28 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New data from DFC ==<br /> <br /> Apparently a user from the [http://www.dragonflycave.com/pokesite.aspx Cave of Dragonflies] hacked into the assembly data and decoded it (?? I don't know how that works, but whatever) and found that the actual [http://www.dragonflycave.com/capture.aspx catch rates] for some Balls (Dusk, Quick, Nest, Timer) are different to what the fandom has been parroting around. I've updated Dusk and Quick to match, but I've no idea how to fix the Nest and Timer catch rates. [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 02:57, 4 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Updated HG/SS Apricorn ball data has also been added there and I have edited the page to match; however, some sort of consensus must be reached on how to show the Nest and Timer Ball catch rates before they can be corrected, since they clearly can't be done the current way. --[[User:Dragonfree|Dragonfree]] 06:28, 5 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::The timer ball catch rates are correct according to the website, &quot;int(number of turns passed in battle + 10) / 10, maximum 4&quot;, using this you get the same catch rates described in this article when you mess about with number of turns in battle. Bear in mind &quot;int&quot; takes off the stuff after the decimal point from the number. So for example after 27 turns the calculation is int(27+10)/10 = 3.7 - take the point .7 and you're left with 3 - Just as the article says, you can try with other amounts of turns and it doesn't contradict what the article says. <br /> ::The nest ball is a bit of a problem though, &quot;int(40 - Pokémon's level) / 10&quot;, the article says for pokemon under 19 it's x3 - but (40-19)/10 = 2.1 - int(2.1) is 2... The article also says that between and 20 29 it's x2, but int((40-25)/10) =1 This would imply that when the level is 10 and under it's x3, between 11 and 20 x2, and 21 and over x1 [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 01:17, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::No; it can take on decimal values. Note that the division by 10 is not inside the parentheses. (...which means the int() is actually redundant since what's inside the parentheses is always an integer anyway; it was just a leftover from the old formulas and I just removed it.)<br /> <br /> == Love Ball and non/neutral-gender pokemon? ==<br /> <br /> so apparently [[Mew]] learns [[Attract]] at some level and it only works on other non-gender pokemon, would the same kind of thing apply where you have a non-gender pokemon out and use a love ball on another non-gender pokemon? --[[User:Shadofrak|Shadofrak]] 00:47, 14 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Mew can learn attract by TM45. It always fails. Now use the link templates. {{p|Mew}}, {{m|Attract}}. As for Love Balls, 1× catch rate. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:50, 14 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::This trivia suggests otherwise, so one of us (as in Bulbapedia members) is wrong. &quot;Mew is the only genderless Pokémon able to learn Attract and Captivate; however, when used by Mew, they will fail ''unless'' the opposing Pokémon is also genderless.&quot;<br /> <br /> == Variants in Electric Tale/Dengeki Pikachu ==<br /> <br /> Though the article claims that there are no ball variants in this series, two of then have been seen (one original to the series, and one based on the games) in the chapter when Ash/Satoshi fought the Haunter to avenge Sabrina who fell victim to it:<br /> <br /> The first one shown is the giant Poké Ball intended to capture the giant Haunter, first suggested by Ash (along the lines of &quot;It's a giant Pokémon, right? So we need a giant Poké Ball to capture it!&quot;). In the same chapter, he attempted to capture the weakened Haunter using a Hyper (Ultra) Ball, only to lose it when the Haunter self-destructed before the ball hit it. [[User:HechEff|HechEff]] 15:27, 28 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Net Ball x6 on wild Surskit?==<br /> Bringing up the topic of Net Ball, which works 3x on Water and Bug types, and Surskit fits such description... [[User:Dry Bones|&lt;font color=&quot;#191970&quot; face=&quot;Mistral&quot;&gt;DB&lt;/font&gt;]] 21:52, 19 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> :If anything, it would be x9, as it would be x1, then x3, and multiplying that again with 3, is x9. [[User:Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#CD7F32&quot;&gt;Turtwig's&lt;/font&gt;]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF7F00&quot;&gt;A-B-Cs&lt;/font&gt;]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#green&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/font&gt;]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#yellow&quot;&gt;contribs&lt;/font&gt;]]) 22:32, 19 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::No. It only does x3. Like the Dusk Ball triggers its higher catch rate if used in a cave OR at night, the Net Ball triggers if used on a Bug type OR a Water type. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:04, 20 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Green Poke Ball ==<br /> <br /> In the first episode, in the tournament, a trainer sends out an Onix in a green Poke Ball. Should I add that? {{unsigned|LoadOfMentos}}<br /> :I could've sworn that was already in the article... anyways, yeah, go for it. Add it to the &quot;in the anime&quot; section. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#006400&quot;&gt;'''Zesty'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3CB371&quot;&gt;'''Cactus'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 15:40, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::At one point in time I am sure it was already in there, it is my fav one. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 21:55, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Gen II balls in Gen V? ==<br /> Wait a minute... why is the only way to get gen II balls in gen V through hacking? Why not trading? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 21:55, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Because 1. Pokemon can't hold items when transfered from Gen IV to Gen V, and 2. The Gen II balls can't be held, to prevent trading to DPP – [[Water (type)|&lt;font color=&quot;Navy&quot;&gt;Water&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[Hydro Cannon (move)|&lt;font color=&quot;Blue&quot;&gt;User&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; &lt;small&gt;&lt;sub&gt;([[user:WaterUser|page]], [[User talk:WaterUser|talk]])&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/small&gt; 22:34, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Ah I see, k thanks, can't wait til April when I can get it [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 01:54, 30 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Mistake in the Trivia section ==<br /> <br /> In the trivia section it says that in all other languages the names of the poké balls are always related to the term &quot;ball&quot;, but it's not true: in italian, infact, even though the name of the item in the videogames is poké ball, they're also called &quot;sfere poké&quot; (poké spheres). This second name is so widespread that it is used even in the opening theme of the first season's anime. Since I'm not an expert in the site's guidelines, I didn't change the section because I'm not sure whether or not this can be added to the page. Can anybody who is a little bit more experienced than me do this correction, if it's a proper one??? --[[User:Melograno|Melograno]] 14:15, 30 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :You are welcome to remove any information that is factually incorrect :) I've got this one. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 18:47, 30 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::So is it that there are just two interchangeable names, or is there a distinction between the individual item and the group of items? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:05, 2 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Premier Ball ==<br /> <br /> Just asking; is there really any point to the premier ball other than to remember an event of some sort? - [[User:PikaThunder|PikaThunder]] • [[User Talk:PikaThunder|PT's Talk]] - 21:51, 4 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :It looks different than a regular Poké Ball. That's it. Players can use it for whatever they want. For instance, on my HeartGold Version, I tried to catch all event Pokémon (for example, Sudowoodo and Shiny Gyarados) in Premier Balls. So the point of them is whatever you make of it. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&lt;sup&gt;P&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;K&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;M&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;N&lt;/sub&gt;]] 01:26, 5 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Oh, okay. Thanks! - [[User:PikaThunder|PikaThunder]] • [[User Talk:PikaThunder|PT's Talk]] - 10:25, 5 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sport Ball ==<br /> <br /> Click the show button on the Sport Ball section and you'll know what I mean. — [[File:Ani644MS.png]][[User:Zekasaur|&lt;span style=&quot;color:Black&quot;&gt;Ze&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Zekasaur|&lt;span style=&quot;color:Green&quot;&gt;kas&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|&lt;span style=&quot;color:Red&quot;&gt;aur&lt;/span&gt;]][[File:Ani001MS.png]] 06:14, 6 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I see nothing? Could you elaborate? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 11:49, 7 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Yeah, there is nothing wrong. Or is it your computer maybe? - [[User:PikaThunder|PikaThunder]] • [[User Talk:PikaThunder|PT's Talk]] - 22:02, 11 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == BLUE pokeball ==<br /> <br /> I've seen Ethan's Gold and Silver artwork and, surprise, he has a blue pokeball in his belt. Worth noting? --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 21:36, 28 November 2010 (UTC)</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Arceus_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=1269481 2010-11-27T19:42:38Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* Intro */ arceus does NOT appear in the sinnoh pokedex</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;!--To reflect Arceus's Multitype ability, the Arceus type template is used to switch the type of the displays. DO NOT change them to Normal.--&gt;<br /> {{PokémonPrevNextHead | species=Arceus | type={{arceustype}}&lt;!--DO NOT change--&gt; | prev=Shaymin|prevnum=492 | next=Victini | nextnum=494 }}<br /> {{PokémonInfobox|<br /> name=Arceus |<br /> jname=アルセウス |<br /> tmname=Arceus |<br /> image=493Arceus.png |<br /> size=170px|<br /> art=Pt | <br /> pron=&lt;sc&gt;ar-siyuhs&lt;/sc&gt; (pronunciation in PBR) |<br /> ndex=493 |<br /> opdex=221 |<br /> typen=1 |<br /> type1={{arceustype}}&lt;!--DO NOT change--&gt; |<br /> type2= |<br /> species=Alpha |<br /> height-ftin=10'06&quot; |<br /> height-m=3.2 |<br /> weight-lbs=705.5 |<br /> weight-kg=320.0 |<br /> abilityn=1 |<br /> ability1=Multitype |<br /> abilityd=Multitype |<br /> egggroupn=0 |<br /> egggroup1=No eggs |<br /> egggroup2= |<br /> eggcycles=120|<br /> evhp=3|<br /> expyield=324 |<br /> lv100exp=1,250,000 |<br /> gendercode=255|<br /> color=Gray |<br /> catchrate=3 |<br /> body= 08|<br /> pokefordex=arceus |<br /> generation=4 |<br /> footnotes= }}<br /> '''Arceus''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''アルセウス''' ''Arceus'') is a {{type2|Normal}} [[legendary Pokémon]]. However, its type will change when it is holding one of sixteen items known as [[plates]] and can in reality be any type.<br /> <br /> Like {{p|Darkrai}} and {{p|Shaymin}} before it, Arceus was not officially recognized by Nintendo until February 2009, the year of its debut movie. It was later revealed by the [[Pokémon.com|official site]] on August 3rd, 2009.<br /> <br /> Arceus is also known as &quot;The Original One,&quot; as it is said that it created [[Sinnoh]], and possibly the entire [[Pokémon universe]], along with the [[lake guardians]] and [[dragon trio]]. Arceus can only be found in the wild legitimately with the [[Azure Flute]], which has not yet been distributed [[Nintendo event|officially]] and can currently only be obtained by cheating. However, Arceus itself was once distributed at {{wp|Toys &quot;R&quot; Us}} stores in the United States from November 7 to November 15, 2009.<br /> <br /> Arceus is the final Pokémon in the [[List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number|National Pokédex]] within [[Generation IV]].<br /> <br /> ==Biology==<br /> ===Physiology===<br /> Arceus is an equine being similar to a {{wp|Qilin}} or {{wp|Centaur}}. Its body color is white with a gray, vertically-striated underside, the pattern of which has similar recurrences on the underside of Arceus's mane, tail, and face, and Arceus's four pointed feet are tipped with gold hooves. Its mane is quite long, jutting away from its head, and its face is gray, with green eyes and red pupils, and a green circular pattern below its eyes. Arceus also has a streak of gold coloration on its head, and ears that point upward. Its neck is fairly long, with two pairs of extrusions to the sides, and a flap-like feature on the neck's underside that is colored white like much of the body. It also has a golden cross-like wheel attached to its body by its round abdomen, which changes color along with its eyes and hooves based on Arceus's {{t|{{arceustype}}&lt;!--DO NOT change--&gt;|current type}}. The wheel also has four jewels attached to it. The pattern of striated gray of Arceus's underbelly resumes past Arceus's waist, the underside of Arceus's limbs also being gray in coloration, and with extrusions at the tops of the legs. Arceus's tail is fairly like its mane in shape and coloration.<br /> <br /> ====Gender differences====<br /> Arceus is a genderless species.<br /> <br /> ====Special abilities====<br /> [[File:Arceus_Formes.gif|right|thumb|An animation displaying Arceus's different colorings while holding plates]]<br /> According to legend, Arceus is thought to have created the [[Sinnoh]] region and possibly the entire [[Pokémon world]], the [[lake guardians]]: {{p|Uxie}}, {{p|Azelf}}, {{p|Mesprit}}, and the [[dragon trio]]: {{p|Dialga}}, {{p|Palkia}}, and {{p|Giratina}}. <br /> <br /> Arceus is {{a|Multitype|multifarious}}; it can change forms and types with the use of the special [[plate]]s.<br /> <br /> Arceus is [[signature move|the only known]] Pokémon who can learn {{m|Judgment}}. Arceus can also use many attacks of various types, but to a lesser extent than {{p|Smeargle}} or {{p|Mew}}. Arceus is also the only non-Dragon-type Pokémon other than Smeargle who can learn {{m|Draco Meteor}}, although it must become a {{type2|Dragon}} (by holding a {{DL|Plate|Draco Plate}}) in order to learn it.<br /> <br /> According to the anime, its power can also bring back things that it once destroyed or make certain things vanish into thin air. Arceus also has the ability to halt time.<br /> <br /> ===Behavior===<br /> While normally a kind, heroic and benevolent Pokémon, Arceus does not suffer fools gladly, and will attack in a violent rampage if betrayed or deceived. It also holds long grudges if angered.<br /> <br /> ===Habitat===<br /> Arceus lives at the [[Hall of Origin]], which can only be accessed by use of the [[Azure Flute]] at [[Spear Pillar]]. However, in the [[M12|twelfth Pokémon movie]], it seems to live in a wide dimension of stars and galaxies.<br /> <br /> ===Diet===<br /> {{main|Pokémon food}}<br /> In ''[[M12|Arceus and the Jewel of Life]]'' it is said to &quot;feed&quot; off the energy of the elemental plates, but is seen in the games holding a Rowap Berry.<br /> <br /> ==In the anime==<br /> [[File:Arceus movie 12.png|thumb|250px|right|{{mov|Arceus|Arceus|12}} in the anime]]<br /> {{an|Arceus}} made its debut in ''[[M12|Arceus and the Jewel of Life]]''. It was angry at the people of [[Michina Town]] for [[Damos]]'s unwitting betrayal of it in ancient times, and so attempted to destroy the land. When Ash and his friends are teleported by {{an|Dialga}} to ancient times, they directly influence the event, changing the future for the better so that Arceus will stop its destruction.<br /> <br /> In ''[[DP152|Battle Finale of Legend!]]'', although Arceus is neither seen nor named, the [[Red Chain]] is said to contain the power of 'The Original One'. Using the Red Chain, Cyrus takes control of {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}} by causing a red ring similar to the one surrounding Arceus's body to appear around their bodies.<br /> <br /> Arceus makes a cameo in the opening ''[[The Greatest - Everyday!]]'' and ''[[We Will Carry On]]'', along with the [[dragon trio]].<br /> <br /> ==In the manga==<br /> [[Image:Arceus Multitype Adventures.png|thumb|right|250px|Archer and all the forms of Arceus]]Arceus appears as a central character in the Movie 12 manga adaptation, reprising its role from the film. After Arceus saved the world from a meteor, [[Damos]] took care of it. It gave Damos the [[Jewel of Life]] to make the land of [[Michina]] rich and fertile. Damos then betrayed Arceus, and it has been outraged ever since.<br /> <br /> In [[Pokémon Adventures]], {{adv|Gold}} and his team battle a wild Arceus in the opening pages of the {{chap|HeartGold &amp; SoulSilver}}, and even [[Exbo]]'s powerful {{m|Blast Burn}} attack is unable to damage the incredible beast.<br /> <br /> A few rounds later, it is revealed that it showed up in front of {{adv|Crystal}} and the [[Team Rocket]] Executives, and the former tried to catch it.<br /> <br /> ==In the TCG==<br /> {{main|Arceus (TCG)}}<br /> Arceus appears in the TCG in all nine {{TCG|elemental types}}, and a player can have as many Arceus cards in their deck as they like, unlike all other cards in the game (besides {{TCG|Basic Energy card}}s). Cards based on Arceus first appeared in the {{TCG|Platinum: Arceus|Arceus}} expansion set.<br /> <br /> ==Game data==<br /> ===Pokédex entries===<br /> {{Dex<br /> |type=arceus&lt;!--DO NOT change--&gt;<br /> |gen=4<br /> |diamonddex=It is described in mythology as the Pokémon that shaped the universe with its 1,000 arms.<br /> |pearldex=It is told in mythology that this Pokémon was born before the universe even existed.<br /> |platinumdex=It is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing, then shaped the world.<br /> |hgssdex=According to the legends of Sinnoh, this Pokémon emerged from an egg and shaped all there is in this world.<br /> |bwdex={{tt|なにも　ない　ばしょに　あった　タマゴのなかから　すがたを　あらわし　せかいを　うみだしたと　されている。|It is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing, then shaped the world.}}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Game locations===<br /> {{Availability|<br /> type=arceus&lt;!--DO NOT change--&gt; |<br /> gen=4 |<br /> dprarity= One |<br /> dparea=[[Hall of Origin]] &lt;small&gt;(requires [[Azure Flute]])&lt;/small&gt; |<br /> ptrarity= One |<br /> ptarea=[[Hall of Origin]] &lt;small&gt;(requires [[Azure Flute]])&lt;/small&gt; |<br /> hgrarity= One |<br /> hgssarea=[[Poké Mart]] &lt;small&gt;(Arceus event)&lt;/small&gt; |<br /> bwrarity= One |<br /> bwarea=[[Pokémon Global Link]] &lt;small&gt;(event)&lt;/small&gt; |<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ====In side games====<br /> {{SidegameAvail<br /> |type=Arceus&lt;!--DO NOT change--&gt;<br /> |ranger3=[[Air Fortress]] ([[Ranger Net]] mission)&lt;br&gt;[[Light Temple]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> A statue of Arceus can be found in {{g|Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky}}.<br /> <br /> ===Held items===<br /> {{HeldItems|type={{arceustype}}&lt;!--DO NOT change--&gt;<br /> |event1=Rowap Berry|event1type=Berry|event1rar=100<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Stats===<br /> ====Base stats====<br /> {{BaseStats|<br /> type=arceus&lt;!--DO NOT change--&gt;|<br /> HP= 120 |<br /> Attack= 120 |<br /> Defense=120 |<br /> SpAtk= 120 |<br /> SpDef= 120 |<br /> Speed= 120 }}<br /> <br /> ===Pokéathlon stats===<br /> {{main|Arceus (Pokémon)/Pokéathlon stats}}<br /> {{:Arceus (Pokémon)/Pokéathlon stats/{{arceustype}}}}<br /> <br /> ===Type effectiveness===<br /> {{main|Arceus (Pokémon)/Type effectiveness}}<br /> {{:Arceus (Pokémon)/Type effectiveness/{{arceustype}}}}<br /> <br /> ===Learnset===<br /> ====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br /> <br /> {{learnlist/levelh|Arceus|arceus&lt;!--DO NOT change--&gt;|arceus&lt;!--DO NOT change--&gt;|5|4}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|Start|Seismic Toss|Fighting|Physical|&amp;mdash;|100|20||}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|Start|Cosmic Power|Psychic|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|20||}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|Start|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|&amp;mdash;|100|15||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|Start|Punishment|Dark|Physical|&amp;mdash;|100|5||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|17='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|10|Gravity|Psychic|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|5||}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|20|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|5='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|30|Hyper Voice|Normal|Special|90|100|10||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|40|ExtremeSpeed|Normal|Physical|80|100|5||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|50|Refresh|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|20||}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|60|Future Sight|Psychic|Special|100|100|10||}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|70|Recover|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|10||}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|80|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|90|Perish Song|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|5||}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|100|Judgment|Arceus|Special|100|100|10||'''}}<br /> 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Day|Fire|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|5||}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|15='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM14|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|15='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM16|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|30||}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|10||}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|5||}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM19|Telekinesis|Psychic|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|15||}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|25||}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|&amp;mdash;|100|20||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM22|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|12='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM24|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|13='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM25|Thunder|Electric|Special|120|70|10||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|13='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM26|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|5='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|&amp;mdash;|100|20||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM29|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|14='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM30|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|8='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM31|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|2='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|15||}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM33|Reflect|Psychic|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|20||}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM35|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|95|100|15||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|10='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM36|Sludge Bomb|Poison|Special|90|100|10||}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM37|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|10||}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM38|Fire Blast|Fire|Special|120|85|5||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|10='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM39|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|6='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM40|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|&amp;mdash;|20||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|3='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|10||}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Canon|Normal|Special|60|100|15||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM49|Echo Voice|Normal|Special|40|100|15||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM50|Overheat|Fire|Special|140|90|5||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|10='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM52|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|2='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM53|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|12='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM57|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|13='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM59|Devastate|Fire|Special|30|100|15||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|10='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM60|Postpone|Dark|Status|&amp;mdash;|100|15||}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM61|Will-O-Wisp|Fire|Status|&amp;mdash;|75|15||}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM65|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|8='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM66|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|17='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM67|Retaliation|Normal|Physical|70|100|5||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM68|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM70|Flash|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|100|20||}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM71|Stone Edge|Rock|Physical|100|80|5||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|6='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM73|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|&amp;mdash;|100|20||}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM75|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|30||}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|10||}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM78|Smooth Over|Ground|Physical|60|100|20||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|5='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM80|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|6='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM81|X-Scissor|Bug|Physical|80|100|15||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|7='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM83|Cheer Up|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|30||}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM84|Poison Jab|Poison|Physical|80|100|20||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|4='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM85|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|14='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM86|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|&amp;mdash;|100|20||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|12='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|90|15||}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|10||}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM91|Flash Cannon|Steel|Special|80|100|10||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|9='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM92|Trick Room|Psychic|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|5||}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM94|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|2='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM95|Bark Out|Dark|Special|55|95|15||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|17='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|HM01|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|HM02|Fly|Flying|Physical|90|95|15||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|3='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|HM03|Surf|Water|Special|95|100|15||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|11='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|HM04|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|HM05|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|11='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/tmf|Arceus|Arceus&lt;!--DO NOT change--&gt;|arceus&lt;!--DO NOT change--&gt;|5|4|form=yes}}<br /> <br /> ====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====<br /> {{learnlist/tutorh|Arceus|arceus&lt;!--DO NOT change--&gt;|arceus&lt;!--DO NOT change--&gt;|5|4}}<br /> {{learnlist/tutor5|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Special|140|90|5||'''|yes}}<br /> |-<br /> | class=&quot;roundybottom&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{arceus&lt;!--DO NOT change--&gt; color light}}; font-size: 90%; line-height:10px;&quot; colspan=&quot;8&quot; | <br /> * A black abbreviation in a colored box indicates that Arceus can be tutored the move in that game<br /> * A colored abbreviation in a white box indicates that Arceus cannot be tutored the move in that game<br /> * '''Bold''' indicates a move that gets {{color2|000000|Same type attack bonus|STAB}} when used by Arceus<br /> * ''Italic'' indicates a move that gets STAB only when used by an evolution or {{color2|000000|Form differences|alternate form}} of Arceus<br /> * Arceus must be holding the {{color2|000000|Plate#Draco Plate|Draco Plate}} when Draco Meteor is taught.<br /> * Click on the generation numbers at the top to see move tutor moves from other generations<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ====By {{pkmn2|event}}s====<br /> {{learnlist/eventh|Arceus|arceus&lt;!--DO NOT change--&gt;|arceus&lt;!--DO NOT change--&gt;|4|4}}<br /> {{learnlist/event4|[[List of Nintendo event Pokémon in 2009#Toys &quot;R&quot; Us Arceus|Toys 'R' Us events]]|Roar of Time|Dragon|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|16='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/event4|[[List of Nintendo event Pokémon in 2009#Toys &quot;R&quot; Us Arceus|Toys 'R' Us events]]|Spacial Rend|Dragon|Special|100|95|5|Tough|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|16='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/event4|[[List of Nintendo event Pokémon in 2009#Toys &quot;R&quot; Us Arceus|Toys 'R' Us events]]|Shadow Force|Ghost|Physical|120|100|5|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|8='''|''}}}}<br /> {{learnlist/eventf|Arceus|arceus&lt;!--DO NOT change--&gt;|arceus&lt;!--DO NOT change--&gt;|4|4|form=yes}}<br /> <br /> ===Side game data===<br /> {{Sidegame|<br /> type={{Arceustype}}&lt;!--DO NOT change--&gt; |<br /> ndex=494 |<br /> Ranger3=yes |<br /> group3=Normal |<br /> assist3=Normal |<br /> field3=None |<br /> field3power=- |<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Evolution===<br /> {{evobox/0formes17}}<br /> <br /> ===Sprites===<br /> {{Sprite|<br /> type=arceus&lt;!--DO NOT change--&gt;|<br /> gen=4|<br /> gender=18formes|<br /> ndex=493|<br /> name=Arceus|<br /> animated=1|<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> [[File:Spr 4p 493-Unknown.png|thumb|right|Normal-color sprite for {{type2|???}} Arceus]][[File:Spr 4p 493-Unknown s.png|thumb|right|{{pkmn2|Shiny}} sprite for {{type2|???}} Arceus]]<br /> *At level 80, Arceus is the second-highest level Pokémon available for capture, after the {{p|Magikarp}} in the [[Resort Area]] in {{game|Platinum}} (which can be caught at any level). However, the [[Azure Flute]] needed to encounter it has never been made officially available.<br /> * Arceus's English name has had three different pronunciations. Before it was officially revealed, fans pronounced it as &quot;AR-see-oos&quot;, as does [[Pokémon Battle Revolution]]. Then, a promotional trailer for ''[[M12|Arceus and the Jewel of Life]]'' pronounced it as &quot;Ar-SAY-us&quot;. Its official pronunciation was then revealed in a [[Pokémon.com]] mailbag as &quot;ARK-ee-us&quot;. Its original pronunciation is still in popular usage and isn't considered to be incorrect.<br /> * Arceus's [[base stat]] total is 720, higher than any other Pokémon.<br /> ** In its base form, Arceus has the highest [[base stat]] in {{stat|Defense}} of all {{type2|Normal}} Pokémon.<br /> * All Generation IV games have sprites for Arceus using its Multitype ability with all 18 types, including {{type2|???}}. It is disputed whether the ???-type Arceus is obtainable, as there is no [[plate]] in the code that can be used for this. It is possible this sprite was programmed in to prevent game crashes caused by tampering with Arceus's type.<br /> * Arceus's signature move, {{m|Judgment}}, is the only move that Arceus is guaranteed [[Same-type attack bonus|STAB]] for, as it is always the same type as Arceus itself. However, on the battle screen, Judgment is always displayed as a {{type2|Normal}} attack.<br /> * Even though it is said that Arceus created the world with its thousand arms, it is not shown to have any arms at all, nor can it learn hand-based or arm-based moves.<br /> * Holding the [[Toxic Plate]], Arceus is the only legendary {{type2|Poison}} Pokémon.<br /> * {{m|Earth Power}} is the only move with a fixed base power, besides {{m|Judgment}}, that Arceus learns by level-up which can receive [[Same-type attack bonus|STAB]] with a plate attached.<br /> * Arceus is the only event-exclusive [[trio master]], needing the [[Azure Flute]] to be encountered in {{3v|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}.<br /> ** Furthermore, Arceus is the only trio master of two [[Lake guardians|different]] [[Dragon trio|trios]].<br /> * Arceus is the only Pokémon to never officially receive a [[List of Pokémon by Diamond &amp; Pearl Battle Pokédex number|DPBP number]]. {{p|Kadabra}}, which was not released as a TCG card during the DPBP era, is assumed to be #070, as {{p|Abra}} and {{p|Alakazam}} are #069 and #071, respectively.<br /> * The ring around Arceus's body appears to have a malevolent counterpart in the embodiment of the [[Red Chain]], as a red version of it is shown to ring Dialga and Palkia around the middle when [[Cyrus]] takes control of them in [[DP152]].<br /> * Arceus is one of three Pokémon that can learn all of the moves ever obtainable as [[HM]]s. The two others are {{p|Mew}} and {{p|Smeargle}}.<br /> * Arceus is the one who is rumored to have prevented all Pokémon in the future from disappearing in [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky]]. Dialga explains that it &quot;was no miracle&quot; that they were saved, and that a &quot;greater power&quot; saved them all. Arceus is the leader of the dragon trio, of which Dialga is a member.<br /> <br /> ===Origin===<br /> Arceus is particularly based on a {{wp|creator deity}}, present in many world cultures. The conception of the first god might be influenced from {{wp|Kunitokotachi}} and {{wp|Amenominakanushi}}, who, according to {{wp|Shinto}} myth, summoned {{wp|Izanami}} and {{wp|Izanagi}} to create Japan with the spear. It may also be a reference to the Chinese mythical creature, the {{wp|Qilin}}. Its myth is nearly identical to that of the {{wp|Pangu}}, the Chinese creation deity. Arceus may also be inspired by (or a representation of) the bodhisattva {{wp|Avalokiteśvara}}, who, in {{wp|Buddhism}}, is either pictured with eleven heads and one thousand arms (the latter of which is mentioned in Arceus's flavor text) or in a {{wp|Chenrezig|white four-armed manifestation}} (which could look similar to Arceus's Normal form). Some inspiration may have come from a {{wp|horse}}, because of its Platinum sprite and attack movements in Pokémon Battle Revolution.<br /> <br /> ====Name origin====<br /> Arceus's name may come from the words ''arch'' (highest) and ''deus'', which is Latin for ''god''. It may also have a root in the Latin word ''arcanus'', which means ''secret; sacred mystery''. Arceus's name may also come from the word ''archaic'' (ancient), which comes from the Greek ''arkhaios'', and is derived from the ancient Greek word for &quot;beginning&quot;, ''arkhē''. It could have also come from the Latin word ''archetypus'' (original). Alternatively, Arceus's name can be seen as a portmanteau of ''Zeus'', the most powerful of Greek gods and ''arch'' (highest). Another theory may be the combination of Zeus and Ra spelled backwards. Zeus being the king of gods and ''Ra'' being the solar god and creator (albeit in different pantheons). Those two qualities are shared by the Pokémon. Also, Arceus can also be derived from ''aureus'' (golden), possibly referring to its hooves and wheel. Nevertheless, Arceus's name origin and possible theories have led fans to believe that Arceus may be in fact a {{wp|creator deity}} in Pokémon form. Arceus's name is pronounced with a soft &quot;c&quot; (or &quot;s&quot; sound) by the announcer in [[Pokémon Battle Revolution]]; in keeping with its probable name origin, it is pronounced with a hard &quot;c&quot; (or &quot;k&quot; sound) in television commercials and in ''[[M12|Arceus and the Jewel of Life]]''.<br /> <br /> ==In other languages==<br /> *[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Arceus<br /> *[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Arceus<br /> *[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 아르세우스 ''Arceus''<br /> *[[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese (Taiwan)]]: 阿爾宙斯 ''Ā Ěr Zhòu Sī'' - Transliteration of its Japanese name. Also a portmanteau of 阿爾法 ''Ā'ěrfǎ'' ({{wp|Alpha}}) and 宙斯 ''Zhòusī'' ({{wp|Zeus}}).<br /> <br /> ==Related articles==<br /> * [[Arceus (anime)]]<br /> {{-}}<br /> &lt;!--==Notes==--&gt;<br /> {{Legendary Pokémon}}<br /> {{event Pokémon}}<br /> <br /> {{PokémonPrevNextFoot | prev=Shaymin|prevnum=492 | next=Victini|nextnum=494 | type=Arceus&lt;!--DO NOT change--&gt; }}<br /> {{Project Pokédex notice}}<br /> [[Category:Legendary Pokémon]]<br /> [[Category:Sinnoh Legendary Pokémon]]<br /> [[Category:Pokémon with different forms]]<br /> [[Category:Promotion-only Pokémon]]<br /> [[Category:Trio masters]]<br /> <br /> [[de:Arceus]]<br /> [[es:Arceus]]<br /> [[fr:Arceus]]<br /> [[it:Arceus]]<br /> [[ja:アルセウス]]<br /> [[pl:Arceus]]<br /> [[pt:Arceus (pokémon)]]</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:EzekielMaple&diff=1268370 2010-11-26T15:52:32Z

<p>EzekielMaple: Created page with &quot;My user page. I needed one.&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>My user page. I needed one.</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Rematch&diff=1267176 2010-11-24T23:53:19Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* Intro */ )</p> <hr /> <div>{{incomplete}}<br /> A '''rematch''' is a second battle against a {{pkmn|Trainer}}, [[Gym Leader]] or [[Rival|another]] [[Elite Four|notable]] [[Legendary Pokémon|opponent]]. This feature first appeared in {{2v2|Red|Green}}, with the player being able to fight the Elite Four more than once. The ability to fight regular Trainers found along routes appeared in {{2v2|Gold|Silver}} via the [[Pokégear]], with every other game since having the feature either in the same form, or in a different form. {{v|Emerald}} was the first game in the series to allow players to have a rematch with Gym Leaders, and while {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}} dropped that feature, it returned in {{v2|Platinum}} through the [[Battleground]] and has also been featured in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, with the Gym Leaders being fought in the [[Fighting Dojo]]. {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}} introduced the concept of upgrading the teams for the [[Elite Four]] once a task is accomplished, while the rematches for the Elite Four in previous games are the same as before.<br /> <br /> Players may also rematch many other Trainers using the the [[Vs. Seeker]] found in FireRed and LeafGreen, as well as Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum, and the {{DL|PokéNav|Trainer's Eyes}} or {{DL|PokéNav|Match Call}} features of the [[PokéNav]], found in Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald. These Trainers will have higher leveled Pokémon and give more [[Pokémon Dollar|money]]. <br /> <br /> In a rematch the opponent has different Pokémon, unless the player is re-battling a legendary Pokémon. The different Pokémon species they use to battle with in their rematch may include species only available after the National Pokédex is acquired. They may also have evolutions of Pokémon used previously in their teams.<br /> <br /> ==In side games==<br /> In the Ranger Games the [[Drowzee Guy]] will allow the player to re-do a memorable capture. In the {{ga|Pokémon Ranger|first game}}, this is the [[legendary beasts|legendary beast]] battle. In [[Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia|the sequel]], this is the {{p|Darkrai}} capture.<br /> <br /> In the Mystery Dungeon series, Legendary Pokémon that are fought must be fought again in order to be recruited. However, this is only true if said Legendary Pokémon is involved in the storyline.<br /> <br /> ==In the anime==<br /> In the anime, {{Ash}} always has to re-battle at least one Gym Leader as well as many other Trainers. Notable Trainers include [[Whitney]] and [[Pyramid King Brandon]].<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> * [[Unova]] is the only [[region]] where none of its Gym Leaders can be rematched.<br /> &lt;!--** By extension, [[Giovanni]] is the only in-game Gym Leader that cannot be rematched an indefinite amount of times, as he can only be battled in HeartGold and SoulSilver via an Event. However, he can be battled multiple times if the player has multiple Celebi. [[Koga]], the other former Kanto Gym Leader, has been able to be rematched indefinitely since Generation II, where he was an [[Elite Four]] member.--&gt;<br /> <br /> {{Stub|Game}}<br /> {{Project Games notice}}</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Michael&diff=1267105 2010-11-24T21:13:34Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* What is this? I don&#039;t even... */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>==Why?==<br /> Why is the Japanese name translated but not the English name? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 17:27, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> : It's Michael...nothing special..I should know...It's my name too [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 17:30, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::It is my name too and because of it being my name I looked up the meaning of it about a decade or so ago? Why can only the Japanese name's meaning be given in the article? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 17:51, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::It's just not there. Put it in. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 09:54, 8 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Ah I see, figured it wasn't there because of it being a bit religious... [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 02:10, 9 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == What is this? I don't even... ==<br /> <br /> I found this: Cite error: ref tags exist, but no references/<br /> <br /> Maybe is a broken link, in the trivia section.<br /> --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 21:13, 24 November 2010 (UTC)</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sentret_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=1267040 2010-11-24T17:47:52Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* Sprite Colors */</p> <hr /> <div>Behavior I'll grant, but that thing looks like a racoon to me.<br /> <br /> &gt;As you can see, Meercats also have stripes that run down their backs and tails, and blackened eyes:<br /> <br /> http://www.animalandreptileparkzoo.co.za/images/meercat.jpg<br /> <br /> In other words, there's nothing on Sentret that couldn't have come from a Meercat. Even the stripes and markings are similar to a meercat's. It could be just that people associate it with racoons more readily because racoons are more familar.<br /> <br /> - Zeta<br /> <br /> I'm looking more at the tail...<br /> <br /> How about a FERRET, considering most pokemon don't change what they're based on when they evolve, and Sentret could just as easily refer to a '''sentr'''y fer'''ret'''.<br /> <br /> == HGSS ==<br /> <br /> Should we start adding HGSS spaces on the Pokédex descriptions?--[[User:Pokelova|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;''I'm Pokelova''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Pokelova|&lt;sup style=&quot;font-family:Vivaldi&quot;&gt;&lt;sup style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;&lt;big&gt;''(Talk)''&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:28, 10 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> :And why would we do that? So we could have blank spaces all over our pages for the next six months?--[[User:RexRacer|'''&lt;font color=&quot;#B69E00&quot;&gt;Rex&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:RexRacer|&lt;font color=&quot;#93ABC3 &quot;&gt;Racer&lt;/font&gt;''']] 01:33, 10 May 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sprite ==<br /> On my computer it doesnt show Sentret's hgss sprites.Is it just my computer or others as well?--[[User:Riolufan09|Riolufan]] 10:07, 18 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> :It showed up, then the sprite was deleated. Idk y [[User:ShinyPikachu|ŚĥîΠŶPî₭₳ĉĥŭ]] 03:00, 22 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sprite Colors ==<br /> Looking at the trivia, there's one that notes that Sentret's sprite is lighter-colored in the Hoenn, Kanto, and Sinnoh-based games than it is in either Generation II or HG/SS. Is it possible that this decision could be a deliberate one on the part of the creators to indicate that Sentret is non-native to those areas? Since it's caught in the Sevii Islands in FR/LG and traded to R/S/E, or caught with Poké Radar in D/P/Pt, it would make a lot of sense. The anime has already set the precedent for Pokémon having color variations when they are seen in different areas. It's just something I noticed, but I didn't want to add it to the trivia without discussing it first. [[User:Phantomjunkie|&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;Phantom&lt;/span&gt;]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|&lt;span style=&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;Junkie&lt;/span&gt;]] 16:46, 15 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Well, i found [http://www.spriters-resource.com/ this site] and yes, the Gen iv sprites are different, but the unova(isshu) sprites are of the same color that the johto sprites --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 17:47, 24 November 2010 (UTC)</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Clefairy_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=1256253 2010-11-16T18:13:48Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* Edit Request */</p> <hr /> <div>== Edit Request ==<br /> <br /> →Pokedex entries<br /> :&lt;nowiki&gt;|heartgolddex=The moonlight that it stores in the wings on its back apparently gives it the ability to float in midair.&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> ♥ &lt;span style=&quot;border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;&quot;&gt;[[User:Umeko|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF99CC;&quot;&gt;梅子&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Umeko|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF99CC;&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;❀&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF99CC;&quot;&gt;&lt;sub&gt;✿&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt; 02:41, 7 November 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> '''Another''': in the manga section, there's a link to a wikipedia page that don't exist. The page that you want is actually &quot;Slapstick&quot; --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:13, 16 November 2010 (UTC)</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page/Archive_11&diff=1255271 2010-11-15T18:06:55Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* What to do with Dream World artwork. */</p> <hr /> <div>This is the {{bp|talk page}} for the Bulbapedia's front page. If you have a general comment about the wiki, please consider placing it in [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 our forum].'''