https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/api.php?action=feedcontributions&feedformat=atom&user=DwarfWoot 2026-06-21T07:38:39Z User contributions MediaWiki 1.43.8 https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Yancy&diff=1888091 2013-04-16T17:40:37Z

<p>DwarfWoot: /* Quotes: If you never do the Surveys */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>==Trivia==<br /> How is this? <br /> *Both Yancy and Curtis share their screen name with a [[Character of the day|minor character from the Pokémon anime]]. Yancy shares her screen name, Nancy, with [[Nancy|a character]] from ''[[AG095|The Evolutionary War!]]''; Curtis shares his Japanese screen name, Tenma with [[Tenma|a character]] from ''[[EP202|The Big Balloon Blow-Up]]''.<br /> I think it's a little bit too contrived, especially since they only share either their English screen name or their Japanese screen name. Maybe it could simply be shortened to this:<br /> *Yancy shares her screen name, [[Nancy]], with a [[Character of the day|minor character from the Pokémon anime]] from ''[[AG095|The Evolutionary War!]]''.<br /> Either way, I think it's somewhat interesting. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 14:09, 5 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == A question. ==<br /> <br /> Okay I know we can call her randomly in the areas that she calls us but if we can't call her? Do we have to soft/hard reset the game or just leave the place and come back? Also what's the chance of calling her in one area during one visit? Also do we have the options to call her in that particular spot? Or the whole route entirely? [[User:Flygonfanno1|Flygonfanno1]] ([[User talk:Flygonfanno1|talk]]) 05:14, 24 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> :You have to hunt for the location that she's in after meeting her for the first time. She's in one of the 15 locations; it can be soft-reset; however, you can't &quot;leave the place and come back&quot; because the location is set then. As for the locations, it does not have to be the specific spot but you have to call her in that location. [[User:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF1111&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;'''''ht'''''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;''14''&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 05:17, 24 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::In that &quot;location&quot; means the area around the 15 spots or the whole route? Sorry, I'v been trying to call her for an hour now and her number just doesn't turn up in the Xtransceiver :(. [[User:Flygonfanno1|Flygonfanno1]] ([[User talk:Flygonfanno1|talk]]) 05:22, 24 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> EDIT: Okay called her one time in the Nimbasa City, now I've to leave the the city and come back to call her in the same spot again or the tile is reset automatically, so I can continue hinting for the spot there? [[User:Flygonfanno1|Flygonfanno1]] ([[User talk:Flygonfanno1|talk]]) 05:25, 24 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> :Say you called at Nimbasa City... unless that location shows that you can call her twice (i.e. her name is there again), you'll need to search for her in the other 14 locations. [[User:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF1111&quot;&gt;&lt;sup&gt;'''''ht'''''&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Ht14|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;&lt;small&gt;''14''&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]] 05:28, 24 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> ::No I couldn't find her after that call, so I left to another location. Anyway thanks :) [[User:Flygonfanno1|Flygonfanno1]] ([[User talk:Flygonfanno1|talk]]) 05:30, 24 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == What is wrong? ==<br /> <br /> Okay I completed the 51 calls and beaten the Elite Four, but she's not appearing in front of the Ferris Wheel? What is wrong? [[User:Flygonfanno1|Flygonfanno1]] ([[User talk:Flygonfanno1|talk]]) 12:56, 24 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> :Same happened here: do I have to defeat the Elite Four ''after'' the 51 calls?--[[User:CiaobyDany|CiaobyDany]] ([[User talk:CiaobyDany|talk]]) 21:15, 22 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> :EDIT: You have to call her the day after the 51st then she will ask you to meet in front of the ferris wheel. {{unsigned|CiaobyDany}}<br /> <br /> == Real name? ==<br /> <br /> She says &quot;Hi, I'm Na-sorry, Yancy.&quot; What is her ''real name?''[[User:TeamPlasmaN1212|TeamPlasmaN1212]] 22:23, 25 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> :Her screen name is '''Na'''ncy. She accidentally used her psuedonym instead of her actual name. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 22:28, 25 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Xtransceiver Call Logs ==<br /> <br /> Hey I'm just wondering is there anywhere I can find out what she says for the 31-50 calls?<br /> [[User:Grogert331|Grogert331]] ([[User talk:Grogert331|talk]]) 19:02, 8 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == About the number of calls, ==<br /> <br /> From my own experience, you can start your trading with Yancy from the thirtieth call, not the fiftieth - as long as you have obtained the National Pokédex. She will only trade once a day as usual. Same goes with Curtis. [[User:Crystallinefeathers|Crystallinefeathers]] ([[User talk:Crystallinefeathers|talk]]) 00:32, 6 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> :I noticed that too, but I didn't even know about Yancy until after I had completed the storyline and obtained the National Dex, so that probably has something to do with it. '''[[Team Rocket|&lt;small&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #550000;&quot;&gt;R.A.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Hunter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|&lt;small&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#FF2400&quot;&gt;Blade&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/small&gt;]]''' 22:32, 7 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> Yes, I just got her to trade from call #34. I got to 33 yesterday, so I'm guessing you just need to wait a day after getting to 30 calls, not 50? I'm surprised more people haven't noticed. -[[User:Elementzn30|Elementzn30]] ([[User talk:Elementzn30|talk]]) 02:30, 22 March 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Quotes: If you never do the Surveys ==<br /> <br /> I don't see it mentioned in the Article, but if the player never actually does the Surveys, then she says slightly different things.<br /> Something more along the lines of &quot;Hi... Is this &lt;player&gt;? Really, that's you hobby? Oops! My colleague is calling me. I have to get back to work! Talk to you again. Good-bye.&quot; So basically just shorter quotes that don't include any details. [[User:DwarfWoot|DwarfWoot]] ([[User talk:DwarfWoot|talk]]) 17:40, 16 April 2013 (UTC)</div>

