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User talk:TTEchidna/Archive Apr-May 10

2010-04-28T11:54:26Z

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Time for HGSS. Fill my page with questions. Yay. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:04, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

== Name Change Reminder ==

I want to remind you about changing my name, now that HGSS is out. Instead of ZeroLatios, I want to change to TyplosionBlaze. I want to change my name because:
:1. I like Typlosion more than Latios now.
:2. I've been OBSESSED with SoulSilver.
[[User:SilverCharmeleon|SilverCharmeleon]] 07:24, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

== GUUHH ==

504's are busting out at me all over. [[User:SilverCharmeleon|SilverCharmeleon]] 07:24, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
::Well first off: SIGN YOUR MESSAGES. Might be a bad idea for me to change it now, but bug me... erm, next Monday, maybe. We're still getting 503's and 504's all over the place and I don't wanna kill the wiki. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:25, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

== Computer-pedia problems ==

I've been having problems with my computer. We got a new computer for Christmas and it doesn't function with the wiki properly. ends of pages are cut off, the side toolbar is gone, and the tabs at the top go missing.Thanks for helping.--[[User:Frostagin|Frost]][[User talk:Frostagin|agin]] 21:56, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
:Likely your browser or internet connection. What're you using, some default garbage like Safari or IE? Get Firefox, you should be golden. If not, check your computer's settings. I've never seen there to be a problem, even on school computers, though, so I can't get my head around it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:00, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, try Firefox, Opera or Chrome. It'll be better for ya overall. Site doesn't work in those browsers? Most likely the web developers' fault. ;-) [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 10:41, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
:::I 'do' use Firefox, never that piece-of-crap IE. It's probably the computer, because this is a new one.However, using full screen seems to help. --[[User:Frostagin|Frost]][[User talk:Frostagin|agin]] 14:58, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Well, check your Firefox prefs... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:49, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== Since I can't edit its talk page... ([[Template:Sidegame]]) ==

The recruitment rate parameters for the MD games need to be changed that 'Evolve' can be entered and it will get rid of the percent sign.

Other than that, it's grate. - ''[[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]]'' [[User:Chosen|-]] 01:07, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
:Oh I '''''hate''''' side games... Should work fine. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:21, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

== Question about a stub ==

Is [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/DP065 this article] still a stub like it says it is on the Main Page? If so could you tell me what to fix? Thanks [[User:.insomniac.|.insomniac.]] 07:21, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
:Doesn't seem to be. Changing Main Page! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:42, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
::Sweet. Also one more thing, is the synopsis really still incomplete or should that be removed O_o I spent like an hour writing it...I thought it was pretty decent in length and information [[User:.insomniac.|.insomniac.]] 09:49, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
:::If you wrote the synopsis to completion, DUH REMOVE IT. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:51, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
::::FFFFFFFF- sorry should have been common sense! Removing it now, thanks for your help dude [[User:.insomniac.|.insomniac.]] 09:53, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::Now go fix AG. I don't cover that crap because I hate Hoenn. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:54, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::: ;_; all in due time sir. I will probably get on that later today, I have to find the episode online and etc. But I will bookmark it and work on it the best I can. [[User:.insomniac.|.insomniac.]] 09:56, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

== Border-radius ==

It seems that you're implementing the strings for every compatible browser in the wiki. I must say that as an Opera user, I'm satisfied that I don't have to necessarly use Firefox to have border-radius, even though it still isn't implemented on the whole wiki. Mind if I help? Just tell me what I have to add/change and I'll happily do it. ;-) [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 10:47, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
:Well, we have a couple templates, {{template|border-radius}}, , that'll replace all calls of "-moz-border-radius: **px" on templates and stuff... I wanna try and make them more easily called, though. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:40, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

== Site errors ==

Are apparent log outs part of the set of predictable errors after the editing of the wiki has been restored? That is, when I open pages, the info sent to the browser is that I'm logged out even though I'm logged in. Refreshing the page seems to solve the issue. [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 10:54, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
:Might be your cookies as well. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:49, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

== *Yawn* ==
Well, I love what you've done with the place. The server's still a little ''slow'' though....=P --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 01:39, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== Yo Ppl R Scared Yo!!! ==

I understand why editing once per day is good on the servers (I mean that, I am so happy a limit has been established), but the new users aren't getting welcomed because ppl don't want to waste their daily edit on some new user. Can that be an exception or something? (Or has it been an exception and no one knew that?)

--'''@PrL F0oLz!!!''' (This Message Is True Though)[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]]'''7 01:54, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:The one-per-day edit is for the userspace, not for user talk... you can still welcome people. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 01:55, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== My Preferences Question ==

Is there a limit to how many times we can edit "My Preferences" or does that not affect the server at all? --[[User:.insomniac.|ιɴsσ]]м[[User_talk:.insomniac.|иιαc]] 08:20, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:Uhhh... not that I know. Don't go crazy. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:22, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

==Edit Request==
Hi TTE. I'm sorry to bother you. I've been having tons of issues with the {{m|Hyper Beam}} page, and I've been trying to put in the endnames for the endcodes of DP152 'Battle Finale of Legends!'. I've been trying extremely hard to get it through, but it never works. Do you think you could give it a try? Dialga, Palkia, and Jupiter's Skuntank is what needs to be done. Please adn thank you. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 19:13, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:Email me the specific edits. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:25, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
::It's sent. Thank you. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 01:47, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
::Did you get it? [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 18:56, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Been busy. I'll check it tonight. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:08, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, that's fine. I was just wondering because sometimes my e-mails don't go through. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 21:35, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::Thank you very much for doing the edit. I really appriciate you taking time out of your schedule to do such a small thing. For some reason, the Hyper Beam page does not work much for me, even when Bulbapedia wasn't having its problems. Thanks again. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 00:49, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::Believe me, it was hell to get it to go through. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:00, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::So you had trouble as well? Is it because the page is so big? [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 01:09, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Nope. 504's. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:41, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Hi, I'm really sorry to ask you of something else, but I've been trying to put 'endcode=Present' at the end of Dawn's Cyndaquil's section on the move {{m|Swift}}, but it won't go through F|. I've been trying for a half an hour, literally. Can you please try?
:::::Even for me it'd possibly take a half hour to get through. You sure it didn't make it even despite a 503/504? Adding the Dialga, Palkia, and Skuntank thing was a major pita... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:30, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::I'm sure, every time I would get a 504, I would click refresh on my watchlist on another tab. That's why I'm asking, it was something so small as 'endcode=Present' just once. If you want, I'll try again later. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 20:39, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Ctrl + R on the 504'd tab, over and over, like a frozen sledgehammer. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:42, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Lol, okay, I'll try that. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 21:03, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I got it. That only took... one try, lol. I guess I just had to wait a while. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 21:07, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Well there you go then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

== Dogasu's Backpack ==

The Digimon thing was an April Fool's Joke. [[User:SilverCharmeleon|SilverCharmeleon]] 18:00, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
:Duh? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:04, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

== Also... ==

Why the hell do we need a Save the Shieldon page? It's just DP045 crammed into a kid's book. [[User:SilverCharmeleon|SilverCharmeleon]] 18:18, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
:Completeness? I dunno. Bring it up on its talk page or with the article's creator. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
::It hasn't been created yet, it's on the wanted articles list. [[User:SilverCharmeleon|SilverCharmeleon]] 07:14, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Hrm. I'd discuss it with... whoever heads the project books are part of. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:18, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
::::It is now a part of Project Merchandise which is led by [[User:Virtual-Z|Virtual-Z]]. We really do need the page for completeness though, and it will get made eventually whether you make it or not. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 07:32, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

== "Anime locations in need of images" Category! ==

Hey TT, I have a question related to "''{{cat|Anime locations in need of images}}''". How can we provide the images/headers of those anime locations which were never even shown in the anime? [[Crimson City]], [[Frodomar City]], [[Gerbera Town]] and [[Sage Town]] are included in the category. If there header/image is missing and if they were shown in the anime then it's fine to include them in the category but how can we ever find the images of these articles if they were just mentioned in the anime (not shown). In that case, these articles will remain in that condition '''+''' in that category forever and our site will remain incomplete. I am saying that we should remove those articles from that category and only include those articles which were shown in the anime literally and we don't have an image of those. What do you think? ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 02:33, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
:Obviously. If they can never be removed from the category, don't have them there. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:43, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
::This is kind of dumbish and weird but I can't find that specific category in those articles. The only categories which are mentioned in those articles are " Anime locations, Kanto locations, Cities ". So, how to remove those articles from that category? Can I bother you to do it please? Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 03:20, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
:::It's tied to the infobox. And when linking categories, use the {{template|cat}} link template. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:33, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Got it, TT. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 10:59, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

== Beautifly? Really? ==

That's the Pokémon of the day you can think of for Easter?[[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 14:19, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
:It's set to do a random one everyday. DUR! He has no control. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 14:33, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
He has no control? But this is his talk page. How does the random Pokémon work? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 14:42, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
::It's a randomly calculated number.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 14:47, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
How do you people know? Have you been illegally editing TTEchidna's page? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 15:20, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
:::No, you can look without saving it.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 15:23, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

== Could you take a look... ==

[[User:MisterE13/Template:Evobox|Here]] please and follow the Prev/Nexts I'd love your input on these ideas I've been kicking around for a while.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 16:12, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
:O_O ummm... They're called '''evo'''boxes. Cause they're suopposed to show, umm, you know, '''evo'''lutions. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 17:23, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
::Still eh about breedables like Volbeat and Illumise and the Nidoran, but I do like the trio setup somewhat. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:15, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
:::...In the evolution section?!? --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 19:33, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I remebered you toying with the idea. It's not like they're ever going to evolve. What about fossils and masters?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 19:36, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::Considering I'm planning to totally revamp the Pokémon pages themselves before Gen V ideally... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:37, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::We have Manaphy and Phione's relationship which are breedable... Either way, I guess I'll just keep these in the old userpace then?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:26, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Manaphy and Phione are a special pair. Phione can only be obtained by breeding Phione. The others don't work that way. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:19, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

== OpenSearch not working ==

The Bulbapedia [[wikipedia:OpenSearch|OpenSearch]] browser plugin is not working in Firefox v3.6.3. I like to be able to search sites using these search plugins because it is quick and convenient. It comes as standard with all MediaWiki distributions. The error when trying to add the plug-in to the browser is as follows:
Firefox could not download the search plugin from:
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/opensearch_desc.php
I hope you can fix this problem or point the attention of someone who can to this problem! Thanks :) --[[User:Bilge|Bilge]] 17:36, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:Hmm. Mine still works, oddly, probably because I installed it before I updated from Firefox 2, even. I'll take it to someone. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:29, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::It appears this issue has been forgotten about as it remains broken. --[[User:Bilge|Bilge]] 11:54, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

== SO SORRY ==

for hurting Typhlosion, but I had a quick question on the Category:(Insert Pokémon) (TCG) categories, like Category:Aron (TCG), for example. Why exactly do we have them?? They are exactly like the [[Aron (TCG)|(Insert Pokémon) (TCG) pages]], but only with less info and no {{tt|neat looking charts|those are really ugly :(}}. Sorry for bothering you on a weird question and everything, --[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 20:23, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:They keep the pages organized. They make sure we don't miss anything. Why do we have the {{cat|Fire-type Pokémon}} category? They're listed on the {{type2|Fire}} page, right? Same with a buttload of other categories. If we didn't have those categories, and we had every Pokémon card page, we might miss some of the ones in the listing, because there's 6000-some cards and thst's not exactly a fun job to find which card you missed by simply looking through '''''every single expansion'''''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

== Your Route colors ==

Where would these be tested, and how so? [[User:Cyan Ryan|Cyan Ryan]]([[User talk:Cyan Ryan|talk]]) 02:43, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:Tested? They're tested now. Used? See what links to the locationcolor templates. They'd be for the route infobox and location infobox revamps. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:53, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

== PokémonInfobox Odex ==

Please fix {{template|PokémonInfobox}}. Ranger 3 has two browsers, one in the present and one in the past. The one in the present follows the standard "R-###" (like R-001 for Pidgey) while the past follows "N-###" (like N-001 for Piplup). There are exceptions though, like some are only available in the past. Deoxys cannot be found in the present, but it's available in the past with the number "X-001" (it's the only one with X-###). Those only available with the missions obtain via Wi-Fi follow "S-###" (like S-001 for Heatran). In short, present: R-### and S-### & past: N-### and X-###. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 02:20, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:...the hell were they thinking. Augh, I'm just gonna make four separate listings. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:25, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
::Just make X-### and S-### like SP in Almia's browser. Only one uses X and six use S. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 02:27, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:::In all honesty, Oblivia should have two cells at least, considering it has two listings which are nothing alike. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:54, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Thanks for the fix, but please fix the past. Deoxys's should only be X-001, not N-X-001. Thanks. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 03:00, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::Head. Hit. Keyboard.
:::::I'm gonna just revamp the entire infobox. Stupid. Ranger. Games. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:43, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

==Sinjoh Return/Ethan==
A couple things...

Regarding your commentary in the video about returning to Sinjoh Ruins, an “ordinary person” actually can get and use imagery from NASA and the Space Telescope Science Institute( Hubble stuff). It’s mostly public domain. Per some U.S. law( possibly something in the constitution?) many/most works of the United States government can’t be copyrighted, and can be used freely, even for commercial applications as long as A) they don’t contain identifiable images of a person or another copyrighted work and B) the usage does not imply the endorsement of the product by any U.S. government agency.

Also, if you have a moment, could you take a look at the [[Talk:Ethan (game)#Info Box Color|talk page]] where we are discussing infobox colors for <strike>Gold</strike>“Ethan”? I think there are several legitimate reasons for leaving them gold, but there are credible( though not terribly compelling) arguments for changing them to soulsilver color, which was done recently. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 02:30, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:Psh. Well considering how they've walked all over it lately, thanks to Disney and some of the other corporate giants, copyright lasts for life + 70 in most instances. So who knows.
:As for Ethan. Yeah no. Don't bother, Gold, Jimmy, and Ethan should keep the same colors. Consistency! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:40, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

== {{u|DoucheyCharizard}} ==

Erm...... should I welcome them or not? I wanna say no, but it's your call. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:54, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:I'd say... tell them to choose a different name, since that's kind of inappropriate. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:47, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

== template:sitegame and Oblivia ==

some pokemon have diffrent Pkmn Assist in past and present says serebii.net : http://www.serebii.net/spindex-dp/468.shtml
so the template need a edit, or is this already in planing? --[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]]
:No. Frigging. Idea. I don't do the side game thing. We'll get to it eventually; stuff changes for the English release, so we'll be better prepared to do so when that arrives, really. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:45, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

== Question ==

How does one create a new account, and how can we disable this function? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:11, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:You just have to make it to that specific special page while logged in. Technically we can't stop you from making a second account (since you could just log out and do so)... but I'll talk to Zhen. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:15, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

== OMG ==

BAWWWWWWWW I ''NEED'' TO EDIT MY USERPAGE WHEN WILL YOU UNLOCK IT?? UNLOCK IT NAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOO ;_________; [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 02:16, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
:THAT ADDS ANOTHER WEEK. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:19, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
::THAT DOES IT I'M PACKING UP MY STUFF AND MOVING TO SEREBII. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 02:22, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
:::FIRE ECHIDNAS BEAT GREEN FOREST FAIRY THINGS EASY! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:34, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

== n00bness ==

How DO we hurt your Pokémon?[[User:Valorum27|Valorum27]] 02:01, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:You just did. You horrible, horrible person. {{tt|8(|by commenting on his talkpage, btw}} [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 02:03, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

== HGSS Eyecatches ==

Hey TTE, I was working on fixing up the new Eyecatches for Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver Version. An example of one is the one on the [[Bell Tower]] page with the two Ho-Oh looking statues that changes as the day progresses as that is how we have it set up. Well, it turns out someone wanted to get a bit clever and give us a different set of Eyecatches for the Dark Cave with one set having a Wobuffet on it for the Blackthorn City Entrance and the other set having a Dunsparce on it for Violet City Entrance. I don't know exactly if you want to incorporate all eight, but I was wondering what you thought. Thanks. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 05:24, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:Ugh that'll be a toughie. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:57, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
::Well here is what I was thinking. We use the Violet entrance as the usual times of 3, 9, 16, and 19 then we use the Blackthorn entrance for the ones in between those two. Let me try it out first and then we can see what you think of it. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 07:06, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Hm. Or we could have them alternate by the day of the year? <code><nowiki>{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: z}} mod 2}}|0=Violet|1=Blackthorn}}</nowiki></code>?
::::I just went with the simple way for now of alternating them throughout the day. We can always edit or fix it as needed but all of the eyecatch pics are uploaded to the archive for now. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 07:32, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::Under old style or the new style I'm developing? Because... blah. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:33, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::Old style, I can always update it to the new style though it shouldn't be all that hard. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 07:36, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Means just a page move. We might redo Archives permissions soon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:39, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
That would be very nice. I have a certain Sprout Tower page that is going to look a bit drab until we get a couple of the images moved to their correct places. -'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 07:42, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

== Colours question ==

Hey TTE, I just have a question reguarding the colours on [[Template:User Original series|this template]] (the pink and green): are there light/dark versions of those colours? I'm making something, and I need light/dark versions of that pink and that green. Thanks [[User:Takharii|'''たかは''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''りい!''']] 00:20, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
:No, there are no official dark or light colors of original series Red and Green colors. Don't make them either. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:28, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
::Oh, okay. Thanks anyway. [[User:Takharii|'''たかは''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''りい!''']] 00:33, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

== Name change possible? ==

I'm not entirely sure, but is it possible that I could get a name change to perhaps 'Rai Marshall'? If not then that is okay too. Thank you kindly. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 06:27, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
:Not right now! No CentralAuth to kill your global account, so I couldn't do it properly. Plus the server's kinda 504ing every time I even try to make an edit, so I doubt a name change would do anything more than bring the whole damn thing down for a week. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:31, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

::Ah, I see. Well makes sense, a name change would do quite a bit to a server, I'd imagine. Well like I said, it's fine either way. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 06:38, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Blazing... echidna... anger... Damn these 503's. Damn them to hell. If Zorua and Zoroark are #503 and #504... my god will I get a sick pleasure out of blasting them to smithereens every time I see them. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:52, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

== Background color! ==

I'm having trouble adding a background to my signature. I want a black background! Here is my signature below whenever someone gets the freetime to help me out. Of course I don't want this to be anyone's top concern since it isn't helpful to anyone or bulbapedia. Signature below↓

[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]]'''7

[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]]'''7

I had a couple of free minutes, so there you go. all you do is add background:black to the span style and you're set. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 21:26, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

== Key items ==

Since many of them are available in multiple generations and we have an entry for them on each one, I was wonndering if it would be possible to include links to the other generation's lists in the template when it applies. Also, should they always redirect to their most recent appearence?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:08, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
:I'm quite eh on that first idea, since the lists link to each other anyway. The second one, however, I agree with fully. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:15, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

== Sorry to bug you but... ==

It seems highly likely that {{u|Rodney}} is {{u|Ash Ketchum Peru}} who was already permanently banned. He was banned for hostile behavior towards other users. Rodney joined shortly after AKP was blocked. Not to mention they are both from Peru. Here are their contributions. They look very similar.
*[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Rodney Rodney]
*[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ash_Ketchum_Peru AKP]

What do you think? Should he be infiblocked? Just asking so I don't get in trouble again. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:34, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
:Peru's not that small. I expect it's just something weird about the fandom... like the English-speaking fandom whines about dub voices and Misty never coming back, the Latin American fandom whines about... every other Spanish-speaking country. Their IPs nor emails match.
::Rodney uses a lot of different addresses though. But alright. I'll give him a chance and change the block. I still believe they're the same person though. Their edits are too similar. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:44, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
:::I agree, he uses a bajillion. Who knows. Latin American Pokémon fans are crazy... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:52, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

== [[Template:Itemlang]] ==

Could you add a Korean section to [[Template:Itemlang]]? It also need an uploaded South Korean flag. I planned to add Korean item names to the [[List of items in other languages]] but I can't do it because of the template (which is protected) In the meantime, could you also move [[Officer]] to '''Policeman''' (unless somebody has already done it). --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 20:40, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
:Both the hangul and roman parameters are defined, at the end. And overall I'm gonna put off moving the cops, since I've got a Trainer class revamp in the works. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:51, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
::Oh. But hope they won't be all crowded into one page (or collection of bigger pages like "Gen I Trainers", "Gen II Trainers" etc. That'd really suck and I'm completely against it. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 11:02, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
:::No, what we'd do is have an infobox for the Trainer class (finally), rearrange the templates, put all battleable Trainers of that class in the various games, and so on. And all of them would be at X (Trainer class). 18:31, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

== Performance suggestion ==

I'm noticing that you're using template substitution for version (Gold/Silver/Crystal/Platinum etc) coloring (eg. [[Template:Platinum color]]). Wouldn't it be significantly less server-intensive to simply replace these with styles described in the wiki's CSS?
:Doubtful. Considering Gold and Silver, along with Red, Green, Blue, and Yellow are already predefined by HTML, not a good idea. The color templates are one-third of color''scheme'' templates, with {{template|red color}} combining with {{template|red color light}} and {{template|red color dark}} to make a Red Version colorscheme. And the server's only strained if we ever decide to edit those templates... which is not often once they're in place. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:09, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

== Michaeldsuarez ==

Hi, I'm the real Michaeldsuarez. [[User:Michaeldsuarez]] is an impostor who's been trolling me. Don't trust him. He impersonated me on YouTube. The troll left comments on [http://www.youtube.com/user/Michaeldsuarez my real YouTube channel] about how he's impersonating me here. I would like the impostor blocked please. Thanks. --[[User:JuniusThaddeus|JuniusThaddeus]] 16:54, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
:Good morning, drama. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:25, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
::I know, and sorry. Can you please just ban [[User:Michaeldsuarez]]? He's just here in order to impersonate me. --[[User:JuniusThaddeus|JuniusThaddeus]] 18:31, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
:::And you're just here to... tell me about it. Much more easily done through email, surely. But considering his only contributions here have been to say "LOL AM GONNA KILL SELF K THX BAI" and "HI RANDOM USERS I AM SUPSENDED ON UTOOBZ"... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:38, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Whatever, and thanks for help. --[[User:JuniusThaddeus|JuniusThaddeus]] 18:44, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

== Idea for new Type Effectiveness Template ==

Hi TTE, hope all is going well. I was thinking about how we could redesign the Type effectiveness template that we have on all of the Pokémon pages to reflect a bit more updated look. When you have a chance could you please look at the [[User_talk:MasterKenobi/Type_Effectiveness|Type Effectiveness template that I came up with]]?

