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Alpha Pokémon

2022-03-16T02:29:17Z

BlueJoshi: /* Origin */ Alpha/Beta/Omega roles within wolf packs were debunked decades ago

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An '''alpha Pokémon''' (Japanese: '''オヤブン''' ''boss'') is a variety of Pokémon found in [[Pokémon Legends: Arceus]]. They are larger-than-normal Pokémon that appear in [[Hisui]] with increased combat capabilities. Alpha Pokémon can be identified with the [[File:Alpha icon.png|24px]] icon in the Pokémon's summary screen and on their health bar in the wild. Additionally, wild alpha Pokémon have glowing red eyes, except for {{p|Zubat}}.

==Story==
Shortly after the [[player]] joins the [[Survey Corps]], an alpha {{p|Kricketune}} intrudes on Deertrack Heights. [[Mai]], the [[Warden]] who oversees [[Wyrdeer]], enlists [[Akari (game)|Akari]]/[[Rei (game)|Rei]] to help defeat the Kricketune, who in turn asks the player to aid Mai due to their skill in [[Pokémon battle]]s.

While [[Ingo]] is leading the player through [[Wayward Cave]], an alpha {{p|Crobat}} appears along the route. Ingo insists that the player not battle it due to the reduced visibility caused by the absence of the cave's torches, and leads them on a detour to avoid it. The player is unable to battle or catch this particular alpha Pokémon until Ingo reinstalls the torches in the cave.

During the three [[Task#Missions|Trials]] of the [[Lake guardians]], the player has to face an alpha Pokémon at each lake; Hiusian {{p|Goodra}} at [[Lake Verity]], {{p|Overqwil}} at [[Lake Valor]], and Hisuian {{p|Zoroark}} at [[Lake Acuity]].

During the post-game, when the player goes to meet [[Volo]] at [[Grueling Grove]], the two are ambushed by an alpha {{p|Vespiquen}}. After defeating the Pokémon, the player receives a [[Stone Plate]] from her.

It is later revealed that the existence of alpha Pokémon was the result of {{p|Giratina}} opening space-time rifts that affect them with lightning strikes.

==Gameplay==
In the wild, alpha Pokémon will always be at a higher level than other species of the same kind, and will know and have mastered a move that cannot be learned by [[level|leveling up]]. Alpha Pokémon cannot be caught outside of battle if they are significantly higher level than the player's current [[obedience]] level. They can however be caught regardless of level during a battle with them. Regardless of the species' normal behavior, alpha Pokémon are always aggressive towards the player and will never run away.

Upon entering battle, wild alpha Pokémon be filled with '''Wild Might''' (Japanese: '''野性の力''' ''Wild Strength''), as indicated by their glowing red eyes. This increases all of a Pokémon's [[stat]]s, independently of in-battle stat boosts, and reduces damage from [[status condition]]s and splinters, such as from {{m|Stealth Rock}}. Alpha Pokémon can also use the Agile and Strong Style moves during battle, making them a challenge to capture or defeat in battle.

There are two types of ways alpha Pokémon may spawn:
* Fixed alpha Pokémon spawns will always be generated upon entering a given area of the Hisui region, and will be at a fixed level; for instance, the alpha {{p|Rapidash}} in the [[Obsidian Fieldlands]] is always Lv. 40. These Alpha Pokémon will also automatically respawn after a few in-game days.
* Random alpha Pokémon spawns may occur after the player has quelled the area's [[noble Pokémon]]. Alpha Pokémon, of the same species as the location's standard spawns, each have a small chance of appearing. Each location has its own rates for how likely each alpha Pokémon may spawn, including space-time distortions. During a Mass Outbreaks, at most one alpha Pokémon may also appear.

During the battle against {{p|Giratina}} at the [[Temple of Sinnoh]], it will be filled with '''Terrible Might''' (Japanese: '''すさまじい力''' ''Tremendous Strength''), which has an identical effect to Wild Might.

==Fixed alpha Pokémon==
Fixed alpha Pokémon are specimens that always appear in their alpha form in a specific location. Some of these specimens do not spawn until after parts of the main story are completed, usually needing the region's frenzied Noble to be tamed before appearing in the overworld.

Species marked with an * can only be found as that single fixed alpha specimen, in rare mass outbreaks, or a space-time distortion, but not anywhere else in the overworld.

===[[Obsidian Fieldlands]]===

{| class="roundtable sortable" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{locationcolor/light|grass}}; border: 3px solid #{{locationcolor/dark|grass}}"
! #
! colspan="2" |Pokémon
! Level
! Sub-Location
! Time of Day
! Weather
|- style="background:#fff"
| 042 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{flying color}}; background: #{{poison color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 042.png|30px]] || {{p|Golbat}} || 35 || Near [[Oreburrow Tunnel]] || Nighttime
|| All
|- style="background:#fff"
| 047 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{grass color}}; background: #{{bug color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 047.png|30px]] || {{p|Parasect}} || 30 || [[Nature's Pantry]] || All || All
|- style="background:#fff"
| 065 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{psychic color}}; background: #{{psychic color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 065.png|30px]] || {{p|Alakazam}}* || 60 || [[Sandgem Flats]] || All || All
|- style="background:#fff"
| 075 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{ground color}}; background: #{{rock color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 075.png|30px]] || {{p|Graveler}} || 30 || Near [[Obsidian Falls]] || All || All
|- style="background:#fff"
| 078 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{fire color}}; background: #{{fire color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 078.png|30px]] || {{p|Rapidash}}* || 40 || [[Horseshoe Plains]] || All || Sunny
|- style="background:#fff"
| 123 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{flying color}}; background: #{{bug color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 123.png|30px]] || {{p|Scyther}} || 42 || Near [[Grandtree Arena]] || All || All
|- style="background:#fff"
| 129 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{flying color}}; background: #{{water color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 129.png|30px]] || {{p|Magikarp}} || 60 || [[Obsidian Falls]] || All || All
|- style="background:#fff"
| 130 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{flying color}}; background: #{{water color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 130.png|30px]] || {{p|Gyarados}} || 60 || [[Lake Verity]] || All || All
|- style="background:#fff"
| 143 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{normal color}}; background: #{{normal color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 143.png|30px]] || {{p|Snorlax}} || 45 || Near [[Sandgem Flats]] || All || All
|- style="background:#fff"
| 214 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{fighting color}}; background: #{{bug color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 214.png|30px]] || {{p|Heracross}} || 45 || [[Grueling Grove]] || All || All
|- style="background:#fff"
| 234 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{normal color}}; background: #{{normal color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 234.png|30px]] || {{p|Stantler}} || 42 || [[Deertrack Heights]] || All || All
|- style="background:#fff"
| 242 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{normal color}}; background: #{{normal color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 242.png|30px]] || {{p|Blissey}} || 62 || Near [[Obsidian Falls]] || All || All
|- style="background:#fff"
| 392 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{fighting color}}; background: #{{fire color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 392.png|30px]] || {{p|Infernape}}* || 65 || [[Ramanas Island]] || All || All
|- style="background:#fff"
| 397 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{flying color}}; background: #{{normal color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 397.png|30px]] || {{p|Staravia}} || 32 || [[Windswept Run]] || All || All
|- style="background:#fff"
| 400 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{water color}}; background: #{{normal color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 400.png|30px]] || {{p|Bibarel}} || 16 || [[Tidewater Dam]] || All || All
|- style="background:#fff"
| 402 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{bug color}}; background: #{{bug color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 402.png|30px]] || {{p|Kricketune}} || 30 || Near [[Nature's Pantry]] || All || All
|- style="background:#fff"
| 404 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{electric color}}; background: #{{electric color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 404.png|30px]] || {{p|Luxio}} || 40 || [[Floaro Gardens]] || All || All
|- style="background:#fff"
| 419 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{water color}}; background: #{{water color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 419.png|30px]] || {{p|Floatzel}} || 31 || Near [[Worn Bridge]] || All || All
|- style="background:#fff"
| 428 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{normal color}}; background: #{{normal color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 428.png|30px]] || {{p|Lopunny}} || 40 || Near [[The Heartwood]] || All || All
|}
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===[[Crimson Mirelands]]===

{| class="roundtable sortable" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{locationcolor/light|marsh}}; border: 3px solid #{{locationcolor/dark|marsh}}"
! #
! colspan="2" |Pokémon
! Level
! Sub-Location
! Time of Day
! Weather
|-
| 026 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{electric color}}; background: #{{electric color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 026.png|30px]] || {{p|Raichu}}* || 52 || Near [[Golden Lowlands]] || All || All
|-
| 095 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{rock color}}; background: #{{ground color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 095.png|30px]] || {{p|Onix}} || 50 || Near [[Bolderoll Slope]] || All || All
|-
| 111 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{rock color}}; background: #{{ground color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 111.png|30px]] || {{p|Rhyhorn}} || 45 || [[Diamond Heath]] || All || All
|-
| 217 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{normal color}}; background: #{{normal color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 217.png|30px]] || {{p|Ursaring}} || 55 || Near [[Gapejaw Bog]] || All || All
|-
| 217 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{normal color}}; background: #{{normal color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 217.png|30px]] || {{p|Ursaring}} || 41 || [[Ursa's Ring]] || All || All
|-
| 389 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{ground color}}; background: #{{grass color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 389.png|30px]] || {{p|Torterra}}* || 65 || [[Holm of Trials]] || All || All
|-
| 407 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{poison color}}; background: #{{grass color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 407.png|30px]] || {{p|Roserade}}* || 50 || [[Cloudpool Ridge]] || Daytime || All
|-
| 416 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{flying color}}; background: #{{bug color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 416.png|30px]] || {{p|Vespiquen}} || 61 || Near [[Cottonsedge Prairie]] || All || All
|-
| 417 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{electric color}}; background: #{{electric color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 417.png|30px]] || {{p|Pachirisu}} || 40 || Near [[Gapejaw Bog]] || All || All
|-
| 430 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{flying color}}; background: #{{dark color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 430.png|30px]] || {{p|Honchkrow}} || 55 || [[Cloudpool Ridge]] || Nighttime || All
|-
| 435 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{dark color}}; background: #{{poison color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 435.png|30px]] || {{p|Skuntank}} || 45 || [[Scarlet Bog]] || All || All
|-
| 450 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{ground color}}; background: #{{ground color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 450 f.png|30px]] || {{p|Hippowdon}} || 46 || [[Sludge Mound]] || All || All
|-
| 454 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{fighting color}}; background: #{{poison color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 454.png|30px]] || {{p|Toxicroak}} || 47 || [[Holm of Trials]] || All || All
|-
| 455 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{grass color}}; background: #{{grass color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 455.png|30px]] || {{p|Carnivine}} || 43 || Near [[Cottonsedge Prairie]] || All || All
|-
| 463 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{normal color}}; background: #{{normal color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 463.png|30px]] || {{p|Lickilicky}} || 52 || [[Shrouded Ruins]] || All || All
|-
| 465 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{grass color}}; background: #{{grass color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 465.png|30px]] || {{p|Tangrowth}}* || 45 || [[Gapejaw Bog]] || All || All
|-
| 469 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{flying color}}; background: #{{bug color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 469.png|30px]] || {{p|Yanmega}} || 58 || [[Droning Meadow]] || All || All
|-
| 705 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{dragon color}}; background: #{{steel color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 705H.png|30px]] || {{p|Sliggoo}} || 50 || [[Holm of Trials]] || All || All
|}
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===[[Cobalt Coastlands]]===

{| class="roundtable sortable" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{locationcolor/light|ocean}}; border: 3px solid #{{locationcolor/dark|ocean}}"
! #
! colspan="2" |Pokémon
! Level
! Sub-Location
! Time of Day
! Weather
|-
| 038 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{fire color}}; background: #{{fire color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 038.png|30px]] || {{p|Ninetales}}* || 61 || [[Firespit Island]] || All || All
|-
| 055 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{water color}}; background: #{{water color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 055.png|30px]] || {{p|Golduck}} || 50 || [[Bather's Lagoon]] || All || All
|-
| 067 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{fighting color}}; background: #{{fighting color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 067.png|30px]] || {{p|Machoke}} || 40 || Near [[Ginkgo Landing]] || All || All
|-
| 073 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{poison color}}; background: #{{water color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 073.png|30px]] || {{p|Tentacruel}} || 50 || Near [[Lunker's Lair]] || All || All
|-
| 113 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{normal color}}; background: #{{normal color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 113.png|30px]] || {{p|Chansey}} || 51 || [[Tombolo Walk]] || All || All
|-
| 130 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{flying color}}; background: #{{water color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 130.png|30px]] || {{p|Gyarados}} || 58 || Near [[Lunker's Lair]] || All || All
|-
| 224 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{water color}}; background: #{{water color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 224.png|30px]] || {{p|Octillery}} || 46 || [[Castaway Shore]] || All || All
|-
| 226 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{water color}}; background: #{{water color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 226.png|30px]] || {{p|Mantine}} || 50 || [[Tranquility Cove]] || All || All
|-
| 365 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{water color}}; background: #{{ice color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 365.png|30px]] || {{p|Walrein}} || 50 || [[Ginkgo Landing]] || All || All
|-
| 395 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{steel color}}; background: #{{water color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 395.png|30px]] || {{p|Empoleon}}* || 69 || [[Islespy Shore]] || All || All
|-
| 414 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{flying color}}; background: #{{bug color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 414.png|30px]] || {{p|Mothim}} || 56 || [[Spring Path]] || All || All
|-
| 423 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{ground color}}; background: #{{water color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 423E.png|30px]] || {{p|Gastrodon}} || 61 || [[Seagrass Haven]] || All || All
|-
| 424 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{normal color}}; background: #{{normal color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 424.png|30px]] || {{p|Ambipom}} || 50 || Near [[Hideaway Bay]] || All || All
|-
| 432 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{normal color}}; background: #{{normal color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 432.png|30px]] || {{p|Purugly}} || 45 || [[Veilstone Cape]] || All || All
|-
| 452 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{dark color}}; background: #{{poison color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 452.png|30px]] || {{p|Drapion}}* || 45 || Near [[Ginkgo Landing]] || All || All
|-
| 457 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{water color}}; background: #{{water color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 457.png|30px]] || {{p|Lumineon}} || 60 || [[Seagrass Haven]] || All || All
|-
| 477 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{ghost color}}; background: #{{ghost color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 477.png|30px]] || {{p|Dusknoir}}* || 65 || [[Deadwood Haunt]] || Nighttime || All
|}
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===[[Coronet Highlands]]===

{| class="roundtable sortable" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{locationcolor/light|mountain}}; border: 3px solid #{{locationcolor/dark|mountain}}"
! #
! colspan="2" |Pokémon
! Level
! Sub-Location
! Time of Day
! Weather
|-
| 036 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{fairy color}}; background: #{{fairy color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 036.png|30px]] || {{p|Clefable}}* || 62 || [[Fabled Spring]] || Nighttime || All
|-
| 076 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{ground color}}; background: #{{rock color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 076.png|30px]] || {{p|Golem}}* || 60 || [[Bolderoll Ravine]] || All || All
|-
| 169 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{flying color}}; background: #{{poison color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 169.png|30px]] || {{p|Crobat}} || 60 || [[Wayward Cave]] || All || All
|-
| 207 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{flying color}}; background: #{{ground color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 207.png|30px]] || {{p|Gligar}} || 60 || [[Clamberclaw Cliffs]] || All || All
|-
| 208 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{steel color}}; background: #{{ground color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 208.png|30px]] || {{p|Steelix}}* || 60 || [[Celestica Trail]] || All || All
|-
| 405 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{electric color}}; background: #{{electric color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 405.png|30px]] || {{p|Luxray}} || 55 || [[Sacred Plaza]] || All || All
|-
| 414 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{flying color}}; background: #{{bug color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 414.png|30px]] || {{p|Mothim}} || 55 || [[Wayward Wood]] || All || All
|-
| 429 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{ghost color}}; background: #{{ghost color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 429.png|30px]] || {{p|Mismagius}}* || 61 || [[Stonetooth Rows]] || Nighttime || All
|-
| 437 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{psychic color}}; background: #{{steel color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 437.png|30px]] || {{p|Bronzong}} || 55 || Near [[Clamberclaw Cliffs]] || All || All
|-
| 444 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{ground color}}; background: #{{dragon color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 444.png|30px]] || {{p|Gabite}} || 56 || Near [[Celestica Ruins]] || All || All
|-
| 455 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{ground color}}; background: #{{dragon color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 455.png|30px]] || {{p|Carnivine}} || 56 || Near [[Lonely Spring]] || All || All
|-
| 464 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{rock color}}; background: #{{ground color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 464.png|30px]] || {{p|Rhyperior}}* || 74 || [[Sacred Plaza]] || All || All
|-
| 466 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{electric color}}; background: #{{electric color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 466.png|30px]] || {{p|Electivire}}* || 69 || [[Cloudcap Pass]] || All || All
|-
| 472 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{flying color}}; background: #{{ground color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 472.png|30px]] || {{p|Gliscor}}* || 77 || Near [[Primeval Grotto]] || All || All
|-
| 476 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{steel color}}; background: #{{rock color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 476.png|30px]] || {{p|Probopass}}* || 73 || Near [[Primeval Grotto]] || All || All
|-
| 706 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{dragon color}}; background: #{{steel color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 706H.png|30px]] || {{p|Goodra}}* || 70 || [[Ancient Quarry]] || All || All
|}
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===[[Alabaster Icelands]]===

