Talk:Victor (game)

2025-02-13T07:54:24Z

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Exactly what the title says. Is there an exact source where he is clearly refered to as "Victor" instead of "Sword"?

[[User:Iluvchess|Iluvchess]] ([[User talk:Iluvchess|talk]]) 17:08, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

:The name has been used in various promotional media, such as the name on the [https://swordshield.pokemon.com/assets/img/screenshots/9_4_leaguecard_5.jpg League Card]. --[[User:Chao|'''超龍''']]「'''[[User talk:Chao|Chao]]'''」 01:08, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

== Adding photo to this page ==

I found an official artwork of Victor facing a gym leader with Scorbunny, since the other protagonist have official artwork on their page more than just their character render, I am thinking of adding the picture. But I want to ask permission first. So is it okay?

Link to the photo from Nintendo of America: https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1148263581961449472/photo/1

== Move ==

I suggest moving this page from "Victor (game)" to simply "[[Victor]]" (which is currently a short disambiguation page).

Related discussion: [[Bulbapedia talk:Editor's Hub#About the page titles like Red (game), Blue (game), etc.]] --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 03:10, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

== Possible name theme for the English version ==

How likely is it that the names for Victor and Gloria were intentionally chosen to reference God Save the King:

"Send him '''victor'''ious/Happy and '''glori'''ous"

and therefore form a connective reference much as their names in Asia already do? [[User:EclipseMT|EclipseMT]] ([[User talk:EclipseMT|talk]]) 07:54, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

Talk:Darkrai (Explorers of Time, Darkness, and Sky)

2024-09-29T04:25:43Z

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==Moves==
Darkrai does not have Disable. I have never seen him use it but I've seen him use Ominous Wind dozens of times. [[User:Sparky elemental|Sparky]] 21:04, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
: The AI varies the moves that Darkrai uses in each fight. The same applies to every single Pokémon fight that has ever happened and will happen in every single Pokémon game. --'''[[User:Darkeiya|Darkeiya]]''' ''[[User talk:Darkeiya|talk to me!]]'' 21:11, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

:: Should it be edited to show all the moves it has used or is it fine the way it is? [[User:Sparky elemental|Sparky]] 14:22, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

:: I remember it having Double Team when I battled it. if it does get edited, add that move to the list [[User:Gengarzilla|Gengarzilla]] 14:36, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

:: Necro. Here are the big details on Darkrai's moveset. It's completely randomized. His possible move pool includes anything that a level 53 Darkrai can use (based in the original Diamond/Pearl moveset in Time/Darkness, and with the PtHGSS moveset in Sky). I am uncertain as to whether random movesets are generated at file creation or on first encounter. In fact, random movesets are true for all bosses of the game except Koffing and Zubat at the beginning, Drowzee, and Primal Dialga (there are some bosses which are guaranteed to have at least one fixed move, but those cases still have at least one randomly selected move; Darkrai has absolutely no moves guaranteed to appear in his fight in either game). [[User:EclipseMT|EclipseMT]] ([[User talk:EclipseMT|talk]]) 04:25, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Sinjoh Ruins

2024-03-10T19:18:00Z

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''It is not a part of any known region, but its entry is found in Johto.''

"Entry" being [[Ruins of Alph]]? I'm doing the event right now, and the map says the Shinto Ruins are located in far northeast Johto... [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 09:31, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

== Sinnoh? ==
Since Shinto Ruins are in northeast Johto, its name is a combination of ''Shin'ō'' (Sinnoh) and ''Jōto'' (Johto), and it has the legends of Johto and Sinnoh, has anyone thought that, like the Tohjo Falls, Shinto Ruins might connect the Johto region to the Sinnoh region?[[User:Alec9|''alec'''9''''']] [[Special:Contributions/Alec9|*]] [[User talk:Alec9|-]] [[Gallade (Pokémon)|*]] 13:49, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
:Believe it or not, it's there already. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:33, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