<br /> <br /> == Previous discussions ==<br /> <br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10|Archive 10]]<br /> <br /> == Pokémon cries? ==<br /> Should we add Pokémon cries to the Pokémon articles?--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :It's been tried before, but it caused too many problems. It would still probably cause too much problems now.--[[User:Pokelova|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''Poké''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Pokelova|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;lova!&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10#Pokémon Cries|This has been discussed to death already.]] &lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;—&lt;small&gt;♥&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;b&gt;[[User:Jello|&lt;span style=&quot;color:orange;&quot;&gt;Jello&lt;/span&gt;]][[User Talk:Jello|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3FA9D0;&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;talk&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/b&gt; 20:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::We're going to try to get them put in as soon as possible. They've been sitting in a directory on the server for... jeez, at least a year. Last time we tried to put them in, the server exploded. Archaic's been wary of doing it since then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::Just out of curiosity, what file format was used for the cries? That may have been the problem.--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Over at de:, we have mp3 with the following syntax: &lt;nowiki&gt;{{#mp3:http://www.greenchu.de/nakigoe/025.mp3}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;. I cannot figure out where that parser functions comes from, though.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] [[User talk:Afrael|&lt;sup&gt;talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:59, 20 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::::I think having the files like [http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/#music Floatzel.net] have their music files could work well. We might even eventually be able to put route/town/cave music on the pages!--[[User:Pokelova|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''Poké''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Pokelova|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;lova!&lt;/span&gt;]] 04:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Move Trivia ==<br /> <br /> Should there be a trivia section for moves? For instance, only one Pokémon can learn [[Steel Wing]] by leveling up.--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 16:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :There are for some moves, but not all of them have any notable trivia to add, so there is no sub heading. If you think of '''notable''' trivia, then add the sub-heading and put it in. Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|&lt;font color=&quot;Blue&quot;&gt;Sam&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Samjohn95|&lt;font color=&quot;Purple&quot;&gt;john&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|&lt;font color=&quot;Teal&quot;&gt;95&lt;/font&gt;]] 21:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Glitch Pokémon ==<br /> <br /> Hi there. I remember when I was around nine, I used to play Pokémon Gold &amp; Crystal, and I remember there was this cloning trick that could clone pokémon and the items that they held. Anyways, I began to notice if I did the right trick at a certain time, (or whatever it was, it has been a while) I managed to get a special type of Pokémon, the trainer. The trainer of course, had no moves and therefore could only struggle, but you could use TMs and everything. I remember having fun with that, but I can't find any info on this.&lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Bublador}} ([[User talk:Bublador|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bublador|contribs]]) ''&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> Try this page, all of the glitches are on [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Glitches#All_Generations]] and please sign your comment when you use these talk pages. thank you --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 19:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> I'm just thinking if on every Pokémon's page that we have their Pronunciation somewhere? like this:<br /> <br /> Say: Sin-da-qwil<br /> <br /> What do you think?--&lt;small&gt;[[User:lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;KayKay&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;|&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:purple&quot;&gt;Chat to me!&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 07:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :It's a good idea, but I believe we've had problems with adding pronunciations in the past because of people not agreeing on the &quot;correct&quot; pronunciation (also, sometimes there are conflicting pronunciations from different official sources) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#006400&quot;&gt;'''Zesty'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3CB371&quot;&gt;'''Cactus'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Oh oh then. I just though because some Pokémon I can't pronounce their names--&lt;small&gt;[[User:lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;KayKay&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;|&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:purple&quot;&gt;Chat to me!&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 07:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::If you have a look at the source of, say, Bulbasaur's page, you'll see this:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;{{PokémonInfobox|<br /> name=Bulbasaur |<br /> pron=&lt;sc&gt;''bul''-buh-sore&lt;/sc&gt; &lt;ref&gt;Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''. <br /> Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5&lt;/ref&gt; |<br /> jname=フシギダネ |<br /> tmname=Fushigidane |<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> the &quot;pron=&quot; parameter is not coded into the infobox, so it does appear. But it's there on every Pokemon's page. [[User:Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD733;&quot;&gt;'''たか'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520;&quot;&gt;'''はり'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B69E00;&quot;&gt;'''い'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Yes, it's coded in but because of the disagreements on pronunciation and no clear official source for many of them, it was decided to hide them all. If Nintendo or anyone ever releases an official pronunciation guide then we'll be able to put them back up. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 07:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::Is whatever the pronunciation is in the English dub of the anime (and similarly the pronunciation in the Japanese dub for those not yet released over here) not enough to justify it? With the exception of the odd time where they've actually changed the pronunciation during it e.g. Regice... '''[[User:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; face=&quot;Verdana&quot;&gt;TheChrisD&lt;/font&gt;]]''' &lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Rants&lt;/font&gt;]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Edits&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 13:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Artwork?! ==<br /> <br /> I hate to be the silly one who starts the &quot;What's going on?!!&quot; discussion, but seriously, why have all the pictures of the Generation I Pokémon been changed to the old Red and Green artwork? Is it for an aniversary or something? [[User:Taromon777|&lt;span style=&quot;color:turquoise; font-family:Arial&quot;&gt;'''T a r o m o n'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 10:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Yes. Anniversary of RB was yesterday, so Gen I Pokémon got Gen I art. But due to the server cache it took some a while to switch over, and I believe they should all be starting to switch back now, but again, that'll be whenever the server cache gets updated. &lt;sc&gt;[[User:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2D4B98;&quot;&gt;Werdnae&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sc&gt; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009000;&quot;&gt;(talk)&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 11:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Actually, maybe it could be put on a switch, like with Gastrodon's forms, so it could switch between old and new artwork periodically. How's that sound? &lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' &lt;/small&gt; 13:49, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::That's exactly what it did. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 22:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Oh, so it's still in effect? As in, like, permanently? Because that was what I was suggesting. &lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' &lt;/small&gt; 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::Yes, next year and on certain other days the site will have easter egg effects. Yaaaay for surprises. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 20:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I won't panic when the Gym Leader pictures are replaced by fan art then... [[User:Taromon777|&lt;span style=&quot;color:turquoise; font-family:Arial&quot;&gt;'''T a r o m o n'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == just a though... ==<br /> <br /> i realise this is probably in the wrong place, but, as unlocking the generation IV nationaldex and requesting a trade on the GTS require only seeing a particular species of pokémon, would it make sense to include a section explaining where to see them. (and i am aware that the GTS has only around a week left). I know that people (granted they are few) have had problems viewing unown and riolu in DP for example.--[[User:Mr-connor|Mr-connor]] 13:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :There is a section explaining where to see, and catch, Pokémon. It's right below the Pokédex Entries section.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 13:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> '''TYPHLOSION LV:50<br /> KINDRA LV:50<br /> ALAKAZAM LV:50<br /> LUGIA LV:45<br /> TYRANITAR LV:55<br /> DRAGONITE LV:57'''<br /> <br /> this is my current team for pokemon soulsilver...i think it has room for improvement.<br /> [[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)brandon strayhorn[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :This isn't the place to put this. Post it on the forums.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] &lt;small&gt;([[User talk:Cold|talk]])&lt;/small&gt; 21:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Bulbagarden Archives ==<br /> <br /> I have a problem that I keep sending the confirmation e-mail like every week but it doesn't show up. I'm saying it here because I haven't confirmed my e-mail on Archives. Someone please help me!!!!!!--&lt;small&gt;[[User:lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;KayKay&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;|&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:purple&quot;&gt;Chat to me!&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 10:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Have you checked it isn't getting caught by the spam filter on your email? Maybe check that the email address is right too? &lt;sc&gt;[[User:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2D4B98;&quot;&gt;Werdnae&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sc&gt; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009000;&quot;&gt;(talk)&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 10:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Thanks Wardnae, I accidentally wrote the wrong email.--&lt;small&gt;[[User:lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;KayKay&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;|&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:purple&quot;&gt;Chat to me!&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 23:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> == Sizes on Pokémon pages.. ==<br /> <br /> Something that's been bugging me for a while. I've been manually going around and resizing the main art boxes at the top of each Pokémon page so they all match each other and look uniform. However, many times box sizes will still be off by a few pixels. Would there be anyway to code something that keeps them all the same size? [http://i54.tinypic.com/28rcc53.png] is an example of what Ii'm talking about. Basically, the box that surrounds the art.&lt;span style=&quot;color:#90EE90&quot;&gt;~★&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;'''[[User:Cubic Question|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#40E0D0&quot;&gt;''cubic''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;[[User talk:Cubic Question|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00FFFF&quot;&gt;''QUESTION''&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 13:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Even if you make the width a certain size, the length will be different according to the size of the art. To get it uniform, you would have to make every file have some whitespace so it would be the same size. That won't happen though. The boxes don't really need to be uniform in size. &lt;sub style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''[[User:Blake|Blake]]'''&lt;/sub&gt; &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]]&lt;/sup&gt; 20:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Litsen... ==<br /> <br /> First of all, I have a idea of a section in the pokemon's main page. Footprint. It'll be good. also, the Pronunciation topic above^^. We can take Right pronunciation from [http://pokemon.wikia.com/ Pokemon Wiki]. I know its cheating, but, Ill help us. --[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :The footprint is already in each Pokémon's infobox. And, we already discussed that the pronunciation caused conflict, and the Pokémon Wiki is far from a reliable source. So we probably won't be adding the pronunciation to each's Pokémon's page. [[User:Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD733;&quot;&gt;'''たか'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520;&quot;&gt;'''はり'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B69E00;&quot;&gt;'''い'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::By the way I think you were trying to say Listen not Litsen?--&lt;small&gt;[[User:lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;KayKay&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;|&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:purple&quot;&gt;Chat to me!&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 11:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::Well, Pronunciation is what admins can do when the wiki lets locked. also, wouldn't they need help adding 150 and more pokemon?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Pronunciation is conflicting. It isn't just hard work. For example, Bonsly was pronounced with an ē once, then with an ī in another time. One was in the movie, the other in the anime, I've just forgotten which. [[User:Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#CD7F32&quot;&gt;Turtwig's&lt;/font&gt;]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF7F00&quot;&gt;A-B-Cs&lt;/font&gt;]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#green&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/font&gt;]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#yellow&quot;&gt;contribs&lt;/font&gt;]]) 11:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::Oh Really? We All Know That Charmander is pronounced ''Chaar-man-der''. Easy Enough?? Just search on google for pokemon pronunciation.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Yeah, no Google searching, thanks. The official sources (Official Handbooks, Anime, and Video Games) don't always agree on pronunciations of Pokémon names. Now, if the official sources all agree at one point, then we will add them. But until then, they're not going on the species pages. - [[User:Kogoro|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DA70D6;&quot;&gt;'''&lt;sc&gt;Kogoro&lt;/sc&gt;'''&lt;/span&gt;]] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFB6C1;&quot;&gt;'''&lt;sc&gt;Talk to me&lt;/sc&gt;'''&lt;/span&gt;]] - 12:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> Okay Then. Moving to the next topic. What About Something at the Top of The Pokemon pics To Change the Picture into other generation art or to a Different form?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Most form changing Pokémon have their forms rotated based on the current time (see {{p|Arceus}}, then refresh the page). As for different generations, the infoboxes are set to display it on certain days—for example, on the anniversary of Red and Blue the Pokémon pages displayed their Red and Blue artwork (for those that have it). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Doesn't look like the servers are being nice ==<br /> <br /> No, I'm not geting 504s (or, if I am, FireFox is hiding them); I'm getting something even worse: pages not loading at all. A couple of days ago, I was going to come here to get a small amount of information, and it took ages to do so (so long in fact that I just got it O_O). I think the servers are being overstressed - despite the fact that I was getting good ping times off of 10 pings to the site's router (if there is one), I couldn't load any pages - not even robots.txt! That is just a simple text document, and it wouldn't even load! I would start the lockdown soon, as the closer to release we get, the more activity we are likely to get.<br /> <br /> I consider myself lucky I could even get on right now. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 06:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The fifth generation Pokemon are invading Bulbapedia and interfering with the system! I haven't actually noticed any problems yet though, which is strange. [[User:Taromon777|&lt;span style=&quot;color:turquoise; font-family:Arial&quot;&gt;'''T a r o m o n'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:38, 16 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Finally! ==<br /> <br /> as i mentioned Form changing above, We can use A method for pokemon with 2 different forms like giratina and shellos<br /> <br /> Method: All you guys saw Avatar, Everyone Saw. Now See The [http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com Avatar Wiki]'s Jake Sully Article. There is a button below the pic to change the Picture into Human/Avatar. We can use that Method.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 16:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :That's a really good idea actually, I think it would be better than the Pokemon's form just changing periodically. Perhaps now Bulbapedia is being upgraded for the fifth generation, it would be a convenient time for recoding the articles. [[User:Taromon777|&lt;span style=&quot;color:turquoise; font-family:Arial&quot;&gt;'''T a r o m o n'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::I dunno. Shaymin is also two formes, and changes with time. Shellos and Giratina, by the way, are not random. It's based on the hours. And unfortunately, that just changes the infobox picture; there are '''''several''''' things that change for forme changers. Unless your Ground-type moves miss against Altered Forme Giratina. What's that? They don't? But you can only use Earthquake five times? '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::Wikimon has a more extensive one that allows you to toggle the whole box, for example in the [http://wikimon.net/Agumon Agumon article], click the tabs. It even integrates the table of contents into it. Pretty clever. - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 04:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::see, only arceus has several things that needed to be changed. what about others?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::What about Mebukijika and Genesect (yes, Genesect has other formes (I think five or six?)) [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I also support the toggle idea. By the way, it has been mentioned in Arbok's Pokédex entries that it has at least six different patterns, of which two have appeared in official game art. Maybe it would be worthwhile to also toggle these two the same way? --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::I say we just stick with actual forme changes, and not include design differences between canons. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 14:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Metric tags in Pokédex entries ==<br /> All pokedex entries use the imperial units of measurement from the US translation. I suggest adding tags with the metric counterparts for two reasons:<br /> <br /> 1 - the original Japanese entries use metric units, so it could be seen as &quot;more canon&quot;.<br /> <br /> 2 - there are international users of Bulbapedia (me included) that are not used to imperial units.<br /> <br /> For example, the final sentence in Magneton's entry in Yellow could be: ''It raises the temperature by {{tt|3.6F degrees|2°C}} within {{tt|3,300 feet|1 km}}.''<br /> <br /> If the staff agrees, I'm willing to go through all Pokedex entries and add the metric values. I know enough Japanese to easily get the official values from the pokedex entries listed on the Japanese wiki, assuming those are correct.<br /> <br /> --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Metric system seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to include, it's merely a big job to go through ''everything'' and add the metric equivalent. Perhaps starting small, with say the Pokémon infobox only for now, and work our way up (every infobox should list the Pokémon's height and weight, so it's the most prominent use of the imperial system). Pokédex entries are also pretty simple, but I'd also say they're the less important area to work on (no complaints if you want to fix them all yourself, however). --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt; '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;''.cнаt'''''^'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 11:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Each Pokemon already have both their imperial and metric height and weight listed in their infobox, except for Generation 5, because their imperial values are not yet officially known. So pokedex entries are the most important area left to work on, as far as I can see. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 13:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Unless someone else has a big complaint about it, I don't see why you can't go ahead and update those, in that case. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt; '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;''.cнаt'''''^'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 14:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I have done 101 out of 493 for now. I may have missed a few in scanning all those entries. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 23:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Question? ==<br /> <br /> The option to write in the discussion for the Pokemon Black and White Versions isn't there. Are we not aloud to write there? --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 21:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah, but only if you're autoconfirmed, meaning you've been registered for a certain amount of time and have made a certain number of edits.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] &lt;small&gt;([[User talk:Cold|talk]])&lt;/small&gt; 21:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::OK thanks --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 22:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::What is the amount of time and important edits? [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 3D Artwork ==<br /> <br /> This is something that's been on my mind for a while now, but I couldn't bring it up due to the lockdown. Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to possibly include 3D images of Pokémon and Pokémon moves, like what's done for anime? It could be done in a seperate section or sub-section of the articles. Oh, and I don't mean updating every time a new 3D game comes out; I mean adding images for each time a move or Pokémon has appeared in a 3D game, like images of Pidgeot from its appearances in Pokémon Stadium through Pokémon Battle Revolution. I don't know if this has been brought up before, but is this notion a good idea?--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 00:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Although i don't know much, but taking 3D Pics will be hard and i don't think its a very good idea.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Well, I don't quite know how it's done, but you don't take 3D pics by using a camera or something. The quality of the 3D images here prove that.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 15:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Lylat Wiki ==<br /> <br /> [http://starfoxwiki.org/Lylat_Wiki Lylat Wiki] is now a part of NIWA, Oct 8th and 15th two others will be added, so might wanna add that to your NIWA bar ;] [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 17:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Main page design ==<br /> <br /> Does no one else think Tsutarja is missing?<br /> We have Bulbasaur, Treecko, Chikorita and Turtwig pics on the main page, but no Tsutarja (or victini if you want the first pokémon in the dex) I can feel it's absence when I look at the page. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 19:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :main page uses animated minisprites. we dont have Gen V animated minisprites. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;MAG&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#696969;&quot;&gt;NE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;DETH&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 19:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Yet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::I can ''Make'' Them Animate. but it wont we official, and Archives are currently blocked.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::I see. That's a little worrying because they're not animated on my screen. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 17:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::What browser are you running? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#444444&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C3C3C3&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::on chrome and IE they don't work, only firefox. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 12:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I've heard that they also work on Opera. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#444444&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C3C3C3&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 06:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Actually,there is a Tsutarja animated sprite Bulbagarden Archives, but there's no space for it. However, a Victini sprite has also been uploaded. [[User:Jlin8002|Jlin8002]] 00:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Jlin8002<br /> <br /> == Shiny Gen V Sprites ==<br /> <br /> I would like to know where we are going to put the shiny sprites for the fifth generation Pokémon. I have the sprites (official). [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :We have them, however we have yet to upload them. I guess I could do them today. --[[User:PsychicRider|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#78C850;&quot;&gt;'''Psy'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:PsychicRider|&lt;sub style=&quot;color:#F85888;&quot;&gt;'''ライダー'''&lt;/sub&gt;]]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C4E673;&quot;&gt;'''☮'''&lt;/span&gt;]]'' 11:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Translations ==<br /> <br /> This is a big job, and would probably be a bad idea, but could we translate Bulbapedia into other languages? I know that we already have basic translations of Pokémon and Moves, but what about the rest of it?----[[User:Chalkwriter|&lt;span style=&quot;color:green&quot;&gt;Chalk&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Chalkwriter|&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;writer&lt;/span&gt;]] 18:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :May I direct your attention [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis|here]] ''[[User:Maverick Nate|&lt;sup style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''Maverick'''&lt;/sup&gt;]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|&lt;sub style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''Nate'''&lt;/sub&gt;]]'' 18:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Clearer distinction between &quot;natural&quot; and Dream World abilities. ==<br /> <br /> I think the distinction between pokémon that only have certain abilities through the Pokémon Dream World and those that don't can be made clearer. For example, on pages of separate abilities there is just one table with normal and PDW pokémon all mixed up, while it would be easier to make separate tables for both. I think this would help both users that own Pokémon Black or White and those that don't. Besides that we could also make a category for &quot;Abilities exclusive to Pokémon Dream World&quot;, like {{a|Harvest}}. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 00:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :On the separate pages, they are specfically listed in a separate column that says &quot;Dream World ability&quot;. That seems separate enough. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|&lt;sup style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''Maverick'''&lt;/sup&gt;]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|&lt;sub style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''Nate'''&lt;/sub&gt;]]'' 00:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Yes, but I think it would be easier if for example you are looking for a pokémon that has a certain ability, that you don't have to go through a list of which half of the pokémon are Dream World pokémon. Even for Dream World users like me pokémon in wild and in Dream World are two completely separate things. But yeah, it's not that necessary. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Grammar error ==<br /> <br /> Being the Grammar Nazi I am, I have spotted an error I can't fix. I accidentally got logged out while editing a userpage, and I noticed there is a lack of space between sentences on the message that explains that new users cannot edit userpages. This is really bothering me, so could anyone with the power to edit the MediaWiki namespace fix it? [[User:CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Red&quot;&gt;Cu&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Tan&quot;&gt;bo&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Green color light&quot;&gt;ne&lt;/font&gt;]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|&lt;font color=&quot;Black&quot;&gt;King&lt;/font&gt;]] 02:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Done, I think. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 02:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Update on Message to the Editor ==<br /> <br /> [[Template:Main Page/Message from the Editor|'''This''']] should be updated, no? I think people would like to know it's been unlocked [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 02:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> : Very true, its more that a month old [[User:Ruberduck0123|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520 ;&quot;&gt;'''Ruber'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Ruberduck0123|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#999999 ;&quot;&gt;'''duck'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Ruberduck0123|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#4FD9FF ;&quot;&gt;'''0123'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:00, 23 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::It doesn't matter if it's five months old, he edits it when they have an announcement to make, he doesn't have to update it once a month people!! --[[User:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma;background:black&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;red&quot;&gt;'''Land'''&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma;background:black&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;yellow&quot;&gt;'''fish7'''&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 13:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Bulbanews ==<br /> <br /> I have a question : Can only staff members report news to bulbanews or can normal users also report --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 15:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Bulbanews is a different wiki altogether. Though they're both part of Bulbagarden, both Bulbapedia and Bulbanews have their own front pages. The information you're looking for is on Bulbanews's front page and if you have any other questions about it, it'd make sense to ask on that talk page rather than this one. [[n:Front page|here's a link, for convenience]] [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 20:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :What Kanjo said is correct, but to answer your question, anyone is allowed to report news to Bulbanews. After submission, an admin or columnist needs to move it out of the draft namespace and into the mainspace. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#444444&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C3C3C3&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 00:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Zoroark's Name ==<br /> <br /> I think the Ark in its name could be cause it can transform into lots of pokemon like an ark of pokemon and the reason i posted it here cause i cant post it on Zoroark's article . --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 16:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :First of all, if you can't post in an article, inquire in the article's talk page (i.e. [[Talk:Zoroark (Pokémon)]]), not Talk: Main Page. Secondly, that's a real stretch: that's not an actual definition of the word ark, it's just a vague metaphor. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&lt;sup&gt;P&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;K&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;M&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;N&lt;/sub&gt;]] 21:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Before you ask ==<br /> <br /> Read the news. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Is it for the Japanese anime writer? If so, I suppose Chimecho is more appropriate than Lugia, considering how the little windchime links to places like Mt. Pyre and Sendoff Spring. It can be in greyscale if desired. Besides, what is more favourable aesthetically is that one may include Chingling too, instead of Lugia all over the place. [[User:Rxhar|Rxhar]] 09:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::It's Lugia because the man is credited with helping to create it. It was on the news post. [[User:Tamah|Tamah]] 23:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Well, it was more than a week by now, someone could remember me who edits the main page? --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 16:14, 5 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == What'd I do wrong here? ==<br /> <br /> [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Starck]]<br /> <br /> ... What happened? [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Just create a page with &lt;nowiki&gt;{{subst:welcome}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#BF0B17&quot;&gt;ＤＥＮＮＯＵ&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#1250A6&quot;&gt;ＺＥＮＳＨＩ&lt;/font&gt;]] 13:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==EV Listings==<br /> <br /> I was just thinking of a very useful idea. On the pages for each route, cave, etc, where the wild Pokémon are listen, I was thinking we should add another column after each Pokémon and say &quot;1 Speed,&quot; or &quot;2 Attack,&quot; or something. That, paired with encounter and level rates would help a great deal in EV training for all different levels. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}<br /> :Well, I admit, this would be useful to some people, but this is an encyclopedia, not a walkthrough. Honestly, I don't see why you can't go to the Pokémon's page and check. I'm not for it, but I'm not exactly saying NO. --[[User:Si6x12|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B01406;&quot;&gt;'''Si6'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User Talk:Si6x12|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#083DA7;&quot;&gt;'''x12'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 03:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::I agree completely, however, it would be a nice little touch on the page for convenience. I'm not one of them, but I know some people have incredibly slow computers, and I can easily imagine the frustration of those who have slow connections along with a desire to EV train. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 14:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::I'm thinking no, but I do see a use in it. Perhaps {{bp|Project Walkthroughs}} would be a good place to ask. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 14:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Redirection Pages ==<br /> <br /> Do we really need those redirection pages with one Pokémon used by a character, the TCG link, and the Pokémon link? We already have the Pokémon used by a character and it's TCG links on the page. I understand the ones for like Pikachu, but ones like Mr. Mime and Gengar don't need to be there, do they? [[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 03:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :This is already being discussed on the forums, so please be patient. '''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Verdana;&quot;&gt;~ [[User:Sol|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0080ff;&quot;&gt;sol&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Sol|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#4090ff;&quot;&gt;ar&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#a8d3ff;&quot;&gt;is&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 03:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == What to do with Dream World artwork. ==<br /> <br /> Currently we use some to replace the Sugimori artwork, but what to do when said artwork is avaiable?. Sincerely i thing it would be a waste to just leave the DW artwork floating alone. Do you agree? We should do something with it.<br /> --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:06, 15 November 2010 (UTC) Sorry, forgot signature</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page/Archive_11&diff=1255268 2010-11-15T18:05:40Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* What to do with Dream World artwork. */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>This is the {{bp|talk page}} for the Bulbapedia's front page. If you have a general comment about the wiki, please consider placing it in [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 our forum].'''<br /> <br /> == Previous discussions ==<br /> <br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10|Archive 10]]<br /> <br /> == Pokémon cries? ==<br /> Should we add Pokémon cries to the Pokémon articles?--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :It's been tried before, but it caused too many problems. It would still probably cause too much problems now.--[[User:Pokelova|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''Poké''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Pokelova|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;lova!&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10#Pokémon Cries|This has been discussed to death already.]] &lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;—&lt;small&gt;♥&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;b&gt;[[User:Jello|&lt;span style=&quot;color:orange;&quot;&gt;Jello&lt;/span&gt;]][[User Talk:Jello|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3FA9D0;&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;talk&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/b&gt; 20:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::We're going to try to get them put in as soon as possible. They've been sitting in a directory on the server for... jeez, at least a year. Last time we tried to put them in, the server exploded. Archaic's been wary of doing it since then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::Just out of curiosity, what file format was used for the cries? That may have been the problem.--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Over at de:, we have mp3 with the following syntax: &lt;nowiki&gt;{{#mp3:http://www.greenchu.de/nakigoe/025.mp3}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;. I cannot figure out where that parser functions comes from, though.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] [[User talk:Afrael|&lt;sup&gt;talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:59, 20 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::::I think having the files like [http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/#music Floatzel.net] have their music files could work well. We might even eventually be able to put route/town/cave music on the pages!--[[User:Pokelova|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''Poké''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Pokelova|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;lova!&lt;/span&gt;]] 04:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Move Trivia ==<br /> <br /> Should there be a trivia section for moves? For instance, only one Pokémon can learn [[Steel Wing]] by leveling up.--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 16:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :There are for some moves, but not all of them have any notable trivia to add, so there is no sub heading. If you think of '''notable''' trivia, then add the sub-heading and put it in. Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|&lt;font color=&quot;Blue&quot;&gt;Sam&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Samjohn95|&lt;font color=&quot;Purple&quot;&gt;john&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|&lt;font color=&quot;Teal&quot;&gt;95&lt;/font&gt;]] 21:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Glitch Pokémon ==<br /> <br /> Hi there. I remember when I was around nine, I used to play Pokémon Gold &amp; Crystal, and I remember there was this cloning trick that could clone pokémon and the items that they held. Anyways, I began to notice if I did the right trick at a certain time, (or whatever it was, it has been a while) I managed to get a special type of Pokémon, the trainer. The trainer of course, had no moves and therefore could only struggle, but you could use TMs and everything. I remember having fun with that, but I can't find any info on this.&lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Bublador}} ([[User talk:Bublador|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bublador|contribs]]) ''&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> Try this page, all of the glitches are on [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Glitches#All_Generations]] and please sign your comment when you use these talk pages. thank you --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 19:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> I'm just thinking if on every Pokémon's page that we have their Pronunciation somewhere? like this:<br /> <br /> Say: Sin-da-qwil<br /> <br /> What do you think?--&lt;small&gt;[[User:lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;KayKay&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;|&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:purple&quot;&gt;Chat to me!&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 07:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :It's a good idea, but I believe we've had problems with adding pronunciations in the past because of people not agreeing on the &quot;correct&quot; pronunciation (also, sometimes there are conflicting pronunciations from different official sources) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#006400&quot;&gt;'''Zesty'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3CB371&quot;&gt;'''Cactus'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Oh oh then. I just though because some Pokémon I can't pronounce their names--&lt;small&gt;[[User:lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;KayKay&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;|&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:purple&quot;&gt;Chat to me!&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 07:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::If you have a look at the source of, say, Bulbasaur's page, you'll see this:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;{{PokémonInfobox|<br /> name=Bulbasaur |<br /> pron=&lt;sc&gt;''bul''-buh-sore&lt;/sc&gt; &lt;ref&gt;Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''. <br /> Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5&lt;/ref&gt; |<br /> jname=フシギダネ |<br /> tmname=Fushigidane |<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> the &quot;pron=&quot; parameter is not coded into the infobox, so it does appear. But it's there on every Pokemon's page. [[User:Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD733;&quot;&gt;'''たか'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520;&quot;&gt;'''はり'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B69E00;&quot;&gt;'''い'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Yes, it's coded in but because of the disagreements on pronunciation and no clear official source for many of them, it was decided to hide them all. If Nintendo or anyone ever releases an official pronunciation guide then we'll be able to put them back up. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 07:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::Is whatever the pronunciation is in the English dub of the anime (and similarly the pronunciation in the Japanese dub for those not yet released over here) not enough to justify it? With the exception of the odd time where they've actually changed the pronunciation during it e.g. Regice... '''[[User:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; face=&quot;Verdana&quot;&gt;TheChrisD&lt;/font&gt;]]''' &lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Rants&lt;/font&gt;]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Edits&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 13:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Artwork?! ==<br /> <br /> I hate to be the silly one who starts the &quot;What's going on?!!&quot; discussion, but seriously, why have all the pictures of the Generation I Pokémon been changed to the old Red and Green artwork? Is it for an aniversary or something? [[User:Taromon777|&lt;span style=&quot;color:turquoise; font-family:Arial&quot;&gt;'''T a r o m o n'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 10:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Yes. Anniversary of RB was yesterday, so Gen I Pokémon got Gen I art. But due to the server cache it took some a while to switch over, and I believe they should all be starting to switch back now, but again, that'll be whenever the server cache gets updated. &lt;sc&gt;[[User:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2D4B98;&quot;&gt;Werdnae&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sc&gt; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009000;&quot;&gt;(talk)&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 11:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Actually, maybe it could be put on a switch, like with Gastrodon's forms, so it could switch between old and new artwork periodically. How's that sound? &lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' &lt;/small&gt; 13:49, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::That's exactly what it did. