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Bulbapedia:Project Pokédex

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[[Image:Project Pokédex logo.png|right]]
Some Bulbapedia members have formed a [[Bulbapedia:Project|project]] to better organise efforts to write and improve articles about '''Pokémon species'''. If you would like to help, please inquire on the [[{{NAMESPACE}} talk:{{PAGENAME}}|talk page]] or the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 Bulbapedia forum] and see the [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}}/To-do list]].

=Project Pokédex=
==Scope and aims==
'''Project Pokédex''' covers all articles about Pokémon species. Its goal is to produce the most comprehensive database on all Pokémon, from basic information on to the most technical aspects possible. It will also encompass any Pokémon Trading Card Game information, any relevant Anime information, and any other canon information which is relevant.

==Participants==
To join the project, simply add your name to the bottom of this list:

* {{u|Pie}}
* {{u|DanPMK}}
* {{u|Taylor}}
* {{u|Pokencyclopedia}}
* {{U|User142}}
* {{u|Thunda night}}
* {{u|Silverwing}}
* {{u|Admachina}}
* {{u|Fabu-Vinny}}
* {{u|Mudkiplover56}}
* {{u|Argy}}
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* {{u|bearfan121}}
* {{u|PokéZoe}}
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* {{u|Pikachu14}}
* {{u|MewUser}}
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* {{u|Boats}}
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* {{u|Dorian}}
* {{u|flame alex}}
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* {{U|PokePal}}
* {{u|pokeC}}
* {{u|Legopokemonplease}}
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* {{u|ShadowMasterGiratina}}
* {{u|Skoofi}}
* {{u|BlazeFireKitty}}
* [[User talk:Guardian|Guardian]]
* {{u|TorchicBlaziken}}
*{{u|Broloth}}

==Structure==
The best example articles for structure are {{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Charmander}} and {{p|Squirtle}}.

The Pokémon species articles are increasingly complex. However, to keep articles organized, the names, order and content of the sections should be according to the model below.

'''Refer to this model frequently when adding sections to a Pokémon species article, as the names, order and content of sections are all being standardized in all species articles. If you would like to update the model, please do so with regard to both the flow of the article and the standards set forth in Bulbapedia's {{bp|manual of style}}. Please consult other participants of the project on the talk page before making major changes to the model, particularly any regrouping or reorganizing of categories.'''

===Article model===

====Full====
The article should start off with the [[Template:PokémonPrevNext]] bar, followed by the Pokémon Infobox, followed by a general description of the Pokémon, including any special points (such as if it's a starter Pokémon in any games), a brief description of its abilities, and levels or ways in which the Pokémon evolves.

After this, it can be broken into three sections: general information, game statistics, and other information. Note that it is not broken down into these three sections within the articles themselves. Also note that the text for sections should not be indented within the text editor - it is merely indented here to aid in showing the heirarchy of sections.

'''General information'''
----

'''<nowiki>=Biology=</nowiki>'''
 Information in these subsections '''must''' be derived from a canon source, such as the Pokédex entries or the Pokémon anime. '''All speculative information will be removed.''' 
:'''<nowiki>==Physiology==</nowiki>'''
:A description of the Pokémon's physical structure, possible related Pokémon based on similarities, and any physical adaptations the Pokémon has made to its surroundings. Physical variations among members or groups of the species can also be noted here.
::'''<nowiki>===Gender differences===</nowiki>'''
::Any notable difference between males and females in the species, as one would note by comparing the Diamond and Pearl sprites. Alternate gender counterparts, such as with the two genders of Nidoran, are also linked to in this section.
::'''<nowiki>===Special abilities===</nowiki>'''
::A description of any unusual or elemental abilities the Pokémon often displays, such as those related to its elemental type. This is not a place for listing its [[ability]], despite the name; the ability should only be mentioned if it is relevant to this topic.
:'''<nowiki>==Behavior==</nowiki>'''
:A description of the Pokémon's behavior, both in the wild and after being captured.
:'''<nowiki>==Habitat==</nowiki>'''
:A description of regions where the Pokémon is commonly found.
:'''<nowiki>==Diet==</nowiki>'''
:'''<nowiki>''Main article: [[Pokémon food]]''</nowiki>'''
:All articles should link to the Pokémon food article rather than detail diet characteristics considered universal among Pokémon. Instead, this section should contain a description of any notable or unusual points about the Pokémon's diet.
'''<nowiki>=In the anime=</nowiki>'''
 Only added if the Pokémon appears in the anime. Please link to the Pokémon anime article at the start of this section.
 First, any details about the Pokémon species exclusive to the anime. Then, any episodes, movies, and specials from the Pokémon anime where the Pokémon has made an appearance, and a detailed description of their importance and role. For recurring Pokémon, only their first appearance, last appearance, and any particularly important appearances should be listed, with links to the specific Pokémon's article where further details can be found. Appearances should be listed chronologically, regardless of importance. 
'''<nowiki>=In the manga=</nowiki>'''
 Only added if the Pokémon appears in a manga series.
 This section should be broken down by manga series, divided and listed in the order of Pokémon Special, Electric Tale of Pikachu, Pokémon PiPiPi Adventure, Pokémon Chamo-Chamo ☆ Pretty ♪, and then any other Pokémon manga.
 For each series: Please link to the series in the subsection header. First, any details about the Pokémon species exclusive to that manga series. Then, volumes of Pokémon manga in which the Pokémon has made an appearance, and a detailed description of their importance and role. For recurring Pokémon, only their first appearance, last appearance, and any particularly important appearances should be listed, with links to the specific Pokémon's article where further details can be found. Appearances should be listed chronologically, regardless of importance. 
'''<nowiki>=In the TCG=</nowiki>'''
 Only added if the Pokémon appears in the TCG. Please link to the Pokémon Trading Card Game article at the start of this section.
 All cards in the TCG featuring members of the Pokémon species. Details universal to all of the Pokémon's cards may be added, but essentially, this section should be more or less a list with links to the cards' articles themselves. (To expand said card articles, please see the {{bp|Project TCGDex}}.) 
'''<nowiki>=In the TFG=</nowiki>'''
 Only added if the Pokémon appears in the TFG. Please link to the Pokémon Trading Figure Game article at the start of this section.
 All figures in the TFG featuring members of the Pokémon species. Details universal to all of the Pokémon's figures may be added, but essentially, this section should be more or less a list with links to the figures' articles themselves. (To expand said figure articles, please see the {{bp|Project TFGDex}}.) 
'''<nowiki>=Other appearances=</nowiki>'''
 Places where the Pokémon has been featured in non-Pokémon canon, such as the Super Smash Bros. series. Only added if the Pokémon appears outside of canon. If there is an article on the series in Bulbapedia, please link to it in the subsection header. Otherwise, please link to the appropriate article on Wikipedia in the subsection header.

'''Game statistics'''
----
'''<nowiki>=Game data=</nowiki>'''
:'''<nowiki>==NPC appearances==</nowiki>'''
:Details of Pokémon in all games (sans Smash Bros. series) which are seen but cannot be caught. Only add as necessary.
:'''<nowiki>==Pokédex entries==</nowiki>'''
:A list of the Pokédex entries for the Pokémon in every game which it appears. Please link to the different games' articles, coupling the paired games when the information for them is the same, as well as the Pokédex article itself. 
:'''<nowiki>==Game locations==</nowiki>'''
:Details on the location and rarity of Pokémon in the primary games. Please link to the different games' articles, coupling the paired games when the information for them is the same, as well as the Rarity article. Please link to all locations named in the table, since articles will have the specific rates of appearance for the area. Named locations are listed first in order of appearance in the game, followed by Routes in numerical order with each number linking to the appropriate route. Different methods of capturing, such as in the wild versus fishing, have a break between them.
::'''<nowiki>===In side games===</nowiki>'''
::Details on the location in non-standard games like Pokémon Snap, Pokémon Mystery Dungeon, and Pokémon Ranger. Please have the games in a bulleted list with details. For the Stadium games, assume regular rental Pokémon are common knowledge; do not add it to the list unless it has more information about its appearance, such as prizes, special Pokémon, ones in minigames, or if the moveset information for rentals within the individual Cups is provided as well.
:'''<nowiki>==Base statistics==</nowiki>'''
:The Pokémon's base statistics, presented in a bar graph form. 
:''Note: This section may be undergoing changes soon, due to complaints about the bar graph format.'' 
:'''<nowiki>==Type effectiveness==</nowiki>'''
:How well types affect the Pokémon, based on its own type and base stats. Currently, all articles should follow the DP Type Effectiveness format.
:'''<nowiki>==Learnset==</nowiki>'''
:Moves the Pokémon can learn. ''Sections should not be added if the Pokémon learns no moves in such a manner. In particular, this applies to the Special moves subsection - do not add this section to an article if there are currently no moves the Pokémon can learn through a special method.''
::'''<nowiki>===By leveling up===</nowiki>'''
::Table format.
::'''<nowiki>===By TM/HM===</nowiki>'''
::Table format.
::'''<nowiki>===By breeding===</nowiki>'''
::Table format. For each, please list all potential fathers which the Pokémon can inherit the move from. Do not, however, clutter the article with descriptions of how the fathers can learn the move. Instead, link to the father's article - details on how the father can learn the move should be listed on that article.
::'''<nowiki>===By tutoring===</nowiki>'''
::Bulleted list format.
::'''<nowiki>===Special moves===</nowiki>'''
::Any techniques which a Pokémon can learn in a special way, like Pikachu's Surf or a move learned after purification in Pokémon XD.
:'''<nowiki>==Side game data==</nowiki>'''
:Table format. Note any factors that differ between species as well as any equivalent to Pokédex entries that the game may have.
:'''<nowiki>==Evolution==</nowiki>'''
:The Pokémon's detailed evolution chain, shown as different sprites in boxes.
:'''<nowiki>==Sprites==</nowiki>'''
:Sprites of the Pokémon from all [[main series]] games, using the {{template|Sprite}} template.

'''Other information'''
----

'''<nowiki>=Trivia=</nowiki>'''
 Any facts which do not fit well into any other section. This includes beta names and relations to any glitch Pokémon, such as if a glitch uses pieces of its sprite or will evolve into it. 
:'''<nowiki>==Origin==</nowiki>'''
:Plants, animals, myths, and anything else which may have served as inspiration for the Pokémon's design.
::'''<nowiki>===Name origin===</nowiki>'''
::Possible base words and inspirations for the Pokémon's name in English and Japanese.
:'''<nowiki>==In other languages==</nowiki>'''
:The Pokémon's name in languages besides English and Japanese. Possible base words and inspirations for these names may also be added.
'''<nowiki>=Related articles=</nowiki>'''
 A bulleted list of any relevant articles, such as specific characters of the Pokémon in the anime or manga. TCG and TFG link lists should remain in their own sections and not be inlcuded in this subsection. 
'''<nowiki>=External links=</nowiki>'''
 A bulleted list of links to other pages, such as the Pokémon's entry on Wikipedia, or fan shrines for the Pokémon. Links to the Pokémon's entry in a Pokédex section of another website should be included in the infobox, not the external links section. 

After this, there should be another [[Template:PokémonPrevNext]] bar, followed by a [[Template:Project Pokédex notice]] box to finish the article.

====Abbreviated====
This format is for quick reference, when checking to see if an article matches the model. Headers which are in bold are required for all articles. Other headers should only be added when applicable.
'''=Biology='''
'''==Physiology=='''
'''===Gender differences==='''
'''===Special abilities==='''
'''==Behavior=='''
'''==Habitat=='''
'''==Diet=='''
'''<nowiki>''Main article: [[Pokémon food]]''</nowiki>'''
=In the anime=
=In the manga=
=In the TCG=
=In the TFG=
=Other appearances=
'''=Game data='''
==NPC appearances==
'''==Pokédex entries=='''
'''==Game locations=='''
'''===In side games==='''
'''==Base statistics=='''
'''==Type effectiveness=='''
'''==Learnset=='''
===By leveling up===
===By TM/HM===
===By breeding===
===By tutoring===
===Special moves===
'''==Side game data=='''
'''==Evolution=='''
'''==Sprites=='''
=Trivia=
==Origin==
===Name origin===
==In other languages==
=Related articles=
=External links=

===Tables within the articles===
Basic formatting for a Pokémon species article table is as follows:

<nowiki>{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"</nowiki>
 |- style="background: #COLOR;"
 ! Heading
 ! Heading
 |-
 | Content
 | Content
 |}

Replace the "COLOR" with the template for the color code of the Pokémon's primary type - or, if their primary type is Normal and they have a secondary type, the color code of the Pokémon's secondary type. The template's name is the type name and "color". For example, <nowiki>{{grass color}}</nowiki> is the template for a Grass-type Pokémon.

==Goals==
# Expand Pokémon pages to have at least a paragraph of information about a Pokémon, preferably background information on that Pokémon. The {{p|Bulbasaur}} page is a good example of a simple introduction paragraph.
# Add all locations in all games, including the side games ([[Pokémon Snap]], [[Pokémon Pinball]], [[Pokémon Pinball: Ruby/Sapphire]], [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]], [[Pokémon Trozei!]], and [[Pokémon Ranger]], to name some of the more important ones).
# Add all movelists.
# Add [[Pokédex]] text info from games, where applicable.
# Add Biology information to each Pokémon species article.
# Add information on any appearances in the anime, including the specific episodes.
# Add information on any appearances in all manga, including the series and volume.
# List all released cards of the Pokémon.

==Infoboxes==
When entering information into any of the infoboxes, make sure to preview before saving the page, to make sure that you've entered everything right. If you don't know something, leave it blank.
* {{Template|PokémonInfobox}}

{| border=1 style="background: #f8f8ff; border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse; float: right; margin: 0 0 0.5em 0.5em;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
| colspan="2" style="background: #ccf; text-align: center;" | '''Bulbasaur''' '''フシギダネ''' ''Fushigidane''
|-
| colspan="2" style="text-align: center; background: #fff;" | [[Image:001Bulbasaur.png]] Artwork from FR/LG
|-
| style="text-align: right;" | '''[[List of Pokémon by National Dex number|National Dex]]'''
| #001
|-
| style="text-align: right;" | '''[[List of Pokémon by Johto Dex number|Johto Dex]]'''
| #226
|-
| style="text-align: right;" | '''[[List of Pokémon by Hoenn Dex number|Hoenn Dex]]'''
| #203
|-
| style="text-align: right;" | '''[[List of Pokémon by Sinnoh Dex number|Sinnoh Dex]]'''
| #-
|-
| style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;" | '''[[Elemental types|Type]]'''
| [[Grass (type)|Grass]] / [[Poison (type)|Poison]]
|-
| style="text-align: right;" | '''Species'''
| Seed
|-
{{PokémonInfobox/Abilities/1|Overgrow|}}
|-
{{PokémonInfobox/Egg groups/2|Monster|Plant}}
|-
| style="text-align: right;" | '''[[Effort values|Effort yield]]'''
| 1 SpA
|-
| style="text-align: right;" | '''[[Experience|Exp. yield]]'''
| 64 base exp.
|-
| style="text-align: right;" | '''[[Experience|Lv100 at]]'''
| 1,059,860 exp.
|-
| style="text-align: right;" | '''Gender'''
| {{PokémonInfobox/Gender/both|12.5|87.5}}
|-
| style="text-align: right;" | '''[[Catch rate]]'''
| 45
|-
| colspan="2" style="font-size: 0.90em;" |
* [http://pokefor.greenchu.de/zukan/gba/pokemon/bulbasaur/ Bulbasaur on PokéFor Pokédex]
* [http://www.smogon.com/dex.php?p=pokemon&q=bulbasaur Bulbasaur on Smogon Pokédex]
* [http://eevee.racso.com/dex.pl?entry=bulbasaur Bulbasaur on Eevee's Pokédex]
|}
To make the infobox at the right appear in the article, paste this into it:
<pre>
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Bulbasaur |
jname=フシギダネ |
tmname=Fushigidane |
image=001Bulbasaur.png |
caption=Artwork from FR/LG |
ndex=001 |
jdex=226 |
hdex=203 |
fdex=001 |
sdex=- |
typen=2 |
type1=Grass |
type2=Poison |
species=Seed |
height-ftin=2'04" |
height-m=0.7 |
weight-lbs=15.2 |
weight-kg=6.9 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Overgrow |
ability2= |
egggroupn=2 |
egggroup1=Monster |
egggroup2=Plant |
effortyield=1 SpA |
expyield=64 |
lv100exp=1,059,860 |
gender=both |
female=12.5 |
male=87.5 |
color=Green |
catchrate=45 |
generation=1 |
pokefordex=bulbasaur |
footnotes=}}
</pre>
Change all stats to those of the Pokémon in question.
 
*{{Template|Availability}}

{{Availability|
type=grass |
gen=1 |
rbrarity=One |
rbarea=[[Starter Pokémon]] from [[Professor Oak]] in [[Pallet Town]] |
yrarity=One |
yarea=Recieved from a girl in [[Cerulean City]] if {{p|Pikachu}}'s [[happiness]] is high enough |
frlgrarity=One |
frlgarea=[[Starter Pokémon]] from [[Professor Oak]] in [[Pallet Town]] |
dprarity=None |
dparea=[[Pal Park]] |
palarea=Field |
}}
To make the above appear, copy and paste what follows into the article:
<pre>
{{Availability|
type= |
gen= |
rbrarity= |
rbarea= |
yrarity= |
yarea= |
gsrarity= |
gsarea= |
crarity= |
carea= |
rsrarity= |
rsarea= |
erarity= |
earea= |
frlgrarity= |
frlgarea= |
colorarity= |
coloarea= |
xdrarity= |
xdarea= |
dprarity= |
dparea= |
palarea= |
}}
</pre>
Rarity and Area refer to how common or uncommon a Pokémon is. What precedes them are the initials of the versions that the specific instance applies to, [[Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|RB]], [[Pokémon Yellow Version|Y]], [[Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|GS]], [[Pokémon Crystal Version|C]], [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|RS]], [[Pokémon Emerald Version|E]], [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FRLG]], [[Pokémon Colosseum|Colo]], [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|XD]], and [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|DP]]. For example, whatever is entered into the frlgarea should be where the Pokémon can be found in FireRed and LeafGreen. Likewise, frlgrarity should be how rare the Pokémon is in FireRed and LeafGreen. If only one is found, such as is the case with {{p|Mewtwo}}, put "One". If it can only be found through evolution, put "None" and for the area prompt put "[[Evolve]] (pre-evolution)", replacing (pre-evolution) with the name of the Pokémon it evolves from. Likewise, if it is only available through breeding, put "None" and in the area prompt put "[[Breed]] (evolutions)", replacing (evolutions) with the Pokémon that must produce the egg.

