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2020-06-14T20:10:43Z

African Vulture: /* officer Jenny is not voiced by Lipica Shaw pre bw112 */

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== Sun2020 ==

Hey! I have a strong reason to believe {{user|Sun2020}} is yet ''another'' sockpuppet of {{user|Kittystyler}}. Sun2020's writing style for [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ash_Ketchum&type=revision&diff=3088750&oldid=3088687 this edit] to [[Ash Ketchum]] is extremely reminiscent of Kittystyler's old writing style for [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ash_Ketchum&type=revision&diff=2955518&oldid=2955392 this edit] to the same article. Do you think you can look into it? Thank you! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:20, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
:Why does Kittystyler refuse to give up? I find these repeated comebacks very tiresome. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 21:25, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
::Because they're a troll, especially considering they refused to even acknowledge the existence of their original talk page when they were still active here. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:28, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
:::They were indeed Kittystyler and have been dealt with.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:46, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
::::Okay, thanks! :D [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:09, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

== Archive 10 ==

I removed the link to an image that doesn't exist on the Archives in the topic I wrote. [[Special:Diff/3090821]] --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''キー''']][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|'''Ａ''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''コン''']] 10:08, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

== Template approval ==

If you have the time, please let me know if {{red link|User:Daniel Carrero/Puzzle}} needs anything to be approved (any change in contents, layout, etc.). If/when possible, I'd like it to be moved back to the template namespace. I also asked about aproving it on Discord, though I'm still waiting to see if anyone will reply there.

I created that template and used it in these pages:

* [[List of puzzles (PPL)]]
* [[List of puzzles (PPC)]]

--[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 16:30, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
:I think asking staff who has more knowledge on the side games would give a better opinion.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:57, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

== Pseudo-legendary ==

Hi Force Fire, thanks for adding Dragapult to the [[Pseudo-legendary Pokémon]] article (which I requested on Discord since I don't have edit access). The box for Dragapult is bigger than the other boxes in the first section, though. [[User:Qzekrom|Qzekrom]] ([[User talk:Qzekrom|talk]]) 18:55, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
:You're welcome. I'm aware that the Dragapult image is large, I did try to resize it to make it smaller (as to make the template even with the others) but felt that it made the image look too small and unidentifiable, so I just left it as is.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:57, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
:: Is there a way make it smaller for the section that shows all [[Pseudo-legendary Pokémon]] together? It jsut getting clutter up and hard to see them all.--[[User:Jacob9594|Jacob Kogan]] ([[User talk:Jacob9594|talk]]) 05:59, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
:::That's the section I was talking about. Felt that making the Dragapult image smaller made the image unidentifiable.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:05, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

== Two things ==

# Why did you revert me at those pages about types?
# I'm still waiting for approval of these pages:
#* [[User:TheICTLiker4/E O]]
#* [[User:TheICTLiker4/Template:NewMove]]
Please respond quickly. --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''TheI''']][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|'''CTLi''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''ker4''']] 08:30, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
:#Mass updates involving multiple article must be approved by a staff member. You can't just do as you please.
:#None of those are up to standards, especially the latter.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:09, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
::#Okay. I will follow this rule, even while moving pages.
::#Both pages are marked for mainspacing, and they're awaiting approval. “[...] especially the latter” — you are wrong, as some content is hidden by <includeonly> because if not, the page would be in categories reserved for move pages, and [[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] has fixed that. --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''TheI''']][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|'''CTLi''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''ker4''']] 18:58, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
:::Granted I didn't really look at the coding and just saw the template as is and thought that it looked incomplete and far too different to that actual "NewX" templates that we have.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 01:48, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
::::But what about the first page I listed in this subject ([[User:TheICTLiker4/E O]])? --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''TheI''']][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|'''CTLi''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''ker4''']] 20:00, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

== What's the point? ==

Why did you revert my episode title changes? SM003 is CLEARLY a pun, that's not difficult to see at all. We've added pun titles before. So why not now? And the others were put in the correct order of the Japanese title (not the translations of them) and added with words that needed to be added, like "region", when region is clearly in the title and has been included in other episode titles that had the Japanese characters for the word "region" in them before? Why stop now? We don't NEED to rely off translations from people over at Serebii. Other people CAN add titles as well. If there's a problem with them, at the very least explain why, I'm so annoyed with you being angry at me. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 09:43, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
:And I've done nothing wrong to deserve this from just a single admin. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 09:45, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
::I rolled back your edit on the episode list article based off your SM003 edit. The other changes, while questionable, were fine. As for SM003, as we discussed before, not everything is a pun. "Fushigi da ne" can be an actual phrase. Just because "fushigi" is in the title, doesn't automatically make it a pun.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:01, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

== Template edit request ==

Given the fact that Go is on a pretty constant catching spree, should the category for episodes in which a main character obtains a new Pokémon be included in the new episode template? Kinda like how the category for Mythical Pokémon appearances was included in it while Ash had Meltan/Melmetal in his active team? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:24, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
:I've brought up the suggestion with the other staff members.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:43, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
::Having the category there before the episode airs is a bit assumptious, especially if said episode isn't an episode where Go catches anything. So the category is not going in the template.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:23, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

== Noise Reduction on Gen 8 Pokemon images ==

I've done some easy experimenting with noise reduction on the grainy Pokemon images in photoshop, with much improved quality. Was wondering if there was any reason this hasn't been done already. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 05:42, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

== Pichu Posse members ==

Dear ForceFire,

I've been in the process of reviewing the appearances of the Pichu Brothers and their associates in the anime. However I noticed there were some Pokémon listed on the Pichu Brothers page as members of the Posse who wouldn't fit the description of being a "friend" and are simply recurring wild Pokémon such as Snorlax, Houndour and the Squirtle Squad. Feraligatr and Murkrow other recurring wild Pokémon, that are yet to have a mention anywhere, however their appearances are brief like the others. Should they have separate sections on the [[Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime]] page or should all the recurring Big Town Pokémon be listed on one page with the subsections "Pichu Brothers", "Pichu Posse" and "Other Big Town Pokémon"? Regards, [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 13:41, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

== Why did you undo my Wedgehurst edit? ==

[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Wedgehurst&diff=3097122&oldid=3097003 You didn't even leave a reason why.]] [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:05, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
:It's not notable. The other trainers "not noticing the Slowpoke" isn't notable either. The nurse knowing it isn't suppose to be some in-universe thing. Just like the bulletin boards in Black and White announcing the Pokemon outbreaks, it's not meant to be an in-universe thing where everyone in that universe knows about the outbreak (I don't recall other NPC characters commenting on the B/W outbreaks).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:25, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

== Origins Corrections ==

Hello! I am new to bulbapedia and I saw you reverted some of my changes to the verb conjugation implying uncertainty in two different articles. You mentioned that I would be allowed to do this in the future in the case that I have an official source. What constitutes an official source in this case? I ask because I would be willing to write to someone (maybe a developer?) in order to get confirmation but I do not wish to do this if it is unlikely written confirmation would not count as an official source. Are interviews with developers acceptable? Ideally, if you could link me to some sort of list that includes examples of acceptable sources that would be very helpful for me. Thank you for your time. [[User:DeterministicSpaceRichard|DeterministicSpaceRichard]] ([[User talk:DeterministicSpaceRichard|talk]])
:An interview with the original Japanese (or Western, in James Turner's case) designer is the absolute source. An example would be the interview with Pikachu's designer where she revealed its origin. We don't have a list because interviews with the designers regarding Pokemon origins are scarce.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:54, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

== why did you revert my edit? ==

I'm completely new to editing this wiki and was wondering why you [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ponyta_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=3097546&oldid=3097545 undid my first edit]? You didn't leave a reason in the reversion's edit summary and I didn't think my edit was "bad". Is there some policy about the trivia/name origin section I don't know about? {{unsigned|Twisted Code}}
:I had already removed that previously, as I felt that it was not really necessary to point out.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:28, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
::By that standard, what makes anything else on this wiki "necessary", especially stuff in the trivia section? I don't really understand the line you're drawing, as it seems like it could go either way. Then again, I'm new here so what do I know?¯\_(ツ)_/¯--[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 18:33, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
:::If you don't mind me inserting myself, I think that that's a worthy trivia point. I didn't realize it until reading it here. It's the exact kind of thing I'd expect to see in a trivia section. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 19:31, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
::::Trivia point, sure. Just don't think it's worth pointing out in the name origin section as the line before already conveys what is being said well enough without trying to be witty.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:32, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::maybe we could move the "based on a unicorn" trivia point altogether then? Seems that point being in *specifically* the name origin subsection is the issue. I'd like to point out the pun one way or another, as I thought it was a clever quip from the developers.--[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 13:46, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
::::::Uh... no. That line is meant to be in the origins sections as it's detailing what Galarian Ponyta might be based off. The extra bit about "unique horn" isn't necessary.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:38, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::::... And "unique horn" supports that point that it "might be" based on a unicorn. I don't see what the big deal is here, or why one piece of trivia is more "necessary" than any other piece? Is there some sort of rule against acknowledging puns (even to support another point) or something? --[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 13:21, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::::After a bit of thought and reading [[WP:WP:WIN|one of Wikipedia's (a.k.a. the mother of all wikis or "MOAW") policies concerning impasses like this]], I've decided I'm willing to just leave it go. Mostly because I know you're an admin and I don't feel like challenging the "staff won't bite" claim in the [[template:welcome]] message, but also because this impasse is such an enigma to me that it doesn't feel worthwhile trying to understand it — especially in light of the policy I mentioned (which presumably also applies to any wiki created in the same spirit of collaboration). That said, please register and take into account my STRONG objection to your decision in this matter, and on that note, have a nice day :-)--[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 22:43, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::::Apologies for the late response. It saying that Galarian Ponyta might be based of a Unicorn is suffice enough, without the need to be witty or smart. Like I said, if anything, the pun goes in the main trivia section, not the name origin section. As for the Wikipedia policy, we are not Wikipedia. We do not share the same rules or guidelines (well, we might share some, but not all, and definitely not that one).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:32, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::I accept that explanation, though I'm struggling slightly to reconcile it with my original thinking (though in any case, my initial question is settled). As for the thing about Wikipedia: yes I realize this is not Wikipedia, nor is it a project belonging to Wikimedia; what I meant by what I said was that, as both wikis are, by nature, collaborative projects and that policy is conducive to cooperation, I felt it could be applicable here, not that it would actually be enforced because, as you said, this isn't Wikipedia. Sorry about that, I should've been more clear.--[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 19:10, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

== Sobble's Origin for Trivia Section ==

We know Sobble is based on a chameleon and it says that's it's Water-typing is based on the basilisk lizard, but here's another thing you could add which makes a lot of sense (like how it also connects to water). Below are the reasons/facts and links.

Because of its color scheme and type, Sobble could be based on the Veiled chameleon. Even though it's not aquatic, it has a special adaption to collect water in its habitat where there is little water. This species of chameleon has a casque (the helmet-like protrusion on top of its head) that collects water. At night, droplets of moisture roll down the casque and into the chameleon's mouth.

The way the droplets flow down the Veiled chameleon's face could give the illusion that it's crying which could explain the teardrop markings on Sobble's face. The adult males of this species have defined bands of blue and yellow. Those two colors are part of Sobble's color scheme.

Here are the links for more information: https://animals.sandiegozoo.org/animals/chameleon (As you scroll down, start reading where is says "A water-catching casque.") https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veiled_chameleon

Here is a picture of the adult male Veiled chameleon: https://flchams.com/chameleon/adult-veiled-chameleons-for-sale/ [[User:Macpika|Macpika]] ([[User talk:Macpika|talk]]) 04:02, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
:Its behavior and appearance is similar enough, you can add it if you want to, just remember to use "may be based off" or "appears to be based off" rather than "is based off", since it's still speculation.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:11, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

== Adding Tabs ==

ForceFire,
How do I add tabs to pages? I want to add a trivia tab to a move page, [[G-Max Wind Rage]]. How do I do that?
[[User:PeakA|PeakA]] ([[User talk:PeakA|talk]]) 18:33, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

== How is that correct? ==

[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Chandelure_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&curid=115955&diff=3102742&oldid=3102717] Isn't it pronounced "home-ige"? Thus it should be "a" instead of "an". [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:20, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
:You need to google how to pronounce it. It comes in two English-speaking flavors and isn't worth making a change for. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 17:02, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
::Sorry if I'm being a pest, but the first result I found is literally "hom·age". [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:09, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
:::And underneath that is how to pronounce it. "/ˈ(h)ämij/" [https://www.google.com/search?q=homage+pronunciation&oq=homage+&aqs=chrome.0.69i59l3j69i57j0j69i60l3.3435j1j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 The h is in parentheses for a reason.] If you straight up google 'herb' like you did with homage, you'll get the same thing, even tho we don't say the 'h' at all. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 17:28, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::I think you picked a poor example, because everyone I hear that says "herb" uses the "h". However, it's clear I'm not going to make any progress talking about this, so you'll probably be happy to know that I give up. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:40, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

== Question ==
Do you believe that Ōkido (オーキド) means anything in Japanese? [[User:Wc12271991|Wc12271991]] ([[User talk:Wc12271991|talk]]) 22:19, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

== Pseudo-legendary Pokémon ==
Now that Ash has captured a Dragonite, can you unlock the Pseudo-legendary Pokémon page so I can add that information to it, please? [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 17:40, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
:The pseudo legendary page is '''never''' getting unprotected. If an edit needs to be made, request it on the talk page of the article or go to an admin.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:02, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

== Vandal ==

We have a vandal on the loose. Could you or some other admin do something about them? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:46, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
:Never mind. They were just dealt with. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:46, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

== New page ==

Thank you,ForceFire for helping me out in the talk. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:25, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

== Split ==

Could the Wyndon Stadium article be split to have a subpage for the Champion tournaments the same way as "Pokémon League (Alola)" was split to have a separate subpage for Title Defense? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:41, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
:I've brought the suggestion up to the others. I personally wouldn't mind it being split, since the page is already large.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:14, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you. Please let me know when a decision is made. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:55, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

== Recurring definition? ==

I'm confused. Please explain why {{MTR}} was removed from the recurring wild Pokémon in the anime page? I agree that he is a main character, however he is also a wild Pokémon that has been featured in than one episode, meeting the recurring wild Pokémon criteria. Recurring means just that occurring again. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 13:52, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
:Meowth doesn't appear every now and then, he appears in every episode (bar B/W, but that has already come and gone), which is the direct opposite of being recurring.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:05, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
::Speaking of other things not meeting the criteria … the list of Ash's temporary traveling companions has some questionable additions.

::Ritchie was simply encountered and is listed even though his appearances over three episodes was part of the Team Rocket-Lugia arc, plus Oliver and Luka who appeared during the same period are not.
::Zoey, while she appeared across multiple episodes in Snowpoint City, she simply met up with the group rather than traveled with them.
::Dia is another questionable addition, and while he appeared in two episodes, it was only while Ash was in the alternate dimension. Your thoughts? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 23:21, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Can Mewtwo of the original series be added? It appeared in two main episodes and multiple specials. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 08:36, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Zeraora matches the definition of a recurring wild Pokémon: a wild Pokémon that appears in more than one episode and has some enough notable sort of involvement in the plot. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:46, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
::::I'm not sure if there is a criteria for Ash's temporary travelling companions, but I think the idea should be if they're with Ash for more than three episodes and travel from place to place, they should be added. Which I guess would discount Dia. Get second opinions.
::::I'm not sure if major movie characters count? I know there's Slowking there, but it doesn't play a major role in its movie. As for Zeraora, I think it comes down to how many episode appearances counts as "recurring". I don't think Zeroara as much as most of the Pokemon on the recurring article.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:05, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::I've sought a second opinion. Thanks for the replies on today's queries. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 10:55, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

== BW058? ==

I saw the change made to BW058. However I based those additions on the fact that Gym Leader's Pokémon evolving like [[Roark's Cranidos]] has been listed in the past, plus Chili is a recurring character and also the brother of Cilan. {{unsigned|PardescanSlowbro}}
:Roark's Cranidos evolving is notable as it effects Ash's battle with him. The additions you made to BW058 weren't that major and didn't need to be elaborated on.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:54, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

== Upload problem ==

I belong to the autoconfirmed members group and recently created my userpage. I can't upload any images and it denied permission saying I must be autoconfirmed. Please look into this issue and I also have have a lot of images from the new series, that I want to upload!! [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 11:27, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
:Image uploading is done over at the [https://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page Archives], and you have to be autconfirmed over there. Autoconfirmation on the archives is separate than on Bulbapedia. So you have to make some edits on the Archives to become autoconfirmed.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:40, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you ForceFire for your advice --[[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:37, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

I have a doubt,is there any colour difference between Ash's Pikachu in the Japanese and English dub of the pokémon anime? Can you please say something about it! --[[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:39, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

== About Dinamax/Gigantamax in the anime ==

When a Poké evolves, here it usually says "x took y episodes to evolve" or something. How will you do with Pokémon that reach that level?For example, I'm doing a Gyarados'page for Lance. I put something like Lance's Gyarados took xxx episodes to dinamax (is that the name we should put?)? Where is this kind of information going to be? In the box with the animal's information?Are there any rules or tutorials already done explaining this? I really appreciate it if you can help me.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hilaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 13:54, 02 February 2020 (UTC)
:That's probably not going to be noted in the infobox, we don't note "how long" it took for a Pokemon to Mega Evolve. If anything, that goes into the main history section of the article.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:24, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hilaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 16:08, 02 February 2020 (UTC)

== Champion ==

Lance was mentioned as the Indigo league champion in the preview of SS012. But, the trivia of SS012 has a edit that says he lost his championship somewhere in the middle of the anime. Is it right? --[[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 16:30, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
:Please answer my question quickly [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:10, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
::Trivia has since been removed as it needs to be verified if he states that he's an Elite Four member in the original Japanese version.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:15, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
I'm sorry about that, actually Lance is mentioned as the member of Kanto Elite four by Go in the preview. I checked it and undid the edit in SS012. Hope you wouldn't mind about the undo and thank you, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:20, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
:I've found Japanese sources describing [[AG097]] that describe Lance as an Elite Four member in his Hoenn appearance as well. He indeed hasn't been referred to as a Champion since the Johto era of the anime. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:50, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
::Dhiwakar, please don't add back the trivia until the problem has been resolved. Finnish, if someone can find the Japanese episode and confirm it, I think that would be solid evidence.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 17:02, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
: Okay ForceFire, I assure you I would not add it in the trivia until it is solved. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 17:09, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
: If you don't mind, I shall ask something. Lance was mentioned as the member of Kanto Elite four in the preview of SS012. Isn't it enough to solve the problem? [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 16:54, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
::I'm afraid you're missing the point here. We're trying to solve if he was referred to as an Elite Four members Pokémon in [[AG097]], because that affects the piece of trivia you're wanting to add to SM012. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:02, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
: I get it now,thank you FinnishPokéFan92. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 05:45, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

== Question, out of curiosity ==

When you customize a signature, does that affect signatures that have been already submitted ''before'' said customization? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:08, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
:No. The new signatures comes into affect after you've changed it.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:29, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
::Okay, thanks. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:38, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

== Delete, please ==

I recently moved Porygon's evolution category, following its Evolution item's new formatting. Could you delete the unnecessary redirect that was formed in the process? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:48, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:02, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
::Now I've moved the category for Elite Four members' Pokémon to remove an unnecessary uppercase "M". Could you remove the redirect? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:23, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:01, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

== Colour difference ==

Is thre any difference between Ash's Pikachu in the Japanese and English dub of the anime. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:40, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
:Please answer this question, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:53, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
::Not too sure what you mean here. Could be a number of factors.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:45, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Sorry about that, i forgot to mention the word colour inthe above question. It was actually, " Is there any colour difference between Ash's Pikachu in the Japanese and English dub of the anime?". [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 08:37, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
:Not that I'm aware of.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:31, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:20, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

== Debut uncertainty ==

For movie 22, should cases like Gary's Pokémon on his page or Mewtwo on Viridian Gym's page have their debut appearances listed to be their main series debuts or M22? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:44, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
:Whichever one aired first in Japan. M01 (I believe aired first before EP063). Not M22.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:45, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

== User page ==

I want to move the usertag box to the right corner of my page. But I don't know how to do it. Can you please help with this!I won't edit it if you say it today itself,because I have already done three edits in my userpage!! [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 09:53, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
:The code containing the tags should go above everything.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:31, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
I can't understand completely, can you show me a pic of it, please. Thank you ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:20, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
:The table containing all your usertags should be placed '''above''' the first section. I.e. just swap the placement of your sections around.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:58, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Can you see if have done it correctly, unfortunately I have wasted my edits and unable to delete the excess points and thank you, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 05:30, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
:It's fine.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:03, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
: Thanks a lot, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 09:42, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

== Dynamax ==

Isn't Pikachu Dynamaxing without going into it's pokéball, important? If it is too specific,it is notable right? I also have an intuition, that it has something to do with Eternatus. Moreover, it is supposed to go into the trivia. Thank you, ForceFire [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:12, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
:No, it isn't notable. It doesn't matter whether Pikachu returned to his Poke Ball or not.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:31, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks again, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:54, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

== Magearna ==

Pokémon HOME reveals that Shiny Magearna doesn't have any paint on it, like the Magearna from the Sun & Moon series. Should it be considered a Shiny Magearna in the light of this new information? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:44, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
:I would think so, if it's the most recent design of the Shiny form.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:40, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
::It is. [https://66.media.tumblr.com/4870664d714ac276fbb98e9a9d72afb8/eec1975ebfa88305-2d/s540x810/0258c33075f759d2fd334cceb64a1dd429db6f86.png Here] is an image I found of the Shiny Magearna Sprite from HOME, while [[:File:Mohn Magearna.png|here]] in an image of the S&M series Magearna. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:25, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Based on those images, do I have your permission to classify Magearna as a Shiny in the anime? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:37, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
::::I'd say it's fine to classify it as a Shiny form of Magearna.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:21, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:58, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

== Ash's Dynamax Band ==

Ash doesn't seem to wear the Dynamax band, continuously like the Z-Ring in the new series. Is it to be noted in the major events of SS014. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:00, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
:No. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:19, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
:Ash not wearing his Z-Ring anymore wasn't a major event. And it's likely he'll just wear it when he's in Galar and can actually use it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:20, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
I wasn't asking about the Z-Ring. I just wanted to ask about the Dynamax Band, whether not wearing it continuously must be noted, if not in major events atleast in trivia! Hope you understand. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 16:13, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
:I used Z-Ring as a comparison. And him not continuously wearing it is definitely not major event worthy. Not sure about trivia worthiness either, but we'll see. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:16, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, FinnishPokéFan [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:46, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
:Sorry about that edit, ForceFire. I added it because FinnishPokéFan92 was not sure about trivia worthiness,also I didn't do it on purpose. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:02, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

== Help me ==

I am getting a blank of space in my userpage. How can remove it? If you want a clear picture of my query,see my userpage. Thank you, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 17:28, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
:It's because the Ash's Pokemon template is stretching the page due to it's size.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 01:35, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
:: It was there before adding the template. How to clear it? I see there is no space in your page,eve though you usertags. Thank you,ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:42, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
:::There's always going to be whitespace on your userpage because their are things stretching the page, the template or the usertags prior to you adding the template. If you want to get rid of the whitespace, you can use the "expandable" tags to hide the templates or usertages so there's less whitespace.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:15, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you so much, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:45, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

== Deleting sandbox article ==

Hey! It's been a while. I created [[User:GrammarFreak01/Pikachu in a cap|a sandbox article]] for the [[Pikachu in a cap]] article, but it seems someone's already beat me to the punch. Mind deleting it for me, please? Thanks! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:12, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:57, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you. :) [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 11:24, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

== Minor disagreement ==

In SS013, Ash loses a battle for the first time in 54 episodes, a rarely and possibly even never before seen long streak for him. I think this should be noted in the episode's trivia section, but GrammarFreak01 disagrees, saying it's not notable. What's your opinion? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:27, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
:You should've made it clear that 54 episodes was the longest period of time Ash has gone without a loss in the anime, because I did not know this. I'll restore the edit with the necessary addendum. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:37, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
::I did not say that because I wasn't sure. I only figured it was notably long. And I may have just discovered an even longer lossless period for him from the XY series (from XY036 to XY106). --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:47, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

== RedneckAnimeGeek ==

{{user|RedneckAnimeGeek}} has made excessively many edits on Hop and Leon's pages. I tried to notify them on their talk page to use the preview button and lessen the amount of their edits, but their actions did not change. Could you help? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:46, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

== GaOlé ==

https://postimg.cc/gallery/ikii6jsa/
Hello, can these images be placed on Archives and consequently placed on the pages of the respective characters?They are from the Ga Olé game with the theme of the new anime series.[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 12:15, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

== Reinhartmax's categories ==

{{user|Reinhartmax}} has just created categories for Trainers with giant, Fossil, and baby Pokémon. I personally can see the notability in the first one and maybe in the second one, but not really in the last one. What's your opinion? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 22:11, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
:I don't think all three are notable. I've brought it up to the staff, and gave Reinhartmax a message to cease making more categories.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:32, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you. I won't mind if all three of them were removed, so no objections there. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:38, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Has the staff made a decision yet? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:51, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::::Not yet. It got put off to the side for other things.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::Is this subject still waiting to be solved? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:27, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
::::::Can those categories be removed? Has a decision been reached yet? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:08, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Hello? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:05, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
::::::::Discussions regarding this has kinda stalled. Though I think it's rather clear that they aren't needed. I'll be deleting them in a bit.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:37, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:25, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

== Process for reporting an admin ==

Hey! Is there a formal process to report an admin for shirking their duties? [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Ataro#Iris_edit I've been trying] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Ataro#Iris_edit.2C_continued for months] to talk with {{U|Ataro}} about an editing style that I strongly disagree with, which led to what I believe to be an unnecessary three-day block on my end. Ataro [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3032795&oldid=3031944 responded], and this was [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3032886&oldid=3032814 my response]. For months, I haven't received another response from them. I am led to believe Ataro is ignoring me on purpose because [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3068489&oldid=3068474 they] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3068499&oldid=3068496 have] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3107287&oldid=3107274 responded] to other talk page messages, but not mine. They have also been active many times since that initial response, so it would've been absolutely difficult for them not to see all the talk page notifications that were sent by my many attempts to contact them.

I find it hard to believe they were unaware of all of that. If there was supposed to be another, more appropriate way to reach them, then my apologies; I didn't know. But nevertheless, I find it absolutely disgusting that this admin would engage in such selective behavior. Trying to contact them even before they initially responded was an extremely tedious debacle, and by this point, I am absolutely done with their conduct. I'd like to see if there's a formal procedure to address this. Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 11:05, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
:If you have a concern about a staff member ignoring you, you can bring it up to either the Editor in Chief (Kogoro) or the Deputy Editor in Chief (Pokemaster97).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:17, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you. :) [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:48, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

== Explain. ==

Hello, why is it that you removed my Shadow Lugia base stats from the Shadow Lugia page? Those were the real base stats so they had no reason to be changed. Email me at JonahLeeWalker.123@gmail.com with your reply. {{unsigned|Gamer PROJonah}}
:It was improperly formatted. See how the base stats on other articles are done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:22, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

== Vandal alert ==

It looks like {{user|Justin Bibarel}} is going to be nothing but a vandal. Take care of it? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:34, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

:Never mind, {{U|SnorlaxMonster}} took care of it. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:41, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

== SS017 ==

Is the title of SS017 is "Something happens to Hibanny". I saw the news about this in Twitter. So, I want you confirm the truthness of this fact. Because I can't edit unless I have proof about it,right! [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 09:04, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
:Hi,ForceFire please answer my question! Thank you. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 04:17, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::Where did you get the title from?--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:03, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::: I'm not completely sure about the title. I saw it in #anipoke in twitter. Hence, I asked you if you're aware of it. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 08:24, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::::A simple Twitter hashtag is not a reliable source. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:30, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::::: I'm not trying to prove my fact,I was just confirming it here. Also,it is the official hashtag of the Pokémon anime. The tweets may not be reliable, I accept. Hope you understand my point of view GrammarFreak01. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:24, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::: Don't worry about it,since we got the title. Thank you ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 03:50, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

== Gary's Journey ==

Hi, please, I wanted to understand why the change was reversed with Gary's page. Why no other human character has the separation between Kanto / Johto / Hoenn or anything like that anymore. The marking says "Orange Islands", but Gary was never said to have been on the islands. And the page is about Gary's point of view, isn't it? What's the point of keeping that with Gary only?Shouldn't that be standard for everyone?[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 15:17, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
:Could've sworn we also split the history sections of human characters too, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I've reverted myself.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:34, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

== List of references to Pokémon in popular culture edit ==
Hello there. May I ask as to why you have deleted my writing on [[Difference between revisions of "List of references to Pokémon in popular culture"|this page]]? If you would have given me some more time, I would have fixed up my own work, rather than someone else deleting it. Could you please explain as to why you have deleted this specific section? I recognise that some of my information is incorrect, and I would have fixed it up myself. If there is an alternate section where you want me to put it under, I will be more than happy to do this change. Thank you for taking the time to read this, and I hope you recosider your reversion. [[User:BlueDecoRoller|BlueDecoRoller]] ([[User talk:BlueDecoRoller|talk]]) 01:31, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
:As I said in my edit summary, passing mentions are not notable. It has to be more than just a namedrop.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:03, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::As an alternative, could I add my information [[List of background references to Pokémon|here instead]]? I could create a new section for Books, comics and Manga, and put it in there, along with a stub. What do you think? If you approve, I should have it done by 06:00 03/05/20 (UTC). Hopefully. [[User:BlueDecoRoller|BlueDecoRoller]] ([[User talk:BlueDecoRoller|talk]]) 21:51, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
:::It's fine there.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
::::All fixed. Thank you for clarifying as to where I should put it.[[User:BlueDecoRoller|BlueDecoRoller]] ([[User talk:BlueDecoRoller|talk]]) 06:34, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

== Focus on Ash ==

Isn't [[JN013|SS013]] an episode focusing on Ash. I don't know how to add it in the Category: Episodes focusing on Ash. If it is an episode focusing on Ash,could you add it in the category for me, ForceFire! [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 08:26, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
:Not really.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
:: Thank you, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:00, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

== Appearance info for Series-exclusive Recurring Characters: ==

Hello,

I wish to clarify whether all appearances for recurring characters in a particular series should be documented. This comes in the wake of GrammarFreak01 restoring deletions made to [[Abe]], [[Sarah and Harper]] and [[Anela]]'s pages of otherwise unimportant or minor appearances, plus Poké Problem scenes which have little to do with the respective episode plots. As such I'd prefer for these changes to be reverted to make for a succinct article. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:15, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

:I disagree with making articles such as those succinct. It needs material to fill it up, otherwise it'll be painfully short. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:16, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
::Only major appearances should be noted, if they didn't do much and was simply a background character, then it's not notable. And the Poke Problem segments are clearly not notable at all. It doesn't matter if it's too short, Reggie has appeared quite a few times and his article isn't that long. Quality over quantity.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:22, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
:::Thank you for the clarification. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 12:48, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
::::So would this have to apply to ''every'' recurring character article, including those who only had major roles in just two episodes like [[Savannah]] and [[Sandra]]? If not, what's exactly the limit? Which recurring character articles have to be succinct and which ones don't have to be? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:13, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::If they contributed to the plot of the episode, then it's notable. And it counts for every recurring character, it doesn't matter of one page is longer than the other. That's simply not a problem.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:38, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
::::::GrammarFreak01, the examples you gave were deliberate cameos, which are different from background appearances of the examples I explained. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:42, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Allow me to rephrase, then: is the mention of cameos and flashbacks notable for all recurring characters' histories, or not? That's among the material that's being contested in [[Abe]] and [[Sarah and Harper]]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:46, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
::::::::If they are important cameos or flashbacks.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:50, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::How so? Examples? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:52, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::If they are important to the plot of the episode, then it's notable. If they didn't do anything at all, then it's not notable..--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:57, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::::Okay, gotcha. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:00, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

== The trivia ==

The music from the trailer of the new series was used in [[JN014|SS014]],when the egg containing the Golurk emerged from the underground of the ruins. Could it be treated as part of trivia of SS014, as we treated the use of Gym battle theme from SwSh. If it is a part of trivia, can you add it in the trivia of SS014 for me,as I don't really know how to frame it properly for the trivia. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:09, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
:It's not a notable piece of music, so it's not notable.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:40, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

== User YayBoy7 vandalizing the site. ==

I think you should have access to the last changes, the user in question started to vandalize the pages of some users and places and characters with bad words. I tried to modify what I could, but I couldn't prevent other changes and as I don't know if it is possible to report here, it probably must have happened without me seeing it. 01:43 [[Hikaru Wazana]] 05 March 2020

== Request ==

I appreciate you protecting SS017's page for the time being. But could I request you'll remove the last edit that was there before the protection took place? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:58, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
:Eh, if it wasn't hidden, then I'd remove it. But since it's hidden, so it's doing no harm. It can be removed/corrected once the protection expires.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:55, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

== Lugia (Pocket monsters) ==

In [[JN020|SS020]],the Lugia from the second episode of the series is going to appear. Can we categorize this Lugia as a recurring character in the anime? [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:32, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
:I also wanted to ask you one more question,i.e How do I join in Project anime? [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:44, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
::Once the episode airs. "Joining" projects is an out of use thing, everyone is editing under a certain project, regardless of them "joining" it. Though you can still add the "User is a part of Project..." usertags to your userpage if you like.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:07, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
::: I get the idea about it now. You mean that the edits under the anime pages are part of Project anime. Thanks a lot, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 17:25, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

== Item Sprites ==

Hey, I've made a suggestion here [[Template talk:Bag2]]. What do you think about it?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 22:25, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

==User edit-warring on an article==
I've got {{user|Kirigayaray}} [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world&type=revision&diff=3129878&oldid=3129829 continuously reverting my own reversions] of the [[Pokémon world in relation to the real world]] article. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world&type=revision&diff=3129839&oldid=3129835 I've talked with them] about going to the talk page to discuss the contested edits, but [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world&type=revision&diff=3129878&oldid=3129839 they still made a reversion]. Would you mind intervening, please? Thank you! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:13, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:The entire article is speculation, so it's fine for them to change it within reason. If you feel that their edits are wrong, then go to their talk page or the talk page of the article. Would also help if you had knowledge on what those areas the location is supposedly based on. That way, your reversion might hold water.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:48, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

== Recurring character categories ==

Hey! Since I noticed there's an entire set of categories for [[Character of the day|characters of the day]], I was wondering if we could create the same for recurring characters in the anime. I feel like they could use some further categorization and distinction. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:54, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:The main anime characters category covers those fairly well, in my opinion.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:52, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
::But it's already so hard to look for some of them, like [[Savannah]]. I think we need such categories. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:12, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

== Deleted ==

Why did you delete [[:Category:Pages with ignored display titles]], even though I think it is needed? --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''TheI''']][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|'''CTLi''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''ker4''']] 11:27, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:No... it's not needed.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:52, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

== Feedback ==

Hi, I'm putting together a custom template for the characters that will be in the world competition. Some details are still needed, but I would like to know the opinion of the site staff. Is there any chance of being approved? Is it worth it to keep doing this?My inspiration is something that I saw on sports websites. I thought it might be interesting given the importance of the event.
Here is an example:
---------------
This marks the position that Trainer _____ took in the world ranking:

{| class="roundy" style="margin: auto; text-align: center; background: #{{water color}}; border: 3px solid #{{water color dark}}" cellpadding=5px
|-style="background: #{{water color light}}"
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" |[[File:Pokémon World Championships logo.png|75px]] Pokémon World Championish
! [[File:Bag Poké Ball Sprite.png‎]] Normal Class
! [[File:Bag Great Ball Sprite.png]] Super Class
! [[File:Bag Ultra Ball Sprite.png]] Hyper Class
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | [[File:Bag Master Ball Sprite.png]] Master Class
|- style="background: #FFF"
| Ranking position
| {{color2|000|JN018|Not Avaliable}}
| {{color2|000|JN018|Top 999}}
| {{color2|000|JN018|Top 99}}
| {{color2|000|JN012|Top 8}}
|- style="background: #FFF"
|-
| class="roundybottom" style="background: #{{water color light}}" colspan="5" |
|}

What do you think?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 16:17, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
:Initially thought this was for the TCG worlds tournament thing, so there was a bit of confusion on my end. I've asked and the judgement was that it's a bit too early for such a template, when we know very little of it and its competitors. Maybe once that gets revealed it could be used.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:14, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

== Let's Go plot description ==

I personally think the plot description {{user|Kahchun}} wrote for Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee today isn't up to code. Do you agree? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:21, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

== Articles for the Mainspace ==

Hello. I'd hoped for a response from Abcboy or G50, in regards to some of these pages which are ready to be mainspaced, hopefully you can help.

