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==Normal Starters==
Should Pikachu be considered a 'normal' starter? I mean, it isn't part of the Fire/Water/Grass triangle, and it can also be captured in the wild in many of the other games, something that no other starters have right now. It's also the starter only in one game (although, so have Colosseum Starters, XD Starter, and Ranger Starter). --[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 12:01, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
:Well, why not? The fact it is not part of the triangle does not disqualify him as a starter Pokémon. If we had a Dark/Fighting/Psych triangle, wouldn't still they be starters? Also, the Fire/Grass/Water triangle is already broken is some cases, like the 4th generation starters having second types after they evolve. In any case, he is undoubtedly a starter in the ranks of Squirtle and Charmander. He is given out by a professor (and our very original professor Oak in his case), is given in one of the "main" games of the series, and is a basic Pokémon. --[[User:Andrelvis|Andrelvis]] 15:53, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
::Well, don't forget that also, pretty much every starter gets a second type through evolution. Only ones who don't are Squirtle, Chikorita, Cyndaquil, Totodile, and Treecko. Hell, Bulbasaur has two types in its basic form.
::And I think the division's more on the games that are defined as the main RPG series vs the side games. After all, Pichu makes Pikachu a stage 1 now, in all technicalities. But, of course, Yellow is just as much a main game as Red, Blue, and Green are, unlike Colosseum and XD compared to Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald, even though all of them are RPGs. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 01:02, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Exactly. And that's why we have the "special starters" section. They are starters, but not as much so as the "main game" ones. --[[User:Andrelvis|Andrelvis]] 17:37, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
::::But they're not special per se. They're just... not mainstream. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 17:56, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::A little off-topic, but I heard a rumor that Game Freak was considering a Fighting/Psychic/Dark trio for the Gen IV starters, but they decided to switch back to the usual Grass/Fire/Water trio. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:15, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

== To add to Trivia ==

I noticed this. Of the Grass starters up to and including Generation IV, all of the final forms have eight-letter English names. Venusaur, Meganium, Sceptile, and Torterra.
:Hmmm. Well, it's interesting, but the trivia section's already huge! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 09:22, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== To Remove from Trivia ==
"Usually upon evolution, the starter Pokémon gain another type. However, Blastoise, the three Johto starters' final forms (Meganium, Typhlosion, and Feraligatr), and Sceptile do not have a second type." This quote is not very accurate. The trivia itself lists 5 out of the 12 final evolutions of the main series' starters that don't gain a new type (technically it should be 6 of 13 because of [[Pikachu]]; which while it can't evolve in Yellow still does in every other version). 5 out of 12 is about 42%; which means that "usually" is used to define an occurance rate barely over 50% and is like saying Pokemon split equally into both [[gender|genders]] are "usually" one over the other. Additionally, only 6 of the 13 (about 46%) main series staters actually gain a new type out of evolution, as [[Bulbasaur]] starts with the {{type|Poison}}. I'm not sure if complete removal of this trivia is called for, but it definitely needs to be reworded. --[[User:ZellMurasame|ZellMurasame]] 05:15, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
:That's an overinspective technicality... but sure, it should be reworded if that's statistically the case. Just make sure not to link species with square brackets, man. The {{template|p}} template is there for use, especially with the starters and their families... all of which have appeared owned by a main anime character... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 08:57, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

==Pikachu==

Just saying buy uh.. You guys put every Pokemon's evolutions in the normal games. But not Pikachu's in Pokemon Yellow?
:Pikachu can't evolve in Yellow. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 04:16, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== Colosseum elemental starters ==

Even though you can get the remaining two at the end of the game, let's not forget that Bayleef, Quilava, and Croconaw are somewhat "starter" Pokémon in Pokémon Colosseum, since you need to snag one of them at the beginning of the adventure. Maybe they're like Eevee's evolutionary stones or shards in that their availability isn't immediate... However, one of the things that make them non-traditional starters is that the game doesn't explicitly ask you "you want this Pokémon, or this one, or this one?". --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 03:07, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

You just have to beat Rosso, Verde, or Bluno. You don't have to snag their Shadow Pokémon. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] ''I am not removing this lengthy addition to my signature until all moves have been updated to Platinum standard.'' 00:11, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

== Obediance ==

I seem to recall that in the main series, a Starter Pokémon will always obey even if its level surpasses the mark of a required Gym Badge. Has anyone else experienced this? If so, should it be added to the article somewhere? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:37, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

All Pokémon caught by the trainer will, they wont obey if they have been received in a trade.[[User:David aipom|Davidaipom]] 19:39, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

:The page on [[Badge]]s does not make that distinction. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:48, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::well that's how it works --lord mada 19:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

:::So what you're saying is that if a player was able to start a new game and somehow "catch" a Level 70 Pokémon right off the bat, it will obey? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::::yeah I'm pretty sure --lord mada 19:55, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

:::::Interesting... Well then, disregard. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yes but dont forget that's very unlikely in the main series. [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
:::::::Start a new game, trade away a random caught Pokémon, get it back after a while at level 70 and it likely will obey. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:54, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Unlikely, but possible. Especially with an Action Replay. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:53, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia overload? ==

Don't get me wrong, I always love a lot of additions to the trivia section, but even now it seems like it's way too much. We might want to cut back on some more esoteric things, and group the move pattern observations together. [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 17:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe it would be possible to encorporate some of the more anime-exclusive trivia into the anime section and likewise for game-exclusive, and only put overall trivia at the bottom. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:45, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
::Something I noticed on the Trivia section is that one of the links is broken; specifically, the cross-Wiki link about Charmander being based of the mythical Salamander. --[[User:Mikekearn|Mike]] | [[Special:Contributions/Mikekearn|Contrib]] 03:00, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:::This was a stupid error on my part; I fixed it just now. I had fixed the link before, but I put wp:Salamander (legendary creature) rather than wp|Salamander (legendary creature). This caused a broken link. It was very unprofessional of me, and I greatly apologize for the error. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 03:18, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

==No editing?==
Why cant I edit this? I found an error... --'''[[User:Mooites|Mooites]]''' [[User talk:Mooites|Talk to me, baby!]] 18:47, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
:So did I. I don't know if it's the same as yours, but its at the end of the page. It's missing a period. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:50, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
::In the middle of something, didn't want an edit conflict. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:54, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

==Gen IV type-trumping==
I just noticed something about the Sinnoh starters' final forms. Each of them gains a a type advantage over the starter it is weak to in some way:
*Torterra gains the Ground-type, which is super-effective against Infernape.
*Infernape gains the Fighting-type, which is super-effective against Empoleon's Steel-type.
*Empoleon gains the Steel-type, which gives it a resistance to Torterra's Grass-type (although it does give a weakness to Torterra's Ground-type (maybe for balance issues); however, being a Water-type, Empoleon can learn Ice-type attacks to deal super-effective damage against both of Torterra's types).
[[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:26, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:However, the steel type also renders Empoleon without a resistance to either of Infernape's types, thus actually making it WEAK to Infernape (at least to it's fighting type, and the steel offbalances the water resistance to fire). [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 11:40, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::Including Empoleon's ability to learn Ice moves, all the starters have moves which are super effective against the other two starters. As in, the examples listed above and the normal type advantage circle (except Empoleon is weak to Ground not Grass)So, in a way, it means that none of them are superior to the others. [[User:Gastly's Mama|Gastly's Mama]]

==Gary's Starter==
Is the statement "it caused many to hearken back to Pokémon Yellow, where the player starts with Pikachu, like Ash, and the rival starts with Eevee" the wrong way round because Pokemon Yellow was based on the anime and because Gary's true starter had not been revealed at the time, the makers made Eevee his starter, as the game required him to have a confirmed one? Therefore rather than people thinking this because that was his starter in Yellow, is it not much more likely that this was his starter in Yellow because people thought it was starter already? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Gastlys mama}} ([[User talk:Gastlys mama|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Gastlys mama|contribs]]) ''

== Platinum ==

It's different in Platinum. There are no Starly. He just give them out for some reason to the two and they battle each other. Someone who knows the reason should place it. *[[User:Tc26|Tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 07:02, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe it's to test out their newly received pokémon? that seems the most logical to me... [[User:Mijzelffan|Mijzelffan]] 15:40, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::I think the question is why did Rowan give them to the character and Pearl. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 15:45, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, that can wait until March... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:25, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Its almost time for Platinum to come out in America, better get ready to fill that in!--[[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X, PEACE TO]][[User:Dragonbeastx|THE DRAGONS AND]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|THE BEASTS]] 07:18, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

== Trivia Addition ==

I felt it would be interesting to note that all of the starter's first evolutions have the same base stat total of 405, whereas the base and final forms vary greatly.
:Every middle evolution, you mean? Definitely something to say. But the final forms' variance needn't be mentioned; it's not like they're Butterfree vs Arceus in terms of BST difference. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:50, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

== Second Trivia Addition ==

Wouldn't it be a good idea to post the fact that in the anime, the protagonist's starter Pokémon actually has a type advantage over the rival's starter Pokémon other than the other way around? (Ash obviously had Pikachu whereas Gary had Squirtle) Seems relevant --[[User:Blackstone Dresden|Blackstone Dresden]] 03:47, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
:No. Basically what they did was say Gary had a MYSTERY OMGEEZ and then an EEVEE OMGEEZ YELOW and then BLASTOISE HAHA. And by that third point, in Johto, Ash's Charizard counted almost as much as Pikachu anyway, especially considering the battle the two had using those. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:52, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

== Kanto starters in HGSS? ==

I just got all 16 badges, Oak gives me a HM08, but no starter. Do i have to do something beforehand? -->'''[[User:223david|223]][[User_talk:223david|david]]''' 01:19, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
:This sounds kind of forum-y to me, but you might have to do the Copycat event first - I read somewhere that you have to do that in order to get a Hoenn starter from Steven, at least. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 01:23, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
::All events done ''except for red''. do i have to beat him firsT? -->'''[[User:223david|223]][[User_talk:223david|david]]''' 01:26, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Yes. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 01:27, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

== The mystical, amazing disappearing starter Pokemon! ==

I could have sworn I saw this discussed somewhere before, but for the life of me I can't find it now. Oh well.

Anyway, at some point in HGSS (not sure exactly when) the third starter Pokemon which wasn't chosen by the PC or the rival mysteriously vanishes from its place in Elm's lab. (The game text when the... whatever that machine is... is examined is something along the lines of, "Hey! The third Pokeball is gone! Was it given to someone?" though I can't be bothered to switch games in my DS to check for sure.) I figure that this is notable enough to go into the article, and I'd put it in there myself, but I quite honestly don't know if its disappearance is ever explained, and I figure that if it ''were'' explained that should go in the article too.

Thoughts?/Anyone know what in the world happened to it? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 00:29, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
:If you're looking for a general discussion on this, head to the forums. Pedia-wise, the only thing we can really do is say that it vanishes and we don't know where to. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 00:35, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
::Nah, wasn't looking for a general discussion. I brought it up for the purpose of adding it into the article... And I haven't beaten the game yet, so I don't know if its disappearance is left unexplained, and that's why I didn't want to say that in the article (maybe it is explained, and I just haven't gotten that far yet!). I thought maybe someone else would have the answer so that it could be added to the article, definitively stating whether its disappearance was explained or not. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 00:40, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

== Can someone please put these up? ==

They're missing from the page. Pokabu's picture is the only one on there. --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 18:42, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Was this ever confirmed? ==

On the article it said "In Pokémon Black and White, the regional professor, yet unnamed, will offer the player a choice of the Grass-type Tsutarja, the Fire-type Pokabu, or the Water-type Mijumaru. " It's very likely this is true, but this was never confirmed so should we edit it?--[[User:Eastern|Eastern]] 18:07, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:It's been proven. There's even an official site of the game that confirms this. - [[User:050294|050294]] 23:40, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::I think what he means is, does the professor actually give it to the player, or is there a situation similar to DPPt, where they decide to take them and are allowed to keep them later, et cetera.—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 09:24, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that's what I mean.--[[User:Eastern|Eastern]] 15:26, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

== Ranger "starters"? ==

I just now noticed that the Ranger partner Pokemon weren't included in the page (but I remember them being on there before). But can they be considered starter Pokemon? They probably weren't the first Pokemon the player captured (except in the first ranger game), but they are the first Pokemon they get to keep for themselves. So can they still be considered starters?

== Cheren & Bel Starters ==

Example: I choose Pokabu, Cheren will Choose Mijumaru and Belle will chose Tsutarja. But this is

not confirmmed---[[User:Franztrovao]] July 24, 2010 - 18:10 (UTC)

:It '''''IS''''' confirmed ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:15, 24 July 2010 (UTC))

== Trivia ==

Since I want no part in the edit war, I'm going to explain the trivia piece here:

<code>
As of [[Generation IV]], every '''starter-type''' in the main series (with the exception of {{p|Pikachu}}) has have one Pokémon in its final-stage of evolution to have a double weakness; {{p|Charizard}} is doubly weak to {{type|Rock}}, {{p|Swampert}} is doubly weak to {{type|Grass}} and {{p|Torterra}} is doubly weak to {{type|Ice}}.</code>

It doesn't say by generation. It says by starter ''type''. That means Fire, Water, and Grass.
Charizard, Torterra, and Swampert are members of these respective types and have double weaknesses. The trivia, meaning-wise, is fine. (Unless one were to count Bulbasaur's Poison typing...)

So yeah, if you're going to remove it, remove it for a different reason plz and thanks.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 23:33, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

== Should Mystery Dungeon initial Pokémon be considered starters? ==

I've looked through Mystery Dungeon: Blue's manual, Bulbapedia's pages on all three sets of games, and the official Explorers of Sky webpage and have seen no mention of the initial Pokémon from MD as "starters", just "Hero Pokémon" (for the player) and "Partner Pokémon" (for the partner). They seem to lack the basic criteria for being starters (the initial Pokémon owned by a ''trainer''), even more so than the Ranger's [[Partner Pokémon]] which were already deemed not to be starters. Now I'll admit I never even played through Blue fully (and never played the others), so there may be something in-game, but I think we should separate them into their own ''Hero and Partner Pokémon'' page or something, as they don't seem to belong here. '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 02:48, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
:Completely agree. I've fixed this page, but the navigation template needs to be modified still. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:34, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

== Pokémon Yellow Evolution ==

The article says that the rival's {{p|Eevee}} evolves into {{p|Jolteon}}, {{p|Flareon}} or {{p|Vaporeon}} depending on the outcomes of battles between the player and the rival. Specifically, which battles are important, and how do the results affect the evolution? It seems like this would be a useful thing to add to the article. I believe that if the player loses the first battle in Pallet Town, the {{p|Eevee}} will evolve into a {{p|Vaporeon}}, but this should probably be double-checked. [[User:Tk3141|Tk3141]] 20:52, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Ive heard that if you win both battles, lose both battles, or lose one and win one, the outcome will be different. But im not that far in the game so I don't know the specific outcomes. --[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 21:07, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
:It's explained in more detail [[Blue (game)/Yellow|here]]. Basically the results of the first two possible battles are summed. Two wins = Jolteon. One win and one loss/skip = Flareon. Two losses/One loss one skip = Vaporeon. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:54, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

== Lyra/Khoury ==

Is it confirmed that Lyra and Khoury received their starters from Professor Elm or is it speculation? [[User:Duke R|'''|) u |( e''']] [[User talk:Duke R|'''®''']] 16:06, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

== Mystery Dungeon and Ranger starters ==

I think we need to move the starters of Mystery Dungeon to Player character, because thats basically what they are, people you can play as. Also, the Ranger Pokemon should be removed because we already have the Partner Pokemon page, which contains the same information. [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] ([[User talk:Iml908|talk]]) 20:37, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
:I agree with both. [[User:Duke R|'''|) u |( e''']] [[User talk:Duke R|'''®''']] 21:24, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
::I think that they should still be linked with {{template|main}}. Also, Rumble is in the same situation as PMD. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:10, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

== New Trivia (yeah, I know it's a little big already) ==

(First time, forgive me if I screw this up horribly)

Since Pikachu knows Thundershock, Yellow is the only main series game in which the player's starter pokemon begins play with a STAB move. Incidentally, the Rival's starter also has a STAB move, as Eevee knows tackle and is of the normal-type.

There's probably a better way of wording this. but I thought it was neat.
22:26, 20 November 2012 (UTC)HH

== Definition of starter Pokémon ==

I've always thought of starter Pokémon as meaning the sets of three Pokémon that are given by the professor, not merely a Trainer's first Pokémon. I don't mind including Pikachu and Eevee, ''that'' much (although I'm still uncertain about them), adding Marill and Ralts, and calling things like [[Growlie]] "starter Pokémon" just seems wrong to me. If people really want to list Trainer's first Pokémon, then I think that page should be at {{redlink|first Pokémon}}; however, IMO starter Pokémon should refer only to Bulbasaur, Charmander, Bulbasaur, Chikorita, Cyndaquil, Totodile, Treecko, Torchic, Mudkip, Turtwig, Chimchar, Piplup, Snivy, Tepig, Oshawott, and maybe Pikachu and Eevee if you really want. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:42, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
:Personally, I feel it's the Pokémon someone ''starts'' with. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 08:54, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with Jo, even though the ones listed by SnorlaxMonster are treated completely different from the other "first Pokémon" from other media. Since this page is huge, maybe splitting into "Starter Pokémon (main series)", "Starter Pokémon (spin-off)", "Starter Pokémon (anime)" and "Starter Pokémon (Adventures)" could be taken into account but is not the best option. [[User:Duke R|'''|) u |( e''']] [[User talk:Duke R|'''®''']] 10:50, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
:::Splitting like that completely ignores the point. The idea is that the Pokémon I listed are a group of Pokémon, while this page just lists the first Pokémon of a bunch of Trainers. If we want to redefine starter Pokémon as "the first Pokémon a Trainer owns" rather than the traditional "the three Pokémon that Trainers can choose from to start their journey" and give the traditional grouping their own name, then while I wouldn't prefer it, it would be better than what we have now. What I'm saying is that we have a distinct group of Pokémon that the fandom have always called "starter Pokémon", and this page seems to have merged that group with everyone's first Pokémon. So regardless of what you want to call "starter Pokémon", the traditional starter Pokémon need a separate page from people's first Pokémon. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:14, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
::::For what it's worth, I would define the starter pokemon as the sets of three plus Pikachu and Eevee. We categorize pokemon beyond their obvious classification by their secondary characteristics. Legendary Pokemon, other than those explicitly called out as such, are typically unique pokemon within the games that may or may not have a defining role in the story- even beginning trainers have a pretty good idea what you're talking about when you say "legendary". Pseudo-Legendaries bear some explanation, but fall within obviously recognizable parameters- 600 base stats, typically a double weakness to something, general badassedness, etc. The "starters" of the main series of games are typically in line in terms of stats and evolutions without significant variation- It would not surprise me if next generation we had to call out Charizard and Typhlosion as the exceptions to the "Fire/Fighting Rule". Spinoff series games should at best get their own page and at worst be merely mentioned on their own page. "Games" that are effectively pokedexes shouldn't be listed at all outside the article affirming their existence, as there is no meaningful way to interact with them. Eevee and Pikachu get to be the exceptions because they ''are'' the exceptions- the only main series game not to play by their own rules. You might not even list Eevee, as it's not technically an option for the trainer- It's not a "starter" pokemon, it's a "rival" pokemon.[[User:TheHateHat|TheHateHat]] ([[User talk:TheHateHat|talk]]) 04:36, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::I going to say that there needs to be a distinction between "starter" and "first". For example, in the TCG a "starter set" is a set intended for people just starting to learn the TCG. However, it does not have to be their first TCG set, and their first TCG set is not necessarily a "starter set". A "starter Pokémon" is a Pokémon given to Trainers when they begin their journey to get them started. Therefore, instances like Wally's Ralts are not starter Pokémon; it is his first Pokémon, and if people want that to have a page that's fine, but they shouldn't be here. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:33, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
::::::I second that. The eighteen starter Pokémon from main series games must have an article of their own, they are a group of distinct Pokémon, always treated specially in every medium of the Pokémon franchise. [[User:Duke R|'''|) u |( e''']] [[User talk:Duke R|'''®''']] 04:27, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

== Eevee in Yellow ==

It seems strange to me that Eevee should be included as a starter Pokemon in Yellow on the bit at the bottom of pages about specific starter Pokemon. (Sorry don't know the correct technical term.) The player cannot start with Eevee. If the starter Pokemon of NPCs qualify for this definition of starter Pokemon then surely every known starter Pokemon for NPCs should be added to both of these sections in order to be logically consistent? If it is just because Blue is the rival of this game that his starter is notable why aren't the starters of Wally and Ethan/Lyra as NPCs? I understand their inclusion in the article but I don't understand how Blue's Eevee is any more notable than the starters of those two trainers, particularly not to the degree that it gets a mention at the bottom of the page when the others don't. [[User:Gastly's Mama|Gastly's Mama]] ([[User talk:Gastly's Mama|talk]]) 17:55, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
:Eevee was supposed to be player's starter, but Blue snatched it. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 18:46, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
::But it is still not an option for the player to get it, which is more the point I feel. It is still not an option to start with. No matter what the storyline claims, the player was never "supposed" to get Eevee. Also, I'm not even sure the storyline DOES claim that.[[User:Gastly's Mama|Gastly's Mama]] ([[User talk:Gastly's Mama|talk]]) 14:07, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
:::Any Pokémon given by the Professor is a starter Pokémon, imo.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:16, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

== Fire Starter Trivia ==

Should it be added that there's a trend that all of the fire starters are all members of the Chinese Zodiac? There's been dragon (the Charmander line), rat (Cyndaquil being the fire '''mouse''' pokemon), rooster (the Torchic line), monkey (the Chimchar line), pig (the Tepig line), and just recently, dog (Fennekin being a fox). --[[User:GodzillaMaster|GodzillaMaster]] ([[User talk:GodzillaMaster|talk]]) 20:12, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
:I say this is more opinion than fact. Yes, Cyndaquil is the Fire Mouse Pokémon but it isn't based on a mouse (or a rat). Fennekin, while based of a species of canines, isn't a dog. Though I agree with the others. So you could say I'm neutral/indifferent on this trivia.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:31, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
:Yes, I know that Cyndaquil isn't based on an actual mouse, but the species name still counts and fox should be close enough to dog to count. --[[User:GodzillaMaster|GodzillaMaster]] ([[User talk:GodzillaMaster|talk]]) 03:30, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

== Shininess ==

Is it possible that received starter in main series will be shiny?
[[User:SFtheGreat|SFtheGreat]] ([[User talk:SFtheGreat|talk]]) 19:53, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
: Yes, it's the same probability as if you were to catch them in the wild (approximately 1/8192). [[User:ChiefbozX|ChiefbozX]] ([[User talk:ChiefbozX|talk]]) 20:44, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

== Kanto Starters for X and Y ==

"Soon afterwards, Professor Sycamore will give the player a choice between one of the classic Kanto starter Pokémon, whom, upon reaching their final stages, will have access to Mega Evolved forms, given the prequisite Mega Stone."

This is more speculation than factual. We do not meet Professor Sycamore until Lumoise City. This was stated in the preview clips when he was released as well as stated on the main web site. Lumoise City is after the first Gym so the player has a good bit of play time before they ever meet Professor Sycamore in Lumoise. We also have not been given any information as to whether or not the Kanto Starters are Post Game hand outs like all other Non-Regional Starters are like in Pokemon Emerald and forward. Should probably wait for more information before saying we get two starters in the game since this has the makings of being post-game hand outs like they always end up. [[User:XanderO|XanderO]] ([[User talk:XanderO|talk]]) 14:08, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
:While I do believe we should wait till we have more information on this, I thought we had more reason to believe that the Kanto starters weren't post-game hand outs. First of all, I don't believe they revealed post-game starters before during pre-release. And second, I believe in the Pokémon Direct, the man asked Masuda if there was going to be anything different about this game. Masuda then answered by talking about Sycamore giving out one of the Kanto starters. If it was post-game, that wouldn't be different from previous games at all. They even showed that picture with the three Kalos starters and the three Kanto starters. I think that the implication is that we're supposed to have 2 starters early on this time around. [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] ([[User talk:Pocketfanmk|talk]]) 17:32, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

::If you actually watched the Pokémon Direct, you would have heard that you get both starters near the beginning of the game. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 17:44, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
::::''"In the past Pokémon games, the story began when the Pokémon Professor let you choose one of three Pokémon. However, in Pokémon X and Y your first partner Pokémon; Chespin, Fennekin, or Froakie; won't be given to you from the Professor but by your friend instead. Then you'll receive a different Pokémon from the Professor later on. What you get from the Professor is one of the partner Pokémon from the original Pokémon Red and Pokémon Blue."'' 11:45 - 12:30
:::No where does it say you get both at the beginning of the game. Not to mention the Professor isn't even in the starting town. We can't say for sure when you'll officially meet the Professor in-game. Even if the city itself is post-first gym, he might not be there. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 19:01, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

== XY? ==

Would you say the xy starters are not official starters because a professor doesn't give them to you? So they may not be deemed good enough for starter trainers? [[User:Prinben|Prinben]] ([[User talk:Prinben|talk]]) 13:17, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
:A starter Pokemon is a Pokemon a beginning Trainer starts their journey with. XY is clearly indicating that it doesn't matter where you get them from, as long as you start with it, it's a starter. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 13:42, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

==Friend Safari==

Do the kanto starter first stage evos in the Friend Safari count as legitimately obtaining all three starter pokemon from a previous game? [[User:Yveltal0003|Yveltal0003]] ([[User talk:Yveltal0003|talk]]) 19:45, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

== Tierno and Trevor ==

Should their starters in XY be included? They don't pick from the three but they both only have two Pokemon when you first have a double battle with them and Serena. I think one of them's starter was Pikachu but I can't remember who. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 21:03, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
:I don't think we can confirm what their actual Starter Pokémon are or when they got them, seeming they could of switched them before you battle them. Unless its explicitly stated, I think we should just say that there could be other options for Starter Pokémon than those given, although that's just my opinion on the matter. --[[User:S2daam|--samm :D]] 21:19, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

== Turn sprites into artwork ==

Can anyone turn sprites into artwork because we're at Generation VI? Thank you! [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ([[User talk:Cinday123|talk]]) 07:02, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

== Split ==

SnorlaxMonster suggested this {{DL|Talk:Starter Pokémon|Definition of starter Pokémon|in an above section}}, but nothing came of it, so I'm slapping on the split template so that hopefully, even if no consensus comes of discussion, it'll go to the staff on [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f195/candidates-merging-moving-mainspacing-splitting-discussion-thread-114138/ the forum thread]. I propose that the traditional Grass/Fire/Water trios comprise an article, and all other Pokémon that Trainers in various media start with comprise another. I suggest ''Starter Pokémon'' and ''First Pokémon'', respectively, but any number of other names are also possible. The main thing is that the Grass/Fire/Water trios differ significantly from starting Pokémon in side games, the anime, the manga, etc. The two sets need to be treated separately.

