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Talk:Paniola Ranch

2016-12-16T03:35:35Z

AndyPKMN:

Can somebody explain why English is the only language where the Ranch is not named Ohala ? {{unsigned|Geographik0903}}
:Paniola is the Hawaiian word for cowboy. I don't know why specifically the English version opted for a different name, but there are plenty of inconsistencies like that throughout the series—unless some sort of official interview points to the reasoning I don't think it's worth speculating about. —[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 03:35, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Spirit Shackle (move)

2016-12-12T02:18:41Z

AndyPKMN:

The trailer showed this move against a Ghost Oricorio, I had assumed that hinted this move could trap Ghost types as well? [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 20:34, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

== Variations of this Move ==

A Move that attacks and prevents Pokemon from Fleeing or Switching out. Both Spirit Shackle and Anchor Shot does the same thing. [[User:Wolfgerlion64|Wolfgerlion64]] ([[User talk:Wolfgerlion64|talk]]) 00:54, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
:Anchor Shot has 10 PP more than Spirit Shackle, and as such they don't technically qualify as variations according to Bulbapedia's standards. —[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 02:18, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Rival

2016-12-11T16:17:53Z

AndyPKMN: /* Gladion */

==Jun==
Jun why isn't Jun included in this article seeing how he is the main Rival in Diamond and Pearl {{unsigned|DSDark}}

:He is, there's just no sprite of him uploaded yet. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 03:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

::Aren't some of those characters "PKMN Trainers" and not "Rivals?" -[[User:Happy Mask Man|Happy Mask Man]] 00:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Are Dawn and Lucas really considered rivals? You never battle them, and most of the time their Pokemon aren't as strong as yours. {{unsigned|Dozla}}

== Question ==

Is there a reason we are not showing May and Brendan's sprites? They are rivals aren't they? --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:38, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

== Wally CAN weaken! ==

Interestingly, if the player's starter is Treeko, then Wally ''will'' be supereffective against the player's starter. As everyone knows, Psychic>Grass.[[User:Kirbysaur|Kirbysaur]] 22:36, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
:No, Psychic is not super effective against Grass. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 22:39, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
:No, it's not. Psychic is 1x against Grass. If you compared this to a {{type|Psychic}} and {{p|Bulbasaur}}, that would be the case as Bulbasaur is part {{type|Poison}}. Treecko is only Grass, therefore it doesn't apply. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 22:40, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
::Oops, I guess I had accidentally mistaken Treeko for a Grass/Poison type. Sorry. [[User:Kirbysaur|Kirbysaur]] 16:38, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:::It can weaken... If someone starts with Torchic and decides to evolve it. [[User:Kamusioso|Kamus, the kpo...]] 03:39, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

== Rival ==

The article is about TRAINER CLASS named Rival, not sort of characters. Brendan, May, Wally, Lucas, Dawn and Barry never had this title so they shouldn't be there. Maybe there should be a separate article on Rivals (character) and Rival (the class). --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:43, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
*Whether they are called it or not, they still are rivals. PKMN Trainer. Rival. It really doesn't matter. [[User:Ryuutakeshi|Ryuutakeshi]] 1:19 August 27, 2009

== Blue in Yellow ==

I'll try to add the yellow sprite of blue on the page, cause it just seems appropriate. Don't worry I'll use the first one, the battles before the S.S. Anne.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 03:28, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

== May and Brendan - Psuedo Rivals? ==

I don't think May and Brendan should be in the same category as Dawn and Lucas. You never battle Dawn and Lucas. May and Brendan are a different story. I don't think Dawn and Lucas should even be on this page. They are not rivals, AT ALL. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:25, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:I (sort of) agree with Maxim's comment two sections above. '''~ [[User:Sol|s]][[User_talk:Sol|o]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|l]]''' 03:52, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Still, they are no normal trainer class, they are part of the storyline, and they use a specific starter. Megamew

== Harley? ==

It says he's is atleast as old as Brock. Should we compare them? Harley seems like he's atleast twenty,and Brock is around the 14-15 range. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 01:12, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

== Silver ==

we need silver's sprite to be removed from the page as on the nintendo website they've updated his sprite--DSDark 03:27, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:Actually, someone needs to upload the new version. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 03:29, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

== Wally - a Pseudo Rival! ==

He should be classified as pseudo-rival. He's simply an odd-one out in the rivals category. He has a preset name, doesn't get a starter, doesn't seem to own Pokedex, doesn't count as main game character and, the most important, he NEVER starts any heated rivalry with the player. The player meets him... three times, IIRC. His role in the game is MUCH SMALLER than opposite-gender player's. Indeed, he's much stronger than him/her, but that does NOT make him a true rival. Not every strong trainer is a rival. Bear with it, THERE IS NO TRUE RIVAL IN R/S/E. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:11, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:Personally, I don't believe there are any "pseudo rivals" in RSE. You just have two rivals. That's it. With Brendan/May and Wally combined, you have the equivalent of what is a true rival. The only pseudo rivals are Dawn and Lucas. If you fight a trainer repeatedly on your quest, then they're a rival. Period. Calling them pseudo just because they aren't the last ones we fight or because they don't have a true starter is stupid. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:55, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== Silver.. ==

His first sprite is still there,what about [http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee357/Pichu_Chu/con01_img04.jpg this] one? I think it's from the Nintendo site,or maybe it's the Pokemon site(I can't recall). Is the picture too small? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 22:48, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, too small, probably. We'll wait on a bigger image. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Wally and Brendan/May ==

I would say that Wally is a pseudo rival and Brendan/May the real rival. I mean, Blue, Silver and Pearl all live in the same town as the player, own a starter Pokémon from the professor, and you get to battle them during the game multiple times. The same applies for Brendan/May, except that they don't battle the player anymore after about 6 badges. Wally is totally different to the others, you have to battle him only twice during the game, he doesn't own a starter Pokémon and doesn't live in the same town. If you consider him a rival, you should also consider Steven Stone a rival (which is stupid, of course), since you meet him several times and in the end also battle with him. --[[User:Bisasam|Bisasam]] 09:35, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

== Silver sprite???? ==

Should silver's sprite be removed?.... based on the recent trailer on the official website,, Silver's sprite is based on the official artwork.. just asking.. try to see it
heres a screenshot[[:a:File: Silver_Commercial.PNG]]
....--[[User:Gaspershut|''GASPER'']][[User talk:Gaspershut|''shut...'']] 13:17, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
:Who's to say the sprite isn't in motion? Like the Platinum sprites. He could have the pose coming into the battle and then move to the other pose. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 13:59, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
::Or he could be like Blue and change his sprite every so often. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 14:03, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
:::if you look close the img,the rival have a costume more similar to silver that the sprite we have already--[[User:Kyokencl|kyokencl]] 14:11, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
::::This is the official sprite for Silver in HGSS (and yes, he does have an animation) But really, since this video isn't all that great of quality we should just wait till we can get a proper sprite up. --[[user:Ryuutakeshi|Ryuutakeshi]] 1:33 August 27 2009
:::::If its not the official version of the sprite it needs to be removed --DSDark 03:05, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::It is official. It's just the beta. Beta =/= Unofficial. Let it go already... --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:24, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

== Rival Sprite(Silver) ==

Which one are we using?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:08, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
:Never mind, I can't read I quess.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:09, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

== Kotone and Gold are the Psuede Rivals? ==

Are they?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 03:16, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:No. They're the '''''pseudo''''' rivals. :P —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:46, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

== Pearl need "in the anime" section ==

Really needs it, like Silver or recently Blue, please --Ash 20:56, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

== Kotone and Hibiki/Gold ==

I completely and utterly fail to see how these two count as pseudo-rivals. You never battle them, or tag battle with them, or even see any of their Pokemon besides that Marill they play with.

I haven't played with a male PC yet, so I don't know what Kotone does, but in HG Hibiki just calls me up and tells me some lie about taking some Pokemon somewhere to see something interesting. That's all. 8( [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 08:36, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
:Next time Kotone calls me in SS, I'll see if I can record it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:55, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

== Ronald ==

Wouldn’t Ronald from the TCG be classed as a rival? Mark and Mint are included in the player character section. I would add him myself but I don’t know how to work tables. [[User:Kingofall42|Kingofall42]] 11:33, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

==Y in end of each name ==
shouldn't we add that most of the main rivals names end in Y (Gary, Wally, Barry) only silver was left and he is unnamed he could have a name ending in Y (ok it's just speculation).[[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 14:32, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:No, that's not important enough to really mention... -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 14:34, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

== Wally vs. May/Brendan ==

Why is Wally, who only battles the player twice with a Pokemon that isn't even a starter as the lead member of his team, considered to be the player's rival, even though May or Brendan battle the player regularly with their starter being the traditional advantageous choice against the player's? May and Brendan even get their own battle theme, like almost all the other rivals, whereas Wally doesn't. They seem to fit the classic description of a "rival" way more than Wally does, even though he battles the player in Victory Road and can be battled again after that. Regardless, my question boils down to this: why him and not them? Is it just because they're the player character that isn't chosen that they're just lumped together with Lucas/Dawn and Ethan/Lyra? [[User:Teamrocketspy621|Teamrocketspy621]] 20:25, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree. I think Brendan/May are more of rivals and not "pseudo-rivals" until the end where Wally steps up. I think both characters, that is Brendan/May and Wally, are both rivals. Neither are considered pseudo because the both challenge the player continuously, unlike Dawn/Lucas and Ethan/Lyra who only aid the player. I think Brendan/May should be moved out of that "pseudo" box. [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 00:53, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:I also support this. Brendan/May had the Starter Pokémon that trumps yours, were fought at regular intervals...The only thing keeping Wally as the Rival is that he fights you at Victory Road, but that's only because by then your real rival had quit being a Trainer back in Lilycove.
:So yeah, move Brendan/May out of the pesuo-rival box. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 01:03, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

== (trainer class) ==

Is that really needed? This page talks about the entire existence of rivals in all of Pokémon, while calling it a trainer class leans toward the games. I'm for a split. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 22:59, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, I don't know why I moved it... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:52, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

== Pseudo rivals? ==

I don't think we should continue using this ambiguous term. The images suggest the difference between "main rivals" and "pseudo rivals" is that the second group are simply player characters, but, well, those would simply be player characters (already included in that article) and NPC's (they already appear in their region NPC template), though not necessarily rivals. The wording in the article seems to suggest that Wally isn't a main rival because he doesn't have a starter whose typing weakens the player's, but then where does Bel fit in? Blue in Yellow? In short, I think we should just stick with a simple, concise definition for a rival in the games. From [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rival Wiktionary], a rival is
::''A competitor (person, team, company, etc.) who is well known to another and has similar skills and achievements. Defeating a rival may be a primary or necessary goal of a competitor.''
Taking from that, I think the following is a nice definition for "Pokémon game rival":
::''A Rival is a recurring character, introduced early in the games, who challenges the player repeatedly in different points of his or her journey and whose Pokémon's levels progress roughly at the same rate as the player's.''
So basically, two things are important: that they are well known to each other (introduced early), and that they have similar skills and achievements (levels progress at same rate). This would leave as rivals: {{ga|Blue}}, {{ga|Silver}}, {{ga|May}} or {{ga|Brendan}}, [[Wally]], {{ga|Barry}}, [[Cheren]], and [[Bel]] (basically those in the template), and we would eliminate the vague and contradictory "pseudo rival" term. Anyone agree? '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 20:11, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
:And give Lucas, Dawn, Ethan, and Lyra the boot? Hell yes I am all for it. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 20:38, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia about similar pokemon ==
''Ash has at least one species of Pokémon each of his major rivals own. Gary captured a Krabby, Paul uses a Torterra and Gliscor, Barry uses a Staraptor and Heracross, and Shooti uses a Janovy.''

I think without mentioning Snivy this line can lead to confusion that Ash has a Janovu, while he has no (at least as of now) because of the word "[[species]]". So basicly Snivy should be noted because it is the real tie between the two of them, not Janovu. --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 16:10, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

== N ==

Well, I think N should be considered a rival, because he battles you most of the times and is in the {{pkmn|Trainer}} class. Can I change the Unova section? {{unsigned|MickBooterhood}}
:He seems like a rival, but he actually is the king of Team Plasma, just like Giovanni is the leader of Team Rocket, that's why it isn't in here, or so I guess. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 13:06, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
::N isn't a rival, he is an evil team leader. Using the Trainer class "{{PK}}{{MN}}Trainer" doesn't make someone a rival. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:07, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Yes, but it is different from other bosses... He doesn't get close to the player and voluntarily asks it to have a 'friendly' battle, and even N does it often. At first we don't really know that he's the king, so from the start it could be the third rival... {{unsigned|MickBooterhood}}
:Perhaps he is meant to appear to be a rival at the first few encounters then you realize he is not a rival at all. Regardless, that is just speculation, and N is not a rival. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:01, 5 February 2011 (UTC
::Perhaps a pseudo-rival? {{unsigned|MickBooterhood}}
:::No, he doesn't even fit the pseudo-rival type. He's not a rival, period. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 19:31, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

== Blue's sprite ==

Why is Blue's FireRed and LeafGreen sprite being used instead of his HeartGold and SoulSilver sprite? Because he is not a rival in that game? {{unsigned|Spearbeedrill15}}
::Yes. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 01:26, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

== Team Magma/Aqua (Manga) ==

Those don't really seem to fit in with the article in my opinion...or maybe the wording needs to be changed, because they're not individual characters like is mentioned in the Adventures section. It just seems strange that they're the only teams on the entire page. [[User:Toujours|Toujours]] 00:13, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

== BW the only game to have two rivals? ==

R/S/E had Wally and Brendan/May (depending on which player char u didn't choose), so doesn't that also count as two rivals?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 01:07, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
:Taken care of. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:12, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

== BW? ==

Ash's rivals and Cilans all have a mid evo starter pokemon from the unova reigon, noteworthy and where?[[User:Prinben|Prinben]] 06:23, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
:Stephan has a middle evolution starter Pokémon? [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 06:29, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
*Well no, you would know what I was on About if you do watch the anime, Trip Servine, Bianca Pignite and Burgundy Dewott?![[User:Prinben|Prinben]] 18:02, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
:That is true, but Stephan is also Ash's rival and he does not have a middle evolution starter Pokémon, therefore it's not true. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 20:54, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
::Considering I knew that Stephan '''''does not''''' have a middle starter Pokémon, I think it's safe to assume that I watch the anime. That and I [[James's Yamask|wrote]] [[Mr. Garrison|a fair]] [[Bianca's Minccino|amount of the]] [[Cilan's Stunfisk|Best Wishes]] [[Luke's Zorua|character articles]], and provide screenshots of episodes. But you're right, Trip, Bianca, and Burgundy do have middle starter Pokémon. But they don't count for [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/all all] rivals. I should also point out that "most rivals" won't cut it either since there are only four to begin with. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 22:03, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
::: Should we add [[Sunglasses Krokorok]] as Pikachu's rival? [[User:Chomper4|Chomper4]] 14:09, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
::: How about......No? rivalaries between pokémon are few and far between, and the article is about rivalaries between humans. so just don't.--My r6g4rdz, [[User:Mr-ex777|TEH GIGA-UBER-1337-HAX0R(Mr-ex777)]] 14:47, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Why doesn't someone add atleast black2-and-white2 rival's artwork since we don't have his sprite yet?[[User:VENUS,MEGA,SCEPT,TORTE,SERP|VENUS,MEGA,SCEPT,TORTE,SERP]] 22:20, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

== Roketto Dan / Satoshi??? ==
The Roketto-dan have Kosaburo and Yamato as rivals, however, shouldn't they be Satoshi's rivals, as well. {{unsigned|JacobTheDoduo}}
:No. Their goals are completely different from Ash's. They are antagonists. Rivals refer to those who have similar goals. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:27, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

== Rivalry (not the ability) ==

About those rivals mentioned in the article, the Article just expresses them as Rivals. I think we should make an article about the development of what became the relationship between them, in many cases the rivalry is the clash of their personalities, but the article could express the main reason of the rivalry: Ash and Gary is the broken Pokéball, Burgundy being a rival just for revenge at her loss for Cilan. The article could be not just limited to the human rivalry: Ash's Oshawott and Dawn's Piplup; Ash's Infernape and Paul's Electivire; the classic example of Zangoose and Seviper; Groudon and Kyogre; Tornadus and Thundrus; Heatmor and Durant; and so on... What do you think?

+I've read Pokémon Adventures and I saw on chapther a Zangoose and a Seviper fighting, but when they spotted Ruby and the Swimmer they attacked them insead of each other, the Swimmer mentioned that despite being bitter enemies, their rivalry is sacred, is it notable enough to put on the article or the article I'm planning?--[[User:Igor Castro Chucre|Igor ]] ([[User talk:Igor Castro Chucre|talk]]) 23:11, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

== Calem and Serena ==

Should Calem and Serena be added as rivals? In the most recent demo, Calem was called Rival Calem. [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] ([[User talk:Iml908|talk]]) 14:11, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

== Shauna ==

So Calem/Serena are obviously one of the rival characters, however, shauna seems to fit the role in the same way bianca did. She gets a pokemon the same time you do, choosing the starter weak to yours, and she is even the first one that you battle. She starts her adventure the same time you do (like all rivals). [[User:Trotz59|Trotz59]] ([[User talk:Trotz59|talk]]) 16:22, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

== Ash's AG rival ==

What about the fat guy?--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 16:10, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
:[[Morrison|He has a name]]. And he was a League Rival, not a normal Rival like Gary, Paul, and Trip. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 16:23, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

== N, Trevor And Tierno? ==

Don't they count as rivals? Trevor's your rival in completing the Pokédex (an unorthodox rivalry, but still a rivalry), and you face off with not only him but both N and Tierno multiple times in battle throughout your journeys... I know N is also the head of Team Plasma and more of a friendly rival, but I think he counts.--[[User:BlackButterfree|BlackButterfree]] ([[User talk:BlackButterfree|talk]]) 00:21, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
:We do not count N as a rival. As for Trevor and Tierno, I'm not sure. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 01:15, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
::I don't like Trevor and Tierno being included. (Put simply, I mostly just think they don't fit; they're too ''weird''.) I wouldn't be surprised if the anime has said something like "It's cool having lots of rivals", but I don't really agree with that; I think there should only be one - maybe two - "actual" rivals. If that means making a requirement to only count characters who battle you frequently - i.e., cutting out Wally and Shauna - I'd be okay with that (I'm not that fond of Shauna being here either).
::FWIW, I also haven't completed the main game at this point, so maybe I'd change my view a bit after the battle that's supposed to be on Route 19. ...For Shauna, at least. Trevor and Tierno are still weird. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:17, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
:::Has there been a reason for N's exclusion? The main one I found was that he was the leader of Team Plasma, like Giovanni with Team Rocket. But Ghetsis was more the leader, with N as his pawn. N's belief in truth/ideals can be interpreted as rivaling the player's, so him being a Rival makes sense. [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] ([[User talk:Iml908|talk]]) 00:40, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
::I don't think that Wally should be cut out, I can understand the others, but wally is much more of a rival than Brendan/May. Brendan/May quit being a trainer long before the end of the game. While Wally continues to battle you 'til the very end and is the character that you can rematch after beating the elite four (just like almost every rival so far). I think Wally was designed to be the rival character while Brendan/May were player characters that just acted as secondary rivals (they are like Dawn/Lucas in Sinnoh games, but you battle them a few times).
::I think that if Shauna, Trevor, and Tierno were not classified as rivals, then there should be a new classification for characters like them, as well as Ethan/Lyra, Dawn/Lucas, and N. They are all significant companion/rival-like characters, so it would make sense to make a new fandom term for these characters. I know Pseudo-rivals used to be a thing but isn't because it was redundant, but there are a lot more characters that can fit that title now. [[User:Trotz59|Trotz59]] ([[User talk:Trotz59|talk]]) 21:47, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
::N seems more like a rival to me than Wally. N is battled multiple times but Wally is only battled twice. Maybe Wally could be one since the player can rematch him. I wouldn't say N isn't one because he is the leader of [[Team Plasma]].----[[User:Ethan7|Ethan]] ''([[User talk:Ethan7|Discussion]])'' 04:46, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
:::I think I'd like having something like "primary rivals" (the character who "counter-picked" the player and chose the starter that the player's is weak to) and "secondary rivals" (more or less any "rival-like" friends or acquaintances who the player battles repeatedly over the course of the game). Because I really think there's a bit of a problem when the characters who counter-picked the player aren't differentiated from whoever else broadly fits the description of "rival".
:::If it were all up to me, I'd just say the "secondary" rivals shouldn't be on this page at all. But I think everyone can be happy if we just separate the characters into the inherently special "primary" rivals and the remaining "secondary" rivals. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:44, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
::::I wouldn't say that the trainer who counter-picks your starter is the primary rival. Mostly because that means that Brendan and May would be primary rivals, when the rival between them ends. And by ends, I mean it ends before the rival even has their counter-picked starter fully evolved. Also, that would mean that Bianca is a secondary rival to Cheren, when the game introduces both characters in the same way, and they both fit equal amounts of other requirements of being a rival. I think if we went with a "primary" and "secondary" rival system, then the rematch characters (Blue, Silver, Wally, Barry, Cheren, Bianca, Hugh, and Serena/Calem) should be primary, considering that the rivalry never ends (since you can rematch them at any point). This would mean that the non-rematch rivals (Brendan/May, possibly N?, Shauna, Tierno, and Trevor) would be secondary. I know that people tend to disagree on Brendan/May versus Wally, however Wally is the character that can be rematched, while Brendan/May literally aren't even trainers anymore by Lilycove, let alone rivals. Also, Wally may only have two canonized battles, but Brendan/May only have four (and that's all they get, while Wally could end up being 10+). [[User:Trotz59|Trotz59]] ([[User talk:Trotz59|talk]]) 17:58, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
:::::I still think the characters who counter-pick you should be divided from everyone else... Maybe just separate everyone into "Counter-picking rivals" and "Other rivals"? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:29, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

== Gladion ==

Should Gladion be considered a rival? He can be fought before the League like other rivals, and his Silvally changes type to be super effective against the Player's starter. [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] ([[User talk:Iml908|talk]]) 00:04, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
:I don't think the League thing really counts as a justification — Hau is the rival you fight before the League. Gladion is way back before the equivalent of Victory Road. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:08, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
::I don't think that makes too much of a difference: Most rivals are fought shortly before the eight Gym (Bianca and Shauna/Tierno/Trevor, although this has only happened in games that had other rivals, admittedly), shortly before Victory Road (Blue and Cheren), inside of Victory Road (Silver, Wally, Hugh, and Calem/Serena), or shortly before challenging the Pokémon League (Barry and Hau). The only exception to this so far has been Brendan/May (who at the very least get an extra battle after the credits in ORAS). [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 06:18, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
:::It's definitely a tough call. But I think the strongest case to be made against including him as a rival is that unlike past rivals (even ones who don't use typical starters like Wally, Tierno, and Trevor), Gladion is not encountered at or near the beginning of your journey—rather, you don't encounter him for the first time until you have already cleared an entire island's trial and grand trial. —[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 16:17, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Rotom Pokédex

2016-12-11T16:02:19Z

AndyPKMN: /* Poké Finder */

Wait, is Rotom Dex a Pokemon, or an item?

Also, I think we should use the term Rotom Pokédex, and not the more informal Rotom Dex on the article.

[[User:BlueDogXL|BlueDogXL]] ([[User talk:BlueDogXL|talk]]) 22:21, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

== Island Scan Pokémon ==
Just wondering how we should go about adding Island Scan Pokémon to pages. I added the Sun and Moon section for [[Togekiss (Pokémon)#Game locations|Togekiss here]], giving the location and in brackets after it (Island Scan, Tuesday) to show how to obtain it. Would this be an okay format for Pokémon pages? As for the location pages, should they be listed under Special encounters? ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 16:15, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
:Poké Radar Pokémon have been listed within the Special Pokémon sections in the past. However, hidden Pokémon in ORAS are listed separately on their route pages. So I assume that should take precedence since it's a more recent example. --[[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 05:52, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
::I've created a mock up of both with Klink. Included N/A for allies since, from my experience, Adrenaline Orbs don't work on Island Scan Pokémon. --[[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 07:57, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

{{Catch/header/dn|land}}
{{Catch/div|land|Special Pokémon}}
{{Catch/entry7|599|Klink|yes|yes|Island Scan|5-8|all=One|type1=Steel|alliesna=N/A}}
{{Catch/footer|land}}

{{Catch/header/dn|land}}
{{Catch/div|land|Exclusively from Island Scan}}
{{Catch/entry7|599|Klink|yes|yes|Grass|5-8|all=One|type1=Steel|alliesna=N/A}}
{{Catch/footer|land}}

:::I personally think the second one should be used. Although we should put the Day of the Week they appear next to "One" in the table too. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 08:14, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
::::Alright, I added day of the week to the latter. I'll go about adding this layout to the relevant pages unless there's any other additions that need to be made. I'm not sure on the levels they are at, but I could put in the levels the other Pokémon in those areas appear at. Not sure if a mouse over should be added to explain the lack of allies. --[[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 08:50, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

{{Catch/header/dn|land}}
{{Catch/div|land|Exclusively from Island Scan}}
{{Catch/entry7|599|Klink|yes|yes|Grass|5-8|all=One{{dotw|Th}}|type1=Steel|alliesna=N/A}}
{{Catch/footer|land}}
:::::The levels are apparently set (or at least, I have info that confirms one level only), so I've added those. If you like, feel free to include info about the lack of allies and such here, but with the template, I guess it's perfectly clear that they don't call allies at the individual locations. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 22:14, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

== Rotom Dex ==

I think we should add a redirect from "Rotom Dex" to this page, but I'm not sure how. [[User:TheDoctorPotter|TheDoctorPotter]] ([[User talk:TheDoctorPotter|talk]]) 20:55, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
:Just search it, click on "Create article", and then make it a redirect like by writing <code><nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Article title]]</nowiki></code>. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 22:14, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

== Poké Finder ==

Should we make a list of Poké Finder spots and the Pokémon you can encounter there? [[User:AmoongussForLife|AmoongussForLife]] ([[User talk:AmoongussForLife|talk]]) 18:12, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
:I think we should. (That sounds very much like a new main article even to me.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:08, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
::We have [[photography]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:31, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
:::That page is already starting to get pretty big, though. I think the Poké Finder could merit its own page, particularly if it includes all the information about which Pokémon can be found at each location. —[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 16:02, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Malie Garden

2016-12-10T18:23:14Z

AndyPKMN:

==Lake==
So, I'm new here. I want to show you proof on my edit that Malie Garden's lake is indeed shaped like [[Zygarde]]'s 50% Forme. So, if you want to see it, can someone please make me a administrator or something else... for a limited time only so I can upload this image? After that, you can make me back to normal. Ok? --[[User:PKMNMasterClara|PKMNMasterClara]] ([[User talk:PKMNMasterClara|talk]]) 16:27, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
:Upload it to a site like imgur and then link it here instead. You're not going to be made an admin, even for a short period. And to upload images, you need to be autoconfirmed, not an admin. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 16:53, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

::I had thought it was meant to be shaped like Gyarados (to tie in with Malie City's Johto-like culture). But looking at it again, it seems to have substantial differences in shape with both that and Zygarde. The page probably should at least mention that it is meant to be shaped like a Pokémon (since I believe an NPC in the garden says as much in no uncertain terms), but unless there's a clear and indisputable match or some official confirmation I don't like the idea of the page coming down in favor of one Pokémon or another. —[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 18:23, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Player character

2016-12-02T16:33:51Z

AndyPKMN: /* Sun and Moon's Names */

I suggest merge of [[Player character]] and [[Rival]], as well as categorisation according to the game instead of the Region. Also, I believe Pokemon Ranger characters should be added as main characters, considering that Pokemon Ranger is actually a main Pokemon Game.

Anyone have the Emerald sprite of May? [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Porygon-Z''']][ 14:12, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
:And again that request is made. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

== Re-write? ==

Does anyone else think this article needs a re-write? [[User:PDL|PDL]] 03:14, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:Do you have a reason? [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:03, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
:It seems kinda... messy. It's not that hard really explain how a player character works in a video game. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 02:50, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

== Backsprites ==

I was thinking that we could take a page from the Pokémon pages and find the backsprites of the player characters as well as the partner characters (like Steven and Buck).--[[User:MisterE13|MisterE13]] 03:05, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

== Mentioning of Player in Mystery Dungeon? ==

There's not really much more to say... [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 01:36, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:Or the player in Trozei (being the user him/herself). Or in any of the other games, for that matter. What about Snap? I feel like this should be a stub. [[User:Jazzmoth|Jazzmoth]] 05:16, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, the player in Trozei (or Link, as we call it over here) is [[Lucy Fleetfoot]]. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 17:59, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
:::And that's a stub, if I've ever seen one. [[User:Jazzmoth|Jazzmoth]] 02:07, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

== *COUGH* ==

Why do we need backsprites?--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 02:34, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:We have them for Pokémon. So why not characters.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:54, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
::Because it made the page wayyy to big. Maybe if we didn't just have one, but all of those broken links look just awful.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 02:58, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:::We could resize them. We also have broken links on the Pokémon pages IMHO, it just lets someone know that the images should be created.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:01, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Resize? Eww. Only one Pokémon even does that, and it's Deoxys. Perhaps I'll do a hack of the sprite template that'll allow for it. Or you can. I dunno. Yeah. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:07, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::I might be able to. what exactly do you mean?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 21:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Michael and What's his name... ==

What about side game characters? [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:52, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:Lunick, Solana, the players in PMD, yeah they should go here. And if they do, the part about being remarkably silent doesn't apply to PMD.[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 05:55, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

== Dawn and Luca's Platinum sprites ==

They're not uploaded yet,right? Can someone upload them? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 21:45, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== Two little things ==

Couldn't the table also hold the overworld sprite for each character? I don't think they appear anywhere else. Also, HgSs will require another column for Gold and Kris, should I change it? [[User:Mr. Charlie|Mr. ]][[User talk:Mr. Charlie|Charlie]] 03:04, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

== Gamecube game characters? ==

What about Wes and Michael? I see no reason for them to be excluded. Sure, we wouldn't have as many pictures since they appear in 3D games, but I really can't consider those games to be side-games. They're full-fledged Pokemon RPGs, just like the handhelds. [[User:Cheesedude|Cheesedude]] 02:07, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:Umm...already stated... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:08, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
::Missed it due to the lack of pictures. Nevermind. Sorry. [[User:Cheesedude|Cheesedude]] 02:09, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

== Ranger ==

Shouldn't we list the player characters in Ranger? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:35, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:I will. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 03:36, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

== The new girl ==

Since we're not getting Kris back, as she's more a Crystal character than a GS (and by extension, HGSS) character, what should we name the new girl since we don't know her name and likely won't be getting it?

I say Soul, since, like Leaf, she'll likely be named for the prefix of the secondary remake game, while her male counterpart is the primary original game (Gold, like Red) and her rival is the secondary original game (Silver, like Blue/Green).

Should we make an article yet, though? I've protected both Heart and {{ga|Soul}} until the tenth anniversary of GS, so... no need to worry there. Plus, we can move it when and if we get her real name either via hacking the games to pieces or because they actually '''give her one outright'''. But it never happened to Leaf, so... we'll just wait to see, eh?

So, below, vote: make it, don't make it, and under what name? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:52, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

:There are still some arguments that she is Kris but with a major redesign. Kinda like Red in FRLG. But I don't know. I say Soul because of the reason you stated (even though I like Heart better). Make it under {{ga|Soul}}. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:59, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

::Let's wait till the game is released. An opposite-gender player will have a supporting role, which means there'll be a fixed name for her. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 05:15, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

:::Well, we shouldn't wait six months to make an article about a character from the Pokémon games. I like Soul, but make sure that it is noted that until confirmation it is a fan name. When CoroCoro comes out I'll have at it and see if it is noted anywhere amidst the crazyness.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 05:24, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Maxim... that's for Gen III and IV games. HGSS is a Gen II game (technically). Where was Leaf's supporting role? Did I somehow ''miss her'' in FireRed, despite completing the game 100%? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:25, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
::::: My vote goes for making an article, or at least starting one that we can move to the proper place when the name is revealed. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 06:33, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::I vote for making the article. Call it Soul or whatever you want, see if I care. I'm too upset with the decision of erasing Kris from the Pokémon World to even bother. Kris is the best thing that ever happened to the Pokémon franchise. [[User:Mr. Charlie|Mr. ]][[User talk:Mr. Charlie|Charlie]] 06:43, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Your right Mr. Charlie, if it wasn't for Kris there wouldn't be girl characters. Then they go and replace her with a girl with Mario's overolls and a '''HUGE''' hat. I felt like crying :(
See my page, the part with my pokemon trainers. I'm not going to touch it untill some more info on this "Soul".[[User:Glitchym1|Glitchym1]] 21:55, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Scratch that last thing I said, I'll call her Soul Kamon.[[User:Glitchym1|Glitchym1]] 22:10, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== Titles... ==

Color clashing... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:17, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:Should be better now. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:48, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

== Overhead sprites ==

Think we should add those too? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
:Old question but sounds like a good idea. However, we need someone able to rip sprites to do that. [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 19:21, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

== Gold's backsprite ==

Why do we even have it there? Anyway,they changed his backsprite,but the article still shows the original one. Is the screenshot to small? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 01:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:There are two there already... [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 02:39, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::I meant his Heartgold and Soulsilver backsprite,they changed [http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee357/Pichu_Chu/con01_img04.jpg it],it's slightly different. For example,his hair isn't parted. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 22:46, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
I guess it could be one of the first beta things for HGSS, but its still to early to tell, they could change it again--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 04:55, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

i think we should wait because the back sprite is changing in recent pictures he does not have the symbol on the back of his hat.--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 17:10, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

== Counterparts for missing ==

May and Dawn needs on their respective webs a section of counterparts like Red, Gold, Kris and Kotone, please sombebody cna do it? --Ash 20:50, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

== Wes is one of the few that "doesnt wear head gear" trivia ==

Ummm... I own Colosseum and it shows him wearing silver visors in his hair, and also if you go to his page you can see he's wearing them as headgear in the photo. But, every time I try to remove Wes from that part of the trivia, someone puts him back in...

Visors aren't headgear. They're eyeware. [[User:67h5r6h|67h5r6h]] 19:12, 15 July 2010 (UTC)67h5r6h

== Gold's HGSS Name ==

Until HG and SS are released here (as short a time as that'll be), Gold's HGSS sprite should be titled "Hibiki". Then there's the matter of Silver seemingly being "rival"/"Rival" rather than truly named, but a lack of name rationalizes attributing "Silver" to him my my count (though that's not so much here as it is there, on the rivals' page). [[User:TJF588|TJF588]] 01:47, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:There has been a heap of discussion about these characters' names all over the pedia (for example, here), and the consensus reached is that we ain't touching anything until the games are released. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:49, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

== Protection ==

I personally think we should protect this page considering the Generation V boy and girl heroes have been revealed with little detail for both. The main reason is because I know someone out there will post fake images and ridiculous speculation. [[User:Ninterror|Ninterror]] 11:52, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
:I'd rather we assumed good faith and left it open. We'll see how it goes for now. When the details really start to come out, we can rethink. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:32, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, about that, shouldn't somebody put info and pics about BW player characters?

== Stadium characters ==

Do they count as player characters? You honestly don't really play as them, as in moving them or anything, but you do tell your Pokemon what to do, which is the players ability. So you ''technically'' do play as them. Also, they aren't Ethan and Kris. Or even actually, any other protagonist [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 14:06, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
:Of course they do. You control them just as much as Lucy Fleetfoot. They are 100% player characters, in my opinion. The fact that you don't walk using them doesn't make them any worse. I think I could upload their faceshots and add them to this article. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 18:25, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

== What's wrong? ==

I can't see the bottom of this page. It dead-ends after the template with Ranger Characters. Does this happen just to me, or is there something screwed-up in the coding? It doesn't happen when I view older revisions of the article. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 11:04, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:Works fine for me. I think it's because of all the internal trouble and stuff the the 'pedia's been experiencing recently. It happend to me the other day, on a different page. [[User:Takharii|<sc>Takharii</sc>]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|<sc>Talk!</sc>]] 11:10, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::Works because I just fixed it. Someone had added there a HTML comment but forgot to close it... '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 11:14, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

== Black and White Trainers? ==

I'm a bit surprised they aren't featured here. I understand them not getting their own pages (yet) due to the scarcity of information on them, but I can't even find their images on this site. {{unsigned|Clark Griswald}}

They probably just want to avoid speculation. Personally, I'm just glad the male trainer has a normal hair color. First in Generation III it was white, then in IV it looked purple (although ingame it looked more like black)
On a somewhat related note, does anyone have any idea why the player characters from black and white are older than in previous games?[[User:67h5r6h|67h5r6h]] 19:10, 15 July 2010 (UTC)67h5r6h
:No Black and White until we actually know something about them. And no opinionated chat here. There are in fact pictures of the BW main characters in the group shot in the article. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:20, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

The male trainer in Generation III has black hair. In the manga, it revealed that the white part was a hat. And if you look closely under the headband, you could see some black hair. ([[User:Holonboy|Holonboy]] 06:33, 26 August 2010 (UTC))

== Trivia ==

Does anyone else think it's worth mentioning that each of the main series player characters have a hat of some sort? '''''[[Special:Contributions/Shiny_Rayquaza|→→→]] [[User:Shiny Rayquaza|Shiny]] [[User talk:Shiny Rayquaza|Rayquaza]]''''' 02:10, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:I wouldn't count May's as a hat so much as a headband, but since Brendan's is a hat, then I do think it's worth mentioning. [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 03:55, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::Bah I meant bandanna, not headband. [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 03:55, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::It would probably better to use the word "headgear", so that the trivia point encompasses all the player characters. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:35, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Optional names for <player character> ==

I've made a few templates to replace the old ones on each page. [[User:Takharii/sandbox#'In other languages' template|They're both here]]. Which one does everyone like better? [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 09:34, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
:Colors of the first one on the second design. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:46, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

== Pokemon Channel ==
What about Pokemon channel? I know you never see the character, but it is still a game and the name should be mentioned. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 20:06, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

== Sprites ==

Are you sure that the edits by ''Ash Pokemaster‏'' is right? Does this page no longer needed the sprites from previous generations? [[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 10:38, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:Well, there isn't really a need for them. The page was listing all the protagonists. Not listing all their sprites. I somewhat agree with it. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 21:28, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
::If you need sprites you can always use a [http://www.spriters-resource.com/ sprites resource]! Heck, you can even open the article of each character to find them. I don't think there's need for sprites to be placed in every possible article. The article looks much more elegant now, albeit incomplete. :P
::Also, this isn't a perfect design or anything. I just tried to make it look more proper for the wiki, but it still needs work. First of all, there is need for this style to be applied in other characters as well. It would also probably be handy to combine the male the female characters boxes. But either way, I think that it looks fine now. [[User:Ash Pokemaster|Ash_Pokemaster]] 23:58, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

== Ranger Backs & Main Series ==

First off, anyone got the underwater Ranger backs? And second off, what happened to/was wrong with that proper collection of sprites under characters? [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] - [[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|Please don't hurt us...]] 22:13, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
:See just abobe. :) [[User:Ash Pokemaster|Ash_Pokemaster]] 16:36, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

== Typing DS chars ==

They did have some sprites, right? I think they also had some default names, didn't they? They may not be worth their own articles but I think they should definitely be included here. Can anyone who has a copy check their names (and upload sprites, if possible)? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:57, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

== P+NA ==

is there art of the player characters from Pokémon + Nobunaga's Ambition we could put on here? [[User:Volcronaperson|Volcronaperson]] 00:33, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Yes there is. Now it is on this page.

== Black and White 2 Trainers ==

http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/b2w2/characters/

Just thought they should be added to the group shot now that good pics are out. {{unsigned|Clark Griswald}}

== X and Y ==

Do we have a confirmed name here?

http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en/screenshots/june_p14_04.jpg

[[User:Duke R|'''|) u |( e''']] [[User talk:Duke R|'''®''']] 14:44, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
:It looks likely, but we may need to wait until both are revealed. Xavier does sound like a good name for the male protagonist... [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 15:00, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

::Looks like the X and Y player character's names are Yvonne (girl) and Xavier (boy). '''Seeming they used the boy's name again, I'd say it's highly probable that these are their default names, but I'm not the one to judge, and I think we should still wait a bit longer, just in case.''' [[User:Zarthga|Zarthga]] ([[User talk:Zarthga|talk]]) 09:49, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/5/5b/XY_Prerelease_PSS_battle_1.png

:It feels like you guys might be jumping the gun here. While their names might very well end up being these, there is years of precedence in the Pokemon franchise for pre-release "tentative" player names to later be scrapped altogether for the finished product.

:Not really fond of the mindset of "closest thing to canon right now" being of encyclopedic material. [[User:Gacs|Gacs]] ([[User talk:Gacs|talk]]) 03:24, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

::Not to mention these are not the only names we have seen for these characters, with the latest being Callum and Serena. [[User:Gohan5|Gohan5]] ([[User talk:Gohan5|talk]]) 13:11, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Those are the Japanese names. Although it should be noted that the Japanese equivalent of those pictures used "X" and "Y" in katakana, so it's very unlikely that those will be the final names. We'll have to wait till tomorrow, I suppose. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 13:22, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

::::I would honestly not be surprised at all if Callum and Serena wind up being universal (or partially), given how this is the first time in the history of the series where player characters of the Japanese version are being given distinctive and real non-Japanese names (Western ones, to boot). [[User:Gacs|Gacs]] ([[User talk:Gacs|talk]]) 07:50, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

:Calem and Serena has been confirmed as the main characters' name in English version.([[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 09:01, 15 June 2013 (UTC))
::Is there a reason we haven't made pages for Calem and Serena yet? [[User:Vienna Waltz|Vienna Waltz]] ([[User talk:Vienna Waltz|talk]]) 00:39, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
::I think we have a misunderstood here, please check the official page of Pokemon, thay only wrote, "Serena or Calem - Your next-door neighbor in Vaniville will set out on a journey just like everyone else, with the goal of becoming a powerful Pokémon Trainer. If your character is a boy, your neighbor will be Serena. If you play as a girl, Calem will be your neighbor." - [[User:Theodorethebear|Theodorethebear]] ([[User talk:Theodorethebear|talk]]) 12:06, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
:::To Vienna Waltz, it's because we don't have that much info on them right now. To Theodorethebear, yes, it does say that. What's your point? [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 12:46, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

== Female Character ==

This page says if the female player is chosen on the [[Crystal]] game pack the female character will appear. But when I chose the male on Crystal the female character still appears. I think when any Crystal game pack is used then the female character will appear. ----[[User:Ethan7|Ethan]] ''([[User talk:Ethan|Talk]])'' 04:12, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

== Player height and weight ==

*{{ga|Ethan}} was 4'11" tall and weighed 88.2 lbs in HeartGold and SoulSilver.
*{{ga|Lyra}} is 4'11" tall and weighs 90.4 lbs.
*{{ga|Lucas}} is 4'7" (143 cm) tall and weighs 83.8 lbs (38 kg).
*{{ga|Dawn}} is 4'6" (1.40 m) tall and weighs 75 lbs (34 kg).

Those trivia bits are in those articles. I don't know where they came from. (I suspect the [[Pokédex]].) It seems as though we only have it for the [[Generation IV]] protagonists. The function that allowed the player character to be compared to a Pokémon was apparently added in Generation III, according to the Pokédex page, so why isn't it known for {{ga|Red}}, {{ga|Leaf}}, {{ga|Brendan}}, or {{ga|May}}? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 03:56, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
:At least in HGSS, the height and weight for the PCs is physically spelled out, meaning the game tells you outright that the characters are this height and weight (so I suspect it's the same for DPPt). In Ruby and FR (the games I checked), there are only rough silhouette depictions and no numbers (and certainly no weight comparisons). So it's impossible to add anything for the Gen 3 protags that isn't guesswork. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 13:29, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

== Suggestion ==

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== Side Series/Spin Off ==

Why the distinction? I know there's a lot people that wrongly consider Colosseum and XD to be part of the main series, but I see no reason for there to be a distinction between these and the other spinoffs. They do have gameplay closer to that in the main series, but they're hardly the only spinoffs to allow trading to the main games. Seems like a completely arbitrary section. [[User:Five|Five]] ([[User talk:Five|talk]]) 12:02, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

== Pages for Mystery Dungeon player characters? ==

Could we please have some? And for the partners as well? If there are articles for the player characters of [[Pokémon Conquest]], I don't see why there can't be any for the ones of Mystery Dungeon [[User:N. Harmonik|N. Harmonik]] ([[User talk:N. Harmonik|talk]]) 03:47, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

== Sun and Moon Player characters ==

The last E3 Suggested that the names of the male and female chacters is Elio and Selene. {{unsigned|Robin Maximo}}
:We won't include information until it's 100% confirmed. It's still not yet clear whether these names are the official ones or are just being used in promotional materials. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:01, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

I thought that we could use like temporarie names like Scottie in Sawyer´s name, but ok then-- Posted By Robin Maximo[[User:Robin Maximo|Robin Maximo]] ([[User talk:Robin Maximo|talk]]) 20:01, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

== Orlando ==

Can we add Orlando from the ORAS Special Demo Version? Surely Orlando should at least be mentioned on this page, especially as his Japanese name is Omega. [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] ([[User talk:Kidburla|talk]]) 16:05, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

== Question ==

I only have a question rather than a suggestion, if this is not the place to do this let me know the right place please, how do you guys discover the names of the player characters, where is released?--[[User:Robin Maximo|Robin Maximo]] ([[User talk:Robin Maximo|talk]]) 17:31, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

:It varies. In some of the older games, the official names were often available as a default if you didn't enter a name, or were used in the game's data to label the characters' sprites and other information. In recent games the characters often go by those names when they are not chosen by the player and appear instead as an NPC, such as with Hilbert, Hilda, Nate, and Rosa (in the Battle Subway) or Calem, Serena, Lucas, Dawn, Brendan, May, Ethan, and Lyra (as rivals/friends of the player). —[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 16:18, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

== What? ==

Can someone please fix the page, someone has screwed it up and I don't know what text to put where in order to fix it. EDIT: It's now been fixed, thanks for whoever did it :) {{unsigned|Sun & Moon}}

== Sun and Moon's Names ==

Are Sun and Moon really the official names? I read somewhere that the opposite player doesn't show up as an NPC, and we don't have either one in the anime so we can't go off of that, and the Dex Holders in Pokémon Adventures are always named after the games, so that's not good either... I think we should discuss it a bit before we decide their names.

[[User:BlackButterfree|BlackButterfree]] ([[User talk:BlackButterfree|talk]]) 06:03, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

:I don't know if they even HAVE official names. But people will surely be looking for information about the player characters of the new games and their role in the story, so in the absence of reliable official names, placeholder names might have to do. "Sun" for the male PC at least has some in-game basis (being the name of the PC in the special demo version), and "Moon" would correspond to that. Of course, discussion is still good—if anyone knows a set of names with better justification, I'm all ears. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 16:33, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Ultra Beast

2016-12-02T00:55:47Z

AndyPKMN: Rephrasing, since controlling their host isn't really a thing most parasites do.

{{Current event}}
{{incomplete|needs=More information for UB-03 and 04}}
The '''Ultra Beasts''' (Japanese: '''ウルトラビースト''' ''Ultra Beast'') are a group of creatures that appear in {{g|Sun and Moon}}. They are believed to possess great power and pose a threat to humans and normal Pokémon. The [[Aether Foundation]] is conducting research on them, referring to each of them by a code name. There are currently seven known Ultra Beasts, plus {{p|Cosmog}} and its evolutions, which are also Ultra Beasts (and [[Legendary Pokémon]]), despite not having a code name. Aside from Cosmog's evolutionary line, each has {{a|Beast Boost}} as an ability.

==List of Ultra Beasts==
[[File:793Nihilego.png|thumb|200px|UB-01 Symbiont]]
===UB-01 Symbiont===
'''UB-01 Symbiont''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|UB01|ユービーゼロイチ}}'''), later referred to as {{p|Nihilego}}, is a translucent creature, whose body is made out of a glass-like substance. Although it is shown to look somewhat like a jellyfish, it constantly changes shapes, and never settles on one.

While evidence of something like a survival instinct can be observed in UB-01, no one knows whether it has a will of its own or any emotions. It’s said that, for some reason, its movements resemble those of a young girl.

Nihilego is somewhat of a parasite, injecting a neurotoxin into its host that manipulates their thoughts and actions. This neurotoxin that stimulates intense feelings of excitement in the host and boosts the host's skills to a great extent.

{{-}}

===UB-02===
There are two entities with the codename of UB-02. The one that appears in the story depends on the game played.
[[File:794Buzzwole.png|thumb|left|200px|UB-02 Absorption]]
[[File:795Pheromosa.png|thumb|200px|UB-02 Beauty]]
====UB-02 Absorption====
'''UB-02 Absorption''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|UB02 EXPANSION|ユービーゼロ二イクスパンション}}'''), later called {{p|Buzzwole}}, appears in [[Pokémon Sun and Moon|Pokémon Sun]]. Its entire body is covered with bulging, powerful muscles, allowing it to deliver extremely powerful punches. Its long, silver mouth is believed to be harder than diamond.

====UB-02 Beauty====
'''UB-02 Beauty''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|UB02 BEAUTY|ユービーゼロ二ビューティー}}'''), which is later called {{p|Pheromosa}}, appears in [[Pokémon Sun and Moon|Pokémon Moon]]. Its thin, slender legs allow it to move at incredible speed. It is believed to be able to dodge lightning. It is said that any Pokémon that sees UB-02 Beauty, regardless of gender, will become infatuated with it and lose the will to battle. The exact reason for this reaction is unknown.

{{-}}
[[File:796Xurkitree.png|thumb|200px|UB-03 Lighting]]
===UB-03 Lighting===
'''UB-03 Lighting''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|UB03 LIGHTNING|ユービーゼロサンライトニング}}'''). It is called {{p|Xurkitree}} in the Pokédex. It is thought to energize itself with electricity and can create electric shocks on its body. It has an organ that can generate electricity and can discharge millions of volts. When it is low on electricity it plugs its tail into the ground, acts as a tree, and absorbs power from the earth.

{{-}}
===UB-04===
Similarly to UB-02, there are two entities with the codename of UB-04. The one that appears in the story depends on the game played.
[[File:798Kartana.png|thumb|left|200px|UB-04 Blade]]
[[File:797Celesteela.png|thumb|200px|UB-04 Blaster]]
====UB-04 Blade====
'''UB-04 Blade''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|UB04 SLASH|ユービーゼロヨンスラッシュ}}'''), called {{p|Kartana}} in the Pokédex, appears in [[Pokémon Sun and Moon|Pokémon Sun]]. Each edge of its body is extremely sharp, especially its arms, and it can cut down steel buildings with one slash. Because of its paper-like composure, it can easily dodge attacks, but is vulnerable to fire.

====UB-04 Blaster====
'''UB-04 Blaster''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|UB04 BLASTER|ユービーゼロヨンブラスター}}'''), which is later called {{p|Celesteela}}, appears in [[Pokémon Sun and Moon|Pokémon Moon]]. It can fly at high speeds and can burn down entire forests with the gas that comes out of its arms. This flammable gas also can lift UB-04 Blaster into the air. It is much like a plant and can absorb nutrients from the ground.

{{-}}
[[File:799Guzzlord.png|thumb|200px|UB-05 Glutton]]
===UB-05 Glutton===
'''UB-05 Glutton''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|UB05 GLUTTONY|ユービーゼロゴ　グラトニー}}'''), called {{p|Guzzlord}} by the Pokédex, is characterized by its voracious appetite. It is believed to be able to devour the ground, rivers, and seas. Despite this, it does not produce any waste, leading some to speculate it converts everything it eats to energy to sustain itself.

{{-}}

==In other languages==
{{incomplete|section|needs Korean and Chinese names and UB-01 Symbiont's full names}}
{{Langtable|color={{black color}}|bordercolor={{black color dark}}|textcolor=FFF
|zh_yue=究極異獸 ''{{tt|Gaugihk Yihsau|Ultra Beast}}''
|zh_cmn=究極異獸 / 究极异兽 ''{{tt|Jiūjí Yìshòu|Ultra Beast}}''
|cs=Ultra bestie
|fr=Ultra-Chimère
|de=Ultrabestie
|hu=Ultra Bestia
|it=Ultracreatura
|ko=울트라비스트 ''Ultra Beast''
|pl=Ultra Bestia
|ru=Ультрачудовище ''Ul'trachudovishcha''
|es=Ultraente
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{|
|- style="vertical-align:top"
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''UB-01 Symbiont''
{{Langtable|color={{white color}}|bordercolor={{white color dark}}
|zh_yue=ＵＢ０１
|zh_cmn=ＵＢ０１
|fr=UC-01
|de=UB-01
|it=UC 01
|ko=UB01
|ru=УЧ-01 ''UCH-01''
|es=UE-01
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|- style="vertical-align:top"
|
''UB-02 Absorption''
{{Langtable|color={{black color}}|bordercolor={{red color dark}}|textcolor=FFF
|zh_yue=ＵＢ０２：膨脹 ''{{tt|UB02: Pàahngjeung|UB02: Expansion}}''
|zh_cmn=ＵＢ０２：膨脹 / ＵＢ０２：膨胀 ''{{tt|UB02: Péngzhàng|UB02: Expansion}}''
|fr=UC-02 : Expansion
|de=UB-02 Expander
|hu=UB-02 Elnyelés
|it=UC 02 Expansio
|ko=UB02 익스팬션 ''UB02 Expansion''
|ru=УЧ-02 Поглащение ''UCH-02 Poglashcheniye''
|es=UE-02: Expansión
}}
|
''UB-02 Beauty''
{{Langtable|color={{white color}}|bordercolor={{morning color dark}}
|zh_yue=ＵＢ０２：美麗 ''{{tt|UB02: Méihlaih|UB02: Beauty}}''
|zh_cmn=ＵＢ０２：美麗 / ＵＢ０２：美丽 ''{{tt|UB02: Měilì|UB02: Beauty}}''
|fr=UC-02 : Beauté
|de=UB-02 Schönheit
|hu=UB-02 Szépség
|it=UC 02 Elegantia
|ko=UB02 뷰티 ''UB02 Beauty''
|ru=УЧ-02 Красотка ''UCH-02 Krasotka''
|es=UE-02: Elegancia
}}
|}
{|
|- style="vertical-align:top"
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''UB-03 Lighting''
{{Langtable|color={{black color}}|bordercolor={{white color dark}}
|zh_yue=
|zh_cmn=
|fr=UC-03 : Éclair
|de=UB-03 Lichtblitz
|hu=UB-03 Villámlás
|it=UC 03 Lumen
|ko=
|ru=УЧ-03 Освещение ''UCH-03 Osveshcheniye''
|es=UE-03: Resplandor
}}
|}
{|
|- style="vertical-align:top"
|
''UB-04 Blade''
{{Langtable|color={{white color}}|bordercolor={{white color dark}}
|zh_yue=
|zh_cmn=
|fr=UC-04 : Lame
|de=UB-04 Schwerthieb
|it=UC 04 Sectio
|ko=
|ru=УЧ-04 Лезвие ''UCH-04 Lezviye''
|es=UE-04: Tajo
}}
|
''UB-04 Blaster''
{{Langtable|color={{white color}}|bordercolor={{white color dark}}
|zh_yue=
|zh_cmn=
|fr=UC-04 : Réacteur
|de=UB-04 Zündung
|it=UC 04 Propulsus
|ko=
|ru=УЧ-04 Взрывщик ''UCH-04 Vzryvshchik''
|es=UE-04: Cohete
}}
|}
{|
|- style="vertical-align:top"
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''UB-05 Glutton''
{{Langtable|color={{black color}}|bordercolor={{yellow color dark}}
|zh_yue=
|zh_cmn=
|fr=UC-05 : Gourmandise
|de=UB-05 Vielfraß
|hu=UB-05 Falánk
|it=UC 05 Voracitas
|ko=
|ru=УЧ-05 Несыть ''UCH-05 Nesyt'''
|es=UE-05: Voracidad
}}
|}

{{-}}
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Talk:Decidueye (Pokémon)

2016-11-06T15:10:00Z

AndyPKMN: /* Trivia Fact */

== Name origin ==
Decidueye comes from deciduous and eye.[[User:Ashitic|Ashitic]] ([[User talk:Ashitic|talk]]) 13:36, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
:It also likely draws inspiration from the term "deadeye" used in reference an expert marksman. [[User:Togeknight|~Destruction on Wings~]] ([[User talk:Togeknight|talk]]) 14:53, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
::To expand upon this its Japanese name is ジュナイパー, or Junaipaa. Probably draws from jukai (abundant leafage) and sniper, though I wonder what it'll be officially romanized to since Juniper is literally the name of a type of plant. --[[User:TheMaskedMeowth|TheMaskedMeowth]] ([[User talk:TheMaskedMeowth|talk]]) 15:00, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
:::To further expand, I think the inspiration for Decidueye's questionable typing lies in its name and appearance. Its cloak is brown, like a dead leaf, and "deciduous" refers to leaves that fall from shrubs and trees when they've matured and died (after which they become brown). The Ghost-typing (in place of the Flying-type) is a reference to dead leaves. Just thought I'd share in case anyone was confused. [[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|BNK]][[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|Talk]] 16:57, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
:Funny thing about the "{{wp|deadeye}}" inspiration, I thought it was more "{{wp|hawkeye}}". That's what I get for being into {{wp|Hawkeye (comics)|comic books}} too much. I guess either works, when you think about it. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 20:19, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

==Biology==
"Decidueye is an avian Pokemon closely resembling an owl. Its most prominent feature is a green, leafy hood that covers its head and shoulders. A pale cream-colored feather with a red-orange base extends from the top of the hood. Beneath this cowl, its head is black with a hooked beak and a pale chin, and it has red-orange, spectacle-like markings on its face. Its large eyes have golden-brown irises and red pupils. The hood also features a four-pointed, red-orange leaf below the chin and two leaf-tipped vines that act as drawstrings. Decidueye can use one of these vines as a bowstring to launch arrow quills. The arrows are stored in its wings, which are large and light brown with whitish spots on the uppersides. The red-orange points of the arrow quills are visible in a row along the underside of each wing. The ends of the wings have three pale-tipped feathers which act as fingers, allowing it to grasp the bowstring and nock arrows to attack. The tail consists of three leaves growing from its back. The body is cream-colored with fluffy feathers on the breast and long, powerful legs that are fully feathered. The feet have four sharp talons in a zygodactyl configuration, with two toes forward and two back.

