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Badge

2010-06-30T22:49:03Z

Domenc:

:''This article is about badges in the [[main series]] Pokémon games. For the element in the Pokémon Trading Card Game, see [[Pokémon League (TCG)]].''
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[[Image:Cissy badge.jpg|thumb|[[Ash Ketchum]] examines a Badge he won from [[Cissy]]]]
A '''badge''' (Japanese: '''バッジ''' ''badge'') is an item which denotes a [[Pokémon Trainer]] as having defeated a [[Gym Leader]]. Trainers need to collect a certain number of [[gym]] badges in order to qualify for a region's [[Pokémon League]]. Young Trainers usually begin their initial Pokémon journey by traveling from city to city in order to collect them. Badges are small enough to fit easily between one's thumb and index finger and can be pinned to a shirt or kept in a badge case.

In the games, Badges affect a [[Pokémon]]'s behavior. A symbol of competence on the Trainer's part, badges force [[trade]]d Pokémon under a certain [[level]] to obey. Additionally, Trainers cannot have a Pokémon use an [[HM]] move outside battle without the appropriate badge. Also, beginning in [[Generation IV]], the number of badges a Trainer possesses affects the items that various [[Poké Marts]] will sell. The more badges, the more expensive and rare items become available for purchase.

==List of badges==
===Indigo League===
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{{bdg|type=rock|badge=Boulder|jap=グレーバッジ|rm=Gray|ldr=Brock|loc=Pewter City|hm=Flash|stat=Attack|db=It is a simple gray octagon.|notes=[[Lola]], {{ka|Flint}} and [[Forrest]] also give out the Badge in the {{pkmn|anime}}.}}
{{bdg|type=water|badge=Cascade|jap=ブルーバッジ|rm=Blue|ldr=Misty|loc=Cerulean City|hm=Cut|lvl=30|db=It is in the shape of a light blue raindrop.|notes={{ka|Lily}}, {{an|Daisy}} and [[Violet]] also give out the Badge in the anime.}}
{{bdg|type=electric|badge=Thunder|jap=オレンジバッジ|rm=Orange|ldr=Lt. Surge|loc=Vermilion City|hm=Fly|stat=Speed|db=It is in the shape of an eight-pointed gold star with an orange octagon in the center.}}
{{bdg|type=grass|badge=Rainbow|jap=レインボーバッジ|rm=Rainbow|ldr=Erika|loc=Celadon City|hm=Strength|lvl=50|db= It is shaped like a flower, showing grass. Its petals are rainbow colored, hence its name.|notes=Despite being named the "Rainbow badge" three of the colors (light green, light blue and pink) do not correspond to the colors of the actual rainbow.}}
{{bdg|type=poison|badge=Soul|jap=ピンクバッジ|rm=Pink|ldr=Koga|loc=Fuchsia City|hm=Surf|stat=Defense|db=It is in the shape of a fuchsia heart.|notes=[[Janine]] replaces Koga in [[Generation II]] and {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}.}}
{{bdg|type=psychic|badge=Marsh|jap=ゴールドバッジ|rm=Gold|ldr=Sabrina|loc=Saffron City|lvl=70|hm=Rock Smash|hmtt1=*|hmtt2=FireRed and LeafGreen only|db=It is a gold circle with a smaller gold circle inside it.}}
{{bdg|type=fire|badge=Volcano|jap=クリムゾンバッジ|rm=Crimson|ldr=Blaine|loc=Cinnabar Island|stat=Special Attack and Special Defense{{tt|*|Special in Generation I}}|hm=Waterfall|hmtt1=*|hmtt2=FireRed and LeafGreen only|db=It is red and shaped like a flame with a small pink diamond in the center.}}
{{bdg|type=ground|badge=Earth|jap=グリーンバッジ|rm=Green|ldr=Giovanni|loc=Viridian City|lvl=100|hm=Rock Climb|hmtt1=*|hmtt2=HeartGold and SoulSilver only|db=It is shaped like a plant, which grows on earth.|notes={{ga|Blue}} replaces Giovanni in Generation II and HeartGold and SoulSilver. In the anime, [[Jessie]], [[James]], {{MTR}} and [[Agatha]] have all had the authority to hand out the Earth Badge.}}
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===Orange League===
These sets of Badges only appear in the anime. Trainers must receive these Badges from the [[Orange Crew]].
{{bdg/h|d=FF4500|l=FC0|league=Orange|no=4|region=Orange Archipelago}}
{{bdg|type=water|badge=Coral-Eye|jap=サクラバッジ|rm=Sakura|ldr=Cissy|loc=Mikan Island|db=It is shaped like a {{wp|clam}} shell with a small gemstone on it.|notes=Its Japanese name comes from {{wp|cherry blossom}}, referring to its color.}}
{{bdg|type=ground|badge=Sea Ruby|jap=シラナミバッジ|rm=Shiranami|ldr=Danny|loc=Navel Island|db=It is shaped like an {{wp|oyster}} shell with a small gemstone on it.|notes=Its Japanese name comes from the {{wp|maxima clam}}.}}
{{bdg|type=grass|badge=Spike Shell|jap=リンボウバッジ|rm=Rinbō|ldr=Rudy|loc=Trovita Island|db=It is shaped like a Triumphant Star Turban with a small gemstone on it.|notes=Its Japanese name comes from the Triumphant Star Turban (''rinbōgai''), a spiked shell.}}
