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Derpyderpy: /* About a female player */ new section

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..Hehe,oopsie,I'm sort of forgetful. Sorry,I'll sign my comments for now on. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 18:29, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

== Ash's Pikachu ==

Please quit removing the statement. Look, it's dub-only, and we've got that down. There's no need to worry; Pikachu has enough support on both sides that even a direct verbal confirmation is arguable. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 03:11, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

==Talk Page Comments==
Please don't erase talk page comments for no reason. Trust me, you do NOT want to end up like {{u|Big Johnno}}, who got into an edit war with [[User:Fabu-Vinny|a sysop]] over comments the former had erased and was trying to keep erased. That user ended up blocked and subsequently had every erased comment restored. --''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:38, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

==Red article image==
Hello, I'm the one who uploaded that new Red image, but it was Maverick Nate that finally got it to stay on the article. I believe it looks better than the previous one. Don't you agree?--[[User:Heero45|Heero45]] 19:32, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== Your edits ==

Okay Lovely Rose, looking at [[Special:Contributions/Lovely Rose|your edits]], you been editing the Talk pages ''a lot'' lately (Over 200 to be exact). Meanwhile your Mainspace edits are ''17'' with your last edit on September 20, 2009. This is not good at all for someone who has been on Bulbapedia for over a year. I recommend you to stop editing the Talk pages and start contributing more on the Mainspace pages. I know you are asking questions on certain things but really I recommend to try going to on [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/index.php the forums] for these questions. Thank You for your time, --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 01:13, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

== About a female player ==

In some earlier talk pages you discussed a female character replacing Red if you had a Crystal cartridge with the player set as Kris as the player. Could you send me a picture of the girl who replaced Red? --[[User:Derpyderpy|Derpyderpy]] ([[User talk:Derpyderpy|talk]]) 21:14, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Lyra (game)

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Derpyderpy: /* About Soul... */

<big><big><big>'''ATTENTION: THIS PAGE IS NOT FOR ARGUMENTS. GO TO THE FORUMS FOR THAT.'''</big></big></big>

I rendered the scan of Soul (I guess that's what we're all calling her now) if you want to use it...

:The top of her head's cut off. Can you fix that? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:35, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
::Um....shouldn't we wait until a REAL source gives her name? Or has one been given? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:48, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:::There was a poll, and it is mentioned that there is no official name yet, and this is a fanname. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 03:54, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I can't do anything about the hat because it was like that in the scan. It went off the page. (Sorry, I'm new to this wiki stuff, so I don't know how to do a lot...)
:How about [http://bayimg.com/image/aapfgaabl.jpg this one], or should we just wait for the official individual art from [[Ken Sugimori]] to be released.--[[User talk:AOS|AOS]] 20:34, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::If you click through to the archives from the image's page, you'll notice that it's already been updated to the official art, taken from the HG/SS official site. There's just something up with the way images are being shown on the 'pedia. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 21:35, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

== Name ==

According to the screen revealed in CoroCoro and Famitsu, Soul seems to be the boy's name... --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 07:07, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:Sigh. You know as well as I do that "Leaf" is among the optional names for Red in LeafGreen, too, don't you? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:28, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
::Well. I know that it doesn't indicate anything. But I noted it here to show that the assumption that her name will be "Soul" is nothing more than gunjumping. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 07:30, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Either way, we needed a name for her page and we couldn't really name her "That girl who replaced Kris causing all the fans to whine (game)". '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:34, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I really think for the time being we should call her the "Un-named female trainer", or something like that. Besides, we can't assume her name based on what [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|one generation]] did.[[User:Zabbethx|Zabbethx]] 15:16, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:The name is pretty much a place-holder (no user is going to be willing to search something like "Un-named female trainer" just to find the this article) at this point, which is why it is clearly tagged in the article to avoid confusion. And if the precedent from gen III holds, the article will have already had its proper name, and if not, it can very easily be corrected. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 15:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
::Check [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Leaf_(game) this] if you don't mind since I gave my opinion as well as a few facts (at least one XD). [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 15:51, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I knew it! her name was going to be Soul just like I predicted in Kris's Talk Page. [[User:AlienX2008|AlienX2008]] 17:52, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually we don't know for a fact yet AlienX2008. While there is a 99% chance of her name being Soul (which I am starting to think is her name as opposed to Heart which I previously thought), there is no official word yet. Right now Soul is just her fan-name.[[User:Zabbethx|Zabbethx]] 18:49, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:Is it Heart? I heard that according to those scans that the Pokemon website has,it has the Gold character with the default name "Soul"? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 22:56, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Personally, i hope its Heart. But i'd be ok with Soul. {{unsigned|Golden}}

I personally think this article should be called "Female character (Heart Gold/Soul Silver)" since we don't know her name yet.It's best we avoid misinformation until more is revealed. - seriousexpression
:There would be no point in having an article then. Although I think it is jumping the gun as well, the article does say that it is a fan-made name. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 00:35, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
::This article may be jumping the gun slightly, maybe, but truly, I'd rather have done it now just in case some dork comes along and wonders where she is. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:28, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
:::We can always change it later.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 00:48, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I've seen her called Mariko on the Japanese site Pixiv. I haven't heard it anywhere else; is this another fan nickname, or is it official? --[[User:Lime|Lime]] 21:42, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:Might be one of the default names. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:47, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Isn't the female referred to as like Haato and the male referred to as Souru? [[User:Erik Destler|~*~ Erik Destler ~*~]] 22:48, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

== New screenshot ==

Can someone translate what she is saying in the new screenshot, please? This may give us some kind of information about her... [[User:Mr. Charlie|'''Mr. Charlie''']]([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|''TalkToMe'']]) 20:51, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v727/joodude/1245089067561.jpg

This one? -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 20:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::Yes. I've tried to translate it, but realized soon enough that translating anything that does not use our alphabet is not for me. I got "Steer!". Please. [[User:Mr. Charlie|'''Mr. Charlie''']]([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|''TalkToMe'']]) 21:01, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::According to the gallery on {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}} it reads ''"Yeah! How about you show your mom, too?"'' '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 21:09, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

== About Soul...==

I know this is simply speculation,but Soul looks a lot like that [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/1/1a/Playergirl.png girl] that replaces Red if you insert a Crystal cart. with Kris into the game,right? Okay,maybe not a lot but still..Leaf is obviously based off that girl playable character that was left out of the first generation,right? Maybe Soul is based off this girl? If so,could we put it in the article? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 20:54, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:A. This comparison is an opinion, and B. No, because it's an opinion it cannot go into the article. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:57, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
::Oh,okay,just making sure. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 20:58, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Sketch: If that's so, then why is the following paragraph in the article:
:::"Due to her similar hair, it is believed by some fans that she is to Kris what Leaf is to Blue: a vastly redesigned version of her. As Kris's Special counterpart Crystal likewise had brown hair initially (though it was changed to blue to match her counterparts of Kris and Marina), and currently has brown hair again." -[[User:Spideym|Spideym]] 21:55, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Ask the Echidna. He put it in. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 21:57, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::If anything, Stadium Boy and Stadium Girl are just that. Stadium people. Because this was before they identified your game as your game through the Trainer's appearance. Plus, since RGBY are playable with Stadium 2, it'd look really odd to see Red face... himself. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:49, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:That link for the player girl in Pokémon Red is outdated. Could you update/replace it? --[[User:Derpyderpy|Derpyderpy]] ([[User talk:Derpyderpy|talk]]) 13:15, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

==SERIOUS BUSINESS==
I just read one of the scans's captions on the [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions]]page. It said:

'''Inside Professor Elm's laboratory. "Oh, Soul! I've been waiting for you to come!"''

Does this mean the name is now set in stone? I don't want to edit it straight away incase this isn't the case. - ''[[User:Lucadan|Lucadan]] ([[User talk:Lucadan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lucadan|contribs]])'' 15:42, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

:New stuff goes at the bottom. Also, look at that picture. Elm is talking to GOLD, not [[Soul|this new girl <s>that no one cares about</s>]]. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 20:21, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
::Most likely, "Soul" is a default name for Gold, like how "Diamond" and "Pearl" are default names for Lucas. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 20:30, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
:::{{tt|Exactly.|Which probably means that was a screenshot from SoulSilver.}} --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 20:46, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

So, why not change the article to Heart? [[User:Erik Destler|~*~ Erik Destler ~*~]] 22:49, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:That will likely be a default name for '''both''' in ''HeartGold'', just like Soul will be in ''SS'', just as “Red” was a default for both the [[Red (game)|boy]] '''and''' the [[Leaf (game)|girl]] in ''FireRed'' and “Green” for both in ''LeafGreen''. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 13:11, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
== Final proof ==

Eusine in HGSS. Means Crystal stuff is there. Means Soul is Kris. Yes or yes? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:27, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
: Hmm... Let's do it. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 19:35, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::I think we should wait for CoroCoro to come out before making any decisions just yet.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 19:44, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Three days? Good for me. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:44, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Waiting for concrete proof would be ideal. If it explicitly mentions that it's Kris, then go for it. Otherwise... well isn't that a lot of speculation that we can enjoy ;) '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 19:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::What does Eusine have to do with anything? Just because he's from Crystal doesn't mean that everything else is. They could just be simply putting some events from Crystal into this game. Chris is right. Wait for concrete proof. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:10, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::The main argument in the past was that this girl must be a new character because HeartGold and SoulSilver are not remakes of Crystal, so anything that was in Crystal can't be in HG/SS. Now that that argument has been put to rest, there's really no reason left to believe she isn't Kris. At the very least, a merge would solve the problem that this page is located at an unofficial title.[[User:Jeff|-Jeff]][[User talk:Jeff|(talk)]] 20:56, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::...No reason? How about the fact that Soul looks NOTHING like Kris, unlike the other redesigned characters? Or the fact that that her clothes DON'T look like they're based on Kris' ones, unlike the other player characters' outfits? Or the fact that she would be the only player character whose hair color was changed to a totally different one in a remake (Red had brown hair in Pokémon Stadium 2, so no, FR/LG didn't change his hair from black to brown), and even compared to the few characters who had a hair color change (Lance and Lorelei), the change between from Kris' and Soul's hair color is too drastic (Lance and Lorelei's new hair colors [reddish pink and red respectively] could be obtained by changing the tonality of the original ones [reddish orange and purple], but you can't get Soul's hair color [brown] by changing the tonality of Kris' [blue])? - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 21:34, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Kris's hair color was originally dark brown before they changed it to fit with the "Crystal" theme. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 21:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::When did game Kris have brown hair? - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 21:41, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::The manga. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:19, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Which should be irrelevant because Special Crystal is based on game Kris, and not the other way around. - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 22:25, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::However, she did still have Brown hair...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:32, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::Yeah, there was something about a prototype female character similar to Kris that had brown hair, but I haven't found a picture so far x.x '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 22:35, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::PsychicRider: And anime Bill had green hair. So?
:::::::::::::Sol: You mean the "prototypical" artwork that was revealed years before Gold and Silver came out?:
:::::::::::::http://web.archive.org/web/20041021125709/http://pokefor.greenchu.de/meowth346/gbc/alpha/alpha_girltrainer.png
::::::::::::: - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 22:43, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Bill has nothing to do with this...He may or may not be getting new artwork...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:08, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:Neither have Pokémon Special or Special Crystal. The manga has even less influence in the games than the anime. - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 23:13, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::You can't even keep your point. Special Crys did get a change...She had brown that switched to blue...Oh, kinda like this, but reversed...hm...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:19, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::"You can't even keep your point." < What? - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 23:27, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Guys, how much like Red did Red look? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:20, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::A lot. Both original and FRLG Red have brown spiky hair, red-and-white jacket and cap, black shirt, blue pants... - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 23:27, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Just wanted to say, I support the merge, for what that's worth. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 00:33, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
:The whole thing with PokéSpe Crystal's Blue/Brown hair aside, I'm going to side with Chris and Kenji-girl and suggest waiting until we at least get more concrete evidence pertaining specifically to this character -- such as [[Kris_(game)#Optional_names_for_Kris|sharing default names]], a mention on [http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir/ Masuda's blog] (or preferably [http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/art/ Sugimori's] with some early concept art, just to see that blog updated more than once a year), etc. -- before accepting that Kris and Soul are the same character.
::Not even Leaf's design is changed as drastically from the prototype RGB girl -- Leaf and RBG girl both have long brown hair, a mini-skirt, and no sleeves -- as Soul is from Kris. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 02:41, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
we already jumped the gun by making this page, so we might as well keep it until everything is 100% confirmed. I don't see how Crystal stuff being in these remakes automatically makes Soul Kris. What is so bad about waiting. And just throwing this in, but how about in the future we actually wait instead of having to go through this again. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 02:13, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Waiting would mean someone comes along and makes an article at "NOO GURL (Hartgald/soulver)" that's an absolute mess. And considering the fandom's whining about "SHE'S NOT KRIS" and all that bullcrap... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:29, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
She's not Kris. EoT. I don't see how Eusine has anything to do with that. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 17:34, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
:What evidence is there that she's not Kris, aside from their appearances? We've come up with evidence to indicate she is, the appearance of Crystal elements and her appearing with Eusine in a picture being a few. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 00:06, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
::It's not any evidence. It's just a failed comparative logic. Come on, we didn't even believe CONFIRMED dub title when it revealed [[Barry (anime)|Barry]]'s name. We didn't move his page until the airing of the episode. So, why are we supposed to believe some failed logic? Because the main 'Pedia admin is supporter of the "Soul is Kris" theory? It is NOT an evidence. As long as it's not blatantly stated that she is design-raped Kris after a nuclear explosion, we should not believe any failed "evidences" like that. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 08:41, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I just want to say that I oppose the merge. They are obviously different people, and like said above, if you do merge them people will be saying "WTH! SOUL ISNT KRIS" and making fail pages named "new gil(hgss)" --[[User:Blake|Blake]] 13:46, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
:''An'' evidence? Sheez. Anyway, Maxim, I'm still not seeing any logic coming from you, aside from "they look different." Well, you also had "Not a Crystal remake," but that's obviously no longer the case. We've got "They don't look ''that'' different," "They fill the same role in-game," "Kris appears in a shot with Eusine," "Other characters have undergone drastic visual changes," etc.
:Please, if you have an argument, present it. It doesn't seem like you're using any logic, and I'd love for that to change. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 17:22, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
::We have no proof that Soul is Kris, or even that Kris wont even be a character. She might pop up somewhere else, like Blue being a Gym Leader. --[[User:Blake|Blake]] 19:23, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
:::We also have no proof that Soul is '''''NOT''''' Kris. Blue popped up as Gym Leader 3 years after he began his journey. This is back at the beginning of Gold/Kris's journey. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 19:27, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Both sides of the argument piss off the other side, so maybe we should leave this as is for now. We have no evidence to support either side, and all that is happening now are insults on how the other side isn't right. So just drop the subject for now, and we will pick it up once something in the Pokémon world actually happens. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 19:34, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Does it really matter if she is Kris or not. At least they are remaking G/S. That's what matters. I would love to have Kris back. Soul and Kris have similarities. They probably did that on purpose. To make her look similar to Kris. So until she is confirmed to be Kris, if she is her, i say no merger yet.--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 04:58, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::I say no to any merger at this point. There is strong evidence in favour of her being Kris, however it is nowhere near confirmed. I say we leave it as it is for the moment, otherwise, the situation could arise where we merge the pages, and then have the messy job of unmerging them, and removing all the Soul stuff from Kris's page. Surely you guys can wait til September 12th to merge the page, just to make sure your doing it when it is confirmed, and not another instance where Bulbapedia jumps the gun.
But I have a question, what will be the proof for either side, when the game comes out, if Kris isn't her name, when she is the NPC, will that confirm she's not Kris, equally if Kris is in her optional names, will that confirm she is Kris? [[User:Max King|Max King]] 14:17, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Personally, I believe it's what her NPC "helper" name is, what will determine who she is. Be it Kris, Soul or something totally different. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 18:34, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::@ Max King: No, it wouldn't prove a damned thing. If you'll recall, the player character from Diamond and Pearl have Ash/Satoshi or Gary/Shigeru amongst their default names, but that most certainly does not make them Red or Green. Player-Character Girl should use this name for now, since the mob of fanon has spoken. It'll be changed later whether they like it or not. [[User:Fishman|Fishman]] 13:44, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::If I may add my opinion into this, I don't believe for a second they are the same and oppose the merge. In FireRed/LeafGreen, Red and Leaf were recognisable as who they were meant to be (albeit Leaf never appeared in the original, but there WAS beta artwork of her); Red still had a red jacket, red hat, blue pants; and Leaf still had the boots and same hairstyle. On the other hand, Soul resembles Kris in no way, shape, or form beyond the hair, and even then...I don't see the hair similarities beyond pigtails. Alongside that, if Soul WAS Kris, why would she look so utterly different if Gold and Silver are easily recognizable? It just doesn't make sense. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 09:19, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:Given her weird hair similar to the original Kris’s, and her appearance alongside Eusine in that [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/pokemon/images/img_pokemon_03_04.jpg Burned Tower/Legendary Beasts artwork], I am inclined to agree with TTE that she seems to be mainly a heavy redesign Kris/Crystal, and she will definitely be named the latter when I play her in ''SoulSilver''( now that I feel pretty sure ''HG''/''SS'' will be thirdversionless like ''FR/LG''). But there is something to be said for putting her at her NPC name, unless she is nameable as an NPC, in which case I say merge to Kris for sure. The REAL question we should be asking is what we do with '''''Gold''''' if '''''his''''' NPC name is nothing like “Gold”. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 13:11, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
::Eusine's design hardly changed from his Crystal art, at all. The only thing that stands out as "major" is the designs on his suit. Everything else is basically the same (unless you consider adding lines to his hair a major addition, or that his one bang flipped sides). [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 13:41, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Sorry, I think I said that badly. Wasn’t saying Eusine looks weird. Should be more clear now. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 14:41, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
::::To answer your question, if Gold gets a new NPC name, then the obvious solution is to create a new article for him with regards to HG/SS, and leave [[Gold (game)]] solely for any and all details with regards to G/S/C.
::::But, this has nothing to do with improvement to {{tt|Soul's|Or whoever the heck she is!}} article, so back to point, or continue the discussion somewhere else? '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 15:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, I didn’t mean to start a tangent on it here, just honestly think it’s a more pertinent question than this one. But not one that needs addressing just yet... kinda like this. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 16:19, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
===Hey look, a section break!===
Strange as it may sound, I agree with Mav. Neither side is really gaining any ground here, so we should all just call her what we want to call her, be it "Soul," "Kris," "Maria," etc, and stop yelling at people who don't agree. And it's not like Bulbapedia defines reality. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 08:39, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:But both sides should agree that the name "Soul" for the girl is practically denied. All screens confirm "Heart" as a version name for the girl and the page should be moved. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 08:41, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
While I think she's clearly just supposed to be Crys's equivalent, and Crys in the Special manga will thus have her outfit when she reappears, if the article really MUST use a name to refer to this "new" girl, why the hell is Soul used? The ONLY names that have been seen for her are Heart and Miki, while the MALE character has only been seen with the names Soul and Hiroshi. (Miki and Hiroshi only being used in a wireless battle for the second versions of them.) If there's a name used for her, it should be Heart for now. [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 00:42, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::Soul is mainly used because the FRLG girl was Leaf. Therefore, it's only logical that she'd be named Soul, following Leaf's pattern of being named after the first word in the second game. I say we keep it as Soul until the game comes out, where if it turns out she's Heart we change it then. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 01:37, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::How can this be logical when screens say otherwise? :/ [[User:Erik Destler|~*~ Erik Destler ~*~]] 22:52, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Except to me, it's only logical that she's just the new version of Crys, regardless of what you wanna call her, or what she's called when she's an NPC. (I'm betting the boy won't be named "Gold" when he's an NPC, but he doesn't have a separate page from the G/S/C versions' boy. Odds are very likely that the boy and girl will get 'real' names just like gen 3 and 4 gave them.) Bottom line is that "Soul" has never been used in any way for her; it's nothing but speculation, and thus it should not be presented as such on an encyclopedia. [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 02:10, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::That's why we have the template... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:30, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::If you mean the "has no official name", that doesn't change the fact she's referred to as Soul throughout the article, which has lead to everyone annoyingly calling her as such like it's official. The most ridiculous thing is that the Japanese equivalent is there; seriously, what the hell? She should either not be referred to with any name or be called by a name that she's actually been seen having in-game, Heart. Not to mention it should be written in a way that explains where her names come from, rather than misleadingly-worded statements like "Soul is the female player character..." [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 02:45, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Perhaps the best way to approach this for now is to give the article a more neutral point of view with respect to the Kris/Soul debate. Also, I've stated several times on BMGf why I think using the default names isn't an indicator of this girl's identity. Default names have changed from game to game, see [[Gold (game)]]. Chances are, she'll have a new default name in HG/SS, but then again, so will Gold. The best evidence I can think of is to look at the anime and manga. If this girl is introduced as a separate character in those media, we can assume she's a new character in the games, if Crystal and Marina just end up getting new looks, then it's safe to say that this girl is Kris.[[User:Jeff|-Jeff]][[User talk:Jeff|(talk)]] 15:34, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::@ Eric Destler: Screens tell us which names the people who took the screens are using, not which names are default. As others have pointed out, we've seen screens with a number of names for the characters in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum, and none of them were the names we wound up using for the characters. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 23:55, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Guys Kris is Soul. Give me one good reason why Kris isn't Soul.{{unsigned|Pokemon1234567890}}
:::::::::Because she broke Strong Bad's rule about Japanese cartoons. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:51, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:Why cant you all just wait 40 days until the games come out and we can finally have the answer? Soul is an unofficial name. and think about it. Green/Leaf diddnt appear in Red/Blue/Yellow other then that picture in the guidebook. Even then, she was portrayed by her Manga counterpart. In the remakes she got a new look, and was basically a new character. --[[User:Blake|Blake]] 18:04, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, neither side of this argument has any real evidence to support its opinion. At this point, all anyone knows is that there's a female playable character in this game. Some people look at the design and see a radical redesign of Kris; others think it's a new character. The art is the only grounds anyone has for forming an opinion, and this page has certainly proved that that's not a good enough basis for making a decision. Since we've seen that the pre-release screenshots have a history of giving the characters different names from their "real" ones, the text boxes referring to her as "Heart" aren't any help either. In lieu of any new information either way, it would seem most reasonable to me to leave this page as it is until we know more. After all, if this is a redesign of Kris, I don't think anyone can disagree that it has succeeded in making her look like a new character, at least moreso than any previous redesign. We don't have any concrete information, so there's really nothing to do but wait. Bickering over whether Kris and "Soul's" hairstyles match obviously isn't going to get us anywhere. Actually, with the ridiculously fierce debate this trivial issue has inspired, I can only hope the girl ends up being named "Cindy." [[User:Kyunji|Kyunji]] 04:54, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Kyunji is right you know! Let's just STOP! It's really annoying! Let's just WAIT! Gees! Why does NO ONE listens!?

