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Talk:Region

2013-06-08T05:04:18Z

Bith: /* Four Games in the Case of Unova */ new section

== Can someone do me a favor? ==

Can someone replace the Gen III art of Kanto with the Gen IV art. Thanks.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:33, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

:It's fine the way it is. The map of Kanto should be from the generation it debuted in or in the other words, its debut generation remake. [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 22:52, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::The rest are updated, and on the region's page, we use the updated artwork.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 19:13, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia Section ==

Although Isshu still is made of four parts, there isn't a long o sound anymore. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 12:30, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Mystery Dungeon ==

The article claims that there aren't any humans living in the region where the Mystery Dungeon games take place, but we know of at least one in the (averted) future: The player. It should at least be mentioned that humans are not unheard of in the MD region(s), (otherwise the characters would be wondering what the {{p|Rattata}} a 'human' is). --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 10:23, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

== Unlock ==

Can this be unlocked? There's no need for it to be locked until January. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 18:49, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== The long O sound ==

Would that still count in English, as it is now Unova? Or no?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 03:06, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

== "Regions in the Pokemon world" box section thing at bottom of page. ==

Orre is listed under "Main Series". Shouldn't it be under "sidegames"? I don't know how to edit that box, so zoom zoom ZOOM![[User:Tokeupdude|Tokeupdude]] 18:36, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
:Orre is considered a main series region due to the fact that Colosseum and XD are both RPG games and have almost exactly the same gameplay as Ruby/Sapphire etc., unlike Fiore, Mystery Dungeon world, etc. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 19:51, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
::Gameplay should not alone, determine whether a region is part of the main series or not. Orre does not have gym leaders, a league (yes, Johto lacks one, but it at least shares with Kanto's), connecting routes... I don't understand it. --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 00:37, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
:If it is a "main series" game then why did my description get entirely deleted when I put the description for Orre in the main series section? The mod who undid my post said it was a side game, so I had to re-type that whole description in the side games section, thats why I ask. [[User:Tokeupdude|Tokeupdude]] 06:45, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
::Then you should've asked the person of a higher authority why he/she did that.. Don't be afraid to let them know, and be sure to be nice and calm. --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 18:20, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
:Eh screw it lol. [[User:Tokeupdude|Tokeupdude]] 21:30, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
:::[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Region&diff=next&oldid=1322779] It was [[User:Han Ji-Wan|YOU]] who undid Tokeupdudes edit.[[User:Tempest370|Tempest370]] 08:24, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
::::Oops. My bad. I wasn't really paying attention. xD --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 01:34, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

== Why Orre? ==

I don't think Orre should be listed under main series regions. Yes, Pokemon Colosseum and Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness are RPG's similar to the main series games, but it lacks everything else the main series has. Orre should be under side-series regions. Also, Pokemon Coloseum and Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness are side-series games. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 01:56, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
:'''Orre''' is the setting of [[Pokémon Colosseum]] and [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]], which (after many long community discussions) are both classed as main series titles. '''Fiore''' is the setting of the side series title, {{ga|Pokémon Ranger}}. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 01:13, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
My mistake. I meant to say Pokémon Colosseum and Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness. I fixed it. Anyway, than how come in the regions template, Orre is under side-series regions? Also, they are side-series games, not main-series. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 01:56, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

== Decolora ==

Will Decolora count as a new region ala Orange Islands? The first episode of Season Two Da! implies that the islands are not part of Unova, so will Decolora be counted as a new region? [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] ([[User talk:Iml908|talk]]) 17:26, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

== Trivia section ==

There are some things to the trivia section that need checking:
* ''The names of the five regions visited in the main series games are all composed of four kana: カントー (Kanto), ジョウト (Johto), ホウエン (Hoenn), シンオウ (Sinnoh), and イッシュ (Unova).''; Karosu has only got three of them.
* The last bit of trivia is oddly structured, is it supposed to say "it's"? It could be changed into ''Each region has the letter 'o' present in their English names (Kant'''o''', Joht'''o''', H'''o'''enn, Sinn'''o'''h and Un'''o'''va).'' {{unsigned|Ariano}}
::No, it's is short for it is, so its is correct. Of course, that last trivia entry needs updating. The fact is still true, so just add Kalos to it: "Each region has the letter 'o' in each of its English names (Kant'''o''', J'''o'''ht'''o''', H'''o'''enn, Sinn'''o'''h, Un'''o'''va and Kal'''o'''s)." The sentence structure is odd though I'll admit, maybe change it to "Every region has the letter 'o' in its English name (Kant'''o''', J'''o'''ht'''o''', H'''o'''enn, Sinn'''o'''h, Un'''o'''va and Kal'''o'''s)." [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]]) 01:02, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

== New region ==
The new region is called Karosu. Can someone photoshop the region out of the magazine, heighten its quality, and put it here? You know what, I just reread that, and it sounds complicated. We should still at least add the cropped CoroCoro picture. {{unsigned|Poko907}}
: Real life isn't CSI, you can't heighten the quality with a click of a mouse (at least not to the degree we want). I'd say we'll just wait for when better scans are released which should be in shortly --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 00:35, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
:: Better scans have been released. On a completely different note, do we have any great artists on board? [[User:Poko907|Poko907]] ([[User talk:Poko907|talk]]) 21:13, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

== Kalos Art ==

Shouldn't the pic of the Kalos region be added to the Art section? We have high quality pictures now. [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] ([[User talk:Torpoleon|talk]]) 20:16, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

== Four Games in the Case of Unova ==

In the main paragraph it states each region has at least 3 games when it debuts then goes on to say in parenthesis except Unova which has 4. This is pointless imo and inconsistent, the statement says at least have 3 not all have 3, its inconsistent because Gen 1 had 4 games as well with Red, Green, Blue and Yellow unless were only counting worldwide releases. So either the parenthesized statement should be removed or also include Kanto. [[User:Bith|Bith]] ([[User talk:Bith|talk]]) 05:04, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

EP114

2012-09-20T23:48:36Z

Bith: Looked Closer and realized it was just a strange angle

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'''The Underground Round Up''' (Japanese: '''マルマインだいばくは！？''' ''Big {{tt|Marumine|Electrode}} Explosion!?'') is the 114th episode of the [[Pokémon anime]]. It was first broadcast in Japan on September 23, 1999 and in the United States on September 30, 2000.

{{spoilers}}

==Synopsis==
{{Ash}}, {{an|Misty}}, and {{Tracey}} arrive on [[Hamlin Island]] after releasing {{AP|Lapras}} back into the wild. As luck would have it, a ferry line happens to run from Hamlin straight back to Ash's home town of [[Pallet Town]].

On their way to the ferry Ash exclaims that he cannot wait to get back to Pallet to taste his mother's 'Deep Dish Chili Dog and Pizza Pot Pies.' Tracey says he can't wait to finally meet {{an|Professor Oak}} and Misty remarks that Prof. Oak probably is excited for when the day comes that the three bring the [[GS Ball]] to him.
The trio comes to a road bridge that is blocked. Ash reads aloud a sign which says 'Due to extremely dangerous conditions, persons are forbidden to cross this bridge.' With no other way to get to the ferry dock on the other side, Tracey suggests they cross it anyway. Just as he finishes speaking a huge {{m|Explosion}} blows apart the middle of the bridge.

The three find a row boat and make their way across the small stretch of ocean. Tracey checks things out with his binoculars and remarks that it appears as though there are no people in the town. Sure enough when they arrive they are greeted with a veritable ghost town. The trio walks past an alley way where the viewer sees a pair of devious white eyes watching them. {{TP|Misty|Togepi}} feels a presence but the heroes don't notice.

The three enter the ferry's waiting lounge but come across a locked door which prevents them from getting out to the dock and the ferry itself. Togepi wanders out of the building whilst Ash, Misty and Tracey are pondering how they'll get back to Pallet. As it walks out the door it comes across a playful {{p|Voltorb}} who rolls away. Seeing it as a game Togepi runs after the Voltorb.
As Misty and co. walk out of the building, Misty sees that Togepi is not where she left it. They run out of the building calling for Togepi, running straight past an alley here Togepi is walking on a rolling Voltorb. The three backtrack quickly when they hear Togepi's voice and gaze in amazement of the scene. Ash checks his Pokédex for Voltorb's data. The trio is shocked when [[Pokédex|Dexter]] tells them Voltorb may explode without warning, as Togepi is standing right on top of one. Misty attempts to pull Togepi off but Togepi picks the Voltorb up with it. Ash tells Misty that he feels as though they're not alone in the alley and Tracey agrees. Misty looks up where dozens of ball-shaped silhouettes are hiding behind corners. Ash again checks his Pokédex which gives data for {{p|Electrode}}. Ash and friends become worried when the Pokédex refers to Electrode as the 'Bomb Ball'. The Electrode begin rolling into view, all sparking with electricity. Misty picks up Togepi, Voltorb in hand and the group begin to slowly walk back through the streets where they are greeted by even more sparking Electrode. A gust of wind knocks over a wooden sign, which startles the Electrode who begin to light up. The heroes start sprinting away from them; however the first Electrode causes a chain reaction of explosions. The screaming group manage to stay ahead of the explosions before they are faced with a wall of sparking Electrode.