{{bdg|type=psychic|badge=Jade Star|jap=ルリバッジ|rm=Ruri|ldr=Luana|loc=Kumquat Island|db=It is shaped like a {{wp|conch}} shell with a small gemstone on it.|notes=Its Japanese name comes from {{wp|lapis lazuli}}.}}
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===Johto League===
{{bdg/h|l=1cb0d9|d=00647f|league=Johto|region=Johto}}
{{bdg|type=flying|badge=Zephyr|jap=ウイングバッジ|rm=Wing|ldr=Falkner|loc=Violet City|hm=Flash|hmtt1=*|hmtt2=Gold, Silver and Crystal only|hm2=Rock Smash|hmtt3=*|hmtt4=HeartGold and SoulSilver only|lvl=20{{tt|*|HeartGold and SoulSilver only}}||stat=Attack|db=It is shaped like a pair of wings.|notes=The badge is named for the {{wp|Anemoi#West_wind_(Zephyrus)|Greek god of the west wind}}. It is mentioned briefly in Book 23 of Homer's ''Iliad''.}}
{{bdg|type=bug|badge=Hive|jap=インセクトバッジ|rm=Insect|ldr=Bugsy|loc=Azalea Town|hm=Cut|lvl=30|db=It looks like a ladybug's back if viewed from above.}}
{{bdg|type=normal|badge=Plain|jap=レギュラーバッジ|rm=Regular|ldr=Whitney|loc=Goldenrod City|hm=Strength|stat=Speed|db=It is a plain diamond.|notes=This badge is not obtainable until after the player talks to Whitney a second time.}}
{{bdg|type=ghost|badge=Fog|jap=ファントムバッジ|rm=Phantom|ldr=Morty|loc=Ecruteak City|hm=Surf|lvl=50|db= It is shaped like a wispy ghost.}}
{{bdg|type=fighting|badge=Storm|jap=ショックバッジ|rm=Shock|ldr=Chuck|loc=Cianwood City|hm=Fly|lvl=70{{tt|*|Gold, Silver, and Crystal only}}|db=It is shaped like a fist.}}
{{bdg|type=steel|badge=Mineral|jap=スチールバッジ|rm=Steel|ldr=Jasmine|loc=Olivine City|hm=None|stat=Defense|lvl=70{{tt|*|HeartGold and SoulSilver only}}|db=It is a steel-colored octagon.}}
{{bdg|type=ice|badge=Glacier|jap=アイスバッジ|rm=Ice|ldr=Pryce|loc=Mahogany Town|hm=Whirlpool|stat=Special Attack Special Defense|db=Its a hexagon that is shaped like a snowflake.}}
{{bdg|type=dragon|badge=Rising|jap=ライジングバッジ|rm=Rising|ldr=Clair|loc=Blackthorn City|hm=Waterfall|lvl=100|db=It is shaped like a dragon's face.|notes=This badge is not obtainable until the player has explored the [[Dragon's Den]].}}
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===Hoenn League===
{{bdg/h|l=4fe34f|d=004d00|league=Hoenn|region=Hoenn}}
{{bdg|type=rock|badge=Stone|jap=ストーンバッジ|rm=Stone|ldr=Roxanne|loc=Rustboro City|hm=Cut|stat=Attack|db=It is shaped like a rectangle with two of its corners more emphasized then the others.}}
{{bdg|type=fighting|badge=Knuckle|jap=ナックルバッジ|rm=Knuckle|ldr=Brawly|loc=Dewford Town|hm=Flash|lvl=30|db=It is shaped like a boxing glove.}}
{{bdg|type=electric|badge=Dynamo|jap=ダイナモバッジ|rm=Dynamo|ldr=Wattson|loc=Mauville City|hm=Rock Smash|stat=Speed|db=It is shaped like a coiled wire.}}
{{bdg|type=fire|badge=Heat|jap=ヒートバッジ|rm=Heat|ldr=Flannery|loc=Lavaridge Town|hm=Strength|lvl=50|db=It is shaped like a wisp of fire. It also resembles Flannery's hair.}}
{{bdg|type=normal|badge=Balance|jap=バランスバッジ|rm=Balance|ldr=Norman|loc=Petalburg City|hm=Surf|stat=Defense|db=It is shaped like two circles, counterbalancing each other or a barbell.}}
{{bdg|type=flying|badge=Feather|jap=フェザーバッジ|rm=Feather|ldr=Winona|loc=Fortree City|hm=Fly|lvl=70|db=It is shaped like feathers on a bird's wing.}}
{{bdg|type=psychic|badge=Mind|jap=マインドバッジ|rm=Mind|ldr=Tate and Liza|loc=Mossdeep City|hm=Dive|stat=Special Attack Special Defense|db=It is shaped like a heart, with two sides closing in, possibly in reference to how Tate and Liza are twins.}}
{{bdg|type=water|badge=Rain|jap=レインバッジ|rm=Rain|ldr=Wallace|loc=Sootopolis City|hm=Waterfall|lvl=100|db=It is shaped like three raindrops, arranged like a level-2 {{wp|Sierpinski triangle|Sierpiński gasket}}, possibly based, like the {{zw|Triforce}}, on the {{wp|mon (badge)|mon}} symbol of the {{wp|Japan}}ese {{wp|Hōjō clan}}, which is said to represent the three {{wp|scale (zoology)|scale}}s of a {{wp|Shinto}} {{wp|dragon}}.|notes=[[Juan]] replaces Wallace in {{v2|Emerald}} and the anime.}}
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===Sinnoh League===
When badges are touched in the games, they play a single note, and will make a C major scale when all eight are collected. When a player rubs the stylus across them numerous times to polish them (they gradually tarnish), they will begin to shine. This process can be continued until four sparkles are visible. The notes are also the most clearly defined and accurately tuned when there are four sparkles.

