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<div>This page needs to be renamed, to something like "Unused Artwork" or "Unused Concept Art", due to the fact that somethings are not Pokémon. Also, am I the only one who sees a massive relation between {{p|Raichu}} and Honouguma, {{p|Cyndaquil}}? Nah it looks to me to be more of a possible Raichu evolution. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 19:32, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)<br />
<br />
> Why would Raichu evolve into a Pokemon without "chu" in it's name, who according to it's own name is a Fire-type?<br />
<br />
They were trying something different maybe? It just seems to bear an amazing resemblance. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]]<br />
<br />
So, Bublapedia has an article about Unreleased Pokémon, huh? Now all we need is an article on ''Fake'' Pokémon. - [[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]]<br />
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= Validity issues =<br />
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I've always found those sketches rather dubious now that I think about it. Where did they originally come from? Is there any proof at all that they are original concept art? - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 22:40, 29 June 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: Excellent question. However, I do know I remember seeing them way back then on PokéFor (note the fine print on the images) around the release of G/S. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 02:19, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:The ones that were obviously scanned look like Sugimori's style, especially the trainers. So, at the very least, "Unnamed Mammal" and "Unnamed Turtle" are real. One can even see the turtle with Tyranitar in the Male Trainer art. I don't know what those other rough sketches are, though. They aren't Sugimori. --[[User:Argy|Argy]] 05:04, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
= Commentary issues =<br />
<br />
'''Unnamed mammal'''<br />
<br />
''The Unnamed mammal has been said to resemble Hitmontop or Meowth''<br />
:Really? I definately see some {{p|Wigglytuff}} in there! [[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] 17:20, 26 November 2005 (CST)<br />
::This is gonna sound weird, but something about the design reminds me of {{p|Snubbull}}. It's the blue collar on a pink creature thing, I think. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] <sup>~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]</sup> 14:58, 6 March 2007 (UTC)<br />
<br />
'''Kurusu'''<br />
<br />
''This creature resembles a seal, but doesn't seem to have much relation to any Pokémon as of yet''<br />
: [[Image:Alpha kurusu.png]][[Image:086Seel.png]]<br />
: --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] 14:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)<br />
<br />
'''Unnamed turtle'''<br />
<br />
''A turtle Pokémon that was never released. It's possible it was later heavily reworked into Torkoal.'' <br />
:Am I the only one who sees Swampert's head in there? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] 14:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Pictures ==<br />
<br />
What website are those pictures from?--[[User:Ambipom|Ambipom]]--<br />
<br />
== Other names and additional info ==<br />
<br />
Back when Gold and Silver were about to come out, i remember there was an article in Gamepro magazine about the Japanese Gold and Silver that had a LOOONG list of beta Japanese names for the new pokemon, and the same article also had a few temporary English names. The ones I remember: Artibull instead of Smeargle and Xoqo instead of Xatu. Only problem is, that article is long gone. Can anyone help out?<br />
--[[User: Jurgen200|Jurgen200]]--<br />
<br />
Check out this list...<br />
<br />
*152 Chikorita Chicolita<br />
*153 Bayleef Beifiru <br />
*154 Meganium Meganiumi <br />
*155 Cyndaquil Hinoarashi <br />
*156 Quilava Magumarashi <br />
*157 Typhlosion Bakufun <br />
*158 Totodile Waninoko <br />
*159 Croconaw Arigeitsu <br />
*160 Feraligatr Odairu <br />
*161 Sentret Otachi <br />
*162 Furret Ootachi <br />
*163 Hoothoot Hoho <br />
*164 Noctowl Yorunozuku <br />
*165 Ledyba Rediba <br />
*166 Ledian Redeian <br />
*167 Spinarak Itomaru <br />
*168 Araidos Araidosu <br />
*169 Kurobat Kuroba<br />