Whether to include the Pikachu and Eevee from Yellow is a bone of contention that I'd prefer not to overshadow this, but since it's relevant, I will give my opinion on it. Under no circumstances should Eevee be included, because it's the rival's, not the players. (Same conditions as Marill and Ralts.) Pikachu's more of a gray area, but it doesn't fill the same role statistically or in availability in any other game, so I feel it also doesn't belong with the Grass/Fire/Water trios despite being a starting Pokémon for the player in the main series.[[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:05, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
:The only issue I have with this is that there is still the issue of Orre and Pokétopia, though it sounds like under the proposal it would be a First Pokémon over a Starter Pokémon. My two cents is that there is a bit of gray area currently, though they are called "the big three" for Japanese players. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:32, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
::If a "starter Pokemon" is something you get to choose, then none of Orre, Poketopia, or Yellow will count. Your "first Pokemon" is just something you're saddled with, then. I don't have a big problem with that sort of definition. As things stand, though, Poketopia's inclusion seems pretty dumb, to me. I like Colo and XD counting, because those actually have stories (like the main games) besides connecting with main games; but it doesn't seem that PBR has a story. It just seems like a glorified Pokemon Stadium. I'm not a fan of it "counting", period, whether for "starters" (of whatever definition) or "firsts" (I think). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:47, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
::P.S.: Oh, one can argue, though, that with XD's Eevee, you get your "choice" when you choose who to evolve Eevee into. And that at least includes Water and Fire (and then some), if not Grass. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:49, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
:::I feel as though "starter Pokémon" should refer only to the generation Grass-Fire-Water trios. I can accept Pikachu and Eevee under some interpretations, but I really don't think they count. "Starter Pokémon" is an official term, the problem is that it's difficult to find it actually defined (but I don't believe I've ever seen it used to describe Pikachu or Eevee); perhaps if somewhere the "Kanto starter Pokémon" is used to refer to Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle, that could count as excluding Pikachu and Eevee from being starters. Regardless, I think the generational elemental trios clearly share commonalities that Eevee and Pikachu do not. I don't even know if "first Pokémon" deserves a page, but I certainly think that info does not belong here. (Also, thanks for reviving my suggestion. I have a bunch that I've put forward in many places that even I've forgotten about, so it's always nice to see someone else take interest.) --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 16:17, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
::::While I feel like "Starter Pokémon" usually refers to the generation Grass-Fire-Water trios, I don't feel like special cases like Pikachu should be excluded/ignored (especially since Pokémon Yellow was a main series game). I don't agree with the rival's Pokémon being listed though, because they're never given to the player and thus technically not Starter Pokémon for us. It really depends how we're defining starter Pokémon, because if we're describing them as "First Pokémon, distributed or given without having to catch them, usually by a Professor" then Pikachu fits in that definition. Even if we decide to remove Pikachu and co. from the page, I'd at least like to see Pikachu listed somewhere. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 20:24, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

::I find splitting Starter Pokémon from First Pokémon redundant. Not only do they have similar meanings, your starters are your first Pokémon, which is why they are called starters in the first place. Pikachu was your starter in Yellow despite not being a Fire, Water, or Grass type Pokémon. I don't get why we'd need to split the official and unofficial starters. If this proposal succeeds, I would start a new proposal to merge them. I strongly oppose the split. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 18:43, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

:::I agree. A starter Pokémon is not defined by type. That's just stupid. A starter Pokémon is a Pokémon that you START with. That doesn't mean it has to be a grass/fire/water at all! And, that also means that the rival's Eevee, Marill, or Ralts all count as well. It is the Pokémon that they START with. It's a fact. Deal with it. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 16:50, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
::::Starter Pokémon are called such because they are are started with. It is never stated that other Pokémon aren't starters, because they technically are. ''Start''er Pokémon. EDIT: If they are split, I think that everything but what the player starts with in the main series should be on starter, everything else on first. [[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] ([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]]) 18:27, 13 March 2014 (UTC), edit time 18:28, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
:::::In official materials, "starter Pokémon" always seems to be used to refer to the Grass-Fire-Water trios. [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-episodes/chronicles-14-journey-to-the-starting-line/] [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-episodes/07_31-six-pack-attack/] [http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-gb/pokemon/starters/] [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-episodes/10_01-following-a-maidens-voyage/] [http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/pokemon-black-and-white-1/en-us/pokemon/] [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-episodes/16_12-new-placesfamiliar-faces/] [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-episodes/08_40-the-right-place-and-the-right-mime/] [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/super-smash-bros-brawl/] [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-emerald-version/] [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-tcg/black-white/explore-and-watch/] [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-tcg/black-white/black-white-cards]. I get that people would like the term to also refer to any Pokémon that any character has as their first Pokémon, but that is simply unsupported. The Grass-Fire-Water trios are clearly a distinct group, and they need a specific name to refer to them; officially, this has always been "starter Pokémon", which has also excluded any other Pokémon a character may have as their first Pokémon. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:44, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

== Why is Marill on this page? ==

Why is Marill on the page? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:57, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
:Because {{ga|Lyra}}/{{ga|Ethan}} has it. [[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] ([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]]) 00:05, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
::Oh I see now, I miss read the entry.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 00:19, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
:::Just because Ethan/Lyra has it does not make it a starter IMO. same with Wally's Ralts. we might need to re-discuss this -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] ([[User talk:Pokeant|talk]]) 08:36, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

== Trivia (Could be added to a trivia point speaking of egg group) ==

................. and Treecko and Charmander are the only starter pokemon to belonging to part dragon egg group. {{unsigned|Tgage}}
:If two are in it, it's not unique and therefore not notable, even with the cool factors of dragons added to the equation. You could make a case for noting how Chimchar's the only one in Human-Like, but I think that may be the only one in a unique group. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 13:59, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

==Mega Evolution Table==
Could someone fix the table that shows the mega evolutions of all the starters? Currently they're all redlinks, but when I tried to fix it myself it messed up the images. [[User:Slimey01|'''slimey''']][[User talk:Slimey01|'''01''']] 22:27, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

== Kalos starters gender ratio ==

Okay so I have played through both x and y a few diferent times here and only ONCE has there been a male fennekin. My fist play through of Y I choose fennekin and she was female. Shaunas Chespin was also female. Further more I have started quite a few different play through in X due to always losing my nuzlocks and first go my forkie was female and shaunas fennekin was also female. second time through my froakie was male but still shauna fennekin was female. Ive also gotten 3 resets in a row female chespin.
I dont know about froakie and chespin but Im PRETTY POSITIVE fennekins line is 75% female. Ive only seen 1 male fennekin in a lets play on youtube as well out of about 5 lets plays Ive watched.
Im also fairly certain that frokie's line is 50/50 on gender and maybe chespins.
I dont belive anyone can go through the code as of yet but Id like some proof at its still 75% the starter is male. I believe the reason they did that in gen 2 was so starters were more rare if you didnt know about ditto but that trend has kinda gotten out dated with everyone knowing of ditto and such.
So yeah I believe the gender ratio should be unknown of the kalos starters until we can get official proof of it.
I will say I have not done any breeding of the starters yet but think Ill start filling up a box for each one and post my results.

--[[User:Furry|Furry]] ([[User talk:Furry|talk]]) 02:22, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

: All of the starters have always had the same gender ratio, so not only is it probably safe to assume that the Kalos starters are the same but also people have the ability to see the coding of the games and as such we come up with the gender ratios for the Pokemon.

Also, almost all of the starters I have are male.--[[User:Ditto51|Ditto51/Tom]] ([[User_Talk:Ditto51|My Talk Page]]) 17:32, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

== Kalos secondary triangle ==

The Kalos starters have, in their final forms, two type triangles: Grass/Fire/Water and Fighting/Psychic/Dark. This is notable. Yet it [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Starter_Pok%C3%A9mon&curid=1162&diff=2134311&oldid=2134310 was removed].

But, you say: Dark is ''immune'' to Psychic rather than just being resistant. Well...so? Practically speaking, that is a trivial difference. If I put {{p|Braixen}} in against {{p|Chesnaught}}, Braixen has little to fear from Chesnaught's STAB moves whereas Chesnaught must fear any of Braixen's STAB moves. By the same token, if I put {{p|Greninja}} in against Braixen, Greninja has little to fear from Braixen's STAB moves whereas Braixen must fear any of Greninja's STAB moves. It's basically irrelevant that Greninja has ''even less'' to fear from Braixen than Braixen/Chesnaught do from Chesnaught/Greninja. The essential fact remains: by their typings (in their final forms), each of the starters has the advantage, ''both offensivley and defensively'', against another one of the starters in a triangular fashion.

It is irrelevant that Dark is immune to Psychic. The essential fact of "This Pokemon can do well against that one but not against the other one" is exactly the same. Both triangles are valid and this second one deserves noting. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:38, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

: I think the inital trivia note on it before it was changed is valid
::* The Kalos starter Pokémon's secondary types ({{t|Fighting}}, {{t|Psychic}}, and {{t|Dark}}) almost form another type-advantage triangle, being broken by the fact that the Dark type is immune to the Psychic type.
: Someone changed it which ultimately caused it to become confusing and end up being removed as it was fine for however long it was on there until it was removed (after rewording).--[[User:Ditto51|Ditto51/Tom]] ([[User_Talk:Ditto51|My Talk Page]]) 16:07, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

:::That I wouldn't mind since it's not stating that the Dark/Psychic/Fighting creates a triangle that is exactly like the Grass/Fire/Water cycle. In fact, it's why I decided to leave it there when it was added the first time before it was reworded.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:39, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
::::I don't see how the immunity breaks this though. It still forms a type triangle. Am I missing something? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 08:31, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
:::::The triangle is where the types are super effective to one type and resists the other. I feel that this is evident by Game Freak's continual usage of Grass/Fire/Water for the past six generations. Dark does not resist Psychic, thus breaking the triangle.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:45, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

== Gender ==
Isn't the starter Pokémon always the same gender as the player? If it is, should'nt it be added?
[[User:Lokki]] [[User talk:Lokki|Talk]] 13:35, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

:No, it isn't always the same. [[User:RandomDSplayer|RandomDSplayer]] ([[User talk:RandomDSplayer|talk]]) 12:59, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

== Trivia Fact ==

Here is an interesting trivia fact about the Fire-type starters.

'''There has been a superstition that the Fire-type starters are based on the animals of the Chinese Zodiac. Some of the information is false, like Cyndaquil and Fennekin based on the rat and dog.'''

[[User:Chrisbulb|Christian]] ([[User talk:Chrisbulb|talk]]) 02:35, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
:Speculation/opinion.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:12, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

== Trivia Fact: May (Anime) ==

Trivia Fact: May (Anime)

'''The only Kanto starter that May did not catch or obtain is Charmander.''' This is true because she already has Blaziken, a Fire starter native to Hoenn.

[[User:Chrisbulb|Christian]] ([[User talk:Chrisbulb|talk]]) 02:39, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
:You say "This is true because..." as if we doubt you, we know what you're talking about. It's not notable, one out of three, and it's also expected since she already had Blaziken.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:12, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Forget what I said about May's Blaziken. What I meant to say why the fact is true is because May has a Bulbasaur (now a Venusaur) and a Squirtle (now a Wartortle), but not Charmander.

[[User:Chrisbulb|Christian]] ([[User talk:Chrisbulb|talk]]) 23:42, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
:That is evident by looking at May's Pokemon list, so it doesn't belong in trivia. [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 23:58, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

== Other in-game starters ==

Is that section really necessary? Obviously not every Pokémon Trainer starts out with the same starter Pokémon - Falkner uses his dad's Pokémon, not the starters, and dozens of random NPCs could be running around with Pokémon from the Professors (even if not these specific species), yet the few who mention their first Pokémon say they got them from their parents or something of the sort. For instance, [[Sinnoh Route 204|Youngster Tyler's Magikarp and Starly]] are from his dad if memory serves. Do we ''need'' a section showing all of the known NPC starters? I definitely think only the players' starters belong on this page, except MAYBE Eevee since it was at least ''intended'' for the player; things like Wally's Ralts and Ethan's/Lyra's Marill don't belong here in my opinion. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 16:00, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

== Raichu ==

I think we should add Raichu alongside BST comparison table (fully evolved) table for clarity's sake. This is not damaging the table or harming anything, it would make sense to include fully evolved version of Pikachu there, and there would be no need to remove Pikachu. [[User:PkmnTrainerV|The legendary PkmnTrainerV is Here!]] ([[User talk:PkmnTrainerV|talk]]) 11:08, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
:The reason why Raichu is not included is because you can't get Raichu in Yellow nor evolve Pikachu.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:18, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
::I know that, I just thought it would be more clear, and with a note about Raichu in Yellow. Since extra info won't hurt. That's my opinion, I guess. [[User:PkmnTrainerV|The legendary PkmnTrainerV is Here!]] ([[User talk:PkmnTrainerV|talk]]) 13:12, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

== Mary´s Marreep ==

Shouldn´t we add Mary´s Mareep as her first pokemon as well?--[[User:Robin Maximo|Robin Maximo]] ([[User talk:Robin Maximo|talk]]) 12:07, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

== Trivium ==
I'd like to point out two things.
:1. Chespin, Fennekin, and Froakie are the first starter pokemon whos' final forms are all humanoid in appearance.
:2. The evolutionary lines of Chespin, Fennekin, and Froakie, especially their final forms, resemble character classes(fighter, mage, and thief) from {{wp|role-playing video games}}.[[User:Robbie|Robbie]] ([[User talk:Robbie|talk]]) 01:34, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
::1) Speculation
::2) No. That's too specific and means nothing at all. So what if their final forms are humanoid? It has no bearing on anything at all.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:19, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
:::1) Only the fire-type starter pokemon since Torchic became humanoid in their final evolutions.
:::2)The rest of the starter pokemon don't become what I said as they evolve.[[User:Robbie|Robbie]] ([[User talk:Robbie|talk]]) 12:30, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
::::I got the two mixed up.
::::1)Again, so what? Them being humanoid means absolutely nothing.
::::2)Again, nothing but speculation.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:39, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
:::::1)Really? The fact that Tepig and Snivy have the shortest names of all starter pokemon doesn't seem to be more noteworthy.
:::::2)Chesnaught is a spiky and armoured hedgehog resembling a knight and a Grass/Fighting type. Delphox is a witch-like fox and a Fire/Psychic type. Greninja is a ninja frog and a Water/Dark type.[[User:Robbie|Robbie]] ([[User talk:Robbie|talk]]) 18:36, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

== Suggestion ==

http://www.pokemon.co.jp/withU/resource/images/top/main-circle.png

Artwork featuring the player's starter Pokémon for the [[Pokémon with You]] campaign

[[User:Tester|Tester]] ([[User talk:Tester|talk]]) 06:24, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
:That is a great picture. I really like it. [[User:Veralann|'''Veralann'''''' (a.k.a. Incentive)''']] 14:55, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

== Alola starters ==

[[File:SM016.png|left|250px]]
Is it ok to use this picture for the Alola starters' "as seen in the anime" picture? --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 22:36, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

== To Add To Trivia: Alola Starters All Having Immunities ==

I thought of a interesting suggestion to add to the trivia section.

'''All three of the fully evolved Alola starters all have immunities.'''

Decidueye is part Ghost-type making it immune to Normal and Fighting-type moves. Incineroar is part Dark-type making it immune to Psychic-type moves. Primarina is part Fairy-type making it immune to Dragon-type moves.

I feel this is worthy because for the previous generations, it's either one, two or none of the starters that have immunities.

'''Gen 1:''' Charizard (It's part Flying-type making it immune to Ground. When it Mega Evolves into Mega Charizard X, however, it loses that immunity.)

'''Gen 2:''' None

'''Gen 3:''' Swampert (It's part Ground-type making it immune to Electric). When Sceptile Mega Evolves into Mega Sceptile, however, it becomes immune to Electric-type moves because of its ability Lightning Rod.

'''Gen 4:''' Torterra (It's part Ground-type making it immune to Electric) and Empoleon (It's part Steel-type making it immune to Poison).

'''Gen 5:''' None

'''Gen 6:''' Greninja (It's part Dark-type making it immune to Psychic).

[[User:Macpika|Macpika]] ([[User talk:Macpika|talk]]) 23:39, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

== Some Trivia Stuff ==

It's noteworthy saying that the Galar Starter trio have the lowest base friendship of all starter Pokémon (only 50)? {{unsigned|LaprasLaplace}}

== Coloration ==

Would it be okay to add a piece of trivia that Water-type starters all share the same Pokédex color, being blue? {{unsigned|Pseudonym}}
:Not even close to notable. It's not that important and is slightly obvious even without the Dex color assignment.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:02, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

== Edit ==

I undid an edit by Force Fire which added a lot of grammar and spelling mistakes like "taught how to caught" instead of "taught how to catch". [[User:Pseudonym|Pseudonym]] ([[User talk:Pseudonym|talk]]) 16:54, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

== Shortest name ==

"Two of the three Unova starter Pokémon, Snivy and Tepig, share the position of the starter Pokémon with the shortest name." I guess this trivia was written before LGPE came out because Eevee has five letters in its name too. Howewer, with this added, I don't think trivia is very notable since there's no connection between Eevee and Snivy&Tepig. Three pokemon from two different regions aren't that notable as two from the same one, I mean. So, should it be deleted? [[User:Itan|Itan]] ([[User talk:Itan|talk]]) 12:23, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
:Personally, I don't think it was really notable to begin with, but you are correct. Eevee makes this point not notable. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 19:55, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

== Most used secondary type ==

Is it worth noting that Fighting type is the most used secondary type for starter evolutions being used 7 times (8 times if counting Mega Evolutions) and that the Fire-Fighting combo is the most used type combo for starter evolutions, being used 6 times (7times with Mega Evolutions)? I think it is interesting tidbit, but I leave the decision to the admins. --[[User:Horn|Horn]] ([[User talk:Horn|talk]]) 11:41, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

==Alolan Starters==
That is a great one to add. Another one that might work is the one where Litten uses Slash to free itself and the other starters. https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/pokemon/images/9/96/SM016_14.png/revision/latest?cb=20170317091045

This image could also work too.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/pokemon/images/7/7a/SM016_12.png/revision/latest?cb=20170317091045
[[User:Macpika|Macpika]] ([[User talk:Macpika|talk]]) 04:28, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

:Don't respond to sections that are over six months old. 05:27, 9 October 2021 (UTC) {{unsigned|Animaltamer7}}

== Image to Add in "In the Anime (Main Series)" ==

For the "In the Anime (Main Series)" section, could somebody please add an image of the three Alola starters in the anime? That section feels incomplete without it. Some good images to consider using would be those from the episode "They Might Not Be Giants" especially the one where Litten uses Slash to free itself along with Rowlet and Popplio. [[User:Macpika|Macpika]] ([[User talk:Macpika|talk]]) 04:23, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

== Hisuian starters section on the page ==

Should the Hisui section be put just below the Sinnoh section of the page, or right after the Galar section of the page? As of now, they're listed below Galar's section, but their stats table are between the Sinnoh and Unova stats tables. [[User:Anzasquiddles|Anzasquiddles]] ([[User talk:Anzasquiddles|talk]]) 04:08, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
:I've moved the base stats to the bottom for now. Whether the Hisui starters should be after Sinnoh or Galar is a point of discussion, but they should at least be consistent across the page. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 04:22, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

:: My bad on the inconsistency, I had [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Starter_Pok%C3%A9mon&type=revision&diff=3473899&oldid=3473792 moved] them to the bottom but hadn't updated the stats section. Release order makes the most sense in my opinion. The fact that the Hisui region later becomes Sinnoh has no real relevance on an article about starter Pokémon. —[[User:Legoless|Legoless]] ([[User talk:Legoless|talk]]) 10:56, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

== fully evolved vs. fully-evolved ==

I noticed that the article inconsistently switches between "fully evolved" and "fully-evolved" with the hyphen. Which is correct? [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 10:04, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
:Bulbapedia's Manual of style doesn't say anything. if i had to guess, i THINK "fully evolved" is the grammatically correct one? [[User:Anzasquiddles|Anzasquiddles]] ([[User talk:Anzasquiddles|talk]]) 10:52, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
::I think you're right. Adverb/adjective combinations generally aren't supposed to be hyphenated. Additionally, pages such as [[List of fully evolved Pokémon by base stats]] also don't use the hyphenated version. I will go ahead and remove the hyphens. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 11:04, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

"Since Pokémon the Series: Black & White, no Grass-type starter Pokémon owned by a main character has evolved, as Snivy, Chespin, Rowlet, and Grookey all remain in their basic forms."
Is this really notable? [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 11:59, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

== Suggested move ==

I'm proposing we move this page to {{redlink|first partner Pokémon}}. Even though it has started several games ago, with {{g|Scarlet and Violet}} at least, almost every instance of the concept has been "first partner Pokémon". We also have numerous confirmations backing this up via Pokémoncenter.com, the TCG, and from staff at the company, to name a few things. I know we have several different concepts that have had name changes throughout the years, and for those instances we switch over to the new naming scheme (i.e. {{m|Thunder Shock}}, {{m|Feint Attack}}, {{m|Vise Grip}}), so we should do the same with this too. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 05:21, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
:I know starter Pokémon is still the popular fan term but if first partner Pokémon is the official term then I'd say yeah let's do it. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 09:53, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
::'''Oppose''', The term Starter is too iconic and it has been used before. [[User:TheBestOfAllTime|TheBestOfAllTime]] ([[User talk:TheBestOfAllTime|talk]]) 01:31, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
:::We don't really name things here based on what's popular or iconic. We typically use the official name. The games are known as Pokémon Red and Blue but we still title them [[Pokémon Red and Blue Versions]] because that's what they're actually called. We went through a similar thing with Version-exclusive Pokémon being moved to Game-exclusive Pokémon when the latter started being used officially (although we moved the article back once the former started being used officially again). [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 10:54, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
:::: There's the searchability of the article to consider, people looking for "Starter Pokémon" will suddenly not find it there, "first partner Pokémon" is far less known, and moving it would also introduce potential confusion with [[Partner Pokémon (game)]]. "Starter Pokémon" would absolutely need to redirect to the new article location. Also, [https://www.nintendo.co.uk/News/2016/September/Which-one-to-choose-Revisit-first-partner-Pokemon-from-past-adventures-with-our-feature-news-1136790.html this] article seems to hyphenate it to "first-partner", rather than "first partner". [[User:Atrius97|Atrius97]] ([[User talk:Atrius97|talk]]) 11:12, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
:::::Since the term "starter Pokémon" was the main official term for this concept up until [[Generation V]] or so, it would still definitely be linked to as a redirect, and still mentioned in the article. It's just incredibly notable that they've essentially abandoned the term, barring some errant social media posts, and transitioned into first partner almost exclusively. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 11:20, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
::::::Also, we could add a link to the top leading to the disambiguation page: [[Partner Pokémon]]. {{u|Spriteit}} and {{u|Tiddlywinks}} are also working on other potential solutions to possible page issues in their userspaces. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 11:25, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
{{indent}}Changing to "first partner Pokémon" as the new official naming seems fine to me, as long as searching "Starter", "Starters", "Starter Pokémon" etc still redirects to it, and as long as there's still a bolded mention of the term "starters" in the opening blurb.

In the userspace samples, I've noticed that the page still uses "starter" frequently, which should stay in my opinion - it's more likely to be understood by readers, and much less awkward to read repeatedly than "first partner". Using the terms interchangeably should still be acceptable site-wide, in my opinion (plus, this saves the effort of going around and cleaning up every mention of either term).

Having a link to the [[Partner Pokémon]] disambig at the top also seems reasonable. --[[User:Boblers|Boblers]] ([[User talk:Boblers|talk]]) 16:56, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
:I oppose. [[User:Randodude|Randodude]] ([[User talk:Randodude|talk]]) 20:48, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
::I '''oppose''', agreeing with TheBestOfAllTime on the matter. The term is too iconic to change despite its official abandonment, and the concept of "official names no matter what" was abandoned [[Talk:Base stats#Move|ten years ago]] when [[base stats]]/[[individual values]]/[[effort values]] remained intact. ("Base" was understood to officially mean what we call EVs since the English release of FRLG, but the exact phrase "base stats" was not used until XY. Even if we date it from SwSh for "base points", it's been over a full generation.) In any case, the line in the MoS specifically requiring official English names was removed in October 2020,[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Bulbapedia:Manual_of_style&diff=next&oldid=3256369][https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Bulbapedia:Manual_of_style&diff=next&oldid=3256480] and was never written to apply to non-character concepts in the first place. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 01:13, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
:::To my knowledge aside from those rare exceptions we still tend to go for the most recent, official term. At the very least, the more recent, official term should be used first in the opening line with starter Pokémon appearing second. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 03:44, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
::::We list the official term first for base stats et al, so we would do the same here. My opposition is specifically against moving the page. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 23:36, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
::::: I agree with changing it, it's pretty clear that the new term is first partner, and it's abundantly used everywhere. Things change, but sure it can be remembered and archived the change in an appropriate section of the article. By the way, I think "starters" is up until Kalos at least, where there's a battle background called "Starters" featuring the first partner Pokémon. {{Unsigned|Williamgg}}
::::::I '''oppose''' a move for the page. Even if it's usually preferred, the wiki doesn't always go strictly by "official" names (as seen with the pages for Base stats/Effort values/Individual values/Original series). [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 11:14, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::::Those are the exception, not the rule. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 17:48, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
::::::::It still means that there is precedence for not changing page titles based on "official" names. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 00:01, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
::::::::I meant "precedent" rather than "precedence" (whoops), but the point is that "official" names shouldn't necessarily be the end-all-be-all in every case. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 00:08, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
{{indent}}I feel there's more drawbacks to keeping the page as is than benefit. "First partner Pokémon" is used to refer to more than just the three first partner Pokémon of each region. It's also used to refer generally to any "first Pokémon" a Trainer receives. It just seems natural to cover those topics with the actual terminology that is used, and it might not make sense to expand the article with that terminology and usage when we're still using the deprecated term. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 00:49, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
:Haven't said anything here so i just want to say that '''i support the move'''. It is worth a mention that "first partner Pokémon" is pretty much '''the''' preferred term used by TPC. Even game journalists and reviewers, independent or otherwise, have used the term "first partner" instead of "starter" in recent years (eg. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnFuMOTIGAE Ptcgradio's preview of Pokémon Sleep]).

:I believe Bulbapedia as a source of info should always be kept up-to-date, and that includes using the most up-to-date terms for these things, regardless of how attached you are to the old terms. I do see some ppl bringing up "but what about EVs/IVs", but as others have pointed out, that is a rare exception: with EVs/IVs, moving them to "base stats" and whatnot would confuse fans who are already so familiar with the term "base stats" as in attack, defense, etc. Moving "starter" to "first partner" wouldn't cause any confusion since they basically mean the exact same thing, it's just that one of them is used in official capacity. Plus it's not like we'll stop using the term "starter" completely; we can make a note of it on the opening paragraph and make "Starter Pokémon" a redirect to "First partner Pokémon".

:Oh, btw, it is also worth a mention that the first result when you look up "first partner Pokémon" on Google is a page from the Pokémon Fandom/Wikia wiki: [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/206616744180056065/1127445246054240286/image.png]. So, yeah, being beaten by the ''Fandom'' wiki in SEO results is about as good of a motivation as any to move the page, i think, lmao.