Unlike previous generations, these badges apparently do not affect stats; if they do, no one informs the player of this fact. Furthermore, it is the number of badges that determines which Pokémon obey the Trainer, rather than the badges themselves (this distinction is important owing to the fact that the order of obtaining the Cobble, Fen, and Relic Badges can differ). For every second badge the maximum level of obeying Pokémon increases (2 badges - Level 30; 4 badges - Level 50; 6 badges - Level 70; 8 badges - Level 100). The number of badges collected also affects what the player can purchase in Pokémarts.

{{bdg/h|l=9f9982|d=47443a|league=Sinnoh|region=Sinnoh}}
{{bdg|type=rock|badge=Coal|jap=コールバッジ|rm=Coal|ldr=Roark|loc=Oreburgh City|hm=Rock Smash|db=It is shaped like a boulder and a [[Poké Ball]] combined. It also resembles [[Roark]]'s helmet.}}
{{bdg|type=grass|badge=Forest|jap=フォレストバッジ|rm=Forest|ldr=Gardenia|loc=Eterna City|hm=Cut|lvl=30|db=It is shaped like three trees of a forest, with the trunks whited out.}}
{{bdg|type=fighting|badge=Cobble|jap=コボルバッジ|rm=Cobble|ldr=Maylene|loc=Veilstone City|hm=Fly|lvl=50 (if obtained fourth)|db=It is reminiscent of bricks or a tatami mat.|}}
{{bdg|type=water|badge=Fen|jap=フェンバッジ|rm=Fen|ldr=Crasher Wake|loc=Pastoria City|lvl=50 (if obtained fourth)|hm=Defog|hmtt1=*|hmtt2=Diamond and Pearl only|hm2=Surf|hmtt3=*|hmtt4=Platinum only|db=It is shaped like a lake with gray reeds around it. It also resembles Crasher Wake's Mask.|}}
{{bdg|type=ghost|badge=Relic|jap=レリックバッジ|rm=Relic|ldr=Fantina|loc=Hearthome City|hm=Surf|hmtt1=*|hmtt2=Diamond and Pearl only|hm2=Defog|hmtt3=*|hmtt4=Platinum only|db=It is shaped like a gray circle on its center with three purple circles around it. It also resembles Fantina's hair.|}}
{{bdg|type=steel|badge=Mine|jap=マインバッジ|rm=Mine|ldr=Byron|loc=Canalave City|hm=Strength|lvl=70|db=It is shaped like three stones and three pickaxes combined.}}
{{bdg|type=ice|badge=Icicle|jap=グレイシャバッジ|rm=Glacier|ldr=Candice|loc=Snowpoint City|hm=Rock Climb|db=It is shaped like an iceberg or two icy mountains.}}
{{bdg|type=electric|badge=Beacon|jap=ビーコンバッジ|rm=Beacon|ldr=Volkner|loc=Sunyshore City|hm=Waterfall|lvl=100|db=It is shaped like a lighthouse.}}
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==In the anime==
The {{pkmn|anime}} has a few different rules for badges than in the games. Primarily, badges seem to do nothing beside signify the defeat of a given Gym Leader. A Pokémon may choose not to obey its Trainer even if he or she has gained all eight badges, such as [[Ash's Charizard]].

Gym Leaders are quite lenient about giving out badges in the Anime. Additionally, Trainers do not necessarily have to win a battle with the Gym Leader in order to earn a badge. The Orange Crew, for example, all have entire Gym matches devoted to unconventional battling styles and [[Ash Ketchum]] was awarded several badges because of his kind heart and determination.

Participation in the [[Indigo Plateau Conference]] yields a final Indigo League badge at the closing ceremony. It is larger, however, and square shaped.

[[Pokémon Tech]], a boarding school which educates Pokémon Trainers, is an expensive school for children of wealthy families. Moving up a grade in Pokémon Tech is the equivalent of winning two Gym badges. Upon graduation, students may immediately apply for entry in the Pokémon League.

Trainers can take a three-part test that awards a single badge which allows entry into the Pokémon League, as seen in ''[[EP056|The Ultimate Test]].'' The test is called the Pokémon League Admissions Exam. It is convenient for people whose age, health, or work keeps them from traveling around to collect badges.

[[Image:EP013 Badges.jpg|thumb|right|Badges in EP013 (Composite screenshot)]]

It's also implied in the anime that a Gym Badge serves as a primary ID for a Gym Leader (and probably a secondary ID for a Trainer), as Brock used his Boulder Badge to identify himself in order to clear his name from any accusations of stealing parts from a machine shop in Cerulean City.

So far, Ash Ketchum has only obtained badges that are available in the games, with the notable exception of those he obtained in the Orange Archipelago. Several unknown badges can be seen at the beginning of ''[[EP013|Mystery at the Lighthouse]]'', while many Trainers Ash has met have had badges that differ from those that are obtainable in the games. This suggests that there are gyms in locations which do not appear in the games and therefore more than eight gyms in each region. Trainers with badges not seen in the games include:

===Gary===
[[Gary Oak]] acquired more than the standard eight Kanto League badges, thus leading to confusion as to whether or not there is an infinite number of badges that can be given out in a given region. By ''[[EP063|The Battle of the Badge]]'', he is shown to have at least ten badges, only three of which correspond to known Kanto league badges, suggesting there are at least fifteen gyms in Kanto. This would, therefore, provide one gym for each of the (at the time) fifteen types. Among these may include the [[Fighting Dojo]], a gym shown to be defunct by {{game|Red and Blue|s}}.

===Otoshi===
In addition, before Ash competes in the Indigo League, a Trainer named [[Otoshi]] is shown in the episode ''[[EP073|Bad to the Bone]]''; he owns eight badges, but only shares four in common with Ash; later in the episode another Trainer is seen with eight other completely different badges altogether. In total, Ash, Gary, Otoshi and the other Trainer display 27 different types of badges, so there must be at least this number of gyms in Kanto at the time, assuming they are all from the same region.

On closer inspection, Otoshi's badges each look somewhat similar to Ash's badges and only differ in size and shape. Similarly, what can be identified as a Soul Badge, Thunder Badge, Marsh Badge, and Volcano Badge slide across the screen every time his Marowak knocks out a Pokémon in his flashback. His badges are in this order from upper-left to bottom-right: Thunder, ? (Rainbow), Cascade, Volcano, Marsh, Soul, Boulder, and Earth. This hints that there may be different varieties of the same badge.

Later, during Ash's Johto League challenge, he is given what is referred to in the show as the "{{DL|List of key items in Generation II|Silver Wing}} Badge"; however, this is not an official gym badge and is not recognized in the games as a badge at all, but rather an item used to make {{p|Lugia}} appear in the [[Whirl Islands]].

===Morrison===
At the Hoenn Pokémon League Championship in ''[[AG126|Saved by the Beldum!]]'', [[Morrison]] is shown to have an eighth badge different from Ash's, suggesting that there are at least nine gyms in Hoenn.

===Mismagius===
In {{Ash}}'s dream in ''[[DP043|Malice in Wonderland]]'', Ash has many badges that haven't been on-screen before, as well as some older badges. Considering it was only a dream, it is probable that some of the badges seen don't exist at all.

===Barry===
In ''[[DP101|Barry's Busting Out All Over!]]'', it shows that {{an|Barry}} has three badges. While the Forest Badge and the Mine Badge are no different, Barry has a third badge that is different from the eight Sinnoh badges. In [[DP163]], Barry was revealed to have obtained eight badges already, two more of which are different. This could imply that there are at least eleven Gyms in Sinnoh. The possibility of more Sinnoh Gyms is further supported by something [[Tower Tycoon Palmer]] says to Ash in ''[[DP141|Challenging a Towering Figure!]]''. After the Twinleaf Festival is coming to a close, and Ash and the gang prepares to depart, Palmer asks Ash about the Pokémon League. Ash says that he needs just one last badge. Palmer than suggests (or something to that effect) that Ash choose Sunyshore to be his final badge, as if there were other possible choices. The same unknown red badge that Barry owns is shown at the end of [[DP182]].

===Nando===
In [[DP174]] it is revealed that Nando has acquired seven badges. Nando has two badges that are the same as two of Barry's unknown badges.

