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User:Booker

2009-12-14T07:33:34Z

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Talk:Newmoon Island

2009-12-08T13:28:28Z

Booker: /* Voice? */

Is there any specific reason that Newmoon island is represented with a full moon or that Fullmoon Island is represented by a crescent moon? [[User:Englishtoffee|Englishtoffee]] 08:24, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

== Are you sure that it's Arceus? ==

Look, was it ever stated officially, in game that the "Booming Voice" telling the story of Cresselia, Newmoon and Fullmoon Island, and Darkrai was actually Arceus speaking? I mean, aside from Serebii.net, which is somewhat of a fansite, I don't think I've heard of anything else pointing to it. Heck, for all we know, that could have just as easily been Darkrai talking! [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 12:03, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
:But this happens after Darkrai was defeated/captured. I don't know if it can speak through Pokeballs, and if it were unconscious, it certainly wouldn't be in any fit condition to talk, let alone in a booming voice. I know one possible way to find out: Hack the Arceus event and catch it, THEN catch Darkrai. See what that changes, if anything. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]]. See my new and improved user page, and [[User talk:Missingno. Master|comment on it!]] 12:18, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
::That would prove nothing. I say we just remove the link. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 12:35, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

== Darkrai can be caught without a Nintendo Event! ==
This article very directly says that Darkrai cannot be caught unless the player attends a Nintendo Event. This is not true, as I just figured out today. Browsing around on YouTube, I found a video (found [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRKPj4tcybE here!]) that goes into intricate detail on how to catch this sucker without any external cheating device (Action Replay or GameShark) or Nintendo Event. Now I don't know exactly how far into the game one must be for this to be done, but within an hour or so of learning how to [[Tweaking|tweak]], I was able to add Darkrai to my collection. [[User:ScootrNova|ScootrNova]] 00:27, 16 April 2009 (CST)
:It's the same method basically as using a walk-through-walks code to get the to the event Darkrai at Newmoon. *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 05:36, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
::lol, good video. But glitches do not count. Its the same for a lot of locations.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 05:43, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

== Voice? ==

I just battled darkrai in Pt with the MC event just after i gave the boy the lunar wing and managed to faint it accient and then this voice starts talking, so why is there no reference to it here? also it knows faint attack on Pt instead of pursuit so I`ll change that. [[User:Booker|Booker :)]] 13:28, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Newmoon Island

2009-12-08T13:26:42Z

Booker: /* Voice? */ new section

Talk:Nintendo DSi XL

2009-12-04T11:05:24Z

Booker: Created page with '==camera and price?== is it still the p*ss small 0.3 pixels? and is the cost more or equal to the 1st dsi? ~~~~'

==camera and price?==
is it still the p*ss small 0.3 pixels?
and is the cost more or equal to the 1st dsi?
[[User:Booker|Booker :)]] 11:05, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon Stadium 2

2009-12-02T04:36:40Z

Booker: /* Shinies in minigames? */ new section

Does anyone knows Vince and Gloria's names in japanese? I know it seems kind of a stupidquestion, but I'm curious to know. -- [[User:Luke|Luke]], 14 May 2006

There were three Stadium games in Japan, and this particular game was number two. How are we handling this? --[[User:Argy|Argy]] 02:45, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

:Is that so? I thought this article was about the third Japanese game. Hmmmmm. Yes, this will have to be dealt with. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 03:50, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

::Sorry, I must not have been paying complete attention. You are correct- this is the third Japanese game. --[[User:Argy|Argy]] 05:44, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

I just threw in a load of various important details that were missing. It's not extensive - most of it is the basics and there ought to be a section to cover the custom rules - but it's a start. I figure someone who can "wield the system" better than I can could pick it up from here. [[User:Rambo M|Rambo M]] 23:36, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

== Three Stadiums ==

I don't know what to do but there are 3 Stadiums in Japan. American Pokemon Stadium 2 is named Pocket Monsters Stadium KinGin (GoldSilver) in Japan, American Pokemon Stadium "1" is named Pocket Monsters Stadium 2 and Japanese Pocket Monsters Stadium "1" is a completely different game, older and Japanese-only. So, what to do. We must have an article about it! But what to name the Article? Maybe [[Pokemon Stadium (Japanese)]]?
:Sounds like the best idea to me. Just make sure you remember the é. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 22:05, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

== Pokédex Lists ==

I don't know if this should go here, but...

Is it really necessary to list the Pokédex entries from Pokémon Stadium 2 on the Pokémon articles? They're all the same as in Pokémon Gold. [[User:Inker|Inker]] 04:39, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
:Well, most Johto Pokémon get their GS Pokédex entries reused in FRLG. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:50, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
::Um, you people know that if you look at the Pokédex with a Gold cartridge inserted, it has Silver entries instead? [[User:Blaziken257|Blaziken257]] 02:27, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

== Female playable character? ==

Is the [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/1/1a/Playergirl.png female] playable character that replaces Red(wait..Isn't that Ritchie so...) if you enter a Crystal cart. with Kris as the protagonist,notable enough to be put in the trivia section? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 21:03, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

== Shinies in minigames? ==

I just had a thought, with seeing the old sprites, that you know when you had a g/s game in the minigames would use your Pokemon (sometimes?)
well does it go with the shiny sprites too? I don't think i would but just to make sure :) [[User:Booker|Booker :)]] 04:36, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Ekans (Pokémon)

2009-12-02T04:21:08Z

Booker:

{{PokémonPrevNext | type=poison | prevnum=022 | nextnum=024 | prev=Fearow | next=Arbok }}
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size$=130px |
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weight-lbs$=15.2 |
weight-kg$=6.9 |
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eggcycles$=20 |
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'''Ekans''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''アーボ''' ''Arbo'') is a {{type2|Poison}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolve]]s into {{p|Arbok}} starting at [[level]] 22.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
This reptilian Pokémon resembles a snake (its English name even being the word "snake" spelled backward while other languages use an anagram of the word "boa"). It has a rattle at the tip of its tail, and is mostly purple while its underbelly, eyes, rattle, and the "bands" on it are yellow.
====Gender differences====
None.

====Special abilities====
Ekans are able to detach their jaws to {{m|swallow}} large prey whole, although this makes their bodies heavy. It can also use its tongue to sense danger, and can move quietly through the grass.

===Behavior===
Like actual snakes, Ekans will lash out with a {{m|bite}} when frightened by anything it sees as a threat. If one happens to be bitten by a young Ekans, they are lucky. As an Ekans, it doesn't possess the ability to add poison to its bite until after it evolves into an Arbok, though this last bit of information clashes with Ekans's dungeon phrase.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Grassland.gif|right|frame|{{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Grassland Pokémon}}]]
Ekans live in grassy savannas and plains.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}
Ekans' favorite food is eggs from {{p|Pidgey}} and {{p|Spearow}} nests.

==In the anime==
[[Image:Jessie's Ekans.JPG|right|thumb|210px|Jessie's Ekans]]
===Major appearances===
Ekans was part of "Team Meanies" in ''[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Team Go-Getters out of the Gate!]]'' Special. {{p|Gengar}} commanded the Poisonous Snake Pokémon to eat all the berries Team Go-Getters collected. At one point, Ekans was incorrectly referred to as Arbok by Gengar. While this was an intentional error that Ekans rebuked in the original version (due to the similarities in the Japanese names), this came across as a general mistake in the dub and was corrected in reairings of the episode.

====[[Jessie's Arbok|Jessie's Ekans]]====
[[Jessie]] had an Ekans, which for most of the [[original series]], was her only Pokémon. It was extremely loyal to her and eventually evolved into an {{p|Arbok}} just to make her happy.

====Other====
[[Rico|A poacher]] had captured a bunch of Ekans in [[AG006]].

Ekans made a cameo appearance in [[DP006]].

==In the manga==
[[Koga]] has an Ekans in [[Pokémon Adventures]].

A twin pair of Ekans are antagonists in [[Magical Pokémon Journey]].

==In the TCG==
{{main|Ekans (TCG)}}

==In the TFG==
One Ekans figure has been released.

* {{TFG|Next Quest}}: {{TFG ID|Next Quest|Ekans|28}}

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
* [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 1|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]: Ekans is a member of [[Team Meanies]]. It attempted to climb [[Wish Cave]] with {{p|Medicham}} but collapsed on the first floor.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|gen=1
|type=poison
|redbluedex=Moves silently and stealthily. Eats the eggs of birds, such as {{p|Pidgey}} and {{p|Spearow}}, whole.
|yellowdex=The older it gets, the longer it grows. At night, it wraps its long body around tree branches to rest.
|stadiumdex=Slithers silently through grass, searching for its favorite food--Pidgey and Spearow eggs.
|golddex=It can freely detach its jaw to swallow large prey whole. It can become too heavy to move, however.
|silverdex=It always hides in grass. When first born, it has no poison, so its {{m|bite}} is painful, but harmless.
|crystaldex=It flutters the tip of its tongue to seek out the scent of prey, then swallows the prey whole.
|stadium2dex=It can freely detach its jaw to swallow large prey whole. It can become too heavy to move, however.
|rubydex=Ekans curls itself up in a spiral while it rests. Assuming this position allows it to quickly respond to a threat from any direction with a glare from its upraised head.
|sapphiredex=Ekans curls itself up in a spiral while it rests. Assuming this position allows it to quickly respond to a threat from any direction with a glare from its upraised head.
|emeralddex=An Ekans curls itself up in a spiral while it rests. This position allows it to quickly respond to an enemy from any direction with a threat from its upraised head.
|firereddex=A very common sight in grassland, etc. It flicks its tongue in and out to sense danger in its surroundings.
|leafgreendex=Moving silently and stealthily, it eats the eggs of birds, such as Pidgey and Spearow, whole.
|diamonddex=It sneaks through grass without making a sound and strikes unsuspecting prey from behind.
|pearldex=It sneaks through grass without making a sound and strikes unsuspecting prey from behind.
|platinumdex=It sneaks through grass without making a sound and strikes unsuspecting prey from behind.
|heartgolddex=It can freely detach its jaw to swallow large prey whole. It can become too heavy to move, however.
|soulsilverdex=It always hides in grass. When first born, it has no poison, so its bite is painful, but harmless.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=poison |
gen=1 |
rbrarity=Few |
rbarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|4}}, {{rtn|11}}, and {{rtn|23}} |
gen1ex=red|
gsrarity=Unlimited (Gold) Few (Silver) |
gsarea=[[Goldenrod Game Corner]] (Gold) [[Route]]s {{rtn|3}}, {{rtn|4}}, {{rtn|32}}, and {{rtn|33}} (Silver) |
crarity=Few |
carea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|3}}, {{rtn|4}}, {{rtn|32}}, {{rtn|33}}, and {{rtn|42}}, {{m|Headbutt}}ing trees |
gen3ex=frlg |
frlgrarity=Common |
frlgarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|4}}, {{rtn|8}}, {{rtn|9}}, {{rtn|10}}, {{rtn|11}} and {{rtn|23}} |
frlgex=firered|
dprarity=Dongle |
dparea=[[Route 212]] |
dongledp=FireRed|
ptrarity=Dongle |
ptarea=[[Route 212]] |
donglept=FireRed |
palarea=Forest |
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=poison
|trozei=Huge Storage 4 Endless Level 51 Pair Trozei Mr. Who's Den
|md=[[Western Cave]] (3F-5F)
|ranger=[[Olive Jungle]]
|md2=[[Shimmer Desert]] (1F-9F)
|scramble=[[Gravel Cave]]
}}

===Held items===
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" align="center"
|- style="background: #{{poison color}};"
! Game
! Items
|-
| {{3v2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}
| [[Berry]] ([[Time Capsule|trade]] from [[Generation I]])
|}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats with RBY|
HP= 35 |
Attack= 60 |
Defense=44 |
SpAtk= 40 |
SpDef= 54 |
Special=40 |
Speed= 55 |
type=Poison }}

====Pokéthlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Poison
|Speed=3
|SpeedMax=5
|Power=3
|PowerMax=4
|Technique=3
|TechniqueMax=3
|Stamina=2
|StaminaMax=3
|Jump=2
|JumpMax=3
}}

===Type effectiveness===

{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=poison |
Normal= 100 |
Fighting= 50 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 50 |
Ground= 200 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 200 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |

notes=yes|
gen1poison=yes|
oldgrass=½|
oldbug=2}}

===Learnset===
{{learnset intro|Ekans}}
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|poison|poison|4|1|Ekans}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Wrap|Normal|Physical|15|85|20|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Leer|Normal|Status|—|100|30|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|4|Poison Sting|Poison|Physical|15|100|35|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|9|Bite|Dark|Physical|60|100|25|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|12|Glare|Normal|Status|—|75|30|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|17|Screech|Normal|Status|—|85|40|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|20|Acid|Poison|Special|40|100|30|Smart|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|25|Stockpile|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|25|Swallow|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|25|Spit Up|Normal|Special|—|100|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|28|Mud Bomb|Ground|Special|65|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|33|Gastro Acid|Poison|Status|—|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|36|Haze|Ice|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|41|Gunk Shot|Poison|Physical|120|70|5|Cool|3||'''}}
{{movelist/note|3|poison}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|poison|poison|4|1|Ekans}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM19]]|Giga Drain|Grass|Special|60|100|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM20]]|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM23]]|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM26]]|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM28]]|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM36]]|Sludge Bomb|Poison|Special|90|100|10|Tough|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM39]]|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM41]]|Torment|Dark|Status|—|100|15|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM46]]|Thief|Dark|Physical|40|100|10|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM49]]|Snatch|Dark|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM66]]|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10|Cool|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM78]]|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM79]]|Dark Pulse|Dark|Special|80|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM80]]|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM84]]|Poison Jab|Poison|Physical|80|100|20|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM04]]|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{movelist/note|4|poison}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{eggmoves|poison|poison|4|1|Ekans}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Sneasel}}, {{p|Weavile}} {{p|Houndour}}, {{p|Houndoom}}|Beat Up|Dark|Physical|10|100|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Psyduck}}, {{p|Golduck}}|Disable|Normal|Status|—|80|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Seviper}}|Poison Fang|Poison|Physical|50|100|15|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Seviper}}|Poison Tail|Poison|Physical|50|100|25|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Rattata}}, {{p|Raticate}} {{p|Tauros}} {{p|Umbreon}} {{p|Dunsparce}} {{p|Treecko}}, {{p|Grovyle}}, {{p|Sceptile}} {{p|Zangoose}} {{p|Absol}} {{p|Buizel}}, {{p|Floatzel}}|Pursuit|Dark|Physical|40|100|20|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Charmander}}, {{p|Charmeleon}} {{P|Charizard}} {{p|Raticate}} {{p|Rhyhorn}}, {{p|Rhydon}}, {{p|Rhyperior}} {{p|Tauros}} {{p|Flareon}} {{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}} {{p|Ursaring}} {{p|Donphan}} {{p|Poochyena}}, {{p|Mightyena}} {{p|Bagon}}, {{p|Shelgon}}, {{p|Salamence}} {{p|Shinx}}, {{p|Luxio}}, {{p|Luxray}} {{p|Mamoswine}}|Scary Face|Normal|Status|—|90|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}} {{p|Dratini}}, {{p|Dragonair}}, {{p|Dragonite}} {{p|Sentret}}, {{p|Furret}} {{p|Wooper}}, {{p|Quagsire}} {{p|Phanpy}}, {{p|Donphan}} {{p|Treecko}}, {{p|Grovyle}}, {{p|Sceptile}}|Slam|Normal|Physical|80|75|20|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Dunsparce}}|Spite|Ghost|Status|—|100|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Persian}} {{P|Linoone}}|Switcheroo|Dark|Status|—|100|10|Cool|0|||HGSS}}
{{eggmoves/note|4|poison}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|poison|poison|4|1|Ekans}}
{{mtentry4|Aqua Tail|Water|Physical|90|90|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Gastro Acid|Poison|Status|—|100|10|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Gunk Shot|Poison|Physical|120|70|5|Cool|3||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Headbutt|Normal|Physical|70|100|15|Tough|3|||no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Seed Bomb|Grass|Physical|80|100|15|Smart|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Spite|Ghost|Status|—|100|10|Tough|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4|poison}}

===={{Trading Card Game}}-only moves====
*{{m|Bind}} {{ic|Normal}}

===Side game data===
{{Side game|
type=poison |
ndex=023 |
Pincatch=yes |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Common |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=12.4% |
area=Wild Plains |
P1=The poison in my fangs is wicked! |
P2=My HP's gone down to half. |
P3=Help... I'm running out of poison... |
PL=Yesss! I leveled up! I'll do my best! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
typeG=Poison |
typeA=Poison |
fieldpower=0 |
field=None |
loop=5 |
MinEXP=28 |
MaxEXP=42 |
browser=If it spots a Capture Disc, Ekans will slither straight toward it. |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=0.5% |
iq=C |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|family=Normal
|sprite1=023
|name1=Ekans
|type1-1=Poison
|evotype1=Level
|level1=22
|sprite2=024
|name2=Arbok
|type1-2=Poison}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=poison|
gen=1|
gender=none|
ndex=023|
name=Ekans|
}}

==Trivia==
*Ekans was originally going to use its Japanese name as its English name, "Arbo".
*In ''[[The Power of One]]'', it is shown that Ekans can swim, though to date it has never been able to learn {{m|Surf}}.
**Strangely, even though Ekans was shown swimming, its evolution was seen with all the other Pokémon that were "stuck on land and unable to do a thing."
*An Ekans was originally going to be featured in [[Pokémon Snap]], shown in an early test shot of an environment that was never featured in the final product. This is also true of its evolution, Arbok.
*Ekans is the only Pokémon that can learn {{m|Poison Tail}} through breeding.
*Ekans is one of fourteen Pokémon that one could collect [[Meister (Sinnoh)|foreign Pokédex entries]] for in {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}.
*The line in front of Ekans's eyes, which curve to meet the other eye, when seen from above, looks like the pattern of the {{wp|Spectacled Cobra}}.
*Ekans is the first pure {{t|Poison}} Pokémon in the National Dex order, though {{p|Bulbasaur}}'s and {{p|Weedle}}'s evolutionary lines, which are secondarily Poison, come before it.
===Origin===
It appears to be based upon a boa and {{wp|rattlesnake}}.
====Name origin====
Ekans's name is ''snake'' spelled backwards. ''Arbo'' is either ''{{wp|cobra}}'' spelled backwards with the ''c'' removed, or a corruption of ''{{wp|boa}}'' spelled backwards.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Rettan - ''Natter'' ({{wp|colubrid}}) spelled backwards.
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Abo - Most likely an anagram of ''boa''.
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 아보 ''Abo''
*[[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese (Taiwan and Hong Kong)]]: 阿柏蛇 ''Á Bó Shí'' - Transliteration of Ekans's Japanese name, Arbo. The last character, 蛇, means snake.

==Related articles==
* [[Jessie's Arbok|Jessie's Arbok]]

==External links==

==Notes==
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Talk:Event item

2009-11-27T08:34:58Z

Booker: Created page with ''''this key item can only be used when the event to capture {{p|Cresselia}} has been completed. After getting it, the locked house in Canalave City will open''', umm is thi…'

'''this key item can only be used when the event to capture {{p|Cresselia}} has been completed. After getting it, the locked house in [[Canalave City]] will open''',

umm is this true cause I got the {{p|Darkrai}} before getting {{p|Cresselia}} in Pt? although it was through action replay *shot* [[User:Booker|Booker :)]] 08:34, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky

2009-11-04T00:31:49Z

Booker: /* Australian Realease */

So is this truly MD3, as a sequel to MD2, or is it MD2.5, as a third version to EOT and EOD? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:58, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

:Officially PMD3, it's the sequel (or third version, I suppose) to PMD2, carrying the story on where PMD2 left it. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 09:10, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::I don't think we can be sure exactly what this game is yet. Dogasu's already calling it the Platinum to MD2. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 16:02, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
::: Unown Lord said the official website also said the same thing. It's Pokemon Mystery Dungeon 2 with new quests and starter Pokémon, but it retains all of the plot, content, and things from Time and Darkness. Considering that, we should probably move this page to something that doesn't say Mystery Dungeon 3. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 19:08, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

:Agree. This should be the third version of PMD2. Since its plot is the same.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 14:24, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
::OBJECTION! Clearly, this contradicts that fact that the plot is, in fact, NOT the same. *taps papers* If you recall, Herr Billy, Grovyle and Dusknoir were seen SURROUNDED BE SABLEYE! That is not in the plot of the original PMD2 games! *plays Pursuit - Cornered (Orchestra)* This is a clear contradiction in the witness testimony! Obviously, this game is a direct sequel to the other two PMD2 games! '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 15:21, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

:: Even with a modified plot/story, it isn't to be understood as a third installment of the Dungeon series - it's still just a third part of PMD2. o.o I'm for moving it to something that doesn't contain "Dungeon 3" as well. --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 23:37, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

:: Seriously, this can't stay "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 3". It's not a third installment of the series, it's a third version of the second installment. Regardless of whether it would be "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky" or something else, it '''can't''' stay "Dungeon '''3'''". Though I really don't see a problem with "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky" since, the movie articles have [[Arceus:_To_a_Conquering_Spacetime|translated titles]] as well and a redirect would exist for those who try to find "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 3". o.o --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 03:36, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I'm guessing you haven't read the other conversations. The page is protected, and we can't do anything about the title or even update the information on the page. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 18:51, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

:::: You're right, I didn't notice the other discussion. Sorry. Kinda strange to have two of them on one talk page. o.o The fact that the page is protected isn't relevant though. It's better than having people moving it back and froth all the time. --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 03:33, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
::::: I unprotected it and moved it back to it's correct name. I also corrected the names of the pages for the other games in the series, since NONE of them have sequential numbers in their name. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 05:31, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

==Starter==
I don't get this line : "Every starter Pokémon from the previous games can now be a partner as well, bringing the total of starting Pokémon to 21, only 19 of which are available to the player, since Meowth and Munchlax can only be selected as partners." What does it mean? You can't pick Munchlax and Meowth as the playing character? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Happizelpom}} ([[User talk:Happizelpom|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|contribs]]){{ #if: 23:57, 20 January 2009 | 23:57, 20 January 2009 |}}''
:Nope. Check the [[starter Pokémon]] page. - '''[[User talk:EspeonA|esp]][[Special:Contributions/EspeonA|eon]][[User:EspeonA|A]]''' 00:00, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

== Riolu! ==

OK, I swear I put up a line on pic. 1 saying Riolu was the leader of the squad. If the deleter responds, if you remember this, could you please recall exactly what the f***ing h*** I said? [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] 03:38, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:Watch the language, please. It's in the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Mystery_Dungeon_3&action=history page history], you can go and look yourself. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 04:14, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah, sorry. Anyways, if you're the deleter, why is it deleted? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Giratina's Embodiment}} ([[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Giratina's Embodiment|contribs]]){{ #if: 20:40, 24 January 2009 | 20:40, 24 January 2009 |}}''
::Check the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Mystery_Dungeon_3&action=history page history] to see for yourself who deleted it and why it was deleted. [[Special:Contributions/EspeonA|—]] '''[[User talk:EspeonA|e]][[User:EspeonA|A]]''' 20:42, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I did the deletion. I deleted it since I see no need for it to be mentioned, what the caption says is already enough. If I recall, you said that "Riolu ''seems'' to be a leader in this squad, seen holding a Rescue Badge" and the word "seems" don't belong in any article on the mainspace. --☆'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 02:07, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

== Release date confirmed ==

April 18th, 2009--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 12:42, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:From? --×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 12:49, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::Serebii confirmed it on his front page with another CoroCoro scan. The box art was revealed as well. [[User:Ryuartyi|Ryuartyi]] 13:04, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Ahh. The page is protected, so an admin must be the one to add the info. ×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 13:15, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Confirmed also by bluesky, and boxart revealed.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 18:17, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

== Image... ==

Do you like? [[Image:EOS.PNG]] It's from Serebii. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:54, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:I'd say logo for now, and let's wait for an official box art image.×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 02:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::And a clearer one too.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 02:12, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

== Game Site Updated ==

Pokémon.co.jp was just updated with [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/dungeon_sora/], showing a bunch of story information and other general info. [[User:Ryuartyi|Ryuartyi]] 03:57, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

It shows that a Skymin will be involved in the story. *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 09:23, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:Plus there's a story that happened in the past, where {{OBP|Wigglytuff|Mystery Dungeon 2 character}} as an {{p|Igglybuff}} is involved. --×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 09:30, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

== Add ==

Could anyone add this: [[Image:Pmd sky giratina.png]] *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 09:35, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:I'm sure someone could. You could. But, um, .png format is preferred. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:42, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::protected *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 09:43, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:::D'oh. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 10:25, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

== REAL FREAKIN' TITLE ==

THE REAL TITLE OF THE GAME IS '''Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky''' (and it's not the "third series", it's actually the third version of Darkness/Time!) Can someone with powers move the article? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 11:09, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:This is quiet true. We need an admin to change the title.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 12:30, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::I agree with the witness's statement. I see no "san" in the title. It is a third version, for sure. I demand that an admin move it to the correct title, or else be placed in contempt of court. '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 12:33, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

:::Yeah. Besides, they're EXACTLY THE SAME except for the side-quests and starters. Someone needs to put sidequest info in! If this is a sequel to PMD2, (which it isn't) then Emerald must be a sequel to Ruby/Sapphire! [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 18:18, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::::But they didn't move {{g|Mystery Dungeon}} into Pokémon Mystery Dungeon:Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team and {{g|Mystery Dungeon 2}} into Pokémon Mystery Dungeon:Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness. ×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 04:01, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Which leaves us with a quandry. What do we call this page? 3 doesn't fit, as it's not a sequel to 2. Explorers of Sky doesn't fit, as that's not analogous to the other pages. Ideas? --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 01:26, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

::::::What about Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2.5? [[User:0 Degrees|0]][[User talk:0 Degrees|°]] 01:33, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::That rankles me, personally. I hate calling anything "n.5" unless it's referred to as such officially. Another idea would be to move the other pages to more standard titles, but then that begs the question as to why they're not at those titles in the first place... --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 01:36, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:Merge to MD2 and make special mention of the third version? Treat it like r/b/y, r/s/e, etc.? (Although that still has the analogousness issue) [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|10% Satisfaction Guaranteed!]] 01:39, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah, just treat it like a third version to the first two, like Emerald is to Ruby and Sapphire. It's not exactly a sequel, since it has the same storyline, just extended. Though that doesn't really work out the title issue... '''~ overgrown'''[[User:Sol|s]][[User_talk:Sol|o]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|l]] 02:05, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:::We should stick to official titles instead of numbers, IMO. It's like referring to The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past as "The Legend of Zelda 3"; it sort of is, sequentially, but not officially. If we don't want to have an awfully long name ("Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness", like [[wp:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|Wikipedia does it]]), I'd think we should just simplify it like this: "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Darkness". Same would apply to PMD1. '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 02:27, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::::It's been moved to "Explorers of Time and Darkness" before, but it was disagreed upon because it's not one game, but two separate games, and since Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness is too long... '''~ overgrown'''[[User:Sol|s]][[User_talk:Sol|o]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|l]] 02:29, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Too long as in, MediaWiki can't handle titles of that length? Or too long as in, people thought it looked too long? --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 03:26, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::It's too long to type in the Search bar. [[User:Haruka uzumaki|Trust me, there have been users with a 100+ character subpage before]].'''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 11:47, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::That's the use of redirects. (But I don't support the title change.) --×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 11:55, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I agree with Kevzo8.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 12:48, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:I support Pocket Monsters Mystery Dungeon 2: Explorers of the Sky. '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 13:52, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::I don't care what you all decide it should be called, the whole thing needs to be updated. I mean, heck, even Wikipedia has it updated right for once. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 02:29, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

::: I've been not very active for a while and am not sure about this. How exactly do we come to an agreement for a title? I mean, I could do a move to "Pocket Monsters Mystery Dungeon 2: Explorers of the Sky", but that makes no sense as long as others disagree, especially other sysops. o.o" If this is relevant to the Time/Darkness article title as well, maybe someone from the Editorial Board should join the discussion? --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 03:33, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
::::I'm against a merge because that's not how we treat the main-series games. But nYoo's idea has some merit. We should stick {{template|search}} tags at the top of each page, but I think it'd work. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 23:39, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Really, MD2 should be at Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Darkness like the Gen III main games are at Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions, and MD1 at Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red and Blue Rescue Team. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:12, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
As the one who started this page I named this after the pattern of the other articles. Also I wasn't aware this would be an extension of the second games' story. If I still could, I'd move it to [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky]]. [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 04:31, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
== Sunday title. ==

Copied from Filb: In der heutigen Folge 226 der wöchentlichen japanischen TV-Sendung wurde erstmals der neue Pokémon-Mystery-Dungeon-Titel ポケモン不思議のダンジョン空の探検隊 Pokémon Fushigi no Dungeon: Sora no Tankentai, über den wir gestern ausführlich berichteten, erstmals live angespielt.

For those who don't understand German, it basically says, minus some unessecary talking: In EP 226 (Of Pokémon Sunday) a new title ポケモン不思議のダンジョン空の探検隊 Pokémon Fushigi no Dungeon: Sora no Tankentai, which we (Filb) reported yesterday, was referenced.