:[[User:Anzasquiddles|Anzasquiddles]] ([[User talk:Anzasquiddles|talk]]) 04:04, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
::I don't have much to say that hasn't already been said, but I just wanted to say that I also '''support''' the move. "First partner" is the preferred official term since Gen VII: [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112282908674244718/1126303264879693876/image.png in-] [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112282908674244718/1126304830609166468/tumblr_p0i8ejvXFe1qioqevo1_540.gif game], [https://www.pokemoncenter.com/product/290-80967/pokemon-tcg-first-partner-pack-johto in] [https://www.pokemoncenter.com/category/first-partner-pokemon-plush merchandise], [https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/meet-sinnohs-sensational-first-partner-pokemon-on-pokemon-tv and in] [https://scarletviolet.pokemon.com/en-us/trainers-guide/catching-pokemon-in-paldea/#choosing-your-first-partner-pokemon news articles] [https://youtu.be/SlSI2nxgMjM?t=95 and videos]. And I think it's more important to use the current names than the old names, especially when you consider that current fans who have only been exposed to the franchise through official media are only going to know the term "first partner Pokémon".
::And I also wanted to reiterate what Landfish said: ''"First partner Pokémon" is used to refer to more than just the three first partner Pokémon of each region. It's also used to refer generally to any "first Pokémon" a Trainer receives.'' (See the previous in-game examples.) These other first partner Pokémon are worth talking about, and it makes more sense to talk about them using the term "first partner" on a page called "first partner Pokémon" than it does to talk about them using the term "starters" on a page called "starter Pokémon", a fanmade term that has historically only applied to Pokémon that ''players'' can start with. [[User:Storm Aurora|Storm Aurora]] ([[User talk:Storm Aurora|talk]]) 05:46, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
:::While I understand all of the points in support of the move, I have to '''oppose''' for a reason that seems to have been glanced over: Accessibility and discoverability. TPCi and associated media have indeed been using "first partner" since Gen 6, but it's extremely clear that the community at large has not adopted that term. Any space with actual pokemon fans still almost exclusively use "starter" to refer to these Pokemon. If this page moves to, "first partner", and all Bulbapedia's SEO is directed towards that term instead, people searching for "starter pokemon" on various search engines are not going to find this article, but rather much lower quality articles from other wikis, or news sites (This article is currently the top result, next two results on Google would be a news article from dotesports.com, and a wiki article from "poke-pikachu.fandom.com"). Starter Pokemon may not be the most current term, but it's still an official term. I don't think the move is worth sacrificing the Pokemon community's ability to easily find this article and the relevant information they're after. [[User:Atrius97|Atrius97]] ([[User talk:Atrius97|talk]]) 10:42, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
::::Starter Pokémon is no longer used in an official capacity outside of unmonitored social media accounts. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 11:13, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
:::::I disagree that moving the page will significantly impact the community's ability to easily find this article. Even if it's no longer the title, the phrase "starter Pokémon" will still be mentioned early on in the article, so it should still show up in search results for starter Pokémon. And in the long run, switching the title might encourage fans to use the term more often, which would make search trends for first partner Pokémon increase. [[User:Storm Aurora|Storm Aurora]] ([[User talk:Storm Aurora|talk]]) 12:47, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
A bit late to the rebuttal but i would point out something re: "fans use starter Pokémon more often than first partner Pokémon"; could it be the reason that "starter" is still heavily in use among the fandom is because we, one of the biggest Pokémon websites, still use it? If we had switched to "first partner" back in Gen 7, i feel like the term would the term have gotten more mileage. '''[[User:Anzasquiddles|{{color|4488FC|Anzasquiddles}}]]''' 2222(:D)SSSS ([[User talk:Anzasquiddles|talk]]) 00:33, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
:The [https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/1690638777180733441 SV DLC trailer] that dropped at the end of Worlds refers to them in plain text as first partner Pokémon. Fans commenting on the trailer all call them starter Pokémon. Clearly, starter Pokémon is the preferred term among fans. However, as a Pokémon wiki, we should be using the official terminology for things, not the fan terminology. So, I would like to reiterate that I '''support''' moving this page to first partner Pokémon, since that is the current official term for this group of Pokémon. [[User:Storm Aurora|Storm Aurora]] ([[User talk:Storm Aurora|talk]]) 14:14, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
:I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here, but [https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/1690755121674629120 here's another example] of "first partner Pokémon" being used officially to refer specifically to the Pokémon from the Grass-Fire-Water trios that players can start with. [[User:Storm Aurora|Storm Aurora]] ([[User talk:Storm Aurora|talk]]) 16:33, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
::I'm not an admin, so I may have no say here, but while "starter Pokémon" is more iconic, the clear, official term is "first partner Pokémon". As a wiki, Bulbapedia should use the official term over the fan term. Pokémon adopts fan terms when it wants to - Shiny Pokémon, Eeveelution, etc. - but it hasn't in this case. Hanging on to a fan term for recognisability doesn't do for a wiki documenting official information. You can still redirect from starter to first partner and even include it in the main body or trivia. But the switch should happen. This is the most frequented wiki, and alongside Serebii, the most frequented fansite. Joe of Serebii is already talking about making the change. I '''support'''.--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] ([[User talk:Darknesslover5000|talk]]) 00:09, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
:::'''Strong oppose'''. "Starter Pokémon" is universally used by the fandom, and changing it would just make things more confusing. Besides, "first partner Pokémon" is much more convoluted of a term. [[User:Biblical Bambi|Biblical Bambi]] ([[User talk:Biblical Bambi|talk]]) 00:28, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
::::Additionally, Bulbapedia is in no way affliated with GAME FREAK or Nintendo and is thus under no obligation to use the "official" term. [[User:Biblical Bambi|Biblical Bambi]] ([[User talk:Biblical Bambi|talk]]) 00:30, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::These points have all been addressed in the above discussion. Also, just because we're not an official site doesn't mean we're not allowed to use and educate about the official terms. This is meant to be an encyclopedia, not an opinionated fan site. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 01:13, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
::::::(EC)Of course it doesn't mean we ''can't'' use the official terms, but it does mean that we don't have to, especially when the "unofficial" term is more widely used by several orders of magnitude. SmashWiki often uses unofficial terms when they're the most popular, so it's not like we'd be alone. [[User:Biblical Bambi|Biblical Bambi]] ([[User talk:Biblical Bambi|talk]]) 01:22, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
:I very much agree that this move should happen! And a redirect from "Starter Pokémon" should still allow those searching for it to find the page. Official terminology should ''always'' be used, without bias or opinions of the fandom. [[User:YutoMaikeru|YutoMaikeru]] ([[User talk:YutoMaikeru|talk]]) 01:19, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
::"Starter Pokémon" has over 6.4 million results on Google vs. about 15,000 for "first partner Pokémon", a difference by a factor of more than 400. With a difference that staggering, I see no reason to make the move. [[User:Biblical Bambi|Biblical Bambi]] ([[User talk:Biblical Bambi|talk]]) 01:30, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
:::Because the idea is to use the official term. It isn't about popularity, or hits. If this was a nascent wiki, I would understand, but Bulbapedia is ''the'' Pokémon wiki. Even though it doesn't always seem to load half the time anymore, or they've made design changes people find contentious sometimes, Bulbapedia is where people go for Pokémon information in wikia format. The only other site with similar pull is serebii. So this site should still use the ''official'' term that is used in official material. A fansite this may be, but it isn't a fanfiction site; fan terms, popular or otherwise, shouldn't have precedent over the official terminology. Redirects exist, the wiki can redirect starter Pokémon to first partner Pokémon. A fan-term should only be used on a wiki as the main term until a piece of official media comes out with a proper, legitimate term.--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] ([[User talk:Darknesslover5000|talk]]) 01:44, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
::::Our goal is primarily to be a useful source of information, not to bow to TPCI's whims; that's why we have articles on things like [[ROM hacks]] that GAMEFREAK probably wouldn't approve of. People aren't searching for information on "first partner Pokémon", they're searching for "starter Pokémon". Thus, moving the page would be counterproductive to our goal of being a useful source of information on Pokémon. The argument goes both ways, too: the "official" term can be mentioned on and redirected to "Starter Pokémon", so there would be no confusion. [[User:Biblical Bambi|Biblical Bambi]] ([[User talk:Biblical Bambi|talk]]) 01:50, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
::::::I'm not saying this wiki doesn't cover fan information. I ''am'', however, saying it should not take fan terms over official ones. Creating an official term is not a "whim", it's how things work. You could compromise your way, yes, but that is not the official term, and it should not be treated as such either. This discussion needs more attention, so it can be decided one way or the other already.--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] ([[User talk:Darknesslover5000|talk]]) 01:53, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
{{Indent}}Just letting you know this is being discussed amongst staff. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 01:56, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
:I don't know if my opinion matters as much, but I '''support''' this move. This wiki has been trying to use more official terms, and as we can see right now, "First partner Pokémon" is what the Pokémon Company has been using. If they had used "Starter Pokémon" in the newest SV trailer, at least that would tell us that they use the term interchangeably, but they didn't. "First partner Pokémon" is what they prefer to be called, not "Starter Pokémon". My only issue with the change, is regarding the wording on some pages. You guys have talked and said that we wouldn't need to entirely replace "starter Pokémon" with "First partner Pokémon" on every page. I think we need some rules for when to use "first partner Pokémon" and when it would be better to use "starter Pokémon". "First partner Pokémon" can be used for the player's or character's first Pokémon, while "starter Pokémon" can be used as a traditional first Pokémon from the games. For example, Ash's first partner Pokémon is Pikachu, but he later got all 3 starters from Kanto. That would be a good example of using "starters" instead of "first partner". Another example is that most of the protagonists of Pokémon Adventures have a different first partner Pokémon than the traditional ones from the games, like Red's first partner Pokémon is Poliwhirl but his starter is Bulbasaur. Poliwhirl is a Pokémon that Red first owned, but Bulbasaur is what started his journey to be a Pokémon Trainer. Goh is a character whose first partner Pokémon is Scorbunny, but he later catches the remaining first partner Pokémon from Galar. Goh's page has a picture of him and all his starters with the title saying "Goh and his Galar starters". That should stay, as "Goh and his first partner Pokémon from Galar" doesn't sound great, and it really doesn't make much sense. [[User:TBR2001|TBR2001]] ([[User talk:TBR2001|talk]]) 05:44, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
::I think using both "starter Pokémon" and "first partner Pokémon" is a bad idea, as it's basically an admission of the limitations of the latter term. If the whole idea is to use official terminology, then "starter" shouldnmt be used at all; TPCI collectively refers to them as "first partners" and not "starters". If the result would be confusing, then you have a good argument for not moving this page. [[User:Biblical Bambi|Biblical Bambi]] ([[User talk:Biblical Bambi|talk]]) 07:32, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
With another use of the term in a [https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/1712543667011932396 recent anniversary tweet for Pokémon X and Y], I think now is a good time to revive this discussion. I '''strongly support''' the move. I don't really see the reason for the opposition towards it, personally - if there's an official term, that's the term Bulbapedia should use, plain and simple. There's this idea I see come up that by changing the page title, the term that the fandom has used for over two decades will suddenly disappear along with it, but I don't really think that's ever been the case. People will use the more common, accepted term if they please - heck, a page with the exact same debate, [[Super-ancient Pokémon]] got changed two years ago despite Weather trio being that page's name for years, and people still do refer to them as the Weather trio to this day. We're not trying to be the term police, it just makes more sense to me for our pages use the official terms instead of a two decade old fanterm. Whatever term people decide to use after that, we don't care. [[User:Meeper12346|Meeper12346]] ([[User talk:Meeper12346|talk]]) 02:46, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
:I ''' weakly support'''. If they're phasing out "starter" in favour of "first partner" then I see no reason why we shouldn't use the latter as the main term, while at least mentioning "Starter Pokémon" as a synonym at the top of the article since it carries a lot of history among the fandom. Though to be honest, I'm personally not entirely convinced that the terms *aren't* interchangeable. Looking at the official YouTube channel, the last mention of "starter Pokémon" was just 11 months ago as of this writing, in the description of the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_VMGv2kKEI Pokémon Horizons announcement trailer] video; which is still in *this* current generation. And even more recent than this, 5 months ago, they use the term "starter" in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXDbeJH7gZ0 this YouTube short] that showcases a few illustration rares of the Kanto trio in the TCG. Now you could argue that second example is more informal given the format, but they're still co-opting the term here. But overall I'm not against the move if it needs to be done. [[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 07:40, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

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== Crustle and Dig ==

Just because [[Cilan's Crustle]] burrowed into the ground does not always mean that it used {{m|Dig}}. For an analogy: a ton of Flying types were seen flying in various media, but that's because they can fly naturally, not because they know the move Fly. Instead of adding it back and sparking an edit war, try bringing it up on the article's Talk Page instead. Thank you. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 17:39, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

== Tracey's Marill ==

Please don't add back the Fairy typing on Tracey's Marill. Because it hasn't appeared since the Fairy type has been revealed, it does not need to be changed. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 22:38, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

== Edit warring ==

Hello, I've noticed that you've been constantly re-adding content that has been removed several times by staff and other editors in general. This is considered edit warring, which is a {{bp|Blocking policy|blockable offense}} on Bulbapedia. Because of the amount of times you've already been edit warring today, continuing to edit war without discussion will lead to a temporary block from editing. Please keep this in mind during the future. Thank you. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 22:49, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

== Jessie's Woobat ==

Please do not remove the notice about the Woobat trivia. It is there to warn users not to add it because it is unnotable. Also, please do not revert a user (especially an admin), if you disagree with the reversion bring it up to the talk page of the article. Thank you for reading.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:50, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

== Fairy-type Pokemon on move pages ==

Please be more careful when you're adding the Fairy type to Pokemon on move pages. If the subsection (usually tutored or event moves) does not cover Generation VI, the Pokemon should not be listed as Fairy-type, since they ''weren't'' at any point that the subsection covers. It's the same reason that, above, Funktastic asked you not to change Tracey's Marill to Fairy-type. Thanks for your understanding. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:38, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
==Userspace limits==
Hi. I noticed you have been editing the <code>User:</code> namespace a lot recently. Please don't do it any more, though. Bulbapedia's {{bp|Userspace policy}} restricts the amount you can edit your userpage: no more than three edits per day and make sure you contribute to our {{bp|mainspace}} more than your userspace. This policy was instated to promote people helping out in the mainspace, and also to control strain on our server. Bulbapedia is an encyclopedia, after all, so help us out by contributing to some articles before coming back to your personal userpage. The more often you edit in the mainspace, the more you will be allowed to edit your userpage. Thanks! --'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 18:02, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
==Hold on!==
If you did not read your last warning, then please read it now. You have edited the <code>User:</code> namespace too much. In the past, no one was allowed to edit their userpages because some users were over-editing their own userpages. Your personal editing privileges can be taken away, so please do not edit your page any more for now. Instead, how about helping contribute to some of Bulbapedia's [[Special:Random|many articles]]? Thank you. --'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 18:21, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

I did see it. I stopped as soon as I did.[[User:Rahl|Chy-i]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 01:15, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

== Your userpage ==

I noticed you copied it from my userpage, so when did you copy it, and if you don't know, I'll contact an active admin. --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 03:51, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
I did it a few weeks ago. I'm sorry if its a problem I will change it if immediately.[[User:Rahl|Chy-i]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 14:16, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

==Talk Page Comments==
Removing talk page comments, including the initial welcome template, is prohibited per Bulbapedia's {{bp|talk page policy}}. Please do not remove any comments in the future. If you wish to clean old comments away, you should archive your talk page instead. Thank you! --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 21:42, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the info, will not happen again.[[User:Rahl|Chy-i]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 21:47, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

== EP017 ==

Like the trivia said, they were implied to be male because of the pronouns they used that are commonly used by males. This does not mean that it is a straight up confirmation of their gender. I don't know if the staff of the past had any discussions about this, but seeing as how they've never added the gender and stuck it in the trivia, I'm guessing that they didn't count the implications as their genders being confirmed.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:13, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

== Far-reaching changes ==

If you want to make a structural edit that will affect a wide range of pages, as you did to many Trainers' Pokemon in the anime recently, it's usually best to suggest it on a talk page first rather than just do it, so you can get feedback on whether it's a good idea. That way, you don't waste your time making a bunch of edits that get undone, and somebody else doesn't waste their time undoing all those edits. Thanks! [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:13, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

== Userspace pages ==

Make sure when you're making templates or any type of userspace pages, you start the page with User:Rahl/ , or otherwise you'll make the page in the mainspace where it doesn't belong. I've moved your [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Rahl/Gym_Leader_Pokemon_Template page] for you. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 20:02, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. I didn't know how to fix it.[[User:Rahl|Chy-i]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 20:52, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

== Abuse ==

Due to your numerous edits to your Gym Leader user page today, your userspace privileges have been revoked. You edited the page '''16''' times even though you're allowed to make only three userspace edits per day (provided that you've made four mainspace edits). And while the EB may give special permissions if the page in question is intended for mainspace, your page looks more like personal stuff just for fun.

You can request an admin to give you your rights back if you think you've redeemed yourself by being helpful on the mainspace.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 17:56, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

== Your Gym Leader userpage ==

I had to go through and remove some redlinks on that page, as they have appeared in the Wanted pages. There were also some redirects, but it's mostly redlinks. Be sure to check to see if you intend to create links to pages that do not exist. If the page in question will exist later on, that's fine, but if not, either remove them or replace the link with one to a relevant page that does exist. Also, try not to get the templates {{template|color}} and {{template|color2}} confused: the latter creates a link in that color, while the former just colors the text. Just letting you know. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 01:35, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Alright, thank you very much.[[User:Rahl|Chy-i]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 01:36, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

== Fletchinder ==

Anime ≠ Games. In the anime, Pokémon have been able to use more that 4 moves at once in one episode, like [[Ash's Kingler]] and [[Misty's Gyarados]] and [[Misty's Luvdisc|Caserin]]. Also, In ''[[BW067|Cilan Takes Flight]]'', [[Cilan's Pansage]] still knew {{m|Bite}} even when in earlier episodes, he used {{m|Bullet Seed}}, {{m|Solar Beam}}, {{m|Dig}} and {{m|Rock Tomb}}. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 05:46, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

While that has happened, Fletchinder has only been seen using Flame Charge. Since it learned a new move it more than likely lost one of those four moves. As soon as it is seen using them then it can be added.[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 01:18, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

== Genders ==

We only add in genders for Pokémon who are confirmed to have them, including the ones who are normally genderless. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 20:04, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

== Dub titles ==

Hello, please stop adding the dub titles for now. They are not 100% confirmed yet (unless you have a source that proves otherwise). Adyniz has said "consider these unconfirmed for now" on the forums. ☼ Blazing[[User talk:Blazingfist|Fist ☼]] 16:27, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't know about that sorry. I will stop until its confirmed.[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 16:33, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
:It's ok. I've undone all of your dub title edits for now. It's best to wait until a staff member adds the titles or until the official Bulbagarden twitter account posts the titles. Unless of course you have a good source that confirms the titles, you can always let a staff member know. ☼ Blazing[[User talk:Blazingfist|Fist ☼]] 16:37, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

== Anime appearances ==

Who told you to go adding a new section to the anime appearances and give some Pokémon their own section? What's the difference in an "other" appearance that isn't "major" or "minor" in nature? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 16:09, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
:You mean with Magnemite and Magneton?[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 17:11, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
::No, all of them. I just happened to notice those two. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 15:40, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
:::Some of them just happened to have a lot that said major when they weren't all that important. I figured organizing it a little bit would be helpful.[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 17:26, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
::::That's fine, but if it isn't major, then it's minor. There's really no reason for a middle ground. Also, when having a discussion, indent your comments using a colon. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:52, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
:::::When you're told to stop doing something by a staff member, especially a {{bp|Webmasters|Vice-Webmaster}}, you really should not ignore what you're being told. So, once again, if an appearance isn't major, then it's minor. There is no need for an "other" section, so stop adding them to species articles. Thank you. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 00:29, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

== Serena's Pancham ==

You probably didn't notice, but [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:S2daam/Serena%27s_Pancham someone already has a page for Serena's Pancham in the works]. In the future, you can [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&search=&fulltext=Search&ns2=1&ns3=1&profile=advanced use] this function to see if someone already has the page in the works. ☼ Blazing[[User talk:Blazingfist|Fist ☼]] 17:11, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Alright thank you. I will get rid of mine in that case.[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 01:53, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

== XY044 Gym Battle ==

Don't forget Pikachu.--JasonL 15:33, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

I usually leave Pikachu alone. I don't care for all the screen time he gets and writing about Pikachu's "glorious" gym battles just aggravates me and causes me to oppinionate what I write. If you would like to add Pikachu's gym battle to his page you can find the video here-https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGaf2eOqzGtlSeupxNROxug/videos. Rahl 17:47, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

==Just a heads up==
On your user pages "User:Rahl/Gym Leader Pokemon Template", "User:Rahl/Gym Battles", and "User:Rahl/League Battles", please use [-[File:694MS.png|link=Clemont (anime)#Heliolisk]-] (without the dash) instead of {-{MSP|694|Clemont (anime)#Heliolisk}-} to make images that act as links to other pages. The later causes the links to go to pages such as "Ash's Pikachu (Pokémon)". Thanks. [[User:Adamws|Adamws]] ([[User talk:Adamws|talk]]) 22:53, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

== Edit Warring ==

Please do not edit war. If you disagree with an edit, discuss it with the user that reverted you. Do not revert them. Thank you.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:15, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

== Clemont's Magneton ==

If you feel it deserves an article, create it in your userspace, not the mainspace. Just because it meets notability requirements (which I'm going to have to check to see if it is), '''does not''' mean you can just create it in the mainspace. Once it's been approved of by the admins, then it will be moved.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:54, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

== Cilan's Stunfisk ==

I'm only going to say this once, the moves are only marked as recent if it used them in its most recent appearance. It only used Thunderbolt and Mud Bomb in its most recent appearance, so they should be the only ones marked as recent.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:21, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

While that is true, it has not used Camouflage since its debut. That makes the rest of them most recent.Rahl 13:37, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
:You didn't even read what I just said. The moves are only marked as recent if it used them in its '''most recent appearance'''. It only used Thunderbolt and Mud Bomb in its '''most recent appearance'''.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:47, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

That is true but it is pretty obvious that it still has Scald and Sludge Bomb. Rahl 14:10, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
:A Pokémon does not forget a move like it does in the games. The anime=/=games. It may still have Camouflage, just as it may have Sludge Bomb or Scald, even if it hasn't used Camouflage since its debut.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:25, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

== [[Ash's Pikachu]] ==

FYI, someone already [[Talk:Ash's Pikachu#Pikachu's nature|started a discussion]] that you are [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ash%27s_Pikachu&curid=827&diff=2283467&oldid=2283422 still asking people to start] without having even participated in the discussion. I've requested protection of the page to force discussion. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 19:24, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
:I don't have an opinion on whether or not the nature should be in the infobox. However, constantly reverting to your preferred state and insisting that other people start a discussion without even attempting to do so yourself is unacceptable especially when you are the one that is making a change, and especially when you have been warned multiple times about edit warring. The page is now protected now, so I won't block you, but in the future, if someone reverts one of your changes to a page you are just as responsible (if not more so) for starting a discussion. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 19:58, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for that information and I have joined that discussion now. [[User:Rahl|Rahl]] 20:12, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

==Hi!==
Hi! I see that you're reordering the Pokémon lists on episode pages. Please take {{bp|Manual of style/Anime/Reference list|this}} into consideration. [[Dawn's Piplup]] should precede [[Jessie's Wobbuffet]] and [[James's Mime Jr.]]! Thank you! --[[User:Mikuri|'''Mi''']][[User talk: Mikuri|'''ku''']][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|'''ri''']] 13:50, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

I was not aware of that. Thank you for correcting me.[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] 13:53, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

== Section header levels ==

On [[Clair's Dragonair]] and other similar pages, sections such as "Personality and characteristics" and "Moves used" belong under the section it refers to, being "In the anime", unless the personality and characteristics and moves used apply in all other canons on the page. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 00:50, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

== Ash's Fletchinder ==

I was wondering why you deleted my part in the trivia about Ash's Fletchinder being his first Pokemon to purposefully use its ability outside of battle. Did another of his Pokemon do it before him? [[User:Srushj11|Srushj11]] ([[User talk:Srushj11|talk]]) 03:56, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes Buizel used it outside of battle at some point in Sinnoh. I believe I mentioned Buizel in the comment when I removed it. [[User:Rahl|Rahl]] 12:22, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

No, Buizel use in battles the first one was in Third gym battle and second time was in battle against Mr. Mine.--[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 07:17, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

== Question ==

I don't understand why you removed the information about Pokémon living in the Gym from the Gym pages. I saw your edit summary, but why shouldn't the information be there? I can't see why it should be restricted to Pokémon used in Gym battles. Personally, I think it makes more sense to change the heading to simply "Pokémon" and then make the clarification about ones that were used in Gym battles and the others that have only been seen residing in the Gym. [[User:Aggron989|''AGG'']][[User talk:Aggron989|''RON'']][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|''989'']] 16:43, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

I was not the one who ended up deciding that. It was being changed when I started adding that to pages a while ago. [[User:Rahl|Rahl]] 16:51, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

:I see, sorry about that. I was looking to see if that was the case, but I couldn't tell. Thanks, though! [[User:Aggron989|''AGG'']][[User talk:Aggron989|''RON'']][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|''989'']] 17:00, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

==Moves improvised==
Hi there! Thank you for all your help with the "Moves improvised" section. I was planning on getting screenshots for all of the combinations but I can be very lazy sometimes. It would take a while for me to get the images I needed and the ones you uploaded are just great. Thank you! ;)

On a related note, I removed the name field because there are only a few combinations that ended up getting names in the anime, such as Dragon Formation (Drew's Flygon's Dragon Breath + Drew's Absol's Razor Cut), which Lilian even called "Dragon Razor Wind" because she felt like giving a name for a combination that already had one. :'D But anyway, I don't think we should have a field for things like "Bubble-Swift combination", it's not official, it's just too obvious, and the moves involved are there for this exact purpose. Thanks again, your help is really appreciated! --[[User:Mikuri|'''Mi''']][[User talk: Mikuri|'''ku''']][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|'''ri''']] 01:13, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
: I'm glad I could be of help and will continue working on it. Thank you for the appreciation.[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] 01:53, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

== The Preview Button ==
Instead of editing a page several times in a row, try using the preview button to make sure your edit looks the way you want it to. It's right next to the Save Page button. Please try it out, so as not to clog up the Recent Changes. Also, if you want to edit multiple sections of the page, make sure that you click "edit this page" at the top of the page rather than editing it by section. Thanks! --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 12:44, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
: I know. It is just I edit one part that I'm focused on and then notice a completely different section also needs fixed.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] 12:45, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

== Talonflame's moves ==

Why do we need pictures of Ash's Talonflame using Peck, Razor Wind, and Steel Wing when it was still a Fletchling in its page when the latest it has been seen using those moves were when it was a Fletchinder? --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 18:42, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
: Because it is a page for everything about Ash's Talonflame. By your logic we should get rid of all its information as a Fletchling because it evolved. Every other page still shows moves from their older forms and this one should too.[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 18:47, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

== Seviper336 ==

Hello, just here to tell you that the message you left on Seviper336's page was probably a bit rude. Whilst their edits may have been non-productive, try not to be too upfront with others, especially new users. Thanks.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:03, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
: Sorry about that, I just got a bit frustrated. I'll be more patient from now on.[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 03:17, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

== Did u put that photo ==

Of Ash Flecthinder evolving by taking blast to protect its friends --[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 02:23, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

== Blocked ==
Hello, over the past few days, you have been involved in several edit wars that have been largely disruptive to the editing process. As an experienced user, you should know that edit warring is against Bulbapedia's {{bp|Code of conduct}} and is unacceptable. Please use the talk pages to settle disputes and once a consensus is made, make edits then, not while the discussion is actively taking place. If a user continues to revert your edits, please report them to a staff member and let us handle the situation, continuing to engage only propels the conflict. Due to the severity, you have been blocked for a week. Please keep our policies in mind once you return. Thank you. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 04:24, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

== Trainer Class Pokémon ==

Only Pokémon from trainer classes that don't have articles should be in the anime sections. If there is someone of a trainer class that does have an article, then the Pokémon information to go there.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:09, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
:Understood--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 12:45, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

== XY092 ==

Why is Olympia's Meowstic using Psychic without her saying to do so not an error? You said to look up Ash and Ritchie's battle, but the only thing that happened that's noticeable is Ash's Charizard refusing to listen to Ash, costing his trainer the Indigo League. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 13:56, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
:Actually if you watch and listen to the battle only one command was given; Happy was told to use Sleep Powder. Every other move was done without the Trainer telling them. Pokémon use moves without being told to all the time. It's not like they can't unless the Trainer commands it. Another example would be Misty's Togepi who often used Metronome without its Trainers command.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 14:30, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
::But in the occasions where Misty's Togepi used Metronome, nobody knew that Togepi knew it. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 01:21, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
:::Then look at the battle that I mentioned before. Every series has times when Pokémon act without a specific command given. It's not an error, it's more like free will.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 02:42, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

== Hello ==

It has come to my attention that you share an IP addresses with two users, specifically {{u|Pikablu}} and {{u|Reinhartmax}}. What furthers my suspicions is that all three of you are involved in the {{m|Slash}} edit war with Playerking and that Reinhartmax has made numerous edits to your userpages. You've already been asked about {{u|Rahl1}}, so that doesn't help your cause. So if you may, please explain why you share an IP address with the two users.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:17, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
:I usually use a school computer in one of the classrooms to do my edits since I am in there so often. I don't know either of those users.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 05:20, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
::Also Rahl1's account is my brother's account, which was figured out at least a year ago and I have many people who edit my userpage, like {{u|Playerking95}}, {{u|Pattyman}}, {{u|Seabiscuit2020}}, and {{u|JasonL}} to name a few. There have also been quite a few people involved in the discussion about the Slash move, like Playerking, as you mentioned, and {{u|05308}}.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 05:30, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

:::You initially said you wanted to keep the Rahl1 account before saying that he was your sibling. Leading me to doubt it. I singled out Reinhartmax because most of his userpage edits have been made to your userspace, one doesn't spend so much time editing a specific user's userspace.
:::And on the IP addresses, that would be believable if two of the IP addresses used did track back to an school's IP address, which they don't. One of the non school IP address have you and Pikablu using it 7 minutes apart from eachother. And the computer details do not change from user to user with those IP addresses, meaning it's coming from the same computer. So... explain?--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:39, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
::::I don't know when I even said I wanted to keep the Rahl1 account. I remember that he was asked about and said something like that because he was confused about what it was asking. Maybe Pikablu is one of my roommates who uses the shared computer we have in the house. I love editing on this site and I would never do anything to mess that up. Should I ask about it with them?--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 11:48, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
:::::Uh... huh. So your roommate just happens to share an interest of Pokémon and just happen to stumble upon Bulbapedia and just happen to be editing in the areas you have edited? That's a bit too coincidental.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:33, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
:::::::I have 3 roommates (or housemates however you want to call it) and we all play Pokémon and we discuss it quite a lot so I think the chances are pretty high. I don't know what you are exactly looking for me to say or what it will take for you to believe me on this that this is my only account. Other than a few times when I get stubborn with a policy I think I have been a wonderful contributor to Bulbapedia.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 03:41, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
::::::::So you happen to have three roommates which perfectly matches the amount of users using the same IP address as you. The fact that both you and Pikablu share the exact same opinion (The moves, Dawn's Pachirisu's gender, Shauna's Ivysaur and Tierno's Blastoise should get pages) and that you ''think'' it's your roommates (and I'm pretty sure you'd know if you discuss Pokémon related topics to eachother), is why I'm suspicious.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:04, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
Only one of them has an account on here and I thought it was only two users that we were talking about, not three. Considering how little he edits on here I never really bothered to ask what his name was and yes his account is Pikablu. Whenever one of the four of us found something we thought was wrong on here it would come up and that's probably where some similar ideas come from. I will make sure that I don't voice my opinion if he does so it doesn't seem like I am using numbers to get something to happen.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 14:28, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
:I assumed Rahl1 was also your roommate (siblings can be roommates too :P). Wait, you didn't ask which account it is yet you know it's Pikablu? That doesn't seem right. How could you possibly know, if you've never asked?--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:13, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
::No I don't live with him right now and I'm talking about Pikablu because I asked (after we started this conversation) what his account name was and he said it was that.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 04:22, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

== Manga moves ==

Just letting you know that the [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style/Manga|Manual of Style]] prohibits the adding of Pokémon moves on here unless it was called out by name first. It's completely different than the anime since not many of the moves are easily recognizable. Some of the stuff that were added so far have not been confirmed by name. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 00:19, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
:Sorry I didn't know that. Won't happen again.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 00:41, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
::And here is a reminder to not do this, please. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 06:57, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
:::If you check it Gold said for Togebo to use Fly.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 13:14, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
::::OK, this is getting really tiresome. I've reverted and removed edits multiple times. Just as a reminder, I will give you one, final warning: do not add any moves to a page if they haven't been outright called out. The next time I find you doing this, it will result in a block. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 03:54, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

== Pokémon articles ==

Some advice, if you wanted an article from your userspace to be mainspaced, you can ask an admin to take care of the redirects blocking the move instead of transferring content from the userspace to the redirect in particular, provided that the userspace articles were approved first. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 04:45, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

== Mainspacing articles ==

Firstly, do not move a page from your userspace to the mainspace without staff approval. You were warned similarly above with Clemont's Magneton. Just because you haven't received a response from someone you have asked to review your pages, that does not mean it is okay for you to move your pages anyway. If you must, either ask again or ask someone else, but do not take the decision into your own hands.

Secondly, as Pattyman said above, copy and pasting your article over an existing redirect is not the proper way to accomplish a move. If a redirect is in the way, please leave it to staff members to move.

Thank you. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:39, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

==Help==
Hi, seeing how you've been able to make rather well articles for some of the pokedex holders' pokemon in adventures, can you help me with the summaries I'm working on (I work on several wikias as well, so my time to work on them, including this one, are limited. Especially on a wiki where I'm the sole editor) I could use help first with Celebi if you accept, early thanks.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]13:30, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
:Yea I would love to help. Give me a list of what needs it and I will get on them as soon as I can.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 13:40, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

::Thank you :), the pages are these two:
::[[User:Animaltamer7/Fletchy]] & [[User:Animaltamer7/Celebi (Adventures)]]
::[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]13:47, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
:::I have not read the XY series yet so I don't know how much I can do for Fletchy but I will give it a shot. I will get to Celebi soon.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 13:50, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

== How? ==

How do you keep making those awesome articles? What's your inspiration? I keep seeing you adding well-detailed pages about characters. I'd love to be able to do as you do, what's your secret? :o [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 03:18, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
:Thank you for noticing my work first of all. My biggest inspiration is the fact that it has not been done yet even though there have been years where someone could have. Find something that you find interesting and research it some. Then add it to the page. Try expanding a page that's already made, it might be easier than starting from scratch.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 03:41, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
::No problem, I often read your work. :P The thing is, I feel that, except for undone pages, everything's been said, and if not, I do not possess the information that's missing. As for the wanted pages, I would gladly make some, as exemple, I wanted to make [[Tamarind]] page as requested on the Editor's Hub, but since the page is not created, I have no idea whatsoever of who that is, or where does it appears. :P [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 03:47, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
:::Well if you read the Adventures Manga most of the Pokemon's pages are not close to done. Check the chapter pages and the chapters themselves for information. I don't know too much about Tamarind though, sorry about that.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 03:53, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

==Help again==
Hey Rahl, can you help me make the summary for [[User:Animaltamer7/Sunbo]]. I've been trying to find time to help it (as you know by my help on wikias). I would appreciate it if you help, early thanks.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]10:02, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
:Yea I would love to help. I will get on it as soon as I can.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 17:46, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
::Didn't she appear in the Emerald Chapter as well?[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]13:44, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
:::I may have missed it but as far as I can tell no she did not.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 14:27, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
::::Just checked, and your right, I check on Serebii sometimes to make sure I didn't miss a chapter to organize the debut section of a pokemon's first appearance in the manga. Someone really needs to fix the Sunflora page.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]10:40, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
:::::Yea that does need done. I think the page is done if you are ready to ask for someone to mainspace it. Best of luck.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 12:45, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

== What was wrong what i said ==

Clemont's magneton was shown not to hesitate to attack his own trainer or shown to be happy to see him unlike Celmont's Magntie--[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 14:23, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
:There is nothing wrong with what you said. I just think the grammar could be better.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 14:36, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
::So can you please add it --[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 10:52, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

== This page needs you! :P ==

Hey, I know that you are a great writer and love the manga page, so I've come across [[Aibo|this page]] and thought that it needed your help for the personality and characteristics section.