===Gallery of unidentified badges===
<gallery perrow=3 widths=150px>
File:Gary_badges.JPG|[[Gary Oak|Gary]]'s ten badges
File:Otoshi_badges.JPG|[[Otoshi]]'s eight badges
File:Other_badges.JPG|An unnamed trainer's eight unidentified badges
File:Morrison_badge.JPG|[[Morrison]]'s eighth badge
File:DreamBadges.png|{{Ash}}'s badges in the dream
File:Barry Sinnoh badges.png|{{an|Barry}}'s eight badges
</gallery>

==In the Pokémon Adventures manga==
In [[Pokémon Adventures]], badges have mystical and mysterious qualities that can somehow increase the power of the Pokémon owned by the Trainer who wields the badges, just as the Boulder Badge increases the Pokémon's Attack stat in the games. In addition, badges that don't allow higher leveled Pokémon to obey, such as the Soul Badge, do indeed allow the wearer to control even legendary Pokémon such as {{p|Articuno}}.

It is not known what sort of material badges are made of, but it has been confirmed that the badges Gym Leaders each own a badge made of different material than the kind given out to normal trainers, as that is how the [[Masked Man]]'s identity was narrowed down to among the 16 known Gym Leaders when [[Ataro]] scraped off a part of his hidden badge with its {{m|Scratch}} attack.

[[Team Rocket]] used seven Kanto Gym badges to power a machine that combined {{p|Articuno}}, {{p|Zapdos}} and {{p|Moltres}} into [[Zapmolcuno|a single beast]]. The machine also had a secret slot for the Earth Badge, which Lance manipulated to further his own goals by turning [[Cerise Island]] into a giant badge energy amplifier to fuel the legendary {{p|Lugia}} with.

Badges are not required to enter the Pokémon League tournament; however, without eight badges corresponding to their home region, a Trainer must battle their way in to qualify for the finals.

==In the Electric Tale of Pikachu manga==
In the [[Electric Tale of Pikachu]], badges work in a way similar to the anime, however, there are some minor differences. All badges have the Pokémon League logo printed on them.

In addition, Pokémon Trainers are organized by class, much like Pokémon Tech "Class D", "Class C" and so forth. Badges increase the the rank of the Trainer who owns them. Ash once believed that he could increase his rank by capturing rare wild Pokémon, however this was not the case.

==Trivia==
* In [[Pokémon Live!]], [[Giovanni]] offers the ''Diamond Badge'' to trainers who defeat him. He gives {{Ash}} the Diamond Badge prior to the battle, believing that Ash will never win. However, Ash defeats Giovanni with {{p|Mewtwo}}'s assistance, proceeding to give the Diamond Badge to [[Misty]] as a belated birthday gift. Pokémon Live! is not in continuity with the {{pkmn|anime}}, and the Diamond Badge is not mentioned elsewhere in the series. However, it is the inspiration for [[DiamondShipping]]'s name.
* With the exception of the Rainbow Badge and Rising Badge, all badges were renamed for audiences outside of Japan before [[Generation III]]. Generation III was the first time none were renamed, and this continued in [[Generation IV]] with the exception of the Icicle Badge, which had been the Glacier Badge in Japan. This was changed due to the fact that the badge of [[Mahogany Town]] is called the Glacier Badge in English, while it is called the Ice Badge in Japan.
* In the [[Pokémon Project Studio Red and Blue]] computer programs, the Soul and Marsh Badges' names are reversed, with the pink heart-shaped badge being the Marsh Badge and the yellow circular badge being the Soul Badge. This appears to be because of an initial error in naming the badges in {{2v2|Red|Blue}}. A soul would be more attuned to {{type|Psychic}} abilities and one finds {{t|Poison|poisonous}} gases in a marsh.
* The Orange League is the only known Pokémon League with fewer than 8 badges.
* With the exception of the Earth Badge, obtaining a region's eighth badge enables the use of {{HM|07|Waterfall}} outside of battle. In Kanto, the Volcano Badge, its seventh badge, enables the use of Waterfall, while the Earth Badge would technically enable the use of {{HM|08|Dive}}, if it could be used outside of battle.
* The Japanese names of the [[Kanto]] badges are all colors, following the color pattern for the town and city names.
*Surprisingly, it is possible to obtain certain badges in a non-linear order. The most notable example of this are the Kanto badges in [[Generation II]] and [[Generation IV|IV]], which can be obtained in virtually any order, although the Earth Badge must be obtained last in [[Generation IV]].
* In {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}} the Earth Badge is the only badge that doesn't allow the use of a HM outside of battle, while in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}} it is the only Kanto badge that does.

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Talk:Badge

2010-06-26T20:58:59Z

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== Badge Names/Spacing ==

For the record, is it "Boulderbadge" or "Boulder Badge"? Also, I figure listing what Badges do both here and in the [[Gym Leader]] page is redundant. I think it is more appropriate here. uhhh... And, how do you make it so that pages can link to individual badges within this page? Like [[ Badge#Boulder Badge ]] Is that possible? --[[user:greengiant|greengiant]]

Is it REALLY necessary to imply that the Japanese word for "badge" is different from the English word? --Ketsuban

To Ket, I think someone may have gone a bit overboard on our translation thing. ^^; And with respect to the #___Badge, yeah, I'll edit that so it's possible. And I believe the name is Boulderbadge, with no space, although this in turn is probably due to the game's character limit. [[User:Evkl|evkl]] 00:33, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Use the <nowiki> ==== </nowiki> as the header title for all badges. And maybe debold the names of the badges? I'm not sure... And yeah, that header will allow [[Badges#Cascade Badge]] and the like. [[User:Evkl|evkl]] 01:08, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

May I ask why you replaced all the japanese text with question marks? or am I just viewing the page wrong? --[[user:greengiant|greengiant]]

It seems that multiple recent edits by people are leaving the Japanese text in pages converted to ???... --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

>Ineteresting. Is everyone doing it, or just certain users? If it's everyone, the last update may have accidentally turned of RichText . . . Or at least that's what happened before on a messageboard where this same problem occured.