Understanding no Japanese, I ask if the title differs from the one we currently have. Sunday also apparently talked about some gameplay elements, and debuted Arceus on TV, but given that the release date is still a while yet, they could still be beta. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 16:02, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

: Ah, you misunderstood. It doesn't say anything about a new title for the game. "der neue Pokémon-Mystery-Dungeon-Titel XYZ [...]" = "the new title of the Mystery Dungeon series, XYZ, [...]", as in the new entry or game or whatever. --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 12:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:: booooo [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 02:14, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

== Wigglytuff's Back Story ==

Now that it's been proven that the Igglybuff in the pictures is Wigglytuff, shouldn't we say he is in the main article. along with that why aren't I allowed to edit the page? {{unsigned|TeamMegaraptor}}
:You aren't allowed to edit the page because it has been locked by the administrators. I do think it should be worth a tiny mention, but we still don't know a lot of information. It will probably be added once the game releases in Japan. [[User:Ryuartyi|Ryuartyi]] 03:17, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
::Well, it's most likely protected so people don't edit it, and then have to change incorrect info. Like how Platinum is protected for that reason. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 03:44, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

== Mystery Dungeon 3 Special ==

Serebii updated with news from Pokéani that there will be a PMD3 special airing on April 12th. I'd start the page, but I'm clueless how to start a special episode page. [[User:Ryuartyi|Ryuartyi]] 01:04, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
:That's fine. It'll be up eventually. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:16, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

== Add Arceus ==

Could someone upload this: [[Image:Pmd_sky_arceus.png]] [[User:AlienX2008|☆AlienX2008☆]]
:Nope. The page is protected. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:23, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

== Serebii.net just got more news on the game! ==

Hi everybody. I just wanted to let you know that over the past couple of days, Serebii.net got more information on the game. Would someone that has permission to edit the article go to Serebii and put the new information about the game on this page please? Also, do the guy a favor who commented above, add the picture of Arceus (it looks cool). Thank You --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 23:31, 13 March 2009 (UTC)Dialgafan1
:Um... yeah. You guys haven't read anything that was already said. We aren't adding anything untill it actually comes out. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 01:20, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

== Update? ==

Is anyone going to update this page?

I would do it myself but I don't know all proper formatting and stuff.[[User:Hyperdudeman|Hyperdudeman]] 00:28, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:Give it a go. If it's wrong, we'll let you know and fix it up. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 00:47, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

== A few questions ==

Does this game still use the same "portraits" we use for the PMD2 side-game sprites? Is Arceus actually available in the game or is there just the statue? Are all of Rotom's forms in this game?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:20, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:Most likely. Statue only. I don't think so. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:40, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

== Release date ==

'''N. America - ''October 12, 2009''' Eh? Where did it say this? [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 05:17, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
:I've asked the adder of the information to explain himself, and I have taken it out of the article for the time being. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 11:35, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
::I closed the window and not finding it again.
::hope that I would have been right (though my grammar might be wrong)--[[User:Tobytse99|tobytse]] 14:31, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
:::[http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=176075 fan spec.]--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']]* [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]'''at 22:22, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Oh, I see...
::::My fault...--[[User:Tobytse99|tobytse]] 13:43, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::This work? [http://kotaku.com/5325436/a-bit-more-pokemon-mystery-dungeon-coming-in-october http://kotaku.com/5325436/a-bit-more-pokemon-mystery-dungeon-coming-in-october] [[User:Ampere|Ampere]] 19:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

==The Storylines==
I know the storylines to the special episodes after revising them about 22 times. I can't exactly read what's being said properly, but I can easily give the main outline and put it on the page.
WARNING: IT WILL CONTAIN MANY SPOILERS! --[[User:Team Hyper|Team Hyper]] 15:54, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

== Sky's Present ==

The Shaymin Mission isn't a special episode, it's just an addition to the afterstory. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] ([[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Giratina's_Embodiment|contribs]])'' 01:15, 2 October 2008 (UTC) 19:07, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

== Updates to the artworks ==

I found out that there were some missing artworks here, so I've added two "new" artworks which I still had on my pc for some reason. One with a Chimchar and a Phanpy helping an Oddish, and one with a Squirtle and a Vulpix standing before a crystal. I've updated some of the other artworks too, which are now slightly better. --[[User:Grovyle91|Grovyle]][[Special:Contributions/Grovyle91|91]] 01:46, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

:What site did you get them from? And I have my reasons for asking... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:45, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:He said the Japanese site when he uploaded them on the Archives. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:50, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::Yes I saw that. I had forgotten that the PMD3 things were done slightly different than most official arts, especially the Oddish. That's what caught my eye when I first looked. I had thought it was fanart at first, because people can say things and {{tt|do another thing|nothing against Grovyle91, I'm just being extra careful for some reason... probably because I've been gone a month}}. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

:::Yeah, but it isn't fanart ;) You can also see these images in-game at the main menus ([http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/dungeon_sora/introduction/wifi.html#anc03 here] and [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/dungeon_sora/introduction/wifi_02.html here]). These artworks were from the Japanese Pokémon site from months ago, but since the game has been released in Japan the artworks are removed. I've made a video then, that's why I still had these images in my pictures folder. Btw if you're interested, there are some more artworks [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/dungeon_sora/introduction/variation.html here] (bottom) and [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/dungeon_sora/introduction/treasure.html here] (top right). And sorry for my many "here"-links :p. --[[User:Grovyle91|Grovyle]][[Special:Contributions/Grovyle91|91]] 13:14, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::::Yeah, thanks. Like I said, I'm just being odd right now. I don't know why. And don't worry about the links. We do that all the time anyways. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:50, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

:::::No problem. The Mystery Dungeon artworks are indeed different, if I were you I would be kinda suspicious too. Not to mention that these artworks are removed from the official site. I'm just glad that I could upload something :) --[[User:Grovyle91|Grovyle]][[Special:Contributions/Grovyle91|91]] 22:56, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== Sky's Present - and LISTEN THIS TIME! ==

The Sky's Present mission isn't a Special Episode, it's just an addition to the afterstory. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] ([[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Giratina's_Embodiment|contribs]])'' 17:25, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
*First of all, sign using <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.
*Second of all, if it isn't a special episode, change it yourself.
[[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 20:08, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Lawlz. [[User:Missingno. Master|Glitchy]] started it. --[[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]]. 18:14, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

See the second latest revision for why I won't do it myself. I ''suck'' at tables. --[[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]]. 18:18, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

== Should Manectric and the 8 Electrike be mentioned ? ==

In the game, A Manectric and 8 Electrike replace the Luxray and the Luxio tribe as the boss at Amp Plains.Also Should Manetric and the 8 Electrike
have a page.We did this for Luxary and the Luxio tribe.[[User:LucarioWolf|The Aura Wolf !]] 19:41, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

== The 7 Treasures ==

The wonder mail-s codes should be posted for the 7 treasures, although apperently, after you rescue scizor, the mail will start appearing in spinda's cafe. The mail are self-deleting, and the only things that the mail are good for is telling you that you can go there. Also, considering that I already have 2 after 3 in-game days of playing it, I would say getting all 7 shouldn tactually need the codes, but for good measure....

I have worlds abyss, and shimmer desert, although worlds abyss mail already deleted itself :(

Find the terra cymbal that lies hidden deep beneath Shimmer desert
Wonder Mail S:
T%526 Q6JN785 T8N5P
X5FPK WJRR5NW Y&--#

Oh, and what would be a good lvl to challenge them at with my leader being riolu and my partner being pikachu?

[[User:Atomix26|Atomix26]] 00:01, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

== Australian Realease ==

Nintendo Australia has the release date of the 12 november 2009 http://www.nintendo.com.au/index.php?action=catalogue&prodcat_id=&prod_id=19448&pageID=3
I'll add to release date. [[User:Booker|Booker :)]] 00:30, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky

2009-11-04T00:31:00Z

Booker:

{{search|game|the special anime episode|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky - Beyond Time & Darkness}}
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{{Infobox_game |
name = Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky |
boxart =[[File:PMD-EoS Box.jpg|250px]] |
caption = American boxart|
category = Dungeon Crawler/Roguelike |
players = 1 |
release_date_ja = April 18, 2009 |
release_date_au = November 12, 2009 |
release_date_eu = November 20, 2009 |
release_date_na = October 12, 2009 |
release_date_kr = TBA |
publisher = [[Nintendo]]/[[The Pokémon Company]] |
developer = [[Chunsoft]] |
esrb = E for Everyone |
website_en = http://www.pokemonmysterydungeon.com |
website_ja = http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game/ds/dungeon2009/
}}

'''Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky''' (Japanese: '''ポケモン不思議のダンジョン空の探検隊''' ''Pokémon Fushigi no Dungeon Sora no Tankentai'') is a game developed by [[Chunsoft]], and is a sister game to [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness]]. The game was first announced in [[CoroCoro]], which released the first details in January 2009. It was officially released in Japan on April 18, 2009 and in North America on October 12th, 2009.

==New features==
*Players can now play as four new [[starter Pokémon]]: {{p|Phanpy}}, {{p|Vulpix}},  {{p|Riolu}}, and {{p|Shinx}}. Munchlax and Meowth are no longer playable, but Eevee returns from ''Pokémon'' ''Red'' and ''Blue Rescue Team''. Moreover, every playable Pokémon, plus Meowth and Munchlax, are now available as partners.
**Starter and partner Pokémon now come along with an [[egg move]].
*Players can now play the music used in the game with the '''Sky Jukebox'''.
*There is a new place called '''Spinda's Café''' where the following can be found:
**'''Spinda's Juice Bar''' grants access to the '''Unexplored Land''', and it also allows players to make their own food.
**'''Recycle Shop''' allows players to exchange excess items for other items. The more items exchanged, the better the items available will be. Players may also get Prize Tickets to obtain items.
*The player's team recruits can now be found in Spinda's Café
* There is a new location called the '''Secret Bazaar''' which is found randomly in dungeons. It is run by a {{p|Kirlia}}. The bazaar has several stalls found inside.
**Mime Jr.'s stall restores the player's health and also feeds them.
**Swalot's ''Grab Bag Shop'' gives players Grab Bags. They may hold useful items inside them.
**Lickilicky's will help players clean items in their inventory.
**Shedinja's gives players a chance to escape the dungeon sooner.
*Players can find a statue of {{p|Arceus}} in a new dungeon called '''Destiny Tower'''. The story here involves a new item called the '''Space Globe'''.
*Players only lose half of their money when defeated in a dungeon, instead of all of it.
*Using DS Download Play, the player can send their friends a demo of the game.
*The {{p|Luxray}} and {{p|Luxio}} tribe that was the boss of [[Amp Plains]] has been replaced by the {{p|Manectric}} and {{p|Electrike}} tribe. This is possibly due to one of the starter and partner choices in this game being Shinx.

===Special episodes===
During the course of the game, players can engage in various scenarios that expand upon the story of some of the different characters.

*''Bidoof's Wish'': The first episode features the past of the {{p|Bidoof}} in the [[Wigglytuff Guild]] just after he entered the guild. He goes to the [[Star Cave]] to have his wish granted by a {{p|Jirachi}}. Unlocked after completing Chapter 3.
*''Igglybuff the Prodigy'': The second episode features {{OBP|Wigglytuff|Mystery Dungeon 2 character}} as an {{p|Igglybuff}}. It explores his past and explains how he became an explorer. Unlocked after completing Chapter 9.
*''Today's "Oh My Gosh"'': The third episode features the {{p|Sunflora}} in the guild. She was given a mission to seek out a {{p|Haunter}} but was apparently unprepared for what she was about to face. Unlocked after completing Chapter 12.
*''Here Comes Team Charm!'': The fourth episode features [[Team Charm]] and their past. Team AWD can also be found here. Unlocked after completing Chapter 15.
*''In the Future of Darkness'': The fifth episode is set in the dark future. {{OBP|Grovyle|Mystery Dungeon 2 character}} and {{OBP|Dusknoir|Mystery Dungeon 2 character}} work together when [[Primal Dialga]] tries to get rid of them. Unlocked after graduating from the Guild.

====Gallery====
{| align="center" style="background: #{{md sky color}}; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 4px solid #{{md sky color}};" colspan=4 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align="center"
! style="background: #{{md sky color}};" colspan="5" | {{color|{{md sky color dark}}|Special Episodes Gallery}}
|-
! style="background: #{{md sky color dark}}; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px;" | {{color|{{md sky color light}}|Episode 1}}
! style="background: #{{md sky color dark}};" | {{color|{{md sky color light}}|Episode 3}}
! style="background: #{{md sky color dark}};" | {{color|{{md sky color light}}|Episode 4}}
! style="background: #{{md sky color dark}};" | {{color|{{md sky color light}}|Episode 5}}
|-

| [[File:MD Sky episode 3.png|150px]]
| [[File:MD Sky episode 4.png|150px]]
| [[File:MD Sky episode 5 Team Charm.png|150px]]
| [[File:Pmd grovyle dusknoir.jpg|150px]]
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{md sky color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 5px" | {{color|{{md sky color dark}}|Bidoof}}
| align="center" style="background: #{{md sky color light}};" | {{color|{{md sky color dark}}|Sunflora}}
| align="center" style="background: #{{md sky color light}};" | {{color|{{md sky color dark}}|Team Charm}}
| align="center" style="background: #{{md sky color light}};" | {{color|{{md sky color dark}}|Grovyle & Dusknoir}}
|}

==Connectivity==
This game is capable of trading items with [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness]]. Other features, if any, are currently unknown.
==Gallery==
<gallery perrow=4>
Image:EoS Wigglytuff Guild.jpg|The new starters and {{p|Skitty}}
Image:Pmd3 grovyle.jpg|[[Grovyle (Mystery Dungeon 2 character)|Grovyle]] and a [[Time Gear]]
Image:PMD3 explore.jpg|Exploration
Image:MD Sky Chimchar Phanpy.jpg|{{p|Chimchar}} and {{p|Phanpy}} helping an {{p|Oddish}}
Image:MD Sky Squirtle Vulpix.jpg|{{p|Squirtle}} and {{p|Vulpix}} standing before a crystal
Image:Pmd sky giratina.png|{{p|Giratina}} (Origin Forme), {{p|Riolu}}, and {{p|Pikachu}} explore a dungeon
File:MD Sky Jukebox.png|Sky Jukebox
File:MD Sky jukebox use.png|Using the jukebox
File:MD Sky m in a bottle.png|A message in a bottle
File:MD Sky Arceus statue.png|Destiny Tower
File:Pmd sky arceus.png|Riolu and the Arceus statue
</gallery>

==See also==
{{bulbanews|game}}

===External links===
*[http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/dungeon_sora/ Japanese game site]
*[http://www.pokemon.com/#videogames_42 English game site]
*[http://e3.nintendo.com/ds/d6/index.html/ E3 09 page.]

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{{Side series}} 
{{Project Games notice}}

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Talk:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky

2009-11-04T00:30:02Z

Booker: /* Australian Realease */ new section

So is this truly MD3, as a sequel to MD2, or is it MD2.5, as a third version to EOT and EOD? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:58, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

:Officially PMD3, it's the sequel (or third version, I suppose) to PMD2, carrying the story on where PMD2 left it. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 09:10, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::I don't think we can be sure exactly what this game is yet. Dogasu's already calling it the Platinum to MD2. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 16:02, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
::: Unown Lord said the official website also said the same thing. It's Pokemon Mystery Dungeon 2 with new quests and starter Pokémon, but it retains all of the plot, content, and things from Time and Darkness. Considering that, we should probably move this page to something that doesn't say Mystery Dungeon 3. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 19:08, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

:Agree. This should be the third version of PMD2. Since its plot is the same.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 14:24, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
::OBJECTION! Clearly, this contradicts that fact that the plot is, in fact, NOT the same. *taps papers* If you recall, Herr Billy, Grovyle and Dusknoir were seen SURROUNDED BE SABLEYE! That is not in the plot of the original PMD2 games! *plays Pursuit - Cornered (Orchestra)* This is a clear contradiction in the witness testimony! Obviously, this game is a direct sequel to the other two PMD2 games! '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 15:21, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

:: Even with a modified plot/story, it isn't to be understood as a third installment of the Dungeon series - it's still just a third part of PMD2. o.o I'm for moving it to something that doesn't contain "Dungeon 3" as well. --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 23:37, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

:: Seriously, this can't stay "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 3". It's not a third installment of the series, it's a third version of the second installment. Regardless of whether it would be "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky" or something else, it '''can't''' stay "Dungeon '''3'''". Though I really don't see a problem with "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky" since, the movie articles have [[Arceus:_To_a_Conquering_Spacetime|translated titles]] as well and a redirect would exist for those who try to find "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 3". o.o --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 03:36, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I'm guessing you haven't read the other conversations. The page is protected, and we can't do anything about the title or even update the information on the page. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 18:51, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

:::: You're right, I didn't notice the other discussion. Sorry. Kinda strange to have two of them on one talk page. o.o The fact that the page is protected isn't relevant though. It's better than having people moving it back and froth all the time. --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 03:33, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
::::: I unprotected it and moved it back to it's correct name. I also corrected the names of the pages for the other games in the series, since NONE of them have sequential numbers in their name. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 05:31, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

==Starter==
I don't get this line : "Every starter Pokémon from the previous games can now be a partner as well, bringing the total of starting Pokémon to 21, only 19 of which are available to the player, since Meowth and Munchlax can only be selected as partners." What does it mean? You can't pick Munchlax and Meowth as the playing character? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Happizelpom}} ([[User talk:Happizelpom|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|contribs]]){{ #if: 23:57, 20 January 2009 | 23:57, 20 January 2009 |}}''
:Nope. Check the [[starter Pokémon]] page. - '''[[User talk:EspeonA|esp]][[Special:Contributions/EspeonA|eon]][[User:EspeonA|A]]''' 00:00, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

== Riolu! ==

OK, I swear I put up a line on pic. 1 saying Riolu was the leader of the squad. If the deleter responds, if you remember this, could you please recall exactly what the f***ing h*** I said? [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] 03:38, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:Watch the language, please. It's in the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Mystery_Dungeon_3&action=history page history], you can go and look yourself. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 04:14, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah, sorry. Anyways, if you're the deleter, why is it deleted? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Giratina's Embodiment}} ([[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Giratina's Embodiment|contribs]]){{ #if: 20:40, 24 January 2009 | 20:40, 24 January 2009 |}}''
::Check the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Mystery_Dungeon_3&action=history page history] to see for yourself who deleted it and why it was deleted. [[Special:Contributions/EspeonA|—]] '''[[User talk:EspeonA|e]][[User:EspeonA|A]]''' 20:42, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I did the deletion. I deleted it since I see no need for it to be mentioned, what the caption says is already enough. If I recall, you said that "Riolu ''seems'' to be a leader in this squad, seen holding a Rescue Badge" and the word "seems" don't belong in any article on the mainspace. --☆'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 02:07, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

== Release date confirmed ==

April 18th, 2009--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 12:42, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:From? --×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 12:49, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::Serebii confirmed it on his front page with another CoroCoro scan. The box art was revealed as well. [[User:Ryuartyi|Ryuartyi]] 13:04, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Ahh. The page is protected, so an admin must be the one to add the info. ×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 13:15, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Confirmed also by bluesky, and boxart revealed.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 18:17, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

== Image... ==

Do you like? [[Image:EOS.PNG]] It's from Serebii. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:54, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:I'd say logo for now, and let's wait for an official box art image.×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 02:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::And a clearer one too.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 02:12, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

== Game Site Updated ==

Pokémon.co.jp was just updated with [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/dungeon_sora/], showing a bunch of story information and other general info. [[User:Ryuartyi|Ryuartyi]] 03:57, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

It shows that a Skymin will be involved in the story. *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 09:23, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:Plus there's a story that happened in the past, where {{OBP|Wigglytuff|Mystery Dungeon 2 character}} as an {{p|Igglybuff}} is involved. --×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 09:30, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

== Add ==

Could anyone add this: [[Image:Pmd sky giratina.png]] *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 09:35, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:I'm sure someone could. You could. But, um, .png format is preferred. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:42, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::protected *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 09:43, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:::D'oh. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 10:25, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

== REAL FREAKIN' TITLE ==

THE REAL TITLE OF THE GAME IS '''Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky''' (and it's not the "third series", it's actually the third version of Darkness/Time!) Can someone with powers move the article? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 11:09, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:This is quiet true. We need an admin to change the title.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 12:30, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::I agree with the witness's statement. I see no "san" in the title. It is a third version, for sure. I demand that an admin move it to the correct title, or else be placed in contempt of court. '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 12:33, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

:::Yeah. Besides, they're EXACTLY THE SAME except for the side-quests and starters. Someone needs to put sidequest info in! If this is a sequel to PMD2, (which it isn't) then Emerald must be a sequel to Ruby/Sapphire! [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 18:18, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::::But they didn't move {{g|Mystery Dungeon}} into Pokémon Mystery Dungeon:Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team and {{g|Mystery Dungeon 2}} into Pokémon Mystery Dungeon:Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness. ×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 04:01, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Which leaves us with a quandry. What do we call this page? 3 doesn't fit, as it's not a sequel to 2. Explorers of Sky doesn't fit, as that's not analogous to the other pages. Ideas? --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 01:26, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

::::::What about Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2.5? [[User:0 Degrees|0]][[User talk:0 Degrees|°]] 01:33, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::That rankles me, personally. I hate calling anything "n.5" unless it's referred to as such officially. Another idea would be to move the other pages to more standard titles, but then that begs the question as to why they're not at those titles in the first place... --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 01:36, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:Merge to MD2 and make special mention of the third version? Treat it like r/b/y, r/s/e, etc.? (Although that still has the analogousness issue) [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|10% Satisfaction Guaranteed!]] 01:39, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah, just treat it like a third version to the first two, like Emerald is to Ruby and Sapphire. It's not exactly a sequel, since it has the same storyline, just extended. Though that doesn't really work out the title issue... '''~ overgrown'''[[User:Sol|s]][[User_talk:Sol|o]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|l]] 02:05, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:::We should stick to official titles instead of numbers, IMO. It's like referring to The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past as "The Legend of Zelda 3"; it sort of is, sequentially, but not officially. If we don't want to have an awfully long name ("Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness", like [[wp:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|Wikipedia does it]]), I'd think we should just simplify it like this: "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Darkness". Same would apply to PMD1. '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 02:27, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::::It's been moved to "Explorers of Time and Darkness" before, but it was disagreed upon because it's not one game, but two separate games, and since Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness is too long... '''~ overgrown'''[[User:Sol|s]][[User_talk:Sol|o]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|l]] 02:29, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Too long as in, MediaWiki can't handle titles of that length? Or too long as in, people thought it looked too long? --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 03:26, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::It's too long to type in the Search bar. [[User:Haruka uzumaki|Trust me, there have been users with a 100+ character subpage before]].'''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 11:47, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::That's the use of redirects. (But I don't support the title change.) --×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 11:55, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I agree with Kevzo8.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 12:48, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:I support Pocket Monsters Mystery Dungeon 2: Explorers of the Sky. '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 13:52, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::I don't care what you all decide it should be called, the whole thing needs to be updated. I mean, heck, even Wikipedia has it updated right for once. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 02:29, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

::: I've been not very active for a while and am not sure about this. How exactly do we come to an agreement for a title? I mean, I could do a move to "Pocket Monsters Mystery Dungeon 2: Explorers of the Sky", but that makes no sense as long as others disagree, especially other sysops. o.o" If this is relevant to the Time/Darkness article title as well, maybe someone from the Editorial Board should join the discussion? --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 03:33, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
::::I'm against a merge because that's not how we treat the main-series games. But nYoo's idea has some merit. We should stick {{template|search}} tags at the top of each page, but I think it'd work. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 23:39, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Really, MD2 should be at Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Darkness like the Gen III main games are at Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions, and MD1 at Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red and Blue Rescue Team. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:12, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
As the one who started this page I named this after the pattern of the other articles. Also I wasn't aware this would be an extension of the second games' story. If I still could, I'd move it to [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky]]. [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 04:31, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
== Sunday title. ==

Copied from Filb: In der heutigen Folge 226 der wöchentlichen japanischen TV-Sendung wurde erstmals der neue Pokémon-Mystery-Dungeon-Titel ポケモン不思議のダンジョン空の探検隊 Pokémon Fushigi no Dungeon: Sora no Tankentai, über den wir gestern ausführlich berichteten, erstmals live angespielt.

For those who don't understand German, it basically says, minus some unessecary talking: In EP 226 (Of Pokémon Sunday) a new title ポケモン不思議のダンジョン空の探検隊 Pokémon Fushigi no Dungeon: Sora no Tankentai, which we (Filb) reported yesterday, was referenced.

Understanding no Japanese, I ask if the title differs from the one we currently have. Sunday also apparently talked about some gameplay elements, and debuted Arceus on TV, but given that the release date is still a while yet, they could still be beta. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 16:02, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

: Ah, you misunderstood. It doesn't say anything about a new title for the game. "der neue Pokémon-Mystery-Dungeon-Titel XYZ [...]" = "the new title of the Mystery Dungeon series, XYZ, [...]", as in the new entry or game or whatever. --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 12:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:: booooo [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 02:14, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

== Wigglytuff's Back Story ==

Now that it's been proven that the Igglybuff in the pictures is Wigglytuff, shouldn't we say he is in the main article. along with that why aren't I allowed to edit the page? {{unsigned|TeamMegaraptor}}
:You aren't allowed to edit the page because it has been locked by the administrators. I do think it should be worth a tiny mention, but we still don't know a lot of information. It will probably be added once the game releases in Japan. [[User:Ryuartyi|Ryuartyi]] 03:17, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
::Well, it's most likely protected so people don't edit it, and then have to change incorrect info. Like how Platinum is protected for that reason. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 03:44, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

== Mystery Dungeon 3 Special ==

Serebii updated with news from Pokéani that there will be a PMD3 special airing on April 12th. I'd start the page, but I'm clueless how to start a special episode page. [[User:Ryuartyi|Ryuartyi]] 01:04, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
:That's fine. It'll be up eventually. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:16, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

== Add Arceus ==

Could someone upload this: [[Image:Pmd_sky_arceus.png]] [[User:AlienX2008|☆AlienX2008☆]]
:Nope. The page is protected. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:23, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

== Serebii.net just got more news on the game! ==

Hi everybody. I just wanted to let you know that over the past couple of days, Serebii.net got more information on the game. Would someone that has permission to edit the article go to Serebii and put the new information about the game on this page please? Also, do the guy a favor who commented above, add the picture of Arceus (it looks cool). Thank You --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 23:31, 13 March 2009 (UTC)Dialgafan1
:Um... yeah. You guys haven't read anything that was already said. We aren't adding anything untill it actually comes out. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 01:20, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

== Update? ==

Is anyone going to update this page?

I would do it myself but I don't know all proper formatting and stuff.[[User:Hyperdudeman|Hyperdudeman]] 00:28, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:Give it a go. If it's wrong, we'll let you know and fix it up. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 00:47, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

== A few questions ==

Does this game still use the same "portraits" we use for the PMD2 side-game sprites? Is Arceus actually available in the game or is there just the statue? Are all of Rotom's forms in this game?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:20, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:Most likely. Statue only. I don't think so. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:40, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

== Release date ==

'''N. America - ''October 12, 2009''' Eh? Where did it say this? [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 05:17, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
:I've asked the adder of the information to explain himself, and I have taken it out of the article for the time being. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 11:35, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
::I closed the window and not finding it again.
::hope that I would have been right (though my grammar might be wrong)--[[User:Tobytse99|tobytse]] 14:31, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
:::[http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=176075 fan spec.]--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']]* [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]'''at 22:22, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Oh, I see...
::::My fault...--[[User:Tobytse99|tobytse]] 13:43, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::This work? [http://kotaku.com/5325436/a-bit-more-pokemon-mystery-dungeon-coming-in-october http://kotaku.com/5325436/a-bit-more-pokemon-mystery-dungeon-coming-in-october] [[User:Ampere|Ampere]] 19:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

==The Storylines==
I know the storylines to the special episodes after revising them about 22 times. I can't exactly read what's being said properly, but I can easily give the main outline and put it on the page.
WARNING: IT WILL CONTAIN MANY SPOILERS! --[[User:Team Hyper|Team Hyper]] 15:54, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

== Sky's Present ==

The Shaymin Mission isn't a special episode, it's just an addition to the afterstory. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] ([[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Giratina's_Embodiment|contribs]])'' 01:15, 2 October 2008 (UTC) 19:07, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

== Updates to the artworks ==

I found out that there were some missing artworks here, so I've added two "new" artworks which I still had on my pc for some reason. One with a Chimchar and a Phanpy helping an Oddish, and one with a Squirtle and a Vulpix standing before a crystal. I've updated some of the other artworks too, which are now slightly better. --[[User:Grovyle91|Grovyle]][[Special:Contributions/Grovyle91|91]] 01:46, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

:What site did you get them from? And I have my reasons for asking... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:45, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:He said the Japanese site when he uploaded them on the Archives. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:50, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::Yes I saw that. I had forgotten that the PMD3 things were done slightly different than most official arts, especially the Oddish. That's what caught my eye when I first looked. I had thought it was fanart at first, because people can say things and {{tt|do another thing|nothing against Grovyle91, I'm just being extra careful for some reason... probably because I've been gone a month}}. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

:::Yeah, but it isn't fanart ;) You can also see these images in-game at the main menus ([http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/dungeon_sora/introduction/wifi.html#anc03 here] and [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/dungeon_sora/introduction/wifi_02.html here]). These artworks were from the Japanese Pokémon site from months ago, but since the game has been released in Japan the artworks are removed. I've made a video then, that's why I still had these images in my pictures folder. Btw if you're interested, there are some more artworks [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/dungeon_sora/introduction/variation.html here] (bottom) and [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/dungeon_sora/introduction/treasure.html here] (top right). And sorry for my many "here"-links :p. --[[User:Grovyle91|Grovyle]][[Special:Contributions/Grovyle91|91]] 13:14, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::::Yeah, thanks. Like I said, I'm just being odd right now. I don't know why. And don't worry about the links. We do that all the time anyways. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:50, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

:::::No problem. The Mystery Dungeon artworks are indeed different, if I were you I would be kinda suspicious too. Not to mention that these artworks are removed from the official site. I'm just glad that I could upload something :) --[[User:Grovyle91|Grovyle]][[Special:Contributions/Grovyle91|91]] 22:56, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== Sky's Present - and LISTEN THIS TIME! ==

The Sky's Present mission isn't a Special Episode, it's just an addition to the afterstory. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] ([[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Giratina's_Embodiment|contribs]])'' 17:25, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
*First of all, sign using <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.
*Second of all, if it isn't a special episode, change it yourself.
[[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 20:08, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Lawlz. [[User:Missingno. Master|Glitchy]] started it. --[[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]]. 18:14, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

See the second latest revision for why I won't do it myself. I ''suck'' at tables. --[[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]]. 18:18, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

== Should Manectric and the 8 Electrike be mentioned ? ==

In the game, A Manectric and 8 Electrike replace the Luxray and the Luxio tribe as the boss at Amp Plains.Also Should Manetric and the 8 Electrike
have a page.We did this for Luxary and the Luxio tribe.[[User:LucarioWolf|The Aura Wolf !]] 19:41, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

== The 7 Treasures ==

The wonder mail-s codes should be posted for the 7 treasures, although apperently, after you rescue scizor, the mail will start appearing in spinda's cafe. The mail are self-deleting, and the only things that the mail are good for is telling you that you can go there. Also, considering that I already have 2 after 3 in-game days of playing it, I would say getting all 7 shouldn tactually need the codes, but for good measure....