== The info box. ==

It's a little confusing, the location says "North of Johto" and the region says, "Johto". If we can, can we change it a little? And supposedly, we are not sure where the location is.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 05:17, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
:On a similar note, [[Faraway Island]] says that it's in Hoenn, even though you aren't anywhere on the PokéNav's map when you're there. Shouldn't it be listed as "Outside of Hoenn", much like this should read "Outside of Johto"?--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 13:39, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
:: If you put "North of Johto" in the region, the map automatically changes into "[[a:File:North of Johto Shinto Ruins map.png|File:North of Johto Shinto Ruins map.png]]" --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] 15:02, 30 January 2010 (UTC)instead of "[[a:File:Johto Shinto Ruins map.png|File:Johto Shinto Ruins map.png]]".
:::^No it doesn't--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 15:06, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

== Returning after the event ==

Is it possible to get back to the Shinto Ruins after doing the event? [[User:Blueapple128|Blueapple128]] 01:20, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
:I'd say highly likely no, if you got your DPG already. If you used the Abra to teleport back to New Bark, though, you can go back later on. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:40, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
::You can, actually. If you take the Arceus down to the ruins themselves, you can teleport back there... I went through the 'secret' way with the four-items room (the first one to be exact), I have no idea if it works with the normal entrance. Investigating! ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 19:33, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
:::So um... guess who just got a Dialga *and* a Giratina from that event... am I really the first one to discover this? O_o; I used two different Arceus though, if that matters... going to try and get Palkia too with the same one. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 19:40, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
:::So you can get all three from one? And do it more than once with different Arceus?--[[User:Skymin23|FlyingSkymin23]] 20:00, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
::::With the way it looks right now, you'll need three different Arceus to get in this place to get all three of the dragons. If you guys want proof or anything I can take pictures... ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 20:04, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::Okay, using the third different Arceus I had... didn't work. Anyone with HGSS want to have a go at investigating this? Yes? No? ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 20:22, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::So... maybe another entrance?--[[User:Skymin23|FlyingSkymin23]] 20:29, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::[[Looker|Investigation]]... underway... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:48, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::::What does this have to do with Looker?--[[User:Skymin23|FlyingSkymin23]] 22:14, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Um... observation... Looker observes... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:27, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::So let me get this straight. There's a main entrance, and another one in the first hidden room. I was only aware of one entrance. If they made another one, there's gotta be one more. Also after you used the main entrance, what happens to it?--[[User:Skymin23|FlyingSkymin23]] 22:49, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::I oddly haven't gotten it to work with any of my other Arceus (I have three). Tina says she used a [[Hall of Origin]] Arceus to do the event, though, and a TRU event Arceus brought her back there with the secret way... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:02, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::Is it in the game code?--[[User:Skymin23|FlyingSkymin23]] 23:08, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

== Real-life pictures ==

Would it be prudent to either list, give examples or have a small gallery of the pictures from the event? It's a unique enough even to warrant more than just a trivia mention, I think. Plus, I like astronomy, and (in order) they show the Horsehead Nebula, the Rosette Nebula, the Ring Nebula, the Orion Nebula, and later the Andromeda Galaxy. I don't know any of the cities or buildings though. [[User:Jazzmoth|Jazzmoth]] 02:53, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

== Would someone anwser my question below? ==

Ok, here is my question, Can you do this with a cheated [[Arceus]]? I want to know because my friend has 5 cheated [[Arceus]]. Happy Holidays, [[User:?????]]
:Any Arceus which has the [[fateful encounter]] flag set can be used for this, cheated or not. If you nabbed the one from Spear Pillar, I don't believe you can, though, as it has no fateful encounter flag set. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:39, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
::Okay I lied. As long as it's from the Hall of Origin or something. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:03, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

== Sinjoh Ruins ==

Serebii says that's the US name, but with the Lyra/Ethan stuff, I don't know whether you guys'd like to wait. {{color|00DD00|--[[User:Bulbafan|Bulbafan]] 22:54, 2 February 2010 (UTC)}}
:Yup. We're going to wait for the game to come out (or at least see a good, official source that isn't just Serebii) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 22:58, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

==Template==
Because the page is locked (stupid gunjumpers...) I can't add the Legendary Pokémon locations template. Would an admin care to add it? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 01:01, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