- Zeta

== Hoenn/Shin'ō Badges ==

Does anyone know where the Kanto and Johto badges' images came from, or who made them? I think it would look a lot better if we had something like that for the other two regions... I mean, if anyone has some drawing skill and can draw out the Hoenn badges, then digitally color them like the other ones, that'd be a good substitute for that anime screenshot... Same for the Shin'ō ones, if we get their colors ahead of time... Depends on how fast we get through Shin'ō in the anime, though, I'd suppose. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 02:44, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

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From the adapted Chapter Books: [http://www.amazon.com/gp/sitbv3/reader/102-2574885-0064955?ie=UTF8&p=S004&asin=043920092X Read the excerpt], flip a page and notice Coral-Eye Badge. How canonical is that? I don't know, but really it's our only evidence. It's how we figured out it's Cissy instead of Sissy, I think. --[[User:Greengiant|Greengiant]] 18:49, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

== Gymbaliar ==

Should we mention somewhere in the anime section that Jessie ran a gym for one D&P episode, and gave out at least one badge to a trainer? Whether or not its considered offical is questionable, and it was not seen, but it should be mentioned that they DID have badges.[[User:Spongemaster0|Spongemaster0]] 14:16, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

The badge in question, I believe, was 3 of James's bottle caps glued together. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 22:52, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

== Multiple Gyms ==

I've been watching Pokémon Chronicles lately, and something in the episode where Misty takes over as Gym Leader (Cerulean Blues, I think) seems kinda relevant. The Inspectors that are busy closing down various Gyms across Kanto are reported on the news to have closed down several already. If eight badges are a requirement for entering the Indigo League, there must be at least eight still open after those closures, right? That would seem to imply that there were (prior to that episode) several extra Gyms.

Also, in the games the "Fighting Dojo" is supposed to have had Gym status, and recently lost it. Bearing in mind that Sabrina's Gym has a pretty formidable reputation, I doubt its "brand new", in which case I'd espect the Fighting Dojo and Sabrina's Gym to have run simultaneously, at least for a bit. I know the Dojo was never mentioned in the Anime, but maybe one of Gary's badges (or the other trainers') could be from there, or other similar Gyms that were closed down?

--[[User:Aiden Iakona|Aiden Iakona]] 12:37, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
:The anime seems to work pretty clearly under the assumption that there are more than eight gyms in a region. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 17:53, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
::Well, in most major regions anyway. Orange Islands was an exception. That made the opposite clear, that there were only four gyms in the islands. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 17:54, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

== Badge name spacing ==

I see someone reccently changed the badge names to give them consistant spacing. But a pretty quick video search on YouTube shows me that Boulderbadge and so on was correct, and is still kept in FR/LG.--[[User:Porygon|Porygon]] 09:38, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, but it's HEAT BADGE and so on in Emerald, so I think that it was always their intention to have spaces, they just didn't have room in RBYGSC and wanted to keep with tradition in RSFRLG. Emerald they spaced and DP they finally turned off caps lock. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 10:05, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
::Actually, RS did use spaces. And FR/LG came out afterward without the spacing. Maybe it was a character limit thing, I'll look through some official uses of the terms when I can and see if they agree with you. I just thought that was worth noting.--[[User:Porygon|Porygon]] 11:00, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
:::All I can really say is that we'll know for sure for Johto/Kanto badges with GSDS. Seeing as FRLG was a remake of RB anyway, though... I think they were just keeping with tradition. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:11, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:Weighing in, I think other forms of canon have always put a space between the words, which gives some weight to standardizing them as always spaced. I mean, granted, we usually set game canon as the one true canon, but... also, btw, RSE and FRLG weren't necessarily translated by the same people in the company, which could account for the difference. I wouldn't be surprised if the people translating FRLG were looking back at the generation I data for reference far more than the data for the other generation III games, except maybe to make sure the new items shared the same names. Badges aren't new, so why would they think to check? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 18:00, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

==Computers versus badges==
Does anyone else find it odd that badges/ribbons themselves serve as authentication rather than a computerized system (then again, if badges were simply for decoration and kept track of by computer, we couldn't have "badge theft" episodes)? It seems strange that there's a computerized system for transferring Pokémon over large distances but not a system for keeping track of trainer acheivements. Perhaps a note should be made of that.--[[User:Yoshi1001|Yoshi1001]] 22:24, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

At one point, just prior to his entry into the Hoenn League Ash goes through the obligatory 'Badge loss' episode and is told that he can still enter due to the records but states that he wouldn't want to without the badges, that losing them would be a major psychological blow. Now whether thats unique to the Hoenn region or not is another matter... [[User:Ricohard|Ricohard]] 03:35, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

== League ==

Once a trainer gets 8 badges, he can participate in their respective leagues. After the League is over, can they enter the same League again the next year with the same badges or do they have to travel around again?--'''''[[User:Jmath|Jmath]] 11:32, 26 October 2007 (UTC)'''''

== Stat raising? ==

Badges have always been meant to raise the stats of the Trainer's Pokémon. But how does that work? The Pokémon have their base stats raised, and if so by how much? --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 21:05, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:Has anybody found this yet? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|10% Satisfaction Guaranteed!]] 14:50, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
::Thirded.[[User:Captain Skank|Captain Skank]] 16:44, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

==Diamond and Pearl 043 Badges==
Should we add the badges in the case awarded for Ash in his fantasy in "Malice in Wonderland", or because they were in a fantasy we should ignore them? There are a lot of different ones that aren't specific gym badges and I think we should add them or try to figure them out. [[User:Moldy orange]] 23:12, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
:No. They don't have names. Maybe mention that a bunch appeared, but I swear some of those are old badges. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 06:08, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
:Yes there were some old badges, many of which Ash had. But there were of course unidentified ones such as the "Triforce" badge.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}}06:11, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

== Sinnoh Artwork ==

I have a book at home with the artwork of all the Sinnoh badges. Anybody want me to scan them in? [[User:Yinyang1195|'''Yin''']][[Image:Ani250MS.gif]][[User:Yinyang1195|'''Yang''']][[Image:Ani249MS.gif]]
[[User talk:Yinyang1195|'''1195''']][[Image:Ani245MS.gif]] 17:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
:Well, it'd be good if you could make them high-quality pngs, preferably without scan artifacting like the rest lack. If I knew where we got the KOJ ones, I'd see if they had the Sinnoh ones (Hoenn's were actually done by my friend, a very faithful adaptation of the style, I would say). '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 22:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
::Ok, one question: How do you make a transparent background? [[User:Yinyang1195|'''Yin''']][[Image:Ani250MS.gif]][[User:Yinyang1195|'''Yang''']][[Image:Ani249MS.gif]]
[[User talk:Yinyang1195|'''1195''']][[Image:Ani245MS.gif]] 03:28, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Got Photoshop/Gimp? It's pretty straightforward... just... don't fill it in! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 05:10, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
::::I have PhotoShop. What do I do? I'm kinda new to this... [[User:Yinyang1195|'''HAPPY''']][[Image:Ani025MS.gif]][[User:Yinyang1195|'''VALENTINES''']][[Image:Ani370MS.gif]]
[[User talk:Yinyang1195|'''DAY''']][[Image:Ani427MS.gif]] 19:50, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[http://www.go-pokemon.com/op/leagues/] has official Sinnoh badge artwork. --[[User:Greengiant|Greengiant]] 06:00, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