Thanks a bunch. ^^ –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 09:48, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
:That looks awesome, but might be a pain to code. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:55, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks, glad you like it. It is accurate down to the centimeter as I calculated everything out. I just have to get so technical sometimes. I have no idea where to get started in how to code it though, I was thinking maybe a table inside the template, or maybe start somewhere else. Do we have any good coders that are up for a challenge? –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 10:01, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

== Debut Section ==

I have an idea for Pokémon Debut Section of episodes. I think this section is special, and I want to put the overworld sprite of Pokémon near the Pokémon's name. Example:
====TV episode debuts====
* [[File:Ani468OD.png]] {{p|Togekiss}} ({{OP|Dawn|Togekiss}})
--[[User:Caciulacdlac|Caciulacdlac]] 19:47, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
:I have wanted to do that for a while, but I haven't yet come up with a template to do so. We'll do it when we get the chance, though. I've got several other templates in the pipeline right this moment, but I should be able to get to this by June. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:49, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

== How do I... ==
...propose an article for creation? Reason is, we need a page for Aprijuice, but I'm not confident I can write it myself. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 22:56, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
:Just create it. Aprijuice should redirect to Apriblender, though... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:26, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

== Help ==

I cannot edit any pages, please help! It says that it doesn't have logging information!--'''[[User:Branfili|Branfili]] [[User talk:Branfili|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Branfili|My edits]]''' 04:14, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
:You can edit this one. Sounds like you're not emailconfirmed. Do so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:01, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
But I am! I am an user from June 2009! What's the problem?--'''[[User:Branfili|Branfili]] [[User talk:Branfili|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Branfili|My edits]]''' 04:23, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
:Did you change your email recently? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:14, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
No! But I found out that only [[DP117]] makes me problem so can you add in translating Das Super-Nudeltalent!-Super Noodle talent an !. Thanks!--'''[[User:Branfili|Branfili]] [[User talk:Branfili|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Branfili|My edits]]''' 18:40, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
:Done and done. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:32, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

== I'm baaaaacccck ==

Hey! I'm back! yay! [[User:Totojo158|''toto'']][[User talk:Totojo158|Rulz]]''' 22:28, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
==Pokémon: The Abridged Series==
:and I was wondering if I could make a pgae(s) about pokemon the abridged series? ITs realy funny! we could start a whole know project!!!! pleasse!!!??? [[User:Totojo158|''toto'']][[User talk:Totojo158|Rulz]]''' 22:30, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
::No. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:00, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
:::whhy not? you having pokemon shipping!!!!! even betweeb ash abd gary!!!! [[User:Totojo158|''toto'']][[User talk:Totojo158|Rulz]]''' 21:12, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Shipping is notable in the Pokémon fandom so therefore they have their articles. As something like Pokémon Abridged is not notable for Bulbapedia. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 22:43, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

:What the hell is Pokémon Abridged? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 23:49, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

::Any online series calling itself "Pokémon: The Abridged Series" or something similar takes the content of the [[Pokémon anime]], trims the video down, and applies a humorous {{wp|fandub}}. The concept as we know it began with "{{wp|Yu-Gi-Oh}} The Abridged Series" by LittleKuriboh, with a lot of attempts to emulate the concept with different anime series having popped up with varying degrees of success.

::There are way too many "abridged series" based off of Pokémon, it's difficult to follow any particular one, especially since very few have even come to at least 3% of the success of the original Yu-Gi-Oh Abridged (many attempts have even died out after only a few "episodes"). The abridged series one person follows may not be the abridged series another user follows, and still different from the abridged series a third person follows. Because of this, none of them are notable enough for an article, as if Bulbapedia followed one abridged series but someone came here looking for a different abridged series, flame wars could ensue, especially if another person came here looking for a third abridged take. Since there's so many Pokémon abridged series out there, it's best to assume none of them are notable and let the confusion stay on {{wp|Youtube}}. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 00:51, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:::While I agree with the consensus that any individual example is non-notable, would it be feasible to create one article outlining the basic concept? (Essentially expanding Shiningpikablu252's first paragraph above into an article.) I admit that unless one was willing to create an additional list of examples it could get out of hand. However, if there are indeed as many examples of this as Shiningpikablu252 claims then clearly this is an area of the fandom that has been overlooked. That's my 2 cents worth, refunds available.--[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 09:56, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::::so can I make the page? (1 page)[[User:Totojo158|''toto'']][[User talk:Totojo158|Rulz]]''' 21:18, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::You can... try. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:21, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::Done. Pokémon: The Abridged Series‎. Feel free to move it/edit it ruthlessly/delete it. Hope this helped. --[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 08:58, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::And the option they chose was delete. The almighty admins have ruled that it is not notable. Sorry TotoRulz, looks like you can't.--[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 03:41, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

== Double & Walking Sprites? ==

I just realized that for the games that have animated sprites for each Pokemon (not counting Crystal), the animation cycles through two different sprites. However, in the Sprites section for each Pokemon, only one sprite is made available--Emerald's animated sprites shows the second sprite, but only in its animation.

Basically, would it be realistic/possible to have both sprites available on each Pokemon's page? Now I'm sure this idea has been kicked around by you guys by now, and I suspect that it's NOT possible, otherwise you would have done it by now. BUT... if someone made those second sprites available, would you consider adding it to the site?

Also, what are your plans to include the HGSS walking sprites to each Pokemon's sprite section? Are you guys working on adding it, or has that idea been shot down?

Only curious... - [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] 01:24, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:Two things. First off, it's best that you ask {{u|Maverick Nate}} in regards to the Archives, etc. Not saying TTE's not a user to talk to, but Maverick is more suitable for this. Second, in answer to the latter, the "walking sprites" as you call it (we call it overworld sprites), are on a need-basis. If the template needs it, we upload it. {{u|Umeko}} would be appropriate to ask for those sprites, though other users have them as well. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:37, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::Nick, both sprites are available on the Pokémon's pages. We don't do the midframe sprites alone. They're included in the animated ones, which for the most part are pngs and thus unviewable in crappy browsers. CRAPPY BROWSERS INCLUDE STUFF THAT'S NOT MOZILLA OR OPERA. We might redo that stuff, though, and feature gifs of the animation separate when we can think of a good way to revamp the spritebox... but that's for another time. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:08, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Actually, I JUST noticed--on some of the articles, at least--that the stationary, single frame sprites that made up each Pokemon's Gen 4 sprite section have been replaced with animated ones. I was thinking more of, like, had they stayed stationary, having both frames that make up the animation being side-by-side each other. But I guess the animated ones look better.
:::To which, I guess if you'll take suggestions on revamping the sprite box--though I'm sure anything I'll suggest is stuff you've already figured out, so forgive me if I'm just repeating your ideas--but maybe it'd be a cool idea if you had the animated sprite with both singular stationary frames next to them. I mean, I just wanna be able to see that one frame of animation that I can't pause to see, y'know? But like I said, I'm sure you've already figured that out. :) - [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] 03:52, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
::::I've always been eh on the midframe sprites. They're ugly and not meant to be seen... But yeah, we're kinda lacking on ideas right now. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:59, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== My userpage ==

Am I worth enough to have unblocked userpage?--'''[[User:Branfili|Branfili]] [[User talk:Branfili|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Branfili|My edits]]''' 19:06, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah. Remember the rules this time. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:18, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

== Psychos is a red link ==

Just to let you know, your Psychos subpage has been a red link for quite some time. Can you fix it? [[User:Blueapple128|Blueapple128]] 01:23, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:I'll do it eventually. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:38, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

== Echidna-san ==

Outta curiosity are there guidelines for adding an article to Bulbanews? --[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 02:09, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:TTE is the Bulbapedia guy. You can read the Bulbanews guidelines by looking at the manual of style over there, and I'm generally the person to go to for Bulbanews things, seeing as I'm kinda the editor in chief.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 02:17, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

== Plates in HGSS ==

I have been trying to figure this whole Plate thing out. I just received one from the Captain of the S.S. Aqua, and I know you have to have at least all 16 badges to receive a Plate from him. For this first time I got the Flame Plate and was unable to reset for a different one so it is definitely set. Could it be going in some certain order that it is handing them out in, such as by the index number? Thanks. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 02:28, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:I can help. It's in index number order, as I just got the Zap Plate, and previously got the Flame Plate and Splash Plate... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:40, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
::I only know the first couple of index Plate numbers. Do we have a list somewhere or would you mind just telling me what the order is? Thanks. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 04:59, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Duh. [[List of items by index number (Generation IV)]]. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:02, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Thanks TTE, no idea we had that page. We should probably link that along with the other Index number pages to the Index Number article somehow. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 05:54, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

==Usertags==

How do you make a new one? [[User:Totojo158|''toto'']][[User talk:Totojo158|Rulz]]''' 19:46, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:You can either use {{Template|User Template}} or {{template|User Template2}} to your own liking, or if you think others might use it then use them as a base and make one as a subpage in your userspace. (remember that any edits to it count to your daily limit). <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:03, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
::Hey can you look at my userpage and tell me what I'm doing wrong with making the usertag? [[User:Totojo158|''toto'']][[User talk:Totojo158|Rulz]]''' 14:01, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Try this: <nowiki>{{User Template|This user is the leader of the|User:Totojo158/eevee gym|Eevee Gym|133Eevee.png‎|White|Thlon|White|Dark}}</nowiki> <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 18:58, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

== Changing pictures for sections ==

I've sort of been on a replacing pictures spree for articles that need improved pictures. However, now I'm somewhat confused.

Per the note, it says feel free to replace it.

However, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Image_reversion_policy] it says that pictures must be approved by an admin.

Can I just replace the pictures?
:If the note's there, replace it. We'll decide on it after. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:07, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, that really only applies for images that are fine as they are, but you wish to make them ''better'' anyways. If there is a "replace image" template, then you can feel free to replace it '''if''' you follow the comments on each image.(Some templates may say "is a JPG", while others might say "needs to show more of the character") '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 23:18, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

== {{template|MS}} ==

I've noticed that many of the pages that have the Pokémon MiniSprites on them link to the name of the Pokémon, not the Pokémon article. I've made a list of the ones that link to the disambig for Pikachu [[Template talk:MS|here]]. There's rather a lot of them, so should we fix all of the instances on all of the pages that have it wrong, just fix the ones that lead to disambigs, or should we break the ones that are right and then change the template? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:18, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
:Just fix them, put in (Pokémon) to the link thingy. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:27, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
::Urgh, I was hoping you wouldn't say that. Anyway, it's {{tt|done|over 5200 occurences means cramp in Ctrl + V fingers}}. I'll have a look at the Wanted Pages next time it updates to check whether I've made any mistakes. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 10:48, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah. The template used to link to X (Pokémon) with just the species name put in, but then... for some reason we changed it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:20, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

== Userpage policy question ==

Just asking that is it an acceptable exception to the current one-userspace-edit-a-day policy if I make more than one edit (mainly large updates) to [[User:UltimateSephiroth/ForeignPtEntries‎‎]] during a single day? Also, when that page is complete, is it possible that the entries are finally implemented in the species pages? (Incomplete proposed template update [[User:UltimateSephiroth/Dex|here]], example [[User:UltimateSephiroth/Sandbox|here]]) '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 20:08, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
:As long as it's to be mainspaced/templatespaced/bulbaspaced ''eventually'' yeah we do have lenience. If it's a dumb personal project about your team or something, then we get mad and lock your stuff down.
:Though you ''do'' know the foreign dex entries are from LG for DP and from DP for PtHGSS, right? Meaning that all you gotta do to know them all is... go around to the EP wikis.
:And I'm planning to update the dex entry template before BW, once we see beta pages for its Pokédex. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:18, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, I know they are from older games. It's just that someone has to transfer the entries in the first place (which is a somewhat tedious process). And, as of now, there is no Italian wiki in the EP chain (though I believe there was an aspiring individual one somewhere). As for the template, it might indeed be easier to make the required changes all at once than in several small edits. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 20:24, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Exactly... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:06, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
::::As for the Italian aspirer, [http://www.pokemoncentral.it/wiki/Pagina_principale they're still around and still aspiring]. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:21, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::And we're still busy... I gotta get in contact with the rest of EP. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:59, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== I think I'm gonna die!! ==

Say TTE, do we have any idea where all these internal stuffups came from, and when they're gonna be fixed. It keeps logging me out =( [[User:Takharii|<sc>Takharii</sc>]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|<sc>Talk!</sc>]] 00:41, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
:They're getting better. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:31, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
::One more thing: I'd like to trial to become a Junior Admin, and you know that I need (is it?) 500 edits in the mainspace. Do these edits I'm making to the top of the Pokémon pages now count? [[User:Takharii|<sc>Takharii</sc>]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|<sc>Talk!</sc>]] 05:57, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah. Apply on the forums. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:07, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, do they need to be 190px? (You made {{p|Medicham}} blurry!) [[User:Takharii|<sc>Takharii</sc>]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|<sc>Talk!</sc>]] 07:31, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::They should be reasonably larger. Medicham's art will be replaced by a higher-res version soon enough, so I don't wanna forget it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:52, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::Sorry to bug you '''again''', but when do the admin aplications have to be in by? [[User:Takharii|<sc>Takharii</sc>]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|<sc>Talk!</sc>]] 08:16, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::And also, some of the Pokémon don't work with the parameter (eg {{p|Farfetch'd}} and {{p|Nidoran♀}}/{{p|Nidoran♂}}), because their names are spelt differently in their artowork (due to character restrictions). [[User:Takharii|<sc>Takharii</sc>]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|<sc>Talk!</sc>]] 08:39, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Apps due ASAP, by Friday we wish. And for those Pokémon, like the formes, just ignore it... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:01, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== Help,userpage ==

Can you help me about userpage? How you make text and userbox going next to each other and how you make chapters don't show itself until you press [show]?--'''[[User:Branfili|Branfili]] [[User talk:Branfili|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Branfili|My edits]]''' 03:26, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
:You could just view the source of my own. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:43, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
But I don't understand the coding!--'''[[User:Branfili|Branfili]] [[User talk:Branfili|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Branfili|My edits]]''' 03:57, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
:Neither did I at first. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:12, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

== Sorry to bug you again.... ==

...but {{p|Hoothoot}}'s artwork - it said that it was released with {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}, but i thought that it was released with {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}} (being a Johto Pokémon). Should I change the parameter to <code> art=HGSS </code> or <code> art=FRLG </code>
:Some Johto Pokémon had art released with FR/LG. Most of those Pokémon then didn't get HGSS art. {{p|Houndour}} is another example. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 07:35, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
::Tsk. those could be an issue. This will remain a reminder for September... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:12, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah, {{p|Cleffa}} and {{p|Igglybuff}} are the same. Really low resolution. I made them bigger though, so they're blurry. is that okay? [[User:Takharii|<sc>Takharii</sc>]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|<sc>Talk!</sc>]] 09:49, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Considering {{u|Immewnity}} is supposed to be going around getting us high-res images... yeah. Bug him, plz. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:19, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

== Help, I can't edit my userpage ==

Hey TTE, erm. I can't edit my User page, I just joined and it's got a red Hyperlink. When I click edit it says "Editing is not permitted in the User section" I'm confused. Oh joy, I'll attempt to write a thingy, signature thing and date it. it'll probably go horribly wrong knowing my luck... here goes... '''[[User:Jimmyduckegg]]''' 20:27, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
:Not sure about the userpage thing, but for signing just press the signature button at the top of the editbox. Or you can type four "~" (top left of keyboard). What you shouldn't do is type it in manually. The tildes will give you both the correct link and the correct time.--[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 20:43, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
::New users cannot create pages, but they can edit already-made pages. This is to prevent vandal jerkfaces from making a page named POKEMON SUCKS AND IS GAY, as well as to prevent abuse of the userspace by brand-new users so we don't have to warn them all the damn time. So many people get put into abuse after editing only their userpage and never return, after whining to the admins "WAH YOU UNFAIRS". So we're just... preventing it. Once you become more established, then you'll be able to create your page. So go edit the mainspace, stick around for a while, and tah-dah, you'll be able to create your userpage. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:17, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

== I'm confused.... ==

You protected {{u|Chuggaaconroy}}'s userpage from being created and his talk page from being edited. And yet I don't see that he/she did anything wrong. It's none of my business, of course, I just thought it seemed unusual. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 01:40, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
:We're testing out the new usergroups. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:15, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

== Testing, testing... ==

Is this thing on? --[[User:Politoed666|''P'' 02:08, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
:No, Poli, it still doesn't work. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:17, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Poké Ball

2010-04-22T08:49:51Z

Bilge: /* Types of Poké Ball */ Love ball

{{Featured}}
[[Image:Allballs.png|thumb|250px|right|The 25 Poké Ball variants found in the [[Version|main series]]]]
A '''Poké Ball''' (Japanese: '''モンスターボール''' ''Monster Ball'') is a type of [[item]] that is critical to a {{pkmn|Trainer}}'s quest, used for {{pkmn2|caught|catching}} and storing {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}. Both a general term used to describe the various kinds as well as a specific term to refer to the most basic among these variations, Poké Balls are ubiquitous in the modern Pokémon world. Up to six Pokémon can be carried with a Trainer in Poké Balls, while any number of other Poké Balls can be held in the [[bag]] for later use.

The strength of a Poké Ball is determined by how much it raises a [[wild Pokémon]]'s [[catch rate]], and may in fact vary depending on the conditions of the battle. Poké Balls limit the power of Pokémon contained inside, taming them, though they do not cause the Pokémon inside to always obey the Trainer.

The invention of Poké Balls apparently occurred in the [[Johto]] region, where [[Apricorn]]s grow; these fruit were cut apart and carved out, then fitted with a special device, and used to catch wild Pokémon prior to the mass production of the Balls that occurs in modern times under [[Silph Co.]] and the [[Devon Corporation]]. Some Trainers still use Poké Balls made from Apricorns, while [[Kurt]], a resident of [[Azalea Town]], still constructs them.

Prior to the invention of Poké Balls, Pokémon were referred to as "magical beasts" (Japanese: '''魔獣''' ''majū''), indicating that the name Pokémon, short for Pocket Monster, did not come into common parlance as a term until these devices allowed the various Pokémon to be stored in pockets easily.

Stylized Poké Balls are used in many places to symbolize Pokémon in general: the logos of both [[Battle Frontier]]s feature a Poké Ball in their design, while several Poké Balls can be seen in every Pokémon Center. The headgear of the protagonists of [[Hoenn]], [[Kanto]], and [[Sinnoh]]-based games feature Poké Ball designs, as do the [[bag]]s of the protagonists of [[Johto]]-based games. The headgear of [[Ethan (game)|Ethan]] is also similar to the top half of an Ultra Ball, and the bag of [[Lucas (game)|Lucas]] prominently features a Poké Ball.

==Mechanics==
[[File:Pokeballinterior.jpg|frame|right|Interior of a Poké Ball from the anime]]
Though the technology behind a Poké Ball remains unknown, the basic mechanics are simple enough to understand: in a [[Pokémon battle]], once an opposing wild Pokémon has been weakened, a person, the Pokémon Trainer, can throw a Poké Ball at it. If the Poké Ball hits the Pokémon and is not knocked back by it, the Poké Ball will open, convert the Pokémon to a form of energy, and pull it into its center, closing. A Pokémon in this state is given a chance to struggle to attempt to escape, at which point the ball will either be destroyed (in the games and some manga) or will return to the Trainer (anime), who can attempt once again to capture the Pokémon. A Pokémon who does not escape the ball will be {{pkmn2|caught}}.

As seen in several anime episodes, such as ''[[AG065|Gulpin it Down!]]'' and ''[[AG104|Claydol Big and Tall]]'', normal Poké Balls have difficulty catching Pokémon which are extremely large or extremely heavy. In the latter episode, it is revealed that ancient civilizations overcame this issue by constructing immense Poké Balls made out of stone. However, due to the difficulty of manipulating one of these large objects, later technology and the development of Heavy Balls provided a better alternative.