This Pokemon is able to completely mask its presence as it moves around. When it finds an opening, it can draw, nock, and fire an arrow quill in as little as a tenth of a second. The arrows fly with astounding speed and amazing precision, piercing targets from over a half-mile away. Skilled Decidueye are capable of launching curved trick shots, attacking with arrows that soar skyward and drill down from above, striking multiple targets. Although it usually acts very cool, unexpected situations like surprise attacks can leave it terribly flustered." [[User:Togeknight|~Destruction on Wings~]] ([[User talk:Togeknight|talk]]) 14:53, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

== Decidueye's Weight ==

Decidueye is now the lightest final starter evolution. It takes this place from Delphox. [[User:Srushj11|Srushj11]] ([[User talk:Srushj11|talk]]) 20:07, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

I hate to add onto this, but I believe that this should be added to the Trivia section of Decidueye's page. [[User:Srushj11|Srushj11]] ([[User talk:Srushj11|talk]]) 06:45, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

== Origin ==

Although it's currently listed as possibly being inspired by an archer and a barn owl, might it instead be based off a pueo? Pueo are owls only found in Hawaii and are notable for having a white ring around their dark faces, resembling a hood. They have a notable significance in traditional Hawaiian culture, and is one of the forms of the god Kane. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 23:47, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
:That could be a possibility, though there have been plenty of starters that are based on animals that arguably aren't found in the country/part of the world their [[region]] is based off of let alone many Pokémon introduced in a region that isn't based on their real world habitat. If anything, I would think that the possibility that Decidueye is based on a {{wp|pueo}} would go along side the barn owl bit. But that's just me. Also one can fit the pueo inspiration into its {{t|Ghost}} typing, since the pueo is associated with the Hawaiian spirits known as {{wp|aumakua}}. But then again that might be something that was more meant for the [[Guardian deities]] like [[Tapu Koko]]----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 00:03, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
:Another idea, might be crazy, {{wp|stilt-owl}}, they are an extinct owl from Hawaii. Though Decidueye is a {{t|Ghost}} type, not {{t|Rock}}. But like I said, just a crazy idea to add to all this. Take it how you will. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 01:21, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
::No one has any idea what stilt-owls ever looked like, really. But Rowlet's family looks pretty well like a barn owl. If your only connections are "They're owls and they're from Hawaii"...consider looking harder (or just forever nursing the theory in your heart of hearts =P ). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:37, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
:::No, I see no reason not to mention stilt-owls. Decidueye lacks a barn owl's very distinctive face. There's no indication in either the name or the lore that it's specifically a barn owl. It seems to be a mix of a couple of different owl species, or no owl in particular, as opposed to one specific species. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 01:59, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
:Heh. Hey, as I said, it was just a crazy idea I thought I'd add to [[User talk:Mimi|Mimi]]'s {{wp|pueo}} theory. *shrugs* ;) As far as I'm concerned at the moment, Decidueye is an {{wp|archer}}-{{wp|owl}} that may or maynot tie into {{tt|some sort of Hawaiian lore|concerning its sudden Ghost typing}}. That last part is just {{tt|a self-justification on its typing|as I said}} and is basically a "{{tt|WIP|work in progress}}", as I'll just wait and see what else happens. ;) If there are any "dots" that will be connected or the like, then "cool-beans". ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 02:50, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

I'm seeing rumors crop up on Twitter that Decidueye is based on the [[wp:stilt-owl]], an ancient owl that was native to Hawaii, but went extinct some time between Hawaii's initial colonization by what are now native Hawaiians and the arrival of Europeans. They are only known today from fossil record. --[[User:Macsen|Macsen]] ([[User talk:Macsen|talk]]) 13:36, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

It could be possible that Decidueye's design may have been inspired by the {{wp|Ornimegalonyx}}, or the Cuban Giant Owl. This prehistoric owl is noted for its long, powerful legs, a trait that is likely seen with Decidueye's design and description of speed. And as these owls are flightless birds, it can also explain how Decidueye loses its flying typing. ([[User:BizarreJoDo|BizarreJoDo]] ([[User talk:BizarreJoDo|talk]]) 19:07, 28 October 2016 (UTC))

Maybe it's Ghost Typing could come from the evil owl spirit La Lechuza in Mexican folklore. She was an old woman who was murdered by a group of townspeople that considered her a "witch" who now comes back in the form of an owl to attack those who wronged her. A more light hearted basis could be on Santa Muerte (Holy Death) a revered figure of death in Mexican folklore who acts as a protector, healer, and helps with travel into the afterlife. She is often depicted with an owl, as owls are her messengers, and it is even believed that if someone hears the cry of an owl, than death is soon to come. Santa Muerte then guides the soul of the person who died into the afterlife. [[User:Logo7|Logo7]] ([[User talk:Logo7|talk]]) 15:53, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
:Gaijin Goombah is not a reliable frame of reference. Nor is any YouTuber's observation and/or opinion on game design. It has nothing to do with Mexico.--[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 16:11, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
::Sorry, just trying to help. [[User:Logo7|Logo7]] ([[User talk:Logo7|talk]]) 16:12, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
::I honestly didn't know that it wasn't reliable. While I do agree with him, I'll try to remember not to post anything else from him on this site. Sorry for the inconvenience.[[User:Logo7|Logo7]] ([[User talk:Logo7|talk]]) 16:14, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
:::As far as any frame of reference or any source, it is best to stick with primarily the official information that comes straight from {{tt|the designers themselves or Nintendo or Game Freak|i.e. an official announcement from the Pokémon website or something like that}}. Best to avoid any fan-theories from Twitter, a Youtuber, or the like. I mean looking at sources like {{tt|Wikipedia|cautiously, of course, as like this site, people can just edit in something random}} or just a more {{tt|creditable source|question is, what would be considered 'creditable'? IDK, I digress}} is obviously alright. Also, [[User talk:Logo7|Logo]], when replying to someone directly like that, try to use a ":" in front of your reply to indent it. Anyway, for now, Decidueye is based off of {{tt|a species|or more species}} of {{wp|owl}} and an {{wp|archer}}. I'd say that being a {{t|Ghost}} type has at least to do with how {{wp|aumakua|Hawaiians perceive/portray owls in their culture}} but that maybe pushing it as far as me trying to avoid adding {{tt|speculation|best to avoid speculation here}}. And [[User talk:Macsen|Macsen]], I already mentioned the {{wp|stilt-owl}} in my statement a bit above yours and really as I concluded, that seems to be more of a {{tt|[[fossil]]-like scenario anyway|yes, I know Chikorita and Tropius seem to be based off of extinct animals like sauropods, but I still say it might be a stretch, look I already said what I needed to say earlier, just read the conversation from the beginning...}}. Btw, try using two "{"s and "}"s when linking to Wikipedia via template, you won't be stuck with a "wp:" in front. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 19:13, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Although, to be fair, I did know what La Lechuza was before watching that video, I only just made the connection after it. [[User:Logo7|Logo7]] ([[User talk:Logo7|talk]]) 19:20, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

:Could there be some inspiration from Robin Hood? Other than the obvious hood thing, robin hood lived in Sherwood forest (type contribution) and was a famous archer who was stealthy enough to evade capture and rob many of their riches like he was a ghost. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 06:06, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

== Fully Evolved Alola Starters and Mallow leaked ==

Can someone who can edit this page add this to the Trivia section?

*On June 4th, 2016, [http://66.media.tumblr.com/0250e03bd66ab9ca99dc62e78ecf5d7b/tumblr_o8adnyxaSF1qhkgqso1_540.jpg official confidential art] featuring Decidueye, {{p|Incineroar}}, {{p|Primarina}}, and [[Mallow]] was leaked on the internet. This leak happened 145 days before the Fully Evolved Alola Starters' official reveal on October 27, 2016.

Here are my sources. http://www.pokecommunity.com/archive/index.php/t-370057.html <nowiki>http://66.media.tumblr.com/0250e03bd66ab9ca99dc62e78ecf5d7b/tumblr_o8adnyxaSF1qhkgqso1_540.jpg</nowiki>

--[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 00:07, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

== Archduke ==
The French name is also likely a reference to the word "Archduke" {{unsigned|Chuckwoodjohn}}

== Trivia Fact ==

I thought of a good trivia fact.

'''Decidueye is the first starter Pokémon to change one of its types upon evolution.'''
It went from Grass/Flying to Grass/Ghost.
[[User:Chrisbulb|Christian]] ([[User talk:Chrisbulb|talk]]) 00:52, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

:I thought about that, but considering that Rowlet is only the second starter Pokémon to start with two types (after Bulbasaur), it's not like there was a "trend" of dual-type starter Pokémon keeping both types in the first place. I dunno. —[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 15:10, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

New Nintendo 3DS

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The '''New Nintendo 3DS''' (Japanese: '''Newニンテンドー３ＤＳ''' ''New Nintendo 3DS'') is a handheld system created by Nintendo. It was released in Japan on October 11, 2014, Australia on November 21, 2014, Europe on February 13, 2015, South Korea on September 10, 2015, and North America on September 25, 2015.

==Technical specifications==
* Size: 5.6 inches wide, 3.2 inches long, 0.8 inches tall.
* Weight: 8.9 ounces
* Top screen: 3.88-inch widescreen LCD, super-stable 3D capability, 800×240 pixel resolution (400 pixels are allocated for each eye to enable 3D viewing)
* Bottom screen: 3.33-inch LCD, touch screen, 320×240 pixel resolution
* Cameras: One inner camera, two outer cameras, both at 640x480 pixel resolution (0.3 MP)
* Wireless communication: Can communicate in the 2.4 GHz band. Multiple Nintendo 3DS systems can connect via a local wireless connection to let users communicate or enjoy competitive game play. Systems also can connect to LAN access points to access the Internet and allow people to enjoy games with others. Supports IEEE 802.11 with enhanced security (WPA/WPA2). Nintendo 3DS hardware is designed so that even when not in use, it can automatically exchange data with other Nintendo 3DS systems or receive data via the Internet while in sleep mode.
* Game controls: Touch screen, embedded microphone, A/B/X/Y face buttons, + Control Pad, L/R buttons, ZL/ZR buttons, Start and Select buttons, "Circle Pad" and "C Stick" that allows 360-degree analog input, one inner camera, two outer cameras, motion sensor and a gyro sensor.
* Other input controls: 3D Depth Slider to adjust level of 3D effect (can be scaled back or turned off completely depending on the preference of the user), volume slider to change and mute the volume, Home button to call system function, Power button. The stylus is approximately 3 inches.
* Input/Output: A port that accepts Nintendo 3DS, Nintendo DSi, and Nintendo DS game cards, an SD memory card slot, an AC adapter connector, a charging cradle terminal, and a stereo headphone output jack.
* Sound: Stereo speakers positioned to the left and right of the top screen.
* Battery: Lithium ion battery.
* Parental controls: Included.
* Other: Two "Cover Plates" that can be removed and replaced with other ones that have designs on them (sold separately). One goes on the top of the system and can be removed using only the stylus. The other one goes on the bottom of the system and can only be removed using both a screwdriver and the stylus, acting as the battery compartment cover.

==Comparison to the original Nintendo 3DS==
*The New Nintendo 3DS (5.6 inches wide, 3.2 inches long, 0.8 inches tall) is larger than the original [[Nintendo 3DS]] (5.3 inches wide, 2.9 inches long, 0.8 inches tall).
*The New Nintendo 3DS uses face tracking to make 3D consistent even when it is tilted.
*The New Nintendo 3DS loads games and downloads software faster than the original 3DS.
*The New Nintendo 3DS has a built-in second Circle Pad (C-Stick). The original Nintendo 3DS and Nintendo 3DS XL require the Circle Pad Pro and Circle Pad Pro XL, respectively, to achieve the same functionality; these peripherals require their own batteries and occupy the Nintendo 3DS system's [[infrared]] port.
*The battery of the New Nintendo 3DS lasts longer than the battery of the original Nintendo 3DS.

==Pokémon games==
All releases listed are the year in which the Japanese version was released.

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| Action RPG
| 2011
|- style="background:#FFF"
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| 2012
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokémon X and Y]]
| Main series RPG
| 2013
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokémon Art Academy]]
| Art training
| 2014
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS/Wii U|Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS]]
| Versus fighter
| 2014
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire]]
| Main series RPG
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|-
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| [[Pokémon Sun and Moon]]
| Main series RPG
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===Nintendo eShop===
The {{wp|Nintendo eShop}} uses the Internet to purchase and download select full 3DS titles, 3DS-exclusive downloadable games (including {{wp|3D Classics}}), {{wp|DSiWare}}, and [[Virtual Console]] games with money uploaded onto the player's account.

{{consolegames}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokédex 3D]]
| Utility
| 2011
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokémon Dream Radar]]
| First-person shooter
| 2012
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokédex 3D Pro]]
| Utility
| 2012
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokémon Bank]]
| Utility
| 2013
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Poké Transporter]]
| Utility
| 2013
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokémon Battle Trozei]]
| Puzzle
| 2014
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[The Thieves and the 1000 Pokémon]]
| Action
| 2014
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Pokémon Alpha Sapphire Special Demo Version]]
| Main series RPG (demo)
| 2014
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokémon Shuffle]]
| Puzzle
| 2015
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokémon Rumble World]]
| Action RPG
| 2015
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokémon Picross]]
| Puzzle
| 2015
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Great Detective Pikachu ~Birth of a New Duo~]]
| Cinematic adventure
| 2016
|-
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybl|5px}}" | [[Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon Special Demo Version]]
| style="background:#FFF" | Main series RPG (demo)
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybr|5px}}" | 2016
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====Retail titles====
Select Nintendo 3DS retail software titles are available to download via the Nintendo eShop since August 2012.

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| [[Pokémon Rumble Blast]]
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| 2012
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity]]
| Dungeon crawler
| 2012
| 2012
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokémon X and Y]]
| Main series RPG
| 2013
| 2013
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokémon Art Academy]]
| Art training
| 2014
| 2014
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS/Wii U|Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS]]
| Versus fighter
| 2014
| 2014
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire]]
| Main series RPG
| 2014
| 2014
|-
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybl|5px}}" | [[Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon]]
| style="background:#FFF" | Dungeon crawler
| style="background:#FFF" | 2015
| style="background:#FFF;" | 2015
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokémon Sun and Moon]]
| Main series RPG
| 2016
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====Virtual Console games====
[[Virtual Console]] games are old games that were originally released on past consoles, and have now been re-released on the Nintendo eShop. They can be downloaded after being bought.

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| Card game
| [[Game Boy Color]]
| 1998
| 2014
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| [[Pokémon Puzzle Challenge]]
| Puzzle
| [[Game Boy Color]]
| 2000
| 2014
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| {{game|Red and Green|s}}
| Main series RPG
| [[Game Boy]]
| 1996
| 2016
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{game|Blue| (Japanese)}}
| Main series RPG
| [[Game Boy]]
| 1996
| 2016
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| {{game|Red and Blue|s}}
| Main series RPG
| [[Game Boy]]
| {{tt|1998|Based on the North American release date, as the games were released under different names in Japan}}
| 2016
|-
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====Patches====
Patches for various Pokémon games have been released on the Nintendo eShop. Additionally, Pokémon Shuffle can update itself when performing the daily check-in, but such updates cannot be downloaded through the Nintendo eShop. If an update is available on Nintendo eShop for a game the player has, the update has not been downloaded yet and there is an attempt to launch that game while connected to the internet, the system will inform the player of the update and offer to go straight to the update in Nintendo eShop to download it.

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| Pokémon X and Y patches
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| Pokémon Bank patches
| Update
| 2013 - 2014
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Pokémon Art Academy patch
| Update
| 2014
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS patches
| Update
| 2014
|-
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybl|5px}}" | Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire patches
| style="background:#FFF" | Update
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybr|5px}}" | 2014
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===Via backwards compatibility===
The 3DS can be used to play games playable in the [[Nintendo DS]] series of systems, excluding [[Game Boy Advance]] games.

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|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokémon Dash]]
| Racing game
| 2004
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokémon Trozei!]]
| Puzzle game
| 2005
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team]]
| Dungeon crawler
| 2005
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{ga|Pokémon Ranger}}
| Action RPG
| 2006
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}
| Main series RPG
| 2006
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness]]
| Dungeon crawler
| 2007
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia]]
| Action RPG
| 2008
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{game|Platinum}}
| Main series RPG
| 2008
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky]]
| Dungeon crawler
| 2009
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}
| Main series RPG
| 2009
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs]]
| Action RPG
| 2010
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{game|Black and White|s}}
| Main series RPG
| 2010
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Learn with Pokémon: Typing Adventure]]
| Typing
| 2011
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokémon Card Game: How to Play DS]]
| Card game
| 2011
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[Pokémon Conquest]]
| Turn-based strategy
| 2012
|-
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybl|5px}}" | [[Pokémon Black and White Versions 2|Pokémon Black 2 and White 2]]
| style="background:#FFF" | Main series RPG
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybr|5px}}" | 2012
|}{{left clear}}

==Gallery==
<gallery>
New Nintendo 3DS Black.png|A black New Nintendo 3DS
New 3DS no cover plates.png|Back of a Black New Nintendo 3DS without cover plates
New 3DS cover plates Groudon and Kyogre.png|Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire cover plates
New 3DS cover plates Pikachu.png|Pokémon: Pikachu Party cover plates
New 3DS cover plates Super Mystery Dungeon.png|Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon cover plates
New 3DS cover plates Red Green.png|Pokémon Red and Green Versions cover plates
New 3DS cover plates Super Smash Bros.png|Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS cover plates (features Pikachu)
New 3DS Cover Plates Charizard.jpg|Pokémon Red Version 20th Anniversary cover plates
New 3DS Cover Plates Blastoise.jpg|Pokémon Blue Version 20th Anniversary cover plates
</gallery>

==External links==
*[http://www.nintendo.co.uk/games/oms/new-nintendo-3ds/index.html Nintendo of Europe - New Nintendo 3DS]
*[http://www.nintendo.com.au/new-nintendo-3ds/ Nintendo of Australia - New Nintendo 3DS]
*[http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/new/ Nintendo of Japan - New Nintendo 3DS]
*{{wp|New Nintendo 3DS}} on Wikipedia
*{{sw|Category:New Nintendo 3DS}} on [[StrategyWiki]]
*{{nw|New Nintendo 3DS}} on [[NintendoWiki]]

==References==
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Talk:Player character

2016-10-25T16:18:41Z

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Mahalo Trail

2016-10-23T18:30:53Z

AndyPKMN: Adding a table for items in the special demo version

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{{Infobox location
|type=mountain
|location_name=Mahalo Trail
|japanese_name=マハロさんどう
|translated_name=Mahalo Mountain Trail
|location=[[Melemele Island]]
|mapdesc=
|region=Alola
|generation={{gen|VII}}
}}
'''Mahalo Trail''' (Japanese: '''マハロさんどう''' ''Mahalo Mountain Trail'') is a location in [[Alola]].

In the [[Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon Special Demo Version]], a woman at the east end of the road in front of the [[Hau'oli City]] Pokémon Center will guide the player here. She will also guide the player back to the city from the trail. At the top of the trail, the player will encounter a "mysterious" man in a red shirt who will give the player {{DL|Valuable item|Stardust}} to transfer to their full game. The player can revisit him, but the man will have no further gifts for them.

==Geography==
The Mahalo Trail is a narrow trail that winds upward through mountainous terrain. The trail cuts through the terrain in a switchback fashion, forming steep walls to either side. The top of these walls often rises into more cliffs and hills, or grows wild with a variety of trees and bushes. Piles of rock large and small occasionally block the trail, requiring the services of a {{p|Tauros}} as a [[Poké Ride|Ride Pokémon]] to pass. In some places, stout statues dot the sides of the trail, with some statues positioned atop the walls of the trail as well. The trail eventually comes to a dead end where four statues sit in a square, each facing the center.

==Items==
===[[Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon Special Demo Version]]===
{{Itlisth|mountain}}
{{Itemlist|Stardust|From a man at the end of [[Mahalo Trail]]|Su=yes|M=yes|display={{DL|Valuable item|Stardust}} ×3}}
{{Itlistfoot|mountain}}

==Name origin==
Mahalo is a Hawaiian word meaning "Thank you".

==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{locationcolor/light|mountain}}|bordercolor={{locationcolor/dark|mountain}}|textcolor={{locationcolor/text|mountain}}
|zh_yue=馬哈羅山路 ''{{tt|Máhhālòh Sāanlouh|Mahalo Mountain Road}}''
|zh_cmn=馬哈羅山路 / 马哈罗山路 ''{{tt|Mǎhāluó Shānlù|Mahalo Mountain Road}}''
|fr=Sentier Mahalo
|de=Mahalo-Bergpfad
|it=Sentiero Mahalo
|ko=마할로 산길 ''Mahalo San-gil''
|es=Senda Mahalo
}}
{{Alola}} 
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[[de:Mahalo-Bergpfad]]
[[it:Sentiero Mahalo]]

Hau'oli City

2016-10-23T18:17:25Z

AndyPKMN: /* Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon Special Demo Version */

{{Town infobox
|name=Hau'oli City
|jpname=ハウオリシティ
|jptrans=Hauʻoli City
|image=
|size=
|region=Alola
|generation=7
|slogan=
|mapdesc=
|north=Ten Carat Hill
|regionnorth=
|east=Mahalo Trail
|colordark=488AC7
|colormed=519EE2
|colorlight=5CB3FF
}}
'''Hau'oli City''' (Japanese: '''ハウオリシティ''' ''Hauʻoli City'') is a coastal city situated on [[Melemele Island]] of the [[Alola]] region. It is the main location of the [[Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon Special Demo Version]]. It has a Shopping District and a Marina.

==Places of interest==
===Shopping District===
====City Hall====
The City Hall is located in the Shopping District, south of the local Pokémon Center. Its motto is "Serving the city's every needs". Clerks working here deal with the process of moving to the region, amongst other things.

====Hau'oli Police Station====
The Hau'oli Police Station is located in the Shopping District, on the way to the Marina. There is a police vehicle parked in its backyard.

====Alola Tourist Bureau====
The Alola Tourist Bureau is located in the Shopping District. It exhibits a promotional video of the Alola region and hosts plenty of local goods and souvenirs.

====Malasada shop====
The city's malasada shop is located in the Shopping District, on the way to the Marina. It is famous for its malasadas, which are crispy on the outside and fluffy on the inside.

===Marina===
====Melemele Ferry Terminal====
The Melemele Ferry Terminal is located in the Marina. Although it features a blurred information panel, ferries cannot be boarded during the Demo.

==Items==
===[[Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon Special Demo Version]]===
{{itlisth|water}}
{{Itemlist|Super Potion|From [[Hau]] in the Pokémon Center|Su=yes|M=yes|display={{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}}}
{{Itemlist|Pretty Wing|From the man in front of the Pokémon Center on the day after the game was first saved|Su=yes|M=yes|display={{DL|Valuable item|Pretty Wing}} ×10}}
{{itlistfoot|water}}

==Pokémon==
===Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon Special Demo Version===
* {{p|Pikachu}}, Lv. 20-23
* {{p|Pikipek}}, Lv. 20-23
* {{p|Yungoos}}, Lv. 20-23
* {{p|Rockruff}}, Lv. 20-23


==Trainers==
===Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon Special Demo Version===
{{trainerheader|building}}
{{trainerentry|VSTeam Skull Grunt M.png{{!}}150px|Team Skull Grunt||800|1|???|Yungoos|♂|25}}
{{trainerfooter|building|7}}

==In other languages==
{| class="roundy" style="background:#5CB3FF; border: 3px solid #519EE2"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Japanese
| ハウオリシティ ''Hauʻoli City''
| From ''hauʻoli'' (Hawaiian for happy)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| English
| Hau'oli City
| Same as Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| French
| Ekaeka
| Possibly from ''ake'' (Hawaiian for desire)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| German
| Hauholi City
| Same as Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Italian
| Hau'oli
| Same as Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Spanish
| Ciudad Hauoli
| Same as Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Korean
| 하우올리시티 ''Hauʻoli City''
| Transliteration of Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and mainland China}})
| 好奧樂市 / 好奥乐市 ''Hǎo'àolè Shì''
| Transliteration of Japanese name. Contains 好 ''hǎo'' (good) and 樂 / 乐 ''lè'' (happy).
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Cantonese|Hong Kong}})
| 好奧樂市 ''Hóu'oulohk Síh''
| Mandarin-based transliteration of Japanese name. Contains 好 ''hóu'' (good) and 樂 ''lohk'' (happy).
|}

{{Alola}} 
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Talk:Battle Bond (Ability)

2016-10-23T18:08:48Z

AndyPKMN:

==Russian name==
Could someone in the staff add this to the Russian name, ''Uzy Srazheniya''. Thank you. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 17:53, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

== "Water Shuriken becomes more powerful" ==

(This affects more than this page.) The descriptions says that, yes, but I guess it's just the description. From what I've checked in the demo, the [[power]] of Water Shuriken stays the same. Instead, Greninja's stats increase. For me, it was 107/98/61/104/64/130 before and 107/135/61/141/64/137 after transforming. So what makes Water Shuriken "more powerful" is the increased SpAtk, and I don't think there's anything to Water Shuriken specifically. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:32, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

The ability gurantees Water Shuriken to hit 5 times. [[User:FIQ|FIQ]] ([[User talk:FIQ|talk]]) 21:30, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
:In that case, wouldn't it make more sense to specifically mention that effect and the stat boost that comes with the form change rather than the vague "becomes more powerful"? —[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 18:08, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Litten (Pokémon)

2016-10-23T17:59:40Z

AndyPKMN: /* Basis */

==Litten's Name Origin==
I am sure it is based off of the words little, lit, and kitten, similar to Litleo. [[User:Chomper4|Chomper4]] ([[User talk:Chomper4|talk]]) 12:59, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
:The name Litten may also be based on the Norwegian Liten meaning small. And I suspect that the '''Li''' part may be based on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liger Liger] (A hybrid cross between a lion and a tiger.) but we have to wait for the final evolution before we can confirm or de confirm that one. --[[User:Basinox|Basinox]] ([[User talk:Basinox|talk]]) 14:06, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

::I think this is getting a bit too speculative. There isn't much reason to assume that the English name is based off of Norwegian at the moment. Lit an kitten can be assumed, but little and liger seem like a stretch to add as many meanings as possible without any substantial support. This is an issue that I'm seeing on a lot of pages where one or two letters are used as a justification for adding as many semi-related words without any real support. --[[User:KingStarscream|KingStarscream]] ([[User talk:KingStarscream|talk]]) 21:12, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

:::I simply wonder why anyone hasn't considered that litter may be part of the name. It is a very important part of taking care of a cat, after all. --[[User:GameCubeAdvance|GameCubeAdvance]] ([[User talk:GameCubeAdvance|talk]]) 21:55, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
::::That's too farfetch'd. Sure it has some kind of connection but still not a reference. And besides that's only if the cat's domestic, a wild cat wouldn't have a litterbox now would it? --[[User:Raltseye|Ralts]][[User talk:Raltseye|eye]] 22:16, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Regarding its Japanese name, Nyabby, where are people seeing "火 hi (fire)" anywhere? I think it's far too speculative to say that word had any part of this Pokemon's name. It's not like "Hihidaruma". --[[User:Kianglo|KiANGLO]] ''([[User talk:Kianglo|TALK]])'' 01:40, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
:There are words like 花火, where 火 is 'bi'. That's how Japanese usually works when you join a voicable sound with another word/kanji. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:54, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

::I believe the word "nab" may have something to do with the Japanese name origin. [[User:Scruffyfan|Scruffyfan]] ([[User talk:Scruffyfan|talk]]) 13:22, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
:::Litter is also a 'group of young animals born to an animal at a time...
:::[[User:PkmnTrainerV|The legendary PkmnTrainerV is Here!]] ([[User talk:PkmnTrainerV|talk]]) 10:48, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

== head symbol? ==

could the markings on its head be a kenji simbol like キ?[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 14:32, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

:Nope. Its from the Alchemical symbol for Sulfur. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Sulfur_symbol_1_2.svg [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] ([[User talk:PowerPlantRaichu|talk]]) 19:59, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
::While there have been some theories that it could be a alchemic symbol called the Leviathan Cross (or simply Brimstone Symbol in Asia). But it is more likely just the style they used to draw the stripes on his head. A style which is fairly not uncommon in Japan. --[[User:Basinox|Basinox]] ([[User talk:Basinox|talk]]) 20:09, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
:::I wouldn't call it more likely. It'd be a pretty weird coincidence. Still though, at this point its anyone's guess. Hopefully one of its evolutions will make the design's purpose more clear, but i'm not counting on it XD [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] ([[User talk:PowerPlantRaichu|talk]]) 11:07, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

the head symbol, along with it's eyes could be the alchemic symbol for fire. this could point to the alola starters and some pokemon being based off alchemy {{unsigned|Philip.spence}}
:More specifically the head symbol along with its eyes resemble sulfur symbol, sulfur is a gas emanated by magma. {{unsigned|Pescavelho}}

== Chinese Zodiac ==

There's been a trend for Fire-type starters and their evolutionary lines to be based off of an animal in the Chinese Zodiac. Charizard is a '''dragon''', Cyndaquil is a '''rat''', Torchic & Combusken are '''roosters''', the Chimchar line consists of '''monkeys''', the Tepig line consists of '''pigs''', and the Fennekin line consists of foxes, a type of wild '''dog'''. Litten appears to be based off of a '''tiger''', furthering this trend; it would be a good idea to add this to the main article under "origin." {{unsigned|KingStarscream}}
:This is a very popular theory, but I'm hesitant on it. Largely because Cyndaquil being a rat is a smidge of a stretch. Additionally, we should wait until more is known about Litten. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 22:21, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
::I think that if the final evolution ends up being a tiger than its real life influence is probably partly based on the Tiger Tabby Cat. Which while it current design does allure to this, with the way the stripes are designed, must still be considered a stretch as it has a lot more in common with the typical Bombay cat. --[[User:Basinox|Basinox]] ([[User talk:Basinox|talk]]) 20:18, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
:Cyndaquil is based on an echnidna, which isn't even a rodent, and its final evolved form is a badger, which still isn't a rodent. It's like saying Donphan is a sofa. If you have to change something to make it fit the pattern, there is no pattern. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 14:23, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
::Just saying, but Cyndaquil's category is "Fire Mouse Pokemon" or "ひねずみ" ねずみ　can correlate to 鼠　which can mean mouse or rat and the same character is also used for the Rat zodiac --[[User:Pdpd999|Pdpd999]] ([[User talk:Pdpd999|talk]]) 13:34, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
:::What Cyndaquil's category is is irrelevant. It is still not a rat, it is not '''based''' off a rat, which this whole theory relies on.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:44, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

== Trivia Evolution ==
Don't we have his final evolution and the final evolution of {{p|Popplio}} on the {{g|Sun and Moon}} boxarts? If they are, shouldn't they be added to the Trivia or somewhere else? [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]) 06:39, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
:There is nothing to suggest the two Pokémon on the boxart are at all related to Popplio or Litten. Plus, there are too many differences between them for them to be evolutions, especially as Popplio and the Moon Pokémon are vastly different species (which doesn't mean anything in Pokémon, but still). I'm pretty sure the two Pokémon on the boxart are completely unrelated Legendaries. --[[User:S2daam|--samm :D]] 06:50, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

== Litten's Origin ==

It's pretty obvious Litten's a black cat, but has it been pointed out yet that it could possibly be a play on Bombay? It's a breed of cat that happens to be very intelligent and caring with solid black fur and bright yellow eyes, like Litten. If it really is supposedly a bomb cat with the fuse and sulfur, wouldn't it make sense for it to possibly be from Bombay cats? Err, sorry, this is going a little into speculation, but I thought I should at least point it out. [[User:Drbiohazmat|Drbiohazmat]] ([[User talk:Drbiohazmat|talk]]) 22:04, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
:Litten's Japanese name as well as it's stripes suggest it is based on a tabby.[[User:Robbie|Robbie]] ([[User talk:Robbie|talk]]) 16:57, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
::Actually, its stripes seem to suggest that it's a tiger. The ones on its head are especially distinctive to the way cartoon tigers are often drawn. And then there's the coloring, too. --[[User:Kianglo|KiANGLO]] ''([[User talk:Kianglo|TALK]])'' 01:40, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
:::If it was tiger, it would have a thicker body and legs and round ears. Tabbies have stripes too.{{unsigned|Robbie}}
::::Yeah, and Giraffes have longer necks and Mammoths have trunks. But look what happened to Girafarig and Mamoswine, Pokemon doesn't necessarily have to follow real world things.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:01, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
:::::Some do. Compare Litten and Litleo.[[User:Robbie|Robbie]] ([[User talk:Robbie|talk]]) 12:21, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
::::I don't think the fact that it doesn't have a thick body and legs disqualifies it from being a tiger. It's still in its most basic stage--as an unevolved Pokémon, you can't really expect it to necessarily have those traits.
::::Look at it this way. Even {{p|Growlithe}}'s page mentions that it has traits of tigers, and that evolutionary line is decidedly canine-based. Tigers absolutely deserve a mention in Litten's case. I'm also going to agree with the point that some Pokémon are more loosely based on their real-life counterpart species than others. I mean, {{p|Pikachu}} hardly looks like a mouse... --[[User:Kianglo|KiANGLO]] ''([[User talk:Kianglo|TALK]])'' 06:36, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
:::::It has no body stripes. It barely has ANY stripes (just headstripes and rings around its legs), and certainly not enough to cry tiger at this moment. Growlithe, however, has the tiger stripes from the start and continue into their evolution, plus hindsight to the fact we know its entire line. There's no prove ''yet'' the Litten line was going to be tiger-based, but if that's where its' line goes, we'll mention it. But right now it's an ordinary house cat. With flaming hairballs. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 15:50, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

== Number ==

In one of the japanese trailers released June 2nd, 2016 the pokedex numbers was shown for Alola and Litten is given 4 this should be reflected here DSDark 23:09, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
:I agree, there's enough conclusive evidence to say that it's definitely "#004 Alola". If they were going to split the dex into parts like with Kalos, the "part" could be added in later. Compare the template of any Gen VI Pokémon (such as {{p|Chespin}}) to see what I mean. --[[User:Kianglo|KiANGLO]] [[User talk:Kianglo|TALK]] 04:21, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
::Keep in mind that updating a heavily used template like that infobox also puts a load on the wiki, so we (staff) may prefer to wait until we know the subdivisions anyway just so we're not going through that twice. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:01, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
:::This also means the Litten is No. 725 in the National Dex {{unsigned|Theexploringgamer}}
::::There could be a number 0 in the alola dex (ala Victini), so we're not assuming its national dex number.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:35, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
:::::If there is a number 0, this still means that they would be in the 720s. Could it be possible to put Rowlet, Litten, and Popplio as #72? for now? [[User:Theexploringgamer|Theexploringgamer]] ([[User talk:Theexploringgamer|talk]]) 14:16, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
::::::NO assumptions, thank you. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:33, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
:::::::There's no point in putting a partial number. We all know in our hearts that it'll probably be in the 720s, but there is honestly no reason at all to put anything that's not the official National Pokédex number. We have no use for a number we're not sure on. — [[User:Kianglo|KiANGLO]] [[User talk:Kianglo|TALK]] 03:57, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

== Typo ==

There's a typo in the Biology part of the article, where it says "then use it form fireballs" [[User:Alex Longclaw|Alex Longclaw]] ([[User talk:Alex Longclaw|talk]]) 18:10, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
:Fixed; thanks for pointing it out. --[[User:Carmenstar97|Carmen★]] ''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|(Talk |]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|contribs)]]'' 18:14, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

== Basis ==

Considering that the island where you can get Litten, Melemele Island, is based off of Oahu, could the fact that Litten is a cat be based off of the fact that there is an overpopulation of feral cats on Oahu and other Hawaiian Islands? [[User:Logo7|Logo7]] ([[User talk:Logo7|talk]]) 15:15, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
:Just because it is clearly based on a cat and available in a region based on Hawaii doesn't mean that it's origin is necessarily related to that fact. Unless the Pokédex, animé, or some other source gives any implication that Litten (which will presumably only be obtainable in-game as a starter) is supposedly abundant in Alola or that specific corresponding island, I would not consider that a part of its basis. —[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 17:59, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Ten Carat Hill

2016-10-18T22:13:11Z

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==Connecting Locations==

Is it really safe to assume that Hau'oli City is actually directly to the south of Ten Carat Hill? The fact that the demo has a man guide you from the north end of Hau'oli City to the south end of Ten Carat Hill in the demo does not necessarily indicate that the two locations are actually directly connected, and could in fact be meant to compensate for the two locations being farther apart in the final game. —[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 22:13, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Mauville City

2016-10-02T20:03:49Z

AndyPKMN: /* Move Tutors */

{{incomplete|needs=Manga info}}
{{Town infobox
|name=Mauville City
|jpname=キンセツシティ
|jptrans=Kinsetsu City
|image=Mauville City.png
|slogan=The bright and shiny city of fun!
|mapdesc=This large city is located in the heart of the Hoenn region, at the crossroads of its nostalgic past and new technology.
|region=Hoenn
|north=Route 111
|regionnorth=Hoenn
|west=Route 117
|regionwest=Hoenn
|east=Route 118
|regioneast=Hoenn
|south=Route 110
|regionsouth=Hoenn
|gym=Mauville Gym
|gymno=3
|leader=Wattson
|leadersprite=VSWattson.png{{!}}150px
|badge=Dynamo
|gymtype=Electric
|colordark=DA70D6
|colormed=dc8fea
|colorlight=E0B0FF
|generation=3
}}

'''Mauville City''' (Japanese: '''{{j|キンセツシティ}}''' ''Kinsetsu City'') is located in central [[Hoenn]] and serves as the hub for travelers throughout the Hoenn region. The city is also notable for its [[old guys]].

The roads of the town stretch north to {{rt|111|Hoenn}}, west to {{rt|117|Hoenn}} and [[Verdanturf Town]], east to a beach on {{rt|118|Hoenn}}, and south to {{rt|110|Hoenn}}.

[[Wattson]] is the [[Gym Leader]] and founder of Mauville. In {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}, he originally had plans to do a complete overhaul of the town, but abandoned them. In {{g|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}, Wattson instead managed to redevelop it, modeled on [[Lumiose City]] of [[Kalos]]. Due to this, its layout has changed dramatically, becoming a mostly-indoor city with various shops and floors.

==Slogan==
'''''The bright and shiny city of fun!''''' (Japanese: '''{{j|あかるく　かがやく　たのしい　まち}}''' ''The bright and shiny city of fun.'')

==Places of interest==
===Rydel's Cycles===
{{main|Rydel's Cycles}}
A bike shop is located in Mauville City which is called [[Rydel's Cycles]]. It is very conveniently located for the owner and customers alike, as the [[Seaside Cycling Road]] runs on {{rt|110|Hoenn}}, just to the south. [[Rydel]] sells {{DL|Bicycle|Acro Bike}}s and {{DL|Bicycle|Mach Bike}}s. However, he will give the {{player}} a bike for free after he finds out that the player has come all the way from [[Littleroot Town]] with just [[Running Shoes]]. The player may exchange their bike with Rydel for the other bike.

In [[Generation VI]], after the [[Delta Episode]], the player has the opportunity to carry both bikes at the same time. After advertising the bikes to certain NPCs, the player will receive the counterpart bike of the one they are currently using as thanks for their continued advertisement of the Rydel brand. The NPCs are located:

* {{rt|111|Hoenn}} [[Desert]]: A {{tc|Hex Maniac}} up a muddy slope to the north that requires the Mach Bike to climb.
* {{rt|119|Hoenn}}: A {{tc|Bird Keeper}} at the northmost maze of bridges, requires {{m|Surf}} and {{m|Waterfall}} along with the Acro Bike.
* [[Battle Resort]]: A biking {{tc|Triathlete}} southeast of the [[Pokémon Day Care]].

===Mauville Game Corner===
{{main|Mauville Game Corner}}
In [[Generation III]], the [[Mauville Game Corner]] is a tourist attraction where people can gamble coins on slots or roulette. This game corner houses two roulette wheels and sixteen slot machines. A [[Coin Case]] is needed to play at the game corner, which can also be found in one of the houses at Mauville City, in exchange for Harbor Mail.

In [[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire]], the Game Corner is closed, with the owner stating that he had to close it for "reasons you don't need to know".
On the closed door, a notice reads:
:''"Thank you for your support over the years. Good game!"''
:''"Mauville Game Corner Owner"''

===Mauville Gym===
{{main|Mauville Gym}}
The Mauville Gym specializes in {{type|Electric}} Pokémon. Wattson, the Gym leader hands out the Dynamo Badge to players who defeat him. The Gym contains electric dividers that turn on or off when different switches are stepped on.

===Vending Machine===
In [[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire]], there is a [[Vending Machine]] on the first floor to the east of the {{rt|110|Hoenn}} entrance.
{{shop|}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Fresh Water|200}}|{{shopitem|Soda Pop|300}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Lemonade|350}}}}
{{shopfooter}}

===Mauville Food Court===
{{main|Mauville Food Court}}
In Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, the Mauville Food Court allows the player places an order for food at one of the three counters. After paying, the player is given an amount of turns to wait for their meal. Taking a seat, the player is then challenged to battle by a gauntlet of Trainers trying to take their seat away.

===Crooner's Café===
In Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, the bartender at this café will give the player {{TM|48|Round}}.

Outside, a sign reads:
:''"A Mellow Blend of Coffee & Music"''
:''"Crooner's Café"''

===Narcissus Mirror Shop===
In Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, the owner of this shop will give the player a [[Reveal Glass]] if they have {{p|Thundurus}}, {{p|Tornadus}}, or {{p|Landorus}} in their party.

Outside, a sign reads:
:''"We See Eye to Eye"''
:''"Narcissus Mirror Shop"''

===Move Tutors===
In {{game|Emerald}}, near Mauville Gym is a man who will teach a compatible Pokémon {{m|Rollout}} one time only.

In Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, two [[Move Tutor]]s set up shop in southeastern Mauville. The northern move tutor will teach {{m|Frenzy Plant}}, {{m|Blast Burn}}, or {{m|Hydro Cannon}} to any fully evolved [[starter Pokémon]] that also has maximum [[Friendship]]. The southern move tutor will teach {{m|Grass Pledge}}, {{m|Fire Pledge}}, or {{m|Water Pledge}} to any starter Pokémon.

Another move tutor can be found in Crooner's Café, who will teach {{p|Keldeo}} and {{p|Meloetta}} their respective [[signature move]]s, {{m|Secret Sword}} and {{m|Relic Song}}.

====Moves taught====
{| style="margin: auto"
| style="vertical-align:top" |
{{tutormv/header|oras|none|no}}
{{tutormv|Frenzy Plant|Grass|cat=Special}}
{{tutormv|Blast Burn|Fire|cat=Special}}
{{tutormv|Hydro Cannon|Water|cat=Special}}
|}
|}
| style="vertical-align:top" |
{{tutormv/header|oras|none|no}}
{{tutormv|Grass Pledge|Grass|cat=Special}}
{{tutormv|Fire Pledge|Fire|cat=Special}}
{{tutormv|Water Pledge|Water|cat=Special}}
|}
|}
| style="vertical-align:top" |
{{tutormv/header|oras|none|no}}
{{tutormv|Secret Sword|Fighting|cat=Special}}
{{tutormv|Relic Song|Normal|cat=Special}}
|}
|}
|}

===Battle Institute Hoenn===
{{main|Battle Institute}}
The Battle Institute on the east side of the first floor works in the same way as the one in Lumiose City in [[Kalos]]. The player can opt for a Battle Test (five consecutive single or double battles) or a Download Test (which can be downloaded either wirelessly or via Wi-Fi at certain time, similar to event Pokémon). The player can win [[Battle Point|Battle Points]] here.

Outside, a sign reads:
:''"Test Your Battle Mettle!"''
:''"Battle Institute Hoenn"''

===Inverse Battle Stop===
{{main|Inver}}
Next to the Battle Institute is the Inverse Battle Stop. Here, the player can battle [[Inver]], the same {{tc|Psychic}} who challenges players to Inverse Battles in Kalos. Inver uses a different pool of Pokémon compared to the ones he used in {{pkmn|X and Y}}, and they start at [[level]] 20 as opposed to level 55. Inver has many preset Pokémon, but only chooses a random three during the battle. In addition, his Pokémon's [[Ability|Abilities]] may vary, even potentially having their Hidden Abilities. After he is defeated, Inver will give the player an item depending on how well they did.

A sign outside the building reads:
:''"Same Old Battles Got You Down? Turn It Up!"''
:''"Inverse Battle Stop"''

===Ritzy Ribbon Retail===
In Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, a store north of the exit to {{rt|117|Hoenn}} will sell expensive Ribbons previously sold by the [[Ribbon Syndicate]] of [[Sinnoh]].

Outside the shop, a sign reads:
:''"For Pokémon That Aim for a Higher Rank"''
:''"Ritzy Ribbon Retail"''

{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{locationcolor/med|road}}; border: 3px solid #{{locationcolor/dark|road}}"
|-
! style="background: #{{locationcolor/light|road}}; {{roundytl|5px}}"| Gorgeous Ribbon
! style="background: #{{locationcolor/light|road}};"| Royal Ribbon
! style="background: #{{locationcolor/light|road}}; {{roundytr|5px}}"| Gorgeous Royal Ribbon
|- style="background: #FFF; text-align:center"
| [[File:Gorgeous Ribbon.png‎]]
| [[File:Royal Ribbon.png]]
| [[File:Gorgeous Royal Ribbon.png]]
|-
| style="background: #FFF; text-align:center; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{PDollar}}10,000
| style="background: #FFF; text-align:center" | {{PDollar}}100,000
| style="background: #FFF; text-align:center; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{PDollar}}999,999
|}

===PokéMileage Center===
In the northwest area of the first floor, a {{tc|Gentleman}} will allow the player to exchange their [[Poké Mile]]s for items. His function and wares are identical to that of the Poké Mile store in {{pkmn|X and Y}}.

Outside, a sign reads:
:''"Collect Miles and Turn Them into Smiles"''
:''"PokéMileage Center"''

{{shop|Gentleman}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Berry Juice|10|PM}}|{{shopitem|Moomoo Milk|20|PM}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Full Heal|30|PM}}|{{shopitem|Max Repel|35|PM}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Hyper Potion|60|PM}}|{{shopitem|Ultra Ball|60|PM}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Ether|120|PM}}|{{shopitem|Max Potion|125|PM}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Full Restore|300|PM}}|{{shopitem|Max Revive|400|PM}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Rare Candy|500|PM}}|{{shopitem|PP Up|1,000|PM}}}}
{{shopfooter}}

===Pokémon Reflexology Services===
North of the Poké Miles shop is a [[Pokémon groomer]] who will offer to massage the player's lead Pokémon for free once per day.

Outside the shop, a sign reads:
:''"Massage for Body and Spirit"''
:''"Pokémon Reflexology Services"''

===TV Mauville===
{{main|TV Mauville}}
The TV station that runs the news on the {{DL|PokéNav Plus|BuzzNav}}. The player can sit at the news desk, but this doesn't put them on the BuzzNav news.

===Mauville Hills===
In {{g|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}, the second floor of Mauville City is a high-class apartment complex known as Mauville Hills, and is the only residential area in the city. The player is not authorized to enter until they have agreed to help Wattson investigate [[New Mauville]]. To gain access, the player must speak to Wattson, who can be found in the central area of the city looking at the brightly shining Square Tower after the player has {{pkmn2|caught}} or [[Fainting|defeated]] {{p|Groudon}}{{sup/6|OR}}/{{p|Kyogre}}{{sup/6|AS}}.

All accessible balconies can be {{m|Fly|flown}} or [[Soaring in the sky|soared]] from.

====Apartment 1====
Apt. 1: Rotation Frump's Home is located against the northern wall on the west side of the northern hallway. It is home to a unique female {{tc|Expert}} known as Rotation Girl Circie—also known as the Rotation Frump, formally known as the Rotation Fiend—who will reluctantly battle the player in a [[Rotation Battle]] once per day. This is the only instance of Rotation Battles found in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire outside of [[Secret Base]]s and the [[Battle Maison]].

{{trainerheader|building}}
{{Trainerentry|VSExpert F.png{{!}}150px|Rotation Girl|Circie|3,360|3|512|Simisage|♂|42|None|514|Simisear|♂|42|None|516|Simipour|♂|42|None|36=メグル|37=Meguru}}
{{Trainerfooter|building|3}}

There is no response from the intercom.

====Apartment 2====
Apt. 2: Ribbon Belle's Home is located against the northern wall on the east side of the northern hallway. It is home to the Ribbon Belle, who will gift the player's entire party with daily {{DL|List of Ribbons in the games|Memorial Ribbons}}.

It is also home to a woman who will comment on the [[Pokémon-Amie|affection]] of the Pokémon at the front of the player's party. If she is shown a Pokémon with maximum affection, she will give it a {{DL|List of Ribbons in the games|Best Friends Ribbon}}.

{| class="roundy" cellpadding=3 style="background: #{{cute color}}; border: 3px solid #{{cute color dark}}; margin:auto"
! style="background:#{{cute color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Affection
! style="background:#{{cute color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Quote
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 0-1 || ''It's affectionate, perhaps? I don't know.''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 2 || ''It's a bit affectionate to you! I can tell!''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 3 || ''It's affectionate to you! You and your Pokémon must be enjoying Pokémon-Amie and contests together!''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 4 || ''It's very affectionate to you! Affectionate Pokémon are very cute when they battle along you, aren't they?''
|-
| rowspan=2 style="background:#FFF; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 5
| style="background:#FFF" | For a Pokémon not wearing the Ribbon: ''It's super affectionate to you! You must love each other very much! Thank you for showing your strong bond with your Pokémon! The journey will be a lot more fun if you're with affectionate Pokémon!'' 
|-
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybr|5px}}" | For a Pokémon wearing the Ribbon: ''It's super affectionate to you! You must love each other very much! I'm envious!''
|}

There is no response from the intercom.

====Apartment 3====
Apt. 3: Old Guys' Home is located against the eastern wall on the north side of the eastern hallway. It is home to the [[old guys]] found in the Mauville City [[Pokémon Center]]. Each time one of the old guys gives the player both of their [[O-Power]]s, they return here (old guys the player has not yet encountered in the Pokémon Center are not present).

If the player speaks to the Storyteller after having spoken to the powerless man in Apt. 11, the Storyteller will ask the player to go fetch the man. When the powerless man is spoken to again, the player will bring him to Apt. 3. Here, the old guys transfer their power to the powerless man one by one, each one disappearing as he does. Once all five old guys have disappeared, the powerless man becomes [[Mr. Bonding]], who gives the player Hatching Power and leaves.

There is no response from the intercom.

====Apartment 7====
Apt. 7: A Dreaming Man's Home is located against the western wall on the south side of the western hallway. It is home to a {{tc|Scientist}} who dreams of giving out {{HM|06|Rock Smash}} to Trainers. He can be found practicing his explanation of the function of Rock Smash HM. On the wall is a picture of a rock being smashed. There is also a {{tc|Beauty}} with a {{p|Slakoth}} in the overworld.

In {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}, the Rock Smash Dude lives in Mauville City and gives out Rock Smash to the player; however, in {{g|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}, it is instead received from [[Wally]]'s uncle after defeating Wally in front of the [[Mauville Gym]].

There is no response from the intercom.

====Apartment 11====
Apt. 11: A Powerless Man's Home is located against the western wall on the north side of the eastern hallway. It is home to a businessman who is depressed about his lack of power.

This apartment also includes access to the balcony. {{TM|89|U-turn}} can be found on this balcony.

There is no response from the intercom.

====Apartment 13====
Apt. 13: Wattson's Home is located against the northern wall on the east side of the southern hallway. Here, Wattson will request that the player visit [[New Mauville]] and press a button on the computer. After doing so, he will reward the player with {{TM|24|Thunderbolt}}; Wattson will then return to his Gym rather than staying in his apartment. Other than Wattson (who is not always there), inside Wattson's apartment is his wife, as well as a {{p|Plusle}} and {{p|Minun}} walking around in the overworld.

Wattson's apartment also includes access to the balcony. A {{p|Taillow}} in the overworld is standing on this balcony.

Using the intercom, a voice will invite the player inside.

====Apartment 14====
Apt. 14: An Ice-Cream Lover's House is located against the northern wall on the west side of the southern hallway. It is home to a {{tc|Fairy Tale Girl}} who will sell the player a {{DL|Status condition healing item|Casteliacone}} for {{pdollar}}200 if the player has {{p|Regice}} in their [[party]].

This apartment also includes access to the balcony. A {{tc|Rich Boy}} is standing on this balcony, who comments about the exclusive view tenants have access to.

There is no response from the intercom.

====Inaccessible inhabited apartments====
For all of these apartments, the door is locked, preventing the player from entering; however, a person inside will talk to the player over the intercom.

Apt. 5: A Composer's Home is located against the southern wall on the east side of the southern hallway. Using the intercom, the composer assumes the player to be a fan and considers their presence to be an invasion of his privacy.

Apt. 6: A Devoted Woman's Home is located against the southern wall on the west side of the southern hallway. It is home to woman who is a huge fan of the composer in apartment 5. Using the intercom, the woman assumes the player to be a fan of the composer, criticizing the player for attempting to enter the composer's home and proclaiming that she is a more devoted fan.

Apt. 9: A Cold Woman's Home is located against the southern wall on the west side of the northern hallway. Using the intercom, the woman will simply tell the player she doesn't need anything.

Apt. 10: Home of the Man Who Keeps an Eye on the Corridor is located against the southern wall on the east side of the northern hallway. Using the intercom, the man will ask the player to leave as they are obstructing his view of the corridor through his video intercom.

Apt. 12: A Frightened Man's Home is located against the western wall on the south side of the eastern hallway. It is home to a {{tc|Collector}} who is late on his rent payment. The first time the player visits the area, he is in the hallway being harassed by a loan shark for money, with the two of them entering the locked apartment after a brief conversation. If the player returns to this hallway, the loan shark will be standing outside and give the player a {{DL|Mega Stone|Lopunnite}} who took as payment from this tenant. Using the intercom, the man will claim to not be home.

====Vacant apartments====
Apartments 4, 8, 15, and 16 are vacant. There is no response from the intercom. They serve no functional purpose.

Unlike the other three, Apartment 16 states it has a deal on the lease, and using the intercom gives a response of "..." rather than a message telling the player that there is no response.

Apartment 4 is located against the eastern wall on the south side of the eastern hallway, Apartment 8 against the western wall on the north side of the western hallway, Apartment 15 against the eastern wall on the south side of the western hallway, and Apartment 16 against the eastern wall on the north side of the western hallway.

==Demographics==
===Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald===
In {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}} and {{game|Emerald}}, the population of Mauville City is 39. This number means it is a medium-sized [[Hoenn]] city.

===Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire===
In {{pkmn|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}, including the Trainers in the Food Court, Mauville City has a total population of 148, making it the largest city in Hoenn and the third-largest city in the [[Pokémon world]], following {{ci|Nimbasa}} and preceding {{ci|Castelia}}, both of [[Unova]].

==Poké Mart==
{{shop|Generation III}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Poké Ball|200}}|{{shopitem|Great Ball|600}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Super Potion|700}}|{{shopitem|Antidote|100}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Parlyz Heal|200}}|{{shopitem|Awakening|200}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|X Speed|350}}|{{shopitem|X Attack|500}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|X Defend|550}}|{{shopitem|Guard Spec.|700}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Dire Hit|650}}|{{shopitem|X Accuracy|950}}}}
{{shopfooter}}
{{shop|Lower cashier (Generation VI)}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Poké Ball|200|PD}}|{{shopitem|Great Ball|600|PD}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Ultra Ball|1,200|PD|note=3 {{color2|000|Badge|Badges}}}}|{{shopitem|Potion|300}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Super Potion|700|PD}}|{{shopitem|Hyper Potion|1,200|PD}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Max Potion|2,500|PD|note=4 {{color2|000|Badge|Badges}}}}|{{shopitem|Full Restore|3,000|PD|note=5 {{color2|000|Badge|Badges}}}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Revive|1,500|PD}}|{{shopitem|Antidote|100|PD}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Paralyze Heal|200|PD}}|{{shopitem|Awakening|250|PD}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Burn Heal|250|PD}}|{{shopitem|Ice Heal|250|PD}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Full Heal|600|PD|note=3 {{color2|000|Badge|Badges}}}}|{{shopitem|Escape Rope|550|PD}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Repel|350|PD}}|{{shopitem|Super Repel|500|PD}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Max Repel|700|PD|note=3 {{color2|000|Badge|Badges}}}}}}
{{shopfooter|multiple=yes}}
{{shop|Upper cashier (Generation VI)}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|TM09|10,000|PD||TM Poison VI|Venoshock}}|{{shopitem|TM40|10,000|PD||TM Flying VI|Aerial Ace}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|TM42|10,000|PD||TM Normal VI|Facade}}|{{shopitem|TM47|10,000|PD||TM Fighting VI|Low Sweep}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|TM57|10,000|PD||TM Electric VI|Charge Beam}}|{{shopitem|TM78|10,000|PD||TM Ground VI|Bulldoze}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|TM82|10,000|PD||TM Dragon VI|Dragon Tail}}|{{shopitem|TM98|10,000|PD||TM Fighting VI|Power-Up Punch}}}}
{{shopfooter}}

==Items==
===Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald===
{{itlisth|road}}
{{Itemlist|Coin Case|From the woman in the house next to the Poké Mart in exchange for {{DL|Mail|Harbor Mail}}|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes}}
{{Itemlist|X Speed|Behind the fence across from the Poké Mart|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes|display={{DL|Battle item|X Speed}}}}
{{Itemlist|HM Fighting|From the Rock Smash Dude in the southeastern house|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes|display={{HM|06|Rock Smash}}}}
{{Itemlist|Acro Bike|From [[Rydel]]; only one of the Mach Bike and Acro Bike can be chosen, but they may be switched at any time|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes|display={{DL|Bicycle|Acro Bike}}}}
{{Itemlist|Mach Bike|From [[Rydel]]; only one of the Mach Bike and Acro Bike can be chosen, but they may be switched at any time|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes|display={{DL|Bicycle|Mach Bike}}}}
{{Itemlist|None|sprite=Doll Treecko III|From a girl inside the [[Mauville Game Corner]] (if Treecko is the player's starter Pokémon)|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes|display=[[Pokémon doll|Treecko Doll]]}}
{{Itemlist|None|sprite=Doll Torchic III|From a girl inside the [[Mauville Game Corner]] (if Torchic is the player's starter Pokémon)|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes|display=[[Pokémon doll|Torchic Doll]]}}
{{Itemlist|None|sprite=Doll Mudkip III|From a girl inside the [[Mauville Game Corner]] (if Mudkip is the player's starter Pokémon)|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes|display=[[Pokémon doll|Mudkip Doll]]}}
{{Itemlist|Basement Key III|From [[Wattson]] after earning the {{badge|Balance}} and agreeing to help shut down [[New Mauville]]'s generator|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes|display={{key|III|Basement Key}}}}
{{Itemlist|TM Electric|A gift from [[Wattson]] for shutting off [[New Mauville]]'s generator|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes|display={{TM|24|Thunderbolt}}}}
{{itlistfoot|road}}

===Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire===
====1F====
{{itlisth|building}}
{{Itemlist|X Speed|On the south side, behind the city map|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|Battle item|X Speed}}}}
{{Itemlist|TM Normal VI|On the west side, from the {{tc|Beauty}} behind the counter of the Crooner's Café|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{TM|48|Round}}}}
{{Itemlist|Treecko Doll|sprite=Doll Treecko VI|size=40|On the west side, from the owner of the shut-down [[Mauville Game Corner]]|OR=yes|AS=yes|display=[[Pokémon doll|Treecko Doll]]}}
{{Itemlist|Torchic Doll|sprite=Doll Torchic VI|size=40|On the west side, from the owner of the shut-down [[Mauville Game Corner]]|OR=yes|AS=yes|display=[[Pokémon doll|Torchic Doll]]}}
{{Itemlist|Mudkip Doll|sprite=Doll Mudkip VI|size=40|On the west side, from the owner of the shut-down [[Mauville Game Corner]]|OR=yes|AS=yes|display=[[Pokémon doll|Mudkip Doll]]}}
{{Itemlist|Reveal Glass|On the west side, from the mirror store owner if the player has {{p|Thundurus}}, {{p|Tornadus}}, or {{p|Landorus}} in their party|OR=yes|AS=yes}}
{{Itemlist|HM Fighting VI|On the north side, from [[Wally]]'s uncle after defeating Wally|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{HM|06|Rock Smash}}}}
{{Itemlist|Vs. Recorder|On the east side, from a man upon first entering the [[Battle Institute]]|OR=yes|AS=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Acro Bike VI|On the east side, from [[Rydel]]...
* Initially, only one of the Mach Bike and Acro Bike can be chosen, but they may be switched at any time
* Later, Rydel will gift the player both bikes if they have spoken to a {{tc|Hex Maniac}} in {{rt|111|Hoenn}}'s desert, a {{tc|Bird Keeper}} on {{rt|119|Hoenn}}, and a {{tc|Triathlete}} at the [[Battle Resort]]|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|Bicycle|Acro Bike}}}}
{{Itemlist|Mach Bike VI|On the east side, from [[Rydel]]...
* Initially, only one of the Mach Bike and Acro Bike can be chosen, but they may be switched at any time
* Later, Rydel will gift the player both bikes if they have spoken to a {{tc|Hex Maniac}} in {{rt|111|Hoenn}}'s desert, a {{tc|Bird Keeper}} on {{rt|119|Hoenn}}, and a {{tc|Triathlete}} at the [[Battle Resort]]|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|Bicycle|Mach Bike}}}}
{{Itemlist|TM Flying VI|In the central plaza, from the {{tc|Delinquent}} in the [[Poké Mart]]|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{TM|58|Sky Drop}}}}
{{Itemlist|X Defense|In the central plaza, behind the Square Tower ''(hidden)''|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|Battle item|X Defense}}}}
{{Itemlist|None|sprite=Globe Sprite DPPt|In the central plaza, from the {{tc|Backpacker}} near the Square Tower|OR=yes|AS=yes|display=[[Decoration|Globe]]}}
{{itlistfoot|building}}

====2F====
{{itlisth|building}}
{{Itemlist|Elixir|Apt. 1 (north hall), a gift from Circie's granddaughter for defeating Circie (''daily'')|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|Ether|Elixir}}}}
{{Itemlist|none|sprite=Smile Ribbon|Apt. 2 (north hall), from the Ribbon Belle{{dotw|Su}}|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|Ribbon|Smile Ribbon}} {{tt|×6|Given to all the player's Pokémon at once}}}}
{{Itemlist|none|sprite=Alert Ribbon|Apt. 2 (north hall), from the Ribbon Belle{{dotw|Mo}}|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|List of Ribbons in the games|Alert Ribbon}} {{tt|×6|Given to all the player's Pokémon at once}}}}
{{Itemlist|none|sprite=Shock Ribbon|Apt. 2 (north hall), from the Ribbon Belle{{dotw|Tu}}|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|List of Ribbons in the games|Shock Ribbon}} {{tt|×6|Given to all the player's Pokémon at once}}}}
{{Itemlist|none|sprite=Downcast Ribbon|Apt. 2 (north hall), from the Ribbon Belle{{dotw|We}}|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|List of Ribbons in the games|Downcast Ribbon}} {{tt|×6|Given to all the player's Pokémon at once}}}}
{{Itemlist|none|sprite=Careless Ribbon|Apt. 2 (north hall), from the Ribbon Belle{{dotw|Th}}|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|List of Ribbons in the games|Careless Ribbon}} {{tt|×6|Given to all the player's Pokémon at once}}}}
{{Itemlist|none|sprite=Relax Ribbon|Apt. 2 (north hall), from the Ribbon Belle{{dotw|Fr}}|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|List of Ribbons in the games|Relax Ribbon}} {{tt|×6|Given to all the player's Pokémon at once}}}}
{{Itemlist|none|sprite=Snooze Ribbon|Apt. 2 (north hall), from the Ribbon Belle{{dotw|Sa}}|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|List of Ribbons in the games|Snooze Ribbon}} {{tt|×6|Given to all the player's Pokémon at once}}}}
{{Itemlist|none|sprite=Best Friends Ribbon|Apt. 2 (north hall), from a woman if the player's lead Pokémon has maximum [[Pokémon-Amie|affection]]|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|List of Ribbons in the games|Best Friends Ribbon}}}}
{{Itemlist|TM Bug VI|Apt. 11 (east hall), on the balcony|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{TM|89|U-turn}}}}
{{Itemlist|Lopunnite|East hallway, from a loan shark in a suit outside Apt. 12 after he confronts the man who lives there|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|Mega Stone|Lopunnite}}}}
{{Itemlist|TM Electric VI|Apt. 13 (south hall), a gift from Wattson for activating a computer in [[New Mauville]]|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{TM|24|Thunderbolt}}}}
{{Itemlist|Casteliacone|Apt. 14 (south hall), from the {{tc|Fairy Tale Girl}} for {{pdollar}}200 if the player has {{p|Regice}} in their [[party]]|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|Status condition healing item|Casteliacone}}}}
{{Itemlist|Shock Drive|In the northeast stairwell, from the {{tc|Street Thug}} after showing him a {{p|Genesect}}|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|Drive|Shock Drive}}}}
{{Itemlist|Burn Drive|In the northeast stairwell, from the {{tc|Street Thug}} after showing him a Genesect|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|Drive|Burn Drive}}}}
{{Itemlist|Douse Drive|In the northeast stairwell, from the {{tc|Street Thug}} after showing him a Genesect|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|Drive|Douse Drive}}}}
{{Itemlist|Chill Drive|In the northeast stairwell, from the {{tc|Street Thug}} after showing him a Genesect|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|Drive|Chill Drive}}}}
{{itlistfoot|building}}

====3F====
{{itlisth|building}}
{{Itemlist|Metronome|On the north side, purchased for {{pdollar}}1,000 from a man in a tuxedo|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|In-battle effect item|Metronome}}}}
{{Itemlist|Poké Toy|On the north side, from a {{tc|Delinquent}}|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|Escape item|Poké Toy}}}}
{{Itemlist|Max Repel|On the east side, underneath the tower ''(hidden)''|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|Repel|Max Repel}}}}
{{Itemlist|Nugget|On the south side, from a man who appears when walking the paved path west of the tower|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}}}
{{Itemlist|Luxury Ball|On the west side, underneath the tower ''(hidden)''|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{ball|Luxury}}}}
{{itlistfoot|building}}

==Trainers==
===Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald===
{{Party/Single
|color={{tcg grass color light}}
|headcolor=CED8F6
|bordercolor={{tcg grass color}}
|sprite=Spr RS Wally.png
|prize={{PDollar}}960
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===Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire===
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==In the anime==
[[File:Mauville City anime.png|thumb|200px|Mauville City in the anime]]
Mauville City first appeared in the anime in the episode ''[[AG040|Watt's with Wattson]]''. {{Ash}} and {{ashfr}} arrived here and went straight to the [[Mauville Gym]] where Ash challenged Wattson for the {{badge|Dynamo}}. Mauville City also appeared in the episode ''[[AG059|Manectric Charge]]'' when Ash and his friends arrived here as a pit stop on their way back to [[Petalburg City]].

