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2017-03-17T17:30:41Z

Cela08: /* Glitch Pokemon Sprites */ new section

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==Previous discussions==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10|Archive 10]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 11|Archive 11]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 12|Archive 12]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 13|Archive 13]]

== Forum Links ==

I've noticed that the forums moved to a new address and because of that, the links to the old forums on the bottom of many pages don't work and clicking on it just leads to the message that says the address was changed to the current one. Shouldn't we fix this and is there anyway that I can help with this? --[[User:Willyh106|Willyh106]] ''([[User talk:Willyh106|Talk]])’’ 14:23, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
:Could you give some examples? We've updated several templates, but it's possible there are some we missed. Also, if there are a group of pages with manual links, it would be useful to know so we can organize for them to be relinked en-mass. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 16:23, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
::One example I just thought of was the "May Club" link on [[May (anime)|this page]]. It is an old, closed thread, but it worked fine and I was able to look at it without any problems before the forum changed its address. I think I saw more and some more examples I can think of are links like the "Rules" link at the [[Bulbagarden forums]] page itself and also the link to the "AdvanceShipping Nation" on the [[AdvanceShipping]] page too. I think that even if it is a tedious task, if we change all the old BMGf links to the current ones, people will have a more pleasant experience with gathering more info and we'll be able to avoid some possible confusion. Thank you for considering my suggestion. --[[User:Willyh106|Willyh106]] ''([[User talk:Willyh106|Talk]])’’ 17:05, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

== McAfee ==

Whenever I visit the [[Crasher Wake]] page, McAfee gives me a warning that a malicious site is ahead.
No matter how many times I try again, it keeps blocking me. Just the Crasher Wake page, somehow.
Is there anyone who can explain why and tell me if the owner(s) of Bulbapedia can fix it?{{unsigned|Kyleallt}}
:For issues with the site, it's best you use the forums. Specifically, [http://forums.bulbagarden.net/index.php?threads/bulbawiki-site-issues-thread.39109/ this thread].--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:03, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

== I'm sorry ==

I've just made my account recently and I am so hyped at the idea of contributing to the wiki. I have been most of the time wrong with my edits, additions or any other things. I just wanted to say that I was sorry and that I am just trying to help. I mean no harm to the website or anyone here, you are all awesome! Keep it up! [[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 02:20, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
:It's common for users who are starting out to not do well on their first try. I'm pretty sure that you'll get the hang of things after contributing here for awhile. :) [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 02:23, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

== Need help from a french-native? ==

As the title says, French is my maternal language, so if you guys ever need help for translating or understanding things from French. Let me know! :) [[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 19:01, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

== Unidentified CD ==

Hey guys, I was looking st my Pokémon collection to see if there was anything to add to the wiki, and I found a CD which apparently has no name. It's a Gold and Silver CDROM which includes movies trailers, soundtracks, wallpapers and etc. I have searched in the CD section, and I haven't found it. Any help? [[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 18:38, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
:Is there something on the disc/case? [[User:Glik|glik]][[User talk:Glik|glak]] 19:02, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
::Appears to be a [http://www.gamespot.com/articles/new-pokmon-promotion/1100-2618846/ pre-order bonus]. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 19:02, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

:::Glik: it doesn't have a disc case, it's a CD sealed on a piece of "cardboard".
:::Abcboy: that seems to be exactly what it is! :o [[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 19:06, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

== Underleveled Pokémon ==

The recent addition from The Hidden Ninja about his lvl 4 Kakuna gave me an idea! :O
What about we create a page that regroups a list of every underleveled Pokémon ever found in the games? That is a pretty interesting thing to me. Knowing that a Pokémon evolves at Lvl X but was seen already evolved at level X - Y is pretty interesting, indeed. What do you guys think? [[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 19:45, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
:See [[User:Spriteit/Underleveled_Pokémon]] or [[User:Super_goku/Sandbox/Underleveled_Table]].--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:39, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

== Massive and enraging grammar issue! ==

I've been editing anime and manga plots tonight, and most of my edits were undone because ''"they contained more grammar mistakes than before."''

Hear me out, when you are talking about a group of person, the subject is 3rd person singular.

Examples:

*Team Rocket ''is'' (NOT ARE) tired. ''It'' (NOT THEY) must rest a bit.
*The group ''searches'' (NOT SEARCH) for a place where ''it'' (NOT THEY) can stay the night.
*Team Rocket ''bumps'' (NOT BUMP) into Red.

Then, as far as I know, it's not the Trainer who uses a move, but the Pokémon itself.

Examples:

*Red sends out Poliwhirl and ''makes him use'' (NOT USES) Water Gun.

Having my hard-worked edits reverted when I know for a fact that I am right, made me legit mad.

I just want to help, so next time, can you either look up why I did this, or just ask me before you undo it all? Thanks. [[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 06:54, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
:To be frank, expressing your anger like this won't earn you any points. You're welcome to debate the merits of your edits, but try to keep a bit more of a level head about it.
:That said, in most particular, the main page talk page really is not a very appropriate place to raise the question of your personal edits. Use the talk page for a page you were reverted on or use the other person's talk page.
:And I think I'll leave it there. If this is brought up in a more appropriate place, I'd be glad to comment as well as I can. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:18, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

::Me being "mad" (I wasn't really, it was just to illustrate my feeling of demotivation) is not the point I want to talk about, neither is my personal edits. The point is to inform editors about this important yet basic rule of english. The fact that (my) edits got deleted for this reason is just unexplainable. I wrote this on the main page to inform as much people as possible about this so that future edits can be better with a better level of english. [[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 07:27, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
:::That's partially opinion. And ''that'' should be hashed out in, again, a more appropriate place.
:::In short: give other people a chance to explain themselves before running off entirely on your own assumptions. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:32, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Grammar such as -Team Rocket ''is'' (NOT ARE) tired. ''It'' (NOT THEY) must rest a bit.-, while technically not incorrect, is highly unnatural. In normal English, when talking about a group of people and their actions, we tend to refer to the people within that group instead of the group as a singular.
-They search- is far more natural than "It searches", as in this case we are referring to a concrete action carried out by the members of the group, and not the group distinct from said members.
Any writing style guide will tell you not to say "it" when referring to a small or undefined group.
With regards to the trainer "using" techniques, either would be acceptable. This is simply a case of whether one wishes to emphasise the will of the trainer or not.--[[User:Montegue|Montegue]] ([[User talk:Montegue|talk]]) 16:10, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

== Generation 7 ==

I just heard two new Pokémon games, Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon, have been confirmed by Nitendo. This will probably be Generation 7, should there be something on Bulbapedia already? [[User:Danny199|Danny199]] ([[User talk:Danny199|talk]]) 17:44, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
:We already have this information: [[Pokémon Sun and Moon]] and [[Generation VII]]. --[[User:Carmenstar97|Carmen★]] ''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|(Talk |]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|contribs)]]'' 17:47, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

==Spanish?==

I know that we have a Italian page, but can we add a Spanish? There's a lot of people that speak it, and I think we'd need it.
Honestly, I don't know if you guys will accept this, but I have a lot of friends that speak Spanish and like Pokemon. It's just my opinion, and honestly I think it would we easy to translate.
Anyway, please think about it and give me reason why/ why not to have it, thanks!
[[User:Thorite Gem|Thorite Gem]] ([[User talk:Thorite Gem|talk]]) 22:06, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
:[[Pokéteca|We did]] but they went under as an independent wiki, and came back as a [http://es.poketeca.wikia.com/wiki/Wiki_Pok%C3%A9teca wikia]. The other language wikis, however, are not controlled or even maintained by us. We're just an [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis|alliance]]. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 23:43, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
::Ah ok, that makes much more sense. Thanks Arc! [[User:Thorite Gem|Thorite Gem]] ([[User talk:Thorite Gem|talk]]) 13:48, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

:::Hello! And what about the WikiDex? http://es.pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/WikiDex Regards! --[[User:Ryo567|Ryo567]] ([[User talk:Ryo567|talk]]) 16:33, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
::::[[WikiDex]] is hosted at wikia so no, but if they became independent then yes they could definitely become a member of [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis]]. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 16:39, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
:::::Ohh, okay! Thanks for your quick reply! :) [[User:Ryo567|Ryo567]] ([[User talk:Ryo567|talk]]) 16:43, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

== Pronounciation ==

Because Pokemon has officially revealed the pronounciations with the Deluxe Pokemon Handbook, could we put official pronounciation as a part of pages to calm down the rabid fanbase? {{unsigned|Theexploringgamer}}
:There are cases where different official sources have used differing pronunciations. That sort of problem is a big reason we're not likely to be putting pronunciations on Pokemon pages. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:23, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
::The reason I ask is because it's the MOST RECENT pronounciation that they've confirmed. The only change was Arceus, and they established why they changed that one. [[User:Theexploringgamer|Theexploringgamer]] ([[User talk:Theexploringgamer|talk]]) 14:09, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

== Improve for mobile users! ==

I use my iPad more than my laptop and the interface for the wiki seems fit for computers rather than mobile devices. That got me thinking, maybe you guys should try developing an app for mobile users! The editing and browsing could be easier! Just a suggestion.--[[User:Grass4Lyfe|Grass4Lyfe]] ([[User talk:Grass4Lyfe|talk]]) 06:35, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

== Set up donations ==

Bulbapedia, you need to set up some sort of donations button and put it on the sidebar of the site, to cut back on the sheer number of ads--any page I try to load takes up to 2 minutes to load and it lags out my computer. Other wikis like TFWiki.net have a donations bar, and in that case, anyone who really wants to support this site will donate to help keep it afloat--you can still keep ads to make an assured revenue, but cut it down severely. There's like 10 ads on a single page, that's crazy.

Please consider what I'm saying if you haven't already. If you do already have donations, please also put it on the sidebar. There is no shame in asking for donations to help this beautiful website. [[User:Titanollante|Titanollante]] ([[User talk:Titanollante|talk]]) 04:46, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
:If you have a Bulbapedia account and stay logged in, you won't see any ads. It's not a perfect solution, but it might help you if the staff don't follow your suggestion. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:13, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

== Type specific items ==

An idea for an area in the types page, for example Flame plate in the fire type.--Pokemonfansuper 13:33, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

== "?????" and other links redirecting to here ==

I've noticed that if I try to go to a page by editing the link, some "pages", like "?????" and "??????????" redirect here. Why does that happen? --[[User:Aaay|Aaay]] ''([[User talk:Aaay|TalK]])'' 07:53, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Actually, I think I might know what's happening: Having a question mark in the title of a page means that everything after the question mark is data that should be sent to the page. So, in this case, it's saying "go to the link http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/" (that is the main page) "and give the website the information ????", and that information is not used. {{unsigned|Aaay}}
:Yeah, that's what would be happening. However, this should only occur if you directly modify the URL; wiki links such as [[?????]] and [[??????????]] go to the correct pages. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:55, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

== What does this mean? ==

I found this:
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| style="text-align: center;" | <big>'''NOTICE!'''</big> If you were given a disruptive, disturbing, or not child-friendly ad, '''PLEASE DO NOT POST IT HERE!''' Instead, please go to [http://forums.bulbagarden.net/index.php?threads/bad-ad-reporting-thread.29680/ this thread] and follow the directions there!
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What does it mean? you can't find ads in the chat log!

Also, this is what it looks like in the code:

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| style="text-align: center;" | <big>'''NOTICE!'''</big> If you were given a disruptive, disturbing, or not child-friendly ad, '''PLEASE DO NOT POST IT HERE!''' Instead, please go to [http://forums.bulbagarden.net/index.php?threads/bad-ad-reporting-thread.29680/ this thread] and follow the directions there!
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[[User:PersonThatReallyLikesPokemon|PersonThatReallyLikesPokemon]] ([[User talk:PersonThatReallyLikesPokemon|talk]]) 17:36, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
:It means if you have a bad ad, don't post it here, post it in the forum thread linked in the template... Seems pretty self explanatory to me. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 17:43, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

:Yes but you're not supposed to post any ads here anyway. [[User:PersonThatReallyLikesPokemon|PersonThatReallyLikesPokemon]] ([[User talk:PersonThatReallyLikesPokemon|talk]]) 17:52, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
::Bulbapedia has adverts. If any adverts are bad, don't post about them here, post about them in the forum. It's pretty damn clear in the text what it's saying. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 20:00, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
:::It might be clear to you but not to others so try not to be rude about it. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 20:31, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
::::I turned AdBlock off but there are still no ads here. [[User:PersonThatReallyLikesPokemon|PersonThatReallyLikesPokemon]] ([[User talk:PersonThatReallyLikesPokemon|talk]]) 21:03, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::There won't be any unless you log off. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 21:24, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

== Final battle page ==

This is a kind of proposition for a page. I don't know whether it should be a page or not so I'm posting my idea here to see if it's okay or not.

My idea is to make a "Final battle" page, basically a page that details the battle required to enter the hall of fame/see the credits. I know this sounds a lot like the Champion page but my idea was it would be more gameplay-focused and it would have some different people.

It could have the teams of the champions, both the initial battle and if there is a rematch, the rematch team. For the Black and White section it would have Ghetsis for the initial battle and Alder for the rematch team. For Sun and Moon it would have Kukui for the initial teams and all the other possible position keeping teams for the rematch.

Is this an idea that would fit the wiki? Should I start making this? ----[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 18:02, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

== Twitch stream on front page ==

Does it need to be playing with sound on loading the page...? --[[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[Special:Contributions/Flicky|1991]] 19:03, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

==Trainer data structure in gen III ==

I am just checking if this post is allowed or not,

If its allowed then I will probably update it as I have the info about it. [[User:Bsantosh909|Bsantosh909]] ([[User talk:Bsantosh909|talk]]) 13:32, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

== Is it possible to add in new languages? ==

Im new to bulbapedia, and I want to edit something, and then I wondered if I could try to translate Bulbapedia into a new language?

[[User:Adrizz|Adrizz]] ([[User talk:Adrizz|talk]]) 20:05, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
:There are Pokemon wikis in other languages, as seen in the sidebar on the left. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 20:09, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

== Glitch Pokemon Sprites ==

I took a few screenshots of backsprites and Pokedex entries of glitch Pokemon that had either blurry or grayscale backsprites, but i'm not confirmed so I can't add them to the respective pages. Should I put them in a Dropbox link for someone who is confirmed to add, or...?? [[User:Cela08|Cela08]] ([[User talk:Cela08|talk]]) 17:30, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Special Episode

2015-08-09T19:05:41Z

Cela08: /* List of Special Episodes */ Removed some useless tidbits and improved the plot summary for Igglybuff the Prodigy. I'll work on the others later.

{{samename|special episodes in the anime|List of anime specials}}
'''Special Episodes''' (Japanese: '''スペシャルエピソード''' ''Special Episodes'') are extensions to the storyline of {{g|Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky}}. They take one or more characters that play an important role in the storyline and expand on their background or what the Pokémon is/are like in that period of time. There are five Special Episodes in all.

==Unlocking==
Special Episodes are unlocked automatically, so players do not have to talk to a certain [[Non-player character|NPC]] to unlock them. Each special episode is unlocked by reaching a certain point in the game, at which a screen is displayed announcing that the special episode has been unlocked. Once unlocked, they can be found in the "Special Episodes" section of the game's main menu.

==Special things about Special Episodes==
* Rather than playing as their team, players play as the Pokémon focused on in the episode.
* Players can take items and money out of Kangaskhan Storage and the Duskull Bank, if their adventure starts in [[Treasure Town]].
* All items and money found in the episodes are returned to Kangaskhan Storage and the Duskull Bank, respectively, at the end of the episode.
* Players may only have a save file for one Special Episode at a time. Selecting another Special Episode from the list will overwrite the save data, resulting in a loss of all items and money not in storage or the bank.
* If a Special Episode is in progress, when the player selects "Continue" from the main menu, they are given the option to continue the Special Episode from there.

For a more detailed synopsis of any episode, possible movesets for any of the characters within an episode, or additional trivia about an episode, please select an episode from the list below.

==List of Special Episodes==
===Bidoof's Wish===
[[File:MDSky EP1.png|thumb|Bidoof and Jirachi]]
{{main|Bidoof's Wish}}
The first episode, Bidoof's Wish, is unlocked after the player and partner return from [[Mt. Bristle]] and arrest {{mdc|Drowzee|2}}. It features {{mdc|Bidoof|2}} and expands on his past and how he became an explorer.

Before the player and partner arrive at the Guild, Bidoof had been training for an unknown length of time, but long enough to make him almost lose his ambition in becoming an explorer because he messed so many things up. One day, when at in [[Treasure Town]], a {{p|Snover}} bumped into him and gave him a map to [[Star Cave]], where Jirachi lied. The next day, Bidoof asked Chatot about Star Cave, and Chatot told Bidoof the legend of Star Cave: if you manage to wake up Jirachi at the bottom, he'll grant you a wish. Hearing this, Bidoof gets excited, asks to take a day off, and goes to Star Cave with Snover.

Just before the duo reached the bottom, they found themselves at what seemed to be a dead end. Snover told Bidoof that the whole thing was a plan to steal Bidoof's 7,000 Poké he had pulled out earlier at Kecleon Market. Two other Pokémon, a {{p|Bagon}} and {{p|Gligar}}, joined Snover and a three-on-one battle began. Bidoof couldn't defeat the trio, but the Guild showed up and fought them off. Wigglytuff then knocked down the wall, allowing Bidoof to continue through the depths of Star Cave.

Bidoof finally reached the bottom, defeated a sleepy Jirachi, and thought about his wish. After contemplating several possibilities, Bidoof wished to have new members join the Guild. Jirachi then granted his wish. It is assumed that the player and partner are the result of this wish.

===Igglybuff the Prodigy===
[[File:MDSky EP2.png|thumb|left|Igglybuff]]
{{main|Igglybuff the Prodigy}}
The second episode, Igglybuff the Prodigy, is unlocked after the player and partner return from [[Fogbound Lake]] and discover its Time Gear. It features {{mdc|Wigglytuff|2}} as a young Pokémon, way back when he was an {{p|Igglybuff}}, and expands on what made him become an explorer.

It starts in Wigglytuff's chamber, with {{mdc|Chatot|2}} delivering him a Perfect Apple. While dancing around with the apple, Wigglytuff accidentally drops a shiny item, which Chatot recognizes as a Defend Globe, an item which he points out to be only for {{type|Bug}} Pokémon, and thus, not very useful for Wigglytuff. However, Wigglytuff explains that it is special for him, and explains that it has to do with what made him start exploration, and begins to tell the story of how he became an explorer.

Way back when Wigglytuff was an Igglybuff, he lived in a little house on a prairie, on which life was easy. Igglybuff had a group of friends he played with pretty much every day: {{p|Wooper}}, {{p|Budew}} and {{p|Smoochum}}. One day when Igglybuff is sharing Gummis with his friends, {{p|Banette}} and {{p|Skorupi}}, who had apparently made a repetition of being bullies, came into the group and demanded Gummis. Igglybuff's friends told him not to share Gummis, but Igglybuff did so anyway. The next day, the two returned, and convinced Igglybuff to go with them on an exploration of [[Murky Forest]], despite rumors of a monster living within.

At the end of the forest, where the monster supposedly lived, Banette and Skorupi claimed to be explorers who would fight the monster, but they got scared and ran away as they saw {{p|Armaldo}}. They wound up leaving Igglybuff behind with Armaldo, but Igglybuff didn't run away. He told Armaldo he would only go home if he was told of why Armaldo was there in the forest. Due to Igglybuff's persistence, Armaldo obliged, taking Igglybuff into Armaldo's little home and explaining that he was a former explorer, searching for treasure.

Assisting him in deciphering a map, Igglybuff befriends Armaldo, and they decide to go on an exploration to [[Eastern Cave]] together. At the end of the dungeon, they found a room full of traps and puzzles, which Armaldo proceeded to analyze. However, Igglybuff proceeded to simply walk up to the door and blow it up, much to Armaldo's shock. In the next room, they found a treasure chest, and within it was a Defend Globe, a very valuable exclusive item. Igglybuff did not care for the value of the item, and began to dance with joy simply because he had a fun time exploring.

After dancing around, Igglybuff requests to become Armaldo's exploration apprentice, because he enjoyed the exploration so much. Armaldo reluctantly allowed this, and they made plans for explorations again and again, exploring many different places and finding lots of treasure. One day, after an exploration, they planned to go to a place called [[Fortune Ravine]]. However, while they were talking, a {{p|Nidoking}} was watching, suspicious of Armaldo.

The next day, Igglybuff's friends confront his parents about him going to Murky Forest every day, only for the parents to reveal that they didn't know. Banette and Skorupi show up as well, and confirm their fears that Igglybuff had indeed been heading to Murky Forest to play. Then, Nidoking shows up, and explains that he knows who Igglybuff is with offscreen, shocking everyone. They realize they have a problem on their hands, and go off to find Igglybuff.

Meanwhile, Igglybuff and Armaldo explore the dungeon, finding a room full of torches at the end. Believing that putting out all the torches is what has to be done to open the door, Armaldo uses {{m|Water Gun}} on all of them. Rather than open the door, however, it opens a pit in the floor that leads to a [[monster house]]. They defeat the monster house, however, and leave the hole, leading to the ruins of an ancient city.

Before they can explore, they get confronted by Nidoking, along with Igglybuff's friends and family, and Officer {{p|Magnezone}} and some {{p|Magnemite|Magnemites}}. Smoochum tells Igglybuff that Armaldo is an outlaw, and it is revealed that Nidoking has been searching the whole region to find and apprehend him. Igglybuff can't bring himself to believe that Armaldo is a bad guy, and begs for them to stop taking him away, though they don't listen. Then, in sad anger, Igglybuff begins to prepare to blow up the entire area, but Armaldo stops him, telling Igglybuff that if he blows up Nidoking and Magnezone, he'll be a bad Pokemon too.

Armaldo then explained that he was an outlaw, and that he had been running around the region to escape capture. But he had taken a break in Murky Forest, and stirred up a rumor that there was a monster within so nobody would explore the forest and find him. Then, he encourages Igglybuff to become an explorer. As Magnezone and the Magnemites take Armaldo away without resistance, Armaldo tosses the Defend Globe to Igglybuff, and then left.

It goes back to Chatot and Wigglytuff, with Wigglytuff explaining that the Defend Globe was the first thing he ever got from his first true exploration, and thanks to his experiences with Armaldo, he continued exploring and exploring.
{{-}}
===Today's "Oh My Gosh"===
[[File:MDSky EP3.png|thumb|Sunflora, Haunter and Slugma]]
{{main|Today's "Oh My Gosh"}}
The third Special Episode, Today's "Oh My Gosh", is unlocked after the player, partner, and the rest of the Guild come up with the plan to capture {{mdc|Grovyle|2}} in Chapter 13. It takes place in the time when the player and partner are exploring [[Waterfall Cave]] for the first time.

Sunflora is called into Wigglytuff's room one night and is asked to capture the "Invincible Haunter" in [[Spring Cave]]. Sunflora, a Grass type, determines that this will be a hard exploration, as Spring Cave contains many Fire- and Poison-type Pokémon, two types she is weak to. Sunflora explores Upper and Lower Spring Cave, confronting Haunter at the end of both. Two {{p|Slugma}} assisted Haunter in Lower Spring Cave, by burning Sunflora and chasing her around for a bit. Loudred came and saved Sunflora just before the two Slugma attacked.

Sunflora then continued on to Spring Cave Pit, keeping in mind what Loudred said at Lower Spring Cave. Upon arrival, she told Haunter that his "invincibility" was discovered and that he actually wasn't invincible. Two other Haunter revealed themselves, but then turned the entire ground into an area full of lava and magma, burning Sunflora again. Loudred popped out of nowhere again, and a 2-on-3 battle started. The Haunter were eventually defeated and arrested. Sunflora wrote in her diary that she hoped she and Loudred could be friends.

===Here Comes Team Charm!===
[[File:MDSky EP4.png|thumb|left|[[Team Charm]]]]
{{main|Here Comes Team Charm!}}
The fourth Special Episode, Here Comes Team Charm!, is unlocked after the player and partner return from the future. It expands on how Wigglytuff met Team Charm, and reveals the location of the {{tt|fifth|This Time Gear's location is revealed fifth, but Grovyle stole it second.}} Time Gear.

Team Charm was, one day, exploring [[Southern Jungle]], in hope of finding treasure. On their way to the bottom, they found Wigglytuff, who had fainted from hunger, apparently having been robbed. The team gave Wigglytuff a Perfect Apple, which (being Wigglytuff) he gobbled up quickly. Team Charm continued to head through, arriving at [[Boulder Quarry]], which is much like [[Aegis Cave]] in that explorers constantly go around in circles. Wigglytuff showed up, chasing a Perfect Apple, and showed the team a secret, invisible entrance into [[Limestone Cavern]].

Once Team Charm went inside the cave, they found a treasure chest. When they opened it though, it appeared to be empty

When they start to leave, Teams AWD shows up and claims that Team Charm took the treasure and where lying about where it was. Team Charm and Team AWD fought, resulting in Charm's victory. The treasure chest in Limestone Cave revealed itself to be a Ditto, who transformed itself into the {{p|Bellossom}} and {{p|Sentret}} they had found earlier, and the empty treasure chest. The Ditto revealed that Limestone Cave had a Time Gear in it. Wigglytuff, after both teams left, joined forces with Team Charm, and the four went off exploring together.
{{-}}
===In the Future of Darkness===
[[File:In the Future of Darkness.png|thumb|Grovyle and Dusknoir in the future]]
{{main|In the Future of Darkness}}
The fifth and final Special Episode, In the Future of Darkness, is unlocked after the player defeats Dialga at [[Temporal Tower]]. It expands on what happened to Grovyle and Dusknoir because time was saved.

Upon return to the future, Grovyle headed to Temporal Tower to buy the player and partner some time. Dusknoir followed him, and eventually teamed up with him. Some {{p|Sableye}}, who had previously been Dusknoir's minions, reported that eliminating Dusknoir had been called for. Dusknoir, enraged, continued on, attempting to deal with this new henchman who would eliminate him.

The duo journeyed through numerous dungeons, one after another. They eventually arrived at the Temporal Tower Pinnacle, where dawn was breaking. A final battle began, with Grovyle, Dusknoir and Celebi teaming up against Primal Dialga. Dialga is defeated, and one by one, they start to vanish.

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{{EoSSpecialEpisodes}} 
{{Project Sidegames notice}}

[[ja:スペシャルエピソード]]

[[Category:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky Special Episodes|*]]
[[Category:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]

Special Episode

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Cela08: /* Special things about Special Episodes */

{{samename|special episodes in the anime|List of anime specials}}
'''Special Episodes''' (Japanese: '''スペシャルエピソード''' ''Special Episodes'') are extensions to the storyline of {{g|Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky}}. They take one or more characters that play an important role in the storyline and expand on their background or what the Pokémon is/are like in that period of time. There are five Special Episodes in all.

