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Talk:Zygarde (Pokémon)

2014-01-08T11:43:09Z

DisgruntledGoat: /* Move levels? */ new section

==Legendary?==
Isn't this a Legendary Pokémon? If so, why isn't it listed as such? --[[User:WyndFox|Wynd]] [[User talk:WyndFox|Fox]] 05:57, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
:Two possible reasons: either someone simply overlooked it or the staff is waiting for official confirmation of its legendary status before adding it. (Though it seems obvious that it's the Rayquaza/Giratina/Kyurem of this generation, there's always still the infinitesimal chance that Nintendo could be throwing us for a loop somehow.) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:03, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
::It's just been overlooked. It's a Legendary. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 06:08, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

== Dex Trivia? ==

Is it notable that it's last both numerically in the National Dex and alphabetically? --[[User:WyndFox|Wynd]] [[User talk:WyndFox|Fox]] 19:39, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
:I don't have an issue with it. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 19:54, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Unless they make a "Generation VII" or Expansion Pack (like in The Sims) where the grass starter or one of the early Pokémon has a name like "Zyzkrieg". Then it would not be anymore. (but i think the next game should be the Gen. III Remake in 2014, and then "Pokemon Z" in 2015, and the generation VII if it can exist properly, would be in 2016. Propably introduce hybrid Pokémon or Poké-humans or a subplot with aliens or time travel or somesuch.) --[[User:Kaiko Mikkusu|Kaiko Mikkusu]] ([[User talk:Kaiko Mikkusu|talk]]) 19:30, 14 December 2013 (UTC) Kaiko Mikkusu.

Maybe you should keep the crazy fan ideas in the forums. I find those "Poké-humans" very unlikely to made by Nintendo. But we'll never know. Until that happens, we should keep that idea off the encyclopedia. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 22:29, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

== Image origin ==

Where did this image come from, why does it not look like the usual Ken Sugimori art style, why doesn't it look like the other, front forward facing Zygarde pic I keep seeing next to Xerneas and Yveltal? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 08:46, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
:It's not the official artwork, only a placeholder that is used for now (at least it seems so to me). It's the Global Link artwork as stated on the file's page. [[User: Ariano|Արիանո]] 08:53, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
::And the image you're talking is just fanart. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 09:23, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

== Physical appearance ==

Given its underground habits, its partial insect-like appearance and the fact it sports tail-end cerci and six tiny limbs close to its head; I'd say Zygarde's design might've been inspired by a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beetle#Larva beetle larvae/grub], a [http://bugguide.net/images/raw/NKRKEK0KPKZK6KXKAKMKZSWQHS6QB0UQRSMKPK6QT0ZKB09QVKIKBKXKDKVQRS8KNK0KEKHKWK6Q2K.jpg Ground Beetle larva] to be precise, given its shape. Would it be alright to add that to the origin section? --[[User:Jomarori|Jomarori]] ([[User talk:Jomarori|talk]]) 15:00, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
: I don't see it as a larva, its more or less a serpent. Although with the mention of Zygote likely having some basis for its name, I am kind of thinking sperm cell. Not saying it looks like a sperm cell, at least not a human sperm cell. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 15:18, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
:: Perhaps it also takes inspiration from the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuchinoko tsuchinoko], much like Dunsparce? It's notable for being a rather wide serpent, as well as having a notable straightforward "wiggle" rather than slithering from side to side. Also, the tsuchinoko's ability to swallow its own tail merges well with the possible basis on Jörmungandr, which could grasp its own tail even wrapped around the earth. --[[User:Eskay64|Eskay64]] ([[User talk:Eskay64|talk]]) 04:40, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

== Zygarde Etymology ==

Just looking at the naming trivia, I can't imagine that Garde is actually tied to the origins of its name. It's very serpent-like and clearly based on Norse mythology, so perhaps Zygote and Midgard - specifically the Midgard Serpent.

== Position in Trio ==

Zygarde is in a Legendary trio with Xerneas an Yveltal, so it's "element" should fit with Creation and Destruction. Considering it's Pokédex entry, I think it's safe to say Xerneas = Creation, Yveltal = Destruction, and Zygarde = PRESERVATION. {{unsigned|Conansboy}}
:Which means that the trio is possibly based upon Hindu mythology.--[[User:Teamg9|Teamg9]] ([[User talk:Teamg9|talk]]) 12:25, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

== Catch rate ==

I doubt that Zygarde's catch rate is really 0. Is this a filler till that info is found, or an error?
[[User:Reywas360|Reywas360]] ([[User talk:Reywas360|talk]]) 13:17, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
:It's a filler.--[[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 13:43, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

== Yggdrasil Trio ==

I'm finally starting to thing this, alongside Xerneas and Yveltal were based on Norse Mythology beasts in the Tree of Yggdrasil. They all represent Life, Death and Order as a whole. So should they be called the Yggdrasil Trio?--[[User:Duo2nd|Duo2nd]] ([[User talk:Duo2nd|talk]]) 02:41, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
:Its not really verified they are a trio. At least not yet anyways. As for the Norse basis, its possible they are not based on norse mythology at all, but Hindu mythology or one or more mythologies. As of now, the most popular name for them seems to be Aura Trio if they are a trio. There is a thread about their name on the forum if you're interested. The Thread kind of died but if you have anything to say, there would be the place to say it. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 03:56, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
::They obviously are a trio. It could not be any more obvious if ot tried. And we have no clue what they are supposed to be based of other than the axes, so it could be either. Or both. As for the name, I guess we'll see how it goes.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 23:45, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

== Just wanted to throw it out there ==

Bulbasaur + Zygarde = Bulbagarde

Trivia???{{tt|*|I guess probably not, but I just wanted to throw that out there :D}}

-[[User:KyuremTrainer|KyuremTrainer]] ([[User talk:KyuremTrainer|talk]]) 15:05, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
:I'm going to have to say no on that. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 19:16, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

== Typing oddity ==

Isn't it rather peculiar how Zygarde, the "Order Pokémon", has a defensive type disadvantage against Fairy and an offensive one against Flying, which are the types of Xerneas and Yveltal, respectively?

--[[User:TheAsianIsGamin|TheAsianIsGamin]] ([[User talk:TheAsianIsGamin|talk]]) 07:25, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
:I wouldn't consider that notable--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 23:33, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
::Well, if they are indeed a trio, isn't it somewhat notable that one of them (The "Order Pokémon", might I add) is weak to the others? --[[User:TheAsianIsGamin|TheAsianIsGamin]] ([[User talk:TheAsianIsGamin|talk]]) 04:36, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
:::Defensive and offensive disadvantages are completely different things. I don't think it's as clearly intentional (and thus notable) as, for example, all of the legendary golems' weakness to Fighting. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:24, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
::::I think that it most likely was intentional. Even though the fact that it is weak to Xerneas is probably not as notable, Xerneas and Yveltal are each immune to one of its types, and I think that that should be noted. (The fact that it is weak to Xerneas isn't as notable because it isn't also weak to Yveltal.) This is just my opinion, though! ^^ [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 07:36, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

== Move levels? ==

How do we know all the levels Zygarde knows its moves? You can't catch it below level 70...

Talk:Bulbapedia

2013-09-19T10:50:43Z

DisgruntledGoat: /* Relations with other sites */

The creator section of the infobox says that Archaic created the Pedia. The article says Zhen. Which one should go in the infobox? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 04:34, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

== Relations with other sites ==

Can Project Pokemon/The PKM Database go here? See [[n:User_talk:Fenzo666|here]] for some of it. Other bits are in the Bulbanews Admin forum, I think. I can't check there to make sure. It may have been in the dev forum. IDK.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 18:24, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
:Shouldn't it also be mentioned that Bulbapedia is owned by HavaMedia? Other pages like Marriland and Psypokes mention their respective corporate owners. [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] ([[User talk:DisgruntledGoat|talk]]) 10:50, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

== First article ==

Does anyone know it?--[[User:Si6x12|'''Si6''']][[User Talk:Si6x12|'''x12''']] 00:14, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
:Main Page.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 19:26, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

== First Wiki ==
The article currently says that several other Pokémon wikis predate Bulbapedia, however it does not reference this statement, nor make an example of any specific wiki. Is this subtle vandalism which sneaked in, or does someone have a source? {{unsigned|Archaic}}

== Will Bulbapedia evolve? ==

I was just wondering, because it sounds kind of cool.

--[[User:Infernape12345|Infernape12345]] 18:17, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
:No. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:39, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
:Ok, to properly clarify, BP is always 'evolving' with new information, ease of use, and fancy templates. But "Ivypedia" nor "Venupedia" are in the cards. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:42, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

== References ==

The references on this page is very misleading. The first two references links to a section of the forums only viewable by staff members, which defeats the purpose of having the citation there, it’s supposed to be so people can look at it. I say either move the original message to a forum where everyone can see it, or just remove the first two references. Thoughts? (Preferably by a staff member). [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 02:13, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
:Anyone? [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 20:39, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
::We're looking into it. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:03, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
:::Moved! -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:48, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
::::Thank you :D [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 22:52, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

==Turkey Shoot==

About my Turkey Shoot edits, which got me blocked and got me an insult from {{u|MAGNEDETH}} that didn't make sense. In case you weren't paying attention, I was basically removing everything about the Great Bulbapedia Turkey Shoot, including information about its deletion. Now, nowhere else on Bulbapedia, not on the main namespace, shipping namespace, appendix namespace, or any other namespace you can think of (except ''maybe'' the talk namespace). It is obviously unnecessary, for it is a deleted article and making a big deal about it is asking for trouble to happen. Besides, the point of subject knowledge can also be brought up. After all, all that readers know about the Turkey Shoot (presuming they didn't read the article while it was still existent) is that it was a vandal incident, its name, and that it used to have an article. Is that really relevant?

So, what's the argument for keeping it? Sure, it does show the feelings of Bulbapedia toward vandalism, but it shows the feelings of 2 users. No matter how important those 2 users were to Bulbapedia history, 2 users in no way represent the views of the Bulbapedia network. Is that really a good way to represent Bulbapedia's stance on vandalism? Sure, it was an important part of Bulbapedia history, but the point of subject knowledge can also be brought up, and if it was ''that'' important it would still have an article.

In short, the Turkey Shoot information should be removed. The above [[User_talk:Spyspotter|comment]] is [[Special:Contributions/Spyspotter|supported]] by [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]]. 03:37, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
:I agree that the Turkey Shoot information is unimportant, but your actions (6 attempts to remove it, despite getting 3 edit warring blocks for doing so) are reprehensible and I'd rather it stay than have your edit warring rewarded. It will go by discussion or it will not go at all, and removing it over and over will not solve anything. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:47, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Psypoke

2013-09-19T10:49:33Z

DisgruntledGoat: Section content

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'''Psypoke''' (also sometimes written as '''PsyPoke''') is a Pokémon website that was originally owned, from 1999 to 2000, by Canadian webmaster Abra K. on the domain psypoke.com.

== History ==

Psypoke's original incarnation was not very helpful as Pokémon fan sites went - it lacked a Pokédex and detailed information on the video games. It was also infamous for the amount of advertising on it. However, the site had popular activities such as the Psypoke Gym Challenge and its forums were the most popular Pokémon-related message board on the forum Coolboard.com during late 1999 and 2000.

Psypoke also held weekly trivia contests in its chat room, which was originally hosted on MediaDriven.net. Eventually, non-Pokémon fans frequented the chat more than actual fans of the franchise, and the members of the Psypoke community moved the chat to axpi.net, with the site expanding to hold trivia contests every Thursday and Saturday throughout late 2000 and much of 2001. It was also around this time that Psypoke briefly hosted the young [[Serebii.net]], with {{OBP|Serebii|person}} becoming a news updater on Psypoke.com until he acquired his own web space.

After he had decided to leave the site in the summer of 2000, Abra K. transferred ownership to four people, most of whom were trivia regulars: darkmind, TheKirbster, Nova, and DeadeyeDave. These four webmasters called themselves "The Psypoke Elite Four" and started a new forum on ezboard.com. In 2001, Psypoke.com completely vanished from the Internet when Abra K. allowed the domain name to expire. The Psypoke Elite Four acquired the domain name psypokes.com in July 2001 and started a new UBB message board. However, before a new site could be launched, the hosting fell through and Psypoke became homeless.

Psypoke continued on as a somewhat-underground forum community on a second Ezboard throughout the rest of 2001 and much of 2002. Other than its Ezboard, its only web presence was a small fan page called the Psypoke Gear, or PPG, which was created by TonberryKing and Amphy and modeled after Generation II's [[Pokégear]]. It was not until December 17, 2002, that Psypoke returned as a main Web site under the ownership of the second, and current, Psypoke Elite Four: TonberryKing, Amphy, darkmind, and Frost. The site's former chatroom server, axpi.net, hosted the site at psypoke.net and psypoke.org until the server shut down in 2004.

Following axpi's closure, Psypoke moved to the GameSpy Network's ClassicGaming.com, with the site eventually re-obtaining its current domain name, psypokes.com. On March 16, 2007, the Elite Four relinquished all site and forum responsibilities to a new "Lite Four" of Krisp, sN0wBaLL, FireStarter, and TheCyberMew, with a fifth new admin being "The Geek," Jigglypuff, who handles much of the programming. While most of the former Psypoke Elite Four members have departed from the site, Frost still contributes as an administrator, meaning that the site has six altogether.

From May 1, 2004, until March 4, 2011, IGN hosted the site, first indirectly through ClassicGaming.com and Gamespy.com, and eventually directly after the network had largely cut down on its web hosting in the late 2000's. The current site is now independent, and its main feature its extensive game-related Pokédex, which is named the Psydex, although other features include walkthroughs for all of the main series games.

==Administrators==

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| Abra K. (1999-2000)
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| First Psypoke E4
| TheKirbster (2000-2002)
| darkmind (2000-2007)
| [http://www.aaronmcquade.com Nova] (2000-2002)
| Deadeyedave (2000-2002)
|-
| Second Psypoke E4
| TonberryKing (2002-2007)
| Amphy (2002-2007)
| [[User:Razzia|Frost]] (2002-)
| darkmind
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| Lite Four
| FireStarter (2007-)
| sN0wBaLL (2007-)
| TheCyberMew (2007-)
| [[User:chocokrisp|Krisp]] (2007-)
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April Fools' Day 2013

2013-09-19T10:14:02Z

DisgruntledGoat: /* Other fan sites */ link to article pages instead of direct to sites

April 1, 2013 was an {{wp|April Fools' Day}} that fell on a Monday. In the Pokémon fandom, some websites pulled hoaxes on gullible fans.

==Hoaxes==
===Fansites===
====Bulbagarden====
* [[Bulbanews]] posted {{n|Plasma attempt Bulbagarden Takeover|an article about Team Plasma attempting a Bulbagarden takeover}}.
* Bulbagarden forums were permanently changed to become '''Bananagarden Forums''', which was used in 2007, with the forum taking on an appearance based on bananas. Along with that:
** Some forum sections were replaced with non-Pokémon related sections, and some were replaced with sections about the [[Generation III]] related topics like the {{series|Advanced Generation}} and speculation on {{game3|FireRed and LeafGreen|Red and Blue remakes|s}}.
** [[Team Aqua]] and [[Team Magma]] used the Video Games section to recruit members for their cause.
** The Fun&Games section was announced to be closing.

====Other fan sites====
* [[Psypoke]] featured a Slowpoke crawling across the bottom of the site and forums with the message "HAPPY NEW YEAR!" on April 2, 2013 after not running a prank on April 1.
* [[PokéCommunity]] made all of their user's posts have a random Pokémon for their avatar, username and the custom user title to that of the random Pokémon. The Pokémon would change upon every time the page is refreshed, and the Pokémon may become a [[Shiny Pokémon]], signified by a sparkling effect on the username and the avatar would show a Pokémon's shiny sprite. Also, the fifth generation gaming moderator "Forever" claimed that she would be leaving the site, but was later revealed to be a joke.
* [[Pokémon Database]] changed the header to use "Disapprovalmon", turned all images upside-down, and changed to font to {{wp|Comic Sans}}.
* [http://projectpokemon.org/forums/ Project Pokémon] changed the forum name to Project Digimon.
* [[It's Super Effective (podcast)|PKMNcast.com]], which normally features a Pokémon of the Week on Mondays, instead featured an article about Cardfight‼ Vanguard.
* [[Smogon]] and [http://www.pokemonshowdown.com/ Pokémon Showdown!] changed all the sprites on Pokémon Showdown to [http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/ various fan-drawn sprites].

===Others===
* Pokémon posted on the official Facebook fanpage news that revealed several colleges would be offering courses in Pokémon mastery.

==Gallery==
<gallery>
File:4-1-13-Pokémon-Facebook.png|Pokémon Fanpage
File:4-1-13-Pokémon-OnSite.png|The link from Pokémon's Facebook post
File:4-1-13-BannanGarden.png|Bulbagarden Forums Skin
File:PokemonDb_April_Fools_2013.png|PokemonDb's April Fools design
</gallery>
{{April Fools'}} 
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[[Category:Events]]

April Fools' Day 2010

2013-09-19T10:06:03Z

DisgruntledGoat: /* Other fan sites */ link to article pages instead of direct to sites

'''April 1, 2010''' was an {{wp|April Fools' Day}} that fell on a Thursday. In the Pokémon fandom, many websites pulled hoaxes on and supplied false information to gullible fans.

==Hoaxes==
===Fan sites===
====Bulbagarden====
[[File:Slowpedia.png|200px|thumb|right|Bulbapedia as "Slowpedia"]]
* Bulbapedia temporarily rechristened itself as '''Slowpedia''', "the sluggish and mellow Pokémon encyclopedia", complete with {{p|Slowpoke}} family imagery and pink Slowpoke colors throughout the site.
* Bulbagarden forums were redesigned to become '''503 Service Unavailable Garden''', with the logo "No April Fools Joke is able to take this request".

====Other fan sites====
* [[PKMN.NET]] "announced" that the site would be slightly shifting its focus away from Pokémon and become the #1 fansite focusing on {{wp|Manchester United}} footballer, {{wp|Wayne Rooney}}, whom the site says is secretly a Pokémon addict.<ref>[http://pkmn.net/?action=news&page=viewnews&id=745 Wayne Rooney, Pokémon addict]</ref> The site was also slightly redesigned with Rooney imagery.
* [[Dogasu's Backpack]] was completely redesigned with a total shift in focus from Pokémon to {{wp|Digimon}} and renames itself to '''Numemon's Backpack'''. This change was so great that its Bulbapedia article jokingly became a candidate for deletion because "it was no longer a Pokémon fansite".
* [[Legendary Pokémon (site)|Legendary Pokémon]] broke news that, according to the official Japanese Pokémon website, players of HeartGold and SoulSilver who upload a Slowpoke nicknamed "[[M13|Movie13]]" to the [[Global Terminal|GTS]], looking in return for another random Slowpoke, will receive a blue level 30 Slowpoke holding a "Lock Capsule", which can be transferred to the upcoming [[Generation V]] games and allow the player to capture {{p|Zoroark}}.<ref>[http://www.legendarypokemon.net/2010/04/01/English/lock-capsule-event-via-gts Legendary Pokémon]</ref>
[[File:tpm yellow forest announcement.jpg|200px|thumb|right|The PokéMasters on April Fools' Day 2010]]
* [[The PokéMasters]] changed the themes of its main site and forums to "cute" themes, disabling the style changing dropdowns on both. The forums also implemented a word filter that automatically changed various swear words into words such as "hug", "rainbow", and "pie", and also redirected the link back to the site to a [[wp:Rickrolling|Rickroll]] site. Additionally, the site's announcement of the {{pw|Yellow Forest}} [[Pokéwalker]] event was written in the language of {{p|Pikachu}}.
[[File:Psypoke April Fools Day 2010.png|200px|thumb|right|Psypoke on April Fools' Day 2010]]
* [[Psypoke]]'s main page was totally replaced with what appeared to be an older version of the site, with the header text saying that the site's estimated completion date would be "roughly three years from now". The site also asks for visitors to click on its ads, such as the fake banner ad on the right of the page, to help it generate revenue; a reference to when it had heavy advertising. All content related to anything released after the original Gold and Silver versions was removed from the fake homepage. Clicking on any of the links (including the aforementioned fake ad) took visitors to the ''actual'' main page.
* Similar to the previous year, [http://www.collectorviper.com/ Collectorviper] showed an image revealing the existence of three promo cards with {{p|Zorua}} and Zoroark on them that were due to come out in July. The resource links<ref>[http://golbat.diarynote.jp/ Collectorviper 1]</ref><ref>[http://kai_gun.livejournal.com/ Collectorviper 2]</ref> goes to two blogs of the people who made the cards in the image, with at least one person showing the cards she made and revealing that it was an April Fools' prank. The next day, Collectorviper also revealed that it was a hoax and that the co-conspirators helped set it off.
* [[PokéCommunity]] changed its name to Slowpokécommunity and locked the skin as a pink, [[Slowpoke]] themed one. This was to reflect the fact that these events happened on April 2nd, the day after April Fools' Day.

===Other===
* {{wp|1UP.com}} showed a fake trailer for a Pokémon go-kart racing game similar to Nintendo's {{smw|Mario Kart (series)|Mario Kart}} series.<ref>[http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/28723 Fake trailer]</ref>
* [http://www.toonzone.net Toonzone.net] stated that {{p|Piplup}} would be {{p|Pikachu|Pikachu's}} successor as the mascot for the Pokémon franchise.<ref>[http://www.toonzone.net/blog/blogs/192/huge-pokmon-announcement-piplup-to-be-the-new-mascot/ New mascot announcement]</ref>

==References==
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April Fools' Day 2012

2013-09-19T10:04:13Z

DisgruntledGoat: /* Other fan sites */ link to article page instead of direct to site

'''April 1, 2012''' was an {{wp|April Fools' Day}} that fell on a Sunday. In the Pokémon fandom, many websites pulled hoaxes on gullible fans.

==Hoaxes==

===Fansites===
====Bulbagarden====
* [[Bulbanews]] posted {{n|Leaked document reveals upcoming games|an article about several leaked upcoming games}} which included [[Pokémon Battrio]] for the [[Nintendo 3DS]] and a "demake" of {{2v2|Black|White}} for the original [[Game Boy]], along with a fake trailer for the game created by Pokémon hacker Koolboyman.
* The Anime Forum also released a list of fake anime episodes which included the return of Giovanni and a battle between him and Ash.
* Bulbagarden forums were redesigned to become '''NOT Bulbagarden''', with the forum taking on a look and theme of ''2001: A Space Odyssey'' as though the fake announcement of the Bulbagarden forums moving away from Pokémon talk had just recently taken place.

====Other fan sites====

[[File:PokemonDb_April_Fools_2012.jpg|thumb|right|Pokemon Database 'corrupted by Missingno.']]
* [[Psypoke]] had shaking rainbow-colored text on the front news page along with a constant line of {{p|Bidoof}} marching down the page.
* [[Pokémon Database]] replaced all sprites with those of Missingno and styled the header to look glitchy. Regular sprites could be seen by clicking the "restart your game" link.
* [[PKMNcast.com]] followed last year's example and became distorted with images and signs of [[Missingno.]] The banner had an image of Missingno. on it, with various parts of the website missing, and the colors were changed.
* [http://veekun.com veekun] was taken over by a {{p|Treecko}} and was renamed to "treekun", taking on the look and feel of Treecko's colors.
* [[Pokécharms]] was rebranded as "KyruemCharms" with the slogan "We're PINGAS and proud of it".
* [http://www.pokecardex.com/ Pokecardex] was taken over by Panini Cards, with the site transformed into Panini's imagery.
* [[Dogasu's Backpack]] took on the look and theme of 1997 as though the airing of the first episode of the {{pkmn|anime}} was about to take place.
* [[Marriland|Pokémon Marriland]] changed "Pokémon" to "Pocketmon" on every page of the site. Also, many icons and sprites were replaced with those of Bidoof, but the names of the Pokémon remained the same. In addition, a supposed {{p|Keldeo}} event that began April 1st was announced on the site.
* Pokeboard, a lesser known forum, made the mods appear to be banned. This was easily seen through as the mods could still post.

==Miscellaneous==

*This date marked the fifteenth anniversary of the [[Pokémon anime]].

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April Fools' Day 2011

2013-09-19T10:02:01Z

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'''April 1, 2011''' was an {{wp|April Fools' Day}} that fell on a Friday. In the Pokémon fandom, many websites pulled hoaxes on gullible fans.
==Hoaxes==
===Fan sites===
====Bulbagarden====
[[File:FushigipediaSS.png|200px|thumb|right|Bulbapedia as "Fushigipedia"]]
*Bulbapedia temporarily rechristened itself as '''Fushigipedia''', "the Pocket Monster encyclopedia", complete with [[Generation I]] colors, references, and imagery of Pokémon throughout the site. The featured article was {{appendix|Game Boy}}, rewritten for 1998. To coincide with the Bulbasaur theme of Bulbapedia, the romanization derivation is taken from Bulbasaur's name, ''Fushigidane''.
*Bulbanews temporarily undertook the name of '''Fushiginews''' updating articles "Every 13 years". Covering the front page were [[n:Category:1998|articles from 1998]] including an article about a rumored [[SS Anne#Rumors|Truck]] on the Vermilion City port.
*Bulbagarden forums were redesigned to become '''Retrogarden''', with the forum taking on a look and theme of 1998 as though the announcement of Pokémon coming to the United States had just recently taken place.
*Bulbagarden Archives was given an aesthetic makeover and renamed '''Fushigi-Archives''' to match the themes of both Fushigipedia and Fushiginews.