{| class="roundtable sortable" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{locationcolor/light|snow}}; border: 3px solid #{{locationcolor/dark|snow}}"
! #
! colspan="2" |Pokémon
! Level
! Sub-Location
! Time of Day
! Weather
|-
| 068 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{fighting color}}; background: #{{fighting color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 068.png|30px]] || {{p|Machamp}}* || 70 || [[Arena's Approach]] || All || All
|-
| 125 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{electric color}}; background: #{{electric color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 125.png|30px]] || {{p|Electabuzz}} || 65 || [[Icebound Falls]] || All || All
|-
| 215 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{poison color}}; background: #{{fighting color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 215H.png|30px]] || {{p|Sneasel}} || 61 || Near [[Avalugg's Legacy]] || All || All
|-
| 220 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{ground color}}; background: #{{ice color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 220.png|30px]] || {{p|Swinub}} || 62 || Near [[Bonechill Wastes]] || All || All
|-
| 221 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{ground color}}; background: #{{ice color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 221.png|30px]] || {{p|Piloswine}} || 65 || [[Arena's Approach]] || All || All
|-
| 282 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{fairy color}}; background: #{{psychic color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 282.png|30px]] || {{p|Gardevoir}}* || 70 || [[Heart's Crag]] || Daytime || All
|-
| 358 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{psychic color}}; background: #{{psychic color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 358.png|30px]] || {{p|Chimecho}} || 65 || Near [[Lake Acuity]] || All || All
|-
| 362 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{ice color}}; background: #{{ice color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 362.png|30px]] || {{p|Glalie}} || 62 || [[Bonechill Wastes]] || All || All
|-
| 445 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{ground color}}; background: #{{dragon color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 445.png|30px]] || {{p|Garchomp}}* || 85 || [[Avalanche Slopes]] || All || All
|-
| 448 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{steel color}}; background: #{{fighting color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 448.png|30px]] || {{p|Lucario}} || 70 || [[Icebound Falls]] || All || All
|-
| 460 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{ice color}}; background: #{{grass color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 460.png|30px]] || {{p|Abomasnow}} || 68 || [[Bonechill Wastes]] || All || All
|-
| 473 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{ground color}}; background: #{{ice color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 473.png|30px]] || {{p|Mamoswine}}* || 68 || [[Avalugg's Legacy]] || All || All
|-
| 475 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{fighting color}}; background: #{{psychic color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 475.png|30px]] || {{p|Gallade}}* || 70 || [[Snowpoint Temple]] || All || All
|-
| 478 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{ghost color}}; background: #{{ice color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 478.png|30px]] || {{p|Froslass}} || 72 || [[Ice Column Chamber]] || All || All
|}
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===[[List of in-game event Pokémon (Legends: Arceus)#Alpha Pokémon|Unique alpha Pokémon]]===
These unique alpha Pokémon can only be found once. They may or may not have features that set them apart from other Pokémon of the same species.
{| class="roundtable sortable" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{Legends: Arceus color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{Legends: Arceus color dark}}"
! #
! colspan="2" |Pokémon
! Level
! Sub-Location
! Mission
|-
| 362 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{ice color}}; background: #{{ice color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 362.png|30px]] || {{p|Glalie}} || 64 || [[Alabaster Icelands]] || Request 86 "[[Task#Requests|Gone Astray...in the Icelands]]"
|-
| 402 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{bug color}}; background: #{{bug color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 402.png|30px]] || {{p|Kricketune}} || 12 || [[Deertrack Heights]] || Mission 5 "[[Task#Missions|A Request from Mai]]"
|-
| 416 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{flying color}}; background: #{{bug color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 416.png|30px]] || {{p|Vespiquen}} || 60 || [[Grueling Grove]] || Mission 21 "[[Task#Missions|The Researcher of Myths]]"
|-
| 571 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{ghost color}}; background: #{{normal color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 571H.png|30px]] || {{p|Zoroark}} || 58 || [[Acuity Cavern]] || Mission 17 "[[Task#Missions|The Trial of Lake Acuity]]"
|-
| 706 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{dragon color}}; background: #{{steel color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 706H.png|30px]] || {{p|Goodra}} || 58 || [[Verity Cavern]] || Mission 15 "[[Task#Missions|The Trial of Lake Verity]]"
|-
| 904 || style="{{roundy|96px}} border: 2px solid #{{poison color}}; background: #{{dark color light}};"| [[File:Menu LA 904.png|30px]] || {{p|Overqwil}}* || 58 || [[Valor Cavern]] || Mission 16 "[[Task#Missions|The Trial of Lake Valor]]"
|}
{{-}}

==Trivia==
* Since most fixed alpha spawns are [[Evolution|evolved]] Pokémon, alpha forms of many pre-evolved species are considered to be more rare and valuable, if left unevolved.
* There is a third variant of the Wild Might effect called '''Terrific Might''' (Japanese: '''偉大な力''') which is a version of Wild Might without the stat boosts. Its usage within the game is unknown.

===Origin===
Alpha Pokémon might be based on the debunked concept of the same name found in biology. Amongst animal groups, an alpha is a member of the species that has a higher rank in the group's hierarchy, contrary to the Beta members who are the more submissive ones. Alpha animals often employ aggression tactics to assert dominance and leadership over their specific groups. This can be seen in gameplay where alpha Pokémon can display an aggressive disposition even when normal members of said species would not. They also serve as leaders of the pack, as alpha Pokémon are regularly found in places where unevolved members of their species gather, and even show signs of territorialism, as some alpha Pokémon tend to come to the aid of the lesser members when alerted. Their Japanese name "Boss" reinforces this idea of hierarchical leadership.

==Related articles==
* [[Creation trio]]
* [[Legendary Pokémon]]
* [[Giant Pokémon]]

==In other languages==
{|
|- style="vertical-align:top"
|
''Alpha Pokémon''
{{Langtable|color={{Legends Arceus color}}|bordercolor={{Legends Arceus color dark}}
|zh_yue=頭目 ''{{tt|Tàuhmuhk|Head}}''
|zh_cmn=頭目 / 头目 ''{{tt|Tóumù|Head}}''
|fr=Pokémon Barons
|de=Elite-Pokémon
|it=Pokémon alfa
|ko=우두머리 ''{{tt|Udumeori|Boss}}''
|es=Espécimenes alfa
}}
|- style="vertical-align:top"
|
''Wild Might''
{{Langtable|color={{Legends Arceus color}}|bordercolor={{Legends Arceus color dark}}
|zh_yue=野性之力 ''{{tt|Yéhsing-jī Lihk|Wild Strength}}''
|zh_cmn=野性之力 ''{{tt|Yěxìng-zhī Lì|Wild Strength}}''
|fr=Force sauvage
|de=Kraft der Wildnis
|it=Potenza selvatica
|ko=야성의힘이 ''{{tt|Yaseong-ui Himi|Wild Strength}}''
|es=Poder salvaje
}}
|
''Terrible Might''
{{Langtable|color={{Legends Arceus color}}|bordercolor={{Legends Arceus color dark}}
|zh_yue=驚駭之力 ''{{tt|Gīngháaih-jī Lihk|Frightening Strength}}''
|zh_cmn=驚駭之力 / 惊骇之力 ''{{tt|Jīnghài-zhī Lì|Frightening Strength}}''
|fr=Force effroyable
|de=Unheilvolle Kraft
|it=Potenza spaventosa
|ko=무시무시한힘 ''{{tt|Musimusihan Himi|Frightening Strength}}''
|es=Poder tremebundo
}}
|}
{{-}}
{{Project Games notice}}

[[Category:Pokémon Legends: Arceus]]
[[Category:Variant Pokémon]]
[[Category:Giant Pokémon]]

[[de:Elite-Pokémon]]
[[es:Pokémon alfa]]
[[ja:オヤブン]]
[[zh:头目]]

Little Battle

2014-12-16T09:59:07Z

BlueJoshi:

'''Little Battle''' is a special rule used in [[Pokémon Battle Revolution]], unlocked after beating [[Mysterial]] and can be played in [[Sunny Park Colosseum]]. It differs very little from a standard knockout battle besides the fact that the Pokémon used must all be at or below [[level]] 5 and must be the lowest form of their [[evolution]] family as well as be able to evolve. Moves that deal a fixed amount of damage such as {{m|SonicBoom}} are banned. These rules make it almost an updated version of [[Pokémon Stadium 2]]'s [[Little Cup]]. It is designed to test the Trainer's {{pkmn|breeding|Pokémon breeding skills}}.

{{Stub|Game}} 
{{Project Games notice}}

[[Category:Battle modes]]

[[ja:リトルバトル]]

Sand tile

2012-02-28T03:32:23Z

BlueJoshi: /* In battle */ Brevity

A '''sand tile''' is a special tile that can be found in the beach and [[desert]] areas of the [[Pokémon games]]. There are two types of sand tile: regular and deep.

==Normal sand==
Normal sand does not have any wild Pokémon, so it very similar to a regular tile. Walking or running over sand leaves footprints, while [[bicycle|cycling]] leaves a tire track; both disappear shortly after appearing.

==Deep sand==
[[File:Rse sand.png|frame|right|Deep sand]]
Deep sand is a special type of sand that appears in {{game5|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald|Black|White}}. By entering patches of deep sand, wild Pokémon may appear and battle the player, making it the desert equivalent of [[tall grass]]. In [[Hoenn]], it is found in the [[desert]] section of {{rt|111|Hoenn}}. In [[Unova]], it is found on {{rt|4|Unova}} and in the [[Desert Resort]]. In Generation V, it slows down the [[bicycle]] to speeds slower than the walking speed.

===Technical mechanics===
The rate of Pokémon encounter is determined from a simple mathematical formula:

<big>''1 in (187.5 / ( x )) per step''</big>

Let ''x'' equal the a value which determines how rare the Pokémon is. The higher the encounter rate, the more common the Pokémon is.

{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{locationcolor/med|sand}}; border:3px solid #{{locationcolor/light|sand}};"
|-
! colspan="2" align="center" style="{{roundytop|5px}} background: #{{locationcolor/med|sand}}"|Encounter-rate table
|- style="background: #{{locationcolor/med|sand}};"
! Encounter Type
! Encounter Rate
|- style="background: #fff;" align="center"
| Very Common
| 10
|- style="background: #{{locationcolor/light|sand}};" align="center"
| Common
| 8.5
|- style="background: #fff;" align="center"
| Semi-Rare
| 6.75
|- style="background: #{{locationcolor/light|sand}};" align="center"
| Rare
| 3.33
|- align="center"
| style="background: #fff; {{roundybl|5px}}"|Very Rare
| style="background: #fff; {{roundybr|5px}}"|1.25
|}

==In battle==
In Generation III, IV, and V, sand gives {{m|Secret Power}} a 30% chance of lowering its target's {{stat|Accuracy}} and gives it the appearance of {{m|Mud Shot}}; it causes {{m|Nature Power}} to become {{m|Earthquake}}.

{{m|Camouflage}} makes the user {{type|Ground}} when used on sand.

{{-}}
{{Special tiles}} 
{{Project Games notice|game mechanic}}

[[it:Mattonella di sabbia]]

Personality value

2012-02-08T06:09:51Z

BlueJoshi: /* Unown's letter (Gen III only) */

A Pokémon's '''personality value''' is an {{wp|Signedness|unsigned}} {{wp|32-bit}} {{wp|Integer (computer science)|integer}} that is created when the Pokémon is first encountered; it is set as soon as the Pokémon appears in the wild, the Pokémon's egg is received from the {{pkmn|Day Care}} man or another [[Non-player character|NPC]], or the Pokémon itself is received from an NPC. As an unsigned 32-bit integer, its value can be anywhere between 0 and 4,294,967,295 inclusive, represented as a string of thirty-two 0's and thirty-two 1's in binary, respectively. This value was introduced with the [[Pokémon data structure in the GBA|Pokémon data structure]] overhaul that occurred at the start of [[Generation III]], and is generated using the games' [[Pseudo-random number generation in Pokémon|pseudorandom number generator]].

For each operation, the portion of the 32-bit value used will be indicated at the beginning of the section by highlighting, unless the full value is used. The integer's full value will be known as ''p'', other values will be declared as ''px'', ''py'', and so on. Much of this article will be discussing values in binary.

==Gender==
<code>00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000</code>

A Pokémon's [[gender]] is determined by the lowest eight digits (a byte) of ''p'' in binary form; essentially, <code>''p'' [[wp:modulo operation|%]] 256</code>. This value will, from here on out, be known as ''pgender''.

In a Pokémon species's [[Pokémon base stats data structure in the GBA|base stat structure]], there is a byte called the ''gender threshold'', with a value between <code>00000000</code> and <code>11111111</code>. For genderless Pokémon such as {{p|Magnemite}}, the value of this byte is <code>11111111</code>. For female only Pokémon such as {{p|Nidoran♀}}, the value of this byte is <code>11111110</code>. For male only Pokémon such as {{p|Nidoran♂}}, the value of this byte is <code>00000000</code>. Pokémon with ''both'' genders occupy the rest of the spectrum. For these Pokémon, if the value of ''pgender'' is equal to or greater than that of the base stat value (the gender threshold), the Pokémon is male, otherwise it is female.

{| border=1 align="left" style="background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background: #C0C0FF;"
! colspan="2" | Base stat value
! colspan="2" | Gender ratio
|- style="background: #C0C0FF;"
! Binary
! Decimal
! Male
! Female
|- align="center"
| <code>11111111</code>
| 255
| colspan="2" | Genderless
|- align="center"
| <code>11111110</code>
| 254
| 0%
| 100%
|- align="center"
| <code>11011111</code>
| 223
| 12.5%
| 87.5%
|- align="center"
| <code>10111111</code>
| 191
| 25%
| 75%
|- align="center"
| <code>01111111</code>
| 127
| 50%
| 50%
|- align="center"
| <code>00111111</code>
| 63
| 75%
| 25%
|- align="center"
| <code>00011111</code>
| 31
| 87.5%
| 12.5%
|- align="center"
| <code>00000000</code>
| 0
| 100%
| 0%
|}
 

==Ability==
If ''p'' is even, that Pokémon has the first [[Ability]] for its species. If it's odd, it has the second. If a species has only one Ability while ''p'' is odd, it gets the only Ability it can. Pokémon transferred from [[Generation III]] to [[Generation IV]] or [[Generation V]] that can get one of the new Abilities will retain the Ability they had in the previous generation; however, if they are evolved and their personality value is odd, they will get the new Ability upon evolution. For example, a {{p|Porygon}} that has the Ability Trace is brought to a Generation IV game. If it then evolves into {{p|Porygon2}}, it may keep Trace (if ''p'' is even), or it may switch to the Ability {{a|Download}} (if ''p'' is odd). The reason this happens is because although the Ability is initially determined by the personality value, the Ability is stored as a separate value in the [[Pokémon data structure in Generation IV|Pokémon data]], and alongside the IVs in Generation III. When the Pokémon evolves in Generation IV, the personality value is rechecked, and a new Ability assigned.