Mauville City is the hometown of {{ho|Tyson}}.
{{clear}}

==Appearance==
===Generation III===
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| colspan="2" | [[File:Mauville City RS.png|250px]]
| [[File:Mauville City E.png|250px]]
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===Generation VI===
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==Trivia==
* "Mauville" is the French name of [[Violet City]].
** The city's French name "Lavandia" is the same as the German name of [[Lavender Town]].
** Additionally, the city shares its name with [[Lavender Town]] in Korean.
* A small glitch appears in {{g|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}. If the player obtains the Mach Bike or Acro Bike before battling [[Wally]], leaves the city, gets on the bicycle, then re-enters and battles him, the bicycle music will start playing after Wally's theme ends instead of the town's usual background music.
* In the PokéMileage Center shop, there is a TV displaying various pictures. One of them features the {{wp|Eiffel Tower}}.

==Name origin==
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| キンセツシティ ''Kinsetsu City''
| Possibly from 菫 ''kin'' ({{wp|Viola_(plant)|violet}}), 近接 ''kinsetsu'' (nearby; neighboring), and 晢 ''setsu'' (shine)
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| English
| Mauville City
| From ''mauve'' (a purple-pink color) and ''ville''
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| French
| Lavandia
| From ''lavande'', lavender
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| German
| Malvenfroh City
| From ''Malvenfarbe'' (mauve) and ''froh'' (glad)
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Italian
| Ciclamipoli
| From ''ciclamino'', {{wp|cyclamen}}
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Spanish
| Ciudad Malvalona
| From ''malva'', mauve
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Korean
| 보라시티 ''Bora City''
| From 보라 ''bora'' violet
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and mainland China}})
| 紫堇市 ''Zǐjǐn Shì''
| From 紫 ''zǐ'' (purple or violet) and 堇 ''jǐn'' (''{{wp|Viola (plant)|Viola}}'')
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Vietnamese
| Thành phố Kinsetsu
| Transliteration of Japanese name
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Talk:Zygarde (Pokémon)

2016-07-01T21:18:06Z

AndyPKMN:

==Legendary?==
Isn't this a Legendary Pokémon? If so, why isn't it listed as such? --[[User:WyndFox|Wynd]] [[User talk:WyndFox|Fox]] 05:57, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
:Two possible reasons: either someone simply overlooked it or the staff is waiting for official confirmation of its legendary status before adding it. (Though it seems obvious that it's the Rayquaza/Giratina/Kyurem of this generation, there's always still the infinitesimal chance that Nintendo could be throwing us for a loop somehow.) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:03, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
::It's just been overlooked. It's a Legendary. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 06:08, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

== Dex Trivia? ==

Is it notable that it's last both numerically in the National Dex and alphabetically? --[[User:WyndFox|Wynd]] [[User talk:WyndFox|Fox]] 19:39, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
:I don't have an issue with it. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 19:54, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Unless they make a "Generation VII" or Expansion Pack (like in The Sims) where the grass starter or one of the early Pokémon has a name like "Zyzkrieg". Then it would not be anymore. (but i think the next game should be the Gen. III Remake in 2014, and then "Pokemon Z" in 2015, and the generation VII if it can exist properly, would be in 2016. Propably introduce hybrid Pokémon or Poké-humans or a subplot with aliens or time travel or somesuch.) --[[User:Kaiko Mikkusu|Kaiko Mikkusu]] ([[User talk:Kaiko Mikkusu|talk]]) 19:30, 14 December 2013 (UTC) Kaiko Mikkusu.

Maybe you should keep the crazy fan ideas in the forums. I find those "Poké-humans" very unlikely to made by Nintendo. But we'll never know. Until that happens, we should keep that idea off the encyclopedia. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 22:29, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

== Image origin ==

Where did this image come from, why does it not look like the usual Ken Sugimori art style, why doesn't it look like the other, front forward facing Zygarde pic I keep seeing next to Xerneas and Yveltal? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 08:46, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
:It's not the official artwork, only a placeholder that is used for now (at least it seems so to me). It's the Global Link artwork as stated on the file's page. [[User: Ariano|Արիանո]] 08:53, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
::And the image you're talking is just fanart. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 09:23, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

== Physical appearance ==

Given its underground habits, its partial insect-like appearance and the fact it sports tail-end cerci and six tiny limbs close to its head; I'd say Zygarde's design might've been inspired by a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beetle#Larva beetle larvae/grub], a [http://bugguide.net/images/raw/NKRKEK0KPKZK6KXKAKMKZSWQHS6QB0UQRSMKPK6QT0ZKB09QVKIKBKXKDKVQRS8KNK0KEKHKWK6Q2K.jpg Ground Beetle larva] to be precise, given its shape. Would it be alright to add that to the origin section? --[[User:Jomarori|Jomarori]] ([[User talk:Jomarori|talk]]) 15:00, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
: I don't see it as a larva, its more or less a serpent. Although with the mention of Zygote likely having some basis for its name, I am kind of thinking sperm cell. Not saying it looks like a sperm cell, at least not a human sperm cell. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 15:18, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
:: Perhaps it also takes inspiration from the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuchinoko tsuchinoko], much like Dunsparce? It's notable for being a rather wide serpent, as well as having a notable straightforward "wiggle" rather than slithering from side to side. Also, the tsuchinoko's ability to swallow its own tail merges well with the possible basis on Jörmungandr, which could grasp its own tail even wrapped around the earth. --[[User:Eskay64|Eskay64]] ([[User talk:Eskay64|talk]]) 04:40, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
::: Zygarde's appearance was absolutely inspired by fibuli, these early medieval pins that were common throughout Scandinavia as a means of pinning tunics together. Here are a few examples, [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Frankish_-_Digitated_Fibula_-_Walters_542443.jpg image 1] [http://imgur.com/ylEuTp5 image 2]. As you can see the idea of a long snakelike body is here along with a flaring head, complete with a bunch of pieces sticking out. These would have been totally normal things for upper class medieval Scandinavians to wear and thus fits Gen 6's Nordic legendary theme. I'm haven't seen this connection made anywhere else, but once I saw it in class I recognized it right a way. Perhaps following that logic we might find some other sort of medieval jewelry references in the other legendaries? {{unsigned|Dockers}}

So I just read that "[Zygarde's] hexagons glow in certain patterns like a computer processing information" and I have to ask: have any of you guys actually seen a computer? There ''has'' to be a better way of describing that that doesn't insult people who know how computers work.

(also I edited Dockers' comment because that picture was huge) {{unsigned|Grent|03:10, 26 April 2014 (UTC)}}

== Zygarde Etymology ==

Just looking at the naming trivia, I can't imagine that Garde is actually tied to the origins of its name. It's very serpent-like and clearly based on Norse mythology, so perhaps Zygote and Midgard - specifically the Midgard Serpent.

== Position in Trio ==

Zygarde is in a Legendary trio with Xerneas an Yveltal, so it's "element" should fit with Creation and Destruction. Considering it's Pokédex entry, I think it's safe to say Xerneas = Creation, Yveltal = Destruction, and Zygarde = PRESERVATION. {{unsigned|Conansboy}}
:Which means that the trio is possibly based upon Hindu mythology.--[[User:Teamg9|Teamg9]] ([[User talk:Teamg9|talk]]) 12:25, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

== Catch rate ==

I doubt that Zygarde's catch rate is really 0. Is this a filler till that info is found, or an error?
[[User:Reywas360|Reywas360]] ([[User talk:Reywas360|talk]]) 13:17, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
:It's a filler.--[[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 13:43, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

== Yggdrasil Trio ==

I'm finally starting to thing this, alongside Xerneas and Yveltal were based on Norse Mythology beasts in the Tree of Yggdrasil. They all represent Life, Death and Order as a whole. So should they be called the Yggdrasil Trio?--[[User:Duo2nd|Duo2nd]] ([[User talk:Duo2nd|talk]]) 02:41, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
:Its not really verified they are a trio. At least not yet anyways. As for the Norse basis, its possible they are not based on norse mythology at all, but Hindu mythology or one or more mythologies. As of now, the most popular name for them seems to be Aura Trio if they are a trio. There is a thread about their name on the forum if you're interested. The Thread kind of died but if you have anything to say, there would be the place to say it. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 03:56, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
::They obviously are a trio. It could not be any more obvious if ot tried. And we have no clue what they are supposed to be based of other than the axes, so it could be either. Or both. As for the name, I guess we'll see how it goes.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 23:45, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

== Just wanted to throw it out there ==

Bulbasaur + Zygarde = Bulbagarde

Trivia???{{tt|*|I guess probably not, but I just wanted to throw that out there :D}}

-[[User:KyuremTrainer|KyuremTrainer]] ([[User talk:KyuremTrainer|talk]]) 15:05, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
:I'm going to have to say no on that. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 19:16, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

== Typing oddity ==

Isn't it rather peculiar how Zygarde, the "Order Pokémon", has a defensive type disadvantage against Fairy and an offensive one against Flying, which are the types of Xerneas and Yveltal, respectively?

--[[User:TheAsianIsGamin|TheAsianIsGamin]] ([[User talk:TheAsianIsGamin|talk]]) 07:25, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
:I wouldn't consider that notable--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 23:33, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
::Well, if they are indeed a trio, isn't it somewhat notable that one of them (The "Order Pokémon", might I add) is weak to the others? --[[User:TheAsianIsGamin|TheAsianIsGamin]] ([[User talk:TheAsianIsGamin|talk]]) 04:36, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
:::Defensive and offensive disadvantages are completely different things. I don't think it's as clearly intentional (and thus notable) as, for example, all of the legendary golems' weakness to Fighting. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:24, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
::::I think that it most likely was intentional. Even though the fact that it is weak to Xerneas is probably not as notable, Xerneas and Yveltal are each immune to one of its types, and I think that that should be noted. (The fact that it is weak to Xerneas isn't as notable because it isn't also weak to Yveltal.) This is just my opinion, though! ^^ [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 07:36, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

== Move levels? ==

How do we know all the levels Zygarde knows its moves? You can't catch it below level 70... {{unsigned|DisgruntledGoat}}
:Most of the other legendaries had their move levels added because they're in [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Articuno_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=2034674&oldid=2034646 a Japanese guidebook], and since Zygarde's were added as part of that round of edits by the same users, I think it's reasonable to assume it was in the guidebook, too, even though nobody has specifically singled it out. Thus, I'll be reinstating the levels for now. If someone with the guidebook wants to confirm whether Zygarde is in it, please speak up. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 14:49, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Zygarde is in the guidebook. I own the second guide book and every Pokemon officially revealed as of Febuary 2014 is in it. --[[User:AbsolX|AbsolX]] ([[User talk:AbsolX|talk]]) 01:02, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

== Zygarde Reappearances ==

I believe that Zygarde reappears every time you defeat the Elite Four, just like Mewtwo does. I think this should be researched and noted in the Game Locations section. {{unsigned|NerfPlayeR135}}
:It does indeed respawn if fainted after you defeat the Elite Four. I've confirmed it myself just a moment ago. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] ([[User talk:Shiramu Kuromu|talk]]) 00:48, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

== Zygarde is in a trio with Xerneas and Yveltal ==

Admit it guys, Zygarde is THE most blatantly OBVIOUS Rayquaza Expy to have ever existed. Here's a few things to note here:

*Zygarde has a Green color scheme, while Xerneas and Yveltal have a Blue and Red coloration to match the RGB Color Palette.
*Xerneas and Yveltal are both designed based on the letters X and Y, and the first letters in their names are even those same letters. Zygarde not only is shaped in the manner of a Z due to being a serpent, but also has it's name begin with Z.
*Zygarde's signature ability, Aura Break, ONLY effects Fairy Aura and Dark Aura, which are ONLY known to be available to Xerneas and Yveltal. This isn't too different from Rayquaza in how it cancels out the abilities of the other two members of the trio.
*Xerneas is the Life Pokemon, Yveltal is the Destruction Pokemon, and Zygarde is the Order Pokemon.
*It's PokeDex Entries don't make reference to the other two, but bare in mind, neither did Rayquaza, Giratina, or Kyurem had any references to the others until their versions were released.

With that in mind, I can't see how ANYBODY can believe Zygarde is not related to either of them, as it's so obvious it's painful to say the least. The fact that Zygarde is the ONLY Non-Event Legendary from Kalos other than Xerneas and Yveltal doesn't help matters, and neither Diancie nor the still unconfirmed Volcanion and Hoopa look like they'd be anywhere near related to Xerneas or Yveltal as much as Zygarde does. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] ([[User talk:Shiramu Kuromu|talk]]) 14:04, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
:Zygarde is not with Xerneas and Yveltal, also, we don't talk about hidden Pokémon (except Diancie is already confirmed) so we have to wait in the future until it's confirmed to be in a trio. --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 10:19, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
::For all we know, Diancie could be in the "trio" if there is one, and not Zygarde. Zygarde might even be in the trio with other hidden Pokémon. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 03:04, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
:::For God's sake, Zygarde isn't in anyway related to Diancie, Hoopa, and Volcanion.[[User:Phiraptor28|Phiraptor28]] ([[User talk:Phiraptor28|talk]]) 10:55, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
::::@Cinday - Sometimes we don't need to wait for evidence. Things kind of things work like postulates - need no proving. What we need in these situations are simply common sense! Just an opinion. [[User:Phiraptor28|Phiraptor28]] ([[User talk:Phiraptor28|talk]]) 10:25, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
:::::Now that the various formes of Zygarde have been revealed, and how it was stated to be more powerful than Xerneas and Yveltal, the other two members of it's own trio whom which it's supposed to keep in balance, it's safe to say that I was right this whole time, yes? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] ([[User talk:Shiramu Kuromu|talk]]) 18:56, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
::::::Yes, you were right the whole time, and everyone else knew it too. It's blatantly obvious when its ability literally only affected Yveltal and Xerneas. Your arguments here can be equated to an English student trying to convince their high school teacher that sentences can start with and or but. Everyone knows it, and you're acting like you're the only who's realized. If anything, you're the one that's behind on how things work. The point is that it hasn't been officially recognized, and isn't critical information regarding Zygarde as a Pokemon, so it is unnecessary and possibly detrimental to this encyclopedia that we add irrelevant information such as this. Or at least it was. We can probably add it soon, but not before the connection is solid and integral to Zygarde as an idea/character/whatever you consider an individual Pokemon to be. There's a time and place for everything, but not now. [[User:ArtistKyurem|ArtistKyurem]] ([[User talk:ArtistKyurem|talk]]) 20:49, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
:::::::^Just wanted to point out he never said, as you said he did, that he "was the only one to realize it". He kept saying, like you, that it is obvious to everyone that they're a trio. {{unsigned|Ratcicle Fan}}
::::::::I think he's talking about when he said ''it's safe to say that I was right this whole time, yes?'', which is really arrogant.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:12, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

== Source on EV yield ==

Do Zygarde had an EV yield confirmed, or is it unsourced? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 05:19, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
:EV yields are listed in the official guidebook. Though even if they weren't, they're something we can easily test and data that we can prove through testing is okay, too. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 05:22, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
::So what is the name of the official guidebook? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 05:25, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
:::''Pokémon X & Pokémon Y: The Official Kalos Region Pokédex & Postgame Adventure Guide: The Official Pokémon Strategy Guide.'' [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 05:29, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
::::So what about catch rates, base friendship and some other information? So since the EV yields are confirmed for Kalos Pokémon according to the official guidebook, could you revert my edits please? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 05:31, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
The book just has the EV yields. The catch rate and base friendship are not included, unconfirmed, and nearly impossible to test. We can't include those on this site yet. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 05:35, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
:Testing catch rate is very "possible", just very involved. Testing base friendship is child's play by comparison. ''That'', you just have to be a little smart about (...possibly a little more than a little). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:45, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

== Quite obvious physical appearance once you're aware. ==

Zygarde's appearance is obviously based on a serpent in the shape of a Z as well as the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C4%81ga Naga].
Naga are many-headed serpents which appear in Hindu and Buddhist mythology and look like anything from cobras to dragons.
Once you know the Naga, the similarity is undeniable.
[http://travelphotos.alittleadrift.com/Asia/Cambodia/Siem-Reap/i-HQDpm5D/0/O/Naga%20serpent%20angkor%20wat%20cambodia-2.jpg Naga 1] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NagaPhnomPenh.jpg Naga 2] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Phra_Maha_Chedi_Chai_Mongkol_Naga_emerging_from_mouth_of_Makara.jpg Naga 3]

--[[User:Knockturnal|Knockturnal]] ([[User talk:Knockturnal|talk]]) 16:49, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

== New Form Design Origins ==

I know there is already a ton of discussions about Zygarde's design in this talk section, (this topic can be merged with an already existing one if that's easier) but am I right in assuming that the 3 non-cellular forms are based on the children of Loki (with the giant Angrboða as the mother) in Norse mythology? The 10% form is like the wolf Fenrir, the 'standard' 50% form is based on the world serpent Jörmungandr and the perfect form is akin to the giant Hel.

I have no idea if the DNA cell motif is anything to do with mythology as it is to do with simply being an unknown game mechanic. I don't know anything that could possibly relate to it other then that Loki was a shape shifter (I think he transformed into 5 different forms excluding his true appearance, though this is a stretch)? '''~''' [[User:Evacino|Evacino]] ([[User talk:Evacino|talk]]) 02:05, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
:: Zygarde 10% forme could've also been Garmr, Hel's dog, but Fenrir is more appropriate. And by the way, Zygarde is really apt with the concept of Hel, being the Pokémon of Balance, Hel is usually depicted with half of her body alive and half a corpse, similar to life and death. [[User:Phiraptor28|Phiraptor28]] ([[User talk:Phiraptor28|talk]]) 09:12, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

== Perfect is nw Complete ==

Its not Perfect Forme, but Zygard Complete Forme. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 15:24, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
:The news has only been out an hour or so, the staff will get around to it when they're online I'm sure. --[[User:S2daam|--samm :D]] 15:27, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

== Flatworm ==

With the introduction of Zygarde Core and Cell, it seems likely to me that both of them, in addition to 50% Forme, are based on planarian flatworms, specifically the well-known (well, well-known for flatworms) triangular-headed kind. [[User:Zakitano|Zakitano]] ([[User talk:Zakitano|talk]]) 21:42, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
:: Yes. The Core and Cell formes may have also drawn inspiration from zygotes, cell formations.[[User:Phiraptor28|Phiraptor28]] ([[User talk:Phiraptor28|talk]]) 09:10, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

== Zygarde 10% Stats ==

The Japanese Pokémon website has a bit more on Zygarde's 10% Forme. Height is 1.2 meters. Weight is 33.5 kilograms. And its type is Dragon/Ground.

Source: http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/anime-special/pokemon/ [[User:Goldchaos|Goldchaos]] ([[User talk:Goldchaos|talk]]) 06:03, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Zygarde 10% is in Pokémon Picross (via the leaked passwords). The game has the height/weight of the Pokémon in the game, but I'm not even close to were its stage is, so someone who has caught it check it out to put on the site please.[[User:TrainerX493|TrainerX493]] ([[User talk:TrainerX493|talk]]) 21:40, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
:Oh wait, it's already there. Nevermind. [[User:TrainerX493|TrainerX493]] ([[User talk:TrainerX493|talk]]) 03:16, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

== Core and Cell Zygarde ==

Are we sure that the core and cell versions are actual forms? Judging from the descriptions, they just sound like part of Zygarde's anatomy. Perhaps Ash and friends will be taken a trip inside the body of Zygarde? If so, I don't think we should count cell and core Zygarde as forms. [[User:Carcharodon|Carcharodon]] ([[User talk:Carcharodon|talk]]) 18:07, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
:They've appeared separately from Zygarde in the anime, so I doubt they won't appear separately in the games as well, even if they're not battle capable. Even if that were to occur, they should still be considered a form. {{unsigned|ArtistKyurem}}

== Potential Mortality Trio Learnset Comparison ==

In anticipation for Zygarde's addition to the Mortality Duo, I've added onto the existing learnset comparison from the [[Legendary Duo]] page.

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| style="background:#{{Grass color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Aromatherapy|{{Grass color dark}}}}''
| style="background:#{{Normal color light}}" | {{mcolor|Razor Wind|{{Normal color dark}}}}
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| style="background:#{{Grass color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Ingrain|{{Grass color dark}}}}''
| style="background:#{{Dark color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Taunt|{{Dark color dark}}}}''
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| style="background:#{{Ice color light}}" | {{mcolor|Aurora Beam|{{Ice color dark}}}}
| style="background:#{{Flying color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Air Slash|{{Flying color dark}}}}'''
| style="background:#{{Ground color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Dig|{{Ground color dark}}}}'''
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| style="text-align:right; background:#{{kalos color dark}}" | {{color|cf517e|18}}
| style="background:#{{Psychic color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Gravity|{{Psychic color dark}}}}''
| style="background:#{{Dark color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Snarl|{{Dark color dark}}}}'''
| style="background:#{{Normal color light}}" | {{mcolor|Bind|{{Normal color dark}}}}
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| style="text-align:right; background:#{{kalos color dark}}" | {{color|cf517e|26}}
| style="background:#{{Fairy color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Geomancy|{{Fairy color dark}}}}''
| style="background:#{{Flying color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Oblivion Wing|{{Flying color dark}}}}'''
| style="background:#{{Ground color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Land's Wrath|{{Ground color dark}}}}'''
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| style="text-align:right; background:#{{kalos color dark}}" | {{color|cf517e|35}}
| style="background:#{{Fairy color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Moonblast|{{Fairy color dark}}}}'''
| style="background:#{{Normal color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Disable|{{Normal color dark}}}}''
| style="background:#{{Rock color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Sandstorm|{{Rock color dark}}}}''
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| style="text-align:right; background:#{{kalos color dark}}" | {{color|cf517e|44}}
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| style="text-align:right; background:#{{kalos color dark}}" | {{color|cf517e|51}}
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| style="background:#{{dark color light}}" | {{mcolor|Crunch|{{dark color dark}}}}
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| style="text-align:right; background:#{{kalos color dark}}" | {{color|cf517e|55}}
| style="background:#{{Grass color light}}" | {{mcolor|Horn Leech|{{Grass color dark}}}}
| style="background:#{{ghost color light}}" | {{mcolor|Phantom Force|{{ghost color dark}}}}
| style="background:#{{Ground color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Earthquake|{{Ground color dark}}}}'''
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| style="text-align:right; background:#{{kalos color dark}}" | {{color|cf517e|59}}
| style="background:#{{Normal color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Psych Up|{{Normal color dark}}}}''
| style="background:#{{Psychic color light}}" | {{mcolor|Psychic|{{Psychic color dark}}}}
| style="background:#{{Normal color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Camouflage|{{Normal color dark}}}}''
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| style="text-align:right; background:#{{kalos color dark}}" | {{color|cf517e|63}}
| style="background:#{{Fairy color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Misty Terrain|{{Fairy color dark}}}}''
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| style="text-align:right; background:#{{kalos color dark}}" | {{color|cf517e|72}}
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| style="background:#{{Fighting color light}}" | {{mcolor|Focus Blast|{{Fighting color dark}}}}
| style="background:#{{Dragon color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Dragon Dance|{{Dragon color dark}}}}''
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| style="text-align:right; background:#{{kalos color dark}}" | {{color|cf517e|80}}
| style="background:#{{Fighting color light}}" | {{mcolor|Close Combat|{{Fighting color dark}}}}
| style="background:#{{dark color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Sucker Punch|{{dark color dark}}}}'''
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| style="text-align:right; background:#{{kalos color dark}}" | {{color|cf517e|88}}
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| style="text-align:right; background:#{{kalos color dark}}" | {{color|cf517e|93}}
| style="background:#{{dragon color light}}" | {{mcolor|Outrage|{{dragon color dark}}}}
| style="background:#{{flying color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Sky Attack|{{flying color dark}}}}'''
| style="background:#{{dragon color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Outrage|{{dragon color dark}}}}'''
|-
| colspan="4" style="background:#{{kalos color dark}}; color: #{{kalos color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}"| Moves in '''bold''' get {{color2|cf517e|Same-type attack bonus|STAB}}. Moves in ''italics'' do no damage.
|}{{-}}

This is only meant to be used once we receive official word of the "Mortality Trio" (or whatever it's officially called) existing. Once it is confirmed, this can be used on the trio's page.
--[[User:Pacack|Pacack]] ([[User talk:Pacack|talk]]) 19:04, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

== Dugesia? ==

I guess it's obvious, but I believe Zygarde's Cell Form is based on the Dugesia (a name I didn't know until today). Shouldn't that be added to the trivia?
Also, I think it could be added to the trivia that Zygarde's 10% Form resembles a dobberman. [[User:Ratcicle Fan|Ratcicle Fan]] ([[User talk:Ratcicle Fan|talk]]) 20:47, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

== Mistake with a picture caption ==

The "In the anime" section, the picture with the caption that says "Zygarde Cell in the anime" should be corrected to "Zygarde Core in the anime".

Also, someone should mention that Zygarde 10% made it's debut in XY094 and get a picture of it as well. [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] ([[User talk:Dialgafan1|talk]]) 06:40, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
:Also noticed this error earlier as well. I thought I was the only one who knew about this. The error was a bit diffcult to spot, I'd have to admit. [[User:KoiFish|KoiFish]] ([[User talk:KoiFish|talk]]) 06:02, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

== Zygarde 10% form origin ==

I would like to add that Zygarde 10% form is based on a Doberman Pinscher on a leash. However, the page is locked. Could someone please unlock the page and add that info in (if this is necessary/accurate info)?[[User:Leafeon6954|Leafeon6954]] ([[User talk:Leafeon6954|talk]]) 23:08, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

== Axis Trivia ==

I was wondering if this is a viable piece of trivia:
Xerxes is a land creature and the X coordinate is the horizontal one. Yveltal can fly and the Y axis is the vertical coordinate. Zygarde can burrow and the Z coordinate represents depth. --[[User:AbsolX|AbsolX]] ([[User talk:AbsolX|talk]]) 19:51, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
:The analogy you're trying to make is flawed a couple ways. Flying and burrowing are on the same axis, not different ones; one's up the axis, the other is down it. And land is more of a plane than a single axis/dimension, really. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:12, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

== Flag of Kalos? ==

In the origin section, there was reference to a flag of Kalos. I searched for it, and only a fanmade one seems to exist. As such, I changed the sentence to refer to the flag of France instead.

If I am mistaken, please show me evidence of the flag of Kalos and revert the edit. [[User:Pacack|ᗧ•••ᗣ Pacack]] 21:27, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

== Biology Section ==

I have made a sizeable contribution to the biology section of this page. It is lengthy, but details the appearance of all Zygarde's formes. If anyone sees an issue with this edit, grammatical or otherwise, please correct it. If you can condense the information without lessening the content of the article, please also do so.

Thanks! [[User:Pacack|ᗧ•••ᗣ Pacack]] 00:45, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

== Zygarde Complete Forme's head ==

Okay not 100% sure if this is is worth putting here but I figured better safe than sorry. Anyway the article says the part of Complete Formes's body that's on top of the round part is a protrusion but I think it's actually the head. The reason is because all of the puzzles in Pokémon Picross are headshots and the on for Zygarde Complete Forme doesn't show the round portion of it's body it shows the part on top. I think that really points towards it being the head. {{unsigned|Flain}}
:You're right, and I'd go as far to say that the round part is '''definitely''' its chest and that the "protrusion" is '''definitely''' its head and that someone would have to be psychotic to think of it any other way. The "protrusion" is clearly a head. The arms come off of the round thing, it is clearly a chest. The protrusion has glowing white eyes, while the chest has green eye-like markings. To argue this would be like arguing that Masquerein's wings are actually its eyes. Saying that, I'm not willing to be the one to change it because my edits tend to get reverted in seconds. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 00:20, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
::While writing the biology section, I was unsure whether to classify the crown or the rounded section as the head because of this image:

::http://anime-attack.com/cdn/assets/img/animes/image/pokemon-xy-z.jpg

::In this, the "chest" opens and reveals that its jagged center is akin to a mouth. Because of this, and because crowns traditionally rest upon heads, I opted for more ambiguous wording. However, because I seem to be outnumbered three to one (another person edited the page already), I will change the wording to note this ability while maintaining the position that the protrusion is the head. [[User:Pacack| '''Pa'''ᗧ•••ᗣ'''ck''' ]] 02:37, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

== Using Deity/Deities derived terms when speaking generically ==

What is wrong with using deity/deities or derived terms when speaking generically (no gender connotations that is)?

[[User:Jdogno4|Jdogno4]] ([[User talk:Jdogno4|talk]]) 07:06, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

:Because the the plural "gods" can also be gender-neutral.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]11:16, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
::"The gods" is a collective term which refers to both gods and goddesses. It is a term used often, and can be seen in action here [https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Norse_gods_and_goddesses#Major_gods], here [https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Olympians], and here [https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gods_and_goddesses].
::The majority of the text from the origin section of the article is paraphrased from the wikipedia articles. You will note that wikipedia uses the term "the gods" in the Fenrir article as well [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenrir]. [[User:Pacack| '''Pa'''ᗧ•••ᗣ'''ck''' ]] 15:26, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

"Because the plural "gods" can also be gender-neutral.": Deities is more technically correct in this instance.

"'The gods' is a collective term which refers to both gods and goddesses.": Once again deities is more technically correct in this instance.

Well Wikipedia is not being technically correct in all instances relating to what is a deity, what is a god and what is a goddess.

[[User:Jdogno4|Jdogno4]] ([[User talk:Jdogno4|talk]]) 23:40, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
:For all practical and/or common purposes, anywhere deity can be used, so can god, without changing ''anything''. (The only exception is something like Wikipedia's {{wp|God}} article, where simply using "god" can get confusing and "deity" can provide a ''useful'' distinction.)
:Your apparent belief that "god" always carries a gender connotation is, very simply: wrong. In my view, this is a pretty fundamental concept—which also makes it perversely difficult to "explain". So instead, I'm just going to let you figure out a way to accept it, if you can. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:49, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

::"Your apparent belief that "god" always carries a gender connotation is, very simply: wrong.": How so?
::[[User:Jdogno4|Jdogno4]] ([[User talk:Jdogno4|talk]]) 06:14, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
:::How not?
:::It comes down to this: you tried to change this line before: ''"In Norse mythology, Fenrir is a monstrous wolf which was foretold to bring the gods great trouble and harm."''
:::The question is: does "gods" have a gender connotation there?
:::And the (right) answer is simply: No.
:::If you want to try to explain why ''you're'' right or why ''I'm'' wrong, feel free. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:59, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
::::"''"In Norse mythology, Fenrir is a monstrous wolf which was foretold to bring the gods great trouble and harm."''": Where are you quoting this phrase from?
::::[[User:Jdogno4|Jdogno4]] ([[User talk:Jdogno4|talk]]) 07:17, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
:::::This page, where you [[Special:Diff/2377543|tried]] to change it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:53, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

::::::As I have stated before in terms of technical correctness Deity(singular)/Deities(plural) is more accurate.
::::::[[User:Jdogno4|Jdogno4]] ([[User talk:Jdogno4|talk]]) 08:52, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
:::::::You did mention something like that above, but frankly, you have completely failed to explain it in any way, whether what makes it more accurate or what about god is inaccurate. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:59, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
::::::::"You did mention something like that above, but frankly, you have completely failed to explain it in any way, whether what makes it more accurate or what about god is inaccurate.": I have. Deity=Gender Neutral. God=Masculine. Goddess=Feminine. Does that make sense?
::::::::[[User:Jdogno4|Jdogno4]] ([[User talk:Jdogno4|talk]]) 09:09, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
:::::::::While that is an explanation, it is also wrong. "God" is not always masculine. As I said above: that is, very simply: WRONG.
:::::::::In the line from above that you previously tried to change, ''"In Norse mythology, Fenrir is a monstrous wolf which was foretold to bring the gods great trouble and harm."'', "gods" is not masculine, it is gender-neutral, just like "deities" would be. "Deities" is not better, techically or otherwise. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 09:28, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
::::::::::"While that is an explanation, it is also wrong.": How so?
::::::::::"'God' is not always masculine.": Explain.
::::::::::"In the line from above that you previously tried to change, ''"In Norse mythology, Fenrir is a monstrous wolf which was foretold to bring the gods great trouble and harm."'', "gods" is not masculine, it is gender-neutral, just like "deities" would be.": I get that but I also think that it is not the most precise or accurate use of the term.
::::::::::"'Deities' is not better, technically or otherwise.": How so?
::::::::::[[User:Jdogno4|Jdogno4]] ([[User talk:Jdogno4|talk]]) 10:04, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
:::::::::::Jdogno4, I am ''not'' a mind reader. You cannot just ask things like "How so?" and "Explain.". I cannot guess what it is you don't understand.
:::::::::::Now... If you get that "gods" in that context was gender-neutral, then it's pretty clear you're just clinging hard to some contradictory notions. You plainly think deities is better because it's always gender-neutral, but that is NOT good logic. If "gods" is already gender-neutral, it ''does not'' need to be changed, it's already perfectly understandable. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:27, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

"Jdogno4, I am ''not'' a mind reader. You cannot just ask things like 'How so?' and 'Explain.'. I cannot guess what it is you don't understand.": I am asking you to explain your arguments if you are capable of doing so.

"Now... If you get that "gods" in that context was gender-neutral, then it's pretty clear you're just clinging hard to some contradictory notions.": I get that it was meant to be used in a gender-neutral context but I do not believe it was correctly used. What do you mean by contradictory notions? "You plainly think deities is better because it's always gender-neutral, but that is NOT good logic.": How is that not good logic? "If 'gods' is already gender-neutral, it ''does not'' need to be changed, it's already perfectly understandable.": It does for the fact that despite being used in a gender neutral fashion it is technically male gendered. Given the fact that it is used to mean both male deities (technically correct) and all deities at the same time (technically incorrect) it is not perfectly understandable.

[[User:Jdogno4|Jdogno4]] ([[User talk:Jdogno4|talk]]) 21:46, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
:Let me just check one thing, Jdogno4.
:Do you think it is ever correct to use "gods" to mean all deities (gender neutrally)? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:22, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

::"Do you think it is ever correct to use "gods" to mean all deities (gender neutrally)?": No I do not.
::[[User:Jdogno4|Jdogno4]] ([[User talk:Jdogno4|talk]]) 22:44, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
:::You are wrong.
:::There should be plenty of examples all around in the (English-speaking) world to show this. For starters, I might recommend checking various dictionaries (yes, more than one). You're welcome to look about for some of that and consider it by yourself. I leave you to that. It's not at all worth my time to try to change your mind on something so fundamental. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:53, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

"You are wrong.": How so?

"There should be plenty of examples all around in the (English-speaking) world to show this.": For instance?

[[User:Jdogno4|Jdogno4]] ([[User talk:Jdogno4|talk]]) 23:29, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Since you have made at least 20 edits since 23:29, 9 February 2016 (UTC), but none here I am assuming you have lost interest in backing up your argument.

[[User:Jdogno4|Jdogno4]] ([[User talk:Jdogno4|talk]]) 05:29, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
:Just because I won't engage with you further does not mean you are correct. If it did, that would mean many, many arguments would be doomed to continue FOREVER.
:You are wrong.
:Many people have told you this.
:If you cannot accept it or understand it, that is, frankly, your problem at this point.
:Let me emphasize: no matter what, (please) DO NOT try to change "god" to "deity" anywhere. Thank you. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:39, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

== Red Zygarde Core's Pokédex entries ==

I'm trying to post the Pokédex entries for [[Puni-chan]], but I can't figure out how to change it so it says '''Red Zygarde Core''' instead of '''Zygarde'''. Here's what I have so far.

{{Animedexheader|Kalos}}
{{Animedexbody|XY094|Zygarde|Ash's Pokédex|{{tt|No data.|translation from Japanese sub}}}}
{{Animedexbody|XY094|Zygarde|Serena's Pokédex|{{tt|No data.|translation from Japanese sub}}}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''XY''|Kalos}}

If someone can fix this, I'd really appreciate it. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 23:13, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

== Cell Form and Core form height. ==

While watching Pokemon XY and Z on kissanime, I noticed that zygarde's cell and core form's height isn't mentioned.
But examining Zygarde or Squishy, I realized that Zygarde's core form is as tall as a Dedenne. That would be 0'08. Now its height hasn't been officially reviewed, but if the anime shows that Zygarde and Dedenne are the same height, then Zygarde core is 0'08".
This is more of speculation, but it looks like Zygarde's cells would be as tall as a Pikachu 1'08
[[User:Theexploringgamer|Theexploringgamer]] ([[User talk:Theexploringgamer|talk]]) 20:21, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
:Pokemon heights vary all the time in the anime. For example, Ash's Charizard is huge compared to its in-game Pokédex entry height, and Ash's is small for a Charizard in the anime. Basically, you can't use anime height to determine game height. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 20:24, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

::That is true,but I think that'll itll help add them in the [[List of Pokémon by height]] and until its official I think we could propose an estimated height.
::Also, may we add artwork of Blue core Zygarde
::[[User:Theexploringgamer|Theexploringgamer]] ([[User talk:Theexploringgamer|talk]]) 21:26, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
:::Either heights (or weight or any other such stats) are to be taken from official sources, or we will not list ''any'' height. We do not "estimate"—do not ''make up''—these things. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:29, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

== No Pokémon Z version? ==

With the recent announcement of Sun and Moon, does that mean Zygarde's alternate forms are exclusive to the Pokémon animé? If so, we should probably take out any mention of those forms in the main article.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] ([[User talk:Pokencyclopedia|talk]]) 13:04, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

:Just because new forms debut in the anime does not mean they'll never be in a game, who knows they could be in Sun and Moon when more info comes.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]13:06, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

== should it be mentioned that Zygarde 10% is Dragon type in Shuffle ==

Zygarde 10% was recently added to Pokemon Shuffle with the Dragon typing. should it be mention on the article in some way? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 10:55, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
:never mind, i wasn't aware it was confirmed the new forms keep its dragon/ground typing[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 11:04, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

== Loki and Tsuchinoko? ==

I just edited the origin section and I couldn't find much evidence to support the idea that Zygarde Complete is based off of Loki; everything points to Hel. As such I removed the references to Loki as a possible reference. However, I would more than happily add it back in if anyone objects - just give me a couple places to source which link Zygarde to Loki in some sort of concrete way. [[User:Pacack| '''Pa'''ᗧ•••ᗣ'''ck''' ]] 02:43, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
:Likewise, I found little to no link between Zygarde Cell/Core and the Tsuchinoko, so I removed reference to it in the origin section. If anyone seriously disagrees, please explain why and give some sort of information which links the Tsuchinoko to Zygarde more concretely. :) [[User:Pacack| '''Pa'''ᗧ•••ᗣ'''ck''' ]] 03:41, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

:::Well I'd like to expand on the Loki part, as Zygarde in total is able to change between multiple forms similiarly Loki is commonly known to have shapeshifted to do his trickery and the like. The part with Tsuchinoko is the core and cell's body structure being similar to it, being a larger middle portion with a thinner head and tail.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]09:07, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

::::I think it might be based on Beast Boy from Teen Titans. Like Beast Boy, it changes shape, and is green in all of its formes. Beast Boy's body-shape in Teen Titans Go has a larger head with a smaller body, like 10% and Core formes. Furthermore, Beast Boy is an environmentalist, much like how Zygarde protects the balance of the ecosystem. Finally, both Beast Boy and Zygarde have a seldom seen "final form", with Beast Boy having a mutant werewolf form that only appeared twice, and Zygarde having 100% forme that has thusfar only appeared in dreams. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 20:34, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::If you are trying to be sarcastic, I'm not sure it is helping. :/ ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 20:51, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

== Sköll and Hati ==

Should it be noted that 10% might be a general be based on Sköll and/or Hati, most particularly Sköll who chases the sun. The cores uses photosynthesis to get energy, so there is some correlation.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 16:51, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

== Excessive origin section ==

Everything I have to say has been said in edit summaries, so I'll just copy-paste them here for the record:
* 09:13, May 4, 2016‎ Gymnotide (Talk | contribs)‎ . . (23,866 bytes) (-634)‎ . . (→‎Origin: Some very unnecessary details that were reaching extremely hard by someone who just wanted to show off their mythology knowledge. Trimmed it down a little bit. Also, the pattern does not resemble DNA sugars at all.)
* 10:03, May 4, 2016‎ Animaltamer7 (Talk | contribs)‎ . . (24,500 bytes) (+634)‎ . . (Undo revision 2437284 by Gymnotide (talk) the info would help for those who don't even know about those certain myths)
* 13:55, May 4, 2016‎ Pumpkinking0192 (Talk | contribs)‎ . . (23,922 bytes) (-578)‎ . . (→‎Origin: No, this is definitely way overwritten, and honestly the DNA thing is a bit ridiculous. Origin sections are (or should be) for explaining the ACTUAL likely origin of a Pokemon, not for adding in every tenuously-related detail possible.)
* 20:56, May 4, 2016‎ Animaltamer7 (Talk | contribs)‎ . . (24,500 bytes) (+578)‎ . . (Undo revision 2437344 by Pumpkinking0192 (talk) Discuss on the talkpage first so this doesn't become an edit war)
To boil it down: The DNA thing is completely out of nowhere and should be removed outright, and everything else is written in far too excessive detail. We should be breaking down the things that are most relevant to Zygarde and most likely to be what the developers had in mind, not every little tidbit somebody can claim is a minor connection.

I also find it ''extremely'' funny that Animaltamer7 is telling others to go to the talk page to avoid an edit war when ''they'' are the one repeatedly reverting in the first place. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:15, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
:I saw the edits in recent changes, and looking at the added content, some of those additions are a bit strange, for instance:
<pre>
The patterns spread across Zygarde 50% Forme's body are similar to ribose and deoxyribose molecules.
</pre>
:The artwork for the 50% forme only shows hexagons. To state they are similar to those molecules is inaccurate and possibly over-speculation, because the ''molecule'' itself is 3-dimensional (the {{wp|Haworth projection}} is a simplified 2D representation), and most (if not all) sugar molecules represented in the Haworth projection will have the hexagon present. [[User:Chenzw|Chenzw]] ([[User talk:Chenzw|talk]]) 03:46, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

::That's because if you think about it that Zygarde represents balance between Xerneas (life) and Yveltal (death). The ribose and deoxyribose are what makes up anything that is alive or dead. Also Pumpkinking I was just making sure that once the discussion is settled the origin section can be change to how we agree on this.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]04:10, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
:::I am sorry, but I think the connection is still not immediately clear. Why can't the hexagon(s) represent carbon (cyclohexane), which is also something that makes up everything alive or dead? Also, I think the hexagons' link to ribose and deoxyribose are sufficiently strong only if it's supported by the fact that the tail indeed represents base pair codons. I question the relevance of the tail to base pair codons because there are 5 of them, while DNA has only 4 known nucleotides. Yes, I concede that it is possible for the 5th tail "protrusion" to represent uracil used in RNA, but that seems to be pushing it too far. As of now, three editors (including myself) take issue with the content in one way or another.
:::For future reference:
:::*The part about DNA was added in Oct 2013: [[Special:Diff/1997681]]
:::*Other content pertaining to possible mythological origins/inspirations added in Nov 2015: [[Special:Diff/2356983]]. [[User:Chenzw|Chenzw]] ([[User talk:Chenzw|talk]]) 06:59, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
::::I would just like to point out that the DNA portion is removed now. I wanted to point this out because it honestly sounds like this discussion is about trying to remove it. As it is, I think the origin portion of this page is fine. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 08:03, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

::::Alright I'll concede with the DNA portion, but for these two statements:
::::"The red and blue markings on either side of Zygarde Complete Forme may represent Yveltal and Xerneas, as this Forme exceeds both of their powers."
::::The markings it is talking about are from the protrusions of the side of Complete Forme's arms no the chest pattern, with those being the markings that represent the two.
::::"...and its razor sharp teeth may be an allusion to Fenrir biting off the right hand of Týr"
::::10% Forme's sharp teeth has been mentioned quite a bit so it would be too far to include this.
::::Also the bit of the dragon/serpent that naws on the roots of Yggdrasill, should stay as Xerneas and Yveltal have a resemblance to two other creatures from the tree, which is another hint at them possibly being a trio (as quite alot of fans assume they are, myself included).[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]08:25, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
:::::The point brought up by "The red and blue markings on either side of Zygarde Complete Forme may represent Yveltal and Xerneas, as this Forme exceeds both of their powers." has already been mentioned in the article:
:::::*"Zygarde Complete Forme is said to exceed both Xerneas and Yveltal in power..."
:::::*"The colors on Complete Forme's chest match the colors of the real-world flag of France... main colors of Xerneas and Yveltal"
:::::...unless the intention is to place emphasis on "represent", which I fear will lend undue weight to the theory that Zygarde is part of the hypothesised Mortality Trio. [[User:Chenzw|Chenzw]] ([[User talk:Chenzw|talk]]) 04:06, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
::::::Alright point taken, unless the hypothesised trio is confirmed that statement won't be added. Since you didn't say anything about the razor sharp teeth info, can that be added back?[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]04:28, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
:::::::Mythology is not my strong suit, so I don't really have an opinion on this. However, based on the edit history, the consensus seems to be that there is an issue with going into too much detail. It might be better to wait and see if the reverting editors, or any passing staff member, have any opinion on this matter. [[User:Chenzw|Chenzw]] ([[User talk:Chenzw|talk]]) 04:41, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
(resent indent) Agreed, besides I'm doing a Nuzlocke and there is going to be heavy mythological references relating to the Legends such as Zygarde.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]06:29, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
:I think the section is fine as it is for now. I don't think we need to call anymore attention to the "razor sharp teeth". It's could just have sharp teeth because it's a dog, and that's all. People are welcome to click the wikilinks and find out the backstory that way. I don't think we need to make any more adjustments unless someone has ideas that have not already been discussed. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 12:48, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

== Complete Zygarde's HP ==

From calculations using the HP in the most recent trailers, it can be deduced that Complete Zygarde's base HP is between 180 and 227. While its exact HP remains unconfirmed and thus shouldn't be added to the article, perhaps it's worth noting that Complete Zygarde is already guaranteed to have the highest stat from all Dragon and Ground types.
[[User:Jugol|Jugol]] ([[User talk:Jugol|talk]]) 14:19, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
:No. 1) It can change. 2) It won't kill anyone to wait. 3) It could also turn out that something ''else'' will be introduced that beats it out anyway. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:28, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

== "Introduced in Sun and Moon" ==

"Zygarde Cell, Zygarde Core, Zygarde 10% Forme, and Zygarde Complete Forme were announced in the October 2015 issue of CoroCoro magazine, and will be introduced in Pokémon Sun and Moon." - This sentence makes it sound like Zygarde Cell and Core will be in Sun and Moon, but only the latter 2 are confirmed.--[[User:Yami Wheeler|Yami Wheeler]] ([[User talk:Yami Wheeler|talk]]) 17:59, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
:I've corrected the sentence. Thanks. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:05, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

== Zygarde Sun & Moon Possible Trivia ==

I feel the trivia or origin section of this page should include the possibility that Zygarde's perfect forme is related to not only Yveltal and Xerneas, but also to Solgaleo and Lunala. This theory being based on the fact that in the "mouth" of the perfect forme's torso, we can see that there are 5 different colored hexagons in order, purple-blue-white-orange-red, which could very well reference that there are 5 cores with at least 4 of them referencing the color of Xerneas (blue), Yveltal (red), Solgaleo (orange), and Lunala (purple). What do you think?
:Bulbapedia is not the place for theories. It's far too early to say whether Zygarde's lore will be tied in with anything else in Sun/Moon. Unless it ends up ''explicitly'' related to Solgaleo/Lunala, I don't think anything like that will ever belong anywhere in the mainspace. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:25, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

== Abilities ==

Right now, they're displayed as Forme-exclusive. However, now that we know that isn't the case, since 50% Forme also has it, we don't know how Zygarde gets the Ability at all, only that it's wrong to show it as Forme-based. Could I suggest adding an "Unknown" section - just like Hidden Abilities are separated, just with the word Unknown rather than Hidden - for Swarm Change and removing the Forme headings from Abilities altogether? Just ''for now,'' at least, until we know something. It seems wrong to have them shown as Forme-based when the one thing we ''do'' know right now is that they aren't, so if an Unknown section is ''possible to add,'' I personally think that would be the best way of handling it.
If not, could ''something'' be done to indicate that 50% Forme also has it, at least? I see in the page history that it can't simply be added as an alternate Ability (like Shiftry's Chlorophyll or Early Bird), and that's completely understandable since we don't know that anyway, but right now, the page is outdated, so if we could at least mention it somewhere, I think that would help a lot. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 06:32, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
:Scratch that! The official site now lists it as an alternate Ability so I assume it's safe to include now. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 13:15, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

== Image and Ability Order ==
Is there a specific reason for the order of the images and the abilities in the main infobox on this page? I can understand having Zygarde 50% forme at the top (it being the first forme to debut in the games), but underneath that, the Complete Forme is on the left and the 10% forme is on the right. It would seem to me that on an English-speaking site that is read left to right, it'd make more sense the other way around (with the lower-numbered "base" forme on the left, and the higher-numbered forme that becomes available under specific conditions on the right. The image order is repeated in the ability section, and again I think it'd make more sense with the 10% and 100% formes switched, and the height and weight fields feature a variation on that where the 10% forme is underneath the other two, rather than the 100% forme that can be achieved by either of the other two formes being on the bottom, which I think would make more sense. Am I alone in thinking a change from the current order would be preferable? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 21:18, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Comatose (Ability)

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AndyPKMN: Created page with "==Effect== Currently, this page's description of the ability is "Comatose prevents the Pokémon with this Ability from being afflicted by any status condition except sleep," w..."

==Effect==
Currently, this page's description of the ability is "Comatose prevents the Pokémon with this Ability from being afflicted by any status condition except sleep," which suggests it can fall asleep or wake up from sleep, but is not affected by other status conditions even if it is currently awake. I was wondering if this should be changed based on the description on the [http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon/komala/ official website], which seems to imply that the ability makes it maintain the sleep condition constantly (and thus, it can't be afflicted with other status conditions because it can't wake up from the sleep condition in the first place). Am I misreading this, or should the page be changed? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 21:02, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Vikavolt (Pokémon)

2016-07-01T20:42:13Z

AndyPKMN: /* English name */

==Origin==
Based on the apparent English name "Vikavolt" (which seems to have been leaked and has been reported on sites like Polygon and Kotaku) and this Pokémon's general appearance, I'm led to suspect that this Pokémon may be based at least partially on the [http://gradius.wikia.com/wiki/Vic_Viper Vic Viper] from the classic video game Gradius. Would that be considered a credible origin for this Pokémon, or should we wait for an official English name reveal and/or further evidence? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 17:12, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
:As a rule, we're gun shy about copyrighted stuff unless there's been an official statement about it. (It's been a problem before.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:39, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

== Russian name ==

Could someone please add this to the in other languages section?

|ru=Викаволт ''Vikavolt''|rumeaning=Transcription of English name

--[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 16:16, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

== Type-effectiveness Template ==
Asking here since I don't know any better place to do so. For the newly-revealed Pokémon, are we purposefully omitting the type-effectiveness chart in case there are any changes to specific weaknesses and resistances, or has it just not been added to the appropriate pages yet? For a Pokémon like this which has both its type and ability revealed it'd seem like something simple enough to add... --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 16:30, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

== English name ==

Where does "Vika" come from?[[User:Chrisbulb|Christian]] ([[User talk:Chrisbulb|talk]]) 18:29, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
:My guess (as mentioned earlier on the page) is "Vic Viper", a spaceship from the classic arcade game Gradius that this Pokémon highly resembles. But absent any sort of official confirmation it's hard to tell for sure. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 20:42, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Vikavolt (Pokémon)

2016-07-01T16:30:06Z

AndyPKMN:

Talk:Grubbin (Pokémon)

2016-06-30T18:15:51Z

AndyPKMN: /* Somebody needs to add that Grubbin evolves into Charjabug and Vikavolt */

==In other lanuages==
Could someone please add this section to the article
{{Other languages|color={{normal color}}|bordercolor={{normal color dark}}
|ja=Pokémon|jameaning=Pokémon
|fr=Larvibule|frmeaning=
|de=Mabula|demeaning=
|it=Grubbin|itmeaning=Same as English name
|ko=|komeaning=
|es=Grubbin|esmeaning=Same as English anme
|ru=Граббин ''Grabbin''|rumeaning=Transcription of English name
}}
{{-}}
--[[User:Raltseye|Ralts]][[User talk:Raltseye|eye]] 17:35, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
:Perhaps if you make it so its Japanese name isn't Baton Pass ;). Agojimushi is almost definitely from "ago" (jaw) and "kabutomushi" (beetle), but I don't know what else. There's definitely more in there but I don't have enough knowledge of Japanese to catch it. — [[User:Kianglo|KiANGLO]] [[User talk:Kianglo|TALK]] 18:16, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
::The table only displays baton pass because I didn't know its Japanese name and therefore didn't write anything in that field, my friend :P see now it says Pokémon, why you may ask, just because I will respond ;) --[[User:Raltseye|Ralts]][[User talk:Raltseye|eye]] 18:22, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
:::Well, we still know its Japanese name (アゴジムシ ''Agojimushi'') so that should definitely be placed there, even if we haven't nailed down the origin yet. I'm pretty certain on what I said before with 顎 ''ago'' (jaw), and 虫 ''mushi'' (insect) is a more accurate explanation for the last two characters. That still leaves a syllable unaccounted for, so someone who knows Japanese better will have to give their input on what the most likely explanation for ジ ''ji'' is. My best guess would have to be 磁 ''ji'' (magnetic). That would make sense given its described love of electricity (which may hint at the typing of its evolved form and thereby be significant enough to mention) but there's no official source linking it specifically to magnetism at the moment. — [[User:Kianglo|KiANGLO]] [[User talk:Kianglo|TALK]] 05:00, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

== Name Origin ==

Likely comes from [http://www.dictionary.com/browse/grub?r=75&src=ref&ch=dic grub], and possibly "grabbing". Definitely grub though. [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 22:04, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

== Somebody needs to add that Grubbin evolves into Charjabug and Vikavolt ==

It's fairly obvious that Grubbin is a pre-Charjabug. This should be fixed. {{unsigned|Chuckwoodjohn}}

:"Fairly obvious" is not a strong enough basis for that kind of addition. Until there's official confirmation one way or the other we can't assume things like that. Also, remember to sign your posts on talk pages with four tildes (~) --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 18:15, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Vikavolt (Pokémon)

2016-06-30T17:12:57Z

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Talk:Clay Tunnel

2016-03-27T23:05:47Z

AndyPKMN:

==Connection points to Mistralton Cave and Twist Mountain==

The connection points to Mistralton Cave and Twist Mountain are accessed after heading to the west side of the first room (after the entrance) until you see some Workers standing by a bunch of boulders. You have to talk to a Worker in a group (in the center of the group). He will ask if you have a Pokémon with Rock Smash in your party. (If you do, great! If not, go get one yourself. If you don't have the TM, get it at Virbank Complex.) If you have a Pokémon with Rock Smash in your party, the boulders will be removed. After entering the room blocked by the boulders (after doing the whole talking to the worker thing, obviously), go to the western part of the room you're in (doesn't matter if you surf in the water, take the land route, or whatever, just get there) and you will notice two doors. One (the smaller one) leads to Mistralton Cave. The other (the big one) leads into another room. From here, go all the way north until you see ANOTHER big door. Go in here, and you'll be in the Ice Rock room of Twist Mountain - take the entrance from here out into Regigigas' room or go out of the Ice Rock room into the bigger Twist Mountain area. Basically, this is another way to get to an area accessible by minecart without this whole Rock Smash business. I'm noting it because I tried it on my White 2 and it works.

You may ask, "Why did you waste all my time with this long direction cheat sheet?!" Well, I said it because I feel that it needs to be noted on the actual article - obviously, in better formatting. (while you're at it, remove the Strength boulder text from the trivia section - if it has a non-decorative purpose, e.g. being able to be cleared to lead to another area - it's not trivia!)

btw, there's a big nugget in a rock by the entrance to the Underground Ruins - note it on the items section! [[User:Mysterious Ivysaur|Mysterious Ivysaur]] ([[User talk:Mysterious Ivysaur|talk]]) 02:50, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

==Pecentages==
Why are the percentage blank for the page and the Underground Ruins one? [[User:BurnyBurn|BurnyBurn]] ([[User talk:BurnyBurn|talk]]) 17:38, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
::Fixed it [[User:Cafeolay|Cafeolay]] ([[User talk:Cafeolay|talk]]) 01:56, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

==Worker Leo==
On my version of Black 2, Worker Leo opens with Onix, not with Graveler like it says on this page. It should probably be changed but I figured it'd be safer to see if someone with White 2 could verify to make sure it doesn't differ by version. —[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 23:05, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Funfest Mission

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AndyPKMN: /* Detailed Information */

{{cleanup}}
{{incomplete|needs=Prizes for Missions, details on Missions}}
'''Funfest Missions''' are a feature of {{game|Black and White|s|Pokémon Black 2 and White 2|2}} which were introduced in place of {{DL|Entralink|Entralink Missions}} which were available in {{g|Black and White}}. To activate a Funfest Mission, the player must warp to [[Entralink]] and activate a mission from the [[Entree]]. Once activated, the player will be warped back to their previous location and the mission will begin. Funfest Missions can be activated anywhere in Unova, and unlike Entralink Missions, they can be played either alone or with up to 100 others.