When a Pokémon is released from a Poké Ball, it will be accompanied by a bright light as it returns from its energy form, and materialize nearby, often on the ground. This bright light has been shown to vary depending on the type of Ball that the Pokémon is contained in in the games, while it has always been shown to be white in the anime. Recalling a Pokémon to its Poké Ball is also relatively simple, as all a person must do is hold up the Poké Ball with its button pointed at the Pokémon. A beam of red light will shoot from the button, converting the Pokémon back into energy and returning it to the Ball. The beam, however, has a limited range, and can be dodged by the Pokémon. If the beam hits a person, they will be stunned for a moment, but aside from that no ill effects will make themselves apparent. Releasing Pokémon from a Trainer's ownership, unlike normally sending the Pokémon out, will bathe the Pokémon in a blue glow, and the Poké Ball will no longer mark it, making it able to be caught by another Trainer's Poké Ball. A Poké Ball can also be broken, which will release it from ownership, and if a Trainer has done so accidentally, it must somehow be fixed before the Pokémon can be recalled.

Several Pokémon have shown the ability to leave and return to their Poké Balls at will, most notably among them [[Jessie's Wobbuffet]], [[Misty's Psyduck]], and [[Brock's Croagunk]], which tend to do so in every episode they appear. In ''[[EP031|Dig Those Diglett!]]'', many Pokémon belonging to [[Gary Oak]], as well as other Trainers, including Ash Ketchum, demonstrated the ability to prevent themselves from being sent from their Poké Balls, as they refused to fight against the Diglett, though this has not been demonstrated since.
[[Image:Chimchar release.jpg|200px|[[Paul]] releasing {{AP|Chimchar|Infernape}}|thumb]]
Poké Balls are not always at full size. Pressing the button on the front will convert it between its full size, about the size of a {{wp|Baseball (object)|baseball}}, to a smaller size, about that of a {{wp|Table tennis#The ball|ping-pong ball}}, and back again. The larger size makes throwing the ball easier, while the smaller one makes for easier storage on a belt clip, in pockets, and in bags.

Poké Balls are able to communicate with a Trainer's [[Pokédex]], as the system updates itself with information on newly-caught Pokémon, and keeps track of how many Pokémon the Trainer has with them. If a Trainer catches a new Pokémon with the full six already with them, the Pokédex will automatically send the newly-caught Pokémon in its Poké Ball to the [[Pokémon storage system]] that the Trainer is using. As shown in ''[[DP002|Two Degrees of Separation]]'', a Pokémon caught by a Poké Ball is "marked" by it, and thus a Poké Ball thrown at it will have no effect aside from temporarily stunning it. In the games, as well as in ''[[EP073|Bad to the Bone]]'', however, the Trainer of the Pokémon will block a Poké Ball thrown by another, though it is possible that this is more out of courtesy to their Pokémon than to prevent capture outright.

Poké Balls are able to be decorated to no ill effect, with several Poké Balls that have been painted with special colors being seen in the anime. To alter the way in which the Pokémon is sent out, however, a [[Ball Capsule]] and [[seal]]s must be used, which can release special effects when the Pokémon is sent out.
[[Image:RealeasingPokemon.png|thumb|200px|Sending out a Pokémon in {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}]]
When a Pokémon is released from its ball, it usually has a burst of light come out with it, which varies depending on the Ball the Pokémon is contained in (normally a white light in the anime).

==Poké Ball accuracy==
Except for Master Balls, all Poké Balls have a chance of breaking and not capturing the Pokémon in question, however, in several cases, it is possible for the Poké Ball to miss the wild Pokémon completely.

*In [[Generation I]] games, there was always a possibility that the Poké Ball would miss a Pokémon, usually occurring when battling in the [[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]], or while battling a wild {{p|Chansey}}, {{p|Snorlax}}, or [[legendary Pokémon]]. Rather than the ball throwing animation playing, a message would come up stating "You missed the Pokémon!".
*In Generation I as well as in {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, the [[literal ghost|ghosts]] in [[Lavender Town]]'s [[Pokémon Tower]] would dodge any ball thrown at them unless they were unmasked by the [[Silph Scope]]. The [[Marowak (literal ghost)|Marowak ghost]] will dodge even if it is unmasked.
*A Poké Ball cannot be thrown during a wild [[double battle]] when the player is partnered up with one of the [[stat Trainers]], unless one of the two wild Pokémon is defeated, with the game claiming "It's no good! It's impossible to aim when there are two Pokémon!". This is odd, of course, as a player can snag Pokémon in {{g|Colosseum}} and {{g|XD: Gale of Darkness}} even if there are two on the opposing side of the field.
*In {{g|Platinum}}, it isn't possible to use a Poké Ball on a Pokémon which is in the invulnerable stage of moves such as {{m|Dig}} or {{m|Shadow Force}} .

==Types of Poké Ball==
[[File:PBR_Battle_Start.jpg|thumb|right|A double battle begins in [[Pokémon Battle Revolution]]; each of the four Pokémon being sent out has been caught in a different type of Poké Ball.]]
In the Pokémon games so far, there have been 25 different varieties of Poké Ball, all differing from each other in some effect, whether it be an increased ability to catch a Pokémon from the wild or an effect which occurs only after the Pokémon has been caught. From Generation III onward, each variety of Poké Ball has a unique animation when they open to draw in a Pokémon and when a Pokémon is sent out. So far, the only games in which all 25 are available are {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}.

===Introduced in Generation I===
The following Poké Balls were introduced in {{game|Red and Green|s}}, and have appeared and been available in ''all'' games since then, with the exception of the Safari Ball, which is not present in {{game2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}. They were developed by [[Silph Co.]], with the development of the Master Ball factoring into the plot of the Generation I games and their remakes heavily.

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}}
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|catchrate=1.5×
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|descrse=A good ball with a higher catch rate than a Poké Ball.
|descfrlg=A good, quality Ball that offers a higher Pokémon catch rate than a standard Poké Ball.
|descdppthgss=A good, high-performance Ball that provides a higher Pokémon catch rate than a standard Poké Ball.
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|locdppt=Most [[Poké Mart]]s
|lochgss=Most [[Poké Mart]]s

'''Pokéwalker:''' [[Town Outskirts]] ''(750+ Steps)''
|tcg=Great Ball (EX FireRed & LeafGreen 92)
}}
{{Item
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|sell=600
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|catchrate=2×
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|locrse=Several [[Poké Mart]]s
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|locxd=[[Outskirt Stand]]
|locdppt=Most [[Poké Mart]]s
|lochgss=Most [[Poké Mart]]s

'''Pokéwalker:''' [[Town Outskirts]] ''(2000+ Steps)''
}}
{{Item
|name=Master Ball
|jp=マスターボール
|jpt=Master Ball
|gen=I
|bag=Poké Balls
|effect=Allows the {{player}} to catch any encountered [[wild Pokémon]] without fail.
|catchrate=255×
|descgsc=The best Ball. It never misses.
|descrse=The best ball that catches a Pokémon without fail.
|descfrlg=The best Ball with the ultimate performance. It will catch any wild Pokémon without fail.
|descdppthgss=The best Ball with the ultimate level of performance. It will catch any wild Pokémon without fail.
|locrby=[[Silph Co.]]
|locgsc=[[New Bark Town]], [[Goldenrod Radio Tower]]
|locrse=[[Aqua Hideout|Magma/Aqua Hideout]], [[Lilycove Department Store]]
|locfrlg=[[Silph Co.]]
|loccolo=[[Agate Village]]
|locxd=[[Pokémon HQ Lab]]
|locdppt=[[Team Galactic HQ]], [[Jubilife TV]]
|lochgss=[[New Bark Town]], [[Goldenrod Radio Tower]]
|tcg=Master Ball (Gym Challenge 116)
|notes=This Ball can be won in several locations by matching an ID number exactly.
}}
{{Item
|name=Safari Ball
|jp=サファリボール
|jpt=Safari Ball
|gen=I
|bag=Poké Balls
|effect=Allows the {{player}} to catch [[wild Pokémon]] in the [[Safari Zone]].
|catchrate=1.5×
|descrse=A special ball that is used only in the Safari Zone.
|descfrlg=A special ball that is used only in the Safari Zone. It is finished with a camouflage pattern.
|descdppthgss=A special Poké Ball that is used only in the Great Marsh. It is decorated in a camouflage pattern.
|locrby=[[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]]
|locrse=[[Hoenn Safari Zone|Safari Zone]]
|locfrlg=[[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]]
|locdppt=[[Great Marsh]]
|lochgss=[[Johto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]]
}}

===Introduced in Generation II===
The following Poké Balls were introduced in {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}. These Poké Balls were not available in [[Generation III]] or in {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}, but made their return in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}. A majority of them are made from [[Apricorn]]s by [[Kurt]], while the only one that is not is seen by some to be a counterpart to the Safari Ball in that it is only used in the [[Bug-Catching Contest]] in [[National Park]]. Interestingly, all eight of these Poké Balls have the same animation as a normal Poké Ball when sending out or recalling a Pokémon. However, when viewed on another Generation IV game in which these balls do not exist they will be shown as a regular Poké Ball, and will remain in that appearance when traded to those versions until the Pokémon is transferred back to HeartGold or SoulSilver, at which point they return to their previous form.

{{Item
|name=Level Ball
|jp=レベルボール
|jpt=Level Ball
|gen=II
|bag=Poké Balls
|sell=150
|effect=Allows the {{player}} to catch [[wild Pokémon]]; works better on Pokémon of levels lower than the Pokémon currently in battle.
|catchrate=1× if the player's Pokémon is the same level as or a lower level than the wild Pokémon 2× if the player's Pokémon is at a higher level than the wild Pokémon but less than double it 4× if the player's Pokémon is more than double but less than four times the level of the wild Pokémon 8× if the player's Pokémon is of a level four times or more than that of the wild Pokémon
|descgsc=A Ball for lower-level Pokémon.
|deschgss=A Poké Ball for catching Pokémon that are a lower level than your own.
|locgsc=[[Azalea Town]] ([[Red Apricorn]])
|lochgss=[[Azalea Town]] ([[Red Apricorn]])
}}

{{Item
|name=Lure Ball
|jp=ルアーボール
|jpt=Lure Ball
|gen=II
|bag=Poké Balls
|sell=150
|effect=Allows the {{player}} to catch [[wild Pokémon]]; works better on Pokémon hooked by a [[rod]].
|catchrate=3× if used on a Pokémon hooked by a rod 1× otherwise
|descgsc=A Ball for Pokémon hooked by a rod.
|deschgss=A Poké Ball for catching Pokémon hooked by a Rod when fishing.
|locgsc=[[Kurt]] after saving [[Slowpoke Well]], [[Azalea Town]] ([[Blu Apricorn]])
|lochgss={{tc|Fisherman}} in {{rt|32}} [[Pokémon Center]] (×2), [[Azalea Town]] ([[Blu Apricorn]])
|tcg=Lure Ball (Skyridge 128)
}}

{{Item
|name=Moon Ball
|jp=ムーンボール
|jpt=Moon Ball
|gen=II
|bag=Poké Balls
|sell=150
|effect=Allows the {{player}} to catch [[wild Pokémon]]; works better on Pokémon that evolve when exposed to radiation from a [[Moon Stone]].
|catchrate=4× if used on a Pokémon belonging to the {{p|Nidoran♂}}, {{p|Nidoran♀}}, {{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Jigglypuff}} or {{p|Skitty}} families 1× otherwise
|descgsc=A Ball for Moon Stone evolvers.
|deschgss=A Poké Ball for catching Pokémon that evolve using the Moon Stone.
|locgsc=[[Azalea Town]] ([[Ylw Apricorn]])
|lochgss=[[Azalea Town]] ([[Ylw Apricorn]])
}}

{{Item
|name=Friend Ball
|jp=フレンドボール
|jpt=Friend Ball
|gen=II
|bag=Poké Balls
|sell=150
|effect=Allows the {{player}} to catch [[wild Pokémon]]; makes a Pokémon [[happiness|more friendly]] when caught.
|effect2=Sets caught Pokémon's happiness to 200.
|catchrate=1×
|descgsc=A Ball that makes Pokémon friendly.
|deschgss=A Poké Ball that makes caught Pokémon more friendly.
|locgsc=[[Azalea Town]] ([[Grn Apricorn]])
|lochgss=[[Azalea Town]] ([[Grn Apricorn]])
|tcg=Friend Ball (Skyridge 126)
}}

{{Item
|name=Love Ball
|jp=ラブラブボール
|jpt=Love Love Ball
|gen=II
|bag=Poké Balls
|sell=150
|effect=Allows the {{player}} to catch [[wild Pokémon]]; works better on Pokémon of the opposite [[gender]].
|catchrate=8× if used on a Pokémon of the same [[species]] as, but opposite gender of, the player's Pokémon 1× otherwise
|descgsc=For catching the opposite gender.
|deschgss=Poké Ball for catching Pokémon that are the opposite gender of your Pokémon.
|locgsc=[[Azalea Town]] ([[Pnk Apricorn]])
|lochgss=[[Azalea Town]] ([[Pnk Apricorn]])
}}

{{Item
|name=Heavy Ball
|jp=ヘビーボール
|jpt=Heavy Ball
|gen=II
|bag=Poké Balls
|sell=150
|effect=Allows the {{player}} to catch [[wild Pokémon]]; works better on [[List of Pokémon by weight|heavier Pokémon]].
|catchrate=-20 if used on Pokémon weighing less than {{tt|451.5 lbs|204.8 kg}} +20 if used on Pokémon weighing between {{tt|451.5 lbs|204.8 kg}} and {{tt|677.3 lbs|307.2 kg}} +30 if used on Pokémon weighing between {{tt|677.3 lbs|307.2 kg}} and {{tt|903.0 lbs|409.6 kg}} +40 if used on Pokémon weighing more than {{tt|903.0 lbs|409.6 kg}}
|descgsc=A Ball for catching heavy Pokémon.
|deschgss=A Poké Ball for catching very heavy Pokémon.
|locgsc=[[Azalea Town]] ([[Blk Apricorn]])
|lochgss=[[Azalea Town]] ([[Blk Apricorn]])
}}

{{Item
|name=Fast Ball
|jp=スピードボール
|jpt=Speed Ball
|gen=II
|bag=Poké Balls
|sell=150
|effect=Allows the {{player}} to catch [[wild Pokémon]]; works better on fast Pokémon (Generation IV) or Pokémon likely to flee from battle (Generation II).
|catchrate=4× if used on a Pokémon that [[roaming Pokémon|flees from battle]] in {{3v2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}} 4× if used on a Pokémon with a base {{stat|Speed}} of at least 100 in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}} 1× otherwise
|descgsc=A Ball for catching fast Pokémon.
|deschgss=A Poké Ball that makes it easier to catch fast Pokémon.
|locgsc=[[Azalea Town]] ([[Wht Apricorn]])
|lochgss=[[Kurt]] after saving [[Slowpoke Well]], [[Azalea Town]] ([[Wht Apricorn]])
|tcg=Fast Ball (Skyridge 124)
}}

{{Item
|name=Sport Ball
|jp=コンペボール
|jpt=Compé Ball
|gen=II
|bag=Poké Balls
|effect=Allows the {{player}} to catch [[wild Pokémon]] in the [[Bug-Catching Contest]].
|catchrate=1.5×
|descgsc=The Bug-Catching Contest Ball.
|deschgss=A special Poké Ball for the Bug-Catching Contest.
|locgsc=[[National Park]]
|lochgss=[[National Park]]
|notes=Known as the Park Ball (パークボール) during Generation II.
}}

===Introduced in Generation III===
The following Poké Balls were introduced in {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}. While the main four Poké Balls and the Safari Ball returned to central usage, these specialty Balls were only available at certain [[Poké Mart]]s in the Hoenn, Sinnoh, and Johto regions, and only a few of them could be bought in {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}} after the National Pokédex had been obtained. The Dive Ball is not available for purchase in Sinnoh, while both it and the Timer, Repeat and Luxury Balls are not available for purchase in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, though all can be transferred from a game in which they can be bought by being held by a Pokémon. This is probably because there are substitute balls for both Luxury and Dive Balls. Unlike the Poké Balls introduced in Generation I, these Poké Balls were developed by the [[Devon Corporation]].

{{Item
|name=Premier Ball
|jp=プレミアボール
|jpt=Premier Ball
|gen=III
|bag=Poké Balls
|sell=100
|effect=Allows the {{player}} to catch [[wild Pokémon]].
|catchrate=1×
|descrse=A rare ball made in commemoration of some event.
|descfrlg=A rare Ball that has been specially made to commemorate an event of some sort.
|descdppthgss=A somewhat rare Poké Ball that has been specially made to commemorate an event of some sort.
|locrse=Any [[Poké Mart]] (buy 10 or more Poké Balls at once)
|locdppt=Any [[Poké Mart]] (buy 10 or more Poké Balls at once), [[Pokémon News Press]]
|lochgss=Any [[Poké Mart]] (buy 10 or more Poké Balls at once)
|tcg=Premier Ball (Great Encounters 101)
}}

{{Item
|name=Repeat Ball
|jp=リピートボール
|jpt=Repeat Ball
|gen=III
|bag=Poké Balls
|buyable=yes
|sell=500
|effect=Allows the {{player}} to catch [[wild Pokémon]]; works better on Pokémon whose species have already been caught.
|catchrate=3× if used on a Pokémon that has been caught before 1× otherwise
|descrse=A ball that works better on Pokémon caught before.
|descfrlg=A somewhat different Ball that works especially well on Pokémon caught before.
|descdppthgss=A somewhat different Poké Ball that works especially well on Pokémon species that were previously caught.
|locrse=[[Rustboro City]] [[Poké Mart]]
|locfrlg={{OBP|Two Island|town}} vendor
|locdppt=[[Canalave City]] [[Poké Mart]], {{si|Pokémon League}} [[Poké Mart]], [[Pokémon News Press]]
|lochgss='''Johto:''' [[Goldenrod Department Store]] lottery{{dotw|Tu}}

'''Pokéwalker:''' [[Sinnoh Field]] ''(3000+ Steps)''
}}

{{Item
|name=Timer Ball
|jp=タイマーボール
|jpt=Timer Ball
|gen=III
|bag=Poké Balls
|buyable=yes
|sell=500
|effect=Allows the {{player}} to catch [[wild Pokémon]]; works better in battles that have lasted longer.
|catchrate=1× if used before 10 turns have passed 2× if used when between 10 and 20 turns have passed 3× if used when between 20 and 30 turns have passed 4× if used after 30 or more turns have passed
|descrse=More effective as more turns are taken in battle.
|descfrlg=A somewhat different Ball that becomes progressively better the more turns there are in a battle.
|descdppthgss=A somewhat different Ball that becomes progressively better the more turns there are in a battle.
|locrse=[[Rustboro City]] [[Poké Mart]]
|locfrlg={{OBP|Two Island|town}} vendor
|locdppt=[[Celestic Town]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Canalave City]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Snowpoint City]] [[Poké Mart]], {{si|Pokémon League}} [[Poké Mart]], [[Pokémon News Press]]
|lochgss='''Johto:''' [[Goldenrod Department Store]] lottery{{dotw|Sa}}

'''Pokéwalker:''' [[Sinnoh Field]] ''(2500+ Steps)''
}}

{{Item
|name=Nest Ball
|jp=ネストボール
|jpt=Nest Ball
|gen=III
|bag=Poké Balls
|buyable=yes
|sell=500
|effect=Allows the {{player}} to catch [[wild Pokémon]]; works better on lower-[[level]] Pokémon.
|catchrate=3× if used on a Pokémon below level 19 2× if used used on a Pokémon between level 20 and level 29 1× otherwise
|descrse=A ball that works better on weaker Pokémon.
|descfrlg=A somewhat different Ball that works especially well on weaker Pokémon.
|descdppthgss=A somewhat different Poké Ball that works especially well on weaker Pokémon in the wild.
|locrse=[[Verdanturf Town]] [[Poké Mart]]
|locdppt=[[Eterna City]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Hearthome City]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Pastoria City]] [[Poké Mart]], {{si|Pokémon League}} [[Poké Mart]], [[Pokémon News Press]]
|lochgss='''Johto:''' [[Goldenrod Department Store]] lottery{{dotw|Mo}}
'''Kanto:''' [[Pewter City]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Vermilion City]] [[Poké Mart]]

'''Pokéwalker:''' [[Sinnoh Field]] ''(500+ Steps)''
}}

{{Item
|name=Net Ball
|jp=ネットボール
|jpt=Net Ball
|gen=III
|bag=Poké Balls
|buyable=yes
|sell=500
|effect=Allows the {{player}} to catch [[wild Pokémon]]; works better on {{t|Water}}- and {{type2|Bug}} Pokémon.
|catchrate=3× if used on a Water-type or Bug-type Pokémon 1× otherwise
|descrse=A ball that works well on Water- and Bug-type Pokémon.
|descfrlg=A somewhat different Ball that works especially well on Water- and Bug-type Pokémon.
|descdppthgss=A somewhat different Poké Ball that works especially well on Water- and Bug-type Pokémon.
|locrse=[[Mossdeep City]] [[Poké Mart]]
|locfrlg=[[Fishing_Brothers#Silence_Bridge_Fishing_Guru|Silence Bridge]] on [[Route 12#Silence Bridge|Route 12]]
|locdppt=[[Eterna City]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Hearthome City]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Solaceon Town]] [[Poké Mart]], {{si|Pokémon League}} [[Poké Mart]], [[Pokémon News Press]]
|lochgss='''Johto:''' [[Goldenrod Department Store]] lottery{{dotw|We}}, [[Blackthorn City]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Frontier Access]] [[Poké Mart]]
'''Kanto:''' [[Viridian City]] [[Poké Mart]]

'''Pokéwalker:''' [[Noisy Forest]] ''(5000+ Steps)'', [[Blue Lake]] ''(4000+ Steps)''
}}

{{Item
|name=Dive Ball
|jp=ダイブボール
|jpt=Dive Ball
|gen=III
|bag=Poké Balls
|buyable=yes
|sell=500
|effect=Allows the {{player}} to catch [[wild Pokémon]]; works better on Pokémon encountered [[underwater]]{{tt|*|RSE only}}/while {{m|Surf}}ing and [[fishing]]{{tt|*|other games}}.
|catchrate=3.5× if used on a water-dwelling Pokémon 1× otherwise
|descrse=A ball that works better on Pokémon on the ocean floor.
|descfrlg=A somewhat different Ball that works especially well on Pokémon deep in the sea.
|descdppthgss=A somewhat different Poké Ball that works especially well on Pokémon that live in the sea.
|locrse=[[Mossdeep City]] [[Poké Mart]]
|locdppt=[[Pokémon News Press]]
|lochgss='''Pokéwalker:''' [[Beautiful Beach]] ''(5000+ Steps)'', [[Blue Lake]] ''(3500+ Steps)''
}}

{{Item
|name=Luxury Ball
|jp=ゴージャスボール
|jpt=Gorgeous Ball
|gen=III
|bag=Poké Balls
|buyable=yes
|sell=500
|effect=Allows the {{player}} to catch [[wild Pokémon]]; makes a Pokémon [[happiness|more friendly]] when caught.
|effect2=Alters the amount by which a caught Pokémon's happiness rises.
|catchrate=1×
|descrse=A cozy ball that makes Pokémon more friendly.
|descfrlg=A comfortable Ball that makes a captured wild Pokémon quickly grow friendly.
|descdppthgss=A comfortable Poké Ball that makes a caught wild Pokémon quickly grow friendly.
|locrse=[[Abandoned Ship]], {{ci|Lilycove}} [[Contest Hall]]
|locfrlg=[[Resort Gorgeous]]
|locdppt=[[Sunyshore City]] [[Poké Mart]], {{si|Pokémon League}} [[Poké Mart]], [[Pokémon News Press]]
|lochgss='''Johto:''' [[Goldenrod Department Store]] lottery{{dotw|Su}}

'''Pokéwalker:''' [[Resort]] ''(6000+ Steps)''
|tcg=Luxury Ball (Stormfront 86)
}}

===Introduced in Generation IV===
The following Poké Balls were introduced in {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}. The set of seven introduced in Generation III, as well as the original set of five, are preserved in this generation, and are available either for purchase or by trade in all Generation IV games. The Generation II Poké Balls also make a return in this generation, but only in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}.

