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Hassel

2024-07-04T03:11:11Z

DialgaTheTimeLord: /* Trivia */ Added trivia related to Hassel's Flapple and Brassius.

{{Character Infobox
|color={{dragon color}}
|corecolor={{dragon color light}}
|bordercolor={{dragon color dark}}
|name=Hassel
|jname=ハッサク
|tmname=Hassaku
|text=fff
|image=Scarlet Violet Hassel.png
|caption=Artwork from Scarlet and Violet
|size=150px
|hometown=Unknown
|region=[[Paldea]] (originally from an unnamed faraway [[region]])
|relatives=Unnamed father
|gender=Male
|hair=Blonde
|eyes=Yellow
}}
{{Character Infobox/Game
|color={{dragon color light}}
|gen={{gen|IX}}
|games={{pkmn|Scarlet and Violet}}
|trainer=[[Elite Four]], {{tc|Instructor}}
}}
{{Character Infobox/Team
|color={{dragon color light}}
|member=[[Paldea League]]
|rank=Elite Four
|specialty={{t|Dragon}}-types
}}
{{Character Infobox/Anime
|color={{dragon color light}}
|series=''[[Pokémon Horizons: The Series]]'' ''[[Pokémon: Paldean Winds]]''
|debut=[[HZ046]] ([[Pokémon Horizons: The Series|Horizons]]) ''[[PPW01|Breathe Out]]'' ([[Pokémon: Paldean Winds|PW]])
|enva=N/A
|jpva=Ryōtarō Okiayu ([[Pokémon Horizons: The Series|Horizons]])
}}
|}
'''Hassel''' (Japanese: '''ハッサク''' ''Hassaku'') is a member of the [[Elite Four]] of the [[Paldea]] [[region]] and the art teacher at [[Naranja Academy]]{{sup/9|S}}/[[Uva Academy]]{{sup/9|V}}. He [[Type expert|specializes]] in {{type|Dragon}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}.

==In the core series games==
Hassel is a descendant of a long line of Dragon-type Trainers in an unnamed faraway region. He ran away from home as a youth to pursue a dream of "making music", before becoming a member of the Elite Four in the Paldea region as well as an art instructor at the academy. Hassel is shown to be friendly, but very emotional, as he bursts into tears of joy when defeated by the player. He is an old friend of Gym Leader [[Brassius]] of [[Artazon]].

During his bond story, a {{tc|Dragon Tamer}} arrives at the academy to get Hassel back home, claiming his father, the head of the family, is feeling ill, and Hassel should be taking his place as the head of the family. Through interactions with the {{player}}, Hassel gains the confidence to confront the Dragon Tamer, realizing her words about his father's deteriorating health were lies in another attempt to get him to come home and swearing to stay at the academy to teach.

In [[The Indigo Disk]], Hassel can be invited to [[Blueberry Academy]] as a special coach. A conversation between him and [[Drayton]] reveals that Hassel knows his grandfather, [[Drayden]].

===Pokémon===
Hassel will {{Tera}}stallize his {{p|Baxcalibur}} at the first opportunity.

====Champion Assessment====
{{Party/Single
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|location=Pokémon League (Paldea)
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|{{Pokémon/9
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|pokemon=Noivern
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|move4=Hyper Voice|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Special}}
|{{Pokémon/9
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|move2=Crunch|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Iron Head|move3type=Steel|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Rock Tomb|move4type=Rock|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/9
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|move3=Hydro Pump|move3type=Water|move3cat=Special
|move4=Thunderbolt|move4type=Electric|move4cat=Special}}
{{Party/Div|color={{dragon color}}}}
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/9
|game=SV
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|pokemon=Flapple
|level=60
|gender=female
|type1=Grass|type2=Dragon
|ability=Ripen
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|move2=Seed Bomb|move2type=Grass|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Aerial Ace|move3type=Flying|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Leech Seed|move4type=Grass|move4cat=Status}}
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/9
|game=SV
|ndex=998
|pokemon=Baxcalibur
|level=61
|gender=male
|type1=Dragon|type2=Ice
|tera=Dragon
|ability=Thermal Exchange
|move1=Icicle Crash|move1type=Ice|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Brick Break|move2type=Fighting|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Glaive Rush|move3type=Dragon|move3cat=Physical}}
{{Party/Footer}}