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 22:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Oh, so it's still in effect? As in, like, permanently? Because that was what I was suggesting. &lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' &lt;/small&gt; 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::Yes, next year and on certain other days the site will have easter egg effects. Yaaaay for surprises. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 20:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I won't panic when the Gym Leader pictures are replaced by fan art then... [[User:Taromon777|&lt;span style=&quot;color:turquoise; font-family:Arial&quot;&gt;'''T a r o m o n'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == just a though... ==<br /> <br /> i realise this is probably in the wrong place, but, as unlocking the generation IV nationaldex and requesting a trade on the GTS require only seeing a particular species of pokémon, would it make sense to include a section explaining where to see them. (and i am aware that the GTS has only around a week left). I know that people (granted they are few) have had problems viewing unown and riolu in DP for example.--[[User:Mr-connor|Mr-connor]] 13:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :There is a section explaining where to see, and catch, Pokémon. It's right below the Pokédex Entries section.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 13:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> '''TYPHLOSION LV:50<br /> KINDRA LV:50<br /> ALAKAZAM LV:50<br /> LUGIA LV:45<br /> TYRANITAR LV:55<br /> DRAGONITE LV:57'''<br /> <br /> this is my current team for pokemon soulsilver...i think it has room for improvement.<br /> [[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)brandon strayhorn[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :This isn't the place to put this. Post it on the forums.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] &lt;small&gt;([[User talk:Cold|talk]])&lt;/small&gt; 21:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Bulbagarden Archives ==<br /> <br /> I have a problem that I keep sending the confirmation e-mail like every week but it doesn't show up. I'm saying it here because I haven't confirmed my e-mail on Archives. Someone please help me!!!!!!--&lt;small&gt;[[User:lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;KayKay&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;|&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:purple&quot;&gt;Chat to me!&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 10:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Have you checked it isn't getting caught by the spam filter on your email? Maybe check that the email address is right too? &lt;sc&gt;[[User:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2D4B98;&quot;&gt;Werdnae&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sc&gt; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009000;&quot;&gt;(talk)&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 10:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Thanks Wardnae, I accidentally wrote the wrong email.--&lt;small&gt;[[User:lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;KayKay&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;|&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:purple&quot;&gt;Chat to me!&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 23:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> == Sizes on Pokémon pages.. ==<br /> <br /> Something that's been bugging me for a while. I've been manually going around and resizing the main art boxes at the top of each Pokémon page so they all match each other and look uniform. However, many times box sizes will still be off by a few pixels. Would there be anyway to code something that keeps them all the same size? [http://i54.tinypic.com/28rcc53.png] is an example of what Ii'm talking about. Basically, the box that surrounds the art.&lt;span style=&quot;color:#90EE90&quot;&gt;~★&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;'''[[User:Cubic Question|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#40E0D0&quot;&gt;''cubic''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;[[User talk:Cubic Question|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00FFFF&quot;&gt;''QUESTION''&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 13:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Even if you make the width a certain size, the length will be different according to the size of the art. To get it uniform, you would have to make every file have some whitespace so it would be the same size. That won't happen though. The boxes don't really need to be uniform in size. &lt;sub style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''[[User:Blake|Blake]]'''&lt;/sub&gt; &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]]&lt;/sup&gt; 20:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Litsen... ==<br /> <br /> First of all, I have a idea of a section in the pokemon's main page. Footprint. It'll be good. also, the Pronunciation topic above^^. We can take Right pronunciation from [http://pokemon.wikia.com/ Pokemon Wiki]. I know its cheating, but, Ill help us. --[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :The footprint is already in each Pokémon's infobox. And, we already discussed that the pronunciation caused conflict, and the Pokémon Wiki is far from a reliable source. So we probably won't be adding the pronunciation to each's Pokémon's page. [[User:Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD733;&quot;&gt;'''たか'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520;&quot;&gt;'''はり'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B69E00;&quot;&gt;'''い'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::By the way I think you were trying to say Listen not Litsen?--&lt;small&gt;[[User:lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;KayKay&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;|&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:purple&quot;&gt;Chat to me!&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 11:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::Well, Pronunciation is what admins can do when the wiki lets locked. also, wouldn't they need help adding 150 and more pokemon?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Pronunciation is conflicting. It isn't just hard work. For example, Bonsly was pronounced with an ē once, then with an ī in another time. One was in the movie, the other in the anime, I've just forgotten which. [[User:Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#CD7F32&quot;&gt;Turtwig's&lt;/font&gt;]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF7F00&quot;&gt;A-B-Cs&lt;/font&gt;]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#green&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/font&gt;]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#yellow&quot;&gt;contribs&lt;/font&gt;]]) 11:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::Oh Really? We All Know That Charmander is pronounced ''Chaar-man-der''. Easy Enough?? Just search on google for pokemon pronunciation.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Yeah, no Google searching, thanks. The official sources (Official Handbooks, Anime, and Video Games) don't always agree on pronunciations of Pokémon names. Now, if the official sources all agree at one point, then we will add them. But until then, they're not going on the species pages. - [[User:Kogoro|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DA70D6;&quot;&gt;'''&lt;sc&gt;Kogoro&lt;/sc&gt;'''&lt;/span&gt;]] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFB6C1;&quot;&gt;'''&lt;sc&gt;Talk to me&lt;/sc&gt;'''&lt;/span&gt;]] - 12:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> Okay Then. Moving to the next topic. What About Something at the Top of The Pokemon pics To Change the Picture into other generation art or to a Different form?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Most form changing Pokémon have their forms rotated based on the current time (see {{p|Arceus}}, then refresh the page). As for different generations, the infoboxes are set to display it on certain days—for example, on the anniversary of Red and Blue the Pokémon pages displayed their Red and Blue artwork (for those that have it). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Doesn't look like the servers are being nice ==<br /> <br /> No, I'm not geting 504s (or, if I am, FireFox is hiding them); I'm getting something even worse: pages not loading at all. A couple of days ago, I was going to come here to get a small amount of information, and it took ages to do so (so long in fact that I just got it O_O). I think the servers are being overstressed - despite the fact that I was getting good ping times off of 10 pings to the site's router (if there is one), I couldn't load any pages - not even robots.txt! That is just a simple text document, and it wouldn't even load! I would start the lockdown soon, as the closer to release we get, the more activity we are likely to get.<br /> <br /> I consider myself lucky I could even get on right now. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 06:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The fifth generation Pokemon are invading Bulbapedia and interfering with the system! I haven't actually noticed any problems yet though, which is strange. [[User:Taromon777|&lt;span style=&quot;color:turquoise; font-family:Arial&quot;&gt;'''T a r o m o n'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:38, 16 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Finally! ==<br /> <br /> as i mentioned Form changing above, We can use A method for pokemon with 2 different forms like giratina and shellos<br /> <br /> Method: All you guys saw Avatar, Everyone Saw. Now See The [http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com Avatar Wiki]'s Jake Sully Article. There is a button below the pic to change the Picture into Human/Avatar. We can use that Method.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 16:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :That's a really good idea actually, I think it would be better than the Pokemon's form just changing periodically. Perhaps now Bulbapedia is being upgraded for the fifth generation, it would be a convenient time for recoding the articles. [[User:Taromon777|&lt;span style=&quot;color:turquoise; font-family:Arial&quot;&gt;'''T a r o m o n'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::I dunno. Shaymin is also two formes, and changes with time. Shellos and Giratina, by the way, are not random. It's based on the hours. And unfortunately, that just changes the infobox picture; there are '''''several''''' things that change for forme changers. Unless your Ground-type moves miss against Altered Forme Giratina. What's that? They don't? But you can only use Earthquake five times? '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::Wikimon has a more extensive one that allows you to toggle the whole box, for example in the [http://wikimon.net/Agumon Agumon article], click the tabs. It even integrates the table of contents into it. Pretty clever. - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 04:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::see, only arceus has several things that needed to be changed. what about others?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::What about Mebukijika and Genesect (yes, Genesect has other formes (I think five or six?)) [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I also support the toggle idea. By the way, it has been mentioned in Arbok's Pokédex entries that it has at least six different patterns, of which two have appeared in official game art. Maybe it would be worthwhile to also toggle these two the same way? --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::I say we just stick with actual forme changes, and not include design differences between canons. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 14:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Metric tags in Pokédex entries ==<br /> All pokedex entries use the imperial units of measurement from the US translation. I suggest adding tags with the metric counterparts for two reasons:<br /> <br /> 1 - the original Japanese entries use metric units, so it could be seen as &quot;more canon&quot;.<br /> <br /> 2 - there are international users of Bulbapedia (me included) that are not used to imperial units.<br /> <br /> For example, the final sentence in Magneton's entry in Yellow could be: ''It raises the temperature by {{tt|3.6F degrees|2°C}} within {{tt|3,300 feet|1 km}}.''<br /> <br /> If the staff agrees, I'm willing to go through all Pokedex entries and add the metric values. I know enough Japanese to easily get the official values from the pokedex entries listed on the Japanese wiki, assuming those are correct.<br /> <br /> --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Metric system seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to include, it's merely a big job to go through ''everything'' and add the metric equivalent. Perhaps starting small, with say the Pokémon infobox only for now, and work our way up (every infobox should list the Pokémon's height and weight, so it's the most prominent use of the imperial system). Pokédex entries are also pretty simple, but I'd also say they're the less important area to work on (no complaints if you want to fix them all yourself, however). --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt; '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;''.cнаt'''''^'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 11:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Each Pokemon already have both their imperial and metric height and weight listed in their infobox, except for Generation 5, because their imperial values are not yet officially known. So pokedex entries are the most important area left to work on, as far as I can see. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 13:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Unless someone else has a big complaint about it, I don't see why you can't go ahead and update those, in that case. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt; '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;''.cнаt'''''^'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 14:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I have done 101 out of 493 for now. I may have missed a few in scanning all those entries. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 23:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Question? ==<br /> <br /> The option to write in the discussion for the Pokemon Black and White Versions isn't there. Are we not aloud to write there? --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 21:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah, but only if you're autoconfirmed, meaning you've been registered for a certain amount of time and have made a certain number of edits.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] &lt;small&gt;([[User talk:Cold|talk]])&lt;/small&gt; 21:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::OK thanks --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 22:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::What is the amount of time and important edits? [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 3D Artwork ==<br /> <br /> This is something that's been on my mind for a while now, but I couldn't bring it up due to the lockdown. Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to possibly include 3D images of Pokémon and Pokémon moves, like what's done for anime? It could be done in a seperate section or sub-section of the articles. Oh, and I don't mean updating every time a new 3D game comes out; I mean adding images for each time a move or Pokémon has appeared in a 3D game, like images of Pidgeot from its appearances in Pokémon Stadium through Pokémon Battle Revolution. I don't know if this has been brought up before, but is this notion a good idea?--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 00:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Although i don't know much, but taking 3D Pics will be hard and i don't think its a very good idea.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Well, I don't quite know how it's done, but you don't take 3D pics by using a camera or something. The quality of the 3D images here prove that.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 15:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Lylat Wiki ==<br /> <br /> [http://starfoxwiki.org/Lylat_Wiki Lylat Wiki] is now a part of NIWA, Oct 8th and 15th two others will be added, so might wanna add that to your NIWA bar ;] [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 17:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Main page design ==<br /> <br /> Does no one else think Tsutarja is missing?<br /> We have Bulbasaur, Treecko, Chikorita and Turtwig pics on the main page, but no Tsutarja (or victini if you want the first pokémon in the dex) I can feel it's absence when I look at the page. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 19:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :main page uses animated minisprites. we dont have Gen V animated minisprites. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;MAG&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#696969;&quot;&gt;NE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;DETH&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 19:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Yet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::I can ''Make'' Them Animate. but it wont we official, and Archives are currently blocked.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::I see. That's a little worrying because they're not animated on my screen. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 17:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::What browser are you running? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#444444&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C3C3C3&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::on chrome and IE they don't work, only firefox. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 12:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I've heard that they also work on Opera. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#444444&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C3C3C3&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 06:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Actually,there is a Tsutarja animated sprite Bulbagarden Archives, but there's no space for it. However, a Victini sprite has also been uploaded. [[User:Jlin8002|Jlin8002]] 00:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Jlin8002<br /> <br /> == Shiny Gen V Sprites ==<br /> <br /> I would like to know where we are going to put the shiny sprites for the fifth generation Pokémon. I have the sprites (official). [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :We have them, however we have yet to upload them. I guess I could do them today. --[[User:PsychicRider|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#78C850;&quot;&gt;'''Psy'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:PsychicRider|&lt;sub style=&quot;color:#F85888;&quot;&gt;'''ライダー'''&lt;/sub&gt;]]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C4E673;&quot;&gt;'''☮'''&lt;/span&gt;]]'' 11:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Translations ==<br /> <br /> This is a big job, and would probably be a bad idea, but could we translate Bulbapedia into other languages? I know that we already have basic translations of Pokémon and Moves, but what about the rest of it?----[[User:Chalkwriter|&lt;span style=&quot;color:green&quot;&gt;Chalk&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Chalkwriter|&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;writer&lt;/span&gt;]] 18:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :May I direct your attention [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis|here]] ''[[User:Maverick Nate|&lt;sup style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''Maverick'''&lt;/sup&gt;]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|&lt;sub style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''Nate'''&lt;/sub&gt;]]'' 18:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Clearer distinction between &quot;natural&quot; and Dream World abilities. ==<br /> <br /> I think the distinction between pokémon that only have certain abilities through the Pokémon Dream World and those that don't can be made clearer. For example, on pages of separate abilities there is just one table with normal and PDW pokémon all mixed up, while it would be easier to make separate tables for both. I think this would help both users that own Pokémon Black or White and those that don't. Besides that we could also make a category for &quot;Abilities exclusive to Pokémon Dream World&quot;, like {{a|Harvest}}. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 00:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :On the separate pages, they are specfically listed in a separate column that says &quot;Dream World ability&quot;. That seems separate enough. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|&lt;sup style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''Maverick'''&lt;/sup&gt;]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|&lt;sub style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''Nate'''&lt;/sub&gt;]]'' 00:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Yes, but I think it would be easier if for example you are looking for a pokémon that has a certain ability, that you don't have to go through a list of which half of the pokémon are Dream World pokémon. Even for Dream World users like me pokémon in wild and in Dream World are two completely separate things. But yeah, it's not that necessary. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Grammar error ==<br /> <br /> Being the Grammar Nazi I am, I have spotted an error I can't fix. I accidentally got logged out while editing a userpage, and I noticed there is a lack of space between sentences on the message that explains that new users cannot edit userpages. This is really bothering me, so could anyone with the power to edit the MediaWiki namespace fix it? [[User:CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Red&quot;&gt;Cu&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Tan&quot;&gt;bo&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Green color light&quot;&gt;ne&lt;/font&gt;]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|&lt;font color=&quot;Black&quot;&gt;King&lt;/font&gt;]] 02:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Done, I think. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 02:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Update on Message to the Editor ==<br /> <br /> [[Template:Main Page/Message from the Editor|'''This''']] should be updated, no? I think people would like to know it's been unlocked [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 02:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> : Very true, its more that a month old [[User:Ruberduck0123|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520 ;&quot;&gt;'''Ruber'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Ruberduck0123|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#999999 ;&quot;&gt;'''duck'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Ruberduck0123|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#4FD9FF ;&quot;&gt;'''0123'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:00, 23 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::It doesn't matter if it's five months old, he edits it when they have an announcement to make, he doesn't have to update it once a month people!! --[[User:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma;background:black&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;red&quot;&gt;'''Land'''&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma;background:black&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;yellow&quot;&gt;'''fish7'''&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 13:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Bulbanews ==<br /> <br /> I have a question : Can only staff members report news to bulbanews or can normal users also report --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 15:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Bulbanews is a different wiki altogether. Though they're both part of Bulbagarden, both Bulbapedia and Bulbanews have their own front pages. The information you're looking for is on Bulbanews's front page and if you have any other questions about it, it'd make sense to ask on that talk page rather than this one. [[n:Front page|here's a link, for convenience]] [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 20:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :What Kanjo said is correct, but to answer your question, anyone is allowed to report news to Bulbanews. After submission, an admin or columnist needs to move it out of the draft namespace and into the mainspace. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#444444&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C3C3C3&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 00:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Zoroark's Name ==<br /> <br /> I think the Ark in its name could be cause it can transform into lots of pokemon like an ark of pokemon and the reason i posted it here cause i cant post it on Zoroark's article . --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 16:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :First of all, if you can't post in an article, inquire in the article's talk page (i.e. [[Talk:Zoroark (Pokémon)]]), not Talk: Main Page. Secondly, that's a real stretch: that's not an actual definition of the word ark, it's just a vague metaphor. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&lt;sup&gt;P&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;K&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;M&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;N&lt;/sub&gt;]] 21:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Before you ask ==<br /> <br /> Read the news. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Is it for the Japanese anime writer? If so, I suppose Chimecho is more appropriate than Lugia, considering how the little windchime links to places like Mt. Pyre and Sendoff Spring. It can be in greyscale if desired. Besides, what is more favourable aesthetically is that one may include Chingling too, instead of Lugia all over the place. [[User:Rxhar|Rxhar]] 09:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::It's Lugia because the man is credited with helping to create it. It was on the news post. [[User:Tamah|Tamah]] 23:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Well, it was more than a week by now, someone could remember me who edits the main page? --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 16:14, 5 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == What'd I do wrong here? ==<br /> <br /> [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Starck]]<br /> <br /> ... What happened? [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Just create a page with &lt;nowiki&gt;{{subst:welcome}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#BF0B17&quot;&gt;ＤＥＮＮＯＵ&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#1250A6&quot;&gt;ＺＥＮＳＨＩ&lt;/font&gt;]] 13:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==EV Listings==<br /> <br /> I was just thinking of a very useful idea. On the pages for each route, cave, etc, where the wild Pokémon are listen, I was thinking we should add another column after each Pokémon and say &quot;1 Speed,&quot; or &quot;2 Attack,&quot; or something. That, paired with encounter and level rates would help a great deal in EV training for all different levels. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}<br /> :Well, I admit, this would be useful to some people, but this is an encyclopedia, not a walkthrough. Honestly, I don't see why you can't go to the Pokémon's page and check. I'm not for it, but I'm not exactly saying NO. --[[User:Si6x12|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B01406;&quot;&gt;'''Si6'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User Talk:Si6x12|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#083DA7;&quot;&gt;'''x12'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 03:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::I agree completely, however, it would be a nice little touch on the page for convenience. I'm not one of them, but I know some people have incredibly slow computers, and I can easily imagine the frustration of those who have slow connections along with a desire to EV train. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 14:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::I'm thinking no, but I do see a use in it. Perhaps {{bp|Project Walkthroughs}} would be a good place to ask. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 14:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Redirection Pages ==<br /> <br /> Do we really need those redirection pages with one Pokémon used by a character, the TCG link, and the Pokémon link? We already have the Pokémon used by a character and it's TCG links on the page. I understand the ones for like Pikachu, but ones like Mr. Mime and Gengar don't need to be there, do they? [[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 03:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :This is already being discussed on the forums, so please be patient. '''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Verdana;&quot;&gt;~ [[User:Sol|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0080ff;&quot;&gt;sol&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Sol|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#4090ff;&quot;&gt;ar&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#a8d3ff;&quot;&gt;is&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 03:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == What to do with Dream World artwork. ==<br /> <br /> Currently we use some to replace the Sugimori artwork, but what to do when said artwork is avaiable?. Sincerely i thing it would be a waste to just leave the DW artwork floating alone. Do you agree? We should do something with it.</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=In-game_trade&diff=1247920 2010-11-07T19:58:36Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* Trivia */</p> <hr /> <div>{{incomplete|needs=JpBlue nicknames, IVs in post-Gen I games, and enhanced contest stats}}<br /> An '''in-game trade''' is a [[trade]] made with a [[non-player character]] within the course of a [[main series]] Pokémon game. They are usually for Pokémon that are difficult or impossible to obtain through other means, or for Pokémon unavailable at that point of the game. In later games, the traded Pokémon often has special moves, like [[egg move]]s.<br /> <br /> The Trainer conducting the in-game trade will&amp;mdash;in every case but one&amp;mdash;specify a Pokémon they want to trade for. The Pokémon the player receives in the trade will have fixed [[Original Trainer|OT]] and [[Trainer ID|ID]] numbers; in later games the [[held item]]s, [[natures]], and [[IVs]] are fixed as well. Each Pokémon, likewise, has a [[nickname]], and will be at the same level as the Pokémon given by the player (except in {{Pokémon XD}}).<br /> <br /> Like Pokémon traded externally, the traded Pokémon will be treated as an &quot;{{pkmn2|outsider}}&quot;, and gain a boosted amount of [[experience|experience points]] in battle. <br /> <br /> The following is a list of all in-game trades in all generations.<br /> <br /> ==[[Generation I]]==<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #{{red color}}; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 3px solid #{{blue color}};&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! {{color2|{{red color dark}}|Pokémon Red and Green Versions|Red and Green (Japan) /}} {{color2|{{red color dark}}|Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|Red and Blue (International)}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;border: 1px solid #{{red color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;2&quot;<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{green color}};&quot;<br /> ! {{color|{{green color dark}}|Location}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{color|{{green color dark}}|Player's Pokémon}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{color|{{green color dark}}|Traded Pokémon}}<br /> ! {{color|{{green color dark}}|Nickname}}<br /> ! {{color|{{green color dark}}|OT}}<br /> ! {{color|{{green color dark}}|ID}}<br /> ! {{color|{{green color dark}}|IVs}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | {{rt|2|Kanto}}<br /> | {{MS|063|Abra (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Abra}}<br /> | {{MS|122|Mr. Mime (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Mr. Mime}}<br /> | MARCEL<br /> | TRAINER<br /> | Random<br /> | Random<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | {{rt|5|Kanto}}<br /> | {{MS|032|Nidoran♂ (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Nidoran♂}}<br /> | {{MS|029|Nidoran♀ (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Nidoran♀}}<br /> | SPOT<br /> | TRAINER<br /> | Random<br /> | Random<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | {{rt|11|Kanto}}<br /> | {{MS|033|Nidorino (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Nidorino}}<br /> | {{MS|030|Nidorina (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Nidorina}}<br /> | TERRY<br /> | TRAINER<br /> | Random<br /> | Random<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | {{rt|18|Kanto}}<br /> | {{MS|080|Slowbro (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Slowbro}}<br /> | {{MS|108|Lickitung (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Lickitung}}<br /> | MARC<br /> | TRAINER<br /> | Random<br /> | Random<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Cerulean City]]<br /> | {{MS|061|Poliwhirl (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Poliwhirl}}<br /> | {{MS|124|Jynx (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Jynx}}<br /> | LOLA<br /> | TRAINER<br /> | Random<br /> | Random<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Vermilion City]]<br /> | {{MS|021|Spearow (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Spearow}}<br /> | {{MS|083|Farfetch'd (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Farfetch'd}}<br /> | DUX<br /> | TRAINER<br /> | Random<br /> | Random<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Cinnabar Island]]<br /> | {{MS|026|Raichu (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Raichu}}<br /> | {{MS|101|Electrode (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Electrode}}<br /> | DORIS<br /> | TRAINER<br /> | Random<br /> | Random<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Cinnabar Island]]<br /> | {{MS|048|Venonat (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Venonat}}<br /> | {{MS|114|Tangela (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Tangela}}<br /> | CRINKLES<br /> | TRAINER<br /> | Random<br /> | Random<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Cinnabar Island]]<br /> | {{MS|077|Ponyta (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Ponyta}}<br /> | {{MS|086|Seel (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Seel}}<br /> | SAILOR<br /> | TRAINER<br /> | Random<br /> | Random<br /> |}<br /> |}<br /> {{-}}<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #{{blue color}}; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 3px solid #{{blue color light}};&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! {{color2|{{blue color dark}}|Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|Blue (Japan)}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;border: 1px solid #{{blue color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;2&quot;<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{blue color light}};&quot;<br /> ! {{color|{{blue color}}|Location}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{color|{{blue color}}|Player's Pokémon}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{color|{{blue color}}|Traded Pokémon}}<br /> ! {{color|{{blue color}}|Nickname}}&lt;!--lets find these, k?--&gt;<br /> ! {{color|{{blue color}}|OT}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | {{rt|2|Kanto}}<br /> | {{MS|039|Jigglypuff (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Jigglypuff}}<br /> | {{MS|122|Mr. Mime (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Mr. Mime}}<br /> | <br /> | トレーナー<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | {{rt|5|Kanto}}<br /> | {{MS|019|Rattata (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Rattata}}<br /> | {{MS|060|Poliwag (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Poliwag}}<br /> | ロモたん<br /> | トレーナー<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | {{rt|11|Kanto}}<br /> | {{MS|112|Rhydon (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Rhydon}}<br /> | {{MS|115|Kangaskhan (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Kangaskhan}}<br /> | <br /> | トレーナー<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | {{rt|18|Kanto}}<br /> | {{MS|053|Persian (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Persian}}<br /> | {{MS|128|Tauros (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Tauros}}<br /> | <br /> | トレーナー<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Cerulean City]]<br /> | {{MS|067|Machoke (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Machoke}}<br /> | {{MS|093|Haunter (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Haunter}}<br /> | <br /> | トレーナー<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Vermilion City]]<br /> | {{MS|016|Pidgey (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Pidgey}}<br /> | {{MS|083|Farfetch'd (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Farfetch'd}}<br /> | アッカ<br /> | トレーナー<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Cinnabar Island]]<br /> | {{MS|064|Kadabra (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Kadabra}}<br /> | {{MS|075|Graveler (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Graveler}}<br /> | <br /> | トレーナー<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Cinnabar Island]]<br /> | {{MS|086|Seel (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Seel}}<br /> | {{MS|079|Slowpoke (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Slowpoke}}<br /> | <br /> | トレーナー<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Cinnabar Island]]<br /> | {{MS|058|Growlithe (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Growlithe}}<br /> | {{MS|098|Krabby (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Krabby}}<br /> | <br /> | トレーナー<br /> |}<br /> |}<br /> {{-}}<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #{{yellow color}}; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 3px solid #{{yellow color light}};&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! {{color2|{{yellow color dark}}|Pokémon Yellow Version|Yellow}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;border: 1px solid #{{yellow color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;2&quot;<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{yellow color light}};&quot;<br /> ! {{color|{{yellow color dark}}|Location}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{color|{{yellow color dark}}|Player's Pokémon}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{color|{{yellow color dark}}|Traded Pokémon}}<br /> ! {{color|{{yellow color dark}}|Nickname}}<br /> ! {{color|{{yellow color dark}}|OT}}<br /> ! {{color|{{yellow color dark}}|ID}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | {{rt|2|Kanto}}<br /> | {{MS|035|Clefairy (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Clefairy}}<br /> | {{MS|122|Mr. Mime (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Mr. Mime}}<br /> | MILES<br /> | TRAINER<br /> | Random<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | {{rt|5|Kanto}}<br /> | {{MS|104|Cubone (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Cubone}}<br /> | {{MS|067|Machoke (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Machoke}}<br /> | RICKY<br /> | TRAINER<br /> | Random<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | {{rt|11|Kanto}}<br /> | {{MS|108|Lickitung (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Lickitung}}<br /> | {{MS|051|Dugtrio (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Dugtrio}}<br /> | GURIO<br /> | TRAINER<br /> | Random<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | {{rt|18|Kanto}}<br /> | {{MS|114|Tangela (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Tangela}}<br /> | {{MS|047|Parasect (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Parasect}}<br /> | SPIKE<br /> | TRAINER<br /> | Random<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Cinnabar Island]]<br /> | {{MS|055|Golduck (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Golduck}}<br /> | {{MS|112|Rhydon (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Rhydon}}<br /> | BUFFY<br /> | TRAINER<br /> | Random<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Cinnabar Island]]<br /> | {{MS|058|Growlithe (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Growlithe}}<br /> | {{MS|087|Dewgong (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Dewgong}}<br /> | CEZANNE<br /> | TRAINER<br /> | Random<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Cinnabar Island]]<br /> | {{MS|115|Kangaskhan (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Kangaskhan}}<br /> | {{MS|089|Muk (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Muk}}<br /> | STICKY<br /> | TRAINER<br /> | Random<br /> |}<br /> |}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==[[Generation II]]==<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #{{gold color}}; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 3px solid #{{silver color}};&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! {{color2|{{gold color dark}}|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Gold and Silver}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;border: 1px solid #{{gold color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;2&quot;<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{silver color}};&quot;<br /> ! {{color|{{silver color dark}}|Location}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{color|{{silver color dark}}|Player's Pokémon}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{color|{{silver color dark}}|Traded Pokémon}}<br /> ! {{color|{{silver color dark}}|Nickname}}<br /> ! {{color|{{silver color dark}}|Item}}<br /> ! {{color|{{silver color dark}}|OT}}<br /> ! {{color|{{silver color dark}}|ID}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Violet City]]<br /> | {{MS|069|Bellsprout (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Bellsprout}}<br /> | {{MS|095|Onix (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Onix}}<br /> | ROCKY<br /> | [[Bitter Berry]]<br /> | KYLE<br /> | 48926<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Goldenrod City]]<br /> | {{MS|096|Drowzee (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Drowzee}}<br /> | {{MS|066|Machop (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Machop}}<br /> | MUSCLE<br /> | [[Gold Berry]]<br /> | MIKE<br /> | 37460<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Olivine City]]<br /> | {{MS|098|Krabby (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Krabby}}<br /> | {{MS|100|Voltorb (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Voltorb}}<br /> | VOLTY<br /> | [[PRZCureBerry]]<br /> | TIM<br /> | 29189<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Blackthorn City]]<br /> | {{MS|148|Dragonair (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Dragonair}}♀<br /> | {{MS|112|Rhydon (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Rhydon}}<br /> | DON<br /> | [[Bitter Berry]]<br /> | EMY<br /> | 00283<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | {{rt|14|Kanto}}<br /> | {{MS|113|Chansey (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Chansey}}<br /> | {{MS|142|Aerodactyl (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Aerodactyl}}<br /> | AEROY<br /> | [[Gold Berry]]<br /> | KIM<br /> | 26491<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Pewter City]]<br /> | {{MS|044|Gloom (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Gloom}}<br /> | {{MS|078|Rapidash (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Rapidash}}<br /> | RUNNY<br /> | [[Burnt Berry]]<br /> | CHRIS<br /> | 15616<br /> |}<br /> |}<br /> {{-}}<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #{{crystal color}}; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 3px solid #{{crystal color light}};&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! {{color2|{{crystal color dark}}|Pokémon Crystal Version|Crystal}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;border: 1px solid #{{crystal color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;2&quot;<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{crystal color light}};&quot;<br /> ! {{color|{{crystal color dark}}|Location}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{color|{{crystal color dark}}|Player's Pokémon}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{color|{{crystal color dark}}|Traded Pokémon}}<br /> ! {{color|{{crystal color dark}}|Nickname}}<br /> ! {{color|{{crystal color dark}}|Item}}<br /> ! {{color|{{crystal color dark}}|OT}}<br /> ! {{color|{{crystal color dark}}|ID}}<br /> ! {{tt|{{color|{{crystal color dark}}|IVs}}|Attack/Defense/Speed/Special}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Violet City]]<br /> | {{MS|069|Bellsprout (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Bellsprout}}<br /> | {{MS|095|Onix (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Onix}}<br /> | ROCKY<br /> | [[Bitter Berry]]<br /> | KYLE<br /> | 48926<br /> | 9/6/6/6<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Goldenrod City]]<br /> | {{MS|063|Abra (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Abra}}<br /> | {{MS|066|Machop (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Machop}}<br /> | MUSCLE<br /> | [[Gold Berry]]<br /> | MIKE<br /> | 37460<br /> | 3/7/6/6<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Olivine City]]<br /> | {{MS|098|Krabby (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Krabby}}<br /> | {{MS|100|Voltorb (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Voltorb}}<br /> | VOLTY<br /> | [[PRZCureBerry]]<br /> | TIM<br /> | 29189<br /> | 9/8/8/8<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Blackthorn City]]<br /> | {{MS|148|Dragonair (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Dragonair}}♀<br /> | {{MS|085|Dodrio (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Dodrio}}<br /> | DORIS<br /> | [[Smoke Ball]]<br /> | EMY<br /> | 00283<br /> | 7/7/6/6<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | {{rt|14|Kanto}}<br /> | {{MS|113|Chansey (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Chansey}}<br /> | {{MS|142|Aerodactyl (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Aerodactyl}}<br /> | AEROY<br /> | [[Gold Berry]]<br /> | KIM<br /> | 26491<br /> | 9/6/6/6<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Pewter City]]<br /> | {{MS|093|Haunter (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Haunter}}<br /> | {{MS|178|Xatu (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Xatu}}<br /> | PAUL<br /> | [[MysteryBerry]]<br /> | CHRIS<br /> | 15616<br /> | 9/6/8/6<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Power Plant]]<br /> | {{MS|051|Dugtrio (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Dugtrio}}<br /> | {{MS|082|Magneton (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Magneton}}<br /> | MAGGIE<br /> | [[Metal Coat]]<br /> | FOREST<br /> | 50082<br /> | 9/6/6/6<br /> |}<br /> |}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==[[Generation III]]==<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #{{ruby color}}; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 3px solid #{{sapphire color}};&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! {{color2|{{ruby color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby and Sapphire}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;border: 1px solid #{{ruby color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;2&quot;<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{sapphire color light}};&quot;<br /> ! {{color|{{sapphire color dark}}|Location}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{color|{{sapphire color dark}}|Player's Pokémon}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{color|{{sapphire color dark}}|Traded Pokémon}}<br /> ! {{color|{{sapphire color dark}}|Nickname}}<br /> ! {{color|{{sapphire color dark}}|Item}}<br /> ! {{color|{{sapphire color dark}}|Nature}}<br /> ! {{color|{{sapphire color dark}}|OT}}<br /> ! {{color|{{sapphire color dark}}|ID}}<br /> ! {{color|{{sapphire color dark}}|Contest stat&lt;br&gt;enhanced}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Rustboro City]]<br /> | {{MS|287|Slakoth (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Slakoth}}<br /> | {{MS|296|Makuhita (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Makuhita}} {{male}}<br /> | MAKIT<br /> | [[X Attack]]<br /> | Hardy<br /> | ELYSSA<br /> | 49562<br /> {{Contesttable|Tough}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Fortree City]]<br /> | {{MS|025|Pikachu (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Pikachu}}<br /> | {{MS|300|Skitty (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Skitty}} {{female}}<br /> | SKITIT<br /> | [[Glitter Mail]]<br /> | Timid<br /> | DARRELL<br /> | 02259<br /> {{Contesttable|Cute}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Pacifidlog Town]]<br /> | {{MS|182|Bellossom (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Bellossom}}<br /> | {{MS|222|Corsola (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Corsola}} {{female}}<br /> | COROSO<br /> | [[Tropic Mail]]<br /> | Calm<br /> | LANE<br /> | 50183<br /> {{Contesttable|Beauty}}<br /> |}<br /> |}<br /> {{-}}<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #{{firered color}}; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 3px solid #{{leafgreen color}};&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! {{color2|{{firered color dark}}|Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FireRed and LeafGreen}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;border: 1px solid #{{firered color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;2&quot;<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{leafgreen color}};&quot;<br /> ! {{color|{{leafgreen color dark}}|Location}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{color|{{leafgreen color dark}}|Player's Pokémon}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{color|{{leafgreen color dark}}|Traded Pokémon}}<br /> ! {{color|{{leafgreen color dark}}|Nickname}}<br /> ! {{color|{{leafgreen color dark}}|Item}}<br /> ! {{color|{{leafgreen color dark}}|Nature}}<br /> ! {{color|{{leafgreen color dark}}|OT}}<br /> ! {{color|{{leafgreen color dark}}|ID}}<br /> ! {{tt|{{color|{{leafgreen color dark}}|IVs}}|HP/Attack/Defense/Speed/Sp. Atk/Sp. Def}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | {{rt|2|Kanto}}<br /> | {{MS|063|Abra (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Abra}}<br /> | {{MS|122|Mr. Mime (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Mr. Mime}} {{male}}<br /> | MIMIEN<br /> | <br /> | Timid<br /> | REYLEY<br /> | 01985<br /> | 20/15/17/24/23/22<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{firered color light}}&quot;<br /> | {{rt|5|Kanto}}<br /> | {{MS|032|Nidoran♂ (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Nidoran♂}}<br /> | {{MS|029|Nidoran♀ (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Nidoran♀}}<br /> | MS.NIDO<br /> | [[TinyMushroom]]<br /> | Bold<br /> | SAIGE<br /> | 63184<br /> | 26/10/15/12/11/12<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{leafgreen color light}}&quot;<br /> | {{rt|5|Kanto}}<br /> | {{MS|029|Nidoran♀ (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Nidoran♀}}<br /> | {{MS|032|Nidoran♂ (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Nidoran♂}}<br /> | MR.NIDO<br /> | [[TinyMushroom]]<br /> | Lonely<br /> | SAIGE<br /> | 63184<br /> | 19/25/18/22/22/15<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{firered color light}}&quot;<br /> | {{rt|11|Kanto}}<br /> | {{MS|033|Nidorino (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Nidorino}}<br /> | {{MS|030|Nidorina (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Nidorina}} {{female}}<br /> | NINA<br /> | <br /> | Lonely<br /> | TURNER<br /> | 13637<br /> | 22/25/18/19/22/15<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{leafgreen color light}}&quot;<br /> | {{rt|11|Kanto}}<br /> | {{MS|030|Nidorina (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Nidorina}}<br /> | {{MS|033|Nidorino (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Nidorino}} {{male}}<br /> | NINO<br /> | <br /> | Bold<br /> | TURNER<br /> | 13637<br /> | 19/18/25/22/15/22<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{firered color light}}&quot;<br /> | {{rt|18|Kanto}}<br /> | {{MS|055|Golduck (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Golduck}}<br /> | {{MS|108|Lickitung (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Lickitung}} {{male}}<br /> | MARC<br /> | <br /> | Relaxed<br /> | HADEN<br /> | 50999<br /> | ???