====Other fan sites====
[[File:PokeCommunityAF2011SerebiiForumsComparison.png|thumb|right|Pokécommunity vs. Serebii]]
*[[PKMN.NET]] reported on a new Pokémon Trading Card video game for the Nintendo 3DS titled "Pokémon Trading Card Revolution". <ref>[http://pkmn.net/?action=news&page=viewnews&id=856 TCG Game Sequel Finally Announced For 3DS]</ref>
*[[The PokéMasters]] temporarily renamed itself to "The Gary Oak Masters" and changed the themes of its main site and forums, disabling the style changing dropdowns on both. The forums also implemented a celebration of Gary Oak with every thread mentioning "Gary was Here" and the Rival music from [[Generation I]] being played. An account named "Gary Oak" was also created and used by the staff members to post messages reminiscent of Gary's anime incarnation. Additionally, the site posted a fake announcement of Pokémon Snap 3DS (a sequel to [[Pokémon Snap]]) with the first letter of each paragraph spelling APRILFOOLS and the source linking to Rebecca Black's 'Friday' video. April Fools' Day was on a Friday that year.
[[File:PsypokeAprilFoolsBWbanner.jpg|thumb|right|One of Psypoke's fake banner ads found on the site during April Fool's Day]]
*[[Psypoke]] was redesigned with an advertising campaign with the theme of Rebecca Black Version and Betty White Version. Advertisements were placed on the main site and forums with respective banners including Betty White Version [[RageCandyBar]], Rebecca Black [[Xtransceiver]] and [[Week Siblings|Frieda of Friday]] parodies, the latter being a reference to Black's song "Friday."
*[http://veekun.com veekun] appeared as a mirror image, flipping back to normal when the cursor was over the page. 
*Similar to previous years, [[PokéCommunity]] parodied [[Serebii.net|Serebii]] Forums and locked the skin as the same {{p|Celebi}} green.
*PokéCharms was redesigned as Smug World Order (SWO) with a {{p|Snivy|Smugleaf}} theming. The site announced its allegiance and dedication by handing over the site to "Lord Smugleaf". <ref>[http://www.pokecharms.com/2011/04/welcome-to-the-smug-world-order/ Welcome to the Smug World Order]</ref>
[[File:Pokemon Database April Fools 2011.png|thumb|right|Pokemon Database as "Stunfisk Database"]]
*[[Smogon]] pretended to accidentally have deleted their whole Wi-Fi forum.
*[[Pokémon Database]] redesigned as the "Stunfisk Database", with Stunfisk taking the place of Scyther and Electivire in the header as well being tiled on the background.
*[[Marriland]] became "Scraggiland" for the day, complete with a new orange theme with {{p|Scraggy}} colors and Scraggy and {{p|Scrafty}} imagery. In addition, the site also introduced new themes based on {{p|Woobat}}, {{p|Vanillite}}, {{p|Stunfisk}} and {{p|Karrablast}}, with each theme also renaming the site after their respective Pokémon, although Marriland's new Scraggy avatar remained unchanged regardless of what theme was chosen.
* [[Pokébeach]] started a forum discussion called "Secret Soup". The banner of the forums had been distorted to slightly reveal a message. As the message was difficult to read, there was much confusion as to what was happening. The title of the thread was changed several times, including "Secret Soon" and "Secret Spam". Mods posted several comments about clues and such, and most of the forum got riled up with excitement and confusion. It was eventually revealed at the end of the night that it was all a prank.
*[[PKMNcast.com]] became distorted with images and signs of [[Missingno.]] The banner had an image of Missingno. on it, various parts of the website was missing, and the colors were changed.

===Other===
[[wp:North by Northwestern|North by Northwestern]], a daily online newsmagazine at Northwestern University, was transformed into Meowth by Meowthwestern, with bogus Pokémon-themed campus news stories available in Blue and Red versions. <ref>[http://www.northbynorthwestern.com/pokemon-blue/ Blue][http://www.northbynorthwestern.com/pokemon-red/ Red]</ref>

==References==
<references />

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User talk:DisgruntledGoat

2013-09-19T09:54:07Z

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Pokémon Database

2013-09-19T09:49:42Z

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'''Pokémon Database''' is a Pokémon website started in 2008.

Pokémon Database focuses on main series games with content including information on Pokémon, [[move]]s, [[Ability|Abilities]], and [[type]]s. It also features a forum-like Q&A section called PokéBase (short for Pokémon Knowledgebase). PokéBase has over 16,000 members and over 21,000 questions.

The site has a [[Pokémon Showdown!]] server.

==History==
The site was founded as a test site in January 2008, only containing a list of Pokémon and some basic details. As more details were added and the design finalized, the site was moved to the domain pokemondb.co.uk in March 2008. The site continued to grow, receiving up to 100 visitors per day.

In March 2010, the site moved to pokemondb.net to have a more global appeal. In April 2010, the Q&A forum PokéBase was set up, proving to be very popular.

In March 2011, due to the international release of {{game|Black and White|s}}, the site had its activity record broken, surpassing 100,000 unique visitors per day. The number of visitors remained high after this rush.

The third redesign of the site was begun in December 2012, around Christmas. The aim of the design was to allow the site to function well on mobile devices. This redesign was launched in July 2013.

==Technical information==
The site is coded in {{wp|PHP}} with the {{wp|CodeIgniter}} framework, and the database runs on {{wp|MySQL}}. The server is {{wp|Nginx}}, but was previously {{wp|Apache HTTP Server|Apache}}. PokéBase is run on [http://www.question2answer.org/ Question2Answer].

==External links==
*[http://pokemondb.net/about Pokémon Database's about page]

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Category talk:Fan sites

2013-07-28T12:06:21Z

DisgruntledGoat: /* How big should a site be before it gets an article? */

Could someone write about [http://www.dragonflycave.com Cave of Dragonflies]? Thanks. [[User:GuardianSong|GuardianSong]] 15:00, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
:[[The_Cave_of_Dragonflies|It already has a page]]. [[User:Takoto| - Takoto]] 15:46, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

They forgot pokemmo.eu [[User:Kingsisle|Kingsisle]] ([[User talk:Kingsisle|talk]]) 16:36, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

== How big should a site be before it gets an article? ==

I want to add Pokefarm, but I'm not sure if it would be big enough to be considered [[User:Shadowater|Shadowater]] 05:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

:I think someone should make a PokéFarm article now, it's popular enough.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 07:54, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

What about pokemon tower defense the game is huge and tons of people play it? [[User:VENUS,MEGA,SCEPT,TORTE,SERP|VENUS,MEGA,SCEPT,TORTE,SERP]] 22:57, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Well I added [[Pokemon Database]] a while back but for some reason being the 5th most popular Pokemon fansite in the world is not good enough and it got deleted :/ [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] ([[User talk:DisgruntledGoat|talk]]) 12:06, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

April Fools' Day 2013

2013-04-06T22:09:11Z

DisgruntledGoat: /* Other fan sites */ Add more info for PokemonDb

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April 1, 2013 was an {{wp|April Fools' Day}} that fell on a Monday. In the Pokémon fandom, some websites pulled hoaxes on gullible fans.

==Hoaxes==

===Fansites===
====Bulbagarden====
* [[Bulbanews]] posted {{n|Plasma attempt Bulbagarden Takeover|an article about Team Plasma attempting a Bulbagarden takeover}}.
* Bulbagarden forums were permanently changed to become '''Bananagarden Forums''', which was used in 2007, with the forum taking on an appearance based on bananas. Along with that:
** Some forum sections were replaced with non-Pokémon related sections, and some were replaced with sections about the {{series|Advanced Generation}} and speculation on {{game3|FireRed and LeafGreen|Red and Blue remakes|s}}.
** [[Team Aqua]] and [[Team Magma]] used the Video Games section to recruit members for their cause.
** The Fun&Games section was announced to be closing.

====Other fan sites====
* [[Psypoke]] featured a Slowpoke crawling across the bottom of the site and forums with the message "HAPPY NEW YEAR!" on April 2, 2013 after not running a prank on April 1.
* [[Pokécommunity]] made all of their user's posts have a random Pokémon for their Avatar, Username and the Custom User Title to that of the random Pokémon. The Pokémon would change upon every time the page is refreshed, and the Pokemon may become a [[Shiny Pokémon]], signified by a sparkling effect on the Username and the Avatar will show a Pokémon's shiny sprite. Also, the Fifth Generation Gaming Moderator 'Forever' claimed that she would be leaving the site, but was later revealed to be a prank.
* [http://pokemondb.net/ Pokémon Database] changed the header to use "Disapprovalmon", turned all images upside-down, and changed to font to Comic Sans MS.
* [http://projectpokemon.org/forums/ Project Pokémon] changed the forum name to Project Digimon.
* [http://pkmncast.com/ PKMNcast.com] normally features a Pokémon of the Week every Monday. Instead, April 1st featured an article about Cardfight!! Vanguard.

===Others===
* Pokémon posted on the official Facebook fanpage news that revealed several colleges would be offering courses in Pokémon mastery.

==Gallery==
<gallery>
File:4-1-13-Pokémon-Facebook.png|Pokémon Fanpage
File:4-1-13-Pokémon-OnSite.png|The link from Pokémon's Facebook post
File:4-1-13-BannanGarden.png|Bulbagarden Forums Skin
File:PokemonDb_April_Fools_2013.png|PokemonDb's April Fools design
</gallery>
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April Fools' Day 2013

2013-04-06T22:02:10Z

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{{incomplete}}
April 1, 2013 was an {{wp|April Fools' Day}} that fell on a Monday. In the Pokémon fandom, some websites pulled hoaxes on gullible fans.

==Hoaxes==

===Fansites===
====Bulbagarden====
* [[Bulbanews]] posted {{n|Plasma attempt Bulbagarden Takeover|an article about Team Plasma attempting a Bulbagarden takeover}}.
* Bulbagarden forums were permanently changed to become '''Bananagarden Forums''', which was used in 2007, with the forum taking on an appearance based on bananas. Along with that:
** Some forum sections were replaced with non-Pokémon related sections, and some were replaced with sections about the {{series|Advanced Generation}} and speculation on {{game3|FireRed and LeafGreen|Red and Blue remakes|s}}.
** [[Team Aqua]] and [[Team Magma]] used the Video Games section to recruit members for their cause.
** The Fun&Games section was announced to be closing.

====Other fan sites====
* [[Psypoke]] featured a Slowpoke crawling across the bottom of the site and forums with the message "HAPPY NEW YEAR!" on April 2, 2013 after not running a prank on April 1.
* [[Pokécommunity]] made all of their user's posts have a random Pokémon for their Avatar, Username and the Custom User Title to that of the random Pokémon. The Pokémon would change upon every time the page is refreshed, and the Pokemon may become a [[Shiny Pokémon]], signified by a sparkling effect on the Username and the Avatar will show a Pokémon's shiny sprite. Also, the Fifth Generation Gaming Moderator 'Forever' claimed that she would be leaving the site, but was later revealed to be a prank.
* [http://pokemondb.net/ Pokémon Database] displayed every image on the website upside-down.
* [http://projectpokemon.org/forums/ Project Pokémon] changed the forum name to Project Digimon.
* [http://pkmncast.com/ PKMNcast.com] normally features a Pokémon of the Week every Monday. Instead, April 1st featured an article about Cardfight!! Vanguard.

===Others===
* Pokémon posted on the official Facebook fanpage news that revealed several colleges would be offering courses in Pokémon mastery.

==Gallery==
<gallery>
File:4-1-13-Pokémon-Facebook.png|Pokémon Fanpage
File:4-1-13-Pokémon-OnSite.png|The link from Pokémon's Facebook post
File:4-1-13-BannanGarden.png|Bulbagarden Forums Skin
File:PokemonDb_April_Fools_2013.png|PokemonDb's April Fools design
</gallery>
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April Fools' Day 2012

2013-03-30T17:20:50Z

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April 1, 2012 was an {{wp|April Fools' Day}} that fell on a Sunday. In the Pokémon fandom, many websites pulled hoaxes on gullible fans.

==Hoaxes==

===Fansites===
====Bulbagarden====
* [[Bulbanews]] posted {{n|Leaked document reveals upcoming games|an article about several leaked upcoming games}} which included [[Pokémon Battrio]] for the [[Nintendo 3DS]] and a "demake" of {{2v2|Black|White}} for the original [[Game Boy]], along with a fake trailer for the game created by Pokémon hacker Koolboyman.
* The Anime Forum also released a list of fake anime episodes which included the return of Giovanni and a battle between him and Ash.
* Bulbagarden forums were redesigned to become '''NOT Bulbagarden''', with the forum taking on a look and theme of ''2001: A Space Odyssey'' as though the fake announcement of the Bulbagarden forums moving away from Pokémon talk had just recently taken place.

====Other fan sites====

[[File:PokemonDb_April_Fools_2012.jpg|thumb|right|Pokemon Database 'corrupted by Missingno.']]
* [[Psypoke]] had shaking rainbow-colored text on the front news page along with a constant line of {{p|Bidoof}} marching down the page.
* [http://pokemondb.net/ Pokémon Database] replaced all sprites with those of Missingno and styled the header to look glitchy. Regular sprites could be seen by clicking the "restart your game" link.
* [[PKMNcast.com]] followed last year's example and became distorted with images and signs of [[Missingno.]] The banner had an image of Missingno. on it, with various parts of the website missing, and the colors were changed.
* [http://veekun.com veekun] was taken over by a {{p|Treecko}} and was renamed to "treekun", taking on the look and feel of Treecko's colors.
* [[Pokécharms]] was rebranded as "KyruemCharms" with the slogan "We're PINGAS and proud of it".
* [http://www.pokecardex.com/ Pokecardex] was taken over by Panini Cards, with the site transformed into Panini's imagery.
* [[Dogasu's Backpack]] took on the look and theme of 1997 as though the airing of the first episode of the {{pkmn|anime}} was about to take place.
* [[Marriland|Pokémon Marriland]] changed "Pokémon" to "Pocketmon" on every page of the site. Also, many icons and sprites were replaced with those of Bidoof, but the names of the Pokémon remained the same. In addition, a supposed {{p|Keldeo}} event that began April 1st was announced on the site.
* Pokeboard, a lesser known forum, made the mods appear to be banned. This was easily seen through as the mods could still post.

==Miscellaneous==

*This date marked the fifteenth anniversary of the [[Pokémon anime]].

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Talk:Chespin (Pokémon)

2013-01-16T00:49:43Z

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It is so far the only Grass type Pokemon starter not based on a reptile. [[User:Chomper4|Chomper4]] ([[User talk:Chomper4|talk]]) 13:02, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:* Feel more comfortable saying, "based on a mammal" rather than "not based on a reptile" ({{p|Oshawott}} had it worded that way, though that might be different :/ ). Guess that classification between dinosaurs, birds, lizards thing mixes up what classifies as a "reptile" for me. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 23:03, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

== Category ==

[[:Category:Generation VI Pokémon]] needs to be added to the starters' pages. I'd have done it myself, but the pages are protected --[[User:PenblooeR|Pen]][[User talk:PenblooeR|BlooeR]] 14:53, 8 January 2013 (UTC

==Name Origin ==

In the Name Origin section of the page Chespin is called "Chestpin" which I think is an error. I can't correct it because the page is protected. [[User:Water Max|Water Max]] ([[User talk:Water Max|talk]]) 16:02, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

I think his name may be based on a porcupine too. Chestnut and porcupine. It may even look like a porcupine. [[User:Milde|Milde]] ([[User talk:Milde|talk]]) 16:36, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

It could be based on Chestnut and Spin, which is related to Sonic the Hedgehog, since all of the other languages have something related to hedgehogs. No? [[User:Dragonace|Dragonace]] ([[User talk:Dragonace|talk]]) 20:13, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

I think [[User:Milde|Milde]] was right, is a porcupine (Spanish "puercoeSPIN") like the Kanto legendary birds ends with a spanish word.
--[[User:EricZangano|EricZangano]] ([[User talk:EricZangano|talk]]) 06:21, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:I agree with that. Since hedgehogs and porcupines are quite similar it wouldn't be surprising if its name was based on Chestnut and Puercoespín (Spanish for 'Porcupine'), they've used Spanish words for English names before so it wouldn't be that weird that they do that in this case. [[User:KyseL|KyseL]] ([[User talk:KyseL|talk]]) 23:52, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

"Chespin" is also an anagram of the word "pinches." A rubbish anagram of it, but an anagram nonetheless. I'm aware that this particular nugget might currently be too banal even for an internet wiki, but if we ever find out it evolves into something called Chessnat, then hey - looks like I've got anagram corner covered. Especially since it does look a little bit like a chestnut. With a squirrel inside. Do all chestnuts have that? [[User:Constantmotion|Constantmotion]] ([[User talk:Constantmotion|talk]]) 02:29, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

* Japanese: From hedgehog and chestnut
* French: From hedgehog and chestnut
* German: From hedgehog and chestnut
* English: From chestnut and pin?
'''???''' --[[User:PenblooeR|Pen]][[User talk:PenblooeR|BlooeR]] 04:24, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
:This is the main reason I think it might be an anagram! Usually I'd not say anything, given what a long shot that is, but there's got to be something clever going on with that name, it can't be from "pin," why would it be from "pin?" "Pinches" is the only other word I see in there. Pine, maybe, but chestnuts and pines are two different things. Although, maybe it's "Pin" as in "Porcupine?" With the E removed for consistency later in the evolution line. I don't know. I think Chespin's going to make a lot more sense when we see his brothers. [[User:Constantmotion|Constantmotion]] ([[User talk:Constantmotion|talk]]) 09:48, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

I still think porcupine makes more sense than urchin. Isn't urchin a sea thing? --[[User:PenblooeR|Pen]][[User talk:PenblooeR|BlooeR]] 17:12, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

:I think they removed the "e" just for sound reasons. As other names are from hedgehog, the English one is from porcupine, but "Chestpine" wasn't good enough, so they removed the "e", since the sound is still the same. [[User:Tano|Tano]] [[User talk:Tano]] 18:26, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

What about about chestnut and spine? That fits with the other languages' hedgehog theme. - ''signed comment from [[User:GoldenCelebi|GoldenCelebi]] ([[User talk:GoldenCelebi|pedia talk]] • [[Bulbanews:User talk:GoldenCelebi|news talk]] • [[a:User talk:GoldenCelebi|archives talk]])'' ''15:07, 12 January 2013 (UTC)''

:Another name for hedgehog is urchin. It's got that "in" at the end. That's all I got. Edit: Apparently that infos already been added, oh well.[[User:Scarabola|Scarabola]] ([[User talk:Scarabola|talk]]) 15:16, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

:I think that porcupines and hedgehogs are similar enough to allow the English origin to fit the other languages just with chestnut + porcupine. However pin is fine too, since it has something to do with porcupines and hedgehogs. --[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 16:01, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

==Gender ratio==
Are we sure that's the gender ratio? We're not assuming it has {{a|Overgrow}}... --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 21:31, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

== Numbering ==

Following numbering tradition, can we assume that for now it's 650? --[[User:M.vit|M.vit]] ([[User talk:M.vit|talk]]) 23:08, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:No, because Snivy isn't 494, Victini is. We can't make any assumptions. --[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] ([[User talk:Purimpopoie|talk]]) 23:12, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
::Plus for all we know they might change up the order. Doubt it but who knows until they actually reveal officially. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 00:43, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:::I agree. They might change the Pokedex numbering, like they did with Black and White route numbering. I think we should just play it safe, and wait until they officially announce it. [[User:PokemonSeaandSky]]

== Pokédex ==

Under Regional Pokédex numbers, why does it say Not in any regional Pokédex instead of unknown Pokédex since it has to be in a Pokédex and it is too early to put that it was not in one? [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 23:30, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

== Design Origin ==

Shouldn't we add that it appears to be based on a chestnut and possibly a porcupine or hedgehog?
--[[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] ([[User talk:CoolDudeAl|talk]]) 01:30, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

*Yeah, it should also be trivia'd that it is the first grass starter not based off of a reptile. [[User:Chomper4|Chomper4]] ([[User talk:Chomper4|talk]]) 03:04, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:* Or at least the first grass starter based off of a mammal. Weren't {{p|Bulbasaur}} and {{p|Chikorita}} based more on an amphibian and a {{wp|sauropod}} respectively? Thought amphibians and sauropods were separate from reptiles. :/ need to brush up on my zoology ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 22:23, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
::You're right, we know that dinosaurs are more similar to birds than to reptiles (they're not birds however), but if I remember correctly, in 90's that was still unclear. Well, Chespin is absolutely the first mammal-based Grass starter, unless it doesn't change in one of it's evolutions. [[User:Tano|Tano]] [[User talk:Tano]] 18:26, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
::* I have to correct myself and NateVirus here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur -> "Rather, they represent a separate group of '''reptiles''' with a distinct upright posture". So dinosaurs are indeed reptiles, and so Bulbasaur and Chikorita are based on reptiles. Birds evolved from theropoda, a group of dinosaurs (still reptiles). I also asked a biologist friend of mine and he confirmed, making it sound pretty obvious. [[User:Tano|Tano]] [[User talk:Tano]] 18:46, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
::: So, yes, every single Grass-type starter was based on reptiles, as Bulbasaur is a Dicynodontia (a taxon of anomodont therapsids or mammal-like reptiles), and Chikorita (or rather Meganium) is a Brontosaurus, and both are reptiles. The others are a gecko, a turtle and a snake. [[User:Tano|Tano]] [[User talk:Tano]] 18:49, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
::::It's enough to simply say it's the first based on a mammal, rather than the first non-reptile. Like how Piplup is noted to be the first bird Water starter, and Oshawott the first mammal Water starter. It's a little redundant to note that Chespin is both the first mammal and the first non-reptile. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 04:09, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
:::::They're both trivia of the same importance in my opinion. It's pointed out that before Chespin every other grass starter was based on a reptile. That's an information you can't grasp just by reading that Chespin is the first mammal. What are the others? birds and reptiles? No, ''they were all reptiles before Chespin, which is '''also''' the first mammal''. It simply gives more (correct) informations. --[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 16:06, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
::::::*Still, it is probably simpler to stick with the "first mammal" bit. Plus, like Crystal Talian stated, {{p|Piplup}} was noted as the first water starter to be based on a bird, never any note of not being a reptile. Same with {{p|Oshawott}} who really was the second water starter to be not based on a reptile. Plus, saying Chespin is the first grass starter to be based off of a mammal isn't false, it is the first grass starter to be based on a mammal. Even if future Generations come out with other mammal-based Grass starters or even bird-based or just another reptile-based starter, Chespin is still the first one to be based off of a mammal. And on the note of sauropods and amphibians (the latter actually not being reptiles, which might bring up an unrelated question about {{p|Mudkip}}), the reason why I wasn't sure about the taxonomy is because of the different types of classifications and also because birds were once categorized as reptiles then somehow placed in their own class because of being warm-blooded (though I'm sure there is more to it than just than). Kinda confused me because dinosaurs are now considered warm-blooded and seem to have more in common with birds than reptiles in some groups, it is a number of "flip-flopping" in the sorting of these animals. And {{p|Bulbasaur}}, in some way drawing from its Japanese name, looks like a weird combination of different animals (not really sure what it is sometimes), with its pointed ears and its "frog-like" posture (well not always, I remember), I only thought it was a dinosaur because of its English name and that is a little deceiving (like {{p|Psyduck}} or {{p|Golduck}}). But I digress, let's just stick with the "first mammal" bit, it isn't going to hurt anybody. If people want to know about the others before it, there should be links to their pages. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 01:29, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
*[http://i45.tinypic.com/b4wcwh.jpg Possible design origin]. A chestnut inside a green chestnut shell. --[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 21:35, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
::I've seen that before, and that was my initial idea of its origin. [[User:Scarabola|Scarabola]] ([[User talk:Scarabola|talk]]) 02:15, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

== "Was" vs. "were" ==

In the last sentence of the introduction, the word "were" should be replaced by "was" -- just a grammatical fix. [[User:EricDLee|EricDLee]] ([[User talk:EricDLee|talk]]) 02:12, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

== Language correction ==

Now my French isn't that great but marron is used to refer to the colour chestnut not the actual nut. châtaigne would be more accurate for the nut. Although Chespin would match the colour chestnut it might make good trivia.
~Elso133
:I had definitely heard of marron used to refer to chestnuts and, according to [http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marron_(fruit) Wikipedia], it specifically refers to ones of high quality.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:49, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

And what mammal is chespin based on? Why don't we just say "Chespin is the only grass type starter that is not based on a reptile"? [[User:Mesuxelf|'''Mes''']][[User talk:Mesuxelf|'''ux''''''elf''']] 19:30, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
:From the names, it implies to be based in a hedgehog. And to be honest, we should not focus on trivia right now. There are a lot more important things to take care of at the time. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 20:29, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
::Turtwig is based on a turtle, which is an amphibian. Chespin is not the only grass starter that is not based on a reptile.--[[User:Istanbul|Istanbul]] ([[User talk:Istanbul|talk]]) 20:53, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
:::Turtles are reptiles. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:08, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
:::Indeed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle "''Turtles are '''reptiles''' of the order Chelonii''" --[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 21:37, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
*It is probably just simpler to leave it the way it is. It isn't a false statement. {{p|Piplup}} did it, though surprisingly it can be argued that {{p|Mudkip}} should have that mentioned, but I don't think that is the focus. It is the first grass starter mammal, let's just leave it at that. Sidenote: As stated before me, turtles are definitely reptiles. Amphibians go through a metamorphosis, turtles never do that. Also, amphibians can breath through their skin, turtles don't. They may both be associated with water and may have somewhat similar appearances but they aren't the same. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 01:45, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