====[[Academy Ace Tournament]]====
{{Party/Single
|color={{dragon color}}
|bordercolor={{dragon color dark}}
|headcolor={{dragon color light}}
|sprite=VSHassel 2.png
|size=x100px
|prize={{PDollar}}14,416
|class2=the Instructor
|classlink2=Instructor (Trainer class)
|name={{color2|000|Hassel}}
|game=SV
|location=Mesagoza
|pokemon=6}}
|{{Pokémon/9
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|ndex=715
|pokemon=Noivern
|level=67
|gender=female
|type1=Flying|type2=Dragon
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|move2=Dragon Pulse|move2type=Dragon|move2cat=Special
|move3=Super Fang|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Boomburst|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Special}}
|{{Pokémon/9
|game=SV
|ndex=612
|pokemon=Haxorus
|level=67
|gender=male
|type1=Dragon
|ability=Mold Breaker
|move1=Dragon Claw|move1type=Dragon|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Crunch|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Iron Head|move3type=Steel|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Rock Tomb|move4type=Rock|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/9
|game=SV
|ndex=691
|pokemon=Dragalge
|level=67
|gender=male
|type1=Poison|type2=Dragon
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|move3=Hydro Pump|move3type=Water|move3cat=Special
|move4=Thunderbolt|move4type=Electric|move4cat=Special}}
{{Party/Div|color={{dragon color}}}}
|{{Pokémon/9
|game=SV
|ndex=841
|pokemon=Flapple
|level=67
|gender=female
|type1=Grass|type2=Dragon
|ability=Ripen
|move1=Dragon Rush|move1type=Dragon|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Seed Bomb|move2type=Grass|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Aerial Ace|move3type=Flying|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Leech Seed|move4type=Grass|move4cat=Status}}
|{{Pokémon/9
|game=SV
|ndex=149
|pokemon=Dragonite
|level=67
|gender=male
|type1=Dragon|type2=Flying
|ability=Inner Focus
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|move2=Dragon Rush|move2type=Dragon|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Fire Punch|move3type=Fire|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Stone Edge|move4type=Rock|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/9
|game=SV
|ndex=998
|pokemon=Baxcalibur
|level=68
|gender=male
|type1=Dragon|type2=Ice
|tera=Dragon
|ability=Thermal Exchange
|move1=Icicle Crash|move1type=Ice|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Brick Break|move2type=Fighting|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Glaive Rush|move3type=Dragon|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Ice Shard|move4type=Ice|move4cat=Physical}}
{{Party/Footer}}

====[[League Club Room]]====
{{Party/Single
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|bordercolor={{dragon color dark}}
|headcolor={{dragon color light}}
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|classlink2=Instructor (Trainer class)
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|{{Pokémon/9
|ndex=884
|pokemon=Duraludon
|gender=female
|level=82
|type1=Steel
|type2=Dragon
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|move1=Stealth Rock|move1type=Rock|move1cat=Status
|move2=Body Press|move2type=Fighting|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Thunderbolt|move3type=Electric|move3cat=Special
|move4=Draco Meteor|move4type=Dragon|move4cat=Special}}
|{{Pokémon/9
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|move3=Super Fang|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Boomburst|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Special}}
|{{Pokémon/9
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|pokemon=Haxorus
|gender=male
|level=82
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|move1=Breaking Swipe|move1type=Dragon|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Crunch|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Iron Head|move3type=Steel|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Rock Tomb|move4type=Rock|move4cat=Physical}}
{{Party/Div|color={{dragon color}}}}
|{{Pokémon/9
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|pokemon=Dragalge
|gender=male
|level=82
|type1=Poison
|type2=Dragon
|ability=Poison Point
|move1=Sludge Bomb|move1type=Poison|move1cat=Special
|move2=Dragon Pulse|move2type=Dragon|move2cat=Special
|move3=Hydro Pump|move3type=Water|move3cat=Special
|move4=Thunderbolt|move4type=Electric|move4cat=Special}}
|{{Pokémon/9
|ndex=149
|pokemon=Dragonite
|gender=male
|level=82
|type1=Dragon
|type2=Flying
|ability=Inner Focus
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|move2=Dragon Rush|move2type=Dragon|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Earthquake|move3type=Ground|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Stone Edge|move4type=Rock|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/9
|ndex=998
|pokemon=Baxcalibur
|gender=male
|level=83
|type1=Dragon
|type2=Ice
|tera=Dragon
|ability=Thermal Exchange
|move1=Iron Head|move1type=Steel|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Earthquake|move2type=Ground|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Glaive Rush|move3type=Dragon|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Ice Shard|move4type=Ice|move4cat=Physical}}
{{Party/Footer}}