Ash exclaims the hopelessness of the situation when from on top of a building a man's voice tells them not to move. A bearded man wearing a coat and a cowboy hat throws out several [[Poké Ball]]s which release {{p|Diglett}} everywhere. Ash looks up Diglett on his Pokédex and finds out that they dig tunnels under the surface. The mystery Trainer then tells the Diglett to {{m|dig}} the Electrode underground. The Diglett create holes under the Electrode who safely explode underground. The stranger tells the heroes to follow him.

Back at another building, Togepi continues to roll around on Voltorb while the group sit with the stranger around a table. The man tells the heroes that the island used to be filled with people and tourists, but one day a Voltorb managed to escape from a Pokémon electricity experiment. Soon after escaping the Voltorb began to multiply, and quickly evolved into Electrode. The Electrode became so numerous that they outnumbered the people on the island. The lack of space caused the Electrode to become irritated, and they started exploding causing mayhem on the island. People started leaving immediately and the town ended up deserted, which in turn put the ferry out of commission. Tracey asks why the man is still on the island and Ash suspects he may be a thief. The man laughs it off and introduces himself as {{Oi|Poncho}}, a Diglett Rancher hired by the mayor of the town to get rid of the Electrode. He tells the group that he trains his Diglett to dig a large tunnel from under the small island all the way to a prairie behind the city on Hamlin. His plan is to have the Electrode roll from the island to the prairie, making the island safe once again and giving the Electrode freedom.

After Poncho finishes his story a phone rings and is answered by Misty. It's someone from the mayor's office looking for Poncho. Poncho is told that he is no longer required, because the mayor's office want the Electrode gone today and his methods are taking too long. Poncho tells the crew that the mayor has already hired someone else to take care of the Electrode. The heroes ask each other who else could have been hired.A machine underwater approaches the island.

Poncho tells the group that they probably hired whoever promised to do it the quickest.
The machine hits the island and drives on with caterpillar tires. The group races out and are faced with a huge machine. {{TRT}} appear and spout their motto. They tell the heroes that the mayor hired them and their 'Electrode Eliminator' machine to remove the Electrode quickly. Misty asks why Team Rocket would want to help remove the Electrode, [[Jessie]] and [[James]] tell them that they are getting paid well and they are planning on keeping the Electrode that they move. They retreat to the machine and race off to some Electrode. The machine's arms put pressure on the Electrode and force them to explode. Team Rocket begin picking up the exploded Electrode and put them in a container on the machine.
The heroes can't do anything to stop Team Rocket as they have a contract from the mayor giving them the right to remove the Electrode however they want.
Team Rocket gleefully continue exploding the Electrode and putting them in the container.
Electrode from all over the island make their way over to see what the commotion is and surround the machine of Team Rocket. Poncho notes that the Electrode are extremely angry and Tracey points out that the condensed explosion of the huge number of Electrode could destroy the entire island. The friendly Voltorb hops over to the front of the machine and Team Rocket decide to blow it up. Togepi begins waving its arms before they start glowing blue in an attempted {{m|Metronome}} attack. Togepi begins hopping up and down performing a {{m|Splash}} and Misty thinks that it may be trying an attack. Tracey and Ash brush it off and say Togepi is too young to know any moves.
James is having trouble hitting the rogue Voltorb and Jessie and Meowth give him a verbal spray. Despite his best efforts James cannot manage to stop the Voltorb. Togepi runs out to assist the Voltorb and {{AP|Pikachu}} runs to Togepi's side. Pikachu {{m|Thunderbolt}}s the machine but as usual Team Rocket have shock-proofed the machine. Team Rocket advance on Togepi, Pikachu and Voltorb. Poncho calls Team Rocket a disgrace to the Electrode wrangling profession and pulls out a Poké Ball from under his hat.
Out from the Poké Ball comes a {{p|Dugtrio}}. Again Ash checks his Pokédex and looks up Dugtrio's data. Dugtrio creates a massive hole underneath Team Rocket which the machine falls into sending them deep into the ground. Poncho tells the group that the job is only half finished and releases all of his Diglett once more. The Diglett begin digging under the Electrode and cause them to roll into the tunnel Poncho created underground.

Team Rocket are sitting, moping about their defeat when the stampede of Electrode head straight towards them. The Electrode sweep Team Rocket along with them as the Diglett act as a conveyor belt to move the Electrode back above ground. Dugtrio leads all of the Electrode out to the grassy prairie where they jump around happily. Poncho takes the heroes to the prairie in his Diglett hot-air balloon where they watch the Electrode enjoying themselves. The friendly Voltorb goes to rejoin its friends and is followed by Togepi who starts crying when it must say goodbye. Misty tells Togepi that you can still be friends with someone in your heart, even if they aren't with you and the Voltorb rushes off to be with its Electrode friends.

Soon the island is reinhabited by people and the bridge is repaired. The ferry service is running again so Ash, Misty and Tracey say their goodbyes to Poncho before boarding it back to Pallet Town. While they wave goodbye from the ferry, a familiar {{an|Jigglypuff}} appears, delighted to have a potential audience. The episode ends with the three heroes, Pikachu and Togepi all looking on to the horizon.

==Major events==
{{animeevents}}

===Debuts===
====Pokémon debuts====

==Characters==
[[File:Dare da EP114.png|200px|thumb|right|{{tt|Dare da?|Who's That Pokémon?}}]]
===Humans===
* {{Ash}}
* {{an|Misty}}
* {{Tracey}}
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]
* {{oi|Poncho}}

===Pokémon===
[[File:WTP EP114.png|200px|thumb|right|Who's That Pokémon?]]
[[Who's That Pokémon?]]: {{p|Kingler}} ''(U.S. and international)''; {{p|Voltorb}} ''(Japan)''

* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Togepi}} ({{OP|Misty|Togepi}})
* {{p|Diglett}} ({{oi|Poncho}}'s; multiple)
* {{p|Dugtrio}} ({{oi|Poncho}}'s)
* {{p|Jigglypuff}} ({{an|Jigglypuff|anime}})
* {{p|Voltorb}}
* {{p|Electrode}} (multiple)
{{right clear}}

==Trivia==
* The book ''[[Prepare for Trouble]]'' is based on this episode.
* Poncho is a reference to {{wp|Clint Eastwood}}.

===Errors===
* At the end of the episode, as {{TP|Misty|Togepi}} is saying goodbye to {{p|Voltorb}}, the vocal effect added to Voltorb's voice is missing.

===Dub edits===
* When Togepi uses {{m|Metronome}} in an attempt to stop Team Rocket from taking Voltorb, it uses Splash. In the original, Misty knew what the attack was, while the attack is unknown to her in the dub.

==In other languages==
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|zh_cmn={{tt|頑皮彈大爆炸|Electrode's Big Explosion}}
|cs={{tt|Podzemní zápas|The underground match}}
|nl={{tt|De Ondergrondse Drijvers|The Underground Floaters}}
|de={{tt|Lektrobal Dilemma|Electrode dilemma}}
|fr_eu={{tt|Rassemblement sous-terrain|Underground gathering}}
|he=איסוף האלקטרודים {{tt|eesuf haElectrodim|Electrode Collecting}}
|hu={{tt|Az elhagyott város|The Abandoned City}}
|it={{tt|L'isola abbandonata|The abandoned island}}
|pt_br={{tt|O Rodeio Subterrâneo|The Underground Round-Up}}
|pt_eu={{tt|A Reunião Subterrânea|The Underground Reunion}}
|es_la={{tt|¡La patrulla subterránea!|The underground patrol!}}
|es_eu={{tt|El rodeo subterráneo|The underground round-up}}
|pl=Podziemna obława
|ro={{tt|O Rundă Sub Pământ|An Underground Round}}
}}

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EP114

2012-09-20T23:36:10Z

Bith:

{{EpicodePrevNext|
prevcode=EP113 |
prevtitle=Viva Las Lapras |
nextcode=EP115 |
nexttitle=A Tent Situation |
series=Original series |
colorscheme=Orange}}
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title_ja=マルマインだいばくは！？ |
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broadcast_us=September 30, 2000 |
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en_op={{so|Pokémon World}} |
ja_op=[[The Rivals|ライバル！]] |
ja_ed=[[Riding on Lapras|ラプラスにのって]] |
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scenario=武上純希 |
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'''The Underground Round Up''' (Japanese: '''マルマインだいばくは！？''' ''Big {{tt|Marumine|Electrode}} Explosion!?'') is the 114th episode of the [[Pokémon anime]]. It was first broadcast in Japan on September 23, 1999 and in the United States on September 30, 2000.

{{spoilers}}

==Synopsis==
{{Ash}}, {{an|Misty}}, and {{Tracey}} arrive on [[Hamlin Island]] after releasing {{AP|Lapras}} back into the wild. As luck would have it, a ferry line happens to run from Hamlin straight back to Ash's home town of [[Pallet Town]].

On their way to the ferry Ash exclaims that he cannot wait to get back to Pallet to taste his mother's 'Deep Dish Chili Dog and Pizza Pot Pies.' Tracey says he can't wait to finally meet {{an|Professor Oak}} and Misty remarks that Prof. Oak probably is excited for when the day comes that the three bring the [[GS Ball]] to him.
The trio comes to a road bridge that is blocked. Ash reads aloud a sign which says 'Due to extremely dangerous conditions, persons are forbidden to cross this bridge.' With no other way to get to the ferry dock on the other side, Tracey suggests they cross it anyway. Just as he finishes speaking a huge {{m|Explosion}} blows apart the middle of the bridge.