I have worlds abyss, and shimmer desert, although worlds abyss mail already deleted itself :(

Find the terra cymbal that lies hidden deep beneath Shimmer desert
Wonder Mail S:
T%526 Q6JN785 T8N5P
X5FPK WJRR5NW Y&--#

Oh, and what would be a good lvl to challenge them at with my leader being riolu and my partner being pikachu?

[[User:Atomix26|Atomix26]] 00:01, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

== Australian Realease ==

Nintendo Australia has the release date of the 12 november 2009
I'll add to release date. [[User:Booker|Booker :)]] 00:30, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

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'''The Princess and the Togepi''' (Japanese: '''カスミ登場！トゲピーとまぼろしの王国!!''' ''Enter {{tt|Kasumi|Misty}}! Togepi and the Mirage Kingdom!!'') is the 44th episode of the {{series|Advanced Generation}}, and the 318th episode of the [[Pokémon anime]]. It was first broadcast in Japan on September 25, 2003 and in the United States on September 25, 2004.
{{spoilers}}

== Synopsis ==

{{Ash}} and [[Brock]], along with May and Max, meet up with Misty. The old friends exchange greetings, and Misty proceeded on telling May and Max that she already knows their name. Misty shows off her invitation to a convention for {{p|Togepi}} trainers and approaches the hotel behind them. Just then, two mysterious people dressed in outfits with Togepi markings come up to Misty and take her into the building. Inside, the two people, who are actually Team Rocket, tell {{p|Meowth}} to take off. The building then collapses and a blimp starts floating away. Ash and his friends realize that Misty was in trouble and rush toward the rope hanging from the blimp. All of them manage to grab the rope and make their way into the blimp.

The blimp goes through a sandstorm in a desert and reaches their destination, the [[Mirage Kingdom]]. Meowth lands the blimp in a landing area, and Jessie and James disguise themselves again. As Misty leaves the blimp, Ash and the others come out, as well as Jessie and James. When they were asked for their identity, Team Rocket gladly recite their motto. Misty becomes furious at them, thinking that they were trying to steal {{AP|Pikachu}}. However, Team Rocket tells them that they were after {{TP|Misty|Togepi}}. As the battle commences, a man steps in together with his {{p|Ninjask}} and a {{p|Shedinja}}.

He demands for Misty's Togepi, but Misty refuses to hand it over to him. Hansen then orders Shedinja to use Solarbeam to demonstrate its power. Ash and Brock face Hansen with Pikachu and Mudkip, while Misty, Max, and May run away. When Hansen notices that the Togepi is getting away, he commanded Shedinja to go after them. Misty, Max, and May keeps running until they reach a maze. Shedinja appears, freaking Misty out. But she is determined to protect Togepi. She sends out Corsola and orders it to use Spike Canon. Unfortunately, the attack did not scratch the bug Pokémon a bit. Shedinja attacks with another SolarBeam, hitting Misty so hard that she loses Togepi.

A girl in a blue dress discovers Togepi and notices how hurt it is. She informs the caretaker about her find and brings Togepi to a room for treatment. This girl turns out to be [[Princess Sara|Sara]], the princess of the Mirage Kingdom. When Sara brings Togepi to her parents, both are certainly thrilled by it. At this point, Misty barges in and sees Togepi. The queen thinks that Misty was trying to steal Togepi, but Sara quickly realizes that Togepi belonged to her. Misty thanks the princess for taking care of Togepi and proceeded on telling them that Hansen tried to steal it from her.

Meanwhile, Hansen states that he has a plan to steal Togepi and tells Team Rocket that they will be rewarded if they do their job.

As Misty and company go outside of the temple, Ash and Brock meet up with them. Brock goes gaga for the princess and starts flirting with her. Misty does her usual thing with him, which is pulling him by the ear, but she also throws him back. Max and May are quite shocked by this but they were impressed nevertheless.

The princess explains the importance of Togepi to the kingdom. However, knowing that Hansen is set on trying to take Togepi, she asks Ash and his friends to leave the Mirage Kingdom immediately for their safety. But as they are about to leave they notice a temple in the sky. Togepi seems to be reaching for it and then it suddenly floats away. Hansen and Team Rocket appears. Shedinja fires a SolarBeam at them and Pikachu counters it with its Thunderbolt.

== Major events ==
*[[Misty]] returns.
**Misty and {{an|May}} & [[Max]] meet each other for the first time.
=== Debuts ===
==== Pokémon debuts ====
*{{p|Ninjask}}
*{{p|Shedinja}}

== Characters ==
=== Humans ===
* {{Ash}}
* [[Misty]]
* [[Brock]]
* {{an|May}}
* [[Max]]
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]
* {{ho|Miranda}}
* [[Princess Sara]]
* [[Colonel Hansen]]
* [[King and Queen of the Mirage Kingdom]]

=== Pokémon ===
[[Pokémon Trainer’s Choice]]: {{p|Minun}}
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Togepi}} ({{OP|Misty|Togepi}})
* {{p|Wobbuffet}} ({{OP|Jessie|Wobbuffet}})
* {{p|Corsola}} ({{OP|Misty|Corsola}})
* {{p|Mudkip}} ({{OP|Brock|Mudkip}})
* {{p|Shedinja}} ([[Colonel Hansen]]'s; debut)
* {{p|Ninjask}} ([[Colonel Hansen]]'s; debut, ×2)

== Trivia ==
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* This was the first episode featuring [[Misty]]'s [[List of clothing in the anime#Advanced Generation 2 |''Advanced Generation'' outfit.]]
* This episode aired in America exactly one year after its Japanese air date.
* The dub title is based on the fairy tale "The Princess and the Pea".
* The Japanese voice artists for all three of Ash's female traveling companions are featured in this episode and the next one; [[Mayumi Iizuka]] and [[KAORI]] voice Misty and May respectively and [[Megumi Toyoguchi]], who voices Princess Sara in this episode, went on to play {{an|Dawn}} during the {{series|Diamond & Pearl}}.
* This episode has the distinction of being one of three featuring the most leads in a single episode. It features {{an|May}}, [[Max]], {{TP|Misty|Togepi}}, [[Misty]], [[Brock]], [[Jessie]], [[James]], {{MTR}}, and, of course, {{Ash}} and {{AP|Pikachu}}. The only leads to not appear in this episode are {{Tracey}}, and {{an|Dawn}} and [[Dawn's Piplup|her Piplup]], who wouldn't appear in [[DP001|another 148 episodes]]. The other two are ''[[AG045|A Togepi Mirage]]'', the second part of this episode, and ''[[AG133|The Right Place and the Right Mime]]''.
* This episode marks the first time [[Max]] pulls [[Brock]] away from a girl.
=== Errors ===
=== Dub edits ===

==In other languages==
* Finnish: '''{{tt|Prinsessa ja Togepi|Princess and Togepi}}'''
* French: '''{{tt|La princesse et le Togépi|The princess and the Togepi}}'''
* German: '''{{tt|Die Prinzessin und das Togepi|The princes and the Togepi}}'''
* Hebrew: '''הנסיכה וטוגפי''' ''{{tt|hanesikha veTogepi|The Princess and Togepi}}''
* Italian: '''{{tt|Uno strano regno|A strange kingdom}}
* Portuguese (Brazilian): '''{{tt|A Princesa e o Togepi|The Princess and the Togepi}}'''
* Spanish:
** Iberian Spanish: '''{{tt|La princesa y el Togepi|The princess and the Togepi}}'''
** Latin American Spanish: '''{{tt|¡La princesa y el Togepi!|The princess and the Togepi!}}'''

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2009-11-02T09:33:33Z

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title_en=Love at First Flight |
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title_ja_trans=Barubeat and Illumise! Dance of Love! |
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broadcast_jp=September 11, 2003 |
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'''Love at First Flight''' (Japanese: '''バルビートとイルミーゼ！愛のダンス!''' ''{{tt|Barubeat|Volbeat}} and Illumise! Dance of Love!'' ) is episode 42 of the {{series|Advanced Generation}}, and the 316th episode of the [[Pokémon anime]]. It was first broadcast in Japan on September 11, 2003 and in the United States on October 16, 2004.
{{spoilers}}

==Synopsis==
{{Incomplete synopsis}}

==Major events==
===Debuts===
====Pokémon debuts====
*{{p|Volbeat}}
*{{p|Illumise}}

==Characters==
===Humans===
* {{Ash}}
* {{an|May}}
* [[Brock]]
* [[Max]]
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]
* [[Nurse Joy]]
* [[Romeo]]
* [[Juliet]]

===Pokémon===
[[Pokémon Trainer’s Choice]]: {{p|Plusle}}
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Wobbuffet}} ({{OP|Jessie|Wobbuffet}})
* {{p|Corphish}} ({{OP|Ash|Corphish}})
* {{p|Lotad}} ({{OP|Brock|Lotad}})
* {{p|Mudkip}} ({{OP|Brock|Mudkip}})
* {{p|Seviper}} ({{OP|Jessie|Seviper}})
* {{p|Illumise}} ([[Juliet]]'s; debut)
* {{p|Volbeat}} ([[Romeo]]'s; multiple, including one nicknamed "Beat"; debut)

==Trivia==
* The dub title is based on the phrase "Love at first sight"
* For reasons unknown, this episode was pulled over and aired on a later date.
* This is the third episode that's been a reference to {{wp|William Shakespeare}}'s play of "{{wp|Romeo and Juliet}}".
* [[Bella Hudson]] takes over as Nurse Joy as of this episode from [[Megan Hollingshead]] who left after [[AG040|the end of the Pokémon Advanced series]].
* This episode marks the second time that {{Ash}} has crossdressed. He has crossdressed before in ''[[EP026|Pokémon Scent-sation]]'', and again in the future in ''[[DP062|Tanks for the Memories!]]''. It is interesting to note that Brock falls madly in love with Ash when he is dressed as Juliet, which hasn't happened before. This is probably because in the first time, he was dressed as a young girl which Brock wouldn't fall in love with, and the time after this one, Brock didn't even see him crossdressing.
* In this episode, Team Rocket uses a [[Team Rocket's mottos#Love_at_First_Flight_motto|variation]] of their motto.

===Errors===
* In Pokémon Trainer's Choice, there are two correct answers: Both Roselia and Plusle are technically correct. Plusle was the apparent correct answer, however.

===Dub edits===

===Pokémon Trainer's Choice===
* Question: Trainers, Which Pokémon would be most effective against {{p|Mudkip}}?
* Choices: {{p|Roselia}}, {{p|Plusle}}, {{p|Torchic}}
* Answer: Ok, trainers! If you chose {{p|Plusle}}, you were right!

==In other languages==
* French: '''{{tt|Coup de foudre en plein vol|Thunderbolt in full flight}}'''
* German: '''{{tt|Liebe auf den zweiten Blick|Love at second sight}}'''
* Hebrew: '''אהבה בטיסה ראשונה''' ''{{tt|ahava betisa rishona|Love at First Flight}}''
* Italian: '''{{tt|Romeo, Giulietta e i Pokémon|Romeo, Juliet and Pokémon}}'''
* Portuguese (Brazilian): '''{{tt|Amor à Primeira Voada|Love at the First Flight}}'''.
* Spanish:
** Iberian Spanish: '''{{tt|Amor al primer vuelo|Love at first flight}}'''
** Latin American Spanish: '''{{tt|¡Amor al primer vuelo!|Love at first flight!}}'''

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2009-11-02T09:33:09Z

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title_ja=飛べ、タツベイ！明日にむかって!! |
title_ja_trans=Fly Tatsubay! Towards the Future! |
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'''Let Bagons be Bagons''' (Japanese: '''飛べ、タツベイ！明日にむかって!!''' ''Fly {{tt|Tatsubay|Bagon}}! Towards the Future!'') is the 43rd episode of the {{series|Advanced Generation}}, and the 317th episode of the [[Pokémon anime]]. It was first broadcast in Japan on September 18, 2003 and in the United States on September 18, 2004.
{{spoilers}}

== Synopsis ==
{{Incomplete synopsis}}

== Major events ==
=== Debuts ===
==== Pokémon debuts ====
*{{p|Bagon}}
*{{p|Shelgon}}

== Characters ==
=== Humans ===
* {{Ash}}
* {{an|May}}
* [[Brock]]
* [[Max]]
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]
* [[Michelle]]

=== Pokémon ===
[[Pokémon Trainer’s Choice]]: {{p|Treecko}}
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Wobbuffet}} ({{OP|Jessie|Wobbuffet}})
* {{p|Taillow}} ({{OP|Ash|Taillow}})
* {{p|Treecko}} ({{OP|Ash|Treecko}})
* {{p|Seviper}} ({{OP|Jessie|Seviper}})
* {{p|Bagon}} ([[Michelle]]'s; debut, evolves)
* {{p|Shelgon}} ([[Michelle]]'s; debut, newly evolved)
* {{p|Pidgeotto}} (flock)
* {{p|Salamence}} (fantasy)

== Trivia ==

* The dub title is based on the phrase "Let boys be boys."
* This episode and the next three aired in the U.S. exactly one year after they aired in Japan.
* Music from ''[[Mewtwo Strikes Back]]'' was used.
* [[Michelle]] commanded her {{p|Bagon}} to use {{m|Skull Bash}}, when it can't learn that move legally in the games. It's possible that her Bagon realized this, and then decided to use {{m|Headbutt}} instead.

=== Errors ===

=== Dub edits ===

=== Pokémon Trainer's Choice ===
* Question: Trainers, which of these [[evolution|evolves]] into {{p|Grovyle}}?
* Choices: {{p|Nincada}}, {{p|Lotad}}, {{p|Treecko}}
* Answer: OK, trainers! If you chose {{p|Treecko}}, you were right!

==In other languages==
* Finnish: '''{{tt|Bagonin unelma|Bagon's dream}}'''
* French: '''{{tt|Vole Draby, vole!|Fly Bagon, fly!}}'''
* German: '''{{tt|Der Traum vom Fliegen|The dream of flying}}'''
* Hebrew: '''החלום לעוף''' ''{{tt|hakhalom la'oof|the dream to fly}}''
* Italian: '''{{tt|Voglia di volare|Wish to fly}}
* Portuguese (Brazilian): '''{{tt|Voe, Bagon|Fly, Bagon}}'''
* Spanish:
** Iberian Spanish: '''{{tt|Dejad que los Bagon sean Bagon|Let the Bagon be Bagon}}'''
** Latin American Spanish: '''{{tt|¡Una entrenadora científica!|A scientist trainer!}}'''

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[[ja:AG編第43話]]

AG040

2009-11-02T09:30:47Z

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altepcode=EP314 |
colorscheme=Hoenn |
title_en=Watt's with Wattson |
title_ja=キンセツジム！テッセンの電撃バトル!! |
title_ja_trans=Kinsetsu Gym! Tessen's Electric Shock Battle!! |
screen=yes |
broadcast_jp=August 28, 2003 |
broadcast_us=September 4, 2004 |
en_series=Pokémon Advanced Challenge |
en_op=[[I Wanna Be A Hero]] |
ja_op=[[Advance Adventure|アドバンス・アドベンチャー]] |
ja_ed=[[Polka O Dolka|ポルカ・オ・ドルカ]] |
olmteam=Team Ota |
scenario=松井亜弥 |
storyboard=藤本義孝 |
director=渡辺正彦 |
art=志村泉 |
morecredits=yes |
epstaffpage=AG031-AG040 |
footnotes=* [[filb-eppics:ag040|Screenshots on Filb.de]] }}
'''Watt's with Wattson?''' (Japanese: '''キンセツジム！テッセンの電撃バトル!!''' ''{{tt|Kinsetsu|Mauville}} Gym! {{tt|Tessen's|Wattson's}} Electric Shock Battle!!'') is the 40th episode of the {{series|Advanced Generation}}, and the 314th episode of the [[Pokémon anime]]. It was first broadcast in Japan on August 28, 2003 and in the United States on September 4, 2004.
{{spoilers}}
== Synopsis ==
{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|friends}} arrive at [[Mauville City]] and immediately proceed to the [[Mauville Gym]] so Ash can battle for his {{Badge|Dynamo}}. Upon arriving they are whisked away at high speeds ([[Wattson]] the [[Gym Leader]] is controlling the speed) on a platform along a long corridor and over some water till they meet what appear to be a {{p|Raikou}}. Thinking it will attack the group, Ash immediately takes action and has {{AP|Pikachu}} attack it with {{m|Iron Tail}}. The head of the Raikou falls off and it is shown that the Raikou was no more then a machine. Wattson the gym leader along with his assistant [[Watt]] promptly appear out of a door on the side. Wattson appears delighted with Ash for being able to defeat the mechanical Raikou.

At the same time [[Team Rocket]] discovers what appears to be an abandoned power station. Thinking that they could use this as a base for their operations in the Hoenn region they proceed to enter only to find out that it's filled with {{p|Voltorb}}s and {{p|Magnemite}}s. Dejected, [[Jessie]] and [[James]] leave only to be stopped by a scheming {{MTR}} who informs them that the Voltorb and Magnemite would make a great present for the boss in one of his [[boss fantasy|boss fantasies]].

The episode then cuts back to the group at the scene of the battle arena. Wattson the gym leader announces that he'll fight with a Voltorb, a Magnemite, and a {{p|Magneton}}. Magnemite is out first. Pikachu is sent out by Ash first to battle. Magnemite launches a {{m|Swift}} attack which Pikachu dodges. Pikachu then uses a {{m|Thunderbolt}} attack which knocks out Magnemite, thereby eliminating it. A stunned Wattson sends out Voltorb which launches a screech attack which is countered by another Thunderbolt by Pikachu. This amazingly knocks out Voltorb as well. Stunned again, Wattson then sends out his last Pokémon Magneton which gets the same treatment by Ash's Pikachu, knocked out by a single {{m|Thunder}} attack. A somewhat shocked and dejected Wattson hands over the Dynamo Badge to Ash. Suddenly Ash notices that Pikachu's not feeling well.

The scene then cuts to the [[Pokémon Center]] where Wattson is handing his Pokémon over to [[Nurse Joy]] so they can recover from the battle. Wattson informs Nurse Joy that he will send his assistant to pick them up. Nurse Joy appears confused as well with the rather somber attitude of Wattson which is a massive change from his usual bubbly and warm personality. Ash then rushes into the Pokémon Center asking Nurse Joy to check out his sick Pikachu.

We then see Wattson sitting by what appears to be a lake, thinking about the last battle with Ash and fearing about his future gym career. A {{p|Electrike}} then comes towards him and starts playing with Wattson.

Back at the Pokémon Center Nurse Joy tell the group that Pikachu's electric levels were higher then usual and asks Ash if he's been exposed to any high voltage recently which makes Ash disclose the incident with the mechanical Raikou. Nurse Joy informs the group that Pikachu is overcharged and this enables Pikachu to have a lot of power in its electric attacks for a short period of time. Brock then is able to figure out that this is reason for the shocking victory over Wattson. Pikachu recovers. Wattson's assistant then storms into the Pokémon Center asking if Nurse Joy has seen Wattson as he seems to have disappeared. Nurse Joy then recalls the recent incident a few minutes ago where he dropped off his Pokémon somberly. Nurse joy then works out that Wattson is at his favorite location, a lake by the abandoned power plant, coincidentally the same location as Team Rocket.

Back at the lake Electrike shows Wattson his {{m|Thunder Wave}}. Wattson then sees Team Rocket stealing the Voltorb and Magnemite from the power plant in a new electric proof machine. The group arrive at the scene and confront Team Rocket. Team Rocket steals Pikachu and Electrike and then attempt to escape. Ash is about to follow them to retrieve his Pikachu but Wattson stops him and tells him that he has a plan.

Team Rocket are overjoyed with the recent victory over the [[twerp]]s. Suddenly out of nowhere the same mechanical Raikou appears right in front of Team Rocket. The group then show up as well. Thinking it's a real Raikou, Team Rocket are petrified and become too scared to attack it. {{TP|May|Torchic}} and {{TP|Brock|Forretress}} then unsuccessfully attack the machine. Pikachu and Electrike then use {{m|Iron Tail}} and {{m|Bite}} respectively to try and break the cage they're in. Team Rocket eventually decide to try and attack the Raikou and have {{TP|Jessie|Seviper}} launch a {{m|Poison Tail}} attack on it which immediately destroys it. Right at that moment the Pokémon they just stole have just managed to break the cage and escape. Seviper and {{TP|James|Cacnea}} attack Pikachu, however Pikachu easily beats them. {{TP|Jessie|Dustox}} is then sent out and beats Pikachu but Electrike then steps in and beats it. Pikachu then uses Thunderbolt to send Team Rocket flying. Ash then confesses to Wattson the reason why he was able to beat Wattson so easily and offers to hand the badge back to Wattson. However Wattson refuses to accept the badge back insisting that Pikachu deserved it for its efforts in helping save the Pokémon at the power plant. Wattson and his assistant then say their goodbyes to the group and Ash promises Wattson that he'll battle him again in the future.

== Major events ==
* {{Ash}} defeats [[Wattson]] easily, due to {{AP|Pikachu}} being powered up from an earlier incident, and earns the {{badge|Dynamo}}.
* Wattson captures an {{p|Electrike}}.

=== Debuts ===
==== Pokémon debuts ====
* {{p|Electrike}} ({{OP|Wattson|Electrike}})

== Characters ==
=== Humans ===
* {{Ash}}
* {{an|May}}
* [[Brock]]
* [[Max]]
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]
* [[Wattson]]
* [[Watt]]

=== Pokémon ===
[[Who’s That Pokémon?]]: {{p|Meditite}}
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Wobbuffet}} ({{OP|Jessie|Wobbuffet}})
* {{p|Torchic}} ({{OP|May|Torchic}})
* {{p|Forretress}} ({{OP|Brock|Forretress}})
* {{p|Seviper}} ({{OP|Jessie|Seviper}})
* {{p|Dustox}} ({{OP|Jessie|Dustox}})
* {{p|Cacnea}} ({{OP|James|Cacnea}})
* {{p|Magnemite}} ([[Wattson]]'s)
* {{p|Magneton}} ([[Wattson]]'s)
* {{p|Voltorb}} ([[Wattson]]'s)
* {{p|Electrike}} ({{OP|Wattson|Manectric}}, new; debut)
* {{p|Magnemite}}
* {{p|Magneton}}
* {{p|Voltorb}}

== Trivia ==
*For reasons unknown, this episode, as well as ''[[AG037|Jump For Joy]]'', ''[[AG038|A Different Kind Of Misty]]'', and ''[[AG039|A Pokéblock Party]]'' has aired only twice on American TV. These may be classified as the lost TV episodes since [[Pokémon: Advanced]] underwent a three-month hiatus on [[Kids' WB!]]. They can still be obtained on Volume 8 of the Advanced DVD and the Advanced DVD Box Set.
*This episode is the last episode that Who's that Pokémon? was done before commercial.
=== Errors ===
=== Dub edits ===

==In other languages==
* French: '''{{tt|Un match électrique|An electric match}}'''
* German: '''{{tt|Spaß muss sein|It has to be fun}}'''
* Hebrew: '''קרב מחשמל''' ''{{tt|krav mekhashmel|an electrifying battle}}''
* Italian: '''{{tt|Incontro scioccante|Shocking match}}
* Portuguese (Brazilian): '''{{tt|Com Carga Total|With Full Charge}}'''
* Spanish:
** Iberian Spanish: '''{{tt|Watt y Wattson|Watt and Wattson}}'''
** Latin American Spanish: '''{{tt|¿Wattson y Watt?|Wattson and Watt?}}'''

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AG038

2009-11-02T09:29:42Z

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epcode=AG038 |
altepcode=EP312 |
colorscheme=Hoenn |
title_en=A Different Kind of Misty |
title_ja=プラスルとマイナン！山の灯台!! |
title_ja_trans=Prasle & Minun! The Mountain Lighthouse!! |
screen=yes |
broadcast_jp=August 14, 2003 |
broadcast_us=August 27, 2004 |
en_series=Pokémon Advanced |
en_op=[[I Wanna Be A Hero]] |
ja_op=[[Advance Adventure|アドバンス・アドベンチャー]] |
ja_ed=[[Polka O Dolka|ポルカ・オ・ドルカ]] |
olmteam=Team Ota |
scenario=園田英樹 |
storyboard=片貝慎 |
director=ながはまのりひこ |
art=向山祐治 |
morecredits=yes |
epstaffpage=AG031-AG040 |
footnotes=* [[filb-eppics:ag038|Screenshots on Filb.de]] }}
'''A Different Kind of Misty''' (Japanese: '''プラスルとマイナン！山の灯台!!''' ''{{tt|Prasle|Plusle}} & Minun! The Mountain Lighthouse!!'') is the 38th episode of the {{series|Advanced Generation}}, and the 312th episode of the [[Pokémon anime]]. It was first broadcast in Japan on August 14, 2003 and in the United States on August 27, 2004.
{{spoilers}}
== Synopsis ==
{{Incomplete synopsis}}

== Major events ==
=== Debuts ===
==== Pokémon debuts ====
* {{p|Minun}}
* {{p|Plusle}}
== Characters ==
=== Humans ===
* {{Ash}}
* {{an|May}}
* [[Brock]]
* [[Max]]
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]
* [[Thatcher]]
* [[Alyssa]]

=== Pokémon ===
[[Who’s That Pokémon?]]: {{p|Loudred}}
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Wobbuffet}} ({{OP|Jessie|Wobbuffet}})
* {{p|Cacnea}} ({{OP|James|Cacnea}})
* {{p|Magnemite}} ([[Alyssa]]'s)
* {{p|Plusle}} ([[Thatcher]]'s; debut)
* {{p|Minun}} ([[Thatcher]]'s; debut)

== Trivia ==
*For reasons unknown, this episode, as well as ''[[AG037|Jump For Joy]]'', ''[[AG039|A Pokéblock Party]]'', and ''[[AG040|Watt's With Wattson?]]'' has aired only twice on American TV. These may be classified as the lost TV episodes since [[Pokémon: Advanced]] underwent a 3 month hiatus on [[Kids' WB!]]. They can still be obtained on Volume 8 of the Advanced DVD and the Advanced DVD Box Set. It has been played once more in Cartoon Network's Pokémon Episodes that are new to the network in the summer of 2008.
* The running gag of Max pulling Brock's ears begins in this episode.

=== Errors ===
*In one scene, May's socks were much higher than usual. In the next scene, they completely disappeared.

*{{OP|James|Cacnea}} {{p|Cacnea}} had the three dark green diamonds under its mouth and the four point shape at the top of its head colored black like its mouth when it was attacking Ash and his friends.