Note that a separate bit governs whether a Pokémon has their normal Abilities or Hidden Abilities in [[Generation V]]; the personality value of a Pokémon is always set to have its first Ability in this case, so as to allow the inclusion of a second Hidden Ability in a future generation.

==Nature==
A Pokémon's [[nature]] is determined by <code>''p'' % 25</code>.

The number acquired as the remainder corresponds to the personality as follows:

{| border=1 align="left" style="background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background: #C0C0FF;"
! ''p'' % 25
! Nature
|-
|0
|Hardy
|-
|1
|Lonely
|-
|2
|Brave
|-
|3
|Adamant
|-
|4
|Naughty
|-
|5
|Bold
|-
|6
|Docile
|-
|7
|Relaxed
|-
|8
|Impish
|-
|9
|Lax
|-
|10
|Timid
|-
|11
|Hasty
|-
|12
|Serious
|-
|13
|Jolly
|-
|14
|Naive
|-
|15
|Modest
|-
|16
|Mild
|-
|17
|Quiet
|-
|18
|Bashful
|-
|19
|Rash
|-
|20
|Calm
|-
|21
|Gentle
|-
|22
|Sassy
|-
|23
|Careful
|-
|24
|Quirky
|}
 

==Shininess==
<code>00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000</code>
:The red value will be represented as ''p1'', while the blue value will be represented as ''p2''.

Whether a Pokémon is {{Shiny}} or not depends on the values of the [[Trainer ID number]], [[secret ID number]], and personality value. There is an [[Shiny Pokémon#Generations III and IV|8 in 65536 chance]] (0.012207% or 2-13) of a Pokémon being Shiny (which simplifies to 1/8192).

Variables ''E'' and ''F'' are declared to hold the values that result.

A bitwise {{wp|exclusive or}} (''xor'') operation (such as ''a'' xor ''b'' = ''c'') is equivalent to saying "If each bit of ''a'' ≠ ''b'', ''c'' is true." In other words, 11010111 xor 01101010 = 10111101. Each xor in the operation is a bitwise xor.

''E'' = ''IDTrainer'' xor ''IDSecret''

''F'' = ''p1'' xor ''p2''

''E'' xor ''F'' < 8 , then ''Shiny''

===Example===
As an example, let's take a Trainer whose Trainer ID is 24294 and whose Secret ID is 38834.

''IDTrainer'' = 24294 = 0101111011100110 in binary.

''IDSecret'' = 38834 = 1001011110110010 in binary.

This Trainer encounters a Pokémon whose personality value is 2814471828.

''p'' = 2814471828 = 1010011111000001 0110111010010100 in binary.

''p1'' = 1010011111000001

''p2'' = 0110111010010100

The ''E'' value is 0101111011100110 xor 1001011110110010

''E'' = 1100100101010100

The ''F'' value is 1010011111000001 xor 0110111010010100

''F'' = 1100100101010101

''E'' xor ''F'' = 0000000000000001, which is less than eight. Therefore, this Pokémon is Shiny.

==Spinda's spots==
<code>00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000</code>

{{p|Spinda}} has four spots: two on its face, and one on each of its ears. Each of the four bytes represents the coordinates of the spot on Spinda's face or ears. The first four digits of each byte represents the x-coordinate of the top left of the spot when translated into decimal notation, while the last four represent the y-coordinate of the top left of the spot when translated into decimal. There are [[Spinda (Pokémon)#Trivia|4,294,967,296 different]] spot variations.

==Unown's letter (Gen III only)==
<code>00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000</code>

''pletter'' = <code>00000000</code>

{{p|Unown}}'s letter (in [[Generation III]], for [[Generation II]] see [[individual values]]) is taken from the modulus of the combination of the least significant 2 bits of each byte in ''p''. With A representing 0, and each letter thereafter representing the following number value (? as 26 and ! as 27), the letter can be determined by:

<code>''up'' = ''pletter'' % 28</code>

In Gens IV and V Unown's letter is determined by a separate byte, unrelated to the personality value.

==Wurmple's evolution==
<code>00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000</code>

The value in red will be known as ''pw''; it is essentially <code>''p'' % 65536</code>.

{{p|Wurmple}}'s evolution does not depend on time of day, despite what many guides say. In fact, the evolution is determined by taking <code>''pw'' % 10</code>. If the remainder is less than 5, Wurmple will become a {{p|Silcoon}}, and if it is greater than or equal to 5, it will become a {{p|Cascoon}}.

==Performance changes==
The day-to-day [[performance]] of a Pokémon, for the purposes of the [[Pokéathlon]], depends on the personality value as well as the day of the month. It also depends on nature, which is also calculated based on personality value. The five least significant digits govern, from least significant to most significant, Power, Stamina, Skill, Jump, and Speed.

The change in performance in a particular attribute is calculated as the sum of the following factors:
*'''The day of month modifier''': This modifier depends on the day of the month and one particular digit of the personality value (determined based on the attribute in question). It is calculated as (((''Day'' + ''Attribute'' + 3) × (''Day'' - ''Attribute'' + 7) + ''Personality'') mod 10) × 2 - 9, where:
** ''Attribute'' is 0 for Power, 1 for Stamina, 2 for Skill, 3 for Jump, and 4 for Speed
** ''Personality'' is the relevant value of the particular digit
*'''The nature modifier''': This modifier depends on the nature of the Pokémon. Each of the neutral natures raise one attribute by 10 points while lowering another by 10 points, while the other 20 natures each raise one attribute by 35 points while lowering another by 35 points, based on which [[stats]] they normally raise and lower.
*'''The Aprijuice modifier''': This modifier depends on the [[Aprijuice]] applied to the Pokémon. The Pokémon receives 1.5× the flavor values in the attributes corresponding to the strongest and second-strongest flavors of the Aprijuice, an additional 10-point bonus in the strongest flavor of the Aprijuice, and a penalty to the attribute corresponding to the weakest flavor of the Aprijuice based on its mildness and the sum of the Aprijuice's two strongest flavors (see [[Apriblender]] for further details).

Note that the day of month modifier is at most -9 and at most +9 (and only takes on odd values therein). Also as a result, the day of month modifier cycles every 10 days ('''exception''': for Power and Speed, the modifiers in effect for the first day of each month are different from those of Day 11, Day 21, and Day 31, though the latter three have the same modifiers).

Also, since nature is also determined by the last two digits of the personality value, the nature of a Pokémon will constrain the day of month modifier in Power (and to a lesser extent, Stamina) for a Pokémon. For example, a Hardy {{p|Wurmple}} (last digit 0 or 5) will never get a +9 or a +7 from a day of month modifier in Power; if it evolves into a {{p|Cascoon}} (the last digit is 5) it furthermore entails that its best performance will be on the first day of each month, barring Aprijuice factors (as it has its sole +5 boost on the first day on each month)—in contrast, a Hardy {{p|Silcoon}} will have a +5 boost six times a month (on days ending with 4 or 6).

{| {{bluetable2}}
! Attribute !! Attribute modifier !! Personality digit !! Neutral nature +10 !! Neutral nature -10 !! Other nature stat
|-
| Power || 0 || Ones || Hardy || Bashful || Attack
|-
| Stamina || 1 || Tens || Docile || Quirky || Defense
|-
| Skill || 2 || Hundreds || Quirky || Serious || Sp. Def
|-
| Jump || 3 || Thousands || Bashful || Docile || Sp. Atk
|-
| Speed || 4 || Ten-thousands || Serious || Hardy || Speed
|}

Note that the association of Skill and Jump to natures is reversed relative to a Pokémon's preferred flavors. That is, a Pokémon which prefers dry food will have a +35 boost in Jump (otherwise associated with bitter foods) rather than Skill. However, giving this Pokémon a dry Aprijuice will boost its Skill, rather than its Jump.

The calculated value is then translated into a difference in stars as follows:
{| {{bluetable2}}
! Stars
| -4 || -3 || -2 || -1 || 0 || 1 || 2 || 3 || 4
|-
! Score
| < -120 || -119 - -80 || -79 - -40 || -39 - -15 || -14 - 14 || 15 - 39 || 40 - 79 || 80 - 119 || > 120
|}

Note that performance changes may not drop below the Pokémon's minimum performance rating, nor may it exceeds the Pokémon's maximum performance rating. Thus, for example, a {{p|Cradily}} may never have its Speed or Jump rating improved or degraded as those attributes are fixed (as such, for example, it is advisable to give it dry Aprijuices for which sweetness or bitterness is its weakest flavor).


{{Project Games notice|game mechanic}}

[[Category:Game mechanics]]

[[de:Personality Value]]
[[fr:Personality Value]]
[[ja:性格値]]

Personality value

2012-02-08T06:06:32Z

BlueJoshi: /* Ability */

A Pokémon's '''personality value''' is an {{wp|Signedness|unsigned}} {{wp|32-bit}} {{wp|Integer (computer science)|integer}} that is created when the Pokémon is first encountered; it is set as soon as the Pokémon appears in the wild, the Pokémon's egg is received from the {{pkmn|Day Care}} man or another [[Non-player character|NPC]], or the Pokémon itself is received from an NPC. As an unsigned 32-bit integer, its value can be anywhere between 0 and 4,294,967,295 inclusive, represented as a string of thirty-two 0's and thirty-two 1's in binary, respectively. This value was introduced with the [[Pokémon data structure in the GBA|Pokémon data structure]] overhaul that occurred at the start of [[Generation III]], and is generated using the games' [[Pseudo-random number generation in Pokémon|pseudorandom number generator]].

For each operation, the portion of the 32-bit value used will be indicated at the beginning of the section by highlighting, unless the full value is used. The integer's full value will be known as ''p'', other values will be declared as ''px'', ''py'', and so on. Much of this article will be discussing values in binary.

==Gender==
<code>00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000</code>

A Pokémon's [[gender]] is determined by the lowest eight digits (a byte) of ''p'' in binary form; essentially, <code>''p'' [[wp:modulo operation|%]] 256</code>. This value will, from here on out, be known as ''pgender''.

In a Pokémon species's [[Pokémon base stats data structure in the GBA|base stat structure]], there is a byte called the ''gender threshold'', with a value between <code>00000000</code> and <code>11111111</code>. For genderless Pokémon such as {{p|Magnemite}}, the value of this byte is <code>11111111</code>. For female only Pokémon such as {{p|Nidoran♀}}, the value of this byte is <code>11111110</code>. For male only Pokémon such as {{p|Nidoran♂}}, the value of this byte is <code>00000000</code>. Pokémon with ''both'' genders occupy the rest of the spectrum. For these Pokémon, if the value of ''pgender'' is equal to or greater than that of the base stat value (the gender threshold), the Pokémon is male, otherwise it is female.

{| border=1 align="left" style="background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background: #C0C0FF;"
! colspan="2" | Base stat value
! colspan="2" | Gender ratio
|- style="background: #C0C0FF;"
! Binary
! Decimal
! Male
! Female
|- align="center"
| <code>11111111</code>
| 255
| colspan="2" | Genderless
|- align="center"
| <code>11111110</code>
| 254
| 0%
| 100%
|- align="center"
| <code>11011111</code>
| 223
| 12.5%
| 87.5%
|- align="center"
| <code>10111111</code>
| 191
| 25%
| 75%
|- align="center"
| <code>01111111</code>
| 127
| 50%
| 50%
|- align="center"
| <code>00111111</code>
| 63
| 75%
| 25%
|- align="center"
| <code>00011111</code>
| 31
| 87.5%
| 12.5%
|- align="center"
| <code>00000000</code>
| 0
| 100%
| 0%
|}
 

==Ability==
If ''p'' is even, that Pokémon has the first [[Ability]] for its species. If it's odd, it has the second. If a species has only one Ability while ''p'' is odd, it gets the only Ability it can. Pokémon transferred from [[Generation III]] to [[Generation IV]] or [[Generation V]] that can get one of the new Abilities will retain the Ability they had in the previous generation; however, if they are evolved and their personality value is odd, they will get the new Ability upon evolution. For example, a {{p|Porygon}} that has the Ability Trace is brought to a Generation IV game. If it then evolves into {{p|Porygon2}}, it may keep Trace (if ''p'' is even), or it may switch to the Ability {{a|Download}} (if ''p'' is odd). The reason this happens is because although the Ability is initially determined by the personality value, the Ability is stored as a separate value in the [[Pokémon data structure in Generation IV|Pokémon data]], and alongside the IVs in Generation III. When the Pokémon evolves in Generation IV, the personality value is rechecked, and a new Ability assigned.

Note that a separate bit governs whether a Pokémon has their normal Abilities or Hidden Abilities in [[Generation V]]; the personality value of a Pokémon is always set to have its first Ability in this case, so as to allow the inclusion of a second Hidden Ability in a future generation.

==Nature==
A Pokémon's [[nature]] is determined by <code>''p'' % 25</code>.

The number acquired as the remainder corresponds to the personality as follows:

{| border=1 align="left" style="background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background: #C0C0FF;"
! ''p'' % 25
! Nature
|-
|0
|Hardy
|-
|1
|Lonely
|-
|2
|Brave
|-
|3
|Adamant
|-
|4
|Naughty
|-
|5
|Bold
|-
|6
|Docile
|-
|7
|Relaxed
|-
|8
|Impish
|-
|9
|Lax
|-
|10
|Timid
|-
|11
|Hasty
|-
|12
|Serious
|-
|13
|Jolly
|-
|14
|Naive
|-
|15
|Modest
|-
|16
|Mild
|-
|17
|Quiet
|-
|18
|Bashful
|-
|19
|Rash
|-
|20
|Calm
|-
|21
|Gentle
|-
|22
|Sassy
|-
|23
|Careful
|-
|24
|Quirky
|}
 

==Shininess==
<code>00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000</code>
:The red value will be represented as ''p1'', while the blue value will be represented as ''p2''.

Whether a Pokémon is {{Shiny}} or not depends on the values of the [[Trainer ID number]], [[secret ID number]], and personality value. There is an [[Shiny Pokémon#Generations III and IV|8 in 65536 chance]] (0.012207% or 2-13) of a Pokémon being Shiny (which simplifies to 1/8192).

Variables ''E'' and ''F'' are declared to hold the values that result.

A bitwise {{wp|exclusive or}} (''xor'') operation (such as ''a'' xor ''b'' = ''c'') is equivalent to saying "If each bit of ''a'' ≠ ''b'', ''c'' is true." In other words, 11010111 xor 01101010 = 10111101. Each xor in the operation is a bitwise xor.

''E'' = ''IDTrainer'' xor ''IDSecret''

''F'' = ''p1'' xor ''p2''

''E'' xor ''F'' < 8 , then ''Shiny''

===Example===
As an example, let's take a Trainer whose Trainer ID is 24294 and whose Secret ID is 38834.

''IDTrainer'' = 24294 = 0101111011100110 in binary.

''IDSecret'' = 38834 = 1001011110110010 in binary.

This Trainer encounters a Pokémon whose personality value is 2814471828.

''p'' = 2814471828 = 1010011111000001 0110111010010100 in binary.

''p1'' = 1010011111000001

''p2'' = 0110111010010100

The ''E'' value is 0101111011100110 xor 1001011110110010

''E'' = 1100100101010100

The ''F'' value is 1010011111000001 xor 0110111010010100

''F'' = 1100100101010101

''E'' xor ''F'' = 0000000000000001, which is less than eight. Therefore, this Pokémon is Shiny.

==Spinda's spots==
<code>00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000</code>

{{p|Spinda}} has four spots: two on its face, and one on each of its ears. Each of the four bytes represents the coordinates of the spot on Spinda's face or ears. The first four digits of each byte represents the x-coordinate of the top left of the spot when translated into decimal notation, while the last four represent the y-coordinate of the top left of the spot when translated into decimal. There are [[Spinda (Pokémon)#Trivia|4,294,967,296 different]] spot variations.

==Unown's letter (Gen III only)==
<code>00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000</code>

''pletter'' = <code>00000000</code>

{{p|Unown}}'s letter (ever since [[Generation III]], for [[Generation II]] see [[individual values]]) is taken from the modulus of the combination of the least significant 2 bits of each byte in ''p''. With A representing 0, and each letter thereafter representing the following number value (? as 26 and ! as 27), the letter can be determined by:

<code>''up'' = ''pletter'' % 28</code>

In Gens IV and V Unown's letter is determined by a separate byte, unrelated to the personality value.