The three find a row boat and make their way across the small stretch of ocean. Tracey checks things out with his binoculars and remarks that it appears as though there are no people in the town. Sure enough when they arrive they are greeted with a veritable ghost town. The trio walks past an alley way where the viewer sees a pair of devious white eyes watching them. {{TP|Misty|Togepi}} feels a presence but the heroes don't notice.

The three enter the ferry's waiting lounge but come across a locked door which prevents them from getting out to the dock and the ferry itself. Togepi wanders out of the building whilst Ash, Misty and Tracey are pondering how they'll get back to Pallet. As it walks out the door it comes across a playful {{p|Voltorb}} who rolls away. Seeing it as a game Togepi runs after the Voltorb.
As Misty and co. walk out of the building, Misty sees that Togepi is not where she left it. They run out of the building calling for Togepi, running straight past an alley here Togepi is walking on a rolling Voltorb. The three backtrack quickly when they hear Togepi's voice and gaze in amazement of the scene. Ash checks his Pokédex for Voltorb's data. The trio is shocked when [[Pokédex|Dexter]] tells them Voltorb may explode without warning, as Togepi is standing right on top of one. Misty attempts to pull Togepi off but Togepi picks the Voltorb up with it. Ash tells Misty that he feels as though they're not alone in the alley and Tracey agrees. Misty looks up where dozens of ball-shaped silhouettes are hiding behind corners. Ash again checks his Pokédex which gives data for {{p|Electrode}}. Ash and friends become worried when the Pokédex refers to Electrode as the 'Bomb Ball'. The Electrode begin rolling into view, all sparking with electricity. Misty picks up Togepi, Voltorb in hand and the group begin to slowly walk back through the streets where they are greeted by even more sparking Electrode. A gust of wind knocks over a wooden sign, which startles the Electrode who begin to light up. The heroes start sprinting away from them; however the first Electrode causes a chain reaction of explosions. The screaming group manage to stay ahead of the explosions before they are faced with a wall of sparking Electrode.

Ash exclaims the hopelessness of the situation when from on top of a building a man's voice tells them not to move. A bearded man wearing a coat and a cowboy hat throws out several [[Poké Ball]]s which release {{p|Diglett}} everywhere. Ash looks up Diglett on his Pokédex and finds out that they dig tunnels under the surface. The mystery Trainer then tells the Diglett to {{m|dig}} the Electrode underground. The Diglett create holes under the Electrode who safely explode underground. The stranger tells the heroes to follow him.

Back at another building, Togepi continues to roll around on Voltorb while the group sit with the stranger around a table. The man tells the heroes that the island used to be filled with people and tourists, but one day a Voltorb managed to escape from a Pokémon electricity experiment. Soon after escaping the Voltorb began to multiply, and quickly evolved into Electrode. The Electrode became so numerous that they outnumbered the people on the island. The lack of space caused the Electrode to become irritated, and they started exploding causing mayhem on the island. People started leaving immediately and the town ended up deserted, which in turn put the ferry out of commission. Tracey asks why the man is still on the island and Ash suspects he may be a thief. The man laughs it off and introduces himself as {{Oi|Poncho}}, a Diglett Rancher hired by the mayor of the town to get rid of the Electrode. He tells the group that he trains his Diglett to dig a large tunnel from under the small island all the way to a prairie behind the city on Hamlin. His plan is to have the Electrode roll from the island to the prairie, making the island safe once again and giving the Electrode freedom.

After Poncho finishes his story a phone rings and is answered by Misty. It's someone from the mayor's office looking for Poncho. Poncho is told that he is no longer required, because the mayor's office want the Electrode gone today and his methods are taking too long. Poncho tells the crew that the mayor has already hired someone else to take care of the Electrode. The heroes ask each other who else could have been hired.A machine underwater approaches the island.

Poncho tells the group that they probably hired whoever promised to do it the quickest.
The machine hits the island and drives on with caterpillar tires. The group races out and are faced with a huge machine. {{TRT}} appear and spout their motto. They tell the heroes that the mayor hired them and their 'Electrode Eliminator' machine to remove the Electrode quickly. Misty asks why Team Rocket would want to help remove the Electrode, [[Jessie]] and [[James]] tell them that they are getting paid well and they are planning on keeping the Electrode that they move. They retreat to the machine and race off to some Electrode. The machine's arms put pressure on the Electrode and force them to explode. Team Rocket begin picking up the exploded Electrode and put them in a container on the machine.
The heroes can't do anything to stop Team Rocket as they have a contract from the mayor giving them the right to remove the Electrode however they want.
Team Rocket gleefully continue exploding the Electrode and putting them in the container.
Electrode from all over the island make their way over to see what the commotion is and surround the machine of Team Rocket. Poncho notes that the Electrode are extremely angry and Tracey points out that the condensed explosion of the huge number of Electrode could destroy the entire island. The friendly Voltorb hops over to the front of the machine and Team Rocket decide to blow it up. Togepi begins waving its arms before they start glowing blue in an attempted {{m|Metronome}} attack. Togepi begins hopping up and down performing a {{m|Splash}} and Misty thinks that it may be trying an attack. Tracey and Ash brush it off and say Togepi is too young to know any moves.
James is having trouble hitting the rogue Voltorb and Jessie and Meowth give him a verbal spray. Despite his best efforts James cannot manage to stop the Voltorb. Togepi runs out to assist the Voltorb and {{AP|Pikachu}} runs to Togepi's side. Pikachu {{m|Thunderbolt}}s the machine but as usual Team Rocket have shock-proofed the machine. Team Rocket advance on Togepi, Pikachu and Voltorb. Poncho calls Team Rocket a disgrace to the Electrode wrangling profession and pulls out a Poké Ball from under his hat.
Out from the Poké Ball comes a {{p|Dugtrio}}. Again Ash checks his Pokédex and looks up Dugtrio's data. Dugtrio creates a massive hole underneath Team Rocket which the machine falls into sending them deep into the ground. Poncho tells the group that the job is only half finished and releases all of his Diglett once more. The Diglett begin digging under the Electrode and cause them to roll into the tunnel Poncho created underground.

Team Rocket are sitting, moping about their defeat when the stampede of Electrode head straight towards them. The Electrode sweep Team Rocket along with them as the Diglett act as a conveyor belt to move the Electrode back above ground. Dugtrio leads all of the Electrode out to the grassy prairie where they jump around happily. Poncho takes the heroes to the prairie in his Diglett hot-air balloon where they watch the Electrode enjoying themselves. The friendly Voltorb goes to rejoin its friends and is followed by Togepi who starts crying when it must say goodbye. Misty tells Togepi that you can still be friends with someone in your heart, even if they aren't with you and the Voltorb rushes off to be with its Electrode friends.

Soon the island is reinhabited by people and the bridge is repaired. The ferry service is running again so Ash, Misty and Tracey say their goodbyes to Poncho before boarding it back to Pallet Town. While they wave goodbye from the ferry, a familiar {{an|Jigglypuff}} appears, delighted to have a potential audience. The episode ends with the three heroes, Pikachu and Togepi all looking on to the horizon.

==Major events==
{{animeevents}}

===Debuts===
====Pokémon debuts====

==Characters==
[[File:Dare da EP114.png|200px|thumb|right|{{tt|Dare da?|Who's That Pokémon?}}]]
===Humans===
* {{Ash}}
* {{an|Misty}}
* {{Tracey}}
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]
* {{oi|Poncho}}

===Pokémon===
[[File:WTP EP114.png|200px|thumb|right|Who's That Pokémon?]]
[[Who's That Pokémon?]]: {{p|Kingler}} ''(U.S. and international)''; {{p|Voltorb}} ''(Japan)''

* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Togepi}} ({{OP|Misty|Togepi}})
* {{p|Diglett}} ({{oi|Poncho}}'s; multiple)
* {{p|Dugtrio}} ({{oi|Poncho}}'s)
* {{p|Jigglypuff}} ({{an|Jigglypuff|anime}})
* {{p|Voltorb}}
* {{p|Electrode}} (multiple)
{{right clear}}

==Trivia==
* The book ''[[Prepare for Trouble]]'' is based on this episode.
* Poncho is a reference to {{wp|Clint Eastwood}}.

===Errors===
* At the end of the episode, as {{TP|Misty|Togepi}} is saying goodbye to {{p|Voltorb}}, the vocal effect added to Voltorb's voice is missing.
* When Ash is trying to convince Misty to stay calm while Togepi is holding the Voltorb, Togepi's triangle is colored red not blue.

===Dub edits===
* When Togepi uses {{m|Metronome}} in an attempt to stop Team Rocket from taking Voltorb, it uses Splash. In the original, Misty knew what the attack was, while the attack is unknown to her in the dub.

