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Talk:Virbank Complex

2014-03-20T03:34:52Z

Celibi25:

== Items (Outer) ==
The ''Silk Scarf'' and ''Pearl'' (hidden) mentioned here that are available in the outer area are the same ones that are mentioned in the item list of '''Virbank City'''. Either these items should be removed from one of the two locations or the fact should be mentioned in both the pages.

--[[User:Ishu bagaria|Ishu bagaria]] ([[User talk:Ishu bagaria|talk]]) 15:51, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
:I am sure Silk Scarf is in the Virbank Complex not Virbank City, I don't rememeber if that also applies to Pearl. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 17:06, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

== Pokemon (Outer) ==
According to the habitat section of the pokedex, magnimite are not found in the outside area of the Virbank Complex. Is this an Error?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] ([[User talk:Celibi25|talk]]) 03:34, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Ash's Pikachu/Archive 2

2011-07-27T16:32:34Z

Celibi25: /* Pika-pi */

==Archives==

*[[Talk:Ash's Pikachu/Archive 1|Archive 1]]

==Ability==
Pikachu's ability isn't unknown! Remember in the episode when Ash's Pikachu's static (um... not exactly paralyze) Roark's Rampardos! --[[User:Metagross72|Metagross72]] 05:18, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:...why are we even ''thinking'' about abilities in the anime? --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 05:30, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:: I agree, I think Pokemon could potentially have both abilities available to their species or even none at all. It doesn't follow the games that closely, so there's no way we can confirm that that is the case. [[User:Gastlys mama|Gastlys mama]] 22:09, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
::: {{p|Pikachu}} only has one ability. --[[User:Metagross72|Metagross72]] 02:44, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
::::In the anime. It can also Combine with Swellow to turn into a flying bird of electricity.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:::::I know this is a late reply but thought it should be stated. It is highly possible that Pikachu also has Volt Absorb or what ever its called. In the battle against Roxanne's Nosepass it absorbed the Zap Cannon and regained strength which in the anime is the same as health. I agree with those above stating that abilities are different in the anime world. After all things can be done differently in the anime then in the games.--[[User:Lycos Ex Mortis|Lycos Ex Mortis]] 16:16, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

== Counterparts ==

We could have a section for counterparts to Ash's Pikachu, for example, Sparky, Silver's Chikorita, Aoi's Shinx. I'm pretty sure there are more, and I think this might be worth including on this page. Just a thought! [[User:Gastlys mama|Gastlys mama]] 22:09, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
:Well, not in Pikachu's article. There are '''WAY''' too many in my opinion. That's basically almost every Pokémon that a trainer started w/ in the anime. Good thought, though. --'''[[User:Cat2killer|Catu]] [[User talk:Cat2killer|the Cat]]''' 21:12, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

== Not big things ==

Hi guys! I have 2 thigs to say!
1. I don't understand the last trivia fact about Pikachu being ash's only pokemon... etc, could somebody explain this to me? maybe it's a error and should be erased.
2. We all know that [[Ash's Pikachu]] has never been on its poke ball not even once, well only in ''that'' movie, but my point is that would Ash's still have that poke ball? You know, when he goes to a pokemon center we don't see that unique thunder poke ball of pikachu (because he is always outside of it), so I don't know, why carrying it around if he doesn't use it? if you think this last thing is stupid well then don't pay attention to it. =)[[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 18:29, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh man! i just finished checking the page and saw the that poke ball and there it says that ''ash carries it around all the time'' just like it had posted this haha mmm so nevermind![[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 18:29, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

== Doesn't he look cute? ==

Um,excuse me,but her exact line was "You look so cute",in the english version. Is that line from another languages version? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 18:34, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

*sigh* I know exactly what you mean, Rose. In my opinion, we shouldn't be caring anymore.

I'm afraid to say that this gender debate is just... pathetic. It's kind of sad the way this debate has gone on as long as this, as if its an important election. I really need an explanation as to why the large amount of male evidence isn't enough to confirm the gender of a CARTOON mouse. Why do we need someone to tell us? Aipom puts on a dress, and its a female. Pikachu puts on a kimono... OH NO! That doesn't mean its male! Pikachu puts on a maid outfit and looks embarrassed. NOPE! Not yet." Jeez.

The female evidence is absolutely terrible. Buneary not knowing Pikachu's gender? Pokémon can regonise the gender of other Pokémon, as can animals. For example, Pokémon know that they have to be with a mate of the opposite gender to breed, otherwise they will refuse. Therefore if Buneary is female and it wants to mate, then Pikachu being female would be disturbing. And the idea of Misty featuring Pikachu in dresses... it's a joke in Misty's girlish mind. Does this suddenly mean it's female? I bet even if we saw a female Pikachu in the anime with a heart-shaped tail, this website would still stubbornly say "Pikachu's from Kanto. Gender differences don't apply". And does Pikachu have to be a girl to rival with Bayleef? Is that a scientific fact? No.

I really, really wish they would just confirm the gender as male. Because it is. I know I shouldn't be posting about this because its considered an "offence" to vote, but it would be really good if a regular would just say "Ok, everyone. Ash's Pikachu is male. Thank you". Almost everyone else considers this. Yeah. [[User:Dusknoir477]] 11:37, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

: >> I think Pikachu is female..But,anyway,can I delete that line from the article,it's incorrect,see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFZkdgsgzP8&feature=related. I tried deleting it before,but it looks like it's back up [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 02:28, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I watched it, you're absolutely right, May doesn't refer to it as a male. But that doesn't mean it isn't... I don't think I'll ever be convinced that Pikachu is a girl, because I've always known it to be male. I'm sure lots of people considered that, and therefore, that's one of the big reasons why I think its male; because so many fans picked up vibes that it Pika was a boy, it must be so. Also, I've got lots of Pokémon books from my childhood; all of them say that Pikachu is a boy in them. One was a novel of the first film that I bought for my younger brother, which says this so explicitly its as if the book is trying to side with me. Creepy.

I still can't think of any good reason why it would be female. I can counter all of the female evidence on Pikachu's article.

1. Although its true that Pikachu is from Kanto where all Pikachu of both genders have "male" tails, now that gender differences have been introduced, we can forgot about that now. The world of Pokémon is always changing and contnuity is always corrupted, and regarding certain things like this is the only way to fix it. And no, its tail would not have changed into a heart if it was female. Jeez, if only gender differences were made ages ago, we wouldn't have this problem!

2. Misty picturing Pikachu in dresses. Well, firstly, Misty is a girl. Secondly, Misty likes Pikachu, and would want to picture Pikachu as a girl. Thirdly, Misty's visions were her point of view and not part of the continuity. Basically, almost nothing can be drawn from this evidence. In that Miltank episode, Pikachu felt uncomfortable dressed as a maid, so therefore, from Pikachu's point of view, it doesn't like dresses, meaning that it most likely isn't a girl.

3. Buneary not knowing Pikachu's gender is the dumbest piece of evidence that I have ever, ever heard. Come on, really. I would like to take a little moment to explain real game "love" physics. :P Say that there is a large group of male Mamoswine and a larg group of female Mamoswine in a blizzard. The members in both groups would like to start families with each other, but they can't because in each group, each member is the same gender. So they don't mate. Then, both groups see each other and form a larger group of both genders. Now, they can mate and can start breeding, because there are both males and females, meaning plenty of Swinub eggs will be laid.

So, one must come to the basic conclusion that, if a female Buneary is perfectly capable to fall and love and breed with a male Buneary in the games, but not with another female, then Dawn's Buneary successfully feeling obliged to mate with Pikachu means that Pikachu is the opposite gender of her: Male. Either that, or Buneary is male, which is definitely not true, as Buneary has worn dresses like a girl and even went into a girls fashion competition. Therefore, Buneary is female and Pikachu is male. It's obvious! Remember... The Pokémon series is based on the games! (although, then again, some things that happened in the anime aren't possible in the games, like the electric-harming-ground thing, but we are talking about common sense here; a female would tell the difference between a male and female).

4. Pikachu has gained quite a few rivals throughout the series, the most notable being Chikorita/Bayleef, who was confirmed to be female. I do not know why it would be considered female just because of this. Both genders can rival with one another. Whilst there is no evidence to say that I am wrong, there isn't evidence to say that I am right about this point, so this would be discarded in my book.

5. One that got deleted a while ago was the point that Pikachu showed interest in feminine items such as perfume. I can counter it. I think the reason why it was fascinated was because it was simply curious of the human world. Remember, Pikachu, before being captured by Prof Oak, was a wild animal. It would be fascinated by human things and would wander about eyeing the merchandise on sale, whether it was aimed at men or women. You know... it may look at a bottle of perfume, then look at a digital watch, then a necklace, then a chemisty set. This really doesn't explain anything about genders then, does it?

There you go. In my opinion, you can't very much counter the male evidence, especially ones like Pikachu being referred to as Ash's brother (a very good point).

I guess we'll just have to face the facts. Pikachu's gender will probably never be fully confirmed. Everyone's just too stubborn to do so. It's like in the Simpsons where Springfield's state won't be revealed. It's getting very, very late now, and as episodes go on, Pikachu remain a seemingly-genderless creature. But it isn't. It's male. - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Dusknoir477}} ([[User talk:Dusknoir477|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dusknoir477|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

Just a friendly reminder of the giant red letters at the top of this page. Next person who posts about this gets a short block. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 21:50, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

== Should The . . . ==

. . . Gender Debate really be on this page? It just seems like a bunch of unencyclopedic speculation. ''[[User:ShinjiLover|シンジ]]'''''[[Paul|Shinji]]'''[[User talk:ShinjiLover|Lover]],'''[[Special:Contributions/ShinjiLover|Edits]]''' 02:24, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

== Possibly incorrect information on Gender Debate? ==
I realize this is pretty trivial, but on the section of Pikachu's Gender Debate, one of pieces of information supporting Pikachu's gender being male states something around the lines of Pikachu from Kanto have not been shown to have indentations on their tails, but in Pikachu's Goodbye (EP039) multiple wild Pikachu that appear in that episode have indentations on their tails. So should I edited that piece of information to be correct, or is it too trivial to matter?{{unsigned|Spoon-Fork}}
:No they didn't--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]•[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 06:18, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
::Those dents were merley wounds from possibly being attacked by other Pokémon. Saying that they are gender differences is pure speculation. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:25, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Umm, saying that they are wounds is also pure speculation, as well, so technically, you shouldn't even say that on here. Besides, are they actually wounds? I'm pretty sure wounds would not be on the exact same spot on all those Pikachu's tails. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 12:51, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Guys, would you mind going and watching [[EP005|Showdown at Pewter City]]? Brock excplicitly calls him a he. [[User:Torngentleman2|MAMOSWINEPwnz! (Torngentleman2)]] 09:52, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

== Double edge???? ==

I think Pikachu can't do double edge.
May i have some proofs please.
--♫♪[[User talk:Adyniz|'''Adyniz''']]♪♫ 15:39, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

:Well, there are points pointing both ways. Supporting the fact that Ash's Pikachu might know {{m|Double-Edge}} is because it can learn the move through [[TM10]] in [[Generation I]] (and later through a move tutor in [[Generation III]]). Supporting the fact that it might not know Double-Edge is because it was the stadium announcer who mentioned it in [[EP079|''Friend and Foe Alike'']], increasing the chance that it could have been a dub mistranslation where it was originally a different move in the Japanese version.

:My [[$1|2¢]]: While it's possible that Pikachu using Double-Edge might have been a mistranslation, if it isn't a mistranslation, odds are it's not an error of any sort. The episode in question is a Generation I-era episode, and Pikachu most definitely had a legal avenue for learning Double-Edge in that generation. Conclusion: Could somebody double-check the Japanese version of the episode? --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:03, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Today i watched [[EP079|Friend and Foe Alike]] & it was true that pikachu used Double-Edge in this episode.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 15:05, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Male in Japan As Well! ==

Have any of you dared to watch Electric Soldier Porygon? ([[EP038]]) If so, then if you watched the one with subtitles on YouTube, you would have heard Nurse Joy call him a he. And that was in Japan! As for other countries, Pikachu is called a he in Showdown at Pewter City (EP005). I am changing it from Male (confirmed in dub only) to Male. [[User:Torngentleman2|MAMOSWINEPwnz! (Torngentleman2)]] 16:52, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

:Your operative word is "subtitles". Those subtitles are not official. Ergo, they cannot be used as evidence. Your edits concerning the matter will be undone.

:In fact, the chances of us ever getting official subtitles for that episode vanished thanks to over 700 seizures. Even if the rest of the series were to get an uncut subtitled release one of these days, [[EP038]] would not be included due to being locked down by the Japanese government. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 17:04, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
That's not evidence at all, but I am almost certain Pikachu has been referred to as male in the Japanese version. I recall Meowth using the word "otoko" in reference to him in one of the Lt. Surge episodes, for example. I don't exactly watch the anime (hardly ever), so I can't really give any other example. [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 06:48, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

=== On a different tangent: ===
[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=1044357&postcount=62]
Since Piplup is confirmed male as of [[DP137]], this either means Piplup goes both ways or we just confirmed Pikachu's gender. - '''[[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]]'''- 03:23, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

== Belong? ==

Does the gender debate really belong on this article? It's mostly speculation based on stuff in the anime. I believe it should be on the forums or in a separate namespace. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 23:53, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
:It's about Ash's Pikachu and is a valid part of the fandom. No touchy.... except to make it better because its a serious piece of crap right now. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 00:03, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
::Fandom. Not encyclopedic knowledge. It seems like a topic for the forums, not a mainspace article. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 00:13, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I deleted the hints and rewrote the paragraph. Are we happy now? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 00:21, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
::::You could put them on a forum discussing the topic. It's kinda annoying to come to this talk page and see fifty pages worth of debate over the topic when that kind of stuff belongs on the forum. {{unsigned|Galladeon}}
:::::I'm not putting them anywhere. If people want to discuss they can do it themselves. And of course, we all know that this kind of fancruft belongs in the forums. There's a big message at the top of the page essentially telling you to {{tt|STFU|but in nicer words, because we are nice people}}. Now please, stop talking. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 00:27, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Now this is real proof...unlike how someone said that Pikachu was a girl because it liked the perfume. Don't girls put on perfume that the guys like?--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 03:50, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Let me ask something real quick, and hopefully this'll help end the gender debate once and for all. (Either that, or make it worse...) According to [[Dawn's Buneary]], that particular Buneary is confirmed female. By the game mechanics and what we've seen on the Anime, Pokémon don't have homosexual tendencies. Therefore, isn't Buneary's HUGE crush on Ash's Pikachu evidence enough that Pikachu is a male? Or is Buneary's gender not really confirmed? [[User:Gear-Richie|Gear-Richie]] 23:22, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
:That's not new, it's been brought up hundreds of times before. At least you're trying to help though. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 00:02, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

:Well then, for my personal enrichment, perhaps, what refutation was used to discard this line of reasoning? [[User:Gear-Richie|Gear-Richie]] 17:21, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== "However, Pikachu is the only Electric-type Pokémon owned by a main character which can evolve." ==

Is this even necessary. I understand that for a long time Pikachu has been the only electric type pokemon owned by a main character. Then pachirusu came and someone added this. What the heck!!! Is this just trying to make pikachu seem more unique. I honestly don't think this is necesarry trivia. --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 16:14, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
:Well, it is technically true, even though Pikachu's never going to. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:34, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
::I know it's true and I know it's not going to evolve but I don't think it is necessary trivia. Sould we take it out? --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 21:42, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I have to agree with Landfish7. I was just reading the trivia and I came across it and it was like, {{tt|"what the heck?"|is is seriously necessary?}}.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 03:47, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

== "By accident"? ==

Couldn't Pikachu have been born with volt tackle,but not know it,until it "learned" it in that episode? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 02:33, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:That's unlikely. Considering the way Aipom learned Double Hit. It was "improvised" where it's attack would look like it was split into two (like Double Team) and that turned out to be Double Hit. Pikachu's Quick attack + Electricty = Volt Tackle. It's most likey [[anime physics]]. --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 22:03, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
::Even more likely is the fact that anime=/=games. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 22:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

== Pikachu's Past ==

*What was Pikachu's original life like before Oak's Lab in Pallet Town? --[[User:Kid Sonic|Kid Sonic]] 14:36, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

:That might take a special in its own right to explore. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:02, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok, you want to know Pikachu's past? Pikachu was wild before professor oak caught it and brought it to his lab (Pokemon Yellow). This also explains why Pikachu had a poke ball in the first place. Has anybody watched Pikachu's Goodbye? That explains that the pikachu can live in trees, and if i remember correctly, pikachu found the tree that it used to live in in that episode. [[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 18:33, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 18:34, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

== Pikachu's Language ==

In [[DP134]] while Ash, Brock and Konoha are searching for Dawn, Pikachu says, "PikaPika". Would this be considered PikachuLanguage for Dawn? Also Piplup (in Japanese) says, "Pochacha", which may be that Piplup's speech has some consistency as well.~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Ποκεμανιακα0β]] 21:22, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:"PikaPika" is a standard in Pikachu's language. It uses it for a lot of things. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:24, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

:However... I believe I heard Pikachu give out a different name for Dawn in one of the most recent episode. It sounded much different from his normal speech. Ugh... I can't remember... It was like "Pikaka" or "Pikachu-ka" or something... Can someone who has DP143 and DP144 rewatch them? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:58, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

::Okay, i will try to rewatch the episode. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:07, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

In [[DP134]] it did sound like Pikachu said "Pikaka" for Dawn--[[User:Ashanddawn4evr|Ashanddawn4evr]] 22:36, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

== Pikachu-Poké Ball! ==

I made a sprite for the pikachu Poké Ball. It is really rubbish, but I thought maybe we could use it instead of the normal Poké Ball, at least until someone uploads a better one. Here it is[[File:POKBAL~2.png|The PokéBall|right|thumb|2500px]] [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 13:34, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
:Given that it only appeared once, so no.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 13:36, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
::I think it shouldn't be used. He used regular Poké Balls after to recall it according the caption in the article. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 16:55, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
:::He also uses regular Poké Balls for his Tauros, and we still have a Safari Ball sprite on that page. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 17:30, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
::::True. In the case that this is used, we need a better sprite. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 17:33, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

== Ketchup? ==

I'm new so excuse me if I am wrong but shouldn't it be mentioned somewhere about his love of ketchup?[[User:Mudkipzrule|Mudkipz Rule]] 19:19, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
:Pikachu loves ketchup. What you are looking for is in the article. [[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 18:39, 19 July 2010

== Phobia of being photographed. ==

It says in the episode Todd Snap appears that Pikachu is afraid of having its picture taken.[[User:Mudkipzrule|Mudkipz Rule]] 21:42, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

== Pikachu batting Tsutarja in BW007 ==

Just curious but is there a specific reason as to why this was deleted?? It is a confirmed event so I don't see a problem with putting it in there.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 20:54, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok seriously who keeps on deleting this come on its a confirmed event jeez I don't see what the big deal???[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 02:09, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

:Adding it in other pages are important. But Pikachu is this focus. Not every minor details will be added to the ''Ash's Pikachu'' page. If not, there will be a whole list of wild Pokémon that Pikachu had battled with. --[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 02:12, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok but this isn't just any wild pokemon because Ash might capture this Tsutarja. Thats why I put it on the page and thats why I think it belongs on the page.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 02:18, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

:Pikachu battling with [[Ash's Pidgeot|Pidgeotto]] or [[Ash's Swellow|Taillow]]? They are not added too. Just leave it for now, unless it's super-notable.--[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 02:22, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

So why is mamepato battling it or mijumaru battling it noteworthy I put it on miju's page too. What's the difference??? And why does it bother anyone that what I don't understand.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 03:07, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
: Because they're new while Pikachu predates them by over 660 something episodes (and Mamepato REALLY needs more info) [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 03:12, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

:::{{tt|Although I have not much say in this|I'm not an Admin :p}}, Pikachu had been with Ash for more than 4 series while Mamepato and Mijumaru are ''new'' Pokémon owned by Ash. However, I think that in future times, all those not important will be deleted; those notable will remain. --[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 03:14, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Ya so for now why can't it be left if it can be deleted later then just leave it know as a reference so that when someone comes on to pikachu's page they can see that it will be doing something in this episode.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 03:26, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

==Should Ash's Pikachu know Leer?==

*In his move list, it says that Pikachu knows Leer, even though it says in the episode it was used that it didn't actually know the move, and just made a funny face. [[User:Teddy6ursa|Teddy6ursa]] 18:09, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

== Pichu ==
I think we should put pichu as Pkachu's pre-evolution in the info box. The reason for this being that Pichu is a guaranteed product of any Pikachu and Riachu breeding and that it is not like other baby Pokémon that need an item to be produced. This meens that every Pikachu including Ash's Pikachu was at one point a Pichu.--'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]][[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''' 21:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
:The last time this was brought up: ''Actually, yes they all start out life as Pichu. It's only the Pokémon with pre-evolved forms GenIII and beyond that can be born not as there baby forms i.e. Marill. It doesn't really matter. Ash didn't have Pikachu when it was Pichu so therefore it can't be counted. [[User:Kenji-girl|☆ケンジガール]] 23:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)''. And I agree. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:32, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

== Redirect Request ==

Could someone please create a redirect for "Pikachu (anime)", seems odd that there isnt one already. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 20:57, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

== Pikachu's Poké Ball ==

About Pikachu's Poké Ball. The Poké Ball with a lighting bolt mark from Professor Oak's Laboratory has never been owned by Ash (Gary's Blastoise is held in a regular Poké Ball and not in the Poké Ball labeled in Japanese from Professor Oak's Laboratory), as Ash, for exemple, uses a regular Poké Ball to try to recall Pikachu in the ep001 (Ash tries to get it in, but it hits the ball back every time), and when several Spearow came in front of Ash (Ash put a regular Poke Ball next to Pikachu), and also in the ep005 against Onix, Ash uses a regular Poké Ball to try to recall it. We can therefore affirm that Pikachu's Poké Ball is a regular Poke Ball, and in all these episodes when Ash try to recall it, the Pikachu's (regular) Poké Ball is the same. The red light ray coming out of a poke ball means that it possesses a pokemon, in this case "Pikachu" (like in the ep005 against Onix).
[[User:Clark|Clark]] 14:44, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
::Also in one of the pokemon advanced episodes, ash leaves all his pokeballs under a tree, he had 4 pokemon with him and all 4 pokeballs were shown to be regular pokeballs.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 23:39, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
:::I think we have better write the subject to "may", because it was not officially stated.
Who knows? The animators might have forgetten about it...? [[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 08:23, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm not agree about what you said, this is an evidence ! The animators are not stupid to forget about it in several episodes and in several scenes when Ash tries to recall pikachu into its Poke ball.
Pikachu's current Poke Ball must be one of the six Poké Balls that Professor Oak gave to Ash in ep001 (Ash choosed one of the six Poké Balls to be Pikachu's Poké Ball). The same thing can be said about Gary's Blastoise. We follow the logic !
[[User:Clark|Clark]] 13:08, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Can you tell me which episode of advanced generation it is ? [[User:Scatland|Scatland]] 19:23, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

== In the manga, Ash's Pikachu is featured. ==

But is that it, is that all we really know about Ash's Pikachu in the Pokémon manga? I realise that this article has been featured before and was voted against being featured due to lack of information in the manga section. In my opinion the summaries used are very brief and just acknowledge that Pika has been featured in the manga, rather than give details on character development and such. For example, the anime section uses tons of specific information about Pikachu while the manga section has virtually no information about Pikachu. I guess to get to the point, is there a manga-savvy out there who could add more information to the "In the manga" section. I'd do it myself if I had any Pokémon manga but I don't so I decided to simply request help for this article. Also, maybe a template could be added to the section such as [[Template:Sectionstub|this.]] --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 00:27, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== Thunder Wave ==

Doesn't Pikachu know Thunder Wave? Didn't it use it to attract the Magnemite in that episode "Get Along 'lil Pokémon" (or something like that title)--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 07:52, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Improvised move - 10 Volts? ==
In [[BW017]], Satoshi orders Pikachu to use Thunderbolt (10,000 Volts in Japan), but then amends it to 10 Volts. This appears as a tiny spark-like poke towards Zuruggu. Is this notable enough to be in the improvised moves section? --[[User:Jda95|jda95]] 09:11, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:I don't think weakened attacks count. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 09:45, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

== Volt Tackle? ==

Y is there a † next to Vol Tackle? The Last four attacks it used were Iron Tail, Quick Attack, Thunderbolt, and Electro Ball.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 22:37, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
:Because the rule is "If it used the attack within the last 10 episodes, it is considered recent". --[[User:Jediknightdtv|ジェダイの騎士]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|デジタルテレビ]] 23:07, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
::Did Pikachu forget Volt Tackle (like in the games how a Pokemon can only know four moves and needs to drop one)?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 23:59, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
:::No evidence of it. Pokémon have been shown to use more than four moves in one episode. Games =/= Anime. They probably just want to pay attention to Electro Ball for a while. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:03, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
::::Oh, alright.--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 00:04, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
:::::Kenji, they already stated that it's 4 moves back in the Sinnoh League when Infernape learned Flare Blitz. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 00:38, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
::::::[[Drake's Dragonite|This is what I am referring to]]. Has not always been like that. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:54, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
:::::::I thought the Infernape thing was a mistranslation or something? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 01:06, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

== Minor edit ==

''A Japanese event distributed an in-game representation of Ash's Pikachu via Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection and at participating Japanese McDonald's locations which was held from July 15th through August 10, 2010. This Pikachu will be distributed at participating American Toys 'R' Us locations from January 30 to February 13, 2011, and Canadian Toys 'R' Us locations from February 9 to February 20, 2011.

''Pikachu was one of Ash's three Pokémon in Pokémon Puzzle League. The Pikachu in the Super Smash Bros. series may be based on Ash's Pikachu.

''Unlike Ash's Pikachu, this Pikachu does not reject the Thunderstone, and can be evolved at any time.''''''

--

'''In the games''' section -- Last line should be tacked onto the first paragraph. I can't edit this page, but someone should fix this. Thanks. --[[User:Gymnotide|Gymnotide]] 04:37, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

== Electro ball ==

Pikachu uses electro, wich it can't without a tm. So does this mean ash has a tm or something [[User:Bobosmith01|~Bobo]] 13:22, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
:Pikachu can learn it by level up. :--[[User:SuperAipom7|SuperAipom7]] ''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|Questions?]])'' 13:25, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
::Games are different than the anime, as simple as that. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']]♪♫ 13:26, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
:::Very true. :--[[User:SuperAipom7|SuperAipom7]] ''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|Questions?]])'' 13:34, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

== Swift-Quick Attack ==

This improvised move is the only one which hasn't got the title of the episode where it was (first) used. Could someone please add it, because I don't know what episode it is? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] 11:44, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

==New Combo==

Can Pikachu using Thunder Bolt to power up Electro Ball be conciderd an improvised move or a combo??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 21:38, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
:I don't think so, maybe that whole "Power up" thing can be part of using Electro Ball. Give me a second, which episode did you saw that on? --[[User:SimonOrJ|SimonOrJ]] 23:22, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
::They're referring to [[BW038]]. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 23:29, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

== In rotation? ==

We know Ash will never take Pikachu out of his current team, so is ''In rotation'' correct? [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 16:42, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
:There is always a possibility. Best Wishes is trying new things obviously. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 16:48, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
::And he has rotated Pikachu away during Silver Conference.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 16:57, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

== Pika-pi ==

Will someone please tell me who or why we deleted pika-pi from the Pikachu's vocabulary section?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 15:37, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

:Paragraph taken from "Pikachu's language" section:

:''Some of Pikachu's speech is consistent enough that it seems that some phrases actually mean something. (In Stealing The Conversation, Team Rocket refers to this language as "PikaSpeak," however, this most likely isn't official.) For instance, '''Pikachu always uses "Pikapi" when referring to Ash (notice that it sounds somewhat similar to "Satoshi")'''. Other speech includes:'' --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 16:10, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Oh... Sorry to have bothered you then... I can't understand why I missed that though...--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 16:32, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

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==Archives==

*[[Talk:Ash's Pikachu/Archive 1|Archive 1]]

==Ability==
Pikachu's ability isn't unknown! Remember in the episode when Ash's Pikachu's static (um... not exactly paralyze) Roark's Rampardos! --[[User:Metagross72|Metagross72]] 05:18, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:...why are we even ''thinking'' about abilities in the anime? --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 05:30, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:: I agree, I think Pokemon could potentially have both abilities available to their species or even none at all. It doesn't follow the games that closely, so there's no way we can confirm that that is the case. [[User:Gastlys mama|Gastlys mama]] 22:09, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
::: {{p|Pikachu}} only has one ability. --[[User:Metagross72|Metagross72]] 02:44, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
::::In the anime. It can also Combine with Swellow to turn into a flying bird of electricity.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:::::I know this is a late reply but thought it should be stated. It is highly possible that Pikachu also has Volt Absorb or what ever its called. In the battle against Roxanne's Nosepass it absorbed the Zap Cannon and regained strength which in the anime is the same as health. I agree with those above stating that abilities are different in the anime world. After all things can be done differently in the anime then in the games.--[[User:Lycos Ex Mortis|Lycos Ex Mortis]] 16:16, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

== Counterparts ==

We could have a section for counterparts to Ash's Pikachu, for example, Sparky, Silver's Chikorita, Aoi's Shinx. I'm pretty sure there are more, and I think this might be worth including on this page. Just a thought! [[User:Gastlys mama|Gastlys mama]] 22:09, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
:Well, not in Pikachu's article. There are '''WAY''' too many in my opinion. That's basically almost every Pokémon that a trainer started w/ in the anime. Good thought, though. --'''[[User:Cat2killer|Catu]] [[User talk:Cat2killer|the Cat]]''' 21:12, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

== Not big things ==

Hi guys! I have 2 thigs to say!
1. I don't understand the last trivia fact about Pikachu being ash's only pokemon... etc, could somebody explain this to me? maybe it's a error and should be erased.
2. We all know that [[Ash's Pikachu]] has never been on its poke ball not even once, well only in ''that'' movie, but my point is that would Ash's still have that poke ball? You know, when he goes to a pokemon center we don't see that unique thunder poke ball of pikachu (because he is always outside of it), so I don't know, why carrying it around if he doesn't use it? if you think this last thing is stupid well then don't pay attention to it. =)[[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 18:29, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh man! i just finished checking the page and saw the that poke ball and there it says that ''ash carries it around all the time'' just like it had posted this haha mmm so nevermind![[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 18:29, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

== Doesn't he look cute? ==

Um,excuse me,but her exact line was "You look so cute",in the english version. Is that line from another languages version? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 18:34, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

*sigh* I know exactly what you mean, Rose. In my opinion, we shouldn't be caring anymore.

I'm afraid to say that this gender debate is just... pathetic. It's kind of sad the way this debate has gone on as long as this, as if its an important election. I really need an explanation as to why the large amount of male evidence isn't enough to confirm the gender of a CARTOON mouse. Why do we need someone to tell us? Aipom puts on a dress, and its a female. Pikachu puts on a kimono... OH NO! That doesn't mean its male! Pikachu puts on a maid outfit and looks embarrassed. NOPE! Not yet." Jeez.

The female evidence is absolutely terrible. Buneary not knowing Pikachu's gender? Pokémon can regonise the gender of other Pokémon, as can animals. For example, Pokémon know that they have to be with a mate of the opposite gender to breed, otherwise they will refuse. Therefore if Buneary is female and it wants to mate, then Pikachu being female would be disturbing. And the idea of Misty featuring Pikachu in dresses... it's a joke in Misty's girlish mind. Does this suddenly mean it's female? I bet even if we saw a female Pikachu in the anime with a heart-shaped tail, this website would still stubbornly say "Pikachu's from Kanto. Gender differences don't apply". And does Pikachu have to be a girl to rival with Bayleef? Is that a scientific fact? No.

I really, really wish they would just confirm the gender as male. Because it is. I know I shouldn't be posting about this because its considered an "offence" to vote, but it would be really good if a regular would just say "Ok, everyone. Ash's Pikachu is male. Thank you". Almost everyone else considers this. Yeah. [[User:Dusknoir477]] 11:37, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

: >> I think Pikachu is female..But,anyway,can I delete that line from the article,it's incorrect,see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFZkdgsgzP8&feature=related. I tried deleting it before,but it looks like it's back up [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 02:28, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I watched it, you're absolutely right, May doesn't refer to it as a male. But that doesn't mean it isn't... I don't think I'll ever be convinced that Pikachu is a girl, because I've always known it to be male. I'm sure lots of people considered that, and therefore, that's one of the big reasons why I think its male; because so many fans picked up vibes that it Pika was a boy, it must be so. Also, I've got lots of Pokémon books from my childhood; all of them say that Pikachu is a boy in them. One was a novel of the first film that I bought for my younger brother, which says this so explicitly its as if the book is trying to side with me. Creepy.

I still can't think of any good reason why it would be female. I can counter all of the female evidence on Pikachu's article.

1. Although its true that Pikachu is from Kanto where all Pikachu of both genders have "male" tails, now that gender differences have been introduced, we can forgot about that now. The world of Pokémon is always changing and contnuity is always corrupted, and regarding certain things like this is the only way to fix it. And no, its tail would not have changed into a heart if it was female. Jeez, if only gender differences were made ages ago, we wouldn't have this problem!

2. Misty picturing Pikachu in dresses. Well, firstly, Misty is a girl. Secondly, Misty likes Pikachu, and would want to picture Pikachu as a girl. Thirdly, Misty's visions were her point of view and not part of the continuity. Basically, almost nothing can be drawn from this evidence. In that Miltank episode, Pikachu felt uncomfortable dressed as a maid, so therefore, from Pikachu's point of view, it doesn't like dresses, meaning that it most likely isn't a girl.

3. Buneary not knowing Pikachu's gender is the dumbest piece of evidence that I have ever, ever heard. Come on, really. I would like to take a little moment to explain real game "love" physics. :P Say that there is a large group of male Mamoswine and a larg group of female Mamoswine in a blizzard. The members in both groups would like to start families with each other, but they can't because in each group, each member is the same gender. So they don't mate. Then, both groups see each other and form a larger group of both genders. Now, they can mate and can start breeding, because there are both males and females, meaning plenty of Swinub eggs will be laid.

So, one must come to the basic conclusion that, if a female Buneary is perfectly capable to fall and love and breed with a male Buneary in the games, but not with another female, then Dawn's Buneary successfully feeling obliged to mate with Pikachu means that Pikachu is the opposite gender of her: Male. Either that, or Buneary is male, which is definitely not true, as Buneary has worn dresses like a girl and even went into a girls fashion competition. Therefore, Buneary is female and Pikachu is male. It's obvious! Remember... The Pokémon series is based on the games! (although, then again, some things that happened in the anime aren't possible in the games, like the electric-harming-ground thing, but we are talking about common sense here; a female would tell the difference between a male and female).

4. Pikachu has gained quite a few rivals throughout the series, the most notable being Chikorita/Bayleef, who was confirmed to be female. I do not know why it would be considered female just because of this. Both genders can rival with one another. Whilst there is no evidence to say that I am wrong, there isn't evidence to say that I am right about this point, so this would be discarded in my book.

5. One that got deleted a while ago was the point that Pikachu showed interest in feminine items such as perfume. I can counter it. I think the reason why it was fascinated was because it was simply curious of the human world. Remember, Pikachu, before being captured by Prof Oak, was a wild animal. It would be fascinated by human things and would wander about eyeing the merchandise on sale, whether it was aimed at men or women. You know... it may look at a bottle of perfume, then look at a digital watch, then a necklace, then a chemisty set. This really doesn't explain anything about genders then, does it?

There you go. In my opinion, you can't very much counter the male evidence, especially ones like Pikachu being referred to as Ash's brother (a very good point).

I guess we'll just have to face the facts. Pikachu's gender will probably never be fully confirmed. Everyone's just too stubborn to do so. It's like in the Simpsons where Springfield's state won't be revealed. It's getting very, very late now, and as episodes go on, Pikachu remain a seemingly-genderless creature. But it isn't. It's male. - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Dusknoir477}} ([[User talk:Dusknoir477|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dusknoir477|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

Just a friendly reminder of the giant red letters at the top of this page. Next person who posts about this gets a short block. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 21:50, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

== Should The . . . ==

. . . Gender Debate really be on this page? It just seems like a bunch of unencyclopedic speculation. ''[[User:ShinjiLover|シンジ]]'''''[[Paul|Shinji]]'''[[User talk:ShinjiLover|Lover]],'''[[Special:Contributions/ShinjiLover|Edits]]''' 02:24, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

== Possibly incorrect information on Gender Debate? ==
I realize this is pretty trivial, but on the section of Pikachu's Gender Debate, one of pieces of information supporting Pikachu's gender being male states something around the lines of Pikachu from Kanto have not been shown to have indentations on their tails, but in Pikachu's Goodbye (EP039) multiple wild Pikachu that appear in that episode have indentations on their tails. So should I edited that piece of information to be correct, or is it too trivial to matter?{{unsigned|Spoon-Fork}}
:No they didn't--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]•[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 06:18, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
::Those dents were merley wounds from possibly being attacked by other Pokémon. Saying that they are gender differences is pure speculation. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:25, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Umm, saying that they are wounds is also pure speculation, as well, so technically, you shouldn't even say that on here. Besides, are they actually wounds? I'm pretty sure wounds would not be on the exact same spot on all those Pikachu's tails. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 12:51, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Guys, would you mind going and watching [[EP005|Showdown at Pewter City]]? Brock excplicitly calls him a he. [[User:Torngentleman2|MAMOSWINEPwnz! (Torngentleman2)]] 09:52, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

== Double edge???? ==

I think Pikachu can't do double edge.
May i have some proofs please.
--♫♪[[User talk:Adyniz|'''Adyniz''']]♪♫ 15:39, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

:Well, there are points pointing both ways. Supporting the fact that Ash's Pikachu might know {{m|Double-Edge}} is because it can learn the move through [[TM10]] in [[Generation I]] (and later through a move tutor in [[Generation III]]). Supporting the fact that it might not know Double-Edge is because it was the stadium announcer who mentioned it in [[EP079|''Friend and Foe Alike'']], increasing the chance that it could have been a dub mistranslation where it was originally a different move in the Japanese version.

:My [[$1|2¢]]: While it's possible that Pikachu using Double-Edge might have been a mistranslation, if it isn't a mistranslation, odds are it's not an error of any sort. The episode in question is a Generation I-era episode, and Pikachu most definitely had a legal avenue for learning Double-Edge in that generation. Conclusion: Could somebody double-check the Japanese version of the episode? --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:03, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Today i watched [[EP079|Friend and Foe Alike]] & it was true that pikachu used Double-Edge in this episode.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 15:05, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Male in Japan As Well! ==

Have any of you dared to watch Electric Soldier Porygon? ([[EP038]]) If so, then if you watched the one with subtitles on YouTube, you would have heard Nurse Joy call him a he. And that was in Japan! As for other countries, Pikachu is called a he in Showdown at Pewter City (EP005). I am changing it from Male (confirmed in dub only) to Male. [[User:Torngentleman2|MAMOSWINEPwnz! (Torngentleman2)]] 16:52, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

:Your operative word is "subtitles". Those subtitles are not official. Ergo, they cannot be used as evidence. Your edits concerning the matter will be undone.

:In fact, the chances of us ever getting official subtitles for that episode vanished thanks to over 700 seizures. Even if the rest of the series were to get an uncut subtitled release one of these days, [[EP038]] would not be included due to being locked down by the Japanese government. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 17:04, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
That's not evidence at all, but I am almost certain Pikachu has been referred to as male in the Japanese version. I recall Meowth using the word "otoko" in reference to him in one of the Lt. Surge episodes, for example. I don't exactly watch the anime (hardly ever), so I can't really give any other example. [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 06:48, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

=== On a different tangent: ===
[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=1044357&postcount=62]
Since Piplup is confirmed male as of [[DP137]], this either means Piplup goes both ways or we just confirmed Pikachu's gender. - '''[[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]]'''- 03:23, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

== Belong? ==

Does the gender debate really belong on this article? It's mostly speculation based on stuff in the anime. I believe it should be on the forums or in a separate namespace. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 23:53, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
:It's about Ash's Pikachu and is a valid part of the fandom. No touchy.... except to make it better because its a serious piece of crap right now. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 00:03, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
::Fandom. Not encyclopedic knowledge. It seems like a topic for the forums, not a mainspace article. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 00:13, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I deleted the hints and rewrote the paragraph. Are we happy now? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 00:21, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
::::You could put them on a forum discussing the topic. It's kinda annoying to come to this talk page and see fifty pages worth of debate over the topic when that kind of stuff belongs on the forum. {{unsigned|Galladeon}}
:::::I'm not putting them anywhere. If people want to discuss they can do it themselves. And of course, we all know that this kind of fancruft belongs in the forums. There's a big message at the top of the page essentially telling you to {{tt|STFU|but in nicer words, because we are nice people}}. Now please, stop talking. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 00:27, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Now this is real proof...unlike how someone said that Pikachu was a girl because it liked the perfume. Don't girls put on perfume that the guys like?--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 03:50, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Let me ask something real quick, and hopefully this'll help end the gender debate once and for all. (Either that, or make it worse...) According to [[Dawn's Buneary]], that particular Buneary is confirmed female. By the game mechanics and what we've seen on the Anime, Pokémon don't have homosexual tendencies. Therefore, isn't Buneary's HUGE crush on Ash's Pikachu evidence enough that Pikachu is a male? Or is Buneary's gender not really confirmed? [[User:Gear-Richie|Gear-Richie]] 23:22, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
:That's not new, it's been brought up hundreds of times before. At least you're trying to help though. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 00:02, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

:Well then, for my personal enrichment, perhaps, what refutation was used to discard this line of reasoning? [[User:Gear-Richie|Gear-Richie]] 17:21, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== "However, Pikachu is the only Electric-type Pokémon owned by a main character which can evolve." ==

Is this even necessary. I understand that for a long time Pikachu has been the only electric type pokemon owned by a main character. Then pachirusu came and someone added this. What the heck!!! Is this just trying to make pikachu seem more unique. I honestly don't think this is necesarry trivia. --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 16:14, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
:Well, it is technically true, even though Pikachu's never going to. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:34, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
::I know it's true and I know it's not going to evolve but I don't think it is necessary trivia. Sould we take it out? --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 21:42, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I have to agree with Landfish7. I was just reading the trivia and I came across it and it was like, {{tt|"what the heck?"|is is seriously necessary?}}.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 03:47, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

== "By accident"? ==

Couldn't Pikachu have been born with volt tackle,but not know it,until it "learned" it in that episode? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 02:33, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:That's unlikely. Considering the way Aipom learned Double Hit. It was "improvised" where it's attack would look like it was split into two (like Double Team) and that turned out to be Double Hit. Pikachu's Quick attack + Electricty = Volt Tackle. It's most likey [[anime physics]]. --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 22:03, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
::Even more likely is the fact that anime=/=games. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 22:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

== Pikachu's Past ==

*What was Pikachu's original life like before Oak's Lab in Pallet Town? --[[User:Kid Sonic|Kid Sonic]] 14:36, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

:That might take a special in its own right to explore. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:02, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok, you want to know Pikachu's past? Pikachu was wild before professor oak caught it and brought it to his lab (Pokemon Yellow). This also explains why Pikachu had a poke ball in the first place. Has anybody watched Pikachu's Goodbye? That explains that the pikachu can live in trees, and if i remember correctly, pikachu found the tree that it used to live in in that episode. [[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 18:33, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 18:34, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

== Pikachu's Language ==

In [[DP134]] while Ash, Brock and Konoha are searching for Dawn, Pikachu says, "PikaPika". Would this be considered PikachuLanguage for Dawn? Also Piplup (in Japanese) says, "Pochacha", which may be that Piplup's speech has some consistency as well.~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Ποκεμανιακα0β]] 21:22, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:"PikaPika" is a standard in Pikachu's language. It uses it for a lot of things. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:24, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

:However... I believe I heard Pikachu give out a different name for Dawn in one of the most recent episode. It sounded much different from his normal speech. Ugh... I can't remember... It was like "Pikaka" or "Pikachu-ka" or something... Can someone who has DP143 and DP144 rewatch them? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:58, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

::Okay, i will try to rewatch the episode. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:07, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

In [[DP134]] it did sound like Pikachu said "Pikaka" for Dawn--[[User:Ashanddawn4evr|Ashanddawn4evr]] 22:36, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

== Pikachu-Poké Ball! ==

I made a sprite for the pikachu Poké Ball. It is really rubbish, but I thought maybe we could use it instead of the normal Poké Ball, at least until someone uploads a better one. Here it is[[File:POKBAL~2.png|The PokéBall|right|thumb|2500px]] [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 13:34, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
:Given that it only appeared once, so no.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 13:36, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
::I think it shouldn't be used. He used regular Poké Balls after to recall it according the caption in the article. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 16:55, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
:::He also uses regular Poké Balls for his Tauros, and we still have a Safari Ball sprite on that page. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 17:30, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
::::True. In the case that this is used, we need a better sprite. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 17:33, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

== Ketchup? ==

I'm new so excuse me if I am wrong but shouldn't it be mentioned somewhere about his love of ketchup?[[User:Mudkipzrule|Mudkipz Rule]] 19:19, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
:Pikachu loves ketchup. What you are looking for is in the article. [[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 18:39, 19 July 2010

== Phobia of being photographed. ==

It says in the episode Todd Snap appears that Pikachu is afraid of having its picture taken.[[User:Mudkipzrule|Mudkipz Rule]] 21:42, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

== Pikachu batting Tsutarja in BW007 ==

Just curious but is there a specific reason as to why this was deleted?? It is a confirmed event so I don't see a problem with putting it in there.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 20:54, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok seriously who keeps on deleting this come on its a confirmed event jeez I don't see what the big deal???[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 02:09, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

:Adding it in other pages are important. But Pikachu is this focus. Not every minor details will be added to the ''Ash's Pikachu'' page. If not, there will be a whole list of wild Pokémon that Pikachu had battled with. --[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 02:12, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok but this isn't just any wild pokemon because Ash might capture this Tsutarja. Thats why I put it on the page and thats why I think it belongs on the page.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 02:18, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

:Pikachu battling with [[Ash's Pidgeot|Pidgeotto]] or [[Ash's Swellow|Taillow]]? They are not added too. Just leave it for now, unless it's super-notable.--[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 02:22, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

So why is mamepato battling it or mijumaru battling it noteworthy I put it on miju's page too. What's the difference??? And why does it bother anyone that what I don't understand.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 03:07, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
: Because they're new while Pikachu predates them by over 660 something episodes (and Mamepato REALLY needs more info) [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 03:12, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

:::{{tt|Although I have not much say in this|I'm not an Admin :p}}, Pikachu had been with Ash for more than 4 series while Mamepato and Mijumaru are ''new'' Pokémon owned by Ash. However, I think that in future times, all those not important will be deleted; those notable will remain. --[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 03:14, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Ya so for now why can't it be left if it can be deleted later then just leave it know as a reference so that when someone comes on to pikachu's page they can see that it will be doing something in this episode.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 03:26, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

==Should Ash's Pikachu know Leer?==

*In his move list, it says that Pikachu knows Leer, even though it says in the episode it was used that it didn't actually know the move, and just made a funny face. [[User:Teddy6ursa|Teddy6ursa]] 18:09, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

== Pichu ==
I think we should put pichu as Pkachu's pre-evolution in the info box. The reason for this being that Pichu is a guaranteed product of any Pikachu and Riachu breeding and that it is not like other baby Pokémon that need an item to be produced. This meens that every Pikachu including Ash's Pikachu was at one point a Pichu.--'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]][[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''' 21:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
:The last time this was brought up: ''Actually, yes they all start out life as Pichu. It's only the Pokémon with pre-evolved forms GenIII and beyond that can be born not as there baby forms i.e. Marill. It doesn't really matter. Ash didn't have Pikachu when it was Pichu so therefore it can't be counted. [[User:Kenji-girl|☆ケンジガール]] 23:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)''. And I agree. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:32, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

== Redirect Request ==

Could someone please create a redirect for "Pikachu (anime)", seems odd that there isnt one already. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 20:57, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

== Pikachu's Poké Ball ==

About Pikachu's Poké Ball. The Poké Ball with a lighting bolt mark from Professor Oak's Laboratory has never been owned by Ash (Gary's Blastoise is held in a regular Poké Ball and not in the Poké Ball labeled in Japanese from Professor Oak's Laboratory), as Ash, for exemple, uses a regular Poké Ball to try to recall Pikachu in the ep001 (Ash tries to get it in, but it hits the ball back every time), and when several Spearow came in front of Ash (Ash put a regular Poke Ball next to Pikachu), and also in the ep005 against Onix, Ash uses a regular Poké Ball to try to recall it. We can therefore affirm that Pikachu's Poké Ball is a regular Poke Ball, and in all these episodes when Ash try to recall it, the Pikachu's (regular) Poké Ball is the same. The red light ray coming out of a poke ball means that it possesses a pokemon, in this case "Pikachu" (like in the ep005 against Onix).
[[User:Clark|Clark]] 14:44, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
::Also in one of the pokemon advanced episodes, ash leaves all his pokeballs under a tree, he had 4 pokemon with him and all 4 pokeballs were shown to be regular pokeballs.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 23:39, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
:::I think we have better write the subject to "may", because it was not officially stated.
Who knows? The animators might have forgetten about it...? [[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 08:23, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm not agree about what you said, this is an evidence ! The animators are not stupid to forget about it in several episodes and in several scenes when Ash tries to recall pikachu into its Poke ball.
Pikachu's current Poke Ball must be one of the six Poké Balls that Professor Oak gave to Ash in ep001 (Ash choosed one of the six Poké Balls to be Pikachu's Poké Ball). The same thing can be said about Gary's Blastoise. We follow the logic !
[[User:Clark|Clark]] 13:08, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Can you tell me which episode of advanced generation it is ? [[User:Scatland|Scatland]] 19:23, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

== In the manga, Ash's Pikachu is featured. ==

But is that it, is that all we really know about Ash's Pikachu in the Pokémon manga? I realise that this article has been featured before and was voted against being featured due to lack of information in the manga section. In my opinion the summaries used are very brief and just acknowledge that Pika has been featured in the manga, rather than give details on character development and such. For example, the anime section uses tons of specific information about Pikachu while the manga section has virtually no information about Pikachu. I guess to get to the point, is there a manga-savvy out there who could add more information to the "In the manga" section. I'd do it myself if I had any Pokémon manga but I don't so I decided to simply request help for this article. Also, maybe a template could be added to the section such as [[Template:Sectionstub|this.]] --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 00:27, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== Thunder Wave ==

Doesn't Pikachu know Thunder Wave? Didn't it use it to attract the Magnemite in that episode "Get Along 'lil Pokémon" (or something like that title)--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 07:52, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Improvised move - 10 Volts? ==
In [[BW017]], Satoshi orders Pikachu to use Thunderbolt (10,000 Volts in Japan), but then amends it to 10 Volts. This appears as a tiny spark-like poke towards Zuruggu. Is this notable enough to be in the improvised moves section? --[[User:Jda95|jda95]] 09:11, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:I don't think weakened attacks count. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 09:45, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

== Volt Tackle? ==

Y is there a † next to Vol Tackle? The Last four attacks it used were Iron Tail, Quick Attack, Thunderbolt, and Electro Ball.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 22:37, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
:Because the rule is "If it used the attack within the last 10 episodes, it is considered recent". --[[User:Jediknightdtv|ジェダイの騎士]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|デジタルテレビ]] 23:07, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
::Did Pikachu forget Volt Tackle (like in the games how a Pokemon can only know four moves and needs to drop one)?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 23:59, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
:::No evidence of it. Pokémon have been shown to use more than four moves in one episode. Games =/= Anime. They probably just want to pay attention to Electro Ball for a while. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:03, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
::::Oh, alright.--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 00:04, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
:::::Kenji, they already stated that it's 4 moves back in the Sinnoh League when Infernape learned Flare Blitz. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 00:38, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
::::::[[Drake's Dragonite|This is what I am referring to]]. Has not always been like that. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:54, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
:::::::I thought the Infernape thing was a mistranslation or something? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 01:06, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

== Minor edit ==

''A Japanese event distributed an in-game representation of Ash's Pikachu via Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection and at participating Japanese McDonald's locations which was held from July 15th through August 10, 2010. This Pikachu will be distributed at participating American Toys 'R' Us locations from January 30 to February 13, 2011, and Canadian Toys 'R' Us locations from February 9 to February 20, 2011.

''Pikachu was one of Ash's three Pokémon in Pokémon Puzzle League. The Pikachu in the Super Smash Bros. series may be based on Ash's Pikachu.

''Unlike Ash's Pikachu, this Pikachu does not reject the Thunderstone, and can be evolved at any time.''''''

--

'''In the games''' section -- Last line should be tacked onto the first paragraph. I can't edit this page, but someone should fix this. Thanks. --[[User:Gymnotide|Gymnotide]] 04:37, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

== Electro ball ==

Pikachu uses electro, wich it can't without a tm. So does this mean ash has a tm or something [[User:Bobosmith01|~Bobo]] 13:22, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
:Pikachu can learn it by level up. :--[[User:SuperAipom7|SuperAipom7]] ''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|Questions?]])'' 13:25, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
::Games are different than the anime, as simple as that. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']]♪♫ 13:26, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
:::Very true. :--[[User:SuperAipom7|SuperAipom7]] ''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|Questions?]])'' 13:34, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

== Swift-Quick Attack ==

This improvised move is the only one which hasn't got the title of the episode where it was (first) used. Could someone please add it, because I don't know what episode it is? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] 11:44, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

==New Combo==

Can Pikachu using Thunder Bolt to power up Electro Ball be conciderd an improvised move or a combo??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 21:38, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
:I don't think so, maybe that whole "Power up" thing can be part of using Electro Ball. Give me a second, which episode did you saw that on? --[[User:SimonOrJ|SimonOrJ]] 23:22, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
::They're referring to [[BW038]]. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 23:29, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

== In rotation? ==

We know Ash will never take Pikachu out of his current team, so is ''In rotation'' correct? [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 16:42, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
:There is always a possibility. Best Wishes is trying new things obviously. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 16:48, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
::And he has rotated Pikachu away during Silver Conference.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 16:57, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

== Pika-pi ==

Will someone please tell me why we deleted Pikachu's name for Ash?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 15:29, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

== Pika-pi ==

Will someone please tell me who or why we deleted pika-pi from the Pikachu's vocabulary section?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 15:37, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Ash's Pikachu/Archive 2

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==Archives==

*[[Talk:Ash's Pikachu/Archive 1|Archive 1]]

==Ability==
Pikachu's ability isn't unknown! Remember in the episode when Ash's Pikachu's static (um... not exactly paralyze) Roark's Rampardos! --[[User:Metagross72|Metagross72]] 05:18, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:...why are we even ''thinking'' about abilities in the anime? --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 05:30, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:: I agree, I think Pokemon could potentially have both abilities available to their species or even none at all. It doesn't follow the games that closely, so there's no way we can confirm that that is the case. [[User:Gastlys mama|Gastlys mama]] 22:09, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
::: {{p|Pikachu}} only has one ability. --[[User:Metagross72|Metagross72]] 02:44, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
::::In the anime. It can also Combine with Swellow to turn into a flying bird of electricity.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:::::I know this is a late reply but thought it should be stated. It is highly possible that Pikachu also has Volt Absorb or what ever its called. In the battle against Roxanne's Nosepass it absorbed the Zap Cannon and regained strength which in the anime is the same as health. I agree with those above stating that abilities are different in the anime world. After all things can be done differently in the anime then in the games.--[[User:Lycos Ex Mortis|Lycos Ex Mortis]] 16:16, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

== Counterparts ==

We could have a section for counterparts to Ash's Pikachu, for example, Sparky, Silver's Chikorita, Aoi's Shinx. I'm pretty sure there are more, and I think this might be worth including on this page. Just a thought! [[User:Gastlys mama|Gastlys mama]] 22:09, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
:Well, not in Pikachu's article. There are '''WAY''' too many in my opinion. That's basically almost every Pokémon that a trainer started w/ in the anime. Good thought, though. --'''[[User:Cat2killer|Catu]] [[User talk:Cat2killer|the Cat]]''' 21:12, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

== Not big things ==

Hi guys! I have 2 thigs to say!
1. I don't understand the last trivia fact about Pikachu being ash's only pokemon... etc, could somebody explain this to me? maybe it's a error and should be erased.
2. We all know that [[Ash's Pikachu]] has never been on its poke ball not even once, well only in ''that'' movie, but my point is that would Ash's still have that poke ball? You know, when he goes to a pokemon center we don't see that unique thunder poke ball of pikachu (because he is always outside of it), so I don't know, why carrying it around if he doesn't use it? if you think this last thing is stupid well then don't pay attention to it. =)[[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 18:29, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh man! i just finished checking the page and saw the that poke ball and there it says that ''ash carries it around all the time'' just like it had posted this haha mmm so nevermind![[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 18:29, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

== Doesn't he look cute? ==

Um,excuse me,but her exact line was "You look so cute",in the english version. Is that line from another languages version? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 18:34, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

*sigh* I know exactly what you mean, Rose. In my opinion, we shouldn't be caring anymore.

I'm afraid to say that this gender debate is just... pathetic. It's kind of sad the way this debate has gone on as long as this, as if its an important election. I really need an explanation as to why the large amount of male evidence isn't enough to confirm the gender of a CARTOON mouse. Why do we need someone to tell us? Aipom puts on a dress, and its a female. Pikachu puts on a kimono... OH NO! That doesn't mean its male! Pikachu puts on a maid outfit and looks embarrassed. NOPE! Not yet." Jeez.

The female evidence is absolutely terrible. Buneary not knowing Pikachu's gender? Pokémon can regonise the gender of other Pokémon, as can animals. For example, Pokémon know that they have to be with a mate of the opposite gender to breed, otherwise they will refuse. Therefore if Buneary is female and it wants to mate, then Pikachu being female would be disturbing. And the idea of Misty featuring Pikachu in dresses... it's a joke in Misty's girlish mind. Does this suddenly mean it's female? I bet even if we saw a female Pikachu in the anime with a heart-shaped tail, this website would still stubbornly say "Pikachu's from Kanto. Gender differences don't apply". And does Pikachu have to be a girl to rival with Bayleef? Is that a scientific fact? No.

I really, really wish they would just confirm the gender as male. Because it is. I know I shouldn't be posting about this because its considered an "offence" to vote, but it would be really good if a regular would just say "Ok, everyone. Ash's Pikachu is male. Thank you". Almost everyone else considers this. Yeah. [[User:Dusknoir477]] 11:37, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

: >> I think Pikachu is female..But,anyway,can I delete that line from the article,it's incorrect,see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFZkdgsgzP8&feature=related. I tried deleting it before,but it looks like it's back up [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 02:28, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I watched it, you're absolutely right, May doesn't refer to it as a male. But that doesn't mean it isn't... I don't think I'll ever be convinced that Pikachu is a girl, because I've always known it to be male. I'm sure lots of people considered that, and therefore, that's one of the big reasons why I think its male; because so many fans picked up vibes that it Pika was a boy, it must be so. Also, I've got lots of Pokémon books from my childhood; all of them say that Pikachu is a boy in them. One was a novel of the first film that I bought for my younger brother, which says this so explicitly its as if the book is trying to side with me. Creepy.

I still can't think of any good reason why it would be female. I can counter all of the female evidence on Pikachu's article.

1. Although its true that Pikachu is from Kanto where all Pikachu of both genders have "male" tails, now that gender differences have been introduced, we can forgot about that now. The world of Pokémon is always changing and contnuity is always corrupted, and regarding certain things like this is the only way to fix it. And no, its tail would not have changed into a heart if it was female. Jeez, if only gender differences were made ages ago, we wouldn't have this problem!

2. Misty picturing Pikachu in dresses. Well, firstly, Misty is a girl. Secondly, Misty likes Pikachu, and would want to picture Pikachu as a girl. Thirdly, Misty's visions were her point of view and not part of the continuity. Basically, almost nothing can be drawn from this evidence. In that Miltank episode, Pikachu felt uncomfortable dressed as a maid, so therefore, from Pikachu's point of view, it doesn't like dresses, meaning that it most likely isn't a girl.

3. Buneary not knowing Pikachu's gender is the dumbest piece of evidence that I have ever, ever heard. Come on, really. I would like to take a little moment to explain real game "love" physics. :P Say that there is a large group of male Mamoswine and a larg group of female Mamoswine in a blizzard. The members in both groups would like to start families with each other, but they can't because in each group, each member is the same gender. So they don't mate. Then, both groups see each other and form a larger group of both genders. Now, they can mate and can start breeding, because there are both males and females, meaning plenty of Swinub eggs will be laid.

So, one must come to the basic conclusion that, if a female Buneary is perfectly capable to fall and love and breed with a male Buneary in the games, but not with another female, then Dawn's Buneary successfully feeling obliged to mate with Pikachu means that Pikachu is the opposite gender of her: Male. Either that, or Buneary is male, which is definitely not true, as Buneary has worn dresses like a girl and even went into a girls fashion competition. Therefore, Buneary is female and Pikachu is male. It's obvious! Remember... The Pokémon series is based on the games! (although, then again, some things that happened in the anime aren't possible in the games, like the electric-harming-ground thing, but we are talking about common sense here; a female would tell the difference between a male and female).

4. Pikachu has gained quite a few rivals throughout the series, the most notable being Chikorita/Bayleef, who was confirmed to be female. I do not know why it would be considered female just because of this. Both genders can rival with one another. Whilst there is no evidence to say that I am wrong, there isn't evidence to say that I am right about this point, so this would be discarded in my book.

5. One that got deleted a while ago was the point that Pikachu showed interest in feminine items such as perfume. I can counter it. I think the reason why it was fascinated was because it was simply curious of the human world. Remember, Pikachu, before being captured by Prof Oak, was a wild animal. It would be fascinated by human things and would wander about eyeing the merchandise on sale, whether it was aimed at men or women. You know... it may look at a bottle of perfume, then look at a digital watch, then a necklace, then a chemisty set. This really doesn't explain anything about genders then, does it?

There you go. In my opinion, you can't very much counter the male evidence, especially ones like Pikachu being referred to as Ash's brother (a very good point).

I guess we'll just have to face the facts. Pikachu's gender will probably never be fully confirmed. Everyone's just too stubborn to do so. It's like in the Simpsons where Springfield's state won't be revealed. It's getting very, very late now, and as episodes go on, Pikachu remain a seemingly-genderless creature. But it isn't. It's male. - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Dusknoir477}} ([[User talk:Dusknoir477|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dusknoir477|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

Just a friendly reminder of the giant red letters at the top of this page. Next person who posts about this gets a short block. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 21:50, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

== Should The . . . ==

. . . Gender Debate really be on this page? It just seems like a bunch of unencyclopedic speculation. ''[[User:ShinjiLover|シンジ]]'''''[[Paul|Shinji]]'''[[User talk:ShinjiLover|Lover]],'''[[Special:Contributions/ShinjiLover|Edits]]''' 02:24, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

== Possibly incorrect information on Gender Debate? ==
I realize this is pretty trivial, but on the section of Pikachu's Gender Debate, one of pieces of information supporting Pikachu's gender being male states something around the lines of Pikachu from Kanto have not been shown to have indentations on their tails, but in Pikachu's Goodbye (EP039) multiple wild Pikachu that appear in that episode have indentations on their tails. So should I edited that piece of information to be correct, or is it too trivial to matter?{{unsigned|Spoon-Fork}}
:No they didn't--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]•[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 06:18, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
::Those dents were merley wounds from possibly being attacked by other Pokémon. Saying that they are gender differences is pure speculation. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:25, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Umm, saying that they are wounds is also pure speculation, as well, so technically, you shouldn't even say that on here. Besides, are they actually wounds? I'm pretty sure wounds would not be on the exact same spot on all those Pikachu's tails. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 12:51, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Guys, would you mind going and watching [[EP005|Showdown at Pewter City]]? Brock excplicitly calls him a he. [[User:Torngentleman2|MAMOSWINEPwnz! (Torngentleman2)]] 09:52, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

== Double edge???? ==

I think Pikachu can't do double edge.
May i have some proofs please.
--♫♪[[User talk:Adyniz|'''Adyniz''']]♪♫ 15:39, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

:Well, there are points pointing both ways. Supporting the fact that Ash's Pikachu might know {{m|Double-Edge}} is because it can learn the move through [[TM10]] in [[Generation I]] (and later through a move tutor in [[Generation III]]). Supporting the fact that it might not know Double-Edge is because it was the stadium announcer who mentioned it in [[EP079|''Friend and Foe Alike'']], increasing the chance that it could have been a dub mistranslation where it was originally a different move in the Japanese version.

:My [[$1|2¢]]: While it's possible that Pikachu using Double-Edge might have been a mistranslation, if it isn't a mistranslation, odds are it's not an error of any sort. The episode in question is a Generation I-era episode, and Pikachu most definitely had a legal avenue for learning Double-Edge in that generation. Conclusion: Could somebody double-check the Japanese version of the episode? --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:03, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Today i watched [[EP079|Friend and Foe Alike]] & it was true that pikachu used Double-Edge in this episode.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 15:05, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Male in Japan As Well! ==

Have any of you dared to watch Electric Soldier Porygon? ([[EP038]]) If so, then if you watched the one with subtitles on YouTube, you would have heard Nurse Joy call him a he. And that was in Japan! As for other countries, Pikachu is called a he in Showdown at Pewter City (EP005). I am changing it from Male (confirmed in dub only) to Male. [[User:Torngentleman2|MAMOSWINEPwnz! (Torngentleman2)]] 16:52, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

:Your operative word is "subtitles". Those subtitles are not official. Ergo, they cannot be used as evidence. Your edits concerning the matter will be undone.

:In fact, the chances of us ever getting official subtitles for that episode vanished thanks to over 700 seizures. Even if the rest of the series were to get an uncut subtitled release one of these days, [[EP038]] would not be included due to being locked down by the Japanese government. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 17:04, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
That's not evidence at all, but I am almost certain Pikachu has been referred to as male in the Japanese version. I recall Meowth using the word "otoko" in reference to him in one of the Lt. Surge episodes, for example. I don't exactly watch the anime (hardly ever), so I can't really give any other example. [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 06:48, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

=== On a different tangent: ===
[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=1044357&postcount=62]
Since Piplup is confirmed male as of [[DP137]], this either means Piplup goes both ways or we just confirmed Pikachu's gender. - '''[[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]]'''- 03:23, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

== Belong? ==

Does the gender debate really belong on this article? It's mostly speculation based on stuff in the anime. I believe it should be on the forums or in a separate namespace. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 23:53, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
:It's about Ash's Pikachu and is a valid part of the fandom. No touchy.... except to make it better because its a serious piece of crap right now. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 00:03, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
::Fandom. Not encyclopedic knowledge. It seems like a topic for the forums, not a mainspace article. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 00:13, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I deleted the hints and rewrote the paragraph. Are we happy now? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 00:21, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
::::You could put them on a forum discussing the topic. It's kinda annoying to come to this talk page and see fifty pages worth of debate over the topic when that kind of stuff belongs on the forum. {{unsigned|Galladeon}}
:::::I'm not putting them anywhere. If people want to discuss they can do it themselves. And of course, we all know that this kind of fancruft belongs in the forums. There's a big message at the top of the page essentially telling you to {{tt|STFU|but in nicer words, because we are nice people}}. Now please, stop talking. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 00:27, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Now this is real proof...unlike how someone said that Pikachu was a girl because it liked the perfume. Don't girls put on perfume that the guys like?--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 03:50, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Let me ask something real quick, and hopefully this'll help end the gender debate once and for all. (Either that, or make it worse...) According to [[Dawn's Buneary]], that particular Buneary is confirmed female. By the game mechanics and what we've seen on the Anime, Pokémon don't have homosexual tendencies. Therefore, isn't Buneary's HUGE crush on Ash's Pikachu evidence enough that Pikachu is a male? Or is Buneary's gender not really confirmed? [[User:Gear-Richie|Gear-Richie]] 23:22, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
:That's not new, it's been brought up hundreds of times before. At least you're trying to help though. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 00:02, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

:Well then, for my personal enrichment, perhaps, what refutation was used to discard this line of reasoning? [[User:Gear-Richie|Gear-Richie]] 17:21, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== "However, Pikachu is the only Electric-type Pokémon owned by a main character which can evolve." ==

Is this even necessary. I understand that for a long time Pikachu has been the only electric type pokemon owned by a main character. Then pachirusu came and someone added this. What the heck!!! Is this just trying to make pikachu seem more unique. I honestly don't think this is necesarry trivia. --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 16:14, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
:Well, it is technically true, even though Pikachu's never going to. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:34, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
::I know it's true and I know it's not going to evolve but I don't think it is necessary trivia. Sould we take it out? --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 21:42, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I have to agree with Landfish7. I was just reading the trivia and I came across it and it was like, {{tt|"what the heck?"|is is seriously necessary?}}.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 03:47, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

== "By accident"? ==

Couldn't Pikachu have been born with volt tackle,but not know it,until it "learned" it in that episode? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 02:33, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:That's unlikely. Considering the way Aipom learned Double Hit. It was "improvised" where it's attack would look like it was split into two (like Double Team) and that turned out to be Double Hit. Pikachu's Quick attack + Electricty = Volt Tackle. It's most likey [[anime physics]]. --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 22:03, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
::Even more likely is the fact that anime=/=games. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 22:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

== Pikachu's Past ==

*What was Pikachu's original life like before Oak's Lab in Pallet Town? --[[User:Kid Sonic|Kid Sonic]] 14:36, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

:That might take a special in its own right to explore. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:02, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok, you want to know Pikachu's past? Pikachu was wild before professor oak caught it and brought it to his lab (Pokemon Yellow). This also explains why Pikachu had a poke ball in the first place. Has anybody watched Pikachu's Goodbye? That explains that the pikachu can live in trees, and if i remember correctly, pikachu found the tree that it used to live in in that episode. [[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 18:33, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 18:34, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

== Pikachu's Language ==

In [[DP134]] while Ash, Brock and Konoha are searching for Dawn, Pikachu says, "PikaPika". Would this be considered PikachuLanguage for Dawn? Also Piplup (in Japanese) says, "Pochacha", which may be that Piplup's speech has some consistency as well.~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Ποκεμανιακα0β]] 21:22, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:"PikaPika" is a standard in Pikachu's language. It uses it for a lot of things. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:24, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

:However... I believe I heard Pikachu give out a different name for Dawn in one of the most recent episode. It sounded much different from his normal speech. Ugh... I can't remember... It was like "Pikaka" or "Pikachu-ka" or something... Can someone who has DP143 and DP144 rewatch them? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:58, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

::Okay, i will try to rewatch the episode. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:07, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

In [[DP134]] it did sound like Pikachu said "Pikaka" for Dawn--[[User:Ashanddawn4evr|Ashanddawn4evr]] 22:36, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

== Pikachu-Poké Ball! ==

I made a sprite for the pikachu Poké Ball. It is really rubbish, but I thought maybe we could use it instead of the normal Poké Ball, at least until someone uploads a better one. Here it is[[File:POKBAL~2.png|The PokéBall|right|thumb|2500px]] [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 13:34, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
:Given that it only appeared once, so no.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 13:36, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
::I think it shouldn't be used. He used regular Poké Balls after to recall it according the caption in the article. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 16:55, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
:::He also uses regular Poké Balls for his Tauros, and we still have a Safari Ball sprite on that page. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 17:30, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
::::True. In the case that this is used, we need a better sprite. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 17:33, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

== Ketchup? ==

I'm new so excuse me if I am wrong but shouldn't it be mentioned somewhere about his love of ketchup?[[User:Mudkipzrule|Mudkipz Rule]] 19:19, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
:Pikachu loves ketchup. What you are looking for is in the article. [[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 18:39, 19 July 2010

== Phobia of being photographed. ==

It says in the episode Todd Snap appears that Pikachu is afraid of having its picture taken.[[User:Mudkipzrule|Mudkipz Rule]] 21:42, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

== Pikachu batting Tsutarja in BW007 ==

Just curious but is there a specific reason as to why this was deleted?? It is a confirmed event so I don't see a problem with putting it in there.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 20:54, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok seriously who keeps on deleting this come on its a confirmed event jeez I don't see what the big deal???[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 02:09, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

:Adding it in other pages are important. But Pikachu is this focus. Not every minor details will be added to the ''Ash's Pikachu'' page. If not, there will be a whole list of wild Pokémon that Pikachu had battled with. --[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 02:12, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok but this isn't just any wild pokemon because Ash might capture this Tsutarja. Thats why I put it on the page and thats why I think it belongs on the page.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 02:18, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

:Pikachu battling with [[Ash's Pidgeot|Pidgeotto]] or [[Ash's Swellow|Taillow]]? They are not added too. Just leave it for now, unless it's super-notable.--[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 02:22, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

So why is mamepato battling it or mijumaru battling it noteworthy I put it on miju's page too. What's the difference??? And why does it bother anyone that what I don't understand.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 03:07, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
: Because they're new while Pikachu predates them by over 660 something episodes (and Mamepato REALLY needs more info) [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 03:12, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

:::{{tt|Although I have not much say in this|I'm not an Admin :p}}, Pikachu had been with Ash for more than 4 series while Mamepato and Mijumaru are ''new'' Pokémon owned by Ash. However, I think that in future times, all those not important will be deleted; those notable will remain. --[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 03:14, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Ya so for now why can't it be left if it can be deleted later then just leave it know as a reference so that when someone comes on to pikachu's page they can see that it will be doing something in this episode.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 03:26, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

==Should Ash's Pikachu know Leer?==

*In his move list, it says that Pikachu knows Leer, even though it says in the episode it was used that it didn't actually know the move, and just made a funny face. [[User:Teddy6ursa|Teddy6ursa]] 18:09, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

== Pichu ==
I think we should put pichu as Pkachu's pre-evolution in the info box. The reason for this being that Pichu is a guaranteed product of any Pikachu and Riachu breeding and that it is not like other baby Pokémon that need an item to be produced. This meens that every Pikachu including Ash's Pikachu was at one point a Pichu.--'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]][[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''' 21:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
:The last time this was brought up: ''Actually, yes they all start out life as Pichu. It's only the Pokémon with pre-evolved forms GenIII and beyond that can be born not as there baby forms i.e. Marill. It doesn't really matter. Ash didn't have Pikachu when it was Pichu so therefore it can't be counted. [[User:Kenji-girl|☆ケンジガール]] 23:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)''. And I agree. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:32, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

== Redirect Request ==

Could someone please create a redirect for "Pikachu (anime)", seems odd that there isnt one already. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 20:57, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

== Pikachu's Poké Ball ==

About Pikachu's Poké Ball. The Poké Ball with a lighting bolt mark from Professor Oak's Laboratory has never been owned by Ash (Gary's Blastoise is held in a regular Poké Ball and not in the Poké Ball labeled in Japanese from Professor Oak's Laboratory), as Ash, for exemple, uses a regular Poké Ball to try to recall Pikachu in the ep001 (Ash tries to get it in, but it hits the ball back every time), and when several Spearow came in front of Ash (Ash put a regular Poke Ball next to Pikachu), and also in the ep005 against Onix, Ash uses a regular Poké Ball to try to recall it. We can therefore affirm that Pikachu's Poké Ball is a regular Poke Ball, and in all these episodes when Ash try to recall it, the Pikachu's (regular) Poké Ball is the same. The red light ray coming out of a poke ball means that it possesses a pokemon, in this case "Pikachu" (like in the ep005 against Onix).
[[User:Clark|Clark]] 14:44, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
::Also in one of the pokemon advanced episodes, ash leaves all his pokeballs under a tree, he had 4 pokemon with him and all 4 pokeballs were shown to be regular pokeballs.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 23:39, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
:::I think we have better write the subject to "may", because it was not officially stated.
Who knows? The animators might have forgetten about it...? [[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 08:23, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm not agree about what you said, this is an evidence ! The animators are not stupid to forget about it in several episodes and in several scenes when Ash tries to recall pikachu into its Poke ball.
Pikachu's current Poke Ball must be one of the six Poké Balls that Professor Oak gave to Ash in ep001 (Ash choosed one of the six Poké Balls to be Pikachu's Poké Ball). The same thing can be said about Gary's Blastoise. We follow the logic !
[[User:Clark|Clark]] 13:08, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Can you tell me which episode of advanced generation it is ? [[User:Scatland|Scatland]] 19:23, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

== In the manga, Ash's Pikachu is featured. ==

But is that it, is that all we really know about Ash's Pikachu in the Pokémon manga? I realise that this article has been featured before and was voted against being featured due to lack of information in the manga section. In my opinion the summaries used are very brief and just acknowledge that Pika has been featured in the manga, rather than give details on character development and such. For example, the anime section uses tons of specific information about Pikachu while the manga section has virtually no information about Pikachu. I guess to get to the point, is there a manga-savvy out there who could add more information to the "In the manga" section. I'd do it myself if I had any Pokémon manga but I don't so I decided to simply request help for this article. Also, maybe a template could be added to the section such as [[Template:Sectionstub|this.]] --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 00:27, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== Thunder Wave ==

Doesn't Pikachu know Thunder Wave? Didn't it use it to attract the Magnemite in that episode "Get Along 'lil Pokémon" (or something like that title)--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 07:52, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Improvised move - 10 Volts? ==
In [[BW017]], Satoshi orders Pikachu to use Thunderbolt (10,000 Volts in Japan), but then amends it to 10 Volts. This appears as a tiny spark-like poke towards Zuruggu. Is this notable enough to be in the improvised moves section? --[[User:Jda95|jda95]] 09:11, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:I don't think weakened attacks count. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 09:45, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

== Volt Tackle? ==

Y is there a † next to Vol Tackle? The Last four attacks it used were Iron Tail, Quick Attack, Thunderbolt, and Electro Ball.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 22:37, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
:Because the rule is "If it used the attack within the last 10 episodes, it is considered recent". --[[User:Jediknightdtv|ジェダイの騎士]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|デジタルテレビ]] 23:07, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
::Did Pikachu forget Volt Tackle (like in the games how a Pokemon can only know four moves and needs to drop one)?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 23:59, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
:::No evidence of it. Pokémon have been shown to use more than four moves in one episode. Games =/= Anime. They probably just want to pay attention to Electro Ball for a while. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:03, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
::::Oh, alright.--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 00:04, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
:::::Kenji, they already stated that it's 4 moves back in the Sinnoh League when Infernape learned Flare Blitz. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 00:38, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
::::::[[Drake's Dragonite|This is what I am referring to]]. Has not always been like that. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:54, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
:::::::I thought the Infernape thing was a mistranslation or something? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 01:06, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

== Minor edit ==

''A Japanese event distributed an in-game representation of Ash's Pikachu via Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection and at participating Japanese McDonald's locations which was held from July 15th through August 10, 2010. This Pikachu will be distributed at participating American Toys 'R' Us locations from January 30 to February 13, 2011, and Canadian Toys 'R' Us locations from February 9 to February 20, 2011.

''Pikachu was one of Ash's three Pokémon in Pokémon Puzzle League. The Pikachu in the Super Smash Bros. series may be based on Ash's Pikachu.

''Unlike Ash's Pikachu, this Pikachu does not reject the Thunderstone, and can be evolved at any time.''''''

--

'''In the games''' section -- Last line should be tacked onto the first paragraph. I can't edit this page, but someone should fix this. Thanks. --[[User:Gymnotide|Gymnotide]] 04:37, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

== Electro ball ==

Pikachu uses electro, wich it can't without a tm. So does this mean ash has a tm or something [[User:Bobosmith01|~Bobo]] 13:22, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
:Pikachu can learn it by level up. :--[[User:SuperAipom7|SuperAipom7]] ''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|Questions?]])'' 13:25, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
::Games are different than the anime, as simple as that. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']]♪♫ 13:26, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
:::Very true. :--[[User:SuperAipom7|SuperAipom7]] ''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|Questions?]])'' 13:34, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

== Swift-Quick Attack ==

This improvised move is the only one which hasn't got the title of the episode where it was (first) used. Could someone please add it, because I don't know what episode it is? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] 11:44, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

==New Combo==

Can Pikachu using Thunder Bolt to power up Electro Ball be conciderd an improvised move or a combo??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 21:38, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
:I don't think so, maybe that whole "Power up" thing can be part of using Electro Ball. Give me a second, which episode did you saw that on? --[[User:SimonOrJ|SimonOrJ]] 23:22, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
::They're referring to [[BW038]]. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 23:29, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

== In rotation? ==

We know Ash will never take Pikachu out of his current team, so is ''In rotation'' correct? [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 16:42, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
:There is always a possibility. Best Wishes is trying new things obviously. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 16:48, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
::And he has rotated Pikachu away during Silver Conference.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 16:57, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

== Pika-pi ==

Will someone please tell me why we deleted Pikachu's name for Ash?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 15:29, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Castelia City

2011-03-13T02:59:22Z

Celibi25: /* Zorua */

==Castelia City's slogan==
I edited the page with the slogan, which I obtained from this video. [http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/23718/news/pokmon-black-white-gameplay-video-shows-castelia-city/] --[[User:SpeedSuicune|SpeedSuicune]] 21:21, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
== Expected future event? ==
Can't we make a template that says something like:

" '''The subject of this article is of a location which has [[Future generations of Pokémon|not yet become available in the games.]]''' This article's contents will change as more information becomes available, perhaps abruptly. Please be cautious when adding information to this article, as rumors and speculation can often be confused with facts. Avoid any information on this subject which is not confirmed by reliable sources. Some art on this page, to suit Bulbapedia templates, may not be official. "

--[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 13:30, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
:You mean like [[template:Upcoming notice|this]]? [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 13:33, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

::Yes like that, but think about it, Hiun City ISN'T a future EVENT it's a LOCATION. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 13:58, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
:::I think the only specialised "future" template we have is the one for new Pokémon and one thats like "this is a current event in the anime". Most people know "future event" means the appearance of the location in the game, so I personally think it's okay where it is. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 15:12, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

== Stones on the Dock==
Hey, I don't think the method of getting the elemental stones on the dock is dependent on the monkey you received. I received the water monkey and was given the leaf stone. Can anyone else verify this? [[User:Alloran|Alloran]] 13:11, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
:Apparently, that happens depending on the option you choose when talking to him. I know this because I got a Baoppu and I got a Leaf Stone from him, too. --[[User:Shining Latios|Shining Latios]] 21:05, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::Translating a little of what he says: "Yanappu, Baoppu and Hiyappu are 3 Pokémon that evolve with special stones. Which Pokémon would you like to see evolving?" Options: "1)Yanappu 2)Baoppu 3)Hiyappu 4)Cancel" Choose one of them, then choose the first option for Yes and you'll receive the stone for that Pokémon. Blow 00:30, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

== Glitch? ==

I battled a Dancer with a Yanappu in the park instead of the one with a Baoppu in the pier. Is that normal? --[[User:Shining Latios|Shining Latios]] 20:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:There are three of them. The page isn't complete. Feel free to add it to the page if you have the info. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:58, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks. The third one is at the Slim Street. Can someone add them? I can't because I can't read Japanese. EDIT: The tables are there but I don't know how to fix them. Can someone help? --[[User:Shining Latios|Shining Latios]] 21:05, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Sky Arrow Bridge ==
Shouldn't the Sky Arrow Bridge have its own page? I think there's enough about it that such a page could be made, and it's technically not a part of Hiun City. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 12:03, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, it should. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:19, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

==Shigeki Morimoto==
Shouldn't Shigeki Morimoto be listed on the trainers list? M-''[[User:Meekio|eeeeeek]]''-[[User talk:Meekio|io]] 20:10, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
:Do you not see the banner says this article is incomplete? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 00:01, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
::We have his party on his page, so I think that we should copy it here. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:32, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

== One Last Question ==

I added the information about the third dancer (the one with Hiyappu) but for some reason it's not showing up. Anyone knows what's causing the problem? --[[User:Shining Latios|Shining Latios]] 02:21, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
:It had been commented out. I unhid it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:35, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks. --[[User:Shining Latios|Shining Latios]] 05:36, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

== Lots of information about Hiun City ==

Hello, I have a lot of information to add, but don't have time to organize. I'll put them here and someone plz add them later to the article.
*There's a Pokémon massagist in the building in front of Game Freak. She gives one massage per day.
*In Atelier Hiun, there's a clown that asks you to show a Pokémon of certain type each day. If you do so, he lets you choose one of the five berries: Cheri, Chesto, Pecha, Rawst and Aspear.
*In the north street (way to Route 4), there are 3 buildings:
**In the left one, there's and old man that changes Pokémon names and, in the 11th floor, there's a scientist that asks you two passwords of two words each. This enables the Transfer Machine (similar to Mystery Gift). In the japanese version, the first password is みんな　ハッピー (everyone happy) and the second is かんたん　つうしん (easy conection).
**In the second building to the right, there's a scientist that verifies the number of seen Pokémon. I received the item しんかのきせき (I think this item name is Evolution Locus, but a literal translation would be Evolution Miracle) for showing a Pokédex with 33 seen Pokémon. Searching the net, someone got it with 28 seen Pokémon. What about you?
All information put here may refer only to White version, someone plz verify it in Black version.
I'd like to discuss another thing. The first Dancer I battled was the grass monkey (Yanappu) one. My first Pokémon was Tsutarja. I'd like to know if everyone battled first the Yanappu dancer at Central Park, or if the first battle was with the Dancer that had the monkey of the same type as your first Pokémon. Blow 15:31, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
: Answer to the monkey question: No, you have to battle the Dancer with Yanappu first, it's not dependant on the Starter. I battled him first and my starter was Mijumaru. --[[User:Shining Latios|Shining Latios]] 18:00, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

==Evolution Stone==

Didn't feel like making the addition of this to Stat Increasing Held Items, as I honestly don't have the knowledge of every Pre-Evolution pokemon that this takes effect for.