== Mismagius ==

'''Badges that appeared:'''

Kanto: Cascade Badge, Thunder Badge, Soul Badge, Volcano Badge, Earth Badge

All of Johto's

Hoenn: Stone Badge, Knuckle Badge, Balence Badge

Sinnoh: Coal Badge, Forest Badge, Cobble Badge, Fen Badge, Relic Badge, Icicle Badge, Beacon Badge

'''Badges that didn't:(excluding Orange)'''

Kanto: Boulder Badge, Rainbow Badge

None of Johto's

Hoenn: Heat Badge, Feather Badge, Mind Badge, Rain Badge, Dynamo Badge

Sinnoh: Mine Badge

'''Similar in the case but not exact:'''

Marsh Badge

Plain Badge

Also, later when they are about to leave Mismagius, there are badges raining from the sky. Some of these are also different.

Noteworthy, maybe. If someone wants to put this in be my guest but I don't want to do it myself. [[User:Moldy orange|Moldy orange]] 04:35, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

: There's a Bagde that looks like a Rain Badge in between the Knuckle and Hive Badge...--[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|Fire]] 09:31, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

== Gary and Otoshi's Badges ==

Since Kanto and Johto both have the same league, wouldn't that mean that these extra badges aren't necesarily only from Kanto, but can be from Johto as well. It was proven by [[Sakura]], who was going to the Indigo League, that one does not need to get all eight from only one region, but they can get any ratio of eight throughout the two regions. So, couldn't these be from Johto as well, even though Johto didn't exist when they were seen? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:45, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
:Sakura didn't specify which competition she was entering. As far as we know from Ash's journey, the Kanto badges work at the Indigo Plateau and he needed to collect another eight from Johto before he could enter the Silver Conference. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:19, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

== Relic Badge ==

I think it may be a rosary of some sort, especially since the Hearthome Gym is a huge cathedral and the word "{{wp|relic}}" has religious or sacred connotations.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 23:16, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== Gary's badges ==

In the section "Gary" of the article it states "This would, therefore, provide one gym for each of the (at the time) fifteen types" Where does this figure of fifteen come from? There were sixteen Pokemon types in Generation I; Dark was the only type not to have any Pokemon named after it (easy to find a Pokemon of each type: Rattata, Machop, Pidgey, Koffing, Sandshrew, Geodude, Caterpie, Gastly, Magnemite, Charmander, Squirtle, Bulbasaur, Pikachu, Alakazam, Jynx and Dratini for example). If the sentence is referring to only single-types then it would be much less than 15 as there certainly weren't any single-typed Dark, Ice or Steel Pokemon (and maybe more) in Generation I. So I think the sentence is inaccurate. [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 23:05, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
:Gen1 had fifteen types. Gen2 had 17. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 23:08, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
::My bad. Steel is the other one. Magnemite changed type in Generation II, and so wasn't Steel-type in Generation I. [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 23:11, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

== Marsh and Soul and Renaming, oh my! ==
So, Sabrina's badge was originally going to be the Soul Badge, because Psychickers can peer into your soul... and Koga's badge was going to be the Marsh Badge, because Poisonous fumes come from marshes and such. These were accidentally flipped in the final version, and have stuck even in Gen II and the Gen III remakes. Eevee is not Eon, and Abra is not Hocus. But we still mention that before the official release, Eevee was going to be called Eon and Abra Hocus and Kadabra Pocus and such. Why don't we mention this flip-flop then? Especially considering the fact that it was a mistake, rather than a purposeful decision? [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 01:49, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
:We have sources for unused Pokemon names. Do you have any source for the badge naming? Who says that one was supposed to be the other? [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 01:55, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
::Not offhand, but I could probably find some. I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in a discussion with NoA or PUSA at some point. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 02:54, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Please do. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 03:06, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
::::I've always thought this myself. I also wonder if the shapes were switched too, since hearts have more to do with soul than circles, and I guess a double-rimmed circle could vaguely represent some area such as marsh.[[User:Captain Skank|Captain Skank]] 16:44, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::Even if the shapes and names were swapped, the colors definitely weren't. Pink for Fuschia and Yellow for Saffron. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 12:19, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

== Polishing... ==

I don't see that info anywhere... or maybe no one has noticed. You can actually polish your badges in DP (and I think also in Pt) and make them shine. Where should it be put? '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 21:35, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
:I'm surprised it's not in the article; it's a pretty fun new aspect to the badges. Oh wait, YES IT IS. Check under Sinnoh League. It's mentioned there. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 04:49, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

== Dive ==

In the trivia it says that Dive "cannot be used or obtained without trading in Kanto." This implies that it can be USED in Kanto, I wasn't aware of this, but if this is not the case, perhaps it could be better phrased as "cannot be obtained without trading or used in Kanto" Sorry if I'm wrong as this is an observation from memories of the game rather than from concrete knowledge. - [[User:Gastly's Mama|Gastly's Mama]]

== More than eight gyms... ==

This article says, a few times, that the anime characters having new badges implies that there are more than eight badges in the region. Should we rephrase it to include something about it being anime cannon? --[[User:Goukazaru|Nostalgia]] 22:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

== Disorganization ==

Is it just me or does anyone else feel this page is horribly messy and practically illegible? [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 20:45, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
:I think so too... Maybe we could make a table... Something like:

:{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=400px cellspacing="1"
|Name
|Image
|Location
|HM Allowed
|Obeying Level
|Stat Raised
|Leader
|-
|Boulder Badge
|[[image:boulderbadge.png|60px]]
|Pewter City
|Flash
|10
|Attack
|Brock {{tt|Flint|Anime Only}} {{tt|Lola|Anime Only}} {{tt|Forrest|Anime Only}}
|-
|Cascade Badge
|[[image:cascadebadge.png|50px]]
|Cerulean City
|Cut
|30
|None
|Misty {{tt|Daisy|Anime Only}} {{tt|Violet|Anime Only}} {{tt|Lily|Anime Only}}
|}