==Wurmple's evolution==
<code>00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000</code>

The value in red will be known as ''pw''; it is essentially <code>''p'' % 65536</code>.

{{p|Wurmple}}'s evolution does not depend on time of day, despite what many guides say. In fact, the evolution is determined by taking <code>''pw'' % 10</code>. If the remainder is less than 5, Wurmple will become a {{p|Silcoon}}, and if it is greater than or equal to 5, it will become a {{p|Cascoon}}.

==Performance changes==
The day-to-day [[performance]] of a Pokémon, for the purposes of the [[Pokéathlon]], depends on the personality value as well as the day of the month. It also depends on nature, which is also calculated based on personality value. The five least significant digits govern, from least significant to most significant, Power, Stamina, Skill, Jump, and Speed.

The change in performance in a particular attribute is calculated as the sum of the following factors:
*'''The day of month modifier''': This modifier depends on the day of the month and one particular digit of the personality value (determined based on the attribute in question). It is calculated as (((''Day'' + ''Attribute'' + 3) × (''Day'' - ''Attribute'' + 7) + ''Personality'') mod 10) × 2 - 9, where:
** ''Attribute'' is 0 for Power, 1 for Stamina, 2 for Skill, 3 for Jump, and 4 for Speed
** ''Personality'' is the relevant value of the particular digit
*'''The nature modifier''': This modifier depends on the nature of the Pokémon. Each of the neutral natures raise one attribute by 10 points while lowering another by 10 points, while the other 20 natures each raise one attribute by 35 points while lowering another by 35 points, based on which [[stats]] they normally raise and lower.
*'''The Aprijuice modifier''': This modifier depends on the [[Aprijuice]] applied to the Pokémon. The Pokémon receives 1.5× the flavor values in the attributes corresponding to the strongest and second-strongest flavors of the Aprijuice, an additional 10-point bonus in the strongest flavor of the Aprijuice, and a penalty to the attribute corresponding to the weakest flavor of the Aprijuice based on its mildness and the sum of the Aprijuice's two strongest flavors (see [[Apriblender]] for further details).

Note that the day of month modifier is at most -9 and at most +9 (and only takes on odd values therein). Also as a result, the day of month modifier cycles every 10 days ('''exception''': for Power and Speed, the modifiers in effect for the first day of each month are different from those of Day 11, Day 21, and Day 31, though the latter three have the same modifiers).

Also, since nature is also determined by the last two digits of the personality value, the nature of a Pokémon will constrain the day of month modifier in Power (and to a lesser extent, Stamina) for a Pokémon. For example, a Hardy {{p|Wurmple}} (last digit 0 or 5) will never get a +9 or a +7 from a day of month modifier in Power; if it evolves into a {{p|Cascoon}} (the last digit is 5) it furthermore entails that its best performance will be on the first day of each month, barring Aprijuice factors (as it has its sole +5 boost on the first day on each month)—in contrast, a Hardy {{p|Silcoon}} will have a +5 boost six times a month (on days ending with 4 or 6).

{| {{bluetable2}}
! Attribute !! Attribute modifier !! Personality digit !! Neutral nature +10 !! Neutral nature -10 !! Other nature stat
|-
| Power || 0 || Ones || Hardy || Bashful || Attack
|-
| Stamina || 1 || Tens || Docile || Quirky || Defense
|-
| Skill || 2 || Hundreds || Quirky || Serious || Sp. Def
|-
| Jump || 3 || Thousands || Bashful || Docile || Sp. Atk
|-
| Speed || 4 || Ten-thousands || Serious || Hardy || Speed
|}

Note that the association of Skill and Jump to natures is reversed relative to a Pokémon's preferred flavors. That is, a Pokémon which prefers dry food will have a +35 boost in Jump (otherwise associated with bitter foods) rather than Skill. However, giving this Pokémon a dry Aprijuice will boost its Skill, rather than its Jump.

The calculated value is then translated into a difference in stars as follows:
{| {{bluetable2}}
! Stars
| -4 || -3 || -2 || -1 || 0 || 1 || 2 || 3 || 4
|-
! Score
| < -120 || -119 - -80 || -79 - -40 || -39 - -15 || -14 - 14 || 15 - 39 || 40 - 79 || 80 - 119 || > 120
|}

Note that performance changes may not drop below the Pokémon's minimum performance rating, nor may it exceeds the Pokémon's maximum performance rating. Thus, for example, a {{p|Cradily}} may never have its Speed or Jump rating improved or degraded as those attributes are fixed (as such, for example, it is advisable to give it dry Aprijuices for which sweetness or bitterness is its weakest flavor).


{{Project Games notice|game mechanic}}

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Pokémon Trainer

2010-08-07T22:22:38Z

BlueJoshi: /* Intro */

:''For the character in [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]] referred to as "Pokémon Trainer," see [[Red (game)]].''
:''"Trainer" redirects here. For the type of [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]] card, see {{TCG|Trainer card}}.''
----
[[Image:Pokemon trainers.jpg|thumb|Pokémon Trainers ''(clockwise, starting at upper-left)'': a [[Team Aqua]] grunt, {{ga|Blue}}, a [[Team Magma]] grunt, {{ga|May}} and {{ga|Brendan}}.]]
A '''Pokémon Trainer''' (Japanese: '''ポケモントレーナー''' ''Pokémon Trainer'') is a person who {{pkmn2|caught|catches}}, {{pkmn|training|trains}}, cares for and {{pkmn|battle}}s with Pokémon. The majority of people within the known [[Pokémon world]] are Trainers.

==Background==
Many Trainers leave home at about the age of ten, sometimes accompanied with a [[starter Pokémon]] obtained from a [[Pokémon professor]], such as {{prof|Oak}}. Many will travel around one or more [[region]]s, doing such things as gathering information for a [[Pokédex]], perfecting their technique, collecting [[badge]]s, and working to become a [[Pokémon master]]. No matter what their specialties or aims, there is one code that they all follow - when two Trainers make eye contact, they must have a battle.
[[Image:SugimoriTrainers.png|thumb|left|Trainers from different classes: A [[Team Rocket grunts|Grunt]], a [[Lass]], and a [[Bug Catcher]]]]
Pokémon Trainers come in all sorts of [[Trainer class|classes]]: [[Youngster]]s tend to stay close to home, and [[Bug Catcher]]s swarm about the {{t|Bug}}-filled forests; [[Hiker]]s traverse mountains and [[caves]], and [[Ace Trainer]]s aspire to compete in the [[Pokémon League]]. A Trainer's class may reflect their Pokémon of choice, the areas they prefer, their technique, and their level of skill; however, even among their classes, Trainers may vary greatly.

Many towns have a [[Gym]] run by a strong and experienced Trainer known as a [[Gym Leader]]. Other Trainers may challenge a Gym Leader, and if the Gym Leader is defeated in battle, he or she awards them a Pokémon League [[badge]]. However, the Gym Leader may award the Trainer a badge for other reasons, since the badge is a symbol of the Trainer's skill. For example, [[Ash Ketchum]] won several of his early badges by refusing to take an unfair advantage or going out of his way to save a gym, which proved himself as an exceptional Trainer outside of battle.

Above the level of Gym Leaders are the [[Elite Four]] Trainers and {{pkmn|champion|Pokémon League champions}}. There are also a special class of Trainers known as the [[Frontier Brain]]s, but they are unique to {{game|Emerald}}, {{game|Platinum}}, and {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}} and part of a privately owned institution known as the [[Battle Frontier]], and so may not be recognized by the League. These Trainers are considered the cream of the crop, and can only be challenged if a Trainer has met requirements such as winning eight badges. Should a Trainer defeat other Trainers at this level, it is not uncommon for him or her to be offered a place in these high ranks.

However, just as there are many Trainers with noble goals and lawful methods, there are also corrupt Trainers, including a number of [[villainous team]]s. These Trainers often use powerful Pokémon to take what they want and further their plans.

== Super Smash Bros. Brawl ==
{{main|Red (game)#In the Super Smash Bros. series|Red}}
There is a {{player|playable character}} called "Pokémon Trainer" in the game [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]. His appearance is based on {{ga|Red}}'s [[Generation III]] design, and he uses {{p|Squirtle|me}}{{p|Ivysaur|mb}}{{p|Charizard|ers}} of the [[evolution]] families of the [[Kanto]] {{pkmn2|starter}}s to battle against the others.

==Trivia==
* For ''[[DP005|Gettin' Twiggy With It!]]'', [[Professor Oak's lecture]] is about the Pokémon Trainer. He writes this [[Pokémon senryū]] about it: さあ10さい　ぼくもわたしも　トレーナー ''Sā jussai, boku mo watashi mo torēnā.'' "Ah, the age 10; we will all be Trainers."
* Even though it's stated in the anime that a person may not become a Trainer until the age of 10, there are many Trainers that are obviously below the minimum age, such as the [[Twins|Twins Trainer class]] and the [[Tuber|Tuber Trainer class]].

===In other languages===
*Chinese (Cantonese): 寵物小精靈訓練員 (''Chungmatsiujingling Fanlinyuen'')
*Chinese (Mandarin): 神奇寶貝訓練家 (''Shénqíbaǒbeì Xùnliànjiā'')
*French: ''Dresseur Pokémon''
*German: ''Pokémon-Trainer''
*Italian: ''Allenatore di Pokémon''
*Korean: 포켓몬 트레이너 (''Pocketmon Trainer'')
*Polish: ''Trener Pokémonów''
*Portuguese: ''Treinador Pokémon''
*Spanish: ''Entrenador Pokémon''

==See also==
* [[Trainer class]]

{{league}} 
{{Gen I trainers}} 
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[[Category:Pokémon world]]
[[Category:Terminology]]
[[Category:Trainer classes]]

[[de:Trainer]]
[[ja:ポケモントレーナー]]
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Vacuum Wave (move)

2010-04-26T04:59:14Z

BlueJoshi: /* Trivia */

{{MoveInfobox|
n=410 |
name=Vacuum Wave |
jname=しんくうは |
jtrans=Vacuum Wave|
desc=The user whirls its fists to send a wave of pure vacuum at the foe. This move always goes first. |
gameimage=DPVacuum wave.PNG |
type=Fighting |
damagecategory=Special |
basepp=30 |
maxpp=48 |
power=40 |
accuracy=100 |
priority=+1 |
gen=IV |
target=any|
category=Smart |
appealsc=2 |
scdesc=Enables the user to perform first in the next turn. |
touches=no |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=no |
snatch=no |
brightpowder=yes |
kingsrock=yes |
flag7=no |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
mtpt=yes|
mths=yes|
na=no|
footnotes=
}}
'''Vacuum Wave''' (Japanese: '''しんくうは''' ''Vacuum Wave'') is a damage dealing {{type2|Fighting}} move introduced in [[Generation IV]].

==Effect==
Vacuum Wave inflicts damage, and is an increased [[priority]] move. If the target does not use an increased priority move during the round that it is used, Vacuum Wave will go first regardless of the user's or target's speed. If the target also uses a move with an increased priority of +1 during the same round that the user uses Vacuum Wave, the attack order of the users will be
determined normally. If the user is put to {{Status|sleep}} or {{status|freeze|frozen}} during the round that Vacuum Wave is (or attempts to be) used, Vacuum Wave's increased speed priority will not be reset. Subsequently, it will only be reset on the turn after the user wakes up or is defrosted, or if the user switches out.

==Learnset==
===Generation IV===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist|fighting}}
{{Moveentry|107|Hitmonchan|1|Fighting||26|'''|}}
{{Moveentry|123|Scyther|2|Bug|Flying|--|||PtHGSS}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{Breedlist|fighting}}
{{Moveentry|236|Tyrogue|1|Fighting||{{p|Machop}}, {{p|Machoke}}, {{p|Machamp}} {{p|Hitmonlee}}, {{p|Hitmonchan}}, {{p|Hitmontop}} {{p|Makuhita}}, {{p|Hariyama}} {{p|Meditite}}, {{p|Medicham}} {{p|Chimchar}}, {{p|Monferno}}, {{p|Infernape}} {{p|Lucario}} {{p|Croagunk}}, {{p|Toxicroak}}|'''}}
{{Moveentry|447|Riolu|1|Fighting||{{p|Mankey}}, {{p|Primeape}} {{p|Machop}}, {{p|Machoke}}, {{p|Machamp}} {{p|Hitmonlee}}, {{p|Hitmonchan}}, {{p|Hitmontop}} {{p|Combusken}}, {{p|Blaziken}} {{p|Makuhita}}, {{p|Hariyama}} {{p|Meditite}}, {{p|Medicham}} {{p|Lucario}} {{p|Croagunk}}, {{p|Toxicroak}}|'''}}
{{Moveentry|453|Croagunk|2|Poison|Fighting|{{p|Machop}}, {{p|Machoke}}, {{p|Machamp}} {{p|Hitmonlee}}, {{p|Hitmonchan}}, {{p|Hitmontop}} {{p|Makuhita}}, {{p|Hariyama}} {{p|Meditite}}, {{p|Medicham}} {{p|Chimchar}}, {{p|Monferno}}, {{p|Infernape}} {{p|Lucario}} {{p|Croagunk}}, {{p|Toxicroak}}|'''}}
{{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}
====By [[move tutor]]====
=====In {{game|Platinum}}, {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}=====
{{Learnlist/TM|Fighting}}
{{Moveentrytm|056|Mankey|1|Fighting||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|057|Primeape|1|Fighting||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|062|Poliwrath|2|Water|Fighting|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|066|Machop|1|Fighting||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|067|Machoke|1|Fighting||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|068|Machamp|1|Fighting||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|106|Hitmonlee|1|Fighting||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|107|Hitmonchan|1|Fighting||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|151|Mew|1|Psychic||}}
{{Moveentrytm|214|Heracross|2|Bug|Fighting|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|236|Tyrogue|1|Fighting||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|237|Hitmontop|1|Fighting||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|256|Combusken|2|Fire|Fighting|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|257|Blaziken|2|Fire|Fighting|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|286|Breloom|2|Grass|Fighting|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|296|Makuhita|1|Fighting||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|297|Hariyama|1|Fighting||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|307|Meditite|2|Fighting|Psychic|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|308|Medicham|2|Fighting|Psychic|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|390|Chimchar|1|Fire||''}}
{{Moveentrytm|391|Monferno|2|Fire|Fighting|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|392|Infernape|2|Fire|Fighting|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|447|Riolu|1|Fighting||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|448|Lucario|2|Fighting|Steel|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|453|Croagunk|2|Poison|Fighting|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|454|Toxicroak|2|Poison|Fighting|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|475|Gallade|2|Psychic|Fighting|'''}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

==In the anime==
{{moveanime|type=fighting|exp=yes|gen=It spins around to gather air. It then releases it by punching the gathered air in the form of a shape.|image1=Chrissy Vacuum Wave2.jpg|image1p=Croagunk|image3=Chrissy Vacuum Wave1.jpg|image3p=Croagunk gathering air}}
{{movep|type=fighting|ms=453|pkmn=Croagunk|method=Croagunk jumps into the air and spins around, causing pink wind to appear and surround it. It then turns towards the opponent and puts its arms around its head, firing the wind from around its body in the shape of a heart.}}
{{movebtm|type=fighting|user=Nurse Joy|user1=Nurse Joy's Chrissy|startcode=DP082|startname=Cream of the Croagunk Crop!|notes=Debut}}

==Trivia==
* Chimchar and Mew are the only non-Fighting-types to learn the move through the move tutor in Pokémon Platinum. However, Chimchar evolves into {{p|Monferno}}, which is part Fighting, and Mew can learn almost all tutorable moves.
* Vacuum Wave is currently the only [[special move|special]] increased [[priority]] move.

==In other languages==
* Spanish: '''Onda Vacío'''
* German: '''Vakuumwelle'''
* Italian: '''Vuotonda'''
* Brazilian Portuguese: '''Onda de Vácuo'''
* Dutch: '''Vacuum Golf'''

{{Quick Attack}}
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[[de:Vakuumwelle]]
[[fr:Onde Vide]]
[[ja:しんくうは]]
[[pt:Vacuum Wave]]

Pidgey (Pokémon)

2010-03-30T19:46:15Z

BlueJoshi: /* Physiology */ no convergent evolution is the opposite of what you want here.