<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{leafgreen color light}}&quot;<br /> | {{rt|18|Kanto}}<br /> | {{MS|080|Slowbro (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Slowbro}}<br /> | {{MS|108|Lickitung (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Lickitung}} {{male}}<br /> | MARC<br /> | <br /> | Relaxed<br /> | HADEN<br /> | 50999<br /> | 24/19/21/15/23/21<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Cerulean City]]<br /> | {{MS|061|Poliwhirl (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Poliwhirl}}<br /> | {{MS|124|Jynx (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Jynx}} {{female}}<br /> | ZYNX<br /> | [[Fab Mail]]<br /> | Mild<br /> | DONTAE<br /> | 36728<br /> | 18/17/18/22/25/21<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Vermilion City]]<br /> | {{MS|021|Spearow (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Spearow}}<br /> | {{MS|083|Farfetch'd (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Farfetch'd}} {{male}}<br /> | CH'DING<br /> | [[Stick]]<br /> | Adamant<br /> | ELYSSA<br /> | 08810<br /> | 20/25/21/24/15/20<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Cinnabar Island]]<br /> | {{MS|026|Raichu (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Raichu}}<br /> | {{MS|101|Electrode (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Electrode}}<br /> | ESPHERE<br /> | <br /> | Hasty<br /> | CLIFTON<br /> | 50298<br /> | ???<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Cinnabar Island]]<br /> | {{MS|048|Venonat (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Venonat}}<br /> | {{MS|114|Tangela (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Tangela}} {{male}}<br /> | TANGENY<br /> | [[Stardust]]<br /> | Sassy<br /> | NORMA<br /> | 60042<br /> | 22/17/25/16/23/20<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Cinnabar Island]]<br /> | {{MS|077|Ponyta (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Ponyta}}<br /> | {{MS|086|Seel (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Seel}} {{male}}<br /> | SEELOR<br /> | <br /> | Bold<br /> | GARETT<br /> | 09853<br /> | 24/15/22/16/23/22<br /> |}<br /> |}<br /> {{-}}<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #{{emerald color}}; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 3px solid #{{emerald color light}};&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! {{color2|{{emerald color dark}}|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;border: 1px solid #{{emerald color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;2&quot;<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{emerald color light}};&quot;<br /> ! {{color|{{emerald color}}|Location}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{color|{{emerald color}}|Player's Pokémon}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{color|{{emerald color}}|Traded Pokémon}}<br /> ! {{color|{{emerald color}}|Nickname}}<br /> ! {{color|{{emerald color}}|Item}}<br /> ! {{color|{{emerald color}}|Nature}}<br /> ! {{color|{{emerald color}}|OT}}<br /> ! {{color|{{emerald color}}|ID}}<br /> ! {{color|{{emerald color}}|Contest stat&lt;br&gt;enhanced}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Rustboro City]]<br /> | {{MS|280|Ralts (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Ralts}}<br /> | {{MS|273|Seedot (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Seedot}} {{male}}<br /> | DOTS<br /> | [[Chesto Berry]]<br /> | Relaxed<br /> | KOBE {{male}}<br /> | 38726<br /> {{Contesttable|Cool}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Fortree City]]<br /> | {{MS|313|Volbeat (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Volbeat}}<br /> | {{MS|311|Plusle (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Plusle}} {{female}}<br /> | PLUSES<br /> | {{DL|Mail|Wood Mail}}<br /> | Hasty<br /> | ROMAN {{male}}<br /> | 08460<br /> {{Contesttable|Cute}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Pacifidlog Town]]<br /> | {{MS|371|Bagon (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Bagon}}<br /> | {{MS|116|Horsea (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Horsea}} {{male}}<br /> | SEASOR<br /> | [[Wave Mail]]<br /> | Brave<br /> | SKYLAR {{male}}<br /> | 46285<br /> {{Contesttable|Tough}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}<br /> | {{MS|300|Skitty (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Skitty}}<br /> | {{MS|052|Meowth (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Meowth}} {{male}}<br /> | MEOWOW<br /> | [[Retro Mail]]<br /> | Naive<br /> | ISIS {{female}}<br /> | 25945<br /> {{Contesttable|Smart}}<br /> |}<br /> |}<br /> {{-}}<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #{{xd color}}; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 3px solid #{{xd color light}};&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! {{color2|{{xd color dark}}|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|XD}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;border: 1px solid #{{xd color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;2&quot;<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{xd color light}};&quot;<br /> ! {{color|{{xd color dark}}|Location}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{color|{{xd color dark}}|Player's Pokémon}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{color|{{xd color dark}}|Traded Pokémon}}<br /> ! {{color|{{xd color dark}}|Nickname}}<br /> ! {{color|{{xd color dark}}|OT}}<br /> ! {{color|{{xd color dark}}|ID}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Outskirt Stand]]<br /> | {{MS|175|Togepi (Pokémon)}}<br /> | Purified {{p|Togepi}}<br /> | {{MS|239|Elekid (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Elekid}}{{tt|*|Cross Chop, Fire Punch, Ice Punch and ThunderPunch}}<br /> | ZAPRONG<br /> | [[Hordel|HORDEL]]<br /> | 41400<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Outskirt Stand]]<br /> | {{MS|176|Togetic (Pokémon)}}<br /> | Purified {{p|Togetic}}<br /> | {{MS|239|Elekid (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Elekid}}{{tt|*|Normal level-up moves}}<br /> | ZAPRONG<br /> | [[Hordel|HORDEL]]<br /> | 41400<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Pyrite Town]]<br /> | {{MS|328|Trapinch (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Trapinch}}<br /> | {{MS|307|Meditite (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Meditite}}<br /> | MEDITITE<br /> | [[Duking|DUKING]]<br /> | 37149<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Pyrite Town]]<br /> | {{MS|283|Surskit (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Surskit}}<br /> | {{MS|213|Shuckle (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Shuckle}}<br /> | SHUCKLE<br /> | [[Duking|DUKING]]<br /> | 37149<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Pyrite Town]]<br /> | {{MS|194|Wooper (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Wooper}}<br /> | {{MS|246|Larvitar (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Larvitar}}<br /> | LARVITAR<br /> | [[Duking|DUKING]]<br /> | 37149<br /> |}<br /> |}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==[[Generation IV]]==<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #{{diamond color}}; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 3px solid #{{platinum color}};&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! {{color2|{{diamond color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond, Pearl}} {{color2|{{diamond color dark}}|Pokémon Platinum Version|and Platinum}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;border: 1px solid #{{diamond color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;2&quot;<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{pearl color}};&quot;<br /> ! {{color|{{pearl color dark}}|Location}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{color|{{pearl color dark}}|Player's Pokémon}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{color|{{pearl color dark}}|Traded Pokémon}}<br /> ! {{color|{{pearl color dark}}|Nickname}}<br /> ! {{color|{{pearl color dark}}|Item}}<br /> ! {{color|{{pearl color dark}}|Nature}}<br /> ! {{color|{{pearl color dark}}|OT}}<br /> ! {{color|{{pearl color dark}}|ID}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Oreburgh City]]<br /> | {{MS|066|Machop (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Machop}}<br /> | {{MS|063|Abra (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Abra}}<br /> | Kazza<br /> | [[Oran Berry]]<br /> | Quiet<br /> | Hilary<br /> | 25643<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Eterna City]]<br /> | {{MS|418|Buizel (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Buizel}}<br /> | {{MS|441|Chatot (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Chatot}}<br /> | Charap<br /> | [[Leppa Berry]]<br /> | Lonely<br /> | Norton<br /> | 44142<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Snowpoint City]]<br /> | {{MS|308|Medicham (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Medicham}}<br /> | {{MS|093|Haunter (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Haunter}}<br /> | Gaspar<br /> | {{evostone|Everstone}}<br /> | Hasty<br /> | Mindy<br /> | 19248<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | {{rt|226|Sinnoh}}<br /> | {{MS|456|Finneon (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Finneon}}<br /> | {{MS|129|Magikarp (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Magikarp}}<br /> | Foppa{{tt|*|German in origin}}<br /> | [[Lum Berry]]<br /> | Mild<br /> | [[Meister]]<br /> | 53277<br /> |}<br /> |}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #{{heartgold color}}; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 3px solid #{{soulsilver color}};&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! {{color2|{{heartgold color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold and SoulSilver}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;border: 1px solid #{{heartgold color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;2&quot;<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{soulsilver color}};&quot;<br /> ! {{color|{{soulsilver color dark}}|Location}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{color|{{soulsilver color dark}}|Player's Pokémon}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{color|{{soulsilver color dark}}|Traded Pokémon}}<br /> ! {{color|{{soulsilver color dark}}|Nickname}}<br /> ! {{color|{{soulsilver color dark}}|Item}}<br /> ! {{color|{{soulsilver color dark}}|Nature}}<br /> ! {{color|{{soulsilver color dark}}|OT}}<br /> ! {{color|{{soulsilver color dark}}|ID}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Violet City]]<br /> | {{MS|069|Bellsprout (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Bellsprout}}<br /> | {{MS|095|Onix (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Onix}}<br /> | Rocky {{male}}<br /> | [[Persim Berry]]<br /> | Hasty<br /> | Rudy<br /> | 48926<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Goldenrod City]]<br /> | {{MS|096|Drowzee (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Drowzee}}<br /> | {{MS|066|Machop (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Machop}}<br /> | Muscle {{female}}<br /> | [[Macho Brace]]<br /> | Lonely<br /> | Jose<br /> | 37460<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Olivine City]]<br /> | {{MS|098|Krabby (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Krabby}}<br /> | {{MS|100|Voltorb (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Voltorb}}<br /> | Billy<br /> | [[Cheri Berry]]<br /> | Hardy<br /> | Richard<br /> | 29189<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Blackthorn City]]<br /> | {{MS|148|Dragonair (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Dragonair}}♀<br /> | {{MS|085|Dodrio (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Dodrio}}<br /> | Doris<br /> | [[Smoke Ball]]<br /> | Impish<br /> | Ayana<br /> | 00283<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Power Plant]]<br /> | {{MS|051|Dugtrio (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Dugtrio}}<br /> | {{MS|082|Magneton (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Magneton}}<br /> | Maggie<br /> | [[Metal Coat]]<br /> | Impish<br /> | Lorenzo<br /> | 50082<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Pewter City]]<br /> | {{MS|093|Haunter (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Haunter}}<br /> | {{MS|178|Xatu (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Xatu}}<br /> | Paul {{male}}<br /> | [[Wacan Berry]]<br /> | Modest<br /> | Mondo<br /> | 15616<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Saffron City]]<br /> | {{MS|025|Pikachu (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Pikachu}}<br /> | {{MS|025|Pikachu (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Pikachu}}{{tt|*|From a non-native game}}<br /> | Volty<br /> | [[Yellow Shard]]<br /> | Jolly<br /> | [[Lt. Surge]]<br /> | 33038<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Silph Co.]]<br /> | {{MS|205|Forretress (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Forretress}}<br /> | {{MS|374|Beldum (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Beldum}}<br /> | Iron<br /> | {{evostone|Dawn Stone}}<br /> | Brave<br /> | [[Steven Stone|Steven]]<br /> | 23478<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Diglett's Cave]]<br /> | {{MS|438|Bonsly (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Bonsly}}<br /> | {{MS|111|Rhyhorn (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Rhyhorn}}{{tt|*|Knows Thunder Fang}}<br /> | Hornlette<br /> | [[Passho Berry]]<br /> | Relaxed<br /> | [[Brock]]<br /> | 06845<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Olivine City]]<br /> | {{MS|000|}}<br /> | Any Pokémon<br /> | {{MS|208|Steelix (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Steelix}}<br /> | Rusty<br /> | {{DL|Held item|Soothe Bell}}<br /> | Brave<br /> | [[Jasmine]]<br /> | 26491<br /> |}<br /> |}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==[[Generation V]]==<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #{{black color}}; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 3px solid #{{white color}};&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! {{color2|{{white color dark}}|Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black and White}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;border: 1px solid #{{black color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;2&quot;<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{white color}};&quot;<br /> ! {{color|{{soulsilver color dark}}|Location}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{color|{{white color dark}}|Player's Pokémon}}<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | {{color|{{white color dark}}|Traded Pokémon}}<br /> ! {{color|{{white color dark}}|Nickname}}<br /> ! {{color|{{white color dark}}|Item}}<br /> ! {{color|{{white color dark}}|Nature}}<br /> ! {{color|{{white color dark}}|Level}}<br /> ! {{color|{{white color dark}}|OT}}<br /> ! {{color|{{white color dark}}|ID}}<br /> ! {{tt|{{color|{{white color dark}}|IVs}}|HP/Attack/Defense/Sp. Atk/Sp. Def/Speed}}<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{black color light}}&quot;<br /> | [[Shippou City]]<br /> | {{MS|546|Monmen (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Monmen}}<br /> | {{MS|548|Churine (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Churine}}<br /> | チュりん {{female}}<br /> | [[Cheri Berry]]<br /> | Modest<br /> | 15<br /> | アヤ<br /> | 39922<br /> | 20/20/20/31/20/20<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{white color light}}&quot;<br /> | [[Shippou City]]<br /> | {{MS|548|Churine (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Churine}}<br /> | {{MS|546|Monmen (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Monmen}}<br /> | モンモン {{female}}<br /> | [[Cheri Berry]]<br /> | Modest<br /> | 15<br /> | アヤ<br /> | 39922<br /> | 20/20/20/31/20/20<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{black color light}}&quot;<br /> | [[Hodomoe City]]<br /> | {{MS|572|Chillarmy (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Chillarmy}}<br /> | {{MS|550|Basurao (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Basurao}}{{tt|*|Has Reckless as Ability}}<br /> | アカメ {{male}}<br /> | [[Sitrus Berry]]<br /> | Adamant<br /> | 25<br /> | ナオキ<br /> | 27646<br /> | 20/31/20/20/20/20<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background:#{{white color light}}&quot;<br /> | [[Hodomoe City]]<br /> | {{MS|572|Chillarmy (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Chillarmy}}<br /> | {{MS|550B|Basurao (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Basurao}}{{tt|*|Has Rock Head as Ability}}<br /> | アオメ {{male}}<br /> | [[Sitrus Berry]]<br /> | Adamant<br /> | 25<br /> | ナオキ<br /> | 27646<br /> | 20/31/20/20/20/20<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Isshu Route 7|Route 7]]<br /> | {{MS|525|Gantoru (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Gantoru}}<br /> | {{MS|587|Emonga (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Emonga}}<br /> | トビマル {{male}}<br /> | [[Lum Berry]]<br /> | Lax<br /> | 30<br /> | グンゾウ<br /> | 11195<br /> | 20/20/31/20/20/20<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | {{rt|15|Isshu}}<br /> | {{MS|132|Ditto (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Ditto}}<br /> | {{MS|479|Rotom (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Rotom}}<br /> | ドッキー<br /> | [[Max Elixir]]<br /> | Gentle<br /> | 60<br /> | ユイ<br /> | 54673<br /> | 20/20/20/20/31/20<br /> |- align=&quot;center&quot;<br /> | [[Sazanami Town]]{{tt|*|Summer only}}<br /> | {{MS|573|Chillaccino (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Chillaccino}}<br /> | {{MS|446|Munchlax (Pokémon)}}<br /> | {{p|Munchlax}}<br /> | まんぷく {{male}}<br /> | [[Leftovers]]<br /> | Serious<br /> | 60<br /> | フトシ<br /> | 40217<br /> | 31/20/20/20/20/20<br /> |}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> * Since the Pokémon received in an in-game trade is the same level as the one traded, it's sometimes possible to receive a Pokémon at a lower level than normally possible.<br /> ** {{p|Electrode}} does not evolve from {{p|Voltorb}} until level 30, but can be obtained by trading a level 3 {{p|Raichu}} which has been caught in [[Viridian Forest]] and evolved by {{evostone|Thunderstone}}. This trade can be made in {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}} and Red and Blue (Red and Green in Japan).<br /> ** {{p|Machop}} evolves into {{p|Machoke}} at level 28 (though can be found as low as level 15 in [[Generation II]]'s [[Rock Tunnel]]) and then {{p|Machamp}} by trading. By breeding a Cubone in Generation II and trading it to Yellow Machamp can be obtained at level 5.<br /> ** {{p|Dragonair}} evolves from {{p|Dratini}} at level 30, and in {{game|Gold and Silver|s}} can be traded for a {{p|Rhydon}} which does not normally evolve from {{p|Rhyhorn}} until level 42. In {{game|Crystal}} and {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, the same trade is for a {{p|Dodrio}}, which does not normally evolve until level 31. Dragonair can also be fished at a level as low as 10 on {{rt|45|Johto}}, but only in [[Generation II]].<br /> ** {{p|Gloom}} evolves at level 21, but can be traded for a {{p|Rapidash}} which does not normally evolve until level 40. This occurs only in {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}. In {{game|Crystal}} and {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}} the trade is replaced by a {{p|Haunter}} for a {{p|Xatu}} (which in turn can be traded for a level 19 Haunter found on {{rt|8}}, given that neither evolve until level 25).<br /> ** {{p|Dugtrio}} evolves at level 26, but can be traded for a {{p|Magneton}} (which does not normally evolve until level 30) in {{game|Crystal}} and {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}.<br /> * Before [[Generation IV]], Pokémon eggs hatched at level 5, but some could be caught in the wild as low as level 2. In-game trades allow these to be traded for Pokémon which normally cannot be found below level 5. In Pokémon Blue (Japan), a level 2 {{p|Pidgey}} and {{p|Rattata}} and level 3 {{p|Jigglypuff}} can be traded for {{p|Farfetch'd}}, {{p|Poliwag}} and {{p|Mr.Mime}}, respectively. In {{game|Ruby and Sapphire}}, a level 3 {{p|Pikachu}} obtained from {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}} can be traded for a level 3 {{p|Skitty}}, which in turn can be traded in {{game|Emerald}} for a level 3 {{p|Meowth}}.<br /> * HeartGold and SoulSilver were the first games to feature in-game trades with [[Gym Leader]]s; [[Lt. Surge]], [[Brock]], and [[Jasmine]] each offer an in-game trade with the player.<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Project Games notice}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Pokémon world]]<br /> [[Category:Game mechanics]]</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Musical&diff=1246338 2010-11-06T13:09:51Z

<p>EzekielMaple: manual of style</p> <hr /> <div>{{incomplete}}<br /> [[File:Pokémon Musical.png|thumb|right|220px|{{p|Chillarmy}}, {{p|Swanna}}, {{p|Giaru}}, and {{p|Shimama}} participating in a Musical]]<br /> The '''Pokémon Musical''' (Japanese: '''ポケモンミュージカル''' ''Pokémon Musical'') is a feature in the fifth generation games {{game|Black and White|s}}. Like [[Pokémon Contests]], [[Pokémon Super Contests]] and the [[Pokéathlon]] from previous games, this feature provides Trainers with an alternative to battling.<br /> <br /> Pokémon Musicals feature a modified version of the appeals round in the Super Contests of [[Generation IV]]. Just like in Super Contests, [[Pokémon Trainer|Trainers]] have to dress up their Pokémon in different [[accessories]]. In the competition round, Pokémon compete by dancing on the theater stage with the other entrants. Similar to Pokémon Contests and the [[Pokéathlon]], there are four Trainers allowed to participate at once. <br /> <br /> [[File:BW Prerelease Musical.png|thumb|left|220px|The Pokémon Musical building]]<br /> Pokémon Musicals are held in a large, brightly colored theater in [[Raimon City]] in the [[Isshu]] region. <br /> <br /> ==Dressing Up==<br /> The first part of the Pokémon Musical involves dressing up the Pokémon by putting accessories onto it. The player obtains accessories similar to the ones in [[Sinnoh]] by putting items in the Goods Case. If player picks the costume that fits the right song gives scores points for it. There are five different categories with songs Cool with the song Starom and Attract Munna, Cute with the song A Walk in the Palk, Elegant with the song Evening Party, Unique with the song Raimon Passion.<br /> <br /> ==Dancing==<br /> When you are done dressing your Pokémon it is time to perform with the music. If the audience likes your Pokémon they throw items which the player can keep. The player can dowload new pieces of music from the [[Global Link]]. If the player has items attached in their hands they will be able to wave the accessory and gain for points.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghL3eTDEBeM Video from Filb.de] (Pokémon Musical shown at 2:10)<br /> {{stub|Game}}<br /> {{Project Games notice}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Terminology]] <br /> [[Category:Pokémon Black and White]]<br /> [[Category:Pokémon competitions]]</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Scientist_(Trainer_class)&diff=1246329 2010-11-06T13:01:43Z

<p>EzekielMaple: </p> <hr /> <div>A '''Scientist''' (Japanese: '''はぐれけんきゅういん''' ''Researcher Gone Astray'' in Generations I, II and [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HGSS]], '''けんきゅういん''' ''Researcher'' in Generations III, V, and [[DPPt]]) is a type of [[Pokémon Trainer]] that first debuted in the [[Generation I]] games. They are men in [[wp:White coat|lab coats]] and glasses, with the ones in {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}} as well as {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}} holding {{wp|beaker (glassware)|beakers}} as well. They are often aligned with [[Team Rocket]], as shown throughout the first four generations, and with [[Team Galactic]], as shown in {{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}.<br /> <br /> They generally use inorganic or artificial Pokémon such as {{p|Porygon}}, {{p|Muk}}, and {{p|Voltorb}} but also {{type2|Psychic}} Pokémon in [[Sinnoh]]-based games.<br /> <br /> In {{Eng|Pokémon Stadium}}, Scientists are known as '''Lab Men'''. In the English version of [[Pokémon Colosseum]] and [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]], Scientists are known as '''Researchers''', while Scientists working for [[Cipher]] are called '''Cipher R&amp;D''' in XD.<br /> <br /> In HeartGold and SoulSilver, Scientists appearing outside of the [[Battle Frontier (Generation IV)|Battle Frontier]] have a sprite unique to themselves with clothes consisting of a tattered lab coat and black pants, while Scientists within the Battle Frontier use the Diamond, Pearl and Platinum sprite, which has them wearing a normal-looking lab coat and white pants.<br /> <br /> In {{2v2|Black|White}}, female Scientists were introduced.<br /> <br /> ==Appearance==<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{psychic color dark}}; background: #{{psychic color}};&quot;<br /> |- align=center<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{psychic color dark}}; background: #{{psychic color light}}; width:56px&quot;| [[File:GenIScientist.png]]<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{psychic color dark}}; background: #{{psychic color light}}; width:64px&quot;| [[File:GSC Scientist.png]]<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{psychic color dark}}; background: #{{psychic color light}}; width:65px&quot;| [[File:Colo_Researcher.png|65px]]<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{psychic color dark}}; background: #{{psychic color light}}; width:64px&quot;| [[File:FL Scientist.png]]<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{psychic color dark}}; background: #{{psychic color light}}; width:65px&quot;| [[File:XD_Researcher.png|65px]]<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{psychic color dark}}; background: #{{psychic color light}}; width:80px&quot;| [[File:DP Scientist.png]]<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{psychic color dark}}; background: #{{psychic color light}}; width:80px&quot;| [[File:HGSS Scientist.png]]<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{psychic color dark}}; background: #{{psychic color light}}; width:160px&quot;| [[File:Spr BW Scientist M.png]][[File:Spr BW Scientist F.png]]<br /> |- align=center style=&quot;font-size: 80%;&quot;<br /> | Image from&lt;br&gt;{{color2|000000|Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|Red and Blue}}<br /> | Image from&lt;br&gt;{{color2|000000|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Gold and Silver}}, and {{color2|000000|Pokémon Crystal Version|Crystal}}<br /> | Image from&lt;br&gt;{{color2|000000|Pokémon Colosseum|Colosseum}}<br /> | Image from&lt;br&gt;{{color2|000000|Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FireRed and LeafGreen}}<br /> | Image from&lt;br&gt;{{color2|000000|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|Pokémon XD}}<br /> | Image from&lt;br&gt;{{color2|000000|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond, Pearl}}, and {{color2|000000|Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum}}<br /> | Image from&lt;br&gt;{{color2|000000|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold and SoulSilver}}<br /> | Images from&lt;br&gt;{{color2|000000|Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black and White}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ===Artwork===<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{psychic color dark}}; background: #{{psychic color}}; padding:5px;&quot;<br /> |- align=center<br /> |style=&quot;{{roundy|15px}} border: 2px solid #{{psychic color dark}}; background: #{{psychic color light}}; width:80px; padding:5px;&quot;| [[File:S2_Scientist.png]]<br /> |- align=center style=&quot;font-size: 80%;&quot;<br /> | Image from&lt;br&gt;{{color2|000000|Pokémon Stadium 2|Stadium 2}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Trainer List==<br /> ===Pokémon Gold/Silver/Crystal===<br /> {{Trainerlist/h|3|gold|silver|crystal}}<br /> {{Trainerlist/e|1|Scientist [[Team Rocket HQ|Jed]]}}<br /> {{Trainerlist/b|1|2000|3|081|Magnemite|20|081|Magnemite|20|081|Magnemite|20|}}<br /> {{Trainerlist/e|1|Scientist [[Goldenrod Radio Tower|Marc]]}}<br 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EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lugia/Pok%C3%A9mon_counterparts&diff=1245851 2010-11-06T00:42:26Z

<p>EzekielMaple: </p> <hr /> <div>Are you planning on putting this into the mainspace? [[User:CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Red&quot;&gt;Cu&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Tan&quot;&gt;bo&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Green&quot;&gt;ne&lt;/font&gt;]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|&lt;font color=&quot;Black&quot;&gt;King&lt;/font&gt;]] 01:43, 19 November 2009 (UTC)<br /> :If it gets approved... which as of now is unlikely... :( --'''''-'''''[[User:LugiaRocks|&lt;span style=&quot;color:green&quot;&gt;'''LūgīāRōcks'''&lt;/span&gt;]] ([[User talk:LugiaRocks|&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;''Tālk''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] δ [[Special:Contributions/LugiaRocks|&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;''Ēdīts''&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]) 15:42, 21 November 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::I think it's notable :D But keep in mind that even if it doesn't get approved, you can still keep it, as it is a good source of info. [[User:CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Red&quot;&gt;Cu&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Tan&quot;&gt;bo&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Green&quot;&gt;ne&lt;/font&gt;]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|&lt;font color=&quot;Black&quot;&gt;King&lt;/font&gt;]] 18:00, 21 November 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> I thought about making Medicham and Hariyama counterparts. They're both Fighting-types and they seem almost like opposites. Gallevoir.<br /> : What about the &quot;cute&quot; legendary Pokémon? Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Manaphy, Shaymin and Victini:the have a 600 base stat total divided in 100 each, are small, and are at the very end (or beginning) of each regional Pokédex --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 00:42, 6 November 2010 (UTC)</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Phione_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=1245813 2010-11-05T23:53:33Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* Trivia */ EV</p> <hr /> <div>{{PokémonPrevNext |type=water | prevnum=488 | nextnum=490 | prev=Cresselia |next=Manaphy}}<br /> {{PokémonInfobox|<br /> name=Phione |<br /> jname=フィオネ |<br /> tmname=Phione |<br /> pron=&lt;sc&gt;fi-yo-ne&lt;/sc&gt; |<br /> image=489Phione.png |<br /> art=DP |<br /> ndex=489 |<br /> obrow=297 |<br /> typen=1 |<br /> type1=Water |<br /> type2= |<br /> species=Sea Drifter |<br /> height-ftin=1'04&quot; |<br /> height-m=0.4 |<br /> weight-lbs=6.8 |<br /> weight-kg=3.1 |<br /> abilityn=1 |<br /> ability1=Hydration |<br /> ability2= |<br /> egggroupn=2 |<br /> egggroup1=Water 1 |<br /> egggroup2=Fairy |<br /> eggcycles=40 |<br /> evhp=1|<br /> expyield=165 |<br /> lv100exp=1,250,000 |<br /> gendercode=255|<br /> color=Blue |<br /> catchrate=30 |<br /> body= 04|<br /> pokefordex=phione |<br /> generation=4 |<br /> footnotes= }}<br /> '''Phione''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese:]] '''フィオネ''' ''Phione'') is a {{type2|Water}} [[Pokémon]]. <br /> <br /> It is not known to evolve into or from any other Pokémon. It can only be obtained by breeding {{p|Manaphy}} or another Phione with {{p|Ditto}}.<br /> <br /> Phione is considered by some to be a [[legendary Pokémon]]. However, due to the fact that it can breed and multiple individuals can be obtained, its legendary status remains disputed, with contradiction occuring even between official sources.<br /> <br /> ==Biology==<br /> ===Physiology===<br /> Phione is the result of breeding {{p|Manaphy}} in the [[Generation IV]] games. As a result, it is very similar to Manaphy in body structure. It has a tiny body with a red gem on it. Phione has a single rudimentary foot spike and club-like arms. Phione's head is larger than the rest of its body, and extending from its eyes are two small purple circles. It has a flotation sac on its head with a single, ribbon-like antenna on it.<br /> <br /> ====Gender differences====<br /> Phione is a genderless species.<br /> <br /> ====Special abilities====<br /> [[Image:Phione to water.png|thumb|right|Phione going in the drain]]<br /> Phione's abilities are similar to Manaphy's, but weaker. Phione is unable to use a number of attacks that Manaphy is able to learn, most notably: {{m|Tail Glow}}, {{m|Heart Swap}}, {{m|Hyper Beam}}, or {{m|Giga Impact}}. Phione are supposedly able to create a dew that cures all {{status|ailments}}. Phione also has the ability to {{m|Acid Armor|melt}} its body into water and change its body into a more liquid state similar to {{p|Vaporeon}}.<br /> <br /> ===Behavior===<br /> Like Manaphy, Phione always go back to the spot where they are born.<br /> ===Habitat===<br /> Phione live in warm seas, especially around the [[Sinnoh]] region.<br /> <br /> ===Diet===<br /> {{main|Pokémon food}}<br /> <br /> ==In the anime==<br /> [[Image:Phione.png|thumb|210px|Multiple Phione in the anime]]<br /> Multiple Phione made their debut appearance in the anime in ''[[DP113|Hold the Phione!]]'' where one was attracted to [[Dawn's Buneary]].<br /> <br /> ===Pokédex entries===<br /> {{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}<br /> {{Animedexbody|DP113|Phione|Dawn's Pokédex|Phione, the Sea Drifter Pokémon. Phione lives in warm oceans. It inflates the flotation sac on its head allowing it to float on the waves and look for {{pkmn|food}}.}}<br /> {{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond &amp; Pearl''|Sinnoh}}<br /> <br /> &lt;!--==In the manga==<br /> --&gt;<br /> <br /> ==In the TCG==<br /> {{main|Phione (TCG)}}<br /> <br /> ==Game data==<br /> ===Pokédex entries===<br /> {{Dex<br /> |type=water<br /> |gen=4<br /> |dpdex=A Pokémon that lives in warm seas. It inflates the flotation sac on its head to drift and search for food.<br /> |platinumdex=It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.<br /> |hgssdex=When the water warms, they inflate the flotation sac on their heads and drift languidly on the sea in packs.<br /> |bwdex={{tt|あたたかい　うみを　ただよっている。どんな　とおくに　ながされても　うまれた　ばしょに　かならずもどる。|It drifts in warm seas. It always returns to where it was born, no matter how far it may have drifted.}}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Game locations===<br /> {{Availability|<br /> type=water |<br /> gen=4 |<br /> dparea=[[Pokémon breeding|Breed]] {{p|Manaphy}} and {{p|Ditto}} |<br /> ptarea=[[Pokémon breeding|Breed]] {{p|Manaphy}} and {{p|Ditto}}|<br /> hgssex=[[Pokémon breeding|Breed]] {{p|Manaphy}} and {{p|Ditto}}|<br /> hgssarea=[[Pokémon breeding|Breed]] {{p|Manaphy}} and {{p|Ditto}}|<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ====In side games====<br /> {{SidegameAvail<br /> |type=Water<br /> |md2=[[Miracle Sea]] (Bottom)<br /> |ranch=Store 250 Pokémon {{tt|*|Received in a Trade with Hayley for a Leafeon. Available for transfer to Diamond and Pearl.}}<br /> |scramble=Ticket for releasing {{p|Lapras}} and {{p|Vaporeon}}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Stats===<br /> ====Base stats====<br /> {{BaseStats|<br /> type=water |<br /> HP= 80 |<br /> Attack= 80 |<br /> Defense=80 |<br /> SpAtk= 80 |<br /> SpDef= 80 |<br /> Speed= 80 }}<br /> <br /> ====Pokéathlon stats====<br /> {{Pokéthlon|<br /> |type=Water<br /> |Speed=4<br /> |SpeedMax=5<br /> |Power=1<br /> |PowerMax=2<br /> |Technique=3<br /> |TechniqueMax=5<br /> |Stamina=1<br /> |StaminaMax=3<br /> |Jump=2<br /> |JumpMax=3<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Type effectiveness===<br /> {{Type effectiveness|<br /> type1=water|<br /> Normal= 100 |<br /> Fighting=100 |<br /> Flying= 100 |<br /> Poison= 100 |<br /> Ground= 100 |<br /> Rock= 100 |<br /> Bug= 100 |<br /> Ghost= 100 |<br /> Steel= 50 |<br /> <br /> Fire= 50 |<br /> Water= 50 |<br /> Grass= 200 |<br /> Electric=200 |<br /> Psychic= 100 |<br /> Ice= 50 |<br /> Dragon= 100 |<br /> Dark= 100 }}<br /> <br /> ===Learnset===<br /> ====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br /> {{learnlist/levelh|Phione|Water|Water|5|4}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|Start|Bubble|Water|Special|20|100|30||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|Start|Water Sport|Water|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|15}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|9|Charm|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|100|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|16|Supersonic|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|55|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|24|BubbleBeam|Water|Special|65|100|20||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|31|Acid Armor|Poison|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|40}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|39|Whirlpool|Water|Special|35|85|15||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|46|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|54|Aqua Ring|Water|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|61|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/level5|69|Rain Dance|Water|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|5}}<br /> {{learnlist/levelf|Phione|Water|Water|5|4}}<br /> <br /> ====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====<br /> {{learnlist/tmh|Phione|Water|Water|5|4}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|&amp;mdash;|90|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM07|Hail|Ice|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|&amp;mdash;|100|15}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM14|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|5}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|25}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|&amp;mdash;|100|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|&amp;mdash;|100|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|15}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Canon|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM55|Boiling Water|Water|Special|80|100|15||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|&amp;mdash;|100|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM86|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|&amp;mdash;|100|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|90|15}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM89|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|&amp;mdash;|&amp;mdash;|10}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|HM03|Surf|Water|Special|95|100|15||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|HM05|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/tm5|HM06|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10||'''}}<br /> {{learnlist/tmf|Phione|Water|Water|5|4}}<br /> <br /> ====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br /> {{learnlist/breedh|Phione|water|water|5|4}}<br /> {{learnlist/breed5null}}<br /> {{learnlist/breedf|Phione|water|water|5|4}}<br /> <br /> ====By [[move tutor|tutoring]]====<br /> {{learnlist/tutorh|Phione|water|water|5|4}}<br /> {{learnlist/tutor5null}}<br /> {{learnlist/tutorf|Phione|water|water|5|4}}<br /> <br /> ===Side game data===<br /> {{Sidegame|<br /> type=water |<br /> ndex=489 |<br /> Dungeon2=yes |<br /> body2=1 |<br /> rate2=100 |<br /> iq=B |<br /> Ranger3=yes |<br /> group3=Water |<br /> assist3=Water |<br /> field3=Cut |<br /> field3power=2 |<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Evolution===<br /> {{Evobox<br /> |family=Breedonly<br /> |sprite1=489<br /> |name1=Phione<br /> |type1-1=Water<br /> |evotype1=None<br /> |sprite2=490<br /> |name2=Manaphy<br /> |type1-2=Water<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Sprites===<br /> {{Sprite|<br /> type=water|<br /> gen=4|<br /> gender=none|<br /> ndex=489|<br /> name=Phione|<br /> animated=1|<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> * Phione is the only Pokémon that is obtainable by breeding a [[legendary Pokémon]].<br /> * Phione is taller and weighs more than its parent, {{p|Manaphy}}.<br /> * Phione can be bred not only from {{p|Manaphy}}, but also from a Phione. However, Phione are unable to produce eggs that will hatch into Manaphy.<br /> * There was much debate over whether or not Phione is a [[legendary Pokémon]] until [[Pokémon.com]] revealed that Phione is indeed legendary.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag_02042008 Mailbag on Pokémon.com] (Broken link)&lt;/ref&gt; This makes it the legendary with the lowest base stats and the legendary Pokémon with the least amount of EV given in battle.<br /> ** The website initially answered that Phione was not a legendary Pokémon, but it was soon changed.<br /> ** However, this answer was again overturned by a {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}} guidebook published by the same company that runs Pokémon.com, where it was stated that Phione is not a legendary due to its ability to reproduce.<br /> ** When considered as a legendary Pokémon, it has the lowest base stat total of all legendary Pokémon.<br /> * Phione and {{p|Nincada}} are the only Pokémon that can be obtained by breeding a Pokémon they cannot evolve into (as {{p|Shedinja}} is technically a shed shell).<br /> <br /> ===Origin===<br /> {{bulbanews|On the Origin of Species: Manaphy and Phione}}<br /> Phione is probably based on {{wp|sea angel}}s.<br /> <br /> ====Name origin====<br /> Phione's name is likely a combination of the final syllable of Manaphy's name with {{wp|clione}}, sea angels. Clione are remarkably popular in Japanese documentaries, especially in {{wp|Hokkaido}}, on which Sinnoh is based (this may also explain their appearance in [[Chocovine Town]]). Also, like clione, Phione's name is pronounced in three syllables.<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> ==In other languages==<br /> *[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: ''Phione''<br /> *[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: ''Phione''<br /> *[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 피오네 ''Phione''<br /> *[[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese]]: 霏歐納 ''Fēi Ōu Nà'' - Transliteration of its Japanese name.<br /> <br /> &lt;!--==External links==<br /> ==Notes==--&gt;<br /> <br /> {{PokémonPrevNext |type=water | prevnum=488 | nextnum=490 | prev=Cresselia |next=Manaphy}}<br /> {{Project Pokédex notice}}<br /> [[Category:Promotion-only Pokémon]]<br /> <br /> [[de:Phione]]<br /> [[es:Phione]]<br /> [[fr:Phione]]<br /> [[ja:フィオネ]]<br /> [[pl:Phione]]<br /> [[pt:Phione (pokémon)]]</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bisharp_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=1245708 2010-11-05T21:29:53Z