Signed,
--[[User:The Bulb's Master|The Bulb's Master]] 18:09, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Master of Bulbasaur and the Turtwig♀
:Wait for what exactly? Nintendo to hold a press conference revealing this girl's identity? It's not going to happen, and no matter what evidence we get, this debate will continue to exist. I'm hoping that we can get some resolution when we find out how the Manga and possibly Anime handle this but I'm not holding my breath. The only thing that is known for now is that some people view her as an updated Kris, and some people view her as a new character. Currently, there are still articles, such as [[Kris (game)]] which refer to "Soul" as a new character. These need to be fixed to be more neutral with respect to the debate. Also, to fix this article, how about merging it with Kris's article, but giving the HG/SS girl her own section along with some background on the Kris/Soul debate?[[User:Jeff|-Jeff]][[User talk:Jeff|(talk)]] 17:21, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::I agree. I think the primary reason most of the fandom is treating this as a new girl named Soul is because of the BP page. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 17:39, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I just think once we play the game and learn more of the storyline behind her, then we might have more of an idea of who she is. Merging them into one article will be messy, because once the games come out, there will be many things to add to this article, such as Party template(if you battle her), and the list of names to choose from. and she is obviously a new character. Soul really doesnt look much like her. Different hair styles, different clothes, different eye/hair colors, etc. Soul isnt any more a remake of Kris as [[Pearl (game)|Pearl]] is a remake of [[Wally]]. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 20:18, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::Once again: Since we've established that there is no definite evidence to support either side of the argument, it would be illogical to reverse the article's current stance on the situation. Merging this article with Kris's would be an entirely subjective decision, and one could use what little we know now to make an equally valid case for separating the two again. Whatever happens, the nickname "Soul" is certainly here to stay; it's far too late to do anything about that. Personally, I'm fine with it -- if this is indeed a new character, there's precedent for the nomenclature in FRLG -- but unfortunately for those who disagree, it is very hard to remove an idea from the minds of the fanbase once it has been planted. On another note, I would certainly support making the other articles more neutral on the subject, since this has somehow turned into a serious issue. [[User:Kyunji|Kyunji]] 23:28, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Hasn't anyone thought that her name might change if you pick a diffrent starter Pokemon? For example: If you pick Totodile, her name is Kris. And if you pick a Chikitora, it's Heart! No one ever thought of that! Signed,--[[User:The Bulb's Master|The Bulb's Master]] 12:51, 5 August 2009 (UTC) Master of Bulbasaur and Turtwig♀
:That is very unlikely. The rival's Pokemon usually has an advantage over yours, and the Female's Pokemon usualy is whatever is left.(Although May/Brendan isnt considered your rival?) It has nothing to do with the names. The names are based on which version game you are playing. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 13:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
::Having watched this go nowhere for months, I have no hesitation in saying [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/index.php get to the forums] if you really want to theorize. There will be no solution to this debate, and hence Bulbapedia will stay with this ''temporary'' name until something more official comes out. End of story. Don't reply here. Srsly. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:31, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree, I can see it that we might have to ban this if it get out of hand in forums and Bulbapedia.--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 03:30, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Look, with the games announced here now, Pokémon.com will soon have pictures of the player characters (I give it a week or two) and one of us can write in and say: "I wemembew in Pokemon Cwystal, you could be a girl too, is this the same one?" then we'll have confirmation and we can wait to learn her pseudo-rival name to make it official (in less than a month).--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:35, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::I don't mean to get in the heat of the arguement here, but i have a question. Why are we calling her Soul? I'm neutral on the aspect of she is Kris or not (nor could i care), but if she's being called Heart in all the screenshots so far, and Gold being called Soul, why is she being called Soul? It's weird to base it off of one game's name. Wouldn't it be best to call her by the name she's being called in the screenshots? [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 05:48, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::When FireRed and LeafGreen were made, they introduced a female playable character. It was later discovered that her name was Leaf, the prefix of the second remake name. Because of this, people gave this girl the name Soul. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 05:57, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Not to sound rude but... so what? In the screenshots, the guy is being referred to as Soul (well, Souru-Kun. Same thing) and she's being referred to as Heart. So wouldn't it be more correct to call her Heart? I don't think it matters what happened in Leaf Green, considering it makes no difference to this game at all. If the screenshots call her Heart, why can't we call her Heart? Even if we don't... its really incorrect to call her Soul because thats what the guy (known as Gold in the originals) is being referred to. Very confusing, if you ask me. o.O [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 20:47, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Don't preach to me. I gave you the answer you were looking for, and I wasn't the one who named this page. It's not like it matters anyway. The Games come out in less then a month and then all will be set straight. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:49, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

===Section break 2===
Does any1 remember what was said on the remake speculation page? once doesn't make a pattern. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 14:48, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:Ok, look, seriously. Did my last "get off the page" rant not work? Listen.
:This is going nowhere. The game comes out in three weeks. It is noted on the page that it is a ''placeholder'' name, until we get the official one. When the game comes out, and we get a name, we'll move it then. And. Only. Then. No discussions.
:If you really feel so passionate about the Soul/Heart/Kris debate, there are more likeminded people [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=368 right here]. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:05, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
::Has anyone actually thought that another reason for Soul to be Kris can be based on comparison of the female player character's artwork from RGBY and FRLG? Leaf doesn't look like anything as the Gen I girl yet they're the same characters and this is confirmed by the manga since it's based on the games. Likely, Leaf might not even be her real name, which means it's Blue. For English versions, she might be called Green unless we believe that FRLG fixed the RB fiasco. Also, for those that say the girl's Heart and that Gold is Soul, have you forgotten that those are example names like Diamond and Plato are for Lucas, right? Thus, the screenshots might be from SS. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:04, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Leaf's her name. Confirmed by game data. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:34, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah, you're right. I don't even know why I thought otherwise when I wrote that, seriously. But my point remains valid though. I'm still doubtful that Gold is now Hibiki and Soul is Kotone, just because of the anime and Pokémon Sunday. Marina is Kris' anime counterpart but they didn't get the same name. So Kotone is still Soul for me. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 12:34, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::In the games she is Kotone. Deal with it. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 13:36, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::I won't get over it until the games have been hacked through and the data for both Gold and Soul has been obtained, like everyone else. And by your logic, then Dia and Pearl should've been the Japanese names for Lucas and Dawn, when they're obviously not. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 13:43, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

== A vast redesign? ==
She could just be a vast redesign of [[Kris (game)|Kris]]. The hair color change could be to get out of the Crystal theme, and Lorelei's hair went from deep purple to bright red. Both Lucas's and Dawn's outfuts changed vastly, so, my opinion is she's a redesign. [[User:Alec9|''alec'''9''''']] [[Special:Contributions/Alec9|*]] [[User talk:Alec9|-]] [[Gallade (Pokémon)|*]] 18:12, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

hey i'm new at this but if kotone/lyra is different from Kris then on the new pokemon adventure coming this april would it kotone/lyra not kris that will appear on the manga and also note that if kris is not kotone/lyra then ethan is also not gold thereby making new characters... also not that the name kris is only fan made it could be that her real name was undecided that time and she really is meant to be called kotone/lyra also note the sudden change of hair color of kris in the manga it could imply taht she is a drastic redesign of kris like ethan is to gold see the manga pictures it looks a lot like kotone/lyra so I say we can fuse them together...[[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 11:11, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
:They will probably make Kris be away doing some sort of errand/quest, and introduce Lyra as a new character. Gold is probably the same character as Ethan, and I doubt they would be as lame as to make Ethan a new character. Also note that the Manga doesnt use names like "May, Brendan, Lucas, Barry, Dawn, etc". So Lyra will probably be named Soul or something like that. But this isn't a discussion to have on talkpages. This is a discussion for the forums. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:54, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

:okay i don't know where the forums is and where to post so could you actually attach a link to it but for now i would like to pose this.<s>File:Kotoneevolve.JPG</s>file was deleted see the resemblance '''and also who have said that the playable character girl in pokemon crystal version was named kris nobody said that it is just fan made.''' like how ethan and gold be it is just a redesign... so could we merge it and say it is just a vast redesign... i would accept she really is a different character if she has another character than the one in manga...[[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 13:00, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
::[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=368 HGSS forums]. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:17, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

i hat to relive this issue but does the pokemon adventure shows Kris with a lyra design meaning that she really is a vast design of the character so i plead for another merge...[[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 05:52, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

== Possible names ==

Okay lemme put these forward:
* ソウル ''Soul'' (based on precedent set by {{ga|Leaf}})
* ミキ ''Miki'' (default name used in Festa battle)
* ハート ''Heart'' (default name used in Festa battle)
* コトネ ''Kotone'' (according to [http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/9950/400760.jpg this])
* クリス ''Kris'' (Crystal, thanks)
* マリナ ''Marina'' (why not?)

Or it could be something completely out of the blue. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:04, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
:I think they called her Kotone in the anime as well. According to that scan anyway. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:05, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
::Still doesn't mean anything until the games say it. All the game/anime connection can help us with is her dub name for the episode, due to the {{an|May}}/{{ga|May}} and {{an|Dawn}}/{{ga|Dawn}} connection. And unless they rename Green as Gary and Red as Ash, that's still an up-in-the-air point. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:18, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
:I'm done with the whole Kris/Soul debate as it's completely ridiculous and dependent on one's definition of the word "character". That said, I still think this article belongs merged with [[Kris (game)]] for the sake of consistency with [[Gold (game)]].[[User:Jeff|-Jeff]][[User talk:Jeff|(talk)]] 14:25, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
::Regarding the so-called "precedent" set by Fire Red and Leaf Green, something happening once does not make it a pattern. [[User:Fishman|Fishman]] 18:56, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
:::I know, right? :/ But people don't listen. But judging by the screenshots, she appears as an NPC in game. So we'll have clarification that her name is Heart when the game is out. [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 19:06, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Did you guys ''REALLY'' have to reopen old wounds? The page was protected because of ranting like this. You want it to happen again? DROP IT. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 19:09, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

== The Final Judgment ==
Pokémon Sunday just confirmed Kotone to be her name in the games. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 23:26, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
:That's it! That's pretty much solid evidence! Is it not?! [[User:Alec9|''alec'''9''''']] [[Special:Contributions/Alec9|*]] [[User talk:Alec9|-]] [[Gallade (Pokémon)|*]] 23:44, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Rain: How does this confirm she's not Kris again?
Remember, Gold has a new name too, it's Hibiki. He's not a new character though. It confirms her name, yes. But I say wait for the slight chance of the opposite gender being nameable and the girl being referred as 'Soul/Heart' confirming she's a new character.

Speaking of Hibiki, why isn't Gold (game) moved to Hibiki (game)?
EDIT: Even if she looked exactly like Kris, would anyone honestly expect her have to her pre-set name to be such? I'm doubtful people would be saying it confirms her being a new character if she looked exactly like Kris, but was still named Kotone. I can see why people see the anime thing as a confirmation, but ''this''? Gold and Kris didn't co-exist originally, so they didn't have normal common names. You guys may as well jump the gun and make a new article for the new male playable character, Hibiki. They can look exactly alike to be the different characters too, Cal anyone? {{unsigned|Raine}}

:Can you please go to the forum about this? We are totally sick of the arguments. For now, Gold is Gold and Kotone is Kotone. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:25, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

== Why remove all hints of Soul? ==

Shouldn't there be a trivia section mentioning that fans named her Soul and that she was referred to as Soul since she was revealed to this day? We do it for Silver saying how fans named him "Kamon". It's a big part of Kotone's history. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:08, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks! --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:26, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

As for the trivia section, the page refers to her as having a Gold and Silver counterpart, shouldn't that be changed to Crystal as she never did have a G/S counterpart?--[[User:Terrios|Terrios]] 12:52, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

== As for her anime appearance ==

Remember what happened when [[Barry]] debuted. He wasn't part of {{ga|Pearl}}'s page for a reason: they're different characters. Same with {{an|Dawn}}-- she's barely mentioned on {{ga|Dawn}}'s page, and game-Dawn is not at all reflected on anime-Dawn's page.

So when Kotone appears in the anime, she'll be at {{an|Kotone}}. Until we get English names. Then we move both of these to the respective English names like we did Dawn and May.

Everyone got that? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:14, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, TTE, most of us do remember what happen with Barry (or Jun for awhile). No1 make a page of Kotone until the Episodes ([[DP143]]/[[DP144]]) air. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 02:59, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

== Her name actually is Soul. ==

I told my friend(who speaks Japanese fluently) about Soul being named Kotone, and he said Kotone is Soul in Japanese. So really, her name is Soul? '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 13:37, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:Until the games are released, she'll remain Soul. For me, Kotone is to Soul what Diamond and Plato were to Lucas, placeholders used by Nintendo to showcase the games. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 13:49, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::I am just saying, because I dont want everyone to change every single link and image name yet. Get a real translator(not google translator) and see what it says. Cause my friend said he looked in his Japanese dictionary and thats what it said. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:19, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::It should stay at Kotone because that is her name in Japanese. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 14:21, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Where have Hibiki and Kotone been revealed to be Gold's and Soul's names? In Pokémon Sunday? Those names sound more like examples than the characters' real names. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 15:08, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well Kotone is still better than Soul. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 15:09, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::How is Kotone a better name then Soul? Still, the point is, the Pokemon sunday thing might have called her Kotone because Kotone is Soul in Japanese. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 15:53, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::No, Kotone DOES NOT mean "Soul" in Japanese. Even if it did, we DO NOT translate names like that. It's like saying that Dawn is called "Light" in Japanese. But Kotone does not mean soul, anyway. It means "sound of a koto (harp)". --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 17:36, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

== Can someone change something for me plz ==

Can they change 6 September 2009's to September 6, 2009's that sounds a lot better. Plus I can't change it.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 15:17, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:That's odd...you should be able to...it's not protected anymore...--'''Dark''' [[Mask of Ice|'''ICE''']] (User:Cold)([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 15:23, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::Only established editors can edit it. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 15:56, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

== Page name ==

Why does it need to be "Kotone (game)", with "Kotone" being a redirect? If she's the only Kotone, her page should just be "Kotone", and, if there are others, "Kotone" needs to be a disambiguation page rather than a redirect. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 07:52, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:There is a change she will be named that in the anime. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 07:53, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::Same as with {{ga|Pearl}} and {{ga|May}} and {{ga|Dawn}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:09, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

== Pronunciation? ==

I know this is a bit daft, but how do you pronounce Kotone's name? Is it KO-toan, ko-TOAN-ee or ko-TOAN-ay? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 20:24, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:I have no idea myself, but I've been pronouncing it "Koh-toe-nee". [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 00:02, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
::It's "Koh-toh-neh". →''[[User:Tina|'''T'''inā]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 00:06, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
:::According to Marriland and his videos, Its "Koh-toh-nay"[[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 21:40, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
I have been saying it as Ko-tone(tone as in monotone)[[User:Evandeck|Evandeck]] 15:33, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
:Check your Japanese, then. Ko-to-ne. コトネ. コ (ko) ト (to) ネ (ne). Hiragana and katakana are syllabic script, kanji is logographic. Unlike rōmaji, of course, which we use (Roman characters), which are... letters. The only single-letter syllables in Japanese are ア/あ(a), イ/い (i), ウ/う (u), エ/え (e), オ/お (o), and ン/ん (n); all others are transliterated as more than one letter (at most three). Anything that's not hiragana, katakana, or rōmaji is kanji... and for that... well, that requires memorization, considering each can have ''several'' pronunciations and thus several romanizations. Now let's let 琴音 continue her journey in 城都 (way to go copy/paste from the {{wp|list of jōyō kanji}}). '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:42, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

== Kotone in japan. ==

This may be a stupid question but, don't you think Kotone is just her japenese name? Lunick v sonela 07:20, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
:Uhh... yeah. It's only in the infobox because it looks better than a blank. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 07:23, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
::No I mean won't they call her something else when they get to english speaking contries. Lunick v sonela 08:17, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Most likely, yes, she will have an English name just like every other character. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:19, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

I maybe new here, but I've done a lot of research before. We know that Kotone means harp; lute, sound, right?
So, here's a quick detour of past names. 1st: When Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire were released in Japan, May's japanese name reveiled as Haruka which means spring/flowers, of course, in Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal, there was a twin trainer at the bug gym that had names of Amy and MAY, but by the time R/S/E were in USA, another clue was reveiled within the game that, when D/P came out in Japan, Dawn's name in japanese means light, so in the 3rd generation R/S/E, there was a Swimmer (Female) by Regice's chamber named DAWN, now that D/P/Plat. came out, yet another well played clue hides in the game. With HGSS coming out in Japan, we hear this new trainer named Kotone, which means, like I said, harp, lute; sound. Now here's where my prediction comes in. One of you meantioned a japanese friend saying Kotone means Soul, but you're all close! What is the only thing that has a soul? The answer is Angels! What names have the word Angel in it? Two of them: Angelica, which has too many letters in it, and Angela, which has all 7 spaces filled, but where does this have to do with the 2nd/3rd generation? Answer: In the Eterna City Gym, a Aroma Lady had the name ANGELA!
Conclusion: By looking in the games of the past, there will be clues. It happened the same in R/S when they talked about Kanto and they made FR/LG, and in D/P/Plat, they meantioned a few things about Johto, which made HGSS.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Poke.trainer.1}} ([[User talk:Poke.trainer.1|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Poke.trainer.1|contribs]]) ''
:Erm... let's wait 'til it comes out for the English name.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 22:19, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
::I'll wait too. [[User:Lunick v sonela|Lunick v sonela]] 13:49, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Those Trainer Names from previous generations are a coincidence. I wouldn't believe them. It's a very far-fetched and naive theory. We must wait. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 13:56, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
::::It's like saying that her name will be something like Sonora or Melody simply because they follow the HGSS sound-based naming conventions. Also "Angela" has six letters in it, not seven. ...Yeah that's not the point of this discussion, but hey. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 14:12, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::Something has to be put in there, so until the english name comes out keep it there.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We are the Void 23:44, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

== Yes, I'm new, but ==

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:HGSS_Kotone_Pokéthlon_Jersey.png - This ain't fan art, and I uploaded it, but I can't seem to edit the page and add it. Meh well. Same case with http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:HGSS_Hibiki_Pokéthlon_Jersey.png . -- [[User:Sotomura|Sotomura]] 05:39, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
:Gold/Hibiki's page is locked, so only admins can edit it. As for Kotone's, it's set so only "established users" can edit it, whatever that means. :P I can add the Kotone sprite if you'd like... where in the game is it from, exactly? [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:42, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
::I'd tell you to read the description, but I have to consider that I'm not the only lazy one. Anyway, it's their Pokéthlon sprites from HeartGold/SoulSilver. -- [[User:Sotomura|Sotomura]] 05:50, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

== Anime counterpart only? ==

"Due to the recent release of the games, no more counterparts for Kotone in other media have currently been released."

I do believe I saw a scan of her in some manga. Anyone want to look into that? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:44, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
:From what I've read, the artwork your thinking of is of [[Crystal (Special)|Crystal]] [[User:ShinyPikachu/Petition|Never Give Up]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 20:59, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
::No...there was a scan of her in some manga...I think that's where we first saw her name. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 21:21, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, what Sketch said. This is the pic
:::http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/9950/400760.jpg
:::--[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:18, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
:::That scan is from a one-shot manga called ''Pocket Monsters HeartGold SoulSilver - Go! Go! Pokethlon'' by Ihara Shigekatsu and Hibiki also showed up in that manga, except his name was Takashi. It was released before the actual game, so I can see why Ihara named accidently named him that instead. Of course, it could be like Mistumi's and Hareta's situations.--[[User:Raine|Raine]] 19:33, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

== Do we know for sure that Hibiki/Kotone didn't take the third starter? ==
In the trivia section, it says Kotone is the only pseudo rival not to have a starter. (I'm wondering why it's not on Hibiki's page.) However, early in the game, they are seen with a different Pokemon, Zubat, so Marill isn't their only Pokemon not to mention later in the game the player sees thast the third starter is gone and asks him/herself said question. They could of taken the third starter, Marill might just be their first Pokemon in their party and we know that they have more than one Pokemon, so it's possible.
:Unless they are actually seen WITH the starter, it is speculation and it will not go in the article. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 16:17, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
::There's still a Poké Ball in Elm's lab, so it's pretty likely that Kotone/Hibiki doesn't have one of the actual Johto starters. →''[[User:Tina|'''T'''inā]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 16:26, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
:::No, no Tina...the Poké Ball disappears...but we don't know where to. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 16:54, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Ooooh... heh. Japanese is a little lackluster. <_<; Assumed that it said something about a Poké Ball still being in there. HUR DISREGARD THAT. →''[[User:Tina|'''T'''inā]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 16:56, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

==Protection Next Week?==

Well, [[DP143]] is airing stateside next week, in which [[Kotone (anime)|Kotone]] will appear in the show. I was thinking that maybe this article should be protected next week since we won't know 100% if the name given to the anime version will be the same as the games. I mean sure there's really no reason they wouldn't be the same, but just in case maybe? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 13:16, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
:I agree that it's pretty much guaranteed that the anime name used for her will be the same as the game one, but we're not moving the game one ''or'' {{ga|Gold}} until March 15. Because we'll be sure then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:34, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

==English name==
It has been stated on Serebii.net that her english name is Lyra, but you guys are going to wait until its offically revealed, right? [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 23:22, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:Indeed. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:42, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
::Where did Serebii ever say that was her name? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 23:47, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:::It's on their front page. Pokemon.com says it too. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:49, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
::::It didn't say it when this was posted. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 00:18, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Lol, yeah it did, I'm not psychic. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 00:20, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Not on my computer. I refreshed like 5 times and nothing new was posted. Anyway, why is the official site distrusted so much. It's the official site and they have never been wrong about an English name. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 00:22, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:I think sometimes it gives out not false, but information with errors in it. I couldn't give you any example though. Well, I could if I really wanted to look, but sometimes in the naming of the episodes. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 00:34, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::Just wait for the episode to air... it's just easier. And although it's been the trend for the past forever, her anime name is not neccesarily her game name anyways. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 00:36, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::You're wrong about not making a mistake about an English name. [[Roman]] and [[Kylie]] had different names in their synopsis. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 00:39, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Wow, two in a line of hundreds. Doesn't make the '''official''' site untrustworthy. Not to mention I changed Marcus's guide to his dub name when the Movie 12 site launched and no admin changed it back. I don't see why this has to be different. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:39, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::I personally think the Pokémon website is credible enough, however, the rule is we have to wait until the episode airs, especially because she's such a high-profile character. The page won't explode if it doesn't move for five days :P --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:33, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, I realize that. It's just stupid that the admins don't trust the official site, except for rare circumstances. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 07:39, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::It's not false. It's the correct name. Don't be ignorant. If Pokemon.com says it then that's an official source saying it. You can't trust an official source one time and then not another. Life doesn't work like that --[[User:Serebii|Serebii]] 08:18, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::I agree with Serebii. Her anime name IS Lyra, and Kotone (anime) SHOULD be renamed Lyra (anime). Or possibly just "Lyra", as we don't know if that'll be her name in the games. If it turns out to be wrong, it can be changed again, right? [[User:FireMeowth|FireMeowth]] 11:39, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::OMG... It's been like this for years now. You know the drill. Why are you all whining about this? And Serebii, we're not being ignorant. We just don't want to change names everywhere in case it turns out wrong. Pokemon.com has been wrong before. Just wait until Saturday. It's not a big deal. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 16:42, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Because its a stupid rule. Official site is an official source. They've been wrong a couple times, doesn't mean it's untrustworthy. Not to mention they've never given wrong names to characters. All of those have been done by CN. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 21:47, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Lol, omg u guys. Just wait 4 days, it's not the end of the world. Don't forget, Pokemon.com got [[Ada]]'s name wrong, calling her Audrey. And also, [[Kylie]], [[Roman]], and [[Thatcher]] as well. So just calm down, and wait. Bulbapedia has rules that we have to follow. No exceptions. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 22:07, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::If everyone's going to make such a big stink of it, how about something like this as a compromise? In the trivia section:
::::::::On February 1, 2010, Pokémon.com announced the name of her anime counterpart to be Lyra, but as of {{#time: F j, Y}} is the only official source to have done so.
:::::::[[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 22:08, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::That would be alright, but you'd have to do it to Hibiki/Ethan/Gold, and the rocket admins as well for people to stop complaining? [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 22:19, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::They're a different story, because so far as I know they haven't been announced by any official source yet, have they? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 22:33, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yes they have, they announced their names on serebii, and the same debate is going on on Gold's page as well. I dunno about Team Rocket's, i don't have them on my watchlist. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 22:35, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Serebii's not an official source. And although he must have gotten the names from somewhere, that somewhere might not be an official source either. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 22:48, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Lol, which brings us right back to the top of the discussion again. I think it is a good idea to put it on the trivia, do what you want to do, Umeko, kay? [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 22:54, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::It should be in the trivia section of the anime character, though. [[User:FireMeowth|FireMeowth]] 22:59, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::I couldn't edit it in even if I wanted. Talk to an admin about it, not me. \o/ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 23:04, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::No trivia section. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:15, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Like I said, Bulbapedia may have it's rules, but not trusting the official source for one confirmed mistake doesn't make them untrustworthy. They could have easily changed their minds about character names just like they did with the episode titles [[EP070]] and [[DP091]]. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:56, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
:They could change their minds again. Nothing's stopping them. They could make her Jeena and Gold Rick by March 14, though likely the games are 99.9% ready to go at this point in time. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:33, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

== Korean Name ==

Because of page block I can't put it. It's 금선 ''Geumseon''. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:15, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
:Done. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 10:22, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

== The name's Lyra ==

Yup. It is. --[[User:Poke nav|Po]][[User talk:Poke nav|ké]][[Special:Contributions/Poke nav|nav]]. [[User:Poke nav/Glitch|Is]] [[User:Poke nav/User Boxes|a]] [[User:Poke nav/Histories|glitch]] [[User:Poke nav/Manga|master!]] 01:28, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:Do people not read the talk page at all before posting? We ''just'' talked about this. :/ It's not going on the page before the game's released. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 01:49, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::That's totally unfair! I'm going to ask TPCI whether or not they're naming her Lyra. ''Then'' you will have ''concrete'' proof! [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 14:10, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Nope. We're still going to wait a month for HGSS to be released in English. That's just our policy. :| ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 16:11, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Is anyone going to atleast put that the animé counterpart's name is Lyra? At the moment it says she has the same name as her - and we're still calling game-Kotone Kotone. :S [[User:Lucadan|'''''Lucadan''''']] [[User talk:Lucadan|'''''(Talk)''''']] 11:51, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Just saying, the new demos for the English release are out and the pokegear phonebook lists the name as Lyra. If that's not confirmation I do not know what is. --[[User:Ryuutakeshi|Ryuutakeshi]] 08:35, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiKzP7-h62E

Watch it. On the phone list it has her name. It's Lyra. Watch in full screen if you have to. That confirms her name as Lyra 100%. You cannot change her name like you can Silver's, so Lyra is the official name. ~~{{unsigned|Ksemanr}}
: Lyra also appears as her name in a German demo posted on Filb. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 05:52, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

== Name Changing ==

shouldn't we change all of her names to Lyra instead of leaving them as kotone. {{u|Eevee obsessed 008}}
:[[#English name|We've talked about this]] in [[#The name's Lyra|Two sections already]]. Until HGSS releases in English, she's staying Kotone. While it's highly unlikely that the name won't be different from her {{an|Lyra|anime counterpart}}, the English localizing team still could change something. We're not going to jump the gun. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 21:20, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
The english rom has been dumped and it says Lyra.