{{Item
|name=Heal Ball
|jp=ヒールボール
|jpt=Heal Ball
|gen=IV
|bag=Poké Balls
|buyable=yes
|sell=150
|effect=Allows the {{player}} to catch [[wild Pokémon]].
|effect2=Fully restores a caught Pokémon's HP, PP, and status.
|catchrate=1×
|descdppthgss=A remedial Poké Ball that restores the caught Pokémon's HP and eliminates any status problem.
|locdppt=[[Jubilife City]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Oreburgh City]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Floaroma Town]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Eterna City]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Hearthome City]] [[Poké Mart]], {{si|Pokémon League}} [[Poké Mart]], [[Pokémon News Press]]
|lochgss='''Johto:''' [[Cherrygrove City]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Violet City]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Azalea Town]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Ecruteak City]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Olivine City]] [[Poké Mart]].
'''Kanto:''' [[Viridian City]] [[Poké Mart]]

'''Pokéwalker:''' [[Stormy Beach]] ''(2000+ Steps)''
}}

{{Item
|name=Quick Ball
|jp=クイックボール
|jpt=Quick Ball
|gen=IV
|bag=Poké Balls
|buyable=yes
|sell=500
|effect=Allows the {{player}} to catch [[wild Pokémon]]; works better when used early in the battle.
|catchrate=4× if used on the first turn of a battle 1× otherwise
|descdppthgss=A somewhat different Poké Ball that provides a better catch rate if it is used at the start of a wild encounter.
|locdppt=[[Pastoria City]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Canalave City]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Snowpoint City]] [[Poké Mart]], {{si|Pokémon League}} [[Poké Mart]], [[Pokémon News Press]]
|lochgss='''Johto:''' [[Goldenrod Department Store]] lottery{{dotw|Th}}, [[Johto Safari Zone|Safari Zone Gate]] (Woman with [[Butterfree]])
'''Kanto:''' [[Pewter City]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Cerulean City]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Vermilion City]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Saffron City]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Lavender Town]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Fuchsia City]] [[Poké Mart]]

'''Pokéwalker:''' [[Stormy Beach]] ''(1500+ Steps)''
|tcg=Quick Ball (Mysterious Treasures 114)
}}

{{Item
|name=Dusk Ball
|jp=ダークボール
|jpt=Dark Ball
|gen=IV
|bag=Poké Balls
|buyable=yes
|sell=500
|effect=Allows the {{player}} to catch [[wild Pokémon]]; works better when used in caves or at night.
|catchrate=3.5× if used in a cave or at night 1× otherwise
|descdppthgss=A somewhat different Poké Ball that makes it easier to catch wild Pokémon at night or in dark places like caves.
|locdppt=[[Solaceon Town]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Snowpoint City]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Pastoria City]] [[Poké Mart]], {{si|Pokémon League}} [[Poké Mart]], [[Pokémon News Press]]
|lochgss='''Johto:''' [[Goldenrod Department Store]] lottery{{dotw|Fr}}, [[Johto Safari Zone|Safari Zone Gate]] (Woman with [[Butterfree]]), [[Blackthorn City]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Frontier Access]] [[Poké Mart]]
'''Kanto:''' [[Vermilion City]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Lavender Town]] [[Poké Mart]], [[Fuchsia City]] [[Poké Mart]]

'''Pokéwalker:''' [[Scary Cave]] ''(4000+ Steps)'', [[Quiet Cave]] ''(2000+ Steps)''
|tcg=Dusk Ball (Mysterious Treasures 110)
}}

{{Item
|name=Cherish Ball
|jp=プレジャスボール
|jpt=Precious Ball
|gen=IV
|bag=Poké Balls
|sell=500
|effect=Contains [[event Pokémon]].
|catchrate=1×
|loc=Not found. Obtainable through [[cheating]].
|descdppthgss=A quite rare Poké Ball that has been specially crafted to commemorate an occasion of some sort.
}}

{{Item
|name=Park Ball
|jp=パークボール
|jpt=Park Ball
|gen=IV
|bag=Poké Balls
|effect=Recatches Pokémon sent through [[Pal Park]].
|catchrate=255×
|locdppt=[[Pal Park]]
|lochgss=[[Pal Park]]
|descdppthgss=A special Poké Ball for the Pal Park.
|notes=Pokémon recaught with this ball in Pal Park will keep the ball they were caught in in Generation III.
}}

==In the anime==
[[File:Ashball.png|thumb|right|{{Ash}} pulls out a Poké Ball, preparing to catch a Pokémon.]]
In the anime, without a doubt, the basic Poké Ball is the most commonly used of all varieties, with other varieties appearing either very few times or not at all. A vast majority of Pokémon are shown to be stored in regular Poké Balls, to the point that large collections of Poké Balls can be seen with no variation among them. Even [[Ash's Pikachu]], the most prominent Pokémon in the anime which spends all its time [[walking Pokémon|outside with Ash]], has a plain Poké Ball that differs from others only by the small yellow lightning bolt symbol on it, as seen in ''[[EP001|Pokémon - I Choose You!]]''.

Despite this, the various other types of Poké Ball have been seen in the anime, usually to illustrate a special property about that particular ball. The lack of the different types is unsurprising, however, due to the fact that, when the anime was first created, the games themselves did not even keep track of the Poké Ball that a Pokémon was caught in, and thus, it made no difference in sending a Pokémon out.

The first time that a Poké Ball aside from the normal variation was seen was in [[EP035]], where Ash was given 30 Safari Balls in order to compete in the Safari Game. With these 30 Safari Balls, Ash attempted to catch various rare Pokémon, however, he only managed to capture an entire herd of {{AP|Tauros}}. They appeared in Safari Balls in ''[[EP065|Showdown at the Po-Ké Corral]]''; afterward, however, whenever Ash used one of his Tauros in a battle, it has been sent out from a standard Poké Ball.
[[File:Luxury Repeat Ball anime.png|thumb|Brendan holds his Luxury Ball and Repeat Ball, preparing for a double battle.]]
The [[GS Ball]] was the second of the variant Poké Balls to appear in the anime, this time with a special purpose. This mysterious ball was unable to be opened by [[Professor Ivy]], and served as the reason for Ash's journeys to the [[Orange Archipelago]] (to pick it up) and [[Johto]] (to deliver it to [[Kurt]]), so that what was contained within it could be discovered. {{p|Celebi}} was long rumored to be related to the ball, something which the [[Pokémon Adventures]] and game canons verify, while [[Masamitsu Hidaka|a director of the anime]] confirmed that, had it not been insisted that {{mov|Celebi|Celebi|4}} appear in a central role in [[M04|the fourth movie]], the GS Ball arc would have concluded with Celebi being released from the ball and traveling with Ash and his friends.
[[File:Master ball.png|thumb|left|[[Sullivan]]'s Master Ball]]
Also related to Kurt, as in the games, the first non-standard Poké Ball variants, the [[Apricorn]] balls, made an appearance in the anime, and several were given to the members of the main cast. All three members of the main cast received Fast Balls in ''[[EP143|Going Apricorn!]]'', with [[Brock]] using his to catch a {{TP|Brock|Pineco}} shortly after receiving it. In the [[EP144|next episode]], Brock received a Heavy Ball, while Ash and {{an|Misty}} received Lure Balls. While Brock's Heavy Ball and Ash and Misty's Fast Balls would remain unused (and have not been mentioned since), both Ash and Misty would use their Lure Balls to capture a {{AP|Totodile}} and {{TP|Misty|Corsola}}, respectively. Another Heavy Ball appeared in ''[[AG065|Gulpin It Down]]'', where it was used to capture a giant {{p|Gulpin}}, though this was not the one belonging to Brock.

The Master Ball itself has only appeared once as an actual Poké Ball, in ''[[AG075|Whiscash and Ash]]'', where it was used by [[Sullivan]] in an attempt to catch a wild {{p|Whiscash}}. Despite the fact that a Master Ball cannot be escaped from, the Whiscash ''swallowed'' the Master Ball, thus preventing capture, and disappeared back into the water. While not a Poké Ball itself, Misty owns a beach ball that is designed based on the Master Ball, which can be seen in ''[[EP018|Beauty and the Beach]]'' and ''[[EP167|A Hot Water Battle]]''.

The Generation III specialty balls have only been seen in cameos, with only the Repeat Ball and Luxury Ball appearing, in the opening of [[M07|the seventh movie]]. These balls contained {{ga|Brendan}}'s {{p|Shiftry}} and {{p|Aggron}}, respectively.

The debut of most of the specialty balls, both from Generation III and IV, came in the ending [[Which One ~ Is It?]], which contained the first appearance of the Great Ball and Ultra Ball, as well as the first anime appearance of the Premier, Heal,
Net, Dusk, Nest, Quick, Timer, and Dive Balls.

Many other Poké Balls have been shown in the anime, however, most of these are cosmetic alterations alone, such as Poké Balls with gold plating, diamond studded Poké Balls, and Poké Balls with special designs on them, usually to denote an organization.
[[Image:Yellow's Seadra Poké Ball.png|thumb|right|{{adv|Yellow}}'s {{p|Seadra}}'s Poké Ball in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]
Most notably, a broken Poké Ball, snapped in half at its rusted hinges, is kept by both {{Ash}} and {{Gary}}, symbolizing their rivalry.

==In the manga==
[[Image:Pkballdengeki.png|thumb|left|A Poké Ball in [[Electric Tale of Pikachu]]]]
In the various Pokémon manga, Poké Balls have been shown to appear differently, as an attempt to explain how a Trainer knows which Pokémon is in which ball, as most Pokémon manga series were, like the anime, developed at a time when the games could not keep track of the ball a Pokémon was contained in.

This is explained in [[Pokémon Adventures]] by the tops of Poké Balls being semitransparent, allowing the Pokémon inside, which is miniaturized, to be seen through the ball, while the Pokémon can likewise see out of the ball it is contained in. An interesting fact of this manga is that, unlike in the anime, Pokémon already captured can be recaught in another Poké Ball, as is seen when {{adv|Red}} recatches Misty's Gyarados (though {{adv|Blue}} states that catching a Pokémon that belongs to another is not possible in ''[[PS050|Lapras Lazily]]''). Like in the anime and games, specialty balls do exist, and {{adv|Gold}} and {{adv|Silver}} received a Friend Ball and Heavy Ball, respectively. It has also been shown that unlike the games, Pokémon placed in their balls recover from status conditions, however, like the games do not recover health points.

In the [[Electric Tale of Pikachu]] manga, the rules are more similar to the anime, however, Poké Balls are numbered on the outside, on the button, so that a Trainer knows which member of their team they are sending into battle. As this manga ended before the journey in Johto began, however, no Poké Ball variants were seen.
[[File:Itemball.png|thumb|left|{{ga|Red}} finds an item ball on {{rt|2}}.]]

==Items==
[[Image:Rice Ball Poké Ball.jpg|right|thumb|Ash catches a [[rice ball]] thrown by a wild {{p|Mankey}}]]
In both the anime and games, it has been shown that [[item]]s can be contained in Poké Balls, apparently able to be captured in much the same way as a Pokémon. The anime has used this as a gag on several occasions, most notably in ''[[EP025|Primeape Goes Bananas]]'', where Ash accidentally catches a rice ball when he throws a Poké Ball in an attempt to catch a wild Mankey.
Items contained in Poké Balls have been present from the very first games, with many items that are found on the field being found in Poké Balls in conspicuous locations. These items are sometimes important, and usually will be among the required items for pickup along the way. Sometimes, even Poké Ball variants can be found in item balls, though it may be that the item ball itself is supposed to represent the ball that is found. Many other items, however, are hidden, and are not in item balls, instead being directly on the field, and can be found more easily using an [[Itemfinder]].

==Other variants==
The following Poké Ball variants are found outside of the standard games. They are often very unusual compared to the 25 types found in the games, and it is sometimes questionable whether or not they even qualify as Poké Balls. Many have separate articles, where their unique properties are described in greater detail.

===In the games===
*[[Pester Ball]]s: These objects, which appear similar to Poké Balls at a glance, are not used to catch Pokémon, and instead will release a Pokémon repellent on contact. They are only found in {{g|Snap}}.
*The [[GS Ball]] is an event item that appears only in {{game|Crystal}}, where it was part of a giveaway on the [[Pokémon Mobile System GB]], much as event items are given out in [[Generation IV]] games over the [[Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection]]. It was not used to catch any Pokémon, and was placed in the [[key items]] pocket. If given to [[Kurt]] for inspection, it will activate an event where the player can catch a {{p|Celebi}} in [[Ilex Forest]].
*A [[Snag Ball]] is a Poké Ball variant that has been "unlocked" by the Snag Machine, allowing it to [[snagging|snag]] an already [[caught Pokémon]] during a {{pkmn|battle}}. While it is ''able'' to be used on any Pokémon, [[Rui]] will only allow [[Wes]] to use it on [[Shadow Pokémon]], while [[Michael]] will refuse to use it on any Pokémon that is not a Shadow Pokémon.

===In the anime===
* Several objects were used to contain and control Pokémon before Poké Balls themselves were developed. Large monumental objects have been shown several times in episodes to be containers for large ancient Pokémon, as seen most notably in ''[[EP072|The Ancient Puzzle of Pokémopolis]]''. Smaller objects have also been used, such as the staff belonging to [[Sir Aaron]], which contained his partner, {{mov|Lucario|Lucario|8}}, until {{Ash}} released it in the current era. Special armor developed by [[Marcus]] was used to control Pokémon in ancient [[Michina Town]], though it did not directly ''contain'' the Pokémon.
* {{an|Mewtwo}} had a collection of strange Poké Balls in ''[[M01|Mewtwo Strikes Back]]'', which incorporated an eye into their design, and were used primarily as a means of capture of Pokémon to be cloned. These balls had no trouble catching Pokémon which were already captured— even if they were already inside of Poké Balls. One of these devices is notably the only Poké Ball that [[Ash's Pikachu]] has ever been drawn into during the entire series. They have been called by several names by fans, such as "Mewtwo Balls" and "Clone Balls".
* [[Molly Hale]], whose imagination caused the power of the {{mov|Unown|Unown|3}} to change the world around them, was able to use strange, crystalline Poké Balls when she challenged [[Brock]] and [[Misty]] in ''[[M03|Spell of the Unown]]''. The Pokémon sent from these appeared normally, but dissolved into crystal, rather than being recalled. These crystal Poké Balls only appeared when used by her imagined older selves, and do not appear to actually exist.
* A special variant of Poké Ball, the Lake Ball, was used during the [[Seaking Catching Day|Seaking Catching Competition]] in ''[[EP168|Hook, Line, and Stinker]]''; this is viewed by many to be similar to the Compé Ball used in the [[Bug-Catching Contest]]. They appear as blue and white Poké Balls, with a fish pattern around the edge, and a yellow arrow on the top and bottom of the ball. Interestingly, they don't shake after capture, implying an automatic catch.
* Older Poké Balls have also appeared in the anime, specifically the one carried by [[Sammy]] in ''[[M04|Celebi: Voice of the Forest]]'', which was colored differently and had a knob on it which needed to be twisted before the Pokémon inside was able to be sent out. While it is unknown how they were manufactured, it is likely that they were made by hand using Apricorns, prior to the standardization and mass production of modern-day Poké Balls.
* The [[Iron-Masked Marauder]], an agent of [[Team Rocket]], used special [[Dark Ball]]s that corrupted Pokémon caught and made them mindless servants of the Trainer, as well as raising their power significantly. Multiple Pokémon were caught in these Poké Balls, including the legendary {{mov|Celebi|Celebi|4}} and powerful {{p|Tyranitar}}.
* As in the games, the [[GS Ball]] appeared in the anime, and was the primary motivation for Ash's trip to the [[Orange Archipelago]], where he would compete in his second Pokémon League. It also served as the catalyst for his journey to [[Johto]], as he needed to deliver the ball to [[Kurt]]. Former director [[Masamitsu Hidaka]] revealed that a shelved storyline that would have concluded the GS Ball's arc involved a {{p|Celebi}} that would have traveled with Ash and friends through at least part of Johto, though the storyline was viewed as redundant after the decision was made to introduce Celebi in the fourth movie instead.

<gallery perrow=4>
File:Mewtwoballs.png|{{Ash}} chasing a "Clone Ball" containing {{AP|Pikachu}} from ''[[M01|Mewtwo Strikes Back]]''
File:Sammy's Old Poké Ball.png|Sammy's old Poké Ball from ''[[M04|Celebi: Voice of the Forest]]''
File:Lake Ball.jpg|The Lake Ball from ''[[EP168|Hook, Line, and Stinker]]''
File:Vicious.jpg|[[Iron-Masked Marauder]] holding a Dark Ball
</gallery>

==In the Super Smash Bros. series==
[[Image:Pokeball.jpg|thumb|right|Render of a Poké Ball from [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]]]
Poké Balls in their base design are an item in the [[Super Smash Bros.]] series. First appearing in the original game, they can be picked up and thrown by the characters to do damage, and, on striking the ground, release a random Pokémon. In the original, the Pokémon that can be released are {{p|Beedrill}}, {{p|Blastoise}}, {{p|Chansey}}, {{p|Charizard}}, {{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Goldeen}}, {{p|Hitmonlee}}, {{p|Koffing}}, {{p|Meowth}}, {{p|Mew}}, {{p|Onix}}, {{p|Snorlax}}, or {{p|Starmie}}. In [[Super Smash Bros. Melee|Melee]], the listing changes, and now the Pokémon released include Generation II Pokémon, with {{p|Venusaur}}, {{p|Charizard}}, {{p|Blastoise}}, {{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Electrode}}, {{p|Weezing}}, {{p|Chansey}}, {{p|Goldeen}}, {{p|Staryu}}, {{p|Snorlax}}, {{p|Articuno}}, {{p|Zapdos}}, {{p|Moltres}}, {{p|Mew}}, {{p|Chikorita}}, {{p|Cyndaquil}}, {{p|Togepi}}, {{p|Bellossom}}, {{p|Marill}}, {{p|Unown}}, {{p|Wobbuffet}}, {{p|Scizor}}, {{p|Porygon2}}, {{p|Raikou}}, {{p|Entei}}, {{p|Suicune}}, {{p|Lugia}}, {{p|Ho-Oh}}, or {{p|Celebi}} appearing. {{p|Ditto}} was also planned to appear, acting as a clone of the character who released it for a short while, but was dummied out of the final game and can only be accessed through [[cheating]], where it does nothing. In the third installment, [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]], [[Generation III]] and [[Generation IV]] Pokémon were added, and now {{p|Meowth}}, {{p|Electrode}}, {{p|Goldeen}}, {{p|Staryu}}, {{p|Snorlax}}, {{p|Moltres}}, {{p|Mew}}, {{p|Chikorita}}, {{p|Togepi}}, {{p|Bellossom}}, {{p|Wobbuffet}}, {{p|Entei}}, {{p|Suicune}}, {{p|Lugia}}, {{p|Ho-Oh}}, {{p|Celebi}}, {{p|Torchic}}, {{p|Gardevoir}}, {{p|Gulpin}}, {{p|Metagross}}, {{p|Latias}}, {{p|Latios}}, {{p|Kyogre}}, {{p|Groudon}}, {{p|Jirachi}}, {{p|Deoxys}}, {{p|Piplup}}, {{p|Bonsly}}, {{p|Munchlax}}, {{p|Weavile}}, or {{p|Manaphy}} can be released from a Poké Ball that is thrown.

