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Talk:Serene Grace (Ability)

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==Stacking Serene Grace==
If a pokemon held a king's rock, razor claw or other similar item would the rate of flinch/other effect be doubled as well? The article doesn't clarify this.--[[User:Dragonite42|Dragonite42]] 08:17, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
:I think this goes with what Dragonite42 said, can you stack Serene Grace, that is, further increase chances of added effects if one Pokémon with Serene Grace getting an increase if attacking another Pokémon with Serene Grace?
:: A good example is Togekiss' Air Slash. With Serene Grace, it's 60%. However, Air Slash stacked with King's Rock alone is 51%, according to the Flinch Moves article. The question that this article (and that article) should clear up is, for example, whether Serene Grace kicks in BEFORE or AFTER King's Rock/Razor Claw/etc. If it kicks in afterwards, then the result is 102% for Air Slash – autoflinch. If Serene Grace kicks in before, then it is only 72%, again, using the formula from the Flinch Moves article. This is a big difference, and should be clarified. I'm using Togekiss' Air Slash as an example since it's one of the more popular Serene-Grace usages, but this is something that should be clarified for all users of Serene Grace. Do item effects kick in before or after abilities --[[User:Kumori_Satosuke|Satosuke]] 15:46, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
::: From Pikiwyn answering on my userspace: "Moves that already have a flinch chance gain an additional chance to flinch when the user holds King's Rock or Razor Claw. The total flinch chance for a move with inherent flinch chance p when the user holds King's Rock or Razor Claw is given by p + (1 - p) * 0.1. For example, a Serene Grace Pokemon using Air Slash while holding King's Rock has a 0.6 + (1 - 0.6) * 0.1 = 64% chance to flinch. I got that from Smogon." This should be added to the page. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 01:50, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

"Of all the Pokémon that can have Serene Grace as one of their two abilities, only Dunsparce cannot have Hustle or Natural Cure as its other ability, instead having Run Away."
Since {{p|Shikijika}} and {{p|Mebukijika}} have {{a|Chlorophyll}} and {{a|Herbivorous}}, should this trivia be removed? --[[User:Pyritie|Pyritie]] 13:16, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:Done.--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|でんのう]] ☢ [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|'''Z'''えんし]] 13:31, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== Question ==

What about an attack that has more than 50% chance of having an additional effect (like charge beam)? Does it just make it certain? [[User:Zappyton|Zappyton]] 16:45, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
:Obviously; Charge Beam Jirachi is quite popular moveset.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 16:49, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

== Secret Power==

I'm removing Secret Power from the list of affected moves. "Any Pokemon with Serene Grace as an ability will see the secondary effect chances of their moves doubled, with the exception of Secret Power." Taken from Smogon's description with proof in their Research thread.--[[User:V4Victini|V4Victini]] ([[User talk:V4Victini|talk]]) 23:15, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
:For those that don't find that to be a reliable source, I can personally verify its accuracy as I was the one who tested this followed by xfr finding the evidence in the game's code (displayed in [http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4341691&postcount=2896 this post]) {{unsigned|V4Victini}}

==Question==
Does it work with nature power? {{unsigned|Auragirl}}
:Nature Power changes into different moves based on terrain. If it changes into a move that Serene Grace affects, then yes. If it doesn't, then no. Metronome, Assist, etc. all work this way. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:29, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

== Stench ==

"''Serene Grace boosts the 10% flinch chance due to King's Rock or Razor Fang to 20%.''"

What about Stench? - Pokémon [[User:Pokémon|Questions?]] -- 20:40, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

:Stench is an ability, meaning that no Pokémon can have both Stench and Serene Grace. [[User:Nepse|Nepse]] ([[User talk:Nepse|talk]]) 20:45, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
::Of course... Now I wonder, if the rainbow resulting of the combo between Fire Pledge and Water Pledge also doubles King's Rock, Razor Fang and yet Stench. - Pokémon [[User:Pokémon|Questions?]] -- 13:14, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

== Question ==

In a Double or Triple Battle, would this ability apply to allies as well? Or does it only apply to the user? [[Special:Contributions/Mikoro|the great]] [[User:Mikoro|MIKORO]] ([[User talk:Mikoro|talk to me]]) 13:49, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

== Poison Jab ==

Poison Jab is listed as a move that cannot be learned by any Pokémon with Serene Grace, yet Dunsparce can learn it. Is this a mistake?
[[User:Ellie-is|Ellie-is]] ([[User talk:Ellie-is|talk]]) 12:34, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
:I think it was an error, I've moved it to the proper table.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 13:30, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