== Artwork showing old version? ==

Am I the only one not seeing the correct artwork? The file page links to '''<nowiki>http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/4/46/Chespin.png</nowiki>''' but for me that shows the old screencap from the trailer (with the black background). Thumbnails show the regular art with white/transparent background. Same happens for Fennekin and Froakie. I've made sure to reload from the cache, and tried different browsers so it's definitely not that. [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] ([[User talk:DisgruntledGoat|talk]]) 23:54, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
:Wait. It takes a while for the artwork to be changed after it has been replaced on the Archives. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 23:58, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
::Hmm, someone need to learn how to use their CDN properly ;) [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] ([[User talk:DisgruntledGoat|talk]]) 00:49, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Chespin (Pokémon)

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Talk:Chespin (Pokémon)

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It is so far the only Grass type Pokemon starter not based on a reptile. [[User:Chomper4|Chomper4]] ([[User talk:Chomper4|talk]]) 13:02, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:* Feel more comfortable saying, "based on a mammal" rather than "not based on a reptile" ({{p|Oshawott}} had it worded that way, though that might be different :/ ). Guess that classification between dinosaurs, birds, lizards thing mixes up what classifies as a "reptile" for me. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 23:03, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

== Category ==

[[:Category:Generation VI Pokémon]] needs to be added to the starters' pages. I'd have done it myself, but the pages are protected --[[User:PenblooeR|Pen]][[User talk:PenblooeR|BlooeR]] 14:53, 8 January 2013 (UTC

==Name Origin ==

In the Name Origin section of the page Chespin is called "Chestpin" which I think is an error. I can't correct it because the page is protected. [[User:Water Max|Water Max]] ([[User talk:Water Max|talk]]) 16:02, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

I think his name may be based on a porcupine too. Chestnut and porcupine. It may even look like a porcupine. [[User:Milde|Milde]] ([[User talk:Milde|talk]]) 16:36, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

It could be based on Chestnut and Spin, which is related to Sonic the Hedgehog, since all of the other languages have something related to hedgehogs. No? [[User:Dragonace|Dragonace]] ([[User talk:Dragonace|talk]]) 20:13, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

I think [[User:Milde|Milde]] was right, is a porcupine (Spanish "puercoeSPIN") like the Kanto legendary birds ends with a spanish word.
--[[User:EricZangano|EricZangano]] ([[User talk:EricZangano|talk]]) 06:21, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:I agree with that. Since hedgehogs and porcupines are quite similar it wouldn't be surprising if its name was based on Chestnut and Puercoespín (Spanish for 'Porcupine'), they've used Spanish words for English names before so it wouldn't be that weird that they do that in this case. [[User:KyseL|KyseL]] ([[User talk:KyseL|talk]]) 23:52, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

"Chespin" is also an anagram of the word "pinches." A rubbish anagram of it, but an anagram nonetheless. I'm aware that this particular nugget might currently be too banal even for an internet wiki, but if we ever find out it evolves into something called Chessnat, then hey - looks like I've got anagram corner covered. Especially since it does look a little bit like a chestnut. With a squirrel inside. Do all chestnuts have that? [[User:Constantmotion|Constantmotion]] ([[User talk:Constantmotion|talk]]) 02:29, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

* Japanese: From hedgehog and chestnut
* French: From hedgehog and chestnut
* German: From hedgehog and chestnut
* English: From chestnut and pin?
'''???''' --[[User:PenblooeR|Pen]][[User talk:PenblooeR|BlooeR]] 04:24, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
:This is the main reason I think it might be an anagram! Usually I'd not say anything, given what a long shot that is, but there's got to be something clever going on with that name, it can't be from "pin," why would it be from "pin?" "Pinches" is the only other word I see in there. Pine, maybe, but chestnuts and pines are two different things. Although, maybe it's "Pin" as in "Porcupine?" With the E removed for consistency later in the evolution line. I don't know. I think Chespin's going to make a lot more sense when we see his brothers. [[User:Constantmotion|Constantmotion]] ([[User talk:Constantmotion|talk]]) 09:48, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

I still think porcupine makes more sense than urchin. Isn't urchin a sea thing? --[[User:PenblooeR|Pen]][[User talk:PenblooeR|BlooeR]] 17:12, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

:I think they removed the "e" just for sound reasons. As other names are from hedgehog, the English one is from porcupine, but "Chestpine" wasn't good enough, so they removed the "e", since the sound is still the same. [[User:Tano|Tano]] [[User talk:Tano]] 18:26, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

What about about chestnut and spine? That fits with the other languages' hedgehog theme. - ''signed comment from [[User:GoldenCelebi|GoldenCelebi]] ([[User talk:GoldenCelebi|pedia talk]] • [[Bulbanews:User talk:GoldenCelebi|news talk]] • [[a:User talk:GoldenCelebi|archives talk]])'' ''15:07, 12 January 2013 (UTC)''

:Another name for hedgehog is urchin. It's got that "in" at the end. That's all I got. Edit: Apparently that infos already been added, oh well.[[User:Scarabola|Scarabola]] ([[User talk:Scarabola|talk]]) 15:16, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

:I think that porcupines and hedgehogs are similar enough to allow the English origin to fit the other languages just with chestnut + porcupine. However pin is fine too, since it has something to do with porcupines and hedgehogs. --[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 16:01, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

==Gender ratio==
Are we sure that's the gender ratio? We're not assuming it has {{a|Overgrow}}... --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 21:31, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

== Numbering ==

Following numbering tradition, can we assume that for now it's 650? --[[User:M.vit|M.vit]] ([[User talk:M.vit|talk]]) 23:08, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:No, because Snivy isn't 494, Victini is. We can't make any assumptions. --[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] ([[User talk:Purimpopoie|talk]]) 23:12, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
::Plus for all we know they might change up the order. Doubt it but who knows until they actually reveal officially. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 00:43, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:::I agree. They might change the Pokedex numbering, like they did with Black and White route numbering. I think we should just play it safe, and wait until they officially announce it. [[User:PokemonSeaandSky]]

== Pokédex ==

Under Regional Pokédex numbers, why does it say Not in any regional Pokédex instead of unknown Pokédex since it has to be in a Pokédex and it is too early to put that it was not in one? [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 23:30, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

== Design Origin ==

Shouldn't we add that it appears to be based on a chestnut and possibly a porcupine or hedgehog?
--[[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] ([[User talk:CoolDudeAl|talk]]) 01:30, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

*Yeah, it should also be trivia'd that it is the first grass starter not based off of a reptile. [[User:Chomper4|Chomper4]] ([[User talk:Chomper4|talk]]) 03:04, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
:* Or at least the first grass starter based off of a mammal. Weren't {{p|Bulbasaur}} and {{p|Chikorita}} based more on an amphibian and a {{wp|sauropod}} respectively? Thought amphibians and sauropods were separate from reptiles. :/ need to brush up on my zoology ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 22:23, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
::You're right, we know that dinosaurs are more similar to birds than to reptiles (they're not birds however), but if I remember correctly, in 90's that was still unclear. Well, Chespin is absolutely the first mammal-based Grass starter, unless it doesn't change in one of it's evolutions. [[User:Tano|Tano]] [[User talk:Tano]] 18:26, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
::* I have to correct myself and NateVirus here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur -> "Rather, they represent a separate group of '''reptiles''' with a distinct upright posture". So dinosaurs are indeed reptiles, and so Bulbasaur and Chikorita are based on reptiles. Birds evolved from theropoda, a group of dinosaurs (still reptiles). I also asked a biologist friend of mine and he confirmed, making it sound pretty obvious. [[User:Tano|Tano]] [[User talk:Tano]] 18:46, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
::: So, yes, every single Grass-type starter was based on reptiles, as Bulbasaur is a Dicynodontia (a taxon of anomodont therapsids or mammal-like reptiles), and Chikorita (or rather Meganium) is a Brontosaurus, and both are reptiles. The others are a gecko, a turtle and a snake. [[User:Tano|Tano]] [[User talk:Tano]] 18:49, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
::::It's enough to simply say it's the first based on a mammal, rather than the first non-reptile. Like how Piplup is noted to be the first bird Water starter, and Oshawott the first mammal Water starter. It's a little redundant to note that Chespin is both the first mammal and the first non-reptile. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 04:09, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
:::::They're both trivia of the same importance in my opinion. It's pointed out that before Chespin every other grass starter was based on a reptile. That's an information you can't grasp just by reading that Chespin is the first mammal. What are the others? birds and reptiles? No, ''they were all reptiles before Chespin, which is '''also''' the first mammal''. It simply gives more (correct) informations. --[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 16:06, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
::::::*Still, it is probably simpler to stick with the "first mammal" bit. Plus, like Crystal Talian stated, {{p|Piplup}} was noted as the first water starter to be based on a bird, never any note of not being a reptile. Same with {{p|Oshawott}} who really was the second water starter to be not based on a reptile. Plus, saying Chespin is the first grass starter to be based off of a mammal isn't false, it is the first grass starter to be based on a mammal. Even if future Generations come out with other mammal-based Grass starters or even bird-based or just another reptile-based starter, Chespin is still the first one to be based off of a mammal. And on the note of sauropods and amphibians (the latter actually not being reptiles, which might bring up an unrelated question about {{p|Mudkip}}), the reason why I wasn't sure about the taxonomy is because of the different types of classifications and also because birds were once categorized as reptiles then somehow placed in their own class because of being warm-blooded (though I'm sure there is more to it than just than). Kinda confused me because dinosaurs are now considered warm-blooded and seem to have more in common with birds than reptiles in some groups, it is a number of "flip-flopping" in the sorting of these animals. And {{p|Bulbasaur}}, in some way drawing from its Japanese name, looks like a weird combination of different animals (not really sure what it is sometimes), with its pointed ears and its "frog-like" posture (well not always, I remember), I only thought it was a dinosaur because of its English name and that is a little deceiving (like {{p|Psyduck}} or {{p|Golduck}}). But I digress, let's just stick with the "first mammal" bit, it isn't going to hurt anybody. If people want to know about the others before it, there should be links to their pages. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 01:29, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
*[http://i45.tinypic.com/b4wcwh.jpg Possible design origin]. A chestnut inside a green chestnut shell. --[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 21:35, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
::I've seen that before, and that was my initial idea of its origin. [[User:Scarabola|Scarabola]] ([[User talk:Scarabola|talk]]) 02:15, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

== "Was" vs. "were" ==

In the last sentence of the introduction, the word "were" should be replaced by "was" -- just a grammatical fix. [[User:EricDLee|EricDLee]] ([[User talk:EricDLee|talk]]) 02:12, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

== Language correction ==

Now my French isn't that great but marron is used to refer to the colour chestnut not the actual nut. châtaigne would be more accurate for the nut. Although Chespin would match the colour chestnut it might make good trivia.
~Elso133
:I had definitely heard of marron used to refer to chestnuts and, according to [http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marron_(fruit) Wikipedia], it specifically refers to ones of high quality.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:49, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

And what mammal is chespin based on? Why don't we just say "Chespin is the only grass type starter that is not based on a reptile"? [[User:Mesuxelf|'''Mes''']][[User talk:Mesuxelf|'''ux''''''elf''']] 19:30, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
:From the names, it implies to be based in a hedgehog. And to be honest, we should not focus on trivia right now. There are a lot more important things to take care of at the time. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 20:29, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
::Turtwig is based on a turtle, which is an amphibian. Chespin is not the only grass starter that is not based on a reptile.--[[User:Istanbul|Istanbul]] ([[User talk:Istanbul|talk]]) 20:53, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
:::Turtles are reptiles. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:08, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
:::Indeed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle "''Turtles are '''reptiles''' of the order Chelonii''" --[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 21:37, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
*It is probably just simpler to leave it the way it is. It isn't a false statement. {{p|Piplup}} did it, though surprisingly it can be argued that {{p|Mudkip}} should have that mentioned, but I don't think that is the focus. It is the first grass starter mammal, let's just leave it at that. Sidenote: As stated before me, turtles are definitely reptiles. Amphibians go through a metamorphosis, turtles never do that. Also, amphibians can breath through their skin, turtles don't. They may both be associated with water and may have somewhat similar appearances but they aren't the same. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 01:45, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

== Artwork showing old version? ==

Am I the only one not seeing the correct artwork? The file page links to http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/4/46/Chespin.png but for me that shows the old screencap from the trailer (with the black background). Thumbnails show the regular art with white/transparent background. Same happens for Fennekin and Froakie. I've made sure to reload from the cache, and tried different browsers so it's definitely not that. [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] ([[User talk:DisgruntledGoat|talk]]) 23:54, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Bulbapedia talk:Project Fandom/Archive 1

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Errrm... well, where can we go with this? It definitely shouldn't include nonnotable sites, like some geocities site that got established yesterday, but certainly well-known and popular ones like {{g|Zeo!}} and [[Serebii.net]]... and for sure Bulbagarden and other members of EP. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:10, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

:I think we've got enough 'notable' fansites to make a project, but even then it seems a little weird for an idea... I dunno why, it just does. (After all, after making this project I think we'd see a lot of 'LOL HERE'S A SITE ____ MADE JUST YESTERDAY AND WE WANT VISITORS'.. we're a Wiki, not the classified section. (Someone, I know, someone'll bring up the link in my siganture. Shhhhh.) {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 19:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::Pf, here's a difference between you advertising your site on talk pages in your signature with a single character and making an entire page about a three-day-old site. The problem is... where do we draw that line? I mean, I personally know of Legendary Pokémon, PA!, Zeo, Sugarshock, TR's Rockin, Psypoke, Serebii, Veekun, Smogon, Pokecharms, Marriland... and of course Bulbagarden. What other sites are there, anyway? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:26, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Pokemopolis, Pokémon Crater, Pokesho, Dogasu's Backpack, PokeBeach, PPN. And is PA! Pokeani or something else? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 19:32, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::How about.... Pokegym, '''Pokemon''', Go-Pokemon, and Pokemon-Games. --[[User:Groudon465|Groudon465]][[User talk:Groudon465|Talk]] 19:38, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::The official sites pass the notability test, if not technically fitting the definition of "fan sites". --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 19:50, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::PA!'s [[Pokémon Aaah!]]... you know, that old site. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Never heard of it before. But then, it looks like it was closed before I ventured out beyond Pokémon Crater. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 14:26, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::I found a site called Pokémon World Online and it is a MMO (Massive Multiplayer Online) if has been heard of before maybe it could get added. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 20:09, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::[[Pokémon World Online|Got it already]] :D — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 02:14, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::: Would fan-made full games fall under this category? --[[User:Sting the Trainer|Sting the Trainer]] 01:10, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

== Another site... ==

I found another site that a bunch of people on forums (including bulbapedia's) are into. It is some egg-hatching site called Global PokédeX Plus. (http://gpxplus.net/) -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 03:18, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Spriting ==

I don't believe we have an article on Pokémon Spriting or Pokémon Fusions. Since the images made using these methods are made by fans, would it fall under the Fandom section? {{unsigned|AuraGaurdian}}

== Hoax pokemon? ==

Should there be a list of hoax pokemon that had wide coverage? Pikablu and Gazellezag come to mind. (I know the former redirects to Marill.) -- [[User:Stillnotelf|stillnotelf]] [[User talk:Stillnotelf|is invisible]] 03:07, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

== PKMNcast ==
This site currently has original articles and an audio podcast (It's Super Effective) and a video podcast (Critical Hit) it's a great site. [http://www.pokemonpodcast.com/ PKMNCast] -[[User:DJZoSo|DJZoSo]]
:The article has been made a while ago as [[It's Super Effective (podcast)]]. Additionally, a redirect page for website itself ([[PKMNcast.com]]) has also been added. [[User:BulbaPediaAid|BulbaPediaAid]] 02:51, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon Tower Defense ==

Alright, so I tried to talk to SnorlaxMonster about this, who redirected me to Saturn Yoshi, who hasn't responded to me for a long time. So I have now come her, hoping for response, asking whether or not I can create a page for Pokemon Tower Defense. For all of those who do not know the game I can give you a link.
[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/566150] Please respond [[User:BrokenMotor|BrokenMotor]] 03:13, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
:That's not a site, that's one page on a non-Pokemon site.

== Something inexplicably absent! ==

Back when pokemon first came out in the states, something...bizarre happened on AOL: Battlers, for lack of a better term. These were user-made program ("progz." I dont miss the 90s.) that would use chat inputs to generate text-based battles between players. These were as strange as it sounds like, but even moreso because they were ridiculous.

I recall three of them, all of which functioned in the same manner: probably the most advanced was "Pokemon Lightning," whos creator I cannot recall. The most widely used and praised, was one whos name I cant recall, but whos creator went by the named "Coolkid" or some corruption of it. This one had the interesting trait that all the pokemon were essentially equal...Except the ridiculous powerful, game-breaking Pikachu. There was a third battler as well, but i cant even remember what it looked like, just that it didnt work.

While these may not be especially notable now, they were at the time. And the concept is bizarre to the point that I think it should be here...

...I just have no idea WHERE. [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] 11:59, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

== Another site - Pokémon Papercraft ==

[http://www.pokemonpapercraft.net Pokémon Papercraft] - a site with really cool paper models of pokemon. (Currently there are 279 of 649; new model every week). I think it is very original among numerous fan-sites. Do you think it deserves an article? [[User:Ruxax|Ruxax]] 21:33, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

== Website notability requirements ==

Hi everyone, is there a clear set of requirements for notability with regards to websites? An article I created, {{redlink|Pokemon Database}} was recently deleted for being non-notable, but it is one of the most popular fan sites in the world today. Several other fan site pages exist that don't seem remotely notable. Some seem to be called notable for being the biggest Pokemon fan site in France in 2003 (of course, an unverified claim). Can we have some basic guidelines? [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] 15:45, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
:I'll add to this what I mentioned on my talk page. For some evidence of popularity check rankings on alexa.com i.e. [http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/pokemondb.net]. Compare to other popular sites on the graph, [http://i.imgur.com/whTS2.jpg here's an example] with some other well-known fansites. Even if you take their numbers with a pinch of salt, {{redlink|Pokemon Database}} is clearly amongst those sites. [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] 00:24, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

== Pokefarm.org ==

This is a very notable site, with over 100,000 accounts on it. Is that enough for an article? I feel it is, but I'm not (yet) a part of this project, so I won't make it. [[User:Youngril|Youngril]] 00:18, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
:Oh, and also: "Pokefarm.org is ranked #57,750 in the world according to the three-month Alexa traffic rankings." [[User:Youngril|Youngril]] 00:27, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
::I would say it's notable myself, but as I said above the article for my site was deleted, despite being more popular than many other Pokemon fan sites. So if a site around #24,000 in the world isn't notable, then by Bulbapedia's "standards", Pokefarm isn't. [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] ([[User talk:DisgruntledGoat|talk]]) 14:36, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Bulbapedia talk:Project Fandom/Archive 1

2012-10-25T14:36:23Z

DisgruntledGoat: /* Pokefarm.org */

Errrm... well, where can we go with this? It definitely shouldn't include nonnotable sites, like some geocities site that got established yesterday, but certainly well-known and popular ones like {{g|Zeo!}} and [[Serebii.net]]... and for sure Bulbagarden and other members of EP. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:10, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

:I think we've got enough 'notable' fansites to make a project, but even then it seems a little weird for an idea... I dunno why, it just does. (After all, after making this project I think we'd see a lot of 'LOL HERE'S A SITE ____ MADE JUST YESTERDAY AND WE WANT VISITORS'.. we're a Wiki, not the classified section. (Someone, I know, someone'll bring up the link in my siganture. Shhhhh.) {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 19:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::Pf, here's a difference between you advertising your site on talk pages in your signature with a single character and making an entire page about a three-day-old site. The problem is... where do we draw that line? I mean, I personally know of Legendary Pokémon, PA!, Zeo, Sugarshock, TR's Rockin, Psypoke, Serebii, Veekun, Smogon, Pokecharms, Marriland... and of course Bulbagarden. What other sites are there, anyway? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:26, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Pokemopolis, Pokémon Crater, Pokesho, Dogasu's Backpack, PokeBeach, PPN. And is PA! Pokeani or something else? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 19:32, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::How about.... Pokegym, '''Pokemon''', Go-Pokemon, and Pokemon-Games. --[[User:Groudon465|Groudon465]][[User talk:Groudon465|Talk]] 19:38, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::The official sites pass the notability test, if not technically fitting the definition of "fan sites". --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 19:50, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::PA!'s [[Pokémon Aaah!]]... you know, that old site. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Never heard of it before. But then, it looks like it was closed before I ventured out beyond Pokémon Crater. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 14:26, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::I found a site called Pokémon World Online and it is a MMO (Massive Multiplayer Online) if has been heard of before maybe it could get added. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 20:09, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::[[Pokémon World Online|Got it already]] :D — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 02:14, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::: Would fan-made full games fall under this category? --[[User:Sting the Trainer|Sting the Trainer]] 01:10, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

== Another site... ==

I found another site that a bunch of people on forums (including bulbapedia's) are into. It is some egg-hatching site called Global PokédeX Plus. (http://gpxplus.net/) -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 03:18, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Spriting ==

I don't believe we have an article on Pokémon Spriting or Pokémon Fusions. Since the images made using these methods are made by fans, would it fall under the Fandom section? {{unsigned|AuraGaurdian}}

== Hoax pokemon? ==

Should there be a list of hoax pokemon that had wide coverage? Pikablu and Gazellezag come to mind. (I know the former redirects to Marill.) -- [[User:Stillnotelf|stillnotelf]] [[User talk:Stillnotelf|is invisible]] 03:07, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

== PKMNcast ==
This site currently has original articles and an audio podcast (It's Super Effective) and a video podcast (Critical Hit) it's a great site. [http://www.pokemonpodcast.com/ PKMNCast] -[[User:DJZoSo|DJZoSo]]
:The article has been made a while ago as [[It's Super Effective (podcast)]]. Additionally, a redirect page for website itself ([[PKMNcast.com]]) has also been added. [[User:BulbaPediaAid|BulbaPediaAid]] 02:51, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon Tower Defense ==

Alright, so I tried to talk to SnorlaxMonster about this, who redirected me to Saturn Yoshi, who hasn't responded to me for a long time. So I have now come her, hoping for response, asking whether or not I can create a page for Pokemon Tower Defense. For all of those who do not know the game I can give you a link.
[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/566150] Please respond [[User:BrokenMotor|BrokenMotor]] 03:13, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

== Something inexplicably absent! ==

Back when pokemon first came out in the states, something...bizarre happened on AOL: Battlers, for lack of a better term. These were user-made program ("progz." I dont miss the 90s.) that would use chat inputs to generate text-based battles between players. These were as strange as it sounds like, but even moreso because they were ridiculous.

I recall three of them, all of which functioned in the same manner: probably the most advanced was "Pokemon Lightning," whos creator I cannot recall. The most widely used and praised, was one whos name I cant recall, but whos creator went by the named "Coolkid" or some corruption of it. This one had the interesting trait that all the pokemon were essentially equal...Except the ridiculous powerful, game-breaking Pikachu. There was a third battler as well, but i cant even remember what it looked like, just that it didnt work.

While these may not be especially notable now, they were at the time. And the concept is bizarre to the point that I think it should be here...

...I just have no idea WHERE. [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] 11:59, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

== Another site - Pokémon Papercraft ==

[http://www.pokemonpapercraft.net Pokémon Papercraft] - a site with really cool paper models of pokemon. (Currently there are 279 of 649; new model every week). I think it is very original among numerous fan-sites. Do you think it deserves an article? [[User:Ruxax|Ruxax]] 21:33, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

== Website notability requirements ==

Hi everyone, is there a clear set of requirements for notability with regards to websites? An article I created, {{redlink|Pokemon Database}} was recently deleted for being non-notable, but it is one of the most popular fan sites in the world today. Several other fan site pages exist that don't seem remotely notable. Some seem to be called notable for being the biggest Pokemon fan site in France in 2003 (of course, an unverified claim). Can we have some basic guidelines? [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] 15:45, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
:I'll add to this what I mentioned on my talk page. For some evidence of popularity check rankings on alexa.com i.e. [http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/pokemondb.net]. Compare to other popular sites on the graph, [http://i.imgur.com/whTS2.jpg here's an example] with some other well-known fansites. Even if you take their numbers with a pinch of salt, {{redlink|Pokemon Database}} is clearly amongst those sites. [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] 00:24, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

== Pokefarm.org ==

This is a very notable site, with over 100,000 accounts on it. Is that enough for an article? I feel it is, but I'm not (yet) a part of this project, so I won't make it. [[User:Youngril|Youngril]] 00:18, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
:Oh, and also: "Pokefarm.org is ranked #57,750 in the world according to the three-month Alexa traffic rankings." [[User:Youngril|Youngril]] 00:27, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
::I would say it's notable myself, but as I said above the article for my site was deleted, despite being more popular than many other Pokemon fan sites. So if a site around #24,000 in the world isn't notable, then by Bulbapedia's "standards", Pokefarm isn't. [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] ([[User talk:DisgruntledGoat|talk]]) 14:36, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Swift Swim (Ability)

2012-10-22T14:40:47Z

DisgruntledGoat: /* Intro */ swift swim is the most prevalent, not chlorophyll

{{AbilityInfobox
|name=Swift Swim
|jpname=すいすい
|jptrans=Smoothly
|jptranslit=Suisui
|colorscheme=water
|gen=3
|text3=Raises Speed in rain.
|text4=Boosts the Pokémon's Speed in rain.
|text5=Boosts the Pokémon's Speed in rain.
}}
'''Swift Swim''' (Japanese: '''すいすい''' ''Smoothly'') is an [[Ability]] introduced in [[Generation III]]. Thirty-eight {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} can have this Ability, which makes it the most prevalent Ability in the games.