====Traded to the player====
Upon the third unique interaction with Hassel in the League Club Room, he will trade an Arctibax to the player in exchange for almost any Pokémon excluding {{Shiny}}, {{pkmn2|Legendary}}, or [[Mythical Pokémon]].

{{G9event/head
|ndex=0997
|ball=Poké
|pokemon=Arctibax
|gender=m
|level=45
|teratype=Dragon
|type=Dragon|type2=Ice
|ot=Hassel
|id=316242
|ability=Thermal Exchange
|nature=Relaxed
|met=a Link Trade
|ribbon=Partner
|move1=Dragon Rush|move1type=Dragon|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Ice Fang|move2type=Ice|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Crunch|move3type=Dark|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Focus Energy|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}
{{G9event/entrybottom|sv|[[In-game trade]]|}}
{{G9event/footer|scale=128}}

==Quotes==
{{main|Hassel/Quotes}}

==Gallery==
===Sprites and models===
{| style="margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|15px}} border: 2px solid #{{dragon color dark}}; background: #{{dragon color}}; font-size:80%; color:#fff;"
|-
| style="{{roundy|15px}} border: 2px solid #{{dragon color dark}}; background: #{{dragon color light}};" | [[File:VSHassel.png|x100px]]
| style="{{roundy|15px}} border: 2px solid #{{dragon color dark}}; background: #{{dragon color light}};" | [[File:VSHassel 2.png|x100px]]
| style="{{roundy|15px}} border: 2px solid #{{dragon color dark}}; background: #{{dragon color light}};" | [[File:Hassel League Club Room Profile.png|100px]]
|-
| Elite Four VS model from {{color2|fff|Pokémon Scarlet and Violet|Scarlet and Violet}}
| Instructor VS model from {{color2|fff|Pokémon Scarlet and Violet|Scarlet and Violet}}
| {{color2|fff|League Club Room#Special Coaches|Special Coach}} profile image from {{color2|fff|Pokémon Scarlet and Violet|Scarlet and Violet}}
|}

===Artwork===
{|style="margin:auto; text-align:center; border:3px solid #{{dragon color dark}}; background:#{{dragon color}}; font-size:80%; border-radius: 10px; color:#fff;"
|-
| style="border:2px solid #{{dragon color light}}; background:#{{dragon color light}}" | [[File:Hassel_concept_art.jpg|x200px]]
|-
| Concept art from {{color2|fff|Pokémon Scarlet and Violet|Scarlet and Violet}}
|}

===Animation===
{| style="margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|10px}} border:2px solid #{{dragon color dark}}; background:#{{dragon color}}; font-size:80%; color:#fff;"
|-
| style="{{roundy|5px}} border:2px solid #{{dragon color dark}}; background:#{{dragon color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Hassel anime 2.png|x250px]]
| style="{{roundy|5px}} border:2px solid #{{dragon color dark}}; background:#{{dragon color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Hassel Anime Expression Sheet.png|x200px]]
|-
| ''{{color2|fff|Pokémon Horizons: The Series}}'' artwork
| ''{{color2|fff|Pokémon Horizons: The Series}}'' settei
|}
====Eyecatch====
{| style="margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|5px}} border:2px solid #{{dragon color dark}}; background:#{{dragon color}}; font-size:80%"
|style="{{roundy|5px}} border: 2px solid #{{dragon color dark}}; background: #{{dragon color light}}; width:auto"| [[File:HZ eyecatch Hassel Baxcalibur.png|x150px]]
|-
|}