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Talk:EP112

2012-09-20T22:57:27Z

Bith: /* Grass Types can Mow down Electric Types */ new section

== Dragonite refered to as Legendary Pokemon in Episode ==

I already added this to Dragonites page after getting no reply but would it be worth noting that in the Announcer during the Episode at least in the Engish version refers to Dragonite as a Legendary Pokemon. I do not know it it was an English verion only mistake or not but in either case would it be worth noting in the trivia or error section?--[[User:Marchbaby|Marchbaby]] 16:04, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

==Error==
It says under errors that drake told dragonite to fight fire with fire against charizards dragon rage. couldn't he just mean fight it with the same kind of attack, and not literally with fire? [[User:Plokool|Plokool]] 23:07, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

== Grass Types can Mow down Electric Types ==

After Ash sends out Bulbasaur out against Electabuzz, Ash states Grass Pokemon are good against Electric Pokemon and Tracey agrees even though this is false their neutral to each other felt this was interesting but is it Trivia worthy? [[User:Bith|Bith]] ([[User talk:Bith|talk]]) 22:57, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

EP072

2012-05-21T22:33:54Z

Bith: See Discussion

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'''The Ancient Puzzle of Pokémopolis''' (Japanese: '''げきとつ！ちょうこだいポケモン''' ''Fierce Battle! Ancient Pokémon'') is the 72nd episode of the [[Pokémon anime]]. It was first broadcast in Japan on November 26, 1998 and in the United States on October 14, 1999.

{{spoilers}}

==Synopsis==
{{Ash}} is finally training for the [[Pokémon League]], and is battling {{an|Brock}}. Ash's {{TP|Ash|Pikachu}} is battling Brock's {{TP|Brock|Vulpix}}. Pikachu is about to use {{m|Thunderbolt}}, and Vulpix is about to use {{m|Flamethrower}}, when {{an|Jigglypuff}} appears in-between them. At Ash and Brock's command, Pikachu and Vulpix fire their attacks in a different direction, destroying a rock wall. As Ash and his friends walk closer, they see that they have uncovered the entrance to a temple, as well as a gigantic bell. They find an ancient artifact in the rubble, and an archaeologist named [[Eve]] takes it.

Eve and the other archaeologists are digging up artifacts related to the ancient city of [[Pokémopolis]], and a professor finds a spoon similar to the first artifact. Pokémopolis was destroyed in a storm a long time ago, and an ancient tablet reads that two great powers of destruction will fight and destroy the world, and no human knows the secret to stop them.

That night, {{TRT}} attempts to steal the rare and valuable artifacts from the temple. [[Jessie]] has her {{TP|Jessie|Arbok}} enter the temple and bring back the most valuable thing it can find. It brings back a dark object that appears to be three dark orbs together. It absorbs Arbok, and chases after Team Rocket. It makes footprints in the ground as it chases them, as though it is invisible. It absorbs them as well, offscreen.

Next day, the professor finds the dark device, and is absorbed by it. It then absorbs all the archaeologists except Eve, and turns into a [[Giant Pokémon|giant]] {{p|Gengar}} with strange markings on it. Gengar heads to the nearest town to destroy it. As the nearest town is [[Pallet Town]], Ash tries to stop it. Ash, {{an|Misty}}, and Brock chase after it while Eve heads back to the van, where the artifacts are floating around. He sends {{TP|Ash|Pidgeotto}} after it, but the {{m|Gust}} Attack doesn't do much, and Pidgeotto is absorbed by Gengar. Brock sends {{TP|Brock|Onix|Steelix}} after it and has Onix use {{m|Bind}}, wrapping around Gengar's leg, but Gengar absorbs it too.

Gengar chases Ash, Misty, and Brock back to the van, where Eve is possessed by the two strange artifacts (the one that looks like a spoon and the other one with the same design), and the spoon sticks in the other one like a key, and the spell on Eve and the other artifacts is broken. The two artifacts then transform into a giant {{p|Alakazam}}, also with strange markings on it. Gengar and Alakazam battle. Alakazam shoots energy waves that, when they hit the ground or a wall, transform into strangely-shaped stones. What those are is unknown. Gengar and Alakazam enter a beam struggle, and where the beams collide, they shoot into the sky, threatening to destroy the entire planet.

Ash has his Pikachu use Thunderbolt on them when they step into the water, but although they are affected, no significant damage is caused to them. Then, Jigglypuff appears and {{m|Sing|sings}} its song. Everyone inside the giant Gengar falls asleep, but Gengar and Alakazam do not, as Jigglypuff is too small to put them to sleep. Gengar knocks Alakazam backward, and it crashes into Jigglypuff, sending it flying into the distance, Team Rocket style.

However, Jigglypuff's song makes the giant bell glow, and it summons forth a [[giant Pokémon|giant]] {{p|Jigglypuff}}. The giant Jigglypuff's song is loud and powerful enough to put the giant Gengar and Alakazam to sleep, as well as Ash, Misty, Brock, Eve, Pikachu, and {{TP|Misty|Togepi|Togetic}}. Just like the regular Jigglypuff, the giant Jigglypuff gets angry when it sees that Gengar and Alakazam fell asleep, and pulls off the head of the bell, revealing it to be a paintbrush, and scribbles on Gengar and Alakazam's faces.

When Ash and the others wake up, the dark clouds have vanished, as have the three giant Pokémon. The artifacts and all the giant Gengar's victims have all reappeared. Ash walks up to Team Rocket, and they decide not to battle Ash this time, and run off.

So the mystery of Pokémopolis has been solved, but the biggest mystery has yet to be solved - will Ash ever get to training for the Pokémon League?

==Major events==
*[[Brock's Vulpix]] is revealed to know {{m|Quick Attack}}.{{tt|*|Called Agility in the English dub}}
{{animeevents}}

===Debuts===
====Pokémon====
=====TV episode=====
* {{p|Alakazam}}

==Characters==
===Humans===
[[File:Dare da EP072.png|200px|thumb|right|{{tt|Dare da?|Who's That Pokémon?}}]]
* {{Ash}}
* {{an|Misty}}
* {{an|Brock}}
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]
* {{an|Professor Oak}}
* [[Eve]]

===Pokémon===
[[File:WTP EP072.png|thumb|200px|right|Who's That Pokémon?]]
[[Who's That Pokémon?]]: {{p|Jigglypuff}} ''(US and international)'', {{p|Alakazam}} ''(Japan)''
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Togepi}} ({{OP|Misty|Togepi}})
* {{p|Pidgeotto}} ({{OP|Ash|Pidgeotto}})
* {{p|Krabby}} ({{OP|Ash|Krabby}}; at {{an|Professor Oak|Oak}}'s {{TP|Professor Oak|Laboratory}})
* {{p|Muk}} ({{OP|Ash|Muk}}; at {{an|Professor Oak|Oak}}'s {{TP|Professor Oak|Laboratory}})
* {{p|Onix}} ({{OP|Brock|Onix}})
* {{p|Vulpix}} ({{OP|Brock|Vulpix}})
* {{p|Arbok}} ({{OP|Jessie|Arbok}})
* {{p|Jigglypuff}} ({{an|Jigglypuff|anime}})
* {{p|Jigglypuff}} ({{pkmn2|giant}})
* {{p|Alakazam}} ({{pkmn2|giant}}; debut)
* {{p|Gengar}} ({{pkmn2|giant}})

==Trivia==
[[File:Recurring stone tablet.png|thumb|right|270px|The recurring stone tablet]]
[[File:Unknown Pokemopolis Pokemon Artifact.png|thumb|left|200px|Unreleased Pokémon]]
* [[Professor Oak's lecture]]: {{p|Rapidash}}
** Pokémon senryū summary: Cold winter; if {{p|Rapidash}} was here, it would be warm.
* A stone tablet very similar to the one that Eve deciphers appears exactly four years later in the episode ''[[AG002|A Ruin with a View]]''. It shows up in the possession of [[Professor Alden]], who learns from it the way to get into the stone chamber of the [[Oldale Ruins]].
* James refers to a location in the real world, {{wp|Miami Beach}}.
* This is the second time someone, namely the giant Gengar and Alakazam, doesn't fall asleep to Jigglypuff's song, this time because Jigglypuff was too small to affect them.
* The giant Gengar's ability to trap other people and Pokémon inside its body is somewhat similar to the {{mov|Groudon|fake Groudon|6}} from ''[[M06|Jirachi: Wish Maker]]''. Coincidentally, Team Rocket were trapped inside both.
* Alakazam uses a move similar to {{m|Psycho Cut}}, although this was revealed [[Generation IV|three generations after.]]
* This episode is one of the very few where Team Rocket doesn't blast off.
* This episode is featured on the ''Volume 2: Jigglypuff'' copy of [[Pokémon All-Stars]].
* While examining the various artifacts inside the tent, {{an|Brock}} is seen holding a carving of an [[Prototype Pokémon and characters|unused Pokémon]].

===Errors===
[[File:EP072 error.png|thumb|200px|The title card misspells ''Pokémopolis'' as ''Pokemopolis'']]
* In the beginning of this episode Ash commands Pikachu to use "Electric attack" on [[Brock's Vulpix]]. {{t|Electric}} is a type, not a move (unlike Psychic, which is both a [[Psychic (type)|type]] and a [[Psychic (move)|move]]). This is most likely a translation error, as ThunderShock's Japanese name でんきショック means Electric Shock.
* Although Arbok was the first Pokémon to go into the Dark Device it is never seen for the rest of the episode.
* The title card for this episode misspells ''Pokémopolis'' as ''Pokemopolis'' without the accent over the '''e'''.
* Brock's Vulpix used {{m|Agility}} in this episode, a move it is [[Anime move errors|normally incapable of learning]]. In the original Japanese version, Brock tells Vulpix to use {{m|Quick Attack}}.
* Muk appears much smaller when seen next to Professor Oak.
* Togepi does not retract its spikes when it falls asleep due to the giant Jigglypuff's song

===Dub edits===
* Ash commanded Pikachu to use {{m|ThunderShock}} on Gengar and Alakazam to free himself, Misty, Brock and Eve from being frozen by Gengar. In the original Japanese version, Ash commanded Pikachu to use {{m|Thunderbolt}} on Gengar and Alakazam.