Upon the successful completion of a mission, the player will be rewarded with {{DL|Entralink|Pass Orbs}} or alternative items depending on the mission, and growth of the player's own Entree. The growth of the player's Entree depends on the version of the player's game: if the player completed a mission on Pokémon Black 2, the ★Black level of the player would increase by 1. Similarly, if a ''visiting'' player successfully completes a mission, growth of the visiting player's Entree depends on the version of the player he or she visited.

Further levels can be unlocked by successfully completing the lower level missions.

==List of Funfest Missions==
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #a0a0c4; border: 3px solid #bbbbe8"
|-
! style="background: #ccf; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Funfest Missions
! style="background: #ccf" | Time limit
! style="background: #ccf" | Lv. 1 Target
! style="background: #ccf" | Lv. 2 Target
! style="background: #ccf" | Lv. 3 Target
! style="background: #ccf" | {{tt|Lv. 4|Accessed by pressing Select, down 3 times, up 4 times, then Select in order}} Target
! style="background: #ccf" | Description
! style="background: #ccf; {{roundytr}}" | Prizes
|- style="background: #ddf"
| The First Berry Search! || 3 min. ||5||||||||| Collect 5 or more Berries within the time limit! Look for shining places in towns and on roads! ||{{Bag|Pass Orb}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Collect Berries! || 3 min. ||3||6||12||25||| Collect <number> or more Berries within the time limit! Look for shining places in towns and on roads! || {{Bag|Pass Orb}}
|- style="background: #def"
| Find Lost Items! || 5 min. ||10||15||20||40||| Collect <number> or more lost items within the time limit. Many can be found in towns and on roads! || {{Bag|Pass Orb}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Find Lost Boys! || 3 min. ||4||8||16||50||| Find <number> or more lost children within the time limit! Speak to boys in towns and on roads! || {{Bag|Pass Orb}}
|- style="background: #def"
| Enjoy Shopping! || 3 min. ||3||6||12||25||| Enjoy bargain shopping! Speak to shop clerks in towns and on roads, and shop <number> or more times! || {{Bag|Pass Orb}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Find Audino! || 5 min. ||1||5||10||50||| Find Audino in rustling grass! Defeat or catch <number> or more Pokémon to accomplish the mission! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Search for <number> Pokémon! || 3 min. ||3||5||10||50||| Find Pokémon in rustling grass and dust clouds. Find <number> Pokémon to clear the mission! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Train with Martial Artists! || 5 min. ||2||4||8||100||| Fight with novice martial artists, and help with their training! Defeat <number> or more martial artists within the time limit! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Sparring with <number> Trainers! || {{tt|3 min.|Bonus time is added after each Trainer defeated.}} ||10||30||50||100||| Fight with novice martial artists, and help with their training! Defeat <number> or more martial artists! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Get Rich Quick!{{sup/5|B2}} || 3 min. ||3||6||12||25||| Collect <number> or more treasures within the time limit! Look for shining places in caves and forests! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Treasure Hunting!{{sup/5|W2}} || 3 min. ||3||12||24||45||| Collect <number> or more treasures within the time limit! Look for shining places in caves and forests! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Exciting Trading!!{{sup/5|B2}} || 5 min. ||2||4||8||50||| Trade items with <number> or more people! Speak to Backpackers who travel all over the world!||
|- style="background: #def"
| Exhilarating Trading!!{{sup/5|W2}} || 5 min. ||2||4||8||50||| Trade items with <number> or more people! Speak to Backpackers who travel all over the world!||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Find Emolga! || 5 min. ||1||5||10||30||| Find Emolga in rustling grass! The Pokémon are said to be found on Route 5. Take advantage of their Abilities. ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Wings Falling on the Drawbridge || 3 min. ||5||10||40||100||| Pick up and collect [[Wing|wings]] at Driftveil Drawbridge! When you hear Pokémon fluttering their wings, check nearby areas! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Find Treasures! || 3 min. ||5||10||20||100||| Find treasures, which can be found in caves in different areas! Look for dust clouds! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Mushrooms' Hide-and-Seek! || 5 min. ||3||10||30||5||| Find Foongus hiding in tall grass! They look like Poké Balls! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Find Mysterious{{sup/5|B2}}/Shining{{sup/5|W2}} Ores! || 5 min. ||10||20||30||30||| Find mysterious ores! Search caves and roads, and collect <number> or more items! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| The <number> Lost Treasures || 5 min. ||2||4||10||30||| Find the lost relic treasures! Of course, they won't be found so easily... ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Big Harvest of Berries! || 3 min. ||6||12||24||100||| Collect <number> or more Berries within the time limit! It is said that a lot of them can be found in forests and on roads! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Ring the Bell... || 3 min. ||1||2||8||10||| Ring the bell at the top of Celestial Tower! Start all over from the entrance to do it multiple times! || {{Bag|Pass Orb}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
| The Bell that Rings <number> Times || {{tt|3 min.|Bonus time is added with each successful ring.}} ||3||5||7||10||| Ring the bell at the top of Celestial Tower! Ring it <number> times to clear the mission! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Path to an Ace! || 5 min. ||3||6||12||50||| Be a training partner for Ace Trainers! Defeat <number> or more Ace Trainers within the time limit! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Shocking Shopping! || 3 min. ||4||8||32||100||| Speak to men wearing black, and buy rare items! Every time you speak to them, the prices will change. Don't get swindled! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Memory Training! || 3 min. ||6||10||12||50||| Speak to Clowns in towns and on roads, and answer quizzes! Answer questions correctly <number> times, and the mission will be a success! || {{Bag|Heart Scale}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Push the Limit of Your Memory... || 5 min. ||5||10||?||?|| Speak to Clowns in towns and on roads, and answer quizzes. The quiz will get harder and harder. Keep answering questions correctly! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Find Rustling Grass! || 10 min. ||5||10||20||100||| Find Pokémon in rustling grass and dust clouds. ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Find Shards! || 3 min. ||3||16||32||100||| Collect <number> or more shards within the time limit! Look for shining places in towns and on roads! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Forgotten{{sup/5|B2}}/Not-Found{{sup/5|W2}} Lost Items || 2 min. ||5||10||50||100||| Collect <number> or more lost items within the time limit. Many can be found in towns and roads! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Mulch Collector! || 3 min. ||6||12||24||9||| Collect <number> or more Mulches within the time limit! Look for shining places in caves and forests! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| What is the Best{{sup/5|B2}}/Real{{sup/5|W2}} Price?|| 3 min. ||6||12||?||50|||Speak to men wearing black, and buy rare items! Every time you speak to them, the prices will change. Don't get swindled! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Fishing Competition! || 3 min. ||5||10||15||30|||Use the Super Rod to catch Pokémon! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Give Me the Item! || 5 min. ||10||15||20||40||| Find <number> or more Youngsters who lost their items and are in trouble. Help them within the time limit! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Search Hidden Grottoes || 10 min. ||1||3||?||3||| Visit [[Hidden Grotto]]es in different areas, and find Pokémon! Find <number> or more Pokémon to accomplish the mission! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Where are Fluttering Hearts? || 5 min. ||10||20||?||100||| Collect <number> or more items in towns and on roads! Look for shining places! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Take a Walk with Eggs! || 10 min. ||3||12||?||100||| Hatch Pokémon Eggs! Walk a lot! Run a lot, too! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| The Berry-Hunting Adventure! || 3 min. ||5||20||?||100||| Go to many different places to look for Berries! Look for shining places in forests and caves! ||
|-
| style="background: #ddf; {{roundybl|5px}}" | Find Steelix!
| style="background: #ddf" | 5 min.
| style="background: #ddf" | 1
| style="background: #ddf" | 5
| style="background: #ddf" | 15
| style="background: #ddf" | 30
| style="background: #ddf" | Find Steelix! Try to find dust clouds in caves!
| style="background: #ddf; {{roundybr|5px}}" |
|}

==Detailed Information==
===The First Berry Search!===
The player's first mission will be to find 5 [[Berry|Berries]] within 3 minutes. As with all missions collecting Berries, cities and routes have places that glow which will allow the player to obtain a Berry when stepped on. The 5 Berries that can be found are:
*[[Oran Berry]]
*[[Rawst Berry]]
*[[Pecha Berry]]
*[[Chesto Berry]]
*[[Cheri Berry]]
This mission is only available the first time Funfest Missions are activated and will be no longer available afterward.

===Collect Berries!===
This mission is unlocked after completing "The First Berry Search!". During the mission, glowing spots appear in cities and on routes which yield Berries when stepped on. The 5 Berries that can be found in this mission are:
*[[Oran Berry]]
*[[Rawst Berry]]
*[[Pecha Berry]]
*[[Chesto Berry]]
*[[Cheri Berry]]

===Find Lost Items!===
This mission is unlocked after completing "Collect Berries!". During the mission, glowing spots appear in towns and on roads which yield items when stepped on. The 6 items that can be found in this mission are:
*[[Poké Ball]]
*[[Antidote]]
*[[Fresh Water]]
*[[Paralyz Heal]]
*[[Escape Rope]]
*[[Big Pearl]]

===Find Lost Boys===
During this mission, small boys appear in towns and on routes. If the player talks to a boy, the player will show them his [[Town Map]] and the boy will thank the player and leave.

===Enjoy Shopping!===
During this mission, Poké Mart clerks appear in towns and on roads. If the player talks to a clerk, they can purchase a specific item at a lower price. The 11 items that can be purchased in this manner are:

{| class="roundy sortable" align="left" style="border: 3px solid #0066FF; background: #66BBFF;"
|-
!
! Item
! Original Price
! Bargain Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Antidote}}
| {{DL|Status condition healing item|Antidote}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}100
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}50
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Awakening}}
| {{DL|Status condition healing item|Awakening}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}250
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}125
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Burn Heal}}
| {{DL|Status condition healing item|Burn Heal}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}250
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}125
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Greet Mail}}
| {{DL|Mail|Greet Mail}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}50
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}25
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Luxury Ball}}
| {{ball|Luxury}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}1000
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Paralyze Heal}}
| {{DL|Status condition healing item|Paralyze Heal|Parlyz Heal}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}200
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}100
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Potion}}
| {{DL|Potion|Potion}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}300
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}150
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Premier Ball}}
| {{ball|Premier}}
| align="center" | ---
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Repel}}
| {{DL|Repel|Repel}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}350
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}175
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| | {{Bag|Revive}}
| {{DL|Revive|Revive}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}1200
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}600
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Super Potion}}
| style="{{roundybl|5px}}" | {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}700
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" align="center" | {{PDollar}}350
|}{{-}}

===Search for <number> Pokémon===
This mission tasks the player with catching or defeating Pokémon found in rustling grass or dust clouds (fleeing from Pokémon does not count toward the tally). Each time a player catches or defeats a Pokémon found in this manner, a time bonus is added to the timer. When the requisite number of Pokémon have been caught or defeated, the mission ends.

===Train with Martial Artists! / Sparring with <number> Trainers!===
During this mission, Black Belts appear in towns, on roads, and in caves. They will only battle the player if talked to. Their Pokémon start at level {{tt|15|13 in Easy Mode, 17 in Challenge Mode}} and increase by one with each additional Trainer encountered. The base pay for each Trainer is {{PDollar}}32. In the mission "Sparring with <number> Trainers", a time bonus is added to the timer each time the player defeats one of the Black Belts, and the mission ends when the requisite number of trainers has been defeated.

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{{Trainerdiv|fighting}}
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{{Trainerdiv|fighting}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Black Belt.png|Black Belt|Grigor|32*level|1|447|Riolu|♂|{{tt|15+|13+ in Easy Mode, 17+ in Challenge Mode}}|None|36=?|37=?}}
{{Trainerdiv|fighting}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Black Belt.png|Black Belt|Andrey|32*level|1|532|Timburr|♂|{{tt|15+|13+ in Easy Mode, 17+ in Challenge Mode}}|None|36=?|37=?}}
{{Trainerdiv|fighting}}
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{{Trainerdiv|fighting}}
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{{Trainerfooter|fighting|V}}

===Path to an Ace!===
During this mission, Ace Trainers appear in towns, on roads, and in caves. They will only battle the player if talked to. Their Pokémon start at level {{tt|40|39 in Easy Mode, 43 in Challenge Mode}} and increase by one with each additional Trainer encountered. The base pay for each Trainer is {{PDollar}}60.

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{{Trainerdiv|land}}
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{{Trainerdiv|land}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Ace Trainer F.png|Ace Trainer|Jacqueline|60*level|1|530|Excadrill|♀|{{tt|40+|39+ in Easy Mode, 43+ in Challenge Mode}}|None|36=?|37=?}}
{{Trainerdiv|land}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Ace Trainer F.png|Ace Trainer|Eve|60*level|1|586|Sawsbuck|♀|{{tt|40+|39+ in Easy Mode, 43+ in Challenge Mode}}|None|36=?|37=?}}
{{Trainerdiv|land}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Ace Trainer F.png|Ace Trainer|Nina|60*level|1|596|Galvantula|♀|{{tt|40+|39+ in Easy Mode, 43+ in Challenge Mode}}|None|36=?|37=?}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Ace Trainer F.png|Ace Trainer|Natasha|60*level|1|614|Beartic|♀|{{tt|40+|39+ in Easy Mode, 43+ in Challenge Mode}}|None|36=?|37=?}}

{{Trainerfooter|land|V}}

===Big Harvest of Berries!===
During this mission, glowing spots appear in forests and on roads which yield Berries when stepped on. The 6 Berries that can be found in this mission are:
*[[Oran Berry]]
*[[Lum Berry]]
*[[Aspear Berry]]
*[[Sitrus Berry]]
*[[Persim Berry]]
*[[Leppa Berry]]

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Funfest Mission

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'''Funfest Missions''' are a feature of {{game|Black and White|s|Pokémon Black 2 and White 2|2}} which were introduced in place of {{DL|Entralink|Entralink Missions}} which were available in {{g|Black and White}}. To activate a Funfest Mission, the player must warp to [[Entralink]] and activate a mission from the [[Entree]]. Once activated, the player will be warped back to their previous location and the mission will begin. Funfest Missions can be activated anywhere in Unova, and unlike Entralink Missions, they can be played either alone or with up to 100 others.

Upon the successful completion of a mission, the player will be rewarded with {{DL|Entralink|Pass Orbs}} or alternative items depending on the mission, and growth of the player's own Entree. The growth of the player's Entree depends on the version of the player's game: if the player completed a mission on Pokémon Black 2, the ★Black level of the player would increase by 1. Similarly, if a ''visiting'' player successfully completes a mission, growth of the visiting player's Entree depends on the version of the player he or she visited.

Further levels can be unlocked by successfully completing the lower level missions.

==List of Funfest Missions==
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #a0a0c4; border: 3px solid #bbbbe8"
|-
! style="background: #ccf; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Funfest Missions
! style="background: #ccf" | Time limit
! style="background: #ccf" | Lv. 1 Target
! style="background: #ccf" | Lv. 2 Target
! style="background: #ccf" | Lv. 3 Target
! style="background: #ccf" | {{tt|Lv. 4|Accessed by pressing Select, down 3 times, up 4 times, then Select in order}} Target
! style="background: #ccf" | Description
! style="background: #ccf; {{roundytr}}" | Prizes
|- style="background: #ddf"
| The First Berry Search! || 3 min. ||5||||||||| Collect 5 or more Berries within the time limit! Look for shining places in towns and on roads! ||{{Bag|Pass Orb}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Collect Berries! || 3 min. ||3||6||12||25||| Collect <number> or more Berries within the time limit! Look for shining places in towns and on roads! || {{Bag|Pass Orb}}
|- style="background: #def"
| Find Lost Items! || 5 min. ||10||15||20||40||| Collect <number> or more lost items within the time limit. Many can be found in towns and on roads! || {{Bag|Pass Orb}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Find Lost Boys! || 3 min. ||4||8||16||50||| Find <number> or more lost children within the time limit! Speak to boys in towns and on roads! || {{Bag|Pass Orb}}
|- style="background: #def"
| Enjoy Shopping! || 3 min. ||3||6||12||25||| Enjoy bargain shopping! Speak to shop clerks in towns and on roads, and shop <number> or more times! || {{Bag|Pass Orb}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Find Audino! || 5 min. ||1||5||10||50||| Find Audino in rustling grass! Defeat or catch <number> or more Pokémon to accomplish the mission! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Search for <number> Pokémon! || 3 min. ||3||5||10||50||| Find Pokémon in rustling grass and dust clouds. Find <number> Pokémon to clear the mission! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Train with Martial Artists! || 5 min. ||2||4||8||100||| Fight with novice martial artists, and help with their training! Defeat <number> or more martial artists within the time limit! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Sparring with <number> Trainers! || {{tt|3 min.|Bonus time is added after each Trainer defeated.}} ||10||30||50||100||| Fight with novice martial artists, and help with their training! Defeat <number> or more martial artists! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Get Rich Quick!{{sup/5|B2}} || 3 min. ||3||6||12||25||| Collect <number> or more treasures within the time limit! Look for shining places in caves and forests! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Treasure Hunting!{{sup/5|W2}} || 3 min. ||3||12||24||45||| Collect <number> or more treasures within the time limit! Look for shining places in caves and forests! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Exciting Trading!!{{sup/5|B2}} || 5 min. ||2||4||8||50||| Trade items with <number> or more people! Speak to Backpackers who travel all over the world!||
|- style="background: #def"
| Exhilarating Trading!!{{sup/5|W2}} || 5 min. ||2||4||8||50||| Trade items with <number> or more people! Speak to Backpackers who travel all over the world!||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Find Emolga! || 5 min. ||1||5||10||30||| Find Emolga in rustling grass! The Pokémon are said to be found on Route 5. Take advantage of their Abilities. ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Wings Falling on the Drawbridge || 3 min. ||5||10||40||100||| Pick up and collect [[Wing|wings]] at Driftveil Drawbridge! When you hear Pokémon fluttering their wings, check nearby areas! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Find Treasures! || 3 min. ||5||10||20||100||| Find treasures, which can be found in caves in different areas! Look for dust clouds! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Mushrooms' Hide-and-Seek! || 5 min. ||3||10||30||5||| Find Foongus hiding in tall grass! They look like Poké Balls! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Find Mysterious{{sup/5|B2}}/Shining{{sup/5|W2}} Ores! || 5 min. ||10||20||30||30||| Find mysterious ores! Search caves and roads, and collect <number> or more items! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| The <number> Lost Treasures || 5 min. ||2||4||10||30||| Find the lost relic treasures! Of course, they won't be found so easily... ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Big Harvest of Berries! || 3 min. ||6||12||24||100||| Collect <number> or more Berries within the time limit! It is said that a lot of them can be found in forests and on roads! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Ring the Bell... || 3 min. ||1||2||8||10||| Ring the bell at the top of Celestial Tower! Start all over from the entrance to do it multiple times! || {{Bag|Pass Orb}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
| The Bell that Rings <number> Times || {{tt|3 min.|Bonus time is added with each successful ring.}} ||3||5||7||10||| Ring the bell at the top of Celestial Tower! Ring it <number> times to clear the mission! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Path to an Ace! || 5 min. ||3||6||12||50||| Be a training partner for Ace Trainers! Defeat <number> or more Ace Trainers within the time limit! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Shocking Shopping! || 3 min. ||4||8||32||100||| Speak to men wearing black, and buy rare items! Every time you speak to them, the prices will change. Don't get swindled! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Memory Training! || 3 min. ||6||10||12||50||| Speak to Clowns in towns and on roads, and answer quizzes! Answer questions correctly <number> times, and the mission will be a success! || {{Bag|Heart Scale}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Push the Limit of Your Memory... || 5 min. ||5||10||?||?|| Speak to Clowns in towns and on roads, and answer quizzes. The quiz will get harder and harder. Keep answering questions correctly! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Find Rustling Grass! || 10 min. ||5||10||20||100||| Find Pokémon in rustling grass and dust clouds. ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Find Shards! || 3 min. ||3||16||32||100||| Collect <number> or more shards within the time limit! Look for shining places in towns and on roads! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Forgotten{{sup/5|B2}}/Not-Found{{sup/5|W2}} Lost Items || 2 min. ||5||10||50||100||| Collect <number> or more lost items within the time limit. Many can be found in towns and roads! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Mulch Collector! || 3 min. ||6||12||24||9||| Collect <number> or more Mulches within the time limit! Look for shining places in caves and forests! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| What is the Best{{sup/5|B2}}/Real{{sup/5|W2}} Price?|| 3 min. ||6||12||?||50|||Speak to men wearing black, and buy rare items! Every time you speak to them, the prices will change. Don't get swindled! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Fishing Competition! || 3 min. ||5||10||15||30|||Use the Super Rod to catch Pokémon! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Give Me the Item! || 5 min. ||10||15||20||40||| Find <number> or more Youngsters who lost their items and are in trouble. Help them within the time limit! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Search Hidden Grottoes || 10 min. ||1||3||?||3||| Visit [[Hidden Grotto]]es in different areas, and find Pokémon! Find <number> or more Pokémon to accomplish the mission! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Where are Fluttering Hearts? || 5 min. ||10||20||?||100||| Collect <number> or more items in towns and on roads! Look for shining places! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Take a Walk with Eggs! || 10 min. ||3||12||?||100||| Hatch Pokémon Eggs! Walk a lot! Run a lot, too! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| The Berry-Hunting Adventure! || 3 min. ||5||20||?||100||| Go to many different places to look for Berries! Look for shining places in forests and caves! ||
|-
| style="background: #ddf; {{roundybl|5px}}" | Find Steelix!
| style="background: #ddf" | 5 min.
| style="background: #ddf" | 1
| style="background: #ddf" | 5
| style="background: #ddf" | 15
| style="background: #ddf" | 30
| style="background: #ddf" | Find Steelix! Try to find dust clouds in caves!
| style="background: #ddf; {{roundybr|5px}}" |
|}

==Detailed Information==
===The First Berry Search!===
The player's first mission will be to find 5 [[Berry|Berries]] within 3 minutes. As with all missions collecting Berries, cities and routes have places that glow which will allow the player to obtain a Berry when stepped on. The 5 Berries that can be found are:
*[[Oran Berry]]
*[[Rawst Berry]]
*[[Pecha Berry]]
*[[Chesto Berry]]
*[[Cheri Berry]]
This mission is only available the first time Funfest Missions are activated and will be no longer available afterward.

===Collect Berries!===
This mission is unlocked after completing "The First Berry Search!". During the mission, glowing spots appear in cities and on routes which yield Berries when stepped on. The 5 Berries that can be found in this mission are:
*[[Oran Berry]]
*[[Rawst Berry]]
*[[Pecha Berry]]
*[[Chesto Berry]]
*[[Cheri Berry]]

===Find Lost Items!===
This mission is unlocked after completing "Collect Berries!". During the mission, glowing spots appear in towns and on roads which yield items when stepped on. The 6 items that can be found in this mission are:
*[[Poké Ball]]
*[[Antidote]]
*[[Fresh Water]]
*[[Paralyz Heal]]
*[[Escape Rope]]
*[[Big Pearl]]

===Find Lost Boys===
During this mission, small boys appear in towns and on routes. If the player talks to a boy, the player will show them his [[Town Map]] and the boy will thank the player and leave.

===Enjoy Shopping!===
During this mission, Poké Mart clerks appear in towns and on roads. If the player talks to a clerk, they can purchase a specific item at a lower price. The 11 items that can be purchased in this manner are:

{| class="roundy sortable" align="left" style="border: 3px solid #0066FF; background: #66BBFF;"
|-
!
! Item
! Original Price
! Bargain Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Antidote}}
| {{DL|Status condition healing item|Antidote}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}100
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}50
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Awakening}}
| {{DL|Status condition healing item|Awakening}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}250
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}125
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Burn Heal}}
| {{DL|Status condition healing item|Burn Heal}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}250
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}125
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Greet Mail}}
| {{DL|Mail|Greet Mail}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}50
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}25
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Luxury Ball}}
| {{ball|Luxury}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}1000
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Paralyze Heal}}
| {{DL|Status condition healing item|Paralyze Heal|Parlyz Heal}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}200
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}100
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Potion}}
| {{DL|Potion|Potion}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}300
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}150
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Premier Ball}}
| {{ball|Premier}}
| align="center" | ---
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Repel}}
| {{DL|Repel|Repel}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}350
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}175
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| | {{Bag|Revive}}
| {{DL|Revive|Revive}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}1200
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}600
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Super Potion}}
| style="{{roundybl|5px}}" | {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}700
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" align="center" | {{PDollar}}350
|}{{-}}

===Search for <number> Pokémon===
This mission tasks the player with catching or defeating Pokémon found in rustling grass or dust clouds (fleeing from Pokémon does not count toward the tally). Each time a player catches or defeats a Pokémon found in this manner, a time bonus is added to the timer. When the requisite number of Pokémon have been caught or defeated, the mission ends.

===Train with Martial Artists! / Sparring with <number> Trainers!===
During this mission, Black Belts appear in towns, on roads, and in caves. They will only battle the player if talked to. Their Pokémon start at level {{tt|15|13 in Easy Mode, 17 in Challenge Mode}} and increase by one with each additional Trainer encountered. The base pay for each Trainer is {{PDollar}}32. In the mission Sparring with <number> Trainers, a time bonus is added to the timer each time the player defeats one of the Black Belts, and the mission ends when the requisite number of trainers has been defeated.

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===Path to an Ace!===
During this mission, Ace Trainers appear in towns, on roads, and in caves. They will only battle the player if talked to. Their Pokémon start at level {{tt|40|39 in Easy Mode, 43 in Challenge Mode}} and increase by one with each additional Trainer encountered. The base pay for each Trainer is {{PDollar}}60.

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===Big Harvest of Berries!===
During this mission, glowing spots appear in forests and on roads which yield Berries when stepped on. The 6 Berries that can be found in this mission are:
*[[Oran Berry]]
*[[Lum Berry]]
*[[Aspear Berry]]
*[[Sitrus Berry]]
*[[Persim Berry]]
*[[Leppa Berry]]

{{stub|Game}}

Funfest Mission

2016-03-26T19:27:53Z

AndyPKMN: /* Detailed Information */ Adding info, clarifying info, fixing up grammar, etc.

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'''Funfest Missions''' are a feature of {{game|Black and White|s|Pokémon Black 2 and White 2|2}} which were introduced in place of {{DL|Entralink|Entralink Missions}} which were available in {{g|Black and White}}. To activate a Funfest Mission, the player must warp to [[Entralink]] and activate a mission from the [[Entree]]. Once activated, the player will be warped back to their previous location and the mission will begin. Funfest Missions can be activated anywhere in Unova, and unlike Entralink Missions, they can be played either alone or with up to 100 others.

Upon the successful completion of a mission, the player will be rewarded with {{DL|Entralink|Pass Orbs}} or alternative items depending on the mission, and growth of the player's own Entree. The growth of the player's Entree depends on the version of the player's game: if the player completed a mission on Pokémon Black 2, the ★Black level of the player would increase by 1. Similarly, if a ''visiting'' player successfully completes a mission, growth of the visiting player's Entree depends on the version of the player he or she visited.

Further levels can be unlocked by successfully completing the lower level missions.

==List of Funfest Missions==
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #a0a0c4; border: 3px solid #bbbbe8"
|-
! style="background: #ccf; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Funfest Missions
! style="background: #ccf" | Time limit
! style="background: #ccf" | Lv. 1 Target
! style="background: #ccf" | Lv. 2 Target
! style="background: #ccf" | Lv. 3 Target
! style="background: #ccf" | {{tt|Lv. 4|Accessed by pressing Select, down 3 times, up 4 times, then Select in order}} Target
! style="background: #ccf" | Description
! style="background: #ccf; {{roundytr}}" | Prizes
|- style="background: #ddf"
| The First Berry Search! || 3 min. ||5||||||||| Collect 5 or more Berries within the time limit! Look for shining places in towns and on roads! ||{{Bag|Pass Orb}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Collect Berries! || 3 min. ||3||6||12||25||| Collect <number> or more Berries within the time limit! Look for shining places in towns and on roads! || {{Bag|Pass Orb}}
|- style="background: #def"
| Find Lost Items! || 5 min. ||10||15||20||40||| Collect <number> or more lost items within the time limit. Many can be found in towns and on roads! || {{Bag|Pass Orb}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Find Lost Boys! || 3 min. ||4||8||16||50||| Find <number> or more lost children within the time limit! Speak to boys in towns and on roads! || {{Bag|Pass Orb}}
|- style="background: #def"
| Enjoy Shopping! || 3 min. ||3||6||12||25||| Enjoy bargain shopping! Speak to shop clerks in towns and on roads, and shop <number> or more times! || {{Bag|Pass Orb}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Find Audino! || 5 min. ||1||5||10||50||| Find Audino in rustling grass! Defeat or catch <number> or more Pokémon to accomplish the mission! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Search for <number> Pokémon! || 3 min. ||3||5||10||50||| Find Pokémon in rustling grass and dust clouds. Find <number> Pokémon to clear the mission! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Train with Martial Artists! || 5 min. ||2||4||8||100||| Fight with novice martial artists, and help with their training! Defeat <number> or more martial artists within the time limit! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Sparring with <number> Trainers! || {{tt|3 min.|Bonus time is added after each Trainer defeated.}} ||10||30||50||100||| Fight with novice martial artists, and help with their training! Defeat <number> or more martial artists! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Get Rich Quick!{{sup/5|B2}} || 3 min. ||3||6||12||25||| Collect <number> or more treasures within the time limit! Look for shining places in caves and forests! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Treasure Hunting!{{sup/5|W2}} || 3 min. ||3||12||24||45||| Collect <number> or more treasures within the time limit! Look for shining places in caves and forests! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Exciting Trading!!{{sup/5|B2}} || 5 min. ||2||4||8||50||| Trade items with <number> or more people! Speak to Backpackers who travel all over the world!||
|- style="background: #def"
| Exhilarating Trading!!{{sup/5|W2}} || 5 min. ||2||4||8||50||| Trade items with <number> or more people! Speak to Backpackers who travel all over the world!||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Find Emolga! || 5 min. ||1||5||10||30||| Find Emolga in rustling grass! The Pokémon are said to be found on Route 5. Take advantage of their Abilities. ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Wings Falling on the Drawbridge || 3 min. ||5||10||40||100||| Pick up and collect [[Wing|wings]] at Driftveil Drawbridge! When you hear Pokémon fluttering their wings, check nearby areas! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Find Treasures! || 3 min. ||5||10||20||100||| Find treasures, which can be found in caves in different areas! Look for dust clouds! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Mushrooms' Hide-and-Seek! || 5 min. ||3||10||30||5||| Find Foongus hiding in tall grass! They look like Poké Balls! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Find Mysterious{{sup/5|B2}}/Shining{{sup/5|W2}} Ores! || 5 min. ||10||20||30||30||| Find mysterious ores! Search caves and roads, and collect <number> or more items! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| The <number> Lost Treasures || 5 min. ||2||4||10||30||| Find the lost relic treasures! Of course, they won't be found so easily... ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Big Harvest of Berries! || 3 min. ||6||12||24||100||| Collect <number> or more Berries within the time limit! It is said that a lot of them can be found in forests and on roads! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Ring the Bell... || 3 min. ||1||2||8||10||| Ring the bell at the top of Celestial Tower! Start all over from the entrance to do it multiple times! || {{Bag|Pass Orb}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
| The Bell that Rings <number> Times || {{tt|3 min.|Bonus time is added with each successful ring.}} ||3||5||7||10||| Ring the bell at the top of Celestial Tower! Ring it <number> times to clear the mission! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Path to an Ace! || 5 min. ||3||6||12||50||| Be a training partner for Ace Trainers! Defeat <number> or more Ace Trainers within the time limit! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Shocking Shopping! || 3 min. ||4||8||32||100||| Speak to men wearing black, and buy rare items! Every time you speak to them, the prices will change. Don't get swindled! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Memory Training! || 3 min. ||6||10||12||50||| Speak to Clowns in towns and on roads, and answer quizzes! Answer questions correctly <number> times, and the mission will be a success! || {{Bag|Heart Scale}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Push the Limit of Your Memory... || 5 min. ||5||10||?||?|| Speak to Clowns in towns and on roads, and answer quizzes. The quiz will get harder and harder. Keep answering questions correctly! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Find Rustling Grass! || 10 min. ||5||10||20||100||| Find Pokémon in rustling grass and dust clouds. ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Find Shards! || 3 min. ||3||16||32||100||| Collect <number> or more shards within the time limit! Look for shining places in towns and on roads! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Forgotten{{sup/5|B2}}/Not-Found{{sup/5|W2}} Lost Items || 2 min. ||5||10||50||100||| Collect <number> or more lost items within the time limit. Many can be found in towns and roads! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Mulch Collector! || 3 min. ||6||12||24||9||| Collect <number> or more Mulches within the time limit! Look for shining places in caves and forests! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| What is the Best{{sup/5|B2}}/Real{{sup/5|W2}} Price?|| 3 min. ||6||12||?||50|||Speak to men wearing black, and buy rare items! Every time you speak to them, the prices will change. Don't get swindled! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Fishing Competition! || 3 min. ||5||10||15||30|||Use the Super Rod to catch Pokémon! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Give Me the Item! || 5 min. ||10||15||20||40||| Find <number> or more Youngsters who lost their items and are in trouble. Help them within the time limit! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Search Hidden Grottoes || 10 min. ||1||3||?||3||| Visit [[Hidden Grotto]]es in different areas, and find Pokémon! Find <number> or more Pokémon to accomplish the mission! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Where are Fluttering Hearts? || 5 min. ||10||20||?||100||| Collect <number> or more items in towns and on roads! Look for shining places! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Take a Walk with Eggs! || 10 min. ||3||12||?||100||| Hatch Pokémon Eggs! Walk a lot! Run a lot, too! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| The Berry-Hunting Adventure! || 3 min. ||5||20||?||100||| Go to many different places to look for Berries! Look for shining places in forests and caves! ||
|-
| style="background: #ddf; {{roundybl|5px}}" | Find Steelix!
| style="background: #ddf" | 5 min.
| style="background: #ddf" | 1
| style="background: #ddf" | 5
| style="background: #ddf" | 15
| style="background: #ddf" | 30
| style="background: #ddf" | Find Steelix! Try to find dust clouds in caves!
| style="background: #ddf; {{roundybr|5px}}" |
|}

==Detailed Information==
===The First Berry Search!===
The player's first mission will be to find 5 [[Berry|Berries]] within 3 minutes. As with all missions collecting Berries, cities and routes have places that glow which will allow the player to obtain a Berry when stepped on. The 5 Berries that can be found are:
*[[Oran Berry]]
*[[Rawst Berry]]
*[[Pecha Berry]]
*[[Chesto Berry]]
*[[Cheri Berry]]
This mission is only available the first time Funfest Missions are activated and will be no longer available afterward.

===Collect Berries!===
This mission is unlocked after completing "The First Berry Search!". During the mission, glowing spots appear in cities and on routes which yield Berries when stepped on. The 5 Berries that can be found in this mission are:
*[[Oran Berry]]
*[[Rawst Berry]]
*[[Pecha Berry]]
*[[Chesto Berry]]
*[[Cheri Berry]]

===Find Lost Items!===
This mission is unlocked after completing "Collect Berries!". During the mission, glowing spots appear in towns and on roads which yield items when stepped on. The 6 items that can be found in this mission are:
*[[Poké Ball]]
*[[Antidote]]
*[[Fresh Water]]
*[[Paralyz Heal]]
*[[Escape Rope]]
*[[Big Pearl]]

===Find Lost Boys===
During this mission, small boys appear in towns and on routes. If the player talks to a boy, the player will show them his [[Town Map]] and the boy will thank the player and leave.

===Enjoy Shopping!===
During this mission, Poké Mart clerks appear in towns and on roads. If the player talks to a clerk, they can purchase a specific item at a lower price. The 11 items that can be purchased in this manner are:

{| class="roundy sortable" align="left" style="border: 3px solid #0066FF; background: #66BBFF;"
|-
!
! Item
! Original Price
! Bargain Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Antidote}}
| {{DL|Status condition healing item|Antidote}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}100
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}50
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Awakening}}
| {{DL|Status condition healing item|Awakening}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}250
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}125
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Burn Heal}}
| {{DL|Status condition healing item|Burn Heal}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}250
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}125
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Greet Mail}}
| {{DL|Mail|Greet Mail}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}50
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}25
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Luxury Ball}}
| {{ball|Luxury}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}1000
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Paralyze Heal}}
| {{DL|Status condition healing item|Paralyze Heal|Parlyz Heal}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}200
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}100
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Potion}}
| {{DL|Potion|Potion}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}300
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}150
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Premier Ball}}
| {{ball|Premier}}
| align="center" | ---
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Repel}}
| {{DL|Repel|Repel}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}350
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}175
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| | {{Bag|Revive}}
| {{DL|Revive|Revive}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}1200
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}600
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Super Potion}}
| style="{{roundybl|5px}}" | {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}700
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" align="center" | {{PDollar}}350
|}{{-}}

===Train with Martial Artists! / Sparring with 10 Trainers!===
During this mission, Black Belts appear in towns, on roads, and in caves. They will only battle the player if talked to. Their Pokémon start at level {{tt|15|13 in Easy Mode, 17 in Challenge Mode}} and increase by one with each additional Trainer encountered. The base pay for each Trainer is {{PDollar}}32.

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===Path to an Ace!===
During this mission, Ace Trainers appear in towns, on roads, and in caves. They will only battle the player if talked to. Their Pokémon start at level {{tt|40|39 in Easy Mode, 43 in Challenge Mode}} and increase by one with each additional Trainer encountered. The base pay for each Trainer is {{PDollar}}60.

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{{Trainerfooter|land|V}}

===Big Harvest of Berries!===
During this mission, glowing spots appear in forests and on roads which yield Berries when stepped on. The 6 Berries that can be found in this mission are:
*[[Oran Berry]]
*[[Lum Berry]]
*[[Aspear Berry]]
*[[Sitrus Berry]]
*[[Persim Berry]]
*[[Leppa Berry]]

{{stub|Game}}

Funfest Mission

2016-03-20T19:24:43Z

AndyPKMN: Adding description for "Exciting Trading!"

{{cleanup}}
{{incomplete|needs=Prizes for Missions, details on Missions}}
'''Funfest Missions''' are a feature of {{game|Black and White|s|Pokémon Black 2 and White 2|2}} which were introduced in place of {{DL|Entralink|Entralink Missions}} which were available in {{g|Black and White}}. To activate a Funfest Mission, the player must warp to [[Entralink]] and activate a mission from the [[Entree]]. Once activated, the player will be warped back to their previous location and the mission will begin. Funfest Missions can be activated anywhere in Unova, and unlike Entralink Missions, they can be played either alone or with up to 100 others.

Upon the successful completion of a mission, the player will be rewarded with {{DL|Entralink|Pass Orbs}} or alternative items depending on the mission, and growth of the player's own Entree. The growth of the player's Entree depends on the version of the player's game: if the player completed a mission on Pokémon Black, the ★Black level of the player would increase by 1. Similarly, if a ''visiting'' player successfully completes a mission, growth of the visiting player's Entree depends on the version of the player he or she visited.

Further levels can be unlocked by successfully completing the lower level missions.

==List of Funfest Missions==
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #a0a0c4; border: 3px solid #bbbbe8"
|-
! style="background: #ccf; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Funfest Missions
! style="background: #ccf" | Time limit
! style="background: #ccf" | Lv. 1 Target
! style="background: #ccf" | Lv. 2 Target
! style="background: #ccf" | Lv. 3 Target
! style="background: #ccf" | {{tt|Lv. 4|Accessed by pressing Select, down 3 times, up 4 times, then Select in order}} Target
! style="background: #ccf" | Description
! style="background: #ccf; {{roundytr}}" | Prizes
|- style="background: #ddf"
| The First Berry Search! || 3 min. ||5||||||||| Collect 5 or more Berries within the time limit! Look for shining places in towns and on roads! ||{{Bag|Pass Orb}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Collect Berries! || 3 min. ||3||6||12||25||| Collect <number> or more Berries within the time limit! Look for shining places in towns and on roads! || {{Bag|Pass Orb}}
|- style="background: #def"
| Find Lost Items! || 5 min. ||10||15||20||40||| Collect <number> or more lost items within the time limit. Many can be found in towns and on roads! || {{Bag|Pass Orb}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Find Lost Boys! || 3 min. ||4||8||16||50||| Find <number> or more lost children within the time limit! Speak to boys in towns and on roads! || {{Bag|Pass Orb}}
|- style="background: #def"
| Enjoy Shopping! || 3 min. ||3||6||12||25||| Enjoy bargain shopping! Speak to shop clerks in towns and on roads, and shop <number> or more times! || {{Bag|Pass Orb}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Find Audino! || 5 min. ||1||5||10||50||| Find Audino in rustling grass! Defeat or catch <number> or more Pokémon to accomplish the mission! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Search for <number> Pokémon! || 3 min. ||3||5||10||50||| Find Pokémon in rustling grass and dust clouds. Find <number> Pokémon to clear the mission! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Train with Martial Artists! || 5 min. ||2||4||8||100||| Fight with novice martial artists, and help with their training! Defeat <number> or more martial artists within the time limit! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Sparring with <number> Trainers! || {{tt|3 min.|Bonus time is added after each Trainer defeated.}} ||10||30||50||100||| Fight with novice martial artists, and help with their training! Defeat <number> or more martial artists! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Get Rich Quick! (Black 2 only) || 3 min. ||3||6||12||25||| Collect <number> or more treasures within the time limit! Look for shining places in caves and forests! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Treasure Hunting! (White 2 only) || 3 min. ||3||12||24||45||| Collect <number> or more treasures within the time limit! Look for shining places in caves and forests! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Exciting Trading!! (Black 2 only) || 5 min. ||2||4||8||50||| Trade items with <number> or more people! Speak to Backpackers who travel all over the world!||
|- style="background: #def"
| Exhilarating Trading!! (White 2 only) || 5 min. ||2||4||8||50|||||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Find Emolga! || 5 min. ||1||5||10||30||| Find Emolga in rustling grass! The Pokémon are said to be found on Route 5. Take advantage of their Abilities. ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Wings Falling on the Drawbridge || 3 min. ||5||10||40||100||| Pick up and collect [[Wing|wings]] at Driftveil Drawbridge! When you hear Pokémon fluttering their wings, check nearby areas! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Find Treasures! || 3 min. ||5||10||20||100||| Find treasures, which can be found in caves in different areas! Look for dust clouds! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Mushrooms' Hide-and-Seek! || 5 min. ||3||10||30||5||| Find Foongus hiding in tall grass! They look like Poké Balls! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Find Mysterious (Black 2)/Shining (White 2) Ores! || 5 min. ||10||20||30||30||| Find mysterious ores! Search caves and roads, and collect <number> or more items! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| The <number> Lost Treasures || 5 min. ||2||4||10||30||| Find the lost relic treasures! Of course, they won't be found so easily... ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Big Harvest of Berries! || 3 min. ||6||12||24||100||| Collect <number> or more Berries within the time limit! It is said that a lot of them can be found in forests and on roads! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Ring the Bell... || 3 min. ||1||2||8||10||| Ring the bell at the top of Celestial Tower! Start all over from the entrance to do it multiple times! || {{Bag|Pass Orb}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
| The Bell that Rings <number> Times || 3 min. ||3||5||7||10||| Ring the bell at the top of Celestial Tower! Ring it <number> times to clear the mission! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Path to an Ace! || 5 min. ||3||6||12||50||| Be a training partner for Ace Trainers! Defeat <number> or more Ace Trainers within the time limit! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Shocking Shopping! || 3 min. ||4||8||32||100||| Speak to men wearing black, and buy rare items! Every time you speak to them, the prices will change. Don't get swindled! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Memory Training! || 3 min. ||6||10||12||50||| Speak to Clowns in towns and on roads, and answer quizzes! Answer questions correctly <number> times, and the mission will be a success! || {{Bag|Heart Scale}}
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Push the Limit of Your Memory... || 5 min. ||5||?||?||?|| Speak to Clowns in towns and on roads, and answer quizzes. The quiz will get harder and harder. Keep answering questions correctly! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Find Rustling Grass! || 10 min. ||5||10||20||100||| Find Pokémon in rustling grass and dust clouds. ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Find Shards! || 3 min. ||3||16||32||100||| Collect <number> or more shards within the time limit! Look for shining places in towns and on roads! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Forgotten (Black 2)/Not-Found (White 2) Lost Items || 2 min. ||5||10||50||100||| Collect <number> or more lost items within the time limit. Many can be found in towns and roads! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Mulch Collector! || 3 min. ||6||12||24||9||| Collect <number> or more Mulches within the time limit! Look for shining places in caves and forests! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| What is the Best (Black 2)/Real (White 2) Price?|| 3 min. ||6||12||?||50|||Speak to men wearing black, and buy rare items! Every time you speak to them, the prices will change. Don't get swindled! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Fishing Competition! || 3 min. ||5||10||15||30|||Use the Super Rod to catch Pokémon! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Give Me the Item! || 5 min. ||10||15||20||40||| Find <number> or more Youngsters who lost their items and are in trouble. Help them within the time limit! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Search Hidden Grottoes || 10 min. ||1||3||?||3||| Visit [[Hidden Grotto|Hidden Grottoes]] in different areas, and find Pokémon! Find <number> or more Pokémon to accomplish the mission! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| Where are Fluttering Hearts? || 5 min. ||10||20||?||100||| Collect <number> or more items in towns and on roads! Look for shining places! ||
|- style="background: #ddf"
| Take a Walk with Eggs! || 10 min. ||3||12||?||100||| Hatch Pokémon Eggs! Walk a lot! Run a lot, too! ||
|- style="background: #def"
| The Berry-Hunting Adventure! || 3 min. ||5||20||?||100||| Go to many different places to look for Berries! Look for shining places in forests and caves! ||
|-
| style="background: #ddf; {{roundybl|5px}}" | Find Steelix!
| style="background: #ddf" | 5 min.
| style="background: #ddf" | 1
| style="background: #ddf" | 5
| style="background: #ddf" | 15
| style="background: #ddf" | 30
| style="background: #ddf" | Find Steelix! Try to find dust clouds in caves!
| style="background: #ddf; {{roundybr|5px}}" |
|}

==Detailed Information==
===The First Berry Search!===
The player's first mission will be to find 5 [[Berry|Berries]] within 3 minutes. As with all missions collecting Berries, cities and routes have places that glow which will allow the player to obtain a Berry when stepped on. The 5 Berries that can be found are:
*[[Oran Berry]]
*[[Rawst Berry]]
*[[Pecha Berry]]
*[[Chesto Berry]]
*[[Cheri Berry]]
This mission is only available the first time Funfest Missions are activated and will be no longer available afterward.

===Collect Berries!===
This mission is unlocked after completing The First Berry Search!. As with all missions collecting Berries, cities and routes have places that glow which will allow the player to obtain a Berry when stepped on. The 5 Berries that can be found are:
*[[Oran Berry]]
*[[Rawst Berry]]
*[[Pecha Berry]]
*[[Chesto Berry]]
*[[Cheri Berry]]

===Find Lost Items!===
*[[Poké Ball]]
*[[Antidote]]
*[[Fresh Water]]
*[[Paralyz Heal]]
*[[Escape Rope]]
*[[Big Pearl]]

===Find Lost Boys===
This mission requires the player to find small boys who wandering around in towns and on routes. If the player talks to them, the player will show the boy his [[Town Map]] and the boy will thank the player and leave.

===Enjoy Shopping!===
In this mission, players have to find Poké Mart clerks and purchase their items at lower prices.

{| class="roundy sortable" align="left" style="border: 3px solid #0066FF; background: #66BBFF;"
|-
!
! Item
! Original Price
! Bargain Price
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Antidote}}
| {{DL|Status condition healing item|Antidote}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}100
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}50
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Awakening}}
| {{DL|Status condition healing item|Awakening}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}250
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}125
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Burn Heal}}
| {{DL|Status condition healing item|Burn Heal}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}250
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}125
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Greet Mail}}
| {{DL|Mail|Greet Mail}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}50
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}25
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Luxury Ball}}
| {{ball|Luxury}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}1000
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}400
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Paralyze Heal}}
| {{DL|Status condition healing item|Paralyze Heal|Parlyz Heal}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}200
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}100
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Potion}}
| {{DL|Potion|Potion}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}300
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}150
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Premier Ball}}
| {{ball|Premier}}
| align="center" | ---
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}500
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Repel}}
| {{DL|Repel|Repel}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}350
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}175
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| | {{Bag|Revive}}
| {{DL|Revive|Revive}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}1200
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}600
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| {{Bag|Super Potion}}
| style="{{roundybl|5px}}" | {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}
| align="center" | {{PDollar}}700
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" align="center" | {{PDollar}}350
|}{{-}}

===Train with Martial Artists! / Sparring with 10 Trainers!===
Pokémon levels start at level {{tt|15|13 in Easy Mode, 17 in Challenge Mode}} and increase by one with each additional Trainer encountered. Base pay is {{PDollar}}32.

{{Trainerheader|fighting}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Black Belt.png|Black Belt|Mathis|32*level|1|532|Timburr|♂|{{tt|15+|13+ in Easy Mode, 17+ in Challenge Mode}}|None|36=?|37=?}}
{{Trainerdiv|fighting}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Black Belt.png|Black Belt|Donny|32*level|1|559|Scraggy|♂|{{tt|15+|13+ in Easy Mode, 17+ in Challenge Mode}}|None|36=?|37=?}}
{{Trainerdiv|fighting}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Black Belt.png|Black Belt|Grigor|32*level|1|447|Riolu|♂|{{tt|15+|13+ in Easy Mode, 17+ in Challenge Mode}}|None|36=?|37=?}}
{{Trainerdiv|fighting}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Black Belt.png|Black Belt|Andrew|32*level|1|532|Timburr|♂|{{tt|15+|13+ in Easy Mode, 17+ in Challenge Mode}}|None|36=?|37=?}}
{{Trainerdiv|fighting}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Black Belt.png|Black Belt|Gordon|32*level|1|559|Scraggy|♂|{{tt|15+|13+ in Easy Mode, 17+ in Challenge Mode}}|None|36=?|37=?}}
{{Trainerdiv|fighting}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Black Belt.png|Black Belt|Rodrigo|32*level|1|447|Riolu|♂|{{tt|15+|13+ in Easy Mode, 17+ in Challenge Mode}}|None|36=?|37=?}}
{{Trainerfooter|fighting|V}}

===Path to an Ace!===
Pokémon levels start at level {{tt|40|39 in Easy Mode, 43 in Challenge Mode}} and increase by one with each additional Trainer encountered. Base pay is {{PDollar}}60.

{{Trainerheader|land}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Ace Trainer F.png|Ace Trainer|Layla|60*level|1|563|Cofagrigus|♀|{{tt|40+|39+ in Easy Mode, 43+ in Challenge Mode}}|None|36=?|37=?}}
{{Trainerdiv|land}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Ace Trainer F.png|Ace Trainer|Trish|60*level|1|581|Swanna|♀|{{tt|40+|39+ in Easy Mode, 43+ in Challenge Mode}}|None|36=?|37=?}}
{{Trainerdiv|land}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Ace Trainer F.png|Ace Trainer|Jacqueline|60*level|1|530|Excadrill|♀|{{tt|40+|39+ in Easy Mode, 43+ in Challenge Mode}}|None|36=?|37=?}}
{{Trainerdiv|land}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Ace Trainer F.png|Ace Trainer|Eve|60*level|1|586|Sawsbuck|♀|{{tt|40+|39+ in Easy Mode, 43+ in Challenge Mode}}|None|36=?|37=?}}
{{Trainerdiv|land}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Ace Trainer F.png|Ace Trainer|Nina|60*level|1|596|Galvantula|♀|{{tt|40+|39+ in Easy Mode, 43+ in Challenge Mode}}|None|36=?|37=?}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Ace Trainer F.png|Ace Trainer|Natasha|60*level|1|614|Beartic|♀|{{tt|40+|39+ in Easy Mode, 43+ in Challenge Mode}}|None|36=?|37=?}}

{{Trainerfooter|land|V}}

===Big Harvest of Berries!===
As with all missions collecting Berries, cities and routes have places that glow which will allow the player to obtain a Berry when stepped on. The Berries that can be found are:
*[[Oran Berry]]
*[[Lum Berry]]
*[[Aspear Berry]]
*[[Sitrus Berry]]
*[[Persim Berry]]
*[[Leppa Berry]]

{{stub|Game}}

Pokémon Black and White beta

2016-03-12T21:18:47Z

AndyPKMN: /* Post-release */ This links to the key items page, when it should link to the unobtainable items page.

Like previous major releases, especially those that set a new [[generation]], {{game|Black and White|s}} went through multiple development stages, many of which included several elements that were eventually dropped or revised before the games' release. Some of these components can still be found within their internal data.

==Pre-release==
===Starters===
[[File:Beta Tepig sprite.png|right|thumb|The prototype {{pkmn2|starter}} selection screen.]]
The sprite used in the {{pkmn2|starter}} selection screen for {{p|Tepig}} is different in some early videos. The prototype sprite has a more triangular hind foot, with only one being visible on the sprite, and slightly different shading. Also, the silhouettes of the unselected starters are lighter compared to the final.
{{-}}
===VS Sprites===
Early VS sprites for {{ga|Hilbert}} and [[Cheren]] can be seen in an early video which was broadcasted on ''[[Pokémon Sunday]]''. Whilst Cheren's VS sprite had a minor alteration with where his eyes are looking, Hilbert's sprite received a complete overhaul. An early VS sprite for [[Bianca]], lacking her [[Xtransceiver]], was shown in the early video footage that came with an issue of ''Dengeki Nintendo DS''.

In {{p|Excadrill}}'s first appearance in a promotional video, its stripes were mirrored. However, this was not long-lived, as it was changed to its current appearance in the next video.

<gallery>
File:Beta Hilbert VS sprite.png|{{ga|Hilbert}}'s prototype VS sprite
File:Beta Cheren VS sprite.png|[[Cheren]]'s prototype VS sprite
File:Beta Bianca VS sprite.png|[[Bianca]]'s prototype VS sprite
File:BW Prerelease double battle.png|{{p|Excadrill}}'s prototype front sprite
</gallery>

===Music===
In some early footage of {{rt|4|Unova}}, ''[[Pokémon Black & Pokémon White: Super Music Collection|The Dreamyard]]'' can be heard playing instead of the correspondent seasonal variant of ''[[Pokémon Black & Pokémon White: Super Music Collection|Route 4]]''.

===Region name===
Some {{wp|Retail|retailers}} in {{pmin|the United Kingdom}} (specifically {{wp|Game (retailer)|GAME}} and {{wp|Gamestation}}) used pre-release box art using the name '''Alleos''' for the region as opposed to its final English name, [[Unova]]. This name was also used at pre-release and post-release demo events in the United Kingdom.

===Locations===
====Castelia City====
In several pre-release screenshots and video footage, [[Castelia City]]'s texture is noticeably different from the final version, with at least four different variations seen before the final release.

<gallery>
File:BW Prerelease City.png|Image released on April 15, 2010
File:Black White City.png|Animated view presented by ''[[Pokémon Sunday]]'' on April 18, 2010
File:BW Prerelease Castelia City 2.png|Footage from the June 27, 2010 trailer that was broadcasted on ''[[Oha Suta]]''
File:BW Prerelease Castelia City 3.png|Image from a Pokemon.co.jp video
File:BW Prerelease Castelia City.png|Image released on May 14, 2010
File:BW Prerelease Castelia City 6.png|Another image from a Pokemon.co.jp video
</gallery>

====Chargestone Cave====
Pre-release screenshots of [[Chargestone Cave]] show rocks lying around the cave to be of a different shape and having a darker tone with less glow compared to the final version.

====Skyarrow Bridge====
On an early screenshot of within [[Skyarrow Bridge]], a female {{tc|Backpacker}} can be seen. This Backpacker was replaced by an {{tc|Ace Trainer}} in the final release. However, in [[Pokémon Black and White Versions 2|Pokémon Black 2 and White 2]], exactly the same spot is occupied by a Backpacker, just like in the screenshot. In addition, two pre-release screeshots of Skyarrow Bridge depict a slightly different skyline of [[Castelia City]].

<gallery>
File:BW Prerelease Bridge lookout.png|Early image of [[Skyarrow Bridge]]
File:BW Prerelease Bridge.png|Second early image of [[Skyarrow Bridge]]
</gallery>

====Pokémon Center====
[[File:BW Prerelease Poke Mart.png|right|thumb|The prototype [[Pokémon Center]] shopping item list screen.]]
When buying items at a [[Pokémon Center]], the part of the screen where the {{player}} can be seen is rotated.

===Dream World===
On early videos of [[Dream World]] a Pikachu could be seen being encountered on the game and also later on [[Entree Forest]] indicating that it was befriended. On the final versions Pikachu can't be encounter in any locations of Dream Wolrd and the only way to catch one is transfering via the [[Poké Transfer]].
{{-}}

==Post-release==
===Items===
Since the engine that powers the games is improved upon that of the [[Generation IV]] games, all items from Generation IV, including [[Poké Ball]]s, [[key item]]s and {{DL|List of unobtainable items|unused items}}, are present in the internal data, with the exception of [[HM07]] and [[HM08]], which are now blank space "?" items. However, most of these items are unobtainable. Other leftover items, like the [[List_of_unobtainable_items#God_Stone|God Stone]], are specific to {{game|Black and White|s}} and can be likewise obtained through modification of the saved game or cheating.

===Locations===
====P2 Laboratory====
{{incomplete|section|More information needed}}
If the {{player}} uses the "walk through walls" cheat, enters the [[P2 Laboratory]] and keeps walking down, there will be an untextured room with a few tables in it.
{{youtubevid|TA39fmu0Cc4|JuiicyJake|black|white}}

===Unused text===
Several lines of unused weather effect text appear within the internal data of {{4v|Black|White|2}}. Notably, quotes for {{weather|fog}} exist within the text, implying that fog functionality was planned to exist in Black and White. While the final game does include foggy locations, such as {{rt|15|Unova}}, the fog weather condition does not appear in battles.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{water color dark}}; border: 3px solid #{{water color}}"
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundytop|5px}}" | Fog crept up as thick as soup!
|- style="background:#fff"
| The fog lifted.
|- style="background:#fff"
| The sandstorm rages.
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | The hail crashes down.
|}

{{beta|black|white}} 
{{Project Games notice}}

[[de:Pokémon Schwarz und Weiß (Vorabversion)]]
[[it:Pokémon Nero e Bianco beta]]

User:AndyPKMN/Sandbox

2016-03-12T15:53:50Z

AndyPKMN: Adding a few minor locations with their own pages.

Current work: Compiling a list of background music used in various locations, to eventually (hopefully!) be added to their respective pages somehow. If this violates the userspace rules, please let me know! For convenience's sake, I'll be limiting my initial list to Kalos locations.