{{PokémonPrevNext | type=normal |type2=flying | prevnum=015 | nextnum=017 | prev=Beedrill | next=Pidgeotto }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Pidgey |
pron=<sc>''pid''-jee</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''. Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> |
jname=ポッポ |
tmname=Poppo |
image=016Pidgey.png |
size=130px |
caption=Artwork from FR/LG |
ndex=016 |
jdex=010 |
hdex=218 |
odex=001 |
typen=2 |
type1=Normal |
type2=Flying |
species=Tiny Bird |
height-ftin=1'00" |
height-m=0.3 |
weight-lbs=4.0 |
weight-kg=1.8 |
abilityn=2 |
ability1=Keen Eye |
ability2=Tangled Feet |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Flying |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=15 |
evsp=1 |
expyield=55 |
lv100exp=1,059,860 |
gendercode=127 |
color=Brown |
catchrate=255 |
body=09 |
pokefordex=pidgey |
generation=1 |
footnotes=}}
'''Pidgey''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ポッポ ''' ''Poppo'') is a dual-type {{2t|Normal|Flying}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolves]] into {{p|Pidgeotto}} starting at [[level]] 18 and then into {{p|Pidgeot}} starting at [[level]] 36.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Pidgey resembles a small, plump-bodied bird. It is a brown color, with a lighter colored throat and belly. The tips of its wings share this cream color. Both its feet and beak are a pinkish-gray color. Its plumage is fairly nondescript, particularly compared to its evolutions Pidgeotto and Pidgeot. It has black markings around its eyes and a small crest of brown and cream feathers above its eyes. It resembles other small {{type2|Flying}} Pokémon such as {{p|Starly}}, {{p|Taillow}}, and {{p|Spearow}}. However, due to the fact that (with the exception of Spearow) these Pokémon tend to be unique to a region, it is likely that they are a result of {{wp|divergent evolution}}. Pidgey's feet allow it to walk on the ground for a while but can also reach out and safely land on perches.

====Gender differences====
None.

====Special abilities====
Pidgey has an extremely sharp sense of direction and homing instincts. It can locate its nest even when far removed from familiar surroundings. Because of this, it is extremely easy to train to deliver messages.

===Behavior===
It is a docile Pokémon, and generally prefers to flee from its enemies rather than fight them. Pidgey's small size permits it to easily hide in long grass, where it is typically found foraging for small insects. It is known to flush out potential prey from long grass by flapping its wings rapidly. This maneuver also serves to protect Pidgey from enemies. If disturbed, a Pidgey is capable of sending a blinding cloud of dust into the air, permitting it to make its escape. This evasive technique can also be applied to battles. While Pidgey generally do not like to fight, they have been known to strike with surprising fierceness when they are cornered. While Pidgey make ideal targets for young trainers, due to their temperaments, it is not unheard of for novice trainers to be seriously injured by a panicked Pidgey.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Forest.gif|right|frame|{{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Forest Pokémon}}]]
Pidgey are very common and can be seen in a variety of environments. Pidgey typically dwell in forests with thick growth and large trees, and due to their environmental versatility and somewhat similar habitat needs, they can usually be found in the same places as {{p|Rattata}}. They are normally native to [[Kanto]] and [[Johto]], although vagrants have appeared in [[Sinnoh]] from time to time.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}
Pidgey mainly eat {{p|Weedle}}, {{p|Caterpie}}, {{p|Wurmple}}, and other small insects.

==In the anime==
[[Image:Orville.jpg|thumb|right|Pidgey in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
Pidgey first appeared in ''[[EP001|Pokémon - I Choose You!]]''. {{Ash}} tried capturing it, but failed because {{AP|Pikachu}} would not obey him.

{{an|Casey}} has a Pidgey, seen in her first appearance, ''[[EP118|The Double Trouble Header]]''.

Many Pidgey were featured in ''[[EP164|Carrying On!]]'' as mail-Pidgey, owned by Malachi and his grandfather.

[[Wilbur]], guardian of [[Pudgy Pidgey Isle]], helped to teach a Pidgey named [[Orville]] how to fly in ''[[EP211|Fly Me to the Moon]]''. Nearly all the other Pidgey on the island were too large for flight.

[[Professor Oak]] captured a Pidgey just before ''[[EP245|Will the Real Oak Please Stand Up?]]''. He used it to blast off [[Team Rocket]].

===Minor appearances===
Pidgey are frequently seen in the background of many episodes flying in packs of ten or more. Sometimes they may appear in town centers or fields nearby to Ash and friends and usually fly away due to any local disturbance. Their appearances range from seemingly any anime episode, notably, ''[[DP073|Crossing Paths]]'' and ''[[DP071|Pokémon Ranger and the Kidnapped Riolu! Part One]]'', as well as movies, such as ''[[M10|The Rise of Darkrai]]'' and ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''.

A Pidgey was used by one of the students of the [[Pokémon Trainer's School]] in ''[[AG015|Gonna Rule The School!]]''.

A Pidgey appeared in ''[[AG143|The Saffron Con]]'' as a Pokémon owned by a Coordinator that was taken by Team Rocket.

Team Rocket mistook a Pidgey for a {{p|Ho-Oh}} in ''[[AG178|Battling the Enemy Within]]''.

A Pidgey also appeared in ''[[DP038|One Big Happiny Family!]]'' in [[Jessie]]'s fantasy.

In ''[[M05|Pokémon Heroes]]'', two Pidgey can be seen having a wash in a drinking basin.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Kanto}}
{{Animedexbody|EP001|Pidgey|Ash's Pokédex|Pidgey is a Flying Pokémon. Among all the {{t|Flying}} Pokémon, it is the gentlest and easiest to capture. A perfect target for the beginning [[Pokémon Trainer]] to test his Pokémon's skills. Pidgey's {{m|Gust}} power creates tornadoes. It also has a {{m|Sand-Attack}}.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|original|Kanto}}

==In the manga==
[[Professor Oak]] had a Pidgey in [[Electric Tale of Pikachu]].

[[File:Pidgey Adventures.jpg|thumb|left|Pidgey in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
Pidgey makes a couple of cameos in the {{chap|Red, Green & Blue}}; in ''[[PS002|Bulbasaur, Come Home!]]'' as one of the Pokémon that escapes from [[Professor Oak's Laboratory]] and in ''[[PS009|...But Fearow Itself!]]'' when a frozen one is pictured by [[Bill]] in his explanation about how to stop a {{t|flying}} Pokémon. Also, the [[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone's]] tour guide is an automated robotic Pidgey.

===In the [[Pokémon Zensho]] manga===
In Pocket Monsters Zensho, a flock of Pidgey swarm {{Zensho|Satoshi}} at the beginning. He is later saved by [[Professor Oak]]'s {{p|Charmander}} who later becomes his own.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Pidgey (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
* [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness]]: Pidgey and {{p|Seedot}} are the members of Team Seedgey.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|gen=1
|type=normal
|type2=flying
|redbluedex=A common sight in forests and woods. It flaps its wings at ground level to {{m|Sand-Attack|kick up blinding sand}}.
|yellowdex=Very docile. If attacked, it will often kick up sand to protect itself rather than fight back.
|stadiumdex=If at all possible, it will try to avoid battles. Small or weak enemies are blown away by {{m|whirlwind}}.
|golddex=It usually hides in tall grass. Because it dislikes fighting, it protects itself by kicking up sand.
|silverdex=Common in grassy areas and forests, it is very docile and will chase off enemies by flapping up sand.
|crystaldex=It rapidly flaps its wings in the grass, stirring up a dust cloud that drives insect prey out into the open.
|stadium2dex=It usually hides in tall grass. Because it dislikes fighting, it protects itself by kicking up sand.
|rubydex=Pidgey has an extremely sharp sense of direction. It is capable of unerringly returning home to its nest, however far it may be removed from its familiar surroundings.
|sapphiredex=Pidgey has an extremely sharp sense of direction. It is capable of unerringly returning home to its nest, however far it may be removed from its familiar surroundings.
|emeralddex=It has an extremely sharp sense of direction. It can unerringly return home to its nest, however far it may be removed from its familiar surroundings.
|firereddex=Does not like to fight. It hides in tall grass and so on, foraging for food such as small bugs.
|leafgreendex=A common sight in forests and woods. It flaps its wings and ground level to kick up blinding sand.
|diamonddex=It is docile and prefers to avoid conflict. If disturbed, however, it can ferociously strike back.
|pearldex=It is docile and prefers to avoid conflict. If disturbed, however, it can ferociously strike back.
|platinumdex=It is docile and prefers to avoid conflict. If disturbed, however, it can ferociously strike back.
|heartgolddex=It usually hides in tall grass. Because it dislikes fighting, it protects itself by kicking up sand.
|soulsilverdex=Common in grassy areas and forests, it is very docile and will chase off enemies by flapping up sand.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=normal |
type2=flying |
gen=1 |
rbrarity=Common |
rbarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|1}}, {{rtn|2}}, {{rtn|3}}, {{rtn|5}}, {{rtn|6}}, {{rtn|7}}, {{rtn|8}}, {{rtn|12}}, {{rtn|13}}, {{rtn|14}}, {{rtn|15}}, {{rtn|21}}, {{rtn|24}}, and {{rtn|25}} |
yrarity=Common |
yarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|1}}, {{rtn|2}}, {{rtn|5}}, {{rtn|6}}, {{rtn|7}}, {{rtn|8}}, {{rtn|11}}, {{rtn|12}}, {{rtn|13}}, {{rtn|21}}, {{rtn|24}}, and {{rtn|25}}, [[Viridian Forest]] |
gsrarity=Common |
gsarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|1}}, {{rtn|2}}, {{rtn|5}}, {{rtn|25}}, {{rtn|29}}, {{rtn|30}}, {{rtn|31}}, {{rtn|32}}, {{rtn|34}} {{rtn|35}}, {{rtn|36}}, and {{rtn|37}},
[[National Park]] |
crarity=Common |
carea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|1}}, {{rtn|2}}, {{rtn|5}}, {{rtn|25}}, {{rtn|29}}, {{rtn|30}}, {{rtn|31}}, {{rtn|35}}, {{rtn|36}}, and {{rtn|37}},
[[National Park]], [[Ilex Forest]] |
gen3ex=frlg|
frlgrarity=Common |
frlgarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|1}}, {{rtn|2}}, {{rtn|3}}, {{rtn|5}}, {{rtn|6}}, {{rtn|7}}, {{rtn|8}}, {{rtn|12}}, {{rtn|13}}, {{rtn|14}}, {{rtn|15}}, {{rtn|24}}, and {{rtn|25}}, [[Viridian Forest]],
[[Bond Bridge]], [[Berry Forest]], [[Five Isle Meadow]] |
dprarity=[[Swarms|Swarm]] |
dparea={{rt|229}} |
ptrarity=Uncommon |
ptarea={{rt|229}} |
hgssrarity=Common |
hgssarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|1}}, {{rtn|2}}, {{rtn|5}}, {{rtn|6}}, {{rtn|25}}, {{rtn|29}}, {{rtn|30}}, {{rtn|31}}, {{rtn|35}}, {{rtn|36}}, and {{rtn|37}}, [[National Park]], [[Viridian Forest]] |
palarea=Field |
walkarea={{pw|Refreshing Field}}
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=normal
|type2=flying
|snap=[[Pokémon Island Beach|Beach]]
|channel={{OBP|Viridian Forest|Channel}}
|trozei=Endless Level 14 Endless Level 33 Forever Level 14 [[Mr. Who's Den]]
|md=[[Tiny Woods]] (1F-3F) [[Howling Forest]] (9F-13F)
|md2=[[Concealed Ruins]] (B1-B9) [[World Abyss]] (B1-B15)
|scramble=[[Windy Prairie‎]]
|ranger3=[[The Sky]]
}}

===Held items===
{{HeldItems
|type=Normal|type2=Flying
|rby1=Berry|rby1type=Berries (Generation II)|rby1rar=100|rby1image=no
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats with RBY|
HP= 40 |
Attack= 45 |
Defense=40 |
SpAtk= 35 |
SpDef= 35 |
Special=35 |
Speed= 56 |
type=Normal |
type2=Flying }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Normal
|type2=Flying
|Speed=3
|SpeedMax=5
|Power=2
|PowerMax=3
|Technique=3
|TechniqueMax=4
|Stamina=2
|StaminaMax=3
|Jump=3
|JumpMax=5
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Normal|
type2=Flying|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 0 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
notes=yes|
flying=yes|
newground=1|}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|normal|flying|4|1|Pidgey}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Tackle|Normal|Physical|35|95|35|Tough|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|5|Sand-Attack|Ground|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|9|Gust|Flying|Special|40|100|35|Smart|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|13|Quick Attack|Normal|Physical|40|100|30|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|17|Whirlwind|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|21|Twister|Dragon|Special|40|100|20|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|25|FeatherDance|Flying|Status|—|100|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|29|Agility|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|33|Wing Attack|Flying|Physical|60|100|35|Cool|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|37|Roost|Flying|Status|—|—|10|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|41|Tailwind|Flying|Status|—|—|30|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|45|Mirror Move|Flying|Status|—|—|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|49|Air Slash|Flying|Special|75|95|20|Cool|2||'''}}
{{movelist/note|4|normal|flying}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelist|normal|flying|4|1|Pidgey}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM40]]|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM46]]|Thief|Dark|Physical|40|100|10|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM47]]|Steel Wing|Steel|Physical|70|90|25|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM51]]|Roost|Flying|Status|—|—|10|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM78]]|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM88]]|Pluck|Flying|Physical|60|100|20|Cute|0||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM89]]|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM02]]|Fly|Flying|Physical|90|95|15|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM05]]|Defog|Flying|Status|—|—|15|Beauty|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|normal|flying}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{eggmoves|normal|flying|4|1|Pidgey}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Zubat}}, {{p|Golbat}}, {{p|Crobat}} {{p|Farfetch'd}} {{p|Skarmory}}|Air Cutter|Flying|Special|55|95|25|Cool|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Pidgey}}, {{p|Pidgeotto}}, {{p|Pidgeot}} {{p|Zubat}}, {{p|Golbat}}, {{p|Crobat}} {{p|Farfetch'd}} {{p|Hoothoot}}, {{p|Noctowl}} {{p|Skarmory}} {{p|Taillow}}, {{p|Swellow}} {{p|Wingull}} {{p|Togekiss}}|Air Slash|Flying|Special|75|95|20|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Starly}}, {{p|Staravia}}, {{p|Staraptor}}|Brave Bird|Flying|Physical|120|100|15|Cute|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Murkrow}}|Faint Attack|Dark|Physical|60|—|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Hoothoot}}, {{p|Noctowl}}|Foresight|Normal|Status|—|—|40|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Spearow}}, {{p|Fearow}} {{p|Doduo}}, {{p|Dodrio}} {{p|Murkrow}}, {{p|Honchkrow}} {{p|Wingull}}|Pursuit|Dark|Physical|40|100|20|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Pidgey}}, {{p|Pidgeotto}}, {{p|Pidgeot}} {{p|Spearow}}, {{p|Fearow}} {{p|Zubat}}, {{p|Golbat}}, {{p|Crobat}} {{p|Farfetch'd}} {{p|Doduo}}, {{p|Dodrio}} {{p|Hoothoot}}, {{p|Noctowl}} {{p|Togetic}}, {{p|Togekiss}} {{p|Natu}}, {{p|Xatu}} {{p|Murkrow}}, {{p|Honchkrow}} {{p|Skarmory}} {{p|Wingull}}, {{p|Pelipper}} {{p|Taillow}}, {{p|Swellow}} {{p|Swablu}}, {{p|Altaria}} {{p|Starly}}, {{p|Staravia}}, {{p|Staraptor}}|Steel Wing|Steel|Physical|70|90|25|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Doduo}}, {{p|Dodrio}} {{p|Chatot}}|Uproar|Normal|Special|50|100|10|Cute|2||'''}}
{{eggmoves/note|4|normal|flying}}