== Portmanteau ==

This a nitpicky request, but in the Name Origin section, the word Sinjoh would technically be called a blend of Sinnoh and Johto rather than a portmanteau. Then, you could get rid of the clumsy description that it uses "the beginning [of Johto] rather than the end." Just a little professional opinion. ;) [[User:Jazzmoth|Jazzmoth]] 08:53, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

== revisit ==

Bulbapedia user Tina discovered a way to revisit the Sinjoh Ruins with the Arceus obtained from the Hall of Origin. TTEchidna made a video about that. Should we note that in the article?--[[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 21:14, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:Really would prefer it if specific names weren't mentioned, but yeah, I think it should be noted in the article... now that we've got more than just one person revisiting the event (and actually SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT IT rage). I don't really know where or how I'd incorporate it in the article though D: ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 21:20, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::Ugh....Serebii.net revealed this two months ago. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 21:29, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Done.--[[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 21:47, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

==Moves==
When I got my Giratina from the event, it didn't have Shadow Sneak.Any reason why?--[[User:Skymin23|FlyingSkymin23]] 17:05, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
:Because it's not supposed to? Giratina doesn't get Shadow Sneak in HGSS until like, what, level 19? And doesn't learn it at all in DPPt. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 18:26, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
::I thought it was supposed to have a special move when you did the event? I'm confused.
:::Sry I forgot sig.--[[User:Skymin23|FlyingSkymin23]] 18:35, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
::::It's not. It's just a level up move. All Giratina know Dragonbreath and Scary Face if you got it from Sinjoh. For a while it was thought to be an event move due to how Corocoro(?) reported it before HGSS was out, but afterwards people learned it was just a level up move. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 18:40, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Thanks Tina. I feel so stupid.--[[User:Skymin23|FlyingSkymin23]] 18:44, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
==Trivia==
"The background music in this area is an arrangement of themes used in and on Mt. Coronet and the Distortion World, indicating a possible connection."
Is this really trivia? There's an obvious connection; this music plays in places where dialga palkia and giratina can be obtained. Anything beyond that is fan peculation and not information.[[User:Bug Catcher Wade|'''Bug Catcher Wade''']] 03:39, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
:I'm going to agree here. The music played is related to Dialgia, Palkia and Giratina, not Mt. Coronet or the Distortion World. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:21, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

== About the event and its images... ==

Shall I upload the images from the games? Where should I put it? How should I name them? (The photographs) [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 03:57, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:Hmm, they could be useful, but I don't know if we need them. I would say '''File:Sinjoh Ruins event #.png''' where # is the number that the photo appeared. So for the first photo that appeared, '''File:Sinjoh Ruins event 1.png'''. However, I don't we really want them—perhaps upload them to [http://pidgiwiki.netai.net/Main_Page PidgiWiki] for now (you better check with {{u|Immewnity}} first). If not, then even Photobucket or Imageshack is good. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:15, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
::We want them and that naming scheme is good. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:32, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:::50 images, including the first 3 effect images, then 3 Arceus (Inverted, Normal, Eye Only), 4 photos, 8 weird art (the last one gets reused for the rest of the event), 30 photos again, 2 eggs (one cracked). It totals 2 MB. They are all in PNG format. Should I include the ones that AREN'T photos? [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 08:23, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

== About the music ==

I'm listening to the music closely right now, and I realized that it's an arrangement of not only Mt. Coronet and Distortion World background music.
It contains the following (in this order):

*Mt. Coronet snowy area music
*Distortion World music
*Music from the D/P/Pt intro cinematic (Azure flute music)
*An excerpt of Spear Pillar theme (or Dialga/Palkia battle music)
*An excerpt of Giratina's Platinum battle music

It seems worth mentioning, but idk how to make it less bulky. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 03:57, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

== More talk about the real-world images ==

A user on Reddit was able to identify that all of the real-world photographs featured in the cutscene are from the Datacraft Sozaijiten stock image catalogue, a resource seemingly popular among Japanese developers. Out of the non-astronomy posts, a good portion of them are of an identifiable location and/or feature an identifiable landmark. Should this be included in the article in some form? If so, how?

(N.B.: Some of the images were aggregated from external sources before ending up on SZJT.)

[[User:EclipseMT|EclipseMT]] ([[User talk:EclipseMT|talk]]) 19:18, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

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