*170 Chinchou Chonchi <br />
*171 Lanturn Rantan <br />
*172 Pichu Pichu <br />
*173 Cleffa Pi <br />
*174 Igglybuff Pupurin <br />
*175 Togepi Togepi <br />
*176 Togetic Togechikku <br />
*177 Natee Neitei <br />
*178 Natotem Neiteio <br />
*179 Mareep Meripu <br />
*180 Skiploom Mokoko <br />
*181 Centerity Denryu <br />
*182 Bellossom Kireihana <br />
*183 Marill Mariru <br />
*184 Azumarill Mariruri <br />
*185 Sudowoodo Usokki <br />
*186 Politoed Myorotono <br />
*187 Hoppip Hane <br />
*188 Flaffy Popo <br />
*189 Jumpluff Watakko <br />
*190 Aipom Eipamu <br />
*191 Sunkern Himanattsu<br />
*192 Sunflora Kimawari <br />
*193 Dunsparce Yanyanma <br />
*194 Ampharos Upa <br />
*195 Quagsire Nuoh <br />
*196 Espeon Efui <br />
*197 Umbreon Burakki <br />
*198 Murkrow Yamikarasu <br />
*199 Slowking Yadoking <br />
*200 Trillix Muuma <br />
*201 ????? Annon <br />
*202 Crashin Sonansu <br />
*203 Girafarig Kirinriki <br />
*204 Skarmory Kunugidama <br />
*205 Forretress Fuoretosu <br />
*206 Duglari Nokocchi <br />
*207 Gligar Guraiga <br />
*208 Steelix Haganeru <br />
*209 Snubbull Buru <br />
*210 Granbull Guranburu <br />
*211 Wobbuffet Harisen <br />
*212 Scizor Hassamu <br />
*213 Octorock Tsubotsubo <br />
*214 Heracross Herakuroso <br />
*215 Misdreavus Nyuura <br />
*216 Moonlite Himeguma <br />
*217 Soloar Ringuma <br />
*218 Slugma Magumaggu<br />
*219 Magcargo Magukarugo <br />
*220 Swinub Urimu <br />
*221 Sirnub Inomu <br />
*222 Corsola Sanigo <br />
*223 Remoraid Teppouo <br />
*224 Octillery Okutan <br />
*225 Delibird Deribado <br />
*226 Mantine Maintain <br />
*227 Wooper Eamudo <br />
*228 Houndour Derubiru <br />
*229 Houndoom Heruga <br />
*230 Kingdra Kingudora <br />
*231 Phanpy Gomazou <br />
*232 Donphan Donfuyan <br />
*233 Porygon 2 Porygon 2 <br />
*234 Stantler Odoshishi <br />
*235 Artibull Doburu <br />
*236 Hitmontot Baruki <br />
*237 Hitmontop Kapoera <br />
*238 Smoochum Muchura <br />
*239 Elekid Erekid <br />
*240 Magby Bubii <br />
*241 Miltank Mirutanku <br />
*242 Blissey Hapinasu <br />
*243 Raikou Raikou <br />
*244 Entei Entei<br />
*245 Suicune Suikun <br />
*246 Larvitar Yogirasu <br />
*247 Pupitar Sanagirasu <br />
*248 Tyranitar Bangirasu<br />
*249 Lugia Lugia <br />
*250 Ho-Oh Houou <br />
*251 Selebi Serebeii <br />
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[http://maxpages.com/ashversusgary/Gold_Silver_Pokedex Source]<br />
--[[User:Ambipom|Ambipom]]--</div>Ambipomhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_unused_Pok%C3%A9mon_and_character_designs/Archive_1&diff=144895Talk:List of unused Pokémon and character designs/Archive 12007-06-30T19:21:21Z<p>Ambipom: /* Other names and additional info */</p>
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<div>This page needs to be renamed, to something like "Unused Artwork" or "Unused Concept Art", due to the fact that somethings are not Pokémon. Also, am I the only one who sees a massive relation between {{p|Raichu}} and Honouguma, {{p|Cyndaquil}}? Nah it looks to me to be more of a possible Raichu evolution. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 19:32, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)<br />
<br />
> Why would Raichu evolve into a Pokemon without "chu" in it's name, who according to it's own name is a Fire-type?<br />
<br />
They were trying something different maybe? It just seems to bear an amazing resemblance. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]]<br />
<br />
So, Bublapedia has an article about Unreleased Pokémon, huh? Now all we need is an article on ''Fake'' Pokémon. - [[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]]<br />
<br />
------<br />
<br />
= Validity issues =<br />
<br />
I've always found those sketches rather dubious now that I think about it. Where did they originally come from? Is there any proof at all that they are original concept art? - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 22:40, 29 June 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: Excellent question. However, I do know I remember seeing them way back then on PokéFor (note the fine print on the images) around the release of G/S. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 02:19, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:The ones that were obviously scanned look like Sugimori's style, especially the trainers. So, at the very least, "Unnamed Mammal" and "Unnamed Turtle" are real. One can even see the turtle with Tyranitar in the Male Trainer art. I don't know what those other rough sketches are, though. They aren't Sugimori. --[[User:Argy|Argy]] 05:04, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