*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Legend Festival]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Pokéstar Studios Film Competition]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Subway Bosses's Stamp Rally]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/The Marina Group]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Pershie/The Protectors]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Bloom Canyon]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Flower Garden Troupe]] - I've structured it like other organization pages like the [[Pokémon Lover's Club]] and [[B-Button League]] as its HQ was shown in the anime
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Pokémon Training Center]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Unnamed Island (EP060)]] - We have other unnamed island pages like the ones featured during the Orange and Decolore sagas
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Big Town Pokémon]] - This one needs further discussion as these are the recurring Pokémon that aren't part of the Pichu Posse, as to whether this should be a separate page or rather the Pichu Posse page gets reconfigured to account for this.
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Pershie]]

Regards [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 08:55, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
:*Legend festival should be fine.
:*The PokeStar competition article should detail its competitors like the other competition articles.
:*Same as above.
:*Marina group should be fine.
:*(not sure why it's a subpage of Pershie) Protectors is fine, though is looking bare without a navigation template.
:*Bloom Canyon could do with a bit more, but if nothing else major happens there, then I guess it'd do.
:*Flower Garden Troupe is fine.
:*Pokemon Training Center is fine.
:*Unnamed Island is fine, again navigation template would help it look nicer.
:*Big Town Pokemon needs further discussion about splitting it off from Pichu Brothers.
:*Pershie didn't do much, and didn't really have an impact in any of the episodes it was in. Not notable.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:14, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
::Just confirming, Bloom Canyon had a brief appearance in the episode.
::Anyway, I've made those suggested changes, the pages are now ready for the mainspace. Thanks for the reply. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:45, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
:::Hi. I've noticed only two pages have been mainspaced so far. When will the other approved pages be uploaded to the mainspace? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:40, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
::::Apologies for that, all the approved articles have been moved.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:08, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::Much appreciated, thanks. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 10:25, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

== Professor Burnet ==

{| max-width="80%" style="margin:auto; background: transparent; {{roundy|10px}} border: 0px solid #C4E673; padding:2px;"
|-
| colspan="2" width="100%" style="background: #E0F2B6; {{roundy|10px 10px {{#switch:{{{2|author}}}|author=10px|0px}} 10px}} border: 2px solid #a1c747; padding-top:5px; padding-bottom:10px; padding-left:5px; padding-right:5px;" | '''“''' Her name is Burnet, which comes from the Japanese name. Profesor is her title/occupation, not part of her name, so it's not counted. '''”'''
|-
|
|}
Thank you for this explanation while you “rollbacked” these edits, this will be useful in my future contributions. --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''TheI''']][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|'''CTLi''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''ker4''']] 18:44, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

== Mythical pokémon pics ==

Hi! I'd like to know the ratio over using promotional images of past mythical pokémon in the [[Mythical Pokémon|general page]] while the latest ones have to use the Sugimori artwork. I edited it because I thought it looked better and more cohesive. Thank you! --[[User:Crikko|'''★''''''Cri''''''ққ''''''ѳ~''''''*''']] 16:58, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

== Gen 8 Sprites ==

Hi do you think we should start on the gen 8 sprites now and use the front sprites such as Grookey's front sprite

[[File:Spr 8s 810.png|300px]]

and upload the backsprites later? I apologize about my wording and English BTW ([[User:Mr.GodzillaMan|Mr.GodzillaMan]] ([[User talk:Mr.GodzillaMan|talk]]) 16:27, 17 March 2020 (UTC))

== New vandal alert ==

Hey! We've got {{user|Yeety}} being a vandal here. Take care of it, please? Thank you! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:27, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

:Now this person's directly harassing me on my talk page and spreading lies about me on other users' talk pages. I need assistance! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:47, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

::Never mind, {{U|Abcboy}} took care of it. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:52, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

== Rillaboom's Drumsticks ==

I know that Rillaboom carries its drum on its back, but where does it keep its drumsticks? The leaf-like fur near its hands (like how Delphox keeps its branch in the fur on its arm)? [[User:Macpika|Macpika]] ([[User talk:Macpika|talk]]) 17:38, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

== Totodile’s Tackle ==

Excuse me, I already know which episode Ash's Totodile used Tackle, and Duplica's Mini-Dit did the same, but why did it get reverted? Dub edits or something?--[[User:CoolPokeGuy|CoolPokéGuy]] ([[User talk:CoolPokeGuy|Talk]]) 19:03, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
:Was it stated or are you just guessing? I don't particularly remember the episode.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:08, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
:It was stated. I’ve seen that episode for a very long time.--[[User:CoolPokeGuy|CoolPokéGuy]] ([[User talk:CoolPokeGuy|Talk]]) 07:13, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

== Relicanth ==

You can't just delete a fan theory from a paragraph designated to fan speculation. And why isn't Relicanth a map?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 16:34, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
:Do not edit war. Wait for a response. No response does not mean you can just add it back. Have patience.
:I already said why on Relicanth's talk page. It's an opinion. Relicanth's body design looks nothing like the map of Hoenn. And it's a very large stretch to say that its design is why it's needed to unlock the Regis when the far simpler and probable reason is because it's a living fossil Pokemon.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 17:02, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
::I'm not saying it's a map of Hoenn, but it surely is a map. Being brown (like old maps), having unexpleined by any other mean red spot, being unchanged for centuries and always placed sideway instead of heading the player in game sprites, all these things together suggest that. And as a theory of Hoenn map, even if you can't see it, it has no reason to not be added under speculations.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 20:50, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
:::It would make more sense if it looked like the map of Hoenn, otherwise, it's just a random design. Again, all of those are a stretch when the more simpler and probable reason is because it's an ancient Pokemon. It still needs to be reasonable speculation, and the whole map thing just isn't.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 01:39, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

== Bulbapedia Rework ==

Hello, Force Fire.
My name is Xeraphyy. Last month, a tweet was made announcing that Bulbapedia was going through some site upgrades. The link to the tweet is below.

https://twitter.com/Bulbapedia/status/1228458215324545024

I was wondering if the site upgrades are still continuing. Do you know of the status of the rework? Please get back to me when you can. [[User:Xeraphyy|Xeraphyy]] ([[User talk:Xeraphyy|talk]]) 18:34, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

== Raichu's gender ==

May I ask why the gender of Visquez's Raichu can't be confirmed? It's a Raichu that was first seen after gender differences were implemented, we've seen Pikachu's gender differences before, and her Raichu's tail clearly was that of a male Raichu. I personally fail to see the reason to not consider its gender confirmed based on its tail. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 21:58, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
:That's Pikachu's gender difference. Not Raichu's gender difference. Just because one gender difference has been acknowledged, does not mean the others exist. They still need to be acknowledged by the animators. They could easily acknowledge one difference but not the other, because they can just be like that sometimes.
:A female Raichu has appeared in the anime, but it was drawn with a male tail (Tierno's). So we still can't use gender differences, until the female variant Raichu appears in the anime. Other than that, it needs to be explicitly stated or hit with attract/cute charm. But you know that already.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 01:39, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
::Oh, right. I had completely forgotten about Tierno's Raichu. Sorry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:31, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
:::How is Tierno's Raichu a cetain case? I've ask about this [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Tierno_(anime) here].--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 11:36, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

==Hikaru Wazana==
Me and FinnishPokéfan92 have been having some trouble with Hikaru Wazana, mainly on the Archive section with him uploading images that aren't the right size or quality, adding more work for us and other users. I've spoken to Chosen and Abcboy about this but haven't had any response. Was wondering if you could look into it? I'm bringing this up now as he's starting making more work on this side of Bulbapedia, notably the [[Elite Four‎‎]] and [[Casey's Meganium]] pages.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 22:38, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
::I didn’t upload anything to Casey’s Meganium page, the only thing I did was expand the page, which YEARS passed without anyone putting anything relevant about her role. The other uploads I made with images with the best quality I got, unfortunately I can't change them with the standard quality. If the images of the E4 you are talking about are those of the Pokemon Puzzle League, unfortunately I couldn't get any better, so I wondered if it was better to add content or not. I chose to add the content.

What should I do? There is a page that, as notable as it is, no one takes the trouble to update. It seems that people care more about putting Trivia than really supporting the site. The other day I sent you the screencaptures of a hosted site, but doing that for all the ones I get is an extra job. I don't want to give extra work to the people who collaborate here,[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]10:15, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
:I don't pay too much attention to the archives side of things, so any issues should be brought up with someone that spends more time over there. As for Hikaru's edits here, they're fine. If they feel like a page can be expanded, they are free to expand it to the best of their abilities.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:05, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

== Gender ==

So why exactly you reverted back the table for Pokemon that evolve depending on gender? It wasn't big edit, not even mine.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 17:02, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
:Because it wasn't necessary. Not every page have to have the same template design. You also made a large scale edit without consulting others on the talk page, like you usually do. If you want to suggest a drastic change, always propose it on the talk page first. Don't just do as you please.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:00, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
::I'm too convinced that Bulbapedia's style should be precise and consistent as it is on most of pages already. Do you have any reason for this page to not be like the others? Because there is one reason for and zero against. Also, I do many bigger changes by myself because my questions and suggestions are rarely answered and when they do there is almost no reason presented. For example you still haven't answered my question about Tierno's Raichu.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 16:31, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
:::Don't just go ahead with making largescale edits just because no one responds, that does not give you the privilege to just make the edit anyway. Wait for a response. The evolution chain is not the point of that section of the article, so there is not needs for a template that showcases an entire evolutionary line. The article is about gender, so it shows the different gender specific Pokemon. Evolutionary line has nothing to do with the article. And Tierno's Raichu is confirmed female because the original version stated that Attract failed on Blastoise because Blastoise was male.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:55, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
::::If there is no point in showing whole evolutionary line, then why don't you simplify it in the same way on other pages? And if Tierno's Raichu is confirmed female then why don't you mention that on page of Visquez's Raichu that it is the reason for not giving him gender. It's really annoying how you're making decisions you're not fully abide to.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 15:16, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::Just leave it. It's fine the way it is and gets the point across just as well. The point is to show the evolution method and the gender specific forms, since the section is titled "gender based evolution", and using the artwork shows the differences much more clearly than a minisprite. That and your template makes it inconsistent in design with the template right below it.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:17, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::And as I said, they don't all have to have the same template design. Some pages can have unique templates designs depending on the article. There is no inconsistency issue.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:21, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

== Urshifu ==
Honestly just a small issue I spotted regarding Urshifu's page, where the Tower of Darkness and Tower of Waters are referred to as the Temple of Darkness and Temple of Waters in the evolution box. It's a minor error, but it bothered me, so I made an account specifically to try to fix it, but of course it was protected, which I didn't realize was a thing because I didn't ever consider it. Anyway, just something I felt obligated to point out for the sake of accuracy. Thanks for your time reading this. --[[User:ArcaneCrystal|ArcaneCrystal]] ([[User talk:ArcaneCrystal|talk]]) 07:30, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
:Fixed.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:00, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

== List Grammar ==

On the Normal (type) page, you reverted my edit to the sentence, "Their inability to hit Ghost-type Pokémon can be nullified by using Foresight, Odor Sleuth, or by Pokémon with the Ability Scrappy." That's a list of two nouns (''Foresight'' and ''Odor Sleuth'') and a prepositional phrase ("by Pokémon with the Ability Scrappy"), which just doesn't work, or a list of two prepositional phrases ("by using Foresight" and "by Pokémon with the Ability Scrappy") and a noun (''Odor Sleuth''), which also just doesn't work. (At least, it doesn't work in American English; I don't know about other major dialects.)
[[User:Matthias von Schwarzwald|Matthias von Schwarzwald]] ([[User talk:Matthias von Schwarzwald|talk]]) 16:41, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

== "In the movies"? ==

Dear ForceFire,

I noticed several of the anime characters that have been featured in the Pokémon movies have sections titled "In the movies", while most are "In the anime". Is there a reason for this, or should it all be standardized to one format?[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:28, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
:If they've featured in both the main series and the movie series, then it should have two subsections for anime and movies (order goes by whichever they first appeared in). Movie exclusive characters get a history section.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

== Pokémon seen sections for anime locations ==

Dear ForceFire,

I would also like to clarify what Pokémon are typically included in the Pokémon seen sections of the location pages. While I think we can do away with these sections entirely due to differences in formatting and non-specific images as some appearance have only occurred in a group. I've noticed that some Trainer owned Pokémon are included in these segments, especially locations that hosted Contests, should it only be wild Pokémon and Pokémon known to actually reside in the area with their Trainer? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:34, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
:I think the section is necessary to showcase what Pokemon reside in the area. Multiple images of the same thing for individual Pokemon isn't a problem. It should ideally just be for wild Pokemon. I don't think a trainer's Pokemon being at a location counts, since it technically doesn't reside there (not sure why a contest location would have a section for that).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

== [[Tracey's Scyther]] ==

The Grammarfreak user insists on putting a "Johto" section for Tracey's Scyther. Since Tracey didn't have a "Johto Journey", does that make any sense?I mean, the Johto and Kanto level is not separated with Kanto arc and Johto arc unless the respective Pokémon has a journey in such a place (Gary's Eevee, Gary Arcanine they are like that as far as I'm concerned, right?).

Doesn't the page just list the point of view of that respective character?Even if you allow me, I think the division should be just in the anime saga (something like Original Series, Advance, Diamond and so on). As is done even in the manga section. In this case of Tracey, what is the point in creating a section to detail a journey it did not take?I don't know I managed to put my point of view correctly, I apologize if you may have been a little confused.[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]10:30, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
:The history is only separated by region if they have appeared in that region, yes. Though, in the case of Scyther, it did appear after the Orange Island arc but in Kanto and not Johto. I think renaming the section "Kanto", "Other", or "post Orange Islands" would be more appropriate.
:The region specific separation should only be for Pokemon that appeared in two different regions in an arc (so Hoenn and Kanto for AG, Kanto, Orange, and Johto for OS, so on so forth). If the Pokemon has done something notable or important in a region, then it should be noted.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:05, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

== New titles of new series ==

SS021 - Hit Your Mark, Wave Guidance! Satoshi and the Mysterious Egg!!(12/4)

SS022 - Farewell, Rabbifoot!(19/4)

SS023 - Massive Panic! Sakuragi Park!!
(26/4)

These are the new titles. Could you confirm and them in the list of new series episodes. {{unsigned|Dhiwakar}}

Don't worry about it, ForceFire. It's already added. Thank you. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:25, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

== Suggestion ==

I was wondering that should the Battle Frontier facility info templates be edited to include the possibility of a battlefield section, like with Gym info templates, and the game image of the facility in the template be replaced with the anime image, if possible. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:22, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
:While I wouldn't be against it (I only really checked the Battle Pyramid article, and an anime image would be a better alternative), tryask for second opinions.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:10, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
::Blazingfist has [[User talk:Blazingfist#Suggestion|also agreed to the idea]]. Should I ask some more users, or is this fine? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:30, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
:::If you'd like, you can make a mockup in your userspace and I can get the Editorial board to check it.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
::::I created a mockup [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Template:Facility Infobox|here]]. I mainly just added another image section to the bottom of the template. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:10, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::I've brought it up with the editorial board, waiting approval.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

== Does not explain name origin? ==

howdy, Force Fire. i'm just here to ask you, why have you removed my edit on Hawlucha's page? i was thinking it'd be possible that a Matador (Bullfighter) puts the "bull" in Luchabull. which is why i added it in the name origin. was there something wrong with it? ----[[User:inukoinu.k9|i n u k o i n u]] ''([[User talk:inukoinu.k9|talk]])'' 19:37, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
:It did not explain how the word "matador" itself is incorporated into the name. The relevance to bulls is already mentioned with just "bull" before it.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:10, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
::oh, i really wanted to add how i thought it meant but i guess not. i'm still just a bit new at this so, sorry. heh. ----[[User:inukoinu.k9|i n u k o i n u]] ''([[User talk:inukoinu.k9|talk]])'' 13:40, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

== Ash Ketchum page split suggestion ==

Hi Force Fire, I've started [[Talk:Ash_Ketchum#Article_split_suggestion|a proposal on Ash Ketchum's talk page]] about splitting it into different pages and I would like to hear from you as Senior Administrator! Thanks!--[[User:Crikko|'''★''''''Cri''''''ққ''''''ѳ~''''''*''']] 15:08, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

==Cynthia (anime)==
I was wondering if it might be worth giving Cynthia her own anime page or start work on one at least.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:54, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
:Sorry to use another user's conversation, but as the subject is the same ... Well, I started creating a [[User:Hikaru_Wazana/Korrina_(anime)|page for Korrina]]. I wanted your opinion, should I continue with it? I think that here I could start making more exclusive pages for the counterparts of some characters, mainly to relieve the space of some "official" pages of some. Because here there are a lot of pages I could gain from this, as the tidy could be more detailed and the main page would stay with only the basics.
:I think the site has a problem that many people prefer to fill the pages of Trivias, but do not put relevant content on the same page. This happens very often on trainer's Pokémon pages ([[Maylene's Lucario]] for example). But even relevant characters went through this, the page of the matriarch of Village of Dragons was almost a summary and did not even have all the character's participation. Bulbapedia could create a stricter rule for placing Trivias on the pages. I mean, it's just a suggestion.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 23:19, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
::I agree that some more Gym Leaders might necessitate sub-articles for their anime counterparts and so on and so forth, not just those who accompanied Ash on his journey. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:24, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
:::I think both Cynthia and Korrina are notable for their own article, though I suggest adding something to the "pre-series" section of her page before moving first.
:::As for anime articles for game characters, only if they've played an important role and appeared in more than a few episodes, obviously Surge, Roxanne, and Clay aren't notable for anime articles. If you have any suggestions, you can always start one up in your userpage and the staff will take a look.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
::::Went to mainspace Cynthia, but got this message. You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reason:
::::A page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 15:41, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
::I did the pre-series section and put content from episodes that were not included in the main article, as you suggested, Force Fire. If someone wants to coordinate efforts and make pages for characters notable enough for the page, I volunteer. I'm already making some Pokés for some characters.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 21:04, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
::I have moved both Cynthia and Korrina to the mainspace, though cynthia could do with an introductory paragraph, like the other anime character articles...--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
::::What are the rules for a character to get his own page? I mean, there is one, right?I know some people made a page for Hau, I have one in progress for Steve Stone. I believe that Clair has what is necessary, but it would be good to have an official opinion so that we don't have to make a lot of pages that we don't need. What rules do they use in the manga section? Would Morty, Norman, Roark, Gardenia or Brandon be notable?Sorry about the lot of questions. LOL.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 15:04, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::There isn't a hard notability rule for anime characters as there is for anime Pokemon, though some of the rules there would probably apply. Basically they must appear from more than a few episodes, play an important role in the series, and do more than just battle the main characters. Norman and Brandon could be notable, but not the others you mentioned.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:51, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
::::::Created a [[User:BigDocFan/Brandon (anime)|page]] for Brandon, was wondering if you could have a look.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 08:43, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Both Steven Stone and Brandon are fine to be mainspaced, both played a major role in their series.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:53, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
::::::::I personally disagree. We don't need to create such an excessive amount of separate pages. Cynthia and Korrina I can understand, but Steven and Brandon I disagree with. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:08, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::Both have played major parts in an arc they appeared in (Regigas arc for Brandon, Mega Evolution arc for Steven), and have done more that just battle. While I do go on and on over quality over quantity, the quality of those pages are fine.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:43, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
I added information to Brandon's page, I hope everything is right. Despite that, from now on I will only suggest the page when it is ready, Brandon's page was still far from ready(We still need to find a better image to put in the infobox). The one I'm doing for Steven I'll be letting you know when it's ready to head to the main space.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 22:04, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
:::https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Hikaru_Wazana/Clair_(anime)
Hi, I did the first drafts on this page, do you think it is good enough to go to the main space?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 20:09, 05 May 2020 (UTC)
:I've brought up that page with the other staff members, as I wasn't sure if Clair had done enough outside of battling to warrant a separate page, and they deemed Clair not notable for an anime specific article.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:55, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

== Undoing ==

I tried to undo an edit on my talkpage but the abuse filter wouldn't let me. --[[User:CaliforniaPokemonGirl623|CaliforniaPokemonGirl623]] ([[User talk:CaliforniaPokemonGirl623|talk]]) 03:30, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
:That usually happens when new users attempt to remove large amounts of information. I've removed the template from your talk page. Again, your talk should not be used as a userpage. The only thing that should be on your talk page, aside form the welcome template, are comments and discussions.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
::Hi [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] How many edits (specific number) are needed to get autoconfirmed? --[[User:CaliforniaPokemonGirl623|CaliforniaPokemonGirl623]] ([[User talk:CaliforniaPokemonGirl623|talk]]) 15:38, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
:::The number is kept secret, even I don't know what the number is. It's kept secret so users don't just make the reuired amount of edits and abandon the mainspace for the userpace.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:51, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

== Blast Burn, etc. ==

Hey, if I recall I don't think I repeatedly edited the pages for Blast Burn and similar moves to state that they were the Kanto starters' signature moves - I think I only edited each of them once (or possibly twice to correct mistakes). But in any case, before XD was released, the Kanto starters ''were'' the only Pokémon that could learn those moves, similar to Greninja with {{m|Water Shuriken}} before ORAS. They're even listed on the [[signature move]] page as such. Therefore, if they don't qualify as signature moves, then Water Shuriken shouldn't either. --[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 03:40, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
:I checked the history section of Blast Burn and you added it a few years back, which subsequently got reverted. Yes, the Kanto starters were the only one that can learn it, but it didn't ''keep'' it as a signature move for a generation, which is what (one of) the criteria is. I've removed the Greninja line on Water Shuriken.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

== Dinosaurtime.YT ==

Hey! It's clear {{user|Dinosaurtime.YT}} is going to continue edit-warring on articles rather than use the talk page. Do something about it? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:08, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
:It's just a matter of explaining to him how things work and that he can help in other sections, there are loads of pages that need help.There is no point in creating a problem with this, or to reach the moderator's page with that tone of words.[[User:Hikaru Wazana |Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 00:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
::It wouldn't be a problem if the user hadn't immediately gone to the talk page when their edits were contested. Repeated reversions is automatically punished with a block, whether anyone likes it or not. I would know. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:33, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
:::I've given them a message.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:51, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
::::Okay, thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:19, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Dinosaurtime.YT - Can i say something? I am not Edit-warring. It am just correcting information that is wrong. Many people seem to think that 1-57 is 52 episodes when it is not, it is 57 episodes. I am merely correcting people who are mistaken and wrong.{{unsigned|Dinosaurtime.YT}}
:You are clearly counting the episodes that never aired in the US. Because while EP001 to EP057 are season one, only 52 of them actually aired in the US (EP018, EP035, EP038, EP052, and EP053 were either banned or aired later).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:51, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
Oh, ok then, i din't know. I just thought it was a typo that had become believed. I made an extra point in the seasons page to correct it and let people know, just in case they didn't know and i apologise for the inconvenience and misconception. {user:Dinosaurtime.YT} {{unsigned|Dinosaurtime.YT}}
:That's not what the dot points are for. The dot points are listing the different definitions of a season. The stuff about irregularities in count can go elsewhere.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:12, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
:Where should it go then? In the first section of the page?--[[User:Dinosaurtime.YT|Dinosaurtime.YT]] ([[User talk:Dinosaurtime.YT|talk]]) 13:19, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

== Mainspacing suggestion ==

I have a page about [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Miette's Slurpuff|Miette's Slurpuff]] that's been waiting for a mainspacing decision for years now. Do you think it's notable and complete enough to be mainspaced? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:59, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

:I feel like Miette's Slurpuff hasn't done much outside of performing in Showcases, if I remember correctly. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:51, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
::Miette's Slurpuff isn't notable. It didn't do anything major, apart from its debut episode, and every appearance afterwards was just battling/performances.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:51, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
:::...Fine... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:25, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

== Team Rocket's disguises ==

I noticed the page on Team Rocket's disguises is written in the present tense, while we typically write in the past tense. Is there a reason for this? Also Butch and Cassidy have used disguises during some of their schemes, should these be included on the [[List of Team Rocket's disguises]] page?[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:54, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
:The wording on that article should be in past tense, yes. As for Butch and Cassidy's disguise, I wouldn't be against it, though you might need to suggest it to others.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:11, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
::Not a problem thanks. I'll message BlazingFist to confirm whether Butch and Cassidy's disguises should be added to the page. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 02:42, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
:::I've always thought the article should be written in present tense because it's always been that way. My bad, I guess. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:45, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

==Spoiler tags for Lusamine page? Maybe also for Chairman Rose?==
Okay as the both of us know, the wiki still has not tolerated spoilers in the opening paragraph of the [[Lusamine]] page (this may also be a good thing to potentially apply to [[Chairman Rose]].
Last I checked, the original Sun and Moon (the storyline where this fits into) was released approximately 3 - 3.5 years ago. Unowninator suggested spoiler tags, and I think that may be a worthy solution.
What do you think? [[User:Crummymummy|Crummymummy]] ([[User talk:Crummymummy|talk]]) 03:38, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
:It can be mentioned in the story section of her article, with a spoiler tag in the section (though I think the twist already been alluded to anyway), it will not go to the main paragraph as it is too much of a spoiler. It being 3 years after SM has been released means nothing. It's been years since Colosseum and XD were released and their villains have separate pages from their disguised characters.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:07, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

== Sun and Moon Walkthrough edits ==

Hi, I am a new user here who wants to edit and create walkthroughs. The [[Appendix:Sun and Moon walkthrough/Section 3]] page is essentially a copy and paste of the [[Hau'oli City]] page. When I tried deleting the parts unrelated or out of place in the walkthrough, I found that I couldn't, as it was automatically labeled as vandalism. Do I need to become an autoconfirmed user first, or do I need some other privileges? Thanks for your help. [[User:Mercilessstarfish|Mercilessstarfish]] ([[User talk:Mercilessstarfish|talk]]) 02:32, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
:That normally happens when new users try to remove large amounts of information. You just need to wait a while.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:00, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

== Lickitung's Lick ==

In 2016, you said on Jessie's Lickitung's talk page that the action of licking does not equal the move Lick. However, the announcer in Lickitung's debut episode clearly refers to the action as "Lick attack", as in "Lick the move". If you ask me, this is just an example of an anime move error than an "improvised" move. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:24, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
:I'm aware of what the announcer said, though I do not remember if it was dub added or from the original. I've removed the improved moves template from the page, the template itself having already been removed multiple times before only to be re-added again.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:14, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
::Okay. I looked into it, and it turns out that Lickitung's licking wasn't referred to as a move in the Japanese version. So yeah. I stand corrected. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:44, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

== My edits ==

Why are you reverting my edits to the Pokémon pages?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 04:53, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

== Do paintings of Pokémon count as anime appearances? ==

{{U|KnightGalarie}} [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Squirtle_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=0&oldid=3152250 certainly seems to think so]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:48, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
:Paintings are images, right?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 08:50, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
::I've been getting mixed signals about that, honestly. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:54, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
:::[[Bulbapedia:Manual of style/Anime#Pokémon appearances and debuts]].--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:09, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
::::So the Pokemon Park robots/animatronics don’t count as appearances at all?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 09:12, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::An exception can be made for those as they played a major role in their episode.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

==May's Ivysaur==
And hey as long as we’ve got you, why is May’s Ivysaur considered a “Major appearance” when her Ivysaur never actually appeared? I brought it up on the Ivysaur talk page but it didn’t get any traction--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 09:20, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

:If it has an article and belonged to a main character, then it's automatically a major appearance. The fact that most of its major appearances were spent as a Bulbasaur carried over to its time as an Ivysaur and then a Venusaur (which, if I may recall, didn't appear for too long either). [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:21, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
::But Venusaur at least got ''an'' appearance. Ivysaur has zero appearances. It can’t be a major appearance if there’s no appearance to speak of--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 09:24, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
:::The section is just more or less stating that May's Bulbasaur eventually evolved into an Ivysaur. It's fine.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

== My own block ==

Hey! I think I might have to be blocked too. I've reverted {{U|KnightGalarie}} so many times on so many different articles that I've lost count. Review my history and see if I've done enough reverts to warrant some sort of block, because I do feel like I've jumped the gun one too many times here. But at this point, I'm too tired to check for myself. Thank you! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:10, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

== GalarPony and KnightGalarie ==

Hey! Call it a far-fetched hunch, but is it possible {{user|GalarPony}} and {{user|KnightGalarie}} could be one and the same person? Not only do their usernames both have "Galar" in it, but both [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:GalarPony#Refusal_to_use_talk_pages GalarPony] and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:KnightGalarie#Block KnightGalarie] have a bad tendency to edit-war and use edit summaries to make their argument rather than trying to go to the talk page first. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:27, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
:Did a check between the two accounts. I've given them a message.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:31, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
::I just read your message. Honestly, given the similarities you just described (some of which I hadn't even thought of, honestly), it looks super-suspicious. I'm personally convinced they're the same person, but I suppose GalarPony's multiple IP addresses complicates things for you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:34, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
:::Whoa, whoa, whoa, how can the issue be [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AKnightGalarie&type=revision&diff=3153995&oldid=3153986 cleared up]? How could KnightGalarie share the same computer details as GalarPony and yet say they created their account on a cellphone? Unless there's something about computers I don't know about (and please feel free to explain it to me if this is the case), this is telling me two possible scenarios:

:::1) KnightGalarie is GalarPony and created the account with a cellphone, and then used the same computer to make their edits.

:::2) KnightGalarie and GalarPony are different people who share access to the same computer (which KnightGalarie hadn't exactly confirmed).

:::I think you should press for some clarification on their explanation, because I'm still suspicious about this. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:01, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
::::I don't believe that he is GalarPony. The only thing connecting the two are the matching devices, which isn't that helpful if it is a mobile device. The similar names isn't even a good reason, anyone can use the word "Galar" in their name. Their behaviors, whilst similar, are still circumstantial. In a sense, I decided not to pursue it any further. If you still have concerns, you can bring it up with someone of a higher rank than me.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:47, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

== Cynthia149 ==

{{user|Cynthia149}} had [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ANew_series&type=revision&diff=3154191&oldid=3154141 this lovely comment] to say at the [[new series]] talk page. Mind giving them a warning? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:27, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
:<s>Don't think it's too bad, but I'll leave a response on that talk page.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:47, 25 April 2020 (UTC)</s>
:Nah, I'll give them a message on their talk page instead.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:51, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
::Okay, thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 18:52, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

== Pokérap backwards ==

Hello Force Fire, I was browsing through my previous contributions to the Wiki and decided to look at the controversy page, I noticed that the point about the Pokérap had an inadequate source. After doing a search for "Pokérap" and "Satan" I found no first had source, I reckon this could be a myth like Lavender Town and the Vikings wearing horns on their helmets so removed it but you want a discussion so I'm starting one. The point doesn't have a valid source and makes Christians come across as overly paranoid, I don't think this site should allow misconceptions to spread, I mean after all the Lavender Town point isn't on the page which is a similar myth so why should this one?[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 21:53, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
:The Lavender town myth was actually busted. The Pokerap thing hasn't been busted. Does it make Christians look bad? Maybe? But people from other religions have said stuff about the franchise, so Christians saying such things wouldn't be too far off. I've already had a discussion about this with another user years ago, but it most likely happened during the 90s when Pokemon was at the height of its craze. Stuff like this probably wasn't documented at the time, and if it was, most likely died along with the 90s.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:29, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
::Your response comes down to "I speculate that it happened even though there's no evidence to support thid from the time, but I think it happened, therefore it must remain". Just because you think it MIGHT have happened doesn't mean it did and if a source died in the 90s we should assume it didn't happen (evidence must exist to confirm something). I think it seems quite a stretch because why would people decide to play specifically the Kanto Pokérap backwards. This is exactly like the Vikings with horned helmets, no account at the time yet believed to have happened because people spread their ideas after the time. Could it not be reworded to remove the piece about Christian fundamentalist, as we have no evidence that they specifically complained about this and instead just say that people (not Christians) have noticed (not complained) that you might be able to hear "I love you Satan" essentially showing that it's a rumour on the internet.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 11:09, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
:::I will agree with ForceFire on this one. Given that there was a "Satanic Panic" starting in the 1980s and lasting well into the 1990s before it finally stopped for the most part. I would assume that there was a lot of overly zealous christians at the time trying to say ANYTHING they could to get people to stop being fans of the franchise, including making up lyrics and such that they may have heard in the songs when played backwards. The earliest record I could find making mention of this "backmask message" was from a forum thread documented in 2004 where someone asked if others had heard of this rumor before and if they thought they heard the message as well. So while it has been pretty much impossible to find videos or articles where christian folks are flat out stating this, it likely had been stated at one point in time during the late 90s - early 00s before the website was removed. Given most early internet websites were poorly archived, it would likely be impossible to find records of older christian websites making note of it these days. That being said, as youtuber SteveTerreberry has shown, if you try hard enough, you can hear whatever you want out of a song in reverse, even though 99% of the time, there is nothing there in the lyrics anyways. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 12:30, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
::::I completely disagree, it all boils down to did Christians specifically say that you could hear "I love Satan" in the Pokérap played backwards. The answer is "we don't know, we have no evidence to show that they ever did" and Frozen Fennec saying that it wasn't properly archived is not an excuse, it needs to be proved and saying that it could have happened but we have no evidence is NOT an excuse. Just because they may have complained about other recordings doesn't mean that they did about this one and shows them as overzealous people who complain about a children's entertainment franchise (which really doesn't portray them as good people, and some people might find this unproven information offensive). Force Fire saying that this hasn't been debunked is also not an excuse because you need to prove that something happened, not assume that something happened because of something that appeared on the internet after the time. Finally it's not opinion it's about objectivity and fact and you need information to prove a FACT otherwise it should only belong on speculative forums and not an encyclopedia.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 14:58, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::Another thing I just thought of is why does it really matter if it remains on the page? If it's removed for being an internet rumour then it will still exist on speculative forums, that I mentioned earlier.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 15:03, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::I just noticed something else, it says "Some claim" present tense, in other words happening right now. Regardless of everything recently discussed it should be past tense.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 15:25, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

== KnightGalarie again ==

I don't appreciate the tone he's using [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ANew_series&type=revision&diff=3160327&oldid=3160316 here]. I most certainly wasn't lying; I didn't see the first template at first. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:14, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:In what way is this acceptable behavior? The minute you see something you don’t like, your first thought is punishment?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:21, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::I'm already on hot water with admins for sending my own warnings to other users, so I'm not taking any chances. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:24, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:::But your first thought was still punishment for saying something you disagreed with. I didn’t call you names--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:25, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::::You're claiming I lied, which was extremely rude and uncalled for. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:26, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::Uncalled for? You stated an easily-provable falsity in your argument. What else was I supposed to think?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:28, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::Very bold of you to assume I was maliciously lying when I was just distracted by other tabs on my computer at the time. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:31, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Which is why you acted out of malice by running to an admin after a single occurrence instead of solely talking it out with me--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:32, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::::Because, knowing me, I was going to remind you of certain site rules, which only admins could do. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:34, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::Rules that weren’t violated--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:35, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::Correction, certain user etiquette. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:38, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::::And yet you still thought you needed an admin to scold me --[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:39, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::::Because said etiquette is documented in the site rules. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:40, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

== Attention: Rillaboom's Biology Section - Please Add Info About Its Drumsticks ==

Could you please mention where Rillaboom keeps its drumsticks? It appears that they are in the leaf-like fur near its hands (similar to how Delphox keeps its branch in the fur on its arm).

We know this Pokémon carries its drum on its back, but if we don't mention where it keeps its drumsticks, it would feel incomplete. [[User:Macpika|Macpika]] ([[User talk:Macpika|talk]]) 18:21, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

==What did I do wrong?==

I made an edit on the [[move variations]] page about adding [[m|Pika Papow]] and [[m|Veevee Volley]] to the section about [[m|Frustration]]. I edited it and added the detail about the two moves being unable to miss and it was deleted by [[u|KnightGalarie]] for “changing criteria without permission”. I don’t know what I did wrong but is there a way I can fix this so I can add these moves into the page? Or better yet, how can I get permission to change criteria without permission? I just want to be able to do better next time.
[[User:PeakA|PeakA]] ([[User talk:PeakA|talk]]) 23:13, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
:The criteria is in the first line of the article, which you did not change, so you're fine in that regard. In regards to those two moves being variations of Frustration, they are not. A move with 100% accuracy can still miss, where those two moves cannot miss.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:16, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
::That’s what it was. Thank you for telling me about this. I am going to make a new section to out these moves in as I am sure they are variations of one another. Thank you for your help. Also someone mentioned for me to take down this question but I said no. Do they have permission to do that? [[User:PeakA|PeakA]] ([[User talk:PeakA|talk]]) 15:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
:::No, they don't have permission to tell you to remove this section. I'll send a message their way.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 17:02, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

==Zeno Robinson/Ray Chase/Cherami Leigh==
With their roles of Goh, Cerise and Chloe being main or major recurring characters, I was wondering if I could mainspace the pages I created for them? [[User:BigDocFan/Zeno Robinson]], [[User:BigDocFan/Ray Chase]] and [[User:BigDocFan/Cherami Leigh]]--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 09:36, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
:I would say yes to all three, only because we know those characters are recurring/main characters.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:16, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

== Idol Trainer class ==

Hello!!

[[Hibana]] isn't a even a tainer. You removed Idol characters in the anime section who are indeed trainers, idols, and use pokémon from fairy-egg group, such as [[Brittany (EP243)|Brittany]]. If you don't remove Hibana from the Anime section, you should at least add Brittany and [[Marina (Johto)|Marina]] who also are confirmed Idol in the anime. [[User:Jeangabin666|Jeangabin666]] ([[User talk:Jeangabin666|talk]]) 13:52, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
:Hibana is referred to as an Idol. Brittany and Marina existed before the trainer class, so they can't be part of a trainer class that didn't exist at the time of their appearances (and Marina isn't even referred to as an Idol in her DP cameo).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:24, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

== Privacy cleanup ==

Hi there, just doing some Internet history cleaning for privacy reasons. Would you mind deleting my user page and its page history (and the same for talk, if that's okay), as well as wiping this edit? No need to reply, thanks. --[[user:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] 21:39, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
: For the avoidance of doubt, this is a GDPR Article 17 request for the removal of personal data. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy Appletree]] ([[User talk:Poppy Appletree|talk]]) 21:51, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
:: Hey there, just stepping in on behalf of Force Fire, for us to process this request you'll need to send an email through to privacy@bulbagarden.net and someone should be able to take care of it for you. Thanks! -[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 09:41, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

== Conflict editing ==
Hello, we're in a conflict with [[User_talk:KnightGalarie]]. I added [https://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/features/recycle/misc.html this fact] with source, which he removed and keeps removing. Bulbapedia has whole pages about [[Anime character recycling|anime recycling]] and I think this is relevent to this encyclopedia. Can you take a decision please. [[User:Jeangabin666|Jeangabin666]] ([[User talk:Jeangabin666|talk]]) 15:47, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
::You’re supposed to talk it out with the user before running to an admin. People are allowed to disagree with you. That doesn’t mean you run to administrators to plow down anyone who opposes you--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 15:49, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
:::If the building that's being recycled has a distinct design to it, then I'd say it's notable. (One off) Human characters and buildings are different in that the (one off) human characters are usually designed to be distinctive, while buildings (unless it plays some importance like a Gym or PokeCenter) aren't.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:13, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
:::Also, Jeangabin can go to a staff member if they feel that the user they are trying to communicate with isn't being overly helpful or cooperative (which your comment wasn't).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:15, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
::::Except I gave a similar explanation you did when I first removed it (how the first suburbs were all clones of one another), and instead of addressing it, they claimed I wasn’t allowed to remove it without a discussion, which isn’t true on the first removal.--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 16:18, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::The problem is you're looking at the surroundings and not the building itself, which is the focus. Of course the surrounding is going to be super vague, but that's not what's being talked about.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:23, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

== Takeshi’s Paradise performances ==

Since the running gag is far too prominent to be trivial, I’ve readied it to be moved out of the trivia section. I’ve proposed two setups on the talk page and I’m interested what you might think would be the best option: The intro, like the Pokémon Theme’s remixes are for its page, or an “In the anime” type section (name TBA) that would be placed above the Lyrics section--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 06:00, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

== Block ==

At least [https://forums.bulbagarden.net/index.php?conversations/name-change-issues.533502/ you're right] with unblocking me. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdi]][[User talk:Bfdifan2006|fan2006]]''''' 10:42, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

== I want to make a new page ==

I want to make a list of pokemon that only appear in one regional pokedex list but I don't know how to create my own page so I combined it with the list of pokemon that appear in no regional pokedex can you please let me edit that one so it can be the one I want while still being the original page? {{unsigned|Luxray4}}
:You have to be {{bp|autoconfirmed}} to be able to make a userpage. And you may not edit a pre-existing page to be what you want it to be, that article is strictly for Pokemon that do not appear in any regional Pokedex.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:48, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

== African Vulture ==

{{user|African Vulture}} is starting to get really [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ANew_series&type=revision&diff=3170025&oldid=3169968 snippy] on the talk page of the [[new series]]. Just so you know. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:38, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

:And now they're going on tangents about {{U|Abcboy}}'s location. It's weird. ([https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ANew_series&type=revision&diff=3170153&oldid=3170113] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ANew_series&type=revision&diff=3170178&oldid=3170156]) [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:27, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

== The rules apply to everyone ==

Why do you refuse to follow them, and act in such a way to make everything in your favor?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 15:55, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

== Manga ==

Hello, with all the quarantine stuff, I've been researching Pokémon manga and as you can see from some editions I did I noticed that the manga brings almost a new universe to the mythology of the franchise(Which even adds a lot of content to characters from the anime itself). Anyway, I was wondering, how can I enlist members to help contribute in this specific area?Do you think I can do something like that, or is it kind of hopeless?I ask why I usually see people more focused on Trivia or other details, and the manga part is often neglected.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 01:24, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
:Manga is not generally my area of expertise. You can see who are more knowledgeable in the manga by checking the RC and seeing who normally edits the manga related pages. The suggested page itself, if it differs dramatically from the game/anime lore (which, it probably does), then it's probably worth attempting to create in your userspace.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:43, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

== Legendary Pokemon ==

You cannot just reverting my edits, are you aware of that?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 12:24, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
:Tiddlywinks already explained on the Ultra Beasts talk page that they're not legendary Pokemon, but that's obviously not an answer you like. There are multiple sources stating that the Ultra Beasts are not legendary.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:43, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
::Can you provide any?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 17:01, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
:::I can really only repeat the source Tiddlywinks posted on the Ultra Beast talk page. And really, that should be enough to say that they are not legendary. As Tiddlywinks said, they've been referred to as non-legendary multiple times, it's not worth beating the dead horse. You're clearly never gonna get the answer you want.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 17:09, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
::::I think that they should be considered "disputed" like Phione being mythical. None of these sources is a hard proof.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 17:16, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

== What are the rules? ==

What are the rules for trivia? It seems all over the place and I get the feeling speculation isn't allowed, but some pages have it in their trivia while others don't. And do administrators here answer to non-admin users? Just so I don't have to deal with asking questions on talk pages and never getting an answer, or making edits and then having them undone without an explanation, I'm posing this [possibly futile] question. If you don't want to answer that's okay, but we're gonna bump heads again in the future and I think it's fair I give you notice. [[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|BNK]][[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|Talk]] 18:23, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
:[[User:Force Fire/Trivia Policy]]. It's not official, nor is it complete, but it's something. Speculation isn't allowed, what articles have speculation in their trivia sections? Staff members will answer to anyone's question.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:24, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

== Piplup user ==

Don't be fooled by {{U|Piplup.}}'s new account, {{user|‎ポッチャマ}}. It's the Japanese writing for {{p|Piplup}}. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:30, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
:Yes, I am aware. The Japanese names aren't on the blacklist, just the English names. Which is an easily exploitable loophole. I'll bring it up with the other staff members, but they're fine for now.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:24, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
::Oh, okay. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:52, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
:::Would Russian names also be ok, like the Japanese names?[[User:ポッチャマ|ポッチャマ]] ([[User talk:ポッチャマ|talk]]) 22:23, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
::::I'm also wondering, would transliterations of other alphabets' Pokémon's names be okay?[[User:ポッチャマ|ポッチャマ]] ([[User talk:ポッチャマ|talk]]) 22:26, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::Other language names are fine. The point of having the English names blacklisted is to avoid confusion.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:07, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

== Questionable editor ==

A user named {{user|Zarxiel94}} has made multiple consecutive edits on "[[Sync pair]]", and practically all of the edit summaries say "trying to merge the same sync pairs and using the game sync pairs stories order instead of repeating the same sync pairs and using the release order avoiding the website to consider the edit a vandalism". Seems kinda weird to me, so I thought I'd let you know. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:53, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
:Looks like they're trying to make a largescale edit by making smaller edits so not to trigger the vandal filter, which is what I got from the Sync pair talk page. Largescale edits like those needs approval anyway.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:58, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
::Figured it was something to that direction. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:24, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

== Sync Pair ==
Why my edits was cancelled? I made everything to be good and simple. Is quite dumb have for the player character for exemple 24 spaces in the list when in fact the player just have 6 Sync Pairs right now, and in future are confirmed others 3 sync pairs for him. In this way when the others sync pairs will be released jus thim will ocupy 34.--[[User:Zarxiel94|Zarxiel94]] ([[User talk:Zarxiel94|talk]]) 19:49, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
:A large-scale edit like that requires discussion with and approval from an admin. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:05, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
::I tryed to contact someone in both talk page and private page. Nobody answered me--[[User:Zarxiel94|Zarxiel94]] ([[User talk:Zarxiel94|talk]]) 20:13, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
:::Have patience. Replies can sometimes take a long time to come. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 21:00, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

== Hyfg ==

A user named Hyfg has done a couple of big vandal edits today. I've reversed them already, but I was wondering if the user should be blocked? I'll also leave it up to you to decide if the vandal edits need to be hidden. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:56, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
:Looks like you were way ahead of me. Sorry for bothering you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:57, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
::It's okay.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:01, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

== Category name? ==

Why specifically use the category name for the Obedience article?[[User:JasonL|JasonL]] ([[User talk:JasonL|talk]]) 16:13, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

== {{m|Weather Ball}} ==

I have just created a [[User:Bfdifan2006/weatherball|variation]] for the {{template|movegen}} template for the page about {{m|Weather Ball}}. This is due to the issue we discussed on {{m|Talk:Weather Ball|its talk page}}. I've told {{user|Abcboy}} about this, so staff can hold a talk on the restricted section of the forums and remove the page from {{cat|pages where template include size is exceeded|this category}}. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006]]'''''[[User talk:Bfdifan2006|something to say?]] 08:08, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
:I think the cell below the image should be the type, rather than the generation. I also think this works for the side series, might have to do something a little different for the main series games, unless you want to try it the way you have it now.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:39, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
::Yes, Force Fire, it was intended to be type, not generation, but I was just too lazy to change. I will take these changes into consideration. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006]]'''''[[User talk:Bfdifan2006|something to say?]] 08:57, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

== Request renaming this user subpage without leaving a redirect ==

Could you please rename this subpage of mine to a new title (still in my userspace) without leaving a redirect?
* [[User:SilSinn9801/Alldex testbench]]
↓
* [[User:SilSinn9801/List of Pokémon that appear in multiple regional Pokédex]]
It’s a sandboxed copy of [[User:Force Fire/List of Pokémon that appear in multiple regional Pokédex|your own mainspace-candidate page]], but using my [[User:SilSinn9801/Alldexh|sandboxed]] [[User:SilSinn9801/Alldex|modifications]] of {{template|Alldexh}} & {{template|Alldex}}.