Do you want me to contact you whenever I found a page like this one? Tell me! :P [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 19:22, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
:I was actually planning on getting to that one soon. I'm just finishing up Green's last two and then I am moving on to Gold. No need to tell me (though I don't mind) because I plan on getting to them all.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 21:14, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
::Okay! I just thought that you might miss some :P so that would make you kind of a checklist. :P [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 21:22, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

== Clemont's Dedenne ==
Sorry about reverting your edit on [[Clemont's Dedenne]], I messed up reading and read it backwards. Just saw the original editor you reverted fixed my screw-up. [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 01:25, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
:No harm done. --[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 01:38, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

== Legendary beasts ==
Hey Rahl, could you help me with the summary for the [[User:Animaltamer7/Legendary beasts (Adventures)|legendary beasts (adventures)]], early thanks.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]04:21, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
:I would love to help. I will get on it soon.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 16:26, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
::It looks good, thanks again for the help.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]03:43, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
:::Glad I could help.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 04:57, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

== Edit revert ==

Hi, can I ask why you [[Special:Diff/2442366/2442552|removed]] this piece of trivia from the ''Lights, Camera, Pika'' episode page ??? → [[User talk:PikaTepig999|PikaTepig999]] 11:37, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
:Because since Unova it has been common for Team Rocket to miss episodes. It is no longer a noteworthy thing.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 12:22, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
:Oh, I dint not know that since I've not watched the whole BW series. Thanks for your reply. → [[User talk:PikaTepig999|PikaTepig999]] 09:08, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

== Block ==

I have told you, multiple times, not to add moves that weren't used. As such, you have been blocked. Manga is a visual medium. If you cannot see a move being used, then you do not have the authority to add information about it to a page. Neither Quick Attack or Swift were actually used on panel. Even if you didn't know that, you still shouldn't have assumed they were used in the first place. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 16:35, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
:I only added the info to Swift and Quick Attack because it Veevee had Swift and Quick Attack mentioned. I had no idea that they were not used, I just added it for consistency. I would appreciate if I wasn't blocked over a mistake like that. --[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 17:12, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

== Arceus (Adventures) ==

Hey Rahl can you help me with [[User:Animaltamer7/Arceus (Adventures)|this]].[[User:Animaltamer7]]11:17, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
:Yea I would love to help. I don't know if this Pokémon had enough importance though for its own page. Ask an admin if it is worth it first and if they say yes I will start working on it.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 13:14, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

::I don't think that's necessary since Arceus is the main Legendary for the HGSS chapter.[[User:Animaltamer7]]13:09, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
:::Even though it is I don't know if it necessarily did much other than rampage.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 13:14, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
::::I asked Zesty and she said it was alright.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]08:02, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
:::::Alright I will get to it soon.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 12:22, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
::::::Thanks so much for your help again :) [[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]03:47, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
:::::::No problem. I'm always glad to help with this. Sorry it took me so long this time.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 13:44, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
::::::::No prob, I know people are busy with life and stuff.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]09:15, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

== Talk page comments ==

You've been here long enough to know that talk page comments are [[Bulbapedia:Talk page policy|not to be edited]], especially other users' comments. The only exception is if the talk page in question is linking to a red link showing up on the [[Special:WantedPages|wanted pages]] or to an [[a:Special:GloballyWantedFiles|image that doesn't exist]]. Fixing others' spelling errors is just silly—just leave the comment be. --[[User:Carmenstar97|Carmen★]] ''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|(Talk |]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|contribs)]]'' 19:53, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
:It slipped my mind. Sorry about that.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 22:41, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

== Genderless Pokémon ==

I saw that the anime's Pokémon's gender who were normally genderless in the games were changed to genderless in the infobox. Did you have a source stating that the Pokémon were confirmed to not have a gender as games=/=anime and {{OBP|Keldeo|M15}} being male proves that normally genderless Pokémon can be male or female? If I remember correctly, only [[Professor Oak's Rotom]] was stated to not have a gender instead of the other Pokémon. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 16:21, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
:Sorry I just assumed that they were Genderless since that is the only option for them. Like how the Forces of Nature are only male. I'll go around and get rid of what I did.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 17:07, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
::No problem, things happen. The male-only Pokémon were a separate story as the anime followed that game mechanic before. Thanks by the way for your uploads of Trainer and Pokémon images. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 17:26, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

== Blocked again. ==

OK. I have been patient. Too patient, it seems. You have been warned no less than four times on this very page about not adding moves that have not been called out. Despite these warnings and numerous reverts and image deletions, you have continued to do so. As such, you have been blocked for a second time for this. If you continue to ignore this warning again, it will be permanent. Now please, listen to what people ask of you. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 01:53, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

== Adding pictures. ==

Please, just because an image has been uploaded does not mean it needs to be added to an article immediately. I have spent the last few hours editing X's history section so I can add that image, because if I didn't, then the image would have no context towards it. After if there's no context, then the image shouldn't be there yet as it'll confuse people reading the article. In the future, assume that if a user uploads an image, that they are planning to use it somewhere. So it's not necessary to add it to the article before them. Thank you. {{unsigned|Ataro}} 20:54, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
:Alright sorry about that. If there is no context I'll refrain from adding an image from now on.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 21:04, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

== Linking to Ash's page ==

Please use {{template|Ash}}, not <code><nowiki>[[Ash]]</nowiki></code>. Thank you. --[[User:Carmenstar97|Carmen★]] ''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|(Talk |]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|contribs)]]'' 12:41, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

== Anime link: You're doing it wrong! ==

I see you're adding links to the Pokémon anime on each Pokémon's own page. A little tip: The article for the anime is "[[Pokémon anime]]", not just "anime". Please, use the {{template|pkmn}} template from now on, and, if you feel like it, fix the links you've already made. Thank you very much. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:08, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
:Could you give me an example on how to do that I'm a little confused about it. I will get to fixing it as soon as I know how.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 17:12, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
::Typing <code><nowiki>{{pkmn|anime}}</nowiki></code> will link you to [[Pokémon anime]] with the text <code>anime</code>. Please review the {{bp|list of link templates}}. You've been here more than long enough and should get the hang of at least our most basic ones by now. --[[User:Carmenstar97|Carmen★]] ''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|(Talk |]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|contribs)]]'' 19:02, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
:::This is a reminder to '''review the list of link templates'''. You [[Special:Diff/2515768|should not]] be linking to species articles with {{tt|square brackets|[[ ]]}}; instead, please use the {{template|p}} template. Similarly, to link to Ability articles please use the {{template|a}} template, and to link to move articles please use the {{template|m}} template. And a few other ones I've caught: to link to Ash's page, please use the {{template|Ash}} template, and to link to Gary's page, please use the {{template|Gary}} template. Please, please, ''please'' get the basic link templates down; take a good, long look at the {{bp|list of link templates}}. It will help you in the long run and save other people some time from having to run after and clean up your mistakes. Thank you. --[[User:Carmenstar97|Carmen★]] ''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|(Talk |]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|contribs)]]'' 19:29, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
::::I apologize for that. I normally do use those it was just a lapse in my memory and I don't plan on letting it happen again.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 19:55, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

== pokémon links ==

Hey, I saw what you were doing with the anime links, that's great, how about you start from the start (Bblbasaur) and I'll start from the end (Volcanion) and we add them until we meet up? Also, don't forget to add every instances of the anime links, and other anime, such as Pokémon Origins and Generations etc. Here's a tip! Ctrl + F and search for <code>File:</code> it should make it pretty faster. :P [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 19:42, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
:Yea if you want to. I'll get started right now, thanks for the help.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 19:44, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
::FYI, as a rule, a link only needs to be done once in a section. (At the same time, though, that's not to say that ''every'' section would necessarily need a link to the same page.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:35, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
:::Alright, I was just following what I saw done on Venusaur and Charizard's page. I'll only link it once from now on.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 20:36, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

==Adventures pokemon debut section==
Ok just so that an edit war won't start, I will compromise. I'm alright with putting the owner's name beside the pokemon if it's their pokemon that debuted as the first individual of a species whole. However the Adventures manga isn't like the main series anime, although yes they are both the longest in their form of media (anime and manga respectively), that doesn't mean they have the same debut section format. In addition the anime series goes on with a single main character, being Ash, that goes through each region seemingly without a consistent timeline (being that he's still 10 by BW series despite the obvious amount of time he should have aged a bit), while in Adventures they follow different main character(s) for each arc and there is a consistent timeline (each event actually confirmed with taking years or so between each arc).[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]12:57, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
:I'm fine with that. I'll undo the stuff I did.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 16:17, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

== Moon's Pokemon Template ==

Is it alright if I help edit Moon's Pokemon template? [[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]11:07, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
:Of course! Feel free to improve any of my pages.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 14:59, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

== Anime Pokemon nav templates ==

I'm gonna parrot {{u|Carmenstar97}}'s advice from another user's talk page here, but I think it's very reasonable advice: templates for anime characters' Pokémon should not be created unless at least two Pokémon belonging to that character have their own pages.

In the aired episodes, it seems like Lillie currently has ''no'' Pokemon with their own pages. Even giving you the benefit of the doubt with the Lillie's Vulpix page that was created, that's still only one. Therefore, I've moved the template you created to [[User:Rahl/Lillie's Pokémon]].

[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:31, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
:Thanks for the heads up. Sorry about that.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 21:44, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

== Creation trio help ==

Hey Rahl, since my computer is still in need of repair, I'm not able to add as much content to the articles on mobile where I'm better at the pc. So could you help me with my Creation trio page?[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]08:31, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
:Yea I will get to it soon.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 14:07, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

== Hoping Ataro reads this as I have no other way to contact him. ==

Ataro. Could you please explain to me why I am blocked. I was adding links to pages and had no idea that you would not approve of the pages. You could simply message me and say something like "those pages are not official/wanted/going to stay so stop editing them". As soon as I noticed I started to undo my edits to fix the mistakes I made. Blocking me for adding information that was there and needed links discourages me and others from editing. Hope to hear back from you.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 22:14, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
:You were blocked partially because I wanted to make sure I could revert all those edits before you or someone else added more. I did not see you reverting your edits until it was already too late. My apologies. Also, a word of warning: if you see someone like Pikablu make edits like that, don't just blindly add the pages to articles. Consult them with a higher up. I've already had to delete or revert some of Pikablu's earlier edits for similar rule-breaking. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 22:31, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
::I'm sorry about that. I'll make sure it's credible or ask an admin about stuff like that in the future. Also if I need to reach an admin while blocked how would I go about that?--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 22:41, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

== Rowlet is Moses ==

Why'd you remove this [[Special:Diff/2610873/next|trivia]], this parting-sea-thing looked totally like a reference to Moses' story!--[[User:Arisboch|Arisboch]] ([[User talk:Arisboch|talk]]) 02:10, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
:I don't think that was the point though, plus it was on the wrong episode.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 15:58, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
::Thanks for noticing, it was actually from the [[SM011|11th episode.]]--[[User:Arisboch|Arisboch]] ([[User talk:Arisboch|talk]]) 17:21, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

== Ho-Oh and Lugia picture ==

Hey Rahl, do you have a copy of the previous picture of [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:PS165.png|this image]], because it was used as the adventures pic of the Tower duo before you updated it.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]01:37, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
:I'm not sure what picture you are talking about. Do you have any other way to show me?--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 17:44, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
::This pic had Lugia and Ho-Oh before you updated it to have the round title. I'm asking if you had a copy of the previous version.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]09:12, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
[[File:PS165.png|thumb|200px]]
:::Just chiming in here, y'all — just go to that picture's page on the Archives, scroll to the history section at the very bottom, click on the thumbnail of the old version, and you'll get a full-res version of it. Then, you just have to save it to your computer, upload it as a new file, and change the image link on the Tower duo page. It's super simple. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 14:47, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

== Recreating deleted categories ==

I'm going to ask you to stop adding pages to [[:Category:Pokémon with anime move errors]] for now. When you were recreating the category, you likely have noticed that the category had previously been deleted. There was very likely a logical reason behind that decision, and the category should not have been recreated without discussion. In any case, even if we were to keep the category, the pages would be added to the category through the use of the {{template|anmov}} template, and not manually (which is not preferred if we can easily do it via a template). So for now, please stop adding pages to that category, and please verify whether the category is even needed with an administrator before continuing. Thank you. --[[User:Carmenstar97|Carmen★]] ''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|(Talk |]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|contribs)]]'' 17:51, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
:I'll stop immediately. If it is a problem feel free to remove what I did.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 17:52, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

==Re:Creation trio (Adventures)==
Well I was waiting for the whole mainspacing articles dilemma the editorial board was having, to be over with. Now since it seems to be over already, I'll try and ask now.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]01:27, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

== Dino's Pokémon ==

I see you undid my edit on Dino's page regarding his Pokémon and so, I decided to bring this up here, instead of undoing your edit (in order to avoid edit warring). The thing is, even if they are not important, and did not even make a physical appearance, the Pokémon are all well categorized and are different species of Pokémon, and hence, by Bulbapedia's standards, must be listed separately on a character's page. [[User:Harryghost|Harryghost]] ([[User talk:Harryghost|talk]]) 17:03, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
:My apologizes, they should all be shown. However, its still taking up a lot of space to put them all like that. I've changed it so they are all shown but in a way that's more compressed.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 17:21, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
I saw your edit and I feel it looks perfect, better than I was thinking myself. Thank you! [[User:Harryghost|Harryghost]] ([[User talk:Harryghost|talk]]) 03:28, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

== Captions ==

I don't know how many more pages there even are that you could still edit, but I would suggest that changing things like "Nando and Roserade" to "Roserade and Nando" are pretty pointless edits, at least when that's all you're doing and you're doing it so widely. (Even "Nando and his Roserade" isn't at all enough of a problem to "require" a change or anything.) If you're editing one of these pages for other reasons, you're welcome to "fix" the order of such captions if you want, but if that's all you have to edit, can you maybe refrain? Like I said, it's really not that bad. Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:58, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
:I'll try to avoid doing it unless I have another reason to edit the page.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 23:24, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

== Please wait. ==

If it would be so kind, could you not immediately begin editing the articles when the scans of PokeSPedia are being posted. I am trying to actually translate the Abilities and natures and it is incredibly frustrating seeing levels added and nothing else, especially since it forces me to open a new tab and replace your edit with what I was typing. In the end, all you're doing is making more work. Thank you. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 01:41, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
:Sorry about that. I'll stop.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 01:43, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

== Genders in the anime ==

Since you apparently did not read the edit summary that was at the top of the history of ''all'' the articles you just added genders to, let me repeat: Per Tiddlywinks on [[User talk:Master Lucario#Gender in the anime]], costumes are not proof of gender unless the episode explicitly states that the costumes indicate gender. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 22:35, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

== Adventures articles ==

While I appreciate you creating articles about Pokémon in the Pokémon Adventures manga, I must say that the articles you've created have many faults that take up other users', including my, time to fix. I'll list some of those problems for you here: 
1) Inconsistent tenses. 
2) Redirect links. 
3) Excessive use of the word "then". 
4) Grammatical errors. 
So, in the future, I request that you either avoid making these mistakes, or ask someone's help in fixing them ''before'' mainspacing the article. Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:05, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
:No problem and thanks for letting me know. I know I'm not the best writer. Feel free to look at any of the pages I have on my page right now and improve them.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 19:29, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

==Gladion's Umbreon==
Just to say thanks for your help with my Gladion's Umbreon page.
:No problem, glad to help.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 14:30, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

== Something to know ==

A couple things I'd like to say about your edits today: 
1) The actual links for Pokémon Adventures chapters are formatted as "X chapter (Adventures)", not just "X chapter". 
2) Try avoid having black edges on your uploaded pictures, such as [[:File:Blacephalon Flame Burst Adventures.png|this]]. 
3) Anabel's Mismagius used {{m|Phantom Force}}, not {{m|Shadow Force}}. The latter is a signature move of Giratina. The translator must've just gotten the two mixed up. 
--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:08, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
:Ah sorry about that error and the image. I didn't even notice the translation error there, good catch.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 08:10, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

== Ash's friends ==

Just so we don't start any edit wars, why did you remove Seaking and the Ultra Beasts from [[Ash's friends]]? Seaking was caught by Misty in [[EP168]], but immediately released afterwards. Not notable enough for its own page, sure, but it was definitely caught by her. Cilan did something similar, catching a Basculin in [[BW037]] just to release it. The Ultra Beasts are under the same rules, caught Pokémon to be released back into their natural habitats. [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] ([[User talk:Iml908|talk]]) 03:32, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
:Someone else added the Ultra Beasts to the template earlier, and this is the response they got from an admin. "The Ultra Beasts the characters caught were only owned for less than an episode, they don't count and shouldn't be added to the released section, they belong to the temporary section. The released section is only for Pokémon they've owned for a prolonged period of time."--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 04:29, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
::Okay then. So, should Cilan's Basculin be removed as well? And what about the Lana's Lapras and Kiawe's Charizard, since they are only Ride Pokémon? [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] ([[User talk:Iml908|talk]]) 13:47, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
:::I forgot about Basculin, it probably should as well. Lapras and Charizard are owned by them, and Charizard even stays in Kiawe's party. I think this is just talking about only owned for one episode kind of Pokémon.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 14:09, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

== Sweet Scent ==

I deeply apologize, but I just [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Mallow%27s_Tsareena&curid=218747&diff=2827081&oldid=2827080 undid] your edit on [[Mallow's Tsareena]]'s page. I personally agree with you, but for some odd reason, {{user|Playerking95}} seems to somewhat disagree with this, calling it "speculation". I already started a discussion on the subject on his talk page, so feel free to voice your opinions on the matter there. I would've left your edit untouched otherwise, but I tried readding the info there myself earlier today, only to have my edit [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Mallow%27s_Tsareena&curid=218747&diff=2827038&oldid=2826992 undone] by a higher-up user. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:44, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
:Ah, had no idea there was a thing going on with it. Thanks for letting me know.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 13:57, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

==Thanks==
Thanks for your contributions to Gladion's Umbreon page, I appreciate it. Hopefully soon, it will become another mainspace article.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 12:57, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
:Happy to help! I'd like to see all of Gladion's Pokémon get a page, I think they've all done enough and will likely do more in the future.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 13:02, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
::Well I've asked Abcboy to have another look when he gets the chance and his earlier feedback looked positive so with any luck, it won't be long.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 13:06, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
:::That's great to hear! Maybe ask about Lycanroc as well? It would be nice to get them both at once.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 13:08, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
::::Will do, you wouldn't mind also having a look over this other page which maybe close to being mainspaced as well, [[User:BigDocFan/Oranguru_(anime)]]--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 13:18, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::I'll look it over.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 13:19, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
:Good news is that Oranguru got mainspaced, abcboy is just waiting to hear back on Lycanroc and Umbreon.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 06:54, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
::That's great to hear!--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 11:51, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
:Was wondering if you're up for it and get a chance, you could also help contribute to [[User:BigDocFan/Professor Kukui's Incineroar]] [[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 17:38, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
::Absolutely! You might want to link it correctly correctly next time though, I had to go to your page to find it.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 17:42, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
:::My bad, always forget how to correctly link my own pages--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 17:51, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
::::I gave it my best. You did pretty good with it. I wouldn't expect to get a page from this one yet. It's only shown up twice so far.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 18:16, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::Thanks. I'm pretty confident that Incineroar will turn up again at some point, thought I would create the basic page and fill it in ready for when the time comes.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 18:20, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

== Kiawe's Turtonator ==

Hey just a heads up, Charizard appeared before Turtonator did in SM001. So Charizard ''does'' go before Turtonator. ☼ Blazing[[User talk:Blazingfist|Fist ☼]] 16:18, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
:Oh, I'm sorry. I assumed that since Turtonator was owned first and they both appeared in the first episode that it could be moved around. I'll change back what I was doing.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 16:19, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
::We don't know which he owned first, in which case the Pokémon that appeared first gets listed first. Charizard appeared first as Ash saw it and Kiawe fly overhead when he was lost in the forest in SM001. ☼ Blazing[[User talk:Blazingfist|Fist ☼]] 16:21, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

==Hey==
Hope I don't become annoying by turning to you for help with possible mainspace articles but could you have a look at [[User:BigDocFan/Matori%27s_Meowth]] and see if you can add anything. You've been a great help with getting previous articles mainspaced.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 07:47, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
:Not a problem. I just looked it over. --[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 13:10, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
::Thanks, as with Incineroar, it probably isn't notable enough for its own page but it is possible in future, it will be notable.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 14:22, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
:::Let's hope so.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 14:31, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Hope you don't mind helping out with my newest page, [[User:BigDocFan/Professor_Kukui%27s_Braviary]], as with the previous two, not notable enough at present but could be notable enough in future.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 18:19, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
:I've looked it over. You'll have to fix the games section though. I tried for a while but its too complicated for me to get right. Incineroar also needs it's battle tree section added.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 02:53, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
Managed to sort the games section out, really pleased with my contributions to Bulbapedia.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 15:55, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

==Hau's Dartrix==
Slightly confused by your reent edit to Hau's Dartrix. Would you mind explaining.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 16:56, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
:Sorry about that. I assume it's being made in preparation for the one showing up in the anime. As of right now we don't know if it will show up as a Rowlet, so I hid that information. Feel free to undo it if I made the wrong assumption.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 17:00, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
::I see you're point, keep it hidden until it shows up as it might just be Dartrix.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 17:01, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

== Surf ==

Don't just roll with every edit a user does and not question it. Surf was obviously not stated in the episode and it could've just been the Pokémon swimming. Thank you.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:35, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
:Sorry about that, I'll take a closer look next time a move is added.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 12:50, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

== Mainspacing your pages ==

Hey, just a quick question, why aren't you mainspacing your Pokemon Adventure's Pokemon pages? They are really good and have enough content for mainspacing, I think.--[[User:Yaronos|Yaronos]] ([[User talk:Yaronos|talk]]) 20:05, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you for thinking so, but it is up to Ataro. He is in charge of mainspacing articles for the manga. I'm pretty sure most have been shot down, but feel free to ask. Maybe they deserve a second look.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 20:16, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

== SM084 ==

Obnoxious linking is not how thing are done as I said. Things like that are often undone my admins. If that's how it's done, don't undo the edit or find a way to improve it. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 02:30, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

== Leaf / Unused Counterpart ==

Sorry just seemed a bit unnecessary to have another link to the unused counterpart when that counterpart is Leaf anyway.--[[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 20:29, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
:It's no problem. Maybe it should be trivia related instead of mentioned there.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 21:16, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

== Leaf / Unused Counterpart ==
Thanks for The help on the Bang The Drum Slowbro Thing. :)
:You're welcome!--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 14:14, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

== Pages ==
Hey, I have made two pages with my username. They are named [[User:Seabiscuit2020/Sandbox/Aura trio (Adventures)]] and [[User:Seabiscuit2020/Sandbox/Light trio (Adventures)]] Feel free to edit them. [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 06:50 25 November 2018 (UTC)
:Thanks for letting me know! I'll look at them soon.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 23:11, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

== Kiawe's Charizard ==

Could you wait until the page has been approved and moved before adding those major events? Have patience.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:40, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
:Sure thing. Sorry about that.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 04:02, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

== Gender pronouns ==

While I'm okay with your idea of adding gender pronouns to replace "it" in anime move descriptions, may I suggest you that such a treatment should also be given to the manga descriptions? Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:14, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
:I planned on getting to that, just need to take a break after doing that non-stop for over an hour.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 20:17, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
::Understandable. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 21:27, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

== Nanu's Persian ==

You wanna help me with my [[User:Seabiscuit2020/Nanu's Persian]] project? [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 22:58, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
:Yeah, are you looking for help on a particular part?--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 02:04, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

== Mina's Ribombee ==

You wanna help me with my [[User:Seabiscuit2020/Mina's Ribombee]] project? [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 21:28, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
:Sure thing!--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 21:41, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
::I can't see much to add at present but I love how everyone at Bulbapedia helps others get pages mainspaced--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 21:55, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
:::Me too! It's a community after all.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 21:56, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

==Ida's Primarina==
Was wondering if you could give me a hand with [[User:BigDocFan/Ida's Primarina]] please?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:00, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
:It didn't look like there was much to add, but I made a few updates.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 11:42, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks for your help, probably not notable enough right now for mainspacing but hopefully it will return in future episodes.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 13:25, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
:::I imagine it will.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 13:26, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

==Brave Cannon==

Can you upload an image of Ash's Rowlet and Meltan using Brave Cannon in SM118? It's a combination of Flash Cannon and Brave Bird. [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 19:51, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
:It's been done.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 19:57, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

==Grandpa Forest==
Sorry to keep disturbing you, was wondering if you could assist with [[User:BigDocFan/Grandpa Forest]]--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 12:18, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
:I made some tweaks, but it looks pretty good already.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 14:18, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 15:26, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

== Professor Kukui's Lycanroc ==

Kukui's Rockruff appeared in the [[Pokémon Masters Trailer]], but as a Lycanroc. Check out the video for yourself. What are we supposed to do with that information? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:30, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
:Put it on Kukui's page like Rosa's Snivy or Erika's Vileplume. Ash's Lycanroc's page only cover Kuiku's Rockruff since he only had it in that stage. That's why you don't see any of the Lycanroc battles that take place in the games.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 23:33, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
::Okay. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:10, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

== Abilities ==

This is something I've wanted to bring up for a while now: last summer, you added Pokémon Adventures Abilities to each Ability page. However, just saying "<Pokémon> was revealed to have X as its Ability" without context from which the confirmation came from looks awkward. In case the Ability was confirmed by some other way than it being mentioned somewhere, it would be more grammatically correct to just say "<Pokémon> has X as its Ability". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:41, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
:That does make more sense. I was just trying to keep the wording the same but feel free to change it to what you said.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 12:39, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

== Team Rocket's Meowth a recurring wild Pokémon? ==

I have to strongly disagree with this stance because Meowth is pretty much a main character, not a recurring one, plus he belongs to the Team Rocket organization. What's your rationale for this? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:03, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
:Personally, I would take it up with the one that started this, I just saw it added and put in a link. Though I do agree that he is part of that category because A) he is a wild Pokémon, which has been proven a few times and B) he showed up in more than one episode. That is what the page is for. Also, every character but Ash and Pikachu can be considered recurring because they don't show up in every episode. The TRT are main characters, yes, but since Unova they've also become recurring ones.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 00:11, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
::What do you mean "you saw it added"? Do you mean [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Meowth_%28Team_Rocket%29&type=revision&diff=3106074&oldid=3077188 this]? Also, while A sounds reasonable, one can't be both a main character and a recurring one. Which one is it supposed to be? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:21, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that along with the edit to the recurring page itself. To me it makes sense because Meowth is wild and showed up in more than an episode but you make a good point. I would ask an admin for a ruling on it because I could see both sides.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 00:46, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

== [[Go's Scyther]] edit ==

Hey! I'm going to have to remind you to use the <nowiki>{{p}}</nowiki> template whenever linking to Pokémon articles. Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:39, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
:Sorry about that, not sure how that slipped my mind.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 11:15, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

== Genders, yet again ==

Please '''do not''' assume genders. Unless the gender was stated or the Pokemon was hit by attract/cute charm. Neither of those happened for Raichu. We can't use gender differences for Raichu as Raichu (as a species) existed before gender differences were a thing and a female variant has not yet appeared in the anime (despite a female Raichu having already appeared post Gen IV). This will be your only warning about this, as you have been here for a long time and really should know better. Any further assumptions made will have consequences, as I am tired of having to say all this to an ''experienced'' user. Thank you.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:31, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

==Mew (anime)==
I've started work on a [[User:BigDocFan/Mew (anime)|page]] for Mew, was wondering if you could lend a hand.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 19:31, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

== Raboot appearances ==

You unhid Raboot's appearances in SS024 and SS025, even though I don't recall we've received verification of it appearing in said episodes. What's your source? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:21, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
:No source, just common sense. It's a walking Pokemon that has appeared in every episode since its introduction and is one of the main characters of this series. It's similar to how we would put Clemont's Dedenne as appearing in XY or Iris's Axew in BW.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 18:24, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
::Raboot has the possibility of evolving, among others. Bulbapedia doesn't consider Raboot appearing in an episode being a certainty. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:40, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

== Genesect ==

May I ask where was it stated that both Blake and Colress's Genesect left them? I skimmed through the chapter again, and unless I missed something, they weren't in the last bit. Yes, the two lights were most likely them (I assumed they were the dragons), but I'd like something more concrete. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 16:41, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
:I assume it's because Genesect isn't seen in the final shot with Blake and all of his other Pokémon. But if that's the case, I wouldn't really count it as solid evidence. The streaks in the sky were definitely just the two dragons flying off. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:08, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
::I asked the creator for confirmation [[https://twitter.com/satoshi_swalot/status/1252395301861601280]]. It was the dragons.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 11:44, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
:::You can contact the creator? Can you ask them what the Red Genesect's Techno Blast's type was while Colress battled Blake? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:18, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
::::I can, but he doesn't answer often and I don't want to bombard him with questions.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 13:09, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::I figured as much. And therefore, I'm not planning on asking more questions from him after this. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:23, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

== Recent Pokespe fandom issue ==

Hey so I saw your post on Ataro's talkpage, so what happened recently is a long time translator did something horrible, it's better if you see this [https://pokespeblog.tumblr.com/post/622389421725155328/i-need-to-talk-about-something post] to know more about it.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]] ([[User talk:Animaltamer7|talk]]) 15:31, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
:Wow. This is bad, but I'm happy something is being done about it. Thanks for informing me.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 15:42, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
::No problem. [[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]] ([[User talk:Animaltamer7|talk]]) 15:47, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