==Effect==
===In battle===
Swift Swim doubles the user's {{stat|Speed}} stat in {{weather|rain}}.

===Outside of battle===
Swift Swim has no effect outside of battle.

==={{g|Mystery Dungeon}}===
Whenever the Pokémon uses a special move while it is raining, the move is used twice. No additional PP is used during the second usage. If the Pokémon has a speed bonus, only the first move will gain the benefit of Swift Swim. If the special move is part of a [[linked move]], all moves in the link are performed before they are done the second time.

==Pokémon with Swift Swim==
{{Ability/head|Water}}
{{ability/entry|054|Psyduck|Water|Water|Damp|Cloud Nine|Swift Swim}}
{{ability/entry|055|Golduck|Water|Water|Damp|Cloud Nine|Swift Swim}}
{{ability/entry|060|Poliwag|Water|Water|Water Absorb|Damp|Swift Swim}}
{{ability/entry|061|Poliwhirl|Water|Water|Water Absorb|Damp|Swift Swim}}
{{ability/entry|062|Poliwrath|Water|Fighting|Water Absorb|Damp|Swift Swim}}
{{ability/entry|116|Horsea|Water|Water|Swift Swim|Sniper|Damp}}
{{ability/entry|118|Goldeen|Water|Water|Swift Swim|Water Veil|Lightningrod}}
{{ability/entry|119|Seaking|Water|Water|Swift Swim|Water Veil|Lightningrod}}
{{ability/entry|129|Magikarp|Water|Water|Swift Swim|None|Rattled}}
{{ability/entry|138|Omanyte|Rock|Water|Swift Swim|Shell Armor|Weak Armor}}
{{ability/entry|139|Omastar|Rock|Water|Swift Swim|Shell Armor|Weak Armor}}
{{ability/entry|140|Kabuto|Rock|Water|Swift Swim|Battle Armor|Weak Armor}}
{{ability/entry|141|Kabutops|Rock|Water|Swift Swim|Battle Armor|Weak Armor}}
{{ability/entry|211|Qwilfish|Water|Poison|Poison Point|Swift Swim|Intimidate}}
{{ability/entry|226|Mantine|Water|Flying|Swift Swim|Water Absorb|Water Veil}}
{{ability/entry|230|Kingdra|Water|Dragon|Swift Swim|Sniper|Damp}}
{{ability/entry|270|Lotad|Water|Grass|Swift Swim|Rain Dish|Own Tempo}}
{{ability/entry|271|Lombre|Water|Grass|Swift Swim|Rain Dish|Own Tempo}}
{{ability/entry|272|Ludicolo|Water|Grass|Swift Swim|Rain Dish|Own Tempo}}
{{ability/entry|283|Surskit|Bug|Water|Swift Swim|None|Rain Dish}}
{{ability/entry|347|Anorith|Rock|Bug|Battle Armor|None|Swift Swim}}
{{ability/entry|348|Armaldo|Rock|Bug|Battle Armor|None|Swift Swim}}
{{ability/entry|349|Feebas|Water|Water|Swift Swim|None|Adaptability}}
{{ability/entry|367|Huntail|Water|Water|Swift Swim|None|Water Veil}}
{{ability/entry|368|Gorebyss|Water|Water|Swift Swim|None|Hydration}}
{{ability/entry|369|Relicanth|Water|Rock|Swift Swim|Rock Head|Sturdy}}
{{ability/entry|370|Luvdisc|Water|Water|Swift Swim|None|Hydration}}
{{ability/entry|418|Buizel|Water|Water|Swift Swim|None|Water Veil}}
{{ability/entry|419|Floatzel|Water|Water|Swift Swim|None|Water Veil}}
{{ability/entry|456|Finneon|Water|Water|Swift Swim|Storm Drain|Water Veil}}
{{ability/entry|457|Lumineon|Water|Water|Swift Swim|Storm Drain|Water Veil}}
{{ability/entry|458|Mantyke|Water|Flying|Swift Swim|Water Absorb|Water Veil}}
{{ability/entry|535|Tympole|Water|Water|Swift Swim|Hydration|Water Absorb}}
{{ability/entry|536|Palpitoad|Water|Ground|Swift Swim|Hydration|Water Absorb}}
{{ability/entry|537|Seismitoad|Water|Ground|Swift Swim|Poison Touch|Water Absorb}}
{{ability/entry|564|Tirtouga|Water|Rock|Solid Rock|Sturdy|Swift Swim}}
{{ability/entry|565|Carracosta|Water|Rock|Solid Rock|Sturdy|Swift Swim}}
{{ability/entry|614|Beartic|Ice|Ice|Snow Cloak|None|Swift Swim}}
{{Ability/foot|Water}}

==In the anime==
{{moveanime|type=water|exp=yes|gen=The user can move faster than usual when it is raining.|image1=Ash Buizel Swift Swim.png|image1p=Buizel|image2=Juan Luvdisc Swift Swim.png|image2p=Luvdisc|image3=Edmund Seismitoad Swift Swim.png|image3p=Seismitoad}}
{{movep|type=water|ms=370|pkmn=Luvdisc|method=While it is raining out, Luvdisc can move extremely fast. It can even speed around above the water while it is raining.}}
{{movemid|type=water|user=Juan|user1=Juan's Luvdisc|startcode=AG111|startname=Eight Ain't Enough|notes=Debut}}
{{movep|type=water|ms=418|pkmn=Buizel|method=Buizel can move extremely fast while it is raining. When it runs, a trail of its colors can be seen behind it.}}
{{movemid|type=water|user=Ash's Buizel|startcode=DP068|startname=A Triple Fighting Chance!}}
{{movep|type=water|ms=537|pkmn=Seismitoad|method=Seismitoad can move extremely fast while it is raining. When it runs, a trail of its colors can be seen behind it.}}
{{movebtm|type=water|user=Edmund|user1=Edmund's Seismitoad|startcode=BW070|startname=The Clubsplosion Begins!}}

==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Battle Frontier manga===
{{movemanga|type=water|exp=yes|gen=The user moves twice as fast when hit by rain.}}
{{movep|type=water|ms=349|pkmn=Feebas|method=Feebas moves twice as fast when it is raining.}}
{{movebtm|type=water|user=Enta (manga)|user1=Enta's Feebas|startcode=CBF4|startname=Introducing the Frontier Brains!|notes=Debut}}

==Trivia==
* The three non-{{type|Water}} Pokémon to have Swift Swim as their Ability have it as a Hidden Ability.

==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{water color}}|bordercolor={{water color dark}}
|zh_cmn=輕快 ''Qīngkuài''
|nl=Snelzwem
|fi=Pikauinti
|fr=Glissade
|de=Wassertempo
|el=Γρήγορο Κολύμπι
|id=Meluncur
|it=Nuotovelox
|ko=쓱쓱 ''Sseuksseuk''
|pt=Nado Rápido
|pt_br=Agilidade na Chuva
|es=Nado Rápido
}}
{{-}}
{{AbilityVariations|Chlorophyll|Swift Swim|Sand Rush|1color={{Grass color dark}}|2color={{Water color dark}}|3color={{Ground color dark}}}}
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}

[[Category:Abilities affected by weather conditions]]
[[Category:Stat raising Abilities]]

[[de:Wassertempo]]
[[es:Nado Rápido]]
[[fr:Glissade]]
[[it:Nuotovelox (abilità)]]
[[ja:すいすい]]
[[pl:Swift Swim (Zdolność)]]
[[pt:Swift Swim]]

Chlorophyll (Ability)

2012-10-22T14:39:54Z

DisgruntledGoat: /* Intro */ swift swim is now most prevalent

{{AbilityInfobox
|name=Chlorophyll
|jpname=ようりょくそ
|jptrans=Chlorophyll
|jptranslit=Yōryokuso
|colorscheme=grass
|gen=3
|text3=Raise Speed in sunshine.
|text4=Boosts the Pokémon’s Speed in sunshine.
|text5=Boosts the Pokémon’s Speed in sunshine.
}}
'''Chlorophyll''' (Japanese: '''ようりょくそ''' ''Chlorophyll'') is an [[Ability]] introduced in [[Generation III]]. Thirty-five [[Pokémon (species)|Pokémon]] can have this Ability—all of which are {{type|Grass}}.

==Effect==
===In battle===
During sunny weather, the {{stat|Speed}} stat of Pokémon with this Ability doubles. This effect lasts until the sunny weather ends.

===Outside of battle===
Chlorophyll has no effect outside of battle.

===Pokémon Mystery Dungeon===
In the {{g|Mystery Dungeon}} series, a Pokémon can use an attack twice in one turn, using only one PP, in sunshine.

==Pokémon with Chlorophyll==
{{Ability/head|Grass}}
{{Ability/entry|001|Bulbasaur|Grass|Poison|Overgrow|None|Chlorophyll}}
{{Ability/entry|002|Ivysaur|Grass|Poison|Overgrow|None|Chlorophyll}}
{{Ability/entry|003|Venusaur|Grass|Poison|Overgrow|None|Chlorophyll}}
{{Ability/entry|043|Oddish|Grass|Poison|Chlorophyll|None|Run Away}}
{{Ability/entry|044|Gloom|Grass|Poison|Chlorophyll|None|Stench}}
{{Ability/entry|045|Vileplume|Grass|Poison|Chlorophyll|None|Effect Spore}}
{{Ability/entry|069|Bellsprout|Grass|Poison|Chlorophyll|None|Gluttony}}
{{Ability/entry|070|Weepinbell|Grass|Poison|Chlorophyll|None|Gluttony}}
{{Ability/entry|071|Victreebel|Grass|Poison|Chlorophyll|None|Gluttony}}
{{Ability/entry|102|Exeggcute|Grass|Psychic|Chlorophyll|None|Harvest}}
{{Ability/entry|103|Exeggutor|Grass|Psychic|Chlorophyll|None|Harvest}}
{{Ability/entry|114|Tangela|Grass|Grass|Chlorophyll|Leaf Guard|Regenerator}}
{{Ability/entry|182|Bellossom|Grass|Grass|Chlorophyll|None|Healer}}
{{Ability/entry|187|Hoppip|Grass|Flying|Chlorophyll|Leaf Guard|Infiltrator}}
{{Ability/entry|188|Skiploom|Grass|Flying|Chlorophyll|Leaf Guard|Infiltrator}}
{{Ability/entry|189|Jumpluff|Grass|Flying|Chlorophyll|Leaf Guard|Infiltrator}}
{{Ability/entry|191|Sunkern|Grass|Grass|Chlorophyll|Solar Power|Early Bird}}
{{Ability/entry|192|Sunflora|Grass|Grass|Chlorophyll|Solar Power|Early Bird}}
{{Ability/entry|273|Seedot|Grass|Grass|Chlorophyll|Early Bird|Pickpocket}}
{{Ability/entry|274|Nuzleaf|Grass|Dark|Chlorophyll|Early Bird|Pickpocket}}
{{Ability/entry|275|Shiftry|Grass|Dark|Chlorophyll|Early Bird|Pickpocket}}
{{Ability/entry|357|Tropius|Grass|Flying|Chlorophyll|Solar Power|Harvest}}
{{Ability/entry|420|Cherubi|Grass|Grass|Chlorophyll|None|None}}
{{Ability/entry|465|Tangrowth|Grass|Grass|Chlorophyll|Leaf Guard|Regenerator}}
{{Ability/entry|470|Leafeon|Grass|Grass|Leaf Guard|None|Chlorophyll}}
{{Ability/entry|540|Sewaddle|Bug|Grass|Swarm|Chlorophyll|Overcoat}}
{{Ability/entry|541|Swadloon|Bug|Grass|Leaf Guard|Chlorophyll|Overcoat}}
{{Ability/entry|542|Leavanny|Bug|Grass|Swarm|Chlorophyll|Overcoat}}
{{Ability/entry|546|Cottonee|Grass|Grass|Prankster|Infiltrator|Chlorophyll}}
{{Ability/entry|547|Whimsicott|Grass|Grass|Prankster|Infiltrator|Chlorophyll}}
{{Ability/entry|548|Petilil|Grass|Grass|Chlorophyll|Own Tempo|Leaf Guard}}
{{Ability/entry|549|Lilligant|Grass|Grass|Chlorophyll|Own Tempo|Leaf Guard}}
{{Ability/entry|556|Maractus|Grass|Grass|Water Absorb|Chlorophyll|Storm Drain}}
{{Ability/entry|585|Deerling|Normal|Grass|Chlorophyll|Sap Sipper|Serene Grace}}
{{Ability/entry|586|Sawsbuck|Normal|Grass|Chlorophyll|Sap Sipper|Serene Grace}}
{{Ability/foot|Grass}}

==In the anime==
{{moveanime|type=grass|exp=yes|gen=The user can move faster than usual when the sunlight is bright.|image1=Gardenia Cherubi Chlorophyll.png|image1p=Cherubi}}
{{movep|type=grass|ms=420|pkmn=Cherubi|method=When the sunlight is bright, Cherubi can move faster than usual.}}
{{movebtm|type=grass|user=Gardenia|user1=Gardenia's Cherubi|startcode=DP037|startname=The Grass Menagerie!|notes=Debut}}

==Trivia==
* Every Pokémon with this ability is Grass-type and thus weak to {{t|Fire}}-type attacks. This is ironic because that is the type of attack that sunlight boosts.

==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{grass color}}|bordercolor={{grass color dark}}
|zh_cmn=葉綠素 ''Yèlǜsù''
|nl=Chlorofyl
|fi=Yhteytys
|fr=Chlorophyle
|de=Chlorophyll
|gr=Χλωροφύλλη
|id=Klorofil
|it=Clorofilla
|pt=Clorofila
|es=Clorofila
|ko=엽록소 ''Yeoprokso''
|ro=Clorofila
}}
{{-}}
{{AbilityVariations|Chlorophyll|Swift Swim|Sand Rush|color=Grass|1color={{Grass color dark}}|2color={{Water color dark}}|3color={{Ground color dark}}}}
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}

[[Category:Abilities affected by weather conditions]]
[[Category:Stat raising Abilities]]

[[de:Chlorophyll]]
[[fr:Chlorophyle]]
[[it:Clorofilla (abilità)]]
[[ja:ようりょくそ]]
[[pl:Chlorophyll (Zdolność)]]

Talk:Darmanitan (Pokémon)

2012-10-19T12:16:24Z

DisgruntledGoat: /* Zen Mode artwork? */ new section

{{Forme info|555{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 2}}|1=Z}}.png|Fire|{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 2}}|0=fire|1=psychic}}|[[Form differences#Darmanitan|Darmanitan's forms]]|Darmanitan as though it were in either its Standard Mode or Zen Mode. However, this cannot be accurately reproduced here|the type-themed color displays, the [[Effort values|EV yield]] shown on the page itself, the base stats entry which is unhidden, the type effectiveness entry which is unhidden, and the moves noted as [[Same-type attack bonus|STAB]] for this Pokémon|time the article isn't edited for more than a week}}

==Physiology==
Hihidaruma is a mainly red, squat ape-like Pokémon. Hihidaruma has long, bushy flame-colored eyebrows, curled at the beginning portions, and round, black-ringed eyes. The upper portion of its tan-colored face is separated from the lower portion by a diagonal stripe of red, and its large mouth sports spiked teeth. All these facial features give the impression of a manic or angered expression, and Hihidaruma’s head has no discernible neck to distinguish it from the rest of the body and its rounded back, which culminates in a stubby tail. It has long arms with spiky hair fringes on the wrists and large tan-colored hands, with a similar arrangement for its hind limbs. Additionally, Hihidaruma’s underside sports a patterning of three tan-colored ovals. [[User:Steph|Steph]] 18:52, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:Done. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:58, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

== Name Origin ==

I think this way would be a more complete origin:
Hihidaruma is a portmanteau of the words 狒狒 ''hihi'', baboon, 火だるま ''hidaruma'', body covered with flames and 達磨 ''daruma'', the Daruma Doll. [[User:KurowaSan|KurowaSan]] 06:12, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Shouldn't this be added?:
火 ''hi'' also means fire, refering to its type. --[[User:Pokequaza|Pokequaza]] 06:38, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

==Darumakka==
Pre-evolution almost guaranteed to exist. But I guess we wait until confirmation? --[[User:Element03|Element03]] 04:18, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

like always... [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 04:24, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

== Daruma Sprite ==

Can anyone pute this image into the page. [[File:555Z.png]]

== Daruma Mode and EVs ==

Do we know how the EVs work? It says Attack and Special Attack are swapped but is that really the case? If you EV-trained in Attack and Hihidaruma switches to Daruma mode, do those EVs get transferred to special attack?
In other words, Atk/SpAtk would be 203/30 base in normal mode if Attack is maxed. In Daruma Mode does this go to 30/203, or 93/140?
:The EVs themselves wouldn't transfer, but that's a moot point anyway, since four EVs equals one extra stat point (unless that changed in B/W). Whatever the Attack stat is after the EV training would then become the Special Attack stat in Daruma Mode, and vice versa. [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 13:55, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::What about the defense change though? It seems like the actual attack and spatk stats aren't just swapped, only the base stats change. [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] 18:59, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

== Daruma mode = Dharma mode? ==

The Daruma doll, after all, is based off of {{wp|Bodhidharma}} so maybe the "Daruma mode" of Hihidaruma's found in the desert could be seen as Hihidaruma achieving enlightenment like Bohdidharma and succesive dharmas did? --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 18:24, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

:Fixed your link. And that's actually an interesting observation. Perhaps that should go in its Origin section? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 20:34, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
::My link was broken...? Weird. I doubled checked that link. Ah well. Anyway, this observation was made when I was researching Daruma dolls (I'll tell you on dA if you're interested why) and it should definitely go into the "Origin" section because I've been finding a few deeper bases for certain Pokemon. The current "Origin" section does not give enough of a thought to the "Dharma mode" idea. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 01:15, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

== It may be a bit of a stretch, but possible Daruma Mode origin; ==

This just occurred to me yesterday while I was playing Pac-Man. Perhaps Hihidaruma's Daruma Mode Forme is at least partly based off of a Pac-Man ghost when Pac-Man eats a power pellet. Look at the similarities; First, there's appearances; Daruma Mode Hihidaruma is blue with blank eyes and a closed, zigzaggy mouth. When a ghost in Pac-Man turns edible, it becomes blue, its eyes go blank, and it gains a zigzaggy mouth. Not to mention, when a ghost becomes edible, they become slower. When Hihidaruma enters Daruma Mode, its speed becomes virtually nonexistant. And the ghosts, when they become edible, they stop taking the offensive and become more defensive, as they can no longer harm Pac-Man. Similarly, when Hihidaruma changes form, its Attack plummets and its defenses go way up. Now, at this point, or perhaps even earlier, you may have been wondering, "But if Daruma Mode is based off a Pac-Man ghost, why isn't it a Ghost-type?" I think I have the answer to this as well. Originally, Pac-Man ghosts weren't actually referred to as ghosts, but as monsters. And there's no specific type for monsters. Also, unlike the arguments I've seen for the "like a moth to a flame" stuff for Ulgamoth, Pac-Man is Japanese in origin, so it isn't that {{p|farfetch'd}} for a Pokémon to be based off of some element of the game, am I right?

So what do you guys think? Is this good for the Origin section? Or the Trivia section at least? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 11:09, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
:That makes no sense whatsoever [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 12:22, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
::It makes some sense. Even more considering somebody important in Nintendo's (forgot which) favorite video game character is Pac-Man. It's [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig A]]! [[User talk:Turtwig A|My talk]] or [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|wiki edits]] 12:23, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
:::It makes sense, except for one thing. ''Why'' would Hihidaruma be based on a Pac-Man ghost? The appearance is the only thing to draw those similarities. No dex info, etc. backs it up. I don't know, perhaps the appearance is enough to deserve mention, but it seems like a bit of a stretch to me. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:18, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
::::I agree that it's a stretch but I do think it's a possibility.. it could explain not the design of either forme but the actual inspiration for the change/transition from one to the other. I mean, Hihidaruma (as Ken would have known it) could have been designed simply as a pure fire-type initially and then later drawn inspiration from Pac-Man for Daruma mode, or even the other way around! Basically, I agree with Missigno. Master in so far as it's a ''possibility'' but there may be no connection. Very good find though, probably worth a Trivia mention! [[User:Oshawhat?|Oshawhat?]] 23:00, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

==Hacking Normal Darmanitan==

Apparently hacking a normal Darmanitan with Zen Mode is strange. After it triggers, the ability changes back to Sheer Force. [[User:Jimmyt26|Jimmyt26]] 22:28, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

== Flare Blitz ==

Could it be noted that Flare Blitz, when combined with Sheer Force, Sunny Day, an item that raises the attack of fire type moves, the STAB, Using Bulk Up a few times and the fact Darmanitan has the strongest physical attack of all fire types is probably the strongest Flare Blitz that any Pokemon can use? I managed to knock out a Gyarados of the same level just by using it, it makes the move super power full. [[User:Buizel1991|Buizel1991]] 16:37, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
:No, not really. We list the most possible damage that can be inflicted on Shuckle's page, but that is about it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:49, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

== Switch not working? ==

None of the switches on the page appear to be working. Although this article has not been edited for weeks, the move table does not show Psychic as being a STAB move, Zen Mode Darmanitan does not appear in the evobox, and none of the templates have a Psychic type border. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 15:42, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
:Both the revisionday and currentday magic words are day of the month. So it doesn't work as it would initially appear to across months. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:18, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
::Though it does have the advantage of showing Normal mode for a couple of days even if we hit a dry spell :).--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 23:00, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

==Related to the wise==
I don't know if anyone attended, but when Darmanitan becomes Zen mode, it hands hold its head like if it were closing its ears, the mouth becomes closed, and the eyes don't have pupils like if they were closed. My point is... Where have we seen this before?
The three wise monkeys, Panpour, Pansear and Pansage! I don't know if he is related to the trio but I think we should add this on Trivia. [[User:Igor Castro Chucre]]

==Regarding shiny Zen Mode Darmanitan==
If Zen Mode is Darmanitan's Hidden Ability, only obtainable from the [[Pokémon Dream World]] and you cannot get a shiny Pokémon from the Dream World, doesn't that mean that it's technically impossible to get a shiny Zen Mode Darmanitan without hacking? [[User:KyuremsIceBlade|KyuremsIceBlade]] ([[User talk:KyuremsIceBlade|talk]]) 22:36, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Never mind... I just figured out the answer... [[User:KyuremsIceBlade|KyuremsIceBlade]] ([[User talk:KyuremsIceBlade|talk]]) 22:41, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

== Zen Mode artwork? ==

So is there still no official Sugimori artwork for Darmanitan's Zen Mode? Where exactly is the artwork obtained from, anyway? [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] ([[User talk:DisgruntledGoat|talk]]) 12:16, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

April Fools' Day 2012

2012-06-06T11:15:25Z

DisgruntledGoat: It's not notable that a site *didn't* run an April Fools

{{incomplete}}
April 1, 2012 was an {{wp|April Fools' Day}} that fell on a Sunday. In the Pokémon fandom, many websites pulled hoaxes on gullible fans.

==Hoaxes==

===Fansites===
====Bulbagarden====
* [[Bulbanews]] posted {{n|Leaked document reveals upcoming games|an article about several leaked upcoming games}} which included [[Pokémon Battrio]] for the [[Nintendo 3DS]] and a "demake" of {{2v2|Black|White}} for the original [[Game Boy]], along with a fake trailer for the game created by Pokémon hacker Koolboyman.
* The Anime Forum also released a list of fake anime episodes which included the return of Giovanni and a battle between him and Ash.
* Bulbagarden forums were redesigned to become '''NOT Bulbagarden''', with the forum taking on a look and theme of ''2001: A Space Odyssey'' as though the fake announcement of the Bulbagarden forums moving away from Pokémon talk had just recently taken place.

====Other fan sites====

* [[Psypoke]] had shaking rainbow-colored text on the front news page along with a constant line of [[Bidoof]] marching down the page.
* [[PKMNcast.com]] followed last year's example and became distorted with images and signs of [[Missingno.]] The banner had an image of Missingno. on it, with various parts of the website were missing and the colors were changed.
* [http://veekun.com veekun] was taken over by a [[Treecko]] and was renamed to "treekun", taking on the look and feel of Treecko's colors.
* [[Pokécharms]] was rebranded as "KyruemCharms" with the slogan "We're PINGAS and proud of it".
* [http://www.pokecardex.com/ Pokecardex] was taken over by Panini Cards, with the site transformed into Panini's imagery.
* [[Dogasu's Backpack]] took on the look and theme of 1997 as though the airing of the first episode of the [[anime]] was about to take place.
* [[Marriland Forums|Pokémon Marriland]] changed "Pokémon" to "Pocketmon" on every page of the site. Also, many icons and sprites were replaced with those of [[Bidoof (Pokémon)|Bidoof]], but the names of the Pokémon remained the same. In addition, a supposed [[Keldeo (Pokémon)|Keldeo]] event that began April 1st was announced on the site.
* [[Pokemon Database]] replaced all Pokemon sprites with those of [[Missingno.]] and distorted the header, as if Missingno. has corrupted the site.