==In other languages==
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2012-05-21T22:33:08Z

Bith: Fire Spin to Flamethrower

== Fire Spin to Flamethrower ==

While rewatching the First Season I noticed Brock Commands Vulpix to use Flamethrower not Fire Spin [[User:Bith|Bith]] 22:33, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Fishing

2012-05-10T04:37:30Z

Bith:

== Exclamation Mark ==

On the page is says that an exclamation mark appears over the partner Pokémon if you and the Pokémon are facing down, side by side. I was standing facing left, with my Pokémon behind me also facing left (looking at me), and the exclamation mark appeared above me once, and my partner twice. However, when it appeared above my partner, it was for Pokémon I either hadn't seen or hadn't caught, so could this be the real factor for whether the exclamation mark appears above you of the partner? [[User:Mattachu|Mattachu]] 13:27, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
:Interesting. I completed my HeartGold national dex last month, but I can test this in my SoulSilver version. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:14, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
::Hmm.. I'll check too, then. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 23:58, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
:::I noticed this today but it seems to have no effect, While I was fishing I got the ! above my head and above my pokemon's head for Magikarps which I already own 2[[User:Bith|Bith]] 04:37, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

== Good rod in HG/SS ==

In HeartGold, at least, the Good Rod isn't found in the Olivine Café, but rather in the building above the Pokécenter in Olivine.
[[User:Eckankar|Eckankar]] 10:48, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Talk:M01

2012-05-10T03:05:26Z

Bith: /* Continuity Citation */

== CGI ==

The CGI effects were made for the Japanese DVD of it and not for the dub. --Qwertybub3 02:32, 01 June 2007 (UTC)
:Seeing as the DVD was only released in 2000 and the Japanese VHS with the CGI in late 1999, I'm inclined to think the dub got the new CGI first. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 12:33, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
::If I remember correctly, something was said on the audio commentary about the CGI being added for the dub. Yes, I listen to audio commentaries. -[[User:Happy Mask Man|Happy Mask Man]] 17:48, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

== The movie and the anime ==

Could anyone tell me when the movie timeline is placed compared to the timeline of the anime? :)
[[User:Amargaard|Amargaard]] 19:13, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

== Who's that pokemon? ==

In the error section of this page it says that meowth gave the wrong names of pokemon. What If he meant to do that, not making it an error?
: I agree, but I thought [[Team Rocket]] made the mistake? Anyway, it only shows their lack of knowledge when it comes to [[Pokémon]] silhouettes, if you catch my drift ... [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 22:36, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
:: He didn't do that in the original version, only in the English dub. Don't believe that excuse Michael Haigney and Norman Grossfeld gave that they were trying to make Team Rocket look stupid. They're only trying to cover for their mistakes. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 00:23, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
::: Ahh, I haven't seen the Japanese (original) version, I wouldn't understand it anyway. However, have you noticed that, [[James]] has a great knowledge of Pokémon? Probably from all of those tutors from his childhood... [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 22:37, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
::::This is what is actually said in the commentary:
::"''That is a mistake that we made. We actually made a mistake when we did the first draft of the script and we actually recorded that incorrectly. We did catch ourselves.''"
::"''Right. I think the son of the sound effects editor noticed it watching the film.''"
::"''Right. And [this] was before it was completely done and [he] pointed it out to us and we ultimately made - maybe it was laziness or maybe it was genius, I don't know (laughs) - decided to keep the mistake in: a) to make something fun for the kids to spot and also we realised that, well, would Team Rocket actually know every Pokémon and be experts to see the silhouettes and point them out correctly? And we decided ultimately that they can make a mistake so we can make a mistake.''"
::::That is a long way from your claims, PAK Man, so lay off the 4Kids bashing.
::::As for James's knowledge, that is something that has been developed since movie 1. Were his cards even seen before AG? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 22:52, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

== Blastoise, Charizard, Venusaur ==

If I remember right, didn't Mewtwo have those clones pre-made, and then just faced them off against Shellshocker, Ash's Charizard, and Bruteroot? That'd mean that Togepi wasn't the only uncloned Pokémon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, he did already have them.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:50, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::<s>That doesn't mean they ''weren't'' uncloned. In the Origin of Mewtwo, they were Bulbasaurtwo, Charmandertwo, and Squirtletwo, all cloned by Dr. Fuji.</s> {{unsigned|PH1RESTRIKE|21:59, 11 February 2009}}
:::Oh wait, scratch that. [[User:PH1RESTRIKE| 1337Fire ]][[User talk:PH1RESTRIKE| ►strike! ]] 22:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

== Fearow Trainer? ==

"When the three other Pokémon trainers are taking off, Cory is seen doing it twice, the second time on a Fearow."

I'm pretty sure that's not true. I remember on a fansite, they claimed that it's a different trainer. The Fearow trainer is a girl, too. I think she's in a crowd a few minutes before the trainers leave for New Island.

Oh, and I think that the DVD commentary confirms this, and that she didn't make it to the island. [[User:Seritinajii|Seritinajii]] 12:29, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

I noticed this as well, cuz I zoomed in on the trainer and i think it was som blonde girl with pigtails that you can see near while Officer Jenny was talking. [[User:ShellShocker|ShellShocker]] 10:34, 29 July 2008

== Only film canon to the anime? ==

At least in non-Japanese languages, I'm sure Ash remembers having seen a Lugia from the Orange Islands when he meets [[Silver (Whirl Islands)|Silver]] and its parent. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 17:17, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:Okay then. Go ahead and add it; I guess I forgot that.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:14, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::The question is, why would any of them not be? Sure, Ash may not remember exactly, but remember, the show can't just assume everyone's seen all of it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:03, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, yeah, that's why I used "''confirmed'' as canon," since the other movies may very well be, but it's not obvious because, like the majority of anime movies, the main series may not show any sort of acknowledgment of things that happened in movies.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 02:52, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Yeah, but then again, sometimes, the series doesn't even acknowledge it's own episodes, no matter how important they really are (eg. Ash forgetting what the P1 Grand Prix was in the Tyrogue episode despite participating, becoming champion of, and loaning his [[Primeape|champ pokemon]] to the runner up, May claiming that she used Skitty in the Fallabor contest when she actually used Beautifly, Ash forgetting double battles despite the fact that the reason why he won HALF of the Orange League Badges IS because of Double Battles, etc, etc.) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 11:17, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

== Mewtwo's Origin for rating? ==

I don't get it, how could "Mewtwo's Origin" prevent the theatrical version from keeping its "G" rating? [[User:ShinyRayquaza|ShinyRayquaza]] 07:29, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

"Mewtwo's Origin" is a little dark for younger audiences. [[User:Animine|Animine]] 18:24, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:You say 'a little dark,' I say 3 pokemon and a human die in it. Not an ambiguous death like Ash's, a clear death. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 01:55, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Just a question. ==

Anybody know who composed the music/background music for this movie? D: [[User:Takoto|Takoto!]] 11:22, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

== Team Aqua Logo? ==

I watched the movie on VHS after reading this aritcle and I think the Trivia should be changed. The so called logo on the bandana is simply a skull and cross bones not an "A". If it was related to anything it should say that it resembles a koffing. Thats my opinion. [[User:Rucario64]]
:Opinion goes on forums. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:35 1 Jul 2008'''''

It is neither the Team Aqua logo, nor a normal Skull and Crossbones. The emblem on the trainers head is the emblem that appears on the stomach of the pokemon Koffing and Weezing. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 04:40, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

== Retcon? ==

Looking back at Ash's revival, it may have been the power of Aura that revived him. --[[User:Wikifixer|Wikifixer]] 12:57, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
:Do you have proof? the only thing i remember that revived him were the tears of the Pokémon that cried when they saw him turn to stone; just as the legend said. --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 22:02, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

== Confused ==

Okay, so I'm a bit confused about the short "Mewtwo's origin"...there is a CD drama, right? is that just a plain audio CD? If so, then what is the 12 minute clip that was cut from the dubbed version of the 1st movie? And what's with Madam Boss and Miyamoto? All i know is Miyamoto saw Mew in the mountains and hasn't been heard from again. --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 22:02, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

== Continuity ==

I know that there are conventions that determine where the movies take place in the Pokemon storyline, and that said conventions place this movie between The Pi-Kahuna and Make Room For Gloom, but I believe it takes place much later: Specifically, between Pallet Party Panic and A Scare in the Air. My material evidence is that when the brainwashed Nurse Joy in the movie requests that Ash and company release all their pokemon, there is no sign of Pidgeotto. Less concrete is my feeling that, up to the point of The Pi-Kahuna, Ash had not accomplished anything that would have gained him sufficient notoriety to cause trainers from as far away as Johto (as indicated by the presence of a Donphan in the party of the trainer that challenges Ash in the movie's opening) to specifically seek Ash out. It would require a feat as significant as placing in the top 16 of his first Pokemon League Competition. I would like others to weigh in on this issue. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 05:10, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:Just because someone has a non-native Poke to the current region, doesn't mean they're from that region, sure it seems like that alot, but it doesn't always have to...Just sayin...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:13, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

==Two issues==
One user added the fact that Ash's Charizard obeyed him in this movie, but I don't find it believable because Ash never gave orders to Charizard and that Charizard attacked Mewtwo without warning. Does anybody agree?