==Team Rocket's Secret Base==
Was wondering if you could give me a hand with [[User:BigDocFan/Team Rocket's Secret Base]] please--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 14:23, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
:Sure thing.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 14:45, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

== Why was I wrong ==

It was we seen the show --Gian9456 01:15, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
:Are you referring to the Farfetch'd edit? It didn't have anything to do with the accuracy, it was because the grammar was wrong. I didn't know how to fix it up and I figured it would be better to not have it at all. Sorry.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 01:20, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

I was saying Farfetch'd proven to be more resilient as it was stated by that Trainer of Girder. It took heavy blows but still gotten up to battle further.--Gian9456 01:24, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

== Wikstrom's Scizor ==

The article now also has info of Wikstrom's Scizor from the games, so the redirect should lead there. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:58, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
:If you really think so but I think that is a misdirect. The page is for Goh's Scizor, not Wikstrom's. Him owning it for a few minutes doesn't make it his primary Scizor or the one people will think of.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 17:00, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
::Whether it's his primary Scizor or not doesn't matter. It only matters that it was a Scizor belonging to him. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
:::Wait. I completely forgot he even had one in the anime in the first place... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:07, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
::::Yeah, the fact he has a different Scizor is my issue with it. If it was the only one than of course it should redirect there but with the other one I feel the main one should be the link.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 17:11, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

== Image quality ==

A good quality version of today's episode will surface soon enough. Please avoid uploading poor quality images in the meantime. Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:29, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
:Didn't you already say something about this on the Archives?--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 16:25, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

== Ash Dragonite ==

Ash's Dragonite encounters Iris's Dragnoite, who had a personality completely opposed to the others of their kind. Dragonite has shown its apprehension in battling against the terrifying Dragonite. Although Dragonite was ready to put his hesitation as a sideline to do his best to win the battle for Ash.

what the issue u didn't explain. You cant delete without explanation. why what wrong with it. Don't JUST SAY GRAMMER. LIKE WHAT ABOUT IT. where you see the mistakes in it. How can I improve it. You need to explain --Gian9456 02:44, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

:Your grammar isn't good, try to get better at your grammar instead of wanting others to fix your summaries.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]] ([[User talk:Animaltamer7|talk]]) 02:49, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

where the mistakes.
you didnt answer at all. you just repeat what i was saying. I don't understand you have tome to say it.--Gian9456 02:52, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

== Why aren't you explaining your edits ==

Rahl, you appear to have a habit of undoing edits and removing information without explaining. Could you please provide a reason for the change in your edit summaries, like for example why did you remove the information from Ash's Unfezant, you provided no reason, so as I result I undid your edit and explained why I undid yours, Many thanks [[User:ポッチャマ|ポッチャマ]] ([[User talk:ポッチャマ|talk]]) 00:06, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
:GIVE AN ANSWER!!!!!!![[User:ポッチャマ|ポッチャマ]] ([[User talk:ポッチャマ|talk]]) 20:08, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

== Notable major event ==

I think Chloe meeting Matori for the first time is notable enough. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 23:47, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
:Neither of them are main characters. Would it be worth noting if Professor Cerise met her? I really don't think so.[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 23:54, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
::Chloe first meeting Jessie and James was considered notable enough, so why not this too? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 00:03, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
:::Because that was Jessie and James meeting her. They made it important enough.[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 00:04, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

== Non-existent images ==

Please do not add links to images that don't exist yet. Wait for them to be uploaded first. Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:22, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
:Red links are not evil. The pictures will come.[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 12:38, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

== Hail (weather condition) ==

Why did you put an anime screenshot on [[Hail (weather condition)|this page]], which is about the core series games? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/Sumwun|contribs]]) 14:58, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
:Because sun, rain, and sandstorm have one there as well.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 15:07, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

== Journeys manga ==

The first translated version of the Journeys manga was released last month. Could you help add titles of the translated chapter titles to the appropriate links around Bulbapedia? I've already added them to the chapter articles several other articles. Also, when the manga's title was translated from "Pocket Monsters" to "Pokémon Journeys: The Series'", many section titles were left in an alphabetically incorrect order. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:28, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
:Do you know where I can find the manga?--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 11:20, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
::The chapter titles are visible on volume 1's article. The manga's article is "Pokémon Journeys: The Series (manga)". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:31, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
:::The second volume is out now, and I've added the chapter titles to the volume's article and the respective chapter articles, plus several other pages. Can you help with the rest? PS. Don't forget about reordering the manga section titles if necessary. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:56, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
::::I'll try but I'm going to wait until I can read it and a quick search online didn't bring up any results for it. Any idea where I can find it? --[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 17:07, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

== Manual revert ==

Hey, just thought I'd let you know by [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=EP086&diff=prev&oldid=3542504 manually removing] the trivia that L.Z. added to EP086, the other changes I had made were still left reverted. It probably would have been better to just use the {{tt|undo button|This way, you'd still be able to remove that extra space that you had removed in the same edit, without inadvertently leaving the changes I had made undone}}. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 03:07, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

== Reversions ==

When reverting an edit or an image, please be sure to include the reasoning behind the reversion in the edit summary. Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:02, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

== Episodes in which an alternately colored Pokémon appears ==
Hi. If you don't mind, could you tell me which were the Pokémon that made you add this category to a good chunk of episodes? Thanks.{{unsigned|Ricbolog1310}}
:Ash's Meltan, Ash's Gengar, and Z2 were the majority of the edits. --[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 12:37, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
:: Ok, thanks for the answer.--[[User:Ricbolog1310|Ricbolog1310]] ([[User talk:Ricbolog1310|talk]]) 14:05, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

== Leon's Charmander moves ==

Hi, I uploaded Leon's Charmander moves that were shown in today's episode. As you are the person who updates the page the most, I thought it would be useful to let you know.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 15:49, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
:Thank you --[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 15:51, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

== After the story images ==

I think the image text should read "The "After the story" artwork for this episode" instead of "The After the story segment for this episode", both to differentiate the "After the story" segment of the text from the rest of the sentence, and also because it's not really a segment of the episode. Can you help edit that? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:45, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
:That's a good suggestion. I'll start changing them now. --[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 11:37, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

== The Starmobiles aren't the same as regular Revavroom ==

When i said "non-Pokémon opponents" i didn't mean Revavroom isn't a Pokémon; i mean that ''Starmobiles'' aren't Pokémon. Yes they use the name "Revavroom" in battle texts, but they are still named Starmobiles in their HP bars and have different internal data structures (apparently, according to someone on the Bulbagarden Discord). That's why i tried moving your edits into separate Starmobile headings.

And like i said, non-Pokémon opponents do not count against signature Abilities/moves. Majin has {{a|Wonder Guard}} but that page still mentions it as being signature to Shedinja, for example. [[User:Anzasquiddles|Anzasquiddles]] ([[User talk:Anzasquiddles|talk]]) 21:25, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
:Ah, my bad. I was looking at it the wrong way. --[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 21:28, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

== Major events images ==

Major events images are always 220px. I am trying to keep the size consistent. I hope you understand. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:40, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
:Sorry about that; I didn't notice your edit summary. Thanks for letting me know. [[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 14:24, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

== Darkest Lariat ==
I see you've added the image showing Ash's Incineroar using Darkest Lariat onto the move page, seeing as the anime has 3 images from Journeys with two of them being Incineroar, I don't feel the image is needed on there.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]], Junior Admin Bulbapedia ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 12:08, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
:It might not but there is space for it so I don't see the harm in showing both. --[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 12:43, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

== Small favor ==

Hey there! Since you are going through the [[:Category:Cards by Pokémon]] pages to add in links, do you mind padding out the national dex numbers in the opening prev/next template to 4 digits at the same time? ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 15:55, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
:Good idea. I'll start doing that as well. --[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 15:56, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

==Captain Pikachu==
I've started work on a [[User:BigDocFan/Captain Pikachu|page]] for Captain Pikachu and was wondering if you wanted to help me get it ready for possible mainspace in the future.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]], Junior Admin Bulbapedia ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 15:09, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
:I'll take a look. --[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 17:22, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

== Section order ==

"References" is supposed to be below "Related articles", from what I've seen. It's that way on Pokémon species articles, at least. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:12, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
:The References cut into the Related articles and make it look like templates are part of the References section. It looked misleading.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 16:40, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

== Ash's Lycanroc ==
Could you explain why you keep removing information from Ash's Lycanroc?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]], Junior Admin Bulbapedia ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 22:39, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
:I don't think Lycanroc needs a second infobox for the game appearances. That usually only happens with a major role like Nebby--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 14:35, 20 August 2023 (UTC).

== Edit warring ==

Hi! Regarding [[Ash's Lycanroc]], as a longtime editor, I know that you are aware that repeatedly removing content without explanation, or [[Bulbapedia:Blocking policy#Edit/revert wars|edit warring]], is against the {{bp|code of conduct}} and will not be tolerated. Please, use talk pages to sort these things out, and if you feel info needs to be removed from an article, at least include an edit summary to explain why you think so. If someone disagrees, again, take it to the talk page. If an agreement cannot be reached, you can always bring the issue to a [[staff]] member.

We will be making an annoucement regarding the status of the page soon. We appreciate your patience. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me or another [[staff]] member. Thank you. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 03:03, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

== Noland's Articuno ==
I'm sensing a possible edit war on Noland's Articuno regarding images that are being added or removed. To avoid an edit war taking place, could you use the discussion page to suggest which image should be used.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]], Junior Admin Bulbapedia ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:55, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

== Bug Bite BW023 ==
You say Bug Bite was used in BW023, when was this used?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]], Junior Admin Bulbapedia ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 20:30, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
:It was used by Sewaddle against Whirlipede a few times during the gym battle. Check [[BW023]] and search for Bug Bite and you'll find it in the plot summary.[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 20:37, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
::Forgot it was used there, haven't seen the episode in years. My bad. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 21:36, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
:::All good.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 21:37, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

== Penny's Trivia - Similarities to Peonia ==

Hi! I noticed that the piece of trivia surrounding Penny's similarities to Peonia was removed without explanation. ([https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Penny&diff=prev&oldid=3727077 revision]) 
I didn't add this in, but in December 2022 I remember seeing some discussions on [https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonScarletViolet/comments/zbqnzo/scarletviolet_theory_pennys_father_is/ r/PokemonScarletViolet] about these similarities, and the edit was made around that time. (edit [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Penny&diff=prev&oldid=3629348 diff]) 
I understand that these connections between Penny and Peonia are very superficial; but considering both are core series game characters only 1 generation apart, their similar name etymologies and the fact that they hail from the same region (Galar) make it seem less of a coincidence imo. I'm curious about your thoughts on this though! Cheers
--[[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 11:09, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Heath (Ranger)

2023-08-13T05:19:56Z

DecafSnorlax: /* Suggestion for "Heath (Paldea)" */ new section

== Well ==

I hate those English vs. Japanese disambigs. We don't refer to characters by Japanese names here, so I think that it would be much more relevant that when Heath (Dim Sun Admin) gets his article, the article is named "Heath" with that "if you were looking..." notice on the top. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:52, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

== Suggestion for "Heath (Paldea)" ==

To avoid confusion with Heath from Scarlet & Violet, a hatnote should be added that links to his article.
Imo it would be good to create a new separate article dedicated to him, considering how integral he is to the story & lore of SV.
I suggest the page name "Heath" be transferred to his new page, while this one could be renamed "Heath (Almia)". Alternatively, the new page could just be called "[[Heath (Paldea)]]" (I think a core series character should take priority though.)
That Heath could also be linked on the disambiguation page "[[Heather]]"; the translation of his Japanese name ヘザー --[[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 05:19, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Carmine

2023-02-28T07:35:35Z

DecafSnorlax:

== Name origin ==
Hi all, I'd like to suggest the etymologies for Carmine's names in Japanese and English: Zeiyu (ゼイユ) comes from the French word "groseille" (katakana: グロゼイユ ''gurozeiyu''), which means redcurrant. And of course carmine is a deep red colour pigment.
I will discuss Kieran's etymology in his talk page as well.
Cheers!
--[[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 06:15, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Kieran

2023-02-28T07:35:01Z

DecafSnorlax: /* Intro */

== Name origin ==
Kieran's Japanese name, Suguri (スグリ) is the Japanese word for currant or gooseberry (it is the term for the genus ''Ribes''). Due to Kieran's violet theming it may be specifically referring to blackcurrant (クロスグリ, kurosuguri), which has a distinct purple color.
Kieran (in English) probably comes from the word "currant"?
--[[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 06:36, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Kieran

2023-02-28T07:31:49Z

DecafSnorlax: NPC box color violet

{{CharInfobox|
color={{violet color}}
|corecolor={{violet color light}}
|bordercolor={{violet color dark}}
|name=Kieran
|jname=スグリ
|tmname=Suguri
|image=Scarlet Violet Kieran.png
|size=150px
|caption=Artwork from Scarlet and Violet DLC
|gender=Male
|hometown=[[Kitakami]]
|region=Unknown
|relatives=[[Carmine]] (Older Sister)
|colors=yes
|eyes=Yellow
|hair=Black (purple highlights inside)
|trainer=yes
|trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]]
|game=yes
|generation={{Gen|IX}}
|games={{pkmn|Scarlet and Violet}}
}}

'''Kieran''' (Japanese: '''スグリ''' ''Suguri'') is a new character introduced in [[The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero]]. He has a quiet, gentle nature, and he often hides behind his big sister, It seems he’s curious about the player, though, when they arrive from the Paldea region.<ref>https://scarletviolet.pokemon.com/en-us/news/new_characters/</ref>



==Artwork==
{| style="margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{violet color dark}}; background: #{{violet color}}; font-size:80%"
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{violet color dark}}; background: #{{violet color light}}; width:100px; height:150px"| [[File:The Teal Mask key art.png|x150px]]
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{violet color dark}}; background: #{{violet color light}}; width:100px; height:150px"| [[File:The Indigo Disk key art.png|x150px]]
|-
| {{color2|000|The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero|The Teal Mask}} Key Artwork
| {{color2|000|The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero|The Indigo Disk}} Key Artwork
|}



==Trivia==
*Kieran's dyed portion under his hair represents [[Pokémon Violet]].

==Names==
{| class="roundtable" style="background:#{{violet color light}}; border:3px solid #{{violet color dark}}"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|-
| Japanese
| スグリ ''Suguri''
| From 酸塊 ''suguri'' ({{wp|Ribes|currant}})
|-
| English
| Kieran
| From ''currant''
|-
| German
| Jo
| From ''Johannisbeere'' (currant)
|-
| Spanish
| Cass
| From ''cassis'' ({{wp|blackcurrant}})
|-
| French
| Kassis
| From ''cassis'' (blackcurrant)
|-
| Italian
| Riben
| From ''{{wp|Ribes}}'' (genus containing the currant)
|-
| Korean
| 카지 ''Kaji''
| From 까치밥나무 ''kkachibamnamu'' (currant)
|-
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and Mainland China}})
| 烏栗 / 乌栗 ''Wūlì''
| rowspan="2" | From 烏 / 乌 ''wū'' (black) and 醋栗 ''cùlì / chouleuht'' (currant)
|-
| Chinese ({{tt|Cantonese|Hong Kong}})
| 烏栗 ''Wūleuht''
|}
{{-}}
==References==
<references/>

{{-}}
{{NPC|violet|Paldea|paldea=yes}} 
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}

[[Category:Scarlet and Violet characters]]

[[de:Jo]]
[[es:Corin]]
[[fr:Kassis]]
[[it:Riben]]
[[ja:スグリ]]
[[zh:烏栗]]

Kieran

2023-02-28T07:23:12Z

DecafSnorlax: /* Artwork */ infobox color to violet

{{CharInfobox|
color={{violet color}}
|corecolor={{violet color light}}
|bordercolor={{violet color dark}}
|name=Kieran
|jname=スグリ
|tmname=Suguri
|image=Scarlet Violet Kieran.png
|size=150px
|caption=Artwork from Scarlet and Violet DLC
|gender=Male
|hometown=[[Kitakami]]
|region=Unknown
|relatives=[[Carmine]] (Older Sister)
|colors=yes
|eyes=Yellow
|hair=Black (purple highlights inside)
|trainer=yes
|trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]]
|game=yes
|generation={{Gen|IX}}
|games={{pkmn|Scarlet and Violet}}
}}

'''Kieran''' (Japanese: '''スグリ''' ''Suguri'') is a new character introduced in [[The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero]]. He has a quiet, gentle nature, and he often hides behind his big sister, It seems he’s curious about the player, though, when they arrive from the Paldea region.<ref>https://scarletviolet.pokemon.com/en-us/news/new_characters/</ref>



==Artwork==
{| style="margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{violet color dark}}; background: #{{violet color}}; font-size:80%"
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{violet color dark}}; background: #{{violet color light}}; width:100px; height:150px"| [[File:The Teal Mask key art.png|x150px]]
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{violet color dark}}; background: #{{violet color light}}; width:100px; height:150px"| [[File:The Indigo Disk key art.png|x150px]]
|-
| {{color2|000|The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero|The Teal Mask}} Key Artwork
| {{color2|000|The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero|The Indigo Disk}} Key Artwork
|}



==Trivia==
*Kieran's dyed portion under his hair represents [[Pokémon Violet]].

==Names==
{| class="roundtable" style="background:#{{violet color light}}; border:3px solid #{{violet color dark}}"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|-
| Japanese
| スグリ ''Suguri''
| From 酸塊 ''suguri'' ({{wp|Ribes|currant}})
|-
| English
| Kieran
| From ''currant''
|-
| German
| Jo
| From ''Johannisbeere'' (currant)
|-
| Spanish
| Cass
| From ''cassis'' ({{wp|blackcurrant}})
|-
| French
| Kassis
| From ''cassis'' (blackcurrant)
|-
| Italian
| Riben
| From ''{{wp|Ribes}}'' (genus containing the currant)
|-
| Korean
| 카지 ''Kaji''
| From 까치밥나무 ''kkachibamnamu'' (currant)
|-
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and Mainland China}})
| 烏栗 / 乌栗 ''Wūlì''
| rowspan="2" | From 烏 / 乌 ''wū'' (black) and 醋栗 ''cùlì / chouleuht'' (currant)
|-
| Chinese ({{tt|Cantonese|Hong Kong}})
| 烏栗 ''Wūleuht''
|}
{{-}}
==References==
<references/>

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{{NPC|Paldea|paldea=yes}} 
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[[de:Jo]]
[[es:Corin]]
[[fr:Kassis]]
[[it:Riben]]
[[ja:スグリ]]
[[zh:烏栗]]

Kieran

2023-02-28T07:22:10Z

DecafSnorlax: Changed infobox color to violet to match his blackcurrant theme, to complement his sister Carmine's scarlet infobox

{{CharInfobox|
color={{violet color}}
|corecolor={{violet color light}}
|bordercolor={{violet color dark}}
|name=Kieran
|jname=スグリ
|tmname=Suguri
|image=Scarlet Violet Kieran.png
|size=150px
|caption=Artwork from Scarlet and Violet DLC
|gender=Male
|hometown=[[Kitakami]]
|region=Unknown
|relatives=[[Carmine]] (Older Sister)
|colors=yes
|eyes=Yellow
|hair=Black (purple highlights inside)
|trainer=yes
|trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]]
|game=yes
|generation={{Gen|IX}}
|games={{pkmn|Scarlet and Violet}}
}}

'''Kieran''' (Japanese: '''スグリ''' ''Suguri'') is a new character introduced in [[The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero]]. He has a quiet, gentle nature, and he often hides behind his big sister, It seems he’s curious about the player, though, when they arrive from the Paldea region.<ref>https://scarletviolet.pokemon.com/en-us/news/new_characters/</ref>



==Artwork==
{| style="margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{scarlet color dark}}; background: #{{scarlet color}}; font-size:80%"
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{violet color dark}}; background: #{{violet color light}}; width:100px; height:150px"| [[File:The Teal Mask key art.png|x150px]]
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{violet color dark}}; background: #{{violet color light}}; width:100px; height:150px"| [[File:The Indigo Disk key art.png|x150px]]
|-
| {{color2|000|The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero|The Teal Mask}} Key Artwork
| {{color2|000|The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero|The Indigo Disk}} Key Artwork
|}



==Trivia==
*Kieran's dyed portion under his hair represents [[Pokémon Violet]].

==Names==
{| class="roundtable" style="background:#{{violet color light}}; border:3px solid #{{violet color dark}}"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|-
| Japanese
| スグリ ''Suguri''
| From 酸塊 ''suguri'' ({{wp|Ribes|currant}})
|-
| English
| Kieran
| From ''currant''
|-
| German
| Jo
| From ''Johannisbeere'' (currant)
|-
| Spanish
| Cass
| From ''cassis'' ({{wp|blackcurrant}})
|-
| French
| Kassis
| From ''cassis'' (blackcurrant)
|-
| Italian
| Riben
| From ''{{wp|Ribes}}'' (genus containing the currant)
|-
| Korean
| 카지 ''Kaji''
| From 까치밥나무 ''kkachibamnamu'' (currant)
|-
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and Mainland China}})
| 烏栗 / 乌栗 ''Wūlì''
| rowspan="2" | From 烏 / 乌 ''wū'' (black) and 醋栗 ''cùlì / chouleuht'' (currant)
|-
| Chinese ({{tt|Cantonese|Hong Kong}})
| 烏栗 ''Wūleuht''
|}
{{-}}
==References==
<references/>

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{{NPC|Paldea|paldea=yes}} 
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[[de:Jo]]
[[es:Corin]]
[[fr:Kassis]]
[[it:Riben]]
[[ja:スグリ]]
[[zh:烏栗]]

Talk:Kieran

2023-02-28T06:37:05Z

DecafSnorlax:

Etymology:
Kieran's Japanese name, Suguri (スグリ) is the Japanese word for currant or gooseberry (it is the term for the genus ''Ribes''). Due to Kieran's violet theming it may be specifically referring to blackcurrant (クロスグリ, kurosuguri), which has a distinct purple color.
Kieran (in English) probably comes from the word "currant"?
--[[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 06:36, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Kieran

2023-02-28T06:36:36Z

DecafSnorlax: Name origin

Talk:Carmine

2023-02-28T06:16:06Z

DecafSnorlax: Name origin

Hi all, I'd like to suggest the etymologies for Carmine's names in Japanese and English: Zeiyu (ゼイユ) comes from the French word "groseille" (katakana: グロゼイユ ''gurozeiyu''), which means redcurrant. And of course carmine is a deep red colour pigment.
I will discuss Kieran's etymology in his talk page as well.
Cheers!
--[[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 06:15, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Arezu

2021-09-29T04:41:13Z

DecafSnorlax: /* Names */

{{Incomplete|needs=origins for Japanese and Chinese names}}
{{CharInfobox
|color={{hisui color}}
|corecolor={{hisui color light}}
|bordercolor={{hisui color dark}}
|name=Arezu
|jname=ヒナツ
|tmname=Hinatsu
|slogan=no
|image=Legends Arceus Arezu.png
|size=250px
|caption=Art from {{pkmn|Legends: Arceus}}
|gender=Female
|hair color=Red
|eye color=Red
|age=no
|hometown=Unknown
|region=[[Hisui]]
|relatives=Unknown
|colors=no
|game=yes
|generation={{gen|VIII}}
|games={{pkmn|Legends: Arceus}}
|leader=no
}}

'''Arezu''' (Japanese: '''ヒナツ''' ''Hinatsu'') is a character introduced in {{g|Legends: Arceus}}. She is a [[warden]], though it is currently unknown which special Pokémon she is tasked with watching over, only being identified as "a certain lady Pokémon".

==In the core series==
Arezu feels a great deal of responsibility as a warden, and because of this, she tends to try to solve problems all by herself.

==Names==
{| class="roundtable" style="float:left; background: #{{normal color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{normal color dark}}"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|-
| Japanese
| ヒナツ ''Hinatsu''
| 火 ''hi'' (fire) is from 火星 ''Kasei'' (Mars)
|-
| English
| Arezu
| From ''{{wp|Ares}}''
|-
| German
| Hinatsu
| Same as Japanese name
|-
| Spanish
| Sera
| ''Ares'' backwards
|-
| French
| Marcia
| From ''Mars''
|-
| Italian
| Maru
| From ''Mars''
|-
| Korean
| 성화 ''Seonghwa''
| From 화성 ''Hwaseong'' (Mars)
|-
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and Mainland China}})
| rowspan="2" | 火夏
| rowspan="2" | 火 is from 火星 (Mars)
|-
| Chinese ({{tt|Cantonese|Hong Kong}})
|}

{{-}}

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[[Category:Legends: Arceus characters]]

[[de:Hinatsu]]
[[es:Sera]]
[[fr:Marcia]]
[[it:Maru]]
[[ja:ヒナツ]]
[[zh:火夏]]

Iscan

2021-09-29T04:37:56Z

DecafSnorlax: /* Names */ 억새 is the Korean name of Miscanthus.

{{CharInfobox
|color={{water color}}
|corecolor={{water color light}}
|bordercolor={{ghost color dark}}
|name=Iscan
|jname=ススキ
|tmname=Susuki
|slogan=no
|image=Legends Arceus Iscan.png
|size=250px
|caption=Art from {{pkmn|Legends: Arceus}}
|gender=Male
|hair color=Blue
|eye color=Brown
|age=no
|hometown=Unknown
|region=[[Hisui]]
|relatives=Unknown
|colors=no
|game=yes
|generation={{gen|VIII}}
|games={{pkmn|Legends: Arceus}}
|leader=no
}}

'''Iscan''' (Japanese: '''ススキ''' ''Susuki'') is a character introduced in {{g|Legends: Arceus}}. He is a [[warden]] tasked with watching over a special {{p|Basculegion}}.

==In the core series==
Iscan lives by the sea. He can be a bit easy to frighten and isn’t too fond of {{type|Ghost}} Pokémon. Despite this, he is tasked with watching over the {{t|Water}}/Ghost-type, Basculegion.

==Names==
{| class="roundtable" style="float:left; background: #{{normal color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{normal color dark}}"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|-
| Japanese
| ススキ ''Susuki''
| From 芒 ''Susuki'' ({{wp|Miscanthus}})
|-
| English
| Iscan
| From ''Miscanthus sinensis'' (Scientific name of silver grass)
|-
| German
| Susuki
| Same as Japanese name
|-
| Spanish
| Erio
| From ''Erianthus japonicus''
|-
| French
| Graham
| From ''Gramineae'' ({{wp|Poaceae}})
|-
| Italian
| Sinen
| From ''Miscanthus sinensis''
|-
| Korean
| 억새 ''Eoksae''
| From 억새 (Miscanthus)
|-
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and Mainland China}})
| rowspan="2" | 阿芒 ''Amon''
| rowspan="2" | From 芒草 (Miscanthus)
|-
| Chinese ({{tt|Cantonese|Hong Kong}})
|}

{{-}}

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[[de:Susuki]]
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[[fr:Graham]]
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[[ja:ススキ]]
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Arezu

2021-09-29T04:31:54Z

DecafSnorlax: /* Names */ likely Japanese and Chinese name origins, Chinese name pinyin

{{Incomplete|needs=origins for Japanese and Chinese names}}
{{CharInfobox
|color={{hisui color}}
|corecolor={{hisui color light}}
|bordercolor={{hisui color dark}}
|name=Arezu
|jname=ヒナツ
|tmname=Hinatsu
|slogan=no
|image=Legends Arceus Arezu.png
|size=250px
|caption=Art from {{pkmn|Legends: Arceus}}
|gender=Female
|hair color=Red
|eye color=Red
|age=no
|hometown=Unknown
|region=[[Hisui]]
|relatives=Unknown
|colors=no
|game=yes
|generation={{gen|VIII}}
|games={{pkmn|Legends: Arceus}}
|leader=no
}}

'''Arezu''' (Japanese: '''ヒナツ''' ''Hinatsu'') is a character introduced in {{g|Legends: Arceus}}. She is a [[warden]], though it is currently unknown which special Pokémon she is tasked with watching over, only being identified as "a certain lady Pokémon".

==In the core series==
Arezu feels a great deal of responsibility as a warden, and because of this, she tends to try to solve problems all by herself.

==Names==
{| class="roundtable" style="float:left; background: #{{normal color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{normal color dark}}"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|-
| Japanese
| ヒナツ ''Hinatsu''
| 火 ''hi'' (fire) is from 火星 ''Kasei'' (Mars)
|-
| English
| Arezu
| From ''{{wp|Ares}}''
|-
| German
| Hinatsu
| Same as Japanese name
|-
| Spanish
| Sera
| ''Ares'' backwards
|-
| French
| Marcia
| From ''Mars''
|-
| Italian
| Maru
| From ''Mars''
|-
| Korean
| 성화 ''Seonghwa''
| From 화성 ''Hwaseong'' (Mars)
|-
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and Mainland China}})
| rowspan="2" | 火夏 ''Huǒxià''
| rowspan="2" | 火 ''huǒ'' (fire) is from 火星 ''Huǒxīng'' (Mars)
|-
| Chinese ({{tt|Cantonese|Hong Kong}})
|}

{{-}}

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[[de:Hinatsu]]
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Talk:Never-Ending Nightmare (move)

2016-11-01T11:35:34Z

DecafSnorlax: /* Type */

== Type ==

I think this is a Ghost-type move. You can see parts of the Ghostium Z sigil; namely the upper half-open "eye"-like shape around Mimikyu's face, the wispy "tail" ending between the words 'Ending' and 'Nightmare', and the purple colour. https://nintendo.corednacdn.com/web_images/T19210D-T19213-3-Beads-Pack---ghost_bug_dark-with-FX.png ''(detail of Ghostium Z, Buginium Z, and Darkinium Z Crystals from the Nintendo Australia site)''.