<p>EzekielMaple: </p> <hr /> <div>Cutman or metalman? I'm pretty sure this guy draws inspiration from them.<br /> :neither, he doesnt look either of them [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 23:23, 28 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> Then which sentai series does he look like? He does show resemblance to at least Metalman, a small red guy armed with round metal blades all over his body, everyone I know said the same thing. {{unsigned|Pialga92}}<br /> :Not very familiar with the series, but [http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/29578.jpg Red from 轟轟戦隊ボウケンジャー（Go Go Sentai Boukenja, ENG: Power Rangers Operation Overdrive)] was the one who best matched Kirikizan among the images that I found in a basic search. Hopefully someone who's a little more knowledgeable about the series will lend a hand...? [[User:Kamen no Otoko|Kamen no Otoko]] 12:32, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::He's [http://www.webspawner.com/users/burakku/Motors.jpg Kamen Rider Black]. [[User:Tolstak|Tolstak]] 22:59, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :For the Mega Man thing we could see at the [http://megaman.wikia.com/wiki/Mega_Man_Wiki Mega Man wiki] --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 21:29, 5 November 2010 (UTC)</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_effort_value_yield_in_Generations_V_and_VI&diff=1245700 2010-11-05T21:16:48Z

<p>EzekielMaple: </p> <hr /> <div><br /> {{outdated|needs=Generation V info}}<br /> <br /> This is a '''list of Pokémon by effort value yield'''. Gained on the defeat of an opponent Pokémon, [[effort values]] increase the stats of a Pokémon by accumulation, with every four effort points in a stat giving a Pokémon one more point in that stat at level 100. Base [[experience]] yield determines, as a function one-seventh of the level of the Pokémon and the type of battle it is engaged in, among other variables, how many experience points are awarded to its opponents when the Pokémon faints.<br /> <br /> ==List of Pokémon by effort value yield==<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; class=&quot;sortable&quot; style=&quot;background: #CCCCFF; border: 3px solid #BEBED1; -moz-border-radius: 10px;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! [[National Pokédex|{{color|000|#}}]]<br /> ! &amp;nbsp;<br /> ! Pokémon<br /> ! &lt;small&gt;Exp.&lt;/small&gt;<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{hp color}}; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 10px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 10px;&quot; | &lt;small&gt;HP&lt;/small&gt;<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{attack color}}; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 10px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 10px;&quot; | &lt;small&gt;Attack&lt;/small&gt;<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{defense color}}; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 10px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 10px;&quot; | &lt;small&gt;Defense&lt;/small&gt;<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{special attack color}}; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 10px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 10px;&quot; | &lt;small&gt;Sp. Attack&lt;/small&gt;<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{special defense color}}; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 10px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 10px;&quot; | &lt;small&gt;Sp. Defense&lt;/small&gt;<br /> ! style=&quot;background:#{{speed color}}; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 10px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 10px;&quot; | &lt;small&gt;Speed&lt;/small&gt;<br /> ! &lt;small&gt;Total EVs&lt;/small&gt;<br /> {{lop/ev|001|Bulbasaur|64|0|0|0|1|0|0}}<br /> {{lop/ev|002|Ivysaur|141|0|0|0|1|1|0}}<br /> {{lop/ev|003|Venusaur|208|0|0|0|2|1|0}}<br /> {{lop/ev|004|Charmander|65|0|0|0|0|0|1}}<br /> {{lop/ev|005|Charmeleon|142|0|0|0|1|0|1}}<br /> {{lop/ev|006|Charizard|209|0|0|0|3|0|0}}<br /> {{lop/ev|007|Squirtle|66|0|0|1|0|0|0}}<br /> {{lop/ev|008|Wartortle|143|0|0|1|0|1|0}}<br /> {{lop/ev|009|Blastoise|210|0|0|0|0|3|0}}<br /> {{lop/ev|010|Caterpie|53|1|0|0|0|0|0}}<br /> {{lop/ev|011|Metapod|72|0|0|2|0|0|0}}<br /> {{lop/ev|012|Butterfree|160|0|0|0|2|1|0}}<br /> {{lop/ev|013|Weedle|52|0|0|0|0|0|1}}<br /> {{lop/ev|014|Kakuna|71|0|0|2|0|0|0}}<br /> {{lop/ev|015|Beedrill|159|0|2|0|0|1|0}}<br /> {{lop/ev|016|Pidgey|55|0|0|0|0|0|1}}<br /> 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EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Accessory&diff=1245487 2010-11-05T17:03:45Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* Generation V */ broken link</p> <hr /> <div><br /> <br /> '''Accessories''' are a type of [[item]] introduced in [[Generation IV]]. They are stored in the [[Fashion Case]], along with [[Backdrop]]s. Accessories are used in [[Pokémon Super Contest]]s in [[Hearthome City]] as well as in taking pictures in [[Jubilife City]].<br /> <br /> In Super Contests, they are used during the Visual Round to improve the looks of a Pokémon. The better the accessories used match to the contest's theme, the more points are scored in the Visual Round.<br /> <br /> ==Generation V== <br /> <br /> In [[Generation V]] Accesories are used for the [[Pokémon Musical]]. They also are put on different parts of the Pokémon like the Pokémon's head, arms, face, body, and ears.<br /> <br /> ==List of accessories==<br /> ===Amity Square accessories===<br /> Players can obtain these from their Pokémon every 200 steps in [[Amity Square]].<br /> ====Fluffs====<br /> {{Accessory/head}}<br /> {{Accessory|Black Fluff|Blackfluff.png|Low|High|Low|Medium|High|Medium|Medium|High|High|Medium|Low|Medium|top}}<br /> {{Accessory|Brown Fluff|Brownfluff.png|Medium|High|Low|Medium|High|Medium|Medium|High|High|Medium|Low|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|Orange Fluff|Orangefluff.png|Medium|High|Low|Medium|High|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|Medium|Low|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|Pink Fluff|Pinkfluff.png|Medium|High|Low|Medium|High|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|Medium|Low|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|White Fluff|Whitefluff.png|High|Medium|Low|Medium|High|Medium|Medium|High|Low|Medium|Low|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|Yellow Fluff|Yellowfluff.png|High|High|Low|Medium|High|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|Medium|Low|Medium|bottom}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ====Pebbles====<br /> {{Accessory/head}}<br /> {{Accessory|Round Pebble|Amityroundstone.png|Medium|Medium|Medium|Medium|Low|High|Low|Medium|Medium|High|Low|High|top}}<br /> {{Accessory|Glitter Boulder|Amityrounderstone.png|High|Medium|Medium|High|Low|High|Low|Medium|Low|High|Low|High}}<br /> {{Accessory|Snaggy Pebble|Amitysnaggystone.png|Medium|Low|Low|Low|Low|Medium|Low|High|Medium|High|Low|High}}<br /> {{Accessory|Jagged Boulder|Amityjaggedboulder.png|Medium|Low|Low|Low|Low|Medium|Low|High|High|High|Low|High}}<br /> {{Accessory|Black Pebble|Amityblackstone.png|High|Medium|High|Medium|Low|High|Low|Medium|High|High|Low|High}}<br /> {{Accessory|Mini Pebble|Amityministone.png|Medium|Medium|Medium|Medium|Low|High|Low|Medium|Medium|High|Low|High|bottom}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ====Scales====<br /> {{Accessory/head}}<br /> {{Accessory|Pink Scale|Amitypinkscale.png|Medium|High|Low|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|High|Medium|Medium|Medium|High|top}}<br /> {{Accessory|Blue Scale|Amitybluescale.png|Medium|High|Low|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|High|High|Medium|High|High}}<br /> {{Accessory|Green Scale|Amitygreenscale.png|Medium|High|Low|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|High|Medium|Medium|Low|High}}<br /> {{Accessory|Purple Scale|Purplescale.png|Medium|High|Low|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|High|Medium|Medium|High|High}}<br /> {{Accessory|Big Scale|Bigscale.png|High|Medium|Low|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|High|Low|Medium|High|High}}<br /> {{Accessory|Narrow Scale|Amitynarrowscale.png|Low|Medium|Low|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|High|High|Medium|High|High|bottom}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ====Feathers====<br /> {{Accessory/head}}<br /> {{Accessory|Blue Feather|bluefeathertransparent.png|Medium|High|Low|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|High|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|top}}<br /> {{Accessory|RedFeather|Redfeather.png|Medium|High|Low|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|High|Medium|Medium|High|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|Yellow Feather|Yellowfeather.png|High|High|Low|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|High|Medium|Medium|High|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|White Feather|Amitywhitefeather.png|High|High|Low|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|High|Low|Medium|High|Medium|bottom}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ====Facial Hair====<br /> {{Accessory/head}}<br /> {{Accessory|Black Moustache|Blackmoustache.png|Low|High|High|Low|High|High|Medium|Low|High|Medium|Medium|Medium|top}}<br /> {{Accessory|White Moustache|Amitywhitemoustache.png|High|Medium|High|Low|High|High|Medium|Low|Low|Medium|Medium|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|Black Beard|Amityblackbeard.png|Low|High|High|Low|High|High|Medium|Low|High|Medium|High|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|White Beard|Amitywhitebeard.png|High|Medium|High|Low|High|High|Medium|Low|Low|Medium|High|Medium|bottom}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ====Natural====<br /> {{Accessory/head}}<br /> {{Accessory|Small Leaf|Smallleaf.png|Medium|Medium|Low|Low|High|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|Medium|Medium|Medium|top}}<br /> {{Accessory|Big Leaf|Amitybigleaf.png|Medium|Medium|Low|Low|High|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|High|Medium|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|Narrow Leaf|Amitynarrowleaf.png|Medium|Medium|Low|Low|High|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|Medium|High|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|Shed Claw|Amityshedclaw.png|High|Low|Medium|Medium|Low|Medium|Medium|High|Low|High|High|High}}<br /> {{Accessory|Shed Horn|Amityshedhorn.png|High|Low|Medium|Medium|Low|Medium|Medium|High|Low|High|High|High}}<br /> {{Accessory|Thin Mushroom|Amitythinmushroom.png|High|Medium|Medium|Medium|Medium|Medium|Medium|High|Low|Medium|High|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|Thick Mushroom|Amitythickmushroom.png|Medium|Medium|Medium|Medium|Medium|Medium|Medium|High|Low|High|Medium|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|Stump|Amitystump.png|Medium|Low|Medium|Low|Low|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|High|Medium|High|bottom}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ===Massage accessories===<br /> These accessories can be obtained from the [[Massage Lady|Massage Lady]] in [[Veilstone City|Veilstone City]].<br /> <br /> {{Accessory/head}}<br /> {{Accessory|Pretty Dewdrop|dewdroptransparent.png|Medium|Medium|Low|High|High|Medium|High|High|Low|Medium|Low|Low|top}}<br /> {{Accessory|Snow Crystal|snowcrystaltransparent.png|High|Medium|Low|High|High|Medium|High|High|Low|Medium|Medium|Low}}<br /> {{Accessory|Sparks|sparkstransparent.png|High|Medium|Medium|High|High|Medium|High|High|Medium|Low|Low|Low}}<br /> {{Accessory|Shimmering Fire|shimmeringfiretransparent.png|High|Medium|Medium|High|High|High|High|High|Medium|Low|Low|Low}}<br /> {{Accessory|Mystic Fire|Mysticfire.png|High|Medium|Medium|High|High|Medium|High|High|Medium|Low|Low|Low}}<br /> {{Accessory|Determination|determinationtransparent.png|High|Medium|Medium|Medium|High|High|High|Medium|Medium|Low|Medium|Low}}<br /> {{Accessory|Peculiar Spoon|peculiarspoontransparent.png|Medium|Low|High|Medium|Medium|Medium|Low|Low|Medium|High|Medium|High}}<br /> {{Accessory|Puffy Smoke|puffysmoketransparent.png|Medium|Medium|Low|Low|High|Medium|High|High|Medium|Low|Low|Low}}<br /> {{Accessory|Poison Extract|poisonextracttransparent.png|Low|High|Medium|Low|High|Low|High|High|High|Low|Low|Low}}<br /> {{Accessory|Wealthy Coin|wealthycointransparent.png|Medium|Medium|High|High|Low|High|Low|Low|Low|High|Low|High}}<br /> {{Accessory|Eerie Thing|Eeriethingtransparent.png|Low|High|Medium|Low|High|Low|High|High|High|Medium|Low|Low}}<br /> {{Accessory|Spring|springtransparent.png|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|High|High|Medium|Low|Medium|High|High|High}}<br /> {{Accessory|Seashell|seashelltransparent.png|High|Low|Low|Medium|Low|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|High|Medium|High}}<br /> {{Accessory|Humming Note|hummingnotetransparent.png|Medium|Medium|High|High|High|High|High|Medium|Medium|Low|Medium|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|Shiny Powder|Shinypowdertransparent.png|High|Medium|High|High|High|High|High|Medium|Low|Medium|Low|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|Glitter Powder|glitterpowdertransparent.png|High|Medium|High|High|High|High|High|Medium|Low|Medium|Low|Medium|bottom}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ===Purchasable accessories===<br /> These accessories can be bought, using [[berry|berries]] as a currency, from the [[Pick a Peck of Colors Flower Shop]] in [[Floaroma Town]].<br /> &lt;!--We need images of them!--&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Flowers====<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #A6D4FF; {{roundytl|10px}} border: 5px solid #1E90FF;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! Accessory<br /> ! Cost [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|(D/P)]]<br /> ! Cost [[Pokémon Platinum Version|(Platinum)]]<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Redflower.png]] Red Flower<br /> | 10 [[Razz Berry|Razz Berries]]<br /> | 1 [[Cheri Berry]]<br /> |-style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Pinkflower.png]] Pink Flower<br /> | 10 [[Bluk Berry|Bluk Berries]]<br /> | 1 [[Chesto Berry]] <br /> |-style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Whiteflower.png]] White Flower<br /> | 10 [[Nanab Berry|Nanab Berries]]<br /> | 1 [[Pecha Berry]]<br /> |-style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Blueflower.png]] Blue Flower<br /> | 30 [[Cornn Berry|Cornn Berries]]<br /> | 1 [[Oran Berry]]<br /> |-style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Orangeflower.png]] Orange Flower<br /> | 15 [[Magost Berry|Magost Berries]]<br /> | 1 [[Rawst Berry]]<br /> |-style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Yellowflower.png]] Yellow Flower<br /> | 15 [[Rabuta Berry|Rabuta Berries]]<br /> | 1 [[Aspear Berry]]<br /> |}<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Accessory/head}}<br /> {{Accessory|Red Flower|Redflower.png|Medium|High|Low|Medium|Medium|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|High|Medium|Medium|top}}<br /> {{Accessory|Pink Flower|Pinkflower.png|Medium|High|Low|Medium|Medium|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|High|Medium|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|White Flower|Whiteflower.png|High|Medium|Low|Medium|Medium|Medium|Medium|High|Low|High|Medium|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|Blue Flower|Blueflower.png|Medium|High|Low|Medium|Medium|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|High|Medium|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|Orange Flower|Orangeflower.png|Medium|High|Low|Medium|Medium|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|High|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|Yellow Flower|Yellowflower.png|High|High|Low|Medium|Medium|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|High|Medium|Medium|bottomm}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ====Specs====<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #A6D4FF; {{roundytl|10px}} border: 5px solid #1E90FF;&quot;<br /> |- <br /> ! Accessory<br /> ! Cost [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|(D/P)]]<br /> ! Cost [[Pokémon Platinum Version|(Platinum)]]<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Googlyspecs.png]] Googly Specs<br /> | 20 [[Nomel Berry|Nomel Berries]]<br /> | 1 [[Leppa Berry]]<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Blackspecs.png]] Black Specs<br /> | 20 [[Wepear Berry|Wepear Berries]]<br /> | 1 [[Persim Berry]]<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Gorgeousspecs.png]] Gorgeous Specs<br /> | 40 [[Pinap Berry|Pinap Berries]]<br /> | 10 [[Razz Berry|Razz Berries]]<br /> |}<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Accessory/head}}<br /> {{Accessory|Googly Specs|Googlyspecs.png|Medium|Medium|High|Low|Low|Medium|Medium|Low|High|High|Medium|High|top}}<br /> {{Accessory|Black Specs|Blackspecs.png|Low|High|High|Low|Low|High|Medium|Low|High|High|Medium|High}}<br /> {{Accessory|Gorgeous Specs|Gorgeousspecs.png|Low|High|High|High|Low|High|Medium|Low|Medium|High|Medium|High|bottom}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ====Misc====<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #A6D4FF;{{roundytl|10px}} border: 5px solid #1E90FF;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Accessory<br /> ! Cost [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|(D/P)]]<br /> ! Cost [[Pokémon Platinum Version|(Platinum)]]<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Sweetcandy.png]] <br /> | Sweet Candy<br /> | 30 [[Nanab Berry|Nanab Berries]]<br /> | 10 [[Bluk Berry|Bluk Berries]]<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Confetti.png]] <br /> | Confetti<br /> | 30 [[Razz Berry|Razz Berries]]<br /> | 10 [[Nanab Berry|Nanab Berries]]<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Coloredparasol.png]] <br /> | Colored Parasol<br /> | 50 [[Magost Berry|Magost Berries]]<br /> | 10 [[Wepear Berry|Wepear Berries]]<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Oldumbrella.png]] <br /> | Old Umbrella<br /> | 50 [[Pamtre Berry|Pamtre Berries]]<br /> | 10 [[Pinap Berry|Pinap Berries]]<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Spotlight.png]] <br /> | Spotlight<br /> | 80 [[Nomel Berry|Nomel Berries]]<br /> | 50 [[Cornn Berry|Cornn Berries]]<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Cape.png]] <br /> | Cape<br /> | 250 [[Cornn Berry|Cornn Berries]]<br /> | 100 [[Pamtre Berry|Pamtre Berries]]<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Standingmike.png]] <br /> | Standing Mike<br /> | 80 [[Bluk Berry|Bluk Berries]]<br /> | 50 [[Magost Berry|Magost Berries]]<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Surfboard.png]] <br /> | Surfboard<br /> | 180 [[Wepear Berry|Wepear Berries]]<br /> | 100 [[Watmel Berry|Watmel Berries]]<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Carpet.png]] <br /> | Carpet<br /> | 100 [[Spelon Berry|Spelon Berries]]<br /> | 50 [[Rabuta Berry|Rabuta Berries]]<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Retropipe.png]] <br /> | Retro Pipe<br /> | 120 [[Pamtre Berry|Pamtre Berries]]<br /> | 50 [[Nomel Berry|Nomel Berries]]<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Fluffybed.png]] <br /> | Fluffy Bed<br /> | 150 [[Watmel Berry|Watmel Berries]]<br /> | 100 [[Durin Berry|Durin Berries]]<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Mirrorball.png]] <br /> | Mirror Ball<br /> | 250 [[Durin Berry|Durin Berries]]<br /> | 100 [[Spelon Berry|Spelon Berries]]<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Photoboard.png]] <br /> | Photo Board<br /> | 200 [[Belue Berry|Belue Berries]]<br /> | 100 [[Belue Berry|Belue Berries]]<br /> |}<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Accessory/head}}<br /> {{Accessory|Sweet Candy|Sweetcandy.png|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|Low|Medium|High|Medium|High|top}}<br /> {{Accessory|Confetti|Confetti.png|Medium|High|High|Medium|High|High|High|Low|Medium|Medium|Medium|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|Colored Parasol|Coloredparasol.png|High|High|High|High|Medium|High|Medium|Low|Medium|Medium|High|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|Old Umbrella|Oldumbrella.png|Medium|Medium|High|Low|Medium|Medium|Medium|Low|High|High|High|High}}<br /> {{Accessory|Spotlight|Spotlight.png|High|Low|High|High|Medium|High|High|Low|Low|High|Medium|High}}<br /> {{Accessory|Cape|Cape.png|Low|High|High|Medium|High|High|Medium|Low|High|High|High|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|Standing Mike|Standingmike.png|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|Low|Medium|High|High|High}}<br /> {{Accessory|Surfboard|Surfboard.png|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|Low|High|Medium|Low|Medium|High|High|High}}<br /> {{Accessory|Carpet|Carpet.png|Medium|High|High|High|High|High|High|Low|Medium|High|Low|High}}<br /> {{Accessory|Retro Pipe|Retropipe.png|Medium|Medium|High|Low|Low|Medium|Low|Low|Medium|High|Medium|High}}<br /> {{Accessory|Fluffy Bed|Fluffybed.png|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|High|High|Medium|Low|Medium|High|Low|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|Mirror Ball|Mirrorball.png|High|Medium|High|High|Low|High|Medium|Low|Low|High|Low|High|bottom}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ===Contest prizes===<br /> ====Barrettes====<br /> These are won after defeating a Normal Rank Pokémon Super Contest for the first time in the category.<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #A6D4FF; {{roundytl|10px}} border: 5px solid #1E90FF;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! Accessory<br /> ! Category<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Pinkbarrette.png]] Pink Barrette<br /> | [[Cute Contest|Cute]] [[Pokémon Super Contest|Super Contests]] Award.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Redbarrette.png]] Red Barrette<br /> | [[Cool Contest|Cool]] [[Pokémon Super Contest|Super Contests]] Award.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Bluebarrette.png]] Blue Barrette<br /> | [[Beauty Contest|Beauty]] [[Pokémon Super Contest|Super Contests]] Award.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Yellowbarrette.png]] Yellow Barrette<br /> | [[Tough Contest|Tough]] [[Pokémon Super Contest|Super Contests]] Award.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Greenbarrette.png]] Green Barrette<br /> | [[Smart Contest|Smart]] [[Pokémon Super Contest|Super Contests]] Award.<br /> |}<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Accessory/head}}<br /> {{Accessory|Pink Barrette|Pinkbarrette.png|Medium|High|High|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|Low|Medium|Medium|Medium|Medium|top}}<br /> {{Accessory|Red Barrette|Redbarrette.png|Medium|High|High|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|Low|Medium|Medium|Medium|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|Blue Barrette|Bluebarrette.png|Medium|High|High|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|Low|Medium|Medium|Medium|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|Yellow Barrette|Yellowbarrette.png|Medium|Medium|High|High|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|Low|Medium|Medium|Medium|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|Green Barrette|Greenbarrette.png|Medium|High|High|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|Low|Medium|Medium|Medium|Medium|bottom}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ====Balloons====<br /> These are won after defeating a Great Rank Pokémon Super Contest for the first time in the category.<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #A6D4FF; {{roundytl|10px}} border: 5px solid #1E90FF;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! Accessory<br /> ! Category<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Pinkballoon.PNG|20px]] Pink Balloon <br /> | [[Cute Contest|Cute]] [[Pokémon Super Contest|Super Contests]] Award.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Redballoons.PNG|20px]] Red Balloons<br /> | [[Cool Contest|Cool]] [[Pokémon Super Contest|Super Contests]] Award.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Blueballoons.PNG|20px]] Blue Balloons<br /> | [[Beauty Contest|Beauty]] [[Pokémon Super Contest|Super Contests]] Award.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Yellowballoon.PNG|20px]] Yellow Balloon<br /> | [[Tough Contest|Tough]] [[Pokémon Super Contest|Super Contests]] Award.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Greenballoons.PNG|20px]] Green Balloons<br /> | [[Smart Contest|Smart]] [[Pokémon Super Contest|Super Contests]] Award.<br /> |}<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Accessory/head}}<br /> {{Accessory|Pink Balloon|Pinkballoon.PNG|Medium|High|High|Medium|High|High|High|Low|Medium|Medium|Low|Low|top}}<br /> {{Accessory|Red Balloons|Redballoons.PNG|Medium|High|High|Medium|High|High|High|Low|Medium|Medium|Low|Low}}<br /> {{Accessory|Blue Balloons|Blueballoons.PNG|Medium|High|High|Medium|High|High|High|Low|Medium|Medium|Low|Low}}<br /> {{Accessory|Yellow Balloon|Yellowballoon.PNG|High|High|High|Medium|High|High|High|Low|Medium|Medium|Low|Low}}<br /> {{Accessory|Green Balloons|Greenballoons.PNG|Medium|High|High|Medium|High|High|High|Low|Medium|Medium|Low|Low|bottom}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ====Headwear====<br /> These are won after defeating a Ultra Rank Pokémon Super Contest for the first time in the category.<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #A6D4FF; {{roundytl|10px}} border: 5px solid #1E90FF;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Accessory<br /> ! Category<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Laceheadress.png]] <br /> | Lace Headdress<br /> | [[Cute Contest|Cute]] [[Pokémon Super Contest|Super Contests]] Award.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Tophat.png]] <br /> | Top Hat<br /> | [[Cool Contest|Cool]] [[Pokémon Super Contest|Super Contests]] Award.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Silkveil.png]] <br /> | Silk Veil<br /> | [[Beauty Contest|Beauty]] [[Pokémon Super Contest|Super Contests]] Award.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Heroicheadband.png]] <br /> | Heroic Headband<br /> | [[Tough Contest|Tough]] [[Pokémon Super Contest|Super Contests]] Award.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Professorhat.png]] <br /> | Professor Hat<br /> | [[Smart Contest|Smart]] [[Pokémon Super Contest|Super Contests]] Award.<br /> |}<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Accessory/head}}<br /> {{Accessory|Lace Headress|Laceheadress.png|High|Low|High|High|Medium|High|Medium|Low|Medium|High|High|Medium|top}}<br /> {{Accessory|Top Hat|Tophat.png|Low|High|High|High|Medium|High|Medium|Low|High|High|Medium|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|Silk Veil|Silkveil.png|High|Medium|High|High|High|High|High|Low|Low|High|Medium|Medium}}<br /> {{Accessory|Heroic Headband|Heroicheadband.png|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|High|High|High|Low|Medium|High|Medium|Medium }}<br /> {{Accessory|Professor Hat|Professorhat.png|Medium|High|High|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|Low|Medium|High|High|High|bottom}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ====Stages====<br /> These are won after defeating a Master Rank Pokémon Super Contest for the first time in the category.<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #A6D4FF; {{roundytl|10px}} border: 5px solid #1E90FF;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Accessory<br /> ! Category<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Flowerstage.png]] <br /> | Flower Stage<br /> | [[Cute Contest|Cute]] [[Pokémon Super Contest|Super Contests]] Award.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Goldpedestal.png]] <br /> | Gold Pedestal<br /> | [[Cool Contest|Cool]] [[Pokémon Super Contest|Super Contests]] Award.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Glassstage.png]] <br /> | Glass Stage<br /> | [[Beauty Contest|Beauty]] [[Pokémon Super Contest|Super Contests]] Award.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Awardpodium.png]] <br /> | Award Podium<br /> | [[Tough Contest|Tough]] [[Pokémon Super Contest|Super Contests]] Award.<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Cubestage.png]] <br /> | Cube Stage<br /> | [[Smart Contest|Smart]] [[Pokémon Super Contest|Super Contests]] Award.<br /> |}<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Accessory/head}}<br /> {{Accessory|Flower Stage|Flowerstage.png|Medium|Medium|High|High|Low|High|Low|Low|Medium|High|Medium|High|top}} <br /> {{Accessory|Gold Pedestal|Goldpedestal.png|High|High|High|High|Low|High|Low|Low|Low|High|Medium|High}} <br /> {{Accessory|Glass Stage|Glassstage.png|High|Medium|High|High|Low|High|Low|Low|Medium|High|Medium|High}} <br /> {{Accessory|Award Podium|Awardpodium.png|High|Medium|High|Medium|Low|High|Low|Low|Medium|High|Medium|High}} <br /> {{Accessory|Cube Stage|Cubestage.png|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|Low|High|Low|Low|Medium|High|Medium|High|bottom}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ===Special===<br /> {| align=&quot;center&quot; style=&quot;background: #A6D4FF; {{roundytl|10px}} border: 5px solid #1E90FF;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Accessory<br /> ! Location<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Turtwigmask.png]] <br /> | {{p|Turtwig}} Mask<br /> | <br /> *If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}: [[Jubilife TV]] 2F<br /> *If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}: [[Veilstone Department Store]] 1F<br /> *If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}: [[Pastoria City]]<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Chimcharmask.png]] <br /> | {{p|Chimchar}} Mask<br /> | <br /> *If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}: [[Pastoria City]]<br /> *If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}: [[Jubilife TV]] 2F<br /> *If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}: [[Veilstone Department Store]] 1F<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Piplupmask.png]] <br /> | {{p|Piplup}} Mask<br /> | <br /> *If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}: [[Veilstone Department Store]] 1F<br /> *If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}: [[Pastoria City]]<br /> *If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}: [[Jubilife TV]] 2F<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Big_Tree.png]] <br /> | Big Tree<br /> | [[Eterna Forest]]<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Flag.png]] <br /> | Flag<br /> | {{rt|206|Sinnoh}}<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Crown.png]] <br /> | Crown<br /> | [[Pal Park]] ([[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FireRed]] in the GBA slot)<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Tiara.png]] <br /> | Tiara<br /> | [[Pal Park]] ([[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|LeafGreen]] in the GBA slot)<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #FFFFFF;&quot;<br /> | [[Image:Comet.png]] <br /> | Comet<br /> | Unknown<br /> |}<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Accessory/head}}<br /> {{Accessory|Turtwig Mask|Turtwigmask.png|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|Low|Medium|High|Low|Medium|top}} <br /> {{Accessory|Chimchar Mask|Chimcharmask.png|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|Low|Medium|High|Low|Medium}} <br /> {{Accessory|Piplup Mask|Piplupmask.png|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|Medium|High|Medium|Low|Medium|High|Low|Medium}} <br /> {{Accessory|Big Tree|Big Tree.png|Medium|Medium|Low|Medium|Medium|Medium|Low|High|Medium|High|Medium|High}} <br /> {{Accessory|Flag|Flag.png|Medium|High|High|Medium|High|High|High|Low|Medium|High|High|High}} <br /> {{Accessory|Crown|Crown.png|High|Medium|High|High|Medium|High|Medium|Low|Low|High|High|High}} <br /> {{Accessory|Tiara|Tiara.png|High|Medium|High|High|Medium|High|Medium|Low|Low|High|High|High}} <br /> {{Accessory|Comet|Comet.png|High|High|Low|High|Medium|High|Medium|High|Medium|High|Medium|High|bottom}} <br /> |}<br /> &lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> {{items}}<br /> <br /> {{Project ItemDex notice}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Items]]<br /> <br /> [[de:Accessoires]]<br /> [[ja:アクセサリー]]</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Bulbapedia_talk:Project_Moves_and_Abilities/Archive_1&diff=1245486 2010-11-05T17:03:25Z

<p>EzekielMaple: /* Just a little suggestion */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>== What goes and what don't ==<br /> <br /> I've just begin to edit some move pages and I was wondering what should go there. For example, a 2nd generation move (like Rain Dance) should have something like &quot;This move didn't exist on 1st generation&quot; under Effect - Generation I?<br /> : Don't bother creating a Generation I heading. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]&lt;/sub&gt; 01:44, 10 March 2006 (CST)<br /> <br /> Also, things like the fact that Stomp will deal double damage on a minimized foe, should be on the Stomp page, the Minimize page or in both?<br /> : Both. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]&lt;/sub&gt; 01:44, 10 March 2006 (CST)<br /> <br /> And finally, moves like Frenzy Plant or Volt Tackle should mention the way you could obtain them (since its uniqueness)?<br /> : Of course. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]&lt;/sub&gt; 01:44, 10 March 2006 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==New member==<br /> I would like to join the project as collaborator, who should I ask? [[User:Gambler|Gambler]] 09:27, 2 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Glitch attacks? ==<br /> <br /> Should we or should we not give the glitched attacks like TM06 articles? After all, we give the glitched Pokémon like [[Q]] separate articles... Why not the attacks as well? [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 03:12, 2 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Leaf Blade ==<br /> <br /> {{m|Leaf Blade}} seems to have [http://serebii.net/attackdex-dp/leafblade.shtml gained power] in Diamond/Pearl. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 15:27, 22 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Member number two ==<br /> <br /> Sign me up. This is pretty much the reason I joined here, hehe. I've got access to all of the GBA Pokémon games, so as far as research and whatnot, I believe I can get most (if not all) of the moves so far. By all means, let me know right away if I can be of assistance. -- [[user:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;'''J'''ioruji '''D'''erako.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]] 05:36, 16 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Alright, I have a question to start things off. On move pages that have been automatically added, the move's details are in a table on the right side of the screen. This contains the Type (electric, grass, etc), PP, dmg, among other things. One thing I notice is a &quot;Catagory:&quot; &lt;nowiki&gt;{{{damagecatagory}}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;. What is this supposed to read? Is it simply something added in that has nothing to do with the move? I've checked some moves that seem to have all the info, and they don't seem to have this heading in the table. -- [[user:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;'''J'''ioruji '''D'''erako.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]] 05:53, 16 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::That's supposed to be whether the move is [[Physical attack|physical]] or [[Special attack|special]] in [[Generation IV]]. Most, if not all, moves probably don't have the info, as we've mainly been focusing on the new Pokémon for the past few months... Now that we know all of their names, though, it'd be a good idea to have people focus on the MoveDex instead of the Pokédex, though it'd be a good idea to add the Pokédex and availability templates to the Pokémon articles... all 493 of them... --'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 06:53, 16 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Okay, I think I'll stick with Move discriptions for now, thanks... *shuffles away from the large scary number* -- [[user:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;'''J'''ioruji '''D'''erako.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]] 07:08, 16 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Actually, the amount of moves is only a slight bit less than the amount of Pokémon, 467 compared to 493. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 08:25, 16 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::::Hey, 467's a small number compared to four-hundred and ninety-three. -- [[user:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;'''J'''ioruji '''D'''erako.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]] 08:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Images of the move ==<br /> <br /> I think that it would be a good idea to put a image of the move of the games or at least of the anime to make the Dex more complete. What do you think? --[[User:Empoleon Bonaparte|Bono]] 22:27, 17 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> :That sounds like a good project, but how hard would that end up being in the long run? Obviously, it's going to mean a lot of images... also, how will you get the images? I've got some experience with graphics as well, so providing it's not a big deal getting the images in the first place, I'm willing to help out with the uploading and formatting. -- [[user:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;'''J'''ioruji '''D'''erako.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]] 03:49, 18 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Lets take '''Signal Beam''' as example.<br /> [[Image:Signal Beam Game.jpg|'''Signal Beam''' in the Games.]]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br /> [[Image:Signal Beam Anime.jpg|'''Signal Beam''' in the Anime.]]<br /> <br /> It can be placed in the infobox, and its not so hard to make a screenshot of the moves. I don't think there was a legal problem, right??--[[User:Empoleon Bonaparte|Bono]] 16:54, 18 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::Would an animated gif work for the game screen? -[[User:Happy Mask Man|Happy Mask Man]] 17:24, 18 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::::That would be great, but i think is very VERY heavy in kb, they are an infinite of moves and everyone would have a gif, plus they are the jpges of the anime, so it's a LOT of bytes. Well, are you all agree with this sub-project?? --[[User:Empoleon Bonaparte|Bono]] 18:01, 18 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::::My only question at this point would be, wgere do we get the screencaps? Is there a site that doesn't mind up copying their pictures, or is there possibly a good way of gathering these screencaps ourselves? -- [[user:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;'''J'''ioruji '''D'''erako.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]] 04:32, 19 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::::Well, i guess everybody have at least one season of the anime in their PC, or we can wait the Episode of the Day Club of PM and make screenshots of the moves, and the images of the game, well, we can capture it of a rom of GBA, it's not so hard. PS: How can i be a official member?? :D --[[User:Empoleon Bonaparte|Bono]] 16:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> So, any ideas of how we can place the images?? I think it could be in the infobox, or in a special sub-section of the article?? because the infobox is pretty long right now. The other possibility is put them in the box and put the &quot;touches/can miss&quot; stuff in a sub-section for more space, to make the box don't be larger than the article. Anyone know how to edit the box? --[[User:Empoleon Bonaparte|Bono]] 00:22, 21 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I can edit the boxes if need be. I think the box could be made wider, otherwise we're ending up with a lot of unused space next to it... I'll try to get an example posted in a bit (I'm restricted to typing with one hand atm, so bare with me). -- [[user:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;'''J'''ioruji '''D'''erako.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]] 08:25, 21 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> Here's an example...<br /> {| class=&quot;grayinfobox &quot; border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;width: 25%; max-width: 25%;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;header&quot; | Signal Beam&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span title=&quot;Signal Beam&quot; class=&quot;explain&quot; lang=&quot;ja&quot;&gt;シグナルビーム&lt;/span&gt;<br /> |-<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;font-size: smaller;&quot; | A strange beam attack that may confuse the foe.<br /> |-<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;divider&quot; style=&quot;background: #ccf;&quot; | [[Pokémon battles|Battles]]<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #f8f8ff;&quot;<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; align=center| [[Image:Signal Beam Game.jpg]]<br /> |-<br /> ! [[Elemental types|Type]]<br /> | width=&quot;100%&quot; | [[Bug (type)|Bug]]<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #f8f8ff;&quot; <br /> ! Category<br /> | {{{damagecategory}}}<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #f8f8ff;&quot; <br /> ! PP<br /> | 15 (max. 24)<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #f8f8ff;&quot; <br /> ! Power<br /> | 75<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #f8f8ff;&quot; <br /> ! Accuracy<br /> | 100%<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #f8f8ff;&quot; <br /> | style=&quot;font-size: 0.90em;&quot; colspan=&quot;2&quot; | <br /> * Does not touch<br /> * '''Can Miss'''<br /> * Not affected by [[Snatch (move)|Snatch]]<br /> * Not affected by [[Magic Coat (move)|Magic Coat]]<br /> * '''Uses [[King's Rock]]'''<br /> * Does not use sound<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #f8f8ff;&quot; <br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;font-size: smaller;&quot; | ???<br /> |}<br /> <br /> So, how's this look? It would require a bit of tweaking to the move template, but it's doable. -- [[user:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;'''J'''ioruji '''D'''erako.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]] 08:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :If the image were to be centered, it'd look nicer. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 09:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think it looks awesome, i like it. Now, where we can place the anime image??, can be in the box, but we would have to take out a info of the box because it would be too long.<br /> <br /> This is just an idea, in the infobox will be just the general information:<br /> * Name of the move.<br /> * Name in japanese.<br /> * Move info.<br /> * Game image.<br /> * Type.<br /> * PP.<br /> * Power.<br /> * Accuracy.<br /> * Anime image.<br /> * Links.<br /> <br /> And in a little infobox in the left after descrption (''Move'' is a damage...)<br /> * '''Battles'''.<br /> * Touch/Miss/Snatch/Magic Coat/King's Rock/Sound info.<br /> * Battle description.<br /> * '''Contests'''.<br /> * Category.<br /> * Appeal.<br /> * Jam.<br /> * Contest description.<br /> <br /> ::Then the languages and the learnset. Now we have the info more organized and the learnset boxes not sooooo down. Somebody know how to cut the boxes just for the example?? what do you think??. --[[User:Empoleon Bonaparte|Bono]] 16:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> &lt;br&gt;Ok guys, TIME TO VOTE, i made some changes so ... wich looks better??<br /> :[[Signal Beam (move)|Example 1 - '''Signal Beam''']]&lt;br&gt;<br /> :[[Haze (move)|Example 2 - '''Haze''']]&lt;br&gt;<br /> Lets choose one and then we can make minor edits. --[[User:Empoleon Bonaparte|Bono]] 23:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think I like them both... how about we have the battle image in the infobox, and the anime image off to the side? Another thing I'd like to do is rearrange the formatting a bit, so the move details section of the page is next to the infobox, at the top of the page. White space ticks me off. :P I can get around to making another example of that as well, if you like. -- [[user:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;'''J'''ioruji '''D'''erako.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]] 00:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> :: Please do it, i hate white space too xD --[[User:Empoleon Bonaparte|Bono]] 00:26, 22 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::Hmm, formatting's proving to be a bit more challenging then I thought... the table of contents keeps getting in my way. Just thought I'd share a little way I found to remove the TOC... just add &lt;nowiki&gt;__NOTOC__&lt;/nowiki&gt; to the page. There's another code that can be added in as well to re-insert the TOC somewhere else, out of the way.<br /> :::Since I don't have move images to use for an example, I'll make a copy of one of your examples in my userspace temporarily until I get the formatting figured out. -- [[user:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;'''J'''ioruji '''D'''erako.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]] 00:59, 22 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Use it man, those images are now property of Bulbapedia. --[[User:Empoleon Bonaparte|Bono]] 01:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::I'd definitely recommend keeping the damage category in there. Now that DP doesn't define them by their type anymore, you have to see the damage type in order to determine whether it utilizes the Attack or Special Attack stat. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 03:33, 22 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::::Ah, wonderful. (is speaking sarcastically.) I took a break from editing up a good example article, and promptly lost my internet connection for a whole day. Hopefully I can get a working example up in a bit, though no promises, obviously. -- [[user:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;'''J'''ioruji '''D'''erako.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]] 21:16, 22 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::::Alright, took much longer then expected, but I've got a small example page up [[User:Jioruji Derako/Signal Beam (move)|here]]. I noticed that the coding for the learnset list was lengthening the page, so I removed it. This leaves a bit more room to mess around, I think. Still need a spot to put the Anime image; and could use a bit more writing on the page. Feel free to edit what I've got set up. -- [[user:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;'''J'''ioruji '''D'''erako.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]] 05:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hmm... Maybe a sub-heading of &quot;In the anime&quot; detailing what the first episode it was used in was, whether any of the characters' Pokémon know it, and so on...? Perhaps putting the picture on the left side of that heading's details would work... --'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 09:41, 29 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Man, thats exactly what i've been thinking in a day or so xD. So that's it, we will use the infobox of Jioruji and in the new sub-heading &quot;In the anime&quot; the picture in the left, the episodes where it has been used (if they are few, we can't put the list of episodes for the move Thunder, that would be sick :P) and the differences between the same move in different Pokémon. --[[User:Empoleon Bonaparte|Bono]] 18:36, 29 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::Same thing if you looked for Water Gun in the anime, nearly every one of Ash's Water-types have used it. I think that the first episode it was used in would be good, with the main characters' Pokémon that have used it being listed as well. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 18:41, 29 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::::Totally, so the descrption of the anime section would be the image, the Pokémon/Trainer/Episode where it has been used and the differences between the same move in different Pokémon. --[[User:Empoleon Bonaparte|Bono]] 18:49, 29 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> The prototype is ready ... [[Signal Beam]] ... The infobox now has the place for the image and the project page has an anime structure. Finally we can put the images in the articles. REMEMBER, the anime image has to show the entire move and has to be impressive to look :P , please let's not fight for this-one-is-better-than-that-one, but if you have an image that explain better the move or if is way prettier, edit the article. --[[User:Empoleon Bonaparte|Bono]] 02:29, 30 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I took a bit of a break there, but nice to see everything's been set up while I was gone. :P I don't have a way to get screencaps, but let me know if there's anything else I can help out on (I'll probably get to work on more detailed discriptions if I can, at some point). -- [[user:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;'''J'''ioruji '''D'''erako.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]] 10:12, 2 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: That would be great, i'm not so good in the descriptions, i prefeer the caps :P --[[User:Empoleon Bonaparte|Bono]] 23:17, 3 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I've been playing around with {{m|Protect}} since we had a picture of Elekid using it. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] 16:45, 15 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Smeargle ==<br /> <br /> We HAVE to put Smeargle in every breeding box??, it really can learn all the moves or only many of them?? --[[User:Empoleon Bonaparte|Bono]] 03:23, 31 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> : Any move that can be {{m|Sketch}}ed can be learnt by Smeargle. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]&lt;/sub&gt; 06:10, 31 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == TMs with constant attacks. ==<br /> <br /> [[TM06]], [[TM14]], [[TM15]], [[TM22]], [[TM25]], [[TM26]], [[TM28]], [[TM29]], [[TM32]], [[TM38]], and [[TM44]] have never changed which move they teach, however they are all disambiguation pages. I was under the impression that disambiguation pages are supposed to point towards two or more pages that could be confused, but in these cases the pages only point to one page. Also, all of the TMs over 50 redirect to their corresponding moves, so would it be all right to change all of these to redirects? [[User:Drapion|Drapion]] 01:58, 11 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : For consistency, I'd say leave them. On the other hand, perhaps these should be expanded from mere disambiguation pages to item pages like on the Japanese Pokémon wiki, which lists prices and locations. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]&lt;/sub&gt; 02:05, 11 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : Yeah, consistency was my reasoning, particularly for the category. TM51+ are just redirects because they have all only been in one generation. (We can deal with [[Generation V]] when we get to it.) --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] 16:45, 15 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Yet another new member ==<br /> <br /> I've got time on my hands and nothing to fill it with, so if there's no objections I'd like to become a collaborator. Who do I have to ask? - [[User:Mronimusha|mronimusha]]<br /> <br /> :I think you just need to add your name to the list, really. There's no one person in charge of this, I don't think. And of course, you don't need to be part of the project to contribute to the project. :D -- [[user:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;'''J'''ioruji '''D'''erako.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]] 18:04, 23 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Member ==<br /> <br /> I'm a new member and i'm from Italy, so I added some attacks'name in italian. I can continue, maybe doing something (like adding my name in list)? Excuse for my english.<br /> <br /> == Another member ==<br /> <br /> I'd like to contribute to the MoveDex project too. [[User:SSBMboss|SSBMboss]] 11:54, 12 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I'm joining ==<br /> <br /> Like the title says, I'm interested in joining to help out with this project. --[[User:Metallica Freak|Metallica Freak]] 13:27, 1 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Anime images ==<br /> <br /> I realize the Project guidelines state that all pics be 240px, but I personally think putting the &lt;nowiki&gt;&lt;gallery&gt;&lt;/nowiki&gt; tags around them looks a lot better. The way it's currently at, there's so much white space on the page. I don't know if it should be changed or not, but I just wanted to know what everybody else thinks. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt; 20:50, 29 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I think that it's fine as it is, in 'gallery', the pics are too small. --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7F00&quot;&gt;Theryguy&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 20:54, 29 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> :The size of the pictures in the gallery is fine. It also improves the presentation of the page when there are multiple pictures and I did make a note above when I first made such an edit without complaint. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&lt;/sup&gt; 14:23, 30 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Just to clarify, it's fine for the pictures to be 240px if there is only one on the page. But there seems to be trend of more images on one page arising and in that case we need to use the gallery for sanity of layout. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&lt;/sup&gt; 14:44, 1 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::Ga-ler-ry! You can click to enlarge it anyway. Without gallery, everything seems so much longer for no reason. [[User:Tina|Tina]]&lt;sup&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 02:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Okay, I know everyone already hates me for this (and probaly other reasons too with I hope you forgive me), but how about we settle this with a Bulbapedia Poll. Until we decide that can everyone agree (for now, at least) to leave the pictures the orginal way??? Please, at least just for now! --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7F00&quot;&gt;Theryguy&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 00:18, 5 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Okay. Why the heck do we need to decide everything with a poll? Seriously. The talk page is here for a reason. [[User:Tina|Tina]]&lt;sup&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I actually agree. I'm not saying I take your side, but a poll is a good idea. -[[Image:Spr 3e 186.gif|30px]][[User:Politoed666|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#30D5C8&quot;&gt;ニョロトノ&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Politoed666|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4&quot;&gt;''666''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Image:Spr 3e 186.gif|30px]]<br /> ::No! No more polls! Provide an actual reason for why we shouldn't use the gallery. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Reasons why I say polls - 1. It's smaller. You can click to enlarge pictures anyway. 2. It's clean-looking. 3. Why not? The gallery is there for a reason, it's there for when you need a small area but show lots of pictures. [[User:Tina|Tina]]&lt;sup&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:29, 5 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Okay, fine. I guess the gallery won't be so bad.....You win. --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7F00&quot;&gt;Theryguy&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 02:28, 5 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == TMs ==<br /> <br /> (Now I remember the reason why I came to the talk page in the first place..) I think we should include if the move is a TM, which number it is, what Generations did it appear in, where to find it... but rather brief, like Route XXX, or XXX Gym.. I dunno. Just a suggestion. If there is one, hit me on the head and show me where. [[User:Tina|Tina]]&lt;sup&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 02:13, 2 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New Member ==<br /> <br /> I can help with the translations of the moves.<br /> <br /> == Confusion ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I've just joined the project, and am currently working on adding wikilinks to all the articles for moves that cause confusion. Before I started, not one of them had a link for a person to find out more about confusion. Since some of the articles have differing levels of content, here is how I determined which instance of the word (confuse/confused/confusion) to link:<br /> # If the word occurs in the articles lead paragraph, link the first instance of it there.<br /> # If not, but it appears in the Effects section, link the first occurence in that section.<br /> # If not in the lead paragraph, and there is no Effects section, link the word where it appears in the description of the infobox.<br /> I think every move should have an Effects section (a lot don't), and every move that causes confusion (or any other status effect) should say so in its lead paragraph, but I don't have time right now to do all that, this is easy. [[User:Dansiman|Dansiman]] 22:19, 17 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I wouldn't link in the infobox. Just add what it does in the opening paragraph if it doesn't say. &lt;span style=&quot;background:#FF9030&quot;&gt;'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|155|Fire echy}}&lt;span style=&quot;background:#664444&quot;&gt;[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD700&quot;&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E0E0E0&quot;&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;DS!&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;/span&gt; 02:44, 18 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Do we have a Stub-section template or something? You could just add Effect headers to moves that don't have them, and stub them. They'll need effect listings at some point anyway, putting the section there would make it simple and noticeable to anyone else passing by, that the move needs it's effect written up. -- [[user:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;'''J'''ioruji '''D'''erako.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]] 05:38, 18 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::Quick check; seems that &lt;nowiki&gt;{{gamestub}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; is the correct tag for that. Do we normally stub a section if it's unfinished, or are the tags reserved for only really unfinished articles? I would think at the least, if the Effect section is blank, then the page itself would qualify as a stub... -- [[user:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;'''J'''ioruji '''D'''erako.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]] 05:41, 18 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 'bats ==<br /> <br /> Hi guys, I figured this would be the best place to put this question, since it spans several articles:<br /> <br /> Do Zubat, Golbat and Crobat learn ''Scary Face'' in Generation II? Zubat and Golbat's pages say so, Crobat refers to ''Mean Look'' for that generation. I don't seem to find much conclusive evidence either way with a quick search online. The Mean Look page lists all three of them, though, for that generation; so my guess is that Scary Face should be removed from those move lists. Still, the situation's ambiguous enough that I'd rather someone with the game(s) at hand double-check that situation and clear up the inconsistency than 'be bold' myself. -[[User:Pinkgothic|Pinkgothic]] 18:20, 25 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == STAB ==<br /> <br /> Hmm... On Pokémon pages, we bolden the Pokémon that can learn a move and get STAB from it, and italicize those who can learn a move and whose evolutions can get STAB from it. Why not do that for the Pokémon names in the move articles? &lt;span style=&quot;background:#FF9030&quot;&gt;'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|155|Fire echy}}&lt;span style=&quot;background:#664444&quot;&gt;[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD700&quot;&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E0E0E0&quot;&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;DS!&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;/span&gt; 03:07, 16 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Sounds fairly simple of a process, '''bolding''' works on the Pokémon name templates we use right? -- [[user:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;'''J'''ioruji '''D'''erako.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]] 04:01, 16 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Generations ==<br /> <br /> Shouldn't moves be categorised by Generation? [[Image:Ani144MS.gif]] [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] [[Image:Ani249MS.gif]] 14:07, 26 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == One thing. ==<br /> <br /> For the images, I think there should be one image for each generation for the ''In the anime'' section. Also, I think there should be one Image for each generation for the in game picture. Just a thought. [[User:Tesh|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B7AD96;&quot;&gt;'''TESHIGIGAS'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 18:12, 29 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Oh, and I think the Headers are too big. [[User:Tesh|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B7AD96;&quot;&gt;'''TESHIGIGAS'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 18:12, 29 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Fixing the headers and changing the &quot;is a {{t|Normal}}-type move&quot; to &quot;is a {{type2|Normal}} move&quot; is what I've been doing. As for each gen having an in-game shot, yes, certainly... but it should be in a gallery under &quot;effect&quot;. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 21:36, 29 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::Ever since you made that edit on Ash's page, the Level 1 Headers seemed so alien to me. So I've changed every other page I've come across, other than Pokémon pages and Move pages. It seems to be grouped better without the grey lines. So can I change the Pokémon pages? [[User:Tesh|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B7AD96;&quot;&gt;'''TESHIGIGAS'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 18:20, 1 March 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::Why don't you ask Zhen Lin to program BulbaBot to do that? --'''[[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7F00&quot;&gt;Theryguy&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 18:26, 1 March 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Mystery Dungeon Data ==<br /> <br /> Are there plans on adding any data that's specific to Mystery Dungeon? The data we need is the following:<br /> * Base Power<br /> * PP (as they likely differ between MD and the main games)<br /> * Accuracy (as they likely differ between MD and the main games)<br /> * Probability of critical<br /> * Attack ranges (line range, all in room, one space cuts corners, etc)<br /> * Flags<br /> ** Affected by {{m|Magic Coat}}<br /> ** Affected by {{m|Snatch}}<br /> ** Affected by Muzzled status<br /> ** Does not damage frozen opponents<br /> ** Affected by {{m|Taunt}}<br /> ** Affected by Ginseng<br /> * Other possible side effects that may differ from the main games (such as {{m|Crunch}} being a 40% cringer instead of lowering (S)Def)<br /> <br /> :: I am interested in helping with PMD if anything gets started--[[User:Inspyre|Inspyre]] 21:18, 13 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> [[User:KelvSYC|KelvSYC]] 06:39, 28 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wants to join ==<br /> <br /> I want to join this project, too. I just finished editing {{m|Dragon Rush}}. Please proofread. Thanks. [[User:JirachiWishmaker0802|JirachiWishmaker0802]] 10:40, 27 August 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 1024 x 768 ==<br /> <br /> Hey. The new learnset tables make some move pages not display real great on monitors with resolutions of 1024x768 or lower. Cause some of the tables are so long (vertically), they don't start until the infobox on the right ends.<br /> <br /> It doesn't affect all pages - ones with decent ''In the anime'' sections are fine, but for moves like {{m|Pound}}, it just makes the page look dumb. Is anyone concerned about this? Obviously, it's not a huge issue. It just looks not great on my tiny laptop screen. -[[User:Pat|Pat]] 14:46, 27 August 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Move tutor ==<br /> <br /> Does that also go into play? We still need work on this... [[User:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#D5AA00&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;''ht''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000CC&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;''14''&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 01:48, 6 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Descriptions ==<br /> <br /> I have seen descriptions on move pages saying stuff like &quot;somewhat damaging&quot; and &quot;fairly accurate&quot;. Is there any guidelines for what is considered what, or should these be edited out, or {Insert a third option that I am able to think of at the moment} [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 17:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I think those labels are too opinionated, along with the &quot;deals very little damage&quot; statements, so I'm removing them until a better option is found. Plus, people could just look at the move's information on the side of the page. [[User:Tesh|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6A7B8B; font-family: Georgia;&quot;&gt;TESH&lt;/span&gt;]][[User_talk:Tesh|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#394A5A; font-family: Georgia;&quot;&gt;IGIGAS&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:14, 27 November 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == In the anime templates ==<br /> <br /> This might be a silly question, but what's the difference between the movemid and movebtm templates? Or rather, when should you use which one? --[[User:Snowrunt|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF9900&quot;&gt;Snowrunt&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Snowrunt|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD700&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]] [[Special:Contributions/Snowrunt|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF9999&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]] 03:08, 13 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> :btm for the most bottom one. It basically adds a curve at the ends. &lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Cracked; font-size:125%&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#303030;&quot;&gt;tc&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt;[[User:Tc26|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#e03828;&quot;&gt;²₆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Tc26|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#303030;&quot;&gt;tc&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User:Tc26/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#e03828;&quot;&gt;26&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt; 03:10, 13 June 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 3rd gen. screenshots ==<br /> <br /> Should we replace current screenshots from 3rd gen games for 4 gen ones?--[[User talk:AOS|AOS]] 09:19, 21 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> :[[User:Kenji-girl/DPPt move picture update|YOU. Join my project. NOW!]] You'll see it is a work already in progress. --[[Tracey Sketchit|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#33CC66;&quot;&gt;'''ケンジ'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#6600CC;&quot;&gt;'''の'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Kenji-girl|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF00CC;&quot;&gt;'''ガール'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 09:36, 21 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Done, I'll strikethrough the moves that I updated later--[[User talk:AOS|AOS]] 10:26, 21 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::KG, mind if I add a link to your page there on the main Project page? --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt; '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;''.cнаt'''''^'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 17:00, 21 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Mystery Dungeon Data. ==<br /> <br /> Mystery Dungeon Data would be nice to add. But how much? And where? Should there be a new template, and what should it have? I would personally like to see some more data about the effects of moves in PMD, and I am willing to add whatever I can. {{unsigned|Inspyre}}<br /> <br /> :Well first off, don't forget to sign your comments with four tildes (&lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;).<br /> :On to the topic though. We do have hopes for a template or section within each move article for the PMD versions of them; I personally only play the regular series of games, so I can't provide any data on the PMD moves. If I can get enough data to design a template for it, then it will be a simple matter of putting the template into each move article and having people like yourself fill in the details. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt; '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;''.cнаt'''''^'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 02:00, 15 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Jio, all that would be required for a template for moves would be quite the same as normal moves, their PP and power is quite different, and there are MD exclusive moves...--[[User:PsychicRider|&lt;sup style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;'''Psychic'''&lt;/sup&gt;]][[User talk:PsychicRider|&lt;sub style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;'''Rider'''&lt;/sub&gt;]]''&lt;small&gt;''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|&lt;sup style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;'''☮'''&lt;/sup&gt;]]''&lt;/small&gt; 02:04, 15 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == &quot;In the Manga&quot; ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:Megabayleef.PNG|thumb|200px|Razor Leaf]]<br /> I had a neat idea that we could start. You know how we have a section on most of the move articles that shows the move being used in the anime? Would it be too much work to do it for the manga too? For example for Razor Leaf we could show an image of lets say [[Mega]] using Razor Leaf from the Manga and then put it into this:<br /> <br /> {{moveanime|type=grass|exp=yes|gen=A sharp-edged leaf is launched to slash at the foe. It has a high critical-hit ratio.|image1=MayBulbasaur RazorLeaf.jpg|image1p=Bulbasaur|image2=Sunflorarazorleaf.jpg|image2p=Sunflora|image3=Turtwig RazorLeaf.jpg|image3p=Turtwig|image4=Grotle Razor Leaf.jpg|image4p=Grotle}}<br /> {{movep|type=grass|ms=001|pkmn=Bulbasaur|method=Razor-sharp Leaves come out from under its bulb and fly into the opponent.}}<br /> {{movemid|type=grass|user=Ash's Bulbasaur|startcode=EP025|startname=Primeape goes Bananas|note=Debut}}<br /> {{movemid|type=grass|user=May's Venusaur|user1=May's Bulbasaur|startcode=AG073|startname=Grass Hysteria}}<br /> {{movep|type=grass|ms=003|pkmn=Venusaur|method=Venusaur launches multiple razor-sharp leaves from its back.}}<br /> {{movemid|type=grass|user=Corey|user1=Corey's Bruteroot|startcode=Mewtwo Strikes Back}}<br /> {{movemid|type=grass|user=James|user1=A Venusaur James borrows from the Battle Park|startcode=EP248|startname=One Trick Phony!}}<br /> {{movep|type=grass|ms=069|pkmn=Bellsprout|method=Bellsprout launches two razor sharp leaves from the two large leaves on its stem.}}<br /> {{movemid|type=grass|user=Jeanette Fisher|user1=Jeanette Fisher's Bellsprout|startcode=EP077|startname=The Fourth Round Rumble}}<br /> {{movemid|type=grass|user=Zackie|user1=Zackie's Bellsprout|startcode=EP130|startname=A Bout with Sprout}}<br /> {{movep|type=grass|ms=070|pkmn=Weepinbell|method=Weepinbell spins around in a circle, and bunches of leaves come out and fly at the opponent.}}<br /> {{movemid|type=grass|user=Erika|user1=Erika's Weepinbell|startcode=EP026|startname=Pokémon Scent-Sation}}<br /> {{movep|type=grass|ms=071|pkmn=Victreebel|method=Victreebel launches razor sharp leaves from the two large leaves on the sides of its body.}}<br /> {{movemid|type=grass|user=James's Victreebel|startcode=EP095|startname=A Shipful of Shivers}}<br /> {{movemid|type=grass|user=James's second Victreebel|startcode=EP261|startname=Here's Lookin' at You, Elekid}}<br /> {{movep|type=grass|ms=152|pkmn=Chikorita|method=Chikorita swings its head and razor-sharp leaves fly out from the leaf on its head.}}<br /> <br /> {{movemid|type=grass|user=Casey's Meganium|user1=Casey's Chikorita|startcode=EP118|startname=The Double Trouble Header|endcode=EP161|endname=The Bug Stops Here}}<br /> {{movemid|type=grass|user=Ash's Bayleef|user1=Ash's Chikorita|startcode=EP126|startname=The Chikorita Rescue|endcode=EP199|endname=Current Events}}<br /> {{movemid|type=grass|user=Kotone (anime)|user1=Kotone's Chikorita|startcode=DP143}}<br /> {{movep|type=grass|ms=153|pkmn=Bayleef|method=Bayleef swings its head and multiple razor-sharp leaves fly out from the leaf on its head.}}<br /> {{movemid|type=grass|user=Casey's Meganium|user1=Casey's Bayleef|startcode=EP161|startname=The Bug Stops Here}}<br /> {{movemid|type=grass|user=Ash's Bayleef|startcode=EP199|startname=Current Events}}<br /> {{movep|type=grass|ms=154|pkmn=Meganium|method=Meganium swings its head and razor-sharp leaves fly out from the antennas on <br /> Meganium's head.}}<br /> {{movemid|type=grass|user=Vincent's Meganium|user1=Jackson's Meganium|startcode=EP268|startname=Tie One On!}}<br /> {{movep|type=grass|ms=182|pkmn=Bellossom|method=Bellossom spins and razor-sharp leaves fly out.}}<br /> {{movemid|type=grass|user=Bellossom (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer's Bellossom|startcode=DP086|startname=Arriving in Style!}}<br /> {{movep|type=grass|ms=192|pkmn=Sunflora|method=Sunflora's petals glow white, then Sunflora slashes its foe.}}<br /> {{movemid|type=grass|user=Nando|user1=Nando's Sunflora|startcode=DP036|startname=A Secret Sphere of Influence!}}<br /> {{movemid|type=grass|user=Sunflora (Pokémon)|user1=Sunflora|startcode=Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time &amp; Darkness}}<br /> {{movep|type=grass|ms=271|pkmn=Lombre|method=Lombre spins its entire body, releasing sharp leaves in the process.}}<br /> {{movemid|type=grass|user=Brock's Ludicolo|user1=Brock's Lombre|startcode=AG063|startname=Take the Lombre Home!|endcode=AG105|endname=Once in a Mawile}}<br /> {{movep|type=grass|ms=274|pkmn=Nuzleaf|method=Razor-sharp leaves fly out from the leaf on Nuzleaf's head.}}<br /> {{movemid|type=grass|user=Nuzleaf (Pokémon)|user1=A Wild Nuzleaf|startcode=DP014|startname=Leave it to Brocko!}}<br /> {{movep|type=grass|ms=387|pkmn=Turtwig|method=Turtwig swings its head and razor-sharp leaves fly out from the leaves on its head.}}<br /> {{movemid|type=grass|user=Ash's Grotle|user1=Ash's Turtwig|startcode=DP004|startname=Gettin' Twiggy With It!|endcode=DP100|endname=Aiding the Enemy!}}<br /> {{movemid|type=grass|user=Gardenia's Turtwig|startcode=DP031|startname=The Grass-Type is Always Greener!}}<br /> {{movep|type=grass|ms=388|pkmn=Grotle|method=Razor-sharp leaves fly out from the bushes on its back.}}<br /> {{movemid|type=grass|user=Ash's Grotle|startcode=DP100|startname=Aiding the Enemy!}}<br /> {{movep|type=grass|ms=459|pkmn=Snover|method=Snover releases sharp leaves from its hand.}}<br /> {{movebtm|type=grass|user=Candice|user1=Candice's Snover|startcode=DP127|startname=Sliding Into Seventh!}}<br /> Do you understand what I am getting at? --[[User:Landfish7| &lt;font color=&quot;red&quot;&gt;Land&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Broadway&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;fish&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[Dawn's Cyndaquil|&lt;font color=&quot;gold&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;7&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]] 19:15, 18 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :That might work out nicely, assuming we can get manga scans easily. Perhaps I'll see if I can rough up a &quot;In the Manga&quot; template soon. (poke me if I take too long.) --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt; '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;''.cнаt'''''^'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 22:19, 18 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Thanks, It's nice to feel like I've started something useful for Bulbapedia. I'll remind you if it has been a while like you requested. --[[User:Landfish7| &lt;font color=&quot;red&quot;&gt;Land&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Broadway&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;fish&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[Dawn's Cyndaquil|&lt;font color=&quot;gold&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;7&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]] 00:05, 21 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::I've got a template up and running. It's just a matter of, do we have enough manga scans of moves to make the section worthwhile?<br /> :::I'd like to implement the section in a few articles, I just want to have enough content to fill those sections. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt; '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;''.cнаt'''''^'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 07:43, 21 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::I guess we'll have to look into that. It wouldn't be a big deal if only a few moves could use it. Well tell me whatever you want me to do when you are ready. Of course unles you want to take care of it yourself. The reason I came up with the idea is because there are some major differences between the manga, the games, and the anime. If we did this we could not only see what the move looks like in the anime but we could see the differences between the two.--[[User:Landfish7| &lt;font color=&quot;red&quot;&gt;Land&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Broadway&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;orange&quot;&gt;fish&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[Dawn's Cyndaquil|&lt;font color=&quot;gold&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;7&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/font&gt;]] 22:32, 21 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::Hmm, I suppose it wouldn't be a big deal, no. Let's see, we've got one scan of Razor Leaf at least...<br /> :::::If you want to go ahead and see what moves could use the manga template, I'm all for it. You can post a list here or something. Once we have enough moves ready for it (even if it's just a few), I'll &quot;officially&quot; create the template and we can start adding it to move articles. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt; '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;''.cнаt'''''^'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 14:09, 23 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::What we need to do is get someone (or some people) to upload pictures of pokemon from the manga using moves. Then we could gather the pictures up in somebody's (probably yours) userspace and they can be responsible for making the templates and putting them in the articles. I'm not sure how this will all be in the longrun but it's just a suggestion. With the anime articles they don't use templates like how you would use an image. So we would have to copy and paste the code into the article. Do you understand what I mean? --[[User:Landfish7| &lt;font color=&quot;red&quot;&gt;Land&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Broadway&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;blue&quot;&gt;fish&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;7&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/font&gt; 15:46, 25 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> :I've brought this up before [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Manga#Moves|here]], and the decision was not to include them, and having started reading the manga, it's understandable as the attacks are mostly left unanamed, leaving them unidentifiable, or open to discussion. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 12:28, 9 November 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::It might still warrant addition, however only on a few moves (Razor Leaf is fairly easy to spot, as are a few others). I'll have to see. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt; '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;''.cнаt'''''^'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 19:31, 9 November 2009 (UTC)<br /> So what are we going to do next then? I'm pretty eager to help if I knew what to do. Right now I am willing to look through the internet and find as many moves as possible but I am not really familiar with uploading new files which is why I haven't done such. If I can figure this out, I have a way of getting the pictures. So, anyone willing to learn me how to upload a file.--[[User:Landfish7| &lt;font color=&quot;blue&quot;&gt;Land&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Broadway&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;fish&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;font color=&quot;red&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;7&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/font&gt; 02:15, 28 November 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::So long as the images you find aren't copyrighted under someone else's license (i.e., they're found on another website that uses the CC by-nc-sa license, or they're from an official site), you can save the file to your computer, go to the Archives, and upload it through the [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Upload &quot;upload media&quot;] sidebar link. Just need to give it a descriptive filename, like &quot;Razor Leaf manga1.jpg&quot; or something along those lines.<br /> :::&lt;strike&gt;Here, I have a working Manga tamplate in my userspace; feel free to start testing on the talk page right there (I've already got a basic test up there).&lt;/strike&gt; I still don't want to move the template to the mainspace until we're 1. positive we can use it in at least a few move articles, and 2. we have enough images (or perhaps at least enough information) to fill the section. (Perhaps it would be acceptable to only have one or two images per move, so long as there's enough information to fill up the rest of the template.)<br /> :::Standard userspace rules apply to everyone's userspace, so try not to make too many edits if you're going to test anything. Everyone's allowed to edit the page I linked to, however. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt; '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;''.cнаt'''''^'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 12:23, 28 November 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::So what are we waiting for? All we need to do now is find pictures of the '''confirmed''' move. --''Merry Christmas!'' '''[[User:Landfish7| &lt;font color=&quot;red&quot;&gt;Land&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Broadway&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;fish&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;font color=&quot;purple&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;7&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/font&gt; 21:32, 17 December 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::I'm going through the manga, (albeit at my own pace, so whenever i have time) and collecting images from the manga we can use, including attacks, I've done the first three so far, however, most of the attacks I have got the attacks for, the names weeren't said, but it is implied, or can be decently assumed. See my userpage for the images I have collected.--[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 00:27, 19 December 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Hmm, seems like Vine Whip, Razor Leaf, and other such moves are pretty easy to find in the manga; perhaps we can scrounge up enough to fill a few move pages.<br /> ::::::Spriteit, think you can upload a few of those confirmed move scans? Maybe with a few of those, we can get started on a page or two, see how it works out. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt; '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;''.cнаt'''''^'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 13:30, 19 December 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::::From up to chap 3 only two moves have been named, SolarBeam and Water Gun ([[a:file:PABulbasaurSolarBeamCharge.JPG|Solar Beam Charging]], [[a:file:PABulbasaurSolarBeamHit.jpg|SolarBeam Firing]], [[a:file:PAPoliwhirl Water Gun.jpg|Water Gun]]). The only problem I can see that we face is the inconsistency in regards to image sizes of the different panels, that, and getting completely clean shots. I'm gonna try to do up to chapter 10 tonight. Thanks ery much for your help also Jioruji.--[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 06:32, 20 December 2009 (UTC)<br /> :With such a small number of confirmed, named moves, I don't think an &quot;In the manga&quot; section is going to work as a template in every page; however, for the few that are confirmed, I do think they should be in the move articles.<br /> :Let's try to focus on those named moves for now; I'm not sure if it would be easier to display this information in a template, or in some other form, but as an encyclopedia, I do think it should be noted. We'll try to collect what we can on the confirmed moves for now, and start adding them to pages later on.<br /> :I'll add a bit of what we've got to &lt;strike&gt;my userspace&lt;/strike&gt;, feel free to edit that yourselves as well. And thanks for the scans, Spriteit. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt; '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;''.cнаt'''''^'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 14:02, 21 December 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==New Logo?==<br /> I was thinking mabye we could change the logo of the project to just {{p|Mew}}, for obvious reasons. {{unsigned|Missingletter}}<br /> :Perhaps if we ever need a new logo, Mew will be top of the list. However, I don't think the logo is quite that important at the moment. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt; '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;''.cнаt'''''^'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 09:12, 19 November 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Inconsistency on Generation I==<br /> As everyone who works on this project probably knows (those that care about Generation I, at least), the battle system is set up oddly in Generation I in that every attack has a 1/256 chance of missing or not having an additional effect activate in addition to its commonly listed failure rate. This is displayed in all of the additional effect descriptions of the moves (most of them, anyways), but is not listed for their accuracies. It just seems inconsistent to me to say that Stomp has a 100% accuracy, but a 29.7% chance of causing the foe to flinch. <br /> <br /> Personally, I think that we should just have everything listed at its face value, ignoring the 1/256 chance. The only time people really would care is when the &quot;100%&quot; things miss, and it would be kind of extreme to have every move have a Genration I Accuracy line. But that's just my opinion. Any thoughts? [[User:Schreiber|Schreiber]] 23:09, 1 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I'm in favor of fixing these for consistency. Like you said, the 1/256 chance isn't tied to each move, it's the whole battle system, so technically, those move effects have a 30% chance of triggering, not 29.7% (the 1/256 chance is more or less seperate).<br /> :The subtleties of the Gen. I battle system can be listed in higher articles (such as the ones on Gen. I in general), so I'll say it's better to list the move effects without that 1/256 chance taken into account. (I believe I've occasionally edited some moves as such already, anyway.) --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt; '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;''.cнаt'''''^'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 02:48, 2 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I'll get the rest, then. [[User:Schreiber|Schreiber]] 05:45, 2 January 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The poor quality of the screenshots ==<br /> <br /> I don't know if anybody besides me has noticed this at all, but in pretty much every single screenshot that I see, there are these ugly black blocks everywhere... and when I play any Gen IV game on my DS, none of this ugly black junk is there. For example, the in the {{m|Sunny Day}} article, the sun's rays are outlined with black squares everywhere. For another example, in the {{m|Fire Blast}} article, the flame has an outline of black blocks around it. I don't see any black on my DS. The list goes on: there is no shortage of screenshots with black blocks everywhere. It seems that whenever there's supposed to be translucency, it's replaced with black instead, for some reason. It seems that people use some emulator (which, by the way, I personally frown upon using emulators for a current gen system, because that hurts Nintendo) with poor emulation quality. Is it possible that there's a different emulator without this very noticeable flaw, use Gen III screenshots instead (since VisualBoyAdvance DEFINITELY doesn't have this issue), or maybe use a photograph of a real DS? (Although, the latter may be problematic too, but at least it doesn't have the glaring black crap all over every screenshot.) --[[User:Blaziken257|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F08030;&quot;&gt;'''Blaz'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Blaziken257|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C03028;&quot;&gt;'''iken'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Blaziken257|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#302000;&quot;&gt;'''257'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 17:03, 28 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> :That's why I have been uploading replacement screenshots for moves, or at least asking other people to overwrite the bad image these days as I had had enough of the lack of alpha transparency in the screenshots. --[[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 11:46, 1 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Partial trapping moves ==<br /> <br /> We need a page for partial trapping moves, which i have seen scattered around several articles. I would write it myself, but there is a paradox: i get most of my fandom information from here, and therefore do not know what they are. Does anyone else think we need a page for it? [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 05:05, 27 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> &lt;br&gt;&lt;small&gt;[moved here from Bulbapedia talk:Project Fandom &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 06:52, 27 May 2010 (UTC)]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> :Partial trapping is moves like {{m|Wrap}}, {{m|Fire Spin}} and {{m|Whirlpool}} right? If so we have a list of them {{cat|Moves that trap for 2-5 turns|here}} which might help. &lt;sc&gt;[[User:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2D4B98;&quot;&gt;Werdnae&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sc&gt; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009000;&quot;&gt;(talk)&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 06:59, 27 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> Oh, i didn't know about that. I thought we should have a page, a category, or something for them. But we do. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 03:50, 26 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == One more suggestion ==<br /> <br /> An &quot;in Mystery Dungeon&quot; section for move articles. I am aware that spinoffs aren't the focus of this project, but they do work very, very differently in PMD than usually. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 06:43, 28 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The idea's been thrown around before, but nothing much has come of it (mainly because not a lot of editors have both the technical expertise to make such templates/pages, AND also play the side games). It's something that does need to be documented in some way, however, once we've worked out what exactly is needed, and what place there is for the information. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt; '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;''.cнаt'''''^'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 22:20, 28 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == smeargle link battles ==<br /> <br /> I've started raising a smeargle team, and I've noticed that when sketch is used in a link battle, any moves that smeargle will learn with sketch are instantly forgotten once the battle is over. This is not on the page for the move sketch, and i thought it would be helpful to anybody raising smeargles to not waste time like I did. ([[User:Anwill08|Anwill08]] 23:56, 30 October 2010 (UTC))<br /> :Just like Focus Sash being restored. I'll add that to Sketch's article for clarity. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 06:42, 31 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Just a little suggestion ==<br /> <br /> Since Gen v came out some pages are getting REALLY long, and even aren't complete (breeding),and it will be a nightmare if there's ever a &quot;Generation VI&quot; so i have the idea of putting the option to show the charts, for example... ''i'm playing DP and i want a Pokémon that can learn Aerial Ace by TM40'' so i can show the part that i want --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 17:03, 5 November 2010 (UTC)</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page/Archive_11&diff=1245476 2010-11-05T16:14:54Z