== Kotone's Korean name ==

It means "String of a harp". 금 → a type of harp (I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a koto) and 선 → string. So that ties into her Japanese name. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 00:42, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
:If I could, I'd also add the Hanja: 琴線 (as we have Kanji for Japanese explanation). --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:44, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==
Both Kotone's and Gold's HG/SS artwork are holding one normal pokéball and Pokédex. Shouldn't this be in trivia?--[[User:Banetoid|Banetoid]] 05:45, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
:How is that trivia at all?[[User:Pokelova|''ポケモン恋人'']][[User talk:Pokelova|''(チャット)'']][[Special:Contributions/Pokelova|''(貢献)'']] 09:26, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:It's not even a Pokédex, that's a Pokégear. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 15:38, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

== Is it noteworthy? ==

Should it be noted in trivia that Lyra's name is 3 letters away Crystal, the game of which her predecessor debuted? [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 23:03, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
:Hm... I'd say it isn't notable. It's likely a total coincidence. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 23:48, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

== I can't get proof but my game lied ==

Lyra phoned my player character and said her maril had evolved, but then I visited her house and it hadn't, has this happend to anyone else? [[User:Vespitomb|Vespi]][[User Talk:Vespitomb|tomb>]] 09:36, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:It has happened to numerous people, most famously TTEchidna was the one that brought it to my attention. I don't know exactly why she does this it could be a translation error or something else. -'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 09:42, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
::It happened to me multiple times in the same game, probably something the creators over looked, or She (or he if you choose the female character) has multiple Marill.--[[User:QX Deoxys|QX Deoxys]] 06:11, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Hibiki has never called me with such news. He just tells me a bunch of other bullshit. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 06:12, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

== Zubat? ==

Someone said that early on Lyra is seen with one. Where and when? --[[User:Swampert rox|'''Swampert''']][[User talk:Swampert rox|'''rox''']] 17:50, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

== Kris is Lyra ==

Just thought you oughta know. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:17, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, that's a really great way to open up a discussion on the matter, TTE. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 06:19, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Aren't they supposed to be different characters of different generations?--[[User:QX Deoxys|QX Deoxys]] 06:20, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
:Only as much as {{ga|Red}} isn't the same guy in RGBY GSC FRLG HGSS... and he damn well is. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:28, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
::Please, TTE. Adventures giving Crystal Lyra's clothes is no proof that they were ever intended to be the same person. They just didn't bother creating a new, similar character (and they couldn't just remove Crystal). Oh, if you have any other reason to believe they're the same, please tell us about it. [[User:FireMeowth|FireMeowth]] 06:42, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Persons interested in this discussion may wish to see also [[Talk:Kris (game)]]. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:51, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
::::FireMeowth, {{ga|Leaf}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:54, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::Like I said on Kris's page, just because they're the same in the manga does not make them the same in the games. If you're using the manga as proof for them being in-game the same, then the anime is equal proof that they're different in-game.
:::::And Leaf at least had the same hair color. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 22:21, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::Take Kris's sprite with Gold's palette in Gen II. HEY LOOK, HI LYRA. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:48, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::But it was ''never confirmed.'' You can vouch similarities all you want, but confirmation is something you don't have. MangaKris=/=GameKris, and thus Kris=Lyra is not set in stone like you're claiming it to be.[[User:Reign|Reign]] 01:09, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::How about this? Leaf isn't Green's counterpart either, despite the fact that Green wears Leaf's clothes in the Adventures chapter on ''her saga's'' remakes. If Crystal is Lyra's Adventures counterpart, then Lyra is obviously intended to be a redesign of Kris, much as Leaf is intended to be a redesign of the unreleased Gen I female player character. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:10, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
:If that was the case, then Lyra and Marina would be the same person too. Which they're not. It's simply Kris dressed in Lyra's clothing. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:27, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
::Right. She's the same in the manga, so what? If you're using that as an argument for the ''game'' versions being the same, then the anime is just as legitimate an argument for them being different. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 02:41, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
:::How does the manga characters being the same mean that the game characters were "obviously" intended to be the same? They are made by completely different people, and the official Pokemon company has no say in what Pokemon Adventures does. If some other manga spin off said Pearl and Wally are the same people, would you merge them? Just because Tajiri endorsed it many years ago does not mean everything in it is cannon. So everything you are saying about "Kris+Gold=Lyra" and whatnot is just speculation and is very unprofessional. You can't merge the game characters pages just because a third party manga said they are the same. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 02:48, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

Can we take out the piece of trivia "Previously to the announcement of Lyra's name on September 6th, 2009's episode of Pokémon Sunday, she was seen by many fans as an updated form of Kris, rather than a new character."? While I'm not going to argue that I still think they could be the same, they "changed" Gold to Hibiki so the Kotone announcement shouldn't be of importance. Takao Unno's comments or her separate anime counterpart might define her a new character, but not revelation of the name Kotone, since Hibiki had a name change as well. [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 22:53, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:So are you saying remove it because the name announcement had nothing to do with being a new character, as Gold was renamed too? '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 01:47, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
::We should probably leave it in, though. I think it's more getting at how everyone was so butthurt that Kotone wasn't a super redesigned Kris. Gold/Hibiki is just a name change, most people accept them as the same character. Kotone and Kris are definitely different. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 02:22, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Then can we change it to the revelation of her separate anime counterpart? It just feels weird considering Hibiki was revealed to have a different name, but that doesn't make him a new character. [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 04:41, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

== Azumarill? ==

During a phone call in HG/SS, Lyra tells the player that her Marill has evolved. --[[User:Sir Gallade|Sir Gallade, The Psy Swordsman §]] 12:11, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:I've gotten that call multiple times. It's never true. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 12:13, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::Does it only say that her Marill has evolved? Because she could have multiple Marill. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 12:51, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
Don't you think she could have stopped it from evolving? I can't remember exactly, but I think that call says "I saw Marill evolving into Azumarill! I was so surprised!" If you think about it, she could have seen it, then recoiled in horror at the thought of her beloved partner changing, and then stopped it! I think it's plausible. [[User:Soul of Dawn|Soul of Dawn]] 15:18, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

== Lyra's height and weight ==
Do to the fact in [[Lucas]], [[Dawn]], & [[Ethan|Ethan's]] Trivia it has there height and weight why not put hers "4'11" (125) & 90.4 (41 kg)" seeing as her page can't be edited right now.[[User:Lamarfll|Lamarfll]] 19:57, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:All done. Seems someone must've forgotten to put it in. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 20:00, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

==Name==

Lyra's name came from the constelation Lyra! {{u|Wildgoose}} December 17 2011 6:20 pm ET
:Name origin is for why the name was chosen, not the etymology of the name. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:37, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

== When called from certain locations ==

Could someone expand that piece of information?
It doesn't really say much and whilst what Lyra says in-game seems pretty obvious (take X PKMN to Route Y for something "interesting"), I have taken my Poliwag to Route 40 and nothing happens. At all. Beach or surfing. [[User:Checker|Checker]] ([[User talk:Checker|talk]]) 18:18, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

== Pokéleathon sprite? ==

I've noticed that the caption for the overworld sprite for the Pokéleathon states that it is 'unused'. This greatly confuses me, for I have seen that sprite ingame, as Lyra enters the back room to start the competition. Could someone explain, please? [[User:IIWinterbreezeII|IIWinterbreezeII]] ([[User talk:IIWinterbreezeII|talk]]) 00:43, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

== Height and Weight in Infobox? ==

Perhaps not the most appropriate place to propose this, but should we maybe place characters' height and weight in their infoboxes, rather than their trivia section? [[User:ArtistKyurem|ArtistKyurem]] ([[User talk:ArtistKyurem|talk]]) 02:40, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
:I think we only know a few character's heights and weights. They've stopped using them as a base of comparison in the games, so there's no way of knowing. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 03:47, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Wally

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corecolor=CED8F6 |
bordercolor={{tcg grass color}} |
name=Wally |
jname=ミツル|
tmname=Mitsuru |
image=Omega Ruby Alpha Sapphire Wally.png |
size=120px |
caption=Art from {{pkmn|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}} |
colors=yes|
age=yes|
years=10|
eyes=Ice blue|
hair=Chartreuse, Tea green|
gender=Male |
hometown=[[Petalburg City]] |
region=[[Hoenn]] |
relatives=[[Wanda]] (cousin), unnamed aunt and uncle, unnamed mother and father |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass={{pkmn|Trainer}}|
game=yes |
generation={{Gen|III}}, {{gen|VI}} |
games={{game3|Ruby and Sapphire|Ruby, Sapphire|s}}, {{v2|Emerald}} {{pkmn|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}} |
leader=no |
team=no |
brain=no |
anime=no |
manga=counterpart |
mangacounterpart={{adv|Wally}} |
}}
'''Wally''' (Japanese: '''ミツル''' ''Mitsuru'') is one of the two [[rival]] characters in {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}, {{v2|Emerald}}, [[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire|Omega Ruby, and Alpha Sapphire]], the other being {{ga|Brendan}}/{{ga|May}}. He is the first rival not to be the {{player}}'s first {{pkmn|battle}}, and the first rival not to have a [[starter Pokémon]].

Wally is a young, sickly boy who just moved to [[Petalburg City]]. Despite his illness, his dream is to train {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}.

His illness is never explained, but his symptoms appear to clear up in clean air, suggesting that it may be {{wp|asthma}}.

==In the games==
===Role===
Wally is a sick young boy who asks [[Norman]], the [[Petalburg Gym]] [[Gym Leader|Leader]], to help him catch a Pokémon before he moves to [[Verdanturf Town]] to live with his aunt and uncle.

[[Norman]] asked his child, the {{player}} of {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}, to assist Wally and loaned Wally a {{p|Zigzagoon}}.

Using this Pokémon, Wally was able to capture a {{p|Ralts}}. While this is the catching tutorial in these games, in the game it is the player who is teaching Wally to catch [[wild Pokémon]].

Wally shows up again later in [[Mauville City]], pleading with his uncle to let him challenge [[Wattson]]. He battles the player to prove his strength, but loses. He decides his uncle is right but says he will train to get stronger.

Wally eventually runs away from home and challenges the player close to the entrance{{sup/3|E}}/at the end{{sup/3|RS}} of {{ho|Victory Road}} in [[Ever Grande City]], seemingly totally recovered from his illness. He remains there, and it is possible to fight him several times per day.

Wally makes a return in the [[remake]]s of Ruby and Sapphire, {{pkmn|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}. This time, instead of {{p|Gardevoir}}, his Ralts evolves into a {{p|Gallade}}. At some point in the game, Wally obtains a [[Key Stone]] and {{DL|Key Stone|Appearance|Mega Pendant}}, allowing his Gallade to [[Mega Evolution|Mega Evolve]]. He also obtains all eight badges as he becomes a Certified Trainer at every Gym during the events at [[Mt. Chimney]].

===Pokémon===
This listing is for Wally's Pokémon in the video games in which he has appeared.

====Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald====
=====Capture tutorial=====
[[Norman]] loans this Pokémon to Wally to show him how to catch Pokémon.
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|classlink=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Wally
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|location=Hoenn Route 102
|locationname=Route 102
|pokemon=1}}
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/3
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|back=yes
|ndex=263
|pokemon=Zigzagoon
|gender=female
|ability=Pickup
|level=7
|type1=Normal
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal}}
{{Party/Footer}}

=====Caught in tutorial=====
{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=280
|pokemon=Ralts
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Growl|move1type=Normal}}

=====First battle=====
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|pokemon=1}}
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/3
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|gender=male
|level=16
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Growl|move1type=Normal
|move2=Confusion|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Double Team|move3type=Normal
|move4=Teleport|move4type=Psychic}}
{{Party/Footer}}

=====Second battle and [[rematch]]es=====
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|bordercolor={{tcg grass color}}
|sprite=Spr RS Wally.png
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|{{Pokémon/3
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|pokemon=Altaria
|gender=male
|level={{tt|44|Second battle}}/{{tt|47|First rematch}}/{{tt|50|Second rematch}}/{{tt|53|Third rematch}}/{{tt|56|Fourth rematch}}
|type1=Dragon|type2=Flying
|ability=Natural Cure
|move1=Safeguard|move1type=Normal
|move2=Dragon Dance|move2type=Dragon
|move3=Aerial Ace|move3type=Flying
|move4=DragonBreath|move4type=Dragon}}
|{{Pokémon/3
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|ndex=301
|pokemon=Delcatty
|gender=female
|level={{tt|43|Second battle}}/{{tt|46|First rematch}}/{{tt|49|Second rematch}}/{{tt|52|Third rematch}}/{{tt|55|Fourth rematch}}
|type1=Normal
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|move1=Sing|move1type=Normal
|move2=Faint Attack|move2type=Dark
|move3=Charm|move3type=Normal
|move4=Assist|move4type=Normal}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=315
|pokemon=Roselia
|gender=male
|level={{tt|44|Second battle}}/{{tt|47|First rematch}}/{{tt|50|Second rematch}}/{{tt|53|Third rematch}}/{{tt|56|Fourth rematch}}
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison
|ability=Poison Point
|move1=Leech Seed|move1type=Grass
|move2=Toxic|move2type=Poison
|move3=Magical Leaf|move3type=Grass
|move4=Giga Drain|move4type=Grass}}
{{Party/Div|color={{tcg grass color light}}}}
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=082
|pokemon=Magneton
|level={{tt|41|Second battle}}/{{tt|44|First rematch}}/{{tt|47|Second rematch}}/{{tt|50|Third rematch}}/{{tt|53|Fourth rematch}}
|type1=Electric|type2=Steel
|ability=Magnet Pull
|move1=Thunderbolt|move1type=Electric
|move2=Tri Attack|move2type=Normal
|move3=Screech|move3type=Normal
|move4=Supersonic|move4type=Normal}}
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=282
|pokemon=Gardevoir
|gender=male
|level={{tt|45|Second battle}}/{{tt|48|First rematch}}/{{tt|51|Second rematch}}/{{tt|54|Third rematch}}/{{tt|57|Fourth rematch}}
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic
|move2=Double Team|move2type=Normal
|move3=Future Sight|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Calm Mind|move4type=Psychic}}
{{Party/Footer}}

====Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire====
=====Capture tutorial=====
[[Norman]] loans this Pokémon to Wally to show him how to catch Pokémon.
{{Party/Single
|color={{tcg grass color light}}
|headcolor=CED8F6
|bordercolor={{tcg grass color}}
|sprite=VSWally.png
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|name=Wally
|game=ORAS
|location=Hoenn Route 102
|locationname=Route 102
|pokemon=1}}
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/6
|back=yes
|ndex=263
|pokemon=Zigzagoon
|gender=female
|level=7
|type1=Normal
|ability=Pickup|ability2=Gluttony
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Tail Whip|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Status
|move4=Sand Attack|move4type=Ground|move4cat=Status}}
{{Party/Footer}}

=====Caught in tutorial=====
{{Pokémon/6
|ndex=280
|pokemon=Ralts
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Psychic|type2=Fairy
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Growl|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status}}

=====First battle=====
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|class=Pokémon Trainer
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|game=ORAS
|location=Mauville City
|pokemon=1}}
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/6
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|pokemon=Ralts
|gender=male
|level=17
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|type2=Fairy
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|move2=Lucky Chant|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Magical Leaf|move3type=Grass|move3cat=Special
|move4=Disarming Voice|move4type=Fairy|move4cat=Special}}
{{Party/Footer}}

=====Second battle=====
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|{{Pokémon/6
|ndex=334
|pokemon=Altaria
|gender=male
|level=46
|type1=Dragon|type2=Flying
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|move1=Aerial Ace|move1type=Flying|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Safeguard|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Dragon Pulse|move3type=Dragon|move3cat=Special
|move4=Cotton Guard|move4type=Grass|move4cat=Status}}
|{{Pokémon/6
|ndex=301
|pokemon=Delcatty
|gender=female
|level=46
|type1=Normal
|ability=Cute Charm
|move1=Sing|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status
|move2=Disarming Voice|move2type=Fairy|move2cat=Special
|move3=Charm|move3type=Fairy|move3cat=Status
|move4=Feint Attack|move4type=Dark|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/6
|ndex=315
|pokemon=Roselia
|gender=female
|level=46
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison
|ability=Poison Point
|move1=Synthesis|move1type=Grass|move1cat=Status
|move2=Leech Seed|move2type=Grass|move2cat=Status
|move3=Petal Blizzard|move3type=Grass|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison|move4cat=Status}}
{{Party/Div|color={{tcg grass color light}}}}
|style="margin:auto"|{{Pokémon/6
|ndex=082
|pokemon=Magneton
|level=46
|type1=Electric
|type2=Steel
|ability=Sturdy
|move1=Screech|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status
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|style="margin:auto"|{{Pokémon/6
|ndex=475
|pokemon=Gallade
|gender=male
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|held=Galladite
|move1=Psycho Cut|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Physical
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|move4=Swords Dance|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}
{{Party/Footer}}

=====Third battle=====
{{Party/Single
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|class=Pokémon Trainer
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|{{Pokémon/6
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|pokemon=Altaria
|gender=male
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|move1=Aerial Ace|move1type=Flying|move1cat=Physical
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|move3=Dragon Pulse|move3type=Dragon|move3cat=Special
|move4=Cotton Guard|move4type=Grass|move4cat=Status}}
|{{Pokémon/6
|ndex=301
|pokemon=Delcatty
|gender=female
|level=64
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|move1=Sing|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status
|move2=Disarming Voice|move2type=Fairy|move2cat=Special
|move3=Charm|move3type=Fairy|move3cat=Status
|move4=Feint Attack|move4type=Dark|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/6
|ndex=407
|pokemon=Roserade
|gender=female
|level=64
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison
|ability=Poison Point
|move1=Synthesis|move1type=Grass|move1cat=Status
|move2=Leech Seed|move2type=Grass|move2cat=Status
|move3=Petal Blizzard|move3type=Grass|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison|move4cat=Status}}
{{Party/Div|color={{tcg grass color light}}}}
|style="margin:auto"|{{Pokémon/6
|ndex=462
|pokemon=Magnezone
|level=64
|type1=Electric|type2=Steel
|ability=Sturdy
|move1=Screech|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status
|move2=Discharge|move2type=Electric|move2cat=Special
|move3=Tri Attack|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Special
|move4=Flash Cannon|move4type=Steel|move4cat=Special}}
|style="margin:auto"|{{Pokémon/6
|ndex=475
|pokemon=Gallade
|gender=male
|level=66
|type1=Psychic|type2=Fighting
|ability=Steadfast
|held=Galladite
|move1=Psycho Cut|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Close Combat|move2type=Fighting|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Slash|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Swords Dance|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}
{{Party/Footer}}

=====Fourth battle onwards=====
{{Party/Single
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|bordercolor={{tcg grass color}}
|headcolor=CED8F6
|sprite=VSWally.png
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|class=Pokémon Trainer
|classlink=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Wally
|game=ORAS
|location=Battle Maison
|pokemon=6}}
|{{Pokémon/6
|ndex=407
|pokemon=Roserade
|gender=female
|level=79
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison
|ability=Poison Point
|held=Bright Powder
|move1=Shadow Ball|move1type=Ghost|move1cat=Special
|move2=Leech Seed|move2type=Grass|move2cat=Status
|move3=Petal Blizzard|move3type=Grass|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Poison Jab|move4type=Poison|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/6
|ndex=663
|pokemon=Talonflame
|gender=male
|level=79
|type1=Fire|type2=Flying
|ability=Gale Wings
|held=Life Orb
|move1=Brave Bird|move1type=Flying|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Flare Blitz|move2type=Fire|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Steel Wing|move3type=Steel|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Tailwind|move4type=Flying|move4cat=Status}}
|{{Pokémon/6
|ndex=184
|pokemon=Azumarill
|gender=male
|level=79
|type1=Water|type2=Fairy
|ability=Huge Power
|held=Assault Vest
|move1=Aqua Jet|move1type=Water|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Play Rough|move2type=Fairy|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Aqua Tail|move3type=Water|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Iron Tail|move4type=Steel|move4cat=Physical}}
{{Party/Div|color={{tcg grass color light}}}}
|{{Pokémon/6
|ndex=462
|pokemon=Magnezone
|level=79
|type1=Electric|type2=Steel
|ability=Sturdy
|held=Air Balloon
|move1=Thunder Wave|move1type=Electric|move1cat=Status
|move2=Discharge|move2type=Electric|move2cat=Special
|move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status
|move4=Flash Cannon|move4type=Steel|move4cat=Special}}
|{{Pokémon/6
|ndex=445
|pokemon=Garchomp
|gender=female
|level=79
|type1=Dragon|type2=Ground
|ability=Rough Skin
|held=Rocky Helmet
|move1=Dragon Claw|move1type=Dragon|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Crunch|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Earthquake|move3type=Ground|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Stone Edge|move4type=Rock|move4cat=Physical}}
|{{Pokémon/6
|ndex=475
|pokemon=Gallade
|gender=male
|level=81
|type1=Psychic|type2=Fighting
|ability=Steadfast
|held=Galladite
|move1=Psycho Cut|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Close Combat|move2type=Fighting|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Leaf Blade|move3type=Grass|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Swords Dance|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}
{{Party/Footer}}

=====Battle Maison Multi Battle=====
Wally will always use these two Pokémon as the player's [[Multi Battle]] Partner.

{{Party/Single
|color={{tcg grass color light}}
|bordercolor={{tcg grass color}}
|headcolor=CED8F6
|sprite=VSWally.png
|size=150px
|prize=N/A
|name=Wally
|game=ORAS
|location=Battle Maison
|pokemon=2}}
|style="margin:auto"|{{Pokémon/6
|ndex=475
|pokemon=Gallade
|gender=male
|level=50
|type1=Psychic|type2=Fighting
|ability=Steadfast
|held=Galladite
|move1=Psycho Cut|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Close Combat|move2type=Fighting|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Leaf Blade|move3type=Grass|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Swords Dance|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}
|style="margin:auto"|{{Pokémon/6
|ndex=462
|pokemon=Magnezone
|level=50
|type1=Electric|type2=Steel
|ability=Sturdy
|held=Air Balloon
|move1=Thunder Wave|move1type=Electric|move1cat=Status
|move2=Thunder|move2type=Electric|move2cat=Special
|move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Status
|move4=Flash Cannon|move4type=Steel|move4cat=Special}}
{{Party/Footer}}

===Quotes===
===={{g|Ruby and Sapphire}}====
'''[[Petalburg Gym]]'''
:''"Um… I… I'd like to get a <sc>{{OBP|Pokémon|species}}</sc>, please…
:''"I'm going to go stay with my relatives in <sc>[[Verdanturf Town]]</sc>. I thought I would be lonely by myself, so I wanted to take a <sc>Pokémon</sc> along. But I've never {{pkmn2|caught}} a <sc>Pokémon</sc> before. I don't know how…"''
:''"Oh, wow! A <sc>Pokémon</sc>!"''
:''"Oh, wow! Thank you!"''
:''"<player>… Would you really come with me?"''

'''{{rt|102|Hoenn}}'''
:''"<player>… <sc>Pokémon</sc> hide in [[tall grass]] like this, don't they? Please watch me and see if I can catch one properly. …Whoa!"''
:''"You throw a <sc>[[Poké Ball|Ball]]</sc> now, right? I… I'll do my best!"''
:''"I did it… It's my… My <sc>Pokémon</sc>! <player>, thank you! Let's go back to the <sc>[[Gym]]</sc>!"''

'''[[Petalburg Gym]]'''
:''"Thank you, yes, it did. Here's your <sc>Pokémon</sc> back. <player>, thank you for coming along with me. You two are why I was able to catch my <sc>Pokémon</sc>. I promise I'll take really good care of it. Oh! My mom's waiting for me, so I have to go! Bye, <player>!

'''[[Mauville City]]'''
* Before battle
:''"Aww, <sc>Uncle</sc>, please? I want to challenge this <sc>Gym</sc> and see how much better I've become. Please? May I, please?"''
:''"I'm not pushing it. If I combine forces with <sc>{{p|Ralts}}</sc>, we can beat anyone!"''
:''"Oh! Hi, <player>! I've gotten a lot stronger since we met. <Player>, I want you and my <sc>Uncle</sc> to understand that. <Player>, please, will you have a {{pkmn|battle}} with me?"''
::'''Yes''': ''"<player>, thank you. Okay… Here I come!"''
::'''No''': ''"Oh… If you won't battle me, <player>, my <sc>Uncle</sc> won't know that I've become really strong."''

* Being defeated
:''"I lost…"''

* After being defeated
:''"<sc>Uncle</sc>… I'll go back to <sc>Verdanturf</sc>…"''
:''"<player>, thank you. Being a <sc>{{pkmn|Trainer}}</sc> is tough, isn't it? It's not enough just to have <sc>Pokémon</sc> and make them battle. That isn't what being a real <sc>Trainer</sc> is about."''

'''Match Call'''{{sup/3|E}}
:''"Oh, hello, <player>! I just wanted to tell you that my <sc>Uncle</sc> bought me a <sc>[[PokéNav]]</sc>! Now I can get in touch with you anytime, <player>!"''

'''{{ho|Victory Road}}'''
* Before battle
:''"Hi! <player>! I bet you're surprised to see me here! I made it all the way here, and it's all thanks to you! <Player>, losing to you that time made me stronger! But I'm not going to lose anymore! I'm going to win! For the <sc>Pokémon</sc> who gave me courage and strength! Okay… Here I come! "''

* Being defeated
:''"Wow! <player>, you are strong, after all!"''

* After being defeated
:''"I couldn't beat you today, <player>, but one of these days, I'll catch up to you!"''

'''[[Wanda]]'s house'''
:''"I lost to you, <player>, but I'm not feeling down anymore. Because I have a new purpose in life. Together with my <sc>Ralts</sc>, I'm going to challenge <sc>Pokémon Gyms</sc> and become a great <sc>Trainer</sc>. Please watch me, <player>. I'm going to be stronger than you. When I do, I'm going to challenge you to another battle."''

===={{g|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}====
'''[[Petalburg Gym]]'''
:''"Um… E-excuse me… I… I'd like to get a Pokémon, please…"''
:''"Y-yes… I'm supposed to go stay with my relatives in Verdanturf Town for a while. But I thought I might be lonely by myself, so I wanted to bring a Pokémon with me. But I've never caught a Pokémon by myself… I'm not sure if I can."''
:''"Oh, wow… Your Pokémon, sir?"''
:''"Th-thank you, Mr. Norman! Um… <player>? You will… You will come with me, right?"''

'''{{rt|102|Hoenn}}'''
:''"<player>… Pokémon hide in tall grass like this, don't they? P-please stay there to watch and see if I can catch one properly. '''Wh-whoa!'''"''
*During catching tutorial
:''"I'm su-supposed to try to weaken the Pokémon before I throw my Poké Ball, right? I read that in a book recently."''
*After tutorial
:''"I did it… It's my… My own Pokémon! Thanks so much, <player>! Let's head back to the Gym!"''

'''Petalburg Gym - after tutorial'''
:''"Yes, it did! Thank you! Let me give you back your Pokémon, sir. And you, <player>… Thank you so much for coming with me. It was all thanks to you two that I was able to catch Ralts. My very own Ralts… I will always, always treasure it! …Oh, I know! It's not much of a thank-you, but… um… <player>? Will you let me see your PokéNav Plus for a second? OK, that and… ummm… there!"''
:''"I read in a book how you can use the PlayNav to take care of your Pokémon and train them. And there's even supposed to be this thing called the PSS, where you can meet up with other Trainers and battle friends and more! I've wanted to have my own Pokémon for so long… and do all those kinda things together… So I've had all these kinds of apps installed on my PokéNav Plus for ages! Embarrassing, huh? I'm going to try my best together with Ralts. You do your best, too, <player>! Oh, but mom's waiting for me. I've got to get going! I hope we'll meet again, <player>! And you, too, Mr. Norman!"''

'''Mauville City'''
:''"Wow! So this is Mauville City!"''
:''"No, thank you! I want to challenge the Gym right away!"''
:''"Let me see... I'm pretty sure the Gym is..."''
:''"Yup! Straight ahead this way! Just through the inner courtyard!"''

'''Front of Mauville Gym'''
:''"Uncle! I'm begging you!"''
:''"I want to challenge this Gym to see how much stronger I've become!"''
:''"Please! You'll let me, won't you?"''
:''"I'm not pushing it!"''
:''"If it's me and my Ralts, we can beat anyone!"''

* Before battle
:''"Ah, <player>! Ralts and I have gotten a lot stronger since we first met. Growing together! I want to prove that to you and my uncle both, <player>. Please...help me once more... And have a battle with me!"''
::'''Yes''': ''"Thank you, <player>. OK. Here we go! We're going to win this, Ralts! We have to!"''
::'''No''':

*Being defeated
:''"Wow... You really are strong, <player>!"''

*After being defeated
:''"Uncle... I'll go back to Verdanturf... <player>, thank you... Being a trainer is tough, isn't it? It's not enough just to battle with your Pokémon. I can't become a true Trainer like that... Not really..."''
:''"..."''
:''"...Yes, Uncle. <player>... I... I'm definitely... I'm going to get stronger. Much, much stronger! I feel like I learned a lot from just one Pokémon battle with you... About my own limits...and Ralts's... So...um... That's why... <player>... If it's all right... Could I... Could I call you...my r-riv-- Ah, never mind! S-sorry! It was nothing! Please forget about it! Guh...good-bye!"''