Rarity defaults to "None", Area defaults to "[[Trade]]". Therefore, if it can only be found through [[Pal Park]] in Diamond and Pearl, this must be entered in the dparea prompt. If a Pokémon is only available in one of a pair of versions, put the version it is available in in parentheses after the area. If it is a [[Shadow Pokémon]] found in Colosseum or XD, put <nowiki>[[Shadow Pokémon|Shadow]]</nowiki> in parentheses after the area.

* {{Template|Dex}}

{{Dex
|type=grass
|redbluedex=A strange seed was planted on its back at birth. The plant sprouts and grows with this Pokémon.
|yellowdex=It can go for days without eating a single morsel. In the bulb on its back, it stores energy.
|golddex=The seed on its back is filled with nutrients. The seed grows steadily larger as its body grows.
|silverdex=It carries a seed on its back right from birth. As it grows older, the seed also grows larger.
|crystaldex=While it is young, it uses the nutrients that are stored in the seeds on its back in order to grow.
|rubydex=Bulbasaur can be seen napping in bright sunlight. There is a seed on its back. By soaking up the sun's rays, the seed grows progressively larger.
|sapphiredex=Bulbasaur can be seen napping in bright sunlight. There is a seed on its back. By soaking up the sun's rays, the seed grows progressively larger.
|emeralddex=Bulbasaur can be seen napping in bright sunlight. There is a seed on its back. By soaking up the sun's rays, the seed grows progressively larger.
|firereddex=There is a plant seed on its back right from the day this Pokémon is born. The seed slowly grows larger.
|leafgreendex=A strange seed was planted on its back at birth. The plant sprouts and grows with this Pokémon.
|stadiumdex=The bulb-like pouch on its back grows larger as it ages. The pouch is filled with numerous seeds.
|stadium2dex=The seed on its back is filled with nutrients. The seed grows steadily larger as its body grows.
|colosseumdex=Lives in forests away from people. It stores electricity in its cheeks for zapping an enemy if it is attacked.
|}}
To make the above appear, copy and paste what follows in the article:
<pre>
{{Dex
|type=
|gen=
|redbluedex=
|yellowdex=
|golddex=
|silverdex=
|crystaldex=
|rubydex=
|sapphiredex=
|emeralddex=
|firereddex=
|leafgreendex=
|stadiumdex=
|stadium2dex=
|colosseumdex=
|xddex=
|diamonddex=
|pearldex=
|}}
</pre>
If an entry is unknown, delete the tag for it (that's the stuff between the | and the =, as well as the | and =). This will put the page into a category so that someone who knows what the entry is can put it in.

* {{template|Sprite}}
{{Sprite|
type=grass|
gen=1|
gender=none|
ndex=001|
name=Bulbasaur|
}}
To make the above appear, copy and paste what follows in the article:
<pre>
{{Sprite
|type=
|gen=
|gender=
|ndex=
|name=
|}}
</pre>
Type should be the Pokémon's primary type (or Flying if the Pokémon is {{t|Normal}}/{{t|Flying}}). Gen should be the Pokémon's introduction generation (1 for Pokémon #001-151, 2 for Pokémon #152-251, 3 for Pokémon #252-386, 4 for Pokémon #387-493). If the Pokémon have a gender difference, put 'both', otherwise put 'none'. Ndex should be the Pokémon's [[National Dex]] number, and name should be the name of the Pokémon.

Note: We have relatively few of the sprites uploaded to the Bulbagarden Archives. Please, if you can, try to upload some before adding the template to the page. Make sure, of course, to upload them to the correct, standardized filename.

==Other templates==
* {{Template|Project Pokédex notice}} -- to be used at the bottom of every Pokémon article.

{{Project Pokédex notice}}

* {{Template|User Project Pokédex}} -- for project participants to place in their user profile.

{{User Project Pokédex}}
 

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==Subprojects==
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==Related projects==
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Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Archive 3

2008-08-04T06:42:24Z

Broloth: /* Biology */

==Previous discussions==
* [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Archive 2|Archive 2]]

== About external links and fan shrines... ==

I couldn't help but notice that within the Project Pokedex section, it is mentioned that Pokemon can receive not only wikipedia links but fan shrine links, too.

Now, before I jumped ahead of myself, I checked a few of the obviously more popular Pokemon, like Eevee or Pikachu. You can't go wrong with that. What I noticed is that the only fan stuffs listed is fanlistings, though. While that's something, it is what it is... a list. Granted, Poke-centric (that is, non human) shrines seem to be hard to come by in the 'States for some reason.

So, my question is, what would I have to do to get a fan shrine listed? Does there have to meet certain requirements? Is it necessary that it's a fanlisting? The site is in English, in case you're wondering. I know the ratio of Japanese artsy Poke-centric sites to US ones is extremely skewed in their favor, so I can see where that could be a concern, if a concern at all.
--[[User:Nidorino|Nidorino]] 16:56, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
:I would say in this matter, it's more quality that matters than notability. If you have a site that is good enough to be of interest to someone looking for some sort of information on the Pokémon - go ahead and add it. But if it's something that's low-quality and not useful, expect to see the link removed shortly after.
:Also, I would rule that foreign language sites can also be included - but with stricter inclusion standards, at the bottom of the external links list, and with its language included in parentheses so people don't click expecting an English site and get something in a different language. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 18:03, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

::Well, it's actually more interesting and for leisure than it is informational. I sorta made it both because I thought the Nidoran line was severely underappreciated and I got a little tired of the thousands of informational Pokemon sites but no fun multimedia ones. I suppose for what it's worth, it'll probably be really nice for any Pokemon fan since there's lots to see and do (for a Nido centric site, it's actually doing really well), I put a ''lot'' of work into it as well.

::The quality lies in the content, I go all out on what talents I have all for the sake of Nido Pokemon. There's also people who share the same idea, so a lot of contributions have come from people all over, it's probably ''one of'' the biggest Nido fan gatherings, which truthfully isn't a hard goal to aspire for considering the Pokemon in question. My main reasoning behind it, though, is that I just think that Nido fans shouldn't be left out of the picture, considering I know how hard it is to find anything interesting about them at all.

::So I guess what it comes down to is what one wants. It someone's trying to read hard facts, well, they could do that anywhere. But if someone's looking for something fun and different, that's the goal I want to accomplish.

::Would that still be okay?--[[User:Nidorino|Nidorino]] 18:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

== Biology ==

There's been a bit of controversy over the content in the biology section of {{p|Typhlosion}}'s article. It may be an idea to keep an eye over the stuff that goes in that section. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:13, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
:... how in the world did we miss that? D: --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 00:34, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Darn, i want to know what it says lol [[User:Broloth|Broloth]] 06:42, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

==Diamond and Pearl Pokéradar==
In relation to the Pokeradar in Daimond and Pearl. Should it be mentioned in the Rarity section like [[Nidoran♀ (Pokémon)]] or in the Location section like [[Venonat (Pokémon)]]. Just asking so that there can be some consistancy in the articles. [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 08:44, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
:Do we need to point out that the Pokéradar Pokémon are rare? If not, we have a free space to fit it in:
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{poison color}};"
! Game
! [[Rarity]]
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl]] || [[Pokéradar]] || [[Route 201]]
|}
:Otherwise, I prefer how Venonat looks. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 17:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:They aren't always rare. And I've been adding in an availability template to Pokémon pages:

{{Availability|
type=ice |
gen=3 |
rsrarity=Few |
rsarea=[[Shoal Cave]] |
erarity=Few |
earea=[[Shoal Cave]] |
dprarity=Rare |
dparea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|216}} and {{rtn|217}}, [[Acuity Lakefront]] ([[Poké Radar]]) |
}}

That's what {{p|Snorunt}} has. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 01:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

::I'm missing how that template affects the current issue. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 21:50, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. So what about those in the Trophy Garden but need the pokéradar to be found. Should this be mentioned in the location section as well as that they are found in the Trophy Garden? The question was raised when looking at the [[Meowth]] page.

:Yes, it should mention on both pages. And the page is on {{p|Meowth}}, [[Meowth]] is a disambiguation page, so you'd better use the {{template|p}} template. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 18:22, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
::Ok but what about the PokéRadar in the Trophy Garden?[[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 10:03, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::What do you mean? '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 00:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
::::All of the pokemon that change daily in the Trophy Garden eg Happiny, Porygon and Mime Jr. require Pokeradar to find. Should this be mentioned in the template's location section? [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 06:34, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::Do they? If so, well, do like Snorunt. Put "[[Trophy Garden]] ([[Poké Radar]])" in the dparea thing. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:50, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::The Trophy Garden Pokémon '''don't''' need Poké Radar. You just need to walk around a lot. - - - '''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 09:20, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

DONE THANKS GUYS [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 11:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

==Tiers==
Might it be a good idea to create a category for each tier of Pokémon, as of Diamond/Pearl? It would be a bit easier for people to find out what tier their Pokémon is by just scrolling down, as opposed to navigating to the [[list of tiers]] page.
:Well, I dunno, it's really more arbitrary than others. For example, I consider Gorebyss to be pretty good, but I've never used Skarmory. And let's not forget that the list of tiers is in need of cleanup; it seems pretty damn opinionated (and that's not because it says that Typhlosion is "not recommended for use outside of its tier"). After all, any Pokémon can be good if you can figure out how to make it that way. Heck, it's my opinion that the list of tiers is the same sort of "we'll tell you how to play Pokémon and not let you have fun" thing as that recommended movesets thing that was here a while back. Also, don't forget to sign comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 02:23, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
::Whoops, sorry about that. Fair point I guess, but it might be handy for competitive players in particular kinds of battle, Never-Used for example. [[User:Blink|Blink]] 15:20, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
:::True, but eh. We have many of their level-up movesets, and most of their learnable TMs and HMs listed, as well as their base stats. Itdoes take a bit of investigating, still, to see whether the move in question on their list is Physical or Special, though, but as for how to change this? Beats me...
:::I do think, however, that that would be a better thing to do. Let people make up their own strategies, we'd possibly get more variety in teams. After all, I know that I figured out that Typhlosion wasn't as good with variety on my own, since it can barely learn any Special moves that aren't Fire, but it took me a bit of searching. I'm gonna do some experimenting in my sandbox about how to indicate the Physical/Special/Status moves in my sandbox. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 01:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Are tiers just a fandom thing, or was there ever an official list published, even for RSE/FRLG etc?[[User:Blink|Blink]] 14:45, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
← 
Far as I know they're just a fandom thing. I've never seen an official Nintendo list that says, outright "CATERPIE SUCKS NEVER EVER EVER USE IT." even if '''''everyone''''' knows this to be true. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 19:25, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

So any pokemon can be useful eh? Weedle vs. T-Tar lol.
:Nintendo hasn't said not, therefore, yes, Weedle vs Tyranitar is fine. Frickin' go for it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 03:33, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

First off I want to say that not only does the Tier List need to be made more easily accessible, but a list of Items banned from competitive play would be nice too. I know Quick Claw and Focus Band is out of the question, but Im sure there are more that I don't know about.
Now onto the business at hand.Nintendo actually has hinted at the fact that their are "tiers" in the game. If we look at the Battle Tower in D/P (for example) most of the ubers aren't allowed. The reason Wobbuffett was put on the list was because if two Wobbuffett started off against each other in metagame, you'd have a 65 - 70 turn snoozefest on your hands. The reason Latios and Latias aren't on the in-game uber list, is because not everybody has Soul Dew. The game was designed with balance in mind. Pokemon like Weedle and Caterpie do have a tier called NFE (Not Fully Evolved) now granted some Pokemon are good if NFE (i.e. Trapinch and Pikachu) some Pokemon were designed to not compete with others. Sure you can fight Weedle versus Tyranitar, and sure no one is going to tell you "no you can't do that", but there will be people telling you that Weedle vs. Tyranitar is not too hot of an idea. Flareon is a perfect example of Nintendo designing a Pokemon to not compete with others, you don't think Nintendo didn't realize "we gave a very physical attack oriented Pokemon very few choices when it came to physical attacks" do you? Regigigas is another example, they made sure it didn't get Protect or Rest. And no, Nintendo will never release a list saying "these Pokemon are good, these Pokemon are ok, these Pokemon suck" no company would ever do that cause it would completely take away from the game; Blizzard for instance will never say "rogues are the best kekekek" because then everyone would be rolling rogue. Just like Nintendo will never say "teams without Garchomp in it are destined to fail"; and we must remember that the Tiers Lists are for competitive play, it is indeed very possible to defeat the Elite Four and the Champion using UU and NU Pokemon, but in WiFi games, no a Lopunny will not be able to legitimately beat a Physical Dragonite 1v1. Imagine how annoying it would be to fight an Elite Four member with all OU Pokemon using Hax Items that didn't follow standard battle rules. First battle Bug, Choice Scarf Parasect to Spore EVERYONE of your Pokemon, Choice Band Heracross rocking people who can't counter it, Agility sweeping Life Orb Scizor bending over everything that wasn't resistant to Steel Bug and Fighting, Shuckle, sitting there with its 614 max defenses with only 3 weaknesses, 2 not being too common, Yanmega scouting us for attacks and passing on its speed to someone really slow, and then Pinsir with a bone to pick with whatever was left. Then we'd have Pokemon like a max Cursed out Snorlax getting Quick Claw procs, or Garchomps with Bright Powder milking the fruits of Tyranitar's labor. That's all I'll say for now, and props to whoever is able to read all this. [[User:Broloth|Broloth]] 06:33, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

== Learnsets ==

Okay, I know we'll all agree that other sites that indicate the type and category of a move on the Pokémon's page are helpful for quick lookers. Sure, we shouldn't add power, accuracy, PP, and all that, but at the very least the type and category of the move.

[[User:TTEchidna/Sandbox/Bulbasaur|So this is what I've come up with for Bulbasaur]]. It still indicates STAB, if a person's too lazy to scroll up to see what types the Pokémon is, and for Gen IV, it indicates Physical/Special in addition to type so that a person can pick out moves depending on the stats of the Pokémon as well as its types.

Thoughts? I certainly think that this could make the Pokémon pages much better than they are. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:I think you could be on to something here. It even looks a bit better, aesthetically speaking, than the current table. [[User:Blink|Blink]] 19:24, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

:: Looks very nice. I feel sorry for you though, having to do that 492 more times. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 06:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah... unless I get some help... '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 06:32, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
::::That's very good. I like the layout better than the current one, since it seems easier to read and clearly shows whether a move is physical, special or status. -[[User:DarkMazer|DarkMazer]] 03:37, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Now the best question. Wanna help me add them to all the rest?

Also: I have a new, possibly more improved proposal. [[User:TTEchidna/Sandbox/Bulbasaur/Future|Check it out]]. This way, when we get Gen V, VI, VII, and so on... we won't have to move stuff around besides the current moveset. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 10:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
: I like your design. *nod* I would say leave it as separate tables on the same pages for Gen V but when we get to Gen VI change it to separate pages altogether. Though that would be a lot of work of converting all the pages. Perhaps we should start changing the pages once we hear Gen VI will be released? (If it does :P)'''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 19:58, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
::Wouldn't really be much work, per se, if we already have all of the movesets organized into those tables-within-tables like Bulbasaur and some others have. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:45, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
:::So when can we get started on changing them? - - - '''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 10:16, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

== Body shape ==

In GenIV, rather than by colour, Pokémon are able to be searched by a general body shape... Unfortunately, these categories are all symbols rather than names. This would make it hard to be included here, but I thought I'd put forth the idea anyway: Sort Pokémon by body shape, like we do with colour. The first thing, though, is that we'd have to come up with an agreeable standard on what each category should be named (since it doesn't do that for us). Just putting forth the idea for discussion, and whether or not the community thinks it would be useful. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 04:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
:We definately want to have some coverage on it but, as you say, it's going to be diffcult to implement. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:10, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::So, anyone got any ideas for this? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
:::How about we get the sprites from the game for it? As for the category.. um.. "Body Shape 1 Pokémon", etc? That's a suggestion I have. {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{Ani|380}} 03:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
::::But who'll say which is which? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

== Alternate Coloration ==

I've been having plans for starting a subsection to the biology section that describes a Pokémon's alternate coloring. But the thing is, TinatheKirlia told me that such a subsection would be unnecessary because the sprite templates on each article. But I (was with TTEchidna, apparently) believe that describing what a Pokémon's shiny version looks like would be better.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 20:10, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
:It seems no more redundant than describing the normal form in the first place... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 22:47, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::Eh, I really think that there are more important things than telling what color a Pokémon is when shiny, but most especially since the sprites do so, and easily demonstrate the differences among the generations (Bulbasaur itself is tan in Gen II, but green with a dark green bulb in III and IV). '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Sometimes the shiny colors (I think this is why) in GenII is because of the limitations of the GBC. Some simple colors, such as [[Red Gyarados]], stay but others such as Bulbasaur and Charizard get a little discolored, because of the limitations.
:::I dunno, but that's my guess. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 23:33, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

::::Sorry about that misunderstanding, TTE. I thought you were agreeing with me.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 23:23, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

== pronunciation ==

Just relizing that I had "THE OFFICIAL Pokémon Handbook" infront of me. I always hated not knowing how to say the names correctly and in this book it says how is it possible to add a section for the first genneration Pokémon. (That's the only handbook I currently have from my school library).--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 01:32, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I have all of the series of those offical handbooks.................(but what does that have to do with Project Pokédex?????) --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 01:35, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

well they have the pronunciation on every Pokémon shouldn't we put how to say the name of the Pokémon on their page?--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 01:39, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Most people know how to say it......but it's an idea........--[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 02:00, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I say this because I'm always fighting with my bro (who is 24) about how to say kyogre
He says it as if it was katakana and I disagree.--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 02:03, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

:It would be a useful addition to the infoboxes. The main question is if there is an official source for beyond the first generation. (Since some people insist that the dub pronounces things wrong for some reason.) I know we got Bonsly confirmed from PUSA but not of any source for the rest. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

well I have the handbooks of the second generation, and the third generation as well. --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 00:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:I usually pronounce Kyogre as Kai-oh-great (minus the t at the end). But the anime is Kai-oh-ge... '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]Hi''' 13:52, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I usually pronounce it Kai-oh-ger.
How do i participate in Project Pokédex.
Where exactly is the evolution box on the page.

Woot Glih-score Gly-score debates =D and i don't trust the anime 100% of the time, i still think it's swee - kune, not soo-wee-soon let's not for get that english dubs aren't always right (i.e. Krillin vs. Kuririn, or Tien vs. Tenshinhan.)