===[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]] Trophy information===
''These balls are used to catch and contain wild Pokémon. Most Pokémon must be weakened in some way before they can be caught, but once they're inside a Poké Ball, they enjoy their new home, since Poké Balls contain an environment specially designed for Pokémon comfort. Master Balls are the strongest type.''

==In the TCG==
Several variants of Poké Ball have been released in card form in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]], ranging from the standard variants found in the games and other media to variants specific to the TCG.

===Standard variants===
[[File:FastBall.jpg|thumb|right|The Fast Ball, in card form]]
*The standard {{TCG ID|Jungle|Poké Ball|64}} card, which was the first released, debuted in the {{TCG|Jungle}} expansion and has since been featured in many others. It features a TCG-centric mechanic, requiring a {{TCG|coin}} flip to search the deck for a {{TCG|Pokémon}} to be put in the hand. Most of the Poké Ball variants, both adapted from the games and exclusive to the TCG, are similar to this, with several requiring coin flips to use their effect.
*The {{TCG ID|EX FireRed & LeafGreen|Great Ball|92}}, which first appeared in the {{TCG|EX FireRed & LeafGreen|TCG expansion}} coinciding with the {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s|remakes}} of the [[Generation I]] games, is somewhat of an upgrade to the Poké Ball, and does not require the coin flip that the Poké Ball does, instead restricting the search of Pokémon to Basic Pokémon.
*The {{TCG ID|Gym Challenge|Master Ball|116}}, first appearing in the {{TCG|Gym Challenge}} expansion, and in the games the most powerful of the Poké Balls, provides a vastly different effect than the standard. Rather than searching the entire deck, only the top seven cards may be searched. One {{TCG|Pokémon}} found in these seven can be put into the hand, while the rest must be shuffled back into the deck.
*Debuting in the {{TCG|Skyridge}} expansion, the {{TCG ID|Skyridge|Lure Ball|128}} is different from the basic Poké Balls in that it draws from the {{TCG|discard pile}} rather than the deck. For each heads flipped, with a maximum of three, an {{TCG|Evolution card}} can be returned from the discard pile and put into the hand. It has not appeared since.
*Also debuting in Skyridge, the {{TCG ID|Skyridge|Friend Ball|126}}, another [[Apricorn]] Ball, has a unique effect entirely, allowing the user to search their deck for a Pokémon of the same {{TCG|elemental types|type}} as one of the opponent's Pokémon, making it effective in decks that typically match up well against their own type. It also has not appeared since.
*The {{TCG ID|Skyridge|Fast Ball|124}} allows the player to go through their deck, turning over cards one at a time until they find the first evolution card, and then taking that into their hand, shuffling afterward. Like the other two Apricorn Balls, it debuted in Skyridge and has not appeared since.
*The {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Premier Ball|101}}, debuting in the {{TCG|Great Encounters}} expansion, is special, much as in the games, and allows the player to search either the deck ''or'' the discard pile for a {{TCG|Pokémon LV.X}} to put into their hand.
*The {{TCG ID|Stormfront|Luxury Ball|86}}, first found in the {{TCG|Stormfront}} expansion, is among the rarest of the Poké Ball varieties in the games, though its catch rate is the same as that of a normal Poké Ball. Likewise it is so with the TCG, allowing a non-{{TCG|Pokémon LV.X|LV.X}} Pokémon to be searched from the deck, but only if another Luxury Ball card is not in the discard pile.[[File:RocketBall.jpg|thumb|right|The Rocket's Poké Ball card.]]
*The {{TCG ID|Mysterious Treasures|Quick Ball|114}} released in the {{TCG|Mysterious Treasures}} expansion has a similar effect to the Fast Ball released in Skyridge, allowing the player to uncover cards from their deck until they find a Pokémon. An expansion of the Fast Ball's use, any Pokémon can be found, though this may prove an issue if the player is looking for an Evolution card specifically and finds a Basic Pokémon first.
*The {{TCG ID|Mysterious Treasures|Dusk Ball|110}}, also first found in Mysterious Treasures, features an effect somewhat opposite from the Master Ball's: Instead of the top seven cards being searched, only the bottom seven cards may be, and a Pokémon found there may be put into the player's hand.

===TCG-only variants===
*The {{TCG ID|Expedition|Dual Ball|139}} is merely two Poké Balls together, and has a similar effect to using two plain Poké Ball cards, requiring two coin flips to search for up to two Pokémon, depending on how many heads appear.
*The {{TCG ID|EX Team Magma vs Team Aqua|Team Magma Ball|80}} is [[Team Magma]]'s Poké Ball variant, found only in the {{TCG|EX Team Magma vs Team Aqua}} expansion. It works similarly to a Poké Ball, however, it only can be used to find Team Magma's Pokémon, and will still allow a player to find a Pokémon, though only a {{TCG|Basic Pokémon|Basic one}}, if the coin flip results in tails.
*The {{TCG ID|EX Team Magma vs Team Aqua|Team Aqua Ball|75}} is [[Team Aqua]]'s Poké Ball variant, also found only in the {{TCG|EX Team Magma vs Team Aqua}} expansion. It works ''exactly'' the same as the Team Magma Ball, with the exception that it can only search out Team Aqua's Pokémon instead.
*The {{TCG ID|EX Team Rocket Returns|Rocket's Poké Ball|89}} is the [[Team Rocket]] variation on the Poké Ball, found in the {{TCG|EX Team Rocket Returns}} expansion. Unlike others, no coin flip is required, and it simply allows the player to search for a {{TCG|Dark Pokémon}}.

==Trivia==
*Many of the types of Poké Ball introduced in [[Generation III]] function similarly to those introduced in [[Generation II]]: the Nest Ball, like the Level Ball, is better if used on Pokémon of lower levels, the Net and Dive Balls are both useful against Pokémon found while in the water, much like the Lure Ball, and the Luxury Ball raises a Pokémon's [[happiness]] quickly, similarly to a Friend Ball. Excluding the Sport Ball, which many see as a parallel to the Safari Ball which made its return in Generation III, the specialty Balls made by the Devon Corporation in Hoenn number at seven, the same amount as the Apricorn Balls made by Kurt.
*In Generation II, the Park Ball's name is written as one word on the menu, rather than as two, as the rest of the Poké Balls are. This is due to the size limitation placed on the text by the [[Game Boy Color]]'s small screen. The Generation IV Park Ball does not have this issue, as [[Nintendo DS]] screens are ''much'' wider and the font used is thinner.
*In some early artwork for {{game|Red and Green|s}}, Poké Balls are shown on the ground in two pieces while the Pokémon are in battle, rather than in the more familiar hinged form they take now. This may be a carryover from when Pokémon was known as Capsule Monsters, as the Poké Ball sprites do not show the button on the ball in Generation I either. Interestingly, in [[Generation II]], Poké Balls split in half when capturing a Pokémon as part of their animation, while the anime had been using the hinge style since the very first episode.
*Poké Balls are inspired by the capsules for {{wp|gashapon}} machines, which contain small, handheld toys.
 
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Talk:Blue (game)

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"...previously referred to as Gary in early manuals..."
I checked a few of my manuals:
* English Red: refers to him as "rival"
* English Blue: refers to him as "rival"
* Japanese Blue: refers to him as "Red (rival)"
* Japanese Yellow: refers to him as "Blue (rival)"

So, is the piece about him being referred to as Gary referring to the instruction manuals somewhere, or to players guides? --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

Interesting. I was going off an official Nintendo strategy guide from Red/Blue. It said Gary in every instance. I said early because in a yellow version one I used to have it no longer said Gary and switched to either Blue or Rival, can't remember which. But if in the actual manuals it's not mentioned, then it should probably be taken out. --[[user:greengiant|greengiant]]

Ah yes, I may know the strategy guide. The anime came out before the games by about a month in the US, so that may be why they chose to use "Ash" and "Gary" -- or even because they knew kids would be used to the anime regardless of when it came out. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

Haha. Yeah I have a couple "official" guides that always refers to him as Gary, never "your rival". Which always annoyed me. The only use those guides serve is as an attack reference anyway. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 09:16, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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>Shouldn't he be taken out of the anime characters category? - Zeta

Unfortunately, "Anime Category" is bound to the "Gym Leader" category. If you want to remove it from the anime category, and ensure each Gym Leader properly has this category where applicable, that'd be great. I don't have time at the moment to do it myself. Janine falls into the same spot as being listed in anime -- or was she in it? --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

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Am I the only person who noticed that they officially changed his name back to Green in FRLG? [[User:Fishman|Fishman]] 21:06, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

:They did, but until GSDS confirms that with him as an NPC, we can't change it back. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 13:46, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

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== Blue's Charizard ==

Why does this page list Blue's Charizard as having Aerial Ace in Red/Blue/Green? Aerial Ace wasn't introduced until 3rd Generation. I don't know what it should be, but it definitely isn't Aerial Ace. --[[User:ZellMurasame|ZellMurasame]] 02:13, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah... someone likely took the data straight from FRLG. Anyway... we'll need someone to fix that. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 03:12, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

::Looks like there was another error with Blue's Charizard that's been hanging there since forever. It was listed as having Dragon Dance, which was introduced in GenII. So I assume it knew Flamethrower instead, but if anyone has a R/B version where they can challenge Blue at Route 22, then I'd be much obliged if they checked me on that. Or, if someone can simply find confirmation on its moves, but I don't know where they might find that. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 13:46, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== Hmmm..... ==

Okay, in Yellow, we know that how Blue evolves Eevee depends on the first two battles. (battle 1=Prof Oak's lab, battle 2=Route 22)

Jolteon: Win battles 1 and 2

Vaporeon: Lose battle 1, lose/skip battle 2

Flareon: Win battle 1, lose/skip battle 2

BUT! What if the player loses the first battle and then wins the second battle? Does Blue not evolve Eevee at all? Is its evolution chose randomly? I lost my Yellow Version YEARS ago, so I couldn't find out myself. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 23:05, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

:It's not based specifically on each individual battle. It's based on the number of times you beat him. If you beat him both times, then it's Jolteon. If you beat him one time, it's Flareon. If you didn't beat him either time, it's Vaporeon. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 16:20, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

== A few things ==

The tables of his Pokémon are a bit too much. Any way to fix it? It's annoying to load. Also, in the table for other names, there's an extra column. Lastly, Gary has more than one sprite in the games where he's a rival. [[User: Tc26|'''tc''']][[User talk: Tc26|'''2''']][[Special: Contributions/Tc26|'''6''']] 02:27, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:It's Blue, not Gary. And we've changed the sprites for his Final Confrontation as Champion for RB. Originally, his RB sprite was used for the yellow tables, because neither Bulbapedia, nor anywhere else on the internet, or so it seems, has the yellow trainer sprites. So I'm ripping them and uploading them as I go. But that means it will take me a bit of time to get to the Championship battle in Yellow, so I'll upload it when I get there (I'm currently at Bill's House in Yellow, but I'm speedplaying).

:Oh, and about the tables being a bit too much, that's the new standard for Bulbapedia. The old version of the pages had just the species names and levels for each encounter, and maybe the moves for the final encounter. So deal with the levels, because it's a real pain to make, and we're not going to revert all that hard work we've done over the last several days. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 13:38, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:Starting with battle 4 there's a new Blue sprite in Yellow and FRLG, and most likely RB. There's also a third (champion) sprite. Just thought I'd throw that out. [[User:Gligar|'''Gli''']][[User talk:Gligar|'''gar''']] 21:04, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, that's why I changed the sprite for Battle 4 in Yellow. There are NO Yellow Trainer sprites, save the ones I've been uploading these past weeks. Give me some time, and I'll get you some sprites. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 23:59, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

So... Perhaps due to Tc26's complaint back on the 19th, or simply perhaps because we're goin gto have a new standard, TTEchidna has changed the charts on the Brock Page so as that the tables show more information, the version sprites, and can be hid. Shall we do this for Blue as well? [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 18:25, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

:I like it a lot better than the other one, personally. It's much more detailed. What do you think? [[User:Okoa|Okoa]] 03:40, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
::Same here. It's just going to be a bitch to change. But, I'll go about it, piece by piece, and I'm sure other people will too. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 17:00, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:::I'll help you out. That's a lot of Trainers to change. =) [[User:Okoa|Okoa]] 17:07, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

==Champion==

This article claims "It is a mystery who Blue's predecessor as Champion was." however, isn't it supposed to be a twist that Blue is the Champion and the player is expecting themselves to be the Champion after beating Lance? Also, I'm sure Lance implies that Blue is the first person to defeat the Elite Four... so surely we are to believe that Blue did not have a predecessor as Champion?
:I agree. It was only by second generation that "Champion" became a title for a standard character, who remains champion for good (though I guess Daigo got ousted by Mikuri, but we'll let that one slide...). The original games imply that beating Wataru makes the player the champion. I quote: "Congratulations, [player], you are now the new Champion! ...Or, you would have been, ...etc." RGBY imply that one only needs to beat the Four Heavenly Kings to become the Pokémon League Champion, but from GSC on, the current Champion was a role that was expected to be faced after the Shitenno. In a way, they (the game designers) decided that the Lord of the Four Heavenly Kings (in myth, the Shitenno always serve a master) was as much an important role so it really becomes more like 5 elite trainers, though I guess they are supposed to serve whoever is the current greatest. The fact the Champion stays on until you decide to not challenge the Shitenno any more and move on to the next game (after which you, the player, truly is the champion, as we see that Red was Champion during the years between RGBY and GSC), the role of Champion seems more like the game designers didn't know what they were going to do with it from then on. Wataru's sudden appearance as the Champion is somewhat of a twist too; if he's a wandering trainer and no longer a member of the Shitenno, it's a surprise that he's the champion. Similarly Daigo, Mikuri, and Shirona all have plot-related roles, and thus are the surprise ending Champions. But at the time of RGBY, they didn't really know they would be using these non-rival Champions, so we can't really say that there had to have been a Champion before Green. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 17:00, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== Generation III Champion sprite ==

Down in the Trivia section, it says that Generation III does not give Blue a separate Champion sprite, and I just wanted to point out that that's not true; it's just that no one's uploaded Blue's other FR/LG sprites. Anyways, I didn't want to start an edit war or anything, so I thought I'd point it out first. [[User:Okoa|Okoa]] 17:46, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:True. How could anyone write such bullshit? I just LOVE it when so-called "fans" jump into conclusion. And that's all from someone's laziness. Thanks for pointing this out, otherwise Bulbapedia would have yet another false information. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 17:49, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
::Ahhh, that looks so much better. Thank you for uploading them! [[User:Okoa|Okoa]] 18:50, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== Quotes ==

Do we only have Blue's Champion quote because those are the only ones we could find or because otherwise the page would become overcrowded? Atm, I'm actually looking for all of his quotes, does anyone know where I can find this without playing through the entirety of Red & Gold? [[User:Gastlys mama|Gastlys mama]] 23:50, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:[http://web.archive.org/web/20070718010538/tohjofalls.atspace.com/poke/dump-red.txt] [http://www.freewebs.com/tohjofalls/crysdump.txt] [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 21:12, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:: Awesome, thanks! [[User:Gastlys mama|Gastlys mama]] 22:22, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

== Brown? ==

His eyes look black-ish to me. Red's,and Leaf's,eyes look brown. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 00:32, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

== Page size ==

Do you think this page is a little too big? My browser freaks out when I visit it. Maybe the sprites should be hidden. This page is current 107 kbs long, more than 3 times the recommended size. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:49, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

== Idea For the Size ==

<ab>I just had an idea for the size. Why not split it up like this:

Blue (game)/Red and Blue
Blue (game)/Yellow
Blue (game)/FireRed and LeafGreen

Or something along those lines. This will significantly reduce the page sizes.</ab> '''[[User:ShinjiLover|SL]]'''''[[User talk:ShinjiLover|-sama]]''[[Special:Contributions/ShinjiLover|contribs]] 18:38, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

:But it would be for his teams only (something like what we have for Pokemon movesets). Because it would be useless to have separate articles on Blue's character in every game. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 19:02, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
::That would be an idea to go on... Problem is, how would we do so? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:20, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Perhaps just like the subpages for the old movesets. So like "Blue (game)/Red and Blue teams" etc. GSC probably could stay in the article and just give a ''main article'' link for the other three. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:41, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Just like what Trom said, that's what I was going for. And, yes, I meant the teams. But if it would compress the size of the article even more, we could also just put the whole thing in the subpages and leave a link so people can get to them. Like <nowiki>{{main|Blue (game)/In Red and Blue}}</nowiki>. '''[[User:ShinjiLover|SL]]'''''[[User talk:ShinjiLover|-sama]]''[[Special:Contributions/ShinjiLover|contribs]] 02:33, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::But having a whole article like a big signpost just seems silly to me. All the character stuff, names and etceteras should stay on the page because it's the same info for every game. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 05:48, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::If you're concerned about it being a bunch of redirects, I don't see why the sections can't be expanded to talk about his role in each game, and a box with a link off to the right side linking to his team page for that game. Right now, the page is (ironically) a lot of red. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 13:59, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Because someone didn't change the template's colors and went with the default. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:02, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I have an idea. We could make a different page for his Stadium teams. [[User:GreenGyarados|GreenGyarados]]

===RBG section prototype===
Blue and Red have been rivals ever since they were babies. Before leaving for his journey, he lived in Pallet Town, just like Red.

The player first meets Blue at Professor Oak's lab, where he and Red were asked to come. Oak offers the two of them one Pokémon each, with Red having first choice from {{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Squirtle}}, and {{p|Charmander}}. After Red chooses a Pokémon, Blue chooses the one with a type advantage over Red's. He then brags that his Pokémon looks much stronger. When Red is about to leave, Blue challenges him to a battle. Whatever the outcome, Blue declares his intention to train his Pokémon, and leaves.

Soon, Professor Oak calls the two of them back to give them Pokédexes, and tells them of his dream to categorize all Pokémon in the world with their help. Blue says he can do it by himself, and tells his sister, [[Daisy]], not to give Red a [[Town Map]] (she does so anyway, not acknowledging his words).

...

It isn't until they meet up again in [[Lavender Town]]'s [[Pokémon Tower]] that Blue's initial choice affects the rest of his team, where he switches out his Raticate and switches in Pokémon of the two types he didn't initially choose ({{p|Exeggcute}}, {{p|Gyarados}}, and {{p|Growlithe}} for Bulbasaur, Squirtle, and Charmander), bringing a sort of type balance to his team.

...

After beating the Elite Four, Red finds out from Lance that Blue was one step ahead of him, and is now the Champion. He proceeds into the final battle room to find Blue visibly more mature and with all of his Pokémon in their final evolutions, and he claims that his team could beat any type. Blue brags that he is the most powerful trainer in the world, and the battle starts.