You get it from the scientist as I stated in the article (In the building with Name Rater) when you have Seen 25+ (or so) Pokemon.

Item Info:

Evolution Stone

A piece of evolutions wonder. If held, a pre-evolved Pokemon's Defense and Sp. Defense will be boosted.

By pre-evolved it seems to mean Pokemon like Pichu, etc that are baby forms of other Pokemon as far as I can figure. I know it didn't change the listed stats for Otamaro when I equipped it with it, or for any of my other Pokemon.{{unsigned|Bugmenot}}
:The stat change due to a held item is never visible on the stats page. I assume it means Pokémon which have at least another evolution stage remaining. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:16, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
::From what I've read, the stat increase is greater for Pokemon which have two evolutionary stages left. Don't remember by how much, though. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 13:20, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
:::As I've written in the section above, it's japanese name is Evolution Miracle. I went back and talked to the scientist again. He says:
:::{{tt|ただし　こうかを　はっきするのは　しんかする　ポケモンの　しんかまえの　じょうたい　だけという|It's said that its effects are activated only on Pokémon that can evolve and that are in a before-evolving condition}}.
:::With this, I think Evolution Miracle is meant to affect only Pokémon that will evolve next level.
:::But I believe all this discussion should be moved to the Stat-increasing held items page. --[[User:Blow|Blow]] '''([[User talk:Blow|話す]])''' 17:54, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

== Image ==

The image has writing on it so should it be replaced? [[User:Strongriver|Strongriver]] 04:50, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:55, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

== Zorua ==

On the page it says that a girl shows the player a picture of Zorua to put in the pokedex in the Game Freak section in 'Places of Interest', but the Special Pokemon section in 'Pokemon' makes it appear that the player would receive a lv10 Zorua as a gift. Should this be changed so there's no confusion or does the player actually receive a Zorua here? [[User:Azure42|Azure42]] 15:23, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
:[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=81150 You can get Zorua with the event Celebi here.] —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 15:44, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Okay :) but if it requires an event Celebi shouldn't it be known as an event pokemon too like the Spiky-Eared Pichu event in Ilex Forest? [[User:Azure42|Azure42]] 15:57, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Also, what's the blue building actually called? because it can be put in Places of Interest where the event can be explained [[User:Azure42|Azure42]] 16:09, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
:Actually, the blue building is the Game Freak headquarters, which is already in Places of Interest. I believe the true problem is to explain the Transfer Machine, which I pointed in this talk page that need to be added in the article. --[[User:Blow|Blow]] '''([[User talk:Blow|話す]])''' 19:03, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
ah right, the transfer machine does sound quite complicated so i'll leave that to someone more experienced just in case i get it wrong but at least we know where to put it all :) in the meantime, i'm just gonna change the Pokemon section so Zorua appears as an event pokemon [[User:Azure42|Azure42]] 19:20, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
::The [[Transfer Machine]] has it's own article so the full description here is not needed. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 19:22, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
right so that bit's sorted :) turns out it's much harder to change gift into event without the stairs showing up, can someone tell me how to do it/do it for me so i can see how it was done please :)? [[User:Azure42|Azure42]] 19:34, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

i've just changed it to 'Only One' like the Creation Trio is in the [[Sinjoh Ruins]] (which requires an event Arceus so it was the closest i could get) feel free to change it if you want [[User:Azure42|Azure42]] 20:01, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
:This Zorua is actually a gift. The creation trio... I'm not sure which one, but I think "gift" would be better for them too, since they are not battled. It already mentions that it is event only in the tool tip. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:54, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

When the girl is finished talking she looks at the boy and says "Why are you blushing?". Does anyone else think that boy...--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:59, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

==Demographics==
Hello Snorlax Master, I noticed you deleted the "Demographics" section a few days after I created it. I'm puzzled why you would delete it. Might you please explain why you deleted it. Is there a reason that we don't need it... ?
--[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 18:40, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:You should contact him on his talk page instead.[[User:The Sandwich Oven|The Sandwich Oven]] 18:45, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

== Pikachu ==

Wasn't it just stated that they wouldn't appear, as in ''in the wild'', not necessarily not appear all together? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 17:06, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
:After a bit of hunting, I found the {{n|Black and White to feature only Gen V Pokémon pre-National Dex|Bulbanews article}}, with a link to [http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir/?p=255 Masuda's blog]. I believe the sentence in question is 新ポケモンしか飛び出してきません！ --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:31, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

==Castellia City==
'''Castellia city''' is the largest city in the pokemon world, with high skyscrapers and a population of 130 plus 4 per second regenarating in streets where they walk along the sidewalk. Why then, is it "one of the largest", do they not count?
--[[User:Italay90|Italay90]] 18:17, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
:Because then the population count would go on forever. Too much and impossible. Only those that are stationary count.--[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 19:29, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
::Stop fighting over this because it is totally pointless. Han Ji-Wan, Castelia is the largest city in the Pokémon world by far. Raimon is smaller but has a bigger population, there is a difference. How large a city is is not determined by it's population, it's determined by size and Castelia clearly has Raimon beat. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 01:39, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Where did you get the idea that Castelia City is the largest city? Where's your proof? Yes, while Castelia looks bigger, grander, and has large skyscrapers, it does not mean it's the largest. For example, Singapore is a dense island city with a lot of tall skyscrapers, while London is more spread out, not as much notable skyscrapers and a larger population. You don't seem to understand the term, "largest city"... Yes, land area OR population mean "largest city", but I'm refering to population. Check your facts before criticizing me.--[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 03:07, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
::::How am I criticizing you? Oh wait, I'm not. Have you looked at Unova's official artwork. Castelia spans the entire middle peninsula, Raimon doesn't. That easily shows it's plenty bigger. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:31, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Population is what determines what we consider to be "large" when talking about cities. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:36, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::Nate is correct, but I think that we should avoid using the term "large" in this context. Instead, I would suggest "most populous". However, "large" is not incorrect if you are referring to population. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:48, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::That's only partially correct though. Size-wise it is bigger and most people would probably judge a city by size, not population. What's wrong with including them both? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:02, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::::It's pretty much impossible to find out what's the largest city in terms of land area. There's the game and the map art and more. The map is in no way, an accurate portrayal of the size of cities because it doesn't show all the details. So yeah, I guess you could do land area for each towns by counting the spaces. Vertically and horizontally and then multiply it to get the total land area.--[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 06:07, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::If we can't come to an agreement, why don't we just say it's the second-largest city by population, excluding the people running in the streets? I mean, that makes perfect sense to me. We could say something like, "Taking into account people running on the streets, Castelia is the largest city in the Pokémon world, having an infinite population. However, when these people are excluded and only those who are stationary are counted, Nimbasa's population exceeds Castelia's by 20 people." [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 21:23, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

== Lots of english names for places of interest ==

The Piggyback Pkmn B/W gameguide has english names for all the castelia places of interest. I don't know if guides are a reliable source for, especially, english names and if they are names coined by Piggyback. But is anyone interested in knowing the names? And should the names be used instead of the names that are now used on the wiki? Tell me and I'll place them here :) [[User:Alexjuuhh|Alexjuuhh]] 17:19, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
:Post them. Post all you've got. We'll be able to check its authenticity soon. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 17:20, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
::well, okay then :D I'll only post the ones that are different from the names on the wiki.
::Atelier Castelia = Studio Castelia
::Castelia Ice = Casteliacone
::Café = Café Sonata
::Passerby Survey Squad Headquarters = Passerby Analytics HQ
::Central Area = Castelia Central Area
::The Dock = Cruise Ship Dock
::Also, there's the Name-Rating Services, Pokémon Massage.
::And all the English names for the trainers you can battle in Castelia:
::Clerk ♀ Ingrid, Clerk ♀ Alberta, Scientist Randall, Clerk ♂ Clemens, Clerk ♂ Warren, Scientist Samantha, Scientist Steve, Clerk ♂ Ivan, Clerk ♂ Wade, Janitor Geoff, Dancer Mickey, Dancer Edmond, Dancer Raymond, Harlequin Kerry, Harlequin Jack, Harlequin Louis, Harlequin Rick.
::That's all I could find for now. If I find anything else before the release (4/6 march), I'll post it. (oh and yes, Piggyback listed clowns as Harlequins.)

:I think there's no reason to think that those aren't real. Casteliacone is (Serebii)-confirmed. Also, Harlequin instead of Clown might not be an error, since those are two different classes in Japanese (Pierrot and Clown), so the English versions could've reflected this difference too. What I don't like is that Bussinessmen and OLs are both called "Clerk" but I guess that NoA is the one to be blamed. Also, those guides are generally reliable but they DO have errors here and there. Also, sign your comments. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 17:56, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
::yeah, guess you're right. And I forgot to sign that comment.. :') sorry. [[User:Alexjuuhh|Alexjuuhh]] 18:29, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Egg Move

2011-03-03T16:50:21Z

Celibi25: /* More confusion from someone else */ new section

== Moves listed as "Start" on Pokemon that cannot be obtained through breeding ==

Pokemon at the top of the evolutionary chain, which cannot be obtained through breeding, have moves listed as "Start". For example, [[Togekiss]] learns aura sphere at the start, but there is no way to breed a Togekiss, as it is at the top of the evolutionary chain. Also, legendary Pokemon have moves listed at start, but they have no egg group. Can somebody explain this? {{unsigned|Dreeb}}
:No, egg moves are those gained in breeding, not at the "start". Start moves can only be learned through the [[move relearner]]. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:44, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

==Plural?==
Why is the title '''Egg moves''', instead of '''Egg move'''? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:37, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
:It's not any more. Titles should be in the singular. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:46, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

== Huston, I Have a Confusion ==
I bred the following two Pokémon:
{{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Pearl
|ndex=321
|pokemon=Wailord
|nickname={{tt|Moby|Because he took forever to find.}}
|gender=male
|type1=Water
|ability=Oblivious
|level=54
|move1=Water Spout
|move1type=Water
|move1catcat=Special
|move2=Amnesia
|move2type=Psychic
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Dive
|move3type=Water
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Bounce
|move4type=Flying
|move4cat=Physical}}
{{Pokémon
|gen=4
|ndex=190 f
|pokemon=Aipom
|gender=female
|game=Pearl
|type1=Normal
|ability=Pickup
|level=36
|move1=Baton Pass
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Tickle
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Fury Swipes
|move3type=Normal
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Fling
|move4type=Dark
|move4cat=Physical}}
And the offspring was
{{Pokémon
|gen=4
|ndex=190 f
|pokemon=Aipom
|gender=female
|game=Pearl
|type1=Normal
|ability=Run Away
|level=1
|move1=Scratch
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Tail Whip
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status}}

With Aipom only knowing its two start moves.
Shouldn't it have known Bounce, one of its egg moves?
The only reason I can come up with is that Wailord learned Bounce in the Day-Care and wasn't taken out until after he bred with Aipom.

Please help! ----[[User:Zewis29|Zewis]] [[User talk:Zewis29|(2]][[Special:Contributions/Zewis29|9)]] 11:15, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
:Your only reason is right. Put them back in the daycare and try again, the eggs should hatch into Bounce Aipom this time. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 12:00, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
::Thank you a lot. I'll try it. ----[[User:Zewis29|Zewis]] [[User talk:Zewis29|(2]][[Special:Contributions/Zewis29|9)]] 14:09, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

== More confusion from someone else ==

I don't get it. My male tyranitar with dark pulse won't pass the move onto a newborn charmander. Why not?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 16:50, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Hydreigon (Pokémon)

2011-03-03T16:29:17Z

Celibi25: /* English name */

== Name Origin ==
The name part "Zan" is similar to "san", 3 in japanese, is a reference to how many heads it has. {{unsigned|Franztrovao}}

== Discussion on moving to "Sazandra (Pokémon)" ==

'''Move'''. The "ra" is obviously there, and was probably missed when the name "Sazando" was created. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 10:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
:..how did that get missed? [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 01:40, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
::Should it be moved? [[User:DeadUniverse|DeadUniverse]] [[User talk:DeadUniverse|Hello!]] 08:29, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
::NO. [[User:Ethan brendan lucas|Hi!]] [[User talk:Ethan brendan lucas|Talk to me!]] 02:49 p.m., 1 October 2010 (not UCT).
:::Why not?--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|でんのう]] ☢ [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|'''Z'''えんし]] 18:55, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Sazandra is the romanization of this Pokémon's name. Therefore, why not move it accordingly? ~[[User:Kianglo|Kianglo]] 20:50, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Has it come out officially yet? If not, we should move it to "Sazandora" first. Serebii has actually changed it now. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 00:00, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::I have no idea. It was the people at Serebii first, I think. It's understandable - I mean, I missed the "do" in front of "doryuuzu" when I first tried to romanize its name. But now that we know what it is correctly, we should change it accordingly, is what I think. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 00:00, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, the kana reads "Sa-za-n-do-ra," which would suggest "Sazandora," but the pronunciation is more like "Sazandra," based on general rules of the language. So it depends on whether we want the actual or the phonetic pronunciation, but from looking at the majority of the pages here, the Japanese names are spelled phonetically. I'd recommend "Sazandra" (because I have a theory that "-dra" comes from "Hydra" or maybe "dragon.") ~[[User:Kianglo|Kianglo]] 00:41, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Yeah, it's obviously "dra", like Urugamoth instead of Urugamosu.--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|でんのう]] ☢ [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|'''Z'''えんし]] 06:37, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::Since everyone agrees, I'm going to move it. Anyway, it is incorrect now, so it needs to be fixed as soon as possible. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:04, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::Just my own two cents: Kingdra. Seadra. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:31, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I would like Sazandra. Also, shouldn't is be noted that mono- = one, jihe in Chinese means group (v.), and zan (or san) is three? {{unsigned|444Zekrom}}
::::::::Who revived this discussion? TTE? Boy, I'ma cut you.
::::::::''Sazandora'' is the [http://www1.ipdl.inpit.go.jp/syutsugan/TM_IMAGE_A.cgi?220100681420000000000000000000000000000000&0001&1&128717063118087201405040 trademarked romaji]. We use trademarked romaji once we have it. We aren't moving this article to anything that isn't "Sazandora" until the English names come 'round. End of discussion. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:21, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

== Sazandora based on King Ghidorah ==

A bit of copy and paste from Ulgamoth's talk page, but oh well...

I know that if someone adds to the origin that Sazandora may have been inspired by {{wp|King Ghidorah}}, it will get taken done because it is apparently just an opinion. However, the two share similarities in appearance, destructive tendencies, ability to fly (levitate for sazandora) and Sazandora's name may also even be based on Ghidorah's. I don't think this is just an "opinion", and may be a legitimate origin.

Your thoughts? - [[User:050294|050294]] 09:06, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

*They're right next to each other in the National Dex. Exhibit B. [[User:Yurtablemoron|Yurtablemoron]] 06:49, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:To say this Pokémon is based on something in popular culture is an opinion. Regardless of how much it sounds like it's based on it, you can't say it's based on King Ghidorah because it's an opinion. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 19:09, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
::Problem with what you're saying Sketch: Hydra ain't got no wings and cannot float by any means. Ghidorah can, so the Hydra CANNOT be the only explanation. Since you are not Game Freak you cannot control what a Pokémon is based on like that, as it is GAME FREAK's decision on what a Pokémon is based on. If they have Sazandora based on Ghidorah then they have Sazandora based on Ghidorah, end of story. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 19:58, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Like I just said on the other one, you aren't GameFreak either. It is your opinion that this is what the Pokémon is based on. Since it is your opinion, and not fact, it cannot be said that it is its origin. Unless you can prove it, with physical evidence that says the Pokémon is based on this monster, it cannot be said, period. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 01:22, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
::::But isn't it your opinion that this is not based, or at least makes reference, on Ghidorah? Therefore, you'd need evidence that it was NOT based on it before removing possible origins. - [[User:050294|050294]] 02:01, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::And due to the wings and destructive nature stated by PokéDex entries, there's more evidence relating to Ghidorah than evidence not relating it to Ghidorah. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 08:07, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::I personally think you guys provided enough evidence here. I mean Ghidorah... Sazandora... they sound similar. And it's next to the Pokémon that resembles Mothra in the Pokédex. You've convinced me anyway. And it wouldn't be the first time we have icons of pop culture in the origins section. What about all the references to Pulseman we have? I think that if their is enough evidence supporting it, than it should be mentioned as a possible origin. I won't deny that it is an opinion, but so are pretty much all origin sections. Pop culture or not. That's my 2 cents --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:37, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::In that same vein, it has (rightfully) been pointed out that {{p|Abagoura}} is likely to have been based on {{wp|Gamera}}. I think that the connection made between {{p|Archeos}} and {{wp|Gyaos}} is a little more tenuous, but there are some similarities. Above all, though, I think it would be highly appropriate to at least make reference to Ghidorah as a possible influence. [[User:Kamen no Otoko|Kamen no Otoko]] 12:59, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Abagoura being based on Gamera is a bit more tenuous IMO; frankly, Blastoise looks more similar. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 16:04, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::This is why you don't put stuff like this up, because it's an opinion that everyone may not share. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 16:26, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::You saying that these Pokémon aren't based on Kaiju is ALSO an opinion, as like you said, everyone may not share, which is right, as you're the ONLY one here saying they're not based on Kaiju. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 19:06, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Actually the armor and "fangs" makes Abagoura look more like Gamera than Blastoise. - [[User:050294|050294]] 18:10, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
:See, it looks more like a mask than "fangs" to me. But arguing about Abagoura really doesn't belong here, so I'll just let y'all keep talking about Sazandora and King Ghidora. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 20:37, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
::I could believe Mothra, but not this. Sazandora looks NOTHING like King Ghidora. The only similarities are that they are both flying three-headed dragons, which are highly common in popular culture. Not only that, but its other 2 heads aren't even real heads like Ghidora; the Pokédex states that they don't have brains, and they are really just heads on the ends of arms. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 01:52, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
I personally think that sazandora is based on king ghidorah I mean the names sound alot alike and they look alot alike. Its kinda like how feraligatr is based on godzilla. {{unsigned|Mewtwomaster}}
:WTF? Feraligatr ISN'T based on godzilla. Don't add to discussions unless you have something meaningful to contribute (and by meaningful I mean new evidence, not just opinion). And also, sign your posts. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 00:46, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
:now now..let's not bite peoples heads off andy... but he's right..Feraligatr and Godzilla look nothing alike [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 00:50, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
::Well the large spikes on Feraligatr's head, back, and tail DO resemble those seen on Godzilla..... But otherwise the two share nothing in common unless Feraligatr happened to have recover and STAB for Hyper Beam, but even then I wouldn't say those would be similarities either.... [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 19:58, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Um what about Hydro Cannon? That could be a version of Godzilla's atomic breath.[[User:Mewtwomaster|Mewtwomaster]] 22:27, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
:Those moves are nothing alike..[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 23:03, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
Well there both blue and I've always thought that it was a beam like attack.[[User:Mewtwomaster|Mewtwomaster]] 14:29, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Hello there, I'm new so I don't really know how to sign my posts in advance, but please excuse me.
Feraligatr looks like the American Godzilla. Sceptile is the one for Japanese Godzilla. And also, there is no other option of a Pokemon looking like Ghidorah but Dodrio, which dosen't look anything like it as it's a three headed bird. Sazandora is more monsterous looking. I must also point out that Ulgamoth looks nothing like Mothra. Beautifly has her wings but Butterfree is what it's similar to. Also, a Shiny Butterfree♂ would look like Mothra Leo. But as a matter of fact, this whole discussion page is really about the similarity between Sazandora and King Ghidorah. They both have the "dora" in their names. Also, Sazandora can learn Charge Beam, so that can be used for King Ghidorah's gravity/lightning beams. - PeterFoster111, 15/02/11, 09:20.

== Error ==

I found an error and I'm lost on how to fix it so maybe by telling "you" the error maybe you can fix it. But in the Pokedex entries it says that this Pokemon was not obtainable prior to generation (one), when it should be "was not prior to Generation (five)" with the whole Roman numeral thing. However when I looked at the source I couldn't see anything wrong with it (with my limited knowledge on "wiki-type" editing). So hopefully you can fix it. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 10:45, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
:Found it. There was a stray "？" in the gen parameter not commented out, so the template got confused.([[User:Dion24|'''Dion''']][[User talk:Dion24|'''24''']]) 11:04, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
::I actually got rid of the ? as well. It's not required; clearly we don't know the Black entry if it's not there. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:08, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Speaking of which, I've noticed that most of the new Pokémon only have dex entries for White version. Does no one on the wiki have Black, or are the entries the same in each one? --[[User:Element03|Element03]] 15:05, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Sorry, I just looked and we do have the entries. Nevermind. --[[User:Element03|Element03]] 15:11, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

== Dark Pulse ==

Mind telling me how a Pokemon learns an egg move by breeding with it's own species when it doesn't learn that move by level up or TM? It says Dark Pulse can be bred onto Sazandora by breeding with another Sazandora but it doesn't learn the move by level up. Neither Monozu nor Jiheddo learn it by level up either...... [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 19:55, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
:It learns it as a Monozu. [[User:Pikiwyn|'''''Pikiwyn''''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 20:17, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::Like I said already, Monozu doesn't learn it by level up either. The ONLY Dark Type moves Monozu learns at all are Bite and Crunch. Are you sure you're not getting confused with Dragon Pulse? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 01:02, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
:(edit conflict) I haven't tried it myself, but I hear it's a breeding oddity in BW. Apparently you have to teach it as a TM in Gen IV to a Pokémon that can breed with Monozu's line, then PokéShift. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 20:18, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

== Catch Rate ==

Is the catch rate really 190? That's abnormally high for a Pseudo-legendary. --[[User:Burnt Toffee|Burnt Toffee]] 15:07, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

== Origin ==

I think it's origin is probobly a Hydra. Look it up on Google {{unsigned|Mesuxelf}}
:First of all, you should sign all posts on talk pages with four tildes (~). In regards to your suggestion, it used to be on the page. I assume it no longer is because the new origin more accurately describes the Pokémon (a key element of the Hydra legend is that it grows two more heads for each head cut off, which does not apply to Sazandora). --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 19:47, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
yep.----[[User:Ethan brendan lucas|EBL]] ''([[User talk:Ethan brendan lucas|talk to me!]])'' 21:06, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
:The hydra is a poisonous water serpent with multiple heads. Other than both being Polycephal, Sazandora is nothing like the Lernaean Hydra of Greek lore. - [[User:050294|050294]] 04:21, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

== Brutality ==

This is just trivia, but ain't [[Sharpedo (Pokémon)|Sharpedo]] the Brutal Pokémon, too? --[[User:PantheonSasuke|PantheonSasuke]] 22:04, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
:The name could change in translation, so we shouldn't have species name trivia for Gen V Pokémon yet. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:27, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
::If that's the case, someone might wanna take down mention of [[Espeon (Pokémon)|Espeon]] and [[Sunflora (Pokémon)|Sunflora]] in [[Ulgamoth (Pokémon)|Ulgamoth's]] article... --[[User:PantheonSasuke|PantheonSasuke]] 00:41, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
:::I think it should be hidden until the English species names are confirmed. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:50, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

== English name ==
Just to let you all know, the english names have been confirmed. Sazandora's english name is Hydreigon. Its evolutionary family's names (Deino, Zweilous, and Hydreigon) all contain the German words for one, two, and three (Eins, Zwei, and Drei) based on the number of heads they have. As such, Hydreigon's name appears to come from "Hydra," "drei," and "dragon." --[[User:Kianglo|Kianglo]] 00:42, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
:Unless you can provide an official source, we can only assume that this name came from a fansite. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:34, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::Can ANYONE notice the similarity in Hydreigon to HYDROGEN?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 16:29, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Route

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Celibi25: /* Hoenn Route 117... */

==Basis for the named route definition==
See [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Routes#Widening the scope?]]. --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|C]] 04:16, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

== Lookout station? ==

I see a lot of Route pages with information and sometimes links to [[lookout station]]. Did this used to be an article, or do some just assume it's an article...? They're pretty common everywhere, so shouldn't they have their own article? Or are they known by something different? '''[[User:Gabbie|gabbie]]''' | '''[[User_talk:Gabbie|talk]]''' 22:37, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

:I'm not sure that that type of building has an official name. I've personally always called them "guardhouses" myself...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:40, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

::I've seen that too...I've always kind of referred to them as "the little houses you go through to get to the next route or city." :P But, with a common name, shouldn't they have their own article of some sort? Even if redirects need to be made. '''[[User:Gabbie|gabbie]]''' | '''[[User_talk:Gabbie|talk]]''' 22:47, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

:::The real problem is trying to find the most commonly-used term. It's not going to be easy to find out what the majority thinks about these types of buildings, that's for sure. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:52, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

::::Put up a poll on Bulbagarden you think? I've never named them, just thought they were a pain because you can't ride bikes in most of them. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 22:56, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::You could in Gen II... --'''[[User:Gabbie|gabbie]]''' | '''[[User_talk:Gabbie|talk]]''' 22:59, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Actually, I saw lookout station on the wanted pages with the most links out of things like guardhouse, etc... so I just changed them all to lookout station hoping someone would create the article. This was a long time ago. But that is why they are al lookout station. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 23:01, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

::::::Well, I could make the article. I think it's important, at least. --'''[[User:Gabbie|gabbie]]''' | '''[[User_talk:Gabbie|talk]]''' 23:10, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

==Unova Routes==

Hey I think we should change the names Isshu route 1 to Unova route 1 and ect. But then we would have to make redirect links to all the routs huh? [[User:Pokemaster97|Pokemaster97]] 00:08, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

== Hoenn Route 117... ==

Are you SURE that Volbeat appear on Hoenn route 117 in ruby? I have encountered at least THREE-HUNDRED pokemon there and I have not found ONE! Or mabye they only appear at one time of day... Can someone fill me in?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:13, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
:Hint: This discussion might be better to have on the discussion page for [[Hoenn Route 117]].--[[User:RiverAura|River]][[User_Talk:RiverAura|Aura]] 02:28, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::I know that, I just wanted to find a page with more "traffic".--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 21:44, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Route

2011-02-15T02:13:54Z

Celibi25: /* Hoenn Route 117... */ new section

Talk:Core series/Archive 1

2011-02-10T11:35:05Z

Celibi25: /* Speculation... */ new section

== Just wondering? ==

In the Japanese version's of any main series game, does the word "version" exist or is that just international usage. Because on the box arts it just say for example Pearl or Ruby.--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 02:42, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

* Each generation's third version does not use its mascots official Ken Sugimori artwork. Blastoise (Japanese), Pikachu (Japanese and English), Suicune, Rayquaza, and Giratina use specially made artwork.

The original Red, Green, and Blue, and the English Gold and Silver don't seem to use the official artwork either. Am I wrong? Or did he publish more than one official work of these back then? - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 07:51, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== Colors ==

I don't know where else to put this, so since I noticed it here first, I'll put it here. I'm not very familiar with the way wikis work, but I've noticed in the source that each Version has its own "color". I'm not talking about the name of the game, I'm talking about the HTML color that it's assigned in the wiki. For example, Red Version's "color" ("red color") is #FF1111, and FireRed's "color" ("firered color") is #FFAAAA. Anyway, what I'd like to know is...where did those specific colors come from? How were those specific colors chosen? And why aren't White and Black Version's "colors" #000000 and #FFFFFF, respectively, instead of what they are currently (#444444 and #C3C3C3, respectively)? I can understand that lighter/darker colors were chosen for visibility purposes, but as the colors are right now, SoulSilver's color (#E1E1E1) is whiter than White's own color! It just doesn't look right, having ''White'' Versions be less white than SoulSilver Version... —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 22:36, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:Well... we also have "Black color dark/light" and "White color dark/light". You can't make white lighter, and you can't make black darker. Sooo. Also it's a really bad idea to have pure white text... when the default background is white. Another thing is, as you pointed out, Red isn't pure #ff0000. So why should BW be their 'pure' color? D:
:... oh yeah and #000 is kinda the default text color, too... >_> ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 22:41, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, I understand that. But shouldn't we change either SoulSilver's color or White's color, because it doesn't look right with SoulSilver's color being whiter than White's... Also, is there a page that lists all the colors, along with their light and dark versions? I'd like to make a list of them all, but digging through the source code isn't exactly the most convenient method, lol. (I'm using the colors for something I'm doing.) —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 23:18, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:::I apologise for the format; I took these out of an Excel file I have. Some of the light colors are now outdated (as in, we changed them on the pedia and I didn't change them on my sheet) and I only have up until Platinum.
:::{| class=expandable
|-
| Click show to view
|-
| <ab>'''Regular'''
Bug A8B820
Dark 705848
Dragon 7038F8
Electric F8D030
Fighting C03028
Fire F08030
Flying A890F0
Ghost 705898
Grass 78C850
Ground E0C068
Ice 98D8D8
Normal A8A878
Poison A040A0
Psychic F85888
Rock B8A038
Steel B8B8D0
Water 6890F0
??? 68A090
Blue 1111FF
Colo B6CAE4
Crystal 4FD9FF
Diamond AAAAFF
Emerald 00A000
FireRed FF7327
Gold DAA520
Green 11BB11
L.Green 00DD00
Pearl FFAAAA
Platinum 999999
Red FF1111
Ruby A00000
Sapphire 0000A0
Silver C0C0C0
XD 604E82
Yellow FFD733
Beauty 6890F0
Cute F85888
Cool F08030
Smart 78C850
Tough F8D030
'''Light'''
Bug CEDE48
Dark A2958D
Dragon 9F77FF
Electric FCEEB6
Fighting E5524A
Fire F9D2B6
Flying CEBFFB
Ghost A18DC4
Grass ACEA8C
Ground F8DD92
Ice BDF3F3
Normal E0E0CF
Poison D878D8
Psychic F99CB8
Rock E6DDB9
Steel E6E6EE
Water 9BB8FE
??? CADDD8
Blue 7777FF
Colo DDE6F1
Crystal B2EEFF
Diamond CCCCFF
Emerald 2ED42E
FireRed FF9359
Gold FFCB49
Green 28E228
L.Green 32FA32
Pearl FFCCCC
Platinum BBBBBB
Red FF7777
Ruby D42E2E
Sapphire 2E2ED4
Silver E3E3E3
XD 8674A8
Yellow FEEF46
Beauty 9DB7F5
Cute FA92B2
Cool F5AC78
Smart A7DB8D
Tough FAE078
</ab>
|}
:::Hope that helps. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:27, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Thanks for that. I'm just curious... How were the colors for Colosseum and XD chosen? Also, what's the verdict on the SoulSilver/White color issue? —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 23:40, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

== Generation V: Inverted Pairings ==

Generation V is the first time that the pairings between version color and version mascot are '''inverted'''. (I.E. Reshiram, the White Dragon, is the version mascot of Pokémon Black while Zekrom, the Black Dragon, is the version mascot of Pokémon White.) --[[User:Arima|Arima]] 03:01, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

== Font Colors ==

I haven't figured out how to but can someone change the font color for Red, Blue, Ruby and Sapphire in the box? They are either incredibly hard to see or you can't see them at all. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 19:36, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

== Speculation... ==

I can't help thinking that the third version to pokemon black and white will be pokemon gray version. Does anyone else agree?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 11:35, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Arceus (Pokémon)/Archive 2

2011-02-10T02:15:03Z

Celibi25: /* Type Change */

{{Forme info|493{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|0=-Unknown|2=-Fighting|3=-Flying|4=-Poison|5=-Ground|6=-Rock|7=-Bug|8=-Ghost|9=-Steel|10=-Fire|11=-Water|12=-Grass|13=-Electric|14=-Psychic|15=-Ice|16=-Dragon|17=-Dark}}.png|{{arceustype}}|{{arceustype}}|[[Form differences#Arceus|Arceus's Formes]], as affected by its [[ability]], {{a|Multitype}}|Arceus as though it {{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1=were not holding a [[plate]]|0=has been [[cheating|hacked]]|were holding the {{DL|Plate|{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|2=Fist|3=Sky|4=Toxic|5=Earth|6=Stone|7=Insect|8=Spooky|9=Iron|10=Flame|11=Splash|12=Meadow|13=Zap|14=Mind|15=Icicle|16=Draco|17=Dread}} Plate|{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|2=Fist|3=Sky|4=Toxic|5=Earth|6=Stone|7=Insect|8=Spooky|9=Iron|10=Flame|11=Splash|12=Meadow|13=Zap|14=Mind|15=Icicle|16=Draco|17=Dread}} Plate}}}}, therefore being a{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|13|15=n}} {{type2|{{arceustype}}}} Pokémon|the type-themed color displays, the Pokéathlon stats entry shown on the page itself, the type effectiveness entry shown on the page itself, the moves noted as [[Same-type attack bonus|STAB]] for this Pokémon, the sprite shown in the evobox, the sprites shown in the spritebox, and the plate sprite shown below the spritebox|second}}
==Archives==
*[[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (discussions from October 13, 2006 – December 13, 2008)

== Hmmm.... ==

Is the color and box from the Tutoring Moveset (I think) supposed to be expanding past the sprite box? I see the Rock type stuff, if that matters. (No, I don't think it is my browser, other Pokémon's pages are still fine) [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 14:13, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:I have fixed it stop the problem was that he closed the time, not the tutor box stop[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

==Out of intrest==

Has anyone tried to see if Arceus' ??? type forme is in PBR? [[User:Zsaberslash|Zsaberslash]] 20:52, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
:And possibly in Platinum, as well? In a method other than cheating? --[[User:Bulbapedian|Bulbapedian]] - [[User talk:Bulbapedian|Talk]] 20:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

== Picture ==

Instead of fanart
...shouldn't we use something OFFICIAL
even if its just a PBR screenshot, or a sprite
--[[User:LilRed|LilRed]] 00:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
:The fanart fulfills our needs best. Besides, the official artwork is only a couple of months away now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 00:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
::If they'll release an official artwork of Arceus, does it mean that Arceus is officially released also?[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 06:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Yes, this is what it would seem like. It's predicted to be released at a similar time to the next movie. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:56, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
::::How on Earth did whoever drew that picture get it so perfect when the sprite is so tiny? They must have got something wrong surely? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 19:36, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yes, the artist, Seyanni, did get several details wrong from what we now know about the features of Arceus. First of all, the face has two lines running across it, not just one. There are grey triangles on the inside of each of its legs, and the red parts of its eyes have black slits, like Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina. In addition, the wheel is more pointed and the green circles he/she drew are actually gems. So, really, like I've said before, this fanart is far from accurate, but now there's really no need to replace it (though I've given the site several months to use my own artwork (http://xous54.deviantart.com/art/Arceus-Final-106548360), which is, of course, more accurate) when Arceus is set to be revealed on the 15th (with a leak anywhere from the 12th to the 14th). (Of course, the Pokémon set to be revealed could also be something else.) [[User:Xous|Xous]] 18:16, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

== Reveal ==

Looking at Darkrai and Shaymin's, it seems that the reveal will be just around February 14, 2009. Isn't that convenient. So I'd like to notify you all... don't bother with it until then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:52, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it is expected to be leaked today, and officially revealed on January 19.--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 13:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

:Listen to the Editor-in-Chief. Don't bother until the reveal. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 13:54, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

And TTE is right. I think he has psychic abilities. -[[User:Anangryzapdos|Anangryzapdos]] 19:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

== ???-type Explanation Doesn't Make Sense ==

One of our members brought up a good point about the explanation (in this article) about why Nintendo put the ??? Arceus in the game. We think that it was put in because Nintendo's code for Multitype required a sprite to be filled for every single type. This is our best guess, and I certainly think it's more plausible than "preventing game crashes for hackers." Hackers can crash the game quite easily otherwise - why would they prevent it in one way when we can do it in a thousand other ways? Remember, Nintendo doesn't care for or even acknowledge hackers. -[[User:Coolbho3000|Coolbho3000]] 00:33, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:Following that logic, why put a vestigial Safari Zone in GSC? Why make it harder to access MissingNo in Yellow and impossible in FrLg? Like it or not, Nintendo has put many things in for the purpose of preventing crashes. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 04:59, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
::The Safari Zone in G/S/C was there because it was originally supposed to be in there, but they decided later not to include it. And Missingno. was excluded from later games because it was a glitch that was accessible without cheats. They took it out for the same reason that they hire game testers: they want their games to be as glitch-free as possible. And it did cause crashes, but it could be accessed without cheats, unlike the ???-type Arceus. I agree with Coolbho.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 13:51, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Animated sprite. ==

It doesn't change for me. It's just the regular Arceus. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:57, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:you maam are using Internet Explorer. that is an animated .png, which your browser does not support. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:59, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::Don't you think that's a little unfair for people who prefer to user IE? What's wrong with just using a gif file? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:02, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::lesser quality. take it up with TTE. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:03, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::You should use Firefox. D: -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 01:05, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I have used it and I hated it. It made my computer move incredibly slow. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:16, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::How many addons did you give it? That's usually what kills it. I mean, mine's running using 118,784K, next most is Windows Explorer with not even 10% of that much. It's a given with the 13 extensions I have for it... Anyway, Opera's most recent release supports anipngs too, or so I've heard. Given, I plan to make ''that'' specific spritecycle a gif again, since the whole point of that is to animate. Other anipngs you don't lose much with them being not animated. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:35, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Google chrome doesn't accept anipngs, and firefox takes an age to start up for me. I also hate IE. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|f80|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|f80|Ori}}{{Colored link|User:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|08f|gami}}''' 11:28, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::: It works on opera just fine, Who uses IE nowadays anyway? And Mozilla's slow.... too slow.--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]-[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 11:52, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Anyway, I recommend you try Opera, if you haven't done so. It's light, fast, simple to use, secure, stable, complete and free so you don't have to worry. And it'll still work with Windows 98. XD Besides, it's MS's fault for not giving better support for web standards 'cause it's "cooler" to use their own. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:45, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

== ???-type arceus existance ==

If anyone can hack platinum and try changing arceus' type to ???-type and it appears then its existance is official, anybody care and try?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 12:22, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:We have the sprite. That's all the proof you need. '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 14:01, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

sorry, forgot about that. --[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 14:03, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

== origin ==

there is a legend in arab myths that says that god created a horse from the north wind and it was the frist being on earth, arceus is a horse and the first Pokémon in existance, should we add this to the origin part in the article?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:29, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:That seems more like an origin for Suicune, because of the north wind bit... Though Suicune isn't a horse. I don't know, it might be a legitimate origin.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 14:15, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Arceus reminds me of the andalites from the animorphs books except it only has two eyes and no arms or tail. However in the movie it can speak with telepathy. Did any one else notice the similarities or am I just insane?--[[User:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] 17:41, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

== ... ==

I saw this likely vandalism in the tivia section:

At level 80, Arceus is the second highest level non-glitch Pokémon available for capture. The highest is Magikarp which can be caught at level 100 in Pokémon Platinum. It is, however, still the highest level legendary Pokémon available for capture.

I am hoping this is a joke or vandalism.

[[User:Alakazam 2|Alakazam 2]]

:Check {{p|Magikarp}}'s article. It's a legit piece of trivia. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 07:04, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

==Official Art==
Here we have it, Sugimori's Art for it, taken directly from the site.
<img>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/export/sites/default/special/arcus/img/arcus_01.jpg</img>--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 02:18, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:http://i42.tinypic.com/23s8bon.png Is that acceptable? I got it from the Japanese site. I know, it's a bit small.. --×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 02:39, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::the official image is already on the page. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:49, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:::OIC. I posted the wrong image, though. Twas an anime art. D: ×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 10:33, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::::PokéBeach has cut out all of the arts, including the official art, but WPM has requested that nobody use that art.
--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 15:00, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::::: Is their any artwork for the other types, or just Normal typed Arceus?[[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 22:19, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
New artwork (actually biggest):[[Image:Arceus lg.png|thumb|200px]]--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 01:57, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

==U.S. Reveal==

Since the page is locked, can one of the mods make a note about how it has not been revealed in the U.S., and probably won't be until early next year. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:44, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
:That's Anime art. Official Art is similar to it's Platinum Sprite.--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 03:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
::What does that have to do with my post? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I'll answer. That's not necessary to say. Besides, it's speculation. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:12, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Type-change grammar ==

Due to the special coding for Multitype, if the page changes to Electric or Ice, the grammar in the article becomes incorrect, displaying as "a Electric-type" or "a Ice-type". Since I have no idea how the coding works, and the fact that the page is protected anyway, would it be possible for someone to fix that bit of grammar on the Zap and Icicle versions of the page?

A minor error, but an error nonetheless. [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 03:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks for fixing it, TTE. [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 04:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Just realized the same grammar error is on this talk page... [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 22:06, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

:Should be fixed now... [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 22:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== Typer effectiveness box for ??? type ==

Considering the the ??? type can show up at random on this page should a type effectiveness box show up for it too? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 16:23, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:I guess I could do it. I don't know the numbers though, ar all types just normal effective?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 16:27, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::??? has no strengths and weaknesses; all types are normal. Learned this from {{m|Weather Ball}} and {{m|Shadow Sky}}. [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 16:50, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Just remembered that the page is protected so I can't actually change it. LOL!--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:44, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Don't bother. One, there's no way to access ??? Arceus, so it doesn't matter, and two, the type effectiveness of anything against the ???-type is NORMAL DAMAGE. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:48, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==Arceus to be in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky!==

Hi everybody, I just got information from Serebii.net today confirming Arceus will appear in the game as well as several other things as well. So the '''In Side Games''' section you can put that Arceus will make it's Mystery Dungeon debut in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky. --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 19:00, 12 March 2009 (UTC)Dialgafan1
:Unfortunately, it only appears as a statue and can't actually be encountered or recruited.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 14:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== English Pokémon Platinum Pokédex Entry. ==

The anglish Pokémon Platinum Pokédex Entry has been confirmed as ''"It is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing, then shaped the world. "'' May someone edit the page to include this? [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 20:43, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== Talk page glitch ==

I noticed when Arceus' page is ???-Type, the message on the top of the page says "DON'T ASK WHY ARCEUS IS A NORMAL-TYPE! It just IS!", incorrectly... [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 20:48, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
:It's because it changes on the second you access the page. Since you accessed the talk page on a different second than the article, it's different. If you go on the page and wait ''exactly'' 18 seconds (or a multiple thereof) then check here it should be good.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 20:54, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== US Platinum dex entry/page unlock ==

Can someone ''please'' unlock the page so that the English ''Platinum'' Dex entry can be added? And why was it even locked in the first place? [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 12:13, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
:Because of the upcoming movie and some impatient users. --'''[[User:Prongs|Prongs]] '''([[User Talk:Prongs|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Prongs|Contributions]])''' 12:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
::I you want, you can just add the entry here so that once admins are around, they could place it in the article. '''◄[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]►''' 12:16, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Someone already posted the Dex entry above me, but I guess I'll just copypaste it: ''It is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing, then shaped the world.'' And yes, I would want an admin to put it in if it's going to remain locked until the movie's release. [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 12:19, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Done. Thanks guys for noticing this. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 21:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

== Protected ==

Why is this page protected?--[[User:Tmwps|Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales]] 10:01, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:<nowiki>*</nowiki>cough* [[Movie 12]] *cough* '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 10:26, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

== Event Moves ==

Should the Event Moves (Spacial Rend, Roar of Time, Shadow Force) be added to its moveset? It knows these at Level 100 at the Japanese event this summer. {{unsigned|JacobCrystal}}

== Should we insert the Movie Arceus event? ==

I mean, Corocoro had already revealed that there is going to be an event in HGSS unlocked by Movie Arceus where the player can choose a Level 1 Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina. I think it should be worth noting that they should mention this in this article. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 13:19, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== Name origin ==

Hey guys, an idea had just sprouted in my head. The name might also come from the latin verb ''arceo'', which roughly translates to "I watch from a distance".
/[[User:Ziemniax|Ziemniax]]
:Actually, that word means "enclose". But it could still be a name origin, since Arceus was enclosed in the Hall of Origin.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 14:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Both of you are right. if it has a long e then it means "I watch from a distane" but a short e means "enclose"--[[User:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] 17:29, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus catch Trivia ==
As a point in the trivia I think it should be mentioned that Arceus is the only trio master (as of yet and i suspect always will be) not catchable by typical in-game mechanics instead needing to obtain an item solely distributed by a Nintendo event. All others are obtainable in their original generations via typical methods (i.e. just a simple in-game event or simply trading from a complimentary version) rather than and individual physically having to go to a Nintendo event to receive an item that cannot be obtained in games. I'm sorry if this point seems to sound redundant but I'm not sure if everyone will understand what I mean. -- [[User:D558|D558]] 06:21, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
:Psh, who says you have to go outside? You can WFC the Azure Flute... eventually... presumably... likely... in the future. But yes, that's a good point. Do it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:24, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
::I dunno if the page is protected or if my ability to edit pages has been taken away but I can't add this trivia... I guess i'll have to wait until it is unprotected or someone else will have to state this fact -- [[User:D558|D558]] 18:50, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible to have playable MP3 files to get Pokemon cries? I'm getting confused as to what Arceus' sounds like, because the text box says ''Dodogyuuun!'' and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcHrs4MXuzQ this movie]] has mediocre sound graphics and sounds like a hi-pitched vibrating and '''''Ayeayeaye!''''' - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] ([[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Giratina's_Embodiment|contribs]])'' 19:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
:I think Filb.de has them. I had all the Sinnoh ones at one point, but I may have deleted them when iTunes tried to be stupid with them. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:10, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
::[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/cries/493.mp3 Have a ball.] '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:27, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus infobox at the top of this page ==

Shouldn't this be in the article instead? What is it doing here? -- [[User:Socob|Socob]] ( [[User_talk:Socob|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Socob|Contribs]] ) 13:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:TTE found them too distracting for the articles. Here it's mostly a warning not to ask why Arceus is {{arceustype}}.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 16:39, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::I see. It does seem to be kind of messed up, too. -- [[User:Socob|Socob]] ( [[User_talk:Socob|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Socob|Contribs]] ) 12:48, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS Overworld ==

Isn't that cool if the page have the HGSS overworld?, other pokemon too {{unsigned|Arceus Vs Dragon Trio}}
:These will most likely be included somehow; we just need to work out where. It's been what, a day? Give us some time to get the images first. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:37, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== Name ==

Apparently (due to the Austrailian trailer floating around the Internets) Arceus's name is pronouced ARK-eus. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 13:11, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:There are so many pronunciations out there that Bulbapedia doesn't keep track of them. In the past there have been discrepancies between the anime and the "official" books, and even between multiple episodes of the anime. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:38, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

== 1000 arms??? ==

umm... just wondering...why does the Pokédex entry say that it has 1000 arms? I was looking at it and it has four hooves, no arms? Isn't it kind of weird to say it has 1000 arms and then when you see it it has no arms (or four if you count hooves as arms)?--[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 00:16, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
:Well, Arceus could retract them. Ask on the forums, because that is where this belongs. ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 00:30, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

== Okay ==

Derp. Hey. Multiform things always have the show/hide option because their other types can be freely switched to at will. Keep it that way. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:25, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

== Special Moves ==

Okay, someone really ought to add Shadow Force, Spacial Rend and Roar of Time to the "by events" section. If no one edits it or gives me a reason not to, I will add this ----GEN1[[User:Gen1king|KING]] ''([[User talk:TALK]])'' 04:49, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
:I have added the event moves section to the page. thank you.
----GEN1[[User:Gen1king|KING]] ''([[User talk:TALK]])'' 05:24, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
::Thank you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:25, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

==Arceus HAS appeared in side games==

WiiWare Mystery Dungeon. Need I say more? [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 17:30, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
:Agreed. So where is he in the game and i will gladly add it. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 12:48, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
::Cmon. Someone must know! [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:06, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Lol. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 16:25, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Come on! Come on! [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:56, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
arceus appears as a statue in explores of sky and in the new mystery dungeion pokeexlpores for the wii[[User:ArceusLX|arceusLX leveled up!]] 00:56, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

In mystery dungeon for wiiware, Arceus appears in a Wonder Mail W mission downloadable from wifi. It takes place in either final mountain, final cave, or final island. [[User:67h5r6h|67h5r6h]] 22:06, 18 July 2010 (UTC)67h5r6h

== Another possible name origin. ==

Could its name come from {{wp|arcus cloud}}? {{unsigned|Taromon777}}
:Likely not. The current ones seem more plausible to me. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:52, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

== Movie 12 Arceus ==

If you trade the Movie 12 Arceus from an English HG to an english SS, then can the event be activated in both games?[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 00:49, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:Most likely. When they come out we'll know for sure after somebody gets that far in both games. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 02:14, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

== Side Game Data ==

It appears in the new Ranger game. Someone should add it.--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 19:04, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

== Side Game Data ==

It appears in the new Ranger game. Someone should add it.--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 19:04, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:Added ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 13:57, 5 May 2010 (UTC))

==Image==
Umm... in article it's say "art from platinum" and on the image file it's say "released in HeartGold/SoulSilver. So, it's from Platinum or from HG/SS?
:Fixed. It looks to me like no-one got around to changing the caption when the art was updated. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 18:51, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

== Magic Plate? ==

I own a Diamond and Pearl guide that tells you what to do after you beat the game, and it has a section in there about the Underground. In it, it has a list of items you can find, and in that list, they have a Magic Plate. I don't know what's going on, because nobody's mentioned it before. Perhaps it's because I got an early version of the book? [[User:Pawsrent|Pawsrent]] 18:25, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe a beta name for the Mind Plate? How many plates does it list? If it only lists 16 plates than it may be a typo/beta name for one of the existing plates. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:57, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

== Article vandalism/Error in code ==

It seems that all moveset, type and all other special coding from section Type effectiveness -> With Mind Plate up to Name Origin is either wrong or Media Wiki has some problems parsing it. --[[User:PewnyPL|PewnyPL]] 19:46, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:Do you mean something where it shows a bunch of red links, because if so, I see it to. It is also in the template size exceeded category. I think it has too many templates being used. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 19:59, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::Yup, that's what I meant. And the thing about exceeding number of templates seems possible --[[User:PewnyPL|PewnyPL]] 20:05, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Given that all those redlinks are existing templates, it seems that yes, it is due to too many templates. The main question is how to reduce that without losing information. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:17, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Well, there are two things I can think of.
::::One of them is creating a new Pokéathlon Template, that would contain all of the Plates (specially for Arceus) with would require only to use the template with stats from all of them (although I'm not sure if there is a limit to how much data you can hand over to a template)
::::The second one is to change all link-Templates (those that just generate links to other articles) to normal links to articles
::::--[[User:PewnyPL|PewnyPL]] 20:30, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

== Highest level legendary? ==

Wasn't there a level 100 event Regigigas? [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 00:19, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:The article says available for capture. You don't need to capture the Regigigas. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 00:48, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

== 13,933? ==

Excuse me if I'm wrong, but the formula (as stated [[Experience#Gain_in_battle|here]]) makes a captured Arceus give (even if the owner's Pokémon is foreign and traded) only 7,071(.428571) at level 100. 
a= 2.2 
b= 225 
L=100. 
2.2 × 225 = 495 495 × 100 = 49,500 49,500 ／ 7 = 7,071.428571. Either this page is wrong, the formula is, or I am. Thanks [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 16:46, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:You have ''b'' as 225, but it's 255. That's your error. --[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 16:52, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::I just did the math with 255 as ''b'', and by my calculations, even with a foreign language Arceus and a Lucky Egg, the total experience earned would be 12,021. That's odd. :/--[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 16:57, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I got that the first time too. Sorry, I should of used the history on my calculator. Well, which is wrong then? How do we find out? [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 12:52, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Just did the math. I am getting 13,933. I did this:
(1.7 * 1.5 * 1.5 * 255 * 100)/7

(Wining pokemon foreign traded * Opposing pokemon owned by trainer * Wining pokemon holding lucky egg * base exp * level 100)/7
[[User:Mark342|Mark342]] 21:35, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

:They have changed the formula. It didn't work before. This [[File:Exp.png]] is the previous one. The new one works. Thanks anyway, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 21:13, 27 July 2010 (UTC).

== Explorers of Sky ==

I have tried, but I can't get rid of the part on the [[template:Sidegame|Sidegame]] template that includes Explorers of Sky. It wasn't in the Game, so does anyone know how to get rid of this? It's a little misleading. Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 23:03, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

== Name origin ==

About the name origin. For me, the most simple theory is not so clearly mentioned in the current name origin section. My theory is: Arceus is just a transcription of "archeos" from latin (meaning archaich). This was confirmed with the newest trailers that pronounce "Arceus" exactly like "archeos" is pronounced. It is the most direct and simple someone can think of, it's more or less the same process used for other Pokémon name such as Luvdisc, since "luv" has the same pronountiation as "love".

== izanagi and izanami ==

If Japan and Gods is created, it seems to be worth describing to trivia. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 12:37, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

My remark on the page of the edit became interrupted. Arceus lives in the interior of Spear Pillar. There are a spear and a point of contact of the creation of the Shintoism myth. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 07:27, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:But would that not mean that Arceus would have to be two, and not one? I think Dialga and Palkia, both met at Spear Pillar itself, better represent the two, with Giratina representing what happened to Izanami after Kagu-tsuchi burned her. Arceus created the universe... Dialga and Palkia were the ones who created Spear Pillar, and from it, Sinnoh. Arceus is above them. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:49, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

::Thank you for correcting my English.
::It is said that it is izanami and izanagi that it gave birth to the gods for the first time by the myth of Shintoism. Kunitokotachi and Amenominakanushi doesn't make the gods though Kunitokotachi and Amenominakanushi is the first god. There are izanami(izanagi) and a lacking part because neither Dialga nor Palkia make "Legend pokeomn". It is guessed that the ability of izanagi and izanami that creates the gods is equipped in Arceus.
::I am satisfied with the sentence that Mr. TTEchidna corrected. It is not necessary to discuss it any further.
[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 08:33, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

== Colour Changing Articles ==

I know but it seems kind of pointless, when I fist read the article I thought you'd made a mistake calling it a Dragon-type and when I scrolled down I thought you'd lost your marbles when you were indicating pokeathlon stats for its Bug forme specifically. The Pokedex on the games treats it as a Normal-type. We don't have different coloured articles for Kecleon or Castform and they don't need to be holding special items to change forme. I think leaving it as Normal-type is most convenient and less confusing, also we have articles displaying what TMs and HMs it can learn as different types so why bother with all this. [[User:Lucky V4.0|Lucky V4.0]] 14:27, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:Its probably because Arceus has different Performance stats for its forms, its attack has different type for plate held, and because its sprite changes too. Too just list it all would make the page too long if it weren't hidden. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:32, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
::I'm not suggesting have everything listed for all types. However it would be easier to select which type you want instead of it being random each time. [[User:Lucky V4.0|Lucky V4.0]] 15:22, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:::I know. But I'm pretty sure with {{bp|wikicode}} you can't do that, unless each type had their own page. At least with the random function you have a 1/17 chance of getting the one you want. If not, then just use the show/hide function. The only difference would be the template colors. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:32, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== Type Change ==

I've ranted on this subject time and time again but isn't it misleading for someone to come across this article and for it to say that Arceus is a Ghost or Ice type (or whatever type that shows up) when Arceus is Normal-type but changes due to an item. This is no different than making Kecleon's page change types randomly because of Color Change, except for what color Arceus changes to, or listing every Pokémon with the chance of having the ability Mummy since any Pokémon except for Arceus and Shedinja can have the Mummy ability. I believe that Arceus needs to be listed as a Normal type as it naturally is when no items are held, just like how Kecleon is when it hasn't been hit by a foe's move or how a Marill is before being hit by a foe with the ability mummy. Does anyone else agree? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:37, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
:How is it misleading? The intro sentence of this artticle clearly states: "Arceus (Japanese: アルセウス Arceus) is a Normal-type legendary Pokémon. However, its type will change when it is holding one of sixteen items known as plates and can in reality be any type. " —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 21:42, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, exactly it says it's a Normal-type (Because naturally it is) while the templates might say it's a Poison-type when this isn't always the case, yeah so it's not always Normal-type either but may I remind you of Kecleon? Or maybe we can say that its type "varies", but I'd rather leave the templates as if it's a Normal-type. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:15, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
:::What's the big deal? The Kecleon example you are using... the type is not permanent after battle, hence why Porygon nor Pokémon with Camouflage is on here as well. Kecleon and Porygon... they were Normal-type prior to battle, and they are still Normal-type after battle. The difference is that Arceus's type is permanent from before battle and after battle. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:18, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Yeah, but it isn't a natural Water or Grass-type, it is a Water or Grass type only when holding their respective plates, but naturally, without the use of an item, Arceus is a Normal-type, if they came up with an item called Aqua Sponge that turned Water-types into Normal-types we wouldn't make every Water-type Pokémon's page rotate from Normal to Water, of course I know the difference is that would be affecting a lot more pages but I still think it's misleading and somewhat confusing with the Forme rotation. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 01:14, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::It changes because it's a form difference if Kecleon changed its sprite then we could do something with it.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 04:23, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::Kecleon does not actually change forms; if {{a|Color Change}} counted as changing forms, we could say that all Pokémon do due to Color Change being {{m|Skill Swap}}pable. However, Arceus does actually change forms. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:37, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Isn't that why we have this, [[File:Arceus Formes.gif]] in order to demonstrate all formes? In fact we could use something like this in the sprite template couldn't we? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 19:40, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I agree with Landfish7. This whole page changing is crazy!--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 19:47, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::I hadn't ever really looked at this page before, but I recently needed to check up on something about Arceus. I was completely baffled to see it was labled as an Electric-type. It took me nearly a minute to understand what was going on. The type changes ARE really confusing, especially for people viewing the page for the first time. [[User:Moltres93|Moltres93]] 11:44, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::I think if we HAVE to keep it like this at ''least'' put the informer on the page itself instead of the discussion.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:11, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::::P.S.We really need to start a continued section for this. Trying to count the correct number of :'s is driving me crazy!--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:14, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

== Dream art in info box ==

Yeah. It's pretty cool it changes with the type. But... every other article uses Sugimori art. And it's better looking. So... what do we do here? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:49, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
:I thought the plan was to have them alternate every so often between normal and Dream... I'd definitely keep the Normal art for now though.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 22:47, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
::It uses the game artwork when the page is on the {{type|???}}. [[Typhlosion|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon|★]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]] 22:51, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
::: I'm new, but I thought we used the artwork from the generation the pokemon is from (DP), so why is there dream world artwork? [[User:S and T|S and T]] 05:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
::::We generally use the most recent, rather than the generation they are from (except anniversaries of the generations). See {{p|Marill}} and its current use of FR/LG art. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:23, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

== Umm... ==

In The Rise of Darkrai, I think I heard Arceus' name (that giant, winged light ball thing at the end of the movie) being pronounced "Ar-see-ay". Is that worth adding to the trivia? (I would appreciate verification, as this was a long time ago that I saw the movie).--[[User:Silentzerox|Silentzerox]] 02:22, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

== "[Type]-Type Dream World art by '''Ken Sugimori'''" ==

Since when was Ken confirmed to be the one who made the dream world art? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 22:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Arceus (Pokémon)/Archive 2

2011-02-10T02:14:16Z

Celibi25: /* Type Change */

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==Archives==
*[[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (discussions from October 13, 2006 – December 13, 2008)

== Hmmm.... ==

Is the color and box from the Tutoring Moveset (I think) supposed to be expanding past the sprite box? I see the Rock type stuff, if that matters. (No, I don't think it is my browser, other Pokémon's pages are still fine) [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 14:13, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:I have fixed it stop the problem was that he closed the time, not the tutor box stop[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

==Out of intrest==

Has anyone tried to see if Arceus' ??? type forme is in PBR? [[User:Zsaberslash|Zsaberslash]] 20:52, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
:And possibly in Platinum, as well? In a method other than cheating? --[[User:Bulbapedian|Bulbapedian]] - [[User talk:Bulbapedian|Talk]] 20:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

== Picture ==

Instead of fanart
...shouldn't we use something OFFICIAL
even if its just a PBR screenshot, or a sprite
--[[User:LilRed|LilRed]] 00:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
:The fanart fulfills our needs best. Besides, the official artwork is only a couple of months away now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 00:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
::If they'll release an official artwork of Arceus, does it mean that Arceus is officially released also?[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 06:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Yes, this is what it would seem like. It's predicted to be released at a similar time to the next movie. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:56, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
::::How on Earth did whoever drew that picture get it so perfect when the sprite is so tiny? They must have got something wrong surely? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 19:36, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yes, the artist, Seyanni, did get several details wrong from what we now know about the features of Arceus. First of all, the face has two lines running across it, not just one. There are grey triangles on the inside of each of its legs, and the red parts of its eyes have black slits, like Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina. In addition, the wheel is more pointed and the green circles he/she drew are actually gems. So, really, like I've said before, this fanart is far from accurate, but now there's really no need to replace it (though I've given the site several months to use my own artwork (http://xous54.deviantart.com/art/Arceus-Final-106548360), which is, of course, more accurate) when Arceus is set to be revealed on the 15th (with a leak anywhere from the 12th to the 14th). (Of course, the Pokémon set to be revealed could also be something else.) [[User:Xous|Xous]] 18:16, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

== Reveal ==

Looking at Darkrai and Shaymin's, it seems that the reveal will be just around February 14, 2009. Isn't that convenient. So I'd like to notify you all... don't bother with it until then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:52, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it is expected to be leaked today, and officially revealed on January 19.--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 13:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

:Listen to the Editor-in-Chief. Don't bother until the reveal. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 13:54, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

And TTE is right. I think he has psychic abilities. -[[User:Anangryzapdos|Anangryzapdos]] 19:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

== ???-type Explanation Doesn't Make Sense ==

One of our members brought up a good point about the explanation (in this article) about why Nintendo put the ??? Arceus in the game. We think that it was put in because Nintendo's code for Multitype required a sprite to be filled for every single type. This is our best guess, and I certainly think it's more plausible than "preventing game crashes for hackers." Hackers can crash the game quite easily otherwise - why would they prevent it in one way when we can do it in a thousand other ways? Remember, Nintendo doesn't care for or even acknowledge hackers. -[[User:Coolbho3000|Coolbho3000]] 00:33, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:Following that logic, why put a vestigial Safari Zone in GSC? Why make it harder to access MissingNo in Yellow and impossible in FrLg? Like it or not, Nintendo has put many things in for the purpose of preventing crashes. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 04:59, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
::The Safari Zone in G/S/C was there because it was originally supposed to be in there, but they decided later not to include it. And Missingno. was excluded from later games because it was a glitch that was accessible without cheats. They took it out for the same reason that they hire game testers: they want their games to be as glitch-free as possible. And it did cause crashes, but it could be accessed without cheats, unlike the ???-type Arceus. I agree with Coolbho.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 13:51, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Animated sprite. ==

It doesn't change for me. It's just the regular Arceus. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:57, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:you maam are using Internet Explorer. that is an animated .png, which your browser does not support. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:59, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::Don't you think that's a little unfair for people who prefer to user IE? What's wrong with just using a gif file? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:02, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::lesser quality. take it up with TTE. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:03, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::You should use Firefox. D: -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 01:05, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I have used it and I hated it. It made my computer move incredibly slow. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:16, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::How many addons did you give it? That's usually what kills it. I mean, mine's running using 118,784K, next most is Windows Explorer with not even 10% of that much. It's a given with the 13 extensions I have for it... Anyway, Opera's most recent release supports anipngs too, or so I've heard. Given, I plan to make ''that'' specific spritecycle a gif again, since the whole point of that is to animate. Other anipngs you don't lose much with them being not animated. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:35, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Google chrome doesn't accept anipngs, and firefox takes an age to start up for me. I also hate IE. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|f80|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|f80|Ori}}{{Colored link|User:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|08f|gami}}''' 11:28, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::: It works on opera just fine, Who uses IE nowadays anyway? And Mozilla's slow.... too slow.--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]-[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 11:52, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Anyway, I recommend you try Opera, if you haven't done so. It's light, fast, simple to use, secure, stable, complete and free so you don't have to worry. And it'll still work with Windows 98. XD Besides, it's MS's fault for not giving better support for web standards 'cause it's "cooler" to use their own. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:45, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

== ???-type arceus existance ==

If anyone can hack platinum and try changing arceus' type to ???-type and it appears then its existance is official, anybody care and try?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 12:22, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:We have the sprite. That's all the proof you need. '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 14:01, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

sorry, forgot about that. --[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 14:03, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

== origin ==

there is a legend in arab myths that says that god created a horse from the north wind and it was the frist being on earth, arceus is a horse and the first Pokémon in existance, should we add this to the origin part in the article?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:29, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:That seems more like an origin for Suicune, because of the north wind bit... Though Suicune isn't a horse. I don't know, it might be a legitimate origin.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 14:15, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Arceus reminds me of the andalites from the animorphs books except it only has two eyes and no arms or tail. However in the movie it can speak with telepathy. Did any one else notice the similarities or am I just insane?--[[User:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] 17:41, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

== ... ==

I saw this likely vandalism in the tivia section:

At level 80, Arceus is the second highest level non-glitch Pokémon available for capture. The highest is Magikarp which can be caught at level 100 in Pokémon Platinum. It is, however, still the highest level legendary Pokémon available for capture.

I am hoping this is a joke or vandalism.

[[User:Alakazam 2|Alakazam 2]]

:Check {{p|Magikarp}}'s article. It's a legit piece of trivia. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 07:04, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

==Official Art==
Here we have it, Sugimori's Art for it, taken directly from the site.
<img>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/export/sites/default/special/arcus/img/arcus_01.jpg</img>--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 02:18, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:http://i42.tinypic.com/23s8bon.png Is that acceptable? I got it from the Japanese site. I know, it's a bit small.. --×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 02:39, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::the official image is already on the page. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:49, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:::OIC. I posted the wrong image, though. Twas an anime art. D: ×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 10:33, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::::PokéBeach has cut out all of the arts, including the official art, but WPM has requested that nobody use that art.
--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 15:00, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::::: Is their any artwork for the other types, or just Normal typed Arceus?[[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 22:19, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
New artwork (actually biggest):[[Image:Arceus lg.png|thumb|200px]]--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 01:57, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

==U.S. Reveal==

Since the page is locked, can one of the mods make a note about how it has not been revealed in the U.S., and probably won't be until early next year. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:44, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
:That's Anime art. Official Art is similar to it's Platinum Sprite.--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 03:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
::What does that have to do with my post? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I'll answer. That's not necessary to say. Besides, it's speculation. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:12, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Type-change grammar ==

Due to the special coding for Multitype, if the page changes to Electric or Ice, the grammar in the article becomes incorrect, displaying as "a Electric-type" or "a Ice-type". Since I have no idea how the coding works, and the fact that the page is protected anyway, would it be possible for someone to fix that bit of grammar on the Zap and Icicle versions of the page?

A minor error, but an error nonetheless. [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 03:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks for fixing it, TTE. [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 04:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Just realized the same grammar error is on this talk page... [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 22:06, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

:Should be fixed now... [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 22:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== Typer effectiveness box for ??? type ==

Considering the the ??? type can show up at random on this page should a type effectiveness box show up for it too? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 16:23, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:I guess I could do it. I don't know the numbers though, ar all types just normal effective?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 16:27, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::??? has no strengths and weaknesses; all types are normal. Learned this from {{m|Weather Ball}} and {{m|Shadow Sky}}. [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 16:50, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Just remembered that the page is protected so I can't actually change it. LOL!--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:44, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Don't bother. One, there's no way to access ??? Arceus, so it doesn't matter, and two, the type effectiveness of anything against the ???-type is NORMAL DAMAGE. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:48, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==Arceus to be in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky!==

Hi everybody, I just got information from Serebii.net today confirming Arceus will appear in the game as well as several other things as well. So the '''In Side Games''' section you can put that Arceus will make it's Mystery Dungeon debut in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky. --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 19:00, 12 March 2009 (UTC)Dialgafan1
:Unfortunately, it only appears as a statue and can't actually be encountered or recruited.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 14:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== English Pokémon Platinum Pokédex Entry. ==

The anglish Pokémon Platinum Pokédex Entry has been confirmed as ''"It is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing, then shaped the world. "'' May someone edit the page to include this? [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 20:43, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== Talk page glitch ==

I noticed when Arceus' page is ???-Type, the message on the top of the page says "DON'T ASK WHY ARCEUS IS A NORMAL-TYPE! It just IS!", incorrectly... [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 20:48, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
:It's because it changes on the second you access the page. Since you accessed the talk page on a different second than the article, it's different. If you go on the page and wait ''exactly'' 18 seconds (or a multiple thereof) then check here it should be good.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 20:54, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== US Platinum dex entry/page unlock ==

Can someone ''please'' unlock the page so that the English ''Platinum'' Dex entry can be added? And why was it even locked in the first place? [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 12:13, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
:Because of the upcoming movie and some impatient users. --'''[[User:Prongs|Prongs]] '''([[User Talk:Prongs|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Prongs|Contributions]])''' 12:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
::I you want, you can just add the entry here so that once admins are around, they could place it in the article. '''◄[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]►''' 12:16, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Someone already posted the Dex entry above me, but I guess I'll just copypaste it: ''It is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing, then shaped the world.'' And yes, I would want an admin to put it in if it's going to remain locked until the movie's release. [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 12:19, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Done. Thanks guys for noticing this. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 21:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

== Protected ==

Why is this page protected?--[[User:Tmwps|Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales]] 10:01, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:<nowiki>*</nowiki>cough* [[Movie 12]] *cough* '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 10:26, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

== Event Moves ==

Should the Event Moves (Spacial Rend, Roar of Time, Shadow Force) be added to its moveset? It knows these at Level 100 at the Japanese event this summer. {{unsigned|JacobCrystal}}

== Should we insert the Movie Arceus event? ==

I mean, Corocoro had already revealed that there is going to be an event in HGSS unlocked by Movie Arceus where the player can choose a Level 1 Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina. I think it should be worth noting that they should mention this in this article. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 13:19, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== Name origin ==

Hey guys, an idea had just sprouted in my head. The name might also come from the latin verb ''arceo'', which roughly translates to "I watch from a distance".
/[[User:Ziemniax|Ziemniax]]
:Actually, that word means "enclose". But it could still be a name origin, since Arceus was enclosed in the Hall of Origin.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 14:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Both of you are right. if it has a long e then it means "I watch from a distane" but a short e means "enclose"--[[User:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] 17:29, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus catch Trivia ==
As a point in the trivia I think it should be mentioned that Arceus is the only trio master (as of yet and i suspect always will be) not catchable by typical in-game mechanics instead needing to obtain an item solely distributed by a Nintendo event. All others are obtainable in their original generations via typical methods (i.e. just a simple in-game event or simply trading from a complimentary version) rather than and individual physically having to go to a Nintendo event to receive an item that cannot be obtained in games. I'm sorry if this point seems to sound redundant but I'm not sure if everyone will understand what I mean. -- [[User:D558|D558]] 06:21, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
:Psh, who says you have to go outside? You can WFC the Azure Flute... eventually... presumably... likely... in the future. But yes, that's a good point. Do it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:24, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
::I dunno if the page is protected or if my ability to edit pages has been taken away but I can't add this trivia... I guess i'll have to wait until it is unprotected or someone else will have to state this fact -- [[User:D558|D558]] 18:50, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible to have playable MP3 files to get Pokemon cries? I'm getting confused as to what Arceus' sounds like, because the text box says ''Dodogyuuun!'' and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcHrs4MXuzQ this movie]] has mediocre sound graphics and sounds like a hi-pitched vibrating and '''''Ayeayeaye!''''' - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] ([[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Giratina's_Embodiment|contribs]])'' 19:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
:I think Filb.de has them. I had all the Sinnoh ones at one point, but I may have deleted them when iTunes tried to be stupid with them. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:10, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
::[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/cries/493.mp3 Have a ball.] '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:27, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus infobox at the top of this page ==

Shouldn't this be in the article instead? What is it doing here? -- [[User:Socob|Socob]] ( [[User_talk:Socob|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Socob|Contribs]] ) 13:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:TTE found them too distracting for the articles. Here it's mostly a warning not to ask why Arceus is {{arceustype}}.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 16:39, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::I see. It does seem to be kind of messed up, too. -- [[User:Socob|Socob]] ( [[User_talk:Socob|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Socob|Contribs]] ) 12:48, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS Overworld ==

Isn't that cool if the page have the HGSS overworld?, other pokemon too {{unsigned|Arceus Vs Dragon Trio}}
:These will most likely be included somehow; we just need to work out where. It's been what, a day? Give us some time to get the images first. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:37, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== Name ==

Apparently (due to the Austrailian trailer floating around the Internets) Arceus's name is pronouced ARK-eus. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 13:11, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:There are so many pronunciations out there that Bulbapedia doesn't keep track of them. In the past there have been discrepancies between the anime and the "official" books, and even between multiple episodes of the anime. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:38, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

== 1000 arms??? ==

umm... just wondering...why does the Pokédex entry say that it has 1000 arms? I was looking at it and it has four hooves, no arms? Isn't it kind of weird to say it has 1000 arms and then when you see it it has no arms (or four if you count hooves as arms)?--[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 00:16, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
:Well, Arceus could retract them. Ask on the forums, because that is where this belongs. ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 00:30, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

== Okay ==

Derp. Hey. Multiform things always have the show/hide option because their other types can be freely switched to at will. Keep it that way. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:25, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

== Special Moves ==

Okay, someone really ought to add Shadow Force, Spacial Rend and Roar of Time to the "by events" section. If no one edits it or gives me a reason not to, I will add this ----GEN1[[User:Gen1king|KING]] ''([[User talk:TALK]])'' 04:49, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
:I have added the event moves section to the page. thank you.
----GEN1[[User:Gen1king|KING]] ''([[User talk:TALK]])'' 05:24, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
::Thank you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:25, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

==Arceus HAS appeared in side games==

WiiWare Mystery Dungeon. Need I say more? [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 17:30, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
:Agreed. So where is he in the game and i will gladly add it. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 12:48, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
::Cmon. Someone must know! [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:06, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Lol. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 16:25, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Come on! Come on! [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:56, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
arceus appears as a statue in explores of sky and in the new mystery dungeion pokeexlpores for the wii[[User:ArceusLX|arceusLX leveled up!]] 00:56, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

In mystery dungeon for wiiware, Arceus appears in a Wonder Mail W mission downloadable from wifi. It takes place in either final mountain, final cave, or final island. [[User:67h5r6h|67h5r6h]] 22:06, 18 July 2010 (UTC)67h5r6h

== Another possible name origin. ==

Could its name come from {{wp|arcus cloud}}? {{unsigned|Taromon777}}
:Likely not. The current ones seem more plausible to me. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:52, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

== Movie 12 Arceus ==

If you trade the Movie 12 Arceus from an English HG to an english SS, then can the event be activated in both games?[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 00:49, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:Most likely. When they come out we'll know for sure after somebody gets that far in both games. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 02:14, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

== Side Game Data ==

It appears in the new Ranger game. Someone should add it.--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 19:04, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

== Side Game Data ==

It appears in the new Ranger game. Someone should add it.--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 19:04, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:Added ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 13:57, 5 May 2010 (UTC))

==Image==
Umm... in article it's say "art from platinum" and on the image file it's say "released in HeartGold/SoulSilver. So, it's from Platinum or from HG/SS?
:Fixed. It looks to me like no-one got around to changing the caption when the art was updated. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 18:51, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

== Magic Plate? ==

I own a Diamond and Pearl guide that tells you what to do after you beat the game, and it has a section in there about the Underground. In it, it has a list of items you can find, and in that list, they have a Magic Plate. I don't know what's going on, because nobody's mentioned it before. Perhaps it's because I got an early version of the book? [[User:Pawsrent|Pawsrent]] 18:25, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe a beta name for the Mind Plate? How many plates does it list? If it only lists 16 plates than it may be a typo/beta name for one of the existing plates. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:57, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

== Article vandalism/Error in code ==

It seems that all moveset, type and all other special coding from section Type effectiveness -> With Mind Plate up to Name Origin is either wrong or Media Wiki has some problems parsing it. --[[User:PewnyPL|PewnyPL]] 19:46, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:Do you mean something where it shows a bunch of red links, because if so, I see it to. It is also in the template size exceeded category. I think it has too many templates being used. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 19:59, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::Yup, that's what I meant. And the thing about exceeding number of templates seems possible --[[User:PewnyPL|PewnyPL]] 20:05, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Given that all those redlinks are existing templates, it seems that yes, it is due to too many templates. The main question is how to reduce that without losing information. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:17, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Well, there are two things I can think of.
::::One of them is creating a new Pokéathlon Template, that would contain all of the Plates (specially for Arceus) with would require only to use the template with stats from all of them (although I'm not sure if there is a limit to how much data you can hand over to a template)
::::The second one is to change all link-Templates (those that just generate links to other articles) to normal links to articles
::::--[[User:PewnyPL|PewnyPL]] 20:30, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

== Highest level legendary? ==

Wasn't there a level 100 event Regigigas? [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 00:19, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:The article says available for capture. You don't need to capture the Regigigas. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 00:48, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

== 13,933? ==

Excuse me if I'm wrong, but the formula (as stated [[Experience#Gain_in_battle|here]]) makes a captured Arceus give (even if the owner's Pokémon is foreign and traded) only 7,071(.428571) at level 100. 
a= 2.2 
b= 225 
L=100. 
2.2 × 225 = 495 495 × 100 = 49,500 49,500 ／ 7 = 7,071.428571. Either this page is wrong, the formula is, or I am. Thanks [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 16:46, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:You have ''b'' as 225, but it's 255. That's your error. --[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 16:52, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::I just did the math with 255 as ''b'', and by my calculations, even with a foreign language Arceus and a Lucky Egg, the total experience earned would be 12,021. That's odd. :/--[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 16:57, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I got that the first time too. Sorry, I should of used the history on my calculator. Well, which is wrong then? How do we find out? [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 12:52, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Just did the math. I am getting 13,933. I did this:
(1.7 * 1.5 * 1.5 * 255 * 100)/7

(Wining pokemon foreign traded * Opposing pokemon owned by trainer * Wining pokemon holding lucky egg * base exp * level 100)/7
[[User:Mark342|Mark342]] 21:35, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

:They have changed the formula. It didn't work before. This [[File:Exp.png]] is the previous one. The new one works. Thanks anyway, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 21:13, 27 July 2010 (UTC).

== Explorers of Sky ==

I have tried, but I can't get rid of the part on the [[template:Sidegame|Sidegame]] template that includes Explorers of Sky. It wasn't in the Game, so does anyone know how to get rid of this? It's a little misleading. Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 23:03, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

== Name origin ==

About the name origin. For me, the most simple theory is not so clearly mentioned in the current name origin section. My theory is: Arceus is just a transcription of "archeos" from latin (meaning archaich). This was confirmed with the newest trailers that pronounce "Arceus" exactly like "archeos" is pronounced. It is the most direct and simple someone can think of, it's more or less the same process used for other Pokémon name such as Luvdisc, since "luv" has the same pronountiation as "love".