==Miscellaneous==

*This date marked the fifteenth anniversary of the [[Pokémon anime]].

{{April Fools'}} 
{{Project Fandom notice}}
[[Category:Events]]

April Fools' Day 2012

2012-06-06T11:14:03Z

DisgruntledGoat: /* Other fan sites */ added Pokemon Database

{{incomplete}}
April 1, 2012 was an {{wp|April Fools' Day}} that fell on a Sunday. In the Pokémon fandom, many websites pulled hoaxes on gullible fans.

==Hoaxes==

===Fansites===
====Bulbagarden====
* [[Bulbanews]] posted {{n|Leaked document reveals upcoming games|an article about several leaked upcoming games}} which included [[Pokémon Battrio]] for the [[Nintendo 3DS]] and a "demake" of {{2v2|Black|White}} for the original [[Game Boy]], along with a fake trailer for the game created by Pokémon hacker Koolboyman.
* The Anime Forum also released a list of fake anime episodes which included the return of Giovanni and a battle between him and Ash.
* Bulbagarden forums were redesigned to become '''NOT Bulbagarden''', with the forum taking on a look and theme of ''2001: A Space Odyssey'' as though the fake announcement of the Bulbagarden forums moving away from Pokémon talk had just recently taken place.

====Other fan sites====

* [[Psypoke]] had shaking rainbow-colored text on the front news page along with a constant line of [[Bidoof]] marching down the page.
* [[PKMNcast.com]] followed last year's example and became distorted with images and signs of [[Missingno.]] The banner had an image of Missingno. on it, with various parts of the website were missing and the colors were changed.
* [http://veekun.com veekun] was taken over by a [[Treecko]] and was renamed to "treekun", taking on the look and feel of Treecko's colors.
* [[Pokécharms]] was rebranded as "KyruemCharms" with the slogan "We're PINGAS and proud of it".
* [http://www.pokecardex.com/ Pokecardex] was taken over by Panini Cards, with the site transformed into Panini's imagery.
* [[Dogasu's Backpack]] took on the look and theme of 1997 as though the airing of the first episode of the [[anime]] was about to take place.
* [[Marriland Forums|Pokémon Marriland]] changed "Pokémon" to "Pocketmon" on every page of the site. Also, many icons and sprites were replaced with those of [[Bidoof (Pokémon)|Bidoof]], but the names of the Pokémon remained the same. In addition, a supposed [[Keldeo (Pokémon)|Keldeo]] event that began April 1st was announced on the site.
* [[Pokemon Database]] replaced all Pokemon sprites with those of [[Missingno.]] and distorted the header, as if Missingno. has corrupted the site.

==Notes==
* [[Serebii.net]] decided not to partake in anything special in regards to April Fools like [[April Fools' Day 2011|the year before]]. Serebii.net Forums announced the system for Members to change their user names. This was believed to be a Hoax by several members. Previously this ability was regularly requested to staff to be added.

==Miscellaneous==

*This date marked the fifteenth anniversary of the [[Pokémon anime]].

{{April Fools'}} 
{{Project Fandom notice}}
[[Category:Events]]

Bulbapedia talk:Project Fandom/Archive 1

2012-04-03T00:28:27Z

DisgruntledGoat: /* Hoax pokemon? */

Errrm... well, where can we go with this? It definitely shouldn't include nonnotable sites, like some geocities site that got established yesterday, but certainly well-known and popular ones like {{g|Zeo!}} and [[Serebii.net]]... and for sure Bulbagarden and other members of EP. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:10, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

:I think we've got enough 'notable' fansites to make a project, but even then it seems a little weird for an idea... I dunno why, it just does. (After all, after making this project I think we'd see a lot of 'LOL HERE'S A SITE ____ MADE JUST YESTERDAY AND WE WANT VISITORS'.. we're a Wiki, not the classified section. (Someone, I know, someone'll bring up the link in my siganture. Shhhhh.) {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 19:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::Pf, here's a difference between you advertising your site on talk pages in your signature with a single character and making an entire page about a three-day-old site. The problem is... where do we draw that line? I mean, I personally know of Legendary Pokémon, PA!, Zeo, Sugarshock, TR's Rockin, Psypoke, Serebii, Veekun, Smogon, Pokecharms, Marriland... and of course Bulbagarden. What other sites are there, anyway? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:26, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Pokemopolis, Pokémon Crater, Pokesho, Dogasu's Backpack, PokeBeach, PPN. And is PA! Pokeani or something else? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 19:32, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::How about.... Pokegym, '''Pokemon''', Go-Pokemon, and Pokemon-Games. --[[User:Groudon465|Groudon465]][[User talk:Groudon465|Talk]] 19:38, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::The official sites pass the notability test, if not technically fitting the definition of "fan sites". --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 19:50, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::PA!'s [[Pokémon Aaah!]]... you know, that old site. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Never heard of it before. But then, it looks like it was closed before I ventured out beyond Pokémon Crater. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 14:26, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::I found a site called Pokémon World Online and it is a MMO (Massive Multiplayer Online) if has been heard of before maybe it could get added. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 20:09, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::[[Pokémon World Online|Got it already]] :D — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 02:14, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::: Would fan-made full games fall under this category? --[[User:Sting the Trainer|Sting the Trainer]] 01:10, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

== Another site... ==

I found another site that a bunch of people on forums (including bulbapedia's) are into. It is some egg-hatching site called Global PokédeX Plus. (http://gpxplus.net/) -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 03:18, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Spriting ==

I don't believe we have an article on Pokémon Spriting or Pokémon Fusions. Since the images made using these methods are made by fans, would it fall under the Fandom section? {{unsigned|AuraGaurdian}}

== Hoax pokemon? ==

Should there be a list of hoax pokemon that had wide coverage? Pikablu and Gazellezag come to mind. (I know the former redirects to Marill.) -- [[User:Stillnotelf|stillnotelf]] [[User talk:Stillnotelf|is invisible]] 03:07, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
: Apart from Pikablu I don't think any are particularly notable, nor did they gain widespread "belief" that they were real. Serebii has a list of fakemons on it somewhere. [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] 00:28, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

== PKMNcast ==
This site currently has original articles and an audio podcast (It's Super Effective) and a video podcast (Critical Hit) it's a great site. [http://www.pokemonpodcast.com/ PKMNCast] -[[User:DJZoSo|DJZoSo]]
:The article has been made a while ago as [[It's Super Effective (podcast)]]. Additionally, a redirect page for website itself ([[PKMNcast.com]]) has also been added. [[User:BulbaPediaAid|BulbaPediaAid]] 02:51, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon Tower Defense ==

Alright, so I tried to talk to SnorlaxMonster about this, who redirected me to Saturn Yoshi, who hasn't responded to me for a long time. So I have now come her, hoping for response, asking whether or not I can create a page for Pokemon Tower Defense. For all of those who do not know the game I can give you a link.
[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/566150] Please respond [[User:BrokenMotor|BrokenMotor]] 03:13, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

== Something inexplicably absent! ==

Back when pokemon first came out in the states, something...bizarre happened on AOL: Battlers, for lack of a better term. These were user-made program ("progz." I dont miss the 90s.) that would use chat inputs to generate text-based battles between players. These were as strange as it sounds like, but even moreso because they were ridiculous.

I recall three of them, all of which functioned in the same manner: probably the most advanced was "Pokemon Lightning," whos creator I cannot recall. The most widely used and praised, was one whos name I cant recall, but whos creator went by the named "Coolkid" or some corruption of it. This one had the interesting trait that all the pokemon were essentially equal...Except the ridiculous powerful, game-breaking Pikachu. There was a third battler as well, but i cant even remember what it looked like, just that it didnt work.

While these may not be especially notable now, they were at the time. And the concept is bizarre to the point that I think it should be here...

...I just have no idea WHERE. [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] 11:59, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

== Another site - Pokémon Papercraft ==

[http://www.pokemonpapercraft.net Pokémon Papercraft] - a site with really cool paper models of pokemon. (Currently there are 279 of 649; new model every week). I think it is very original among numerous fan-sites. Do you think it deserves an article? [[User:Ruxax|Ruxax]] 21:33, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

== Website notability requirements ==

Hi everyone, is there a clear set of requirements for notability with regards to websites? An article I created, [[Pokemon Database]] was recently deleted for being non-notable, but it is one of the most popular fan sites in the world today. Several other fan site pages exist that don't seem remotely notable. Some seem to be called notable for being the biggest Pokemon fan site in France in 2003 (of course, an unverified claim). Can we have some basic guidelines? [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] 15:45, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
:I'll add to this what I mentioned on my talk page. For some evidence of popularity check rankings on alexa.com i.e. [http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/pokemondb.net]. Compare to other popular sites on the graph, [http://i.imgur.com/whTS2.jpg here's an example] with some other well-known fansites. Even if you take their numbers with a pinch of salt, [[Pokemon Database]] is clearly amongst those sites. [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] 00:24, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

== Pokefarm.org ==

This is a very notable site, with over 100,000 accounts on it. Is that enough for an article? I feel it is, but I'm not (yet) a part of this project, so I won't make it. [[User:Youngril|Youngril]] 00:18, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
:Oh, and also: "Pokefarm.org is ranked #57,750 in the world according to the three-month Alexa traffic rankings." [[User:Youngril|Youngril]] 00:27, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Bulbapedia talk:Project Fandom/Archive 1

2012-04-03T00:24:19Z

DisgruntledGoat: /* Website notability requirements */ evidence

Errrm... well, where can we go with this? It definitely shouldn't include nonnotable sites, like some geocities site that got established yesterday, but certainly well-known and popular ones like {{g|Zeo!}} and [[Serebii.net]]... and for sure Bulbagarden and other members of EP. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:10, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

:I think we've got enough 'notable' fansites to make a project, but even then it seems a little weird for an idea... I dunno why, it just does. (After all, after making this project I think we'd see a lot of 'LOL HERE'S A SITE ____ MADE JUST YESTERDAY AND WE WANT VISITORS'.. we're a Wiki, not the classified section. (Someone, I know, someone'll bring up the link in my siganture. Shhhhh.) {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 19:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::Pf, here's a difference between you advertising your site on talk pages in your signature with a single character and making an entire page about a three-day-old site. The problem is... where do we draw that line? I mean, I personally know of Legendary Pokémon, PA!, Zeo, Sugarshock, TR's Rockin, Psypoke, Serebii, Veekun, Smogon, Pokecharms, Marriland... and of course Bulbagarden. What other sites are there, anyway? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:26, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Pokemopolis, Pokémon Crater, Pokesho, Dogasu's Backpack, PokeBeach, PPN. And is PA! Pokeani or something else? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 19:32, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::How about.... Pokegym, '''Pokemon''', Go-Pokemon, and Pokemon-Games. --[[User:Groudon465|Groudon465]][[User talk:Groudon465|Talk]] 19:38, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::The official sites pass the notability test, if not technically fitting the definition of "fan sites". --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 19:50, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::PA!'s [[Pokémon Aaah!]]... you know, that old site. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Never heard of it before. But then, it looks like it was closed before I ventured out beyond Pokémon Crater. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 14:26, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::I found a site called Pokémon World Online and it is a MMO (Massive Multiplayer Online) if has been heard of before maybe it could get added. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 20:09, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::[[Pokémon World Online|Got it already]] :D — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 02:14, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::: Would fan-made full games fall under this category? --[[User:Sting the Trainer|Sting the Trainer]] 01:10, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

== Another site... ==

I found another site that a bunch of people on forums (including bulbapedia's) are into. It is some egg-hatching site called Global PokédeX Plus. (http://gpxplus.net/) -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 03:18, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Spriting ==

I don't believe we have an article on Pokémon Spriting or Pokémon Fusions. Since the images made using these methods are made by fans, would it fall under the Fandom section? {{unsigned|AuraGaurdian}}

== Hoax pokemon? ==

Should there be a list of hoax pokemon that had wide coverage? Pikablu and Gazellezag come to mind. (I know the former redirects to Marill.) -- [[User:Stillnotelf|stillnotelf]] [[User talk:Stillnotelf|is invisible]] 03:07, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

== PKMNcast ==
This site currently has original articles and an audio podcast (It's Super Effective) and a video podcast (Critical Hit) it's a great site. [http://www.pokemonpodcast.com/ PKMNCast] -[[User:DJZoSo|DJZoSo]]
:The article has been made a while ago as [[It's Super Effective (podcast)]]. Additionally, a redirect page for website itself ([[PKMNcast.com]]) has also been added. [[User:BulbaPediaAid|BulbaPediaAid]] 02:51, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon Tower Defense ==

Alright, so I tried to talk to SnorlaxMonster about this, who redirected me to Saturn Yoshi, who hasn't responded to me for a long time. So I have now come her, hoping for response, asking whether or not I can create a page for Pokemon Tower Defense. For all of those who do not know the game I can give you a link.
[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/566150] Please respond [[User:BrokenMotor|BrokenMotor]] 03:13, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

== Something inexplicably absent! ==

Back when pokemon first came out in the states, something...bizarre happened on AOL: Battlers, for lack of a better term. These were user-made program ("progz." I dont miss the 90s.) that would use chat inputs to generate text-based battles between players. These were as strange as it sounds like, but even moreso because they were ridiculous.

I recall three of them, all of which functioned in the same manner: probably the most advanced was "Pokemon Lightning," whos creator I cannot recall. The most widely used and praised, was one whos name I cant recall, but whos creator went by the named "Coolkid" or some corruption of it. This one had the interesting trait that all the pokemon were essentially equal...Except the ridiculous powerful, game-breaking Pikachu. There was a third battler as well, but i cant even remember what it looked like, just that it didnt work.

While these may not be especially notable now, they were at the time. And the concept is bizarre to the point that I think it should be here...

...I just have no idea WHERE. [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] 11:59, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

== Another site - Pokémon Papercraft ==

[http://www.pokemonpapercraft.net Pokémon Papercraft] - a site with really cool paper models of pokemon. (Currently there are 279 of 649; new model every week). I think it is very original among numerous fan-sites. Do you think it deserves an article? [[User:Ruxax|Ruxax]] 21:33, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

== Website notability requirements ==

Hi everyone, is there a clear set of requirements for notability with regards to websites? An article I created, [[Pokemon Database]] was recently deleted for being non-notable, but it is one of the most popular fan sites in the world today. Several other fan site pages exist that don't seem remotely notable. Some seem to be called notable for being the biggest Pokemon fan site in France in 2003 (of course, an unverified claim). Can we have some basic guidelines? [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] 15:45, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
:I'll add to this what I mentioned on my talk page. For some evidence of popularity check rankings on alexa.com i.e. [http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/pokemondb.net]. Compare to other popular sites on the graph, [http://i.imgur.com/whTS2.jpg here's an example] with some other well-known fansites. Even if you take their numbers with a pinch of salt, [[Pokemon Database]] is clearly amongst those sites. [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] 00:24, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

== Pokefarm.org ==

This is a very notable site, with over 100,000 accounts on it. Is that enough for an article? I feel it is, but I'm not (yet) a part of this project, so I won't make it. [[User:Youngril|Youngril]] 00:18, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Karate Chop (move)

2012-04-03T00:19:26Z

DisgruntledGoat: list type change under Effect, like other similar pages

{{MoveInfobox|
n=2 |
name=Karate Chop |
jname=からてチョップ |
jtranslit=Karate Choppu |
jtrans=Karate Chop |
gameimage=Karate Chop.png |
type=Fighting |
damagecategory=Physical |
basepp=25 |
maxpp=40 |
power=50 |
accuracy=100 |
category=Tough |
appeal=3 |
jam=0 |
cdesc=Affected by how well the appeal in front goes. |
appealsc=3 |
scdesc=A basic performance using a move known by the Pokémon. |
pokefordex=Karate%20Chop |
gen=I|
touches=yes |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=no |
snatch=no |
mirrormove=yes |
kingsrock=yes |
flag7=yes |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
target=anyadjacent |
footnotes= }}
'''Karate Chop''' (Japanese: '''からてチョップ''' ''Karate Chop'') is a damage-dealing {{type2|Fighting}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation I]].

==Effect==
===Generation I===
Karate Chop deals damage and has an increased [[critical hit]] ratio. It is {{type2|Normal}} in this generation.

===Generation II and on===
Karate Chop is now a {{type2|Fighting}} move.

==Description==
{{incomplete|section|Colo and XD description}}
{{movedesc|fighting}}
{{movedescentry|Stad|A <sc>Normal</sc>-type attack. Often turns into a critical hit and inflicts double the damage.}}
{{movedescentry|Stad2|A <sc>Fighting</sc>-type attack. Often turns into a critical hit and inflicts double the damage.}}
{{movedescentry|GSC|Has a high critical hit ratio.}}
{{movedescentry|RSE|A chopping attack with a high critical-hit ratio.}}
{{movedescentry|FRLGDPPtHGSS|The foe is attacked with a sharp chop. It has a high critical-hit ratio.}}
{{movedescentry|BW|The target is attacked with a sharp chop. Critical hits land more easily.}}
|}
|}{{left clear}}

==Learnset==
===By [[Level|leveling up]]===
{{Moveheader/Level|Fighting|1}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|056|Mankey|1|Fighting|Fighting|15|15|15|FRLG=11|13|13|'''||No STAB in Gen I}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|057|Primeape|1|Fighting|Fighting|15|15|15|FRLG=11|13|13|'''||No STAB in Gen I}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|066|Machop|1|Fighting|Fighting|--|13|13|10|10|'''||No STAB in Gen I}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|067|Machoke|1|Fighting|Fighting|--|15|13|10|--, 10|'''||No STAB in Gen I}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|068|Machamp|1|Fighting|Fighting|--|15|13|10|--, 10|'''||No STAB in Gen I}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|539|Sawk|1|Fighting|Fighting|no|no|no|no|25|'''}}
{{Movefooter|Normal}}

===By {{pkmn|breeding}}===
{{Moveheader/Breed|Fighting|2}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|239|Elekid|1|Electric|Electric|{{MSP|066|Machop}}{{MSP|067|Machoke}}{{MSP|068|Machamp}}|{{MSP|066|Machop}}{{MSP|067|Machoke}}{{MSP|068|Machamp}}|{{MSP|066|Machop}}{{MSP|067|Machoke}}{{MSP|068|Machamp}}|{{MSP|066|Machop}}{{MSP|067|Machoke}}{{MSP|068|Machamp}}{{MSP|539|Sawk}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|240|Magby|1|Fire|Fire|{{MSP|066|Machop}}{{MSP|067|Machoke}}{{MSP|068|Machamp}}|{{MSP|066|Machop}}{{MSP|067|Machoke}}{{MSP|068|Machamp}}|{{MSP|066|Machop}}{{MSP|067|Machoke}}{{MSP|068|Machamp}}|{{MSP|066|Machop}}{{MSP|067|Machoke}}{{MSP|068|Machamp}}{{MSP|539|Sawk}}}}
{{Movefooter|Fighting|2}}

==In the anime==
{{moveanime|type=fighting|exp=yes|gen=The opponent is hit by the side of the user's hand.|image1=Machop Karate Chop.png|image1p=Machop|image2=Gavin Machamp Karate Chop.png|image2p=Machamp|image3=Stephan Sawk Karate Chop.png|image3p=Sawk|image4=Chuck Machoke Karate Chop.png|image4p=Machoke}}
{{movep|type=fighting|ms=066|pkmn=Machop|method=Machop repeatedly chops the opponent with the side of its opened hand, or Machop's arm glows white and it chops the opponent with the side of its opened hand.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Machop (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer's Machop|startcode=EP029|startname=The Punchy Pokémon|notes=Debut}}
{{movemid|type=fighting|user=Brawly|user1=Brawly's Machop|startcode=AG031|startname=Just One of the Geysers}}
{{movemid|type=fighting|user=Emily (Kanto)|user1=Emily's Machop|startcode=AG140|startname=Sitting Psyduck}}
{{movep|type=fighting|ms=068|pkmn=Machamp|method=Machamp repeatedly chops the opponent with its hands, or one of Machamp's hands glow white and it chops the opponent with the side of its open hand.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Giovanni (anime)|user1=Giovanni's Machamp|startcode=EP063|startname=The Battle of the Badge}}
{{movemid|type=fighting|user=Gavin|user1=Gavin's Machamp|startcode=AG127|startname=From Brags to Riches}}
{{movemid|type=fighting|user=Emily (Kanto)|user1=Emily's Machamp|startcode=AG140|startname=Sitting Psyduck}}
{{movep|type=fighting|ms=067|pkmn=Machoke|method=Machoke hands glow white and it strikes the opponent with the side of its open hand, sometimes repeatedly.}}
{{movemid|type=fighting|user=Wobbuffet Festival crashers|user1=A Wobbuffet Festival crasher's Machoke|startcode=EP173|startname=Wobbu-Palooza!}}
{{movemid|type=fighting|user=Chuck|user1=Chuck's Machoke|startcode=EP209|startname=Machoke, Machoke Man!}}
{{movep|type=fighting|ms=539|pkmn=Sawk|method=Sawk's hand glows white and it strikes the opponent with the side of its open hand.}}
{{movebtm|type=fighting|user=Stephan's Sawk|user1=Stephan's Sawk|startcode=BW070}}

==In the manga==
===Pokémon Adventures===
{{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user karate chops the opponent.|image1=Blue Machamp Karate Chop.png|image1p=Machamp}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=068|pkmn=Machamp|method=Machamp strikes the opponent with the side of one of its open hands.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=normal|user=Blue's Machamp|startcode=PS040|startname=A Charizard... and a Champion|notes=Debut}}

==In other generations==
{{Movegen|
type=Fighting|
genI=Karate Chop Y|
genII=Karate Chop II|
genIII=Karate Chop III|
genIV=Karate Chop IV|
}}

==Trivia==
* Karate Chop is one of the four moves to have its type changed in [[Generation II]]; the others are {{m|Gust}}, {{m|Bite}}, and {{m|Sand-Attack}}. Coincidentally, they all were {{type2|Normal}} moves in [[Generation I]].

==In other languages==
{{Langtable|color={{fighting color}}|bordercolor={{normal color dark}}
|zh_cmn=手刀 ''{{tt|Shǒudāo|Knife Hand}}''
|nl=Karate schop
|fi=Karateisku
|fr=Poing-Karaté
|de=Karateschlag
|el=Χτύπημα Καράτε
|id=Pukulan Karate
|it=Colpokarate
|ko=태권당수 ''Taegweon Dangsu''
|pl=Cios karate
|pt=Corte karatê
|sr=Karate Udarac
|es=Golpe Karate
}}

{{Karate Chop}}
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}
[[Category:Moves with a high critical-hit ratio]]
[[Category:Normal-type moves]]

[[de:Karateschlag]]
[[es:Golpe Karate]]
[[fr:Poing-Karaté]]
[[it:Colpokarate (mossa)]]
[[ja:からてチョップ]]
[[pl:Karate Chop]]
[[pt:Karate Chop]]

User talk:DisgruntledGoat

2012-04-01T21:42:26Z

DisgruntledGoat: /* April Fools 2012 */

Toxic Spikes (move)

2012-04-01T19:22:10Z

DisgruntledGoat: /* Effect */ Grammar plus clarification on additional layers

{{MoveInfobox|
n=390 |
name=Toxic Spikes |
jname=どくびし |
jtrans=Toxic Spikes |
jtranslit=Doku Bishi |
gameimage=Toxic Spikes.png |
type=Poison |
damagecategory=Status |
basepp=20 |
maxpp=32 |
power=— |
accuracy=— |
bdesc= Damages switching opponents.|
gen=IV |
category=Smart |
appeal=2 |
jam=0 |
cdesc=The Pokémon appealing after self cannot raise its voltage that turn.|
appealsc=2 |
scdesc=Prevents the Voltage from going up in the same turn. |
pokefordex=Toxic%20Spikes |
touches=no |
protect=no |
magiccoat=yes |
snatch=no |
brightpowder=no |
kingsrock=no |
flag7=yes |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
target=foes|
footnotes=
}}
'''Toxic Spikes''' (Japanese: '''どくびし''' ''Toxic Spikes'') is a non-damaging {{type2|Poison}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation IV]].

==Effect==
Toxic Spikes sets an [[List of moves that cause entry hazards|entry hazard]] around the target Pokémon. One layer of Toxic Spikes causes opposing Pokémon to acquire the {{status|Poison}} status ailment upon switching in, while two layers causes opposing Pokémon to become {{status|Poison|badly poisoned}}. More than two layers has no effect; the incoming Pokemon receives the same bad poisoning.