:Not really sure whether to focus on plot or gameplay. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 08:04, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
::I like it, but I've added a tiny bit to it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:59, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

== Version-specific nomenclature ==

Based on the default names in ''FireRed'' and ''LeafGreen'', should version-specific incidences of this character (namely his ''FR''/''LG'' battles) carry "Green" in place?
Also, from up top of this page, it's interesting that the Japanese Yellow uses "Blue" for rival default (and helps me to rationalize ''G''/''S''/''C'' use of Blue, since I'm a Yellow supporter above all first-gen versions (but this is all beside the point)). [[User:TJF588|TJF588]] 23:55, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
:Third versions always use the second version name for the rival (except RSE, which named the rival Brendan/May). As for his name changing to Green based on FRLG, well, we pretty much decided to wait until the almost completely inevitable [[GSDS]] to see if that has him as Green or Blue, and then use that. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:01, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
::Optional names change in every game. That's not really a good base to debate anything. Only NPC appearance names count as canonical names. That means that his name is Blue. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 09:02, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Well that too. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:21, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
::::According to his article, he had Blue as a default name in the Japanese Yellow, despite officially being Green there. The fact that he has Green as a default name in FireRed might not be any different, so we should wait for an English translation of HeartGold and SoulSilver. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 04:00, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::That was probably because nothing had Blue in Japan. Or something. Who knows. Yellow came out there when RB came here. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:06, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

== So about calling him "Green" ==

Let it be known that if he is in fact named as Green in HGSS's English translation (he will be in HGSS's Japanese, because he's ''always'' been Green there) this is moving to {{ga|Green}}. Same goes for [[Janine]] if they rename her in HGSS (please don't, NoA). '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:39, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:He will always be Blue to me, but that IS logical. I can’t see anyone having a problem with it that doesn’t boil down to aesthetics/nostalgia. I hope he stays Blue in the games though. --WikidSmaht 13:47, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
::Yay!!!! --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 22:09, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
:In the trivia, it should be noted that he's the only gym leader with a generic color name. [[User:Ampere|Ampere]] 07:15, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:So do it. Although, I’m not really sure that’s important... --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 22:09, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

== Separating the article ==

As they said, this article is too long.
Maybe u should seperate the battle into a new page.
Naming it, "Battle with Blue (Games)"
And this page should be rename "Blue (Game)(Main)"
--[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 08:20, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

:I think if we do split the article it should just be generation I, then every generation above that on a different article. We really could compress it though. {{unsigned|MasterKenobi}}
::Just a separate parties page for the Gen I battles and the Gen III aside-from-final battles. Meaning we'd have the Charizard, Blastoise, and Venusaur parties, as well as the GS party, which we'd move to the past party page when we get his HGSS party. But let's wait until we get his HGSS party to do so, so we can do less edits. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:18, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Splitting off the previous generation party lists to other articles, much like in the same vein as Pokémon's movesets from previous generations are split off is definitely what's needed here. Moving off the Gen I lists to {{red link|Blue (game)/Generation I parties}} and the Stadium lists to {{red link|Blue (game)/Pokémon Stadium parties}} for example, should vastly reduce the size of the article.
:::Darn these multi-generation recurring characters... '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 12:26, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

::::Good job seperating Generation I/II's Pokémon. When HGSS comes, the page will be long again.
::::How about this? List of Pokémon, all put as "show" then open the "show" is the sprites, another "show" will be the Pokémon used? It is confusing??? --[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 03:31, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

== about his sprites... ==

In the FRLG section, he changes into 3 different sprites. Is this true in the game or what? (I never played gen 3 b4) ---> [[User:223david|'''223''']][[Special:Contributions/223david|☆]][[User talk:223david|'''Dåv]d''']]''' 15:07, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:Yes. One sprite for early battles, one for later battles and one for the Pokémon League battle. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 15:10, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

== Shouldn't his name be Green? ==

Well, the reason why we seem to call him Blue is because of the US Pokemon Red & ''Blue'' versions of course. That's probably because in Pokemon Red, the default name for your rival is Blue, and that's his name in G/S/C.

But were in Gen IV now, so shouldn't his name be Green? Since LeafGreen version was ''not'' renamed WaterBlue or something in the US, and according to FireRed version, the default name for your rival is Green.

Also, wtf is the female player of FR/LG being called Leaf? And since when was the HG/SS named Soul? And since when was the D/P/Pt rival named Pearl? I already know the answer: they never had those names :/. --Chaos Rush 00:38:19 (UTC)
:At the moment we are waiting for HGSS, where Blue/Green will be an NPC, rather than a rival, to see what his name is. Until then it was decided above that he will be Blue, as that was his only NPC appearance where the player does not name him.
:The female player character for FR/LG is called "Leaf", because that is what she is named if you cancel out of the naming screen without putting a name in the ''first'' version (i.e. Fire Red). Soul is currently called such based on Leaf (prefix of second version), but may change when HGSS comes out.
:Pearl is called such for the same reason as Leaf - that is what is given if you cancel out of the name entry screen in Diamond.
:Ask an admin for the official policy, but it appears to be that if they are never an NPC that is not named by the player, then they are named with whatever name it gives them if you enter a blank name - essentially the game's defaults. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 00:50, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

:: That's not true. In FireRed, if you leave your name blank, it does ''not'' come out with Leaf. It comes out with a bunch of random names, such as "Suzi" and "June". Also in Diamond and Platinum, if you leave your rival's name blank, he automatically becomes Barry :/. Again, that's pretty much why I think that Leaf and Pearl are stupid fake names. [[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 04:52, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

:::Uh, "Barry" is at the top of the list for {{ga|Pearl}}, not the autodefault for when leaving the name entry blank. Trust me, if Barry WERE the autodefault, it would have been reflected in the title a long time ago. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:55, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

:::: That makes absolutely no sense. What you just said directly contradicts what the article itself says. The article for Pearl said that "Barry" is the autodefault for both Diamond and Platinum :/. [[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 16:34, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

:::::...No. No, it doesn't.--'''Dark''' [[Mask of Ice|'''ICE''']] (User:Cold)([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 16:37, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

:::::: Then explain this: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pearl_(game)#Optional_names_for_Pearl
:::::: OWNED. [[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 17:05, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Show me the word "default".--'''Dark''' [[Mask of Ice|'''ICE''']] (User:Cold)([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 17:08, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::: Isn't that what you meant by default? :/ If that's not the case, tell me what you mean by default, and tell my why the article says "Barry" for Diamond and Platinum. [[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 17:10, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

:::::::::Look under the list, not in the list. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 17:16, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

:::::::::: Oh, I see. But to me it still doesn't make sense how if GameFreak have stopped naming their characters after version names in R/S/E and D/P/Pt, why would the Rival have a version name as his name? And what's with favoring Diamond version over Pearl O_o... And judging by the way "Leaf" was named, then wouldn't that mean that "Pearl" would be Cedric according to in-game hidden data? Illogical of course. We might as well rename the Leaf article, "Amanda/Cassie/Hillary/Jodi/June/Makey/Michi/Omi/Paula/Rey/Seda/Kiko/Mina/Norie/Sai/Momo/Suzi" since those are the defaults, right? That's why it makes no sense, if Leaf is to be named after hidden data, than it would be logical to name the D/P/Pt rival after his hidden data, "Cedric", and yet you guys name him from the default name, while Leaf doesn't get a default name. So why does Leaf get to use her hidden data, while Pearl uses his default?[[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 17:26, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
(/resets indent)This is Blue's talkpage. Don't complain about Leaf or Pearl here.--'''Dark''' [[Mask of Ice|'''ICE''']] (User:Cold)([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 17:28, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

: And of course somebody thinks of an excuse to abruptly end the argument once the evidence/logic is shoved in their face. [[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 17:33, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

::(reset) This is probably due to Pearl actually having a pre-set default, while Leaf doesn't. The internal coding is Leaf's fallback, one Pearl doesn't need. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 17:29, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh, I ''will'' keep on arguing once this is brought to the proper location.--'''Dark''' [[Mask of Ice|'''ICE''']] (User:Cold)([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 17:35, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

With this logic, shouldn't he just be referred to as Rival (R/G/B), instead? Same for all of the other Rivals. I don't think anyone will agree with me, but it's more official... -[[User:ConfuseRayMisdreavus|ConfuseRayMisdreavus]] 19:03 1/16/10,
== Trivia is Shorter ==

I made the trivia a bit shorter, and I want to see if was OK with ya. So is it? (I saw the tag, so that's why.) --[[User:The Bulb's Master|The Bulb's Master]] 12:40, 6 September 2009 (UTC) King and Master of Bulbasaur, Turtwig♀, and most reacently, Chikorita.

== Template recolors? ==

Why were his GSC/HGSS templates recolored? I mean, all his other templates are perfectly OK, with the blue head color, current version border colors and stuff. May I ask why the color change? All of his templates are the that color scheme, so I'll change it back until anyone objects. {{color|00DD00|--[[User:Bulbafan|Bulbafan]] 23:59, 28 September 2009 (UTC)}}
:His colorscheme in the games is green in HGSS. It's Blue color for GSC because he was Blue then because of Red and Blue. In HGSS he gets LeafGreen color because he's gonna be Green because of FireRed and LeafGreen. Red's the same way. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:51, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
::Except he isn’t. I reverted the color change that was made when we only had Serebii’s word for it, but now that the games are out, I’m reverting my revert. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 22:09, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

== English name ==

After playing through HGSS, I'm thinking they'll be calling him Green in the English games. His room's green, his Gym's green (where all others have their typecolor)... though like Clair, his Gym has two colors... While Clair's had the colors of the Dragon type icon in FRLG, Blue's Gym is green on top... and blue around the sides. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:54, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
:I agree with you. The default name of Green is Green in FR/LG not blue, but since Bulbapedia is a dictatorship, and the higher ups says, "Well in FR/LG you can name him whatever you want, so Green isn't his official name". *Facepalm* [[User:Pokemon1234567890|''Poke'']][[Cool Trainer|''mon'']][[User talk:Pokemon1234567890|''1234567890'']]
::If it was a dictatorship, you'd be banned for saying that. ;)
::But anyways, it used to be Green before we revamped the whole site about a month ago. Soooooo... don't be saying crap like that. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 17:21, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Huh? RAHB, you're thinking of the {{adv|Blue|manga guy}}. This wasn't moved, it was always Blue, cuz that's his name in English GS. IF his English HGSS name will be Green, then we'll move him. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 17:35, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Really? I thought this was moved too... oh well. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 17:41, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::You got a point Hunter Blade. If it was a dictatorship I would've been banned. Okay, It's a monarchy, but anyway back on subject. The only reason his name was Blue in generation one was because of the lack of Green being released anywhere besides Japan. I bet the Japanese Bulbapedia doesn't have this problem. (I bet they are laughing at us). -[[User:Pokemon1234567890|''Poke'']]''mon''[[User talk:Pokemon1234567890|''1234567890'']]
::::::The only reason they'd laugh at us is because we have a canonical conundrum (actually, I'd think they'd rather feel sorry we're even in this situation) that won't be solved easily (why would the Japanese have this issue? It's not theirs). Which Japanese is the top canon, "Green" is not English canon (yet). You're reasoning he's "only Blue because..." verifies that, for the time being, ''yes'' he is Blue in English canon. That's top par. And if HGSS carries over the "Blue" issue, you people will still argue, "But he's Green over there!" But he's not Green here. And if HGSS does have Green, it ''will'' be changed, because that's apparently how it's done (why Jackson is [[Vincent]] despite being Jackson first).
::::::And yet, we've recently tucked in out pants to put the Special manga into its English roots. Which meant, yes, changing the Green character into Blue (as is English canon, despite the issue with their eye colors that makes) and vice versa. We support English canon for our frontyard (meaning it will always be the face of Bulbapedia: ''English language denotions'') and use Japanese canon to support what is needed to be supported (as it is true canon). But since names are changes from Japanese ones to English ones, proper names are not infallible, nor are taken as "correct" over the English ones. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 23:58, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
:So much for that theory. :-p --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 22:09, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

== Location on where to get his PokeGear number and battle time ==

We are missing that. If we have a thing that tells what his team is during the rematch, we should have the time and place on where you can get his number and when you can battle him. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:54, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
:From [[Daisy Oak]], actually. Her article implies it could be any time... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 00:05, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

== last name ==

It appears that his sister's last name has been confirmed in the game. This implies that his last name is also Oak. Should this be moved? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 01:08, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
:I'll support the move. But in which game was it confirmed? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 01:08, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
::FRLG Fame Checker for Daisy. It's the Four Island entry. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 01:10, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
:::<s>OK then. Support.</s> [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 01:10, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Oppose. Who the hell would look for him under "Blue Oak"?? :/ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 01:16, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Actually, {{u|Umeko}}'s right. Changing to oppose. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 01:19, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Should it at least be noted? I don't think it should be moved, but it should be noted. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 01:21, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, at least let it be noted... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 01:23, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Another thing, Umeko, isn't that way redirects exist? I'm pretty sure 95% of the people that go to bulbapedia search Pokemon/pokemon instead of Pokémon, yet they are kept at that name due to it being official. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 01:51, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::This is the same bull we got into with May Birch/Brendan Birch. NO THANK YOU. Like {{adv|Blue}} is staying there, {{ga|Blue}} is. We're not moving him. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:56, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::Should it be noted though? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 02:03, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Reset. Keep Blue where he is [at "Blue (game)"], set up a "Blue Oak" redirect, and in the article, set up the first sentence as "'''Blue Oak''' (Japanese: '''オーキドグリーン''' ''Green Ōkido'')". No change necessary, tidbit is addressed. Things like that are done on Wikipedia all the time, when someone is known by a name, but their real name is longer, or different from what they go by. No harm, no foul. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 02:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Blue Oak goes to his manga counterpart, so should it become a disambiguation? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 02:19, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, I say we leave the page title as-is, but call him "Blue Oak" in the opening sentence. Like we did in [[Sapphire (Adventures)]]. Also, yeah, I guess it should be a disambig since they ''do'' have the same name. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:05, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

==Hair==
While Gary Oak in the anime clearly has brown hair, I guess people are overlooking the fact this character has hair just about the same color as Misty's. His hair is clearly not brown, it's orange, or at the least burnt orange, which is the color most natural redheads have in real life. Someone needs to change his information, please. [[User:Getsuei|Getsuei]] 04:39, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:Nope, it's brown.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 04:53, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

[http://yfrog.com/16heartgoldsoulsilverbluep] I disagree. Unless it has officially been called brown, which I doubt. [[User:Getsuei|Getsuei]] 05:00, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:I'd call it auburn, actually.
:Tell me, did you join Bulbapedia just to bitch about hair colors? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 05:08, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
No, this isn't the first thing I've done since joining, and that's not the reason I joined. Why? did you join to "bitch" about new users? Also, you clearly don't know what auburn is, because auburn is a deep shade of red(the actual color) and brown. Guess I'm pretty good at bitching about hair colors though. [[User:Getsuei|Getsuei]] 05:11, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Also, if you'd like to know a more correct term, it would be burnt orange, the color many natural redheads have. [[User:Getsuei|Getsuei]] 05:13, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:That's about the same color as a light brown colored pencil. Crayola brand. In both the 12 and 24 pack. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 05:15, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::I think most people who have used colored pencils know they don't come out as dead on as the color's name. Also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_(colour)]

Compare him to Brock's game art, tell me how similar they are? [[User:Getsuei|Getsuei]] 05:17, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:There's a thing called shades. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:18, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, and his hair is clearly a shade of orange. And since you know about shades you should know most people with orange tones of hair have light brown tones along with them. Are you making a point? [[User:Getsuei|Getsuei]] 05:19, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::He is a fictional character no one cares. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 05:20, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Then why are you here if you don't care? Also, why does his page even have a slot for his hair color if no one cares? Why does this site even exist if nobody cares about anything? Nice way to back yourself up. [[User:Getsuei|Getsuei]] 05:21, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Hehe... you're not helping yourself either, Getsuei. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 05:23, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::We're here to tell you to shut up and stop bitching about all the small details, so shut up and stop bitching about shit no one cares about. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:23, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

"Kinda orangish-brown with flecks of white in it, happy now?" So somebody edited his page to say this.
Okay? The fact just about everyone here has problems with me just because I wanted to get his details on his page right, even to this degree of flaming, is crazy. Nice way to run a wiki. It's not like I came here cursing at people. I really could care less if you are all so bent on going off on me for trying to get a minor detail fixed. I just thought if the site cared to list the information, it should pay attention to simple detail. [[User:Getsuei|Getsuei]] 05:26, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:It's the same sort of instance we went through with freaking Golbat. "no dude its blue i know because the pokeydex don't matter". That kind of bullcrap. Don't worry so damn much about Blue's hair. It's brown, a light shade of it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:28, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::It's also brown in his battle sprites. —[[User:Oz|'''オ''']][[User talk:Oz|'''ッ''']][[Special:Contributions/Oz|'''ズ''']] @ 05:30, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::The reason we care so much about it, is because ''you're'' the only one who disagrees in this conversation. THAT is why we're getting annoyed. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 05:31, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
cough déjā vū cough--[[User:Muk-a-matic|Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round...]] 05:33, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:Clearly it's not brown though. That's the whole point. I guess we should go to Misty's page and say it's just a bright shade of brown. And if it were stated somewhere his hair was brown, I wouldn't even try to change it. I'm not an idiot, I just happen to know something about redheads. Misty's hair looks pretty brown in her battle sprites too, does that mean her hair's brown. In artwork and in his profile it's orange, so because his battle sprites have slightly more brown hair you wanna call it brown. Quit avoiding the blatant fact he has a redhead tone of hair people. Also, if for example a room full of people told you Pikachu wasn't yellow, would that mean it was true? No, because it's obvious. [[User:Getsuei|Getsuei]] 05:34, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::What's funny about you comparing Misty and Blue, is that the dark parts of her hair are as dark as the light parts of his hair. It might not look like that until you compare them side by side, because the lighter colors of Misty's hair make the dark look darker. I know, because I mess around with colors all the time and sometimes confuse myself with them. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 05:38, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::What are you getting at? Just because their shades of orange aren't the same color that means his hair isn't orange? What are you even saying? [[User:Getsuei|Getsuei]] 05:39, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::You could say that Blue's hair in the artwork is bronze-coloured... It's not really orange, and it's not brown at the same time? —[[User:Oz|'''オ''']][[User talk:Oz|'''ッ''']][[Special:Contributions/Oz|'''ズ''']] @ 05:41, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::You are saying that his hair is basically the same as hers. It's not. I agree, his does look a bit orange, but not if you compare it to Misty's. Then it looks brown. And for me, hers could pass off as an orangy light brown until compared to an actual light brown. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 05:45, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

:The point is that people who are brunettes do not have orange in their hair naturally speaking. If you have orange in your hair you are a redhead. I'm a redhead, I know the facts about redheads. Burnt Orange, Orange Brown, whatever. The point is his hair isn't brown, it's clearly a shade of orange. Go to Princess Daisy's page on the mariowiki. You people probably think she's a brunette, but you're wrong. Her hair just happens to range in shades of dark and bright orange. Even stated by Nintendo her hair is orange. The point is you people are avoiding the fact that just because his hair isn't a blatant bright orange color, that he is not a brunette and his hair is not classifiable as brown. If you all really want to be so stubborn as to avoid something so obvious, fine. It's obvious if I could edit this page some moron would revert my edit anyway. Also, nice job responding to someone with flames when I didn't even act rude or "bitchy" in the first place. Now though, you people can decide on this situation for yourselves. Hope you base it on facts and not your uninformed opinions. [[User:Getsuei|Getsuei]] 05:47, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::You realize you just wrote a huge paragraph arguing over hair color right? Come on. Argue about something that actually matters. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:00, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
I thought Princess Daisy's hair was brown. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 00:18, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia error ==

"Blue is one of only two NPCs who has been both a Gym Leader and a Champion. The other is Wallace (though Wallace was a Gym Leader before becoming Champion, and Blue does the reverse). Both of them were the eighth Gym Leader and Champion of a region introduced in an odd-numbered generation." This is wrong as Blue wasn't a gym leader until gen 2 an even numbered generation.--[[User:Lycos Ex Mortis|Lycos Ex Mortis]] 07:20, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
:Refers to the region, not the character [[User:Super goku|Super goku]] 07:30, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

== Return ==

Given that Blue's Pokémon use Return in Generation IV, isn't it possible to calculate just how much his Pokémon love him?--[[User:Mongeese|Mongeese]] 22:53, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:Probably not, at least not exactly, since damage calculation has a random component. But their friendship level should be somewhere in the game code directly... if anyone knows where to look. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 01:21, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

== The use of Green? ==

Okay, we all know it's Blue in Generation IV by now. But his default name in FireRed is still his Japanese name, Green. Maybe the article should mention this in the FireRed / LeafGreen section? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] 04:21, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

== Disambiguation error ==

Blue is not a game, he's a game character. The disambiguation, "game", makes no sense. --[[User:Bilge|Bilge]] 23:37, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions

2010-04-08T11:46:27Z

Bilge: /* Intro */

{{Samename|the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]] expansion|HeartGold & SoulSilver (TCG)}}
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{{Infobox_game |
name = Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions |
boxart = [[File:Pokemon HeartGold Version box.jpg|200px]][[File:Pokemon_SoulSilver_Version_box.jpg|200px]] |
caption = Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions' boxart, [[version mascot|featuring]] {{p|Ho-Oh}} and {{p|Lugia}}. |
category = RPG |
players = 2 players simultaneous |
release_date_ja = September 12, 2009 |
release_date_na = March 14, 2010 |
release_date_eu = March 26, 2010 (Benelux: April 2, 2010) |
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'''Pokémon HeartGold Version''' (Japanese: '''ポケットモンスターハートゴールド''' ''Pocket Monsters HeartGold'') and '''Pokémon SoulSilver Version''' (Japanese: '''ポケットモンスターソウルシルバー''' ''Pocket Monsters SoulSilver'') are paired [[Generation IV]] {{wp|video game remake|remake}}s of the [[Generation II]] games {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}.

Much like {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}} revisited the [[Generation I]] story of [[Kanto]], HeartGold and SoulSilver retell the story of [[Johto]], with the player's starting area being [[New Bark Town]]. While the games feature several expansions in key areas, the overall plot follows the same direction as the original {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}. Some aspects exclusive to {{v2|Crystal}} are also included. Like FireRed and LeafGreen could link up with {{3v2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}} to complete the Pokédex by trading regionally exclusive Pokémon, HeartGold and SoulSilver can link up with {{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} to obtain Pokémon unavailable in Johto and Kanto, such as [[Starters#Sinnoh|the Sinnoh starters]].

{{ga|Kris}}, despite being the female counterpart of {{ga|Ethan|Crystal's player character}}, is not included as the female player character, with a {{ga|Lyra|new character}} instead taking her place. Whether she is chosen to be the [[player character]] or not, this new character will still appear in the game, taking a pseudo-[[rival]] role similar to the unselected characters of [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby, Sapphire]], {{v2|Emerald}}, {{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}.