== izanagi and izanami ==

If Japan and Gods is created, it seems to be worth describing to trivia. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 12:37, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

My remark on the page of the edit became interrupted. Arceus lives in the interior of Spear Pillar. There are a spear and a point of contact of the creation of the Shintoism myth. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 07:27, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:But would that not mean that Arceus would have to be two, and not one? I think Dialga and Palkia, both met at Spear Pillar itself, better represent the two, with Giratina representing what happened to Izanami after Kagu-tsuchi burned her. Arceus created the universe... Dialga and Palkia were the ones who created Spear Pillar, and from it, Sinnoh. Arceus is above them. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:49, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

::Thank you for correcting my English.
::It is said that it is izanami and izanagi that it gave birth to the gods for the first time by the myth of Shintoism. Kunitokotachi and Amenominakanushi doesn't make the gods though Kunitokotachi and Amenominakanushi is the first god. There are izanami(izanagi) and a lacking part because neither Dialga nor Palkia make "Legend pokeomn". It is guessed that the ability of izanagi and izanami that creates the gods is equipped in Arceus.
::I am satisfied with the sentence that Mr. TTEchidna corrected. It is not necessary to discuss it any further.
[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 08:33, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

== Colour Changing Articles ==

I know but it seems kind of pointless, when I fist read the article I thought you'd made a mistake calling it a Dragon-type and when I scrolled down I thought you'd lost your marbles when you were indicating pokeathlon stats for its Bug forme specifically. The Pokedex on the games treats it as a Normal-type. We don't have different coloured articles for Kecleon or Castform and they don't need to be holding special items to change forme. I think leaving it as Normal-type is most convenient and less confusing, also we have articles displaying what TMs and HMs it can learn as different types so why bother with all this. [[User:Lucky V4.0|Lucky V4.0]] 14:27, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:Its probably because Arceus has different Performance stats for its forms, its attack has different type for plate held, and because its sprite changes too. Too just list it all would make the page too long if it weren't hidden. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:32, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
::I'm not suggesting have everything listed for all types. However it would be easier to select which type you want instead of it being random each time. [[User:Lucky V4.0|Lucky V4.0]] 15:22, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:::I know. But I'm pretty sure with {{bp|wikicode}} you can't do that, unless each type had their own page. At least with the random function you have a 1/17 chance of getting the one you want. If not, then just use the show/hide function. The only difference would be the template colors. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:32, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== Type Change ==

I've ranted on this subject time and time again but isn't it misleading for someone to come across this article and for it to say that Arceus is a Ghost or Ice type (or whatever type that shows up) when Arceus is Normal-type but changes due to an item. This is no different than making Kecleon's page change types randomly because of Color Change, except for what color Arceus changes to, or listing every Pokémon with the chance of having the ability Mummy since any Pokémon except for Arceus and Shedinja can have the Mummy ability. I believe that Arceus needs to be listed as a Normal type as it naturally is when no items are held, just like how Kecleon is when it hasn't been hit by a foe's move or how a Marill is before being hit by a foe with the ability mummy. Does anyone else agree? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:37, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
:How is it misleading? The intro sentence of this artticle clearly states: "Arceus (Japanese: アルセウス Arceus) is a Normal-type legendary Pokémon. However, its type will change when it is holding one of sixteen items known as plates and can in reality be any type. " —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 21:42, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, exactly it says it's a Normal-type (Because naturally it is) while the templates might say it's a Poison-type when this isn't always the case, yeah so it's not always Normal-type either but may I remind you of Kecleon? Or maybe we can say that its type "varies", but I'd rather leave the templates as if it's a Normal-type. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:15, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
:::What's the big deal? The Kecleon example you are using... the type is not permanent after battle, hence why Porygon nor Pokémon with Camouflage is on here as well. Kecleon and Porygon... they were Normal-type prior to battle, and they are still Normal-type after battle. The difference is that Arceus's type is permanent from before battle and after battle. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:18, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Yeah, but it isn't a natural Water or Grass-type, it is a Water or Grass type only when holding their respective plates, but naturally, without the use of an item, Arceus is a Normal-type, if they came up with an item called Aqua Sponge that turned Water-types into Normal-types we wouldn't make every Water-type Pokémon's page rotate from Normal to Water, of course I know the difference is that would be affecting a lot more pages but I still think it's misleading and somewhat confusing with the Forme rotation. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 01:14, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::It changes because it's a form difference if Kecleon changed its sprite then we could do something with it.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 04:23, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::Kecleon does not actually change forms; if {{a|Color Change}} counted as changing forms, we could say that all Pokémon do due to Color Change being {{m|Skill Swap}}pable. However, Arceus does actually change forms. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:37, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Isn't that why we have this, [[File:Arceus Formes.gif]] in order to demonstrate all formes? In fact we could use something like this in the sprite template couldn't we? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 19:40, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I agree with Landfish7. This whole page changing is crazy!--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 19:47, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::I hadn't ever really looked at this page before, but I recently needed to check up on something about Arceus. I was completely baffled to see it was labled as an Electric-type. It took me nearly a minute to understand what was going on. The type changes ARE really confusing, especially for people viewing the page for the first time. [[User:Moltres93|Moltres93]] 11:44, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::I think if we HAVE to keep it like this at ''least'' put the informer on the page itself instead of the discussion.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:11, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::::P.S.We really need to start a continued talk page. Trying to count the correct number of :'s is driving me crazy!--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:14, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

== Dream art in info box ==

Yeah. It's pretty cool it changes with the type. But... every other article uses Sugimori art. And it's better looking. So... what do we do here? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:49, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
:I thought the plan was to have them alternate every so often between normal and Dream... I'd definitely keep the Normal art for now though.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 22:47, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
::It uses the game artwork when the page is on the {{type|???}}. [[Typhlosion|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon|★]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]] 22:51, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
::: I'm new, but I thought we used the artwork from the generation the pokemon is from (DP), so why is there dream world artwork? [[User:S and T|S and T]] 05:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
::::We generally use the most recent, rather than the generation they are from (except anniversaries of the generations). See {{p|Marill}} and its current use of FR/LG art. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:23, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

== Umm... ==

In The Rise of Darkrai, I think I heard Arceus' name (that giant, winged light ball thing at the end of the movie) being pronounced "Ar-see-ay". Is that worth adding to the trivia? (I would appreciate verification, as this was a long time ago that I saw the movie).--[[User:Silentzerox|Silentzerox]] 02:22, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

== "[Type]-Type Dream World art by '''Ken Sugimori'''" ==

Since when was Ken confirmed to be the one who made the dream world art? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 22:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Arceus (Pokémon)/Archive 2

2011-02-10T02:11:44Z

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==Archives==
*[[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (discussions from October 13, 2006 – December 13, 2008)

== Hmmm.... ==

Is the color and box from the Tutoring Moveset (I think) supposed to be expanding past the sprite box? I see the Rock type stuff, if that matters. (No, I don't think it is my browser, other Pokémon's pages are still fine) [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 14:13, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:I have fixed it stop the problem was that he closed the time, not the tutor box stop[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

==Out of intrest==

Has anyone tried to see if Arceus' ??? type forme is in PBR? [[User:Zsaberslash|Zsaberslash]] 20:52, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
:And possibly in Platinum, as well? In a method other than cheating? --[[User:Bulbapedian|Bulbapedian]] - [[User talk:Bulbapedian|Talk]] 20:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

== Picture ==

Instead of fanart
...shouldn't we use something OFFICIAL
even if its just a PBR screenshot, or a sprite
--[[User:LilRed|LilRed]] 00:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
:The fanart fulfills our needs best. Besides, the official artwork is only a couple of months away now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 00:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
::If they'll release an official artwork of Arceus, does it mean that Arceus is officially released also?[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 06:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Yes, this is what it would seem like. It's predicted to be released at a similar time to the next movie. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:56, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
::::How on Earth did whoever drew that picture get it so perfect when the sprite is so tiny? They must have got something wrong surely? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 19:36, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yes, the artist, Seyanni, did get several details wrong from what we now know about the features of Arceus. First of all, the face has two lines running across it, not just one. There are grey triangles on the inside of each of its legs, and the red parts of its eyes have black slits, like Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina. In addition, the wheel is more pointed and the green circles he/she drew are actually gems. So, really, like I've said before, this fanart is far from accurate, but now there's really no need to replace it (though I've given the site several months to use my own artwork (http://xous54.deviantart.com/art/Arceus-Final-106548360), which is, of course, more accurate) when Arceus is set to be revealed on the 15th (with a leak anywhere from the 12th to the 14th). (Of course, the Pokémon set to be revealed could also be something else.) [[User:Xous|Xous]] 18:16, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

== Reveal ==

Looking at Darkrai and Shaymin's, it seems that the reveal will be just around February 14, 2009. Isn't that convenient. So I'd like to notify you all... don't bother with it until then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:52, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it is expected to be leaked today, and officially revealed on January 19.--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 13:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

:Listen to the Editor-in-Chief. Don't bother until the reveal. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 13:54, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

And TTE is right. I think he has psychic abilities. -[[User:Anangryzapdos|Anangryzapdos]] 19:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

== ???-type Explanation Doesn't Make Sense ==

One of our members brought up a good point about the explanation (in this article) about why Nintendo put the ??? Arceus in the game. We think that it was put in because Nintendo's code for Multitype required a sprite to be filled for every single type. This is our best guess, and I certainly think it's more plausible than "preventing game crashes for hackers." Hackers can crash the game quite easily otherwise - why would they prevent it in one way when we can do it in a thousand other ways? Remember, Nintendo doesn't care for or even acknowledge hackers. -[[User:Coolbho3000|Coolbho3000]] 00:33, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:Following that logic, why put a vestigial Safari Zone in GSC? Why make it harder to access MissingNo in Yellow and impossible in FrLg? Like it or not, Nintendo has put many things in for the purpose of preventing crashes. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 04:59, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
::The Safari Zone in G/S/C was there because it was originally supposed to be in there, but they decided later not to include it. And Missingno. was excluded from later games because it was a glitch that was accessible without cheats. They took it out for the same reason that they hire game testers: they want their games to be as glitch-free as possible. And it did cause crashes, but it could be accessed without cheats, unlike the ???-type Arceus. I agree with Coolbho.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 13:51, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Animated sprite. ==

It doesn't change for me. It's just the regular Arceus. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:57, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:you maam are using Internet Explorer. that is an animated .png, which your browser does not support. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:59, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::Don't you think that's a little unfair for people who prefer to user IE? What's wrong with just using a gif file? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:02, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::lesser quality. take it up with TTE. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:03, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::You should use Firefox. D: -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 01:05, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I have used it and I hated it. It made my computer move incredibly slow. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:16, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::How many addons did you give it? That's usually what kills it. I mean, mine's running using 118,784K, next most is Windows Explorer with not even 10% of that much. It's a given with the 13 extensions I have for it... Anyway, Opera's most recent release supports anipngs too, or so I've heard. Given, I plan to make ''that'' specific spritecycle a gif again, since the whole point of that is to animate. Other anipngs you don't lose much with them being not animated. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:35, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Google chrome doesn't accept anipngs, and firefox takes an age to start up for me. I also hate IE. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|f80|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|f80|Ori}}{{Colored link|User:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|08f|gami}}''' 11:28, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::: It works on opera just fine, Who uses IE nowadays anyway? And Mozilla's slow.... too slow.--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]-[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 11:52, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Anyway, I recommend you try Opera, if you haven't done so. It's light, fast, simple to use, secure, stable, complete and free so you don't have to worry. And it'll still work with Windows 98. XD Besides, it's MS's fault for not giving better support for web standards 'cause it's "cooler" to use their own. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:45, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

== ???-type arceus existance ==

If anyone can hack platinum and try changing arceus' type to ???-type and it appears then its existance is official, anybody care and try?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 12:22, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:We have the sprite. That's all the proof you need. '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 14:01, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

sorry, forgot about that. --[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 14:03, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

== origin ==

there is a legend in arab myths that says that god created a horse from the north wind and it was the frist being on earth, arceus is a horse and the first Pokémon in existance, should we add this to the origin part in the article?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:29, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:That seems more like an origin for Suicune, because of the north wind bit... Though Suicune isn't a horse. I don't know, it might be a legitimate origin.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 14:15, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Arceus reminds me of the andalites from the animorphs books except it only has two eyes and no arms or tail. However in the movie it can speak with telepathy. Did any one else notice the similarities or am I just insane?--[[User:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] 17:41, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

== ... ==

I saw this likely vandalism in the tivia section:

At level 80, Arceus is the second highest level non-glitch Pokémon available for capture. The highest is Magikarp which can be caught at level 100 in Pokémon Platinum. It is, however, still the highest level legendary Pokémon available for capture.

I am hoping this is a joke or vandalism.

[[User:Alakazam 2|Alakazam 2]]

:Check {{p|Magikarp}}'s article. It's a legit piece of trivia. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 07:04, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

==Official Art==
Here we have it, Sugimori's Art for it, taken directly from the site.
<img>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/export/sites/default/special/arcus/img/arcus_01.jpg</img>--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 02:18, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:http://i42.tinypic.com/23s8bon.png Is that acceptable? I got it from the Japanese site. I know, it's a bit small.. --×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 02:39, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::the official image is already on the page. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:49, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:::OIC. I posted the wrong image, though. Twas an anime art. D: ×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 10:33, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::::PokéBeach has cut out all of the arts, including the official art, but WPM has requested that nobody use that art.
--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 15:00, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::::: Is their any artwork for the other types, or just Normal typed Arceus?[[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 22:19, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
New artwork (actually biggest):[[Image:Arceus lg.png|thumb|200px]]--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 01:57, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

==U.S. Reveal==

Since the page is locked, can one of the mods make a note about how it has not been revealed in the U.S., and probably won't be until early next year. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:44, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
:That's Anime art. Official Art is similar to it's Platinum Sprite.--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 03:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
::What does that have to do with my post? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I'll answer. That's not necessary to say. Besides, it's speculation. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:12, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Type-change grammar ==

Due to the special coding for Multitype, if the page changes to Electric or Ice, the grammar in the article becomes incorrect, displaying as "a Electric-type" or "a Ice-type". Since I have no idea how the coding works, and the fact that the page is protected anyway, would it be possible for someone to fix that bit of grammar on the Zap and Icicle versions of the page?

A minor error, but an error nonetheless. [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 03:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks for fixing it, TTE. [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 04:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Just realized the same grammar error is on this talk page... [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 22:06, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

:Should be fixed now... [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 22:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== Typer effectiveness box for ??? type ==

Considering the the ??? type can show up at random on this page should a type effectiveness box show up for it too? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 16:23, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:I guess I could do it. I don't know the numbers though, ar all types just normal effective?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 16:27, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::??? has no strengths and weaknesses; all types are normal. Learned this from {{m|Weather Ball}} and {{m|Shadow Sky}}. [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 16:50, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Just remembered that the page is protected so I can't actually change it. LOL!--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:44, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Don't bother. One, there's no way to access ??? Arceus, so it doesn't matter, and two, the type effectiveness of anything against the ???-type is NORMAL DAMAGE. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:48, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==Arceus to be in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky!==

Hi everybody, I just got information from Serebii.net today confirming Arceus will appear in the game as well as several other things as well. So the '''In Side Games''' section you can put that Arceus will make it's Mystery Dungeon debut in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky. --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 19:00, 12 March 2009 (UTC)Dialgafan1
:Unfortunately, it only appears as a statue and can't actually be encountered or recruited.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 14:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== English Pokémon Platinum Pokédex Entry. ==

The anglish Pokémon Platinum Pokédex Entry has been confirmed as ''"It is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing, then shaped the world. "'' May someone edit the page to include this? [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 20:43, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== Talk page glitch ==

I noticed when Arceus' page is ???-Type, the message on the top of the page says "DON'T ASK WHY ARCEUS IS A NORMAL-TYPE! It just IS!", incorrectly... [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 20:48, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
:It's because it changes on the second you access the page. Since you accessed the talk page on a different second than the article, it's different. If you go on the page and wait ''exactly'' 18 seconds (or a multiple thereof) then check here it should be good.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 20:54, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== US Platinum dex entry/page unlock ==

Can someone ''please'' unlock the page so that the English ''Platinum'' Dex entry can be added? And why was it even locked in the first place? [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 12:13, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
:Because of the upcoming movie and some impatient users. --'''[[User:Prongs|Prongs]] '''([[User Talk:Prongs|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Prongs|Contributions]])''' 12:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
::I you want, you can just add the entry here so that once admins are around, they could place it in the article. '''◄[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]►''' 12:16, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Someone already posted the Dex entry above me, but I guess I'll just copypaste it: ''It is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing, then shaped the world.'' And yes, I would want an admin to put it in if it's going to remain locked until the movie's release. [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 12:19, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Done. Thanks guys for noticing this. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 21:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

== Protected ==

Why is this page protected?--[[User:Tmwps|Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales]] 10:01, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:<nowiki>*</nowiki>cough* [[Movie 12]] *cough* '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 10:26, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

== Event Moves ==

Should the Event Moves (Spacial Rend, Roar of Time, Shadow Force) be added to its moveset? It knows these at Level 100 at the Japanese event this summer. {{unsigned|JacobCrystal}}

== Should we insert the Movie Arceus event? ==

I mean, Corocoro had already revealed that there is going to be an event in HGSS unlocked by Movie Arceus where the player can choose a Level 1 Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina. I think it should be worth noting that they should mention this in this article. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 13:19, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== Name origin ==

Hey guys, an idea had just sprouted in my head. The name might also come from the latin verb ''arceo'', which roughly translates to "I watch from a distance".
/[[User:Ziemniax|Ziemniax]]
:Actually, that word means "enclose". But it could still be a name origin, since Arceus was enclosed in the Hall of Origin.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 14:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Both of you are right. if it has a long e then it means "I watch from a distane" but a short e means "enclose"--[[User:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] 17:29, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus catch Trivia ==
As a point in the trivia I think it should be mentioned that Arceus is the only trio master (as of yet and i suspect always will be) not catchable by typical in-game mechanics instead needing to obtain an item solely distributed by a Nintendo event. All others are obtainable in their original generations via typical methods (i.e. just a simple in-game event or simply trading from a complimentary version) rather than and individual physically having to go to a Nintendo event to receive an item that cannot be obtained in games. I'm sorry if this point seems to sound redundant but I'm not sure if everyone will understand what I mean. -- [[User:D558|D558]] 06:21, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
:Psh, who says you have to go outside? You can WFC the Azure Flute... eventually... presumably... likely... in the future. But yes, that's a good point. Do it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:24, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
::I dunno if the page is protected or if my ability to edit pages has been taken away but I can't add this trivia... I guess i'll have to wait until it is unprotected or someone else will have to state this fact -- [[User:D558|D558]] 18:50, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible to have playable MP3 files to get Pokemon cries? I'm getting confused as to what Arceus' sounds like, because the text box says ''Dodogyuuun!'' and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcHrs4MXuzQ this movie]] has mediocre sound graphics and sounds like a hi-pitched vibrating and '''''Ayeayeaye!''''' - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] ([[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Giratina's_Embodiment|contribs]])'' 19:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
:I think Filb.de has them. I had all the Sinnoh ones at one point, but I may have deleted them when iTunes tried to be stupid with them. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:10, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
::[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/cries/493.mp3 Have a ball.] '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:27, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus infobox at the top of this page ==

Shouldn't this be in the article instead? What is it doing here? -- [[User:Socob|Socob]] ( [[User_talk:Socob|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Socob|Contribs]] ) 13:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:TTE found them too distracting for the articles. Here it's mostly a warning not to ask why Arceus is {{arceustype}}.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 16:39, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::I see. It does seem to be kind of messed up, too. -- [[User:Socob|Socob]] ( [[User_talk:Socob|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Socob|Contribs]] ) 12:48, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS Overworld ==

Isn't that cool if the page have the HGSS overworld?, other pokemon too {{unsigned|Arceus Vs Dragon Trio}}
:These will most likely be included somehow; we just need to work out where. It's been what, a day? Give us some time to get the images first. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:37, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== Name ==

Apparently (due to the Austrailian trailer floating around the Internets) Arceus's name is pronouced ARK-eus. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 13:11, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:There are so many pronunciations out there that Bulbapedia doesn't keep track of them. In the past there have been discrepancies between the anime and the "official" books, and even between multiple episodes of the anime. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:38, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

== 1000 arms??? ==

umm... just wondering...why does the Pokédex entry say that it has 1000 arms? I was looking at it and it has four hooves, no arms? Isn't it kind of weird to say it has 1000 arms and then when you see it it has no arms (or four if you count hooves as arms)?--[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 00:16, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
:Well, Arceus could retract them. Ask on the forums, because that is where this belongs. ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 00:30, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

== Okay ==

Derp. Hey. Multiform things always have the show/hide option because their other types can be freely switched to at will. Keep it that way. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:25, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

== Special Moves ==

Okay, someone really ought to add Shadow Force, Spacial Rend and Roar of Time to the "by events" section. If no one edits it or gives me a reason not to, I will add this ----GEN1[[User:Gen1king|KING]] ''([[User talk:TALK]])'' 04:49, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
:I have added the event moves section to the page. thank you.
----GEN1[[User:Gen1king|KING]] ''([[User talk:TALK]])'' 05:24, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
::Thank you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:25, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

==Arceus HAS appeared in side games==

WiiWare Mystery Dungeon. Need I say more? [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 17:30, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
:Agreed. So where is he in the game and i will gladly add it. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 12:48, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
::Cmon. Someone must know! [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:06, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Lol. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 16:25, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Come on! Come on! [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:56, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
arceus appears as a statue in explores of sky and in the new mystery dungeion pokeexlpores for the wii[[User:ArceusLX|arceusLX leveled up!]] 00:56, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

In mystery dungeon for wiiware, Arceus appears in a Wonder Mail W mission downloadable from wifi. It takes place in either final mountain, final cave, or final island. [[User:67h5r6h|67h5r6h]] 22:06, 18 July 2010 (UTC)67h5r6h

== Another possible name origin. ==

Could its name come from {{wp|arcus cloud}}? {{unsigned|Taromon777}}
:Likely not. The current ones seem more plausible to me. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:52, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

== Movie 12 Arceus ==

If you trade the Movie 12 Arceus from an English HG to an english SS, then can the event be activated in both games?[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 00:49, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:Most likely. When they come out we'll know for sure after somebody gets that far in both games. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 02:14, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

== Side Game Data ==

It appears in the new Ranger game. Someone should add it.--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 19:04, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

== Side Game Data ==

It appears in the new Ranger game. Someone should add it.--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 19:04, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:Added ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 13:57, 5 May 2010 (UTC))

==Image==
Umm... in article it's say "art from platinum" and on the image file it's say "released in HeartGold/SoulSilver. So, it's from Platinum or from HG/SS?
:Fixed. It looks to me like no-one got around to changing the caption when the art was updated. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 18:51, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

== Magic Plate? ==

I own a Diamond and Pearl guide that tells you what to do after you beat the game, and it has a section in there about the Underground. In it, it has a list of items you can find, and in that list, they have a Magic Plate. I don't know what's going on, because nobody's mentioned it before. Perhaps it's because I got an early version of the book? [[User:Pawsrent|Pawsrent]] 18:25, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe a beta name for the Mind Plate? How many plates does it list? If it only lists 16 plates than it may be a typo/beta name for one of the existing plates. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:57, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

== Article vandalism/Error in code ==

It seems that all moveset, type and all other special coding from section Type effectiveness -> With Mind Plate up to Name Origin is either wrong or Media Wiki has some problems parsing it. --[[User:PewnyPL|PewnyPL]] 19:46, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:Do you mean something where it shows a bunch of red links, because if so, I see it to. It is also in the template size exceeded category. I think it has too many templates being used. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 19:59, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::Yup, that's what I meant. And the thing about exceeding number of templates seems possible --[[User:PewnyPL|PewnyPL]] 20:05, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Given that all those redlinks are existing templates, it seems that yes, it is due to too many templates. The main question is how to reduce that without losing information. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:17, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Well, there are two things I can think of.
::::One of them is creating a new Pokéathlon Template, that would contain all of the Plates (specially for Arceus) with would require only to use the template with stats from all of them (although I'm not sure if there is a limit to how much data you can hand over to a template)
::::The second one is to change all link-Templates (those that just generate links to other articles) to normal links to articles
::::--[[User:PewnyPL|PewnyPL]] 20:30, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

== Highest level legendary? ==

Wasn't there a level 100 event Regigigas? [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 00:19, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:The article says available for capture. You don't need to capture the Regigigas. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 00:48, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

== 13,933? ==

Excuse me if I'm wrong, but the formula (as stated [[Experience#Gain_in_battle|here]]) makes a captured Arceus give (even if the owner's Pokémon is foreign and traded) only 7,071(.428571) at level 100. 
a= 2.2 
b= 225 
L=100. 
2.2 × 225 = 495 495 × 100 = 49,500 49,500 ／ 7 = 7,071.428571. Either this page is wrong, the formula is, or I am. Thanks [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 16:46, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:You have ''b'' as 225, but it's 255. That's your error. --[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 16:52, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::I just did the math with 255 as ''b'', and by my calculations, even with a foreign language Arceus and a Lucky Egg, the total experience earned would be 12,021. That's odd. :/--[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 16:57, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I got that the first time too. Sorry, I should of used the history on my calculator. Well, which is wrong then? How do we find out? [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 12:52, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Just did the math. I am getting 13,933. I did this:
(1.7 * 1.5 * 1.5 * 255 * 100)/7

(Wining pokemon foreign traded * Opposing pokemon owned by trainer * Wining pokemon holding lucky egg * base exp * level 100)/7
[[User:Mark342|Mark342]] 21:35, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

:They have changed the formula. It didn't work before. This [[File:Exp.png]] is the previous one. The new one works. Thanks anyway, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 21:13, 27 July 2010 (UTC).

== Explorers of Sky ==

I have tried, but I can't get rid of the part on the [[template:Sidegame|Sidegame]] template that includes Explorers of Sky. It wasn't in the Game, so does anyone know how to get rid of this? It's a little misleading. Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 23:03, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

== Name origin ==

About the name origin. For me, the most simple theory is not so clearly mentioned in the current name origin section. My theory is: Arceus is just a transcription of "archeos" from latin (meaning archaich). This was confirmed with the newest trailers that pronounce "Arceus" exactly like "archeos" is pronounced. It is the most direct and simple someone can think of, it's more or less the same process used for other Pokémon name such as Luvdisc, since "luv" has the same pronountiation as "love".

== izanagi and izanami ==

If Japan and Gods is created, it seems to be worth describing to trivia. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 12:37, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

My remark on the page of the edit became interrupted. Arceus lives in the interior of Spear Pillar. There are a spear and a point of contact of the creation of the Shintoism myth. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 07:27, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:But would that not mean that Arceus would have to be two, and not one? I think Dialga and Palkia, both met at Spear Pillar itself, better represent the two, with Giratina representing what happened to Izanami after Kagu-tsuchi burned her. Arceus created the universe... Dialga and Palkia were the ones who created Spear Pillar, and from it, Sinnoh. Arceus is above them. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:49, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

::Thank you for correcting my English.
::It is said that it is izanami and izanagi that it gave birth to the gods for the first time by the myth of Shintoism. Kunitokotachi and Amenominakanushi doesn't make the gods though Kunitokotachi and Amenominakanushi is the first god. There are izanami(izanagi) and a lacking part because neither Dialga nor Palkia make "Legend pokeomn". It is guessed that the ability of izanagi and izanami that creates the gods is equipped in Arceus.
::I am satisfied with the sentence that Mr. TTEchidna corrected. It is not necessary to discuss it any further.
[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 08:33, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

== Colour Changing Articles ==

I know but it seems kind of pointless, when I fist read the article I thought you'd made a mistake calling it a Dragon-type and when I scrolled down I thought you'd lost your marbles when you were indicating pokeathlon stats for its Bug forme specifically. The Pokedex on the games treats it as a Normal-type. We don't have different coloured articles for Kecleon or Castform and they don't need to be holding special items to change forme. I think leaving it as Normal-type is most convenient and less confusing, also we have articles displaying what TMs and HMs it can learn as different types so why bother with all this. [[User:Lucky V4.0|Lucky V4.0]] 14:27, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:Its probably because Arceus has different Performance stats for its forms, its attack has different type for plate held, and because its sprite changes too. Too just list it all would make the page too long if it weren't hidden. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:32, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
::I'm not suggesting have everything listed for all types. However it would be easier to select which type you want instead of it being random each time. [[User:Lucky V4.0|Lucky V4.0]] 15:22, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:::I know. But I'm pretty sure with {{bp|wikicode}} you can't do that, unless each type had their own page. At least with the random function you have a 1/17 chance of getting the one you want. If not, then just use the show/hide function. The only difference would be the template colors. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:32, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== Type Change ==

I've ranted on this subject time and time again but isn't it misleading for someone to come across this article and for it to say that Arceus is a Ghost or Ice type (or whatever type that shows up) when Arceus is Normal-type but changes due to an item. This is no different than making Kecleon's page change types randomly because of Color Change, except for what color Arceus changes to, or listing every Pokémon with the chance of having the ability Mummy since any Pokémon except for Arceus and Shedinja can have the Mummy ability. I believe that Arceus needs to be listed as a Normal type as it naturally is when no items are held, just like how Kecleon is when it hasn't been hit by a foe's move or how a Marill is before being hit by a foe with the ability mummy. Does anyone else agree? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:37, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
:How is it misleading? The intro sentence of this artticle clearly states: "Arceus (Japanese: アルセウス Arceus) is a Normal-type legendary Pokémon. However, its type will change when it is holding one of sixteen items known as plates and can in reality be any type. " —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 21:42, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, exactly it says it's a Normal-type (Because naturally it is) while the templates might say it's a Poison-type when this isn't always the case, yeah so it's not always Normal-type either but may I remind you of Kecleon? Or maybe we can say that its type "varies", but I'd rather leave the templates as if it's a Normal-type. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:15, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
:::What's the big deal? The Kecleon example you are using... the type is not permanent after battle, hence why Porygon nor Pokémon with Camouflage is on here as well. Kecleon and Porygon... they were Normal-type prior to battle, and they are still Normal-type after battle. The difference is that Arceus's type is permanent from before battle and after battle. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:18, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Yeah, but it isn't a natural Water or Grass-type, it is a Water or Grass type only when holding their respective plates, but naturally, without the use of an item, Arceus is a Normal-type, if they came up with an item called Aqua Sponge that turned Water-types into Normal-types we wouldn't make every Water-type Pokémon's page rotate from Normal to Water, of course I know the difference is that would be affecting a lot more pages but I still think it's misleading and somewhat confusing with the Forme rotation. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 01:14, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::It changes because it's a form difference if Kecleon changed its sprite then we could do something with it.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 04:23, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::Kecleon does not actually change forms; if {{a|Color Change}} counted as changing forms, we could say that all Pokémon do due to Color Change being {{m|Skill Swap}}pable. However, Arceus does actually change forms. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:37, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Isn't that why we have this, [[File:Arceus Formes.gif]] in order to demonstrate all formes? In fact we could use something like this in the sprite template couldn't we? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 19:40, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I agree with Landfish7. This whole page changing is crazy!--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 19:47, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::I hadn't ever really looked at this page before, but I recently needed to check up on something about Arceus. I was completely baffled to see it was labled as an Electric-type. It took me nearly a minute to understand what was going on. The type changes ARE really confusing, especially for people viewing the page for the first time. [[User:Moltres93|Moltres93]] 11:44, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::I think if we HAVE to keep it like this at ''least'' put the informer on the page itself instead of the discussion.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:11, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

== Dream art in info box ==

Yeah. It's pretty cool it changes with the type. But... every other article uses Sugimori art. And it's better looking. So... what do we do here? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:49, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
:I thought the plan was to have them alternate every so often between normal and Dream... I'd definitely keep the Normal art for now though.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 22:47, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
::It uses the game artwork when the page is on the {{type|???}}. [[Typhlosion|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon|★]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]] 22:51, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
::: I'm new, but I thought we used the artwork from the generation the pokemon is from (DP), so why is there dream world artwork? [[User:S and T|S and T]] 05:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
::::We generally use the most recent, rather than the generation they are from (except anniversaries of the generations). See {{p|Marill}} and its current use of FR/LG art. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:23, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

== Umm... ==

In The Rise of Darkrai, I think I heard Arceus' name (that giant, winged light ball thing at the end of the movie) being pronounced "Ar-see-ay". Is that worth adding to the trivia? (I would appreciate verification, as this was a long time ago that I saw the movie).--[[User:Silentzerox|Silentzerox]] 02:22, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

== "[Type]-Type Dream World art by '''Ken Sugimori'''" ==

Since when was Ken confirmed to be the one who made the dream world art? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 22:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Battle Cry - (Stand Up!)

2011-02-10T01:58:43Z

Celibi25: /* Trivia */

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'''Battle Cry - (Stand Up!)''' is the opening theme song for the English dub of [[Pokémon Diamond & Pearl: Galactic Battles]]. It was used from ''[[DP105|Get Your Rotom Running!]]'' to ''[[DP157|Gotta Get a Gible!]]''. It was originally made up of various episode clips. Starting with the airing of ''[[DP121|The Lonely Snover!]]'', a new version featuring scenes from ''[[High Touch!]]'' and ''[[DP129|Pillars of Friendship!]]'' began airing. An extended version of the song was used as the opening theme to ''[[M12|Arceus and the Jewel of Life]]''.

==Version 1==
===Characters===
[[File:OP12 old.png|right|thumb|240px|Image from the first version]]
====Humans====
* {{Ash}}
* {{an|Dawn}}
* {{an|Brock}}
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]
* {{an|Barry}}
* [[Byron]]
* [[Riley]]
* [[Cyrus]]
* [[Charon]]
* [[Mars]]
* [[Team Galactic|Galactic Grunts]]

====Pokémon====
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Buizel}} ({{OP|Ash|Buizel}})
* {{p|Chimchar}} ({{OP|Ash|Chimchar}})
* {{p|Gliscor}} ({{OP|Ash|Gliscor}})
* {{p|Grotle}} ({{OP|Ash|Grotle}})
* {{p|Buneary}} ({{OP|Dawn|Buneary}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Wobbuffet}} ({{OP|Jessie|Wobbuffet}})
* {{p|Seviper}} ({{OP|Jessie|Seviper}})
* {{p|Yanmega}} ({{OP|Jessie|Yanmega}})
* {{p|Carnivine}} ({{OP|James|Carnivine}})
* {{p|Steelix}} ([[Byron]]'s)
* {{p|Staraptor}} ({{an|Barry}}'s)
* {{p|Roserade}} ({{an|Barry}}'s)
* {{p|Lucario}} ({{OP|Riley|Lucario}})
* {{p|Purugly}} ([[Mars]]'s)
* {{p|Rotom}} (Heat form)
* {{p|Luxio}}
* {{p|Aggron}}
* {{p|Metang}}

===Opening animation spoilers===

* [[Ash's Gliscor]] learning {{m|Fire Fang}}.
* {{Ash}}'s [[Gym]] {{pkmn|battle}} with [[Byron]], the Pokémon they use, and Ash's victory.
* [[DP110|The]] [[DP111|events]] on [[Iron Island]].
* {{an|Dawn}} using {{TP|Dawn|Buneary}} in the [[Chocovine Town]] {{pkmn|Contest}}.

==Version 2==

===Characters===
====Humans====
* {{Ash}}
* {{an|Dawn}}
* {{an|Brock}}
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]
* [[Saturn]]
* [[Mars]]
* [[Jupiter]]
* [[Cyrus]]
* [[Professor Oak]]
* {{Tracey}}
* {{Delia}}
* {{an|May}}
* [[Max]]
* [[J]]
* {{si|Kenny}}
* [[Zoey]]
* [[Paul]]
* {{an|Misty}}
* {{Gary}}

====Pokémon====
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Staraptor}} ({{OP|Ash|Staraptor}})
* {{p|Buizel}} ({{OP|Ash|Buizel}})
* {{p|Chimchar}} ({{OP|Ash|Chimchar}})
* {{p|Gliscor}} ({{OP|Ash|Gliscor}})
* {{p|Grotle}} ({{OP|Ash|Grotle}})
* {{p|Piplup}} ({{OP|Dawn|Piplup}})
* {{p|Ambipom}} ({{OP|Dawn|Ambipom}})
* {{p|Pachirisu}} ({{OP|Dawn|Pachirisu}})
* {{p|Mamoswine}} ({{OP|Dawn|Mamoswine}})
* {{p|Buneary}} ({{OP|Dawn|Buneary}})
* {{p|Sudowoodo}} ({{OP|Brock|Sudowoodo}})
* {{p|Happiny}} ({{OP|Brock|Happiny}})
* {{p|Croagunk}} ({{OP|Brock|Croagunk}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Wobbuffet}} ({{OP|Jessie|Wobbuffet}})
* {{p|Seviper}} ({{OP|Jessie|Seviper}})
* {{p|Yanmega}} ({{OP|Jessie|Yanmega}})
* {{p|Carnivine}} ({{OP|James|Carnivine}})
* {{p|Mime Jr.}} ({{OP|James|Mime Jr.}})
* {{p|Registeel}} ([[Brandon's Regis#Registeel|Brandon's]])
* {{p|Regirock}} ([[Brandon's Regis#Regirock|Brandon's]])
* {{p|Regice}} ([[Brandon's Regis#Regice|Brandon's]])
* {{p|Salamence}} ({{OP|J|Salamence}})
* {{p|Toxicroak}} ({{OP|Saturn|Toxicroak}})
* {{p|Prinplup}} ({{OP|Kenny|Prinplup}})
* {{p|Glameow}} ({{OP|Zoey|Glameow}})
* {{p|Golbat}} ([[Galactic Grunt]]s')
* {{p|Regigigas}} (two)
* {{p|Darkrai}}
* {{p|Wingull}} (flock)

===Opening animation spoilers===
* {{Ash}} and the {{ashfr|gang}} [[DP129|meeting]] [[J]] again at the [[Snowpoint Temple]], encountering a {{p|Regigigas}} and the [[Brandon's Regis|legendary golems]].

==Lyrics==
===TV Version===
<ab>''Sometimes it's hard to know,
Which way you're supposed to go.
But deep inside, you know you're strong.
If you follow your heart, you can't be wrong.

Stand Up!
(Stand Up!)
For what is right.
Be brave!
Get ready to fight.
Hold On!
(Hold On!)
We're friends for life.
And if we come, together as one.
Complete the quests that we've begun.
We will win the [[Pokémon battle|battle]]!
[[Team Galactic|Galactic]] Battles! Pokémon!''</ab>

===Movie Version===
<ab>''Sometimes it's hard to know,
Which way you're supposed to go.
But deep inside, you know you're strong.
If you follow your heart, you can't be wrong.

Sometimes it's hard to see,
Just what's your destiny.
But when you find the path that's true,
You'll know that's the one for you.

Stand Up!
(Stand Up!)
For what is right.
Be brave!
(Be brave!)
Get ready to fight!
Hold on!
(Hold on!)
We're friends for life!
And if we come together as one,
Complete the quest that we've begun.
We will win the {{pkmn|battle}}!
Pokémon!

The time is now, the game's begun!
Together we will fight as one!
Each of us, in our own way,
Can make this world a better place.

Stand Up!
(Stand Up!)
For what is right.
Be brave!
(Be brave!)
Get ready to fight!
Hold on!
(Hold on!)
We're friends for life.
And if we come together as one,
Complete the quest that we've begun.
We will win the battle!
Pokémon!

Just when it seems that you are lost and all alone,
You will find the courage and the strength to carry on.
And if you fall along the way,
Have the faith you'll be okay.
'Cause your friends are there for you,
Reachin' out to pull you through.

Stand Up!
(Stand Up!)
For what is right.
Be brave!
(Be brave!)
Get ready to fight!
Hold on!
(Hold on!)
We're friends for life.
And if we come together as one,
Complete the quest that we've begun.
We will win the battle!
Pokémon!''</ab>

==Trivia==
* This opening was originally made up of scenes from ''[[DP105|Get Your Rotom Running!]]'', ''[[DP106|A Breed Stampede!]]'', ''[[DP108|Dealing With Defensive Types!]]'', ''[[DP109|Leading a Stray!]]'', ''[[DP110|Steeling Peace of Mind!]]'', ''[[DP111|Saving the World From Ruins!]]'', and ''[[DP114|Another One Gabites the Dust!]]''. This made it the only opening thus far to be made entirely of scenes from episodes, containing no clips from Japanese openings or endings.
* In ''[[DP121|The Lonely Snover!]]'', the opening was updated to feature scenes from ''[[High Touch!]]'' and ''[[DP129|Pillars of Friendship!]]''. {{AP|Pikachu}}, {{AP|Gliscor}}, {{AP|Chimchar|Monferno}}, and {{AP|Buizel}} calling out their names at the end of the theme was also removed.
** Among English themes, only ''[[Unbeatable]]'' had a running change prior to this. However, this remains the only English theme to have two very distinct versions.
* Although the opening changed on August 22, 2009, the Cartoon Network airings didn't become high definition until the airing of ''[[DP126|Classroom Training!]]'' on October 3, 2009.
* Unlike the longer version of ''[[Unbeatable]]'' used in ''[[M08|Lucario and the Mystery of Mew]]'', the version of this song used in the twelfth movie removed references to the [[Pokémon Diamond & Pearl: Galactic Battles|season]]. This is similar to what was done in the version of ''{{OBP|Battle Frontier|dub}}'' used in ''[[DP114|Another One Gabites the Dust!]]''.
*This is the only time that '''every''' single scene within an English opening has been changed to something different. This was due to the transition to widescreen episodes.
*Strangely, the computer beeps from the shot with [[Cyrus]] were not edited out, so the beeping still occurs for apparently no reason.

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Shaymin (Pokémon)

2011-02-09T01:32:35Z

Celibi25: /* Trivia */

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{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Shaymin |
jname=シェイミ |
tmname=Shaymin |
image=492Shaymin-{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=Sky|Land}}.png |
caption={{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=Sky|Land}} Forme art by [[Ken Sugimori]] from {{v2|Platinum}} |
size=180px |
crysp=025S |
pron=<sc>shay-min</sc>|
ndex=492 |
abrow=SP |
obrow=S-002 |
typen=3 |
type1=Grass |
type3=Flying |
species=Gratitude |
forme=2|
forme1=Land Forme |
forme2=Sky Forme |
height-ftin=0'08" |
height-ftin2=1'04" |
height-m=0.2 |
height-m2=0.4 |
weight-lbs=4.6 |
weight-lbs2=11.5 |
weight-kg=2.1 |
weight-kg2=5.2 |
abilityn=alt |
ability1=Natural Cure |
ability2=Serene Grace |
egggroupn=0 |
egggroup1=No eggs |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=120|
evhp={{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19={{tt|0|3 in Land Forme}}|{{tt|3|0 in Sky Forme}}}} |
evsp={{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19={{tt|3|0 in Land Forme}}|{{tt|0|3 in Sky Forme}}}} |
expyield=64 |
lv100exp=1,059,860 |
gendercode=255 |
color=Green |
catchrate=45 |
body=08 |
pokefordex=shaymin |
generation=4 |
footnotes= |
disptype={{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=flying}}}}
'''Shaymin''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''シェイミ''' ''Shaymin'') is a {{type2|Grass}} [[legendary Pokémon]].

It was not officially revealed until February of 2008, when it was listed as a star of ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''. In early June of the same year, its Sky Forme was revealed, which takes on the {{type2|Flying}} as a secondary type.

It is not known to evolve into or from another Pokémon.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
[[File:Shaymin Gracideas anime.png|thumb|left|250px|Shaymin and Gracideas]]
Shaymin is a small, hedgehog-like creature. Its body is pure white. Its back is covered with green fur and has a pink flower with two leaves on each side of its head, which resembles the {{OBP|Gracidea|flower}} flower, several Gracidea-like flowers also appear on its back whenever it feels comfortable, but when it senses an impending danger, it rapidly hides it back. Its legs are short and its underside is plump. Shaymin is the smallest legendary Pokémon to date. According to the Pokédex height of 0'08", it is also among the smallest Pokémon in existence, with its comrades being {{p|Diglett}}, {{p|Natu}}, {{p|Azurill}}, {{p|Budew}}, {{p|Burmy}}, and {{p|Chingling}}.
[[File:Shaymin revert.png|250px|thumb|{{mov|Shaymin|Shaymin|11}} reverting back at night and in the cold]]
As first revealed by Japan's [[CoroCoro]] Magazine, Shaymin has [[Form differences#Shaymin|two forms]]. The first (Land Forme) is the original form seen in {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}. The second is the Sky Forme which debuted in ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''. Shaymin will change into Sky Forme and back if it touches a {{OBP|Gracidea|flower}}. Shaymin can't be in this form at night or if it has [[Status ailment#Freeze|contact with ice]]. Shaymin's Sky Forme has a canid-like appearance that also bears some resemblance to a small reindeer. It has a small, slender body. The fur on its back appears to have shifted into a mohawk; it has a red flower petal on the right side of its neck, looking like a scarf or cape, and flat, white ears that look like wings or antlers. It has a small ruff on the front of its neck and a stumpy tail.

====Gender differences====
Shaymin is a genderless species.

====Special abilities====
Shaymin have the ability to instantly purify any polluted area of all unclean things in the air and transform it into a lush field of flowers. They take in the polluted air, purify it inside their bodies, break it down into water and light, and release the purified substance in a violent, explosive burst. This ability is known as {{m|Seed Flare}}, their [[signature move]]. Its power varies on the type of pollution absorbed. Shaymin can also communicate with telepathy and sense the gratitude of others, hence its species classification, the ''Gratitude Pokémon''.

===Behavior===
[[File:Shaymin curled up.png|right|thumb|230px|Shaymin curled up]]
Shaymin have a habitual trait called "Flower Bearing." Each season, Shaymin gather in a flower field somewhere and migrate from there. This behavior is called Flower Carrying because a new field of flowers grow where they land. Shaymin are also attracted to areas where there is a lot of gratitude. Their personalities are almost opposite with each form — Land Forme is shy and easily scared, while Sky Forme is courageous and playful. If wet, Shaymin shake themselves to dry themselves off, and also may exhibit the behavior of scratching themselves with a hind leg.

===Habitat===
Shaymin live in fields of flowers. Since a Shaymin camouflages by {{m|Defense Curl|curling itself up}}, it can easily escape people's notice, similar to {{p|Geodude}} on rocky terrain.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}
In ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]'', Shaymin is seen liking sweet food such as [[Poffin]]s and pancakes. In Platinum, when caught at the [[Flower Paradise]], Shaymin have been observed to hold the [[Lum Berry]].

==In the anime==
[[File:Shaymin anime.png|thumb|190px|Shaymin in the anime]]
{{mov|Shaymin|Shaymin|11}} made its debut in the 11th [[Pokémon movie]], ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]'', where it was fleeing from Giratina, after enraging it in the [[Reverse World]]. Shaymin thought that Giratina wanted to eat it. It premiered both of its forms in the movie. Shaymin also makes a minor appearance in Arceus and the Jewel of Life's credits where it stands gazing upon the land on a tree.

Shaymin made its debut anime appearance in ''[[DP168|Keeping In Top Forme!]]''.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh|size=75%}}
{{Animedexbody|DP168|Shaymin|Dawn's Pokédex|Shaymin, the Gratitude Pokémon. When the Gracidea flower is in bloom, it's pollen allows Shaymin to change into its Sky Forme from its Land Forme. Shaymin also have a tendency to migrate.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond and Pearl''|Sinnoh}}

==In the manga==
Shaymin made its debut in the manga adaption of the 11th [[Pokémon movie]], ''{{ma|Giratina and the Sky Warrior}}''.
==In the TCG==
{{main|Shaymin (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===

{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19={{Dex
|type=grass
|type2=flying
|gen=4
|diamonddex=It lives in flower patches and avoids detection by curling up to look like a flowering plant.
|pearldex=It can dissolve toxins in the air to instantly transform ruined land into a lush field of flowers.
|platinumdex=The flowers all over its body burst into bloom if it is lovingly hugged and senses gratitude.
|hgssdex=The blooming of [[Gracidea (flower)|Gracidea flowers]] confers the power of flight upon it. Feelings of gratitude are the message it delivers.
|bwdex={{tt|ひとに　やさしく　だきしめられ　　ありがとうの　きもちを　かんじると　ぜんしんの　はなが　ひらきだす。|The flowers all over its body burst into bloom if it is lovingly hugged and senses gratitude.}}
}}|{{Dex
|type=grass
|gen=4
|diamonddex=It lives in flower patches and avoids detection by curling up to look like a flowering plant.
|pearldex=It can dissolve toxins in the air to instantly transform ruined land into a lush field of flowers.
|platinumdex=The flowers all over its body burst into bloom if it is lovingly hugged and senses gratitude.
|hgssdex=The blooming of [[Gracidea (flower)|Gracidea flowers]] confers the power of flight upon it. Feelings of gratitude are the message it delivers.
|bwdex={{tt|ひとに　やさしく　だきしめられ　　ありがとうの　きもちを　かんじると　ぜんしんの　はなが　ひらきだす。|The flowers all over its body burst into bloom if it is lovingly hugged and senses gratitude.}}
}}}}

===Game locations===

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|type=grass
|type2=flying
|gen=4
|dprarity=One
|dparea=[[Flower Paradise]] (requires [[Oak's Letter]])
|ptrarity=One
|ptarea=[[Flower Paradise]] (requires [[Oak's Letter]])
|hgssex=pal
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|type=grass
|gen=4
|dprarity=One
|dparea=[[Flower Paradise]] (requires [[Oak's Letter]])
|ptrarity=One
|ptarea=[[Flower Paradise]] (requires [[Oak's Letter]])
|hgssex=One
|hgssarea=[[Trade]]
}}}}

====In side games====

{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19={{SidegameAvail
|type=Grass
|type2=flying
|ranger2=[[Pueltown]] (during an Extra Mission)
|scramble=Ticket for releasing {{p|Arbok}}, {{p|Charizard}}, {{p|Kangaskhan}}, {{p|Bastiodon}} and {{p|Arcanine}}
|md3=[[Shaymin Village]] random [[Spinda's Café]] (project P) mission
|pokepark=[[Granite Zone]] {{tt|*|Can be befriended through Absol's Hurdle Bounce}}
}}|{{SidegameAvail
|type=Grass
|ranger2=[[Pueltown]] (during an Extra Mission)
|scramble=Ticket for releasing {{p|Arbok}}, {{p|Charizard}}, {{p|Kangaskhan}}, {{p|Bastiodon}}, and {{p|Arcanine}}
|md3=Sky Peak (Top), will ask to join team automatically after climbing the dungeon a second time
|pokepark=[[Flower Zone]] {{tt|*|Cannot be befriended in the Flower Zone}}
}}}}

====In events====
{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19={{eventAvail/h|type=grass|type2=flying}}|{{eventAvail/h|type=grass}}}}
{{eventAvail|Movie Shaymin|Movie|Japan|2008|50}}
{{eventAvail|List of Nintendo event Pokémon in 2009#Toys "R" Us Shaymin|Toys "R" Us|United States|2009|50}}
{{eventAvail|List of Nintendo event Pokémon in 2009#UK GAME Shaymin|GAME|United Kingdom|2009|50}}
|}

===Held items===

{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=
{{HeldItems|type=grass|type2=flying
|dppt1=Lum Berry|dppt1type=Berry|dppt1rar=100
|event1=Micle Berry|event1type=Berry|event1rar=100
}}|{{HeldItems|type=grass
|dppt1=Lum Berry|dppt1type=Berry|dppt1rar=100
|event1=Micle Berry|event1type=Berry|event1rar=100
|event2=Soothe Bell|event2type=Soothe Bell|event2rar=100
}}}}

{| width="100%" class="collapsible"
|

===Stats===
====Base stats====
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=expandable|collapsible}}"
|
=====Land Forme=====
|-
|
{{BaseStats|
type=grass|
HP= 100 |
Attack= 100 |
Defense=100 |
SpAtk= 100 |
SpDef= 100 |
Speed= 100 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
=====Sky Forme=====
|-
|
{{BaseStats|
type=grass|
type2=flying|
HP= 100 |
Attack=103 |
Defense=75 |
SpAtk= 120 |
SpDef= 75 |
Speed= 127 }}
|}

{| width="100%" class="collapsible"
|
====Pokéathlon stats====
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=expandable|collapsible}}"
|
=====Land Forme=====
|-
|
{{Pokéthlon|
|type=Grass
|Speed=4
|SpeedMax=5
|Power=2
|PowerMax=4
|Technique=2
|TechniqueMax=3
|Stamina=3
|StaminaMax=4
|Jump=3
|JumpMax=3
}}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
=====Sky Forme=====
|-
|
{{Pokéthlon|
|type=Grass
|type2=Flying
|Speed=3
|SpeedMax=5
|Power=4
|PowerMax=4
|Technique=3
|TechniqueMax=4
|Stamina=3
|StaminaMax=3
|Jump=5
|JumpMax=5
}}
|}

{| width="100%" class="collapsible"
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===Type effectiveness===
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=expandable|collapsible}}"
|
====Land Forme====
|-
|
{{Type effectiveness|
type1=grass|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 200 |
Ground= 50 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 200 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric= 50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
====Sky Forme====
|-
|
{{Type effectiveness|
type1=grass|
type2=flying|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting= 50 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 200 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 25 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 400 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
notes=yes|
flying=yes|
newground=½}}
|}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{| width="100%" class="collapsible"
|
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=expandable|collapsible}}"
|
=====Land Forme=====
|-
|
{{learnlist/levelh|Shaymin|Grass|Grass|5|4}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Growth|Normal|Status|—|—|40}}
{{learnlist/level5|10|Magical Leaf|Grass|Special|60|—|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|19|Leech Seed|Grass|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|28|Synthesis|Grass|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|37|Sweet Scent|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|46|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|55|Worry Seed|Grass|Status|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|64|Aromatherapy|Grass|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|73|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|82|Sweet Kiss|Normal|Status|—|75|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|91|Healing Wish|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|100|Seed Flare|Grass|Special|120|85|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf|Shaymin|Grass|Grass|5|4}}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
=====Sky Forme=====
|-
|
{{learnlist/levelh|Shaymin|Grass|Flying|5|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Growth|Normal|Status|—|—|40}}
{{learnlist/level5|10|Magical Leaf|Grass|Special|60|—|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|19|Leech Seed|Grass|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|28|Quick Attack|Normal|Physical|40|100|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|37|Sweet Scent|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|46|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|55|Worry Seed|Grass|Status|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|64|Air Slash|Flying|Special|75|95|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|73|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|82|Sweet Kiss|Normal|Status|—|75|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|91|Leaf Storm|Grass|Special|140|90|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|100|Seed Flare|Grass|Special|120|85|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf|Shaymin|Grass|Flying|5|5}}
|}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Shaymin|grass|{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=flying|grass}}|5|4}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM22|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM29|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM53|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM68|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM70|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM75|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM86|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Shaymin|grass|{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=flying|grass}}|5|4}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
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|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=expandable|collapsible}}"
|
=====Land Forme=====
|-
|
{{learnlist/tutorh|Shaymin|grass|grass|5|4}}
{{learnlist/tutor5null}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Shaymin|grass|grass|5|4}}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
=====Sky Forme=====
|-
|
{{learnlist/tutorh|Shaymin|grass|flying|5|4}}
{{learnlist/tutor5null}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Shaymin|grass|flying|5|4}}
|}

====By {{pkmn2|event}}s====
{{learnlist/eventh|Shaymin|grass|{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=flying|grass}}|4|4}}
{{learnlist/event4|[[M11|11th]] [[List of Nintendo event Pokémon in 2008#Movie Shaymin|movie]] and [[List of Nintendo event Pokémon in 2009#Toys "R" Us Shaymin|Toys "R" Us events]]|Seed Flare|Grass|Special|120|85|5|Cool|2||'''|50}}
{{learnlist/event4|11th movie and Toys "R" Us events|Aromatherapy|Grass|Status|—|—|5|Smart|0|||50}}
{{learnlist/eventf|Shaymin|grass|{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=flying|grass}}|4|4}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame |
type=grass |
ndex=492 |
Ranger2=yes |
Dungeon22formes=yes |
forme=S |
group2=Grass |
assist2=Grass |
rate2=100 |
body2=1 |
iq=A |
field2=None |
field2power=- |
browser2=It protects itself by launching leaves. It {{m|Seed Flare|shoots exploding seeds}} to attack. |
Ranger3=yes |
group3=Grass |
assist3=Grass |
field3=None |
field3power=- |
browser3= It attacks by {{m|Magical Leaf|launching leaves}} and {{m|Seed Flare|causing explosions}}. |
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===Evolution===
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==Trivia==
* Shaymin ties with {{p|Mew}} and {{p|Celebi}} for the highest [[catch rate]] among all [[legendary Pokémon]].
* Like {{p|Darkrai}}, despite being an event-exclusive legendary Pokémon, both the [[Surf glitch]] and [[tweaking]] are able to allow the player to access the [[Flower Paradise]] without the event having been activated.
** This has been rectified in {{game|Platinum}}, as neither Pokémon will appear without the event, even if the player manages to access their area.
* Land Forme Shaymin is the first and, as of [[Generation V]], the only pure Grass-type legendary Pokémon.
* Although Shaymin is a legendary Pokémon, normal wild Pokémon battle music plays while battling it. It shares this trait with {{p|Cresselia}}, {{p|Latias}}, and {{p|Latios}}.
** Out of the four Pokémon listed above, Shaymin is also the only one who is genderless.
** Also out of the above four, Shaymin is the only one that doesn't [[Roaming Pokémon|roam around]].
* Shaymin is implied to be behind the creation of [[Floaroma Town]], as one person notes it was a barren wasteland until one day flowers mysteriously covered it all after someone gave thanks for life's blessings. Additionally, the woman who gives the {{player}} a {{OBP|Gracidea|flower}} flower can be found in Floaroma Town.
* [[Marley]] makes brief references to Shaymin in {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} if spoken with during the player's travel with her in {{si|Victory Road}}. She wants to reach the smooth rock on {{rt|224|Sinnoh}}. Additionally, if a Shaymin is in the player's party, she will take notice.
* Shaymin seems to appear only when someone gives thanks for a significant blessing in their life. A girl in [[Floaroma Town]] states that the flowers the town is famous for appeared after someone gave thanks for nature's blessings. With [[Oak's Letter]], Shaymin will lead the player to [[Flower Paradise]] after they give thanks for their Pokémon journey at the white rock on {{rt|224|Sinnoh}}.
* Unlike most [[legendary Pokémon]], Shaymin needs only 1,059,860 [[Experience]] to get to level 100, whereas others need 1,250,000. It shares this trait with {{p|Mew}} and {{p|Celebi}}.
* Shaymin's Sky Forme has a different [[cry]] than its Land Forme, making Shaymin the first Pokémon to have different cries for different forms, and the first Pokémon to change its cry since the [[player character]]'s {{p|Pikachu}} in {{game|Yellow}}.
** Despite this, the only cry used in [[Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs]] is the one of its Land Forme.
** Due to the Pokédex only registering the first forme's cry, it is impossible to listen to the Sky Forme's cry on it. This is because Shaymin traded in their Sky Forme revert to Land Forme, and wild Shaymin are always in their Land Forme. Also, Pokémon battled between players are not registered in the Pokédex, meaning that it is impossible to register a Sky Forme Shaymin before the Land Forme. It shares this trait with [[Red's Pikachu (game)|the starter Pikachu]] in Pokémon Yellow. In [[Generation V]], the Pokédex allows switching between which Forme is the primary one displayed, therefore allowing Sky Forme's cry to be listened to.
* Shaymin is one of two legendary Pokémon capable of using the [[Appendix:F.E.A.R.|F.E.A.R.]] strategy (the other is {{p|Mew}}).
* In Sky Forme, Shaymin is the only legendary Flying-type Pokémon weak to Flying-type attacks.
* Shaymin is one of two Pokémon whose ability changes depending on its form, the other being {{p|Giratina}}.
* Shaymin is tied with {{p|Celebi}} for highest [[base stat total]] of all {{type2|Grass}} Pokémon.
* A Shaymin caught at the Flower Paradise in {{game|Platinum}} will be a [[fateful encounter]] Pokémon, making it the only Pokémon able to be caught from the wild that has this status. This is to allow it to transform into Sky Forme, as non-fateful Shaymin cannot transform.
** This may be part of the reason why [[Oak's Letter]] was never released for distribution to Diamond and Pearl, as the Shaymin in those games, even if it is caught legitimately, will not be a fateful encounter Shaymin and thus not be able to transform. The reasoning behind disallowing this, of course, was to disallow those who had [[cheating|cheated]] to get Shaymin and those who used the [[Surf glitch]] and [[tweaking]] to do so from obtaining the otherwise-special Sky Forme Shaymin.
*Sky Forme Shaymin has the highest base Speed of all Grass-types.
*Fans have nicknamed Shaymin's Sky Forme 'Skymin'.
* Land Forme Shaymin is the shortest legendary Pokémon.
*Shaymin learns one new move every nine levels.
*Shaymin's pokedex number is 492. In generation IV there were also 492 pokemon besides shaymin.
===Origin===
Shaymin is based on a {{wp|hedgehog}}. However, its white body and the grass-like fur on its back makes it somewhat resemble a {{wp|Chia Pet}} as well. Moreover, when Shaymin (Land Forme) blooms with flowers, as seen in the anime, Shaymin appears as a bouquet of flowers, which serves to emphasize Shaymin's role as the Gratitude Pokémon. On the other hand, Shaymin's Sky Forme shares most of its traits with a small, young {{wp|terrier}}-type dog, but its sprightly behavior, its affinity for flowers, and its ability to fly bring to mind {{wp|fairy|faeries}}. Shaymin's Sky Forme has a few aspects that resemble that of a {{wp|reindeer}} as well.

====Name origin====
Its name is possibly a combination of the Chinese 謝 ''xiè'' (thanks/gratitude) or ジェイド ''jeido'' (jade), which is one of Shaymin's most dominant colors, and 蝟 ''harinezu'''mi''''' (hedgehog). Its name could also be a combination of ''shay'' and ''vitamin''. Also, the word "shaman" can be pronounced like Shaymin, so it may be like a mythical shaman. In addition, the name Shaymin may be a corruption of the Hebrew word Shamayim, which means "sky" and is the name of the first heaven in Jewish mysticism. This correlates directly with Shaymin's Sky Forme.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Shaymin
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Shaymin
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 쉐이미 ''Sheimi''
*[[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese]]: 潔咪 ''Jié Mī'' - Transliteration of its Japanese name. 潔 also means clean, referring to Shaymin's ability to purify the surrounding.

==Related articles==
* [[Shaymin (movie 11)]]

===On Bulbanews===
*{{n|Shaymin to be distributed in Europe}}
*{{n|Official European sites update with Shaymin information}}

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"PokéSpe (Japanese: ポケスペ PokéSupe)." should be "PokéSpe (Japanese: ポケスペ PokeSupe)." as there is no accented e in Hepburn. [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] 12:42, 7 January 2006 (CST)

Does anyone know a good website to read up on these? My library does not have any of them[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]

:So you guys expect me to buy them and post them on the Internet? Dream on...{{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]{{{1|08:23 12 Mar 2008}}}'''
:yes. [[User:Bobbyjkl|Bobby.]] 11:32, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Say, I've a question ==

If the Emerald chapter hasn't finished yet, why did the DP chapter start already? It's Da '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:08 26 May 2008'''''

:Technically, the Emerald chapter has finished in the serializations, but not in the volumes. Volumes don't come out the instant all of the chapters in them have been serialized. It may take quite awhile for successive volumes to come out, such as how it's been at least five months since {{PAV|28}} emerged and no sign of {{PAV|29}} on the horizon.

:I don't quite understand this double standard concerning the Emerald and Diamond/Pearl chapters, however. Diamond/Pearl chapter info usually gets updated as per the serializations, but Emerald chapter info usually waits for the volumes...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:53, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
::Second question: What are serializations? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''06:47 27 May 2008'''''
:::Run as a series. In this case, a comic is serialized in a magazine (individual chapters are run in a magazine).--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:02, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
::::It's even more complicated with PokeSpe, since different stories run on 3 different magazines (Shogaku 4-nensei/5-nensei/6-nensei). --[[User:Kohei|Pizza]][[User talk:Kohei|man]] 12:40, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== English Release ==

Does anyone know when/if any of the volumes after the yellow chapter came out in english? because after the yellow chapter there is no listed US release date but I have been able to find up to volume 27 in english on ebay, but idk if those were fake, so I just want to know if they ever came out in english. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 00:23, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
:The US stopped publishing in English so Chung-Yi now does it but only in the Singapore.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 00:26, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
:My country has Emerald, if I remember it right. tc26 01:08, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Do they print it in singaporese or w/e language they speak or do they print in in english there? --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 00:27, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

It's only there not in the US.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 00:33, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

:Chuang Yi does print the manga in English. They could also print versions in other languages read and spoken around Singapore, such as {{wp|Chinese language|Chinese}} or {{wp|Malay language|Malay}}...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:53, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
::Chuang Yi has so far released volumes 5 to 27. I've so far seen the Gold chapter in Chinese, but no Malay yet...'''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:25 25 Aug 2008'''''
:::Sorry to bring this up again, but Chuang Yi releases the volumes in British English (as by the Singaporean GOvernment standards dammit...) so...yeah. *shot for bring up dead topic* '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]

do you mean in the uk?[[User:GoldsWigglytuff|GoldsWigglytuff]] 18:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

How can we get hold of it then?--[[User:Maii|Maii]] 01:29, 15 October 2009 (UTC) [[User:Maii|Maii]]

== Hmm... ==

Think we should put in ''why'' Viz stopped translating? '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''12:37 7 Sep 2008'''''

:We might have to get [[Pokébeach]] to send a correspondent to Viz and get someone at Viz to explain. The currently-well-known reasons are anime popularity and cost, but it's possible that neither of them are right...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:25, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

== USA Engilsh is back ==

I was at our Local Walmart and they have a VIZ version of DP vol 2 I was going to pick it up but I did not have the money

If I get the money I will buy one

I was under the impresion VIZ stop making them but their it was they had a lot of them so I hope they still have them when I go back to buy it{{unsigned|Jawsisra}}
:That's a completely different manga (''[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!]]''). Viz still isn't publishing ''Pokémon Adventures/Special''.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 13:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

== I read it on serbii net ==
can we put a link in? in the intnet it slems to be the best wetsite with it on.
will Joe and the guy who wirtes them mind? can someone look and ask.(I can not go to the
forms or e-mail and can't put in links to no where but Bulbapedia.[[User:GoldsWigglytuff|GoldsWigglytuff]] 18:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
:No. Serebii is not an official source, should there be a link, it should be to netkun. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 00:13, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

== Sprites ==

I found these sprites on Serebii and I uploaded them to the archives. [[Image:Serebii_Special_Sprites.PNG|250px]]

Should they be in the article or something?--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 10:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

:Hm, well there are no lists of characters for Special... so I guess here could be ok, in a box with caption "main characters blah blah blah...". Can you trim the whitespace off the RHS first? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 10:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

You mean something like this I found on the rival page?

{| align=left border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" width="70%"
! colspan="8" style="background: #ccf;" | Main Rival Sprites
|- align=center
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:RBBlue.png]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:Y Blue.png]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:Silver Sprite GS.gif]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:Silver Sprite C.gif]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:Wally game.PNG]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:FL Blue.png]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:Jun.png]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:RivalPlatinum.gif]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 90%;"
| {{ga|Blue}} in {{game|Red and Blue|s}}
| {{ga|Blue}} in {{game|Yellow}}
| {{ga|Silver}} in {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}
| {{ga|Silver}} in {{game|Crystal}}
| [[Wally]] in {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}
| {{ga|Blue}} in {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}
| {{ga|Pearl}} in {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}
| {{ga|Pearl}} in {{game|Platinum}}
|}

--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 14:18, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

:Those are Serebii's sprites...I don't think it's a good idea to use them. It would be best if you just delete them. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 14:40, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, they were made by him? Whoops, didn't realise. Yeah, best to remove them then. He probably wouldn't like the fact that we're stealing them. Do we have an image policy about where we can get images from, btw? Sketch? Other admins? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 20:06, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

::Yea not sprites for them >.>--[[Santa Claus|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 23:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh? Okay......--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 02:08, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Uh..... how do I delete an image from the archives?--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 02:29, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

:Just like here, simply tag it for deletion. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 02:39, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. There's more to know than I thought.....--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 02:51, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

== Wut? ==

"As of June 2009, Viz will be rereleasing the series from volume 1."

Is there a source for this? I found nothing on their website and it seems too good to be true.

[[User:Zesty Cactus|Zesty Cactus]] 21:03, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

:This old news see Amazon.com or the forums.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 23:32, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

::Ooooh. Somehow I totally missed that. Thanks! :] [[User:Zesty Cactus|ZC]]

== Uhm, guys ==

I think everyone's translating Pokémon Special. -.- Can you PLEASE stop putting links to translators??? '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 14:17, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

==Special?==
So if it is always published in English as ''Adventures'', why is it called ''Special'' here all the time? I think you would be hard-pressed to prove that it is called ''Special'' by a majority of readers in English-language regions. --LaprasBoi 13:42, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
:I agree. Viz is republishing the manga, and despite introducing a new logo and restoring the original Japanese right-to-left format, it's still called Pokémon Adventures. In addition, Red's rival (Oak's grandson) is still called Blue and not Green, while the girl is called Green and not Blue, despite this republishing coming after the release of FireRed and LeafGreen (the former of which had Green as a default name for the rival). --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 23:31, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::It’s nice that someone agrees, but as long as the EiC and the head of the manga project both have a personal bias toward Japanese, I doubt this will go anywhere no matter how illogical the current state of affairs is. Also, I think the argument is meant to be consolidated at [[Talk:Green (Adventures)|Talk:Blue (Special)]], I saw an admin point somebody there who began to discuss it somewhere else. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 00:00, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

==HeartGold, SoulSilver ==

Although Platinum hasn't even been released yet, would it be safe to assume that there's going to be a HGSS manga?
--[[User:Bobbyjkl|Bobby.]] 11:32, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

:Well, there is a Platinum chapter currently in serialization as the eighth chapter...

:Trust me, though, it's pretty much a safe bet we'll see a HeartGold/SoulSilver storyline in chapter nine. Nothing's 100% confirmed as of yet (and, as such, we're not going to just go out and create pages for chapter nine just yet), but precedent's never failed us before...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:59, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== About the Rereleases ==

So, are they gonna try and continue the series this time, or are they just gonna stop after 7 again. I thought they were gonna keep going, but then [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Amazon,_Shogakukan_announce_six_manga_release_dates this article] posted today seems to imply otherwise. Now i'm confused. I was really hoping they would keep going. [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 19:43, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
:At the moment we know that up to 7 are being released. After that? Only time will tell. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:33, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== Grade? ==

"it was announced that Gakunen magazine Grade 5 and Grade 6 (at the time serializing the Diamond & Pearl chapter) would cease publication at the end of the fiscal year."..."As of December 2009, it has been confirmed that publication in the Grade 4 magazine will continue through 2010"

I'm not sure i understand this. It sounds like they first decided to drop the series, but then changed their minds and gave it another year. Am i right, or am i misinterpreting this? I'm assuming the name "Grade" means it's the same publisher. [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 22:15, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

== please...........someone tell me that this is fake ==

this.......................is this fake?

I've been wondering for a while now...I'm totally confused on wether to believe this is fake or not.....but..

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6080/12779710.jpg

([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 16:49, 1 July 2010 (UTC))

:Sent the guy who supposedly did this a message. The date says July 5 when it was supposed to be released, so if there's not response until then, it ''should'' get posted on that site. If not, I deem fake. Where did you find this?--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 17:19, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

got it from mangafox...but it seems so real I'm just wondering...all the others I've seen were all real and I've yet to see a fake one... ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 17:21, 1 July 2010 (UTC))
:What page exactly may I ask?--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 17:37, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

On the website that was on the page,It said that this is fake.But,Only The World God Only Knows, Sock Monkey Loves You, Hack Link, Hakuoki 2, Bakuman and Deadman Wonderland are real.[[User Talk:LucarioWolf|'''Lucario''']][[User:LucarioWolf|'''Wolf''']] 13:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
:As LucarioWolf said, [http://chartfag.wordpress.com/about-this-moron/#comment-802 it's fake.]--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 14:32, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

I knew it...I had heard that it was supposed to be best wishes there anyway

seriously..the sock monkey thing is real? wtf japan...([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 16:02, 5 July 2010 (UTC))

== Trivia ==

Hitmonlee is shown with springy legs in the red arc as well, and lorelei says in yellow arc that bruno accomplished the impossible by having his hitmonlee's arms accomplish the same springyness as its legs. [[User:SamOak|SamOak]] 22:14, 27 January 2011 (UTC)SamOak

== Pokemon league strangeness ==

In PS39 When Green's Blastoise fainted why didn't she just switch back to jigglypuff?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 15:24, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon Adventures

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"PokéSpe (Japanese: ポケスペ PokéSupe)." should be "PokéSpe (Japanese: ポケスペ PokeSupe)." as there is no accented e in Hepburn. [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] 12:42, 7 January 2006 (CST)

Does anyone know a good website to read up on these? My library does not have any of them[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]

:So you guys expect me to buy them and post them on the Internet? Dream on...{{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]{{{1|08:23 12 Mar 2008}}}'''
:yes. [[User:Bobbyjkl|Bobby.]] 11:32, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Say, I've a question ==

If the Emerald chapter hasn't finished yet, why did the DP chapter start already? It's Da '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:08 26 May 2008'''''

:Technically, the Emerald chapter has finished in the serializations, but not in the volumes. Volumes don't come out the instant all of the chapters in them have been serialized. It may take quite awhile for successive volumes to come out, such as how it's been at least five months since {{PAV|28}} emerged and no sign of {{PAV|29}} on the horizon.

:I don't quite understand this double standard concerning the Emerald and Diamond/Pearl chapters, however. Diamond/Pearl chapter info usually gets updated as per the serializations, but Emerald chapter info usually waits for the volumes...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:53, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
::Second question: What are serializations? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''06:47 27 May 2008'''''
:::Run as a series. In this case, a comic is serialized in a magazine (individual chapters are run in a magazine).--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:02, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
::::It's even more complicated with PokeSpe, since different stories run on 3 different magazines (Shogaku 4-nensei/5-nensei/6-nensei). --[[User:Kohei|Pizza]][[User talk:Kohei|man]] 12:40, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== English Release ==

Does anyone know when/if any of the volumes after the yellow chapter came out in english? because after the yellow chapter there is no listed US release date but I have been able to find up to volume 27 in english on ebay, but idk if those were fake, so I just want to know if they ever came out in english. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 00:23, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
:The US stopped publishing in English so Chung-Yi now does it but only in the Singapore.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 00:26, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
:My country has Emerald, if I remember it right. tc26 01:08, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Do they print it in singaporese or w/e language they speak or do they print in in english there? --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 00:27, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

It's only there not in the US.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 00:33, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

:Chuang Yi does print the manga in English. They could also print versions in other languages read and spoken around Singapore, such as {{wp|Chinese language|Chinese}} or {{wp|Malay language|Malay}}...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:53, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
::Chuang Yi has so far released volumes 5 to 27. I've so far seen the Gold chapter in Chinese, but no Malay yet...'''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:25 25 Aug 2008'''''
:::Sorry to bring this up again, but Chuang Yi releases the volumes in British English (as by the Singaporean GOvernment standards dammit...) so...yeah. *shot for bring up dead topic* '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]

do you mean in the uk?[[User:GoldsWigglytuff|GoldsWigglytuff]] 18:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

How can we get hold of it then?--[[User:Maii|Maii]] 01:29, 15 October 2009 (UTC) [[User:Maii|Maii]]

== Hmm... ==

Think we should put in ''why'' Viz stopped translating? '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''12:37 7 Sep 2008'''''

:We might have to get [[Pokébeach]] to send a correspondent to Viz and get someone at Viz to explain. The currently-well-known reasons are anime popularity and cost, but it's possible that neither of them are right...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:25, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

== USA Engilsh is back ==

I was at our Local Walmart and they have a VIZ version of DP vol 2 I was going to pick it up but I did not have the money

If I get the money I will buy one

I was under the impresion VIZ stop making them but their it was they had a lot of them so I hope they still have them when I go back to buy it{{unsigned|Jawsisra}}
:That's a completely different manga (''[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!]]''). Viz still isn't publishing ''Pokémon Adventures/Special''.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 13:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

== I read it on serbii net ==
can we put a link in? in the intnet it slems to be the best wetsite with it on.
will Joe and the guy who wirtes them mind? can someone look and ask.(I can not go to the
forms or e-mail and can't put in links to no where but Bulbapedia.[[User:GoldsWigglytuff|GoldsWigglytuff]] 18:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
:No. Serebii is not an official source, should there be a link, it should be to netkun. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 00:13, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

== Sprites ==

I found these sprites on Serebii and I uploaded them to the archives. [[Image:Serebii_Special_Sprites.PNG|250px]]

Should they be in the article or something?--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 10:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

:Hm, well there are no lists of characters for Special... so I guess here could be ok, in a box with caption "main characters blah blah blah...". Can you trim the whitespace off the RHS first? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 10:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

You mean something like this I found on the rival page?

{| align=left border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" width="70%"
! colspan="8" style="background: #ccf;" | Main Rival Sprites
|- align=center
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:RBBlue.png]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:Y Blue.png]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:Silver Sprite GS.gif]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:Silver Sprite C.gif]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:Wally game.PNG]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:FL Blue.png]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:Jun.png]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:RivalPlatinum.gif]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 90%;"
| {{ga|Blue}} in {{game|Red and Blue|s}}
| {{ga|Blue}} in {{game|Yellow}}
| {{ga|Silver}} in {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}
| {{ga|Silver}} in {{game|Crystal}}
| [[Wally]] in {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}
| {{ga|Blue}} in {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}
| {{ga|Pearl}} in {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}
| {{ga|Pearl}} in {{game|Platinum}}
|}

--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 14:18, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

:Those are Serebii's sprites...I don't think it's a good idea to use them. It would be best if you just delete them. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 14:40, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, they were made by him? Whoops, didn't realise. Yeah, best to remove them then. He probably wouldn't like the fact that we're stealing them. Do we have an image policy about where we can get images from, btw? Sketch? Other admins? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 20:06, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

::Yea not sprites for them >.>--[[Santa Claus|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 23:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh? Okay......--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 02:08, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Uh..... how do I delete an image from the archives?--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 02:29, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

:Just like here, simply tag it for deletion. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 02:39, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. There's more to know than I thought.....--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 02:51, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

== Wut? ==

"As of June 2009, Viz will be rereleasing the series from volume 1."

Is there a source for this? I found nothing on their website and it seems too good to be true.

[[User:Zesty Cactus|Zesty Cactus]] 21:03, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

:This old news see Amazon.com or the forums.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 23:32, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

::Ooooh. Somehow I totally missed that. Thanks! :] [[User:Zesty Cactus|ZC]]

== Uhm, guys ==

I think everyone's translating Pokémon Special. -.- Can you PLEASE stop putting links to translators??? '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 14:17, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

==Special?==
So if it is always published in English as ''Adventures'', why is it called ''Special'' here all the time? I think you would be hard-pressed to prove that it is called ''Special'' by a majority of readers in English-language regions. --LaprasBoi 13:42, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
:I agree. Viz is republishing the manga, and despite introducing a new logo and restoring the original Japanese right-to-left format, it's still called Pokémon Adventures. In addition, Red's rival (Oak's grandson) is still called Blue and not Green, while the girl is called Green and not Blue, despite this republishing coming after the release of FireRed and LeafGreen (the former of which had Green as a default name for the rival). --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 23:31, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::It’s nice that someone agrees, but as long as the EiC and the head of the manga project both have a personal bias toward Japanese, I doubt this will go anywhere no matter how illogical the current state of affairs is. Also, I think the argument is meant to be consolidated at [[Talk:Green (Adventures)|Talk:Blue (Special)]], I saw an admin point somebody there who began to discuss it somewhere else. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 00:00, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

==HeartGold, SoulSilver ==

Although Platinum hasn't even been released yet, would it be safe to assume that there's going to be a HGSS manga?
--[[User:Bobbyjkl|Bobby.]] 11:32, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

:Well, there is a Platinum chapter currently in serialization as the eighth chapter...

:Trust me, though, it's pretty much a safe bet we'll see a HeartGold/SoulSilver storyline in chapter nine. Nothing's 100% confirmed as of yet (and, as such, we're not going to just go out and create pages for chapter nine just yet), but precedent's never failed us before...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:59, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== About the Rereleases ==

So, are they gonna try and continue the series this time, or are they just gonna stop after 7 again. I thought they were gonna keep going, but then [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Amazon,_Shogakukan_announce_six_manga_release_dates this article] posted today seems to imply otherwise. Now i'm confused. I was really hoping they would keep going. [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 19:43, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
:At the moment we know that up to 7 are being released. After that? Only time will tell. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:33, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== Grade? ==

"it was announced that Gakunen magazine Grade 5 and Grade 6 (at the time serializing the Diamond & Pearl chapter) would cease publication at the end of the fiscal year."..."As of December 2009, it has been confirmed that publication in the Grade 4 magazine will continue through 2010"

I'm not sure i understand this. It sounds like they first decided to drop the series, but then changed their minds and gave it another year. Am i right, or am i misinterpreting this? I'm assuming the name "Grade" means it's the same publisher. [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 22:15, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

== please...........someone tell me that this is fake ==

this.......................is this fake?

I've been wondering for a while now...I'm totally confused on wether to believe this is fake or not.....but..

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6080/12779710.jpg

([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 16:49, 1 July 2010 (UTC))

:Sent the guy who supposedly did this a message. The date says July 5 when it was supposed to be released, so if there's not response until then, it ''should'' get posted on that site. If not, I deem fake. Where did you find this?--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 17:19, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

got it from mangafox...but it seems so real I'm just wondering...all the others I've seen were all real and I've yet to see a fake one... ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 17:21, 1 July 2010 (UTC))
:What page exactly may I ask?--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 17:37, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

On the website that was on the page,It said that this is fake.But,Only The World God Only Knows, Sock Monkey Loves You, Hack Link, Hakuoki 2, Bakuman and Deadman Wonderland are real.[[User Talk:LucarioWolf|'''Lucario''']][[User:LucarioWolf|'''Wolf''']] 13:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
:As LucarioWolf said, [http://chartfag.wordpress.com/about-this-moron/#comment-802 it's fake.]--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 14:32, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

I knew it...I had heard that it was supposed to be best wishes there anyway

seriously..the sock monkey thing is real? wtf japan...([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 16:02, 5 July 2010 (UTC))

== Trivia ==

Hitmonlee is shown with springy legs in the red arc as well, and lorelei says in yellow arc that bruno accomplished the impossible by having his hitmonlee's arms accomplish the same springyness as its legs. [[User:SamOak|SamOak]] 22:14, 27 January 2011 (UTC)SamOak

== Pokemon league strangeness ==

In PS:39 when Green's Blasty fainted why didn't she switch back to jigglypuff?

== Pokemon league strangeness ==

In PS39 When Green's Blastoise fainted why didn't she just switch back to jigglypuff?

Talk:Pokémon Adventures

2011-02-08T15:20:29Z

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"PokéSpe (Japanese: ポケスペ PokéSupe)." should be "PokéSpe (Japanese: ポケスペ PokeSupe)." as there is no accented e in Hepburn. [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] 12:42, 7 January 2006 (CST)

Does anyone know a good website to read up on these? My library does not have any of them[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]

:So you guys expect me to buy them and post them on the Internet? Dream on...{{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]{{{1|08:23 12 Mar 2008}}}'''
:yes. [[User:Bobbyjkl|Bobby.]] 11:32, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Say, I've a question ==

If the Emerald chapter hasn't finished yet, why did the DP chapter start already? It's Da '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:08 26 May 2008'''''

:Technically, the Emerald chapter has finished in the serializations, but not in the volumes. Volumes don't come out the instant all of the chapters in them have been serialized. It may take quite awhile for successive volumes to come out, such as how it's been at least five months since {{PAV|28}} emerged and no sign of {{PAV|29}} on the horizon.

:I don't quite understand this double standard concerning the Emerald and Diamond/Pearl chapters, however. Diamond/Pearl chapter info usually gets updated as per the serializations, but Emerald chapter info usually waits for the volumes...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:53, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
::Second question: What are serializations? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''06:47 27 May 2008'''''
:::Run as a series. In this case, a comic is serialized in a magazine (individual chapters are run in a magazine).--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:02, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
::::It's even more complicated with PokeSpe, since different stories run on 3 different magazines (Shogaku 4-nensei/5-nensei/6-nensei). --[[User:Kohei|Pizza]][[User talk:Kohei|man]] 12:40, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== English Release ==

Does anyone know when/if any of the volumes after the yellow chapter came out in english? because after the yellow chapter there is no listed US release date but I have been able to find up to volume 27 in english on ebay, but idk if those were fake, so I just want to know if they ever came out in english. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 00:23, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
:The US stopped publishing in English so Chung-Yi now does it but only in the Singapore.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 00:26, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
:My country has Emerald, if I remember it right. tc26 01:08, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Do they print it in singaporese or w/e language they speak or do they print in in english there? --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 00:27, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

It's only there not in the US.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 00:33, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

:Chuang Yi does print the manga in English. They could also print versions in other languages read and spoken around Singapore, such as {{wp|Chinese language|Chinese}} or {{wp|Malay language|Malay}}...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:53, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
::Chuang Yi has so far released volumes 5 to 27. I've so far seen the Gold chapter in Chinese, but no Malay yet...'''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:25 25 Aug 2008'''''
:::Sorry to bring this up again, but Chuang Yi releases the volumes in British English (as by the Singaporean GOvernment standards dammit...) so...yeah. *shot for bring up dead topic* '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]

do you mean in the uk?[[User:GoldsWigglytuff|GoldsWigglytuff]] 18:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

How can we get hold of it then?--[[User:Maii|Maii]] 01:29, 15 October 2009 (UTC) [[User:Maii|Maii]]

== Hmm... ==

Think we should put in ''why'' Viz stopped translating? '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''12:37 7 Sep 2008'''''

:We might have to get [[Pokébeach]] to send a correspondent to Viz and get someone at Viz to explain. The currently-well-known reasons are anime popularity and cost, but it's possible that neither of them are right...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:25, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

== USA Engilsh is back ==

I was at our Local Walmart and they have a VIZ version of DP vol 2 I was going to pick it up but I did not have the money

If I get the money I will buy one

I was under the impresion VIZ stop making them but their it was they had a lot of them so I hope they still have them when I go back to buy it{{unsigned|Jawsisra}}
:That's a completely different manga (''[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!]]''). Viz still isn't publishing ''Pokémon Adventures/Special''.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 13:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

== I read it on serbii net ==
can we put a link in? in the intnet it slems to be the best wetsite with it on.
will Joe and the guy who wirtes them mind? can someone look and ask.(I can not go to the
forms or e-mail and can't put in links to no where but Bulbapedia.[[User:GoldsWigglytuff|GoldsWigglytuff]] 18:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
:No. Serebii is not an official source, should there be a link, it should be to netkun. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 00:13, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

== Sprites ==

I found these sprites on Serebii and I uploaded them to the archives. [[Image:Serebii_Special_Sprites.PNG|250px]]

Should they be in the article or something?--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 10:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

:Hm, well there are no lists of characters for Special... so I guess here could be ok, in a box with caption "main characters blah blah blah...". Can you trim the whitespace off the RHS first? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 10:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

You mean something like this I found on the rival page?