It is clearly different from a Dark- or Psychic-type Z-Move (the other types of which the name may also imply it to be). http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/es.pokemon/images/1/19/Pulsera_Z_de_TOMY_con_todos_los_cristales_Z.png/revision/latest?cb=20160805012913 ''(image of the 18 type-specific Crystals. On WikiDex)
''
[[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 14:42, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
:The Japanese toys also have [https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81ZxpLV63yL._SL1500_.jpg a board with the symbols] for all the Z-Crystals. It never occurred to me to pay attention to that (but this is also the only move we can really play this detective work on currently), but Ghost does seem to be the only match for the symbol for Never-Ending Nightmare. Thanks for pointing it out! [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:20, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
:: You're welcome! Glad I could help.
[[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 11:35, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Never-Ending Nightmare (move)

2016-11-01T11:34:47Z

DecafSnorlax: /* Type */

Talk:Never-Ending Nightmare (move)

2016-10-29T14:42:30Z

DecafSnorlax: Created page with " == Type == I think this is a Ghost-type move. You can see parts of the Ghostium Z sigil; namely the upper half-open "eye"-like shape around Mimikyu's face, the wispy "tail"..."

Talk:Torracat (Pokémon)

2016-10-05T11:12:21Z

DecafSnorlax: /* Name origin */

== Name origin ==

I think the "Torra-" in Torracat comes from "tora" ( 虎 ), the Japanese word for "tiger", as it's feline and has stripes all over. Nyahiito may derive from "nya", the onomatopoeic Japanese "meow" (also derives from Litten's Japanese name "Nyabbi"), "hi" ( 火 ), Japanese for "fire", and the English word "heat".
[[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 14:13, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

German Name origin. Mieze 'Moggy' and Zunder 'Tinder'. That is all. [[User:CzarTyrant|CzarTyrant]] ([[User talk:CzarTyrant|talk]]) 14:22, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

::: Torr<nowiki>:</nowiki> A unit of pressure equivalent to 1 mm of mercury in a barometer and equal to 133.32 pascals.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 16:45, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
::: Torrefy<nowiki>:</nowiki> Roast, scorch, or dry (a substance such as an ore, a drug, or a fuel) with heat to drive off all moisture or impurities.
‘torrefying wood loses 30% of the mass but only 10% of the energy. Origin
Early 17th century: from French torréfier, from Latin torrefacere dry by heat, from torrere parch, scorch. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 16:47, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Could also come from the word torrid, meaning really hot when referring to weather. That was my first thought when I saw the name![[User:Magentafeelings|Magentafeelings]] ([[User talk:Magentafeelings|talk]]) 20:18, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
I believe Nyaohiteu (the Korean name) is also a partial transliteration of "Nyahiito" (the Japanese one). It starts with the Hangul letters 냐 (nya) as opposed to 야 (ya) (which would be from 야옹 (''ya''ong).
[[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 11:12, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

== Russian name ==

The Russian name of Torracat is Торракат.--[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 15:28, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

== Origin of French Name==

The french could also come from the phrase "m'as-tu-vu", which is a show off. --[[User:Unbirth|Unbirth]] ([[User talk:Unbirth|talk]]) 20:20, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

User talk:DecafSnorlax

2016-10-04T14:20:14Z

DecafSnorlax: /* Responding to old talk page comments */

Talk:Torracat (Pokémon)

2016-10-04T14:13:45Z

DecafSnorlax: Created page with " == Name origin == I think the "Torra-" in Torracat comes from "tora" ( 虎 ), the Japanese word for "tiger", as it's feline and has stripes all over. Nyahiito may derive fro..."

Talk:Bond Phenomenon

2016-10-04T14:06:37Z

DecafSnorlax: /* Rename to Battle Bond */

In both the Japanese and the English versions of the Anime, this event/phenomenon has occurred at least several times. I will provide some examples. In the English TV show "Pokémon: XY&Z" during the episode titled "Championing a Research Battle!", Ash's Greninja changes its form. Bonnie called the new form of Greninja "Ash-Greninja" 2 episodes later in: "All Hail the Ice Battlefield!". Both of these episodes can currently be found in English on Youtube. In the next 2 episodes: "Seeing the Forest For the Trees!" and "A Real Icebreaker!", the Bond Phenomenon is shown to be mastered by Ash and Greninja. The same things are also shown in the Japanese versions of the episodes. I hope this post will act as some motivation for someone to make an 'appearances' section for the page for the Bond Phenomenon.[[User:Avert|Avert]] ([[User talk:Avert|talk]]) 21:46, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

== Rename to Battle Bond ==

I guess it's time to rename the page, now that we have a confirmed name for Ash Greninja's ability. Or we make a new page for Battle Bond.
[[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 13:52, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
:The only thing known at the moment is that Ash-Greninja has an ability called Battl Bond not that the transformation itself is called that. No move needed at the moment. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 13:56, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
I guess. So new Ability page then?
[[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 13:57, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

:: On the official site for Sun and Moon, it is stated as Bond Phenomenon, no need to move it. Here is the [http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon/ash-greninja/ link], its in the first paragraph [[User:Upratik 12|Pratik_12]] '' [[User talk:Upratik 12|Talk]]'' 13:59, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
I see. Sorry about that. We could still make a new page for the Ability, though. Right now there's a link here that's highlighted in red, so someone edited this page with a link to the Ability in mind.
[[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 14:06, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Bond Phenomenon

2016-10-04T13:57:59Z

DecafSnorlax: /* Rename to Battle Bond */

Talk:Bond Phenomenon

2016-10-04T13:53:26Z

DecafSnorlax: /* Rename to Battle Bond */

Talk:Bond Phenomenon

2016-10-04T13:52:39Z

DecafSnorlax: /* Rename to Battle Bond */ new section

User talk:DecafSnorlax

2016-10-02T08:47:54Z

DecafSnorlax: /* Signing */

User talk:DecafSnorlax

2016-10-02T08:19:47Z

DecafSnorlax: /* Signing */

Talk:Deoxys (Pokémon)

2016-10-02T08:06:13Z

DecafSnorlax: /* Trivia */

== Missingno. ==

I'm not quite sure in {{p|Deoxys}} is supposed to be based of Missingno. or not. Even my {{p|Jirachi}}-is based-off-the-Beanstar theory manages to mak more sense then that.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 13:33, 6 September 2005 (CDT)

:Oh, puh-leeze. Deoxys is not based off [[Missingno.]] I should know, I'm the self-proclaimed expert on Deoxys. (the key word there being self-proclaimed.) -- [[User:PinkDeoxys|PinkDeoxys]] 15:34, 8 January 2006 (CST)

::Not that I added it to the article, but I do somewhat agree that it shares a few traits... the call, kind of... It's like Hypno sounds like Jynx when sped up, only Deoxys you have to play backwards and sped up to make it sound like Missingno.. And the southern island thing. But I dunno, mostly it's just fan speculation unless we go and ask the designers ourselves. Not that I'd imagine they forgot about Missingno. entirely. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 06:30, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Deoxys is most likely not based on Missingno.. However, until it can be disproven, it is a valid theory.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 02:18, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== Location ==

How do you obtain Deoxys? Where is it? Also, how do you obtain Jirachi or Mew?

:Deoxys requires the ticket(forgot the name). On an island. Jirachi is the Colo bonus disk. Mew requires the old sea chart.

:The ticket is called the Aurora Ticket. It was given out at Pokémon Rocks America 2004. -- [[User:PinkDeoxys|PinkDeoxys]] 15:30, 8 January 2006 (CST)

IMO, I think Deoxys is based on it's namesake, DNA. or else viruses, with are just coated proteins like DNA.

:Deoxys is based off '''Deoxy'''riboneucleic (did I spell that right?) acid, or DNA. Its forms, '''D'''efense, '''N'''ormal, and '''A'''ttack, form the word DNA. The '''S''' in '''S'''peed is the last letter of its name. -- [[User:PinkDeoxys|PinkDeoxys]] 15:30, 8 January 2006 (CST)

== Transfer from Wikipedia ==

(Just like the exodus of german scientists to America during World War II!)
Since the Wikipedia pokemon articles are in danger of being deleted, I made it my duty to add the info to the Bulbapedia articles from Wikipedia, starting with this one!!!
[[User:MudkipNDS|MudkipNDS]] 19:25, 19 July 2007 (UTC)mkds
:No worries, you don't have to be so frantic. The old pages are just being ''redirected''; you'll always be able to find old versions of the page through the "history" tab at the top of the page.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 19:28, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

==Eggs==
It says "no eggs" for the egg group yet specifies a number of steps to hatch. Huh?--[[User:SomeoneIKnew|SomeoneIKnew]] 20:06, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
:While it ''is'' impossible for a Deoxys egg to exist, every species was given a number of steps to hatch; this information was found through hacking probably. In most cases, impossible eggs are given a ludicrous number of steps anyway.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 21:13, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
::It's not impossible to have it, you just have to hack it. But yes, the hatching steps do come from game data. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 04:15, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
:::The reason Deoxys has an egg step number is to prevent the game crash that happend in Gen II, when people would use cheats to get special eggs the games would crash when a legendary egg is made. This way players could hack legendary eggs without crashing their game. [[User:GuyNamedSean|GuyNamedSean]] 18:29, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

== D/P Back sprite ==

Is it just me or that back sprite looks a little... glitchy? Cause it isn't usual to have a brightly colored outline and then darker colors and shading, but meh. :P [[User:TinaTheKirlia|TinaTheKirlia]] [[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♪]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]] 16:57, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
:Looks as if it was cropped out of a move picture, with a move that slightly changed the area around it. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 18:29, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
::It was taken from the original sprite rip which for some reason had this issue for all the Pokémon with form differences. I've fixed it now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:54, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

== Possible Error? ==

My Deoxys is in Attack Form, hit Level 33, and learned Pursuit. The movelist says it should have learned Spikes (which I wanted). Is the movelist wrong? [[User:Inker|Inker]] 07:41, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
:You sure it's in Attack form? The other three learn it at 33, so you might be mistaking the form. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:14, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
::That was indeed an error, and has now been corrected. For the record, this also applies to Taunt, which is Defense Deoxys' exclusive move, rather than Attack Deoxys' (it learns Knock Off along with the other two).

::Whoever got the movelist wrong must have done so because he expected the three non-Normal forms to each have four exclusive moves. In truth, Attack Deoxys has two such moves (Superpower and Zap Cannon), Defense Deoxys - six (Spikes, Taunt, Iron Defense, Amnesia, Counter and Mirror Coat), and Speed Deoxys - four (Double Team, Swift, Agility and ExtremeSpeed). --[[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 16:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

I have noticed another error: the page says recruit area of Deoxys is Beau Plains, but it's in fact Enclosed Island! Can someone edit it? I can't find the right section.

[[User:Takaoldaria|Takaoldaria]] 19:14, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
:Fixed. Whoever upgraded it forgot to put the parameter in, and the template defaults to Beau Plains. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:46, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

== Shiny Artwork ==

I just uploaded the shiny artwork for Deoxys, but I'm stuck for placs to put it. <big>[[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User Talk:Tesh|'''TALK''']][[User:Tesh/Other|'''FUN''']]</big> 21:53, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:..{{tt|he|Ken Sugimori, btw.}} made shiny Deoxys artwork? ..interesting. :0 [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:54, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I've actually found all of the shiny artwork... <big>[[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User Talk:Tesh|'''TALK''']][[User:Tesh/Other|'''FUN''']]</big> 21:56, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:Ooo.. link please? [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:57, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmm... It's basically just another Pokémon site. Oh and just to let you know it's in french. [http://www.pokebip.com Pokebip] <big>[[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User Talk:Tesh|'''TALK''']][[User:Tesh/Other|'''FUN''']]</big> 22:00, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok... I told a white lie... No ''all'' of the Shiny Artwork, but some. XD <big>[[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User Talk:Tesh|'''TALK''']][[User:Tesh/Other|'''FUN''']]</big> 22:08, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:Lol. Seems like it's just recolored in Photoshop or something though, but it's cool to look at :0 [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 22:18, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I like how they have the sprite image halfway through the animation. <big>[[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User Talk:Tesh|'''TALK''']][[User:Tesh/Other|'''FUN''']]</big> 22:21, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:Umm that Shiny art orginally came from [http://www.pokebeach.com Poke Beach]. --'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]''''''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]''' 22:35, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:They're all just shooped. No need for shiny Sugimori art of all of these things. The normal art and shiny sprites suffice. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 03:28, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

== Youtube Fake video ==
I've seen a youtube video that shows a trainer catching it in pokemon ruby [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y11P54qgUwo&feature=related] this video is obviously fake, cause it's a pokemon FireRed hack and the battle script is the same as Ho-oh, but the video ends just as the battle begins. This guy has tricked so many people to do what they see in the video.

should be added info on this? [[User:Hfc2x|Hfc2x]] 16:50, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
:There's no need to add information on every fan-made video posted, let alone this one in particular. There are tons of videos just like this on YouTube alone. // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|'''''SzayelAporroGranz''''']] 19:21, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

== Deoxys' hand?==

Why does Deoxys have a hand in his sprite, but in his artowrk he just has tentacles? [[User:Buddy Christ|Buddy Christ]] 03:03, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:Ask Game Freak. '''[[User:Haruka uzumaki|うずまき]][[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|ハルカ]]''' 17:21, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
::It's been assumed that Deoxys can willfully form its tentacles into a hand.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:56, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Pokémon Ranger confirms this. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:10, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Destiny Deoxys did way before Ranger, fyi.[[User:Reign|Reign]] 04:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

==Aeroblast?==
I'm not sure deoxys can legitimately get areoblast even from an event I'm pretty sure thats just a rumor [[User:ShinyMedicham]]
:Well, first of all, where did you hear that it can get Aeroblast, and second, does that seem like a good source? [[User:GuyNamedSean|GuyNamedSean]] 18:52, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

==Gamestop Event==
Look at this should this be added under events?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 20:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff194/CoolPikachu/20080607_deoxys-event_usa-4.jpg

Yes, it's even on Bulbanews. It should get a mention here.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]][[User talk:BlueJirachi|WishMaker]] 15:50, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:I am gonna get myself a deoxys. WOOHOO[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 15:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

{{tt|You too?| I'm going to the mall to check if they have it.}}[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]][[User talk:BlueJirachi|WishMaker]] 15:55, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, its the week of my brothers birthday[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 15:56, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, so the Deoxys will be a birthday gift?[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]][[User talk:BlueJirachi|WishMaker]] 15:58, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, a very cheap one =][[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 16:24, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

:I wonder if you'll still be able to obtain one even if you have a Deoxys transfered over from Gen III... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:18, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
::Since, more or less it will be a Wonder Card, yes. tc26 16:25, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Someone put in the article that this Deoxys doen's obey its trainer. Maybe Gamestop goofed and forgot to set the flag required for their official Deoxys to obey. Or maybe that guy doesn't have the required badge... '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 02:39, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I found out today that the National Pokedex is a requirement for this event, in order for the wireless transfer to commence. Kinda wish there were more accurate details on Bulbanews beforehand. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 04:03, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:Uh, yeah, it's a national Pokémon...and, uh, no offense but did you ''just get'' the game or something? It's been out a good year by now...--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:40, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
::Don't be so rude! The guy is new at Pokémon, like most of us have been... and I also ''just got'' Pokémon Pearl, but I have played Pokémon for a long time now (8 years =D) '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 06:30, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Dang, really? Well. All I can say is, Tyler, if you want that Deoxys there's still next weekend. ...that'll be one hell of a busy week.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 16:09, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I just got my Deoxys yesterday at Gamestop, so I will give you all the run-down on it's stats:

Name: Deoxys

Lv: 50

Pokédex No.: ???

Type: Psychic

OT: Gamestp

ID No.: 06218

Ball: Cherish

Item: NeverMeltIce

Naive nature.

Jun. 20, 2008

Pokémon Event

Apparantly had a fateful encounter at

Lv. 50

Somewhat vain.

Likes sweet food.

HP: 120/120

Attack: 155

Defense: 57

Sp. Atk: 163

Sp. Def: 61

Speed: 171

Ability: Pressure

Attacks:

Psycho Boost (PP 5/5)

Zap Cannon (PP 5/5)

Iron Defense (PP 15/15)

ExtremeSpeed (PP 5/5)

And all I needed was the Pokédex, so my second Pokémon (after Turtwig) was this Deoxys, thanks to the "Mystery from Space" Event. I picked it up at Sandgem Town WITHOUT the National Pokédex. Of course, it won't listen to me 19 times out of 20, but that's just because I only have one badge. [[User:Thunderboom|Lord Thunderboom]] 18:50, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

== Forme spelling ==

''Originally, all of Deoxys's different "formes" were thought to be spelled as "form." However, after Giratina's Origin Forme was revealed, fans went back to check Pokémon.com, and the Official Emerald Players guide (published in 2005) to find that "forme" has in fact always been the official spelling"''
 What exactly does the Player's Guide say? If it's just a random appearance of the word, then my suggestion is revert everything to "Form" until either word appears capitalized in a game, just like "Form" (and never "Forme") appears in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon and Pokémon Ranger. IMO, a Player's Guide or news coverings can't be trusted more than the released games themselves. To be fair, the Prima guides also spell it "forme", but still, it's just paper. Super Smash Bros. Brawl spells it "forme", too, but without a capital "F". --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 18:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:So let me get this right - Prima, a player's guide, the official Pokédex website AND Super Smash Bros. Brawl use "forme" and you still think that the official terminology is "form"? It clearly isn't. [[User:Double Dash|Cipher]] 18:11, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::My point was that Pokémon Ranger and Pokémon Mystery Dungeon spell them "Form", with a capital "F", in the text of the game. They are Pokémon games, more mainstream than any Super Smash Bros. game will ever be, and more digital than any guide will ever be. Bulbapedia is intended to be leaned a bit more toward in-game data from what I know. I remember Zhen Lin telling me to fix the "Electric Squirrel" words and place Pachirisu's species name as "EleSquirrel" for example.
::Politoed666, I don't get why my change was reverted specifically [[Deoxys (Pokémon)#Side game data|here]]. The current table about Mystery Dungeon is using the in-game spelling, so I was doing the same, in the Pokémon Ranger side game data section, with the names of the Deoxys "formes" (if you wish, outside of the context) as they appear in Pokémon Ranger as mentioned by Solana and Spencer. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 19:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:: This is a page from Nintendo's Pokémon Emerald Players guide. [http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b248/Chishio-kun/DeoxysPage.jpg]
::As you can see from the image above, it is not an error, forme is the proper spelling. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 18:53, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::: Thanks. I hope in the future everybody takes into account the dates in which different spellings appear, though (I suppose that's 2005). --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 19:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Woah, BIG image. Link amended. [[User:Double Dash|Cipher]] 20:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::::: ''Thanks. I hope in the future everybody takes into account the dates in which different spellings appear, though (I suppose that's 2005).''
Yup. The guide is from May of 2005 when Emerald was released. And further proof that forme is the proper spelling has shown up in the Deoxys event info at the [http://www.pokemon.com/ Pokémon website] today. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 20:50, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Ok, I appreciate you ^_^. We should archive the link for future non-believers: http://www.pokemon.com/#news_/XML/news_265.xml --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 21:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== Changing Problem ==

How Do we change the Move list?I've found that you can't put a small specific word(such as FR) to that specific forme moves(for the example word must be FRLG)
also I checked many website found that Taunt is a Attack Forme only move.--(since English is not my mother language...there may be have grammer mistake) --[[User:chungkingpun|chungkingpunノ]]14:24, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
:Uh oh, youre right =) '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 02:40, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
:That's easy. I set it up for Deoxys's formes. Instead of FR/LG/E/RS, just put the form of the Pokémon. Attack Deoxys learns a move, put Attack. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:41, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks,should the move list like now??--[[User:chungkingpun|chungkingpunノ]]12:07, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

== Art in the infobox ==

I know with Deoxys we do the "standard forme" thing... but we have Wormadam with all three of her coats, same with Burmy, and Shellos and Gastrodon in both West and East Sea variations. I know that's how the Sugimori art came, but why the heck not combine the images into one, then put it in the infobox? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:56, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

::I'm all for combining them, but wouldn't that make the images a tad small? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:09, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
:::No need to force the image to be small... It could be high-res and clickable. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:37, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

::::Seems to me that it's a good idea TTEchinda... If some one here knows how to do that. [[User:GuyNamedSean|GuyNamedSean]] 18:55, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Why is it only Attack Forme now? It was fine before when it showed all the formes. Maybe we could do the same thing with this page that the Arceus page has; make it so that each time the page is refreshed it changes the displayed forme.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 02:42, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::Deoxys changes every day when the page is refreshed, Arceus every second, Giratina every hour and Shaymin is in its Sky Forme during the hours that it is allowed to be in the games. Also, I think that Unown will change every second like Arceus when we find more artwork (if any exists).--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:52, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I don't think it's possible with Unown. There isn't any other artwork.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 07:35, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I see, thank you. But it is still a little fuzzy, like someone mentioned. I don't know how to correct that, though. Does anyone have a larger image of the official artwork?--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 11:49, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Also, Rotom now changes with the days of the week: Saturday and Sunday are Normal, Monday is Heat, Tuesday is Wash, Wednsday is Frost, Thursday is Spin and Friday is Cut.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:21, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Can it be fixed so the moveset shows the forme-exclusive moves? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 14:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Is there any possible way to fix the quality of the Defense artwork, or get a better version of it? —[[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 07:48, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
:Nevermind, didn't see the discussion about it below...>_> —[[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 07:51, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

== GenIII Backsprites ==

I always thought we could have the sprites cycle through the ones available in each game like the Arceus sprite does on it's page (the GenIII backsprites being a good example). We could even do this for all multi-formed Pokémon {{unsigned|MisterE13}}
:For Arceus it is ok, 'cause it has many forms in the same game, but it's not the case for Deoxys (as in Gen III has different forms for different games), so all of them must be shown at the same time.
:And another thing... if you want to start a new section on a Talk Page, click on the + at the top and sign your user name with <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 18:50, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks, I forgot. I just meant instead of cramming all four backsprites into sections of the box, it could cycle the way the Arceus sprite near the top of the page does. I was also thinking that we could do that for the GenIV ones because you can get all 4. We could also do it with Castform, Cherrim, Arceus, Unown, Burmy, Wormadam, Giratina, Shaymin, Rotom... The sprites could even cycle whenever the moving (Emerald + GenIV) sprites animation finishes.[[User:MisterE13|MisterE13]] 19:08, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
:::By the way, I meant this one <nowiki>[[Image:Arceus Formes.gif]]</nowiki> [[User:MisterE13|MisterE13]] 19:17, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
:::That would be an epic pain. Plus, the only way to do that would be to change the nice, crisp pngs into crappy 256-color gifs, so everyone could see them. And that's a definite no. Anipngs would be for the animation of the sprites, not for showing all of them. The way we've got it is just fine, as far as I'm concerned, since you can click the images anyway to get to the fullsize versions. And we're not doing one of those stupid gifs for everyone. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:23, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

== "Forme" trivia ==
The trivia section currently states "fans went back to check Pokémon.com, and the Official Emerald Players guide (published in 2005) to find that "forme" has in fact always been the official spelling". However, [http://dragonflycave.com/forums/showpost.php?p=199741&postcount=1 this user] says that the official FireRed/LeafGreen guide (published in 2004) uses "form", so apparently the "forme" spelling hasn't been "always official". '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' 00:32, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:I'm going to go ahead and change that piece of trivia, since I see no objections. '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' 00:20, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

What is the point of the trivia stating, "In its Generation III Normal Forme sprite, its arm is on its right side, while in Generation IV the arm is on its left. Additionally, in Generation III, it only is shown with four fingers, while in Generation IV, it has five."?
The animé (yes that is how you are ''supposed'' to spell it), and Sugomori art show that Normal Forme Deoxys can twist the arm-tentacles together to form a "humanoid" arm. Doesn't that meen that it should be able to have an arm on either side, and probably change the finger number? [[User:GuyNamedSean|GuyNamedSean]] 23:58, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:Then go and add that part to the trivia. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 01:40, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

No one's pointed out the black triangle thing yet. I'm talking about the one from [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Birth_Island Birth Island] and the finale of the ORAS [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Delta_Episode Delta Episode]. Pokemon Adventures references it in the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/PS283 283rd round], and calls it the "Delta Shield". I'm not sure if the Delta Shield is the same as the Birth Island triangle, but it's something to take note of.
A [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_triangle_(UFO) black triangle] is a type of UFO. The Birth Island triangle resembles this. Should that be in the trivia for the Birth Island page? Maybe the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Deoxys_(Adventures) Deoxys (Adventures) page]?

I also noticed that in the ORAS Chapter, Mossdeep scientists dubbed the meteoroid "[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Grand_Meteor_Delta Grand Meteor Delta]" Idk if this is a reference to Deoxys' Delta Shield, but it could be?
[[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 08:06, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

== Horrible fuzzy pictures! ==

Why is the Deoxys picture used at the top of article always enlarged, so that it is horribly pixelated? I think it would be better just to make it smaller, which I would do if I knew how, but I'm not very familiar with Wiki code. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 20:19, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
:I've been wondering that too, but I don't have any artwork to replace it with. Also, is there a reason that the Speed Forme sprite in the Gen III evolution line is the one from Gen IV? It looks out of place since the Normal, Attack, and Defense Forme sprites there are from Gen III.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 15:36, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::It's because the only Speed GenIIIwe have moves, which would look even more out of place. Feel free to upload another.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 15:41, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Okay, let me see if I can crop a sprite from somewhere. I'm not familiar with the code, though, so it may take me a few tries to make it work...--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 14:31, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Never mind, I found a sprite at PKMN.net. We are allowed to use it, since it's a sprite, right? http://pkmn.net/sprites/rs/deoxys/386speed.png I don't know how to upload it, though.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 14:55, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Color change ==

Has anyone else noticed that Deoxys's Gen III sprites are different colors than its Gen IV sprites? Its Gen III sprites are orange, while its Gen IV sprites are darker and more reddish. Should this be added to the trivia?--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 13:23, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
:No...it's not important...because it's the same color. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 13:36, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
::Actually, it's darker in Gen IV, if you compare the back sprites. Also, the gem in its chest is a different color in Emerald than it is everywhere else; it's pink in Emerald, but purple in all other games and formes, even its Gen IV Speed Forme. And is it just me or is its gem bigger in its Defense Forme than in its other formes?--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 17:33, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Trivia error? ==

This might be me being stupid, but the trivia says "Deoxys was the first Pokémon to have its own unique battle music", but didn't Suicune in Pokémon Crystal have unique music when you battled it? I haven't played Pokémon Crystal in a while, so I might be wrong. [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|サソデイ]] 18:19, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
:I think Suicune's music was shared with Entei and Raikou, as before this, all Pokémon had the same wild encounter theme. Deoxys was the first to have its own music, without sharing. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 21:22, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
::I know it was shared in Gold and Silver, but I think it might have been different in Crystal. I'm not 100% sure though. [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|サソデイ]] 15:11, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
:::No, the trio all definitely had the same music in Crystal. —[[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 07:54, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

== Formes between games ==

Just asking, if I have a Speed forme of Deoxys in Emerald, and I trade it to FireRed, will it still have his Speed forme or will it change to FireRed's forme? If the answer is the second option, shouldn't this be in the article? --[[User:Dr. James|Dr. James]] 15:48, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
:The second option is true. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 15:51, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

== Deoxys in the Anime ==

Looking back, that was a pretty bad edit. Long, rambly, save for grammar, spelling, and capitalization. Still, someone should do something, it is not right as it is. The purple Deoxys did not just appear and go to Larousse city, it was in the same meteor as the green Deoxys. Rayquaza did not simply appear out of nowhere either, it had a previous battle and current motive to track down and attack the Deoxys. Worst of all, it wasn't because Emerald had not come out yet that the Speed forme had not appeared in the movie, it was because it had not been created yet. It had come out in Emerald because by that time, they had made Speed forme Deoxys and needed a third generation game to contain that data. Can someone correct this while keeping it short?--[[User:QX Deoxys|QX Deoxys]] 00:22, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

== New picture? ==
I believe that we should use a different picture for Deoxys. I don't mean to nitpick, but the picture we have up right now is a tad pixilated and shows only one Forme (Defense). I've found a clearer picture that shows all four of Deoxys' formes (Speed, Attack, and Normal, as well as Defense). http://ui11.gamespot.com/362/deoxysdppokesafari_2.jpg So, what say you? [[User:Link 486|Link 486]] 16:26, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
:No, that looks pretty ugly tbh. Also, read the notice at the very top of this talk page. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 16:46, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

== Forme Change ==

In heartgold and soulsilver. How do you do it? [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:58, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
:Route 3. Just like the article says. There are rocks on Route 3, similar to the ones in Veilstone. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 18:02, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

== Fake Groudon ==

Is it just me, or does Fake Groudon look like a Deoxys forme? He has the tentacles, the colours, but no one seems to see it but me...[[User:Megadog|Megadog]] 06:28, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:There's not enough similarity to even ''think'' about mentioning it. When I commented on similarities between the Lake Trio and the GSDS prefixes on the GSDS talk page, I got shot down, '''''hard'''''. That had a bit more substance than this. Also, your attempt at actually ''writing'' it into trivia had multiple errors. Finally, sign when you post on talk pages. All it takes is four ~s. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 05:57, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
OK...sorry, i'm kinda new here, and only found this after I did that. I tried to go back and remove it, to find it was already gone. anyways, I didn't mean it was an actual forme, but you have to admit it does look like it could be. Also, whats GSDS? [[User:Megadog|Megadog]] 06:28, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
: I went and removed it as soon as I saw it added... twice. My advice is simple: When in doubt, talk before adding.
: [[GSDS]] was the fan name for HGSS before they were announced and got official names, apparently given by {{user|TTEchidna}}. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 06:33, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
I don't fully understand that connection, or in fact, at all. Also, I swear I only put it up once...The second time may have been a glitch when I tried to remove it. Also, I have only seen the two screenshots of fake groudon getting blasted by jirachi, so there may be the problem. EDIT: I've just watched the preview, and see how completely wrong I was. [[User:Megadog|Megadog]] 06:41, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== Moveset comparison table ==

Is it possible to get a comparison table up to show the differences between the movesets of each Forme? Something like what's on the [[Legendary golems]] and other pages. Just stick it below the other four moveset tables, permanently hidden so it's out of the way. ~ [[User:Serial Colour|Serial Colour]] 20:37, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

I have added one at form differences--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 22:05, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

== Introduction uses "form" ==
Should the introductory paragraph to this article really use the word "form" when it's spelled "Forme" everywhere else in the article? For consistency's sake, I'd really recommend changing it.--[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantomjunkie]] 07:43, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

== Guardian Signs ==

Should the event moves for Deoxys from Guardian Signs (Meteor Mash, Detect) be added?[[User:JacobCrystal|JacobCrystal]] 19:41, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

== Image ==

Does anyone else think We should have his default form as the main image on his page? Cause I dont think we should have defense form up as it. Thats like putting heat rotom on rotoms page as main piccy.--Dermodio 20:09, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
:There is special coding on the page that rotates the art for Deoxys based on time. You'll see this in other Pokémon pages as well that have different forms or formes. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 20:12, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

== Eve? ==

Deoxys deeply resembles Eve from the game MOTHER. look- http://shrines.rpgclassics.com/nes/ebz/images/eve.gif {{unsigned|Giegue}}

== !?!?! ==

Somebody removed my trivia about deoxis's name being the first part of Deoxyribonucleic acid the chemical name of dna I know that someone has that the forms spell dna (with an s) so if mine was taken out then why wasn't that one?--[[User:Ash0011|Ash0011]] 21:54, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
:Because it's in the Name Origin section. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 21:56, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

== Recalculation of Deoxys' Effort Value gains in Generation 3 ==

In the [[Effort Values]] article, I noticed a bit of information which stated that the method in which ''Black and White Versions'' of Generation V recalculates EV gains at the end of each battle was equivalent to the way that Deoxys's EV gains were calculated in Generation III, yet I'm not seeing this piece of trivia on Deoxys' own page. Shouldn't it be added to the trivia of Deoxys, then, as (apparently) Deoxys was the only Pokémon to have such a unique method of EV calculation in Generation 3? [[User:Fenyx4|Fenyx4]] 04:19, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

== Wait. ==

What would happen if one got to Birth Island before getting National Dex in FRLG (since Sevii Islands are available after 7 badges, and in these games National Dex is awarded upon capturing 60 Pokémon, not beating E4). And I mean via Aurora Ticket. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 08:19, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

== New event Deoxys ==

Shouldn't someone edit the Event box to say that the new event Deoxys will be handed out fro May 8-31? [[User:PokefanR|PokefanR]] ([[User talk:PokefanR|talk]]) 02:33, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
:No, not yet anyway, because there isn't an official title for the event. When there is an official title for the event it will be added, otherwise the section will require editing multiple times for one event. '''[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|Ariel]]''' 03:19, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

== Mistake in Trivia ==

"As of Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, Deoxys is the first and currently only Event-exclusive Pokémon to become available in-game, effectively losing its Event-exclusive status."