The games were released on September 12, 2009 in Japan, February 4, 2010 in Korea, March 14, 2010 in North America, March 25, 2010 in Australia and March 26, 2010 in Europe (this excludes the Netherlands, Luxembourg and parts of Belgium due to an in-game save error, with the patched copies later released on April 2, 2010).

==Changes from Pokémon Gold and Silver==
===Aesthetic changes===
* The male [[player character]] receives a redesign and is now called {{ga|Ethan}}, while {{ga|Kris}} is replaced by a new female player character called {{ga|Lyra}}.
* All the game's music is rearranged to better utilize the DS's sound capabilities. A [[GB Sounds|key item]] allows the player to switch back and forth freely between the arranged soundtrack and original chiptune soundtrack.
* The [[Pokégear]] has been redesigned. There are a range of skins that can be used and changed at the player's will.
* Much like Kanto's was for its remakes, Johto's Pokédex has been redesigned. Unlike Kanto's remakes, which contained the same [[List of Pokémon by Kanto Pokédex number|regional Pokédex]] as the originals, [[List of Pokémon by New Pokédex number|the original regional Pokédex]] for Johto has been [[List of Pokémon by Johto Pokédex number|slightly altered]], including several [[Generation IV]] evolutions for Pokémon found in Johto.
* An image of certain locations, like in {{v2|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, appears when entering the location. Some of these images change depending on the time of day while others change the image of the Pokémon obtainable at the location on the image at random.
* [[Team Rocket Grunt]]s are redesigned once again.
* [[Rocket Executive]]s are also redesigned from Generation II, with four new ones appearing: [[Archer]], [[Arianna]], [[Petrel]], and [[Proton]]. Like [[Team Galactic]]'s [[Commander]]s followed a planetary naming scheme, the Rocket Executives are all named for various real-world rockets.
* {{p|Lugia}} and {{p|Ho-Oh}} each have their own unique battle music, while the [[legendary beasts]] each use differently remixed versions of their battle theme from {{game|Crystal}}.
* [[Kurt]] and [[Apricorn]]s make a return to the series along with their respective [[Poké Ball]]s. Apricorns can now be carried by the player in their own [[bag]] with a new item, the [[Apricorn Case]].
* All former Berry trees have become [[Apricorn]] trees.
* [[Gym Leader]]s, [[Elite Four]] members, {{ga|Silver}}, and {{ga|Red}} have animated battle sprites and battle intros, as in {{v2|Platinum}}. Many [[Gym]]s have been redesigned as well, some with new puzzles.
* {{m|Rock Smash}}, previously a TM usable on the field in the originals, is now a full-fledged HM as it has been since [[Generation III]]. {{m|Defog}} loses its HM status to the returning {{m|Whirlpool}}.
* Ambient sound effects are used with greater frequency than in previous games; for example, running water and the player walking through grass will produce audible noises.
* The [[Magnet Train]]'s tracks can be seen overground in locations such as [[Route 32]].
* [[Pal Park]] is located where the closed [[Kanto Safari Zone]] once stood in [[Fuchsia City]].
* The [[RageCandyBar]] is now a [[key item]]. This is likely to prevent the player from trading it to {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}, which does not have any item data for it.
* The player can now see how many Kanto badges they have. In the original games, the player could only see how many Johto Badges they had.
* [[Ecruteak City]] and [[Cianwood City]], while sharing a theme in Generation II, now feature separate remixed variations of the same theme.
* Some music in Kanto is changed, with [[Mt. Moon]] and the [[Seafoam Islands]] changing their music to that which is used by of Johto's [[Union Cave]] and [[Ice Path]], respectively. Music in Cerulean City and Fuchsia City, as well as on [[Route]]s {{rtn|24}} and {{rtn|25}}, rather than taking the theme used in Pewter City, Celadon City, and on {{rt|3}} as they did in the original Generation II games, keep the theme used in Generation I and Generation III. The music used on {{rt|2}}, however, is different from any previous generation; the Generation II theme, a remix of the Viridian Forest theme in Generation I, is used solely in Viridian Forest, while the theme used in Generation I and Generation III is, like in Generation II, only used on {{rt|1}}. Route 2 instead uses the theme that first appears on {{rt|3}}. [[Cinnabar Island]] also gets its own music, a remix of its original theme, instead of using the Saffron City theme.

===Location changes===
[[File:HGSS_JohtoKanto.jpg|thumb|200px|[[Johto]] and [[Kanto]], the accessible regions in HeartGold and SoulSilver]]
* Elm's Lab has an upstairs level, where [[Professor Elm|the professor]] and his family live, his old house being occupied by Lyra/Ethan and her/his family.
* The {{jo|Battle Tower}} west of [[Olivine City]], introduced in {{game|Crystal}}, returns, bringing with it the exact same {{OBP|Battle Frontier|Generation IV}} seen in Platinum.
* Two new routes, [[Route 47]] and [[Route 48]], are introduced near [[Cianwood City]]. They lead to a new [[Johto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]], as well as the [[Embedded Tower]].
* [[Mt. Silver]] is much bigger and [[Viridian Forest]] is not cut down.
* [[Cerulean Cave]] and the [[Seafoam Islands]] remain as they were in Generation III (though [[Blaine]] still takes part of the Seafoam Islands), allowing the [[legendary Pokémon]] that live inside them to be battled. {{p|Moltres}}, formerly found in {{ka|Victory Road}} and [[Mt. Ember]], can be found in Mt. Silver.
* The [[Fighting Dojo]] in [[Saffron City]] takes a role similar to Sinnoh's [[Battleground]].

===Gameplay changes===
* All 493 Pokémon are capable of [[walking Pokémon|following players]] similar to [[Red's Pikachu (game)|Pikachu]] in {{v2|Yellow}}. [[Shiny Pokémon|Shininess]] is also retained. The player can interact with their Pokémon by pressing 'A', and can see how their Pokémon is feeling at the moment. In battle, like Yellow's Pikachu, they are sent out from the side of the screen, rather than from a Poké Ball, unless in certain situations, such as while riding the [[bicycle]] or going into a small space with a big Pokémon.
* Similarly to the event {{p|Shaymin}} and {{p|Regigigas}}'s effect on Platinum, the [[Pikachu-colored Pichu]] will unlock an event near the [[Ilex Forest]] [[Ilex Forest Shrine|Shrine]], where the [[Spiky-Eared Pichu]] can be obtained.
* The [[Pokémon storage system]], [[bag]], [[party]] interface, and the screen that pops up when pressing the ''Start'' or ''X'' buttons in the previous games all use the Nintendo DS's touch screen.
* [[Legendary Pokémon]] from other regions can be caught in the games. {{p|Kyogre}} and {{p|Groudon}} appear in HeartGold and SoulSilver, respectively, after the Elite Four, and {{p|Rayquaza}} can be caught in both games once the other members of [[weather trio|its trio]] are traded into the game. {{p|Latias}} (in HeartGold) or {{p|Latios}} (in SoulSilver) can be found roaming in [[Kanto]] later in the game after speaking to [[Steven Stone]].
** The [[Mysterious Crystal]] is an [[Event item|Event key item]] that features a use similar to that of the [[Eon Ticket]]. It can get the other Eon Pokémon depending on the {{player|player's}} game version: Latias (in SoulSilver) and Latios (in HeartGold).
* {{m|Headbutt}}ing trees to locate certain Pokémon makes its return. However, this time it can also be used to collect Pokémon from [[Hoenn]] and [[Sinnoh]] after the [[National Pokédex]] is acquired.
* [[Cynthia]] makes an appearance in an event involving {{p|Arceus}}. This takes place in an area accessed from the [[Ruins of Alph]] that is far to the north, named the [[Sinjoh Ruins]]. This event allows players to obtain either {{p|Dialga}}, {{p|Palkia}}, or {{p|Giratina}} at level 1. The only way to obtain the [[Griseous Orb]] and Origin Forme Giratina in this game is to choose Giratina during this event.
* The {{OBP|Gracidea|flower}} can be obtained in the flower shop in [[Goldenrod City]] by bringing any [[fateful encounter]] {{p|Shaymin}} to show them.
* [[Eusine]], a major character from {{game|Crystal}} who was not in the original Gold and Silver, appears, as do other aspects originally featured in Crystal.
* A new sidequest, the [[Pokéathlon]], features ten mini-games that pit Pokémon in athletic competitions. Its system appears to be analogous to that of {{pkmn|Contests}} from previous games.
* [[Apricorn]]s are now the only items collected from plants on the field. [[Berry|Berries]] are instead collected from [[Juggler]]s in [[Violet City]] and [[Fuchsia City]] in exchange for [[shard]]s, or by the player's mother if the player decided to save up their money. Because only a few berries cannot be collected in these games, they must by traded over from other versions, similar to that of {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}.
* [[Berries]] can be grown portably using the [[Berry Planter]], where the [[Squirtbottle]] is controlled via the touch screen to water four Berries at a time. Berries can be found on the ground in some locations, held by wild Pokémon, with the Pokéwalker, and will be bought by the player's mom at times.
* Using the [[Apriblender]], Apricorns can now also be mixed into drinks that increase Pokémon's Pokéathlon stats.
* The [[Running Shoes]] are obtained in [[Cherrygrove City]] and can be permanently selected using the touchscreen [[menu]]. The selected item (from pressing Y or SELECT in previous games) is also on the touchscreen. Two items can be selected as opposed to just one.
* Due to the absence of the [[Vs. Seeker]], the [[Pokégear]] reintroduces an improved cell phone feature with a limitless call list. However, re-battling trainers is now dependent on the day and time.
* The [[Radio Card]] for the Pokégear is required to continue in the game - Whitney will not return to her Gym until the player has the Radio Card.
* [[Starter Pokémon]] from [[Kanto]] and [[Hoenn]] can be collected from [[Professor Oak]] and [[Steven Stone]] once certain conditions are met.
* [[Photography|Commemorative photos]] can now be taken around Johto and Kanto with the player's partner Pokémon, team, [[Gym Leader]]s, and certain notable citizens.
* An {{pkmn2|event}}-exclusive {{p|Celebi}} unlocks an encounter with former [[Team Rocket]] boss and Viridian Gym Leader [[Giovanni]]. Giovanni was mentioned repeatedly in the original Gold and Silver, but did not appear.
* Many Pokémon have acquired the ability to learn new moves and expand and improve their movesets; for example, {{p|Togepi}} can now learn {{m|Extrasensory}} through breeding.
* Like the [[Game Boy Advance Wireless Adapter|GBA Wireless Adapter]] that came with FireRed and LeafGreen, a bonus is included with the purchase of HeartGold and SoulSilver: a [[Poké Ball]]-shaped {{wp|pedometer}} called the [[Pokéwalker]] that has the capacity to link to the two games and hold a Pokémon. Storing a Pokémon in this manner increases its [[experience]] and [[happiness]] as the wearer walks. Other Pokémon can be captured in exclusive Pokéwalker-only areas and then transferred to the main game.
* The [[GB Sounds]], a key item obtained after all 16 badges have been obtained, allows players to swap the background music for the soundtrack from the original Gold and Silver, redone. New music tracks, such as the music that plays on Routes 47 and 48, also receive an 8-bit remix. However, not every track got an 8-bit remix and some can only be listened through the [[Pokémon Past Archive]] radio station in the Pokégear.
* When using the move {{m|Whirlpool}} outside of battle, instead of the whirlpool disappearing like in [[Generation II]], the player will simply surf over the whirlpools.
* Specific [[individual values]] may be passed down through {{pkmn|breeding}} depending on the [[EV-enhancing item]] that is held.
* The Trainers that appear in Viridian City's [[Trainer House]] are now influenced by communication through two Pokéwalkers as opposed to the previous method of Mystery Gifting with the Game Boy Color's infrared port.
* During the player's initial battle with the rival, he is known as Passerby Boy, unlike in Gold and Silver, where he was identified as ???. Players are still required to name him later.
* When the player makes it all the way through the [[Bell Tower]] or [[Whirl Islands]], instead of simply encountering Ho-Oh{{sup|HG}} or Lugia{{sup|SS}}, respectively, the player must talk to the [[Kimono Girl]]s who will summon the [[version mascot]] with a dance.

==Pokémon==
As in {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}, the primary Pokémon of the remakes are native to the Johto and Kanto regions. Due to advances in gameplay since the second generation, the regional Pokédex used in Gold and Silver (the [[List of Pokémon by New Pokédex number|New Pokédex]]) has been updated to include those Pokémon which [[evolution|evolve]] upon learning a new [[move]]. Rather than simply excluding these evolutions (as {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}} did with [[happiness]]-based evolutions), an improved [[List of Pokémon by Johto Pokédex number|Johto Pokédex]] was established with 256 Pokémon: five more than the New Pokédex.

Similarly to other recently released Pokémon games, Pokémon from outside the regional Pokédex can be captured after defeating the [[Elite Four]] and earning the [[List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number|National Pokédex]]. Pokémon native to Sinnoh and Hoenn can be found in various methods. [[Mass Outbreak|Swarms]] of Pokémon sometimes break out across the Johto and Kanto regions; oftentimes these are not native to either of the regions. Pokémon from other regions can be located by playing one of two special stations on the [[PokéGear]]'s radio function. There is a channel for Sinnoh Pokémon which plays only on Thursdays; the Hoenn channel only plays on Wednesdays. By having either of these programs turned on when in [[tall grass]] the chance of finding a foreign Pokémon increases. The [[Bug Catching Contest]] also hosts, from time to time, Hoenn and Sinnoh Pokémon. They will only appear on Thursdays and Saturdays. The [[Johto Safari Zone]]'s customization option also allows for the finding of Pokémon from other regions.

In an apparent attempt to remove reliance on [[Generation III]] cartridges, [[starter Pokémon]] of Kanto and Hoenn can be obtained late in the game from [[Professor Oak]] and [[Steven Stone]] respectively. Some [[legendary Pokémon]] which were not included in the [[Generation II]] games, such as the [[legendary birds|legendary birds trio]] and {{p|Mewtwo}}, are also available.

Despite being remakes of Pokémon Gold and Silver, most of the wild Pokémon encounter data is identical to Pokémon Crystal, with the exception of version-exclusive Pokémon and a select few routes.

As in all [[version|main series]] Pokémon games, there are a number of Pokémon which can be found in [[Version-exclusive Pokémon|one of the paired games, but not the other]]. A list of these Pokémon follows below.
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{{Moveentrytm|056|Mankey|1|Fighting}}
{{Moveentrytm|057|Primeape|1|Fighting}}
{{Moveentrytm|058|Growlithe|1|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|059|Arcanine|1|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|167|Spinarak|2|Bug|Poison}}
{{Moveentrytm|168|Ariados|2|Bug|Poison}}
{{Moveentrytm|207|Gligar|2|Ground|Flying}}
{{Moveentrytm|226|Mantine|2|Water|Flying}}
{{Moveentrytm|231|Phanpy|1|Ground|}}
{{Moveentrytm|232|Donphan|1|Ground|}}
{{Moveentrytm|302|Sableye|2|Ghost|Dark}}
{{Moveentrytm|343|Baltoy|2|Ground|Psychic}}
{{Moveentrytm|344|Claydol|2|Ground|Psychic}}
{{Moveentrytm|382|Kyogre|1|Water}}
{{Moveentrytm|458|Mantyke|2|Water|Flying}}
{{Moveentrytm|472|Gliscor|2|Ground|Flying}}
|}
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{| align="center" style="background: #{{soulsilver color}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 3px solid #{{soulsilver color light}};"
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! SoulSilver
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{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{soulsilver color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
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{{Moveentrytm|037|Vulpix|1|Fire|}}
{{Moveentrytm|038|Ninetales|1|Fire|}}
{{Moveentrytm|052|Meowth|1|Normal|}}
{{Moveentrytm|053|Persian|1|Normal|}}
{{Moveentrytm|165|Ledyba|2|Bug|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|166|Ledian|2|Bug|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|225|Delibird|2|Ice|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|227|Skarmory|2|Steel|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|216|Teddiursa|1|Normal}}
{{Moveentrytm|217|Ursaring|1|Normal}}
{{Moveentrytm|303|Mawile|1|Steel}}
{{Moveentrytm|316|Gulpin|1|Poison}}
{{Moveentrytm|317|Swalot|1|Poison}}
{{Moveentrytm|383|Groudon|1|Ground}}
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==Gallery==
<gallery perrow=4>
File:HGSSstarters.gif|Choosing a [[starter Pokémon]]
File:Startmenu.gif|The redesigned touch screen menu, as well as the three starters shown with the player character
File:HGSSpokedex.png|The redesigned [[Pokédex]]
File:Screen3.png|Outside the [[Burned Tower]]
File:Screen5.png|[[Sprout Tower]]
File:Shiny Pichu HGSS event.png|[[Spiky-Eared Pichu]] event
File:Goldandsoul.png|{{ga|Ethan}} and {{ga|Lyra}} in New Bark Town. "Yeah! How about you show your mom, too?"
File:Rival Battle Eng HGSS.png|Ethan vs. Silver in the English versions
File:Elmslab.png|Inside Professor Elm's laboratory
File:Red Gyarados encounter HGSS.png|Encountering [[Red Gyarados]]
File:HeartGold title.png|HeartGold title screen
File:SoulSilver title.png|SoulSilver title screen
File:Heartgold_soulsilver_preorder_figures.jpg|HeartGold & SoulSilver pre-order figures
File:Pokewalker.png|The Pokéwalker
File:Ho oh in Heartgold.png|Ho-Oh in HeartGold
File:Lugia in SoulSilver.png|Lugia in SoulSilver
</gallery>

==Trivia==
* Like {{game|Platinum}}, these games will include the preorder figure. If one preorders HeartGold, they will receive {{p|Ho-Oh}}, and if they preorder SoulSilver, they will receive {{p|Lugia}}.
* The Japanese release date is the same day that {{game|Yellow}} was released in 1998.
* These games mark the tenth anniversary since the release of the original {{2v|Gold|Silver}} for [[Game Boy Color]].
* As remakes, these games have been [[Pokémon Gold and Silver remake speculation|speculated]] since the release of {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}.
* The games' engine seems to be based on that of {{game|Platinum}}.
* As {{2v2|Gold|Silver}} were considered sequels to {{2v2|Red|Green}}, HeartGold and SoulSilver are thus sequels to {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}.
** Also like FireRed and LeafGreen, HeartGold and SoulSilver implement features introduced in their namesakes' third version (though the only major change from Red and Green to [[Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|Blue]] was the alteration of the [[catch rate]]s of several Pokémon, itself retained since Blue, whereas {{game|Crystal}} featured several notable differences).
* These games were released in Japan almost exactly one year after the Japanese release of {{game|Platinum}}, being released the day before the anniversary.
* The font used for the English titles of these games are different than the font that has been used since {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}, while the Japanese logos are still in the same style used since those games. FireRed and LeafGreen also used a different font than the Hoenn games, however, it was still the same color.
** Additionally, the Ho-Oh crest shaped like a heart and Lugia soul are used in the English logos, while the fire and leaf that appear on FireRed and LeafGreen's Japanese logos were not used in the English release.
* These games mark the first time that the English versions were announced before the games themselves came out in Japan.
* Because of [[HM05]]'s conversion from {{m|Defog}} to {{m|Whirlpool}}, these games are the only games in which all available HMs teach damaging moves (both Defog and Flash, contained in HM05, prevented this in previous games).
* Unlike {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, most [[Trainer class]]es keep their {{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} sprites in battle.
* These are the first games in which major characters offer their Pokémon for a trade with the player, with [[Gym Leader]]s [[Brock]], [[Lt. Surge]], and [[Jasmine]] and [[Hoenn]]'s former champion [[Steven Stone]] offering Pokémon of their specialty type in exchange for another.
** These are the first games in which an in-game trade accepts any Pokémon of any gender, with Jasmine accepting such in exchange for her Steelix.
* Unlike how {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}'s intro was an updated version of the opening from {{2v2|Red|Green}}, HeartGold and SoulSilver have an entirely new intro, using none of the footage from the intro of {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}. The intro however, uses some music that was in the original and the title screen displays 3D renders of Ho-Oh and Lugia in movement similar to the original title screens.
* HeartGold and SoulSilver include the [[champion]]s from each of the paired versions: {{ga|Blue}} from {{2v2|Red|Green}}, [[Lance]] from {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}, [[Steven Stone]] from {{2v2|Ruby|Sapphire}}, and [[Cynthia]] from {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}.
* In HeartGold and SoulSilver, it is possible to obtain all of the [[version mascots]] of the [[main series]] games.
* The credits of HeartGold and SoulSilver are the first to feature [[Gym Leader]]s, [[Elite Four]] members and [[villainous teams|villainous team]] members.
* Most "eyecatches" for the locations feature a Pokémon that is able to be caught in said location.
* There's a minor quirk involving the Poké Mart signs, in which they are sometimes shown to be placed ''on'' the edges of trees, making it appear as if it was built there.
* All original eight [[Gym Leader]]s of Kanto appear in HeartGold and SoulSilver. [[Koga]] and [[Giovanni]] are no longer Leaders, instead having other roles in the games.
* The Pokédex entries for the Pokémon that existed in Gold and Silver are carried on over to HeartGold and SoulSilver, respectively, much as how FireRed used the entries from the Japanese Red and Green while LeafGreen used the entries from Blue.
* HeartGold and SoulSilver had the quickest translation from Japanese to Korean in the entire history of the series. Gold and Silver, their namesakes, took the longest to be translated into the language, taking nearly three years.
**This also makes these games the first in the entire series to be released in South Korea '''before''' it was released in North America.
** Curiously, Gold and Silver were the only Pokémon games before Generation IV to be released in South Korea.
* {{game|Crystal}} had unique battle theme music for the [[legendary beasts|legendary beast]] encounters. The theme was shared between the three Pokémon; three rearranged versions exist—one for every beast—in HeartGold and SoulSilver.
* HeartGold and SoulSilver are the first main series games to have the English title in other language titles. The reason for this is unknown.
* {{wp|Postcards from the Wedge|An episode}} of {{wp|The Simpsons}} that aired for the first time on March 14, 2010, the release date of the games in North America, shows {{wp|Bart Simpson|Bart}} watching the [[Pokémon anime]]. He questions how the show has managed to stay so "fresh" over the years.
* In the Japanese versions of Gold and Silver, Phanpy and Donphan were exclusive to Gold, and Teddiursa and Ursaring were exclusive to Silver. In international versions of Gold and Silver, this was switched for unknown reasons: Teddiursa and Ursaring could be found in Gold, and Phanpy and Donphan could be found in Silver instead. However, ''all'' versions of HeartGold and SoulSilver have Phanpy/Donphan in HeartGold and Teddiursa/Ursaring in SoulSilver, making this inconsistent with international versions of Gold and Silver.
* In-game dialogue makes reference to popular internet memes, such as Silver saying "''{{wp|Joker (comics)#The Dark Knight|why so serious?}}''" in one of the battles against him, and after winning the [[Bug-Catching Contest]], a contestant saying "''{{wp|Pro Wrestling (Nintendo Entertainment System)|You won? A winner is you?}}''".