'''{{ho|Victory Road}}'''
* Before battle
:''"Ah! <player>! I bet you must be surprised to see me in a place like this! That promise that we made back then... Thank you for keeping your end of it. It was really all thanks to you that I could make it this far, <player>. It was only because I lost to you back then that I could become even stronger. I'm sure that you and your Pokémon must have had to overcome a lot, too... To make it all the way here. Right, <player>? Everyone's grown so much... And now we'll get to see just what we all can do. Standing here facing you again gives me chills... ...But I won't give up! I won't lose anymore. My Pokémon have given me the courage and strength to fight. I have to win for their sake! So get ready... Here I come!"''

* Being defeated
:''"... I've lost..."''

* After being defeated
:''"... ... Arghhh!!! ... ... ...Hah. <player>, you... And your Pokémon, too... Thank you for not holding back when you battled against us... For not holding back when you beat us... And... Gallade... Everyone.... Thank you so much... I feel like I've been able to take another step forward thanks to you! Oh! I know! I'll give you this to keep. I hope it will always remind you of your battle with me... and with Gallade and the rest of my team. If you have a male Kirlia as one of your partners, <player>, I hope that you might use that Dawn Stone on it for me. I couldn't beat you this time, <player>. But I'll stay here and continue training. And one day... Look out! I swear I'll catch up to you one day! When I do, promise we'll battle again! That's a promise I intend to live up to!"''

'''[[Battle Resort]]'''
*Enter the Battle Resort for the first time
:''"Ah! <player>! So you came, too! Mr. Norman actually gave me a ticket as well. I just got here a little while ago. So this is the Battle Resort... A tropical paradise that only the lucky few get to visit..."''
:''"I'm getting pumped just standing here! Let's check it out!"''
:''"I'm s-sorry, ma'am, sir...Running into you like that..."''

*After encountering Team Aqua/Magma
:''"Wow... Incredible..."''
:''"Challenge?"''
:''"Oh, is that right? But where can we battle?"''
:''"No, I don't..."''
:''"Thank you very much. We will be sure to do that!"''
:''"The Battle Maison..."''
:''"I'm curious about what kind of place it is, but I think I'll take a look around the island first. I've never been so far from home before, and I've never visited anything like a resort! So I'll be off exploring, <player.. But I'll see you later! I hope we can battle again, here in this resort!"''

==={{DL|PokéNav|Trainer's Eyes}}/{{DL|PokéNav|Match Call}}===
'''{{PK}}{{MN}} Trainer Wally'''{{sup/3|RS}} / '''{{PK}}{{MN}} Lover Wally'''{{sup/3|E}}
:'''Strategy'''
:We let it all hang out.
:'''Trainer's Pokémon'''
:{{p|Ralts|The 1st Pokémon I caught}}.
:'''Self-Introduction'''
:Pokémon and I have grown stronger together.

==Artwork==
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|-
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{tcg grass color}}; background: #CED8F6; width:96px" | [[File:Ruby Sapphire Wally.png|80px]]
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{tcg grass color}}; background: #CED8F6; width:96px"| [[File:Wally ORAS concept art.png|310px]]
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{tcg grass color}}; background: #CED8F6; width:96px" | [[File:Jirachi Encounter.png|250px]]
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{tcg grass color}}; background: #CED8F6; width:96px"| [[File:Wally with Mega Gallade.png|210px]]
|-
| Official artwork from {{color2|000|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby, Sapphire}}, and {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
| Conceptual artwork from {{color2|000|Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}
| Encountering {{pcolor|Jirachi|000}} with {{color2|000|May (game)|May}}
| With his {{color2|000|Mega Evolution|Mega}} {{color2|000|Gallade (Pokémon)|Gallade}} and Mega Pendant
|}

===Sprites===
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|-
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{tcg grass color}}; background: #CED8F6; width:64px" | [[File:Spr RS Wally.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{tcg grass color}}; background: #CED8F6; width:64px" | [[File:Wally OD.png]]
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{tcg grass color}}; background: #CED8F6; width:64px" | [[File:RS Wally Back.png]]
|-
| Sprite from {{color2|000|Generation III}}
| Overworld sprite from {{color2|000|Generation III}}
| Back sprite from {{color2|000|Generation III}}
|}

==In the manga==
[[File:Wally bike.png|thumb|right|200px|Wally in Pokémon Adventures]]
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
{{main|Wally (Adventures)}}

Wally appears as a major supporting character in the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga.

==In the TCG==
===Artwork===
Artwork from the cards:
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|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|5px}} border: 2px solid #{{TCG Trainer color dark}}; background: #{{TCG Trainer color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Wally Training.png|180px]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Raising his Pokémon
|}

===Cards===
This listing is of cards mentioning or featuring Wally or his Pokémon in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]].

{{cardlist/header|Wally|Trainer|char=yes}}
{{cardlist/entry|cardname={{TCG ID|EX Sandstorm|Wally's Training|89}}|type=Trainer|type2=Supporter|enset=EX Sandstorm|enrarity=Uncommon|ennum=89/100|jpset=Miracle of the Desert|jprarity=Uncommon|jpnum=052/053r|enset2=EX Emerald|enrarity2=Uncommon|ennum2=85/106}}
{{cardlist/footer|Trainer}}

==Trivia==
* He has the same Chinese name as {{ga|Dawn}}.
* In {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}, Wally {{pkmn|battle|challenges}} the player near the exit of {{ho|Victory Road}}, whereas in {{v2|Emerald}}, he is met after crossing the first bridge. Despite this, the [[rematch]]es with him occur near the end of Victory Road, regardless of the game.
* In the Generation III games, it is possible for the capture tutorial to end with Ralts [[fainting]]. This can only happen if Zigzagoon is generated with 11 Attack, and the wild Ralts has a [[Nature]] that lowers Defense, an [[Individual values|IV]] of 3 or less in HP, and 5 or less in Defense. With all this, Zigzagoon can do a maximum of 10 damage with its first {{m|Tackle}}, and after {{m|Growl}} is used on it, 7 with its second. This makes for a total of 17 damage, just enough to knock out Ralts. However, the game continues on as if it had been caught. The probability of this occurring is (182/800)*(4/25)*(4/32)*(6/32)*(5/16)*(7/16), or about 1 in 8574.
** In the Generation III games, it is also possible for Wally to catch a {{Shiny}} Ralts in the tutorial. However, it will not stay Shiny in subsequent battles.
* Wally is the first rival that the player cannot name under any circumstances. This does not count Brendan and May, as they are also player characters, and thus the player can name them if they are chosen.
* In Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, after the player defeats [[Maxie]]{{sup/6|OR}} or [[Archie]]{{sup/6|AS}} at [[Mt. Chimney]], Wally is listed as a certified Trainer at all [[Hoenn]] Pokémon [[Gym]]s.
** As the player visits [[Lavaridge Town]] after these events, all Gyms from that point onwards (including the [[Petalburg Gym]]) list Wally's name first while Wally's name appears second at the first three Gyms.
* In Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, when Wally is battled on Victory Road, he gets his own battle theme, unlike in the original games. This later becomes his encounter theme when he is rematched at the [[Battle Resort]].

==Names==
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|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Language
! Name
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Origin
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Japanese
| ミツル ''Mitsuru''
| From 蔓 ''tsuru'', vine. May also be from 鶴 ''tsuru'' (crane), in reference to {{wp|Thousand origami cranes|the act of folding one thousand origami cranes}}.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| English
| Wally
| Possibly from ''Walter'', meaning "ruler of the army"
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| French
| Timmy
| Possibly from ''timide'', timid
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| German
| Heiko
| Diminutive of ''Heinrich'' (German cognate of ''Henry''), meaning "home ruler"
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Italian
| Lino
| From Λῖνος ''{{wp|Linus (mythology)|Linos}}'' (the personification of dirge or lamentation in ancient Greek mythology) or ''lino'' ({{wp|flax}})
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Spanish
| Blasco
| From ''blass'', German for pale
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Korean
| 민진 ''Minjin''
| Possibly from 閔 ''min'' (to grieve; to urge on) and 進 ''jin'' (progression). Coincidentally, his name may also refer to 珉 ''min'' (jade-like stone) and 榛 ''jin'' (hazel). Both are objects with shades of green similar to Wally's color pallet.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and Mainland China}})
| 小光 ''Xiǎo Guāng''
| From 光 ''mitsuru''. Literally "young light".
|}
{{-}}
{{Rival characters}}
{{Capture tutor}}
{{NPC|tcg grass|hoenn=yes}} 
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[[Category:Ruby and Sapphire characters]]
[[Category:Emerald characters]]
[[Category:Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire characters]]

[[de:Heiko]]
[[es:Blasco]]
[[fr:Timmy]]
[[it:Lino (Hoenn)]]
[[ja:ミツル]]
[[zh:小光（丰缘）]]

Talk:Primal Reversion

2014-09-13T12:19:12Z

Derpyderpy: /* Abilities */

Shouldn't we add the myth of Groudon and Kyogre that's on the official website?

''Long, long ago, there appeared in Hoenn two Pokémon of fearsome power. These two became known, in later times, as Groudon and Kyogre. When Groudon howled, the earth swelled and the land grew wide. The sun blazed overhead, and all the world around the creature was enveloped in incandescent heat. When Kyogre roared, water poured forth and the seas spread outward. Dark clouds enshrouded the world, and the deluge fell upon all...It was a primal age, early in the world’s history. The natural world was overflowing with energy. That energy granted Groudon and Kyogre an overwhelming power. Seeking ever more of that energy for themselves, the two clashed again and again, and their battles cast the people and Pokémon of Hoenn into great danger. Brimming with the overwhelming power granted to them by nature’s energy, their transformation was named "Primal Reversion" by later people. And the people called their tormentors Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre...
''
[[User:Derpyderpy|Derpyderpy]] ([[User talk:Derpyderpy|talk]]) 15:18, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

== Mega Evolution ==

In addition to that nice little myth up there, isn't it worth mentioning that Primal Reversion may have a connection to Mega Evolution (as stated by the press release)? I'd add it myself, but you lot have locked the page.--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] ([[User talk:Darknesslover5000|talk]]) 00:58, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

== Abilities ==

Can somebody add [[Sea of Beginnings]] and [[Land of Endings]] as the abilities? [[User:Buffbills7701|Buffbills7701]] ([[User talk:Buffbills7701|talk]]) 22:21, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
:New official names revealed for the abilities - Primordial Sea and Desolate Land. Changes need to be made. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuaL_hMpPaM) [[User:Takkupanda|Takkupanda]] ([[User talk:Takkupanda|talk]]) 16:40, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
::Yeah, they should add the new abilities and moves. --[[User:Derpyderpy|Derpyderpy]] ([[User talk:Derpyderpy|talk]]) 12:19, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Primal Reversion

2014-09-13T12:18:44Z

Derpyderpy: /* Abilities */

User talk:Kogoro/6

2014-07-13T12:40:19Z

Derpyderpy: /* Adding pages */

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== Moveanime template images ==

I wrote on the Moveanime [[Template talk:Moveanime#I have a request|talk page]] about increasing the image count from 4 to 5 several months ago since Kenji-girl had a rule about showing the images per series (currently five) but there wasn't any response about it. I wasn't sure if it was being discussed or it was forgotten about since it is a template used in many pages. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 17:16, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
:I'll have a talk with Kenji-girl about it, see what her ideas on it are. The biggest issue I see with trying to have an image from every series is that it will eventually result in far too many pictures in the template to fit. We'll look into what should be the best option. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 00:47, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
::We should be able to update the template to add up to two more images, at absolute maximum. I'll get working on an update in my userspace when I am finished with the spritebox upgrades. If we ever get beyond the need for six images, we'll have to consider other options. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 07:33, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

== Concerning Glitchdex work ==

As SnorlaxMonster hasn't replied to my messages in a year, and I need an answer before I do anything, I figured I'd come and ask you, the new EiC. I left two messages on [[User_talk:SnorlaxMonster|SnorlaxMonster's talk page]]{{tt|.|Just Ctrl+F my name to find them}} Could you possibly answer my questions? Thanks. --[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 07:17, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
:The new [[Template talk:Availability/Header|availability templates]] should make your first question mostly obsolete. The new templates aren't all bunched together like the old ones, and should allow the freedom to only list the generations (and games) needed for glitches. As for the Missingno. sprites question, I'll have to take some time and look into the issue & get back to you on that one. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 07:33, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

== Username Change ==

First off I am sorry to bother you with this request and I hope it is not to hard. I would like to change my username to Cryptic Midnight. The reason why I want this username change is because I had a 11 year-old mentality when I first created my account. I was dumb and put my first initial and last name in my username. I now realize at the age of 16 that this was very dumb and I hope you can fix it. Sincerely, [[User:Dbeckelheimer6|Dbeckelheimer6]] ([[User talk:Dbeckelheimer6|talk]]) 03:27, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
:Renames are typically restricted to users who are regularly active, and have made more than 500 contributions. If you remain active through the rest of May, I can rename your account for you. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 03:37, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

==Userspace edits request==
Hey Kogoro, may I have permission to edit some errors that are found on userspace pages. I found these errors through the wanted pages list. [[User:Adamws|Adamws]] ([[User talk:Adamws|talk]]) 04:38, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
:Permission isn't required to fix links causing unwanted entries to the wanted pages. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 06:00, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
::Just making sure. [[User:Adamws|Adamws]] ([[User talk:Adamws|talk]]) 22:49, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
:::Yes, I know. I was only changing the red links. Any that I couldn't fix (ie. no clue how to fix), I left those ones alone. [[User:Adamws|Adamws]] ([[User talk:Adamws|talk]]) 23:27, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
::::I don't believe [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Crystal_Talian&curid=153738&diff=2119733&oldid=2116712 changing move types] has anything to do with fixing the typing mistakes that caused unwanted entries on the wanted pages. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 23:29, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
:::::Sorry about that. That won't happen again. [[User:Adamws|Adamws]] ([[User talk:Adamws|talk]]) 18:11, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

== Just to clarify ==

So basically, anything located in the moves pages and moving pages are stuff that definitely require staff approval, as well as anything on a lot of pages? On another topic, I have been doing a good job with adding the appearances of moves in the manga, right? This wouldn't count that time with the Double-Edge incident which I got to admit that it was wrong of me to make those massive edits that led to the block. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 20:59, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
:Anything regarding moving a large segment of information from one page to another (or to a subpage) should get staff approval, to be sure that it's a necessary action and that the best action is taken. What you've been doing with manga additions to the move articles seems fine to me, but I'd suggest checking with Ataro to see if there's any suggestions he may have. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 08:30, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

== Forums? ==

Hi. I have a question. What are forums? Sometimes when I discuss something about a character or a Pokémon on their talk page, people delete what I write and always say "That goes on the forums." Can you explain to me why people are doing that to me? I don't want to cause any trouble. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 05:30, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
:[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forum.php The Bulbagarden Forums], they're full of discussion regarding Pokémon. Including theories, speculation, people's opinions regarding all segments of the franchise, and a whole lot more. Anything that isn't about improving an article, or discussing edits, is very likely to be forums material rather than something to be posted on talk pages. The recent one about Serena was okay for a talk page, though it heavily read like a general complaint against the character rather than a question about trivia. I apologize for the revert there, and I've responded to the question at hand. (The timestamps got confused, however, making the reply seem like it didn't happen... Silly software.) - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 05:38, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
::That's ok. Thank you. :) --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 06:23, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

== TPP article Edit Timer ==

Does the 6 hour rule apply to things like fixing minor table errors, or should that be left to someone else (i.e. EB) during that "do not edit" time period? For example, [[Twitch_Plays_Pokémon#Released|this]] is simply missing a <code><nowiki>|-</nowiki></code> in the table, and has a stray comment tail after it. (All in all that's probably a 0 byte change but doing it would reset the timer). [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 15:48, 5/31/2014 (UTC)
:Small fixes are typically best done moments after the last update, so the timer doesn't get reset too massively, or done with the next major update. If you spot a problem, leave a note on the talk page and a staff member should handle it. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 19:28, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Thanks for putting the Type Effectiveness chart up for Mega Sceptile.

I had just figured 99% of it out before I saw your edit. All I needed to left was to google the alt code for ¼ and I would have had it lol. It took me a while, and I cursed so bad in frustration, that a Grimmer would have put soap in my mouth, but at least I know what to do for the next time.

Anyways, thanks again for putting the chart up and cheers.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 07:19, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

== DP185 picture ==
I don't know what went wrong, but I just changed the picture for DP185 without changing the filename, but now it's not displaying any picture at all in the template anymore. I have never had that happen. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 04:28, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
:Image appears fine for me. Have you tried hard refreshing the article? - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 02:30, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

== Bulbagarden Forums ==

I sent you a PM there concerning a project here, if you haven't received it yet. I'm fine with discussing it further on either site, whatever works for you. Just letting you know. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 21:28, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

== Username rename request ==

Will you please change "SaturnMario" to "General Xerneas"? I like my new username better. [[User:SaturnMario|SaturnMario]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|his talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|his contributions]] 01:53, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
:Renames are something we offer to active editors, and your activity has been on the low side as of late. Because of this, I can't approve your rename at this time. If you bring your activity up, you can ask me again. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 02:30, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

== Couple pages for mainspace ==

(As a preamble, I'd like to say it was nice when the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f195/candidates-merging-moving-mainspacing-splitting-discussion-thread-114138/ Candidates for merging/moving/mainspacing/splitting] thread was in use, so people (I) at least had some idea that the staff was considering stuff at all. At the moment, I don't have the ''first clue'' what staff is or isn't up to...)

The pages:
*[[User:Tiddlywinks/Hotel hoppers]]
*[[User:Tiddlywinks/Juice Shoppe]]
I would appreciate if staff would consider approving these to move into the mainspace. In either case, if some modification is called for, that's fine, but these subjects definitely deserve pages in the mainspace.

Re:hotel hoppers: Stuff like [[Camphrier Town#Pokémon]] really is not adequate: the hotels are not random, and users should not have to be searching about Kalos for the hotels these people appear in (or even searching the ones they've seen them appear in to find the hotel a specific person is in that day). There's really no good way to communicate this information except in a page more or less like the one I made. If that page is in the mainspace, [[Camphrier Town#Pokémon|this]] sort of thing (or [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Eevee_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&curid=2361&diff=2135118&oldid=2135113 this]) can easily contain a link to that page.

Re:Juice Shoppe: The Juice Shoppe juices are basically Kalos's Pokeblocks or Poffins: you combine Berries to get something to feed to your Pokemon. In this case, instead of affecting Contest stats, they affect EVs, levels, and friendship. Though the Juice Shoppe may be confined to [[Lumiose City]], the juice mechanics are quite irrelevant to Lumiose; they deserve their own page. ...Thinking of it in the light of Pokeblocks and Poffins, I suppose the page could be named "Berry juice" and the Lumiose page could talk generally about the shop and link to that page for the mechanics (and that page would take out the stuff about the shop in general). ...The problem is, "Berry Juice" conflicts with the {{DL|Drink|Berry Juice}} drink... Maybe "Berry Juice (Kalos)" or something? Well, under whatever name, the mechanics should be on a separate page rather than unnecessarily cluttering up the Lumiose City article. (A suggestion was previously made to include some pictures, but I don't know how I'm expected to get any, and the page should ''not'' languish indefinitely in the userspace just because there is no convenient means for the average user to get good pictures...) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:59, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
:We intend to work through nominees for moving, merging, mainspacing, etc. gradually through staff meetings. So, we'll try to look into your pages during our next meeting. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 03:40, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

== Kalos secondary type "triangle" ==

I would like staff to weigh in on whether the Kalos secondary types (Dark/Psychic/Fighting) form a "triangle" analogous to the primary types (Water/Fire/Grass). (This stems mostly from [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Starter_Pok%C3%A9mon&curid=1162&diff=2134311&oldid=2134310 here] and [[User talk:Force Fire#Your Starter Pokémon edit|here]].) I don't know where I should ask this so I bring the request directly to you.

The short of it is, Dark/Psychic/Fighting come so close to the exact same relationship as Water/Fire/Grass that I cannot see it as anything but intentional. I.e., that the designers intended it as a parallel to the "triangle" of the primary types. In five whole generations, there has basically been only one single data point for the starters' "type triangle". However, a definition based only on one example is inherently and massively flawed. Considering Water/Fire/Grass and Dark/Psychic/Fighting together, though, it's easy to see a triangular pattern/definition that fits both: "Type X has an offensive and defensive advantage against Type Y".

It is apparent to me that the designers made this choice deliberately. Our definition of a "triangle" (if "we" have one) is effectively artificial in the first place; I see no good reason to not accept a definition that actually fits the pattern that the designers were by all appearances aiming for with the Kalos starters' final forms. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:28, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
:It's not our place to assume what Game Freak's intentions were. If it's something where the fandom will never be in reasonable agreement over, it may be better to simply leave it to people's imaginations & not try to class it as anything. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 03:40, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

==Question==
It's been over a year, can I be removed from the abuse and forcepreview groups? [[User:TheShinyRoggenrola|TheShinyRoggenrola]] ([[User talk:TheShinyRoggenrola|talk]]) 13:15, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
:Restrictions have been removed. Do be responsible with the privileges. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 03:40, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
:Thank you. [[User:TheShinyRoggenrola|TheShinyRoggenrola]] ([[User talk:TheShinyRoggenrola|talk]]) 17:12, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

==Talk Page==
What is a talk page [[User:best pokemon master|best pokemon master]]
:Any page that contains a prefix with the word "talk" in it, such as this very page, is a talk page. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 03:40, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

==Another question==
Can you delete the Pokémon lacking disambiguation notices category? Den Zen says it's no longer needed. [[User:TheShinyRoggenrola|TheShinyRoggenrola]] ([[User talk:TheShinyRoggenrola|talk]]) 22:04, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
:Categories should not be deleted until they have been cleared out. Since the category still contains a significant number of articles, it will not be deleted at this time. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 00:40, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
::So should I (or perhaps [[User:BulbaBot]]) start to remove the articles from the category? [[User:TheShinyRoggenrola|TheShinyRoggenrola]] ([[User talk:TheShinyRoggenrola|talk]]) 12:10, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
:::The category isn't causing any harm by existing, and isn't a priority to remove. The staff will handle the category when we have the time to worry about it. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 18:29, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

==Adding pages==
I have looked all around on how to make pages - specifically my user page - but they say you have to make edits to the main space. I have made several edits to the main space and it still won't let me make pages. Can you help me?
--[[User:Derpyderpy|Derpyderpy]] ([[User talk:Derpyderpy|talk]]) 14:30, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
:In order to create pages, users must make enough edits and their account must exist for enough time. Neither of these requirements will ever be given out by the staff, as to prevent people from abusing the system in order to make a {{bp|userspace policy|user page}}. Just keep on making useful edits to the mainspace, and the privilege will eventually be granted by the system. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 18:29, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
::Got it. Thanks! --[[User:Derpyderpy|Derpyderpy]] ([[User talk:Derpyderpy|talk]]) 12:40, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

==A third question==
Why don't I have permission to upload images to Bulbagarden Archives? [[User:TheShinyRoggenrola|TheShinyRoggenrola]] ([[User talk:TheShinyRoggenrola|talk]]) 16:57, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
:Just like creating pages on Bulbapedia, it's required for an account to become autoconfirmed on the Archives before the ability to upload is activated. You can help out by cleaning up image summaries/categories until such happens, or you can make upload requests to the Archives staff. As an additional note, Archives-related comments/questions/concerns should be posted on the Archives, not Bulbapedia. Thanks. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 02:50, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

== Curious Query ==

[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] sent me your way with this question.

I think I've proven by now, even with my sporadic editing, that I'm not a troublesome editor. Meanwhile, I predict that the site will go on lockdown on or just before November 21. Since I edit sporadically, and I like doing my own edits (since I am a grammar Nazi and somesuch), I'd like to know how I can avoid being slammed by a lockdown. I've also done some updating on Gen. VI moves after the lockdown was lifted from X/Y, but could have done a lot more had I not been stopped for a while (I could have confirmed a lot of learned moves throughout my play). Further, I sometimes edit little bits or edit for grammar on episode articles, which have nothing to do with the games and are still hit by a lockdown. Finally, I've tried requesting edits before, but I never got any response from anyone; basically, staff were too busy with new games to answer anything else.

So my question is this: how can I avoid being barred from editing pages during any brief lockdown in the event I have an insightful edit to make? I can even help with requested edits during any such lockdown if I'm not busy with something else at the time. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 01:42, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
:There is no guaranteed way to get on the list of users that are given the ability to edit while editing is locked. Users that are given the ability are selected by the staff, and are typically editors who are regularly active, have shown to be skilled & dedicated contributors, and those who will help in sections that need regular updates during the edit lock. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 02:50, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
::Darn. I hate being locked out by such a thing. I still can't understand why they need to lock the entire site for an extended period of time; I think it would make more sense to have people monitor the Recent Changes page and quickly reverse anything that's wrong. Wikipedia marks changes that have not been confirmed yet as well, making it easy to know what to look at. The page might have a different name, however. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 23:09, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
:::It's a necessary evil in order to get work done in timely and efficient manner. In the past, we weren't able to lock editing and the mass of false information, rumors, and blatant vandalism was so great that the staff had to near-exclusively focus on reverting these issues. Because of this, information on the new games took well over twice as long to get up as it takes now with the ability to temporarily lock editing. The fans want information as soon as possible, and our aim is to have accurate information up to best meet with these demands. I am sorry you're disappointed regarding the edit locks, but they're for the best. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 01:25, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
::::Yeah, that's why I'm trying to see if I can get past that before it hits. When it does hit, I never hear from anyone, even if I'm trying to make an edit that never gets made. That turns out as a bad experience. Ya know what I mean? =)
::::That said, there is less information to do this time, so I can't see why the entire site would need locking this time. There might be a few changes to movesets (hey, FR/LG did it, I think HG/SS did it), but those should be quick to verify if someone posts one. I could even test them if I have the Pokémon. LOL Unless that's where Move Tutors get added, and then updating pages with Secret Power (for instance) would be a mess; that I can understand. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 04:02, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

== New [[Template:Sign]] ==

There are two problems with the Sign template.

1) It's implemented rather horribly, asking you to use the template repeatedly for rather trivial reasons. If we would just let the user format the lines for the sign manually, the whole thing can easily be handled in one call. ...Fixing the current template to work like this either means temporarily breaking all current uses of it or creating a new template.

2) The BW sign that someone created is hugely complicated by its constant use of {{template|!}}. ...To solve this, it'd be nice to just create a separate template for this sign where it can build a table properly/legibly.