<p>EzekielMaple: </p> <hr /> <div>This is the {{bp|talk page}} for the Bulbapedia's front page. If you have a general comment about the wiki, please consider placing it in [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 our forum].'''<br /> <br /> == Previous discussions ==<br /> <br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]<br /> * [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10|Archive 10]]<br /> <br /> == Pokémon cries? ==<br /> Should we add Pokémon cries to the Pokémon articles?--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :It's been tried before, but it caused too many problems. It would still probably cause too much problems now.--[[User:Pokelova|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''Poké''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Pokelova|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;lova!&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10#Pokémon Cries|This has been discussed to death already.]] &lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;—&lt;small&gt;♥&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;b&gt;[[User:Jello|&lt;span style=&quot;color:orange;&quot;&gt;Jello&lt;/span&gt;]][[User Talk:Jello|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3FA9D0;&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;talk&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/b&gt; 20:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::We're going to try to get them put in as soon as possible. They've been sitting in a directory on the server for... jeez, at least a year. Last time we tried to put them in, the server exploded. Archaic's been wary of doing it since then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::Just out of curiosity, what file format was used for the cries? That may have been the problem.--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Over at de:, we have mp3 with the following syntax: &lt;nowiki&gt;{{#mp3:http://www.greenchu.de/nakigoe/025.mp3}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;. I cannot figure out where that parser functions comes from, though.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] [[User talk:Afrael|&lt;sup&gt;talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:59, 20 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::::I think having the files like [http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/#music Floatzel.net] have their music files could work well. We might even eventually be able to put route/town/cave music on the pages!--[[User:Pokelova|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''Poké''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Pokelova|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;lova!&lt;/span&gt;]] 04:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Move Trivia ==<br /> <br /> Should there be a trivia section for moves? For instance, only one Pokémon can learn [[Steel Wing]] by leveling up.--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 16:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :There are for some moves, but not all of them have any notable trivia to add, so there is no sub heading. If you think of '''notable''' trivia, then add the sub-heading and put it in. Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|&lt;font color=&quot;Blue&quot;&gt;Sam&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Samjohn95|&lt;font color=&quot;Purple&quot;&gt;john&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|&lt;font color=&quot;Teal&quot;&gt;95&lt;/font&gt;]] 21:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Glitch Pokémon ==<br /> <br /> Hi there. I remember when I was around nine, I used to play Pokémon Gold &amp; Crystal, and I remember there was this cloning trick that could clone pokémon and the items that they held. Anyways, I began to notice if I did the right trick at a certain time, (or whatever it was, it has been a while) I managed to get a special type of Pokémon, the trainer. The trainer of course, had no moves and therefore could only struggle, but you could use TMs and everything. I remember having fun with that, but I can't find any info on this.&lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Bublador}} ([[User talk:Bublador|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bublador|contribs]]) ''&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> Try this page, all of the glitches are on [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Glitches#All_Generations]] and please sign your comment when you use these talk pages. thank you --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 19:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> I'm just thinking if on every Pokémon's page that we have their Pronunciation somewhere? like this:<br /> <br /> Say: Sin-da-qwil<br /> <br /> What do you think?--&lt;small&gt;[[User:lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;KayKay&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;|&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:purple&quot;&gt;Chat to me!&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 07:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :It's a good idea, but I believe we've had problems with adding pronunciations in the past because of people not agreeing on the &quot;correct&quot; pronunciation (also, sometimes there are conflicting pronunciations from different official sources) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#006400&quot;&gt;'''Zesty'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#3CB371&quot;&gt;'''Cactus'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Oh oh then. I just though because some Pokémon I can't pronounce their names--&lt;small&gt;[[User:lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;KayKay&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;|&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:purple&quot;&gt;Chat to me!&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 07:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::If you have a look at the source of, say, Bulbasaur's page, you'll see this:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;{{PokémonInfobox|<br /> name=Bulbasaur |<br /> pron=&lt;sc&gt;''bul''-buh-sore&lt;/sc&gt; &lt;ref&gt;Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''. <br /> Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5&lt;/ref&gt; |<br /> jname=フシギダネ |<br /> tmname=Fushigidane |<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> the &quot;pron=&quot; parameter is not coded into the infobox, so it does appear. But it's there on every Pokemon's page. [[User:Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD733;&quot;&gt;'''たか'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520;&quot;&gt;'''はり'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B69E00;&quot;&gt;'''い'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Yes, it's coded in but because of the disagreements on pronunciation and no clear official source for many of them, it was decided to hide them all. If Nintendo or anyone ever releases an official pronunciation guide then we'll be able to put them back up. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 07:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::Is whatever the pronunciation is in the English dub of the anime (and similarly the pronunciation in the Japanese dub for those not yet released over here) not enough to justify it? With the exception of the odd time where they've actually changed the pronunciation during it e.g. Regice... '''[[User:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot; face=&quot;Verdana&quot;&gt;TheChrisD&lt;/font&gt;]]''' &lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Rants&lt;/font&gt;]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|&lt;font color=&quot;lime&quot;&gt;Edits&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 13:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Artwork?! ==<br /> <br /> I hate to be the silly one who starts the &quot;What's going on?!!&quot; discussion, but seriously, why have all the pictures of the Generation I Pokémon been changed to the old Red and Green artwork? Is it for an aniversary or something? [[User:Taromon777|&lt;span style=&quot;color:turquoise; font-family:Arial&quot;&gt;'''T a r o m o n'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 10:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Yes. Anniversary of RB was yesterday, so Gen I Pokémon got Gen I art. But due to the server cache it took some a while to switch over, and I believe they should all be starting to switch back now, but again, that'll be whenever the server cache gets updated. &lt;sc&gt;[[User:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2D4B98;&quot;&gt;Werdnae&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sc&gt; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009000;&quot;&gt;(talk)&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 11:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Actually, maybe it could be put on a switch, like with Gastrodon's forms, so it could switch between old and new artwork periodically. How's that sound? &lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' &lt;/small&gt; 13:49, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::That's exactly what it did. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 22:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Oh, so it's still in effect? As in, like, permanently? Because that was what I was suggesting. &lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' &lt;/small&gt; 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::Yes, next year and on certain other days the site will have easter egg effects. Yaaaay for surprises. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 20:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I won't panic when the Gym Leader pictures are replaced by fan art then... [[User:Taromon777|&lt;span style=&quot;color:turquoise; font-family:Arial&quot;&gt;'''T a r o m o n'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == just a though... ==<br /> <br /> i realise this is probably in the wrong place, but, as unlocking the generation IV nationaldex and requesting a trade on the GTS require only seeing a particular species of pokémon, would it make sense to include a section explaining where to see them. (and i am aware that the GTS has only around a week left). I know that people (granted they are few) have had problems viewing unown and riolu in DP for example.--[[User:Mr-connor|Mr-connor]] 13:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :There is a section explaining where to see, and catch, Pokémon. It's right below the Pokédex Entries section.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 13:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> '''TYPHLOSION LV:50<br /> KINDRA LV:50<br /> ALAKAZAM LV:50<br /> LUGIA LV:45<br /> TYRANITAR LV:55<br /> DRAGONITE LV:57'''<br /> <br /> this is my current team for pokemon soulsilver...i think it has room for improvement.<br /> [[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)brandon strayhorn[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :This isn't the place to put this. Post it on the forums.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] &lt;small&gt;([[User talk:Cold|talk]])&lt;/small&gt; 21:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Bulbagarden Archives ==<br /> <br /> I have a problem that I keep sending the confirmation e-mail like every week but it doesn't show up. I'm saying it here because I haven't confirmed my e-mail on Archives. Someone please help me!!!!!!--&lt;small&gt;[[User:lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;KayKay&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;|&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:purple&quot;&gt;Chat to me!&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 10:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Have you checked it isn't getting caught by the spam filter on your email? Maybe check that the email address is right too? &lt;sc&gt;[[User:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2D4B98;&quot;&gt;Werdnae&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sc&gt; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009000;&quot;&gt;(talk)&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 10:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Thanks Wardnae, I accidentally wrote the wrong email.--&lt;small&gt;[[User:lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;KayKay&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;|&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:purple&quot;&gt;Chat to me!&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 23:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> == Sizes on Pokémon pages.. ==<br /> <br /> Something that's been bugging me for a while. I've been manually going around and resizing the main art boxes at the top of each Pokémon page so they all match each other and look uniform. However, many times box sizes will still be off by a few pixels. Would there be anyway to code something that keeps them all the same size? [http://i54.tinypic.com/28rcc53.png] is an example of what Ii'm talking about. Basically, the box that surrounds the art.&lt;span style=&quot;color:#90EE90&quot;&gt;~★&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;'''[[User:Cubic Question|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#40E0D0&quot;&gt;''cubic''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;[[User talk:Cubic Question|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00FFFF&quot;&gt;''QUESTION''&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 13:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Even if you make the width a certain size, the length will be different according to the size of the art. To get it uniform, you would have to make every file have some whitespace so it would be the same size. That won't happen though. The boxes don't really need to be uniform in size. &lt;sub style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''[[User:Blake|Blake]]'''&lt;/sub&gt; &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]]&lt;/sup&gt; 20:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Litsen... ==<br /> <br /> First of all, I have a idea of a section in the pokemon's main page. Footprint. It'll be good. also, the Pronunciation topic above^^. We can take Right pronunciation from [http://pokemon.wikia.com/ Pokemon Wiki]. I know its cheating, but, Ill help us. --[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :The footprint is already in each Pokémon's infobox. And, we already discussed that the pronunciation caused conflict, and the Pokémon Wiki is far from a reliable source. So we probably won't be adding the pronunciation to each's Pokémon's page. [[User:Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD733;&quot;&gt;'''たか'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520;&quot;&gt;'''はり'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#B69E00;&quot;&gt;'''い'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::By the way I think you were trying to say Listen not Litsen?--&lt;small&gt;[[User:lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;KayKay&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt;|&lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|&lt;span style=&quot;color:purple&quot;&gt;Chat to me!&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 11:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::Well, Pronunciation is what admins can do when the wiki lets locked. also, wouldn't they need help adding 150 and more pokemon?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Pronunciation is conflicting. It isn't just hard work. For example, Bonsly was pronounced with an ē once, then with an ī in another time. One was in the movie, the other in the anime, I've just forgotten which. [[User:Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#CD7F32&quot;&gt;Turtwig's&lt;/font&gt;]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|&lt;font color=&quot;#FF7F00&quot;&gt;A-B-Cs&lt;/font&gt;]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#green&quot;&gt;talk&lt;/font&gt;]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|&lt;font color=&quot;#yellow&quot;&gt;contribs&lt;/font&gt;]]) 11:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::Oh Really? We All Know That Charmander is pronounced ''Chaar-man-der''. Easy Enough?? Just search on google for pokemon pronunciation.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Yeah, no Google searching, thanks. The official sources (Official Handbooks, Anime, and Video Games) don't always agree on pronunciations of Pokémon names. Now, if the official sources all agree at one point, then we will add them. But until then, they're not going on the species pages. - [[User:Kogoro|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DA70D6;&quot;&gt;'''&lt;sc&gt;Kogoro&lt;/sc&gt;'''&lt;/span&gt;]] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFB6C1;&quot;&gt;'''&lt;sc&gt;Talk to me&lt;/sc&gt;'''&lt;/span&gt;]] - 12:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> Okay Then. Moving to the next topic. What About Something at the Top of The Pokemon pics To Change the Picture into other generation art or to a Different form?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Most form changing Pokémon have their forms rotated based on the current time (see {{p|Arceus}}, then refresh the page). As for different generations, the infoboxes are set to display it on certain days—for example, on the anniversary of Red and Blue the Pokémon pages displayed their Red and Blue artwork (for those that have it). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 12:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Doesn't look like the servers are being nice ==<br /> <br /> No, I'm not geting 504s (or, if I am, FireFox is hiding them); I'm getting something even worse: pages not loading at all. A couple of days ago, I was going to come here to get a small amount of information, and it took ages to do so (so long in fact that I just got it O_O). I think the servers are being overstressed - despite the fact that I was getting good ping times off of 10 pings to the site's router (if there is one), I couldn't load any pages - not even robots.txt! That is just a simple text document, and it wouldn't even load! I would start the lockdown soon, as the closer to release we get, the more activity we are likely to get.<br /> <br /> I consider myself lucky I could even get on right now. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 06:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The fifth generation Pokemon are invading Bulbapedia and interfering with the system! I haven't actually noticed any problems yet though, which is strange. [[User:Taromon777|&lt;span style=&quot;color:turquoise; font-family:Arial&quot;&gt;'''T a r o m o n'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:38, 16 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Finally! ==<br /> <br /> as i mentioned Form changing above, We can use A method for pokemon with 2 different forms like giratina and shellos<br /> <br /> Method: All you guys saw Avatar, Everyone Saw. Now See The [http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com Avatar Wiki]'s Jake Sully Article. There is a button below the pic to change the Picture into Human/Avatar. We can use that Method.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 16:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :That's a really good idea actually, I think it would be better than the Pokemon's form just changing periodically. Perhaps now Bulbapedia is being upgraded for the fifth generation, it would be a convenient time for recoding the articles. [[User:Taromon777|&lt;span style=&quot;color:turquoise; font-family:Arial&quot;&gt;'''T a r o m o n'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::I dunno. Shaymin is also two formes, and changes with time. Shellos and Giratina, by the way, are not random. It's based on the hours. And unfortunately, that just changes the infobox picture; there are '''''several''''' things that change for forme changers. Unless your Ground-type moves miss against Altered Forme Giratina. What's that? They don't? But you can only use Earthquake five times? '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::Wikimon has a more extensive one that allows you to toggle the whole box, for example in the [http://wikimon.net/Agumon Agumon article], click the tabs. It even integrates the table of contents into it. Pretty clever. - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] (&lt;sup&gt;[[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]&lt;/sup&gt;/&lt;sub&gt;[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]&lt;/sub&gt;) 04:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::see, only arceus has several things that needed to be changed. what about others?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::What about Mebukijika and Genesect (yes, Genesect has other formes (I think five or six?)) [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I also support the toggle idea. By the way, it has been mentioned in Arbok's Pokédex entries that it has at least six different patterns, of which two have appeared in official game art. Maybe it would be worthwhile to also toggle these two the same way? --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::I say we just stick with actual forme changes, and not include design differences between canons. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 14:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Metric tags in Pokédex entries ==<br /> All pokedex entries use the imperial units of measurement from the US translation. I suggest adding tags with the metric counterparts for two reasons:<br /> <br /> 1 - the original Japanese entries use metric units, so it could be seen as &quot;more canon&quot;.<br /> <br /> 2 - there are international users of Bulbapedia (me included) that are not used to imperial units.<br /> <br /> For example, the final sentence in Magneton's entry in Yellow could be: ''It raises the temperature by {{tt|3.6F degrees|2°C}} within {{tt|3,300 feet|1 km}}.''<br /> <br /> If the staff agrees, I'm willing to go through all Pokedex entries and add the metric values. I know enough Japanese to easily get the official values from the pokedex entries listed on the Japanese wiki, assuming those are correct.<br /> <br /> --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Metric system seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to include, it's merely a big job to go through ''everything'' and add the metric equivalent. Perhaps starting small, with say the Pokémon infobox only for now, and work our way up (every infobox should list the Pokémon's height and weight, so it's the most prominent use of the imperial system). Pokédex entries are also pretty simple, but I'd also say they're the less important area to work on (no complaints if you want to fix them all yourself, however). --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt; '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;''.cнаt'''''^'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 11:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Each Pokemon already have both their imperial and metric height and weight listed in their infobox, except for Generation 5, because their imperial values are not yet officially known. So pokedex entries are the most important area left to work on, as far as I can see. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 13:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Unless someone else has a big complaint about it, I don't see why you can't go ahead and update those, in that case. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt; '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''&gt;'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;small&gt;[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|&lt;font color=&quot;#237d00&quot;&gt;''.cнаt'''''^'''&lt;/font&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 14:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::I have done 101 out of 493 for now. I may have missed a few in scanning all those entries. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 23:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Question? ==<br /> <br /> The option to write in the discussion for the Pokemon Black and White Versions isn't there. Are we not aloud to write there? --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 21:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah, but only if you're autoconfirmed, meaning you've been registered for a certain amount of time and have made a certain number of edits.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] &lt;small&gt;([[User talk:Cold|talk]])&lt;/small&gt; 21:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::OK thanks --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 22:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::What is the amount of time and important edits? [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 3D Artwork ==<br /> <br /> This is something that's been on my mind for a while now, but I couldn't bring it up due to the lockdown. Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to possibly include 3D images of Pokémon and Pokémon moves, like what's done for anime? It could be done in a seperate section or sub-section of the articles. Oh, and I don't mean updating every time a new 3D game comes out; I mean adding images for each time a move or Pokémon has appeared in a 3D game, like images of Pidgeot from its appearances in Pokémon Stadium through Pokémon Battle Revolution. I don't know if this has been brought up before, but is this notion a good idea?--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 00:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Although i don't know much, but taking 3D Pics will be hard and i don't think its a very good idea.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Well, I don't quite know how it's done, but you don't take 3D pics by using a camera or something. The quality of the 3D images here prove that.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 15:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Lylat Wiki ==<br /> <br /> [http://starfoxwiki.org/Lylat_Wiki Lylat Wiki] is now a part of NIWA, Oct 8th and 15th two others will be added, so might wanna add that to your NIWA bar ;] [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 17:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Main page design ==<br /> <br /> Does no one else think Tsutarja is missing?<br /> We have Bulbasaur, Treecko, Chikorita and Turtwig pics on the main page, but no Tsutarja (or victini if you want the first pokémon in the dex) I can feel it's absence when I look at the page. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 19:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :main page uses animated minisprites. we dont have Gen V animated minisprites. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;MAG&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#696969;&quot;&gt;NE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000033;&quot;&gt;DETH&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 19:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Yet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::I can ''Make'' Them Animate. but it wont we official, and Archives are currently blocked.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:gold&quot;&gt;Ash's&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|&lt;span style=&quot;color:silver&quot;&gt;Infernape&lt;/span&gt;]] 20:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::I see. That's a little worrying because they're not animated on my screen. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 17:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::What browser are you running? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#444444&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C3C3C3&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::on chrome and IE they don't work, only firefox. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 12:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::I've heard that they also work on Opera. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#444444&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C3C3C3&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 06:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Actually,there is a Tsutarja animated sprite Bulbagarden Archives, but there's no space for it. However, a Victini sprite has also been uploaded. [[User:Jlin8002|Jlin8002]] 00:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Jlin8002<br /> <br /> == Shiny Gen V Sprites ==<br /> <br /> I would like to know where we are going to put the shiny sprites for the fifth generation Pokémon. I have the sprites (official). [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :We have them, however we have yet to upload them. I guess I could do them today. --[[User:PsychicRider|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#78C850;&quot;&gt;'''Psy'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:PsychicRider|&lt;sub style=&quot;color:#F85888;&quot;&gt;'''ライダー'''&lt;/sub&gt;]]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C4E673;&quot;&gt;'''☮'''&lt;/span&gt;]]'' 11:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Translations ==<br /> <br /> This is a big job, and would probably be a bad idea, but could we translate Bulbapedia into other languages? I know that we already have basic translations of Pokémon and Moves, but what about the rest of it?----[[User:Chalkwriter|&lt;span style=&quot;color:green&quot;&gt;Chalk&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Chalkwriter|&lt;span style=&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;writer&lt;/span&gt;]] 18:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :May I direct your attention [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis|here]] ''[[User:Maverick Nate|&lt;sup style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''Maverick'''&lt;/sup&gt;]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|&lt;sub style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''Nate'''&lt;/sub&gt;]]'' 18:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Clearer distinction between &quot;natural&quot; and Dream World abilities. ==<br /> <br /> I think the distinction between pokémon that only have certain abilities through the Pokémon Dream World and those that don't can be made clearer. For example, on pages of separate abilities there is just one table with normal and PDW pokémon all mixed up, while it would be easier to make separate tables for both. I think this would help both users that own Pokémon Black or White and those that don't. Besides that we could also make a category for &quot;Abilities exclusive to Pokémon Dream World&quot;, like {{a|Harvest}}. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 00:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :On the separate pages, they are specfically listed in a separate column that says &quot;Dream World ability&quot;. That seems separate enough. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|&lt;sup style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''Maverick'''&lt;/sup&gt;]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|&lt;sub style=&quot;color:#00008B;&quot;&gt;'''Nate'''&lt;/sub&gt;]]'' 00:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Yes, but I think it would be easier if for example you are looking for a pokémon that has a certain ability, that you don't have to go through a list of which half of the pokémon are Dream World pokémon. Even for Dream World users like me pokémon in wild and in Dream World are two completely separate things. But yeah, it's not that necessary. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Grammar error ==<br /> <br /> Being the Grammar Nazi I am, I have spotted an error I can't fix. I accidentally got logged out while editing a userpage, and I noticed there is a lack of space between sentences on the message that explains that new users cannot edit userpages. This is really bothering me, so could anyone with the power to edit the MediaWiki namespace fix it? [[User:CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Red&quot;&gt;Cu&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Tan&quot;&gt;bo&lt;/font&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|&lt;font color=&quot;Green color light&quot;&gt;ne&lt;/font&gt;]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|&lt;font color=&quot;Black&quot;&gt;King&lt;/font&gt;]] 02:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Done, I think. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 02:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Update on Message to the Editor ==<br /> <br /> [[Template:Main Page/Message from the Editor|'''This''']] should be updated, no? I think people would like to know it's been unlocked [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 02:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> : Very true, its more that a month old [[User:Ruberduck0123|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520 ;&quot;&gt;'''Ruber'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Ruberduck0123|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#999999 ;&quot;&gt;'''duck'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Ruberduck0123|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#4FD9FF ;&quot;&gt;'''0123'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 07:00, 23 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::It doesn't matter if it's five months old, he edits it when they have an announcement to make, he doesn't have to update it once a month people!! --[[User:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma;background:black&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;red&quot;&gt;'''Land'''&lt;/font&gt;]][[User talk:Landfish7|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma;background:black&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;yellow&quot;&gt;'''fish7'''&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 13:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Bulbanews ==<br /> <br /> I have a question : Can only staff members report news to bulbanews or can normal users also report --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 15:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Bulbanews is a different wiki altogether. Though they're both part of Bulbagarden, both Bulbapedia and Bulbanews have their own front pages. The information you're looking for is on Bulbanews's front page and if you have any other questions about it, it'd make sense to ask on that talk page rather than this one. [[n:Front page|here's a link, for convenience]] [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 20:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :What Kanjo said is correct, but to answer your question, anyone is allowed to report news to Bulbanews. After submission, an admin or columnist needs to move it out of the draft namespace and into the mainspace. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#444444&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C3C3C3&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 00:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Zoroark's Name ==<br /> <br /> I think the Ark in its name could be cause it can transform into lots of pokemon like an ark of pokemon and the reason i posted it here cause i cant post it on Zoroark's article . --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 16:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :First of all, if you can't post in an article, inquire in the article's talk page (i.e. [[Talk:Zoroark (Pokémon)]]), not Talk: Main Page. Secondly, that's a real stretch: that's not an actual definition of the word ark, it's just a vague metaphor. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy&lt;sup&gt;P&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;K&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;M&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;N&lt;/sub&gt;]] 21:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Before you ask ==<br /> <br /> Read the news. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Is it for the Japanese anime writer? If so, I suppose Chimecho is more appropriate than Lugia, considering how the little windchime links to places like Mt. Pyre and Sendoff Spring. It can be in greyscale if desired. Besides, what is more favourable aesthetically is that one may include Chingling too, instead of Lugia all over the place. [[User:Rxhar|Rxhar]] 09:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::It's Lugia because the man is credited with helping to create it. It was on the news post. [[User:Tamah|Tamah]] 23:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Well, it was more than a week by now, someone could remember me who edits the main page? --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 16:14, 5 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == What'd I do wrong here? ==<br /> <br /> [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Starck]]<br /> <br /> ... What happened? [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Just create a page with &lt;nowiki&gt;{{subst:welcome}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#BF0B17&quot;&gt;ＤＥＮＮＯＵ&lt;/font&gt;]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|&lt;font color=&quot;#1250A6&quot;&gt;ＺＥＮＳＨＩ&lt;/font&gt;]] 13:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_availability&diff=1244989 2010-11-05T00:14:51Z

<p>EzekielMaple: </p> <hr /> <div>== Hi there! ==<br /> If you know a fix that needs to be made, go right ahead and fix it: this page isn't (or oughtn't be) protected. But if you can't fix it, for example because a protected template is broken, please still report it here! --[[User:Eskay|Eskay]] 09:41, 9 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Radar ==<br /> Ought we made those available by Radar alone be &quot;Ra&quot;? It'd be easy enough to add... '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:40, 19 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Glow ahead. '''[[User:Optimatum|&lt;span class=&quot;explain&quot; title=&quot;Optimus35&quot;&gt;&lt;sc&gt;Θρtιmαtum♏&lt;/sc&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]&lt;/sub&gt; 00:48, 19 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I think the templates need to be changed before we can add stuff like &quot;Ra&quot; for Radar, and we probably need a &quot;W&quot; for Walker. Also, what about swarms in HGSS? They're currently listed as &quot;C&quot; but shouldn't they be &quot;S&quot;? [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 08:09, 6 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::The swarms have now been marked, thanks. What's a good plan for changing the template? --[[User:Eskay|Eskay]] 09:58, 9 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Disponibility for Hoenn and Sinnoh Sound == <br /> Put disponibility for Hoenn and Sinnoh Sound, please!--Ash 22:21, 6 December 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Huh? I don't follow. I'm pretty sure &quot;disponibility&quot; is availability, but what are Hoenn and Sinnoh Sound? (Was under HGSS heading) --[[User:Eskay|Eskay]] 09:41, 9 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pruned ==<br /> I've pruned this talk page of resolved issues, as of this timestamp. With thanks to LaprasBoi, ht14, and JDigital, for adding issues which I claim that I've resolved. --[[User:Eskay|Eskay]] 09:41, 9 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :If we want an archive page or something, it's certainly possible to restore one from the history. --[[User:Eskay|Eskay]] 10:18, 9 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Black and White ==<br /> Looks like it is possible to catch some, but not all, earlier-generation Pokémon again? So we'll need to extend the templates for the earlier sections to allow input of B&amp;W data. Also a potential opportunity to extend the template functionality as discussed above under Radar. --[[User:Eskay|Eskay]]<br /> :We may want a third column for Dream World availability, if that's stable, per discussion at [[Template_talk:Availability]]. --[[User:Eskay|Eskay]] 20:01, 9 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Also remember that there's something new besides the Dream World: the [[PokéShifter]] .</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pewter_Gym&diff=1244949 2010-11-04T23:29:32Z

<p>EzekielMaple: why nobody noticed this?</p> <hr /> <div>{{GymInfobox<br /> |name=Pewter<br /> |characters=ニビ<br /> |japanese=Nibi<br /> |image=Pewter Gym.png<br /> |location=Pewter City<br /> |leader=[[Brock]]&lt;br&gt;{{ka|Flint}} ({{pkmn|anime}} only)&lt;br&gt;[[Lola]] ({{pkmn|anime}} only)&lt;br&gt;[[Forrest]] ({{pkmn|anime}} only)<br /> |badge=Boulder Badge<br /> |type=Rock<br /> |region=Kanto<br /> |battlefield=Pewter Gym Battlefield.png<br /> |colordark=909497<br /> |colorlight=C7C9CA<br /> }}<br /> The '''Pewter Gym''' (Japanese: '''ニビジム''' ''Nibi Gym'') is the official [[gym]] of [[Pewter City]]. It is based on {{type2|Rock}} [[Pokémon]]. The [[Gym Leader]] is [[Brock]]. {{pkmn|Trainer}}s that defeat him receive the {{badge|Boulder}}.<br /> <br /> Other known members include [[Camper]] Jerry, Camper Liam, Brock's father, {{ka|Flint}}, and Brock's mother, [[Lola]]. <br /> <br /> ==In the games==<br /> {{sign|FRLG|header|road}}<br /> {{sign|FRLG|title|Pewter City Pokémon Gym}}<br /> {{sign|FRLG|title|Leader: Brock}}<br /> {{sign|FRLG|&quot;The Rock-Solid Pokémon Trainer&quot;}}<br /> {{sign|FRLG|footer|road}}<br /> Pewter Gym appears in all {{pkmn|games}} set in the [[Kanto]] [[region]], appearing much the same in each: a small building with a {{wp|Japanese rock garden}} inside, one trainer, and the Gym Leader Brock waiting on a large stone pedestal. In the [[Generation I]] games and their [[Generation III]] remakes, whenever the [[player character|player]] tries to leave Pewter City, a boy will lead him or her to the front of the gym if the player has not earned their Boulder Badge yet.<br /> <br /> A field based on the gym also appears in [[Pokémon Stadium (English)|Pokémon Stadium]]'s [[Gym Leader Castle]].<br /> <br /> ===Appearance===<br /> {{Mapgen<br /> |hv=v<br /> |colordark={{rock color}}<br /> |colorlight={{rock color light}}<br /> |genI=Pewter Gym RB.png<br /> |sizeI=150px<br /> |genII=Pewter Gym GS.png<br /> |sizeII=150px<br /> |genIII=Pewter Gym FRLG.png<br /> |sizeIII=170px<br /> |genIV=Pewter Gym HGSS.png<br /> |sizeIV=250px}}<br /> <br /> ===Trainers===<br /> ===={{game|Red and Blue|s}}====<br /> {{Trainerheader|Rock}}<br /> {{Trainerentry|GenIJrTrainerMale.png|Camper{{!}}Jr. Trainer||220|2|050|Diglett|♂|11|None|027|Sandshrew|♂|11|None}}<br /> {{Trainerfooter|Rock||Inside}}<br /> &lt;br&gt;<br /> {{Party|<br /> color={{rock color}}|<br /> bordercolor={{rock color dark}}|<br /> headcolor={{rock color light}}|<br /> sprite=Brockblue.png|<br /> prize={{pdollar}}1386|<br /> &lt;!--GEN I HAD NO CLASSES--&gt;<br /> name={{color2|000000|Brock}}|<br /> game=RGB|<br /> location=Pewter Gym|<br /> pokemon=2|<br /> pokemon1={{Pokémon/1|<br /> ndex=074|<br /> game=Red|<br /> pokemon=Geodude|<br /> level=12|<br /> type1=Rock|<br /> type2=Ground|<br /> move1=Tackle|<br /> move1type=Normal|<br /> move2=Defense Curl|<br /> move2type=Normal}}|<br /> pokemon2={{Pokémon/1|<br /> ndex=095|<br /> pokemon=Onix|<br /> game=Red|<br /> level=14|<br /> type1=Rock|<br /> type2=Ground|<br /> move1=Tackle|<br /> move1type=Normal|<br /> move2=Screech|<br /> move2type=Normal|<br /> move3=Bide|<br /> move3type=Normal|<br /> move4=Bind|<br /> move4type=Normal}}}}<br /> <br /> ===={{game|Yellow}}====<br /> {{Trainerheader|Rock}}<br /> {{Trainerentry|GenIJrTrainerMale.png|Camper{{!}}Jr. Trainer||180|2|050|Diglett||9|None|027|Sandshrew||9|None}}<br /> {{Trainerfooter|Rock||Inside}}<br /> &lt;br&gt;<br /> {{Party|<br /> color={{rock color}}|<br /> bordercolor={{rock color dark}}|<br /> headcolor={{rock color light}}|<br /> sprite=Y Brock.png|<br /> prize={{pdollar}}1188|<br /> class=Leader|<br /> name={{color2|000000|Brock}}|<br /> game=Y|<br /> location=Pewter Gym|<br /> pokemon=2|<br /> pokemon1={{Pokémon/1|<br /> ndex=074|<br /> pokemon=Geodude|<br /> game=Yellow|<br /> level=10|<br /> type1=Rock|<br /> type2=Ground|<br /> move1=Tackle|<br /> move1type=Normal}}|<br /> pokemon2={{Pokémon/1|<br /> ndex=095|<br /> pokemon=Onix|<br /> game=Yellow|<br /> level=12|<br /> type1=Rock|<br /> type2=Ground|<br /> move1=Tackle|<br /> move1type=Normal|<br /> move2=Screech|<br /> move2type=Normal|<br /> move3=Bide|<br /> move3type=Normal|<br /> move4=Bind|<br /> move4type=Normal}}}}<br /> <br /> ===={{game|Gold and Silver|s}}====<br /> {{Trainerheader|Rock}}<br /> {{Trainerentry|GSC_Camper.png|Camper|Jerry|740|1|028|Sandslash|♂|37|None|36=キヨシ|37=Kiyoshi}}<br /> {{Trainerfooter|Rock|2|Inside}}<br /> &lt;br&gt;<br /> {{Party|<br /> color={{rock color}}|<br /> bordercolor={{rock color dark}}|<br /> headcolor={{rock color light}}|<br /> sprite=Brock 02.png|<br /> prize={{pdollar}}4200|<br /> class=Leader|<br /> name={{color2|000000|Brock}}|<br /> game=GSC|<br /> location=Pewter Gym|<br /> pokemon=5|<br /> pokemon1={{Pokémon/2|<br /> ndex=075|<br /> pokemon=Graveler|<br /> game=Crystal|<br /> gender=male|<br /> level=41|<br /> type1=Rock|<br /> type2=Ground|<br /> move1=Defense Curl|<br /> move1type=Normal|<br /> move2=Rock Slide|<br /> move2type=Rock|<br /> move3=Rollout|<br /> move3type=Rock|<br /> move4=Earthquake|<br /> move4type=Ground}}|<br /> pokemon2={{Pokémon/2|<br /> ndex=111|<br /> pokemon=Rhyhorn|<br /> game=Crystal|<br /> gender=male|<br /> level=41|<br /> type1=Ground|<br /> type2=Rock|<br /> move1=Fury Attack|<br /> move1type=Normal|<br /> move2=Scary Face|<br /> move2type=Normal|<br /> move3=Earthquake|<br /> move3type=Ground|<br /> move4=Horn Drill|<br /> move4type=Normal}}|<br /> pokemon3={{Pokémon/2|<br /> ndex=139|<br /> pokemon=Omastar|<br /> game=Crystal|<br /> gender=male|<br /> level=42|<br /> type1=Rock|<br /> type2=Water|<br /> move1=Bite|<br /> move1type=Dark|<br /> move2=Surf|<br /> move2type=Water|<br /> move3=Protect|<br /> move3type=Normal|<br /> move4=Spike Cannon|<br /> move4type=Normal}}|<br /> pokemon4={{Pokémon/2|<br /> ndex=141|<br /> pokemon=Kabutops|<br /> game=Crystal|<br /> gender=male|<br /> level=42|<br /> type1=Rock|<br /> type2=Water|<br /> move1=Slash|<br /> move1type=Normal|<br /> move2=Surf|<br /> move2type=Water|<br /> move3=Endure|<br /> move3type=Normal|<br /> move4=Giga Drain|<br /> move4type=Grass}}|<br /> pokemon5={{Pokémon/2|<br /> ndex=095|<br /> pokemon=Onix|<br /> game=Crystal|<br /> gender=male|<br /> level=44|<br /> type1=Rock|<br /> type2=Ground|<br /> move1=Bind|<br /> move1type=Normal|<br /> move2=Rock Slide|<br /> move2type=Rock|<br /> move3=Bide|<br /> move3type=Normal|<br /> move4=Sandstorm|<br /> move4type=Rock}}}}<br /> <br /> ===={{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}====<br /> {{Trainerheader|Rock}}<br /> {{Trainerentry|FL Camper.png|Camper|Liam|220|2|074|Geodude|♂|10|None|027|Sandshrew|♂|11|None|36=トシカズ|37=Toshikazu}}<br /> {{Trainerfooter|Rock|1}}<br /> &lt;br&gt;<br /> {{Party|<br /> color={{rock color}}|<br /> bordercolor={{rock color dark}}|<br /> headcolor={{rock color light}}|<br /> sprite=SpriteBrock.png|<br /> prize={{pdollar}}1400|<br /> class=Leader|<br /> name={{color2|000000|Brock}}|<br /> game=FRLG|<br /> location=Pewter Gym|<br /> pokemon=2|<br /> pokemon1={{Pokémon/3|<br /> ndex=074|<br /> game=FireRed|<br /> pokemon=Geodude|<br /> level=12|<br /> type1=Rock|<br /> type2=Ground|<br /> gender=male|<br /> ability=Rock Head|<br /> move1=Tackle|<br /> move1type=Normal|<br /> move2=Defense Curl|<br /> move2type=Normal}}|<br /> pokemon2={{Pokémon/3|<br /> ndex=095|<br /> pokemon=Onix|<br /> game=FireRed|<br /> level=14|<br /> type1=Rock|<br /> type2=Ground|<br /> gender=male|<br /> ability=Rock Head|<br /> move1=Tackle|<br /> move1type=Normal|<br /> move2=Bind|<br /> move2type=Normal|<br /> move3=Rock Tomb|<br /> move3type=Rock}}}}<br /> <br /> ===={{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}====<br /> {{Trainerheader|Rock}}<br /> {{Trainerentry|DP_Camper.png|Camper|Jerry|800|1|112|Rhydon|♂|50|None|36=キヨシ|37=Kiyoshi}}<br /> {{Trainerdiv|Rock}}<br /> {{Trainerentry|DP_Hiker.png|Hiker|Edwin|1600|1|076|Golem|♂|50|None|36=ミキオ|37=Mikio}}<br /> {{Trainerfooter|Rock|2|Inside}}<br /> &lt;br&gt;<br /> {{Party<br /> |color={{rock color}}<br /> |bordercolor={{rock color dark}}<br /> |headcolor={{rock color light}}<br /> |sprite=BrockHGSS.gif<br /> |prize={{pdollar}}6240<br /> |class=Leader<br /> |name={{color2|000000|Brock}}<br /> |game=HGSS<br /> |location=Pewter Gym<br /> |pokemon=5<br /> <br /> |pokemon1={{Pokémon/4<br /> |ndex=075<br /> |pokemon=Graveler<br /> |game=HeartGold<br /> |type1=Rock<br /> |type2=Ground<br /> |ability=Sturdy<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=51<br /> |move1=Earthquake<br /> |move1type=Ground<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Defense Curl<br /> |move2type=Normal<br /> |move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Rock Slide<br /> |move3type=Rock<br /> |move3cat=Physical<br /> |move4=Rollout<br /> |move4type=Rock<br /> |move4cat=Physical<br /> }}<br /> <br /> |pokemon2={{Pokémon/4<br /> |ndex=111<br /> |pokemon=Rhyhorn<br /> |game=HeartGold<br /> |gender=male<br /> |spritegender=male<br /> |type1=Ground<br /> |type2=Rock<br /> |ability=Sturdy<br /> |level=51<br /> |move1=Earthquake<br /> |move1type=Ground<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Scary Face<br /> |move2type=Normal<br /> |move2cat=Status<br /> |move3=Sandstorm<br /> |move3type=Rock<br /> |move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Horn Drill<br /> |move4type=Normal<br /> |move4cat=Physical<br /> }}<br /> <br /> |pokemon3={{Pokémon/4<br /> |ndex=139<br /> |pokemon=Omastar<br /> |game=HeartGold<br /> |type1=Rock<br /> |type2=Water<br /> |ability=Swift Swim<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=53<br /> |move1=Spike Cannon<br /> |move1type=Normal<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=AncientPower<br /> |move2type=Rock<br /> |move2cat=Special<br /> |move3=Brine<br /> |move3type=Water<br /> |move3cat=Special<br /> |move4=Protect<br /> |move4type=Normal<br /> |move4cat=Status<br /> }}<br /> <br /> |pokemon4={{Pokémon/4<br /> |ndex=095<br /> |pokemon=Onix<br /> |game=HeartGold<br /> |type1=Rock<br /> |type2=Ground<br /> |ability=Sturdy<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=54<br /> |held=Sitrus Berry<br /> |move1=Rock Slide<br /> |move1type=Rock<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Iron Tail<br /> |move2type=Steel<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Sandstorm<br /> |move3type=Rock<br /> |move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Screech<br /> |move4type=Normal<br /> |move4cat=Status<br /> }}<br /> <br /> |pokemon5={{Pokémon/4<br /> |ndex=141<br /> |pokemon=Kabutops<br /> |game=HeartGold<br /> |type1=Rock<br /> |type2=Water<br /> |ability=Swift Swim<br /> |gender=male<br /> |level=52<br /> |move1=Rock Slide<br /> |move1type=Rock<br /> |move1cat=Physical<br /> |move2=Aqua Jet<br /> |move2type=Water<br /> |move2cat=Physical<br /> |move3=Endure<br /> |move3type=Normal<br /> |move3cat=Status<br /> |move4=Giga Drain<br /> |move4type=Grass<br /> |move4cat=Special<br /> }}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==In the anime==<br /> The Pewter Gym was first seen in ''[[EP005|Showdown in Pewter City]]'' in the {{pkmn|anime}}. It is a stone building apparently set apart from the rest of the city. {{an|Brock}} waits inside in the dark for challengers, sitting on a stone pedestal as he does in the games; however, unlike in the games, no other trainers have been seen as part of the gym besides Brock's family. The battlefield is littered with jagged rocks and boulders, and a balcony along the edge above provides spectators a spot to watch gym battles. Despite being a Rock-type gym, the building has sprinklers for fire safety, which {{Ash}} uses to gain an advantage against {{TP|Brock|Onix|Steelix}}.<br /> <br /> The gym is an important part of Brock's family, and Brock, his [[Brock's siblings|brothers and sisters]], and his parents live in a large house nearby. Brock's father, {{ka|Flint}}, was the Gym Leader before Brock, and when his parents left Brock inherited the gym as part of his family responsibilities. While Brock was a strong, respected Gym Leader, he did not like being a Gym Leader, and only did such for family obligation. When Flint returned, Brock returned the title of Gym Leader to him, and left to travel with Ash and pursue his own dream of becoming a [[Pokémon Breeder]].<br /> <br /> When Brock's mother [[Lola]] returned, the gym was turned into a combination {{type2|Water}} and Rock-type gym, and the battlefield was redecorated, including the addition of a pool in the middle. However, Brock returned in ''[[SS001|A Family That Battles Together Stays Together!]]'' and was shocked to see how his mother has changed. Both he and his younger brother [[Forrest]] take pride in the gym's strong reputation as a Rock-type gym. He battled his mother to restore the gym to a Rock-type gym.<br /> <br /> It fell victim to a second remodeling attempt in ''[[AG177|Grating Spaces]]''. At that time, a storage room was seen where the gym keeps many [[Poké Ball]]s, presumably containing different Rock-type Pokémon.<br /> <br /> While traveling with Ash, Brock keeps Pokémon he owns but does not currently have on his [[party]] at the gym. Currently, he has his {{TP|Brock|Steelix}}, {{TP|Brock|Geodude}}, {{TP|Brock|Crobat}}, {{TP|Brock|Forretress}}, {{TP|Brock|Ludicolo}} and {{TP|Brock|Marshtomp}} at the gym. Flint's {{p|Golem}} is also kept at the gym, and Lola keeps her many {{type2|Water}} Pokémon there.<br /> <br /> ==In the Pokémon Adventures manga==<br /> [[Image:Pewter Gym Adventures Manga.png|thumb|200px|The main arena.]]<br /> Pewter Gym debuted in ''[[PS005|Onix is On!]]'' of the [[Red, Green &amp; Blue chapter (Adventures)|Red, Green &amp; Blue]] chapter. Here, {{adv|Red}} and {{adv|Green}} win the Boulder Badge after they defeat several rounds of trainers and finally Brock. The outside of the Gym has the default design, but the inside consists of a boxing ring where the trainers battle, a space for the crowd around it and a room with windows where Brock can see the battles.<br /> <br /> ===Pokémon===<br /> These are the Pokémon showed in the Gym, from Brock and the other Gym trainers.<br /> * {{p|Onix}}<br /> * {{p|Graveler}}<br /> * {{p|Geodude}}<br /> * {{p|Cubone}}<br /> * {{p|Sandshrew}}<br /> <br /> ==In the TCG==<br /> The Pewter Gym was featured in the TCG as both a Japan exclusive {{TCG|Nivi City Gym|Theme Deck}} and as a card. The following is a list of cards named '''Pewter City Gym'''.<br /> {| {{bluetable}} <br /> |- style=&quot;background: #{{tcg fighting color}};&quot;<br /> !Name<br /> !Type<br /> !Rarity<br /> !Set<br /> !Set no.<br /> |-<br /> | {{TCG ID|Gym Heroes|Pewter City Gym|115}} || T || {{rar|Uncommon}} || {{TCG|Gym Heroes}} || 115/132 <br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> *The Pewter Gym, at least by anime standards, has tied for the most known Gym Leaders run it with a total of four different Leaders: [[Brock]], {{an|Flint}}, [[Lola]], and [[Forrest]]. Viridian Gym also has had four Leaders in the anime: [[Giovanni]], [[Jessie]], [[James]], and [[Agatha]]; however, Jessie and James were a [[double battle]]. If [[Misty]]'s sisters were counted as one Leader each, Cerulean Gym would tie with them.<br /> *For unexplained reasons, Pewter Gym seemed to have passed the PIA exam despite having a bad paint job and the Rock Pokémon nearly drowning in the pool, whereas in ''[[SS002|Cerulean Blues]]'', it is implied that any gym that fails the cleanliness, safety and coolness factors of the exam is shut down.<br /> *Although the gym is based on rock-type Pokémon, all the Pokémon fought here are {{type2|Ground}}, except for Brock's Omastar and Kabutops in Generations II and IV<br /> <br /> {{Gyms of Kanto|type={{rock color}}}}<br /> [[Category:Gyms]]<br /> <br /> [[de:Marmoria City Pokémon-Arena]]<br /> [[es:Gimnasio Plateada]]<br /> [[fr:Arène d'Argenta]]<br /> [[ja:ニビジム]]</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Big_Pecks_(Ability)&diff=1244945 2010-11-04T23:21:30Z