== King's Rock and Razor Claw ==

"Serene Grace boosts the 10% flinch chance due to King's Rock or Razor Fang to 20%" Was this tested as of Gen 6? Pokemon Database and the Japanese Pokemon Wiki say it doesn't.
--[[User:Pdpd999|Pdpd999]] ([[User talk:Pdpd999|talk]]) 09:44, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
:That would be interesting to know for certain. The way I understand it (and Showdown suggests that as well), however, King's Rock and Razor Fang might technically add an additional effect to moves (which may or may not subsequently be boosted by Serene Grace, depending on which of the two is done first). I would be careful with removing it without testing. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 10:13, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

== Serene Grace and King's Rock ==

> Serene Grace boosts the 10% flinch chance due to King's Rock or Razor Fang to 20%. 
Are you guys sure that Serene Grace does boost the chance of causing flinch via King's Rock? 
'''[https://wikiwiki.jp/boudai/%E3%83%9D%E3%82%B1%E3%83%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%81%AE%E7%89%B9%E6%80%A7%E4%B8%80%E8%A6%A7/%E3%81%A6%E3%82%93%E3%81%AE%E3%82%81%E3%81%90%E3%81%BF](A Japanese wiki explicitly states the opposite)'''. 
"おうじゃのしるし」などによる怯みの確率は変動しない。" [[User:Lunos|Lunos]] ([[User talk:Lunos|talk]]) 18:19, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
:Did you see that, according to this page, it actually changed? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 14:37, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

== Fickle Beam ==

Is Fickle Beam's 30% chance of boosted power affected? [[User:MonkeyBusiness|MonkeyBusiness]] ([[User talk:MonkeyBusiness|talk]]) 22:20, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

== Matcha Gotcha ==

Shouldn't Matcha Gotcha's 20% chance of Burn be affected also ? [[User:DoCa|DoCa]] ([[User talk:DoCa|talk]]) 02:20, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Rabsca (Pokémon)

2023-04-16T19:35:05Z

DoCa: Created page with "== Grub picture == Apparently we can get a pretty good view at the grub inside the psychic ball by clipping the camera just right. Should we add that to the page, similar to..."

== Grub picture ==

Apparently we can get a pretty good view at the grub inside the psychic ball by clipping the camera just right. Should we add that to the page, similar to Applin or Burmie's "naked" screenshots/concept art ? [https://cohost.org/Rooreelooo/post/933196-what-are-we-feeling Here's a good screengrab example.]
[[User:DoCa]] - 19:34, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Template talk:NPC

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==See also==
Can it be made so it hides the "see also" on pages like [[Gym guide]] so it doesn't look so odd? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 02:52, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

== Name change ==

Any possible way this can be altered to "template:NPCs" so that "template:NPC" can link to [[Non-player character]]? Y/N? [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 14:58, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

== Kalos ==

I think it's about time Kalos NPCs be added to the template; We're starting to gather quite a bunch of new NPCs every month. - [[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]] 23:28, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
:I did a test with the [[User:Reshi643/Template:Kalos NPCs|Kalos NPCs]] on my [[User:Reshi643/Template:NPC|user page]]. — [[User:Reshi643|Reshi]][[User talk:Reshi643|643]] 15:30, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

== Changing Link (Edit Request) ==

Since this template is protected, I would like to request if a staff member could change the link from the "Version" redirect to the "Core series" article? --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:58, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
:Done. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:37, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

== Can someone change "Core series" to "core series"? ==

I know this is minor, but... [[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] ([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]]) 01:41, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
:A staff member protected this template so you have to wait until they edit it as minor. --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 01:57, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
::That's why I'm asking for someone to change it. [[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] ([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]]) 02:00, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
:::So is that a request Pikachu Bros.? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 02:01, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

== Magikarp salesman ==

This template is on his page but he's not listed. He should be in Kanto and Unova. --[[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[Special:Contributions/Flicky|1991]] 13:30, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
:Done. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:18, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