DwarfWoot https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Work_Up_(move)&diff=1274157 2010-12-03T19:08:17Z

<p>DwarfWoot: /* Trivia */</p> <hr /> <div>{{MoveInfobox|<br /> n=526 |<br /> name=Cheer Up |<br /> jname=ふるいたてる |<br /> jtrans=Cheer Up |<br /> desc={{tt|自分を　奮いたてて 攻撃と　特攻を　あげる。|The user cheers itself up to raise its Attack and Special Attack.}} |<br /> gameimage=Cheer_Up.png |<br /> type=Normal |<br /> damagecategory=Status |<br /> basepp=30|<br /> maxpp=48|<br /> power=— |<br /> accuracy=— |<br /> gen=V |<br /> pokefordex=cheer+up |<br /> touches=no|<br /> protect=no|<br /> magiccoat=no |<br /> snatch=yes |<br /> brightpowder=no |<br /> kingsrock=no |<br /> flag7=no |<br /> flag8=no |<br /> sound=no |<br /> tm5=yes|<br /> tm#5=83 |<br /> na=no|<br /> target=self |<br /> footnotes= }}<br /> (Japanese: '''ふるいたてる''' ''Cheer Up'') is a non-damaging {{type2|Normal}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation V]].<br /> <br /> ==Effect==<br /> Cheer Up raises the user's {{stat|Attack}} and {{stat|Special Attack}} stats by one stage each.<br /> <br /> ==Learnset==<br /> ===[[Generation V]]===<br /> ====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br /> {{Learnlist|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentry|128|Tauros|1|Normal||29|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|504|Minezumi|1|Normal||26|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|506|Yorterrie|1|Normal||19|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|507|Haderia|1|Normal||20|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|508|Murando|1|Normal||20|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|554|Darumakka|1|Fire||25|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|555|Hihidaruma|1|Fire||25|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|555|Hihidaruma|2|Fire|Psychic|25||Daruma}}<br /> {{Moveentry|633|Monozu|2|Dark|Dragon|38|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|634|Jiheddo|2|Dark|Dragon|38|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|635|Sazandora|2|Dark|Dragon|38|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|638|Cobalon|2|Steel|Fighting|61|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|639|Terrakion|2|Rock|Fighting|61|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|640|Virizion|2|Grass|Fighting|61|}}<br /> {{Moveentry|647|Keldeo|2|Water|Fighting|61|}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ====By [[TM83]]====<br /> {{Learnlist/TM|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|016|Pidgey|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> 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{{Moveentrytm|293|Whismur|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|294|Loudred|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|295|Exploud|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|296|Makuhita|1|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|297|Hariyama|1|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|298|Azurill|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|300|Skitty|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|301|Delcatty|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|307|Meditite|2|Fighting|Psychic}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|308|Medicham|2|Fighting|Psychic}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|327|Spinda|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|335|Zangoose|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|351|Castform|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|351|Castform|1|Fire|||Sun}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|351|Castform|1|Water|||Rain}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|351|Castform|1|Ice|||Hail}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|352|Kecleon|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|391|Monferno|2|Fire|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|392|Infernape|2|Fire|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|396|Starly|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|397|Staravia|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|398|Staraptor|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|399|Bidoof|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|400|Bibarel|2|Normal|Water}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|424|Ambipom|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|427|Buneary|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|428|Lopunny|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|431|Glameow|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|432|Purugly|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|440|Happiny|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|441|Chatot|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|446|Munchlax|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|447|Riolu|1|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|448|Lucario|2|Fighting|Steel}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|453|Croagunk|2|Poison|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|454|Toxicroak|2|Poison|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|463|Lickilicky|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|468|Togekiss|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|470|Leafeon|1|Grass}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|471|Glaceon|1|Ice}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|475|Gallade|2|Psychic|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|493|Arceus|1|{{Arceustype}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|494|Victini|2|Psychic|Fire}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|504|Minezumi|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|506|Yorterrie|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|507|Haderia|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|508|Murando|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|511|Yanappu|1|Grass}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|512|Yanakkie|1|Grass}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|513|Baoppu|1|Fire}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|514|Baokkie|1|Fire}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|515|Hiyappu|1|Water}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|516|Hiyakkie|1|Water}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|519|Mamepato|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|520|Hatooboo|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|521|Kenhorou|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|531|Tabunne|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|532|Dokkora|1|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|533|Dotekkotsu|1|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|534|Roobushin|1|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|538|Nageki|1|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|539|Dageki|1|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|554|Darumakka|1|Fire}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|555|Hihidaruma|1|Fire}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|555|Hihidaruma|1|Fire|Psychic||Daruma}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|559|Zuruggu|2|Dark|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|560|Zuruzukin|2|Dark|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|572|Chillarmy|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|573|Chillaccino|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|585|Shikijika|2|Normal|Grass}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|586|Mebukijika|2|Normal|Grass}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|619|Kojofu|1|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|620|Kojondo|1|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|626|Buffalon|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|627|Washibon|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|628|Wargle|2|Normal|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|633|Monozu|2|Dark|Dragon}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|634|Jiheddo|2|Dark|Dragon}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|635|Sazandora|2|Dark|Dragon}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|638|Cobalon|2|Steel|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|639|Terrakion|2|Rock|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|640|Virizion|2|Grass|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|647|Keldeo|2|Water|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|648|Meloetta|2|Normal|Psychic}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|648|Meloetta|2|Normal|Fighting||Step}}<br /> {{Learnlist/footer}}<br /> <br /> ==In the anime==<br /> {{moveanime|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user glows a reddish color, raising its Attack and Special Attack stats|image1=Hatooboo Cheer Up.png|image1p=Hatooboo}}<br /> {{movep|type=normal|ms=520|pkmn=Hatooboo|method=Hatooboo's body becomes surrounded by a crimson aura, raising its attack and special attack.}}<br /> {{movebtm|type=normal|user=Shooti|user1=Shooti's Hatooboo|startcode=BW010|startname=BW010|notes=Debut}}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> * All Pokémon that are capable of learning Cheer Up are majority {{t|Normal}} and {{type2|Fighting}}, with exception of {{p|Mew}}, [[elemental monkey]]s, {{p|Darumakka}}'s family, and {{p|Monozu}}'s family.<br /> * {{p|Tauros}} is the only non-[[Generation V]] Pokémon that is able to learn Cheer Up naturally.<br /> <br /> ==In other languages==<br /> {{Bulk Up}}<br /> {{Generation V TMs}}<br /> {{Project MoveDex notice}}<br /> <br /> [[de:Furui tateru]]<br /> [[ja:ふるいたてる]]</div>