====By [[move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|normal|flying|4|1|Pidgey}}
{{mtentry4|Air Cutter|Flying|Special|55|95|25|Cool|3||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Heat Wave|Fire|Special|100|90|10|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5|Smart|0|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Tailwind|Flying|Status|—|—|30|Smart|2|||no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Twister|Dragon|Special|40|100|20|Cool|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Uproar|Normal|Special|50|100|10|Cute|2||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4|normal|flying}}

===={{Trading Card Game}}-only Moves====
* {{m|Peck}} {{ic|Flying}}
* {{m|Fury Swipes}} {{ic|Normal}}
* {{m|Growl}} {{ic|Normal}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=normal |
type2=flying |
ndex=016 |
pinball=Catch |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Common |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=10.1 |
area=Flyaway Forest |
P1=I'm not a good fighter, but I'll give you my best! |
P2=My HP's been halved... |
P3=I'm about to crash... |
PL=Yay! I leveled up! Happy! |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=8.2 |
iq=D |
Ranger3=yes |
group3=Flying |
assist3=Flying |
field3=Cut |
field3power=1 |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|family=Normal
|sprite1=016
|name1=Pidgey
|type1-1=Normal
|type2-1=Flying
|evotype1=Level
|level1=18
|sprite2=017
|name2=Pidgeotto
|type1-2=Normal
|type2-2=Flying
|evotype2=Level
|level2=36
|sprite3=018
|name3=Pidgeot
|type1-3=Normal
|type2-3=Flying}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=normal|
type2=flying|
gen=1|
gender=none|
ndex=016|
name=Pidgey|
}}

==Trivia==
* Pidgey was originally going to be named "Pidge."
* Pidgey is the first {{type2|Normal}} Pokémon in [[National Pokédex]] order.
* Pidgey shares the same [[species]] name with {{p|Spearow}} and {{p|Natu}}. They are all known as Tiny Bird Pokémon, though Natu has also been called a Little Bird Pokémon.
* Pidgey is commonly referred to in a meme on *chan sites in which a boy ignores his distraught girlfriend when he finds a {{shiny2}} Pidgey.
* In ''[[EP002|Pokémon Emergency!]]'', it is shown that the [[Pokémon Center]] in [[Viridian City]] contains a cuckoo clock with a green Pidgey in it.
* Pidgey is the only Pokémon that is tenth in a regional Pokédex listing (coming immediately after the {{type2|Water}} starter's final form) that was not introduced in the same generation as the starter. This is in the [[List of Pokémon by Johto Pokédex number|Johto Pokédex]].
* Pidgey was the first Pokémon in National Pokédex order to have 2 abilities. In Generation III, this honor goes to {{p|Rattata}}.
===Origin===
Anatomically Pidgey does not resemble {{wp|pigeons}} as much as it does {{wp|finches}} or {{wp|sparrows}}. However, there have been some references to Pidgey Mail, alluding to {{wp|homing pigeon}}s.
====Name origin====
Pidgey's name could be a corruption of ''{{wp|pigeon}}'' or a combination of that with the word ''{{wp|Budgerigar|budgie}}''. Its Japanese name appears to be the onomatopoeia of the sound a pigeon makes, ポッポッポ ''poppoppo''.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Taubsi - From ''Taube'' (pigeon).
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Roucool - From ''roucoule'' (coo) and English ''cool''.
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 구구 ''Kugu''
* [[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese (Taiwan and Hong Kong)]]: 波波 ''Po Po'' - Transliteration of its Japanese name, Poppo.

==Related articles==
* [[Orville]]

==External links==

==Notes==
<references />

 

{{PokémonPrevNext | type=normal |type2=flying | prevnum=015 | nextnum=017 | prev=Beedrill | next=Pidgeotto }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}

[[pl:Pidgey]]

[[de:Taubsi]]
[[es:Pidgey]]
[[fr:Roucool]]
[[ja:ポッポ]]
[[pt:Pidgey (pokémon)]]

User talk:Kenji-girl/Archive 12

2009-09-12T05:51:14Z

BlueJoshi: /* Kotone talk page */ new section

{{:User talk:Kenji-girl/Archive directory}}

== Can you give me something to do ==

Like a task or something? I can't find anything to add/edit. [[User:Max King|Max King]] 12:25, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

:You could go through each Pokémon's article and take out any sprite trivia. We already got 1/3 to half of the articles last night, so start at about {{p|Rapidash}}. Or you could work backwards from {{p|Arceus}}. Cold and Turtwig A were skipping around a lot last night, so you might be find more trivia in the Johto-Sinnoh Pokémon than in the Kanto ones. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:36, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

::Watch the Recent changes and check for errors on articles. [[User:Pyles|Pyles]] 14:05, 25 August 2009 (UTC) P.S. Kenji, I don't care if you remember me or not

:::If you REALLY want to help out, then check here: [[Bulbapedia:Project Anime/To-do list]]. You can also check out other projects' to-do lists.

:::P.S.: Pyles, you shouldn't complain to someone about not editing the mainspace enough when you barely do it yourself. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:37, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

I wasn't complaining, just giving a suggestion... [[User:Pyles|Pyles]] 11:49, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

== Here ==

[[User:Maverick Nate/Sandbox|this]] ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:20, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
:Not bad. But I think you should use Pikachu's anime art instead of the Sugimori. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:30, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

==Box Help==
I've seen your "Me" box/section in your userpage, and it got me asking you how you did it? If you have any tips on the box, please inform me. Thanks

--[[User:PokeFreak-Z]], new here.
:The best advice I can give is to copy and paste mine and change it to things that apply to you. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:22, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks KG ==

I hate when people do that, was it alright that I did that?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 03:51, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah it's fine. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:52, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

== International content ==

Hi KG, just wanted to turn your attention [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=42383 here]. It's relevant to Project VA, which is sorta yours. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 14:58, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

== DP144 ==

Please add a Marill in the article. See [[:a:File:DP144-temp.png|this]] for proof. And wouldn't it be better if episode trivia was separated by dub? Sometimes, it gets confusing. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 10:38, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
:Image is from TV Tokyo BTW, so it's official. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 01:26, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

==Hay==

Did you stop doing your new evos thing? [[User:Random Chaos|Random]] [[User talk:Random Chaos|Chaos]] [[User:Random Chaos/Sandbox|Was here]][http://chaos-shepherd.deviantart.com/ ☃] 01:04, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

==DP145==
http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=416933

Can't create it since you locked it, so here you go. :) --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 08:55, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:Turns out that episode was DP146 and it airs 10/1. This is exactly why I don't trust Serebii. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:33, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::Well, it wasn't Serebii who posted it. Plus, he's almost never wrong with titles.... --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 02:54, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::I meant Serebii in general. Not the person. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:57, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I see, yeah, I guess that does make sense. But Serebii has just as many reliable people posting episode titles as Bulbapedia. :) --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:04, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

==Okay?==
I saw that you deleted the error that I put under [[EP240]] that goes like this "Egan commands his Flareon to use a "Flaming Tackle" which is not an actual move. This move is much like the move [[Flare Blitz]] which was introduced in [[Generation IV]]."
I understand why it isn't an error but then could it go under the Trivia section instead? Just let me know. Thanks. --[[User:PikaPower|'''Pika''']][[User talk:Pikapower|'''Power!''']] ''<big>''[[Special:Contributions/PikaPower|'''☆''']]''</big> 03:51, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:Or what if I word the sentence differently like this "Egan commands his Flareon to use "Flaming Tackle" against Magcargo, a move that is similar to Flare Blitz, a move that was later introduced in Generation IV. However, "Flaming Tackle" does not exist in the games." Let me know. Thanks. --[[User:PikaPower|'''Pika''']][[User talk:Pikapower|'''Power!''']] ''<big>''[[Special:Contributions/PikaPower|'''☆''']]''</big> 04:08, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::Well saying that Flame Tackle is like Flare Blitz is an opinion. Others might not agree with that. The only thing that I can think of is if you mention Mikey's Eevee using "Rage Tackle".

::For instance, you could say ''Egan's Flareon is the second Pokémon to use a non-existant move, "Flame Tackle", that is a spin on {{m|Tackle}}. The first was Mikey's Eevee who used a move called "Rage Tackle". Coincidentally, Flareon is an evolution of Eevee.''

::That would be perfectly fine. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:19, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

:::That sounds great. I always have trouble typing things out so they sound good. I'll add it right away. Thank you very much Kenji-girl. :) --[[User:PikaPower|'''Pika''']][[User talk:Pikapower|'''Power!''']] ''<big>''[[Special:Contributions/PikaPower|'''☆''']]''</big> 04:29, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

== Anime Episode Redirects ==

Kenji, I was wondering when redirecting the english titles do we also direct the titles without the punctuation too? An example is Classroom Training!(which was redirected already) would we also redirect Classroom Training too? Thanks. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 00:24, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

== Hey Coolpikahcu said ==

Talk to you about an idea I had, with the movie redirects, can I redirect with like "Celebi Movie or "Jirachi Movie"?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:29, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:That seems a little too vague... I mean, this isn't Friends. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:31, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::Hmmmmm...Well, I should get opinions first then.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:32, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

== DP147 !!! ==

Hey kenji, i found the title of DP 147. 10月15日 DP147 "温泉バトルでリボンゲット!". --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 14:27, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:It is going to air on 15th october. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 14:28, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::Why on a Tuesday? Are you sure it's real? Where did you get it from? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:57, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::NVM. My dumbass was looking at September's calendar... --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:10, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::This isn't, by any chance, the same episode that caused quite a bit of grief and controversy on BMGf about Dawn doing a Pokemon Contest in a hot spring, is it? I'm asking because the title is almost EXACTLY the same as that title in terms of the Japanese characters. I was hoping it was a hoax, but since it actually seems to be true, as much as I anticipated this scenario, the writers really went too far this time. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:34, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I am sorry for the late reply, kenji here is the link http://hi.baidu.com/kulu_windy/blog/item/932b595026723b551138c26b.html --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 01:29, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Don't use my talk page to give your opinion of an episode, Weedle... --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:16, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
::::MY OPINION?! Look, prior to Adyniz's revelation, the BMGf people actually THOUGHT it was a Hoax. Don't believe me, look at this thread, assuming it is still closed: http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=43447. If anything, you should blame the ENTIRETY of BMGf for that opinion. All I did was be the messenger. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 09:50, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::You just said that "The writers really went too far" and that you hoped it wasn't the real title. That sounds like an opinion to me. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:00, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Ok, fine, that was an opinion, but can you really blame me for having that? If they announced that there would be an episode featuring nude female characters doing a contest in the nude for almost the entire episode (and probably not even wearing towels, either), you would react the exact same way I did, maybe even react even more negatively, due to the fact that you're a girl. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 10:13, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::They're not showing nude girls. That's the dumbest fanwanked crap I've ever heard. The forums over-exaggerate things... --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:31, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Please explain why Dawn isn't wearing a towel in this?
::::::::http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/8753/147up.jpg
::::::::I mean, if even a scan basically shows her naked (yeah, I know, she has foam bubbles covering her, but since it's not a towel or any clothing, it still counts), that pretty much means that she's naked. Besides, if the title means anything, the contest she wins the ribbon in is quite literally in a hot bathing spring. Common sense dictates that people who are bathing in the Hot Spring would not wear a towel when they are actually IN the spring [unless they are extremely modest], and since the title of the episode implies that she wins a contest that's held within a Hot Spring (meaning the contest stage is the spring itself), put two-and-two together, and it's evident that this is the case. It's not Fanwank, BTW, it's common sense and logic. In order for it to be fanwank, it needs to be something that people are speculating that defies even common sense and logic (EG, having Dawn participate a contest in a regular contest hall in the nude for no reason whatsoever). [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 10:43, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::How do you know exactly what's going on in that picture? Who's to say she's not taking a bath with Piplup. That doesn't mean she's doing a Contest with no clothes on. Do you really think they'd do that? You are jumping to conclusions way too fast. Keep this on the forums. The last time they got involved, Dawn's Pachirisu was going to die in [[DP094]]. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:48, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Fine, I will. But before I drop the subject from the talk page, I just want to point out that, while it is true that it could just as easily be her bathing with Piplup, it's placement directly under the scan (which some people assumed was fake, BTW, and that's NOT an opinion) would imply that it's more than that (If they weren't going to imply that the contest would require the contestants not wear clothes, they would have placed a scan with Dawn wearing a bathing suit in a battle/appeal position instead.). Now with that point taken care of, I'm leaving, and I don't plan on coming back to this topic to respond. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 11:07, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::EDIT: sorry, but I briefly forgot. You asked me if I really think they'd do that. Well, to answer your question, yes. While I definitely don't want it to happen, I have had suspicions that this would indeed happen (especially given the gradual risque factor of Pokemon, most notably when Jessie and Giovanni were heavily implied to be nude (and in the latters case (cringes) nearly saw his butt) in Hot springing a leak. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 11:10, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::What ever dude. Just go away... Yeah, the kiddy show Pokémon is going to have an all-nude Contest. Yeah... makes perfect sense to me. And Pachirisu dies and Ash kills Team Rocket. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 11:14, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Weedle, where were you when the Cinnabar episodes aired? Misty was certainly just as uncovered as Dawn is in those. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:08, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::::No... she wasn't, actually. Misty at least wore a towel. If the scan above is to be believed, Dawn isn't even wearing a towel. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:52, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

== TSSprite.png ==

:Hm..the new Scyther sprite does not have its right wing in view...so what should we do with Tracey's Scyther's custom sprite? Should we remove it from the page temporarily until sprites in future games come out?--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 22:10, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
::I can still take away the fangs. And the left wing has scratches on it too. Just let me handle it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:12, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

::Here [[File:TSSprite.png]] I just hope this isn't the female Scyther. The abdomen looks big to me. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:00, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

== Hey you ==
You can't talk to ME like that, you're not my mother. And Tracey Sketchit is a TV character so get over it, woman.
Have a HAPPY☆ day. --[[User:Sandshrew-san|--Sandshrew-sanSEGOOGA!]] 22:50, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

== Kotone talk page ==

Excuse me, that was something about the article. I don't see how it's not worth having on the talk page. It is something of interest that could be put on the character's page and is worth discussing. You know, talking about. What the page is for. ~ [[User:BlueJoshi|BlueJoshi]] 05:51, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Lyra (game)

2009-09-11T01:26:55Z

BlueJoshi: /* Clothing */ new section

<big><big><big>'''ATTENTION: THIS PAGE IS NOT FOR ARGUMENTS. GO TO THE FORUMS FOR THAT.'''</big></big></big>

I rendered the scan of Soul (I guess that's what we're all calling her now) if you want to use it...