== Week Siblings in the Johto section? ==

I notice the Week Siblings arent listed in the Johto section. [[User:Smear-Gel|Smear-Gel]] ([[User talk:Smear-Gel|talk]]) 00:24, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
:Done. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:18, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
::Nice. I'll try to keep an eye out for similar issues. [[User:Smear-Gel|Smear-Gel]] ([[User talk:Smear-Gel|talk]]) 05:23, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
:Okay, I see some more missing. Stats Judge in the Johto section. Crasher Wake needs to be in Johto (Route 47) and Unova (Route 18 BW2), and if PWT opponents are present, Contest participants should be in Hoenn and Sinnoh and Pokeathlon opponents should be in Johto.--[[User:Smear-Gel|Smear-Gel]] ([[User talk:Smear-Gel|talk]]) 11:37, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
::Are none of these going to be added? Also, Bill in the Johto section, as he is seen in Ecruteak and then spends the main game of HGSS in Goldenrod City [[User:Smear-Gel|Smear-Gel]] ([[User talk:Smear-Gel|talk]]) 20:12, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

==Sevii Islands Section==
Also, sorry for the quick new comment, but did some exploring and realise there should be a Sevii Island section for [[Gideon]], [[Celio]], the Rocket Executives, [[Lostelle]] and her father. After I finis playing FRLG I'll come here with any more I might find. I'd love to be able to just do this myself but it's understandably locked and all.[[User:Smear-Gel|Smear-Gel]] ([[User talk:Smear-Gel|talk]]) 21:07, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
:The Sevii Islands are part of Kanto, so all the Sevii NPCs are on the Kanto template. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:00, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
::The rest of the site (and everywhere. really) seems to treat them as separate regions, but I suppose I get it. Not really enough for it's own section either way. [[User:Smear-Gel|Smear-Gel]] ([[User talk:Smear-Gel|talk]]) 03:03, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

== Rad Rickshaw ==

Other bike store owners are in this template, like Rydel, so can someone add Rad Rickshaw to the template? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:00, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
:I just realized he was already there. Apparently I'm blind. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/Sumwun|contribs]]) 17:37, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

== Mr. Backlot ==

He needs to be added to the template (Sinnoh section) but only admins can edit it. There's no reason for him not to be there, much more minor characters are listed, so I'm assuming this is just an old oversight. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 17:11, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
:Just added him, thanks! [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:32, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

== Danny ==

Please add [[Danny (Jubilife TV)]] to the Sinnoh part of the template. If we want to stay on the safe side, we may refer to him as the "Jubilife TV Producer" here. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 15:50, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

== Wrong Link ==

Little mistake i just noticed : in the Paldea section the link to Team Star sends you to the team star template rather than the team star page.
--[[User:DoCa|DoCa]] ([[User talk:DoCa|talk]]) 02:58, 08 December 2022 (UTC)

User talk:Taromon777/Multiple entity Pokémon

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== Help ==

Can I contribute? --[[User:Pringles|'''P'''r]][[User talk:Pringles|'''i'''ngles]] 22:46, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

== Probopass ==

I was wondering if Probopass counted, as Mini Noses can detach and become Nosepass. --[[User:Pringles|'''P'''r]][[User talk:Pringles|'''i'''ngles]] 00:38, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

== {{p|Wynaut}} and {{p|Wobbuffet}} ==

How are they multiple entity Pokémon? [[Special:Contributions/Enervation|~]][[User:Enervation|Enervation]] 23:25, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
:Looks like they're counting Pokémon with multiple heads and such. Wynaut and Wobbuffet both have eyes on their tails. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 23:27, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

== Nincada ==

{{p|Nincada}} is the fusion of two not yet fully formed Pokémon: {{p|Ninjask}} and {{p|Shedinja}}. So, is Nincada a multiple entity Pokémon? [[Special:Contributions/Enervation|~]][[User:Enervation|Enervation]] 16:25, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

:I don't think so. Where does it say that? I thought they were just related. [[User:Pringles|''プリングルズ/'']][[User talk:Pringles|品客薯片/ప్రింగిల్స్]] 17:48, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

::I think it's the same case as Probopass. It can (upon evolution) turn its shell into a Shedinja, but at that point, it won't be part of Nincada any more. [[Special:Contributions/Enervation|~]][[User:Enervation|Enervation]] 18:59, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

:::I guess that makes sense. [[User:Pringles|''プリングルズ/'']][[User talk:Pringles|品客薯片/ప్రింగిల్స్]] 02:31, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

== New Pokémon ==

There's been a few new additions that could be added to this list, I'm thinking {{p|Falinks}}, {{p|Wishiwashi}}, and maybe {{p|Dragapult}} because of the Dreepy "missiles". Should I edit this page myself or would the original author rather do it themself ?