Also, would it be proper to mention that the movie's dub title is a reference to Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back? --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 23:07, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

:I won't comment on your first point, though I do believe that the Star Wars note should be added to the trivia section, especially since articles on episodes have similar notes. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 01:52, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:: Thanks for input. I put it on the page, so let's see how it goes. I'm still waiting for comment on the first topic I put. --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 01:57, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== New Articles ==

I suggest the creation of (at least) 3 new articles: one for Clone Pokemon, one for the clone Pikachu, and one for the clone Meowth. The clone Pikachu and Meowth deserve their own pages because they have personalities and abilities distinct from their originals. A page on Clone Pokemon can refer to Pokemon created by Mewtwo and the his creators, as well as Fossil Pokemon. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 02:27, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

:Please do, and when you do, make a COMPLETE list of the clone Pokemon [[User:Jdrawer|Jdrawer]] 16:18, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

== Wrong information about removed scenes ==

I am pretty much sure that the scenes about Mewtwo's childhood, Amber etc weren't removed from the original movie, they rather didn't exist back then yet! The first movie aired in July 1998 in Japan, the prequel in September 1999 as a "radio drama" in Japan, later on as a short anime. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mewtwo#In_anime_and_related_media And that's what I also remember.
Maybe it's not important, maybe I'm just that interested in this because I highly hated the prequel.
Since til now I was only here to edit minor mistakes, preferably about German Names etc, I couldn't change it myself if my complaint proves itself to be correct.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Aicona}} ([[User talk:Aicona|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aicona|contribs]]) ''

:It was removed from the American version of Pokemon 2000[[User:Jdrawer|Jdrawer]] 16:19, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

two things about the coment just before mine: 1: I have the origin of Mewtwo short on my English copy, of [[m01|the first movie]], and 2, are you sure you mean the american version of [[m02|Pokemon 2000?]] you need to be carefull about that, just to let you know, nothing negative. [[User:Christian Woods| Christian Woods]] [[User talk:Christian Woods| Azu!]] 05:48, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

== Sentret ==

I was watching the movie and there is a Pokémon that looks like it. And it's in the article. Is this speculation or fact?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 01:26, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
:Hmm... I'll go check. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 16:43, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
[http://i50.tinypic.com/2m6agwj.jpg] 
Eh, sorry it's so big. But no, it's not a Sentret. That's a very {{tt|badly drawn Eevee|even if it isn't, the tail isn't a Sentret's}} in the middle, and the one on the left is either a Mankey or a Meowth. The animation isn't all that great, being the first movie and all, but it's not a Sentret either way. I also went back to the beginning of the movie, and there isn't a Sentret in the Pokémon Center during the first storm scene either. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:48, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

== Meowth and clone talk ==

Why is the subject about Meowth and his cloen talking about the moon when istead they talk about learning the lesson about what's the same and what's different? [[User:Jedi Striker|Jedi Striker]] 16:49, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
:Because he talks about how they share the same moon.... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:35, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

== Errors ==

If [http://www.ffufi.net/pokemon/M1_Mistakes.html this] website is correct, should we add these? - '''[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|1992]] 18:19, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
:We have them on the page already. There's an [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/M01#Errors errors] section. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:37, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

==Blu-Ray==
I know this is probably not worth pursuing further, but the wikipedia page for Mewtwo Strikes Back says that the film will be released on Blu-ray disc on April 19, 2011. Can anybody cite this?--[[User:Skulblaka Shurtugal|Skulblaka Shurtugal]] 19:27, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

== Possibly not an error? ==

When Nurse joy said she'd rather be in Mewtwo's storm, than watch the Pokémon fighting, didn't Mewtwo say earlier "They [cloned Pokémon] will remain safe on this island with me, while my storm destroys the planet." when he was capturing all the Pokémon? [[User:Whatinthew0rld|Whatinthew0rld]] 18:04, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

::She said this sentence towards the end of the movie. [[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 11:30, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

== New error ==

Added in the error about Fergus stating all his pokémon were water types when he has Nidoqueen. [[User:Moffooo|Moffooo]] 17:45, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

== Danish sub, "Vingingerne" ==

The trivia in the article says "In the Danish version Brock says 'Jeg vidste ikke vikingerne stadig fantes.', and Ash replies 'Jo, men de turnere mest i Sverige.'". I have not seen the Danish dub, but if that is correct then that is most certainly a reference to the Swedish dansband [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikingarna_(band) Vikingarna]. I don't know if this is something that should be added to the article though.

--[[User:Phil832|Phil832]] 22:29, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

== Togepi #152 ==

The article lists Togepi being listed as Pokémon #152 as an error.

I'm pretty sure back in those days, Pokémon and their numbers were meant to signify the order of their discovery as a '''live specimen.''' Which is why prehistoric Pokémon have higher numbers, & why Mewtwo is before Mew. It was also thrown around that the numbers was the order of their induction into being classified as a Pokémon. Plus both were a way around explaining why everyone in/on Pokémon games/anime/merchandise kept saying there were only 150 ('''known''') Pokémon.

I think at some point this numbering explanation has been forgotten/abandoned by most fans/official sources.

This movie also takes place before much of the structure to the Generation II and the Pokédex numbering in the games in general was laid down. So if anything, Togepi's number should be Trivia not a error. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] 17:31, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
:It stays as an error because if I remember correctly DVD release came out after the Generation II games were introduced in America. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 17:54, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
::Your theory about Pokédex numbers is incorrect... there'd be several exceptions if that were the case. First off, it is stated that Todd's photo of Aerodactyl was the first picture ever taken of it, implying that it had never been seen before then. However, Dratini was in an episode earlier in the series, and his number is higher than Aerodactyl's. Same thing with Snorlax. Also, the legendary birds... they were known to exist in the second episode. As for Mew... I'm pretty sure that she had been seen by at least someone in South America much earlier. Which brings up another point... who has to be the one seeing these Pokémon before adding them to the Pokédex? Could a South American native's sighting be enough or does it need to be a researcher? Also, Mewtwo was most likely never seen by anyone with that authority, since the only people who knew of him were the scientists who created him (who were all killed), Team Rocket (who wouldn't have reported his existance), or trainers like Gary who battled him (who wouldn't have the "authority" as a researcher of adding him), so he'd never have been added to the Pokédex (and in the anime, he wasn't shown to be). So yeah, that definitely wouldn't work if we're talking anime. If we're talking games, it still wouldn't work, since Mew gave birth to Mewtwo, meaning that the scientists must have had a living Mew before Mewtwo was around, and their sighting of Mew would have listed her in the Pokédex before Mewtwo. [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 04:19, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

==Should this be noted?==
I read on dogasu.bulbagarden.net that in response to [[EP038]], there was a message before this movie saying that the movie had no flashing lights and it was safe to watch. Should it be noted here? [[User:JacobTheDoduo|JacobTheDoduo]] 23:17, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

==Possible incorrect Trivia / Errors==
- "''Despite numerous mentions and hints that Charizard, as well as its pre-evolution forms will die if the flame on their tail goes out; both the Charizard clone and Charmandertwo were submerged in liquid with no visible flame while in their incubation chambers.''"

I don't know about the Charmandertwo (I never saw the Mewtwo's Origin short), but I re-watched Mewtwo Strikes Back and the Charizard clone is never seen without a flame. This could be because my DVD is fullscreen and that part may have been cut off the edge of the screen, so I could be wrong here.

- "''This is the second time Ash dies and then comes back to life, the first being in The Tower of Terror.''"

I agree with this, although it's inconsistent with Bulbapedia's page for The Tower of Terror (which says Ash was knocked unconscious, not killed).

- "''In the beginning of the English dub of the feature film, Raymond's Machamp is shown coming out of the Poké Ball twice.''"

Was that just in the dub? Because if not, I don't think that's an error... it looked to me like an instant-replay (which is odd since that's not done ever, but it seems more like trivia than an error). But if it was only in the dub, then yeah, it's probably an error.

- "''Mewtwo is mistakenly colored a light blue instead of a light purple on the VHS and DVD cases.''"

I have the DVD and he's not blue. Part of him does look blue, but other parts of him are definitely purple. This is most likely just due to the printing, and not an error. Unless it was an error and they fixed it or something. [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 21:31, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

== dub edit dispute ==

In the dub edits section it says they made Mewtwo into a stereotypical cold-hearted villain who just wanted world domination. BULL CRAP! Did whoever wrote that even watch the dub? Mewtwo felt betrayed due to the words and actions of Dr, Fuji and Giovanni. As such, he developed a general (and possibly racist) distrust of all humams, and thus wanted to purge the world of their influence by killing them all, as well as the pokemon who shamed themselves by submitting to the humans' will. Where in there does it say "I'm evil and i wanna rule the world"? I know 4Kids isn't the most reputable company, but at least give them ''some'' credit. [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 04:54, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

== First japanese trailer, completely different story? ==

A friend of mine gave me this link, it seems to be the first trailer (japanese) of the movie, but there are some scenes that weren't used in the film itself, it's kinda strange o.o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b70GRNYnacI&feature=youtu.be --[[User:AfO|AfO]] 02:05, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
:Yes, that's already stated on the page. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:07, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

== Continuity Citation ==

Why exactly does it say this movie takes place between EP067 Pi-Kahuna and EP068 Make Room for Gloom, from what I've read theirs really no evidence it takes place here short of the original Japanese episode that would have been airing this week if EP038 Electric Soldier Porygon hadn't occurred. This really doesn't seem like a strong case especially because it seems to contradict the movie on 2 factors.