[[File:HGSS_Soul.png]]
:The top of her head's cut off. Can you fix that? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:35, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
::Um....shouldn't we wait until a REAL source gives her name? Or has one been given? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:48, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:::There was a poll, and it is mentioned that there is no official name yet, and this is a fanname. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 03:54, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I can't do anything about the hat because it was like that in the scan. It went off the page. (Sorry, I'm new to this wiki stuff, so I don't know how to do a lot...)
:How about [http://bayimg.com/image/aapfgaabl.jpg this one], or should we just wait for the official individual art from [[Ken Sugimori]] to be released.--[[User talk:AOS|AOS]] 20:34, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::If you click through to the archives from the image's page, you'll notice that it's already been updated to the official art, taken from the HG/SS official site. There's just something up with the way images are being shown on the 'pedia. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 21:35, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

== Name ==

According to the screen revealed in CoroCoro and Famitsu, Soul seems to be the boy's name... --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 07:07, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:Sigh. You know as well as I do that "Leaf" is among the optional names for Red in LeafGreen, too, don't you? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:28, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
::Well. I know that it doesn't indicate anything. But I noted it here to show that the assumption that her name will be "Soul" is nothing more than gunjumping. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 07:30, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Either way, we needed a name for her page and we couldn't really name her "That girl who replaced Kris causing all the fans to whine (game)". '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:34, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I really think for the time being we should call her the "Un-named female trainer", or something like that. Besides, we can't assume her name based on what [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen versions|one generation]] did.[[User:Zabbethx|Zabbethx]] 15:16, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:The name is pretty much a place-holder (no user is going to be willing to search something like "Un-named female trainer" just to find the this article) at this point, which is why it is clearly tagged in the article to avoid confusion. And if the precedent from gen III holds, the article will have already had its proper name, and if not, it can very easily be corrected. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 15:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
::Check [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Leaf_(game) this] if you don't mind since I gave my opinion as well as a few facts (at least one XD). [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 15:51, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I knew it! her name was going to be Soul just like I predicted in Kris's Talk Page. [[User:AlienX2008|AlienX2008]] 17:52, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually we don't know for a fact yet AlienX2008. While there is a 99% chance of her name being Soul (which I am starting to think is her name as opposed to Heart which I previously thought), there is no official word yet. Right now Soul is just her fan-name.[[User:Zabbethx|Zabbethx]] 18:49, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:Is it Heart? I heard that according to those scans that the Pokemon website has,it has the Gold character with the default name "Soul"? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 22:56, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Personally, i hope its Heart. But i'd be ok with Soul. {{unsigned|Golden}}

I personally think this article should be called "Female character (Heart Gold/Soul Silver)" since we don't know her name yet.It's best we avoid misinformation until more is revealed. - seriousexpression
:There would be no point in having an article then. Although I think it is jumping the gun as well, the article does say that it is a fan-made name. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 00:35, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
::This article may be jumping the gun slightly, maybe, but truly, I'd rather have done it now just in case some dork comes along and wonders where she is. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:28, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
:::We can always change it later.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 00:48, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I've seen her called Mariko on the Japanese site Pixiv. I haven't heard it anywhere else; is this another fan nickname, or is it official? --[[User:Lime|Lime]] 21:42, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:Might be one of the default names. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:47, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Isn't the female referred to as like Haato and the male referred to as Souru? [[User:Erik Destler|~*~ Erik Destler ~*~]] 22:48, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

== New screenshot ==

Can someone translate what she is saying in the new screenshot, please? This may give us some kind of information about her... [[User:Mr. Charlie|'''Mr. Charlie''']]([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|''TalkToMe'']]) 20:51, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v727/joodude/1245089067561.jpg

This one? -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 20:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::Yes. I've tried to translate it, but realized soon enough that translating anything that does not use our alphabet is not for me. I got "Steer!". Please. [[User:Mr. Charlie|'''Mr. Charlie''']]([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|''TalkToMe'']]) 21:01, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::According to the gallery on {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}} it reads ''"Yeah! How about you show your mom, too?"'' '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 21:09, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

== About Soul...==

I know this is simply speculation,but Soul looks a lot like that [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/1/1a/Playergirl.png girl] that replaces Red if you insert a Crystal cart. with Kris into the game,right? Okay,maybe not a lot but still..Leaf is obviously based off that girl playable character that was left out of the first generation,right? Maybe Soul is based off this girl? If so,could we put it in the article? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 20:54, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:A. This comparison is an opinion, and B. No, because it's an opinion it cannot go into the article. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:57, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
::Oh,okay,just making sure. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 20:58, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Sketch: If that's so, then why is the following paragraph in the article:
:::"Due to her similar hair, it is believed by some fans that she is to Kris what Leaf is to Blue: a vastly redesigned version of her. As Kris's Special counterpart Crystal likewise had brown hair initially (though it was changed to blue to match her counterparts of Kris and Marina), and currently has brown hair again." -[[User:Spideym|Spideym]] 21:55, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Ask the Echidna. He put it in. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 21:57, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::If anything, Stadium Boy and Stadium Girl are just that. Stadium people. Because this was before they identified your game as your game through the Trainer's appearance. Plus, since RGBY are playable with Stadium 2, it'd look really odd to see Red face... himself. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:49, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

==SERIOUS BUSINESS==
I just read one of the scans's captions on the [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions]]page. It said:

'''Inside Professor Elm's laboratory. "Oh, Soul! I've been waiting for you to come!"''

Does this mean the name is now set in stone? I don't want to edit it straight away incase this isn't the case. - ''[[User:Lucadan|Lucadan]] ([[User talk:Lucadan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lucadan|contribs]])'' 15:42, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

:New stuff goes at the bottom. Also, look at that picture. Elm is talking to GOLD, not [[Soul|this new girl <s>that no one cares about</s>]]. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 20:21, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
::Most likely, "Soul" is a default name for Gold, like how "Diamond" and "Pearl" are default names for Lucas. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 20:30, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
:::{{tt|Exactly.|Which probably means that was a screenshot from SoulSilver.}} --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 20:46, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

So, why not change the article to Heart? [[User:Erik Destler|~*~ Erik Destler ~*~]] 22:49, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:That will likely be a default name for '''both''' in ''HeartGold'', just like Soul will be in ''SS'', just as “Red” was a default for both the [[Red (game)|boy]] '''and''' the [[Leaf (game)|girl]] in ''FireRed'' and “Green” for both in ''LeafGreen''. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 13:11, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
== Final proof ==

Eusine in HGSS. Means Crystal stuff is there. Means Soul is Kris. Yes or yes? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:27, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
: Hmm... Let's do it. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 19:35, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::I think we should wait for CoroCoro to come out before making any decisions just yet.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 19:44, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Three days? Good for me. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:44, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Waiting for concrete proof would be ideal. If it explicitly mentions that it's Kris, then go for it. Otherwise... well isn't that a lot of speculation that we can enjoy ;) '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 19:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::What does Eusine have to do with anything? Just because he's from Crystal doesn't mean that everything else is. They could just be simply putting some events from Crystal into this game. Chris is right. Wait for concrete proof. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:10, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::The main argument in the past was that this girl must be a new character because HeartGold and SoulSilver are not remakes of Crystal, so anything that was in Crystal can't be in HG/SS. Now that that argument has been put to rest, there's really no reason left to believe she isn't Kris. At the very least, a merge would solve the problem that this page is located at an unofficial title.[[User:Jeff|-Jeff]][[User talk:Jeff|(talk)]] 20:56, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::...No reason? How about the fact that Soul looks NOTHING like Kris, unlike the other redesigned characters? Or the fact that that her clothes DON'T look like they're based on Kris' ones, unlike the other player characters' outfits? Or the fact that she would be the only player character whose hair color was changed to a totally different one in a remake (Red had brown hair in Pokémon Stadium 2, so no, FR/LG didn't change his hair from black to brown), and even compared to the few characters who had a hair color change (Lance and Lorelei), the change between from Kris' and Soul's hair color is too drastic (Lance and Lorelei's new hair colors [reddish pink and red respectively] could be obtained by changing the tonality of the original ones [reddish orange and purple], but you can't get Soul's hair color [brown] by changing the tonality of Kris' [blue])? - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 21:34, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Kris's hair color was originally dark brown before they changed it to fit with the "Crystal" theme. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 21:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::When did game Kris have brown hair? - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 21:41, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::The manga. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:19, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Which should be irrelevant because Special Crystal is based on game Kris, and not the other way around. - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 22:25, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::However, she did still have Brown hair...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:32, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::Yeah, there was something about a prototype female character similar to Kris that had brown hair, but I haven't found a picture so far x.x '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 22:35, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::PsychicRider: And anime Bill had green hair. So?
:::::::::::::Sol: You mean the "prototypical" artwork that was revealed years before Gold and Silver came out?:
:::::::::::::http://web.archive.org/web/20041021125709/http://pokefor.greenchu.de/meowth346/gbc/alpha/alpha_girltrainer.png
::::::::::::: - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 22:43, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Bill has nothing to do with this...He may or may not be getting new artwork...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:08, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:Neither have Pokémon Special or Special Crystal. The manga has even less influence in the games than the anime. - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 23:13, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::You can't even keep your point. Special Crys did get a change...She had brown that switched to blue...Oh, kinda like this, but reversed...hm...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:19, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::"You can't even keep your point." < What? - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 23:27, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Guys, how much like Red did Red look? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:20, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::A lot. Both original and FRLG Red have brown spiky hair, red-and-white jacket and cap, black shirt, blue pants... - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 23:27, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Just wanted to say, I support the merge, for what that's worth. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 00:33, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
:The whole thing with PokéSpe Crystal's Blue/Brown hair aside, I'm going to side with Chris and Kenji-girl and suggest waiting until we at least get more concrete evidence pertaining specifically to this character -- such as [[Kris_(game)#Optional_names_for_Kris|sharing default names]], a mention on [http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir/ Masuda's blog] (or preferably [http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/art/ Sugimori's] with some early concept art, just to see that blog updated more than once a year), etc. -- before accepting that Kris and Soul are the same character.
::Not even Leaf's design is changed as drastically from the prototype RGB girl -- Leaf and RBG girl both have long brown hair, a mini-skirt, and no sleeves -- as Soul is from Kris. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 02:41, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
we already jumped the gun by making this page, so we might as well keep it until everything is 100% confirmed. I don't see how Crystal stuff being in these remakes automatically makes Soul Kris. What is so bad about waiting. And just throwing this in, but how about in the future we actually wait instead of having to go through this again. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 02:13, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Waiting would mean someone comes along and makes an article at "NOO GURL (Hartgald/soulver)" that's an absolute mess. And considering the fandom's whining about "SHE'S NOT KRIS" and all that bullcrap... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:29, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
She's not Kris. EoT. I don't see how Eusine has anything to do with that. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 17:34, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
:What evidence is there that she's not Kris, aside from their appearances? We've come up with evidence to indicate she is, the appearance of Crystal elements and her appearing with Eusine in a picture being a few. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 00:06, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
::It's not any evidence. It's just a failed comparative logic. Come on, we didn't even believe CONFIRMED dub title when it revealed [[Barry (anime)|Barry]]'s name. We didn't move his page until the airing of the episode. So, why are we supposed to believe some failed logic? Because the main 'Pedia admin is supporter of the "Soul is Kris" theory? It is NOT an evidence. As long as it's not blatantly stated that she is design-raped Kris after a nuclear explosion, we should not believe any failed "evidences" like that. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 08:41, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I just want to say that I oppose the merge. They are obviously different people, and like said above, if you do merge them people will be saying "WTH! SOUL ISNT KRIS" and making fail pages named "new gil(hgss)" --[[User:Blake|Blake]] 13:46, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
:''An'' evidence? Sheez. Anyway, Maxim, I'm still not seeing any logic coming from you, aside from "they look different." Well, you also had "Not a Crystal remake," but that's obviously no longer the case. We've got "They don't look ''that'' different," "They fill the same role in-game," "Kris appears in a shot with Eusine," "Other characters have undergone drastic visual changes," etc.
:Please, if you have an argument, present it. It doesn't seem like you're using any logic, and I'd love for that to change. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 17:22, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
::We have no proof that Soul is Kris, or even that Kris wont even be a character. She might pop up somewhere else, like Blue being a Gym Leader. --[[User:Blake|Blake]] 19:23, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
:::We also have no proof that Soul is '''''NOT''''' Kris. Blue popped up as Gym Leader 3 years after he began his journey. This is back at the beginning of Gold/Kris's journey. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 19:27, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Both sides of the argument piss off the other side, so maybe we should leave this as is for now. We have no evidence to support either side, and all that is happening now are insults on how the other side isn't right. So just drop the subject for now, and we will pick it up once something in the Pokémon world actually happens. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 19:34, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Does it really matter if she is Kris or not. At least they are remaking G/S. That's what matters. I would love to have Kris back. Soul and Kris have similarities. They probably did that on purpose. To make her look similar to Kris. So until she is confirmed to be Kris, if she is her, i say no merger yet.--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 04:58, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::I say no to any merger at this point. There is strong evidence in favour of her being Kris, however it is nowhere near confirmed. I say we leave it as it is for the moment, otherwise, the situation could arise where we merge the pages, and then have the messy job of unmerging them, and removing all the Soul stuff from Kris's page. Surely you guys can wait til September 12th to merge the page, just to make sure your doing it when it is confirmed, and not another instance where Bulbapedia jumps the gun.
But I have a question, what will be the proof for either side, when the game comes out, if Kris isn't her name, when she is the NPC, will that confirm she's not Kris, equally if Kris is in her optional names, will that confirm she is Kris? [[User:Max King|Max King]] 14:17, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Personally, I believe it's what her NPC "helper" name is, what will determine who she is. Be it Kris, Soul or something totally different. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 18:34, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::@ Max King: No, it wouldn't prove a damned thing. If you'll recall, the player character from Diamond and Pearl have Ash/Satoshi or Gary/Shigeru amongst their default names, but that most certainly does not make them Red or Green. Player-Character Girl should use this name for now, since the mob of fanon has spoken. It'll be changed later whether they like it or not. [[User:Fishman|Fishman]] 13:44, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::If I may add my opinion into this, I don't believe for a second they are the same and oppose the merge. In FireRed/LeafGreen, Red and Leaf were recognisable as who they were meant to be (albeit Leaf never appeared in the original, but there WAS beta artwork of her); Red still had a red jacket, red hat, blue pants; and Leaf still had the boots and same hairstyle. On the other hand, Soul resembles Kris in no way, shape, or form beyond the hair, and even then...I don't see the hair similarities beyond pigtails. Alongside that, if Soul WAS Kris, why would she look so utterly different if Gold and Silver are easily recognizable? It just doesn't make sense. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 09:19, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:Given her weird hair similar to the original Kris’s, and her appearance alongside Eusine in that [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/pokemon/images/img_pokemon_03_04.jpg Burned Tower/Legendary Beasts artwork], I am inclined to agree with TTE that she seems to be mainly a heavy redesign Kris/Crystal, and she will definitely be named the latter when I play her in ''SoulSilver''( now that I feel pretty sure ''HG''/''SS'' will be thirdversionless like ''FR/LG''). But there is something to be said for putting her at her NPC name, unless she is nameable as an NPC, in which case I say merge to Kris for sure. The REAL question we should be asking is what we do with '''''Gold''''' if '''''his''''' NPC name is nothing like “Gold”. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 13:11, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
::Eusine's design hardly changed from his Crystal art, at all. The only thing that stands out as "major" is the designs on his suit. Everything else is basically the same (unless you consider adding lines to his hair a major addition, or that his one bang flipped sides). [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 13:41, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Sorry, I think I said that badly. Wasn’t saying Eusine looks weird. Should be more clear now. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 14:41, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
::::To answer your question, if Gold gets a new NPC name, then the obvious solution is to create a new article for him with regards to HG/SS, and leave [[Gold (game)]] solely for any and all details with regards to G/S/C.
::::But, this has nothing to do with improvement to {{tt|Soul's|Or whoever the heck she is!}} article, so back to point, or continue the discussion [[Talk:Gold (game)|somewhere else]]? '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 15:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, I didn’t mean to start a tangent on it here, just honestly think it’s a more pertinent question than this one. But not one that needs addressing just yet... kinda like this. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 16:19, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
===Hey look, a section break!===
Strange as it may sound, I agree with Mav. Neither side is really gaining any ground here, so we should all just call her what we want to call her, be it "Soul," "Kris," "Maria," etc, and stop yelling at people who don't agree. And it's not like Bulbapedia defines reality. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 08:39, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:But both sides should agree that the name "Soul" for the girl is practically denied. All screens confirm "Heart" as a version name for the girl and the page should be moved. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 08:41, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
While I think she's clearly just supposed to be Crys's equivalent, and Crys in the Special manga will thus have her outfit when she reappears, if the article really MUST use a name to refer to this "new" girl, why the hell is Soul used? The ONLY names that have been seen for her are Heart and Miki, while the MALE character has only been seen with the names Soul and Hiroshi. (Miki and Hiroshi only being used in a wireless battle for the second versions of them.) If there's a name used for her, it should be Heart for now. [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 00:42, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::Soul is mainly used because the FRLG girl was Leaf. Therefore, it's only logical that she'd be named Soul, following Leaf's pattern of being named after the first word in the second game. I say we keep it as Soul until the game comes out, where if it turns out she's Heart we change it then. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 01:37, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::How can this be logical when screens say otherwise? :/ [[User:Erik Destler|~*~ Erik Destler ~*~]] 22:52, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Except to me, it's only logical that she's just the new version of Crys, regardless of what you wanna call her, or what she's called when she's an NPC. (I'm betting the boy won't be named "Gold" when he's an NPC, but he doesn't have a separate page from the G/S/C versions' boy. Odds are very likely that the boy and girl will get 'real' names just like gen 3 and 4 gave them.) Bottom line is that "Soul" has never been used in any way for her; it's nothing but speculation, and thus it should not be presented as such on an encyclopedia. [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 02:10, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::That's why we have the template... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:30, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::If you mean the "has no official name", that doesn't change the fact she's referred to as Soul throughout the article, which has lead to everyone annoyingly calling her as such like it's official. The most ridiculous thing is that the Japanese equivalent is there; seriously, what the hell? She should either not be referred to with any name or be called by a name that she's actually been seen having in-game, Heart. Not to mention it should be written in a way that explains where her names come from, rather than misleadingly-worded statements like "Soul is the female player character..." [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 02:45, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Perhaps the best way to approach this for now is to give the article a more neutral point of view with respect to the Kris/Soul debate. Also, I've stated several times on BMGf why I think using the default names isn't an indicator of this girl's identity. Default names have changed from game to game, see [[Gold (game)]]. Chances are, she'll have a new default name in HG/SS, but then again, so will Gold. The best evidence I can think of is to look at the anime and manga. If this girl is introduced as a separate character in those media, we can assume she's a new character in the games, if Crystal and Marina just end up getting new looks, then it's safe to say that this girl is Kris.[[User:Jeff|-Jeff]][[User talk:Jeff|(talk)]] 15:34, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::@ Eric Destler: Screens tell us which names the people who took the screens are using, not which names are default. As others have pointed out, we've seen screens with a number of names for the characters in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum, and none of them were the names we wound up using for the characters. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 23:55, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Guys Kris is Soul. Give me one good reason why Kris isn't Soul.{{unsigned|Pokemon1234567890}}
:::::::::Because she broke Strong Bad's rule about Japanese cartoons. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:51, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:Why cant you all just wait 40 days until the games come out and we can finally have the answer? Soul is an unofficial name. and think about it. Green/Leaf diddnt appear in Red/Blue/Yellow other then that picture in the guidebook. Even then, she was portrayed by her Manga counterpart. In the remakes she got a new look, and was basically a new character. --[[User:Blake|Blake]] 18:04, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, neither side of this argument has any real evidence to support its opinion. At this point, all anyone knows is that there's a female playable character in this game. Some people look at the design and see a radical redesign of Kris; others think it's a new character. The art is the only grounds anyone has for forming an opinion, and this page has certainly proved that that's not a good enough basis for making a decision. Since we've seen that the pre-release screenshots have a history of giving the characters different names from their "real" ones, the text boxes referring to her as "Heart" aren't any help either. In lieu of any new information either way, it would seem most reasonable to me to leave this page as it is until we know more. After all, if this is a redesign of Kris, I don't think anyone can disagree that it has succeeded in making her look like a new character, at least moreso than any previous redesign. We don't have any concrete information, so there's really nothing to do but wait. Bickering over whether Kris and "Soul's" hairstyles match obviously isn't going to get us anywhere. Actually, with the ridiculously fierce debate this trivial issue has inspired, I can only hope the girl ends up being named "Cindy." [[User:Kyunji|Kyunji]] 04:54, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Kyunji is right you know! Let's just STOP! It's really annoying! Let's just WAIT! Gees! Why does NO ONE listens!?