DwarfWoot https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Reflect_Type_(move)&diff=1274063 2010-12-03T16:16:33Z

<p>DwarfWoot: </p> <hr /> <div>===Changing Into The Opponents Type===<br /> <br /> Does this include dual typed pokemon?[[User:Vuvuzela2010|Vuvuzela2010]] 13:22, 9 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == So let me get this straight... ==<br /> <br /> This move changes the user's type or types to match the foe's type or types. In other words, it functions exactly as {{m|Conversion}} did in Generation I. If this is right, shouldn't it be noted somewhere on the article? &lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' &lt;/small&gt; 21:04, 14 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Mew? ==<br /> <br /> Why is Mew listed as learning the move by leveling if the level is unknown/doesn't exist? Also, it seems like until a level is put there, a note of why the level is &quot;--&quot; should be made. [[User:DwarfWoot|DwarfWoot]] 16:16, 3 December 2010 (UTC)</div>

DwarfWoot https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Autotomize_(move)&diff=1273329 2010-12-02T19:55:15Z

<p>DwarfWoot: /* Really a variation of acid armor? */</p> <hr /> <div>== Really a variation of acid armor? ==<br /> <br /> I mean, it also decreases the user's weight. --[[User:Joeshie|&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold; color:#6B8E23; border: 2px dashed #99CC32;&quot;&gt;+ Joeshie +&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;''([[User talk:Joeshie|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#99CC32&quot;&gt;is Mæ!&lt;/span&gt;]])''&lt;/small&gt; 21:17, 23 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Really-ier? ==<br /> <br /> Now it is related to Iron Defense? Other than being Steel and affecting stats, they seem nothing alike.<br /> Shouldn't this be in its own category, especially since [to my knowledge] it is the only weight-lowering move?<br /> [[User:DwarfWoot|DwarfWoot]] 19:55, 2 December 2010 (UTC)</div>

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