Thankee! ‐⁠‑''[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]]'' ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') [[User talk:SilSinn9801|💬]] 17:08, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:03, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

== Asdawdasd ==

I think {{user|Asdawdasd}} may be a vandal. Take care of it? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:55, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

== Ash's Heracross's gender ==

While I personally agree that Ash's Heracross is male, the reason why its gender hasn't been added to Bulbapedia before was because some admins don't consider Pokémon in the anime that had gender differences introduced to their species in Generation IV confirmed as being of the gender matching the outlook of their gender from the games, if the individual Pokémon was introduced before Generation IV. I hope you understand what I was trying to say. And, again, I personally don't disagree with you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:17, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
:I mean... I'm one of those admins that does not consider a pre-Gen IV debuted Pokemon being of a certain post Gen IV gender. This is currently being discussed with the other staff members.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:30, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
::And yet, you still made the edit. I hope this leads to this opinion being verified. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:48, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

It's been decided that it stays at unknown, as the female variant that appeared wasn't stated to be a female Heracross. It may seem a tad strange, but the anime has shown a gendered Pokemon without its gender defining attribute (Raichu).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:27, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
:To be fair, Raichu's gender difference is pretty small, but yeah. I kinda guessed this was going to happen. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:37, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

== Mainspaced Goh's Pokémon ==

Hi good day. Since in episode 23, most of the Goh's Pokémon gained a great prominence, is there any chance that at least those who stood out as main ones like [[User:Hikaru Wazana/Goh's Beedrill|Beedril]], [[User:BigDocFan/Goh's Darmanitan|Darmanitan]], [[User:Hikaru Wazana/Goh's Cubone|Cubone]] and [[User:Riox-Ibui/Goh's Golurk|Gorluk]] are going to be in the main space?[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 12:03, 07 May 2020 (UTC)
:The requirements states that they need to have been withdrawn from Cerise's lab and taken to another region.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:51, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
::In that case, Beedrill fits this rule, right?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 12:54, 07 May 2020 (UTC)
:::Not sure if it's involvement is of note. Sure, the battle itself was important, but Beedrill itself really didn't do much.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:43, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

== Confusing username ==

{{user|Instagram}}

'''REQUEST:''' Block this user

Request sent at 11:50, 9 June 2020 (UTC) by '''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006]]'''''[[User talk:Bfdifan2006|something to say?]]
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:43, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

== Is GrammarFreak banned yet? ==

Do you think this lovely user that you just blocked was a sockpuppet? I can't imagine this person simply brought me up because they randomly selected me from a sample of users. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:05, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
:None of their IP addresses or email matches anyone else, but it is highly likely it is someone that you've crossed path with in the past.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:41, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
::Okay. Thank you for checking. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:43, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

== Kunihiko Yuyama interview for M20 ==

Would you happen to know how to use the Wayback Machine for [https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/f217f5d4d220125649d09386fb6750cfa794af9c this source], or anyone who would? I'm hoping to gain access to the original interview and use it as an external source for [[M20]]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:09, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

:Hello? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:03, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
::SnorlaxMonster may help regarding using wayback machine.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:09, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

== Category of questionable notability ==

A user created a category called "Arrested characters" for characters who have been, well, arrested in the anime. Personally, I don't see much notability in such category, but what's your opinion? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:04, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
:I had noticed that and brought it up with the other staff members earlier today. We agree that it's not notable.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:01, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

== Unacceptable username ==

A user recently registered with the username of {{u|Thots}}, and I think that should be disallowed. I mean, we wouldn't allow someone to sign up with a name like "whores" or "sluts". [[User:Mr. Daikon|Mr. Daikon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Daikon|talk]]) 20:04, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
:Dealt with.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:39, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

== Suggestion ==

I'd like to make a suggestion. Shouldn't pages like [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Physical_move#List_of_moves] not show contest category anymore? It was useful only in the 6th generation. Now it could be replaced by current mechanic like power of Max Move.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 12:51, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
:Also, power of the moves is describes as "varies" and "-" pretty inconsistently, as I pointed out here [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Metal_Burst_(move)].--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 15:38, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

==Casey Mongillo==
With their role of Goh's Scorbunny and Chrysa, I was wondering if [[User:BigDocFan/Casey Mongillo]] could be mainspaced?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 13:11, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
:They meet the first requirement, the page is good to be mainspaced.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:09, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

== Goh's Pokémon list ==

Goh keeps catching new Pokémon every other episode, making the Pokémon list on his page ever longer. Should said list (aside from probably Raboot) be split into its own separate (sub)page? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:57, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
:That has been brought up a few times, and I personally agree that it should be split off before it gets too large. I believe someone already has a subpage in their userspace. I can bring it up with other the staff members to see what they think.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:43, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you. Please do that. I'll be looking forward to what they say. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:05, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

== officer Jenny is not voiced by Lipica Shaw pre bw112 ==

I'll present this in a mildly entertaining way.

Bad admin! bad! Go to your bed and think about what you done!

Just because you're an administrator dude does not mean that you are in the right or that you get to tell me I am wrong.
I defy you, my beautiful and smart Australian friend, assuming the BW anime even still is available on Ausie netflix or else if there are DVDs of BW episodes pre-BW112 to find me 1 episode in which Officer Jenny is voiced by Lipica Shaw, who hasn't even appeared in the BW series outside of voicing a battle judge in I believe BW051. Oh wait you can't because you show Shaw episodes prior to BW112 and she won't remember it because she had nothing to do with any of Jenny's apearences prior to BW112. The facts are on my side baby, and i know I don't mean maybe.
Shaw hasn't appeared in BW as Officer Jenny prior to BW112 and both Tom Wayland and the credits agree with me. Remember that? You used Tom Wayland as your source before? Was he lying? I no longer have twitter, because of some fool mistaking me for somebody else, otherwise I would have gotten a confirmation for you.
You best remove Lipica for anything prior to BW112 until you can prove she was even Jenny prior to Adentures in Unova and Beyond.
So I hope they do have the BW anime down under there because this time, it is you who must prove your case.
So can the admin prove himself that Lipica Shaw was Officer Jenny prior to BW112? or will the Admin dude have to admit that he is dead wrong, as admins often are.
This is a case where your admin status won't effect the outcome, as it's a matter of facts, not subordination.
Until you figure that out, you will be put in a water cage so your force fire can't get out of control.
Good luck proving me wrong, and how I wish I still had me a twitter so I could smash your doubt.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 15:52, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

:1) Calm down 2)You still need a source, you can't just say you had one and not show it. We're not going to believe anyone that comes here saying they have a source and not provide it. 3) Credits are not valid sourced. Why? Because the credits don't say who voiced who. It just lists the names of the voice actors. And even if what you say about the credits is true, it doesn't mean Emily voiced Jenny. She could've voiced another character instead, because the credits don't say who she voiced.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:05, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
::Whilst trying not to get too involved in this dispute, I have sent Shah a tweet to see if she remembers--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 16:14, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

To keep up the mildly entertaining theme, with assurences that I am calm:
Big dock, good move! I wish that I haden't been oh so cruelly banned from the wonderful world of twitter due to them thinking I was somebody that I was not. (I've been framed!)
And forcy of 'da fire, either way, even if the credits don't say "Emily voiced Jenny" they still do not list Shaw outside the Elesa episodes prior to BW112. Take BW006 fore example. What's that? No Lipicas of the shaw!
BW045, which is my favourite BW episode. Hmm, it could be an illusion, but who's name do I not see listed in the episode? Oh baby have we got no Lipica and no Shaw, nor any of her other alternate names.
BW101 also is absent the Shaw of Lipicas.
So, if Lipica Shaw voiced Jenny prior to BW112, why would she not be at least listed in the credits of those episodes as an actor?
Hmm, appears to me that something rather odd is going on, or it could be one of Beheeyem's illusions again.
But force of the fires of Bulbapedia, if I am wrong, and y'all can prove that Shaw was Jenny prior to BW112, then I'll know, as in the event of me being wrong about this, I will get a firm kick back into line by a Scorbunny.
So what will the results be? Even if we don't list Emily for BW006 to BW101 I'm fine with that. Does Emily still have twitter?
Well, either the Officer Jenny article will list Lipica Shaw for BW112-BW138, or I'll get a firm kick back into line by Scorbunny.
I await the results.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 16:24, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

:Wait for BigDocFan to come back to us if Shaw has responded. Also, like I said, even if Lipicas wasn't credited in those episodes, you can't assume that Emily voiced Jenny, as again, the credits don't say she voiced her. And going by process of elimination is still speculation, as another voice actor may be able to produce a similar sounding voice.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:30, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
I do await BDF.
What I am saying is that I don't doubt that the credits do not list the rolls, nor do I doubt that there are other actors that could produce a similar voice.
However, I'm saying that Lipica isn't in the credits of BW006-bw101, therefore unless TPCI are notorious for not crediting people, it couldn't have been Shaw.
I will agree not ot put Emily as BW006-BW101 until those can be confirmed.
I am saying that Lipica couldn't have done those as he isn't credited.
Again, I could be wrong, and if I am, then I will get that firm kick back into line by a Scorbunny.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 16:56, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
::::Response was Hi there! Oh no I came on during season 16 I think? It was so long ago! IMDB says 16.06 was my first Officer Jenny appearance. https://twitter.com/LipicaShah/status/1272209539790708736. I would wait to see what admin say before acting--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 17:03, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, BigDocFan. While I won't count the imdb bit, but it at least clears that part up. Just need to find out who voiced Jenny before her.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User ztalk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 17:21, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2069488/fullcredits

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1798941/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2508244/fullcredits
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2673214/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ql_1
there you go
I don't know how reliable IMDB is but it's something.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 17:38, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
:Based on African Vulture's theory, I will tweet Emily Jeyness to see if she recalls voicing Jenny during that period--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 17:46, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
Does she even have twitter?
I couldn't find one, but I did link some IMDB links for you in my comment from 17:38 so you at least have some kind of source.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 20:10, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

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== Sun2020 ==

Hey! I have a strong reason to believe {{user|Sun2020}} is yet ''another'' sockpuppet of {{user|Kittystyler}}. Sun2020's writing style for [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ash_Ketchum&type=revision&diff=3088750&oldid=3088687 this edit] to [[Ash Ketchum]] is extremely reminiscent of Kittystyler's old writing style for [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ash_Ketchum&type=revision&diff=2955518&oldid=2955392 this edit] to the same article. Do you think you can look into it? Thank you! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:20, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
:Why does Kittystyler refuse to give up? I find these repeated comebacks very tiresome. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 21:25, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
::Because they're a troll, especially considering they refused to even acknowledge the existence of their original talk page when they were still active here. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:28, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
:::They were indeed Kittystyler and have been dealt with.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:46, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
::::Okay, thanks! :D [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:09, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

== Archive 10 ==

I removed the link to an image that doesn't exist on the Archives in the topic I wrote. [[Special:Diff/3090821]] --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''キー''']][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|'''Ａ''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''コン''']] 10:08, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

== Template approval ==

If you have the time, please let me know if {{red link|User:Daniel Carrero/Puzzle}} needs anything to be approved (any change in contents, layout, etc.). If/when possible, I'd like it to be moved back to the template namespace. I also asked about aproving it on Discord, though I'm still waiting to see if anyone will reply there.

I created that template and used it in these pages:

* [[List of puzzles (PPL)]]
* [[List of puzzles (PPC)]]

--[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 16:30, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
:I think asking staff who has more knowledge on the side games would give a better opinion.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:57, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

== Pseudo-legendary ==

Hi Force Fire, thanks for adding Dragapult to the [[Pseudo-legendary Pokémon]] article (which I requested on Discord since I don't have edit access). The box for Dragapult is bigger than the other boxes in the first section, though. [[User:Qzekrom|Qzekrom]] ([[User talk:Qzekrom|talk]]) 18:55, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
:You're welcome. I'm aware that the Dragapult image is large, I did try to resize it to make it smaller (as to make the template even with the others) but felt that it made the image look too small and unidentifiable, so I just left it as is.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:57, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
:: Is there a way make it smaller for the section that shows all [[Pseudo-legendary Pokémon]] together? It jsut getting clutter up and hard to see them all.--[[User:Jacob9594|Jacob Kogan]] ([[User talk:Jacob9594|talk]]) 05:59, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
:::That's the section I was talking about. Felt that making the Dragapult image smaller made the image unidentifiable.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:05, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

== Two things ==

# Why did you revert me at those pages about types?
# I'm still waiting for approval of these pages:
#* [[User:TheICTLiker4/E O]]
#* [[User:TheICTLiker4/Template:NewMove]]
Please respond quickly. --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''TheI''']][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|'''CTLi''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''ker4''']] 08:30, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
:#Mass updates involving multiple article must be approved by a staff member. You can't just do as you please.
:#None of those are up to standards, especially the latter.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:09, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
::#Okay. I will follow this rule, even while moving pages.
::#Both pages are marked for mainspacing, and they're awaiting approval. “[...] especially the latter” — you are wrong, as some content is hidden by <includeonly> because if not, the page would be in categories reserved for move pages, and [[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] has fixed that. --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''TheI''']][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|'''CTLi''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''ker4''']] 18:58, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
:::Granted I didn't really look at the coding and just saw the template as is and thought that it looked incomplete and far too different to that actual "NewX" templates that we have.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 01:48, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
::::But what about the first page I listed in this subject ([[User:TheICTLiker4/E O]])? --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''TheI''']][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|'''CTLi''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''ker4''']] 20:00, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

== What's the point? ==

Why did you revert my episode title changes? SM003 is CLEARLY a pun, that's not difficult to see at all. We've added pun titles before. So why not now? And the others were put in the correct order of the Japanese title (not the translations of them) and added with words that needed to be added, like "region", when region is clearly in the title and has been included in other episode titles that had the Japanese characters for the word "region" in them before? Why stop now? We don't NEED to rely off translations from people over at Serebii. Other people CAN add titles as well. If there's a problem with them, at the very least explain why, I'm so annoyed with you being angry at me. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 09:43, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
:And I've done nothing wrong to deserve this from just a single admin. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 09:45, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
::I rolled back your edit on the episode list article based off your SM003 edit. The other changes, while questionable, were fine. As for SM003, as we discussed before, not everything is a pun. "Fushigi da ne" can be an actual phrase. Just because "fushigi" is in the title, doesn't automatically make it a pun.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:01, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

== Template edit request ==

Given the fact that Go is on a pretty constant catching spree, should the category for episodes in which a main character obtains a new Pokémon be included in the new episode template? Kinda like how the category for Mythical Pokémon appearances was included in it while Ash had Meltan/Melmetal in his active team? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:24, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
:I've brought up the suggestion with the other staff members.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:43, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
::Having the category there before the episode airs is a bit assumptious, especially if said episode isn't an episode where Go catches anything. So the category is not going in the template.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:23, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

== Noise Reduction on Gen 8 Pokemon images ==

I've done some easy experimenting with noise reduction on the grainy Pokemon images in photoshop, with much improved quality. Was wondering if there was any reason this hasn't been done already. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 05:42, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

== Pichu Posse members ==

Dear ForceFire,

I've been in the process of reviewing the appearances of the Pichu Brothers and their associates in the anime. However I noticed there were some Pokémon listed on the Pichu Brothers page as members of the Posse who wouldn't fit the description of being a "friend" and are simply recurring wild Pokémon such as Snorlax, Houndour and the Squirtle Squad. Feraligatr and Murkrow other recurring wild Pokémon, that are yet to have a mention anywhere, however their appearances are brief like the others. Should they have separate sections on the [[Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime]] page or should all the recurring Big Town Pokémon be listed on one page with the subsections "Pichu Brothers", "Pichu Posse" and "Other Big Town Pokémon"? Regards, [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 13:41, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

== Why did you undo my Wedgehurst edit? ==

[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Wedgehurst&diff=3097122&oldid=3097003 You didn't even leave a reason why.]] [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:05, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
:It's not notable. The other trainers "not noticing the Slowpoke" isn't notable either. The nurse knowing it isn't suppose to be some in-universe thing. Just like the bulletin boards in Black and White announcing the Pokemon outbreaks, it's not meant to be an in-universe thing where everyone in that universe knows about the outbreak (I don't recall other NPC characters commenting on the B/W outbreaks).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:25, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

== Origins Corrections ==

Hello! I am new to bulbapedia and I saw you reverted some of my changes to the verb conjugation implying uncertainty in two different articles. You mentioned that I would be allowed to do this in the future in the case that I have an official source. What constitutes an official source in this case? I ask because I would be willing to write to someone (maybe a developer?) in order to get confirmation but I do not wish to do this if it is unlikely written confirmation would not count as an official source. Are interviews with developers acceptable? Ideally, if you could link me to some sort of list that includes examples of acceptable sources that would be very helpful for me. Thank you for your time. [[User:DeterministicSpaceRichard|DeterministicSpaceRichard]] ([[User talk:DeterministicSpaceRichard|talk]])
:An interview with the original Japanese (or Western, in James Turner's case) designer is the absolute source. An example would be the interview with Pikachu's designer where she revealed its origin. We don't have a list because interviews with the designers regarding Pokemon origins are scarce.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:54, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

== why did you revert my edit? ==

I'm completely new to editing this wiki and was wondering why you [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ponyta_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=3097546&oldid=3097545 undid my first edit]? You didn't leave a reason in the reversion's edit summary and I didn't think my edit was "bad". Is there some policy about the trivia/name origin section I don't know about? {{unsigned|Twisted Code}}
:I had already removed that previously, as I felt that it was not really necessary to point out.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:28, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
::By that standard, what makes anything else on this wiki "necessary", especially stuff in the trivia section? I don't really understand the line you're drawing, as it seems like it could go either way. Then again, I'm new here so what do I know?¯\_(ツ)_/¯--[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 18:33, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
:::If you don't mind me inserting myself, I think that that's a worthy trivia point. I didn't realize it until reading it here. It's the exact kind of thing I'd expect to see in a trivia section. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 19:31, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
::::Trivia point, sure. Just don't think it's worth pointing out in the name origin section as the line before already conveys what is being said well enough without trying to be witty.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:32, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::maybe we could move the "based on a unicorn" trivia point altogether then? Seems that point being in *specifically* the name origin subsection is the issue. I'd like to point out the pun one way or another, as I thought it was a clever quip from the developers.--[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 13:46, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
::::::Uh... no. That line is meant to be in the origins sections as it's detailing what Galarian Ponyta might be based off. The extra bit about "unique horn" isn't necessary.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:38, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::::... And "unique horn" supports that point that it "might be" based on a unicorn. I don't see what the big deal is here, or why one piece of trivia is more "necessary" than any other piece? Is there some sort of rule against acknowledging puns (even to support another point) or something? --[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 13:21, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::::After a bit of thought and reading [[WP:WP:WIN|one of Wikipedia's (a.k.a. the mother of all wikis or "MOAW") policies concerning impasses like this]], I've decided I'm willing to just leave it go. Mostly because I know you're an admin and I don't feel like challenging the "staff won't bite" claim in the [[template:welcome]] message, but also because this impasse is such an enigma to me that it doesn't feel worthwhile trying to understand it — especially in light of the policy I mentioned (which presumably also applies to any wiki created in the same spirit of collaboration). That said, please register and take into account my STRONG objection to your decision in this matter, and on that note, have a nice day :-)--[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 22:43, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::::Apologies for the late response. It saying that Galarian Ponyta might be based of a Unicorn is suffice enough, without the need to be witty or smart. Like I said, if anything, the pun goes in the main trivia section, not the name origin section. As for the Wikipedia policy, we are not Wikipedia. We do not share the same rules or guidelines (well, we might share some, but not all, and definitely not that one).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:32, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::I accept that explanation, though I'm struggling slightly to reconcile it with my original thinking (though in any case, my initial question is settled). As for the thing about Wikipedia: yes I realize this is not Wikipedia, nor is it a project belonging to Wikimedia; what I meant by what I said was that, as both wikis are, by nature, collaborative projects and that policy is conducive to cooperation, I felt it could be applicable here, not that it would actually be enforced because, as you said, this isn't Wikipedia. Sorry about that, I should've been more clear.--[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 19:10, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

== Sobble's Origin for Trivia Section ==

We know Sobble is based on a chameleon and it says that's it's Water-typing is based on the basilisk lizard, but here's another thing you could add which makes a lot of sense (like how it also connects to water). Below are the reasons/facts and links.

Because of its color scheme and type, Sobble could be based on the Veiled chameleon. Even though it's not aquatic, it has a special adaption to collect water in its habitat where there is little water. This species of chameleon has a casque (the helmet-like protrusion on top of its head) that collects water. At night, droplets of moisture roll down the casque and into the chameleon's mouth.

The way the droplets flow down the Veiled chameleon's face could give the illusion that it's crying which could explain the teardrop markings on Sobble's face. The adult males of this species have defined bands of blue and yellow. Those two colors are part of Sobble's color scheme.

Here are the links for more information: https://animals.sandiegozoo.org/animals/chameleon (As you scroll down, start reading where is says "A water-catching casque.") https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veiled_chameleon

Here is a picture of the adult male Veiled chameleon: https://flchams.com/chameleon/adult-veiled-chameleons-for-sale/ [[User:Macpika|Macpika]] ([[User talk:Macpika|talk]]) 04:02, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
:Its behavior and appearance is similar enough, you can add it if you want to, just remember to use "may be based off" or "appears to be based off" rather than "is based off", since it's still speculation.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:11, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

== Adding Tabs ==

ForceFire,
How do I add tabs to pages? I want to add a trivia tab to a move page, [[G-Max Wind Rage]]. How do I do that?
[[User:PeakA|PeakA]] ([[User talk:PeakA|talk]]) 18:33, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

== How is that correct? ==

[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Chandelure_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&curid=115955&diff=3102742&oldid=3102717] Isn't it pronounced "home-ige"? Thus it should be "a" instead of "an". [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:20, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
:You need to google how to pronounce it. It comes in two English-speaking flavors and isn't worth making a change for. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 17:02, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
::Sorry if I'm being a pest, but the first result I found is literally "hom·age". [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:09, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
:::And underneath that is how to pronounce it. "/ˈ(h)ämij/" [https://www.google.com/search?q=homage+pronunciation&oq=homage+&aqs=chrome.0.69i59l3j69i57j0j69i60l3.3435j1j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 The h is in parentheses for a reason.] If you straight up google 'herb' like you did with homage, you'll get the same thing, even tho we don't say the 'h' at all. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 17:28, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::I think you picked a poor example, because everyone I hear that says "herb" uses the "h". However, it's clear I'm not going to make any progress talking about this, so you'll probably be happy to know that I give up. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:40, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

== Question ==
Do you believe that Ōkido (オーキド) means anything in Japanese? [[User:Wc12271991|Wc12271991]] ([[User talk:Wc12271991|talk]]) 22:19, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

== Pseudo-legendary Pokémon ==
Now that Ash has captured a Dragonite, can you unlock the Pseudo-legendary Pokémon page so I can add that information to it, please? [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 17:40, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
:The pseudo legendary page is '''never''' getting unprotected. If an edit needs to be made, request it on the talk page of the article or go to an admin.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:02, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

== Vandal ==

We have a vandal on the loose. Could you or some other admin do something about them? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:46, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
:Never mind. They were just dealt with. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:46, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

== New page ==

Thank you,ForceFire for helping me out in the talk. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:25, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

== Split ==

Could the Wyndon Stadium article be split to have a subpage for the Champion tournaments the same way as "Pokémon League (Alola)" was split to have a separate subpage for Title Defense? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:41, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
:I've brought the suggestion up to the others. I personally wouldn't mind it being split, since the page is already large.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:14, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you. Please let me know when a decision is made. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:55, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

== Recurring definition? ==

I'm confused. Please explain why {{MTR}} was removed from the recurring wild Pokémon in the anime page? I agree that he is a main character, however he is also a wild Pokémon that has been featured in than one episode, meeting the recurring wild Pokémon criteria. Recurring means just that occurring again. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 13:52, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
:Meowth doesn't appear every now and then, he appears in every episode (bar B/W, but that has already come and gone), which is the direct opposite of being recurring.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:05, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
::Speaking of other things not meeting the criteria … the list of Ash's temporary traveling companions has some questionable additions.

::Ritchie was simply encountered and is listed even though his appearances over three episodes was part of the Team Rocket-Lugia arc, plus Oliver and Luka who appeared during the same period are not.
::Zoey, while she appeared across multiple episodes in Snowpoint City, she simply met up with the group rather than traveled with them.
::Dia is another questionable addition, and while he appeared in two episodes, it was only while Ash was in the alternate dimension. Your thoughts? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 23:21, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Can Mewtwo of the original series be added? It appeared in two main episodes and multiple specials. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 08:36, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Zeraora matches the definition of a recurring wild Pokémon: a wild Pokémon that appears in more than one episode and has some enough notable sort of involvement in the plot. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:46, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
::::I'm not sure if there is a criteria for Ash's temporary travelling companions, but I think the idea should be if they're with Ash for more than three episodes and travel from place to place, they should be added. Which I guess would discount Dia. Get second opinions.
::::I'm not sure if major movie characters count? I know there's Slowking there, but it doesn't play a major role in its movie. As for Zeraora, I think it comes down to how many episode appearances counts as "recurring". I don't think Zeroara as much as most of the Pokemon on the recurring article.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:05, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::I've sought a second opinion. Thanks for the replies on today's queries. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 10:55, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

== BW058? ==

I saw the change made to BW058. However I based those additions on the fact that Gym Leader's Pokémon evolving like [[Roark's Cranidos]] has been listed in the past, plus Chili is a recurring character and also the brother of Cilan. {{unsigned|PardescanSlowbro}}
:Roark's Cranidos evolving is notable as it effects Ash's battle with him. The additions you made to BW058 weren't that major and didn't need to be elaborated on.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:54, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

== Upload problem ==

I belong to the autoconfirmed members group and recently created my userpage. I can't upload any images and it denied permission saying I must be autoconfirmed. Please look into this issue and I also have have a lot of images from the new series, that I want to upload!! [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 11:27, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
:Image uploading is done over at the [https://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page Archives], and you have to be autconfirmed over there. Autoconfirmation on the archives is separate than on Bulbapedia. So you have to make some edits on the Archives to become autoconfirmed.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:40, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you ForceFire for your advice --[[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:37, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

I have a doubt,is there any colour difference between Ash's Pikachu in the Japanese and English dub of the pokémon anime? Can you please say something about it! --[[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:39, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

== About Dinamax/Gigantamax in the anime ==

When a Poké evolves, here it usually says "x took y episodes to evolve" or something. How will you do with Pokémon that reach that level?For example, I'm doing a Gyarados'page for Lance. I put something like Lance's Gyarados took xxx episodes to dinamax (is that the name we should put?)? Where is this kind of information going to be? In the box with the animal's information?Are there any rules or tutorials already done explaining this? I really appreciate it if you can help me.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hilaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 13:54, 02 February 2020 (UTC)
:That's probably not going to be noted in the infobox, we don't note "how long" it took for a Pokemon to Mega Evolve. If anything, that goes into the main history section of the article.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:24, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hilaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 16:08, 02 February 2020 (UTC)

== Champion ==

Lance was mentioned as the Indigo league champion in the preview of SS012. But, the trivia of SS012 has a edit that says he lost his championship somewhere in the middle of the anime. Is it right? --[[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 16:30, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
:Please answer my question quickly [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:10, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
::Trivia has since been removed as it needs to be verified if he states that he's an Elite Four member in the original Japanese version.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:15, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
I'm sorry about that, actually Lance is mentioned as the member of Kanto Elite four by Go in the preview. I checked it and undid the edit in SS012. Hope you wouldn't mind about the undo and thank you, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:20, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
:I've found Japanese sources describing [[AG097]] that describe Lance as an Elite Four member in his Hoenn appearance as well. He indeed hasn't been referred to as a Champion since the Johto era of the anime. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:50, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
::Dhiwakar, please don't add back the trivia until the problem has been resolved. Finnish, if someone can find the Japanese episode and confirm it, I think that would be solid evidence.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 17:02, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
: Okay ForceFire, I assure you I would not add it in the trivia until it is solved. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 17:09, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
: If you don't mind, I shall ask something. Lance was mentioned as the member of Kanto Elite four in the preview of SS012. Isn't it enough to solve the problem? [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 16:54, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
::I'm afraid you're missing the point here. We're trying to solve if he was referred to as an Elite Four members Pokémon in [[AG097]], because that affects the piece of trivia you're wanting to add to SM012. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:02, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
: I get it now,thank you FinnishPokéFan92. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 05:45, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

== Question, out of curiosity ==

When you customize a signature, does that affect signatures that have been already submitted ''before'' said customization? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:08, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
:No. The new signatures comes into affect after you've changed it.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:29, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
::Okay, thanks. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:38, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

== Delete, please ==

I recently moved Porygon's evolution category, following its Evolution item's new formatting. Could you delete the unnecessary redirect that was formed in the process? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:48, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:02, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
::Now I've moved the category for Elite Four members' Pokémon to remove an unnecessary uppercase "M". Could you remove the redirect? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:23, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:01, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

== Colour difference ==

Is thre any difference between Ash's Pikachu in the Japanese and English dub of the anime. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:40, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
:Please answer this question, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:53, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
::Not too sure what you mean here. Could be a number of factors.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:45, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Sorry about that, i forgot to mention the word colour inthe above question. It was actually, " Is there any colour difference between Ash's Pikachu in the Japanese and English dub of the anime?". [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 08:37, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
:Not that I'm aware of.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:31, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:20, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

== Debut uncertainty ==

For movie 22, should cases like Gary's Pokémon on his page or Mewtwo on Viridian Gym's page have their debut appearances listed to be their main series debuts or M22? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:44, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
:Whichever one aired first in Japan. M01 (I believe aired first before EP063). Not M22.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:45, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

== User page ==

I want to move the usertag box to the right corner of my page. But I don't know how to do it. Can you please help with this!I won't edit it if you say it today itself,because I have already done three edits in my userpage!! [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 09:53, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
:The code containing the tags should go above everything.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:31, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
I can't understand completely, can you show me a pic of it, please. Thank you ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:20, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
:The table containing all your usertags should be placed '''above''' the first section. I.e. just swap the placement of your sections around.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:58, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Can you see if have done it correctly, unfortunately I have wasted my edits and unable to delete the excess points and thank you, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 05:30, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
:It's fine.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:03, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
: Thanks a lot, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 09:42, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

== Dynamax ==

Isn't Pikachu Dynamaxing without going into it's pokéball, important? If it is too specific,it is notable right? I also have an intuition, that it has something to do with Eternatus. Moreover, it is supposed to go into the trivia. Thank you, ForceFire [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:12, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
:No, it isn't notable. It doesn't matter whether Pikachu returned to his Poke Ball or not.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:31, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks again, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:54, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

== Magearna ==

Pokémon HOME reveals that Shiny Magearna doesn't have any paint on it, like the Magearna from the Sun & Moon series. Should it be considered a Shiny Magearna in the light of this new information? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:44, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
:I would think so, if it's the most recent design of the Shiny form.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:40, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
::It is. [https://66.media.tumblr.com/4870664d714ac276fbb98e9a9d72afb8/eec1975ebfa88305-2d/s540x810/0258c33075f759d2fd334cceb64a1dd429db6f86.png Here] is an image I found of the Shiny Magearna Sprite from HOME, while [[:File:Mohn Magearna.png|here]] in an image of the S&M series Magearna. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:25, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Based on those images, do I have your permission to classify Magearna as a Shiny in the anime? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:37, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
::::I'd say it's fine to classify it as a Shiny form of Magearna.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:21, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:58, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

== Ash's Dynamax Band ==

Ash doesn't seem to wear the Dynamax band, continuously like the Z-Ring in the new series. Is it to be noted in the major events of SS014. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:00, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
:No. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:19, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
:Ash not wearing his Z-Ring anymore wasn't a major event. And it's likely he'll just wear it when he's in Galar and can actually use it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:20, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
I wasn't asking about the Z-Ring. I just wanted to ask about the Dynamax Band, whether not wearing it continuously must be noted, if not in major events atleast in trivia! Hope you understand. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 16:13, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
:I used Z-Ring as a comparison. And him not continuously wearing it is definitely not major event worthy. Not sure about trivia worthiness either, but we'll see. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:16, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, FinnishPokéFan [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:46, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
:Sorry about that edit, ForceFire. I added it because FinnishPokéFan92 was not sure about trivia worthiness,also I didn't do it on purpose. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:02, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

== Help me ==

I am getting a blank of space in my userpage. How can remove it? If you want a clear picture of my query,see my userpage. Thank you, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 17:28, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
:It's because the Ash's Pokemon template is stretching the page due to it's size.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 01:35, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
:: It was there before adding the template. How to clear it? I see there is no space in your page,eve though you usertags. Thank you,ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:42, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
:::There's always going to be whitespace on your userpage because their are things stretching the page, the template or the usertags prior to you adding the template. If you want to get rid of the whitespace, you can use the "expandable" tags to hide the templates or usertages so there's less whitespace.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:15, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you so much, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:45, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

== Deleting sandbox article ==

Hey! It's been a while. I created [[User:GrammarFreak01/Pikachu in a cap|a sandbox article]] for the [[Pikachu in a cap]] article, but it seems someone's already beat me to the punch. Mind deleting it for me, please? Thanks! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:12, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:57, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you. :) [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 11:24, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

== Minor disagreement ==

In SS013, Ash loses a battle for the first time in 54 episodes, a rarely and possibly even never before seen long streak for him. I think this should be noted in the episode's trivia section, but GrammarFreak01 disagrees, saying it's not notable. What's your opinion? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:27, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
:You should've made it clear that 54 episodes was the longest period of time Ash has gone without a loss in the anime, because I did not know this. I'll restore the edit with the necessary addendum. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:37, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
::I did not say that because I wasn't sure. I only figured it was notably long. And I may have just discovered an even longer lossless period for him from the XY series (from XY036 to XY106). --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:47, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

== RedneckAnimeGeek ==

{{user|RedneckAnimeGeek}} has made excessively many edits on Hop and Leon's pages. I tried to notify them on their talk page to use the preview button and lessen the amount of their edits, but their actions did not change. Could you help? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:46, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

== GaOlé ==

https://postimg.cc/gallery/ikii6jsa/
Hello, can these images be placed on Archives and consequently placed on the pages of the respective characters?They are from the Ga Olé game with the theme of the new anime series.[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 12:15, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

== Reinhartmax's categories ==

{{user|Reinhartmax}} has just created categories for Trainers with giant, Fossil, and baby Pokémon. I personally can see the notability in the first one and maybe in the second one, but not really in the last one. What's your opinion? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 22:11, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
:I don't think all three are notable. I've brought it up to the staff, and gave Reinhartmax a message to cease making more categories.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:32, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you. I won't mind if all three of them were removed, so no objections there. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:38, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Has the staff made a decision yet? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:51, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::::Not yet. It got put off to the side for other things.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::Is this subject still waiting to be solved? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:27, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
::::::Can those categories be removed? Has a decision been reached yet? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:08, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Hello? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:05, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
::::::::Discussions regarding this has kinda stalled. Though I think it's rather clear that they aren't needed. I'll be deleting them in a bit.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:37, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:25, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

== Process for reporting an admin ==

Hey! Is there a formal process to report an admin for shirking their duties? [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Ataro#Iris_edit I've been trying] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Ataro#Iris_edit.2C_continued for months] to talk with {{U|Ataro}} about an editing style that I strongly disagree with, which led to what I believe to be an unnecessary three-day block on my end. Ataro [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3032795&oldid=3031944 responded], and this was [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3032886&oldid=3032814 my response]. For months, I haven't received another response from them. I am led to believe Ataro is ignoring me on purpose because [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3068489&oldid=3068474 they] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3068499&oldid=3068496 have] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3107287&oldid=3107274 responded] to other talk page messages, but not mine. They have also been active many times since that initial response, so it would've been absolutely difficult for them not to see all the talk page notifications that were sent by my many attempts to contact them.