:Something like that, just... well, prettier... --{{u|Mr. Charlie}} 17:29, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

It's certainly more easy on the eyes. The only problem is that every badge does a combination of HM/Stat/Level, so the listing would have to be adjusted to fit. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 18:05, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
::The idea is to make a single table to include every badge, or at least on table per region. That way al the information would be organized in he same place. I modified the one above to include the Cascade Badge and added a new column to the obeying level for traded Pokémon. I would do it myself, but I suck at making tables...-- {{u|Mr. Charlie}} 20:21, 23 March 2009
:::I've tried to make a table, tell me what you think. I've put it in a spoiler because it's kinda big... It still needs links and stuff and I've only made for the Kanto League Badges, but the basic idea is there.
{|class="expandable"
|-
!align="left"|Here it is.
|-
|
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; width=700px cellspacing="1"; height=500px
|align=center ; width=100px cellspacing="1" | '''Name'''
|align=center ; width=100px cellspacing="1" | '''Image'''
|align=center ; width=100px cellspacing="1" | '''Location '''
|align=center ; width=100px cellspacing="1" | '''HM Allowed'''
|align=center ; width=100px cellspacing="1" | '''Obeying Level'''
|align=center ; width=100px cellspacing="1" | '''Stat Raised'''
|align=center ; width=100px cellspacing="1" | '''Leader'''
|-
|align=center | Boulder Badge
|align=center | [[image:boulderbadge.png|60px]]
|align=center | Pewter City
|align=center | Flash
|align=center | 10
|align=center | Attack
|align=center | Brock {{tt|Flint|Anime Only}} {{tt|Lola|Anime Only}} {{tt|Forrest|Anime Only}}
|-
|align=center | Cascade Badge
|align=center | [[image:cascadebadge.png|40px]]
|align=center | Cerulean City
|align=center | Cut
|align=center | 30
|align=center | None
|align=center | Misty {{tt|Daisy|Anime Only}} {{tt|Violet|Anime Only}} {{tt|Lily|Anime Only}}
|-
|align=center | Thunder Badge
|align=center | [[image:thunderbadge.png|60px]]
|align=center | Vermilion City
|align=center | Fly
|align=center | <nowiki>--</nowiki>
|align=center | Speed
|align=center | Lt. Surge
|-
|align=center | Rainbow Badge
|align=center | [[image:rainbowbadge.png|60px]]
|align=center | Celadon City
|align=center | Strenght
|align=center | 50
|align=center | None
|align=center | Erika
|-
|align=center | Soul Badge
|align=center | [[image:soulbadge.png|60px]]
|align=center | Fuschia City
|align=center | Surf
|align=center | <nowiki>--</nowiki>
|align=center | Defense
|align=center | {{tt|Koga|Generation I and III}} {{tt|Janine|Generation II}}
|-
|align=center | Marsh Badge
|align=center | [[image:marshbadge.png|60px]]
|align=center | Saffron City
|align=center | {{tt|Rock Smash|Generation III}}
|align=center | 70
|align=center | None
|align=center | Sabrina
|-
|align=center | Volcano Badge
|align=center | [[image:volcanobadge.png|60px]]
|align=center | Cinnabar City
|align=center | {{tt|Waterfall|Generation III}}
|align=center | <nowiki>--</nowiki>
|align=center | Special
|align=center | Blaine
|-
|align=center | Earth Badge
|align=center | [[image:earthbadge.png|40px]]
|align=center | Saffron City
|align=center | None
|align=center | 100
|align=center | None
|align=center | {{tt|Giovanni|Generation I and III}} {{tt|Blue|Generation II}} {{tt|Jessie, James and Meowth|Anime Only}} {{tt|Agatha|Anime Only}}
|}
|}

[[User:Mr. Charlie|Mr. ]][[User talk:Mr. Charlie|Charlie]] 04:28, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
:While I commend your efforts, condensing an entire article into a table is not the best way to reorganize a page. I'll look into this.... — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 04:38, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

::Quite good but only if we can put in the sprites of Gymleaders instead of just names. --'''[[User:Prongs|Prongs]] '''([[User Talk:Prongs|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Prongs|Contributions]])''' 04:36, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

:::I shall try making one with -moz-border-radius.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 19:10, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

:::: See [[User:Force Fire/Sandbox|mine.]]--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]•[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 09:47, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

== Sprites ==

Hey! I've got an inquiry. I've got all the sprites of all the current known badges, and to make my collection complete, I was wondering if some of Bulbapedia's top sprites could try their hand at spriting all the unknown badges on this page? Possible? [[User:QTR|QTR]] 18:23, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

==Raised stat==
For the Kanto badges, what does it mean "raised stat"? [[User:Pandamonia|Pandamonia]] 11:05, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
:A specific [[stat]] of each and every Pokémon you own is raised by a certain degree upon obtaining the relevant badge. And new comments to bottom please. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 11:11, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

== Mailing In Badges ==

Don't you think that there should be a website where fans could e-mail in their ideas for leaders, gyms & badges. You know, and the best ones could get picked for the anime. --[[User:Eevoi|Eevoi]] 18:57, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

:Problem is, with the exception of the ones in the [[Orange Islands]], every single gym and badge that's been shown in the anime is one featured in the handheld video games. If such an idea were to be implemented, it would be for the video games, not for the anime. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:00, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::Hahahaha, right, sure, funny. Good one. Game Freak's known to be incredibly secretive with their ideas, and fans tend to come up with ''really, really dumb'' ideas. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:48, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

== Badges as mind-control ==

I seem to recall at least one instance in the Special manga where Pikachu or another Pokemon was at least subtly influenced by the badges. I believe the gym leaders also described them as having the power to control Pokemon, possibly around the Silph Co. battle arc... Does anyone know of a specific instance of this being stated? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 03:04, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
: The way I recall it (Though mind you it's been a while isnce I've read the RBG arc), the badges alone don't control Pokémon in Special. But when put in the Badge Energy Amplifier, that's when it is able to control Pokémon within a specific radius.
:: Yes, that makes more sense. I vaguely recall an instance of Pikachu being manipulated by Red or another person, but it may not have been badge-related or even in the manga. I did find several scans that confirm that badges do in fact manipulate Pokemon to a degree, but whether this is generally or only in conjunction with each other due the BEA is unclear. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 10:54, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

== Badge Cases ==

Are there any plans to insert images of the badge cases from Sinnoh, Johto and Kanto? --[[User:Ryuutakeshi|Ryuutakeshi]] 04:29, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