== R/S sprites ==

I know you guys aren't done uploading them, but are we gonna do the R/S sprites? Even though we have the Emerald ones... the R/S ones are half distracting. I dunno, just wondering.. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 19:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:All sprites means ''all'' of 'em. The only problem I see us running into is the shiny Emerald sprites. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 19:19, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

== Shadow ==

So um... where should we put info on the Shadow Pokémon? Probably under Game info, or Game locations.. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:That'd be a good idea, as a subsection of that. Like...

:Probaly under Game Info..... [[Image:Ani234MS.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|MERRY]] [[Image:Ani385MS.gif]] [[User talk:Theryguy512|CHRISTMAS]][[Image:Ani225MS.gif]] 23:55, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

===Shadow (name)===
In (Colo/XD) a [[Shadow Pokémon|Shadow]] (name) can be found in (location), trained by (trainer). Its moves are (moves) and, when purified, it learns (moves).

'''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 22:03, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:We already have this information. The location table notes which Pokémon are shadow and the moves are noted under the moveset heading. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:45, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

== Size and Weight ==

Hello, I'd like to discuss about the weight and size of Pokémon we display in the pokédex pages, I think they should be there, but they are not. (if they are and I don't see it, please notice me :-])
what do you think?
[[User:MewUser|MewUser]] 11:32, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
:That information is in the infobox of every article... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 12:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

== Joining ==

I, Darth Cookie Monster, is humbly asking to join this project[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 18:49, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
:You don't have to ask. Just add your name to the list of participants. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:41, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

== Held items ==

The items Pokémon sometimes hold in the wild. I'm not sure how to implement the information yet but we are currently missing it. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:54, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking about this - maybe add a section in the usebox with Held Item, and a percentage. [[User:Dlt4|Don]] 17:44, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

== Number redirecting ==

should the national dex numbers redirect to the pokemon's data page? I can do that if needed. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]][[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 15:09, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

== Help! ==

How do I join Project Pokédex?[[User:Medicham225|Medicham225]] 18:49, 24 May 2008 (UTC)medicham225
:Simply add your name to the list of participants. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:07, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you.[[User:Medicham225|Medicham225]] 23:26, 24 May 2008 (UTC)Medicham225

== Generation 4 Smogon links ==

The links for generation 4 'mon are still not working correctly. Zhen Lin implied that it would be possible to make the link as a function of the name of the article. [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zhen_Lin&diff=prev&oldid=270480#BulbaBot_request] --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 05:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

== About the sprites and trivia ==

Can we, you know, STOP FREAKING MENTIONING THEM THERE? They're all charted up, GO FIND THEM AND UPLOAD THEM instead of putting it in the trivia.

Also, next time anyone mentions something as obvious as "the Gen II backsprites and Gen III backsprites for Gen I and II Pokémon are similar" is going to be yelled at. You know why? BECAUSE THEY ALL ARE, just COLORIZED. Game Freak was lazy. Heck, they would've reused the Gen I ones if they weren't total crap. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:09, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

== Why (Pokémon) rather than (species)? ==

I mean, Ash's Butterfree is also a Pokémon. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 04:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

: Your point? --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|Fire]] 07:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

::Obviously that it's not correct and should be changed. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 03:36, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:::[[Species]] is something very different. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 03:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:::: Pokémon is the creature, Species is the Pokémon's Classification. Bulbasaur is a Pokémon and "Seed Pokémon" uis a type of species. --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|Fire]] 05:56, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

== Admission ==

Am I allowed to join? [[User:Mr.Lucario|Mr.Lucario]] 11:13, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:Everyone is. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 15:42, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Legendary Pokemon ==

I, BlazeFireKitty, spend a lot of time researching legendary Pokemon, and I'll add every single thing that I can get about them to their pages. The pages should really become very informative soon. I've noticed that a few are missing info under behavior and such, because the page is so focused on their game stats.

Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Archive 3

2008-08-04T06:39:38Z

Broloth: /* pronunciation */

==Previous discussions==
* [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Archive 2|Archive 2]]

== About external links and fan shrines... ==

I couldn't help but notice that within the Project Pokedex section, it is mentioned that Pokemon can receive not only wikipedia links but fan shrine links, too.

Now, before I jumped ahead of myself, I checked a few of the obviously more popular Pokemon, like Eevee or Pikachu. You can't go wrong with that. What I noticed is that the only fan stuffs listed is fanlistings, though. While that's something, it is what it is... a list. Granted, Poke-centric (that is, non human) shrines seem to be hard to come by in the 'States for some reason.

So, my question is, what would I have to do to get a fan shrine listed? Does there have to meet certain requirements? Is it necessary that it's a fanlisting? The site is in English, in case you're wondering. I know the ratio of Japanese artsy Poke-centric sites to US ones is extremely skewed in their favor, so I can see where that could be a concern, if a concern at all.
--[[User:Nidorino|Nidorino]] 16:56, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
:I would say in this matter, it's more quality that matters than notability. If you have a site that is good enough to be of interest to someone looking for some sort of information on the Pokémon - go ahead and add it. But if it's something that's low-quality and not useful, expect to see the link removed shortly after.
:Also, I would rule that foreign language sites can also be included - but with stricter inclusion standards, at the bottom of the external links list, and with its language included in parentheses so people don't click expecting an English site and get something in a different language. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 18:03, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

::Well, it's actually more interesting and for leisure than it is informational. I sorta made it both because I thought the Nidoran line was severely underappreciated and I got a little tired of the thousands of informational Pokemon sites but no fun multimedia ones. I suppose for what it's worth, it'll probably be really nice for any Pokemon fan since there's lots to see and do (for a Nido centric site, it's actually doing really well), I put a ''lot'' of work into it as well.

::The quality lies in the content, I go all out on what talents I have all for the sake of Nido Pokemon. There's also people who share the same idea, so a lot of contributions have come from people all over, it's probably ''one of'' the biggest Nido fan gatherings, which truthfully isn't a hard goal to aspire for considering the Pokemon in question. My main reasoning behind it, though, is that I just think that Nido fans shouldn't be left out of the picture, considering I know how hard it is to find anything interesting about them at all.

::So I guess what it comes down to is what one wants. It someone's trying to read hard facts, well, they could do that anywhere. But if someone's looking for something fun and different, that's the goal I want to accomplish.

::Would that still be okay?--[[User:Nidorino|Nidorino]] 18:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

== Biology ==

There's been a bit of controversy over the content in the biology section of {{p|Typhlosion}}'s article. It may be an idea to keep an eye over the stuff that goes in that section. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:13, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
:... how in the world did we miss that? D: --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 00:34, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

==Diamond and Pearl Pokéradar==
In relation to the Pokeradar in Daimond and Pearl. Should it be mentioned in the Rarity section like [[Nidoran♀ (Pokémon)]] or in the Location section like [[Venonat (Pokémon)]]. Just asking so that there can be some consistancy in the articles. [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 08:44, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
:Do we need to point out that the Pokéradar Pokémon are rare? If not, we have a free space to fit it in:
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{poison color}};"
! Game
! [[Rarity]]
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl]] || [[Pokéradar]] || [[Route 201]]
|}
:Otherwise, I prefer how Venonat looks. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 17:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:They aren't always rare. And I've been adding in an availability template to Pokémon pages:

{{Availability|
type=ice |
gen=3 |
rsrarity=Few |
rsarea=[[Shoal Cave]] |
erarity=Few |
earea=[[Shoal Cave]] |
dprarity=Rare |
dparea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|216}} and {{rtn|217}}, [[Acuity Lakefront]] ([[Poké Radar]]) |
}}

That's what {{p|Snorunt}} has. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 01:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

::I'm missing how that template affects the current issue. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 21:50, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. So what about those in the Trophy Garden but need the pokéradar to be found. Should this be mentioned in the location section as well as that they are found in the Trophy Garden? The question was raised when looking at the [[Meowth]] page.

:Yes, it should mention on both pages. And the page is on {{p|Meowth}}, [[Meowth]] is a disambiguation page, so you'd better use the {{template|p}} template. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 18:22, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
::Ok but what about the PokéRadar in the Trophy Garden?[[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 10:03, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::What do you mean? '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 00:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
::::All of the pokemon that change daily in the Trophy Garden eg Happiny, Porygon and Mime Jr. require Pokeradar to find. Should this be mentioned in the template's location section? [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 06:34, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::Do they? If so, well, do like Snorunt. Put "[[Trophy Garden]] ([[Poké Radar]])" in the dparea thing. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:50, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::The Trophy Garden Pokémon '''don't''' need Poké Radar. You just need to walk around a lot. - - - '''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 09:20, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

DONE THANKS GUYS [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 11:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

==Tiers==
Might it be a good idea to create a category for each tier of Pokémon, as of Diamond/Pearl? It would be a bit easier for people to find out what tier their Pokémon is by just scrolling down, as opposed to navigating to the [[list of tiers]] page.
:Well, I dunno, it's really more arbitrary than others. For example, I consider Gorebyss to be pretty good, but I've never used Skarmory. And let's not forget that the list of tiers is in need of cleanup; it seems pretty damn opinionated (and that's not because it says that Typhlosion is "not recommended for use outside of its tier"). After all, any Pokémon can be good if you can figure out how to make it that way. Heck, it's my opinion that the list of tiers is the same sort of "we'll tell you how to play Pokémon and not let you have fun" thing as that recommended movesets thing that was here a while back. Also, don't forget to sign comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 02:23, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
::Whoops, sorry about that. Fair point I guess, but it might be handy for competitive players in particular kinds of battle, Never-Used for example. [[User:Blink|Blink]] 15:20, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
:::True, but eh. We have many of their level-up movesets, and most of their learnable TMs and HMs listed, as well as their base stats. Itdoes take a bit of investigating, still, to see whether the move in question on their list is Physical or Special, though, but as for how to change this? Beats me...
:::I do think, however, that that would be a better thing to do. Let people make up their own strategies, we'd possibly get more variety in teams. After all, I know that I figured out that Typhlosion wasn't as good with variety on my own, since it can barely learn any Special moves that aren't Fire, but it took me a bit of searching. I'm gonna do some experimenting in my sandbox about how to indicate the Physical/Special/Status moves in my sandbox. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 01:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Are tiers just a fandom thing, or was there ever an official list published, even for RSE/FRLG etc?[[User:Blink|Blink]] 14:45, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
← 
Far as I know they're just a fandom thing. I've never seen an official Nintendo list that says, outright "CATERPIE SUCKS NEVER EVER EVER USE IT." even if '''''everyone''''' knows this to be true. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 19:25, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

So any pokemon can be useful eh? Weedle vs. T-Tar lol.
:Nintendo hasn't said not, therefore, yes, Weedle vs Tyranitar is fine. Frickin' go for it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 03:33, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

First off I want to say that not only does the Tier List need to be made more easily accessible, but a list of Items banned from competitive play would be nice too. I know Quick Claw and Focus Band is out of the question, but Im sure there are more that I don't know about.
Now onto the business at hand.Nintendo actually has hinted at the fact that their are "tiers" in the game. If we look at the Battle Tower in D/P (for example) most of the ubers aren't allowed. The reason Wobbuffett was put on the list was because if two Wobbuffett started off against each other in metagame, you'd have a 65 - 70 turn snoozefest on your hands. The reason Latios and Latias aren't on the in-game uber list, is because not everybody has Soul Dew. The game was designed with balance in mind. Pokemon like Weedle and Caterpie do have a tier called NFE (Not Fully Evolved) now granted some Pokemon are good if NFE (i.e. Trapinch and Pikachu) some Pokemon were designed to not compete with others. Sure you can fight Weedle versus Tyranitar, and sure no one is going to tell you "no you can't do that", but there will be people telling you that Weedle vs. Tyranitar is not too hot of an idea. Flareon is a perfect example of Nintendo designing a Pokemon to not compete with others, you don't think Nintendo didn't realize "we gave a very physical attack oriented Pokemon very few choices when it came to physical attacks" do you? Regigigas is another example, they made sure it didn't get Protect or Rest. And no, Nintendo will never release a list saying "these Pokemon are good, these Pokemon are ok, these Pokemon suck" no company would ever do that cause it would completely take away from the game; Blizzard for instance will never say "rogues are the best kekekek" because then everyone would be rolling rogue. Just like Nintendo will never say "teams without Garchomp in it are destined to fail"; and we must remember that the Tiers Lists are for competitive play, it is indeed very possible to defeat the Elite Four and the Champion using UU and NU Pokemon, but in WiFi games, no a Lopunny will not be able to legitimately beat a Physical Dragonite 1v1. Imagine how annoying it would be to fight an Elite Four member with all OU Pokemon using Hax Items that didn't follow standard battle rules. First battle Bug, Choice Scarf Parasect to Spore EVERYONE of your Pokemon, Choice Band Heracross rocking people who can't counter it, Agility sweeping Life Orb Scizor bending over everything that wasn't resistant to Steel Bug and Fighting, Shuckle, sitting there with its 614 max defenses with only 3 weaknesses, 2 not being too common, Yanmega scouting us for attacks and passing on its speed to someone really slow, and then Pinsir with a bone to pick with whatever was left. Then we'd have Pokemon like a max Cursed out Snorlax getting Quick Claw procs, or Garchomps with Bright Powder milking the fruits of Tyranitar's labor. That's all I'll say for now, and props to whoever is able to read all this. [[User:Broloth|Broloth]] 06:33, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

== Learnsets ==

Okay, I know we'll all agree that other sites that indicate the type and category of a move on the Pokémon's page are helpful for quick lookers. Sure, we shouldn't add power, accuracy, PP, and all that, but at the very least the type and category of the move.

[[User:TTEchidna/Sandbox/Bulbasaur|So this is what I've come up with for Bulbasaur]]. It still indicates STAB, if a person's too lazy to scroll up to see what types the Pokémon is, and for Gen IV, it indicates Physical/Special in addition to type so that a person can pick out moves depending on the stats of the Pokémon as well as its types.

Thoughts? I certainly think that this could make the Pokémon pages much better than they are. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:I think you could be on to something here. It even looks a bit better, aesthetically speaking, than the current table. [[User:Blink|Blink]] 19:24, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

:: Looks very nice. I feel sorry for you though, having to do that 492 more times. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 06:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah... unless I get some help... '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 06:32, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
::::That's very good. I like the layout better than the current one, since it seems easier to read and clearly shows whether a move is physical, special or status. -[[User:DarkMazer|DarkMazer]] 03:37, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Now the best question. Wanna help me add them to all the rest?

Also: I have a new, possibly more improved proposal. [[User:TTEchidna/Sandbox/Bulbasaur/Future|Check it out]]. This way, when we get Gen V, VI, VII, and so on... we won't have to move stuff around besides the current moveset. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 10:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
: I like your design. *nod* I would say leave it as separate tables on the same pages for Gen V but when we get to Gen VI change it to separate pages altogether. Though that would be a lot of work of converting all the pages. Perhaps we should start changing the pages once we hear Gen VI will be released? (If it does :P)'''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 19:58, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
::Wouldn't really be much work, per se, if we already have all of the movesets organized into those tables-within-tables like Bulbasaur and some others have. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:45, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
:::So when can we get started on changing them? - - - '''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 10:16, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

== Body shape ==

In GenIV, rather than by colour, Pokémon are able to be searched by a general body shape... Unfortunately, these categories are all symbols rather than names. This would make it hard to be included here, but I thought I'd put forth the idea anyway: Sort Pokémon by body shape, like we do with colour. The first thing, though, is that we'd have to come up with an agreeable standard on what each category should be named (since it doesn't do that for us). Just putting forth the idea for discussion, and whether or not the community thinks it would be useful. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 04:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
:We definately want to have some coverage on it but, as you say, it's going to be diffcult to implement. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:10, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::So, anyone got any ideas for this? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
:::How about we get the sprites from the game for it? As for the category.. um.. "Body Shape 1 Pokémon", etc? That's a suggestion I have. {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{Ani|380}} 03:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
::::But who'll say which is which? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

== Alternate Coloration ==

I've been having plans for starting a subsection to the biology section that describes a Pokémon's alternate coloring. But the thing is, TinatheKirlia told me that such a subsection would be unnecessary because the sprite templates on each article. But I (was with TTEchidna, apparently) believe that describing what a Pokémon's shiny version looks like would be better.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 20:10, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
:It seems no more redundant than describing the normal form in the first place... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 22:47, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::Eh, I really think that there are more important things than telling what color a Pokémon is when shiny, but most especially since the sprites do so, and easily demonstrate the differences among the generations (Bulbasaur itself is tan in Gen II, but green with a dark green bulb in III and IV). '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Sometimes the shiny colors (I think this is why) in GenII is because of the limitations of the GBC. Some simple colors, such as [[Red Gyarados]], stay but others such as Bulbasaur and Charizard get a little discolored, because of the limitations.
:::I dunno, but that's my guess. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 23:33, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

::::Sorry about that misunderstanding, TTE. I thought you were agreeing with me.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 23:23, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

== pronunciation ==

Just relizing that I had "THE OFFICIAL Pokémon Handbook" infront of me. I always hated not knowing how to say the names correctly and in this book it says how is it possible to add a section for the first genneration Pokémon. (That's the only handbook I currently have from my school library).--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 01:32, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I have all of the series of those offical handbooks.................(but what does that have to do with Project Pokédex?????) --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 01:35, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

well they have the pronunciation on every Pokémon shouldn't we put how to say the name of the Pokémon on their page?--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 01:39, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Most people know how to say it......but it's an idea........--[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 02:00, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I say this because I'm always fighting with my bro (who is 24) about how to say kyogre
He says it as if it was katakana and I disagree.--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 02:03, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

:It would be a useful addition to the infoboxes. The main question is if there is an official source for beyond the first generation. (Since some people insist that the dub pronounces things wrong for some reason.) I know we got Bonsly confirmed from PUSA but not of any source for the rest. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

well I have the handbooks of the second generation, and the third generation as well. --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 00:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:I usually pronounce Kyogre as Kai-oh-great (minus the t at the end). But the anime is Kai-oh-ge... '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]Hi''' 13:52, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I usually pronounce it Kai-oh-ger.
How do i participate in Project Pokédex.
Where exactly is the evolution box on the page.

Woot Glih-score Gly-score debates =D and i don't trust the anime 100% of the time, i still think it's swee - kune, not soo-wee-soon let's not for get that english dubs aren't always right (i.e. Krillin vs. Kuririn, or Tien vs. Tenshinhan.)