=== Dub edits ===

==In other languages==
* French: '''{{tt|Une lueur dans le brouillard|A gleam in the fog}}'''
* German: '''{{tt|Der Held im Nebel|The hero in the fog}}'''
* Hebrew: '''אבן האור''' ''{{tt|even ha'or|The Light Rock}}''
* Italian: '''{{tt|Un faro nella nebbia|A light in the fog}}
* Portuguese (Brazilian): '''{{tt|O Brilho da Confiança|The Bright of the Trust}}'''
* Spanish:
** Iberian Spanish: '''{{tt|Una niebla muy diferente|A very different mist}}'''
** Latin American Spanish: '''{{tt|¡La roca de luz!|The light rock!}}'''

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[[Category:Episodes written by Hideki Sonoda|312]]
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[[Category:Episodes directed by Norihiko Nagahama|312]]
[[Category:Episodes animated by Yūji Mukōyama|312]]

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[[ja:AG編第38話]]

AG040

2009-11-02T09:28:28Z

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altepcode=EP314 |
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title_en=Watt's with Wattson |
title_ja=キンセツジム！テッセンの電撃バトル!! |
title_ja_trans=Kinsetsu Gym! Tessen's Electric Shock Battle!! |
screen=yes |
broadcast_jp=August 28, 2003 |
broadcast_us=September 4, 2004 |
en_series=Pokémon Advanced Challenge |
en_op=[[I Wanna Be A Hero]] |
ja_op=[[Advance Adventure|アドバンス・アドベンチャー]] |
ja_ed=[[Polka O Dolka|ポルカ・オ・ドルカ]] |
olmteam=Team Ota |
scenario=松井亜弥 |
storyboard=藤本義孝 |
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art=志村泉 |
morecredits=yes |
epstaffpage=AG031-AG040 |
footnotes=* [[filb-eppics:ag040|Screenshots on Filb.de]] }}
'''Watt's with Wattson?''' (Japanese: '''キンセツジム！テッセンの電撃バトル!!''' ''{{tt|Kinsetsu|Mauville}} Gym! {{tt|Tessen's|Wattson's}} Electric Shock Battle!!'') is the 40th episode of the {{series|Advanced Generation}}, and the 314th episode of the [[Pokémon anime]]. It was first broadcast in Japan on August 28, 2003 and in the United States on September 4, 2004.
{{spoilers}}
== Synopsis ==
{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|friends}} arrive at [[Mauville City]] and immediately proceed to the [[Mauville Gym]] so Ash can battle for his {{Badge|Dynamo}}. Upon arriving they are whisked away at high speeds ([[Wattson]] the [[Gym Leader]] is controlling the speed) on a platform along a long corridor and over some water till they meet what appear to be a {{p|Raikou}}. Thinking it will attack the group, Ash immediately takes action and has {{AP|Pikachu}} attack it with {{m|Iron Tail}}. The head of the Raikou falls off and it is shown that the Raikou was no more then a machine. Wattson the gym leader along with his assistant [[Watt]] promptly appear out of a door on the side. Wattson appears delighted with Ash for being able to defeat the mechanical Raikou.

At the same time [[Team Rocket]] discovers what appears to be an abandoned power station. Thinking that they could use this as a base for their operations in the Hoenn region they proceed to enter only to find out that it's filled with {{p|Voltorb}}s and {{p|Magnemite}}s. Dejected, [[Jessie]] and [[James]] leave only to be stopped by a scheming {{MTR}} who informs them that the Voltorb and Magnemite would make a great present for the boss in one of his [[boss fantasy|boss fantasies]].

The episode then cuts back to the group at the scene of the battle arena. Wattson the gym leader announces that he'll fight with a Voltorb, a Magnemite, and a {{p|Magneton}}. Magnemite is out first. Pikachu is sent out by Ash first to battle. Magnemite launches a {{m|Swift}} attack which Pikachu dodges. Pikachu then uses a {{m|Thunderbolt}} attack which knocks out Magnemite, thereby eliminating it. A stunned Wattson sends out Voltorb which launches a screech attack which is countered by another Thunderbolt by Pikachu. This amazingly knocks out Voltorb as well. Stunned again, Wattson then sends out his last Pokémon Magneton which gets the same treatment by Ash's Pikachu, knocked out by a single {{m|Thunder}} attack. A somewhat shocked and dejected Wattson hands over the Dynamo Badge to Ash. Suddenly Ash notices that Pikachu's not feeling well.

The scene then cuts to the [[Pokémon Center]] where Wattson is handing his Pokémon over to [[Nurse Joy]] so they can recover from the battle. Wattson informs Nurse Joy that he will send his assistant to pick them up. Nurse Joy appears confused as well with the rather somber attitude of Wattson which is a massive change from his usual bubbly and warm personality. Ash then rushes into the Pokémon Center asking Nurse Joy to check out his sick Pikachu.

We then see Wattson sitting by what appears to be a lake, thinking about the last battle with Ash and fearing about his future gym career. A {{p|Electrike}} then comes towards him and starts playing with Wattson.

Back at the Pokémon Center Nurse Joy tell the group that Pikachu's electric levels were higher then usual and asks Ash if he's been exposed to any high voltage recently which makes Ash disclose the incident with the mechanical Raikou. Nurse Joy informs the group that Pikachu is overcharged and this enables Pikachu to have a lot of power in its electric attacks for a short period of time. Brock then is able to figure out that this is reason for the shocking victory over Wattson. Pikachu recovers. Wattson's assistant then storms into the Pokémon Center asking if Nurse Joy has seen Wattson as he seems to have disappeared. Nurse Joy then recalls the recent incident a few minutes ago where he dropped off his Pokémon somberly. Nurse joy then works out that Wattson is at his favorite location, a lake by the abandoned power plant, coincidentally the same location as Team Rocket.

Back at the lake Electrike shows Wattson his {{m|Thunder Wave}}. Wattson then sees Team Rocket stealing the Voltorb and Magnemite from the power plant in a new electric proof machine. The group arrive at the scene and confront Team Rocket. Team Rocket steals Pikachu and Electrike and then attempt to escape. Ash is about to follow them to retrieve his Pikachu but Wattson stops him and tells him that he has a plan.

Team Rocket are overjoyed with the recent victory over the [[twerp]]s. Suddenly out of nowhere the same mechanical Raikou appears right in front of Team Rocket. The group then show up as well. Thinking it's a real Raikou, Team Rocket are petrified and become too scared to attack it. {{TP|May|Torchic}} and {{TP|Brock|Forretress}} then unsuccessfully attack the machine. Pikachu and Electrike then use {{m|Iron Tail}} and {{m|Bite}} respectively to try and break the cage they're in. Team Rocket eventually decide to try and attack the Raikou and have {{TP|Jessie|Seviper}} launch a {{m|Poison Tail}} attack on it which immediately destroys it. Right at that moment the Pokémon they just stole have just managed to break the cage and escape. Seviper and {{TP|James|Cacnea}} attack Pikachu, however Pikachu easily beats them. {{TP|Jessie|Dustox}} is then sent out and beats Pikachu but Electrike then steps in and beats it. Pikachu then uses Thunderbolt to send Team Rocket flying. Ash then confesses to Wattson the reason why he was able to beat Wattson so easily and offers to hand the badge back to Wattson. However Wattson refuses to accept the badge back insisting that Pikachu deserved it for its efforts in helping save the Pokémon at the power plant. Wattson and his assistant then say their goodbyes to the group and Ash promises Wattson that he'll battle him again in the future.

== Major events ==
* {{Ash}} defeats [[Wattson]] easily, due to {{AP|Pikachu}} being powered up from an earlier incident, and earns the {{badge|Dynamo}}.
* Wattson captures an {{p|Electrike}}.

=== Debuts ===
==== Pokémon debuts ====
* {{p|Electrike}} ({{OP|Wattson|Electrike}})

== Characters ==
=== Humans ===
* {{Ash}}
* {{an|May}}
* [[Brock]]
* [[Max]]
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]
* [[Wattson]]
* [[Watt]]

=== Pokémon ===
[[Who’s That Pokémon?]]: {{p|Meditite}}
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Wobbuffet}} ({{OP|Jessie|Wobbuffet}})
* {{p|Torchic}} ({{OP|May|Torchic}})
* {{p|Forretress}} ({{OP|Brock|Forretress}})
* {{p|Seviper}} ({{OP|Jessie|Seviper}})
* {{p|Dustox}} ({{OP|Jessie|Dustox}})
* {{p|Cacnea}} ({{OP|James|Cacnea}})
* {{p|Magnemite}} ([[Wattson]]'s)
* {{p|Magneton}} ([[Wattson]]'s)
* {{p|Voltorb}} ([[Wattson]]'s)
* {{p|Electrike}} ({{OP|Wattson|Manectric}}, new; debut)
* {{p|Magnemite}}
* {{p|Magneton}}
* {{p|Voltorb}}

== Trivia ==
*For reasons unknown, this episode, as well as ''[[AG037|Jump For Joy]]'', ''[[AG038|A Different Kind Of Misty]]'', and ''[[AG039|A Pokéblock Party]]'' has aired only twice on American TV. These may be classified as the lost TV episodes since [[Pokémon: Advanced]] underwent a three-month hiatus on [[Kids' WB!]]. They can still be obtained on Volume 8 of the Advanced DVD and the Advanced DVD Box Set.
*This episode is the last episode that Who's that Pokémon? was done before commercial.
=== Errors ===
=== Dub edits ===

==In other languages==
* French: '''{{tt|Un match électrique|An electric match}}'''
* German: '''{{tt|Spaß muss sein|It has to be fun}}'''
* Hebrew: '''קרב מחשמל''' ''{{tt|krav mekhashmel|an electrifying battle}}''
* Italian: '''{{tt|Incontro scioccante|Shocking match}}
* Portuguese (Brazilian): '''{{tt|Com Carga Total|With Full Charge}}'''
* Spanish:
** Iberian Spanish: '''{{tt|Watt y Wattson|Watt and Wattson}}'''
** Latin American Spanish: '''{{tt|¿Wattson y Watt?|Wattson and Watt?}}'''

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[[Category:Advanced Generation series episodes|040]]
[[Category:Episodes written by Aya Matsui|314]]
[[Category:Episodes storyboarded by Yoshitaka Fujimoto|314]]
[[Category:Episodes directed by Masahiko Watanabe|314]]
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[[de:Spaß muss sein (Episode)]]
[[ja:AG編第40話]]

Talk:AG039

2009-11-02T09:23:41Z

Booker:

The Title in the opening was "A Poké-BLOCK Party" not as it is said here. I don't know if anyone cares but yeah [[User:Booker|Booker :)]] 09:20, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

edit: fixed it anyway a while ago [[User:Booker|Booker :)]] 09:23, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Talk:AG039

2009-11-02T09:23:18Z

Booker:

Talk:AG039

2009-11-02T09:20:43Z

Booker:

The Title in the opening was "A Poké-BLOCK Party" not as it is said here. I don't know if anyone cares but yeah [[User:Booker|Booker :)]] 09:20, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Talk:M12/Archive 1

2009-11-02T09:14:34Z

Booker: /* Australian premire :D */

== Title translation ==
I'd like to note that 超克の時空 means the Space-Time of Overcoming/Conquering and not the other way around. Even if it doesn't make much sense, this means that "To the Conquering of Space-Time" is wrong and Serebii.net's "Towards The Overcome's Time Space" is the only English translation that seems correct with everyone else seemingly believing PokéBeach.
I think we need to correct this before people memorize the incorrect translation that we apparently see almost everywhere.
As for whether "overcoming" or "conquering", to me "overcoming" sounds more accurate, but I can't say for sure as I'm not a native English speaker. It should be considered that the official movie website has an explanation for the word which says that it means "to overcome difficulties/pain": http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/chokoku/
--[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 13:19, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

:Japanese is amazing eh? Considering ''everyone'' (including Serebii) has changed it to "To the Conquering of Space-Time" (and remember, the previous translation we had was "Towards Overcoming the Space-Time Void") there's either, A: a really bad translation going around, or B: People are all getting this from one source, i.e. the movie poster. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 13:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

::I don't see where you read "To the Conquering of Space-Time" on Serebii.net - I clearly read "Towards The Overcome's Time Space" there. Are you trying to tell us that the poster has an English version of the title? If so, would you kindly point out where exactly I can see this on the poster?! --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 15:02, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:::What I meant was that most people over there are refering to it as such and Serebii himself has said that he is busy for the holidays, so it hasn't been changed yet. This universal translation; just accept it, its tenative anyway, we get the real title in Jan. And also, I can't read a word of Japanese, but if ''hundreds'' of fans can agree on a title, that says something. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 16:22, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

::::I would be willing to accept it as a universal translation, but your reasoning to call it that is pretty flawed. The number of people who can really tell whether the translation is accurate is by far less than "hundreds", most just take what is written and take it as confirmed as long as it isn't corrected. And if you say yourself that you can't read Japanese, why are you taking part in this discussion then? I mean, I don't mind your input, but you don't seem to belong to the people who can validate a translation either. It also isn't as tenative as you seem to think. Going by how Japanese movie titles have been in previous years, the title (and the logo) will be almost the same in its final version, only having a Pokémon name added to it - most likely it will be something like "超克の時空へアルセウス". And that's why we need to work out a more accurate translation as the order of words/kanji in the title can't just be a mistake, or at least it's not safe at all to assume so. Now if nobody else is interested in discussing this, I assume I shouldn't just go about changing the article and moving it. I'd be glad if someone with more knowledge of Japanese could contribute to this discussion. --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 11:28, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

:::::I may not speak Japanese, but the translation Babel Fish (a very popular translation site) gives is "To the Conquering of Space-Time". Of course Babel Fish doesn't always translate well. [[User:Arceus is the Best|Arceus is the Best]] 23:20, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't like babelfish's translations, and agree with nYoo's point that "To the Conquering of Space-Time" is inaccurate, but the truth is the majority always wins. Most English-speaking Pokémon fans know this movie as "To the Conquering of Space-Time", and it would just be confusing to try and find a better translation, especially with the official one so close. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 11:45, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

:: That's why redirects exist. o.o" People could still find it under "To the Conquering of Space-Time" even if the article title is different. --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 03:33, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Stop arguing about it, the English title will be revealed sooner or later anyway! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 22:17, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

doesn't 征服 or 征 mean overcoming, conquering, and subjugation in japanese? are you sure that 超克 means conquering? [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:23, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus ==

I'll clear one thing up before I kick off the main point of the message: I fully believe that a movie featuring Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, and Spear Pillar will feature Arceus. HOWEVER, in the blurb for PikaProj09 on the movie list article (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_movie) it is stated that the movie is "expected to feature Arceus." By whom? By whomever happened to write that sentence. I don't think that should be there until there is some actual proof beyond opinion. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]]
:Opinion... of 90% of the fandom. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Yes, but does that even matter? No doubt we will have it confirmed soon, we can readd it then. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 03:20, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
:Here is a photo that could help with proving Arceus is in the movie. The pic is from pokebeach but they only outlined part of what seems to be part of the "pointed ring" that is showed in the light.I circled the other parts. Looking at it from different angles, sometimes I think i can see its ears and a small part of its head. But that's what i think i saw so i didn't circle it. You can see it very well in the first pic. Since many people say that arceus is in the movie, I'd say this is very good proof.
[[Image:Arceus-comparison.jpg]]

Sorry it is so small as soon as I enlarge it, I will upload it.

Edit:
OK, so here is the enlarged pic, I know the arceus parts are faded, but you can still see the major parts.
[[Image:Arceus-comparison 2.jpg]]

Once I get the trailer, I will be able to upload a MUCH better and clearer picture.
[[User:Pikachugal|Pikachugal]] 02:22, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

:Calm down, friend. Arceus in this movie is too obvius. But IT IS UNCONFIRMED. We just have to wait for an official source --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <sc>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]]</sc> 02:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I just saw the new trailer on the japanese website and i am absolutely entranced by the mysterious golden blur that appears for only like half a second in the middle of the video. [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Morgil/MysteriousGoldenBlur1.jpg] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Morgil/MysteriousGoldenBlur2.jpg] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Morgil/MysteriousGoldenBlur3.jpg] [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 20:56, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

==Naming==
You know, since we don't go moving around every episode to its English title... why don't we move all of the movies to Pikachu Project (year)? Anyone think it'd be a good idea? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

:I dunno, in my opinion it's a bad idea
:does that mean we change all the Pokémon to their national dex number too?----[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 22:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

== Think about it...Makes sense! ==

"''The producers went to Greece in August, 2008; this confirms the basis for the movie's setting.''"
And looking at the above posts about Arceus. Now, I know a little about Myths and things, and remember how many '''gods''' they had in Greece, back in days far gone? Anyone else think that setting a movie in a place were they were once many ''Mythological Gods'' would be a good place for the so called "''God Pokémon''"? C: Just a theory. [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]]| サソデイ 09:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

:Still doesn't make it official. Even if the odds point to Arceus being in the movie, we're waiting until Arceus is actually confirmed to appear in the movie to add that information. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:23, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
::Ah, I said it was 'just a theory' D: I never said it was official! [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]]| サソデイ 16:48, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:Then why does this page (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_movie) still talk about Arceus? May I please remove that? [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 03:22, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Bulbapedia is not for theories. And yes, that thing about Arceus should be removed. --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <sc>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]] </sc> 03:30, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Looks like you were right Takoto, Arceus ''is'' in the movie! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 21:57, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== New Pokemon Speculation. ==

Ok, Guys, I just want to say that, those of you still maintaining the site, I'll keep in the part on the Gen V Pokémon reveal speculation until December the 15th, only then, can we determine whether it should be kept in (As most of the info for the movie will be unveiled on that date.), if there is no mention of any Pokémon belonging to the new generation (not even showing a sihlouette, for that matter) then we must remove that tidbit. Got it? good. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 19:49, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

:didn't seribii say it was going to be tommorow? [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 20:39, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
::Strange... the article says that it's December 15th, Oh well... [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 20:58, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
:The default for any speculation is to take it out no matter how much of the fandom believes it, not to leave it an article just because we can't disprove it. You also can't disprove that Nintendo may reveal a Gen VI Pokémon on the same day, but since we have no proof we don't state it. I'm going to delete whatever it is you're talking about unless you can change my mind. [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 20:46, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
:: Can someone upload a picture of the unkown Pokémon siloette from DP104? <sc>I think thats the right Episode </sc> [[User:ShinyPikachu|ShinyPika <3 ALS]] 22:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
: Here are two pics of the electric type. One of them i added an arrow and circle to the part of the pokemon that was showing. I think these are good pics for the page. The original photo is from pokebeach.
[[Image:5th_generation_pokemon.jpg]] [[Image:5th_generation_pokemon_2.jpg]]

[[User:Pikachugal|Pikachugal]] 01:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

==is it just me?==

can anyone see the other pictures here? [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 20:39, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

:What images? If you're referring to the two links above, they were deleted for being copyright violations since they were stolen from [[Pokébeach]], one of them altered. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:28, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

== Eclipse ==

Check it out, the three legendary titans are battling during a total solar eclipse. I'll leave it to others to point out signifigance but it is noteworthy. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 23:18, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:seeing how time and space are probably going to get ripped a new one in this movie that eclipse would be fitting [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 20:48, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
::Oh gawd if anyone makes a "Twilight" reference you will get aura sphered!!![[User:Rucario64|Rucario]][[User Talk:Rucario64|64]] 18:17, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:::wait I just looked on wikipedia and apparantly there's a solar eclipse around the time of it's release [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]]
::::Four days after. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:37, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Japan's too far north to see anything other than a partial eclipse, and the one featured in the movie is a total eclipse. Gonna have to go with a coincidence on this one. {{wp|Solar eclipse of July 22, 2009}}.--- Aura-Knight 15:46, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

== Posters ==

I have the posters needed for this article. And can someone look at the website? They have the specific reading for the kanji now.

<gallery>
Image:Movie12 Poster.jpg|''Toward Overcoming the Space-Time Void'' movie poster
Image:Promo PokemonMovie12.JPG|''Pikachu the Movie'' poster
</gallery>

:Uhm, that Pichu clearly has two ears. One is just partially obscured by Pikachu's head. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 18:06, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::who said anything to the contrary? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 18:15, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::I dunno, I think I saw something on the forums where people were saying it only had one ear or something...but I could have been half-asleep and misreading everything, it's happened before, haha. Anyway, another point that nobody seems to have pointed out yet, the Pichu is on the poster for the Pikachu short, not the movie itself, so it's useless to speculate about what role it might have in the movie. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 18:23, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::You make a good point there... there is no actual confirmation that the Pichu is the Pokémon that was hidden. {{tt|Gen V. is back on!|Perhaps}} [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 18:36, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, I didn't quite say that... There's an overwhelming amount of evidence that the Pichu was indeed the hidden Pokémon, although why they'd want to make a Pichu a "surprise" is beyond me... [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 18:48, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Look at its eyes. They're the same brown as {{tt|another Pokémon on that poster|speculation, speculation...}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:58, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Wow I can't belive that they might just give Pikachu a relative!!! Awsome I can't wait for more info! [[User:Rucario64|Rucario]][[User Talk:Rucario64|64]] 18:28, 14 December 2008 (UT::C)
::::::Pikachu having a relative? More likely its Pikachu when it was a Pichu.--[[User:XNovaXx|XNovaXx]] 00:15, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
That is not a normal Pichu. I looked at about 70 Diffrent pictures of pichu, and none of them have brown eyes. And that's not even mentioning its ear. I'm thinking that this is another species , a second Pokémon that will turn into a normal pikachu, from Gen V.--[[User:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] 17:38, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

[http://yfrog.com/4r36166472p Full quality-lowres] [http://yfrog.com/1796916901p stretched] [http://yfrog.com/1728980118p stretch more]
Should I upload the English movie poster? Which size? It's in low quality but should suffice until it's released in full size. --[[User:Coololz352|Coololz352]] 02:08, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

== Nintendo Owned Everyone (Including Me) ==
[[User:LordArceus/"5th Gen"|Nintendo is amazing.]] {{unsigned|LordArceus}}
:Whoops. [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 17:40, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::I must say, they're total jerks for that. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:06, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

== Percent chance of Galactic, importantly Cyrus, appearing? ==

100%? Less? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:31, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:I don't know if they are going to appear in the movie since something like this hasn't happened since the first movie. I could be wrong anyway. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 21:35, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::Considering the fact that Galactic has already appeared in the series and the writers seem to be giving them more screen time/development than most previous teams (relative to their importance in the game, I mean), I feel it's at least worth a second thought that Cyrus will probably appear later in the series instead of in this movie; either that, or the writers are finally going to abandon their unspoken policy of keeping movie canon (mostly) separate from series canon. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 21:44, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::They've got the Spear Key, Adamant and Lustrous Orbs. Movie 12 obviously takes place in an area inspired by Greece (Spear Pillar) and features Arceus. They know we were disappointed in the hour special they laid out for Groudon and Kyogre, so they want to remedy it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:08, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::But usually stories like these culminate in the series not in a movie. Bar the first one, Movies and series are most of the time entirely disjoined. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 22:13, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::But like I said, the writers have been pretty ambitious this series--maybe they've decided to go ahead and tie a theatrical release directly to the show. I just think we need to weigh both possibilities equally and not assume that Cyrus will be in it just because the dragon trio will be (and possibly Arceus) until we get more information. Although, they could settle for a happy medium of sorts, something like having Cyrus appear in the movie but never in the series, and just have the Galactic admins make allusions to him in the series. I think it's pretty up-in-the-air right now; considering the fact that the previous two movies have involved members of the dragon trio without involving Cyrus, it's not like it would be impossible for them to pull off a movie featuring them and Arceus and not include Cyrus. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 22:27, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Did they appear in the first two? Survey says: Nope! The battle has nothing to do with Cyrus and his flunkies anyway [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 22:32, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::You know that Cyrus's debut wasn't till AFTER the movie premiered, right?- ''unsigned comment from [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:::::That's true...didn't consider that. But I still think it's possible for them to pull off a plot about the dragon trio and Arceus without him. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 22:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Meh, never stopped them before [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 22:47, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::That's highly likely to include Team Galactic and Cyrus, not to mention the fact that it can also boost tickets sales! -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 09:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::The only thing I can see that may boost ticket sales is the inevitable Arceus giveaway. Besides, Pokémon was unphased by going up against Studio Ghibli this year so it doesn't really need help on the popularity front.
:::::::::Team Magma were in six and while I can see them having that role, a plotline started in the series should conclude in the series. We'll probably be around the start of the league tournament by July anyway. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 09:42, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Darkrai popped back up in the show so why not Arceus. Then Cyrus could try to control it.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:24, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

the anime is soon coming out the episode that involves spear pillar and galactic, so it is a possibility [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:26, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Can we please ==

Can we please put Piplup on the cast sheet? You know it's going to be there. And please don't give me the "unconfirmed" lecture. It was in the first two movies, is featured on the poster for this and the previous Pikachu movie. I get why you might not want it for the regular episodes but, come on now... There is really no good reason it wouldn't appear. Do you really think after all the writers have done with Piplup so far that there really going to make it skip a movie appearance? Or are you going to get all mad at me if I add it on the cast sheet? Face it, Piplup IS the new Togepi. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 09:59, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind. Found out officially that it's in the movie. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:06, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:It's better than Togepi, believe me. At least it does something. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:13, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

maybe theres something hint on there maybe but its looks like similat to zelda twiligth princess.......--[[User:Bakunawa|Bakunawa]] 10:16, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

You know, even IF I did want it to appear in the episodes, we still should wait for more information in regards to whether Piplup is actually appearing or not. For all we know, the poster could have just misled us. It's not like they haven't done that before [cough, cough, cough, cough, [[Palkia (anime)|Palkia]], [[Giratina and the Sky Warrior|Sky Warrior]] poster cough, cough, cough, cough] [cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, [[Brock's Marshtomp|Mudkip]] and [[Ash's Sceptile|Treecko]] in [[Jirachi: Wish Maker|Jirachi poster]] cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, cough]. I won't argue that it should be erased, since, as you said, it's officially confirmed. However, for episodes, we DEFINITELY need to wait until the the previews at least before we add in Piplup. I mean, should we add in Wobbuffet in every single pokemon episode that's upcoming just because it appears in a lot of the episodes? Because that would be the same thing. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 20:50, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:I was referring to the trailer, not the poster. Piplup was in the trailer. And Wobbuffet hasn't been in the anime for nearly 50 episodes straight without an absence. Piplup has. It's not just the number of episodes its appeared in. It's the consistency. Wobbuffet is in a lot of episodes but will be absent once every 10 or 15 episodes. Each week that passes, Piplup gets confirmed for yet another episode and some still wanna believe that its all of a sudden not going to appear next week. Besides, Wobbuffet belongs to an antagonist who are not the absolute central point of the anime like the heroes are. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:22, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::Trailer is misleading too! Not every scene in the trailer are included in the movie, for instance, the Pidgeot in movie 10 trailer. I agree with Weedle.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 05:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::Meowth belonged to the Antagonists, as well, and yet that never stopped people from adding in his name before. I'm not saying that Piplup shouldn't be in any episodes, I'm actually more neutral to the debate. All I'm saying that it still needs more information. And I still don't see too much of a difference between Piplup appearing and Wobbuffet appearing. I mean, at least with Pikachu, Meowth, and up until "A Togepi Mirage", Togepi, they weren't in pokeballs, so their appearances were definitely a given. Piplup, no matter how many appearances it's made in a way similar to Pikachu and Meowth, is still a pokeball pokemon that makes multiple appearances in episodes, not unlike Wobbuffet, in one sense. Unlike Piplup, Wobbuffet still doesn't get inserted into the cast pokemon of the episode [or rather, people aren't trying to insert it in.]. Basically, what I'm saying is that we shouldn't be too hasty to add in Piplup before we have undeniable proof that it's in. I mean, I don't add in Wobbuffet to the pokemon appearing in every upcoming episode, and you don't either, so what makes Piplup any different? [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 22:22, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

:::Okay... appearently you haven't read anything I said to why Piplup should be treated different than Wobbuffet. <big><big>NEARLY 50 EPISODES STRAIGHT WITHOUT AN ABSCENCE.</big></big> That's why Piplup should be added in automatically. It be different if Piplup was absent every few episodes during this span but it wasn't. Wobbuffet has never appeared for 50 episodes without an absence. As for Meowth, he's an antagonist in himself. He really doesn't belong to anyone like Wobbuffet does. And he's actually appeared in every episode. Not like Wobbuffet. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:53, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== Merchandise ==

Any way we can work this into the article, other than saying "Something something, featuring Monferno, Bronzong, Staraptor, and Heatran, prompting fan speculation that [[Ash]]'s {{AP|Chimchar}} and {{AP|Staravia}} will evolve and Brock/Dawn will capture a Bronzong something something Heatran's role." --- Aura-Knight 22:24, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

:......I would at least suspect the character of the movie to have a Bronzong.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 07:59, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

== Pichu ==

On the page, it says "a Pichu with spiked ears" whereas everywhere else, it says "notched ear" I know it's a bit nit-picky but this does seem like the more official term.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 23:54, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:More official? Both terms are '''[[fanon]]'''! -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 05:40, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:The former or the latter of which you said? --[[User:Bulbapedian|Bulbapedian]] - [[User talk:Bulbapedian|Talk]] 23:57, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
::Did. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 00:04, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

== Heartran ==

serebii.net said Heatran involve this thing 12 movie...........--[[User:Bakunawa|Bakunawa]] 06:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:......Here you're in the best Pokémon Encyclopedia '''ever'''! Serebii is a site full of speculation! -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 07:57, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:I'm not to sure but I guess that Serebii's information doesn't qualify as sure evidence here.--'''[[User:Diby|Di]][[User talk:Diby|b]][[Special:Contributions/Diby|y]]''' 06:55, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

I have searched for the corocoro issue of jan 19 but the content of that issue is about megaman and the revivl of one of its series, so was the info date wrong?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 15:20, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== World Hobbo Fair ==
shouldn't the legendary pokemon have been revealed on the 19th? if it was, why doesn't Bulbanews have the info.? [[User:Vik0z0z|Vik0z0z]] 21:22, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
:There wasn't anything revealed at the fair. It would have been up if it was. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 21:27, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I think I have an explanation for that, the world hobby fair is moving around in different cities like tokyo and nagua and others, so the news will be released at the world hobby fair but with an unknown date and city.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:34, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

== Official Arceus ==

Guys, there's a link on the page to {{p|Arceus}}. Since there's already been THAT hint with the magazine, shouldn't the link be put there(and the page to be started) when we get something official? Plus, we just might have to watch out for any possible "funny business" around the {{p|Arceus}} when there's still NOTHING official...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 01:50, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:So you're saying the link shouldn't be should unless we make a page about {{p|Arceus}}, But we can't because we have nothing more than a mere magazine hint? I'm just confused.....--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]-[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 01:53, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm saying that we shouldn't have the link there until anything official. When something official pops up, sure we party, Arceus is revealed, an admin puts the link and someone should starts a decent article if there's at 100-something words of info. To be even MORE CLEAR, someone removes the link, something official pops up, the link is put there and the article on it is started if enough info to make it even a decent stub is put there.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 01:58, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:Wikis put links to pages that haven't yet been created so someone can know to create them. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:57, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I meant that the link to the uncreated Arceus (anime) article should be removed from the page, until official news, even though its very likely to happen. The link should be put on the page and the Arceus (anime) page should be started when we get official news. Official news!--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 13:50, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:The link doesn't matter. If you're looking for something official that confirms that Arceus will appear in the movie, it's the calendar. Let's just wait until someone who knows more about the upcoming star of the movie starts the page. --×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 13:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Then again... the calendar IS official. It could a hidden confirmation cause Nintendo wants to reveal the {{tt|Alpha Pokémon|Arceus is the Alpha Pokémon, for people who apparently forgot.....}} in a special way. That's it! We keep it on there! More info is bound to come any time now, any minute now... you get it, I guess it really should be kept on the page.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 14:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

OMG! Arceus has been revealed and it has been revealed to be the star of the 12th movie! [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Official_Arceus_image_surfaces '''''HERE!'''''] We be partying! Party... party... okay, I'm done... anyway, we can make the {{p|Arceus}} article either now, or later, I'm thinking "freely" right now! I guess we'll just put the future event template if we start it now...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 05:37, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:We don't have any information on the one appearing in the movie yet, but that likely comes this week or next week. All that's know is that it IS in the movie. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

== New name? ==
In [http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090211_film12_02.jpg this scan], if I am not worng, the new title of the movie is "Arceus: To the Conquering of Space-Time" --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <sc>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]]</sc> 15:26, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:You are right, but Bulbapedia wants to be sure and wait for better scans.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 17:45, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::I don't think it's really needed... even if the scan's quality is poor, we can clearly see that ''Arceus'' was added to the movie's title... - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] 17:50, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I think it's good enough to move the page. Even Serebii is reporting the new title. [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 17:55, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::::This is what happens when admins are protecting almost every page for every smallest reason. The Bulbapedia CAN'T BE UP TO DATE because of this. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 18:09, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well a reason a lot of the pages are protected is so people don't just start editing things in that might turn out to not be true. It sucks to have to lock them, yes, but it's still best to wait until some information is pretty obvious before editing it in. [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 18:25, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::The need to have the page up-to-date > The risk of having a n00b posting fake informations. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 18:46, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::hold on, I taught the name of it had - instead of : [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 20:30, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::In Japanese characters, there's only a hollow between "Arceus" and the old title. In all the other titles, we used ":" in similar cases. - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] 20:32, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

== Johto Starters ==

After the recent revealing of the Coro Coro scans, I believe Cyndaquil, Torchic, and Totodile should be added to the "Featured Pokémon" section.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|StarLeged}} ([[User talk:StarLeged|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/StarLeged|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

How do we know Johto starters are in this???