<p>EzekielMaple: update</p> <hr /> <div>{{AbilityInfobox<br /> |name=Pigeon Breast<br /> |jpname=はとむね<br /> |jptrans=Pigeon Breast<br /> |jptranslit=Hatomune<br /> |colorscheme=defense<br /> |gen=5<br /> |text5={{tt|防御を　さげる 攻撃を　受けない。|The Defense stat cannot be lowered.}}<br /> }}<br /> (Japanese: '''はとむね''' ''Pigeon Breast'') is an [[ability]] introduced in [[Generation V]]. Eleven [[Pokémon]] have this ability, which are all {{type2|Flying}} Pokémon.<br /> <br /> ==Effect==<br /> ===In battle===<br /> Pigeon Breast prevents the Pokémon's [[Stats#Defense|Defense]] stat from being reduced.<br /> <br /> ==Pokémon with Pigeon Breast==<br /> {{Ability/head|Defense}}<br /> {{Ability/entry|016|Pidgey|Normal|Flying|Keen Eye|Tangled Feet|Pigeon Breast}}<br /> {{Ability/entry|017|Pidgeotto|Normal|Flying|Keen Eye|Tangled Feet|Pigeon Breast}}<br /> {{Ability/entry|018|Pidgeot|Normal|Flying|Keen Eye|Tangled Feet|Pigeon Breast}}<br /> {{Ability/entry|441|Chatot|Normal|Flying|Keen Eye|Tangled Feet|Pigeon Breast}}<br /> {{Ability/entry|519|Mamepato|Normal|Flying|Pigeon Breast|Super Luck|Rivalry}}<br /> {{Ability/entry|520|Hatooboo|Normal|Flying|Pigeon Breast|Super Luck|Rivalry}}<br /> {{Ability/entry|521|Kenhorou|Normal|Flying|Pigeon Breast|Super Luck|Rivalry}}<br /> {{Ability/entry|580|Koaruhie|Water|Flying|Keen Eye|Pigeon Breast|Hydration}}<br /> {{Ability/entry|581|Swanna|Water|Flying|Keen Eye|Pigeon Breast|Hydration}}<br /> {{Ability/entry|629|Baruchai|Dark|Flying|Pigeon Breast|Dust Proof|Broken Armor}}<br /> {{Ability/entry|630|Barujiina|Dark|Flying|Pigeon Breast|Dust Proof|Broken Armor}}<br /> {{Ability/foot|Defense}}<br /> <br /> {{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}<br /> <br /> [[de:Hatomune]]</div>

EzekielMaple https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_availability&diff=1244943 2010-11-04T23:17:05Z

<p>EzekielMaple: FIRST!... edit. whoohoo</p> <hr /> <div>{{outdated}}<br /> {| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}} align=&quot;right&quot;<br /> ! Key:<br /> ! &lt;small&gt;B - [[Pokémon breeding|Breed]]&lt;br&gt;C - Catch&lt;br&gt;D - [[Dual-slot mode]]&lt;br&gt;E - [[Evolution|Evolve]]&lt;br&gt;Ev - [[Event Pokémon|Event]]&lt;br&gt;P - [[Pal Park]]&lt;br&gt;R - Receive&lt;br&gt;S - [[Snagging|Snag]]{{tt|*|Colo/XD}}/[[Mass Outbreak|swarms]]{{tt|*|DPPt}}&lt;br&gt;T - [[Trade]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> |}<br /> This is a list of Pokémon by the main series game in which they are obtainable. Depending on their availability, the box indicating the game will be either white with a game-colored abbreviation, for Pokémon not normally available in said game, and game-colored with a black abbreviation, for Pokémon available. A series of abbreviation indicates the level of availability of each Pokémon.<br /> <br /> Note that this only covers main series games (those ending in &quot;[[version]]&quot;), {{g|Colosseum}} and [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|XD]]. Games are ordered {{v2|Red}}, {{v2|Green}} (English Blue), [[Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|Japanese Blue]], {{v2|Yellow}}, {{v2|Gold}}, {{v2|Silver}}, {{v2|Crystal}}, {{v2|Ruby}}, {{v2|Sapphire}}, {{v2|FireRed}}, {{v2|LeafGreen}}, {{v2|Emerald}}, {{pkmn|Colosseum}}, [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|XD]], {{v2|Diamond}}, {{v2|Pearl}}, {{v2|Platinum}}, {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}.<br /> <br /> ==Generation I Pokémon==<br /> {| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #ccf;&quot;<br /> ! rowspan=&quot;2&quot; | #<br /> ! rowspan=&quot;2&quot; | Icon<br /> ! rowspan=&quot;2&quot; | Name<br /> ! colspan=&quot;19&quot; | Game<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #ccf;&quot;<br /> ! colspan=&quot;4&quot; width=&quot;80 px&quot;| &lt;small&gt;Generation I&lt;/small&gt;<br /> ! colspan=&quot;3&quot; width=&quot;60 px&quot;| &lt;small&gt;Generation II&lt;/small&gt;<br /> ! colspan=&quot;5&quot; width=&quot;100 px&quot;| &lt;small&gt;Generation III&lt;/small&gt;<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; width=&quot;40 px&quot;| &lt;small&gt;GCN&lt;/small&gt;<br /> ! colspan=&quot;5&quot; width=&quot;100 px&quot;| &lt;small&gt;Generation IV&lt;/small&gt;<br /> {{Avail-1|001|Bulbasaur|R|R|R|R|T|T|T|T|T|R|R|T|T|T|P|P|P|R|R}}<br /> {{Avail-1|002|Ivysaur|E|E|E|E|T|T|T|T|T|E|E|T|T|T|P|P|P|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-1|003|Venusaur|E|E|E|E|T|T|T|T|T|E|E|T|T|T|P|P|P|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-1|004|Charmander|R|R|R|R|T|T|T|T|T|R|R|T|T|T|P|P|P|R|R}}<br /> {{Avail-1|005|Charmeleon|E|E|E|E|T|T|T|T|T|E|E|T|T|T|P|P|P|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-1|006|Charizard|E|E|E|E|T|T|T|T|T|E|E|T|T|T|P|P|P|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-1|007|Squirtle|R|R|R|R|T|T|T|T|T|R|R|T|T|T|P|P|P|R|R}}<br /> {{Avail-1|008|Wartortle|E|E|E|E|T|T|T|T|T|E|E|T|T|T|P|P|P|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-1|009|Blastoise|E|E|E|E|T|T|T|T|T|E|E|T|T|T|P|P|P|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-1|010|Caterpie|C|C|C|C|C|C|C|T|T|C|C|T|T|T|D|D|D|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-1|011|Metapod|C|C|C|C|C|C|C|T|T|C|C|T|T|T|D|D|D|C|C}}<br /> 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{{Avail-1|124|Jynx|R|R|R|T|C|C|C|T|T|R|R|T|T|T|E|E|E|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-1|125|Electabuzz|C|T|T|T|C|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|T|S|E|E|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-1|126|Magmar|T|C|T|T|C|C|C|T|T|T|C|T|T|S|E|E|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-1|127|Pinsir|R|C|C|C|C|C|C|C|C|T|C|C|T|S|T|C|S|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-1|128|Tauros|C|C|C|C|C|C|C|T|T|C|C|T|T|S|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-1|129|Magikarp|C|C|C|C|C|C|C|C|C|C|C|C|T|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-1|130|Gyarados|E|E|E|C|C|C|C|C|C|C|C|C|T|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-1|131|Lapras|R|R|R|R|C|C|C|T|T|C|C|T|T|S|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-1|132|Ditto|C|C|C|C|C|C|C|T|T|C|C|C|T|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-1|133|Eevee|R|R|R|R|R|R|R|T|T|R|R|T|T|R|R|R|R|R|R}}<br /> {{Avail-1|134|Vaporeon|E|E|E|E|E|E|E|T|T|E|E|T|T|E|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-1|135|Jolteon|E|E|E|E|E|E|E|T|T|E|E|T|T|E|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-1|136|Flareon|E|E|E|E|E|E|E|T|T|E|E|T|T|E|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-1|137|Porygon|R|R|R|R|R|R|R|T|T|R|R|T|T|T|C|C|R|R|R}}<br /> {{Avail-1|138|Omanyte|R|R|R|R|T|T|T|T|T|R|R|T|T|T|R|R|R|R|T}}<br /> {{Avail-1|139|Omastar|E|E|E|E|T|T|T|T|T|E|E|T|T|T|E|E|E|E|T}}<br /> {{Avail-1|140|Kabuto|R|R|R|R|T|T|T|T|T|R|R|T|T|T|R|R|R|T|R}}<br /> {{Avail-1|141|Kabutops|E|E|E|E|T|T|T|T|T|E|E|T|T|T|E|E|E|T|E}}<br /> {{Avail-1|142|Aerodactyl|R|R|R|R|R|R|R|T|T|R|R|T|T|T|R|R|R|R|R}}<br /> {{Avail-1|143|Snorlax|C|C|C|C|R|R|R|T|T|C|C|T|T|S|E|E|E|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-1|144|Articuno|C|C|C|C|T|T|T|T|T|C|C|T|T|S|P|P|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-1|145|Zapdos|C|C|C|C|T|T|T|T|T|C|C|T|T|S|P|P|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-1|146|Moltres|C|C|C|C|T|T|T|T|T|C|C|T|T|S|P|P|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-1|147|Dratini|C|C|C|C|C|C|C|T|T|C|C|T|T|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-1|148|Dragonair|E|E|E|C|C|C|C|T|T|C|C|T|T|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-1|149|Dragonite|E|E|E|E|E|E|E|T|T|E|E|T|T|S|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-1|150|Mewtwo|C|C|C|C|T|T|T|T|T|C|C|T|T|T|P|P|P|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-1|151|Mew|T|T|T|T|T|T|T|T|T|T|T|Ev|T|T|P|P|P|Ev|Ev}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Generation II 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{{Avail-2|205|Forretress|E|E|E|T|T|T|T|E|S|E|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-2|206|Dunsparce|C|C|C|T|T|C|C|T|S|T|S|S|S|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|207|Gligar|C|T|C|T|T|T|T|C|S|C|D|D|C|C|T}}<br /> {{Avail-2|208|Steelix|E|E|E|T|T|E|E|T|T|T|C|C|C|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-2|209|Snubbull|C|C|C|T|T|T|T|C|T|T|S|S|S|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|210|Granbull|E|E|C|T|T|T|T|E|S|T|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-2|211|Qwilfish|C|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|S|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|212|Scizor|E|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|T|E|E|T|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-2|213|Shuckle|C|C|C|T|T|T|T|C|S|R|D|D|D|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|214|Heracross|C|C|C|C|C|C|C|C|S|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|215|Sneasel|C|C|C|T|T|T|C|T|S|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|216|Teddiursa|C|T|C|T|T|T|T|C|T|S|D|D|D|T|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|217|Ursaring|C|T|C|T|T|T|T|E|S|E|D|D|D|T|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|218|Slugma|C|C|C|C|C|C|C|C|S|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|219|Magcargo|E|E|E|E|E|C|E|E|E|S|C|C|C|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-2|220|Swinub|C|C|C|T|T|C|C|T|T|S|S|S|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|221|Piloswine|E|E|E|T|T|E|E|T|S|E|E|E|C|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-2|222|Corsola|C|C|C|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|S|S|S|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|223|Remoraid|C|C|T|T|T|T|C|C|S|T|C|C|C|S|S}}<br /> {{Avail-2|224|Octillery|E|E|T|T|T|T|E|E|E|T|C|C|C|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-2|225|Delibird|T|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|S|T|S|S|S|T|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|226|Mantine|C|T|C|T|T|T|C|T|S|T|E|E|E|C|T}}<br /> {{Avail-2|227|Skarmory|T|C|C|C|C|C|T|C|S|T|C|C|C|T|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|228|Houndour|C|C|C|T|T|T|T|C|T|S|T|B|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|229|Houndoom|E|E|E|T|T|T|T|E|S|E|T|C|E|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|230|Kingdra|E|E|E|E|E|E|E|E|T|T|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-2|231|Phanpy|T|C|C|C|C|C|C|C|T|C|S|S|S|C|T}}<br /> {{Avail-2|232|Donphan|T|C|C|E|E|E|E|E|T|E|E|E|E|C|T}}<br /> {{Avail-2|233|Porygon2|E|E|E|T|T|E|E|T|T|T|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-2|234|Stantler|C|C|C|T|T|T|T|C|S|T|T|C|T|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|235|Smeargle|C|C|C|T|T|T|T|C|S|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|236|Tyrogue|R|R|R|T|T|B|B|T|T|T|C|C|C|R|R}}<br /> {{Avail-2|237|Hitmontop|E|E|E|T|T|E|E|T|S|T|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-2|238|Smoochum|B|B|B|T|T|B|B|T|T|T|S|S|C|B|B}}<br /> {{Avail-2|239|Elekid|B|B|B|T|T|B|T|T|T|R|D|D|B|B|B}}<br /> {{Avail-2|240|Magby|B|B|B|T|T|T|B|T|T|T|D|D|B|B|B}}<br /> {{Avail-2|241|Miltank|C|C|C|T|T|T|T|C|S|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|242|Blissey|E|E|E|T|T|E|E|T|T|E|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-2|243|Raikou|C|C|C|T|T|C|C|T|S|T|P|P|P|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|244|Entei|C|C|C|T|T|C|C|T|S|T|P|P|P|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|245|Suicune|C|C|C|T|T|C|C|T|S|T|P|P|P|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|246|Larvitar|C|C|C|T|T|C|C|T|T|R|C|T|S|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|247|Pupitar|E|C|E|T|T|E|E|T|T|E|E|T|E|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|248|Tyranitar|E|C|E|T|T|E|E|T|S|E|E|T|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-2|249|Lugia|C|C|C|T|T|Ev|Ev|Ev|T|S|P|P|P|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|250|Ho-Oh|C|C|C|T|T|Ev|Ev|Ev|R|T|P|P|P|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-2|251|Celebi|T|T|Ev|T|T|T|T|T|T|T|P|P|P|P|P}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Generation III Pokémon==<br /> {| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #ccf;&quot;<br /> ! rowspan=&quot;2&quot; | #<br /> ! rowspan=&quot;2&quot; | Icon<br /> ! rowspan=&quot;2&quot; | Name<br /> ! colspan=&quot;12&quot; | Game<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #ccf;&quot;<br /> ! colspan=&quot;5&quot; width=&quot;100 px&quot;| &lt;small&gt;Generation III&lt;/small&gt;<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; width=&quot;40 px&quot;| &lt;small&gt;GCN&lt;/small&gt;<br /> ! colspan=&quot;5&quot; width=&quot;100 px&quot;| &lt;small&gt;Generation IV&lt;/small&gt;<br /> {{Avail-3|252|Treecko|R|R|T|T|R|T|T|P|P|P|R|R}}<br /> {{Avail-3|253|Grovyle|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|P|P|P|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|254|Sceptile|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|P|P|P|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|255|Torchic|R|R|T|T|R|T|T|P|P|P|R|R}}<br /> {{Avail-3|256|Combusken|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|P|P|P|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|257|Blaziken|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|P|P|P|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|258|Mudkip|R|R|T|T|R|T|T|P|P|P|R|R}}<br /> {{Avail-3|259|Marshtomp|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|P|P|P|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|260|Swampert|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|P|P|P|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|261|Poochyena|C|C|T|T|C|T|S|B|T|B|S|S}}<br /> {{Avail-3|262|Mightyena|E|E|T|T|C|T|E|C|T|C|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|263|Zigzagoon|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|S|S|S|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|264|Linoone|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|E|E|E|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|265|Wurmple|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|266|Silcoon|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|C|E|E|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|267|Beautifly|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|C|E|E|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|268|Cascoon|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|E|C|E|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|269|Dustox|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|E|C|E|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|270|Lotad|S|C|T|T|C|T|T|D|D|D|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|271|Lombre|E|C|T|T|C|T|T|D|D|D|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|272|Ludicolo|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|273|Seedot|C|S|T|T|C|T|S|D|D|D|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|274|Nuzleaf|C|E|T|T|C|T|E|D|D|D|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|275|Shiftry|E|E|T|T|E|T|E|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|276|Taillow|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|B|B|B|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|277|Swellow|C|C|T|T|C|T|S|C|C|C|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|278|Wingull|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|C|C|C|S|S}}<br /> {{Avail-3|279|Pelipper|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|C|C|C|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|280|Ralts|C|C|T|T|C|T|S|C|C|C|S|S}}<br /> {{Avail-3|281|Kirlia|E|E|T|T|E|T|E|C|C|C|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|282|Gardevoir|E|E|T|T|E|T|E|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|283|Surskit|C|C|T|T|S|T|C|S|S|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|284|Masquerain|E|E|T|T|S|T|E|E|E|E|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|285|Shroomish|C|C|T|T|C|T|S|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|286|Breloom|E|E|T|T|E|T|E|E|E|E|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|287|Slakoth|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|S|S|S|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|288|Vigoroth|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|E|E|E|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|289|Slaking|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|290|Nincada|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|291|Ninjask|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|292|Shedinja|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|293|Whismur|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|B|B|B|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|294|Loudred|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|C|C|C|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|295|Exploud|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|296|Makuhita|C|C|T|T|C|S|S|S|S|S|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|297|Hariyama|C|C|T|T|C|E|E|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|298|Azurill|B|B|T|B|B|T|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|299|Nosepass|C|C|T|T|C|T|S|S|S|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|300|Skitty|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|S|S|S|T|T}}<br /> {{Avail-3|301|Delcatty|E|E|T|T|E|T|S|E|E|E|T|T}}<br /> {{Avail-3|302|Sableye|T|C|T|T|C|T|S|D|D|D|S|T}}<br /> {{Avail-3|303|Mawile|C|T|T|T|C|T|S|D|D|D|T|S}}<br /> {{Avail-3|304|Aron|C|C|T|T|C|T|C|C|T|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|305|Lairon|C|C|T|T|C|T|E|E|T|E|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|306|Aggron|E|E|T|T|E|T|E|E|T|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|307|Meditite|C|C|T|T|T|S|R|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|308|Medicham|C|C|T|T|T|E|E|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|309|Electrike|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|S|S|S|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|310|Manectric|C|C|T|T|C|T|S|E|E|E|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|311|Plusle|C|C|T|T|C|R|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|312|Minun|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|313|Volbeat|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|314|Illumise|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|315|Roselia|C|C|T|T|T|T|S|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|316|Gulpin|C|C|T|T|C|T|S|C|C|C|T|S}}<br /> {{Avail-3|317|Swalot|E|E|T|T|E|T|E|E|E|E|T|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|318|Carvanha|C|C|T|T|C|T|S|C|C|C|T|T}}<br /> {{Avail-3|319|Sharpedo|C|C|T|T|C|T|E|C|C|C|T|T}}<br /> {{Avail-3|320|Wailmer|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|C|C|C|T|T}}<br /> {{Avail-3|321|Wailord|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|C|C|C|T|T}}<br /> {{Avail-3|322|Numel|C|C|T|T|C|T|S|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|323|Camerupt|E|E|T|T|E|T|E|C|C|C|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|324|Torkoal|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|325|Spoink|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|S|S|S|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|326|Grumpig|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|327|Spinda|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|S|S|S|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|328|Trapinch|C|C|T|T|C|T|C|C|C|T|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|329|Vibrava|E|E|T|T|E|S|E|E|E|T|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|330|Flygon|E|E|T|T|E|E|E|E|E|T|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|331|Cacnea|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|332|Cacturne|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|333|Swablu|C|C|T|T|C|S|T|C|C|C|S|S}}<br /> {{Avail-3|334|Altaria|C|C|T|T|C|E|S|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|335|Zangoose|C|T|T|T|T|T|S|D|D|D|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|336|Seviper|T|C|T|T|C|T|T|D|D|D|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|337|Lunatone|T|C|T|T|T|T|S|D|D|D|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|338|Solrock|C|T|T|T|C|T|S|D|D|D|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|339|Barboach|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|340|Whiscash|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|C|C|C|S|S}}<br /> {{Avail-3|341|Corphish|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|342|Crawdaunt|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|343|Baltoy|C|C|T|T|C|T|S|C|C|C|S|T}}<br /> {{Avail-3|344|Claydol|C|C|T|T|C|T|E|E|E|E|E|T}}<br /> {{Avail-3|345|Lileep|R|R|T|T|R|T|T|R|R|R|T|R}}<br /> {{Avail-3|346|Cradily|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|E|E|E|T|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|347|Anorith|R|R|T|T|R|T|T|R|R|R|R|T}}<br /> {{Avail-3|348|Armaldo|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|E|E|E|E|T}}<br /> {{Avail-3|349|Feebas|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|C|C|C|T|T}}<br /> {{Avail-3|350|Milotic|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|E|E|E|T|T}}<br /> {{Avail-3|351|Castform|R|R|T|T|R|T|T|C|C|C|T|T}}<br /> {{Avail-3|352|Kecleon|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|C|T|C|T|T}}<br /> {{Avail-3|353|Shuppet|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|B|B|B|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|354|Banette|C|C|T|T|C|T|S|C|C|C|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|355|Duskull|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|356|Dusclops|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|357|Tropius|C|C|T|T|C|S|T|T|T|C|T|T}}<br /> {{Avail-3|358|Chimecho|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|359|Absol|C|C|T|T|C|S|T|S|S|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|360|Wynaut|C|C|B|B|C|T|T|B|B|B|B|B}}<br /> {{Avail-3|361|Snorunt|C|C|T|T|C|T|S|C|C|C|T|T}}<br /> {{Avail-3|362|Glalie|E|E|T|T|E|T|E|E|E|E|T|T}}<br /> {{Avail-3|363|Spheal|C|C|T|T|C|T|S|T|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|364|Sealeo|E|E|T|T|E|T|E|T|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|365|Walrein|E|E|T|T|E|T|E|T|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|366|Clamperl|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|C|C|T|S|S}}<br /> {{Avail-3|367|Huntail|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|E|E|T|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|368|Gorebyss|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|E|E|T|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|369|Relicanth|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|C|C|C|S|S}}<br /> {{Avail-3|370|Luvdisc|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|C|C|C|S|S}}<br /> {{Avail-3|371|Bagon|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|T|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|372|Shelgon|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|T|E|E|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|373|Salamence|E|E|T|T|E|T|S|T|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|374|Beldum|R|R|T|T|R|T|T|S|S|S|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|375|Metang|E|E|T|T|E|T|T|E|E|E|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|376|Metagross|E|E|T|T|E|S|T|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-3|377|Regirock|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|T|T|Ev}}<br /> {{Avail-3|378|Regice|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|T|T|Ev}}<br /> {{Avail-3|379|Registeel|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|T|T|Ev}}<br /> {{Avail-3|380|Latias|Ev|C|T|T|C|T|T|P|P|P|C|Ev}}<br /> {{Avail-3|381|Latios|C|Ev|T|T|C|T|T|P|P|P|Ev|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|382|Kyogre|T|C|T|T|C|T|T|P|P|P|C|T}}<br /> {{Avail-3|383|Groudon|C|T|T|T|C|T|T|P|P|P|T|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|384|Rayquaza|C|C|T|T|C|T|T|P|P|P|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-3|385|Jirachi|Ev|Ev|T|T|T|T|T|P|P|P|Ev|Ev}}<br /> {{Avail-3|386|Deoxys|T|T|Ev|Ev|Ev|T|T|P|P|P|P|P}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Generation IV Pokémon==<br /> {| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #ccf;&quot;<br /> ! rowspan=&quot;2&quot; | #<br /> ! rowspan=&quot;2&quot; | Icon<br /> ! rowspan=&quot;2&quot; | Name<br /> ! colspan=&quot;5&quot; | Game<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #ccf;&quot;<br /> ! colspan=&quot;5&quot; width=&quot;100 px&quot;| &lt;small&gt;Generation IV&lt;/small&gt;<br /> {{Avail-4|387|Turtwig|R|R|R}}<br /> {{Avail-4|388|Grotle|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|389|Torterra|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|390|Chimchar|R|R|R}}<br /> {{Avail-4|391|Monferno|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|392|Infernape|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|393|Piplup|R|R|R}}<br /> {{Avail-4|394|Prinplup|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|395|Empoleon|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|396|Starly|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|397|Staravia|C|C|C|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|398|Staraptor|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|399|Bidoof|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|400|Bibarel|C|C|C|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|401|Kricketot|C|C|C|S|S}}<br /> {{Avail-4|402|Kricketune|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|403|Shinx|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|404|Luxio|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|405|Luxray|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|406|Budew|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|407|Roserade|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|408|Cranidos|R|T|R}}<br /> {{Avail-4|409|Rampardos|E|T|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|410|Shieldon|T|R|R}}<br /> {{Avail-4|411|Bastiodon|T|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|412|Burmy|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|413|Wormadam|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|414|Mothim|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|415|Combee|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|416|Vespiquen|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|417|Pachirisu|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|418|Buizel|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|419|Floatzel|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|420|Cherubi|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|421|Cherrim|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|422|Shellos|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|423|Gastrodon|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|424|Ambipom|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|425|Drifloon|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|426|Drifblim|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|427|Buneary|C|C|C|S|S}}<br /> {{Avail-4|428|Lopunny|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|429|Mismagius|T|E|T|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|430|Honchkrow|E|T|T|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|431|Glameow|T|C|T}}<br /> {{Avail-4|432|Purugly|T|C|T}}<br /> {{Avail-4|433|Chingling|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|434|Stunky|C|T|T}}<br /> {{Avail-4|435|Skuntank|C|T|T}}<br /> {{Avail-4|436|Bronzor|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|437|Bronzong|C|C|C|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|438|Bonsly|C|C|C|B|B}}<br /> {{Avail-4|439|Mime Jr.|C|C|C|B|B}}<br /> {{Avail-4|440|Happiny|R|R|R|B|B}}<br /> {{Avail-4|441|Chatot|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|442|Spiritomb|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|443|Gible|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|444|Gabite|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|445|Garchomp|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|446|Munchlax|C|C|C|B|B}}<br /> {{Avail-4|447|Riolu|R|R|R|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|448|Lucario|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|449|Hippopotas|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|450|Hippowdon|C|C|C|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|451|Skorupi|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|452|Drapion|C|C|C|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|453|Croagunk|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|454|Toxicroak|C|C|C|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|455|Carnivine|C|C|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|456|Finneon|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|457|Lumineon|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|458|Mantyke|C|C|C|B|T}}<br /> {{Avail-4|459|Snover|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|460|Abomasnow|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|461|Weavile|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|462|Magnezone|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|463|Lickilicky|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|464|Rhyperior|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|465|Tangrowth|T|T|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|466|Electivire|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|467|Magmortar|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|468|Togekiss|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|469|Yanmega|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|470|Leafeon|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|471|Glaceon|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|472|Gliscor|E|E|E|E|T}}<br /> {{Avail-4|473|Mamoswine|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|474|Porygon-Z|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|475|Gallade|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|476|Probopass|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|477|Dusknoir|E|E|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|478|Froslass|E|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-4|479|Rotom|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|480|Uxie|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|481|Mesprit|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|482|Azelf|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|483|Dialga|C|T|C|Ev|Ev}}<br /> {{Avail-4|484|Palkia|T|C|C|Ev|Ev}}<br /> {{Avail-4|485|Heatran|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|486|Regigigas|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|487|Giratina|C|C|C|Ev|Ev}}<br /> {{Avail-4|488|Cresselia|C|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-4|489|Phione|B|B|B}}<br /> {{Avail-4|490|Manaphy|Ev|Ev|Ev}}<br /> {{Avail-4|491|Darkrai|Ev|Ev|Ev}}<br /> {{Avail-4|492|Shaymin|Ev|Ev|Ev}}<br /> {{Avail-4|493|Arceus|Ev|Ev|Ev}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Generation V Pokémon==<br /> {| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #ccf;&quot;<br /> ! rowspan=&quot;2&quot; | #<br /> ! rowspan=&quot;2&quot; | Icon<br /> ! rowspan=&quot;2&quot; | Name<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Game<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #ccf;&quot;<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; width=&quot;40 px&quot;| &lt;small&gt;Generation V&lt;/small&gt;<br /> {{Avail-5|494|Victini|Ev|Ev}}<br /> {{Avail-5|495|Tsutarja|R|R}}<br /> {{Avail-5|496|Janovy|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|497|Jalorda|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|498|Pokabu|R|R}}<br /> {{Avail-5|499|Chaoboo|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|500|Enbuoh|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|501|Mijumaru|R|R}}<br /> {{Avail-5|502|Futachimaru|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|503|Daikenki|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|504|Minezumi|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|505|Miruhog|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|506|Yorterrie|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|507|Haderia|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|508|Murando|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|509|Choroneko|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|510|Lepardas|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|511|Yanappu|R|R}}<br /> {{Avail-5|512|Yanakkie|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|513|Baoppu|R|R}}<br /> {{Avail-5|514|Baokkie|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|515|Hiyappu|R|R}}<br /> {{Avail-5|516|Hiyakkie|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|517|Munna|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|518|Musharna|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|519|Mamepato|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|520|Hatooboo|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|521|Kenhorou|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|522|Shimama|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|523|Zeburaika|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|524|Dangoro|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|525|Gantoru|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|526|Gigaiath|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|527|Koromori|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|528|Kokoromori|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|529|Mogurew|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|530|Doryuzu|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|531|Tabunne|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|532|Dokkora|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|533|Dotekkotsu|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|534|Roobushin|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|535|Otamaro|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|536|Gamagaru|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|537|Gamageroge|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|538|Nageki|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|539|Dageki|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|540|Kurumiru|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|541|Kurumayu|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|542|Hahakomori|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|543|Fushide|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|544|Hoiiga|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|545|Pendra|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|546|Monmen|C|T}}<br /> {{Avail-5|547|Erufuun|C|T}}<br /> {{Avail-5|548|Churine|T|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|549|Doredia|T|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|550|Basurao|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|551|Meguroco|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|552|Waruvile|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|553|Waruvial|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|554|Darumakka|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|555|Hihidaruma|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|556|Marakacchi|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|557|Ishizumai|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|558|Iwaparesu|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|559|Zuruggu|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|560|Zuruzukin|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|561|Shinbora|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|562|Desumasu|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|563|Desukaan|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|564|Purotoga|R|R}}<br /> {{Avail-5|565|Abagoura|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|566|Aaken|R|R}}<br /> {{Avail-5|567|Archeos|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|568|Yabukuron|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|569|Dasutodasu|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|570|Zorua|Ev|Ev}}<br /> {{Avail-5|571|Zoroark|Ev|Ev}}<br /> {{Avail-5|572|Chillarmy|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|573|Chillaccino|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|574|Gothimu|C|T}}<br /> {{Avail-5|575|Gochimiru|C|T}}<br /> {{Avail-5|576|Gochiruzeru|C|T}}<br /> {{Avail-5|577|Yuniran|T|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|578|Daburan|T|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|579|Rankurusu|T|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|580|Koaruhie|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|581|Swanna|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|582|Vanipeti|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|583|Baniricchi|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|584|Baibanira|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|585|Shikijika|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|586|Mebukijika|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|587|Emonga|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|588|Kaburumo|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|589|Shubarugo|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|590|Tamagetake|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|591|Morobareru|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|592|Pururiru|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|593|Burungel|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|594|Mamanbou|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|595|Bachuru|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|596|Denchura|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|597|Tesshido|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|598|Nattorei|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|599|Giaru|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|600|Gigiaru|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|601|Gigigiaru|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|602|Shibishirasu|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|603|Shibibiru|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|604|Shibirudon|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|605|Riguree|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|606|Oobemu|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|607|Hitomoshi|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|608|Ranpuraa|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|609|Shandera|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|610|Kibago|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|611|Onondo|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|612|Ononokus|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|613|Kumasyun|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|614|Tsunbear|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|615|Furiijio|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|616|Chobomaki|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|617|Agirudaa|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|618|Maggyo|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|619|Kojofu|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|620|Kojondo|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|621|Crimgan|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|622|Gobitto|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|623|Goruggo|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|624|Komatana|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|625|Kirikizan|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|626|Buffalon|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|627|Washibon|T|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|628|Wargle|T|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|629|Baruchai|C|T}}<br /> {{Avail-5|630|Barujiina|C|T}}<br /> {{Avail-5|631|Kuitaran|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|632|Aianto|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|633|Monozu|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|634|Jiheddo|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|635|Sazandora|E|E}}<br /> {{Avail-5|636|Meraruba|R|R}}<br /> {{Avail-5|637|Ulgamoth|R|R}}<br /> {{Avail-5|638|Cobalon|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|639|Terrakion|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|640|Virizion|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|641|Tornelos|C|T}}<br /> {{Avail-5|642|Voltolos|T|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|643|Reshiram|C|T}}<br /> {{Avail-5|644|Zekrom|T|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|645|Landlos|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|646|Kyurem|C|C}}<br /> {{Avail-5|647|Keldeo|?|?}}<br /> {{Avail-5|648|Meloetta|?|?}}<br /> {{Avail-5|649|Genesect|Ev|Ev}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Key==<br /> <br /> ===Obtained by Poké Ball===<br /> The following denote Pokémon which can be caught in the wild.<br /> <br /> * '''C''': Catch. The Pokémon can be caught in the wild. This includes [[Poké Radar]]-exclusive Pokémon, the [[Safari Zone]], and the [[Sinnoh]] [[Great Marsh]].<br /> * '''S''': [[Swarm]]s. The Pokémon can be caught in the wild, but only during swarms. In Pokémon Colosseum and Pokémon XD, 'S' instead stands for [[snagging]].<br /> * '''D''': [[Dual-slot mode]]. The Pokémon can be caught in the wild in this game, but only when the appropriate [[Generation III]] game is inserted into the GBA slot.<br /> <br /> ===Obtained by other method===<br /> <br /> * '''B''': [[Breeding|Breed]]. The Pokémon cannot be caught in this game, but a later evolution can be obtained. This can breed to produce the Pokémon in this game.<br /> * '''E''': [[Evolution|Evolve]]. The Pokémon cannot be caught in this game, but a previous evolution can be obtained. This can evolve into the Pokémon in this game.<br /> * '''R''': Receive. The Pokémon cannot be caught in this game, but can be received as a [[starter Pokémon]], as an in-game gift, or as an in-game trade.<br /> <br /> ===Not available===<br /> <br /> * '''Ev''': [[Event]]. The Pokémon can be obtained via a Nintendo event.<br /> * '''P''': [[Pal Park]]. The Pokémon can be traded from a [[Generation III]] game.<br /> * '''T''': [[Trade]]. The Pokémon can be traded from another [[Generation IV]] game.<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> * Despite {{p|Pikachu}} being the mascot of the [[Pokémon]] franchise, {{p|Zubat}}, {{p|Golbat}}, {{p|Rhydon}}, {{p|Voltorb}}, {{p|Electrode}}, {{p|Grimer}}, {{p|Muk}}, {{p|Dodrio}}, and {{p|Magneton}} have been obtainable in more games, with each obtainable in every game except [[Pokémon Colosseum|one]].<br /> ** And the only Pokémon prior to Generation IV to be obtainable in every game since its debut is {{p|Magcargo}}.<br /> *The legendary golems are the only non-event Pokémon unavailable in Generation IV without Pal Park, not including Phione as it is unavailable without Manaphy, itself being an event Pokémon.<br /> <br /> ==See also==<br /> {{Pokelist}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Lists]]</div>

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