==Unlocking==
Special Episodes are unlocked automatically, so players do not have to talk to a certain [[Non-player character|NPC]] to unlock them. Each special episode is unlocked by reaching a certain point in the game, at which a screen is displayed announcing that the special episode has been unlocked. Once unlocked, they can be found in the "Special Episodes" section of the game's main menu.

==Special things about Special Episodes==
* Rather than playing as their team, players play as the Pokémon focused on in the episode.
* Players can take items and money out of Kangaskhan Storage and the Duskull Bank, if their adventure starts in [[Treasure Town]].
* All items and money found in the episodes are returned to Kangaskhan Storage and the Duskull Bank, respectively, at the end of the episode.
* Players may only have a save file for one Special Episode at a time. Selecting another Special Episode from the list will overwrite the save data, resulting in a loss of all items and money not in storage or the bank.
* If a Special Episode is in progress, when the player selects "Continue" from the main menu, they are given the option to continue the Special Episode from there.

For a more detailed synopsis of any episode, possible movesets for any of the characters within an episode, or additional trivia about an episode, please select an episode from the list below.

==List of Special Episodes==
===Bidoof's Wish===
[[File:MDSky EP1.png|thumb|Bidoof and Jirachi]]
{{main|Bidoof's Wish}}
The first episode, Bidoof's Wish, is unlocked after the player and partner return from [[Mt. Bristle]] and arrest {{mdc|Drowzee|2}}. It features {{mdc|Bidoof|2}} and expands on his past and how he became an explorer.

Before the player and partner arrive at the Guild, Bidoof had been training for an unknown length of time, but long enough to make him almost lose his ambition in becoming an explorer because he messed so many things up. One day, when at in [[Treasure Town]], a {{p|Snover}} bumped into him and gave him a map to [[Star Cave]], where Jirachi lied. The next day, Bidoof asked Chatot about Star Cave, and Chatot told Bidoof the legend of Star Cave: if you manage to wake up Jirachi at the bottom, he'll grant you a wish. Hearing this, Bidoof gets excited, asks to take a day off, and goes to Star Cave with Snover.

Just before the duo reached the bottom, they found themselves at what seemed to be a dead end. Snover told Bidoof that the whole thing was a plan to steal Bidoof's 7,000 Poké he had pulled out earlier at Kecleon Market. Two other Pokémon, a {{p|Bagon}} and {{p|Gligar}}, joined Snover and a three-on-one battle began. Bidoof couldn't defeat the trio, but the Guild showed up and fought them off. Wigglytuff then knocked down the wall, allowing Bidoof to continue through the depths of Star Cave.

Bidoof finally reached the bottom, defeated a sleepy Jirachi, and thought about his wish. After contemplating several possibilities, including "To eat lots of yummy food", Bidoof wished to have new members join the Guild. Jirachi then granted his wish. It is assumed that the player and partner are the result of this wish.

===Igglybuff the Prodigy===
[[File:MDSky EP2.png|thumb|left|Igglybuff]]
{{main|Igglybuff the Prodigy}}
The second episode, Igglybuff the Prodigy, is unlocked after the player and partner return from [[Fogbound Lake]] and discover its Time Gear. It features {{mdc|Wigglytuff|2}} as a young Pokémon, way back when he was an {{p|Igglybuff}}, and expands on what made him become an explorer.

Way back when Wigglytuff was an Igglybuff, he lived in a little house on a prairie, on which life was easy. Igglybuff had a group of friends he played with pretty much every day: {{p|Wooper}}, {{p|Budew}} and {{p|Smoochum}}. One day when Igglybuff is sharing Gummis with his friends, {{p|Banette}} and {{p|Skorupi}}, who had apparently made a repetition of being bullies, came into the group and demanded Gummis. Igglybuff's friends told him not to share Gummis, but Igglybuff did so anyway. The next day, the two returned, and went to [[Murky Forest]] on an exploration. Igglybuff joined them.

At the end of the forest, where a monster supposedly lived, Banette and Skorupi got scared and ran away as they saw {{p|Armaldo}}. They wound up leaving Igglybuff there with Armaldo, but Igglybuff didn't run away. He told Armaldo he would only go home if he was told of why Armaldo was there in the forest.

Igglybuff befriends Armaldo, and they set off on many adventures together, exploring [[Eastern Cave]] and [[Fortune Ravine]]. Because of these adventures, Igglybuff decides he wants to become a professional explorer, and so continues exploring.
{{-}}
===Today's "Oh My Gosh"===
[[File:MDSky EP3.png|thumb|Sunflora, Haunter and Slugma]]
{{main|Today's "Oh My Gosh"}}
The third Special Episode, Today's "Oh My Gosh", is unlocked after the player, partner, and the rest of the Guild come up with the plan to capture {{mdc|Grovyle|2}} in Chapter 13. It takes place in the time when the player and partner are exploring [[Waterfall Cave]] for the first time.

Sunflora is called into Wigglytuff's room one night and is asked to capture the "Invincible Haunter" in [[Spring Cave]]. Sunflora, a Grass type, determines that this will be a hard exploration, as Spring Cave contains many Fire- and Poison-type Pokémon, two types she is weak to. Sunflora explores Upper and Lower Spring Cave, confronting Haunter at the end of both. Two {{p|Slugma}} assisted Haunter in Lower Spring Cave, by burning Sunflora and chasing her around for a bit. Loudred came and saved Sunflora just before the two Slugma attacked.

Sunflora then continued on to Spring Cave Pit, keeping in mind what Loudred said at Lower Spring Cave. Upon arrival, she told Haunter that his "invincibility" was discovered and that he actually wasn't invincible. Two other Haunter revealed themselves, but then turned the entire ground into an area full of lava and magma, burning Sunflora again. Loudred popped out of nowhere again, and a 2-on-3 battle started. The Haunter were eventually defeated and arrested. Sunflora wrote in her diary that she hoped she and Loudred could be friends.

===Here Comes Team Charm!===
[[File:MDSky EP4.png|thumb|left|[[Team Charm]]]]
{{main|Here Comes Team Charm!}}
The fourth Special Episode, Here Comes Team Charm!, is unlocked after the player and partner return from the future. It expands on how Wigglytuff met Team Charm, and reveals the location of the {{tt|fifth|This Time Gear's location is revealed fifth, but Grovyle stole it second.}} Time Gear.

Team Charm was, one day, exploring [[Southern Jungle]], in hope of finding treasure. On their way to the bottom, they found Wigglytuff, who had fainted from hunger. The team gave Wigglytuff a Perfect Apple, which (being Wigglytuff) he gobbled up quickly. Team Charm continued to head through, arriving at [[Boulder Quarry]], which is much like [[Aegis Cave]] in that explorers constantly go around in circles. Wigglytuff showed up, chasing a Perfect Apple, and showed the team a secret, invisible entrance into [[Limestone Cavern]].

Once Team Charm went inside the cave, they found a treasure chest. When they opened it though, it appeared to be empty

When they start to leave, Teams AWD shows up and claims that Team Charm took the treasure and where lying about where it was. Team Charm and Team AWD fought, resulting in Charm's victory. The treasure chest in Limestone Cave revealed itself to be a Ditto, who transformed itself into the {{p|Bellossom}} and {{p|Sentret}} they had found earlier, and the empty treasure chest. The Ditto revealed that Limestone Cave had a Time Gear in it. Wigglytuff, after both teams left, joined forces with Team Charm, and the four went off exploring together.
{{-}}
===In the Future of Darkness===
[[File:In the Future of Darkness.png|thumb|Grovyle and Dusknoir in the future]]
{{main|In the Future of Darkness}}
The fifth and final Special Episode, In the Future of Darkness, is unlocked after the player defeats Dialga at [[Temporal Tower]]. It expands on what happened to Grovyle and Dusknoir because time was saved.

Upon return to the future, Grovyle headed to Temporal Tower to buy the player and partner some time. Dusknoir followed him, and eventually teamed up with him. Some {{p|Sableye}}, who had previously been Dusknoir's minions, reported that eliminating Dusknoir had been called for. Dusknoir, enraged, continued on, attempting to deal with this new henchman who would eliminate him.

The duo journeyed through numerous dungeons, one after another. They eventually arrived at the Temporal Tower Pinnacle, where dawn was breaking. A final battle began, with Grovyle, Dusknoir and Celebi teaming up against Primal Dialga. Dialga is defeated, and one by one, they start to vanish.

{{-}}
{{EoSSpecialEpisodes}} 
{{Project Sidegames notice}}

[[ja:スペシャルエピソード]]

[[Category:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky Special Episodes|*]]
[[Category:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]

Special Episode

2015-08-09T17:59:14Z

Cela08: /* Unlocking */

{{samename|special episodes in the anime|List of anime specials}}
'''Special Episodes''' (Japanese: '''スペシャルエピソード''' ''Special Episodes'') are extensions to the storyline of {{g|Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky}}. They take one or more characters that play an important role in the storyline and expand on their background or what the Pokémon is/are like in that period of time. There are five Special Episodes in all.

==Unlocking==
Special Episodes are unlocked automatically, so players do not have to talk to a certain [[Non-player character|NPC]] to unlock them. Each special episode is unlocked by reaching a certain point in the game, at which a screen is displayed announcing that the special episode has been unlocked. Once unlocked, they can be found in the "Special Episodes" section of the game's main menu.

==Special things about Special Episodes==
* Players can take items and money out of Kangaskhan Storage and the Duskull Bank, if their adventure starts in [[Treasure Town]].
* All items and money found in the episodes are returned to Kangaskhan Storage and the Duskull Bank, respectively, at the end of the episode.
* Players may only have a save file for one Special Episode at a time. Selecting another Special Episode from the list will overwrite the save data, resulting in a loss of all items and money not in storage or the bank.
* If a Special Episode is in progress, when the player selects "Continue" from the main menu, they are given the option to continue the Special Episode from there.

For a more detailed synopsis of any episode, possible movesets for any of the characters within an episode, or additional trivia about an episode, please select an episode from the list below.

==List of Special Episodes==
===Bidoof's Wish===
[[File:MDSky EP1.png|thumb|Bidoof and Jirachi]]
{{main|Bidoof's Wish}}
The first episode, Bidoof's Wish, is unlocked after the player and partner return from [[Mt. Bristle]] and arrest {{mdc|Drowzee|2}}. It features {{mdc|Bidoof|2}} and expands on his past and how he became an explorer.

Before the player and partner arrive at the Guild, Bidoof had been training for an unknown length of time, but long enough to make him almost lose his ambition in becoming an explorer because he messed so many things up. One day, when at in [[Treasure Town]], a {{p|Snover}} bumped into him and gave him a map to [[Star Cave]], where Jirachi lied. The next day, Bidoof asked Chatot about Star Cave, and Chatot told Bidoof the legend of Star Cave: if you manage to wake up Jirachi at the bottom, he'll grant you a wish. Hearing this, Bidoof gets excited, asks to take a day off, and goes to Star Cave with Snover.

Just before the duo reached the bottom, they found themselves at what seemed to be a dead end. Snover told Bidoof that the whole thing was a plan to steal Bidoof's 7,000 Poké he had pulled out earlier at Kecleon Market. Two other Pokémon, a {{p|Bagon}} and {{p|Gligar}}, joined Snover and a three-on-one battle began. Bidoof couldn't defeat the trio, but the Guild showed up and fought them off. Wigglytuff then knocked down the wall, allowing Bidoof to continue through the depths of Star Cave.

Bidoof finally reached the bottom, defeated a sleepy Jirachi, and thought about his wish. After contemplating several possibilities, including "To eat lots of yummy food", Bidoof wished to have new members join the Guild. Jirachi then granted his wish. It is assumed that the player and partner are the result of this wish.

===Igglybuff the Prodigy===
[[File:MDSky EP2.png|thumb|left|Igglybuff]]
{{main|Igglybuff the Prodigy}}
The second episode, Igglybuff the Prodigy, is unlocked after the player and partner return from [[Fogbound Lake]] and discover its Time Gear. It features {{mdc|Wigglytuff|2}} as a young Pokémon, way back when he was an {{p|Igglybuff}}, and expands on what made him become an explorer.

Way back when Wigglytuff was an Igglybuff, he lived in a little house on a prairie, on which life was easy. Igglybuff had a group of friends he played with pretty much every day: {{p|Wooper}}, {{p|Budew}} and {{p|Smoochum}}. One day when Igglybuff is sharing Gummis with his friends, {{p|Banette}} and {{p|Skorupi}}, who had apparently made a repetition of being bullies, came into the group and demanded Gummis. Igglybuff's friends told him not to share Gummis, but Igglybuff did so anyway. The next day, the two returned, and went to [[Murky Forest]] on an exploration. Igglybuff joined them.

At the end of the forest, where a monster supposedly lived, Banette and Skorupi got scared and ran away as they saw {{p|Armaldo}}. They wound up leaving Igglybuff there with Armaldo, but Igglybuff didn't run away. He told Armaldo he would only go home if he was told of why Armaldo was there in the forest.

Igglybuff befriends Armaldo, and they set off on many adventures together, exploring [[Eastern Cave]] and [[Fortune Ravine]]. Because of these adventures, Igglybuff decides he wants to become a professional explorer, and so continues exploring.
{{-}}
===Today's "Oh My Gosh"===
[[File:MDSky EP3.png|thumb|Sunflora, Haunter and Slugma]]
{{main|Today's "Oh My Gosh"}}
The third Special Episode, Today's "Oh My Gosh", is unlocked after the player, partner, and the rest of the Guild come up with the plan to capture {{mdc|Grovyle|2}} in Chapter 13. It takes place in the time when the player and partner are exploring [[Waterfall Cave]] for the first time.

Sunflora is called into Wigglytuff's room one night and is asked to capture the "Invincible Haunter" in [[Spring Cave]]. Sunflora, a Grass type, determines that this will be a hard exploration, as Spring Cave contains many Fire- and Poison-type Pokémon, two types she is weak to. Sunflora explores Upper and Lower Spring Cave, confronting Haunter at the end of both. Two {{p|Slugma}} assisted Haunter in Lower Spring Cave, by burning Sunflora and chasing her around for a bit. Loudred came and saved Sunflora just before the two Slugma attacked.

Sunflora then continued on to Spring Cave Pit, keeping in mind what Loudred said at Lower Spring Cave. Upon arrival, she told Haunter that his "invincibility" was discovered and that he actually wasn't invincible. Two other Haunter revealed themselves, but then turned the entire ground into an area full of lava and magma, burning Sunflora again. Loudred popped out of nowhere again, and a 2-on-3 battle started. The Haunter were eventually defeated and arrested. Sunflora wrote in her diary that she hoped she and Loudred could be friends.

===Here Comes Team Charm!===
[[File:MDSky EP4.png|thumb|left|[[Team Charm]]]]
{{main|Here Comes Team Charm!}}
The fourth Special Episode, Here Comes Team Charm!, is unlocked after the player and partner return from the future. It expands on how Wigglytuff met Team Charm, and reveals the location of the {{tt|fifth|This Time Gear's location is revealed fifth, but Grovyle stole it second.}} Time Gear.

Team Charm was, one day, exploring [[Southern Jungle]], in hope of finding treasure. On their way to the bottom, they found Wigglytuff, who had fainted from hunger. The team gave Wigglytuff a Perfect Apple, which (being Wigglytuff) he gobbled up quickly. Team Charm continued to head through, arriving at [[Boulder Quarry]], which is much like [[Aegis Cave]] in that explorers constantly go around in circles. Wigglytuff showed up, chasing a Perfect Apple, and showed the team a secret, invisible entrance into [[Limestone Cavern]].

Once Team Charm went inside the cave, they found a treasure chest. When they opened it though, it appeared to be empty

When they start to leave, Teams AWD shows up and claims that Team Charm took the treasure and where lying about where it was. Team Charm and Team AWD fought, resulting in Charm's victory. The treasure chest in Limestone Cave revealed itself to be a Ditto, who transformed itself into the {{p|Bellossom}} and {{p|Sentret}} they had found earlier, and the empty treasure chest. The Ditto revealed that Limestone Cave had a Time Gear in it. Wigglytuff, after both teams left, joined forces with Team Charm, and the four went off exploring together.
{{-}}
===In the Future of Darkness===
[[File:In the Future of Darkness.png|thumb|Grovyle and Dusknoir in the future]]
{{main|In the Future of Darkness}}
The fifth and final Special Episode, In the Future of Darkness, is unlocked after the player defeats Dialga at [[Temporal Tower]]. It expands on what happened to Grovyle and Dusknoir because time was saved.

Upon return to the future, Grovyle headed to Temporal Tower to buy the player and partner some time. Dusknoir followed him, and eventually teamed up with him. Some {{p|Sableye}}, who had previously been Dusknoir's minions, reported that eliminating Dusknoir had been called for. Dusknoir, enraged, continued on, attempting to deal with this new henchman who would eliminate him.

The duo journeyed through numerous dungeons, one after another. They eventually arrived at the Temporal Tower Pinnacle, where dawn was breaking. A final battle began, with Grovyle, Dusknoir and Celebi teaming up against Primal Dialga. Dialga is defeated, and one by one, they start to vanish.

{{-}}
{{EoSSpecialEpisodes}} 
{{Project Sidegames notice}}

[[ja:スペシャルエピソード]]

[[Category:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky Special Episodes|*]]
[[Category:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]

Special Episode

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Cela08: /* Intro */ When was there ever a special episode about what would have happened if the player did something differently?

Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky

2015-08-09T17:46:46Z

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|platform=[[Nintendo DS]]
|category=Dungeon crawler, Roguelike
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|link_method=[[DS Wireless Communications|DS Wireless]], [[Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection|Wi-Fi]]
|developer=[[Chunsoft]]
|publisher=[[Nintendo]] [[The Pokémon Company]]
|gen_series=[[Generation IV]] [[Spin-off Pokémon games|side series]]
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'''Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky''' (Japanese: '''ポケモン不思議のダンジョン　空の探検隊''' ''Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky'') is a game developed by [[Chunsoft]], and is a sister game to {{g|Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness}}. It is the fifth entry in the [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (series)|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon series]], an adaptation of the {{wp|Mystery Dungeon}} games for Pokémon. The game was first announced in [[CoroCoro]], which released the first details in January 2009. It was officially released in Japan on April 18, 2009 and in North America on October 12, 2009.

==New features==
* Players can now play as four new [[starter Pokémon]]: {{p|Phanpy}}, {{p|Vulpix}}, {{p|Riolu}}, and {{p|Shinx}}. {{p|Munchlax}} and {{p|Meowth}} are no longer playable as the main hero, and {{p|Eevee}} returns from {{g|Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team}}. Moreover, every starter Pokémon, in addition to Meowth and Munchlax, are available as partners.
** Some of the starter and partner Pokémon can now start with an [[Egg move]].
* Players can now play the music used in the game with the '''[[Sky Jukebox]]'''.
* There is a new place called '''[[Spinda's Café]]''' where the following can be found:
** '''Spinda's Juice Bar''' grants access to several [[Lush Prairie|exc]][[Serenity River|lus]][[Happy Outlook|ive]] [[Lost Wilderness|dung]][[Destiny Tower|eons]], and it also allows players to make drinks out of food items.
** '''Recycle Shop''' allows players to exchange excess items for other items. The more items exchanged, the better the items available will be. Players may also trade items for Prize Tickets (more kinds of tickets can be unlocked by a team's rank; for example, Silver Tickets are only available to teams in the Silver rank). Prize tickets can be used in a lottery, where the player gets to choose from three colors for the drawing (red, blue, and yellow). The player can sometimes get rare items this way.
** The player's team recruits can now be found in Spinda's Café (once it opens).
** Job requests can also be found here, and can be accepted or rejected by talking to the client to the left of the exit.
** Dungeons that were previously only attainable through job requests can also be found in Spinda's Juice Bar and the Recycle Shop.
* There is a new location called the '''[[Secret Bazaar]]''' which is found randomly in dungeons. It is run by {{p|Kirlia}}. The bazaar has several stalls found inside.
** {{p|Mime Jr.}}'s stall restores the team's Health Points (HP), Power Points (PP), and fill the belly for 100 [[Poké]].
** Swalot's ''Grab Bag Shop'' gives players Grab Bags for 100 [[Poké]]. They may hold useful items inside them.
** Lickilicky will clean the player's items in their inventory for 100 [[Poké]].
** Shedinja's gives players a chance to escape the dungeon sooner for 100 [[Poké]].
* A new location, '''[[Shaymin Village]]''', is unlocked after completion of the main game, featuring a tribe of {{p|Shaymin}}, where the player also allies with Team Frontier to reclaim the trail leading to the top of the nearby [[Sky Peak Station Passes|Sky Peak]] mountain. An accompanying Shaymin demonstrates its ability to instantly purify polluted environments, its use of the [[Gracidea]] to transform into its Sky Forme, and can be later recruited into the player's party.
* Players can find a statue of {{p|Arceus}} in a new dungeon called '''[[Destiny Tower]]'''. The story here involves a new item called the '''[[Space Globe]]'''.
* Players only lose half of their money when defeated in a dungeon, instead of all of it.
* Tradeable items can be traded for any others now, provided they are available at [[Croagunk's Swap Shop]].
* Using DS Download Play, the player can send their friends a demo of the game.
* The {{p|Luxray}} and {{p|Luxio}} tribe that was the boss of [[Amp Plains]] has been replaced by the {{p|Manectric}} and {{p|Electrike}} tribe. This is possibly due to one of the starter and partner choices in this game being {{p|Shinx}}.
* A new item called the [[Sky Gift]] can be obtained in an area consisting of ten dungeons called [[Sky Peak Station Passes|Sky Peak]].
* {{p|Raikou}}, {{p|Entei}}, and {{p|Suicune}} are no longer acquired with the [[Mystery Part and Secret Slab]] or in [[Final Maze]], and are now in three new dungeons called '''[[Southeastern Islands]]''', '''[[Inferno Cave]]''', and '''[[Treacherous Waters]]'''. These dungeons are unlocked through random challenges in Spinda's Cafe, but the only way to get these challenges is to unlock the Secret Rank: {{p|Suicune}} at '''[[Treacherous Waters]]''', {{p|Raikou}} at '''[[Southeastern Islands]]''' and {{p|Entei}} at '''[[Inferno Cave]]'''.
** The same applies for {{p|Mewtwo}}, but it can be fought in [[Sky Stairway]] instead.
** Jirachi is now fought in Star Cave, only accessible through Wonder Mail codes or Spinda's Café. The Special Episode "Bidoof's Wish" must be completed first.
* Occasionally bottles containing job requests will wash up along the beach. Upon finding a bottle the player has the option to take or reject the request. Rejected jobs remain on the beach until taken. However, if the player wants, they can accept the job and then delete it to remove the bottle.
* Some of the items found in a dungeon might not be what they seem to be. These items are called [[Lookalike Item]]s. For example, a blue [[Berry]] found in a dungeon might not be of the healing [[Oran Berry|Oran]] variety, but the damaging Or'''e'''n.

==Other minor differences with Time and Darkness==
* When the player robs a {{p|Kecleon}} in Time/Darkness he says "Robbed! I've been robbed! Catch the thief!". In Sky, he says, "My precious merchandise! Catch the thief!" instead.
* When the player recruits a new Pokémon, if the team is full, it allows the player to choose who they would like to send back to the guild, instead of immediately sending the new recruit back. Likewise, the same goes if the player tries to do an escort mission and the team is full.
* The amount of time it takes to save the player's game is much shorter.
* When saving their game, the player can choose whether they want to continue playing or return to the main menu.
* When the team's leader tries to switch places with a teammate while they are on a terrain the teammate cannot normally walk on, the teammate will warp right back to them, whereas in previous games it would warp them to a random spot.
* Wonder Mail is replaced with a new format called Wonder Mail S, which is not compatible with Time/Darkness, and making Time/Darkness Wonder Mail codes incompatible with Sky.

==Plot==
{{incomplete plot}}
{{spoilers}}
{{main|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness#Plot}}
Being a sister game to Explorers of Time and Darkness, Explorers of Sky has a similar plot with minor differences.

===Special Episodes===
{{main|Special Episode}}
During the course of the game, players can engage in various scenarios that expand upon the story of some of the different characters.

{| style="background: #{{md sky color}}; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 4px solid #{{md sky color}}; max-width: 75%; margin:auto" colspan=4 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! rowspan="2" style="background: #{{md sky color dark}}; {{roundytl|5px}};" | {{color|{{md sky color light}}|Episode}}
! style="background: #{{md sky color dark}}" | {{color|{{md sky color light}}|Title}}
! rowspan="2" style="background: #{{md sky color dark}}; {{roundytr|5px}};" | {{color|{{md sky color light}}|Information}}
|-
! style="background: #{{md sky color dark}}" | {{color|{{md sky color light}}|How to Unlock}}
|- style="background: #{{md sky color dark}}"
! rowspan="2" | [[File:MDSky EP1.png|150px]]
| style="background: #{{md sky color light}}; text-align:center" | {{color|{{md sky color dark}}|[[Bidoof's Wish]]}}
| rowspan="2" style="background: #fff" | The first episode features the past of the {{p|Bidoof}} in [[Wigglytuff's Guild]] just after he entered the guild. He goes to the [[Star Cave]] to have his wish granted by a {{p|Jirachi}}.
|-
| style="background: #{{md sky color light}}; text-align:center" | {{color|{{md sky color dark}}|Arrest {{p|Drowzee}} in Chapter 3}}
|- style="background: #{{md sky color dark}}"
! rowspan="2" | [[File:MDSky EP2.png|150px]]
| style="background: #{{md sky color light}}; text-align:center" | {{color|{{md sky color dark}}|[[Igglybuff the Prodigy]]}}
| rowspan="2" style="background: #fff" | The second episode features {{mdc|Wigglytuff|2}} as an {{p|Igglybuff}}. It explores his past and explains how he became an explorer.
|-
| style="background: #{{md sky color light}}; text-align:center" | {{color|{{md sky color dark}}|Return to the Guild in Chapter 9}}
|- style="background: #{{md sky color dark}}"
! rowspan="2" | [[File:MDSky EP3.png|150px]]
| style="background: #{{md sky color light}}; text-align:center" | {{color|{{md sky color dark}}|[[Today's "Oh My Gosh"]]}}
| rowspan="2" style="background: #fff" | The third episode features the fellow guild member, {{p|Sunflora}}. She was given a mission to seek out a {{p|Haunter}} but was apparently unprepared for what she was about to face.
|-
| style="background: #{{md sky color light}}; text-align:center" | {{color|{{md sky color dark}}|Come up with the plan to capture {{mdc|Grovyle|2}} in Chapter 13}}
|- style="background: #{{md sky color dark}}"
! rowspan="2" | [[File:MDSky EP4.png|120px]]
| style="background: #{{md sky color light}}; text-align:center" | {{color|{{md sky color dark}}|[[Here Comes Team Charm!]]}}
| rowspan="2" style="background: #fff" | The fourth episode features [[Team Charm]] and their past. [[Team AWD]] can also be found here.
|-
| style="background: #{{md sky color light}}; text-align:center" | {{color|{{md sky color dark}}|Return from the future in Chapter 15}}
|- style="background: #{{md sky color dark}}"
! rowspan="2" | [[File:In the Future of Darkness.png|150px]]
| style="background: #{{md sky color light}}; text-align:center" | {{color|{{md sky color dark}}|[[In the Future of Darkness]]}}
| rowspan="2" style="background: #fff" | The fifth episode is set in the dark future. {{mdc|Grovyle|2}} and {{mdc|Dusknoir|2}} work together when [[Primal Dialga]] tries to get rid of them or so it seems...
|-
| style="background: #{{md sky color light}}; text-align:center" | {{color|{{md sky color dark}}|Graduate from the [[Wigglytuff Guild]]}}
|-
| colspan="3" style="background: #{{md sky color dark}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" |
|}

==Blurb==
Now you can go beyond darkness...outside the limits of time...to the skies! Be a Pokémon and experience the world in a whole new way! Learn more secrets of Time and Darkness...Journey with your friends on remarkable adventures and save the world!