{| align=left border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" width="70%"
! colspan="8" style="background: #ccf;" | Main Rival Sprites
|- align=center
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:RBBlue.png]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:Y Blue.png]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:Silver Sprite GS.gif]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:Silver Sprite C.gif]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:Wally game.PNG]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:FL Blue.png]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:Jun.png]]
| width="12.5%" | [[Image:RivalPlatinum.gif]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 90%;"
| {{ga|Blue}} in {{game|Red and Blue|s}}
| {{ga|Blue}} in {{game|Yellow}}
| {{ga|Silver}} in {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}
| {{ga|Silver}} in {{game|Crystal}}
| [[Wally]] in {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}
| {{ga|Blue}} in {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}
| {{ga|Pearl}} in {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}
| {{ga|Pearl}} in {{game|Platinum}}
|}

--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 14:18, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

:Those are Serebii's sprites...I don't think it's a good idea to use them. It would be best if you just delete them. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 14:40, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, they were made by him? Whoops, didn't realise. Yeah, best to remove them then. He probably wouldn't like the fact that we're stealing them. Do we have an image policy about where we can get images from, btw? Sketch? Other admins? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 20:06, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

::Yea not sprites for them >.>--[[Santa Claus|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 23:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh? Okay......--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 02:08, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Uh..... how do I delete an image from the archives?--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 02:29, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

:Just like here, simply tag it for deletion. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 02:39, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. There's more to know than I thought.....--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 02:51, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

== Wut? ==

"As of June 2009, Viz will be rereleasing the series from volume 1."

Is there a source for this? I found nothing on their website and it seems too good to be true.

[[User:Zesty Cactus|Zesty Cactus]] 21:03, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

:This old news see Amazon.com or the forums.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 23:32, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

::Ooooh. Somehow I totally missed that. Thanks! :] [[User:Zesty Cactus|ZC]]

== Uhm, guys ==

I think everyone's translating Pokémon Special. -.- Can you PLEASE stop putting links to translators??? '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 14:17, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

==Special?==
So if it is always published in English as ''Adventures'', why is it called ''Special'' here all the time? I think you would be hard-pressed to prove that it is called ''Special'' by a majority of readers in English-language regions. --LaprasBoi 13:42, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
:I agree. Viz is republishing the manga, and despite introducing a new logo and restoring the original Japanese right-to-left format, it's still called Pokémon Adventures. In addition, Red's rival (Oak's grandson) is still called Blue and not Green, while the girl is called Green and not Blue, despite this republishing coming after the release of FireRed and LeafGreen (the former of which had Green as a default name for the rival). --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 23:31, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::It’s nice that someone agrees, but as long as the EiC and the head of the manga project both have a personal bias toward Japanese, I doubt this will go anywhere no matter how illogical the current state of affairs is. Also, I think the argument is meant to be consolidated at [[Talk:Green (Adventures)|Talk:Blue (Special)]], I saw an admin point somebody there who began to discuss it somewhere else. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 00:00, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

==HeartGold, SoulSilver ==

Although Platinum hasn't even been released yet, would it be safe to assume that there's going to be a HGSS manga?
--[[User:Bobbyjkl|Bobby.]] 11:32, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

:Well, there is a Platinum chapter currently in serialization as the eighth chapter...

:Trust me, though, it's pretty much a safe bet we'll see a HeartGold/SoulSilver storyline in chapter nine. Nothing's 100% confirmed as of yet (and, as such, we're not going to just go out and create pages for chapter nine just yet), but precedent's never failed us before...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:59, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== About the Rereleases ==

So, are they gonna try and continue the series this time, or are they just gonna stop after 7 again. I thought they were gonna keep going, but then [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Amazon,_Shogakukan_announce_six_manga_release_dates this article] posted today seems to imply otherwise. Now i'm confused. I was really hoping they would keep going. [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 19:43, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
:At the moment we know that up to 7 are being released. After that? Only time will tell. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:33, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== Grade? ==

"it was announced that Gakunen magazine Grade 5 and Grade 6 (at the time serializing the Diamond & Pearl chapter) would cease publication at the end of the fiscal year."..."As of December 2009, it has been confirmed that publication in the Grade 4 magazine will continue through 2010"

I'm not sure i understand this. It sounds like they first decided to drop the series, but then changed their minds and gave it another year. Am i right, or am i misinterpreting this? I'm assuming the name "Grade" means it's the same publisher. [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 22:15, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

== please...........someone tell me that this is fake ==

this.......................is this fake?

I've been wondering for a while now...I'm totally confused on wether to believe this is fake or not.....but..

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6080/12779710.jpg

([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 16:49, 1 July 2010 (UTC))

:Sent the guy who supposedly did this a message. The date says July 5 when it was supposed to be released, so if there's not response until then, it ''should'' get posted on that site. If not, I deem fake. Where did you find this?--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 17:19, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

got it from mangafox...but it seems so real I'm just wondering...all the others I've seen were all real and I've yet to see a fake one... ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 17:21, 1 July 2010 (UTC))
:What page exactly may I ask?--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 17:37, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

On the website that was on the page,It said that this is fake.But,Only The World God Only Knows, Sock Monkey Loves You, Hack Link, Hakuoki 2, Bakuman and Deadman Wonderland are real.[[User Talk:LucarioWolf|'''Lucario''']][[User:LucarioWolf|'''Wolf''']] 13:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
:As LucarioWolf said, [http://chartfag.wordpress.com/about-this-moron/#comment-802 it's fake.]--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 14:32, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

I knew it...I had heard that it was supposed to be best wishes there anyway

seriously..the sock monkey thing is real? wtf japan...([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 16:02, 5 July 2010 (UTC))

== Trivia ==

Hitmonlee is shown with springy legs in the red arc as well, and lorelei says in yellow arc that bruno accomplished the impossible by having his hitmonlee's arms accomplish the same springyness as its legs. [[User:SamOak|SamOak]] 22:14, 27 January 2011 (UTC)SamOak

== Pokemon league strangeness ==

In PS:39 when Green's Blasty fainted why didn't she switch back to jigglypuff?

Talk:Pokémon the Series: Black & White

2011-02-08T01:51:21Z

Celibi25: /* Dento is a Game Character..... */

== I've a question ==

<blockquote>''As with both the Advanced Generation and Diamond & Pearl series before it, the Best Wishes series begins with only Ash Ketchum, headed off to a new region with his Pikachu.''</blockquote>
So far as I've seen, there is absolutely no confirmation that Ash will even be the ''main character'' in this series; Japanese fans are throwing around rumors that he's going to be taking Brock's role. So why is speculative crap like that being presented on this page as fact? We don't know anything about the series, and we shouldn't pretend that we do.

But if I'm wrong by all means, point me towards official confirmation of everything mentioned on this page. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:40, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

:They're probably just going on tradition. It won't be for a very long while until the series starts, so the sentence can just probably be removed altogether until then. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 18:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
: It comes from the "leaked" sketch of "Iris" it had Ash in BW Guy Protagonist's clothing. While they may have changed their mind and such, since it looked like a rough/beta sketch. "Iris" does match the silhouette of the BW Anime Heroine, and both "Iris" and Ash were pretty much detailed pretty good, so there is a very likely chance (if that's not confirmation) that Ash will be in the B/W series.--[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 04:00, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
::She never said that Ash wouldn't be in the show, though- more that Ash won't be the main character like he always is, and taking on more of a side role like Brock... ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 04:05, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Um...is that really true?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 02:20, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== The New Girl ==

I may have overlooked it, but does anyone have a link to any official confirmation that the name of the new heroine is Iris? --[[User:Pkmn veteran|Pkmn veteran]] 03:52, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
: Now that I've thought about it, I'm assuming the name came from the leaked line art which was on a Chinese site. Correct me if I'm wrong. --[[User:Pkmn veteran|Pkmn veteran]] 02:46, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
::Yep, that sketch is where people are getting it from. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:49, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

== Air date? ==

When does this series air?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 09:57, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:Upon the conclusion of the [[Diamond & Pearl series]]. It is currently unknown how many more episodes the DP series will have, so it is unknown what date it will air. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 10:08, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
::alright. thank you--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 10:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

== Not confirmed ==
Some of the info (such as Dawn/Brock leaving) has not been explicitly confirmed. Though Dawn's departure is probable, this inbformation is not accurate as it hasn't been confirmed. I'll edit it out for the meanwhile. [[User:Bubblewrap|Bubblewrap]] 15:25, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
:Now, I don't know if anyone's flat out said "BROCK AND DAWN ARE NOT IN THE SHOW" but there's been a few [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Blog_comment_releases_information_on_Black_and_White_anime official] [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Fourth_anime_series_title_revealed sources] which have more or less said they're both out of the show. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 15:31, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
:: (I just realised I can't edit this page!). I know those articles do pretty much confirm it - but I'm sure they could be taken in a different way. We haven't seen any official character images, so we can't say for sure even if it looks very likely. I'm not sure, it's not too big of a problem but I think it could be taken the wrong way. [[User:Bubblewrap|Bubblewrap]] 15:37, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Yes we have. Brock and Dawn are gone. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:57, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

==Reimu==
Is it official? I remember that such name was only used in a description of the anime that was proven false (the same one saying that Koromori was currently being called "Kurimori" and stuff). The author (some guy from Serebii Forums) came and admitted he created it all. - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 00:15, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
:The TV Tokyo site calls him Dento. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 00:17, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
::Would it be... "デント"? "Dent"? Sounds... fine, I guess... and somewhat "western", like Iris, Cheren, Bel, Aloe... - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 00:29, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
:::That's what I was thinking, is it Dento, or Dent? Just curious. Like how Iris' is Airisu(not sure if it is right). --'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 00:39, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

== Edit ==

This page still refers to Dento as Reimu, a rumor which was proved false a long time ago. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:42, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

== Not in the games. ==

*The ''Best Wishes'' series is the only anime series since the [[original series]] to have no game protagonists among Ash's group, and so far the only anime series not to have any characters who appear in the games among Ash's friends.

How do we know this is the case? For all we know they could be gym leaders. {{unsigned|Billyt506}}
:Gym Leaders don't count. It's referring to [[Player character]]s --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 15:04, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Then I guess that trivia is wrong. If gym leaders don't count then the original series also falls into this category. --[[user:Billyt506|Bill]][[Special:Contributions/Billyt506|t]][[User talk:Billyt506|506]] 14:08, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
:Well Ash counts as being based on Red, unless Ash doesn't count. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:10, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9228/dento.jpg Dento by Ken Sugimori [[User:Hikaru Wazana]]

== Dento is a Game Character..... ==

On serebii.net, it talks about Dento being a game character, so for now, only Iris is the anime-only character joining Ash's group. So that trivia should be taken down. [[User:BAC510]] August 3rd, 2010 (UTC)

August 3rd, 2010: Dento has been revealed to be a Game Character by Yahoo Japan. There's also a Sugimori Art which confirms this. {{unsigned|Didich}}
:Settle down people. We don't need a million people posting the same thing. It will be updated soon. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 18:39, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
::Just wanted to point out that there being Sugimori art of a character {{img|Jenny Sugimori.png|doesn't prove anything}}. I mean in this context it's pretty much confirmed that Dento is a game character, but if having Sugimori artwork were the definitive confirmation for being a game character, then [http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/art/ all the movie characters] would be game characters, too. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:43, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Jenny don't appears in Pokemon Yellow?? [[User:Hikaru Wazana]] August 3rd, 2010 (UTC)
:That's not the point. :| [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:56, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Link to page for Iris
A page for Iris has been created already, but her name is red.[[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 11:27, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
:Dammit. We're getting rid of the outdated first Gym Leader only to replace him... with the first Gym Leader. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:54, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

::Both Dent ''and'' Iris are in the new series. We even have users with the game to prove it.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 01:51, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

"The Best Wishes series is the only anime series since the original series to have no in-game playable characters present in Ash's group." How exactly is this true? Brock, Misty and Tracey Sketchit were never player characters. There was Todd Snap sure, but it's not like it specifies that, and he was a temporary traveling companion. [[User:Rai Marshall|Rai Marshall]] 07:41, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:I think it's because Ash is based on Red.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 07:44, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
: I think it refers to May and Dawn joining him in AG and DP. Both of them are counterparts of '''playable''' characters in RSE and DPPt. In BW, neither the boy nor the girl from Black and White join him. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 07:47, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:: Ash is indeed based on Red, but that piece of trivia specifically mentions 'in-game playable characters present in Ash's '''group.'''" And the piece of trivia mentions '''original series''', and not AG or DP. [[User:Rai Marshall|Rai Marshall]] 07:54, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:::"The Best Wishes series is the only anime series '''since the original series''' to have no in-game playable characters present in Ash's group." Its saying AG and DP have player characters (counterparts), and that the Original and BW series do not. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 07:59, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh I get it now, I misread the darn thing. Gee, I'm sorry everyone. [[User:Rai Marshall|Rai Marshall]] 08:09, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::I read it wrong too. >_< Sorry.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 10:44, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::And Ash is based on an 'in-game playable character' and he is in Ash' group, so the trivia is incorrect this way. Perhaps you should add 'from the most recent generation games' {{unsigned|Bigtukker}}
:::::::Ash's name isn't Red, nor does he have the same clothes. He's more loosely based on a game character, unlike Dawn and May. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:25, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

== Interlanguage ==

Please add <nowiki>[[de:Staffel 14]]</nowiki>. Also, the Japanese link doesn't work (the article does not exist there). Thanks in advance.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] [[User talk:Afrael|talk]] 15:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:Season 14 won't be the BW series, it'll be the first BW season. Like AG isn't season 6, it's 6, 7, 8, and 9, and DP isn't season 10, it's 10, 11, 12, and 13. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:35, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

== Dento replacing Brock. ==

Are we absolutely certain that Dento is the one who replaces Brock? For all we know, he would share that position with Shooti, or that Shooti is the one who actually replaces Brock, and Dento is an actual new character. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 12:00, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:Or Shooti replaces Ash. We haven't seen Ash since that leaked character model sheet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:33, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
::That's not what the article says. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:42, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah. 'Cause the best source for Bulbapedia is Bulbapedia. So, the article is always right (but believe me, I've reverted dozens of bad edits which were done because "other article said so"). Don't treat Bulbapedia as a source for itself, it's one of the most annoying things here (but it always happens when a big source becomes reliable). --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 08:46, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
::::We really need to make any references to Ash transparent, since he has not made any appearances in any promotional materials aside from the leaked concept art, which is proven to be even less reliable for determining something than previews. I mean, we have had countless concept art of Pokemon that would be appearing in Pokemon only for it to turn out that the Pokemon in question never even appeared. Until Ash actually appears in a BW trainer, even for a minute, we shouldn't treat it as though Ash will be appearing in the region. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 12:54, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Ash wasn't in any DP promotion until right before the series started. Just saying. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 19:44, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::This IS right before the series is going to start. We would have gotten something about Ash by now that isn't a character model sheet. I won't completely rule out the possibility, but the fact that they are still keeping Ash out makes the chances of him being the main character less. At this point in AG, we already knew that Ash was in it, and instead we were wondering if Paul replaced Brock. {{unsigned|Weedle Mchairybug}}
:::::::We don't even know when the series starts so we can't technically say it is right before the show starts. Who cares anyway, this discussion is about Brock and Dento, not Ash. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 21:56, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I only brought up Ash because TTEchidna mentioned it. Not that it matters, though. And yes, we do know when the series starts (It starts the same day Pokemon Black and White is released.). Anyways, we should at the very least remove that bit about Dento replacing Brock as we don't even know the full details. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:16, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::No we don't know when the series starts. The anime airs on Thursday and the games are coming out Saturday. They aren't airing the same day. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 00:16, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

== Premiere Date? ==

Can anyone confirm if [http://twitpic.com/2gmhxb this] is real. If so BW is starting September 23. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 22:38, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

== Air date & Pikachu confirmation ==

Like on BulbaNews, The air date has been confirmed. And a Pikachu will appear. I'd say add Pikachu, but it's not confirmed it's Ash's Pikachu (We all know what some people are like with concrete confirmation) --[[User:S2daam|samm -- ]] 00:10, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

--Yeah, Ash is in it. See the trailer after DP189. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6-pmMU7_ug&feature=player_embedded

Also, new poster. Should we use this? It looks a lot spiffier than the current one. http://pokebeach.com/news/0810/best-wishes.jpg --[[User:YakobTheRed|YakobTheRed]] 18:10, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

== Other Posters ==

I was wondering, instead of Just the posters going down the article, maybe this?

===Other posters===
<gallery>
File:BW series prerelease.png|Early ''Best Wishes'' poster
</gallery>

Any ideas?--[[User:S2daam|samm -- ]] 11:22, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

== Two Things ==

IDK how this works, but I have two minor suggestions, one being that some sites are reporting that this series will be faster paced, and Ash's Facial redesign, he no longer has Black small eyes, but big brown eyes, thats pretty significant after ten years- ''unsigned comment from {{u|PokeExtreme}} ([[User talk:PokeExtreme|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PokeExtreme|contribs]]) ''

== something of note ==

(I'm new to this stuff so don't berate me)
Should someone add to the trivia that the shell on mijumaru's belly is missing on the poster?

reubenator
:The shell is in its hand. The anime has shown that it can remove the shell and use it like a weapon, hence the shell in its hand not on its chest. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 10:54, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

== New Trivia ==

Can someone add a trivia piece stating the Isshu arc of the anime is the first regional arc not to begin on the same say as its respective games since Gold and Silver and the Johto saga? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 14:37, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

== Edit request ==

Please change all instances of Dento into Dent. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 21:06, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== B W ==

So, I noticed that there's no mention of the fact that "'''B'''est '''W'''ishes" starts with the same letters as "'''B'''lack & '''W'''hite". Is this not notable enough or something? [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 00:11, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Running gag ==

Should it be noted that a running gag within the series is where something comes towards Ash, Iris and Dent, and Iris allways gets away from it, while Ash and Dent are hit by it. Just a thought. --[[User:S2daam|samm -- ]] 21:25, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:It's happened like what? Twice? I don't think that's enough to consider it a running gag [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 21:28, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::Well how many episode does it take? if it happened twice in the same episode then sure that's not even close to a running gag but if it happened in more that one episode, does it need to be 3 episodes it happens in? 5? 10? if we add it an then never see it again we can always remove it, people seem to forget that when you add something to this wiki it's not concrete we can remove it later on. —[[User:Lord mada|Mada-sama]] ([[User talk:Lord mada|Talk to me!]])— 00:24, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
:::It should happen at least five times before we can even consider it. It only happened twice, two eps in a row I might add, and hasn't happened since. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:29, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
::::Oh I see. But why is it 5 times? Can you point me in the direction of where this was discussed previously? I'd greatly appreciate it. —[[User:Lord mada|Mada-sama]] ([[User talk:Lord mada|Talk to me!]])— 23:22, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::It was never discussed. I just gave what I thought was a reasonable amount. Yeah, I know there are some things that have less, like Pikachu destroying female character's bikes. But it was more clearly defined. This, on the other hand, could have very well been a coincidence. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:47, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

== About the series name again ==

I was looking at the seasons of the {{series|Diamond and Pearl}}. I want you guys to see the titles of the seasons during the series. I'll list them here:

*[[Pokémon: Diamond and Pearl]]
*[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl: Battle Dimension]]
*[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl: Galactic Battles]]
*[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl: Sinnoh League Victors]]

Notice how the titles changed after the initial season of DP. Instead of just being "Pokémon:", it became "Pokémon Diamond and Pearl:". So my question is, what happens if they do the same thing with Best Wishes?

It wasn't a real big deal because Diamond and Pearl was the name of the Japanese series. But what would happen if the season after [[Pokémon: Black & White!|Black & White!]] was named, for example, "Pokémon Black & White: Plasma Adventures"? I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be called "Pokémon Best Wishes: Plasma Adventures".

If it does happen, do we keep the series at the current title of "Best Wishes" or move it to "Black & White"? I realize it isn't something we have to worry about now, but it is something we should take in to consideration. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:04, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
:Not really. The Japanese and English versions are divided differently. Series applies to the Japanese version, Seasons apply to the English version. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 06:06, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
::I thought about it earlier and discussed it with trom but she gave the same reason that Josh thrown at my face. We should just leave it as it is i.e Best Wishes even if it's Black & White: etc. I guess we don't have a choice. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 06:13, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

:::why can't I change the page title to Black and white series?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 21:54, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
::::Read I already said why. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 22:43, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

== English Best Wishes Logo? ==

Someone should put the English logo for Bets Wishes in the article somewhere since the Japanese Logo is in there.

Here's the link to Cartoon Network's logo for Pokemon: Black & White! {{unsigned|Bellsprout}}

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d9/Black_and_White_anime_banner.png
:No. Black and White is the name of the 14th DUB season. The Japanese version does not use seasons, they use series, and series and seasons are not the same. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 20:05, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon the Series: Black & White

2011-02-07T21:54:09Z

Celibi25: /* About the series name again */

== I've a question ==

<blockquote>''As with both the Advanced Generation and Diamond & Pearl series before it, the Best Wishes series begins with only Ash Ketchum, headed off to a new region with his Pikachu.''</blockquote>
So far as I've seen, there is absolutely no confirmation that Ash will even be the ''main character'' in this series; Japanese fans are throwing around rumors that he's going to be taking Brock's role. So why is speculative crap like that being presented on this page as fact? We don't know anything about the series, and we shouldn't pretend that we do.

But if I'm wrong by all means, point me towards official confirmation of everything mentioned on this page. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:40, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

:They're probably just going on tradition. It won't be for a very long while until the series starts, so the sentence can just probably be removed altogether until then. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 18:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
: It comes from the "leaked" sketch of "Iris" it had Ash in BW Guy Protagonist's clothing. While they may have changed their mind and such, since it looked like a rough/beta sketch. "Iris" does match the silhouette of the BW Anime Heroine, and both "Iris" and Ash were pretty much detailed pretty good, so there is a very likely chance (if that's not confirmation) that Ash will be in the B/W series.--[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 04:00, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
::She never said that Ash wouldn't be in the show, though- more that Ash won't be the main character like he always is, and taking on more of a side role like Brock... ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 04:05, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Um...is that really true?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 02:20, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== The New Girl ==

I may have overlooked it, but does anyone have a link to any official confirmation that the name of the new heroine is Iris? --[[User:Pkmn veteran|Pkmn veteran]] 03:52, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
: Now that I've thought about it, I'm assuming the name came from the leaked line art which was on a Chinese site. Correct me if I'm wrong. --[[User:Pkmn veteran|Pkmn veteran]] 02:46, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
::Yep, that sketch is where people are getting it from. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:49, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

== Air date? ==

When does this series air?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 09:57, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:Upon the conclusion of the [[Diamond & Pearl series]]. It is currently unknown how many more episodes the DP series will have, so it is unknown what date it will air. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 10:08, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
::alright. thank you--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 10:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

== Not confirmed ==
Some of the info (such as Dawn/Brock leaving) has not been explicitly confirmed. Though Dawn's departure is probable, this inbformation is not accurate as it hasn't been confirmed. I'll edit it out for the meanwhile. [[User:Bubblewrap|Bubblewrap]] 15:25, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
:Now, I don't know if anyone's flat out said "BROCK AND DAWN ARE NOT IN THE SHOW" but there's been a few [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Blog_comment_releases_information_on_Black_and_White_anime official] [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Fourth_anime_series_title_revealed sources] which have more or less said they're both out of the show. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 15:31, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
:: (I just realised I can't edit this page!). I know those articles do pretty much confirm it - but I'm sure they could be taken in a different way. We haven't seen any official character images, so we can't say for sure even if it looks very likely. I'm not sure, it's not too big of a problem but I think it could be taken the wrong way. [[User:Bubblewrap|Bubblewrap]] 15:37, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Yes we have. Brock and Dawn are gone. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:57, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

==Reimu==
Is it official? I remember that such name was only used in a description of the anime that was proven false (the same one saying that Koromori was currently being called "Kurimori" and stuff). The author (some guy from Serebii Forums) came and admitted he created it all. - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 00:15, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
:The TV Tokyo site calls him Dento. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 00:17, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
::Would it be... "デント"? "Dent"? Sounds... fine, I guess... and somewhat "western", like Iris, Cheren, Bel, Aloe... - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 00:29, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
:::That's what I was thinking, is it Dento, or Dent? Just curious. Like how Iris' is Airisu(not sure if it is right). --'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 00:39, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

== Edit ==

This page still refers to Dento as Reimu, a rumor which was proved false a long time ago. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:42, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

== Not in the games. ==

*The ''Best Wishes'' series is the only anime series since the [[original series]] to have no game protagonists among Ash's group, and so far the only anime series not to have any characters who appear in the games among Ash's friends.

How do we know this is the case? For all we know they could be gym leaders. {{unsigned|Billyt506}}
:Gym Leaders don't count. It's referring to [[Player character]]s --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 15:04, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Then I guess that trivia is wrong. If gym leaders don't count then the original series also falls into this category. --[[user:Billyt506|Bill]][[Special:Contributions/Billyt506|t]][[User talk:Billyt506|506]] 14:08, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
:Well Ash counts as being based on Red, unless Ash doesn't count. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:10, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9228/dento.jpg Dento by Ken Sugimori [[User:Hikaru Wazana]]

== Dento is a Game Character..... ==

On serebii.net, it talks about Dento being a game character, so for now, only Iris is the anime-only character joining Ash's group. So that trivia should be taken down. [[User:BAC510]] August 3rd, 2010 (UTC)

August 3rd, 2010: Dento has been revealed to be a Game Character by Yahoo Japan. There's also a Sugimori Art which confirms this. {{unsigned|Didich}}
:Settle down people. We don't need a million people posting the same thing. It will be updated soon. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 18:39, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
::Just wanted to point out that there being Sugimori art of a character {{img|Jenny Sugimori.png|doesn't prove anything}}. I mean in this context it's pretty much confirmed that Dento is a game character, but if having Sugimori artwork were the definitive confirmation for being a game character, then [http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/art/ all the movie characters] would be game characters, too. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:43, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Jenny don't appears in Pokemon Yellow?? [[User:Hikaru Wazana]] August 3rd, 2010 (UTC)
:That's not the point. :| [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:56, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Link to page for Iris
A page for Iris has been created already, but her name is red.[[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 11:27, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
:Dammit. We're getting rid of the outdated first Gym Leader only to replace him... with the first Gym Leader. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:54, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

"The Best Wishes series is the only anime series since the original series to have no in-game playable characters present in Ash's group." How exactly is this true? Brock, Misty and Tracey Sketchit were never player characters. There was Todd Snap sure, but it's not like it specifies that, and he was a temporary traveling companion. [[User:Rai Marshall|Rai Marshall]] 07:41, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:I think it's because Ash is based on Red.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 07:44, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
: I think it refers to May and Dawn joining him in AG and DP. Both of them are counterparts of '''playable''' characters in RSE and DPPt. In BW, neither the boy nor the girl from Black and White join him. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 07:47, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:: Ash is indeed based on Red, but that piece of trivia specifically mentions 'in-game playable characters present in Ash's '''group.'''" And the piece of trivia mentions '''original series''', and not AG or DP. [[User:Rai Marshall|Rai Marshall]] 07:54, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:::"The Best Wishes series is the only anime series '''since the original series''' to have no in-game playable characters present in Ash's group." Its saying AG and DP have player characters (counterparts), and that the Original and BW series do not. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 07:59, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh I get it now, I misread the darn thing. Gee, I'm sorry everyone. [[User:Rai Marshall|Rai Marshall]] 08:09, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::I read it wrong too. >_< Sorry.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 10:44, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::And Ash is based on an 'in-game playable character' and he is in Ash' group, so the trivia is incorrect this way. Perhaps you should add 'from the most recent generation games' {{unsigned|Bigtukker}}
:::::::Ash's name isn't Red, nor does he have the same clothes. He's more loosely based on a game character, unlike Dawn and May. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:25, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

== Interlanguage ==

Please add <nowiki>[[de:Staffel 14]]</nowiki>. Also, the Japanese link doesn't work (the article does not exist there). Thanks in advance.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] [[User talk:Afrael|talk]] 15:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:Season 14 won't be the BW series, it'll be the first BW season. Like AG isn't season 6, it's 6, 7, 8, and 9, and DP isn't season 10, it's 10, 11, 12, and 13. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:35, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

== Dento replacing Brock. ==

Are we absolutely certain that Dento is the one who replaces Brock? For all we know, he would share that position with Shooti, or that Shooti is the one who actually replaces Brock, and Dento is an actual new character. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 12:00, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:Or Shooti replaces Ash. We haven't seen Ash since that leaked character model sheet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:33, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
::That's not what the article says. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:42, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah. 'Cause the best source for Bulbapedia is Bulbapedia. So, the article is always right (but believe me, I've reverted dozens of bad edits which were done because "other article said so"). Don't treat Bulbapedia as a source for itself, it's one of the most annoying things here (but it always happens when a big source becomes reliable). --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 08:46, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
::::We really need to make any references to Ash transparent, since he has not made any appearances in any promotional materials aside from the leaked concept art, which is proven to be even less reliable for determining something than previews. I mean, we have had countless concept art of Pokemon that would be appearing in Pokemon only for it to turn out that the Pokemon in question never even appeared. Until Ash actually appears in a BW trainer, even for a minute, we shouldn't treat it as though Ash will be appearing in the region. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 12:54, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Ash wasn't in any DP promotion until right before the series started. Just saying. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 19:44, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::This IS right before the series is going to start. We would have gotten something about Ash by now that isn't a character model sheet. I won't completely rule out the possibility, but the fact that they are still keeping Ash out makes the chances of him being the main character less. At this point in AG, we already knew that Ash was in it, and instead we were wondering if Paul replaced Brock. {{unsigned|Weedle Mchairybug}}
:::::::We don't even know when the series starts so we can't technically say it is right before the show starts. Who cares anyway, this discussion is about Brock and Dento, not Ash. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 21:56, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I only brought up Ash because TTEchidna mentioned it. Not that it matters, though. And yes, we do know when the series starts (It starts the same day Pokemon Black and White is released.). Anyways, we should at the very least remove that bit about Dento replacing Brock as we don't even know the full details. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:16, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::No we don't know when the series starts. The anime airs on Thursday and the games are coming out Saturday. They aren't airing the same day. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 00:16, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

== Premiere Date? ==

Can anyone confirm if [http://twitpic.com/2gmhxb this] is real. If so BW is starting September 23. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 22:38, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

== Air date & Pikachu confirmation ==

Like on BulbaNews, The air date has been confirmed. And a Pikachu will appear. I'd say add Pikachu, but it's not confirmed it's Ash's Pikachu (We all know what some people are like with concrete confirmation) --[[User:S2daam|samm -- ]] 00:10, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

--Yeah, Ash is in it. See the trailer after DP189. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6-pmMU7_ug&feature=player_embedded

Also, new poster. Should we use this? It looks a lot spiffier than the current one. http://pokebeach.com/news/0810/best-wishes.jpg --[[User:YakobTheRed|YakobTheRed]] 18:10, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

== Other Posters ==

I was wondering, instead of Just the posters going down the article, maybe this?

===Other posters===
<gallery>
File:BW series prerelease.png|Early ''Best Wishes'' poster
</gallery>

Any ideas?--[[User:S2daam|samm -- ]] 11:22, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

== Two Things ==

IDK how this works, but I have two minor suggestions, one being that some sites are reporting that this series will be faster paced, and Ash's Facial redesign, he no longer has Black small eyes, but big brown eyes, thats pretty significant after ten years- ''unsigned comment from {{u|PokeExtreme}} ([[User talk:PokeExtreme|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PokeExtreme|contribs]]) ''

== something of note ==

(I'm new to this stuff so don't berate me)
Should someone add to the trivia that the shell on mijumaru's belly is missing on the poster?

reubenator
:The shell is in its hand. The anime has shown that it can remove the shell and use it like a weapon, hence the shell in its hand not on its chest. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 10:54, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

== New Trivia ==

Can someone add a trivia piece stating the Isshu arc of the anime is the first regional arc not to begin on the same say as its respective games since Gold and Silver and the Johto saga? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 14:37, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

== Edit request ==

Please change all instances of Dento into Dent. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 21:06, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== B W ==

So, I noticed that there's no mention of the fact that "'''B'''est '''W'''ishes" starts with the same letters as "'''B'''lack & '''W'''hite". Is this not notable enough or something? [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 00:11, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Running gag ==

Should it be noted that a running gag within the series is where something comes towards Ash, Iris and Dent, and Iris allways gets away from it, while Ash and Dent are hit by it. Just a thought. --[[User:S2daam|samm -- ]] 21:25, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:It's happened like what? Twice? I don't think that's enough to consider it a running gag [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 21:28, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::Well how many episode does it take? if it happened twice in the same episode then sure that's not even close to a running gag but if it happened in more that one episode, does it need to be 3 episodes it happens in? 5? 10? if we add it an then never see it again we can always remove it, people seem to forget that when you add something to this wiki it's not concrete we can remove it later on. —[[User:Lord mada|Mada-sama]] ([[User talk:Lord mada|Talk to me!]])— 00:24, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
:::It should happen at least five times before we can even consider it. It only happened twice, two eps in a row I might add, and hasn't happened since. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:29, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

== About the series name again ==

I was looking at the seasons of the {{series|Diamond and Pearl}}. I want you guys to see the titles of the seasons during the series. I'll list them here:

*[[Pokémon: Diamond and Pearl]]
*[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl: Battle Dimension]]
*[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl: Galactic Battles]]
*[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl: Sinnoh League Victors]]

Notice how the titles changed after the initial season of DP. Instead of just being "Pokémon:", it became "Pokémon Diamond and Pearl:". So my question is, what happens if they do the same thing with Best Wishes?

It wasn't a real big deal because Diamond and Pearl was the name of the Japanese series. But what would happen if the season after [[Pokémon: Black & White!|Black & White!]] was named, for example, "Pokémon Black & White: Plasma Adventures"? I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be called "Pokémon Best Wishes: Plasma Adventures".

If it does happen, do we keep the series at the current title of "Best Wishes" or move it to "Black & White"? I realize it isn't something we have to worry about now, but it is something we should take in to consideration. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:04, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
:Not really. The Japanese and English versions are divided differently. Series applies to the Japanese version, Seasons apply to the English version. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 06:06, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
::I thought about it earlier and discussed it with trom but she gave the same reason that Josh thrown at my face. We should just leave it as it is i.e Best Wishes even if it's Black & White: etc. I guess we don't have a choice. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 06:13, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

:::why can't I change the page title to Black and white series?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 21:54, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

== English Best Wishes Logo? ==

Someone should put the English logo for Bets Wishes in the article somewhere since the Japanese Logo is in there.

Here's the link to Cartoon Network's logo for Pokemon: Black & White! {{unsigned|Bellsprout}}

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d9/Black_and_White_anime_banner.png
:No. Black and White is the name of the 14th DUB season. The Japanese version does not use seasons, they use series, and series and seasons are not the same. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 20:05, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Bulbasaur (Pokémon)

2011-02-04T00:14:27Z

Celibi25: /* Gallery */

Hey can we not have Bulbasaur link to Deoxys in the directory? We're going to get new pokemon and it'd just be better to not have the pokemon in a loop. It'd save sanity for when we get the 4th Gen. I'm trying to fix it now[[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 21:07, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

How so? Just change Deoxys on the Bulbasaur page to whatever the new last one should be when necessary - a single page edit. It's not like there's going to be tons of new pokemon every day. [[User:Sheep|Sheep]] 21:25, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Ok. Let me fix it but if you think I'm gonna relink all 386 pokemon with Meowth again like yesterday..You're nuts.[[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 21:36, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

No Deo-Bulba link. It's not circular. [[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 21:53, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Before all these Pokemon pages are redone, should nav be up on top as well as on bottom, or easily locating the nav, no matter how long the page? --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

This doesn't really relate, but could we add some possibilities to what certain Pokemon are based off of? As well as what names seem to be based off of? Like Bulbasaur=bulb+dinosaur, or Bulbasaur appears to be a dinosaur? Just asking here because it's a Pokemon page with lots of activity {{unsigned|Surskitty}}

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I'm going to try to automate changing all the navigations for all the Pokemon. Hopefully no one starts editing before I get my script working. I may still be a good hour away from perfecting it. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]
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Great. I don't feel like changing them all since we spent so long putting them there to begin with. [[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 01:46, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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Can you believe I spend *36* minutes trying to get this working, trying things, and the problem with my script was an "&" missing? I'll start mass-updating the pages after I ensure there are no problems, and write a looper. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]
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I can believe it. But, I thought we weren't going to loop to Deoxys? Evan said we weren't It's going to be a bit of a pain with the new Pokemon. Not to mention we have to put Munchlax and Rukario in there somewhere.[[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 02:59, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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Would there be a template problem without the looping? If not, then anyone can freely unloop them. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

There is so far. I'm debating whether to make a special template for Deo and Bulba. {{unsigned|Evkl}}

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That should be easy enough. Make a "next" template and a "previous" template, and have the NextPrevious template combine these, right? --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

Perhaps - the problem would then be developing a template to wrap the blue box around it. Or we could just cheat and duplicate code as needed. (Also, I thought you had the Bulbabot account at your disposal to do these automatic changes (they pollute the Recent changes page otherwise)). Also, your bot is a little too overzealous with the &lt; conversion - some HTML tags are also valid in Wiki. - [[User:Zhen Lin|刘 (劉) 振霖]] 07:15, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The &lt; was a mistake because of how I managed the text (along with viewing it in the browser before I had all the find/replace working): download, change < to &lt;, then change newlines to BR tags, then modify, then change BR tags back to new lines, then replace the &lt;. I had forgotten about the &lt; in comments. In the end, it turned out I didn't even need to bother with less-than signs, as the textarea box doesn't even use HTML. As for BulbaBot, I don't remember the password, and it wasn't in .bash_history, nor did I feel up to checking my GAIM log. But if I knew that it wouldn't show up in recent changes, I would have done that. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

== Moves ==

The version isn't specified, and there is already a page format allocated for this. If you just want to test things, you can do it on a seperate page. Or just use the "Show preview" button. --[[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 02:52, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

We know...we're discussing the best way to handle it. I would appreciate it if you wouldn't have any snide comments. We're in a chat right now dealing with it. If you would like to be included in the BMG mod chat please AIM someone.[[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 03:01, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

== Don't mean to impose, but... ==

Have you considered using the setup given by the Pokémon WikiProject at Wikipedia? The articles seems to be more a guide on how they are in the games, instead of their relevance in the game/anime/manga/TCG. Compare [[Wikipedia:Bulbasaur]] with [[Bulbasaur]], for instance. - [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] 00:02, 7 September 2005 (CDT)

I'm sorry, that wasn't terribly clear - what do you mean? What is lacking on the Bulbapedia article? Is it just a matter of depth covered (we might be the biggest Pokémon wiki encyclopedia, but we don't get the kind of activity Wikipedia gets) - or something else? As far as I can see, the Wikipedia articles are structured quite like ours. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 03:36, 7 September 2005 (CDT)
:The articles just need some fleshing out. - [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] 06:34, 7 September 2005 (CDT)
::Then it's nothing to be concerned about. Nothing is ever "done" - it's always open for improvement. Admittedly, it would be nice to have it fleshed out, but we simply don't have the kind of activity Wikipedia gets... so unless you're volunteering to do the work or help convince others to come contribute their work to Bulbapedia, you're just going to have to wait. Bulbapedia, like the Pokémon WikiProject, relies on volunteered work. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 07:07, 7 September 2005 (CDT)

== GameShark/Action Replay Codes? ==

Someone want to put up an explanation for we non-cheating types what the heck those codes are for and why they're in the article? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 06:25, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
:Indeed. They're gone now. The same user also made a dubious edit to the GS Ball article. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 11:01, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

== Sprites! ==

that whole table of the different sprites is very, very, cool. i am thinking perhaps that could become the Project Spritedex? something or another...anyways, i am just letting everybody out there know i would be eager to help get files of the different sprites for you guys...thanks [[User:bill33421]]
PS: the emerald shiny sprite is missing
:Actually, the sprites fall under {{bp|Project Pokédex}}. And yes, I know the Emerald shiny sprite is missing... I haven't been able to find it. If you can add the sprites to Bulbagarden Archives, well, more power to you. Just make sure to upload them with the proper filename. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 11:22, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:interesting...so yes, i will try to get them, but if i could ask, how do '''you''' get them? is there a site that i can find pics on then upload to bulbagarden? or should i crop screenshots of games?
*There are several sites out there with sprites. Pokemon elite 2000 and upokecenter are good candidates; however it is better to do them yourself. I am going to attempt to fill in all the missing sprites for the first generation- I have (nearly) uploaded all the normal and shiny crystal sprites. (all from 10-111)--[[User:Cadellin|Cadellin]] 13:32, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

[[User:Bill33421|Bill33421]] 19:42, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

== Diet ==

What up wit the diet? We're talking about Pokémon, fictional creatures, here, not animals, very few have their own individual diets and most of them just have a link to the Pokémon food main article, I just don't see the point in it. -[[Image:Ani491MS.gif]][[User:Kpokefan|K]][[User Talk:Kpokefan|P]][[Darkrai (Pokémon)|F]]
:Think about it: is it better to have a link to an article or have nothing link to the article on Pokémon food? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:15, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== First Pokemon ==

this part of the trivia section:

"# Bulbasaur is the first dual-type Pokémon in National Dex order.
# Bulbasaur is the first Grass Pokémon in National Dex order.
# Bulbasaur is the first Poison Pokémon in National Dex order.
# Bulbasaur is the first Pokémon in the National Dex order. "

This sounds rediculous, we know Bulbasaur is the first pokemon, so we don't need to say it is the first poison type, grass type, and dual type. ([[User:GT4GTR|--●[[User:GT4GTR|'''GT4GTR''']] [[User talk:GT4GTR|''/ talk /'']]]] 10:05, 22 April 2008 (UTC))

== Movesets ==

Someone should make it so that the moveset ''changes'' to the correct generation when you click on it, rather than linking to a seperate page. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 00:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:<s>That's exactly what it does for me. Maybe it's something to do with your browser.</s> Wait never mind. Well I'll leave a job like that to someone who knows his way around wiki coding.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:03, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:: im not sure if thats possible. TTE made the templates, youll have to bring it up with him. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

== Bulbabye? ==

I was watching the first movie again the other day, and in the Pikachu Short, Ash's Bulbasaur used the "Bulba-Bye" on Togepi. I came to check, but it wasn't here. Wouldn't that be something to put in the Behavior section or something like that? [[User:Dlt4|DLT4]] 04:50, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure it would be "Bulba-by," to fit with "lullaby." Anyway, it would actually probably be more appropriate on [[Ash's Bulbasaur]], since this doesn't seem to exist outside of the Anime and I think that's the only Bulbasaur that used it. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 04:56, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking that too - but Dexter said it was the 'first recording' of it, possibly implying that others do it too. [[User:Dlt4|DLT4]] 22:11, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

:Actually, it implies the exact opposite, if you think about it, considering Dexter was talking DURING the event. Dexter ain't psychic. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 22:18, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

== Problem ==

I have problems viewing the sprite section. When I press the show button it looks sort of distorted. I took a screenshot and I'll upload what it looks like within 5 minutes and post it here. I've tryed it multiple times and it might just be my computer or it might be an error in the system.--[[User:23-03-33]] 21:45, 5 September 2008 (UTC) Here is the image and as you can see the evolution overlaps the sprite page for some reason. [[User:23-03-33]]
:[http://www.getfirefox.com I have a solution]. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:04, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:: Alternatively, get a new IE. I have IE7 and it works fine here. You seem to have... 6? --[[User:Kyoufu Kawa|Kyoufu Kawa]] 07:05, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:: IE7 did make it show up right. thanks for your help. -- [[User:23-03-33]] 07:45, 6 September 2008 (EST)
:::Which leaves us with a problem.What about with the random people who come to this site expecting a good page and the Evoluition box overlaps in the Sprite section....--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Talk]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Contributions))]]
Cant we put a link on the front page that says "This Website is Best Viewed in Mozilla Firefox" or whatever those say? [[User:Dlt4|DLT4]] 04:16, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
:Likely. Or plaster GET FIREFOX ads all over the freakin' place... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:45, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
::I like TTE's idea, but it's not rational. We should just put a notice on the main page space thingy bob. [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 16:22, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Even with IE6, if you open the sprite box, expand the window to full screen and shrink it back down again, everything lines up correctly. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:53, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
::::That Seems...Inconvenient To Me. [[User:Cal05000|cal05000]] 08:08, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Can MediaWiki do user-agent sniffing? That's a possible solution. Regardless, Firefox isn't the only good browser, nor is it the best browser. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 18:41, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

== Sprites ==
I'm not sure if anyones noticed but Bulbasaur's Platinum non shiny sprite is wrong... and i thought that only 4th gen and sinnoh dex pokemon got new sprites--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 08:25, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I just checked that and you're right, someone needs to fix it--Pokelova 18:33, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

== werid thing ==

When I was on venasor's (sorry for bad spelling), I wanted to see Bulbasaur's page, so I clicked on the name under it's image and when I got on the page it stated "Get a life losers" could someone please fix that. thanks ♥luna13♥

:It's already been fixed. [[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[User talk:Chocolate|Chat with Me]]) 16:39, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

::Who would be dumb enough to put "Get a life losers" on bulbapedia. Its disgraceful! --[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad10]] ([[User talk:Usyflad10|talk]]) 23:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Sprites ==
Anyone else see the shiny sprites are animated? Are the shiny Bulbasaurs in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum animated? {{SUBST::User:SLE aman/Signature}} 01:09, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:Yes. And no, the DPPt sprites aren't animated. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:23, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
::More accurately, they are animated in the game, but for some reason we're only animating the Platinum sprites.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:16, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

== Generation III Learnsets ==

Just a quick question, why don't the other generation learnsets lead to the next Pokémon, like with the PokémonPrevNext thing? ''[[User:ShinjiLover|シンジ]]'''''[[Paul|Shinji]]'''[[User talk:ShinjiLover|Lover]],'''[[Special:Contributions/ShinjiLover|Edits]]''' 21:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
:Um...why would they? --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 23:21, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
::Uh, so it would be EASY to move through the Pokémon? Duh. ''[[User:ShinjiLover|シンジ]]'''''[[Paul|Shinji]]'''[[User talk:ShinjiLover|Lover]],'''[[Special:Contributions/ShinjiLover|Edits]]''' 23:23, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

== Gen III Move sets Wrong ==

My Fire Red Bulbasaur didn't learn sweet scent until level 25. I'm not sure about the rest of the moves, but growth should have been offered at level 25 instead, and I still don't have that by 26. I'll update as I learn new moves. {{unsigned|Coldshrike}}
:Done. I already fixed it, thanks for letting us know. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 12:42, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Cry ==

Bulbasaur's cry is a lower-pitched Pikachu cry. --I [[User:HideInTheDark|hide in the dark]]! 17:30, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
:It is! Hm. You know, on the [[cry]] page, there's information stating there's only 37 "different" cries that make the 151 sounds (obviously stuff like Mewtwo, Mew, Paras, and Parasect have the same underlying cry), but it'd be awesome if we could get someone to compile a list of all the Pokémon that use those specific cries. Gen II also has 30 more, making there be really 67 sounds for 251 Pokémon.
:Think you could make this list up for us? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:08, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

==Type Advantages over Gym Leaders==

This is kind of a small thing, but it's listed that Bulbasaur has a type advantage over the first two gym leaders in Kanto. But since Lt. Surge uses electric types, that gives Bulbasaur a defensive advantage without an offensive disadvantage (as would be the case with Erika). So shouldn't Bulbasaur be listed as having a type advantage over the first three gym leaders? [[User:Gear-Richie|Gear-Richie]] 20:01, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:Saying it has a type advantage for that means like when you used a Razor Leaf against Onix or Staryu it would say "It's Super Effective!". Grass type moves don't do that against Electric types, so technically it is true like it already is. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 20:04, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

:So saying it has a type advantage is limited ONLY to an attack advantage? That doesn't seem right. That would mean there's a difference in nomenclature between Bulbasaur vs. Onix (Offensive only) and Bulbasaur vs. Starmie (Offensive and Defensive). But no such differentiation has ever been used. [[User:Gear-Richie|Gear-Richie]] 19:16, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

:Type advantage is only limited to Attack Advantage, due to Nintendo and the whole Pokémon community thinking you know the strengths and weaknesses of your Pokémon, so if you send out a Ice less Starmie against a Bulbasaur, you are only hurting your self. But, if you but a Bulbasaur against a Starmie, you are giving your self a advantage, due to the Attacks you gave them. Sorry if it sounds a little confusing >.> --[[User:Mclena45|Mclena45]] 02:18, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

== Back Sprite difference ==

Hey- maybe i'm the first, but when i play Sapphire, Bulbasaur's back sprite is the same as bulbapedia's, however my Fire Red game shows a different back sprite. Here's what I mean: in Hoenn, Bulbasaur is squinting, where in FR&LG, Bulbasaur's eyes are wide open.--[[User:Spritemaster|Spritemaster]] 22:58:25, 22, August, 2009 (UTC)

:I believe Bulbapedia uses the most recent back sprites available. So they'll use Emeralds back sprites for Gen III and Heart Gold and Soul Silver for Gen V when it comes out.--[[User:Mclena45|Mclena45]] 02:19, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

==Yellow==
Just disproved the "Bulbasaur joins in Yellow if you're level 20" thing by actually playing Yellow. {{unsigned|PharosAM}}
:It joins when Pikachu has high happiness. That's actually mentioned in the article. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:42, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I just defeated Misty and i got it. Level 20 thing is a long time question on the topic. It may refer to the fact that you may need Pokémon at least level 20. --[[User:Spritemaster|Spritemaster]] 12:17, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

==Sprites==

If you look closely, the Gen.III backsprite is the same as the Gen.II one, only more updated.[[User:Crazylegs24]]
:We try not to have trivia like that. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:36, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
If you look closely, you will find that ALL Pokémon are like that. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 22:41, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

== Protection ==

May I ask why this page is protected? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 01:44, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

== Obvius but not mentiond ==
I would think it is fairly obvius that Bulbasaur inspired the name for Bulbapedia itself, yet it hasn't been mentiond in any trivia. [[User: EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 8:55, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
:Yes it has. The last trivia item mentions how Bulbagarden takes its name from Bulbasaur. Bulbagarden is Bulbapedia's parent site. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 20:08, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

== Edit request ==

Change the image link in the manga section to point to [[a:File:Saur Bulbasaur.jpg]]. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 21:50, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
:Done. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:03, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 22:07, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking we could add the Black and White locations to not only Bulbasaur's page, but all of the pokemon pages. The problem is, I don't have Black and White, so I'm not even sure if you have to transfer the pokemon over or not. Could you guys help me with that? {{u|Jlin8002}}

== Image snapback ==

Why are all the images of Pokémon 001 - 151 turned back to their original red and green artwork? Someone please fix that and return the images to their most modern artworks.--[[User:Flameblight|Flameblight]] 15:15, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I just noticed that as well. I asked in a few other discussions, but I'm really confused why we're using pictures from [[Red and Green]] rather than [[FireRed and LeafGreen]]. ([[User:Holonboy|Holonboy]] 17:35, 1 September 2010 (UTC))
:Well, today is Red and Blue's birthday. I suppose that is why. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 18:38, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
::That seems like a likely reason. Would've been nice if they mentioned that somewhere though so it doesn't look like the site got hacked.--[[User:Flameblight|Flameblight]] 02:54, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== 'Bulbasaur' instead of 'it'. ==

Wouldn't it simply read better if the third-person pronoun 'it' was replaced by 'Bulbasaur' in a lot of cases on this page? I'm thinking specifically about the top of the article, but I'm sure small changes like that could be made to the rest of it. [[User:TomasOMeachair|TomasOMeachair]] 18:12, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

:I understand what you're saying about the 'it' problem in the first paragraph of the article, but it isn't good to say 'Bulbasaur' over and over again. It's repetitive, and slightly awkward to use the same word over and over again. Also, don't forget to sign your post by type the four tildes. ^^ [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 17:18, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

::Sorry, I didn't know that was a rule. I'll do that from now on.

::I'm not saying we replace *every* instance of 'it' with 'Bulbasaur', but there are cases where it's not totally clear what the 'it' is referring to - you can understand what it's referring to if you apply a bit of common sense, obviously, but the issue's more one of grammar than anything else.

::I will say that I'm in no way an authority on style or English grammar (other than having it as a first language), so I'm completely open to advice/correction/direction. I don't seem to be able to edit the page myself, which is why I haven't gone and replaced 'it' with 'Bulbasaur' where I thought it was needed. [[User:TomasOMeachair|TomasOMeachair]] 18:12, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:::The page seems to be protected, so I would ask one of the admins to do it. Put a message on their talk page and request an edit. That's what I usually do. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 19:44, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
::::As a general rule of thumb, if it is clear what a pronoun is referring to, it should normally be used, with the full noun to used occasionally. Repeating the full name every time is clumsy and can be distracting or difficult to read, while if it becames unclear or the pronoun hasn't been used for several sentences the noun should be used instead, to prevent confusion and remind readers what is being talked about.

::::That said, as I'm reading it, it is clear what ''it'' is referring to, but it is overused in places and gets repetitive, such as in the intro. Other sections overuse Bulbasaur a little, and read clumsily. Overall it's just a matter of style which isn't particularly bad in this article. I've reworded the intro slightly to try and make it less clumsy. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 00:19, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Broken link ==

The links to "Normal Box" and "Gorgeous Box" under Held Items are broken. They should redirect to "Pokémon doll#Normal and Gorgeous Boxes" rather than "Held item#Normal and Gorgeous Boxes." Other Pokémon who can generate these items might need this kind of edit too. (This kind of shows how fragile the current direct-linking system for items currently is, but it's way to late to change anything, of course. ☺ ) [[User:Redletterday|Redletterday]] 21:09, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks to {{u|Sol}}, those links were quickly fixed. (I'd like to add that I didn't have editing access to this article, which is why I posted here.) '''[[User:Redletterday|Redletterday]]''' ([[User Talk: Redletterday|Talk to me!]]) 18:24, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

== Minimum and maximum stats in generations 1 and 2? ==
Hello! Sorry for my bad English, but I am from Germany. I hope, you can understand me.
I just have the generation 1 and 2 games (red, blue, yellow, gold, silver, crystal), and I know, that in these games natures for Pokémon wasn't available (they're coming in generation 3). In the Pokémon pages from 'Bulbapedia' the minimum and maximum stats are calculated WITH this natures. How can I see the min. and max. stats in the first two generations? --[[User:LaBumm|LaBumm]] 12:43, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:You would have to use the stat formula for Generation I and II found [[Stats|here]]. [[User:Pikiwyn|'''''Pikiwyn''''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 12:56, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

== Generation V sprites ==
Shouldn't we show the animation of the pokemon sprites in the sprite list?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 00:42, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
:The sprites are uploaded by individuals. Ripping the sprites from the games is a pain. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 00:44, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

== Bulbasaur's number in the National Pokédex and the Fiore Browser is the same: 001. This makes it and its evolution family one of only five families of Pokémon (comprising thirteen Pokémon altogether) ==

who are the other pokemon?

== Gallery ==

Shouldn't we have an art gallery for ALL official pokemon art? Just because the art is more recently made does not mean that it has to be erased from bulbapedia right?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 00:14, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Bulbasaur (Pokémon)

2011-02-04T00:13:31Z

Celibi25: /* Gallery */ new section

Talk:Season (game mechanic)

2011-02-03T23:54:14Z

Celibi25: /* Time Jumping? */

== "Seasons will change every month in real time. " ==

This should be clarified. I don't think we have 12 seasons. →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:47, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

== Daytime begins and lasts an hour longer? ==

Wait, so, 3:00 AM is Morning, and it lasts until 10:00 AM, and then it's Day until 9:00 PM? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 16:39, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe it depends on the season! That'd be awesome, someone should verify. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 19:39, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
::That's what it said here. But I personally don't know, I haven't explored the game as much as some. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:52, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

== Time Jumping? ==

Has anyone tested if changing the internal Nintendo DS clock will work for this method? I really think that it's worth mentioning in this page. –'''[[User:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User talk:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 19:59, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:I believe Serebii mentioned that he tested it but nothing changed. Don't quote me on that. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 01:30, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::I tried changing the DS clock, the season remains the same, however. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 01:33, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:::The season remains the same until you go into and out of an indoors area. Unlike the morning/day/night changes, it doesn't snap instantly. Probably because that'd be a lame transition at midnight of the last day of the month. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:44, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Not to mention the possibility of being stuck in a winter exclusive area for three months. I have also been able to change both seasons and time on my copy to confirm my suspicion on nights being longer in winter. —[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 00:53, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::So it IS possible to get stuck in a winter only area, I imagined that game freak would have thought of that and made some of those one way ledges to get down.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 23:54, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

== List ==

We may need a list of pokemon that changes encounter rate etc. Anyone? {{unsigned|Icy}}
:I'd say it's based on locations - therefore, it'll be listed there. After all, we don't list all diurnal Pokémon on the time page. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:02, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

== Tomorrow? ==

Mine's changed today, and considering it's Feb, I'm pretty sure it's changed for everyone. [[User:Smashman|Smashman]] 11:01, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
:Yeah, the seasons change every month. Why are you bringing this up? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:04, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
::Well the page still said tomorrow, perhaps I was getting a cached version. I've changed it to use <nowiki>{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}}</nowiki> as that appears to have fixed it for me. – [[User:Smashman|Smashman]] ([[User_talk:Smashman|talk]]) 11:07, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Glitch Pokémon

2011-01-28T02:57:32Z

Celibi25: /* Bad clone page */

Isn't this the exact same thing as [[Glitch]]???? [[Image:Ani234MS.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|MERRY]] [[Image:Ani385MS.gif]] [[User talk:Theryguy512|CHRISTMAS]][[Image:Ani225MS.gif]] 02:17, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

No. A glitch is the general term for an error or programming oversight in a video game. A glitch Pokémon is an error or programming oversight in a Pokémon video game that can be raised, taught attacks, and battled. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 02:19, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:Okey Dokey! [[Image:Ani234MS.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|MERRY]] [[Image:Ani385MS.gif]] [[User talk:Theryguy512|CHRISTMAS]][[Image:Ani225MS.gif]] 11:52, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Glitch Pokémon (In RBY anyway) are not overall harmless--they may corrupt the save file (possibly permanently) upon ''encountering'' them. Capturing them is harmless, some 'dex entries will freeze the game, but the only danger is seeing them in-battle. At least, according to this guide on GameFAQs.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gameboy/file/367023/38434
Any thoughts on this? [[User:Billybobfred|Billybobfred]] 07:26, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, I do have a thought on this. I'm afraid I might get blocked for wording it exactly as it lays out in my mind, though, so here's the general gist of it: The FAQ LIES! Glitch Pokémon are completely HARMLESS! Its the moves some of them can know that do the damage ([[.4]] starting with the move commonly nicknamed {{m|Super Glitch}} has gained it a horrible reputation, given Super Glitch's exceptionally undesirable effect of, worst case scenario, destroying your saved game). Now don't get me wrong, this FAQ is astonishingly knowelegeble on many 1st generation glitches, but the claims that [[MissingNo.|Missingno.]] can destroy the game? Absolutely false, even moreso for [['M]] and everything else. --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]

::Well, it's tecnically the Glithces/Glitch Pokémon that have the moves, so they are dangerous. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 11:50, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, the capslock really convinced me that Gunbladelad's cartridge imploded on its own. Of course glitch Pokemon are 100% harmless. Silly question-- how many times have you encountered one of them on an original cartridge? Just wondering. [[User:Billybobfred|Billybobfred]] 01:54, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

:Me? Multiple times. I have a team on Blue of .4, A, LM4, Missingno., 'M, and h POKé. I have an entire PC box full of Missingno.. I have multiple Kangaskhan, all evolved from 'M. I have ANOTHER .4 rotting away in my PC. And both .4 no longer know Super Glitch, and are level 100, and one of them is one of my main battling Pokémon. And don't forget- RBY are old. These days, although people are no longer so gullible as to swallow this crap without question, RBY cartridges tend to conk out due to old age. Everyone, ask yourselves this; if your Red version deleted itself right after you caught a Tauros, would you run around squawking that Tauros kills games? Didn't think so. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 19:08, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

==Other Glitches?==
I don't know if I should have asked this here, but it seemed like the right place. What about the Glitches that Trainers have when you try to encounter them via Gameshark? There is a way to capture those glitches without the use of the Capture Trainer's Pokémon Code, so should these glitches have pages? --[[User:Boxman|Boxman]] 15:34, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I concur - a bit late. [[User:Mattiuscn|Mattiuscn]] 17:12, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

== Notability criteria, redux ==

Over at [[Bulbapedia_talk:Project_GlitchDex#Notability_criteria|Project GlitchDex]] I recall that we decided that [[Generation I]] glitch Pokémon are "notable" if they can be caught without using a Gameshark, so we kept the number of articles at the 24 listed in the table here. However, recently I'm seeing articles like $ and ...... appear. These glitches cannot be caught in-game without a cheat device. Now, I'm not for deleting them per se, but y'all do realize that there's about a hundred more out there, right? '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' 02:35, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:I would say that those are the only real "glitch Pokémon." They are glitches because the player is not supposed to be able to encounter them throughout normal gameplay. However, anything that requires an Action Replay or similar device is not a glitch pokémon, because the pokémon can not be encountered without cheating. True "glitch pokémon" are the ones from the Mew Glitch and Missingno glitch in gen 1, and the bad egg in gen 4, because apparently they can be encountered in random patches of grass that appear when one is tweaking. To put this in perspective, if I entered a bunch of random numbers/letters into my action replay, started Pokémon Diamond, and the game froze, that would not be a glitch. [[User:Red.Tide|Red.Tide]] 01:27, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

::He did not mean the glitch pokémon encounterable by 'random codes' but simply the Glitch Pokémon that ''do'' have their own index number. Some of those Pokémon have data which is so invalid that they crash the game when encountered via the mew trick or correspond to trainers instead; but they still exist within the game. Take Arceus, he was cheat-only when Diamond and Pearl first came out but he still had an index number and still existed within the game. Like 255-151= 104 glitch Pokémon with actual index numbers diamond and pearl have 65536-493 Pokémon with index numbers but most that don't crash the game are varients of 'blank', DP hybrids or Egg, Bad egg. Surely you could change a Pokémon's name with a code to call it 'Cidoof' but that would technically be bidoof but if you use a party modifier code those glitches you get such as 'O' in Generation I are unique. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 14:20, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

:::I agree. A Glitch Pokémon is one that is found in the game that was not supposed to be there. Those that can not be obtained without a cheating device are still within the code of the game, but they aer not supposed to be there. Ergo, they are glitch Pokémon. [[User:Mattiuscn|Mattiuscn]] 17:33, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Um, I think that there is a DP box for Platinum With a slightly different appearance than on Diamond And Pearl could Someone please help me post it? it has the ability to corrupt data so be carful, you need action replay to find. I believe viewing pokedex Data has potency to freeze game so be careful, thanks. 15:41, 1 October 2009 (UTC) [[User:Tanya3140|Tanya3140]] 11:40,1 October 2009

== Type effectiveness ==

I've been looking through different glitch Pokemon, and I've noticed that the type effectiveness boxes display both the dark and steel types. They are both under normal effectiveness for every Pokemon, regardless of whether they would have affected it otherwise, likely due to the fact that they do not exist in generation 1. Is it necessary to even include them in the list?--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 00:07, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
:Use {{template|RBY Type effectiveness}} instead of the {{template|Type effectiveness}}. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:15, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

== Uh? (Glitch Rhydon) ==
Is it actually a glitchy Rhydon.. or is it a completely different glitch that turns into a Rhydon upon capture (like many other glitch Pokémon)? And if the 8F Glitch's page is being questioned about its notability... well, is this notable? Since I'm assuming it's not actually in the data and is just a random glitch that appears because someone screwed with the memory. :| →''[[User:Tina|'''T'''inā]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 00:40, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:It actually is a glitch rhydon that shows up as a rhydon when fighting it.[[User:1ted59|1ted59]] 19:58, 9 October 2009 (UTC)--

==More Glitches==
[http://glitchcity.info/glitchdex/?acquire=legit Glitch city's list of "obtainable without Gameshark"].
We have documented most of these, but it seems that there are a few more that we don't have. I'll make some, but if everyone helps it will be easier. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|Snorlax]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|Monster]] 08:25, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

== Gen: V glitch pokemon. ==

I don't have a copy of Black/White and I can't read japanese but I AM intrested in glitch pokemon so if anyone finds anyone please post it on my talk page.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 15:50, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::View your talk page. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 16:10, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

== Bad clone page ==

Ok. We really should have a page for Bad clones. My idea is to first have everyone willing try to get a bad clone on their Gold/Silver/Crystal game and try to get a screenshot. With everyone in project glitchdex I'm positive that within a week or two someone will be able to upload a screenshot.
Here is a new link to the page. [[Bad clone]] The only problem is that we need to get rid of the redirect to the Celibi egg trick...--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:56, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Glitch Pokémon

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Isn't this the exact same thing as [[Glitch]]???? [[Image:Ani234MS.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|MERRY]] [[Image:Ani385MS.gif]] [[User talk:Theryguy512|CHRISTMAS]][[Image:Ani225MS.gif]] 02:17, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

No. A glitch is the general term for an error or programming oversight in a video game. A glitch Pokémon is an error or programming oversight in a Pokémon video game that can be raised, taught attacks, and battled. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 02:19, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:Okey Dokey! [[Image:Ani234MS.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|MERRY]] [[Image:Ani385MS.gif]] [[User talk:Theryguy512|CHRISTMAS]][[Image:Ani225MS.gif]] 11:52, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Glitch Pokémon (In RBY anyway) are not overall harmless--they may corrupt the save file (possibly permanently) upon ''encountering'' them. Capturing them is harmless, some 'dex entries will freeze the game, but the only danger is seeing them in-battle. At least, according to this guide on GameFAQs.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gameboy/file/367023/38434
Any thoughts on this? [[User:Billybobfred|Billybobfred]] 07:26, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, I do have a thought on this. I'm afraid I might get blocked for wording it exactly as it lays out in my mind, though, so here's the general gist of it: The FAQ LIES! Glitch Pokémon are completely HARMLESS! Its the moves some of them can know that do the damage ([[.4]] starting with the move commonly nicknamed {{m|Super Glitch}} has gained it a horrible reputation, given Super Glitch's exceptionally undesirable effect of, worst case scenario, destroying your saved game). Now don't get me wrong, this FAQ is astonishingly knowelegeble on many 1st generation glitches, but the claims that [[MissingNo.|Missingno.]] can destroy the game? Absolutely false, even moreso for [['M]] and everything else. --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]

::Well, it's tecnically the Glithces/Glitch Pokémon that have the moves, so they are dangerous. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 11:50, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, the capslock really convinced me that Gunbladelad's cartridge imploded on its own. Of course glitch Pokemon are 100% harmless. Silly question-- how many times have you encountered one of them on an original cartridge? Just wondering. [[User:Billybobfred|Billybobfred]] 01:54, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

:Me? Multiple times. I have a team on Blue of .4, A, LM4, Missingno., 'M, and h POKé. I have an entire PC box full of Missingno.. I have multiple Kangaskhan, all evolved from 'M. I have ANOTHER .4 rotting away in my PC. And both .4 no longer know Super Glitch, and are level 100, and one of them is one of my main battling Pokémon. And don't forget- RBY are old. These days, although people are no longer so gullible as to swallow this crap without question, RBY cartridges tend to conk out due to old age. Everyone, ask yourselves this; if your Red version deleted itself right after you caught a Tauros, would you run around squawking that Tauros kills games? Didn't think so. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 19:08, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

==Other Glitches?==
I don't know if I should have asked this here, but it seemed like the right place. What about the Glitches that Trainers have when you try to encounter them via Gameshark? There is a way to capture those glitches without the use of the Capture Trainer's Pokémon Code, so should these glitches have pages? --[[User:Boxman|Boxman]] 15:34, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I concur - a bit late. [[User:Mattiuscn|Mattiuscn]] 17:12, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

== Notability criteria, redux ==

Over at [[Bulbapedia_talk:Project_GlitchDex#Notability_criteria|Project GlitchDex]] I recall that we decided that [[Generation I]] glitch Pokémon are "notable" if they can be caught without using a Gameshark, so we kept the number of articles at the 24 listed in the table here. However, recently I'm seeing articles like $ and ...... appear. These glitches cannot be caught in-game without a cheat device. Now, I'm not for deleting them per se, but y'all do realize that there's about a hundred more out there, right? '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' 02:35, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:I would say that those are the only real "glitch Pokémon." They are glitches because the player is not supposed to be able to encounter them throughout normal gameplay. However, anything that requires an Action Replay or similar device is not a glitch pokémon, because the pokémon can not be encountered without cheating. True "glitch pokémon" are the ones from the Mew Glitch and Missingno glitch in gen 1, and the bad egg in gen 4, because apparently they can be encountered in random patches of grass that appear when one is tweaking. To put this in perspective, if I entered a bunch of random numbers/letters into my action replay, started Pokémon Diamond, and the game froze, that would not be a glitch. [[User:Red.Tide|Red.Tide]] 01:27, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

::He did not mean the glitch pokémon encounterable by 'random codes' but simply the Glitch Pokémon that ''do'' have their own index number. Some of those Pokémon have data which is so invalid that they crash the game when encountered via the mew trick or correspond to trainers instead; but they still exist within the game. Take Arceus, he was cheat-only when Diamond and Pearl first came out but he still had an index number and still existed within the game. Like 255-151= 104 glitch Pokémon with actual index numbers diamond and pearl have 65536-493 Pokémon with index numbers but most that don't crash the game are varients of 'blank', DP hybrids or Egg, Bad egg. Surely you could change a Pokémon's name with a code to call it 'Cidoof' but that would technically be bidoof but if you use a party modifier code those glitches you get such as 'O' in Generation I are unique. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 14:20, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

:::I agree. A Glitch Pokémon is one that is found in the game that was not supposed to be there. Those that can not be obtained without a cheating device are still within the code of the game, but they aer not supposed to be there. Ergo, they are glitch Pokémon. [[User:Mattiuscn|Mattiuscn]] 17:33, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Um, I think that there is a DP box for Platinum With a slightly different appearance than on Diamond And Pearl could Someone please help me post it? it has the ability to corrupt data so be carful, you need action replay to find. I believe viewing pokedex Data has potency to freeze game so be careful, thanks. 15:41, 1 October 2009 (UTC) [[User:Tanya3140|Tanya3140]] 11:40,1 October 2009

== Type effectiveness ==

I've been looking through different glitch Pokemon, and I've noticed that the type effectiveness boxes display both the dark and steel types. They are both under normal effectiveness for every Pokemon, regardless of whether they would have affected it otherwise, likely due to the fact that they do not exist in generation 1. Is it necessary to even include them in the list?--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 00:07, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
:Use {{template|RBY Type effectiveness}} instead of the {{template|Type effectiveness}}. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:15, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

== Uh? (Glitch Rhydon) ==
Is it actually a glitchy Rhydon.. or is it a completely different glitch that turns into a Rhydon upon capture (like many other glitch Pokémon)? And if the 8F Glitch's page is being questioned about its notability... well, is this notable? Since I'm assuming it's not actually in the data and is just a random glitch that appears because someone screwed with the memory. :| →''[[User:Tina|'''T'''inā]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 00:40, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:It actually is a glitch rhydon that shows up as a rhydon when fighting it.[[User:1ted59|1ted59]] 19:58, 9 October 2009 (UTC)--

==More Glitches==
[http://glitchcity.info/glitchdex/?acquire=legit Glitch city's list of "obtainable without Gameshark"].
We have documented most of these, but it seems that there are a few more that we don't have. I'll make some, but if everyone helps it will be easier. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|Snorlax]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|Monster]] 08:25, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

== Gen: V glitch pokemon. ==

I don't have a copy of Black/White and I can't read japanese but I AM intrested in glitch pokemon so if anyone finds anyone please post it on my talk page.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 15:50, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::View your talk page. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 16:10, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

== Bad clone page ==

Ok. We really should have a page for Bad clones. My idea is to first have everyone willing try to get a bad clone on their Gold/Silver/Crystal game and try to get a screenshot. With everyone in project glitchdex I'm positive that within a week or two someone will be able to upload a screenshot.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:56, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Here is a new link to the page. [[Bad clone]] The only problem is that we need to get rid of the redirect to the Celibi egg trick...--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:56, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 11

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== Previous discussions ==

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== Pokémon cries? ==
Should we add Pokémon cries to the Pokémon articles?--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's been tried before, but it caused too many problems. It would still probably cause too much problems now.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 20:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10#Pokémon Cries|This has been discussed to death already.]] —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 20:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::We're going to try to get them put in as soon as possible. They've been sitting in a directory on the server for... jeez, at least a year. Last time we tried to put them in, the server exploded. Archaic's been wary of doing it since then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Just out of curiosity, what file format was used for the cries? That may have been the problem.--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::Over at de:, we have mp3 with the following syntax: <nowiki>{{#mp3:http://www.greenchu.de/nakigoe/025.mp3}}</nowiki>. I cannot figure out where that parser functions comes from, though.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] [[User talk:Afrael|talk]] 00:59, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I think having the files like [http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/#music Floatzel.net] have their music files could work well. We might even eventually be able to put route/town/cave music on the pages!--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 04:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Oh would I ''love'' to do that. Too bad Nintendo would '''destroy''' us for doing so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:01, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

== Move Trivia ==

Should there be a trivia section for moves? For instance, only one Pokémon can learn [[Steel Wing]] by leveling up.--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 16:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:There are for some moves, but not all of them have any notable trivia to add, so there is no sub heading. If you think of '''notable''' trivia, then add the sub-heading and put it in. Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 21:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

== Glitch Pokémon ==

Hi there. I remember when I was around nine, I used to play Pokémon Gold & Crystal, and I remember there was this cloning trick that could clone pokémon and the items that they held. Anyways, I began to notice if I did the right trick at a certain time, (or whatever it was, it has been a while) I managed to get a special type of Pokémon, the trainer. The trainer of course, had no moves and therefore could only struggle, but you could use TMs and everything. I remember having fun with that, but I can't find any info on this.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Bublador}} ([[User talk:Bublador|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bublador|contribs]]) ''

Try this page, all of the glitches are on [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Glitches#All_Generations]] and please sign your comment when you use these talk pages. thank you --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 19:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==

I'm just thinking if on every Pokémon's page that we have their Pronunciation somewhere? like this:

Say: Sin-da-qwil

What do you think?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's a good idea, but I believe we've had problems with adding pronunciations in the past because of people not agreeing on the "correct" pronunciation (also, sometimes there are conflicting pronunciations from different official sources) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 07:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Oh oh then. I just though because some Pokémon I can't pronounce their names--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::If you have a look at the source of, say, Bulbasaur's page, you'll see this:
<pre>{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Bulbasaur |
pron=<sc>''bul''-buh-sore</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''.
Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> |
jname=フシギダネ |
tmname=Fushigidane |
</pre>

the "pron=" parameter is not coded into the infobox, so it does appear. But it's there on every Pokemon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 07:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, it's coded in but because of the disagreements on pronunciation and no clear official source for many of them, it was decided to hide them all. If Nintendo or anyone ever releases an official pronunciation guide then we'll be able to put them back up. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Is whatever the pronunciation is in the English dub of the anime (and similarly the pronunciation in the Japanese dub for those not yet released over here) not enough to justify it? With the exception of the odd time where they've actually changed the pronunciation during it e.g. Regice... '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== Artwork?! ==

I hate to be the silly one who starts the "What's going on?!!" discussion, but seriously, why have all the pictures of the Generation I Pokémon been changed to the old Red and Green artwork? Is it for an aniversary or something? [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. Anniversary of RB was yesterday, so Gen I Pokémon got Gen I art. But due to the server cache it took some a while to switch over, and I believe they should all be starting to switch back now, but again, that'll be whenever the server cache gets updated. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 11:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, maybe it could be put on a switch, like with Gastrodon's forms, so it could switch between old and new artwork periodically. How's that sound? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:49, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::That's exactly what it did. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, so it's still in effect? As in, like, permanently? Because that was what I was suggesting. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yes, next year and on certain other days the site will have easter egg effects. Yaaaay for surprises. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::I won't panic when the Gym Leader pictures are replaced by fan art then... [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 11:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Is it the same currently with the Generation II Pokémon and their G/S artwork? [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:16, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Yes. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

== just a though... ==

i realise this is probably in the wrong place, but, as unlocking the generation IV nationaldex and requesting a trade on the GTS require only seeing a particular species of pokémon, would it make sense to include a section explaining where to see them. (and i am aware that the GTS has only around a week left). I know that people (granted they are few) have had problems viewing unown and riolu in DP for example.--[[User:Mr-connor|Mr-connor]] 13:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

:There is a section explaining where to see, and catch, Pokémon. It's right below the Pokédex Entries section.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 13:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

'''TYPHLOSION LV:50
KINDRA LV:50
ALAKAZAM LV:50
LUGIA LV:45
TYRANITAR LV:55
DRAGONITE LV:57'''

this is my current team for pokemon soulsilver...i think it has room for improvement.
[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)brandon strayhorn[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:This isn't the place to put this. Post it on the forums.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbagarden Archives ==

I have a problem that I keep sending the confirmation e-mail like every week but it doesn't show up. I'm saying it here because I haven't confirmed my e-mail on Archives. Someone please help me!!!!!!--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 10:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
:Have you checked it isn't getting caught by the spam filter on your email? Maybe check that the email address is right too? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 10:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks Wardnae, I accidentally wrote the wrong email.--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 23:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
== Sizes on Pokémon pages.. ==

Something that's been bugging me for a while. I've been manually going around and resizing the main art boxes at the top of each Pokémon page so they all match each other and look uniform. However, many times box sizes will still be off by a few pixels. Would there be anyway to code something that keeps them all the same size? [http://i54.tinypic.com/28rcc53.png] is an example of what Ii'm talking about. Basically, the box that surrounds the art.~★ '''[[User:Cubic Question|''cubic'']][[User talk:Cubic Question|''QUESTION'']]''' 13:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
:Even if you make the width a certain size, the length will be different according to the size of the art. To get it uniform, you would have to make every file have some whitespace so it would be the same size. That won't happen though. The boxes don't really need to be uniform in size. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 20:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

== Litsen... ==

First of all, I have a idea of a section in the pokemon's main page. Footprint. It'll be good. also, the Pronunciation topic above^^. We can take Right pronunciation from [http://pokemon.wikia.com/ Pokemon Wiki]. I know its cheating, but, Ill help us. --[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:The footprint is already in each Pokémon's infobox. And, we already discussed that the pronunciation caused conflict, and the Pokémon Wiki is far from a reliable source. So we probably won't be adding the pronunciation to each's Pokémon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 11:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::By the way I think you were trying to say Listen not Litsen?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, Pronunciation is what admins can do when the wiki lets locked. also, wouldn't they need help adding 150 and more pokemon?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Pronunciation is conflicting. It isn't just hard work. For example, Bonsly was pronounced with an ē once, then with an ī in another time. One was in the movie, the other in the anime, I've just forgotten which. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 11:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh Really? We All Know That Charmander is pronounced ''Chaar-man-der''. Easy Enough?? Just search on google for pokemon pronunciation.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, no Google searching, thanks. The official sources (Official Handbooks, Anime, and Video Games) don't always agree on pronunciations of Pokémon names. Now, if the official sources all agree at one point, then we will add them. But until then, they're not going on the species pages. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 12:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay Then. Moving to the next topic. What About Something at the Top of The Pokemon pics To Change the Picture into other generation art or to a Different form?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:Most form changing Pokémon have their forms rotated based on the current time (see {{p|Arceus}}, then refresh the page). As for different generations, the infoboxes are set to display it on certain days—for example, on the anniversary of Red and Blue the Pokémon pages displayed their Red and Blue artwork (for those that have it). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Doesn't look like the servers are being nice ==

No, I'm not geting 504s (or, if I am, FireFox is hiding them); I'm getting something even worse: pages not loading at all. A couple of days ago, I was going to come here to get a small amount of information, and it took ages to do so (so long in fact that I just got it O_O). I think the servers are being overstressed - despite the fact that I was getting good ping times off of 10 pings to the site's router (if there is one), I couldn't load any pages - not even robots.txt! That is just a simple text document, and it wouldn't even load! I would start the lockdown soon, as the closer to release we get, the more activity we are likely to get.

I consider myself lucky I could even get on right now. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 06:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:The fifth generation Pokemon are invading Bulbapedia and interfering with the system! I haven't actually noticed any problems yet though, which is strange. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:38, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Finally! ==

as i mentioned Form changing above, We can use A method for pokemon with 2 different forms like giratina and shellos

Method: All you guys saw Avatar, Everyone Saw. Now See The [http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com Avatar Wiki]'s Jake Sully Article. There is a button below the pic to change the Picture into Human/Avatar. We can use that Method.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 16:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:That's a really good idea actually, I think it would be better than the Pokemon's form just changing periodically. Perhaps now Bulbapedia is being upgraded for the fifth generation, it would be a convenient time for recoding the articles. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::I dunno. Shaymin is also two formes, and changes with time. Shellos and Giratina, by the way, are not random. It's based on the hours. And unfortunately, that just changes the infobox picture; there are '''''several''''' things that change for forme changers. Unless your Ground-type moves miss against Altered Forme Giratina. What's that? They don't? But you can only use Earthquake five times? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Wikimon has a more extensive one that allows you to toggle the whole box, for example in the [http://wikimon.net/Agumon Agumon article], click the tabs. It even integrates the table of contents into it. Pretty clever. - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 04:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::::see, only arceus has several things that needed to be changed. what about others?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 07:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::What about Mebukijika and Genesect (yes, Genesect has other formes (I think five or six?)) [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

:I also support the toggle idea. By the way, it has been mentioned in Arbok's Pokédex entries that it has at least six different patterns, of which two have appeared in official game art. Maybe it would be worthwhile to also toggle these two the same way? --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::I say we just stick with actual forme changes, and not include design differences between canons. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 14:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== Metric tags in Pokédex entries ==
All pokedex entries use the imperial units of measurement from the US translation. I suggest adding tags with the metric counterparts for two reasons:

1 - the original Japanese entries use metric units, so it could be seen as "more canon".

2 - there are international users of Bulbapedia (me included) that are not used to imperial units.

For example, the final sentence in Magneton's entry in Yellow could be: ''It raises the temperature by {{tt|3.6F degrees|2°C}} within {{tt|3,300 feet|1 km}}.''

If the staff agrees, I'm willing to go through all Pokedex entries and add the metric values. I know enough Japanese to easily get the official values from the pokedex entries listed on the Japanese wiki, assuming those are correct.