== R/S sprites ==

I know you guys aren't done uploading them, but are we gonna do the R/S sprites? Even though we have the Emerald ones... the R/S ones are half distracting. I dunno, just wondering.. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 19:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:All sprites means ''all'' of 'em. The only problem I see us running into is the shiny Emerald sprites. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 19:19, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

== Shadow ==

So um... where should we put info on the Shadow Pokémon? Probably under Game info, or Game locations.. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:That'd be a good idea, as a subsection of that. Like...

:Probaly under Game Info..... [[Image:Ani234MS.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|MERRY]] [[Image:Ani385MS.gif]] [[User talk:Theryguy512|CHRISTMAS]][[Image:Ani225MS.gif]] 23:55, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

===Shadow (name)===
In (Colo/XD) a [[Shadow Pokémon|Shadow]] (name) can be found in (location), trained by (trainer). Its moves are (moves) and, when purified, it learns (moves).

'''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 22:03, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:We already have this information. The location table notes which Pokémon are shadow and the moves are noted under the moveset heading. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:45, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

== Size and Weight ==

Hello, I'd like to discuss about the weight and size of Pokémon we display in the pokédex pages, I think they should be there, but they are not. (if they are and I don't see it, please notice me :-])
what do you think?
[[User:MewUser|MewUser]] 11:32, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
:That information is in the infobox of every article... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 12:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

== Joining ==

I, Darth Cookie Monster, is humbly asking to join this project[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 18:49, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
:You don't have to ask. Just add your name to the list of participants. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:41, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

== Held items ==

The items Pokémon sometimes hold in the wild. I'm not sure how to implement the information yet but we are currently missing it. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:54, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking about this - maybe add a section in the usebox with Held Item, and a percentage. [[User:Dlt4|Don]] 17:44, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

== Number redirecting ==

should the national dex numbers redirect to the pokemon's data page? I can do that if needed. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]][[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 15:09, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

== Help! ==

How do I join Project Pokédex?[[User:Medicham225|Medicham225]] 18:49, 24 May 2008 (UTC)medicham225
:Simply add your name to the list of participants. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:07, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you.[[User:Medicham225|Medicham225]] 23:26, 24 May 2008 (UTC)Medicham225

== Generation 4 Smogon links ==

The links for generation 4 'mon are still not working correctly. Zhen Lin implied that it would be possible to make the link as a function of the name of the article. [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zhen_Lin&diff=prev&oldid=270480#BulbaBot_request] --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 05:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

== About the sprites and trivia ==

Can we, you know, STOP FREAKING MENTIONING THEM THERE? They're all charted up, GO FIND THEM AND UPLOAD THEM instead of putting it in the trivia.

Also, next time anyone mentions something as obvious as "the Gen II backsprites and Gen III backsprites for Gen I and II Pokémon are similar" is going to be yelled at. You know why? BECAUSE THEY ALL ARE, just COLORIZED. Game Freak was lazy. Heck, they would've reused the Gen I ones if they weren't total crap. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:09, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

== Why (Pokémon) rather than (species)? ==

I mean, Ash's Butterfree is also a Pokémon. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 04:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

: Your point? --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|Fire]] 07:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

::Obviously that it's not correct and should be changed. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 03:36, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:::[[Species]] is something very different. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 03:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:::: Pokémon is the creature, Species is the Pokémon's Classification. Bulbasaur is a Pokémon and "Seed Pokémon" uis a type of species. --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|Fire]] 05:56, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

== Admission ==

Am I allowed to join? [[User:Mr.Lucario|Mr.Lucario]] 11:13, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:Everyone is. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 15:42, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Legendary Pokemon ==

I, BlazeFireKitty, spend a lot of time researching legendary Pokemon, and I'll add every single thing that I can get about them to their pages. The pages should really become very informative soon. I've noticed that a few are missing info under behavior and such, because the page is so focused on their game stats.

Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Archive 3

2008-08-04T06:36:28Z

Broloth: /* pronunciation */

==Previous discussions==
* [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Archive 2|Archive 2]]

== About external links and fan shrines... ==

I couldn't help but notice that within the Project Pokedex section, it is mentioned that Pokemon can receive not only wikipedia links but fan shrine links, too.

Now, before I jumped ahead of myself, I checked a few of the obviously more popular Pokemon, like Eevee or Pikachu. You can't go wrong with that. What I noticed is that the only fan stuffs listed is fanlistings, though. While that's something, it is what it is... a list. Granted, Poke-centric (that is, non human) shrines seem to be hard to come by in the 'States for some reason.

So, my question is, what would I have to do to get a fan shrine listed? Does there have to meet certain requirements? Is it necessary that it's a fanlisting? The site is in English, in case you're wondering. I know the ratio of Japanese artsy Poke-centric sites to US ones is extremely skewed in their favor, so I can see where that could be a concern, if a concern at all.
--[[User:Nidorino|Nidorino]] 16:56, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
:I would say in this matter, it's more quality that matters than notability. If you have a site that is good enough to be of interest to someone looking for some sort of information on the Pokémon - go ahead and add it. But if it's something that's low-quality and not useful, expect to see the link removed shortly after.
:Also, I would rule that foreign language sites can also be included - but with stricter inclusion standards, at the bottom of the external links list, and with its language included in parentheses so people don't click expecting an English site and get something in a different language. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 18:03, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

::Well, it's actually more interesting and for leisure than it is informational. I sorta made it both because I thought the Nidoran line was severely underappreciated and I got a little tired of the thousands of informational Pokemon sites but no fun multimedia ones. I suppose for what it's worth, it'll probably be really nice for any Pokemon fan since there's lots to see and do (for a Nido centric site, it's actually doing really well), I put a ''lot'' of work into it as well.

::The quality lies in the content, I go all out on what talents I have all for the sake of Nido Pokemon. There's also people who share the same idea, so a lot of contributions have come from people all over, it's probably ''one of'' the biggest Nido fan gatherings, which truthfully isn't a hard goal to aspire for considering the Pokemon in question. My main reasoning behind it, though, is that I just think that Nido fans shouldn't be left out of the picture, considering I know how hard it is to find anything interesting about them at all.

::So I guess what it comes down to is what one wants. It someone's trying to read hard facts, well, they could do that anywhere. But if someone's looking for something fun and different, that's the goal I want to accomplish.

::Would that still be okay?--[[User:Nidorino|Nidorino]] 18:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

== Biology ==

There's been a bit of controversy over the content in the biology section of {{p|Typhlosion}}'s article. It may be an idea to keep an eye over the stuff that goes in that section. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:13, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
:... how in the world did we miss that? D: --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 00:34, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

==Diamond and Pearl Pokéradar==
In relation to the Pokeradar in Daimond and Pearl. Should it be mentioned in the Rarity section like [[Nidoran♀ (Pokémon)]] or in the Location section like [[Venonat (Pokémon)]]. Just asking so that there can be some consistancy in the articles. [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 08:44, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
:Do we need to point out that the Pokéradar Pokémon are rare? If not, we have a free space to fit it in:
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{poison color}};"
! Game
! [[Rarity]]
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl]] || [[Pokéradar]] || [[Route 201]]
|}
:Otherwise, I prefer how Venonat looks. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 17:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:They aren't always rare. And I've been adding in an availability template to Pokémon pages:

{{Availability|
type=ice |
gen=3 |
rsrarity=Few |
rsarea=[[Shoal Cave]] |
erarity=Few |
earea=[[Shoal Cave]] |
dprarity=Rare |
dparea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|216}} and {{rtn|217}}, [[Acuity Lakefront]] ([[Poké Radar]]) |
}}

That's what {{p|Snorunt}} has. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 01:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

::I'm missing how that template affects the current issue. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 21:50, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. So what about those in the Trophy Garden but need the pokéradar to be found. Should this be mentioned in the location section as well as that they are found in the Trophy Garden? The question was raised when looking at the [[Meowth]] page.

:Yes, it should mention on both pages. And the page is on {{p|Meowth}}, [[Meowth]] is a disambiguation page, so you'd better use the {{template|p}} template. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 18:22, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
::Ok but what about the PokéRadar in the Trophy Garden?[[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 10:03, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::What do you mean? '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 00:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
::::All of the pokemon that change daily in the Trophy Garden eg Happiny, Porygon and Mime Jr. require Pokeradar to find. Should this be mentioned in the template's location section? [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 06:34, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::Do they? If so, well, do like Snorunt. Put "[[Trophy Garden]] ([[Poké Radar]])" in the dparea thing. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:50, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::The Trophy Garden Pokémon '''don't''' need Poké Radar. You just need to walk around a lot. - - - '''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 09:20, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

DONE THANKS GUYS [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 11:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

==Tiers==
Might it be a good idea to create a category for each tier of Pokémon, as of Diamond/Pearl? It would be a bit easier for people to find out what tier their Pokémon is by just scrolling down, as opposed to navigating to the [[list of tiers]] page.
:Well, I dunno, it's really more arbitrary than others. For example, I consider Gorebyss to be pretty good, but I've never used Skarmory. And let's not forget that the list of tiers is in need of cleanup; it seems pretty damn opinionated (and that's not because it says that Typhlosion is "not recommended for use outside of its tier"). After all, any Pokémon can be good if you can figure out how to make it that way. Heck, it's my opinion that the list of tiers is the same sort of "we'll tell you how to play Pokémon and not let you have fun" thing as that recommended movesets thing that was here a while back. Also, don't forget to sign comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 02:23, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
::Whoops, sorry about that. Fair point I guess, but it might be handy for competitive players in particular kinds of battle, Never-Used for example. [[User:Blink|Blink]] 15:20, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
:::True, but eh. We have many of their level-up movesets, and most of their learnable TMs and HMs listed, as well as their base stats. Itdoes take a bit of investigating, still, to see whether the move in question on their list is Physical or Special, though, but as for how to change this? Beats me...
:::I do think, however, that that would be a better thing to do. Let people make up their own strategies, we'd possibly get more variety in teams. After all, I know that I figured out that Typhlosion wasn't as good with variety on my own, since it can barely learn any Special moves that aren't Fire, but it took me a bit of searching. I'm gonna do some experimenting in my sandbox about how to indicate the Physical/Special/Status moves in my sandbox. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 01:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Are tiers just a fandom thing, or was there ever an official list published, even for RSE/FRLG etc?[[User:Blink|Blink]] 14:45, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
← 
Far as I know they're just a fandom thing. I've never seen an official Nintendo list that says, outright "CATERPIE SUCKS NEVER EVER EVER USE IT." even if '''''everyone''''' knows this to be true. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 19:25, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

So any pokemon can be useful eh? Weedle vs. T-Tar lol.
:Nintendo hasn't said not, therefore, yes, Weedle vs Tyranitar is fine. Frickin' go for it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 03:33, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

First off I want to say that not only does the Tier List need to be made more easily accessible, but a list of Items banned from competitive play would be nice too. I know Quick Claw and Focus Band is out of the question, but Im sure there are more that I don't know about.
Now onto the business at hand.Nintendo actually has hinted at the fact that their are "tiers" in the game. If we look at the Battle Tower in D/P (for example) most of the ubers aren't allowed. The reason Wobbuffett was put on the list was because if two Wobbuffett started off against each other in metagame, you'd have a 65 - 70 turn snoozefest on your hands. The reason Latios and Latias aren't on the in-game uber list, is because not everybody has Soul Dew. The game was designed with balance in mind. Pokemon like Weedle and Caterpie do have a tier called NFE (Not Fully Evolved) now granted some Pokemon are good if NFE (i.e. Trapinch and Pikachu) some Pokemon were designed to not compete with others. Sure you can fight Weedle versus Tyranitar, and sure no one is going to tell you "no you can't do that", but there will be people telling you that Weedle vs. Tyranitar is not too hot of an idea. Flareon is a perfect example of Nintendo designing a Pokemon to not compete with others, you don't think Nintendo didn't realize "we gave a very physical attack oriented Pokemon very few choices when it came to physical attacks" do you? Regigigas is another example, they made sure it didn't get Protect or Rest. And no, Nintendo will never release a list saying "these Pokemon are good, these Pokemon are ok, these Pokemon suck" no company would ever do that cause it would completely take away from the game; Blizzard for instance will never say "rogues are the best kekekek" because then everyone would be rolling rogue. Just like Nintendo will never say "teams without Garchomp in it are destined to fail"; and we must remember that the Tiers Lists are for competitive play, it is indeed very possible to defeat the Elite Four and the Champion using UU and NU Pokemon, but in WiFi games, no a Lopunny will not be able to legitimately beat a Physical Dragonite 1v1. Imagine how annoying it would be to fight an Elite Four member with all OU Pokemon using Hax Items that didn't follow standard battle rules. First battle Bug, Choice Scarf Parasect to Spore EVERYONE of your Pokemon, Choice Band Heracross rocking people who can't counter it, Agility sweeping Life Orb Scizor bending over everything that wasn't resistant to Steel Bug and Fighting, Shuckle, sitting there with its 614 max defenses with only 3 weaknesses, 2 not being too common, Yanmega scouting us for attacks and passing on its speed to someone really slow, and then Pinsir with a bone to pick with whatever was left. Then we'd have Pokemon like a max Cursed out Snorlax getting Quick Claw procs, or Garchomps with Bright Powder milking the fruits of Tyranitar's labor. That's all I'll say for now, and props to whoever is able to read all this. [[User:Broloth|Broloth]] 06:33, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

== Learnsets ==

Okay, I know we'll all agree that other sites that indicate the type and category of a move on the Pokémon's page are helpful for quick lookers. Sure, we shouldn't add power, accuracy, PP, and all that, but at the very least the type and category of the move.

[[User:TTEchidna/Sandbox/Bulbasaur|So this is what I've come up with for Bulbasaur]]. It still indicates STAB, if a person's too lazy to scroll up to see what types the Pokémon is, and for Gen IV, it indicates Physical/Special in addition to type so that a person can pick out moves depending on the stats of the Pokémon as well as its types.

Thoughts? I certainly think that this could make the Pokémon pages much better than they are. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:I think you could be on to something here. It even looks a bit better, aesthetically speaking, than the current table. [[User:Blink|Blink]] 19:24, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

:: Looks very nice. I feel sorry for you though, having to do that 492 more times. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 06:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah... unless I get some help... '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 06:32, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
::::That's very good. I like the layout better than the current one, since it seems easier to read and clearly shows whether a move is physical, special or status. -[[User:DarkMazer|DarkMazer]] 03:37, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Now the best question. Wanna help me add them to all the rest?

Also: I have a new, possibly more improved proposal. [[User:TTEchidna/Sandbox/Bulbasaur/Future|Check it out]]. This way, when we get Gen V, VI, VII, and so on... we won't have to move stuff around besides the current moveset. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 10:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
: I like your design. *nod* I would say leave it as separate tables on the same pages for Gen V but when we get to Gen VI change it to separate pages altogether. Though that would be a lot of work of converting all the pages. Perhaps we should start changing the pages once we hear Gen VI will be released? (If it does :P)'''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 19:58, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
::Wouldn't really be much work, per se, if we already have all of the movesets organized into those tables-within-tables like Bulbasaur and some others have. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:45, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
:::So when can we get started on changing them? - - - '''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 10:16, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

== Body shape ==

In GenIV, rather than by colour, Pokémon are able to be searched by a general body shape... Unfortunately, these categories are all symbols rather than names. This would make it hard to be included here, but I thought I'd put forth the idea anyway: Sort Pokémon by body shape, like we do with colour. The first thing, though, is that we'd have to come up with an agreeable standard on what each category should be named (since it doesn't do that for us). Just putting forth the idea for discussion, and whether or not the community thinks it would be useful. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 04:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
:We definately want to have some coverage on it but, as you say, it's going to be diffcult to implement. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:10, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::So, anyone got any ideas for this? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
:::How about we get the sprites from the game for it? As for the category.. um.. "Body Shape 1 Pokémon", etc? That's a suggestion I have. {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{Ani|380}} 03:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
::::But who'll say which is which? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

== Alternate Coloration ==

I've been having plans for starting a subsection to the biology section that describes a Pokémon's alternate coloring. But the thing is, TinatheKirlia told me that such a subsection would be unnecessary because the sprite templates on each article. But I (was with TTEchidna, apparently) believe that describing what a Pokémon's shiny version looks like would be better.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 20:10, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
:It seems no more redundant than describing the normal form in the first place... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 22:47, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::Eh, I really think that there are more important things than telling what color a Pokémon is when shiny, but most especially since the sprites do so, and easily demonstrate the differences among the generations (Bulbasaur itself is tan in Gen II, but green with a dark green bulb in III and IV). '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Sometimes the shiny colors (I think this is why) in GenII is because of the limitations of the GBC. Some simple colors, such as [[Red Gyarados]], stay but others such as Bulbasaur and Charizard get a little discolored, because of the limitations.
:::I dunno, but that's my guess. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 23:33, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

::::Sorry about that misunderstanding, TTE. I thought you were agreeing with me.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 23:23, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

== pronunciation ==

Just relizing that I had "THE OFFICIAL Pokémon Handbook" infront of me. I always hated not knowing how to say the names correctly and in this book it says how is it possible to add a section for the first genneration Pokémon. (That's the only handbook I currently have from my school library).--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 01:32, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I have all of the series of those offical handbooks.................(but what does that have to do with Project Pokédex?????) --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 01:35, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

well they have the pronunciation on every Pokémon shouldn't we put how to say the name of the Pokémon on their page?--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 01:39, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Most people know how to say it......but it's an idea........--[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 02:00, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I say this because I'm always fighting with my bro (who is 24) about how to say kyogre
He says it as if it was katakana and I disagree.--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 02:03, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

:It would be a useful addition to the infoboxes. The main question is if there is an official source for beyond the first generation. (Since some people insist that the dub pronounces things wrong for some reason.) I know we got Bonsly confirmed from PUSA but not of any source for the rest. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

well I have the handbooks of the second generation, and the third generation as well. --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 00:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:I usually pronounce Kyogre as Kai-oh-great (minus the t at the end). But the anime is Kai-oh-ge... '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]Hi''' 13:52, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I usually pronounce it Kai-oh-ger.
How do i participate in Project Pokédex.
Where exactly is the evolution box on the page.

Woot Glih-score Gly-score debates =D [[User:Broloth|Broloth]] 06:36, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

== R/S sprites ==

I know you guys aren't done uploading them, but are we gonna do the R/S sprites? Even though we have the Emerald ones... the R/S ones are half distracting. I dunno, just wondering.. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 19:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:All sprites means ''all'' of 'em. The only problem I see us running into is the shiny Emerald sprites. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 19:19, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

== Shadow ==

So um... where should we put info on the Shadow Pokémon? Probably under Game info, or Game locations.. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:That'd be a good idea, as a subsection of that. Like...