= Commentary issues =<br />
<br />
'''Unnamed mammal'''<br />
<br />
''The Unnamed mammal has been said to resemble Hitmontop or Meowth''<br />
:Really? I definately see some {{p|Wigglytuff}} in there! [[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] 17:20, 26 November 2005 (CST)<br />
::This is gonna sound weird, but something about the design reminds me of {{p|Snubbull}}. It's the blue collar on a pink creature thing, I think. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] <sup>~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]</sup> 14:58, 6 March 2007 (UTC)<br />
<br />
'''Kurusu'''<br />
<br />
''This creature resembles a seal, but doesn't seem to have much relation to any Pokémon as of yet''<br />
: [[Image:Alpha kurusu.png]][[Image:086Seel.png]]<br />
: --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] 14:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)<br />
<br />
'''Unnamed turtle'''<br />
<br />
''A turtle Pokémon that was never released. It's possible it was later heavily reworked into Torkoal.'' <br />
:Am I the only one who sees Swampert's head in there? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] 14:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Pictures ==<br />
<br />
What website are those pictures from?--[[User:Ambipom|Ambipom]]--<br />
<br />
== Other names and additional info ==<br />
<br />
Back when Gold and Silver were about to come out, i remember there was an article in Gamepro magazine about the Japanese Gold and Silver that had a LOOONG list of beta Japanese names for the new pokemon, and the same article also had a few temporary English names. The ones I remember: Artibull instead of Smeargle and Xoqo instead of Xatu. Only problem is, that article is long gone. Can anyone help out?<br />
--[[User: Jurgen200|Jurgen200]]--<br />
<br />
Check out this list...<br />
No.<br />
*152 Chikorita Chicolita<br />
*153 Bayleef Beifiru <br />
*154 Meganium Meganiumi <br />
*155 Cyndaquil Hinoarashi <br />
*156 Quilava Magumarashi <br />
*157 Typhlosion Bakufun <br />
*158 Totodile Waninoko <br />
*159 Croconaw Arigeitsu <br />
*160 Feraligatr Odairu <br />
*161 Sentret Otachi <br />
*162 Furret Ootachi <br />
*163 Hoothoot Hoho <br />
*164 Noctowl Yorunozuku <br />
*165 Ledyba Rediba <br />
*166 Ledian Redeian <br />
*167 Spinarak Itomaru <br />
*168 Araidos Araidosu <br />
*169 Kurobat Kuroba<br />
*170 Chinchou Chonchi <br />
*171 Lanturn Rantan <br />
*172 Pichu Pichu <br />
*173 Cleffa Pi <br />
*174 Igglybuff Pupurin <br />
*175 Togepi Togepi <br />
*176 Togetic Togechikku <br />
*177 Natee Neitei <br />
*178 Natotem Neiteio <br />
*179 Mareep Meripu <br />
*180 Skiploom Mokoko <br />
*181 Centerity Denryu <br />
*182 Bellossom Kireihana <br />
*183 Marill Mariru <br />
*184 Azumarill Mariruri <br />
*185 Sudowoodo Usokki <br />
*186 Politoed Myorotono <br />
*187 Hoppip Hane <br />
*188 Flaffy Popo <br />
*189 Jumpluff Watakko <br />
*190 Aipom Eipamu <br />
*191 Sunkern Himanattsu<br />
*192 Sunflora Kimawari <br />
*193 Dunsparce Yanyanma <br />
*194 Ampharos Upa <br />
*195 Quagsire Nuoh <br />
*196 Espeon Efui <br />
*197 Umbreon Burakki <br />
*198 Murkrow Yamikarasu <br />
*199 Slowking Yadoking <br />
*200 Trillix Muuma <br />
*201 ????? Annon <br />
*202 Crashin Sonansu <br />
*203 Girafarig Kirinriki <br />
*204 Skarmory Kunugidama <br />
*205 Forretress Fuoretosu <br />
*206 Duglari Nokocchi <br />
*207 Gligar Guraiga <br />
*208 Steelix Haganeru <br />
*209 Snubbull Buru <br />
*210 Granbull Guranburu <br />
*211 Wobbuffet Harisen <br />
*212 Scizor Hassamu <br />
*213 Octorock Tsubotsubo <br />
*214 Heracross Herakuroso <br />
*215 Misdreavus Nyuura <br />
*216 Moonlite Himeguma <br />
*217 Soloar Ringuma <br />
*218 Slugma Magumaggu<br />
*219 Magcargo Magukarugo <br />
*220 Swinub Urimu <br />
*221 Sirnub Inomu <br />
*222 Corsola Sanigo <br />
*223 Remoraid Teppouo <br />
*224 Octillery Okutan <br />
*225 Delibird Deribado <br />
*226 Mantine Maintain <br />
*227 Wooper Eamudo <br />
*228 Houndour Derubiru <br />
*229 Houndoom Heruga <br />
*230 Kingdra Kingudora <br />
*231 Phanpy Gomazou <br />
*232 Donphan Donfuyan <br />
*233 Porygon 2 Porygon 2 <br />