==In the anime==
[[File:Hassel anime.png|thumb|250px|Hassel in the {{pkmn|anime}}]]
===Main series===
Hassel made his first appearance alongside [[Rika]] in [[HZ046]] when welcoming [[Liko]], [[Roy]], and [[Dot]] to [[Naranja Academy]]. Later, Hassel appeared with the other members of the [[Elite Four]] watching Liko's battle against [[Ann]].

In [[HZ048]], Hassel and [[Nemona]] helped with some details of the annual [[Artazon Art Festival]], during the event, he discovered that Liko is [[Alex]]'s daughter. After taking Liko, Roy and Dot to meet with [[Brassius]], Hassel evaluated the works of art constructed by his students and then watched Roy's {{Tera}}stal battle against Brassius.

In [[HZ055]], Hassel took part in a [[Multi Battle|Tag Battle]] against Roy and Brassius during the [[Elite Four Tag Battle]], eventually winning.

====Character====
In the past, Hassel mentored Brassius during his times of insecurity with art. Hassel has a gentle personality, but also has a tendency to get overly emotional and cry with tears of joy upon admiring another person's character and progress. He is also very proud of his students as a teacher.

====Pokémon====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Hassel
|pkmn=Gible
|gender=male
|type1=Dragon
|type2=Ground
|img=Hassel Gible.png
|epnum=HZ048
|epname=
|vajp=
|vaen=
|desc={{p|Gible}} is Hassel's first known Pokémon.

None of Gible's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Hassel
|pkmn=Baxcalibur
|type1=Dragon
|type2=Ice
|img=Hassel Baxcalibur.png
|epnum=HZ055
|epname=
|vajp=
|vaen=
|desc={{p|Baxcalibur}} is Hassel's second known Pokémon and his main battling partner. It was used alongside Flapple against [[Roy's Fuecoco]] and [[Brassius]]'s {{p|Dolliv}}, eventually winning the battle.

Baxcalibur's known moves are {{m|Ice Shard}}, {{m|Glaive Rush}}, {{m|Blizzard}}, and {{m|Protect}}, and its [[Ability]] is {{a|Thermal Exchange}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Hassel
|pkmn=Flapple
|type1=Grass
|type2=Dragon
|img=Hassel Flapple.png
|epnum=HZ055
|epname=
|vajp=
|vaen=
|desc={{p|Flapple}} is Hassel's third known Pokémon. It was used to battle against [[Roy]] and [[Brassius]] alongside Baxcalibur, being on the winning side when its partner defeated both of their opponents.

Flapple's known moves are {{m|Acid Spray}}, {{m|Grav Apple}}, {{m|Twister}}, and {{m|Protect}}.}}

====Voice actors====
{{vatable|color={{dragon color}}|bordercolor={{dragon color dark}}
|ja=置鮎龍太郎 ''Ryōtarō Okiayu''
|en=
}}
[[File:Hassel Paldean Winds.png|250px|thumb|Hassel in [[Pokémon: Paldean Winds]]]]

===Pokémon: Paldean Winds===
Hassel briefly appeared in ''[[PPW01|Breathe Out]]''. He was seen clapping alongside other teachers at [[Ohara]]'s performance.

In ''[[PPW04|Breathe Together]]'', Hassel was seen teaching a class during the [[Naranja Academy]] presentation video. In the video, he appears speaking while his students were painting {{p|Gible}}.