:Probaly under Game Info..... [[Image:Ani234MS.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|MERRY]] [[Image:Ani385MS.gif]] [[User talk:Theryguy512|CHRISTMAS]][[Image:Ani225MS.gif]] 23:55, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

===Shadow (name)===
In (Colo/XD) a [[Shadow Pokémon|Shadow]] (name) can be found in (location), trained by (trainer). Its moves are (moves) and, when purified, it learns (moves).

'''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 22:03, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:We already have this information. The location table notes which Pokémon are shadow and the moves are noted under the moveset heading. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:45, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

== Size and Weight ==

Hello, I'd like to discuss about the weight and size of Pokémon we display in the pokédex pages, I think they should be there, but they are not. (if they are and I don't see it, please notice me :-])
what do you think?
[[User:MewUser|MewUser]] 11:32, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
:That information is in the infobox of every article... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 12:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

== Joining ==

I, Darth Cookie Monster, is humbly asking to join this project[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 18:49, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
:You don't have to ask. Just add your name to the list of participants. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:41, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

== Held items ==

The items Pokémon sometimes hold in the wild. I'm not sure how to implement the information yet but we are currently missing it. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:54, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking about this - maybe add a section in the usebox with Held Item, and a percentage. [[User:Dlt4|Don]] 17:44, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

== Number redirecting ==

should the national dex numbers redirect to the pokemon's data page? I can do that if needed. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]][[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 15:09, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

== Help! ==

How do I join Project Pokédex?[[User:Medicham225|Medicham225]] 18:49, 24 May 2008 (UTC)medicham225
:Simply add your name to the list of participants. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:07, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you.[[User:Medicham225|Medicham225]] 23:26, 24 May 2008 (UTC)Medicham225

== Generation 4 Smogon links ==

The links for generation 4 'mon are still not working correctly. Zhen Lin implied that it would be possible to make the link as a function of the name of the article. [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zhen_Lin&diff=prev&oldid=270480#BulbaBot_request] --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 05:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

== About the sprites and trivia ==

Can we, you know, STOP FREAKING MENTIONING THEM THERE? They're all charted up, GO FIND THEM AND UPLOAD THEM instead of putting it in the trivia.

Also, next time anyone mentions something as obvious as "the Gen II backsprites and Gen III backsprites for Gen I and II Pokémon are similar" is going to be yelled at. You know why? BECAUSE THEY ALL ARE, just COLORIZED. Game Freak was lazy. Heck, they would've reused the Gen I ones if they weren't total crap. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:09, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

== Why (Pokémon) rather than (species)? ==

I mean, Ash's Butterfree is also a Pokémon. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 04:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

: Your point? --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|Fire]] 07:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

::Obviously that it's not correct and should be changed. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 03:36, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:::[[Species]] is something very different. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 03:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:::: Pokémon is the creature, Species is the Pokémon's Classification. Bulbasaur is a Pokémon and "Seed Pokémon" uis a type of species. --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|Fire]] 05:56, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

== Admission ==

Am I allowed to join? [[User:Mr.Lucario|Mr.Lucario]] 11:13, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:Everyone is. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 15:42, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Legendary Pokemon ==

I, BlazeFireKitty, spend a lot of time researching legendary Pokemon, and I'll add every single thing that I can get about them to their pages. The pages should really become very informative soon. I've noticed that a few are missing info under behavior and such, because the page is so focused on their game stats.

Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Archive 3

2008-08-04T06:33:33Z

Broloth: /* Tiers */

==Previous discussions==
* [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Archive 2|Archive 2]]

== About external links and fan shrines... ==

I couldn't help but notice that within the Project Pokedex section, it is mentioned that Pokemon can receive not only wikipedia links but fan shrine links, too.

Now, before I jumped ahead of myself, I checked a few of the obviously more popular Pokemon, like Eevee or Pikachu. You can't go wrong with that. What I noticed is that the only fan stuffs listed is fanlistings, though. While that's something, it is what it is... a list. Granted, Poke-centric (that is, non human) shrines seem to be hard to come by in the 'States for some reason.

So, my question is, what would I have to do to get a fan shrine listed? Does there have to meet certain requirements? Is it necessary that it's a fanlisting? The site is in English, in case you're wondering. I know the ratio of Japanese artsy Poke-centric sites to US ones is extremely skewed in their favor, so I can see where that could be a concern, if a concern at all.
--[[User:Nidorino|Nidorino]] 16:56, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
:I would say in this matter, it's more quality that matters than notability. If you have a site that is good enough to be of interest to someone looking for some sort of information on the Pokémon - go ahead and add it. But if it's something that's low-quality and not useful, expect to see the link removed shortly after.
:Also, I would rule that foreign language sites can also be included - but with stricter inclusion standards, at the bottom of the external links list, and with its language included in parentheses so people don't click expecting an English site and get something in a different language. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 18:03, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

::Well, it's actually more interesting and for leisure than it is informational. I sorta made it both because I thought the Nidoran line was severely underappreciated and I got a little tired of the thousands of informational Pokemon sites but no fun multimedia ones. I suppose for what it's worth, it'll probably be really nice for any Pokemon fan since there's lots to see and do (for a Nido centric site, it's actually doing really well), I put a ''lot'' of work into it as well.

::The quality lies in the content, I go all out on what talents I have all for the sake of Nido Pokemon. There's also people who share the same idea, so a lot of contributions have come from people all over, it's probably ''one of'' the biggest Nido fan gatherings, which truthfully isn't a hard goal to aspire for considering the Pokemon in question. My main reasoning behind it, though, is that I just think that Nido fans shouldn't be left out of the picture, considering I know how hard it is to find anything interesting about them at all.

::So I guess what it comes down to is what one wants. It someone's trying to read hard facts, well, they could do that anywhere. But if someone's looking for something fun and different, that's the goal I want to accomplish.

::Would that still be okay?--[[User:Nidorino|Nidorino]] 18:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

== Biology ==

There's been a bit of controversy over the content in the biology section of {{p|Typhlosion}}'s article. It may be an idea to keep an eye over the stuff that goes in that section. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:13, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
:... how in the world did we miss that? D: --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 00:34, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

==Diamond and Pearl Pokéradar==
In relation to the Pokeradar in Daimond and Pearl. Should it be mentioned in the Rarity section like [[Nidoran♀ (Pokémon)]] or in the Location section like [[Venonat (Pokémon)]]. Just asking so that there can be some consistancy in the articles. [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 08:44, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
:Do we need to point out that the Pokéradar Pokémon are rare? If not, we have a free space to fit it in:
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{poison color}};"
! Game
! [[Rarity]]
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl]] || [[Pokéradar]] || [[Route 201]]
|}
:Otherwise, I prefer how Venonat looks. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 17:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:They aren't always rare. And I've been adding in an availability template to Pokémon pages:

{{Availability|
type=ice |
gen=3 |
rsrarity=Few |
rsarea=[[Shoal Cave]] |
erarity=Few |
earea=[[Shoal Cave]] |
dprarity=Rare |
dparea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|216}} and {{rtn|217}}, [[Acuity Lakefront]] ([[Poké Radar]]) |
}}

That's what {{p|Snorunt}} has. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 01:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

::I'm missing how that template affects the current issue. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 21:50, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. So what about those in the Trophy Garden but need the pokéradar to be found. Should this be mentioned in the location section as well as that they are found in the Trophy Garden? The question was raised when looking at the [[Meowth]] page.

:Yes, it should mention on both pages. And the page is on {{p|Meowth}}, [[Meowth]] is a disambiguation page, so you'd better use the {{template|p}} template. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 18:22, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
::Ok but what about the PokéRadar in the Trophy Garden?[[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 10:03, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::What do you mean? '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 00:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
::::All of the pokemon that change daily in the Trophy Garden eg Happiny, Porygon and Mime Jr. require Pokeradar to find. Should this be mentioned in the template's location section? [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 06:34, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::Do they? If so, well, do like Snorunt. Put "[[Trophy Garden]] ([[Poké Radar]])" in the dparea thing. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:50, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::The Trophy Garden Pokémon '''don't''' need Poké Radar. You just need to walk around a lot. - - - '''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 09:20, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

DONE THANKS GUYS [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 11:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

==Tiers==
Might it be a good idea to create a category for each tier of Pokémon, as of Diamond/Pearl? It would be a bit easier for people to find out what tier their Pokémon is by just scrolling down, as opposed to navigating to the [[list of tiers]] page.
:Well, I dunno, it's really more arbitrary than others. For example, I consider Gorebyss to be pretty good, but I've never used Skarmory. And let's not forget that the list of tiers is in need of cleanup; it seems pretty damn opinionated (and that's not because it says that Typhlosion is "not recommended for use outside of its tier"). After all, any Pokémon can be good if you can figure out how to make it that way. Heck, it's my opinion that the list of tiers is the same sort of "we'll tell you how to play Pokémon and not let you have fun" thing as that recommended movesets thing that was here a while back. Also, don't forget to sign comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 02:23, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
::Whoops, sorry about that. Fair point I guess, but it might be handy for competitive players in particular kinds of battle, Never-Used for example. [[User:Blink|Blink]] 15:20, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
:::True, but eh. We have many of their level-up movesets, and most of their learnable TMs and HMs listed, as well as their base stats. Itdoes take a bit of investigating, still, to see whether the move in question on their list is Physical or Special, though, but as for how to change this? Beats me...
:::I do think, however, that that would be a better thing to do. Let people make up their own strategies, we'd possibly get more variety in teams. After all, I know that I figured out that Typhlosion wasn't as good with variety on my own, since it can barely learn any Special moves that aren't Fire, but it took me a bit of searching. I'm gonna do some experimenting in my sandbox about how to indicate the Physical/Special/Status moves in my sandbox. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 01:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Are tiers just a fandom thing, or was there ever an official list published, even for RSE/FRLG etc?[[User:Blink|Blink]] 14:45, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
← 
Far as I know they're just a fandom thing. I've never seen an official Nintendo list that says, outright "CATERPIE SUCKS NEVER EVER EVER USE IT." even if '''''everyone''''' knows this to be true. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 19:25, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

So any pokemon can be useful eh? Weedle vs. T-Tar lol.
:Nintendo hasn't said not, therefore, yes, Weedle vs Tyranitar is fine. Frickin' go for it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 03:33, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

First off I want to say that not only does the Tier List need to be made more easily accessible, but a list of Items banned from competitive play would be nice too. I know Quick Claw and Focus Band is out of the question, but Im sure there are more that I don't know about.
Now onto the business at hand.Nintendo actually has hinted at the fact that their are "tiers" in the game. If we look at the Battle Tower in D/P (for example) most of the ubers aren't allowed. The reason Wobbuffett was put on the list was because if two Wobbuffett started off against each other in metagame, you'd have a 65 - 70 turn snoozefest on your hands. The reason Latios and Latias aren't on the in-game uber list, is because not everybody has Soul Dew. The game was designed with balance in mind. Pokemon like Weedle and Caterpie do have a tier called NFE (Not Fully Evolved) now granted some Pokemon are good if NFE (i.e. Trapinch and Pikachu) some Pokemon were designed to not compete with others. Sure you can fight Weedle versus Tyranitar, and sure no one is going to tell you "no you can't do that", but there will be people telling you that Weedle vs. Tyranitar is not too hot of an idea. Flareon is a perfect example of Nintendo designing a Pokemon to not compete with others, you don't think Nintendo didn't realize "we gave a very physical attack oriented Pokemon very few choices when it came to physical attacks" do you? Regigigas is another example, they made sure it didn't get Protect or Rest. And no, Nintendo will never release a list saying "these Pokemon are good, these Pokemon are ok, these Pokemon suck" no company would ever do that cause it would completely take away from the game; Blizzard for instance will never say "rogues are the best kekekek" because then everyone would be rolling rogue. Just like Nintendo will never say "teams without Garchomp in it are destined to fail"; and we must remember that the Tiers Lists are for competitive play, it is indeed very possible to defeat the Elite Four and the Champion using UU and NU Pokemon, but in WiFi games, no a Lopunny will not be able to legitimately beat a Physical Dragonite 1v1. Imagine how annoying it would be to fight an Elite Four member with all OU Pokemon using Hax Items that didn't follow standard battle rules. First battle Bug, Choice Scarf Parasect to Spore EVERYONE of your Pokemon, Choice Band Heracross rocking people who can't counter it, Agility sweeping Life Orb Scizor bending over everything that wasn't resistant to Steel Bug and Fighting, Shuckle, sitting there with its 614 max defenses with only 3 weaknesses, 2 not being too common, Yanmega scouting us for attacks and passing on its speed to someone really slow, and then Pinsir with a bone to pick with whatever was left. Then we'd have Pokemon like a max Cursed out Snorlax getting Quick Claw procs, or Garchomps with Bright Powder milking the fruits of Tyranitar's labor. That's all I'll say for now, and props to whoever is able to read all this. [[User:Broloth|Broloth]] 06:33, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

== Learnsets ==

Okay, I know we'll all agree that other sites that indicate the type and category of a move on the Pokémon's page are helpful for quick lookers. Sure, we shouldn't add power, accuracy, PP, and all that, but at the very least the type and category of the move.

[[User:TTEchidna/Sandbox/Bulbasaur|So this is what I've come up with for Bulbasaur]]. It still indicates STAB, if a person's too lazy to scroll up to see what types the Pokémon is, and for Gen IV, it indicates Physical/Special in addition to type so that a person can pick out moves depending on the stats of the Pokémon as well as its types.

Thoughts? I certainly think that this could make the Pokémon pages much better than they are. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:I think you could be on to something here. It even looks a bit better, aesthetically speaking, than the current table. [[User:Blink|Blink]] 19:24, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

:: Looks very nice. I feel sorry for you though, having to do that 492 more times. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 06:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah... unless I get some help... '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 06:32, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
::::That's very good. I like the layout better than the current one, since it seems easier to read and clearly shows whether a move is physical, special or status. -[[User:DarkMazer|DarkMazer]] 03:37, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Now the best question. Wanna help me add them to all the rest?

Also: I have a new, possibly more improved proposal. [[User:TTEchidna/Sandbox/Bulbasaur/Future|Check it out]]. This way, when we get Gen V, VI, VII, and so on... we won't have to move stuff around besides the current moveset. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 10:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
: I like your design. *nod* I would say leave it as separate tables on the same pages for Gen V but when we get to Gen VI change it to separate pages altogether. Though that would be a lot of work of converting all the pages. Perhaps we should start changing the pages once we hear Gen VI will be released? (If it does :P)'''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 19:58, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
::Wouldn't really be much work, per se, if we already have all of the movesets organized into those tables-within-tables like Bulbasaur and some others have. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:45, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
:::So when can we get started on changing them? - - - '''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 10:16, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

== Body shape ==

In GenIV, rather than by colour, Pokémon are able to be searched by a general body shape... Unfortunately, these categories are all symbols rather than names. This would make it hard to be included here, but I thought I'd put forth the idea anyway: Sort Pokémon by body shape, like we do with colour. The first thing, though, is that we'd have to come up with an agreeable standard on what each category should be named (since it doesn't do that for us). Just putting forth the idea for discussion, and whether or not the community thinks it would be useful. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 04:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
:We definately want to have some coverage on it but, as you say, it's going to be diffcult to implement. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:10, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::So, anyone got any ideas for this? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
:::How about we get the sprites from the game for it? As for the category.. um.. "Body Shape 1 Pokémon", etc? That's a suggestion I have. {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{Ani|380}} 03:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
::::But who'll say which is which? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

== Alternate Coloration ==

I've been having plans for starting a subsection to the biology section that describes a Pokémon's alternate coloring. But the thing is, TinatheKirlia told me that such a subsection would be unnecessary because the sprite templates on each article. But I (was with TTEchidna, apparently) believe that describing what a Pokémon's shiny version looks like would be better.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 20:10, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
:It seems no more redundant than describing the normal form in the first place... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 22:47, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::Eh, I really think that there are more important things than telling what color a Pokémon is when shiny, but most especially since the sprites do so, and easily demonstrate the differences among the generations (Bulbasaur itself is tan in Gen II, but green with a dark green bulb in III and IV). '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Sometimes the shiny colors (I think this is why) in GenII is because of the limitations of the GBC. Some simple colors, such as [[Red Gyarados]], stay but others such as Bulbasaur and Charizard get a little discolored, because of the limitations.
:::I dunno, but that's my guess. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 23:33, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

::::Sorry about that misunderstanding, TTE. I thought you were agreeing with me.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 23:23, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

== pronunciation ==

Just relizing that I had "THE OFFICIAL Pokémon Handbook" infront of me. I always hated not knowing how to say the names correctly and in this book it says how is it possible to add a section for the first genneration Pokémon. (That's the only handbook I currently have from my school library).--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 01:32, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I have all of the series of those offical handbooks.................(but what does that have to do with Project Pokédex?????) --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 01:35, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

well they have the pronunciation on every Pokémon shouldn't we put how to say the name of the Pokémon on their page?--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 01:39, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Most people know how to say it......but it's an idea........--[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 02:00, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I say this because I'm always fighting with my bro (who is 24) about how to say kyogre
He says it as if it was katakana and I disagree.--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 02:03, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

:It would be a useful addition to the infoboxes. The main question is if there is an official source for beyond the first generation. (Since some people insist that the dub pronounces things wrong for some reason.) I know we got Bonsly confirmed from PUSA but not of any source for the rest. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

well I have the handbooks of the second generation, and the third generation as well. --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 00:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:I usually pronounce Kyogre as Kai-oh-great (minus the t at the end). But the anime is Kai-oh-ge... '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]Hi''' 13:52, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I usually pronounce it Kai-oh-ger.
How do i participate in Project Pokédex.
Where exactly is the evolution box on the page.

== R/S sprites ==

I know you guys aren't done uploading them, but are we gonna do the R/S sprites? Even though we have the Emerald ones... the R/S ones are half distracting. I dunno, just wondering.. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 19:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:All sprites means ''all'' of 'em. The only problem I see us running into is the shiny Emerald sprites. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 19:19, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

== Shadow ==

So um... where should we put info on the Shadow Pokémon? Probably under Game info, or Game locations.. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:That'd be a good idea, as a subsection of that. Like...

:Probaly under Game Info..... [[Image:Ani234MS.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|MERRY]] [[Image:Ani385MS.gif]] [[User talk:Theryguy512|CHRISTMAS]][[Image:Ani225MS.gif]] 23:55, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

===Shadow (name)===
In (Colo/XD) a [[Shadow Pokémon|Shadow]] (name) can be found in (location), trained by (trainer). Its moves are (moves) and, when purified, it learns (moves).