== Examination of the dream badge case ==

I just examined the badge case from Ash's dreams and I found that he has 8 Kanto badges (Boulder Badge, Cascade Badge, Thunder Badge, Soul Badge, Marsh Badge, 2 volcano Badges, and an Earth Badge) All 8 Johto Badges, 3 Hoenn badges (Stone Badge, Knuckle Badge, and Balance badge) 7 Sinnoh badges (Coal Badge, Forest Badge, Cobble Badge, Fen Badge, Relic Badge, Icicle Badge, and Beacon Badge) as well as 15 unknown badges.--[[User:Pkmn|Pkmn]] 03:36, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
:Already done [[Talk:Badge#Mismagius|here]] ^look up there^ ;) ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:51, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

== Suggestion; ==

"Highest level of
obeying Pokémon: N/A" Instead of N/A, wouldn't it make more sense to use the same level as the previous one? It's not like the privilege of the obeying Pokemon is taken away.. It doesn't say it ''gives'' that level, it just says that it's the highest level of obeying Pokemon.. Consider it? >.> --[[User:JasonTongRulz|♪ Jason Tong ♪]] 21:59, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
:For future reference, in case anyone brings this point up again, this suggestion doesn't work on one major principle: the obedience of the traded pokémon is directly controlled by the badged a player has. Meaning, if I skipped Sabrina (whose badge grants obedience to pokémon up to level 70) leaving me with only obedience at level 50 (Rainbow Badge), then if I went to fight Blaine (whose order is after Sabrina), my traded pokémon would still stop obeying me once it reached level 51 despite having a superior badge from a trainer stronger than Sabrina. Without the Marsh badge, they will still disobey. These are the abilities granted by a gym badge itself, not simply something that happens with a certain amount of gyms defeated. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 20:01, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

== Two badges not mentioned ==

There are two known badges not mentioned, though they aren't gym badges they still connect to the Pokemon League in the anime. One badge is the Exam badge that works like all 8 would normally. It was shown in an episode and looks like a red boulder badge with a giant P in the middle. The second badge missing is the one giving to Ash when the Pokemon League ended after his loss to Richie.--[[User:Lycos Ex Mortis|Lycos Ex Mortis]] 05:06, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

==League Champion Badge==
In HGSS, you get a special badge after beating the elite four; it fills that circle in your case. There's another one for the Kanto league. How come none of these are mentioned? Due they even have names? I would put it in myself, but I haven't been able to find any info. --[[User:TrainerRoland|TrainerRoland]] 18:47, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
:New comments go to the bottom of the page, thanks. See the (+) button at the top of the page? It creates new sections for you. I can't answer your question though. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:28, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

== Gary and other ideas ==

Part of the article I have ideas about improving:
Gary Oak acquired more than the standard eight Kanto League badges, thus leading to confusion as to whether or not there is an infinite number of badges that can be given out in a given region. By The Battle of the Badge, he is shown to have at least ten badges, only 3 of which correspond to known Kanto league badges, suggesting there are at least fifteen gyms in Kanto. This would, therefore, provide one gym for each of the (at the time) fifteen types. Among these may include the Fighting Dojo, a gym shown to be defunct by Pokémon Red and Blue.

When I first saw the anime episode which is described in this section of the article ( I saw the episode long before I ever read this article) I immediatly thought that Gary recived the badges from other regions (possibly regions that are still unknown as of today) and that the Pokemon League (at least in Kanto) did not care which badges you have as long as you have 8. Also on the subject of more than 8 gym badges in Kanto, there were examples of cites in anime (in Kanto) which were not in the games (such as the city in which Ash got his Muk, if I not mistaken)leading a viewer to believe that there could be many more cities (and gym badges) in the region. I would be glad to hear input from others on these ideas (and people to confirm I am making correct episode references)and if anybody thinks any of these ideas deserve to go in the article.[[User:Tough_guy22|Tough_guy22]] 19:25, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
:You mean everything except the first few paragraphs in the {{DL|Badge|In the anime}} section? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 00:30, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

::Please clairify, im not quite sure what your question is. [[User:Tough_guy22|Tough_guy22]] 19:25, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Nevermind, I misread your post. It has been implied in the anime that the badges only work in one region (as Ash must collect 8 new badges in each region, although this didn't happen until a bit after that episode), and so others must have come from gyms and cities not in the games. Maybe it should be summarised in a paragraph in the section before it turns into a big list with no introduction? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
::::I think the reason I thought that Gary's badges were from a different region was largly because of the fact that the episode took place in Viridan city, which as we know is connected to the walking route that goes to and from Johto. Would you agree with me that the fact that there are "anime only" cities should be mentioned in the article as a possible reason for there being more that 8 Kanto badges?? ([[User:Tough guy22|Tough guy22]] 02:34, 27 May 2010 (UTC))
:::::Yes, it probably should. What should also be mentioned it that there are badges in the anime that aren't in the games (and I mean it should be mentioned outside the character subsections), and that there is thought to be a gym for each type in every region, due to the number of different badges. At the moment it just talks about the badges and then launches into sections for each character. I feel that it looks a little out of place, and the character sections need an introduction of sorts to explain them. That introduction would be the perfect place for this stuff. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:48, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
:The character Gary is protrayed to be likely would have fought the harder gyms if there were in fact 15 gyms in Kanto. Whereas Ash simiply fought the gyms in the cities he went to. It is possible that with Gary being related to Professor Oak he knew more about where stuff is and more cities (as Professor Oak supposedly traveled all over when he was young). Are you good enough that you could change the article, or do you know somebody who is kinda "in charge" of this article??? ([[User:Tough guy22|Tough guy22]] 02:56, 27 May 2010 (UTC))
::As far as I know there isn't anyone "in charge" of this article. I've got something I need to do just now, so it'll be a bit more than an hour until I can get to it. You can try editing it if you like. I'm sure once an edit is made to the article everyone watching the recent changes will come along and help. Or you could post it here and get opinions. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:30, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Okay, i've rearranged the section and extended a paragraph to include some of that stuff. I haven't included that Gary may have deliberately chosen harder gyms, or known where the harder gyms were from Professor Oak, as that falls under the speculation category and speculation is (generally) not allowed. I've put in what I think works without becoming speculation and left the rest out. Modify it if you don't like it. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:07, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

== 28 different gyms ==

How did you count 28? Ash's 8 + Gary's(10-3) + Otoshi's(8-4) + unknown trainer's 8 is 27 ,guys.