So: can I split the Sign template into templates for each Gen like Sign/1, Sign/2 (redirect to 1 for now maybe), and so on? That way I can write the new templates correctly without breaking everything, and BW can build its table cleanly (and they'll just generally be less crowded). Then I can go and update all the current usages of Sign to these new templates. (...All the mainspace uses at least shouldn't be ''too'' bad.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:09, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

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== Moveanime template images ==

I wrote on the Moveanime [[Template talk:Moveanime#I have a request|talk page]] about increasing the image count from 4 to 5 several months ago since Kenji-girl had a rule about showing the images per series (currently five) but there wasn't any response about it. I wasn't sure if it was being discussed or it was forgotten about since it is a template used in many pages. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 17:16, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
:I'll have a talk with Kenji-girl about it, see what her ideas on it are. The biggest issue I see with trying to have an image from every series is that it will eventually result in far too many pictures in the template to fit. We'll look into what should be the best option. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 00:47, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
::We should be able to update the template to add up to two more images, at absolute maximum. I'll get working on an update in my userspace when I am finished with the spritebox upgrades. If we ever get beyond the need for six images, we'll have to consider other options. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 07:33, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

== Concerning Glitchdex work ==

As SnorlaxMonster hasn't replied to my messages in a year, and I need an answer before I do anything, I figured I'd come and ask you, the new EiC. I left two messages on [[User_talk:SnorlaxMonster|SnorlaxMonster's talk page]]{{tt|.|Just Ctrl+F my name to find them}} Could you possibly answer my questions? Thanks. --[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 07:17, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
:The new [[Template talk:Availability/Header|availability templates]] should make your first question mostly obsolete. The new templates aren't all bunched together like the old ones, and should allow the freedom to only list the generations (and games) needed for glitches. As for the Missingno. sprites question, I'll have to take some time and look into the issue & get back to you on that one. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 07:33, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

== Username Change ==

First off I am sorry to bother you with this request and I hope it is not to hard. I would like to change my username to Cryptic Midnight. The reason why I want this username change is because I had a 11 year-old mentality when I first created my account. I was dumb and put my first initial and last name in my username. I now realize at the age of 16 that this was very dumb and I hope you can fix it. Sincerely, [[User:Dbeckelheimer6|Dbeckelheimer6]] ([[User talk:Dbeckelheimer6|talk]]) 03:27, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
:Renames are typically restricted to users who are regularly active, and have made more than 500 contributions. If you remain active through the rest of May, I can rename your account for you. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 03:37, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

==Userspace edits request==
Hey Kogoro, may I have permission to edit some errors that are found on userspace pages. I found these errors through the wanted pages list. [[User:Adamws|Adamws]] ([[User talk:Adamws|talk]]) 04:38, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
:Permission isn't required to fix links causing unwanted entries to the wanted pages. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 06:00, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
::Just making sure. [[User:Adamws|Adamws]] ([[User talk:Adamws|talk]]) 22:49, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
:::Yes, I know. I was only changing the red links. Any that I couldn't fix (ie. no clue how to fix), I left those ones alone. [[User:Adamws|Adamws]] ([[User talk:Adamws|talk]]) 23:27, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
::::I don't believe [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Crystal_Talian&curid=153738&diff=2119733&oldid=2116712 changing move types] has anything to do with fixing the typing mistakes that caused unwanted entries on the wanted pages. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 23:29, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
:::::Sorry about that. That won't happen again. [[User:Adamws|Adamws]] ([[User talk:Adamws|talk]]) 18:11, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

== Just to clarify ==

So basically, anything located in the moves pages and moving pages are stuff that definitely require staff approval, as well as anything on a lot of pages? On another topic, I have been doing a good job with adding the appearances of moves in the manga, right? This wouldn't count that time with the Double-Edge incident which I got to admit that it was wrong of me to make those massive edits that led to the block. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 20:59, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
:Anything regarding moving a large segment of information from one page to another (or to a subpage) should get staff approval, to be sure that it's a necessary action and that the best action is taken. What you've been doing with manga additions to the move articles seems fine to me, but I'd suggest checking with Ataro to see if there's any suggestions he may have. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 08:30, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

== Forums? ==

Hi. I have a question. What are forums? Sometimes when I discuss something about a character or a Pokémon on their talk page, people delete what I write and always say "That goes on the forums." Can you explain to me why people are doing that to me? I don't want to cause any trouble. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 05:30, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
:[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forum.php The Bulbagarden Forums], they're full of discussion regarding Pokémon. Including theories, speculation, people's opinions regarding all segments of the franchise, and a whole lot more. Anything that isn't about improving an article, or discussing edits, is very likely to be forums material rather than something to be posted on talk pages. The recent one about Serena was okay for a talk page, though it heavily read like a general complaint against the character rather than a question about trivia. I apologize for the revert there, and I've responded to the question at hand. (The timestamps got confused, however, making the reply seem like it didn't happen... Silly software.) - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 05:38, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
::That's ok. Thank you. :) --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 06:23, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

== TPP article Edit Timer ==

Does the 6 hour rule apply to things like fixing minor table errors, or should that be left to someone else (i.e. EB) during that "do not edit" time period? For example, [[Twitch_Plays_Pokémon#Released|this]] is simply missing a <code><nowiki>|-</nowiki></code> in the table, and has a stray comment tail after it. (All in all that's probably a 0 byte change but doing it would reset the timer). [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 15:48, 5/31/2014 (UTC)
:Small fixes are typically best done moments after the last update, so the timer doesn't get reset too massively, or done with the next major update. If you spot a problem, leave a note on the talk page and a staff member should handle it. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 19:28, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Thanks for putting the Type Effectiveness chart up for Mega Sceptile.

I had just figured 99% of it out before I saw your edit. All I needed to left was to google the alt code for ¼ and I would have had it lol. It took me a while, and I cursed so bad in frustration, that a Grimmer would have put soap in my mouth, but at least I know what to do for the next time.

Anyways, thanks again for putting the chart up and cheers.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 07:19, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

== DP185 picture ==
I don't know what went wrong, but I just changed the picture for DP185 without changing the filename, but now it's not displaying any picture at all in the template anymore. I have never had that happen. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 04:28, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
:Image appears fine for me. Have you tried hard refreshing the article? - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 02:30, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

== Bulbagarden Forums ==

I sent you a PM there concerning a project here, if you haven't received it yet. I'm fine with discussing it further on either site, whatever works for you. Just letting you know. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 21:28, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

== Username rename request ==

Will you please change "SaturnMario" to "General Xerneas"? I like my new username better. [[User:SaturnMario|SaturnMario]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|his talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|his contributions]] 01:53, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
:Renames are something we offer to active editors, and your activity has been on the low side as of late. Because of this, I can't approve your rename at this time. If you bring your activity up, you can ask me again. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 02:30, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

== Couple pages for mainspace ==

(As a preamble, I'd like to say it was nice when the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f195/candidates-merging-moving-mainspacing-splitting-discussion-thread-114138/ Candidates for merging/moving/mainspacing/splitting] thread was in use, so people (I) at least had some idea that the staff was considering stuff at all. At the moment, I don't have the ''first clue'' what staff is or isn't up to...)

The pages:
*[[User:Tiddlywinks/Hotel hoppers]]
*[[User:Tiddlywinks/Juice Shoppe]]
I would appreciate if staff would consider approving these to move into the mainspace. In either case, if some modification is called for, that's fine, but these subjects definitely deserve pages in the mainspace.

Re:hotel hoppers: Stuff like [[Camphrier Town#Pokémon]] really is not adequate: the hotels are not random, and users should not have to be searching about Kalos for the hotels these people appear in (or even searching the ones they've seen them appear in to find the hotel a specific person is in that day). There's really no good way to communicate this information except in a page more or less like the one I made. If that page is in the mainspace, [[Camphrier Town#Pokémon|this]] sort of thing (or [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Eevee_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&curid=2361&diff=2135118&oldid=2135113 this]) can easily contain a link to that page.

Re:Juice Shoppe: The Juice Shoppe juices are basically Kalos's Pokeblocks or Poffins: you combine Berries to get something to feed to your Pokemon. In this case, instead of affecting Contest stats, they affect EVs, levels, and friendship. Though the Juice Shoppe may be confined to [[Lumiose City]], the juice mechanics are quite irrelevant to Lumiose; they deserve their own page. ...Thinking of it in the light of Pokeblocks and Poffins, I suppose the page could be named "Berry juice" and the Lumiose page could talk generally about the shop and link to that page for the mechanics (and that page would take out the stuff about the shop in general). ...The problem is, "Berry Juice" conflicts with the {{DL|Drink|Berry Juice}} drink... Maybe "Berry Juice (Kalos)" or something? Well, under whatever name, the mechanics should be on a separate page rather than unnecessarily cluttering up the Lumiose City article. (A suggestion was previously made to include some pictures, but I don't know how I'm expected to get any, and the page should ''not'' languish indefinitely in the userspace just because there is no convenient means for the average user to get good pictures...) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:59, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
:We intend to work through nominees for moving, merging, mainspacing, etc. gradually through staff meetings. So, we'll try to look into your pages during our next meeting. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 03:40, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

== Kalos secondary type "triangle" ==

I would like staff to weigh in on whether the Kalos secondary types (Dark/Psychic/Fighting) form a "triangle" analogous to the primary types (Water/Fire/Grass). (This stems mostly from [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Starter_Pok%C3%A9mon&curid=1162&diff=2134311&oldid=2134310 here] and [[User talk:Force Fire#Your Starter Pokémon edit|here]].) I don't know where I should ask this so I bring the request directly to you.

The short of it is, Dark/Psychic/Fighting come so close to the exact same relationship as Water/Fire/Grass that I cannot see it as anything but intentional. I.e., that the designers intended it as a parallel to the "triangle" of the primary types. In five whole generations, there has basically been only one single data point for the starters' "type triangle". However, a definition based only on one example is inherently and massively flawed. Considering Water/Fire/Grass and Dark/Psychic/Fighting together, though, it's easy to see a triangular pattern/definition that fits both: "Type X has an offensive and defensive advantage against Type Y".

It is apparent to me that the designers made this choice deliberately. Our definition of a "triangle" (if "we" have one) is effectively artificial in the first place; I see no good reason to not accept a definition that actually fits the pattern that the designers were by all appearances aiming for with the Kalos starters' final forms. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:28, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
:It's not our place to assume what Game Freak's intentions were. If it's something where the fandom will never be in reasonable agreement over, it may be better to simply leave it to people's imaginations & not try to class it as anything. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 03:40, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

==Question==
It's been over a year, can I be removed from the abuse and forcepreview groups? [[User:TheShinyRoggenrola|TheShinyRoggenrola]] ([[User talk:TheShinyRoggenrola|talk]]) 13:15, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
:Restrictions have been removed. Do be responsible with the privileges. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 03:40, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
:Thank you. [[User:TheShinyRoggenrola|TheShinyRoggenrola]] ([[User talk:TheShinyRoggenrola|talk]]) 17:12, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

==Talk Page==
What is a talk page [[User:best pokemon master|best pokemon master]]
:Any page that contains a prefix with the word "talk" in it, such as this very page, is a talk page. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 03:40, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

==Another question==
Can you delete the Pokémon lacking disambiguation notices category? Den Zen says it's no longer needed. [[User:TheShinyRoggenrola|TheShinyRoggenrola]] ([[User talk:TheShinyRoggenrola|talk]]) 22:04, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
:Categories should not be deleted until they have been cleared out. Since the category still contains a significant number of articles, it will not be deleted at this time. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 00:40, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
:So should I (or perhaps [[User:BulbaBot]]) start to remove the articles from the category? [[User:TheShinyRoggenrola|TheShinyRoggenrola]] ([[User talk:TheShinyRoggenrola|talk]]) 12:10, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

== Adding pages ==

I have looked all around on how to make pages - specifically my user page - but they say you have to make edits to the main space. I have made several edits to the main space and it still won't let me make pages. Can you help me?
--[[User:Derpyderpy|Derpyderpy]] ([[User talk:Derpyderpy|talk]]) 14:30, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 13

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==Previous discussions==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10|Archive 10]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 11|Archive 11]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 12|Archive 12]]

== Problems with main page ==

I've been having a few issues with the main page. I can't click on the 'discussion', 'view source', 'history' or 'watch' buttons. Those buttons work on most other pages, so as far as I know, it's just this page. Also, these errors only occurred after the update. [[User:Cacnea7642|Cacnea]][[User Talk:Cacnea7642|7642]] 16:00, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:Everything seems to be working fine on my end. Does anyone else seem to be having this problem? [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 16:30, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
::Are you using Google Chrome? Because I am having the same issue with Chrome but it seems to be working fine in other browsers, which is very weird since I never had such problem with Chrome in the past. ♫♪ [[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']] ♪♫ 17:39, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:::Firefox won't let me click on any of the main page tabs other than article. --[[User:Charlie|Charlie]] ([[User talk:Charlie|talk]]) 17:50, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
::::After a bit of investigation, I think I've found and fixed the problem. Because of where the fixes were (i.e. not on the page itself but other pages that this depends on) it may take some time for the fix to actually take effect on your end. If it's still not working after giving it a day clearing your cache, let me know. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 23:44, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::It's all working again now [[User:Cacnea7642|Cacnea]][[User Talk:Cacnea7642|7642]] 15:55, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::At the end of the page, where the boxes appear (Enciclopediae Pokémonis and Nintendo Independent wikis), the reference to Bulbapedia is a redirect. As far as I know, it's a little stupid to have a link leading us to the same page! [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''The''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''Original''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''One''']] 10:40, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I don't see what you mean TheOriginalOne. That link to Bulbapedia is linking to the home page of our site, if it didn't link to the mainpage (where we already are) then what would it link to? '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 16:10, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
::::::::It doesn't make sense to have a page linking to itself, so I think we should put the word "Bulbapedia" in bold, without linking to anything; the bold sign would indicate the users that they're already on the page. [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''The''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''Original''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''One''']] 14:54, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

== Quotes ==

Can we make a ``Notable Quotes`section? [[User:TeamPlasmaN1212|TeamPlasmaN1212]] ([[User talk:TeamPlasmaN1212|talk]]) 21:11, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
On second thught, blast that. [[User:TeamPlasmaN1212|TeamPlasmaN1212]] ([[User talk:TeamPlasmaN1212|talk]]) 18:30, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I meant thought. [[User:TeamPlasmaN1212|TeamPlasmaN1212]] ([[User talk:TeamPlasmaN1212|talk]]) 18:31, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
:You do know you could have just edited what you said rather than making more clutter? [[User:BisumitoIsSnazzy|BisumitoIsSnazzy]] ([[User talk:BisumitoIsSnazzy|talk]]) 18:52, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

== Just curious; ==

On the main page, it states that Bulbapedia is supported by Bulbanews, Bulbagarden Archives, and Bulbagarden Forums. Shouldn't that mean it's supported by the National Bulbagraphic, too? Excuse me if this is an obvious question, I had just joined today. [[User:BisumitoIsSnazzy|BisumitoIsSnazzy]] ([[User talk:BisumitoIsSnazzy|talk]]) 18:27, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

I think it's a good idea too but I just submitted yesterday so don't know how much my opinion counts.....[[User:Insert Pokè-name|Insert Pokè-name]] ([[User talk:Insert Pokè-name|talk]]) 06:13, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
:I don't think "supported by" is the correct term. They are all parts of [[Bulbagarden]]. The National Bulbagraphic is a part of Bulbanews. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:42, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
::National Bulbagraphic is currently not in production. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:20, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
:::Is National Bulbagraphic specifically discontinued? If so, should its link in the Bulbagarden links section to the left of the page simply be merged into Bulbanews or the Bulbanews archive?[[User:Squirrelfeet|Squirrelfeet]] ([[User talk:Squirrelfeet|talk]]) 22:45, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

==I have a question...==
Okay, so lately, with the release of Black and White 2, Bulbapedia has put news from it on the front page. Just out of curiosity, are they going to go back to putting articles daily on the front page? [[User:JacobTheDoduo|JacobtheDoduo]] ([[User talk:JacobTheDoduo|talk]]) 20:37, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
:It's been pretty much decided that we're going to stick with just leaving the news feed up. It was very time consuming to replace the featured articles every day and we felt that this was easier. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 20:45, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
:: Thank you. [[User:JacobTheDoduo|JacobtheDoduo]] ([[User talk:JacobTheDoduo|talk]]) 20:47, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
:::It was fun reading daily featured article in the past. I sure hope Bulbapedia goes back to posting daily articles. It's been confusing to see the same twitter feed everyday "[[User:SimonOrJ|SimonOrJ]]"([[User:SimonOrJ|U]]/[[User talk:SimonOrJ|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/SimonOrJ|C]]) 21:27, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

== When is black and white 2 going to be in the U.S. ==

Hey, do you know when is black and white 2 going to be in the U.S. {{unsigned|Chezalpern}}
:[[Pokémon Black and White Versions 2|This page]] is where you should look at first before asking questions about it. To answer your question, it's October 7th. --[[User:Funktastic~!|It's Funktastic~!]] ([[User talk:Funktastic~!|talk]]) 22:11, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
::Are we having a countdown for it on the front page, like for Black and White? - ''signed comment from [[User:GoldenCelebi|GoldenCelebi]] ([[User talk:GoldenCelebi|pedia talk]] • [[Bulbanews:User talk:GoldenCelebi|news talk]] • [[a:User talk:GoldenCelebi|archives talk]])'' ''18:16, 28 September 2012 (UTC)''
:::A MediaWiki update broke our counter and we haven't been able to find a suitable replacement yet. So no, we won't be. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:39, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

== National Bulbagraphic ==

Is National Bulbagraphic specifically discontinued? If so, should its link in the Bulbagarden links section to the left of the page simply be merged into Bulbanews or the Bulbanews archive? [[User:Squirrelfeet|Squirrelfeet]] ([[User talk:Squirrelfeet|talk]]) 16:05, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

In an above statement under the section "Just curious" a similar question was asked, and the darklordtrom stated that National Bulbagraphic is officially discontinued. Please make sure to read above sections before posting questions :). Thanks. ([[User:Charizard101|Charizard101]] ([[User talk:Charizard101|talk]]) 20:03, 30 September 2012 (UTC))

::He said that it was not in production. I was just checking what that meant or if it would come back. Considering that it is not in production, should it not be moved to the archives?[[User:Squirrelfeet|Squirrelfeet]] ([[User talk:Squirrelfeet|talk]]) 12:50, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
:::I'm thinking that National Bulbagraphic is probably not going to come back, but as for if it should be moved to the archives, that is a question that someone like MAGNEDETH or darklordtrom could easily answer. ([[User:Charizard101|Charizard101]] ([[User talk:Charizard101|talk]]) 14:04, 14 October 2012 (UTC))

== Unova Pokedex ==

I was browsing Amazon the other day looking at prices of stuff for the TCG when I came across the new Unova Pokedex from Jakks. I was wondering if I could make an article for the item since we also have an article for the Diamond and Pearl one. I believe I have enough information to create an article, though I can't upload pictures, so someone else would have to do that. ([[User:Charizard101|Charizard101]] ([[User talk:Charizard101|talk]]) 20:21, 30 September 2012 (UTC))
:I think it deserves a page. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:09, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

== Images aren't loading ==

Well, most of the. I first noticed this on Dewott's page.--[[User:Goomba98|Goomba98]] ([[User talk:Goomba98|talk]]) 15:32, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:No images that are normal (as in, they're hosted on Archives; the logo near navigation is fine) are loading for me. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 15:34, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::Same here, I thought I messed up somewhere while editing. I hope the staff are aware of the issue and are working on it. [[User:TheyCallMeMellowCello|TheyCallMeMellowCello]] ([[User talk:TheyCallMeMellowCello|talk]]) 18:20, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:::The images on that page appear to be loading fine for me. Maybe check that your addons are not blocking the images? [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 18:31, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::::I disabled all my Add-ons, and pictures are still not showing up. This doesn't just happen on Dewott's page, but other pages as well. Edit: I checked an image itself (the ones that are not showing up) and I get a 404 error. Maybe this is because of the server move? [[User:TheyCallMeMellowCello|TheyCallMeMellowCello ♫♩♪]] ([[User talk:TheyCallMeMellowCello|talk]]) 18:40, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::I think it may be your cache drawing the images from before the move. The images might be at different locations now. Clear your cache. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 18:56, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::That did nothing. Images still aren't loading for me. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 19:08, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::<s>If possible, you should be able to see the images by switching to another computer. I am not sure if going to the Archives page for each image would help the issue, but it would if the cache is cleared before hand.</s> [[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 19:16, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::::I'm having these issues as well. At first I had them on my mobile phone, at which the pictures were boxes with a ? on them and showed the link info, but then I got on my laptop and the pictures are still now showing. What's going on here? --[[User:Flufflemonster|Flufflemonster]] ([[User talk:Flufflemonster|talk]]) 19:48, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::I've got this too [[User:Volcronaperson|_Volcronaperson_]] 19:50, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::Sorry for doubting you, but it seems that there is an issue somewhere. It seems that the .png files are not displaying correctly on some {{tt|browsers| Internet Explorer 8 or 9 on Windows Vista; Google Chrome 21, Safari 5.1.7, Firefox 11.0, and Firefox 15.0.1 on a Mac OS X 10.6.8 are not displaying the files as they should be.}}. I would suggest using a browser that can display .png files that are animated for the time being. [[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 19:55, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::It's not a browser thing. They're no longer working for me, now that I'm using a different internet connection but the same browser. We'll look into it, but it's possible that it's due to certain internet connections not directing traffic properly after the move. It may not be a quick fix. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:59, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::::So much for my guess. At least the images are still viewable on the Archives. [[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 20:09, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Related to that, and as an added note, given that some images seem to be working some of the time: If an image isn't loading and you want to see it, click on it, and then click on the "description page" link to it on the archives. Please, ''please, '''please''''', don't sit there refreshing the page or continually trying to reload the image. Doing that is ''not'' going to make it load. What it will do is increase the load on our servers, making it so that ''less'' loads. It makes any problem worse. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:48, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::::: That just gives 404 not found [[User:Volcronaperson|_Volcronaperson_]] 23:27, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::::::: In extreme cases, it gives out a 503 error. (Loss of server.) Back on topic, what was the problem with some of the images? --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:53, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::What I meant, was not navigate to the image itself, but navigate to the image on the archives. And the problem was that the main server had crashed, blocking all traffic. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:04, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::How come the archives access their images from the archives, while Bulbapedia accesses images from cdn2.bulbagarden? [[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 10:57, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::Because wikis are set up to only access images that are loaded on them. The Content Delivery Network (CDN) takes the images on the archives and distributes them to Bulbapedia and Bulbanews. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 18:32, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

== Automagically redirected to pornographic site ==

So I was surfing on my iPhone 3G with iOS 4.2.1 {{tt|yesterday|2012-10-13}} in between 12:50 AM UTC and 1:20 AM UTC (don't remember exactly what was the time) when I fired up Mobile Safari and directed the browser to Bulbapedia's main page. Now, I don't remember tapping anything on the screen but there's a chance I did without noticing it. Either way, I'm not convinced it was accidental tapping. What happened is that I suddenly got redirected multiple times through the ad network until I reached [http://www.ipinkvisualpass.com/pt/sx/iphone/home/updates/?revid=66054&campaign=20996&viewSpeed= this], which is a pornographic site. Now, I don't have anything against adult-themed content as I'm 19 but why in hell was I sent there in the first place? I demand an explanation. [[User:SatoMew2|Sato]][[User talk:SatoMew2|Mew]] 23:05, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
:Actually, it was in between 11:50 PM UTC of 2012-10-12 and 12:20 AM UTC of 2012-10-13. My bad. I forgot I'm currently on summer time. [[User:SatoMew2|Sato]][[User talk:SatoMew2|Mew]] 23:12, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
::Please report all disturbing or disruptive ads to [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f195/bad-ad-reporting-thread-29680/ this thread] [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 23:18, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
:::OK, I shall do it later as I need to create an account at BMGf first and it's a bit late now around here. [[User:SatoMew2|Sato]][[User talk:SatoMew2|Mew]] 23:33, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

== Pedia down? ==

Was it? It seems it was earlier… --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 03:59, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
: I think Bulbapedia was down earlier, along with Video Game Wiki. I tried several times, even exiting out of my browser and going back in, but that didn't work. I think something was up with the servers the wikis run on. ([[User:Charizard101|Charizard101]] ([[User talk:Charizard101|talk]]) 02:55, 26 October 2012 (UTC))
::Video Game Wiki...? If that's a Wikia site, their downtime is unrelated to Bulbapedia's downtime. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:44, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Then can anyone tell me what Bulbapedia's being down was all about? I was slightly confused about that. ([[User:Charizard101|Charizard101]] ([[User talk:Charizard101|talk]]) 01:02, 27 October 2012 (UTC))
::::On the 22nd and the 23rd UTC, Bulbapedia was down for quite a few errors. Due to B2W2 server load, the servers have been unstable. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 01:06, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::Okay, thanks for the info. After the big server move they did, I can see why they might have some problems. ([[User:Charizard101|Charizard101]] ([[User talk:Charizard101|talk]]) 01:52, 27 October 2012 (UTC))
::::::Is the broken layout and random downloading of pages related to this?[[User:Goomba98|Goomba98]] ([[User talk:Goomba98|talk]]) 00:31, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
:::::::No, not at all. This is a different issue (I think). If anything, it is the software that is broken. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 00:36, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

== Downloading pages ==

I am the only one with this problem? Some random times, instead of load a new page my computer donwloads it. Is it my problem or is a bug on the website? --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] [[User talk:Gabo 2oo|(talk)]]
:It's some super annoying bug right now. I'm just going to sleep and hope it's fixed by tomorrow. (I'm on the US east coast, so it is bedtime now) {{m|Yawn}}... --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 03:32, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

== Userspace edit limit - pages to be put into mainspace ==

I am going to be writing a major section for an article here, but it will be spread across several days, and want to merge it all in to the article at one time. So I am asking if the userspace edit limit applies to sandbox-like pages which will have information that will be put into the main namespace. So...does it? [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 00:23, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
:Just keep it under 3, preview, don't do them within minutes of each other, and don't forget about the mainspace. The staff are more lenient on those kind of pages. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 00:27, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
::We're more lenient with stuff for the mainspace, but they're not unrestricted. I have to ask why the section can't be written into the actual article. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:06, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
:::I can keep it under 3 edits a day - it probably would be only 1 or 2. The section is large and technical, and I do not want to post an incomplete work into the mainspace - it could cause users to flood the talk page, edit it themselves (which would be horrible for the WIP), some might revert (with the way I work, initial versions might not end up looking like professional content, especially with notes all over the place in comments), and, worst comes to worst, I might keep an edit lock open for a period of 3 hours at a time - hardly an appropriate amount of time for mainspace. I would be making judicious use of the Preview functionality, as I am not entirely familiar with WikiCode. I will be merging the work into the appropriate mainspace page when it is completed.
:::I also wonder how capable Bulbapedia is of linking external images. The WIP section will probably have WIP images (hosted on my domain), and I would prefer to link those externally rather than uploading to the Archives for now, mainly to reduce server load.
:::And the main reason I ask is because the top bar is currently limiting userspace edits to 1/day, not the usual 3/day we had for quite a while. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 01:40, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
{| style="float:right"
| http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/archive/e/e0/20100401001626%21BulbaBot.png
|}
::::As you can see, I have externally linked an out-of-date image from the Archives. It's useful. And that's how you do that. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 02:02, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