--[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:Metric system seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to include, it's merely a big job to go through ''everything'' and add the metric equivalent. Perhaps starting small, with say the Pokémon infobox only for now, and work our way up (every infobox should list the Pokémon's height and weight, so it's the most prominent use of the imperial system). Pokédex entries are also pretty simple, but I'd also say they're the less important area to work on (no complaints if you want to fix them all yourself, however). --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 11:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

::Each Pokemon already have both their imperial and metric height and weight listed in their infobox, except for Generation 5, because their imperial values are not yet officially known. So pokedex entries are the most important area left to work on, as far as I can see. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 13:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:::Unless someone else has a big complaint about it, I don't see why you can't go ahead and update those, in that case. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 14:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

::::I have done 101 out of 493 for now. I may have missed a few in scanning all those entries. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 23:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== Question? ==

The option to write in the discussion for the Pokemon Black and White Versions isn't there. Are we not aloud to write there? --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 21:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, but only if you're autoconfirmed, meaning you've been registered for a certain amount of time and have made a certain number of edits.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::OK thanks --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 22:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::What is the amount of time and important edits? [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== 3D Artwork ==

This is something that's been on my mind for a while now, but I couldn't bring it up due to the lockdown. Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to possibly include 3D images of Pokémon and Pokémon moves, like what's done for anime? It could be done in a seperate section or sub-section of the articles. Oh, and I don't mean updating every time a new 3D game comes out; I mean adding images for each time a move or Pokémon has appeared in a 3D game, like images of Pidgeot from its appearances in Pokémon Stadium through Pokémon Battle Revolution. I don't know if this has been brought up before, but is this notion a good idea?--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 00:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:Although i don't know much, but taking 3D Pics will be hard and i don't think its a very good idea.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, I don't quite know how it's done, but you don't take 3D pics by using a camera or something. The quality of the 3D images here prove that.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 15:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== Lylat Wiki ==

[http://starfoxwiki.org/Lylat_Wiki Lylat Wiki] is now a part of NIWA, Oct 8th and 15th two others will be added, so might wanna add that to your NIWA bar ;] [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 17:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Main page design ==

Does no one else think Tsutarja is missing?
We have Bulbasaur, Treecko, Chikorita and Turtwig pics on the main page, but no Tsutarja (or victini if you want the first pokémon in the dex) I can feel it's absence when I look at the page. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 19:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:main page uses animated minisprites. we dont have Gen V animated minisprites. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I can ''Make'' Them Animate. but it wont we official, and Archives are currently blocked.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 20:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I see. That's a little worrying because they're not animated on my screen. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 17:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::What browser are you running? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::on chrome and IE they don't work, only firefox. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 12:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::I've heard that they also work on Opera. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Actually,there is a Tsutarja animated sprite Bulbagarden Archives, but there's no space for it. However, a Victini sprite has also been uploaded. [[User:Jlin8002|Jlin8002]] 00:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Jlin8002

== Shiny Gen V Sprites ==

I would like to know where we are going to put the shiny sprites for the fifth generation Pokémon. I have the sprites (official). [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:We have them, however we have yet to upload them. I guess I could do them today. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 11:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== Translations ==

This is a big job, and would probably be a bad idea, but could we translate Bulbapedia into other languages? I know that we already have basic translations of Pokémon and Moves, but what about the rest of it?----[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalk]][[User talk:Chalkwriter|writer]] 18:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:May I direct your attention [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis|here]] ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 18:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== Clearer distinction between "natural" and Dream World abilities. ==

I think the distinction between pokémon that only have certain abilities through the Pokémon Dream World and those that don't can be made clearer. For example, on pages of separate abilities there is just one table with normal and PDW pokémon all mixed up, while it would be easier to make separate tables for both. I think this would help both users that own Pokémon Black or White and those that don't. Besides that we could also make a category for "Abilities exclusive to Pokémon Dream World", like {{a|Harvest}}. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 00:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
:On the separate pages, they are specfically listed in a separate column that says "Dream World ability". That seems separate enough. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, but I think it would be easier if for example you are looking for a pokémon that has a certain ability, that you don't have to go through a list of which half of the pokémon are Dream World pokémon. Even for Dream World users like me pokémon in wild and in Dream World are two completely separate things. But yeah, it's not that necessary. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

== Grammar error ==

Being the Grammar Nazi I am, I have spotted an error I can't fix. I accidentally got logged out while editing a userpage, and I noticed there is a lack of space between sentences on the message that explains that new users cannot edit userpages. This is really bothering me, so could anyone with the power to edit the MediaWiki namespace fix it? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
:Done, I think. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

== Update on Message to the Editor ==

[[Template:Main Page/Message from the Editor|'''This''']] should be updated, no? I think people would like to know it's been unlocked [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 02:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
: Very true, its more that a month old [[User:Ruberduck0123|'''Ruber''']][[User talk:Ruberduck0123|'''duck''']][[Special:Contributions/Ruberduck0123|'''0123''']] 07:00, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
::It doesn't matter if it's five months old, he edits it when they have an announcement to make, he doesn't have to update it once a month people!! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 13:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbanews ==

I have a question : Can only staff members report news to bulbanews or can normal users also report --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 15:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Bulbanews is a different wiki altogether. Though they're both part of Bulbagarden, both Bulbapedia and Bulbanews have their own front pages. The information you're looking for is on Bulbanews's front page and if you have any other questions about it, it'd make sense to ask on that talk page rather than this one. [[n:Front page|here's a link, for convenience]] [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 20:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:What Kanjo said is correct, but to answer your question, anyone is allowed to report news to Bulbanews. After submission, an admin or columnist needs to move it out of the draft namespace and into the mainspace. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== Zoroark's Name ==

I think the Ark in its name could be cause it can transform into lots of pokemon like an ark of pokemon and the reason i posted it here cause i cant post it on Zoroark's article . --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 16:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:First of all, if you can't post in an article, inquire in the article's talk page (i.e. [[Talk:Zoroark (Pokémon)]]), not Talk: Main Page. Secondly, that's a real stretch: that's not an actual definition of the word ark, it's just a vague metaphor. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 21:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Before you ask ==

Read the news. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

:Is it for the Japanese anime writer? If so, I suppose Chimecho is more appropriate than Lugia, considering how the little windchime links to places like Mt. Pyre and Sendoff Spring. It can be in greyscale if desired. Besides, what is more favourable aesthetically is that one may include Chingling too, instead of Lugia all over the place. [[User:Rxhar|Rxhar]] 09:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

::It's Lugia because the man is credited with helping to create it. It was on the news post. [[User:Tamah|Tamah]] 23:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

:::Well, it was more than a week by now, someone could remember me who edits the main page? --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 16:14, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

== What'd I do wrong here? ==

[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Starck]]

... What happened? [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
:Just create a page with <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki>.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 13:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

==EV Listings==

I was just thinking of a very useful idea. On the pages for each route, cave, etc, where the wild Pokémon are listen, I was thinking we should add another column after each Pokémon and say "1 Speed," or "2 Attack," or something. That, paired with encounter and level rates would help a great deal in EV training for all different levels. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
:Well, I admit, this would be useful to some people, but this is an encyclopedia, not a walkthrough. Honestly, I don't see why you can't go to the Pokémon's page and check. I'm not for it, but I'm not exactly saying NO. --[[User:Si6x12|'''Si6''']][[User Talk:Si6x12|'''x12''']] 03:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::I agree completely, however, it would be a nice little touch on the page for convenience. I'm not one of them, but I know some people have incredibly slow computers, and I can easily imagine the frustration of those who have slow connections along with a desire to EV train. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 14:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm thinking no, but I do see a use in it. Perhaps {{bp|Project Walkthroughs}} would be a good place to ask. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Putting every possible bit of information is dumb. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:04, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::But that's not what we'd be doing now, is it? We wouldn't be putting their number, or Dex color, or Egg group, or anything like that, just the EV(s) they give. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::The number should already be there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:50, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::::No, I'm talking about on the route pages. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::::Don't make me go on a rant about users and clicking links. If you plan to EV train, then just look up the Pokémon that give EVs in whatever. We're an encyclopedia, not an EV training guide. Do some of your own research, dude. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:15, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::This isn't at all a matter of laziness. Heck, I'd be willing to go around and do a ton of the work, assuming I could figure out how to code it (which I can't) It's just a nice touch of convenience for users, you know? I mean, I'm fine if we don't do it, it's just a suggestion, after all. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 04:39, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

== Redirection Pages ==

Do we really need those redirection pages with one Pokémon used by a character, the TCG link, and the Pokémon link? We already have the Pokémon used by a character and it's TCG links on the page. I understand the ones for like Pikachu, but ones like Mr. Mime and Gengar don't need to be there, do they? [[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 03:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
:This is already being discussed on the forums, so please be patient. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 03:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
::And how soon do we delete {{template|p}}, which I'm sure you all want. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== What to do with Dream World artwork. ==

Currently we use some to replace the Sugimori artwork, but what to do when said artwork is avaiable?. Sincerely i thing it would be a waste to just leave the DW artwork floating alone. Do you agree? We should do something with it.
--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:06, 15 November 2010 (UTC) Sorry, forgot signature
:It would be a waste. Also, how come we don't put up the old artwork on the Pokémon's page? It seems a waste not to include it on the page (especially when some trivia refers to it). [[User:Tesh|Teshigigas]] [[User_talk:Tesh|[Talk]]] 18:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::Old artwork '''''is''''' on the pages, they just change from time to time [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:36, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
:::not really, Ataro. we are going to find a use for the images, but as of late weve had other things to focus on. rest assured, it will be showcased somewhere and in some way. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:01, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::::/me keeps reading the "In the Games" sections of pages (hint). [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 00:47, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::Over at [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Main_Page Zelda wiki]they use a code of sorts that makes a picture change every time you refresh the page. It seemed to use a template called <nowiki>{{RandomLinkImage}}</nowiki> for [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Link this page]. I think I've seen simeler on userpages. It varied page to page. --[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 20:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe each Pokemon's page can feature a gallery of their art from all games. Just a random thought. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 21:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
::Eventually. There's always an issue with doing that though. And that is how many damned exceptions there are. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:13, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Um, doesn't each Pokémon page link to a gallery anyway? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:00, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Em, we could show the artwork in the pages for "special" cases, like ivysaur. Ivysaur has purple colored eyes in the anime and Dream World--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 22:44, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Trading pre-Unova ==

Some pokemon such as [[Bulbasaur]] say that you have to "trade" to get the Pokémon when you actually have to get it through Pokéshift, Dream World, or both? When are we going to change this? —[[User:Zekasaur|♫Ze]][[User talk:Zekasaur|kas]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|aur♫]] 03:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
:It will likely be changed as soon as someone enters that specific information into the tables. If I recall correctly, the template defaults to saying "trade" if no data is entered. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 04:58, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

== Preview ==
You know how it seems that everyone forgets to use the preview when they first come on? Well on NWiki, they have something that makes you show preview, and I was wondering if we could use that here. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 01:30, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:I actually find that incredibly annoying on NWiki. If you are going around making minor edits, such as relinking, it just gets in the way. I'm pretty sure there is an option here to turn it on in preferences if you like it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== File:Ani586WMS.png not displaying ==

Could someone work on this? The file [[a:File:Ani586WMS.png]] isn't showing up on the main page. I checked the Archives and found that the filename is correct, but somehow or another it isn't working. Thanks. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' ''(my [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/Chiefboz|contributions]])'' 15:44, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
:There is nothing that can be done about this. It is just the archives not synchronizing with Bulbapedia. All we can do is wait for it to fix itself. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:28, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hopefully before Christmas...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 03:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:::It was actually displaying when MAGNEDETH added it. It fitted in nicely too... --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::::It seems to be working now. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 17:25, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon SIENNA??? Why do we have NOTHING on this? See video ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQqH2HV7p10&feature=watch_response

I had no idea there was such a thing as a Sienna version of this!! Please, add the article: {{red link|Pokemon Sienna}}. Thanks! --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:27, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe on [[hack games]]. But it probably isn't notable enough. Take it up on the talk page there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:You couls add it to {{red link|rom hacks}}{{unsigned|Ent3r}}
::No. That page does not and will not exist. The correct page is [[hack games]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:57, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
:::On the record, we only add really famous hack games to the [[hack games]] article. I've never heard of this one personally, so it probably doesn't need to be mentioned. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:06, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

== "Pokemon Apokelypse" ==

Anyone seen this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDX1m0Y2Vkg&feature=watch_response_rev

Looks like we don't have an article on it either. Why doesn't anyone create something about this? --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:[[User:ShinyPikachu/Pokémon Apokélypse]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

There shouldn't be a page because its fan made. If it were a real Pokémon movie, then there should be a page. Although, I have to admit, it is pretty awesome and would make a cool movie for older Pokémon fans. [[User:Gryffindor1991|Gryffindor1991]] 23:33, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

== Did you know section: "...the typing of the first Unova Gym Leader is depend''a''nt..." ==

Shouldn't that read "depend'''e'''nt"? The spelling that currently appears on the Main Page isn't really accepted in American or British English. [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 19:07, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:Fixed. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

== A search bar? ==

Has Bulbapedia ever considered having a bar that would be used similar to the Google toolbar? It could have a place to search for an article on Bulbapedia, maybe even have a link to the home page, recent changes, bulbawiki forum, the archives, etc. This would mean easy access to not just the wiki, but so that people with the toolbar could get to a specific pafe faster as well! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:16, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:You mean a Bulbapedia Toolbar for a browser? That's something to think about, I guess. Maybe a Firefox addon or something. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
::Yes. That's what I meant. I'm not sure if it is even possible but if it was it would be very useful for viewing and editing Bulbapedia. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 03:34, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I would recommend bringing this up on the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 BulbaWiki forum]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:47, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
I thought there already was a search bar on the bulbagarden main page?
::::Yeah there's one on the main page but it's not accurate like google--[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 22:03, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Try [[Bulbapedia Search Bar Plugin]]. Anyone know how to program? '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 04:45, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Countdown ==

Are we going to have a countdown for the NA release of Black and White? →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:54, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
:Why not. I think it's traditional to keep the Christmas garb up until January 5th, so we can change the colorscheme then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:46, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
::Well can we change the color scheme now?--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:46, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Yep. We do it all the time. If look in the hidden code of [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page&action=edit Template:Main Page], you can see all the alternate ones. Try previewing them on a different page (you won't be able to preview them on Template:Main Page because it is protected). So now that it's the sixth, I guess someone needs to change the colorscheme (I think trom wanted to change to the BW one). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:55, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Klink swap. ==

How in the world did everyone switch giaru with klink so FAST? If anyone thinks this is a funny comment I am a new user--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 01:46, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:Many users, and [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Giaru (Pokémon)]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:18, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::A. It was 3 whole days ago. B. Not many names were revealed. C. The names aren't linked in many places, so it is quick to change them. D. There are tons of people who are available 24/7 to change things as soon as possible. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:28, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:::That would mean at LEAST one hundred users in each time zone! Just HOW many people do we have!--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 18:15, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

== WHAT HAPPENED?!?! ==

WHAT HAPPENED TO BULBAPEDIA?!?!?!--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 04:48, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
:Nevermind. It's all good now.--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 04:49, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
...What did happen? --'''[[User:Flyingtypefan|~~☆Flyingtypefan☆~~]]''' '''''•[[User talk:Flyingtypefan|Talk]]•''''' '''''[[Delibird (Pokemon)|Holiday cheer]]•''''' 01:32, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== TCG Proposal ==

While looking at some cards from [[Undaunted]], I came across Hariyama. So I clicked it, and the hue was WAY too bright. Could we adopt a darker color for Fighting type pokemon? [[User:TheTheDragon14|TheTheDragon14]] 23:39, 3 January 2011 (UTC)TheTheDragon14
:Specifically [[Hariyama (Undaunted 14)|this card]]? Yes, I agree. It is a bit bright. I suggest you take this to {{bp|Project TCG}}. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 23:57, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

== Log Out ==

I was changing my signature recently and nearly every time I pressed save I got logged out! What's happening? —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 08:42, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
:I am being ignored. Someone help me! —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 10:29, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::I believe the server is having some problems at the moment. See [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=39109&page=18 here] for a little more information. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

== Animated G5 Sprites... ==

Would it be possible to put in the full, animated versions of the sprites from Generation 5? Generation 2 and 3 sprites are animated... I was also wondering if this would just be too much trouble or would overload the server. You can find the sprites [http://www.arkeis.com/animatedsprites.html/ here.] (good website, I think that they're all accurate. Whoever made it did an awesome job). Also, those sprites wouldn't have to be used, it's just the resource that I found. the files are .gif files... Thanks!!! [[User:Bapplesauce|Bapplesauce]] 02:51, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:Some of the BW sprites are animated PNGs. We don't want to use GIFs for Generation IV and V sprites. You have to have Firefox in order to see the animation because some browsers don't support it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:57, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
::Oh, that's right- I always used to find some other animated images on here that wouldn't animate... Okay. Well, if anyone finds another way... or can get more animated PNGs... thanks. [[User:Bapplesauce|Bapplesauce]] 03:40, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Just so you know, you don't have to have Firefox; Opera works as well. However, I think those are the only major browsers that support APNG (IE and Chrome don't, I don't know about Safari). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:52, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

==Redirect problem==
[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:DoubleRedirects&limit=500&offset=0 O_O]. Uh, were these supposed to redirect to SmashWiki? Interwiki table prob? '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|--Havoc]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|48]]''''' 01:14, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:I saw that too! I was confused. →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::Yes the were. It comes with the NIWA affiliation. Unfortunately I'm not sure if there's a way to "fix" these redirects so that they don't appear on that page. It's not a problem though. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 01:25, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:::They do work perfectly fine, but they just fill up that special page. It is a problem with the MediaWiki software. And for the record, only some redirect to SmashWiki; Mario goes to Mario Wiki, Kirby goes to WiKirby etc. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:44, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

==Countdown==
Don't know if anyone agrees with me but shouldn't the countdown be changed to the date of the European release considering it's the first English release of B+W?

Edit - Sorry forgot to sign --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 21:21, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
:Yes, it should. And since it's been confirmed, it now does. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:29, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

I think it should be the north american one.Wasent it that way with platinum?[[User:KylleyFab4Fan|KylleyFab4Fan]] 23:15, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:The European date is the closest thing we have to the English release, I don't know what's wrong with that. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 23:18, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
::To clarify what Jello said, the date we use for the countdown is the ''first'' official ''English'' release date. For Platinum it was the North American date, as the North American date was before the European date. For Black and White the European date is first, so we are counting down to that date. If, by some chance, the next main series game(s) is/are released in Australia and New Zealand first (I wish), then we will count down to that date instead. There will be no preference for one English-speaking location over another. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:48, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Would putting up multiple countdowns overload the server?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 18:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
::::I don't think that's what Werdnae meant. I think he meant just changing the one countdown to reflect the first official English release date. --[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 20:52, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Ah, I get it now.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::Yes, I was actually meaning changing the existing one (even if only once it had expired). However the same applies for multiple countdowns. The bigger issue (bigger than the server load) is that if we are going to have more than one countdown, we must then include a countdown for ''every'' English release, since we aren't being biased towards any one region. So we would probably end up with five or six, rather than two, and that would be too many. Not server-load too many, although it could prove problematic, but too many space-wise on the main page. If you wish to put your own countdown on your userpage, I remember seeing a template for it floating around in someone's userspace.

::::::The reason we are doing the first English release, rather than the American release, it that this is an Engligh-language site, rather than a specifically North American site. Although the servers are in the US, our webmaster, Archaic, lives in Australia. To make a special case for the North American release would appear as a great big insult to all our non-American users, since we've never done anything like that for the European release when it was second. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

:::::::Not to mention the fact that this ''is'' the first time that the European release date is before the North American one.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:02, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon of the Week ==

We most make a Pokemon of the Week column. Almost every site makes one.
I`m sorry i didn`t sign. --Other help is what i can do. 16:56, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:First of all, I'm not sure that we need one. We already have the Featured Article, or at least SHOULD have (I think the countdown is supressing it). Additionally, [[User:Nazirbashir|Nazirbashir]], make sure that your signature contains a link to your User page, like this: [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 02:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC) (it's part of the [[Bulbapedia:Signature_policy|policy]])
::just because other sites do something doesnt mean we should. i guess you could say our "Origin of Species" is similar to a PotW, only better. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 05:36, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

== Save page error ==

I just don't get this. Every once in a while when I try to save an edit, the website says "This page is restricted to the following" even though I am a user--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:It's probably a session loss error, causing it to behave as if you were logged out. If clicking back and trying again doesn't fix it, then logging out and then back in again should. The tech people are aware of the problem, but haven't yet been able to find what's causing it so they can fix it. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

::It's not a big problem for me. I just wanted to see if anyone else had this issue.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:04, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 11

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Celibi25: /* Countdown */

Talk:Main Page/Archive 11

2011-01-22T02:16:36Z

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This is the {{bp|talk page}} for the Bulbapedia's front page. If you have a general comment about the wiki, please consider placing it in [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 our forum].'''

== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10|Archive 10]]

== Pokémon cries? ==
Should we add Pokémon cries to the Pokémon articles?--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's been tried before, but it caused too many problems. It would still probably cause too much problems now.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 20:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10#Pokémon Cries|This has been discussed to death already.]] —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 20:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::We're going to try to get them put in as soon as possible. They've been sitting in a directory on the server for... jeez, at least a year. Last time we tried to put them in, the server exploded. Archaic's been wary of doing it since then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Just out of curiosity, what file format was used for the cries? That may have been the problem.--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::Over at de:, we have mp3 with the following syntax: <nowiki>{{#mp3:http://www.greenchu.de/nakigoe/025.mp3}}</nowiki>. I cannot figure out where that parser functions comes from, though.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] [[User talk:Afrael|talk]] 00:59, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I think having the files like [http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/#music Floatzel.net] have their music files could work well. We might even eventually be able to put route/town/cave music on the pages!--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 04:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Oh would I ''love'' to do that. Too bad Nintendo would '''destroy''' us for doing so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:01, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

== Move Trivia ==

Should there be a trivia section for moves? For instance, only one Pokémon can learn [[Steel Wing]] by leveling up.--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 16:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:There are for some moves, but not all of them have any notable trivia to add, so there is no sub heading. If you think of '''notable''' trivia, then add the sub-heading and put it in. Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 21:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

== Glitch Pokémon ==

Hi there. I remember when I was around nine, I used to play Pokémon Gold & Crystal, and I remember there was this cloning trick that could clone pokémon and the items that they held. Anyways, I began to notice if I did the right trick at a certain time, (or whatever it was, it has been a while) I managed to get a special type of Pokémon, the trainer. The trainer of course, had no moves and therefore could only struggle, but you could use TMs and everything. I remember having fun with that, but I can't find any info on this.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Bublador}} ([[User talk:Bublador|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bublador|contribs]]) ''

Try this page, all of the glitches are on [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Glitches#All_Generations]] and please sign your comment when you use these talk pages. thank you --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 19:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==

I'm just thinking if on every Pokémon's page that we have their Pronunciation somewhere? like this:

Say: Sin-da-qwil

What do you think?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's a good idea, but I believe we've had problems with adding pronunciations in the past because of people not agreeing on the "correct" pronunciation (also, sometimes there are conflicting pronunciations from different official sources) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 07:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Oh oh then. I just though because some Pokémon I can't pronounce their names--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::If you have a look at the source of, say, Bulbasaur's page, you'll see this:
<pre>{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Bulbasaur |
pron=<sc>''bul''-buh-sore</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''.
Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> |
jname=フシギダネ |
tmname=Fushigidane |
</pre>

the "pron=" parameter is not coded into the infobox, so it does appear. But it's there on every Pokemon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 07:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, it's coded in but because of the disagreements on pronunciation and no clear official source for many of them, it was decided to hide them all. If Nintendo or anyone ever releases an official pronunciation guide then we'll be able to put them back up. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Is whatever the pronunciation is in the English dub of the anime (and similarly the pronunciation in the Japanese dub for those not yet released over here) not enough to justify it? With the exception of the odd time where they've actually changed the pronunciation during it e.g. Regice... '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== Artwork?! ==

I hate to be the silly one who starts the "What's going on?!!" discussion, but seriously, why have all the pictures of the Generation I Pokémon been changed to the old Red and Green artwork? Is it for an aniversary or something? [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. Anniversary of RB was yesterday, so Gen I Pokémon got Gen I art. But due to the server cache it took some a while to switch over, and I believe they should all be starting to switch back now, but again, that'll be whenever the server cache gets updated. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 11:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, maybe it could be put on a switch, like with Gastrodon's forms, so it could switch between old and new artwork periodically. How's that sound? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:49, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::That's exactly what it did. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, so it's still in effect? As in, like, permanently? Because that was what I was suggesting. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yes, next year and on certain other days the site will have easter egg effects. Yaaaay for surprises. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::I won't panic when the Gym Leader pictures are replaced by fan art then... [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 11:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Is it the same currently with the Generation II Pokémon and their G/S artwork? [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:16, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Yes. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

== just a though... ==

i realise this is probably in the wrong place, but, as unlocking the generation IV nationaldex and requesting a trade on the GTS require only seeing a particular species of pokémon, would it make sense to include a section explaining where to see them. (and i am aware that the GTS has only around a week left). I know that people (granted they are few) have had problems viewing unown and riolu in DP for example.--[[User:Mr-connor|Mr-connor]] 13:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

:There is a section explaining where to see, and catch, Pokémon. It's right below the Pokédex Entries section.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 13:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

'''TYPHLOSION LV:50
KINDRA LV:50
ALAKAZAM LV:50
LUGIA LV:45
TYRANITAR LV:55
DRAGONITE LV:57'''

this is my current team for pokemon soulsilver...i think it has room for improvement.
[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)brandon strayhorn[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:This isn't the place to put this. Post it on the forums.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbagarden Archives ==

I have a problem that I keep sending the confirmation e-mail like every week but it doesn't show up. I'm saying it here because I haven't confirmed my e-mail on Archives. Someone please help me!!!!!!--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 10:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
:Have you checked it isn't getting caught by the spam filter on your email? Maybe check that the email address is right too? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 10:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks Wardnae, I accidentally wrote the wrong email.--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 23:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
== Sizes on Pokémon pages.. ==

Something that's been bugging me for a while. I've been manually going around and resizing the main art boxes at the top of each Pokémon page so they all match each other and look uniform. However, many times box sizes will still be off by a few pixels. Would there be anyway to code something that keeps them all the same size? [http://i54.tinypic.com/28rcc53.png] is an example of what Ii'm talking about. Basically, the box that surrounds the art.~★ '''[[User:Cubic Question|''cubic'']][[User talk:Cubic Question|''QUESTION'']]''' 13:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
:Even if you make the width a certain size, the length will be different according to the size of the art. To get it uniform, you would have to make every file have some whitespace so it would be the same size. That won't happen though. The boxes don't really need to be uniform in size. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 20:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

== Litsen... ==

First of all, I have a idea of a section in the pokemon's main page. Footprint. It'll be good. also, the Pronunciation topic above^^. We can take Right pronunciation from [http://pokemon.wikia.com/ Pokemon Wiki]. I know its cheating, but, Ill help us. --[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:The footprint is already in each Pokémon's infobox. And, we already discussed that the pronunciation caused conflict, and the Pokémon Wiki is far from a reliable source. So we probably won't be adding the pronunciation to each's Pokémon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 11:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::By the way I think you were trying to say Listen not Litsen?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, Pronunciation is what admins can do when the wiki lets locked. also, wouldn't they need help adding 150 and more pokemon?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Pronunciation is conflicting. It isn't just hard work. For example, Bonsly was pronounced with an ē once, then with an ī in another time. One was in the movie, the other in the anime, I've just forgotten which. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 11:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh Really? We All Know That Charmander is pronounced ''Chaar-man-der''. Easy Enough?? Just search on google for pokemon pronunciation.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, no Google searching, thanks. The official sources (Official Handbooks, Anime, and Video Games) don't always agree on pronunciations of Pokémon names. Now, if the official sources all agree at one point, then we will add them. But until then, they're not going on the species pages. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 12:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay Then. Moving to the next topic. What About Something at the Top of The Pokemon pics To Change the Picture into other generation art or to a Different form?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:Most form changing Pokémon have their forms rotated based on the current time (see {{p|Arceus}}, then refresh the page). As for different generations, the infoboxes are set to display it on certain days—for example, on the anniversary of Red and Blue the Pokémon pages displayed their Red and Blue artwork (for those that have it). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Doesn't look like the servers are being nice ==

No, I'm not geting 504s (or, if I am, FireFox is hiding them); I'm getting something even worse: pages not loading at all. A couple of days ago, I was going to come here to get a small amount of information, and it took ages to do so (so long in fact that I just got it O_O). I think the servers are being overstressed - despite the fact that I was getting good ping times off of 10 pings to the site's router (if there is one), I couldn't load any pages - not even robots.txt! That is just a simple text document, and it wouldn't even load! I would start the lockdown soon, as the closer to release we get, the more activity we are likely to get.

I consider myself lucky I could even get on right now. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 06:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:The fifth generation Pokemon are invading Bulbapedia and interfering with the system! I haven't actually noticed any problems yet though, which is strange. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:38, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Finally! ==

as i mentioned Form changing above, We can use A method for pokemon with 2 different forms like giratina and shellos

Method: All you guys saw Avatar, Everyone Saw. Now See The [http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com Avatar Wiki]'s Jake Sully Article. There is a button below the pic to change the Picture into Human/Avatar. We can use that Method.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 16:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:That's a really good idea actually, I think it would be better than the Pokemon's form just changing periodically. Perhaps now Bulbapedia is being upgraded for the fifth generation, it would be a convenient time for recoding the articles. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::I dunno. Shaymin is also two formes, and changes with time. Shellos and Giratina, by the way, are not random. It's based on the hours. And unfortunately, that just changes the infobox picture; there are '''''several''''' things that change for forme changers. Unless your Ground-type moves miss against Altered Forme Giratina. What's that? They don't? But you can only use Earthquake five times? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Wikimon has a more extensive one that allows you to toggle the whole box, for example in the [http://wikimon.net/Agumon Agumon article], click the tabs. It even integrates the table of contents into it. Pretty clever. - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 04:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::::see, only arceus has several things that needed to be changed. what about others?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 07:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::What about Mebukijika and Genesect (yes, Genesect has other formes (I think five or six?)) [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

:I also support the toggle idea. By the way, it has been mentioned in Arbok's Pokédex entries that it has at least six different patterns, of which two have appeared in official game art. Maybe it would be worthwhile to also toggle these two the same way? --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::I say we just stick with actual forme changes, and not include design differences between canons. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 14:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== Metric tags in Pokédex entries ==
All pokedex entries use the imperial units of measurement from the US translation. I suggest adding tags with the metric counterparts for two reasons:

1 - the original Japanese entries use metric units, so it could be seen as "more canon".

2 - there are international users of Bulbapedia (me included) that are not used to imperial units.

For example, the final sentence in Magneton's entry in Yellow could be: ''It raises the temperature by {{tt|3.6F degrees|2°C}} within {{tt|3,300 feet|1 km}}.''

If the staff agrees, I'm willing to go through all Pokedex entries and add the metric values. I know enough Japanese to easily get the official values from the pokedex entries listed on the Japanese wiki, assuming those are correct.

--[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:Metric system seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to include, it's merely a big job to go through ''everything'' and add the metric equivalent. Perhaps starting small, with say the Pokémon infobox only for now, and work our way up (every infobox should list the Pokémon's height and weight, so it's the most prominent use of the imperial system). Pokédex entries are also pretty simple, but I'd also say they're the less important area to work on (no complaints if you want to fix them all yourself, however). --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 11:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

::Each Pokemon already have both their imperial and metric height and weight listed in their infobox, except for Generation 5, because their imperial values are not yet officially known. So pokedex entries are the most important area left to work on, as far as I can see. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 13:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:::Unless someone else has a big complaint about it, I don't see why you can't go ahead and update those, in that case. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 14:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

::::I have done 101 out of 493 for now. I may have missed a few in scanning all those entries. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 23:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== Question? ==

The option to write in the discussion for the Pokemon Black and White Versions isn't there. Are we not aloud to write there? --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 21:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, but only if you're autoconfirmed, meaning you've been registered for a certain amount of time and have made a certain number of edits.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::OK thanks --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 22:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::What is the amount of time and important edits? [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== 3D Artwork ==

This is something that's been on my mind for a while now, but I couldn't bring it up due to the lockdown. Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to possibly include 3D images of Pokémon and Pokémon moves, like what's done for anime? It could be done in a seperate section or sub-section of the articles. Oh, and I don't mean updating every time a new 3D game comes out; I mean adding images for each time a move or Pokémon has appeared in a 3D game, like images of Pidgeot from its appearances in Pokémon Stadium through Pokémon Battle Revolution. I don't know if this has been brought up before, but is this notion a good idea?--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 00:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:Although i don't know much, but taking 3D Pics will be hard and i don't think its a very good idea.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, I don't quite know how it's done, but you don't take 3D pics by using a camera or something. The quality of the 3D images here prove that.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 15:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== Lylat Wiki ==

[http://starfoxwiki.org/Lylat_Wiki Lylat Wiki] is now a part of NIWA, Oct 8th and 15th two others will be added, so might wanna add that to your NIWA bar ;] [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 17:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Main page design ==

Does no one else think Tsutarja is missing?
We have Bulbasaur, Treecko, Chikorita and Turtwig pics on the main page, but no Tsutarja (or victini if you want the first pokémon in the dex) I can feel it's absence when I look at the page. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 19:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:main page uses animated minisprites. we dont have Gen V animated minisprites. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I can ''Make'' Them Animate. but it wont we official, and Archives are currently blocked.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 20:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I see. That's a little worrying because they're not animated on my screen. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 17:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::What browser are you running? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::on chrome and IE they don't work, only firefox. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 12:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::I've heard that they also work on Opera. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Actually,there is a Tsutarja animated sprite Bulbagarden Archives, but there's no space for it. However, a Victini sprite has also been uploaded. [[User:Jlin8002|Jlin8002]] 00:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Jlin8002

== Shiny Gen V Sprites ==

I would like to know where we are going to put the shiny sprites for the fifth generation Pokémon. I have the sprites (official). [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:We have them, however we have yet to upload them. I guess I could do them today. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 11:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== Translations ==

This is a big job, and would probably be a bad idea, but could we translate Bulbapedia into other languages? I know that we already have basic translations of Pokémon and Moves, but what about the rest of it?----[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalk]][[User talk:Chalkwriter|writer]] 18:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:May I direct your attention [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis|here]] ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 18:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== Clearer distinction between "natural" and Dream World abilities. ==

I think the distinction between pokémon that only have certain abilities through the Pokémon Dream World and those that don't can be made clearer. For example, on pages of separate abilities there is just one table with normal and PDW pokémon all mixed up, while it would be easier to make separate tables for both. I think this would help both users that own Pokémon Black or White and those that don't. Besides that we could also make a category for "Abilities exclusive to Pokémon Dream World", like {{a|Harvest}}. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 00:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
:On the separate pages, they are specfically listed in a separate column that says "Dream World ability". That seems separate enough. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, but I think it would be easier if for example you are looking for a pokémon that has a certain ability, that you don't have to go through a list of which half of the pokémon are Dream World pokémon. Even for Dream World users like me pokémon in wild and in Dream World are two completely separate things. But yeah, it's not that necessary. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

== Grammar error ==

Being the Grammar Nazi I am, I have spotted an error I can't fix. I accidentally got logged out while editing a userpage, and I noticed there is a lack of space between sentences on the message that explains that new users cannot edit userpages. This is really bothering me, so could anyone with the power to edit the MediaWiki namespace fix it? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
:Done, I think. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

== Update on Message to the Editor ==

[[Template:Main Page/Message from the Editor|'''This''']] should be updated, no? I think people would like to know it's been unlocked [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 02:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
: Very true, its more that a month old [[User:Ruberduck0123|'''Ruber''']][[User talk:Ruberduck0123|'''duck''']][[Special:Contributions/Ruberduck0123|'''0123''']] 07:00, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
::It doesn't matter if it's five months old, he edits it when they have an announcement to make, he doesn't have to update it once a month people!! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 13:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbanews ==

I have a question : Can only staff members report news to bulbanews or can normal users also report --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 15:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Bulbanews is a different wiki altogether. Though they're both part of Bulbagarden, both Bulbapedia and Bulbanews have their own front pages. The information you're looking for is on Bulbanews's front page and if you have any other questions about it, it'd make sense to ask on that talk page rather than this one. [[n:Front page|here's a link, for convenience]] [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 20:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:What Kanjo said is correct, but to answer your question, anyone is allowed to report news to Bulbanews. After submission, an admin or columnist needs to move it out of the draft namespace and into the mainspace. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== Zoroark's Name ==

I think the Ark in its name could be cause it can transform into lots of pokemon like an ark of pokemon and the reason i posted it here cause i cant post it on Zoroark's article . --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 16:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:First of all, if you can't post in an article, inquire in the article's talk page (i.e. [[Talk:Zoroark (Pokémon)]]), not Talk: Main Page. Secondly, that's a real stretch: that's not an actual definition of the word ark, it's just a vague metaphor. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 21:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Before you ask ==

Read the news. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

:Is it for the Japanese anime writer? If so, I suppose Chimecho is more appropriate than Lugia, considering how the little windchime links to places like Mt. Pyre and Sendoff Spring. It can be in greyscale if desired. Besides, what is more favourable aesthetically is that one may include Chingling too, instead of Lugia all over the place. [[User:Rxhar|Rxhar]] 09:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

::It's Lugia because the man is credited with helping to create it. It was on the news post. [[User:Tamah|Tamah]] 23:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

:::Well, it was more than a week by now, someone could remember me who edits the main page? --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 16:14, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

== What'd I do wrong here? ==

[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Starck]]

... What happened? [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
:Just create a page with <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki>.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 13:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

==EV Listings==

I was just thinking of a very useful idea. On the pages for each route, cave, etc, where the wild Pokémon are listen, I was thinking we should add another column after each Pokémon and say "1 Speed," or "2 Attack," or something. That, paired with encounter and level rates would help a great deal in EV training for all different levels. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
:Well, I admit, this would be useful to some people, but this is an encyclopedia, not a walkthrough. Honestly, I don't see why you can't go to the Pokémon's page and check. I'm not for it, but I'm not exactly saying NO. --[[User:Si6x12|'''Si6''']][[User Talk:Si6x12|'''x12''']] 03:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::I agree completely, however, it would be a nice little touch on the page for convenience. I'm not one of them, but I know some people have incredibly slow computers, and I can easily imagine the frustration of those who have slow connections along with a desire to EV train. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 14:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm thinking no, but I do see a use in it. Perhaps {{bp|Project Walkthroughs}} would be a good place to ask. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Putting every possible bit of information is dumb. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:04, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::But that's not what we'd be doing now, is it? We wouldn't be putting their number, or Dex color, or Egg group, or anything like that, just the EV(s) they give. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::The number should already be there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:50, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::::No, I'm talking about on the route pages. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::::Don't make me go on a rant about users and clicking links. If you plan to EV train, then just look up the Pokémon that give EVs in whatever. We're an encyclopedia, not an EV training guide. Do some of your own research, dude. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:15, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::This isn't at all a matter of laziness. Heck, I'd be willing to go around and do a ton of the work, assuming I could figure out how to code it (which I can't) It's just a nice touch of convenience for users, you know? I mean, I'm fine if we don't do it, it's just a suggestion, after all. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 04:39, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

== Redirection Pages ==

Do we really need those redirection pages with one Pokémon used by a character, the TCG link, and the Pokémon link? We already have the Pokémon used by a character and it's TCG links on the page. I understand the ones for like Pikachu, but ones like Mr. Mime and Gengar don't need to be there, do they? [[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 03:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
:This is already being discussed on the forums, so please be patient. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 03:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
::And how soon do we delete {{template|p}}, which I'm sure you all want. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== What to do with Dream World artwork. ==

Currently we use some to replace the Sugimori artwork, but what to do when said artwork is avaiable?. Sincerely i thing it would be a waste to just leave the DW artwork floating alone. Do you agree? We should do something with it.
--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:06, 15 November 2010 (UTC) Sorry, forgot signature
:It would be a waste. Also, how come we don't put up the old artwork on the Pokémon's page? It seems a waste not to include it on the page (especially when some trivia refers to it). [[User:Tesh|Teshigigas]] [[User_talk:Tesh|[Talk]]] 18:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::Old artwork '''''is''''' on the pages, they just change from time to time [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:36, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
:::not really, Ataro. we are going to find a use for the images, but as of late weve had other things to focus on. rest assured, it will be showcased somewhere and in some way. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:01, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::::/me keeps reading the "In the Games" sections of pages (hint). [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 00:47, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::Over at [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Main_Page Zelda wiki]they use a code of sorts that makes a picture change every time you refresh the page. It seemed to use a template called <nowiki>{{RandomLinkImage}}</nowiki> for [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Link this page]. I think I've seen simeler on userpages. It varied page to page. --[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 20:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe each Pokemon's page can feature a gallery of their art from all games. Just a random thought. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 21:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
::Eventually. There's always an issue with doing that though. And that is how many damned exceptions there are. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:13, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Um, doesn't each Pokémon page link to a gallery anyway? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:00, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Em, we could show the artwork in the pages for "special" cases, like ivysaur. Ivysaur has purple colored eyes in the anime and Dream World--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 22:44, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Trading pre-Unova ==

Some pokemon such as [[Bulbasaur]] say that you have to "trade" to get the Pokémon when you actually have to get it through Pokéshift, Dream World, or both? When are we going to change this? —[[User:Zekasaur|♫Ze]][[User talk:Zekasaur|kas]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|aur♫]] 03:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
:It will likely be changed as soon as someone enters that specific information into the tables. If I recall correctly, the template defaults to saying "trade" if no data is entered. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 04:58, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

== Preview ==
You know how it seems that everyone forgets to use the preview when they first come on? Well on NWiki, they have something that makes you show preview, and I was wondering if we could use that here. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 01:30, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:I actually find that incredibly annoying on NWiki. If you are going around making minor edits, such as relinking, it just gets in the way. I'm pretty sure there is an option here to turn it on in preferences if you like it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== File:Ani586WMS.png not displaying ==

Could someone work on this? The file [[a:File:Ani586WMS.png]] isn't showing up on the main page. I checked the Archives and found that the filename is correct, but somehow or another it isn't working. Thanks. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' ''(my [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/Chiefboz|contributions]])'' 15:44, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
:There is nothing that can be done about this. It is just the archives not synchronizing with Bulbapedia. All we can do is wait for it to fix itself. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:28, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hopefully before Christmas...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 03:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:::It was actually displaying when MAGNEDETH added it. It fitted in nicely too... --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::::It seems to be working now. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 17:25, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon SIENNA??? Why do we have NOTHING on this? See video ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQqH2HV7p10&feature=watch_response

I had no idea there was such a thing as a Sienna version of this!! Please, add the article: {{red link|Pokemon Sienna}}. Thanks! --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:27, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe on [[hack games]]. But it probably isn't notable enough. Take it up on the talk page there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:You couls add it to {{red link|rom hacks}}{{unsigned|Ent3r}}
::No. That page does not and will not exist. The correct page is [[hack games]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:57, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
:::On the record, we only add really famous hack games to the [[hack games]] article. I've never heard of this one personally, so it probably doesn't need to be mentioned. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:06, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

== "Pokemon Apokelypse" ==

Anyone seen this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDX1m0Y2Vkg&feature=watch_response_rev

Looks like we don't have an article on it either. Why doesn't anyone create something about this? --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:[[User:ShinyPikachu/Pokémon Apokélypse]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

== Did you know section: "...the typing of the first Unova Gym Leader is depend''a''nt..." ==

Shouldn't that read "depend'''e'''nt"? The spelling that currently appears on the Main Page isn't really accepted in American or British English. [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 19:07, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:Fixed. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

== A search bar? ==

Has Bulbapedia ever considered having a bar that would be used similar to the Google toolbar? It could have a place to search for an article on Bulbapedia, maybe even have a link to the home page, recent changes, bulbawiki forum, the archives, etc. This would mean easy access to not just the wiki, but so that people with the toolbar could get to a specific pafe faster as well! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:16, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:You mean a Bulbapedia Toolbar for a browser? That's something to think about, I guess. Maybe a Firefox addon or something. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
::Yes. That's what I meant. I'm not sure if it is even possible but if it was it would be very useful for viewing and editing Bulbapedia. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 03:34, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I would recommend bringing this up on the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 BulbaWiki forum]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:47, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
I thought there already was a search bar on the bulbagarden main page?
::::Yeah there's one on the main page but it's not accurate like google--[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 22:03, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Try [[Bulbapedia Search Bar Plugin]]. Anyone know how to program? '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 04:45, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Countdown ==

Are we going to have a countdown for the NA release of Black and White? →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:54, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
:Why not. I think it's traditional to keep the Christmas garb up until January 5th, so we can change the colorscheme then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:46, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
::Well can we change the color scheme now?--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:46, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Yep. We do it all the time. If look in the hidden code of [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page&action=edit Template:Main Page], you can see all the alternate ones. Try previewing them on a different page (you won't be able to preview them on Template:Main Page because it is protected). So now that it's the sixth, I guess someone needs to change the colorscheme (I think trom wanted to change to the BW one). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:55, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Klink swap. ==

How in the world did everyone switch giaru with klink so FAST? If anyone thinks this is a funny comment I am a new user--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 01:46, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:Many users, and [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Giaru (Pokémon)]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:18, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::A. It was 3 whole days ago. B. Not many names were revealed. C. The names aren't linked in many places, so it is quick to change them. D. There are tons of people who are available 24/7 to change things as soon as possible. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:28, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:::That would mean at LEAST one hundred users in each time zone! Just HOW many people do we have!--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 18:15, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

== WHAT HAPPENED?!?! ==

WHAT HAPPENED TO BULBAPEDIA?!?!?!--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 04:48, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
:Nevermind. It's all good now.--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 04:49, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
...What did happen? --'''[[User:Flyingtypefan|~~☆Flyingtypefan☆~~]]''' '''''•[[User talk:Flyingtypefan|Talk]]•''''' '''''[[Delibird (Pokemon)|Holiday cheer]]•''''' 01:32, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== TCG Proposal ==

While looking at some cards from [[Undaunted]], I came across Hariyama. So I clicked it, and the hue was WAY too bright. Could we adopt a darker color for Fighting type pokemon? [[User:TheTheDragon14|TheTheDragon14]] 23:39, 3 January 2011 (UTC)TheTheDragon14
:Specifically [[Hariyama (Undaunted 14)|this card]]? Yes, I agree. It is a bit bright. I suggest you take this to {{bp|Project TCG}}. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 23:57, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

== Log Out ==

I was changing my signature recently and nearly every time I pressed save I got logged out! What's happening? —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 08:42, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
:I am being ignored. Someone help me! —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 10:29, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::I believe the server is having some problems at the moment. See [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=39109&page=18 here] for a little more information. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

== Animated G5 Sprites... ==

Would it be possible to put in the full, animated versions of the sprites from Generation 5? Generation 2 and 3 sprites are animated... I was also wondering if this would just be too much trouble or would overload the server. You can find the sprites [http://www.arkeis.com/animatedsprites.html/ here.] (good website, I think that they're all accurate. Whoever made it did an awesome job). Also, those sprites wouldn't have to be used, it's just the resource that I found. the files are .gif files... Thanks!!! [[User:Bapplesauce|Bapplesauce]] 02:51, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:Some of the BW sprites are animated PNGs. We don't want to use GIFs for Generation IV and V sprites. You have to have Firefox in order to see the animation because some browsers don't support it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:57, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
::Oh, that's right- I always used to find some other animated images on here that wouldn't animate... Okay. Well, if anyone finds another way... or can get more animated PNGs... thanks. [[User:Bapplesauce|Bapplesauce]] 03:40, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Just so you know, you don't have to have Firefox; Opera works as well. However, I think those are the only major browsers that support APNG (IE and Chrome don't, I don't know about Safari). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:52, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

==Redirect problem==
[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:DoubleRedirects&limit=500&offset=0 O_O]. Uh, were these supposed to redirect to SmashWiki? Interwiki table prob? '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|--Havoc]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|48]]''''' 01:14, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:I saw that too! I was confused. →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::Yes the were. It comes with the NIWA affiliation. Unfortunately I'm not sure if there's a way to "fix" these redirects so that they don't appear on that page. It's not a problem though. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 01:25, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:::They do work perfectly fine, but they just fill up that special page. It is a problem with the MediaWiki software. And for the record, only some redirect to SmashWiki; Mario goes to Mario Wiki, Kirby goes to WiKirby etc. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:44, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

==Countdown==
Don't know if anyone agrees with me but shouldn't the countdown be changed to the date of the European release considering it's the first English release of B+W?

Edit - Sorry forgot to sign --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 21:21, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
:Yes, it should. And since it's been confirmed, it now does. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:29, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

I think it should be the north american one.Wasent it that way with platinum?[[User:KylleyFab4Fan|KylleyFab4Fan]] 23:15, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:The European date is the closest thing we have to the English release, I don't know what's wrong with that. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 23:18, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
::To clarify what Jello said, the date we use for the countdown is the ''first'' official ''English'' release date. For Platinum it was the North American date, as the North American date was before the European date. For Black and White the European date is first, so we are counting down to that date. If, by some chance, the next main series game(s) is/are released in Australia and New Zealand first (I wish), then we will count down to that date instead. There will be no preference for one English-speaking location over another. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:48, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Would putting up multiple countdowns overload the server?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 18:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
::::I don't think that's what Werdnae meant. I think he meant just changing the one countdown to reflect the first official English release date. --[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 20:52, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Ah, I get it now.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon of the Week ==

We most make a Pokemon of the Week column. Almost every site makes one.
I`m sorry i didn`t sign. --Other help is what i can do. 16:56, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

== Save page error ==

I just don't get this. Every once in a while when I try to save an edit, the website says "This page is restricted to the following" even though I am a user--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 11

2011-01-22T02:11:29Z

Celibi25: /* Countdown */

This is the {{bp|talk page}} for the Bulbapedia's front page. If you have a general comment about the wiki, please consider placing it in [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 our forum].'''

== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10|Archive 10]]

== Pokémon cries? ==
Should we add Pokémon cries to the Pokémon articles?--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's been tried before, but it caused too many problems. It would still probably cause too much problems now.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 20:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10#Pokémon Cries|This has been discussed to death already.]] —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 20:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::We're going to try to get them put in as soon as possible. They've been sitting in a directory on the server for... jeez, at least a year. Last time we tried to put them in, the server exploded. Archaic's been wary of doing it since then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Just out of curiosity, what file format was used for the cries? That may have been the problem.--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::Over at de:, we have mp3 with the following syntax: <nowiki>{{#mp3:http://www.greenchu.de/nakigoe/025.mp3}}</nowiki>. I cannot figure out where that parser functions comes from, though.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] [[User talk:Afrael|talk]] 00:59, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I think having the files like [http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/#music Floatzel.net] have their music files could work well. We might even eventually be able to put route/town/cave music on the pages!--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 04:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Oh would I ''love'' to do that. Too bad Nintendo would '''destroy''' us for doing so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:01, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

== Move Trivia ==

Should there be a trivia section for moves? For instance, only one Pokémon can learn [[Steel Wing]] by leveling up.--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 16:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:There are for some moves, but not all of them have any notable trivia to add, so there is no sub heading. If you think of '''notable''' trivia, then add the sub-heading and put it in. Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 21:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

== Glitch Pokémon ==

Hi there. I remember when I was around nine, I used to play Pokémon Gold & Crystal, and I remember there was this cloning trick that could clone pokémon and the items that they held. Anyways, I began to notice if I did the right trick at a certain time, (or whatever it was, it has been a while) I managed to get a special type of Pokémon, the trainer. The trainer of course, had no moves and therefore could only struggle, but you could use TMs and everything. I remember having fun with that, but I can't find any info on this.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Bublador}} ([[User talk:Bublador|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bublador|contribs]]) ''

Try this page, all of the glitches are on [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Glitches#All_Generations]] and please sign your comment when you use these talk pages. thank you --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 19:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==

I'm just thinking if on every Pokémon's page that we have their Pronunciation somewhere? like this:

Say: Sin-da-qwil

What do you think?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's a good idea, but I believe we've had problems with adding pronunciations in the past because of people not agreeing on the "correct" pronunciation (also, sometimes there are conflicting pronunciations from different official sources) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 07:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Oh oh then. I just though because some Pokémon I can't pronounce their names--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::If you have a look at the source of, say, Bulbasaur's page, you'll see this:
<pre>{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Bulbasaur |
pron=<sc>''bul''-buh-sore</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''.
Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> |
jname=フシギダネ |
tmname=Fushigidane |
</pre>

the "pron=" parameter is not coded into the infobox, so it does appear. But it's there on every Pokemon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 07:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, it's coded in but because of the disagreements on pronunciation and no clear official source for many of them, it was decided to hide them all. If Nintendo or anyone ever releases an official pronunciation guide then we'll be able to put them back up. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Is whatever the pronunciation is in the English dub of the anime (and similarly the pronunciation in the Japanese dub for those not yet released over here) not enough to justify it? With the exception of the odd time where they've actually changed the pronunciation during it e.g. Regice... '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== Artwork?! ==

I hate to be the silly one who starts the "What's going on?!!" discussion, but seriously, why have all the pictures of the Generation I Pokémon been changed to the old Red and Green artwork? Is it for an aniversary or something? [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. Anniversary of RB was yesterday, so Gen I Pokémon got Gen I art. But due to the server cache it took some a while to switch over, and I believe they should all be starting to switch back now, but again, that'll be whenever the server cache gets updated. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 11:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, maybe it could be put on a switch, like with Gastrodon's forms, so it could switch between old and new artwork periodically. How's that sound? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:49, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::That's exactly what it did. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, so it's still in effect? As in, like, permanently? Because that was what I was suggesting. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yes, next year and on certain other days the site will have easter egg effects. Yaaaay for surprises. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::I won't panic when the Gym Leader pictures are replaced by fan art then... [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 11:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Is it the same currently with the Generation II Pokémon and their G/S artwork? [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:16, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Yes. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

== just a though... ==

i realise this is probably in the wrong place, but, as unlocking the generation IV nationaldex and requesting a trade on the GTS require only seeing a particular species of pokémon, would it make sense to include a section explaining where to see them. (and i am aware that the GTS has only around a week left). I know that people (granted they are few) have had problems viewing unown and riolu in DP for example.--[[User:Mr-connor|Mr-connor]] 13:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

:There is a section explaining where to see, and catch, Pokémon. It's right below the Pokédex Entries section.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 13:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

'''TYPHLOSION LV:50
KINDRA LV:50
ALAKAZAM LV:50
LUGIA LV:45
TYRANITAR LV:55
DRAGONITE LV:57'''

this is my current team for pokemon soulsilver...i think it has room for improvement.
[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)brandon strayhorn[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:This isn't the place to put this. Post it on the forums.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbagarden Archives ==

I have a problem that I keep sending the confirmation e-mail like every week but it doesn't show up. I'm saying it here because I haven't confirmed my e-mail on Archives. Someone please help me!!!!!!--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 10:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
:Have you checked it isn't getting caught by the spam filter on your email? Maybe check that the email address is right too? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 10:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks Wardnae, I accidentally wrote the wrong email.--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 23:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
== Sizes on Pokémon pages.. ==

Something that's been bugging me for a while. I've been manually going around and resizing the main art boxes at the top of each Pokémon page so they all match each other and look uniform. However, many times box sizes will still be off by a few pixels. Would there be anyway to code something that keeps them all the same size? [http://i54.tinypic.com/28rcc53.png] is an example of what Ii'm talking about. Basically, the box that surrounds the art.~★ '''[[User:Cubic Question|''cubic'']][[User talk:Cubic Question|''QUESTION'']]''' 13:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
:Even if you make the width a certain size, the length will be different according to the size of the art. To get it uniform, you would have to make every file have some whitespace so it would be the same size. That won't happen though. The boxes don't really need to be uniform in size. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 20:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

== Litsen... ==

First of all, I have a idea of a section in the pokemon's main page. Footprint. It'll be good. also, the Pronunciation topic above^^. We can take Right pronunciation from [http://pokemon.wikia.com/ Pokemon Wiki]. I know its cheating, but, Ill help us. --[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:The footprint is already in each Pokémon's infobox. And, we already discussed that the pronunciation caused conflict, and the Pokémon Wiki is far from a reliable source. So we probably won't be adding the pronunciation to each's Pokémon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 11:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::By the way I think you were trying to say Listen not Litsen?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, Pronunciation is what admins can do when the wiki lets locked. also, wouldn't they need help adding 150 and more pokemon?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Pronunciation is conflicting. It isn't just hard work. For example, Bonsly was pronounced with an ē once, then with an ī in another time. One was in the movie, the other in the anime, I've just forgotten which. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 11:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh Really? We All Know That Charmander is pronounced ''Chaar-man-der''. Easy Enough?? Just search on google for pokemon pronunciation.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, no Google searching, thanks. The official sources (Official Handbooks, Anime, and Video Games) don't always agree on pronunciations of Pokémon names. Now, if the official sources all agree at one point, then we will add them. But until then, they're not going on the species pages. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 12:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay Then. Moving to the next topic. What About Something at the Top of The Pokemon pics To Change the Picture into other generation art or to a Different form?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:Most form changing Pokémon have their forms rotated based on the current time (see {{p|Arceus}}, then refresh the page). As for different generations, the infoboxes are set to display it on certain days—for example, on the anniversary of Red and Blue the Pokémon pages displayed their Red and Blue artwork (for those that have it). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Doesn't look like the servers are being nice ==

No, I'm not geting 504s (or, if I am, FireFox is hiding them); I'm getting something even worse: pages not loading at all. A couple of days ago, I was going to come here to get a small amount of information, and it took ages to do so (so long in fact that I just got it O_O). I think the servers are being overstressed - despite the fact that I was getting good ping times off of 10 pings to the site's router (if there is one), I couldn't load any pages - not even robots.txt! That is just a simple text document, and it wouldn't even load! I would start the lockdown soon, as the closer to release we get, the more activity we are likely to get.

I consider myself lucky I could even get on right now. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 06:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:The fifth generation Pokemon are invading Bulbapedia and interfering with the system! I haven't actually noticed any problems yet though, which is strange. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:38, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Finally! ==

as i mentioned Form changing above, We can use A method for pokemon with 2 different forms like giratina and shellos

Method: All you guys saw Avatar, Everyone Saw. Now See The [http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com Avatar Wiki]'s Jake Sully Article. There is a button below the pic to change the Picture into Human/Avatar. We can use that Method.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 16:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:That's a really good idea actually, I think it would be better than the Pokemon's form just changing periodically. Perhaps now Bulbapedia is being upgraded for the fifth generation, it would be a convenient time for recoding the articles. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::I dunno. Shaymin is also two formes, and changes with time. Shellos and Giratina, by the way, are not random. It's based on the hours. And unfortunately, that just changes the infobox picture; there are '''''several''''' things that change for forme changers. Unless your Ground-type moves miss against Altered Forme Giratina. What's that? They don't? But you can only use Earthquake five times? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Wikimon has a more extensive one that allows you to toggle the whole box, for example in the [http://wikimon.net/Agumon Agumon article], click the tabs. It even integrates the table of contents into it. Pretty clever. - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 04:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::::see, only arceus has several things that needed to be changed. what about others?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 07:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::What about Mebukijika and Genesect (yes, Genesect has other formes (I think five or six?)) [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

:I also support the toggle idea. By the way, it has been mentioned in Arbok's Pokédex entries that it has at least six different patterns, of which two have appeared in official game art. Maybe it would be worthwhile to also toggle these two the same way? --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::I say we just stick with actual forme changes, and not include design differences between canons. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 14:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== Metric tags in Pokédex entries ==
All pokedex entries use the imperial units of measurement from the US translation. I suggest adding tags with the metric counterparts for two reasons:

1 - the original Japanese entries use metric units, so it could be seen as "more canon".

2 - there are international users of Bulbapedia (me included) that are not used to imperial units.

For example, the final sentence in Magneton's entry in Yellow could be: ''It raises the temperature by {{tt|3.6F degrees|2°C}} within {{tt|3,300 feet|1 km}}.''

If the staff agrees, I'm willing to go through all Pokedex entries and add the metric values. I know enough Japanese to easily get the official values from the pokedex entries listed on the Japanese wiki, assuming those are correct.

--[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:Metric system seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to include, it's merely a big job to go through ''everything'' and add the metric equivalent. Perhaps starting small, with say the Pokémon infobox only for now, and work our way up (every infobox should list the Pokémon's height and weight, so it's the most prominent use of the imperial system). Pokédex entries are also pretty simple, but I'd also say they're the less important area to work on (no complaints if you want to fix them all yourself, however). --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 11:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

::Each Pokemon already have both their imperial and metric height and weight listed in their infobox, except for Generation 5, because their imperial values are not yet officially known. So pokedex entries are the most important area left to work on, as far as I can see. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 13:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:::Unless someone else has a big complaint about it, I don't see why you can't go ahead and update those, in that case. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 14:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

::::I have done 101 out of 493 for now. I may have missed a few in scanning all those entries. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 23:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== Question? ==

The option to write in the discussion for the Pokemon Black and White Versions isn't there. Are we not aloud to write there? --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 21:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, but only if you're autoconfirmed, meaning you've been registered for a certain amount of time and have made a certain number of edits.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::OK thanks --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 22:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::What is the amount of time and important edits? [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== 3D Artwork ==

This is something that's been on my mind for a while now, but I couldn't bring it up due to the lockdown. Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to possibly include 3D images of Pokémon and Pokémon moves, like what's done for anime? It could be done in a seperate section or sub-section of the articles. Oh, and I don't mean updating every time a new 3D game comes out; I mean adding images for each time a move or Pokémon has appeared in a 3D game, like images of Pidgeot from its appearances in Pokémon Stadium through Pokémon Battle Revolution. I don't know if this has been brought up before, but is this notion a good idea?--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 00:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:Although i don't know much, but taking 3D Pics will be hard and i don't think its a very good idea.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, I don't quite know how it's done, but you don't take 3D pics by using a camera or something. The quality of the 3D images here prove that.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 15:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== Lylat Wiki ==

[http://starfoxwiki.org/Lylat_Wiki Lylat Wiki] is now a part of NIWA, Oct 8th and 15th two others will be added, so might wanna add that to your NIWA bar ;] [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 17:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Main page design ==

Does no one else think Tsutarja is missing?
We have Bulbasaur, Treecko, Chikorita and Turtwig pics on the main page, but no Tsutarja (or victini if you want the first pokémon in the dex) I can feel it's absence when I look at the page. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 19:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:main page uses animated minisprites. we dont have Gen V animated minisprites. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I can ''Make'' Them Animate. but it wont we official, and Archives are currently blocked.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 20:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I see. That's a little worrying because they're not animated on my screen. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 17:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::What browser are you running? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::on chrome and IE they don't work, only firefox. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 12:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::I've heard that they also work on Opera. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Actually,there is a Tsutarja animated sprite Bulbagarden Archives, but there's no space for it. However, a Victini sprite has also been uploaded. [[User:Jlin8002|Jlin8002]] 00:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Jlin8002

== Shiny Gen V Sprites ==

I would like to know where we are going to put the shiny sprites for the fifth generation Pokémon. I have the sprites (official). [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:We have them, however we have yet to upload them. I guess I could do them today. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 11:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== Translations ==

This is a big job, and would probably be a bad idea, but could we translate Bulbapedia into other languages? I know that we already have basic translations of Pokémon and Moves, but what about the rest of it?----[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalk]][[User talk:Chalkwriter|writer]] 18:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:May I direct your attention [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis|here]] ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 18:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== Clearer distinction between "natural" and Dream World abilities. ==

I think the distinction between pokémon that only have certain abilities through the Pokémon Dream World and those that don't can be made clearer. For example, on pages of separate abilities there is just one table with normal and PDW pokémon all mixed up, while it would be easier to make separate tables for both. I think this would help both users that own Pokémon Black or White and those that don't. Besides that we could also make a category for "Abilities exclusive to Pokémon Dream World", like {{a|Harvest}}. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 00:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
:On the separate pages, they are specfically listed in a separate column that says "Dream World ability". That seems separate enough. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, but I think it would be easier if for example you are looking for a pokémon that has a certain ability, that you don't have to go through a list of which half of the pokémon are Dream World pokémon. Even for Dream World users like me pokémon in wild and in Dream World are two completely separate things. But yeah, it's not that necessary. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

== Grammar error ==

Being the Grammar Nazi I am, I have spotted an error I can't fix. I accidentally got logged out while editing a userpage, and I noticed there is a lack of space between sentences on the message that explains that new users cannot edit userpages. This is really bothering me, so could anyone with the power to edit the MediaWiki namespace fix it? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
:Done, I think. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

== Update on Message to the Editor ==

[[Template:Main Page/Message from the Editor|'''This''']] should be updated, no? I think people would like to know it's been unlocked [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 02:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
: Very true, its more that a month old [[User:Ruberduck0123|'''Ruber''']][[User talk:Ruberduck0123|'''duck''']][[Special:Contributions/Ruberduck0123|'''0123''']] 07:00, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
::It doesn't matter if it's five months old, he edits it when they have an announcement to make, he doesn't have to update it once a month people!! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 13:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbanews ==

I have a question : Can only staff members report news to bulbanews or can normal users also report --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 15:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Bulbanews is a different wiki altogether. Though they're both part of Bulbagarden, both Bulbapedia and Bulbanews have their own front pages. The information you're looking for is on Bulbanews's front page and if you have any other questions about it, it'd make sense to ask on that talk page rather than this one. [[n:Front page|here's a link, for convenience]] [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 20:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:What Kanjo said is correct, but to answer your question, anyone is allowed to report news to Bulbanews. After submission, an admin or columnist needs to move it out of the draft namespace and into the mainspace. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== Zoroark's Name ==

I think the Ark in its name could be cause it can transform into lots of pokemon like an ark of pokemon and the reason i posted it here cause i cant post it on Zoroark's article . --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 16:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:First of all, if you can't post in an article, inquire in the article's talk page (i.e. [[Talk:Zoroark (Pokémon)]]), not Talk: Main Page. Secondly, that's a real stretch: that's not an actual definition of the word ark, it's just a vague metaphor. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 21:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Before you ask ==

Read the news. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

:Is it for the Japanese anime writer? If so, I suppose Chimecho is more appropriate than Lugia, considering how the little windchime links to places like Mt. Pyre and Sendoff Spring. It can be in greyscale if desired. Besides, what is more favourable aesthetically is that one may include Chingling too, instead of Lugia all over the place. [[User:Rxhar|Rxhar]] 09:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

::It's Lugia because the man is credited with helping to create it. It was on the news post. [[User:Tamah|Tamah]] 23:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

:::Well, it was more than a week by now, someone could remember me who edits the main page? --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 16:14, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

== What'd I do wrong here? ==

[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Starck]]

... What happened? [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
:Just create a page with <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki>.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 13:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

==EV Listings==

I was just thinking of a very useful idea. On the pages for each route, cave, etc, where the wild Pokémon are listen, I was thinking we should add another column after each Pokémon and say "1 Speed," or "2 Attack," or something. That, paired with encounter and level rates would help a great deal in EV training for all different levels. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
:Well, I admit, this would be useful to some people, but this is an encyclopedia, not a walkthrough. Honestly, I don't see why you can't go to the Pokémon's page and check. I'm not for it, but I'm not exactly saying NO. --[[User:Si6x12|'''Si6''']][[User Talk:Si6x12|'''x12''']] 03:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::I agree completely, however, it would be a nice little touch on the page for convenience. I'm not one of them, but I know some people have incredibly slow computers, and I can easily imagine the frustration of those who have slow connections along with a desire to EV train. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 14:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm thinking no, but I do see a use in it. Perhaps {{bp|Project Walkthroughs}} would be a good place to ask. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Putting every possible bit of information is dumb. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:04, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::But that's not what we'd be doing now, is it? We wouldn't be putting their number, or Dex color, or Egg group, or anything like that, just the EV(s) they give. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::The number should already be there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:50, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::::No, I'm talking about on the route pages. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::::Don't make me go on a rant about users and clicking links. If you plan to EV train, then just look up the Pokémon that give EVs in whatever. We're an encyclopedia, not an EV training guide. Do some of your own research, dude. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:15, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::This isn't at all a matter of laziness. Heck, I'd be willing to go around and do a ton of the work, assuming I could figure out how to code it (which I can't) It's just a nice touch of convenience for users, you know? I mean, I'm fine if we don't do it, it's just a suggestion, after all. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 04:39, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

== Redirection Pages ==

Do we really need those redirection pages with one Pokémon used by a character, the TCG link, and the Pokémon link? We already have the Pokémon used by a character and it's TCG links on the page. I understand the ones for like Pikachu, but ones like Mr. Mime and Gengar don't need to be there, do they? [[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 03:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
:This is already being discussed on the forums, so please be patient. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 03:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
::And how soon do we delete {{template|p}}, which I'm sure you all want. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== What to do with Dream World artwork. ==

Currently we use some to replace the Sugimori artwork, but what to do when said artwork is avaiable?. Sincerely i thing it would be a waste to just leave the DW artwork floating alone. Do you agree? We should do something with it.
--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:06, 15 November 2010 (UTC) Sorry, forgot signature
:It would be a waste. Also, how come we don't put up the old artwork on the Pokémon's page? It seems a waste not to include it on the page (especially when some trivia refers to it). [[User:Tesh|Teshigigas]] [[User_talk:Tesh|[Talk]]] 18:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::Old artwork '''''is''''' on the pages, they just change from time to time [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:36, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
:::not really, Ataro. we are going to find a use for the images, but as of late weve had other things to focus on. rest assured, it will be showcased somewhere and in some way. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:01, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::::/me keeps reading the "In the Games" sections of pages (hint). [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 00:47, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::Over at [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Main_Page Zelda wiki]they use a code of sorts that makes a picture change every time you refresh the page. It seemed to use a template called <nowiki>{{RandomLinkImage}}</nowiki> for [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Link this page]. I think I've seen simeler on userpages. It varied page to page. --[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 20:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe each Pokemon's page can feature a gallery of their art from all games. Just a random thought. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 21:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
::Eventually. There's always an issue with doing that though. And that is how many damned exceptions there are. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:13, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Um, doesn't each Pokémon page link to a gallery anyway? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:00, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Em, we could show the artwork in the pages for "special" cases, like ivysaur. Ivysaur has purple colored eyes in the anime and Dream World--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 22:44, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Trading pre-Unova ==

Some pokemon such as [[Bulbasaur]] say that you have to "trade" to get the Pokémon when you actually have to get it through Pokéshift, Dream World, or both? When are we going to change this? —[[User:Zekasaur|♫Ze]][[User talk:Zekasaur|kas]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|aur♫]] 03:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
:It will likely be changed as soon as someone enters that specific information into the tables. If I recall correctly, the template defaults to saying "trade" if no data is entered. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 04:58, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

== Preview ==
You know how it seems that everyone forgets to use the preview when they first come on? Well on NWiki, they have something that makes you show preview, and I was wondering if we could use that here. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 01:30, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:I actually find that incredibly annoying on NWiki. If you are going around making minor edits, such as relinking, it just gets in the way. I'm pretty sure there is an option here to turn it on in preferences if you like it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== File:Ani586WMS.png not displaying ==

Could someone work on this? The file [[a:File:Ani586WMS.png]] isn't showing up on the main page. I checked the Archives and found that the filename is correct, but somehow or another it isn't working. Thanks. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' ''(my [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/Chiefboz|contributions]])'' 15:44, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
:There is nothing that can be done about this. It is just the archives not synchronizing with Bulbapedia. All we can do is wait for it to fix itself. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:28, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hopefully before Christmas...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 03:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:::It was actually displaying when MAGNEDETH added it. It fitted in nicely too... --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::::It seems to be working now. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 17:25, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon SIENNA??? Why do we have NOTHING on this? See video ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQqH2HV7p10&feature=watch_response

I had no idea there was such a thing as a Sienna version of this!! Please, add the article: {{red link|Pokemon Sienna}}. Thanks! --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:27, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe on [[hack games]]. But it probably isn't notable enough. Take it up on the talk page there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:You couls add it to {{red link|rom hacks}}{{unsigned|Ent3r}}
::No. That page does not and will not exist. The correct page is [[hack games]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:57, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
:::On the record, we only add really famous hack games to the [[hack games]] article. I've never heard of this one personally, so it probably doesn't need to be mentioned. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:06, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

== "Pokemon Apokelypse" ==

Anyone seen this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDX1m0Y2Vkg&feature=watch_response_rev

Looks like we don't have an article on it either. Why doesn't anyone create something about this? --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:[[User:ShinyPikachu/Pokémon Apokélypse]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

== Did you know section: "...the typing of the first Unova Gym Leader is depend''a''nt..." ==

Shouldn't that read "depend'''e'''nt"? The spelling that currently appears on the Main Page isn't really accepted in American or British English. [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 19:07, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:Fixed. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

== A search bar? ==

Has Bulbapedia ever considered having a bar that would be used similar to the Google toolbar? It could have a place to search for an article on Bulbapedia, maybe even have a link to the home page, recent changes, bulbawiki forum, the archives, etc. This would mean easy access to not just the wiki, but so that people with the toolbar could get to a specific pafe faster as well! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:16, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:You mean a Bulbapedia Toolbar for a browser? That's something to think about, I guess. Maybe a Firefox addon or something. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
::Yes. That's what I meant. I'm not sure if it is even possible but if it was it would be very useful for viewing and editing Bulbapedia. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 03:34, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I would recommend bringing this up on the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 BulbaWiki forum]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:47, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
I thought there already was a search bar on the bulbagarden main page?
::::Yeah there's one on the main page but it's not accurate like google--[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 22:03, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Try [[Bulbapedia Search Bar Plugin]]. Anyone know how to program? '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 04:45, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Countdown ==

Are we going to have a countdown for the NA release of Black and White? →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:54, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
:Why not. I think it's traditional to keep the Christmas garb up until January 5th, so we can change the colorscheme then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:46, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
::Well can we change the color scheme now?--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:46, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Yep. We do it all the time. If look in the hidden code of [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page&action=edit Template:Main Page], you can see all the alternate ones. Try previewing them on a different page (you won't be able to preview them on Template:Main Page because it is protected). So now that it's the sixth, I guess someone needs to change the colorscheme (I think trom wanted to change to the BW one). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:55, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Klink swap. ==

How in the world did everyone switch giaru with klink so FAST? If anyone thinks this is a funny comment I am a new user--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 01:46, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:Many users, and [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Giaru (Pokémon)]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:18, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::A. It was 3 whole days ago. B. Not many names were revealed. C. The names aren't linked in many places, so it is quick to change them. D. There are tons of people who are available 24/7 to change things as soon as possible. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:28, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:::That would mean at LEAST one hundred users in each time zone! Just HOW many people do we have!--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 18:15, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

== WHAT HAPPENED?!?! ==

WHAT HAPPENED TO BULBAPEDIA?!?!?!--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 04:48, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
:Nevermind. It's all good now.--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 04:49, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
...What did happen? --'''[[User:Flyingtypefan|~~☆Flyingtypefan☆~~]]''' '''''•[[User talk:Flyingtypefan|Talk]]•''''' '''''[[Delibird (Pokemon)|Holiday cheer]]•''''' 01:32, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== TCG Proposal ==

While looking at some cards from [[Undaunted]], I came across Hariyama. So I clicked it, and the hue was WAY too bright. Could we adopt a darker color for Fighting type pokemon? [[User:TheTheDragon14|TheTheDragon14]] 23:39, 3 January 2011 (UTC)TheTheDragon14
:Specifically [[Hariyama (Undaunted 14)|this card]]? Yes, I agree. It is a bit bright. I suggest you take this to {{bp|Project TCG}}. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 23:57, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

== Log Out ==

I was changing my signature recently and nearly every time I pressed save I got logged out! What's happening? —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 08:42, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
:I am being ignored. Someone help me! —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 10:29, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::I believe the server is having some problems at the moment. See [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=39109&page=18 here] for a little more information. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

== Animated G5 Sprites... ==

Would it be possible to put in the full, animated versions of the sprites from Generation 5? Generation 2 and 3 sprites are animated... I was also wondering if this would just be too much trouble or would overload the server. You can find the sprites [http://www.arkeis.com/animatedsprites.html/ here.] (good website, I think that they're all accurate. Whoever made it did an awesome job). Also, those sprites wouldn't have to be used, it's just the resource that I found. the files are .gif files... Thanks!!! [[User:Bapplesauce|Bapplesauce]] 02:51, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:Some of the BW sprites are animated PNGs. We don't want to use GIFs for Generation IV and V sprites. You have to have Firefox in order to see the animation because some browsers don't support it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:57, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
::Oh, that's right- I always used to find some other animated images on here that wouldn't animate... Okay. Well, if anyone finds another way... or can get more animated PNGs... thanks. [[User:Bapplesauce|Bapplesauce]] 03:40, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Just so you know, you don't have to have Firefox; Opera works as well. However, I think those are the only major browsers that support APNG (IE and Chrome don't, I don't know about Safari). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:52, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

==Redirect problem==
[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:DoubleRedirects&limit=500&offset=0 O_O]. Uh, were these supposed to redirect to SmashWiki? Interwiki table prob? '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|--Havoc]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|48]]''''' 01:14, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:I saw that too! I was confused. →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::Yes the were. It comes with the NIWA affiliation. Unfortunately I'm not sure if there's a way to "fix" these redirects so that they don't appear on that page. It's not a problem though. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 01:25, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:::They do work perfectly fine, but they just fill up that special page. It is a problem with the MediaWiki software. And for the record, only some redirect to SmashWiki; Mario goes to Mario Wiki, Kirby goes to WiKirby etc. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:44, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

==Countdown==
Don't know if anyone agrees with me but shouldn't the countdown be changed to the date of the European release considering it's the first English release of B+W?

Edit - Sorry forgot to sign --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 21:21, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
:Yes, it should. And since it's been confirmed, it now does. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:29, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

I think it should be the north american one.Wasent it that way with platinum?[[User:KylleyFab4Fan|KylleyFab4Fan]] 23:15, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:The European date is the closest thing we have to the English release, I don't know what's wrong with that. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 23:18, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
::To clarify what Jello said, the date we use for the countdown is the ''first'' official ''English'' release date. For Platinum it was the North American date, as the North American date was before the European date. For Black and White the European date is first, so we are counting down to that date. If, by some chance, the next main series game(s) is/are released in Australia and New Zealand first (I wish), then we will count down to that date instead. There will be no preference for one English-speaking location over another. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:48, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Would putting up multiple countdowns overload the server?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 18:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
::::I don't think that's what Werdnae meant. I think he meant just changing the one countdown to reflect the first official English release date. --[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 20:52, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Ah, I get it now.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon of the Week ==

We most make a Pokemon of the Week column. Almost every site makes one.
I`m sorry i didn`t sign. --Other help is what i can do. 16:56, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 11

2011-01-21T18:15:50Z

Celibi25: /* Klink swap. */

This is the {{bp|talk page}} for the Bulbapedia's front page. If you have a general comment about the wiki, please consider placing it in [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 our forum].'''

== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10|Archive 10]]

== Pokémon cries? ==
Should we add Pokémon cries to the Pokémon articles?--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's been tried before, but it caused too many problems. It would still probably cause too much problems now.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 20:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10#Pokémon Cries|This has been discussed to death already.]] —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 20:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::We're going to try to get them put in as soon as possible. They've been sitting in a directory on the server for... jeez, at least a year. Last time we tried to put them in, the server exploded. Archaic's been wary of doing it since then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Just out of curiosity, what file format was used for the cries? That may have been the problem.--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::Over at de:, we have mp3 with the following syntax: <nowiki>{{#mp3:http://www.greenchu.de/nakigoe/025.mp3}}</nowiki>. I cannot figure out where that parser functions comes from, though.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] [[User talk:Afrael|talk]] 00:59, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I think having the files like [http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/#music Floatzel.net] have their music files could work well. We might even eventually be able to put route/town/cave music on the pages!--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 04:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Oh would I ''love'' to do that. Too bad Nintendo would '''destroy''' us for doing so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:01, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

== Move Trivia ==

Should there be a trivia section for moves? For instance, only one Pokémon can learn [[Steel Wing]] by leveling up.--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 16:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:There are for some moves, but not all of them have any notable trivia to add, so there is no sub heading. If you think of '''notable''' trivia, then add the sub-heading and put it in. Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 21:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

== Glitch Pokémon ==

Hi there. I remember when I was around nine, I used to play Pokémon Gold & Crystal, and I remember there was this cloning trick that could clone pokémon and the items that they held. Anyways, I began to notice if I did the right trick at a certain time, (or whatever it was, it has been a while) I managed to get a special type of Pokémon, the trainer. The trainer of course, had no moves and therefore could only struggle, but you could use TMs and everything. I remember having fun with that, but I can't find any info on this.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Bublador}} ([[User talk:Bublador|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bublador|contribs]]) ''

Try this page, all of the glitches are on [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Glitches#All_Generations]] and please sign your comment when you use these talk pages. thank you --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 19:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==

I'm just thinking if on every Pokémon's page that we have their Pronunciation somewhere? like this:

Say: Sin-da-qwil

What do you think?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's a good idea, but I believe we've had problems with adding pronunciations in the past because of people not agreeing on the "correct" pronunciation (also, sometimes there are conflicting pronunciations from different official sources) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 07:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Oh oh then. I just though because some Pokémon I can't pronounce their names--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::If you have a look at the source of, say, Bulbasaur's page, you'll see this:
<pre>{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Bulbasaur |
pron=<sc>''bul''-buh-sore</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''.
Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> |
jname=フシギダネ |
tmname=Fushigidane |
</pre>

the "pron=" parameter is not coded into the infobox, so it does appear. But it's there on every Pokemon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 07:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, it's coded in but because of the disagreements on pronunciation and no clear official source for many of them, it was decided to hide them all. If Nintendo or anyone ever releases an official pronunciation guide then we'll be able to put them back up. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Is whatever the pronunciation is in the English dub of the anime (and similarly the pronunciation in the Japanese dub for those not yet released over here) not enough to justify it? With the exception of the odd time where they've actually changed the pronunciation during it e.g. Regice... '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== Artwork?! ==

I hate to be the silly one who starts the "What's going on?!!" discussion, but seriously, why have all the pictures of the Generation I Pokémon been changed to the old Red and Green artwork? Is it for an aniversary or something? [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. Anniversary of RB was yesterday, so Gen I Pokémon got Gen I art. But due to the server cache it took some a while to switch over, and I believe they should all be starting to switch back now, but again, that'll be whenever the server cache gets updated. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 11:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, maybe it could be put on a switch, like with Gastrodon's forms, so it could switch between old and new artwork periodically. How's that sound? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:49, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::That's exactly what it did. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, so it's still in effect? As in, like, permanently? Because that was what I was suggesting. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yes, next year and on certain other days the site will have easter egg effects. Yaaaay for surprises. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::I won't panic when the Gym Leader pictures are replaced by fan art then... [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 11:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Is it the same currently with the Generation II Pokémon and their G/S artwork? [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:16, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Yes. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

== just a though... ==

i realise this is probably in the wrong place, but, as unlocking the generation IV nationaldex and requesting a trade on the GTS require only seeing a particular species of pokémon, would it make sense to include a section explaining where to see them. (and i am aware that the GTS has only around a week left). I know that people (granted they are few) have had problems viewing unown and riolu in DP for example.--[[User:Mr-connor|Mr-connor]] 13:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

:There is a section explaining where to see, and catch, Pokémon. It's right below the Pokédex Entries section.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 13:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

'''TYPHLOSION LV:50
KINDRA LV:50
ALAKAZAM LV:50
LUGIA LV:45
TYRANITAR LV:55
DRAGONITE LV:57'''

this is my current team for pokemon soulsilver...i think it has room for improvement.
[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)brandon strayhorn[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:This isn't the place to put this. Post it on the forums.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbagarden Archives ==

I have a problem that I keep sending the confirmation e-mail like every week but it doesn't show up. I'm saying it here because I haven't confirmed my e-mail on Archives. Someone please help me!!!!!!--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 10:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
:Have you checked it isn't getting caught by the spam filter on your email? Maybe check that the email address is right too? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 10:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks Wardnae, I accidentally wrote the wrong email.--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 23:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
== Sizes on Pokémon pages.. ==

Something that's been bugging me for a while. I've been manually going around and resizing the main art boxes at the top of each Pokémon page so they all match each other and look uniform. However, many times box sizes will still be off by a few pixels. Would there be anyway to code something that keeps them all the same size? [http://i54.tinypic.com/28rcc53.png] is an example of what Ii'm talking about. Basically, the box that surrounds the art.~★ '''[[User:Cubic Question|''cubic'']][[User talk:Cubic Question|''QUESTION'']]''' 13:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
:Even if you make the width a certain size, the length will be different according to the size of the art. To get it uniform, you would have to make every file have some whitespace so it would be the same size. That won't happen though. The boxes don't really need to be uniform in size. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 20:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

== Litsen... ==

First of all, I have a idea of a section in the pokemon's main page. Footprint. It'll be good. also, the Pronunciation topic above^^. We can take Right pronunciation from [http://pokemon.wikia.com/ Pokemon Wiki]. I know its cheating, but, Ill help us. --[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:The footprint is already in each Pokémon's infobox. And, we already discussed that the pronunciation caused conflict, and the Pokémon Wiki is far from a reliable source. So we probably won't be adding the pronunciation to each's Pokémon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 11:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::By the way I think you were trying to say Listen not Litsen?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, Pronunciation is what admins can do when the wiki lets locked. also, wouldn't they need help adding 150 and more pokemon?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Pronunciation is conflicting. It isn't just hard work. For example, Bonsly was pronounced with an ē once, then with an ī in another time. One was in the movie, the other in the anime, I've just forgotten which. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 11:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh Really? We All Know That Charmander is pronounced ''Chaar-man-der''. Easy Enough?? Just search on google for pokemon pronunciation.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, no Google searching, thanks. The official sources (Official Handbooks, Anime, and Video Games) don't always agree on pronunciations of Pokémon names. Now, if the official sources all agree at one point, then we will add them. But until then, they're not going on the species pages. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 12:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay Then. Moving to the next topic. What About Something at the Top of The Pokemon pics To Change the Picture into other generation art or to a Different form?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:Most form changing Pokémon have their forms rotated based on the current time (see {{p|Arceus}}, then refresh the page). As for different generations, the infoboxes are set to display it on certain days—for example, on the anniversary of Red and Blue the Pokémon pages displayed their Red and Blue artwork (for those that have it). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Doesn't look like the servers are being nice ==

No, I'm not geting 504s (or, if I am, FireFox is hiding them); I'm getting something even worse: pages not loading at all. A couple of days ago, I was going to come here to get a small amount of information, and it took ages to do so (so long in fact that I just got it O_O). I think the servers are being overstressed - despite the fact that I was getting good ping times off of 10 pings to the site's router (if there is one), I couldn't load any pages - not even robots.txt! That is just a simple text document, and it wouldn't even load! I would start the lockdown soon, as the closer to release we get, the more activity we are likely to get.