[[Vaniville Town]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Vaniville Town]]

[[Aquacorde Town]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Aquacorde Town]]

[[Santalune City]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Santalune City]]

[[Lumiose City]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Lumiose City]]

[[Camphrier Town]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Camphrier Town]]

[[Cyllage City]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Cyllage City]]

[[Ambrette Town]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Aquacorde Town]]

[[Geosenge Town]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Geosenge Town]]

[[Shalour City]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Shalour City]]

[[Coumarine City]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Coumarine City]]

[[Laverre City]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Laverre City]]

[[Dendemille Town]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Dendemille Town]]

[[Anistar City]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Anistar City]]

[[Couriway Town]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Camphrier Town]]

[[Snowbelle City]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Snowbelle City]]

[[Pokémon League]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|The Pokémon League]]

[[Kiloude City]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Kiloude City]]

[[Kalos Route 1]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Route 1]]

[[Kalos Route 2]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Route 2]]

[[Kalos Route 3]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Route 2]]

[[Kalos Route 4]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Route 4]]

[[Kalos Route 5]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Route 4]]

[[Kalos Route 6]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Route 4]]

[[Kalos Route 7]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Route 4]]

[[Kalos Route 8]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Route 8]]

[[Kalos Route 9]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Route 8]]

[[Kalos Route 10]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Route 8]]

[[Kalos Route 11]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Route 8]]

[[Kalos Route 12]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Route 8]]

[[Kalos Route 13]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Route 8]]

[[Kalos Route 14]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Glittering Cave]]

[[Kalos Route 15]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Route 15]]

[[Kalos Route 16]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Route 15]]

[[Kalos Route 17]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Route 15]]

[[Kalos Route 18]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Route 18]]

[[Kalos Route 19]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Route 18]]

[[Kalos Route 20]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Santalune Forest]]

[[Kalos Route 21]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Route 18]]

[[Kalos Route 22]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Route 4]]

[[Santalune Forest]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Santalune Forest]]

[[Chamber of Emptiness]]: None

[[Parfum Palace]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Parfum Palace]]

[[Battle Chateau]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Battle Maison]]

[[Berry Fields]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Camphrier Town]]

[[Connecting Cave]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Glittering Cave]]

[[Glittering Cave]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Glittering Cave]]

[[Reflection Cave]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Santalune Forest]]

[[Tower of Mastery]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Tower of Mastery]]

[[Azure Bay]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Route 8]]

[[Sea Spirit's Den]]: None

[[Kalos Power Plant]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|The Kalos Power Plant]]

[[Poké Ball Factory]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|The Kalos Power Plant]]

[[Lost Hotel]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Glittering Cave]]

[[Frost Cavern]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Route 15]] (Exterior), [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Santalune Forest]] (Interior)

[[Lysandre Labs]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Lysandre Labs]]

[[Team Flare Secret HQ]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Team Flare Secret Hq]]

[[Terminus Cave]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Glittering Cave]]

[[Pokémon Village]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Pokémon Village]]

[[Victory Road]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Victory Road]]

[[Battle Maison]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Battle Maison]]

[[Friend Safari]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Friend Safari]]

[[Unknown Dungeon]]: None

[[Santalune Gym]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Pokémon Gym]]

[[Cyllage Gym]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Pokémon Gym]]

[[Shalour Gym]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Pokémon Gym]]

[[Coumarine Gym]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Pokémon Gym]]

[[Lumiose Gym]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Pokémon Gym]]

[[Laverre Gym]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Pokémon Gym]]

[[Anistar Gym]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Pokémon Gym]]

[[Snowbelle Gym]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Pokémon Gym]]

[[Hotel Richissime]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Hotel Richissime]]

[[Lumiose Museum]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Hotel Richissime]]

[[Juice Shoppe]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Shopping]]

[[Shabboneau Castle]]: [[Pokémon_X_%26_Pokémon_Y:_Super_Music_Collection|Camphrier Town]]

User:AndyPKMN/Sandbox

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AndyPKMN: Current work: Compiling a list of background music used in various locations, to eventually (hopefully!) be added to their respective pages somehow.

User talk:AndyPKMN

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AndyPKMN: /* Your "Adding Music to Other Pages" suggestion. */

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== Talk pages ==

There's no need to respond to any comments that are 6 months or older. Please check the timestamp of the comment you want to respond to before actually hitting the "edit" button.--'''Toxic''' [[Mask of Ice|'''ICE''']] (User:Cold)([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 12:30, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

== Kimono Girl ==

Okay, so I'll bring it back. There's a chance that this was just a mistranslation of "Oneesan". But I think that we don't have a reason to think so. I'll bring the trivia back, then. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 20:46, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

== Voltorb Flip, Level 7 ==

I saw your comment. Is there any sort of congratulatory text? I have access to a text dump, but couldn't find anything in it. Additionally - I have heard rumors of a supposed level eight which you get by beating seven enough times. Do you know anything about this? Cheers, —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:32, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:Since that comment I heard about Level 8 too. I only beat 7 twice before I dropped back down, and no, there was no congratulatory text. So I can't confirm or deny the existence of a Level 8, sorry. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 13:59, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

::Well, if we could only gain the trust of someone who does tool-assisted speedruns of HeartGold/SoulSilver, we just might be able to find out exactly how high Voltorb Flip can go. We'd first have to start out with zero coins, then use the tool-assists to win every single game encountered. The upper ceiling would be the level when we hit 50,000 coins. This should, at the very least, confirm whether or not there is a level 8. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:07, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

==Wow==
I log on and plan to do [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=List_of_glitch_types&diff=1078096&oldid=1071867 this], but you did it just an hour ago. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:20, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Hey Andy ==

Sawamular101 has confirmed that the page in question does not resolve the Isshu at hand. Well, at least from one point of view. It confirms that nothing more was said regarding Isshu other than how "New York is Isshu's motif" and how "Masuda is very attached to the city".

So, until further information regarding the basis of Isshu is revealed, New York

*puts on sunglasses*

is Isshu's motif. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

xD

Sorry, I just felt the need.

But yeah, Sawamu has confirmed that the page says nothing more than that.

--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 03:45, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:That's cool. I don't know a lick of Japanese, so I was just taking it on faith and Google translate. In other news, though, didn't it mention something about Hiun Gym being based on MOMA or something? That's a pretty nifty bit of trivia. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 11:57, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::Indeed it is. But that is not part of my goals. I'll leave the trivia-adding to the people who know templates xD
::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 14:06, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

== Claw Sharpen ==

I removed it because it had a PP difference. The variation page says they have same PP among other things. It's [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig A]]! [[User talk:Turtwig A|My talk]] or [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|wiki edits]] 02:08, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
:Oh, sorry. I should have double checked. I just added it because the Claw Sharpen page had that template on it. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:33, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

== Green Pheasant is national bird of Japan. ==

There are a lot of people who know the Pokemon is from Japan. However, the people of large majority do not know that Green Pheasant is national bird of Japan.

Green Pheasant is national bird of Japan.

Why did you delete this sentence? Will you similarly delete it in the future?
[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 12:51, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Do you hate me because I helped the motif? Was my sentence deleted for the abhorred reasons?[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 13:11, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

:Sawam, I doubt he hates you because you helped the motif. He just has not responded yet because he has been busy. He may respond later today (in the USA) so give him a bit more time. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 14:09, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

:: Thank you for advice. It is agreement of the opinion of Mr. Mackinz. It seems to have been my thoughtless idea. However, the idea of national bird doesn't swing. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 14:26, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

:::Sawam, it is not a thoughtless idea. There is thought behind it. Well, my thoughts, but my thoughts were not some stupid attempt to turn everyone into thinking that there is no connection between New York and Isshu. My thoughts were to maintain the ambiguity of a neutral statement until more is known regarding the basis of the Isshu region. Nothing else. Which is what I tried to keep establishing. But I guess no one paid attention to that. Anyway, the only reason it is still "basis" is because of the context of the interview. However, context is a shaky base. There could be context in it or there couldn't. Technically, the motif version is still the correct version until we know more.

:::Also, I would love to help you with the page that you are talking with Andy about but I have no idea which it is. But good luck, my friend. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 14:47, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

::::Sawamular101「It seems to have been my thoughtless idea.」
::::This sentence is an apology to Mr. AndyPKMN to the unfavorable criticism. It was a childish idea of having deleted the sentence because I was disliked.

::::I'm sorry by poor English. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 15:08, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::I undid that edit because the sentence was hard to connect to the origin. I understand that that particular pheasant is the national bird of Japan. However, I am unconvinced that the Pokémon is based on that particular type of pheasant, rather than a pheasant or quail in general. From the Wikipedia article that was linked to, it appeared that the colors of the Pokémon were all wrong, and there were few other similarities either. To be clear, I don't have Black or White versions, so if there is any information on behavior or appearance that ties {{p|Kenhorou}} to the Green Pheasant, please feel free to re-add the origin statement. Just make clear how we can tell that is the origin in the first place.

:::::Sawam, I'd also like to make clear that I bear no ill-feelings toward either Mackinz or yourself over the debate over Isshu's basis. We're all trying to improve the wiki, and a group effort like this is bound to lead to some confrontations. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 15:59, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

::::::I saw your edit. Thank you for leaving the sentence of the possibility that I added it just as it is. It doesn't agree completely because it is a Pokemon. Thank you for admitting some similar parts.

::::::It was a mistake to bring the problem concerning a past discussion in to this place. It apologizes for my improper remark.[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 16:46, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

== Comunication besides Bulbapedia ==

I would really like to talk to you without the prying eye of the Bulbapedia moderators. Any way I can? MSN messenger, Yahoo or something? Twitter? dA? --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 19:28, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
:Hm? I don't know, I'm not big about giving out contact info. I do have a DeviantART; I'm "drewstertwin". I suppose you could contact me there. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 23:36, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

== Your sandbox ==

Although this isn't a big deal, just, for next time you make a page, it is much easier to handle if you have the userspace page at the future page's name instead of at your sandbox. Not necessary, but meh. It's fine for the easy chat system, just, for future reference if you plan on working on more than one thing. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 18:32, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
:Sorry. I wanted it to be reusable for other articles. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 19:22, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

== BW predictions ==

You're not the first person asking about this. At first I didn't want to predict BW stuff but now I think I could do this. But only game characters (and very major anime characters). And maybe places, if I come up with anything good. I am not going to predict Pokemon. I've got some good predictions for BW characters, so I might put them up sometime. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 12:20, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

== Anville Trains ==

Would have asked on your train page, but figured you might see this sooner. Would you like the complete information on each train? I have that, if you want it, since this is going to take a week and a half, otherwise. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 11:12, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
:Oh yeah, that'd be great. In fact, if you already have all of the information, you could see about going ahead and integrating it into Anville Town's article. No need to give me the information if you can add it on your own. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 11:46, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
::Not quite sure it's that easily integrated, but it's there, now. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 14:24, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

== About saving server space ==

I would appreciate your continued advice on doing my part to save server space, as this page appears to be a much more peaceful place for discussion. Okay, so deleting my talk page contents isn't permitted, understood. That aside, what are other things I can do as a member to cut down on unnecessary usage of server space? Thanks! Cheers, [[User:Haxorus|Haxorus]] 06:20, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
:Look at page histories. Every revision of every page is stored in the database. Server space isn't an issue, and these "space saving" edits you're planning actually ''increase'' the size of the wiki. The issues we are having are to do with server load (i.e. the number of connections at any one time) [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:32, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

== Your "Adding Music to Other Pages" suggestion. ==

Hello! I am not sure if you are still active on Bulbapedia, although I agreed with your [[Project Music]] suggestion of documenting music usage! I had an idea of doing something similar, although the amount of work has been a bit daunting.. I think documenting the usage of each encounter theme (for important Pokémon Trainers as well as the various Pokémon Trainer classes), battle theme, "post-battle/aftermath" theme, location theme (for buildings, natural landmarks, and routes), minigame theme, and cutscene theme (such as "Rayquaza's Descent" from ''Pokémon Emerald'') would be an excellent endeavor for Bulbapedia, although admittedly, it would take a lot of work. I could probably help out with documenting music usage in ''Pokémon Emerald'' and ''Pokémon FireRed'', although we would need a lot of help for the other games. [[User:Fenyx4|Fenyx4]] ([[User talk:Fenyx4|talk]]) 21:49, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

:Hi! Sorry I didn't ever get back to you about this—it's been a while since I was an active editor but I noticed your comment when I logged in today. To be honest, it's been so long that I'm not even entirely sure of the best way to go about this. And considering it would involve so many different pages, I don't know whether diving right in would be the best option. I think I might start creating a list of the music to specific routes in my Sandbox. Once I've actually got some work to show for it maybe I'll approach someone about adding that information to the actual pages. —[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 19:36, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Eastern Sea

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AndyPKMN:

==Move==
It's the only Eastern Sea in all of the Pokémon games. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 16:17, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
: Yeah I don't recall there being any other Eastern Seas. '''''[[Shadow Sneak (move)|Sneaking]] from page to page... It's the page-editing purple ghost... [[User:Gengarzilla|Gengar]][[User talk:Gengarzilla|zilla!]]''''' 14:49, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
:: There is East Sea Shellos, but I don't think that would create much confusion (and if it did, you could always just link to that on the page). —[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 19:30, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Talk:List of Pokémon by base stats in Generation VI

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AndyPKMN: /* Sort by Evolutionary Status? */

Too big, I know, but dividing each atributte would make it bigger. I was thinking about dividing it into Baby, Basic, 2nd Evolution-middle, 2nd Evolution-end, 3rd Evolution and Legendary. What do you people think?01:21, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
:Well, it could use the <nowiki>{{p}}</nowiki> links. Are there ways to section off these kind of lists? And to get the <nowiki>{{pokelist}}</nowiki> template in there? [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 06:40, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
::This kind of list is not meant to be divided into sections. But I think we could add a totals/average column. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 07:05, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Both, maybe? [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 19:23, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Someone knows how the images should be named to change the crosses? [[User:Gambler|Gambler]] 21:06, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

By the way, could we have an image, and maybe their type, put into the with the Pokémon? Just a thought ...[[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 22:50, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Also it is hard to follow the same line when reading horizontally, has anyone got any ideas on how we could fix that? [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 15:00, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

We could have alternating colours on every-other line... Hmmm... [[User:Tesh|TESH]][[User Talk:Tesh|TALK]][[User:Tesh/Sandbox|SAND]] 21:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Why is Speed not the last stat in the list like it is in the video games? It would make it much easier to remember which column holds which stat after the headings scroll off the screen if they were presented in the same order as they are in the games. --[[User:Kitsunegami|Kitsunegami]] 03:41, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
: Also: how hard would it be to add a "Total" column? --[[User:Kitsunegami|Kitsunegami]] 06:48, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

== Misleading article name ==

I came to this page expecting a list of Pokemon organized in order of their base stats, but all I found was a list of Pokemon ''with'' their base stats. I don't have the time to do something on such a large scale as this, but perhaps someone should reorganize the list so its from highest to lowest (or vice versa)? If not that, perhaps simply change the title to just "List of base stats" or something to that affect. // [[User:Szayel Aporro|'''''SzayelAporro''''']] 18:00, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Really? I was expecting lowest to highest.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 18:04, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:Either way is fine, personally. I just think it should be organized in some way. // [[User:Szayel Aporro|'''''SzayelAporro''''']] 18:08, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

:: This is a sortable list. Just click the symbol at the top of the column you want to sort by. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 03:10, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

== Shedinja! ==

Shedinja's HP stat is actually infinite (∞), not 1. Therefore it shouldn't be counted in it's stat average. No Pokémon get weaker upon evolution, that's just unheard of. Who else agrees? [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] 18:36, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
:Infinite? That's funny; his [[Shedinja (Pokémon)#Base stats|article]] says one. // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|'''''SzayelAporroGranz''''']] 21:06, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
::Yes, but if Shedinja's HP is always 1, then the stat is incalculable, therefore regarding it as ∞. Meaning that it shouldn't be incuded in the stat average. [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] 21:10, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
:::It's 1/0. OH SHI-- '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 04:26, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Also. Scyther's Speed base stat hits the toilet when it evolves. And besides, what's the difference between 1 and 0? ...well, one. So all you'd do is take away 1/6 from the average. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 04:35, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
:"No Pokémon gets weaker upon evolution"? There are quite a few Pokémon who get slower when they evolve, and there's one case where the Pokémon's '''ATTACK''' stat goes down (Trapinch evolving into Vibrava). [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 17:50, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, that statement is wrong. But if a stat is a constant then you can't work out it's base. [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 20:33, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure that whatever method people are using to back-calculate stats, that if you are using division in the formula, for a Pokémon who's stat value never changes if there were such a division, you'd be dividing zero by zero - that is to say, you'd end up with no answer at all because the variable you are seeking is no longer actually part of the equation. If y=m+0*x, *any* value of x will work, infinity or zero or anything in between ... so saying that the base stat is infinite is silly.[[User:Iliekmudkips|Iliekmudkips]] 21:45, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

== Unified Special Stat? ==

In Red/Blue/Yellow, there was only one Special stat; in later games, they would split it and change either Sp. Attack or Sp. Defense. Anyway, this article doesn't have ANY information about a Pokémon's Special base stat in R/B/Y (from this chart, it's impossible to tell whether S.A. or S.D. was its Special stat in R/B/Y). Should a separate column be made, or highlight them in another color or something?{{unsigned|Blaziken257}}
:Well it's true though, special splitting into special attack, special defense.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 16:43, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
::That would be a good idea, though it might confuse people, since that wouldn't be considered in the stat average. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 04:30, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Why not have a page per Generation? [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 22:29, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Why nt just bold the stat that was the special stat? [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 13:08, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Make another page just for the first generation. The base stats are technically different there. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 01:06, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Started doing it but can't alter the columns in the template, i have re-written teh template for gen 1 but have no idea how to add it to the wiki's templates [[User:SPAKlick|SPACKlick]] 8:08, 19 december 2009 (UTC)

:I've made a generation I page at [[List of Pokémon by base stats (Generation I)]] [[User:Jecowa|Jecowa]] 20:50, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

== Little Character Pictures ==

We should have the Pokémon's pictures that you see when you view your party next to the Pokémon in the list, for easier reference. I saw this on another website and it was very well laid out. I forgot the site now though. [[User:TeePee-20.7|TeePee-20.7]] 16:17, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:This page is large enough already. Adding images will make it too big. [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 22:28, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

== Want to weed out Pokemon which can evolve ==

Asking for too much? --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 00:04, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
:Here's an idea: Have an "Evolves from" and an "Evolves into" with the images of the Pokémon that fit each category, as links to those pages. Eevee will have five images in the second column, but it will be easy and quick to see which Pokémon are in final forms. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 01:04, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

== Stat Total ==

You have the average, now how about thier base stats all added up. --[[User:Fxblaster|Fxblaster]] 03:28, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:That's just the average times 6. Actually, I think the total should be in the table, rather than the average. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 11:45, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::But when comparing Pokemon, talking about the average is more accurate than the stat total, so having an average is neccessary. Also, I think the stat total should be added too. [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 16:02, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
:::More accurate? Each one can be derived from the other. Having the average is not necessary in any way. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 05:34, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, Mew has a base stat total of 600 (all of theyre stats add up to this), but an average base stat of 100 (each stat is around about this number). So the average tells us what each stat should be around in a way. Either way, whether we have an average stat or not, this table isn't going to change much. I mean, add a Total cloumn to the table if you want to, but leave the average column. [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 09:16, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Just to make sure, you realize that avg=total/6, right? And that to calculate average, you calculate the total first? (Well, you don't HAVE to, but it's the easiest way.) --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 05:46, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, I know how to calculate averages. Like I said, add a total column if you want to. [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 18:57, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::We could always use a median value rather than average right? I think showing a median value (middle value) would be more useful than average as it would show where each stat would be around --[[User:Nothinhappened|Nothinhappened]] 00:53, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

== Additional Classification ==

I think one should be able to view base stats of pokemon by "Type" and "generation".This way , players can compare pokemon by type and generation availability to be able to choose their team.Twistedpokefan.

I also think that it would be important to feature the type as it is a great way to see what pokémon is the best for each type (and thus fighting style) and it would help a lot the trainers build their parties.manelinho.

== Deoxys form error ==
Can someone clean up the format error caused by putting Deoxys under one number? When you try to sort by average it creates a whole mess of problems!

== New format ==

Hey, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_base_stats&diff=732909&oldid=732583 I did my part]. Using [http://xkcd.com/208/ '''magic''']. [[User:Mortal|Mortal]] 13:05, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

I've added all the pokémon. Each forme is seperate. [[User:Hootington|Hootington]] 13:40, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

== Stats by index number? ==

I did some more snooping around in the ROM and found out that the eggs have a placeholder base stat value of 10. Is that noteworthy to include ''anywhere'', let alone this article? [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 22:47, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

== Forms' National number designations ==

In an impressive edit, {{u|Ztobor}} recently added the base stats for all Generation V Pokémon kinds. However, he introduced a somewhat new designation for Pokémon alternate forms, a single-letter suffix for "secondary" forms such as "648S". This is fine by me, but because the alternate forms of previous generations were not changed, the table's formatting is now self-inconsistent.

Are there any objections to tweaking the previous generations' rows to match this format, e.g. "487O"? [[User:Redletterday|Redletterday]] 05:12, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

:For posterity, Umeko himself has removed the letters. Joy upon joys, the table is consistent again, restoring sanity to a thousand-and-two neurosis-stricken people. [[User:Redletterday|Redletterday]] 02:39, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

== Non-Legendary ==

I think it would be useful to be able to remove legendaries from the list. (We could also create a new page containing only non-legendaries.){{unsigned|Tk3141}}
:That'd be kind of pointless... since they all fit here and no size restrictions are being broken. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 10:18, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== Shortcut ==

I think this article should get a shortcut for easier access, as I assume it is accessed quite a lot. [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 14:48, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
:This fine base stat chart is located on one of the most popular Pokémon information sites, but making it as difficult to access as it is, we are practically asking people to bookmark it or use another site for this information. I'd appreciate if someone could tell me why this article should not get a shortcut, such as bsdex, to ease access. I mean, we've even got Rdex. [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 16:10, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

== Pokemon Conquest ==

There should be a list for pokemon conquest stats aswell. {{unsigned|Pastamasta}}

== Stat spreadsheet ==

Is there any way to create a spreadsheet out of the stats listed here other than manually creating it? Like, can whatever is in place to list them in a chart be converted to a spreadsheet that I can use to make a graph out of? [[User:Jabberwockxeno|Jabberwockxeno]] ([[User talk:Jabberwockxeno|talk]]) 23:20, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

== Mega Pokémon in the list? ==

Should we include Mega Pokémon in this list, because I think it would be very helpful for those who want to compare their stats to other Pokémon, and alternate forms are in this list as well? [[User:Uncle Edit|He's here! The one and only...Uncle Edit!]] ([[User talk:Uncle Edit|talk]]) 21:18, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
:It'd be great for Megas to be included, I say. --[[User:WyndFox|Wynd]] [[User talk:WyndFox|Fox]] 00:51, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
I went ahead and did it. It'd be nice for someone to check in case I screwed up. [[User:EnosShayrem|Enos]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|Shay]][[Kyurem (Pokémon)|rem]][[User_talk:EnosShayrem|Talk]] 22:17, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

== Ampharos' Defense ==
So I changed the table to reflect that Ampharos' Defense was changed from 75 to 85 in Gen VI, but I couldn't figure out how to make a note that it's different between generations without screwing up the template: if I put one in the Defense box itself, the BST and average formulas bring up an error, and if I put it next to Ampharos' name, it messes up the link template. There definitely should be a note there so that people don't come looking for Ampharos' Defense in Gen II-IV and see the wrong number, so how should it be done? [[User:EnosShayrem|Enos]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|Shay]][[Kyurem (Pokémon)|rem]][[User_talk:EnosShayrem|Talk]] 22:40, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
:Never mind, I think I figured out a solution. [[User:EnosShayrem|Enos]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|Shay]][[Kyurem (Pokémon)|rem]][[User_talk:EnosShayrem|Talk]] 22:47, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

== Unable to save changes to Pikachu ==

Pikachu's base stats have been modified in Generation 6. They are now 35/55/40/50/50/90 (Def +10, SpD +10). I have tried to update this directly on the page, but for some reason the changes fail to save. Can someone else make the change instead? Thanks in advance. pikalax 15:01, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

== Suggested change to improve trivia sections ==

Does anyone else think the "highest base X stat of all Y-type Pokemon" trivia on individual Pokémon pages are really space-wasting and uninteresting? This article is almost enough to make all of them redundant; I think we should just add a (non-sortable, if possible) column for type on it so we don't need to have all these silly trivia. (Even if we don't add a column, I think we should at least centralize those trivia off individual articles and onto either this page or their types' pages, based on the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Espeon_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=2030095&oldid=2030088 precedent] [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Eeveelution&diff=2030107&oldid=2030084 set] with [[Eeveelution]]s.) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:43, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
:In addition to either adding a type row to this article or moving the type trivia to their respective type articles, I also have another potential solution: [[User:Pumpkinking0192/Pokémon with the highest base stats of their type|I've drafted a table]] that could work as its own article, which removes the need to have any of this kind of trivia at all. Thoughts? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:01, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
::I think it looks like it could be added as an article. Though, the trivia points might just end up linking to the article. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 04:22, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Even if the trivia points end up continuing to exist and link to that, wouldn't they be better on this page or the types' pages? I feel strongly that if they must exist, it's better to have them spread across 18 pages than across about 120 pages. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:29, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

== Redlink ==

Because one of the Mega Evolved Pokémon doesn't seem to have an icon, could someone remove this redlink? Same for the other one. --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 12:35, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
:The redlink in this case is a way of pointing out that the image should be uploaded. So having a broken file link for a short period of time until the image does get uploaded isn't a huge problem. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 00:11, 5/24/2014 (UTC)
::Thanks for accepting my request, and removing the red links I made! So I must be more careful until someone uploads it. --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 01:35, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
:::I'm not removing the redlinks. I'm putting them '''back'''. The redlink will lead right to an upload page so as soon as someone who has the ability to do so uploads the remaining Mega Evolution sprites (I don't have any form of sprite rips, myself), the page will be updated with it right away, rather than someone having to go back and change it once the files are uploaded. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 01:52, 5/24/2014 (UTC)
::::Okay, how about you do the fully-evolved Pokémon by base stats and edit it, right? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 02:02, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
:::::.... You're making zero sense. All I'm talking about is the sprites. This page is complete in terms of the base stats for megas, last I checked... [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 03:58, 5/24/2014 (UTC)

== don't want the Mega's in the list? ==

if you, for whatever reason, don't want to see the Mega's in the list, run this javascript

'''(function(){var all=document.querySelectorAll("tbody>tr"),i;for(i=0;i<all.length;++i){if(all[i].textContent.match("Mega")){all[i].parentNode.removeChild(all[i])}}})();'''

[[User:Hanshenrik|Hanshenrik]] ([[User talk:Hanshenrik|talk]]) 20:14, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

== Sort by Evolutionary Status? ==

Could we add a column to the page for the evolutionary status of each Pokemon? To sort by Unevolved, Evolved Once, Evolved Twice, Non-Evolving and Legendary?
I reckon that'd be really useful for some people who are trying to look at the stat of a specific category of Pokemon, who would otherwise have to skim through the entire list and pick out the Pokemon that fit the category they're looking for, potentially even missing some Pokemon. [[User:UltraX7|UltraX7]] ([[User talk:UltraX7|talk]]) 18:51, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

:That's a pretty niche use, I think. As it is, this page is really pretty much the bare essentials for the topic: identification (number/sprite/name) and stats. I'd say anything else really isn't necessary or worth the bother. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:11, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

::Maybe, but why not include it anyway? It can't hurt -- anyone who doesn't need it won't use it, and anyone who does need it will use it. The inclusion of Mega Evolutions was a moderately niche inclusion too, given that Mega Evolutions aren't actual, separate Pokemon, and yet they were added -- someone even made a Javascript script with which to exclude them from the page, for those who really didn't want them there. Perhaps, for those who really didn't want this feature, the same could be done for them. [[User:UltraX7|UltraX7]] ([[User talk:UltraX7|talk]]) 20:56, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:::Mega Evolutions are hardly a "niche" inclusion—they're included because their base stats actually change, just like earlier form changes (Deoxys, Giratina, Shaymin, etc.). But in this case I hardly see why having to skim is so bad—it's easy to just disregard Pokémon that don't fit the criteria you're looking for. So long as you can order the list in the order of whichever stat you're interested in, I don't see why adding additional methods of narrowing the information down would be all that necessary. —[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 21:21, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Kyurem (Pokémon)

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{{Forme info|646{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: H}} mod 3}}|1=W|2=B}}.png|Dragon|Ice|[[Form differences#Kyurem|Kyurem's forms]]|Kyurem as though it were in {{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: H}} mod 3}}|0=Normal Kyurem|1=White Kyurem|2=Black Kyurem}}|the artwork shown in the infobox, the [[Effort values|EV yield]] shown on the page itself, the anime image shown, the base stats entry which is unhidden, and the learnset entry which is unhidden|day}}

==Third version==
Before anyone else decides to talk about it, yeah, I'm pretty much gonna guarantee it being the mascot of BW's third version. No further discussion on this. Until we get the announcement and boxart. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:28, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
:Unfair. [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_with_unique_type_combinations&action=historysubmit&diff=1189335&oldid=1189330 I already did that].--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 20:41, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

What will be the name of the third game?
- Pokémon White Version Reshiram
- Pokémon Black Version Zekrom
- Pokémon Grey Version Kyurem

It could be, don't ya think?Sakas 19:11, 7 October 2010 (UTC)SakasFixe
:Didn't TTE just say "no further discussion on this"? That's speculation and belongs on the forums, not here. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 19:14, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

You are bad for people. You want something related to "discussion" you'll have it: Where is the Official artwork of Ken Sugimori? Happy? {{unsigned|SakasFixe}}
:There is no Sugimori artwork yet for the non-pre-release Pokemon. But that doesn't belong here on Kyurem's talk. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 22:41, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

==Norse==
"It may also be based on the {{wp|Wyvern}} of {{wp|Norse}} mythology, said to wreck havoc in {{wp|Ragnarök}}, the end of the world, should it melt from the ice it was imprisoned in."

That's what I've been told. Anyone able to confirm/dismiss that? {{unsigned|Yurtablemoron}}
:Nope, not true. - [[User:050294|050294]] 14:32, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

That's basically what Reshiram is (minus the ice) [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 21:51, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

I agree with the norsh myth theory also perhaps it has connections to Fimbulvetr? The harsh winter where men will wage ceaseless war against each other
and brothers will kill each other= the two brothers using Regish and Zec sound plausible? [[User:Frosslass|Frosslass]] 12:47, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

==Overworld Sprite==
I don't think this sentence in the physiology section is necessary: "It should be noted that on its overworld sprite, the left part of its overall bodyparts is somehow broken and smaller than the right part." The smaller part is correct, sure, but it isn't broken--it's just smaller because of the perspective. Same goes for its forward-facing battle sprite. At the very least, "overall bodyparts" should be changed to just "body." [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 03:32, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

== Feelings? ==

Out of curiosity, how is Kyurem a "Feelings Pokémon"? I think that 境界 ''kyoukai'' (boundary) would make more sense than 胸懐 ''kyoukai'' (heart/feelings). Though, there's the possibility that "Kyoukai" could be from 鏡 ''kyou'' (mirror) and 灰 ''kai'' (gray/grey/ash/griseous). [[User:神奇超龍|神奇超龍]] 08:34, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

:The in-game description, according to Veekun, is きょうかい . Compare it to Reshiram's はくよう (white yang) and Zekrom's こくいん (black yin), and we may find something. [[User:Eriorguez|Eriorguez]] 06:41, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

== Kyurem Origin ==

As Zekrom and Reshiram are both based on types of energy, is it possible that Kyurem is based on {{wp|Cold Fusion}}? --[[User:Podunk|Podunk]] 07:06, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
:Sigh... Cold Fusion has nothing to do with ice. It's a theoretical variation on a typical fusion reaction which can be done at or near ROOM TEMPERATURE. I removed this origin already, but it keeps getting added. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 10:52, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Kyurem's page says that it '''is''' an extraterrestrial Pokemon. But it isn't expressly stated that he arrived on that meteor- it's only a legend, same as Clefairy. Neither is there any mention of Kyurem's name in the game when discussing it. Shouldn't it say "'''may be''' an extraterrestrial Pokemon", or something similar? [[User:Soma K.|Soma K.]] 21:22, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

== Kyurem's Tail Resembles..... ==
- Reshiram's Tail resembles a Jet Engine
- Zekrom's Tail resembles an Electric Generator

But we still don't know what Kyurem's tail looks like. Any ideas?[[User:Duo2nd|Duo2nd]] 02:25, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
:A Plug! look at how it's shaped and then look at the lightbulb things on it's wings [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 02:56, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
::Doesn't looks like one to me. :/ [[User:Duo2nd|Duo2nd]] 08:44, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
::: Looks like a plug to me - it's got [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/2/22/Spr_b_g5_646.png three] prongs, like [http://www.advin.com/plug-USA-W512.JPG this]. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:52, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
::::It is not quite like that image, it does have three prongs though it looks more like one of those plastic pizza tables they use to hold the box up then a plug... [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 19:45, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
:::: Could be a bunch of icicles (imagine the tail pointing down to the ground) --[[User:Shadowater|Shadowater]] 01:15, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
::::: A plug: http://www.reuk.co.uk/Dual-Powered-Lighting-Circuit.htm Scroll down to the first image. [[User:Don't Hug Lucario!|Don't Hug Lucario!]] 16:30, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Looks like a glacure.[[User:WWWAJG|WWWAJG]] 22:09, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon.jp Pokedex pic ==

I'm thinking it would be a good replacement for the current infobox picture, which not only is tiny, but comes up all pixellated in its file description area. I can't extract from a Flash-based site or upload here, but I know there's people who can. [[User:Silverlucario|Frezgle]] 19:21, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

== National PokeDex ==

Other than the event legendarie, Kyurem (And Landorus), according the the guide books, are NOT required to complete the National PokeDex. Why it is like this is what I d0on't lnow, since Kyurem can be caught in any copy of B/W, and Landorus not being required is also unusual because Tornadus and Thundurus are, which both ultimately unlock Landorus anyways. Would it be worth trivia for both of them? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 14:50, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

== shiny sprite ==

Kyurem is grey and it's shiny sprite is -black and white- with the eye color being a combined version of Zekrom's red eyes and Reshiram's blue eyes, notable? [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] 19:11, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
: I don't think, but wait for more opinions --[[User:SamuStar|SamuStar]] 21:05, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

== Um...... ==

It is currently the final officially-revealed Pokémon in National Pokédex order.
Huh? --[[User:K4kirin|K4kirin]] 08:32, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
:Kyurem is the last Pokémon in the Pokédex. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 08:40, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
::Keldeo, Meloettea and Genesect haven't been officially revealed to the public yet.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Reshiram (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Zekrom (Pokémon)|ire]] 08:41, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

== New Movie? ==

Oha Suta has revealed a teaser trailer for a movie, it appears that Kyurem and the Musketeer Quartet will be in it.
[http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vHEgvv8LEjE Pokémon Movie 15-Kyurem VS. The Sacred Swordsman Teaser Trailer]
--[[User:Flying Bidoof|Flying Bidoof]] 12:37, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
*We know, its in Kyurem's 'In the anime' section. and the page is already being made: [[M15]] {{unsigned|AquaMaster}}

== Ideals, truth and dreams. ==

Drayden told me the third one (dreams) is also in this row (so it would be Kyurem's one). Adding? [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] 16:24, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
:Still speculation at the moment. Better to leave it out until is is officially associated with dreams. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 16:40, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

== Imprison Level ==

Do you consider it noteworthy that the levels at which Kyurem (and by extension Reshiram and Zekrom) attempt(s) to learn Imprison are 8 and 64? 8² = 64 and so the root of 64 is eight. Since the games draw some inspiration from mathematics, as seen in N, N's Themes and the boats in Castelia City this might be programmed in intentionally.

[[User:Renoir|Renoir]] 23:19, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

== New Forms ==

Looks like Kyurem gets two new forms: [[Image:M15_poster.png|thumb]] [[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 23:21, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
:It's been confirmed that the formes are Black Kyurem and White Kyurem. Types are waiting for confirmation, although I've heard a couple websites saying that Black Kyurem is Dragon/Electric and White Kyurem is Dragon/Fire. --'''[[User:Trickyb|Tricky]][[User Talk:Trickyb|B]] 01:14, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::The usual Bulbapedia protocol is to wait for official sources before we add new info. So until that happens we're gonna wait it out. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 01:17, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Um isn't Pokemon Smash an official source?? Cuz the forms were revealed on there.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 01:19, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::I've read that they will be Ice/Electric and Ice/Fire respectively, but that makes more sense. We must all wait and see...--[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 01:20, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::I was referring to the types not the forms themselves. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 01:21, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::They '''are''' going to be Ice/Electric and Ice/Fire, i've just realized. Firstly, look at the new logos, they have Ice crytals with the second types color on them. Also look at the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Kyurem_forms.png full picture] there is ice encroaching all over the old B/W background. Like they say, a picture is worth a thousand words.--[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 03:29, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Guys... remember this page is to discuss how to improve the article, not to speculate or add your own personal thoughts on what types Kyurem's forms might be. Please take other such discussions to the forums. Thanks. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:I don't think it's appropriate to put the artwork for the new forms in the infobox for Kyurem until we know more about them. [[User:ThomasWinwood|ThomasWinwood]] 09:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:: ^this. Masuda confirmed that Black Kyurem and White Kyurem are seperate Pokémon so I'm perplexed as to why Black Kyurem is even the infobox image on the Kyurem page. [[User:Ewkay|Ewkay]] 11:00, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::He didn't really confirm anything but their names, the way he structured the sentence however could be taken either way. I think we should leave Black Kyurem and White Kyurem on the Kyurem page unless they come out and explicitly state that they are completely new Pokemon with new Pokedex numbers.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 14:38, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::He said specifically though that they '''are''' the names of the new Pokémon. But to reply to {{u|Kenji-girl}}, I'm mostly trying to apply logic to it. Im not giving random-ass guesses, but giving logical, evidence based ones, to better the page.--[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 15:08, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::A guess is still a guess whether logical or not and it should be reserved for the forums. What we do is wait for them to tell us what they are. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 19:43, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Trivia ==
"There is placeholder data for an alternate form of Kyurem in Pokémon Black and White. There was the same type of placeholder data for Rotom, Giratina, and Shaymin in Diamond and Pearl." - Could an admin expand on this now, explaining how its two new forms have been revealed? ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 09:52, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

I also think it would be worth noting that Kyurem is the first Pokemon to be the version mascot of two games in the same generation.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 12:46, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:Oh and of course editing the top of the page to say he is the version mascot of both Black 2 and White 2.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 13:03, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::Until new info comes out I don't think that either of those are going to be added for now. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 17:05, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Art Descriptions ==

For Kyurem's alternate formes, why does it say "Art by Ken Sugimori from Black 2", etc.? For every other released Pokémon, it says something like "Art by Ken Sugimori from Ruby ''and Sapphire''", even for a version exclusive like Groudon. [[Special:Contributions/Enervation|~]][[User:Enervation|Enervation]] 21:30, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:Mostly because I was confused by the switch. D: There would be three image switches, and two different captions. I didn't want it to end up with BW art and saying "Art from Black and White 2", and I also didn't want to be redundant and have Black White 2 be listed twice. But I have nothing against someone using both titles for the artworks. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 21:34, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

==Placeholder==
In the trivia, what do you mean by "placeholder data for alternative formes"? [[User:RedYoshi|RedYoshi]] 22:15, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Kyurem had no alternate forms in BW, when a pokemon has no alternate forms they are given a value of Zero in that "section", Kyurem had a Value of one implying that we would see more forms.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 22:46, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== splitting ==

I suggest splitting the article into white kyurem,black kyurem,and kyurem.But not until we know more the first two.--[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 12:44, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
:I think that's what we plan to do...--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:52, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
::They are simply Formes, and we have never given alternate Formes their own articles before. If we do, we will be giving Origin Forme Giratina and Sky Forme Shaymin articles too. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:56, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
:::While I agree that simply giving each form maybe a small section on the page, wouldn't Primal Dialga count as an alternate forme of Dialga? [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 12:57, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Primal Dialga ultimately counts as a separate ''character'', not a separate form. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 13:05, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::Ah, alright then. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 13:07, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Forms that appear to be the fusion of Kyurem and Zekrom/Reshiram. For all we know, they could be getting treated like entirely new Pokemon instead of forms, with their own Pokedex entries and everything. At this point it is all speculation --[[User:Shadowater|Shadowater]] 18:49, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
:::I agree with you there, Snorlax! If we did give each forme its own page, we'd have to have a page for each of Deoxys' different formes, as well as Rotom, Arceus (though it technically doesn't change formes, just coloring and type), Castform, and all of the other Pokémon that have the ability to change forme, which would seriously be going '''WAY''' overboard! [[User:Pikachu9000|Pikachu]][[User talk:Pikachu9000|9000]] 20:49, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

I wasn't thinking about that when I suggested it.I guess it is a bad idea.Except we still don't know if they actually are forms.--[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 22:39, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
: I know Serebii is a seconhand source, and wouldn't dream of asking you to post this on the article without anything better, but [http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/661226-pokemon-black-version-2/62110120/692585765 he says they are just alternate formes]. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 23:25, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
:They have never added a Pokemon midway through a generation. If this was Gen VI they would be advertising that.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 15:27, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

What about arceus?--[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 23:01, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
:Arceus was in the code for Diamond and Pearl. It was not added mid-way through the generation. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:33, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

== Kyurem ==

I thought they were not forms of Kyurems? They said it was two new/different Pokemon? Also, should you use this picture on the article, as this is what it shows in the anime? like you do with the Castform, and Rotom?
[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/c/c3/646Kyurem.png]? [[User:AquaMaster|AquaMaster]] 19:52, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
:Masuda tweeted and stated that they were called 'Black Kyurem' and 'White Kyurem'. I never heard anyone mention that they were different Pokemon. [[User:Funktastic~!|It's Funktastic~!]] 20:10, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
::We hardly know ''anything'' for sure. We know for sure they're Kyurem, and that's it. They've mentioned "separate Pokémon" but if I recall, they said the same thing about almost every form (Rotom for example). So until we know more than just what they look like, and the names of the games, let's not jump any guns, sharks, etc.. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:19, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
*we should use [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/c/c3/646Kyurem.png] this as the main picture though, cause this is the form which is in the anime etc, can it be changed?[[User:AquaMaster|AquaMaster]] 20:31, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
:::For the record, we are not simply relying on Masuda's tweets. Other things like the press releases for the US and Europe and the official teaser trailer have also called them Black Kyurem and White Kyurem. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:10, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

*I think from the trailer, there was a legend which Kyurem was lent the Power from Zekrom and Reshiram under circumstances, from what I can understand, in which the Swordsman did not agree. [[User:AquaMaster|AquaMaster]] 14:43, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== Anime images ==

There's now anime pics for [[a:File:White Kyurem anime.png|White]] and [[a:File:Black Kyurem anime.png|Black]] Kyurem. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 20:17, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

== Categories ==
Someone who has permission (probably an admin) should add Kyurem to the "Version Mascot" category, since that's about the only thing we know for sure about these new games.[[User:SidStarkiller|SidStarkiller]] 22:24, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

== New forme names ==
The new names for the formes have to be added into the article. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 22:27, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

== Forme Typing? ==

I saw on Serebii that the types for each of kyurems formes has been revealed. Aaaaaaaaaand it's the same. So what should be said about this?
:They should put them down. Plus, Black Kyurem's 10'10", while White Kyurem's 11'10". Plus, both formes are 325kg (716.5lb)[[User:KirbyRider|KirbyRider]] 00:22, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
::None of that info will be added without an official source. We will not under any circumstances permit theft of information from Serebii. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:04, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
:::The information wasn't from Serebii, they just reported on it, here ya go. [[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 23:12, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
::::While I realise that they are images, PokeBeach are ''not'' a suitable source either. Fortunately, I was able to fine these two images on Amazon.com, which actually seem to be slightly different. [http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/91DQpVrkUWL._AA1500_.jpg 1] [http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/91j6uwoyIYL._AA1500_.jpg 2]. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 23:56, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/B007KWR1H6/ref%3Dnosim/bestgate-22
They look identical to me, this is where serebii and pokebeach both got it from.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 04:57, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

== Wendigo? ==

I recently say a picture of a monster called "Wendigo," a winter spirit of starvation and cannibalism. It also looks like White Kyurem. Could White Kyurem be based off it? the winter part reflects Kyurem's ice type, the starvation part could be why White Kyurem is so skinny, and the cannibalism could be why Kyurem is said to eat other Pokemon and people. Here is a picture of a Wendigo, from myexistenz.com [http://www.myexistenz.com/x/article15/article1/Wendigo.jpg] [[User:Khimerami|Khimerami]] 18:25, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
:I don't think it's related to the Wendigo. The Wendigo is basically a monster from Indian legends (or so I have heard). It has differing descriptions, and I've seen a lot of other pictures depicting something different. [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 19:27, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
:: No, Wendingo isn't related to the Indian legends. {{tt|*|I'm a "Hindu" :( }} [[User:Poke.geek|'''P''']][[User talk:Poke.geek|'''okége''']][[Special:Contributions/Poke.geek|'''ek''']] 19:40, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
::: Sorry, that's what I thought. Or so I heard. [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 02:57, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
:::: Legendary Pokémon are based on all sorts of myths from various cultures, why should that matter? Anyway, wikipedia mentions that the Wendigo mainly possessed or transformed humans, and especially prefers cannibals. It doesn't really mention the Wendigo itself carrying off humans away to eat, which is more or less what Kyurem did. So I'm not sure if there is that much relevance. [[User:Rai Marshall|Rai Marshall]] 03:04, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
:::: The Wendigo comes from North American Native legends --[[User:Shadowater|Shadowater]] ([[User talk:Shadowater|talk]]) 20:20, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

== Hmmm? ==

Are those ropes connecting Black/White Kyurem's generator thing to its back? Or is that energy? It's seen on the box art for Black and White 2. [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 22:37, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
:The spikes on its shoulders extend and go into the "plugs" on its tail. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 22:39, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

== Different cries? ==

If you watch the third video here: http://www.filb.de/1772 when Black Kyurem is sent out, it's using Zekrom's cry, rather than Kyurem's. [[User:Dilophosaurus Rex|Dilophosaurus Rex]] 09:25, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
:Definitely a different cry, but not Zekrom's '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 17:10, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

== White Kyurem forme change method revealed through M15 trailer? ==
[http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/swf/player/trailer120413_yokoku2.html This trailer from the official Pokémon movie website] shows Kyurem using an attack involving fire, which is speculated to be [[Ice Burn]]. After use, an orange ball of energy appears within its tail, it flies upward and becomes surrounded in an orange stream of energy and emerges as White Kyurem. Since it is from an official source (however, not directly linked to the games)i think it is worth mentioning.
[[User:Renoir|Renoir]] 17:05, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
:Since we don't know if it is Ice Burn and what caused it, it is best to leave it for now. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:47, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

== White Kyurem's Picture ==

Should we really use White Kyurem's picture for the entirety of the page? I mean... regular Kyurem seems more neutral. [[User:DevaGolgotha|DevaGolgotha]] 22:24, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
:Read the top of the talk page please. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:25, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

== warning at top of page ==

the warning says the change only effects the artwork, however when under White Kyurem the high changes from 3.3 meters to 3.6. You might want to change that to avoid confusion. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] 02:30, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

== Origin section ==

"Given that its Japanese name contains mu, it may be based on the koan mu." From the transliteration in the infobox at the top, the Japanese name doesn't seem to have "mu" in it. [[Special:Contributions/Enervation|~]][[User:Enervation|Enervation]] 20:19, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
:It actually does have "mu" in it. While Kyurem is the official romanization of Kyurem's Japanese name, it's actually written as "Kyuremu" in Japanese. --[[User:Funktastic~!|It's Funktastic~!]] 21:38, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

== You guys have the wrong palette for Kyurem's party sprite ==

I'm assuming you guys used the Veekun rip. That rip uses an incorrect palette ID. Notice how the thing on Kyurem's head that's supposed to be yellow is purple on Veekun's icon rip. I checked my game, it uses a different palette than Veekun's incorrect rip, and the thing is yellow, unlike the bad rip where its purple. Here's a more accurate rip:
http://www.spriters-resource.com/ds/pokemonblackwhite/sheet/37497 (scroll to the bottom to see Kyurem)
[[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] ([[User talk:Chaos Rush|talk]]) 13:38, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

==Description==

It says "its tail appears to be some sort of propulsion device; exactly what it is based on is unclear, though it may be a damaged turbine". It looks like a plug, likely as a reference that Kyurem absorbs energy instead of generating it (unlike Reshiram and Zekrom) to get more power (the new formes). [[User:Metalizard|Metalizard]] ([[User talk:Metalizard|talk]]) 04:17, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
:That is likely. Heat is a form of energy, so cold is the absence of that energy. Pardon if I sound rude, but this is discussed in the article, in the Origin section under Trivia. It does not give the exact information you pointed out, however. [[User:Kyro-Dizzy|Kyro-Dizzy]] ([[User talk:Kyro-Dizzy|talk]]) 09:04, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

== Formes have second highest base stat totals and second highest attack/special attack ==

Is it worth noting this, considering that it's apparently only two thirds of the full Pokemon? Or is it something that isn't worth noting at all? --[[User:Shadowater|Shadowater]] ([[User talk:Shadowater|talk]]) 20:18, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

== Hourly changes in article also changing the movesets? ==

I noticed that as of this moment, with the article displaying White Kyurem, it's only showing the moveset for it, with no means to view the movesets for Black or regular Kyurem. I understand the point behind the alternating images to show off the different forms, but this is getting to the point where it makes the article ''less'' informative by making it impossible to look up complete information on the pokemon without checking back at three different times. I'm not even remotely familiar with how all the coding for this works, but isn't there a way that it could be set up so that all the moveset information would still be accessible via link or such for the alternate forms regardless of which one is displayed? Because speaking as a casual user who likes to be able to quickly look up information from time to time, this is frankly obnoxious. It's not just an aesthetic change- which would be fine- but actually making it impossible to view a thorough and accurate article at one time. --[[User:ACDragonMaster|ACDragonMaster]] ([[User talk:ACDragonMaster|talk]]) 01:47, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
:Actually, I believe the switch only switches the learnset visible when you first get on the page. You can get to the other movesets by pressing the small "show" buttons next under the moveset section of the article. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 01:51, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

In the same vein, I came to this page just to compare the artwork of all three forms, but that can't be done with the current set-up. I cleared the cache which gave me one other artwork, and went into edit the page to get the filenames so I could merely link to them, but they're not there. To this I say, why not implement a gallery section for pages that have this coding to reflect different forms? As also a casual user agreeing with the above poster, I feel it's a good idea in theory but makes finding what you want more difficult. - [[User:Deadlyslashsword|'''+Deadly''']][[User Talk: Deadlyslashsword|'''Slash''']][[Special:Contributions/Deadlyslashsword|'''Sword+''']] 01:14, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
:There's a link to the category on the archives at the bottom of the infobox. All the images for all three formes are there. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 09:29, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
::Also, in the second paragraph of the article you have a link to Form differences, the page that compares different formes. [[User:Duke R|'''|) u |( e''']] [[User talk:Duke R|'''®''']] 12:12, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
:::I would not have known to have looked there - again, I bring up the point of ease of accessibility for the massive casual userbase, which you guys haven't touched on. While I thank you for pointing me where I wanted to go, you shouldn't have had to. I should have been able to have found it myself without a ton of digging and searching through links and collapsible boxes. - [[User:Deadlyslashsword|'''+Deadly''']][[User Talk: Deadlyslashsword|'''Slash''']][[Special:Contributions/Deadlyslashsword|'''Sword+''']] 00:53, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

== Kyurem PMD appereance ==

New trailers out
could it be good to add a reference to it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9BXqojjxyMw#! {{unsigned|PortalDark}}

== Evolution ==
Kyurem does not evolve, and the section labelled "Evolution" shows its forme changes. Why not title the section "Formes"?
[[User:Bug Catcher Wade|'''Bug Catcher Wade''']] 03:31, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

== Black/White Kyurem Base stats? ==

Are the Black/White Kyurem Base stats unknown, since they are not [[Kyurem (Pokémon)#Base stats|listed]]? That is, not even that the total for both is 700. --[[User:Det|Det]] ([[User talk:Det|talk]]) 17:53, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
:They're on the page. They're under the regular Kyurem's base stats. You need to click on "show". --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 17:56, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
::Gahh. How could I miss that. --[[User:Det|Det]] ([[User talk:Det|talk]]) 19:01, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

== The title screen model. ==

I've uploaded [[a:File:White Kyurem title screen.png|White Kyurem]] model from title screen about year ago (back when games were only in Japan), but it's unused. Any idea where it could have a use? I totally forgot what I was doing with it... And I've just noticed that I uploaded it in 4x size (that is it's 4 times as big as in-game, considering games are 256x192 and file is 1024x768...). Could "update" so it's the size it should be. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 18:20, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

== Exp, EV, and the DNA Splicer ==

How does fusing Kyurem with Zekrom or Reshiram affect gaining Exp. and EV points? Do both of the pokemon involved (Kyurem and Zekrom/Reshiram) gain them or only Kyurem? [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] ([[User talk:Legionaireb|talk]]) 05:33, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
:Zekrom/Reshiram fuctionally don't exist while part of Black/White Kyurem. So basically, Kyurem gets all of the exp, and EV points. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 05:35, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

==Shouldn't it go White, then Black Kyurem in templates?==
Since that is the order it is listed as in the in-game Pokédex and in Pokédex 3D Pro? [[User:Ensephylon|Ensephylon]] ([[User talk:Ensephylon|talk]]) 23:23, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==

This goes for a couple other Pokemon with somewhat awkward names as well. I feel that there should be something showing the correct pronunciation of some of the names. Kyurem in particular I find to be difficult to get my head around. [[User:MegaNerd18|MegaNerd18]] ([[User talk:MegaNerd18|talk]]) 19:45, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
:Bulbapedia decided not to have name pronunciations for Pokemon because there were differences in pronunciation even from official sources. --[[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 19:57, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
::Then just include multiple official sources. You already go into great detail about some of the name origins and that's arguably less relevant than how to say the name itself. At the very least it would be better to have something over nothing. [[User:MegaNerd18|MegaNerd18]] ([[User talk:MegaNerd18|talk]]) 04:59, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
:::If we do that, then users will complain about which is the correct pronunciation and we'd have edit wars. Thus, we decided that not having pronunciation at all was the better option.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:39, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
::::This would be an unorthodox (and most likely impractical) solution, but what if there were a page specifically ABOUT pronunciations of Pokémon names, that includes information about inconsistent pronunciations and the like? Even if it's a controversial subject it would be extremely informative, and perhaps by including the information about all Pokémon on a single page, separate from the main Pokémon, it could keep things from devolving into edit wars. —[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 21:46, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Category talk:Abilities that alter damage taken

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AndyPKMN: Created page with "==Template revision== For some reason, the template that links to this article (as seen on pages such as Flash Fire) omits several of these abilities, such as Heatproof a..."

==Template revision==

For some reason, the template that links to this article (as seen on pages such as [[Flash Fire]]) omits several of these abilities, such as Heatproof and Bulletproof. The template itself isn't included on those pages, either. Templates are one of the aspects of wiki editing which I'm still not that skilled with, so could someone revise that template to include all the applicable abilities? —[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 23:01, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Fog

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AndyPKMN: Fog appears in the same locations in ORAS as it does in RSE.

{{search|weather condition fog|the [[Badge]] given by [[Morty]]|Badge#Fog Badge|Badge → Fog Badge}}
----
{{WeatherInfobox
|name=Fog
|jname=きり
|jtrans=Fog
|owimage=Fog IV Field
|baimage=Fog DPPt
|color=flying}}

'''Fog''' (Japanese '''きり''' ''Fog'') is a [[weather conditions|weather condition]] that has appeared only in {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}, as well as {{g|Battle Revolution}}. Fog also appears as an aesthetic effect in [[Generation III]], {{gen|V}} and {{gen|VI}}.

No move or Ability can call fog; it only occurs naturally. In [[Generation IV]], the move {{m|Defog}} will remove fog in battle or in the overworld when it is used.

==Description==
{{incomplete|section|Battle text in Pokemon Battle Revolution's [[Courtyard Colosseum]]}}
{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{Flying color dark}}; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 3px solid #{{Flying color}}" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background:#{{Flying color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Event
! style="background:#{{Flying color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Gen IV
|- style="background:#FFF"
| If naturally occurring
| ''"The fog is deep..."''
|- style="background:#FFF"
| After turn is complete
| ''"The fog is deep..."''
|-
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybl|5px}}" | When dispelling fog with {{m|Defog}}
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybr|5px}}" | ''"<Pokémon> blew away the deep fog with Defog!"''
|}

==On the field==
{{weatherloch|Flying}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{gameabbrev3|Pt}}
| [[Sinnoh]]
| [[Lost Tower]] 3F - 5F
| Always
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{gameabbrev3|DPPt}}
| [[Sinnoh]]
| {{rt|210|Sinnoh}} (north)
| Always
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{gameabbrev3|DPPt}}
| [[Sinnoh]]
| {{si|Victory Road}} B1F deep
| Always
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{gameabbrev3|DPPt}}
| [[Sinnoh]]
| [[Mt. Coronet]] B1F
| Always
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{gameabbrev3|DPPt}}
| [[Sinnoh]]
| [[Turnback Cave]]
| Always
|-
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{gameabbrev3|PBR}}
| style="background:#FFF" | [[Pokétopia]]
| style="background:#FFF" | [[Courtyard Colosseum]]
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybr|5px}}" | Occasionally
|}

===Aesthetic only===
{{incomplete|section|Other Gen III or V locations? Gen VI locations?}}
{{weatherloch|Flying}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{gameabbrev3|RSE}}{{gameabbrev3|ORAS}}
| [[Hoenn]]
| [[Rusturf Tunnel]]
| Always
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{gameabbrev3|RSE}}{{gameabbrev3|ORAS}}
| [[Hoenn]]
| [[Mt. Pyre]] exterior
| Always
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{gameabbrev3|RSE}}{{gameabbrev3|ORAS}}
| [[Hoenn]]
| [[Seafloor Cavern]]
| Kyogre/Groudon chamber
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{gameabbrev3|RS}}{{gameabbrev3|ORAS}}
| [[Hoenn]]
| [[Cave of Origin]]
| B3F and below
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{gameabbrev3|FRLG}}
| [[Kanto]]
| [[Pokémon Tower]]
| 3F and above
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{gameabbrev3|FRLG}}
| [[Sevii Islands]]
| [[Lost Cave]]
| Always
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{gameabbrev3|DPPt}}
| [[Sinnoh]]
| Around [[Sendoff Spring]]
| Always
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{gameabbrev3|BWB2W2}}
| [[Unova]]
| {{rt|12|Unova}}
| Usually
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{gameabbrev3|BWB2W2}}
| [[Unova]]
| [[Giant Chasm]] Entrance and Crater
| Always?
|- style="background:#FFF"
| {{gameabbrev3|BWB2W2}}
| [[Unova]]
| {{rt|14|Unova}}
| Usually
|-
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{gameabbrev3|BWB2W2}}
| style="background:#FFF" | [[Unova]]
| style="background:#FFF" | {{rt|15|Unova}}
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybr|5px}}" | Usually
|}

==Effects==
===In battle===
* Lowers the {{stat|Accuracy}} of all Pokémon battling by 10%.
* Doubles the power of {{m|Weather Ball}} (but does not change its type).
* Causes {{m|Moonlight}}, {{m|Synthesis}}, and {{m|Morning Sun}} to only recover ¼ of max HP.

===Outside of battle===
Fog makes the area difficult to see, especially obstacles and Trainers.

{{m|Sweet Scent}} and [[Honey]] will fail if there is non-aesthetic fog in the area.

==In the anime==
{{main|Defog (move)#In the anime|Defog (move) → In the anime}}

==In the manga==
{{main|Defog (move)#In the manga|Defog (move) → In the manga}}

==Appearance==
===In battle===
{{movegen
|type=Flying
|genIV=Fog DPPt
}}
[[File:Courtyard Fog.jpg|thumb|center|Fog in [[Pokémon Battle Revolution]]]]

===In the overworld===
{{movegen
|type=Flying
|genIII=Fog III Field
|genIV=Fog IV Field
|genV=Unova Route 15 Winter BW}}

==Trivia==
*Several lines of unused quotes for fog exist within the text for the Generation V and VI games.
:{| class="roundy" style="background:#{{flying color dark}}; border: 3px solid #{{flying color}}"
| style="background:#fff; {{roundytop|5px}}" | Fog crept up as thick as soup!
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | The fog lifted.
|}

{{-}}
{{weathernav|Flying}}

[[Category:Weather conditions]]

[[de:Wetter#Nebel]]
[[fr:Climat#Brouillard]]
[[it:Condizione meteorologica#Nebbia]]
[[ja:きり]]
[[pl:Warunki pogodowe#Mgła]]
[[zh:大雾（天气）]]

Defog (move)

2014-12-31T21:46:48Z

AndyPKMN: /* Out of battle */ Clarifying, since otherwise the distinction is only made on the linked page.

{{search|move Defog|the field move Demist|Field Move}}
----
{{MoveInfobox|
n=432 |
name=Defog |
jname=きりばらい |
jtrans=Fog Wipe |
jtranslit=Kiribarai |
gameimage=Defog.png |
gameimagewidth=300 |
type=Flying |
damagecategory=Status |
basepp=15 |
maxpp=24 |
power=— |
accuracy=— |
bdesc=The foe's Evasion is reduced and fog is cleared. Also blows away foes' Reflect and Light Screen. |
gen=IV |
category=Beauty |
appeal=2 |
jam=0 |
cdesc=Pokémon after self cannot raise any voltage in that turn |
appealsc=2 |
scdesc=Prevents the Voltage from going up in the same turn.|
category6=Cool|
appeal6=2 |
jam6=0 |
cdesc6=Works great if the user goes first this turn.|
pokefordex=Defog |
touches=no |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=yes |
snatch=no |
brightpowder=yes |
kingsrock=no |
flag7=no |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
field=yes|
hm4=yes|
hm#4=05|
na=no|
target=anyadjacent |
footnotes= }}
'''Defog''' (Japanese: '''きりばらい''' ''Fog Wipe'') is a non-damaging {{type|Flying}} [[move]], introduced in [[Generation IV]]. It is [[HM05]] in {{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}, moving the traditional HM05, {{m|Flash}}, to [[TM70]]. However, in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, it loses its HM status in favor of {{m|Whirlpool}}.