Toxic Spikes has no effect against {{type2|Flying}}, {{type2|Poison}}, {{type2|Steel}} Pokémon or Pokémon with the [[ability]] {{a|Immunity}}, {{a|Levitate}}, or {{a|Magic Guard}}. If a Poison-type Pokémon that is not also a Flying-type or have the ability Levitate is switched in, it will absorb Toxic Spikes and the effect of Toxic Spikes will end. Also, if a Poison-type Pokémon holding the item [[Iron Ball]] or switching in while {{m|Gravity}} is in effect that is also a Flying-type or has the ability Levitate is switched in, it will absorb Toxic Spikes. However, Flying and Levitating Pokémon are affected under {{m|Gravity}}, while holding [[Iron Ball]], or if {{m|Baton Pass}}ed an {{m|Ingrain}}. The moves {{m|Rapid Spin}} and {{m|Defog}} remove the effect of Toxic Spikes; Rapid Spin removes Toxic Spikes set around the Rapid Spinner while Defog removes Toxic Spikes set around the target of Defog. Toxic Spikes does not activate the ability {{a|Synchronize}} unless a Pokémon on the field directly causes Synchronizing Pokémon to switch in, such as by using the moves {{m|Roar}} or {{m|Whirlwind}}.

===Generation V===
Toxic Spikes can now be reflected with {{m|Magic Coat}}.

==={{pkmn|Mystery Dungeon}}===
Toxic Spikes creates a [[dungeon tiles|Toxic Spikes trap]] underneath the user. Any Pokémon that steps on a Toxic Spikes will be poisoned. The trap is hidden until a Pokémon activates it and has no effect on the user or allies. However, Toxic Spikes tile cannot be layed under one-tile ways and the entrance of a room.

==Description==
{{movedesc|Poison}}
{{movedescentry|DPPtHGSS|The user lays a trap of poison spikes at the foe's feet. They poison foes that switch into battle.}}
{{movedescentry|BW|The user lays a trap of poison spikes at the opponent's feet. They poison opponents that switch into battle.}}
|}
|}{{left clear}}

==Learnset==
===By [[Level|leveling up]]===
{{Moveheader/Level|Poison|4}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|015|Beedrill|2|Bug|Poison|25|25|}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|029|Nidoran♀|1|Poison|Poison|31|31|}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|030|Nidorina|1|Poison|Poison|35|35|}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|032|Nidoran♂|1|Poison|Poison|31|31|}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|033|Nidorino|1|Poison|Poison|35|35|}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|072|Tentacool|2|Water|Poison|15|15|}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|073|Tentacruel|2|Water|Poison|15|15|}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|091|Cloyster|2|Water|Ice|--|--|}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|205|Forretress|2|Bug|Steel|--|--|}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|211|Qwilfish|2|Water|Poison|21|21|}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|315|Roselia|2|Grass|Poison|28|28|}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|451|Skorupi|2|Poison|Bug|34|28||PtHGSS=28}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|452|Drapion|2|Poison|Dark|34|28||PtHGSS=28}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|568|Trubbish|1|Poison|Poison|no|7|}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|569|Garbodor|1|Poison|Poison|no|--, 7|}}
{{Movefooter|Poison|4}}

===By {{pkmn|breeding}}===
{{Moveheader/Breed|Poison|4}}
{{Moveentry/Breed4|048|Venonat|2|Bug|Poison|{{MSP|015|Beedrill}}{{MSP|205|Forretress}}{{MSP|451|Skorupi}}{{MSP|452|Drapion}}|{{MSP|015|Beedrill}}{{MSP|205|Forretress}}{{MSP|451|Skorupi}}{{MSP|452|Drapion}}|}}
{{Moveentry/Breed4|138|Omanyte|2|Rock|Water|{{MSP|072|Tentacool}}{{MSP|073|Tentacruel}}{{MSP|091|Cloyster}}{{MSP|451|Skorupi}}{{MSP|452|Drapion}}|{{MSP|072|Tentacool}}{{MSP|073|Tentacruel}}{{MSP|091|Cloyster}}{{MSP|451|Skorupi}}{{MSP|452|Drapion}}|}}
{{Moveentry/Breed4|167|Spinarak|2|Bug|Poison|{{MSP|015|Beedrill}}{{MSP|205|Forretress}}{{MSP|451|Skorupi}}{{MSP|452|Drapion}}|{{MSP|015|Beedrill}}{{MSP|205|Forretress}}{{MSP|451|Skorupi}}{{MSP|452|Drapion}}|}}
{{Moveentry/Breed4|204|Pineco|1|Bug|Bug|{{MSP|015|Beedrill}}{{MSP|205|Forretress}}{{MSP|451|Skorupi}}{{MSP|452|Drapion}}|{{MSP|015|Beedrill}}{{MSP|205|Forretress}}{{MSP|451|Skorupi}}{{MSP|452|Drapion}}|}}
{{Moveentry/Breed4|543|Venipede|2|Bug|Poison|no|{{MSP|015|Beedrill}}{{MSP|205|Forretress}}{{MSP|451|Skorupi}}{{MSP|452|Drapion}}|}}
{{Movefooter|Poison|4}}

==In the anime==
{{moveanime|type=poison|exp=yes|gen=An orb is launched into the air. The orb then divides into multiple spikes that hit the floor. Anyone who touches the floor is poisoned.|image1=Paul Drapion Toxic Spikes field.png|image1p=The field|image2=Paul Drapion Toxic Spikes effect.png|image2p=Affecting Pokémon|image3=Paul Drapion Toxic Spikes.png|image3p=Drapion|image4=Trubbish Toxic Spikes.png|image4p=Trubbish}}
{{movep|type=poison|ms=452|pkmn=Drapion|method=Drapion opens its mouth and a dark purple orb forms inside it. It then fires the ball into the air, which spirals and releases four small streams of purple smoke from the top of the ball. The orb then explodes, forming into multiple smaller orbs that fall and sink into the battlefield. The smaller orbs leave trails of purple smoke behind them as they fall. Any Pokémon that steps on the battlefield besides the user, their body becomes surrounded by purple static and purple waves and indigo bubbles rise from the ground over the opponent's body, damaging them.}}
{{movemid|type=poison|user=Paul|user1=Paul's Drapion|startcode=DP187|startname=A Real Rival Rouser!|notes=Debut}}
{{movep|type=poison|ms=568|pkmn=Trubbish|method=Trubbish opens its mouth and a dark purple orb forms inside it. Trubbish then fires the orb into the air, leaving behind purple streams of energy behind it as it does. The orb then explodes in the air and smaller magenta orbs with a dark purple aura around them fall to the battlefield and sink into the ground. When the orbs sink into the ground, they leave behind a ring of magenta energy for a moment. When the opponent steps on where the orbs of energy sank into the ground, a small explosion occurs under its feet and a ring of purple energy expand outwards, damaging it.}}
{{movebtm|type=poison|user=Trubbish (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Trubbish|startcode=BW012|startname=Here Comes the Trubbish Squad!}}

==In the manga==
===Pokémon Adventures===
{{movemanga|type=poison|exp=yes|gen=The user shoots poisonous spikes onto the ground that poisons any enemy that comes in contact with them.|image1=Qwilfish Toxic Spikes Adventures.png|image1p=Qwilfish}}
{{movep|type=poison|ms=211|pkmn=Qwilfish|method=Qwilfish puffs its body up like a balloon and its spikes grow larger as well. It then releases a pulse of energy off its body and multiple energy beams rain off its body onto the battlefield all around the opponent. The energy beams sink into the ground and become invisible. If the opponent steps on where the energy beams went into the ground, a dark goo oozes out of the ground and poisons the opponent. When the opponent switches to another Pokémon, dark three prong spikes come out of the ground and stab into the opponent's feet, hurting it.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=poison|user=Qwilfish (Pokémon)|user1=The Battle Factory's Qwilfish|startcode=PS427|startname=VS. Seedot|notes=Debut}}

==In other generations==
{{Movegen|
type=Poison|
genIV=Toxic Spikes IV|
}}

==In other languages==
{{Langtable|color={{poison color}}|bordercolor={{poison color light}}
|zh_cmn=毒尖釘 '' Dújiān Dīng''
|fr=Pics Toxik
|de=Giftspitzen
|el=Τοξικές Άκανθοι
|it=Fielepunte
|ko=독압정 ''Dok Apjeong''
|pl=Toksyczne Kolce
|no=Giftnåler
|pt=Espinhos Tóxicos
|es=Púas Tóxicas
|nl=Gifstekels}}

{{Spikes|Poison}}
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}

[[de:Giftspitzen]]
[[fr:Pics Toxik]]
[[it:Fielepunte (mossa)]]
[[ja:どくびし]]
[[pl:Toxic Spikes]]
[[pt:Toxic Spikes]]

User talk:DisgruntledGoat

2012-04-01T19:07:50Z

DisgruntledGoat: /* April Fools 2012 */

User talk:Muk-a-matic

2012-04-01T16:20:06Z

DisgruntledGoat: Undo revision 1638096 by DisgruntledGoat (talk)

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Ok, ok, just calm down, lol. I was typing while stressed. Sorry.--[[User:Muk-a-matic|Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round...]] 18:40, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

== Blue's Hair ==

Your comments are bordering on spam. Please don't comment on a talk page unless you're contributing to the discussion, thanks. —[[User:Oz|'''オ''']][[User talk:Oz|'''ッ''']][[Special:Contributions/Oz|'''ズ''']] @ 05:53, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

I just wanted everyone to stop cursing so no one gets blocked for violating policies. Can't help being compassionate.--[[User:Muk-a-matic|Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round...]] 06:05, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:Cursing is not against policy. Now if you're telling someone to hang themselves and die, that would be violating the Code of Conduct. But just saying the {{tt|f word|since you seem to be sensitive about it.}} isn't really against policy. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 06:07, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
I did not know that. Thanks,TTKirlia!--[[User:Muk-a-matic|Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round...]] 06:11, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

== Talk pages ==

notably, stop using them so much. you have been here since July 2009 and you have made '''3 edits''' to the mainspace, and they were on the '''same page''' and '''they were reverted''' effectively giving you '''ZERO EDITS''' to the mainspace. all you do is throw comments around, a lot of them dont even seem to be relevant. notably, {{tt|i|or you know, anyone}} really dont like when im talking to a specific user about a specific topic, and i get an edit conflict because someone steps on my toes, especially if they do it to [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Getsuei&curid=95964&diff=1011028&oldid=1011025&rcid=1086104 make a joke]. if you want to make chat, joke, and fool around, go to the forums, because on BP, we have work to do. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 07:27, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

== BW036 ==

That wasn't very nice to delete my question. It was valid. Unless a Dragon Buster is someone who hits Dragons in the head with a brick, I think it is a valid question. :--[[User:SuperAipom7|SuperAipom7]] ''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|Questions?]])'' 01:52, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

== I apologize... ==

I am sorry for that outburst about the Dragon Buster thing. I was cranky that night. Please forgive? :--[[User:SuperAipom7|SuperAipom7]] ''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|Questions?]])'' 02:05, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

== Covet's power ==

<s>Are you getting your info from Black & White or an earlier game? Covet's power was changed between the generations I believe. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 01:10, 11 July 2011 (UTC)</s>
:My mistake, misread what you were doing, my apologies. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 01:11, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

== Warnings ==

Just so you know, not everyone checks the recent changes. If you want to tell someone about something, then do it on their talk page. Thank you. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 16:31, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
:Also, screaming in edit summaries is not OK in the least bit. Next time, just say "Site notice says no trivia, please don't add it." If they continue, then you go to their userpage and let them know. There's no need to caps lock rage in the edit summaries. Thanks. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]''
::Please don't threaten bans. Only people that can actually block users should threaten bans (with the exception of junior admins that are in a discussion with someone who can). The decision to block someone is up to the admins. It's not your place to tell admins to block someone. Tell us what they've done, and leave us to decide. Threatening blocks is a rather hostile action. It is better to explain to them why what they are doing is wrong, and that continuing to do it could be considered vandalism. We would rather new users are nurtured to become good users than intimidated and ultimately scared off by an atmosphere of fear. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 00:55, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

== Ash's Torterra edit ==

Kind of curious about the removal of one of the trivia pieces. Do you mean that Gible never defeated Paul any of Paul's Pokemon or just in general? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 21:41, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

== [[User talk:Jimmyo.sirus]] ==

There was no need for that. At all. Instead of yelling at the user, explain to him what not to do. You've been here long enough to know that.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:27, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

== CoC ==

Please take a deep breath and read the {{bp|code of conduct}}. The way [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimmyo.sirus&curid=158704&diff=1632162&oldid=1632039&rcid=1739771 you told this user to discontinue their behavior] was completely unacceptable. It doesn't matter that he was adding false information to pages, yelling at him in ALLCAPS that he's a vandal does help if the user is intentionally vandalizing or not. In this case, the user appeared to be adding speculation, not outright vandalizing the page. Even if the user was a vandal, yelling at them is only going to make things worse, as i just encourages them to do it more, because you gave them the response they were looking for.

Now in regards to the message you left on my talk page, it is not up to you to decide what punishments I give out to users. It is fine to inform me that they are breaking the rules, but not tell me who to permaban and who to warn. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:59, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

== Synopses and summaries ==

First of all, short synopses are okay as long as they cover the entire episode, or the general idea of the episode. They can just be placeholders, since something is better than nothing. But it has to cover the entire episode, and it must be of good quality. But don't just get rid of a synopsis just because it's short.

Secondly, stop using all caps. It makes you looking like you're screaming, and it's ''seriously'' uncalled for. Shouting doesn't help anyone. No one wants to be shouted at, and you wouldn't like someone shouting at you, so don't do it to others. Treat others the way you want to be treated. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 03:37, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

== Spelling ==

I apologize for approaching you about this days after the fact, but I noticed in your recent contributions a couple instances where you seemed to be making somewhat snarky comments in your edit summaries when correcting spellings such as "defence" and "practise."

I just wanted to inform you that these spellings are ''not'' incorrect - they are merely the British spellings of the words, and while we do use American English here on Bulbapedia, that is no reason to berate British editors (or editors of other nationalities that use the British spellings, but in the cases I saw both editors were from England) when "correcting" words that, so far as they are concerned, ''are'' spelled correctly. You need only point out that we use the American spellings and leave it at that.

I wasn't sure if you were aware, so I just thought I'd let you know for in the future! [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 04:25, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

== Website notability ==

Hi, I did reply to your comments on my user page [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:DisgruntledGoat here], but I dont know if you saw it. Anyway let me know what you think. What criteria would you judge website notability on?

User talk:Muk-a-matic

2012-04-01T16:18:16Z

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User talk:Muk-a-matic

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User talk:DisgruntledGoat

2012-04-01T16:11:05Z

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User talk:DisgruntledGoat

2012-04-01T16:09:56Z

DisgruntledGoat: /* April Fools 2012 */

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User talk:DisgruntledGoat

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DisgruntledGoat: /* Few things */ reply to force fire

User talk:Masatoshi/Archive 1

2012-03-24T18:26:10Z

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== Signature ==

Hi there. [[User talk:Jello#Thanks a lot, now...|What I meant]] was to put your username into your signature so that people can tell who you are when they read your comments. Sorry for any confusion. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:40, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

== Templates ==

Please remember in future that you must get permission from an admin before editing templates, especially high-use ones such as {{template|User Champion}}. Thanks. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:48, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

== Disambigs ==

I wouldn't. You're just going to make too many redlinks, which aren't acceptable. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 21:42, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

== Card Update. ==

Types are always capitalized. Grass not grass. No exceptions. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 04:50, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
:Maybe I only checked on one that you had lowercase. If this is the case, no worries. Keep up the good work. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 04:58, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
::Carddex is a dangerous territory. It isn't something you can just copy past from another page. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 05:37, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
:::It's just that each card has a different dex entry, and Japanese entry, and even the older cards have different heights and weights. It is something that needs done separately for each card, and isn't really part of this update. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 05:42, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

== Hey there. ==

Keep up the good work updating those templates. I know a congratulatory word is rare around here, so I just wanted to say that grunt work like that is really appreciated. So yeah. Thanks. --[[User:Politoed666|''P'' ''o'']] [[User talk:Politoed666|''L'' ''i'']] 17:29, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

== BW005. ==

I got it from tv.msn.com, http://tv.msn.com/tv/series.aspx?series=62d49308-0244-4703-a474-64fe2b1a7a8b.

Sorry for the confusion.
:It has been deleted. Also, please remember to use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> after posting your message in a talk page. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 23:07, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

No, still there, http://tv.msn.com/tv/episodeguide.aspx?series=62d49308-0244-4703-a474-64fe2b1a7a8b&ipp=40, http://tv.msn.com/tv/episode.aspx?episode=4916ac04-6ce6-4f1a-aa41-4635d69bb10b.

Although it wasn't there for a bit, it's up there currently.

== ¡felicidades ==

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I asked Google Translator, so I hope that sounds okay. I'd go on and thank you for the hours and hours of manual uploading you are putting into the Archives at the moment, but reading it would take up your valuable time. So I'll just leave this sparkly Porygon on your doorstep and you can play with it when you're finished. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:33, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:I must say it was totally unexpected, but I appreciate the award. Thanks, trom, and the rest of the Archives Advisory Council! Also, it's ''¡felicidades!'' :P [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 18:20, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
::Clap Clap Clap! Good for you!—★[[User:Pika3323|Pika]][[User Talk:Pika3323|3323]] 23:23, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

== Animating ==

Photoshop? I don't think if I can acquiry it... It's not free (at least I don't know if it's free or not)... [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 20:49, 22 February 2011 (UTC) PS.WTF, AnimGet makes VBA run on 7%. That's VERY low speed D: It takes me few seconds just to select Move button >.< [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 21:01, 22 February 2011 (UTC) Ow... About 94 screenshots when Blaze Kick recorded. O-O [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 21:10, 22 February 2011 (UTC) PS.It looks that in Gen III, HP bar doesn't dissappears like in Gen IV. All shots contained HP bar, I deleted shots with moves menu and after Oddish "dissappeared" (moment where it starts to reduce it's HP =P).
:I certainly dunno where... as far as I know, AnimGet hasn't taken a toll on speed for me, the problem might be that you have Frame Skip set to 0, which is what I'd like you to do, I can't even play Platinum, but I do it for the sake of Bulbapedia. :P
:94 screenshots are just as fine, don't expect any move to take less than 70 frames, I even had 300 on one.
:Well, if you use draining moves, such as {{m|Absorb}} or {{m|Giga Drain}}, you'd need to have your Pokémon hurt a bit so we can see the magic of those moves, until they replenish their HP. So, if III doesn't hide the HP bar, the first frame before the move begins is the first frame to stay, the frames before should be deleted. And the first frame after the move ends (with effects as well) should be the last, delete all frames after it. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 21:23, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
::[censor], megaupload says something that my IP address is downloading about 641MB file...EPIC FAIL for IP. >.< Really Adobe is required? Or... maybe trial version is capable of doing things? (rather no =P) [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 15:07, 23 February 2011 (UTC) PS."don't expect any move to take less than 70 frames," - Orly? On Ember, I got 71 WITH counting moves menu screenshots and after effects ended ("blinking", effectiveness sounds, etc.). Without them, I got... 66 screenshots.... [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 15:15, 23 February 2011 (UTC) Dammit, screenshots are 1152x788... [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 20:21, 23 February 2011 (UTC) I hate Photoshop. It wants to save that all screenshots into .gif, not .png >.< [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 20:33, 23 February 2011 (UTC) WHAT? It doesn't save in .gif. It saves in a stupid format, .psd. EVEN MORE EPIC FAIL... Nevermind, restarted and it's .png now. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 20:37, 23 February 2011 (UTC) I accidentally did batch script so that Ember shots are saved under Absorbxxx.png (where xxx is that 3 digit something) lol. I will just upload it as a new version, so name of file here won't change =P Okey done... Just last frame... awww still has animation (there is flame)... Need to do stuff again, for that frame =D [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 20:48, 23 February 2011 (UTC) Finally... about 1 hour, finally created animation. Of Blaze Kick (Ember's one is "corrupted" it looks that few frames are missing). Saving, now uploading. Deleted one frame after animation ended, the one left has 1000ms (it's last) delay, and the frame on top (0th, lol) has 500ms. Nothing seems missing. Now just upload. And then go to bed =P [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 21:01, 23 February 2011 (UTC) PS.Uh what? 2,14 MB file size... damn. And resolution, well Photoshop "distorted" it, it's 240x164, while static would be 240x160... Small difference, but stil difference =P
Can't upload. I press upload, but nothing happens, no session loss data stuff, no log-out, no warning. NOTHING. Just it looks like browser is loading page, but page doesn't changes. And how it's about 2,12MB, while one of yours has about 1/3 of that? [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 21:13, 23 February 2011 (UTC) PS.Okey, I have to go =P

Uploaded Metal Claw animated... I still see old picture below "file, file history" and other stuff, just in other resolution. It didn't synchronized for me =P Also, it's almost 2MB file >.< Wtf, how it's THAT big? [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 08:47, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
:Well, some of the screenshots might be heavier than some others due to reasons a non-ignorant (not me) would understand, but so far, so good, happens to me as well with [[a:File:Acid IV.png|this file]]. Now, you need to edit those summaries, since that file is now animated, you should state so with <code><nowiki>{{anipng}}</nowiki></code>, which will add the file to the following categories: Animated images, Special images and Animated png files. And can you please edit the ''Generation III'' thing? It should link to {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}, {{v2|Emerald}} and {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}} to make it look less ambiguous. That would be it for now. Now, regarding talk pages; would you mind indenting your replies? Instead of just writing after your message, hit Enter and go to a new paragraph, since I used one ''':''', you should use two, I'll use three in my reply, you'll use four, until we need to reset the indentation. This way is a bit less confusing for other people, thanks. :P [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 14:26, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
::Okey, file seems right but... In article, it doesn't animate. It's just that first frame that's is skipped in animation. I _have_ Firefox. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 13:32, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
:::Don't worry, it's normal. When they're thumbnailed, the animation won't play. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 14:03, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
::::Then how to the hell a Metal Claw of generation II IS animated in thumbnail? [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 15:19, 25 February 2011 (UTC) PS.Fly in Generation III also [[Fly (move)#In other generations|animates in thumbnail]].
:::::Because Metal Claw II isn't thumbnailed, it's at full size. And Fly in Generation III is a .gif, that explains the (rather broken) animation. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 15:40, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::Okey, Fly I uploaded. Little slower (55ms instead of 33ms), because it looked like something was missing (part of animation in 2nd stage looked like it was too fast) but checked game, and it seems right... [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 10:23, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::Well, the file looks correct, but mind if I ask you to have a slightly longer pause in the middle? And one more thing, I'm trying to make the animations more... like you're actually playing the game, would you mind using it against a higher leveled Pokémon? The gap between your Pokémon and the Wild Pokémon is a bit too wide. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 11:08, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::::Uh, but it's lvl 70 about, and highest levelled wild in Yellow is 60 (Ditto 1% encounter rate in Cave), and trainer is 65lvl Gary' starter. And Gary has also in range of 50s =P I can't upload Surf. 111 (including that skipped) frames (2,77MB). OUCH. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 11:16, 26 February 2011 (UTC) PS.I made Surf animation before I read your answer =P
:resetting indentation - Well, then try to get the highest leveled Pokémon you can, a twenty-level gap sounds good, but a seventy-level gap is kinda too much :P. Also, if you're making P.S., I'd suggest you to do it like if you were posting a new reply, followed by the signing. 2,77MB? You probably have the saving of the .pngs in the highest quality, I'm not really sure, that'd be the most coherent answer. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 11:35, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

== How do you work so fast?!? ==

Whenever I check the recent changes, someone's making 20 edits in 2 minutes! How do you find all that stuff to edit?!? (I can't seem to find much...) {{unsigned|Pokabu82}}
:Well... I was dwelling around, until I found something on {{template|Movegen}} that needed to be edited, as we can't use .gifs, we should be using .pngs, so I edited that on the template, then I used [[Special:WhatLinksHere|this]], found in the toolbox, that gave me stuff to edit. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 22:49, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

== Posting in dead threads? ==
I am looking and can't find any rules for posting in dead threads including how long it is before a thread is considered dead, if the last post was a month ago and I have a question to add to it is it dead and should I just start a new thread under it? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 07:36, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
:...And why are you bringing this up to me? If this is about the forums, you should go [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/index.php here]. But as far as I know, unless you have a good reason to reply to that thread, you should create a new one. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 07:44, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
::Because you seem knowledgeable in this site's rules? No this isn't a Bulbagarden thread it is a Bulbapedia thread... I guess those aren't called threads then... I always get the terminology mixed up with threads, posts, categories, subcategories, and whatnot... whatever [[User_talk:Masatoshi#Posting_in_dead_threads.3F|this right here]] is called is what I mean by thread. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 07:54, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
:::Talk page, then. Alright. You got me confused in there. {{bp|Talk page policy}} will help you on that, specifically, {{bp|Talk page policy#Talk page etiquette|this}}. It says the following: ''Please check the dates of a discussion before you reply to it. '''Unless there is good reason for revitalizing an old conversation, comments on sections older than six months old will be removed.''' This is because by this point the problems cited will have been cleared up.'' [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 07:57, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
::::Well someone asked a question of which I have the same issue and the response to fix it doesn't seem to work for me, so the problem cited is cleared up for that person, just not for me... '''but''' it is only a month old so I can post there! Also, I didn't quite mean Talk Page, I meant a specific ummm category? in a talk page... so I guess I meant category? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 08:02, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
:::::Every article, category, file and whatnot has a talk page, so I'm sure you're talking about that. Probably you're talking about a section (You know, the headings, like <big><big>Posting in dead threads?</big></big>). And sure, you can go ask, let's hope you can find a proper solution this time. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 08:13, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
::::::No no I was talking about what is in talk pages, but based on your statement what I meant was heading! Though that doesn't sound right... oh well [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Not_being_able_to_Upload I posted] [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 08:20, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

== Template ==

HI Masatoshi, i was wondering if i could use your main template (your background border) for my user page, is this okay? (i will change it a little so it doesn't look carbon-copy and credit you for the original design) [[User:Azure42|Azure/ChromeVoid42]] 17:25, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
:Sure, go for it. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 02:16, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

== Ok ==

If you think a beluga looks like a lugia, you have vision issues. There is no reference to this anyway in the manga or anime or TCG. Also there is NO reference to Lugia and the moon despite popular belief because Ho-oh IS referenced with the sun.
If there is, list it. Thanks.