== One request and two questions ==

* I wanted to inform you that Pokémon Central Wiki has moved its Main page from Pagina principale to [[it:Home]], could you please change the link on Bulbapedia's Main page?
* I also noticed that the Portuguese wiki is not working at all, it tells me that the page does not exist (the same error that appears when you try to surf the Internet with no connection), is it a Country problem (I'm Italian) or is it something else?
* When it shows me the 503 error what should I do, can I try to refresh the page immediately or should I wait 5 minutes before trying again?--[[User:CiaobyDany|CiaobyDany]] ([[User talk:CiaobyDany|talk]]) 21:03, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
:According to my browser, the Portugese wiki is down/out of service/dead. If you recieve a 503 error, the staff recommend to wait a few minutes before you refresh. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 21:42, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

== What? ==

Bulbapedia's recently being marked by Opera or Firefox as dangerous website. What the- [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 12:32, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
:See [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f195/bulbawiki-site-issues-thread-39109/index12.html#post4528618 this thread from this post onwards]. We know, and have contacted Google about fixing it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:48, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

== Bulbanews ==

What's wrong with Bulbanews? Nothing's appearing on the Main Page and the Front Page of Bulbanews's "Current Events" section is blank. Is that supposed to be happening? By the way, I'm using Safari. [[User:KyuremsIceBlade|KyuremsIceBlade]] ([[User Talk:KyuremsIceBlade|Talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/KyuremsIceBlade|Contribs]]) 21:17, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
:Some old article pictures were being changed recently and has somehow affected the story picker, which displays the recent stories/current events on the main pages. It should be fixing itself soon though. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 21:25, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
:: Some new news. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHiHpa77-xc [[User:Mesuxelf|'''Mes''']][[User talk:Mesuxelf|'''ux''''''elf''']] 01:05, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

== Pokéteca (Spanish wiki) Main Page link is a redirect ==

The link posted on the Main Page to [[es:Portada]] is actually a redirect. The correct link should be [[es:Página principal]]. Could someone please update this? Thanks! [[User:ChiefbozX|ChiefbozX]] ([[User talk:ChiefbozX|talk]]) 00:35, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
:I have fixed it. Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 00:55, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
::The link on the sidebar also needs a correction; it currently goes to [[es:Página Principal]] (as we all know, links are case-sensitive). Thanks for correcting the one in the [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis]] box. [[User:ChiefbozX|ChiefbozX]] ([[User talk:ChiefbozX|talk]]) 21:44, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

== Flags symbolizing languages ==

I'll put this here as there seems to be no better option on-wiki: [http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/flags.html Why you should not use a flag as a symbol of language], [http://flagsarenotlanguages.com/blog/why-flags-do-not-represent-language/ Why flags do not represent languages]. Specifically, [[Template:Epilang]] (there may be other cases, too) always makes me uncomfortable. I know you guys really like graphics and colors, but just... don't do it this time. Also, the links to the "respective" (that's some serious quotation marks I put there) 'Pokémon in [country]' pages... [[User:Mewtwo745|Mewtwo745]] ([[User talk:Mewtwo745|talk]]) 09:32, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

== Redirect to adult sites? ==

I'm writing this to report a serious problem I've had since a few months: while I'm on bulbagarden sites, I get redirected to an adult site and I can't return on the previous page. At first I thought it was a bad ad I opened inadvertently, but now I know for sure it is not that case. It first happened around december, and it got worse within the time... By now it almost happens once each fifty pages I open more or less. I usually get this problem on Bulbapedia, but it also happened once on the archives. It still haven't got this problem on the other bulbagarden sites but I think it's because I usually don't go on them. It is not a browser problem, since it happened with opera, chrome mobile and another mobile browser. I don't know if the fact I'm in Italy matters. I wrote down the site I get redirected to when I'm on the tablet. I don't have the desktop site because now I usually use my tablet, and I didn't think of writing down the URL. I first thought to add the link hidden in this discussion, but anybody could have still opened it. If you need it I can send it by email. Thanks for your attention--[[User:CiaobyDany|CiaobyDany]] ([[User talk:CiaobyDany|talk]]) 08:21, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
:There are two possibilities here: 1) there's some rouge ad that's automatically redirecting you (without you even clicking it), which we would want to remove ASAP if we can or 2) you have a virus. If it is the former, then we want to know about it so it can be dealt with, so please post as many details as possible about it [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f195/bad-ad-reporting-thread-29680/ in the Bad Ad Reporting Thread]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:59, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
::As you suggested I reported it on the forum. I did read the notice at the beginning of the page, but I didn't think it was an ad problem. Feel free to delete this discussion and thanks again.--[[User:CiaobyDany|CiaobyDany]] ([[User talk:CiaobyDany|talk]]) 21:30, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

== Question ==

Why hasn't the message from the editor been updated since ''December 20?'' Also, can someone help me fix my signature? [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] ([[User talk:Spyspotter|talk]]) 13:05, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
:The message from the editor is updated when we have something significant to post about. When that time comes, a new message from the editor will be posted. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 22:18, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

==Non-existing pages==

Whenever I click on a link to a non-existing page, a random set of characters (such as IA"});) appears. Why? [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] ([[User talk:Spyspotter|talk]]) 13:46, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
:Could you provide a specific example? The redlinks work okay for me. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 22:18, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

== Welcoming new users ==

Wow! Not even the ''administrators'' could spend ''10 seconds'' welcoming users. I just welcomed 30+ users. The easiest way to welcome users is to go [[Special:User creation log|here]]. Can't the administrators just do their duty{{tt|*|Please don't laugh.}}? [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] 21:27, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
:You are aware of the large number of spambots we've been getting, right? A good chunk of those "users" might not even be people. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 22:04, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
::To follow on from Ataro's message, as a result of the mass of spambots, we've been waiting for users to make their first edits before we welcome them with the template{{tt|*|Ask for a potential reason this may be first, to prevent situations like this where you come off as a bit of a twerp.}}.--[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 22:35, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
:::Just want to say that as a non-staff member, I follow the same idea so as to not worry about welcoming bots and vandals. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 22:51, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

== "Synopsis" ==
Bulbapedia is sprawling with examples of lengthy, detailed, written accounts of short works of fiction which are (downright absurdly) labeled "Synopsis". Anyone who believes that this labeling is appropriate should consult a dictionary. They need to be either rewritten as actual synopses, or simply relabeled. I am in favor of the former, since the aforementioned (comparative) length and detail of the summaries, coupled with narratives that are often completely off the mark as summaries, but rather retells the work of fiction anew (as a story itself), render many of the site's "Synopsis"-sections highly unencyclopedic. I post this to engage in dialogue, so tell me what you think should(n't) be done, please. [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 14:41, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
:Yeah, they should probably be called "Plot". I don't think we should remove massive amounts of information to just make them actually comply with the definition of a word that was incorrectly used to label them—simply, the label should be changed. I agree, a lot of them are basically stories themselves, and they shouldn't be. These sections should be written detailing what happened in present tense, not using any kind of emotive language. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:26, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
::Then we agree on that much. How will we go about renaming the sections? I suggested those massive amounts of information for removal under the assumption that an actual synopsis, and little more, was the degree of plot summary initially/ideally desired by an encyclopedia such as Bulbapedia. In other words, I believe that the scene-by-scene relaying, attempting to substitute the subject media content, as opposed to summarize its key points and provide the reader with an overview and some understanding of the work, is uncharacteristic of an encyclopedia, more fitting as content for other kinds of websites, or Bulbapedia's appendix namespace. That's my opinion, included since it ties in with the topic I brought up for discussion, but I realize that it isn't going places. As for ridding the sections of emotive language, I presume that this is already a long-established work in progress, carried out by editors who happen to read these sections, so nothing new there. Thank you for replying. [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 15:36, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
:::They're still labeled as synopses. I can't imagine anyone disagreeing here, the suggestion is not pedantic, the change would be kind of easy to implement—what's the hold-up? [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 13:48, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
::::So it's been decided that all "Synopsis" sections will be renamed "Plot", and an official blurb should be added where possible. {{u|Maverick Nate}} has already begun work on this. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:00, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

== Sounds ==

We should use sounds. I'm pretty sure Wikipedia uses them, and besides, if our wikicode can handle videos, then it can handle sounds. If we can install sounds, we would be able to have Pokémon cries and possibly music themes{{tt|*|You could make them loop around to cut recording lengths, as most music themes are less than 2 minutes long}}. [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] 18:08, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

== Categorize the main page ==

It seems weird that there is even 1 uncategorized page. The main page would fit well in the Bulbapedia category{{tt|*|I can't link it because if I did this talk page would be put into the bulbapedia category.}}. [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] 02:24, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

== Ads ==
Adds have been appearing on every page I visit, coming from the lower border of the screen, even when I'm already logged in, it's very bothering specially for editing. Since I haven't installed anything lately and it only happens on this site, I just wanted to make sure if this comes actually from Bulbapedia and will still happening, or not. It is? --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 01:28, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
:We did some stuff to our ad listings today, and clearly something is not quite right. We are aware of it and working on it. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:43, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
::On my browser, there are ads that pop up and say, "Find out more about what is changing and why. Find out more about this new ad unit." It requires me to turn it off, which can warp me to a different page, which is annoying while editing. And needless to say, this is happening while I'm logged on. [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] [[User talk:Spyspotter|says…]] Edit the mainspace, [[Special:ListUsers|kids!]] 02:23, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
:::[https://twitter.com/Bulbapedia/status/343206410974269441 It's a technical issue]. It will be fixed as soon as possible. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:19, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

==2 Problems==

1. The search bar blocks part of the page, which is annoying especially when editing.

2. I don't know where else to post this, so I'll post it here. Whenever I try to post on the forums, there is no typing field and instead there is an indigo-colored blank space between the post title and the other stuff.

Can someone fix those errors? [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] [[User talk:Spyspotter|says…]] Edit the mainspace, [[Special:ListUsers|kids!]] 03:17, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
:It may be an issue with your browser, what browser do you use and how long has the problem been occurring? '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 03:54, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
::IE and Safari. The problem's been going on for as long as I was here. [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] [[User talk:Spyspotter|says…]] Edit the mainspace, [[Special:ListUsers|kids!]] 03:56, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Hmm. I checked on my Safari and both the search bar and forum seem fine. I don't have IE so I can't check that. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 04:07, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
::::Are you using the most recent version of IE and Safari? [[User:G50|''ㄱ'']][[User talk:G50|''쉰'']] G50 04:15, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
:::::IE 10 won't download, but IE 9 should work. Safari is fully updated and it has the two problems. [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] [[User talk:Spyspotter|says…]] Edit the mainspace, [[Special:ListUsers|kids!]] 12:04, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

==Long-Running Script==

Whenever I visit a page that isn't in the main or talk namespace, an error message will pop up 90% of the time and say that bulbapedia has stopped functioning due to a "long-running script." I then have 2 options:

1. Click "stop script," and then be redirected to a page that says Bulbagarden has been shut down permanently, and be unable to go back.

2. Click "cancel," and then watch my computer crash. The only way to fix that would be to unplug it.

First of all, what is this "long-running script?" And, how in tarnation does the "Bulbagarden shut down" message appear? And, can those errors be fixed somehow? [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] [[User talk:Spyspotter|says…]] Edit the mainspace, [[Special:ListUsers|kids!]] 02:49, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
:What browser and addons are you using? That might help us try to nail down what's causing the issue. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:58, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
::I should add, this only happens on IE. Also, bigger pages are more likely to crash my computer, not to say that small ones don't. [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] [[User talk:Spyspotter|says…]] Edit the mainspace, [[Special:ListUsers|kids!]] 03:05, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

==Twitter Feed==

Am I the only one having trouble seeing the Twitter box on the main page??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] ([[User talk:1rkhachatryan|talk]]) 05:24, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
:I can't see it either. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 05:30, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
::Nor can I. I wonder what's going on with it? [[User:PokefanR|PokefanR]] ([[User talk:PokefanR|talk]]) 05:36, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Twitter updated their API today and as a result the widget we used to run the feed stopped working, we are trying to fix it. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 07:31, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

== x and y countdown ==

Now that we know the release date of x and y there should be a countdownn like the one bulbapedia had for black and white [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 06:22, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
:The system we were using for the countdown was broken by a MediaWiki update a while back and no longer works. We haven't yet got another system to function adequately in order to replace it. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:47, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
::Was it similar to the one used on [http://www.khwiki.net/Template:Countdown this page?] Because if not, that one seems to work well so long as the input date and time is valid. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 20:57, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
==Problems?==
Every time I want to access a page, it asks if I want to download it. It is only after a click the link around 20 times that I can go the page without having to download it. For example, this is what I get if I want I click "Random":
----
You have chosen to open: '''Special_Random'''
:which is a: application/x-httpd-php (2.4 KB)
:from: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net
What should Firefox do with this file?
:Open with [Browse]
:Save File
:Do this automatically for files like this from now on.
----
I tested this out with Firefox and Google Chrome, still the same error. Along with this, certain pages are styled strangely - for the editing box for editing the talkpage of the main page, the editing box is rather tiny, and the character palette has all clickable symbols underlined, any of these symbols when clicked doing nothing (with the exception of taking you to the top of the page).

On the front page, there is no light grey "Search" word in the search box, and the UTC clock has disappeared. Sometimes there is a rather medium sized space between the "Due to a security issue..." message and the "Welcome to Bulbapedia!" message. Also, sometimes the green background turns into a white background.

Also, some pages are displayed without the stylesheet.--[[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 14:17, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
:Not happening anymore. --[[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 14:19, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

== Prerelease policy suggestion ==

(Not sure whether there's a good/easily-seen place to put this, so I'm gonna put it here Just Because.) As I'm sure most people are aware, the disconnect between the Archives and Bulbapedia means that some images are stuck in their old forms for days, weeks, or months after they've been updated on the Archives. Judging by prerelease Pokémon reveals so far this generation, we're getting Sugimori art within hours or a couple of days after we put low-quality CoroCoro scans on our pages, and then the Sugimori art takes a long time to get repaired on our pages. This makes our pages look unpolished for everyone and {{DL|User talk:Reshi643|Would you please|confuses new users, leading them to unnecessarily suggest that the art be updated even though it technically already has been}}. To neutralize this problem, '''I suggest that low-quality prerelease scans use a different image file name than the final artwork'''. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 22:49, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
:As problematic as it is, one of the first reasons against it I have is that if they are uploaded as separate files, we lose the history of the file, and what we had at a specific point in time. I actually find having image histories more important in the long run than removing them in order to fix problems in the short run. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:13, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
::Point taken; I hadn't thought about that. As an alternative approach to a solution, is there any possibility of finding a way to lessen the syncing problem itself? Perhaps some kind of way of marking certain images (like these prerelease scans) as "high importance" or something to get the software to attempt to sync them more often? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:46, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
:::On the other hand, keeping the magazine scans as separate images would allow us to keep the history of the Bulbanews articles, in that we would have magazine croppings on the BN article when that was all we had, but the clean artworks when we got those. Ideally though, there would be some way to fix the Archives caches issue. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:14, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

== Pokemon - Ken Sugimori Artworks ==

Hi! I would like to ask if ever we could change all Pokemon official high quality Artworks with smaller but unified sizes from Pokemon Zukan Website? It has around 350x300 pixels in size per image and has shadows on it, png type of images. Just asking if it is okay? I just ripped all the Pokemon images from Zukan website, Thank you... --[[User:Gaspershut|''GASPER'']][[User talk:Gaspershut|''shut...'']] 06:35, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
:I don't think shadows are wanted. Also, I think that high resolution images are better as well. For artworks, consistent dimensions is not as important. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:15, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
::ahh.. Okay I'm just asking since not all Artworks are available in High Quality.--[[User:Gaspershut|''GASPER'']][[User talk:Gaspershut|''shut...'']] 08:34, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

== Anatomy Vs. Physiology ==

I already asked this if we could change all Physiology to Anatomy under Biology section or add Anatomy to it.It doesn't fit at all, that the description of the Pokemon's body parts is not Physiology. --[[User:Gaspershut|''GASPER'']][[User talk:Gaspershut|''shut...'']] 08:46, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
:The staff are currently working on a new way too present information about this section prior to the release of X+Y. So please be patient. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 03:28, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
::I'm not being frantic or anything... actually I'm not hurrying anyone I'm just asking since I already asked it, for I remember, prior the release of Pokemon Black and White. I just noticed it again when I opened my account. Thank You...--[[User:Gaspershut|''GASPER'']][[User talk:Gaspershut|''shut...'']] 12:14, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
:::I didn't think you were, but I can see how my comment may have made it sound otherwise, and I apologise for that. But it's one of the changes that will be implemented when we go through and update all the Pokémon to the new style, so you were heard and listened too :) --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 12:37, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

== Bug in Uncategorized Categories list ==

There is an issue in the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:UncategorizedCategories Uncategorized categories] list. Most of those in the list are already given categories, but are not registering properly in them. What may have caused this? [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 21:42, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
:Looks like, of those 17 results, only 1 of them should be there. Seems like a server-side issue, as purging the cache didn't do anything. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 14:06, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
::I see. Well, hopefully the issue gets resolved. Thanks for the reply. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 17:55, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

== Mega Evolutions Artwork ==

Where are we going to put them? on the pokemon pages or the mega evolution page? [[User:Volcronaperson|_Volcronaperson_]] 20:35, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
:Yes. To clarify: The art (for now, this may change to in-game images in future) Should be, and already is for most/all the ones we know about, on the [[Mega Evolution]] page. Art on the species pages is going to need a new template, which is already partially built but still a way off yet. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:06, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

== Generation VI Pokémon ==

Are the administrators waiting to add info about the new Pokémon to their pages? I was just on the [http://www.pokemonxy.com/ Pokémon X and Y Official Site] and they have limited information about some of the new Pokémon. I don't know if people are aware of this and just waiting to add it, or if we're not supposed to, or what. Just trying to help. :D [[User:KyuremsIceBlade|'''Kyurems''']][[User talk:KyuremsIceBlade|'''Ice''']][[Special:Contributions/KyuremsIceBlade|'''Blade''']] 19:11, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
:Is there something on the official site that we don't mention? [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 21:39, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
::Well, there is some information about certain Pokémon that we don't have, such as a tidbit I saw about {{p|Honedge}}. It says: "If you were to carelessly take this blade in hand, you may find that blue cloth wrapping around you... draining the energy from your body!" Also, it says {{p|Inkay}} has transmitters above its eyes that can drain the will to fight from other Pokémon, and it says {{p|Malamar}} has some of the strongest hypnotic powers of any Pokémon, it can make other Pokémon bend to its will, and many people try to use it for nefarious purposes. I bet there's more, but this should be going on the species articles, not the Main Page. [[User:KyuremsIceBlade|'''Kyurems''']][[User talk:KyuremsIceBlade|'''Ice''']][[Special:Contributions/KyuremsIceBlade|'''Blade''']] 19:30, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
:::This is just a guess, but I have a feeling those might end up being Pokédex entries. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 20:28, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
::::That's what I was starting to think, too as I read more of them... well, thanks for listening and replying. [[User:KyuremsIceBlade|'''''KYUREM'S''''']] [[User talk:KyuremsIceBlade|'''''ICE''''']] [[Special:Contributions/KyuremsIceBlade|'''''BLADE''''']] 12:00, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

== Differently color-coded generatons ==

I noticed today that the colors commonly used for generations (i.e. Orange for Generation V, green for Generation III) have been swapped with different colors. The normally used orange for Generation V is now a light blue color. I now that this isn't a top priority thing, but, I was just wondering. [[User:PokefanR|PokefanR]] ([[User talk:PokefanR|talk]]) 22:49, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
:You can find an in depth reason for the color changes {{ut|Kogoro#Region colors|on my talk page}}. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 22:54, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

== X&Y party/item sprites ==

You can rip the 2D sprites seen in screens like the inventory and Pokémon lists by using a 3DS capture card and ripping them the classic way (i.e. taking screenshots and cutting the sprites out). Just throwing that out there.[[User:Goomba98|Goomba98]] ([[User talk:Goomba98|talk]]) 01:29, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

== Ampersands in titles ==

For articles that contain ampersands (& ←like this), clicking the edit top of page link or new section link leads to a window where you end up editing a page with a title that goes up to before the first ampersand. For example: editing [[Black & White TCG Series merchandise|this page]] in this manner leads to editing [[Black|this page]] instead. In other words, the ampersand performs a cutoff. How can this be resolved? [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 23:00, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
:That doesn't seem to be happening for me. The ampersands that are part of the page titles end up being replaced by the character code "%26", thus avoiding the cutoff, when I go to edit the page you used as an example. Out of curiosity, what web browser is this happening on? [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 23:18, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
::This is on a Safari browser. Haven't checked IE yet. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 23:59, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
:::If the problem is happening on Safari, I would not recommend using IE as an alternative, it will probably still happen. I'm on Chrome, and that replaces & with %26. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 00:21, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
::::Likewise, Firefox also replaces ampersands with %26. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 00:36, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
:::::Actually, I'm reproducing Berrenta's glitch in Firefox. The problem arises not from clicking the "edit this page" link but rather from the "[edit top of page]" link to edit the top-most section. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|'''Miles''']] ([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|talk]]) 00:39, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
::::::Yup, reproducing it in Chrome using the Edit top of page link. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 00:41, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Well then, seeing as I never use that "Edit top of page", it's understandable why I never noticed it. The issue does not seem to happen when editing sections, either. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 01:01, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
::::::::Yeah, it also used to occur when trying to follow a redlinked page with an ampersand in the tile (although it seems to work fine now). To prevent the issue, I guess adding <nowiki>__NOEDITSECTION__</nowiki> to the top of any page with an ampersand in the title would work; for [[Pokémon Box Ruby & Sapphire]], I just protected {{redlink|Pokémon Box Ruby}} to prevent accidental creation. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:23, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::Looks like that because the first section is set up in a special way, <nowiki>__NOEDITSECTION__</nowiki> has no effect. If there is no page at the part of the title before the ampersand, it should be create-protected. Otherwise, just avoid using "edit top of page" of pages with ampersands in them. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:26, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::Would it be possible and feasible to force redirect a section back into editing the lead. Example: Edit "Arceus LV.X Deck: Grass" to feature a redirect to Arceus LV.X Deck: Grass & Fire (TCG) in editing mode? --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 06:53, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::: :/ Since I just realized that wouldn't work, would a better idea be to move the articles with "&" to "and" while including {{template|wrongtitle}} in the lede? Especially since the search function doesn't play well with the ampersand. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:42, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::::What issue is there with the search function? I've never heard of that one before, and I can't find it. & only causes minor issues, so since it is technically possible to use in titles, I think we should. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:51, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::::I was referring to searching for anything containing an "&" prevents any results from showing up. [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=%26&fulltext=1 Example] --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:55, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Results show up if the searched text contains an &, it's just not if you ''only'' search an &. All special characters are ignored on the search page, so you get the same result if you search ! or @. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:11, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
:Okay, tested in Internet Explorer, and it seems to work normally there, as & was properly converted to %26. Seems the issue only applies to certain browsers, like Safari. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 18:15, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
::Kogoro updated the code, but because of where it is, it's very slow to update. Browser choice has nothing to do with the issue at all, simply the javascript that encoded those links had failed to 'escape' the page title, and with the limited knowledge of javascript among active staff it took us a while to figure out how to fix it. Also, something to note is that it does not escape the characters @*/ and + The only of which should matter is the rarely used +. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:16, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
:::Well, I tested again on Safari today, and it seems to work properly now. Thanks for the update! ^_^ [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 22:03, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

== Bad news ==

I learned that Hiroshi Yamauchi died so please add the news. article {{unsigned|PokeSerbia}}

here's an link
http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Draft:Former_Nintendo_President_Passes_away {{unsigned|PokeSerbia}}

:Since that is a Bulbanews article, which is under the same figurative roof as Bulbapedia, it's likely going to be reflected here soon enough in full detail. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 14:50, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

==Twitter==

Is the twitter feed down again??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] ([[User talk:1rkhachatryan|talk]]) 22:54, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Nevermind lol, my computer just glitched for a second.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] ([[User talk:1rkhachatryan|talk]]) 22:55, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

==Forums==

Um are the forums down or is it just my computer??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] ([[User talk:1rkhachatryan|talk]]) 17:32, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
:The forums were indeed down but they should be working fine now. [[User:Adyniz|'''Adyniz''']] — [[User talk:Adyniz|'''Wanna talk?''']] 17:58, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

== Type charts on Gen VI Pokemon ==

The full Gen VI type chart has been released, so why don't any of the Gen VI Pokemon have a type chart on their pages? [[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] ([[User talk:ArchedThunder|talk]]) 00:31, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
:The {{template|Type effectiveness}} template is currently only compatible with Gen V, and alot of stuff has to be updated with Gen VI coming out, so it's all a matter of patience. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 04:23, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

== Names of Pokemon games in general ==
Hey! Just wanted to bring this giant post I just typed elsewhere to your attention, instead of retyping the same info over again: http://vgmdb.net/forums/showpost.php?p=56272&postcount=3
In short, Japan stopped using "Pocket Monsters" outside of the katakana when R/S dropped, and at the same time Nintendo as a whole started up a consistent branding scheme (actually I'm not ''entirely'' sure how it scales to ''everything'' else but) that most people don't seem to notice (only with X/Y has this been changed (for the better)). Because of this, I believe we (and Wikipedia, and everywhere else) needs to rethink how we handle the game titles. There's a reason things like the albums refer to themselves as "Pokémon", and it's not to be "import friendly".
If I've come across as a bit brusque, I apologize, but I find it a bit silly that this has gone unnoticed for a decade! [[User:Despatche|Despatche]] ([[User talk:Despatche|talk]]) 08:26, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

:I get your point that in Japan the English name of the games is "Pokémon Ruby" etc. after RS, but I'm not entirely sure what you're suggesting. The italic English text next to Japanese names is supposed to be a translation of the text, and there is a katakana difference between "Pokémon" and "Pocket Monsters", so they are translated as such where appropriate. It is important to note that the Japanese text does say "Pocket Monsters", as in Japan the main series is officially the "Pocket Monsters series" [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game-series/]. Also, it's worth noting that Pokémon Stadium does the exact opposite of what you mentioned: the katakana says "Pokémon", but the Latin text says "Pocket Monsters" (for all three games). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:15, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

::Ah, sorry. I'm suggesting that we should use "Pokémon" as that transliteration for these later games instead of "Pocket Monsters", because that's what Nintendo does... we do the same for Pokemon themselves, for example. The trick is that you really want to avoid transliterating if you can help it; you can produce multiple official titles out of what looks like one. Basically, what's happening is that you have a katakana (here, anyway) title that is always used within itself, and a Roman-based title that is always used within itself--"進撃の巨人" and "Attack on Titan" is similar--two ''completely'' different titles used within the same context to refer to the same work (at the same time). That page may say "ポケットモンスターシリーズ", but you can bet it would have used "Pokémon" if they could help it.
::And yeah, with the Stadium case, those games were part of the old branding, which used "Pokemon" whenever it pleased. Technically, "Pokémon" is actually part of a "phrase shortening" trend that's pretty common in Japanese ("Famicom"'s a great example, and this is also why the term is even "Pokémon" to begin with), so it was occasionally used by Nintendo wherever they felt; Pokemon Puzzle Challenge became "Pokemon no Panepon" (heh, "Panepon" is another example of that shortening, being short for Panel de Pon) for its Japanese release, for example.
::(Fun fact: technically the katakana isn't actually "Pocket Monsters" transliterated; there's a common tendency (it's totally random!) to remove the final S/Z sound at the end of plurals in these transliterations, so it's ''really'' "Pocket Monster". "ポケットモンスターシリーズ" is a great example of with and without, in fact. Platinum is similar; the katakana actually reads "platina" (a word usually used to refer to alloys of platinum) and at least [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/otanosimi/platina/aikotoba/ one Nintendo website] uses this.) [[User:Despatche|Despatche]] ([[User talk:Despatche|talk]]) 06:03, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
:::I think I get your point, but the problem is that the "English name in Japan" is not an accurate translation of the actual text. Pokémon names are only alternate romanizations, not alternate phrases entirely. Pokémon and Pocket Monsters are used distinctly, so the translation should accurately reflect this. In your Attack on Titan example, were we to have an article on it (it's not relevant to Pokémon, so we shouldn't), it would be formatted as
::::'''Attack on Titan''' (Japanese: '''進撃の巨人''' ''Advancing Titans'')
:::However, I do take your point that it would be useful to note the official Asian-English names of the games, but the problem is that in the case of Pearl (for example), we have ポケットモンスター officially as ''Pokémon'', but nothing for パール. (Asian-English is a term used in Yu-Gi-Oh, so I'm borrowing it here for clarity; there may be a better term, but it will do for the circumstances.) For the record, platinum in Japanese comes from the Spanish word "platina" rather than the English one, thus why it is formatted as such (or at least, that's what I remember being told by my high-school Japanese teacher). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:50, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
::::1. "Pokémon" is most definitely a distinct title from "ポケモン", even. Titles are not about meaning, not ever; they are always about physical structure. It's pretty obvious that there are three different titles used (for whatever reasons there may be) to refer to the same work: "Pokémon", "ポケモン", and "ポケットモンスター". What else is there to it? (As a sidenote, I disprove of the preference for translations, specifically over romaji... where can I open a discussion about that?)
::::2. That sounds like a pretty good case for not having romaji ''at all'', doesn't it? Fortunately, Nintendo at least provides "Platinum" here (nearly every single Japanese page on the game uses it), and likely provides the same for the other games (at the least, they outright use "Pokémon <version>" on every soundtrack album since Ruby and Sapphire's). [[User:Despatche|Despatche]] ([[User talk:Despatche|talk]]) 06:22, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

== Unknown Dungeon ==

I either cannot or am unable to find where to create a page for the Unknown Dungeon in Gen VI that holds mewtwo. Could someone make this? The dungeon's entrance is in Pokémon Village.