==Playable characters==
{| style="background: #{{md sky color dark}}; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 5px solid #{{md sky color}}; margin:auto"
! style="background:#{{md sky color}}; {{roundytl|5px}};" rowspan="2" colspan="2" | {{color2|000|Pokémon}}
! style="background:#{{md sky color}}" colspan="2" | {{color2|000|Nature}}
! style="background:#{{md sky color}}; {{roundytr|5px}};" rowspan="2" | {{color2|000|Egg move}}
|- style="background:#{{md sky color}}"
! Male !! Female
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:MDP001.png]]
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | {{pcolor|Bulbasaur|000}}
| Lonely || Docile || style="text-align:center" | —
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:MDP004.png]]
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | {{pcolor|Charmander|000}}
| Docile || Brave || style="text-align:center" | —
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:MDP007.png]]
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | {{pcolor|Squirtle|000}}
| Quirky || Bold || style="text-align:center" | —
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:MDP025.png]]
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | {{pcolor|Pikachu|000}}
| Brave || Hasty || style="text-align:center" | —
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:MDP037.png]]
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | {{pcolor|Vulpix|000}}
| style="text-align:center" | — || Relaxed || {{mcolor|Faint Attack|000}}
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:MDP052.png]]
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | {{pcolor|Meowth|000}}*
| style="text-align:center" | — || style="text-align:center" | — || {{mcolor|Hypnosis|000}}
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:MDP133.png]]
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | {{pcolor|Eevee|000}}
| style="text-align:center" | — || Jolly || {{mcolor|Flail|000}}
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:MDP152.png]]
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | {{pcolor|Chikorita|000}}
| Calm || Quiet || style="text-align:center" | —
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:MDP155.png]]
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | {{pcolor|Cyndaquil|000}}
| Timid || Calm || style="text-align:center" | —
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:MDP158.png]]
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | {{pcolor|Totodile|000}}
| Jolly || Sassy || style="text-align:center" | —
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:MDP231.png]]
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | {{pcolor|Phanpy|000}}
| Relaxed || style="text-align:center" | — || {{mcolor|AncientPower|000}}
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:MDP252.png]]
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | {{pcolor|Treecko|000}}
| Quiet || Hardy || style="text-align:center" | —
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:MDP255.png]]
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | {{pcolor|Torchic|000}}
| Hardy || Rash || style="text-align:center" | —
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:MDP258.png]]
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | {{pcolor|Mudkip|000}}
| Rash || Lonely || style="text-align:center" | —
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:MDP300.png]]
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | {{pcolor|Skitty|000}}
| style="text-align:center" | — || Naïve || {{mcolor|Zen Headbutt|000}}
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:MDP387.png]]
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | {{pcolor|Turtwig|000}}
| Bold || Timid || style="text-align:center" | —
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:MDP390.png]]
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | {{pcolor|Chimchar|000}}
| Naïve || Impish || style="text-align:center" | —
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:MDP393.png]]
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | {{pcolor|Piplup|000}}
| Impish || Quirky || style="text-align:center" | —
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:MDP403.png]]
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | {{pcolor|Shinx|000}}
| Hasty || style="text-align:center" | — || {{mcolor|Quick Attack|000}}
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:MDP446.png]]
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | {{pcolor|Munchlax|000}}*
| style="text-align:center" | — || style="text-align:center" | — || {{mcolor|Zen Headbutt|000}}
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:MDP447.png]]
! style="background:#{{md sky color light}}" | {{pcolor|Riolu|000}}
| Sassy || style="text-align:center" | — || {{mcolor|Bite|000}}
|-
| style="background:#{{md sky color}}; {{roundybottom|5px}};" colspan="5" | Notes:
* <nowiki>*</nowiki>: These Pokémon may only be selected as a partner.
|}

==Connectivity==
This game is capable of trading items with {{g|Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness}}. Rescues may also be carried out between the three. If a rescue mail is sent from Sky to Time or Darkness, the mail will appear to have come from either Time or Darkness.

==Staff==
{{main|Staff of Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky}}

==Gallery==
<gallery perrow=4>
File:Wigglytuff Guild exterior.png|The new starters
File:PMD Sky Grovyle.jpg|{{mdc|Grovyle|2}} and a [[Time Gear]]
File:PMD Sky explore.jpg|Exploration
File:MD Sky Chimchar Phanpy.jpg|{{p|Chimchar}} and {{p|Phanpy}} helping an {{p|Oddish}}
File:MD Sky Squirtle Vulpix.jpg|{{p|Squirtle}} and {{p|Vulpix}} standing before a crystal in Crystal Cave
File:Giratina PMD3.png|{{p|Giratina}} (Origin Forme), {{p|Riolu}}, and {{p|Pikachu}} explore a dungeon
File:MD Sky Jukebox.png|[[Sky Jukebox]]
File:MD Sky jukebox use.png|Using the jukebox
File:MDS Message in a Bottle.png|A message in a bottle
File:MD Sky Arceus statue.png|Destiny Tower
File:Arceus PMD3.png|Riolu and the Arceus statue
</gallery>

==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{MD Sky color}}|bordercolor={{MD Sky color light}}
|fr=Pokémon Donjon Mystère: Explorateurs du Ciel
|de=Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Erkundungsteam Himmel
|it=Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Esploratori del Cielo
|es=Pokémon Mundo Misterioso: Exploradores del Cielo
|ko={{tt|포켓몬 불가사의 던전: 하늘의 탐험대|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky}}}}

==References==
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Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness

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'''Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time''' (Japanese: '''ポケモン不思議のダンジョン　時の探検隊''' ''Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time'') and '''Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Darkness''' (Japanese: '''ポケモン不思議のダンジョン　闇の探検隊''' ''Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Darkness'') are a matched pair of Pokémon games for the [[Nintendo DS]]. These games are the second pair of entries in the [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (series)|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon series]], an adaptation of the {{wp|Mystery Dungeon}} games for Pokémon.

The games are successors to [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team]]. They include the new [[Generation IV]] Pokémon and have some Wi-Fi features, as well as more dual-screen features than their predecessor for the same system (Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team).

An [[SS020|anime adaptation]] of these games has been produced.

These games feature 491 Pokémon; {{p|Shaymin}} and {{p|Arceus}} were excluded for they had yet to be officially revealed when the games were released. The games were released on April 20, 2008.

[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|A third installment]] was developed by [[Chunsoft]] and was released on April 18, 2009 in Japan.

==Plot==
{{spoilers}}
The story begins with a cut-scene where the {{player}} is to have been unconscious on a beach due to a time-traveling accident, causing him/her to become a Pokémon. Meanwhile, the partner is nervous about joining the [[Wigglytuff's Guild]], a local exploration club, and gives up early. Walking along the beach, the partner encounters the player, and informs that the player has been turned into a Pokémon. The [[Relic Fragment]] the partner holds is then stolen by Zubat and Koffing, members of [[Team Skull]], which the player helps recover. After a brief exchange, the partner explains their motivation for joining the guild. The player's partner loves legend and lore and their life dream is to find the secret of their personal treasure-a Relic Fragment with a strange pattern on it. The partner, reinvigorated by the player's courage, joins the Guild as a new team with the player.

Over the next few days, the team gets accustomed to life at the Guild and the nearby [[Treasure Town]]. Among the folks they meet are {{mdc|Wigglytuff|2}}, the kindhearted Guild Leader, {{mdc|Chatot|2}}, the hot-tempered yet well-meaning second-in-command, {{p|Bidoof}}, the newest recruit prior to the team joining, the Guild chef {{p|Chimecho}} (also in charge of maintaining the team), {{p|Diglett}} and {{mdc|Loudred|2}}, the Guild sentries, {{p|Dugtrio}}, maintainers of the job boards, {{p|Magnezone}}, the local sheriff, and other exploration teams. As they are introduced to the Guild, they learn of the fact that rogue Pokémon have been wreaking havoc in the world due to the disruption of time, Pokémon cannot [[evolution|evolve]], and new "Mystery Dungeons" have been revealed and open to exploration.

The player discovers not too long after that he/she has the ability to spontaneously see things in the past and future, but only when touching an object of some kind. This is known as the [[Dimensional Scream]], as revealed later by {{p|Dusknoir}}.

===The legend of the Time Gears===
One stormy night, the partner finds the player and tells the player that they have been transformed. A Zubat and Koffing come and steal the partner's special item. The player helps get it back and they form an exploration team. They go to Wigglytuff's Guild to register their team. They go to sleep and the next morning, they are awoken by extremely loud yelling. It was Loudred, a local apprentice. The team does their first job that day and it ended as a success. That night, the partner tells the player the story of the [[Time Gear]]s, the artifacts that all Pokémon are to avoid less time stand still. When a Time Gear is stolen, time in that area is frozen. Despite this, a mysterious thief is stealing the Time Gears, of which nobody knows about until sooner later.

One day, the player and partner, along with the Guild and Team Skull (as special guests), make an expedition to a location called [[Fogbound Lake]], a lake seemingly covered in fog. Arriving there, the player recalls the place as being familiar, but cannot ascertain as to why. At the top, they find and defeat {{p|Groudon}} to find out that it was only an illusion made by the [[Lake guardians|Lake Guardian]], {{mdc|Uxie|2}}, who is said to be able to erase the memories of all who arrive there. Uxie does not trust the Guild, fearing that they may take the Time Gear at the center of the lake, hence the reason for erasing the memories. However, after an appeal from the partner, the Guild earns Uxie's trust, and Uxie decides not to erase the memories of the Guild or the lake's treasure.

Returning home, they meet a famous explorer named {{mdc|Dusknoir|2}}, who explains that the player's ability to see through time is called the [[Dimensional Scream]]. Asking Dusknoir how the player had arrived in their condition, they surprisingly get no results. Nevertheless, Dusknoir offers their help in uncovering the secret behind the player's transformation. Just then, however, the Guild reports that the Time Gear from Fogbound Lake has been stolen, and an all-points bulletin has been posted for the arrest of {{mdc|Grovyle|2}}. As a result, Wigglytuff has the Guild focus their energies on bringing Grovyle to justice, to which Dusknoir also offers his assistance. The Guild splits up to look for the other Time Gears, while the player's team eventually discovers an underground lake beneath the Northern Desert, which is home to a Time Gear. The Time Gear is guarded over by {{p|Mesprit}}, which the team defeats. Just as the partner explains that they are not there to steal the Time Gear, Grovyle appears. Grovyle easily dispatches the team and the weakened Mesprit, and steals the Time Gear. Fortunately, the team and Mesprit manages to escape before they are frozen in time.

Back at the guild, the failure of the team to stop Grovyle meant that there are no leads to his next location. However, Dusknoir determines that, as Uxie is the being of knowledge, and Mesprit is the being of emotion, thus {{p|Azelf}}, the being of willpower, is likely to be guarding another Time Gear. Dusknoir further explains that as Uxie and Mesprit were encountered in lakes, Azelf is also likely to be found in a lake area. Hoping to find a lead, Dusknoir asks the player to touch a treasure that Bidoof took with him at [[Crystal Cave]], in order to trigger a Dimensional Scream. Indeed, after touching it, the player sees a vision where Azelf is defeated at the hands of Grovyle. However, Chimecho is unsure—because the Dimensional Scream cannot tell the difference between past and future, Grovyle may have already made off with the Time Gear. Dusknoir remains confident that it is of the future, as the partner had never heard Azelf's name before Dusknoir had mentioned it. Because there is a chance that the Dimensional Scream is describing the future, the Guild decides to have all hands search the cave. The team arrives at the lake in the middle of the cave, where they find Azelf about to be defeated by Grovyle. However, just as Grovyle is about to steal the Time Gear, Azelf activates a fail-safe trap. The trap covers the lake in crystals, preventing Grovyle from submerging underwater and reaching the Time Gear. This does not deter Grovyle, and the team is knocked unconscious and the partner is badly wounded. Before Grovyle can finish the partner off, Dusknoir appears. The team discovers that Dusknoir and Grovyle have been long acquainted, but before they can delve any further, Grovyle makes his getaway, and Dusknoir chases after the Pokémon. Just then, the Guild finds the team, and cart them back to the guild.

Some time later, the team reawakens back at the guild. The partner recalls the exchange between Dusknoir and Grovyle, and the information is shared with the Guild and Azelf. Just then, the Guild's emergency alarm sounds, requiring everyone to be in attendance at a town meeting. In town, they find Dusknoir, who reminds everyone that Grovyle is still at large. Dusknoir further claims that Grovyle is a Pokémon from the future—there, Grovyle was a criminal, who fled to the past to avoid being captured. He plots to steal the Time Gears, which in turn would freeze the world in time, thus causing the planet's paralysis. Water would not flow, the sun would not rise, the seasons would not change, and darkness would cover the world. When {{p|Corphish}} is curious as to why Dusknoir knows all of this, Dusknoir reveals that he, too, is from the future, sent back in time to capture Grovyle and bring him to justice. The Guild and townsfolk all agree to help Dusknoir stop Grovyle. Azelf has a plan to trap Grovyle—as the Time Gear in Crystal Lake still remains, they are certain that Grovyle will return for it. In order to lure Grovyle, the townsfolk spread a false rumor that the lake trio will try to seal the Time Gear away permanently, while the trio will be defending the Time Gear, awaiting the moment to make the jump on Grovyle. Although everyone wants to help, Dusknoir insists on doing so alone as to avoid suspicion.

A few days later, a report from Magnezone arrives, indicating that Grovyle has been captured, and that Dusknoir plans to take Grovyle back to the future to face justice. To do so, Dusknoir has opened a Dimensional Hole in the middle of town square. In town, the townsfolk find the Dimensional Hole, but no sign of Dusknoir. As the lake trio explain to the partner that the Time Gears were recovered and were returned, Dusknoir appears with Grovyle and two {{p|Sableye}}. As Grovyle is carted off into the Dimensional Hole, Dusknoir gives his farewell. But before he steps through the portal, he asks the player's team to step forward. When they step next to the portal, the partner explains a sad farewell, but then, Dusknoir suddenly grabs the team and drags them into the portal. Before the townsfolk can give chase, the Dimensional Hole closes and disappears suddenly.

===Escape from the future===
The player is woken up by the partner, who reveals that they have been locked in a cell. Just then, they encounter some guards—a group of {{p|Sableye}}. Six Sableye blindfold them and take them to another room, where they find themselves bound to a pole, awaiting execution. Along with the two is Grovyle, also tied up. Dusknoir appears, giving the orders to the Sableye to execute the three. Grovyle convinces the team to cooperate - while the Sableye to attack the ropes that tie them to the stake, there is a slight chance of breaking the ropes, and it may allow the three to escape. Fortunately, the ropes break free, and the three overwhelm the Sableye. This allows Grovyle to use a [[Luminous Orb]], and take the team to safety. Back outside, Grovyle reveals that they are indeed in the future, but despite the lake trio returning the Time Gears back to their original places, the planet has been paralyzed.

Continuing to elude the Sableye, the partner loses confidence on whether they will ever return home. The player then proposes to the partner to catch up to the Grovyle, and ask how he had traveled back to the past in the first place. They eventually catch up to Grovyle, and save him from the {{p|Spiritomb}} who had knocked him out earlier. Though Grovyle is reluctant to help them (because the partner still does not trust him), he proceeds to tell his side of the story. The world's paralysis dated back to the present day, with the collapse of the Temporal Tower, governed by {{mdc|Dialga|2}}, the legendary Pokémon that controls time. When the tower collapsed, Dialga lost control of time, and it too lost all control. Dialga turned berserk, becoming [[Primal Dialga]]. Seeking only self-preservation, Primal Dialga tried to prevent history from changing, and hence its need to exterminate Grovyle and the team. The partner is visibly shocked by this revelation—and even more so when Grovyle reveals that he collected the Time Gears to prevent the tower from collapsing. Grovyle continues, claiming that the time stop caused by the removal of the Time Gears is merely temporary—the area affected would return to normal once the gears were placed in Temporal Tower. Grovyle then further revealed that Dusknoir is an agent of Primal Dialga sent to stop him and the team, and had everyone in the past played for fools.

Though the partner does not believe Grovyle, the player believes that Grovyle's assertions are reasonable, and that the partner cannot seem to accept the truth. The partner even thought of going back to the stockade and ask Dusknoir to reveal the truth. Grovyle leaves to find {{mdc|Celebi|2}}, the time-traveling Pokémon, to start his mission anew. Although the player is determined to follow Grovyle, the partner is more reluctant. Nevertheless, the partner agrees to follow, if only to find a way to return to the present. The group eventually manages to find Celebi, who replied that the player is Grovyle's friend. However, Grovyle didn't hear what Celebi said, and before the team can react, Grovyle reminds the team to get a move on. Celebi leads the group to the Passage of Time—a secret corridor spanning multiple dimensions. However, before they can go through the passage, they are stopped by Dusknoir and the Sableye, who had caught up to them. Surrounded, the group has no choice but to overpower Dusknoir and the Sableye. However, when Primal Dialga appears, Grovyle, believing that they are outmatched, has no choice but to surrender. He contends that at least hope will remain, for he had not time traveled alone before. When he first traveled back to the past, he and his human partner had been separated. Dusknoir, however, believes otherwise, and forces Grovyle to tell the name of his partner - the player. The partner is surprised at this revelation—and Grovyle and Celebi are even more surprised that the player is standing with them. Grovyle refuses to believe that the player has been turned into a Pokémon, but Dusknoir had planned to eliminate the player and Grovyle, and had merely befriended the team and the Guild so as to destroy them all in one shot.

The partner is shocked by the revelation, partly because at one point they had idolized Dusknoir, and partly from sticking with the player. The partner has a plan to elude Dusknoir and his underlings—all that is needed is to have Celebi teleport them closer to the Passage. Although Celebi recognizes that Dialga could detect them, Celebi agrees to the partner's idea. They fail to escape Dusknoir, but they get to the Passage. Celebi implores the rest of the group to leave through the Passage, leaving Dusknoir to herself. It is believed that Celebi managed to elude capture as the group returned back to the present.

===Racing the clock===
Arriving back to the present, the partner explains that the beach that they are on was where the player was first found. However, before the partner can lead Grovyle back to the Guild to plan their next move, he reminds them that in the present time, Grovyle is a criminal. The partner, seeing the complications this may cause, instead takes the player and Grovyle to a cliff known as [[Sharpedo Bluff]] (named as the cliff is in the shape of a {{p|Sharpedo}}), which was the home of the partner prior to joining the Guild. That night, Grovyle explains to the partner the common history between himself and the player. The player and Grovyle had been a formidable team investigating the planet's paralysis. The player had the ability to perform the Dimensional Scream, but only in the presence of a trusted partner. Grovyle further explains that the Dimensional Scream is set off by triggers tied to places where Time Gears were hidden. The partner realizes that the player had a lot of trust in them, largely due to having witnessed the Dimensional Scream. However, the partner also realizes that perhaps Dimensional Screams had worked differently in the past, as the player had experienced them in incidents unrelated to Time Gears. In any event, the three quickly agree to plot a new plan to take the Time Gears.
Later, the partner shares their story of the Relic Fragment with Grovyle. Grovyle and the partner agree that the player has a connection to the both of them - the player had made each of them stronger. The trio redoubles their efforts to retake the Time Gears, starting with the one in Treeshroud Forest, where Grovyle had found the one unguarded. However, after arriving there, they find that, despite the presence of the Time Gear, time has stopped—a sign that [[Temporal Tower]] is already starting to collapse.

That night, back at Sharpedo Bluff, the partner reveals, after a fact-finding mission, that time in other places is also stopped, despite the return of the Time Gears. It appears that the only way to restore time is to take the Time Gears to Temporal Tower. This is easier said than done, though; the Tower is located in the [[Hidden Land]], and no one knows where the Hidden Land is. Desperate, and running out of options and time, the player convinces the partner to return back to the Guild. The Guild is surprised to find that the team has returned, but is more surprised when the team reveals their story. The Guild, though shocked at the revelations brought forth by the team, agrees to help retrieve the Time Gears, and tells the lake trio to allow Grovyle to reclaim the ones they guard. The team is recommended by Wigglytuff to see {{mdc|Torkoal|2}}, the town elder, for advice on finding the Hidden Land. At the hot springs, Torkoal reveals that the Hidden Land is a place beyond the oceans, but also a place which only appears to those with sufficient "proof". However, Torkoal does not recall what is needed for such "proof". The next day, however, Torkoal arrives at the Guild Hall with one new recollection—the "proof" is an inscription of a certain pattern—the same pattern found in the Relic Fragment. What is more surprising is that Wigglytuff and Chatot have also seen the same pattern—found in a distant place called [[Brine Cave]], where bandits had scared the two in an earlier adventure. Nevertheless, the Guild decides to make an expedition to Brine Cave. Meanwhile, the team hears word that Grovyle has taken all the Time Gears, but warns that Dusknoir may also return from the future to hunt them down.

The next day, The Guild (without Wigglytuff) arrives at Brine Cave, where they split up to reach the innermost part, with Chatot following the team. However, partway into the cave, they are ambushed by Team Skull, who steal the Relic Fragment. Though Chatot gives chase and manages to catch them, by the time the team manages to catch up, they find both Team Skull and Chatot severely wounded, due to themselves having been ambushed by two {{p|Omastar}} and {{p|Kabutops}}. After dispatching them, the team tend to Chatot. Just then, Wigglytuff and Grovyle arrive, with the rest of the Guild in tow. Wigglytuff is particularly concerned, as Chatot had been severely injured by the Omastar and Kabutops protecting Wigglytuff in their last trip to Brine Cave. Urging the team and Grovyle to continue, the Guild return home to tend to Chatot's wounds. Further in, the team discovers a rock wall pointing out to sea, on which is a wall pattern similar to the one found on the Relic Fragment. When the Relic Fragment is presented, a light shines out towards the sea. Just then, a {{mdc|Lapras|2}} arrives. At the same time, back at the Guild, Wigglytuff explains to the Guild the story of how he and Chatot had previously encountered the pattern on the Relic Fragment: Chatot had been injured by Omastar and Kabutops while protecting Wigglytuff. Though Wigglytuff had fended off the Omastar and Kabutops, he had felt helpless because he could not help Chatot. Just then, Lapras had appeared to help Chatot, on the condition that they not explore the wall pattern further. Back with the team, Lapras, while ferrying the team and Grovyle, explains that she is the gatekeeper to the Hidden Land, a land that exists in a different dimension—within a moment of time. The Hidden Land is as such because Dialga had feared that interference by exploration teams or bad Pokémon could affect the flow of time. Dialga had, however, left one key to entering the Hidden Land, within the Relic Fragment. Wigglytuff had known this, and had realized that the promise to Lapras could not be kept in the interests of saving the world, and thus had set off towards Brine Cave ahead of the Guild to find Lapras. Lapras explained to Wigglytuff then that the Relic Fragment chooses who may visit the Hidden Land, and it had chosen the partner due to the partner's purity of heart. Now, it lies upon the team to explore the land and save the world.

===Saving the world===
Arriving at the [[Hidden Land]], Lapras tells them that in order to reach the Temporal Tower, they must take the Rainbow Stoneship, located inside an old ruin. Finding the ruin, the partner is astounded at what they can find—pictures of legendary Pokémon {{p|Mew}}, {{p|Kyogre}}, {{p|Groudon}}, {{p|Dialga}}, and {{p|Palkia}} engraved on the wall. Proceeding further, they find a temple where, at the top, they find the Ruin Fragment pattern. The team discovers that the temple itself is the Rainbow Stoneship, and in order for the ship to operate, the Relic Fragment must be slotted in one of the indentations. But before the partner can do so, they are captured by Dusknoir and the Sableye entourage. Dusknoir takes their captives to a nearby Dimensional Hole, but before the team can be put through it, they overwhelm the Sableye, prompting Dusknoir to fight back. The team is able to defeat Dusknoir in battle, but while the partner goes to activate the Rainbow Stoneship, Dusknoir warns that should they succeed in their quest, the Pokémon of the future, including the player and Grovyle, will be erased from existence, because they are from a future that will no longer exist. Grovyle admits that this is the case, but that their sacrifice is worth the trouble if it means that the future can be saved. The player accepts this fate, even though the player knows that the partner will not take it as easily as the player or Grovyle.

Meanwhile, the partner succeeds in activating the Rainbow Stoneship, but Dusknoir manages to recover and attack the player before either the player or Grovyle is on board. Just as Dusknoir tries to finish off the player, Grovyle intervenes. In a move of desperation, Grovyle pushes Dusknoir towards the Dimensional Hole, hoping that in his own sacrifice, Grovyle will erase Dusknoir from existence. Dropping the Time Gears, Grovyle pushes Dusknoir and himself through the Dimensional Hole, but not without giving his last goodbye. The partner recovers the Time Gears, and the team proceed on the Rainbow Stoneship, with the player keeping silent to the partner about his/her fate. With a heavy heart, the team head towards Temporal Tower to take on their final mission.

Arriving at the top of Temporal Tower as the tower itself is collapsing, they find a mystical relic with five indentations. Before the partner slots in the Time Gears into the indentations, the team is attacked by none other than Primal Dialga, having just gone berserk. Realizing that there is no reasoning with Primal Dialga, the team prepare to battle it out to the end. After a long battle, Primal Dialga is defeated, and the partner takes the opportunity to install the Time Gears. The earthquakes destroying the tower eventually stop, and Dialga is restored back to normal. Dialga quickly uses its powers to restore the world back to normal, though Temporal Tower remains heavily damaged. Dialga explains that the world's paralysis has been prevented with the installation of the Time Gears, and that peace has been restored. Dialga says its thanks to the team, but also warns that the world can only be back to normal in time. Dialga shows the team out of the Temporal Tower, where the Rainbow Stoneship and Lapras are awaiting them for their ride home.