I consider myself lucky I could even get on right now. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 06:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:The fifth generation Pokemon are invading Bulbapedia and interfering with the system! I haven't actually noticed any problems yet though, which is strange. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:38, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Finally! ==

as i mentioned Form changing above, We can use A method for pokemon with 2 different forms like giratina and shellos

Method: All you guys saw Avatar, Everyone Saw. Now See The [http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com Avatar Wiki]'s Jake Sully Article. There is a button below the pic to change the Picture into Human/Avatar. We can use that Method.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 16:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:That's a really good idea actually, I think it would be better than the Pokemon's form just changing periodically. Perhaps now Bulbapedia is being upgraded for the fifth generation, it would be a convenient time for recoding the articles. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::I dunno. Shaymin is also two formes, and changes with time. Shellos and Giratina, by the way, are not random. It's based on the hours. And unfortunately, that just changes the infobox picture; there are '''''several''''' things that change for forme changers. Unless your Ground-type moves miss against Altered Forme Giratina. What's that? They don't? But you can only use Earthquake five times? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Wikimon has a more extensive one that allows you to toggle the whole box, for example in the [http://wikimon.net/Agumon Agumon article], click the tabs. It even integrates the table of contents into it. Pretty clever. - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 04:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::::see, only arceus has several things that needed to be changed. what about others?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 07:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::What about Mebukijika and Genesect (yes, Genesect has other formes (I think five or six?)) [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

:I also support the toggle idea. By the way, it has been mentioned in Arbok's Pokédex entries that it has at least six different patterns, of which two have appeared in official game art. Maybe it would be worthwhile to also toggle these two the same way? --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::I say we just stick with actual forme changes, and not include design differences between canons. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 14:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== Metric tags in Pokédex entries ==
All pokedex entries use the imperial units of measurement from the US translation. I suggest adding tags with the metric counterparts for two reasons:

1 - the original Japanese entries use metric units, so it could be seen as "more canon".

2 - there are international users of Bulbapedia (me included) that are not used to imperial units.

For example, the final sentence in Magneton's entry in Yellow could be: ''It raises the temperature by {{tt|3.6F degrees|2°C}} within {{tt|3,300 feet|1 km}}.''

If the staff agrees, I'm willing to go through all Pokedex entries and add the metric values. I know enough Japanese to easily get the official values from the pokedex entries listed on the Japanese wiki, assuming those are correct.

--[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:Metric system seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to include, it's merely a big job to go through ''everything'' and add the metric equivalent. Perhaps starting small, with say the Pokémon infobox only for now, and work our way up (every infobox should list the Pokémon's height and weight, so it's the most prominent use of the imperial system). Pokédex entries are also pretty simple, but I'd also say they're the less important area to work on (no complaints if you want to fix them all yourself, however). --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 11:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

::Each Pokemon already have both their imperial and metric height and weight listed in their infobox, except for Generation 5, because their imperial values are not yet officially known. So pokedex entries are the most important area left to work on, as far as I can see. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 13:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:::Unless someone else has a big complaint about it, I don't see why you can't go ahead and update those, in that case. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 14:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

::::I have done 101 out of 493 for now. I may have missed a few in scanning all those entries. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 23:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== Question? ==

The option to write in the discussion for the Pokemon Black and White Versions isn't there. Are we not aloud to write there? --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 21:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, but only if you're autoconfirmed, meaning you've been registered for a certain amount of time and have made a certain number of edits.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::OK thanks --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 22:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::What is the amount of time and important edits? [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== 3D Artwork ==

This is something that's been on my mind for a while now, but I couldn't bring it up due to the lockdown. Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to possibly include 3D images of Pokémon and Pokémon moves, like what's done for anime? It could be done in a seperate section or sub-section of the articles. Oh, and I don't mean updating every time a new 3D game comes out; I mean adding images for each time a move or Pokémon has appeared in a 3D game, like images of Pidgeot from its appearances in Pokémon Stadium through Pokémon Battle Revolution. I don't know if this has been brought up before, but is this notion a good idea?--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 00:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:Although i don't know much, but taking 3D Pics will be hard and i don't think its a very good idea.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, I don't quite know how it's done, but you don't take 3D pics by using a camera or something. The quality of the 3D images here prove that.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 15:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== Lylat Wiki ==

[http://starfoxwiki.org/Lylat_Wiki Lylat Wiki] is now a part of NIWA, Oct 8th and 15th two others will be added, so might wanna add that to your NIWA bar ;] [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 17:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Main page design ==

Does no one else think Tsutarja is missing?
We have Bulbasaur, Treecko, Chikorita and Turtwig pics on the main page, but no Tsutarja (or victini if you want the first pokémon in the dex) I can feel it's absence when I look at the page. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 19:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:main page uses animated minisprites. we dont have Gen V animated minisprites. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I can ''Make'' Them Animate. but it wont we official, and Archives are currently blocked.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 20:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I see. That's a little worrying because they're not animated on my screen. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 17:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::What browser are you running? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::on chrome and IE they don't work, only firefox. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 12:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::I've heard that they also work on Opera. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Actually,there is a Tsutarja animated sprite Bulbagarden Archives, but there's no space for it. However, a Victini sprite has also been uploaded. [[User:Jlin8002|Jlin8002]] 00:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Jlin8002

== Shiny Gen V Sprites ==

I would like to know where we are going to put the shiny sprites for the fifth generation Pokémon. I have the sprites (official). [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:We have them, however we have yet to upload them. I guess I could do them today. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 11:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== Translations ==

This is a big job, and would probably be a bad idea, but could we translate Bulbapedia into other languages? I know that we already have basic translations of Pokémon and Moves, but what about the rest of it?----[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalk]][[User talk:Chalkwriter|writer]] 18:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:May I direct your attention [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis|here]] ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 18:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== Clearer distinction between "natural" and Dream World abilities. ==

I think the distinction between pokémon that only have certain abilities through the Pokémon Dream World and those that don't can be made clearer. For example, on pages of separate abilities there is just one table with normal and PDW pokémon all mixed up, while it would be easier to make separate tables for both. I think this would help both users that own Pokémon Black or White and those that don't. Besides that we could also make a category for "Abilities exclusive to Pokémon Dream World", like {{a|Harvest}}. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 00:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
:On the separate pages, they are specfically listed in a separate column that says "Dream World ability". That seems separate enough. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, but I think it would be easier if for example you are looking for a pokémon that has a certain ability, that you don't have to go through a list of which half of the pokémon are Dream World pokémon. Even for Dream World users like me pokémon in wild and in Dream World are two completely separate things. But yeah, it's not that necessary. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

== Grammar error ==

Being the Grammar Nazi I am, I have spotted an error I can't fix. I accidentally got logged out while editing a userpage, and I noticed there is a lack of space between sentences on the message that explains that new users cannot edit userpages. This is really bothering me, so could anyone with the power to edit the MediaWiki namespace fix it? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
:Done, I think. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

== Update on Message to the Editor ==

[[Template:Main Page/Message from the Editor|'''This''']] should be updated, no? I think people would like to know it's been unlocked [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 02:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
: Very true, its more that a month old [[User:Ruberduck0123|'''Ruber''']][[User talk:Ruberduck0123|'''duck''']][[Special:Contributions/Ruberduck0123|'''0123''']] 07:00, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
::It doesn't matter if it's five months old, he edits it when they have an announcement to make, he doesn't have to update it once a month people!! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 13:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbanews ==

I have a question : Can only staff members report news to bulbanews or can normal users also report --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 15:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Bulbanews is a different wiki altogether. Though they're both part of Bulbagarden, both Bulbapedia and Bulbanews have their own front pages. The information you're looking for is on Bulbanews's front page and if you have any other questions about it, it'd make sense to ask on that talk page rather than this one. [[n:Front page|here's a link, for convenience]] [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 20:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:What Kanjo said is correct, but to answer your question, anyone is allowed to report news to Bulbanews. After submission, an admin or columnist needs to move it out of the draft namespace and into the mainspace. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== Zoroark's Name ==

I think the Ark in its name could be cause it can transform into lots of pokemon like an ark of pokemon and the reason i posted it here cause i cant post it on Zoroark's article . --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 16:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:First of all, if you can't post in an article, inquire in the article's talk page (i.e. [[Talk:Zoroark (Pokémon)]]), not Talk: Main Page. Secondly, that's a real stretch: that's not an actual definition of the word ark, it's just a vague metaphor. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 21:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Before you ask ==

Read the news. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

:Is it for the Japanese anime writer? If so, I suppose Chimecho is more appropriate than Lugia, considering how the little windchime links to places like Mt. Pyre and Sendoff Spring. It can be in greyscale if desired. Besides, what is more favourable aesthetically is that one may include Chingling too, instead of Lugia all over the place. [[User:Rxhar|Rxhar]] 09:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

::It's Lugia because the man is credited with helping to create it. It was on the news post. [[User:Tamah|Tamah]] 23:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

:::Well, it was more than a week by now, someone could remember me who edits the main page? --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 16:14, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

== What'd I do wrong here? ==

[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Starck]]

... What happened? [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
:Just create a page with <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki>.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 13:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

==EV Listings==

I was just thinking of a very useful idea. On the pages for each route, cave, etc, where the wild Pokémon are listen, I was thinking we should add another column after each Pokémon and say "1 Speed," or "2 Attack," or something. That, paired with encounter and level rates would help a great deal in EV training for all different levels. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
:Well, I admit, this would be useful to some people, but this is an encyclopedia, not a walkthrough. Honestly, I don't see why you can't go to the Pokémon's page and check. I'm not for it, but I'm not exactly saying NO. --[[User:Si6x12|'''Si6''']][[User Talk:Si6x12|'''x12''']] 03:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::I agree completely, however, it would be a nice little touch on the page for convenience. I'm not one of them, but I know some people have incredibly slow computers, and I can easily imagine the frustration of those who have slow connections along with a desire to EV train. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 14:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm thinking no, but I do see a use in it. Perhaps {{bp|Project Walkthroughs}} would be a good place to ask. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Putting every possible bit of information is dumb. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:04, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::But that's not what we'd be doing now, is it? We wouldn't be putting their number, or Dex color, or Egg group, or anything like that, just the EV(s) they give. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::The number should already be there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:50, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::::No, I'm talking about on the route pages. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::::Don't make me go on a rant about users and clicking links. If you plan to EV train, then just look up the Pokémon that give EVs in whatever. We're an encyclopedia, not an EV training guide. Do some of your own research, dude. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:15, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::This isn't at all a matter of laziness. Heck, I'd be willing to go around and do a ton of the work, assuming I could figure out how to code it (which I can't) It's just a nice touch of convenience for users, you know? I mean, I'm fine if we don't do it, it's just a suggestion, after all. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 04:39, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

== Redirection Pages ==

Do we really need those redirection pages with one Pokémon used by a character, the TCG link, and the Pokémon link? We already have the Pokémon used by a character and it's TCG links on the page. I understand the ones for like Pikachu, but ones like Mr. Mime and Gengar don't need to be there, do they? [[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 03:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
:This is already being discussed on the forums, so please be patient. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 03:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
::And how soon do we delete {{template|p}}, which I'm sure you all want. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== What to do with Dream World artwork. ==

Currently we use some to replace the Sugimori artwork, but what to do when said artwork is avaiable?. Sincerely i thing it would be a waste to just leave the DW artwork floating alone. Do you agree? We should do something with it.
--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:06, 15 November 2010 (UTC) Sorry, forgot signature
:It would be a waste. Also, how come we don't put up the old artwork on the Pokémon's page? It seems a waste not to include it on the page (especially when some trivia refers to it). [[User:Tesh|Teshigigas]] [[User_talk:Tesh|[Talk]]] 18:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::Old artwork '''''is''''' on the pages, they just change from time to time [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:36, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
:::not really, Ataro. we are going to find a use for the images, but as of late weve had other things to focus on. rest assured, it will be showcased somewhere and in some way. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:01, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::::/me keeps reading the "In the Games" sections of pages (hint). [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 00:47, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::Over at [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Main_Page Zelda wiki]they use a code of sorts that makes a picture change every time you refresh the page. It seemed to use a template called <nowiki>{{RandomLinkImage}}</nowiki> for [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Link this page]. I think I've seen simeler on userpages. It varied page to page. --[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 20:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe each Pokemon's page can feature a gallery of their art from all games. Just a random thought. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 21:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
::Eventually. There's always an issue with doing that though. And that is how many damned exceptions there are. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:13, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Um, doesn't each Pokémon page link to a gallery anyway? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:00, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Em, we could show the artwork in the pages for "special" cases, like ivysaur. Ivysaur has purple colored eyes in the anime and Dream World--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 22:44, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Trading pre-Unova ==

Some pokemon such as [[Bulbasaur]] say that you have to "trade" to get the Pokémon when you actually have to get it through Pokéshift, Dream World, or both? When are we going to change this? —[[User:Zekasaur|♫Ze]][[User talk:Zekasaur|kas]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|aur♫]] 03:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
:It will likely be changed as soon as someone enters that specific information into the tables. If I recall correctly, the template defaults to saying "trade" if no data is entered. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 04:58, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

== Preview ==
You know how it seems that everyone forgets to use the preview when they first come on? Well on NWiki, they have something that makes you show preview, and I was wondering if we could use that here. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 01:30, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:I actually find that incredibly annoying on NWiki. If you are going around making minor edits, such as relinking, it just gets in the way. I'm pretty sure there is an option here to turn it on in preferences if you like it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== File:Ani586WMS.png not displaying ==

Could someone work on this? The file [[a:File:Ani586WMS.png]] isn't showing up on the main page. I checked the Archives and found that the filename is correct, but somehow or another it isn't working. Thanks. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' ''(my [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/Chiefboz|contributions]])'' 15:44, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
:There is nothing that can be done about this. It is just the archives not synchronizing with Bulbapedia. All we can do is wait for it to fix itself. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:28, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hopefully before Christmas...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 03:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:::It was actually displaying when MAGNEDETH added it. It fitted in nicely too... --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::::It seems to be working now. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 17:25, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon SIENNA??? Why do we have NOTHING on this? See video ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQqH2HV7p10&feature=watch_response

I had no idea there was such a thing as a Sienna version of this!! Please, add the article: {{red link|Pokemon Sienna}}. Thanks! --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:27, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe on [[hack games]]. But it probably isn't notable enough. Take it up on the talk page there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:You couls add it to {{red link|rom hacks}}{{unsigned|Ent3r}}
::No. That page does not and will not exist. The correct page is [[hack games]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:57, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
:::On the record, we only add really famous hack games to the [[hack games]] article. I've never heard of this one personally, so it probably doesn't need to be mentioned. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:06, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

== "Pokemon Apokelypse" ==

Anyone seen this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDX1m0Y2Vkg&feature=watch_response_rev

Looks like we don't have an article on it either. Why doesn't anyone create something about this? --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:[[User:ShinyPikachu/Pokémon Apokélypse]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

== Did you know section: "...the typing of the first Unova Gym Leader is depend''a''nt..." ==

Shouldn't that read "depend'''e'''nt"? The spelling that currently appears on the Main Page isn't really accepted in American or British English. [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 19:07, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:Fixed. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

== A search bar? ==

Has Bulbapedia ever considered having a bar that would be used similar to the Google toolbar? It could have a place to search for an article on Bulbapedia, maybe even have a link to the home page, recent changes, bulbawiki forum, the archives, etc. This would mean easy access to not just the wiki, but so that people with the toolbar could get to a specific pafe faster as well! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:16, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:You mean a Bulbapedia Toolbar for a browser? That's something to think about, I guess. Maybe a Firefox addon or something. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
::Yes. That's what I meant. I'm not sure if it is even possible but if it was it would be very useful for viewing and editing Bulbapedia. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 03:34, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I would recommend bringing this up on the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 BulbaWiki forum]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:47, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
I thought there already was a search bar on the bulbagarden main page?
::::Yeah there's one on the main page but it's not accurate like google--[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 22:03, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Try [[Bulbapedia Search Bar Plugin]]. Anyone know how to program? '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 04:45, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Countdown ==

Are we going to have a countdown for the NA release of Black and White? →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:54, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
:Why not. I think it's traditional to keep the Christmas garb up until January 5th, so we can change the colorscheme then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:46, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
::Well can we change the color scheme now?--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:46, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Yep. We do it all the time. If look in the hidden code of [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page&action=edit Template:Main Page], you can see all the alternate ones. Try previewing them on a different page (you won't be able to preview them on Template:Main Page because it is protected). So now that it's the sixth, I guess someone needs to change the colorscheme (I think trom wanted to change to the BW one). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:55, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Klink swap. ==

How in the world did everyone switch giaru with klink so FAST? If anyone thinks this is a funny comment I am a new user--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 01:46, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:Many users, and [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Giaru (Pokémon)]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:18, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::A. It was 3 whole days ago. B. Not many names were revealed. C. The names aren't linked in many places, so it is quick to change them. D. There are tons of people who are available 24/7 to change things as soon as possible. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:28, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:::That would mean at LEAST one hundred users in each time zone! Just HOW many people do we have!--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 18:15, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

== WHAT HAPPENED?!?! ==

WHAT HAPPENED TO BULBAPEDIA?!?!?!--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 04:48, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
:Nevermind. It's all good now.--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 04:49, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
...What did happen? --'''[[User:Flyingtypefan|~~☆Flyingtypefan☆~~]]''' '''''•[[User talk:Flyingtypefan|Talk]]•''''' '''''[[Delibird (Pokemon)|Holiday cheer]]•''''' 01:32, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== TCG Proposal ==

While looking at some cards from [[Undaunted]], I came across Hariyama. So I clicked it, and the hue was WAY too bright. Could we adopt a darker color for Fighting type pokemon? [[User:TheTheDragon14|TheTheDragon14]] 23:39, 3 January 2011 (UTC)TheTheDragon14
:Specifically [[Hariyama (Undaunted 14)|this card]]? Yes, I agree. It is a bit bright. I suggest you take this to {{bp|Project TCG}}. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 23:57, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

== Log Out ==

I was changing my signature recently and nearly every time I pressed save I got logged out! What's happening? —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 08:42, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
:I am being ignored. Someone help me! —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 10:29, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::I believe the server is having some problems at the moment. See [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=39109&page=18 here] for a little more information. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

== Animated G5 Sprites... ==

Would it be possible to put in the full, animated versions of the sprites from Generation 5? Generation 2 and 3 sprites are animated... I was also wondering if this would just be too much trouble or would overload the server. You can find the sprites [http://www.arkeis.com/animatedsprites.html/ here.] (good website, I think that they're all accurate. Whoever made it did an awesome job). Also, those sprites wouldn't have to be used, it's just the resource that I found. the files are .gif files... Thanks!!! [[User:Bapplesauce|Bapplesauce]] 02:51, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:Some of the BW sprites are animated PNGs. We don't want to use GIFs for Generation IV and V sprites. You have to have Firefox in order to see the animation because some browsers don't support it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:57, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
::Oh, that's right- I always used to find some other animated images on here that wouldn't animate... Okay. Well, if anyone finds another way... or can get more animated PNGs... thanks. [[User:Bapplesauce|Bapplesauce]] 03:40, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Just so you know, you don't have to have Firefox; Opera works as well. However, I think those are the only major browsers that support APNG (IE and Chrome don't, I don't know about Safari). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:52, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

==Redirect problem==
[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:DoubleRedirects&limit=500&offset=0 O_O]. Uh, were these supposed to redirect to SmashWiki? Interwiki table prob? '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|--Havoc]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|48]]''''' 01:14, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:I saw that too! I was confused. →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::Yes the were. It comes with the NIWA affiliation. Unfortunately I'm not sure if there's a way to "fix" these redirects so that they don't appear on that page. It's not a problem though. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 01:25, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:::They do work perfectly fine, but they just fill up that special page. It is a problem with the MediaWiki software. And for the record, only some redirect to SmashWiki; Mario goes to Mario Wiki, Kirby goes to WiKirby etc. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:44, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

==Countdown==
Don't know if anyone agrees with me but shouldn't the countdown be changed to the date of the European release considering it's the first English release of B+W?

Edit - Sorry forgot to sign --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 21:21, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
:Yes, it should. And since it's been confirmed, it now does. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:29, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

I think it should be the north american one.Wasent it that way with platinum?[[User:KylleyFab4Fan|KylleyFab4Fan]] 23:15, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:The European date is the closest thing we have to the English release, I don't know what's wrong with that. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 23:18, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
::To clarify what Jello said, the date we use for the countdown is the ''first'' official ''English'' release date. For Platinum it was the North American date, as the North American date was before the European date. For Black and White the European date is first, so we are counting down to that date. If, by some chance, the next main series game(s) is/are released in Australia and New Zealand first (I wish), then we will count down to that date instead. There will be no preference for one English-speaking location over another. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:48, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Would putting up multiple countdowns overload the server?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 18:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon of the Week ==

We most make a Pokemon of the Week column. Almost every site makes one.
I`m sorry i didn`t sign. --Other help is what i can do. 16:56, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 11

2011-01-21T18:13:50Z

Celibi25: /* Countdown */

This is the {{bp|talk page}} for the Bulbapedia's front page. If you have a general comment about the wiki, please consider placing it in [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 our forum].'''

== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10|Archive 10]]

== Pokémon cries? ==
Should we add Pokémon cries to the Pokémon articles?--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's been tried before, but it caused too many problems. It would still probably cause too much problems now.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 20:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10#Pokémon Cries|This has been discussed to death already.]] —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 20:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::We're going to try to get them put in as soon as possible. They've been sitting in a directory on the server for... jeez, at least a year. Last time we tried to put them in, the server exploded. Archaic's been wary of doing it since then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Just out of curiosity, what file format was used for the cries? That may have been the problem.--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::Over at de:, we have mp3 with the following syntax: <nowiki>{{#mp3:http://www.greenchu.de/nakigoe/025.mp3}}</nowiki>. I cannot figure out where that parser functions comes from, though.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] [[User talk:Afrael|talk]] 00:59, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I think having the files like [http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/#music Floatzel.net] have their music files could work well. We might even eventually be able to put route/town/cave music on the pages!--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 04:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Oh would I ''love'' to do that. Too bad Nintendo would '''destroy''' us for doing so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:01, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

== Move Trivia ==

Should there be a trivia section for moves? For instance, only one Pokémon can learn [[Steel Wing]] by leveling up.--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 16:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:There are for some moves, but not all of them have any notable trivia to add, so there is no sub heading. If you think of '''notable''' trivia, then add the sub-heading and put it in. Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 21:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

== Glitch Pokémon ==

Hi there. I remember when I was around nine, I used to play Pokémon Gold & Crystal, and I remember there was this cloning trick that could clone pokémon and the items that they held. Anyways, I began to notice if I did the right trick at a certain time, (or whatever it was, it has been a while) I managed to get a special type of Pokémon, the trainer. The trainer of course, had no moves and therefore could only struggle, but you could use TMs and everything. I remember having fun with that, but I can't find any info on this.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Bublador}} ([[User talk:Bublador|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bublador|contribs]]) ''

Try this page, all of the glitches are on [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Glitches#All_Generations]] and please sign your comment when you use these talk pages. thank you --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 19:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==

I'm just thinking if on every Pokémon's page that we have their Pronunciation somewhere? like this:

Say: Sin-da-qwil

What do you think?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's a good idea, but I believe we've had problems with adding pronunciations in the past because of people not agreeing on the "correct" pronunciation (also, sometimes there are conflicting pronunciations from different official sources) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 07:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Oh oh then. I just though because some Pokémon I can't pronounce their names--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::If you have a look at the source of, say, Bulbasaur's page, you'll see this:
<pre>{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Bulbasaur |
pron=<sc>''bul''-buh-sore</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''.
Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> |
jname=フシギダネ |
tmname=Fushigidane |
</pre>

the "pron=" parameter is not coded into the infobox, so it does appear. But it's there on every Pokemon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 07:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, it's coded in but because of the disagreements on pronunciation and no clear official source for many of them, it was decided to hide them all. If Nintendo or anyone ever releases an official pronunciation guide then we'll be able to put them back up. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Is whatever the pronunciation is in the English dub of the anime (and similarly the pronunciation in the Japanese dub for those not yet released over here) not enough to justify it? With the exception of the odd time where they've actually changed the pronunciation during it e.g. Regice... '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== Artwork?! ==

I hate to be the silly one who starts the "What's going on?!!" discussion, but seriously, why have all the pictures of the Generation I Pokémon been changed to the old Red and Green artwork? Is it for an aniversary or something? [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. Anniversary of RB was yesterday, so Gen I Pokémon got Gen I art. But due to the server cache it took some a while to switch over, and I believe they should all be starting to switch back now, but again, that'll be whenever the server cache gets updated. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 11:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, maybe it could be put on a switch, like with Gastrodon's forms, so it could switch between old and new artwork periodically. How's that sound? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:49, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::That's exactly what it did. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, so it's still in effect? As in, like, permanently? Because that was what I was suggesting. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yes, next year and on certain other days the site will have easter egg effects. Yaaaay for surprises. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::I won't panic when the Gym Leader pictures are replaced by fan art then... [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 11:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Is it the same currently with the Generation II Pokémon and their G/S artwork? [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:16, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Yes. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

== just a though... ==

i realise this is probably in the wrong place, but, as unlocking the generation IV nationaldex and requesting a trade on the GTS require only seeing a particular species of pokémon, would it make sense to include a section explaining where to see them. (and i am aware that the GTS has only around a week left). I know that people (granted they are few) have had problems viewing unown and riolu in DP for example.--[[User:Mr-connor|Mr-connor]] 13:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

:There is a section explaining where to see, and catch, Pokémon. It's right below the Pokédex Entries section.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 13:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

'''TYPHLOSION LV:50
KINDRA LV:50
ALAKAZAM LV:50
LUGIA LV:45
TYRANITAR LV:55
DRAGONITE LV:57'''

this is my current team for pokemon soulsilver...i think it has room for improvement.
[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)brandon strayhorn[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:This isn't the place to put this. Post it on the forums.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbagarden Archives ==

I have a problem that I keep sending the confirmation e-mail like every week but it doesn't show up. I'm saying it here because I haven't confirmed my e-mail on Archives. Someone please help me!!!!!!--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 10:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
:Have you checked it isn't getting caught by the spam filter on your email? Maybe check that the email address is right too? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 10:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks Wardnae, I accidentally wrote the wrong email.--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 23:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
== Sizes on Pokémon pages.. ==

Something that's been bugging me for a while. I've been manually going around and resizing the main art boxes at the top of each Pokémon page so they all match each other and look uniform. However, many times box sizes will still be off by a few pixels. Would there be anyway to code something that keeps them all the same size? [http://i54.tinypic.com/28rcc53.png] is an example of what Ii'm talking about. Basically, the box that surrounds the art.~★ '''[[User:Cubic Question|''cubic'']][[User talk:Cubic Question|''QUESTION'']]''' 13:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
:Even if you make the width a certain size, the length will be different according to the size of the art. To get it uniform, you would have to make every file have some whitespace so it would be the same size. That won't happen though. The boxes don't really need to be uniform in size. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 20:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

== Litsen... ==

First of all, I have a idea of a section in the pokemon's main page. Footprint. It'll be good. also, the Pronunciation topic above^^. We can take Right pronunciation from [http://pokemon.wikia.com/ Pokemon Wiki]. I know its cheating, but, Ill help us. --[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:The footprint is already in each Pokémon's infobox. And, we already discussed that the pronunciation caused conflict, and the Pokémon Wiki is far from a reliable source. So we probably won't be adding the pronunciation to each's Pokémon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 11:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::By the way I think you were trying to say Listen not Litsen?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, Pronunciation is what admins can do when the wiki lets locked. also, wouldn't they need help adding 150 and more pokemon?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Pronunciation is conflicting. It isn't just hard work. For example, Bonsly was pronounced with an ē once, then with an ī in another time. One was in the movie, the other in the anime, I've just forgotten which. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 11:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh Really? We All Know That Charmander is pronounced ''Chaar-man-der''. Easy Enough?? Just search on google for pokemon pronunciation.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, no Google searching, thanks. The official sources (Official Handbooks, Anime, and Video Games) don't always agree on pronunciations of Pokémon names. Now, if the official sources all agree at one point, then we will add them. But until then, they're not going on the species pages. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 12:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay Then. Moving to the next topic. What About Something at the Top of The Pokemon pics To Change the Picture into other generation art or to a Different form?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:Most form changing Pokémon have their forms rotated based on the current time (see {{p|Arceus}}, then refresh the page). As for different generations, the infoboxes are set to display it on certain days—for example, on the anniversary of Red and Blue the Pokémon pages displayed their Red and Blue artwork (for those that have it). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Doesn't look like the servers are being nice ==

No, I'm not geting 504s (or, if I am, FireFox is hiding them); I'm getting something even worse: pages not loading at all. A couple of days ago, I was going to come here to get a small amount of information, and it took ages to do so (so long in fact that I just got it O_O). I think the servers are being overstressed - despite the fact that I was getting good ping times off of 10 pings to the site's router (if there is one), I couldn't load any pages - not even robots.txt! That is just a simple text document, and it wouldn't even load! I would start the lockdown soon, as the closer to release we get, the more activity we are likely to get.

I consider myself lucky I could even get on right now. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 06:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:The fifth generation Pokemon are invading Bulbapedia and interfering with the system! I haven't actually noticed any problems yet though, which is strange. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:38, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Finally! ==

as i mentioned Form changing above, We can use A method for pokemon with 2 different forms like giratina and shellos

Method: All you guys saw Avatar, Everyone Saw. Now See The [http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com Avatar Wiki]'s Jake Sully Article. There is a button below the pic to change the Picture into Human/Avatar. We can use that Method.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 16:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:That's a really good idea actually, I think it would be better than the Pokemon's form just changing periodically. Perhaps now Bulbapedia is being upgraded for the fifth generation, it would be a convenient time for recoding the articles. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::I dunno. Shaymin is also two formes, and changes with time. Shellos and Giratina, by the way, are not random. It's based on the hours. And unfortunately, that just changes the infobox picture; there are '''''several''''' things that change for forme changers. Unless your Ground-type moves miss against Altered Forme Giratina. What's that? They don't? But you can only use Earthquake five times? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Wikimon has a more extensive one that allows you to toggle the whole box, for example in the [http://wikimon.net/Agumon Agumon article], click the tabs. It even integrates the table of contents into it. Pretty clever. - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 04:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::::see, only arceus has several things that needed to be changed. what about others?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 07:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::What about Mebukijika and Genesect (yes, Genesect has other formes (I think five or six?)) [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

:I also support the toggle idea. By the way, it has been mentioned in Arbok's Pokédex entries that it has at least six different patterns, of which two have appeared in official game art. Maybe it would be worthwhile to also toggle these two the same way? --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::I say we just stick with actual forme changes, and not include design differences between canons. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 14:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== Metric tags in Pokédex entries ==
All pokedex entries use the imperial units of measurement from the US translation. I suggest adding tags with the metric counterparts for two reasons:

1 - the original Japanese entries use metric units, so it could be seen as "more canon".

2 - there are international users of Bulbapedia (me included) that are not used to imperial units.

For example, the final sentence in Magneton's entry in Yellow could be: ''It raises the temperature by {{tt|3.6F degrees|2°C}} within {{tt|3,300 feet|1 km}}.''

If the staff agrees, I'm willing to go through all Pokedex entries and add the metric values. I know enough Japanese to easily get the official values from the pokedex entries listed on the Japanese wiki, assuming those are correct.

--[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:Metric system seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to include, it's merely a big job to go through ''everything'' and add the metric equivalent. Perhaps starting small, with say the Pokémon infobox only for now, and work our way up (every infobox should list the Pokémon's height and weight, so it's the most prominent use of the imperial system). Pokédex entries are also pretty simple, but I'd also say they're the less important area to work on (no complaints if you want to fix them all yourself, however). --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 11:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

::Each Pokemon already have both their imperial and metric height and weight listed in their infobox, except for Generation 5, because their imperial values are not yet officially known. So pokedex entries are the most important area left to work on, as far as I can see. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 13:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:::Unless someone else has a big complaint about it, I don't see why you can't go ahead and update those, in that case. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 14:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

::::I have done 101 out of 493 for now. I may have missed a few in scanning all those entries. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 23:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== Question? ==

The option to write in the discussion for the Pokemon Black and White Versions isn't there. Are we not aloud to write there? --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 21:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, but only if you're autoconfirmed, meaning you've been registered for a certain amount of time and have made a certain number of edits.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::OK thanks --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 22:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::What is the amount of time and important edits? [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== 3D Artwork ==

This is something that's been on my mind for a while now, but I couldn't bring it up due to the lockdown. Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to possibly include 3D images of Pokémon and Pokémon moves, like what's done for anime? It could be done in a seperate section or sub-section of the articles. Oh, and I don't mean updating every time a new 3D game comes out; I mean adding images for each time a move or Pokémon has appeared in a 3D game, like images of Pidgeot from its appearances in Pokémon Stadium through Pokémon Battle Revolution. I don't know if this has been brought up before, but is this notion a good idea?--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 00:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:Although i don't know much, but taking 3D Pics will be hard and i don't think its a very good idea.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, I don't quite know how it's done, but you don't take 3D pics by using a camera or something. The quality of the 3D images here prove that.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 15:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== Lylat Wiki ==

[http://starfoxwiki.org/Lylat_Wiki Lylat Wiki] is now a part of NIWA, Oct 8th and 15th two others will be added, so might wanna add that to your NIWA bar ;] [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 17:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Main page design ==

Does no one else think Tsutarja is missing?
We have Bulbasaur, Treecko, Chikorita and Turtwig pics on the main page, but no Tsutarja (or victini if you want the first pokémon in the dex) I can feel it's absence when I look at the page. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 19:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:main page uses animated minisprites. we dont have Gen V animated minisprites. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I can ''Make'' Them Animate. but it wont we official, and Archives are currently blocked.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 20:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I see. That's a little worrying because they're not animated on my screen. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 17:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::What browser are you running? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::on chrome and IE they don't work, only firefox. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 12:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::I've heard that they also work on Opera. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Actually,there is a Tsutarja animated sprite Bulbagarden Archives, but there's no space for it. However, a Victini sprite has also been uploaded. [[User:Jlin8002|Jlin8002]] 00:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Jlin8002

== Shiny Gen V Sprites ==

I would like to know where we are going to put the shiny sprites for the fifth generation Pokémon. I have the sprites (official). [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:We have them, however we have yet to upload them. I guess I could do them today. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 11:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== Translations ==

This is a big job, and would probably be a bad idea, but could we translate Bulbapedia into other languages? I know that we already have basic translations of Pokémon and Moves, but what about the rest of it?----[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalk]][[User talk:Chalkwriter|writer]] 18:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:May I direct your attention [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis|here]] ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 18:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== Clearer distinction between "natural" and Dream World abilities. ==

I think the distinction between pokémon that only have certain abilities through the Pokémon Dream World and those that don't can be made clearer. For example, on pages of separate abilities there is just one table with normal and PDW pokémon all mixed up, while it would be easier to make separate tables for both. I think this would help both users that own Pokémon Black or White and those that don't. Besides that we could also make a category for "Abilities exclusive to Pokémon Dream World", like {{a|Harvest}}. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 00:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
:On the separate pages, they are specfically listed in a separate column that says "Dream World ability". That seems separate enough. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, but I think it would be easier if for example you are looking for a pokémon that has a certain ability, that you don't have to go through a list of which half of the pokémon are Dream World pokémon. Even for Dream World users like me pokémon in wild and in Dream World are two completely separate things. But yeah, it's not that necessary. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

== Grammar error ==

Being the Grammar Nazi I am, I have spotted an error I can't fix. I accidentally got logged out while editing a userpage, and I noticed there is a lack of space between sentences on the message that explains that new users cannot edit userpages. This is really bothering me, so could anyone with the power to edit the MediaWiki namespace fix it? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
:Done, I think. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

== Update on Message to the Editor ==

[[Template:Main Page/Message from the Editor|'''This''']] should be updated, no? I think people would like to know it's been unlocked [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 02:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
: Very true, its more that a month old [[User:Ruberduck0123|'''Ruber''']][[User talk:Ruberduck0123|'''duck''']][[Special:Contributions/Ruberduck0123|'''0123''']] 07:00, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
::It doesn't matter if it's five months old, he edits it when they have an announcement to make, he doesn't have to update it once a month people!! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 13:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbanews ==

I have a question : Can only staff members report news to bulbanews or can normal users also report --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 15:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Bulbanews is a different wiki altogether. Though they're both part of Bulbagarden, both Bulbapedia and Bulbanews have their own front pages. The information you're looking for is on Bulbanews's front page and if you have any other questions about it, it'd make sense to ask on that talk page rather than this one. [[n:Front page|here's a link, for convenience]] [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 20:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:What Kanjo said is correct, but to answer your question, anyone is allowed to report news to Bulbanews. After submission, an admin or columnist needs to move it out of the draft namespace and into the mainspace. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== Zoroark's Name ==

I think the Ark in its name could be cause it can transform into lots of pokemon like an ark of pokemon and the reason i posted it here cause i cant post it on Zoroark's article . --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 16:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:First of all, if you can't post in an article, inquire in the article's talk page (i.e. [[Talk:Zoroark (Pokémon)]]), not Talk: Main Page. Secondly, that's a real stretch: that's not an actual definition of the word ark, it's just a vague metaphor. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 21:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Before you ask ==

Read the news. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

:Is it for the Japanese anime writer? If so, I suppose Chimecho is more appropriate than Lugia, considering how the little windchime links to places like Mt. Pyre and Sendoff Spring. It can be in greyscale if desired. Besides, what is more favourable aesthetically is that one may include Chingling too, instead of Lugia all over the place. [[User:Rxhar|Rxhar]] 09:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

::It's Lugia because the man is credited with helping to create it. It was on the news post. [[User:Tamah|Tamah]] 23:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

:::Well, it was more than a week by now, someone could remember me who edits the main page? --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 16:14, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

== What'd I do wrong here? ==

[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Starck]]

... What happened? [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
:Just create a page with <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki>.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 13:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

==EV Listings==

I was just thinking of a very useful idea. On the pages for each route, cave, etc, where the wild Pokémon are listen, I was thinking we should add another column after each Pokémon and say "1 Speed," or "2 Attack," or something. That, paired with encounter and level rates would help a great deal in EV training for all different levels. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
:Well, I admit, this would be useful to some people, but this is an encyclopedia, not a walkthrough. Honestly, I don't see why you can't go to the Pokémon's page and check. I'm not for it, but I'm not exactly saying NO. --[[User:Si6x12|'''Si6''']][[User Talk:Si6x12|'''x12''']] 03:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::I agree completely, however, it would be a nice little touch on the page for convenience. I'm not one of them, but I know some people have incredibly slow computers, and I can easily imagine the frustration of those who have slow connections along with a desire to EV train. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 14:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm thinking no, but I do see a use in it. Perhaps {{bp|Project Walkthroughs}} would be a good place to ask. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Putting every possible bit of information is dumb. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:04, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::But that's not what we'd be doing now, is it? We wouldn't be putting their number, or Dex color, or Egg group, or anything like that, just the EV(s) they give. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::The number should already be there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:50, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::::No, I'm talking about on the route pages. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::::Don't make me go on a rant about users and clicking links. If you plan to EV train, then just look up the Pokémon that give EVs in whatever. We're an encyclopedia, not an EV training guide. Do some of your own research, dude. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:15, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::This isn't at all a matter of laziness. Heck, I'd be willing to go around and do a ton of the work, assuming I could figure out how to code it (which I can't) It's just a nice touch of convenience for users, you know? I mean, I'm fine if we don't do it, it's just a suggestion, after all. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 04:39, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

== Redirection Pages ==

Do we really need those redirection pages with one Pokémon used by a character, the TCG link, and the Pokémon link? We already have the Pokémon used by a character and it's TCG links on the page. I understand the ones for like Pikachu, but ones like Mr. Mime and Gengar don't need to be there, do they? [[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 03:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
:This is already being discussed on the forums, so please be patient. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 03:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
::And how soon do we delete {{template|p}}, which I'm sure you all want. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== What to do with Dream World artwork. ==

Currently we use some to replace the Sugimori artwork, but what to do when said artwork is avaiable?. Sincerely i thing it would be a waste to just leave the DW artwork floating alone. Do you agree? We should do something with it.
--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:06, 15 November 2010 (UTC) Sorry, forgot signature
:It would be a waste. Also, how come we don't put up the old artwork on the Pokémon's page? It seems a waste not to include it on the page (especially when some trivia refers to it). [[User:Tesh|Teshigigas]] [[User_talk:Tesh|[Talk]]] 18:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::Old artwork '''''is''''' on the pages, they just change from time to time [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:36, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
:::not really, Ataro. we are going to find a use for the images, but as of late weve had other things to focus on. rest assured, it will be showcased somewhere and in some way. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:01, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::::/me keeps reading the "In the Games" sections of pages (hint). [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 00:47, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::Over at [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Main_Page Zelda wiki]they use a code of sorts that makes a picture change every time you refresh the page. It seemed to use a template called <nowiki>{{RandomLinkImage}}</nowiki> for [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Link this page]. I think I've seen simeler on userpages. It varied page to page. --[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 20:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe each Pokemon's page can feature a gallery of their art from all games. Just a random thought. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 21:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
::Eventually. There's always an issue with doing that though. And that is how many damned exceptions there are. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:13, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Um, doesn't each Pokémon page link to a gallery anyway? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:00, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Em, we could show the artwork in the pages for "special" cases, like ivysaur. Ivysaur has purple colored eyes in the anime and Dream World--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 22:44, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Trading pre-Unova ==

Some pokemon such as [[Bulbasaur]] say that you have to "trade" to get the Pokémon when you actually have to get it through Pokéshift, Dream World, or both? When are we going to change this? —[[User:Zekasaur|♫Ze]][[User talk:Zekasaur|kas]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|aur♫]] 03:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
:It will likely be changed as soon as someone enters that specific information into the tables. If I recall correctly, the template defaults to saying "trade" if no data is entered. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 04:58, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

== Preview ==
You know how it seems that everyone forgets to use the preview when they first come on? Well on NWiki, they have something that makes you show preview, and I was wondering if we could use that here. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 01:30, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:I actually find that incredibly annoying on NWiki. If you are going around making minor edits, such as relinking, it just gets in the way. I'm pretty sure there is an option here to turn it on in preferences if you like it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== File:Ani586WMS.png not displaying ==

Could someone work on this? The file [[a:File:Ani586WMS.png]] isn't showing up on the main page. I checked the Archives and found that the filename is correct, but somehow or another it isn't working. Thanks. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' ''(my [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/Chiefboz|contributions]])'' 15:44, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
:There is nothing that can be done about this. It is just the archives not synchronizing with Bulbapedia. All we can do is wait for it to fix itself. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:28, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hopefully before Christmas...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 03:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:::It was actually displaying when MAGNEDETH added it. It fitted in nicely too... --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::::It seems to be working now. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 17:25, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon SIENNA??? Why do we have NOTHING on this? See video ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQqH2HV7p10&feature=watch_response

I had no idea there was such a thing as a Sienna version of this!! Please, add the article: {{red link|Pokemon Sienna}}. Thanks! --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:27, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe on [[hack games]]. But it probably isn't notable enough. Take it up on the talk page there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:You couls add it to {{red link|rom hacks}}{{unsigned|Ent3r}}
::No. That page does not and will not exist. The correct page is [[hack games]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:57, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
:::On the record, we only add really famous hack games to the [[hack games]] article. I've never heard of this one personally, so it probably doesn't need to be mentioned. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:06, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

== "Pokemon Apokelypse" ==

Anyone seen this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDX1m0Y2Vkg&feature=watch_response_rev

Looks like we don't have an article on it either. Why doesn't anyone create something about this? --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:[[User:ShinyPikachu/Pokémon Apokélypse]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

== Did you know section: "...the typing of the first Unova Gym Leader is depend''a''nt..." ==

Shouldn't that read "depend'''e'''nt"? The spelling that currently appears on the Main Page isn't really accepted in American or British English. [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 19:07, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:Fixed. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

== A search bar? ==

Has Bulbapedia ever considered having a bar that would be used similar to the Google toolbar? It could have a place to search for an article on Bulbapedia, maybe even have a link to the home page, recent changes, bulbawiki forum, the archives, etc. This would mean easy access to not just the wiki, but so that people with the toolbar could get to a specific pafe faster as well! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:16, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:You mean a Bulbapedia Toolbar for a browser? That's something to think about, I guess. Maybe a Firefox addon or something. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
::Yes. That's what I meant. I'm not sure if it is even possible but if it was it would be very useful for viewing and editing Bulbapedia. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 03:34, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I would recommend bringing this up on the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 BulbaWiki forum]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:47, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
I thought there already was a search bar on the bulbagarden main page?
::::Yeah there's one on the main page but it's not accurate like google--[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 22:03, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Try [[Bulbapedia Search Bar Plugin]]. Anyone know how to program? '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 04:45, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Countdown ==

Are we going to have a countdown for the NA release of Black and White? →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:54, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
:Why not. I think it's traditional to keep the Christmas garb up until January 5th, so we can change the colorscheme then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:46, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
::Well can we change the color scheme now?--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:46, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Yep. We do it all the time. If look in the hidden code of [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page&action=edit Template:Main Page], you can see all the alternate ones. Try previewing them on a different page (you won't be able to preview them on Template:Main Page because it is protected). So now that it's the sixth, I guess someone needs to change the colorscheme (I think trom wanted to change to the BW one). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:55, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Klink swap. ==

How in the world did everyone switch giaru with klink so FAST? If anyone thinks this is a funny comment I am a new user--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 01:46, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:Many users, and [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Giaru (Pokémon)]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:18, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::A. It was 3 whole days ago. B. Not many names were revealed. C. The names aren't linked in many places, so it is quick to change them. D. There are tons of people who are available 24/7 to change things as soon as possible. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:28, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

== WHAT HAPPENED?!?! ==

WHAT HAPPENED TO BULBAPEDIA?!?!?!--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 04:48, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
:Nevermind. It's all good now.--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 04:49, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
...What did happen? --'''[[User:Flyingtypefan|~~☆Flyingtypefan☆~~]]''' '''''•[[User talk:Flyingtypefan|Talk]]•''''' '''''[[Delibird (Pokemon)|Holiday cheer]]•''''' 01:32, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== TCG Proposal ==

While looking at some cards from [[Undaunted]], I came across Hariyama. So I clicked it, and the hue was WAY too bright. Could we adopt a darker color for Fighting type pokemon? [[User:TheTheDragon14|TheTheDragon14]] 23:39, 3 January 2011 (UTC)TheTheDragon14
:Specifically [[Hariyama (Undaunted 14)|this card]]? Yes, I agree. It is a bit bright. I suggest you take this to {{bp|Project TCG}}. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 23:57, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

== Log Out ==

I was changing my signature recently and nearly every time I pressed save I got logged out! What's happening? —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 08:42, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
:I am being ignored. Someone help me! —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 10:29, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::I believe the server is having some problems at the moment. See [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=39109&page=18 here] for a little more information. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

== Animated G5 Sprites... ==

Would it be possible to put in the full, animated versions of the sprites from Generation 5? Generation 2 and 3 sprites are animated... I was also wondering if this would just be too much trouble or would overload the server. You can find the sprites [http://www.arkeis.com/animatedsprites.html/ here.] (good website, I think that they're all accurate. Whoever made it did an awesome job). Also, those sprites wouldn't have to be used, it's just the resource that I found. the files are .gif files... Thanks!!! [[User:Bapplesauce|Bapplesauce]] 02:51, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:Some of the BW sprites are animated PNGs. We don't want to use GIFs for Generation IV and V sprites. You have to have Firefox in order to see the animation because some browsers don't support it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:57, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
::Oh, that's right- I always used to find some other animated images on here that wouldn't animate... Okay. Well, if anyone finds another way... or can get more animated PNGs... thanks. [[User:Bapplesauce|Bapplesauce]] 03:40, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Just so you know, you don't have to have Firefox; Opera works as well. However, I think those are the only major browsers that support APNG (IE and Chrome don't, I don't know about Safari). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:52, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

==Redirect problem==
[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:DoubleRedirects&limit=500&offset=0 O_O]. Uh, were these supposed to redirect to SmashWiki? Interwiki table prob? '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|--Havoc]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|48]]''''' 01:14, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:I saw that too! I was confused. →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::Yes the were. It comes with the NIWA affiliation. Unfortunately I'm not sure if there's a way to "fix" these redirects so that they don't appear on that page. It's not a problem though. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 01:25, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:::They do work perfectly fine, but they just fill up that special page. It is a problem with the MediaWiki software. And for the record, only some redirect to SmashWiki; Mario goes to Mario Wiki, Kirby goes to WiKirby etc. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:44, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

==Countdown==
Don't know if anyone agrees with me but shouldn't the countdown be changed to the date of the European release considering it's the first English release of B+W?

Edit - Sorry forgot to sign --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 21:21, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
:Yes, it should. And since it's been confirmed, it now does. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:29, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

I think it should be the north american one.Wasent it that way with platinum?[[User:KylleyFab4Fan|KylleyFab4Fan]] 23:15, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:The European date is the closest thing we have to the English release, I don't know what's wrong with that. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 23:18, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
::To clarify what Jello said, the date we use for the countdown is the ''first'' official ''English'' release date. For Platinum it was the North American date, as the North American date was before the European date. For Black and White the European date is first, so we are counting down to that date. If, by some chance, the next main series game(s) is/are released in Australia and New Zealand first (I wish), then we will count down to that date instead. There will be no preference for one English-speaking location over another. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:48, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Would putting up multiple countdowns overload the server?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 18:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon of the Week ==

We most make a Pokemon of the Week column. Almost every site makes one.
I`m sorry i didn`t sign. --Other help is what i can do. 16:56, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Arceus (Pokémon)/Archive 2

2011-01-19T19:47:24Z

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==Archives==
*[[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (discussions from October 13, 2006 – December 13, 2008)

== Hmmm.... ==

Is the color and box from the Tutoring Moveset (I think) supposed to be expanding past the sprite box? I see the Rock type stuff, if that matters. (No, I don't think it is my browser, other Pokémon's pages are still fine) [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 14:13, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:I have fixed it stop the problem was that he closed the time, not the tutor box stop[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

==Out of intrest==

Has anyone tried to see if Arceus' ??? type forme is in PBR? [[User:Zsaberslash|Zsaberslash]] 20:52, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
:And possibly in Platinum, as well? In a method other than cheating? --[[User:Bulbapedian|Bulbapedian]] - [[User talk:Bulbapedian|Talk]] 20:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

== Picture ==

Instead of fanart
...shouldn't we use something OFFICIAL
even if its just a PBR screenshot, or a sprite
--[[User:LilRed|LilRed]] 00:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
:The fanart fulfills our needs best. Besides, the official artwork is only a couple of months away now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 00:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
::If they'll release an official artwork of Arceus, does it mean that Arceus is officially released also?[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 06:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Yes, this is what it would seem like. It's predicted to be released at a similar time to the next movie. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:56, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
::::How on Earth did whoever drew that picture get it so perfect when the sprite is so tiny? They must have got something wrong surely? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 19:36, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yes, the artist, Seyanni, did get several details wrong from what we now know about the features of Arceus. First of all, the face has two lines running across it, not just one. There are grey triangles on the inside of each of its legs, and the red parts of its eyes have black slits, like Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina. In addition, the wheel is more pointed and the green circles he/she drew are actually gems. So, really, like I've said before, this fanart is far from accurate, but now there's really no need to replace it (though I've given the site several months to use my own artwork (http://xous54.deviantart.com/art/Arceus-Final-106548360), which is, of course, more accurate) when Arceus is set to be revealed on the 15th (with a leak anywhere from the 12th to the 14th). (Of course, the Pokémon set to be revealed could also be something else.) [[User:Xous|Xous]] 18:16, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

== Reveal ==

Looking at Darkrai and Shaymin's, it seems that the reveal will be just around February 14, 2009. Isn't that convenient. So I'd like to notify you all... don't bother with it until then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:52, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it is expected to be leaked today, and officially revealed on January 19.--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 13:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

:Listen to the Editor-in-Chief. Don't bother until the reveal. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 13:54, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

And TTE is right. I think he has psychic abilities. -[[User:Anangryzapdos|Anangryzapdos]] 19:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

== ???-type Explanation Doesn't Make Sense ==

One of our members brought up a good point about the explanation (in this article) about why Nintendo put the ??? Arceus in the game. We think that it was put in because Nintendo's code for Multitype required a sprite to be filled for every single type. This is our best guess, and I certainly think it's more plausible than "preventing game crashes for hackers." Hackers can crash the game quite easily otherwise - why would they prevent it in one way when we can do it in a thousand other ways? Remember, Nintendo doesn't care for or even acknowledge hackers. -[[User:Coolbho3000|Coolbho3000]] 00:33, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:Following that logic, why put a vestigial Safari Zone in GSC? Why make it harder to access MissingNo in Yellow and impossible in FrLg? Like it or not, Nintendo has put many things in for the purpose of preventing crashes. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 04:59, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
::The Safari Zone in G/S/C was there because it was originally supposed to be in there, but they decided later not to include it. And Missingno. was excluded from later games because it was a glitch that was accessible without cheats. They took it out for the same reason that they hire game testers: they want their games to be as glitch-free as possible. And it did cause crashes, but it could be accessed without cheats, unlike the ???-type Arceus. I agree with Coolbho.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 13:51, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Animated sprite. ==

It doesn't change for me. It's just the regular Arceus. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:57, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:you maam are using Internet Explorer. that is an animated .png, which your browser does not support. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:59, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::Don't you think that's a little unfair for people who prefer to user IE? What's wrong with just using a gif file? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:02, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::lesser quality. take it up with TTE. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:03, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::You should use Firefox. D: -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 01:05, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I have used it and I hated it. It made my computer move incredibly slow. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:16, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::How many addons did you give it? That's usually what kills it. I mean, mine's running using 118,784K, next most is Windows Explorer with not even 10% of that much. It's a given with the 13 extensions I have for it... Anyway, Opera's most recent release supports anipngs too, or so I've heard. Given, I plan to make ''that'' specific spritecycle a gif again, since the whole point of that is to animate. Other anipngs you don't lose much with them being not animated. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:35, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Google chrome doesn't accept anipngs, and firefox takes an age to start up for me. I also hate IE. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|f80|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|f80|Ori}}{{Colored link|User:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|08f|gami}}''' 11:28, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::: It works on opera just fine, Who uses IE nowadays anyway? And Mozilla's slow.... too slow.--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]-[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 11:52, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Anyway, I recommend you try Opera, if you haven't done so. It's light, fast, simple to use, secure, stable, complete and free so you don't have to worry. And it'll still work with Windows 98. XD Besides, it's MS's fault for not giving better support for web standards 'cause it's "cooler" to use their own. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:45, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

== ???-type arceus existance ==

If anyone can hack platinum and try changing arceus' type to ???-type and it appears then its existance is official, anybody care and try?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 12:22, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:We have the sprite. That's all the proof you need. '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 14:01, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

sorry, forgot about that. --[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 14:03, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

== origin ==

there is a legend in arab myths that says that god created a horse from the north wind and it was the frist being on earth, arceus is a horse and the first Pokémon in existance, should we add this to the origin part in the article?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:29, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:That seems more like an origin for Suicune, because of the north wind bit... Though Suicune isn't a horse. I don't know, it might be a legitimate origin.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 14:15, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Arceus reminds me of the andalites from the animorphs books except it only has two eyes and no arms or tail. However in the movie it can speak with telepathy. Did any one else notice the similarities or am I just insane?--[[User:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] 17:41, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

== ... ==

I saw this likely vandalism in the tivia section:

At level 80, Arceus is the second highest level non-glitch Pokémon available for capture. The highest is Magikarp which can be caught at level 100 in Pokémon Platinum. It is, however, still the highest level legendary Pokémon available for capture.

I am hoping this is a joke or vandalism.

[[User:Alakazam 2|Alakazam 2]]

:Check {{p|Magikarp}}'s article. It's a legit piece of trivia. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 07:04, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

==Official Art==
Here we have it, Sugimori's Art for it, taken directly from the site.
<img>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/export/sites/default/special/arcus/img/arcus_01.jpg</img>--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 02:18, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:http://i42.tinypic.com/23s8bon.png Is that acceptable? I got it from the Japanese site. I know, it's a bit small.. --×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 02:39, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::the official image is already on the page. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:49, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:::OIC. I posted the wrong image, though. Twas an anime art. D: ×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 10:33, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::::PokéBeach has cut out all of the arts, including the official art, but WPM has requested that nobody use that art.
--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 15:00, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::::: Is their any artwork for the other types, or just Normal typed Arceus?[[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 22:19, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
New artwork (actually biggest):[[Image:Arceus lg.png|thumb|200px]]--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 01:57, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

==U.S. Reveal==

Since the page is locked, can one of the mods make a note about how it has not been revealed in the U.S., and probably won't be until early next year. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:44, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
:That's Anime art. Official Art is similar to it's Platinum Sprite.--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 03:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
::What does that have to do with my post? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I'll answer. That's not necessary to say. Besides, it's speculation. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:12, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Type-change grammar ==

Due to the special coding for Multitype, if the page changes to Electric or Ice, the grammar in the article becomes incorrect, displaying as "a Electric-type" or "a Ice-type". Since I have no idea how the coding works, and the fact that the page is protected anyway, would it be possible for someone to fix that bit of grammar on the Zap and Icicle versions of the page?

A minor error, but an error nonetheless. [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 03:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

:Thanks for fixing it, TTE. [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 04:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Just realized the same grammar error is on this talk page... [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 22:06, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

:Should be fixed now... [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 22:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== Typer effectiveness box for ??? type ==

Considering the the ??? type can show up at random on this page should a type effectiveness box show up for it too? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 16:23, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:I guess I could do it. I don't know the numbers though, ar all types just normal effective?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 16:27, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::??? has no strengths and weaknesses; all types are normal. Learned this from {{m|Weather Ball}} and {{m|Shadow Sky}}. [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 16:50, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Just remembered that the page is protected so I can't actually change it. LOL!--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:44, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Don't bother. One, there's no way to access ??? Arceus, so it doesn't matter, and two, the type effectiveness of anything against the ???-type is NORMAL DAMAGE. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:48, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

==Arceus to be in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky!==

Hi everybody, I just got information from Serebii.net today confirming Arceus will appear in the game as well as several other things as well. So the '''In Side Games''' section you can put that Arceus will make it's Mystery Dungeon debut in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky. --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 19:00, 12 March 2009 (UTC)Dialgafan1
:Unfortunately, it only appears as a statue and can't actually be encountered or recruited.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 14:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== English Pokémon Platinum Pokédex Entry. ==

The anglish Pokémon Platinum Pokédex Entry has been confirmed as ''"It is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing, then shaped the world. "'' May someone edit the page to include this? [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 20:43, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== Talk page glitch ==

I noticed when Arceus' page is ???-Type, the message on the top of the page says "DON'T ASK WHY ARCEUS IS A NORMAL-TYPE! It just IS!", incorrectly... [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 20:48, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
:It's because it changes on the second you access the page. Since you accessed the talk page on a different second than the article, it's different. If you go on the page and wait ''exactly'' 18 seconds (or a multiple thereof) then check here it should be good.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 20:54, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== US Platinum dex entry/page unlock ==

Can someone ''please'' unlock the page so that the English ''Platinum'' Dex entry can be added? And why was it even locked in the first place? [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 12:13, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
:Because of the upcoming movie and some impatient users. --'''[[User:Prongs|Prongs]] '''([[User Talk:Prongs|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Prongs|Contributions]])''' 12:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
::I you want, you can just add the entry here so that once admins are around, they could place it in the article. '''◄[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]►''' 12:16, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Someone already posted the Dex entry above me, but I guess I'll just copypaste it: ''It is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing, then shaped the world.'' And yes, I would want an admin to put it in if it's going to remain locked until the movie's release. [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 12:19, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Done. Thanks guys for noticing this. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 21:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

== Protected ==

Why is this page protected?--[[User:Tmwps|Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales]] 10:01, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:<nowiki>*</nowiki>cough* [[Movie 12]] *cough* '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 10:26, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

== Event Moves ==

Should the Event Moves (Spacial Rend, Roar of Time, Shadow Force) be added to its moveset? It knows these at Level 100 at the Japanese event this summer. {{unsigned|JacobCrystal}}

== Should we insert the Movie Arceus event? ==

I mean, Corocoro had already revealed that there is going to be an event in HGSS unlocked by Movie Arceus where the player can choose a Level 1 Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina. I think it should be worth noting that they should mention this in this article. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 13:19, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== Name origin ==

Hey guys, an idea had just sprouted in my head. The name might also come from the latin verb ''arceo'', which roughly translates to "I watch from a distance".
/[[User:Ziemniax|Ziemniax]]
:Actually, that word means "enclose". But it could still be a name origin, since Arceus was enclosed in the Hall of Origin.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 14:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Both of you are right. if it has a long e then it means "I watch from a distane" but a short e means "enclose"--[[User:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] 17:29, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus catch Trivia ==
As a point in the trivia I think it should be mentioned that Arceus is the only trio master (as of yet and i suspect always will be) not catchable by typical in-game mechanics instead needing to obtain an item solely distributed by a Nintendo event. All others are obtainable in their original generations via typical methods (i.e. just a simple in-game event or simply trading from a complimentary version) rather than and individual physically having to go to a Nintendo event to receive an item that cannot be obtained in games. I'm sorry if this point seems to sound redundant but I'm not sure if everyone will understand what I mean. -- [[User:D558|D558]] 06:21, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
:Psh, who says you have to go outside? You can WFC the Azure Flute... eventually... presumably... likely... in the future. But yes, that's a good point. Do it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:24, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
::I dunno if the page is protected or if my ability to edit pages has been taken away but I can't add this trivia... I guess i'll have to wait until it is unprotected or someone else will have to state this fact -- [[User:D558|D558]] 18:50, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible to have playable MP3 files to get Pokemon cries? I'm getting confused as to what Arceus' sounds like, because the text box says ''Dodogyuuun!'' and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcHrs4MXuzQ this movie]] has mediocre sound graphics and sounds like a hi-pitched vibrating and '''''Ayeayeaye!''''' - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] ([[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Giratina's_Embodiment|contribs]])'' 19:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
:I think Filb.de has them. I had all the Sinnoh ones at one point, but I may have deleted them when iTunes tried to be stupid with them. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:10, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
::[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/cries/493.mp3 Have a ball.] '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:27, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus infobox at the top of this page ==

Shouldn't this be in the article instead? What is it doing here? -- [[User:Socob|Socob]] ( [[User_talk:Socob|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Socob|Contribs]] ) 13:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:TTE found them too distracting for the articles. Here it's mostly a warning not to ask why Arceus is {{arceustype}}.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 16:39, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::I see. It does seem to be kind of messed up, too. -- [[User:Socob|Socob]] ( [[User_talk:Socob|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Socob|Contribs]] ) 12:48, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS Overworld ==

Isn't that cool if the page have the HGSS overworld?, other pokemon too {{unsigned|Arceus Vs Dragon Trio}}
:These will most likely be included somehow; we just need to work out where. It's been what, a day? Give us some time to get the images first. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:37, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== Name ==

Apparently (due to the Austrailian trailer floating around the Internets) Arceus's name is pronouced ARK-eus. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 13:11, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:There are so many pronunciations out there that Bulbapedia doesn't keep track of them. In the past there have been discrepancies between the anime and the "official" books, and even between multiple episodes of the anime. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:38, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

== 1000 arms??? ==

umm... just wondering...why does the Pokédex entry say that it has 1000 arms? I was looking at it and it has four hooves, no arms? Isn't it kind of weird to say it has 1000 arms and then when you see it it has no arms (or four if you count hooves as arms)?--[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 00:16, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
:Well, Arceus could retract them. Ask on the forums, because that is where this belongs. ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 00:30, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

== Okay ==

Derp. Hey. Multiform things always have the show/hide option because their other types can be freely switched to at will. Keep it that way. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:25, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

== Special Moves ==

Okay, someone really ought to add Shadow Force, Spacial Rend and Roar of Time to the "by events" section. If no one edits it or gives me a reason not to, I will add this ----GEN1[[User:Gen1king|KING]] ''([[User talk:TALK]])'' 04:49, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
:I have added the event moves section to the page. thank you.
----GEN1[[User:Gen1king|KING]] ''([[User talk:TALK]])'' 05:24, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
::Thank you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:25, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

==Arceus HAS appeared in side games==

WiiWare Mystery Dungeon. Need I say more? [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 17:30, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
:Agreed. So where is he in the game and i will gladly add it. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 12:48, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
::Cmon. Someone must know! [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:06, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Lol. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 16:25, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Come on! Come on! [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:56, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
arceus appears as a statue in explores of sky and in the new mystery dungeion pokeexlpores for the wii[[User:ArceusLX|arceusLX leveled up!]] 00:56, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

In mystery dungeon for wiiware, Arceus appears in a Wonder Mail W mission downloadable from wifi. It takes place in either final mountain, final cave, or final island. [[User:67h5r6h|67h5r6h]] 22:06, 18 July 2010 (UTC)67h5r6h

== Another possible name origin. ==

Could its name come from {{wp|arcus cloud}}? {{unsigned|Taromon777}}
:Likely not. The current ones seem more plausible to me. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:52, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

== Movie 12 Arceus ==

If you trade the Movie 12 Arceus from an English HG to an english SS, then can the event be activated in both games?[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 00:49, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:Most likely. When they come out we'll know for sure after somebody gets that far in both games. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 02:14, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

== Side Game Data ==

It appears in the new Ranger game. Someone should add it.--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 19:04, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

== Side Game Data ==

It appears in the new Ranger game. Someone should add it.--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 19:04, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:Added ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 13:57, 5 May 2010 (UTC))

==Image==
Umm... in article it's say "art from platinum" and on the image file it's say "released in HeartGold/SoulSilver. So, it's from Platinum or from HG/SS?
:Fixed. It looks to me like no-one got around to changing the caption when the art was updated. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 18:51, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

== Magic Plate? ==

I own a Diamond and Pearl guide that tells you what to do after you beat the game, and it has a section in there about the Underground. In it, it has a list of items you can find, and in that list, they have a Magic Plate. I don't know what's going on, because nobody's mentioned it before. Perhaps it's because I got an early version of the book? [[User:Pawsrent|Pawsrent]] 18:25, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe a beta name for the Mind Plate? How many plates does it list? If it only lists 16 plates than it may be a typo/beta name for one of the existing plates. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:57, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

== Article vandalism/Error in code ==

It seems that all moveset, type and all other special coding from section Type effectiveness -> With Mind Plate up to Name Origin is either wrong or Media Wiki has some problems parsing it. --[[User:PewnyPL|PewnyPL]] 19:46, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:Do you mean something where it shows a bunch of red links, because if so, I see it to. It is also in the template size exceeded category. I think it has too many templates being used. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 19:59, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::Yup, that's what I meant. And the thing about exceeding number of templates seems possible --[[User:PewnyPL|PewnyPL]] 20:05, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Given that all those redlinks are existing templates, it seems that yes, it is due to too many templates. The main question is how to reduce that without losing information. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:17, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Well, there are two things I can think of.
::::One of them is creating a new Pokéathlon Template, that would contain all of the Plates (specially for Arceus) with would require only to use the template with stats from all of them (although I'm not sure if there is a limit to how much data you can hand over to a template)
::::The second one is to change all link-Templates (those that just generate links to other articles) to normal links to articles
::::--[[User:PewnyPL|PewnyPL]] 20:30, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

== Highest level legendary? ==

Wasn't there a level 100 event Regigigas? [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 00:19, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:The article says available for capture. You don't need to capture the Regigigas. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 00:48, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

== 13,933? ==

Excuse me if I'm wrong, but the formula (as stated [[Experience#Gain_in_battle|here]]) makes a captured Arceus give (even if the owner's Pokémon is foreign and traded) only 7,071(.428571) at level 100. 
a= 2.2 
b= 225 
L=100. 
2.2 × 225 = 495 495 × 100 = 49,500 49,500 ／ 7 = 7,071.428571. Either this page is wrong, the formula is, or I am. Thanks [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 16:46, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:You have ''b'' as 225, but it's 255. That's your error. --[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 16:52, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::I just did the math with 255 as ''b'', and by my calculations, even with a foreign language Arceus and a Lucky Egg, the total experience earned would be 12,021. That's odd. :/--[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 16:57, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I got that the first time too. Sorry, I should of used the history on my calculator. Well, which is wrong then? How do we find out? [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 12:52, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Just did the math. I am getting 13,933. I did this:
(1.7 * 1.5 * 1.5 * 255 * 100)/7

(Wining pokemon foreign traded * Opposing pokemon owned by trainer * Wining pokemon holding lucky egg * base exp * level 100)/7
[[User:Mark342|Mark342]] 21:35, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

:They have changed the formula. It didn't work before. This [[File:Exp.png]] is the previous one. The new one works. Thanks anyway, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 21:13, 27 July 2010 (UTC).

== Explorers of Sky ==

I have tried, but I can't get rid of the part on the [[template:Sidegame|Sidegame]] template that includes Explorers of Sky. It wasn't in the Game, so does anyone know how to get rid of this? It's a little misleading. Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 23:03, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

== Name origin ==

About the name origin. For me, the most simple theory is not so clearly mentioned in the current name origin section. My theory is: Arceus is just a transcription of "archeos" from latin (meaning archaich). This was confirmed with the newest trailers that pronounce "Arceus" exactly like "archeos" is pronounced. It is the most direct and simple someone can think of, it's more or less the same process used for other Pokémon name such as Luvdisc, since "luv" has the same pronountiation as "love".

== izanagi and izanami ==

If Japan and Gods is created, it seems to be worth describing to trivia. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 12:37, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

My remark on the page of the edit became interrupted. Arceus lives in the interior of Spear Pillar. There are a spear and a point of contact of the creation of the Shintoism myth. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 07:27, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:But would that not mean that Arceus would have to be two, and not one? I think Dialga and Palkia, both met at Spear Pillar itself, better represent the two, with Giratina representing what happened to Izanami after Kagu-tsuchi burned her. Arceus created the universe... Dialga and Palkia were the ones who created Spear Pillar, and from it, Sinnoh. Arceus is above them. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:49, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

::Thank you for correcting my English.
::It is said that it is izanami and izanagi that it gave birth to the gods for the first time by the myth of Shintoism. Kunitokotachi and Amenominakanushi doesn't make the gods though Kunitokotachi and Amenominakanushi is the first god. There are izanami(izanagi) and a lacking part because neither Dialga nor Palkia make "Legend pokeomn". It is guessed that the ability of izanagi and izanami that creates the gods is equipped in Arceus.
::I am satisfied with the sentence that Mr. TTEchidna corrected. It is not necessary to discuss it any further.
[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 08:33, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

== Colour Changing Articles ==

I know but it seems kind of pointless, when I fist read the article I thought you'd made a mistake calling it a Dragon-type and when I scrolled down I thought you'd lost your marbles when you were indicating pokeathlon stats for its Bug forme specifically. The Pokedex on the games treats it as a Normal-type. We don't have different coloured articles for Kecleon or Castform and they don't need to be holding special items to change forme. I think leaving it as Normal-type is most convenient and less confusing, also we have articles displaying what TMs and HMs it can learn as different types so why bother with all this. [[User:Lucky V4.0|Lucky V4.0]] 14:27, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:Its probably because Arceus has different Performance stats for its forms, its attack has different type for plate held, and because its sprite changes too. Too just list it all would make the page too long if it weren't hidden. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:32, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
::I'm not suggesting have everything listed for all types. However it would be easier to select which type you want instead of it being random each time. [[User:Lucky V4.0|Lucky V4.0]] 15:22, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:::I know. But I'm pretty sure with {{bp|wikicode}} you can't do that, unless each type had their own page. At least with the random function you have a 1/17 chance of getting the one you want. If not, then just use the show/hide function. The only difference would be the template colors. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:32, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== Type Change ==

I've ranted on this subject time and time again but isn't it misleading for someone to come across this article and for it to say that Arceus is a Ghost or Ice type (or whatever type that shows up) when Arceus is Normal-type but changes due to an item. This is no different than making Kecleon's page change types randomly because of Color Change, except for what color Arceus changes to, or listing every Pokémon with the chance of having the ability Mummy since any Pokémon except for Arceus and Shedinja can have the Mummy ability. I believe that Arceus needs to be listed as a Normal type as it naturally is when no items are held, just like how Kecleon is when it hasn't been hit by a foe's move or how a Marill is before being hit by a foe with the ability mummy. Does anyone else agree? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:37, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
:How is it misleading? The intro sentence of this artticle clearly states: "Arceus (Japanese: アルセウス Arceus) is a Normal-type legendary Pokémon. However, its type will change when it is holding one of sixteen items known as plates and can in reality be any type. " —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 21:42, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, exactly it says it's a Normal-type (Because naturally it is) while the templates might say it's a Poison-type when this isn't always the case, yeah so it's not always Normal-type either but may I remind you of Kecleon? Or maybe we can say that its type "varies", but I'd rather leave the templates as if it's a Normal-type. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:15, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
:::What's the big deal? The Kecleon example you are using... the type is not permanent after battle, hence why Porygon nor Pokémon with Camouflage is on here as well. Kecleon and Porygon... they were Normal-type prior to battle, and they are still Normal-type after battle. The difference is that Arceus's type is permanent from before battle and after battle. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:18, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Yeah, but it isn't a natural Water or Grass-type, it is a Water or Grass type only when holding their respective plates, but naturally, without the use of an item, Arceus is a Normal-type, if they came up with an item called Aqua Sponge that turned Water-types into Normal-types we wouldn't make every Water-type Pokémon's page rotate from Normal to Water, of course I know the difference is that would be affecting a lot more pages but I still think it's misleading and somewhat confusing with the Forme rotation. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 01:14, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::It changes because it's a form difference if Kecleon changed its sprite then we could do something with it.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 04:23, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::Kecleon does not actually change forms; if {{a|Color Change}} counted as changing forms, we could say that all Pokémon do due to Color Change being {{m|Skill Swap}}pable. However, Arceus does actually change forms. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:37, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Isn't that why we have this, [[File:Arceus Formes.gif]] in order to demonstrate all formes? In fact we could use something like this in the sprite template couldn't we? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 19:40, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I agree with Landfish7. This whole page changing is crazy!--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 19:47, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

== Dream art in info box ==

Yeah. It's pretty cool it changes with the type. But... every other article uses Sugimori art. And it's better looking. So... what do we do here? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:49, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
:I thought the plan was to have them alternate every so often between normal and Dream... I'd definitely keep the Normal art for now though.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 22:47, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
::It uses the game artwork when the page is on the {{type|???}}. [[Typhlosion|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon|★]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]] 22:51, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Bulbasaur (Pokémon)

2011-01-14T00:42:22Z

Celibi25: /* Generation V sprites */ new section

Hey can we not have Bulbasaur link to Deoxys in the directory? We're going to get new pokemon and it'd just be better to not have the pokemon in a loop. It'd save sanity for when we get the 4th Gen. I'm trying to fix it now[[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 21:07, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

How so? Just change Deoxys on the Bulbasaur page to whatever the new last one should be when necessary - a single page edit. It's not like there's going to be tons of new pokemon every day. [[User:Sheep|Sheep]] 21:25, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Ok. Let me fix it but if you think I'm gonna relink all 386 pokemon with Meowth again like yesterday..You're nuts.[[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 21:36, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

No Deo-Bulba link. It's not circular. [[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 21:53, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Before all these Pokemon pages are redone, should nav be up on top as well as on bottom, or easily locating the nav, no matter how long the page? --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

This doesn't really relate, but could we add some possibilities to what certain Pokemon are based off of? As well as what names seem to be based off of? Like Bulbasaur=bulb+dinosaur, or Bulbasaur appears to be a dinosaur? Just asking here because it's a Pokemon page with lots of activity {{unsigned|Surskitty}}

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I'm going to try to automate changing all the navigations for all the Pokemon. Hopefully no one starts editing before I get my script working. I may still be a good hour away from perfecting it. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]
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Great. I don't feel like changing them all since we spent so long putting them there to begin with. [[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 01:46, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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Can you believe I spend *36* minutes trying to get this working, trying things, and the problem with my script was an "&" missing? I'll start mass-updating the pages after I ensure there are no problems, and write a looper. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]
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I can believe it. But, I thought we weren't going to loop to Deoxys? Evan said we weren't It's going to be a bit of a pain with the new Pokemon. Not to mention we have to put Munchlax and Rukario in there somewhere.[[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 02:59, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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Would there be a template problem without the looping? If not, then anyone can freely unloop them. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

There is so far. I'm debating whether to make a special template for Deo and Bulba. {{unsigned|Evkl}}

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That should be easy enough. Make a "next" template and a "previous" template, and have the NextPrevious template combine these, right? --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

Perhaps - the problem would then be developing a template to wrap the blue box around it. Or we could just cheat and duplicate code as needed. (Also, I thought you had the Bulbabot account at your disposal to do these automatic changes (they pollute the Recent changes page otherwise)). Also, your bot is a little too overzealous with the &lt; conversion - some HTML tags are also valid in Wiki. - [[User:Zhen Lin|刘 (劉) 振霖]] 07:15, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The &lt; was a mistake because of how I managed the text (along with viewing it in the browser before I had all the find/replace working): download, change < to &lt;, then change newlines to BR tags, then modify, then change BR tags back to new lines, then replace the &lt;. I had forgotten about the &lt; in comments. In the end, it turned out I didn't even need to bother with less-than signs, as the textarea box doesn't even use HTML. As for BulbaBot, I don't remember the password, and it wasn't in .bash_history, nor did I feel up to checking my GAIM log. But if I knew that it wouldn't show up in recent changes, I would have done that. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

== Moves ==

The version isn't specified, and there is already a page format allocated for this. If you just want to test things, you can do it on a seperate page. Or just use the "Show preview" button. --[[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 02:52, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

We know...we're discussing the best way to handle it. I would appreciate it if you wouldn't have any snide comments. We're in a chat right now dealing with it. If you would like to be included in the BMG mod chat please AIM someone.[[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 03:01, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

== Don't mean to impose, but... ==

Have you considered using the setup given by the Pokémon WikiProject at Wikipedia? The articles seems to be more a guide on how they are in the games, instead of their relevance in the game/anime/manga/TCG. Compare [[Wikipedia:Bulbasaur]] with [[Bulbasaur]], for instance. - [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] 00:02, 7 September 2005 (CDT)

I'm sorry, that wasn't terribly clear - what do you mean? What is lacking on the Bulbapedia article? Is it just a matter of depth covered (we might be the biggest Pokémon wiki encyclopedia, but we don't get the kind of activity Wikipedia gets) - or something else? As far as I can see, the Wikipedia articles are structured quite like ours. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 03:36, 7 September 2005 (CDT)
:The articles just need some fleshing out. - [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] 06:34, 7 September 2005 (CDT)
::Then it's nothing to be concerned about. Nothing is ever "done" - it's always open for improvement. Admittedly, it would be nice to have it fleshed out, but we simply don't have the kind of activity Wikipedia gets... so unless you're volunteering to do the work or help convince others to come contribute their work to Bulbapedia, you're just going to have to wait. Bulbapedia, like the Pokémon WikiProject, relies on volunteered work. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 07:07, 7 September 2005 (CDT)

== GameShark/Action Replay Codes? ==

Someone want to put up an explanation for we non-cheating types what the heck those codes are for and why they're in the article? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 06:25, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
:Indeed. They're gone now. The same user also made a dubious edit to the GS Ball article. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 11:01, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

== Sprites! ==

that whole table of the different sprites is very, very, cool. i am thinking perhaps that could become the Project Spritedex? something or another...anyways, i am just letting everybody out there know i would be eager to help get files of the different sprites for you guys...thanks [[User:bill33421]]
PS: the emerald shiny sprite is missing
:Actually, the sprites fall under {{bp|Project Pokédex}}. And yes, I know the Emerald shiny sprite is missing... I haven't been able to find it. If you can add the sprites to Bulbagarden Archives, well, more power to you. Just make sure to upload them with the proper filename. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 11:22, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:interesting...so yes, i will try to get them, but if i could ask, how do '''you''' get them? is there a site that i can find pics on then upload to bulbagarden? or should i crop screenshots of games?
*There are several sites out there with sprites. Pokemon elite 2000 and upokecenter are good candidates; however it is better to do them yourself. I am going to attempt to fill in all the missing sprites for the first generation- I have (nearly) uploaded all the normal and shiny crystal sprites. (all from 10-111)--[[User:Cadellin|Cadellin]] 13:32, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

[[User:Bill33421|Bill33421]] 19:42, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

== Diet ==

What up wit the diet? We're talking about Pokémon, fictional creatures, here, not animals, very few have their own individual diets and most of them just have a link to the Pokémon food main article, I just don't see the point in it. -[[Image:Ani491MS.gif]][[User:Kpokefan|K]][[User Talk:Kpokefan|P]][[Darkrai (Pokémon)|F]]
:Think about it: is it better to have a link to an article or have nothing link to the article on Pokémon food? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:15, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== First Pokemon ==

this part of the trivia section:

"# Bulbasaur is the first dual-type Pokémon in National Dex order.
# Bulbasaur is the first Grass Pokémon in National Dex order.
# Bulbasaur is the first Poison Pokémon in National Dex order.
# Bulbasaur is the first Pokémon in the National Dex order. "

This sounds rediculous, we know Bulbasaur is the first pokemon, so we don't need to say it is the first poison type, grass type, and dual type. ([[User:GT4GTR|--●[[User:GT4GTR|'''GT4GTR''']] [[User talk:GT4GTR|''/ talk /'']]]] 10:05, 22 April 2008 (UTC))

== Movesets ==

Someone should make it so that the moveset ''changes'' to the correct generation when you click on it, rather than linking to a seperate page. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 00:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:<s>That's exactly what it does for me. Maybe it's something to do with your browser.</s> Wait never mind. Well I'll leave a job like that to someone who knows his way around wiki coding.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:03, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:: im not sure if thats possible. TTE made the templates, youll have to bring it up with him. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

== Bulbabye? ==

I was watching the first movie again the other day, and in the Pikachu Short, Ash's Bulbasaur used the "Bulba-Bye" on Togepi. I came to check, but it wasn't here. Wouldn't that be something to put in the Behavior section or something like that? [[User:Dlt4|DLT4]] 04:50, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure it would be "Bulba-by," to fit with "lullaby." Anyway, it would actually probably be more appropriate on [[Ash's Bulbasaur]], since this doesn't seem to exist outside of the Anime and I think that's the only Bulbasaur that used it. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 04:56, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking that too - but Dexter said it was the 'first recording' of it, possibly implying that others do it too. [[User:Dlt4|DLT4]] 22:11, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

:Actually, it implies the exact opposite, if you think about it, considering Dexter was talking DURING the event. Dexter ain't psychic. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 22:18, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

== Problem ==

I have problems viewing the sprite section. When I press the show button it looks sort of distorted. I took a screenshot and I'll upload what it looks like within 5 minutes and post it here. I've tryed it multiple times and it might just be my computer or it might be an error in the system.--[[User:23-03-33]] 21:45, 5 September 2008 (UTC) Here is the image and as you can see the evolution overlaps the sprite page for some reason. [[User:23-03-33]]
:[http://www.getfirefox.com I have a solution]. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:04, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:: Alternatively, get a new IE. I have IE7 and it works fine here. You seem to have... 6? --[[User:Kyoufu Kawa|Kyoufu Kawa]] 07:05, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:: IE7 did make it show up right. thanks for your help. -- [[User:23-03-33]] 07:45, 6 September 2008 (EST)
:::Which leaves us with a problem.What about with the random people who come to this site expecting a good page and the Evoluition box overlaps in the Sprite section....--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Talk]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Contributions))]]
Cant we put a link on the front page that says "This Website is Best Viewed in Mozilla Firefox" or whatever those say? [[User:Dlt4|DLT4]] 04:16, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
:Likely. Or plaster GET FIREFOX ads all over the freakin' place... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:45, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
::I like TTE's idea, but it's not rational. We should just put a notice on the main page space thingy bob. [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 16:22, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Even with IE6, if you open the sprite box, expand the window to full screen and shrink it back down again, everything lines up correctly. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:53, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
::::That Seems...Inconvenient To Me. [[User:Cal05000|cal05000]] 08:08, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Can MediaWiki do user-agent sniffing? That's a possible solution. Regardless, Firefox isn't the only good browser, nor is it the best browser. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 18:41, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

== Sprites ==
I'm not sure if anyones noticed but Bulbasaur's Platinum non shiny sprite is wrong... and i thought that only 4th gen and sinnoh dex pokemon got new sprites--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 08:25, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I just checked that and you're right, someone needs to fix it--Pokelova 18:33, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

== werid thing ==

When I was on venasor's (sorry for bad spelling), I wanted to see Bulbasaur's page, so I clicked on the name under it's image and when I got on the page it stated "Get a life losers" could someone please fix that. thanks ♥luna13♥

:It's already been fixed. [[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[User talk:Chocolate|Chat with Me]]) 16:39, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

::Who would be dumb enough to put "Get a life losers" on bulbapedia. Its disgraceful! --[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad10]] ([[User talk:Usyflad10|talk]]) 23:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Sprites ==
Anyone else see the shiny sprites are animated? Are the shiny Bulbasaurs in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum animated? {{SUBST::User:SLE aman/Signature}} 01:09, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:Yes. And no, the DPPt sprites aren't animated. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:23, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
::More accurately, they are animated in the game, but for some reason we're only animating the Platinum sprites.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:16, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

== Generation III Learnsets ==

Just a quick question, why don't the other generation learnsets lead to the next Pokémon, like with the PokémonPrevNext thing? ''[[User:ShinjiLover|シンジ]]'''''[[Paul|Shinji]]'''[[User talk:ShinjiLover|Lover]],'''[[Special:Contributions/ShinjiLover|Edits]]''' 21:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
:Um...why would they? --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 23:21, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
::Uh, so it would be EASY to move through the Pokémon? Duh. ''[[User:ShinjiLover|シンジ]]'''''[[Paul|Shinji]]'''[[User talk:ShinjiLover|Lover]],'''[[Special:Contributions/ShinjiLover|Edits]]''' 23:23, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

== Gen III Move sets Wrong ==

My Fire Red Bulbasaur didn't learn sweet scent until level 25. I'm not sure about the rest of the moves, but growth should have been offered at level 25 instead, and I still don't have that by 26. I'll update as I learn new moves. {{unsigned|Coldshrike}}
:Done. I already fixed it, thanks for letting us know. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 12:42, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Cry ==

Bulbasaur's cry is a lower-pitched Pikachu cry. --I [[User:HideInTheDark|hide in the dark]]! 17:30, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
:It is! Hm. You know, on the [[cry]] page, there's information stating there's only 37 "different" cries that make the 151 sounds (obviously stuff like Mewtwo, Mew, Paras, and Parasect have the same underlying cry), but it'd be awesome if we could get someone to compile a list of all the Pokémon that use those specific cries. Gen II also has 30 more, making there be really 67 sounds for 251 Pokémon.
:Think you could make this list up for us? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:08, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

==Type Advantages over Gym Leaders==

This is kind of a small thing, but it's listed that Bulbasaur has a type advantage over the first two gym leaders in Kanto. But since Lt. Surge uses electric types, that gives Bulbasaur a defensive advantage without an offensive disadvantage (as would be the case with Erika). So shouldn't Bulbasaur be listed as having a type advantage over the first three gym leaders? [[User:Gear-Richie|Gear-Richie]] 20:01, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:Saying it has a type advantage for that means like when you used a Razor Leaf against Onix or Staryu it would say "It's Super Effective!". Grass type moves don't do that against Electric types, so technically it is true like it already is. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 20:04, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

:So saying it has a type advantage is limited ONLY to an attack advantage? That doesn't seem right. That would mean there's a difference in nomenclature between Bulbasaur vs. Onix (Offensive only) and Bulbasaur vs. Starmie (Offensive and Defensive). But no such differentiation has ever been used. [[User:Gear-Richie|Gear-Richie]] 19:16, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

:Type advantage is only limited to Attack Advantage, due to Nintendo and the whole Pokémon community thinking you know the strengths and weaknesses of your Pokémon, so if you send out a Ice less Starmie against a Bulbasaur, you are only hurting your self. But, if you but a Bulbasaur against a Starmie, you are giving your self a advantage, due to the Attacks you gave them. Sorry if it sounds a little confusing >.> --[[User:Mclena45|Mclena45]] 02:18, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

== Back Sprite difference ==

Hey- maybe i'm the first, but when i play Sapphire, Bulbasaur's back sprite is the same as bulbapedia's, however my Fire Red game shows a different back sprite. Here's what I mean: in Hoenn, Bulbasaur is squinting, where in FR&LG, Bulbasaur's eyes are wide open.--[[User:Spritemaster|Spritemaster]] 22:58:25, 22, August, 2009 (UTC)

:I believe Bulbapedia uses the most recent back sprites available. So they'll use Emeralds back sprites for Gen III and Heart Gold and Soul Silver for Gen V when it comes out.--[[User:Mclena45|Mclena45]] 02:19, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

==Yellow==
Just disproved the "Bulbasaur joins in Yellow if you're level 20" thing by actually playing Yellow. {{unsigned|PharosAM}}
:It joins when Pikachu has high happiness. That's actually mentioned in the article. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:42, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I just defeated Misty and i got it. Level 20 thing is a long time question on the topic. It may refer to the fact that you may need Pokémon at least level 20. --[[User:Spritemaster|Spritemaster]] 12:17, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

==Sprites==

If you look closely, the Gen.III backsprite is the same as the Gen.II one, only more updated.[[User:Crazylegs24]]
:We try not to have trivia like that. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:36, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
If you look closely, you will find that ALL Pokémon are like that. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 22:41, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

== Protection ==

May I ask why this page is protected? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 01:44, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

== Obvius but not mentiond ==
I would think it is fairly obvius that Bulbasaur inspired the name for Bulbapedia itself, yet it hasn't been mentiond in any trivia. [[User: EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 8:55, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
:Yes it has. The last trivia item mentions how Bulbagarden takes its name from Bulbasaur. Bulbagarden is Bulbapedia's parent site. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 20:08, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

== Edit request ==

Change the image link in the manga section to point to [[a:File:Saur Bulbasaur.jpg]]. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 21:50, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
:Done. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:03, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 22:07, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking we could add the Black and White locations to not only Bulbasaur's page, but all of the pokemon pages. The problem is, I don't have Black and White, so I'm not even sure if you have to transfer the pokemon over or not. Could you guys help me with that? {{u|Jlin8002}}

== Image snapback ==

Why are all the images of Pokémon 001 - 151 turned back to their original red and green artwork? Someone please fix that and return the images to their most modern artworks.--[[User:Flameblight|Flameblight]] 15:15, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I just noticed that as well. I asked in a few other discussions, but I'm really confused why we're using pictures from [[Red and Green]] rather than [[FireRed and LeafGreen]]. ([[User:Holonboy|Holonboy]] 17:35, 1 September 2010 (UTC))
:Well, today is Red and Blue's birthday. I suppose that is why. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 18:38, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
::That seems like a likely reason. Would've been nice if they mentioned that somewhere though so it doesn't look like the site got hacked.--[[User:Flameblight|Flameblight]] 02:54, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== 'Bulbasaur' instead of 'it'. ==

Wouldn't it simply read better if the third-person pronoun 'it' was replaced by 'Bulbasaur' in a lot of cases on this page? I'm thinking specifically about the top of the article, but I'm sure small changes like that could be made to the rest of it. [[User:TomasOMeachair|TomasOMeachair]] 18:12, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

:I understand what you're saying about the 'it' problem in the first paragraph of the article, but it isn't good to say 'Bulbasaur' over and over again. It's repetitive, and slightly awkward to use the same word over and over again. Also, don't forget to sign your post by type the four tildes. ^^ [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 17:18, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

::Sorry, I didn't know that was a rule. I'll do that from now on.