GSDS hints anyone??? [[User:Super Max|'''Super''']][[Special:Contributions/Super Max|'''-''']][[User talk:Super Max|'''Max''']] 21:44, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:It's Chikorita and its on the scsn on Serebii.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 21:47, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

OH, that's so unfair, I thought they were new ones, linked to a hint to GSDS, but sadly the ones in that clip are just Ash's that he caught in the Johto region. He probably had them transfered from Proffesor Oak. (Please let him get rid of Gliscor) [[User:Super Max|'''Super''']][[Special:Contributions/Super Max|'''-''']][[User talk:Super Max|'''Max''']] 21:51, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

:Just FYI, they're not Ash's pokémon (Ash's Chikorita evolved, remember?) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 21:53, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Mew came along and devolved it???
I hate this, I really want GSDS, but something tells me, they are covering so much of Johto so they don't have to do a remake.
[[User:Super Max|'''Super''']][[Special:Contributions/Super Max|'''-''']][[User talk:Super Max|'''Max''']] 21:55, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Exactly--[[User:Sludge|Sludge]] 21:54, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

::(ECx2)Everything is a GSDS hint, isn't it.... What happened to waiting until the movie was released? Pikachu and Piplup are on the poster too, but they aren't mentioned. Just. Wait. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 21:57, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

OMG, your saying Piplup is in the 12th movie as well? Wait a minute, Piplup is a water type pokemon, Johto has water type pokemon. OMG, another hint. LOL [[User:Super Max|'''Super''']][[Special:Contributions/Super Max|'''-''']][[User talk:Super Max|'''Max''']] 21:59, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

:Correct me if I'm mistaken, but didn't they end up covering a lot of the Gen III pokemon/Gen IV pokemon near the end of Johto and the Kanto Battle Frontier, respectively, not to mention the fact that they covered a lot on Kanto in AG (even going as far as to hold the BF in Kanto instead of holding it on that Island near Hoenn.) and they still advertised the fact that the FR/LG remakes were coming out?

Another thing, No, we aren't going that far. Besides, using Piplup is not the same thing as having... ohh, not just one Gen II pokemon have a major role in a movie, but apparantly having '''four''' Gen II pokemon have major roles in the movie.[[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 22:01, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

4neeums (Forums).--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 22:02, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

I have said since the first day i found out about Battle Frontier in Platinum, I said THE ANIME WILL HOST THE BF IN JOHTO. And it looks like that is a fact (him and Dawn willl go there, Dawn because of what May told her Contests, Ash for the BF), hopefully that means the games will also do a johto. I just hope there is no Kanto in GSDS, otherwise Kanto would have been in every generation [[User:Super Max|'''Super''']][[Special:Contributions/Super Max|'''-''']][[User talk:Super Max|'''Max''']] 22:04, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:*points to {{u|CoolPikachu!}}'s comment above*--[[Flash Fire (ability)|freezing]][[Heat Wave (move)|COLD]] ([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 22:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

what about Heatran, who was also in the poster? --[[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:12, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

== i have a point ==

First of all, I would like to point out to the comment above mentioning that Heatrans also on the poster. Also, shouldn't the title be renamed to "The Conquering of Space and Time"? There's no "To" anywhere in the text. And also, yes, Space and Time is written as Space-Time...but it should be translated to Space '''AND''' Time. It's like how you don't see '''THE''' in the title, but it still appears in the translation.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 01:38, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:Hello? Is anyone listening to me?--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 04:25, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::An admin must add Heatran in the list. Regarding the title, I dunno how to translate Japanese. D: ×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 04:57, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Good point, Tavi. Where did the "To" exactly come from? As proven by the meme, "All Your Base are Belong To Us", you can't always directly translate something. Seriously... where DID the "To" come from? Can anyone find out?--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 06:02, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Psh, Heatran. Who cares about that Vader knockoff. JOHTO STAAARTERRRRRS! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:12, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

TTE, I also love Johto and I support GSDS(and of course I see the Johto starters as a hint), and heck, I even downloaded and still playing the hack, ShinyGold... but that was completely off topic. Now can anyone find out what with the "To". I knew the title sounded weird but I didn't think much of it until now.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 06:31, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:The error in the AYB is not in the "To", thus, your example is irrelevant, witness. '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 11:39, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

== Wait. ==

...is spacetime doing the conquering?! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:46, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:It sounds a little ridiculous, but I don't know... the preview didn't feature that, just the dragon trion about to see Arceus come in to stop their fighting or something in that matter...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 09:53, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:A "spacetime of conquering" isn't technically different from a "conquering spacetime", if you keep in mind that "conquering" is an adjective...--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:02, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
I just want to say that I think the current translation of the title on BP doesn't make much sense. --[[User:Argy|Argy]] 08:41, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:Whatever happened to ''Arceus: The Conquering of Space-Time''? --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 11:04, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::I think it was changed to a more literal translation. I have to agree with Argy that the current title is pretty bizarre. It means almost the exact same thing as the previous title, as long as ''Conquering'' is understood to be a {{tt|possesive adjective|Although technically, in the original title, Conquering is a verb, and the last two words can be dropped grammatically, as they are a preposition}} Grammar and English sentence structure is not my strong suit though, so i may be wrong. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 15:37, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:::アルセウス超克の時空へ Arceus: The Conquest of Spacetime or Spacetime's Conquest. I dunno much how Japanese works, but really, literal translations never get you anywhere. Sometimes a different word's used. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:03, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Er, you're translation's sort of...I guess I would call it backwards. ''Chōkoku'' is "conquest" and ''Jikū'' is "spacetime". The の ''no'' comes after the ''Chōkoku'', so that's the word that's possessive. Technically, the title is "conquest's spacetime" or "spacetime of conquest". However, the へ ''e'' is a directional particle, so it has to be something like "to a spacetime of conquest."--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:14, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Main screen turn on? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:29, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
I think the current title is the least ridiculous-sounding one which still means the same as the original Japanese. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 18:49, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

== Image ==

Here's an image of Heatran and the Johot starters. Add it if you want. [[Image:Movie 12 heatran johto.png|thumb]] *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 09:40, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Johto_in_Movie_12.png That's a duplicate file]! ×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 09:45, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

CAN we plaese add the picture {{unsigned|Vik0z0z}}

== English voice actors ==

Can we add them since we know who they are already ? [[User:Livinlarge18|Livinlarge18]] 17:06, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:HOW can we know the English voice actors if the VA's haven't been released for Japan yet?--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 17:27, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::{{tt|WELL|pulling your chain...}}, assuming everyone's not fired, we know who is doing the voices of the major characters right now. Stands to reason that they should still be around in a year or so when the dubbed version is released. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 22:02, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:::If we had assumed that for Movie 9 when it was announced, we'd be wrong. No. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== Error ==

On the page it says [[Giratina (anime)|{{color|FF0000|gi}}{{color|DDDD00|R}}{{color|FF0000|atina}}]]. It should say [[Giratina (anime)|{{color|DDDD00|gi}}{{color|FF0000|R}}{{color|DDDD00|atina}}]]. Glitchym1[[User:Glitchym1|Mglitch]] 16:45, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:Same mistake with Shaymin.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:35, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

::You're both wrong - the large red letters spell "ARCEUS", and the two leftovers (Giratina and Palkia) have large yellow letters instead. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 19:38, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

:::Actually, I would change it though, to maybe like say the "singular red letters" or make the excluded names' red colours be something else like blue or green, or even take those names out completely, I mean there is only 8 names there and there are 12 months. What harm would having 6 names there? [[User:Smashbrother101|Smashbrother101]] 20:10, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

== Final poster ==

See Bulbanews.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 00:04, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

== Trailer ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwUpivwwHvM

Should the trailer be added somewhere? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 01:33, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

::I dunno...can you really trust trailers? Points to the 8th movie trailer - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Riggins}} ([[User talk:Riggins|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Riggins|contribs]]) ''
::Added as in the information provided? We should probably wait until www.pokemon-movie.jp is updated. There are no trailer links on any other movie pages, so that wouldn't be needed if that's what you meant. [[User:Ryuartyi|Ryuartyi]] 04:25, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

From http://www.pokemon-movie.jp:

:Ash and friends arrive in a town called Michiina to see its landmark ancient ruins. Next to some of the ruins is a beautiful lake. Suddenly, a wave emerges and chases our heroes, forming into a water funnel that surrounds and engulfs them. From within, a girl's voice yells, "Dialga, I beg you!" Dialga appears. [The summary doesn't say what happens to Dialga, but it implies that the funnel dissipates, which means Dialga probably leaves.]

:The girl is named Sheena and she protects the ruins. She can also read the hearts of Pokemon. She invites Ash and friends to the ruins and explains to them a "Time and Space Law" and how Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina relate to this law. She also talks about an old myth of Michiina. The myth states that Arceus created all things and in the ancient past saved all Pokemon from a meteor...

--[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 13:19, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
:Someone has got to add the summary. [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 13:00, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

::Summary copy-pasted of Pokébeach. Do not add.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 23:45, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Serebii got better summary than that. We better add summary translated by our {{ut|Urutapu|official Japanese text translator}}. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 05:17, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Oh god please don't give me more work D: (unless it's like, actual text you can copy and paste, it makes things about 20 times faster...)—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:32, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

== Something i just noticed about Giratina ==

Take a look at these two screens from one of the trailers: [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Morgil/giratinatraileroriginforme1.jpg screen 1], [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Morgil/giratinatraileroriginforme2.jpg screen 2]. Notice something? Giratina is in its Original Forme. Since it's doesn't look to be in the reverse world in that scene, it must've either obtained the Griseous Orb, or the anime has come up with some other new explanation that goes against the games (witch they tend to do sometimes) [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 19:22, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
:It might be part of Arceus's destruction of the dimensions! Anyway, don't take it seriously, it's just a trailer, which may not appear at all. And besides, that trailer is under 2008 (''Giratina and the Sky Warrior''), so that scene doesn't matter coz' it may not be part of the actual movie. '''◄[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]►''' 06:40, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

== So, should we create an Article for Movie Arceus? ==

I'm asking because he's playing an important role in the movie, and besides which, we have already found out a lot about him in regards to the manga of that movie. Besides, if we can create articles for Damos, Gishin, and others despite not knowing too much of them at the time, whose to say that we can't let Movie Arceus have an article? [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 11:20, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
:It should have an article, definitely. Question is who's going to make it. [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 11:23, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
::TTE protected it from being created, thus, only admin can do. '''◄[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]►''' 11:25, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Like I said, question is ''who's'' going to make it. None of us, I bet. [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 11:36, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Even if it'll be created, it will be protected for ages. So, I think that's hopeless. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 11:41, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::Just like with everything else movie related that has been protected in the last year, it's so we don't constantly change the page every time something little comes up that was wrong. Just wait untill the movie actually shows. The article will eventually be made like all of the others. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:51, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::Hey, I'm more than willing to wait for it. The problem is, people have already created Damos' and Gishin's articles from the day they were announced, so in order for it to make sense, we may need to make Arceus' article. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 19:48, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Well, I didn't even bother checking for those pages, but oh well. I still say we should wait. And if not, then have a page made and get it protected right away so we don't have way too many edits happening all the time. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 20:56, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

==The twelfth Pokémon Pokémon movie?==

This makes no sense. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 14:25, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

== Movie summary from Pokébeach ==

http://pokebeach.com/2009/07/arceus-movie-summary-heartgold-soulsilver-commercial-13th-pokemon-movie

Among other things;
*[[Notched-ear Pichu]] apparently belongs to [[Damos]]
*[[Palmer]] cameo at the beginning
*Teaser for the 13th movie, apparently [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver versions|HGSS-related]]
[[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 10:45, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:SPOILER ALERT: PIKACHU DIES. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:17, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::ANOTHER SPOILER ALERT: PIKACHU COMES BACK!!!! {{tt|:D|beat that, TTE!}}--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 00:23, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:::SO DID ASH, BUT SO WHAT? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:45, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== What do you think about this? ==

Should the text that says "it is coincidentally or whatever it is, premiered on the 11th anniversary of the first film", anyways should stay where it is or be moved to trivia?--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 05:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus and the Jewel of Life ==

Who said that'd be the English name? --[[User:CuboneKing|CUBONE]] ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) [[Cubone (Pokémon)|PWNS]] 16:57, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:[http://pokebeach.com/2009/08/movie-12-english-title-arceus-and-the-jewel-of-life PokéBeach]. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 17:41, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::I think it should be left at the actual Japanese translation title until we have more sources. Pokébeach has been wrong on several occasions. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 18:33, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I like the way you think, MasterKenobi. I'm moving this back. Unless... anyone else? --[[User:CuboneKing|CUBONE]] ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) [[Cubone (Pokémon)|PWNS]] 18:47, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Thanks. On top of that all the redirects would need to be relinked. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 18:52, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Wait till a more offical source says this kind of thing, Noctowl. --[[User:CuboneKing|CUBONE]] ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) [[Cubone (Pokémon)|PWNS]] 19:25, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

::::::Furthermore, the original source of this title is from Switzerland. That title might not have been drafted by TPCI, and even if it was, it could be a working title and not a finalized title. We should probably wait for an official American announcement before making any page moves. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:35, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::It's said out loud in the end of the trailer (the first video), so I'd say we should use the new given name. We can move it afterwards if they decide to change the dub name later. I'd say the trailer ''is'' official content. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 19:38, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I have one question, was there anything about TPCI there?--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 21:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::No, no mention of TPCI is made in the alleged "official announcement". The English voiceover might have been done by a native of Switzerland. As far as we can tell, "Arceus and the Jewel of Life" is merely a title used at the film festival in question and, while redirectworthy, is in no way the final English title. We really should wait until there's a real official announcement courtesy of TPCI themselves. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:58, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Yea i agree, it might of been a translation error but very unlikely, the title will maybe be announced official by the end of this year.--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 22:01, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

There were people from Nintendo there, so they clearly endorse it. In fact, it would have been illegal for them to play the subbed trailer ''without'' the consent of Nintendo. Therefore, the trailer's content can be considered official because it is licensed/endorsed/whatever by Nintendo. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 22:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

:Staff of the dub? From what I could tell, there were only Japanese staff there...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:06, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::If it wasn't the official English title, Nintendo wouldn't have let the festival call it that in the English subtitles. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 22:10, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

:::Have you ever heard of a "working title"? A working title is a title that is not finalized. And based on the evidence, "Arceus and the Jewel of Life" is a working title, and yet you're insisting that it's the final title simply because it was said in English. For all we know, "Giratina and the Sky Warrior", "The Rise of Darkrai", "Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea", and so on and so forth had different titles earlier on in the English production. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:13, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Even if it's a working title, the page should be moved to that until the final title is revealed, since a working English title is preferable to the final Japanese title on an English wiki. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 22:14, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Official titles are preferable and I doubt TPCI have come up with one yet. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 02:56, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::Since this is an English wiki, the English title is preferable to the Japanese title. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 13:11, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Only if we have an official English title. This... doesn't feel official. And besides, we are not allowed to do anything until the movie airs in the US. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 16:02, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I actually think the page should be protected. --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bon]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|e]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 23:25, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

:::::::::It already is. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:30, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::My bad. --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 23:32, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

== Heracross and Beautifly ==

Shouldn't the Heracross and Beautifly listed among the Pokémon appearing in the movie be allocated to Kanta and Kako? I'd do it myself, but as the page is protected... [[User:Watchermark|Watchermark]] 22:15, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:Done. Cheers. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:20, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== Title Confirmed ==
Pokémon.com confirms "Arceus and the Jewel of Life" and has an English poster. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 00:02, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:Ok did someone change it?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 00:05, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::Since the title's confirmed, could someone unprotect it? [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 18:31, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Sure, let's try that. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:41, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== Poster ==

Image.

[[File:Arceus and the Jewel of Life.jpg|thumb|left|230px|English Poster]]
[[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 04:19, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:A higher resolution copy would be prefered. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:48, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::Unfortunately, that's all Pokemon.com gave us... [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 22:31, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::There are these but they're just stretched and pixelated [http://yfrog.com/4r36166472p current] [http://yfrog.com/1796916901p stretched] [http://yfrog.com/1728980118p stretch more] --[[User:Coololz352|Coololz352]] 23:22, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

== Where are the Johto Starters? ==

Okay, so it's been in the news for months that Chikorita, Totodile, and Cyndaquil are going to appear in the movie. However, in the synopsis and trailers, they are nowhere to be seen. Are they in the real movie, or is there a Pikachu short that they appeared in? In other words, exactly where are they? {{unsigned|Skulblaka Shurtugal}}
:Chikorita and Cyndaquil help Gishin's soldiers prepare food according to [[Gishin's soldiers|this article]]. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' ''http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/skins/common/images/button_sig.png'''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 21:54, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

==Spiky Eared Pichu Cover-Up==
If you check the Movie Poster on www.pokemon.com right now, you'd notice that Pichu has been removed. And now they're advertising this "mysterious Pokemon" that we know is the Spiky Eared Pichu. It's an interesting bit of trivia, I guess.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 01:34, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

== US Realease date REVEALED !!! ==

Hey guys, Pokémon Movie 12 - Arceus and the Jewel of Life is going to release in 2009 (this year), officially confirmed by pokemon.com . I want to edit this page but it is protected (Locked) by admins ( The dark lord trombonator ). So admins please change the US release year and replace SPRING 2010 with 2009 (End of the year). You can check it out yourself, here is the link http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag . Read the full mail bag. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 05:02, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
:Uh, not really. The mailbag guy ''thinks'' it'll air this year... I think we should hold out for something more concrete before it's changed. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:17, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
::''"Actually, we don't just think, we know"'', are you just about that? '''[[User:Myles|Myles]]''' ([[User talk:Myles|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Myles|contrib]]) 05:26, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Zesty Cactus, read the full sentence "Actually, we don't just think, we know". Now tell me what does that mean? --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 06:09, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
::::What do you think it means when an '''official from The Pokémon Company International''' says:''"Actually, we don't just think, we know."'' Duh. If they said that about Heartgold and Soulsilver, ''everyone'' would be all over it. ZestyCactus, it means that it's confirmed. It's obvious. [[User:Alec9|''alec'''9''''']] [[Special:Contributions/Alec9|*]] [[User talk:Alec9|-]] [[Gallade (Pokémon)|*]] 17:02, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

== A theatrical release? ==

Okay, so if the US premier of Arceus and the Jewel of Life is late 2009, and its DVD release is Spring 2010, then why is that? Does that mean that there is going to be a 3-month hiatus between the TV premier and the DVD, or that the movie will be released theatrically in the US as well? After all, there is usually a 3- to 5-month break between a movie and its DVD. Please correct me if I am wrong. {{unsigned|Skulblaka Shurtugal}}
:I doubt it'll get a theatrical release, the difference is probably either a discrepancy in when the movie's gonna come out, or there's gonna be a couple months' gap between the TV premiere and the DVD release. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:55, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
::It was like that with Giratina and the Sky Warrior too. I remember watching it on Cartoon Network when it first premiered, and then the DVD came out a month or so after:

'''Premiere''': Japan July 19, 2008

United States February 13, 2009

'''Home video''': Japan December 19, 2008

United States March 31, 2009

It was actually released in Japanese on DVD months after it was released in English, considering the time inbetween premiere and DVD. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:07, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
:The Rise of Darkrai was aired in February 2008, and the DVD came out in May 2008. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:36, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

== Would this be bad to do? ==

Just to protect the page just for a week? In case people add in false dub names. Or anything else?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 00:00, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

== Australian premire :D ==

This is a Bulbanews article about it and it say it will air at 6pm Australian edst and the 6 nov 2009 (HOORAY)is it worth mentioning? :)[[User:Booker|Booker :)]] 09:14, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah. Somewhere. I'll find a place. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:04, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

thx for that and the other help too :D [[User:Booker|Booker :)]] 09:09, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

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Oh ok i still not to confident about it but i'm learning :) [[User:Booker|yay]] 09:06, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
:I'll point you at our {{bp|signature policy}}, too. Don't just have your sig saying "yay", btw. We need to be able to see your name there to know that it was you that said the comment. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]'''

yep changed it [[User:Booker|Booker :)]] 09:09, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

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Oh ok i still not to confident about it but i'm learning :) [[User:Booker|yay]] 09:06, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
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yep changed it [[User:Booker|Booker :)]] 09:09, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

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Booker: /* Australian premire :D */

== Title translation ==
I'd like to note that 超克の時空 means the Space-Time of Overcoming/Conquering and not the other way around. Even if it doesn't make much sense, this means that "To the Conquering of Space-Time" is wrong and Serebii.net's "Towards The Overcome's Time Space" is the only English translation that seems correct with everyone else seemingly believing PokéBeach.
I think we need to correct this before people memorize the incorrect translation that we apparently see almost everywhere.
As for whether "overcoming" or "conquering", to me "overcoming" sounds more accurate, but I can't say for sure as I'm not a native English speaker. It should be considered that the official movie website has an explanation for the word which says that it means "to overcome difficulties/pain": http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/chokoku/
--[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 13:19, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

:Japanese is amazing eh? Considering ''everyone'' (including Serebii) has changed it to "To the Conquering of Space-Time" (and remember, the previous translation we had was "Towards Overcoming the Space-Time Void") there's either, A: a really bad translation going around, or B: People are all getting this from one source, i.e. the movie poster. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 13:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

::I don't see where you read "To the Conquering of Space-Time" on Serebii.net - I clearly read "Towards The Overcome's Time Space" there. Are you trying to tell us that the poster has an English version of the title? If so, would you kindly point out where exactly I can see this on the poster?! --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 15:02, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:::What I meant was that most people over there are refering to it as such and Serebii himself has said that he is busy for the holidays, so it hasn't been changed yet. This universal translation; just accept it, its tenative anyway, we get the real title in Jan. And also, I can't read a word of Japanese, but if ''hundreds'' of fans can agree on a title, that says something. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 16:22, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

::::I would be willing to accept it as a universal translation, but your reasoning to call it that is pretty flawed. The number of people who can really tell whether the translation is accurate is by far less than "hundreds", most just take what is written and take it as confirmed as long as it isn't corrected. And if you say yourself that you can't read Japanese, why are you taking part in this discussion then? I mean, I don't mind your input, but you don't seem to belong to the people who can validate a translation either. It also isn't as tenative as you seem to think. Going by how Japanese movie titles have been in previous years, the title (and the logo) will be almost the same in its final version, only having a Pokémon name added to it - most likely it will be something like "超克の時空へアルセウス". And that's why we need to work out a more accurate translation as the order of words/kanji in the title can't just be a mistake, or at least it's not safe at all to assume so. Now if nobody else is interested in discussing this, I assume I shouldn't just go about changing the article and moving it. I'd be glad if someone with more knowledge of Japanese could contribute to this discussion. --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 11:28, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

:::::I may not speak Japanese, but the translation Babel Fish (a very popular translation site) gives is "To the Conquering of Space-Time". Of course Babel Fish doesn't always translate well. [[User:Arceus is the Best|Arceus is the Best]] 23:20, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't like babelfish's translations, and agree with nYoo's point that "To the Conquering of Space-Time" is inaccurate, but the truth is the majority always wins. Most English-speaking Pokémon fans know this movie as "To the Conquering of Space-Time", and it would just be confusing to try and find a better translation, especially with the official one so close. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 11:45, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

:: That's why redirects exist. o.o" People could still find it under "To the Conquering of Space-Time" even if the article title is different. --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 03:33, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Stop arguing about it, the English title will be revealed sooner or later anyway! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 22:17, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

doesn't 征服 or 征 mean overcoming, conquering, and subjugation in japanese? are you sure that 超克 means conquering? [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:23, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus ==

I'll clear one thing up before I kick off the main point of the message: I fully believe that a movie featuring Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, and Spear Pillar will feature Arceus. HOWEVER, in the blurb for PikaProj09 on the movie list article (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_movie) it is stated that the movie is "expected to feature Arceus." By whom? By whomever happened to write that sentence. I don't think that should be there until there is some actual proof beyond opinion. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]]
:Opinion... of 90% of the fandom. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Yes, but does that even matter? No doubt we will have it confirmed soon, we can readd it then. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 03:20, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
:Here is a photo that could help with proving Arceus is in the movie. The pic is from pokebeach but they only outlined part of what seems to be part of the "pointed ring" that is showed in the light.I circled the other parts. Looking at it from different angles, sometimes I think i can see its ears and a small part of its head. But that's what i think i saw so i didn't circle it. You can see it very well in the first pic. Since many people say that arceus is in the movie, I'd say this is very good proof.
[[Image:Arceus-comparison.jpg]]

Sorry it is so small as soon as I enlarge it, I will upload it.