On the way back, the player feels the effects of being slowly erased from existence. The partner notices this, and wonders what is wrong. The player says his/her goodbyes, regretting that the partner was kept in the dark on the player's situation. The player slowly fades out of existence as the partner makes their tearful goodbye. The partner returns home, crying, but knowing that the player has made the partner stronger. Back home, the partner tells the townsfolk and the guild everything—how they had traveled across the [[Hidden Land]], how Grovyle and the player had sacrificed themselves, and how they had saved the world.

Months have passed since the incident. The damages from time have slowly been healed, and life has returned to normal for most... but not for the partner, still mourning over the player's disappearance. At the beach, the partner is taking a walk, when the partner is reminded of the player and their adventures together, and how now the player is gone—erased from existence. The partner collapses on the beach out of extreme sadness, and starts crying. The end credits roll at this point.

After the credits, Dialga feels the partner's great sorrow in the distance. Using its powers, Dialga brings the player back to life, as thanks for bringing it back in control. The player reappears at the beach, where the partner and Bidoof are crying, overjoyed to find the player alive.

===Post-game story===
As with previous games, there is a post-credits story. Several months after the player was brought back, {{mdc|Wigglytuff|2}} decides that the player's team is ready for an exam to qualify for graduation from the Guild (apparently only accepting one team per year). They are told to go find the treasure found in [[Luminous Spring]], a place where Pokémon used to go to evolve, but are also warned to avoid the "grand master of all things bad" who lives there with his minions. Although {{p|Loudred}} is not allowed to speak of the test, having taken it the year before, {{p|Ursaring}} and {{p|Teddiursa}}, two Treasure Town locals, claim of going to the springs before and meeting no such "Grand Master". Upon reaching the spring, the team run into Ursaring and Teddiursa and conclude that the "Grand Master" does not exist before falling into the lair of the "Grand Master", who turns out to be none other than Wigglytuff and the guild members (revealed by a slip up by {{mdc|Bidoof|2}}, who continues to deny it till the end). After defeating the whole guild, the team continues their journey with Ursaring and Teddiursa. They find that the treasure is actually a {{DL|Food (Mystery Dungeon)|Perfect Apple}} left in a chest by Wigglytuff himself (through the help of the player's [[Dimensional Scream]]). They also find the Luminous Spring to be able to evolve Pokémon again, as Teddiursa evolves into an Ursaring after she steps into the spring and made her choice to evolve. The team, however, is told by the voice of the spring that they couldn't evolve yet, due to time being distorted. Later, they return the treasure to the guild and graduate, finding that the only benefit is that they can explore on their own and change the group leader, but they still have to give most of their reward money to the guild. Having graduated, the team moves their headquarters to Sharpedo Bluff.

Then, {{p|Mr. Mime}} appears in Treasure Town stating the famous explorer {{p|Scizor}} has been missing in a place called the [[Blizzard Island]]. The team pays a visit and finds Scizor frozen solid by {{p|Froslass}}. After they rescue Scizor, Scizor gives the team the "[[Rank (Mystery Dungeon)|Secret Rank]]" which the team and everyone else knows nothing about. This rank is used for the 7 dungeons home to the great [[Seven Treasures]].

One day, the player finds Corphish at the Guild's intersection, saying to go talk to {{mdc|Sunflora|2}} about something. When Sunflora is found on the lower level, she says that there is a land that has recently become possible to enter. This dungeon is called the [[Surrounded Sea]], supposedly home to hundreds of rare treasures brought by the currents that run through it. At the end of Surrounded Sea, there are three Deluxe Boxes and a {{pkmn|Egg|Wonder Egg}}, along with a warp tile that will get the player out of the dungeon. The next morning, the Egg hatches into a {{p|Manaphy}}. The team goes to see Chatot, who says that Manaphy are extremely rare. This makes the team take extra good care of it. A day later, the team takes Manaphy for a walk by the beach, which makes baby Manaphy incredibly happy. That night, however, when the team is asleep, Manaphy stays up and longingly stares out at the sea, eventually resorting to go to the shore. When the team wakes and finds Manaphy missing in the morning, they run around in a panic, trying to find it. They finally find it at the beach, where it suddenly keels over in the sand. Once the team reports to Chatot, the bird says that Manaphy are really supposed to grow up in the ocean. However, Manaphy's current ailment could only be cured by the Phione Dew, located in [[Miracle Sea]]. At the end of the dungeon, there are six {{p|Phione}}, who are driven away suddenly by an enraged, treasure-seeking {{p|Gyarados}}. After defeating Gyarados, he runs away, and in their thanks, the Phione gives the player the Phione Dew. After Manaphy is cured and with a few days of rest, a Pokémon named {{p|Walrein}} is told by Chatot to take care of Manaphy under the sea. With a tearful farewell, Manaphy is taken to its home.

After the player saves Manaphy and after a couple of days of plain jobs, [[Team Charm]] pays a visit to the Guild. Team Charm consists of {{p|Lopunny}}, {{p|Medicham}}, and {{p|Gardevoir}}. This trio is legendary for their rank, which is the Master Rank, and for their style of treasure hunting. A former member, surprisingly, is Wigglytuff. Team Charm came because they're stuck on a hunt for treasure because they don't have a key. They ask Wigglytuff and Wigglytuff "claims" that he doesn't have it. But just before everyone thinks Team Charm will leave, Lopunny gives Wigglytuff a Perfect Apple and Wigglytuff finds the key with a big bang from his room. When Team Charm is leaving, everyone asks if they can go to the [[Aegis Cave]], including the player's team. Lopunny, the leader of Team Charm, agrees and says everyone can go after they open Aegis Cave with the key. The treasure of Aegis Cave is guarded by three legendary beings, {{p|Regice}}, {{p|Regirock}}, and {{p|Registeel}}. After defeating them, Team Charm assists the player in fighting {{p|Regigigas}}.

Later, {{mdc|Darkrai|2}} (disguised as {{p|Cresselia}}) appears in the player's dreams and tells the player that their continued existence is causing a distortion in space. On the night before going to {{mdc|Palkia|2}} for an explanation, Palkia itself attacks the team, spiriting them away to its domain, the [[Spacial Rift]]. They battle Palkia for answers, but it gets trapped in a nightmare. Darkrai (still disguised as Cresselia) tries to finish off the team using Palkia, but it is stopped by another Cresselia, who reveals that the first was an impostor by the name of Darkrai, who reveals itself to be the one distorting space. Although Darkrai invites the team to stop him, Cresselia thinks it is a trap, because normally Darkrai run away when found, doing its work in the shadows and only coming out to finish the job. The team decides to heed Darkrai's call, and Darkrai reveals his plans, by stopping time or space, the world would stop and be covered in darkness, and all Pokémon would share an everlasting nightmare, in which Darkrai would rule. In addition to this, Darkrai also reveals that he had been responsible for everything right from the beginning, from the collapse of Temporal Tower to the player's very own transformation and memory loss. Darkrai lets the team decide if they want to join him ruling the world in darkness. The player's partner decides that it's useless to resist, so he/she decides to join Darkrai, but it's not real. The player realizes this is just another illusion, and breaks free of it. With the partner back on the player's side, the team battles Darkrai and his minions and wins hopefully. Darkrai attempts to flee through a portal, but Palkia arrives and attempts to stop Darkrai from leaving by unleashing an attack on him. But instead of destroying him, he attacks the Dimensional Hole, thus erasing Darkrai's memories, much like what happened to the player. Darkrai has no more memory of his evil ambitions for good, and wanders the Pokémon world; his location is at that point unknown.

==Blurb==
Explore as a Pokémon in a world of Pokémon!

Discover secrets of Time and Darkness and form a team to explore the world!

Send out SOS Mails using Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection

==Characters==
===Playable characters===
In the beginning of the game, the player takes a quiz. The answers to these questions determine a nature that decides which Pokémon the player starts with. Certain characters are only available to players of a certain gender.
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! style="background:#{{md time color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" rowspan="2" colspan="2" | {{color2|000|Pokémon}}
! style="background:#{{md time color light}}" colspan="2" | {{color2|000|Nature}}
! style="background:#{{md time color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" rowspan="2" | {{color2|000|Pokémon.com}} description
|- style="background:#{{md time color light}}"
! style="background:#0070f8" | {{color2|000|Gender|Male}}
! style="background:#e82010" | {{color2|000|Gender|Female}}
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP001.png]]
! style="background:#{{grass color light}}" | {{pcolor|Bulbasaur|000}}
| Lonely || Docile || Bulbasaur's {{a|Overgrow}} Ability powers up {{type|Grass}} moves when it's weakened.
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP004.png]]
! style="background:#{{fire color light}}" | {{pcolor|Charmander|000}}
| Docile || Brave || This starter Pokémon wears its emotions on its tail—the flame on its tail, that is!
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP007.png]]
! style="background:#{{water color light}}" | {{pcolor|Squirtle|000}}
| Quirky || Bold || With its Water Terrain Ability, Squirtle can lead you across rivers and lakes!
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP025.png]]
! style="background:#{{electric color light}}" | {{pcolor|Pikachu|000}}
| Brave || Hasty || Pikachu is one of the starters you can choose from! We wonder if its Ability, {{a|Static}}, will come in to play?
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP052.png]]
! style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | {{pcolor|Meowth|000}}
| Sassy || Relaxed || If Meowth sees something Shiny, its eyes sparkle like jewels!
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP152.png]]
! style="background:#{{grass color light}}" | {{pcolor|Chikorita|000}}
| Calm || Quiet || Grass-type Pokémon like Chikorita can be found in forests.
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP155.png]]
! style="background:#{{fire color light}}" | {{pcolor|Cyndaquil|000}}
| Timid || Calm || Cyndaquil delivers a warm reception when it's angered or startled—its back erupts with fire!
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP158.png]]
! style="background:#{{water color light}}" | {{pcolor|Totodile|000}}
| Jolly || Sassy || Even its friends need to be careful of Totodile—it has a habit of biting anything with its developed jaws.
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP252.png]]
! style="background:#{{grass color light}}" | {{pcolor|Treecko|000}}
| Quiet || Hardy || After you battle in the [[Explorer Maze]], Treecko shows up to request a job.
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP255.png]]
! style="background:#{{fire color light}}" | {{pcolor|Torchic|000}}
| Hardy || Rash || Those who hug Torchic get an extra warm feeling because a fire burns inside its body!
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP258.png]]
! style="background:#{{water color light}}" | {{pcolor|Mudkip|000}}
| Rash || Lonely || Skilled in Water-type moves, Mudkip checks its surroundings using the fin on its head.
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP300.png]]
! style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | {{pcolor|Skitty|000}}
| Hasty || Naïve || Skitty is so adorable that its {{a|Cute Charm}} Ability can even infatuate its foes.
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP387.png]]
! style="background:#{{grass color light}}" | {{pcolor|Turtwig|000}}
| Bold || Timid || Turtwig is a Grass-type Pokémon. Will it be powerful in grassy areas?
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP390.png]]
! style="background:#{{fire color light}}" | {{pcolor|Chimchar|000}}
| Naïve || Impish || Using {{type|Fire}} moves with Chimchar will definitely help you out in a pinch.
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP393.png]]
! style="background:#{{water color light}}" | {{pcolor|Piplup|000}}
| Impish || Quirky || Piplup is friendly and enthusiastic. It will make a great Pokémon adventurer!
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#{{md darkness color light}}" | [[File:MDP446.png]]
! style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | {{pcolor|Munchlax|000}}
| Relaxed || Jolly || Let's hope Munchlax's hunger doesn't stop it from being a great adventurer.
|}
After the player's character is determined, they then choose their partner Pokémon. The partner can be any of the [[Starter Pokémon]] from the first four Generations, including {{p|Pikachu}}. However, the partner cannot be the same [[type]] as the player.

===Non-player characters===
{{main|List of Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time, Darkness, and Sky characters}}
====Guild====
[[File:Wigglytuff and Chatot.png|thumb|right|Wigglytuff and Chatot]]
* {{mdc|Wigglytuff|2}} - Leader of the Wigglytuff Guild.
* {{mdc|Chatot|2}} - Chatot is Wigglytuff's assistant, whom assigns jobs to the guild as a whole on a daily basis, as well as taking charge when Wigglytuff dozes off.
* {{mdc|Loudred|2}} {{tt|Description|By Pokemon.com}} - This Pokémon guards the guild entrance gate and wakes up the player in the morning.
* {{p|Diglett}} {{tt|Description|By Pokemon.com}} - Diglett assists Loudred; he identifies visitors by examining their footprints.
* {{p|Dugtrio}} {{tt|Description|By Pokemon.com}} - Calm and trustworthy, Dugtrio keeps the bulletin board current with the latest jobs.
* {{p|Chimecho}} {{tt|Description|By Pokemon.com}} - Chimecho runs the Chimecho Assembly and summons guild members when it's time to eat.
* {{p|Croagunk}} - Croagunk runs the guild's swap shop.
* {{mdc|Sunflora|2}} {{tt|Description|By Pokemon.com}} - Sunflora is always happy and seems to cheer people up easily. She is optimistic and keeps a journal by her bedside.
* {{p|Corphish}} {{tt|Description|By Pokemon.com}} - Corphish is very high-spirited and is usually quick to trust the player in high-stress situations. He has a tendency to start nearly all of his sentences with the phrase "Hey, hey!".
* {{mdc|Bidoof|2}} - Bidoof is the previous newest guild member, prior to the player's arrival. He, too, keeps a journal at his bedside. Bidoof also has a habit of saying "yup yup" and "by golly," similar to Corphish's manner of speaking.

====Treasure Town====
* {{p|Kangaskhan}} - As in previous Mystery Dungeon series, she will store items in [[Kangaskhan Storage]] for the player, though this time around there is a storage limit.
* {{p|Xatu}} {{tt|Description|By Pokemon.com}} - Xatu will tell you what's in your [[treasure box]]—for a price.
* {{p|Kecleon}} - As in previous Mystery Dungeon series, they run two shops, one for consumables, one for [[Wonder Orb]]s and [[TM]]s.
* {{p|Duskull}} - Operates the Duskull Bank, where the player can store their extra cash.
* {{p|Electivire}} - Electivire will [[Linked move|link moves]] and allow the player to relearn forgotten moves.
* {{p|Chansey}} {{tt|Description|By Pokemon.com}} - Chansey runs the Day Care, and she is happy to take care of your Egg until it hatches!
* {{p|Marowak}} {{tt|Description|By Pokemon.com}} - Marowak runs [[Marowak Dojo|the dojo]] where you can train and improve your battle skills.
* {{p|Magnezone}} {{tt|Description|By Pokemon.com}} - When you capture Pokémon fugitives, deliver them to Magnezone, the town sheriff.

====Exploration Teams====
* Team Razor Wind
** {{p|Zangoose}}
** {{p|Scyther}}
** {{p|Sandslash}}
* Team Seedgey
** {{p|Pidgey}}
** {{p|Seedot}}
* Team Glee
** {{p|Togepi}}
** {{p|Politoed}}
** {{p|Ledyba}}
* [[Team Skull]]
** {{p|Skuntank}}
** {{p|Koffing}}
** {{p|Zubat}}
* [[Team Charm]]
** {{p|Lopunny}}
** {{p|Gardevoir}}
** {{p|Medicham}}
* Team Tasty
** {{p|Swellow}}
** {{p|Wurmple}}
* Team Poochy
** {{p|Poochyena}} ×3
* Team Ebony
** {{p|Shuppet}}
** {{p|Murkrow}}
* Team Slacker
** {{p|Slakoth}}
** {{p|Slowpoke}}
* Team Flame
** {{p|Camerupt}}
** {{p|Ponyta}}
** {{p|Bellsprout}}
* [[Team AWD]] (Japanese: 盗賊団MAD ''Team MAD'')
** {{p|Arbok}}
** {{p|Weavile}}
** {{p|Drapion}}
* Team Raider
** {{p|Gallade}}
** {{p|Roserade}}
** {{p|Rhyperior}}

===Bosses===
While most of the Bosses in this game are the standard [[Legendary Pokémon|legendaries]], there are some average Pokémon added to the mix. Unlike previous Mystery Dungeon games, the player may encounter multiple opponents that appear in certain dungeons. These are the list of boss battles are the following Dungeon based on the storyline order.
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{md darkness color}}; border: 5px solid #{{md time color}}"
! colspan="2" | {{color2|{{md time color dark}}|Pokémon|Bosses}}
! {{color2|{{md time color dark}}|Level}}
! {{color2|{{md time color dark}}|Dungeon}}
|- rowspan="3" style="background: #{{md time color}}"
! colspan="4" | {{color|{{md darkness color dark}}|Main Story}}
|- style="background: #{{Poison color}}"
| [[File:MDP109.png]] [[File:MDP041.png]]
| ''{{pcolor|Koffing|000}}'' and ''{{pcolor|Zubat|000}}''
| 6 3
| {{color2|000|Beach Cave}} (Pit)
|- style="background: #{{Psychic color}}"
| [[File:MDP096.png]]
| {{mdc|Drowzee|2|c=000}}
| 12
| {{color2|000|Mt. Bristle}} (Peak)
|- style="background: #{{Ground color}}"
| [[File:MDP383.png]]
| {{pcolor|Groudon|000}} (Fake)
| 30
| {{color2|000|Steam Cave}} (16F) 
|- style="background: #{{Electric color}}"
| [[File:MDP405.png]] [[File:MDP404.png]]
| '''{{pcolor|Luxray|000}}''' and {{pcolor|Luxio|000}} ×8 {{color2|000|Amp Plains tribes}}
| 33 18
| {{color2|000|Amp Plains}} (20F) 
|- style="background: #{{Psychic color}}"
| [[File:MDP481.png]]
| {{pcolor|Mesprit|000}}
| 18
| {{color2|000|Quicksand Cave}} (B21F)
|- style="background: #{{Grass color}}"
| [[File:MDP253.png]]
| {{mdc|Grovyle|2|c=000}}
| 44
| {{color2|000|Crystal Crossing}} (B14F)
|- style="background: #{{Ghost color}}"
| [[File:MDP442.png]]
| {{pcolor|Spiritomb|000}}
| 37
| {{color2|000|Sealed Ruins}} (Deep)
|- style="background: #{{Rock color}}"
| [[File:MDP141.png]] [[File:MDP139.png]]
| '''{{pcolor|Kabutops|000}}''' {{pcolor|Omastar|000}} ×2
| 42 35
| {{color2|000|Brine Cave}} (Lower)
|- style="background: #{{Ghost color}}"
| [[File:MDP477.png]] [[File:MDP302.png]]
| '''{{mdc|Dusknoir|2|c=000}}''' {{pcolor|Sableye|000}} ×6
| 45 38
| {{color2|000|Hidden Land}} (Old Ruins)
|- style="background: #{{Steel color}}"
| [[File:MDP483P.png]]
| {{color2|000|Primal Dialga}}
| 48
| {{color2|000|Temporal Spire}} (Pinnacle)
|- rowspan="3" style="background: #{{md time color}}"
! colspan="4" | {{color|{{md darkness color dark}}|Post-Story}}
|- style="background: #{{Psychic color}}"
| [[File:MDP480.png]]
| {{mdc|Uxie|2|c=000}}
| 42
| {{color2|000|Steam Cave}} (16F)
|- style="background: #{{Psychic color}}"
| [[File:MDP481.png]]
| {{pcolor|Mesprit|000}}
| 42
| {{color2|000|Quicksand Cave}} (B21F)
|- style="background: #{{Psychic color}}"
| [[File:MDP482.png]]
| {{pcolor|Azelf|000}}
| 42
| {{color2|000|Crystal Crossing}} (B14F)
|- style="background: #{{Steel color}}"
| [[File:MDP483.png]]
| {{color2|000|Primal Dialga|Dialga}}
| 48
| {{color2|000|Temporal Spire}} (Pinnacle)
|- style="background: #{{Normal color}}"
| [[File:MDP040.png]]
| '''{{mdc|Wigglytuff|2|c=000}}''' {{color2|000|Wigglytuff's Guild|Wigglytuff Guild}}
| 50
| {{color2|000|Mystifying Forest}} (14F)
|- style="background: #{{Ice color}}"
| [[File:MDP478.png]]
| {{pcolor|Froslass|000}}
| 41
| {{color2|000|Crevice Cave}} (Pit) 
|- style="background: #{{Water color}}"
| [[File:MDP130.png]]
| {{pcolor|Gyarados|000}}
| 46
| {{color2|000|Miracle Sea|Deep Miracle Sea}} (4F)
|- style="background: #{{Normal color}}"
| [[File:MDP486.png]] [[File:MDP106.png]] [[File:MDP437.png]]
| '''{{pcolor|Regigigas|000}}''' {{pcolor|Hitmonlee|000}} ×4 {{pcolor|Bronzong|000}} ×4
| 49 35 35
| {{color2|000|Aegis Cave|Deep Aegis Cave}} (Regigigas's Chamber)
|- style="background: #{{Water color}}"
| [[File:MDP484.png]]
| {{mdc|Palkia|2|c=000}}
| 48
| {{color2|000|Spacial Rift}} (Bottom)
|- style="background: #{{Dark color}}"
| [[File:MDP491.png]] [[File:MDP306.png]] [[File:MDP024.png]] [[File:MDP219.png]] [[File:MDP467.png]] [[File:MDP429.png]] [[File:MDP464.png]]
| '''{{mdc|Darkrai|2|c=000}}''' {{pcolor|Aggron|000}} {{pcolor|Arbok|000}} {{pcolor|Magcargo|000}} {{pcolor|Magmortar|000}} {{pcolor|Mismagius|000}} {{pcolor|Rhyperior|000}}
| 53 36 36 36 36 35 36
| {{color2|000|Dark Crater}} (Bottom)
|}

==Wonder Mail exclusives==
Like the previous [[Mystery Dungeon]] games, some dungeons are unlocked through [[Wonder Mail]] codes. However, unlike those in the previous game, the bosses (listed below) are obtained through these codes. There is no reward, other than the treasure, for the Guardians of the [[Seven Treasures]]. They are all top-secret and self-deleting. {{p|Gabite}}'s is more like a normal Wonder Mail mission. To take any of these missions players must have gained Secret Rank, excluding the mission involving Gabite.

{| class="expandable roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{md time color}}; border: 5px solid #{{md darkness color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | {{color2|{{md darkness color dark}}|Pokémon}}
! colspan="3" | {{color|{{md darkness color dark}}|Wonder Mail Code}}
|- style="background: #fff"
| style="background: #{{ice color}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP144.png]]
| style="background: #{{ice color}}" rowspan="2" | {{pcolor|Articuno|000}}
| <code>4MP=</code>
| <code>K98#</code>
| <code>CT%Y</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| <code>R@--</code>
| <code>&P7%</code>
| <code>%K86</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| style="background: #{{psychic color}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP151.png]]
| style="background: #{{psychic color}}" rowspan="2" | {{pcolor|Mew|000}}
| <code>X%8S</code>
| <code>WYY+</code>
| <code>S-JF</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| <code>PFH@</code>
| <code>@##K</code>
| <code>5W8K</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| style="background: #{{water color}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP382.png]]
| style="background: #{{water color}}" rowspan="2" | {{pcolor|Kyogre|000}}
| <code>FN01</code>
| <code>HWN-</code>
| <code>00%F</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| <code>8678</code>
| <code>+XY@</code>
| <code>&%#3</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| style="background: #{{ground color}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP383.png]]
| style="background: #{{ground color}}" rowspan="2" | {{pcolor|Groudon|000}} (Real)
| <code>#&S6</code>
| <code>NY2&</code>
| <code>YJN=</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| <code>1P57</code>
| <code>F0MN</code>
| <code>MH7Y</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| style="background: #{{dragon color}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP384.png]]
| style="background: #{{dragon color}}" rowspan="2" | {{pcolor|Rayquaza|000}}
| <code>HW+8</code>
| <code>66%T</code>
| <code>5S51</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| <code>+J5Y</code>
| <code>4-K#</code>
| <code>H@P-</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| style="background: #{{dragon color}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP444.png]]
| style="background: #{{dragon color}}" rowspan="2" | {{pcolor|Gabite|000}}*
| <code>78SR</code>
| <code>-H2M </code>
| <code>P0+4</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| <code>Y6FY</code>
| <code>1&Y+</code>
| <code>#R9S</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| style="background: #{{fire color}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP485.png]]
| style="background: #{{fire color}}" rowspan="2" | {{pcolor|Heatran|000}}
| <code>FH0T</code>
| <code>HYNH</code>
| <code>R0QF</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| <code>86N8</code>
| <code>+SY@</code>
| <code>&%YN</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| style="background: #{{ghost color}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP487.png]]
| style="background: #{{ghost color}}" rowspan="2" | {{pcolor|Giratina|000}}
| <code>WNWY</code>
| <code>JXTK</code>
| <code>&5C1</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| <code>4N3-</code>
| <code>P4NM</code>
| <code>8K&C</code>
|-
| style="background:#{{md time color}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" colspan="5" | Notes:
* <nowiki>*</nowiki>: Gabite cannot be recruited.
|}

===Code-exclusive recruits===
The following Pokémon can be found only in the domains of the Guardians of the Seven Treasures.

'''[[Shimmer Desert]]''' (Groudon's Domain)
* {{p|Ekans}}
* {{p|Arbok}}
* {{p|Diglett}}
* {{p|Dugtrio}}

'''[[Sky Stairway]]''' (Rayquaza's Domain)
* {{p|Gastly}}
* {{p|Haunter}}
* {{p|Gengar}}
* {{p|Ditto}}
* {{p|Probopass}}
* {{p|Muk}}
* {{p|Raichu}}
* {{p|Steelix}}
* {{p|Drifloon}}
* {{p|Togekiss}}
* {{p|Claydol}}
* {{p|Forretress}}
* {{p|Metang}}
* {{p|Gabite}}
* {{p|Leafeon}}
* {{p|Tangrowth}}
* {{p|Shelgon}}
* {{p|Duskull}}
* {{p|Banette}}
* {{p|Misdreavus}}
* {{p|Magnemite}}
* {{p|Magneton}}
* {{p|Vulpix}}
* {{p|Rhydon}}

'''[[Mystery Jungle]]''' (Mew's Domain)
* {{p|Treecko}}
* {{p|Grovyle}}
* {{p|Sceptile}}
* {{p|Lopunny}}
* {{p|Victreebel}}

====Item-required bosses====
Some bosses will need the either the [[Mystery Part and Secret Slab|Mystery Part or Secret Slab]] in the player's bag while traversing certain dungeons.