::I'm not saying we replace *every* instance of 'it' with 'Bulbasaur', but there are cases where it's not totally clear what the 'it' is referring to - you can understand what it's referring to if you apply a bit of common sense, obviously, but the issue's more one of grammar than anything else.

::I will say that I'm in no way an authority on style or English grammar (other than having it as a first language), so I'm completely open to advice/correction/direction. I don't seem to be able to edit the page myself, which is why I haven't gone and replaced 'it' with 'Bulbasaur' where I thought it was needed. [[User:TomasOMeachair|TomasOMeachair]] 18:12, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:::The page seems to be protected, so I would ask one of the admins to do it. Put a message on their talk page and request an edit. That's what I usually do. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 19:44, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
::::As a general rule of thumb, if it is clear what a pronoun is referring to, it should normally be used, with the full noun to used occasionally. Repeating the full name every time is clumsy and can be distracting or difficult to read, while if it becames unclear or the pronoun hasn't been used for several sentences the noun should be used instead, to prevent confusion and remind readers what is being talked about.

::::That said, as I'm reading it, it is clear what ''it'' is referring to, but it is overused in places and gets repetitive, such as in the intro. Other sections overuse Bulbasaur a little, and read clumsily. Overall it's just a matter of style which isn't particularly bad in this article. I've reworded the intro slightly to try and make it less clumsy. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 00:19, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Broken link ==

The links to "Normal Box" and "Gorgeous Box" under Held Items are broken. They should redirect to "Pokémon doll#Normal and Gorgeous Boxes" rather than "Held item#Normal and Gorgeous Boxes." Other Pokémon who can generate these items might need this kind of edit too. (This kind of shows how fragile the current direct-linking system for items currently is, but it's way to late to change anything, of course. ☺ ) [[User:Redletterday|Redletterday]] 21:09, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks to {{u|Sol}}, those links were quickly fixed. (I'd like to add that I didn't have editing access to this article, which is why I posted here.) '''[[User:Redletterday|Redletterday]]''' ([[User Talk: Redletterday|Talk to me!]]) 18:24, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

== Minimum and maximum stats in generations 1 and 2? ==
Hello! Sorry for my bad English, but I am from Germany. I hope, you can understand me.
I just have the generation 1 and 2 games (red, blue, yellow, gold, silver, crystal), and I know, that in these games natures for Pokémon wasn't available (they're coming in generation 3). In the Pokémon pages from 'Bulbapedia' the minimum and maximum stats are calculated WITH this natures. How can I see the min. and max. stats in the first two generations? --[[User:LaBumm|LaBumm]] 12:43, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:You would have to use the stat formula for Generation I and II found [[Stats|here]]. [[User:Pikiwyn|'''''Pikiwyn''''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 12:56, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

== Generation V sprites ==

:Shouldn't we show the animation of the pokemon sprites in the sprite list?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 00:42, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Poké Transfer

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Celibi25: /* Lock Capsule */

==When it says "not know any HM moves"==
Does it mean the nine Gen IV HMs, Cut, Fly, Surf, Strength, Defog, Whirlpool, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Rock Climb? Or does it include Dive, which is an HM in BW? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:17, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

== Lock Capsule ==

How is this item transferrable then if "no held items can be allowed for transfer"? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 07:27, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
:As far as I know, the Lock Capsule is a key item and can't be held anyway. Maybe there's something hidden in BW like the Ranger menus that pop up on DP? [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 09:54, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
::Maybe you have to use the [[Transfer Machine]].--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 15:08, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Never mind...--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 15:11, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Poké Transfer

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Celibi25: /* Lock Capsule */

Talk:Poké Transfer

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Celibi25: /* Incorrect info alert! Possible pokemon franchise hater. */ new section

==When it says "not know any HM moves"==
Does it mean the nine Gen IV HMs, Cut, Fly, Surf, Strength, Defog, Whirlpool, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Rock Climb? Or does it include Dive, which is an HM in BW? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:17, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

== Lock Capsule ==

How is this item transferrable then if "no held items can be allowed for transfer"? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 07:27, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
:As far as I know, the Lock Capsule is a key item and can't be held anyway. Maybe there's something hidden in BW like the Ranger menus that pop up on DP? [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 09:54, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

== Incorrect info alert! Possible pokemon franchise hater. ==

I have stumbled into a website that says that the pokeshifter can only be used to transfer something like twenty pokemon from generation IV games. Honestly what kind of ding-a-ling website would say that unless they wanted to discourage the entire franchise.

Talk:Glitch

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Celibi25: /* Videos on pages. */

I have heard about a glitch pokémon called Flootenkerp, that is a a mix of a mewtwo and a pikachu, and I want to know if it's true. Does anyone knows if it really exists? -- [[User:Luke|Luke]] 12 May, 2006

Anyone heard of that glitch in Emerald that allows for the cloning of Pokemon? Should that be documented here? PikamasterADV 31 July, 2006

There no cloning giltch in Emerald. --[[User:Philip1992|Philip1992]] 14:41, 30 August 2006 (UTC)Philip1992

Yes there is. Someone on Serebii.net found it, someone else tried it out & rewrote it in english.
http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=134181 [[User:Slim|Slim]] 18:55, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Tweaking ==
I'm going to go ahead and throw the Tweaking glitch into another category, it's listed with the Glitch Pokemon for DP as of now. Feel free to move it back if you wish so. [[User:Vekter|Vekter]] 17:10, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

== 1st gen beta item makes HM03 pointless ==

I found a Hex list online with RBY item values, and I found a key item called ?????, and I used GameShark to put it on my Yellow. When used, the player can surf without a Pokémon. It was likely scrapped before the game was finished. I'm not sure if you need Koga's badge or not, since I already had it, anyway. I just thought it should be mentioned. --{{ani|250}}[[User:Fsilone|爆発
]]{{ani|249}}[[Special:Contributions/Fsilone|ばくはつ
]] 18:04, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

== Glitch Trainer Pokemon ==

I saw an article about this somewhere and I can't seem to find it anymore. So in the meantime this post shall go here. My name in the game right now is ??!! male sign twice, female sign. Now the main point is that Bulbapedia doesn't talk about the two glitch pokemon that I've encountered via the Missingno. glitch. With this name executing the Missingno. glitch, the trainers that I end up fighting are: Channeler, CoolTrainer (Male), and Blaine, the gym leader. They have six pokemon and all are the same and as follows: A glitch pokemon I dubbed L8 (true name is what seems to be a right triangle,katakana symbol, 2 glitch boxes, followed by an 8). It seems to be the rock type, because grass moves are effective, and normal attacks are not. Its two attacks are Tackle and Screech. And for some reason, it changes backround music to some weird tune. It has no cry other than the changing of music. After which is followed up with a glitch Nidorino. It knows Razor Wind, Horn Attack, Tackle, and TM48 (the glitch explosion). Then the trainer pulls out a classic Missingno. (2 water guns and sky attack). Then another glitch pokemon which I dubbed Pokemon N (True Name: PKMN symbols 3 glitch boxes, then the letter N). Its cry is the tune for the Song move. It knows Tackle and Leer. After that one, a completely normal Flareon comes up. Then another glitch Nidorino pops up. After you defeat that one the match ends and you earn money. Why do these two pokemon show up, and why does the music change is all I want to know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:MrMcMan|MrMcMan]] ([[User talk:MrMcMan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MrMcMan|contribs]]).
:I've heard of this happening, stuff like wild Oaks and Cooltrainers. If you have screens to prove it, add a section, but write it encyclopedically. Not as a story that happened to you, but neutrally so that anyone who's encountered similar can add to the topic... Y'know? And sign your name next time, dude. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 07:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I would add images and such...if only I knew how to get good quality ones. I have a printer/copier/scanner hooked up to my computer, but I'm not sure how to get it so that only the gameplay image comes up, and not any of the background (such as the gameboy itself, my hands, the room, etc.). If you could e-mail me or somehow send me this information, I would be more than happy to put up images and whatnot.(E-mail: name_unknown000@hotmail.com) --MrMcMan 7:22pm(Central Time) November 15, 2006
:Email sent. Also, <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> signs your name better than having to check the date/time of your posts. Just type it after every Talk Page post you make, and you'll have no problems, like this: [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 06:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I have had this happen on my BLUE VERSION. It has to do with your name. [[User:Animine|Animine]] 22:45, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Here we are: http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Wild_Prof._Oak.JPG
The video i took the screen from: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=lQHTKF7q98M
His website explaining how to do it: http://pokegodmaster.tripod.com/Oakinred/

([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 09:46, 22 December 2008 (UTC))

== u66865rue45 ==
"u66865rue45" does not seem to be a glitch that can be caught with any specific method -- the website proving its existance, http://www.trsrockin.com/linkcable.html, only states its name and nothing else, and states no ''constant'' method of obtaining it -- unlike glitches such as [[Z4]], [[X - x]], and [[LM4]], which can all be found with the [[Mew glitch]]. u66865rue45 probably does exist, and there probably is a way to find it, but until that method can be stated, it should not be mentioned. Also, on the source website, other glitches with long unreadable names are mentioned, meaning that this glitch is probably a random result of a link cable being pulled. (Also, person on the source website who states the glitch "u66865rue45" isn't even sure that's the right name). [[User:Latitude0116|Latitude0116]] 01:48, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

This 'glitch pokemon' has no index number and is most likely a graphical error or one to do with the interface, for example if the game thinks that you are on the map screen when you are battle the HP bar sprite will be translated to a character with the same index number, so when you hit the pokemon you may notice something like that. A similar story though if you are interested, on Pokemon gold when about to talk to elite four koga I accidentally shifted the cartridge, the game must have been confused and displayed the legitimate message in a glitchy font of heads and faces.

--[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 13:24, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

It could have been found using the fire spin glitch (a method for it is somewhere on the GCL forums). [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 08:03, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

== Another glitch town ==

My friend told about this and im not sure if it is true or not...
When you play, stop in the town where you get the skill to use cut outside battles.
Then DO NOT GO TO THE SHIP TO GET THE CUT. Instead, trade a pokemon with cut from a friend's game.
Continue on playing the game until you acquire surf, and are able to use it outside battle.
Go back to the town where the ship is. access the ship pier, but DO NOT GET IN TO THE SHIP.
Instead, when you are on the pier, with the door to ship down from you, surf left from the pier.
Surf on, until you see a town.

That's it. all that I know about it. I would be happy if someone would test this out for me.

--[[User:AtomicTroop|AtomicTroop]] 14:44, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
:[[The truck]] strikes again. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 20:59, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

== IND ==
Should we add stuff about this? (watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyLUNhpiZDw&mode=related&search= ) --[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 20:50, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Here's a pic of it:
[[Image:IND.JPG|300px]]--[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 21:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:Meh. Just looks like another [http://forums.glitchcity.info/index.php/topic,2094.0.html decamark] to me. --[[User:Gawaxay|Gawaxay]] 19:10, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

== Unknown Glitch ==
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IyzWl_MEO0A
That is a glitch, and would it be okay to put on the page? [[User:X3ni92]]
:Judging by your name, are you the owner of that Smeargle? If yes... then... does it do that every time? o3o [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i am the owner of that smeargle, and every time i try to look at its summary it does that, if use it in battle (against a pokemon trainer) if i choose attack then press b then go to items and use any type of poke ball it will catch there pokemon and go to the pokedex, but once it asks for a nickname it freezes with the same pink screen wih a safari ball in the middle. [[User:X3ni92]]
:Weird. Probably a side effect of an Action Replay... [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:49, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i don't have an action replay o.o [[User:X3ni92]]
:Oh. Weird. Because you said uh, that you could catch trainer's Pokémon. Then jeez, something is seriously screwed up with that Smeargle.  [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:53, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i don't know whats wrong with it :/
i have a weird Unknown too, it has other moves then Hidden Power it got these moves (smeargle got the virus/glitch) after i traded them from Pokemon XD [[User:X3ni92]]
:Maybe something happened on the XD data on the Memory Card, so it screws up Pokémon data and such. Maybe you should try trading over another Pokémon from XD, and if that Pokémon is awkward too, then I think something's up with your GC→GBA link cable or your XD data. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 03:02, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i did that with Houndour and Totodile and they work fine and evolved fine too. [[User:X3ni92]]

so would this be considered a glitch or not? [[User:X3ni92|X3ni92]] 02:55, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:Probably just your game, methinks. Not really notable enough, or considered a seperate glitch that could work on a bunch of different carts. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:58, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
okay. 
Thanks anyways! [[User:X3ni92|X3ni92]] 03:18, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

== Now thats a thought. ==

What happens (in Gen 2, 3, 4) when you breed a Glitch? I mean, think about it, what happens when you breed two of the same Glitches, or two different Glitches, or a Glitch and a Pokémon? |: Has anyone ever tried this before? [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 14:56, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:My friend tried it a few times(He's an adept hacker). His results:
1- Game froze.
2- Bad Egg; never hatched.
3- Bad Egg; game crashed; saved data deleted.
4(new cart)- Game froze.
5- Game froze.
Theoretically, it's possible, but I wouldn't try it. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:49, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Why? ==

Why are there 2 tweaking here? tc26 23:07, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

== is this beta glitch a "glitch zigzagoon" or a "no item glitch", both, or does it not exist ==

i got a beta r/s/e mailed to me by mistake. it wont save so its useless. any way i got a zizagoon. it was`nt holding anything and if i gave it will say "its alredy holding an item". if i took the "item" from it the screen displays "its not holding anything". make up your mind! what do you think? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Whatswithalltheextraspace|Whatswithalltheextraspace]] ([[User talk:Whatswithalltheextraspace|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Whatswithalltheextraspace|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:Ithink that's why it's called a "beta game." Just a bug they hadn't worked out yet. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 23:02, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==Town Map Glitch==
Erm,I used a cheating device to walk through walls and go to the mystery zone,then I used a town map.When it returned to the map,it became all glitchy(Trees were white,rocks became different,etc.)Should that be mentioned on the article? [[User:ShinyEmpoleon|ShinyEmpoleon]] 05:47, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
: No, that's just a side effect of the Walk through Walls code. It's happenned to me. I bet the game was fine other than that, wasn't it? Same happenned to my friend when he used the code to go over a building seperating the routes. The city's colors were off. He went inside a building and everything was fine. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 23:00, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==FRLG Glitch==
One time (i forget the date, but it was sometime last week or this week) I loaded my Fire Red while i was in the Pokémon Center, and The entire thing was all glitched up. There were invisible walls everywhere, and the Center was enlongated. However, besides that, everything still worked as normal. I know it was the first time I had played it in a while, and when I left the center, everything was normal. Now that I think about it, it could have been Ruby or Sapphire. Anyone else ever experience this? Me and my fellow torchics agree on this - Sk8torchic 19:28, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
: Probably a bug that they didn't get rid of. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:56, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Fence glitch ==

Very similar to the hill glitch and occurs in Ruby, Sapphire, and I think Emerald. In route 121- west of Lilycove- there is a man by a small collection of fences. Two steps directly below him is an item, but the fence is between him and the item. He's looking around, sometimes looking down. If you collect the item then stand where the item was, the man will see you and approach you- STANDING ON THE FENCE. This has happenned to me and I sufferred no ill effects. This only works the fisrt time you battle him, of course. Can this be added? [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:34, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Stupid question here, but... ==

How does the game know to call glitched eggs "bad eggs?" And don't give me crap that it's a fan term, because I watched my cousin get a bad egg and it was actually called that. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:53, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe the translators idea of a joke--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 22:55, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== GSC Mail and Battle House glitches ==

I realize that I'm posting a lot here, but I was playing my friend's Crystal version and tried to put mail in the box. It said the mailbox was full, so I went to the PC, and all of the "mail" in there was a bunch of radom question marks, something like this: ??? ? ????? ??? and so on. I tried taking the mail out and it seemed I succeeded, but it didn't show up in the bag and there was still no space. So I tried removing it all. Again, it seemed I was succeeding until I got about halfway through, then the game froze. Another time I went to the Battle House in Viridian City and my only opponent was a triner with a level 0 Typhlosion, and whenever I selected an action, no matter if it was "Run" or "Fight" or whatever, the game would freeze. Comments? [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 23:10, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:Sounds like your game cartridge is dying[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

== Glitches not working? ==

On Pokemon Red and Yellow, I tried the glitch stating that if you evolve your starter pokemon before you get your Pokedex, that the game won't let you progress, and it didn't work. I got my pokedex, and it had Charmander and Charmeleon in it, and I was able to move along just fine. Something needs to be done...there is either more to this glitch which should be included, or it should be removed for being false.

Also, on Yellow, I visited the Celadon City hotel which resembles a pokemon center as mentioned, and there was no invisible PC anywhere, so again, this needs to be changed or removed for being false.
[[User:Mortem|Mortem]] 23:20, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

:Please place new comments on the bottom of the page, thank you. As for the Invisible PC, that was removed it Yellow, as far as I know. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 23:22, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
::Sorry about that, I just thought the top seemed to be the logical place to place new stuff...but that's besides the point. I hadn't gotten that far on red/blue to test it out on there. What of the starter glitch? Do you need to evolve the pokemon twice or what? If that "preventing progress" does exist, it needs to be reworded, because it is not true as it is currently written. [[User:Mortem|Mortem]] 22:53, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
:::It says only "Gen I" so if it doesn't occur to you, I'd guess that that glitch is only in Japanese Red and Green versions. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 12:09, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Then should someone add that to the description? Or maybe I'll do it?

==weird==
My sister's friend has a glitched-up hall of fame on her firered. I know MissingNo/'M can cause this, but I'm pretty sure she's never seen a glitch pokemon when she's played. Two questions about this: One, does MissingNo/'M show up in an frlg pokedex? And is there any other explanation for this?[[User:Arceus is the Best|Arceus is the Best]] 17:17, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
:No, they do not show up in FR/LG, and the only other explanation I can think of is hacking. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 17:18, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
::Hacking doesnt equal glitches, im sorry to say[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:::No, not always, but improper hacking is almost certain to get SOME glitchiness if the data is messed up, [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 22:35, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
:::But not official glitches[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::::What do you mean by "official glitches"? I can make a FireRed ROM to put you fight a {{gp|?}} if I like, or make you face a [['M]] on a Blue ROM (which could cause the Hall of Fame glitch to occur), and that's hacking just like sprite and map editing. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 22:57, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::This is not a ROM, it's an actual cartridge, and she's never cheated. [[User:Arceus is the Best|Arceus is the Best]] 19:53, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

==Sticky hold glitch==
I'm surprised this one is missing. It only occurs very rarely, but it's really fun to look at when it does occur. As far as I know it doesn't exist in DPPt, and was introduced in RSE. It has two forms, a wild battle form, and a vs. battle form

For the wild battle form, just KO wild Grimers with covet. It happens rarely but sometimes wild Grimers hold nugget items. Also half the time they have sticky hold, half the time they have stench. If your pokemon KOs the Grimer with covet and had the opportunity to steal a nugget, but was denied the steal because of Sticky Hold, the sprite for the grimer does not disappear from the screen when the grimer faints.

For the Vs. battle form you need: two RSE games/GBAs, a weak pokemon with the "sticky hold" ability(a low lever Grimer is probably best), in the other game
Step 1: Set up a team where the first pokemon has the "Sticky hold" ability, and an item. (preferably a very low level one as it needs to get KOed by covet for the glitch to work, I used a L13 Grimer)
Step 2: double check to make sure you have a secret base setup somewhere the second game can access it.
Step 3: record swap so that the second game can battle against the team including Grimer.
Step 4: KO the Grimer with covet.

When it faints another pokemon will appear on the screen, but the game will still draw the Grimer sprite on top of it using the pallette from the pokemon that is actually battling. the Grimer sprite will remain in place until you switch to something other than the battle screen. - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Marhawkman}} ([[User talk:Marhawkman|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Marhawkman|contribs]]) ''
:Proof or no cookie. Upload to Youtube or something. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 21:17, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::-_-' I guess I could upload some digital camera pics to flickr.--[[User:Marhawkman|Marhawkman]] 01:46, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:::http://www.flickr.com/photos/11951562@N08/ You may now [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degeneration_X#Suck_it.21 Suck it!] :p no it is not possible for me to do a video upload.--[[User:Marhawkman|Marhawkman]] 01:05, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Nice. If you can get that written more encyclopedically and if anyone can figure out why this happens, I have no problem with inclusion. [http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/super_mario_cookie.jpg All yours :D] — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:20, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

== Graphical glitch? ==

Well, I was playing Pokémon Platinum, and when I was in the 2nd floor of the Ribbon Syndicate and I saw a graphical glitch. I was standing diagnol to the Poké statue on the right, and if I walked down once, the wall on the right Merged into the floor. This was on a DSi. Worth mentioning? I'm going to add it anyway for now, I'll try not to start a war.... --[[User:Cat2killer|CAT2 A.K.A Cat2killer]] 00:23, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
:It sometimes happens with the 3D engine. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:40, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
::Thats what I was thinking... I added it, but I can delete it, O powereful 'chidna --'''[[User:Cat2killer|Catu]] [[User talk:Cat2killer|the Cat]]''' 22:14, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

==Fishing==
I just encountered a weird graphical glitch in DP. You can fish on the tiles with swimmers on them. It doesn't matter if they move around or not. But, since it's so pointless, I don't know if it should be added.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 23:30, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Is there anywhere that says about that glitch in RBY where if you use cut and turn the game off the tree comes back on top of you? If so, this glitch should be in the same place. [[User:Mattiuscn|Mattiuscn]] 17:09, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

: Gou: I don't think that's a glitch at all - the game is coded to allow fishing if there's a water tile directly infront of the player. I don't think it's supposed to matter if there's something else on the tile as well. Ignoring real-world principles of personal space invasion, it's perfectly possible that the player is fishing very close to the swimmer. Mattiuscn: It's under [[Glitch#Pokémon_Red_and_Blue|Minor Glitches]] for Pokémon Red and Blue - look for the bullet point Cut Glitch. --[[User:Raylax|Raylax]] 20:09, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

==Dratini Glitch==

I just tried the Dratini Glitch on my Gold. The message wasn't permanate. I pressed the A button and it went away. I don't know why.[[User:Pokemon champ|Pokemon champ]] 05:53, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

: Never mind I misread it. I thought it meant that it would be stuck at that screen but I read it more closely.[[User:Pokemon champ|Pokemon champ]] 08:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

==Fly + Brave Bird Glitch==

I found this out by accident but a Pokémon uses {{m|Fly}}, and then your partner uses {{m|Brave Bird}}, at the end of Brave Bird, even though your partner is in the air, the Pokémon usinf Fly can be seen for a short while. It's an error not a glitch as much but is it enough to take not of?--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 01:18, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Glitches, errors, and bugs are basically the same thing. Yes I would say it is notable :) --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 13:08, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

== Pal Park Glitch 'Mon? ==

What happens if a Glitch Pokémon from the 3rd generation is transferred via Pal Park to 4th gen? Is it transformed into a legitimate species, or does it remain a glitch? Or does the 4th gen title detect it and refuse transfer? --[[User:Raylax|Raylax]] 13:20, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

It theoretically would turn into a 4th generation Pokemon if you decided to transfer a Pokemon with an index number over 386 but below 494 however on all cases the game gives a short message and refuses you from transferring it. I tried transferring a Unown with a safari ball, it wouldn't let me but as soon as I took it off the Unown I could transfer it. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 13:12, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

== Lv100 cheat ==

Any proof for this? Seems to me like a random fake cheat. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 08:18, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
:Me too, but there are various videos on Youtube. I'm not an expert, though. Apparently it can be done in more places than just Viridian Forest. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:50, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

No, this is true! Basically you perform the method 3 of the mew trick. The mew/other pokemon usually appears at level 7 but if you use growl six times on the enemy pokemon it will make the pokemon you encounter level 1 (because the byte depends on how many boosts/drops the attack stat has gained, it begins at 7 and goes up to 13 or down to 1)

After obtaining a level 1 mew or a third stage evolution Pokemon there is a bug in the algorithm where the game presumes there is a negative number of experience to level 2 (displayed as a very large number). Therefore upon levelling that pokemon it will skip to level 100. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 13:16, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

I just tested, and it DOES work in the US version of Yellow. However, it does NOT work in Red/Blue because none of the trainers in Viridian Forest (or anywhere before Cerulean for that matter) challenge you just as they appear on the edge of the screen. I also changed the "Growl level-1 times" to "Growl 6 times." For me, using Growl level-1 times always resulted in level 4 or 5 Pokémon, which don't jump to 100. Meeting Pidgeys and Rattatas (and always Growling 6 times) gave me level 1 Voltorbs and Nidokings, respectively.

Since it's a relatively complex glitch, and hard to follow along reading the long paragraph of instructions, it might do better as a numbered step-by-step list. --[[User:Chupi|Chupi]] 09:18, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
:The Rocket in Mt. Moon (Red/Blue) who says "we're pulling a big job here" works. However, you'll either need to beat a trainer afterward (as in the Mew glitch), or use the Brock skip glitch so you can still use the guy who walks you to Pewter Gym. --[[User:Chupi|Chupi]] 22:58, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, growl 6 times. You also have to get a very low amount of exp to get from level 1 to level 100 though. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 23:59, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

== Raikiou Glitch ==

Back when i played crystal, i had this Raikiou. It was fine for about a year but then everytime i sent it into a battle the screen would fill with question marks and it would be really difficult to be able to do anything, but if i attacked the screen would return to normal and my raikiou would be invincible for three battles (damage was instantly healed) and all its attacks were one hit k.o.s then after three battles the game would freeze. i have since restarted my crystal to replay it because of HG and SS so i cant get any pictures, but this really did happen. i'm not sure why but the raikiou was named either ?, ??? or a full name bar of ?s. did anyone else ever experience this? {{unsigned|The hugarh}}

== F8 Glitch ==
While messing with the memory address of pokemon blue, I have came across another error message, ERROR 7, I don't know if this is important or not, I just wanted to make mention here. --[[User:Chibiace|Chibiace]] 23:01, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
:You can add that to the table (or I could do it for you) if you know what the error was caused by. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:59, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
::I'll see if my exploits in corrupting Pokémon red and blue come up with any more error codes, though I am not sure if there is anymore (I think I remember another error, but it may be error 48, but I am sure it came up during a glitch city exploration, hopefully I still can get it to come up.) [[User:Chibiace|Chibiace]] 00:22, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
:::If the error numbers go up to 48 then I'm assuming there are at least that many. Let me know if you find any more :) [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:21, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

==Black Belt Gibberish==
''Black Belt Gibberish: For unknown reasons, a certain Black Belt in Sinnoh's Victory Road may speak glitchy gibberish upon defeat. The users who discovered this both chose Chimchar as their starter and nicknamed it. ''
:I totally got this today, but my starter was an unnicknamed Turtwig. Significance? [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:59, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

It's a shame there aren't any pictures yet. Are you able to reproduce the glitch? [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 02:49, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:I'll try and see if I can use the Vs. Seeker to re-fight this guy. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:16, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

I had this glitch on my game with a female nicknamed empoleon, Maybe the gender has something to do with it? --[[User:MayaTheEmpoleon|MayaTheEmpoleon]] 15:44, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
:No, I discovered it, and my starter is male. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 04:53, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Next time if you get it again please get a picture of it if you can for reference (not that I don't believe you). Are you able to reproduce it? [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 05:01, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
:Yes I can. I turned off the power after I beat him, so I'll fight him again. I don't know how to take screenshots, though. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 20:15, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Use a camera? lol [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 04:04, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

==Emerald and reliable cloning==
It's possible that the sentence describing Gen II as having the most reliable cloning glitch is very old, maybe even pre-dating the discovery of the Emerald glitch. Nonetheless, I'd have to rank Emerald's as being the most reliable cloning glitch in the history of the games, in that it doesn't require any sense of timing whatsoever, making it nigh-impossible to mess up. Thoughts? [[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]] 15:04, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I thought the same on that. --[[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 02:48, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

== Teru-sama ==

I have a Monster Brain which shows the GS Ball in Crystal (English version). I have tried that and the Teru-sama in the corresponding slot of Gold (English version) and neither work. Wikipedia has stated that the GS Ball will ''never'' work in the English version of Crystal because the routines required for the event were left out of all non-Japanese language versions. Unfortunately, they have watered-down their Pokémon entries so much they only state that it cannot be caught, but not why. I have just confirmed this one last time. What do the hackers hack? ROMs? If it only works in ROMs, say so. ROMs should not count anyway. [[User:White Phoenix|White Phoenix]] 07:11, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

The Pokémon Communication Center stuff was removed, and that's where the GS Ball was available from in Japan. However most of the rest of it remains. I've used a GameShark code to obtain the GS Ball, then another one to get Kurt to take it. The next day, he gives it back to you, and you can take it to the shrine in Ilex Forest and catch a Celebi.

The Communication Center was removed because it required the GBC to be connected to a smart phone, which weren't so common with kids in the US in 2001. The one-time event that gave you the GS Ball in Japan also activated Kurt accepting the ball, hence the requirement of 2 GameShark codes. The only routines that were removed were in the Comm Center. --[[User:Chupi|Chupi]] 05:15, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

== Box Trick and Other Missing Glitches ==

Shouldn’t the box trick from the first two generations be included? It doesn’t seem that the programmers intended the stats to be manipulated, only recreated to avoid storing the stats for each pokémon in the boxes.

I have a list of glitches, tips and tricks that I have collected. Here is a list of the confirmed glitches not listed in this article and the sources if I had them. (When I first started collecting I didn’t write down the source.) Some of these were extremely long, so I edited them. Details available upon request.

Mew
Source: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (en.wikipedia.org) [I cannot find the paragraph now. It was either moved or deleted.]
It is also possible to get a mew in the Pokémon game, without intending to capture one. In several instances, in the trade center of a PokéCenter, trades have glitched and a mew was spawned from the chaos, as well as a pidgeot. In five instances, a machoke was traded for a graveler, and five times, a mew and a pidgeot were spawned. The graveler and machoke were deleted however.
[Note that the glitch is that two pokémon were downloaded instead of one.]

Alternate Pokémon Colors [The precursors of shiny pokémon? –Editor] (Stadium)
If you nickname your pokémon in the Game Boy game and bring it into Stadium, it will have changed color depending on what you nicknamed it! Possibilities range from an orange pikachu to a sea green tentacruel.

These are not shiny pokémon, because shiny pokémon were not invented when Stadium was released. [However, it may have given Nintendo ideas to do it deliberately. –Editor]

Mew Warning (Stadium) (unconfirmed, but worth noting in case it is true)
Do not trade a mew level 10 or higher in the trading mode in Stadium. It will glitch the game, and if you want your data back, you must call Nintendo (1-800-225-3700) to fix it.

Cloning Items
While cloning pokémon from Generation 2 and later, the items the pokémon are holding are cloned as well. If the user is interested in cloning items only, they would use useless/common pokémon like pidgeys, rattatas or weedles.

Easy Gifts and Battles
Obtain several phone numbers, then go to your house and tell your mom to switch on or off daylight savings. Your phone friends will give you calls almost immediately, and you will get to fight them or receive gifts.

Unlimited Mystery Gifts
This occurs since the programmers did not foresee a problem. The user capitalizes on the resetting of the clock to trick the game into allowing mystery gift trades more frequently than once a day per friend.

[[User:White Phoenix|White Phoenix]] 08:43, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

==56 ERROR==
I found a sixth error, I can reproduce this by using the Ditto Trick on my Pokémon Blue cartridge to fight a trainer (eg Blaine), and defeating their Pokémon. Instead of the text for winning it quickly displays 56 ERROR and then gives you your winnings. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 02:57, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I should have explained more fully.
The Ditto trick is a variation of the Mew Glitch which is performed simliarly.
First, fly away from the trainer, as in the Mew glitch.
Second, battle any trainer, making sure they have to walk to you.
However the next part is different.
You must now get a pokemon with a certain special stat. Each possible special stat up to 255 (after which it rolls over, 256 = 0, 257 = 1 etc.) corresponds to a different pokémon or possibly even a trainer (very high numbers) depending on it's hexadecimal value. Have that pokemon in your first party slot.
Now find a wild Ditto. Use an item such as X accuracy or X speed so that ditto will transform into your Pokémon.
After Ditto has transformed, defeat it normally.
DO NOT GET INTO ANY BATTLES AFTER.
Then, go to the spot where you would normally be getting Mew to appear.
The start menu pops up as normal and when you exit, battle will resume.
This glitch can be used to find glitch pokemon and trainers. Trainers may not have their usual pokémon, for example Bruno could have Blaine's team.
I hope this helped.
[[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 22:28, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

== Fire Spin Glitch ==

I found information about a Generation I Fire spin glitch that occurs in link battles. It is complicated but you can find information about it on the gltich city labs forums. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 03:00, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

== Small, Random Glitch Pokemon ==

While messing around with the 'make any pokemon appear' code on a gameboy color game, I discovered that by putting in random, two-digit letters and numbers (ex. hex code is: 01xx1ED1. xx=LETTERNUMBER, such as E4 or 4E), several similar glitch pokemon appear. The glitch pokemon have the name of one pokemon, but the sprite of another. They sometimes make the letters glitchy and when you press 'a' to read more text or when any pokemon in the battle attacks, several random sounds begin playing.

Just a small discovery I made. Is it worth mentioning anywhere? Or is the method to actually see these glitch pokemon too random and unpredictabe? --[[User:Ame|雨]] 23:06, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Which game? Anyway sounds interesting and I'm sure it oculd be incorporated into the article if we knew what generation section to put it in. Was Gameboy color meaning gold, silver, crystal, red blue or yellow? [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 03:28, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
:If it was Gold/Silver/Crystal then possibly, but if it was Red/Blue/Yellow then no. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|Snorlax]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|Monster]] 05:17, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

The game was red/blue. I'll try and find some pictures.--[[User:Ame|雨]] 12:19, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
:I thought current policy was not to include glitch Pokémon that are only available through modifying the game data. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 13:14, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

If that's so, Andy, I'm sorry, I didn't know. But that would make sense, I wondered about that too. --[[User:Ame|雨]] 21:21, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry Andy, I thought that was for creating articles.. silly me. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 22:43, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

::::: Are you serious!? If so then WHY do we have DPhybrids on our glitch pokemon list?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 15:28, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::: Don't reply to old comments please. As far as I know the 'consensus' was to include Generation II, III and IV cheat only glitch Pokémon but not include (all) Generation I glitch Pokémon not including those unobtainable via the Ditto Trick (those are the ones flagged as trainers by the minus 0xC8 (index number 200 or up) process and can only be 'obtained' per se by avoiding this process as of which a method [without cheating] is not confirmed) and cannot be obtained by evolution/trade. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 16:29, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

== R/B Errors ==

This section is so wrong I don't know where to begin. The screenshot of the "59 error" clearly shows "5 ERROR" (i.e. code 5), just with some random crap before it. The table even says the two are the same, just with 59 having crap before it.

This doesn't make a lick of sense:
:Mixed errors usually generated when the game mixes three or more errors, and instead of using standard error codes, the game looks in the other character folders and may use letters or other symbols for the error code. This may crash or freeze the game.
Folders? There are no folders. Perhaps they meant to say the game displays gibberish in place of an error message, or doesn't correctly load the text graphics first? I've never seen such a case. [[User:HyperHacker|HyperHacker]] 03:33, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

== Firered/Leafgreen Suicune (Minor) Glitch ==

Evidently all Suicune from said games have extremely low (though legal) iv stats. I noticed that they were all at zero or single digit values after catching it a number of times. And yes, I did make sure that I was catching it without a previous encounter (in which presumably the IV's would have been fixed). A google search indicates that this is a known glitch. Is this significant enough for inclusion?--[[User:Gsnipe|Gsnipe]] 04:07, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

The IV's for the three dogs are set when you start the game (Eg. if you wanted another IV set you would have to start a new game). This also goes for nature, shininess etc. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 05:16, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:I've played through FR twice and gotten improbably low IVs both times on Suicune. I'd still attribute this to bad luck if not for this thread at GameSpot: http://www.gamespot.com/ds/rpg/pokemondiamond/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-42723270&pid=925601
::Looks like there's a post about this on Smogon too. http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45644--[[User:Gsnipe|Gsnipe]] 15:24, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:::It's not just Suicune. See my [[Talk:Glitch#Glitched_IV.27s_for_Roaming_Legendaries.3F|answer below]] for more info. ~ [[User:HackMew|HackMew]] 15:14, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

== Egg Hatching Glitch ==
I just encountered a somewhat odd glitch. I traded over a Shinx egg from my Pearl to my Platinum to hatch it. I had already hatched it on my Pearl (without saving) so I knew how many steps it would take to hatch it, roughly. It was a lot. Yet, I went downstairs and outside and within two to three more steps (19 total steps), it hatched. I reset and put the Egg in the PC and withdrew it, it had the correct steps to hatch. If anyone asks, yes I can repeat the glitch. No, I do not use an AR or any cheating devices.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 19:29, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
:More on it. Apparently, withdrawing it from the same PC doesn't work for some reason. To get the right steps, I had to withdraw it from another PC or leave the map and come back. Go figure.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 19:32, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
::Did you have any Pokémon with {{a|Magma Armor}} or {{a|Flame Body}} in either of your parties? If not, it may not even be a glitch, but an Easter egg (no pun intended), so that traded eggs hatch faster. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 01:23, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:::...I use that all the time. But, no. I had just restarted my Platinum, so all that was in my party was my Turtwig. And I also didn't have one at the time in my Pearl game. Also, it wasn't half the steps. It hatched after 19 steps compared to the normal roughly 100 steps. And I've traded enough eggs to know that it doesn't affect hatch steps.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 04:33, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

It's normal. The egg rilies on a counter that is lowered every time a certain number of steps is done. When the counter reaches 0, egg hatches. Different Pokémon have different starting numbers (That's why Magikarp hatches fast whereas say Chimchar doesn't).

When you do a soft reset I would say that the number of steps required to lower the counter is reset to max. That's why the first time it took only 19 steps.

I hope this helps. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 06:44, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:If that was the problem, then it would have been reset to max after trading. It also would've hatched after 19 steps ''on my Pearl version'', which it didn't.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 17:53, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

==Platinum, Poké Ball, Blue?==
On my Platinum version, a normal Poké Ball works really well on Pokémon that are mostly colored blue. I caught Dialga at lv. 70 witha regular Poké Ball. I caught Azelf and Regice with one as well. Granyed, I have the earliest release of Platinum in the US, but why does this happen? ~ [[User:L.S.B.|L.S.B.]]

:Just a coincidence for you. Poké Balls do not work better on blue Pokémon. [[User:Tyro|Tyro]] 18:45, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

== Glitched IV's for Roaming Legendaries? ==

So, after Playing through FireRed a couple times and noticing that Suicune's IV's were abnormally low (as in, 0's in 4 stats and single digit for the rest), I tried grabbing a Raikou. It had abysmal IV's as well. Then I noticed a Latias I caught from Sapphire had IV's that were just like the Beasts, with 4-5 zeros. Google has turned up a few discussion board posts claiming that all Roaming Legendaries in the third generation games have the same problem, with the exception of Emerald. But beyond that I haven't found anything solid. Can anyone clear this up? {{unsigned|Gsnipe}}

I'm pretty sure because of the way those game works some IV sets are not possible for legendary Pokémon, when combined with other things such as a nature you want, you most likely will get lower IV's. This is not exactly a glitch, it is just the game's psuedo-random number generators are terrible in Gen III. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 03:10, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
:Nope... it's possible to get good natures/IVs on Gen III, just like any other game. However, FRLG has a particular error in the coding that prevents the roaming beasts from having any IVs over like... uuuuuh 11 or so? Something like that. I think it should be added, personally... ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 03:26, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
:: Well, the glitch affects all roaming legendaries in all 3rd gen. games except Emerald where it got fixed. This means Latios in Ruby, Latias in Sapphire and Raikou/Entei/Suicune in FR/LG. The glitched IVs are the result of a buggy code: only 8 out of 30 bits will be saved in the wild data upon meeting the Pokémon. This means only the HP IV will be stored correctly along with the first 3 bits of the Attack stat. The rest will be set to 0. While the IVs are stored the wrong way, the IVs are still stored correctly into a special, reserved RAM area. This means with a bit of effort and patience, one could theorically recover the proper IVs and manually fix his/her roaming Pokémon. If anyone needs more technical data, feel free to ask. ~ [[User:HackMew|HackMew]] 15:09, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

==Poké Ball spin glitch==
I came across [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avm0J5Hy8vQ&feature=related this] by accident. Someone already mentioned it, and I hid it until proven. Does this prove it? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:40, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

==List of glitches==
I dislike it. It also means that it has to be updated every time anything is added to [[list of minor glitches]]. I suggest that either we make '''list of minor glitches''' into '''list of glitches''' and just link to that from here, or remove the minor glitches section and direct reads to list of minor glitches. Thoughts? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:46, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

==My post==
I just noticed my Post on a glitch was deleted when I actually had proof that it exists. Why was this? [[User:Lunyka|Lunyka]] 05:10, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

And someone moved it down here, Well I hope it isn't spam being down here but I posted about the 731 glitch and some proof that it might actually exist and it just disappeared. {{unsigned|Lunyka}}
:I moved it down here because that's how talk pages work here. New comments/subjects go to the bottom. And it disappeared because someone deleted it, because they probably considered it to be fake and spam.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 05:59, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
::I read what you linked to, it seems pretty fake, and even if it's not, then it's not a glitch, so it's irrelevant here. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:11, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

== greenman ==

I used an action replay code and now the Green Man wont leave the Pokemart when i talk to him he says oops and wont go away. {{unsigned|Charizard106042}}

1. Cheating isn't notable 
2. Go and ask someone on the forums --> [http://bgmf.bulbagarden.net]

Thanks, [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 03:37, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

== Infinate Money Glitch ==

Um I think I found a glitch on Heartgold that gives you infinite money I dunno if a glitch like that was already know of. I couldn't find one reading through bulbapedia but I don't really know a lot about computers etc (evidently)so I was just wondering if everyone already knew about it [[User:Sugerfreek|Sugerfreek]] 09:56, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
:How do you trigger the glitch? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:04, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

:ok this is the detail i remember I was breeding Eevee so I put like a level 21 Espeon and a level 27 Ditto (may be slightly different) in the care centre below goldenrod. I then went to goldenrod cycled about the man called me I went and collected the egg. Then I went back to cycle in goldenrod (my team was a level 89 Pidgeot and level 1 Togepi if that is relevant) the guy was taking a while to call and sometimes if you go back to the day care man before he rings he has the egg anyway. So I cycled back and once I was next to him he rang me saying he had my egg. I answered the call and following the call I accidently called my mum. I was pressing b to shut her up when she told me I had 8888888 saved and if I wanted to start saving again (but I have never saved money) I said no. Collected the next egg and flew home where my mum did have the money I withdrew some and then went to the shop and it let me buy thing with no bad side effects. The game didn't crash and the eggs hatched normally. I dunno what causes glitches so I dunno what information is relevant or not. hope that helps. [[User:Sugerfreek|Sugerfreek]] 15:51, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
::The information you have given me (other than that it was 8888888) doesn't seem helpful. Have you ever used any kind of cheating device, or tried a glitch such as [[tweaking]]? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:57, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

:hahaha no I'm crap with technology the game is quite old though it has almost 200 hours racked up on it. Do you think it was just because the cart was really old? I'm just playing it on my normal ds lite [[User:Sugerfreek|Sugerfreek]] 15:59, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
::200 hours isn't that old... (but I think it's more than my SS). Anyway, it ''could'' be caused by a dirty cartridge/game, but that is unlikely. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 16:02, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

:anyway I don't know anything about hacking glitches why they occur etc...... so I thought I would tell someone that might know something about it so that if it was of relevance people could maybe look into it I dunno what steps of the glitch were relevant or not. So hopefully someone will look into it or whatever [[User:Sugerfreek|Sugerfreek]] 16:07, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

::Have you put magnets near your game? The fact that it was "888888" seems to have all the relevant bytes written the same.... [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 21:47, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

:Not as far as I'm aware I travel a lot and sometimes I will just keep the game in my handbag which is near my phone I dunno if that does anything. Just thought my Pidgeot was holding an amulet coin (I dunno if that is relevant) [[User:Sugerfreek|Sugerfreek]] 16:56, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

::Perhaps there is a chance that recieving messages could have done it... I'm not really sure on this one though [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 21:31, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

== Mystery zone/Real map merge!? ==

:I was fooling around on Pokemon Pearl version with my AR Walk through walls code when I decided to try going all arounnd the screen. Okey, this was an accident but I FORGOT where I was. But when I cheked the Poketch APP map I it said I was on the very edge of the screen. That's how I got the idea to try to define the edge of the map. You really can't tell if you are moving or not so I just kept going. I thought that if I went over the edge then A: game freeze. or B: I would wind up on the opposite side of the map. Well I was HALF right on B. I was back where I left the real map but everything was dark. I found out that I was back where I started was NOT the APP. It still said I was on the edge of the screen before I had looped around. I found it by stepping in a patch of grass. It still had the wild Raticate that where there when I left. Even after the battle it was still dark. Now that I am writting this I can't belive that I didn't even try Flash. In my defense, I was worried about what would happen to my game it I accidentily saved there. Does anyone know what this is?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 15:46, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

== Videos on pages. ==

You know we really should add videos to some of the glitch pages. It is REALLY hard to understand some of them. I am working on method #3 of the mew glitch on blue but I need about a week. Please contact my talk page or reply on this page.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 05:24, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
:We have videos on a few pages, but you are correct in that we need more. Try searching Youtube if you need help, there should be a few videos there. If you find a good one, please add it to the article (if you don't know how, just leave the link here and someone else can add it). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:53, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

::Right now I am almost ready, All I have to do is get my pokemon to a special stat of 191. ( It is currently at 114.).--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:13, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

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This is the {{bp|talk page}} for the Bulbapedia's front page. If you have a general comment about the wiki, please consider placing it in [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 our forum].'''

== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10|Archive 10]]

== Pokémon cries? ==
Should we add Pokémon cries to the Pokémon articles?--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's been tried before, but it caused too many problems. It would still probably cause too much problems now.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 20:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10#Pokémon Cries|This has been discussed to death already.]] —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 20:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::We're going to try to get them put in as soon as possible. They've been sitting in a directory on the server for... jeez, at least a year. Last time we tried to put them in, the server exploded. Archaic's been wary of doing it since then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Just out of curiosity, what file format was used for the cries? That may have been the problem.--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::Over at de:, we have mp3 with the following syntax: <nowiki>{{#mp3:http://www.greenchu.de/nakigoe/025.mp3}}</nowiki>. I cannot figure out where that parser functions comes from, though.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] [[User talk:Afrael|talk]] 00:59, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I think having the files like [http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/#music Floatzel.net] have their music files could work well. We might even eventually be able to put route/town/cave music on the pages!--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 04:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Oh would I ''love'' to do that. Too bad Nintendo would '''destroy''' us for doing so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:01, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

== Move Trivia ==

Should there be a trivia section for moves? For instance, only one Pokémon can learn [[Steel Wing]] by leveling up.--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 16:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:There are for some moves, but not all of them have any notable trivia to add, so there is no sub heading. If you think of '''notable''' trivia, then add the sub-heading and put it in. Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 21:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

== Glitch Pokémon ==

Hi there. I remember when I was around nine, I used to play Pokémon Gold & Crystal, and I remember there was this cloning trick that could clone pokémon and the items that they held. Anyways, I began to notice if I did the right trick at a certain time, (or whatever it was, it has been a while) I managed to get a special type of Pokémon, the trainer. The trainer of course, had no moves and therefore could only struggle, but you could use TMs and everything. I remember having fun with that, but I can't find any info on this.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Bublador}} ([[User talk:Bublador|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bublador|contribs]]) ''

Try this page, all of the glitches are on [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Glitches#All_Generations]] and please sign your comment when you use these talk pages. thank you --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 19:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==

I'm just thinking if on every Pokémon's page that we have their Pronunciation somewhere? like this:

Say: Sin-da-qwil

What do you think?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's a good idea, but I believe we've had problems with adding pronunciations in the past because of people not agreeing on the "correct" pronunciation (also, sometimes there are conflicting pronunciations from different official sources) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 07:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Oh oh then. I just though because some Pokémon I can't pronounce their names--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::If you have a look at the source of, say, Bulbasaur's page, you'll see this:
<pre>{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Bulbasaur |
pron=<sc>''bul''-buh-sore</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''.
Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> |
jname=フシギダネ |
tmname=Fushigidane |
</pre>

the "pron=" parameter is not coded into the infobox, so it does appear. But it's there on every Pokemon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 07:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, it's coded in but because of the disagreements on pronunciation and no clear official source for many of them, it was decided to hide them all. If Nintendo or anyone ever releases an official pronunciation guide then we'll be able to put them back up. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Is whatever the pronunciation is in the English dub of the anime (and similarly the pronunciation in the Japanese dub for those not yet released over here) not enough to justify it? With the exception of the odd time where they've actually changed the pronunciation during it e.g. Regice... '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== Artwork?! ==

I hate to be the silly one who starts the "What's going on?!!" discussion, but seriously, why have all the pictures of the Generation I Pokémon been changed to the old Red and Green artwork? Is it for an aniversary or something? [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. Anniversary of RB was yesterday, so Gen I Pokémon got Gen I art. But due to the server cache it took some a while to switch over, and I believe they should all be starting to switch back now, but again, that'll be whenever the server cache gets updated. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 11:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, maybe it could be put on a switch, like with Gastrodon's forms, so it could switch between old and new artwork periodically. How's that sound? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:49, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::That's exactly what it did. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, so it's still in effect? As in, like, permanently? Because that was what I was suggesting. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yes, next year and on certain other days the site will have easter egg effects. Yaaaay for surprises. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::I won't panic when the Gym Leader pictures are replaced by fan art then... [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 11:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Is it the same currently with the Generation II Pokémon and their G/S artwork? [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:16, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Yes. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

== just a though... ==

i realise this is probably in the wrong place, but, as unlocking the generation IV nationaldex and requesting a trade on the GTS require only seeing a particular species of pokémon, would it make sense to include a section explaining where to see them. (and i am aware that the GTS has only around a week left). I know that people (granted they are few) have had problems viewing unown and riolu in DP for example.--[[User:Mr-connor|Mr-connor]] 13:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

:There is a section explaining where to see, and catch, Pokémon. It's right below the Pokédex Entries section.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 13:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

'''TYPHLOSION LV:50
KINDRA LV:50
ALAKAZAM LV:50
LUGIA LV:45
TYRANITAR LV:55
DRAGONITE LV:57'''

this is my current team for pokemon soulsilver...i think it has room for improvement.
[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)brandon strayhorn[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:This isn't the place to put this. Post it on the forums.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbagarden Archives ==

I have a problem that I keep sending the confirmation e-mail like every week but it doesn't show up. I'm saying it here because I haven't confirmed my e-mail on Archives. Someone please help me!!!!!!--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 10:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
:Have you checked it isn't getting caught by the spam filter on your email? Maybe check that the email address is right too? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 10:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks Wardnae, I accidentally wrote the wrong email.--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 23:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
== Sizes on Pokémon pages.. ==

Something that's been bugging me for a while. I've been manually going around and resizing the main art boxes at the top of each Pokémon page so they all match each other and look uniform. However, many times box sizes will still be off by a few pixels. Would there be anyway to code something that keeps them all the same size? [http://i54.tinypic.com/28rcc53.png] is an example of what Ii'm talking about. Basically, the box that surrounds the art.~★ '''[[User:Cubic Question|''cubic'']][[User talk:Cubic Question|''QUESTION'']]''' 13:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
:Even if you make the width a certain size, the length will be different according to the size of the art. To get it uniform, you would have to make every file have some whitespace so it would be the same size. That won't happen though. The boxes don't really need to be uniform in size. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 20:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

== Litsen... ==

First of all, I have a idea of a section in the pokemon's main page. Footprint. It'll be good. also, the Pronunciation topic above^^. We can take Right pronunciation from [http://pokemon.wikia.com/ Pokemon Wiki]. I know its cheating, but, Ill help us. --[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:The footprint is already in each Pokémon's infobox. And, we already discussed that the pronunciation caused conflict, and the Pokémon Wiki is far from a reliable source. So we probably won't be adding the pronunciation to each's Pokémon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 11:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::By the way I think you were trying to say Listen not Litsen?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, Pronunciation is what admins can do when the wiki lets locked. also, wouldn't they need help adding 150 and more pokemon?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Pronunciation is conflicting. It isn't just hard work. For example, Bonsly was pronounced with an ē once, then with an ī in another time. One was in the movie, the other in the anime, I've just forgotten which. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 11:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh Really? We All Know That Charmander is pronounced ''Chaar-man-der''. Easy Enough?? Just search on google for pokemon pronunciation.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, no Google searching, thanks. The official sources (Official Handbooks, Anime, and Video Games) don't always agree on pronunciations of Pokémon names. Now, if the official sources all agree at one point, then we will add them. But until then, they're not going on the species pages. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 12:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay Then. Moving to the next topic. What About Something at the Top of The Pokemon pics To Change the Picture into other generation art or to a Different form?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:Most form changing Pokémon have their forms rotated based on the current time (see {{p|Arceus}}, then refresh the page). As for different generations, the infoboxes are set to display it on certain days—for example, on the anniversary of Red and Blue the Pokémon pages displayed their Red and Blue artwork (for those that have it). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Doesn't look like the servers are being nice ==

No, I'm not geting 504s (or, if I am, FireFox is hiding them); I'm getting something even worse: pages not loading at all. A couple of days ago, I was going to come here to get a small amount of information, and it took ages to do so (so long in fact that I just got it O_O). I think the servers are being overstressed - despite the fact that I was getting good ping times off of 10 pings to the site's router (if there is one), I couldn't load any pages - not even robots.txt! That is just a simple text document, and it wouldn't even load! I would start the lockdown soon, as the closer to release we get, the more activity we are likely to get.

I consider myself lucky I could even get on right now. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 06:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:The fifth generation Pokemon are invading Bulbapedia and interfering with the system! I haven't actually noticed any problems yet though, which is strange. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:38, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Finally! ==

as i mentioned Form changing above, We can use A method for pokemon with 2 different forms like giratina and shellos

Method: All you guys saw Avatar, Everyone Saw. Now See The [http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com Avatar Wiki]'s Jake Sully Article. There is a button below the pic to change the Picture into Human/Avatar. We can use that Method.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 16:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:That's a really good idea actually, I think it would be better than the Pokemon's form just changing periodically. Perhaps now Bulbapedia is being upgraded for the fifth generation, it would be a convenient time for recoding the articles. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::I dunno. Shaymin is also two formes, and changes with time. Shellos and Giratina, by the way, are not random. It's based on the hours. And unfortunately, that just changes the infobox picture; there are '''''several''''' things that change for forme changers. Unless your Ground-type moves miss against Altered Forme Giratina. What's that? They don't? But you can only use Earthquake five times? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Wikimon has a more extensive one that allows you to toggle the whole box, for example in the [http://wikimon.net/Agumon Agumon article], click the tabs. It even integrates the table of contents into it. Pretty clever. - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 04:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::::see, only arceus has several things that needed to be changed. what about others?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 07:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::What about Mebukijika and Genesect (yes, Genesect has other formes (I think five or six?)) [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

:I also support the toggle idea. By the way, it has been mentioned in Arbok's Pokédex entries that it has at least six different patterns, of which two have appeared in official game art. Maybe it would be worthwhile to also toggle these two the same way? --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::I say we just stick with actual forme changes, and not include design differences between canons. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 14:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== Metric tags in Pokédex entries ==
All pokedex entries use the imperial units of measurement from the US translation. I suggest adding tags with the metric counterparts for two reasons:

1 - the original Japanese entries use metric units, so it could be seen as "more canon".

2 - there are international users of Bulbapedia (me included) that are not used to imperial units.

For example, the final sentence in Magneton's entry in Yellow could be: ''It raises the temperature by {{tt|3.6F degrees|2°C}} within {{tt|3,300 feet|1 km}}.''

If the staff agrees, I'm willing to go through all Pokedex entries and add the metric values. I know enough Japanese to easily get the official values from the pokedex entries listed on the Japanese wiki, assuming those are correct.

--[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:Metric system seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to include, it's merely a big job to go through ''everything'' and add the metric equivalent. Perhaps starting small, with say the Pokémon infobox only for now, and work our way up (every infobox should list the Pokémon's height and weight, so it's the most prominent use of the imperial system). Pokédex entries are also pretty simple, but I'd also say they're the less important area to work on (no complaints if you want to fix them all yourself, however). --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 11:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

::Each Pokemon already have both their imperial and metric height and weight listed in their infobox, except for Generation 5, because their imperial values are not yet officially known. So pokedex entries are the most important area left to work on, as far as I can see. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 13:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:::Unless someone else has a big complaint about it, I don't see why you can't go ahead and update those, in that case. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 14:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

::::I have done 101 out of 493 for now. I may have missed a few in scanning all those entries. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 23:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== Question? ==

The option to write in the discussion for the Pokemon Black and White Versions isn't there. Are we not aloud to write there? --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 21:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, but only if you're autoconfirmed, meaning you've been registered for a certain amount of time and have made a certain number of edits.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::OK thanks --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 22:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::What is the amount of time and important edits? [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== 3D Artwork ==

This is something that's been on my mind for a while now, but I couldn't bring it up due to the lockdown. Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to possibly include 3D images of Pokémon and Pokémon moves, like what's done for anime? It could be done in a seperate section or sub-section of the articles. Oh, and I don't mean updating every time a new 3D game comes out; I mean adding images for each time a move or Pokémon has appeared in a 3D game, like images of Pidgeot from its appearances in Pokémon Stadium through Pokémon Battle Revolution. I don't know if this has been brought up before, but is this notion a good idea?--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 00:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:Although i don't know much, but taking 3D Pics will be hard and i don't think its a very good idea.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, I don't quite know how it's done, but you don't take 3D pics by using a camera or something. The quality of the 3D images here prove that.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 15:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== Lylat Wiki ==

[http://starfoxwiki.org/Lylat_Wiki Lylat Wiki] is now a part of NIWA, Oct 8th and 15th two others will be added, so might wanna add that to your NIWA bar ;] [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 17:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Main page design ==

Does no one else think Tsutarja is missing?
We have Bulbasaur, Treecko, Chikorita and Turtwig pics on the main page, but no Tsutarja (or victini if you want the first pokémon in the dex) I can feel it's absence when I look at the page. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 19:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:main page uses animated minisprites. we dont have Gen V animated minisprites. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I can ''Make'' Them Animate. but it wont we official, and Archives are currently blocked.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 20:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I see. That's a little worrying because they're not animated on my screen. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 17:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::What browser are you running? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::on chrome and IE they don't work, only firefox. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 12:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::I've heard that they also work on Opera. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Actually,there is a Tsutarja animated sprite Bulbagarden Archives, but there's no space for it. However, a Victini sprite has also been uploaded. [[User:Jlin8002|Jlin8002]] 00:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Jlin8002

== Shiny Gen V Sprites ==

I would like to know where we are going to put the shiny sprites for the fifth generation Pokémon. I have the sprites (official). [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:We have them, however we have yet to upload them. I guess I could do them today. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 11:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== Translations ==

This is a big job, and would probably be a bad idea, but could we translate Bulbapedia into other languages? I know that we already have basic translations of Pokémon and Moves, but what about the rest of it?----[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalk]][[User talk:Chalkwriter|writer]] 18:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:May I direct your attention [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis|here]] ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 18:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== Clearer distinction between "natural" and Dream World abilities. ==

I think the distinction between pokémon that only have certain abilities through the Pokémon Dream World and those that don't can be made clearer. For example, on pages of separate abilities there is just one table with normal and PDW pokémon all mixed up, while it would be easier to make separate tables for both. I think this would help both users that own Pokémon Black or White and those that don't. Besides that we could also make a category for "Abilities exclusive to Pokémon Dream World", like {{a|Harvest}}. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 00:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
:On the separate pages, they are specfically listed in a separate column that says "Dream World ability". That seems separate enough. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, but I think it would be easier if for example you are looking for a pokémon that has a certain ability, that you don't have to go through a list of which half of the pokémon are Dream World pokémon. Even for Dream World users like me pokémon in wild and in Dream World are two completely separate things. But yeah, it's not that necessary. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

== Grammar error ==

Being the Grammar Nazi I am, I have spotted an error I can't fix. I accidentally got logged out while editing a userpage, and I noticed there is a lack of space between sentences on the message that explains that new users cannot edit userpages. This is really bothering me, so could anyone with the power to edit the MediaWiki namespace fix it? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
:Done, I think. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

== Update on Message to the Editor ==

[[Template:Main Page/Message from the Editor|'''This''']] should be updated, no? I think people would like to know it's been unlocked [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 02:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
: Very true, its more that a month old [[User:Ruberduck0123|'''Ruber''']][[User talk:Ruberduck0123|'''duck''']][[Special:Contributions/Ruberduck0123|'''0123''']] 07:00, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
::It doesn't matter if it's five months old, he edits it when they have an announcement to make, he doesn't have to update it once a month people!! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 13:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbanews ==

I have a question : Can only staff members report news to bulbanews or can normal users also report --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 15:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Bulbanews is a different wiki altogether. Though they're both part of Bulbagarden, both Bulbapedia and Bulbanews have their own front pages. The information you're looking for is on Bulbanews's front page and if you have any other questions about it, it'd make sense to ask on that talk page rather than this one. [[n:Front page|here's a link, for convenience]] [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 20:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:What Kanjo said is correct, but to answer your question, anyone is allowed to report news to Bulbanews. After submission, an admin or columnist needs to move it out of the draft namespace and into the mainspace. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== Zoroark's Name ==

I think the Ark in its name could be cause it can transform into lots of pokemon like an ark of pokemon and the reason i posted it here cause i cant post it on Zoroark's article . --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 16:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:First of all, if you can't post in an article, inquire in the article's talk page (i.e. [[Talk:Zoroark (Pokémon)]]), not Talk: Main Page. Secondly, that's a real stretch: that's not an actual definition of the word ark, it's just a vague metaphor. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 21:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Before you ask ==

Read the news. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

:Is it for the Japanese anime writer? If so, I suppose Chimecho is more appropriate than Lugia, considering how the little windchime links to places like Mt. Pyre and Sendoff Spring. It can be in greyscale if desired. Besides, what is more favourable aesthetically is that one may include Chingling too, instead of Lugia all over the place. [[User:Rxhar|Rxhar]] 09:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

::It's Lugia because the man is credited with helping to create it. It was on the news post. [[User:Tamah|Tamah]] 23:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

:::Well, it was more than a week by now, someone could remember me who edits the main page? --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 16:14, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

== What'd I do wrong here? ==

[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Starck]]

... What happened? [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
:Just create a page with <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki>.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 13:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

==EV Listings==

I was just thinking of a very useful idea. On the pages for each route, cave, etc, where the wild Pokémon are listen, I was thinking we should add another column after each Pokémon and say "1 Speed," or "2 Attack," or something. That, paired with encounter and level rates would help a great deal in EV training for all different levels. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
:Well, I admit, this would be useful to some people, but this is an encyclopedia, not a walkthrough. Honestly, I don't see why you can't go to the Pokémon's page and check. I'm not for it, but I'm not exactly saying NO. --[[User:Si6x12|'''Si6''']][[User Talk:Si6x12|'''x12''']] 03:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::I agree completely, however, it would be a nice little touch on the page for convenience. I'm not one of them, but I know some people have incredibly slow computers, and I can easily imagine the frustration of those who have slow connections along with a desire to EV train. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 14:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm thinking no, but I do see a use in it. Perhaps {{bp|Project Walkthroughs}} would be a good place to ask. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Putting every possible bit of information is dumb. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:04, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::But that's not what we'd be doing now, is it? We wouldn't be putting their number, or Dex color, or Egg group, or anything like that, just the EV(s) they give. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::The number should already be there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:50, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::::No, I'm talking about on the route pages. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::::Don't make me go on a rant about users and clicking links. If you plan to EV train, then just look up the Pokémon that give EVs in whatever. We're an encyclopedia, not an EV training guide. Do some of your own research, dude. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:15, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::This isn't at all a matter of laziness. Heck, I'd be willing to go around and do a ton of the work, assuming I could figure out how to code it (which I can't) It's just a nice touch of convenience for users, you know? I mean, I'm fine if we don't do it, it's just a suggestion, after all. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 04:39, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

== Redirection Pages ==

Do we really need those redirection pages with one Pokémon used by a character, the TCG link, and the Pokémon link? We already have the Pokémon used by a character and it's TCG links on the page. I understand the ones for like Pikachu, but ones like Mr. Mime and Gengar don't need to be there, do they? [[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 03:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
:This is already being discussed on the forums, so please be patient. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 03:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
::And how soon do we delete {{template|p}}, which I'm sure you all want. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== What to do with Dream World artwork. ==

Currently we use some to replace the Sugimori artwork, but what to do when said artwork is avaiable?. Sincerely i thing it would be a waste to just leave the DW artwork floating alone. Do you agree? We should do something with it.
--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:06, 15 November 2010 (UTC) Sorry, forgot signature
:It would be a waste. Also, how come we don't put up the old artwork on the Pokémon's page? It seems a waste not to include it on the page (especially when some trivia refers to it). [[User:Tesh|Teshigigas]] [[User_talk:Tesh|[Talk]]] 18:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::Old artwork '''''is''''' on the pages, they just change from time to time [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:36, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
:::not really, Ataro. we are going to find a use for the images, but as of late weve had other things to focus on. rest assured, it will be showcased somewhere and in some way. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:01, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::::/me keeps reading the "In the Games" sections of pages (hint). [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 00:47, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::Over at [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Main_Page Zelda wiki]they use a code of sorts that makes a picture change every time you refresh the page. It seemed to use a template called <nowiki>{{RandomLinkImage}}</nowiki> for [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Link this page]. I think I've seen simeler on userpages. It varied page to page. --[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 20:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe each Pokemon's page can feature a gallery of their art from all games. Just a random thought. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 21:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
::Eventually. There's always an issue with doing that though. And that is how many damned exceptions there are. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:13, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Um, doesn't each Pokémon page link to a gallery anyway? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:00, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Em, we could show the artwork in the pages for "special" cases, like ivysaur. Ivysaur has purple colored eyes in the anime and Dream World--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 22:44, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Trading pre-Unova ==

Some pokemon such as [[Bulbasaur]] say that you have to "trade" to get the Pokémon when you actually have to get it through Pokéshift, Dream World, or both? When are we going to change this? —[[User:Zekasaur|♫Ze]][[User talk:Zekasaur|kas]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|aur♫]] 03:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
:It will likely be changed as soon as someone enters that specific information into the tables. If I recall correctly, the template defaults to saying "trade" if no data is entered. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 04:58, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

== Preview ==
You know how it seems that everyone forgets to use the preview when they first come on? Well on NWiki, they have something that makes you show preview, and I was wondering if we could use that here. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 01:30, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:I actually find that incredibly annoying on NWiki. If you are going around making minor edits, such as relinking, it just gets in the way. I'm pretty sure there is an option here to turn it on in preferences if you like it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== File:Ani586WMS.png not displaying ==

Could someone work on this? The file [[a:File:Ani586WMS.png]] isn't showing up on the main page. I checked the Archives and found that the filename is correct, but somehow or another it isn't working. Thanks. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' ''(my [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/Chiefboz|contributions]])'' 15:44, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
:There is nothing that can be done about this. It is just the archives not synchronizing with Bulbapedia. All we can do is wait for it to fix itself. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:28, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hopefully before Christmas...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 03:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:::It was actually displaying when MAGNEDETH added it. It fitted in nicely too... --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::::It seems to be working now. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 17:25, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon SIENNA??? Why do we have NOTHING on this? See video ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQqH2HV7p10&feature=watch_response

I had no idea there was such a thing as a Sienna version of this!! Please, add the article: {{red link|Pokemon Sienna}}. Thanks! --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:27, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe on [[hack games]]. But it probably isn't notable enough. Take it up on the talk page there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

== "Pokemon Apokelypse" ==

Anyone seen this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDX1m0Y2Vkg&feature=watch_response_rev

Looks like we don't have an article on it either. Why doesn't anyone create something about this? --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:[[User:ShinyPikachu/Pokémon Apokélypse]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

== Did you know section: "...the typing of the first Unova Gym Leader is depend''a''nt..." ==

Shouldn't that read "depend'''e'''nt"? The spelling that currently appears on the Main Page isn't really accepted in American or British English. [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 19:07, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:Fixed. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

== A search bar? ==

Has Bulbapedia ever considered having a bar that would be used similar to the Google toolbar? It could have a place to search for an article on Bulbapedia, maybe even have a link to the home page, recent changes, bulbawiki forum, the archives, etc. This would mean easy access to not just the wiki, but so that people with the toolbar could get to a specific pafe faster as well! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:16, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:You mean a Bulbapedia Toolbar for a browser? That's something to think about, I guess. Maybe a Firefox addon or something. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
::Yes. That's what I meant. I'm not sure if it is even possible but if it was it would be very useful for viewing and editing Bulbapedia. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 03:34, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I would recommend bringing this up on the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 BulbaWiki forum]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:47, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

== Countdown ==

Are we going to have a countdown for the NA release of Black and White? →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:54, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
:Why not. I think it's traditional to keep the Christmas garb up until January 5th, so we can change the colorscheme then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:46, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

== Klink swap. ==

How in the world did everyone switch giaru with klink so FAST? If anyone thinks this is a funny comment I am a new user--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 01:46, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Klink (Pokémon)

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Celibi25: /* Trivia */

{{forums notice|March 31, 2011}}
==Trivia==
I noticed that Gear/Giaru is the the only Pokemon consisting of two seperate entities. A couple of other Pokemon have had two heads/minds before, but were always connected by some physical bond. Can we add this fact in, or do we have to see the rest of Gen. 5? {{unsigned|Element03}}
:What about Exeggcute? They aren't connecting in a physical bond. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:27, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
::And Magneton. And possibly Dugtrio (we don't know what's under there). And even Porygon-Z to an extent. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:21, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, I mean just two. Magneton and Dugtrio are three entities, Porygon-Z is one entity with multiple seperate parts, and Exeggcute is six or seven seperate eggs. Gear/Giaru is the only two-bodied Pokemon, and by consequence the multi-bodied Pokemon with the least bodies.--[[User:Element03|Element03]] 00:18, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Don't resign if you forgot, it messes up the timestamp. This piece of trivia gets too specific if you go into the fact that it's the only Pokémon comprised of two entities, when there are things with 3. I say we just leave it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:23, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::It's called Klink now you two.
P.S. How in the world did everyone change that so fast?!--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 01:43, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

== Physiology ==

Can a mod add this:

Giaru resembles two gears, with six cogs each, interlocking. The cogs of the gears are a light grey, while the central regions are much darker. Their left eyes are a simple "X", while their right eyes are very wide with a black pupil and a white cornea. They have round green noses and small mouths that are held wide open. {{unsigned|Constantine}}
:Sure thing. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 17:24, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::Umm, by the look of the art and sprites, their noses are blue...[[User:Megadog|Megadog]] 00:51, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

==Trivia2==
I'd like to add this to the trivia:

Giaru's ability either being Plus or Minus could suggest that it exerts a sort of magnetism, or that sending out two(or possibly three Giaru) is an advantage considering the fact that gears turning in oppposite directions combine.[[User:Pelipper|Pelipper]] 23:37, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
:I think it would be best to wait until more information is known about this Pokémon. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:43, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

== Name Origin ==

I was thinking what could possibly be its name origin. If it was just a corrupted ギア ''gia'', gear, or if it had something else behind it. Maybe, it could be something like a portmanteau of 誼 ''yoshimi'' or ''gi'', friendly relations, and ある ''aru'', to be with ギア ''gia'', gear.[[User:KurowaSan|KurowaSan]] 06:21, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
:When it is two gears, and its name is a direct transliteration of gear, I think it's pretty safe to assume that the only origin is the word gear. Also, it makes me wonder why this page isn't at {{red link|Gear (Pokémon)}}, like {{p|Wargle}}. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:42, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
:ウォーグル　''Uōguru'' is an obvious portmanteau of the english words (written in japanese) ウォー　''uō'', war, and イーグル ''īguru'', eagle, becoming Wargle.
Now, for ギアル　''Giaru'', this doesn't really happen. It may be just a corruption of ギア ''Gia'', gear, but "giaru" isn't "gear" in Japanese.[[User:KurowaSan|KurowaSan]] 07:00, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
:Form and forme （フォーム and フォルム） use slightly different ways of transliteration, to distinguish them. It's a very slight corruption, and I'm betting that the official romanisation is "Gear". It's not like this type of tiny corruption hasn't happened before. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:19, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
:Besides, the u is a silent u. It's there because that's how the Japanese write it. {{Unsigned|Mikkim}}

== Disambiguation ==

Okay since we're apparently redirecting 'Gear (Pokémon)' to this article, should the same also be done for 'Gear' alone? Except typing in 'Gear' into the search bar brings up the Gear item in [[List of key items in Pokémon Colosseum]]. Meaning a disambiguation page may also have to be made... That is, if we are going along the lines that Giaru is supposed to be 'Gear'... [[User:Rai Marshall|Rai Marshall]] 07:35, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
:Most people are calling it Gear, and since we have a redirect, we should probably do create the page. Although, since Bulbapedia's referring to it as Giaru, we could word the page as something like, "You may have looking for [[Giaru (Pokémon)]], which is also known as Gear." --[[User:Element03|Element03]] 00:40, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
::I've actually already disambigged it. Many other sites are simply translating it as Gear anyway, so people are likely to search for it using that, so we need to disambig it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:14, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

== No one else get reminded of Magnemite? ==

Just saying, they remind me of each other. They're both based off of machinery it seems. Anyone else agree? [[User:Miscs|Miscs]] 18:23, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
:That is an opinion, thus not going to be included in the article. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:02, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

==Name==
Should we add in trivia that Klink is the name of the main antoganist in the old TV show, Hogan's Heroes? ----[[User:Desukaan563|Desukaan563's userpage has a Value Formula to measure Pokémon worth]] ''([[User talk:Desukaan563|talk]])'' 03:53, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
:No. I don't see how it has anything to do with Klink other than its name. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:03, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

User:Celibi25

2010-12-30T01:42:56Z

Celibi25: Created page with "Good day to anyone who happens across this page! I am user Celibi25."

Good day to anyone who happens across this page! I am user Celibi25.