Edit:
OK, so here is the enlarged pic, I know the arceus parts are faded, but you can still see the major parts.
[[Image:Arceus-comparison 2.jpg]]

Once I get the trailer, I will be able to upload a MUCH better and clearer picture.
[[User:Pikachugal|Pikachugal]] 02:22, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

:Calm down, friend. Arceus in this movie is too obvius. But IT IS UNCONFIRMED. We just have to wait for an official source --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <sc>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]]</sc> 02:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I just saw the new trailer on the japanese website and i am absolutely entranced by the mysterious golden blur that appears for only like half a second in the middle of the video. [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Morgil/MysteriousGoldenBlur1.jpg] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Morgil/MysteriousGoldenBlur2.jpg] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Morgil/MysteriousGoldenBlur3.jpg] [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 20:56, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

==Naming==
You know, since we don't go moving around every episode to its English title... why don't we move all of the movies to Pikachu Project (year)? Anyone think it'd be a good idea? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

:I dunno, in my opinion it's a bad idea
:does that mean we change all the Pokémon to their national dex number too?----[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 22:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

== Think about it...Makes sense! ==

"''The producers went to Greece in August, 2008; this confirms the basis for the movie's setting.''"
And looking at the above posts about Arceus. Now, I know a little about Myths and things, and remember how many '''gods''' they had in Greece, back in days far gone? Anyone else think that setting a movie in a place were they were once many ''Mythological Gods'' would be a good place for the so called "''God Pokémon''"? C: Just a theory. [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]]| サソデイ 09:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

:Still doesn't make it official. Even if the odds point to Arceus being in the movie, we're waiting until Arceus is actually confirmed to appear in the movie to add that information. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:23, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
::Ah, I said it was 'just a theory' D: I never said it was official! [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]]| サソデイ 16:48, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:Then why does this page (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_movie) still talk about Arceus? May I please remove that? [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 03:22, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Bulbapedia is not for theories. And yes, that thing about Arceus should be removed. --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <sc>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]] </sc> 03:30, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Looks like you were right Takoto, Arceus ''is'' in the movie! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 21:57, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== New Pokemon Speculation. ==

Ok, Guys, I just want to say that, those of you still maintaining the site, I'll keep in the part on the Gen V Pokémon reveal speculation until December the 15th, only then, can we determine whether it should be kept in (As most of the info for the movie will be unveiled on that date.), if there is no mention of any Pokémon belonging to the new generation (not even showing a sihlouette, for that matter) then we must remove that tidbit. Got it? good. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 19:49, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

:didn't seribii say it was going to be tommorow? [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 20:39, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
::Strange... the article says that it's December 15th, Oh well... [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 20:58, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
:The default for any speculation is to take it out no matter how much of the fandom believes it, not to leave it an article just because we can't disprove it. You also can't disprove that Nintendo may reveal a Gen VI Pokémon on the same day, but since we have no proof we don't state it. I'm going to delete whatever it is you're talking about unless you can change my mind. [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 20:46, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
:: Can someone upload a picture of the unkown Pokémon siloette from DP104? <sc>I think thats the right Episode </sc> [[User:ShinyPikachu|ShinyPika <3 ALS]] 22:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
: Here are two pics of the electric type. One of them i added an arrow and circle to the part of the pokemon that was showing. I think these are good pics for the page. The original photo is from pokebeach.
[[Image:5th_generation_pokemon.jpg]] [[Image:5th_generation_pokemon_2.jpg]]

[[User:Pikachugal|Pikachugal]] 01:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

==is it just me?==

can anyone see the other pictures here? [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 20:39, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

:What images? If you're referring to the two links above, they were deleted for being copyright violations since they were stolen from [[Pokébeach]], one of them altered. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:28, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

== Eclipse ==

Check it out, the three legendary titans are battling during a total solar eclipse. I'll leave it to others to point out signifigance but it is noteworthy. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 23:18, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:seeing how time and space are probably going to get ripped a new one in this movie that eclipse would be fitting [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 20:48, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
::Oh gawd if anyone makes a "Twilight" reference you will get aura sphered!!![[User:Rucario64|Rucario]][[User Talk:Rucario64|64]] 18:17, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:::wait I just looked on wikipedia and apparantly there's a solar eclipse around the time of it's release [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]]
::::Four days after. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:37, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Japan's too far north to see anything other than a partial eclipse, and the one featured in the movie is a total eclipse. Gonna have to go with a coincidence on this one. {{wp|Solar eclipse of July 22, 2009}}.--- Aura-Knight 15:46, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

== Posters ==

I have the posters needed for this article. And can someone look at the website? They have the specific reading for the kanji now.

<gallery>
Image:Movie12 Poster.jpg|''Toward Overcoming the Space-Time Void'' movie poster
Image:Promo PokemonMovie12.JPG|''Pikachu the Movie'' poster
</gallery>

:Uhm, that Pichu clearly has two ears. One is just partially obscured by Pikachu's head. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 18:06, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::who said anything to the contrary? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 18:15, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::I dunno, I think I saw something on the forums where people were saying it only had one ear or something...but I could have been half-asleep and misreading everything, it's happened before, haha. Anyway, another point that nobody seems to have pointed out yet, the Pichu is on the poster for the Pikachu short, not the movie itself, so it's useless to speculate about what role it might have in the movie. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 18:23, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::You make a good point there... there is no actual confirmation that the Pichu is the Pokémon that was hidden. {{tt|Gen V. is back on!|Perhaps}} [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 18:36, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, I didn't quite say that... There's an overwhelming amount of evidence that the Pichu was indeed the hidden Pokémon, although why they'd want to make a Pichu a "surprise" is beyond me... [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 18:48, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Look at its eyes. They're the same brown as {{tt|another Pokémon on that poster|speculation, speculation...}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:58, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Wow I can't belive that they might just give Pikachu a relative!!! Awsome I can't wait for more info! [[User:Rucario64|Rucario]][[User Talk:Rucario64|64]] 18:28, 14 December 2008 (UT::C)
::::::Pikachu having a relative? More likely its Pikachu when it was a Pichu.--[[User:XNovaXx|XNovaXx]] 00:15, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
That is not a normal Pichu. I looked at about 70 Diffrent pictures of pichu, and none of them have brown eyes. And that's not even mentioning its ear. I'm thinking that this is another species , a second Pokémon that will turn into a normal pikachu, from Gen V.--[[User:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] 17:38, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

[http://yfrog.com/4r36166472p Full quality-lowres] [http://yfrog.com/1796916901p stretched] [http://yfrog.com/1728980118p stretch more]
Should I upload the English movie poster? Which size? It's in low quality but should suffice until it's released in full size. --[[User:Coololz352|Coololz352]] 02:08, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

== Nintendo Owned Everyone (Including Me) ==
[[User:LordArceus/"5th Gen"|Nintendo is amazing.]] {{unsigned|LordArceus}}
:Whoops. [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 17:40, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::I must say, they're total jerks for that. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:06, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

== Percent chance of Galactic, importantly Cyrus, appearing? ==

100%? Less? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:31, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:I don't know if they are going to appear in the movie since something like this hasn't happened since the first movie. I could be wrong anyway. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 21:35, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::Considering the fact that Galactic has already appeared in the series and the writers seem to be giving them more screen time/development than most previous teams (relative to their importance in the game, I mean), I feel it's at least worth a second thought that Cyrus will probably appear later in the series instead of in this movie; either that, or the writers are finally going to abandon their unspoken policy of keeping movie canon (mostly) separate from series canon. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 21:44, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::They've got the Spear Key, Adamant and Lustrous Orbs. Movie 12 obviously takes place in an area inspired by Greece (Spear Pillar) and features Arceus. They know we were disappointed in the hour special they laid out for Groudon and Kyogre, so they want to remedy it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:08, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::But usually stories like these culminate in the series not in a movie. Bar the first one, Movies and series are most of the time entirely disjoined. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 22:13, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::But like I said, the writers have been pretty ambitious this series--maybe they've decided to go ahead and tie a theatrical release directly to the show. I just think we need to weigh both possibilities equally and not assume that Cyrus will be in it just because the dragon trio will be (and possibly Arceus) until we get more information. Although, they could settle for a happy medium of sorts, something like having Cyrus appear in the movie but never in the series, and just have the Galactic admins make allusions to him in the series. I think it's pretty up-in-the-air right now; considering the fact that the previous two movies have involved members of the dragon trio without involving Cyrus, it's not like it would be impossible for them to pull off a movie featuring them and Arceus and not include Cyrus. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 22:27, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Did they appear in the first two? Survey says: Nope! The battle has nothing to do with Cyrus and his flunkies anyway [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 22:32, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::You know that Cyrus's debut wasn't till AFTER the movie premiered, right?- ''unsigned comment from [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:::::That's true...didn't consider that. But I still think it's possible for them to pull off a plot about the dragon trio and Arceus without him. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 22:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Meh, never stopped them before [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 22:47, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::That's highly likely to include Team Galactic and Cyrus, not to mention the fact that it can also boost tickets sales! -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 09:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::The only thing I can see that may boost ticket sales is the inevitable Arceus giveaway. Besides, Pokémon was unphased by going up against Studio Ghibli this year so it doesn't really need help on the popularity front.
:::::::::Team Magma were in six and while I can see them having that role, a plotline started in the series should conclude in the series. We'll probably be around the start of the league tournament by July anyway. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 09:42, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Darkrai popped back up in the show so why not Arceus. Then Cyrus could try to control it.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:24, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

the anime is soon coming out the episode that involves spear pillar and galactic, so it is a possibility [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:26, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Can we please ==

Can we please put Piplup on the cast sheet? You know it's going to be there. And please don't give me the "unconfirmed" lecture. It was in the first two movies, is featured on the poster for this and the previous Pikachu movie. I get why you might not want it for the regular episodes but, come on now... There is really no good reason it wouldn't appear. Do you really think after all the writers have done with Piplup so far that there really going to make it skip a movie appearance? Or are you going to get all mad at me if I add it on the cast sheet? Face it, Piplup IS the new Togepi. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 09:59, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind. Found out officially that it's in the movie. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:06, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:It's better than Togepi, believe me. At least it does something. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:13, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

maybe theres something hint on there maybe but its looks like similat to zelda twiligth princess.......--[[User:Bakunawa|Bakunawa]] 10:16, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

You know, even IF I did want it to appear in the episodes, we still should wait for more information in regards to whether Piplup is actually appearing or not. For all we know, the poster could have just misled us. It's not like they haven't done that before [cough, cough, cough, cough, [[Palkia (anime)|Palkia]], [[Giratina and the Sky Warrior|Sky Warrior]] poster cough, cough, cough, cough] [cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, [[Brock's Marshtomp|Mudkip]] and [[Ash's Sceptile|Treecko]] in [[Jirachi: Wish Maker|Jirachi poster]] cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, cough]. I won't argue that it should be erased, since, as you said, it's officially confirmed. However, for episodes, we DEFINITELY need to wait until the the previews at least before we add in Piplup. I mean, should we add in Wobbuffet in every single pokemon episode that's upcoming just because it appears in a lot of the episodes? Because that would be the same thing. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 20:50, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:I was referring to the trailer, not the poster. Piplup was in the trailer. And Wobbuffet hasn't been in the anime for nearly 50 episodes straight without an absence. Piplup has. It's not just the number of episodes its appeared in. It's the consistency. Wobbuffet is in a lot of episodes but will be absent once every 10 or 15 episodes. Each week that passes, Piplup gets confirmed for yet another episode and some still wanna believe that its all of a sudden not going to appear next week. Besides, Wobbuffet belongs to an antagonist who are not the absolute central point of the anime like the heroes are. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:22, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::Trailer is misleading too! Not every scene in the trailer are included in the movie, for instance, the Pidgeot in movie 10 trailer. I agree with Weedle.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 05:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::Meowth belonged to the Antagonists, as well, and yet that never stopped people from adding in his name before. I'm not saying that Piplup shouldn't be in any episodes, I'm actually more neutral to the debate. All I'm saying that it still needs more information. And I still don't see too much of a difference between Piplup appearing and Wobbuffet appearing. I mean, at least with Pikachu, Meowth, and up until "A Togepi Mirage", Togepi, they weren't in pokeballs, so their appearances were definitely a given. Piplup, no matter how many appearances it's made in a way similar to Pikachu and Meowth, is still a pokeball pokemon that makes multiple appearances in episodes, not unlike Wobbuffet, in one sense. Unlike Piplup, Wobbuffet still doesn't get inserted into the cast pokemon of the episode [or rather, people aren't trying to insert it in.]. Basically, what I'm saying is that we shouldn't be too hasty to add in Piplup before we have undeniable proof that it's in. I mean, I don't add in Wobbuffet to the pokemon appearing in every upcoming episode, and you don't either, so what makes Piplup any different? [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 22:22, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

:::Okay... appearently you haven't read anything I said to why Piplup should be treated different than Wobbuffet. <big><big>NEARLY 50 EPISODES STRAIGHT WITHOUT AN ABSCENCE.</big></big> That's why Piplup should be added in automatically. It be different if Piplup was absent every few episodes during this span but it wasn't. Wobbuffet has never appeared for 50 episodes without an absence. As for Meowth, he's an antagonist in himself. He really doesn't belong to anyone like Wobbuffet does. And he's actually appeared in every episode. Not like Wobbuffet. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:53, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== Merchandise ==

Any way we can work this into the article, other than saying "Something something, featuring Monferno, Bronzong, Staraptor, and Heatran, prompting fan speculation that [[Ash]]'s {{AP|Chimchar}} and {{AP|Staravia}} will evolve and Brock/Dawn will capture a Bronzong something something Heatran's role." --- Aura-Knight 22:24, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

:......I would at least suspect the character of the movie to have a Bronzong.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 07:59, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

== Pichu ==

On the page, it says "a Pichu with spiked ears" whereas everywhere else, it says "notched ear" I know it's a bit nit-picky but this does seem like the more official term.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 23:54, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:More official? Both terms are '''[[fanon]]'''! -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 05:40, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:The former or the latter of which you said? --[[User:Bulbapedian|Bulbapedian]] - [[User talk:Bulbapedian|Talk]] 23:57, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
::Did. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 00:04, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

== Heartran ==

serebii.net said Heatran involve this thing 12 movie...........--[[User:Bakunawa|Bakunawa]] 06:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:......Here you're in the best Pokémon Encyclopedia '''ever'''! Serebii is a site full of speculation! -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 07:57, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:I'm not to sure but I guess that Serebii's information doesn't qualify as sure evidence here.--'''[[User:Diby|Di]][[User talk:Diby|b]][[Special:Contributions/Diby|y]]''' 06:55, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

I have searched for the corocoro issue of jan 19 but the content of that issue is about megaman and the revivl of one of its series, so was the info date wrong?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 15:20, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== World Hobbo Fair ==
shouldn't the legendary pokemon have been revealed on the 19th? if it was, why doesn't Bulbanews have the info.? [[User:Vik0z0z|Vik0z0z]] 21:22, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
:There wasn't anything revealed at the fair. It would have been up if it was. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 21:27, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I think I have an explanation for that, the world hobby fair is moving around in different cities like tokyo and nagua and others, so the news will be released at the world hobby fair but with an unknown date and city.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:34, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

== Official Arceus ==

Guys, there's a link on the page to {{p|Arceus}}. Since there's already been THAT hint with the magazine, shouldn't the link be put there(and the page to be started) when we get something official? Plus, we just might have to watch out for any possible "funny business" around the {{p|Arceus}} when there's still NOTHING official...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 01:50, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:So you're saying the link shouldn't be should unless we make a page about {{p|Arceus}}, But we can't because we have nothing more than a mere magazine hint? I'm just confused.....--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]-[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 01:53, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm saying that we shouldn't have the link there until anything official. When something official pops up, sure we party, Arceus is revealed, an admin puts the link and someone should starts a decent article if there's at 100-something words of info. To be even MORE CLEAR, someone removes the link, something official pops up, the link is put there and the article on it is started if enough info to make it even a decent stub is put there.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 01:58, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:Wikis put links to pages that haven't yet been created so someone can know to create them. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:57, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I meant that the link to the uncreated Arceus (anime) article should be removed from the page, until official news, even though its very likely to happen. The link should be put on the page and the Arceus (anime) page should be started when we get official news. Official news!--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 13:50, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:The link doesn't matter. If you're looking for something official that confirms that Arceus will appear in the movie, it's the calendar. Let's just wait until someone who knows more about the upcoming star of the movie starts the page. --×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 13:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Then again... the calendar IS official. It could a hidden confirmation cause Nintendo wants to reveal the {{tt|Alpha Pokémon|Arceus is the Alpha Pokémon, for people who apparently forgot.....}} in a special way. That's it! We keep it on there! More info is bound to come any time now, any minute now... you get it, I guess it really should be kept on the page.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 14:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

OMG! Arceus has been revealed and it has been revealed to be the star of the 12th movie! [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Official_Arceus_image_surfaces '''''HERE!'''''] We be partying! Party... party... okay, I'm done... anyway, we can make the {{p|Arceus}} article either now, or later, I'm thinking "freely" right now! I guess we'll just put the future event template if we start it now...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 05:37, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:We don't have any information on the one appearing in the movie yet, but that likely comes this week or next week. All that's know is that it IS in the movie. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

== New name? ==
In [http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090211_film12_02.jpg this scan], if I am not worng, the new title of the movie is "Arceus: To the Conquering of Space-Time" --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <sc>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]]</sc> 15:26, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:You are right, but Bulbapedia wants to be sure and wait for better scans.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 17:45, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::I don't think it's really needed... even if the scan's quality is poor, we can clearly see that ''Arceus'' was added to the movie's title... - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] 17:50, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I think it's good enough to move the page. Even Serebii is reporting the new title. [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 17:55, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::::This is what happens when admins are protecting almost every page for every smallest reason. The Bulbapedia CAN'T BE UP TO DATE because of this. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 18:09, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well a reason a lot of the pages are protected is so people don't just start editing things in that might turn out to not be true. It sucks to have to lock them, yes, but it's still best to wait until some information is pretty obvious before editing it in. [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 18:25, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::The need to have the page up-to-date > The risk of having a n00b posting fake informations. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 18:46, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::hold on, I taught the name of it had - instead of : [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 20:30, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::In Japanese characters, there's only a hollow between "Arceus" and the old title. In all the other titles, we used ":" in similar cases. - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] 20:32, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

== Johto Starters ==

After the recent revealing of the Coro Coro scans, I believe Cyndaquil, Torchic, and Totodile should be added to the "Featured Pokémon" section.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|StarLeged}} ([[User talk:StarLeged|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/StarLeged|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

How do we know Johto starters are in this???

GSDS hints anyone??? [[User:Super Max|'''Super''']][[Special:Contributions/Super Max|'''-''']][[User talk:Super Max|'''Max''']] 21:44, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:It's Chikorita and its on the scsn on Serebii.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 21:47, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

OH, that's so unfair, I thought they were new ones, linked to a hint to GSDS, but sadly the ones in that clip are just Ash's that he caught in the Johto region. He probably had them transfered from Proffesor Oak. (Please let him get rid of Gliscor) [[User:Super Max|'''Super''']][[Special:Contributions/Super Max|'''-''']][[User talk:Super Max|'''Max''']] 21:51, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

:Just FYI, they're not Ash's pokémon (Ash's Chikorita evolved, remember?) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 21:53, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Mew came along and devolved it???
I hate this, I really want GSDS, but something tells me, they are covering so much of Johto so they don't have to do a remake.
[[User:Super Max|'''Super''']][[Special:Contributions/Super Max|'''-''']][[User talk:Super Max|'''Max''']] 21:55, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Exactly--[[User:Sludge|Sludge]] 21:54, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

::(ECx2)Everything is a GSDS hint, isn't it.... What happened to waiting until the movie was released? Pikachu and Piplup are on the poster too, but they aren't mentioned. Just. Wait. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 21:57, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

OMG, your saying Piplup is in the 12th movie as well? Wait a minute, Piplup is a water type pokemon, Johto has water type pokemon. OMG, another hint. LOL [[User:Super Max|'''Super''']][[Special:Contributions/Super Max|'''-''']][[User talk:Super Max|'''Max''']] 21:59, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

:Correct me if I'm mistaken, but didn't they end up covering a lot of the Gen III pokemon/Gen IV pokemon near the end of Johto and the Kanto Battle Frontier, respectively, not to mention the fact that they covered a lot on Kanto in AG (even going as far as to hold the BF in Kanto instead of holding it on that Island near Hoenn.) and they still advertised the fact that the FR/LG remakes were coming out?

Another thing, No, we aren't going that far. Besides, using Piplup is not the same thing as having... ohh, not just one Gen II pokemon have a major role in a movie, but apparantly having '''four''' Gen II pokemon have major roles in the movie.[[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 22:01, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

4neeums (Forums).--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 22:02, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

I have said since the first day i found out about Battle Frontier in Platinum, I said THE ANIME WILL HOST THE BF IN JOHTO. And it looks like that is a fact (him and Dawn willl go there, Dawn because of what May told her Contests, Ash for the BF), hopefully that means the games will also do a johto. I just hope there is no Kanto in GSDS, otherwise Kanto would have been in every generation [[User:Super Max|'''Super''']][[Special:Contributions/Super Max|'''-''']][[User talk:Super Max|'''Max''']] 22:04, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:*points to {{u|CoolPikachu!}}'s comment above*--[[Flash Fire (ability)|freezing]][[Heat Wave (move)|COLD]] ([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 22:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

what about Heatran, who was also in the poster? --[[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:12, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

== i have a point ==

First of all, I would like to point out to the comment above mentioning that Heatrans also on the poster. Also, shouldn't the title be renamed to "The Conquering of Space and Time"? There's no "To" anywhere in the text. And also, yes, Space and Time is written as Space-Time...but it should be translated to Space '''AND''' Time. It's like how you don't see '''THE''' in the title, but it still appears in the translation.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 01:38, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:Hello? Is anyone listening to me?--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 04:25, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::An admin must add Heatran in the list. Regarding the title, I dunno how to translate Japanese. D: ×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 04:57, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Good point, Tavi. Where did the "To" exactly come from? As proven by the meme, "All Your Base are Belong To Us", you can't always directly translate something. Seriously... where DID the "To" come from? Can anyone find out?--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 06:02, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Psh, Heatran. Who cares about that Vader knockoff. JOHTO STAAARTERRRRRS! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:12, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

TTE, I also love Johto and I support GSDS(and of course I see the Johto starters as a hint), and heck, I even downloaded and still playing the hack, ShinyGold... but that was completely off topic. Now can anyone find out what with the "To". I knew the title sounded weird but I didn't think much of it until now.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 06:31, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:The error in the AYB is not in the "To", thus, your example is irrelevant, witness. '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 11:39, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

== Wait. ==

...is spacetime doing the conquering?! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:46, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:It sounds a little ridiculous, but I don't know... the preview didn't feature that, just the dragon trion about to see Arceus come in to stop their fighting or something in that matter...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 09:53, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:A "spacetime of conquering" isn't technically different from a "conquering spacetime", if you keep in mind that "conquering" is an adjective...--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:02, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
I just want to say that I think the current translation of the title on BP doesn't make much sense. --[[User:Argy|Argy]] 08:41, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:Whatever happened to ''Arceus: The Conquering of Space-Time''? --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 11:04, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::I think it was changed to a more literal translation. I have to agree with Argy that the current title is pretty bizarre. It means almost the exact same thing as the previous title, as long as ''Conquering'' is understood to be a {{tt|possesive adjective|Although technically, in the original title, Conquering is a verb, and the last two words can be dropped grammatically, as they are a preposition}} Grammar and English sentence structure is not my strong suit though, so i may be wrong. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 15:37, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:::アルセウス超克の時空へ Arceus: The Conquest of Spacetime or Spacetime's Conquest. I dunno much how Japanese works, but really, literal translations never get you anywhere. Sometimes a different word's used. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:03, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Er, you're translation's sort of...I guess I would call it backwards. ''Chōkoku'' is "conquest" and ''Jikū'' is "spacetime". The の ''no'' comes after the ''Chōkoku'', so that's the word that's possessive. Technically, the title is "conquest's spacetime" or "spacetime of conquest". However, the へ ''e'' is a directional particle, so it has to be something like "to a spacetime of conquest."--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:14, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Main screen turn on? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:29, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
I think the current title is the least ridiculous-sounding one which still means the same as the original Japanese. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 18:49, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

== Image ==

Here's an image of Heatran and the Johot starters. Add it if you want. [[Image:Movie 12 heatran johto.png|thumb]] *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 09:40, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Johto_in_Movie_12.png That's a duplicate file]! ×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 09:45, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

CAN we plaese add the picture {{unsigned|Vik0z0z}}

== English voice actors ==

Can we add them since we know who they are already ? [[User:Livinlarge18|Livinlarge18]] 17:06, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:HOW can we know the English voice actors if the VA's haven't been released for Japan yet?--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 17:27, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::{{tt|WELL|pulling your chain...}}, assuming everyone's not fired, we know who is doing the voices of the major characters right now. Stands to reason that they should still be around in a year or so when the dubbed version is released. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 22:02, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:::If we had assumed that for Movie 9 when it was announced, we'd be wrong. No. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== Error ==

On the page it says [[Giratina (anime)|{{color|FF0000|gi}}{{color|DDDD00|R}}{{color|FF0000|atina}}]]. It should say [[Giratina (anime)|{{color|DDDD00|gi}}{{color|FF0000|R}}{{color|DDDD00|atina}}]]. Glitchym1[[User:Glitchym1|Mglitch]] 16:45, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:Same mistake with Shaymin.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:35, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

::You're both wrong - the large red letters spell "ARCEUS", and the two leftovers (Giratina and Palkia) have large yellow letters instead. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 19:38, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

:::Actually, I would change it though, to maybe like say the "singular red letters" or make the excluded names' red colours be something else like blue or green, or even take those names out completely, I mean there is only 8 names there and there are 12 months. What harm would having 6 names there? [[User:Smashbrother101|Smashbrother101]] 20:10, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

== Final poster ==

See Bulbanews.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 00:04, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

== Trailer ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwUpivwwHvM

Should the trailer be added somewhere? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 01:33, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

::I dunno...can you really trust trailers? Points to the 8th movie trailer - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Riggins}} ([[User talk:Riggins|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Riggins|contribs]]) ''
::Added as in the information provided? We should probably wait until www.pokemon-movie.jp is updated. There are no trailer links on any other movie pages, so that wouldn't be needed if that's what you meant. [[User:Ryuartyi|Ryuartyi]] 04:25, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

From http://www.pokemon-movie.jp:

:Ash and friends arrive in a town called Michiina to see its landmark ancient ruins. Next to some of the ruins is a beautiful lake. Suddenly, a wave emerges and chases our heroes, forming into a water funnel that surrounds and engulfs them. From within, a girl's voice yells, "Dialga, I beg you!" Dialga appears. [The summary doesn't say what happens to Dialga, but it implies that the funnel dissipates, which means Dialga probably leaves.]

:The girl is named Sheena and she protects the ruins. She can also read the hearts of Pokemon. She invites Ash and friends to the ruins and explains to them a "Time and Space Law" and how Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina relate to this law. She also talks about an old myth of Michiina. The myth states that Arceus created all things and in the ancient past saved all Pokemon from a meteor...