Defog cannot be used outside of battle without the {{badge|Fen}} in {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}} and the {{badge|Relic}} in {{v2|Platinum}}.

==Effect==
===In battle===
====Generation IV====
Defog lowers the target's {{stat|evasion}} one stage, even if the target is behind a {{m|substitute}}. It clears away [[fog]]. It also clears away {{m|Light Screen}}, {{m|Reflect}}, {{m|Safeguard}}, {{m|Mist}}, {{m|Spikes}}, {{m|Toxic Spikes}} and {{m|Stealth Rock}} present on the target's side of the field.

====Generation V====
Defog can now be reflected with {{m|Magic Coat}} and no longer lowers the evasion of a Pokémon behind a {{m|substitute}}.

====Generation VI====
Defog now clears away {{m|Safeguard}}, {{m|Mist}}, {{m|Spikes}}, {{m|Toxic Spikes}}, {{m|Stealth Rock}} and {{m|Sticky Web}} present on both sides of the field.
It will still only clear away {{m|Light Screen}} and {{m|Reflect}} from the target's side of the field, however.

===Out of battle===
In Generation IV, Defog clears away [[fog]] from the area. The effect lasts until the {{player}} leaves the area.

Defog has no effect on the purely aesthetic fog in Generations III, V, and VI.

==Description==
{{movedesc|Flying}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|DPPt}}|Obstacles are moved, reducing the foe’s evasion stat. It can also be used to clear deep fog, etc.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|HGSS}}|It reduces the foe’s evasion stat. It also removes spikes, light screens, etc.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|BWB2W2}}|A strong wind blows away the target's obstacles such as Reflect or Light Screen. It also lowers the target's evasiveness.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|XY}} {{gameabbrev3|ORAS}}|A strong wind blows away the target's barriers such as Reflect or Light Screen. This also lowers the target's evasiveness.}}
|}
|}{{left clear}}

==Learnset==
===By [[Level|leveling up]]===
{{Moveheader/Level|Flying|4}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|580|Ducklett|2|Water|Flying|no|6|6}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|581|Swanna|2|Water|Flying|no|--, 6|--, 6}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|627|Rufflet|2|Normal|Flying|no|32|32}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|628|Braviary|2|Normal|Flying|no|32|32}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|629|Vullaby|2|Dark|Flying|no|32|32}}
{{Moveentry/Level4|630|Mandibuzz|2|Dark|Flying|no|32|32}}
{{Movefooter|flying|4}}

===By [[HM]]===
{{Moveheader/TM|Flying|4|no|no|no|HM05|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|006|Charizard|2|Fire|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|012|Butterfree|2|Bug|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|015|Beedrill|2|Bug|Poison|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|016|Pidgey|2|Normal|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|017|Pidgeotto|2|Normal|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|018|Pidgeot|2|Normal|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|021|Spearow|2|Normal|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|022|Fearow|2|Normal|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|041|Zubat|2|Poison|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|042|Golbat|2|Poison|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|049|Venomoth|2|Bug|Poison|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|083|Farfetch'd|2|Normal|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|123|Scyther|2|Bug|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|142|Aerodactyl|2|Rock|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|144|Articuno|2|Ice|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|145|Zapdos|2|Electric|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|146|Moltres|2|Fire|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|149|Dragonite|2|Dragon|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|151|Mew|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|163|Hoothoot|2|Normal|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|164|Noctowl|2|Normal|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|169|Crobat|2|Poison|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|176|Togetic|2|Normal|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|178|Xatu|2|Psychic|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|193|Yanma|2|Bug|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|198|Murkrow|2|Dark|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|207|Gligar|2|Ground|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|212|Scizor|2|Bug|Steel|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|225|Delibird|2|Ice|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|226|Mantine|2|Water|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|227|Skarmory|2|Steel|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|249|Lugia|2|Psychic|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|250|Ho-Oh|2|Fire|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|267|Beautifly|2|Bug|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|269|Dustox|2|Bug|Poison|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|275|Shiftry|2|Grass|Dark|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|276|Taillow|2|Normal|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|277|Swellow|2|Normal|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|278|Wingull|2|Water|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|279|Pelipper|2|Water|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|284|Masquerain|2|Bug|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|291|Ninjask|2|Bug|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|329|Vibrava|2|Ground|Dragon|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|330|Flygon|2|Ground|Dragon|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|357|Tropius|2|Grass|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|373|Salamence|2|Dragon|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|380|Latias|2|Dragon|Psychic|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|381|Latios|2|Dragon|Psychic|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|393|Piplup|1|Water|Water|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|394|Prinplup|1|Water|Water|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|395|Empoleon|2|Water|Steel|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|396|Starly|2|Normal|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|397|Staravia|2|Normal|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|398|Staraptor|2|Normal|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|414|Mothim|2|Bug|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|416|Vespiquen|2|Bug|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|425|Drifloon|2|Ghost|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|426|Drifblim|2|Ghost|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|430|Honchkrow|2|Dark|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|434|Stunky|2|Poison|Dark|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|435|Skuntank|2|Poison|Dark|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|441|Chatot|2|Normal|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|456|Finneon|1|Water|Water|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|457|Lumineon|1|Water|Water|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|468|Togekiss|2|Normal|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|469|Yanmega|2|Bug|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|472|Gliscor|2|Ground|Flying|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM4|493|Arceus|1|Normal|Normal|yes|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Movefooter|Flying|4}}

===By {{pkmn|breeding}}===
{{Moveheader/Breed|Flying|4}}
{{Moveentry/Breed4|016|Pidgey|2|Normal|Flying|no|{{MSP|580|Ducklett}}{{MSP|581|Swanna}}{{MSP|627|Rufflet}}{{MSP|628|Braviary}}|{{MSP|580|Ducklett}}{{MSP|581|Swanna}}{{MSP|627|Rufflet}}{{MSP|628|Braviary}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed4|041|Zubat|2|Poison|Flying|no|{{MSP|580|Ducklett}}{{MSP|581|Swanna}}{{MSP|627|Rufflet}}{{MSP|628|Braviary}}|{{MSP|580|Ducklett}}{{MSP|581|Swanna}}{{MSP|627|Rufflet}}{{MSP|628|Braviary}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed4|123|Scyther|2|Bug|Flying|no|{{MSP|012|Butterfree}}{{MSP|015|Beedrill}}{{MSP|049|Venomoth}}{{MSP|123|Scyther}}{{MSP|212|Scizor}}{{MSP|193|Yanma}}{{MSP|469|Yanmega}}{{MSP|207|Gligar}}{{MSP|472|Gliscor}}{{MSP|267|Beautifly}}{{MSP|269|Dustox}}{{MSP|284|Masquerain}}{{MSP|291|Ninjask}}{{MSP|329|Vibrava}}{{MSP|330|Flygon}}{{MSP|414|Mothim}}|{{MSP|012|Butterfree}}{{MSP|015|Beedrill}}{{MSP|049|Venomoth}}{{MSP|123|Scyther}}{{MSP|212|Scizor}}{{MSP|193|Yanma}}{{MSP|469|Yanmega}}{{MSP|207|Gligar}}{{MSP|472|Gliscor}}{{MSP|267|Beautifly}}{{MSP|269|Dustox}}{{MSP|284|Masquerain}}{{MSP|291|Ninjask}}{{MSP|329|Vibrava}}{{MSP|330|Flygon}}{{MSP|414|Mothim}}|note=Breed from DPPt HM}}
{{Moveentry/Breed4|163|Hoothoot|2|Normal|Flying|no|{{MSP|580|Ducklett}}{{MSP|581|Swanna}}{{MSP|627|Rufflet}}{{MSP|628|Braviary}}|{{MSP|580|Ducklett}}{{MSP|581|Swanna}}{{MSP|627|Rufflet}}{{MSP|628|Braviary}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed4|273|Seedot|1|Grass|Grass|no|{{MSP|083|Farfetch'd}}{{MSP|225|Delibird}}{{MSP|275|Shiftry}}{{MSP|357|Tropius}}{{MSP|393|Piplup}}{{MSP|394|Prinplup}}{{MSP|395|Empoleon}}{{MSP|435|Skuntank}}|{{MSP|083|Farfetch'd}}{{MSP|225|Delibird}}{{MSP|275|Shiftry}}{{MSP|357|Tropius}}{{MSP|393|Piplup}}{{MSP|394|Prinplup}}{{MSP|395|Empoleon}}{{MSP|435|Skuntank}}|note=Breed from DPPt HM}}
{{Moveentry/Breed4|276|Taillow|2|Normal|Flying|no|{{MSP|580|Ducklett}}{{MSP|581|Swanna}}{{MSP|627|Rufflet}}{{MSP|628|Braviary}}|{{MSP|580|Ducklett}}{{MSP|581|Swanna}}{{MSP|627|Rufflet}}{{MSP|628|Braviary}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed4|425|Drifloon|2|Ghost|Flying|no|{{MSP|425|Drifloon}}{{MSP|426|Drifblim}}|{{MSP|425|Drifloon}}{{MSP|426|Drifblim}}|note=Breed from DPPt HM}}
{{Moveentry/Breed4|441|Chatot|2|Normal|Flying|no|{{MSP|580|Ducklett}}{{MSP|581|Swanna}}{{MSP|627|Rufflet}}{{MSP|628|Braviary}}|{{MSP|580|Ducklett}}{{MSP|581|Swanna}}{{MSP|627|Rufflet}}{{MSP|628|Braviary}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed4|566|Archen|2|Rock|Flying|no|{{MSP|580|Ducklett}}{{MSP|581|Swanna}}{{MSP|627|Rufflet}}{{MSP|628|Braviary}}|{{MSP|580|Ducklett}}{{MSP|581|Swanna}}{{MSP|627|Rufflet}}{{MSP|628|Braviary}}}}
{{Movefooter|Flying|4}}

==In the anime==
{{moveanime|type=flying|gen=Obstacles are moved, reducing the foe's evasion stat. It can also be used to clear deep fog, etc.|image1=Allegra Honchkrow Defog.png|image1p=Honchkrow|image2=Allegra Honchkrow Defog discs.png|image2p=Going for target|image3=Allegra Honchkrow Defog charge.png|image3p=Outlined wings|image4=Officer Jenny Swanna Defog.png|image4p=Swanna}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=430|pkmn=Honchkrow|method=Honchkrow's wings become outlined in light blue. The outline disappears as it releases multiple light blue crescents by flapping its wings. Its wings then become outlined again as the crescents go for the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Allegra|user1=Allegra's Honchkrow|startcode=M10|startname=The Rise of Darkrai|notes=Debut}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=581|pkmn=Swanna|method=Swanna flaps its wings and releases a wind with multiple clear white energy crescents inside it at the opponent.}}
{{movebtm|type=flying|user=Officer Jenny|user1=Officer Jenny's Swanna|startcode=BW021|startname=The Lost World of Gothitelle!}}

==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
{{movemanga|type=flying|exp=yes|gen=The user clears fog with air.|image1=Cyrus Honchkrow Defog Adventures.png|image1p=Honchkrow}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=430|pkmn=Honchkrow|method=Honchkrow waves one of its wings, causing multiple waves of wind to come out and cut away any fog in the area.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=flying|user=Cyrus|user1=Cyrus's Honchkrow|startcode=PS370|startname=Problematic Probopass & Mad Magnezone III|notes=Debut}}

===In the Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure! manga===
{{movemanga|type=flying|exp=yes|gen=The user clears fog by blowing it away.|image1=Hareta Empoleon Defog.png}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=395|pkmn=Empoleon|method=Empoleon blows away fog by waving its arms swiftly.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Hareta's Empoleon|startcode=DPA33|startname=The Birth of the Greatest Tag Team?!|notes=Debut}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=149|pkmn=Dragonite|method=Dragonite blows away fog.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=flying|user=Jun (DPA)|user1=Jun's Dragonite|startcode=DPA35|startname=Enter the Distortion World!}}

==In other generations==
===In battle===
{{Movegen|
type=flying|
genIV=Defog IV|
genV=Defog V|
}}

===Outside of battle===
{{Movegen|
type=flying|
genIV=Defog IV OW|
}}

==Trivia==
* The Bag sprite for the HM containing Defog is mistakenly that of a {{type|Water}} HM, rather than a {{type|Flying}} one.
* Like {{m|Flash}} was in Generations {{gen|I}}, {{gen|II}}, and {{gen|III}}, Defog is not critical to the completion of the game, as a player can traverse foggy areas without using the move. However, unlike with dark caves requiring Flash to light them, foggy areas affect battles within them.
* In the anime, Ash sometimes uses his {{AP|Pidgeotto}}'s and {{AP|Unfezant}}'s {{m|Gust}} and his {{AP|Noctowl}}'s {{m|Whirlwind}} in a similar manner.
* If a player teaches a Pokémon Defog by HM in {{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} and trades it to HeartGold or SoulSilver, the Pokémon can be freely imported to {{2v2|Black|White}} via the [[Poké Transfer]], due to Defog not being needed outside of battle in HeartGold and SoulSilver. The same can be done with {{m|Whirlpool}} by transferring a Pokémon that learned it by HM in HeartGold or SoulSilver to Diamond, Pearl, or Platinum.

==In other languages==
{{Langtable|color={{flying color}}|bordercolor={{flying color light}}
|zh_cmn=清除濃霧 ''{{tt|Qīngchú Nóngwù|Clear Fog}}''
|nl=Ontmist
|fr=Anti-Brume
|de=Auflockern
|el=Απονέφωση
|id=Singkirkan Kabut
|it=Scacciabruma
|ko=안개제거 ''Angaejegeo''
|pt_eu=Desanuviar
|pt_br=Desneblinar
|es_la= Quita Nieblas ([[M10]]) Desempañar ([[BW021]])
|es_eu=Despejar}}
{{-}}
{{Generation IV TMs}}
{{-}}
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}

[[Category:Generation IV HM moves]]
[[Category:Moves that can lower the target's evasion]]

[[de:Auflockern]]
[[fr:Anti-Brume]]
[[it:Scacciabruma (mossa)]]
[[ja:きりばらい]]
[[pl:Defog]]
[[pt:Defog]]
[[zh:清除浓雾（技能）]]

Bulbapedia talk:Project Music

2014-12-25T02:03:04Z

AndyPKMN:

==Starting out==
OK, welcome aboard, everyone... So far we're not a lot of users, but hopefully more will join soon (after all, this project isn't even up for a full 24 hours).

I finished (with a little help from CoolPikachu!) putting the notice templates on all related pages (hopefully I haven't missed any).

The next thing we need to do, as I see it, is fugure out ''what is the perfect song article?''. What is our article structure? Let's focus on songs for now, and then move to CDs. Thoughts? --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 10:15, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

:Right now everything's good some clean-up and some other things but yea we're good--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 10:22, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

::Good is a relative term... The articles aren't all in the same format, and many of them are stubs. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 11:12, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

What's the format for Japanese song titles? I noticed we don't translate Haruka, Hikari, and Takeshi for their theme songs, but we do translate names of Pokémon such as for Riding on Lapras or Meowth's Song. However, there are other song articles like Big Nyarth's Day that don't translate the Pokémon species to the English species. What consistency are we using? Are we only translating Pokémon species, but not Human characters? Should everything be translated to the English version? Or, should names always be left in the Japanese version. This is important for consistency in article titles. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 23:37, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

:You're right. We're inconsistent. I never noticed that. Any of our resident sysops like to solve this for us? --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''zz''']] 00:25, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

::OK, since 2 of our resident admins are currently away and the third isn't responding, I'll make my first "leader decision" without any admin advice, but if anyone thinks differently just say so. What we'll do is this: for human characters, we'll use their Japanese names (Haruka, Hikari, Takeshi), and for Pokémon we'll use the English names. That means the only article that currently needs changing is [[Big Nyarth Day]]. I'll take care of that. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''zz''']] 08:31, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

:::I like the idea. It has always been a pet peeve of sorts about the song names. Sorry, I was very distracted yesterday and still am until all those pages are made for my project. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 12:32, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

== What bothers me in Music Articles. ==

I'm sick of those stupid, unneccessary and often irrelevant piped links in the song texts in song articles. Am I the only one who thinks we should eradicate them? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 12:13, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

:Actually, I strongly disagree. Most of the are very relevant, and they make the already-usually-stubbish-pages look less black and empty of content... If the lyrics refer to a specific topic in the franchise, why not link to it? --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 12:52, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
::I have to agree with ElectAbuzzzz [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 13:33, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Maybe because they really don't refer to any topic in franchise? Most of them are purely overinterpretated. I hate such overinterpretations. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 13:45, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Then let's seperate the "direct references" from "overinterpretations". Give me an example - what do you consider overinterpretation? --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 13:53, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

== External Linking To Songs ==

If you can find a link to a song, you should put in at the end of the page under "External Links". TTE encourages linking to openings and endings, so I think the same should apply here. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 13:47, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
:Oh, and I guess I should let you know I joined the project! [[Is It Summer?|I've made]] [[10th Anniversary Movie Pocket Monsters Diamond & Pearl: Dialga vs. Palkia vs. Darkrai Music Collection|a few]] [[Kaze no Message (CD)|articles]] on music stuff before, so, yeah. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 13:51, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
::Are there any English openings that can be linked to that are similar to the Japanese themes, ones that are not YouTube? [[User:Rockersk08|rockersk08]] 18:13, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

== It Takes Two ==

I was told [[Talk:Veronica Taylor|here]] a while back that there was a song called "It Takes Two" in a commercial to help promote the Ruby and Sapphire games and double-battles performed by Veronica Taylor and Rachael Lillis as Ash and Misty. I'm not an American so I never heard of it. Does anyone have anything about this song, so that we could create an article about it? --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''zz''']] 12:04, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

:I've got the song. According to Talk:Veronica Taylor, PPN used to have it, but it was lost. But there's a youtube video of it, and the song is acquirable. I have the mp3, but it's not an official mp3 because it wasn't ever released. It would be great if we could get a page on the song though. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 04:21, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey guys! I have an update on this! Yes, a video of "It Takes Two" does exist, but it would be very difficult for anyone to find. According to PPN, this commercial was only aired 2 or 3 times on KidsWB (and it wasn't aired during Pokemon). Also, I have some more information. I met Veronica Taylor this month at New York Comic Con, and I asked her about the song "It Takes Two". However, when I asked her about it, she seemed kinda surprised. She told me that the song was actually an '''in-house production''' and, that she didn't know how I could've heard it. So anyway, I guess this means someone who works at 4Kids (or at the studio) must've leaked this song to the public after it was produced. Wow! That's awesome! O.O --[[User:PokemonTrainerLisa|PokemonTrainerLisa]] 08:03, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== Trade Please ==

On the trivia section of [[DP055]], it says "Jessie says the title of the song とりかえっこプリーズ Trade Please." with a link to Trade Please. Is "Trade Please" a song in the anime? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:34, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
:Never mind. I found that it meant [[Torikaekko Please]]. Why that page title isn't in English is beyond me. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:38, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

== Joining the Project ==

I'd like to join the project; I'm not too fond of the forums though. But I've been doing a major fix up of couple of songs, and I made the page for Together with the Wind, and I'd like to do what I can to help the project. It's something I've been fond of for a long time now, and I think I could help in this not-too-much-attention-getting-field. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 04:13, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
:Welcome aboard. You can start by helping me fill in the blanks in the newly created [[It Takes Two]]. Lillis wasn't very clear on some lines... Then again, maybe it's just my not-native ear. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''zz''']] 09:37, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
I'd also like to join the project; I love Pokemon music. I can help with High Touch! and Surely Tomorrow lyrics for starters, and maybe a few other things as well. I'm glad this project exists and I can't wait to get started! [[User:Pikachugal|Pikachugal]] 20:01, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I'd also like to join the project. I've been doing some fix ups on a couple of songs. So.. I'd like to know how I can help in the project. '''[[User:Lance123|Lance]][[User talk:Lance123|123]]''' 13:30, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

== Game Music ==

I know a lot of this project covers the vocalized music produced as promotional material for the anime and other related Pokémon franchises, but does this project also cover the instrumental tracks used in the games? I don't mean individual pages for each track, but perhaps a section on the music of one generation and in what ways it has been remixed on the Stadiums and in the anime? -[[User:K2JMan|K2JMan]] 03:14, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

I think that would be a good idea. Some of the tracks of video game music have certainly had quite a bit of influence. Since this project also covers CD's and musicians, I think that the video game music would need to be covered in more detail than it has so far. it would have be selective though. [[User:Sacrifice|Sacrifice]] 22:29, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

:OK, I know it's been forever, but I'm thinking on finally acting on that suggestion. We already have articles about CDs containing game music. Anyone had any ideas how we can do more in that area? --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''אלקטבאזז''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''ז''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''ז''']] 18:24, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
::I don't know if this is necroposting, but I'd focus on ''categories'' of VGM rather than specific songs. Like, an article on Wild Battle themes, Trainer Battle themes, Route themes, etc. --[[User:Lilfut|Lilfut]] ([[User talk:Lilfut|talk]]) 16:31, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

== New member! ♪ ==

Hello all! May I joibn the project? I've been editing a bunch of lesser-known song pages (Kaze to Isso ni, Mamoru beki mono, yume miru lovely boy, etc..) so I thought I might as well try to join this project. Is that okay? I can find the kanji and english translations for a lot of songs, as well as some stuff like composers and whatnot. --[[User:Snowrunt|Snowrunt]] [[User talk:Snowrunt|♥]] [[Special:Contributions/Snowrunt|♥]] 18:40, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:Absolutely, welcome aboard. Just add your name to the list. Take a look at our [[Bulbapedia:Project Music/To-do list|2DO list]] to see what needs to be done. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''zz''']] 19:41, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== YouTube links ==

OK, there's been some confusion regarding this subject, so I'll clear things up: yes, we used to encouraged YouTube links to song videos. Yes, the rules changed. I just talked to {{u|MAGNEDETH}} - no more YouTube links are allowed, unless they link to [http://www.youtube.com/user/Bulbagarden the official BMG channel], or one of our affiliates. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''zz''']] 21:33, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

== Ideas?Conclusions? or what ==

How can we expand the articles of the song that is stub like this one [[Brother My Brother]]? Any one's conclusion or something... cause i found out that almost all of the song articles were stub so i think we should make a move♪"[[Sceptile (Pokémon)|☆]][[User:AngelGuardian|Angel]][[User talk:AngelGuardian|Guardian]][[Brendan (game)|☆]]" 08:48, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
:What do you mean "conclusion"? There's not much to put there, and that's the nature of song articles. You could put a small section about the song's relevance to the movie - but that would work for this song, not for all songs. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 14:42, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

== lyrics ♪ ==

When adding in lyrics for Japanese songs (or any song, I suppose), do we have two lyrics sections, one for the TV edit and one for the full lyrics? Or is it preferred to use only the full lyrics? --[[User:Snowrunt|'''ℓaℓa''']] [[Special:Contributions/Snowrunt|ℓe]] [[User talk:Snowrunt|'''snoωrunt''']] 16:48, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:If the lyrics are different, like in ''[[We Will Be Heroes]]'', we have two sections. If just extra lyrics were added to the original, like in ''[[Born to Be a Winner]]'', we just use the full version. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 17:23, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

== So here's a question: ==

I have a 2.B.A. Master piano book. It has all the songs from the CD in piano sheet format. I thought that it might be something to add to Bulbapedia, but where, exactly? Would it go under music? I'm not sure how to go about that. --The [[Special:Contributions/Snowrunt|ωild]] [[User:Snowrunt|'''Snoωrunt''']] [[User talk:Snowrunt|'''fled!''']] 16:48, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
:That's a very interesting idea. I like it. Not sure on the ''how'', though. I'll look into it. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 17:02, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
:I'd love to have sheet music for those song. Just scan the pages and save them as pictures. [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 23:02, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
::Speaking of piano sheet music, I just grabbed my "Boku no Best Friend e" single to work on the lyrics and rediscovered that it comes with sheet music (for TV size). Any interest in that, too? Once the "how" is figured out, at least... :3 [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 02:05, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
:::The main question would be the legality of it. It would likely be illegal to publish (yes, that's what we would be doing) this music on the internet. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:41, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Ooh yeah, that's true. (Durh.) You can't even photocopy that stuff for educational use (or you can only make a certain number of photocopies, or whatever). We're probably best off avoiding the sheet music altogether, then. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 05:40, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::I think it's at least worth a mention that it was released as a piano book, though. I know recorder sheet music is also out there, too. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:41, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::Maybe its own article, then? Just like all the other books that approximately three people bought that have articles. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 05:44, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I think that this might be better off as a subsection of the {{pkmn|2.B.A. Master}} article considering it's the same music, but I don't have the final say. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:46, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I know there's a piano book out there (I've attempted to play some of the pieces, to varying degrees of success :P), so what we do is give it an article with a song listing. Then, on each of those song pages note that it was released as part of ''Pokémon Song Anthology'' or whatever. If it's just one song, then a small note with a picture of the cover art would be nice. On a side note, I'm going to search Amazon. I wonder how much the recorder arrangements would set me back... ;D —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:01, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
(resetting indent) Now, I was going to write an article about this piano book, but... it doesn't seem to have any title other than "Pokémon 2.B.A. Master". D: So should I just put it at "Pokémon 2.B.A. Master (piano book)" or what? [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:19, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
:(book) shall be fine. That way we can still use the link template :D —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:54, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
::Just to put it on the record, I meant to add an article for the book in the first place, not actually scan the sheets. ^^; What information do you need? I have the book right here. --The [[Special:Contributions/Snowrunt|ωild]] [[User:Snowrunt|'''Snoωrunt''']] [[User talk:Snowrunt|'''fled!''']] 06:06, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
:[[Pokémon 2.B.A. Master (book)|Article is right here]]. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:41, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

== Suggestion ==

If it hasn't alredy been done.A article on the orchestral and the music you can heard throughout the anime.Such as the music in [[EP001|episode one]] when the spearow attacked Ash and pickachu.
--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 08:59, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:IF you can make a good page, it might be worth a shot. Make it in your userspace and we'll see. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 10:16, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
cool.I started it under Solidstate/Sandbox music.How could I link it to my userpage under sandbox as well as the other one that is in the works.As it just goes to my first sandbox.Thanks--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 03:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

== Uploading Music ==

I was wondering if I should join the project and upload music. But i can't. Does anyone know why? If it is the case with everyone, shouldn't an admin re-do the entire archives so you CAN upload Mp3 files? [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 14:55, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
:Copyright violation. Major. No. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 19:20, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
::What if they are in the public domain? Like the ones I was trying to upload. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:50, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Please enlighten me as to what Pokemon music is in the public domain. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 17:54, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Lugia's Song. If played on the piano by fans (like me) [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:58, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::(it's on youtube 2,000 times over!) [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:58, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::We won't upload fan stuff here. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 18:21, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

==I can't think of a better place to ask...==
...but why does Ice Cream Syndrome, the song that's going to accompany the Zoroark movie, not have a page on the 'pedia yet?--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 16:34, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:Because I haven't gotten around to it yet. It's on my to-do list. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 18:04, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

== Missing Movie 1 soundtrack ==

I'm puzzled why there's no article for the soundtrack of [[Movie 1]], "サウンドピクチャーボックス
ミュウツーの誕生." I first found about it from [http://pokemonrepository.no-ip.com/albums/myuutsunotanjou.html a page on an old website] called [http://pokemonrepository.no-ip.com| Pocket Monsters Repository], and it indeed has [http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/サウンドピクチャーボックス_ミュウツーの誕生 an article on Wikipedia of Japan]. It is a little treasure, with more than two dozen music pieces, many of which were often used in the anime.

I want to make a new article for the soundtrack, but it seems really weird to me that ''no one'' has made an article for this yet, when every single other CD impressively seems to be catalogued here in Bulbapedia. Complicating things is that [[The Birth of Mewtwo]] story already has an article, and it was released on a CD along with Movie 1's soundtrack (I don't know if the radio drama was sold in the same product as the soundtrack). What ought I to do?

[[User:Redletterday|Redletterday]] 01:06, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
:Definitely make the article. It's just an old one that was forgotten. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 09:26, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

== Japanese AND Romaji Split? ==

I've noticed that on the Japanese songs, there is nothing set at the moment regarding romaji. For example, on [[Fanfare of the Heart]], or [[Together]]'s full version, there is a table with the Japanese, the romaji, and then the translation. However, on songs like [[In Your Heart, LaLaLa]] and [[High Touch!]] there is Japanese with mouse-over romaji, with the translation next to it. 
Since I'm utterly hopeless at learning to read the characters myself (especially Kanji, which I'm all but guaranteed to never learn), yet I enjoy listening to (and often memorizing) the songs, it would be convenient if the romaji were ''always'' in a separate column, so that when listening to the song on, say, YouTube, it would be easier to see the next line than to constantly have to move the mouse to the next line and wait for it to show up -- especially for songs like [[Ice Cream Syndrome]], which go by so fast that the line is literally over before the transliteration shows up. If the consensus gives me the OK, I'll spend a few hours one of these days going through the Japanese songs and changing them all, but if someone mentions a good reason why I shouldn't, then I won't. It's just one of those things that bugs me. [[User:JoeMoron2000|JoeMoron2000]] 22:46, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

== Coding ==

How do we code the Japanese Romanazations to go under the Japanese kana?--99pokemon [[User_talk:99pokemon|talk]] 00:57, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
:You mean when it appears {{tt|like this|like this}}? [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 01:37, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

== Other languages ==

Would it be too much to make pages that contain the lyrics of the songs in the other languages? I could try to do Chinese,but I really don't know if we can do it. Sorry if it is too much.--99pokemon [[User_talk:99pokemon|talk]] 01:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
:Are these for different songs or just translations of existing songs? If it's a song that only appears in, say, Chinese, then yes, but if it's just the same song as before but with Chinese lyrics then probably not. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 01:37, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
::There aren't any Chinese songs in the Taiwanese dub and mainland redub, since they just subtitled the Japanese themes. As for the original mainland dub, I don't have a clue. However, there are some Cantonese songs, although two of them has the same melody as [[Aim to be a Pokémon Master]] and [[Advance Adventure]], but are not translations. Here are two ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8wLqoOOTJg&feature=related 1], [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeFFccUVuoY 3]) that are original (Cantonese). --'''神智の[[User:神奇超龍|超龍]]「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|對話]]'''」''' 11:28, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

== Question==

What is the definition of a Music Stub? I've seen many music articles that look complete that still have a stub tag on them. Like [[The Power of One (song)]]. Since this is not my area of knowledge I wanted to know if anything was missing before I removed stub notices from them. Thanks! [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 14:28, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

== CD or single? ==

I think the project's article should cover a topic that what is considered a CD and what's considered a single. I've seen similar releases in both different categories. For example, how many songs it can contain to be considered a single and how many songs it can contain to be considered a CD. This confused me a bit. [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 17:06, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

== I translated something... ==

I went and translated (and romanized and prettied up and everything) the lyrics for [[Can You Name All the Pokémon, Baby?]]. I removed the MissingLyrics template since I did that, but I'm not sure if it needed confirmation or anything - maybe an okay from someone on the translation - before I did that unilaterally, so I wanted to write here to make sure (hopefully?) someone was aware of that. I also took out the "incomplete" template, but left the stub template, noting that [[Can You Name All the Pokémon?]] has pretty much the exact same information and is considered a "complete" stub, so I think, with the update I gave it, Can You Name All the Pokémon, Baby? is as well now. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:31, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

==Korean theme names==
Nice page here Zesty Cactus!

I see that you've added completing Korean themes on your to-do list (I should really get round to doing some more!). Just noting to you that I'm unsure about some of the title names. The opening theme 웃어봐 is translated as "Smile", which is ''OK'' (seems good from reading the context of the lyrics of the song), but I think the title 함께 가는길 (currently translated as "Along the Way") is better worded as "Together Along the Way". Of course this is only my thought, and when I have changed the names in the past my edits were changed again, which means others may not agree with my translation.

Just thought it would be better to settle on a correct title before making the pages.--[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(Talk)''']] 12:19, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
:Ah, I just copied the page names from the lists of Korean opening and ending themes. To me, you're the expert lol ^^' I don't have a problem with the change if you feel it's a more accurate translation, but I suppose you'd have to take that up with the other users who can translate Korean. :P give me a shout if there are any problems I guess, haha. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 02:32, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

== I Want To Be Part of this Project ==

I want to be a part of this project. Let me know where I can start! [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|WATER]][[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|Warrior]]67 07:58, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

== Google Translations okay? ==

I have to know. I understand a variety of languages, but I usually have to use Google translate. If I translate it (typing in the language I want) and somehow manage to submit it (seriously, I'm still navigating around here!) I would love to help. Let me know! [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|WATER]][[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|Warrior]]67 22:40, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
:Google Translate can be quite inaccurate, so no.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:56, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
:: Okay. [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|WATER]][[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|Warrior]]67 22:53, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

== Adding Music to Other Pages ==

I figured it would be worthwhile to ask this here, even though it applies to more than just music pages.

Basically, does anyone think it would be worthwhile to incorporate the names of music tracks (along with links to the track listing of their respective soundtrack) for general pages on the wiki? Examples would be including the name of the background music for individual Routes in their respective infoboxes, or including the names of encounter music in the infoboxes for Trainer Classes in the infoboxes for those pages. I feel that would be especially informative for things like music that is used for multiple Routes, since the name of the track usually only corresponds to the first location to use that track.

It'd be a fairly massive undertaking but I think it'd make for a great improvement, without the legal risk that comes with hosting or linking the music itself on the wiki. —[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 02:03, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Berry Blender

2014-12-25T01:45:42Z

AndyPKMN: A start to adding Gen VI info. Still needs to go into detail in the main body of the article.

[[File:Berry Blender.png|thumb|right|The Berry Blender in {{2v2|Ruby|Sapphire}}]]
The '''Berry Blender''' is a device found in {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}. It blends {{Berries}} to make [[Pokéblock]]s, a treat that raises a {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}'s condition for {{pkmn|Contest}}s. To use it, a {{key|III|Pokéblock Case}} is required, as is a Berry and a person to blend with. It is located in the [[Contest Hall]].

There are two Berry Blenders in each of the four Contest Halls in Ruby and Sapphire. One of the two Berry Blenders allows Berries to be blended with friends through a link cable. The other will have one or more [[non-player character|NPCs]] standing around it. They will blend Berries if there is no one else available. In Emerald, there are four Berry Blenders in the Contest Hall of [[Lilycove City]]; one allows Berries to be blended with friends through a link cable. The other three have one to three NPCs. The Pokéblock produced is based on the Berry the Trainer uses. For example, a [[Cheri Berry]] which has a Spicy and Cool tag will produce a Spicy and Cool Pokéblock.

Also in Emerald, once the player triggers a certain event on {{ho|Pokémon News}}, the machine with one NPC will allow the player to blend Berries with the [[Blend Master]] instead of the NPC that's normally there.

In [[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire]], the classic Berry Blenders in Contest Halls are non-functional, and a replica can be obtained as a [[Decoration]] for Secret Bases at the Contest Hall in [[Lavaridge Town]]. Pokéblocks are instead made using a portable Berry Blender that is part of the [[List_of_key_items_in_Generation_VI#Pokéblock Kit|Pokéblock Kit]].

==Making Pokéblocks==
[[File:Berry Blender anime.png|thumb|left|A Berry Blender in the anime]]
===Blending===
To make Pokéblocks, simply select a Berry and put it in the Berry Blender. To properly blend Berries, the A button must be pressed when the arrow attached to the disk in the center of the machine points to the station arrow controlled by the player. One of three indicators will appear which show how well-timed the button press was:

* A red target-like circle is the equivalent of 'Perfect', and gives a large speed boost.
* A red circle is the equivalent of 'Good' and gives a smaller speed boost.
* A blue X is the equivalent of 'Miss', and results in the slowing of the blender.

It is important to note that the faster the blender is spinning, the lower the speed bonus when a red circle appears. Once the blender reaches a certain speed around 100 rpm, the red circle will simply bring the blender up to an equilibrium point.
It may also be important to note that the blender slows down by itself. The faster the blender is spinning, the more quickly it will slow down.
The bar on the top of the blender shows how much time is left before the blending session is finished. The number on the bottom shows the speed of the blender, in revolutions per minute.
[[File:Blend Results.png|thumb|right|Results of the blending]]

===Results===
At the end of the blending, the results are displayed. The list of participants is displayed in order of quality hits. The order is as following: The one who scored the most red target-like circles wins. If the number of red-target circles is even, then the one with the most red circles will win. If that number is even as well, then the one with the least blue crosses wins. The individual results are the number of hits each player obtained. The Berries used, the maximum speed, and the required time are factors in the resulting Pokéblock.

==See also==
* [[Pokéblock]]
* [[Berry Crush]]

{{Project Games notice|game mechanic}}
[[Category:Game mechanics]]
[[Category:Pokémon Contests]]
[[Category:Berry minigames]]

Talk:Time Capsule

2014-12-25T01:32:10Z

AndyPKMN: /* Held item list? */

What are the chances to get a Shiny Pokemon via Time Capsule? Because I got a Shiny Shroomish by trade, and the location on its summary page said something like "This Pokemon arrived from Hoenn, after a long travel through time" Could someone fill me in? --[[User:YatzSliversword|YatzSliversword]] ([[User talk:YatzSliversword|talk]]) 17:25, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
:You are confusing the Time Capsule with [[Pal Park]]. [[User:SatoMew2|Sato]][[User talk:SatoMew2|Mew]] 23:55, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

==Dongle==
Is [[Dongle method]] an appropriate link? It's Pal Park, not Time Capsule, which requires it. posted by [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 13:36, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

== Moves ==

Is it possible to trade Pokemon from G/S/C to R/B who have learned moves in G/S/C that are available in Generation I but are unable to learn them in R/B? For example, if a Starmie learned Confuse Ray in Gold, would I be able to trade it back to Red although it can't learn Confuse Ray in Red?

:Yes, any move that exists in [[Generation I]] can be traded back from [[Generation II]] to Generation I, just as long as it's on a Generation I Pokémon and that Pokémon doesn't know any Generation II moves.

:The Time Capsule only checks for Generation II Pokémon, and then Generation II moves. If your party has none of that, you can enter the Time Capsule, even if the only method for a Pokémon to learn a Generation I-origin move is in Generation II (i.e. elemental punches on Alakazam). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:37, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

:: I recall someone back in the day with a Level 5 Bulbasaur with Petal Dance, which he bred on G/S/C and traded back to R/B/Y. --[[User:JDigital|JDigital]] 07:14, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Yes, that would work as Petal Dance is a Generation I move, although Bulbasaur can only learn it in Generation II. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 07:17, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

== What about apricorn balls ==

What happens if you trade a pokemon in one of the apricorn balls to the generation I games? Would they just change into regular pokeballs? {{unsigned|Blazaking}}
:Back then, PokéBalls didn't have any differences when a Pokémon appeared on the battle field. Different animations, as well as a picture of the PokéBall you captured your Pokémon with, wasn't available until Generation III. The only differences in Generation II they had was that they would be different colors when thrown at a Pokémon. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 07:04, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
This wouldn't be a problem as in Gen I Pokemon couldn't hold items anyways... Zendude 17:23, Nov 10 2009

== When exactly available? (G,S) ==

I've met Bill inside the Pokemon Center of Ecruteak City, he is now back again in Goldenrod City but i still can't use the Time Capsule.
It still says that it's under repair o.o [[User:OMG|OMG]] 02:59, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
:You have to wait until past midnight :) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:08, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

== Tradebacks and held items ==

Now, I know most GSC batteries are dead by now and King's Rocks are a pain to get in those games anyway, but what would happen if you, theoretically, traded a Slowpoke from Generation II back to Generation I while it was holding a King's Rock, then immediately traded back? Would it become a Slowking in GSC and thus be able to be traded as a glitch Pokémon back to Generation I? After all, the Time Capsule doesn't prevent a Gen I trade-evolution Pokémon like Graveler from learning Rollout after it evolves into Golem if it's traded at level 31, thus leading to a glitch move being usable if it is traded back immediately... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:54, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
:I just did it. Nothing happens. Slowpoke doesn't evolve. --'''''[[User:Dr. James|Dr. James]]''''' ([[User talk:Dr. James|tell me]]) 02:29, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
::It even shouldn't work, as Pokémon didn't held items back in Gen I. The item probably got erased in the process, didn't it? Thus Slowpoke had no reason to evolve... --[[User:TakeruDavis|TakeruDavis]][[:a:File:TakeruDavis.gif|[1]]] 15:21, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
:::They don't. How else you can get {{DL|Stat-enhancing item|Light Ball}} in Generation II, than by trading the starter Pikachu from Yellow? [[Held item|Also]], "''This capability was first introduced in Generation II; however, when a Pokémon obtained in Generation I is traded to a Generation II game through the Time Capsule, it may be holding an item, such as a TM09 held by an Abra. Likewise, items held by Pokémon traded to Generation I will not be lost. ''" [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 15:33, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

== Held item list? ==

Is there a list of items which Pokémon traded from Generation I can be holding? The closest I found was on the [[Catch Rate]] page, but that only lists the four items available specifically by trading up from Yellow (and not things like TMs or the like). I think if there is such a list it should either be included on this page or linked from it. —[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 18:06, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
:[[List of Pokémon by wild held item (Generation II)]]. [[User:Glik|glik]][[User talk:Glik|glak]] 18:11, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks, I couldn't find it! But the question remains—should that page be linked from this one in the part where it discusses held items? I think it'd certainly help.—[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 01:32, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Time Capsule

2014-12-24T18:06:03Z

AndyPKMN:

Ice (type)

2014-12-23T17:31:48Z

AndyPKMN: /* Contest properties */

{{types}}
The '''Ice type''' (Japanese: '''こおりタイプ''' ''Ice type'') is one of the eighteen [[type]]s. Notable Trainers who specialize in Ice-type Pokémon are [[Lorelei]] of the [[Kanto]] [[Elite Four]], [[Pryce]] of [[Mahogany Town]], [[Glacia]] of the [[Hoenn]] Elite Four, [[Candice]] of [[Snowpoint City]], [[Brycen]] of [[Icirrus City]], and [[Wulfric]] of [[Snowbelle City]]. Prior to [[Generation IV#Advances in gameplay|changes in Generation IV]], all Ice-type moves were [[special move|special]], but they may now also be [[physical move|physical]] depending on the attack.

==Statistical averages==
===Overall===
{{BaseStatNoCat|
type=ice |
HP=73.93 |
Attack=75.13 |
Defense=71.57 |
SpAtk=79.13 |
SpDef=80.23 |
Speed=69.60 |
Total=449.60 }}

===Fully evolved===
{{BaseStatNoCat|
type=ice|
HP=81.89 |
Attack=83.26 |
Defense=83.26 |
SpAtk=90.37 |
SpDef=93.26 |
Speed=79.21 |
Total=511.26 }}


==Battle properties==
===Generation I===
{{typebattle
|type=Ice
|weakto1=Fighting
|weakto2=Fire
|weakto3=Rock
|resist1=Ice
|weaken1=Dragon
|weaken2=Flying
|weaken3=Grass
|weaken4=Ground
|resisted1=Ice
|resisted2=Water
}}

===Generation II onwards===
Ice-type Pokémon are immune to {{weather|Hail}} weather damage.

Starting in [[Generation IV]], Ice-type Pokémon are immune to the {{status|Frozen}} [[status condition]].

{{typebattle
|type=Ice
|weakto1=Fighting
|weakto2=Fire
|weakto3=Rock
|weakto4=Steel
|resist1=Ice
|weaken1=Dragon
|weaken2=Flying
|weaken3=Grass
|weaken4=Ground
|resisted1=Fire
|resisted2=Ice
|resisted3=Steel
|resisted4=Water
}}

==Characteristics==
===Defense===
The Ice type is considered by many to be the worst of all types defensively. It only resists itself and is immune to [[Freeze (status ailment)|freezing]], while carrying weaknesses to {{t|Fire}}, {{t|Fighting}}, {{t|Rock}} and {{t|Steel}}, making it weak to moves such as {{m|Stealth Rock}}, {{m|Bullet Punch}} and {{m|Fire Blast}}. Their sole resistance is nullified by {{p|Swinub|the}} {{p|Piloswine|Swinub}} {{p|Mamoswine|line's}} {{t|Ground}}, {{p|Articuno}}'s and {{p|Delibird}}'s {{t|Flying}}, {{p|Snover|The}} {{p|Abomasnow|Snover}} line's {{t|Grass}}, and {{p|Kyurem}}'s Dragon. Even with a second type, all but two Ice-type Pokémon—{{p|Froslass}} and {{p|Rotom|Frost Rotom}}—have more weaknesses than resistances and immunities, and certain Ice-type Pokémon such as Articuno, Delibird, the Snover line, and the Amaura line have at least one double weakness.

===Offense===
Offensive-wise, because only two non-Ice types ({{p|Empoleon}} and {{p|Heatran}}, which are both {{t|Steel}} types), doubly resist Ice, and the fact that double weaknesses to Ice are fairly common (largely due to {{t|Dragon}} types, whose final forms are often doubly weak), Ice is, along with {{t|Ground}}, {{t|Fighting}}, {{t|Rock}} and {{t|Fire}}, one of the most commonly used attacking types. Ice also pairs well with other common attacking types, notably {{t|Ground}} and {{t|Electric}}. {{type|Water}} Pokémon can also effectively use Ice attacks, which cover their major weakness of {{t|Grass}}, as well as {{t|Dragon}}, which resists their moves.

Similarly, an Ice-type Pokémon can often use {{type|Water}} moves, which covers their weakness of Fire and Rock.

===Contest properties===
When used in [[Pokémon Contest]]s, most Ice-type moves become {{OBP|Beautiful|condition}} moves, with two {{OBP|Cool|condition}} moves being the only exceptions.

==Pokémon==
As of Generation VI, there are 35 Ice-type Pokémon or 4.8% of all Pokémon (counting [[Form differences|forms]] and [[Mega Evolution]]s that change typing as different Pokémon), making it the second-rarest type, behind {{t|Ghost}}.

===Pure Ice-type Pokémon===
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{ice color light}}; border: 5px solid #{{ice color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="sortable" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{ice color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{ice color light}};"
! #
!
! Name
|-
|351
|{{MSP|351H|Castform}}
|{{p|Castform|Snowy Castform}}
|-
|361
|{{MSP|361|Snorunt}}
|{{p|Snorunt}}
|-
|362
|{{MSP|362|Glalie}}
|{{p|Glalie}}
|-
|362
|{{MSP|362M|Glalie}}
|{{p|Glalie|Mega Glalie}}
|-
|378
|{{MSP|378|Regice}}
|{{p|Regice}}
|-
|471
|{{MSP|471|Glaceon}}
|{{p|Glaceon}}
|-
|582
|{{MSP|582|Vanillite}}
|{{p|Vanillite}}
|-
|583
|{{MSP|583|Vanillish}}
|{{p|Vanillish}}
|-
|584
|{{MSP|584|Vanilluxe}}
|{{p|Vanilluxe}}
|-
|613
|{{MSP|613|Cubchoo}}
|{{p|Cubchoo}}
|-
|614
|{{MSP|614|Beartic}}
|{{p|Beartic}}
|-
|615
|{{MSP|615|Cryogonal}}
|{{p|Cryogonal}}
|-
|712
|{{MSP|712|Bergmite}}
|{{p|Bergmite}}
|-
|713
|{{MSP|713|Avalugg}}
|{{p|Avalugg}}
|}
|}

===Half Ice-type Pokémon===
====Primary Ice-type Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{ice color light}}; border: 5px solid #{{ice color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="sortable" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{ice color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{ice color light}};"
! #
!
! Name
! Type 1
! Type 2
|-
|124
|{{MSP|124|Jynx}}
|{{p|Jynx}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
|144
|{{MSP|144|Articuno}}
|{{p|Articuno}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|220
|{{MSP|220|Swinub}}
|{{p|Swinub}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|221
|{{MSP|221|Piloswine}}
|{{p|Piloswine}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|225
|{{MSP|225|Delibird}}
|{{p|Delibird}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|238
|{{MSP|238|Smoochum}}
|{{p|Smoochum}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
|363
|{{MSP|363|Spheal}}
|{{p|Spheal}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
{{typetable|Water}}
|-
|364
|{{MSP|364|Sealeo}}
|{{p|Sealeo}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
{{typetable|Water}}
|-
|365
|{{MSP|365|Walrein}}
|{{p|Walrein}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
{{typetable|Water}}
|-
|473
|{{MSP|473|Mamoswine}}
|{{p|Mamoswine}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|478
|{{MSP|478|Froslass}}
|{{p|Froslass}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
|}
|}

====Secondary Ice-type Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{ice color light}}; border: 5px solid #{{ice color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="sortable" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{ice color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{ice color light}};"
! #
!
! Name
! Type 1
! Type 2
|-
|087
|{{MSP|087|Dewgong}}
|{{p|Dewgong}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
|091
|{{MSP|091|Cloyster}}
|{{p|Cloyster}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
|131
|{{MSP|131|Lapras}}
|{{p|Lapras}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
|215
|{{MSP|215|Sneasel}}
|{{p|Sneasel}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
|459
|{{MSP|459|Snover}}
|{{p|Snover}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
|460
|{{MSP|460|Abomasnow}}
|{{p|Abomasnow}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
|460
|{{MSP|460M|Abomasnow}}
|{{p|Abomasnow|Mega Abomasnow}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
|461
|{{MSP|461|Weavile}}
|{{p|Weavile}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
|479
|{{MSP|479R|Rotom}}
|{{p|Rotom|Frost Rotom}}{{tt|*|Electric/Ghost-type in Generation IV}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
|644
|{{MSP|646|Kyurem}}
|{{p|Kyurem}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
|644
|{{MSP|646B|Kyurem}}
|{{p|Kyurem|Black Kyurem}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
|644
|{{MSP|646W|Kyurem}}
|{{p|Kyurem|White Kyurem}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
|698
|{{MSP|698|Amaura}}
|{{p|Amaura}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
|699
|{{MSP|699|Aurorus}}
|{{p|Aurorus}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|}
|}

==Moves==
{{movelist/battle-head|Ice}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Aurora Beam|Special|Beauty|65|100|20|anyadjacent|The target is hit with a rainbow-colored beam. This may also lower the target's Attack stat.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Avalanche|Physical|Cool|60|100|10|anyadjacent|An attack move that inflicts double the damage if the user has been hurt by the target in the same turn.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Blizzard|Special|Beauty|110|70|5|adjacentfoes|A howling blizzard is summoned to strike the opposing team. It may also freeze them solid.}}
{{movelist/battle|6|Freeze-Dry|Special|Beauty|70|100|20|anyadjacent|The user rapidly cools the target. This may also leave the target frozen. This move is super effective on {{t|Water}} types.}}
{{movelist/battle|5|Freeze Shock|Physical|Beauty|140|90|5|anyadjacent|On the second turn, the user hits the target with electrically charged ice. It may leave the target with paralysis.}}
{{movelist/battle|5|Frost Breath|Special|Beauty|60|90|10|anyadjacent|The user blows a cold breath on the target. This attack always results in a critical hit.}}
{{movelist/battle|5|Glaciate|Special|Beautiful|65|95|10|adjacentfoes|The user attacks by blowing freezing cold air at opposing Pokémon. This attack reduces the targets' Speed stat.}}
{{movelist/battle|3|Hail|Status|Beauty|—|100|10|all|The user summons a hail storm lasting five turns. It damages all Pokémon except the Ice type.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Haze|Status|Beauty|—|100|30|all|The user creates a haze that eliminates every stat change among all the Pokémon engaged in battle.}}
{{movelist/battle|3|Ice Ball|Physical|Beauty|30|90|20|anyadjacent|The user continually rolls into the target over five turns. It becomes stronger each time it hits.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Ice Beam|Special|Beauty|90|100|10|anyadjacent|The target is struck with an icy-cold beam of energy. It may also freeze the target solid.}}
{{movelist/battle|5|Ice Burn|Special|Beauty|140|90|5|anyadjacent|On the second turn, an ultracold, freezing wind surrounds the target. This may leave the target with a burn.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Ice Fang|Physical|Cool|65|95|15|anyadjacent|The user bites with cold-infused fangs. It may also make the target flinch or leave it frozen.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Ice Punch|Physical|Beauty|75|100|15|anyadjacent|The target is punched with an icy fist. It may also leave the target frozen.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Ice Shard|Physical|Beauty|40|100|30|anyadjacent|The user flash freezes chunks of ice and hurls them at the target. This move always goes first.}}
{{movelist/battle|5|Icicle Crash|Physical|Beauty|85|90|10|anyadjacent|The user attacks by harshly dropping an icicle onto the target. It may also make the target flinch.}}
{{movelist/battle|3|Icicle Spear|Physical|Beauty|25|100|30|anyadjacent|The user launches sharp icicles at the target. It strikes two to five times in a row.}}
{{movelist/battle|2|Icy Wind|Special|Beauty|55|95|15|adjacentfoes|The user attacks with a gust of chilled air. It also lowers the targets' Speed stat.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Mist|Status|Beauty|—|100|30|team|The user cloaks its body with a white mist that prevents any of its stats from being cut for five turns.}}
{{movelist/battle|2|Powder Snow|Special|Beauty|40|100|25|adjacentfoes|The user attacks with a chilling gust of powdery snow. It may also freeze the targets.}}
{{movelist/battle|3|Sheer Cold|Special|Beauty|—|30|5|anyadjacent|The target is attacked with a blast of absolute-zero cold. The target instantly faints if it hits.}}
{{movelist/battle-foot|Ice}}

==Abilities==
===Interacting with Ice-type===
When it is {{weather|hailing}}, {{a|Forecast}} will transform the user into the Ice-type. Pokémon with the ability {{a|Color Change}} will be changed into an Ice-type after it is hit with a Ice-type move. {{a|Protean}} will change its user into the Ice-type when it uses an Ice-type move. When a Pokémon with {{a|Multitype}} holds an [[Icicle Plate]], it will become an Ice-type Pokémon. When a Pokémon with {{a|Imposter}} is sent out and its opposite opponent is Ice-type, it will transform into that Pokémon and have its Ice-typing.

{| width="70%" class="roundy sortable" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{Ice color}}; border: 2px solid #{{Ice color dark}}"
|-
! style="background:#{{Ice color light}}; {{roundytl|8px}}" | Gen
! style="background:#{{Ice color light}};" | Ability
! style="background:#{{Ice color light}}; {{roundytr|8px}}" class="unsortable" | Description
|-
! width="30px" style="background:#{{kalos color}}; border: 1px solid #{{kalos color dark}}" | VI
| width="100px" style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8" | {{acolor|Refrigerate|000}}
| style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8; text-align:left;" | Normal-type moves become Ice-type moves.
|-
! width="30px" style="background:#{{hoenn color}}; border: 1px solid #{{hoenn color dark}}" | III
| width="100px" style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8" | {{acolor|Thick Fat|000}}
| style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8; text-align:left;" | Boosts resistance to Fire- and Ice-type moves.
|-
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{Ice color light}}; {{roundybottom|8px}}" |All details are accurate to Generation VI games. For details that have changed between generations, please see an individual Ability's page.
|}

===Exclusive Abilities===
Only Ice-type Pokémon can have these Abilities. This does not include [[Signature Ability|signature Abilities]].
{| width="70%" class="roundy sortable" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{Ice color}}; border: 2px solid #{{Ice color dark}}"
|-
! style="background:#{{Ice color light}}; {{roundytl|8px}}" | Gen
! style="background:#{{Ice color light}};" | Ability
! style="background:#{{Ice color light}}; {{roundytr|8px}}" class="unsortable" | Description
|-
! width="30px" style="background:#{{kalos color}}; border: 1px solid #{{kalos color dark}}" | VI
| width="100px" style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8" | {{acolor|Refrigerate|000}}
| style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8; text-align:left;" | Normal-type moves become Ice-type moves.
|-
! width="30px" style="background:#{{sinnoh color}}; border: 1px solid #{{sinnoh color dark}}" | IV
| width="100px" style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8" | {{acolor|Snow Cloak|000}}
| style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8; text-align:left;" | Boosts evasion in a hailstorm.
|-
! width="30px" style="background:#{{sinnoh color}}; border: 1px solid #{{sinnoh color dark}}" | IV
| width="100px" style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8" | {{acolor|Snow Warning|000}}
| style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8; text-align:left;" | The Pokémon summons a hailstorm when it enters a battle.
|-
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{Ice color light}}; {{roundybottom|8px}}" |All details are accurate to Generation VI games. For details that have changed between generations, please see an individual Ability's page.
|}

==Trivia==
* Generation V introduced the most Ice-type Pokémon of any generation, with {{tt|eight|including Frost Rotom}}, and Generation VI introduced the fewest Ice-type Pokémon, with four.
* Generation I introduced the most Ice-type moves of any generation, with six, and Generation VI introduced the fewest Ice-type moves, with only {{m|Freeze-Dry|one}}.
* Although the Ice type existed since Generation I, pure Ice-type Pokémon were not introduced until [[Generation III]].
** The {{p|Kyurem|only dual-type Ice-type}} Pokémon introduced in Generation V was a [[Legendary Pokémon]].
* In [[Generation III]], all Ice-type moves were {{OBP|Beauty|condition}} moves.
* Only the {{t|Normal}} type has a lower number of resistances than the Ice type, having no resistances (but one immunity). Ice only resists itself.
* There has been a [[Gym Leader]] or [[Elite Four]] member who specializes in the Ice type introduced in each generation. Three of the Ice-type [[Gym Leader]]s, [[Pryce]], [[Candice]], and [[Brycen]], are the seventh Gym Leaders in their respective region. [[Wulfric]] is the exception, being the eighth in his region.
* Ice is the only type that is super effective against the {{t|Flying}} type that does not in turn resist Flying-type moves.
* Ice-type attacks are resisted by all types that {{type|Water}} Pokémon resist.
* No Ice-type status moves change stats other than reverting changes and changing weather.

==In other languages==
{{langtable
|color={{ice color}}|bordercolor={{ice color light}}
|ja=こおり (氷) ''Kōri''
|zh_cmn=冰 ''Bīng''
|nl=IJs
|fi=Jää
|fr=Glace
|da=Is
|de=Eis
|no=Is
|el=Πάγου ''Pagou''
|he=קרח ''Kerach''
|id=Es
|it=Ghiaccio
|ko=얼음 ''Eol'eum''
|pl=Lodowy
|pt_br=Gelo
|pt_eu=Gelo
|ru=Ледяной ''Ledyanoi''
|es=Hielo
|sk=Ľadový
|ro=Gheață
|sv=Is
|th=น้ำแข็ง
}}

[[de:Eis (Typ)]]
[[es:Tipo Hielo]]
[[fr:Glace]]
[[it:Ghiaccio (tipo)]]
[[ja:こおり]]
[[pl:Lód (typ)]]
[[pt:Tipo Ice]]
[[zh:冰（属性）]]

Poison (type)

2014-12-21T21:33:18Z

AndyPKMN: Durr, forgot to check the past gen tables.

{{types}}
The '''Poison type''' (Japanese: '''どくタイプ''' ''Poison type'') is one of the eighteen [[type]]s. Notable Trainers who specialize in Poison-type Pokémon include [[Koga]] and [[Janine]] of [[Fuchsia City]], who are both related, and [[Roxie]] of [[Virbank City]]. Some [[villainous teams]], such as [[Team Rocket]], also frequently use Poison-type Pokémon. Prior to [[Generation IV#Advances in gameplay|changes in Generation IV]], all Poison-type moves were [[physical move|physical]], but they may now also be [[special move|special]] depending on the attack.

==Statistical averages==
===Overall===
{{BaseStatNoCat|
type=poison|
HP=62.47 |
Attack=68.40 |
Defense=62.26 |
SpAtk=65.53 |
SpDef=64.77 |
Speed=63.46 |
Total=386.89 }}

===Fully evolved===
{{BaseStatNoCat|
type=poison|
HP=77.36 |
Attack=85.12 |
Defense=74.48 |
SpAtk=78.80 |
SpDef=78.96 |
Speed=77.48 |
Total=472.20 }}


==Battle properties==
===Generation I===
Poison-type Pokémon are immune to the {{status|poisoned|poisoned and badly poisoned}} conditions.
{{typebattle
|type=Poison
|weakto1=Ground
|weakto2=Bug
|weakto3=Psychic
|resist1=Fighting
|resist2=Poison
|resist3=Grass
|weaken1=Bug
|weaken2=Grass
|resisted1=Poison
|resisted2=Ground
|resisted3=Rock
|resisted4=Ghost
}}

===Generations II to V===
In [[Generation II]] only, Poison-type Pokémon can be poisoned by the {{t|Bug}} move {{m|Twineedle}}.

Starting in [[Generation IV]], a [[grounded]] Poison-type Pokémon will now remove {{m|Toxic Spikes}} on its side when it switches in.