{| class="expandable roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{md darkness color}}; border: 5px solid #{{md time color}}"
! colspan="2" | {{color2|{{md time color dark}}|Pokémon}}
! {{color2|{{md time color dark}}|Level}}
! {{color|{{md time color dark}}|Location}}
|- style="background: #{{Electric color}}"
| [[File:MDP145.png]]
| {{pcolor|Zapdos|000}}
| 49
| {{color2|000|Amp Plains}} (7F)
|- style="background: #{{Psychic color}}"
| [[File:MDP150.png]]
| {{pcolor|Mewtwo|000}}
| 50
| {{color2|000|Deep Aegis Cave}} (5F) {{color2|000|Dark Crater}} (6F) ({{color2|{{md darkness color}}|Darkness}} only)
|- style="background: #{{Electric color}}"
| [[File:MDP243.png]]
| {{pcolor|Raikou|000}}
| 46
| {{color2|000|Concealed Ruins}} (20F) 
|- style="background: #{{Fire color}}"
| [[File:MDP244.png]]
| {{pcolor|Entei|000}}
| 47
| {{color2|000|Deep Dark Crater}}(10F) 
|- style="background: #{{Psychic color}}"
| [[File:MDP249.png]]
| {{pcolor|Lugia|000}}
| 45
| {{color2|000|Surrounded Sea}} (18F)
|- style="background: #{{Fire color}}"
| [[File:MDP250.png]]
| {{pcolor|Ho-Oh|000}}
| 43
| {{color2|000|Mt. Mistral}} (19F)
|- style="background: #{{Psychic color}}"
| [[File:MDP251.png]]
| {{pcolor|Celebi|000}}
| 44
| {{color2|000|Mystifying Forest}} (10F) ({{color2|{{md time color}}|Time}} only)
|- style="background: #{{Dragon color}}"
| [[File:MDP380.png]]
| {{pcolor|Latias|000}}
| 44
| {{color2|000|Happy Outlook}} (19F) {{color2|000|Spacial Rift}} (10F)
|- style="background: #{{Dragon color}}"
| [[File:MDP381.png]]
| {{pcolor|Latios|000}}
| 44
| {{color2|000|Midnight Forest}} (24F) {{color2|000|Deep Spacial Rift}} (5F)
|- style="background: #{{Psychic color}}"
| [[File:MDP386.png]]
| {{pcolor|Deoxys|000}}
| 45
| {{color2|000|Shimmer Hill}} (17F)
|- style="background: #{{Dark color}}"
| [[File:MDP491.png]]
| {{pcolor|Darkrai|000}}
| 53
| {{color2|000|Miracle Sea}} (3F) {{color2|000|Lower Crevice Cave}} (2F) {{color2|000|Mt. Travail}} (17F) {{color2|000|Spacial Rift}} (14F) {{color2|000|Mystifying Forest}} (13F)
|}

===Miscellaneous NPCs===
* {{p|Krabby}} - They are the Pokémon that shoots out bubbles to the sky when sunset comes, it's really a great view!
* {{p|Grovyle}} {{tt|Description|By Pokemon.com}} - Who is Grovyle, and why is it hunting Time Gears?
* {{p|Vigoroth}} - Advertises the newest shops that open in Treasure Town.
* {{p|Spoink}} {{tt|Description|By Pokemon.com}} Spoink always has a spring in its step—until it loses its treasured pearl. Can you help?
* {{p|Marill}} {{tt|Description|By Pokemon.com}} Marill and his younger brother, Azurill, shop in Treasure Town. They might be looking for their Water Float.
* {{p|Azurill}} {{tt|Description|By Pokemon.com}} Azurill and his older brother, Marill, shop in Treasure Town. They might be looking for their Water Float.
* Celebi ({{Shiny}}) - A close friend of Grovyle in the future, and helps him to travel through time.
* {{p|Lapras}} - Does it know the secret of the Hidden Land?
* {{p|Torkoal}} - A very wise elder.
* {{p|Scizor}} - A legendary explorer until he disappeared while searching for a valuable treasure...
* {{p|Cresselia}} - She has been hunting Darkrai for years. Will she finally catch Darkrai?
* {{p|Manaphy}} - Manaphy has hatched from a mysterious Egg found at the surrounded sea.
* {{p|Phione}} - Phione are known for producing a dew that can act as a cure-all...

==Version-exclusive Pokémon==
Certain Pokémon are only in certain versions. However, if the {{player}} unlocks an exclusive Pokémon that is not from their version through [[Wonder Mail]], they will be in the same place they would be in the game they were originally exclusive to.

{| style="margin:auto"
|- style="vertical-align:top"
|
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{md time color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{md time color}}"
|-
! {{color|{{md time color dark}}|Time}}
|-
|
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{md time color light}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
{{Moveentrytm|012|Butterfree|2|Bug|Flying}}
{{Moveentrytm|251|Celebi|2|Psychic|Grass}}
{{Moveentrytm|415|Combee|2|Bug|Flying}}
{{Moveentrytm|417|Pachirisu|1|Electric|}}
{{Moveentrytm|447|Riolu|1|Fighting|}}
{{Moveentrytm|448|Lucario|2|Fighting|Steel}}
|}
|}
|
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{md darkness color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{md darkness color}}"
! {{color|{{md darkness color dark}}|Darkness}}
|-
|
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{md darkness color light}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="text-align:center"
{{Moveentrytm|015|Beedrill|2|Bug|Poison}}
{{Moveentrytm|150|Mewtwo|1|Psychic|}}
{{Moveentrytm|412|Burmy|1|Bug|}}
{{Moveentrytm|427|Buneary|1|Normal|}}
{{Moveentrytm|428|Lopunny|1|Normal|}}
{{Moveentrytm|479|Rotom|2|Electric|Ghost}}
|}
|}
|}

While Combee and Burmy are exclusive to Time and Darkness, respectively, their evolutions can be found in both versions. Mewtwo and Celebi can be obtained in the opposite version through a Wi-Fi mission.

===Wonder Mail codes===
{| class="expandable roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{md darkness color}}; border: 5px solid #{{md time color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" | {{color2|{{md darkness color dark}}|Pokémon}}
! colspan="3" | {{color|{{md darkness color dark}}|Wonder Mail Code}}
|- style="background: #fff"
| style="background: #{{md darkness color light}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP412.png]]
| style="background: #{{md darkness color light}}" rowspan="2" | {{pcolor|Burmy|000}}
| <code>XR2Y</code>
| <code>#==@</code>
| <code>JYX%</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| <code>3@2F</code>
| <code>Q8FQ</code>
| <code>R@M#</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| style="background: #{{md time color light}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP415.png]]
| style="background: #{{md time color light}}" rowspan="2" | {{pcolor|Combee|000}}
| <code>X5&F</code>
| <code>@YKQ</code>
| <code>0-70</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| <code>@FWH</code>
| <code>0FX&</code>
| <code>P8Y9</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| style="background: #{{md time color light}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP417.png]]
| style="background: #{{md time color light}}" rowspan="2" | {{pcolor|Pachirisu|000}}
| <code>1#0Y</code>
| <code>@8NS</code>
| <code>KXC5</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| <code>X=+3</code>
| <code>T+CP</code>
| <code>1T+X</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| style="background: #{{md darkness color light}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP427.png]]
| style="background: #{{md darkness color light}}" rowspan="2" | {{pcolor|Buneary|000}}
| <code>H+5M</code>
| <code>8JPY</code>
| <code>SKY+</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| <code>%43M</code>
| <code>SJ&Q</code>
| <code>Y#+2</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| style="background: #{{md time color light}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP447.png]]
| style="background: #{{md time color light}}" rowspan="2" | {{pcolor|Riolu|000}}
| <code>9@CP</code>
| <code>15N4</code>
| <code>FH&5</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| <code>-0%Y</code>
| <code>+91@</code>
| <code>#PCK</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| style="background: #{{md darkness color light}}" rowspan="2" | [[File:MDP479.png]]
| style="background: #{{md darkness color light}}" rowspan="2" | {{pcolor|Rotom|000}}
| <code>8HTR</code>
| <code>MY9+</code>
| <code>K6+@</code>
|- style="background: #fff"
| <code>NT=M</code>
| <code>9Q6R</code>
| <code>38@5</code>
|}{{-}}

==Version-exclusive items==
There are also certain items that are only available in certain versions.

===Exclusive to Time===
* {{DL|Seed|Vile Seed}} — Reduces Defense and Special Defense when eaten.
* {{DL|Wonder Orb|Foe-Hold Orb}} — An item that afflicts all enemies on the floor with the Petrified status condition.
* {{DL|Mystery Dungeon evolutionary items|Sun Ribbon}} — An item that is used for Pokémon that usually evolve in the daytime.

===Exclusive to Darkness===
* {{DL|Seed|Violent Seed}} — Boosts Attack and Special Attack stats when eaten.
* {{DL|Wonder Orb|Foe-Seal Orb}} — An item that afflicts all enemies in the room with a Paused status condition.
* {{DL|Mystery Dungeon evolutionary items|Lunar Ribbon}} — An Item used for Pokémon that usually evolve at nighttime.

==Dungeon Tips==
* If the player remains on one floor of a dungeon for too long, this will happen:
** It will say "Something is stirring".
** It will say "Something is approaching".
** It will say "It's coming closer."
** It will say "It's right near! It's gusting hard!" Then the player's character will faint and be kicked out of the dungeon, suffering the same conditions as if they were defeated (see below), and cannot be prevented in any way (even if they have Reviver Seeds in their bag) other than proceeding to the next floor before it happens. The amount of turns the player can stay on one floor before this happens varies depending on the dungeon.
* Pokémon with the Float terrain Ability who try to cross magma will get burned (unless they have the "All-Terrain Hiker" IQ skill or are also {{type|Fire}}), but for {{t|Water}} type and the lake parts, it will be able to cross.
* Fully evolved Pokémon can be recruited in the game. However, they will have lower recruit rates.
* If the player or their partner is defeated in a dungeon before the post-game story, the team exits the dungeon and all of the player's money and some of the player's items are lost.

==Staff==
{{main|Staff of Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team}}

==Trivia==
* Unlike the previous Mystery Dungeon games, which only had a few characters with confirmed genders, this game provides a gender for most of the characters. Even Legendary Pokémon, who are usually genderless in the main series games, have a gender in this game.
* The names of Temporal Tower and Spatial Rift are based directly off of the {{pkmn|category}} names of Dialga and Palkia, who are respectively the "Temporal Pokémon" and the "Spatial Pokémon". This is not the case in the Japanese version, however, where Spacial Rift is named Sky Fissure and Temporal Tower is named Dimension Tower.

==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{MD Time color}}|bordercolor={{MD Darkness color light}}
|ja=ポケモン不思議のダンジョン時の探検隊 ポケモン不思議のダンジョン闇の探検隊
|fr=Pokémon Donjon Mystère: Explorateurs de l'Ombre Pokémon Donjon Mystère: Explorateurs du Temps
|de=Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Erkundungsteam Zeit Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Erkundungsteam Dunkelheit
|it=Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Esploratori del Tempo Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Esploratori dell'Oscurità
|ko={{tt|포켓몬 불가사의 던전: 시간의 탐험대|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time}} {{tt|포켓몬 불가사의 던전: 어둠의 탐험대|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Darkness}}
|es=Pokémon Mundo Misterioso: Exploradores del Tiempo Pokémon Mundo Misterioso: Exploradores de la Oscuridad}}

==See also==
* [[Staff of Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Time and Darkness]]

==External links==
* [http://www.chunsoft.co.jp/games/pokedun2/index.html Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2 page on Chunsoft website] (Japanese)

==References==
<references/>

{{-}}
{{Spin-off series}} 
{{Project Sidegames notice}}

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[[Category:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|*]]
[[Category:Nintendo DS games]]
[[Category:Pokémon game crossovers]]

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[[zh:神奇宝贝不可思议的迷宫时之探险队·暗之探险队]]

User talk:Missingno. Master/Archive14

2012-07-15T01:34:19Z

Cela08: /* A rumor I heard */ new section

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== Generation I Text ==

You wouldn't happen to have a list of characters and HEX equivilants for Generation I on hand, would you? It does not seem to use standard ASCII, as searching one of the GenI games for the case-insensitive string "pallet" turns up nothing. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 22:23, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
:'fraid not. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 00:04, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
::[http://web.archive.org/web/20090428053805/http://glitchcity.info/biglist.htm This] helps for most letters. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:33, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

== do you mind? ==

If I use your "this user stalks the Recent changes" User Tag? [[User:Truthseeker4449|Truth]][[User talk:Truthseeker4449|seeker]][[Rayquaza (Pokémon)|4449]] 17:07, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
:It's not actually mine, it was made by {{u|TyraniThrone}}. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 17:37, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
::Oh okay [[User:Truthseeker4449|Truth]][[User talk:Truthseeker4449|seeker]][[Rayquaza (Pokémon)|4449]] 18:13, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

== Re: Celebi glitch ==

Thanks for the answers. I take it no one's actively working on the glitch now, then. Any chance I could get into contact with some of the people who were working with you? They might be willing to answer a few questions even if they're not actively researching it... Also, do you have any idea what Pelipper (I think that's the one) meant by "floating code" and "HEX event"? Thanks again. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] 02:12, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
:Nobody's actively working on it, not that I know of. And I guess it would be possible to get into contact with those people, I dunno. I didn't have as active a role in the research as I would have liked to, really. I don't talk to any of them anymore. As for what Pelipper meant, I've only been able to assume so far. Near as I can tell, he believes that some sort of event triggers Celebi's appearance, such as having some certain item, or doing some certain activity. I've never actually been able to work out what it could be. I wish I could be more help. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 03:43, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
::It's okay; what information you've collected here has been a pretty big help already. I guess I'll just keep searching around and see if I can find Pelipper or anyone. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] 04:47, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

== James ==

I took it off because James is not the first character to release a Pokémon, Ash was. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 23:01, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
:What Pokémon are you referring to exactly? Gyarados was released in EP016, Butterfree in EP021, then Primeape in EP025. Everything else that I checked came after. With that information, James was the first. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 23:07, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Oh sorry about that it was my mistake. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 23:12, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
:No biggie. Thanks for discussing it before it turned into an edit war. It wasn't listed on the [[Released Pokémon]] page either which was weird...but it's all fixed now. Have a nice day. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 23:18, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

== SandmanDp ==

I think you should block Sandman. We have been trying, but he is violating the code of conduct and talk page policy, and replying rudely just so he gets his way. [[User:Satoshi101|サトシ]] 22:51, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
:Would if I could. Unfortunately, I'm not a staff member, just someone trying to help. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:53, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
::OK, I'll ask an admin. [[User:Satoshi101|サトシ]] 22:54, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
:::How exactly was I violating the code of conduct? How was I violating talkpage policy when Pokegeek and Satoshi101 removed my talkpage comments FIRST?--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 22:56, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
::::'''I never removed your talkpage comments'''! -- ✔[[User:Poke.geek|'''Poké''']][[User talk:Poke.geek|'''.geek''']][[Special:Contributions/Poke.geek|™]]✔ 22:57, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
::::I didn't removed your talkpage comments except [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sabrina%27s_Haunter&diff=prev&oldid=1584300 this]. -- ✔[[User:Poke.geek|'''Poké''']][[User talk:Poke.geek|'''.geek''']][[Special:Contributions/Poke.geek|™]]✔ 22:59, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
::::Nice contradiction. You violated a rule and yet have not shown me how I violated one. I explained why I put that vote in. I did not change any votes, only added my own. There's nothing wrong with that--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 23:03, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
:::::You were submitting a vote on a poll you should know is closed. Attempting to affect the outcome. Even if you didn't intend it that way, that's how it comes across to everyone else. And even if that wasn't a violation of the rules, the removal of talk page comments, the edit warring, and the rudeness certainly are. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 23:04, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
:::::Attempting to affect an election outcome is what voting is about. That's not tampering. I was not being rude. I did not violate the code of conduct. I did not start an edit war. --[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 23:06, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
::::::You were trying to affect the outcome AFTER the voting period had passed! Do you not understand that? You. Cannot. Vote. After. Voting. Is. Closed! That is tampering. Calling people hypocrites for trying to help you follow the rules kinda is rude. Being rude violates the code of conduct. And continually removing the same thing from a page over and over again, which you did, is edit warring. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 23:08, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

== Linking ==

Hey, please be sure to use the proper [[LLT|link template]] when linking to a specific page. It's generally good etiquette, and it avoids linking to a redirect, or a disambiguous page. Thanks. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 17:18, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
:Gotcha, sorry about that. I'm usually pretty good about using link templates, not sure why I did that. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 17:20, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
::No problem. We all make mistakes. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 17:38, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

== Just asking ==

Just asking, is it really necessary to include that you pick your nose as a usertag?--Chowolun 23:11, 25 February 2012 (UTC) [[User:Lucario985]]

== Great Ideas ! ==

Good evening fellow Bulbapedian. I wish to congratulate you on most of your new Pokémon ideas. Have you ever considered submiting some of them to Satoshi ?--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 20:49, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

== signature ==

I am very curious about your signature (the one that says ''unsigned comment from'' every time). Is that your real signature or something because it is usually mistaken as unsigned? [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 02:40, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
:It's my real signature. I made it to look exactly like what the "unsigned" template would produce. The way to tell is that the real unsigned template doesn't leave a timestamp; my signature does. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 03:44, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
::It looks like you didn't forget to sign after all. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 04:47, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

== Serebii as a source ==
Mr. Merrick has insisted that we do not use his site as a source personally. That is why we can't use it, no matter how accurate his inside information may be. i personally think we should either ask Mr. Merrick to re-evaluate his decision, or have our own translators see if it matches up. But the admins may decide it should not be mentioned because of the possibility's speculative nature. It'd be best to wait for an official source, IMO.--[[User:Muk-a-matic|Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round...]] 00:50, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
:Ah, OK. But still, the translation of the preview didn't come from the site itself, a member of the site translated the preview and posted the translation on the forums. There ''is'' a difference, just saying. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 00:53, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

== A rumor I heard ==

I have a rumor for your missingno rumors page. I have heard many rumors about Missingno in future generations, not to mention one even stupider: "OmG deRe b0th GLiTCHz SO daT mEanS meW is MISSINGNO!!!! L0L!". I mean, really?!

Coin Case glitches

2012-01-19T18:36:49Z

Cela08:

{{cleanup}}
{{incomplete}}
This article is about the glitches involving the [[Coin Case]] in {{v|Gold and Silver|s}}. They all involve listening to a Pokémon's [[cry]] then immediately using the Coin Case. Depending on the Pokémon's cry listened to, one of several effects will be activated; either the game will restart with an altered color scheme and possibly blocks of color placed on the screen ("Glitch Dimension" and "Shadow Puppets"), the game will freeze, or "Coin Case:" and a glitch phrase will be displayed ("which move?he PP of", etc.).

==Glitches caused by each Pokémon cry==
{| {| align="center" style="background: #{{unknown color light}}; {{roundy|1em}}; border: 5px solid #{{unknown color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" align="center" class="sortable" style="background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{unknown color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{unknown color light}};"
! Pokémon
! Effect
|-
|Bulbasaur
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Ivysaur
|*which move?PP of
|-
|Venusaur
|*which move?
|-
|Charmander
|*†which move?he PP of
|-
|Charmeleon
|*†which move?he PP of
|-
|Charizard
|*which move?
|-
|Squirtle
|*†which move?he PP of
|-
|Wartortle
|*†which move?he PP of
|-
|Blastoise
|*which move?
|-
|Caterpie
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Metapod
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Butterfree
|*†which move?he PP of
|-
|Weedle
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Kakuna
|Glitch dimension
|-
|Beedrill
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Pidgey
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Pidgeotto
|*which move?
|-
|Pidgeot
|*which move?
|-
|Rattata
|*which move?
|-
|Raticate
|*which move?
|-
|Spearow
|*which move?
|-
|Fearow
|*which move?
|-
|Ekans
|*†which move?he PP of
|-
|Arbok
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Pikachu
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Raichu
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Sandshrew
|which move?he PP of
|-
|Sandslash
|*which move?
|-
|Nidoran♀
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Nidorina
|Glitch dimension
|-
|Nidoqueen
|???
|-
|Nidoran♂
|*which move?
|-
|Nidorino
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Nidoking
|*which move?
|-
|Clefairy
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Clefable
|???
|-
|Vulpix
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Ninetales
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Jigglypuff
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Wigglytuff
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Zubat
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Golbat
|*which move?
|-
|Oddish
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Gloom
|*which move?he PP of
|-
|Vileplume
|*which move?
|-
|Paras
|Glith Dimension
|-
|Parasect
|???
|-
|Venonat
|which move?PP of
|-
|Venomoth
|???
|-
|Diglett
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Dugtrio
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Meowth
|???
|-
|Persian
|???
|-
|Psyduck
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Golduck
|???
|-
|Mankey
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Primeape
|which move?PP of
|-
|Growlithe
|which move?PP of
|-
|Arcanine
|???
|-
|Poliwag
|which move?
|-
|Poliwhirl
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Poliwrath
|???
|-
|Abra
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Kadabra
|which move?
|-
|Alakazam
|???
|-
|Machop
|Glitch dimension
|-
|Machoke
|Glitch dimension
|-
|Machamp
|Glitch dimension
|-
|Bellsprout
|Glitch dimension
|-
|Weepinbell
|???
|-
|Victreebel
|???
|-
|Tentacool
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Tentacruel
|which move?
|-
|Geodude
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Graveler
|which move?
|-
|Golem
|???
|-
|Ponyta
|which move?
|-
|Rapidash
|???
|-
|Slowpoke
|which move?
|-
|Slowbro
|???
|-
|Magnemite
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Magneton
|???
|-
|Farfetch'd
|???
|-
|Doduo
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Dodrio
|???
|-
|Seel
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Dewgong
|which move?
|-
|Grimer
|which move?
|-
|Muk
|which move?
|-
|Shellder
|???
|-
|Cloyster
|???
|-
|Gastly
|which move?
|-
|Haunter
|which move?PP of
|-
|Gengar
|which move?
|-
|Onix
|which move?
|-
|Drowzee
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Hypno
|???
|-
|Krabby
|Glitch dimension
|-
|Kingler
|???
|-
|Voltorb
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Electrode
|Blackout
|-
|Exeggcute
|???
|-
|Exeggutor
|???
|-
|Cubone
|???
|-
|Marowak
|???
|-
|Hitmonlee
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Hitmonchan
|???
|-
|Lickitung
|???
|-
|Koffing
|???
|-
|Weezing
|???
|-
|Rhyhorn
|???
|-
|Rhydon
|???
|-
|Chansey
|???
|-
|Tangela
|???
|-
|Kangaskhan
|???
|-
|Horsea
|???
|-
|Seadra
|???
|-
|Goldeen
|???
|-
|Seaking
|???
|-
|Staryu
|???
|-
|Starmie
|???
|-
|Mr. Mime
|???
|-
|Scyther
|???
|-
|Jynx
|???
|-
|Electabuzz
|???
|-
|Magmar
|???
|-
|Pinsir
|???
|-
|Tauros
|???
|-
|Magikarp
|???
|-
|Gyarados
|???
|-
|Lapras
|???
|-
|Ditto
|???
|-
|Eevee
|???
|-
|Vaporeon
|???
|-
|Jolteon
|???
|-
|Flareon
|???
|-
|Porygon
|???
|-
|Omanyte
|???
|-
|Omastar
|???
|-
|Kabuto
|???
|-
|Kabutops
|???
|-
|Aerodactyl
|???
|-
|Snorlax
|???
|-
|Articuno
|???
|-
|Zapdos
|???
|-
|Moltres
|???
|-
|Dratini
|???
|-
|Dragonair
|???
|-
|Dragonite
|???
|-
|Mewtwo
|???
|-
|Mew
|???
|-
|Chikorita
|???
|-
|Bayleef
|???
|-
|Meganium
|???
|-
|Cyndaquil
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Quilava
|which move?
|-
|Typhlosion
|which move?
|-
|Totodile
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Croconaw
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Feraligatr
|???
|-
|Sentret
|???
|-
|Furret
|???
|-
|Hoothoot
|???
|-
|Noctowl
|???
|-
|Ledyba
|???
|-
|Ledian
|???
|-
|Spinarak
|▓0
|-
|Ariados
|???
|-
|Crobat
|???
|-
|Chinchou
|???
|-
|Lanturn
|???
|-
|Pichu
|???
|-
|Cleffa
|???
|-
|Igglybuff
|???
|-
|Togepi
|???
|-
|Togetic
|???
|-
|Natu
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Xatu
|Glitch Dimension
|-
|Mareep
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Flaaffy
|‡Glitch Dimension
|-
|Ampharos
|???
|-
|Bellossom
|???
|-
|Marill
|???
|-
|Azumarill
|???
|-
|Sudowoodo
|???
|-
|Politoed
|???
|-
|Hoppip
|???
|-
|Skiploom
|???
|-
|Jumpluff
|???
|-
|Aipom
|???
|-
|Sunkern
|???
|-
|Sunflora
|???
|-
|Yanma
|???
|-
|Wooper
|???
|-
|Quagsire
|???
|-
|Espeon
|???
|-
|Umbreon
|???
|-
|Murkrow
|???
|-
|Slowking
|???
|-
|Misdreavus
|???
|-
|Unown
|???
|-
|Wobbuffet
|???
|-
|Girafarig
|???
|-
|Pineco
|???
|-
|Forretress
|???
|-
|Dunsparce
|???
|-
|Gligar
|???
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|Steelix
|???
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|Snubbull
|???
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|Granbull
|???
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|Qwilfish
|???
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|Scizor
|???
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|Shuckle
|???
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|Heracross
|???
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|Sneasel
|???
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|Teddiursa
|???
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|Ursaring
|???
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|Slugma
|???
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|Magcargo
|???
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|Swinub
|???
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|Piloswine
|???
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|Corsola
|???
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|Remoraid
|???
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|Octillery
|???
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|Delibird
|???
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|Mantine
|???
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|Skarmory
|???
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|Houndour
|???
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|Houndoom
|???
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|Kingdra
|???
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|Phanpy
|???
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|Donphan
|???
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|Porygon2
|???
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|Stantler
|???
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|Smeargle
|???
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|Tyrogue
|???
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|Hitmontop
|which move?
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|Smoochum
|???
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|Elekid
|???
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|Magby
|???
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|Miltank
|‡Glitch Dimension
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|Blissey
|???
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|Raikou
|???
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|Entei
|???
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|Suicune
|???
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|Larvitar
|???
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|Pupitar
|???
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|Tyranitar
|???
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|Lugia
|???
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|Ho-Oh
|which move?
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|Celebi
|???
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|??????????
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An asterisk by an effect means that the text is displayed in a dialogue box one line under "Coins:".

"†" (a dagger)in addition to an asterisk by an effect means that the text goes over the edge of the dialogue box.

"‡" (double daggers) by an effect means that a special version of the "Glitch Dimension" is started, dubbed "Shadow Puppets" or called the "Shadow Puppet Effect".

In "▓0", 0 is replaced by the number of coins you have.