1)The Pirate Trainer knew who Ash was at the start of the Movie, though Ash hadn't accomplished anything noteworthy yet.

2)Pidgeotto is missing form this movie.

Though I'm sure its been suggested before, and I don't want to look like a Jerk ranting on Bulbapedia, but shouldn't this take place after EP081 because Ash just released his Pidgeot and now only has 4 Pokemon (Pikachu, Bulbasaur, Squirtle and Charizard) on hand, not to mention this was originally planned to be the movie finale to the series before it was extended. Really I just want solid evidence it takes place their and not just a release date. [[User:Bith|Bith]] 03:05, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

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== CGI ==

The CGI effects were made for the Japanese DVD of it and not for the dub. --Qwertybub3 02:32, 01 June 2007 (UTC)
:Seeing as the DVD was only released in 2000 and the Japanese VHS with the CGI in late 1999, I'm inclined to think the dub got the new CGI first. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 12:33, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
::If I remember correctly, something was said on the audio commentary about the CGI being added for the dub. Yes, I listen to audio commentaries. -[[User:Happy Mask Man|Happy Mask Man]] 17:48, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

== The movie and the anime ==

Could anyone tell me when the movie timeline is placed compared to the timeline of the anime? :)
[[User:Amargaard|Amargaard]] 19:13, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

== Who's that pokemon? ==

In the error section of this page it says that meowth gave the wrong names of pokemon. What If he meant to do that, not making it an error?
: I agree, but I thought [[Team Rocket]] made the mistake? Anyway, it only shows their lack of knowledge when it comes to [[Pokémon]] silhouettes, if you catch my drift ... [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 22:36, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
:: He didn't do that in the original version, only in the English dub. Don't believe that excuse Michael Haigney and Norman Grossfeld gave that they were trying to make Team Rocket look stupid. They're only trying to cover for their mistakes. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 00:23, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
::: Ahh, I haven't seen the Japanese (original) version, I wouldn't understand it anyway. However, have you noticed that, [[James]] has a great knowledge of Pokémon? Probably from all of those tutors from his childhood... [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 22:37, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
::::This is what is actually said in the commentary:
::"''That is a mistake that we made. We actually made a mistake when we did the first draft of the script and we actually recorded that incorrectly. We did catch ourselves.''"
::"''Right. I think the son of the sound effects editor noticed it watching the film.''"
::"''Right. And [this] was before it was completely done and [he] pointed it out to us and we ultimately made - maybe it was laziness or maybe it was genius, I don't know (laughs) - decided to keep the mistake in: a) to make something fun for the kids to spot and also we realised that, well, would Team Rocket actually know every Pokémon and be experts to see the silhouettes and point them out correctly? And we decided ultimately that they can make a mistake so we can make a mistake.''"
::::That is a long way from your claims, PAK Man, so lay off the 4Kids bashing.
::::As for James's knowledge, that is something that has been developed since movie 1. Were his cards even seen before AG? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 22:52, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

== Blastoise, Charizard, Venusaur ==

If I remember right, didn't Mewtwo have those clones pre-made, and then just faced them off against Shellshocker, Ash's Charizard, and Bruteroot? That'd mean that Togepi wasn't the only uncloned Pokémon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, he did already have them.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:50, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::<s>That doesn't mean they ''weren't'' uncloned. In the Origin of Mewtwo, they were Bulbasaurtwo, Charmandertwo, and Squirtletwo, all cloned by Dr. Fuji.</s> {{unsigned|PH1RESTRIKE|21:59, 11 February 2009}}
:::Oh wait, scratch that. [[User:PH1RESTRIKE| 1337Fire ]][[User talk:PH1RESTRIKE| ►strike! ]] 22:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

== Fearow Trainer? ==

"When the three other Pokémon trainers are taking off, Cory is seen doing it twice, the second time on a Fearow."

I'm pretty sure that's not true. I remember on a fansite, they claimed that it's a different trainer. The Fearow trainer is a girl, too. I think she's in a crowd a few minutes before the trainers leave for New Island.

Oh, and I think that the DVD commentary confirms this, and that she didn't make it to the island. [[User:Seritinajii|Seritinajii]] 12:29, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

I noticed this as well, cuz I zoomed in on the trainer and i think it was som blonde girl with pigtails that you can see near while Officer Jenny was talking. [[User:ShellShocker|ShellShocker]] 10:34, 29 July 2008

== Only film canon to the anime? ==

At least in non-Japanese languages, I'm sure Ash remembers having seen a Lugia from the Orange Islands when he meets [[Silver (Whirl Islands)|Silver]] and its parent. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 17:17, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
:Okay then. Go ahead and add it; I guess I forgot that.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:14, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::The question is, why would any of them not be? Sure, Ash may not remember exactly, but remember, the show can't just assume everyone's seen all of it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:03, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, yeah, that's why I used "''confirmed'' as canon," since the other movies may very well be, but it's not obvious because, like the majority of anime movies, the main series may not show any sort of acknowledgment of things that happened in movies.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 02:52, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Yeah, but then again, sometimes, the series doesn't even acknowledge it's own episodes, no matter how important they really are (eg. Ash forgetting what the P1 Grand Prix was in the Tyrogue episode despite participating, becoming champion of, and loaning his [[Primeape|champ pokemon]] to the runner up, May claiming that she used Skitty in the Fallabor contest when she actually used Beautifly, Ash forgetting double battles despite the fact that the reason why he won HALF of the Orange League Badges IS because of Double Battles, etc, etc.) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 11:17, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

== Mewtwo's Origin for rating? ==

I don't get it, how could "Mewtwo's Origin" prevent the theatrical version from keeping its "G" rating? [[User:ShinyRayquaza|ShinyRayquaza]] 07:29, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

"Mewtwo's Origin" is a little dark for younger audiences. [[User:Animine|Animine]] 18:24, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:You say 'a little dark,' I say 3 pokemon and a human die in it. Not an ambiguous death like Ash's, a clear death. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 01:55, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Just a question. ==

Anybody know who composed the music/background music for this movie? D: [[User:Takoto|Takoto!]] 11:22, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

== Team Aqua Logo? ==

I watched the movie on VHS after reading this aritcle and I think the Trivia should be changed. The so called logo on the bandana is simply a skull and cross bones not an "A". If it was related to anything it should say that it resembles a koffing. Thats my opinion. [[User:Rucario64]]
:Opinion goes on forums. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:35 1 Jul 2008'''''

It is neither the Team Aqua logo, nor a normal Skull and Crossbones. The emblem on the trainers head is the emblem that appears on the stomach of the pokemon Koffing and Weezing. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 04:40, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

== Retcon? ==

Looking back at Ash's revival, it may have been the power of Aura that revived him. --[[User:Wikifixer|Wikifixer]] 12:57, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
:Do you have proof? the only thing i remember that revived him were the tears of the Pokémon that cried when they saw him turn to stone; just as the legend said. --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 22:02, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

== Confused ==

Okay, so I'm a bit confused about the short "Mewtwo's origin"...there is a CD drama, right? is that just a plain audio CD? If so, then what is the 12 minute clip that was cut from the dubbed version of the 1st movie? And what's with Madam Boss and Miyamoto? All i know is Miyamoto saw Mew in the mountains and hasn't been heard from again. --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 22:02, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

== Continuity ==

I know that there are conventions that determine where the movies take place in the Pokemon storyline, and that said conventions place this movie between The Pi-Kahuna and Make Room For Gloom, but I believe it takes place much later: Specifically, between Pallet Party Panic and A Scare in the Air. My material evidence is that when the brainwashed Nurse Joy in the movie requests that Ash and company release all their pokemon, there is no sign of Pidgeotto. Less concrete is my feeling that, up to the point of The Pi-Kahuna, Ash had not accomplished anything that would have gained him sufficient notoriety to cause trainers from as far away as Johto (as indicated by the presence of a Donphan in the party of the trainer that challenges Ash in the movie's opening) to specifically seek Ash out. It would require a feat as significant as placing in the top 16 of his first Pokemon League Competition. I would like others to weigh in on this issue. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 05:10, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:Just because someone has a non-native Poke to the current region, doesn't mean they're from that region, sure it seems like that alot, but it doesn't always have to...Just sayin...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:13, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

==Two issues==
One user added the fact that Ash's Charizard obeyed him in this movie, but I don't find it believable because Ash never gave orders to Charizard and that Charizard attacked Mewtwo without warning. Does anybody agree?