{{typebattle
|type=Poison
|weakto1=Ground
|weakto2=Psychic
|resist1=Fighting
|resist2=Poison
|resist3=Bug
|resist4=Grass
|weaken1=Grass
|resisted1=Poison
|resisted2=Ground
|resisted3=Rock
|resisted4=Ghost
|noeffect1=Steel
}}

===Generation VI onwards===
{{typebattle
|type=Poison
|weakto1=Ground
|weakto2=Psychic
|resist1=Fighting
|resist2=Poison
|resist3=Bug
|resist4=Grass
|resist5=Fairy
|weaken1=Grass
|weaken2=Fairy
|resisted1=Poison
|resisted2=Ground
|resisted3=Rock
|resisted4=Ghost
|noeffect1=Steel
}}

==Characteristics==
===Defense===
When used defensively, the Poison type is considered one of the best in the game. This is because of its ability to block or cause [[status condition]]s and resist common moves. Its obvious weakness, {{m|Earthquake}}, can be mitigated by the variety of dual-type {{t|Grass}} and {{t|Bug}}/Poison Pokémon, as well as the {{p|Zubat}} family's {{t|Flying}} type and the {{p|Gastly}} and {{p|Koffing}} families' {{a|Levitate}}. Additionally, the Poison type resists itself, {{t|Bug}}, {{t|Fighting}}, {{t|Grass}}, and {{t|Fairy}}, giving it resistances to common moves such as {{m|X-Scissor}}, {{M|Close Combat}}, {{m|Moonblast}} and {{m|Grass Knot}}. Moreover, Poison types tend to hold potent status and support moves, such as {{m|Toxic Spikes}}, and {{m|Toxic}}. Immune to {{status|Poison}} and {{m|Toxic Spikes}} themselves, they have an opportunity to absorb status effects as well. [[Koga]]'s words of "confusion, sleep, poison" describe the Poison type quite well.

===Offense===
Offensively, Poison-type moves are mixed to weak. Its first strength, which is against the Grass type, is largely mitigated by the variety of Grass/Poison Pokémon as well as {{p|Torterra}}'s {{t|Ground}}, {{p|Lileep}} and {{p|Cradily}}'s {{t|Rock}}, and especially {{p|Ferroseed}} and {{p|Ferrothorn}}'s {{t|Steel}}. {{t|Ice}}, {{t|Fire}}, {{t|Flying}}, and even {{t|Bug}} (to some extent) are much more useful in countering the Grass type. Poison moves are not very effective on Poison, {{t|Rock}}, {{t|Ghost}}, or {{t|Ground}}, and are completely ineffective against {{t|Steel}}. Hence, resistances to the Poison type are far more common than weaknesses to it. Moreover, Poison moves are statistically poor, with most doing no more than 65 base power in damage. Poison types' stats on average range from mediocre to poor. Poison-type moves are really only useful with STAB or when inflicting normal or bad poison on opponents. However, Poison is only one of two types super-effective against {{t|Fairy}} (the other being Steel), giving it an important niche in the game.

===Contest properties===
In {{pkmn|Contest}}s, Poison-type moves typically become {{OBP|Smart|condition}} moves. None of them are considered {{OBP|Cute|condition}}.

==Pokémon==
As of Generation VI, there are 59 Poison-type Pokémon or 8% of all Pokémon (counting [[Form differences|forms]] and [[Mega Evolution]]s that change typing as different Pokémon), making it the 9th most common type, below {{t|Fire}}.

===Pure Poison-type Pokémon===
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{poison color light}}; border: 5px solid #{{poison color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="sortable" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{poison color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{poison color light}};"
! #
!
! Name
|-
|023
|{{MSP|023|Ekans}}
|{{p|Ekans}}
|-
|024
|{{MSP|024|Arbok}}
|{{p|Arbok}}
|-
|029
|{{MSP|029|Nidoran♀}}
|{{p|Nidoran♀}}
|-
|030
|{{MSP|030|Nidorina}}
|{{p|Nidorina}}
|-
|032
|{{MSP|032|Nidoran♂}}
|{{p|Nidoran♂}}
|-
|033
|{{MSP|033|Nidorino}}
|{{p|Nidorino}}
|-
|088
|{{MSP|088|Grimer}}
|{{p|Grimer}}
|-
|089
|{{MSP|089|Muk}}
|{{p|Muk}}
|-
|109
|{{MSP|109|Koffing}}
|{{p|Koffing}}
|-
|110
|{{MSP|110|Weezing}}
|{{p|Weezing}}
|-
|316
|{{MSP|316|Gulpin}}
|{{p|Gulpin}}
|-
|317
|{{MSP|317|Swalot}}
|{{p|Swalot}}
|-
|336
|{{MSP|336|Seviper}}
|{{p|Seviper}}
|-
|568
|{{MSP|568|Trubbish}}
|{{p|Trubbish}}
|-
|569
|{{MSP|569|Garbodor}}
|{{p|Garbodor}}
|}
|}

===Half Poison-type Pokémon===
====Primary Poison-type Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{poison color light}}; border: 5px solid #{{poison color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="sortable" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{poison color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{poison color light}};"
! #
!
! Name
! Type 1
! Type 2
|-
|031
|{{MSP|031|Nidoqueen}}
|{{p|Nidoqueen}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|034
|{{MSP|034|Nidoking}}
|{{p|Nidoking}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|041
|{{MSP|041|Zubat}}
|{{p|Zubat}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|042
|{{MSP|042|Golbat}}
|{{p|Golbat}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|169
|{{MSP|169|Crobat}}
|{{p|Crobat}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|434
|{{MSP|434|Stunky}}
|{{p|Stunky}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
|-
|435
|{{MSP|435|Skuntank}}
|{{p|Skuntank}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
|-
|451
|{{MSP|451|Skorupi}}
|{{p|Skorupi}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
|-
|452
|{{MSP|452|Drapion}}
|{{p|Drapion}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
|-
|453
|{{MSP|453|Croagunk}}
|{{p|Croagunk}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|454
|{{MSP|454|Toxicroak}}
|{{p|Toxicroak}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|690
|{{MSP|690|Skrelp}}
|{{p|Skrelp}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Water}}
|-
|691
|{{MSP|691|Dragalge}}
|{{p|Dragalge}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|}
|}

====Secondary Poison-type Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{poison color light}}; border: 5px solid #{{poison color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="sortable" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{poison color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{poison color light}};"
! #
!
! Name
! Type 1
! Type 2
|-
|001
|{{MSP|001|Bulbasaur}}
|{{p|Bulbasaur}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|002
|{{MSP|002|Ivysaur}}
|{{p|Ivysaur}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|003
|{{MSP|003|Venusaur}}
|{{p|Venusaur}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|003
|{{MSP|003M|Venusaur}}
|{{p|Venusaur|Mega Venusaur}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|013
|{{MSP|013|Weedle}}
|{{p|Weedle}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|014
|{{MSP|014|Kakuna}}
|{{p|Kakuna}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|015
|{{MSP|015|Beedrill}}
|{{p|Beedrill}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|015
|{{MSP|015M|Beedrill}}
|{{p|Beedrill|Mega Beedrill}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|043
|{{MSP|043|Oddish}}
|{{p|Oddish}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|044
|{{MSP|044|Gloom}}
|{{p|Gloom}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|045
|{{MSP|045|Vileplume}}
|{{p|Vileplume}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|048
|{{MSP|048|Venonat}}
|{{p|Venonat}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|049
|{{MSP|049|Venomoth}}
|{{p|Venomoth}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|069
|{{MSP|069|Bellsprout}}
|{{p|Bellsprout}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|070
|{{MSP|070|Weepinbell}}
|{{p|Weepinbell}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|071
|{{MSP|071|Victreebel}}
|{{p|Victreebel}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|072
|{{MSP|072|Tentacool}}
|{{p|Tentacool}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|073
|{{MSP|073|Tentacruel}}
|{{p|Tentacruel}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|092
|{{MSP|092|Gastly}}
|{{p|Gastly}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|093
|{{MSP|093|Haunter}}
|{{p|Haunter}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|094
|{{MSP|094|Gengar}}
|{{p|Gengar}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|094
|{{MSP|094M|Gengar}}
|{{p|Gengar|Mega Gengar}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|167
|{{MSP|167|Spinarak}}
|{{p|Spinarak}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|168
|{{MSP|168|Ariados}}
|{{p|Ariados}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|211
|{{MSP|211|Qwilfish}}
|{{p|Qwilfish}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|269
|{{MSP|269|Dustox}}
|{{p|Dustox}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|315
|{{MSP|315|Roselia}}
|{{p|Roselia}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|406
|{{MSP|406|Budew}}
|{{p|Budew}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|407
|{{MSP|407|Roserade}}
|{{p|Roserade}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|543
|{{MSP|543|Venipede}}
|{{p|Venipede}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|544
|{{MSP|544|Whirlipede}}
|{{p|Whirlipede}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|545
|{{MSP|545|Scolipede}}
|{{p|Scolipede}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|590
|{{MSP|590|Foongus}}
|{{p|Foongus}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|591
|{{MSP|591|Amoonguss}}
|{{p|Amoonguss}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|}
|}

==Moves==
{{movelist/battle-head|Poison}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Acid|Special|Smart|40|100|30|adjacentfoes|The opposing team is attacked with a spray of harsh acid. The acid may also lower the targets' Sp.Def stats.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Acid Armor|Status|Tough|—|—|20|self|The user alters its cellular structure to liquefy itself, sharply raising its Defense stat.}}
{{movelist/battle|5|Acid Spray|Special||40|100|20|anyadjacent|The user spits fluid that works to melt the target. This harshly reduces the target's Sp. Def stat.}}
{{movelist/battle|6|Belch|Special||120|90|10|anyadjacent|The user lets out a damaging belch on the target. The user must eat a [[Berry]] to use this move.}}
{{movelist/battle|5|Clear Smog|Special||50|—|15|anyadjacent|The user attacks by throwing a clump of special mud. All status changes are returned to normal.}}
{{movelist/battle|5|Coil|Status||—|—|20|self|The user coils up and concentrates. This raises its Attack and Defense stats as well as its accuracy.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Cross Poison|Physical|Cool|70|100|20|anyadjacent|A slashing attack with a poisonous blade that may also leave the target poisoned. Critical hits land more easily.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Gastro Acid|Status|Beauty|—|100|10|anyadjacent|The user hurls up its stomach acids on the target. The fluid eliminates the effect of the target's Ability.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Gunk Shot|Physical|Cool|120|80|5|anyadjacent|The user shoots filthy garbage at the target to attack. It may also poison the target.}}
{{movelist/battle|3|Poison Fang|Physical|Smart|50|100|15|anyadjacent|The user bites the target with toxic fangs. It may also leave the target badly poisoned.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Poison Gas|Status|Smart|—|90|40|adjacentfoes|A cloud of poison gas is sprayed in the face of opposing Pokémon. It may poison those hit.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Poison Jab|Physical|Smart|80|100|20|anyadjacent|The target is stabbed with a tentacle or arm seeped with poison. It may also poison the target.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Poison Powder|Status|Smart|—|75|35|anyadjacent|The user scatters a cloud of poisonous dust on the target. It may poison the target.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Poison Sting|Physical|Smart|15|100|35|anyadjacent|The user stabs the target with a poisonous stinger. This may also poison the target.}}
{{movelist/battle|3|Poison Tail|Physical|Smart|50|100|25|anyadjacent|The user hits the target with its tail. It may also poison the target. Critical hits land more easily.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Sludge|Special|Tough|65|100|20|anyadjacent|Unsanitary sludge is hurled at the target. It may also poison the target.}}
{{movelist/battle|2|Sludge Bomb|Special|Tough|90|100|10|anyadjacent|Unsanitary sludge is hurled at the target. It may also poison the target.}}
{{movelist/battle|5|Sludge Wave|Special||95|100|10|alladjacent|It swamps the area around the user with a giant sludge wave. It may also poison those hit.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Smog|Special|Tough|30|70|20|anyadjacent|The target is attacked with a discharge of filthy gases. It may also poison the target.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Toxic|Status|Smart|—|90|10|anyadjacent|A move that leaves the target badly poisoned. Its poison damage worsens every turn.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Toxic Spikes|Status|Smart|—|—|20|foes|The user lays a trap of poison spikes at the opponent's feet. They poison opponents that switch into battle.}}
{{movelist/battle|6|Venom Drench|Status||—|—|20|adjacentfoes|Opposing Pokémon are drenched in an odd poisonous liquid. This lowers the Attack, Sp. Atk, and Speed stats of a poisoned target.}}
{{movelist/battle|5|Venoshock|Special||65|100|10|anyadjacent|The user drenches the target in a special poisonous liquid. Its power is doubled if the target is poisoned.}}
{{movelist/battle-foot|Poison}}

==Abilities==
===Interacting with Poison-type===
User of {{a|Color Change}} will be changed into Poison-type after it is hit with a Poison-type move. {{a|Protean}} will change its user into Poison-type when it uses a Poison-type move. When a Pokémon with {{a|Multitype}} holds a [[Toxic Plate]], it will become a Poison-type Pokémon. When a Pokémon with {{a|Imposter}} is sent out and its opposite opponent is Poison-type, it will transform into that Pokémon and turn into Poison-type.

Finally, Poison-type Pokémon are immune to {{a|Poison Point}} and {{a|Poison Touch}}. {{a|Synchronize}} and {{a|Effect Spore}} cannot inflict poisoning status condition on Poison-type Pokémon.

===Exclusive Abilities===
Only Poison-type Pokémon can have these Abilities. This does not include [[Signature Ability|signature Abilities]].

{| width="70%" class="roundy sortable" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{poison color}}; border: 2px solid #{{poison color dark}}"
|-
! style="background:#{{poison color light}}; {{roundytl|8px}}" | Gen
! style="background:#{{poison color light}};" | Ability
! style="background:#{{poison color light}}; {{roundytr|8px}}" class="unsortable" | Description
|-
! width="30px" style="background:#{{hoenn color}}; border: 1px solid #{{hoenn color dark}}" | III
| width="100px" style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8" | {{acolor|Liquid Ooze|000}}
| style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8; text-align:left;" | Damages attackers using any draining move.
|-
! width="30px" style="background:#{{hoenn color}}; border: 1px solid #{{hoenn color dark}}" | III
| width="100px" style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8" | {{acolor|Stench|000}}
| style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8; text-align:left;" | The stench may cause the target to flinch. It can also repel wild Pokémon if the user is leading the party.
|-
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{poison color light}}; {{roundybottom|8px}}" |All details are accurate to Generation VI games. For details that have changed between generations, please see an individual Ability's page.
|}

==Trivia==
* [[Generation I]] introduced the most Poison-type Pokémon of any generation, with 33, and Generation VI introduced the fewest Poison-type Pokémon, with two.
** More than half of the Pokémon who currently have the Poison-type were introduced in Generation I.
** Poison was also the most common type in Generation I, with 22% of Pokémon having the Poison type.
* Generation I introduced the most Poison-type moves of any generation, with eight, and Generation II introduced the fewest Poison-type moves, with only {{m|Sludge Bomb|one}}.
* With the exception of {{p|Arceus}} holding a {{DL|Plate|Toxic Plate}}, there is no Poison-type [[Legendary Pokémon]]. This makes it the only type without any persistent Legendary Pokémon.
* Only a few Poison-type moves do not have a chance to poison their target (under normal battle conditions).
* In [[Generation I]], the Poison type is {{DL|Damage modification|super effective}} against {{type|Bug}} Pokémon, while the Bug type is super effective against Poison-type Pokémon. This trait has never been shared with any other type match-up and is likewise no longer true.
* The Poison type is the only one of the original 15 types not mentioned in the song [[2.B.A. Master]]. Instead, the "Flame type" (which doesn't exist) is mentioned.
* A Pokémon of every type except Poison was added to the [[List of Pokémon by Sinnoh Pokédex number|Sinnoh Pokédex]] in {{game|Platinum}}.
* Only odd numbered generations have introduced pure Poison-type Pokémon.
** Also, every such generation has a two stage family of blob-shaped, pure Poison-type Pokémon: {{p|Grimer}} and {{p|Muk}} in Generation I, {{p|Gulpin}} and {{p|Swalot}} in Generation III, and {{p|Trubbish}} and {{p|Garbodor}} in Generation V.

==In other languages==
{{langtable
|color={{poison color}}|bordercolor={{poison color light}}
|ja=どく (毒) ''Doku''
|zh_cmn=毒 ''Dú''
|nl=Gif
|fi=Myrkky
|fr=Poison
|da=Gift
|de=Gift
|no=Gift
|el=Δηλητηρίου ''Dilitiriou''
|he=רעל ''Ra'al''
|id=Racun
|it=Veleno
|ko=독 ''Dok''
|pl=Trujący
|pt_br=Veneno Venenoso
|pt_eu=Veneno
|ru=Ядовитый ''Yadovityi''
|es=Veneno
|ro=Otravă
|sv=Gift
|th=พิษ
}}

[[de:Gift (Typ)]]
[[es:Tipo Veneno]]
[[pt:Tipo Poison]]

[[fr:Poison (type)]]
[[it:Veleno (tipo)]]
[[ja:どく]]
[[pl:Trujący (typ)]]
[[zh:毒（属性）]]

Poison (type)

2014-12-21T21:27:19Z

AndyPKMN: /* Generation VI onwards */ Shouldn't the types be listed in order of their index numbers? I wonder which other type pages have this problem...

{{types}}
The '''Poison type''' (Japanese: '''どくタイプ''' ''Poison type'') is one of the eighteen [[type]]s. Notable Trainers who specialize in Poison-type Pokémon include [[Koga]] and [[Janine]] of [[Fuchsia City]], who are both related, and [[Roxie]] of [[Virbank City]]. Some [[villainous teams]], such as [[Team Rocket]], also frequently use Poison-type Pokémon. Prior to [[Generation IV#Advances in gameplay|changes in Generation IV]], all Poison-type moves were [[physical move|physical]], but they may now also be [[special move|special]] depending on the attack.

==Statistical averages==
===Overall===
{{BaseStatNoCat|
type=poison|
HP=62.47 |
Attack=68.40 |
Defense=62.26 |
SpAtk=65.53 |
SpDef=64.77 |
Speed=63.46 |
Total=386.89 }}

===Fully evolved===
{{BaseStatNoCat|
type=poison|
HP=77.36 |
Attack=85.12 |
Defense=74.48 |
SpAtk=78.80 |
SpDef=78.96 |
Speed=77.48 |
Total=472.20 }}


==Battle properties==
===Generation I===
Poison-type Pokémon are immune to the {{status|poisoned|poisoned and badly poisoned}} conditions.
{{typebattle
|type=Poison
|weakto1=Bug
|weakto2=Ground
|weakto3=Psychic
|resist1=Fighting
|resist2=Grass
|resist3=Poison
|weaken1=Bug
|weaken2=Grass
|resisted1=Ghost
|resisted2=Ground
|resisted3=Poison
|resisted4=Rock
}}

===Generations II to V===
In [[Generation II]] only, Poison-type Pokémon can be poisoned by the {{t|Bug}} move {{m|Twineedle}}.

Starting in [[Generation IV]], a [[grounded]] Poison-type Pokémon will now remove {{m|Toxic Spikes}} on its side when it switches in.

{{typebattle
|type=Poison
|weakto1=Ground
|weakto2=Psychic
|resist1=Bug
|resist2=Fighting
|resist3=Poison
|resist4=Grass
|weaken1=Grass
|resisted1=Ghost
|resisted2=Ground
|resisted3=Poison
|resisted4=Rock
|noeffect1=Steel
}}

===Generation VI onwards===
{{typebattle
|type=Poison
|weakto1=Ground
|weakto2=Psychic
|resist1=Fighting
|resist2=Poison
|resist3=Bug
|resist4=Grass
|resist5=Fairy
|weaken1=Grass
|weaken2=Fairy
|resisted1=Poison
|resisted2=Ground
|resisted3=Rock
|resisted4=Ghost
|noeffect1=Steel
}}

==Characteristics==
===Defense===
When used defensively, the Poison type is considered one of the best in the game. This is because of its ability to block or cause [[status condition]]s and resist common moves. Its obvious weakness, {{m|Earthquake}}, can be mitigated by the variety of dual-type {{t|Grass}} and {{t|Bug}}/Poison Pokémon, as well as the {{p|Zubat}} family's {{t|Flying}} type and the {{p|Gastly}} and {{p|Koffing}} families' {{a|Levitate}}. Additionally, the Poison type resists itself, {{t|Bug}}, {{t|Fighting}}, {{t|Grass}}, and {{t|Fairy}}, giving it resistances to common moves such as {{m|X-Scissor}}, {{M|Close Combat}}, {{m|Moonblast}} and {{m|Grass Knot}}. Moreover, Poison types tend to hold potent status and support moves, such as {{m|Toxic Spikes}}, and {{m|Toxic}}. Immune to {{status|Poison}} and {{m|Toxic Spikes}} themselves, they have an opportunity to absorb status effects as well. [[Koga]]'s words of "confusion, sleep, poison" describe the Poison type quite well.

===Offense===
Offensively, Poison-type moves are mixed to weak. Its first strength, which is against the Grass type, is largely mitigated by the variety of Grass/Poison Pokémon as well as {{p|Torterra}}'s {{t|Ground}}, {{p|Lileep}} and {{p|Cradily}}'s {{t|Rock}}, and especially {{p|Ferroseed}} and {{p|Ferrothorn}}'s {{t|Steel}}. {{t|Ice}}, {{t|Fire}}, {{t|Flying}}, and even {{t|Bug}} (to some extent) are much more useful in countering the Grass type. Poison moves are not very effective on Poison, {{t|Rock}}, {{t|Ghost}}, or {{t|Ground}}, and are completely ineffective against {{t|Steel}}. Hence, resistances to the Poison type are far more common than weaknesses to it. Moreover, Poison moves are statistically poor, with most doing no more than 65 base power in damage. Poison types' stats on average range from mediocre to poor. Poison-type moves are really only useful with STAB or when inflicting normal or bad poison on opponents. However, Poison is only one of two types super-effective against {{t|Fairy}} (the other being Steel), giving it an important niche in the game.

===Contest properties===
In {{pkmn|Contest}}s, Poison-type moves typically become {{OBP|Smart|condition}} moves. None of them are considered {{OBP|Cute|condition}}.

==Pokémon==
As of Generation VI, there are 59 Poison-type Pokémon or 8% of all Pokémon (counting [[Form differences|forms]] and [[Mega Evolution]]s that change typing as different Pokémon), making it the 9th most common type, below {{t|Fire}}.

===Pure Poison-type Pokémon===
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{poison color light}}; border: 5px solid #{{poison color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="sortable" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{poison color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{poison color light}};"
! #
!
! Name
|-
|023
|{{MSP|023|Ekans}}
|{{p|Ekans}}
|-
|024
|{{MSP|024|Arbok}}
|{{p|Arbok}}
|-
|029
|{{MSP|029|Nidoran♀}}
|{{p|Nidoran♀}}
|-
|030
|{{MSP|030|Nidorina}}
|{{p|Nidorina}}
|-
|032
|{{MSP|032|Nidoran♂}}
|{{p|Nidoran♂}}
|-
|033
|{{MSP|033|Nidorino}}
|{{p|Nidorino}}
|-
|088
|{{MSP|088|Grimer}}
|{{p|Grimer}}
|-
|089
|{{MSP|089|Muk}}
|{{p|Muk}}
|-
|109
|{{MSP|109|Koffing}}
|{{p|Koffing}}
|-
|110
|{{MSP|110|Weezing}}
|{{p|Weezing}}
|-
|316
|{{MSP|316|Gulpin}}
|{{p|Gulpin}}
|-
|317
|{{MSP|317|Swalot}}
|{{p|Swalot}}
|-
|336
|{{MSP|336|Seviper}}
|{{p|Seviper}}
|-
|568
|{{MSP|568|Trubbish}}
|{{p|Trubbish}}
|-
|569
|{{MSP|569|Garbodor}}
|{{p|Garbodor}}
|}
|}

===Half Poison-type Pokémon===
====Primary Poison-type Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{poison color light}}; border: 5px solid #{{poison color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="sortable" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{poison color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{poison color light}};"
! #
!
! Name
! Type 1
! Type 2
|-
|031
|{{MSP|031|Nidoqueen}}
|{{p|Nidoqueen}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|034
|{{MSP|034|Nidoking}}
|{{p|Nidoking}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|041
|{{MSP|041|Zubat}}
|{{p|Zubat}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|042
|{{MSP|042|Golbat}}
|{{p|Golbat}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|169
|{{MSP|169|Crobat}}
|{{p|Crobat}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|434
|{{MSP|434|Stunky}}
|{{p|Stunky}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
|-
|435
|{{MSP|435|Skuntank}}
|{{p|Skuntank}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
|-
|451
|{{MSP|451|Skorupi}}
|{{p|Skorupi}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
|-
|452
|{{MSP|452|Drapion}}
|{{p|Drapion}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
|-
|453
|{{MSP|453|Croagunk}}
|{{p|Croagunk}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|454
|{{MSP|454|Toxicroak}}
|{{p|Toxicroak}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|690
|{{MSP|690|Skrelp}}
|{{p|Skrelp}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Water}}
|-
|691
|{{MSP|691|Dragalge}}
|{{p|Dragalge}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|}
|}

====Secondary Poison-type Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{poison color light}}; border: 5px solid #{{poison color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="sortable" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{poison color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{poison color light}};"
! #
!
! Name
! Type 1
! Type 2
|-
|001
|{{MSP|001|Bulbasaur}}
|{{p|Bulbasaur}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|002
|{{MSP|002|Ivysaur}}
|{{p|Ivysaur}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|003
|{{MSP|003|Venusaur}}
|{{p|Venusaur}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|003
|{{MSP|003M|Venusaur}}
|{{p|Venusaur|Mega Venusaur}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|013
|{{MSP|013|Weedle}}
|{{p|Weedle}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|014
|{{MSP|014|Kakuna}}
|{{p|Kakuna}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|015
|{{MSP|015|Beedrill}}
|{{p|Beedrill}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|015
|{{MSP|015M|Beedrill}}
|{{p|Beedrill|Mega Beedrill}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|043
|{{MSP|043|Oddish}}
|{{p|Oddish}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|044
|{{MSP|044|Gloom}}
|{{p|Gloom}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|045
|{{MSP|045|Vileplume}}
|{{p|Vileplume}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|048
|{{MSP|048|Venonat}}
|{{p|Venonat}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|049
|{{MSP|049|Venomoth}}
|{{p|Venomoth}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|069
|{{MSP|069|Bellsprout}}
|{{p|Bellsprout}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|070
|{{MSP|070|Weepinbell}}
|{{p|Weepinbell}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|071
|{{MSP|071|Victreebel}}
|{{p|Victreebel}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|072
|{{MSP|072|Tentacool}}
|{{p|Tentacool}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|073
|{{MSP|073|Tentacruel}}
|{{p|Tentacruel}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|092
|{{MSP|092|Gastly}}
|{{p|Gastly}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|093
|{{MSP|093|Haunter}}
|{{p|Haunter}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|094
|{{MSP|094|Gengar}}
|{{p|Gengar}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|094
|{{MSP|094M|Gengar}}
|{{p|Gengar|Mega Gengar}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|167
|{{MSP|167|Spinarak}}
|{{p|Spinarak}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|168
|{{MSP|168|Ariados}}
|{{p|Ariados}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|211
|{{MSP|211|Qwilfish}}
|{{p|Qwilfish}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|269
|{{MSP|269|Dustox}}
|{{p|Dustox}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|315
|{{MSP|315|Roselia}}
|{{p|Roselia}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|406
|{{MSP|406|Budew}}
|{{p|Budew}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|407
|{{MSP|407|Roserade}}
|{{p|Roserade}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|543
|{{MSP|543|Venipede}}
|{{p|Venipede}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|544
|{{MSP|544|Whirlipede}}
|{{p|Whirlipede}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|545
|{{MSP|545|Scolipede}}
|{{p|Scolipede}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|590
|{{MSP|590|Foongus}}
|{{p|Foongus}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|591
|{{MSP|591|Amoonguss}}
|{{p|Amoonguss}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|}
|}

==Moves==
{{movelist/battle-head|Poison}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Acid|Special|Smart|40|100|30|adjacentfoes|The opposing team is attacked with a spray of harsh acid. The acid may also lower the targets' Sp.Def stats.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Acid Armor|Status|Tough|—|—|20|self|The user alters its cellular structure to liquefy itself, sharply raising its Defense stat.}}
{{movelist/battle|5|Acid Spray|Special||40|100|20|anyadjacent|The user spits fluid that works to melt the target. This harshly reduces the target's Sp. Def stat.}}
{{movelist/battle|6|Belch|Special||120|90|10|anyadjacent|The user lets out a damaging belch on the target. The user must eat a [[Berry]] to use this move.}}
{{movelist/battle|5|Clear Smog|Special||50|—|15|anyadjacent|The user attacks by throwing a clump of special mud. All status changes are returned to normal.}}
{{movelist/battle|5|Coil|Status||—|—|20|self|The user coils up and concentrates. This raises its Attack and Defense stats as well as its accuracy.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Cross Poison|Physical|Cool|70|100|20|anyadjacent|A slashing attack with a poisonous blade that may also leave the target poisoned. Critical hits land more easily.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Gastro Acid|Status|Beauty|—|100|10|anyadjacent|The user hurls up its stomach acids on the target. The fluid eliminates the effect of the target's Ability.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Gunk Shot|Physical|Cool|120|80|5|anyadjacent|The user shoots filthy garbage at the target to attack. It may also poison the target.}}
{{movelist/battle|3|Poison Fang|Physical|Smart|50|100|15|anyadjacent|The user bites the target with toxic fangs. It may also leave the target badly poisoned.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Poison Gas|Status|Smart|—|90|40|adjacentfoes|A cloud of poison gas is sprayed in the face of opposing Pokémon. It may poison those hit.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Poison Jab|Physical|Smart|80|100|20|anyadjacent|The target is stabbed with a tentacle or arm seeped with poison. It may also poison the target.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Poison Powder|Status|Smart|—|75|35|anyadjacent|The user scatters a cloud of poisonous dust on the target. It may poison the target.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Poison Sting|Physical|Smart|15|100|35|anyadjacent|The user stabs the target with a poisonous stinger. This may also poison the target.}}
{{movelist/battle|3|Poison Tail|Physical|Smart|50|100|25|anyadjacent|The user hits the target with its tail. It may also poison the target. Critical hits land more easily.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Sludge|Special|Tough|65|100|20|anyadjacent|Unsanitary sludge is hurled at the target. It may also poison the target.}}
{{movelist/battle|2|Sludge Bomb|Special|Tough|90|100|10|anyadjacent|Unsanitary sludge is hurled at the target. It may also poison the target.}}
{{movelist/battle|5|Sludge Wave|Special||95|100|10|alladjacent|It swamps the area around the user with a giant sludge wave. It may also poison those hit.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Smog|Special|Tough|30|70|20|anyadjacent|The target is attacked with a discharge of filthy gases. It may also poison the target.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Toxic|Status|Smart|—|90|10|anyadjacent|A move that leaves the target badly poisoned. Its poison damage worsens every turn.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Toxic Spikes|Status|Smart|—|—|20|foes|The user lays a trap of poison spikes at the opponent's feet. They poison opponents that switch into battle.}}
{{movelist/battle|6|Venom Drench|Status||—|—|20|adjacentfoes|Opposing Pokémon are drenched in an odd poisonous liquid. This lowers the Attack, Sp. Atk, and Speed stats of a poisoned target.}}
{{movelist/battle|5|Venoshock|Special||65|100|10|anyadjacent|The user drenches the target in a special poisonous liquid. Its power is doubled if the target is poisoned.}}
{{movelist/battle-foot|Poison}}

==Abilities==
===Interacting with Poison-type===
User of {{a|Color Change}} will be changed into Poison-type after it is hit with a Poison-type move. {{a|Protean}} will change its user into Poison-type when it uses a Poison-type move. When a Pokémon with {{a|Multitype}} holds a [[Toxic Plate]], it will become a Poison-type Pokémon. When a Pokémon with {{a|Imposter}} is sent out and its opposite opponent is Poison-type, it will transform into that Pokémon and turn into Poison-type.

Finally, Poison-type Pokémon are immune to {{a|Poison Point}} and {{a|Poison Touch}}. {{a|Synchronize}} and {{a|Effect Spore}} cannot inflict poisoning status condition on Poison-type Pokémon.

===Exclusive Abilities===
Only Poison-type Pokémon can have these Abilities. This does not include [[Signature Ability|signature Abilities]].

{| width="70%" class="roundy sortable" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{poison color}}; border: 2px solid #{{poison color dark}}"
|-
! style="background:#{{poison color light}}; {{roundytl|8px}}" | Gen
! style="background:#{{poison color light}};" | Ability
! style="background:#{{poison color light}}; {{roundytr|8px}}" class="unsortable" | Description
|-
! width="30px" style="background:#{{hoenn color}}; border: 1px solid #{{hoenn color dark}}" | III
| width="100px" style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8" | {{acolor|Liquid Ooze|000}}
| style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8; text-align:left;" | Damages attackers using any draining move.
|-
! width="30px" style="background:#{{hoenn color}}; border: 1px solid #{{hoenn color dark}}" | III
| width="100px" style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8" | {{acolor|Stench|000}}
| style="background:#FFFFFF; border: 1px solid #D8D8D8; text-align:left;" | The stench may cause the target to flinch. It can also repel wild Pokémon if the user is leading the party.
|-
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{poison color light}}; {{roundybottom|8px}}" |All details are accurate to Generation VI games. For details that have changed between generations, please see an individual Ability's page.
|}

==Trivia==
* [[Generation I]] introduced the most Poison-type Pokémon of any generation, with 33, and Generation VI introduced the fewest Poison-type Pokémon, with two.
** More than half of the Pokémon who currently have the Poison-type were introduced in Generation I.
** Poison was also the most common type in Generation I, with 22% of Pokémon having the Poison type.
* Generation I introduced the most Poison-type moves of any generation, with eight, and Generation II introduced the fewest Poison-type moves, with only {{m|Sludge Bomb|one}}.
* With the exception of {{p|Arceus}} holding a {{DL|Plate|Toxic Plate}}, there is no Poison-type [[Legendary Pokémon]]. This makes it the only type without any persistent Legendary Pokémon.
* Only a few Poison-type moves do not have a chance to poison their target (under normal battle conditions).
* In [[Generation I]], the Poison type is {{DL|Damage modification|super effective}} against {{type|Bug}} Pokémon, while the Bug type is super effective against Poison-type Pokémon. This trait has never been shared with any other type match-up and is likewise no longer true.
* The Poison type is the only one of the original 15 types not mentioned in the song [[2.B.A. Master]]. Instead, the "Flame type" (which doesn't exist) is mentioned.
* A Pokémon of every type except Poison was added to the [[List of Pokémon by Sinnoh Pokédex number|Sinnoh Pokédex]] in {{game|Platinum}}.
* Only odd numbered generations have introduced pure Poison-type Pokémon.
** Also, every such generation has a two stage family of blob-shaped, pure Poison-type Pokémon: {{p|Grimer}} and {{p|Muk}} in Generation I, {{p|Gulpin}} and {{p|Swalot}} in Generation III, and {{p|Trubbish}} and {{p|Garbodor}} in Generation V.

==In other languages==
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|ja=どく (毒) ''Doku''
|zh_cmn=毒 ''Dú''
|nl=Gif
|fi=Myrkky
|fr=Poison
|da=Gift
|de=Gift
|no=Gift
|el=Δηλητηρίου ''Dilitiriou''
|he=רעל ''Ra'al''
|id=Racun
|it=Veleno
|ko=독 ''Dok''
|pl=Trujący
|pt_br=Veneno Venenoso
|pt_eu=Veneno
|ru=Ядовитый ''Yadovityi''
|es=Veneno
|ro=Otravă
|sv=Gift
|th=พิษ
}}

[[de:Gift (Typ)]]
[[es:Tipo Veneno]]
[[pt:Tipo Poison]]

[[fr:Poison (type)]]
[[it:Veleno (tipo)]]
[[ja:どく]]
[[pl:Trujący (typ)]]
[[zh:毒（属性）]]

Talk:List of unobtainable items

2014-12-21T18:28:08Z

AndyPKMN: /* NPC Key Stone items */

==Expand?==
Should this be expanded to include stuff like the Surfboard and Teru-sama from older generations? [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 16:10, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
:Not a bad idea. Go for it. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:48, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
::OMG! I was just thinking of that when i saw the discussion page! :) [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 11:21, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
:::I've done it. Just add in the Items you need to add. Thanx [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 11:43, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
::::And turtwig a made it incomplete... [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 15:38, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::I didn't make it incomplete. All I did was add the incomplete tag to show that the list wasn't complete yet. Also, the {{tt|two words|or one word and a letter}} in my username are capitalized. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:40, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::Thats what I meant. Sorry about the capitals. Can you teach me some wiki so I can make a table? Because i read the guide and i didn't get it. can you show me how to do it? [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 15:44, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::If you mean for this article, most articles about items that list them don't use tables. If you mean a table in general, I put a guide to make it on your talk page. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 16:46, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

== Wait ==

TM51 contains Flash? Does it go Flash, Strength, Surf, Fly, Cut, then, with Cut at TM55? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:07, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

== "List of dummied out *key* items"? ==

This list includes a lot more than just key items. Should we move it to "List of dummied out items" or something? Of course with the {{2v2|Black|White}} rush, I know we're all busy.

Anyway, might be worth a look, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 21:22, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
:I agree with this suggestion. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 14:33, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

== Suggestion ==

Shouldn't we put the dummied out items of Leafgreen, Firered,Black, and White in the article?Just a suggestion.--[[User:Mewmewmanga|Mewmewmanga]] 21:41, 27 November 2011 (UTC)♪♫
:If someone finds them/there are any, we will. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:28, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

== Generation V items? ==

Are any of the following Generation V dummied out items: [[Cherish Ball]], [[Sacred Ash]], [[Mulch]], [[Honey]], [[Lock Capsule]], Generation IV [[Mail]], [[List of items by index number (Generation V)]] numbers 428 to 536. Also, are any of those FireRed/LeafGreen items that exist in Emerald's coding for some reason "dummied out items"? ~[[User:Enervation|Enervation]] 02:24, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
:No, those don't count. Maybe Lock Capsule, but lets wait a little longer on that one. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:27, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

==Missing Generation I items==
I know that there's other items missing from the list for Generation I... I don't know the specifics since I don't use emulators or GameShark or anything, but I know of that least two more. There is an item called COIN and an item called ????? (which is not the Surfboard... it's a second item with the same name with a different effect). Someone should look into these and add them.

I just looked at a text dump and those seem to be the only two that are missing. [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 03:44, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
:Thanks for bringing this up. I was going to add those items to the list, but I was busy on [[Starfy Wiki]] and totally forgot to do so. I'm familiar with some of their specifics. If you change the items in any [[PokéMart]], you can actually buy individual [[Coin#Trivia|Coin]]s for 10 Pokédollars per coin. The trivia section on Coin's page had some speculation on it, so I've since removed it. The second ????? has an index number of 44 (0x2C). Unlike the "surfboard" (0x07) this item does not appear to have a use at all, and gives Professor Oak's unusable message when you try to use it. I believe that 0x07 is actually programmed to act the way it does, and I've found it interesting that its index number is [[List of items by index number (Generation I)|directly after]] that of the Bicycle, but it could just be a coincidence.

:There is [[List of items by index number (Generation I)|another item]] that is a duplicate of PP UP, occupying index number 50 (0x32). The interesting thing about it is that it has a price of 9800 Pokédollars, which may suggest that the developers put it there in case you were going to buy PP Ups at one point. The real PP Up (0x4F) does not have a buy price (forcing it in a Poké Mart allows you to buy it for 0 Pokédollars). It does follow Nugget (0x31), but Nugget's buy price is 10,000 Pokédollars. Although it shares PP Up (0x4F)'s name, it appears to be unusable and gives Oak's unusable message when you attempt to use it. The item is similar to two items in [[Generation II]], but I'm not convinced they're related. They are "TM04" (dec:195, 0xC3) and "TM28" (dec: 220, 0xDC) and directly follow the index numbers of the real items. They can't be used, but they are found in the items pocket and do not have valid "buy" prices.

:The Safari Ball should probably be added to this list. I know that that it has a description on {{g|Stadium (Japanese)}} (it uses EUC-JP encoding), in addition to all games from [[Generation II]] and onwards. Additionally, IIRC the Japanese names of the Badges are the "unused names" (offset 4A92). (I added details about those unused names on the list of items by index number page under another section) and {{user|SnorlaxMonster}} helped me with what one of the names translated to. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 17:22, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

== Possible incorrect information? ==

So, I was playing Blue Rescue Team, and I was checking the board by the Pelipper Post Office for missions.
Suddenly, a reward caught my eye: the '''Mime Jr. Fig'''!
I had played around with Gameshark on my Red, and I got the notion that it was unused, especially due to its text.
Other internet sources confirmed my suspicions... until now.

I am aware of the existence of Wonder Mail Generators, but I assure you I have not used them.
I only wish I had immediately saved so I could take a pic of it on the board.
Now that it's in my Job List, all I have is the Wonder Mail code:

?6MC Y1Y? F369
KH?X 9MNR J6?W

I can take a pic of it in my Jobs List, though that wouldn't prove much.

The point is, should the Mime Jr. Fig (and presumably the Weavile Fig) be considered dummied?
While it has no use, it ''is'' normally obtainable. {{unsigned|Fishaman P}}
:While you can obtain [[Pokémon doll#Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|the items]], they are stored outside the Team Base rather than in the bag. Unless you mean that after you did the mission, it went into your bag and stayed there? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 01:36, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Huh. I could have sworn you got the statues/dolls for doing star missions, and that I had come across the beta items. Darn.{{unsigned|Fishaman P}}

UPDATE: It was just the doll/statue for outside the base. False alarm.
{{unsigned|Fishaman P}}

To sum it all up, the Mime Jr. Fig (and Weavile Fig) should be taken out of the list since they can be obtained legitamently by wonder mail. [[User:Zoomer364|Zoomer364]] ([[User talk:Zoomer364|talk]]) 23:56, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

== Why nothing for Generation III? ==

If there were no dummied out items, maybe we should indicate that? As is, it's really confusing. --[[User:WyndFox|Wynd]] [[User talk:WyndFox|Fox]] 05:21, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

== Badges ==

According to [http://forums.glitchcity.info/index.php/topic,6472.msg189793.html#msg189793 this guy], the apparently superfluous badge items are used internally for the guy you talk to about the badges in Cerulean. Can someone verify this? I'm guessing they'd still count as dummied out, but it's probably worth noting on the article if correct. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 17:42, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

== God Stone ==

According to TCRF, [http://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_Black_2_and_White_2 it's removed] from B2W2. The graphics are still in the game, including the "key item obtained" graphic. Someone may want to check that (also Mom apparently has text for {{rt|10|Unova}}... interesting) [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 11:05, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
:Okay, God Stone is still in. Someone should check the "key item obtained" graphic, though. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 09:50, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

== 8F ==

"Arbitrary code execution" isn't a intended function, and 8F is a glitch item. (It is used to display floors in elevators). If 8F is to be included, wsm, 6F, 1F, B1F, and everything else should be too. Still, 8F is a interesting item and does deserve a page. --[[User:Pokechu22|Pokechu22]] ([[User talk:Pokechu22|talk]]) 21:09, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
:So... how should we do it? [[Glitch]]'s Glitch Items section links here. [[User:Snuggles08|Snuggles08]] ([[User talk:Snuggles08|talk]]) 12:04, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
::I'm not quite sure. However, thinking about it, 8F is actually a dummied out item. However, so are 6F and the other similar items, as for whatever reason item names were used in menus. On the other hand, creating a {{redlink|List of glitch items}} page, similar to this one but with information like [http://glitchcity.info/wiki/index.php/ItemDex?sort=hex-asc GCL's itemdex], would work fairly well. But there would also be overlap, as the badge items are both dummied out items and glitch items. --[[User:Pokechu22|Pokechu22]] ([[User talk:Pokechu22|talk]]) 21:57, 3 April 2014 (UTC) 
:::I've have no confirmation, but I've heard the badge items are used internally for someone that tells you about them. [[User:Snuggles08|Snuggles08]] ([[User talk:Snuggles08|talk]]) 15:43, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
::::Just realized what you said. But are the badges glitch items, or dummied out items? [[User:Snuggles08|Snuggles08]] ([[User talk:Snuggles08|talk]]) 15:45, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
:::::Um. Hm. I guess they are both. In the same way, the #F items are dummied out though, as they are used for the elevator. Their effects make them glitch items. I can say for certain that other glitch items would fit only in the dummied out category. Hm. --[[User:Pokechu22|Pokechu22]] ([[User talk:Pokechu22|talk]]) 15:48, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
::::::Just so you know, I put 8F there. [[User:Snuggles08|Snuggles08]] ([[User talk:Snuggles08|talk]]) 18:10, 11 April 2014 (UTC)/
:::::::Ah, ok. 8F does belong and it doesn't belong. I wish I could make a choice. The arbitrary execution information could go on a different page, but I'm not sure where as that is kind of hard to explain. But information on the other #F items would be useful. --[[User:Pokechu22|Pokechu22]] ([[User talk:Pokechu22|talk]]) 18:36, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

== Added 5F ==

I helped the wiki! Woooo!

5F brings a Unknown Opcode when used, so if you do the Fossil Glitch to get it, be careful when using it, if you are on a emulator SAVESTATE and on a normal cartridge SAVE BEFORE PREFORMING THE GLITCH.
[[User:MrOmNomNom3|MrOmNomNom3]] ([[User talk:MrOmNomNom3|talk]]) 17:20, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

== NPC Key Stone items ==

It makes me uneasy listing the NPC Key Stone items here. My assumption is that the game allows NPCs to Mega Evolve by giving them the Key Stone item as a key item. It's necessary to use the individual names for them because it's displayed when they perform the Mega Evolution. If my assumption is correct, they are used in the game (so not dummied out), they're just not supposed to be obtained by the player. The fact that the Mega Anchor, etc. are in ORAS strengthens this suspicion. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:22, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

:Can NPCs actually HAVE key items like the player can? I wasn't aware that that was possible. In either case, the intro to the page defines dummied-out items as "items that appear in the internal data of Pokémon games, but are not obtainable as inventory items by any legitimate means in that game or set of games." Unless that definition is changed then items like the NPC Key Stones would still technically qualify, as the player can't obtain them legitimately. —[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 18:28, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Mega Evolution

2014-12-21T18:15:41Z

AndyPKMN: /* PokéGods? */

*[[Talk:Mega Evolution/Archive 1|Archive 1]]

== Image for Mega Rayquaza ==

Given that Rayquaza's page has an image for its Mega Evolution, shouldn't this article have one as well? I'd add it in myself, but I am not allowed to edit the page, so could someone add one for me, please? [[User:Uncle Edit|He's here! The one and only...Uncle Edit!]] ([[User talk:Uncle Edit|talk]]) 21:17, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

:Bump [[User:Uncle Edit|He's here! The one and only...Uncle Edit!]] ([[User talk:Uncle Edit|talk]]) 17:34, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
::I believe we're waiting for the official artwork to come out before adding it. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 19:03, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
:::I understand that official artwork take priority before anything else, but why does Rayquaza's page have an image but not this one? It really doesn't make sense to me. Of course, in the event we decide to use said image for both articles, we can remove it once official artwork comes out for Mega Rayquaza. That screen-cap certainly isn't something that we should use permanently. [[User:Uncle Edit|He's here! The one and only...Uncle Edit!]] ([[User talk:Uncle Edit|talk]]) 19:22, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

==Separate Mini-Sections==
I was thinking that if it should come to it ''Pokémon capable of Mega Evolution'' can have the entries split up into two separate mini-sections: ''Introduced in X and Y'' and ''Introduced in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire''. However I would like to wait first until more information comes out first before doing such as thing. If the new Mega Pokémon are confirmed to be incompatible with X and Y then I would definitely support this idea. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 17:01, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
:Nice Idea. But what do you mean "''incompatible''" ? → [[User talk:PikaTepig999|'''''P''ika''T''epig999''']] 17:18, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
::We might or might not get a patch that updated XY with ORAS megas (the only that pre-exist in XY are the Lati@s mega). [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 17:21, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
:::It is also the same as how Pokémon with newer forms that were introduced in Platinum and Black & White 2 were not compatible with the original games (Diamond & Pearl and Black & White). -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 17:25, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
::::There's not gonna be a patch. So now it will be better if the megas are divided into two sections. → [[User talk:PikaTepig999|'''''P''ika''T''epig999''']] 15:32, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
:::::You cannot know that. It won't hurt anything to at least wait until ORAS is released. Then we'll at least know exactly what to say about how the Mega evolution compatibility is handled between ORAS and XY. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:47, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

== Ice has two now ==

Fix the trivia [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 13:10, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
:It's fixed. Thanks for the reminder. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 14:45, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
::While you're at it, Electric also has the least (2), the same as ice. Fix it, okay?--[[User:Omojuzeforever|Omojuzeforever]] ([[User talk:Omojuzeforever|talk]]) 15:32, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
::And Psychic has 10, not 9. Dragons have 9 though..--[[User:Omojuzeforever|Omojuzeforever]] ([[User talk:Omojuzeforever|talk]]) 15:33, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

== Lati@sites tradeable to XY? ==

Does the game let you trade the Lati@sites over to XY? If so should a little note be added mentioning that these mega-stones are in the code for XY despite not being made available till ORAS? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] ([[User talk:Jmvb|talk]]) 01:54, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

== PokéGods? ==

Is it plausible to assume that some ideas for Mega Evolution might have been inspired by the infamous [[PokéGods]] that were popular in the fandom back in the 1990s and early 2000s? If so, this should be added as trivia. A good source on PokéGods is the RAGECANDYBAR project site ([http://www.blue-reflections.net/ragecandybar/projects/pokegods/ link]). [[User:SatoMew2|Sato]][[User talk:SatoMew2|Mew]] 17:26, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

:No, I don't think so. While the possibility that Game Freak could have possibly been inspired by such rumors may exist, there's zero reason to ASSUME that they were inspired by them, especially since to my knowledge Game Freak has never acknowledged those rumors before. —[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 18:15, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Sootopolis City

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AndyPKMN:

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'''Sootopolis City''' (Japanese: '''ルネシティ''' ''Rune City'') is a city located off the eastern mainland of [[Hoenn]].

Sootopolis City is located inside a crater formed by a volcano. Many years ago, an underwater volcano erupted and forced itself up from the depths creating a crater, the hollowed volcano. Its crater emerged from the sea and became filled with rainwater. People soon began to dwell in the crater for its warm, fresh water and a city soon came forth. To get around the city, people have to climb many flights of stairs and {{m|Dive}} under the sea. This made many of the locals get into good shape. Sootopolis City has a fantastic nighttime view. The stars peer in through the top of the crater.

Sootopolis City plays a major part in the games, as it is the location where the player has their first encounter with a legendary Pokémon, and obtains their final [[Badge]].

In the [[Pokémon games]], Sootopolis City can only be reached by diving through an underwater cavern or by {{m|Fly}}ing. Sootopolis is surrounded by {{rt|126|Hoenn}}.

In [[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire]], it is revealed that Sootopolis City was in fact created from a giant meteor that crashed into the oceans of the [[Hoenn]] region.

==Places of interest==
[[File:Sootopolis City RS.png|left|thumb|170px|Sootopolis City in Ruby and Sapphire]]
===Cave of Origin===
{{main|Cave of Origin}}

The [[Cave of Origin]] is located in Sootopolis, in {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}} it contains {{p|Groudon}} and {{p|Kyogre}} respectively, while in {{game|Emerald}}, Wallace is there, wondering where {{p|Rayquaza}} could be.

===Residential houses===
{{p|Barboach}} and {{p|Shroomish}} can be shown to a pair of residents, who will calculate their size and reward prizes of {{DL|Ether|Ether}}s and {{DL|Ether|Elixir}}s accordingly. In Pokémon Emerald, they will calculate the sizes of {{p|Seedot}} and {{p|Lotad}} instead.

In Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, instead of size, they're arguing over which is cuter. Showing them a Barboach or Shroomish with an [[Pokémon-Amie|affection level]] of at least 4 will award you with a {{DL|Ether|Max Elixir}} once for each species.

===Sootopolis Gym===
{{main|Sootopolis Gym}}

[[Wallace]] was the [[Gym Leader]] in this city. He uses {{type|Water}} Pokémon, and is the one who handed out the eighth [[Badge|Gym Badge]] of [[Hoenn]]. However, his former teacher [[Juan]] resumed his role as the [[Gym Leader]] in {{game|Emerald}}, with the student moving on to become Champion of the Hoenn League and replacing {{Steven}} from previous versions.

===Move Tutor===

In Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, in the north-eastern part of Sootopolis City there is a house with an elderly gentleman within it. If you speak to him with a Dragon-type Pokémon of high happiness, he will teach it the special move, [[Draco Meteor]].

==Demographics==
===Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire===
In {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}, the population of Sootopolis City is 39. This is a large population considering the city being settled inside a dormant volcano and its isolation from the other [[Hoenn]] cities.

==Poké Mart==
{{shop|Generation III}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Ultra Ball|1200}}|{{shopitem|Hyper Potion|1200}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Max Potion|2500}}|{{shopitem|Full Heal|600}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Revive|1500}}|{{shopitem|X Attack|500}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|X Defend|550}}|{{shopitem|Max Repel|700}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Shadow Mail|50}}|}}
{{shopfooter|multiple=yes}}
{{shop|Generation VI}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Poké Ball|200}}|{{shopitem|Great Ball|600}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Ultra Ball|1,200}}|{{shopitem|Potion|300}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Super Potion|700}}|{{shopitem|Hyper Potion|1,200}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Max Potion|2,500}}|{{shopitem|Full Restore|3,000}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Revive|1,500}}|{{shopitem|Antidote|100}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Paralyze Heal|200}}|{{shopitem|Awakening|250}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Burn Heal|250}}|{{shopitem|Ice Heal|250}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Full Heal|600}}|{{shopitem|Escape Rope|550}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Repel|350}}|{{shopitem|Super Repel|500}}}}
{{shoprow|{{shopitem|Max Repel|700}}}}
{{shopfooter}}

==Items==
{{Itlisth|water}}
{{Itemlist|TM Fighting VI|Given by the Black Belt with the Kecleon in the northwestern house|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{TM|31|Brick Break}}}}
{{Itemlist|None|sprite=Doll Wailmer III|Given by girl in the house just east of the Pokémon Center|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes|OR=yes|AS=yes|display=[[Pokémon doll#Generation III|Wailmer Doll]]}}
{{Itemlist|Super Potion|North of Kiri ''(hidden)''|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}}}
{{Itemlist|Protein|Behind the house southeast of the Pokémon Center ''(hidden)''|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|Vitamin|Protein}}}}
{{Itemlist|HM Water|Gift from Wallace in front of the Gym after calming Groudon and Kyogre|E=yes|display={{HM|07|Waterfall}}}}
{{Itemlist|Ether|From {{tc|Fisherman}} if shown a big enough {{p|Barboach}}{{sup/3|RS}}/{{p|Seedot}}{{sup/3|E}}|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes|display={{DL|Ether|Ether}}}}
{{Itemlist|Elixir|From {{tc|Hiker}} if shown a big enough {{p|Shroomish}}{{sup/3|RS}}/{{p|Lotad}}{{sup/3|E}}|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes|display={{DL|Ether|Elixir}}}}
{{Itemlist|Max Elixir|
* From {{tc|Fisherman}} if shown a {{p|Barboach}} with affection level of at least 4
* From {{tc|Hiker}} if shown a {{p|Shroomish}} with affection level of at least 4|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|Ether|Max Elixir}} ×2}}
{{Itemlist|TM Bug VI|From a {{tc|Collector}} in the Poké Mart|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{TM|83|Infestation}}}}
{{Itemlist|Sablenite|Southeast from the entrance to the Cave of Origin|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{DL|Mega Stone|Sablenite}}}}
{{Itemlist|None|From [[Maxie]] before entering Cave of Origin|OR=yes|display={{key|VI|Magma Suit}}}}
{{Itemlist|Red Orb VI|From Maxie after confronting {{p|Groudon}}|OR=yes|display={{DL|Legendary artifacts|Red Orb}}}}
{{Itemlist|None|From [[Archie]] before entering Cave of Origin|AS=yes|display={{key|VI|Aqua Suit}}}}
{{Itemlist|Blue Orb VI|From Archie after confronting {{p|Kyogre}}|AS=yes|display={{DL|Legendary artifacts|Blue Orb}}}}
{{Itemlist|Eon Flute|From {{Steven}} after confronting Groudon{{sup/6|OR}}/Kyogre{{sup/6|AS}}|OR=yes|AS=yes|display={{key|VI|Eon Flute}}}}
{{Itlistfoot|water}}

===Berries from Kiri===
Kiri will give the player two Berries each day.
{{Itlisth|water}}
{{Itemlist|Pomeg Berry|Obtained from [[Kiri]] in the southwest part of city|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes|OR=yes|AS=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Kelpsy Berry|Obtained from [[Kiri]] in the southwest part of city|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Qualot Berry|Obtained from [[Kiri]] in the southwest part of city|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Hondew Berry|Obtained from [[Kiri]] in the southwest part of city|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Grepa Berry|Obtained from [[Kiri]] in the southwest part of city|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Tamato Berry|Obtained from [[Kiri]] in the southwest part of city|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Cornn Berry|Obtained from [[Kiri]] in the southwest part of city|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Magost Berry|Obtained from [[Kiri]] in the southwest part of city|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Rabuta Berry|Obtained from [[Kiri]] in the southwest part of city|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Nomel Berry|Obtained from [[Kiri]] in the southwest part of city|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Figy Berry|Obtained from [[Kiri]] in the southwest part of city|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Iapapa Berry|Obtained from [[Kiri]] in the southwest part of city|Ru=yes|Sa=yes|E=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Wiki Berry|Obtained from [[Kiri]] in the southwest part of city|OR=yes|AS=yes}}
{{Itlistfoot|water}}

==Pokémon==
===Generation III===
{{Catch/header|water|no}}
{{Catch/div|water|Surfing}}
{{Catch/entry3|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|yes|Surf|5-35|100%|type1=Water}}
{{Catch/div|water|Fishing}}
{{Catch/entry3|072|Tentacool|yes|yes|yes|Fish Old|5-10|30%|type1=Water|type2=Poison}}
{{Catch/entry3|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|yes|Fish Old|5-10|70%|type1=Water}}
{{Catch/entry3|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|yes|Fish Good|10-30|100%|type1=Water}}
{{Catch/entry3|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|yes|Fish Super|30-35|80%|type1=Water}}
{{Catch/entry3|130|Gyarados|yes|yes|yes|Fish Super|5-45|20%|type1=Water|type2=Flying}}
{{Catch/footer|water}}



==In the anime==
[[File:Sootopolis City anime.png|thumb|200px|Sootopolis City in the anime]]
In the {{pkmn|anime}}, the volcano Sootopolis is built upon opens up at one side, giving access to ferries. It appeared in the episodes ''[[AG110|The Great Eight Fate!]]'' and ''[[AG111|Eight Ain't Enough!]]''. {{Ash}} had his battle with [[Juan]] here, obtaining his final [[Hoenn League]] [[Badge]].

==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
[[File:Sootopolis City Adventures.png|thumb|left|Sootopolis City in Pokémon Adventures]]
Sootopolis City was first mentioned in ''[[PS192|Stick This in Your Craw, Crawdaunt I]]'' by [[Mr. Briney]] when his {{p|Whiscash}}, Whisko, was sensing earthquakes with its whiskers and that many earthquakes have happened there.

The fight between {{p|Groudon}} and {{p|Kyogre}} mainly took place in Sootopolis City.

==Trivia==
* Sootopolis's Japanese motto is {{tt|れきしがねむるしんぴのまち|Rekishi ga nemuru shinpi no machi}} ''"The mystical city where history slumbers"''.
* Sootopolis City appears to be based on the {{wp|Greece|Greek}} {{wp|List of islands of Greece|island}} of {{wp|Santorini}}, also known as Thera.
* The background music used in this city is a remix of music from {{g|Pinball}}, specifically that which plays during the "Name Entry" screen.
* In {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}, if the {{player}} goes to the highest house on the right side of the city (the side with the [[Pokémon Center]]), stands on the stairs outside, and hits the "left" direction on the d-pad, it is possible to use a [[glitch]] to walk on part of the rock wall. This was corrected in {{game|Emerald}}.
* This is the only city in the Pokémon world which requires the use of {{m|Dive}} in order to be reached for the first time.
* [[Junichi Masuda]] named an NPC in Sootopolis after his then new-born daughter, Kiri.
* Sootopolis City is the most recent place where {{p|Groudon}} and {{p|Kyogre}} have battled each other in the wild.
** In addition, it is the last location where the [[weather trio]] met at once.
* Sootopolis City is the only city or town located in the middle of a single route, and also surrounded completely by one.