I find it hard to believe they were unaware of all of that. If there was supposed to be another, more appropriate way to reach them, then my apologies; I didn't know. But nevertheless, I find it absolutely disgusting that this admin would engage in such selective behavior. Trying to contact them even before they initially responded was an extremely tedious debacle, and by this point, I am absolutely done with their conduct. I'd like to see if there's a formal procedure to address this. Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 11:05, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
:If you have a concern about a staff member ignoring you, you can bring it up to either the Editor in Chief (Kogoro) or the Deputy Editor in Chief (Pokemaster97).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:17, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you. :) [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:48, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

== Explain. ==

Hello, why is it that you removed my Shadow Lugia base stats from the Shadow Lugia page? Those were the real base stats so they had no reason to be changed. Email me at JonahLeeWalker.123@gmail.com with your reply. {{unsigned|Gamer PROJonah}}
:It was improperly formatted. See how the base stats on other articles are done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:22, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

== Vandal alert ==

It looks like {{user|Justin Bibarel}} is going to be nothing but a vandal. Take care of it? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:34, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

:Never mind, {{U|SnorlaxMonster}} took care of it. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:41, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

== SS017 ==

Is the title of SS017 is "Something happens to Hibanny". I saw the news about this in Twitter. So, I want you confirm the truthness of this fact. Because I can't edit unless I have proof about it,right! [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 09:04, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
:Hi,ForceFire please answer my question! Thank you. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 04:17, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::Where did you get the title from?--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:03, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::: I'm not completely sure about the title. I saw it in #anipoke in twitter. Hence, I asked you if you're aware of it. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 08:24, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::::A simple Twitter hashtag is not a reliable source. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:30, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::::: I'm not trying to prove my fact,I was just confirming it here. Also,it is the official hashtag of the Pokémon anime. The tweets may not be reliable, I accept. Hope you understand my point of view GrammarFreak01. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:24, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::: Don't worry about it,since we got the title. Thank you ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 03:50, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

== Gary's Journey ==

Hi, please, I wanted to understand why the change was reversed with Gary's page. Why no other human character has the separation between Kanto / Johto / Hoenn or anything like that anymore. The marking says "Orange Islands", but Gary was never said to have been on the islands. And the page is about Gary's point of view, isn't it? What's the point of keeping that with Gary only?Shouldn't that be standard for everyone?[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 15:17, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
:Could've sworn we also split the history sections of human characters too, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I've reverted myself.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:34, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

== List of references to Pokémon in popular culture edit ==
Hello there. May I ask as to why you have deleted my writing on [[Difference between revisions of "List of references to Pokémon in popular culture"|this page]]? If you would have given me some more time, I would have fixed up my own work, rather than someone else deleting it. Could you please explain as to why you have deleted this specific section? I recognise that some of my information is incorrect, and I would have fixed it up myself. If there is an alternate section where you want me to put it under, I will be more than happy to do this change. Thank you for taking the time to read this, and I hope you recosider your reversion. [[User:BlueDecoRoller|BlueDecoRoller]] ([[User talk:BlueDecoRoller|talk]]) 01:31, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
:As I said in my edit summary, passing mentions are not notable. It has to be more than just a namedrop.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:03, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::As an alternative, could I add my information [[List of background references to Pokémon|here instead]]? I could create a new section for Books, comics and Manga, and put it in there, along with a stub. What do you think? If you approve, I should have it done by 06:00 03/05/20 (UTC). Hopefully. [[User:BlueDecoRoller|BlueDecoRoller]] ([[User talk:BlueDecoRoller|talk]]) 21:51, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
:::It's fine there.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
::::All fixed. Thank you for clarifying as to where I should put it.[[User:BlueDecoRoller|BlueDecoRoller]] ([[User talk:BlueDecoRoller|talk]]) 06:34, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

== Focus on Ash ==

Isn't [[JN013|SS013]] an episode focusing on Ash. I don't know how to add it in the Category: Episodes focusing on Ash. If it is an episode focusing on Ash,could you add it in the category for me, ForceFire! [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 08:26, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
:Not really.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
:: Thank you, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:00, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

== Appearance info for Series-exclusive Recurring Characters: ==

Hello,

I wish to clarify whether all appearances for recurring characters in a particular series should be documented. This comes in the wake of GrammarFreak01 restoring deletions made to [[Abe]], [[Sarah and Harper]] and [[Anela]]'s pages of otherwise unimportant or minor appearances, plus Poké Problem scenes which have little to do with the respective episode plots. As such I'd prefer for these changes to be reverted to make for a succinct article. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:15, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

:I disagree with making articles such as those succinct. It needs material to fill it up, otherwise it'll be painfully short. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:16, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
::Only major appearances should be noted, if they didn't do much and was simply a background character, then it's not notable. And the Poke Problem segments are clearly not notable at all. It doesn't matter if it's too short, Reggie has appeared quite a few times and his article isn't that long. Quality over quantity.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:22, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
:::Thank you for the clarification. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 12:48, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
::::So would this have to apply to ''every'' recurring character article, including those who only had major roles in just two episodes like [[Savannah]] and [[Sandra]]? If not, what's exactly the limit? Which recurring character articles have to be succinct and which ones don't have to be? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:13, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::If they contributed to the plot of the episode, then it's notable. And it counts for every recurring character, it doesn't matter of one page is longer than the other. That's simply not a problem.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:38, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
::::::GrammarFreak01, the examples you gave were deliberate cameos, which are different from background appearances of the examples I explained. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:42, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Allow me to rephrase, then: is the mention of cameos and flashbacks notable for all recurring characters' histories, or not? That's among the material that's being contested in [[Abe]] and [[Sarah and Harper]]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:46, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
::::::::If they are important cameos or flashbacks.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:50, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::How so? Examples? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:52, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::If they are important to the plot of the episode, then it's notable. If they didn't do anything at all, then it's not notable..--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:57, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::::Okay, gotcha. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:00, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

== The trivia ==

The music from the trailer of the new series was used in [[JN014|SS014]],when the egg containing the Golurk emerged from the underground of the ruins. Could it be treated as part of trivia of SS014, as we treated the use of Gym battle theme from SwSh. If it is a part of trivia, can you add it in the trivia of SS014 for me,as I don't really know how to frame it properly for the trivia. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:09, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
:It's not a notable piece of music, so it's not notable.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:40, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

== User YayBoy7 vandalizing the site. ==

I think you should have access to the last changes, the user in question started to vandalize the pages of some users and places and characters with bad words. I tried to modify what I could, but I couldn't prevent other changes and as I don't know if it is possible to report here, it probably must have happened without me seeing it. 01:43 [[Hikaru Wazana]] 05 March 2020

== Request ==

I appreciate you protecting SS017's page for the time being. But could I request you'll remove the last edit that was there before the protection took place? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:58, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
:Eh, if it wasn't hidden, then I'd remove it. But since it's hidden, so it's doing no harm. It can be removed/corrected once the protection expires.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:55, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

== Lugia (Pocket monsters) ==

In [[JN020|SS020]],the Lugia from the second episode of the series is going to appear. Can we categorize this Lugia as a recurring character in the anime? [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:32, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
:I also wanted to ask you one more question,i.e How do I join in Project anime? [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:44, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
::Once the episode airs. "Joining" projects is an out of use thing, everyone is editing under a certain project, regardless of them "joining" it. Though you can still add the "User is a part of Project..." usertags to your userpage if you like.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:07, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
::: I get the idea about it now. You mean that the edits under the anime pages are part of Project anime. Thanks a lot, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 17:25, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

== Item Sprites ==

Hey, I've made a suggestion here [[Template talk:Bag2]]. What do you think about it?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 22:25, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

==User edit-warring on an article==
I've got {{user|Kirigayaray}} [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world&type=revision&diff=3129878&oldid=3129829 continuously reverting my own reversions] of the [[Pokémon world in relation to the real world]] article. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world&type=revision&diff=3129839&oldid=3129835 I've talked with them] about going to the talk page to discuss the contested edits, but [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world&type=revision&diff=3129878&oldid=3129839 they still made a reversion]. Would you mind intervening, please? Thank you! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:13, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:The entire article is speculation, so it's fine for them to change it within reason. If you feel that their edits are wrong, then go to their talk page or the talk page of the article. Would also help if you had knowledge on what those areas the location is supposedly based on. That way, your reversion might hold water.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:48, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

== Recurring character categories ==

Hey! Since I noticed there's an entire set of categories for [[Character of the day|characters of the day]], I was wondering if we could create the same for recurring characters in the anime. I feel like they could use some further categorization and distinction. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:54, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:The main anime characters category covers those fairly well, in my opinion.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:52, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
::But it's already so hard to look for some of them, like [[Savannah]]. I think we need such categories. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:12, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

== Deleted ==

Why did you delete [[:Category:Pages with ignored display titles]], even though I think it is needed? --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''TheI''']][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|'''CTLi''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''ker4''']] 11:27, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:No... it's not needed.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:52, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

== Feedback ==

Hi, I'm putting together a custom template for the characters that will be in the world competition. Some details are still needed, but I would like to know the opinion of the site staff. Is there any chance of being approved? Is it worth it to keep doing this?My inspiration is something that I saw on sports websites. I thought it might be interesting given the importance of the event.
Here is an example:
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This marks the position that Trainer _____ took in the world ranking:

{| class="roundy" style="margin: auto; text-align: center; background: #{{water color}}; border: 3px solid #{{water color dark}}" cellpadding=5px
|-style="background: #{{water color light}}"
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" |[[File:Pokémon World Championships logo.png|75px]] Pokémon World Championish
! [[File:Bag Poké Ball Sprite.png‎]] Normal Class
! [[File:Bag Great Ball Sprite.png]] Super Class
! [[File:Bag Ultra Ball Sprite.png]] Hyper Class
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | [[File:Bag Master Ball Sprite.png]] Master Class
|- style="background: #FFF"
| Ranking position
| {{color2|000|JN018|Not Avaliable}}
| {{color2|000|JN018|Top 999}}
| {{color2|000|JN018|Top 99}}
| {{color2|000|JN012|Top 8}}
|- style="background: #FFF"
|-
| class="roundybottom" style="background: #{{water color light}}" colspan="5" |
|}

What do you think?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 16:17, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
:Initially thought this was for the TCG worlds tournament thing, so there was a bit of confusion on my end. I've asked and the judgement was that it's a bit too early for such a template, when we know very little of it and its competitors. Maybe once that gets revealed it could be used.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:14, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

== Let's Go plot description ==

I personally think the plot description {{user|Kahchun}} wrote for Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee today isn't up to code. Do you agree? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:21, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

== Articles for the Mainspace ==

Hello. I'd hoped for a response from Abcboy or G50, in regards to some of these pages which are ready to be mainspaced, hopefully you can help.

*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Legend Festival]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Pokéstar Studios Film Competition]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Subway Bosses's Stamp Rally]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/The Marina Group]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Pershie/The Protectors]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Bloom Canyon]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Flower Garden Troupe]] - I've structured it like other organization pages like the [[Pokémon Lover's Club]] and [[B-Button League]] as its HQ was shown in the anime
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Pokémon Training Center]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Unnamed Island (EP060)]] - We have other unnamed island pages like the ones featured during the Orange and Decolore sagas
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Big Town Pokémon]] - This one needs further discussion as these are the recurring Pokémon that aren't part of the Pichu Posse, as to whether this should be a separate page or rather the Pichu Posse page gets reconfigured to account for this.
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Pershie]]

Regards [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 08:55, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
:*Legend festival should be fine.
:*The PokeStar competition article should detail its competitors like the other competition articles.
:*Same as above.
:*Marina group should be fine.
:*(not sure why it's a subpage of Pershie) Protectors is fine, though is looking bare without a navigation template.
:*Bloom Canyon could do with a bit more, but if nothing else major happens there, then I guess it'd do.
:*Flower Garden Troupe is fine.
:*Pokemon Training Center is fine.
:*Unnamed Island is fine, again navigation template would help it look nicer.
:*Big Town Pokemon needs further discussion about splitting it off from Pichu Brothers.
:*Pershie didn't do much, and didn't really have an impact in any of the episodes it was in. Not notable.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:14, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
::Just confirming, Bloom Canyon had a brief appearance in the episode.
::Anyway, I've made those suggested changes, the pages are now ready for the mainspace. Thanks for the reply. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:45, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
:::Hi. I've noticed only two pages have been mainspaced so far. When will the other approved pages be uploaded to the mainspace? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:40, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
::::Apologies for that, all the approved articles have been moved.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:08, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::Much appreciated, thanks. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 10:25, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

== Professor Burnet ==

{| max-width="80%" style="margin:auto; background: transparent; {{roundy|10px}} border: 0px solid #C4E673; padding:2px;"
|-
| colspan="2" width="100%" style="background: #E0F2B6; {{roundy|10px 10px {{#switch:{{{2|author}}}|author=10px|0px}} 10px}} border: 2px solid #a1c747; padding-top:5px; padding-bottom:10px; padding-left:5px; padding-right:5px;" | '''“''' Her name is Burnet, which comes from the Japanese name. Profesor is her title/occupation, not part of her name, so it's not counted. '''”'''
|-
|
|}
Thank you for this explanation while you “rollbacked” these edits, this will be useful in my future contributions. --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''TheI''']][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|'''CTLi''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''ker4''']] 18:44, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

== Mythical pokémon pics ==

Hi! I'd like to know the ratio over using promotional images of past mythical pokémon in the [[Mythical Pokémon|general page]] while the latest ones have to use the Sugimori artwork. I edited it because I thought it looked better and more cohesive. Thank you! --[[User:Crikko|'''★''''''Cri''''''ққ''''''ѳ~''''''*''']] 16:58, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

== Gen 8 Sprites ==

Hi do you think we should start on the gen 8 sprites now and use the front sprites such as Grookey's front sprite

[[File:Spr 8s 810.png|300px]]

and upload the backsprites later? I apologize about my wording and English BTW ([[User:Mr.GodzillaMan|Mr.GodzillaMan]] ([[User talk:Mr.GodzillaMan|talk]]) 16:27, 17 March 2020 (UTC))

== New vandal alert ==

Hey! We've got {{user|Yeety}} being a vandal here. Take care of it, please? Thank you! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:27, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

:Now this person's directly harassing me on my talk page and spreading lies about me on other users' talk pages. I need assistance! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:47, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

::Never mind, {{U|Abcboy}} took care of it. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:52, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

== Rillaboom's Drumsticks ==

I know that Rillaboom carries its drum on its back, but where does it keep its drumsticks? The leaf-like fur near its hands (like how Delphox keeps its branch in the fur on its arm)? [[User:Macpika|Macpika]] ([[User talk:Macpika|talk]]) 17:38, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

== Totodile’s Tackle ==

Excuse me, I already know which episode Ash's Totodile used Tackle, and Duplica's Mini-Dit did the same, but why did it get reverted? Dub edits or something?--[[User:CoolPokeGuy|CoolPokéGuy]] ([[User talk:CoolPokeGuy|Talk]]) 19:03, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
:Was it stated or are you just guessing? I don't particularly remember the episode.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:08, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
:It was stated. I’ve seen that episode for a very long time.--[[User:CoolPokeGuy|CoolPokéGuy]] ([[User talk:CoolPokeGuy|Talk]]) 07:13, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

== Relicanth ==

You can't just delete a fan theory from a paragraph designated to fan speculation. And why isn't Relicanth a map?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 16:34, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
:Do not edit war. Wait for a response. No response does not mean you can just add it back. Have patience.
:I already said why on Relicanth's talk page. It's an opinion. Relicanth's body design looks nothing like the map of Hoenn. And it's a very large stretch to say that its design is why it's needed to unlock the Regis when the far simpler and probable reason is because it's a living fossil Pokemon.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 17:02, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
::I'm not saying it's a map of Hoenn, but it surely is a map. Being brown (like old maps), having unexpleined by any other mean red spot, being unchanged for centuries and always placed sideway instead of heading the player in game sprites, all these things together suggest that. And as a theory of Hoenn map, even if you can't see it, it has no reason to not be added under speculations.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 20:50, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
:::It would make more sense if it looked like the map of Hoenn, otherwise, it's just a random design. Again, all of those are a stretch when the more simpler and probable reason is because it's an ancient Pokemon. It still needs to be reasonable speculation, and the whole map thing just isn't.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 01:39, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

== Bulbapedia Rework ==

Hello, Force Fire.
My name is Xeraphyy. Last month, a tweet was made announcing that Bulbapedia was going through some site upgrades. The link to the tweet is below.

https://twitter.com/Bulbapedia/status/1228458215324545024

I was wondering if the site upgrades are still continuing. Do you know of the status of the rework? Please get back to me when you can. [[User:Xeraphyy|Xeraphyy]] ([[User talk:Xeraphyy|talk]]) 18:34, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

== Raichu's gender ==

May I ask why the gender of Visquez's Raichu can't be confirmed? It's a Raichu that was first seen after gender differences were implemented, we've seen Pikachu's gender differences before, and her Raichu's tail clearly was that of a male Raichu. I personally fail to see the reason to not consider its gender confirmed based on its tail. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 21:58, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
:That's Pikachu's gender difference. Not Raichu's gender difference. Just because one gender difference has been acknowledged, does not mean the others exist. They still need to be acknowledged by the animators. They could easily acknowledge one difference but not the other, because they can just be like that sometimes.
:A female Raichu has appeared in the anime, but it was drawn with a male tail (Tierno's). So we still can't use gender differences, until the female variant Raichu appears in the anime. Other than that, it needs to be explicitly stated or hit with attract/cute charm. But you know that already.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 01:39, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
::Oh, right. I had completely forgotten about Tierno's Raichu. Sorry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:31, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
:::How is Tierno's Raichu a cetain case? I've ask about this [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Tierno_(anime) here].--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 11:36, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

==Hikaru Wazana==
Me and FinnishPokéfan92 have been having some trouble with Hikaru Wazana, mainly on the Archive section with him uploading images that aren't the right size or quality, adding more work for us and other users. I've spoken to Chosen and Abcboy about this but haven't had any response. Was wondering if you could look into it? I'm bringing this up now as he's starting making more work on this side of Bulbapedia, notably the [[Elite Four‎‎]] and [[Casey's Meganium]] pages.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 22:38, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
::I didn’t upload anything to Casey’s Meganium page, the only thing I did was expand the page, which YEARS passed without anyone putting anything relevant about her role. The other uploads I made with images with the best quality I got, unfortunately I can't change them with the standard quality. If the images of the E4 you are talking about are those of the Pokemon Puzzle League, unfortunately I couldn't get any better, so I wondered if it was better to add content or not. I chose to add the content.

What should I do? There is a page that, as notable as it is, no one takes the trouble to update. It seems that people care more about putting Trivia than really supporting the site. The other day I sent you the screencaptures of a hosted site, but doing that for all the ones I get is an extra job. I don't want to give extra work to the people who collaborate here,[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]10:15, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
:I don't pay too much attention to the archives side of things, so any issues should be brought up with someone that spends more time over there. As for Hikaru's edits here, they're fine. If they feel like a page can be expanded, they are free to expand it to the best of their abilities.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:05, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

== Gender ==

So why exactly you reverted back the table for Pokemon that evolve depending on gender? It wasn't big edit, not even mine.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 17:02, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
:Because it wasn't necessary. Not every page have to have the same template design. You also made a large scale edit without consulting others on the talk page, like you usually do. If you want to suggest a drastic change, always propose it on the talk page first. Don't just do as you please.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:00, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
::I'm too convinced that Bulbapedia's style should be precise and consistent as it is on most of pages already. Do you have any reason for this page to not be like the others? Because there is one reason for and zero against. Also, I do many bigger changes by myself because my questions and suggestions are rarely answered and when they do there is almost no reason presented. For example you still haven't answered my question about Tierno's Raichu.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 16:31, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
:::Don't just go ahead with making largescale edits just because no one responds, that does not give you the privilege to just make the edit anyway. Wait for a response. The evolution chain is not the point of that section of the article, so there is not needs for a template that showcases an entire evolutionary line. The article is about gender, so it shows the different gender specific Pokemon. Evolutionary line has nothing to do with the article. And Tierno's Raichu is confirmed female because the original version stated that Attract failed on Blastoise because Blastoise was male.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:55, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
::::If there is no point in showing whole evolutionary line, then why don't you simplify it in the same way on other pages? And if Tierno's Raichu is confirmed female then why don't you mention that on page of Visquez's Raichu that it is the reason for not giving him gender. It's really annoying how you're making decisions you're not fully abide to.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 15:16, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::Just leave it. It's fine the way it is and gets the point across just as well. The point is to show the evolution method and the gender specific forms, since the section is titled "gender based evolution", and using the artwork shows the differences much more clearly than a minisprite. That and your template makes it inconsistent in design with the template right below it.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:17, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::And as I said, they don't all have to have the same template design. Some pages can have unique templates designs depending on the article. There is no inconsistency issue.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:21, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

== Urshifu ==
Honestly just a small issue I spotted regarding Urshifu's page, where the Tower of Darkness and Tower of Waters are referred to as the Temple of Darkness and Temple of Waters in the evolution box. It's a minor error, but it bothered me, so I made an account specifically to try to fix it, but of course it was protected, which I didn't realize was a thing because I didn't ever consider it. Anyway, just something I felt obligated to point out for the sake of accuracy. Thanks for your time reading this. --[[User:ArcaneCrystal|ArcaneCrystal]] ([[User talk:ArcaneCrystal|talk]]) 07:30, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
:Fixed.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:00, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

== List Grammar ==

On the Normal (type) page, you reverted my edit to the sentence, "Their inability to hit Ghost-type Pokémon can be nullified by using Foresight, Odor Sleuth, or by Pokémon with the Ability Scrappy." That's a list of two nouns (''Foresight'' and ''Odor Sleuth'') and a prepositional phrase ("by Pokémon with the Ability Scrappy"), which just doesn't work, or a list of two prepositional phrases ("by using Foresight" and "by Pokémon with the Ability Scrappy") and a noun (''Odor Sleuth''), which also just doesn't work. (At least, it doesn't work in American English; I don't know about other major dialects.)
[[User:Matthias von Schwarzwald|Matthias von Schwarzwald]] ([[User talk:Matthias von Schwarzwald|talk]]) 16:41, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

== "In the movies"? ==

Dear ForceFire,

I noticed several of the anime characters that have been featured in the Pokémon movies have sections titled "In the movies", while most are "In the anime". Is there a reason for this, or should it all be standardized to one format?[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:28, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
:If they've featured in both the main series and the movie series, then it should have two subsections for anime and movies (order goes by whichever they first appeared in). Movie exclusive characters get a history section.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

== Pokémon seen sections for anime locations ==

Dear ForceFire,

I would also like to clarify what Pokémon are typically included in the Pokémon seen sections of the location pages. While I think we can do away with these sections entirely due to differences in formatting and non-specific images as some appearance have only occurred in a group. I've noticed that some Trainer owned Pokémon are included in these segments, especially locations that hosted Contests, should it only be wild Pokémon and Pokémon known to actually reside in the area with their Trainer? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:34, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
:I think the section is necessary to showcase what Pokemon reside in the area. Multiple images of the same thing for individual Pokemon isn't a problem. It should ideally just be for wild Pokemon. I don't think a trainer's Pokemon being at a location counts, since it technically doesn't reside there (not sure why a contest location would have a section for that).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

== [[Tracey's Scyther]] ==

The Grammarfreak user insists on putting a "Johto" section for Tracey's Scyther. Since Tracey didn't have a "Johto Journey", does that make any sense?I mean, the Johto and Kanto level is not separated with Kanto arc and Johto arc unless the respective Pokémon has a journey in such a place (Gary's Eevee, Gary Arcanine they are like that as far as I'm concerned, right?).

Doesn't the page just list the point of view of that respective character?Even if you allow me, I think the division should be just in the anime saga (something like Original Series, Advance, Diamond and so on). As is done even in the manga section. In this case of Tracey, what is the point in creating a section to detail a journey it did not take?I don't know I managed to put my point of view correctly, I apologize if you may have been a little confused.[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]10:30, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
:The history is only separated by region if they have appeared in that region, yes. Though, in the case of Scyther, it did appear after the Orange Island arc but in Kanto and not Johto. I think renaming the section "Kanto", "Other", or "post Orange Islands" would be more appropriate.
:The region specific separation should only be for Pokemon that appeared in two different regions in an arc (so Hoenn and Kanto for AG, Kanto, Orange, and Johto for OS, so on so forth). If the Pokemon has done something notable or important in a region, then it should be noted.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:05, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

== New titles of new series ==

SS021 - Hit Your Mark, Wave Guidance! Satoshi and the Mysterious Egg!!(12/4)

SS022 - Farewell, Rabbifoot!(19/4)

SS023 - Massive Panic! Sakuragi Park!!
(26/4)

These are the new titles. Could you confirm and them in the list of new series episodes. {{unsigned|Dhiwakar}}

Don't worry about it, ForceFire. It's already added. Thank you. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:25, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

== Suggestion ==

I was wondering that should the Battle Frontier facility info templates be edited to include the possibility of a battlefield section, like with Gym info templates, and the game image of the facility in the template be replaced with the anime image, if possible. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:22, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
:While I wouldn't be against it (I only really checked the Battle Pyramid article, and an anime image would be a better alternative), tryask for second opinions.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:10, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
::Blazingfist has [[User talk:Blazingfist#Suggestion|also agreed to the idea]]. Should I ask some more users, or is this fine? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:30, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
:::If you'd like, you can make a mockup in your userspace and I can get the Editorial board to check it.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
::::I created a mockup [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Template:Facility Infobox|here]]. I mainly just added another image section to the bottom of the template. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:10, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::I've brought it up with the editorial board, waiting approval.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

== Does not explain name origin? ==

howdy, Force Fire. i'm just here to ask you, why have you removed my edit on Hawlucha's page? i was thinking it'd be possible that a Matador (Bullfighter) puts the "bull" in Luchabull. which is why i added it in the name origin. was there something wrong with it? ----[[User:inukoinu.k9|i n u k o i n u]] ''([[User talk:inukoinu.k9|talk]])'' 19:37, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
:It did not explain how the word "matador" itself is incorporated into the name. The relevance to bulls is already mentioned with just "bull" before it.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:10, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
::oh, i really wanted to add how i thought it meant but i guess not. i'm still just a bit new at this so, sorry. heh. ----[[User:inukoinu.k9|i n u k o i n u]] ''([[User talk:inukoinu.k9|talk]])'' 13:40, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

== Ash Ketchum page split suggestion ==

Hi Force Fire, I've started [[Talk:Ash_Ketchum#Article_split_suggestion|a proposal on Ash Ketchum's talk page]] about splitting it into different pages and I would like to hear from you as Senior Administrator! Thanks!--[[User:Crikko|'''★''''''Cri''''''ққ''''''ѳ~''''''*''']] 15:08, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

==Cynthia (anime)==
I was wondering if it might be worth giving Cynthia her own anime page or start work on one at least.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:54, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
:Sorry to use another user's conversation, but as the subject is the same ... Well, I started creating a [[User:Hikaru_Wazana/Korrina_(anime)|page for Korrina]]. I wanted your opinion, should I continue with it? I think that here I could start making more exclusive pages for the counterparts of some characters, mainly to relieve the space of some "official" pages of some. Because here there are a lot of pages I could gain from this, as the tidy could be more detailed and the main page would stay with only the basics.
:I think the site has a problem that many people prefer to fill the pages of Trivias, but do not put relevant content on the same page. This happens very often on trainer's Pokémon pages ([[Maylene's Lucario]] for example). But even relevant characters went through this, the page of the matriarch of Village of Dragons was almost a summary and did not even have all the character's participation. Bulbapedia could create a stricter rule for placing Trivias on the pages. I mean, it's just a suggestion.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 23:19, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
::I agree that some more Gym Leaders might necessitate sub-articles for their anime counterparts and so on and so forth, not just those who accompanied Ash on his journey. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:24, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
:::I think both Cynthia and Korrina are notable for their own article, though I suggest adding something to the "pre-series" section of her page before moving first.
:::As for anime articles for game characters, only if they've played an important role and appeared in more than a few episodes, obviously Surge, Roxanne, and Clay aren't notable for anime articles. If you have any suggestions, you can always start one up in your userpage and the staff will take a look.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
::::Went to mainspace Cynthia, but got this message. You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reason:
::::A page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 15:41, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
::I did the pre-series section and put content from episodes that were not included in the main article, as you suggested, Force Fire. If someone wants to coordinate efforts and make pages for characters notable enough for the page, I volunteer. I'm already making some Pokés for some characters.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 21:04, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
::I have moved both Cynthia and Korrina to the mainspace, though cynthia could do with an introductory paragraph, like the other anime character articles...--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
::::What are the rules for a character to get his own page? I mean, there is one, right?I know some people made a page for Hau, I have one in progress for Steve Stone. I believe that Clair has what is necessary, but it would be good to have an official opinion so that we don't have to make a lot of pages that we don't need. What rules do they use in the manga section? Would Morty, Norman, Roark, Gardenia or Brandon be notable?Sorry about the lot of questions. LOL.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 15:04, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::There isn't a hard notability rule for anime characters as there is for anime Pokemon, though some of the rules there would probably apply. Basically they must appear from more than a few episodes, play an important role in the series, and do more than just battle the main characters. Norman and Brandon could be notable, but not the others you mentioned.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:51, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
::::::Created a [[User:BigDocFan/Brandon (anime)|page]] for Brandon, was wondering if you could have a look.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 08:43, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Both Steven Stone and Brandon are fine to be mainspaced, both played a major role in their series.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:53, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
::::::::I personally disagree. We don't need to create such an excessive amount of separate pages. Cynthia and Korrina I can understand, but Steven and Brandon I disagree with. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:08, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::Both have played major parts in an arc they appeared in (Regigas arc for Brandon, Mega Evolution arc for Steven), and have done more that just battle. While I do go on and on over quality over quantity, the quality of those pages are fine.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:43, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
I added information to Brandon's page, I hope everything is right. Despite that, from now on I will only suggest the page when it is ready, Brandon's page was still far from ready(We still need to find a better image to put in the infobox). The one I'm doing for Steven I'll be letting you know when it's ready to head to the main space.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 22:04, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
:::https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Hikaru_Wazana/Clair_(anime)
Hi, I did the first drafts on this page, do you think it is good enough to go to the main space?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 20:09, 05 May 2020 (UTC)
:I've brought up that page with the other staff members, as I wasn't sure if Clair had done enough outside of battling to warrant a separate page, and they deemed Clair not notable for an anime specific article.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:55, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

== Undoing ==

I tried to undo an edit on my talkpage but the abuse filter wouldn't let me. --[[User:CaliforniaPokemonGirl623|CaliforniaPokemonGirl623]] ([[User talk:CaliforniaPokemonGirl623|talk]]) 03:30, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
:That usually happens when new users attempt to remove large amounts of information. I've removed the template from your talk page. Again, your talk should not be used as a userpage. The only thing that should be on your talk page, aside form the welcome template, are comments and discussions.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
::Hi [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] How many edits (specific number) are needed to get autoconfirmed? --[[User:CaliforniaPokemonGirl623|CaliforniaPokemonGirl623]] ([[User talk:CaliforniaPokemonGirl623|talk]]) 15:38, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
:::The number is kept secret, even I don't know what the number is. It's kept secret so users don't just make the reuired amount of edits and abandon the mainspace for the userpace.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:51, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

== Blast Burn, etc. ==

Hey, if I recall I don't think I repeatedly edited the pages for Blast Burn and similar moves to state that they were the Kanto starters' signature moves - I think I only edited each of them once (or possibly twice to correct mistakes). But in any case, before XD was released, the Kanto starters ''were'' the only Pokémon that could learn those moves, similar to Greninja with {{m|Water Shuriken}} before ORAS. They're even listed on the [[signature move]] page as such. Therefore, if they don't qualify as signature moves, then Water Shuriken shouldn't either. --[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 03:40, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
:I checked the history section of Blast Burn and you added it a few years back, which subsequently got reverted. Yes, the Kanto starters were the only one that can learn it, but it didn't ''keep'' it as a signature move for a generation, which is what (one of) the criteria is. I've removed the Greninja line on Water Shuriken.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

== Dinosaurtime.YT ==

Hey! It's clear {{user|Dinosaurtime.YT}} is going to continue edit-warring on articles rather than use the talk page. Do something about it? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:08, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
:It's just a matter of explaining to him how things work and that he can help in other sections, there are loads of pages that need help.There is no point in creating a problem with this, or to reach the moderator's page with that tone of words.[[User:Hikaru Wazana |Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 00:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
::It wouldn't be a problem if the user hadn't immediately gone to the talk page when their edits were contested. Repeated reversions is automatically punished with a block, whether anyone likes it or not. I would know. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:33, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
:::I've given them a message.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:51, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
::::Okay, thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:19, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Dinosaurtime.YT - Can i say something? I am not Edit-warring. It am just correcting information that is wrong. Many people seem to think that 1-57 is 52 episodes when it is not, it is 57 episodes. I am merely correcting people who are mistaken and wrong.{{unsigned|Dinosaurtime.YT}}
:You are clearly counting the episodes that never aired in the US. Because while EP001 to EP057 are season one, only 52 of them actually aired in the US (EP018, EP035, EP038, EP052, and EP053 were either banned or aired later).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:51, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
Oh, ok then, i din't know. I just thought it was a typo that had become believed. I made an extra point in the seasons page to correct it and let people know, just in case they didn't know and i apologise for the inconvenience and misconception. {user:Dinosaurtime.YT} {{unsigned|Dinosaurtime.YT}}
:That's not what the dot points are for. The dot points are listing the different definitions of a season. The stuff about irregularities in count can go elsewhere.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:12, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
:Where should it go then? In the first section of the page?--[[User:Dinosaurtime.YT|Dinosaurtime.YT]] ([[User talk:Dinosaurtime.YT|talk]]) 13:19, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

== Mainspacing suggestion ==

I have a page about [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Miette's Slurpuff|Miette's Slurpuff]] that's been waiting for a mainspacing decision for years now. Do you think it's notable and complete enough to be mainspaced? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:59, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

:I feel like Miette's Slurpuff hasn't done much outside of performing in Showcases, if I remember correctly. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:51, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
::Miette's Slurpuff isn't notable. It didn't do anything major, apart from its debut episode, and every appearance afterwards was just battling/performances.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:51, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
:::...Fine... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:25, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

== Team Rocket's disguises ==

I noticed the page on Team Rocket's disguises is written in the present tense, while we typically write in the past tense. Is there a reason for this? Also Butch and Cassidy have used disguises during some of their schemes, should these be included on the [[List of Team Rocket's disguises]] page?[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:54, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
:The wording on that article should be in past tense, yes. As for Butch and Cassidy's disguise, I wouldn't be against it, though you might need to suggest it to others.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:11, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
::Not a problem thanks. I'll message BlazingFist to confirm whether Butch and Cassidy's disguises should be added to the page. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 02:42, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
:::I've always thought the article should be written in present tense because it's always been that way. My bad, I guess. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:45, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

==Spoiler tags for Lusamine page? Maybe also for Chairman Rose?==
Okay as the both of us know, the wiki still has not tolerated spoilers in the opening paragraph of the [[Lusamine]] page (this may also be a good thing to potentially apply to [[Chairman Rose]].
Last I checked, the original Sun and Moon (the storyline where this fits into) was released approximately 3 - 3.5 years ago. Unowninator suggested spoiler tags, and I think that may be a worthy solution.
What do you think? [[User:Crummymummy|Crummymummy]] ([[User talk:Crummymummy|talk]]) 03:38, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
:It can be mentioned in the story section of her article, with a spoiler tag in the section (though I think the twist already been alluded to anyway), it will not go to the main paragraph as it is too much of a spoiler. It being 3 years after SM has been released means nothing. It's been years since Colosseum and XD were released and their villains have separate pages from their disguised characters.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:07, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

== Sun and Moon Walkthrough edits ==

Hi, I am a new user here who wants to edit and create walkthroughs. The [[Appendix:Sun and Moon walkthrough/Section 3]] page is essentially a copy and paste of the [[Hau'oli City]] page. When I tried deleting the parts unrelated or out of place in the walkthrough, I found that I couldn't, as it was automatically labeled as vandalism. Do I need to become an autoconfirmed user first, or do I need some other privileges? Thanks for your help. [[User:Mercilessstarfish|Mercilessstarfish]] ([[User talk:Mercilessstarfish|talk]]) 02:32, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
:That normally happens when new users try to remove large amounts of information. You just need to wait a while.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:00, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

== Lickitung's Lick ==

In 2016, you said on Jessie's Lickitung's talk page that the action of licking does not equal the move Lick. However, the announcer in Lickitung's debut episode clearly refers to the action as "Lick attack", as in "Lick the move". If you ask me, this is just an example of an anime move error than an "improvised" move. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:24, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
:I'm aware of what the announcer said, though I do not remember if it was dub added or from the original. I've removed the improved moves template from the page, the template itself having already been removed multiple times before only to be re-added again.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:14, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
::Okay. I looked into it, and it turns out that Lickitung's licking wasn't referred to as a move in the Japanese version. So yeah. I stand corrected. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:44, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

== My edits ==

Why are you reverting my edits to the Pokémon pages?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 04:53, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

== Do paintings of Pokémon count as anime appearances? ==

{{U|KnightGalarie}} [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Squirtle_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=0&oldid=3152250 certainly seems to think so]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:48, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
:Paintings are images, right?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 08:50, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
::I've been getting mixed signals about that, honestly. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:54, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
:::[[Bulbapedia:Manual of style/Anime#Pokémon appearances and debuts]].--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:09, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
::::So the Pokemon Park robots/animatronics don’t count as appearances at all?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 09:12, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::An exception can be made for those as they played a major role in their episode.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

==May's Ivysaur==
And hey as long as we’ve got you, why is May’s Ivysaur considered a “Major appearance” when her Ivysaur never actually appeared? I brought it up on the Ivysaur talk page but it didn’t get any traction--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 09:20, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

:If it has an article and belonged to a main character, then it's automatically a major appearance. The fact that most of its major appearances were spent as a Bulbasaur carried over to its time as an Ivysaur and then a Venusaur (which, if I may recall, didn't appear for too long either). [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:21, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
::But Venusaur at least got ''an'' appearance. Ivysaur has zero appearances. It can’t be a major appearance if there’s no appearance to speak of--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 09:24, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
:::The section is just more or less stating that May's Bulbasaur eventually evolved into an Ivysaur. It's fine.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

== My own block ==

Hey! I think I might have to be blocked too. I've reverted {{U|KnightGalarie}} so many times on so many different articles that I've lost count. Review my history and see if I've done enough reverts to warrant some sort of block, because I do feel like I've jumped the gun one too many times here. But at this point, I'm too tired to check for myself. Thank you! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:10, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

== GalarPony and KnightGalarie ==

Hey! Call it a far-fetched hunch, but is it possible {{user|GalarPony}} and {{user|KnightGalarie}} could be one and the same person? Not only do their usernames both have "Galar" in it, but both [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:GalarPony#Refusal_to_use_talk_pages GalarPony] and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:KnightGalarie#Block KnightGalarie] have a bad tendency to edit-war and use edit summaries to make their argument rather than trying to go to the talk page first. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:27, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
:Did a check between the two accounts. I've given them a message.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:31, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
::I just read your message. Honestly, given the similarities you just described (some of which I hadn't even thought of, honestly), it looks super-suspicious. I'm personally convinced they're the same person, but I suppose GalarPony's multiple IP addresses complicates things for you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:34, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
:::Whoa, whoa, whoa, how can the issue be [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AKnightGalarie&type=revision&diff=3153995&oldid=3153986 cleared up]? How could KnightGalarie share the same computer details as GalarPony and yet say they created their account on a cellphone? Unless there's something about computers I don't know about (and please feel free to explain it to me if this is the case), this is telling me two possible scenarios:

:::1) KnightGalarie is GalarPony and created the account with a cellphone, and then used the same computer to make their edits.

:::2) KnightGalarie and GalarPony are different people who share access to the same computer (which KnightGalarie hadn't exactly confirmed).