'''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 22:03, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:We already have this information. The location table notes which Pokémon are shadow and the moves are noted under the moveset heading. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:45, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

== Size and Weight ==

Hello, I'd like to discuss about the weight and size of Pokémon we display in the pokédex pages, I think they should be there, but they are not. (if they are and I don't see it, please notice me :-])
what do you think?
[[User:MewUser|MewUser]] 11:32, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
:That information is in the infobox of every article... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 12:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

== Joining ==

I, Darth Cookie Monster, is humbly asking to join this project[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 18:49, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
:You don't have to ask. Just add your name to the list of participants. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:41, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

== Held items ==

The items Pokémon sometimes hold in the wild. I'm not sure how to implement the information yet but we are currently missing it. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:54, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking about this - maybe add a section in the usebox with Held Item, and a percentage. [[User:Dlt4|Don]] 17:44, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

== Number redirecting ==

should the national dex numbers redirect to the pokemon's data page? I can do that if needed. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]][[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 15:09, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

== Help! ==

How do I join Project Pokédex?[[User:Medicham225|Medicham225]] 18:49, 24 May 2008 (UTC)medicham225
:Simply add your name to the list of participants. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:07, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you.[[User:Medicham225|Medicham225]] 23:26, 24 May 2008 (UTC)Medicham225

== Generation 4 Smogon links ==

The links for generation 4 'mon are still not working correctly. Zhen Lin implied that it would be possible to make the link as a function of the name of the article. [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zhen_Lin&diff=prev&oldid=270480#BulbaBot_request] --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 05:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

== About the sprites and trivia ==

Can we, you know, STOP FREAKING MENTIONING THEM THERE? They're all charted up, GO FIND THEM AND UPLOAD THEM instead of putting it in the trivia.

Also, next time anyone mentions something as obvious as "the Gen II backsprites and Gen III backsprites for Gen I and II Pokémon are similar" is going to be yelled at. You know why? BECAUSE THEY ALL ARE, just COLORIZED. Game Freak was lazy. Heck, they would've reused the Gen I ones if they weren't total crap. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:09, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

== Why (Pokémon) rather than (species)? ==

I mean, Ash's Butterfree is also a Pokémon. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 04:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

: Your point? --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|Fire]] 07:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

::Obviously that it's not correct and should be changed. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 03:36, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:::[[Species]] is something very different. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 03:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:::: Pokémon is the creature, Species is the Pokémon's Classification. Bulbasaur is a Pokémon and "Seed Pokémon" uis a type of species. --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|Fire]] 05:56, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

== Admission ==

Am I allowed to join? [[User:Mr.Lucario|Mr.Lucario]] 11:13, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:Everyone is. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 15:42, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Legendary Pokemon ==

I, BlazeFireKitty, spend a lot of time researching legendary Pokemon, and I'll add every single thing that I can get about them to their pages. The pages should really become very informative soon. I've noticed that a few are missing info under behavior and such, because the page is so focused on their game stats.

User:Broloth

2008-08-03T17:31:48Z

Broloth:

User:Broloth

2008-08-03T17:23:01Z

Broloth: New page: Broloth is a PokeMon Trainer that specializes in collecting shiny PokeMon. So far his history of shinies have included, in order: Encountered/Caught/Defeated/Escaped From Gyrados (PokeMon...

Broloth is a PokeMon Trainer that specializes in collecting shiny PokeMon. So far his history of shinies have included, in order:

Encountered/Caught/Defeated/Escaped From Gyrados (PokeMon Silver but who hasn't?)
Encountered Ditto (PokeMon Crystal)
Encountered Sudowoodo
Encountered/Caught Geodude (PokeMon Silver)
Encountered/Caught Geodude (PokeMon Ruby)
Encountered/Caught Geodude (PokeMon Diamond)
Encountered/Caught Pubitar (FireRed)
Received Charmander (PokeMon Gold)
Received Beldum (PokeMon Emerald)
Hatched Riolu (PokeMon Diamond)

Water (type)

2008-07-28T04:45:33Z

Broloth: /* Trivia */

{{ElementalTypes}}
{{TypeNotice|Water|みず|Mizu}}
Some notable [[Pokémon trainer]]s that specialize in the Water-type include [[Misty]] of [[Cerulean City]], [[Wallace]] and [[Juan]] of [[Sootopolis City]] and [[Crasher Wake]] of [[Pastoria City]].

==Statistical averages==

{{BaseStats|
HP=69 |
Attack=70 |
Defense=73 |
SpAtk=69 |
SpDef=67 |
Speed=62 }}

==Battle properties==
Water-type moves:
* Are super effective against: {{t|Fire}}, {{t|Ground}}, {{t|Rock}}
* Are not very effective against: {{t|Dragon}}, {{t|Grass}}, '''Water'''
* Have no effect against: None

Water-type Pokémon:
* Resist: {{t|Fire}}, {{t|Ice}}, {{t|Steel}}, '''Water'''
* Are weak to: {{t|Electric}}, {{t|Grass}}
* Have immunity to: None

==Characteristics==
Defensively, the Water-type is very strong when combined with high defensive stats. It has no weaknesses to any types which usually use [[physical move]]s, Grass-type attacks are rare and a Water-type Pokémon can simply switch away from any Electric-type attacks. However, switching is unnecessary if the Pokémon in question are part Ground like {{p|Quagsire}}, {{p|Swampert}}, {{p|Whiscash}}, and {{p|Gastrodon}}.

The Water-type is also useful offensively. A good amount of Water-type Pokémon can learn {{m|Ice Beam}} to deal with Dragon and Grass-types, which would make their resistance to Water-type attacks irrelevant. It can be extremely useful to be super-effective against Ground- and {{type2|Rock}}s when traveling through caves, etc. As a result of these advantages, as well as having to get through water routes using {{m|Surf}}, most trainers usually have at least one Water-type in their [[party]].

==Pokémon==

===Pure Water-type Pokémon===
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! #
!
! Name
|-
|007
|[[Image:007MS.gif]]
|{{p|Squirtle}}
|-
|008
|[[Image:008MS.gif]]
|{{p|Wartortle}}
|-
|009
|[[Image:009MS.gif]]
|{{p|Blastoise}}
|-
|054
|[[Image:054MS.gif]]
|{{p|Psyduck}}
|-
|055
|[[Image:055MS.gif]]
|{{p|Golduck}}
|-
|060
|[[Image:060MS.gif]]
|{{p|Poliwag}}
|-
|061
|[[Image:061MS.gif]]
|{{p|Poliwhirl}}
|-
|086
|[[Image:086MS.gif]]
|{{p|Seel}}
|-
|090
|[[Image:090MS.gif]]
|{{p|Shellder}}
|-
|098
|[[Image:098MS.gif]]
|{{p|Krabby}}
|-
|099
|[[Image:099MS.gif]]
|{{p|Kingler}}
|-
|116
|[[Image:116MS.gif]]
|{{p|Horsea}}
|-
|117
|[[Image:117MS.gif]]
|{{p|Seadra}}
|-
|118
|[[Image:118MS.gif]]
|{{p|Goldeen}}
|-
|119
|[[Image:119MS.gif]]
|{{p|Seaking}}
|-
|120
|[[Image:120MS.gif]]
|{{p|Staryu}}
|-
|129
|[[Image:129MS.gif]]
|{{p|Magikarp}}
|-
|134
|[[Image:134MS.gif]]
|{{p|Vaporeon}}
|-
|158
|[[Image:158MS.gif]]
|{{p|Totodile}}
|-
|159
|[[Image:159MS.gif]]
|{{p|Croconaw}}
|-
|160
|[[Image:160MS.gif]]
|{{p|Feraligatr}}
|-
|183
|[[Image:183MS.gif]]
|{{p|Marill}}
|-
|184
|[[Image:184MS.gif]]
|{{p|Azumarill}}
|-
|186
|[[Image:186MS.gif]]
|{{p|Politoed}}
|-
|223
|[[Image:223MS.gif]]
|{{p|Remoraid}}
|-
|224
|[[Image:224MS.gif]]
|{{p|Octillery}}
|-
|245
|[[Image:245MS.gif]]
|{{p|Suicune}}
|-
|258
|[[Image:258MS.gif]]
|{{p|Mudkip}}
|-
|320
|[[Image:320MS.gif]]
|{{p|Wailmer}}
|-
|321
|[[Image:321MS.gif]]
|{{p|Wailord}}
|-
|341
|[[Image:341MS.gif]]
|{{p|Corphish}}
|-
|349
|[[Image:349MS.gif]]
|{{p|Feebas}}
|-
|350
|[[Image:350MS.gif]]
|{{p|Milotic}}
|-
|366
|[[Image:366MS.gif]]
|{{p|Clamperl}}
|-
|367
|[[Image:367MS.gif]]
|{{p|Huntail}}
|-
|368
|[[Image:368MS.gif]]
|{{p|Gorebyss}}
|-
|370
|[[Image:370MS.gif]]
|{{p|Luvdisc}}
|-
|382
|[[Image:382MS.gif]]
|{{p|Kyogre}}
|-
|393
|[[Image:393MS.gif]]
|{{p|Piplup}}
|-
|394
|[[Image:394MS.gif]]
|{{p|Prinplup}}
|-
|418
|[[Image:418MS.png]]
|{{p|Buizel}}
|-
|419
|[[Image:419MS.png]]
|{{p|Floatzel}}
|-
|422
|[[Image:422MS.png]]
|{{p|Shellos}}
|-
|456
|[[Image:456MS.png]]
|{{p|Finneon}}
|-
|457
|[[Image:457MS.png]]
|{{p|Lumineon}}
|-
|489
|[[Image:489MS.png]]
|{{p|Phione}}
|-
|490
|[[Image:490MS.png]]
|{{p|Manaphy}}
|}

===Half Water-type Pokémon===
''Primary Water-type Pokémon''
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! #
!
! Name
! Type 1
! Type 2
|-
|062
|[[Image:062MS.gif]]
|{{p|Poliwrath}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:FightingIC.gif]]
|-
|072
|[[Image:072MS.gif]]
|{{p|Tentacool}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:PoisonIC.gif]]
|-
|073
|[[Image:073MS.gif]]
|{{p|Tentacruel}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:PoisonIC.gif]]
|-
|079
|[[Image:079MS.gif]]
|{{p|Slowpoke}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:PsychicIC.gif]]
|-
|080
|[[Image:080MS.gif]]
|{{p|Slowbro}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:PsychicIC.gif]]
|-
|087
|[[Image:087MS.gif]]
|{{p|Dewgong}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:IceIC.gif]]
|-
|091
|[[Image:091MS.gif]]
|{{p|Cloyster}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:IceIC.gif]]
|-
|121
|[[Image:121MS.gif]]
|{{p|Starmie}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:PsychicIC.gif]]
|-
|130
|[[Image:130MS.gif]]
|{{p|Gyarados}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:FlyingIC.gif]]
|-
|131
|[[Image:131MS.gif]]
|{{p|Lapras}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:IceIC.gif]]
|-
|170
|[[Image:170MS.gif]]
|{{p|Chinchou}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:ElectricIC.gif]]
|-
|171
|[[Image:171MS.gif]]
|{{p|Lanturn}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:ElectricIC.gif]]
|-
|194
|[[Image:194MS.gif]]
|{{p|Wooper}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:GroundIC.gif]]
|-
|195
|[[Image:195MS.gif]]
|{{p|Quagsire}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:GroundIC.gif]]
|-
|199
|[[Image:199MS.gif]]
|{{p|Slowking}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:PsychicIC.gif]]
|-
|211
|[[Image:211MS.gif]]
|{{p|Qwilfish}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:PoisonIC.gif]]
|-
|222
|[[Image:222MS.gif]]
|{{p|Corsola}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
|-
|226
|[[Image:226MS.gif]]
|{{p|Mantine}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:FlyingIC.gif]]
|-
|230
|[[Image:230MS.gif]]
|{{p|Kingdra}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:DragonIC.gif]]
|-
|259
|[[Image:259MS.gif]]
|{{p|Marshtomp}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:GroundIC.gif]]
|-
|260
|[[Image:260MS.gif]]
|{{p|Swampert}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:GroundIC.gif]]
|-
|270
|[[Image:270MS.gif]]
|{{p|Lotad}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:GrassIC.gif]]
|-
|271
|[[Image:271MS.gif]]
|{{p|Lombre}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:GrassIC.gif]]
|-
|272
|[[Image:272MS.gif]]
|{{p|Ludicolo}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:GrassIC.gif]]
|-
|278
|[[Image:278MS.gif]]
|{{p|Wingull}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:FlyingIC.gif]]
|-
|279
|[[Image:279MS.gif]]
|{{p|Pelipper}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:FlyingIC.gif]]
|-
|318
|[[Image:318MS.gif]]
|{{p|Carvanha}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:DarkIC.gif]]
|-
|319
|[[Image:319MS.gif]]
|{{p|Sharpedo}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:DarkIC.gif]]
|-
|339
|[[Image:339MS.gif]]
|{{p|Barboach}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:GroundIC.gif]]
|-
|340
|[[Image:340MS.gif]]
|{{p|Whiscash}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:GroundIC.gif]]
|-
|342
|[[Image:342MS.gif]]
|{{p|Crawdaunt}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:DarkIC.gif]]
|-
|369
|[[Image:369MS.gif]]
|{{p|Relicanth}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
|-
|395
|[[Image:395MS.gif]]
|{{p|Empoleon}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:SteelIC.gif]]
|-
|423
|[[Image:423MS.png]]
|{{p|Gastrodon}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:GroundIC.gif]]
|-
|458
|[[Image:458MS.png]]
|{{p|Mantyke}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:FlyingIC.gif]]
|-
|484
|[[Image:484MS.png]]
|{{p|Palkia}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:DragonIC.gif]]
|}

''Secondary Water-type Pokémon''
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! #
!
! Name
! Type 1
! Type 2
|-
|138
|[[Image:138MS.gif]]
|{{p|Omanyte}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
|-
|139
|[[Image:139MS.gif]]
|{{p|Omastar}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
|-
|140
|[[Image:140MS.gif]]
|{{p|Kabuto}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
|-
|141
|[[Image:141MS.gif]]
|{{p|Kabutops}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
|-
|283
|[[Image:283MS.gif]]
|{{p|Surskit}}
| align="center" |[[Image:BugIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
|-
|363
|[[Image:363MS.gif]]
|{{p|Spheal}}
| align="center" |[[Image:IceIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
|-
|364
|[[Image:364MS.gif]]
|{{p|Sealeo}}
| align="center" |[[Image:IceIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
|-
|365
|[[Image:365MS.gif]]
|{{p|Walrein}}
| align="center" |[[Image:IceIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
|-
|400
|[[Image:400MS.gif]]
|{{p|Bibarel}}
| align="center" |[[Image:NormalIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
|}

==Moves==

===Damage-dealing moves===
{| {{bluetable2|r sortable}} width="100%"
|- class="c"
! Name
! Category
! Contest
! Power
! Accuracy
! PP
! Target
! Notes
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Aqua Jet}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Physical}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Beauty}}
| class="c" | 40
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | Always attacks first.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Aqua Tail}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Physical}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Cute}}
| class="c" | 90
| class="c" | 90%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" |
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Brine}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Special}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Smart}}
| class="c" | 65
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | Does double damage when the target's HP is 50% or less.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Bubble}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Special}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Cute}}
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 30
| class="c" | Both foes
| class="l" | Has a 10% chance of lowering the opponent's {{stat|Speed}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|BubbleBeam}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Special}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Beauty}}
| class="c" | 65
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | Has a 10% chance of lowering the opponent's {{stat|Speed}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Clamp}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Physical}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Tough}}
| class="c" | 35
| class="c" | 75%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | Attacks for two to five turns.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Crabhammer}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Physical}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Tough}}
| class="c" | 90
| class="c" | 85%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | Has a high critical hit ratio.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Dive}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Physical}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Beauty}}
| class="c" | 80
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | User dives underwater on the first turn, then attacks in the second turn.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Hydro Cannon}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Special}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Beauty}}
| class="c" | 150
| class="c" | 90%
| class="c" | 5
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | Attacks on the first turn but must rest on the second turn.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Hydro Pump}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Special}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Beauty}}
| class="c" | 120
| class="c" | 80%
| class="c" | 5
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" |
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Muddy Water}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Special}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Tough}}
| class="c" | 95
| class="c" | 85%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | Both foes
| class="l" | May lower target's {{stat|accuracy}} by one stage.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Octazooka}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Special}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Tough}}
| class="c" | 65
| class="c" | 85%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | May lower target's {{stat|accuracy}} by one stage.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Surf}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Special}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Beauty}}
| class="c" | 95
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | Everyone else
| class="l" | In battle: Does double damage when foe is using {{m|Dive}}. Out of battle: Allows the user to travel on water.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Water Gun}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Special}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Cute}}
| class="c" | 40
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 25
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" |
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Water Pulse}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Special}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Beauty}}
| class="c" | 60
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | May {{status|Confusion|confuse}} opponent.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Water Spout}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Special}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Beauty}}
| class="c" | 150
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 5
| class="c" | Both foes
| class="l" | The lower the user's HP, the lower the power of the move.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Waterfall}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Physical}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Tough}}
| class="c" | 80
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | In battle: Has 10% chance of making the target {{status|Flinch|flinch}}. Out of battle: Allows the user to climb waterfalls.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Whirlpool}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Special}}
| class="c" | {{ic| Beauty}}
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | 70%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | In battle: Attacks for two to five turns. Out of battle: Clears whirlpools.
|}

===Non-damaging moves===
{| {{bluetable2|r sortable}} width="100%"
|- class="c"
! Name
! Category
! Contest
! Power
! Accuracy
! PP
! Target
! Notes
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Aqua Ring}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Status}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Beauty}}
| class="c" | —
| class="c" | —%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | User
| class="l" | The user envelops itself in a veil made of water. It regains some HP on every turn.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Rain Dance}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Status}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Tough}}
| class="c" | —
| class="c" | —%
| class="c" | 5
| class="c" | All
| class="l" | The user summons a [[Weather conditions#Heavy rain|heavy rain]] that falls for five turns, powering up Water-type moves.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Water Sport}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Status}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Cute}}
| class="c" | —
| class="c" | —%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | User
| class="l" | Weakens {{type2|Fire}} moves while the user is in the battle.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Withdraw}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Status}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Cute}}
| class="c" | —
| class="c" | —%
| class="c" | 40
| class="c" | User
| class="l" | Increases the user's {{stat|Defense}} by 1 level.
|}

==Trivia==
* Of all seventeen types, the Water-type is the most abundant, with 92 Pokémon species, nearly 19% of the entire known Pokédex, being of the Water-type. This probably reflects all the different species of lifeforms that inhabit the real world's oceans, lakes and rivers.
* All [[Generation I]] Water-type Pokémon are weak to {{t|Electric}} moves because there were no dual {{t|Dragon}}-, {{t|Electric}}-, or {{type2|Grass}}s to neutralize the weakness and dual Water/{{type2|Ground}} Pokémon were not introduced until [[Generation II]].
* Every main protagonist in the anime (with the obvious exception of [[Max]]) has had at least one Water-type Pokémon. {{Ash}} has {{AP|Squirtle}}, {{AP|Kingler}}, {{AP|Totodile}}, {{AP|Corphish}} and {{AP|Buizel}}, all of [[Misty]]'s Pokémon except {{TP|Misty|Togetic}} and {{TP|Misty|Azurill}} are Water-types, [[Brock]] has {{TP|Brock|Ludicolo}} and {{TP|Brock|Marshtomp}}, {{Tracey}} has {{TP|Tracey|Marill}}, {{an|May}} has {{TP|May|Wartortle}}, {{an|Dawn}} has {{TP|Dawn|Piplup}} and used to have Buizel, [[Jessie]] had {{TP|Jessie|Shellder}} and {{TP|Jessie|Magikarp}}, and James had {{TP|James|Gyarados}}.
* Although [[Misty]] stats in the games that she prefers an all out offense using water Pokémon, most Water Pokémon in the game usually tend to have higher defenses, gaining the title "Bulky Water" Pokémon. Some examples include Slowbro, Slowking, Suicune, and Gyrados.