Just because it has plates it must be a stegosaurus? That is just stupid.

Fix grammar but dont add 101 reasons a name might exist. A wiki is meant to help, not confuse and create argument. --[[User:Since97andOn|Since97andOn]] 23:23, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
:Yes, I have vision issues, but I abide to what might be the most logical relation to what Lugia resembles the most to, whether physiologically or in behavior. Not many of the Pokémon have their origins referenced anywhere in the anime, manga nor TCG, so I don't think it's a valid point, but if you can find a reference to it, then I'll agree with you. I do agree that Lugia wouldn't be really the moon nor a Beluga whale (on which I kind of agree with you); but I'll go with the introduction of the Silver screen, on where he's seen flying in the night with the moon behind, and me being a native Spanish speaker, on which the Lugia name would make sense with the Lu- part. It's not just because it has plates, it's also the shape he has, also shared by another dinosaur, the Plesiosaur. Lugia doesn't look like a Wyver at all, but that's my opinion anyways. Also, please, avoid the use of subjective words such as "Interestingly", since we try to be as neutral as possible. And I do agree that a wiki is meant to help, and not to confuse and create arguments, so I'm sorry if I made you angry, but I hope you understand my reasoning now. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 23:51, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Wow, so because english people "translate" his name way back before there was no moon in the screen, you think that makes sense for the Luna connection?(No it doesn't) You said you agree with me twice by the way about the beluga hah, Your an admin FFS have some sense of duty and remove that gibberish.If your going with best "reasoning" List one example and end it. Why allow many theories? If theories are allowed, I think people need to know how Cubones are baby kangaskan. (That last part is a joke, but hopefully you understand me. I could really care less about these things, but the point of a wiki in the end is meant to inform people. Not lead people to believe Lugia is a Beluga, stegosaurus, plesiosaur and wyvern super hybrid.)Also you dont have vision problems since you atleast see my point about the beluga.:D --[[User:Since97andOn|Since97andOn]] 00:32, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
:Don't forget to indent please. Ok, we've talked about this and we decided to use what trom put in there, I hope this will be able to solve any further disputes. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 06:40, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

== Delete this ==

Can you please {{red link|User:Poke.geek/Usertags|delete this}}, Thanks -- ✔[[User:Poke.geek|'''Poké''']][[User talk:Poke.geek|'''.geek''']][[Special:Contributions/Poke.geek|™]]✔ 19:34, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

== Edit warring ==

I did not start the edit war. Truthseeker did. It's the first reversion that starts the war, not the innocent edit that the reverter disagrees with. I hate to use this example, being a Jew and all, but Hitler didn't declare war by invading Poland. England and France declared war AFTER the invasion. Please understand where I'm coming from--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 22:32, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
:It takes two to edit war, there wouldn't have been a war if England and France didn't stand up for Poland, but that's not the point. I understand you were trying to make a correction, but if it's something that you think might be disagreed with (since the ''BW006-present'' thing was there for quite some time), a talk page could have been better. Starting something like: '''Regarding Joy''', {{bp|Talk page policy#How should a talk page be used?|the talk page policy}} says it may be used to bring up errors, or what you think could be a mistake. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 22:48, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

I did go to a talkpage, and you're giving me no credit for that. Truthseeker just reverted. He reverted me twice before responding to my post.--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 22:57, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
:I meant the article's [[Talk:Emily Jenness‎‎|talk page]], but the user talk page works too. The problem is that you're being passive-aggresive, you are losing it due to a revert. I gave you credit afterwards, but all credit has gone into the sink with the attitude you're showing towards Truthseeker. Keep calm, state calmly why you think this is this, and let the other guy express his opinions, try and reach a consensus, ''calmly''. This is a wiki, not The Fight Club. Also, please indent your comments from now, thank you. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 23:07, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

What attitude could I possibly be showing? I havent been aggressive AT ALL! You're accusing me of things I never did and threatening to block me for it as an intimidation tactic. Please stop--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 23:12, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
:Don't get mad at me, but this message you just gave me sounds like that. I'll still ask you for proof regarding Truthseeker's lack of CoC, so I can properly judge this situation if you feel it's being biased enough. And as I said, I'm sorry to make you feel threatened, but my duty is to resolve disputes, even if they have to go down the block. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 23:21, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

So I have no right to react to being explicitly threatened because I try to edit a simple encyclopedia page? How is that right?--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 23:26, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
:It's more of a warning I'm giving to you, you are welcome to edit the wiki (as I saw you do a few minutes ago with Diamond, and I loved that), but not welcome to revert repeatedly without stating the facts on why you think his edit is wrong in a talk page. According to a fellow Junior Admin, {{u|Turtwig A}}'s edit summary in the page: '''''No offense, but they mean the same thing, and BW006-Present is much more clearer imo.''''' And then said: ''Should it be noted that no other Officer Jenny has appeared since that time?'' [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 23:44, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Stop using the same exact thing that's been refuted three tims now. It's a moot point. You have not used anything to counter my reasoning--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 00:02, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
:I didn't want to get into this discussion, but now it seems inevitable considering I've been mentioned in here already. The bigger question is here is, why does it matter yet? Technically, from all we know, she did take over all the Jenny{{tt|s|I think that's how you go with names at least}}, since as I said earlier, ''those are all the Jennys that have been seen since that point.'' Since they are all of them since that point, it technically is a takeover from all Jenny voice actresses, and thus should be considered so until proven otherwise since the BW006-Present part indicates all Jenny that have appeared during that time, which are all Unova ones. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 00:14, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
::I'd like to point out that it still implies that she now voices Jennys of the other regions, which is speculation. My POV stems from the two different Jennys of A Secret Sphere of Influence. Two different regions, two different Jennys, two different voices. If anything, I think a good compromise would be ([[Unova]]-native, BW006-present). Anyone disagree?--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 00:36, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
:::Yes. [[User:Truthseeker4449|Truth]][[User talk:Truthseeker4449|seeker]][[Special:Contributions/Truthseeker4449|4449]] 00:43, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
::::Pretty rude to disagree without a reason. How is that way bad? Because someone ELSE who was new decided to incorporate their ideas?--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 00:51, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
:::::I think he and everyone else pretty much gave their reasons. You're just not accepting it. Last time a Jenny outside Unova appeared was in the Diamond and Pearl series. No other kind of Jenny appeared since so what it is saying is not incorrect. When one does reappear with an actress other than Emily Jenness we can change it promptly. We can tell for sure at this point. As of BW006, all of the Jennys so far are voiced by Emily Jenness. And like I said, if or when it changes we will promptly specify. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:37, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

== The Preview Button ==

I do that but when I finish the correct edit, I find something else wrong with the article. I try my best not to edit several times. I've clicked that preview button way more times than how many times I have edited [[Sinnoh Route 213]] on record. --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] 18:59, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

==Well...==
I see I placed a welcome message in the wrong namespace. Well, sorry 'bout that—it seems I was hyped to get the edit increment from welcoming someone that I erred in placing it correctly. I'll be paying closer attention to that, okay? Thanks. '''—[[User:AlexTheRose|Дlεχ]][[User_talk:AlexTheRose|Thε]][[Special:Contributions/AlexTheRose|Rσϛε]]''' 23:48, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
:You know talk page edits don't count, right? I'm glad that you're trying to give a warm welcome to the new Bulbapedians, but I wouldn't count on making that my only means of contributing to the wiki. :P [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 23:51, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
::I plan on editing whatever mainspace stuff floats around, but I find it somewhat rewarding to create an enormous table out of 17 characters, so don't expect me to leave new accounts' talk pages empty. Also, I'll bear in mind what you said about templates, as I don't think I read that in the [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style|MoS]]. Thanks again! '''—[[User:AlexTheRose|Дlεχ]][[User_talk:AlexTheRose|Thε]][[Special:Contributions/AlexTheRose|Rσϛε]]''' 00:11, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Sounds fair enough to me, don't curb your enthusiasm! [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 00:17, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

== Question ==

And how can I archive my page ?
Plus I've seen other user talk pages and they do not have the welcome template. [[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 13:39, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
:There's a little tab above (user page, discussion, those) that is used to move pages, you move it to somewhere else (like User talk:DJWolfy/Archive 1), but I'd wait until I got more content in that talk page before archiving it, however you're free of moving it now if you want. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 13:45, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

How about the welcome template ? I can still move it legit in the same way ?
And btw,how could I make my user talk a bit decorated ? I mean I would like to make it like it would be inside a blue square.Is there a link to page decorating or something ? I mean with templates and others,like the welcome template.
--'''DJWolfy'''. 13:48, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
:Also, indent comments with colons, please. You can move your current talk page, with all the revisions and such to your archived talk page. Well, in order for you to have a decorated talk page, you need a basic understanding of wikicode (it's not hard), you can either create them (it's always better), get permission from the original owner of the template you'd like to use, or you could study others' and see how you can make it better suited to your tastes. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 13:58, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

::Ok,thank you,well I like your user page,but I would like it in blue style.Can I use it ? And if yes,how can I make it blue ?--'''DJWolfy'''. 14:13, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Sure, just say who made the original userpage. :P - In order to have a blue userpage, you're gonna have to do a lot of Ctrl + F and change the templates {{template|white color}} and {{template|black color}} and their lightness to blue, you're gonna have to do a lot of previewing though. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 14:31, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

::::I'll check it out,where should I write the original userpage creator?--'''DJWolfy'''. 14:41, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
::::On the other hand,do you still have the entire script saved somewhere on your computer?It would be much easier.--'''DJWolfy'''. 14:42, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::Wherever you want, and the script is actually my user page. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 14:43, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

::::::I know,but I meant to say without the text.Anyway,where can I get templates like "This user is a male" or "This user is intelligent" etc. ?
:::::::[[:Category:Personal information tags]]. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 15:01, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

::::::::Thank you!--'''DJWolfy'''. 15:14, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::No problem, feel free to edit to your heart's content, but don't forget to contribute to the mainspace often. ;) [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 15:32, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

::::::::::::Btw can you give me the script for this ? "© (flip it) 2011 - Masatoshi, all rights (lol wiki) reserved." so I can put you there,because I just can't find a right place to put your username.It always places itself at personal information,the one with the Eye color thing.Thank you!And what exactly is the mainspace?--'''DJWolfy'''. 15:38, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::::The script is all there, in my userpage, also, {{bp|Mainspace#Main namespace|this}} is the mainspace. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 17:13, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

::::::::::::::Oh,that one,well I've made quite a few edits in the Trivia Section of some episodes.--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 17:18, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
:Resetting indentation. Yeah, but trivia alone won't do, you need to do more manteinance, fix stubs, improve articles, fix misspellings ({{bp|Editor's Hub|try this page}}), you know, broaden your limits, don't limit yourself to trivia (because that's not really encouraged). [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 17:23, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

::I'll take that in consideration.Thank you. --[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 17:39, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

:::Hello again,and sorry for disturbing,but there is just one small template thing that is bothering me.On my userpage as you can see the box in which is writen "A Piece Of Information" is grey or white dark.Since you made the original page,do you know how it can be fixed to other colour ? I've tried countless times and I just couldn't change it.--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 14:38, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
::::I assume you mean the part on where my nick is shown? It's a black color. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 16:19, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
== Today in History ==

I'm curious, does contributing to its development count toward Userspace edits? I know that articles destined for the mainspace don't count toward it, but I'm pretty sure TiH is headed for the Template namespace. Come to think of it, that's a rather sizable loophole. Any thoughts?--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 21:12, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
:No. Besides, even if it were, the one at fault would be trom if he edited that page often, and we wouldn't be allowed to edit what would be his user (sub)page. Templates or articles that go for the wiki overall are a bit looser unless they're a high-use template, which are protected from normal users to edit. And besides, trom has asked us to help him complete it, so I don't really see a loophole if we're helping in creating something to be used by the main page itself, well, unless we spammed it with non-relevant content or spam. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 21:19, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

==EP066==
There's something wrong at the article of [[EP066]]. There's a sentence and it's not fully made. So, can you fix it? It's partailly removed. --[[User:Station7|Station7]] 19:36, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
:Where exactly? I can't see it... [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 21:23, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
::Fixed it already--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 21:27, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Ah, just checked in the history, thank you, then. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 21:31, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

== 'v ==

I am confused as to why you deleted this. It is notible because it is obtainable without cheating. And if you really wanted more info you could have just asked me, all I do is glitch work. Could you please undo it? --[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 17:27, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
:In any case, I could have asked {{u|SnorlaxMonster}}, since he's the head of the GlitchDex Project. I deleted that article because of two reasons:
:# There was no info known about that glitch, the article itself said that (''''v''' is a glitch Pokémon. Aside from that not much is known about it). That was it. That alone shouldn't let this article be able to exist unless it had more information about it.
:# It had been created before but being deleted afterwards, providing almost the same reason for its deletion, it had been done very poorly.
:So no, I can't and '''''won't''''' undo it. If you want to recreate it, please do so in your user space; create a subpage for it, and when we see the article is notable enough then we'll move it to the mainspace. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 15:32, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
::Alright then, I just wanted to see what it had but thats the shitty part of being a normal user... I'll do a full-quality redo of it then on the page. If you don't know me (which you probably don't), I usually only do large-scale edits, such as everything ive done in project Glitchdex. So, it most likely will be notable then. Also, {{u|SnorlaxMonster}} is usually pretty busy, so asking me for that stuff would be taking some off his load. Thanks --[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 02:24, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
:::It's done now so check [['v|it]] out.--[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 03:07, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Alright, it looks much better now. I definitely see no problems with this one. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 04:03, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, the page as it existed before really didn't say anything. Masatoshi was wrong about "it doesn't meet the requirements for notability", but I wasn't online at the time for him to ask. It was so incomplete that I would have deleted it too anyway though. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:20, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

== I feel terrible ==

You'll notice my new userpage construction is basically yours and DJWolfy. It's obviously not ready. I meant to build it first, ask, then submit, but I pressed Save page instead of show preview. I promise, besides the obvious information customizations to change dimensions, colors and shapes so it wouldn't be the exact same. I just hope you and DJWolfy can give me your blessing.--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 17:53, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
:I have no problem with that, as long as you don't make your userpage your only reason to edit Bulbapedia, you'll be alright. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 15:32, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

== Well then ==

My apologizes, I didn't know, I was just trying to help out. Plus I don't know how to check the user's activity. --[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 13:14, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
:[[Special:Contributions|This page]] will help. You can either type in the nick OR go to the user page (or user talk page), and check the toolbox found in the left of the site, linking to "User contributions". I know you were trying to help out, but let them do that in their space. :P [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 14:06, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
::I still don't know how to fix the template.and btw this clock thing code It is currently '''{{#time: G|+2 hours}}:{{#time: i|+2 hours}}''' in my time zone.<div class="plainlinks">[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:DJWolfy?action=purge [Update time]]</div>make my characters from my page smaller :|,what seems to be the problem ?
:::The <nowiki></nowiki> tag, you need to close it. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 19:26, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Thanks Masatoshi ! You've been a real help since I've joined Bulbapedia.I'm in your debt.--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 19:31, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::You're welcome. You can pay the debt with contributing more to the wiki if you like. :) [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 19:35, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::That's exactly what I'm doing,I've completed synopsis for some anime episodes, a couple of chronicles and a pikachu short, plus I'm going to finish the rest of the synopsis then maybe focus on moves' description,depending on my free time.Btw, does the minor edit need to be checked when writing in talk pages or anywhere else ?--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 19:39, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::Not really, though I leave it checked always, since I'm always doing minor edits. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 19:45, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::Well it seems( •_•)
::::::( •_•)>⌐■-■
::::::that this is
::::::(⌐■_■
::::::just a minor matter.
::::::--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 20:05, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

I was wondering... are the awards still given ? Because I recently checked the Bulbapedia awards and the last award was given over a year in january 2011 although it is specified the awards are given quarterly.--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 15:58, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
:There's been discussions about the Bulbapedia Awards for a while, nothing is clear yet, so I can't really know about whether we'll keep on it or not. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 16:30, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
::Well, I always thought rewards motivate people. Especially if given on a prestigious site. But that's just my opinion. --[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 17:15, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

== Stadium 2 Images ==

Could you tell me what the size and name conventions are, and whether I should upload seperate Stadium and Stadium 2 images?--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalk]][[User talk:Chalkwriter|writer]] 18:05, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
:Could you also tell me where the animation should start and finish? Thanks.--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalk]][[User talk:Chalkwriter|writer]] 11:21, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::You bring up a good point, I just talked to {{u|Kogoro}} and it seems we don't really have a MoS on Stadium/2 pictures, we'll discuss it later in the day and I'll get back to you on that. So for the time being, don't animate anything. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 11:43, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Do we have a name and size convention yet, just so I can upload neccesary static images like {{m|Iron Tail}} and {{m|Sandstorm}}?--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalk]][[User talk:Chalkwriter|writer]] 19:38, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Okay name and size convention's set (they've been for a while, actually). [Move] Stad & [Move] Stad2(.png). The size should be the same as the DS games: 256px x 192px. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 01:35, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::Uploaded and added {{m|Swift}} and {{m|Giga Drain}}.
:::::With animating, I have a problem in that I have the .avi file, but converting it to a .gif so I can then turn it into a .png has a drastic reduction of the quality. Do you have any suggestions?--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalk]][[User talk:Chalkwriter|writer]] 20:49, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
::::::Never mind, although the file size seems to be a bit excessive (10,468 KB to be exact).The animation also seems to be half the speed of what it should be. Any ideas on how to speed it up?--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalk]][[User talk:Chalkwriter|writer]] 20:47, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
:::::::After seeing the ''massive'' size of those animations and a brief talk with Kogoro, we decided that they shouldn't be animated in the end. With the animation out of the way, the file size of the attacks can now be 620 × 480 [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 22:11, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Fair enough, although wouldn't it make more sense for the size to be ''640'' x 480, as that is the default size for the screenshots that I can take. Or did you mean to say that in the first place?--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalk]][[User talk:Chalkwriter|writer]] 09:08, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::Well, she meant 620 × 480. So we're taking her words as fact. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 07:59, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::Actually, looks like I made a typo & didn't notice it. Yes, it should be 640 × 480. ^^; - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 12:41, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::If the 3D console images are going to be 640x480, can someone change {{template|Movegen}} so that Stadium images are resized to 300px or less? Cheers. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 20:08, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

== Black & White 2 ==

The [http://www.pokemon.com/uk/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-black-version-2-and-pokemon-white-version-2/ English site] has confirmed the names to be Pokémon Black Version 2 and Pokémon White Version 2. The 2 comes after the word Version. Just letting you know in case you need to protect the pages. - [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] [[User Talk:Blazios|talk]] 00:05, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:They're being protected right now. Thanks for the info. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 00:07, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::Also, since the main page has moved, [[Pokémon Black Version 2 and Pokémon White Version 2]] now redirects to a redirect page, rather than the main page. - [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] [[User Talk:Blazios|talk]] 00:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Yeah, don't worry, I already took care of it. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 00:28, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Why can't BW2 be added to the version mascots article? - [[User:Ericss|Ericss]] 02:00, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:As of now, pretty much everything is speculation. We'd rather wait until we know the official names of Zekrom/Kyurem & Reshiram/Kyurem (who seem to be a new Legendary Pokémon, according to Masuda). [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 02:10, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::Actually, we already know the forms' names. - [[User:Ericss|Ericss]] 14:06, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::According to Masuda, those are new Legendary Pokémon, it doesn't mention they're formes at all. They could be, but let's go for the safest route and wait a little longer, I'll however bring it up once the higher-ups come back so we can discuss it, okay? [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 14:16, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== BW2 colors ==

tc26 already changed the colors so that they didn't have to have the exact same colors as black and white, besides the Blue and red are on the logos.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 13:57, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:Black and White are also there. I honestly don't recall we reached an agreement with the proper color, so for the moment I'm leaving it as black and white. I could be wrong though, but we'll figure this out once {{u|MAGNEDETH}} comes in. I'm gonna leave the infobox for the main game as it is though. Can't be 100% sure. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 13:59, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::Okay, I still think however that Blue and Red would be the best choice so that they don't have to share the same colors with Black and White, but I understand where you are coming from.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 14:00, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::I'd like to add something, mainly I want them to have different colors so they have have a separate identity from BW, but if you guys decide against Blue and Red could you at least bring up the possibility of using a different shade of Black and white, similar to how remakes get a different shade of their color, or maybe even a dark blue that is almost black and a light red that is almost white?[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]]
::::That would be the plan, we'll see what we can do, if the lighter shade doesn't work, then I guess we'd be picking the red and blue tc26 used. If they undo my edits regarding the colors, then I guess we have picked the red and blue (which actually look a lot alike [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|certain side series' games]]). [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 14:16, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::You're right, it does look like those colors, maybe try a different shade of blue and red? If not then I don't think it will mater much as those are separate from the main games, but I still think it would be wise to use a different shade of blue and red for BW2.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 14:20, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::They might not be main series games, but they're still games. :P We'll look into that later. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 14:30, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I thought you were going to keep the info box those colors.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 18:08, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:I kept them until MAGNEDETH came, I asked him, and he told me to delete the templates and remove the colors, since we still haven't decided on the colours, we're waiting for more {{bp|staff}}ers to come in so we can have a proper discussion about it. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 18:25, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::Okey Pokey. Tell me how that goes, or you might not have to because I'll probably see the decision on the page, unless you guys decide on just black and white in which case tell me, please.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 18:45, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::If I could make a suggestion, I think colours similar to the image below would be appropriate, a combination of black and blue for Black 2, and white and red for White 2. The previous set of colours would more appropriate for a Ruby and Sapphire remake, IMO.
:::http://dl.dropbox.com/u/37967548/BW2.png
:::'''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 18:59, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::I think that red is perfect, the blue could be a bit lighter though.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 20:05, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::Okay, we have reached an agreement, and {{u|Umeko}} has just submitted the changes. {{template|Black 2 color}}, {{template|Black 2 color dark}}, {{template|Black 2 color light}}, {{template|White 2 color}}, {{template|White 2 color dark}}, {{template|White 2 color light}}. Our reasoning behind it is that the game should contain black and white, since those are the game names. She overlaid the red and blue from the logos at 5% opacity. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 02:26, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:::The color looks identical to the original. I think you guys should try a bit more than 5%. I'd also like to point out that we used orange for FireRed because the box color was orange.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 09:29, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::Ume tried with 10%, and it looked too reddish-blueish, we had agreed on trying to use Black or White by any means necessary. Also, yes, FireRed uses orange because the box color was orange, we'd be using Black and White for these new games because they're predominantely using Black & White. :P [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 15:05, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
But the logos are Blue and Red. at 5% the black is identical to the basic black and the white is barely different. I'd also like to point out that the official Japanese site is almost entirely blue.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 15:38, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::(Please don't forget to indent your comments) I see the Ice color there, if that's what you're talking about. The logos are Black and White with a touch of Blue and Red, the earlier are still more predominant than the latter. Also, this way we'll prevent people from getting confused over the colors, we don't think it's a good idea to have the Generation V-2 colors look alike the Generation I and Mystery Dungeon: Time and Darkness colors. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 17:35, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::But the colors are still nearly identical to the old ones, look up just a bit and see those colors? The dark blue and light red? They are nothing like the Gen 1 and Mystery dungeon colors. I also think the coloring of the logos is rather important considering there is a huge chunk of colored ice along with a large 2 that is colored. Wait, is there anyway you guys could make it so the words "Black and White" are those colors but the 2's are Blue and Red?[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 19:08, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::Honestly, it doesn't actually matter what colour the logos are. The games are called ''Black'' and ''White'' 2. Their colours ''must'' reflect that. They aren't Navy and Pink versions, so we will not have the blue and red as a significant portion of the colour. They are there as a slight tint to differentiate between the colours for Black and White, which rather obviously are also based on the colours black and white. Also, just one colour set per game. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:26, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::Look at the logos. They have heavily emphasized the Blue and Red with large ice chunks and a large 2. Obviously the name's color doesn't matter if FireRed is Orange. I can tell I'm probably not going to get it anywhere near the way I want it so I guess I'm gonna have to deal with it, my OCD is gonna kill me but I will deal with it(no that is not an attempt to pity you into giving me my why and I just realized it sounded that way but I honestly don't know how else to phrase that XD ), I just wanted them to be differentiated from the original games in the same way that GameFreak is doing it, with Blue and Red.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 19:40, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::::Look at the Pearl JP logo. It has green, so it obviously must be changed to green, don't you think so? The Red and Blue occupy less than 20% of the logo, so it wouldn't make sense to have it as the primary color, seeing that Black & White have the upper hand. I'm sorry, but that's how we decided it should be, since they're still Black & White, they are kept as Black & White, but retrieved from the Blue & Red found in the logo. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 19:45, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::::That Green is a shine and not meant to draw the eye like the Blue and Red of the BW2 logos. I'm not really asking for them to be completely different colors at this point, I just want them to some how be differentiated from the originals in a better way. The red overlay is noticeable on the white but the blue is not at all. Like I said I realize I'm not going to get my why and I can deal with that, all I ask is that the blue tint on the black be turned up just a bit so that it doesn't look identical to the original black, or you guys could just use actual black and actual white for them instead of light grey and dark grey. Also just looked at the logos again and at least for black the blue takes a good 40% of the logo, the red on white is much less though. I don't quite understand why we can't just make the 2's the colors they are in the logo.
This is an incredibly dumb example/thought but what if they come out with something like a "rainbow" version, what would we do then?[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 19:51, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:I'll talk to Umeko again in that case, but mind you, her voice matters here and if she says the colours stay, they stay. If we stumble upon Rainbow version ('''''extremely''''' unlikely), we'll just sit and have a chat, and see what we can do with it. We could use gradients for that case. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 20:31, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
::Lol, I honestly don't expect it to change but thanks anyways.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 20:47, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Well what do you know? :P - Changed again. This time is ''slightly'' bluer and redder, but still retaining their Black & White status. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 02:59, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
::::The Blue still doesn't show up on the black, the color is to dark for an overlay I think XD. But thanks, the white is perfect.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 15:32, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