:::I think you should press for some clarification on their explanation, because I'm still suspicious about this. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:01, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
::::I don't believe that he is GalarPony. The only thing connecting the two are the matching devices, which isn't that helpful if it is a mobile device. The similar names isn't even a good reason, anyone can use the word "Galar" in their name. Their behaviors, whilst similar, are still circumstantial. In a sense, I decided not to pursue it any further. If you still have concerns, you can bring it up with someone of a higher rank than me.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:47, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

== Cynthia149 ==

{{user|Cynthia149}} had [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ANew_series&type=revision&diff=3154191&oldid=3154141 this lovely comment] to say at the [[new series]] talk page. Mind giving them a warning? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:27, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
:<s>Don't think it's too bad, but I'll leave a response on that talk page.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:47, 25 April 2020 (UTC)</s>
:Nah, I'll give them a message on their talk page instead.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:51, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
::Okay, thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 18:52, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

== Pokérap backwards ==

Hello Force Fire, I was browsing through my previous contributions to the Wiki and decided to look at the controversy page, I noticed that the point about the Pokérap had an inadequate source. After doing a search for "Pokérap" and "Satan" I found no first had source, I reckon this could be a myth like Lavender Town and the Vikings wearing horns on their helmets so removed it but you want a discussion so I'm starting one. The point doesn't have a valid source and makes Christians come across as overly paranoid, I don't think this site should allow misconceptions to spread, I mean after all the Lavender Town point isn't on the page which is a similar myth so why should this one?[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 21:53, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
:The Lavender town myth was actually busted. The Pokerap thing hasn't been busted. Does it make Christians look bad? Maybe? But people from other religions have said stuff about the franchise, so Christians saying such things wouldn't be too far off. I've already had a discussion about this with another user years ago, but it most likely happened during the 90s when Pokemon was at the height of its craze. Stuff like this probably wasn't documented at the time, and if it was, most likely died along with the 90s.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:29, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
::Your response comes down to "I speculate that it happened even though there's no evidence to support thid from the time, but I think it happened, therefore it must remain". Just because you think it MIGHT have happened doesn't mean it did and if a source died in the 90s we should assume it didn't happen (evidence must exist to confirm something). I think it seems quite a stretch because why would people decide to play specifically the Kanto Pokérap backwards. This is exactly like the Vikings with horned helmets, no account at the time yet believed to have happened because people spread their ideas after the time. Could it not be reworded to remove the piece about Christian fundamentalist, as we have no evidence that they specifically complained about this and instead just say that people (not Christians) have noticed (not complained) that you might be able to hear "I love you Satan" essentially showing that it's a rumour on the internet.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 11:09, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
:::I will agree with ForceFire on this one. Given that there was a "Satanic Panic" starting in the 1980s and lasting well into the 1990s before it finally stopped for the most part. I would assume that there was a lot of overly zealous christians at the time trying to say ANYTHING they could to get people to stop being fans of the franchise, including making up lyrics and such that they may have heard in the songs when played backwards. The earliest record I could find making mention of this "backmask message" was from a forum thread documented in 2004 where someone asked if others had heard of this rumor before and if they thought they heard the message as well. So while it has been pretty much impossible to find videos or articles where christian folks are flat out stating this, it likely had been stated at one point in time during the late 90s - early 00s before the website was removed. Given most early internet websites were poorly archived, it would likely be impossible to find records of older christian websites making note of it these days. That being said, as youtuber SteveTerreberry has shown, if you try hard enough, you can hear whatever you want out of a song in reverse, even though 99% of the time, there is nothing there in the lyrics anyways. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 12:30, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
::::I completely disagree, it all boils down to did Christians specifically say that you could hear "I love Satan" in the Pokérap played backwards. The answer is "we don't know, we have no evidence to show that they ever did" and Frozen Fennec saying that it wasn't properly archived is not an excuse, it needs to be proved and saying that it could have happened but we have no evidence is NOT an excuse. Just because they may have complained about other recordings doesn't mean that they did about this one and shows them as overzealous people who complain about a children's entertainment franchise (which really doesn't portray them as good people, and some people might find this unproven information offensive). Force Fire saying that this hasn't been debunked is also not an excuse because you need to prove that something happened, not assume that something happened because of something that appeared on the internet after the time. Finally it's not opinion it's about objectivity and fact and you need information to prove a FACT otherwise it should only belong on speculative forums and not an encyclopedia.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 14:58, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::Another thing I just thought of is why does it really matter if it remains on the page? If it's removed for being an internet rumour then it will still exist on speculative forums, that I mentioned earlier.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 15:03, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::I just noticed something else, it says "Some claim" present tense, in other words happening right now. Regardless of everything recently discussed it should be past tense.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 15:25, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

== KnightGalarie again ==

I don't appreciate the tone he's using [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ANew_series&type=revision&diff=3160327&oldid=3160316 here]. I most certainly wasn't lying; I didn't see the first template at first. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:14, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:In what way is this acceptable behavior? The minute you see something you don’t like, your first thought is punishment?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:21, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::I'm already on hot water with admins for sending my own warnings to other users, so I'm not taking any chances. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:24, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:::But your first thought was still punishment for saying something you disagreed with. I didn’t call you names--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:25, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::::You're claiming I lied, which was extremely rude and uncalled for. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:26, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::Uncalled for? You stated an easily-provable falsity in your argument. What else was I supposed to think?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:28, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::Very bold of you to assume I was maliciously lying when I was just distracted by other tabs on my computer at the time. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:31, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Which is why you acted out of malice by running to an admin after a single occurrence instead of solely talking it out with me--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:32, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::::Because, knowing me, I was going to remind you of certain site rules, which only admins could do. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:34, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::Rules that weren’t violated--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:35, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::Correction, certain user etiquette. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:38, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::::And yet you still thought you needed an admin to scold me --[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:39, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::::Because said etiquette is documented in the site rules. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:40, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

== Attention: Rillaboom's Biology Section - Please Add Info About Its Drumsticks ==

Could you please mention where Rillaboom keeps its drumsticks? It appears that they are in the leaf-like fur near its hands (similar to how Delphox keeps its branch in the fur on its arm).

We know this Pokémon carries its drum on its back, but if we don't mention where it keeps its drumsticks, it would feel incomplete. [[User:Macpika|Macpika]] ([[User talk:Macpika|talk]]) 18:21, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

==What did I do wrong?==

I made an edit on the [[move variations]] page about adding [[m|Pika Papow]] and [[m|Veevee Volley]] to the section about [[m|Frustration]]. I edited it and added the detail about the two moves being unable to miss and it was deleted by [[u|KnightGalarie]] for “changing criteria without permission”. I don’t know what I did wrong but is there a way I can fix this so I can add these moves into the page? Or better yet, how can I get permission to change criteria without permission? I just want to be able to do better next time.
[[User:PeakA|PeakA]] ([[User talk:PeakA|talk]]) 23:13, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
:The criteria is in the first line of the article, which you did not change, so you're fine in that regard. In regards to those two moves being variations of Frustration, they are not. A move with 100% accuracy can still miss, where those two moves cannot miss.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:16, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
::That’s what it was. Thank you for telling me about this. I am going to make a new section to out these moves in as I am sure they are variations of one another. Thank you for your help. Also someone mentioned for me to take down this question but I said no. Do they have permission to do that? [[User:PeakA|PeakA]] ([[User talk:PeakA|talk]]) 15:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
:::No, they don't have permission to tell you to remove this section. I'll send a message their way.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 17:02, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

==Zeno Robinson/Ray Chase/Cherami Leigh==
With their roles of Goh, Cerise and Chloe being main or major recurring characters, I was wondering if I could mainspace the pages I created for them? [[User:BigDocFan/Zeno Robinson]], [[User:BigDocFan/Ray Chase]] and [[User:BigDocFan/Cherami Leigh]]--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 09:36, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
:I would say yes to all three, only because we know those characters are recurring/main characters.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:16, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

== Idol Trainer class ==

Hello!!

[[Hibana]] isn't a even a tainer. You removed Idol characters in the anime section who are indeed trainers, idols, and use pokémon from fairy-egg group, such as [[Brittany (EP243)|Brittany]]. If you don't remove Hibana from the Anime section, you should at least add Brittany and [[Marina (Johto)|Marina]] who also are confirmed Idol in the anime. [[User:Jeangabin666|Jeangabin666]] ([[User talk:Jeangabin666|talk]]) 13:52, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
:Hibana is referred to as an Idol. Brittany and Marina existed before the trainer class, so they can't be part of a trainer class that didn't exist at the time of their appearances (and Marina isn't even referred to as an Idol in her DP cameo).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:24, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

== Privacy cleanup ==

Hi there, just doing some Internet history cleaning for privacy reasons. Would you mind deleting my user page and its page history (and the same for talk, if that's okay), as well as wiping this edit? No need to reply, thanks. --[[user:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] 21:39, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
: For the avoidance of doubt, this is a GDPR Article 17 request for the removal of personal data. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy Appletree]] ([[User talk:Poppy Appletree|talk]]) 21:51, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
:: Hey there, just stepping in on behalf of Force Fire, for us to process this request you'll need to send an email through to privacy@bulbagarden.net and someone should be able to take care of it for you. Thanks! -[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 09:41, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

== Conflict editing ==
Hello, we're in a conflict with [[User_talk:KnightGalarie]]. I added [https://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/features/recycle/misc.html this fact] with source, which he removed and keeps removing. Bulbapedia has whole pages about [[Anime character recycling|anime recycling]] and I think this is relevent to this encyclopedia. Can you take a decision please. [[User:Jeangabin666|Jeangabin666]] ([[User talk:Jeangabin666|talk]]) 15:47, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
::You’re supposed to talk it out with the user before running to an admin. People are allowed to disagree with you. That doesn’t mean you run to administrators to plow down anyone who opposes you--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 15:49, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
:::If the building that's being recycled has a distinct design to it, then I'd say it's notable. (One off) Human characters and buildings are different in that the (one off) human characters are usually designed to be distinctive, while buildings (unless it plays some importance like a Gym or PokeCenter) aren't.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:13, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
:::Also, Jeangabin can go to a staff member if they feel that the user they are trying to communicate with isn't being overly helpful or cooperative (which your comment wasn't).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:15, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
::::Except I gave a similar explanation you did when I first removed it (how the first suburbs were all clones of one another), and instead of addressing it, they claimed I wasn’t allowed to remove it without a discussion, which isn’t true on the first removal.--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 16:18, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::The problem is you're looking at the surroundings and not the building itself, which is the focus. Of course the surrounding is going to be super vague, but that's not what's being talked about.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:23, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

== Takeshi’s Paradise performances ==

Since the running gag is far too prominent to be trivial, I’ve readied it to be moved out of the trivia section. I’ve proposed two setups on the talk page and I’m interested what you might think would be the best option: The intro, like the Pokémon Theme’s remixes are for its page, or an “In the anime” type section (name TBA) that would be placed above the Lyrics section--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 06:00, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

== Block ==

At least [https://forums.bulbagarden.net/index.php?conversations/name-change-issues.533502/ you're right] with unblocking me. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdi]][[User talk:Bfdifan2006|fan2006]]''''' 10:42, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

== I want to make a new page ==

I want to make a list of pokemon that only appear in one regional pokedex list but I don't know how to create my own page so I combined it with the list of pokemon that appear in no regional pokedex can you please let me edit that one so it can be the one I want while still being the original page? {{unsigned|Luxray4}}
:You have to be {{bp|autoconfirmed}} to be able to make a userpage. And you may not edit a pre-existing page to be what you want it to be, that article is strictly for Pokemon that do not appear in any regional Pokedex.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:48, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

== African Vulture ==

{{user|African Vulture}} is starting to get really [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ANew_series&type=revision&diff=3170025&oldid=3169968 snippy] on the talk page of the [[new series]]. Just so you know. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:38, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

:And now they're going on tangents about {{U|Abcboy}}'s location. It's weird. ([https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ANew_series&type=revision&diff=3170153&oldid=3170113] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ANew_series&type=revision&diff=3170178&oldid=3170156]) [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:27, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

== The rules apply to everyone ==

Why do you refuse to follow them, and act in such a way to make everything in your favor?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 15:55, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

== Manga ==

Hello, with all the quarantine stuff, I've been researching Pokémon manga and as you can see from some editions I did I noticed that the manga brings almost a new universe to the mythology of the franchise(Which even adds a lot of content to characters from the anime itself). Anyway, I was wondering, how can I enlist members to help contribute in this specific area?Do you think I can do something like that, or is it kind of hopeless?I ask why I usually see people more focused on Trivia or other details, and the manga part is often neglected.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 01:24, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
:Manga is not generally my area of expertise. You can see who are more knowledgeable in the manga by checking the RC and seeing who normally edits the manga related pages. The suggested page itself, if it differs dramatically from the game/anime lore (which, it probably does), then it's probably worth attempting to create in your userspace.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:43, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

== Legendary Pokemon ==

You cannot just reverting my edits, are you aware of that?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 12:24, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
:Tiddlywinks already explained on the Ultra Beasts talk page that they're not legendary Pokemon, but that's obviously not an answer you like. There are multiple sources stating that the Ultra Beasts are not legendary.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:43, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
::Can you provide any?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 17:01, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
:::I can really only repeat the source Tiddlywinks posted on the Ultra Beast talk page. And really, that should be enough to say that they are not legendary. As Tiddlywinks said, they've been referred to as non-legendary multiple times, it's not worth beating the dead horse. You're clearly never gonna get the answer you want.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 17:09, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
::::I think that they should be considered "disputed" like Phione being mythical. None of these sources is a hard proof.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 17:16, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

== What are the rules? ==

What are the rules for trivia? It seems all over the place and I get the feeling speculation isn't allowed, but some pages have it in their trivia while others don't. And do administrators here answer to non-admin users? Just so I don't have to deal with asking questions on talk pages and never getting an answer, or making edits and then having them undone without an explanation, I'm posing this [possibly futile] question. If you don't want to answer that's okay, but we're gonna bump heads again in the future and I think it's fair I give you notice. [[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|BNK]][[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|Talk]] 18:23, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
:[[User:Force Fire/Trivia Policy]]. It's not official, nor is it complete, but it's something. Speculation isn't allowed, what articles have speculation in their trivia sections? Staff members will answer to anyone's question.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:24, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

== Piplup user ==

Don't be fooled by {{U|Piplup.}}'s new account, {{user|‎ポッチャマ}}. It's the Japanese writing for {{p|Piplup}}. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:30, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
:Yes, I am aware. The Japanese names aren't on the blacklist, just the English names. Which is an easily exploitable loophole. I'll bring it up with the other staff members, but they're fine for now.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:24, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
::Oh, okay. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:52, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
:::Would Russian names also be ok, like the Japanese names?[[User:ポッチャマ|ポッチャマ]] ([[User talk:ポッチャマ|talk]]) 22:23, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
::::I'm also wondering, would transliterations of other alphabets' Pokémon's names be okay?[[User:ポッチャマ|ポッチャマ]] ([[User talk:ポッチャマ|talk]]) 22:26, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::Other language names are fine. The point of having the English names blacklisted is to avoid confusion.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:07, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

== Questionable editor ==

A user named {{user|Zarxiel94}} has made multiple consecutive edits on "[[Sync pair]]", and practically all of the edit summaries say "trying to merge the same sync pairs and using the game sync pairs stories order instead of repeating the same sync pairs and using the release order avoiding the website to consider the edit a vandalism". Seems kinda weird to me, so I thought I'd let you know. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:53, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
:Looks like they're trying to make a largescale edit by making smaller edits so not to trigger the vandal filter, which is what I got from the Sync pair talk page. Largescale edits like those needs approval anyway.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:58, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
::Figured it was something to that direction. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:24, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

== Sync Pair ==
Why my edits was cancelled? I made everything to be good and simple. Is quite dumb have for the player character for exemple 24 spaces in the list when in fact the player just have 6 Sync Pairs right now, and in future are confirmed others 3 sync pairs for him. In this way when the others sync pairs will be released jus thim will ocupy 34.--[[User:Zarxiel94|Zarxiel94]] ([[User talk:Zarxiel94|talk]]) 19:49, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
:A large-scale edit like that requires discussion with and approval from an admin. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:05, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
::I tryed to contact someone in both talk page and private page. Nobody answered me--[[User:Zarxiel94|Zarxiel94]] ([[User talk:Zarxiel94|talk]]) 20:13, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
:::Have patience. Replies can sometimes take a long time to come. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 21:00, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

== Hyfg ==

A user named Hyfg has done a couple of big vandal edits today. I've reversed them already, but I was wondering if the user should be blocked? I'll also leave it up to you to decide if the vandal edits need to be hidden. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:56, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
:Looks like you were way ahead of me. Sorry for bothering you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:57, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
::It's okay.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:01, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

== Category name? ==

Why specifically use the category name for the Obedience article?[[User:JasonL|JasonL]] ([[User talk:JasonL|talk]]) 16:13, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

== {{m|Weather Ball}} ==

I have just created a [[User:Bfdifan2006/weatherball|variation]] for the {{template|movegen}} template for the page about {{m|Weather Ball}}. This is due to the issue we discussed on {{m|Talk:Weather Ball|its talk page}}. I've told {{user|Abcboy}} about this, so staff can hold a talk on the restricted section of the forums and remove the page from {{cat|pages where template include size is exceeded|this category}}. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006]]'''''[[User talk:Bfdifan2006|something to say?]] 08:08, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
:I think the cell below the image should be the type, rather than the generation. I also think this works for the side series, might have to do something a little different for the main series games, unless you want to try it the way you have it now.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:39, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
::Yes, Force Fire, it was intended to be type, not generation, but I was just too lazy to change. I will take these changes into consideration. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006]]'''''[[User talk:Bfdifan2006|something to say?]] 08:57, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

== Request renaming this user subpage without leaving a redirect ==

Could you please rename this subpage of mine to a new title (still in my userspace) without leaving a redirect?
* [[User:SilSinn9801/Alldex testbench]]
↓
* [[User:SilSinn9801/List of Pokémon that appear in multiple regional Pokédex]]
It’s a sandboxed copy of [[User:Force Fire/List of Pokémon that appear in multiple regional Pokédex|your own mainspace-candidate page]], but using my [[User:SilSinn9801/Alldexh|sandboxed]] [[User:SilSinn9801/Alldex|modifications]] of {{template|Alldexh}} & {{template|Alldex}}.

Thankee! ‐⁠‑''[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]]'' ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') [[User talk:SilSinn9801|💬]] 17:08, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:03, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

== Asdawdasd ==

I think {{user|Asdawdasd}} may be a vandal. Take care of it? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:55, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

== Ash's Heracross's gender ==

While I personally agree that Ash's Heracross is male, the reason why its gender hasn't been added to Bulbapedia before was because some admins don't consider Pokémon in the anime that had gender differences introduced to their species in Generation IV confirmed as being of the gender matching the outlook of their gender from the games, if the individual Pokémon was introduced before Generation IV. I hope you understand what I was trying to say. And, again, I personally don't disagree with you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:17, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
:I mean... I'm one of those admins that does not consider a pre-Gen IV debuted Pokemon being of a certain post Gen IV gender. This is currently being discussed with the other staff members.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:30, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
::And yet, you still made the edit. I hope this leads to this opinion being verified. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:48, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

It's been decided that it stays at unknown, as the female variant that appeared wasn't stated to be a female Heracross. It may seem a tad strange, but the anime has shown a gendered Pokemon without its gender defining attribute (Raichu).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:27, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
:To be fair, Raichu's gender difference is pretty small, but yeah. I kinda guessed this was going to happen. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:37, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

== Mainspaced Goh's Pokémon ==

Hi good day. Since in episode 23, most of the Goh's Pokémon gained a great prominence, is there any chance that at least those who stood out as main ones like [[User:Hikaru Wazana/Goh's Beedrill|Beedril]], [[User:BigDocFan/Goh's Darmanitan|Darmanitan]], [[User:Hikaru Wazana/Goh's Cubone|Cubone]] and [[User:Riox-Ibui/Goh's Golurk|Gorluk]] are going to be in the main space?[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 12:03, 07 May 2020 (UTC)
:The requirements states that they need to have been withdrawn from Cerise's lab and taken to another region.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:51, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
::In that case, Beedrill fits this rule, right?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 12:54, 07 May 2020 (UTC)
:::Not sure if it's involvement is of note. Sure, the battle itself was important, but Beedrill itself really didn't do much.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:43, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

== Confusing username ==

{{user|Instagram}}

'''REQUEST:''' Block this user

Request sent at 11:50, 9 June 2020 (UTC) by '''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006]]'''''[[User talk:Bfdifan2006|something to say?]]
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:43, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

== Is GrammarFreak banned yet? ==

Do you think this lovely user that you just blocked was a sockpuppet? I can't imagine this person simply brought me up because they randomly selected me from a sample of users. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:05, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
:None of their IP addresses or email matches anyone else, but it is highly likely it is someone that you've crossed path with in the past.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:41, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
::Okay. Thank you for checking. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:43, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

== Kunihiko Yuyama interview for M20 ==

Would you happen to know how to use the Wayback Machine for [https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/f217f5d4d220125649d09386fb6750cfa794af9c this source], or anyone who would? I'm hoping to gain access to the original interview and use it as an external source for [[M20]]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:09, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

:Hello? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:03, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
::SnorlaxMonster may help regarding using wayback machine.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:09, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

== Category of questionable notability ==

A user created a category called "Arrested characters" for characters who have been, well, arrested in the anime. Personally, I don't see much notability in such category, but what's your opinion? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:04, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
:I had noticed that and brought it up with the other staff members earlier today. We agree that it's not notable.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:01, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

== Unacceptable username ==

A user recently registered with the username of {{u|Thots}}, and I think that should be disallowed. I mean, we wouldn't allow someone to sign up with a name like "whores" or "sluts". [[User:Mr. Daikon|Mr. Daikon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Daikon|talk]]) 20:04, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
:Dealt with.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:39, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

== Suggestion ==

I'd like to make a suggestion. Shouldn't pages like [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Physical_move#List_of_moves] not show contest category anymore? It was useful only in the 6th generation. Now it could be replaced by current mechanic like power of Max Move.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 12:51, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
:Also, power of the moves is describes as "varies" and "-" pretty inconsistently, as I pointed out here [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Metal_Burst_(move)].--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 15:38, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

==Casey Mongillo==
With their role of Goh's Scorbunny and Chrysa, I was wondering if [[User:BigDocFan/Casey Mongillo]] could be mainspaced?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 13:11, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
:They meet the first requirement, the page is good to be mainspaced.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:09, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

== Goh's Pokémon list ==

Goh keeps catching new Pokémon every other episode, making the Pokémon list on his page ever longer. Should said list (aside from probably Raboot) be split into its own separate (sub)page? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:57, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
:That has been brought up a few times, and I personally agree that it should be split off before it gets too large. I believe someone already has a subpage in their userspace. I can bring it up with other the staff members to see what they think.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:43, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you. Please do that. I'll be looking forward to what they say. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:05, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

== officer Jenny is not voiced by Lipica Shaw pre bw112 ==

I'll present this in a mildly entertaining way.

Bad admin! bad! Go to your bed and think about what you done!

Just because you're an administrator dude does not mean that you are in the right or that you get to tell me I am wrong.
I defy you, my beautiful and smart Australian friend, assuming the BW anime even still is available on Ausie netflix or else if there are DVDs of BW episodes pre-BW112 to find me 1 episode in which Officer Jenny is voiced by Lipica Shaw, who hasn't even appeared in the BW series outside of voicing a battle judge in I believe BW051. Oh wait you can't because you show Shaw episodes prior to BW112 and she won't remember it because she had nothing to do with any of Jenny's apearences prior to BW112. The facts are on my side baby, and i know I don't mean maybe.
Shaw hasn't appeared in BW as Officer Jenny prior to BW112 and both Tom Wayland and the credits agree with me. Remember that? You used Tom Wayland as your source before? Was he lying? I no longer have twitter, because of some fool mistaking me for somebody else, otherwise I would have gotten a confirmation for you.
You best remove Lipica for anything prior to BW112 until you can prove she was even Jenny prior to Adentures in Unova and Beyond.
So I hope they do have the BW anime down under there because this time, it is you who must prove your case.
So can the admin prove himself that Lipica Shaw was Officer Jenny prior to BW112? or will the Admin dude have to admit that he is dead wrong, as admins often are.
This is a case where your admin status won't effect the outcome, as it's a matter of facts, not subordination.
Until you figure that out, you will be put in a water cage so your force fire can't get out of control.
Good luck proving me wrong, and how I wish I still had me a twitter so I could smash your doubt.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 15:52, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

:1) Calm down 2)You still need a source, you can't just say you had one and not show it. We're not going to believe anyone that comes here saying they have a source and not provide it. 3) Credits are not valid sourced. Why? Because the credits don't say who voiced who. It just lists the names of the voice actors. And even if what you say about the credits is true, it doesn't mean Emily voiced Jenny. She could've voiced another character instead, because the credits don't say who she voiced.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:05, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
::Whilst trying not to get too involved in this dispute, I have sent Shah a tweet to see if she remembers--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 16:14, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

To keep up the mildly entertaining theme, with assurences that I am calm:
Big dock, good move! I wish that I haden't been oh so cruelly banned from the wonderful world of twitter due to them thinking I was somebody that I was not. (I've been framed!)
And forcy of 'da fire, either way, even if the credits don't say "Emily voiced Jenny" they still do not list Shaw outside the Elesa episodes prior to BW112. Take BW006 fore example. What's that? No Lipicas of the shaw!
BW045, which is my favourite BW episode. Hmm, it could be an illusion, but who's name do I not see listed in the episode? Oh baby have we got no Lipica and no Shaw, nor any of her other alternate names.
BW101 also is absent the Shaw of Lipicas.
So, if Lipica Shaw voiced Jenny prior to BW112, why would she not be at least listed in the credits of those episodes as an actor?
Hmm, appears to me that something rather odd is going on, or it could be one of Beheeyem's illusions again.
But force of the fires of Bulbapedia, if I am wrong, and y'all can prove that Shaw was Jenny prior to BW112, then I'll know, as in the event of me being wrong about this, I will get a firm kick back into line by a Scorbunny.
So what will the results be? Even if we don't list Emily for BW006 to BW101 I'm fine with that. Does Emily still have twitter?
Well, either the Officer Jenny article will list Lipica Shaw for BW112-BW138, or I'll get a firm kick back into line by Scorbunny.
I await the results.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 16:24, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

:Wait for BigDocFan to come back to us if Shaw has responded. Also, like I said, even if Lipicas wasn't credited in those episodes, you can't assume that Emily voiced Jenny, as again, the credits don't say she voiced her. And going by process of elimination is still speculation, as another voice actor may be able to produce a similar sounding voice.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:30, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
I do await BDF.
What I am saying is that I don't doubt that the credits do not list the rolls, nor do I doubt that there are other actors that could produce a similar voice.
However, I'm saying that Lipica isn't in the credits of BW006-bw101, therefore unless TPCI are notorious for not crediting people, it couldn't have been Shaw.
I will agree not ot put Emily as BW006-BW101 until those can be confirmed.
I am saying that Lipica couldn't have done those as he isn't credited.
Again, I could be wrong, and if I am, then I will get that firm kick back into line by a Scorbunny.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 16:56, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
::::Response was Hi there! Oh no I came on during season 16 I think? It was so long ago! IMDB says 16.06 was my first Officer Jenny appearance. https://twitter.com/LipicaShah/status/1272209539790708736. I would wait to see what admin say before acting--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 17:03, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, BigDocFan. While I won't count the imdb bit, but it at least clears that part up. Just need to find out who voiced Jenny before her.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User ztalk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 17:21, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2069488/fullcredits

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1798941/

[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 17:38, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Force Fire/Archive 11

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African Vulture: /* officer Jenny is not voiced by Lipica Shaw pre bw112 */

User talk:Force Fire/Archive 11

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African Vulture: /* officer Jenny is not voiced by Lipica Shaw pre bw112 */

User talk:Tiddlywinks/Archive 4

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African Vulture: /* Officer Jenny */

;Archived talk
* [[User talk:Tiddlywinks/Archive 1]] (through Sept 14, 2014)
* [[User talk:Tiddlywinks/Archive 2]] (through Nov 5, 2015)
* [[User talk:Tiddlywinks/Archive 3]] (through Feb 22, 2017)

== Radiant Sun/Full Moon ==

Why do we have the Radiant Sun and Full Moon forms on Solgaleo/Lunala's pages and the form differences page? When I added Reshiram's and Zekrom's active forms to their pages it was removed because they aren't counted in the Pokédex like Xerneas's neutral mode, but yet Radiant Sun and Full Moon forms are also not counted in the Pokédex, yet are on their pages. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 15:06, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
:In Solgaleo/Lunala's case, [http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon/ the official site] called them forms. (Whether that should be OK may be arguable.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:05, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
::Ah, that makes sense. Thanks. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 16:12, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
:::Adding on, there are some Pokémon who have form differences recognized by the Pokédex but yet don't have their forms in the box at the top of the page (eg Furfrou). Should they be added? --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 14:28, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
::::Rotom is basically the high end of what we're willing to accomodate in the infobox. If there is a ''strongly'' compelling reason in the future, we might consider more, but something like Furfrou is simply impractical and relatively trivial—little benefit to worry about including it. It's fine with a gallery. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:39, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

== Your help ==

..was unexpected in both "I didn't expect you to help" and "Why exactly did you do [[Special:Diff/2604502|that]]" kind of way. So, thanks for the former, but for the latter, was that more an "oh my Nesci now just get over that class=expandable thing its bad nobody wants that", or rather an "i still have javascript disabled so i must've cleaned up and nothing more ♪♫♪♫"? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 10:25, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
:It took me a bit to parse your actual question here...but yes, I don't enable Javascript if I don't need it, and all I saw was apparently pointless HTML tags in the diff. I might've said about as much except I try not to sound too much like an ass (because sometimes people just don't know), so instead of writing something like, "That's weird yo", I just simplified the reason very, very basically.
:That said, the first table is '''super''' short, collapsing it seems a bit pointless. In fact, actually reading that one, IMO it'd be better to just make those nested bullet points instead of a whole table (like [[Experience#Gain formula]]); or just nest the technical note about Gen I-II specifically. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:56, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
::Um, sorry for being cryptic, I thought you'd remember we already talked about that. Yo.
::Thanks for the nested bullet points idea, sounds good, I'll try to see how that might work out. But for the ''other'' table, you accidently removed the expandable part (more or less), there wasn't a hidden anti-javascript agenda or something, right? (I know that HTML tags look weird—it's a workaround because for some reason, using * will always push everything down to the next line; so I'd prefer to restore that.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:04, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
:::Hiding the ''entire'' table isn't generally the smart thing in any case. If you're going to collapse a table, you can generally just do it right on the table in question. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:23, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

== Z-Moves ==

I made a template at [[User:Celadonkey/Template:Z-Moves]] to assist with accessibility for Z-Move pages, similar to the "Variations of _" on a lot of move pages. I was wondering if it's ok for me to mainspace it and put it on all the Z-Move pages. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 18:05, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
:Lemme just ask, do you care if I (fairly) radically change the style and then mainspace it? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:30, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
::No, I don't mind. Go ahead! --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 01:38, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
:::It looks awesome, thanks man. But I really think that having an MS for the species Z-Moves would be beneficial. Is there any way we can still implement it? --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 14:55, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
::::They are pretty. But they make that part relatively big too. I don't think it's so bad since it's all summarized on the [[Z-Move]] page too already. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:59, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

==Aether House==
If you don't like my edit, find some other way to deal with '''misleading''' information that could give people the wrong idea of when Porygon could be collect. I am stating this from an intelligent standpoint, not to show any rudeness. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 19:37, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
:Never mind, did not see that. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 19:51, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

==RE:Moving pages==
Can you move the page [[Gracidea (Sinnoh)]] to [[Gracidea Garden]]. After duscussion and waiting a long time, other users agreed and no one opposed the move. See [[Talk:Gracidea (Sinnoh)]] for further details. Or can you contact an Editorial Board member, as said on the [[Bulbapedia:Editorial Board]] page. [[User:Jeangabin666|Jeangabin666]] ([[User talk:Jeangabin666|talk]]) 19:18, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

== Verity Lakefront ==

You changed [[Verity Lakefront]]'s text box back to a default text box after I changed it to a route text box. It is stated in the [[list of routes]] on Bulbapedia that the [[Sinnoh]] lakefronts are routes. It even says on the [[lakefront]] page of Bulbapedia that the lakefronts are routes. The three lakefronts are routes, thus deserving a route text box. --[[User:RedHailfire|RedHailfire]] ([[User talk:RedHailfire|talk]]) 22:07, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
:"List of routes" is not the criteria for deciding whether a location should have a "route" infobox. I'd be hard pressed to define exactly what those criteria are because there ''are'' a few places that are not numbered routes where we use a route infobox (and I'm OK with those), but if you want me to, I can try to figure out what the specifics are/should be. For now, though, please trust me that the lakefronts are regular locations, not routes. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:24, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
::The [[lakefront]] page also states that these areas are [[route]]s. Also, if these lakefronts don't get route infoboxes, then why does [[Spring Path]] get a route infobox? The lakefronts are much more like routes, for most of the lakefronts actually have [[tall grass]]. Spring Path is such an obscure location. --[[User:RedHailfire|RedHailfire]] ([[User talk:RedHailfire|talk]]) 22:33, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
:::To attempt some loose/theoretical explanations, "Spring '''Path'''" closely suggests something like a route, so it was perhaps easy to just put Route infobox there. A "lakefront" sounds more like a simple location, however.
:::This is not strictly justification, but, again, explanation for the current state of things (i.e., a basic answer to your "why"). The presence or absence of tall grass also doesn't really make or break a route, because plenty of locations (like the lakes themselves) have grass, and some routes don't (e.g., [[Kalos Route 1]]).
:::Sort of like I said above, it may be that we should solidify some criteria for what locations deserve Route infobox and which ones deserve Infobox location.
:::Let me ask (and try to answer this as earnestly as you can): why exactly did you change the template? Was it strictly because there was a '''route''' infobox template, and those pages weren't using it even though that's what you thought they were? Or was it more because you wanted to see the connecting locations like routes show them (and thankfully for you, the lakefronts are identified as "routes" in some places)? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:50, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
::::Another path in [[Sinnoh]], called [[Seabreak Path]], is a path and is considered a [[route]], similar to [[Spring Path]], yet Seakbreak Path doesn't get a route infobox. Seabreak Path is also on the [[list of routes]] here on Bulbapedia. I may fix the infobox later, since Seabreak Path is considered a route and a "path." I adjusted the [[lakefront]] infoboxes purely because the lakefronts are considered routes, and route infoboxes belong to routes. It makes sense to give a route an infobox literally called a "route infobox." I thought it was just common knowledge. --[[User:RedHailfire|RedHailfire]] ([[User talk:RedHailfire|talk]]) 00:55, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
::::I also wasn't suggesting that '''all''' routes have [[tall grass]], but most of them do. --[[User:RedHailfire|RedHailfire]] ([[User talk:RedHailfire|talk]]) 00:58, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
:::::The contrast of Spring Path and Seabreak Path perhaps gives you your best answer: there probably wasn't any rigorous thought about it all. This is a public wiki. It can be easy for certain "habits" to start small and slowly spread, very possibly via different people, and without perfect rhyme/reason. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:08, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
::::::Do you approve of my change of the [[Seabreak Path]] infobox? --[[User:RedHailfire|RedHailfire]] ([[User talk:RedHailfire|talk]]) 01:22, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
:::::::I'm basically leaving it all alone at the moment. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:23, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

== Another template I thought might be useful ==

I'm not sure if there's a need for it, but I made a template [[User:Celadonkey/Template:Spritebox/MS/1]] for menusprites to be used in the sprites section of a Pokemon. I was thinking there would be another for Gen IV, Gen V, Gen VI, and Gen VII Pokemon. This one would be used for Gen 1-3 Pokemon. Is there any that needs to be changed and would there be a need for it in the mainspace? --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 21:44, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
:I just realized... Would there be any way to do Gen I and Gen II menu sprites? I know that there are just general sprites like "Ball" and "Quadruped". --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 22:00, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
::Just so you both know, the old menu sprites and their Pokémon are listed [[User:SnorlaxMonster/Original era menu sprites|here]]. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 22:26, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
:::This is awesome! I'll try to add this in. {{unsigned|Celadonkey}}
::::All updated! Thanks. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 23:53, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
:::::Maybe.
:::::One problem about the template is that it basically requires changing when there's a new generation, when it's generally been our goal recently to avoid that in templates with such wide use as all Pokemon.
:::::You can keep it around, but it's not something that can be signed off on easily given its wide effect. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:58, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
::::::True, true. Is there any way I can rework this so that it would not have that problem? --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 18:23, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
:::::::If you want to try, you're welcome to. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:34, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
::::::::Alright, but how would I go about doing that? --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 18:59, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::I don't know how much you know about templates, but if you need to, I'd suggest checking out your welcome template links or introductions on Wikipedia or elsewhere. Then, you can try looking at what we do with other templates that are designed to avoid this, like dex, availability, and sprites on Pokemon pages.
:::::::::Beyond that, I don't know how to tell you exactly what to do without just as well doing it myself (which I won't). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:21, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
::::::::::I had an idea... What if there were templates for each box I already have (for example, a Gen I menu sprite template) and then those templates would be put together on a "master template" of sorts to be used on the Pokémon's page to make the full chart? This way, instead of all of the templates being modified every time a new generation comes, the sub templates would be adjusted appropriately, or if a new gen has completely new menu sprites, a new sub template would be created and added to the master template. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 15:44, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
{{indent}} Actually, it might be a better idea to build the sub-templates on the Pokémon page itself instead of using a master template, because with a master template, we'd need different master templates depending on the game the Pokémon was introduced in - a different template would be needed for Bulbasaur and Dedenne, if that makes any sense. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 15:56, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

== Does this count? ==

I found a way to make Rockruff's Pokédex Entry from the anime Japanese. The translation in also there. does this count? {{unsigned|Hamfart}}
:I don't think we add dex entries until they're dubbed. On that understanding, I don't think it should be added.
:However, I don't really know the anime. You may wish to direct your question to a staff member who's more familiar instead. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:08, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

== Archives ==

Am I allowed to move my archive back to my own page? I archived my talk page for no reason and want it back to my regular talk page. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 22:24, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
:If your new page hadn't really been touched, that might be an interesting question, but since it has, it's kind of too late to ask. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:28, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
::Oh, rats. So I can't copy the code from the archive and place it at the top of my talk page? --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 22:42, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
:::That entirely defeats the purpose of maintaining the history. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:44, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
::::Ah, alright. Thanks anyways. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 22:52, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

== Weather Trio ==

The page [[Weather trio]] should be moved to Super-ancient Pokémon, an official term. It's been discussed on the talk page since early 2015, but we haven't gotten any response from the staff, but yet... Ataro has made a page [[Super-ancient Pokémon (Adventures)]]. Can it be moved? --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 13:51, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
:It sounds to me like you want to talk to Ataro rather than me. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:31, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
::I dunno, I know that the comics are Ataro's thing and this isn't really a comics thing. I may bring it up to SnorlaxMonster, or someone. Thanks for the help. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 02:00, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

== Gen VII Images ==

Hey, I was wondering about how to upload images to the [[Bulbagarden Archives|Archives]]. I have a few images for moves from [[Generation VII]], and I am unable to upload them to the Archives. It says I'm not yet a confirmed user. I saw that you are active on the Archives, so I thought that you might know how to upload these images. --[[User:RedHailfire|RedHailfire]] ([[User talk:RedHailfire|talk]]) 03:41, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
:The Archives has an {{bp|autoconfirmed}} status similar to Bulbapedia. The long and short of it is, if you look around (which may not be an entirely trivial task, but also isn't impossible), you should be able to find some things you can edit/improve on the Archives to earn that status and be able to make uploads.
:That said, do be aware that, in order to upload images from 3DS games, you [[a:Archives:Messages from the Council#November 9|have to have permission]] first. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:45, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

== Which page to put name locations on ==

Hey there! You recently reverted an edit I did to the Gen II base stats structure page, citing that information of default names for Pokémon doesn't fit there (presumably as it's not part of the 32-byte structure). So as not to get in an edit war, I figure we'll hash it out before doing anything. I'd argue it ''does'' fit on the base stats structure page, as it - as all the other properties on the page - is something common to and used for all Pokémon of the species. I'd go as far as to say the page shouldn't be about one single data structure (which the page title doesn't really imply, after all), but rather the how base stats of the Pokémon are stored in general.