Talk:Glitch Pokémon

2010-12-17T15:50:47Z

Celibi25: /* Gen: V glitch pokemon. */ new section

Talk:Glitch

2010-12-17T15:46:38Z

Celibi25: /* Mystery zone/Real map merge!? */ new section

I have heard about a glitch pokémon called Flootenkerp, that is a a mix of a mewtwo and a pikachu, and I want to know if it's true. Does anyone knows if it really exists? -- [[User:Luke|Luke]] 12 May, 2006

Anyone heard of that glitch in Emerald that allows for the cloning of Pokemon? Should that be documented here? PikamasterADV 31 July, 2006

There no cloning giltch in Emerald. --[[User:Philip1992|Philip1992]] 14:41, 30 August 2006 (UTC)Philip1992

Yes there is. Someone on Serebii.net found it, someone else tried it out & rewrote it in english.
http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=134181 [[User:Slim|Slim]] 18:55, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Tweaking ==
I'm going to go ahead and throw the Tweaking glitch into another category, it's listed with the Glitch Pokemon for DP as of now. Feel free to move it back if you wish so. [[User:Vekter|Vekter]] 17:10, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

== 1st gen beta item makes HM03 pointless ==

I found a Hex list online with RBY item values, and I found a key item called ?????, and I used GameShark to put it on my Yellow. When used, the player can surf without a Pokémon. It was likely scrapped before the game was finished. I'm not sure if you need Koga's badge or not, since I already had it, anyway. I just thought it should be mentioned. --{{ani|250}}[[User:Fsilone|爆発
]]{{ani|249}}[[Special:Contributions/Fsilone|ばくはつ
]] 18:04, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

== Glitch Trainer Pokemon ==

I saw an article about this somewhere and I can't seem to find it anymore. So in the meantime this post shall go here. My name in the game right now is ??!! male sign twice, female sign. Now the main point is that Bulbapedia doesn't talk about the two glitch pokemon that I've encountered via the Missingno. glitch. With this name executing the Missingno. glitch, the trainers that I end up fighting are: Channeler, CoolTrainer (Male), and Blaine, the gym leader. They have six pokemon and all are the same and as follows: A glitch pokemon I dubbed L8 (true name is what seems to be a right triangle,katakana symbol, 2 glitch boxes, followed by an 8). It seems to be the rock type, because grass moves are effective, and normal attacks are not. Its two attacks are Tackle and Screech. And for some reason, it changes backround music to some weird tune. It has no cry other than the changing of music. After which is followed up with a glitch Nidorino. It knows Razor Wind, Horn Attack, Tackle, and TM48 (the glitch explosion). Then the trainer pulls out a classic Missingno. (2 water guns and sky attack). Then another glitch pokemon which I dubbed Pokemon N (True Name: PKMN symbols 3 glitch boxes, then the letter N). Its cry is the tune for the Song move. It knows Tackle and Leer. After that one, a completely normal Flareon comes up. Then another glitch Nidorino pops up. After you defeat that one the match ends and you earn money. Why do these two pokemon show up, and why does the music change is all I want to know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:MrMcMan|MrMcMan]] ([[User talk:MrMcMan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MrMcMan|contribs]]).
:I've heard of this happening, stuff like wild Oaks and Cooltrainers. If you have screens to prove it, add a section, but write it encyclopedically. Not as a story that happened to you, but neutrally so that anyone who's encountered similar can add to the topic... Y'know? And sign your name next time, dude. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 07:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I would add images and such...if only I knew how to get good quality ones. I have a printer/copier/scanner hooked up to my computer, but I'm not sure how to get it so that only the gameplay image comes up, and not any of the background (such as the gameboy itself, my hands, the room, etc.). If you could e-mail me or somehow send me this information, I would be more than happy to put up images and whatnot.(E-mail: name_unknown000@hotmail.com) --MrMcMan 7:22pm(Central Time) November 15, 2006
:Email sent. Also, <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> signs your name better than having to check the date/time of your posts. Just type it after every Talk Page post you make, and you'll have no problems, like this: [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 06:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I have had this happen on my BLUE VERSION. It has to do with your name. [[User:Animine|Animine]] 22:45, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Here we are: http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Wild_Prof._Oak.JPG
The video i took the screen from: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=lQHTKF7q98M
His website explaining how to do it: http://pokegodmaster.tripod.com/Oakinred/

([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 09:46, 22 December 2008 (UTC))

== u66865rue45 ==
"u66865rue45" does not seem to be a glitch that can be caught with any specific method -- the website proving its existance, http://www.trsrockin.com/linkcable.html, only states its name and nothing else, and states no ''constant'' method of obtaining it -- unlike glitches such as [[Z4]], [[X - x]], and [[LM4]], which can all be found with the [[Mew glitch]]. u66865rue45 probably does exist, and there probably is a way to find it, but until that method can be stated, it should not be mentioned. Also, on the source website, other glitches with long unreadable names are mentioned, meaning that this glitch is probably a random result of a link cable being pulled. (Also, person on the source website who states the glitch "u66865rue45" isn't even sure that's the right name). [[User:Latitude0116|Latitude0116]] 01:48, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

This 'glitch pokemon' has no index number and is most likely a graphical error or one to do with the interface, for example if the game thinks that you are on the map screen when you are battle the HP bar sprite will be translated to a character with the same index number, so when you hit the pokemon you may notice something like that. A similar story though if you are interested, on Pokemon gold when about to talk to elite four koga I accidentally shifted the cartridge, the game must have been confused and displayed the legitimate message in a glitchy font of heads and faces.

--[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 13:24, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

It could have been found using the fire spin glitch (a method for it is somewhere on the GCL forums). [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 08:03, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

== Another glitch town ==

My friend told about this and im not sure if it is true or not...
When you play, stop in the town where you get the skill to use cut outside battles.
Then DO NOT GO TO THE SHIP TO GET THE CUT. Instead, trade a pokemon with cut from a friend's game.
Continue on playing the game until you acquire surf, and are able to use it outside battle.
Go back to the town where the ship is. access the ship pier, but DO NOT GET IN TO THE SHIP.
Instead, when you are on the pier, with the door to ship down from you, surf left from the pier.
Surf on, until you see a town.

That's it. all that I know about it. I would be happy if someone would test this out for me.

--[[User:AtomicTroop|AtomicTroop]] 14:44, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
:[[The truck]] strikes again. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 20:59, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

== IND ==
Should we add stuff about this? (watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyLUNhpiZDw&mode=related&search= ) --[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 20:50, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Here's a pic of it:
[[Image:IND.JPG|300px]]--[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 21:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:Meh. Just looks like another [http://forums.glitchcity.info/index.php/topic,2094.0.html decamark] to me. --[[User:Gawaxay|Gawaxay]] 19:10, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

== Unknown Glitch ==
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IyzWl_MEO0A
That is a glitch, and would it be okay to put on the page? [[User:X3ni92]]
:Judging by your name, are you the owner of that Smeargle? If yes... then... does it do that every time? o3o [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i am the owner of that smeargle, and every time i try to look at its summary it does that, if use it in battle (against a pokemon trainer) if i choose attack then press b then go to items and use any type of poke ball it will catch there pokemon and go to the pokedex, but once it asks for a nickname it freezes with the same pink screen wih a safari ball in the middle. [[User:X3ni92]]
:Weird. Probably a side effect of an Action Replay... [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:49, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i don't have an action replay o.o [[User:X3ni92]]
:Oh. Weird. Because you said uh, that you could catch trainer's Pokémon. Then jeez, something is seriously screwed up with that Smeargle.  [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:53, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i don't know whats wrong with it :/
i have a weird Unknown too, it has other moves then Hidden Power it got these moves (smeargle got the virus/glitch) after i traded them from Pokemon XD [[User:X3ni92]]
:Maybe something happened on the XD data on the Memory Card, so it screws up Pokémon data and such. Maybe you should try trading over another Pokémon from XD, and if that Pokémon is awkward too, then I think something's up with your GC→GBA link cable or your XD data. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 03:02, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i did that with Houndour and Totodile and they work fine and evolved fine too. [[User:X3ni92]]

so would this be considered a glitch or not? [[User:X3ni92|X3ni92]] 02:55, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:Probably just your game, methinks. Not really notable enough, or considered a seperate glitch that could work on a bunch of different carts. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:58, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
okay. 
Thanks anyways! [[User:X3ni92|X3ni92]] 03:18, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

== Now thats a thought. ==

What happens (in Gen 2, 3, 4) when you breed a Glitch? I mean, think about it, what happens when you breed two of the same Glitches, or two different Glitches, or a Glitch and a Pokémon? |: Has anyone ever tried this before? [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 14:56, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:My friend tried it a few times(He's an adept hacker). His results:
1- Game froze.
2- Bad Egg; never hatched.
3- Bad Egg; game crashed; saved data deleted.
4(new cart)- Game froze.
5- Game froze.
Theoretically, it's possible, but I wouldn't try it. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:49, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Why? ==

Why are there 2 tweaking here? tc26 23:07, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

== is this beta glitch a "glitch zigzagoon" or a "no item glitch", both, or does it not exist ==

i got a beta r/s/e mailed to me by mistake. it wont save so its useless. any way i got a zizagoon. it was`nt holding anything and if i gave it will say "its alredy holding an item". if i took the "item" from it the screen displays "its not holding anything". make up your mind! what do you think? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Whatswithalltheextraspace|Whatswithalltheextraspace]] ([[User talk:Whatswithalltheextraspace|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Whatswithalltheextraspace|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:Ithink that's why it's called a "beta game." Just a bug they hadn't worked out yet. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 23:02, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==Town Map Glitch==
Erm,I used a cheating device to walk through walls and go to the mystery zone,then I used a town map.When it returned to the map,it became all glitchy(Trees were white,rocks became different,etc.)Should that be mentioned on the article? [[User:ShinyEmpoleon|ShinyEmpoleon]] 05:47, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
: No, that's just a side effect of the Walk through Walls code. It's happenned to me. I bet the game was fine other than that, wasn't it? Same happenned to my friend when he used the code to go over a building seperating the routes. The city's colors were off. He went inside a building and everything was fine. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 23:00, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==FRLG Glitch==
One time (i forget the date, but it was sometime last week or this week) I loaded my Fire Red while i was in the Pokémon Center, and The entire thing was all glitched up. There were invisible walls everywhere, and the Center was enlongated. However, besides that, everything still worked as normal. I know it was the first time I had played it in a while, and when I left the center, everything was normal. Now that I think about it, it could have been Ruby or Sapphire. Anyone else ever experience this? Me and my fellow torchics agree on this - Sk8torchic 19:28, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
: Probably a bug that they didn't get rid of. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:56, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Fence glitch ==

Very similar to the hill glitch and occurs in Ruby, Sapphire, and I think Emerald. In route 121- west of Lilycove- there is a man by a small collection of fences. Two steps directly below him is an item, but the fence is between him and the item. He's looking around, sometimes looking down. If you collect the item then stand where the item was, the man will see you and approach you- STANDING ON THE FENCE. This has happenned to me and I sufferred no ill effects. This only works the fisrt time you battle him, of course. Can this be added? [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:34, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Stupid question here, but... ==

How does the game know to call glitched eggs "bad eggs?" And don't give me crap that it's a fan term, because I watched my cousin get a bad egg and it was actually called that. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:53, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe the translators idea of a joke--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 22:55, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== GSC Mail and Battle House glitches ==

I realize that I'm posting a lot here, but I was playing my friend's Crystal version and tried to put mail in the box. It said the mailbox was full, so I went to the PC, and all of the "mail" in there was a bunch of radom question marks, something like this: ??? ? ????? ??? and so on. I tried taking the mail out and it seemed I succeeded, but it didn't show up in the bag and there was still no space. So I tried removing it all. Again, it seemed I was succeeding until I got about halfway through, then the game froze. Another time I went to the Battle House in Viridian City and my only opponent was a triner with a level 0 Typhlosion, and whenever I selected an action, no matter if it was "Run" or "Fight" or whatever, the game would freeze. Comments? [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 23:10, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:Sounds like your game cartridge is dying[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

== Glitches not working? ==

On Pokemon Red and Yellow, I tried the glitch stating that if you evolve your starter pokemon before you get your Pokedex, that the game won't let you progress, and it didn't work. I got my pokedex, and it had Charmander and Charmeleon in it, and I was able to move along just fine. Something needs to be done...there is either more to this glitch which should be included, or it should be removed for being false.

Also, on Yellow, I visited the Celadon City hotel which resembles a pokemon center as mentioned, and there was no invisible PC anywhere, so again, this needs to be changed or removed for being false.
[[User:Mortem|Mortem]] 23:20, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

:Please place new comments on the bottom of the page, thank you. As for the Invisible PC, that was removed it Yellow, as far as I know. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 23:22, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
::Sorry about that, I just thought the top seemed to be the logical place to place new stuff...but that's besides the point. I hadn't gotten that far on red/blue to test it out on there. What of the starter glitch? Do you need to evolve the pokemon twice or what? If that "preventing progress" does exist, it needs to be reworded, because it is not true as it is currently written. [[User:Mortem|Mortem]] 22:53, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
:::It says only "Gen I" so if it doesn't occur to you, I'd guess that that glitch is only in Japanese Red and Green versions. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 12:09, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Then should someone add that to the description? Or maybe I'll do it?

==weird==
My sister's friend has a glitched-up hall of fame on her firered. I know MissingNo/'M can cause this, but I'm pretty sure she's never seen a glitch pokemon when she's played. Two questions about this: One, does MissingNo/'M show up in an frlg pokedex? And is there any other explanation for this?[[User:Arceus is the Best|Arceus is the Best]] 17:17, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
:No, they do not show up in FR/LG, and the only other explanation I can think of is hacking. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 17:18, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
::Hacking doesnt equal glitches, im sorry to say[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:::No, not always, but improper hacking is almost certain to get SOME glitchiness if the data is messed up, [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 22:35, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
:::But not official glitches[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::::What do you mean by "official glitches"? I can make a FireRed ROM to put you fight a {{gp|?}} if I like, or make you face a [['M]] on a Blue ROM (which could cause the Hall of Fame glitch to occur), and that's hacking just like sprite and map editing. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 22:57, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::This is not a ROM, it's an actual cartridge, and she's never cheated. [[User:Arceus is the Best|Arceus is the Best]] 19:53, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

==Sticky hold glitch==
I'm surprised this one is missing. It only occurs very rarely, but it's really fun to look at when it does occur. As far as I know it doesn't exist in DPPt, and was introduced in RSE. It has two forms, a wild battle form, and a vs. battle form

For the wild battle form, just KO wild Grimers with covet. It happens rarely but sometimes wild Grimers hold nugget items. Also half the time they have sticky hold, half the time they have stench. If your pokemon KOs the Grimer with covet and had the opportunity to steal a nugget, but was denied the steal because of Sticky Hold, the sprite for the grimer does not disappear from the screen when the grimer faints.

For the Vs. battle form you need: two RSE games/GBAs, a weak pokemon with the "sticky hold" ability(a low lever Grimer is probably best), in the other game
Step 1: Set up a team where the first pokemon has the "Sticky hold" ability, and an item. (preferably a very low level one as it needs to get KOed by covet for the glitch to work, I used a L13 Grimer)
Step 2: double check to make sure you have a secret base setup somewhere the second game can access it.
Step 3: record swap so that the second game can battle against the team including Grimer.
Step 4: KO the Grimer with covet.

When it faints another pokemon will appear on the screen, but the game will still draw the Grimer sprite on top of it using the pallette from the pokemon that is actually battling. the Grimer sprite will remain in place until you switch to something other than the battle screen. - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Marhawkman}} ([[User talk:Marhawkman|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Marhawkman|contribs]]) ''
:Proof or no cookie. Upload to Youtube or something. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 21:17, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::-_-' I guess I could upload some digital camera pics to flickr.--[[User:Marhawkman|Marhawkman]] 01:46, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:::http://www.flickr.com/photos/11951562@N08/ You may now [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degeneration_X#Suck_it.21 Suck it!] :p no it is not possible for me to do a video upload.--[[User:Marhawkman|Marhawkman]] 01:05, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Nice. If you can get that written more encyclopedically and if anyone can figure out why this happens, I have no problem with inclusion. [http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/super_mario_cookie.jpg All yours :D] — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:20, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

== Graphical glitch? ==

Well, I was playing Pokémon Platinum, and when I was in the 2nd floor of the Ribbon Syndicate and I saw a graphical glitch. I was standing diagnol to the Poké statue on the right, and if I walked down once, the wall on the right Merged into the floor. This was on a DSi. Worth mentioning? I'm going to add it anyway for now, I'll try not to start a war.... --[[User:Cat2killer|CAT2 A.K.A Cat2killer]] 00:23, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
:It sometimes happens with the 3D engine. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:40, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
::Thats what I was thinking... I added it, but I can delete it, O powereful 'chidna --'''[[User:Cat2killer|Catu]] [[User talk:Cat2killer|the Cat]]''' 22:14, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

==Fishing==
I just encountered a weird graphical glitch in DP. You can fish on the tiles with swimmers on them. It doesn't matter if they move around or not. But, since it's so pointless, I don't know if it should be added.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 23:30, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Is there anywhere that says about that glitch in RBY where if you use cut and turn the game off the tree comes back on top of you? If so, this glitch should be in the same place. [[User:Mattiuscn|Mattiuscn]] 17:09, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

: Gou: I don't think that's a glitch at all - the game is coded to allow fishing if there's a water tile directly infront of the player. I don't think it's supposed to matter if there's something else on the tile as well. Ignoring real-world principles of personal space invasion, it's perfectly possible that the player is fishing very close to the swimmer. Mattiuscn: It's under [[Glitch#Pokémon_Red_and_Blue|Minor Glitches]] for Pokémon Red and Blue - look for the bullet point Cut Glitch. --[[User:Raylax|Raylax]] 20:09, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

==Dratini Glitch==

I just tried the Dratini Glitch on my Gold. The message wasn't permanate. I pressed the A button and it went away. I don't know why.[[User:Pokemon champ|Pokemon champ]] 05:53, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

: Never mind I misread it. I thought it meant that it would be stuck at that screen but I read it more closely.[[User:Pokemon champ|Pokemon champ]] 08:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

==Fly + Brave Bird Glitch==

I found this out by accident but a Pokémon uses {{m|Fly}}, and then your partner uses {{m|Brave Bird}}, at the end of Brave Bird, even though your partner is in the air, the Pokémon usinf Fly can be seen for a short while. It's an error not a glitch as much but is it enough to take not of?--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 01:18, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Glitches, errors, and bugs are basically the same thing. Yes I would say it is notable :) --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 13:08, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

== Pal Park Glitch 'Mon? ==

What happens if a Glitch Pokémon from the 3rd generation is transferred via Pal Park to 4th gen? Is it transformed into a legitimate species, or does it remain a glitch? Or does the 4th gen title detect it and refuse transfer? --[[User:Raylax|Raylax]] 13:20, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

It theoretically would turn into a 4th generation Pokemon if you decided to transfer a Pokemon with an index number over 386 but below 494 however on all cases the game gives a short message and refuses you from transferring it. I tried transferring a Unown with a safari ball, it wouldn't let me but as soon as I took it off the Unown I could transfer it. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 13:12, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

== Lv100 cheat ==

Any proof for this? Seems to me like a random fake cheat. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 08:18, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
:Me too, but there are various videos on Youtube. I'm not an expert, though. Apparently it can be done in more places than just Viridian Forest. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:50, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

No, this is true! Basically you perform the method 3 of the mew trick. The mew/other pokemon usually appears at level 7 but if you use growl six times on the enemy pokemon it will make the pokemon you encounter level 1 (because the byte depends on how many boosts/drops the attack stat has gained, it begins at 7 and goes up to 13 or down to 1)

After obtaining a level 1 mew or a third stage evolution Pokemon there is a bug in the algorithm where the game presumes there is a negative number of experience to level 2 (displayed as a very large number). Therefore upon levelling that pokemon it will skip to level 100. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 13:16, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

I just tested, and it DOES work in the US version of Yellow. However, it does NOT work in Red/Blue because none of the trainers in Viridian Forest (or anywhere before Cerulean for that matter) challenge you just as they appear on the edge of the screen. I also changed the "Growl level-1 times" to "Growl 6 times." For me, using Growl level-1 times always resulted in level 4 or 5 Pokémon, which don't jump to 100. Meeting Pidgeys and Rattatas (and always Growling 6 times) gave me level 1 Voltorbs and Nidokings, respectively.

Since it's a relatively complex glitch, and hard to follow along reading the long paragraph of instructions, it might do better as a numbered step-by-step list. --[[User:Chupi|Chupi]] 09:18, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
:The Rocket in Mt. Moon (Red/Blue) who says "we're pulling a big job here" works. However, you'll either need to beat a trainer afterward (as in the Mew glitch), or use the Brock skip glitch so you can still use the guy who walks you to Pewter Gym. --[[User:Chupi|Chupi]] 22:58, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, growl 6 times. You also have to get a very low amount of exp to get from level 1 to level 100 though. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 23:59, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

== Raikiou Glitch ==

Back when i played crystal, i had this Raikiou. It was fine for about a year but then everytime i sent it into a battle the screen would fill with question marks and it would be really difficult to be able to do anything, but if i attacked the screen would return to normal and my raikiou would be invincible for three battles (damage was instantly healed) and all its attacks were one hit k.o.s then after three battles the game would freeze. i have since restarted my crystal to replay it because of HG and SS so i cant get any pictures, but this really did happen. i'm not sure why but the raikiou was named either ?, ??? or a full name bar of ?s. did anyone else ever experience this? {{unsigned|The hugarh}}

== F8 Glitch ==
While messing with the memory address of pokemon blue, I have came across another error message, ERROR 7, I don't know if this is important or not, I just wanted to make mention here. --[[User:Chibiace|Chibiace]] 23:01, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
:You can add that to the table (or I could do it for you) if you know what the error was caused by. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:59, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
::I'll see if my exploits in corrupting Pokémon red and blue come up with any more error codes, though I am not sure if there is anymore (I think I remember another error, but it may be error 48, but I am sure it came up during a glitch city exploration, hopefully I still can get it to come up.) [[User:Chibiace|Chibiace]] 00:22, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
:::If the error numbers go up to 48 then I'm assuming there are at least that many. Let me know if you find any more :) [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:21, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

==Black Belt Gibberish==
''Black Belt Gibberish: For unknown reasons, a certain Black Belt in Sinnoh's Victory Road may speak glitchy gibberish upon defeat. The users who discovered this both chose Chimchar as their starter and nicknamed it. ''
:I totally got this today, but my starter was an unnicknamed Turtwig. Significance? [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:59, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

It's a shame there aren't any pictures yet. Are you able to reproduce the glitch? [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 02:49, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:I'll try and see if I can use the Vs. Seeker to re-fight this guy. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:16, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

I had this glitch on my game with a female nicknamed empoleon, Maybe the gender has something to do with it? --[[User:MayaTheEmpoleon|MayaTheEmpoleon]] 15:44, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
:No, I discovered it, and my starter is male. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 04:53, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Next time if you get it again please get a picture of it if you can for reference (not that I don't believe you). Are you able to reproduce it? [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 05:01, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
:Yes I can. I turned off the power after I beat him, so I'll fight him again. I don't know how to take screenshots, though. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 20:15, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Use a camera? lol [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 04:04, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

==Emerald and reliable cloning==
It's possible that the sentence describing Gen II as having the most reliable cloning glitch is very old, maybe even pre-dating the discovery of the Emerald glitch. Nonetheless, I'd have to rank Emerald's as being the most reliable cloning glitch in the history of the games, in that it doesn't require any sense of timing whatsoever, making it nigh-impossible to mess up. Thoughts? [[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]] 15:04, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I thought the same on that. --[[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 02:48, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

== Teru-sama ==

I have a Monster Brain which shows the GS Ball in Crystal (English version). I have tried that and the Teru-sama in the corresponding slot of Gold (English version) and neither work. Wikipedia has stated that the GS Ball will ''never'' work in the English version of Crystal because the routines required for the event were left out of all non-Japanese language versions. Unfortunately, they have watered-down their Pokémon entries so much they only state that it cannot be caught, but not why. I have just confirmed this one last time. What do the hackers hack? ROMs? If it only works in ROMs, say so. ROMs should not count anyway. [[User:White Phoenix|White Phoenix]] 07:11, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

The Pokémon Communication Center stuff was removed, and that's where the GS Ball was available from in Japan. However most of the rest of it remains. I've used a GameShark code to obtain the GS Ball, then another one to get Kurt to take it. The next day, he gives it back to you, and you can take it to the shrine in Ilex Forest and catch a Celebi.

The Communication Center was removed because it required the GBC to be connected to a smart phone, which weren't so common with kids in the US in 2001. The one-time event that gave you the GS Ball in Japan also activated Kurt accepting the ball, hence the requirement of 2 GameShark codes. The only routines that were removed were in the Comm Center. --[[User:Chupi|Chupi]] 05:15, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

== Box Trick and Other Missing Glitches ==

Shouldn’t the box trick from the first two generations be included? It doesn’t seem that the programmers intended the stats to be manipulated, only recreated to avoid storing the stats for each pokémon in the boxes.

I have a list of glitches, tips and tricks that I have collected. Here is a list of the confirmed glitches not listed in this article and the sources if I had them. (When I first started collecting I didn’t write down the source.) Some of these were extremely long, so I edited them. Details available upon request.

Mew
Source: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (en.wikipedia.org) [I cannot find the paragraph now. It was either moved or deleted.]
It is also possible to get a mew in the Pokémon game, without intending to capture one. In several instances, in the trade center of a PokéCenter, trades have glitched and a mew was spawned from the chaos, as well as a pidgeot. In five instances, a machoke was traded for a graveler, and five times, a mew and a pidgeot were spawned. The graveler and machoke were deleted however.
[Note that the glitch is that two pokémon were downloaded instead of one.]

Alternate Pokémon Colors [The precursors of shiny pokémon? –Editor] (Stadium)
If you nickname your pokémon in the Game Boy game and bring it into Stadium, it will have changed color depending on what you nicknamed it! Possibilities range from an orange pikachu to a sea green tentacruel.

These are not shiny pokémon, because shiny pokémon were not invented when Stadium was released. [However, it may have given Nintendo ideas to do it deliberately. –Editor]

Mew Warning (Stadium) (unconfirmed, but worth noting in case it is true)
Do not trade a mew level 10 or higher in the trading mode in Stadium. It will glitch the game, and if you want your data back, you must call Nintendo (1-800-225-3700) to fix it.

Cloning Items
While cloning pokémon from Generation 2 and later, the items the pokémon are holding are cloned as well. If the user is interested in cloning items only, they would use useless/common pokémon like pidgeys, rattatas or weedles.

Easy Gifts and Battles
Obtain several phone numbers, then go to your house and tell your mom to switch on or off daylight savings. Your phone friends will give you calls almost immediately, and you will get to fight them or receive gifts.

Unlimited Mystery Gifts
This occurs since the programmers did not foresee a problem. The user capitalizes on the resetting of the clock to trick the game into allowing mystery gift trades more frequently than once a day per friend.

[[User:White Phoenix|White Phoenix]] 08:43, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

==56 ERROR==
I found a sixth error, I can reproduce this by using the Ditto Trick on my Pokémon Blue cartridge to fight a trainer (eg Blaine), and defeating their Pokémon. Instead of the text for winning it quickly displays 56 ERROR and then gives you your winnings. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 02:57, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I should have explained more fully.
The Ditto trick is a variation of the Mew Glitch which is performed simliarly.
First, fly away from the trainer, as in the Mew glitch.
Second, battle any trainer, making sure they have to walk to you.
However the next part is different.
You must now get a pokemon with a certain special stat. Each possible special stat up to 255 (after which it rolls over, 256 = 0, 257 = 1 etc.) corresponds to a different pokémon or possibly even a trainer (very high numbers) depending on it's hexadecimal value. Have that pokemon in your first party slot.
Now find a wild Ditto. Use an item such as X accuracy or X speed so that ditto will transform into your Pokémon.
After Ditto has transformed, defeat it normally.
DO NOT GET INTO ANY BATTLES AFTER.
Then, go to the spot where you would normally be getting Mew to appear.
The start menu pops up as normal and when you exit, battle will resume.
This glitch can be used to find glitch pokemon and trainers. Trainers may not have their usual pokémon, for example Bruno could have Blaine's team.
I hope this helped.
[[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 22:28, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

== Fire Spin Glitch ==

I found information about a Generation I Fire spin glitch that occurs in link battles. It is complicated but you can find information about it on the gltich city labs forums. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 03:00, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

== Small, Random Glitch Pokemon ==

While messing around with the 'make any pokemon appear' code on a gameboy color game, I discovered that by putting in random, two-digit letters and numbers (ex. hex code is: 01xx1ED1. xx=LETTERNUMBER, such as E4 or 4E), several similar glitch pokemon appear. The glitch pokemon have the name of one pokemon, but the sprite of another. They sometimes make the letters glitchy and when you press 'a' to read more text or when any pokemon in the battle attacks, several random sounds begin playing.

Just a small discovery I made. Is it worth mentioning anywhere? Or is the method to actually see these glitch pokemon too random and unpredictabe? --[[User:Ame|雨]] 23:06, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Which game? Anyway sounds interesting and I'm sure it oculd be incorporated into the article if we knew what generation section to put it in. Was Gameboy color meaning gold, silver, crystal, red blue or yellow? [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 03:28, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
:If it was Gold/Silver/Crystal then possibly, but if it was Red/Blue/Yellow then no. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|Snorlax]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|Monster]] 05:17, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

The game was red/blue. I'll try and find some pictures.--[[User:Ame|雨]] 12:19, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
:I thought current policy was not to include glitch Pokémon that are only available through modifying the game data. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 13:14, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

If that's so, Andy, I'm sorry, I didn't know. But that would make sense, I wondered about that too. --[[User:Ame|雨]] 21:21, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry Andy, I thought that was for creating articles.. silly me. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 22:43, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

::::: Are you serious!? If so then WHY do we have DPhybrids on our glitch pokemon list?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 15:28, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

== R/B Errors ==

This section is so wrong I don't know where to begin. The screenshot of the "59 error" clearly shows "5 ERROR" (i.e. code 5), just with some random crap before it. The table even says the two are the same, just with 59 having crap before it.

This doesn't make a lick of sense:
:Mixed errors usually generated when the game mixes three or more errors, and instead of using standard error codes, the game looks in the other character folders and may use letters or other symbols for the error code. This may crash or freeze the game.
Folders? There are no folders. Perhaps they meant to say the game displays gibberish in place of an error message, or doesn't correctly load the text graphics first? I've never seen such a case. [[User:HyperHacker|HyperHacker]] 03:33, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

== Firered/Leafgreen Suicune (Minor) Glitch ==

Evidently all Suicune from said games have extremely low (though legal) iv stats. I noticed that they were all at zero or single digit values after catching it a number of times. And yes, I did make sure that I was catching it without a previous encounter (in which presumably the IV's would have been fixed). A google search indicates that this is a known glitch. Is this significant enough for inclusion?--[[User:Gsnipe|Gsnipe]] 04:07, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

The IV's for the three dogs are set when you start the game (Eg. if you wanted another IV set you would have to start a new game). This also goes for nature, shininess etc. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 05:16, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:I've played through FR twice and gotten improbably low IVs both times on Suicune. I'd still attribute this to bad luck if not for this thread at GameSpot: http://www.gamespot.com/ds/rpg/pokemondiamond/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-42723270&pid=925601
::Looks like there's a post about this on Smogon too. http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45644--[[User:Gsnipe|Gsnipe]] 15:24, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:::It's not just Suicune. See my [[Talk:Glitch#Glitched_IV.27s_for_Roaming_Legendaries.3F|answer below]] for more info. ~ [[User:HackMew|HackMew]] 15:14, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

== Egg Hatching Glitch ==
I just encountered a somewhat odd glitch. I traded over a Shinx egg from my Pearl to my Platinum to hatch it. I had already hatched it on my Pearl (without saving) so I knew how many steps it would take to hatch it, roughly. It was a lot. Yet, I went downstairs and outside and within two to three more steps (19 total steps), it hatched. I reset and put the Egg in the PC and withdrew it, it had the correct steps to hatch. If anyone asks, yes I can repeat the glitch. No, I do not use an AR or any cheating devices.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 19:29, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
:More on it. Apparently, withdrawing it from the same PC doesn't work for some reason. To get the right steps, I had to withdraw it from another PC or leave the map and come back. Go figure.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 19:32, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
::Did you have any Pokémon with {{a|Magma Armor}} or {{a|Flame Body}} in either of your parties? If not, it may not even be a glitch, but an Easter egg (no pun intended), so that traded eggs hatch faster. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 01:23, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:::...I use that all the time. But, no. I had just restarted my Platinum, so all that was in my party was my Turtwig. And I also didn't have one at the time in my Pearl game. Also, it wasn't half the steps. It hatched after 19 steps compared to the normal roughly 100 steps. And I've traded enough eggs to know that it doesn't affect hatch steps.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 04:33, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

It's normal. The egg rilies on a counter that is lowered every time a certain number of steps is done. When the counter reaches 0, egg hatches. Different Pokémon have different starting numbers (That's why Magikarp hatches fast whereas say Chimchar doesn't).

When you do a soft reset I would say that the number of steps required to lower the counter is reset to max. That's why the first time it took only 19 steps.

I hope this helps. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 06:44, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:If that was the problem, then it would have been reset to max after trading. It also would've hatched after 19 steps ''on my Pearl version'', which it didn't.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 17:53, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

==Platinum, Poké Ball, Blue?==
On my Platinum version, a normal Poké Ball works really well on Pokémon that are mostly colored blue. I caught Dialga at lv. 70 witha regular Poké Ball. I caught Azelf and Regice with one as well. Granyed, I have the earliest release of Platinum in the US, but why does this happen? ~ [[User:L.S.B.|L.S.B.]]

:Just a coincidence for you. Poké Balls do not work better on blue Pokémon. [[User:Tyro|Tyro]] 18:45, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

== Glitched IV's for Roaming Legendaries? ==

So, after Playing through FireRed a couple times and noticing that Suicune's IV's were abnormally low (as in, 0's in 4 stats and single digit for the rest), I tried grabbing a Raikou. It had abysmal IV's as well. Then I noticed a Latias I caught from Sapphire had IV's that were just like the Beasts, with 4-5 zeros. Google has turned up a few discussion board posts claiming that all Roaming Legendaries in the third generation games have the same problem, with the exception of Emerald. But beyond that I haven't found anything solid. Can anyone clear this up? {{unsigned|Gsnipe}}

I'm pretty sure because of the way those game works some IV sets are not possible for legendary Pokémon, when combined with other things such as a nature you want, you most likely will get lower IV's. This is not exactly a glitch, it is just the game's psuedo-random number generators are terrible in Gen III. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 03:10, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
:Nope... it's possible to get good natures/IVs on Gen III, just like any other game. However, FRLG has a particular error in the coding that prevents the roaming beasts from having any IVs over like... uuuuuh 11 or so? Something like that. I think it should be added, personally... ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 03:26, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
:: Well, the glitch affects all roaming legendaries in all 3rd gen. games except Emerald where it got fixed. This means Latios in Ruby, Latias in Sapphire and Raikou/Entei/Suicune in FR/LG. The glitched IVs are the result of a buggy code: only 8 out of 30 bits will be saved in the wild data upon meeting the Pokémon. This means only the HP IV will be stored correctly along with the first 3 bits of the Attack stat. The rest will be set to 0. While the IVs are stored the wrong way, the IVs are still stored correctly into a special, reserved RAM area. This means with a bit of effort and patience, one could theorically recover the proper IVs and manually fix his/her roaming Pokémon. If anyone needs more technical data, feel free to ask. ~ [[User:HackMew|HackMew]] 15:09, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

==Poké Ball spin glitch==
I came across [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avm0J5Hy8vQ&feature=related this] by accident. Someone already mentioned it, and I hid it until proven. Does this prove it? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:40, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

==List of glitches==
I dislike it. It also means that it has to be updated every time anything is added to [[list of minor glitches]]. I suggest that either we make '''list of minor glitches''' into '''list of glitches''' and just link to that from here, or remove the minor glitches section and direct reads to list of minor glitches. Thoughts? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:46, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

==My post==
I just noticed my Post on a glitch was deleted when I actually had proof that it exists. Why was this? [[User:Lunyka|Lunyka]] 05:10, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

And someone moved it down here, Well I hope it isn't spam being down here but I posted about the 731 glitch and some proof that it might actually exist and it just disappeared. {{unsigned|Lunyka}}
:I moved it down here because that's how talk pages work here. New comments/subjects go to the bottom. And it disappeared because someone deleted it, because they probably considered it to be fake and spam.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 05:59, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
::I read what you linked to, it seems pretty fake, and even if it's not, then it's not a glitch, so it's irrelevant here. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:11, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

== greenman ==

I used an action replay code and now the Green Man wont leave the Pokemart when i talk to him he says oops and wont go away. {{unsigned|Charizard106042}}

1. Cheating isn't notable 
2. Go and ask someone on the forums --> [http://bgmf.bulbagarden.net]

Thanks, [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 03:37, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

== Infinate Money Glitch ==

Um I think I found a glitch on Heartgold that gives you infinite money I dunno if a glitch like that was already know of. I couldn't find one reading through bulbapedia but I don't really know a lot about computers etc (evidently)so I was just wondering if everyone already knew about it [[User:Sugerfreek|Sugerfreek]] 09:56, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
:How do you trigger the glitch? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:04, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

:ok this is the detail i remember I was breeding Eevee so I put like a level 21 Espeon and a level 27 Ditto (may be slightly different) in the care centre below goldenrod. I then went to goldenrod cycled about the man called me I went and collected the egg. Then I went back to cycle in goldenrod (my team was a level 89 Pidgeot and level 1 Togepi if that is relevant) the guy was taking a while to call and sometimes if you go back to the day care man before he rings he has the egg anyway. So I cycled back and once I was next to him he rang me saying he had my egg. I answered the call and following the call I accidently called my mum. I was pressing b to shut her up when she told me I had 8888888 saved and if I wanted to start saving again (but I have never saved money) I said no. Collected the next egg and flew home where my mum did have the money I withdrew some and then went to the shop and it let me buy thing with no bad side effects. The game didn't crash and the eggs hatched normally. I dunno what causes glitches so I dunno what information is relevant or not. hope that helps. [[User:Sugerfreek|Sugerfreek]] 15:51, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
::The information you have given me (other than that it was 8888888) doesn't seem helpful. Have you ever used any kind of cheating device, or tried a glitch such as [[tweaking]]? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:57, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

:hahaha no I'm crap with technology the game is quite old though it has almost 200 hours racked up on it. Do you think it was just because the cart was really old? I'm just playing it on my normal ds lite [[User:Sugerfreek|Sugerfreek]] 15:59, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
::200 hours isn't that old... (but I think it's more than my SS). Anyway, it ''could'' be caused by a dirty cartridge/game, but that is unlikely. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 16:02, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

:anyway I don't know anything about hacking glitches why they occur etc...... so I thought I would tell someone that might know something about it so that if it was of relevance people could maybe look into it I dunno what steps of the glitch were relevant or not. So hopefully someone will look into it or whatever [[User:Sugerfreek|Sugerfreek]] 16:07, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

::Have you put magnets near your game? The fact that it was "888888" seems to have all the relevant bytes written the same.... [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 21:47, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

:Not as far as I'm aware I travel a lot and sometimes I will just keep the game in my handbag which is near my phone I dunno if that does anything. Just thought my Pidgeot was holding an amulet coin (I dunno if that is relevant) [[User:Sugerfreek|Sugerfreek]] 16:56, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

::Perhaps there is a chance that recieving messages could have done it... I'm not really sure on this one though [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 21:31, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

== Mystery zone/Real map merge!? ==

:I was fooling around on Pokemon Pearl version with my AR Walk through walls code when I decided to try going all arounnd the screen. Okey, this was an accident but I FORGOT where I was. But when I cheked the Poketch APP map I it said I was on the very edge of the screen. That's how I got the idea to try to define the edge of the map. You really can't tell if you are moving or not so I just kept going. I thought that if I went over the edge then A: game freeze. or B: I would wind up on the opposite side of the map. Well I was HALF right on B. I was back where I left the real map but everything was dark. I found out that I was back where I started was NOT the APP. It still said I was on the edge of the screen before I had looped around. I found it by stepping in a patch of grass. It still had the wild Raticate that where there when I left. Even after the battle it was still dark. Now that I am writting this I can't belive that I didn't even try Flash. In my defense, I was worried about what would happen to my game it I accidentily saved there. Does anyone know what this is?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 15:46, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Glitch

2010-12-17T15:28:30Z

Celibi25: /* Small, Random Glitch Pokemon */

I have heard about a glitch pokémon called Flootenkerp, that is a a mix of a mewtwo and a pikachu, and I want to know if it's true. Does anyone knows if it really exists? -- [[User:Luke|Luke]] 12 May, 2006

Anyone heard of that glitch in Emerald that allows for the cloning of Pokemon? Should that be documented here? PikamasterADV 31 July, 2006

There no cloning giltch in Emerald. --[[User:Philip1992|Philip1992]] 14:41, 30 August 2006 (UTC)Philip1992

Yes there is. Someone on Serebii.net found it, someone else tried it out & rewrote it in english.
http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=134181 [[User:Slim|Slim]] 18:55, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Tweaking ==
I'm going to go ahead and throw the Tweaking glitch into another category, it's listed with the Glitch Pokemon for DP as of now. Feel free to move it back if you wish so. [[User:Vekter|Vekter]] 17:10, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

== 1st gen beta item makes HM03 pointless ==

I found a Hex list online with RBY item values, and I found a key item called ?????, and I used GameShark to put it on my Yellow. When used, the player can surf without a Pokémon. It was likely scrapped before the game was finished. I'm not sure if you need Koga's badge or not, since I already had it, anyway. I just thought it should be mentioned. --{{ani|250}}[[User:Fsilone|爆発
]]{{ani|249}}[[Special:Contributions/Fsilone|ばくはつ
]] 18:04, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

== Glitch Trainer Pokemon ==

I saw an article about this somewhere and I can't seem to find it anymore. So in the meantime this post shall go here. My name in the game right now is ??!! male sign twice, female sign. Now the main point is that Bulbapedia doesn't talk about the two glitch pokemon that I've encountered via the Missingno. glitch. With this name executing the Missingno. glitch, the trainers that I end up fighting are: Channeler, CoolTrainer (Male), and Blaine, the gym leader. They have six pokemon and all are the same and as follows: A glitch pokemon I dubbed L8 (true name is what seems to be a right triangle,katakana symbol, 2 glitch boxes, followed by an 8). It seems to be the rock type, because grass moves are effective, and normal attacks are not. Its two attacks are Tackle and Screech. And for some reason, it changes backround music to some weird tune. It has no cry other than the changing of music. After which is followed up with a glitch Nidorino. It knows Razor Wind, Horn Attack, Tackle, and TM48 (the glitch explosion). Then the trainer pulls out a classic Missingno. (2 water guns and sky attack). Then another glitch pokemon which I dubbed Pokemon N (True Name: PKMN symbols 3 glitch boxes, then the letter N). Its cry is the tune for the Song move. It knows Tackle and Leer. After that one, a completely normal Flareon comes up. Then another glitch Nidorino pops up. After you defeat that one the match ends and you earn money. Why do these two pokemon show up, and why does the music change is all I want to know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:MrMcMan|MrMcMan]] ([[User talk:MrMcMan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MrMcMan|contribs]]).
:I've heard of this happening, stuff like wild Oaks and Cooltrainers. If you have screens to prove it, add a section, but write it encyclopedically. Not as a story that happened to you, but neutrally so that anyone who's encountered similar can add to the topic... Y'know? And sign your name next time, dude. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 07:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I would add images and such...if only I knew how to get good quality ones. I have a printer/copier/scanner hooked up to my computer, but I'm not sure how to get it so that only the gameplay image comes up, and not any of the background (such as the gameboy itself, my hands, the room, etc.). If you could e-mail me or somehow send me this information, I would be more than happy to put up images and whatnot.(E-mail: name_unknown000@hotmail.com) --MrMcMan 7:22pm(Central Time) November 15, 2006
:Email sent. Also, <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> signs your name better than having to check the date/time of your posts. Just type it after every Talk Page post you make, and you'll have no problems, like this: [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 06:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I have had this happen on my BLUE VERSION. It has to do with your name. [[User:Animine|Animine]] 22:45, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Here we are: http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Wild_Prof._Oak.JPG
The video i took the screen from: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=lQHTKF7q98M
His website explaining how to do it: http://pokegodmaster.tripod.com/Oakinred/

([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 09:46, 22 December 2008 (UTC))

== u66865rue45 ==
"u66865rue45" does not seem to be a glitch that can be caught with any specific method -- the website proving its existance, http://www.trsrockin.com/linkcable.html, only states its name and nothing else, and states no ''constant'' method of obtaining it -- unlike glitches such as [[Z4]], [[X - x]], and [[LM4]], which can all be found with the [[Mew glitch]]. u66865rue45 probably does exist, and there probably is a way to find it, but until that method can be stated, it should not be mentioned. Also, on the source website, other glitches with long unreadable names are mentioned, meaning that this glitch is probably a random result of a link cable being pulled. (Also, person on the source website who states the glitch "u66865rue45" isn't even sure that's the right name). [[User:Latitude0116|Latitude0116]] 01:48, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

This 'glitch pokemon' has no index number and is most likely a graphical error or one to do with the interface, for example if the game thinks that you are on the map screen when you are battle the HP bar sprite will be translated to a character with the same index number, so when you hit the pokemon you may notice something like that. A similar story though if you are interested, on Pokemon gold when about to talk to elite four koga I accidentally shifted the cartridge, the game must have been confused and displayed the legitimate message in a glitchy font of heads and faces.

--[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 13:24, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

It could have been found using the fire spin glitch (a method for it is somewhere on the GCL forums). [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 08:03, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

== Another glitch town ==

My friend told about this and im not sure if it is true or not...
When you play, stop in the town where you get the skill to use cut outside battles.
Then DO NOT GO TO THE SHIP TO GET THE CUT. Instead, trade a pokemon with cut from a friend's game.
Continue on playing the game until you acquire surf, and are able to use it outside battle.
Go back to the town where the ship is. access the ship pier, but DO NOT GET IN TO THE SHIP.
Instead, when you are on the pier, with the door to ship down from you, surf left from the pier.
Surf on, until you see a town.

That's it. all that I know about it. I would be happy if someone would test this out for me.

--[[User:AtomicTroop|AtomicTroop]] 14:44, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
:[[The truck]] strikes again. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 20:59, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

== IND ==
Should we add stuff about this? (watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyLUNhpiZDw&mode=related&search= ) --[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 20:50, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Here's a pic of it:
[[Image:IND.JPG|300px]]--[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 21:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:Meh. Just looks like another [http://forums.glitchcity.info/index.php/topic,2094.0.html decamark] to me. --[[User:Gawaxay|Gawaxay]] 19:10, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

== Unknown Glitch ==
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IyzWl_MEO0A
That is a glitch, and would it be okay to put on the page? [[User:X3ni92]]
:Judging by your name, are you the owner of that Smeargle? If yes... then... does it do that every time? o3o [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i am the owner of that smeargle, and every time i try to look at its summary it does that, if use it in battle (against a pokemon trainer) if i choose attack then press b then go to items and use any type of poke ball it will catch there pokemon and go to the pokedex, but once it asks for a nickname it freezes with the same pink screen wih a safari ball in the middle. [[User:X3ni92]]
:Weird. Probably a side effect of an Action Replay... [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:49, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i don't have an action replay o.o [[User:X3ni92]]
:Oh. Weird. Because you said uh, that you could catch trainer's Pokémon. Then jeez, something is seriously screwed up with that Smeargle.  [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:53, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i don't know whats wrong with it :/
i have a weird Unknown too, it has other moves then Hidden Power it got these moves (smeargle got the virus/glitch) after i traded them from Pokemon XD [[User:X3ni92]]
:Maybe something happened on the XD data on the Memory Card, so it screws up Pokémon data and such. Maybe you should try trading over another Pokémon from XD, and if that Pokémon is awkward too, then I think something's up with your GC→GBA link cable or your XD data. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 03:02, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i did that with Houndour and Totodile and they work fine and evolved fine too. [[User:X3ni92]]

so would this be considered a glitch or not? [[User:X3ni92|X3ni92]] 02:55, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:Probably just your game, methinks. Not really notable enough, or considered a seperate glitch that could work on a bunch of different carts. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:58, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
okay. 
Thanks anyways! [[User:X3ni92|X3ni92]] 03:18, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

== Now thats a thought. ==

What happens (in Gen 2, 3, 4) when you breed a Glitch? I mean, think about it, what happens when you breed two of the same Glitches, or two different Glitches, or a Glitch and a Pokémon? |: Has anyone ever tried this before? [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 14:56, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:My friend tried it a few times(He's an adept hacker). His results:
1- Game froze.
2- Bad Egg; never hatched.
3- Bad Egg; game crashed; saved data deleted.
4(new cart)- Game froze.
5- Game froze.
Theoretically, it's possible, but I wouldn't try it. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:49, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Why? ==

Why are there 2 tweaking here? tc26 23:07, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

== is this beta glitch a "glitch zigzagoon" or a "no item glitch", both, or does it not exist ==

i got a beta r/s/e mailed to me by mistake. it wont save so its useless. any way i got a zizagoon. it was`nt holding anything and if i gave it will say "its alredy holding an item". if i took the "item" from it the screen displays "its not holding anything". make up your mind! what do you think? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Whatswithalltheextraspace|Whatswithalltheextraspace]] ([[User talk:Whatswithalltheextraspace|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Whatswithalltheextraspace|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:Ithink that's why it's called a "beta game." Just a bug they hadn't worked out yet. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 23:02, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==Town Map Glitch==
Erm,I used a cheating device to walk through walls and go to the mystery zone,then I used a town map.When it returned to the map,it became all glitchy(Trees were white,rocks became different,etc.)Should that be mentioned on the article? [[User:ShinyEmpoleon|ShinyEmpoleon]] 05:47, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
: No, that's just a side effect of the Walk through Walls code. It's happenned to me. I bet the game was fine other than that, wasn't it? Same happenned to my friend when he used the code to go over a building seperating the routes. The city's colors were off. He went inside a building and everything was fine. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 23:00, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==FRLG Glitch==
One time (i forget the date, but it was sometime last week or this week) I loaded my Fire Red while i was in the Pokémon Center, and The entire thing was all glitched up. There were invisible walls everywhere, and the Center was enlongated. However, besides that, everything still worked as normal. I know it was the first time I had played it in a while, and when I left the center, everything was normal. Now that I think about it, it could have been Ruby or Sapphire. Anyone else ever experience this? Me and my fellow torchics agree on this - Sk8torchic 19:28, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
: Probably a bug that they didn't get rid of. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:56, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Fence glitch ==

Very similar to the hill glitch and occurs in Ruby, Sapphire, and I think Emerald. In route 121- west of Lilycove- there is a man by a small collection of fences. Two steps directly below him is an item, but the fence is between him and the item. He's looking around, sometimes looking down. If you collect the item then stand where the item was, the man will see you and approach you- STANDING ON THE FENCE. This has happenned to me and I sufferred no ill effects. This only works the fisrt time you battle him, of course. Can this be added? [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:34, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Stupid question here, but... ==

How does the game know to call glitched eggs "bad eggs?" And don't give me crap that it's a fan term, because I watched my cousin get a bad egg and it was actually called that. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:53, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe the translators idea of a joke--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 22:55, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== GSC Mail and Battle House glitches ==

I realize that I'm posting a lot here, but I was playing my friend's Crystal version and tried to put mail in the box. It said the mailbox was full, so I went to the PC, and all of the "mail" in there was a bunch of radom question marks, something like this: ??? ? ????? ??? and so on. I tried taking the mail out and it seemed I succeeded, but it didn't show up in the bag and there was still no space. So I tried removing it all. Again, it seemed I was succeeding until I got about halfway through, then the game froze. Another time I went to the Battle House in Viridian City and my only opponent was a triner with a level 0 Typhlosion, and whenever I selected an action, no matter if it was "Run" or "Fight" or whatever, the game would freeze. Comments? [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 23:10, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:Sounds like your game cartridge is dying[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

== Glitches not working? ==

On Pokemon Red and Yellow, I tried the glitch stating that if you evolve your starter pokemon before you get your Pokedex, that the game won't let you progress, and it didn't work. I got my pokedex, and it had Charmander and Charmeleon in it, and I was able to move along just fine. Something needs to be done...there is either more to this glitch which should be included, or it should be removed for being false.

Also, on Yellow, I visited the Celadon City hotel which resembles a pokemon center as mentioned, and there was no invisible PC anywhere, so again, this needs to be changed or removed for being false.
[[User:Mortem|Mortem]] 23:20, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

:Please place new comments on the bottom of the page, thank you. As for the Invisible PC, that was removed it Yellow, as far as I know. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 23:22, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
::Sorry about that, I just thought the top seemed to be the logical place to place new stuff...but that's besides the point. I hadn't gotten that far on red/blue to test it out on there. What of the starter glitch? Do you need to evolve the pokemon twice or what? If that "preventing progress" does exist, it needs to be reworded, because it is not true as it is currently written. [[User:Mortem|Mortem]] 22:53, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
:::It says only "Gen I" so if it doesn't occur to you, I'd guess that that glitch is only in Japanese Red and Green versions. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 12:09, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Then should someone add that to the description? Or maybe I'll do it?

==weird==
My sister's friend has a glitched-up hall of fame on her firered. I know MissingNo/'M can cause this, but I'm pretty sure she's never seen a glitch pokemon when she's played. Two questions about this: One, does MissingNo/'M show up in an frlg pokedex? And is there any other explanation for this?[[User:Arceus is the Best|Arceus is the Best]] 17:17, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
:No, they do not show up in FR/LG, and the only other explanation I can think of is hacking. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 17:18, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
::Hacking doesnt equal glitches, im sorry to say[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:::No, not always, but improper hacking is almost certain to get SOME glitchiness if the data is messed up, [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 22:35, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
:::But not official glitches[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::::What do you mean by "official glitches"? I can make a FireRed ROM to put you fight a {{gp|?}} if I like, or make you face a [['M]] on a Blue ROM (which could cause the Hall of Fame glitch to occur), and that's hacking just like sprite and map editing. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 22:57, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::This is not a ROM, it's an actual cartridge, and she's never cheated. [[User:Arceus is the Best|Arceus is the Best]] 19:53, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

==Sticky hold glitch==
I'm surprised this one is missing. It only occurs very rarely, but it's really fun to look at when it does occur. As far as I know it doesn't exist in DPPt, and was introduced in RSE. It has two forms, a wild battle form, and a vs. battle form

For the wild battle form, just KO wild Grimers with covet. It happens rarely but sometimes wild Grimers hold nugget items. Also half the time they have sticky hold, half the time they have stench. If your pokemon KOs the Grimer with covet and had the opportunity to steal a nugget, but was denied the steal because of Sticky Hold, the sprite for the grimer does not disappear from the screen when the grimer faints.

For the Vs. battle form you need: two RSE games/GBAs, a weak pokemon with the "sticky hold" ability(a low lever Grimer is probably best), in the other game
Step 1: Set up a team where the first pokemon has the "Sticky hold" ability, and an item. (preferably a very low level one as it needs to get KOed by covet for the glitch to work, I used a L13 Grimer)
Step 2: double check to make sure you have a secret base setup somewhere the second game can access it.
Step 3: record swap so that the second game can battle against the team including Grimer.
Step 4: KO the Grimer with covet.

When it faints another pokemon will appear on the screen, but the game will still draw the Grimer sprite on top of it using the pallette from the pokemon that is actually battling. the Grimer sprite will remain in place until you switch to something other than the battle screen. - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Marhawkman}} ([[User talk:Marhawkman|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Marhawkman|contribs]]) ''
:Proof or no cookie. Upload to Youtube or something. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 21:17, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::-_-' I guess I could upload some digital camera pics to flickr.--[[User:Marhawkman|Marhawkman]] 01:46, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:::http://www.flickr.com/photos/11951562@N08/ You may now [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degeneration_X#Suck_it.21 Suck it!] :p no it is not possible for me to do a video upload.--[[User:Marhawkman|Marhawkman]] 01:05, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Nice. If you can get that written more encyclopedically and if anyone can figure out why this happens, I have no problem with inclusion. [http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/super_mario_cookie.jpg All yours :D] — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:20, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

== Graphical glitch? ==

Well, I was playing Pokémon Platinum, and when I was in the 2nd floor of the Ribbon Syndicate and I saw a graphical glitch. I was standing diagnol to the Poké statue on the right, and if I walked down once, the wall on the right Merged into the floor. This was on a DSi. Worth mentioning? I'm going to add it anyway for now, I'll try not to start a war.... --[[User:Cat2killer|CAT2 A.K.A Cat2killer]] 00:23, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
:It sometimes happens with the 3D engine. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:40, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
::Thats what I was thinking... I added it, but I can delete it, O powereful 'chidna --'''[[User:Cat2killer|Catu]] [[User talk:Cat2killer|the Cat]]''' 22:14, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

==Fishing==
I just encountered a weird graphical glitch in DP. You can fish on the tiles with swimmers on them. It doesn't matter if they move around or not. But, since it's so pointless, I don't know if it should be added.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 23:30, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Is there anywhere that says about that glitch in RBY where if you use cut and turn the game off the tree comes back on top of you? If so, this glitch should be in the same place. [[User:Mattiuscn|Mattiuscn]] 17:09, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

: Gou: I don't think that's a glitch at all - the game is coded to allow fishing if there's a water tile directly infront of the player. I don't think it's supposed to matter if there's something else on the tile as well. Ignoring real-world principles of personal space invasion, it's perfectly possible that the player is fishing very close to the swimmer. Mattiuscn: It's under [[Glitch#Pokémon_Red_and_Blue|Minor Glitches]] for Pokémon Red and Blue - look for the bullet point Cut Glitch. --[[User:Raylax|Raylax]] 20:09, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

==Dratini Glitch==

I just tried the Dratini Glitch on my Gold. The message wasn't permanate. I pressed the A button and it went away. I don't know why.[[User:Pokemon champ|Pokemon champ]] 05:53, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

: Never mind I misread it. I thought it meant that it would be stuck at that screen but I read it more closely.[[User:Pokemon champ|Pokemon champ]] 08:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

==Fly + Brave Bird Glitch==

I found this out by accident but a Pokémon uses {{m|Fly}}, and then your partner uses {{m|Brave Bird}}, at the end of Brave Bird, even though your partner is in the air, the Pokémon usinf Fly can be seen for a short while. It's an error not a glitch as much but is it enough to take not of?--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 01:18, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Glitches, errors, and bugs are basically the same thing. Yes I would say it is notable :) --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 13:08, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

== Pal Park Glitch 'Mon? ==

What happens if a Glitch Pokémon from the 3rd generation is transferred via Pal Park to 4th gen? Is it transformed into a legitimate species, or does it remain a glitch? Or does the 4th gen title detect it and refuse transfer? --[[User:Raylax|Raylax]] 13:20, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

It theoretically would turn into a 4th generation Pokemon if you decided to transfer a Pokemon with an index number over 386 but below 494 however on all cases the game gives a short message and refuses you from transferring it. I tried transferring a Unown with a safari ball, it wouldn't let me but as soon as I took it off the Unown I could transfer it. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 13:12, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

== Lv100 cheat ==

Any proof for this? Seems to me like a random fake cheat. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 08:18, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
:Me too, but there are various videos on Youtube. I'm not an expert, though. Apparently it can be done in more places than just Viridian Forest. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:50, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

No, this is true! Basically you perform the method 3 of the mew trick. The mew/other pokemon usually appears at level 7 but if you use growl six times on the enemy pokemon it will make the pokemon you encounter level 1 (because the byte depends on how many boosts/drops the attack stat has gained, it begins at 7 and goes up to 13 or down to 1)

After obtaining a level 1 mew or a third stage evolution Pokemon there is a bug in the algorithm where the game presumes there is a negative number of experience to level 2 (displayed as a very large number). Therefore upon levelling that pokemon it will skip to level 100. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 13:16, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

I just tested, and it DOES work in the US version of Yellow. However, it does NOT work in Red/Blue because none of the trainers in Viridian Forest (or anywhere before Cerulean for that matter) challenge you just as they appear on the edge of the screen. I also changed the "Growl level-1 times" to "Growl 6 times." For me, using Growl level-1 times always resulted in level 4 or 5 Pokémon, which don't jump to 100. Meeting Pidgeys and Rattatas (and always Growling 6 times) gave me level 1 Voltorbs and Nidokings, respectively.

Since it's a relatively complex glitch, and hard to follow along reading the long paragraph of instructions, it might do better as a numbered step-by-step list. --[[User:Chupi|Chupi]] 09:18, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
:The Rocket in Mt. Moon (Red/Blue) who says "we're pulling a big job here" works. However, you'll either need to beat a trainer afterward (as in the Mew glitch), or use the Brock skip glitch so you can still use the guy who walks you to Pewter Gym. --[[User:Chupi|Chupi]] 22:58, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, growl 6 times. You also have to get a very low amount of exp to get from level 1 to level 100 though. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 23:59, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

== Raikiou Glitch ==

Back when i played crystal, i had this Raikiou. It was fine for about a year but then everytime i sent it into a battle the screen would fill with question marks and it would be really difficult to be able to do anything, but if i attacked the screen would return to normal and my raikiou would be invincible for three battles (damage was instantly healed) and all its attacks were one hit k.o.s then after three battles the game would freeze. i have since restarted my crystal to replay it because of HG and SS so i cant get any pictures, but this really did happen. i'm not sure why but the raikiou was named either ?, ??? or a full name bar of ?s. did anyone else ever experience this? {{unsigned|The hugarh}}

== F8 Glitch ==
While messing with the memory address of pokemon blue, I have came across another error message, ERROR 7, I don't know if this is important or not, I just wanted to make mention here. --[[User:Chibiace|Chibiace]] 23:01, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
:You can add that to the table (or I could do it for you) if you know what the error was caused by. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:59, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
::I'll see if my exploits in corrupting Pokémon red and blue come up with any more error codes, though I am not sure if there is anymore (I think I remember another error, but it may be error 48, but I am sure it came up during a glitch city exploration, hopefully I still can get it to come up.) [[User:Chibiace|Chibiace]] 00:22, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
:::If the error numbers go up to 48 then I'm assuming there are at least that many. Let me know if you find any more :) [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:21, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

==Black Belt Gibberish==
''Black Belt Gibberish: For unknown reasons, a certain Black Belt in Sinnoh's Victory Road may speak glitchy gibberish upon defeat. The users who discovered this both chose Chimchar as their starter and nicknamed it. ''
:I totally got this today, but my starter was an unnicknamed Turtwig. Significance? [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:59, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

It's a shame there aren't any pictures yet. Are you able to reproduce the glitch? [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 02:49, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:I'll try and see if I can use the Vs. Seeker to re-fight this guy. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:16, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

I had this glitch on my game with a female nicknamed empoleon, Maybe the gender has something to do with it? --[[User:MayaTheEmpoleon|MayaTheEmpoleon]] 15:44, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
:No, I discovered it, and my starter is male. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 04:53, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Next time if you get it again please get a picture of it if you can for reference (not that I don't believe you). Are you able to reproduce it? [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 05:01, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
:Yes I can. I turned off the power after I beat him, so I'll fight him again. I don't know how to take screenshots, though. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 20:15, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Use a camera? lol [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 04:04, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

==Emerald and reliable cloning==
It's possible that the sentence describing Gen II as having the most reliable cloning glitch is very old, maybe even pre-dating the discovery of the Emerald glitch. Nonetheless, I'd have to rank Emerald's as being the most reliable cloning glitch in the history of the games, in that it doesn't require any sense of timing whatsoever, making it nigh-impossible to mess up. Thoughts? [[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]] 15:04, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I thought the same on that. --[[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 02:48, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

== Teru-sama ==

I have a Monster Brain which shows the GS Ball in Crystal (English version). I have tried that and the Teru-sama in the corresponding slot of Gold (English version) and neither work. Wikipedia has stated that the GS Ball will ''never'' work in the English version of Crystal because the routines required for the event were left out of all non-Japanese language versions. Unfortunately, they have watered-down their Pokémon entries so much they only state that it cannot be caught, but not why. I have just confirmed this one last time. What do the hackers hack? ROMs? If it only works in ROMs, say so. ROMs should not count anyway. [[User:White Phoenix|White Phoenix]] 07:11, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

The Pokémon Communication Center stuff was removed, and that's where the GS Ball was available from in Japan. However most of the rest of it remains. I've used a GameShark code to obtain the GS Ball, then another one to get Kurt to take it. The next day, he gives it back to you, and you can take it to the shrine in Ilex Forest and catch a Celebi.

The Communication Center was removed because it required the GBC to be connected to a smart phone, which weren't so common with kids in the US in 2001. The one-time event that gave you the GS Ball in Japan also activated Kurt accepting the ball, hence the requirement of 2 GameShark codes. The only routines that were removed were in the Comm Center. --[[User:Chupi|Chupi]] 05:15, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

== Box Trick and Other Missing Glitches ==

Shouldn’t the box trick from the first two generations be included? It doesn’t seem that the programmers intended the stats to be manipulated, only recreated to avoid storing the stats for each pokémon in the boxes.

I have a list of glitches, tips and tricks that I have collected. Here is a list of the confirmed glitches not listed in this article and the sources if I had them. (When I first started collecting I didn’t write down the source.) Some of these were extremely long, so I edited them. Details available upon request.

Mew
Source: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (en.wikipedia.org) [I cannot find the paragraph now. It was either moved or deleted.]
It is also possible to get a mew in the Pokémon game, without intending to capture one. In several instances, in the trade center of a PokéCenter, trades have glitched and a mew was spawned from the chaos, as well as a pidgeot. In five instances, a machoke was traded for a graveler, and five times, a mew and a pidgeot were spawned. The graveler and machoke were deleted however.
[Note that the glitch is that two pokémon were downloaded instead of one.]

Alternate Pokémon Colors [The precursors of shiny pokémon? –Editor] (Stadium)
If you nickname your pokémon in the Game Boy game and bring it into Stadium, it will have changed color depending on what you nicknamed it! Possibilities range from an orange pikachu to a sea green tentacruel.

These are not shiny pokémon, because shiny pokémon were not invented when Stadium was released. [However, it may have given Nintendo ideas to do it deliberately. –Editor]

Mew Warning (Stadium) (unconfirmed, but worth noting in case it is true)
Do not trade a mew level 10 or higher in the trading mode in Stadium. It will glitch the game, and if you want your data back, you must call Nintendo (1-800-225-3700) to fix it.

Cloning Items
While cloning pokémon from Generation 2 and later, the items the pokémon are holding are cloned as well. If the user is interested in cloning items only, they would use useless/common pokémon like pidgeys, rattatas or weedles.

Easy Gifts and Battles
Obtain several phone numbers, then go to your house and tell your mom to switch on or off daylight savings. Your phone friends will give you calls almost immediately, and you will get to fight them or receive gifts.

Unlimited Mystery Gifts
This occurs since the programmers did not foresee a problem. The user capitalizes on the resetting of the clock to trick the game into allowing mystery gift trades more frequently than once a day per friend.

[[User:White Phoenix|White Phoenix]] 08:43, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

==56 ERROR==
I found a sixth error, I can reproduce this by using the Ditto Trick on my Pokémon Blue cartridge to fight a trainer (eg Blaine), and defeating their Pokémon. Instead of the text for winning it quickly displays 56 ERROR and then gives you your winnings. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 02:57, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I should have explained more fully.
The Ditto trick is a variation of the Mew Glitch which is performed simliarly.
First, fly away from the trainer, as in the Mew glitch.
Second, battle any trainer, making sure they have to walk to you.
However the next part is different.
You must now get a pokemon with a certain special stat. Each possible special stat up to 255 (after which it rolls over, 256 = 0, 257 = 1 etc.) corresponds to a different pokémon or possibly even a trainer (very high numbers) depending on it's hexadecimal value. Have that pokemon in your first party slot.
Now find a wild Ditto. Use an item such as X accuracy or X speed so that ditto will transform into your Pokémon.
After Ditto has transformed, defeat it normally.
DO NOT GET INTO ANY BATTLES AFTER.
Then, go to the spot where you would normally be getting Mew to appear.
The start menu pops up as normal and when you exit, battle will resume.
This glitch can be used to find glitch pokemon and trainers. Trainers may not have their usual pokémon, for example Bruno could have Blaine's team.
I hope this helped.
[[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 22:28, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

== Fire Spin Glitch ==

I found information about a Generation I Fire spin glitch that occurs in link battles. It is complicated but you can find information about it on the gltich city labs forums. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 03:00, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

== Small, Random Glitch Pokemon ==

While messing around with the 'make any pokemon appear' code on a gameboy color game, I discovered that by putting in random, two-digit letters and numbers (ex. hex code is: 01xx1ED1. xx=LETTERNUMBER, such as E4 or 4E), several similar glitch pokemon appear. The glitch pokemon have the name of one pokemon, but the sprite of another. They sometimes make the letters glitchy and when you press 'a' to read more text or when any pokemon in the battle attacks, several random sounds begin playing.

Just a small discovery I made. Is it worth mentioning anywhere? Or is the method to actually see these glitch pokemon too random and unpredictabe? --[[User:Ame|雨]] 23:06, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Which game? Anyway sounds interesting and I'm sure it oculd be incorporated into the article if we knew what generation section to put it in. Was Gameboy color meaning gold, silver, crystal, red blue or yellow? [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 03:28, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
:If it was Gold/Silver/Crystal then possibly, but if it was Red/Blue/Yellow then no. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|Snorlax]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|Monster]] 05:17, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

The game was red/blue. I'll try and find some pictures.--[[User:Ame|雨]] 12:19, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
:I thought current policy was not to include glitch Pokémon that are only available through modifying the game data. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 13:14, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

If that's so, Andy, I'm sorry, I didn't know. But that would make sense, I wondered about that too. --[[User:Ame|雨]] 21:21, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry Andy, I thought that was for creating articles.. silly me. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 22:43, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

::::: Are you serious!? If so then WHY do we have DPhybrids on our glitch pokemon list?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 15:28, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

== R/B Errors ==

This section is so wrong I don't know where to begin. The screenshot of the "59 error" clearly shows "5 ERROR" (i.e. code 5), just with some random crap before it. The table even says the two are the same, just with 59 having crap before it.

This doesn't make a lick of sense:
:Mixed errors usually generated when the game mixes three or more errors, and instead of using standard error codes, the game looks in the other character folders and may use letters or other symbols for the error code. This may crash or freeze the game.
Folders? There are no folders. Perhaps they meant to say the game displays gibberish in place of an error message, or doesn't correctly load the text graphics first? I've never seen such a case. [[User:HyperHacker|HyperHacker]] 03:33, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

== Firered/Leafgreen Suicune (Minor) Glitch ==

Evidently all Suicune from said games have extremely low (though legal) iv stats. I noticed that they were all at zero or single digit values after catching it a number of times. And yes, I did make sure that I was catching it without a previous encounter (in which presumably the IV's would have been fixed). A google search indicates that this is a known glitch. Is this significant enough for inclusion?--[[User:Gsnipe|Gsnipe]] 04:07, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

The IV's for the three dogs are set when you start the game (Eg. if you wanted another IV set you would have to start a new game). This also goes for nature, shininess etc. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 05:16, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:I've played through FR twice and gotten improbably low IVs both times on Suicune. I'd still attribute this to bad luck if not for this thread at GameSpot: http://www.gamespot.com/ds/rpg/pokemondiamond/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-42723270&pid=925601
::Looks like there's a post about this on Smogon too. http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45644--[[User:Gsnipe|Gsnipe]] 15:24, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:::It's not just Suicune. See my [[Talk:Glitch#Glitched_IV.27s_for_Roaming_Legendaries.3F|answer below]] for more info. ~ [[User:HackMew|HackMew]] 15:14, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

== Egg Hatching Glitch ==
I just encountered a somewhat odd glitch. I traded over a Shinx egg from my Pearl to my Platinum to hatch it. I had already hatched it on my Pearl (without saving) so I knew how many steps it would take to hatch it, roughly. It was a lot. Yet, I went downstairs and outside and within two to three more steps (19 total steps), it hatched. I reset and put the Egg in the PC and withdrew it, it had the correct steps to hatch. If anyone asks, yes I can repeat the glitch. No, I do not use an AR or any cheating devices.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 19:29, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
:More on it. Apparently, withdrawing it from the same PC doesn't work for some reason. To get the right steps, I had to withdraw it from another PC or leave the map and come back. Go figure.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 19:32, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
::Did you have any Pokémon with {{a|Magma Armor}} or {{a|Flame Body}} in either of your parties? If not, it may not even be a glitch, but an Easter egg (no pun intended), so that traded eggs hatch faster. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 01:23, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:::...I use that all the time. But, no. I had just restarted my Platinum, so all that was in my party was my Turtwig. And I also didn't have one at the time in my Pearl game. Also, it wasn't half the steps. It hatched after 19 steps compared to the normal roughly 100 steps. And I've traded enough eggs to know that it doesn't affect hatch steps.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 04:33, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

It's normal. The egg rilies on a counter that is lowered every time a certain number of steps is done. When the counter reaches 0, egg hatches. Different Pokémon have different starting numbers (That's why Magikarp hatches fast whereas say Chimchar doesn't).

When you do a soft reset I would say that the number of steps required to lower the counter is reset to max. That's why the first time it took only 19 steps.

I hope this helps. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 06:44, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:If that was the problem, then it would have been reset to max after trading. It also would've hatched after 19 steps ''on my Pearl version'', which it didn't.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 17:53, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

==Platinum, Poké Ball, Blue?==
On my Platinum version, a normal Poké Ball works really well on Pokémon that are mostly colored blue. I caught Dialga at lv. 70 witha regular Poké Ball. I caught Azelf and Regice with one as well. Granyed, I have the earliest release of Platinum in the US, but why does this happen? ~ [[User:L.S.B.|L.S.B.]]

:Just a coincidence for you. Poké Balls do not work better on blue Pokémon. [[User:Tyro|Tyro]] 18:45, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

== Glitched IV's for Roaming Legendaries? ==

So, after Playing through FireRed a couple times and noticing that Suicune's IV's were abnormally low (as in, 0's in 4 stats and single digit for the rest), I tried grabbing a Raikou. It had abysmal IV's as well. Then I noticed a Latias I caught from Sapphire had IV's that were just like the Beasts, with 4-5 zeros. Google has turned up a few discussion board posts claiming that all Roaming Legendaries in the third generation games have the same problem, with the exception of Emerald. But beyond that I haven't found anything solid. Can anyone clear this up? {{unsigned|Gsnipe}}

I'm pretty sure because of the way those game works some IV sets are not possible for legendary Pokémon, when combined with other things such as a nature you want, you most likely will get lower IV's. This is not exactly a glitch, it is just the game's psuedo-random number generators are terrible in Gen III. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 03:10, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
:Nope... it's possible to get good natures/IVs on Gen III, just like any other game. However, FRLG has a particular error in the coding that prevents the roaming beasts from having any IVs over like... uuuuuh 11 or so? Something like that. I think it should be added, personally... ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 03:26, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
:: Well, the glitch affects all roaming legendaries in all 3rd gen. games except Emerald where it got fixed. This means Latios in Ruby, Latias in Sapphire and Raikou/Entei/Suicune in FR/LG. The glitched IVs are the result of a buggy code: only 8 out of 30 bits will be saved in the wild data upon meeting the Pokémon. This means only the HP IV will be stored correctly along with the first 3 bits of the Attack stat. The rest will be set to 0. While the IVs are stored the wrong way, the IVs are still stored correctly into a special, reserved RAM area. This means with a bit of effort and patience, one could theorically recover the proper IVs and manually fix his/her roaming Pokémon. If anyone needs more technical data, feel free to ask. ~ [[User:HackMew|HackMew]] 15:09, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

==Poké Ball spin glitch==
I came across [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avm0J5Hy8vQ&feature=related this] by accident. Someone already mentioned it, and I hid it until proven. Does this prove it? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:40, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

==List of glitches==
I dislike it. It also means that it has to be updated every time anything is added to [[list of minor glitches]]. I suggest that either we make '''list of minor glitches''' into '''list of glitches''' and just link to that from here, or remove the minor glitches section and direct reads to list of minor glitches. Thoughts? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:46, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

==My post==
I just noticed my Post on a glitch was deleted when I actually had proof that it exists. Why was this? [[User:Lunyka|Lunyka]] 05:10, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

And someone moved it down here, Well I hope it isn't spam being down here but I posted about the 731 glitch and some proof that it might actually exist and it just disappeared. {{unsigned|Lunyka}}
:I moved it down here because that's how talk pages work here. New comments/subjects go to the bottom. And it disappeared because someone deleted it, because they probably considered it to be fake and spam.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 05:59, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
::I read what you linked to, it seems pretty fake, and even if it's not, then it's not a glitch, so it's irrelevant here. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:11, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

== greenman ==

I used an action replay code and now the Green Man wont leave the Pokemart when i talk to him he says oops and wont go away. {{unsigned|Charizard106042}}

1. Cheating isn't notable 
2. Go and ask someone on the forums --> [http://bgmf.bulbagarden.net]

Thanks, [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 03:37, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

== Infinate Money Glitch ==

Um I think I found a glitch on Heartgold that gives you infinite money I dunno if a glitch like that was already know of. I couldn't find one reading through bulbapedia but I don't really know a lot about computers etc (evidently)so I was just wondering if everyone already knew about it [[User:Sugerfreek|Sugerfreek]] 09:56, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
:How do you trigger the glitch? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:04, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

:ok this is the detail i remember I was breeding Eevee so I put like a level 21 Espeon and a level 27 Ditto (may be slightly different) in the care centre below goldenrod. I then went to goldenrod cycled about the man called me I went and collected the egg. Then I went back to cycle in goldenrod (my team was a level 89 Pidgeot and level 1 Togepi if that is relevant) the guy was taking a while to call and sometimes if you go back to the day care man before he rings he has the egg anyway. So I cycled back and once I was next to him he rang me saying he had my egg. I answered the call and following the call I accidently called my mum. I was pressing b to shut her up when she told me I had 8888888 saved and if I wanted to start saving again (but I have never saved money) I said no. Collected the next egg and flew home where my mum did have the money I withdrew some and then went to the shop and it let me buy thing with no bad side effects. The game didn't crash and the eggs hatched normally. I dunno what causes glitches so I dunno what information is relevant or not. hope that helps. [[User:Sugerfreek|Sugerfreek]] 15:51, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
::The information you have given me (other than that it was 8888888) doesn't seem helpful. Have you ever used any kind of cheating device, or tried a glitch such as [[tweaking]]? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:57, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

:hahaha no I'm crap with technology the game is quite old though it has almost 200 hours racked up on it. Do you think it was just because the cart was really old? I'm just playing it on my normal ds lite [[User:Sugerfreek|Sugerfreek]] 15:59, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
::200 hours isn't that old... (but I think it's more than my SS). Anyway, it ''could'' be caused by a dirty cartridge/game, but that is unlikely. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 16:02, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

:anyway I don't know anything about hacking glitches why they occur etc...... so I thought I would tell someone that might know something about it so that if it was of relevance people could maybe look into it I dunno what steps of the glitch were relevant or not. So hopefully someone will look into it or whatever [[User:Sugerfreek|Sugerfreek]] 16:07, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

::Have you put magnets near your game? The fact that it was "888888" seems to have all the relevant bytes written the same.... [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 21:47, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

:Not as far as I'm aware I travel a lot and sometimes I will just keep the game in my handbag which is near my phone I dunno if that does anything. Just thought my Pidgeot was holding an amulet coin (I dunno if that is relevant) [[User:Sugerfreek|Sugerfreek]] 16:56, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

::Perhaps there is a chance that recieving messages could have done it... I'm not really sure on this one though [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 21:31, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

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2010-11-25T18:39:04Z

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== Glitch pokemon ==

Will anyone update Gen:V glitch pokemon list?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 18:39, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

== Signing posts ==
Hi, when posting something on a talk page you should sign your post with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, that way your name and the time of the post will automatically be added. This helps users know who said what and when. [[User:Pikiwyn|'''''Pikiwyn''''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 21:29, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Celibi25: I can't find it on the keyboard.
:At the top of the edit box there are different things you can click on, if you click the second last one that looks like a signature it will put it in for you :)[[User:Pikiwyn|'''''Pikiwyn''''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 16:47, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
::Also at the bottom of the edit box it has a Character palette that has a bunch of symbols you can click on it's on there too. [[User:Pikiwyn|'''''Pikiwyn''''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 16:48, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Like this?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 16:49, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

::The keyboards I've used have had it either to the left of the enter button or to the left of the 1 button. Even if your keyboard does not have a ~ button, in the Character palette below every edit box you should see <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> listed, click on it and it'll insert <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> whereever your cursor was. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 16:50, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
:::With my keyboard its also the button to the left of the 1 and to make it you have to hold shift in. I know there's a pic of the signature button which I'm looking for now, that would help alot.[[User:Pikiwyn|'''''Pikiwyn''''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 16:53, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Got it.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 16:53, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
:That's it, also when replying to a post start with this <nowiki>:</nowiki> it helps with readability. [[User:Pikiwyn|'''''Pikiwyn''''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 16:54, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
:Like this?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 16:55, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, but if you reply to someone who already has used one "<nowiki>:</nowiki>" you would use two--> "<nowiki>::</nowiki>" then three--> "<nowiki>:::</nowiki>" and so on. You'd reply to my comment with three. For more help please use the links in the welcome template at the top.^^ --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 17:03, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

== Preview button ==

I've mentioned this before, but I'll say it again. Please use the '''preview button''' before you save your edit. You made tons of edits to Charizard's page just for some trivia, which is really unnecessary. Don't for get to sign all your talk page comments using <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 22:02, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
: I had a really hard time remembering [[( I']]'s name.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 16:59, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

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Like that? --[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 16:51, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 16:58, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Celibi25

2010-11-20T16:59:20Z

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== Glitch pokemon ==

Celibi25

Will anyone update Gen:V glitch pokemon list?

== Signing posts ==
Hi, when posting something on a talk page you should sign your post with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, that way your name and the time of the post will automatically be added. This helps users know who said what and when. [[User:Pikiwyn|'''''Pikiwyn''''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 21:29, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Celibi25: I can't find it on the keyboard.
:At the top of the edit box there are different things you can click on, if you click the second last one that looks like a signature it will put it in for you :)[[User:Pikiwyn|'''''Pikiwyn''''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 16:47, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
::Also at the bottom of the edit box it has a Character palette that has a bunch of symbols you can click on it's on there too. [[User:Pikiwyn|'''''Pikiwyn''''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 16:48, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Like this?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 16:49, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

::The keyboards I've used have had it either to the left of the enter button or to the left of the 1 button. Even if your keyboard does not have a ~ button, in the Character palette below every edit box you should see <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> listed, click on it and it'll insert <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> whereever your cursor was. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 16:50, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
:::With my keyboard its also the button to the left of the 1 and to make it you have to hold shift in. I know there's a pic of the signature button which I'm looking for now, that would help alot.[[User:Pikiwyn|'''''Pikiwyn''''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 16:53, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Got it.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 16:53, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
:That's it, also when replying to a post start with this <nowiki>:</nowiki> it helps with readability. [[User:Pikiwyn|'''''Pikiwyn''''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 16:54, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
:Like this?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 16:55, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

== Preview button ==

I've mentioned this before, but I'll say it again. Please use the '''preview button''' before you save your edit. You made tons of edits to Charizard's page just for some trivia, which is really unnecessary. Don't for get to sign all your talk page comments using <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 22:02, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
: I had a really hard time remembering [[( I']]'s name.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 16:59, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

== Signature ==

When you leave a comment on a talk page, please do not write <tt>Celibi25: comment here</tt>, instead write <tt><nowiki>comment here ~~~~</nowiki></tt>. That way, it gives a link to your userpage, but more importantly, a timestamp. Thanks! [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 10:20, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 16:51, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Like that?

Yes. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 16:58, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Celibi25

2010-11-20T16:56:33Z

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== Glitch pokemon ==

Celibi25

Will anyone update Gen:V glitch pokemon list?

== Signing posts ==
Hi, when posting something on a talk page you should sign your post with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, that way your name and the time of the post will automatically be added. This helps users know who said what and when. [[User:Pikiwyn|'''''Pikiwyn''''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 21:29, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Celibi25: I can't find it on the keyboard.
:At the top of the edit box there are different things you can click on, if you click the second last one that looks like a signature it will put it in for you :)[[User:Pikiwyn|'''''Pikiwyn''''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 16:47, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
::Also at the bottom of the edit box it has a Character palette that has a bunch of symbols you can click on it's on there too. [[User:Pikiwyn|'''''Pikiwyn''''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 16:48, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Like this?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 16:49, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

::The keyboards I've used have had it either to the left of the enter button or to the left of the 1 button. Even if your keyboard does not have a ~ button, in the Character palette below every edit box you should see <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> listed, click on it and it'll insert <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> whereever your cursor was. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 16:50, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
:::With my keyboard its also the button to the left of the 1 and to make it you have to hold shift in. I know there's a pic of the signature button which I'm looking for now, that would help alot.[[User:Pikiwyn|'''''Pikiwyn''''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 16:53, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Got it.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 16:53, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
:That's it, also when replying to a post start with this <nowiki>:</nowiki> it helps with readability. [[User:Pikiwyn|'''''Pikiwyn''''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 16:54, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
:Like this?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 16:55, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

== Preview button ==

I've mentioned this before, but I'll say it again. Please use the '''preview button''' before you save your edit. You made tons of edits to Charizard's page just for some trivia, which is really unnecessary. Don't for get to sign all your talk page comments using <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 22:02, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

== Signature ==

When you leave a comment on a talk page, please do not write <tt>Celibi25: comment here</tt>, instead write <tt><nowiki>comment here ~~~~</nowiki></tt>. That way, it gives a link to your userpage, but more importantly, a timestamp. Thanks! [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 10:20, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 16:51, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Like that?