==Name origin==
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| Japanese
| ルネシティ ''Rune City''
| Possibly from ルネサンス ({{wp|Renaissance}}), 流 ''ru'' (flow), 瑠璃 ''ruri'' ({{wp|lapis lazuli}} or its blue color), and 涅 ''netsu'' (underwater soil containing alum that is traditionally used in dying black or dark colors)
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| English
| Sootopolis City
| From ''soot'', which is expelled when a volcano erupts, and ''polis'', Greek for city
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| French
| Atalanopolis
| Possibly from ''{{wp|Atlantis}}'' and ''polis'', Greek for city. May also be derived from ''{{wp|Vanessa atalanta}}'', whose French name (Vulcain) is derived from volcano.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| German
| Xeneroville
| Possibly from ''xeno-'' (foreign), ''cenere'' (Italian for ash), or ''nero'' (Italian for black) and ''ville''
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Italian
| Ceneride
| From ''cenere'', ash
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Spanish
| Arrecípolis
| From ''arrecife'' (coral reef) and ''polis'', Greek for city
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Korean
| 루네시티 ''Rune City''
| Same as the Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and mainland China}})
| 琉璃市 ''Liúlí Shì''
| Rough transliteration of its Japanese name. Can be taken as "Colored glaze city" or "glass city".
|}
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Talk:Mr. Bonding

2014-12-19T22:21:57Z

AndyPKMN:

==Fanon Speculation==
In one of the right-side rooms of the right-side portion of Sea Mauville, the player character can discover papers apparently left by one of the higher-ups after the facility's closure. It states repeatedly, "I am a man with no power ...", which is the same statement made by the "Powerless man" in Mauville Hills who later becomes Mr. Bonding. Possible connection? [[User:Luprand|Luprand]] ([[User talk:Luprand|talk]]) 07:44, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
:It's hinted very strongly that they're one-and-the-same. But I don't know how best that should be included on the wiki... —[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 22:21, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Sea Mauville

2014-12-19T22:16:53Z

AndyPKMN:

==Scanner==
You know, I am playing OR right now, and can't find the Scanner or fight Spiritomb. I didn't finish the game yet (just now coming to the Groudon Incident), so I think you have to beat the game for that. --[[User:EVguru|EVguru]] ([[User talk:EVguru|talk]]) 17:25, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
:You definitely don't need to beat the game (I know because I got Spiritomb prior to becoming Champion), but chances are you DO need to deal with Groudon and subsequently get the National Dex from Professor Birch. —[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 22:16, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 13

2014-12-19T22:11:49Z

AndyPKMN:

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==Previous discussions==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10|Archive 10]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 11|Archive 11]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 12|Archive 12]]

== Problems with main page ==

I've been having a few issues with the main page. I can't click on the 'discussion', 'view source', 'history' or 'watch' buttons. Those buttons work on most other pages, so as far as I know, it's just this page. Also, these errors only occurred after the update. [[User:Cacnea7642|Cacnea]][[User Talk:Cacnea7642|7642]] 16:00, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:Everything seems to be working fine on my end. Does anyone else seem to be having this problem? [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 16:30, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
::Are you using Google Chrome? Because I am having the same issue with Chrome but it seems to be working fine in other browsers, which is very weird since I never had such problem with Chrome in the past. ♫♪ [[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']] ♪♫ 17:39, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:::Firefox won't let me click on any of the main page tabs other than article. --[[User:Charlie|Charlie]] ([[User talk:Charlie|talk]]) 17:50, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
::::After a bit of investigation, I think I've found and fixed the problem. Because of where the fixes were (i.e. not on the page itself but other pages that this depends on) it may take some time for the fix to actually take effect on your end. If it's still not working after giving it a day clearing your cache, let me know. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 23:44, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::It's all working again now [[User:Cacnea7642|Cacnea]][[User Talk:Cacnea7642|7642]] 15:55, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::At the end of the page, where the boxes appear (Enciclopediae Pokémonis and Nintendo Independent wikis), the reference to Bulbapedia is a redirect. As far as I know, it's a little stupid to have a link leading us to the same page! [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''The''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''Original''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''One''']] 10:40, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I don't see what you mean TheOriginalOne. That link to Bulbapedia is linking to the home page of our site, if it didn't link to the mainpage (where we already are) then what would it link to? '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 16:10, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
::::::::It doesn't make sense to have a page linking to itself, so I think we should put the word "Bulbapedia" in bold, without linking to anything; the bold sign would indicate the users that they're already on the page. [[User:TheOriginalOne|'''The''']][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|'''Original''']][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|'''One''']] 14:54, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

== Quotes ==

Can we make a ``Notable Quotes`section? [[User:TeamPlasmaN1212|TeamPlasmaN1212]] ([[User talk:TeamPlasmaN1212|talk]]) 21:11, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
On second thught, blast that. [[User:TeamPlasmaN1212|TeamPlasmaN1212]] ([[User talk:TeamPlasmaN1212|talk]]) 18:30, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I meant thought. [[User:TeamPlasmaN1212|TeamPlasmaN1212]] ([[User talk:TeamPlasmaN1212|talk]]) 18:31, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
:You do know you could have just edited what you said rather than making more clutter? [[User:BisumitoIsSnazzy|BisumitoIsSnazzy]] ([[User talk:BisumitoIsSnazzy|talk]]) 18:52, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

== Just curious; ==

On the main page, it states that Bulbapedia is supported by Bulbanews, Bulbagarden Archives, and Bulbagarden Forums. Shouldn't that mean it's supported by the National Bulbagraphic, too? Excuse me if this is an obvious question, I had just joined today. [[User:BisumitoIsSnazzy|BisumitoIsSnazzy]] ([[User talk:BisumitoIsSnazzy|talk]]) 18:27, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

I think it's a good idea too but I just submitted yesterday so don't know how much my opinion counts.....[[User:Insert Pokè-name|Insert Pokè-name]] ([[User talk:Insert Pokè-name|talk]]) 06:13, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
:I don't think "supported by" is the correct term. They are all parts of [[Bulbagarden]]. The National Bulbagraphic is a part of Bulbanews. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:42, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
::National Bulbagraphic is currently not in production. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:20, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
:::Is National Bulbagraphic specifically discontinued? If so, should its link in the Bulbagarden links section to the left of the page simply be merged into Bulbanews or the Bulbanews archive?[[User:Squirrelfeet|Squirrelfeet]] ([[User talk:Squirrelfeet|talk]]) 22:45, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

==I have a question...==
Okay, so lately, with the release of Black and White 2, Bulbapedia has put news from it on the front page. Just out of curiosity, are they going to go back to putting articles daily on the front page? [[User:JacobTheDoduo|JacobtheDoduo]] ([[User talk:JacobTheDoduo|talk]]) 20:37, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
:It's been pretty much decided that we're going to stick with just leaving the news feed up. It was very time consuming to replace the featured articles every day and we felt that this was easier. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 20:45, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
:: Thank you. [[User:JacobTheDoduo|JacobtheDoduo]] ([[User talk:JacobTheDoduo|talk]]) 20:47, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
:::It was fun reading daily featured article in the past. I sure hope Bulbapedia goes back to posting daily articles. It's been confusing to see the same twitter feed everyday "[[User:SimonOrJ|SimonOrJ]]"([[User:SimonOrJ|U]]/[[User talk:SimonOrJ|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/SimonOrJ|C]]) 21:27, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

== When is black and white 2 going to be in the U.S. ==

Hey, do you know when is black and white 2 going to be in the U.S. {{unsigned|Chezalpern}}
:[[Pokémon Black and White Versions 2|This page]] is where you should look at first before asking questions about it. To answer your question, it's October 7th. --[[User:Funktastic~!|It's Funktastic~!]] ([[User talk:Funktastic~!|talk]]) 22:11, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
::Are we having a countdown for it on the front page, like for Black and White? - ''signed comment from [[User:GoldenCelebi|GoldenCelebi]] ([[User talk:GoldenCelebi|pedia talk]] • [[Bulbanews:User talk:GoldenCelebi|news talk]] • [[a:User talk:GoldenCelebi|archives talk]])'' ''18:16, 28 September 2012 (UTC)''
:::A MediaWiki update broke our counter and we haven't been able to find a suitable replacement yet. So no, we won't be. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:39, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

== National Bulbagraphic ==

Is National Bulbagraphic specifically discontinued? If so, should its link in the Bulbagarden links section to the left of the page simply be merged into Bulbanews or the Bulbanews archive? [[User:Squirrelfeet|Squirrelfeet]] ([[User talk:Squirrelfeet|talk]]) 16:05, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

In an above statement under the section "Just curious" a similar question was asked, and the darklordtrom stated that National Bulbagraphic is officially discontinued. Please make sure to read above sections before posting questions :). Thanks. ([[User:Charizard101|Charizard101]] ([[User talk:Charizard101|talk]]) 20:03, 30 September 2012 (UTC))

::He said that it was not in production. I was just checking what that meant or if it would come back. Considering that it is not in production, should it not be moved to the archives?[[User:Squirrelfeet|Squirrelfeet]] ([[User talk:Squirrelfeet|talk]]) 12:50, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
:::I'm thinking that National Bulbagraphic is probably not going to come back, but as for if it should be moved to the archives, that is a question that someone like MAGNEDETH or darklordtrom could easily answer. ([[User:Charizard101|Charizard101]] ([[User talk:Charizard101|talk]]) 14:04, 14 October 2012 (UTC))

== Unova Pokedex ==

I was browsing Amazon the other day looking at prices of stuff for the TCG when I came across the new Unova Pokedex from Jakks. I was wondering if I could make an article for the item since we also have an article for the Diamond and Pearl one. I believe I have enough information to create an article, though I can't upload pictures, so someone else would have to do that. ([[User:Charizard101|Charizard101]] ([[User talk:Charizard101|talk]]) 20:21, 30 September 2012 (UTC))
:I think it deserves a page. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:09, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

== Images aren't loading ==

Well, most of the. I first noticed this on Dewott's page.--[[User:Goomba98|Goomba98]] ([[User talk:Goomba98|talk]]) 15:32, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:No images that are normal (as in, they're hosted on Archives; the logo near navigation is fine) are loading for me. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 15:34, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::Same here, I thought I messed up somewhere while editing. I hope the staff are aware of the issue and are working on it. [[User:TheyCallMeMellowCello|TheyCallMeMellowCello]] ([[User talk:TheyCallMeMellowCello|talk]]) 18:20, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:::The images on that page appear to be loading fine for me. Maybe check that your addons are not blocking the images? [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 18:31, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::::I disabled all my Add-ons, and pictures are still not showing up. This doesn't just happen on Dewott's page, but other pages as well. Edit: I checked an image itself (the ones that are not showing up) and I get a 404 error. Maybe this is because of the server move? [[User:TheyCallMeMellowCello|TheyCallMeMellowCello ♫♩♪]] ([[User talk:TheyCallMeMellowCello|talk]]) 18:40, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::I think it may be your cache drawing the images from before the move. The images might be at different locations now. Clear your cache. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 18:56, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::That did nothing. Images still aren't loading for me. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 19:08, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::<s>If possible, you should be able to see the images by switching to another computer. I am not sure if going to the Archives page for each image would help the issue, but it would if the cache is cleared before hand.</s> [[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 19:16, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::::I'm having these issues as well. At first I had them on my mobile phone, at which the pictures were boxes with a ? on them and showed the link info, but then I got on my laptop and the pictures are still now showing. What's going on here? --[[User:Flufflemonster|Flufflemonster]] ([[User talk:Flufflemonster|talk]]) 19:48, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::I've got this too [[User:Volcronaperson|_Volcronaperson_]] 19:50, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::Sorry for doubting you, but it seems that there is an issue somewhere. It seems that the .png files are not displaying correctly on some {{tt|browsers| Internet Explorer 8 or 9 on Windows Vista; Google Chrome 21, Safari 5.1.7, Firefox 11.0, and Firefox 15.0.1 on a Mac OS X 10.6.8 are not displaying the files as they should be.}}. I would suggest using a browser that can display .png files that are animated for the time being. [[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 19:55, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::It's not a browser thing. They're no longer working for me, now that I'm using a different internet connection but the same browser. We'll look into it, but it's possible that it's due to certain internet connections not directing traffic properly after the move. It may not be a quick fix. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:59, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::::So much for my guess. At least the images are still viewable on the Archives. [[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 20:09, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Related to that, and as an added note, given that some images seem to be working some of the time: If an image isn't loading and you want to see it, click on it, and then click on the "description page" link to it on the archives. Please, ''please, '''please''''', don't sit there refreshing the page or continually trying to reload the image. Doing that is ''not'' going to make it load. What it will do is increase the load on our servers, making it so that ''less'' loads. It makes any problem worse. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:48, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::::: That just gives 404 not found [[User:Volcronaperson|_Volcronaperson_]] 23:27, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::::::: In extreme cases, it gives out a 503 error. (Loss of server.) Back on topic, what was the problem with some of the images? --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:53, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::What I meant, was not navigate to the image itself, but navigate to the image on the archives. And the problem was that the main server had crashed, blocking all traffic. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:04, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::How come the archives access their images from the archives, while Bulbapedia accesses images from cdn2.bulbagarden? [[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 10:57, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::Because wikis are set up to only access images that are loaded on them. The Content Delivery Network (CDN) takes the images on the archives and distributes them to Bulbapedia and Bulbanews. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 18:32, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

== Automagically redirected to pornographic site ==

So I was surfing on my iPhone 3G with iOS 4.2.1 {{tt|yesterday|2012-10-13}} in between 12:50 AM UTC and 1:20 AM UTC (don't remember exactly what was the time) when I fired up Mobile Safari and directed the browser to Bulbapedia's main page. Now, I don't remember tapping anything on the screen but there's a chance I did without noticing it. Either way, I'm not convinced it was accidental tapping. What happened is that I suddenly got redirected multiple times through the ad network until I reached [http://www.ipinkvisualpass.com/pt/sx/iphone/home/updates/?revid=66054&campaign=20996&viewSpeed= this], which is a pornographic site. Now, I don't have anything against adult-themed content as I'm 19 but why in hell was I sent there in the first place? I demand an explanation. [[User:SatoMew2|Sato]][[User talk:SatoMew2|Mew]] 23:05, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
:Actually, it was in between 11:50 PM UTC of 2012-10-12 and 12:20 AM UTC of 2012-10-13. My bad. I forgot I'm currently on summer time. [[User:SatoMew2|Sato]][[User talk:SatoMew2|Mew]] 23:12, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
::Please report all disturbing or disruptive ads to [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f195/bad-ad-reporting-thread-29680/ this thread] [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 23:18, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
:::OK, I shall do it later as I need to create an account at BMGf first and it's a bit late now around here. [[User:SatoMew2|Sato]][[User talk:SatoMew2|Mew]] 23:33, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

== Pedia down? ==

Was it? It seems it was earlier… --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 03:59, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
: I think Bulbapedia was down earlier, along with Video Game Wiki. I tried several times, even exiting out of my browser and going back in, but that didn't work. I think something was up with the servers the wikis run on. ([[User:Charizard101|Charizard101]] ([[User talk:Charizard101|talk]]) 02:55, 26 October 2012 (UTC))
::Video Game Wiki...? If that's a Wikia site, their downtime is unrelated to Bulbapedia's downtime. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:44, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
:::Then can anyone tell me what Bulbapedia's being down was all about? I was slightly confused about that. ([[User:Charizard101|Charizard101]] ([[User talk:Charizard101|talk]]) 01:02, 27 October 2012 (UTC))
::::On the 22nd and the 23rd UTC, Bulbapedia was down for quite a few errors. Due to B2W2 server load, the servers have been unstable. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 01:06, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
:::::Okay, thanks for the info. After the big server move they did, I can see why they might have some problems. ([[User:Charizard101|Charizard101]] ([[User talk:Charizard101|talk]]) 01:52, 27 October 2012 (UTC))
::::::Is the broken layout and random downloading of pages related to this?[[User:Goomba98|Goomba98]] ([[User talk:Goomba98|talk]]) 00:31, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
:::::::No, not at all. This is a different issue (I think). If anything, it is the software that is broken. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 00:36, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

== Downloading pages ==

I am the only one with this problem? Some random times, instead of load a new page my computer donwloads it. Is it my problem or is a bug on the website? --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] [[User talk:Gabo 2oo|(talk)]]
:It's some super annoying bug right now. I'm just going to sleep and hope it's fixed by tomorrow. (I'm on the US east coast, so it is bedtime now) {{m|Yawn}}... --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 03:32, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

== Userspace edit limit - pages to be put into mainspace ==

I am going to be writing a major section for an article here, but it will be spread across several days, and want to merge it all in to the article at one time. So I am asking if the userspace edit limit applies to sandbox-like pages which will have information that will be put into the main namespace. So...does it? [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 00:23, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
:Just keep it under 3, preview, don't do them within minutes of each other, and don't forget about the mainspace. The staff are more lenient on those kind of pages. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 00:27, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
::We're more lenient with stuff for the mainspace, but they're not unrestricted. I have to ask why the section can't be written into the actual article. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:06, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
:::I can keep it under 3 edits a day - it probably would be only 1 or 2. The section is large and technical, and I do not want to post an incomplete work into the mainspace - it could cause users to flood the talk page, edit it themselves (which would be horrible for the WIP), some might revert (with the way I work, initial versions might not end up looking like professional content, especially with notes all over the place in comments), and, worst comes to worst, I might keep an edit lock open for a period of 3 hours at a time - hardly an appropriate amount of time for mainspace. I would be making judicious use of the Preview functionality, as I am not entirely familiar with WikiCode. I will be merging the work into the appropriate mainspace page when it is completed.
:::I also wonder how capable Bulbapedia is of linking external images. The WIP section will probably have WIP images (hosted on my domain), and I would prefer to link those externally rather than uploading to the Archives for now, mainly to reduce server load.
:::And the main reason I ask is because the top bar is currently limiting userspace edits to 1/day, not the usual 3/day we had for quite a while. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 01:40, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
{| style="float:right"
| http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/archive/e/e0/20100401001626%21BulbaBot.png
|}
::::As you can see, I have externally linked an out-of-date image from the Archives. It's useful. And that's how you do that. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 02:02, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

== One request and two questions ==

* I wanted to inform you that Pokémon Central Wiki has moved its Main page from Pagina principale to [[it:Home]], could you please change the link on Bulbapedia's Main page?
* I also noticed that the Portuguese wiki is not working at all, it tells me that the page does not exist (the same error that appears when you try to surf the Internet with no connection), is it a Country problem (I'm Italian) or is it something else?
* When it shows me the 503 error what should I do, can I try to refresh the page immediately or should I wait 5 minutes before trying again?--[[User:CiaobyDany|CiaobyDany]] ([[User talk:CiaobyDany|talk]]) 21:03, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
:According to my browser, the Portugese wiki is down/out of service/dead. If you recieve a 503 error, the staff recommend to wait a few minutes before you refresh. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 21:42, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

== What? ==

Bulbapedia's recently being marked by Opera or Firefox as dangerous website. What the- [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 12:32, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
:See [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f195/bulbawiki-site-issues-thread-39109/index12.html#post4528618 this thread from this post onwards]. We know, and have contacted Google about fixing it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:48, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

== Bulbanews ==

What's wrong with Bulbanews? Nothing's appearing on the Main Page and the Front Page of Bulbanews's "Current Events" section is blank. Is that supposed to be happening? By the way, I'm using Safari. [[User:KyuremsIceBlade|KyuremsIceBlade]] ([[User Talk:KyuremsIceBlade|Talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/KyuremsIceBlade|Contribs]]) 21:17, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
:Some old article pictures were being changed recently and has somehow affected the story picker, which displays the recent stories/current events on the main pages. It should be fixing itself soon though. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 21:25, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
:: Some new news. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHiHpa77-xc [[User:Mesuxelf|'''Mes''']][[User talk:Mesuxelf|'''ux''''''elf''']] 01:05, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

== Pokéteca (Spanish wiki) Main Page link is a redirect ==

The link posted on the Main Page to [[es:Portada]] is actually a redirect. The correct link should be [[es:Página principal]]. Could someone please update this? Thanks! [[User:ChiefbozX|ChiefbozX]] ([[User talk:ChiefbozX|talk]]) 00:35, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
:I have fixed it. Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 00:55, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
::The link on the sidebar also needs a correction; it currently goes to [[es:Página Principal]] (as we all know, links are case-sensitive). Thanks for correcting the one in the [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis]] box. [[User:ChiefbozX|ChiefbozX]] ([[User talk:ChiefbozX|talk]]) 21:44, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

== Flags symbolizing languages ==

I'll put this here as there seems to be no better option on-wiki: [http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/flags.html Why you should not use a flag as a symbol of language], [http://flagsarenotlanguages.com/blog/why-flags-do-not-represent-language/ Why flags do not represent languages]. Specifically, [[Template:Epilang]] (there may be other cases, too) always makes me uncomfortable. I know you guys really like graphics and colors, but just... don't do it this time. Also, the links to the "respective" (that's some serious quotation marks I put there) 'Pokémon in [country]' pages... [[User:Mewtwo745|Mewtwo745]] ([[User talk:Mewtwo745|talk]]) 09:32, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

== Redirect to adult sites? ==

I'm writing this to report a serious problem I've had since a few months: while I'm on bulbagarden sites, I get redirected to an adult site and I can't return on the previous page. At first I thought it was a bad ad I opened inadvertently, but now I know for sure it is not that case. It first happened around december, and it got worse within the time... By now it almost happens once each fifty pages I open more or less. I usually get this problem on Bulbapedia, but it also happened once on the archives. It still haven't got this problem on the other bulbagarden sites but I think it's because I usually don't go on them. It is not a browser problem, since it happened with opera, chrome mobile and another mobile browser. I don't know if the fact I'm in Italy matters. I wrote down the site I get redirected to when I'm on the tablet. I don't have the desktop site because now I usually use my tablet, and I didn't think of writing down the URL. I first thought to add the link hidden in this discussion, but anybody could have still opened it. If you need it I can send it by email. Thanks for your attention--[[User:CiaobyDany|CiaobyDany]] ([[User talk:CiaobyDany|talk]]) 08:21, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
:There are two possibilities here: 1) there's some rouge ad that's automatically redirecting you (without you even clicking it), which we would want to remove ASAP if we can or 2) you have a virus. If it is the former, then we want to know about it so it can be dealt with, so please post as many details as possible about it [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f195/bad-ad-reporting-thread-29680/ in the Bad Ad Reporting Thread]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:59, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
::As you suggested I reported it on the forum. I did read the notice at the beginning of the page, but I didn't think it was an ad problem. Feel free to delete this discussion and thanks again.--[[User:CiaobyDany|CiaobyDany]] ([[User talk:CiaobyDany|talk]]) 21:30, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

== Question ==

Why hasn't the message from the editor been updated since ''December 20?'' Also, can someone help me fix my signature? [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] ([[User talk:Spyspotter|talk]]) 13:05, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
:The message from the editor is updated when we have something significant to post about. When that time comes, a new message from the editor will be posted. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 22:18, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

==Non-existing pages==

Whenever I click on a link to a non-existing page, a random set of characters (such as IA"});) appears. Why? [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] ([[User talk:Spyspotter|talk]]) 13:46, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
:Could you provide a specific example? The redlinks work okay for me. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 22:18, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

== Welcoming new users ==

Wow! Not even the ''administrators'' could spend ''10 seconds'' welcoming users. I just welcomed 30+ users. The easiest way to welcome users is to go [[Special:User creation log|here]]. Can't the administrators just do their duty{{tt|*|Please don't laugh.}}? [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] 21:27, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
:You are aware of the large number of spambots we've been getting, right? A good chunk of those "users" might not even be people. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 22:04, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
::To follow on from Ataro's message, as a result of the mass of spambots, we've been waiting for users to make their first edits before we welcome them with the template{{tt|*|Ask for a potential reason this may be first, to prevent situations like this where you come off as a bit of a twerp.}}.--[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 22:35, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
:::Just want to say that as a non-staff member, I follow the same idea so as to not worry about welcoming bots and vandals. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 22:51, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

== "Synopsis" ==
Bulbapedia is sprawling with examples of lengthy, detailed, written accounts of short works of fiction which are (downright absurdly) labeled "Synopsis". Anyone who believes that this labeling is appropriate should consult a dictionary. They need to be either rewritten as actual synopses, or simply relabeled. I am in favor of the former, since the aforementioned (comparative) length and detail of the summaries, coupled with narratives that are often completely off the mark as summaries, but rather retells the work of fiction anew (as a story itself), render many of the site's "Synopsis"-sections highly unencyclopedic. I post this to engage in dialogue, so tell me what you think should(n't) be done, please. [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 14:41, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
:Yeah, they should probably be called "Plot". I don't think we should remove massive amounts of information to just make them actually comply with the definition of a word that was incorrectly used to label them—simply, the label should be changed. I agree, a lot of them are basically stories themselves, and they shouldn't be. These sections should be written detailing what happened in present tense, not using any kind of emotive language. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:26, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
::Then we agree on that much. How will we go about renaming the sections? I suggested those massive amounts of information for removal under the assumption that an actual synopsis, and little more, was the degree of plot summary initially/ideally desired by an encyclopedia such as Bulbapedia. In other words, I believe that the scene-by-scene relaying, attempting to substitute the subject media content, as opposed to summarize its key points and provide the reader with an overview and some understanding of the work, is uncharacteristic of an encyclopedia, more fitting as content for other kinds of websites, or Bulbapedia's appendix namespace. That's my opinion, included since it ties in with the topic I brought up for discussion, but I realize that it isn't going places. As for ridding the sections of emotive language, I presume that this is already a long-established work in progress, carried out by editors who happen to read these sections, so nothing new there. Thank you for replying. [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 15:36, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
:::They're still labeled as synopses. I can't imagine anyone disagreeing here, the suggestion is not pedantic, the change would be kind of easy to implement—what's the hold-up? [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 13:48, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
::::So it's been decided that all "Synopsis" sections will be renamed "Plot", and an official blurb should be added where possible. {{u|Maverick Nate}} has already begun work on this. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:00, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

== Sounds ==

We should use sounds. I'm pretty sure Wikipedia uses them, and besides, if our wikicode can handle videos, then it can handle sounds. If we can install sounds, we would be able to have Pokémon cries and possibly music themes{{tt|*|You could make them loop around to cut recording lengths, as most music themes are less than 2 minutes long}}. [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] 18:08, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

== Categorize the main page ==

It seems weird that there is even 1 uncategorized page. The main page would fit well in the Bulbapedia category{{tt|*|I can't link it because if I did this talk page would be put into the bulbapedia category.}}. [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] 02:24, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

== Ads ==
Adds have been appearing on every page I visit, coming from the lower border of the screen, even when I'm already logged in, it's very bothering specially for editing. Since I haven't installed anything lately and it only happens on this site, I just wanted to make sure if this comes actually from Bulbapedia and will still happening, or not. It is? --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 01:28, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
:We did some stuff to our ad listings today, and clearly something is not quite right. We are aware of it and working on it. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:43, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
::On my browser, there are ads that pop up and say, "Find out more about what is changing and why. Find out more about this new ad unit." It requires me to turn it off, which can warp me to a different page, which is annoying while editing. And needless to say, this is happening while I'm logged on. [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] [[User talk:Spyspotter|says…]] Edit the mainspace, [[Special:ListUsers|kids!]] 02:23, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
:::[https://twitter.com/Bulbapedia/status/343206410974269441 It's a technical issue]. It will be fixed as soon as possible. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:19, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

==2 Problems==

1. The search bar blocks part of the page, which is annoying especially when editing.

2. I don't know where else to post this, so I'll post it here. Whenever I try to post on the forums, there is no typing field and instead there is an indigo-colored blank space between the post title and the other stuff.

Can someone fix those errors? [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] [[User talk:Spyspotter|says…]] Edit the mainspace, [[Special:ListUsers|kids!]] 03:17, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
:It may be an issue with your browser, what browser do you use and how long has the problem been occurring? '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 03:54, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
::IE and Safari. The problem's been going on for as long as I was here. [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] [[User talk:Spyspotter|says…]] Edit the mainspace, [[Special:ListUsers|kids!]] 03:56, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Hmm. I checked on my Safari and both the search bar and forum seem fine. I don't have IE so I can't check that. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 04:07, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
::::Are you using the most recent version of IE and Safari? [[User:G50|''ㄱ'']][[User talk:G50|''쉰'']] G50 04:15, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
:::::IE 10 won't download, but IE 9 should work. Safari is fully updated and it has the two problems. [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] [[User talk:Spyspotter|says…]] Edit the mainspace, [[Special:ListUsers|kids!]] 12:04, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

==Long-Running Script==

Whenever I visit a page that isn't in the main or talk namespace, an error message will pop up 90% of the time and say that bulbapedia has stopped functioning due to a "long-running script." I then have 2 options:

1. Click "stop script," and then be redirected to a page that says Bulbagarden has been shut down permanently, and be unable to go back.

2. Click "cancel," and then watch my computer crash. The only way to fix that would be to unplug it.

First of all, what is this "long-running script?" And, how in tarnation does the "Bulbagarden shut down" message appear? And, can those errors be fixed somehow? [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] [[User talk:Spyspotter|says…]] Edit the mainspace, [[Special:ListUsers|kids!]] 02:49, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
:What browser and addons are you using? That might help us try to nail down what's causing the issue. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:58, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
::I should add, this only happens on IE. Also, bigger pages are more likely to crash my computer, not to say that small ones don't. [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] [[User talk:Spyspotter|says…]] Edit the mainspace, [[Special:ListUsers|kids!]] 03:05, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

==Twitter Feed==

Am I the only one having trouble seeing the Twitter box on the main page??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] ([[User talk:1rkhachatryan|talk]]) 05:24, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
:I can't see it either. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 05:30, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
::Nor can I. I wonder what's going on with it? [[User:PokefanR|PokefanR]] ([[User talk:PokefanR|talk]]) 05:36, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Twitter updated their API today and as a result the widget we used to run the feed stopped working, we are trying to fix it. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 07:31, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

== x and y countdown ==

Now that we know the release date of x and y there should be a countdownn like the one bulbapedia had for black and white [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 06:22, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
:The system we were using for the countdown was broken by a MediaWiki update a while back and no longer works. We haven't yet got another system to function adequately in order to replace it. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:47, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
::Was it similar to the one used on [http://www.khwiki.net/Template:Countdown this page?] Because if not, that one seems to work well so long as the input date and time is valid. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 20:57, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
==Problems?==
Every time I want to access a page, it asks if I want to download it. It is only after a click the link around 20 times that I can go the page without having to download it. For example, this is what I get if I want I click "Random":
----
You have chosen to open: '''Special_Random'''
:which is a: application/x-httpd-php (2.4 KB)
:from: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net
What should Firefox do with this file?
:Open with [Browse]
:Save File
:Do this automatically for files like this from now on.
----
I tested this out with Firefox and Google Chrome, still the same error. Along with this, certain pages are styled strangely - for the editing box for editing the talkpage of the main page, the editing box is rather tiny, and the character palette has all clickable symbols underlined, any of these symbols when clicked doing nothing (with the exception of taking you to the top of the page).

On the front page, there is no light grey "Search" word in the search box, and the UTC clock has disappeared. Sometimes there is a rather medium sized space between the "Due to a security issue..." message and the "Welcome to Bulbapedia!" message. Also, sometimes the green background turns into a white background.

Also, some pages are displayed without the stylesheet.--[[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 14:17, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
:Not happening anymore. --[[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 14:19, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

== Prerelease policy suggestion ==

(Not sure whether there's a good/easily-seen place to put this, so I'm gonna put it here Just Because.) As I'm sure most people are aware, the disconnect between the Archives and Bulbapedia means that some images are stuck in their old forms for days, weeks, or months after they've been updated on the Archives. Judging by prerelease Pokémon reveals so far this generation, we're getting Sugimori art within hours or a couple of days after we put low-quality CoroCoro scans on our pages, and then the Sugimori art takes a long time to get repaired on our pages. This makes our pages look unpolished for everyone and {{DL|User talk:Reshi643|Would you please|confuses new users, leading them to unnecessarily suggest that the art be updated even though it technically already has been}}. To neutralize this problem, '''I suggest that low-quality prerelease scans use a different image file name than the final artwork'''. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 22:49, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
:As problematic as it is, one of the first reasons against it I have is that if they are uploaded as separate files, we lose the history of the file, and what we had at a specific point in time. I actually find having image histories more important in the long run than removing them in order to fix problems in the short run. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:13, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
::Point taken; I hadn't thought about that. As an alternative approach to a solution, is there any possibility of finding a way to lessen the syncing problem itself? Perhaps some kind of way of marking certain images (like these prerelease scans) as "high importance" or something to get the software to attempt to sync them more often? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:46, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
:::On the other hand, keeping the magazine scans as separate images would allow us to keep the history of the Bulbanews articles, in that we would have magazine croppings on the BN article when that was all we had, but the clean artworks when we got those. Ideally though, there would be some way to fix the Archives caches issue. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:14, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

== Pokemon - Ken Sugimori Artworks ==

Hi! I would like to ask if ever we could change all Pokemon official high quality Artworks with smaller but unified sizes from Pokemon Zukan Website? It has around 350x300 pixels in size per image and has shadows on it, png type of images. Just asking if it is okay? I just ripped all the Pokemon images from Zukan website, Thank you... --[[User:Gaspershut|''GASPER'']][[User talk:Gaspershut|''shut...'']] 06:35, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
:I don't think shadows are wanted. Also, I think that high resolution images are better as well. For artworks, consistent dimensions is not as important. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:15, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
::ahh.. Okay I'm just asking since not all Artworks are available in High Quality.--[[User:Gaspershut|''GASPER'']][[User talk:Gaspershut|''shut...'']] 08:34, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

== Anatomy Vs. Physiology ==

I already asked this if we could change all Physiology to Anatomy under Biology section or add Anatomy to it.It doesn't fit at all, that the description of the Pokemon's body parts is not Physiology. --[[User:Gaspershut|''GASPER'']][[User talk:Gaspershut|''shut...'']] 08:46, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
:The staff are currently working on a new way too present information about this section prior to the release of X+Y. So please be patient. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 03:28, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
::I'm not being frantic or anything... actually I'm not hurrying anyone I'm just asking since I already asked it, for I remember, prior the release of Pokemon Black and White. I just noticed it again when I opened my account. Thank You...--[[User:Gaspershut|''GASPER'']][[User talk:Gaspershut|''shut...'']] 12:14, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
:::I didn't think you were, but I can see how my comment may have made it sound otherwise, and I apologise for that. But it's one of the changes that will be implemented when we go through and update all the Pokémon to the new style, so you were heard and listened too :) --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 12:37, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

== Bug in Uncategorized Categories list ==

There is an issue in the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:UncategorizedCategories Uncategorized categories] list. Most of those in the list are already given categories, but are not registering properly in them. What may have caused this? [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 21:42, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
:Looks like, of those 17 results, only 1 of them should be there. Seems like a server-side issue, as purging the cache didn't do anything. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 14:06, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
::I see. Well, hopefully the issue gets resolved. Thanks for the reply. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 17:55, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

== Mega Evolutions Artwork ==

Where are we going to put them? on the pokemon pages or the mega evolution page? [[User:Volcronaperson|_Volcronaperson_]] 20:35, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
:Yes. To clarify: The art (for now, this may change to in-game images in future) Should be, and already is for most/all the ones we know about, on the [[Mega Evolution]] page. Art on the species pages is going to need a new template, which is already partially built but still a way off yet. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:06, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

== Generation VI Pokémon ==

Are the administrators waiting to add info about the new Pokémon to their pages? I was just on the [http://www.pokemonxy.com/ Pokémon X and Y Official Site] and they have limited information about some of the new Pokémon. I don't know if people are aware of this and just waiting to add it, or if we're not supposed to, or what. Just trying to help. :D [[User:KyuremsIceBlade|'''Kyurems''']][[User talk:KyuremsIceBlade|'''Ice''']][[Special:Contributions/KyuremsIceBlade|'''Blade''']] 19:11, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
:Is there something on the official site that we don't mention? [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 21:39, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
::Well, there is some information about certain Pokémon that we don't have, such as a tidbit I saw about {{p|Honedge}}. It says: "If you were to carelessly take this blade in hand, you may find that blue cloth wrapping around you... draining the energy from your body!" Also, it says {{p|Inkay}} has transmitters above its eyes that can drain the will to fight from other Pokémon, and it says {{p|Malamar}} has some of the strongest hypnotic powers of any Pokémon, it can make other Pokémon bend to its will, and many people try to use it for nefarious purposes. I bet there's more, but this should be going on the species articles, not the Main Page. [[User:KyuremsIceBlade|'''Kyurems''']][[User talk:KyuremsIceBlade|'''Ice''']][[Special:Contributions/KyuremsIceBlade|'''Blade''']] 19:30, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
:::This is just a guess, but I have a feeling those might end up being Pokédex entries. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 20:28, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
::::That's what I was starting to think, too as I read more of them... well, thanks for listening and replying. [[User:KyuremsIceBlade|'''''KYUREM'S''''']] [[User talk:KyuremsIceBlade|'''''ICE''''']] [[Special:Contributions/KyuremsIceBlade|'''''BLADE''''']] 12:00, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

== Differently color-coded generatons ==

I noticed today that the colors commonly used for generations (i.e. Orange for Generation V, green for Generation III) have been swapped with different colors. The normally used orange for Generation V is now a light blue color. I now that this isn't a top priority thing, but, I was just wondering. [[User:PokefanR|PokefanR]] ([[User talk:PokefanR|talk]]) 22:49, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
:You can find an in depth reason for the color changes {{ut|Kogoro#Region colors|on my talk page}}. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 22:54, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

== X&Y party/item sprites ==

You can rip the 2D sprites seen in screens like the inventory and Pokémon lists by using a 3DS capture card and ripping them the classic way (i.e. taking screenshots and cutting the sprites out). Just throwing that out there.[[User:Goomba98|Goomba98]] ([[User talk:Goomba98|talk]]) 01:29, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

== Ampersands in titles ==

For articles that contain ampersands (& ←like this), clicking the edit top of page link or new section link leads to a window where you end up editing a page with a title that goes up to before the first ampersand. For example: editing [[Black & White TCG Series merchandise|this page]] in this manner leads to editing [[Black|this page]] instead. In other words, the ampersand performs a cutoff. How can this be resolved? [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 23:00, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
:That doesn't seem to be happening for me. The ampersands that are part of the page titles end up being replaced by the character code "%26", thus avoiding the cutoff, when I go to edit the page you used as an example. Out of curiosity, what web browser is this happening on? [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 23:18, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
::This is on a Safari browser. Haven't checked IE yet. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 23:59, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
:::If the problem is happening on Safari, I would not recommend using IE as an alternative, it will probably still happen. I'm on Chrome, and that replaces & with %26. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 00:21, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
::::Likewise, Firefox also replaces ampersands with %26. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 00:36, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
:::::Actually, I'm reproducing Berrenta's glitch in Firefox. The problem arises not from clicking the "edit this page" link but rather from the "[edit top of page]" link to edit the top-most section. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|'''Miles''']] ([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|talk]]) 00:39, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
::::::Yup, reproducing it in Chrome using the Edit top of page link. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 00:41, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Well then, seeing as I never use that "Edit top of page", it's understandable why I never noticed it. The issue does not seem to happen when editing sections, either. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 01:01, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
::::::::Yeah, it also used to occur when trying to follow a redlinked page with an ampersand in the tile (although it seems to work fine now). To prevent the issue, I guess adding <nowiki>__NOEDITSECTION__</nowiki> to the top of any page with an ampersand in the title would work; for [[Pokémon Box Ruby & Sapphire]], I just protected {{redlink|Pokémon Box Ruby}} to prevent accidental creation. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:23, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::Looks like that because the first section is set up in a special way, <nowiki>__NOEDITSECTION__</nowiki> has no effect. If there is no page at the part of the title before the ampersand, it should be create-protected. Otherwise, just avoid using "edit top of page" of pages with ampersands in them. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:26, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::Would it be possible and feasible to force redirect a section back into editing the lead. Example: Edit "Arceus LV.X Deck: Grass" to feature a redirect to Arceus LV.X Deck: Grass & Fire (TCG) in editing mode? --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 06:53, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::: :/ Since I just realized that wouldn't work, would a better idea be to move the articles with "&" to "and" while including {{template|wrongtitle}} in the lede? Especially since the search function doesn't play well with the ampersand. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:42, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::::What issue is there with the search function? I've never heard of that one before, and I can't find it. & only causes minor issues, so since it is technically possible to use in titles, I think we should. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:51, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::::I was referring to searching for anything containing an "&" prevents any results from showing up. [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=%26&fulltext=1 Example] --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:55, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Results show up if the searched text contains an &, it's just not if you ''only'' search an &. All special characters are ignored on the search page, so you get the same result if you search ! or @. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:11, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
:Okay, tested in Internet Explorer, and it seems to work normally there, as & was properly converted to %26. Seems the issue only applies to certain browsers, like Safari. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 18:15, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
::Kogoro updated the code, but because of where it is, it's very slow to update. Browser choice has nothing to do with the issue at all, simply the javascript that encoded those links had failed to 'escape' the page title, and with the limited knowledge of javascript among active staff it took us a while to figure out how to fix it. Also, something to note is that it does not escape the characters @*/ and + The only of which should matter is the rarely used +. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:16, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
:::Well, I tested again on Safari today, and it seems to work properly now. Thanks for the update! ^_^ [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 22:03, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

== Bad news ==

I learned that Hiroshi Yamauchi died so please add the news. article {{unsigned|PokeSerbia}}

here's an link
http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Draft:Former_Nintendo_President_Passes_away {{unsigned|PokeSerbia}}

:Since that is a Bulbanews article, which is under the same figurative roof as Bulbapedia, it's likely going to be reflected here soon enough in full detail. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 14:50, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

==Twitter==

Is the twitter feed down again??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] ([[User talk:1rkhachatryan|talk]]) 22:54, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Nevermind lol, my computer just glitched for a second.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] ([[User talk:1rkhachatryan|talk]]) 22:55, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

==Forums==

Um are the forums down or is it just my computer??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] ([[User talk:1rkhachatryan|talk]]) 17:32, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
:The forums were indeed down but they should be working fine now. [[User:Adyniz|'''Adyniz''']] — [[User talk:Adyniz|'''Wanna talk?''']] 17:58, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

== Type charts on Gen VI Pokemon ==

The full Gen VI type chart has been released, so why don't any of the Gen VI Pokemon have a type chart on their pages? [[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] ([[User talk:ArchedThunder|talk]]) 00:31, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
:The {{template|Type effectiveness}} template is currently only compatible with Gen V, and alot of stuff has to be updated with Gen VI coming out, so it's all a matter of patience. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 04:23, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

== Names of Pokemon games in general ==
Hey! Just wanted to bring this giant post I just typed elsewhere to your attention, instead of retyping the same info over again: http://vgmdb.net/forums/showpost.php?p=56272&postcount=3
In short, Japan stopped using "Pocket Monsters" outside of the katakana when R/S dropped, and at the same time Nintendo as a whole started up a consistent branding scheme (actually I'm not ''entirely'' sure how it scales to ''everything'' else but) that most people don't seem to notice (only with X/Y has this been changed (for the better)). Because of this, I believe we (and Wikipedia, and everywhere else) needs to rethink how we handle the game titles. There's a reason things like the albums refer to themselves as "Pokémon", and it's not to be "import friendly".
If I've come across as a bit brusque, I apologize, but I find it a bit silly that this has gone unnoticed for a decade! [[User:Despatche|Despatche]] ([[User talk:Despatche|talk]]) 08:26, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

:I get your point that in Japan the English name of the games is "Pokémon Ruby" etc. after RS, but I'm not entirely sure what you're suggesting. The italic English text next to Japanese names is supposed to be a translation of the text, and there is a katakana difference between "Pokémon" and "Pocket Monsters", so they are translated as such where appropriate. It is important to note that the Japanese text does say "Pocket Monsters", as in Japan the main series is officially the "Pocket Monsters series" [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game-series/]. Also, it's worth noting that Pokémon Stadium does the exact opposite of what you mentioned: the katakana says "Pokémon", but the Latin text says "Pocket Monsters" (for all three games). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:15, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

::Ah, sorry. I'm suggesting that we should use "Pokémon" as that transliteration for these later games instead of "Pocket Monsters", because that's what Nintendo does... we do the same for Pokemon themselves, for example. The trick is that you really want to avoid transliterating if you can help it; you can produce multiple official titles out of what looks like one. Basically, what's happening is that you have a katakana (here, anyway) title that is always used within itself, and a Roman-based title that is always used within itself--"進撃の巨人" and "Attack on Titan" is similar--two ''completely'' different titles used within the same context to refer to the same work (at the same time). That page may say "ポケットモンスターシリーズ", but you can bet it would have used "Pokémon" if they could help it.
::And yeah, with the Stadium case, those games were part of the old branding, which used "Pokemon" whenever it pleased. Technically, "Pokémon" is actually part of a "phrase shortening" trend that's pretty common in Japanese ("Famicom"'s a great example, and this is also why the term is even "Pokémon" to begin with), so it was occasionally used by Nintendo wherever they felt; Pokemon Puzzle Challenge became "Pokemon no Panepon" (heh, "Panepon" is another example of that shortening, being short for Panel de Pon) for its Japanese release, for example.
::(Fun fact: technically the katakana isn't actually "Pocket Monsters" transliterated; there's a common tendency (it's totally random!) to remove the final S/Z sound at the end of plurals in these transliterations, so it's ''really'' "Pocket Monster". "ポケットモンスターシリーズ" is a great example of with and without, in fact. Platinum is similar; the katakana actually reads "platina" (a word usually used to refer to alloys of platinum) and at least [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/otanosimi/platina/aikotoba/ one Nintendo website] uses this.) [[User:Despatche|Despatche]] ([[User talk:Despatche|talk]]) 06:03, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
:::I think I get your point, but the problem is that the "English name in Japan" is not an accurate translation of the actual text. Pokémon names are only alternate romanizations, not alternate phrases entirely. Pokémon and Pocket Monsters are used distinctly, so the translation should accurately reflect this. In your Attack on Titan example, were we to have an article on it (it's not relevant to Pokémon, so we shouldn't), it would be formatted as
::::'''Attack on Titan''' (Japanese: '''進撃の巨人''' ''Advancing Titans'')
:::However, I do take your point that it would be useful to note the official Asian-English names of the games, but the problem is that in the case of Pearl (for example), we have ポケットモンスター officially as ''Pokémon'', but nothing for パール. (Asian-English is a term used in Yu-Gi-Oh, so I'm borrowing it here for clarity; there may be a better term, but it will do for the circumstances.) For the record, platinum in Japanese comes from the Spanish word "platina" rather than the English one, thus why it is formatted as such (or at least, that's what I remember being told by my high-school Japanese teacher). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:50, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
::::1. "Pokémon" is most definitely a distinct title from "ポケモン", even. Titles are not about meaning, not ever; they are always about physical structure. It's pretty obvious that there are three different titles used (for whatever reasons there may be) to refer to the same work: "Pokémon", "ポケモン", and "ポケットモンスター". What else is there to it? (As a sidenote, I disprove of the preference for translations, specifically over romaji... where can I open a discussion about that?)
::::2. That sounds like a pretty good case for not having romaji ''at all'', doesn't it? Fortunately, Nintendo at least provides "Platinum" here (nearly every single Japanese page on the game uses it), and likely provides the same for the other games (at the least, they outright use "Pokémon <version>" on every soundtrack album since Ruby and Sapphire's). [[User:Despatche|Despatche]] ([[User talk:Despatche|talk]]) 06:22, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

== Unknown Dungeon ==

I either cannot or am unable to find where to create a page for the Unknown Dungeon in Gen VI that holds mewtwo. Could someone make this? The dungeon's entrance is in Pokémon Village.

[[User:TheJaceX|TheJaceX ]] ([[User talk:TheJaceX|talk]]) 21:17, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

== Time for archive 13? ==

I mean this page is getting pretty big! [[User:Bill Gates|Bill Gates]] ([[User talk:Bill Gates|talk]]) 20:58, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

== Suggestion ==

I know we changed the Pokemon artwork images to a square ratio for practical reasons, not aesthetic ones, but now that they're the standard, other articles with Sugimori images — [[Valerie]] is the one I noticed, but most humans' articles, in fact — look abnormal because they break this new standard. Can we just apply the square requirement to all official art used in infoboxes so things match aesthetically? (I know this is totally not a priority and thus will absolutely not happen at least until the XY info is all put up, but I thought I'd suggest it to be implemented at some point in the future.) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:50, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
:This was actually something we bought up whilst making the decision to square the images of Pokemon. With the character art a lot of the pictures are a fair bit taller then what they are wide, whereas with Pokemon, the difference is to a much less significant degree. As a result, when the character images are forced to comply with the infobox a significant amount of quality is loss. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 06:11, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

== Pokémon X and Y sprites and icons ==

I just wanna ask when you guys will have the X and Y icons and sprites. [[User:Raichu8575|Raichu8575]] ([[User talk:Raichu8575|talk]]) 15:50, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
:"Sprites" in the traditional sense don't really exist anymore; Pokémon in Gen VI are represented by fully in-motion 3D models with no single "still image" to really take as a sprite. That's probably why in the Evolution section of any Pokémon page, you'll see official artwork instead of the current sprite like there used to be. The Sprites section may end up being something that only goes up to Gen V now. As for the icons? I saw some Gen VI icons around a few days ago but they're since been removed, apparently. No clue why. --[[User:Kianglo|KiANGLO]] ''([[User talk:Kianglo|TALK]])'' 22:57, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
::Likely if we can get the files, we might create a model section for each Pokémon, though it isn't possible at the moment. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 00:03, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
:::There's still party sprites, even for completely new Pokémon. They're also used when choosing a Friend Safari to enter. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 00:05, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
::::I know, and like I said I saw them before; on a type page I think, when it listed all the Pokémon of that type. Gen VI Pokémon were there, icon and all. Maybe someone uploaded icons but they got taken down? --[[User:Kianglo|KiANGLO]] ''([[User talk:Kianglo|TALK]])'' 03:26, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::Yes, they were taken down because the user who uploaded them admitted to stealing them from Serebii. The images will be uploaded once someone can get them themselves and not steal them from other sites.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:50, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::I would just like to add to this that Nintendo has solved our problem for us, the update for 3DS that is coming this month adds Miiverse support and the ability to take screenshots whenever you want and have them posted to Miiverse. Obviously we can have people go and take pictures of every Pokemon and we can remove the background and use those as the "sprites". If any staff is reading this I would gladly help with this once the update is out, as I know it will be a huge undertaking.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] ([[User talk:ArchedThunder|talk]]) 08:53, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Well... The update came out and for some reason you can't take pictures of Pokemon X and Y... I hope they update it so you can.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] ([[User talk:ArchedThunder|talk]]) 08:55, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

== Watchlist ==

Hi there. So I've been having trouble adding a page to my watchlist these past few days. It's the Clemont anime page and it keeps saying an error occurred. I w as just wondering if this was just me or if other people are having trouble to??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] ([[User talk:1rkhachatryan|talk]]) 17:48, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
:The "watch"/"unwatch" button at the top of the page seems to be broken. You can find my report {{DL|Help talk:Editing|Watchlist error|here}}. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 18:26, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for letting me know, I'm glad to know it wasn't just me :).[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] ([[User talk:1rkhachatryan|talk]]) 19:12, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
:Yeah, a couple of people have been reporting this problem. Just dropping a note to say that the staff is aware of the problem, and we're working to get it fixed. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 22:09, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
::Vunderbar. Glad to know something like this, even if seemingly minor, has been noticed by staff. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 22:40, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

== Volcanion, Hoopa, and Diancie ==

So I'm sure most of you have heard about the three legendary event Pokemon recently found in the coding for X and Y. So I want to ask: Why do we not have pages for them?

Obviously we don't have any info yet, and I understand that, but we had a page for [[Trevenant]] long before we even knew his English name. Couldn't we make a page for them and not have any info for them (even PokeDex number)? I know they're real, I went into the X and Y GTS and saw for my self. So I think we need pages for them.

Opinions? (And before you give them, please read my ENTIRE post. I've gotten way too many posts that have logic that I already broke in my explanation. And if you don't think my explanation is accurate, tell me why. Cuz it gets annoying when its just "NO WE DONT HAVE ANY INFO IDIOT. YOUR STUPID."

[[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 17:49, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

:That's because at the time, Trevenant's existence was confirmed by official footage. --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 17:51, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
::Before this conversation goes too far, let me redirect you to the already-ongoing discussion about these three at {{DL|Bulbapedia talk:Editor's Hub|Regarding Volcanion, Hoopa and Diancie|Bulbapedia talk:Editor's Hub → Regarding Volcanion, Hoopa and Diancie}}. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:01, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

:::Diancie now has a page, but here's what I'm wondering: why would we have pages talking about Mega Lati@s if they haven't been confirmed? Just saying. --[[User:Derpyderpy|Derpyderpy]] ([[User talk:Derpyderpy|talk]]) 14:19, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

== MediaWiki update/upgrade ==

It's what's causing some template issues right now, isn't it? And while we're at it, could the "Erika's Garden" skin be updated and fixed? [[User:SatoMew2|Sato]][[User talk:SatoMew2|Mew]] 23:13, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

== Where are the menu sprites for new Pokémon, bag sprites for Mega Stones and other newly introduced items (Assault Vest, etc.)? ==

We had them all up before but they keep getting taken down! What's the problem? Does anyone here have any idea of when they will be back up for good? It's getting really annoying to see the red error text and ? mark sprites throughout the site! [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] ([[User talk:Dialgafan1|talk]]) 20:56, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
:They were stolen from other fan sites, so they were deleted off of the archives. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 20:58, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
::That's Pokémon sprites. The bag sprites - the user claimed to have 3DS Capture Card, but hasn't given any proof within requested period of time. [[User:Uploader|Uploader]] ([[User talk:Uploader|talk]]) 21:01, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
What really annoys me the most is that if they were taken from Serebii, who honestly cares! It's gonna likely be in the exact same quality if someone were to rip the sprites with a capture card. But the law is the law. I wish we could just ask them for permission to take their stuff so we can clear this whole mess up. I honestly think no one is gonna upload the sprites anytime soon. [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] ([[User talk:Dialgafan1|talk]]) 21:06, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
:It's too early to determine that. Besides, Generation VI just started. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 21:08, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
::Joe (aka Serebii, aka webmaster of the {{tt|Serebii|yo dawg, be called Serebii and be webmaster of website called Serebii. Serebii managing Serebii... what? That's confusing.}}) will care, since he stated that he doesn't want us to use stuff acquired from his website. [[User:Uploader|Uploader]] ([[User talk:Uploader|talk]]) 21:13, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
:::To build on this, we can ask for permission to use the resources that others have put up. No one has explicitly given permission for us to do so, thus there is no sprites at the moment. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 21:19, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

== About the "characteristics" of types... ==

I noticed that within each page on the individual Pokémon types, there is a 'Characteristics' section, which describes both defensive and offensive characteristics. However, is this all really necessary? Firstly, this seems like Smogon standards, and shouldn't belong on a site that discusses only facts. Second, each 'Characteristics' section says pretty much the same thing. "It's good overall." This is just my opinion, but I don't think it's really that needed. [[User:Zorocario|Zorocario]] ([[User talk:Zorocario|talk]]) 02:13, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
:I agree. It's opinionated and, in my experience, tends to attract editors who (A) add more egregiously opinionated material that just has to be removed and (B) are especially unfamiliar with our standards of notability. I'd love to see the sections axed. All of the important unopinionated information in them is already given in the type effectiveness and average stat sections on the same pages. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:40, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

== Problem ==
Mobile View button and m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net do not load any version of the site. [[User:Snowe|Snowe]] ([[User talk:Snowe|talk]]) 06:16, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
:Same problem. Whenever I try to do either it just tells me the site doesn't exist. Tried it on both the desktop and a mobile phone. --[[User:Weavilewarrior|Weavile Warrior]] ([[User talk:Weavilewarrior|talk]]) 01:50, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
::I've had this problem with every browser i've tried. Tried on desktop and my phone, but neither work. Can it be fixed?--[[User:SamurottMaster4747|SamurottMaster4747]] ([[User talk:SamurottMaster4747|talk]]) 02:18, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
:::I think the problem is because there ''isn't'' an m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net. If you want to browse from your phone, you can go right on to the normal site. A mobile site has to actually be coded for it to exist. If no one made it, it won't just automatically be there just because you're using a phone. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 16:43,1/28/2014 (UTC)
::::But there is a mobile site option at the bottom of the homepage, which means it must be coded and existing.. --[[User:Weavilewarrior|Weavile Warrior]] ([[User talk:Weavilewarrior|talk]]) 22:23, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::The mobile option was added by a MediaWiki upgrade, but does not actually exist. Please do not use it. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 22:24, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

== Tecnical problem ==

When I'm on the home page, I get this message:
Error creating thumbnail: convert: no decode delegate for this image format `/tmp/magick-cSDv1Klr' @ error/constitute.c/ReadImage/532.
convert: missing an image filename `/tmp/transform_2ea9dab991f0-1.png' @ error/convert.c/ConvertImageCommand/3011.
--[[User:Chero|Chero]] ([[User talk:Chero|talk]]) 16:03, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
:Click the running UTC clock at the top of the page, beside your username. The images should repair themselves. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 16:27, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

== Strange occurrence ==

I'm not really sure if there's an actual place to report general site bugs, but for some odd reason, [[Special:Log]] has the edit top of page option, which does nothing except take you to Special:Log. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 19:59,2/7/2014 (UTC)

This is still a thing. I'm not sure anyone is reading this after so long, but I just wanted to point it out once more, if it hasn't been noticed. [[User:PkmnASKE|PkmnASKE]] ([[User talk:PkmnASKE|talk]]) 15:17, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

== The Speed Gamers are now offline ==

Hello there, The Speed Gamers are now offline. When do you plan to show BNN again? --[[User:Zubat101|Zubat101]] ([[User talk:Zubat101|talk]]) 17:28, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

== Mega Heracross and Mega Pinsir America Event ==

Starting today on August 13 in America, people can start getting a Mega Heracross in Pokémon X and a Mega Pinsir in Pokémon Y. This event will last until September 17 via Internet. Note; the Heracross and the Pinsir do NOT have their Mega Stones. You obtain their Mega Stones starting Monday, August 18. The end date for the Mega Stones is currently unknown.
[[User:DJMander|DJMander]] ([[User talk:DJMander|talk]]) 14:57, 13 August 2014 (UTC)DJMander 14:57, August 13

== Unless I was imagining things ==

There used to be link to the forums in "navigation" but I can't see it anymore.--[[User:Elveonora|Elveonora]] ([[User talk:Elveonora|talk]]) 20:23, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
:I think there's something wrong with the sidebar... the links all show up in [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] but not in the actual sidebar itself... ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 20:54, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
::For me, it's there. Although once, the navigation bar ''did'' derp for me, so maybe...[[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 21:43, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
:::It is there now, but when I checked about an hour ago, it only had what I would assume would be default options: Main Page, Help, Recent Changes, and Random Page. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 21:55, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
::::By "Navigation" I'm assuming you mean just the bar that says navigation, which does not have the link to the forums. There is a "Bulbagarden" sidebar right below the search bar that has the link to the forums.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:52, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
:::::That assumption is correct. The navigation sidebar was the one that goofed up and only showed four of the seven links. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 04:24, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
::::::Occasionally the sidebar hiccups and does that. It comes back eventually though. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:47, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

== Uhhhh ==

When I go to "bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net", instead of taking me to the ain page by default, it takees me to some weird "nginx" thing :/ [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 19:24, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
:It brings me to the normal Main Page, it sounds like something might be redirecting you, maybe try running a virus scan or clearing your cookies, if it still happens, report it on the forums in the Bulbawiki General Forum. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 00:33, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
::If I understand things correctly, Nginx is a web server or at least software that runs as a server. Likely, Bulbagarden uses Nginx for at least part of the network, though I think that would be a question more for the {{bp|Webmasters}}. Did it say something like "502 Bad Gateway - nginx\1.6.0" or so? --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 06:18, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

== Possible evolution in anime ==

According to the [http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/img/index/teaser/posterBig.jpg poster of M18], [[Serena's Fennekin]], [[Clemont's Luxio]] and [[Jessie's Pumpkaboo]] may evolve in the future. Could someone protect those articles? [[User:KyleRGiggs|Raymond]] 06:26, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

==StreetPass article==

It just occurred to me that the wiki could probably afford to have an article about [[StreetPass]]. Considering that it's a 3DS feature that is used by several Pokémon games for 3DS (both main series and side games), I would think an article compiling its functionality and how to access it in each game would be worthwhile. I don't have time to make that right now, as I'm focused on other things, but maybe someone else could? —[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 22:11, 19 December 2014 (UTC)