Putting it on the character encoding page, as you suggested, makes no sense at all: the name data has nothing to do with the encoding of the characters at all, and isn't used in any related contexts. Seeing as the name data is used when creating a Pokémon and on summary screens, just like the rest of the base statistics... I'd say that's the best place. Not putting it anywhere isn't an option either, as that'd simply be withholding potentially useful information, which we of course don't want to do. What do you think? [[User:LpSamuelm|LpSamuelm]] ([[User talk:LpSamuelm|talk]]) 23:27, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
:Like you say: the list of names is very plainly a '''very''' different thing from the list of base stats. You're grasping at reasons to shoehorn that list into the page, when the only truly logical approach is to limit it to a single, readily identifiable structure. Based on what you're saying, we may as well have Gen III's base stats structure and Pokedex data structures on the same page; they're at least based on the same indices, which is ''basically'' equivalent to your argument for the list of names.
:The best thing you could really argue for would perhaps be a ''different'' page altogether, one that could reasonably mention all the data relating to species. That seems like a bit of a weird idea to me, though, so I'm very unsure how such a page would be made, personally.
:Anyway, I don't see the base stats structure page as being an appropriate place for it at all. If you have any better suggestions, I'm all ears. I'm basically okay with just saying it fits nowhere and removing it altogether if you think that's best, too. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:13, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

::Sorry, I don't at all follow your extrapolation here. Not sure where the "like you say" part comes from, either - I'm not "grasping", it's quite logical. Here's an a bit more structured summary of how and why they strongly relate:

::* The "base stats" for a Pokémon is data that's used in any combination of a few ways. Not all of them have to be true for a point of data to be considered "base stats", as is apparent from their inclusion in the main structure. The ways are:
::** '''Informing choices when constructing a Pokémon''' (wild held item, gender ratio)
::** '''Basic, unchanging values for how the Pokémon acts''' (types, base stats, egg cycles, dimensions of sprite, growth rate, egg groups, TM/HM flags, catch rate, Exp. yield)
::** '''Basic, unchanging values used on the Pokémon's summary screen''' (types, base stats, dimensions of sprite)
::** And yes, even '''used in the species's Pokédex entry''': the sprite dimensions byte.
::* In comparison, the default name of a Pokémon is used in the following ways:
::** '''Informing choices when constructing a Pokémon''' - all wild Pokémon get their names from the list.
::** '''Basic, unchanging value for how the Pokémon acts''' - if the Pokémon's name differs from the species, it is considered nicknamed, which has an effect when the Pokémon was received in a trade.
::** '''Basic, unchanging value displayed on the Pokémon's summary screen''' - the species name is simply displayed under the nickname.
::** In addition, it is just like the sprite dimension byte '''used in the species's Pokédex entry'''.

::That's 4/4 of the purposes filled.

::It's not really possible to, as you did, extrapolate my argument to combining the Pokédex data (which I was looking at just earlier today for Gen II; should make a nice new page) page with the base stats structure page, as the Pokédex data has no actual impact on the Pokémon. If you edit the Pokédex data, all Pokémon of that species look and act the same, with no difference even to the summary screen. Of course, as I mentioned, "removing it altogether" is ''not an option'' - skipping out on providing real information, even if it were to prevent meta-level "shoehorning" (which I really do contest), goes against the very purpose of a wiki. [[User:LpSamuelm|LpSamuelm]] ([[User talk:LpSamuelm|talk]]) 01:43, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
:::You're talking about base stats as a very abstract concept.
:::The page [[Pokémon base stats data structure in Generation II]] is explicitly about a specific structure, about a contiguous set of data (a list) with entries corresponding to different Pokemon.
:::The list of names is a WHOLLY different list. It's not logical to conflate both of those things on a page called "Pokémon base stats data structure". It's TWO structures.
:::[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:52, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
:::: They're two different contiguous data masses in memory, sure, but they're used in the same contexts. I say "Pokémon base stats data structure" can just as well mean "the structure of Pokémon base stats" (which may well include "the data is structured as part of these two parts of memory") as it can, as you assume, "this specific contiguous structure type in memory". Very logical, all in all.
:::: Really - the page in question is the absolute best fit for information on this, hands-down. I'd say it's a really good fit, but even if you don't agree with ''that'', you'd be hard pressed to find a page where it would fit better. [[User:LpSamuelm|LpSamuelm]] ([[User talk:LpSamuelm|talk]]) 02:03, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
:::::The page isn't about context. It's about a specific data structure. The one on the page. Not the list of names.
:::::...I'll go ahead and ask (even though the answer would seem obvious if you're delving this stuff at all): Do you have any experience with computer programming? Because as someone who does, I can tell you, the page title just is NOT interpretable the way you want it to be. (And those pages are by their very nature incredibly technical, meaning that is the most reasonable way to interpret it.) It's one structure. Not anything kinda with the same feel. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:10, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
::::::Yes, I am a programmer. And I really, really, don't appreciate the condescending tone you're taking. That someone doesn't agree with you does ''not'' mean they don't understand. Frankly, the fact that you choose to ask despite saying "the answer would seem obvious" tells me the entire point of the question is to be condescending, which... well, I'm not going to dignify that with further argument.
::::::Now that that's out of the way: I'm definitely qualified to say that yes, it is interpretable that way. Obviously it is, since I'm interpreting that way. It seems to be subjective, though, since you don't agree - you're taking it as a "data structure" (as what you'd call a struct in C, for example), but seeing as the page is called "Pokémon base stats data structure" and not "'''The''' Pokémon base stats data structure", it may just as well be taken as "the structure of Pokémon base stats data".
::::::You seem to be dodging a certain question a bit: what page makes for a better fit than that one? [[User:LpSamuelm|LpSamuelm]] ([[User talk:LpSamuelm|talk]]) 02:23, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
:::::::I absolutely don't claim to always be the most politic, but I certainly don't mean to be condescending. Mostly I'm just frustrated by your views when it seems so obvious to me. I'm sorry if that comes off wrong.
:::::::I'm not dodging any question: I ''put'' it where it better belongs. (As you said, you disagree. I guess I didn't see any point in going into that part more; I wanted to focus on what I ''expected'' would be a more fruitful direction...) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:33, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
::::::::So, first of all - how come you get to decide where it "better belongs"? Probably because you're a junior admin, huh.
::::::::In any case, I definitely oppose it being on the character encoding page. The character encoding is used for the names, sure, but it's also used for ''everything else'' in the game. If you put info on the species names there, why not put info on all the locations and structure of dialogue? For the Pokédex descriptions? For the list of items, the list of moves, the list of abilities, the list of trainer types? Because the contents of those have nothing to do with the character encoding except being encoded with it, just like the list of species names. [[User:LpSamuelm|LpSamuelm]] ([[User talk:LpSamuelm|talk]]) 07:38, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

{{indent}}Like I said right off the bat...if you want to offer a third solution for where it belongs, I'm all ears. When people have differing opinions, that sort of thing is ''always'' a great option if at all possible. You've spent a lot of bytes trying to "prove" your opinion above when I already suggested to you a third option. By all means, try creating some user page to try to address it. I certainly see the point of your complaint; ''I'm'' not perfectly happy with it either, but it's better than the only other alternative currently. I would be very happy to have a third option. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:13, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
::And what I'm trying to do is convince you that no, making a separate page is not reasonable at this time (which you've said yourself). However, it is much more reasonable to have it on the page where I put it than on the character encoding page. Do I simply not have a say in the whole thing? You moved it elsewhere, making my initial placement an impossibility? Is that really how it is? [[User:LpSamuelm|LpSamuelm]] ([[User talk:LpSamuelm|talk]]) 13:34, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
:::(Sorry to intrude on a talk page, but maybe it's helpful.) I think in an ideal world, we should have main "Data structures in Gen X" pages, with lots of sections that mostly link to the articles we already have, and with another section on the Pokémon names.
:::(Also, if you're interested in a second opinion: I believe if we link to it from the Pokémon structure page (much like we currently do), it should be... fine. Regardless of who is staff and who is not, I believe there are good reasons to not include it on either page, though.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:26, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
::::It's rather curious, LpSamuelm: you think I'm being (more or less) tyrannical, when you're basically asking the same for yourself. Do *I* have no say against what you want? We're two people. We want exactly different things. There's no "winner" in that equation. There's no reason you're more right than I am except that you're sure you are. The idea that this makes me unreasonable or what-have-you is nonsensical.
::::At any rate, I think we've pretty much reached the point where I ''am'' prepared to turn a little "tyrannical" and explicitly throw in the weight of my authority as a staff member. I've tried persuading you and I would have hoped you could see what was obvious to me; but I'm at a loss for what to do when you cannot see it, short of seeking staff opinion. "Luckily", I don't have to look far. =P This is truly what I think is best for the wiki:
::::* The data structure pages should as a rule only describe one structure. That is how those pages should be; not how you want to interpret them.
::::If you want to make a page that touches on more than one structure, get creative. Don't just say it's impossible. I'm '''certain''' you can make a page even if it looks a bit ridiculous. But you're not going to get anywhere so long as you keep thinking it's impossible and declining to even try.
::::It may be important to note that my word is not ABSOLUTE law. To be sure, I have some authority which should be respected. However, there are also {{bp|staff|many people above me}} who you may appeal to if you ever think I (or someone else) am terribly wrong in anything.
::::FWIW and perhaps obviously, I'd prefer if you just moved forward and either tried to work on a solution like I've suggested you can, or if you would just let it go and be productive in other ways. But I won't pretend there aren't other options. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:15, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

== Pokétch app icons ==

I get what you mean by your reasoning, but the thing is many [[Pokétch]] apps are already represented in the item lists of the locations they are obtained in by icons other than the Pokétch sprite, and have been so for years now. Some of them are icons of the Pokémon featured in their respective apps, so they make sense, but what I want to ask you now is that what do we do with this thing now? Do we replace all the app icons in item lists with the Pokétch icon, leave them how they are now and just try not to come up with any new ones, or something else? What do you think would be the best solution? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:49, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
:I'm not entirely sure what to think of those placeholders. When I first saw what you added to [[Sunyshore City]] it just looked wrong. After you've pointed out everything else, I look at, say, [[Pal Park]], and it doesn't seem so bad.
:But. There's also a simple enough solution. Just use the app images from the [[Pokétch]] page for the "sprites". Part of me was thinking for a while that that'd be best, if only! And then I realized we totally have those and we can. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:02, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

== Template edit request ==

In [[SM004]], the [[Rotom Pokédex]] gives a ton of new entries. Besides the obvious Pokémon entries, I chose to add the descriptions it gave about catching Pokémon and Pokémon Centers as well. The first one already had an entry way back in [[EP001]], so it's already been taken care of. However, the entry for Pokémon Centers still has a red link. Could you edit the Pokédex template to remove the red link? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:03, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
:It appears to have been taken care of. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:29, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
::Yup. {{user|Abcboy}} apparently took care of it before you could. BTW, as I checked out the Pokédex template out of sheer curiosity, I noticed a special entry tag (or whatever it should be called) reading "Togepi's power". I dug into Togepi's article history, and found out that that thing was used for Togepi's second AG entry at some point, but was already taken out in 2010, which was ages ago, but apparently the special note was never removed from the template. Just wondering that shouldn't something unnecessary like that be removed, even if it doesn't technically show up anywhere? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:05, 14 April 2017 (UTC) PS. Is the "Purpose" part in the template the same thing as "Dexter (purpose)", in other words, repetition and thus unnecessary as well?
:::The template is used on a large number of pages, editing it for something that's currently going to make zero difference isn't altogether wise, so for now it's just fine. (Try to always keep your signature last as well.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:25, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
::::Understood. Maybe next time it's really necessary to edit it, that can be done too. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:44, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
:::::Well, that time seems to be now. The newest dub episode has two double entries, and the template needs editing once again. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:32, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
::::::The next time you come upon a case that causes an explicit problem in a template like that, can I ask you to consider ''holding off'' on saving it with that problem? Try asking ''first'', so that you're not imposing a red link or something like that. Especially, there should REALLY be an option in {{template|Animedexbody}} that ''doesn't'' require updating such a heavily used template every time a new random odd case pops up. If we don't fix that soon, please try to keep that in mind and ask us BEFORE you use the template in an "unexpected" way again so that we can implement such a fix, which you can then freely use to use the template without problems.
::::::Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:01, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
:::::::So basically your point is, "Tell first, wait, and ''then'' edit". Gotcha. In that case, I'm now telling you ahead that I'm planning to split {{p|Yanma}}'s OS entry into the main entry and a section called "Yanma's attacks". Thanks. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:16, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
::::::::Thank you. I've updated the template. Where you'd put the 2nd parameter, you can now just put <code><nowiki>None|po={{p|Yanma}}'s attack</nowiki></code> (or whatever for anything else that pops up in the future). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:42, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::Thank you too. I've tested it out on Yanma's page, and it seems simple enough. So I was wondering, should ALL exceptions in Pokédex entries (i.e. all entries not about a Pokémon species) be replaced with this feature so that they don't need to be listed on the template itself, or should they just be left the way they are now? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:51, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
::::::::::You don't need to go out of your way, but if you're doing anything else at the same time and you want to redo it, feel free. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:13, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

== Deletion ==

Would anyone know how to delete an account?[[User:Empoleon042806|Empoleon042806]] ([[User talk:Empoleon042806|talk]]) 15:08, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
:I'm not sure if we can delete your account if that's what you want, but we could probably block it indefinitely if that aligns with whatever reason you want it deleted for. If you're perhaps dissatisfied with the name you chose, it can be changed once. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:19, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

== Genderless vs. gender unknown ==

I can't find hide nor hair of the phrase "gender unknown" on any of our pages in regard to what you mentioned. If "gender unknown" is the new canonical term for it, shouldn't we change everything to use the correct term? If not, shouldn't [[cosmic duo]] use the same usage we use on every other page? Either way, we should be consistent with one term or the other, not a haphazard mishmash of whichever people feel like. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:19, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
:I kind of meant you should talk about it "publicly" on the article's talk page, not come to me individually. I think that'd be more useful.
:(FYI, one thing I didn't have space to write is that I'm not rightly sure what makes genderless canon as you claimed. If you can specify the sources you were thinking of, I'd love to know it. Again, though, I don't mean here.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:40, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
::(The source I was relying on was... the fact that we use the term and don't use a "fan name" template on top of its page. That's all... I'll bring it up on the [[genderless]] talk page, since that disambig seems to be the grandparent of anywhere that might be relevant.) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:04, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

== FP Increasing FC Costs ==

Really, you have to delete a important detail. It was part of a incomplete section. One of the reasons was: Needed Costs for all facility levels for introduction by visitors. Please re-add them.

[[User:Bluebird3639|Bluebird3639]] ([[User talk:Bluebird3639|talk]]) 18:26, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
:That information was actually there already. Nobody remembered about the incomplete template to update it, that's all. Nothing's been lost. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:39, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

==Ether==
Hey! Sorry, I was meant to put it in the edit summary, but Ether is the Japanese name and she's called Cherie in English. At least to my understanding, disambiguations don't count if it's the Japanese name and therefore there's no clash in terms of the article names. If not, I'm happy to be corrected.--[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(토크)''']] 07:19, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
:If someone's only heard the Japanese name, they could still search for that here, and then if there's no note they'd just be left confused. There may still be ways for them to find it, but that'd be relatively difficult especially if they're not super familiar with us/wikis. I imagine there's other examples of this being done but I wouldn't know where. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:26, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

== Move infobox and "flags" ==

Hey there! I believe you're still the flag officer around here? As you know, they're not exactly all perfectly accurate (as in, they're ''annoyingly'' deserted: half of our infoboxes have <code>mirrormove</code> incorrect, for example, but then there are none of the GenV+ "flags" I pasted on the talk of [[User:Tiddlywinks/Template:MoveInfobox|what I remember you were doing]]). I'm currently doing some related work there (which involves compiling lists of incorrect "flags"), and the more I do, the more I think this needs to be reformed rather radically. Before I go ahead, I want to ask: Do you have an opinion/plan on how to handle "flags" in infoboxes? Assuming there isn't something in the works already, could we (not necessarily just the two of us, but Bulbapedia as a whole) discuss (and eventually settle on) how to handle them? I believe this really needs some conceptual work before anything else (and it is about time!), that's why I'm coming to you. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 11:02, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
:I'm not really grasping what you're getting at. I guess that means no, I don't have any plan or anything. So in short: lay out your ideas. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:17, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
::Continued [[Template talk:MoveInfobox#Flag reform|here]]. Note that I added some more "flags". [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 14:47, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

== Pulse/Wave ==

'''はどう''' is translated as ''Wave'', same as the japanese version of ''Aura'', Lucario's power.--[[User:Martianmister|Martianmister]] ([[User talk:Martianmister|talk]]) 07:37, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
:Pulse is equivalent. Especially since they were translated in English as "pulse", it's fine to use that in our translations as well, rather than just take the lazy/mechanical route of obeying whatever Japanese-English dictionaries say. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:17, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

== About the underlevelled Pokemon page ==

I saw that the pictures have been removed and I completely understand why they have been removed. But although an odd question but is SpriteIt still active on Bulbapedia? Because his most recent contributions and activity from what I'm aware of dates back to 2016 at latest. I'm asking as I'm not sure if I will be able to contact SpriteIt regarding his page for permission to have the template modified. If you know any way to contact him it would be great if you could tell me how so I can ask about the change in template. Although preferably it would make the page look better with pictures, if not having them is what he wishes than I'm completely fine either way.[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 14:36, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
:My removal of the column is entirely about what I think, not SpriteIt. That table is much too busy for a huge picture of the Pokemon's artwork. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:47, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
::Cheers for the advice from my talk page.
::Fair enough about the table being too busy for a picture of the Pokemon's artwork.
::Also would it be better to remove the "Picture" column since there are multiple methods of obtaining an underlevelled species of a Pokemon along with the fact that it never was really used to begin with?
::Also if the "Picture" column is removed could I bring back the "Artwork" column? This is since the "Picture" column was never really used to begin with while the added "Artwork" column was used so in my opinion it would make sense to replace the picture column with an artwork column.[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 14:57, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
:::I don't really know how Picture would be used. I think if it gets to where it ''might'' be mainspacable, removing it can be considered, but until then, I'd rather give SpriteIt as much time as possible to respond to the page being edited and give any input (even if it just ends up being "Do whatever").
:::Like you said, the Picture column wasn't really used so even removing it doesn't really change a thing about the rest of the table. The artwork is still relatively huge and everything else relatively busy. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:06, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
::::Hey I know this is old and most likely this will not be approved but this is why I'm asking here first:
::::Would I be able to make my own Underleveled Pokemon page so I would be able to add my own information and change the template? This is so I can modify the page without distorting SpriteIt's original page format. Also from that page I'm only taking the information I have added there(it's still going to be on the original page however).
:::: If I can't make my own page then is there a way I could contact SpriteIt regarding the page? This is so I can discuss about modifying the original page and get his input before doing anything major since I'm not sure if he goes on Bulbapedia still.[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 11:49, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
:::::The userspace exists for a reason, and we welcome users making use of it to try to develop new pages. If you want to move it in a new direction, you're more than welcome to make a page in your userspace to play with it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:29, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
::::::Cheers! I assume I can get the stuff I added from the other page and make a different template?[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 13:31, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
:::::::I'm a bit confused. But I don't think there's a lot of ways you can go wrong. Just dive in, get to it. If there's any issues, we can all figure it out. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:24, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

== Accuracy vs. evasion ==

I had believed you knew this all along, way before I realized it, but now I'm better safe than sorry: As accuracy and evasion stat stages are combined to ''one'' multiplier (Gen III onward), nothing can modify one but not the other. Or, in other words, "boosts its evasion by 25%" is another way to say "decreases accuracy of attacks targeted at it by 4/5". It's shorter and probably more intuitive/natural, but it doesn't allow us to be consistent, nor to link to one of the three consistently (and I understood that you preferred <code><nowiki>{{stat|accuracy}}</nowiki></code>). (It's also a little less precise technically/mathematically, I guess, but I think that really shouldn't matter.) More or less, I believe we (and UPC) are using "accuracy" (or <code><nowiki>{{stat|accuracy}}</nowiki></code>) as the generic term that encompasses both "accuracy"s and evasion. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:20, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
:I don't like leaving these things implied and ripe for misunderstanding, so I take it you're responding to the edits to {{a|Snow Cloak}}.
:Second: you're talking about stat stages, but Snow Cloak doesn't affect stages, it's just a multiplier. ...Perhaps you understand this, but that's not clear to me, and it did (plainly) confuse me.
:You do have a point that accuracy and evasion reduce to the same, ill-defined "stat" after stat stages are applied. (If we go by [http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/content/pokemon-diamond-version-pearl-version-and-platinum-version-accuracy-check.html UPC for DPPt], all multipliers come only after stat stages are resolved.) I.e., at a technical level, you can't really say whether a multiplier affects accuracy or evasion.
:So I think how we should handle it is that, in any cases where a multiplier nominally "affects" the user of a move, that affects their accuracy (like {{a|Hustle}} or {{a|Compound Eyes}}), while a multiplier that nominally affects a Pokemon that is the target of a move (like {{a|Snow Cloak}} or {{m|Gravity}}) affects evasion. This may be what the descriptions for those Abilities try to follow, but we may have gotten too concerned with the wrong things in some places. (If there are any categories for these sorts of multipliers, the question of what's right for ''them'' becomes interesting. Likewise, the multipliers that are split between accuracy and evasion at [[Statistic#Stat modifiers]] become equally interesting.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:13, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
::I can't tell what your first sentence means, but my post was motivated by [[Special:Diff/2637785|you asking for proof it affects something other than accuracy]] (which could have been either an educational, rhethorical statement; or you being unaware that that's not really possible).
::I believe I understand the difference between stat stages and the rest. What I wanted to make you aware of is: Accuracy and evasion have ''a single, combined table lookup'' (unlike say Atk and Def).
::For things that do affect stat stages ({{m|Double Team}} etc.), we obviously need to refer to that stat whose stages are affected. For everything else, I guess we have some freedom, and I believe we're currently consistently saying "increases/decreases <code><nowiki>{{stat|accuracy}}</nowiki></code> of moves [against it] by factor/percentage" (see {{a|Tangled Feet}}'s edit history).
::Both ways of saying it have their drawbacks (as I said above). I guess it's a matter of philosphy/ideology, and of where we want to link to. I believe either way is okay. It's just that whenever UPC etc. say "multiplies accuracy of attacks against it by 4/5", we're free to reword it to "boosts evasion by 25%" if we desire, because it's really the exact same thing.
::(As a side note: for Gravity and {{weather|fog}}, we can say both "affects accuracy/users" or "affects evasion/targets" even ideologically. Official wording from Gravity's effect apparently is neutral: "Moves are more likely to hit for five turns.") [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:06, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
:::(I can't tell how the stages are really related to anything in particular here... So I'm just going to plow ahead until it becomes clear that I did miss something.)
:::I think "where the multiplier comes from" is an eminently reasonable distinction. If it comes from the target's "condition" (like Tangled Feet), that's their "evasion" that's affected; if it comes from the attacker, it's "accuracy".
:::Gravity and fog are more field-wide effects, but I think we still can and ''should'' consider them '''logically'''. As far as Gravity, it should be pretty clear logically that gravity hampers a target's evasion. Fog should likewise logically affect an attacker's ability to ''aim'' (their accuracy). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:07, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
::::That's a reasonable philospohy/ideology, in my opinion. (And for anything not called Gravity or fog, in-game descriptions may be unambiguous anyway.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:57, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

== Teleport ==

Hey, could you maybe elaborate on why [[Special:Diff/2641360|my edit]] apparently didn't adress my concern, or shifted the problem? (I guess you realized: my concern is that it sounds like "wild mon" takes precedence over Mean Look etc.) I've looked at my screen for minutes, but I really can't seem to find it. I'd like to "fix" it, which really... doesn't make sense when I'd be trying to just repeat my earlier edit!? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:34, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
:I might have actually missed or mistaken the "wild" part at the beginning. It was still densely worded, though. It's kind of annoying, because if this were the effect when the move was intro'd, you'd say "Teleport causes the user to flee. It can fail depending on the user's level and because of trapping moves." without having to worry about, "Wait, you can't say 'always'." Being a change like this makes it hard to do smoothly (because I would have said the original way was basically easiest/fine). But I've tried to communicate the same thing more smoothly all around now. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:59, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
::Thanks. I really do try to find concise wording, but sometimes I apparently just lack the sensitivity, the ability to realize it is overly worded, so I appreciate any simplification you're able to provide.
::In the meantime, I'll be thinking about starting a petition urging for Game Freak to not do bugs, because it's really annoying for us to represent them. Seems kinda selfish. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:47, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

== Quotes ==

I saw Looker having a separate quote page ([[Looker/Quotes]]) and wonders on the full requirements of having to create a new page? I was editing Lillie's quotes and the whole thing took to 97.1KB. As for Looker, because since it's from many games, so I assume the full requirements are that the quotes must be very long and the character must have appeared in several games in order for a new page to be created? Also would "Upon being defeated" and "After battle" makes more sense? Or if "After battle" could mean even if you lost? Thirdly, if I were to create my own "User:Ruixiang95/..." on the ghosts appearing in the Pokémon games, which I doubt will be mainspaced at all, will that be a breach of the website's policy? Thanks! — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 11:08, 25 May 2017 (UTC), Edited: 11:20, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
:There aren't specific requirements for splitting quotes, but you're right, it probably shouldn't be split if they're only in one game or generation.
:I almost like "After battle", but unfortunately it probably is a problem that it sounds like it applies even if you lost the battle.
:We're more than happy for users to use the userspace to try out pages that they think would improve the wiki. You can include the {{template|mainspace}} template at the top, and when you think you're all done, you can add the parameter "status=complete". [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:58, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

== Vandal ==

[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Poke_bulba_321&action=edit&redlink=1]] Whom you reverted will not stop. Should we block? [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 04:35, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

== ability3 field in Template:Pokémon/7 ==

The field to list a third possible ability for [[Template:Pokémon/7]] (and Pokémon/6) was way overdue, so I prototyped a version that accepts 3 abilities. The only difference between this version and the current one is the line that handles the ability fields.

* Updated template: [[User:TehPerson/Pokémon/7]]
* Test cases: [[User:TehPerson/Tests]]

Please let me know if you have any feedback. Thanks!

[[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 07:30, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
:We're not eager to add another conditional in a template that already has plenty, especially when you want to use it on so many pages that use the template so much. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:55, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
::So is there some technical-related issue with this, or this being something too low priority to consider? [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 17:14, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
:::...It's exactly as I said. Let me put it less ambivalently. We will not be updating the template for that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:08, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

== Intervention, please? ==

Do you mind intervening on [[Cress's Panpour]], please? [[User talk:Pikablu|Pikablu]] refuses to listen to me when I point out that the trivia they added break policy, and they're persistently edit warring to reinstate the trivia. Thanks. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 01:13, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

== Template questions ==

Hey, I've got a few questions regarding templates:
* Are we expected to avoid images in (high-use?) templates? Is there any (server-related) issues?
* Do you know whether the software evaluates all branches of ifs, and whatever will not display due to "display:none"? Or, in other words, is there a reason to nest ifs of subsets within each other (e.g., <code>if a<100 then ((if a<50 then x) y)</code> rather than <code>if a<50 then x; if a<100 then y</code>)?
* You seemed to be eager to wrap what currently is "display:none" entirely in ifs. I believe wiki syntax does not provide that functionality to wrap entire tables in ifs (expression error for me), but it may be possible with HTML. Is there a particular reason to try that (seeing how Wikipedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conditional_tables#Plan_C suggests] using "display:none")? (Possibly the above point!?)
Of course, it's related to [[User:Nescientist/Template:MoveInfobox|this]] (in particular, the damage category icons and the contest stats). Thanks in advance! [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 10:46, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
:Abstract issues don't always work well for me... What makes you apprehensive about images?
:Similar to above... I'm going to go with, I don't know, what's your issue?
:Firstly, Wikipedia doesn't exactly "suggest" display:none, it has it as an option (which perhaps notably comes ''after'' wrapping content in #if). I suggest it because display:none very explicitly ''hides'' content. Take a look at [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Cacophony_(Ability)]]: perhaps ''every'' species page links there because that's a default value in the Pokemon infobox, but it's hidden—it's still ''part of the page'', it's just not ''visible''. This is just, in general, a less than ideal problem (preferably only "valid" links would show up), but more to the point, there's cases where it can very explicitly cover something else you want to find. Suppose there's a parameter that, if set, shows a line with a link to "page", and if it's not set, that's just hidden. Based on the output, you might imagine you could check What links here for "page" to see where the parameter is set, but in truth, it wouldn't be any use to you; and it should be. I couldn't say for what, but I'm fairly sure I ran into just that problem for something in the move infobox. (FWIW as well, instead of very obliquely referring to "You seemed to be eager", being very specific about exactly where you get something like that from can only help. At least, that's true for me. Even if I did—eventually—realize what you were talking about here.)
:[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:41, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
::It's because very few templates seem to make use of images/icons. For example, [[User:MisterE13/Villain templates|these]] look so much better than the current templates IMO, and also nobody seems to have added the category icons to the move infoboxes although they existed way before the template was designed, and that made me wonder whether that's due to images (in templates) stressing servers or anything. I [[User talk:Nescientist/Template:MoveInfobox|included them]], but if use of images were a reason to reject template proposals, that'd be good to know (in general/"abstract").
::Thanks, I didn't think of "What links here", I just thought of categories, and none were added in that "display:none" parts. But thanks for pointing it out—{{m|Floral Healing}}, for example, currently links to [[Appeal]], and it really shouldn't. So I shall try to avoid "display:none", even if that involves some HTML workaround I guess. (Correct?)
::Example is the contest data within the move infobox; if a move needs no "Contest Spectacular", it needs neither "Super Contests" nor "Contests" and so on. If the software was smart and only evaluated what it really needs to (much like most "normal" programming languages/parsers), in most cases, it would need to evaluate less parser functions if those were nested, it wouldn't need to query some color templates, etc. So, I shall try to have them nested I guess. (At least I can't see any real drawback, now that I need to wrap entire tables instead of simply using "display:none" anyway.)
::I parsed your intention from [[User talk:Tiddlywinks/Template:MoveInfobox#To do|here]]. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:11, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
:::I don't know if there's ''no'' case where images would be a problem, but I don't know how. In this particular case, if those icons ''would'' be any sort of problem, they'd be very simple to remove, so that certainly wouldn't be grounds to reject everything.
:::You don't need to use HTML—and shouldn't, really. We're a wiki. We can expect people to know/learn wikicode. HTML can only complicate things. Just stick with wikicode.
:::The only generic argument I could make about nesting would be readability (counting brackets is annoying). There's probably documentation that could tell you. I rarely have the stomach to really digest things as dense as that tends to be, though.
:::[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:28, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
::::As I said, I believe the wiki syntax doesn't allow for wrapping entire tables in ifs (specifically, I'm having problems with the opening and closing <nowiki>{| and |}</nowiki>), so I would need to use HTML (<nowiki><table></nowiki>) as a workaround. I'll try to see if I'm mistaken and/or can make it work somehow. I know using HTML it's bad.
::::Exactly, yes. But I think it's minor, especially when I'll try to intend properly. (And I think expansion depth can be a problem, but only if we get like a dozen more contests.)
::::Thanks. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:43, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
:::::Just wanted to clarify that the wiki syntax ''can'' be used to hide entire tables. I was able to make it work without using HTML. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:39, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

== Z-Move Effect ==

Ok then, let's discuss: Why do you think the E should be lowercase? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:03, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
:...I was the last one to say anything on [[Z-Move]]. And what I said seems basically clear enough to me. Either you have a response that will attempt to discount something I've said (and/or you'd like clarification on something), or we can only disagree. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:15, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
::I don't think you discounted anything I've said, and yet you reverted. Why did you revert? (I don't think any of your statements is factually wrong, but I don't see how that makes you revert my edit.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:20, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
:::There's no solid reason to think that phrase should be in title case. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:40, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
::::But wouldn't that be the most logical assumption for a key term? And also, wouldn't title case require one or two additional assumptions, namely that the beginning of the "line" (what you see in the infoscreen; I know it's not literally a sentence) ''is'' in title case, and that the capitalization ''changes'' between title case and sentence case within that same line?
::::Or in other words: Is there solid reason to think the phrase should ''not'' be in title case? (Or even ''rather'' be not in title case?) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:54, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
:::::I'm really not sure what you think a "key term" is/why Z-Power Effect is such. "Z-Power effect" seems simply descriptive, not particularly "special" or anything (for any solid reason). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:22, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
::::::Oh, you didn't challenge that until now!? That is because I noticed that in German, it is one word "Z-Kraft-Bonus", which can hardly be purely descriptive, and is different from [http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/de-de/z-moves/ the website's] actual description (which is something with "Effekte"). Also, as it's in front of a colon, it's quite explicitly summarizing/shortening what it "describes"; it's designed to be to the point. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:43, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
:::::::If you want me to have challenged it being a 'key term', I'm don't know how I should have done that when, again, I still don't know what you think that is and when this is furthermore the first time you've mentioned it.
:::::::I absolutely don't know enough about German to say much about that term, but I do know that all German nouns are capitalized. By that, I'd be very hesitant to infer too much from the German. As for it being in front of a colon, you're making a big assumption by inferring anything from the capitalization there; being explicitly set off, there's no telling ''how purposeful'' that capitalization is. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:28, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
{{indent}} Haha, of course I don't want you to challenge something I would eventually say. But what I mean when I say "it's a term" is that, well, it is an official term, official terminology, something that should be bolded and translated on the page; you didn't un-bold or doubt it was more than a pure descriptive sequence of words. (And with that German, I didn't mean to say anything about capitalization. It was an argument why it is a term, and not merely a pure descriptor.)

I know that it's technically an assumption to say "Z-Move Effect" is correctly capitalized this way. But in my opinion, it's actually way more of an assumption to say it should be "Z-Move effect" (because I guess terms are typically capitalized, because "Z-Move effect" requires the two additional assumptions I mentioned before, and because "Z-Move effect" just doesn't seem to be used anywhere official). If you really insist and disagree that it's a term, I guess we can agree that we disagree, and you would obviously have the right to make use of your Junior Adminship to overrule me if you wish—but then you should also de-bold and remove it from "In other languages". (But I honestly think I made rather strong arguments.)

But saying both "it's a term" and having it lowercase seems almost contradictory to me; I really hope that we will be able to adjust the article accordingly. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 20:57, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
:I don't have any particular opinion either way on this, but let me just point out that there are plenty of "terms" that we translate and use bold but that are officially lowercase. There's a whole list of them at [[User:SnorlaxMonster/Pokémon Syntax#Capitalization]]. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:05, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
::Yes, and/but I think we have them that way exactly ''because'' they are not capitalized in sentence case (despite being terms). But either this one is, or (we're assuming) it's in title case ''and'' capitalized (only) because of that. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 21:20, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
:::The plain fact is, there is no context where you can guarantee that "your" capitalization is intentional. Uppercase is plainly a ''special'' thing; it is not something you assume by default. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:22, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
::::Ah really? Okay, I thought one would assume that by default (for a term, or a Pokémon term). In that case, even though I would still prefer to have it capitalized based on my arguments, I guess it's not as crystal clear as I initially thought. I don't care too much then. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 21:40, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

== Talk ==

So like four people get involved and I'm the only one in trouble? Really fair treatment here. So glad we have admins to make this place so much more inviting and remove all the information.--[[User:Pikablu|Pikablu]] ([[User talk:Pikablu|talk]]) 14:58, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
:Frankly, you were the one most obviously egregious when I saw it. So I did your message first. (After the page itself.) Beyond that, I have various concerns that are not all limited to this site. Try to avoid jumping to conclusions. Or at very least, if your "unfair treatment" is really your concern, be earnest about that (for example, pointing out politely and reasonably the people you think also warrant some sort of messsge); if all you're gonna do is drawl sarcasm at me, you're not putting yourself in any good light. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:04, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

==Thoughts==
I know you might not care too much about this, but I wanted to ask about the Mystery Dungeon item pages since we've discussed it (a little) {{DL|User talk:Tiddlywinks/Archive 3|before}}. I've made a page for [[User:Wowy/Throwing item|throwing items]] where I've split the page into each game. The advantage is that the template doesn't become too complex and ugly, and you can write information specific to each game (e.g. IQ skills). Another advantage is that the item "stick" changed its name to "wooden spike" (both English and japanese) (I am assuming they have the same effect with just a different name). So sorting it out by generation would mean that the 'same' item isn't duplicated twice. The disadvantage is that you can't compare the changes that have been made over the different games, and also when someone searches "Geo pebble", I think the search would only land on the page and not on the exact item. I tried to make a page for throwing item because it's relatively sparse, but I don't want spend time making any changes to big pages such as the [[Wonder Orb]] page before approval. What are your thoughts? --[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(토크)''']] 08:11, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
:Sorry I haven't been able to figure out what to say sooner...
:Can you give any examples of where you think an item gets complex besides regarding buy/sell prices? (I don't really know what you mean when you mention IQ skills above either, and I don't think I see anything about that on your user page.) For the most part, it seems to me like, since the template is meant to handle multiple games, it seems best to use it like that (aside from how messy the prices get). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:01, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
::A slow response is better than no response! And I also don't know what the best way is, and it's fine if we end up leaving it as it is. But if you take Wonder Orb as an example of a list getting complex, some orbs are available in all the games (e.g. Slumber Orb), some are available only in a RBTDS (e.g. Silence Orb), and some only in GTI (e.g. Notice Orb, well I haven't found it yet in SMD and there are no reports of it online) etc. Like the throwing item, some items also changed names (e.g. Foe-Evolution Orb --> Enemy Evolve Orb). So for anyone playing just one of the games, the list gets confusing as to which one is relevant to your game or not, until you open each table. I guess you could argue that the page is just a list of all the orbs in all the games, but maybe the page should strive to do more than that (maybe?).
::When I mentioned the IQ skills, what I meant was when you open the "In Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team" tab, then you can see a mention of IQ skills since that info is relevant to that game, while when you open the "In Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity" tab, you can see a mention of Team Skills since that info is relevant to that game. So you can put information relevant to that game under each tab rather than having it all at the top of the page.
::Whatever happens, thanks for you thoughts! I'll keep them in mind. --[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(토크)''']] 23:54, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
:::I've been advised that a compromise could be grouping games. Like sections for "Only in [RB]", "In [RB and TDS]", "In all games", etc as required. That way you'd still have only one template for each item.
:::I don't know what to say about ones like Foe-Evolution Orb --> Enemy Evolve Orb except that it's arguably working alright as it is now on Wonder Orb, with just separate templates for each name. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:52, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
::::Ok, that sounds good in theory, but it ends up with too many arbitrary sections: "Only in [RB]", "[In RB and TDS]", "[In RB, TDS and GTI]", "[Only in TDS]", "[Only in GTI]", "[Only in SMD]", "[In all games]", and would separate similar items that should be grouped together (e.g. Stick, Silver Spike and Iron Thorn are obviously counterparts with different strength, but Silver Spike would come under "All games", while Stick and Iron Thorn would be classed as "In RB, TDS and GTI"). If that's the case, I'm more than happy to keep the MD item pages as it is now rather than make that change (it also doesn't solve the buy/sell price issue).
::::On another note, should Foe-Evolution Orb and Enemy Evolve Orb be listed together on the same template since the Japanese names are the same, while Stick & Wooden Spike, Iron Thorn & Iron Spike be listed separately since they have different Japanese names and so are distinct items?
::::And thank you, I appreciate your responses! :) --[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(토크)''']] 01:28, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
:::::Are those arc/straight categories a strong in-game distinction, beyond just ''how they behave'' when they're used? If not (and possibly even if they are), then you ''could'' forego those sections. There's only three arcing items, I think it would be fine then to just talk about the different behaviors and highlight the three arcing items at the top of the page or something.
:::::Strictly speaking... Yeah, the Foe/Enemy Evolution Orb should be in a single template, basically like {{DL|Status condition healing item|Paralyze Heal}}. On the other hand...that unfortunately brings about a similar sort of problem as you mentioned before, since the closed template doesn't display the note about the previous name. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:04, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
::::::Okay, how does the [[User:Wowy/Throwing item|page]] look now? --[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(토크)''']] 04:09, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
:::::::Did you misorder the Rare Fossil and Gold Thorn in the TDS section? Seems good to me otherwise. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:16, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

== Magikarp ==

I had believed it was rude of you to just undo the entire edit when I thought you seemed to be adamant to keep that section clean, and wanted me to possibly move it elsewhere. However, if your problem was not ''where'' it was added, but ''that'' it was added at all, I believe it's just as rude. By now, it should be clear that I (currently) disagree. Either way, please feel free to outline your rationale.