[[User:TheJaceX|TheJaceX ]] ([[User talk:TheJaceX|talk]]) 21:17, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

== Time for archive 13? ==

I mean this page is getting pretty big! [[User:Bill Gates|Bill Gates]] ([[User talk:Bill Gates|talk]]) 20:58, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

== Suggestion ==

I know we changed the Pokemon artwork images to a square ratio for practical reasons, not aesthetic ones, but now that they're the standard, other articles with Sugimori images — [[Valerie]] is the one I noticed, but most humans' articles, in fact — look abnormal because they break this new standard. Can we just apply the square requirement to all official art used in infoboxes so things match aesthetically? (I know this is totally not a priority and thus will absolutely not happen at least until the XY info is all put up, but I thought I'd suggest it to be implemented at some point in the future.) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:50, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
:This was actually something we bought up whilst making the decision to square the images of Pokemon. With the character art a lot of the pictures are a fair bit taller then what they are wide, whereas with Pokemon, the difference is to a much less significant degree. As a result, when the character images are forced to comply with the infobox a significant amount of quality is loss. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 06:11, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

== Pokémon X and Y sprites and icons ==

I just wanna ask when you guys will have the X and Y icons and sprites. [[User:Raichu8575|Raichu8575]] ([[User talk:Raichu8575|talk]]) 15:50, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
:"Sprites" in the traditional sense don't really exist anymore; Pokémon in Gen VI are represented by fully in-motion 3D models with no single "still image" to really take as a sprite. That's probably why in the Evolution section of any Pokémon page, you'll see official artwork instead of the current sprite like there used to be. The Sprites section may end up being something that only goes up to Gen V now. As for the icons? I saw some Gen VI icons around a few days ago but they're since been removed, apparently. No clue why. --[[User:Kianglo|KiANGLO]] ''([[User talk:Kianglo|TALK]])'' 22:57, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
::Likely if we can get the files, we might create a model section for each Pokémon, though it isn't possible at the moment. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 00:03, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
:::There's still party sprites, even for completely new Pokémon. They're also used when choosing a Friend Safari to enter. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 00:05, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
::::I know, and like I said I saw them before; on a type page I think, when it listed all the Pokémon of that type. Gen VI Pokémon were there, icon and all. Maybe someone uploaded icons but they got taken down? --[[User:Kianglo|KiANGLO]] ''([[User talk:Kianglo|TALK]])'' 03:26, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::Yes, they were taken down because the user who uploaded them admitted to stealing them from Serebii. The images will be uploaded once someone can get them themselves and not steal them from other sites.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:50, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::I would just like to add to this that Nintendo has solved our problem for us, the update for 3DS that is coming this month adds Miiverse support and the ability to take screenshots whenever you want and have them posted to Miiverse. Obviously we can have people go and take pictures of every Pokemon and we can remove the background and use those as the "sprites". If any staff is reading this I would gladly help with this once the update is out, as I know it will be a huge undertaking.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] ([[User talk:ArchedThunder|talk]]) 08:53, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Well... The update came out and for some reason you can't take pictures of Pokemon X and Y... I hope they update it so you can.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] ([[User talk:ArchedThunder|talk]]) 08:55, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

== Watchlist ==

Hi there. So I've been having trouble adding a page to my watchlist these past few days. It's the Clemont anime page and it keeps saying an error occurred. I w as just wondering if this was just me or if other people are having trouble to??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] ([[User talk:1rkhachatryan|talk]]) 17:48, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
:The "watch"/"unwatch" button at the top of the page seems to be broken. You can find my report {{DL|Help talk:Editing|Watchlist error|here}}. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 18:26, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for letting me know, I'm glad to know it wasn't just me :).[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] ([[User talk:1rkhachatryan|talk]]) 19:12, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
:Yeah, a couple of people have been reporting this problem. Just dropping a note to say that the staff is aware of the problem, and we're working to get it fixed. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 22:09, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
::Vunderbar. Glad to know something like this, even if seemingly minor, has been noticed by staff. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 22:40, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

== Volcanion, Hoopa, and Diancie ==

So I'm sure most of you have heard about the three legendary event Pokemon recently found in the coding for X and Y. So I want to ask: Why do we not have pages for them?

Obviously we don't have any info yet, and I understand that, but we had a page for [[Trevenant]] long before we even knew his English name. Couldn't we make a page for them and not have any info for them (even PokeDex number)? I know they're real, I went into the X and Y GTS and saw for my self. So I think we need pages for them.

Opinions? (And before you give them, please read my ENTIRE post. I've gotten way too many posts that have logic that I already broke in my explanation. And if you don't think my explanation is accurate, tell me why. Cuz it gets annoying when its just "NO WE DONT HAVE ANY INFO IDIOT. YOUR STUPID."

[[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 17:49, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

:That's because at the time, Trevenant's existence was confirmed by official footage. --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 17:51, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
::Before this conversation goes too far, let me redirect you to the already-ongoing discussion about these three at {{DL|Bulbapedia talk:Editor's Hub|Regarding Volcanion, Hoopa and Diancie|Bulbapedia talk:Editor's Hub → Regarding Volcanion, Hoopa and Diancie}}. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:01, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

:::Diancie now has a page, but here's what I'm wondering: why would we have pages talking about Mega Lati@s if they haven't been confirmed? Just saying. --[[User:Derpyderpy|Derpyderpy]] ([[User talk:Derpyderpy|talk]]) 14:19, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

== MediaWiki update/upgrade ==

It's what's causing some template issues right now, isn't it? And while we're at it, could the "Erika's Garden" skin be updated and fixed? [[User:SatoMew2|Sato]][[User talk:SatoMew2|Mew]] 23:13, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

== Where are the menu sprites for new Pokémon, bag sprites for Mega Stones and other newly introduced items (Assault Vest, etc.)? ==

We had them all up before but they keep getting taken down! What's the problem? Does anyone here have any idea of when they will be back up for good? It's getting really annoying to see the red error text and ? mark sprites throughout the site! [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] ([[User talk:Dialgafan1|talk]]) 20:56, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
:They were stolen from other fan sites, so they were deleted off of the archives. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 20:58, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
::That's Pokémon sprites. The bag sprites - the user claimed to have 3DS Capture Card, but hasn't given any proof within requested period of time. [[User:Uploader|Uploader]] ([[User talk:Uploader|talk]]) 21:01, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
What really annoys me the most is that if they were taken from Serebii, who honestly cares! It's gonna likely be in the exact same quality if someone were to rip the sprites with a capture card. But the law is the law. I wish we could just ask them for permission to take their stuff so we can clear this whole mess up. I honestly think no one is gonna upload the sprites anytime soon. [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] ([[User talk:Dialgafan1|talk]]) 21:06, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
:It's too early to determine that. Besides, Generation VI just started. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 21:08, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
::Joe (aka Serebii, aka webmaster of the {{tt|Serebii|yo dawg, be called Serebii and be webmaster of website called Serebii. Serebii managing Serebii... what? That's confusing.}}) will care, since he stated that he doesn't want us to use stuff acquired from his website. [[User:Uploader|Uploader]] ([[User talk:Uploader|talk]]) 21:13, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
:::To build on this, we can ask for permission to use the resources that others have put up. No one has explicitly given permission for us to do so, thus there is no sprites at the moment. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 21:19, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

== About the "characteristics" of types... ==

I noticed that within each page on the individual Pokémon types, there is a 'Characteristics' section, which describes both defensive and offensive characteristics. However, is this all really necessary? Firstly, this seems like Smogon standards, and shouldn't belong on a site that discusses only facts. Second, each 'Characteristics' section says pretty much the same thing. "It's good overall." This is just my opinion, but I don't think it's really that needed. [[User:Zorocario|Zorocario]] ([[User talk:Zorocario|talk]]) 02:13, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
:I agree. It's opinionated and, in my experience, tends to attract editors who (A) add more egregiously opinionated material that just has to be removed and (B) are especially unfamiliar with our standards of notability. I'd love to see the sections axed. All of the important unopinionated information in them is already given in the type effectiveness and average stat sections on the same pages. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:40, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

== Problem ==
Mobile View button and m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net do not load any version of the site. [[User:Snowe|Snowe]] ([[User talk:Snowe|talk]]) 06:16, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
:Same problem. Whenever I try to do either it just tells me the site doesn't exist. Tried it on both the desktop and a mobile phone. --[[User:Weavilewarrior|Weavile Warrior]] ([[User talk:Weavilewarrior|talk]]) 01:50, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
::I've had this problem with every browser i've tried. Tried on desktop and my phone, but neither work. Can it be fixed?--[[User:SamurottMaster4747|SamurottMaster4747]] ([[User talk:SamurottMaster4747|talk]]) 02:18, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
:::I think the problem is because there ''isn't'' an m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net. If you want to browse from your phone, you can go right on to the normal site. A mobile site has to actually be coded for it to exist. If no one made it, it won't just automatically be there just because you're using a phone. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 16:43,1/28/2014 (UTC)
::::But there is a mobile site option at the bottom of the homepage, which means it must be coded and existing.. --[[User:Weavilewarrior|Weavile Warrior]] ([[User talk:Weavilewarrior|talk]]) 22:23, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::The mobile option was added by a MediaWiki upgrade, but does not actually exist. Please do not use it. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 22:24, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

== Tecnical problem ==

When I'm on the home page, I get this message:
Error creating thumbnail: convert: no decode delegate for this image format `/tmp/magick-cSDv1Klr' @ error/constitute.c/ReadImage/532.
convert: missing an image filename `/tmp/transform_2ea9dab991f0-1.png' @ error/convert.c/ConvertImageCommand/3011.
--[[User:Chero|Chero]] ([[User talk:Chero|talk]]) 16:03, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
:Click the running UTC clock at the top of the page, beside your username. The images should repair themselves. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 16:27, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

== Strange occurrence ==

I'm not really sure if there's an actual place to report general site bugs, but for some odd reason, [[Special:Log]] has the [http://puu.sh/6Nth3.png edit top of page option], which does nothing except take you to Special:Log. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 19:59,2/7/2014 (UTC)

This is still a thing. I'm not sure anyone is reading this after so long, but I just wanted to point it out once more, if it hasn't been noticed. [[User:PkmnASKE|PkmnASKE]] ([[User talk:PkmnASKE|talk]]) 15:17, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

== The Speed Gamers are now offline ==

Hello there, The Speed Gamers are now offline. When do you plan to show BNN again? --[[User:Zubat101|Zubat101]] ([[User talk:Zubat101|talk]]) 17:28, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Wonder Trade

2014-06-15T15:37:32Z

Derpyderpy:

{{incomplete}}
'''Wonder Trade''' (Japanese: '''ミラクルこうかん''' ''Miracle Exchange'') is a feature introduced in [[Pokémon X and Y]] that allows players to randomly [[trade]] with another player using the feature.

Wonder Trading is accessed from the first menu of the [[Player Search System]]. Players send out their own Pokémon, the system searches for a Wonder Trade partner, then trades the Pokémon. Wonder Trading will give the player [[Poké Mile]]s depending on how far the other player Wonder Trading with them is from their location; the farther the other player, the more Poké Miles will be earned. Anyone traded with will be added to the Acquaintances section of the PSS. The trader location and the Pokémon traded are usually completely random. Most Pokémon traded through a Wonder Trade are weak and extremely common, like [[Bunnelby]] or [[Fletchling]].

Like regular trading, Wonder Trading can trigger [[trade]] [[evolution]]s. Neither [[Mega Stone]]s nor {{pkmn|Egg}}s can be traded using the feature. When a trade partner cannot be found, a message is displayed saying this.

== Untradeable Pokémon ==

As mentioned before, Eggs cannot be traded. Pokémon with unreleased Hidden Abilities, even if they are native to Kalos, cannot be Wonder Traded, resulting in a 'partner not found' message.

==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{x color}}|bordercolor={{y color}}
|fr_eu=Échange miracle
|de=Wundertausch
|it=Scambio prodigioso
|es_eu=Intercambio prodigioso
|ko=미라클 교환 ''Miracle Gyohwan''
}}

{{-}}
{{stub|Game}} 
{{Project Games notice}}

[[Category:Game mechanics]]

[[it:Scambio Prodigioso]]

Camphrier Town

2014-06-15T15:33:41Z

Derpyderpy: /* In the anime */

{{Town infobox
|name=Camphrier Town
|jpname=コボクタウン
|jptrans=Koboku Town
|image=Camphrier Town XY.png
|size=250
|region=Kalos
|generation=6
|slogan=A town where you can taste the ages.
|mapdesc=This ancient town was once famous for the long-neglected manor home of a noble family.
|west=Kalos Route 7
|westalt=Route 7
|east=Kalos Route 5
|eastalt=Route 5
|colordark=111100
|colormed=6F4E37
|colorlight=A67B5B}}

'''Camphrier Town''' (Japanese: '''コボクタウン''' ''Koboku Town'') is a city located in the [[Kalos]] [[region]]. Its citizens are generous towards tourists and it is where the Shabboneau Castle and Hotel Camphrier are located. It is also home to [[Cassius]], who operates the Kalos region's Pokémon Storage System.

==Places of interest==
===Shabboneau Castle===
{{main|Shabboneau Castle}}

===Name Rater===
Kalos's [[Name Rater]] can be found inside the [[Pokémon Center]] of Camphrier Town.

==Demographics==
The population of Camphrier Town is 20.

==Poké Mart==
{{shop|Generation VI (left cashier)}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Poké Ball|200}}|{{shopitem|Great Ball|600}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Super Potion|700}}|{{shopitem|Antidote|100}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Paralyze Heal|200}}|{{shopitem|Awakening|250}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Burn Heal|250}}|{{shopitem|Ice Heal|250}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Escape Rope|550}}|{{shopitem|Repel|350}}}}
{{shopfooter}}

==Items==
{{Itlisth|road}}
{{Itemlist|Ultra Ball|From the man pacing around outside of the [[Pokémon Center]]|X=yes|y=yes|display={{ball|Ultra}}}}
{{Itemlist|TM Dark|From {{tc|Punk Girl}} in [[Cassius]]'s house|X=yes|y=yes|display={{TM|46|Thief}}}}
{{Itemlist|Antidote|In the bush, northwest of the fountain ''(hidden)''|X=yes|y=yes|display={{dl|Status ailment healing item|Antidote}}}}
{{Itemlist|Berry Juice|From a girl west of the fountain|X=yes|y=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Sweet Heart|From a Maid in the northwestern-most house ''(daily; 5 given on 14 February and 14 March)''|X=yes|y=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Cheri Berry|From a person in the northwestern-most house that asks to see a Pokémon of a specific type ''(daily)''|X=yes|y=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Chesto Berry|From a person in the northwestern-most house that asks to see a Pokémon of a specific type ''(daily)''|X=yes|y=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Pecha Berry|From a person in the northwestern-most house that asks to see a Pokémon of a specific type ''(daily)''|X=yes|y=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Rawst Berry|From a person in the northwestern-most house that asks to see a Pokémon of a specific type ''(daily)''|X=yes|y=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Aspear Berry|From a person in the northwestern-most house that asks to see a Pokémon of a specific type ''(daily)''|X=yes|y=yes}}
{{Itemlist|X Attack|Southwestern corner of town, hop over the ledge|X=yes|y=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Full Heal|From {{tc|Rising Star}} inside Hotel Camphrier|X=yes|y=yes|display={{dl|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}}}
{{Itemlist||sprite=Shock Ribbon|2F of the hotel; given to the {{player}}'s lead Pokémon{{dotw|Tu}}|X=yes|y=yes|display={{dl|List of Ribbons in the games|Shock Ribbon}}}}
{{Itemlist|Star Piece|At the end of the forest path, south of the town|X=yes|y=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Ether|Directly past the Star Piece in the forest south of town, in the bush ''(hidden)''|X=yes|y=yes}}
{{Itlistfoot|road}}

==Pokémon==
{{catch/header|road|6}}
{{Catch/div|road|Special}}
Occurs on random days in a random hotel after having spoken to the traders multiple times.
{{catch/entry6|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Trade|5|all=One|tradenum=130|tradename=Gyarados|type1=water}}
{{catch/entry6|133|Eevee|yes|yes|Trade|5|all=One|tradenum=000|type1=normal}}
{{catch/footer|road}}

==In the anime==
[[File:Camphrier Town anime.png|thumb|250px|Camphrier Town in the anime]]
Camphrier Town appeared in ''[[XY018|Awakening the Sleeping Giant!]]''. Every year, a [[Snorlax]] comes and eats a lot of food. It falls asleep, so the Lord of [[Shabboneau Castle]] plays the [[Poké Flute]], and the Snorlax wakes up and dances away, to come again next year. When [[Ash]] and his friends come, they find the Snorlax causing loud noises, so the go on an adventure to [[Parfum Palace]] to get the missing Poké Flute back.
{{sectionstub}}

==Trivia==
* Camphrier's Japanese motto is {{tt|枯れた　味わいの　町|Kareta ajiwai no machi}} ''"A town with a feeling of deep age"''.
* Camphrier is the only town in any generation to have the [[Name Rater]] inside the [[Pokémon Center]].

==Name origin==
{| class="roundy" style="float:left; background: #A67B5B; border: 3px solid #111100"
|-
! style="{{roundytl}}" | Language
! Name
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Origin
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Japanese
| コボクタウン ''Koboku Town''
| From 枯木 ''koboku'' (dry wood) or 古墨 (old inkstick)
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| English
| Camphrier Town
| From ''camphrier'', French for {{wp|Cinnamomum camphora|camphor tree}}
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| French
| Fort-Vanitas
| From ''Fort'' and ''{{wp|Vanitas}}''
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| German
| Vanitéa
| From ''Vanité'', French for Vanitas
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Italian
| Castel Vanità
| From ''castel'' (castle) and ''Vanitas''
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Spanish
| Pueblo Vánitas
| From ''Vanitas''
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Korean
| 고목내마을 ''Gomoknae Maeul''
| From 고목 (枯木) ''gomok'', dry wood

|}
{{-}}
{{Kalos}} 
{{Project Cities and Towns notice}}

[[Category:Kalos locations]]
[[Category:X and Y locations]]
[[Category:Cities]]

[[de:Vanitéa]]


[[fr:Fort-Vanitas]]
[[it:Castel Vanità]]
[[ja:コボクタウン]]
[[zh:枯木鎮]]

Talk:Primal Reversion

2014-06-15T15:18:26Z

Derpyderpy: Created page with "Shouldn't we add the myth of Groudon and Kyogre that's on the official website? ''Long, long ago, there appeared in Hoenn two Pokémon of fearsome power. These two became kno..."

Fighting

2014-06-11T14:45:00Z

Derpyderpy:

'''Fighting''' can refer to:

*The '''{{t|Fighting}} type''', one of the eighteen [[type]]s that a Pokémon can have.
*The {{TCG|Fighting}} [[Type (TCG)|type in the TCG]], represented by {{e|Fighting}}.
*A [[Pokémon battle]].
*The {{TCG|Energy|Fighting Energy}} from the TCG.
* '''[[Fighting Deck (TCG)]]''', a {{TCG|Theme Deck|theme}} {{TCG|half deck}} from [[Pokémon Play It!]], specializing in {{TCG|Fighting}} Pokémon.
 
{{disambig}}

[[it:Lotta]]
[[zh:格鬥]]

Type (Battrio)

2014-05-25T15:07:08Z

Derpyderpy:

{{BattrioTypes}}
Pucks in [[Pokémon Battrio]] have at least one set '''[[type]]''', a property much like in the [[core series]] that determines what [[move]]s a particular Pokémon will be weak against or resistant to in battle. A Pokémon's type is indicated by the symbol to the left of the Pokémon's name at the top of the puck across all versions of Pokémon Battrio. These symbols appear on the table to the right.

Battrio includes all types minus [[Fairy type]],
as featured in the core games, though did not cover all at the start of the system's lifespan. Only seven types were included in the first expansion, ''{{Battrio|Dialga and Palkia Clash}}'', with a further seven included in the ''{{Battrio|Darkrai Invasion}}'' expansion, and the final three in the ''{{Battrio|Mewtwo's Challenge}}'' expansion. Pokémon Battrio also later introduced two special types used exclusively on {{p|Arceus}} pucks, relative to its {{a|Multitype}} [[Ability]]. The Full-Plate type covers 17 standard types, whereas the Eleven-Plate covers all but the types of [[Plate]] used to create the [[Jewel of Life]] as featured in ''[[M12|Arceus and the Jewel of Life]]''.

==Standard type charts==
The effectiveness of types varies depending on the version of Pokémon Battrio, though all follow the same general pattern. The values in the tables below are applied during the damage calculation step. The size of slider bars during the {{tt|Type Battle phase|Battrio 0 and Battrio V only}} are also proportionate to the values.