--[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 13:19, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
:Someone has got to add the summary. [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 13:00, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

::Summary copy-pasted of Pokébeach. Do not add.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 23:45, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Serebii got better summary than that. We better add summary translated by our {{ut|Urutapu|official Japanese text translator}}. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 05:17, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Oh god please don't give me more work D: (unless it's like, actual text you can copy and paste, it makes things about 20 times faster...)—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:32, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

== Something i just noticed about Giratina ==

Take a look at these two screens from one of the trailers: [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Morgil/giratinatraileroriginforme1.jpg screen 1], [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Morgil/giratinatraileroriginforme2.jpg screen 2]. Notice something? Giratina is in its Original Forme. Since it's doesn't look to be in the reverse world in that scene, it must've either obtained the Griseous Orb, or the anime has come up with some other new explanation that goes against the games (witch they tend to do sometimes) [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 19:22, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
:It might be part of Arceus's destruction of the dimensions! Anyway, don't take it seriously, it's just a trailer, which may not appear at all. And besides, that trailer is under 2008 (''Giratina and the Sky Warrior''), so that scene doesn't matter coz' it may not be part of the actual movie. '''◄[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]►''' 06:40, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

== So, should we create an Article for Movie Arceus? ==

I'm asking because he's playing an important role in the movie, and besides which, we have already found out a lot about him in regards to the manga of that movie. Besides, if we can create articles for Damos, Gishin, and others despite not knowing too much of them at the time, whose to say that we can't let Movie Arceus have an article? [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 11:20, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
:It should have an article, definitely. Question is who's going to make it. [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 11:23, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
::TTE protected it from being created, thus, only admin can do. '''◄[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]►''' 11:25, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Like I said, question is ''who's'' going to make it. None of us, I bet. [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 11:36, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Even if it'll be created, it will be protected for ages. So, I think that's hopeless. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 11:41, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::Just like with everything else movie related that has been protected in the last year, it's so we don't constantly change the page every time something little comes up that was wrong. Just wait untill the movie actually shows. The article will eventually be made like all of the others. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:51, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::Hey, I'm more than willing to wait for it. The problem is, people have already created Damos' and Gishin's articles from the day they were announced, so in order for it to make sense, we may need to make Arceus' article. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 19:48, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Well, I didn't even bother checking for those pages, but oh well. I still say we should wait. And if not, then have a page made and get it protected right away so we don't have way too many edits happening all the time. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 20:56, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

==The twelfth Pokémon Pokémon movie?==

This makes no sense. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 14:25, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

== Movie summary from Pokébeach ==

http://pokebeach.com/2009/07/arceus-movie-summary-heartgold-soulsilver-commercial-13th-pokemon-movie

Among other things;
*[[Notched-ear Pichu]] apparently belongs to [[Damos]]
*[[Palmer]] cameo at the beginning
*Teaser for the 13th movie, apparently [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver versions|HGSS-related]]
[[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 10:45, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:SPOILER ALERT: PIKACHU DIES. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:17, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::ANOTHER SPOILER ALERT: PIKACHU COMES BACK!!!! {{tt|:D|beat that, TTE!}}--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 00:23, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:::SO DID ASH, BUT SO WHAT? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:45, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== What do you think about this? ==

Should the text that says "it is coincidentally or whatever it is, premiered on the 11th anniversary of the first film", anyways should stay where it is or be moved to trivia?--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 05:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus and the Jewel of Life ==

Who said that'd be the English name? --[[User:CuboneKing|CUBONE]] ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) [[Cubone (Pokémon)|PWNS]] 16:57, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:[http://pokebeach.com/2009/08/movie-12-english-title-arceus-and-the-jewel-of-life PokéBeach]. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 17:41, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::I think it should be left at the actual Japanese translation title until we have more sources. Pokébeach has been wrong on several occasions. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 18:33, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I like the way you think, MasterKenobi. I'm moving this back. Unless... anyone else? --[[User:CuboneKing|CUBONE]] ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) [[Cubone (Pokémon)|PWNS]] 18:47, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Thanks. On top of that all the redirects would need to be relinked. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 18:52, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Wait till a more offical source says this kind of thing, Noctowl. --[[User:CuboneKing|CUBONE]] ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) [[Cubone (Pokémon)|PWNS]] 19:25, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

::::::Furthermore, the original source of this title is from Switzerland. That title might not have been drafted by TPCI, and even if it was, it could be a working title and not a finalized title. We should probably wait for an official American announcement before making any page moves. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:35, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::It's said out loud in the end of the trailer (the first video), so I'd say we should use the new given name. We can move it afterwards if they decide to change the dub name later. I'd say the trailer ''is'' official content. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 19:38, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I have one question, was there anything about TPCI there?--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 21:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::No, no mention of TPCI is made in the alleged "official announcement". The English voiceover might have been done by a native of Switzerland. As far as we can tell, "Arceus and the Jewel of Life" is merely a title used at the film festival in question and, while redirectworthy, is in no way the final English title. We really should wait until there's a real official announcement courtesy of TPCI themselves. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:58, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Yea i agree, it might of been a translation error but very unlikely, the title will maybe be announced official by the end of this year.--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 22:01, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

There were people from Nintendo there, so they clearly endorse it. In fact, it would have been illegal for them to play the subbed trailer ''without'' the consent of Nintendo. Therefore, the trailer's content can be considered official because it is licensed/endorsed/whatever by Nintendo. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 22:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

:Staff of the dub? From what I could tell, there were only Japanese staff there...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:06, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::If it wasn't the official English title, Nintendo wouldn't have let the festival call it that in the English subtitles. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 22:10, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

:::Have you ever heard of a "working title"? A working title is a title that is not finalized. And based on the evidence, "Arceus and the Jewel of Life" is a working title, and yet you're insisting that it's the final title simply because it was said in English. For all we know, "Giratina and the Sky Warrior", "The Rise of Darkrai", "Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea", and so on and so forth had different titles earlier on in the English production. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:13, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Even if it's a working title, the page should be moved to that until the final title is revealed, since a working English title is preferable to the final Japanese title on an English wiki. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 22:14, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Official titles are preferable and I doubt TPCI have come up with one yet. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 02:56, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::Since this is an English wiki, the English title is preferable to the Japanese title. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 13:11, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Only if we have an official English title. This... doesn't feel official. And besides, we are not allowed to do anything until the movie airs in the US. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 16:02, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I actually think the page should be protected. --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bon]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|e]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 23:25, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

:::::::::It already is. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:30, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::My bad. --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 23:32, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

== Heracross and Beautifly ==

Shouldn't the Heracross and Beautifly listed among the Pokémon appearing in the movie be allocated to Kanta and Kako? I'd do it myself, but as the page is protected... [[User:Watchermark|Watchermark]] 22:15, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:Done. Cheers. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:20, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== Title Confirmed ==
Pokémon.com confirms "Arceus and the Jewel of Life" and has an English poster. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 00:02, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:Ok did someone change it?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 00:05, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::Since the title's confirmed, could someone unprotect it? [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 18:31, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Sure, let's try that. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:41, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== Poster ==

Image.

[[File:Arceus and the Jewel of Life.jpg|thumb|left|230px|English Poster]]
[[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 04:19, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:A higher resolution copy would be prefered. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:48, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::Unfortunately, that's all Pokemon.com gave us... [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 22:31, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::There are these but they're just stretched and pixelated [http://yfrog.com/4r36166472p current] [http://yfrog.com/1796916901p stretched] [http://yfrog.com/1728980118p stretch more] --[[User:Coololz352|Coololz352]] 23:22, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

== Where are the Johto Starters? ==

Okay, so it's been in the news for months that Chikorita, Totodile, and Cyndaquil are going to appear in the movie. However, in the synopsis and trailers, they are nowhere to be seen. Are they in the real movie, or is there a Pikachu short that they appeared in? In other words, exactly where are they? {{unsigned|Skulblaka Shurtugal}}
:Chikorita and Cyndaquil help Gishin's soldiers prepare food according to [[Gishin's soldiers|this article]]. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' ''http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/skins/common/images/button_sig.png'''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 21:54, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

==Spiky Eared Pichu Cover-Up==
If you check the Movie Poster on www.pokemon.com right now, you'd notice that Pichu has been removed. And now they're advertising this "mysterious Pokemon" that we know is the Spiky Eared Pichu. It's an interesting bit of trivia, I guess.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 01:34, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

== US Realease date REVEALED !!! ==

Hey guys, Pokémon Movie 12 - Arceus and the Jewel of Life is going to release in 2009 (this year), officially confirmed by pokemon.com . I want to edit this page but it is protected (Locked) by admins ( The dark lord trombonator ). So admins please change the US release year and replace SPRING 2010 with 2009 (End of the year). You can check it out yourself, here is the link http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag . Read the full mail bag. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 05:02, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
:Uh, not really. The mailbag guy ''thinks'' it'll air this year... I think we should hold out for something more concrete before it's changed. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:17, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
::''"Actually, we don't just think, we know"'', are you just about that? '''[[User:Myles|Myles]]''' ([[User talk:Myles|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Myles|contrib]]) 05:26, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Zesty Cactus, read the full sentence "Actually, we don't just think, we know". Now tell me what does that mean? --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 06:09, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
::::What do you think it means when an '''official from The Pokémon Company International''' says:''"Actually, we don't just think, we know."'' Duh. If they said that about Heartgold and Soulsilver, ''everyone'' would be all over it. ZestyCactus, it means that it's confirmed. It's obvious. [[User:Alec9|''alec'''9''''']] [[Special:Contributions/Alec9|*]] [[User talk:Alec9|-]] [[Gallade (Pokémon)|*]] 17:02, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

== A theatrical release? ==

Okay, so if the US premier of Arceus and the Jewel of Life is late 2009, and its DVD release is Spring 2010, then why is that? Does that mean that there is going to be a 3-month hiatus between the TV premier and the DVD, or that the movie will be released theatrically in the US as well? After all, there is usually a 3- to 5-month break between a movie and its DVD. Please correct me if I am wrong. {{unsigned|Skulblaka Shurtugal}}
:I doubt it'll get a theatrical release, the difference is probably either a discrepancy in when the movie's gonna come out, or there's gonna be a couple months' gap between the TV premiere and the DVD release. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:55, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
::It was like that with Giratina and the Sky Warrior too. I remember watching it on Cartoon Network when it first premiered, and then the DVD came out a month or so after:

'''Premiere''': Japan July 19, 2008

United States February 13, 2009

'''Home video''': Japan December 19, 2008

United States March 31, 2009

It was actually released in Japanese on DVD months after it was released in English, considering the time inbetween premiere and DVD. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:07, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
:The Rise of Darkrai was aired in February 2008, and the DVD came out in May 2008. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:36, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

== Would this be bad to do? ==

Just to protect the page just for a week? In case people add in false dub names. Or anything else?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 00:00, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

== Australian premire :D ==

This is a Bulbanews article about it and it say it will air at 6pm Australian edst and the 6 nov 2009 (HOORAY)is it worth mentioning? :)[[User:Booker|Booker]] 08:56 2 November 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah. Somewhere. I'll find a place. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:04, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

thx for that and the other help too :D [[User:Booker|Booker :)]] 09:09, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

User talk:Booker

2009-11-02T09:06:59Z

Booker: /* Heads up */

Talk:M12/Archive 1

2009-11-02T09:03:15Z

Booker: /* Australian premire :D */

== Title translation ==
I'd like to note that 超克の時空 means the Space-Time of Overcoming/Conquering and not the other way around. Even if it doesn't make much sense, this means that "To the Conquering of Space-Time" is wrong and Serebii.net's "Towards The Overcome's Time Space" is the only English translation that seems correct with everyone else seemingly believing PokéBeach.
I think we need to correct this before people memorize the incorrect translation that we apparently see almost everywhere.
As for whether "overcoming" or "conquering", to me "overcoming" sounds more accurate, but I can't say for sure as I'm not a native English speaker. It should be considered that the official movie website has an explanation for the word which says that it means "to overcome difficulties/pain": http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/chokoku/
--[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 13:19, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

:Japanese is amazing eh? Considering ''everyone'' (including Serebii) has changed it to "To the Conquering of Space-Time" (and remember, the previous translation we had was "Towards Overcoming the Space-Time Void") there's either, A: a really bad translation going around, or B: People are all getting this from one source, i.e. the movie poster. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 13:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

::I don't see where you read "To the Conquering of Space-Time" on Serebii.net - I clearly read "Towards The Overcome's Time Space" there. Are you trying to tell us that the poster has an English version of the title? If so, would you kindly point out where exactly I can see this on the poster?! --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 15:02, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:::What I meant was that most people over there are refering to it as such and Serebii himself has said that he is busy for the holidays, so it hasn't been changed yet. This universal translation; just accept it, its tenative anyway, we get the real title in Jan. And also, I can't read a word of Japanese, but if ''hundreds'' of fans can agree on a title, that says something. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 16:22, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

::::I would be willing to accept it as a universal translation, but your reasoning to call it that is pretty flawed. The number of people who can really tell whether the translation is accurate is by far less than "hundreds", most just take what is written and take it as confirmed as long as it isn't corrected. And if you say yourself that you can't read Japanese, why are you taking part in this discussion then? I mean, I don't mind your input, but you don't seem to belong to the people who can validate a translation either. It also isn't as tenative as you seem to think. Going by how Japanese movie titles have been in previous years, the title (and the logo) will be almost the same in its final version, only having a Pokémon name added to it - most likely it will be something like "超克の時空へアルセウス". And that's why we need to work out a more accurate translation as the order of words/kanji in the title can't just be a mistake, or at least it's not safe at all to assume so. Now if nobody else is interested in discussing this, I assume I shouldn't just go about changing the article and moving it. I'd be glad if someone with more knowledge of Japanese could contribute to this discussion. --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 11:28, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

:::::I may not speak Japanese, but the translation Babel Fish (a very popular translation site) gives is "To the Conquering of Space-Time". Of course Babel Fish doesn't always translate well. [[User:Arceus is the Best|Arceus is the Best]] 23:20, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't like babelfish's translations, and agree with nYoo's point that "To the Conquering of Space-Time" is inaccurate, but the truth is the majority always wins. Most English-speaking Pokémon fans know this movie as "To the Conquering of Space-Time", and it would just be confusing to try and find a better translation, especially with the official one so close. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 11:45, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

:: That's why redirects exist. o.o" People could still find it under "To the Conquering of Space-Time" even if the article title is different. --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 03:33, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Stop arguing about it, the English title will be revealed sooner or later anyway! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 22:17, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

doesn't 征服 or 征 mean overcoming, conquering, and subjugation in japanese? are you sure that 超克 means conquering? [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:23, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus ==

I'll clear one thing up before I kick off the main point of the message: I fully believe that a movie featuring Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, and Spear Pillar will feature Arceus. HOWEVER, in the blurb for PikaProj09 on the movie list article (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_movie) it is stated that the movie is "expected to feature Arceus." By whom? By whomever happened to write that sentence. I don't think that should be there until there is some actual proof beyond opinion. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]]
:Opinion... of 90% of the fandom. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Yes, but does that even matter? No doubt we will have it confirmed soon, we can readd it then. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 03:20, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
:Here is a photo that could help with proving Arceus is in the movie. The pic is from pokebeach but they only outlined part of what seems to be part of the "pointed ring" that is showed in the light.I circled the other parts. Looking at it from different angles, sometimes I think i can see its ears and a small part of its head. But that's what i think i saw so i didn't circle it. You can see it very well in the first pic. Since many people say that arceus is in the movie, I'd say this is very good proof.
[[Image:Arceus-comparison.jpg]]

Sorry it is so small as soon as I enlarge it, I will upload it.

Edit:
OK, so here is the enlarged pic, I know the arceus parts are faded, but you can still see the major parts.
[[Image:Arceus-comparison 2.jpg]]

Once I get the trailer, I will be able to upload a MUCH better and clearer picture.
[[User:Pikachugal|Pikachugal]] 02:22, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

:Calm down, friend. Arceus in this movie is too obvius. But IT IS UNCONFIRMED. We just have to wait for an official source --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <sc>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]]</sc> 02:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I just saw the new trailer on the japanese website and i am absolutely entranced by the mysterious golden blur that appears for only like half a second in the middle of the video. [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Morgil/MysteriousGoldenBlur1.jpg] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Morgil/MysteriousGoldenBlur2.jpg] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Morgil/MysteriousGoldenBlur3.jpg] [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 20:56, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

==Naming==
You know, since we don't go moving around every episode to its English title... why don't we move all of the movies to Pikachu Project (year)? Anyone think it'd be a good idea? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

:I dunno, in my opinion it's a bad idea
:does that mean we change all the Pokémon to their national dex number too?----[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamatecharizard]] 22:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

== Think about it...Makes sense! ==

"''The producers went to Greece in August, 2008; this confirms the basis for the movie's setting.''"
And looking at the above posts about Arceus. Now, I know a little about Myths and things, and remember how many '''gods''' they had in Greece, back in days far gone? Anyone else think that setting a movie in a place were they were once many ''Mythological Gods'' would be a good place for the so called "''God Pokémon''"? C: Just a theory. [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]]| サソデイ 09:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

:Still doesn't make it official. Even if the odds point to Arceus being in the movie, we're waiting until Arceus is actually confirmed to appear in the movie to add that information. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:23, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
::Ah, I said it was 'just a theory' D: I never said it was official! [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]]| サソデイ 16:48, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:Then why does this page (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_movie) still talk about Arceus? May I please remove that? [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 03:22, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Bulbapedia is not for theories. And yes, that thing about Arceus should be removed. --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <sc>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]] </sc> 03:30, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Looks like you were right Takoto, Arceus ''is'' in the movie! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 21:57, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== New Pokemon Speculation. ==

Ok, Guys, I just want to say that, those of you still maintaining the site, I'll keep in the part on the Gen V Pokémon reveal speculation until December the 15th, only then, can we determine whether it should be kept in (As most of the info for the movie will be unveiled on that date.), if there is no mention of any Pokémon belonging to the new generation (not even showing a sihlouette, for that matter) then we must remove that tidbit. Got it? good. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 19:49, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

:didn't seribii say it was going to be tommorow? [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 20:39, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
::Strange... the article says that it's December 15th, Oh well... [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 20:58, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
:The default for any speculation is to take it out no matter how much of the fandom believes it, not to leave it an article just because we can't disprove it. You also can't disprove that Nintendo may reveal a Gen VI Pokémon on the same day, but since we have no proof we don't state it. I'm going to delete whatever it is you're talking about unless you can change my mind. [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 20:46, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
:: Can someone upload a picture of the unkown Pokémon siloette from DP104? <sc>I think thats the right Episode </sc> [[User:ShinyPikachu|ShinyPika <3 ALS]] 22:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
: Here are two pics of the electric type. One of them i added an arrow and circle to the part of the pokemon that was showing. I think these are good pics for the page. The original photo is from pokebeach.
[[Image:5th_generation_pokemon.jpg]] [[Image:5th_generation_pokemon_2.jpg]]

[[User:Pikachugal|Pikachugal]] 01:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

==is it just me?==

can anyone see the other pictures here? [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 20:39, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

:What images? If you're referring to the two links above, they were deleted for being copyright violations since they were stolen from [[Pokébeach]], one of them altered. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:28, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

== Eclipse ==

Check it out, the three legendary titans are battling during a total solar eclipse. I'll leave it to others to point out signifigance but it is noteworthy. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 23:18, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:seeing how time and space are probably going to get ripped a new one in this movie that eclipse would be fitting [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 20:48, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
::Oh gawd if anyone makes a "Twilight" reference you will get aura sphered!!![[User:Rucario64|Rucario]][[User Talk:Rucario64|64]] 18:17, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:::wait I just looked on wikipedia and apparantly there's a solar eclipse around the time of it's release [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]]
::::Four days after. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:37, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Japan's too far north to see anything other than a partial eclipse, and the one featured in the movie is a total eclipse. Gonna have to go with a coincidence on this one. {{wp|Solar eclipse of July 22, 2009}}.--- Aura-Knight 15:46, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

== Posters ==

I have the posters needed for this article. And can someone look at the website? They have the specific reading for the kanji now.

<gallery>
Image:Movie12 Poster.jpg|''Toward Overcoming the Space-Time Void'' movie poster
Image:Promo PokemonMovie12.JPG|''Pikachu the Movie'' poster
</gallery>

:Uhm, that Pichu clearly has two ears. One is just partially obscured by Pikachu's head. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 18:06, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::who said anything to the contrary? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 18:15, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::I dunno, I think I saw something on the forums where people were saying it only had one ear or something...but I could have been half-asleep and misreading everything, it's happened before, haha. Anyway, another point that nobody seems to have pointed out yet, the Pichu is on the poster for the Pikachu short, not the movie itself, so it's useless to speculate about what role it might have in the movie. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 18:23, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::You make a good point there... there is no actual confirmation that the Pichu is the Pokémon that was hidden. {{tt|Gen V. is back on!|Perhaps}} [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 18:36, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, I didn't quite say that... There's an overwhelming amount of evidence that the Pichu was indeed the hidden Pokémon, although why they'd want to make a Pichu a "surprise" is beyond me... [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 18:48, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Look at its eyes. They're the same brown as {{tt|another Pokémon on that poster|speculation, speculation...}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:58, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Wow I can't belive that they might just give Pikachu a relative!!! Awsome I can't wait for more info! [[User:Rucario64|Rucario]][[User Talk:Rucario64|64]] 18:28, 14 December 2008 (UT::C)
::::::Pikachu having a relative? More likely its Pikachu when it was a Pichu.--[[User:XNovaXx|XNovaXx]] 00:15, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
That is not a normal Pichu. I looked at about 70 Diffrent pictures of pichu, and none of them have brown eyes. And that's not even mentioning its ear. I'm thinking that this is another species , a second Pokémon that will turn into a normal pikachu, from Gen V.--[[User:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] 17:38, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

[http://yfrog.com/4r36166472p Full quality-lowres] [http://yfrog.com/1796916901p stretched] [http://yfrog.com/1728980118p stretch more]
Should I upload the English movie poster? Which size? It's in low quality but should suffice until it's released in full size. --[[User:Coololz352|Coololz352]] 02:08, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

== Nintendo Owned Everyone (Including Me) ==
[[User:LordArceus/"5th Gen"|Nintendo is amazing.]] {{unsigned|LordArceus}}
:Whoops. [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 17:40, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::I must say, they're total jerks for that. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:06, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

== Percent chance of Galactic, importantly Cyrus, appearing? ==

100%? Less? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:31, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:I don't know if they are going to appear in the movie since something like this hasn't happened since the first movie. I could be wrong anyway. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 21:35, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::Considering the fact that Galactic has already appeared in the series and the writers seem to be giving them more screen time/development than most previous teams (relative to their importance in the game, I mean), I feel it's at least worth a second thought that Cyrus will probably appear later in the series instead of in this movie; either that, or the writers are finally going to abandon their unspoken policy of keeping movie canon (mostly) separate from series canon. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 21:44, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::They've got the Spear Key, Adamant and Lustrous Orbs. Movie 12 obviously takes place in an area inspired by Greece (Spear Pillar) and features Arceus. They know we were disappointed in the hour special they laid out for Groudon and Kyogre, so they want to remedy it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:08, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::But usually stories like these culminate in the series not in a movie. Bar the first one, Movies and series are most of the time entirely disjoined. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 22:13, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::But like I said, the writers have been pretty ambitious this series--maybe they've decided to go ahead and tie a theatrical release directly to the show. I just think we need to weigh both possibilities equally and not assume that Cyrus will be in it just because the dragon trio will be (and possibly Arceus) until we get more information. Although, they could settle for a happy medium of sorts, something like having Cyrus appear in the movie but never in the series, and just have the Galactic admins make allusions to him in the series. I think it's pretty up-in-the-air right now; considering the fact that the previous two movies have involved members of the dragon trio without involving Cyrus, it's not like it would be impossible for them to pull off a movie featuring them and Arceus and not include Cyrus. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 22:27, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Did they appear in the first two? Survey says: Nope! The battle has nothing to do with Cyrus and his flunkies anyway [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 22:32, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::You know that Cyrus's debut wasn't till AFTER the movie premiered, right?- ''unsigned comment from [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:::::That's true...didn't consider that. But I still think it's possible for them to pull off a plot about the dragon trio and Arceus without him. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 22:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Meh, never stopped them before [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 22:47, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::That's highly likely to include Team Galactic and Cyrus, not to mention the fact that it can also boost tickets sales! -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 09:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::The only thing I can see that may boost ticket sales is the inevitable Arceus giveaway. Besides, Pokémon was unphased by going up against Studio Ghibli this year so it doesn't really need help on the popularity front.
:::::::::Team Magma were in six and while I can see them having that role, a plotline started in the series should conclude in the series. We'll probably be around the start of the league tournament by July anyway. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 09:42, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Darkrai popped back up in the show so why not Arceus. Then Cyrus could try to control it.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:24, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

the anime is soon coming out the episode that involves spear pillar and galactic, so it is a possibility [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:26, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Can we please ==

Can we please put Piplup on the cast sheet? You know it's going to be there. And please don't give me the "unconfirmed" lecture. It was in the first two movies, is featured on the poster for this and the previous Pikachu movie. I get why you might not want it for the regular episodes but, come on now... There is really no good reason it wouldn't appear. Do you really think after all the writers have done with Piplup so far that there really going to make it skip a movie appearance? Or are you going to get all mad at me if I add it on the cast sheet? Face it, Piplup IS the new Togepi. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 09:59, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind. Found out officially that it's in the movie. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:06, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:It's better than Togepi, believe me. At least it does something. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:13, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

maybe theres something hint on there maybe but its looks like similat to zelda twiligth princess.......--[[User:Bakunawa|Bakunawa]] 10:16, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

You know, even IF I did want it to appear in the episodes, we still should wait for more information in regards to whether Piplup is actually appearing or not. For all we know, the poster could have just misled us. It's not like they haven't done that before [cough, cough, cough, cough, [[Palkia (anime)|Palkia]], [[Giratina and the Sky Warrior|Sky Warrior]] poster cough, cough, cough, cough] [cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, [[Brock's Marshtomp|Mudkip]] and [[Ash's Sceptile|Treecko]] in [[Jirachi: Wish Maker|Jirachi poster]] cough, cough, cough, cough, cough, cough]. I won't argue that it should be erased, since, as you said, it's officially confirmed. However, for episodes, we DEFINITELY need to wait until the the previews at least before we add in Piplup. I mean, should we add in Wobbuffet in every single pokemon episode that's upcoming just because it appears in a lot of the episodes? Because that would be the same thing. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 20:50, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:I was referring to the trailer, not the poster. Piplup was in the trailer. And Wobbuffet hasn't been in the anime for nearly 50 episodes straight without an absence. Piplup has. It's not just the number of episodes its appeared in. It's the consistency. Wobbuffet is in a lot of episodes but will be absent once every 10 or 15 episodes. Each week that passes, Piplup gets confirmed for yet another episode and some still wanna believe that its all of a sudden not going to appear next week. Besides, Wobbuffet belongs to an antagonist who are not the absolute central point of the anime like the heroes are. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:22, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::Trailer is misleading too! Not every scene in the trailer are included in the movie, for instance, the Pidgeot in movie 10 trailer. I agree with Weedle.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 05:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::Meowth belonged to the Antagonists, as well, and yet that never stopped people from adding in his name before. I'm not saying that Piplup shouldn't be in any episodes, I'm actually more neutral to the debate. All I'm saying that it still needs more information. And I still don't see too much of a difference between Piplup appearing and Wobbuffet appearing. I mean, at least with Pikachu, Meowth, and up until "A Togepi Mirage", Togepi, they weren't in pokeballs, so their appearances were definitely a given. Piplup, no matter how many appearances it's made in a way similar to Pikachu and Meowth, is still a pokeball pokemon that makes multiple appearances in episodes, not unlike Wobbuffet, in one sense. Unlike Piplup, Wobbuffet still doesn't get inserted into the cast pokemon of the episode [or rather, people aren't trying to insert it in.]. Basically, what I'm saying is that we shouldn't be too hasty to add in Piplup before we have undeniable proof that it's in. I mean, I don't add in Wobbuffet to the pokemon appearing in every upcoming episode, and you don't either, so what makes Piplup any different? [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 22:22, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

:::Okay... appearently you haven't read anything I said to why Piplup should be treated different than Wobbuffet. <big><big>NEARLY 50 EPISODES STRAIGHT WITHOUT AN ABSCENCE.</big></big> That's why Piplup should be added in automatically. It be different if Piplup was absent every few episodes during this span but it wasn't. Wobbuffet has never appeared for 50 episodes without an absence. As for Meowth, he's an antagonist in himself. He really doesn't belong to anyone like Wobbuffet does. And he's actually appeared in every episode. Not like Wobbuffet. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:53, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== Merchandise ==

Any way we can work this into the article, other than saying "Something something, featuring Monferno, Bronzong, Staraptor, and Heatran, prompting fan speculation that [[Ash]]'s {{AP|Chimchar}} and {{AP|Staravia}} will evolve and Brock/Dawn will capture a Bronzong something something Heatran's role." --- Aura-Knight 22:24, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

:......I would at least suspect the character of the movie to have a Bronzong.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 07:59, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

== Pichu ==

On the page, it says "a Pichu with spiked ears" whereas everywhere else, it says "notched ear" I know it's a bit nit-picky but this does seem like the more official term.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 23:54, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:More official? Both terms are '''[[fanon]]'''! -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 05:40, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:The former or the latter of which you said? --[[User:Bulbapedian|Bulbapedian]] - [[User talk:Bulbapedian|Talk]] 23:57, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
::Did. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 00:04, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

== Heartran ==

serebii.net said Heatran involve this thing 12 movie...........--[[User:Bakunawa|Bakunawa]] 06:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:......Here you're in the best Pokémon Encyclopedia '''ever'''! Serebii is a site full of speculation! -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 07:57, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:I'm not to sure but I guess that Serebii's information doesn't qualify as sure evidence here.--'''[[User:Diby|Di]][[User talk:Diby|b]][[Special:Contributions/Diby|y]]''' 06:55, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

I have searched for the corocoro issue of jan 19 but the content of that issue is about megaman and the revivl of one of its series, so was the info date wrong?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 15:20, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== World Hobbo Fair ==
shouldn't the legendary pokemon have been revealed on the 19th? if it was, why doesn't Bulbanews have the info.? [[User:Vik0z0z|Vik0z0z]] 21:22, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
:There wasn't anything revealed at the fair. It would have been up if it was. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 21:27, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I think I have an explanation for that, the world hobby fair is moving around in different cities like tokyo and nagua and others, so the news will be released at the world hobby fair but with an unknown date and city.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:34, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

== Official Arceus ==

Guys, there's a link on the page to {{p|Arceus}}. Since there's already been THAT hint with the magazine, shouldn't the link be put there(and the page to be started) when we get something official? Plus, we just might have to watch out for any possible "funny business" around the {{p|Arceus}} when there's still NOTHING official...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 01:50, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:So you're saying the link shouldn't be should unless we make a page about {{p|Arceus}}, But we can't because we have nothing more than a mere magazine hint? I'm just confused.....--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]-[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 01:53, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm saying that we shouldn't have the link there until anything official. When something official pops up, sure we party, Arceus is revealed, an admin puts the link and someone should starts a decent article if there's at 100-something words of info. To be even MORE CLEAR, someone removes the link, something official pops up, the link is put there and the article on it is started if enough info to make it even a decent stub is put there.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 01:58, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:Wikis put links to pages that haven't yet been created so someone can know to create them. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:57, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I meant that the link to the uncreated Arceus (anime) article should be removed from the page, until official news, even though its very likely to happen. The link should be put on the page and the Arceus (anime) page should be started when we get official news. Official news!--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 13:50, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:The link doesn't matter. If you're looking for something official that confirms that Arceus will appear in the movie, it's the calendar. Let's just wait until someone who knows more about the upcoming star of the movie starts the page. --×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 13:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Then again... the calendar IS official. It could a hidden confirmation cause Nintendo wants to reveal the {{tt|Alpha Pokémon|Arceus is the Alpha Pokémon, for people who apparently forgot.....}} in a special way. That's it! We keep it on there! More info is bound to come any time now, any minute now... you get it, I guess it really should be kept on the page.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 14:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

OMG! Arceus has been revealed and it has been revealed to be the star of the 12th movie! [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Official_Arceus_image_surfaces '''''HERE!'''''] We be partying! Party... party... okay, I'm done... anyway, we can make the {{p|Arceus}} article either now, or later, I'm thinking "freely" right now! I guess we'll just put the future event template if we start it now...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 05:37, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:We don't have any information on the one appearing in the movie yet, but that likely comes this week or next week. All that's know is that it IS in the movie. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

== New name? ==
In [http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090211_film12_02.jpg this scan], if I am not worng, the new title of the movie is "Arceus: To the Conquering of Space-Time" --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <sc>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]]</sc> 15:26, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:You are right, but Bulbapedia wants to be sure and wait for better scans.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 17:45, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::I don't think it's really needed... even if the scan's quality is poor, we can clearly see that ''Arceus'' was added to the movie's title... - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] 17:50, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I think it's good enough to move the page. Even Serebii is reporting the new title. [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 17:55, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::::This is what happens when admins are protecting almost every page for every smallest reason. The Bulbapedia CAN'T BE UP TO DATE because of this. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 18:09, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well a reason a lot of the pages are protected is so people don't just start editing things in that might turn out to not be true. It sucks to have to lock them, yes, but it's still best to wait until some information is pretty obvious before editing it in. [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 18:25, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::The need to have the page up-to-date > The risk of having a n00b posting fake informations. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 18:46, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::hold on, I taught the name of it had - instead of : [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 20:30, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::In Japanese characters, there's only a hollow between "Arceus" and the old title. In all the other titles, we used ":" in similar cases. - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] 20:32, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

== Johto Starters ==

After the recent revealing of the Coro Coro scans, I believe Cyndaquil, Torchic, and Totodile should be added to the "Featured Pokémon" section.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|StarLeged}} ([[User talk:StarLeged|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/StarLeged|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

How do we know Johto starters are in this???