====Pokémon====
======Used in his studies======
{|
| {{ActivePoké|Hassel|Gible|0443Gible.png|Dragon|Ground|size=100px|link=no||disp=Professor Gible}}
|
|
|}


==In the manga==
[[File:Hassel Adventures.png|thumb|170px|Hassel in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]
===Pokémon Adventures===
Hassel debuted in [[PASV02]]. He and several other teachers were called to an emergency meeting by [[Clavell]] to discuss {{adv|Violet}}, a new student that caused trouble during the Treasure Hunt's opening ceremony. Clavell informed the others of Violet's backstory and explained his behavior.
{{-}}

==In the TCG==
[[File:HasselTwilightMasquerade205.jpg|200px|thumb|Ultra rare print of Hassel]]
{{main|Hassel (Twilight Masquerade 151)}}
'''Hassel''' was introduced as a {{TCG|Supporter card}} in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]] during the English Scarlet & Violet Series (the Japanese Scarlet & Violet Era). It was first released in the Japanese {{TCG|Transformation Mask}} expansion and the English {{TCG|Twilight Masquerade}} expansion, with artwork by [[GOSSAN]]. An {{TCG|ultra rare}} version with artwork by the same illustrator was released in the same sets. This card can only be used if any of the player's Pokémon were Knocked Out during their opponent's last turn. It lets the player look at the top 8 cards of their deck and choose up to 3 of them to put into their hand. The other cards are then shuffled back into the deck.
{{-}}

==Trivia==
* The back vent on Hassel's coat could be in reference to the capes worn by {{tc|Dragon Tamer}}s, whom Hassel has a history with, being a Dragon-type Trainer himself.
** It might also be a nod to [[Clair]] and her design in [[Generation II]] due to how her cape resembles part of a suit.
* Prior to the release of [[The Indigo Disk]], Hassel was the only Paldean Elite Four member that could be rebattled indefinitely.
* Hassel is left-handed, as shown when he throws his {{i|Poké Ball}}s and in his official concept art painting a portrait of an {{p|Applin}}.
* Hassel has a Flapple, a Grass-type, which is the same type Brassius specializes in. In Sword and Shield, there is a cutscene that implies giving someone an Applin is a romantic gesture, which may suggest Hassel's Flapple was a gift from Brassius and that the two are likely in a romantic relationship.<ref>https://youtu.be/iHxiFujH82o?si=WhE60ZeEGVsWEPYG&t=1361</ref>

==Names==
{| class="roundtable" style="background:#{{dragon color light}}; border:3px solid #{{dragon color dark}}"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|-
| Japanese
| ハッサク ''Hassaku''
| From 八朔 ''hassaku'' ({{wp|Hassaku orange}})
|-
| English
| Hassel
| Similar to his Japanese name
|-
| German
| Sinius
| From ''Apfelsine'' (dialectal name for orange)
|-
| Spanish
| Hesperio
| From ''hesperidio'' ({{wp|hesperidium}})
|-
| French
| Hassa
| Similar to his Japanese name
|-
| Italian
| Oranzio
| From ''orange''
|-
| Korean
| 팔자크 ''Paljakeu''
| From 팔삭 (八朔) ''palsak'' (hassaku orange) and partial transcription of Japanese name
|-
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and Mainland China}})
| 八朔 ''Bāshuò''
| rowspan="2" | From 八朔 ''bāshuò'' / ''baatsok'' (hassaku orange)
|-
| Chinese ({{tt|Cantonese|Hong Kong}})
| 八朔 ''Baatsok''
|-
| Indonesia
| Haskev
| Similar to his Japanese name
|-
| Brazilian Portuguese
| Oranzo
| From ''orange''
|-
| Thai
| ฮัซซาคุ ''Hassaku''
| Transcription of his Japanese name
|}

==See also==
* [[a:Category:Hassel|Images on the Bulbagarden Archives]]

==References==
<references/>
{{-}}
{{Paldea League}}
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}

[[Category:Game characters]]
[[Category:Scarlet and Violet characters]]
[[Category:Pokémon: Paldean Winds characters]]
[[Category:Elite Four Trainers]]
[[Category:Dragon-type Trainers]]
[[Category:Trainers with Tera Orbs]]
[[Category:Pokémon Adventures characters]]

[[de:Sinius]]
[[es:Hesperio]]
[[fr:Hassa]]
[[it:Oranzio]]
[[ja:ハッサク]]
[[zh:八朔]]