== Display Alterations ==

Glitch Dimension:

When accessed, the game restarts in what appears as an altered color scheme. This is particularly evident in the beginning cutscene/intro movie. The entire (apparently) game can be played as normal. When the player talks to a character, gets on his bike, goes through a door/portal, opens the menu, or does any other action affecting his sprite (though not necessarily changing it), a purple block is generated depending on the position of the player. At other times, seemingly randomly, blocks of color will be generated. For example, after flying to Cinnabar Island and Surfing downwards, the water will be blue, red and green in different places. Battles will be conducted with the colors of the HP bar, names, Pokémon, and Trainers altered, and with blocks of purple. Interestingly, the blocks seem to slide across the screen as the battle begins (at the point where the stat areas and Trainer slide into view). In towns, houses, routes, etc., blocks fo color can be made to disappear by moving so that they move offscreen. The blocks appear to not be just a display problem, because they scroll with the map. This is apparently caused by the game thinking that it is being played on a Classic Game Boy.
{{Youtubevid|P-aK0sOXGdc|Zachtheglitchbuster|Gold}}

Shadow Puppets:

The screen is white, except for sprites and the Game Freak Logo in the beginning. The sprites are either black, an extremely darkened version of themselves, or dark blue. Sometimes an already-dark sprite will become white. Sprites with areas of high contrast (near black near white combinations) will appear partially black and partially white. Menus do not appear, but it is possible to navigate through them by memory. When viewing the PokéGear only an arrow pointing upwards is visible in the upper-left corner. During battles, the images of the Pokémon are not visible, but the blacked-out move graphics are. The specific cause of this is unknown, but is probably related to the cause of the Glitch Dimension.
{{Youtubevid|dhlTC52Utx8|Gligar13Vids|Gold}}

==Changes in Beginning Cutscene==
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|Pink with blue tongues
|Black
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|Lapras
|Blue with blue-white shell
|Pinkish-Red with light pink shell
|Black
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|Magikarp
|Red
|Blue
|Black
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|Pikachu
|Yellow, red cheek pouches
|Yellow, red cheek pouches (no visible change)
|Black
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|Jigglypuff
|Purple
|Purple (no visible change)
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|Totodile
|Light blue
|Pink
|Black
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|Chikorita
|Green
|Light orange
|Black
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|Cyndaquil
|Orange and black with red flames
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|Black with white detail
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|Charizard
|Red
|Blue
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|Gold
|Silver
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|Ho-oh Silhouette
|Black
|Red with pink wing tips
|Black
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|Sparkles from silhouette
|Yellow
|Purple
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|Yellow with blue border
|Dark yellow with blue border and green shadow
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{{Glitches}} 
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[[Category:Glitches]]

PokéGods

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'''PokéGods''' is a term used to refer to a certain group of [[fake Pokémon]]. The term was in popular use among fans in the late 1990s and into the new millennium, as the {{2v2|Gold|Silver}} versions were in development. The concept was very much discussed and disputed over on various forum websites at the time, and many edited screenshots were passed off as real to try to "prove" the case.

Most PokéGods were said to be near-invincible, while a few were only considered hidden, "bonus" Pokémon. Codes and cheats to obtain these Pokémon were widely distributed. The cheats usually involved doing odd tasks that could take hours at a time, such as beating the [[Pokémon League]] a predetermined number of times, usually with set Pokémon.

==Origin==
Rumors of the so-called "PokéGods" are thought to have originated with {{p|Mew}}, the mysterious Pokémon about whom very little was known at the time. The lack of information led to speculation and rumors on how to obtain Mew, including the infamous {{DL|S.S. Anne|Rumors|truck rumor}}.

Similar rumors circulated as new [[Generation II]] Pokémon began to be revealed ({{p|Marill}} in particular), resulting in fans declaring these new Pokémon to be PokéGods. Rumors spread of other PokéGods with no basis in fact as well; most were evolutions of already fully-evolved Pokémon, or different versions of existing Pokémon. Fake cheats and codes for obtaining these PokéGods in {{2v2|Red|Blue}} versions were widely distributed for years, even after the release of {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}.

==List of PokéGods==
Many different PokéGods surfaced among the rumors, from various different origins. A list of the most well-known ones can be found below.

===Real Pokémon dubbed as PokéGods===
*{{p|Mew}}
*{{p|Marill|Pikablu}}, thought to be a {{type2|Water}} evolution of {{p|Pikachu}} or {{p|Raichu}}
*{{p|Togepi}}
*{{p|Ampharos|Denryu}}
*{{p|Ho-Oh|Houou}}
*{{p|Bellossom|Kireihana}}

===Evolutions of previously-existing Pokémon===
*'''Sapusaur''' or '''Sapsaur''', assumed evolution of {{p|Venusaur}}
*'''Charcolt''', assumed evolution of {{p|Charizard}}
*'''Rainer''', assumed evolution of {{p|Blastoise}}
*'''Nidogod''', assumed evolution of {{p|Nidoking}}
*'''Nidogoddess''', assumed evolution of {{p|Nidoqueen}}
*'''Pikaflare''' or '''Flarachu''', assumed {{type2|Fire}} evolution of {{p|Pikachu}} or {{p|Raichu}}
*'''Pikabud''', assumed {{type2|Grass}} evolution of {{p|Pikachu}} or {{p|Raichu}}
*'''Locustod''', assumed evolution of {{p|Butterfree}}
*'''Beepin''', assumed evolution of {{p|Beedrill}}
*'''Raticlaw''', assumed evolution of {{p|Raticate}}
*'''Pearduck''', assumed evolution of {{p|Golduck}}
*'''Flareth''' or '''Flarith''', assumed evolution of {{p|Flareon}}
*'''Lunareon''', assumed evolution of {{p|Eevee}}
*'''Solareon''', assumed evolution of {{p|Eevee}}
*'''Sandswipes''', assumed evolution of {{p|Sandslash}}
*'''Spooky''', assumed evolution of {{p|Gengar}}
*'''Corona Mew''' (among other variations of the name), assumed evolution of {{p|Mew}}
*'''Mewthree''', assumed evolution of {{p|Mewtwo}}

===PokéGods with no canon basis===
*'''Millenium'''
*'''Anthrax'''
*'''Mysterio'''
*'''Apocalypse'''
*'''Ruin'''
*'''Psybir'''
*'''Psybird''', evolution of Psybir
*'''Doomsay'''
*'''Doomsday'''
*'''Tricket'''
*'''Hifishi'''

===Other PokéGods===
Some [[glitch Pokémon]] were also sometimes referred to as "PokéGods". Additionally, one other well-known "PokéGod" was '''Venustoise''', which originally appeared in ''[[EP020|The Ghost of Maiden's Peak]]'' as a gag. Another said "PokéGod" was Yoshi, despite the fact that he is not even a [[Pokémon]].

==Related items==
===Mist Stone===
Also, there was a rumor about the Mist Stone, an item that was said to evolve every single Pokémon, and there were many different ways to obtain it. One rumor was that having six PokéGods in the [[party]] and buying 99 of each [[evolutionary stone]] will allow the player to obtain the Mist Stone.

==External Links==
*[http://www.blue-reflections.net/ragecandybar/projects/pokegods/ RAGECANDYBAR's PokéGods project]

{{Project Fandom notice}}

[[Category:Fake Pokémon]]

EP020

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broadcast_jp=August 12, 1997 |
broadcast_us=October 2, 1998 |
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ja_ed=[[One Hundred Fifty-One|ひゃくごじゅういち]] |
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'''The Ghost of Maiden's Peak''' (Japanese: '''ゆうれいポケモンとなつまつり''' ''Ghostly Pokémon and the Summer Festival'') is the 20th episode of the [[Pokémon anime]]. It was first broadcast in Japan on August 12, 1997 and in the United States on October 2, 1998.

{{spoilers}}
==Synopsis==
In the beginning of the episode, {{Ash}} and {{Ashfr|friends}} are traveling by a ferry from the holiday resort of [[Porta Vista]] to [[Maiden's Peak]]. Ash notes that they're going to land soon, but {{an|Brock}} moans that he doesn't care about seeing land again as he has missed the summer season and has to wait a whole year for the next one.

After docking, they find out that they've just arrived there at the time of the annual Summer Ending Festival. When they decide to go and enjoy it, Brock sees a beautiful girl up the distant cliff. He immediately falls in love with her, but after being run over by a group of tourists he notices that the girl has disappeared. {{AP|Pikachu}} seems to notice that the girl is actually a {{p|Gastly}}, but Ash and Misty seem not to notice her at all.

As usual, {{TRT}} follows Ash and company to Maiden's Peak. They come up with an idea to look around for dropped coins, and while pondering it, [[James]] sees the same girl Brock saw before, only by the water. [[Jessie]] slaps James to regain his attention. As they leave to look for the coins, James takes a final look at the dock, noticing the disappearance of the girl.

During the festival, Ash, Misty and Brock meet an old lady who warns them that they should be aware as the young, beautiful girl will lead them to a cruel fate. After the old lady calls Misty a scrawny blabbermouth, she decides that they should be somewhere else instead of being insulted.

Meanwhile, Team Rocket puts their plan into action, though they do not seem to find anything. Then James notices a penny lying on the walkway, but as he approaches it he is interrupted by the old lady, which Ash and company met just a moment ago. As in the case of Brock, she mentions the young girl to James. Then an [[Officer Jenny]] appears and takes away the coin James found. When she suggests that they go down to the station with her to fill out a report, Team Rocket stammers that it's all right, they don't need to go down to the station, and then they flee the scene.

Both Ash's crew and Team Rocket head for the Shrine of the Maiden. They see the shrine's greatest treasure, the painting of the maiden. Brock and James both realize that the girl in the painting is the same girl they saw before, and both attempt to approach the painting but are blocked by the man presenting the painting to the audience. He then tells the story of the maiden, who waited on the cliff for her loved one to return from the war, and eventually turning into stone.

The two groups go to take a closer look at the aforementioned cliff, and {{MTR}} formulates a plan to steal the painting with the intention of selling it for a lot of money. They decide to swipe the painting later that evening. As night falls, Brock is still at the cliff. Misty tries to make him forget the stone so they can go back and enjoy the festival, but Brock insists on staying a little bit longer, so Ash and Misty leave him sitting there. When it's about time for the local [[Pokémon Center]] to lock the doors for the night, Brock still hasn't returned from the cliff, unlike they had planned. Ash decides to go look for Brock, but [[Nurse Joy]] holds him back, giving Ash a short lecture on the importance of sleep.

In the middle of the night, Meowth tries to wake up Jessie and James so they can try to steal the painting, but the two are not very eager to wake up. Suddenly a strong wind starts blowing, and the doors of the Maiden's Shrine are blown open. The ghost of the maiden floats out from the inside, causes Meowth to fall asleep and then wakes up James. She also shows herself to Brock, telling him that she's been waiting for him. Brock replies that he has been waiting, too.

Ash and Misty start looking for Brock on the next morning, while Meowth and Jessie start looking for James. Ash and Jessie then meet face-to-face and notice that they both are looking for a missing person. Jessie performs the Team Rocket motto all alone, but then they hear James saying his lines. James is thrown from inside the shrine, followed by Brock. As they try to get Brock and James back to normal, the old lady appears again, reminding them of her warning about the ghost of the maiden. Ash's Pikachu shocks James and Brock to get them back to normal.

They get inside, and the old lady states that all young men have fallen into the curse while passing through Maiden's Peak. They decide to protect themselves from the ghost by buying a bunch of anti-ghost stickers and sticking them around the shrine and the two cursed ones. However, when the night comes, they note that the stickers do not work, and like on the previous night, the ghost of the maiden appears. Ash and others try to prevent Brock and James from being pulled out by the maiden.

After being shot with a bazooka by Jessie, the ghost of the maiden summons several skull-like ghostly apparitions. Ash tries to identify them with his [[Pokédex]] with no result. However, he accidentally points the Pokédex at the ghost of the maiden, and Pokédex identifies her as a {{p|Gastly}}. Since Gastly's disguise has been revealed, it transforms back to its normal form. Ash then challenges it to a {{pkmn|battle}}.

Ash commands Pikachu to start the battle, but Gastly summons a living mouse trap to scare Pikachu off. Meowth states that mouse traps don't work on him, but Gastly summons a ball for him to play with, distracting him. Jessie then sends out {{TP|Jessie|Ekans}}, only for it to be scared off by Gastly's newly summoned mongoose. James commands his {{TP|James|Koffing}} to attack with the {{m|Poison Gas}} attack, but the mongoose stomps it down.

Ash decides it's his turn to try again and calls out {{AP|Charmander}}. Gastly summons a fire extinguisher, and Ash has to call Charmander back, mainly because Charmander was too busy running from the water to battle. He then calls out both {{AP|Squirtle}} and {{AP|Bulbasaur}}, but Gastly summons a {{p|Venusaur}} and a {{p|Blastoise}}, which causes Ash's Pokémon to get too scared to do anything, and just because it thinks it's fun, it combines them into a hybrid called Venustoise. After repeatedly being beaten by Gastly, Misty tries another strategy. She uses a cross, garlic, a stake, and a hammer, comparing Gastly to a vampire. However, the sun starts to rise once again, and as Gastly hates sunlight, it disappears, saying that the ghost of the maiden and the old woman will return next years festival.

On the following night, the festival continues on. Ash and friends have fun, and everything is back to normal. As the episode ends, the true ghost of the Maiden emerges from her stone self, thanking Gastly for keeping her legend alive in the town.

==Major events==
*[[James's Koffing]] is revealed to know {{m|Poison Gas}}.
{{animeevents}}

===Debuts===
====Pokémon debuts====
*{{p|Gastly}}

==Characters==
===Humans===
[[File:Dare da EP020.png|thumb|right|200px|{{tt|Dare da?|Who's That Pokémon?}}]]
* {{Ash}}
* {{an|Misty}}
* {{an|Brock}}
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]
* [[Ghost of Maiden's Peak]]
* [[Officer Jenny]]
* [[Nurse Joy]]

===Pokémon===
[[File:WTP EP020.png|thumb|right|200px|Who's That Pokémon?]]
[[File:Venustoise.png|thumb|right|150px|Venustoise]]
[[Who's That Pokémon?]]: {{p|Gastly}}
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Bulbasaur}} ({{OP|Ash|Bulbasaur}})
* {{p|Charmander}} ({{OP|Ash|Charmander}})
* {{p|Squirtle}} ({{OP|Ash|Squirtle}})
* {{p|Ekans}} ({{OP|Jessie|Ekans}})
* {{p|Koffing}} ({{OP|James|Koffing}})
* {{p|Gastly}} ([[talking Pokémon]]; debut)
* {{p|Venusaur}} (Gastly's illusion; fused with Blastoise to form Venustoise)
* {{p|Blastoise}} (Gastly's illusion; fused with Venusaur to form Venustoise)
* {{DL|Fake Pokémon|In the anime|Venustoise}} (a hybrid of {{p|Venusaur}} and {{p|Blastoise}})

{{right clear}}

==Trivia==
[[File:Mongoose anime.png|thumb|right|The mongoose]]
* The priest says the great war the maiden's lover went off to happened 2000 years before the episode's events.
* One of the creatures Gastly transforms into is [[Animals in the Pokémon world|a real]] {{wp|mongoose}}.
* The outfits that Ash, Misty, and Brock wear during the festival reappear in the fourth [[List of Japanese ending themes|Japanese ending song]], [[Pokémon Ondo]].
* Maiden Peak is a real mountain in {{wp|Oregon}}.
* The Maiden's Peak statue is almost identical to the Orichalcum statue that was a plot device in early episodes of the {{wp|Slayers}} anime series.
* There are many Japanese cultural references in this episode, especially during the festival at the end.
* The festival is also the first time {{an|Misty}} is seen with her hair down.
* The {{p|Gastly}} in this episode is the only known one to date that is able to speak and shape-shift.
* This is the first episode to feature another Pokémon, other than {{MTR}}, that is able to [[Talking Pokémon|talk]] without telepathy.
* The kanji on the fire extinguisher Gastly uses to extinguish Ash's Charmander's tail flame was left unedited in the dub.
* In the {{pmin|the Arab world|Arabic dub}}, this episode was removed for unknown reasons, likely because of the extensive representation of spirits and ghosts in ways that are against Islamic culture. It was also removed from the Korean dub.

===Errors===
* James tells his {{TP|James|Koffing|Weezing}} to use {{m|Poison Gas}}, which a Koffing could [[Anime move errors|not legally have]] in a Generation I game unless it was traded back from Generation II. At the time of the episode's airing, no Generation II game was released yet, meaning that at the time of this episode airing, Koffing was completely unable to learn Poison Gas by any means.
* When Ash says, "We lose. It's just too strong," part of his hat is white where it should be red.

===Dub edits===
* Virtually every single Japanese word in the festival area was edited out.
** The fan that Misty held had the kanji erased.
** Also, Misty (or, at least, someone who sounded suspiciously like her) shouted, "Let's go to the ferris wheel!" twice in the scene (specifically, right up to the part where Brock says "She was the most beautiful girl I've ever seen...").
* The penny was originally a ¥5 coin in the Japanese version. However, the ¥1000 and ¥5000 bills in the old woman's cash register were left unchanged.
* The {{wp|o-fuda}} they wear were referred to as "stickers" in the dub.
* Brock's "Hey put me down!" line in the dub was actually "You guys...!" in the Japanese version (the latter of which implied that Brock was in a trance and his friends broke the trance).
* Ash says that, since Gastly is a Pokémon, he can battle it with his Pokémon in the Japanese version.
* The ball that Meowth was playing with had the word "Matatabi" (meaning "catnip") which was erased from the dub.
* The mongoose says "Mongoose" in the vein of a Pokémon in the original instead of "Dinner time!"

==In other languages==
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{{-}}

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[[Category:Original series episodes|020]]
[[Category:Episodes written by Takeshi Shudō|020]]
[[Category:Episodes storyboarded and directed by Kiyotaka Itani|020]]
[[Category:Episodes animated by Takayuki Shimura|020]]
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Talk:Core series/Archive 1

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==Routes==

I'm not so sure that a Gen V game ''has'' to start its Route numbering system from 301 just because Hoenn and Sinnoh use a similar method. A Gen V or so game could actually link two previously known regions. There are still Routes 47-100 and Routes 135-200 still unaccounted for. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:19, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

:Indeed. Not only is there no precedent or fundamental reason to believe it will be the case, the contrary is more likely to occur. Hoenn and Sinnoh are based on Kyushu and Hokkaido, respectively, which are the only islands in Japan - other than Honshu - arguably big enough to be adapted as regions. By this I am suggesting that Generation V is more likely to revisit Honshu, of which there are plenty of as-yet unexplored territories. If that were to happen, the numbering system would no doubt pick up from Route 47, regardless of whether Kanto or Johto were included in the game.

:Some might also argue that Shikoku, which is another Japanese island, is not too small to serve as the basis of a new region. Supposing that they had a point, the numbering system would still be likely to pick up either from Route 47 or Route 135, due to Shikoku's proximity to both Honshu (in particular the area encompassed in Johto) and Kyushu.

:Those are really the only possibilities involving Japan, and the pattern does suggest that Generation V will be based there. It is important to remember that the transition to Hoenn and then to Sinnoh entailed exploring new territories far enough from previous regions. Now that both Hoenn and Sinnoh are familiar places, that can no longer be done within Japan. -[[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 13:01, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's more to discourage people from being "LOL JOTOE IZ IN RUBBY N SAFIRE" and "LOL HOEN IZ IN DAIMIND N PERL". Though I do agree, they could go and hit whatever's north of Kanto and Johto next time around... the problem would be whether or not to link back to those two or not to. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:08, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:::They should just go ahead and create a 3-D console game like the Orre series and have all the known game regions present. At least the main series regions. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

==Pikachu==
The article mentions Pikachu and Raichu being in Generation Five's regional dex, because it has been like that in all previous generations. What about the evolutionary lines of {{p|Geodude}}, {{p|Abra}}, {{p|Zubat}} (minus {{p|Crobat}}), {{p|Machop}}, {{p|Psyduck}}, and {{p|Goldeen}}? They've all been present in every game, so why not mention them too? --[[User:Goukazaru|Nostalgia]] 17:55, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

:I think only Pikachu is mentioned because it's the "mascot" of the series. It has more of a probability of being in the next game. Then again, {{p|Magikarp}} and {{p|Tentacool}} are also mentioned... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:20, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
::If the next Generation of Pokémon games didn't have the Pikachu family in them I don't think anyone would buy them!- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] ([[User talk:Taromon777|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Taromon777|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:::of course they would buy them. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 18:29, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
::::This is funny because now Pikachu isn't in the [[Udex]] and Black and White was the top selling game when it came out in Japan. So, does anyone know that ended up working? Doesn't the old Pokémon start appearing in the grass after you get the National Dex. (How is that even possible?) --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:32, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

== Eeveelutions? ==

Is it possible that 2 new eeveelutions will be introduced when you consider Gen II and IV both introduced 2 new eeveelutions each (Espeon & Umbreon and Leafeon and Glaceon)?[[User:BlueGasMask|BlueGasMask]] 01:25, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:what about Gen III? none. so, no. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:27, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
::If we see new ones in Gen V, I'd bet on a couple more in Gen VI, but until we have a pattern we ought not. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:31, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:::If the Eeveelutions "pattern" continued in Gen V, then we would either see no new Eeveelutions (Gen II added 2, Gen III added none, Gen IV added 2) or only a Dragon-type Eeveelution (as all of Eevee's current evolved forms are types that were considered "Special" prior to Gen IV; technically, however, this would break the pattern, as only 1 new "Special"-type would be introduced, rather than the usual 2). Hopefully they will begin to create Eeveelutions based off of the types that were previously "Physical"; I'd really like to see a Steel, Fighting, or Ghost-type Eeveelution (Bug...not so much). [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::::If they do invent new Eeveelutions I dread to think how unimaginative their names will be! There will probably be a Dragon-type one called Drageon or something. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] ([[User talk:Taromon777|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Taromon777|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:::::How about Dracoleon? Draco IS greek for Dragon. -[[User:The REAL Dialga|The REAL Dialga]] 15:23, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

== Quality of this article ==

Isn't good. It isn't up to any standard of quality. It reads more like an editorial or some other kind of opinion piece than an encyclopedic one. Given that, what can we do to fix it? I think we can only really say that nothing has been announced, yet. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 05:55, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
: Stale Comment reply!: Right now, all it is is a list of things we know will happen or we think will happen. We might add a couple of pictures, but I can see how it would be hard to incorporate them. But with the latest news, it looks like we're not seeing Gen V games until mid-late 2010 in Japan, and early-mid 2011 everywhere else. However, by August of this year, we'll most likely have at least the {{p|Munchlax}} of Gen V and we can pretty much copy this article over to a rough Gen V page. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 17:12, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::This article is basically a list of patterns through the game series and that's all it ever can be. As I said below, actual Gen V information would go on the Gen V pages. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:32, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

== Magnemite ==
If Magnemite's included, why not Rhyhorn?--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 17:26, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

==About Arceus==

"The legendary pokemon are more powerful in new generations. With Arceus as the god Pokemon of the universe, it would be hard to make a stronger one."
I HATE this argument. Just because it is credited with creating everything does NOT make it omnipotent, or unsurpassable in any other way. Technically, it's only been known to do one thing, and that's creating other pokemon (Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf) which in turn did all the work of creating the universe. And it's arguable that legendary pokemon are mor powerful in each generation (until Arceus, I don't think even the base stats of them were ever improved upon much-- are Groudon and Kyogre that much more powerful than Ho-oh and Lugia?). I'd say their powers and range of influence are just made "cooler", and I doubt Game Freak would be at a loss for that-- Many other fundamental aspects of the universe still have no legendary pokemon to call their own, like life and death. I'm not saying that this argument should be deleted from this page; after all, this is about the fandom, and many fans have the opinion "ARceuS Is gOD!!!1! ZOmG GameFreaKs caNT FoLlow Taht up!!!1!!!!!111!"
I just think it should be rephrased, maybe as "Some people argue that because Arceus created the Pokemon world, Gamefreak would have difficulty making a more awesome pokemon next generation in order to maintain interest in the franchise." Something like that. Any thoughts? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 23:15, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
:I agree, who said, in the current generation, there has to be stronger pokémon then the last.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 23:22, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
::The whole article is fanspeculation. It is a valid argument, and I've rephrased the whole entire section to make it somewhat more encyclopedic. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:19, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Wow, that's much better. Even I couldn't have phrased it that well! Thanks! --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 19:13, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

I dont think that arceus is directly referred to as a god but his ability to create the three dietic dragons and the three lake gaurdians make his ability '''DIVINE'''(like all other legendaries), so there's no point of dubbing him as a god. And that would be offensive to religions, so nintendo would've thought of that point before approving of arceus'release to the fourth generation.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 18:28, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:It is not stated as such any more. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:28, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

::I believe somewhere in Gen IV they mention people worshipping Dialga, Palkia, and Arceus as gods. It might be Cynthia's grannie I'm thinking of, but she says that Dialga and Palkia were "revered as dieties" or something like that. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 23:17, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

that is exactly what i'm saying, 'revered as dieties' but not actual gods, but actually the sinnoh myth is based on shinto which might possibly have been confusing for the pokémon community.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 17:14, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

:But diety refers to gods, or somthing/someone on the level of a god. If you can find a meaning that's different, then please do. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:08, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
::I'm no longer arguing that it isn't a "god" (as the word itself is quite vague. All I was saying is that the assumption that Game Freak won't be able to come up with something more powerful, as well as the assumption that they have to with each new generation, are both misconceptions. And again, as this is about the fandom's opinion, and many are of the belief that Nintendo has to do both of these things to make a new generation (and that they couldn't if they wanted to), I think the amended wording suits it fine. {{unsigned|AndyPKMN}}
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== page is messed up ==

I suggest rearranging the page into several sections or put into a table--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:12, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

== um..... ==

there could be a future Generation starting off at Route 49 getting rid of that LONG gap between [[Route 48]] and [[Route 101]]--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 17:51, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

if the gap between routes complete a full number sequence, that means that between johto and hoenn there are most probably two generations, between hoenn and sinnoh there are about four generations, of course if I take this ''if each region has about 27 playable routes'', of course its an assumption but good point to be mentioned if the numbering counts. yet there's the problem of the pokémon world's route numbering system which could exist as some kind of government policy, if it exists.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:43, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

:Not to mention that, if a new generation's [[country]] includes a route number starting right after the last route number of another country, that would heavily imply that said other country is accessible in the game. For example, if [[Generation V]]'s country were to begin at Route 49, that would imply that at least [[Johto]] is accessible in the main games of that generation. [[Hoenn]] began at 101, [[Sinnoh]] began at 201, and the [[Sevii Islands]] did not number their routes, all to avoid these implications.