===In other languages===
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|it=Pokémon Versione Oro HeartGold e Versione Argento SoulSilver
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==External links==
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* [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/game/g090508_01.html Official Japanese Announcement]
* [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/HeartGold,_SoulSilver_announced_for_America_and_Europe Official English Announcement]
* [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game/ds/hgss/ Official Japanese Site]
** [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/ Official Japanese Sub-site]
* [http://www.pokemon.com/us/games/videogame-pokemontm-heartgold-and-soulsilver-versions/ Official English Site]

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==Hey==

Yay I made first comment!--'''[[User:MysteryHeff?|MysteryHeff?]]''' [[User Talk:MysteryHeff?|TALK]] 03:57, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
:There's a policy for {{Bulbapedia|Talk abuse}} you know. - '''[[User talk:EspeonA|esp]][[Special:Contributions/EspeonA|eon]][[User:EspeonA|A]]''' 04:01, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
::''Chocolate is my friend...sort of...uh...and I do not want to take position in his poll cuz it's just too biased...and, yeah, I'm not against him or for him leaving...I just want things to be peaceful...it's like the big fuzz with the custom sprites...jeez...it just gets on my nerves. Seriously, this is the internet, not a place to argue and stuff.''..yeah....that's what I said on your archives.--☆Tavisource 03:42, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
:::It's fine...no worries...you're making me feel guilty.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 04:09, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

== Umm... ==

How do I put this? You're only allowed 4 edits on userspace, including subpages... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 06:33, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:admins get free edits. :D -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 06:37, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
::Serious? .... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 06:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:::yes, and evkl is more than a an admin, hes sort of a former Editor-in-Cheif and pretty much #2 in the BP grand scheme. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 06:42, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Curse you, admins and your powers. lol, jks -- [[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 06:39, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Alignment fix, first off...secondly, this is kind of a hard discussion to step into....Awkward. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 06:47, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::It's just a misunderstanding... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 06:50, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Yes, true. So what are you working on about the new rules and priorities?--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 06:58, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::::We get free edits because we use our pages for potential policies, tentative templates, and may-be mainspace pages. And some user crap. We tend to keep the user crap to a minimum, though there are some leftovers.
::::::::Just wait though. Things will be changing soon enough, so keep watch on the Main Page! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:05, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Oooo, I can't wait. Is this going to be about Project Overgrowth--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 07:09, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Re: my talk ==

Yes, I am very interested about this. But i'm just worried that I won't have enough time on my hand, with school and all. But I'm I can help. --[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 07:12, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks! I'll get back to you, ASAP.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 07:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Number Redirect ==

493 numbers done! Should we follow up on the anime? I'll wait for your answer--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]-[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 08:38, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
:Woo, good job, FF! If the anime are the only things past 493, we only need redirects and not disambigs though, right? — [[User:Laoris|Laoris]] ([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]]) 08:48, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
:: Depends if manga surpasses 493--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]-[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 09:05, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
:::But the manga doesn't pass like 373. BTW sorry about stuffing up the whole before. --[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 09:23, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
:::: We could always change it.--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]-[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 09:34, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::True. And also when Generation V of Pokemon comes out. --[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 09:37, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Redirects aren't needed, the rest should just be forgotten until generation 5. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 13:54, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Also, Pokémon Special rounds only go up to 379 ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 13:57, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::: So that means....... OH FU-, We have to get rid of the Special in between 380-493? Great Mav, Just Great--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]-[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 13:59, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::::: Er, yeah, I never intended for us to link up a lot of things which don't exist. Sorry if you got the wrong impression... -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 15:32, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== ... ==

Hey man, sorry for getting so worked up last night about the GSDS thing. I was just so tired and I've had a crappy time the past few days. I just didn't mean to attack you like that. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 23:22, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== Forum ==

I was thinking about making a forum just about Bulbapedia. I know we have BMGf but this one's JUST for Bulbapedia. Do you want me to make it?--[[User:Metagross72|Metagross72]] 23:31, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== No thanks ==

I'll keep my opinion to myself, as I am but a humble (or not) user, and I seriously doubt myview on which admins are performing up to par and which aren't will matter, and saying such will gain myself another enemy and you will brand me as a whiner.--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Mock Me]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]] 00:22, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:then ill try to catch you on aim.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Mock Me]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]] 05:30, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

== Administrator Status ==

In order to keep our Administrator list currently up-to-date, this is a generic "are you there" message.

You've been assumed as currently active and are already marked as such, but if you disagree with this, either edit the [[Bulbapedia:Administrators#List_of_administrators|List of administrators]] to reflect your status (Active, Hiatus, Inactive), or reply here when you get the chance. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 16:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:Quite generic, as I was in the typical staff chat last night. Of course I'm here. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 16:17, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
::Generic is my middle name. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 16:18, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

== [[BP:COC]] ==

Hey evkl, since you came up with the Code of Conduct, I figured I should let you know about this. {{u|MAGNEDETH}} is coming to my talk page and yelling at me when I'm making ''useful'' edits. I told him to follow the code and be nice, but he won't listen. Yes, he's an admin, but so are you, and you've been an admin for way longer than him. Do you think you could talk to him about this? [[User:0 Degrees|0]][[User talk:0 Degrees|°]] 18:52, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

== {{bp|Project Games}} ==

I would like to be the leader of this project. I came to know that you were among the persons to go to in this regard from [[Bulbapedia:Project Leaders|this page]]. What do I have to do in this regard to become a project leader of this project? On a different note, I would like to have a private conversation with you regarding the behavior of an admin of Bulbapedia in the forums.--''[[User:Sher-e-Bengal|Sher]]-e-[[User_talk:Sher-e-Bengal|Bengal]]''- 11:33, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

== Don't Worry ==

I'm ignoring him now. ''[[User:ShinjiLover|シンジ]]'''''[[Paul|Shinji]]'''[[User talk:ShinjiLover|Lover]],'''[[Special:Contributions/ShinjiLover|Edits]]''' 00:16, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

== Edit Warring ==

It was only my second war, as they were two pages for the same reason. Why are admin all of a sudden messing with Bulbapedia norms and/or regulations?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 16:37, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Let me teach you a bit of history. World War II had an Asian front and a European front. However, they ARE THE SAME WAR! Same thing with the edit wars, 2 fronts, but still the same war. So unless you want us to wait for World War IV, then listen to me, and see my validity--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:55, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

I move that "Edit Wars" now be called "Edit Battles", to avoid any confusion. Seconded? --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 21:28, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

== Compromising ==
I DID take it to the talk pages, and I stated my grounds. The only reason that stopped is because the other user hasn't responded back since before the fourth. [[User:Fossilgojira|Fossilgojira]] 14:35, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
:People have lives, they have other things to do besides go to Bulbapedia. '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 14:38, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
::I'm well aware of that, but this individual was certainly heated enough to keep up the pace for over two days, so this IS an issue for them. [[User:Fossilgojira|Fossilgojira]] 15:19, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

== I know you were just doing your job... ==

But thanks for unblocking me when the IP block for that one user went haywire. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 18:49, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

:Thank you, ''thank you'', '''''thank you'''''. (continues to spam talk page with thank-yous) --'''[[User:Alpha Totodile|Alpha]][[User talk:Alpha Totodile|Toto]][[Special:Contributions/Alpha Totodile|dile]]''' 18:54, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

::Same here! [[User:PH1RESTRIKE| |>H1|23]][[Special:contributions/PH1RESTRIKE|•]][[User talk:PH1RESTRIKE|57R1K3]] 18:55, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

== I know you told me not to use the autoblock... ==

However, a persistent Grawp vandal had come on and started vandalizing. I blocked one account with autoblock disabled as you instructed. A sockpuppet was created, and I knew that I had to take a gamble on the autoblock. If it stops this vandal wave, as far as I'm concerned, the pros outweigh the cons in this situation. I hope you understand.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Shiningpikablu252}} ([[User talk:Shiningpikablu252|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Shiningpikablu252|contribs]]) 13:50, 19 May 2009''
:I'm pretty sure autoblock blocks '''every single user''' on the 'pedia. That's why I didn't want you to use it. If they resolved the IP issue, it's no problem, but if they haven't everyone's locked out at the moment except 'powerful' people. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 18:55, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

::Yes, I know. As far as I know, though, exploiting the autoblock problems may have been the only way to stop what could have been a vandal epidemic. We all know Grawp is a very notorious wiki vandal, and if I hadn't decied to try to exploit the autoblock problems, we could have ended up with sockpuppet after sockpuppet doing nothing but vandalize, resulting in far worse headaches than the autoblock problems. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:58, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Follow Evkl's advice. Autoblock will not prevent me from extracting lulz from this shit fanboi haven. [[User:Very notorious wiki vandal|Very notorious wiki vandal]] 19:04, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
::::OH NOES YOU'LL EXTRACT MY LULZ! But seriously, pal, you're boring to us. If it makes you feel tingly in special places to vandalize wikis, well, there are fetishes for everything, but leave us alone. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 19:08, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::I enjoy ræping this Wiki. I will not leave until I am satisfied. [[User:PikachuAsh901|PikachuAsh901]] 19:16, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::Aw, cute, you know how to use dirty words. Go back to the playground, where they're cool. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 19:20, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

== Archives Login Error ==

Hi, I need to get into the archives to load up some photos for some articles that don't have photos and I keep getting this error: "Login error
There is no user by the name "MasterKenobi". Check your spelling." I am using the same username and password but it will not let me in. Could you please help me out? Thanks. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 16:27, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:"You can now log in to any Bulbagarden wiki without creating a new account; the same username and password will work on Bulbapedia, Bulbanews, and Bulbagarden Archives." I tried logging into the archives after seeing this and it didn't work. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 21:41, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

==Help==

Ketsuban banned me forever on the forums because he doesnt like me. When I go to Login it says, you have been banned reason "Bye!!!" date ban will be lifted "Never"
And I got an email from him saying he's given me 1000 non-expiring infraction points. Please help me, can you do something, he swears at me on Aim, and now he's doing all this to me. 1000 points is just crazy, I apologised for everything, Kasumi said she forgave me, then 2 days later hes banned me. What happened, Ketsuban has gone rogue [[User:Max King|Max King]] 17:48, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Can you at least ask her then what I did to deserve a permanent ban? [[User:Max King|Max King]] 18:10, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

What request? I didn't know she had asked me to do anything? Where did she put it? I would never be insubordinate. I promise [[User:Max King|Max King]] 10:44, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
:Its not a lie, its the truth, she swore at me on Aim many many times. I reported her and she said no one will believe me. What was I meant to do? Just take all that abuse and not dare report it because I'd get a permaban? That is so unfair. Max King 17:31, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Retrieved from "http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Max_King"

==hi==

i got a lot of messages because of those edits...wow...could you check my talk now? i put in a message specifying why i was doing that.
--[[User:FinalFlygon122|FinalFlygon122]] 03:20, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
oh and by the way, how do you add those tags to your user page? remember, i'm new to this.
--[[User:FinalFlygon122|FinalFlygon122]] 03:33, 27 July 2009 (UTC) Pokémon Forever! btw i'm ♀

==Thanks==
Thank you for the advice, ill try to keep those updatenumbers minimum ;) [[User:Agentti.agentti|Agentti.agentti]] 14:09, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== Playing nice ==

Playing nice doesn't work. Not to mention that I didn't say anything rude to Capsule Computer. Just some truth that he plays a local know-it-all and plays a butthurt after someone tells truth to him. That's nothing insulting, if he felt offended - that's his thing. And it's not about "agreeing" or "not agreeing". I can't agree with false information. And if anyone should apologize, it's him - for underestimating the years of my research. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 09:30, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:The most important rule of Bulbapedia - Doesn't matter WHAT you say, but HOW you say it. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 11:18, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

==The LX Page==

Hey.

Long time no talk, Ev. It's LX. Not that I care or anything, but I was wondering why the Ledian_X page was deleted. I'm just asking because someone told me there was a 404 in one of the links to my profile over at the Channel Awesome wiki where I hang my hat now. I'd have IMed you on AIM. But, I don't have your screenname now. Just wondering why it was deleted. That's all. We should catch up on stuff as I have some wiki related questions to ask you. Thanks in advance, LedianX.

[[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 20:05, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:It was decided that a page on every admin was not necessary. You're not the only one who had their page deleted. So I've seen anyway. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:50, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah. I noticed the Damian Silverblade page was deleted, too. Just call it curiosity since I had a broken link on my wiki page at the other place. I don't care wither way. I would like Pokemon FanworX deleted, too. The site doesn't work and I'm never bringing that back. So, if you could, please delete it. [[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 21:54, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

:Taken care of. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 21:57, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I probably should have deleted the page ages ago. Good work. Everything's in order and I've removed the other link. I do mention BMG, though. =D [[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 22:06, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah, everyone kind of got to the rationale--I was out for the afternoon. I've been good, though--if your screen name is the same I'll catch up with you the next time I'm on. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 22:18, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

My screen name is still CferraLX. IM me sometime! [[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 22:43, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

== Please protect these 2 templates: ==

*[[Template:Rdexh]]
*[[Template:Cdexh]]
They are in high use and vandalism can cause issues to a large number of high-bandwidth articles. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 16:49, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

== why... ==
because you get warned for editing your Userspace too much(really, unless it fills the recent changes, is there really such a thing as editing the Userspace too much?), and if you continue you get your Userspace Locked, and you can't edit, plus your restricted on what you can put(besides the porn that should stay restricted) that's why --[[User:Cookiezard|Cookiezard]] 20:53, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

:If there wasn't so many Templates, i would've been able to do less edits >_> --[[User:Cookiezard|Cookiezard]] 21:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

== Home Page ==

I would just like to point out that, under '''Current Events''' on the Home Page, Where it says that the 142nd Episode of D/P is coming out featuring Togepi. Togepi, however, is misspelled "Togepy", and if you could alter that, thank you.

Nothing major, just soemthing I noticed that bugs me.

[[User:MasterBall|MasterBall]] 18:50, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:That's not a misspelling, that's Togepi's Japanese name in Romaji. Bulbanews uses the Romaji names when they report about Japanese stuff such as new episodes. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 18:51, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

== Re:Skyridge set ==

thanks for the reply ^^ i see a lot of missing pics in the set, because of this i wanted to register and help ^^ if there are other sets needing help, i'm here =)

oh, i'm going to remember that. i'm gonna talk to him today, but other time... here is 01:22 AM. and thx for the tip, i need see the manual =P--[[User:Rukasu|Rukasu]] 04:23, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== Why not... ==

...restore {{red link|Sonichu}} and move it into the userspace? --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:29, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:Not really a fan of a page that bashes gays. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 02:31, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== Re: Fake Pages ==

I would like you to know that Sonichu is a REAL Pokemon. I know, because I have over 9 years of canon from him and his world, and have been in talks with Nintendo to put Sonichu and Rosechu into animal crossing, and have been in talk with Sega to make a Sonichu video game. Please consider this. Thank you. I will dare to keep my dreams alive. --[[User:CWCSonichuChandler|CWCSonichuChandler]] 02:33, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:Well, don't put it in the mainspace. --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:34, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== The Sonichu Freak ==

Block him. --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:12, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== Kenji ==

Kenji-girl has deleted my page because she doesn't like me. She told me to make less edits, a few weeks ago, since then, I have only made 1 edit to the page, and she deleted my page. Can she do this? I really want my page back, I'm making sure I behave, as I don't want to get banned here and lose my page, now she's taken my page, even though I've done nothing wrong. [[User:Max King|Max King]] 16:10, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:I did NOT! TTEchinda told me to block you forever. I thought you wouldn't be needing your page anymore. God... Do you honestly think I'm that pathetic? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:06, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== Huh. ==

TTE's gone, so I think that you're the right person to report that. [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:AshMonferno.png See what one of your your trusted admins does!] Using banned users as scapegoats is like the most pathetic thing that an admin can do. If normal user did it, he'd be permabanned for that. And I'm not questioning anyone's authority. Just reporting the thing that bothered me. And I realize that it's pretty old (I just returned from holidays). But seeing that the image is still there, I assume that the issue hasn't been settled. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 07:21, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
:It's the image that was offensive. It said "Kuki is a stupid hotlinker with pregnancy fetish" or something like that (there was more, I don't recall everything and it was uploaded by Ketsuban. Hell, I should have taken a screenshot of it. I should've known that she'd delete it. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:58, 26 August 2009 (UTC) UPDATE: It's actually CoolPikachu who deleted it. He'll confirm that.
::So, you say that it was RIGHT that Ketsuban discouraged Kuki like that? Of course, he's a hotlinker and that is wrong but it is still OFFENSIVE and hence UNACCEPTABLE. Aren't we in Bulbapedia supposed to play nice? The rule should apply to admins as well. And it certainly wasn't nice. Ketsuban did something that a normal user would get permabanned for, yet you're PRAISING her. It's completely unfair. However, congratulations in admitting that Bulbapedia admins are above the hereby law. You've got the courage to say the truth. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 20:04, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Regardless of whether I like the current law or not, Ketsuban broke it. I see it as a reason to question her fitness to be an admin. There are different ways to prevent hotlinking, the one that Ket chose was simply offensive. And no, I am not defending Kuki. I'm just saying that offending ANY user (even a banned one) is wrong. This method of discourage hotlinking is simply unacceptable (even in my CoCless Bulbapedia ideal offensive pictures are strictly prohibited) and should not be practiced. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 20:16, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Ket already committed enough crimes (on the forums, of course, she barely does anything on the Pedia) to get permabanned. Indeed, she speaks her mind a lot. And it's something that I usually get warned/banned for (because of CoC). She is just as "harsh" as me. The difference is that she's an admin, and hence she's more respected and her offences are often ignored. Nice or not, she abuses her powers strongly and it's an undeniable fact. If you don't see that, then you're blinded by your "trust" in her. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 06:33, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Maxim, I agree with everything you say in this instance, she also lies to her fellow admins to avoid herself getting into trouble, and there is no reasoning with her, she has no compasion, and I think she does it to satisfy her thirst for power. And all the other admins tell her they trust her 100% and stuff like that, and she then goes and breaks the rules, and no one seems to care and it creates a very much "us and them" situation which contradicts the statement about Bulbagarden being a community. Maxim I salute you. [[User:Max King|Max King]] 19:38, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

== just interested.... ==

I am currently (trying to anyways) to make a wiki (which i really suck at). however, it doesnt allow me to use html coding, is how can you make it so that it can read html? ---> [[User:223david|'''223''']][[Special:Contributions/223david|☆]][[User talk:223david|'''Dåv]d''']]''' 15:02, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

== Protected Page Policy ==

Hi there, I was just wondering about what Bulbapedia's policy is on contributing to Protected Pages. The policy seems to apply to just adding or changing content, but I wanted to expand on [[Chuck]]'s Pokemon Special section and can't think of a way to suggest it on the Talk page without writing up my proposed paragraph for that section there. Is this what one should do in this situation or is there an alternative that Bulbapedia prefers? Thanks. --[[User:TintedLens|TintedLens]] 12:13, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

== Help with the message ==
Hi again evkl! How do you archive things? I'm stuck. --[[User:FinalFlygon122|FinalFlygon122]] 15:18, 9 November 2009 (UTC) Pokémon Forever!

how do you make new talk pages? I cannot find how. --[[User:FinalFlygon122|FinalFlygon122]] 17:06, 9 November 2009 (UTC) Oops, forgot to sign!

==I need help==
I need help to report someone for cursing on my talk page.--[[User:Crazylegs24]] 21:42, 14 February 2010 (UCT)

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