Talk:Variant Pokémon

2018-06-22T17:39:37Z

DialgaTheTimeLord: /* AZ's Floette */ new section

== Shapeshifting and forms ==
Somebody please explain to me why is it that some Pokémon that have either shapeshifting abilities (Ditto and Porygon) or alternate forms (Arceus, Genesect and Kyurem) are mentioned in the article, whereas other Pokémon with similar abilities, such as Deoxys and Darumaka, aren't. - [[User:Ericss|Ericss]] ([[User talk:Ericss|talk]]) 18:17, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
:Form differences recognized by the Pokedex go on the [[Form differences]] article; this page is for shape- or form-changing capabilities not recognized by the Pokedex. I believe that satisfactorily answers why Ditto, Porygon, Arceus, Genesect and Deoxys are on their respective pages — the former four are not recognized by the Pokedex, but Deoxys is.
:My opinion is that Kyurem should not be here because it is recognized by the Pokedex. I'll go remove that now, but if someone has a compelling reason that it should stay, they are welcome to revert my edit.
:Darumaka has neither alternate forms nor shapeshifting capabilities; I believe you may be thinking about Darmanitan, whose form differences are recognized by the Pokedex, which is why it's on the other article instead of here.
:Does that answer all of your questions? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:54, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
::I see. I guess that makes sense, thanks for the clarification. And yes, I meant Darmanitan. My bad, I got their names mixed up. - [[User:Ericss|Ericss]] ([[User talk:Ericss|talk]]) 01:36, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

== Carbink ==

Because there are Carbink variations which are under the names of Daii, Majima, Knight and Joke for the [[M17|new movie]], are we allowed to add it or just leave it as it is? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 23:42, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

== Xerneas and Yveltal ==

Since we've had the Stone-forms of Reshiram and Zekrom in this article, should we add the Tree-form Xerneas and Cocoon-form Yveltal too? --[[User:Yen01|Yen01]] ([[User talk:Yen01|talk]]) 08:24, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

== Zygarde ==

Zygarde's Core Form has a Red one (Squishy) and a Blue one (Z2)
We should mention this.
Not only the Core has this but the 10% forme does as well.
[[User:Theexploringgamer|Theexploringgamer]] ([[User talk:Theexploringgamer|talk]]) 20:43, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

== Rotom Pokédex ==

Just asking, where would the [[Rotom Pokédex]] be included? It cant be in the form differences because it isn't a form that is recognized by the Pokédex, ironically enough. [[User:Zakor1138|Zakor1138]] ([[User talk:Zakor1138|talk]]) 20:41, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

== Not variants ==
{{p|Porygon}}, {{p|Solgaleo}}, and {{p|Lunala}} do not belong on this page.

This page is called "variant Pokemon". Reasonably, this is just what the intro says: Pokemon that are—''inherently''—different from others of their species. This is also what most of the things on this page are.

This is not Porygon. Porygon's section only describes temporary or else willful transformations (that it could revert at will). All Porygon can do it.

It is not Solgaleo and Lunala. The Radiant Sun phase and Full Moon phase are temporary transformations. All Solgaleo/Lunala could do it, and return to exactly what they were before the transformation. It's no species variant.

This is not the page for anything that doesn't go somewhere else. Not as it's currently titled. I don't know where any "orphans" should go, but it does not ''have'' to be this page—at least not like they're currently included. I could see adding them as trivia points perhaps or at the end of the intro, as "a few things aren't forms but also aren't variant species". (There may even be a better page of some sort to mention them on.) In the meantime, IMO it's not even a huge loss if they're not on this page; they should still be in the Pokemon's Biology sections. FWIW, I also think all the things that are currently on this page would also be fine on a page called "'''Pokemon variants'''" (a small but very significant difference).

[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:11, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
:This has been resolved. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:14, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

What about Cosplay Pikachu from ORAS? Is that considered a variant or not? Also, what about Alolan forms? [[User:SharkDude|SharkDude]] ([[User talk:SharkDude|talk]]} 10:52, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

== AZ's Floette ==

While AZ's Floette hasn't been released in the games, at the least, it still makes an appearance in-game, and should probably have a mention here. After all, it has a unique color scheme, a unique flower, and unique stats.