:(For the record, yes, there is a precedent for [[Route 47]] going west from {{ci|Cianwood}} when [[Route 46]] is on the eastern side of the country. The precedent is [[Kanto]]'s [[Route 24]], north of {{ci|Cerulean}} while [[Route 23]] is on the west side of the country.) {{unsigned|Shiningpikablu252}}

:um... what's a precedent?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 02:14, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
::and I still say that they can fix that long @$$ gap between Johto and Hoenn's region number's without making Johto accessible. The excuse? A land Bridge between Johto and Hypothetical Generation V region that vanished over time.--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 02:29, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
There could also be no more Pokémon games. The moral of the story is we base our information on the trends of recent games, not what a handful of fans think is possible. Because anything's possible. Even an elephant bird (ten points for getting the reference). —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:47, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

true. But there are some people (like me) that are insane about Pokémon. If the series is stopped we will band togéther to attack nintendo. There's still SO much Nintendo can put into Pokémon. And besides it makes them money. I don't think they'll end it yet.--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 02:49, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

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== Rewrite ==

I largely agree with trom's reasoning that we needed to rewrite this page, but am concerned that we are losing a lot of information by doing this transition so suddenly. I certainly feel that any of the "evidence" sections, we retain on other pages, and that it's easy to find on those pages. As for the format, I'd advocate a few more bulleted lists, as I think it is easier to pick out on the page than a whole load of prose to wade through. I know you had good intentions though trom :) [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 19:54, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
:If you feel I removed anything of importance, then feel free to put it back in. I did think that some items listed were overtrivialised, so I took them out. As for the format, the sections with paragraphs is generally preferred for overall article quality. Thanks for your feedback. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:09, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
::Okay so I agree that most articles should have sections and paragraphs, but I contest that this is a "normal" article. It reads more like a list, which has been converted to a formatted article (which incidentally is basically what has happened). Perhaps instead, some of this content should be migrated to a "List of patterns common to all Pokémon games" and then merely referenced from this article? [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 18:43, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
:::This page was better before the rewrite. Put the evidence back in. [[User:Emyunoxious|Emyunoxious]] 01:38, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
::::No, I disagree; it looks much cleaner and more professional now, while the old version was fairly jumbled. If you want to add old information, at least put it in a more organized manner than before. [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 05:15, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::I think the article looks better without all the bullet points. It's a lot easier to read. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 11:33, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

== Redundant ==

Disclaimer: This article is purely fan speculation. There is NO evidence for or against it.
Section:evidence for gen V.
Section:evidence against gen V.

lol
--[[User:Gen1king|''GEN'']]1[[User talk:Gen1king|KING]] 14:12, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
:It said '''solid''' evidence. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:37, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

==Could be a new handheld==

I did not know where else to put this so... I was just reading NGamer(uk 46) and it has an artical on page 6 about what Nintendo president Satoru Iwata said in an interview with japanese newspaper Ashi Shimbun. They report that when asked about a future generation of handhelds he apparently said that that the new consol would have "highly detailed graphics, and it will be necessary to have a sensor with the ability to read the movements of people playing". With earlier reports of Nvidia working on a chipset for Nintendo, and Game Freak advertising a while back for a 3D artist (or something), I believe that the 5th gen of Pokémon is close and we may even see sneek previews of the next handheld by the end of the year, sounds to me as if they are working on it by now (could even be in testing as NGamer have a ''mock'' picture of what they believe is in the works). {{unsigned|011384mm}}
:It's already announced. You might not know because it was revealed 1 or 2 days ago. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 16:01, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

== A Little Spelling Error ==

Since this page is protected, there's a really small spelling error. - "Just as Red and Blue were made in Generation III, and Gold and Sliver in Generation IV, it is most likely that Ruby and Sapphire will be remade in Generation V." It should be Silver not Sliver. [[User:Ugoz|Ugoz]] 22:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
:Fixed, thanks for noticing. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 23:02, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
::Another minor error that was over looked in what Ugoz pointed out, made should be changed to remade.[[User:NnN Neo|NnN Neo]] 03:45, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

== Add info about Gen V ==

Could someone delete the references of generation V. Or Atleast reword them. also, plz mention Gne. V in the begining paragraph. thankyou[[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 02:29, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:Also, can add a link to Gen 5 at the bottom of the page.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:35, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::In progress. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:14, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Also a reminder: in "Speculation against future generations", if it even remains relevant in the short term at all, everything involving the unlikelihood of the fifth gen in particular (or unlikelihood that it will be on the DS) should be removed. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 19:26, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
::::...Hello? The page still talks about the possibility of an already-confirmed fifth gen not happening, even saying no new Pokemon have been revealed. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 02:54, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

== Two Sets of Remakes in Generation V and Beyond? ==

I Think that if they ARE Going to remake Ruby and Sapphire in Gen. V, then they would have to do remakes of FR/LG, because FR/LG have the exact same quality as Ruby/Sapphire. And then, they would probably have to remake DP in Generation VI, if there ever will be a Generation VI.Should there be a Generation VI
in 2013 or whenever (2013 is my best guess, or 2014), then there would have to be more remakes of HGSs.Then, in an seemingly unlikely Generation VII, would come reremakes of FRLG and RS, and then the first remakes of the Generation V Games.I See all these, except the First remakes of RS, unlikely.[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 17:58, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
:Remember, talk pages are meant for discussing the article itself, not the subject. To post all your theories and random questions about the content of the games, visit the forums.—[[User:Lord mada|Mada-sama]] ([[User talk:Lord mada|Talk to me!]])— 18:17, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
::Remake will only happen if the generation timeline is the same. I and III take place during the same time, II and IV also take place during the same time. Someone should mention it at the remake part about the "same timeline". -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 15:07, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh, please. Nowhere is it stated that Generation I and Generation III take place at the same time, nor is it stated anywhere that Generation II and Generation IV also take place at the same time. The only thing we know about any Pokémon game timelines is that Generation II (and its remakes) take place three years after Generation I (and its remakes), while XD: Gale of Darkness takes place five years after Colosseum. Who's to say Generation III isn't a prequel to Generation I, or Generation IV isn't a sequel to Generation II? Communication compatability means nothing--both Colosseum and XD: Gale of Darkness trades with Generation III handheld games without any problems despite the fact that the Gamecube titles have a distinct timeline difference. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:34, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

== [[Future generations of Pokémon#Speculation against future generations|Speculation against future generations]] ==

Despite the name of this section, it's actually arguing that there won't be a [[Generation V]]. An argument which I don't think anyone can logically support given that we know Gen V is coming. In particular it says, "no new Pokémon have been revealed" which is just completely wrong at this point. [[User:Drapion|Drapion]] 05:47, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

== Generation V Hate ==

"While Generation V is known to be on its way, several vocal fans believe it will be inferior to Generation IV, which has, as of the present, lasted nearly as long as Generation III did."

So, how does this fit in with the rest of the section? The rest of the section just says there won't be future generations. [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 18:32, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:Okay, it's been changed. I know people will always have generations that they hate, but I was saying it didn't fit in with the rest of the section. [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 23:31, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

== No Old Pokemon In Generation 5!?!? ==

Than that means a lot of this HAS to be wrong.. if there won't be any old pokemon, than that means Pikachu won't appear and.... ... ... ... ... OMG NO MORE GEODUDE!!! WOOT!!!! Anyway point is this needs to be pointed out in the article eventually!! Also, a question, has it been comfirmed that there won't be badges in the new generation? Or is this still a rumor? Anyway, I'd just like to point out that IF what Masuda said is TRUE than that means some of the "Fan Speculation" will NOT happen!! --[[User:Landfish7|Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]]'''7 13:57, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
:I thought it was just no old Pokémon until ''after'' acquiring the Nat'l Dex. Calm down, you'll be able to get Pikachu. [[User:Jazzmoth|ʝɑzzmotɦ]] [[User talk:Jazzmoth|❝❞]][[Special:Contributions/Jazzmoth|✎]] 16:16, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
::I guess we will have to wait until the game is released to figure out exactly how they are going to do this.. something makes me doubt that they will all of a sudden have past Pokemon in the wild after you recieve the national dex.. I thought it would be more like Generations 1 through 4 Pokemon couldn't be traded into the game until the National Pokedex was unlocked and you can only find Generation 5 Pokemon in the wild NO MATTER WHAT!! BTW, I don't care if Pikachu ends up in the game or not.. it's a useless electric rodent.. so.. should we at least point this fact out on the Black and White page? --[[User:Landfish7|Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]]'''7 20:07, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, until we find out for sure either way, it's speculation. Let's not add it until it's confirmed exactly how this will work. [[User:Jazzmoth|ʝɑzzmotɦ]] [[User talk:Jazzmoth|❝❞]][[Special:Contributions/Jazzmoth|✎]] 23:03, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon debuting before their Generation ==
Zoroark debuted before Gen V in the Anime, if the movies count.. Which is likely as Manaphy and Lucario are mentioned. --[[User:JasonTongRulz|♪ Jason Tong ♪]] 08:40, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== Japan? ==

It states that all regions have been based on places in Japan.. but Isshu is based off of New York. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 01:21, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== Myth busted ==

Since NOBODY went above a base stat total of 680 in the 5th Gen, and since Arceus is still the only one to go higher than that, using Arceus as evidence against future generations is now false. If Arceus were still credible evidence to use Reshiram, Zekrom, Kyurem, AND Genesect would have a base stat total of 720 or higher, so that disproves the superseding part of each generation. Even in terms of backstory they did absolutely nothing to Arceus's title, as they technically didn't create [i]anything[/i]. Reshiram and Zekrom simply have either Good or Evil personalities respectively that got into arguements with eachother to repeat Groudon and Kyogre except nothing real "special", Kyurem is a derp until we get the potential Gray version and find out what it really is, and Genesect is simply another Mewtwo. Due to this, a 6th Generation is highly possible still, as nobody superseded the 4th Gen in terms of backstories. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 17:06, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

== ..... ==

WHY whould ANYONE think they'll remake FR?LG?!?! That'll be so much of a waste of resources since they already remade Kanto once and they don't need SEVEN games for that, as they can simply put all the Kanto and Johto legendaries in Hoenn like they did with most of the Legendaries in HG/SS. Game Freak seems to be wanting a full reboot here, something that will NOT be accomplished with FR/LG remakes. You'd get a better result with Hoenn remakes than that for goodness sakes, since the FR/LG remakes are TOTAL speculation unlike the Hoenn remakes, which actually have more wait to them (For instance, Dive is an HM again). [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 17:35, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
::Heck that entire section in the article is total speculation to begin with. Who put that there anyways??? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 17:37, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

== Outdated and Actively Incorrect Content ==

While this page *was* accurate, the section on the new generations coming out with a new system (paraphrasing heavily) is, obviously, conclusively false at this point. Id like to either remove the statement, or amend it, but considering how much controversy this sort of page has the potential to cause, I don't want to do so without greater input. [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] 01:05, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Didn't the 3DS come out with Gen V? I'm new, but there's so much here I can't find any mainspace to edit!

Talk:Phione (Pokémon)

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==Phione- Legendary or not?==
Can phione really be considered a legendary? It is by no means limited to one a game cartridge as legendary Pokemon are, given that it can breed with Ditto as well as any Magnemite, Rotom, or Baltoy. It's base stats are the same as Glalie's. Which is NOT legendary. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in order to be a legendary, doesn't a Pokemon have to be only one per game without trading, and have at least SOMEWHAT good stats?
:In my opinion, it's okay the way this article puts it. It doesn't mention Phione being a legendary, yet it's in the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Sinnoh_Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon legendary category] because it's related to Manaphy (and its Pokédex number is among legendaries). Kind of like an honorable mention in lists, but still not worth of mentioning a legendary status when talking about Phione itself. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:43, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
::Hmm... It's because of the criterion of mine I mentioned in the last paragraph that I didn't like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Phione_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=142880&oldid=142060 this update]. I wonder if somebody agrees with me. Was it really necessary to mention that "it's still considered a legendary"? --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 00:30, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:My opinion is that Phione is classed as a legendary Pokémon because of it's relation to Manaphy as Johans has said. Also, legendary Pokémon do not evolve. Phione does not evolve into Manaphy either therefore, it must have some legendary traits. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]]
:You know, I'd have to say Phione is best classified as legendary. It's a derivative of a legendary - more closely tied to a true legendary Pokémon than Mewtwo is to Mew. It's a black sheep of the lot, but still pretty legendary, I think. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 02:18, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
::What's the role of the Phione species in Mystery Dungeon 2? I still vote for never mentioning explicitly "Phione is a legendary" until the whole franchise hints it well enough. This means official text saying it's a legendary, side games with extraordinary plots related to Phione, whether or not it will protagonize a hosou or a story arc, whether or not it will be a bonus Poké Ball in Super Smash Bros. Brawl... IDK... Stuff like that. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 22:44, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Before continuing with the edit war on the Trivia section, I must say I agree with Missingno. Master on removing that line from the Trivia section which says "Without using cheats or trading, Phione is the only legendary Pokémon that a player can have more that one of". The reason to put it back (as seen [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Phione_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=next&oldid=255470 here]) is based just on the template. Such unability to say whether Phione is legendary or not only makes that line worthy of being removed IMO. Something can be an exception, but you can't tell if this one is. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 17:35, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:It's because I suck at reasons. XD; [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 17:37, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

If Pokemon.com says Phione is legendary, Phione is legendary! Phione is most likely considered legendary because it is '''of legend''' in the same way Mew and Arceus have legends surrounding them. I don't actually recall Nintendo or the Pokemon franchise explicitly state what the benchmark is for a legendary. The classifications for a legendary, (such as only one per game, high stats and inability to breed), were most likely assumed after the second Generation or so and were constatly reinforced with more legendaries fitting the criteria.
Maybe the classification has just been broken.

Phione is definately legendary but it's caused so much debate because it doesn't fit into the assumed criteria. [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 13:00, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Phione is a conundrum. I really don't think of it as legendary, as it is "legendary" the same way Rotom is. Rotom is rare and has the legendary music play, but reproduces more of its own kind with Ditto; Phione's breeding is exactly like Rotom's. It traces its lineage from legends but doesn't have the stats to match up. Mewtwo is considered legendary due to its "one-of-a-kind" status and immense power. I say Phione is more of an "Almost, but not quite Legendary" pokemon, as it basically lacks that one special (probably yellow) element or essence that Manaphy has that makes it legendary. So, I think it's not like Phione is a demotion to borderline-legendary status, I think it's more like Manaphies being "Chosen Phiones" who are more powerful and pure (and legendary) as a result. This occasional legendary status isn't passed down from this special "Phione", and thus its children are normal Phiones. I don't think this debate would be so hectic if breeding wasn't the only way to obtain Phione. I say Phione belongs in the same category as Rotom as far as legendary status is concerned (Which is no) That's actually not a bad theory, that Manaphy are stronger Phione rather than Phione being weaker Manaphy. [[User:Kohdok|Kohdok]] 08:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

:Phione isn't a legendary. Multiple Phione can be bred from Manaphy. Multiple Phione can be bred from Phione. Also, its base stats aren't very high. I don't know why its banned from the Battle Tower, but likely because they are too delicate for competitive battling. [[User:Dusknoir477|Dusknoir477]] 09:13, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

"Phione is a legendary because it can be obtained by breeding a [[Manaphy]], and Manaphy is a legendary. Yes, it is a baby pokemon, but it's cool that a [[baby pokemon]] is a legendary. The only reason it's band from the [[Battle Frontier]] is because it IS A LEGENDARY!!!!! (duh) --[[User:Platinum giratina13|Platinum giratina13]] 21:44, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

As per my above post, has anyone actually read or heard Nintendo state what actually MAKES a Legendary a Legendary? With the arrival of the Phione/Manaphy legendary debate, the assumed criteria of not being able to breed, one-of-a-kind-ness, and high stats would technically be outdated as Phione and Manaphy are confirmed legenderies.
Accoriding to the "new" rules, the only criteria for a legendary to be legendary is for Nintendo to say it's legendary! END OF STORY! [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 20:05, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Phione is not legendary. However, evolution cannot be the only criteria because when togepi was introduced it was considered to be legendary but it now is part of a three-tier evolutionary line.

== Baby Pokemon? ==
Is it really ok to designate it as a Baby? It really doesn't fit any of the criteria of a Baby Pokemon. I mean it can breed, and to my understanding, Phione isn't a pre-evolution of Manaphy (As exemplified by the fact that it can't ever evolve into it. >_>) so much as a Manaphy that was bred in colder waters. --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 04:18, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

It's not a baby Pokémon. Baby Pokémon evolve and can't breed. Phione breeds and can't evolve. --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 14:06, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

== This... Egg move... ==

Okay, weeks ago I taught my Manaphy the move {{m|Waterfall}}, and I recently got a Ditto. Today, when my first Phione hatched from its Egg, guess what? It knew Waterfall!! But why in the world no Pokémon site mentions it? Not even [http://www.legendarypokemon.net Legendary Pokémon], the first people to publicly hack the game, talk of this. Maybe now that Manaphy was given away in an easier way, more people can help me confirming this (maybe it's an in-game bug or something? Or some game mechanics that have been overlooked?).

<blockquote>
===By [[breeding]]===

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|- style="background: #{{water color}};"
![[Generation IV]]
|-
| '''{{M|Waterfall}}'''
|}
</blockquote>

Please do discuss. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 02:18, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

It's an HM. That's why. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 02:20, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:Oh... Does it always happen with babies and HM moves then? ^_^' And why isn't it valid to place it in the learnset lists? Is it because it's "obvious"? --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 03:26, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, and yes. It's listed under... breeding... i think. [[User:Inker|Inker]] 21:58, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
:Always happens with compatible HMs and TMs. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:06, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
They grow up so fast.

== Pssssst ==

Well well well, I just checked Pokemon.com and they just said Phione is indeed, not legendary. Aww shoot, I totally thought it was. Go to the mailbag. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 04:09, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:does that mean i can use it in the PBR little cup? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
::No because all the Pokémon you use have to be a pre-evolution of another Pokémon. And since Phione doesn't evolve well... --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 04:26, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:::oh well. its not like i have PBR anyway. (oh the irony!!) '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:27, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, I absolutely HATE to say I told you so.... But what the heck! I told you so! =D --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 11:40, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:Ah, contradiction. [http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag_02042008 This] is also from Pokemon.com's mailbag, saying that Phione ''is'' legendary. // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|'''''SzayelAporroGranz''''']][[Image:Ani282MS.gif]] 19:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
WHAT?! This is impossible! Why would they change their answer??? HOW can something with Glalie's base stats be legendary?! --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 20:02, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yessss! I totally thought Phione was legendary, I mean, it IS related to one anyway. Anyway, no more fricking revert/edit wars now. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 20:14, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Why are you so happy? Phione breaks all the laws of legendaries- it can breed, it has bad stats, you can have more than one of them in PMD2... This upsets me, because all my carefully reasoned arguements, which by all rights should've been right, have been proven wrong! Plus, this means that if I use Phione in competitive battle, I'll be breaking my own rule of no legendaries. D< --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 20:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe because I actually THOUGHT Phione was a legendary? There's a word that you might want to hear about-- Exceptions. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 20:20, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
But how can Phione be an exception to EVERY SINGLE RULE THAT DEFINES A LEGENDARY, AND STILL BE A LEGENDARY?! '''IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.''' --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 20:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
::Yea, it says here http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag_02042008 that it is legendary....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:47, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Lol yeah, we reverted the 'non-legendary' things a while ago. *points up to Szayel's post* [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:49, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Let's not forget that there was never a specific "rule" that said legendaries couldn't do what Phione does. After all, Latios and Latias didn't break the legendary genderless rule, they were merely the first legendaries with genders. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 08:58, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Plus, Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres were sort of confirmed to lay eggs in [[Pokemon Snap]], though I'm not sure if that counts or not.

~~Weedle_McHairybug~~

I recall an episode, no, three episodes of ''Pokémon: Master Quest'' where Ash encountered a Lugia and a baby Lugia. Does that mean Legendary Pokémon can have babies, in this case Manaphy getting Phione? [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 18:51, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:Some Legendaries have been shown to breed outside of the main series, like the three Birds in ''Snap''. But Phione is not a baby Manaphy because it can never become a Manaphy. Perhaps if one were to breed a Manaphy in Fiore then one would get another Manaphy egg. Of course, Manaphy eggs can't appearantly hatch in Fiore. This is all speculation, of course. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

But Phione can get another Phione as a baby.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 02:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, but you can also breed a Magnemite to get another Magnemite. That doesn't classify it as a baby Pokémon. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:44, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, the classification of "Baby Pokémon" is that they're too young to breed. I forgot that until now.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 14:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Just a thought: I still don't feel naming Phione a legendary Pokémon for a reason like that (the mailbox from Pokémon.com) is enough. What about Japanese denominations (densetsu, maboroshi, shinwa)? Which one is Phione? Bulbapedia is an output from us, but it's an input to many people. Saying Phione is a legendary because of that may be unhelpful if players organize battles or even trades where "legendaries aren't allowed" and they want to believe in this article instead of believing in sites that base themselves on stats and stuff. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:33, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

An excellent point. How do we know Pokemon.com is correct? They changed their answer once before, which could indicate that they themselves don't have any idea, and are just guessing. Really, the only ones who'd know for sure are the creators themselves, the ones who actually came up with Phione. We can't count on Pokemon.com to know what the creators were thinking. So I'd say Phione's legendary status would still be uncertain. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 14:26, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

:I think that given its place in the Pokédex and how it was required to have a Legendary Pokémon to obtain should be enough proof. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:37, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, so Dratini, Dragonair, and Dragonite are legendaries, because they're squeezed in between the bird trio and Mewtwo, are they? They are according to your logic. And secondly, just because a legendary Pokemon breeds to make a different species altogether, doesn't mean that the different species is also a legendary. Now, if Phione was unable to breed and had better stats, I would think it's a legendary. But anything with base stats equal to Glalie's and the ability to breed with Ditto like crazy? I mean, isn't the whole thing behind legendaries the fact that they're supposed to be HARD TO GET? And Phione can frickin' breed! Nintendo's never let us get more than one of each legendary per game w/o trading. Alright, here is, as I percieve it, the main points in the Phione Legendary Argument;
Phione must be legendary because;
*It is bred from another legendary
*Its position in the Pokédex
*Genderless
Phione CAN'T be a legendary because;
*Its stats are mediocre at best
*It can breed, and therefore more than one per game cart can be easily obtained

And two of the points that say it's legendary I have already shot down. The Dragonite, Tyranitar, and Metagross families are squeezed between legendaries, and does that make them legendaries? No, it does not! Does Phione's position in the Pokédex classify it as a legendary? Absolutely not! And maybe it is bred from another legendary- does that actually MEAN anything about Phione's legendary status? No! Mew was said to be the ancestor of all Pokémon, does that mean that every single Pokémon in existance is legendary? I didn't think so! And the stats! The one major consistancy about legendaries (aside from the whole can't breed thing) is their good stats. And Glalie's base stats are not good. Now then, based on that argument, I'd say Phione cannot in any way in any form, shape, or existance, be a legendary, and you'd be insane to think it is. Thank you and have a nice day. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 11:45, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

:The families you mentioned are not Legendary because they are ''families''. Phione does not evolve from or into another Pokémon. Don't be so stubborn... Phione is a Legendary, and [[MissingNo.]] isn't a real Pokémon. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:41, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

::Until recently, Roselia couldn't evolve into or from anything else. And don't drag MissingNo. into this. The fact that they are families means nothing. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 18:46, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

:::The fact that they are families means everything because Legendaries do not evolve. Which is why they can be surrounded by Legendary Pokémon in the Pokédex and not be considered. And you brought them up. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:04, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

::::Well, Rotom doesn't evolve and is oddly squeezed in between a bunch of evolutions and legendaries, and is it a legendary? Definitely not. Some people even thought it WAS a legendary for that reason (and the fact that legendary battle music played when it was battled), and yet, they were WRONG! Evolutions notwithstanding, the mere fact that there CAN be non-legendaries sandwiched between legendaries in the Pokédex means that Phione's position in said Pokédex doesn't mean a thing. And just because something doesn't evolve to or from anything doesn't mean it won't. Again, I point out Roselia as a prime example here. Dang thing got a pre-evo AND an evolution in the same generation! Now, I know Pokémon.com said that Phione is legendary, but they originally said it wasn't. The mere fact that they changed their answer indicates that they are doubtful. They could be guessing. Phione breaks the two cardinal rules that define legendaries; rarity (Phione can breed with Ditto to create more Phione), and strength (base stats of Glalie-not good). Legendaries are supposed to have at least DECENT base stats, and Phione's stats? Far from it. Most importantly, and this is the point most of you are overlooking, legendaries are supposed to be ONE PER GAME, sans trading/events. And Phione can BREED. Legendaries aren't SUPPOSED to reproduce in the games like this! That's why Phione was created in the first place-so Manaphy could lay eggs that hatched into something other than itself, so people wouldn't be running around with a *bleep*load of Manaphy on one game. Now THINK about that for a while, won't you? I propose that Phione's legendary status be labeled as "unconfirmed" until we get irrefutable proof of its legendary status (or lack thereof) by those who would know. Let's wait and see how the Anime portrays it, for example. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 10:52, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Cardinal rule that defines legendaries? There are none, and there hasn't been one that didn't get thrown out the window in the last two generations besides the fact that they can't evolve.
:::::Also, don't use Roselia for an example. Just because it can't evolve doesn't mean it's a legendary, but because Phione's legendary it cannot evolve. Squares and rectangles, you see. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Exactly. And I ''highly'' doubt that Manaphy will ever gain an evo or even a prevo. Rotom, on the other hand, is more likely. Besides, who ever said that base stats defined legendary status? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:48, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nobody... It's more of an intuitive meaning. Like, most Pokémon movies and major story arcs are protagonized by legendary Pokémon. In the anime, legendary Pokémon are "powerful". And non-coincidentally, their stats are high in the Pokémon games, which is an accurate meaning for "powerful". --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 16:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
::Doesn't mean they couldn't make a crappy legendary. As of Gen I, the rules were ONE PER GAME, HIGH STATS, and NO EVOLVING. Once Gen II rolled around we got NO GENDER and NO BREEDING. Gen III took down the ONE PER GAME thing since Brandon had the damned Regi and the NO GENDER thing with Lati@s. All Gen IV did was remove NO BREEDING and HIGH STATS, since Phione sucks. Well, actually, not really sucks, just isn't incredibly cheaply high. People want less legendaries, how the hell else are they going to do anything unless they gradually reduce legendaries into little more than normal Pokémon? Sheesh, Heatran has a variable gender! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:45, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh, sure, they COULD create a crappy legendary, but why would they? Legendary Pokémon have always been portrayed as powerful Pokémon that cannot breed. Legendary Pokémon are put up high on pedestals by those who create them. Legendaries sell movies. It's clear that the creators of Pokémon want the public to have a high opinion of legendaries, so why wreck it with a legendary that you can get a *bleep*load of in any given game, and that has less than decent stats? I don't think they would. Now, I want any one of you to list for me all the overwhelming reasons that prove beyond conclusive doubt that Phione is a legendary. Anyone? Nobody? OK, let me think here.... Oh, I know! Phione's bred from Manaphy! My goodness! Oh, how I must have been mistaken! Oh, Phione's bred from Manaphy! Son of cheese, that MUST mean it's legendary! Anyone who agreed with my last two sentences is a complete imbecile. For the love of Arceus, people, just because a Pokémon can be hatched from an egg that has been laid by a Legendary Pokémon doesn't mean that the offspring is legendary! Pichu hatch from eggs laid by Pikachu and Raichu, so does that make Pikachu and Raichu baby Pokémon? Of course not! Now, I want you people to think- just THINK- about it for a moment. Given the evidence I have presented, not just now, but over my entire career of arguing that Phione cannot be legendary, versus the single, measly fact that it can be bred from Manaphy, not to mention an entirely unconvincing letter from Pokémon.com (in which, may I remind you all, they changed their answer, indicating that they don't really know and are more than likely guessing), can you REALLY, in sound mind and complete sanity, STILL say, with the utmost conviction, that Phione is a legendary? DIDN'T THINK SO! OH, DUH! I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 01:29, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Phione is legendary... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 02:14, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:Phione's legendary status is debatable as we have not received word from the Jap creators. But still, Phione is legendary because it can ShoopWhoop. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:37 2 Jul 2008'''''
:If Phione's not legendary, neither is Manaphy. Neither is Mewtwo. Manaphy is hatched from an egg, it matters not that you can't dump it in the daycare and get more Manaphy. The reason FOR Phione is just that: they KNEW that after getting an egg with Manaphy people would try for more, breed with Ditto, and end up whining if it were like Mew or Celebi. So they made Phione to trick people. As for Mewtwo, it was created by humans. No legend there. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
And why do you think they did that with Manaphy in the first place? So people couldn't get more easily! Phione, on the other hand, can breed. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 14:15, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