(As an aside, I believe it's quite striking you expect me to possibly start the discussion by undoing an edit, again. Or is this you exerting Junior Admin powers?) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:51, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
:I'm going to be honest... The argument you're attempting to make here simply makes no sense to me. You're thinking something that's just totally different than what I'm thinking.
:The situation is very simple. I saw you added something to Magikarp a earlier that didn't belong. You reverted my reversion and called my reversion rude. That makes no sense, and your simple reversion completely ignored the problem I pointed out. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:08, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
::Honesty is always good. I'm in.
::In my opinion, a simple undoing of an edit (that is within the MoS) is almost always some kind of rude if that undoing is based on personal opinion only. Even moreso when the edit is not one word, but an edit the editor obviously spent time and thought to it. (I thought about it for several days, and it took more than half an hour to finally implement my edit.)
::...And it's more rude (and very striking) when the editor/edit attempted to solve an issue. Your reversion didn't address the problem at all. It just reinstalled it.
::What problem did you want to address in your edit comment? I understood that you wanted to make me (or everyone) aware of the fact that this should be about the species the article is about, not describe a game. I am aware of that, it's just that the game ''is'' about that species. The game is literally ''called'' the species—I can't do anything about that. What I did was focus on Magikarp appearing there (and I pointed that out in my reversion).
::(Just in case: The patterns are the most important part of it, in my opinion. I ''insist'' they need to be somewhere on the page.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:37, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
:::I have to say... (With, for what it's worth, no offense intended.) It doesn't matter how much time you spend on an edit, if someone undoes that for what ''they'' think is a good reason, your investment/disappointment in ''no way'' justifies you automatically labeling it rude. Just because you put effort into something doesn't give it some magical protection.
:::You say I didn't resolve the problem you were concerned about. Fun fact: I don't really know Magikarp Jump. My intent was that someone who does should address that concern in a better way than your edit did. (This all comes around to: you're invested in this thing and feeling hurt about it. I won't say you can't be, but don't lay it all on other people. They don't have to have the same investment as you.)
:::You state the problem exactly, but declined to try to address it at all. There's a whole article for details of the game. Pumpkinking's edit addresses Magikarp's appearance about as deeply as (as near as I can tell) it needs to be.
:::And there's already an explicit place for sprites. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:59, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
::::I am in absolutely no way feeling hurt or something about ''my'' edit being removed. Simply removing that much value created focused at solving a problem (one we even agree on), is bad—regardless of who created that value. (And I didn't say that value gave it protection, or used it as an argument to "automatically" call it rude.) In short: Removing the entire thing entirely is certainly worse than what I did.
::::I know Magikarp Jump a bit. And/but I don't quite understand what makes you think my edit was bad. If you (have read my explanation above and) specified, I could try to address your concern. (Again, I focused on Magikarp ''in the game'', not the game itself.)
::::Are you suggesting to append it to the core games' sprites? I initially wanted to have the patterns near the prose explaining them, but I'm okay with your suggestion as well. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:20, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
:::::Call it what you want then, there is still no justification for calling a good faith edit "rude". Anything not to your liking is not "rude".
:::::I'm not sure why you're offering to address my concern when I've already said that Pumpkinking's edit is good. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:32, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
::::::Okay then, I misread that part. I'm fine with that as well, if we add the patterns (in prose and images). Would you please edit them in (or answer where I should put them)? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:50, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
:::::::I already said, if they belong anywhere, there's already a sprites section. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:19, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
::::::::I hope you already know this, but after reading this whole section again, I wish to very explicitly state/reconfirm that no offense was intended on my part either. I was not trying to attack you personally, and I hope you didn't draw that conclusion at any point. (I obviously suck at reading your mind sometimes.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 20:40, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

== Marowak ==

Based on your response to PlayerKing95's page what is your stance on the moves used in SM034?--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 13:43, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
:I don't really follow the anime. I'll pass the question along. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:52, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

==Shuckle==
Thanks for dealing with the vandalism from Joel, hate things I like that.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 21:18, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
:Meant to be I hate things like that.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 21:18, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

== RE: Encounter Edits ==

As I've been playing through the series gen by gen recently, I've noticed that the more recent gens are full of misinformation on encounters. Diamond/Pearl had a few apparent hiccups, but I'm running into them all over the place in Black/White. Serebii's database is even worse, listing pokemon in completely incorrect routes and areas. It's clear that the encounter rates thus far have all gone on people's experiences and nothing else. I'm just adding mine to the pool--and mind you, I'm changing nothing unless it's been hours upon hours and I'm absolutely, 100% sure.

If you want to dig up ROM data, by all means, feel free. It has not been done with this encounter tables. I don't have the time or interest in doing it, either--again, I'm just adding my contribution to improve the tables. Even if it won't make them 100% perfect, it will be a step closer to perfect accuracy. If you want to make the tables LESS accurate by reverting my changes, I can't stop you; I went out of my way to improve the data, but if that generous act is not appreciated, I'm fine not bothering. [[User:Xelrog T. Apocalypse|- Xelrog T. Apocalypse]] ([[User talk:Xelrog T. Apocalypse|talk]]) 18:14, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

== Is corocoro also a forbidden source? ==

[http://i.imgur.com/RDIolxQ.jpg]

Because if it was, my edit was valid. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 15:43, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
:Can you read Japanese? If not, you're relying on Serebii's interpretation of what that scan says. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:48, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
::No, I can't. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:50, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

== M09 ==

Hello I would like to ask for a staff member's opinion on this. Frozen Fennec reverted me when I changed "most likely" to "may be" and said that "most likely" is fine, I think having "most" and "likely" makes those points too certain and I don't see what harm there would be in changing "most likely" to "may be". Please could you offer some input thanks[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 14:39, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
:We try to avoid personal opinions, which is what "most likely" is. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:18, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
::Thank you, I saw that you changed it.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 19:55, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

==New editor==
[[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pokerman118933]] This new editor is spamming some strange link. Two of his eduts are hidden. Is this vandalism? And by the way, on the talkpage for [[FireRed and LeafGreen]] I posted a question but I am unsure if it belongs there. {{unsigned|RubyLeafGreenCrystal}}
:The user was dealt with.
:It seems okay.
:Also, please use the "+" button at the top of the page, next to "edit this page", to create a new section on a talk page, don't just put it at the end of someone else's section. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 09:51, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

== Re:Anime moves ==

I'm sorry if I seemed arrogant or whatever by adding that {{m|Thunder Wave}} use. However, I would like to assure you that I've learned my lesson: I don't add too ambiguous moves without them being confirmed anymore. However, this case wasn't ambiguous at all in my mind: the animation used for the move was identical to the one used in the {{series|XY}}, you can check it out yourself if you want. A couple other users have also already left agreeing opinions to T-Wave's talk page. Do you give me the permission to restore my edit? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:30, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

== Type: Null at level 5. ==

(Without double-checking anything but our breeding page) Eggs hatch at level 1

Doesn't that prove my point? Other than Cosmog (who's obtained at level 5), everything that evolves can be bred and hatched, which makes Type: Null the only unevolved Pokemon unobtainable at level 5. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:34, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
:So you mean by leveling up... That's not what obtainable should mean. And even if you find the right word, having to level up Pokemon makes it unnotable. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:19, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
::There is clearly a misunderstanding here. What exactly do you think I'm trying to say? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 18:16, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
:::That's exactly what I said from the start... If Sandygast can be "obtained at level 5", then either it can be encountered in the wild and caught at level 5, or it can hatch at level 5. Neither is true. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:30, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
::::I don't think the point is notable either, but perhaps what Unowninator intended was more like "the player can/cannot legitimately possess it at level 5". [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:33, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
::::: ^ Yep, that's exactly what I meant. Thanks for explaining Pumpkinking. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 23:03, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
::::::In that case, my response here was understanding it just fine. You can only have Sandygast at level 5 after leveling it up, which makes it unnotable. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:26, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
:::::::What the hell does that have to do with anything? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 04:02, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
::::::::"You cannot legitimately possess it at level 5" is wildly aribtrary. If you can possess everything else at level 5 by leveling up but you can't possess Null lower than level 40, then why don't we just level up further and make it level 39, or ''everything'' from 1 to 39?
::::::::And why do we stop before Null's obtainable level? If we just go farther, then everything can be possessed at level 40-100. Yay?
::::::::Your line (and method) is arbitrary, formed to exclude Type: Null for no actually-good reason, it probably just "seems" right. It's not notable. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:17, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::My reason was little cup, but since it doesn't really exist, why not bring up the level 40 thing? If that isn't notable, then why are these facts?
Of all the Pokémon that evolve by leveling up, Hydreigon evolves from its pre-evolution later than any other Pokémon, at level 64.
Out of all Pokémon that evolve by a set level, Larvesta evolves later than any other unevolved Pokémon, at level 59.
:::::::::[[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 02:53, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
::::::::::I don't know what "the level 40 thing" is supposed to be. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:21, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
{{indent}} Basically of all unevolved Pokemon, it is obtained at the highest level. Everything else can be lower than 39, but Type: Null can only be at level 40 minimum because it can't breed. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 15:34, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
:Then just phrase it like that instead of going through a bunch of hoops to overcomplicate it. Something like ''Of all unevolved Pokémon, Type: Null has the highest minimum level at which it can be legitimately possessed: level 40'' seems, in my mind, to be more notable than dancing around the topic by bringing up Cosmog and level 5. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:41, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
::Hang on, Unowninator, just because I said I ''personally'' think it's more notable than what you had before, doesn't mean Tiddlywinks will decide it's notable ''enough'' to keep. It's probably best to wait to add it until they approve/disapprove it. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:32, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
::: [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Type:_Null_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&curid=215674&diff=2682162&oldid=2681962 *extreme facepalm*] Why does nobody understand me? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 06:18, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

== Video ==

I do not want to say it but if you pause at 0:25 of the video, it looks sha__. [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 04:28, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
:I still don't understand. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:34, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
::You will see a white menu in the bottom right corner. You know why now? [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 04:39, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
:::I see it. Please don't assume I can read your mind and keep asking me to guess. If you can't explain yourself, I won't understand. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:42, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
All right. I'll just ask if a white menu is possible on a gameboy. [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 04:46, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
And if not, where can one be found on a gameboy game. [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 04:48, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
:I think they're trying to censor the word "shady" for some reason, and are pointing out that the video is taken of an emulated game (you can see a Windows right-click menu briefly at the point they mentioned). [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:49, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

== Direct linking ==

Re: your discussion with Nescientist and the staff ruling that came out of it: Can you please have a word with FinnishPokeFan95? As you can see in their contributions history, they are edit warring on Berry pages to remove the redirect even though (as far as I understand it?) the outcome of that conversation was that those links should be redirects. Thanks. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:26, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
:My understanding is that there were two users seriously discussing, not that there was me and a staff member and a staff ruling. (However, there's reasons and arguments, and there's a policy to avoid edit warring, and a will to avoid useless edits.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:15, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
::When Tiddlywinks said they had been "advised" on the matter, I assumed it was from higher-up staff members, but yeah, perhaps I misinterpreted that. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:30, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

== Insignificant minor edits ==

(I have asked on SnorlaxMonster's talk page but gotten no replies, so...)
I wonder if these minor edits are necessary: [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dragon_Scale&diff=prev&oldid=2700623 link 1], [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dragon_Memory&diff=prev&oldid=2700622 link 2], [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dragon_Fang&diff=prev&oldid=2700621 link 3]. They don't make any difference when you view them on the page. Thanks. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 22:36, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
:Sorry, I missed this before.
:"Necessary"? No. Personally, they are something I'd probably do myself if I was thinking about it while already doing something on the page.
:Your implication is that it should be stopped. If it was absolutely all someone was focused on, I personally ''would'' ask them to find more substantial edits to make (and have in some cases in the past). While at this particular moment it seems like GrammarFreak01 has done relatively a lot of that sort of edit in the past day, that doesn't seem to consistently be the case so strongly previously. It's still not ideal, but... For what it's worth, I can tell you that, as of yet, it doesn't seem to be weighing too heavily on anyone's mind on staff. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:56, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
::I see. I know it's supposed to do that while you are editing something else on the page, and not just specifically editing this part only. I remembered this sort of insignificant edits will clogged up the Recent Changes or something else. Since there's no worries about that, I guess I don't mind.
::Might as well ask this now also. Are the Rotom Adventures quotes needed to be added to the Rotom Pokédex page? ([[User:Ruixiang95/Rotom Pokédex/Quotes]]) — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 04:15, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
:::Just to be sure I'm not missing something, you're talking about the Rotom from the Pokemon Adventures manga?
:::As far as I know, we don't do any quotes for anything but games. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:29, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
::::Nope, Video games. The message they show on the bottom screen as you travel in Alola. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 04:39, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
:::::Oh, just everything else beyond the dex stuff. I specifically refrained from that (or even adding an incomplete template) previously myself because I don't think it's necessary. Rotom's dialogue is a little bit like a walkthrough, I don't think it's worth much or adds much. And it's something for practically ''everywhere'', it'd be pretty huge. And then figuring out for ''each'' of those exactly when it occurs would be a huge pain too. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:46, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

== Archive sandbox ==

Will you please archive the [[Bulbapedia:Sandbox|sandbox]]? The maximum number of sections should be 60. [[User:SaturnMario|SaturnMario]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|his talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|his contributions]] 22:37, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
:What do you mean the max should be 60? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:47, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
::The ones including sub-sections. [[User:SaturnMario|SaturnMario]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|his talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|his contributions]] 23:37, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
:::That's not what I asked. I asked '''why''' you say it should be the max. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:40, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
::::I actually agree. There's so much text & such on the sandbox that it causes my browser to freeze, so I can't even use it. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 21:03, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

== That Rhydon thing. ==

How the hell is it excluding anything? The Psychic type thing excludes all other types, so why is that fine but not this? (I suppose I could just say highest attack of everything compatible with Eviolite, but I think the other way's better...) [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 21:02, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
:How is it excluding anything, you ask? The phrase "non-fully evolved" quite explicitly excludes fully evolved Pokemon. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:13, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
::And Psychic types doesn't exclude all other types? I still think it's good trivia. Can we at least reword it? (Unfortunately, my best idea is using Eviolite compatibility) [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 21:25, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
:::Where do we draw the line? We've easily had "all but Legendaries and Mythicals", "all except Mega Evolutions", (all but Legendaries, Mythicals, and Megas; only Megas; only Legendaries and Mythicals...) "all starters", your "Eviolite users"...and that's just off the top of my head, there's probably several other "interesting" sets that have been on pages and plenty more beyond that if we just decided that anyone who wanted to could make up a set.
:::Let's also consider each of those sets I mentioned above: would it be okay to start talking about only the Fairy-types, Normal-types, etc among each of those groups?
:::What I'm getting at is that it's a lot of stuff, and all that just balloons. More than anything, it's hard enough keeping track of two broad categories (overall and by type)... (I'm pretty sure that when people started updating the best/worst trivia to account for Gen VII, they didn't pay any attention to the Pokemon that used to be "highest" or "lowest" and had now lost that status, thereby leaving old/incorrect trivia on a number of pages.) We don't need to worry about updating stats for a dozen different categories.
:::Even if you want to say, "Well, I think these four or five or so categories are okay and we won't allow ''anything'' else", it can be ''very'' hard to '''remember''' whether what someone added is actually in one of those categories, without referring to somewhere where it would have been stated out. Beyond that, it's not like there's a simple way to "agree" on which X categories we should have, either.
:::The short version is: we don't need a bunch of trouble for allowing all sorts of categories. We should keep it simple, and the most basic categories are just overall and by type. Easy to remember, easy to deal with... It's plenty. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:45, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

== Topps ==

Hi not trying to start an edit war but nowhere on the page does it describe all of the different printings. [[User:Samcarano|Samcarano]] ([[User talk:Samcarano|talk]]) 19:29, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
:What's not described? The logo colors are described. The finish is described.
:I was also just about ready to ask on your talk page: To me, it seems like the "2nd edition" set with a smooth finish that you described could easily fit the same case as what you called the "rogue" S1 set. Is there particular reason you think otherwise? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:32, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
::Everything is stated now but the topps logos and the 5th foil print were not stated initially. yes it could be called rogue as it was similarly not released in the U.S. but was produced here(at least as far as I can tell). So that terminology applies here as well. There are also packs of 5 and 8 for both logo colors. I also put in which set the promo was part of. [[User:Samcarano|Samcarano]] ([[User talk:Samcarano|talk]]) 19:51, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
Hey I noticed some file names for the johto series 1 sticker set that were already uploaded are incorrect. 40 and 44 are swapped in the file name. I am unaware of how to fix this.[[User:Samcarano|Samcarano]] ([[User talk:Samcarano|talk]]) 01:11, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
:That's interesting. I couldn't say why that happened or why I never noticed (and someone else had to fix it later on apparently)...
:Anyway, on the Archives, you can put the Archives' {{template|move}} template on the page so the staff there will know and be able to move it.
:As a note also, if you notice any images that are relatively low quality, like [[:File:Topps Johto 1 S45.png|Topps Johto 1 S45.png]], we'd be very happy if you are also able/willing to upload higher quality scans of those. Thanks! [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:51, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
::Yes, I am willing to upload any scans of my cards. Do you have any pointers on how to spot lower quality scans? I know file size can usually be an indication but I also know that png images can be compressed with little loss.[[User:Samcarano|Samcarano]] ([[User talk:Samcarano|talk]]) 02:19, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
:::I don't think images that are that colorful can be compressed incredibly much, at least not anywhere near the size of images with such lower resolution. It might be a bit tedious, but that means you could just check [[A:Category:Collectible cards|Category:Collectible cards]], find where the Topps cards start, and just check for small sizes.
:::You can also just check the user contributions of any person who you noticed has uploaded at least one LQ image. (It's a bit weird so you may not have noticed, but if you follow the link for S45/Steelix above and click "view on a shared repository" at the top of the page, it'll take you to the proper page on the Archives. On the Archives, you can see the user who uploaded it, LHakaLH in this case, and "contribs" will show their uploads and stuff.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:31, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

== some questions ==

hi. i'm not sure if you are the correct person to ask, but may i know how often does the admins reviews the articles in [[:Category:Candidates_for_moving]], and what is the procedure for moving of pages for admins? I suggested the renaming of [[List of Pokémon by New Unova Pokédex number]] to [[List of Pokémon by Unova Pokédex number (Black 2 and White 2)]] around 1.5 years ago. However, it had not been moved despite the hoenn and alola dex being moved to the format of "List of Pokémon by XXX Pokédex number (game)]]". I was told that admins will decide on the move after discussions, but most of the articles in [[:Category:Candidates_for_moving]] have no discussion at all, or the discussion only consist of the person who suggested it. Those that do have replies won't even last 5 people commenting on it. And the number of talk pages with the admins involved in the discussion is very minimum. It seems that
most of the pages in that category are just sitting there for months with no signs of any work to move or remove them from the page. May i have some enlightenment about the procedure, such as if the admins actually have their own private discussions about those pages, just that we won't know about it? i previously bring this up [[Talk:List of Pokémon by Alola Pokédex number (Sun and Moon)#rename|
on this talk page too]]. thank you for reading. If this is not the correct platform, please let me know the proper channel to enquire about it. Thank you again. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] ([[User talk:Pokeant|talk]]) 07:52, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
:To be honest, I believe discussion happens in an EB-exclusive venue, so I don't really know much to tell you myself about what kind of impetus there is or how it plays out or what.
:If you're worried about a particular page, it may be best to contact someone directly. That "a particular page" part may be important; I would suggest some moderation, not getting excited and asking for ''everything'' to be resolved at once. =P [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:01, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
::Thank you. the particular page is "[[List of Pokémon by New Unova Pokédex number]]". I feel that with the hoenn dex and alola dex being moved, i do not see the reason for the unova dex to not be moved to be consistent with the hoenn/alola dex page. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] ([[User talk:Pokeant|talk]]) 03:00, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

== My confusion in regards to Grassy Terrain... ==

If Grassy Terrain is in effect, '''unless the target is in the semi-invulnerable turn of a move such as Dig''' or Dive, the power of Bulldoze, Earthquake, and Magnitude is halved (even if the user or the target is not grounded).

So basically, if I use Earthquake on something that used Dig, does it do a total of x1 damage (×1/2 from Grassy Terrain, ×2 from using Dig), or is Grassy Terrain's effect ignored when the Pokémon uses Dig, thus ×2? Does my question make sense?[[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 22:38, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
:The "×1/2 from Grassy Terrain" that you mention, you're supposing that comes from the sentence you've posted at the start? If so, that very sentence says that that 1/2 only is in effect IF the target is NOT using a move such as Dig. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:47, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
::Okay, so the 1/2 is ignored and the total is ×2. I was just checking. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 22:54, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

== Necrozma DM DW ==

In Megalo Tower we have an box like this with Ultra Necrozma, and i think this is more convencional since Necrozma is not catchable and need to be defeated during this battles. [[User:Pika fanatic|Pika fanatic]] ([[User talk:Pika fanatic|talk]]) January 27, 00:03 (UTC)
:I fixed it. We do full battle templates for Trainers. Totem Pokemon get that treatment in Gen VII because the trials take the place of Gyms, but that's not what Necrozma is. If it's just part of the storyline, it doesn't warrant that. Otherwise it'd entail a '''lot''' more changes beyond just Necrozma. (This may be worth discussing—but my page isn't really the place for that). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:47, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

== BW142 ==

Could you please explain your edit to [[BW142]]? A Trainer can only carry six Pokémon at a time and Ash left more than six (Unfezant, Oshawott, Pignite, Snivy, Scraggy, Leavanny, Palpitoad, Boldore, Krookodile, and Charizard) at Oak's Laboratory. The "On hand" section on anime character pages always features up to six Pokémon. We use "In rotation" when Trainers are shown using more than six Pokémon. For reference, see the pages of May, Ursula, Nando, Virgil... --[[User:Mikuri|'''Mi''']][[User talk: Mikuri|'''ku''']][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|'''ri''']] 23:54, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
:I agree that's a better phrasing, so I've revised the page in hopes of it being able to stand as a compromise. I hadn't thought of the possibility of using "in rotation"; thanks for the suggestion. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:58, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
::I'm sorry, Mikuri. I tried to check what was going on a bit but in the mix I seem to have missed/forgotten the part where you said Ash left more than six Pokemon with Oak. I thought your issue was that he had fewer than six Pokemon "on hand".
::That said, looking farther back this time, I really don't see any problem at all with Pumpkinking's original edit. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:08, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

== Rotom Power Bag Pocket ==

Do you know anyone who could add the Rotom Power as a pocket for the bag? On my userpage are samples of the item pages for Rotom Powers, but default to the Z-crystals pocket since Rotom powers aren't part of the template yet. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 03:16, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
:I received sprites for the pockets, so I can make it work soon. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:42, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

== Pokemon species trivia ==

Can trivia about a Pokemon species ever be notable if it's not unique? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 02:11, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
:As a rule, it is not. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:42, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
::For example, does that mean the trivia about Dugtrio being immune to telekinesis needs to be deleted because mega Gengar is also immune to it? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:21, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
:::Done. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:15, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

== Value of truth ==

I don't want to derail other discussions, so I'm taking this here. I'm alarmed by the attitude you've seemed to have on talk pages such as [[Talk:Team Skull Grunt (Trainer class)]] and [[Talk:Pokémon Communication Center]] in which you apparently don't think it's necessary to correct something false if it's something you consider minor. Phrases like "who really cares" and "what exactly is hurt" seem, in my mind, to be an effort to discourage people from trying to present the most truthful possible information. In my mind, these are plain-as-day cases of inarguably false information (niche cases, granted, but inarguably false nonetheless), and you seem actively interested in discouraging the correction of them.

For that reason, I wanted to directly ask: am I misinterpreting you, or do you really not think truth is an important value for Bulbapedia? If the latter, is that also the official staff position? If so, I'm not sure I can continue to feel comfortable participating in an encyclopedia if it isn't trying to be true. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:21, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
:You're taking it much too dramatically.
:I'm just going to address the specific cases directly.
:I do not believe that there's really any point to trying to say on any page about grunts that they technically have a "Trainer class" that is their team name. (Note that I am not saying we should have "Team Skull Grunt (Trainer class)". I am not, either, saying we shouldn't, though. I'm personally leaving it for further comment, because, in short, things are ''alright'' as they are, I'm fine just waiting and focusing my own attention on other things.) The only place I think it would be worth communicating that there is no "Team Skull Grunt" Trainer class would be if we had a technical page that touched on the Trainer data in the ROM or something. The argument I made that you express concern about above was against your suggestion to merge grunts' info into team TC pages—that's all.
:I do not consider an implication that the GS Ball is only available in Crystal's VC version a falsehood at all. You cannot obtain the GS Ball solely by playing Crystal's cartridge versions. There is no falsehood communicated. That said, I also ''explicitly'' did not say that only listing the VC item was the only option. I suppose I must admit, I tried to phrase my whole comment about the GS Ball relatively delicately; so let me attempt to make clear here that what I meant was: I do not think it is right for us to mention (or worry about) the cartridge GS Ball in the template, and I '''disfavor''' some extra note nearby (but it is still an '''option'''). To put it another way, the intended point was, noting the cartridge version in the template is more trouble than it's worth, but there are still solutions that we could '''add''' to the original revision before your original attempt to "fix" it. (Let's say that at least half as strongly as you are against only mentioning VC—which, again, is not the only option I entertain—I'm that strongly against any significant change to "Received from an attendant while attempting to exit after entering the [[Hall of Fame]] ([[Virtual Console]] only)" as your recent edit has done; it only hurts what is already perfectly useful.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 09:59, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
::FYI, I now [[Talk:Pokémon Communication Center#Event items|do not think]] that there is any real reason to add any note about the cartridge event. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:59, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

== I brought it to the guy's talk page to avoid an edit war, but it's been over a week. ==

I'm talking about [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pokk%C3%A9n_Tournament&diff=2741661&oldid=2740232 this edit], specifically the release date. I even added the hidden text, but [[User:Akurochan]] flat out ignores it without even saying why. I asked him on [[User talk:Akurochan# Why did you keep changing Aegislash's release date?|his talk page]], but he hasn't even been on the site in over a week. What else am I allowed to do? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 22:53, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
:Two questions.
:1) What's your time zone? And do you remember when exactly you downloaded it?
:2) I don't know Pokken, so just to be sure, when you said you downloaded it, I suppose that means you could immediately play it (and not that it ws locked for a while still)? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:33, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
::My time-zone is EST, so it's 1:25 PM when I posted this. IIRC I was able to play it at 8:30 - 9:30 PM. It was playable immediately after the download finished. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 18:25, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
:::Japan's time is 14 hours ahead of you. It was reasonably released on the "correct" day when you downloaded it. It's fine. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:30, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
::::In other words, I have to leave it alone. Is that correct? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 18:56, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
:::::It should not be changed. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:04, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
::::::Very well, I understand now. Thanks for doing what Akurochan didn't do himself. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 19:17, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

== Own Tempo Rockruff ==

I made a correct edit to the evolution section of Own Tempo Rockruff. Why was it reverted? [[User:IFlames|IFlames]] ([[User talk:IFlames|talk]]) 03:10, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
:Note that it doesn't really make sense that you get '''Dusk''' Form at 5 AM (which is roughly ''dawn''). You're forgetting that in-game time is not the same as the real-world time (or more accurately, the 3DS clock, which also doesn't have to have ''any'' relation to real-world time). Only the in-game time matters. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:21, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

::I am currently playing UM and I can confirm the evolution takes place between 5 AM and 5:59 AM. I know it doesn't make sense but thats how it is. US is 5 PM to 5:59 PM. I strongly suggest you revert your re-edit, or if you dont believe me, try it out yourself. [[User:IFlames|IFlames]] ([[User talk:IFlames|talk]]) 03:36, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
:::Bear with me a second here... How do you know it's the 5 AM hour? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:39, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

::::Well first I saw bulbapedia saying 5PM hour. So i tried leveling up Rockruff then. But it didnt evolve. So I found a few posts on the internet saying it was the 5AM hour for UM. So then I tried it around 5:20 AM (3DS time), and it worked. Why on earth would I even lie about this or make the edit if I wasn;t sure? [[User:IFlames|IFlames]] ([[User talk:IFlames|talk]]) 03:42, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
:::::I'm not at all saying you're lying. I'm saying you're missing something.
:::::The 3DS's time is NOT the time in-game.
:::::Try this. Check the time on your 3DS. Then go to a Pokemon Center in UM and talk to the cafe owner. (He doesn't tell you the same time.)
:::::That is to say, even though your 3DS says 5 AM, it's still 5 PM in the game when you're evolving Rockruff. The page is correct. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:52, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

== "Trade" in Item Locations ==

For games where you can only obtain items through Trade, do we put down it as [[Trade]] or ''[[Trade]]''? FinnishPokéFan92 has been changing the latter back to the former, so I'm not sure which to go with now. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 01:47, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
:I personally believe that the italicized one is better because it makes it readily distinguishable from other rows (where it's actually directly obtainable in-game). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:51, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
::Agreed. I'll change them back when I find them again. Thanks. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 01:55, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
Oh yeah in the same vein, under acquisition in item pages, when an item can be found in an area more than once (but still finite), do leave just the location or do we include the number of times it can be found? (6 [[Thunderstone]]s for example can be found in [[Ultra Plant]]). [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 02:53, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
:I guess it's simple enough, I don't think a count like that is a problem. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:05, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
::If I may intrude, that would require a lot of "backtracking" so to say, as many already existing item pages lack the amount of it obtainable in every finite way, especially when talking about earlier generations. This is why I personally would oppose the idea, even if only for the sheer size of that job, but if someone is ready to do all that checking for every single existing item page, knock yourselves out. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:21, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
:::I think if it's missing, no big deal. It can be fixed sooner or later. And if it's often "later", even "much later", that's, again, not a huge deal. It's fine without, but also probably nice with a count. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:27, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

== Food Stall color ==

I don't get what you meant by that. The other Festival Plaza facilities don't share the same progression of palettes with each other. In fact, a majority of the most common ones are primarily or partially red, not blue. Plus there is nothing I've ever seen of Alola having some overarching color scheme outside the island names being colors in Hawaiian, and those four aren't applicable there, or with any of the different facility palettes.

I get keeping the descriptions of the facility palettes simple, but unless there's something in the game's code or from a guidebook that has official names for the facility colors that I'm not aware of, I just don't see what you mean by them having explicit palettes[[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 02:47, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
:Let me get the issue of the "palette" out of the way. There are actually two reasonable color "palettes" you can take from SM/USUM. The first is the simple 7 "primary" colors of ROYGBIV, as seen in [[Poké Bean]] colors and {{p|Minior}}'s forms. The second is seen in the 8 colors you can [[Festival Plaza#Dye houses|dye]] clothes in (which many [[fashion item]]s also naturally have). (Pink is the "odd man out" in the latter set; "navy blue" could be considered a parallel to "indigo" and "purple" a parallel to "violet", and all other colors have the same names.)
:Now—if we exclude the obviously Pokemon-themed colorations of some facilities—every facility's color scheme is plainly based on one of these "primary" colors...or black. The black is a huge through line, so that gets a pass. But "brown" is not part of Alola's "palette" and it's not even remotely a significant pattern with any other facilities. Calling that one facility theme "brown" is ignoring the blatant pattern that everything else fits in; it's not reasonable that just one doesn't, especially when there are plain elements of a primary color in the building's color scheme. It may be relatively subdued, but it is the most meaningful label for this. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:07, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
::That's quite an arbitrary rule to apply to this. You're just applying the standard ROYGBIV, not something unique to the Pokemon games themselves, like Floette flowers, or the island colors. Plus, unlike the island colors, which are far more prevalent in Alola (Battle Royal Dome's stage entrances, the Battle Royal Dome symbol itself, Oricorio's forms, parts of the respective Island Kahunas' clothing, the Island Guardians), there's only two seemingly solid cases of it: Minior and Poke Beans.
::As well, those two are not perfect matches for ROYGBIV. The "blue" and "indigo" Minior Forms and Poke Bean colors are closer to being cyan and blue, respectively. I checked the RGB levels of the sprites in an editing program and none of the "Indigo" ones had red levels higher than their green levels Which for Indigo the RGB levels are usually around 75,0,130. The "blue" ones were far from being dominantly blue, having a fair mix of green and blue, which shades of Cyan usually have. Not to mention the "blue" pattern bean is nearly entirely white.
::All this, along with the Pink and Navy Blue dye shops and the odd Black themed facilities throughout not fitting with the ROYGBIV palette, leads me to the conclusion that it's not nearly as concrete of a design theory as it might seem.
::In conclusion, I think that we should provide descriptions of objects and locations based on what we see, not based on our assumptions. [[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 06:44, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
:::If the games want to identify whatever shades as "blue" or "indigo" or whatever, so long as it's halfway reasonable (i.e., not "blue" for '''orange'''), that's their choice and not even something worth arguing...
:::Among the other three food stall variations, the only things that consistently match the obvious color theme are the checkers and the paneling flanking them. The first food stall variation bucks that pattern, with those parts having different colors. And, of the two parts, I think it's profoundly reasonable to focus on the checker pattern. Brown isn't remotely worth calling a color scheme, it's just wood, a ''default''. The plain design touch is the blue checkers. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:18, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
::::Ok, I'll concede, I hadn't checked what the in-game Pokedex names Minior's forms prior to now. Poke Beans also likely follow that scheme, even if it's not as solid, there's still 7 of them and they somewhat follow ROYGBIV. The same for the dye stalls; Navy Blue could just be a mistranslation of Indigo. (and I just thought of Pink being there to fully represent the Island colors alongside ROYGBIV)
::::But I still think it's quite a large leap in logic to assume that other things in-game fit that when they don't come in a set of 7 colors that resemble ROYGBIV as those three examples do. [[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 20:52, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
:::::I don't think there's a big leap of logic, but I don't think that's the only reason to choose "blue" either. Like I said, that's really the only reasonable color you can point to as the design choice ("brown" is not the design choice, it's just the foundation). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:43, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
::::::Once again, that's a very arbitrary distinction. Brown is a color just the same as blue is. I don't see what makes it different from any other color that makes it just a "foundation". Regular wooden surfaces are just as valid in real life for designing building exteriors or interiors as any painted surface. [[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 04:38, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
:::::::I really don't think this is hard. Blue is a color that the other variations have used. Brown isn't. There's simply NO good reason to choose brown uniquely here instead of blue. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:29, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

== Grant (trivia) ==

I simplified my earlier edit to include only Geodude - though Roxanne does have an Onix- in rematches that is.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 08:33, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

: What do you mean not enough Rock-type gym leaders - how many does there have to be for a comparison?[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:48, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
::Maybe 10. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:25, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

== Serrebi ==

Hi. Noticed your post on a user's page. Wnat to know, what iss tealing from Serribbi? Is it not fair use to note facts regardless of who discovered them? I am not an expert in law so it seems quite new to me (after all, I did not underatand copyright or IP rights well until a few years ago). [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 00:26, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
:It's pretty simple. Serebii has expressed that they do not allow other sites to take their information. If you find something at Serebii, you'll have to find an independent source or confirm it on your own before you can edit it here. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:29, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
::I understand. But is there any legal reason to avoid? I do not plan on posting anything from there (rarely visit it anyway), but just wondering. Does this mean research can be copyrighted? [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 01:38, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
:::As they say: I am not a lawyer. All I can say is that BP staff wouldn't long tolerate anyone continually trying to use Serebii's info here. We have no desire to antagonize them. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:48, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
::::Thanks. Did not realize there were people like that. One learns somthing new every day. [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 02:04, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

== Fossil Pages ==

Hiya! I got the individual Fossil pages on my userspace I believe are ready to be mainspaced. If you deem they are, how would we go about this procedure with the current X and Y Fossils format? [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 01:27, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
:Hey. I'd like to follow-up on this. I still think splitting the Fossil pages is a good idea, following the recent changes to item pages and making 'em consistent. They also have changed characteristics over the gens and I believe the template makes info easier to grasp without having to read through the write-ups in the current fossil pages.
:I've updated them for Let's Go. Please take a look see at my userspace. Thanks! [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 23:38, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
::On another note, could you delete the pages under "mainspaced pages" in my userspace? The content in them have already been transferred to mainspace and no longer have use. Thanks again. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 23:41, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
:::I don't know if I lost this before or what... Anyways, I'll see what other staff think and/or look at them tomorrow.
:::(Also, this is pretty far up my page (with little really unique substance here). It would have been simpler to just reinitiate in a new section.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:07, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

== untitled ==
Stick to your pages and I'll stick to mine. Thanks. {{unsigned|Vyper3006}}
:This does not constitute a discussion. I await any substance. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:05, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

You have it.

https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPoQ7QU8fR_pFFfBvm488IP_N3sMzgzFflr2t9C

Why are you saying it isn't a real card?

== List of moves and abilities affecting abilities ==

You undid my edit, saying that it was "already mentioned". Where was it already mentioned? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:15, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
:Where you put it before and where I removed those tables, easily visible if you look at the diff. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:30, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
::You only told me not to put the tables above the list of abilities, so I re-added them below the list of abilities. Why can't I have the tables there? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:02, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
:::I'm confused. Do you or do you not realize that the things you want to add are currently on the page already? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:40, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
::::I realized just now. Oh well. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 02:46, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

== Unacceptable User Name chain ==

An array of users named after Communists has just shown up. Might want to nip this in the bud.--[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 02:07, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

== Types and "metagame" information ==

Why is information about "the metagame" (stuff like "this type is good when combined with this other type") allowed on the pages about types but nowhere else? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:27, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

== Thunder wave ==

When I added that trivia (or trivium or whatever), I meant thunder wave was the only status move whose immunities ''behave according to the type chart''. You know, the one that looks like this.
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! style="background:#{{normal color}}" | {{ic|Normal}}
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! style="background:#{{flying color}}" | {{ic|Flying}}
! style="background:#{{poison color}}" | {{ic|Poison}}
! style="background:#{{ground color}}" | {{ic|Ground}}
! style="background:#{{rock color}}" | {{ic|Rock}}
! style="background:#{{bug color}}" | {{ic|Bug}}
! style="background:#{{ghost color}}" | {{ic|Ghost}}
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | {{ic|Steel}}
! style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{ic|Fire}}
! style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{ic|Water}}
! style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{ic|Grass}}
! style="background:#{{electric color}}" | {{ic|Electric}}
! style="background:#{{psychic color}}" | {{ic|Psychic}}
! style="background:#{{ice color}}" | {{ic|Ice}}
! style="background:#{{dragon color}}" | {{ic|Dragon}}
! style="background:#{{dark color}}" | {{ic|Dark}}
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | {{ic|Fairy}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"
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| colspan="20" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" | These matchups are suitable for {{color2|000|Generation VI}} onward.
|}According to that chart, grass and electric are not immune to anything, so the fact that stun spore couldn't hit them had to be ''programmed separately.'' What I was trying to say earlier was that thunder wave was the only status move that ''behaves according to this chart'' and was not ''programmed separately.'' Do you understand what I'm trying to say now? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:27, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
:I still don't think it's so important a difference that it's worth any trivia. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:52, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

== Klinklang ==

Hello. On the page for Klinklang, you removed my trivia because it was noticeable. Noticeable Trivia does appear a fair bit on Bulbapedia and if you looked at the Gen 5 Sprites, it isn't that obvious. I'm just wondering why it was removed as such. Thanks. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 15:33, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
:We just don't list things already visible on the page. That's just repetitive, when anyone can see it if they care. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:20, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

== How? ==

Seriously, how did you not see the poor English and punctuation in [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Unnamed_island_(EP098)&diff=prev&oldid=2768100 these] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Cinnabar_Island&diff=prev&oldid=2768111 edits]? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:47, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
:What do those matter? It's not at all unintelligible. The changes it seems you've now made are minor. That's not even remotely a basis for outright rejection. If you don't want to fix it, leave it alone, you can't revert it just because it bugs you a bit. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:01, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
::I reverted those because I wasn't sure what the original editor was trying to communicate due to the poor English, and I feared that any changes I made would ruin the intended meaning. For example, with the second diff, it mentions a "Gyarados hot spring tap". Since I didn't see that episode, I didn't know if the Gyarados was a typo, or if the hot spring tap was supposed to be shaped like a Gyarados, or if there was a missing key word. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:25, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
:::That's just one (arguable) sentence. Not remotely warranting wholesale reversion. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:09, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
::::Like I said, one change could've ruined the whole meaning the user was trying to communicate, and I couldn't leave it like that. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:14, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
:::::...That doesn't mean reverting the whole thing was right. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:16, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
::::::Well, what was I supposed to do? And yes, I know that I did "improvements" after you undid my reversion, but I'm still not confident that was what the user was trying to say. It was that confusing to me. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:17, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
:::::::You can try talking. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:16, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
::::::::Kinda hard to do that now that the user thinks I'm a racist. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:31, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::As far as I'm concerned, that's just an excuse to give up. ...Don't. (Also, that is not how I read their message.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:19, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

== Flavor Page ==

I'm relatively new to editing wikis, so I'm not sure if I ought to "...discuss this one first" {{ut|Tiddlywinks|here on your talk page}}, or on the Flavor article's [[Talk:Flavor|talk page]], but I figured I'd start here to give myself a better chance of being sure that you read this and don't accidentally miss it.