Deoxys is the third event-exclusive Pokemon to lose its exclusivity. Zorua and Zoroark were event-exclusive in Black and White. [[User:Pokemega32|Pokemega32]] ([[User talk:Pokemega32|talk]]) 07:56, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Eh, I think it means Event-exclusive legendaries since, although Zorua and Zoroark are event exclusive to BW they can still be bred, while legendaries can't(with the obvious exception of the Sea Guardian Duo)[[User:Animaltamer7]]09:16, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

== Designer: Hironobu Yoshida or Ken Sugimori? ==

While I don't doubt Bulbapedia's information, as it's probably more accurate then the sources I'm about to state, both the Wikipedia article for Dexoys and the 2015 Guinness Book of World Records: Gamer's Edition state that Ken Sugimori designed the character and not Hironobu Yoshida. --[[User:Evacino|'''evacino''']][[User talk:Evacino|''' (talk)''']] 01:41, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:Neither this article nor Wikipedia cites a source for their claim, so I don't know which is correct. The GBoWR is not the most reliable book for non-world record info; in fact, they probably just got the info from Wikipedia. However, I also find it odd that you're asking this, since [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Deoxys_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=prev&oldid=2023904 you were the one who added Deoxys's designer to this page in the first place]; what was your source when you did so? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:01, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
::Oh snap! You are totally right, I do remember adding that now you have reminded me. I just looked back through my documents and I have found my original log of evidence (with a new source I found by Googling just now which is a Japanese Twitter page): "A source that predates this is a [http://wiki.pokemoncentral.it/index.php?title=Hironobu_Yoshida&oldid=278908 Spanish(?) Pokémon wiki] that was initially added 2nd Nov 2013. The very earliest I can seem to find in English though is from summer 2013, and it's [http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46539404&postcount=21 this forum] stating the Pokémon he created are: Wobbufett, Deoxys, Celebi, Dunsparce and Magmortar. Though the sources are stated to be from Bulbapedia originally, a link is not given. To me, the most likely reason is that it originates from Hironobu illustrating the Deoxys cards for the TCG. I went to Wikipedia to look back at the Deoxys page history and the source given does not actually state Ken designed it - or anyone for that matter, though it quotes 'Deoxys was created by Ken Sugimori with the aid of a development team' in the 2010 Wikipedia article itself. Since then, a source for this claim is needed on Wikipedia.

::I decided to look into some Japanese websites and [http://games.yahoo.co.jp/qa/detail?qid=1083185690 this Yahoo answer] from 2012 states similarly to the English forum. I found this [http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=https://twitter.com/ccccryaccc/status/554628966791647232&prev=search twitter] post which, while posted this year, seems to contain a screenshot of a strategy guide containing Hironobu's creator profile, where he is credited for creating Deoxys. I read more into this guide and apparently it is from an official strategy book - I still need to find a full visual source though. Then I found this site. The person on this site wanted to find out who designed Darkrai, and they found what seems to be [http://ameblo.jp/ilovedarkrai/entry-11708850068.html a lot of evidence]. This, along with many other Japanese sites also having this information, seems relatively convincing to me and, if right, would mean he would have designed Darkrai as well. Still, it would seem strange I haven't found a source from the developers mouths - though that doesn't seem to happen often anyway." I'm really not sure how I forgot about most of this, I guess it's because I didn't think it would ever be worthwhile. Still, this is all the information I found so make of it what you will.

::On an unrelated note, I ''just'' realized are User/Talk signatures are eerily similar. I copied the font type and colour from my school wiki blog when I first made my profile, but it seems so close to yours maybe they got the code originally from you. --[[User:Evacino|'''evacino''']][[User talk:Evacino|''' (talk)''']] 03:51, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

== Mythical? ==

Is Deoxys still Mythical, even though it is obtainable through normal gameplay? [[User:Flanl|Flanl]] ([[User talk:Flanl|talk]]) 23:09, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
:This [https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/GYRH6RJ survey] strongly implies Deoxys is not a Mythical Pokémon. The question says "Which of these are your favorite Mythical Pokémon? (Choose your top 3.)", and includes every Mythical Pokémon, but not Phione or Deoxys.--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:20, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

== The name in other languages ==

Should I add Deoxys translated names in Russian, Czech, Greek, Hungarian and Serbian? Since its name has ben translated. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 17:31, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
:Officially and not the same as in English? [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 17:36, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
::They're most likely from [[M07#In other languages|dubs of ''Destiny Deoxys'']], and they meet both of Eridanus's criteria. Feel free to add them, Raltseye. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 17:51, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
:::Thank you I have added them all now. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 18:21, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

in greek language the word oxys means acid so the name Deoxys is the first to of the word deoxyribonucleic and the word oxys(Greek word for acid) if somebody can add it to the page of the deoxys at <<name's origin>> because i am not able to do it (User:Wertyuiooo)

== Locked Page ==

Apologies if this is the wrong section to post this, but is Deoxys' page locked? For some reason I'm unable to edit it, though I'm able to edit other pages. [[User:Rainingblues|Rainingblues]] ([[User talk:Rainingblues|talk]]) 07:27, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
:Editing on this page is currently restricted to {{bp|Autoconfirmed users}} and above due to an edit dispute. Since you've only joined recently, it may be a little bit before you can edit it. Once you've made more edits and some time has passed, you'll automatically be granted access to this page. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 19:30, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

:: Latching on to this post, how long is it to be autoconfirmed? Newcomer myself. [[User:ShadowBlizzard|ShadowBlizzard]] ([[User talk:ShadowBlizzard|talk]]) 19:18, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
:::The specific details (number of edits and length of time) are not shared with users (most likely to prevent frivolous edits to get to autoconfirmed quicker). Best you can do is just make other edits elsewhere and keep checking back to the autoconfirmed-only page. [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 22:40, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

==Name Origin==
hello i want to add somethink at the name's origin if you see a little upper i have find out that it's name is based on the word deoxyribonucleic(de-) and the the Greek word oxys {{unsigned|Wertyuiooo}}

== Deoxys Listed as "Legendary" on Pokèmon Center Website ==

According to the Pokèmon Center website, Deoxys is a legendary Pokèmon, not a mythical one.

source: http://www.pokemoncenter.com/info/Pokemon_Characters

The legendary Pokèmon list includes Mewtwo, Lugia, Regirock, Latias, Latios, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, '''Deoxys''', Xerneas, and Yveltal.

The mythical Pokèmon list includes Mew, Jirachi, Darkrai, Shaymin, Arceus, Victini, and Diancie. Note that the image for mythical Pokèmon also shows Genesect.

This is the first source I've personally seen that claims Deoxys to be either legendary or mythical. If it is the only official source on the matter, then I would recommend changing this article accordingly. However, because there may be another source that contradicts this, I will hold off on the edit. [[User:Pacack|ᗧ•••ᗣ Pacack]] 03:04, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
:It is explicitly called Mythical in ORAS. Refer to [[Talk:Legendary Pokémon#Deoxys]] (if you wade through to the end). That is interesting, though; it's the first thing to inarguably class Deoxys as Legendary, giving us a bona fide conflict now... [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:28, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
::I'll bring it up on the Legendary Pokémon page. If nothing else, it might deserve to be mentioned as a conflict. [[User:Pacack|ᗧ•••ᗣ Pacack]] 01:15, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

== That whole event thing. ==

What I'm trying to say is that, although Ranch isn't a core game, it basically makes it so that Mew no longer requires an event, technically making Deoxys the 2nd Pokemon, and not the 1st.

Okay, now someone may be thinking "Ranger Manaphy", but AFAIK, there's no way to reset that data to get a new one, because the game doesn't erase it. At least with Ranch you can delete the data from the Wii menu & start from scratch to get another. That's why I said "catchable." [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 18:03, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
:I went ahead and added a "games outside the core series" clause that should cover Ranch Mew, Ranger Manaphy Egg, Colosseum Bonus Disk Jirachi/Celebi, and any other ones I'm forgetting at the moment. I hope that solves both sides' issue with the trivium. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:14, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
::The trivia is ''not'' talking about whether you can get a Mythical Pokemon without an event, ''period''.
::The trivia is saying, Deoxys is the only Mythical that is IN a CORE game, and that does not require an event to get it. Is Mew in a core game? Sure. Without an event? NO. Celebi? Sure. Without an event? NO. (Same for Darkrai, Arceus, Shaymin, Victini.) Jirachi/Manaphy? Not IN a core game. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:24, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
:::Ranch isn't an event. Therefore, Mew IS obtainable without an event. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 19:29, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
::::And that's NOT what the trivia is about. ...Please, can you tell me: where is Haley's Mew present in a core game? (Remember: CORE game.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:37, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::... When you transfer it. Yes, I get that you can't get it without Ranch, but an event and spin-off games are 2 completely different things. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 19:44, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
::::::And that's not IN a core game. Which is ''what the trivia point is about''. Hayley's Mew is not in a core game; it has NO bearing on this trivia. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:50, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
Deoxys is the only Mythical Pokémon to become '''''available'' within a core series''' game without an event.
:::::::: Available being the keyword. The Mew gets transferred to the core games without an event. That's why it should be reworded. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 19:57, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::::::No. "Within" is the key word. I.e., without touching any other game. You start a core game, walk around in the game, and eventually in the game, you find a Mythical Pokemon, without having done anything in particular anywhere ''but'' in the same game. A reasonable person is almost ''entirely'' likely to read it like that. You're just too focused on your own point to see anything else clearly. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:12, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
::::::::::Okay, fine. You got me there. When I have something on my mind, it's hard to focus on anything else. And I always miss stuff when reading, 2 of my weaknesses. *sighs* Sorry to waste your time. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 21:53, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

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==???==
Is it just me, or does the Red/Blue sprite look like the Gold sprite, except flipped and less color? '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 01:16, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
: I do not see it[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 01:18, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::[[Image:Spr 1b 120.png]][[Image:Spr 2g 120.png]] I think they look similar. '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 01:20, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::: I still do not see it, but whatever floats your boat[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 01:21, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Guess it's just me. '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 01:22, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::I am also slightly colorblind, so yeah[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 01:23, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::I see it!! but I don't think it is flipped...just turned. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:23, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yay! I'm not crazy! '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 01:24, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::YAY! COLORBLIND EYES[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 01:25, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::They look similar because it's the same Pokémon and Staryu isn't very expressive. The Gold sprite has different shading. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 07:07, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

== Gem ==

The gem in the center of Staryu looks like a PokéBall. Could someone add this to the trivia secion? [[User:ShinyPikachu|ryan]] 17:56, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
: I;m sorry, I don't see it. Even if it does, I doubt it would be note worth. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] 18:01, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:Not so much...color-wise, yeah, but that's like saying Wurmple looks like a PokéBall since it's red and white. --'''[[User:Gabbie|gabbie]]''' | '''[[User_talk:Gabbie|talk]]''' 18:04, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::How about shaped like a PokéBall? ShinyPiKa 20:49, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

It's simply just a round gemstone. Besides, we don't even know if it's completely spherical or flat on the back. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:53, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

== Egg Moves ==

I was thinking we should list Staryu's Egg Moves for Gold and Silver, assuming, of course, we note that they're only for Gold and Silver. Would that be too much? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|Rawr I say!]] 20:37, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
:Staryu has egg moves in Gold and Silver? I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 21:36, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
::It does? Aren't they, uh, only moves it can learn by level anyway? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:26, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Well, the article says it does, and I don't know if it can only learn them by level up anyway. That's the point to my question. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|Rawr I say!]] 15:11, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

== Staryu's Points ==

Staryu has a pentagon-shaped tip at the end of its points as shown at the bottom tip here:

Should this be added to the "Physiology" section? [[User:Rpp|Rpp]] 23:52, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

== I was wondering something about location ==

I see that for every pokemon, there is a helpful box that tells us where to retrieve this pokemon, and in what version. I would like to suggest that we also include the level you meet it at. I'd do it for a lot of articles, and for all the Pokemon who I do know this information about. - [[User:Zelrio|Zelrio]]
:This wouldn't be the place for it, because some Pokémon are just so common. We do list, however, the locations you can find every Pokémon and if you go to that article (i.e. [[Route 220]]) you can see it there. If this page is missing information be sure to add it if you can. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:08, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

== Back side ==

In back side it seem that part of front gem covered attach to one of its leg side.Does it mean anything? [[User:Meearaimeng|Meearaimeng]] 10:38, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
:No, not really. Just a design thing I guess...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 10:57, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
::It's been in the Physiology section for ages guys =P ([[User:Ash zane|Ash zane]] 00:11, 3 March 2011 (UTC))

== The Orb ==

Could it be Mentioned in the trivia (when we can add it again) that the Orb in the middle of Staryu has Changed size throughout the generations? it's small in Gen 1 and 2, and in Gen 3 it's considerably bigger [[User:Buizel1991|Buizel1991]] 13:41, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

== Reflect Type Trivia ==

Maybe it could be added to trivia section that Staryu is the only non-legendary Pokemon that can learn Reflect Type without need for an event. Also, that it's the only non-legendary Pokemon that can learn Reflect Type by leveling up.--[[User:Sylveon|Sylveon]] ([[User talk:Sylveon|talk]]) 02:15, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
:Since only three Pokemon learn it at all, without events, I personally feel that it's not particularly notable. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 02:48, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
::Fair enough.--[[User:Sylveon|Sylveon]] ([[User talk:Sylveon|talk]]) 03:42, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

== Wrong Location ==

Staryu is not on Route 223 in Platinum. Staryu is in Sunyshore City in Platinum.

[[User:RainingChain|RainingChain]] ([[User talk:RainingChain|talk]]) 23:55, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

== Name origin ==

I know it's a little late to say this, but I was wondering if the "ryu" from "Staryu" could derive from "''ryuu''sei" ( 流星; りゅうせい )? Ryuusei means shooting star/meteor in Japanese, and I think this fits Staryu perfectly-- seeing how it moves around and uses Swift in the air. Then again SM already has Minior, which is the true ''Meteor Pokemon''. What do you guys think?
[[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 07:17, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

== Name origin ==

I know it's a little late to say this, but I was wondering if the "ryu" from "Staryu" could derive from "''ryuu''sei" ( 流星; りゅうせい )? Ryuusei means shooting star/meteor in Japanese, and I think this fits Staryu perfectly-- seeing how it moves around and uses Swift in the air. Then again SM already has Minior, which is the true ''Meteor Pokemon''. What do you guys think?
[[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 07:13, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Staryu (Pokémon)

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==???==
Is it just me, or does the Red/Blue sprite look like the Gold sprite, except flipped and less color? '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 01:16, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
: I do not see it[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 01:18, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::[[Image:Spr 1b 120.png]][[Image:Spr 2g 120.png]] I think they look similar. '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 01:20, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::: I still do not see it, but whatever floats your boat[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 01:21, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Guess it's just me. '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 01:22, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::I am also slightly colorblind, so yeah[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 01:23, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::I see it!! but I don't think it is flipped...just turned. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:23, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yay! I'm not crazy! '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 01:24, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::YAY! COLORBLIND EYES[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 01:25, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::They look similar because it's the same Pokémon and Staryu isn't very expressive. The Gold sprite has different shading. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 07:07, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

== Gem ==

The gem in the center of Staryu looks like a PokéBall. Could someone add this to the trivia secion? [[User:ShinyPikachu|ryan]] 17:56, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
: I;m sorry, I don't see it. Even if it does, I doubt it would be note worth. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] 18:01, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:Not so much...color-wise, yeah, but that's like saying Wurmple looks like a PokéBall since it's red and white. --'''[[User:Gabbie|gabbie]]''' | '''[[User_talk:Gabbie|talk]]''' 18:04, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::How about shaped like a PokéBall? ShinyPiKa 20:49, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

It's simply just a round gemstone. Besides, we don't even know if it's completely spherical or flat on the back. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:53, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

== Egg Moves ==

I was thinking we should list Staryu's Egg Moves for Gold and Silver, assuming, of course, we note that they're only for Gold and Silver. Would that be too much? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|Rawr I say!]] 20:37, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
:Staryu has egg moves in Gold and Silver? I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 21:36, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
::It does? Aren't they, uh, only moves it can learn by level anyway? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:26, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Well, the article says it does, and I don't know if it can only learn them by level up anyway. That's the point to my question. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|Rawr I say!]] 15:11, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

== Staryu's Points ==

Staryu has a pentagon-shaped tip at the end of its points as shown at the bottom tip here:

Should this be added to the "Physiology" section? [[User:Rpp|Rpp]] 23:52, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

== I was wondering something about location ==

I see that for every pokemon, there is a helpful box that tells us where to retrieve this pokemon, and in what version. I would like to suggest that we also include the level you meet it at. I'd do it for a lot of articles, and for all the Pokemon who I do know this information about. - [[User:Zelrio|Zelrio]]
:This wouldn't be the place for it, because some Pokémon are just so common. We do list, however, the locations you can find every Pokémon and if you go to that article (i.e. [[Route 220]]) you can see it there. If this page is missing information be sure to add it if you can. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:08, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

== Back side ==

In back side it seem that part of front gem covered attach to one of its leg side.Does it mean anything? [[User:Meearaimeng|Meearaimeng]] 10:38, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
:No, not really. Just a design thing I guess...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 10:57, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
::It's been in the Physiology section for ages guys =P ([[User:Ash zane|Ash zane]] 00:11, 3 March 2011 (UTC))

== The Orb ==

Could it be Mentioned in the trivia (when we can add it again) that the Orb in the middle of Staryu has Changed size throughout the generations? it's small in Gen 1 and 2, and in Gen 3 it's considerably bigger [[User:Buizel1991|Buizel1991]] 13:41, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

== Reflect Type Trivia ==

Maybe it could be added to trivia section that Staryu is the only non-legendary Pokemon that can learn Reflect Type without need for an event. Also, that it's the only non-legendary Pokemon that can learn Reflect Type by leveling up.--[[User:Sylveon|Sylveon]] ([[User talk:Sylveon|talk]]) 02:15, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
:Since only three Pokemon learn it at all, without events, I personally feel that it's not particularly notable. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 02:48, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
::Fair enough.--[[User:Sylveon|Sylveon]] ([[User talk:Sylveon|talk]]) 03:42, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

== Wrong Location ==

Staryu is not on Route 223 in Platinum. Staryu is in Sunyshore City in Platinum.

[[User:RainingChain|RainingChain]] ([[User talk:RainingChain|talk]]) 23:55, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

== Name origin ==

I know it's a little late to say this, but I was wondering if the "ryu" from "Staryu" could derive from "''ryuu''sei" ( 流星; りゅうせい )? Ryuusei means shooting star/meteor in Japanese, and I think this fits Staryu perfectly-- seeing how it moves around and uses Swift in the air. Then again SM already has Minior, which is the true ''Meteor Pokemon''. What do you guys think?

== Name origin ==

I know it's a little late to say this, but I was wondering if the "ryu" from "Staryu" could derive from "''ryuu''sei" ( 流星; りゅうせい )? Ryuusei means shooting star/meteor in Japanese, and I think this fits Staryu perfectly-- seeing how it moves around and uses Swift in the air. Then again SM already has Minior, which is the true ''Meteor Pokemon''. What do you guys think?
[[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 07:13, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Staryu (Pokémon)

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Talk:Lycanroc (Pokémon)

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== Source on evolution method? ==
Last time I checked, corocoro was vague about this hounds evolution. One page stated that it was time-based, the other suggested (and ''only'' suggested) that it was game based. However, I can not read Japanese, but I never saw any translated clarification on this. If you can verify it was not directly stated, please add a note that the method in unconfirmed if it was not directly stated that the forms are game-exclusive. I would imagine it is possible they show midday in Sun, and midnight in Moon just because it is a childrens game and most users will be playing mostly during the day. It does not seem confirmed, only vaguely implied. [[User:Puerluna|Puerluna]] ([[User talk:Puerluna|talk]]) 07:21, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
:It was outright stated that each of the form would be exclusive to their respective games in CoroCoro, i.e. Midday in Sun and Midnight in Moon. See [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/CoroCoro_reveals_new_Pok%C3%A9mon,_Ultra_Beasts,_Sun_%26_Moon_anime here]. --[[User:神奇超龍|'''超龍''']]「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|Chao]]'''」 08:26, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
::I thought all that was was showing one form being obtained in one game and the other form in the other game- more a demonstration of the 12-hour difference and the evolution depending on time of day? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 06:33, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
:::No, they're pretty explicit. You can trust that we know what we're talking about. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:51, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

== Artworks ==
Why not place those artworks of Rugarugan just like gender differences, like [[Meowstic]], together, since there isn't a more important form of the two, or more regularly appearing one. [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]) 18:38, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
:Because they're forms with separate names. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:12, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

== Some Wrong Things On the Biology Section... ==

There are some wrong descriptions in the biology section. I can't edit the page now, so I'd better list them here.
1. In the Rugarugan (Midday)'s section, the page says that the four rocks in its fur, and the nose are black, which is wrong. It's a dark shade of brown. (I checked that while sketching Rugarugan with the colour picker on my iPad, and that's definitely not Black)

2. From the Rugarugan Midnight's Section:
"..and a strip of red fur runs between its eyes, which glow red..."
I'm SURE that isn't fur. It can be just eyes glowing. But definitely not fur. [[User:PkmnTrainerV|The legendary PkmnTrainerV is Here!]] ([[User talk:PkmnTrainerV|talk]]) 10:18, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
:I agree, the nose on Midday form is the same shade of brown as the claws and rocks, while the eyes are actually glowing in the Midnight form.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]12:01, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
::The Official Pokemon Sun and Moon site just said that the eyes glow due to the battle thrill, so, the page should be corrected with both the changes. [[User:PkmnTrainerV|The legendary PkmnTrainerV is Here!]] ([[User talk:PkmnTrainerV|talk]]) 08:45, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Bump Post. [[User:PkmnTrainerV|The legendary PkmnTrainerV is Here!]] ([[User talk:PkmnTrainerV|talk]]) 09:54, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

I'd like to add that the mane design for Midday Lycanroc resembles a sun (the tufts and collar spikes spread out like rays) while Midnight's resembles a crescent moon (the mohawk bit arches over in that shape). The furry bit with the rib-spikes might be shaped like that too. It's not really a mistake, but it could help with minimising the text a little? Idk

[[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 12:34, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

== Name derivation ==

The word Lycan, while referring to Lycanthropes (werewolves), is a word unto itself. Lycan is another word for 'wolf'.
[[User:Srushj11|Srushj11]] ([[User talk:Srushj11|talk]]) 05:35, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
:Lycan may have a distinct meaning, but it's not really a "word" (except insofar as fantasy settings may have established it as a "unique" name for werewolves—which still derives ''directly'' from "lycanthrope"). That'd be like saying "pre" is a word, or "geo" (as in geology or geography). It isn't. But in any case, for Lycanroc's name, it very plainly isn't just about wolves; it's about werewolves, lycanthrope in whole, which already very explicitly and recognizably involves wolves. We don't need to try to wedge in "lycan" all by itself. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:49, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

== Hungarian name and name origin ==

Midday form is called Déli Forma and Midnight form is called Éjféli Forma in Hungarian could someone in the staff please add this?

Also might Lycanroc come from the frase "Like a rock" but with an n in there so it would be "Like an rock", I know that it's faulty grammar but still is it plausible or is it too Farfetch'd? --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 12:28, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
:The French and German names also have the (word for werewolf) + roc formatting, so I think it's just a coincidence. They could have dropped the n and still have the lycanthrope origin be obvious. [[User:Glik|glik]][[User talk:Glik|glak]] 13:24, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

== Polish form names ==

The Midday Form is Forma Południowa and the Midnight Form is Forma Północna as seen [http://www.nintendo.pl/news/ogloszono-nowe-szczegoly-i-kolejne-roznice-miedzy-wersjami-w-pokemon-sun-i-pokemon-moon/ here]. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 20:32, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

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It's more of a synopsis than an article. I'm going to edit it to where it's an actual ''description''. [[User:Alpha Totodile|'''Alpha''']][[User talk:Alpha Totodile|'''Totodile''']] 13:49, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
:We also need movesets... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 16:27, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== No skull related pokemon? ==

Uh, wouldn't Koffing be skull related? It's got a skull design on it. --[[User:Fimbulwinter2012|☆'''FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2'''☆]] 23:25, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
:No, But it's most likly called team skull becase there all poison type Pokémon. A skull and cross bones are usually used as a hazard sign for toxic substances. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 23:43, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
::Wouldn't that be more worthy of being put in the trivia then? --[[User:Fimbulwinter2012|☆'''FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2'''☆]] 00:38, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Yeah I think that it should be added. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 00:40, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

== Rivals ==

Should it be noted that the members of Team Skull and the Players team basiclay are rivals? --[[User:Doggy567123|Doggy567123]] ([[User talk:Doggy567123|talk]]) 20:12, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
:Rival- "a person who is competing for the same object or goal as another, or who tries to equal or outdo another; competitor."- Dictionary.com. Team Skull is trying to take advantage of Pokémon for their own selfish reasons while the player helps others. This is not a rival relationship. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 21:05, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

==Mispelling that I can't edit because lock..."==
"planing on the player's team"
It should be plan''n''ing. It's down near where it says they hid the Water Float to lure the player's team to Amp Plains. [[User:Pinkolol16|Pinkolol16]] ([[User talk:Pinkolol16|talk]]) 10:03, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
:I've corrected it, but I'm not sure what's preventing you from editing the page currently. It's not protected and the lockdown is over. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 20:58, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

== Sun and Moon redirect ==

We should retitle this as "Team Skull (Mystery Dungeon)" or something along those lines, because of the new "Team Skull" that's in Sun and Moon. Or maybe make a new page called "Team Skull (Generation VII)"?

Here's something for the trivia section of the SM Team Skull page: "Purumeri" may derive from [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plumeria Plumeria] , and "Guzuma" may derive from [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guzmania Guzmania].
[[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 09:31, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
:We won't move this page until the English name of "Team Skull" is revealed; we don't want to have to move this page and fix all the links, only to have to move it back and fix all the links again. However, the title for this page you suggested is the title we will use if the team from SM retains its Japanese name in English. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:38, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
That was fast! I'm not sure if they'll modify the characters during localization, but Guzma's pendant does have an "S" shaped like a skull.
[[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 09:43, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Team Skull (Mystery Dungeon)

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It's more of a synopsis than an article. I'm going to edit it to where it's an actual ''description''. [[User:Alpha Totodile|'''Alpha''']][[User talk:Alpha Totodile|'''Totodile''']] 13:49, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
:We also need movesets... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 16:27, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== No skull related pokemon? ==

Uh, wouldn't Koffing be skull related? It's got a skull design on it. --[[User:Fimbulwinter2012|☆'''FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2'''☆]] 23:25, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
:No, But it's most likly called team skull becase there all poison type Pokémon. A skull and cross bones are usually used as a hazard sign for toxic substances. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 23:43, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
::Wouldn't that be more worthy of being put in the trivia then? --[[User:Fimbulwinter2012|☆'''FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2'''☆]] 00:38, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Yeah I think that it should be added. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 00:40, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

== Rivals ==

Should it be noted that the members of Team Skull and the Players team basiclay are rivals? --[[User:Doggy567123|Doggy567123]] ([[User talk:Doggy567123|talk]]) 20:12, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
:Rival- "a person who is competing for the same object or goal as another, or who tries to equal or outdo another; competitor."- Dictionary.com. Team Skull is trying to take advantage of Pokémon for their own selfish reasons while the player helps others. This is not a rival relationship. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 21:05, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

==Mispelling that I can't edit because lock..."==
"planing on the player's team"
It should be plan''n''ing. It's down near where it says they hid the Water Float to lure the player's team to Amp Plains. [[User:Pinkolol16|Pinkolol16]] ([[User talk:Pinkolol16|talk]]) 10:03, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
:I've corrected it, but I'm not sure what's preventing you from editing the page currently. It's not protected and the lockdown is over. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 20:58, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

== Sun and Moon redirect ==

We should retitle this as "Team Skull (Mystery Dungeon)" or something along those lines, because of the new "Team Skull" that's in Sun and Moon. Or maybe make a new page called "Team Skull (Generation VII)"?