*234 Stantler Odoshishi <br />
*235 Artibull Doburu <br />
*236 Hitmontot Baruki <br />
*237 Hitmontop Kapoera <br />
*238 Smoochum Muchura <br />
*239 Elekid Erekid <br />
*240 Magby Bubii <br />
*241 Miltank Mirutanku <br />
*242 Blissey Hapinasu <br />
*243 Raikou Raikou <br />
*244 Entei Entei<br />
*245 Suicune Suikun <br />
*246 Larvitar Yogirasu <br />
*247 Pupitar Sanagirasu <br />
*248 Tyranitar Bangirasu<br />
*249 Lugia Lugia <br />
*250 Ho-Oh Houou <br />
*251 Selebi Serebeii <br />
<br />
--[[User:Ambipom|Ambipom]]--</div>Ambipomhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_unused_Pok%C3%A9mon_and_character_designs/Archive_1&diff=144894Talk:List of unused Pokémon and character designs/Archive 12007-06-30T19:14:10Z<p>Ambipom: /* Other names and additional info */</p>
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<div>This page needs to be renamed, to something like "Unused Artwork" or "Unused Concept Art", due to the fact that somethings are not Pokémon. Also, am I the only one who sees a massive relation between {{p|Raichu}} and Honouguma, {{p|Cyndaquil}}? Nah it looks to me to be more of a possible Raichu evolution. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 19:32, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)<br />
<br />
> Why would Raichu evolve into a Pokemon without "chu" in it's name, who according to it's own name is a Fire-type?<br />
<br />
They were trying something different maybe? It just seems to bear an amazing resemblance. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]]<br />
<br />
So, Bublapedia has an article about Unreleased Pokémon, huh? Now all we need is an article on ''Fake'' Pokémon. - [[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]]<br />
<br />
------<br />
<br />
= Validity issues =<br />
<br />
I've always found those sketches rather dubious now that I think about it. Where did they originally come from? Is there any proof at all that they are original concept art? - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 22:40, 29 June 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: Excellent question. However, I do know I remember seeing them way back then on PokéFor (note the fine print on the images) around the release of G/S. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 02:19, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:The ones that were obviously scanned look like Sugimori's style, especially the trainers. So, at the very least, "Unnamed Mammal" and "Unnamed Turtle" are real. One can even see the turtle with Tyranitar in the Male Trainer art. I don't know what those other rough sketches are, though. They aren't Sugimori. --[[User:Argy|Argy]] 05:04, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
= Commentary issues =<br />
<br />
'''Unnamed mammal'''<br />
<br />
''The Unnamed mammal has been said to resemble Hitmontop or Meowth''<br />
:Really? I definately see some {{p|Wigglytuff}} in there! [[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] 17:20, 26 November 2005 (CST)<br />
::This is gonna sound weird, but something about the design reminds me of {{p|Snubbull}}. It's the blue collar on a pink creature thing, I think. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] <sup>~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]</sup> 14:58, 6 March 2007 (UTC)<br />
<br />
'''Kurusu'''<br />
<br />
''This creature resembles a seal, but doesn't seem to have much relation to any Pokémon as of yet''<br />
: [[Image:Alpha kurusu.png]][[Image:086Seel.png]]<br />
: --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] 14:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)<br />
<br />
'''Unnamed turtle'''<br />
<br />
''A turtle Pokémon that was never released. It's possible it was later heavily reworked into Torkoal.'' <br />
:Am I the only one who sees Swampert's head in there? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] 14:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Pictures ==<br />
<br />
What website are those pictures from?--[[User:Ambipom|Ambipom]]--<br />
<br />
== Other names and additional info ==<br />
<br />
Back when Gold and Silver were about to come out, i remember there was an article in Gamepro magazine about the Japanese Gold and Silver that had a LOOONG list of beta Japanese names for the new pokemon, and the same article also had a few temporary English names. The ones I remember: Artibull instead of Smeargle and Xoqo instead of Xatu. Only problem is, that article is long gone. Can anyone help out?<br />