Signed,
--[[User:The Bulb's Master|The Bulb's Master]] 18:09, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Master of Bulbasaur and the Turtwig♀
:Wait for what exactly? Nintendo to hold a press conference revealing this girl's identity? It's not going to happen, and no matter what evidence we get, this debate will continue to exist. I'm hoping that we can get some resolution when we find out how the Manga and possibly Anime handle this but I'm not holding my breath. The only thing that is known for now is that some people view her as an updated Kris, and some people view her as a new character. Currently, there are still articles, such as [[Kris (game)]] which refer to "Soul" as a new character. These need to be fixed to be more neutral with respect to the debate. Also, to fix this article, how about merging it with Kris's article, but giving the HG/SS girl her own section along with some background on the Kris/Soul debate?[[User:Jeff|-Jeff]][[User talk:Jeff|(talk)]] 17:21, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::I agree. I think the primary reason most of the fandom is treating this as a new girl named Soul is because of the BP page. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 17:39, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I just think once we play the game and learn more of the storyline behind her, then we might have more of an idea of who she is. Merging them into one article will be messy, because once the games come out, there will be many things to add to this article, such as Party template(if you battle her), and the list of names to choose from. and she is obviously a new character. Soul really doesnt look much like her. Different hair styles, different clothes, different eye/hair colors, etc. Soul isnt any more a remake of Kris as [[Pearl (game)|Pearl]] is a remake of [[Wally]]. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 20:18, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::Once again: Since we've established that there is no definite evidence to support either side of the argument, it would be illogical to reverse the article's current stance on the situation. Merging this article with Kris's would be an entirely subjective decision, and one could use what little we know now to make an equally valid case for separating the two again. Whatever happens, the nickname "Soul" is certainly here to stay; it's far too late to do anything about that. Personally, I'm fine with it -- if this is indeed a new character, there's precedent for the nomenclature in FRLG -- but unfortunately for those who disagree, it is very hard to remove an idea from the minds of the fanbase once it has been planted. On another note, I would certainly support making the other articles more neutral on the subject, since this has somehow turned into a serious issue. [[User:Kyunji|Kyunji]] 23:28, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Hasn't anyone thought that her name might change if you pick a diffrent starter Pokemon? For example: If you pick Totodile, her name is Kris. And if you pick a Chikitora, it's Heart! No one ever thought of that! Signed,--[[User:The Bulb's Master|The Bulb's Master]] 12:51, 5 August 2009 (UTC) Master of Bulbasaur and Turtwig♀
:That is very unlikely. The rival's Pokemon usually has an advantage over yours, and the Female's Pokemon usualy is whatever is left.(Although May/Brendan isnt considered your rival?) It has nothing to do with the names. The names are based on which version game you are playing. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 13:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
::Having watched this go nowhere for months, I have no hesitation in saying [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/index.php get to the forums] if you really want to theorize. There will be no solution to this debate, and hence Bulbapedia will stay with this ''temporary'' name until something more official comes out. End of story. Don't reply here. Srsly. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:31, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree, I can see it that we might have to ban this if it get out of hand in forums and Bulbapedia.--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 03:30, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Look, with the games announced here now, Pokémon.com will soon have pictures of the player characters (I give it a week or two) and one of us can write in and say: "I wemembew in Pokemon Cwystal, you could be a girl too, is this the same one?" then we'll have confirmation and we can wait to learn her pseudo-rival name to make it official (in less than a month).--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:35, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::I don't mean to get in the heat of the arguement here, but i have a question. Why are we calling her Soul? I'm neutral on the aspect of she is Kris or not (nor could i care), but if she's being called Heart in all the screenshots so far, and Gold being called Soul, why is she being called Soul? It's weird to base it off of one game's name. Wouldn't it be best to call her by the name she's being called in the screenshots? [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 05:48, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::When FireRed and LeafGreen were made, they introduced a female playable character. It was later discovered that her name was Leaf, the prefix of the second remake name. Because of this, people gave this girl the name Soul. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 05:57, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Not to sound rude but... so what? In the screenshots, the guy is being referred to as Soul (well, Souru-Kun. Same thing) and she's being referred to as Heart. So wouldn't it be more correct to call her Heart? I don't think it matters what happened in Leaf Green, considering it makes no difference to this game at all. If the screenshots call her Heart, why can't we call her Heart? Even if we don't... its really incorrect to call her Soul because thats what the guy (known as Gold in the originals) is being referred to. Very confusing, if you ask me. o.O [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 20:47, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Don't preach to me. I gave you the answer you were looking for, and I wasn't the one who named this page. It's not like it matters anyway. The Games come out in less then a month and then all will be set straight. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:49, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

===Section break 2===
Does any1 remember what was said on the remake speculation page? once doesn't make a pattern. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 14:48, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:Ok, look, seriously. Did my last "get off the page" rant not work? Listen.
:This is going nowhere. The game comes out in three weeks. It is noted on the page that it is a ''placeholder'' name, until we get the official one. When the game comes out, and we get a name, we'll move it then. And. Only. Then. No discussions.
:If you really feel so passionate about the Soul/Heart/Kris debate, there are more likeminded people [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=368 right here]. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:05, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
::Has anyone actually thought that another reason for Soul to be Kris can be based on comparison of the female player character's artwork from RGBY and FRLG? Leaf doesn't look like anything as the Gen I girl yet they're the same characters and this is confirmed by the manga since it's based on the games. Likely, Leaf might not even be her real name, which means it's Blue. For English versions, she might be called Green unless we believe that FRLG fixed the RB fiasco. Also, for those that say the girl's Heart and that Gold is Soul, have you forgotten that those are example names like Diamond and Plato are for Lucas, right? Thus, the screenshots might be from SS. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:04, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Leaf's her name. Confirmed by game data. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:34, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah, you're right. I don't even know why I thought otherwise when I wrote that, seriously. But my point remains valid though. I'm still doubtful that Gold is now Hibiki and Soul is Kotone, just because of the anime and Pokémon Sunday. Marina is Kris' anime counterpart but they didn't get the same name. So Kotone is still Soul for me. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 12:34, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::In the games she is Kotone. Deal with it. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 13:36, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::I won't get over it until the games have been hacked through and the data for both Gold and Soul has been obtained, like everyone else. And by your logic, then Dia and Pearl should've been the Japanese names for Lucas and Dawn, when they're obviously not. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 13:43, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

== A vast redesign? ==
She could just be a vast redesign of [[Kris (game)|Kris]]. The hair color change could be to get out of the Crystal theme, and Lorelei's hair went from deep purple to bright red. Both Lucas's and Dawn's outfuts changed vastly, so, my opinion is she's a redesign. [[User:Alec9|''alec'''9''''']] [[Special:Contributions/Alec9|*]] [[User talk:Alec9|-]] [[Gallade (Pokémon)|*]] 18:12, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

== Possible names ==

Okay lemme put these forward:
* ソウル ''Soul'' (based on precedent set by {{ga|Leaf}})
* ミキ ''Miki'' (default name used in Festa battle)
* ハート ''Heart'' (default name used in Festa battle)
* コトネ ''Kotone'' (according to [http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/9950/400760.jpg this])
* クリス ''Kris'' (Crystal, thanks)
* マリナ ''Marina'' (why not?)

Or it could be something completely out of the blue. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:04, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
:I think they called her Kotone in the anime as well. According to that scan anyway. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:05, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
::Still doesn't mean anything until the games say it. All the game/anime connection can help us with is her dub name for the episode, due to the {{an|May}}/{{ga|May}} and {{an|Dawn}}/{{ga|Dawn}} connection. And unless they rename Green as Gary and Red as Ash, that's still an up-in-the-air point. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:18, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
:I'm done with the whole Kris/Soul debate as it's completely ridiculous and dependent on one's definition of the word "character". That said, I still think this article belongs merged with [[Kris (game)]] for the sake of consistency with [[Gold (game)]].[[User:Jeff|-Jeff]][[User talk:Jeff|(talk)]] 14:25, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
::Regarding the so-called "precedent" set by Fire Red and Leaf Green, something happening once does not make it a pattern. [[User:Fishman|Fishman]] 18:56, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
:::I know, right? :/ But people don't listen. But judging by the screenshots, she appears as an NPC in game. So we'll have clarification that her name is Heart when the game is out. [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 19:06, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Did you guys ''REALLY'' have to reopen old wounds? The page was protected because of ranting like this. You want it to happen again? DROP IT. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 19:09, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

== The Final Judgment ==
Pokémon Sunday just confirmed Kotone to be her name in the games. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 23:26, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
:That's it! That's pretty much solid evidence! Is it not?! [[User:Alec9|''alec'''9''''']] [[Special:Contributions/Alec9|*]] [[User talk:Alec9|-]] [[Gallade (Pokémon)|*]] 23:44, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Rain: How does this confirm she's not Kris again?
Remember, Gold has a new name too, it's Hibiki. He's not a new character though. It confirms her name, yes. But I say wait for the slight chance of the opposite gender being nameable and the girl being referred as 'Soul/Heart' confirming she's a new character.

Speaking of Hibiki, why isn't Gold (game) moved to Hibiki (game)?
EDIT: Even if she looked exactly like Kris, would anyone honestly expect her have to her pre-set name to be such? I'm doubtful people would be saying it confirms her being a new character if she looked exactly like Kris, but was still named Kotone. I can see why people see the anime thing as a confirmation, but ''this''? Gold and Kris didn't co-exist originally, so they didn't have normal common names. You guys may as well jump the gun and make a new article for the new male playable character, Hibiki. They can look exactly alike to be the different characters too, Cal anyone? {{unsigned|Raine}}

:Can you please go to the forum about this? We are totally sick of the arguments. For now, Gold is Gold and Kotone is Kotone. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:25, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

== Why remove all hints of Soul? ==

Shouldn't there be a trivia section mentioning that fans named her Soul and that she was referred to as Soul since she was revealed to this day? We do it for Silver saying how fans named him "Kamon". It's a big part of Kotone's history. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:08, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks! --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:26, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

As for the trivia section, the page refers to her as having a Gold and Silver counterpart, shouldn't that be changed to Crystal as she never did have a G/S counterpart?--[[User:Terrios|Terrios]] 12:52, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

== As for her anime appearance ==

Remember what happened when [[Barry]] debuted. He wasn't part of {{ga|Pearl}}'s page for a reason: they're different characters. Same with {{an|Dawn}}-- she's barely mentioned on {{ga|Dawn}}'s page, and game-Dawn is not at all reflected on anime-Dawn's page.

So when Kotone appears in the anime, she'll be at {{an|Kotone}}. Until we get English names. Then we move both of these to the respective English names like we did Dawn and May.

Everyone got that? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:14, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, TTE, most of us do remember what happen with Barry (or Jun for awhile). No1 make a page of Kotone until the Episodes ([[DP143]]/[[DP144]]) air. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 02:59, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

== Her name actually is Soul. ==

I told my friend(who speaks Japanese fluently) about Soul being named Kotone, and he said Kotone is Soul in Japanese. So really, her name is Soul? '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 13:37, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:Until the games are released, she'll remain Soul. For me, Kotone is to Soul what Diamond and Plato were to Lucas, placeholders used by Nintendo to showcase the games. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 13:49, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::I am just saying, because I dont want everyone to change every single link and image name yet. Get a real translator(not google translator) and see what it says. Cause my friend said he looked in his Japanese dictionary and thats what it said. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:19, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::It should stay at Kotone because that is her name in Japanese. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 14:21, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Where have Hibiki and Kotone been revealed to be Gold's and Soul's names? In Pokémon Sunday? Those names sound more like examples than the characters' real names. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 15:08, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well Kotone is still better than Soul. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 15:09, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::How is Kotone a better name then Soul? Still, the point is, the Pokemon sunday thing might have called her Kotone because Kotone is Soul in Japanese. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 15:53, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::No, Kotone DOES NOT mean "Soul" in Japanese. Even if it did, we DO NOT translate names like that. It's like saying that Dawn is called "Light" in Japanese. But Kotone does not mean soul, anyway. It means "sound of a koto (harp)". --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 17:36, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

== Can someone change something for me plz ==

Can they change 6 September 2009's to September 6, 2009's that sounds a lot better. Plus I can't change it.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 15:17, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:That's odd...you should be able to...it's not protected anymore...--'''Dark''' [[Mask of Ice|'''ICE''']] (User:Cold)([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 15:23, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::Only established editors can edit it. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 15:56, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

== Page name ==

Why does it need to be "Kotone (game)", with "Kotone" being a redirect? If she's the only Kotone, her page should just be "Kotone", and, if there are others, "Kotone" needs to be a disambiguation page rather than a redirect. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 07:52, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:There is a change she will be named that in the anime. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 07:53, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::Same as with {{ga|Pearl}} and {{ga|May}} and {{ga|Dawn}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:09, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

== Clothing ==

She is dressed like Mario. The hair is his moustache.

I feel this is important information that must be added to the page post-haste.

~ [[User:BlueJoshi|BlueJoshi]] 01:26, 11 September 2009 (UTC)