=In other languages=
* French: '''Eau'''
* German: '''Wasser'''
* Italian: '''Acqua'''
* Spanish: '''Agua'''
* Korean: '''물''' ''mul''
* Hebrew: '''מים''' ''mayim''

[[de:Wasser (Typ)]]
[[fr:Eau]]
[[ja:みず]]
[[pt:Tipo Water]]

Jirachi (Pokémon)

2008-07-27T01:21:41Z

Broloth: /* Trivia */

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Rayquaza | next=Deoxys }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Jirachi |
jname=ジラーチ |
tmname=Jirachi |
image=385Jirachi.png |
caption=Artwork from R/S/E |
ndex=385 |
hdex=201 |
typen=2 |
type1=Steel |
type2=Psychic |
species=Wish |
height-ftin=1′00″ |
height-m=0.3 |
weight-lbs=2.4 |
weight-kg=1.1 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Serene Grace |
ability2= |
egggroupn=0 |
egggroup1=No eggs |
egggroup2= |
hatchsteps=30,720 |
effortyield=3 HP |
expyield=215 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gender=none |
female=0 |
male=0 |
color=Yellow |
catchrate=3 |
body=12 |
pokefordex=jirachi |
generation=3 |
footnotes=}}
'''Jirachi''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ジラーチ''' ''Jirachi'') is a dual-type {{2t|Steel|Psychic}} Pokémon.

Jirachi evolves neither to anything, nor from anything.

==Biology==
Jirachi has such short legs becuase it spends most of its time floating and rarely walks.
===Physiology===
Jirachi is a small, white humanoid Pokémon. Jirachi has short, stubby legs like {{P|Cleffa}} and arms that makes Jirachi look like it's wearing a long-sleeved shirt. There is a curved line on Jirachi's stomach which, in the anime, conceals a third eye. Jirachi has two yellow streamers on its back. Jirachi appears to be wearing a yellow headdress that resembles a star. Three of the points have a teal-colored tag on them. Jirachi has smooth skin that apparently has the hardness of {{t|steel}}.
====Gender differences====
Jirachi is a genderless species.
====Special abilities====
Jirachi has the ability to grant wishes.

Jirachi is the [[Signature move|only known Pokémon]] that learns {{m|Doom Desire}}.

===Behavior===
Jirachi spends most of its time asleep and is only awake for seven days once every 1,000 years when a voice of purity sings to it. During this time, Jirachi has the power to grant wishes. It has a child-like personality.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Mountain.gif|right|frame|[[List of Pokémon by habitat#Mountain Pokémon|Mountain Pokémon]]]]
In the anime, Jirachi hibernates in [[Forina]].

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:JirachiAnime.jpg|thumb|right|Jirachi in the anime]]
[[Jirachi (anime)|Jirachi's only anime appearance]] was in [[Jirachi: Wish Maker]]. Jirachi will only awaken during the week of the thousand-year comet and if there is a partner that can be its friend. [[Max]] filled that role in the movie. However, [[Butler|The Great Butler]] wanted to use Jirachi's powers to awaken {{p|Groudon}}. It is interesting to note that Jirachi appears to be a masculine Pokémon referred to as "he" in the English dub. It is referred as "she" in the Brazilian Portuguese dub. Jirachi is also in the opening sequence of [[The Rise of Darkrai]].

==In the manga==
The seven days Jirachi was awake coincided with the seven days of the opening ceremonies for the [[Battle Frontier]]. At the request of [[Professor Oak]], {{Special|Emerald}} tried to capture Jirachi while he was there. However, [[Guille Hideout]] managed to capture Jirachi first. Jirachi is supposed to be captured to revive the five petrified Pokédex Holders.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Jirachi (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
* [[Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire]]: While in the Ruins, one of the slot machine prizes is the chance to capture Jirachi. Jirachi will move around and must be hit three times in 30 seconds for the capture to be successful. There is only one chance per game.

==Other appearances==
===[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]===
Jirachi appears as a rare Poké Ball Pokémon in its first appearance in the Super Smash Bros. series. The chance of it appearing is 1 in 493. Like the other "secret" Pokémon, it drops rare items instead of just flying away. In Jirachi's case, the items are stickers.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=steel
|gen=3
|rubydex=A legend states that Jirachi will make true any {{M|wish}} that is written on the notes attached to head when it awakens. If this Pokémon senses danger, it will fight without awakening.
|sapphiredex=Jirachi will awaken from its sleep of a thousand years if you sing to it in a voice of purity. It is said to make true any {{M|wish}} that people desire.
|emeralddex=Jirachi is said to make {{M|wish}}es come true. While it sleeps, a tough crystalline shell envelops the body to protect it from enemies.
|firereddex=It is said to make any {{M|wish}} come true. It is only awake for only seven days out of a thousand years.
|leafgreendex=It is said to make any {{M|wish}} come true. It is only awake for only seven days out of a thousand years.
|diamonddex=It is said to have the ability to grant any wish for just one week every thousand years.
|pearldex=It is said to use its power to fulfill any wish within the 7 days it awakens every 1000 years.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=steel |
gen=3 |
rsrarity=One |
rsarea=[[Pokémon Colosseum Bonus Disc]] (US) [[Pokémon Channel]] (EU) |
dparea=[[Pal Park]] |
palarea=Mountain |
}}

====In side games====

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{steel color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Channel]]
| [[Viridian Forest (Channel)|Camp Starlight]] (Sunday)
|-
| [[Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire]]
| Ruins Slot Machine
|-
| [[Pokémon Trozei!]]
| Random Agent Cards Mr. Who's Den
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]
| [[Wish Cave]] (99F)
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2]]
| [[Final Maze]] (B23F)
|}

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats|
HP=100 |
Attack=100 |
Defense=100 |
SpAtk=100 |
SpDef=100 |
Speed=100 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=steel|
type2=psychic|
Normal= 50 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 50 |
Poison= 0 |
Ground= 200 |
Rock= 50 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 25 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 50 |
Dark= 100 }}

===Learnset===
{{learnset intro|Jirachi}}
====By [[level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|steel|psychic|4|3|Jirachi}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Wish|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Confusion|Psychic|Special|50|100|25|Smart|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|5|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|10|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|15|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|20|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|25|Refresh|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|30|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|35|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|40|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|120|100|15|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|45|Gravity|Psychic|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|50|Healing Wish|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|55|Future Sight|Psychic|Special|80|90|15|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|60|Cosmic Power|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|65|Last Resort|Normal|Physical|130|100|5|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|70|Doom Desire|Steel|Special|120|85|5|Cool|2||'''}}
{{movelist/note|4}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|Steel|Psychic|4|3|Jirachi}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM03]]|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM04]]|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM16]]|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM20]]|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM24]]|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM25]]|Thunder|Electric|Special|120|70|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM29]]|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM30]]|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM33]]|Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM34]]|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM37]]|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM40]]|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM48]]|Skill Swap|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM53]]|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM56]]|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10|Tough|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM57]]|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM60]]|Drain Punch|Fighting|Physical|60|100|5|Beauty|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM67]]|Recycle|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM70]]|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM73]]|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM76]]|Stealth Rock|Rock|Status|—|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM77]]|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM85]]|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM86]]|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM89]]|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM91]]|Flash Cannon|Steel|Special|80|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM92]]|Trick Room|Psychic|Status|—|—|5|Cute|2}}
{{movelist/note|4}}

====By [[breeding]]====
Jirachi cannot breed or inherit any moves.

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|steel|psychic|4b|3|Jirachi}}
{{mtentry4|yes|yes|no|Body Slam|Normal|Physical|85|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{mtentry4|no|yes|no|Defense Curl|Normal|Status|—|—|40|Cute|2}}
{{mtentry4|yes|yes|no|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|120|100|15|Tough|0}}
{{mtentry4|no|yes|no|DynamicPunch|Fighting|Physical|100|50|5|Cool|2}}
{{mtentry4|no|yes|no|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mtentry4|no|yes|no|Fire Punch|Fire|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mtentry4|no|yes|no|Ice Punch|Ice|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mtentry4|no|yes|no|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|75|100|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mtentry4|yes|yes|no|Mimic|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mtentry4|no|yes|no|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3}}
{{mtentry4|no|yes|no|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mtentry4|no|yes|no|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mtentry4|no|yes|no|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cool|3}}
{{mtentry4|yes|yes|no|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mtentry4|no|yes|no|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mtentry4|no|yes|no|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mtentry4|no|yes|no|ThunderPunch|Electric|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mtentry4|yes|yes|no|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|20|Cool|2}}
{{tutor/note|4}}

===Side game data===

{{Side game|
type=steel |
ndex=385 |
PinRScatch=yes |
HC=C |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=99.9% |
area=Mt. Moonview |
P1= Wishes can always come true! You mustn't ever give up! |
P2= Oh, no! My health is all the way down to half! |
P3= I'm sorry... I might return to sleep... |
PL= Yes! I leveled up! Your wishes should come true! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=no |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox/0|385|Jirachi|2|Steel|Psychic}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=steel|
gen=3|
gender=none|
ndex=385|
name=Jirachi|
animated=1|
}}

==Trivia==
* Jirachi shares similarities with the Beanstar from ''Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga'', they both can only be awoken when sung to with a voice of purity, and both grant wishes.
* In the anime, it is one of the few Pokémon who can talk.
* Jirachi and {{p|Manaphy}} have never been given an in-game location. As well, they were both stars in a [[Pokémon movie]] where they bonded with [[Max]] and {{an|May}}, respectively.
* Jirachi's [[Generation III]] sprites show its ''true eye'' opened. However, in its Diamond and Pearl sprites, its ''true eye'' is closed.
* Jirachi grants wishes during the seven days it is awake, this is similar to how once seven Dragon Balls are collected, you can make a wish in the anime Dragonball Z.
===Origin===
Jirachi's design and ability of granting wishes probably refer to the habit of "wishing upon a star", so that the wish will come true. Considering its humanoid appearance and ability to grant wishes, it is also possible that it was inspired by Arabic myths about {{wp|genie}}s, or djinn. In some myths, imprisoned genies would grant wishes to the person who released them. The tags of paper on its head are a reference toward {{wp|Tanabata}}.

====Name origin====
Jirachi gets its name from желать ''zhelatʹ'', which is Russian for "to desire". It could also be from the Japanese word 幸 ''sachi,'' which means wish, happiness, or fortune.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Jirachi
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Jirachi
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 지라치 ''Jirachi''

==Related Articles==
* [[Jirachi (anime)]]

==External links==
* [[wp:Jirachi|Article on Wikipedia]]
*[http://jirachi.yami-yugi.net/ Wish], the fanlisting for Jirachi

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[[Category:Pokémon that are not part of an evolutionary line]]
[[Category:Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Hoenn Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Genderless Pokémon]]
[[Category:Promotion-only Pokémon]]

[[de:Jirachi]]
[[fr:Jirachi]]
[[ja:ジラーチ]]
[[pl:Jirachi]]
[[pt:Jirachi (pokémon)]]

Prinplup (Pokémon)

2008-07-23T01:03:24Z

Broloth:

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Piplup | next=Empoleon }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Prinplup |
jname=ポッタイシ |
tmname=Pottaishi |
image=Art-Pottaishi.png |
caption=Artwork from Diamond/Pearl |
ndex=394 |
sdex=008 |
adex=207 |
typen=1 |
type1=Water |
type2= |
species=Penguin |
height-ftin=2′07″ |
height-m=0.8 |
weight-lbs=50.7 |
weight-kg=23.0 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Torrent |
ability2= |
egggroupn=2 |
egggroup1=Water 1 |
egggroup2=Ground |
hatchsteps=5,120 |
effortyield=2 SpA |
expyield=143 |
lv100exp=1,059,860 |
gender=both |
female=12.5 |
male=87.5 |
color=Blue |
catchrate=45 |
body= 06|
pokefordex= |
generation=4 |
footnotes= }}
'''Prinplup''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ポッタイシ''' ''Pottaishi'') is a {{t|Water}}-type Pokémon.

Prinplup comes with the [[ability]] {{a|Torrent}}, which increases the power of Water-type attacks by 50% once the Pokémon has less than one-third of its maximum HP.

Prinplup evolves from {{p|Piplup}} starting at Level 16 and into {{p|Empoleon}} starting at Level 36.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Prinplup resembles a blue penguin. It has yellow three-toed feet. Its body is mostly light-blue. There are four button-like spots on its stomach. Its wings are dark-blue with light-blue tips. It apparently has claws hidden in the flesh of its wings because it can learn {{m|Metal Claw}} and {{m|Shadow Claw}}. It has an owl-like face and two yellow crests running across the top of its head.
====Gender differences====
None

====Special abilities====
Prinplup's wings have the power to snap a tree trunk in two. Prinplup is also stronger at anything that Piplup is capable of and can learn Metal Claw and Shadow Claw.

===Behavior===
Prinplup tend to have a very high sense of self-pride.

===Habitat===
===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:Prinplup anime.JPG|thumb|[[Kenny's Prinplup]].]]
In ''[[DP004|Dawn of a New Era]]'', three young trainers stopped by with their [[starter Pokémon]]. However, the girl that was in this group had a Prinplup.

Prinplup also appeared in ''[[DP026|Getting the Pre-Contest Titters]]'' [[Kenny's Prinplup|under the ownership of]] {{si|Kenny}}. In [[DP027|the following episode]], it battled against [[Dawn's Piplup]].

==In the manga==
Berlitz owns a Prinplup when her {{p|Piplup}} evolved.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Prinplup (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=water
|gen=4
|diamonddex=It lives alone, away from others. Apparently, every one of them believes it is the most important.
|pearldex=Its wings deliver wicked blows that snap even the thickest of trees. It searches for prey in icy seas.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=water |
gen=4 |
dprarity=None |
dparea=Evolve from {{p|Piplup}} |
}}
====In side games====

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{water color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (Time and Darkness)]]
| [[Crevice Cave]] (B1-B10) [[Lower Crevice Cave]] (B1-B4) [[Mt. Avalanche]] (B1-B19)
|-
| [[Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia]]
| [[Hiaburu Field]]
|}

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats|
HP=64 |
Attack=66 |
Defense=68 |
SpAtk=81 |
SpDef=76 |
Speed=50 }}