GSDS hints anyone??? [[User:Super Max|'''Super''']][[Special:Contributions/Super Max|'''-''']][[User talk:Super Max|'''Max''']] 21:44, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:It's Chikorita and its on the scsn on Serebii.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 21:47, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

OH, that's so unfair, I thought they were new ones, linked to a hint to GSDS, but sadly the ones in that clip are just Ash's that he caught in the Johto region. He probably had them transfered from Proffesor Oak. (Please let him get rid of Gliscor) [[User:Super Max|'''Super''']][[Special:Contributions/Super Max|'''-''']][[User talk:Super Max|'''Max''']] 21:51, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

:Just FYI, they're not Ash's pokémon (Ash's Chikorita evolved, remember?) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 21:53, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Mew came along and devolved it???
I hate this, I really want GSDS, but something tells me, they are covering so much of Johto so they don't have to do a remake.
[[User:Super Max|'''Super''']][[Special:Contributions/Super Max|'''-''']][[User talk:Super Max|'''Max''']] 21:55, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Exactly--[[User:Sludge|Sludge]] 21:54, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

::(ECx2)Everything is a GSDS hint, isn't it.... What happened to waiting until the movie was released? Pikachu and Piplup are on the poster too, but they aren't mentioned. Just. Wait. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 21:57, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

OMG, your saying Piplup is in the 12th movie as well? Wait a minute, Piplup is a water type pokemon, Johto has water type pokemon. OMG, another hint. LOL [[User:Super Max|'''Super''']][[Special:Contributions/Super Max|'''-''']][[User talk:Super Max|'''Max''']] 21:59, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

:Correct me if I'm mistaken, but didn't they end up covering a lot of the Gen III pokemon/Gen IV pokemon near the end of Johto and the Kanto Battle Frontier, respectively, not to mention the fact that they covered a lot on Kanto in AG (even going as far as to hold the BF in Kanto instead of holding it on that Island near Hoenn.) and they still advertised the fact that the FR/LG remakes were coming out?

Another thing, No, we aren't going that far. Besides, using Piplup is not the same thing as having... ohh, not just one Gen II pokemon have a major role in a movie, but apparantly having '''four''' Gen II pokemon have major roles in the movie.[[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 22:01, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

4neeums (Forums).--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 22:02, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

I have said since the first day i found out about Battle Frontier in Platinum, I said THE ANIME WILL HOST THE BF IN JOHTO. And it looks like that is a fact (him and Dawn willl go there, Dawn because of what May told her Contests, Ash for the BF), hopefully that means the games will also do a johto. I just hope there is no Kanto in GSDS, otherwise Kanto would have been in every generation [[User:Super Max|'''Super''']][[Special:Contributions/Super Max|'''-''']][[User talk:Super Max|'''Max''']] 22:04, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:*points to {{u|CoolPikachu!}}'s comment above*--[[Flash Fire (ability)|freezing]][[Heat Wave (move)|COLD]] ([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 22:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

what about Heatran, who was also in the poster? --[[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 23:12, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

== i have a point ==

First of all, I would like to point out to the comment above mentioning that Heatrans also on the poster. Also, shouldn't the title be renamed to "The Conquering of Space and Time"? There's no "To" anywhere in the text. And also, yes, Space and Time is written as Space-Time...but it should be translated to Space '''AND''' Time. It's like how you don't see '''THE''' in the title, but it still appears in the translation.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 01:38, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:Hello? Is anyone listening to me?--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 04:25, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::An admin must add Heatran in the list. Regarding the title, I dunno how to translate Japanese. D: ×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 04:57, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Good point, Tavi. Where did the "To" exactly come from? As proven by the meme, "All Your Base are Belong To Us", you can't always directly translate something. Seriously... where DID the "To" come from? Can anyone find out?--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 06:02, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Psh, Heatran. Who cares about that Vader knockoff. JOHTO STAAARTERRRRRS! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:12, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

TTE, I also love Johto and I support GSDS(and of course I see the Johto starters as a hint), and heck, I even downloaded and still playing the hack, ShinyGold... but that was completely off topic. Now can anyone find out what with the "To". I knew the title sounded weird but I didn't think much of it until now.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 06:31, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:The error in the AYB is not in the "To", thus, your example is irrelevant, witness. '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 11:39, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

== Wait. ==

...is spacetime doing the conquering?! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:46, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:It sounds a little ridiculous, but I don't know... the preview didn't feature that, just the dragon trion about to see Arceus come in to stop their fighting or something in that matter...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 09:53, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
:A "spacetime of conquering" isn't technically different from a "conquering spacetime", if you keep in mind that "conquering" is an adjective...--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:02, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
I just want to say that I think the current translation of the title on BP doesn't make much sense. --[[User:Argy|Argy]] 08:41, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:Whatever happened to ''Arceus: The Conquering of Space-Time''? --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 11:04, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::I think it was changed to a more literal translation. I have to agree with Argy that the current title is pretty bizarre. It means almost the exact same thing as the previous title, as long as ''Conquering'' is understood to be a {{tt|possesive adjective|Although technically, in the original title, Conquering is a verb, and the last two words can be dropped grammatically, as they are a preposition}} Grammar and English sentence structure is not my strong suit though, so i may be wrong. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 15:37, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:::アルセウス超克の時空へ Arceus: The Conquest of Spacetime or Spacetime's Conquest. I dunno much how Japanese works, but really, literal translations never get you anywhere. Sometimes a different word's used. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:03, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Er, you're translation's sort of...I guess I would call it backwards. ''Chōkoku'' is "conquest" and ''Jikū'' is "spacetime". The の ''no'' comes after the ''Chōkoku'', so that's the word that's possessive. Technically, the title is "conquest's spacetime" or "spacetime of conquest". However, the へ ''e'' is a directional particle, so it has to be something like "to a spacetime of conquest."--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:14, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Main screen turn on? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:29, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
I think the current title is the least ridiculous-sounding one which still means the same as the original Japanese. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 18:49, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

== Image ==

Here's an image of Heatran and the Johot starters. Add it if you want. [[Image:Movie 12 heatran johto.png|thumb]] *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 09:40, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Johto_in_Movie_12.png That's a duplicate file]! ×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 09:45, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

CAN we plaese add the picture {{unsigned|Vik0z0z}}

== English voice actors ==

Can we add them since we know who they are already ? [[User:Livinlarge18|Livinlarge18]] 17:06, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:HOW can we know the English voice actors if the VA's haven't been released for Japan yet?--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 17:27, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::{{tt|WELL|pulling your chain...}}, assuming everyone's not fired, we know who is doing the voices of the major characters right now. Stands to reason that they should still be around in a year or so when the dubbed version is released. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 22:02, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:::If we had assumed that for Movie 9 when it was announced, we'd be wrong. No. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== Error ==

On the page it says [[Giratina (anime)|{{color|FF0000|gi}}{{color|DDDD00|R}}{{color|FF0000|atina}}]]. It should say [[Giratina (anime)|{{color|DDDD00|gi}}{{color|FF0000|R}}{{color|DDDD00|atina}}]]. Glitchym1[[User:Glitchym1|Mglitch]] 16:45, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:Same mistake with Shaymin.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:35, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

::You're both wrong - the large red letters spell "ARCEUS", and the two leftovers (Giratina and Palkia) have large yellow letters instead. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 19:38, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

:::Actually, I would change it though, to maybe like say the "singular red letters" or make the excluded names' red colours be something else like blue or green, or even take those names out completely, I mean there is only 8 names there and there are 12 months. What harm would having 6 names there? [[User:Smashbrother101|Smashbrother101]] 20:10, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

== Final poster ==

See Bulbanews.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 00:04, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

== Trailer ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwUpivwwHvM

Should the trailer be added somewhere? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 01:33, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

::I dunno...can you really trust trailers? Points to the 8th movie trailer - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Riggins}} ([[User talk:Riggins|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Riggins|contribs]]) ''
::Added as in the information provided? We should probably wait until www.pokemon-movie.jp is updated. There are no trailer links on any other movie pages, so that wouldn't be needed if that's what you meant. [[User:Ryuartyi|Ryuartyi]] 04:25, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

From http://www.pokemon-movie.jp:

:Ash and friends arrive in a town called Michiina to see its landmark ancient ruins. Next to some of the ruins is a beautiful lake. Suddenly, a wave emerges and chases our heroes, forming into a water funnel that surrounds and engulfs them. From within, a girl's voice yells, "Dialga, I beg you!" Dialga appears. [The summary doesn't say what happens to Dialga, but it implies that the funnel dissipates, which means Dialga probably leaves.]

:The girl is named Sheena and she protects the ruins. She can also read the hearts of Pokemon. She invites Ash and friends to the ruins and explains to them a "Time and Space Law" and how Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina relate to this law. She also talks about an old myth of Michiina. The myth states that Arceus created all things and in the ancient past saved all Pokemon from a meteor...

--[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 13:19, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
:Someone has got to add the summary. [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 13:00, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

::Summary copy-pasted of Pokébeach. Do not add.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 23:45, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Serebii got better summary than that. We better add summary translated by our {{ut|Urutapu|official Japanese text translator}}. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 05:17, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Oh god please don't give me more work D: (unless it's like, actual text you can copy and paste, it makes things about 20 times faster...)—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:32, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

== Something i just noticed about Giratina ==

Take a look at these two screens from one of the trailers: [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Morgil/giratinatraileroriginforme1.jpg screen 1], [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/Morgil/giratinatraileroriginforme2.jpg screen 2]. Notice something? Giratina is in its Original Forme. Since it's doesn't look to be in the reverse world in that scene, it must've either obtained the Griseous Orb, or the anime has come up with some other new explanation that goes against the games (witch they tend to do sometimes) [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 19:22, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
:It might be part of Arceus's destruction of the dimensions! Anyway, don't take it seriously, it's just a trailer, which may not appear at all. And besides, that trailer is under 2008 (''Giratina and the Sky Warrior''), so that scene doesn't matter coz' it may not be part of the actual movie. '''◄[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]►''' 06:40, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

== So, should we create an Article for Movie Arceus? ==

I'm asking because he's playing an important role in the movie, and besides which, we have already found out a lot about him in regards to the manga of that movie. Besides, if we can create articles for Damos, Gishin, and others despite not knowing too much of them at the time, whose to say that we can't let Movie Arceus have an article? [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 11:20, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
:It should have an article, definitely. Question is who's going to make it. [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 11:23, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
::TTE protected it from being created, thus, only admin can do. '''◄[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]►''' 11:25, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Like I said, question is ''who's'' going to make it. None of us, I bet. [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 11:36, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Even if it'll be created, it will be protected for ages. So, I think that's hopeless. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 11:41, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::Just like with everything else movie related that has been protected in the last year, it's so we don't constantly change the page every time something little comes up that was wrong. Just wait untill the movie actually shows. The article will eventually be made like all of the others. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:51, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::Hey, I'm more than willing to wait for it. The problem is, people have already created Damos' and Gishin's articles from the day they were announced, so in order for it to make sense, we may need to make Arceus' article. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 19:48, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Well, I didn't even bother checking for those pages, but oh well. I still say we should wait. And if not, then have a page made and get it protected right away so we don't have way too many edits happening all the time. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 20:56, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

==The twelfth Pokémon Pokémon movie?==

This makes no sense. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 14:25, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

== Movie summary from Pokébeach ==

http://pokebeach.com/2009/07/arceus-movie-summary-heartgold-soulsilver-commercial-13th-pokemon-movie

Among other things;
*[[Notched-ear Pichu]] apparently belongs to [[Damos]]
*[[Palmer]] cameo at the beginning
*Teaser for the 13th movie, apparently [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver versions|HGSS-related]]
[[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 10:45, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:SPOILER ALERT: PIKACHU DIES. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:17, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::ANOTHER SPOILER ALERT: PIKACHU COMES BACK!!!! {{tt|:D|beat that, TTE!}}--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 00:23, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:::SO DID ASH, BUT SO WHAT? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:45, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== What do you think about this? ==

Should the text that says "it is coincidentally or whatever it is, premiered on the 11th anniversary of the first film", anyways should stay where it is or be moved to trivia?--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 05:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus and the Jewel of Life ==

Who said that'd be the English name? --[[User:CuboneKing|CUBONE]] ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) [[Cubone (Pokémon)|PWNS]] 16:57, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:[http://pokebeach.com/2009/08/movie-12-english-title-arceus-and-the-jewel-of-life PokéBeach]. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 17:41, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::I think it should be left at the actual Japanese translation title until we have more sources. Pokébeach has been wrong on several occasions. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 18:33, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I like the way you think, MasterKenobi. I'm moving this back. Unless... anyone else? --[[User:CuboneKing|CUBONE]] ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) [[Cubone (Pokémon)|PWNS]] 18:47, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Thanks. On top of that all the redirects would need to be relinked. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 18:52, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Wait till a more offical source says this kind of thing, Noctowl. --[[User:CuboneKing|CUBONE]] ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) [[Cubone (Pokémon)|PWNS]] 19:25, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

::::::Furthermore, the original source of this title is from Switzerland. That title might not have been drafted by TPCI, and even if it was, it could be a working title and not a finalized title. We should probably wait for an official American announcement before making any page moves. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:35, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::It's said out loud in the end of the trailer (the first video), so I'd say we should use the new given name. We can move it afterwards if they decide to change the dub name later. I'd say the trailer ''is'' official content. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 19:38, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I have one question, was there anything about TPCI there?--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 21:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::No, no mention of TPCI is made in the alleged "official announcement". The English voiceover might have been done by a native of Switzerland. As far as we can tell, "Arceus and the Jewel of Life" is merely a title used at the film festival in question and, while redirectworthy, is in no way the final English title. We really should wait until there's a real official announcement courtesy of TPCI themselves. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:58, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Yea i agree, it might of been a translation error but very unlikely, the title will maybe be announced official by the end of this year.--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 22:01, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

There were people from Nintendo there, so they clearly endorse it. In fact, it would have been illegal for them to play the subbed trailer ''without'' the consent of Nintendo. Therefore, the trailer's content can be considered official because it is licensed/endorsed/whatever by Nintendo. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 22:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

:Staff of the dub? From what I could tell, there were only Japanese staff there...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:06, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::If it wasn't the official English title, Nintendo wouldn't have let the festival call it that in the English subtitles. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 22:10, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

:::Have you ever heard of a "working title"? A working title is a title that is not finalized. And based on the evidence, "Arceus and the Jewel of Life" is a working title, and yet you're insisting that it's the final title simply because it was said in English. For all we know, "Giratina and the Sky Warrior", "The Rise of Darkrai", "Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea", and so on and so forth had different titles earlier on in the English production. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:13, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Even if it's a working title, the page should be moved to that until the final title is revealed, since a working English title is preferable to the final Japanese title on an English wiki. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 22:14, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Official titles are preferable and I doubt TPCI have come up with one yet. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 02:56, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::Since this is an English wiki, the English title is preferable to the Japanese title. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 13:11, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Only if we have an official English title. This... doesn't feel official. And besides, we are not allowed to do anything until the movie airs in the US. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 16:02, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I actually think the page should be protected. --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bon]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|e]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 23:25, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

:::::::::It already is. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:30, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::My bad. --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 23:32, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

== Heracross and Beautifly ==

Shouldn't the Heracross and Beautifly listed among the Pokémon appearing in the movie be allocated to Kanta and Kako? I'd do it myself, but as the page is protected... [[User:Watchermark|Watchermark]] 22:15, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:Done. Cheers. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:20, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== Title Confirmed ==
Pokémon.com confirms "Arceus and the Jewel of Life" and has an English poster. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 00:02, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:Ok did someone change it?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 00:05, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::Since the title's confirmed, could someone unprotect it? [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 18:31, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Sure, let's try that. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:41, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== Poster ==

Image.

[[File:Arceus and the Jewel of Life.jpg|thumb|left|230px|English Poster]]
[[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 04:19, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:A higher resolution copy would be prefered. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:48, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::Unfortunately, that's all Pokemon.com gave us... [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 22:31, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::There are these but they're just stretched and pixelated [http://yfrog.com/4r36166472p current] [http://yfrog.com/1796916901p stretched] [http://yfrog.com/1728980118p stretch more] --[[User:Coololz352|Coololz352]] 23:22, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

== Where are the Johto Starters? ==

Okay, so it's been in the news for months that Chikorita, Totodile, and Cyndaquil are going to appear in the movie. However, in the synopsis and trailers, they are nowhere to be seen. Are they in the real movie, or is there a Pikachu short that they appeared in? In other words, exactly where are they? {{unsigned|Skulblaka Shurtugal}}
:Chikorita and Cyndaquil help Gishin's soldiers prepare food according to [[Gishin's soldiers|this article]]. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' ''http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/skins/common/images/button_sig.png'''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 21:54, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

==Spiky Eared Pichu Cover-Up==
If you check the Movie Poster on www.pokemon.com right now, you'd notice that Pichu has been removed. And now they're advertising this "mysterious Pokemon" that we know is the Spiky Eared Pichu. It's an interesting bit of trivia, I guess.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 01:34, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

== US Realease date REVEALED !!! ==

Hey guys, Pokémon Movie 12 - Arceus and the Jewel of Life is going to release in 2009 (this year), officially confirmed by pokemon.com . I want to edit this page but it is protected (Locked) by admins ( The dark lord trombonator ). So admins please change the US release year and replace SPRING 2010 with 2009 (End of the year). You can check it out yourself, here is the link http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag . Read the full mail bag. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 05:02, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
:Uh, not really. The mailbag guy ''thinks'' it'll air this year... I think we should hold out for something more concrete before it's changed. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:17, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
::''"Actually, we don't just think, we know"'', are you just about that? '''[[User:Myles|Myles]]''' ([[User talk:Myles|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Myles|contrib]]) 05:26, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Zesty Cactus, read the full sentence "Actually, we don't just think, we know". Now tell me what does that mean? --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 06:09, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
::::What do you think it means when an '''official from The Pokémon Company International''' says:''"Actually, we don't just think, we know."'' Duh. If they said that about Heartgold and Soulsilver, ''everyone'' would be all over it. ZestyCactus, it means that it's confirmed. It's obvious. [[User:Alec9|''alec'''9''''']] [[Special:Contributions/Alec9|*]] [[User talk:Alec9|-]] [[Gallade (Pokémon)|*]] 17:02, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

== A theatrical release? ==

Okay, so if the US premier of Arceus and the Jewel of Life is late 2009, and its DVD release is Spring 2010, then why is that? Does that mean that there is going to be a 3-month hiatus between the TV premier and the DVD, or that the movie will be released theatrically in the US as well? After all, there is usually a 3- to 5-month break between a movie and its DVD. Please correct me if I am wrong. {{unsigned|Skulblaka Shurtugal}}
:I doubt it'll get a theatrical release, the difference is probably either a discrepancy in when the movie's gonna come out, or there's gonna be a couple months' gap between the TV premiere and the DVD release. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:55, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
::It was like that with Giratina and the Sky Warrior too. I remember watching it on Cartoon Network when it first premiered, and then the DVD came out a month or so after:

'''Premiere''': Japan July 19, 2008

United States February 13, 2009

'''Home video''': Japan December 19, 2008

United States March 31, 2009

It was actually released in Japanese on DVD months after it was released in English, considering the time inbetween premiere and DVD. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:07, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
:The Rise of Darkrai was aired in February 2008, and the DVD came out in May 2008. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:36, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

== Would this be bad to do? ==

Just to protect the page just for a week? In case people add in false dub names. Or anything else?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 00:00, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

== Australian premire :D ==

This is a Bulbanews article about it and it say it will air at 6pm Australian edst and the 6 nov 2009 (HOORAY)is it worth mentioning? :)[[User:Booker|Booker]] 08:56 2 November 2009 (UTC)

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User:Booker

2009-10-13T13:08:37Z

Booker:

Hi i'm new but I've been on the forums and on Bulbapedia looking at the great articles on here. I joined to perhaps to help edit and help with the Anime pages as I'm download and watching the English dub which I have started with 4th Gym in Johto to the Second one in Hoenn to my IPod with has a very long task but I will succeed in downloading the whole series on to it. :D

Update: 3rd gym in Sinnoh!

==About Me==

I listen to the old Bulbacast a lot and I hope that the new one will be even better with more people in Bulbagarden now.

I can't wait until HG and SS comes out in Australia but I hope it will be the same time as Platinum came out here next year.

I enjoy all aspects of the Pokemon franchise and can't wait for more news about HGSS and the Anime.

I had a a Charizard in the TCG but I gave it away cause I had no one to play with. :(
I still have a fair few cards from the originals though.

I hope this will be a Great Experience. :D

AG039

2009-10-13T13:07:06Z

Booker:

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prevtitle=A Different Kind of Misty |
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title_ja_trans=Sing! Pokémon Trick House!! |
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broadcast_jp=August 21, 2003 |
broadcast_us=September 4, 2004 |
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en_op=[[I Wanna Be A Hero]] |
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'''A Pokéblock Party''' (Japanese: '''歌う！ポケモンからくり屋敷!!''' ''Sing! Pokémon Trick House!!'') is the 39th episode of the {{series|Advanced Generation}}, and the 313th episode of the [[Pokémon anime]]. It was first broadcast in Japan on August 21, 2003 and in the United States on September 4, 2004.
{{spoilers}}

== Synopsis ==
{{Incomplete synopsis}}

== Major events ==
* {{an|Jigglypuff}} makes its one and only {{series|Advanced Generation}} appearance (and its final appearance in the anime to date).
=== Debuts ===
==== Pokémon debuts ====
* {{p|Whismur}}

== Characters ==
=== Humans ===
* {{Ash}}
* {{an|May}}
* [[Brock]]
* [[Max]]
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]
* [[Alanna]]
* [[Trick Master]]
* [[Ivan]]

=== Pokémon ===
[[Who’s That Pokémon?]]: {{p|Seviper}}
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Wobbuffet}} ({{OP|Jessie|Wobbuffet}})
* {{p|Corphish}} ({{OP|Ash|Corphish}})
* {{p|Seviper}} ({{OP|Jessie|Seviper}})
* {{p|Cacnea}} ({{OP|James|Cacnea}})
* {{p|Whismur}} ([[Alanna]]'s, debut)
* {{p|Jigglypuff}} ({{an|Jigglypuff|anime}})

== Trivia ==
* This is the only time {{an|Jigglypuff}} is seen in [[Hoenn]]. This is also its last appearance so far in the anime.
* Alanna's {{p|Whismur}} is the second character to remain awake through Jigglypuff's song through its {{a|Soundproof|special ability}}, although it falls asleep during the second performance due to general exhaustion.
* For reasons unknown, this episode, as well as ''[[AG037|Jump For Joy]]'', ''[[AG038|A Different Kind Of Misty]]'', and ''[[AG040|Watt's With Wattson?]]'' has aired only twice on American TV. These may be classified as the lost TV episodes since [[Pokémon: Advanced]] underwent a 3 month hiatus on [[Kids' WB!]]. They can still be obtained on Volume 8 of the Advanced DVD and the Advanced DVD Box Set. It has been played once more in Cartoon Network's Pokémon Episodes that are new to the network in the summer of 2008.

=== Errors ===
*Max refers to {{p|Whismur}}'s {{a|Soundproof}} ability as an [[move|attack]] in the dub.

=== Dub edits ===
* The [[Trick Master]] is called the King of Tricks in the dub.

== In other languages ==
* French: '''{{tt|La fête des Pokéblocs!|The Pokéblock party}}'''
* German: '''{{tt|Das Rätselhaus|The trick house}}'''
* Hebrew: '''תעתועי בית התעתועים''' ''{{tt|ta'atu'ei bet hata'atu'im|Tricks of the Trick House}}''
* Italian: '''{{tt|Una gara pazzesca|A crazy competition}}
* Portuguese (Brazilian): '''{{tt|A Gincana Maluca|The Crazy Competition}}'''
* Spanish:
** Iberian Spanish: '''{{tt|Fiesta en Casa Treta|Party at Trick House}}'''
** Latin American Spanish: '''{{tt|¡La casa de los trucos!|The trick's house}}'''

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User:Booker

2009-08-18T05:06:20Z

Booker:

Hi i'm new but I've been on the forums and on Bulbapedia looking at the great articles on here. I joined to perhaps to help edit and help with the Anime pages as I'm download and watching the English dub which I have started with 4th Gym in Johto to the Second one in Hoenn to my IPod with has a very long task but I will succeed in downloading the whole series on to it. :D

Update: now up to 6th gym in Hoenn :D

==About Me==

I listen to the old Bulbacast a lot and I hope that the new one will be even better with more people in Bulbagarden now.

I can't wait until HG and SS comes out in Australia but I hope it will be the same time as Platinum came out here next year.

I enjoy all aspects of the Pokemon franchise and can't wait for more news about HGSS and the Anime.

I had a a Charizard in the TCG but I gave it away cause I had no one to play with. :(
I still have a fair few cards from the originals though.

I hope this will be a Great Experience. :D

User:Booker

2009-08-18T05:05:11Z

Booker:

Hi i'm new but I've been on the forums and on Bulbapedia looking at the great articles on here. I joined to perhaps to help edit and help with the Anime pages as I'm download and watching the English dub which I have started with 4th Gym in Johto to the Second one in Hoenn to my IPod with has a very long task but I will succeed in downloading the whole series on to it. :D
==About Me==

I listen to the old Bulbacast a lot and I hope that the new one will be even better with more people in Bulbagarden now.

I can't wait until HG and SS comes out in Australia but i hope it will be the same time as Platinum came out here next year.

I enjoy all aspects of the Pokemon franchise and can't wait for more news about HGSS and the Anime.

I had a a Charizard in the TCG but I gave it away cause I had no one to play with. :(
I still have a fair few cards from the originals though.

I hope this will be a Great Experience. :D

Talk:AG039

2009-07-29T08:23:27Z

Booker: Created page with 'The Title in the opening was "A Poké-BLOCK Party" not as it is said here. I don't know if anyone cares but yeah'

The Title in the opening was "A Poké-BLOCK Party" not as it is said here. I don't know if anyone cares but yeah

User:Booker

2009-07-27T13:08:46Z

Booker: Created page with 'Hi i'm new but I've been on the forums and on Bulbapedia looking at the great articles on here. I joined to perhaps to help edit and help with the Anime pages as I'm download and…'

Hi i'm new but I've been on the forums and on Bulbapedia looking at the great articles on here. I joined to perhaps to help edit and help with the Anime pages as I'm download and watching the English dub which I have started with 4th Gym in Johto to the Second one in Hoenn to my IPod with has a very long task but I will succeed in downloading the whole series on to it. :D

I listen to the old Bulbacast a lot and I hope that the new one will be even better with more people in Bulbagarden now.

I can't wait until HG and SS comes out in Australia but i hope it will be the same time as Platinum came out here next year.

I enjoy all aspects of the Pokemon franchise and can't wait for more news about HGSS and the Anime.

I had a a Charizard in the TCG but I gave it away cause I had no one to play with. :(
I still have a fair few cards from the originals though.

I hope this will be a Great Experience. :D