Also, would it be proper to mention that the movie's dub title is a reference to Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back? --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 23:07, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

:I won't comment on your first point, though I do believe that the Star Wars note should be added to the trivia section, especially since articles on episodes have similar notes. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 01:52, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:: Thanks for input. I put it on the page, so let's see how it goes. I'm still waiting for comment on the first topic I put. --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 01:57, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== New Articles ==

I suggest the creation of (at least) 3 new articles: one for Clone Pokemon, one for the clone Pikachu, and one for the clone Meowth. The clone Pikachu and Meowth deserve their own pages because they have personalities and abilities distinct from their originals. A page on Clone Pokemon can refer to Pokemon created by Mewtwo and the his creators, as well as Fossil Pokemon. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 02:27, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

:Please do, and when you do, make a COMPLETE list of the clone Pokemon [[User:Jdrawer|Jdrawer]] 16:18, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

== Wrong information about removed scenes ==

I am pretty much sure that the scenes about Mewtwo's childhood, Amber etc weren't removed from the original movie, they rather didn't exist back then yet! The first movie aired in July 1998 in Japan, the prequel in September 1999 as a "radio drama" in Japan, later on as a short anime. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mewtwo#In_anime_and_related_media And that's what I also remember.
Maybe it's not important, maybe I'm just that interested in this because I highly hated the prequel.
Since til now I was only here to edit minor mistakes, preferably about German Names etc, I couldn't change it myself if my complaint proves itself to be correct.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Aicona}} ([[User talk:Aicona|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aicona|contribs]]) ''

:It was removed from the American version of Pokemon 2000[[User:Jdrawer|Jdrawer]] 16:19, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

two things about the coment just before mine: 1: I have the origin of Mewtwo short on my English copy, of [[m01|the first movie]], and 2, are you sure you mean the american version of [[m02|Pokemon 2000?]] you need to be carefull about that, just to let you know, nothing negative. [[User:Christian Woods| Christian Woods]] [[User talk:Christian Woods| Azu!]] 05:48, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

== Sentret ==

I was watching the movie and there is a Pokémon that looks like it. And it's in the article. Is this speculation or fact?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 01:26, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
:Hmm... I'll go check. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 16:43, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
[http://i50.tinypic.com/2m6agwj.jpg] 
Eh, sorry it's so big. But no, it's not a Sentret. That's a very {{tt|badly drawn Eevee|even if it isn't, the tail isn't a Sentret's}} in the middle, and the one on the left is either a Mankey or a Meowth. The animation isn't all that great, being the first movie and all, but it's not a Sentret either way. I also went back to the beginning of the movie, and there isn't a Sentret in the Pokémon Center during the first storm scene either. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:48, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

== Meowth and clone talk ==

Why is the subject about Meowth and his cloen talking about the moon when istead they talk about learning the lesson about what's the same and what's different? [[User:Jedi Striker|Jedi Striker]] 16:49, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
:Because he talks about how they share the same moon.... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:35, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

== Errors ==

If [http://www.ffufi.net/pokemon/M1_Mistakes.html this] website is correct, should we add these? - '''[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|1992]] 18:19, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
:We have them on the page already. There's an [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/M01#Errors errors] section. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:37, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

==Blu-Ray==
I know this is probably not worth pursuing further, but the wikipedia page for Mewtwo Strikes Back says that the film will be released on Blu-ray disc on April 19, 2011. Can anybody cite this?--[[User:Skulblaka Shurtugal|Skulblaka Shurtugal]] 19:27, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

== Possibly not an error? ==

When Nurse joy said she'd rather be in Mewtwo's storm, than watch the Pokémon fighting, didn't Mewtwo say earlier "They [cloned Pokémon] will remain safe on this island with me, while my storm destroys the planet." when he was capturing all the Pokémon? [[User:Whatinthew0rld|Whatinthew0rld]] 18:04, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

::She said this sentence towards the end of the movie. [[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 11:30, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

== New error ==

Added in the error about Fergus stating all his pokémon were water types when he has Nidoqueen. [[User:Moffooo|Moffooo]] 17:45, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

== Danish sub, "Vingingerne" ==

The trivia in the article says "In the Danish version Brock says 'Jeg vidste ikke vikingerne stadig fantes.', and Ash replies 'Jo, men de turnere mest i Sverige.'". I have not seen the Danish dub, but if that is correct then that is most certainly a reference to the Swedish dansband [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikingarna_(band) Vikingarna]. I don't know if this is something that should be added to the article though.

--[[User:Phil832|Phil832]] 22:29, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

== Togepi #152 ==

The article lists Togepi being listed as Pokémon #152 as an error.

I'm pretty sure back in those days, Pokémon and their numbers were meant to signify the order of their discovery as a '''live specimen.''' Which is why prehistoric Pokémon have higher numbers, & why Mewtwo is before Mew. It was also thrown around that the numbers was the order of their induction into being classified as a Pokémon. Plus both were a way around explaining why everyone in/on Pokémon games/anime/merchandise kept saying there were only 150 ('''known''') Pokémon.

I think at some point this numbering explanation has been forgotten/abandoned by most fans/official sources.

This movie also takes place before much of the structure to the Generation II and the Pokédex numbering in the games in general was laid down. So if anything, Togepi's number should be Trivia not a error. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] 17:31, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
:It stays as an error because if I remember correctly DVD release came out after the Generation II games were introduced in America. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 17:54, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
::Your theory about Pokédex numbers is incorrect... there'd be several exceptions if that were the case. First off, it is stated that Todd's photo of Aerodactyl was the first picture ever taken of it, implying that it had never been seen before then. However, Dratini was in an episode earlier in the series, and his number is higher than Aerodactyl's. Same thing with Snorlax. Also, the legendary birds... they were known to exist in the second episode. As for Mew... I'm pretty sure that she had been seen by at least someone in South America much earlier. Which brings up another point... who has to be the one seeing these Pokémon before adding them to the Pokédex? Could a South American native's sighting be enough or does it need to be a researcher? Also, Mewtwo was most likely never seen by anyone with that authority, since the only people who knew of him were the scientists who created him (who were all killed), Team Rocket (who wouldn't have reported his existance), or trainers like Gary who battled him (who wouldn't have the "authority" as a researcher of adding him), so he'd never have been added to the Pokédex (and in the anime, he wasn't shown to be). So yeah, that definitely wouldn't work if we're talking anime. If we're talking games, it still wouldn't work, since Mew gave birth to Mewtwo, meaning that the scientists must have had a living Mew before Mewtwo was around, and their sighting of Mew would have listed her in the Pokédex before Mewtwo. [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 04:19, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

==Should this be noted?==
I read on dogasu.bulbagarden.net that in response to [[EP038]], there was a message before this movie saying that the movie had no flashing lights and it was safe to watch. Should it be noted here? [[User:JacobTheDoduo|JacobTheDoduo]] 23:17, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

==Possible incorrect Trivia / Errors==
- "''Despite numerous mentions and hints that Charizard, as well as its pre-evolution forms will die if the flame on their tail goes out; both the Charizard clone and Charmandertwo were submerged in liquid with no visible flame while in their incubation chambers.''"

I don't know about the Charmandertwo (I never saw the Mewtwo's Origin short), but I re-watched Mewtwo Strikes Back and the Charizard clone is never seen without a flame. This could be because my DVD is fullscreen and that part may have been cut off the edge of the screen, so I could be wrong here.

- "''This is the second time Ash dies and then comes back to life, the first being in The Tower of Terror.''"

I agree with this, although it's inconsistent with Bulbapedia's page for The Tower of Terror (which says Ash was knocked unconscious, not killed).

- "''In the beginning of the English dub of the feature film, Raymond's Machamp is shown coming out of the Poké Ball twice.''"

Was that just in the dub? Because if not, I don't think that's an error... it looked to me like an instant-replay (which is odd since that's not done ever, but it seems more like trivia than an error). But if it was only in the dub, then yeah, it's probably an error.

- "''Mewtwo is mistakenly colored a light blue instead of a light purple on the VHS and DVD cases.''"

I have the DVD and he's not blue. Part of him does look blue, but other parts of him are definitely purple. This is most likely just due to the printing, and not an error. Unless it was an error and they fixed it or something. [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 21:31, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

== dub edit dispute ==

In the dub edits section it says they made Mewtwo into a stereotypical cold-hearted villain who just wanted world domination. BULL CRAP! Did whoever wrote that even watch the dub? Mewtwo felt betrayed due to the words and actions of Dr, Fuji and Giovanni. As such, he developed a general (and possibly racist) distrust of all humams, and thus wanted to purge the world of their influence by killing them all, as well as the pokemon who shamed themselves by submitting to the humans' will. Where in there does it say "I'm evil and i wanna rule the world"? I know 4Kids isn't the most reputable company, but at least give them ''some'' credit. [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 04:54, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

== First japanese trailer, completely different story? ==

A friend of mine gave me this link, it seems to be the first trailer (japanese) of the movie, but there are some scenes that weren't used in the film itself, it's kinda strange o.o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b70GRNYnacI&feature=youtu.be --[[User:AfO|AfO]] 02:05, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
:Yes, that's already stated on the page. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:07, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

== Continuity Citation ==

Why exactly does it say this movie takes place between EP067 Pi-Kahuna and EP068 Make Room for Gloom, from what I've read theirs really no evidence it takes place here short of the original Japanese episode that would have been airing this week if EP038 Electric Soldier Porygon hadn't occurred. This really doesn't seem like a strong case especially because it seems to contradict the movie on 2 factors.
1)The Pirate Trainer knew who Ash was at the start of the Movie, though Ash hadn't accomplished anything noteworthy yet.
2)Pidgeotto is missing form this movie.
Though I'm sure its been suggested before, and I don't want to look like a Jerk ranting on Bulbapedia, but shouldn't this take place after EP081 because Ash just released his Pidgeot and now only has 4 Pokemon (Pikachu, Bulbasaur, Squirtle and Charizard) on hand, not to mention this was originally planned to be the movie finale to the series before it was extended. Really I just want solid evidence it takes place their and not just a release date.