== Image error ==

Hello again. I was trying to upload an image related to [[AG173]] when suddenly this error did not allow me to continue. "File extension ".png" does not match the detected MIME type of the file (image/jpeg)." What can I do ?--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 20:08, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:What's the filename of your file and what's the desired filename you want in Archives? [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 20:16, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:: This one "http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/210/sudowoodoerror.png/". but still, why do I get the error ? {{unsigned|DJWolfy}}
:::It seems that you had it as a .jpg file, then you renamed it to a .png. Archives won't let you upload files with renamed extension. You could try opening Paint.net or any image editing program you have there, save that image as a .png and then try again. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 15:05, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Well,I took a screenshot then uploaded it.--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 15:07, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::Done,it worked.Btw how do you categorize a file aside from the licensing categorization ?{{unsigned|DJWolfy}}
::::::<nowiki>[[Category:Category you're trying to put the file into]]</nowiki> [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 15:35, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Uhm,and where exactly you put that ?--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 15:49, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::::You put it in the bottom of the file, when you are editing it. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 17:37, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::Summary or file description ?--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 17:54, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::When you edit a file in Archives, you see the code there, it's normally filled with two headers: Summary and Licensing. Put the category tag at the bottom, after Licensing. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 17:57, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::I see,but that is after it is uploaded. I thought that before the upload. Anyway, thanks !--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 18:10, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Is there a page with all the categories ?--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 18:12, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:[[:a:Special:Categories]]. I'd advise you to check other error images and see what its categories are, you'll know where to put them afterwards. Stil, double check the categories you'd be reusing from another error images, just in case. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 18:34, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

::Thanks!--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 18:41, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== Apologies ==

Hi, I wanted to apologize for my mistake on the Pallet Party Panic page and also making 4 consecutive edits. From now on, I will check everything before I make a major edit like that.{{unsigned|Onix-pected}}
:Alright. Make sure you check if the thing you want to add to the article has been discussed in the talk page first, at least important stuff such as anime arcs. Pallet Party Panic is regarded as the last episode of the Indigo League arc, and has been voted as such by consensus in the talk page. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 08:04, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

== Emerald Walkthrough Top Notice ==

I understand why the Emerald walkthrough pages might not need the notice at the top, but it seems to me that it does, at least, serve as a simple, consistent intro throughout the sections. Yet, if the notice is indeed unnecessary, then none of the sections (or only the first page/section) of the walkthrough should have it, right? This isn't currently the case; so let's try to achieve some consistency, with the notice or without. - [[User:Poikins|'''poi''']][[User talk:Poikins|'''kins''']] 07:58, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
:That's something you'll have to discuss in the [[Project Walkthrough]] if you want to get consistency, you'll have to discuss it with the other members or at least propose it to its {{u|KCorp4000|leader}}, since nothing is said about the top of a walkthrough article, it's not really safe to start with a standard by one guy alone and expect everyone else to tag along, I'm not sure if you get the point I'm trying to make. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 08:12, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
::I see your point, although I was not trying to make all the walkthroughs consistent with each other, just the pages for Emerald, since some of them had it while others did not, and it seemed to make more sense to have it than not. I will inquire on the Walkthroughs talk page to get to the bottom of it (although I now see that most, but not all, of the other walkthroughs ''don't'' have it). - [[User:Poikins|'''poi''']][[User talk:Poikins|'''kins''']] 08:41, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

== Project_Fandom ==

Why do you keep reverting my edit on Bulbapedia_talk:Project_Fandom? Where does it say to "not touch talk pages"? And if it does, you are probably misunderstanding what the rule means. I'm just moving the big discussion into a section. If the rule is you can only add new sections then that part should be in a section and should never have been added like that in the first place. [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] 16:05, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
:{{bp|Talk page policy#Talk page etiquette|Wanted proof? Here it is}}. First bullet. {{bp|Talk page policy#How should a talk page be used.3F|This explains what talk pages are for}}. You are not allowed to edit anyone's "crap" because it's ''their'' "crap" and not yours. When I meant to not touch talk pages, I meant to say ''Do not edit other people's comments nor alter them at all''. I'm just following the {{bp|talk page policy}} and enforcing it. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 19:16, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
::Okay, but I wasn't editing any of the actual comments at all, just putting the entire comment block in a section. Like I said, it should have been in a section to start with. You are misunderstanding the purpose of the no edit rule.

Talk:PokéFanon

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== Deletion ==

This site just seems like one of the million low-quality Wikia sites out there (no offence). What actually makes it notable at all? [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] 16:23, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

User talk:Masatoshi/Archive 1

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Talk:Universal Pokémon Network

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== Redirect ==

Since it's unlikely this will ever be more than a stub, why not redirect to [[Big Four]] ? More details about the site could be added there if necessary. [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] 16:02, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon Abode

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== Redirect ==

Since it's unlikely this will ever be more than a stub, why not redirect to [[Big Four]] ? More details about the site could be added there if necessary.

Bulbapedia talk:Project Fandom/Archive 1

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DisgruntledGoat: cleaning up page again, please stop reverting this to the hideous mess it was.

== Discussion ==
Errrm... well, where can we go with this? It definitely shouldn't include nonnotable sites, like some geocities site that got established yesterday, but certainly well-known and popular ones like {{g|Zeo!}} and [[Serebii.net]]... and for sure Bulbagarden and other members of EP. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:10, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

:I think we've got enough 'notable' fansites to make a project, but even then it seems a little weird for an idea... I dunno why, it just does. (After all, after making this project I think we'd see a lot of 'LOL HERE'S A SITE ____ MADE JUST YESTERDAY AND WE WANT VISITORS'.. we're a Wiki, not the classified section. (Someone, I know, someone'll bring up the link in my siganture. Shhhhh.) {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 19:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::Pf, here's a difference between you advertising your site on talk pages in your signature with a single character and making an entire page about a three-day-old site. The problem is... where do we draw that line? I mean, I personally know of Legendary Pokémon, PA!, Zeo, Sugarshock, TR's Rockin, Psypoke, Serebii, Veekun, Smogon, Pokecharms, Marriland... and of course Bulbagarden. What other sites are there, anyway? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:26, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Pokemopolis, Pokémon Crater, Pokesho, Dogasu's Backpack, PokeBeach, PPN. And is PA! Pokeani or something else? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 19:32, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::How about.... Pokegym, '''Pokemon''', Go-Pokemon, and Pokemon-Games. --[[User:Groudon465|Groudon465]][[User talk:Groudon465|Talk]] 19:38, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::The official sites pass the notability test, if not technically fitting the definition of "fan sites". --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 19:50, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::PA!'s [[Pokémon Aaah!]]... you know, that old site. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Never heard of it before. But then, it looks like it was closed before I ventured out beyond Pokémon Crater. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 14:26, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::I found a site called Pokémon World Online and it is a MMO (Massive Multiplayer Online) if has been heard of before maybe it could get added. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 20:09, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::[[Pokémon World Online|Got it already]] :D — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 02:14, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::: Would fan-made full games fall under this category? --[[User:Sting the Trainer|Sting the Trainer]] 01:10, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

== Another site... ==

I found another site that a bunch of people on forums (including bulbapedia's) are into. It is some egg-hatching site called Global PokédeX Plus. (http://gpxplus.net/) -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 03:18, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Spriting ==

I don't believe we have an article on Pokémon Spriting or Pokémon Fusions. Since the images made using these methods are made by fans, would it fall under the Fandom section? {{unsigned|AuraGaurdian}}

== Hoax pokemon? ==

Should there be a list of hoax pokemon that had wide coverage? Pikablu and Gazellezag come to mind. (I know the former redirects to Marill.) -- [[User:Stillnotelf|stillnotelf]] [[User talk:Stillnotelf|is invisible]] 03:07, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

== PKMNcast ==
This site currently has original articles and an audio podcast (It's Super Effective) and a video podcast (Critical Hit) it's a great site. [http://www.pokemonpodcast.com/ PKMNCast] -[[User:DJZoSo|DJZoSo]]
:The article has been made a while ago as [[It's Super Effective (podcast)]]. Additionally, a redirect page for website itself ([[PKMNcast.com]]) has also been added. [[User:BulbaPediaAid|BulbaPediaAid]] 02:51, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon Tower Defense ==

Alright, so I tried to talk to SnorlaxMonster about this, who redirected me to Saturn Yoshi, who hasn't responded to me for a long time. So I have now come her, hoping for response, asking whether or not I can create a page for Pokemon Tower Defense. For all of those who do not know the game I can give you a link.
[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/566150] Please respond [[User:BrokenMotor|BrokenMotor]] 03:13, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

== Something inexplicably absent! ==

Back when pokemon first came out in the states, something...bizarre happened on AOL: Battlers, for lack of a better term. These were user-made program ("progz." I dont miss the 90s.) that would use chat inputs to generate text-based battles between players. These were as strange as it sounds like, but even moreso because they were ridiculous.

I recall three of them, all of which functioned in the same manner: probably the most advanced was "Pokemon Lightning," whos creator I cannot recall. The most widely used and praised, was one whos name I cant recall, but whos creator went by the named "Coolkid" or some corruption of it. This one had the interesting trait that all the pokemon were essentially equal...Except the ridiculous powerful, game-breaking Pikachu. There was a third battler as well, but i cant even remember what it looked like, just that it didnt work.

While these may not be especially notable now, they were at the time. And the concept is bizarre to the point that I think it should be here...

...I just have no idea WHERE. [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] 11:59, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

== Another site - Pokémon Papercraft ==

[http://www.pokemonpapercraft.net Pokémon Papercraft] - a site with really cool paper models of pokemon. (Currently there are 279 of 649; new model every week). I think it is very original among numerous fan-sites. Do you think it deserves an article? [[User:Ruxax|Ruxax]] 21:33, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

== Website notability requirements ==

Hi everyone, is there a clear set of requirements for notability with regards to websites? An article I created, [[Pokemon Database]] was recently deleted for being non-notable, but it is one of the most popular fan sites in the world today. Several other fan site pages exist that don't seem remotely notable. Some seem to be called notable for being the biggest Pokemon fan site in France in 2003 (of course, an unverified claim). Can we have some basic guidelines? [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] 15:45, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Bulbapedia talk:Project Fandom/Archive 1

2012-03-23T15:45:09Z

DisgruntledGoat: /* Website notability requirements */ new section

Errrm... well, where can we go with this? It definitely shouldn't include nonnotable sites, like some geocities site that got established yesterday, but certainly well-known and popular ones like {{g|Zeo!}} and [[Serebii.net]]... and for sure Bulbagarden and other members of EP. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:10, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

:I think we've got enough 'notable' fansites to make a project, but even then it seems a little weird for an idea... I dunno why, it just does. (After all, after making this project I think we'd see a lot of 'LOL HERE'S A SITE ____ MADE JUST YESTERDAY AND WE WANT VISITORS'.. we're a Wiki, not the classified section. (Someone, I know, someone'll bring up the link in my siganture. Shhhhh.) {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 19:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::Pf, here's a difference between you advertising your site on talk pages in your signature with a single character and making an entire page about a three-day-old site. The problem is... where do we draw that line? I mean, I personally know of Legendary Pokémon, PA!, Zeo, Sugarshock, TR's Rockin, Psypoke, Serebii, Veekun, Smogon, Pokecharms, Marriland... and of course Bulbagarden. What other sites are there, anyway? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:26, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Pokemopolis, Pokémon Crater, Pokesho, Dogasu's Backpack, PokeBeach, PPN. And is PA! Pokeani or something else? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 19:32, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::How about.... Pokegym, '''Pokemon''', Go-Pokemon, and Pokemon-Games. --[[User:Groudon465|Groudon465]][[User talk:Groudon465|Talk]] 19:38, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::The official sites pass the notability test, if not technically fitting the definition of "fan sites". --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 19:50, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::PA!'s [[Pokémon Aaah!]]... you know, that old site. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Never heard of it before. But then, it looks like it was closed before I ventured out beyond Pokémon Crater. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 14:26, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::I found a site called Pokémon World Online and it is a MMO (Massive Multiplayer Online) if has been heard of before maybe it could get added. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 20:09, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::[[Pokémon World Online|Got it already]] :D — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 02:14, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::: Would fan-made full games fall under this category? --[[User:Sting the Trainer|Sting the Trainer]] 01:10, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

== Another site... ==

I found another site that a bunch of people on forums (including bulbapedia's) are into. It is some egg-hatching site called Global PokédeX Plus. (http://gpxplus.net/) -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 03:18, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Spriting ==

I don't believe we have an article on Pokémon Spriting or Pokémon Fusions. Since the images made using these methods are made by fans, would it fall under the Fandom section? {{unsigned|AuraGaurdian}}

== Hoax pokemon? ==

Should there be a list of hoax pokemon that had wide coverage? Pikablu and Gazellezag come to mind. (I know the former redirects to Marill.) -- [[User:Stillnotelf|stillnotelf]] [[User talk:Stillnotelf|is invisible]] 03:07, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

== PKMNcast ==
This site currently has original articles and an audio podcast (It's Super Effective) and a video podcast (Critical Hit) it's a great site. [http://www.pokemonpodcast.com/ PKMNCast] -[[User:DJZoSo|DJZoSo]]
:The article has been made a while ago as [[It's Super Effective (podcast)]]. Additionally, a redirect page for website itself ([[PKMNcast.com]]) has also been added. [[User:BulbaPediaAid|BulbaPediaAid]] 02:51, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon Tower Defense ==

Alright, so I tried to talk to SnorlaxMonster about this, who redirected me to Saturn Yoshi, who hasn't responded to me for a long time. So I have now come her, hoping for response, asking whether or not I can create a page for Pokemon Tower Defense. For all of those who do not know the game I can give you a link.
[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/566150] Please respond [[User:BrokenMotor|BrokenMotor]] 03:13, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

== Something inexplicably absent! ==

Back when pokemon first came out in the states, something...bizarre happened on AOL: Battlers, for lack of a better term. These were user-made program ("progz." I dont miss the 90s.) that would use chat inputs to generate text-based battles between players. These were as strange as it sounds like, but even moreso because they were ridiculous.

I recall three of them, all of which functioned in the same manner: probably the most advanced was "Pokemon Lightning," whos creator I cannot recall. The most widely used and praised, was one whos name I cant recall, but whos creator went by the named "Coolkid" or some corruption of it. This one had the interesting trait that all the pokemon were essentially equal...Except the ridiculous powerful, game-breaking Pikachu. There was a third battler as well, but i cant even remember what it looked like, just that it didnt work.

While these may not be especially notable now, they were at the time. And the concept is bizarre to the point that I think it should be here...

...I just have no idea WHERE. [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] 11:59, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

== Another site - Pokémon Papercraft ==

[http://www.pokemonpapercraft.net Pokémon Papercraft] - a site with really cool paper models of pokemon. (Currently there are 279 of 649; new model every week). I think it is very original among numerous fan-sites. Do you think it deserves an article? [[User:Ruxax|Ruxax]] 21:33, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

== Website notability requirements ==

Hi everyone, is there a clear set of requirements for notability with regards to websites? An article I created, [[Pokemon Database]] was recently deleted for being non-notable, but it is one of the most popular fan sites in the world today. Several other fan site pages exist that don't seem remotely notable. Some seem to be called notable for being the biggest Pokemon fan site in France in 2003 (of course, an unverified claim). Can we have some basic guidelines? [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] 15:45, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Bulbapedia talk:Project Fandom/Archive 1

2012-03-23T15:41:40Z

DisgruntledGoat: moving crap from top of page

== Another site... ==

I found another site that a bunch of people on forums (including bulbapedia's) are into. It is some egg-hatching site called Global PokédeX Plus. (http://gpxplus.net/) -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 03:18, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Spriting ==

I don't believe we have an article on Pokémon Spriting or Pokémon Fusions. Since the images made using these methods are made by fans, would it fall under the Fandom section? {{unsigned|AuraGaurdian}}

== Hoax pokemon? ==

Should there be a list of hoax pokemon that had wide coverage? Pikablu and Gazellezag come to mind. (I know the former redirects to Marill.) -- [[User:Stillnotelf|stillnotelf]] [[User talk:Stillnotelf|is invisible]] 03:07, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

== PKMNcast ==
This site currently has original articles and an audio podcast (It's Super Effective) and a video podcast (Critical Hit) it's a great site. [http://www.pokemonpodcast.com/ PKMNCast] -[[User:DJZoSo|DJZoSo]]
:The article has been made a while ago as [[It's Super Effective (podcast)]]. Additionally, a redirect page for website itself ([[PKMNcast.com]]) has also been added. [[User:BulbaPediaAid|BulbaPediaAid]] 02:51, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon Tower Defense ==

Alright, so I tried to talk to SnorlaxMonster about this, who redirected me to Saturn Yoshi, who hasn't responded to me for a long time. So I have now come her, hoping for response, asking whether or not I can create a page for Pokemon Tower Defense. For all of those who do not know the game I can give you a link.
[http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/566150] Please respond [[User:BrokenMotor|BrokenMotor]] 03:13, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

== Something inexplicably absent! ==

Back when pokemon first came out in the states, something...bizarre happened on AOL: Battlers, for lack of a better term. These were user-made program ("progz." I dont miss the 90s.) that would use chat inputs to generate text-based battles between players. These were as strange as it sounds like, but even moreso because they were ridiculous.

I recall three of them, all of which functioned in the same manner: probably the most advanced was "Pokemon Lightning," whos creator I cannot recall. The most widely used and praised, was one whos name I cant recall, but whos creator went by the named "Coolkid" or some corruption of it. This one had the interesting trait that all the pokemon were essentially equal...Except the ridiculous powerful, game-breaking Pikachu. There was a third battler as well, but i cant even remember what it looked like, just that it didnt work.

While these may not be especially notable now, they were at the time. And the concept is bizarre to the point that I think it should be here...

...I just have no idea WHERE. [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] 11:59, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

== Another site - Pokémon Papercraft ==

[http://www.pokemonpapercraft.net Pokémon Papercraft] - a site with really cool paper models of pokemon. (Currently there are 279 of 649; new model every week). I think it is very original among numerous fan-sites. Do you think it deserves an article? [[User:Ruxax|Ruxax]] 21:33, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

== Discussion ==

Errrm... well, where can we go with this? It definitely shouldn't include nonnotable sites, like some geocities site that got established yesterday, but certainly well-known and popular ones like {{g|Zeo!}} and [[Serebii.net]]... and for sure Bulbagarden and other members of EP. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:10, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:I think we've got enough 'notable' fansites to make a project, but even then it seems a little weird for an idea... I dunno why, it just does. (After all, after making this project I think we'd see a lot of 'LOL HERE'S A SITE ____ MADE JUST YESTERDAY AND WE WANT VISITORS'.. we're a Wiki, not the classified section. (Someone, I know, someone'll bring up the link in my siganture. Shhhhh.) {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 19:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::Pf, here's a difference between you advertising your site on talk pages in your signature with a single character and making an entire page about a three-day-old site. The problem is... where do we draw that line? I mean, I personally know of Legendary Pokémon, PA!, Zeo, Sugarshock, TR's Rockin, Psypoke, Serebii, Veekun, Smogon, Pokecharms, Marriland... and of course Bulbagarden. What other sites are there, anyway? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:26, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Pokemopolis, Pokémon Crater, Pokesho, Dogasu's Backpack, PokeBeach, PPN. And is PA! Pokeani or something else? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 19:32, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::How about.... Pokegym, '''Pokemon''', Go-Pokemon, and Pokemon-Games. --[[User:Groudon465|Groudon465]][[User talk:Groudon465|Talk]] 19:38, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::The official sites pass the notability test, if not technically fitting the definition of "fan sites". --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 19:50, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::::PA!'s [[Pokémon Aaah!]]... you know, that old site. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Never heard of it before. But then, it looks like it was closed before I ventured out beyond Pokémon Crater. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 14:26, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::I found a site called Pokémon World Online and it is a MMO (Massive Multiplayer Online) if has been heard of before maybe it could get added. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 20:09, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::[[Pokémon World Online|Got it already]] :D — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 02:14, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::: Would fan-made full games fall under this category? --[[User:Sting the Trainer|Sting the Trainer]] 01:10, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon-France

2012-03-23T15:39:00Z

DisgruntledGoat: /* Deletion */ signing

==Deletion==

Any citation for "biggest Pokemon fan site in France"? I don't even think that "biggest site in country X" is a qualifier for notability. Also this page has been around for 3 years with nothing on it, the site it dead so no one is ever going to add to this... [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] 15:39, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon-France

2012-03-23T15:38:39Z

DisgruntledGoat: Created page with "=Deletion= Any citation for "biggest Pokemon fan site in France"? I don't even think that "biggest site in country X" is a qualifier for notability. Also this page has been a..."

=Deletion=

Any citation for "biggest Pokemon fan site in France"? I don't even think that "biggest site in country X" is a qualifier for notability. Also this page has been around for 3 years with nothing on it, the site it dead so no one is ever going to add to this...

Pokémon-France

2012-03-23T15:36:31Z

DisgruntledGoat:

{{DiscussDelete|Dead site, never going to get information added to it, unlikely notable in the first place}}
{{incomplete}}
'''PokéLord''' was once the biggest Pokémon fan site in France that operated from 1999-2005. It has now shut down.

== External Links ==

{{stub|Site}}
{{Project Fandom notice}}
[[Category:Fan sites]]

Talk:PokespecialTK

2012-03-23T15:32:51Z

DisgruntledGoat: /* No, seriously... */ new section

==Notable?==
I think not. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 18:51, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

It was on [[Bulbapedia:Project Fandom/To-do list]], so I did it...[[User:GreenGyarados|GreenGyarados]] 18:59, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:Ok, then I guess it is. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 19:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== No, seriously... ==

What makes this notable? [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] 15:32, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

PokéFanon

2012-03-23T15:25:15Z

DisgruntledGoat:

{{DiscussDelete|this site doesn't seem to be notable at all, and the article is just a list of staff}}
{{incomplete|needs=Needs a site history, more details on what the site is about, and it should not be written like an advertisement}}
{{Fan site|
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sitename=PokéFanon |
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size=150px |
caption= |
lang=English |
status=Active |
run=March 2007 - Present|
create=May 2006 |
defunct=no |
reason=no |
creator=Plateface |
articles=yes |
noarticles=5,517 (as of December 20, 2011) |
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weblink=[http://pokemonfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Main Page]|
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}}
The '''PokéFanon Encyclopedia''' is a Pokémon [[fanon]]-based {{wp|wiki}} that was created by Plateface in May 2006. The {{wp|Wikia}}-based wiki features [[Fake Pokémon|fan-made Pokémon]], [[regions]], [[Hack games|games]] and [[fan fiction|stories]].

==Staff==
===Bureaucrats===
*KPZSR1 (adopted wiki from inactive staff, owner)
*Ryushusupercat
*Universalguardian1003

===Administrators===
* Commander Lightning (head administrator and bureaucrat adviser, currently has bureaucrat access, but isn't officially a bureaucrat)
* Intrudgero98
*1LugiaLova

===Rollbackers===
* Hyper Zergling
* NikkieJay
* MudkipSpark
* Artemiscat55
* Naruruler12

===Chat Moderators===
*E-113:Xi
*JohnnyD-the-VGNerd
*Kerauno
*LoonyChris96
*The Lone Centurion

===Past staff===
*Plateface (inactive/retired founder, keeps bureaucrat status as an honor)
*KangasKid18 (inactive and demoted bureaucrat)
*Cipher (inactive and demoted bureaucrat)
*Crazy Weavile (inactive and demoted bureaucrat)
*RMXPUser (inactive and demoted bureaucrat)
*DryGuy (Inactive and demoted administrator)

{{Project Fandom notice}}

[[Category:Fan sites]]
[[Category:Wikis]]
[[Category:Pokémon wikis]]