:Which makes Phione the first legendary that can successfully breed. No one ever said that all legendaries have to fit into some definable category forever more. And the fact that it's stats are lacking is because it can breed. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:50, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

::YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT! The mere fact that Manaphy can breed, but not to create more Manaphy, indicates that legendaries aren't SUPPOSED to breed! As I've previously stated, if the fact that Manaphy can breed to make Phione is the only argument for Phione's legendary status, then it's a real feeble-ass argument, as, if Phione were indeed a legendary, then it would be the only legendary with breeding capabilities and mediocre stats, and I don't think that that's all that likely! Think about it! If they were going to make it so legendaries were breedable, there would be no Phione, and Manaphy could just lay more Manaphy eggs! OH DUH! I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 16:52, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

It was never set in stone that legendaries cannot breed and have to be one of a kind. If Nintendo and Game Freak want to make a sub-par legendary, then SO BE IT!!! Obviously the person who stated that Phione was not legendary was mistaken, and they corrected that mistake. Things change. Nothing has to be the exact same every generation. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:26, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

:OK, what you're saying WOULD make a lot of sense, if it didn't indicate that you never actually comprehended my arguments. THINK! If Nintendo and Game Freak wanted to create a breedable legendary at all, Phione wouldn't even exist, as the only reason they made it was that Manaphy could lay eggs without them hatching into more Manaphy! They would've just made Manaphy able to produce more Manaphy eggs! But they didn't! They made Manaphy able to breed a completely different species, and THAT species can breed, and it can't evolve into Manaphy. You know what this means? LEGENDARIES ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BREED, AND PHIONE IS LIVING PROOF! Now I agree, they COULD make a sub-par legendary. My point, however, is, WHY WOULD THEY? Look at the movies- legendary Pokémon are constantly spoken of with reverence, portrayed as grand, majestic, powerful, and rare, depictions that hold true in the games. Now, do you REALLY think that they'd besmirch the good name of legendaries, which they have worked so hard to glorify, by creating a legendary as common as Bidoof and as weak as Glalie? DIDN'T THINK SO! And before anyone replies to this, why don't you actually READ what I type, and let it sink in, let the gears of reason start turning in your head, and don't just come up with another lame excuse of an excuse as to why Phione is STILL legendary, despite all my well-reasoned arguments proving otherwise. Thank you. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 11:27, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

::<<sigh>>... The games and the movies are made by different people and follow completely different canon. According to the anime, Unown are legendary and powerful. Plus, who's to say that you can't produce more Manaphy eggs in a future generation? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:15, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

:::Missingno. Master, I don't really think that the Games even held Legendaries as being high, majestic, and one of a kind. If they had, Brandon would NOT have had the three Golems OR the three Birds (the former of which can ALSO be caught in the wild), Palmer would NOT have owned Heatran, Cresselia, and Regigigas. Also, I won't get too spoilerific, but in Movie 11, let's just say that Shaymin isn't the only one of it's kind (Then again, considering the same event that Shaymin debuted in had a similar white rock located in Kanto (not to mention it being obtained in Almia), it was also hinted that it wasn't really one of a kind there either.). And anyways, even IF you can't breed Manaphies from Manaphies in Sinnoh, the mere fact that it HAD an egg proves that it can breed from another Manaphy, which would hint that, by your logic, it's not even a legendary. Also, the three dogs, Rayquaza, Groudon, Kyogre, Celebi, Mew, and Deoxys wouldn't have multiple members in Fiore (If Manaphy is counted as an official Main Legendary despite originating from a Spinoff game, then I'm going to count Fiore as a main game region as well.). the three dogs, Lugia, and Ho-Oh would ALSO have not appeared in Kanto/Sevii Islands if that was the case. heck, the three dogs, Ho-Oh, Lugia, the three birds, and Celebi would NOT have existed in Orre at all if they were one of a kind. The three Regis would ALSO have not existed in Sinnoh at ALL if legendaries were truly one of a kind. So please stop acting as though they shouldn't have multitudes. In fact, the only legendary pokemon that HASN'T had multitudes period is Mewtwo itself. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 11:06, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
::::But, the fact still remains that in the games, legendaries are supposed to be one per cartridge. Manaphy itself is proof of this- if legendaries weren't intended to be one per cartridge, Phione wouldn't exist, as Manaphy would be able to produce more Manaphy. That's why Phione exist- to prevent Manaphy from breeding more Manaphy. And Phione are certainly NOT one per cartridge, as anyone with a Phione, a Ditto, and access to a daycare center can easily get as many Phione as they wish. And then there is the matter of its stats. Legendary Pokemon are powerful. They have good stats. They can learn Hyper Beam and other powerful moves. Phione has base 80 stats all around and can't learn Hyper Beam or any variant. It has no exclusive move (true, not all legendaries do). It doesn't even learn all the moves Manaphy can. And it doesn't learn ANY move Manaphy can't. True, this does not conclusively prove Phione to not be legendary, but it certainly lends a hefty amount of support towards that side of the issue. Certainly more than "It's bred from Manaphy, it must be legendary". - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 02:34, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::I can come up with better. It says so right there on Pokemon.com. Yes, I get that they corrected the answer. You're just reading into WHY it was. It's a wild guess, but I'm betting that the IT person who updates the website isn't intricately connected with anyone who makes or translates the games. He tried to answer it on his own, did it incorrectly, and was corrected. Either way, if you have a better source than POKEMON.COM that that says it isn't a legendary, I'd like to see it.
::::::As for all this talk about "Legends are this, legends are that", none of it is true. The only requirement to be a "Legendary Pokemon" is to be deemed one by Game Freak. What moves they learn are largely irrelevant, because many Pokemon have vast move pools. Gen 3 and 4 often have Legends as Plot Devices, but it doesn't hold true to Gen I, II, and those that are exclusive to events.[[User:Randomspot555|Randomspot555]] 22:06, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't know why the so-called MissigNo. Master is so upset that Phione is a legendary! I could say more reasons why it is I just don't want to, and some of them are already said, becasue it's so obvious! It is!!! DEAL WITH IT! Now, another reason nobody has said or at least so far I've read, it makes no sense to make a legendary Pokémon to breed ''into''(I don't know which preposition goes here) a not-legendary one. That's just not logic!, I mean, we all know Manaphy IS legendary right, then why would it be able to bread (into another species, anyway) into a not legendary?? MAKES NO SENSE, it is legendary despite its "bad stats", ability to breed and it doesn't evolve, even into the species it can come from, etc..

Would other legendary breed (if more could) into a not-legendary one? for example a Moltres if it could breed together with Ditto... you think the baby would be a, say, Growlithe? Of course not, It would be, I don't know, a new species, or another Moltres and it would still be a legendary.

Pokémon is in constant change, they created a new kind of legendary, maybe the only one of its kind -that can breed-, or at least so far, who says that maybe in next generations more and new legendaies will not be able to breed?? Maybe they would! People really need to start THINKING about the logic in here, and the BIG, really big POSIBILITY that it could be a legendary!--[[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 18:38, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

:Reviving this argument, I will just have what I hope to be my final say in this. Thus far, here are the facts:

Phione must be legendary because;
*It is bred from another legendary
*Its position in the Pokédex
*Genderless
*Pokémon.com said so

Phione CAN'T be a legendary because;
*Its stats are mediocre at best
**Legendaries have stats that are decent at the least.
*Inordinate amounts of them appeared in the anime, more than any legendary.
**It's rare to see more than one of any given species of legendary in the anime, let alone in the same episode. No less than six appeared in [[DP113]].
*It can breed, and therefore more than one per game cart can be easily obtained
**It's a well-known fact that legendaries are supposed to be one per game cart, outside of trading.

The points in the "Phione must be legendary" column are <strike>full of crap</strike> inconclusive because;
*Manaphy can breed to create Phione for the sole purpose of preventing the breeding of more Manaphy, which right there proves that legendaries are not supposed to breed. See, if legendaries were supposed to breed, Phione wouldn't even exist, as Manaphy would be able to create more of itself.
*Dratini, Larvitar, and their evolutions are sandwiched in between groups of legendaries in most Pokédex entries, and they're not legendaries.
*Voltorb, Magneton, Baltoy, Metang, and Rotom are all genderless. None of them are legendary.
*Pokémon.com also said that Shaymin's Sky Forme had Natural Cure, that Swallow was a new attack for Generation IV, and that there was a Staraptor in Jumping Rocket Ship. Also, the fact that they changed their answer denotes unsureness.

Now, let me get this through to you. I will say this once, and only once. I will only back down from my argument if, and only if, Satoshi Tajiri ''himself'' personally declares that Phione is a legendary. That, in my opinion, is the only source that will provide a definitive answer. I will accept nothing less. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] says: The [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] is real![[User talk: Missingno. Master|(talk page)]] 22:24, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:Pssssst. '''Legendary''' (''ˈlɛdʒənˌdɛri'') adj. '''1.''' of, pertaining to, or of the nature of a legend. // Phione is allegedly a bringer of good luck to those who see it; tourists flock to Chocovine just to get a glimpse of Phione. That hints at Phione being a rare Pokémon with uncommon abilities, both of which can be associated with a Pokémon of legend. [http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq41/PDLpics/23a814bea263b08a6dee29561e6906dae1d.gif] '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 22:40, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
::I am not getting mad at video games. I am getting mad at people mistaking Phione for a legendary. As for the anime, that actually proves nothing. In the anime, Phione are rare. In the anime, Metagross are damaged by Poison Tail. In the anime, wild Squirtle form troublemaking gangs. In the anime, Dustox can learn Stun Spore. In the anime, Geodude and Golem can be floored by Thunderbolt. In the anime, ahem, PIKACHU! AIM FOR THE HORN! In the games, Phione are easy to get. In the games, Metagross are unaffected by Poison Tail. In the games, there are no wild Squirtle. In the games, Dustox can't learn Stun Spore. In the games, no ground type can be harmed by Thunderbolt. My point being, the anime was made after the games, and do not necessarily need to conform to them. And they don't, in many cases. I admit, it was therefore wrong of me to drag the anime into this argument. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] says: The [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] is real![[User talk: Missingno. Master|(talk page)]] 22:50, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Just because you're too stubborn to admit that you're incorrect doesn't mean you're correct. <3 '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 23:06, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to drag up an old debate again, but I have another point that hasn't been mentioned yet and which crushes MM's arguments: If they didn't want Manaphies to breed Manaphies, then they wouldn't be breedable! --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 07:09, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

== Phione's advantages ==

* Does Phiones have any advantages that Manaphy doesn't have? If not, then what's the point? --[[User:Kid Sonic|Kid Sonic]] 00:13, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
:Irrelevant. Someone remove this. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 00:32, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
::That was rude. Now, in response to the question, Phione does not have any sort of advantage over Manaphy. All its stats are lower, and it doesn't learn any moves Manaphy can't. So no, there is no point other than keeping people from breeding multiple Manaphy. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:07, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
::Except they're not Manaphy. --[[User:Kid Sonic|Kid Sonic]] 05:03, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Exactly. It's there to piss you off because people would be all "O LOL I HAS MANAFY FROM EGG I PUT DAYCARE IT MAKE MOAR MANAFY I PUT ON GTS AND GET MEWTOO". And then you get Phione. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:14, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Random Something Thinks I ==

Why is Phione not in the No eggs group if it's genderless.{{u|Laxafett}}19:41, 18 December 2008(UTC)
:Because it has those egg groups in the game's internal data. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 19:48, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

== Battle Tower ==
I didn't see anyone mention this, surprisingly. But doesn't the fact that it can't be used in the battle tower (or any Frontier facility I'm assuming) prove it's legendary? Every other Pokemon restricted from being used there is a Legendary Pokemon... '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 21:46, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:Probably more because it's semi-event-exclusive, methinks. Not all legendaries are banned from there. All event-exclusive species are banned from there, however. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 21:47, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
::It's true that not all legendaries are banned, but I didn't say that anyway :p I said that all Pokemon that are banned are legendary. The converse isn't true though, as you so pointed out. However, the Aura Sphere-using Riolu from Ranger is also an Event Pokemon and it isn't banned, so there's a hole in your theory. '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 22:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I said event-exclusive SPECIES, and for exactly that reason. Riolu can easily be obtained outside an event. Phione, not so much. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:55, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

== Once and for all ==

As has been pointed out before and confirmed on Pokemon.com, Phione is a legendary Pokemon. If anyone has a more reliable source that says otherwise, such as a direct interview with someone in the franchise, please present it. Otherwise, I can't see how the debate can continue. Pokemon.com says so, and no one else has any other sources that say otherwise. Note that I only changed the intro paragraph. The trivia section already reflected it's legend status, and the page on Legendary Pokemon say it's a legend also. [[User:Randomspot555|Randomspot555]] 04:38, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

YES! Finally! Everybody knew it was in fact legendary. [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 19:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Legendary Status has been officially revoked. ==

From the Vol. 1, Pg.27 of the official Pokemon HeartGold & SoulSilver Version guide book: "Since Phione can be obtained by hatching Eggs, it is not classified as a Legendary Pokemon."

The guide book is published by [[The Pokémon Company International]], which is the same company that runs Pokemon.com, the website that originally confirmed it's Legendary status. Obviously they've changed their minds. --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 19:10, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
:''Well, well, well''. I was right the whole time! Now, I don't like to gloat.... Who am I kidding? I ''love'' to gloat! I was right, and you all were wrong! I'm off to change the page! - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 02:51, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::I think it is legendary. Why would the ''exact same'' company ban usage of it in VGC? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:53, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::For the exact same reason they banned Rotom until HG/SS came out. Event exclusive species (formes in Rotom's case). I knew it all along, the evidence was incontrovertible. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 02:58, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::I still don't feel comfortable about this... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:59, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh, well. If the Pokémon Company International, the exact same company in charge of the official Pokémon website, says Phione is not legendary, then it's not legendary. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 03:01, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::They've been wrong before. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:03, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Two things: If TPCi says it's not legendary, how ''else'' are we going to get official confirmation? It's not legendary. There. lol
:::::::The other thing is... you don't need to rub it in everyone's face that you were right. Seriously. Cut it out. >_> ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 03:05, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::...I think I remember My Pokémon Ranch calling it legendary... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:09, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::The Trivia section mentions the conflicting sources, isn't that good enough? Seriously. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 03:11, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::No. See, this is more definitive proof. See, the website, well, they could change it on a whim. But if they were to change their minds and declare Phione a legendary, they'd have to do something about these guidebooks. So if they put in the guidebooks that Phione is not a legendary, they must have been sure about it. Besides which, the conflicting online source no longer exists. If there are no further objections (that contain actual reasoning, not just moaning and whining from people who are just upset that they've been wrong the whole time), I will go ahead and unhide that bit in the intro to the article. It's been a pleasure winning this argument. In all seriousness, however, I am sorry if I came across as rude about this whole ordeal. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 14:27, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

(unindent) I don't see why we can't mention the controversy. If we're not going to cite our sources on a conflicted bit on information, we should at least bring out where it conflicts. That's what good reporting is about. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar{{#ifeq: |Night|_Night}}.png|Pokémon Dollar|link=Pokémon Dollar]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 23:55, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:MM, the source still exists. Origin.pokemon.com. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 23:57, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
::Oh, so it does. Well, it still doesn't change the fact that a more recent source from the same company has something different. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 01:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:::People should really not forget that guidebooks aren't always correct. Some say things like Cascoon can only be obtained at night, so it could be an error [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 01:35, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::OK... too much arguing here. First, I couldn't get origin.pokemon.com to work, much less access the mailbag... anyone care to put up a direct link to the specific mailbag that stated Phione's status? Also, I think that Phione should be considered not legendary as TPCI, the most official source in this matter other than TPC or the games themselves, has stated most recently (the HGSS guidebook) that it is not legendary. Arguments about "they could be wrong", "they couldn't be wrong", "they could sometime change their mind as they have before" are invalid, as they only serve to invalidate the other point of view whenever convenient. Its not an issue of the website or the guidebooks being more official, they are both equally official, but as the guidebook is the ''most recent'', Phione should be considered not legendary until TPCI or a more official source states otherwise. However, I believe that stating "it's not a legendary" in the lead of the article is unnecessary; we only put up when it ''is'' legendary, we do not go around and put up in every non-legendary's Pokémon article that it's not legendary.
::::That said, precisely because TPCI has contradicted itself before, and there have been numerous debates on this, I think an entire section explaining everything is in order, maybe under Trivia. I'd put it up in the article myself, but I don't wanna get into an edit war so I'll put it up here for everyone to approve/disapprove of first. Also, I think putting up dates the announcements were made might be necessary too. '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 04:24, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Keep this in mind: the guidebooks are written by idiots. They ''constantly'' screw stuff up and throw in their opinions, not Nintendo's, and their assumptions, not the game programming. It's said that Wurmple evolves depending on time, or on gender, and that was a persistent rumor during Gen III. But we ripped the games apart and verified that no, it's based on the PV. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:34, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::I want to point out here that the Media Factory guidebook (the one from which the English guidebook was translated) indeed states that Phione is not considered legendary. I can't be assed to take an actual picture, but [http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3330177/mfphione.jpg here have a blurry-as-hell webcam picture]. I assure you that it says exactly the same thing as in the English guidebook. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 04:59, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Then Manaphy isn't legendary either, I assume? And what of Unown? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Well, yes, the reasoning of "it's not legendary because it can breed" would exclude Manaphy as a legendary. Though Unown is a moot point, since the reasoning is not "every Pokémon that can't breed is a legendary"... But I digress. On the topic of the trustworthiness of the guides: yes, they have been inaccurate, but the site has contradicted itself also. My point is, they're both equally reliable (or unreliable). I mean, both are TPCI, or rather, people employed at TPCI who could make stuff up or make assumptions. So, we either take both as accurate (and the guide, as the most recent update, states how it is as of now) or neither, and therefore we CAN'T conclusively say Phione is or isn't a legendary. Now that I think of it, maybe that last one is for the best. '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 06:00, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

===Status as a legendary Pokémon===
When Phione was first discovered in the Pokémon games, there was much debate whether or not it should be considered as a [[legendary Pokémon]]. Some said it should be, citing its inability to evolve and its rarity (as it could only be bred initially from an already rare Manaphy), as well as its exclusive relationship to the indisputably legendary {{p|Manaphy}}. Others said it shouldn’t be considered legendary, mentioning its capacity to breed and be hatched from regular eggs, as well as its generally weak stats.
Even [[The Pokémon Company International]] has had conflicting announcements about Phione’s legendary status. Firstly, [[Pokemon.com]] mentioned in its mailbag that Phione was not a legendary Pokémon, but it was changed shortly thereafter, making Phione officially a legendary for a while. Recently, however, the official guidebook of {{2v|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, published also by TPCI, stated that Phione is not a legendary due to its ability to reproduce. Given that this is the latest official update on this Pokémon’s status, it is currently considered to not be a legendary Pokémon.

== Breeding ==
To keep consistency, doesn't Phione need a breeding section "By Breeding/None." I put it up bt someone deleted it >:( so do we need this section or not? It's on Rotom's and other other Pokes that can be obtained through breeding but have no egg moves. [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 01:42, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:Consistency is enjoyed. Plz to be putting it there. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:11, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry about that. I removed it because I thought I had seen other articles without a "by breeding" section. But I must have been wrong. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar{{#ifeq: |Night|_Night}}.png|Pokémon Dollar|link=Pokémon Dollar]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 22:30, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

== Legendary status ==

Thought I'd add this to the start of the article, to settle the legendary argument:

"Phione is considered by some to be a [[legendary Pokémon]]. However, due to the fact that it can breed and multiple individuals can be obtained, its legendary status remains disputed, with contradiction occuring even between official sources." [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 21:40, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

The new Pokémon Ranger game '''definitely''' confirms it as non-legendary. '''CASE CLOSED''' -'''[[User:Gengarzilla|I Liek Gengarz!]] [[User talk:Gengarzilla|Do Joo Liek Dem?]]''' 16:23, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
:It may not be referred to as legendary, but does it explicitly say Phione is ''not'' legendary? If not, then it is certainly not settled "once and for all". '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 08:17, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
::Black and White disagree it seems, as Phione is banned from the Battle Subway. The difference this time around? Zorua and Zoroark, also event Pokemon, are NOT banned, while Phione, despite being recently stated as non-legendary, is still banned. If someone can simply contact Game Freak themselves and not rely on a spin-off, THEN we can confirm it's status once and for all. Better to get the answer from it's original creator yes? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 00:40, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Zorua and Zoroark are slightly easier to get without an event, as you can merely trade for them over the GTS. If you talk to the silent boy in Hiun City, Zorua is recorded as "seen" in your Pokedex, and N uses a Zoroark, so you can search for them. Phione, on the other hand, cannot be seen in any games, and the only way to see Manaphy is to look at Backlot's book in Platinum. And even then there's no guarantee that anyone will trade you a Manaphy over the GTS. And seriously, Phione not being referred to as legendary or rare in Ranger:Guardian Signs when every legendary is? I'm pretty damn sure that can't be a coincidence. Please, let's not drag up this old argument again, as I still have my other valid points as to why Phione can't be legendary. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 00:45, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Honestly, until we get a confirmation directly from Game Freak themselves and not someone else saying it for them, Phione's status is still under debate it seems. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 00:47, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Besides it's not like Phione is breaking Metagames anytime soon unlike Zoroark with it's Illusion ability causing massive mind games..... Regardless of how it is found, Zoroark deserves a banning more than Phione in a way. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 00:49, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::Game Freak are unlikley to reply to any fan e-mails, even if sent in Japanese. But if Phione is confirmed as non-legendary, then a good bit of info for the Trivia section would be "Phione is the only non-legendary Pokemon not in any regional Pokedex." '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 00:53, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::I can be debated either way, but don't base if it's legendary or not based on Pokemon Ranger Games. Because according to Pokémon Ranger Celebi is not legendary it's "rare" :| [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 01:43, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Rare is still legendary. It's just that there are two kinds in Japanese "legendary" and "rare", which this game distinguishes between. Phione gets nothing as if it were a regular Pokémon (because it is). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:04, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Still.... I don't really like trusting spin-offs for this kind of information because sometimes they can make mistakes rather easily (Loads of places mislabel Wurmple's evolution as time based or gender based after all, with even the official site listing it incorrectly last time I checked the site years ago [Doesn't say evolution methods in the modern day site]). I think it's more of a safer opinion if we get an answer from Game Freak, even if they rarely answer, it still seems like a much better option as we can get the truth once and for all... [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 14:06, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Why is everyone making such a big deal out of this? In my opinion, Phione is a legendary Pokemon. However, I am not going to argue for or against it. All I have to say on this matter is this: 1. Since WHEN are side games the deciding factor on the status of the Pokemon.
2. The game does NOT say whether it is legendary or not.
Thus, I would never go so far as to base the status of this Pokemon on what the new ranger game says. I suggest we do not jump to conclusions and say flat out that it is not legendary. I say we just state that its status is disputed. Both sides of the argument have given ample evidence, but neither has any evidence that proves WITHOUT A DOUBT that they are right. I say we wait for an OFFICIAL statement on the matter. Till then, I'm not convinced either way (not that it matters). ([[User:Toolen|Toolen]] 03:00, 18 December 2010 (UTC))

On a side note, is their any way to contact Game Freak on this matter? ([[User:Toolen|Toolen]] 03:04, 18 December 2010 (UTC))
:Ample evidence? For: Pokémon.com mailbag entry (the whole mailbag has since been taken down). Against: Recent official HGSS game guide, Ranger GS. Game Freak would be highly unlikely to respond, even if we could contact them. The side game is not the sole proof, it's the tipping piece of evidence. Due to there no longer being any evidence to support it being legendary, and two pieces against, it is now considered not legendary. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:40, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Not to throw more wood onto the fire, but I noticed a user making this edit:

::"However, Director of GameFreak inc, Marc Parker, has stated that Phione is indeed a legendary after months of debating with Kacey Traver, the founder of http://www.smogon.com/"

:: What to make of this? --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 20:00, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
:::If we get a reliable source for that, I think we can change it back to being legendary. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:41, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

I've changed some of the wording in the article so it has a more neutral point of view; at this stage we can't really prove if Phione is legendary or not. If all official sources gave the same answer then of course the article could contain that information, but as the official sources contradict each other, it's best just not to say either way. Although Ranger does seem like the best source to go by, it's still not set in stone, and to say that Phione is not currently classed as legendary is still only Bulbapedia's opinion. Marc Parker's statement would be a good addition to the Trivia section if we can find a reference. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 19:55, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

== Just saying... ==
Phione is in the list of banned Pokémon from the official video game championship. The list only include legendary Pokémon, so... --[[User:SamuStar|SamuStar]] 17:19, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
:Or it is the only non-legendary Pokémon listed. Banlists are indications but not proof. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:21, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
::It's likely because Phione is technically event-only.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 15:53, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
and what about Zorua and Zoroark? They aren't banned --[[User:SamuStar|SamuStar]] 16:29, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Hey guys. I'm new. I have an idea. Phione could be semi-legendary! You know, like in Greek if a god has babies with a mortal, there's a demigod? It makes sense! [[User:Cela08|Cela08]] 16:10, 17 January 2012 (UTC)