===Type effectiveness===

{{DP type effectiveness|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

===Learnset===
{{intro template|learnset intro|Prinplup}}

====By [[level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|water|water|4|4|Prinplup}}
{{mlentry4|Previous|Pound|Normal|Physical|40|100|35|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|Previous|Growl|Normal|Status|—|100|40|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|Previous|Bubble|Water|Special|20|100|30|Cute|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|Previous|Water Sport|Water|Status|—|—|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|Previous|Peck|Flying|Physical|35|100|35|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|16|Metal Claw|Steel|Physical|50|95|35|Cool|2||''}}
{{mlentry4|19|Bide|Normal|Physical|—|100|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|24|BubbleBeam|Water|Special|65|100|20|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|28|Fury Attack|Normal|Physical|15|80|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|33|Brine|Water|Special|65|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|37|Whirlpool|Water|Special|15|70|15|Beauty|0||'''}}
{{mlentry4|42|Mist|Ice|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|46|Drill Peck|Flying|Physical|80|100|20|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|51|Hydro Pump|Water|Special|120|80|5|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{movelist/note|4}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|water|water|4|4|Prinplup}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM03]]|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM07]]|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM13]]|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM14]]|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM28]]|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM31]]|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM39]]|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM40]]|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM55]]|Brine|Water|Special|65|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM56]]|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10|Tough|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM65]]|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM76]]|Stealth Rock|Rock|Status|—|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM78]]|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM86]]|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|Varies|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM88]]|Pluck|Flying|Physical|60|100|20|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM01]]|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM03]]|Surf|Water|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM04]]|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM05]]|Defog|Flying|Status|—|—|15|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM06]]|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM07]]|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3||'''}}
{{movelist/note|4}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{eggmoves|water|water|4|4|Prinplup}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}} {{p|Growlithe}}, {{p|Arcanine}} {{p|Ponyta}}, {{p|Rapidash}} {{p|Farfetch'd}} {{p|Horsea}}, {{p|Seadra}}, {{p|Kingdra}} {{p|Jolteon}} {{p|Dratini}}, {{p|Dragonair}}, {{p|Dragonite}} {{p|Aipom}}, {{p|Ambipom}} {{p|Girafarig}} {{p|Sneasel}}, {{p|Weavile}} {{P|Mantine}} {{p|Torchic}}, {{p|Combusken}}, {{p|Blaziken}} {{p|Wingull}}, {{p|Pelipper}} {{p|Gorebyss}} {{p|Buizel}}, {{p|Floatzel}} {{p|Buneary}}, {{p|Lopunny}} {{p|Lucario}}|Agility|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Squirtle}}, {{p|Wartortle}}, {{p|Blastoise}} {{p|Seel}}, {{p|Dewgong}} {{p|Vaporeon}} {{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}} {{p|Corsola}} {{P|Mantine}} {{p|Milotic}} {{p|Clamperl}}, {{p|Huntail}}, {{p|Gorebyss}}|Aqua Ring|Water|Status|—|—|20|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Aipom}}, {{p|Ambipom}} {{p|Girafarig}} {{p|Sneasel}}, {{p|Weavile}} {{p|Zangoose}} {{p|Buneary}}, {{p|Lopunny}}|Double Hit|Normal|Physical|35|90|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Squirtle}}, {{p|Wartortle}}, {{p|Blastoise}} {{p|Horsea}}, {{p|Seadra}}, {{p|Kingdra}} {{p|Eevee}} {{p|Dunsparce}} {{p|Remoraid}}, {{P|Octillery}} {{p|Phanpy}},{{p|Donphan}} {{p|Zigzagoon}} {{p|Lotad}}, {{p|Lombre}}, {{p|Ludicolo}} {{p|Slakoth}},{{p|Vigoroth}},{{p|Slaking}} {{p|Torkoal}} {{p|Spinda}} {{p|Feebas}}, {{p|Milotic}}|Flail|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Diglett}}, {{p|Dugtrio}} {{p|Farfetch'd}} {{p|Swinub}}, {{p|Piloswine}}, {{p|Mamoswine}} {{p|Mudkip}}, {{p|Marshtomp}}, {{p|Swampert}} {{p|Zigzagoon}}, {{p|Linoone}} {{p|Relicanth}} {{p|Buizel}}, {{p|Floatzel}} {{p|Shellos}}, {{p|Gastrodon}}|Mud Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Squirtle}}, {{p|Wartortle}}, {{p|Blastoise}} {{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}} {{p|Totodile}}, {{p|Croconaw}}, {{p|Feraligatr}} {{p|Wooper}}, {{p|Quagsire}} {{p|Swinub}}, {{p|Piloswine}}, {{P|Mamoswine}} {{p|Mudkip}}, {{p|Marshtomp}}, {{p|Swampert}} {{p|Zigzagoon}}, {{P|Linoone}} {{p|Corphish}}, {{p|Crawdaunt}} {{p|Feebas}}, {{p|Milotic}} {{p|Clamperl}}, {{p|Huntail}}, {{p|Gorebyss}} {{p|Shellos}}, {{p|Gastrodon}}|Mud Sport|Ground|Status|—|—|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}} {{p|Dunsparce}} {{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}} {{p|Teddiursa}}, {{P|Ursaring}} {{p|Phanpy}}, {{p|Donphan}} {{p|Slakoth}},{{p|Vigoroth}},{{p|Slaking}} {{p|Whismur}}, {{P|Loudred}}, {{p|Exploud}} {{p|Spoink}}, {{p|Grumpig}} {{p|Relicanth}} {{p|Spheal}}, {{p|Sealeo}}, {{p|Walrein}}|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Nidoran♂}}, {{p|Nidorino}}, {{p|Nidoking}} {{p|Dratini}}, {{p|Dragonair}}, {{p|Dragonite}} {{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}} {{p|Mantine}} {{p|Wingull}}, {{p|Pelipper}} {{p|Whismur}}, {{P|Loudred}}, {{p|Exploud}} {{p|Clamperl}}, {{p|Huntail}}, {{p|Gorebyss}}|Supersonic|Normal|Status|—|55|20|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Squirtle}}, {{p|Wartortle}}, {{p|Blastoise}} {{p|Psyduck}}, {{p|Golduck}} {{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}} {{p|Wooper}}, {{p|Quagsire}} {{p|Dunsparce}} {{p|Kingdra}} {{p|Slakoth}},{{p|Vigoroth}},{{p|Slaking}} {{p|Spheal}}, {{p|Sealeo}}, {{p|Walrein}} {{p|Relicanth}} {{p|Bidoof}}, {{p|Bibarel}} {{p|Shellos}}, {{p|Gastrodon}} {{p|Hippopotas}},{{p|Hippowdon}}|Yawn|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|2}}
{{eggmoves/note|4}}

===Side game data===

{{Side game|
type=water |
Ranger2=yes |
typeG2= Water |
typeA2= Water |
field2= Cut x2 |
}}

===Evolution===
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="5" |
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Basic |
image=393.png |
name=Piplup }}
|{{EvoChart Box|
text=Level 16 |
image=394.png |
name=Prinplup }}
|{{EvoChart Box|
text=Level 36 |
image=395.png |
name=Empoleon }}
|}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=water|
gen=4|
gender=none|
ndex=394|
name=Prinplup|
}}

==Trivia==
*Oddly, Prinplup can learn {{m|Metal Claw}} despite not having actual claws. It does however have talons that it could claw with.
===Origin===
Prinplup is seemingly based on a {{wp|macaroni penguin}}.
====Name origin====
Its Japanese name is a combination of the words ぽちゃぽちゃ ''pochapocha'', meaning both to splash in water and to have a plump appearance, and 皇太子 ''kōtaishi'', crown prince - in reference to its evolution into an emperor penguin of sorts. Its English name uses the same pun, "prince" and "plup", the sound of hitting the water

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Pliprin
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Prinplouf
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 팽태자 ''Pengtaeja''

==Related articles==
* [[Kenny's Prinplup]]

==External links==
* [[wp:Pottaishi|Wikipedia entry]]

{{Starter Pokémon‎}}

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Piplup | next=Empoleon }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Pokémon that are part of a three-stage evolutionary line]]

[[de:Pliprin]]
[[fr:Prinplouf]]
[[ja:ポッタイシ]]
[[pt:Prinplup (pokémon)]]

User talk:Broloth

2008-07-23T00:57:53Z

Broloth: /* Talk Page Comments */

2008-07-17T21:18:51Z

Broloth:

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Meditite | next=Electrike }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Medicham |
jname=チャーレム |
tmname=Charem |
image=308Medicham.png|size=130|
caption=Artwork from R/S/E |
ndex=308 |
hdex=077 |
fdex=086 |
sdex=087 |
typen=2 |
type1=Fighting |
type2=Psychic |
species=Meditate |
height-ftin=4′03″ |
height-m=1.3 |
weight-lbs=69.4 |
weight-kg=31.5 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Pure Power |
ability2= |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Humanshape |
egggroup2= |
hatchsteps=5,120 |
effortyield=2 Spd |
expyield=153 |
lv100exp=1,000,000 |
gender=both |
female=50 |
male=50 |
color=Red |
catchrate=90 |
body=12 |
pokefordex=medicham |
generation=3 |
footnotes=}}
'''Medicham''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''チャーレム''' ''Charem'') is a dual-type {{2t|Fighting|Psychic}} Pokémon.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
====Gender differences====
The strange growth on top of Medicham's head is shorter on a female.

===Special abilities===
===Behavior===
Medicham do daily {{m2|Meditate|meditation}} to hone their spiritual power. In the process they've gotten psychic powers such as reading people's minds at will. Because they are so focused in meditation, they will often go without food for a whole month or eat only little. They meditate in the wild and are known to use bushes, rocks or anything in nature to hide themselves from humans and other Pokémon. When Medicham are in battle, they'll use dance-like movement to dodge attacks and then attack back fiercely.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Mountain.gif|right|frame|[[List of Pokémon by habitat#Mountain Pokémon|Mountain Pokémon]]]]

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}
It survives on only one berry per month.

==In the anime==
Medicham first appeared during the [[Fallarbor Town]] Contest under the ownership of [[Grace (coordinator)|Grace]] during ''[[AG050|Pros and Con Artists]]'' and ''[[AG051|Come What May]]''.

[[Arena Tycoon Greta]] battled against {{Ash}} with a {{TP|Greta|Medicham}} in ''[[AG149|Wheel of Frontier]]''. The Meditation Pokémon was literally crushed by [[Ash's Snorlax]].

Medicham and its pre-evolution were owned by a family of traveling circus performers in ''[[Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]]''. The two Meditation Pokémon used {{m|Psychic}} to make balls of water retain their form.

A Medicham was a member of [[Team Meanies]] in ''[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Team Go-Getters out of the Gate!]].

==In the manga==
Medicham made a cameo in {{Special|Ruby}}'s Normal Rank Beauty on Verdanturf City

==In the TCG==
{{main|Medicham (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
* [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]: Medicham is a member of [[Team Meanies]]. It attempted to climb [[Wish Cave]] with {{p|Ekans}} but gave up on the twentieth floor and had to be rescued by the player.
* [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2]]: Medicham is one of the members of Team Charm.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=fighting
|gen=3
|rubydex=It is said that through meditation, Medicham heightens energy inside its body and sharpens its sixth sense. This Pokémon hides its presence by merging itself with fields and mountains.
|sapphiredex=Through the power of meditation, Medicham developed a sixth sense. It gained the ability to use psychokinetic powers. This Pokémon is known to {{M|meditate}} for a whole month without eating.
|emeralddex=Through crushingly harsh yoga training, it gained the power to {{m2|Mind Reader|foretell its foe's actions}}. It battles with elegant, dance-like movement.
|firereddex=It elegantly avoids attacks with dance-like steps, then launches a devastating blow in the same motion.
|leafgreendex=It elegantly avoids attacks with dance-like steps, then launches a devastating blow in the same motion.
|diamonddex=Through yoga training, it has honed its sixth sense. Its movements are elegant.
|pearldex=Through daily meditation, it hones its spiritual power. It can sense what others are thinking.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability |
gen=3 |
type=fighting |
rsrarity=Uncommon |
rsarea={{ho|Victory Road}} |
coloarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Meditite}} |
xdarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Meditite}} |
dprarity=Uncommon |
dparea={{rt|217}}, [[Acuity Lakefront]], [[Mt. Coronet]], {{si|Victory Road}} |
palarea=Mountain
}}

====In side games====
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{fighting color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire]]
| Evolve from {{p|Meditite}}
|-
| [[Pokémon Trozei!]]
| Endless Level 16 Endless Level 35 Forever Level 65 Mr. Who's Den
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]
| Evolve from {{p|Meditite}}
|-
| [[Pokémon Ranger]]
| [[Panula Cave]] [[Fiore Temple]]
|}

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats|
HP=60 |
Attack=60 |
Defense=75 |
SpAtk=60 |
SpDef=75 |
Speed=80 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP Type effectiveness|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting= 50 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 50 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

===Learnset===
{{learnset intro|Medicham}}
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|fighting|psychic|4|3|Meditite}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Fire Punch|Fire|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Ice Punch|Ice|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Thunder Punch|Electric|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Bide|Normal|Physical|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Meditate|Psychic|Status|—|—|40|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Confusion|Psychic|Special|50|100|25|Smart|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Detect|Fighting|Status|—|—|5|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|15|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|18|Mind Reader|Normal|Status|—|—|5|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|20|Feint|Normal|Physical|50|100|10|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|25|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|29|Force Palm|Fighting|Physical|60|100|10|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|32|Hi Jump Kick|Fighting|Physical|100|90|20|Cool|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|36|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|42|Power Trick|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|49|Reversal|Fighting|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|55|Recover|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{movelist/note|4}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|Fighting|Psychic|4|3|Meditite}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM01]]|Focus Punch|Fighting|Physical|150|100|20|Tough|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM04]]|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM08]]|Bulk Up|Fighting|Status|—|—|20|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM16]]|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM29]]|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM30]]|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM31]]|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM33]]|Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM39]]|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM52]]|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5|Cool|0||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM53]]|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM56]]|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10|Tough|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM60]]|Drain Punch|Fighting|Physical|60|100|5|Beauty|0||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM67]]|Recycle|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM70]]|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM77]]|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM78]]|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM80]]|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM84]]|Poison Jab|Poison|Physical|80|100|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM85]]|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM86]]|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM04]]|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM06]]|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|Tough|2||'''}}
{{movelist/note|4}}

====By [[breeding]]====
*{{M|Baton Pass}}
*{{M|Bullet Punch}}
*'''{{M|DynamicPunch}}'''
*{{M|Fake Out}}
*{{M|Fire Punch}}
*{{M|Foresight}}
*{{M|Guard Swap}}
*{{M|Ice Punch}}
*{{M|Power Swap}}
*{{M|ThunderPunch}}
*'''{{M|Psycho Cut}}'''

====By tutoring====
====Special moves====

===Side game data===
{{Side game|
type=fighting |
ndex=308 |
PinRSevo=yes |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=Evolve |
area=Mt. Discipline |
P1= The mystical power of nature--that is yoga! |
P2= So swiftly, my health has fallen to half. |
P3= I stand on the brink... This may be my last act of elegance... |
PL= Leveled up! The power of yoga permeates me! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
typeG= Psychic |
typeA= Fighting |
field= Crush x2 |
loop=9 |
MinEXP=52 |
MaxEXP=76 |
browser= Medicham moves as if it were dancing. The impact of its kicks is astounding. |
}}

===Evolution===
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Basic |
image=307.png |
name=Meditite }}
|
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Level 37 |
image=308.png |
name=Medicham }}
|}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=fighting|
gen=3|
gender=both|
ndex=308|
name=Medicham|
}}

==Trivia==
*[[Jupiter]]'s appearance bears resemblance to Medicham.

===Origin===
It appears to have been based on a practitioner of {{wp|yoga}}. It could also be based off of the Street Fighter Character Chun Li.

====Name origin====
Medicham's name may be a combination of ''meditate'' and ''champion''. Its Japanese name may be based on ''charm''.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Meditalis
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Charmina
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 요가램 ''Yogarem''

==Related articles==
*[[Greta's Medicham]]

==External links==

*[[wp:Medicham|Article on Wikipedia]]

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Meditite | next=Electrike }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[de:Meditalis]]
[[Category:Pokémon that are part of a two-stage evolutionary line]]

[[fr:Charmina]]
[[ja:チャーレム]]
[[pt:Medicham (pokémon)]]

J

2008-07-14T04:23:27Z

Broloth:

{{CharacterInfobox|
name=J |
jname=ポケモンハンターJ |
tmname=Pokémon Hunter J |
slogan=no |
image=[[Image:PokemonHunterJ.jpg]] |
caption=J and her Salamence |
gender=Female |
colors=yes |
eyes=Blue |
hair=Silver |
hometown=Unknown |
region=Unknown |
relatives=Unknown |
trainer=no |
game=no |
leader=no |
team=no |
brain=no |
anime=yes |
epnum=DP020 |
epname=Mutiny in the Bounty |
enva=[[Sonny Dey]]|
java=[[Takako Honda]]|
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'''J''' (Japanese: '''ポケモンハンターJ''' ''Pokémon Hunter J'') is a [[Pokémon Hunter]] who, with the help from [[J's henchmen|her henchmen]], steals [[Pokémon trainer|trainers]]' [[Pokémon]] and sells the Pokémon requested by her clients for a profit. She first appeared in [[DP020|''Mutiny in the Bounty'']]. Her Japanese voice actress is 本田貴子 ''[[Takako Honda]]'' and her English voice actress is [[Sonny Dey]].

==In the anime==
===Character===
Using a special bracelet, she can turn Pokémon into stone before they can fight back and imprison them in jars.

In ''[[DP020|Mutiny in the Bounty]]'', she first stole [[Melodi]]'s {{p|Gardevoir}}. Thinking [[Ash Ketchum|Ash's]] {{AP|Pikachu}} and [[Team Rocket|Team Rocket's]] {{MTR}} would be worth a lot, she stole them, too, thus forcing Ash to join forces with [[Jessie]] and [[James]] to rescue them. Following a brief confrontation with J, they managed to sneak into J's airborne base and rescue their Pokémon and all others she had stolen, before returning them to their rightful trainers. Though several of her henchmen have been captured by [[Officer Jenny]], J remains still at large. Jessie, James and Meowth especially seem to harbor a grudge against her ever since she Pokénapped Meowth.

In [[DP036|''A Secret Sphere of Influence'']], the [[Eterna City]] Officer Jenny guessed that J commissioned Team Rocket to steal the Adamant Orb, but the the people responsible were [[Team Galactic]].

J appeared again in ''[[DP045|Ill-Will Hunting!]]''. This time, she was on a mission to steal a group of {{p|Shieldon}}, but was foiled by Ash and [[Ash's friends|his friends]], with the help from [[Gary Oak]]. Her employer cut off the deal to obtain a Shieldon when Officer Jenny is near. After telling Ash and Co. not to get in her way next time, she tells her second in command to establish radio contact with their employer that they will not be doing any service with him again.

She appeared again during the two-part episode [[DP071]] and [[DP072]].

===Pokémon===
This listing is of J's Pokémon as of ''[[DP045|Ill-Will Hunting!]]'':

====On hand====

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| align=center | [[Image:452.png]] [[J's Drapion|Drapion]]
| align=center | [[Image:168.png]] {{p|Ariados}}
| align=center | [[Image:373.png]] {{p|Salamence}}
|}

===Technology===
====Weaponry====
[[Image:J's gun.JPG|left|150px|thumb|J's bracelet about to fire.]][[Image:Gold Shieldon.JPG|right|thumb|150px|A Shieldon that was transformed by J's bracelet]]
J has a bracelet that shoots out a beam of light directly to a Pokémon. The Pokémon then glows white and is turned into stone. When they're stone, J puts them into special cages that have the ability to control how covered in gold a Pokémon is.

[[Image:J's glasses.PNG|left|thumb|230px||J using her goggles]][[Image:J's car.PNG|right|thumb|J's vehicle]]

====Gadgets====
Her goggles also have many abilities, like predicting where a Pokémon using {{m|Teleport}} will appear.

====Transportation====
She also has six-wheeled cars driven by her henchmen that can shoot out nets and have retractable arms.

She also travels through the Pokémon world in an airship, which also serves as her hideout.

==Trivia==
* J bears a resemblance to [[Wes]] from [[Pokémon Colosseum]]
* J also bears a resmblance to the Demon Hunters from the Warcraft series, as it looks like her goggles are a blindfold.
*Her name may be a reference to Vampire Hunter D, the title character of a series of novels by Japanese horror and pulp author Hideyuki Kikuchi of the same name.
*J actually seems as if she is trying to ''kill'' Ash, not merely get rid of him. This was shown in [[DP072]] when she commanding her Salamence to use {{m|Hyper Beam}} directly on him instead of near him, having her Drapion squeeze him tight with its claws, and ejecting him from her ship at a great height.

==External links==
*[http://pokeani.com/chara/s-hunter_j.html Hunter J's Profile] on [[Pokeani]] (Japanese)

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