--[[User: Jurgen200|Jurgen200]]--<br />
<br />
Check out this list...<br />
No.<br />
152 Chikorita Chicolita Click Here Gold Silver <br />
153 Bayleef Beifiru Gold Silver <br />
154 Meganium Meganiumi Gold Silver <br />
155 Cyndaquil Hinoarashi Click Here Gold Silver <br />
156 Quilava Magumarashi Gold Silver <br />
157 Typhlosion Bakufun Gold Silver <br />
158 Totodile Waninoko Click Here Gold Silver <br />
159 Croconaw Arigeitsu Gold Silver <br />
160 Feraligatr Odairu Gold Silver <br />
161 Sentret Otachi Gold Silver <br />
162 Furret Ootachi Gold Silver <br />
163 Hoothoot Hoho Click Here Gold Silver <br />
164 Noctowl Yorunozuku Gold Silver <br />
165 Ledyba Rediba Click Here Not in Gold Silver <br />
166 Ledian Redeian Not in Gold Silver <br />
167 Spinarak Itomaru Click Here Gold Not in Silver <br />
168 Araidos Araidosu Gold Not in Silver <br />
169 Kurobat Kuroba Gold Silver <br />
170 Chinchou Chonchi Gold Silver <br />
171 Lanturn Rantan Gold Silver <br />
172 Pichu Pichu Click Here Gold Silver <br />
173 Cleffa Pi Click Here Gold Silver <br />
174 Igglybuff Pupurin Click Here Gold Silver <br />
175 Togepi Togepi Click Here Gold Silver <br />
176 Togetic Togechikku Gold Silver <br />
177 Natee Neitei Gold Silver <br />
178 Natotem Neiteio Gold Silver <br />
179 Mareep Meripu Gold Silver <br />
180 Skiploom Mokoko Gold Silver <br />
181 Centerity Denryu Click Here Gold Silver <br />
182 Bellossom Kireihana Click Here Gold Silver <br />
183 Marill Mariru Click Here Gold Silver <br />
184 Azumarill Mariruri Gold Silver <br />
185 Sudowoodo Usokki Click Here Gold Silver <br />
186 Politoed Myorotono Gold Silver <br />
187 Hoppip Hane Gold Silver <br />
188 Flaffy Popo Gold Silver <br />
189 Jumpluff Watakko Gold Silver <br />
190 Aipom Eipamu Click Here Gold Silver <br />
191 Sunkern Himanattsu Gold Silver <br />
192 Sunflora Kimawari Gold Silver <br />
193 Dunsparce Yanyanma Gold Silver <br />
194 Ampharos Upa Click Here Gold Silver <br />
195 Quagsire Nuoh Click Here Gold Silver <br />
196 Espeon Efui Gold Silver <br />
197 Umbreon Burakki Gold Silver <br />
198 Murkrow Yamikarasu Click Here Gold Silver <br />
199 Slowking Yadoking Click Here Gold Silver <br />
200 Trillix Muuma Gold Silver <br />
201 ????? Annon Gold Silver <br />
202 Crashin Sonansu Gold Silver <br />
203 Girafarig Kirinriki Gold Silver <br />
204 Skarmory Kunugidama Click Here Gold Silver <br />
205 Forretress Fuoretosu Gold Silver <br />
206 Duglari Nokocchi Gold Silver <br />
207 Gligar Guraiga Click Here Gold Not in Silver <br />
208 Steelix Haganeru Click Here Gold Silver <br />
209 Snubbull Buru Gold Silver <br />
210 Granbull Guranburu Gold Silver <br />
211 Wobbuffet Harisen Gold Silver <br />
212 Scizor Hassamu Click Here Gold Silver <br />
213 Octorock Tsubotsubo Gold Silver <br />
214 Heracross Herakuroso Gold Silver <br />
215 Misdreavus Nyuura Click Here Gold Silver <br />
216 Moonlite Himeguma Not in Gold Silver <br />
217 Soloar Ringuma Not in Gold Silver <br />
218 Slugma Magumaggu Gold Silver <br />
219 Magcargo Magukarugo Gold Silver <br />
220 Swinub Urimu Gold Silver <br />
221 Sirnub Inomu Gold Silver <br />
222 Corsola Sanigo Gold Silver <br />
223 Remoraid Teppouo Gold Silver <br />
224 Octillery Okutan Gold Silver <br />
225 Delibird Deribado Not in Gold Silver <br />
226 Mantine Maintain Gold Not in Silver <br />
227 Wooper Eamudo Not in Gold Silver <br />
228 Houndour Derubiru Gold Silver <br />
229 Houndoom Heruga Gold Silver <br />
230 Kingdra Kingudora Gold Silver <br />
231 Phanpy Gomazou Gold Not in Silver <br />
232 Donphan Donfuyan Click Here Gold Not in Silver <br />
233 Porygon 2 Porygon 2 Gold Silver <br />
234 Stantler Odoshishi Click Here Gold Silver <br />
235 Artibull Doburu Click Here Gold Silver <br />
236 Hitmontot Baruki Gold Silver <br />
237 Hitmontop Kapoera Click Here Gold Silver <br />
238 Smoochum Muchura Gold Silver <br />
239 Elekid Erekid Click Here Gold Silver <br />
240 Magby Bubii Gold Silver <br />
241 Miltank Mirutanku Click Here Gold Silver <br />
242 Blissey Hapinasu Click Here Gold Silver <br />
243 Raikou Raikou Gold Silver <br />
244 Entei Entei Gold Silver <br />
245 Suicune Suikun Click Here Gold Silver <br />
246 Larvitar Yogirasu Gold Silver <br />
247 Pupitar Sanagirasu Gold Silver <br />
248 Tyranitar Bangirasu Gold Silver <br />