Here's something for the trivia section of the SM Team Skull page: "Purumeri" may derive from [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plumeria Plumeria] , and "Guzuma" may derive from [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guzmania Guzmania]. That's what I think.
[[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 09:31, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

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Talk:Magearna (Pokémon)

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Can we please make this page with the NewPokemon template? --[[User:TheMaskedMeowth|TheMaskedMeowth]] ([[User talk:TheMaskedMeowth|talk]]) 23:49, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
:It's already being worked on {{u|S2daam/Magiana (Pokémon)|here}}.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 23:53, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

== Is it just me... ==

...or does her "dress" look kinda like a Poke Ball? [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 14:42, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
:Nvm it's already mentioned. Although I don't see the Poke Ball similarities in her upper chest... [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 14:45, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
::I think Magearna looks similar to Diancie in some way... Or it's just me. [[User:Dragoombanite|Dragoombanite]] ([[User talk:Dragoombanite|talk]]) 01:01, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
The SM website says that Magearna can curl into a Poke Ball shape when it's sad or asleep. Should we add that? It seems to change from this "form" as it is sent out into battle. (it was shown in the recent trailer: the one with Pikipek, Yungoos etc. The Japanese trailer for the Volcanion movie shows it curling into a ball as well I think) [[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 21:43, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

==Generation VI==

Is there a way to remove that from the categories? New Pokémon have only ever been introduced at the beginning of a Generation so Magiana is most likely a Generation VII Pokémon. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 09:33, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
:Template no longer defaults to any Generation and won't apply a Generation category until a Generation is input. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 10:09, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
::Just gonna put it out there, that in this day and age is is VERY easy for Nintendo to patch in a new hidden pokemon. Not saying that's gonna happen, but we shouldn't discount it either. --[[User:Lego3400|Lego3400]] ([[User talk:Lego3400|talk]]) 01:39, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

== Volcanion as previous ==

Technically we don't know her exact location in the Poke Dex, so we shouldn't have Volcanion listed as the previous dex entry. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 01:25, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
:It's the previous Pokémon revealed, and it's not like Volcanion skipped a number/multiple numbers, so that's probably why we have it listed as the previous Pokémon.--[[User:HyruleWarrior|HyruleWarrior]] ([[User talk:HyruleWarrior|talk]]) 23:24, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
::When we didn't have any dex info we didn't list it like that. And there's also the fact that we don't even know if Magearna is a Gen VI Pokemon - she could be a Gen VII and is being introduced early like Lucario/Zoroark/etc. If this is the case, which we have no evidence for either way, she probably isn't next to Volcanion - the starters and such are probably between them. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 03:29, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
:::It's possible that Magearna might be placed after Volcanion in the Pokédex like how Victini is after Arceus. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 05:29, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
::::Keyword: ''possible''. Not confirmed. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 16:53, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Any admin want to change this please? [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 15:40, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

== Moon Marking on Forehead? ==

I ''can'' see the supposed moon marking, but it looks more like an eye to me.
[[User:LittleOmu|LittleOmu]] ([[User talk:LittleOmu|talk]]) 03:48, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
:I don't see a moon marking. It looks more like an eye, as you said. But I think it's more just trying to "carve out" the face into a different shape than anything. [[User:Myzou|Myzou]] ([[User talk:Myzou|talk]]) 11:12, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
::FYI Especially in light of the Sun/Moon name/theme, this silvery spherical bunny pokémon is clearly a reference to the {{wp|moon rabbit}} and thus the likely game mascot for Pokémon Moon. (So yes, those are most probably supposed to be crescent moons.) [[User:Twincast|Twincast]] ([[User talk:Twincast|talk]]) 22:26, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
:::Magearna is a Mythical Pokemon, which have never once been a game mascot. So don't count on it. And even then, it's purely speculation until we get confirmation. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 22:46, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

== Japanese -> English Name Trivia? ==

I know trivia is usually avoided until more info is known, but unless I'm overlooking one, Magearna is the only mythical pokemon to have the English name differ from the Japanese name. Isn't that a rather notable thing? [[User:Myzou|Myzou]] ([[User talk:Myzou|talk]]) 11:12, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
:It's actually the same. Gia = Gear, and the rest isn't changed at all. :|b [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] ([[User talk:Dragoness|talk]]) 15:44, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
::Yeah, since katakana is used for words that are derived from another language (including English). Like in [[Clemontic Gear|Citronic Gear]] (シトロニック'''ギア'''; which is romanized character-by-character as ''Shitoronikku Gia''). We don't do the romanizations of the separate characters, that's the secondary romanization system used here I believe. The official romanization used by the Japanese Pokémon Company is Magearna, because that's what they intended to spell. They're just limited to Japanese sounds, so that's where "gia" is from. It's a close Japanese estimate to the English word, since it's an English word that has been adapted for use in the Japanese language to mean the same thing as its English equivalent. - [[User:HyruleWarrior|HyruleWarrior]] ([[User talk:HyruleWarrior|talk]]) 19:31, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

== Date ==

February 14, ''2015''? [[User:Mega Swampert|Mega Swampert]] ([[User talk:Mega Swampert|talk]]) 13:58, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

== Type ==
I'm pretty sure Magiana is steel type. It's pretty obvious just by looking at it. Crum Mum 00:36, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
:We will not add speculation in the mainspace, however likely or reasonable it may seem. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:45, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
::Latest issue of corocoro says that it's steel/fairy. [[User:Pyritie|Pyritie]] ([[User talk:Pyritie|talk]]) 10:42, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

== A request… ==

Can someone please change <code><nowiki>It was leaked in the March issue of [[CoroCoro]] released on February 10, 2016, and it was officially revealed on February 14, 2016.</nowiki></code> to <code><nowiki>It was the first [[Generation VII]] Pokémon to be revealed to the public, in February 2016.</nowiki></code> for me? [[User:SaturnMario|SaturnMario]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|his talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|his contributions]] 18:28, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
:No, we can't. It still hasn't officially been announced that Magearna is a Generation 7 Pokémon (though I still hope that it is done as early as possible). So sorry, until official statement, it remains the way it is.[[User:Harryghost|Harryghost]] ([[User talk:Harryghost|talk]]) 23:19, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
::@Harryghost - It seems an admin has already added it though.--[[User:HyruleWarrior|HyruleWarrior]] ([[User talk:HyruleWarrior|talk]]) 23:24, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, my bad! I was absolutely oblivious of the Pokémon Sun and Moon confirmation thing when I wrote the comment. So, sorry! [[User:Harryghost|Harryghost]] ([[User talk:Harryghost|talk]]) 09:36, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

== Are we sure that Magearna will be mythical? ==

Nobody has yet leaked its stats or egg groups. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:03, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
:The [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/a-new-mythical-pokemon-has-been-discovered/ official site] explicitly states that it is Mythical. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 04:09, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

== Origin ==

Isn't Magearna also based on the moon rabbit?
[[User:Chrisbulb|Christian]] ([[User talk:Chrisbulb|talk]]) 19:34, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
:We know very little about it, so it's hard to say. So far, nothing has connected it to the moon. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 21:30, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

== Flowers ==

There appears to be a connection between Magearna and artificial blossoms, presumably generated from/with its/her hands, according to the movie trailer (and promotional artwork in merchandice on eBay).
I am monitoring closely to see if this is a Magearna trait.
[[User:Jaylaw|Jaylaw]] ([[User talk:Jaylaw|talk]]) 21:03, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

You're right. Its signature move is Fleur Cannon, and "fleur" is French for "flower". Can someone update the page with Fleur Cannon? [[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 21:46, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

== Russian name ==

Could someone please add this line to the In other languages section?

|ru=Магирна ''Magirna''|Transcription of English name

--[[User:Raltseye|Ralts]][[User talk:Raltseye|eye]] 17:11, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Magearna (Pokémon)

2016-06-15T21:47:13Z

DecafSnorlax: /* Flowers */

Can we please make this page with the NewPokemon template? --[[User:TheMaskedMeowth|TheMaskedMeowth]] ([[User talk:TheMaskedMeowth|talk]]) 23:49, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
:It's already being worked on {{u|S2daam/Magiana (Pokémon)|here}}.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 23:53, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

== Is it just me... ==

...or does her "dress" look kinda like a Poke Ball? [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 14:42, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
:Nvm it's already mentioned. Although I don't see the Poke Ball similarities in her upper chest... [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 14:45, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
::I think Magearna looks similar to Diancie in some way... Or it's just me. [[User:Dragoombanite|Dragoombanite]] ([[User talk:Dragoombanite|talk]]) 01:01, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
The SM website says that Magearna can curl into a Poke Ball shape when it's sad or asleep. Should we add that? It seems to change from this "form" as it is sent out into battle. (it was shown in the recent trailer: the one with Pikipek, Yungoos etc. The Japanese trailer for the Volcanion movie shows it curling into a ball as well I think) [[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 21:43, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

==Generation VI==

Is there a way to remove that from the categories? New Pokémon have only ever been introduced at the beginning of a Generation so Magiana is most likely a Generation VII Pokémon. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 09:33, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
:Template no longer defaults to any Generation and won't apply a Generation category until a Generation is input. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 10:09, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
::Just gonna put it out there, that in this day and age is is VERY easy for Nintendo to patch in a new hidden pokemon. Not saying that's gonna happen, but we shouldn't discount it either. --[[User:Lego3400|Lego3400]] ([[User talk:Lego3400|talk]]) 01:39, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

== Volcanion as previous ==

Technically we don't know her exact location in the Poke Dex, so we shouldn't have Volcanion listed as the previous dex entry. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 01:25, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
:It's the previous Pokémon revealed, and it's not like Volcanion skipped a number/multiple numbers, so that's probably why we have it listed as the previous Pokémon.--[[User:HyruleWarrior|HyruleWarrior]] ([[User talk:HyruleWarrior|talk]]) 23:24, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
::When we didn't have any dex info we didn't list it like that. And there's also the fact that we don't even know if Magearna is a Gen VI Pokemon - she could be a Gen VII and is being introduced early like Lucario/Zoroark/etc. If this is the case, which we have no evidence for either way, she probably isn't next to Volcanion - the starters and such are probably between them. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 03:29, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
:::It's possible that Magearna might be placed after Volcanion in the Pokédex like how Victini is after Arceus. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 05:29, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
::::Keyword: ''possible''. Not confirmed. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 16:53, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Any admin want to change this please? [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 15:40, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

== Moon Marking on Forehead? ==

I ''can'' see the supposed moon marking, but it looks more like an eye to me.
[[User:LittleOmu|LittleOmu]] ([[User talk:LittleOmu|talk]]) 03:48, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
:I don't see a moon marking. It looks more like an eye, as you said. But I think it's more just trying to "carve out" the face into a different shape than anything. [[User:Myzou|Myzou]] ([[User talk:Myzou|talk]]) 11:12, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
::FYI Especially in light of the Sun/Moon name/theme, this silvery spherical bunny pokémon is clearly a reference to the {{wp|moon rabbit}} and thus the likely game mascot for Pokémon Moon. (So yes, those are most probably supposed to be crescent moons.) [[User:Twincast|Twincast]] ([[User talk:Twincast|talk]]) 22:26, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
:::Magearna is a Mythical Pokemon, which have never once been a game mascot. So don't count on it. And even then, it's purely speculation until we get confirmation. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 22:46, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

== Japanese -> English Name Trivia? ==

I know trivia is usually avoided until more info is known, but unless I'm overlooking one, Magearna is the only mythical pokemon to have the English name differ from the Japanese name. Isn't that a rather notable thing? [[User:Myzou|Myzou]] ([[User talk:Myzou|talk]]) 11:12, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
:It's actually the same. Gia = Gear, and the rest isn't changed at all. :|b [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] ([[User talk:Dragoness|talk]]) 15:44, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
::Yeah, since katakana is used for words that are derived from another language (including English). Like in [[Clemontic Gear|Citronic Gear]] (シトロニック'''ギア'''; which is romanized character-by-character as ''Shitoronikku Gia''). We don't do the romanizations of the separate characters, that's the secondary romanization system used here I believe. The official romanization used by the Japanese Pokémon Company is Magearna, because that's what they intended to spell. They're just limited to Japanese sounds, so that's where "gia" is from. It's a close Japanese estimate to the English word, since it's an English word that has been adapted for use in the Japanese language to mean the same thing as its English equivalent. - [[User:HyruleWarrior|HyruleWarrior]] ([[User talk:HyruleWarrior|talk]]) 19:31, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

== Date ==

February 14, ''2015''? [[User:Mega Swampert|Mega Swampert]] ([[User talk:Mega Swampert|talk]]) 13:58, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

== Type ==
I'm pretty sure Magiana is steel type. It's pretty obvious just by looking at it. Crum Mum 00:36, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
:We will not add speculation in the mainspace, however likely or reasonable it may seem. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:45, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
::Latest issue of corocoro says that it's steel/fairy. [[User:Pyritie|Pyritie]] ([[User talk:Pyritie|talk]]) 10:42, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

== A request… ==

Can someone please change <code><nowiki>It was leaked in the March issue of [[CoroCoro]] released on February 10, 2016, and it was officially revealed on February 14, 2016.</nowiki></code> to <code><nowiki>It was the first [[Generation VII]] Pokémon to be revealed to the public, in February 2016.</nowiki></code> for me? [[User:SaturnMario|SaturnMario]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|his talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|his contributions]] 18:28, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
:No, we can't. It still hasn't officially been announced that Magearna is a Generation 7 Pokémon (though I still hope that it is done as early as possible). So sorry, until official statement, it remains the way it is.[[User:Harryghost|Harryghost]] ([[User talk:Harryghost|talk]]) 23:19, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
::@Harryghost - It seems an admin has already added it though.--[[User:HyruleWarrior|HyruleWarrior]] ([[User talk:HyruleWarrior|talk]]) 23:24, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, my bad! I was absolutely oblivious of the Pokémon Sun and Moon confirmation thing when I wrote the comment. So, sorry! [[User:Harryghost|Harryghost]] ([[User talk:Harryghost|talk]]) 09:36, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

== Are we sure that Magearna will be mythical? ==

Nobody has yet leaked its stats or egg groups. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:03, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
:The [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/a-new-mythical-pokemon-has-been-discovered/ official site] explicitly states that it is Mythical. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 04:09, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

== Origin ==

Isn't Magearna also based on the moon rabbit?
[[User:Chrisbulb|Christian]] ([[User talk:Chrisbulb|talk]]) 19:34, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
:We know very little about it, so it's hard to say. So far, nothing has connected it to the moon. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 21:30, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

== Flowers ==

There appears to be a connection between Magearna and artificial blossoms, presumably generated from/with its/her hands, according to the movie trailer (and promotional artwork in merchandice on eBay).
I am monitoring closely to see if this is a Magearna trait.
[[User:Jaylaw|Jaylaw]] ([[User talk:Jaylaw|talk]]) 21:03, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

You're right. Its signature move is Fleur Cannon, and "fleur" is French for "flower" [[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 21:46, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

== Russian name ==

Could someone please add this line to the In other languages section?

|ru=Магирна ''Magirna''|Transcription of English name

--[[User:Raltseye|Ralts]][[User talk:Raltseye|eye]] 17:11, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Magearna (Pokémon)

2016-06-15T21:46:56Z

DecafSnorlax: /* Flowers */

Can we please make this page with the NewPokemon template? --[[User:TheMaskedMeowth|TheMaskedMeowth]] ([[User talk:TheMaskedMeowth|talk]]) 23:49, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
:It's already being worked on {{u|S2daam/Magiana (Pokémon)|here}}.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 23:53, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

== Is it just me... ==

...or does her "dress" look kinda like a Poke Ball? [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 14:42, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
:Nvm it's already mentioned. Although I don't see the Poke Ball similarities in her upper chest... [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 14:45, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
::I think Magearna looks similar to Diancie in some way... Or it's just me. [[User:Dragoombanite|Dragoombanite]] ([[User talk:Dragoombanite|talk]]) 01:01, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
The SM website says that Magearna can curl into a Poke Ball shape when it's sad or asleep. Should we add that? It seems to change from this "form" as it is sent out into battle. (it was shown in the recent trailer: the one with Pikipek, Yungoos etc. The Japanese trailer for the Volcanion movie shows it curling into a ball as well I think) [[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 21:43, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

==Generation VI==

Is there a way to remove that from the categories? New Pokémon have only ever been introduced at the beginning of a Generation so Magiana is most likely a Generation VII Pokémon. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 09:33, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
:Template no longer defaults to any Generation and won't apply a Generation category until a Generation is input. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 10:09, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
::Just gonna put it out there, that in this day and age is is VERY easy for Nintendo to patch in a new hidden pokemon. Not saying that's gonna happen, but we shouldn't discount it either. --[[User:Lego3400|Lego3400]] ([[User talk:Lego3400|talk]]) 01:39, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

== Volcanion as previous ==

Technically we don't know her exact location in the Poke Dex, so we shouldn't have Volcanion listed as the previous dex entry. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 01:25, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
:It's the previous Pokémon revealed, and it's not like Volcanion skipped a number/multiple numbers, so that's probably why we have it listed as the previous Pokémon.--[[User:HyruleWarrior|HyruleWarrior]] ([[User talk:HyruleWarrior|talk]]) 23:24, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
::When we didn't have any dex info we didn't list it like that. And there's also the fact that we don't even know if Magearna is a Gen VI Pokemon - she could be a Gen VII and is being introduced early like Lucario/Zoroark/etc. If this is the case, which we have no evidence for either way, she probably isn't next to Volcanion - the starters and such are probably between them. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 03:29, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
:::It's possible that Magearna might be placed after Volcanion in the Pokédex like how Victini is after Arceus. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 05:29, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
::::Keyword: ''possible''. Not confirmed. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 16:53, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Any admin want to change this please? [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 15:40, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

== Moon Marking on Forehead? ==

I ''can'' see the supposed moon marking, but it looks more like an eye to me.
[[User:LittleOmu|LittleOmu]] ([[User talk:LittleOmu|talk]]) 03:48, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
:I don't see a moon marking. It looks more like an eye, as you said. But I think it's more just trying to "carve out" the face into a different shape than anything. [[User:Myzou|Myzou]] ([[User talk:Myzou|talk]]) 11:12, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
::FYI Especially in light of the Sun/Moon name/theme, this silvery spherical bunny pokémon is clearly a reference to the {{wp|moon rabbit}} and thus the likely game mascot for Pokémon Moon. (So yes, those are most probably supposed to be crescent moons.) [[User:Twincast|Twincast]] ([[User talk:Twincast|talk]]) 22:26, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
:::Magearna is a Mythical Pokemon, which have never once been a game mascot. So don't count on it. And even then, it's purely speculation until we get confirmation. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 22:46, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

== Japanese -> English Name Trivia? ==

I know trivia is usually avoided until more info is known, but unless I'm overlooking one, Magearna is the only mythical pokemon to have the English name differ from the Japanese name. Isn't that a rather notable thing? [[User:Myzou|Myzou]] ([[User talk:Myzou|talk]]) 11:12, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
:It's actually the same. Gia = Gear, and the rest isn't changed at all. :|b [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] ([[User talk:Dragoness|talk]]) 15:44, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
::Yeah, since katakana is used for words that are derived from another language (including English). Like in [[Clemontic Gear|Citronic Gear]] (シトロニック'''ギア'''; which is romanized character-by-character as ''Shitoronikku Gia''). We don't do the romanizations of the separate characters, that's the secondary romanization system used here I believe. The official romanization used by the Japanese Pokémon Company is Magearna, because that's what they intended to spell. They're just limited to Japanese sounds, so that's where "gia" is from. It's a close Japanese estimate to the English word, since it's an English word that has been adapted for use in the Japanese language to mean the same thing as its English equivalent. - [[User:HyruleWarrior|HyruleWarrior]] ([[User talk:HyruleWarrior|talk]]) 19:31, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

== Date ==

February 14, ''2015''? [[User:Mega Swampert|Mega Swampert]] ([[User talk:Mega Swampert|talk]]) 13:58, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

== Type ==
I'm pretty sure Magiana is steel type. It's pretty obvious just by looking at it. Crum Mum 00:36, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
:We will not add speculation in the mainspace, however likely or reasonable it may seem. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:45, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
::Latest issue of corocoro says that it's steel/fairy. [[User:Pyritie|Pyritie]] ([[User talk:Pyritie|talk]]) 10:42, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

== A request… ==

Can someone please change <code><nowiki>It was leaked in the March issue of [[CoroCoro]] released on February 10, 2016, and it was officially revealed on February 14, 2016.</nowiki></code> to <code><nowiki>It was the first [[Generation VII]] Pokémon to be revealed to the public, in February 2016.</nowiki></code> for me? [[User:SaturnMario|SaturnMario]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|his talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|his contributions]] 18:28, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
:No, we can't. It still hasn't officially been announced that Magearna is a Generation 7 Pokémon (though I still hope that it is done as early as possible). So sorry, until official statement, it remains the way it is.[[User:Harryghost|Harryghost]] ([[User talk:Harryghost|talk]]) 23:19, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
::@Harryghost - It seems an admin has already added it though.--[[User:HyruleWarrior|HyruleWarrior]] ([[User talk:HyruleWarrior|talk]]) 23:24, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, my bad! I was absolutely oblivious of the Pokémon Sun and Moon confirmation thing when I wrote the comment. So, sorry! [[User:Harryghost|Harryghost]] ([[User talk:Harryghost|talk]]) 09:36, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

== Are we sure that Magearna will be mythical? ==

Nobody has yet leaked its stats or egg groups. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:03, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
:The [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/a-new-mythical-pokemon-has-been-discovered/ official site] explicitly states that it is Mythical. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 04:09, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

== Origin ==

Isn't Magearna also based on the moon rabbit?
[[User:Chrisbulb|Christian]] ([[User talk:Chrisbulb|talk]]) 19:34, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
:We know very little about it, so it's hard to say. So far, nothing has connected it to the moon. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 21:30, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

== Flowers ==

There appears to be a connection between Magearna and artificial blossoms, presumably generated from/with its/her hands, according to the movie trailer (and promotional artwork in merchandice on eBay).
I am monitoring closely to see if this is a Magearna trait.
[[User:Jaylaw|Jaylaw]] ([[User talk:Jaylaw|talk]]) 21:03, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
You're right. Its signature move is Fleur Cannon, and "fleur" is French for "flower" [[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 21:46, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

== Russian name ==

Could someone please add this line to the In other languages section?

|ru=Магирна ''Magirna''|Transcription of English name

--[[User:Raltseye|Ralts]][[User talk:Raltseye|eye]] 17:11, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Magearna (Pokémon)

2016-06-15T21:44:09Z

DecafSnorlax: /* Is it just me... */

Can we please make this page with the NewPokemon template? --[[User:TheMaskedMeowth|TheMaskedMeowth]] ([[User talk:TheMaskedMeowth|talk]]) 23:49, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
:It's already being worked on {{u|S2daam/Magiana (Pokémon)|here}}.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 23:53, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

== Is it just me... ==

...or does her "dress" look kinda like a Poke Ball? [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 14:42, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
:Nvm it's already mentioned. Although I don't see the Poke Ball similarities in her upper chest... [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 14:45, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
::I think Magearna looks similar to Diancie in some way... Or it's just me. [[User:Dragoombanite|Dragoombanite]] ([[User talk:Dragoombanite|talk]]) 01:01, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
The SM website says that Magearna can curl into a Poke Ball shape when it's sad or asleep. Should we add that? It seems to change from this "form" as it is sent out into battle. (it was shown in the recent trailer: the one with Pikipek, Yungoos etc. The Japanese trailer for the Volcanion movie shows it curling into a ball as well I think) [[User:DecafSnorlax|DecafSnorlax]] ([[User talk:DecafSnorlax|talk]]) 21:43, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

==Generation VI==

Is there a way to remove that from the categories? New Pokémon have only ever been introduced at the beginning of a Generation so Magiana is most likely a Generation VII Pokémon. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 09:33, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
:Template no longer defaults to any Generation and won't apply a Generation category until a Generation is input. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 10:09, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
::Just gonna put it out there, that in this day and age is is VERY easy for Nintendo to patch in a new hidden pokemon. Not saying that's gonna happen, but we shouldn't discount it either. --[[User:Lego3400|Lego3400]] ([[User talk:Lego3400|talk]]) 01:39, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

== Volcanion as previous ==

Technically we don't know her exact location in the Poke Dex, so we shouldn't have Volcanion listed as the previous dex entry. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 01:25, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
:It's the previous Pokémon revealed, and it's not like Volcanion skipped a number/multiple numbers, so that's probably why we have it listed as the previous Pokémon.--[[User:HyruleWarrior|HyruleWarrior]] ([[User talk:HyruleWarrior|talk]]) 23:24, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
::When we didn't have any dex info we didn't list it like that. And there's also the fact that we don't even know if Magearna is a Gen VI Pokemon - she could be a Gen VII and is being introduced early like Lucario/Zoroark/etc. If this is the case, which we have no evidence for either way, she probably isn't next to Volcanion - the starters and such are probably between them. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 03:29, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
:::It's possible that Magearna might be placed after Volcanion in the Pokédex like how Victini is after Arceus. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 05:29, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
::::Keyword: ''possible''. Not confirmed. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 16:53, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Any admin want to change this please? [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 15:40, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

== Moon Marking on Forehead? ==

I ''can'' see the supposed moon marking, but it looks more like an eye to me.
[[User:LittleOmu|LittleOmu]] ([[User talk:LittleOmu|talk]]) 03:48, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
:I don't see a moon marking. It looks more like an eye, as you said. But I think it's more just trying to "carve out" the face into a different shape than anything. [[User:Myzou|Myzou]] ([[User talk:Myzou|talk]]) 11:12, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
::FYI Especially in light of the Sun/Moon name/theme, this silvery spherical bunny pokémon is clearly a reference to the {{wp|moon rabbit}} and thus the likely game mascot for Pokémon Moon. (So yes, those are most probably supposed to be crescent moons.) [[User:Twincast|Twincast]] ([[User talk:Twincast|talk]]) 22:26, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
:::Magearna is a Mythical Pokemon, which have never once been a game mascot. So don't count on it. And even then, it's purely speculation until we get confirmation. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 22:46, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

== Japanese -> English Name Trivia? ==

I know trivia is usually avoided until more info is known, but unless I'm overlooking one, Magearna is the only mythical pokemon to have the English name differ from the Japanese name. Isn't that a rather notable thing? [[User:Myzou|Myzou]] ([[User talk:Myzou|talk]]) 11:12, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
:It's actually the same. Gia = Gear, and the rest isn't changed at all. :|b [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] ([[User talk:Dragoness|talk]]) 15:44, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
::Yeah, since katakana is used for words that are derived from another language (including English). Like in [[Clemontic Gear|Citronic Gear]] (シトロニック'''ギア'''; which is romanized character-by-character as ''Shitoronikku Gia''). We don't do the romanizations of the separate characters, that's the secondary romanization system used here I believe. The official romanization used by the Japanese Pokémon Company is Magearna, because that's what they intended to spell. They're just limited to Japanese sounds, so that's where "gia" is from. It's a close Japanese estimate to the English word, since it's an English word that has been adapted for use in the Japanese language to mean the same thing as its English equivalent. - [[User:HyruleWarrior|HyruleWarrior]] ([[User talk:HyruleWarrior|talk]]) 19:31, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

== Date ==

February 14, ''2015''? [[User:Mega Swampert|Mega Swampert]] ([[User talk:Mega Swampert|talk]]) 13:58, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

== Type ==
I'm pretty sure Magiana is steel type. It's pretty obvious just by looking at it. Crum Mum 00:36, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
:We will not add speculation in the mainspace, however likely or reasonable it may seem. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:45, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
::Latest issue of corocoro says that it's steel/fairy. [[User:Pyritie|Pyritie]] ([[User talk:Pyritie|talk]]) 10:42, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

== A request… ==

Can someone please change <code><nowiki>It was leaked in the March issue of [[CoroCoro]] released on February 10, 2016, and it was officially revealed on February 14, 2016.</nowiki></code> to <code><nowiki>It was the first [[Generation VII]] Pokémon to be revealed to the public, in February 2016.</nowiki></code> for me? [[User:SaturnMario|SaturnMario]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|his talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|his contributions]] 18:28, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
:No, we can't. It still hasn't officially been announced that Magearna is a Generation 7 Pokémon (though I still hope that it is done as early as possible). So sorry, until official statement, it remains the way it is.[[User:Harryghost|Harryghost]] ([[User talk:Harryghost|talk]]) 23:19, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
::@Harryghost - It seems an admin has already added it though.--[[User:HyruleWarrior|HyruleWarrior]] ([[User talk:HyruleWarrior|talk]]) 23:24, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, my bad! I was absolutely oblivious of the Pokémon Sun and Moon confirmation thing when I wrote the comment. So, sorry! [[User:Harryghost|Harryghost]] ([[User talk:Harryghost|talk]]) 09:36, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

== Are we sure that Magearna will be mythical? ==

Nobody has yet leaked its stats or egg groups. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:03, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
:The [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/a-new-mythical-pokemon-has-been-discovered/ official site] explicitly states that it is Mythical. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 04:09, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

== Origin ==

Isn't Magearna also based on the moon rabbit?
[[User:Chrisbulb|Christian]] ([[User talk:Chrisbulb|talk]]) 19:34, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
:We know very little about it, so it's hard to say. So far, nothing has connected it to the moon. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 21:30, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

== Flowers ==

There appears to be a connection between Magearna and artificial blossoms, presumably generated from/with its/her hands, according to the movie trailer (and promotional artwork in merchandice on eBay).
I am monitoring closely to see if this is a Magearna trait.
[[User:Jaylaw|Jaylaw]] ([[User talk:Jaylaw|talk]]) 21:03, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

== Russian name ==

Could someone please add this line to the In other languages section?

|ru=Магирна ''Magirna''|Transcription of English name

--[[User:Raltseye|Ralts]][[User talk:Raltseye|eye]] 17:11, 14 June 2016 (UTC)