===Prior to Battrio 0===
{| align="left" style="background: #000000; {{roundy|10px}}"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="17" style="{{roundytr|7px}} background:#0089CF" | Defending type
|-
! style="background:#{{normal color}}" | [[File:Battrio Normal type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{fire color}}" | [[File:Battrio Fire type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{water color}}" | [[File:Battrio Water type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{electric color}}" | [[File:Battrio Electric type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{grass color}}" | [[File:Battrio Grass type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{ice color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ice type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{fighting color}}" | [[File:Battrio Fighting type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{poison color}}" | [[File:Battrio Poison type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{ground color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ground type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{flying color}}" | [[File:Battrio Flying type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{psychic color}}" | [[File:Battrio Psychic type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{bug color}}" | [[File:Battrio Bug type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{rock color}}" | [[File:Battrio Rock type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{ghost color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ghost type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{dragon color}}" | [[File:Battrio Dragon type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{dark color}}" | [[File:Battrio Dark type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | [[File:Battrio Steel type.png|30px]]
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! rowspan="17" width="20px" style="background:#ED1D25" | A t t a c k i n g t y p e
! style="background:#{{normal color}}" | [[File:Battrio Normal type.png|30px]]
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! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +30
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +30
|
|
|
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -25
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{ghost color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ghost type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -45
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +25
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +25
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -25
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -25
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{dragon color}}" | [[File:Battrio Dragon type.png|30px]]
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +35
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -35
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{dark color}}" | [[File:Battrio Dark type.png|30px]]
|
|
|
|
|
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -25
|
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +30
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +30
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -25
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -25
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | [[File:Battrio Steel type.png|30px]]
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -25
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -25
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -25
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +30
|
|
|
|
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +30
|
|
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -25
|-
| colspan="19" style="{{roundybottom|7px}}; background:#{{white color}};" | These values apply to all versions up to and including Battrio S only.
|}
{{-}}
===In Battrio 0===
{| align="left" style="background: #000000; {{roundy|10px}}"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="17" style="{{roundytr|7px}} background:#0089CF" | Defending type
|-
! style="background:#{{normal color}}" | [[File:Battrio Normal type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{fire color}}" | [[File:Battrio Fire type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{water color}}" | [[File:Battrio Water type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{electric color}}" | [[File:Battrio Electric type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{grass color}}" | [[File:Battrio Grass type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{ice color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ice type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{fighting color}}" | [[File:Battrio Fighting type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{poison color}}" | [[File:Battrio Poison type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{ground color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ground type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{flying color}}" | [[File:Battrio Flying type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{psychic color}}" | [[File:Battrio Psychic type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{bug color}}" | [[File:Battrio Bug type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{rock color}}" | [[File:Battrio Rock type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{ghost color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ghost type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{dragon color}}" | [[File:Battrio Dragon type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{dark color}}" | [[File:Battrio Dark type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | [[File:Battrio Steel type.png|30px]]
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! rowspan="17" width="20px" style="background:#ED1D25" | A t t a c k i n g t y p e
! style="background:#{{normal color}}" | [[File:Battrio Normal type.png|30px]]
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -60
|
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{fire color}}" | [[File:Battrio Fire type.png|30px]]
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -40
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +60
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
|
|
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{water color}}" | [[File:Battrio Water type.png|30px]]
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -40
|
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|
|
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{electric color}}" | [[File:Battrio Electric type.png|30px]]
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +60
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|
|
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -60
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
|
|
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|
|
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{grass color}}" | [[File:Battrio Grass type.png|30px]]
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -40
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -40
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{ice color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ice type.png|30px]]
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
|
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{fighting color}}" | [[File:Battrio Fighting type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
|
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +60
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -60
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{poison color}}" | [[File:Battrio Poison type.png|30px]]
|
|
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +60
|
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|
|
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -60
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{ground color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ground type.png|30px]]
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -60
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{flying color}}" | [[File:Battrio Flying type.png|30px]]
|
|
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
|
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|
|
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{psychic color}}" | [[File:Battrio Psychic type.png|30px]]
|
|
|
|
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|
|
|
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -60
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{bug color}}" | [[File:Battrio Bug type.png|30px]]
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +60
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{rock color}}" | [[File:Battrio Rock type.png|30px]]
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -40
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -40
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
|
|
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{ghost color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ghost type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -60
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +30
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +30
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{dragon color}}" | [[File:Battrio Dragon type.png|30px]]
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +35
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -40
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{dark color}}" | [[File:Battrio Dark type.png|30px]]
|
|
|
|
|
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | [[File:Battrio Steel type.png|30px]]
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
|
|
|
|
|
! style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | +40
|
|
|
! style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | -30
|-
| colspan="19" style="{{roundybottom|7px}}; background:#{{white color}};" | These values apply to Battrio 0 only.
|}
{{-}}
===In Battrio V===
{| align="left" style="background: #000000; {{roundy|10px}}"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="17" style="{{roundytr|7px}} background:#0089CF" | Defending type
|-
! style="background:#{{normal color}}" | [[File:Battrio Normal type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{fire color}}" | [[File:Battrio Fire type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{water color}}" | [[File:Battrio Water type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{electric color}}" | [[File:Battrio Electric type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{grass color}}" | [[File:Battrio Grass type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{ice color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ice type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{fighting color}}" | [[File:Battrio Fighting type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{poison color}}" | [[File:Battrio Poison type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{ground color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ground type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{flying color}}" | [[File:Battrio Flying type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{psychic color}}" | [[File:Battrio Psychic type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{bug color}}" | [[File:Battrio Bug type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{rock color}}" | [[File:Battrio Rock type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{ghost color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ghost type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{dragon color}}" | [[File:Battrio Dragon type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{dark color}}" | [[File:Battrio Dark type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | [[File:Battrio Steel type.png|30px]]
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! rowspan="17" width="20px" style="background:#ED1D25" | A t t a c k i n g t y p e
| style="background:#{{normal color}}" | [[File:Battrio Normal type.png|30px]]
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.8×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
| style="background:#{{fire color}}" | [[File:Battrio Fire type.png|30px]]
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.85×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.2×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
| style="background:#{{water color}}" | [[File:Battrio Water type.png|30px]]
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.85×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| 1×
| 1×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
| style="background:#{{electric color}}" | [[File:Battrio Electric type.png|30px]]
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.2×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.8×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| 1×
| 1×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
| style="background:#{{grass color}}" | [[File:Battrio Grass type.png|30px]]
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.85×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.85×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
| style="background:#{{ice color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ice type.png|30px]]
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
| style="background:#{{fighting color}}" | [[File:Battrio Fighting type.png|30px]]
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.2×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.8×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
| style="background:#{{poison color}}" | [[File:Battrio Poison type.png|30px]]
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.2×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.8×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
| style="background:#{{ground color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ground type.png|30px]]
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.8×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
| style="background:#{{flying color}}" | [[File:Battrio Flying type.png|30px]]
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
| style="background:#{{psychic color}}" | [[File:Battrio Psychic type.png|30px]]
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.8×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
| style="background:#{{bug color}}" | [[File:Battrio Bug type.png|30px]]
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.2×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
| style="background:#{{rock color}}" | [[File:Battrio Rock type.png|30px]]
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.85×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.85×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
| style="background:#{{ghost color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ghost type.png|30px]]
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.8×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.1×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
| style="background:#{{dragon color}}" | [[File:Battrio Dragon type.png|30px]]
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.85×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
| style="background:#{{dark color}}" | [[File:Battrio Dark type.png|30px]]
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
| style="background:#{{steel color}}" | [[File:Battrio Steel type.png|30px]]
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F8BFC5; color:#ED1D23" | 1.15×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#C6EAFA; color:#005AAA" | 0.9×
|-
| colspan="19" style="{{roundybottom|7px}}; background:#{{white color}};" | These values apply to Battrio V only.
|}
{{-}}

==Arceus type charts==
With the introduction of {{p|Arceus}} in the ''{{Battrio|Arceus Advent}}'' expansion and its two exclusive types, it has the unique ability to change its type to be the most resistant possible to the attacking move. As such, it has its own type chart.

===In Battrio 0===
{| class="multicol" style="background:transparent; width:50%"
{{Col-2}}
'''Full-Plate type'''
{| align="left" style="background: #000000; {{roundy|10px}}"
|- align="center"
! center" colspan="2" | [[File:Battrio Full-Plate type.png|30px]]
! width="120px" style="{{roundytr|7px}} background:#{{normal color}}" | Arceus' type
|-
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! rowspan="17" width="20px" style="background:#ED1D25" | A t t a c k i n g t y p e
! style="background:#{{normal color}}" | [[File:Battrio Normal type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{ghost color light}}; color:#{{ghost color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Ghost type.png|20px]] -60
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{fire color}}" | [[File:Battrio Fire type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{water color light}}; color:#{{water color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Water type.png|20px]] -40
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{water color}}" | [[File:Battrio Water type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{grass color light}}; color:#{{grass color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Grass type.png|20px]] -40
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{electric color}}" | [[File:Battrio Electric type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{ground color light}}; color:#{{ground color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Ground type.png|20px]] -60
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{grass color}}" | [[File:Battrio Grass type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{bug color light}}; color:#{{bug color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Bug type.png|20px]] -40
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{ice color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ice type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{ice color light}}; color:#{{ice color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Ice type.png|20px]] -30
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{fighting color}}" | [[File:Battrio Fighting type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{ghost color light}}; color:#{{ghost color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Ghost type.png|20px]] -60
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{poison color}}" | [[File:Battrio Poison type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{steel color light}}; color:#{{steel color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Steel type.png|20px]] -60
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{ground color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ground type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{flying color light}}; color:#{{flying color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Flying type.png|20px]] -60
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{flying color}}" | [[File:Battrio Flying type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{electric color light}}; color:#{{electric color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Electric type.png|20px]] -30
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{psychic color}}" | [[File:Battrio Psychic type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{dark color light}}; color:#{{dark color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Dark type.png|20px]] -60
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{bug color}}" | [[File:Battrio Bug type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{poison color light}}; color:#{{poison color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Poison type.png|20px]] -30
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{rock color}}" | [[File:Battrio Rock type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{fighting color light}}; color:#{{fighting color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Fighting type.png|20px]] -40
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{ghost color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ghost type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{normal color light}}; color:#{{normal color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Normal type.png|20px]] -60
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{dragon color}}" | [[File:Battrio Dragon type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{steel color light}}; color:#{{steel color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Steel type.png|20px]] -40
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{dark color}}" | [[File:Battrio Dark type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{fighting color light}}; color:#{{fighting color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Fighting type.png|20px]] -30
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | [[File:Battrio Steel type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{fire color light}}; color:#{{fire color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Fire type.png|20px]] -30
|-
| colspan="3" style="{{roundybottom|7px}}; background:#{{white color}};" | These values apply to Battrio 0 only.
|}
{{Col-2}}
'''Eleven-Plate type'''
{| align="left" style="background: #000000; {{roundy|10px}}"
|- align="center"
! colspan="2" | [[File:Battrio Eleven-Plate type.png|30px]]
! width="120px" style="{{roundytr|7px}} background:#{{normal color}}" | Arceus' type
|-
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! rowspan="17" width="20px" style="background:#ED1D25" | A t t a c k i n g t y p e
! style="background:#{{normal color}}" | [[File:Battrio Normal type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{ghost color light}}; color:#{{ghost color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Ghost type.png|20px]] -60
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{fire color}}" | [[File:Battrio Fire type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{fire color light}}; color:#{{fire color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Fire type.png|20px]] -30
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{water color}}" | [[File:Battrio Water type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{normal color light}}; color:#{{normal color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Normal type.png|20px]] 0
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{electric color}}" | [[File:Battrio Electric type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{normal color light}}; color:#{{normal color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Normal type.png|20px]] 0
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{grass color}}" | [[File:Battrio Grass type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{bug color light}}; color:#{{bug color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Bug type.png|20px]] -40
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{ice color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ice type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{ice color light}}; color:#{{ice color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Ice type.png|20px]] -30
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{fighting color}}" | [[File:Battrio Fighting type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{ghost color light}}; color:#{{ghost color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Ghost type.png|20px]] -60
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{poison color}}" | [[File:Battrio Poison type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{steel color light}}; color:#{{steel color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Steel type.png|20px]] -60
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{ground color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ground type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{flying color light}}; color:#{{flying color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Flying type.png|20px]] -60
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{flying color}}" | [[File:Battrio Flying type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{rock color light}}; color:#{{rock color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Rock type.png|20px]] -30
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{psychic color}}" | [[File:Battrio Psychic type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{dark color light}}; color:#{{dark color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Dark type.png|20px]] -60
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{bug color}}" | [[File:Battrio Bug type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{poison color light}}; color:#{{poison color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Poison type.png|20px]] -30
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{rock color}}" | [[File:Battrio Rock type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{fighting color light}}; color:#{{fighting color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Fighting type.png|20px]] -40
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{ghost color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ghost type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{normal color light}}; color:#{{normal color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Normal type.png|20px]] -60
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{dragon color}}" | [[File:Battrio Dragon type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{steel color light}}; color:#{{steel color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Steel type.png|20px]] -40
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{dark color}}" | [[File:Battrio Dark type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{fighting color light}}; color:#{{fighting color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Fighting type.png|20px]] -30
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | [[File:Battrio Steel type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{fire color light}}; color:#{{fire color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Fire type.png|20px]] -30
|-
| colspan="3" style="{{roundybottom|7px}}; background:#{{white color}};" | These values apply to Battrio 0 only.
|}
|}
{{-}}
===In Battrio V===
{| class="multicol" style="background:transparent; width:50%"
{{Col-2}}
'''Full-Plate type'''
{| align="left" style="background: #000000; {{roundy|10px}}"
|- align="center"
! colspan="2" | [[File:Battrio Full-Plate type.png|30px]]
! width="120px" style="{{roundytr|7px}} background:#{{normal color}}" | Arceus' type
|-
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! rowspan="17" width="20px" style="background:#ED1D25" | A t t a c k i n g t y p e
! style="background:#{{normal color}}" | [[File:Battrio Normal type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{ghost color light}}; color:#{{ghost color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Ghost type.png|20px]] 0.8×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{fire color}}" | [[File:Battrio Fire type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{water color light}}; color:#{{water color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Water type.png|20px]] 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{water color}}" | [[File:Battrio Water type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{grass color light}}; color:#{{grass color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Grass type.png|20px]] 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{electric color}}" | [[File:Battrio Electric type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{ground color light}}; color:#{{ground color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Ground type.png|20px]] 0.8×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{grass color}}" | [[File:Battrio Grass type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{bug color light}}; color:#{{bug color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Bug type.png|20px]] 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{ice color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ice type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{ice color light}}; color:#{{ice color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Ice type.png|20px]] 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{fighting color}}" | [[File:Battrio Fighting type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{ghost color light}}; color:#{{ghost color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Ghost type.png|20px]] 0.8×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{poison color}}" | [[File:Battrio Poison type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{steel color light}}; color:#{{steel color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Steel type.png|20px]] 0.8×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{ground color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ground type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{flying color light}}; color:#{{flying color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Flying type.png|20px]] 0.8×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{flying color}}" | [[File:Battrio Flying type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{electric color light}}; color:#{{electric color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Electric type.png|20px]] 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{psychic color}}" | [[File:Battrio Psychic type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{dark color light}}; color:#{{dark color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Dark type.png|20px]] 0.8×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{bug color}}" | [[File:Battrio Bug type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{poison color light}}; color:#{{poison color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Poison type.png|20px]] 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{rock color}}" | [[File:Battrio Rock type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{fighting color light}}; color:#{{fighting color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Fighting type.png|20px]] 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{ghost color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ghost type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{normal color light}}; color:#{{normal color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Normal type.png|20px]] 0.8×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{dragon color}}" | [[File:Battrio Dragon type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{steel color light}}; color:#{{steel color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Steel type.png|20px]] 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{dark color}}" | [[File:Battrio Dark type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{fighting color light}}; color:#{{fighting color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Fighting type.png|20px]] 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | [[File:Battrio Steel type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{fire color light}}; color:#{{fire color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Fire type.png|20px]] 0.9×
|-
| colspan="3" style="{{roundybottom|7px}}; background:#{{white color}};" | These values apply to Battrio V only.
|}
{{Col-2}}
'''Eleven-Plate type'''
{| align="left" style="background: #000000; {{roundy|10px}}"
|- align="center"
! colspan="2" | [[File:Battrio Eleven-Plate type.png|30px]]
! width="120px" style="{{roundytr|7px}} background:#{{normal color}}" | Arceus' type
|-
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! rowspan="17" width="20px" style="background:#ED1D25" | A t t a c k i n g t y p e
! style="background:#{{normal color}}" | [[File:Battrio Normal type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{ghost color light}}; color:#{{ghost color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Ghost type.png|20px]] 0.8×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{fire color}}" | [[File:Battrio Fire type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{fire color light}}; color:#{{fire color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Fire type.png|20px]] 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{water color}}" | [[File:Battrio Water type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{normal color light}}; color:#{{normal color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Normal type.png|20px]] 1×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{electric color}}" | [[File:Battrio Electric type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{normal color light}}; color:#{{normal color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Normal type.png|20px]] 1×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{grass color}}" | [[File:Battrio Grass type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{bug color light}}; color:#{{bug color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Bug type.png|20px]] 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{ice color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ice type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{ice color light}}; color:#{{ice color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Ice type.png|20px]] 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{fighting color}}" | [[File:Battrio Fighting type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{ghost color light}}; color:#{{ghost color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Ghost type.png|20px]] 0.8×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{poison color}}" | [[File:Battrio Poison type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{steel color light}}; color:#{{steel color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Steel type.png|20px]] 0.8×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{ground color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ground type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{flying color light}}; color:#{{flying color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Flying type.png|20px]] 0.8×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{flying color}}" | [[File:Battrio Flying type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{rock color light}}; color:#{{rock color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Rock type.png|20px]] 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{psychic color}}" | [[File:Battrio Psychic type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{dark color light}}; color:#{{dark color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Dark type.png|20px]] 0.8×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{bug color}}" | [[File:Battrio Bug type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{poison color light}}; color:#{{poison color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Poison type.png|20px]] 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{rock color}}" | [[File:Battrio Rock type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{fighting color light}}; color:#{{fighting color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Fighting type.png|20px]] 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{ghost color}}" | [[File:Battrio Ghost type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{normal color light}}; color:#{{normal color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Normal type.png|20px]] 0.8×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{dragon color}}" | [[File:Battrio Dragon type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{steel color light}}; color:#{{steel color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Steel type.png|20px]] 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{dark color}}" | [[File:Battrio Dark type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{fighting color light}}; color:#{{fighting color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Fighting type.png|20px]] 0.9×
|- align="center" style="background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | [[File:Battrio Steel type.png|30px]]
! style="background:#{{fire color light}}; color:#{{fire color dark}}" | [[File:Battrio Fire type.png|20px]] 0.9×
|-
| colspan="3" style="{{roundybottom|7px}}; background:#{{white color}};" | These values apply to Battrio V only.
|}
|}
{{-}}

==Type Levels==
Players with Memory Keys can take advantage of Type Levels to gain bonuses by using Pokémon of a particular type continually in battle. Using a Grass-type Pokémon in battle for example will gain experience, called Type Points, for the Grass type; using three Grass-type Pokémon at once in battle will gain more experience than one. Once a certain number of Type Points have been earned, that type will level up and provide a bonus when a Pokémon of that type is included in the team.

Prior to Battrio V, Type Levels provided an attack bonus during the Type Battle, providing a maximum of +20 attack. In Battrio V this was changed to providing a HP bonus for the team, as Pokémon as of the upgrade were able to over-level and gain attack/defense/speed bonuses as highlighted on the yellow sections on the reverse of pucks. Additional Type Points for a particular type or all types can be bought in the form of {{Battrio|items}} from the {{tt|Shop|Battrio S to Battrio 0}} or {{tt|Gacha Machine|Battrio V}}.

The tables below display the Type Level and bonuses. The maximum type level was 10 prior to Battrio V, however, this was expanded to 100 by the time of the last expansion.

{| class="multicol" style="background:transparent; width:80%"
{{Col-2}}
===Prior to Battrio V===
{| align="left" width="250px" style="background: #{{white color dark}}; {{roundy|10px}}"
|-
! align="center" width="33%" style="background: #{{white color}}; {{roundytl|7px}}" | Type Level
! align="center" width="33%" style="background: #{{white color}}" | Experience to next level
! align="center" width="33%" style="background: #{{white color}}; {{roundytr|7px}}" | Attack bonus
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 0
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 4
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 0
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 1
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 10
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +2
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 2
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 25
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +4
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 3
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 29
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +6
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 4
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 61
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +8
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 5
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 67
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +10
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 6
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 139
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +12
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 7
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 141
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +14
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 8
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 240
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +16
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 9
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 254
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +18
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}; {{roundybl|7px}}" | 10
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | —
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}; {{roundybr|7px}}" | +20
|}
{{Col-2}}
===In Battrio V===
{| align="left" width="160px" style="background: #{{white color dark}}; {{roundy|10px}}"
|-
! align="center" width="50%" style="background: #{{white color}}; {{roundytl|7px}}" | Type Level
! align="center" width="50%" style="background: #{{white color}}; {{roundytr|7px}}" | HP bonus
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 1
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +2
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 2
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +4
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 3
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +6
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 4
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +8
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 5
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +10
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 6
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +12
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 7
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +14
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 8
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +16
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 9
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +18
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 10
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +20
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 11
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +22
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 20
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +24
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 25
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +26
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 30
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +30
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 40
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +35
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 50
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +40
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 60
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +45
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 70
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +50
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 80
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +55
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | 90
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}" | +60
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}; {{roundybl|7px}}" | 100
| align="center" style="background: #{{white color light}}; {{roundybr|7px}}" | +65
|}
|}
{{-}}
{{Project Battrio notice}}

[[Category:Battrio]]

Holo Caster

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[[File:XY Trevor.png|120px|thumb|right|[[Trevor]] using a Holo Caster]]
{{Search| item in [[Pokémon X and Y]]|the segment at the end of Japanese episodes of the [[XY series]]|Professor Oak's lecture}}
The '''Holo Caster''' (Japanese: '''ホロキャスター''' ''Holo Caster'') is a [[key item]] in [[Generation VI]], introduced in [[Pokémon X and Y]].

==In the games==
===In Pokémon X and Y===
The Holo Caster is a device created by [[Lysandre Labs]] and allows people to communicate with each other through holograms.

The player automatically starts their game with a Holo Caster. At various points in the game's plot, the player will receive messages from their friends and allies to advance the storyline. It is revealed later in the storyline that [[Team Flare]] spied on messages sent by the Holo Caster, although [[Sina]] and [[Dexio]] destroy the machine which recorded all of the messages shortly after Team Flare is defeated in [[Geosenge Town]].

By using SpotPass, the Holo Caster can be used to receive special news bulletins about events, tournaments, and receive special distributions from participating stores and event locations. With StreetPass, the player can collect reports on various other players as they pass by them. These are presented in a similar way to a news report, with the reporter being [[Malva]].

In the Looker Events, the Holo Caster is used a lot by [[Emma]], Malva, and [[Looker]] himself.

In any mode, the 3DS's internal gyroscope can be used to move the background behind the character on-screen.

===Flavor text===
{{movedesc|key items}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|XY}}|A device that allows users to receive and view hologram clips at any time. It is also used to chat with others.}}
|}
|}

==In the anime==
[[File:Holo Caster anime.png|190px|thumb|A Holo Caster in the anime]]
A Holo Caster was first seen in ''[[SS029|Mega Evolution I]]'' under the ownership of {{kal|Alan}}.



==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{x color}}|bordercolor={{y color}}
|de=Holo-Log
|es=Holomisor
|fr=Holokit
|it=Holovox
|ko=홀로캐시터 ''Holo Caster''
}}
{{-}}
{{Project ItemDex notice}}

[[Category:Items]]
[[Category:Key items]]

[[de:Holo-Log]]
[[es:Holomisor]]
[[fr:Holokit]]
[[it:Holovox]]
[[ja:ホロキャスター]]
[[zh:全息轉播器（道具）]]

Gardevoir (EX Emerald 4)

2014-05-25T14:52:25Z

Derpyderpy:

{{PokémoncardInfobox |
cardname=Gardevoir |
jname=サーナイト |
jtrans=Sirknight |
image=GardevoirEXEmerald4.jpg |
caption=Illus. [[Kagemaru Himeno]] |
species=Gardevoir |
evostage=Stage 2 |
evoicon=281 |
evospecies=Kirlia |
evoname=Kirlia |
type=Psychic |
hp=100 |
weakness=Psychic |
retreatcost=2 |
}}
{{PokémoncardInfobox/Expansion|type=Psychic|expansion={{TCG|EX Emerald}}|rarity={{rar|Rare Holo}}|cardno=4/106|jpexpansion={{TCG|PCG-P Promotional cards}}|jpcardno=070/PCG-P}}
{{PokémoncardInfobox/Footer|type=Psychic|species=Gardevoir}}

'''Gardevoir''' (Japanese: '''サーナイト''' ''Sirknight'') is a {{ct|Psychic}} {{TCG|Holofoil}} Stage 2 Pokémon card. It is part of the {{TCG|EX Emerald}} expansion.

==Card text==
{{TCGPower |
type=Psychic |
position=Top |
powertype=Poké-POWER |
name=Heal Dance |
jname=ヒーリングダンス |
jtrans=Healing Dance |
effect=Once during your turn ''(before your attack)'', you may remove 2 damage counters from 1 of your Pokémon. You can't use more than 1 Heal Dance Poké-Power each turn. This power can't be used if {{tt|Gardevoir|this Pokémon}} is affected by a {{TCG|Special Condition}}. |
}}
{{TCGAttack |
type=Psychic |
position=Middle |
cost={{e|Psychic}}{{e|Colorless}} |
name=Psypunch |
jname=サイコパンチ |
jtrans=Psycho Punch |
damage=30 |
effect= |
}}
{{TCGAttack |
type=Psychic |
position=Bottom |
cost={{e|Psychic}}{{e|Colorless}}{{e|Colorless}}{{e|Colorless}} |
name=Mind Shock |
jname=マインドショック |
jtrans=Mind Shock |
damage=60 |
effect=This attack's damage isn't affected by Weakness or Resistance. |
}}

==Release information==
In Japan, this card was released for Meiji Chocolate's promotional campaign in June 2005.

==Trivia==
===Origin===

{{Project TCG notice}}

[[Category:EX Emerald cards]]
[[Category:PCG-P Promotional cards]]
[[Category:Illus. by Kagemaru Himeno]]
[[Category:Holographic cards]]

[[ja:サーナイト (PCG-P)]]

Trapinch δ (EX Dragon Frontiers 69)

2014-05-25T14:48:59Z

Derpyderpy:

{{PokémoncardInfobox |
cardname=Trapinch |
jname=ナックラー δ |
jtrans=Nuckrar δ |
image=TrapinchEXDragonFrontiers69.jpg |
caption=Illus. [[Yukiko Baba]] |
species=Trapinch |
evostage=Basic |
type=Psychic |
level=δ |
hp=40 |
weakness=Grass |
retreatcost=1 |
}}
{{PokémoncardInfobox/Expansion|type=Psychic|expansion={{TCG|EX Dragon Frontiers}}|rarity={{rar|Common}}|cardno=69/101|jpexpansion={{TCG|Offense and Defense of the Furthest Ends}}|jprarity={{rar|Common}}|jpcardno=035/068}}
{{PokémoncardInfobox/Footer|type=Psychic|species=Trapinch}}

'''Trapinch δ''' (Japanese: '''ナックラー δ''' ''Nuckrar δ'') is a {{ct|Psychic}} Basic Pokémon card. It is part of the {{TCG|EX Dragon Frontiers}} expansion. It is a {{TCG|Delta Species}} card.

==Card text==
{{TCGAttack |
type=Psychic |
cost={{e|Psychic}} |
name=Quick Bind |
jname=クイックバインド |
jtrans=Quick Bind |
damage= |
effect=Choose 1 of your opponent's Pokémon. This attack does 10 damage to that Pokémon. This attack's damage isn't affected by Weakness, Resistance, Poké-Powers, Poké-Bodies, or any other effects on that Pokémon. |
}}

==Trivia==
===Origin===

{{Project TCG notice}}

[[Category:EX Dragon Frontiers cards]]
[[Category:Offense and Defense of the Furthest Ends cards]]
[[Category:Illus. by Yukiko Baba]]

[[de:Knacklion δ (EX Dragon Frontiers 69)]]
[[fr:Kraknoix δ (EX Île des Dragons 69)]]
[[ja:ナックラーδ-デルタ種 (PCG9-B)]]