249 Lugia Lugia Click Here Gold Silver <br />
250 Ho-Oh Houou Click Here Gold Silver <br />
251 Selebi Serebeii Not in Gold Not in Silver</div>Ambipomhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_unused_Pok%C3%A9mon_and_character_designs/Archive_1&diff=137557Talk:List of unused Pokémon and character designs/Archive 12007-05-30T19:32:25Z<p>Ambipom: Pictures</p>
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<div>This page needs to be renamed, to something like "Unused Artwork" or "Unused Concept Art", due to the fact that somethings are not Pokémon. Also, am I the only one who sees a massive relation between {{p|Raichu}} and Honouguma, {{p|Cyndaquil}}? Nah it looks to me to be more of a possible Raichu evolution. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 19:32, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)<br />
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> Why would Raichu evolve into a Pokemon without "chu" in it's name, who according to it's own name is a Fire-type?<br />
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They were trying something different maybe? It just seems to bear an amazing resemblance. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]]<br />
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So, Bublapedia has an article about Unreleased Pokémon, huh? Now all we need is an article on ''Fake'' Pokémon. - [[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]]<br />
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= Validity issues =<br />
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I've always found those sketches rather dubious now that I think about it. Where did they originally come from? Is there any proof at all that they are original concept art? - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 22:40, 29 June 2006 (UTC)<br />
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: Excellent question. However, I do know I remember seeing them way back then on PokéFor (note the fine print on the images) around the release of G/S. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 02:19, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:The ones that were obviously scanned look like Sugimori's style, especially the trainers. So, at the very least, "Unnamed Mammal" and "Unnamed Turtle" are real. One can even see the turtle with Tyranitar in the Male Trainer art. I don't know what those other rough sketches are, though. They aren't Sugimori. --[[User:Argy|Argy]] 05:04, 30 June 2006 (UTC)<br />
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= Commentary issues =<br />
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'''Unnamed mammal'''<br />
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''The Unnamed mammal has been said to resemble Hitmontop or Meowth''<br />
:Really? I definately see some {{p|Wigglytuff}} in there! [[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] 17:20, 26 November 2005 (CST)<br />
::This is gonna sound weird, but something about the design reminds me of {{p|Snubbull}}. It's the blue collar on a pink creature thing, I think. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] <sup>~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]</sup> 14:58, 6 March 2007 (UTC)<br />
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'''Kurusu'''<br />
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''This creature resembles a seal, but doesn't seem to have much relation to any Pokémon as of yet''<br />
: [[Image:Alpha kurusu.png]][[Image:086Seel.png]]<br />
: --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] 14:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)<br />
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'''Unnamed turtle'''<br />
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''A turtle Pokémon that was never released. It's possible it was later heavily reworked into Torkoal.'' <br />
:Am I the only one who sees Swampert's head in there? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] 14:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Pictures ==<br />
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What website are those pictures from?--[[User:Ambipom|Ambipom]]--</div>Ambipomhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Ambipom&diff=136866User:Ambipom2007-05-28T13:23:54Z<p>Ambipom: New page: I'm awesome.</p>
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