My main issue with the [[Flavor|Flavor page]] as it stands now is that the {{DL|Flavor|List_of_Apricorns_by_flavor|Apricorn section}} has the flavors listed in the "correct" order (that being Spicy, Sour, Dry, Bitter, and Sweet) while the page's intro, flavor preference table, Contest/Pokéathlon table, and the berry tables for gens III, IV, and e-Reader all have the flavors listed in the following order: Spicy (+Atk), Dry (+SpA), Sweet (+Spe), Bitter (+SpD), and Sour (+Def) [so not quite half-and-half, like I first thought - that's my bad].

This is, to me, pretty unintuitive, since stats are most always ordered HP (N/A here), Atk, Def, SpA, SpD, and Spe. I was actually looking at the flavor page for more info about {{cat|Berries_that_may_cause_confusion|confusion berries}} and ended up super confused (hah, didn't even mean for that silly little joke to happen) for a moment because of the ordering of the flavors (though that may just be indicative of ignorance on my part). Because 6/7 sections have the flavors ordered in the "weird" way, I'm beginning to think that there's probably a reason for it. If there is and I'm missing it, then please do let me know! However, even if that were to be the case, I, personally, still think that ordering the flavors to match with the traditional order of stats would be more beneficial overall. It makes things easier for dumb-dumbs like me, so that we don't have to go to {{DL|Nature|Stat-focused_table|an entirely different page}} in order to figure out what the heck is going on.

And, just on the off chance that you're considering it, there's no need to copy-paste that table onto the Flavor page - the current table is totally fine for its page (though I certainly wouldn't complain if I could reinstate my edited version of it!), since it's more focused on the flavors themselves, rather than the increase and decrease of stats that come along with most natures. At the very least, we ought to make all seven sections consistent, one way or the other.

Thanks!

<nowiki>~</nowiki>[[User:Mimikyuuuuuuu|Mimikyuuuuuuu]] ([[User talk:Mimikyuuuuuuu|talk]]) 05:12, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
:First things first, there is only one place on that page where any of those basic stats is mentioned at all ("Attack"). On the rest of the page, no one will be able to tell what stat each flavor corresponds to without a whole bunch of cross-referencing (or memorization). So the proposition that an "incorrect" order might be any particular problem is fairly dubious.
:FYI, it was also kind of a problem that you didn't change all of the tables. (I don't mean to say that it's okay for you to make the change if you do everything up "right".)
:My primary concern about the "proper" order was that I'd like to know what the games actually do. And {{pkmn|Contest}} categories are listed in the order Cool Beauty Cute Smart Tough, just as the second table currently on the page shows. IMO this is a fine order since Contests are pretty strongly linked with the flavors (at least stronger than anything else). There doesn't seem to be any real consistency in other things, like the stat order when viewing a [[Pokéblock]], the [[List of items by index number (Generation VII)|default order]] of the [[Apricorn]]s, the [[performance]] stat order...
:Given that general inconsistency, it may be reasonable to default to the order of basic stats. But personally, I don't think it's that huge a deal, either.
:(FYI, you can usually make comments on a mainspace talk page first. It's much easier for other people to contribute opinions there. And people will generally pay some attention...especially if they've explicitly suggested the talk page. But even if you don't seem to get a resonse, you can always make a short comment on the person's user talk page to direct their attention to the talk page you commented on.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:13, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

==Alola Dex in Ultras Sun and Moon==
Hey there. I need your help with something. Can you add this to the Pokémon Infobox so I can add the dex numbers on the Pokémon that appeared in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon?: a2dex And maybe add a category like this? Category:Pokémon in the Alola Pokédex in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon. Kinda like how you did in Pokémon Black 2 and White 2. [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 15:59, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
:As we've told a number of people who have asked in other places, we are considering moving the 'dex numbers out of the infobox. As you can see on {{p|Zubat}}'s page, its infobox is already very well packed with the 'dex numbers. Trying to make a new format so we can add another could be very complex, especially with the more or less random nature of which 'dex numbers each Pokemon has. We think that putting that info somewhere else may be better. There still has not been a decision on the matter. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:10, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

== Quotes ==

I'm planning to redo all the quotes for characters in core series games (I have nothing to do), while filling out any missing quotes. I just wanted to check a few things.
*Do references to other characters and items requires linking to the articles; the names for the characters or items aren't directly stated ([[Special:Diff/2771756|example]])?
*Do quotes in "scream" speech bubbles need to be bolded? ([[Special:Diff/2771753|example - first line in USUM section]]: "This is excellent! Exciting, even...")
*For battles, are "Before battling, Upon being defeated, After being defeated, If the player is defeated" the correct terms to use? (I think I previously discussed with you before, but another admin sometimes changed the "Upon being defeated" back to "Being defeated".)
Are do these doesn't really matter at all? (I doubt anybody pays attention to the quotes section) Thanks. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 09:04, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
:I'm not sure about linking indirect references. Right now...I suppose if it were me, I wouldn't remove them but I also don't know if I would be motivated to add them. (Very possibly, if I were specifically looking at something, I might realize that the links are a good idea; or possibly the opposite. Right now, though, I'm just not sure.)
:Personally I don't like bold for screaming. It's never come across like it was actually supposed to be screaming to me.
:I do prefer that set, with the exception that "if the player is defeated" is unnecessary since the first half already entirely implies that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:00, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

== Cute Charm ==

The sentence, "The set of possible values depends on the gender of the Pokémon with Cute Charm, and if the Pokémon with Cute Charm is female, the wild Pokémon's gender ratio." looked kind of weird and I thought it had a grammar error. It looked like it was trying to say something like "depends on the gender of the Pokemon, whether the Pokemon with Cute Charm is female, and the wild Pokemon's gender ratio." Can we possibly make it more clear and obvious that it isn't a grammar error? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 03:04, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
:Fixed. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:08, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
::Okay thanks. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 14:55, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

== The Ash's Charizard gender debate, and the reason I ceased participation on it ==

Force Fire said this when I contacted them(my notes added to show my thought process reading this):

"First of all, Dennou is not a former staff member, he is still a senior administrator"

My mistake.

"Secondly, you need to stop going around like you have some sort of authority"

I know that and neither want nor care for authority on this site, nor have I been actively attempting to inflect such....Passion for rules =/= projecting authority or seniority unless you are assuming bad faith/intent on my end...

"Thirdly, just because I've been very strict on anything gender related, doesn't mean I'm going to say "no" every single time"

I'd like an example of them saying yes on non-Force Fire-written and mandated gender policy-based evidence, but they're right in a way).

"There is actual legitimate evidence/source for Dennou's claim"

Tomioka is invoking Word of God like JK Rowling retconned a Jewish Student into Hogwarts despite wizards and witches having no prior evidence of organized religion besides the occasional "my God"...that's how
Word of God works, which this echoes IMO.

"Tomioka is an actual writer for the show, so he probably knows more and probably has control over how he wants characters to be portrayed"

Does he have authority over other anime staff? Is he the one who OKs final decisions? I don't know if this is true or if Force Fire is assuming this (And if so, based on what)?.

"Tracy West novelisations is not written by a writer from the (Japanese) show. There's a big difference"

Yeah, it was a bad, rather sarcastically-motivated example in hindsight)

...I feel bad for ever entering into it based on a big red warning label on the top of the talkpage...Am I supposed to feel ashamed for even trying to quote policy? Did it really come off as bossing people around in a Brainy Smurf-esque way via poor wording? Or did I catch Force Fire in a bad mood/at a bad time...can you sort this out my confusion/shame? --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 02:34, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
:ForceFire can answer best for ForceFire, as I rule I don't like to speak for others.
:I think keeping in mind the possibility that you might be wrong is a way not to sound too bossy. If there's one thing I hate, it's being wrong. So I try to ask myself what I'm overlooking; it can be a bitter pill, but I like the other option less. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:24, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
::I'm not asking you to speak for ForceFire:I'm asking if I should feel ashamed for even discussing the matter if I'm not someone important enough. And just cause I report rulebreaks doesn't mean I think I'm a cop, judge, jury or executioner:At best I'm a tipster. --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 12:52, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
:::You asked if Force Fire was in a bad mood. I do not know that. (And I'm not going to just ask and be a relay.)
:::I'm not certain where you get the idea that only "important" people can discuss any particular thing on the wiki or whatever.
:::But generally I would not say you should feel bad. That probably won't really ease anything, but it may help move past it. (Which isn't to say there shouldn't be anything that can be learned from the matter.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:43, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
::::That was meant to be rhetorical. I'm sorry for that not being worded in such a way.
::::It does seem that some people, like Lady Ariel, Pumpkinking, Playerking and FinnishPokémonfan get a lot more "freebies" regarding importance and/or extra rulebreaks, so I tend to feel that they are given special treatment due to edit count despite their lack of staff status and/or serial troublemaking.
::::That's what I needed to hear. I will rejoin the discussion now that my head's clear. --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 22:42, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
:::::If you're comparing (contrasting, rather, I suppose) those users to yourself, no one on staff has gone to your user talk page about anything for, it looks like, very nearly a whole 3 years. You're not in any special trouble about anything. (...To the extent of my knowledge. Which is mainly just a paranoid disclaimer.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:40, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

== Smogon and fansite rulings ==

If Showdown(created, owned and maintained by Smogon) isn't a reliable source(Though I think it should be, but Verlisify fans/sympathizers run this site and Serebii, methinks), why is Smogon OK for some reason? They're one and the same, and they cross-reference each other. And have they given permission to use their info? Or is it a case of petty rivalry based on perceived betrayal(s) and flimsy accusations between webmasters that lead to digital Iron Curtains like with Serebii and PokéBeach(That needs to end...That was how many years ago? Talent gets moved around all the time...), and no permission is given/received between them and us? Or should I ask EB/Archaic(To see if he has an old, unnecessary grudge with Smogon's owner, as well)for a more concrete status of Smogon/Showdown? --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 03:16, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
:Look. If you're gonna come to my talk page with your mind already set against us like this and just being antagonistic, I'm not gonna be inclined to give you any remotely substantive response.
:Have a good day. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:16, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
::I apologize for that rant...I had just seen Avengers:Infinity War earlier this week, and it made me...emotional, to say the least. I would like to know why Smogon is a valid source but Showdown isn't, though. ::Again, sorry for that. --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 01:44, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
:::Source code about source code is a step beyond what we're comfortable with trusting. Put simply, Showdown's accuracy always has to be couched in a caveat. Only the game can truly be trusted to perfectly represent the game. Showdown has had to correct mistakes, and we can't necessarily say where remaining ones are or aren't. It's one thing to look at the ''game'' and say, see, because of this, this is how that works; it's another thing to look at Showdown and say, well, Showdown says this—and chances are ''pretty good'' it's right. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:03, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

== Re: {{m|Air Cutter}} trivia ==

Sorry if my edit summary was unclear. What I meant was, since there are no Triple Battles in Generation VII (set in Alola), Flying-type attacks introduced in that generation can't hit non-adjacent Pokémon (since there are none). So this feature of the move is no longer unique. I'm surprised the trivium hasn't already been removed. [[User:Dinosauramiable|Dinosauramiable]] ([[User talk:Dinosauramiable|talk]]) 21:57, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
:If you're talking about a feature unique to Triple Battles, you can't say anything about moves that you can't use in Triple Battles. The inverse is that you can use every other move in Triple Battles to hit non-adjacent foes, and this is not a thing you can rate true/false for new moves because (again) you can't use them in Triple Battles. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:10, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
::In that case, the trivium should specify "the only pre-Generation VII damaging Flying-type move" or something instead of "the only damaging Flying-type move"; right now it's misleading. Unless that makes it not notable... [[User:Dinosauramiable|Dinosauramiable]] ([[User talk:Dinosauramiable|talk]]) 22:14, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
:::It says "in Triple Battles", it's not rightly logical to consider moves you could never use in Triple Battles. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:19, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Fine. [[User:Dinosauramiable|Dinosauramiable]] ([[User talk:Dinosauramiable|talk]]) 22:19, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

== Ancient Trait Cards ==

Dear Tiddlywinks,

I was hoping you could answer some of my queries:

1. I have noticed that the Ancient Trait 'variety' of card renowned for its artwork style differences and ancient trait abilities (not included in other card types, though some cross over exists with some Mega Evolution cards also listed as Ancient Trait cards e.g. M Sceptile and M Rayquaza) is not listed as a TCG Pokémon card type, is there a reason for this?

2. Also should Kingdra's Primal Clash 108 and XY39 (which redirects to Primal Clash 108) cards be listed as separate cards in the Ancient Trait article due to artwork differences or not?

I look forward to hearing your response,

Thank you in advance.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 04:19, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
:I know very little about the TCG. You would do better to ask someone else. Possibly {{u|glik}}, or anyone who regularly contributes to TCG pages. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:19, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

:: Thank you for the advice.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 06:07, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

== Deletions by user:GrammarFreak01 ==

Thank you for stepping in last time, though GrammarFreak01 has again deleted all of my work leaving a useless comment behind to justify the drastic action. I was concerned maybe what I had written was to detailed, though my additions were in regards to Cameran Palace's various rooms visited in M08. I may be wrong, but I believed at the time of writing that the information was appropriate for the page dedicated to the location. GrammarFreak01 has been advised against such actions and ways to better handle any personal concerns, including contacting the user at hand; none of which has occurred. I do not wish to enter an edit war, and would like my changes reinstated, even if modified, and actions taken against the user for overstepping the mark one too many times. I do not believe the actions are of a personal nature, and have witnessed them against other users. Hope to hear shortly [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:40, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

:I did not understand the point of describing every single room inside. And what other users are you talking about? You're making a pretty serious accusation there. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:48, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
::I'm sorry for not responding sooner. I've been trying to think, and I also haven't heard much from others I've tried to ask.
::My thoughts are, I know that game locations can have pretty detailed descriptions. And the areas that were described do not seem to be accounted for any other way on the page. So it seems to me the additions might be worthwhile.
::I think the best idea may be to try to start a wider discussion about if that's needed. That may be able to inform a stronger conclusion a little while later. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:25, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
:::Hi Tiddlywinks, a bit of an update. I streamlined what I had previously put in, deeming it of value given that these rooms were visited in the movie and having looked at other location pages, such details appear to be of interest. Fantastic news, instead of deleting the new additions, user GrammarFreak01 swapped a few sentences around to give the page a better structure. I'm really happy with the result. I would still have preferred discussion with GrammarFreak01 before deleting all of the additions. I might draft a generalist checklist for any future location pages, unless we already have one of those?. Thanks for getting back to me [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 23:14, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
::::I'm not really into the anime so I don't really know much about specifics of their structure or anything. (Like I didn't know that any other anime locations went into similar details.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:45, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

== [[Shipping:List of anime shippings]] ==

So what's the inclusion criteria for that list? I notice that the content that I deleted obviously has their own articles, but other main character ships like [[PokéShipping]] and [[AmourShipping]] are not included despite having articles of their own. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:06, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
:There are two options. Just include any anime shippings like the page title fundamentally implies. Or ask someone who might know what "line" there is (and then also describe that line at the top of the page; although I can't really imagine why there should be any such line). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:19, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
::I can't imagine doing the second option since it's actually been over a year since there were any edits done to that page before me, so obviously no one's really keeping track of it. I guess I'll go with the first option when I have the time. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:27, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

== Promotions ==

Am I allowed to congratulate you on your new administrator status? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 02:53, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
:Sure. (And thanks.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:53, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
::Congratulations on your new administrator status! [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 06:03, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

== Alola League ==

Why do we not need the thing you removed? It could be helpful. {{unsigned|Elite4Alola}}
:It's already on [[Pokémon League (Alola)]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 09:36, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

== About the Spaceworld demo... ==

I want to ask you a question. How can you prove the legitimacy of the ROM? I mean, it fits everything we know about the ROM, and it fits the Honoguma picture that surfaced in 2013, but at the same time it has some some things that sound fanservice-y (Misty as an Elite Four, Red as a Gym Leader...). I'm asking because I'm curious.. --[[User:Prog rocker|Prog rocker]] ([[User talk:Prog rocker|talk]]) 03:19, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
:I don't know. It's not really my decision. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:59, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
::Okay, thank you for answering my question.--[[User:Prog rocker|Prog rocker]] ([[User talk:Prog rocker|talk]]) 21:12, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

== Individual Pokémon in Shuffle weekly cycle ==

May I know how do we plan to include where/when the Pokémon appears in the "Game location: In side games" section of each individual Pokémon for Pokémon Shuffle? I doubt we need to include the UX Stages since it's the same as the initial Main Stages. Here are a few suggestions for Special Stages:
::Daily, Special Daily, Safari etc. (With form differences):
*Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Special Daily Pokémon (First release)|Special Daily Pokémon}}'' (Winking; First release) (Prior to February 13, 2018) Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Special Daily Pokémon}}'' (Winking; Week 4 & 16) (From February 13, 2018 onward)
*Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Special Daily Pokémon (First release)|Special Daily Pokémon}}'' (Winking; First release){{tt|*|Prior to February 13, 2018}} Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Special Daily Pokémon}}'' (Winking; Week 4 & 16){{tt|*|From February 13, 2018 onward}}
*Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Special Daily Pokémon (First release)|Special Daily Pokémon}}'' (Winking; First release — Prior to February 13, 2018) Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Special Daily Pokémon}}'' (Winking; Week 4 & 16 — From February 13, 2018 onward)
::Daily, Special Daily, Safari etc. (Without form differences):
*Event: ''[[Special Stages#The Daily Pokémon (#6)|The Daily Pokémon (#6)]]'' (Prior to February 13, 2018)
*Event: ''[[Special Stages#Daily Pokémon|The Daily Pokémon (Week 7 & 19)]]'' (From February 13, 2018 onward)
::Great, Ultra, Special Challenges etc.
*Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Great Challenge|Mimikyu Appears}}'' (Prior to February 13, 2018) Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Great Challenge|Mimikyu Appears}}'' (Week 6) (From February 13, 2018 onward
Or simply just
*Event: ''{{DL|Special Stages|Great Challenge|Mimikyu Appears}}'' (Week 6)
Or do not add anything until how Pokémon Shuffle will display from now onward are fully decided? — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 10:30, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
:I hardly know anything about Shuffle off the top of my head, honestly. {{u|CycloneGU}} was into Shuffle, but they haven't been that active recently, though I think they've still kind of got an ear to Bulbapedia.
:If you want me to figure it out, I'd start real basic. Like, when you ask "how do we plan to include [...]", it sounds like there's no location info for Shuffle on at least some pages. From above, I can identify {{p|Pikachu}} and {{p|Mimikyu}}, who do seem to have location info, so I'm confused. Are you actually saying that the current info is inadequate? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:54, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
::Ah, I see. And yeah, haven't seen him around lately. Perhaps I can just leave this on his talk page until he sees it. Currently, the info already on each individual Pokémon pages are Special Stages (Event) that is prior to the update on February 13. Now, the Special Stages are pre-set for each week. I just wanted to ask if Bulbapedia wants to separate them from the two versions. But I guess I'll just leave a message at CycloneGU's talk page. Sorry for bothering. :) — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 12:59, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

== Template pages ==

Do templates usually get a move tag if they need to be tagged to be moved? This is because I have noticed that [[Template:Ash and Pikachu characters|two of]] [[Template:Pokémon Battrio characters|them]] had incorrect/incomplete page names and I wasn't sure if those types of tags go on templates aside from normal pages. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 04:07, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
:Tagging templates can easily be done wrong, so it may be simpler to just bring it up with someone on {{bp|staff}}. (Besides, template names don't really affect a whole lot, people don't really see them, so they may not even be a huge problem, depending.)
:What "should" the linked templates be titled? (And what's wrong with the current title?) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:54, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
::The Ash and Pikachu one, it was missing an amphersand sign since the actual manga contained that instead of the original ''and'' and the Battrio manga adaptation one was the one that didn't contain the whole manga title in its name for the template. It was for consistency reasons since many of the other templates containing manga characters had the full titles, such as [[Template:Let's Play the Pokémon Card Game! Sun and Moon Arc characters|this one]]. Hope this helps. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 21:23, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

== Talk page comment arrangements ==

In regards to PardescanSlowbro's talk page, I was responding to his comment: ''"I must be dim. I thought you said major appearances equals appearances where the individual was central to the plot? Some of the deleted points may need to be reinstated based solely on this definition."'' How are they going to know which comment I'm referring to if I just post my comment (''"Yes, that is ''exactly'' what I said. There's nothing about the deleted points that would indicate they fall under "major appearances". Can you give any specific examples so I know what exactly you're talking about?"'') at the end of their talk page? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:44, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
:How about...''don't'' just post ''"Yes, that is exactly what I said [...]"''. If two people are talking in a group and you want to respond to something one says but they keep talking, you're not just SOL when you get a chance to speak later. Nothing binds you to start without preamble like you would have if you could have responded immediately. It's really not ''that'' hard, just remind them. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:01, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
::What rules dictate this? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:06, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
:::Dictate what? If you want to respond without preamble that's your choice, I guess, we don't have a rule about that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:11, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
::::I meant the whole talk page arrangement in general. It befuddles me how this is possible here. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:14, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
:::::How...responding in order is "possible"? It should be the most basic common sense. Responding ''out'' of order only screws up the order of the people who posted ''before'' you and who you've now forced after ''you''. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:32, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

I would like to jump in here, Tiddlywinks. What GrammarFreak01 is asking is what decision or rule requires Bulbapedia talk pages to have all comments go in order of when they were posted when compared to other wikis where comments are more like branches and split off when multiple users comment on a single reply. Frankly, I am curious as well regarding the order since the discussion on PardescanSlowbro's talk page does not make much sense in the current order, but I believe that there must be a reason for doing it this way. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 20:30, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
:"What rule?" More or less just as I and other staff have said: "Comments go in order". The reason is also as I said above: anything else really just screws with everything else. Other wikis are welcome to do what they want. Bulbapedia asks that comments go in order (effectively just like any natural conversation; the entire species has managed to do that fine for a very long time, people can manage here too). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:43, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
::But is that in Bulbapedia's actual set of official rules and guidelines? Because if not, I don't see why I or anyone else has to be bound by that. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:09, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
:::...I'm gonna go with, if staff tells you something and you decide to flout it, it won't turn out very happily for you, regardless of whether there is a strict rule... (At best, I will say that if you're that dubious about something, take it up the chain.)
:::Protip, though: if you're familiar enough with Bulbapedia (and, [[Template:Welcome|ideally]], it ''shouldn't'' really take much "familiarity"), you can answer your own question. And maybe learn a thing or two else in the process. ;) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:16, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
::::I am under the belief that every single rule should at the very least be documented in an official list, that way people can be directed to it if they're confused so they know it's not just something that is simply preferred by certain higher-ups. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:18, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
:::::...Your issue essentially comes down to "I don't trust staff to not be going on a power trip." So I'll tell you what. If you can't trust that someone on staff is telling you something that, for whatever reason, you really do have to follow, then take it up the chain. Maybe they know something written out to point you to, maybe not. But if for whatever reason you can't "trust" something, there are easy enough recourses. (Protip: if you don't want to do it in the open, you can even use PMs on the forums.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:29, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

{{indent}}New comments going at the bottom of a discussion ''is'' written in the talk page policy, [[Bulbapedia:Talk page policy#Editing in sections|under editing in sections]]. As for why, because people are going to look for new comments at the bottom of the conversation, not in the middle.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:36, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
:Since it's been spoiled =P , I'll leave off with: I'd very earnestly appreciate if you'd take a read through the whole page. If this is one thing you've missed, there may well be other things you can learn. (...Not to mention, if you won't trust if someone just tells you something else down the line, it'd be better for you to just learn for yourself sooner rather than later.) In a similar vein, if you find yourself wondering about {{cat|Bulbapedia policies}}, try to remember that you can check that and other pages we have. Thanks! [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:38, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

== In-game trade ==

I agree about the revert on my change as it was not a future proof way to do it.

I've added a discussion on the page for that subject and hope it goes in the direction of your comment.

I'd appreciate to have your feedback whether you agree on the idea or not.

(I'm still not sure if there's PM so I post this here. Sorry if I goofed up)
[[User:Zanguu|Zanguu]] ([[User talk:Zanguu|talk]]) 16:52, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

== Re: No article on Aura used by Totem Pokemon/ Ultra Beasts ==

Hello, I tried to search for articles describing the usage of the aura used by [[Totem Pokémon]] and [[Ultra Beasts]]. There is no article covering this topic. Could I please have your permission on making this page?[[User:Elite4Alola|[[Elite4Alola]]]] ([[User talk:Elite4Alola|talk]]) 08:23, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
:Mechanically, in the games, aura is pretty simple. Lore-wise, there's a bit more, but still, I don't know. The anime is the thing I really don't know. If you'd like to create a user page so we can see how much and what kind of content there might be, then we can make a better decision about whether it warrants its own page or what. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:38, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
:I think I'll get back to you on this. I'll will go and do some research first[[User:Elite4Alola|[[Elite4Alola]]]] ([[User talk:Elite4Alola|talk]]) 01:45, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

== Changes to game location sections ==

Why should we have one format that's consistent for gift Pokemon, another that's consistent for wild Pokemon, and a whole bunch of locations that don't use any consistent format when we can have one format that's consistent for all locations? 
On Voltorb's page, why are you using the Frontier Brain template to link to the Power Plant? I don't think the Power Plant is a Frontier Brain. 
On Golbat's page, why is "Blackthorn City side" in parentheses but "interior" is not? 
[[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:19, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
:"Consistency" is not god. Putting big lines of text in parentheses just looks bad. The parentheticals are only meant to be short—that's what they've been for a long time, and trades and stuff have used their own format for a long time, and it's been just fine. The short parentheticals do what they need to just fine, they don't need to be twisted to take on more.
:If {{template|FB}} creates an appropriate link, I don't think it's a huge problem.
:"Interior" doesn't need parentheses. It's a simple label that reads very fine without them, the kind of compound you could easily find in normal English text. A compound description like "Blackthorn City side" does not work like that, though. I understand the discrepancy...I considered maybe just using "north" instead or something—but I didn't want to be more vague (and I guess if ''you've'' been trying to add "actual locations" and all, you wouldn't like that option either) so I figured it'd just have to be what worked. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:30, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
::So...very short additional details (like "interior") aren't in parentheses, and very long details (like "received from Professor Sycamore in Lumiose City after defeating him") aren't in parentheses, either? I never thought putting lots of text in parentheses looked bad. Am I the only one who thinks that? Also doesn't using the <nowiki>{{FB</nowiki> template to link to the Power Plant count as a lazy template? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 21:50, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
:::I don't think those cases are in such a juxtaposable context as that suggests, but you've essentially stated those cases correctly.
:::You question whether you're the only one who doesn't have a problem with lots of text in parentheses. I don't know the answer really, but to turn it in a different direction, it may be fair to say that you may be the only one who has a problem with the outstanding format for the trades and such.
:::You're putting that last question like I should know about it or know how to react or whatever... Is there a specific definition for "lazy template", or......? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:17, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
::::I guess you can say that about me. As for the "lazy templates", this is what I found on the List of Link Templates page:
::::"Although link templates are encouraged in day-to-day usage, it is asked that they are only used for the intended purpose. Any use otherwise may be considered a "laziness template". For example, consider writing <code><nowiki>[[Pokémon Trainer]]</nowiki></code> instead of <code><nowiki>{{g|Trainer}}</nowiki></code>. Usage of laziness templates will be reverted, and offenders will be warned."
::::[[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:53, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
:::::It seems FB may be one we specifically let slide. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:16, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
::::::Okay. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:39, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

== Event Pokemon ==

Hello again. My line on the page for [[Event Pokémon]] said that '''most''' Event Pokemon are mythical but not all. You removed it because not all event Pokemon are Mythical. I was aware of that and I even gave an example in my line and even then, about 85% of Event Pokemon are Mythical. So, why was it removed again? Just curious. Thanks '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 23:13, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
:I didn't remove it because "not all" are Mythical. I removed it because not "most" are even Mythical. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:18, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
::But the big majority of them are. Something about Mythical Pokemon should be added. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 23:44, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
:::I don't think so. There are all sorts of distributions for regular old Pokemon. I would be quite surprised if Mythicals make close to the 85% you think. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:15, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
::::The only Pokemon that aren't Mythical are Lugia and Ho-Oh in Gen 3, the two Vivillon patterns, cap Pikachu and Dusk Lycanroc. That's 5 out of 22 (There's 17 Mythicals that are event only) so about 77% Event Pokemon are Mythical to be precise. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 09:04, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
:::::That's very incorrect... For example: [[Eevee (Pokémon)#In events]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:37, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
::::::I was mainly talking about Event-Exclusive Pokemon, since they're the ones mentioned on the page. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 12:52, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
:::::::In that case, you've been using completely the wrong words...
:::::::Mythical Pokemon ''would'' be worth mentioning so long as it's in the appropriate place and using unambiguous language. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:42, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
::::::::Ah. Apologies if I was using the wrong words. I'll add a bit about them. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 14:32, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

== Type page discussion ==

I already [[User talk:Glik/Archive July 2015-May 2018|discussed this]] with glik. Is there anything else you want to tell me? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 03:42, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
:You practically neutered the sections you edited. I said it would be better to start a discussion. That way there's something everyone can easily see if they wonder in the future. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:38, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
::I already started at least 3 discussions. One here, one on glik's talk page, and one on Normal (type)'s talk page. What else do you want me to discuss? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 15:56, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
:::Oh, I didn't know there was anything on the talk page. I've given a response. I may have lost track of it before or something, I don't know. Sorry. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:55, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

== Signature ==

Is my signature ok?[[User:Форс файре|'''Ф'''орс]][[User talk:Форс файре|'''Ф'''айре]] 18:22, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
:Yes, it's good. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:36, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

== Creating Japanese voice actor articles ==

Hey! After remembering [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:GrammarFreak01/Archive_1#Creating_pages your response] to my creation of the [[Ash's Pikachu (M20)]] article, I've decided to come to you about creating new pages. I'm thinking of creating a couple of pages or so on Japanese voice actors, starting with [[Haruka Tomatsu]]. Is that okay? Is there an article creation procedure that I need to follow? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 19:32, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
:The requirements for VA pages are described at [[Bulbapedia:Project VA]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:30, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
::Okay, thank you for the heads-up! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:41, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

== Cynthia being Verity's mother ==

I understand that there are conflicting sources about this whole matter, and that is why I think you should perhaps work to debunk the source I just mentioned first before we all move forward. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:39, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
:Let me ask: let's just suppose that all we could ever have would be these two conflicting pieces of "evidence": what would you think would be best for Bulbapedia to do? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:52, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
::Discuss it and investigate which source holds more veracity? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:01, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
:::That seems like it's ultimately down to pretty much opinion... It can be very easy for people to be loud and determined in their positions. I don't think your solution is a strong solution. But for now I will take the simple route and give you a bit of reasoning in the vein of your desired approach.
:::The director's word is currently verifiable, whereas the other source is only secondhand information. Perhaps you have heard the maxim, "Trust but verify"? I cannot, personally, tell you anything reliable about the claim that Cynthia is Verity's mother, but I can answer anything you want to ask about the director's refutation of that theory. If information cannot be independently evaluated by anyone with the desire/ability (and therefore argued with nuance in its own right), then it's a decidedly imperfect source. Sometimes that's all we have. That's not the case here, though. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:31, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

== Mallow Tsareena Sweet Scent ==

Hi. So in SM082 Mallow's Tsareena does something that some would describe as Sweet Scent, as it has a similar appearance and effect to how the move was used in its pre-evolved forms. PlayerKing95 has removed it because we don't have enough proof, despite the evidence pointing towards it. I, as well as another user, has reached out to him to discuss it. It has been about a week now and he has ignored multiple messages to resolve this issue, and it is making me think that he will continue to ignore messages because it means the page can't be changed. Could I get some help with this? Thank you for your time.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 18:11, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
:I saw you've asked ForceFire too and gotten a response. I wasn't immediately sure how it fits in our policy, and I still haven't checked the episode or anything, but since ForceFire has responded I'll leave it to him now. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:58, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

== Type pages again ==

Is there anything you still want to talk about? Can I start editing all the types now? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:01, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you for asking. And I'm very sorry I haven't devoted time to it (once again) for so long.
:Anyway, I've responded to the last comment and I think you can make edits if you try to follow the examples on [[Talk:Normal (type)]], unless you yourself have other pressing questions. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:58, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

== Stat averages of types ==

How did you calculate the stat averages of each type? You said poison had the lowest average speed, but the Bulbapedia articles say a few other types (such as rock) have even lower speed. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 19:43, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
:I used the averages from each type page. Apparently I made a surprising typo with Poison's speed; I typed 30 instead of 80 (I couldn't say how, 3 and 8 aren't close, possibly I just misread it or something). Rock is right. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:31, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

== questions about hidden items in games ==

if an item is like inside a rock would i describe it as 'in the rock' or 'on the rock'? Also if you get an item from an npc should i use 'obtain' or 'receive'? {{unsigned|EternalDragonX}}
:It's not like you pick up the rock or break it or anything special. The only thing that makes sense is "on". [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:12, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
::ok 'on' it is. also u didnt answer my second question if someone gives u an item do we use 'receive' or 'obtain'? - [[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 19:30, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
:::Usually it's not necessary at all. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:09, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
::::u mean neither is necessary? so in the [[Pallet Town]] items section where all the items begin with "obtained from.." i should delete the "obtained" and just leave it "from x"? - [[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 06:56, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::There are some cases, like if it's a ''reward'', where I might feel like specifying that, but even more specific things like probably aren't necessary. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:39, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

== repeated links in item lists ==

are they bad or good? - [[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 21:39, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
:IMO it's usually a little better than making someone look for the first link in the box when they're reading a specific line. And it's how I always saw them so IMO it's fine. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:12, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
::But shouldn't we still avoid deliberately adding new ones? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:38, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
:::I personally am very likely to link every line myself. There have definitely been pages where I had a problem like, "Ugh, Beauty's not linked, alright which random item referenced some Beauty or other in this whole list..." [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:03, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
::::Well, I guess we both have different viewpoints on this subject, and I can definitely understand your viewpoint. I just personally don't prefer the same link popping up again and again. Let's just leave the whole thing be. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:15, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::allrightey finnish u heard what the man said i will be linking every single damn link i see in every single item list i can find. :) - [[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 19:33, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
::::::I hope you also noticed my reply. Please don't go overboard. And '''please''', start using big capital letters! It's bothering me! --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:54, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::::FYI I think there can be a few links that would be kind of useless. Like, say, caught Pokemon, that would probably be pointless to link repeatedly. Useful links are key, unnecessary ones just get in the way. If I had to try to classify it, that might mean mainly tangible things. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:09, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

== X-type vs. X type ==

I was under the impression that the word "Pokémon" or "move" or whatever had to actually ''be'' there in order for it to be "X-type" instead of "X type". I even said so to {{user|GrammarFreak01}} when they asked me about it on my talk page. Just watch the {{series|Sun & Moon}} Pokédex entries. They seem to be agreeing with me, since in them, it's always "<Pokémon>, the <category name> Pokémon. A(n) X type". The subtitles have confirmed that it's "X type", not "X-type". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:37, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
:It seems even the games have some rare examples of this, like [[Acerola]], ''"And your Rotom is a Ghost type, too!"''. I think this is poorly thought out and fundamentally wrong, but I will leave it there and I won't argue with it beyond that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:03, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
::Thanks. So I take that I can undo your undoings on the memory articles? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:15, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
:::Done. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:09, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
::::Thanks. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:50, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

== Move policy ==

While I understand what you are trying to accomplish with this new rule, I honestly see the forbiddence of using one's own head while determining unnamed moves as absurd. 
First off: you removed {{m|Psycho Cut}} and {{m|Air Slash}}, when they '''fit''' one of the categories you named. Psycho Cut has been used in the Sun & Moon series before, with identical animation, and so has Air Slash, even to the point where it was used in the '''very same episode''', in case the comparison couldn't be easier! 
Second: why is the use of common sense apparently forbidden in this issue? Like, what else could Necrozma's laser-like move '''be''' than its own signature move {{m|Prismatic Laser}}? Why can't [[Mallow's Tsareena]]'s {{m|Sweet Scent}} be confirmed as such, when we've seen it being used in an '''identical way''' by its two pre-evolutions? 
Third: we rely '''way''' too much on subtitles when it comes to identifying unnamed moves. I'm telling you, some of these "confirmations" should be taken with a '''serious''' grain of salt. For example, why does Litten/Torracat know so many different slashing/scratching moves? Shouldn't we just go with the move that's actually named out loud? In some cases, these "confirmations" haven't even come in episodes where the move is used for the first time, like [[Nebby]]'s crying being suddenly classified as "{{m|Supersonic}}", which should be an even further indication that the subtitles aren't as reliable as some want to believe. And what about the cases when the subtitles fail to recognize something what is undoubtedly a move '''as''' a specific move? What then? What about [[Lusamine]]'s {{p|Salazzle}}'s attack from [[SM053]], which could easily be {{m|Sludge Wave}}? Why wasn't [[Kiawe's Marowak]]'s {{m|Bonemerang}} named in its debut episode, despite clearly being used in it (further evidence for the unreliability of subtitles), with the subtitlers rather labeling {{m|Headbutt}} as a move, although it has never been commanded to to be used out loud (thus indicating that it was just a generic headbutt and not a move), while all of Marowak's other moves have, which, based on the fact that anime has been sticking to the "only four moves at a time" policy from the games for a good while already, as evidenced by, say [[Ash's Pikachu]]? So, in short, I consider that subtitles '''can''' be used as '''help''' while identifying unnamed moves, but they shouldn't be trusted blindly. And if something that resembles a move is used without it being named by the dialogue '''or''' the subtitles, it should '''seriously''' be discussed and determined. 
I honestly feel that Bulbapedia is actively hurting itself removing all this information. Please. Try to understand my points. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:49, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
:I totally agree with [[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] statement, especially in the upcoming episode of Poipole World that is going even more '''serious''' discussion and debate, wheather that location is [[Ultra Megalopolis]] or another unknown location that only appears in the anime-exclusive. So many questions to answers. It just really don't know, where it going to end. [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 06:04, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
::FinnishPokéFan92: you say that Psycho Cut and Air Slash fit a category I named. In my last message on your talk page I left two bullet points on your page in a "simple" criteria for the policy; can you please quote the one that you say fits?
::I'm going to put off touching the rest until that is answered. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:45, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

== Questions about files ==

How do I change files on Bulbapedia? Am I allowed to change this file if it looks different in my copy of Emerald? [[File:Hoenn Route 132 RSE.png|80px]] [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 03:53, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
:That's an RSE map. If it's different in Emerald, it may still be accurate for R/S, so it may not be right to upload over it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:44, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
::What's the answer to my first question? How do I know if it's accurate for RS, and what do I do after I find out? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:00, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
:::How is it different in Emerald? Is it possible for you to upload an image to show what is different?--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:18, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
::::How do I change files on Bulbapedia? Do you want me to upload it directly to Bulbapedia or upload it to Imgur and link to it here? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:39, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::Bulbapedia files are on the Archives. If you're not certain about something, using a simple image hoster temporarily is probably best. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:46, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
::::::[https://i.imgur.com/VPstLqb.png the image] So far, the only difference I've noticed is the arrangement of the current tiles leading from the east end to Fisherman Ronald. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 00:31, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry for being late, I got busy a bit and forgot.
:::::::Is that your own image? I think Emerald ''is'' different, but I do not think that is an accurate image from Emerald. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:46, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
::::::::How do I make sure that image is accurate? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:41, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::Are you asking how to check it? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:10, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::Yes. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:35, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::Well...I mean, does that mean you didn't take the image yourself? (If you did it should be "accurate".) If not, you can only compare the currents very closely. It may help to blow up your image so you can see the detail better. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:21, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::I didn't take it myself. I don't know if it's accurate; I only know that it's ''more accurate'' than the current (yes pun intended) one on Bulbapedia. How can I take a screenshot myself? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:09, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::::There's one small area that's different between the images, and that difference isn't accurate to either game as I know them, so I'm not sure it's more accurate. But anyway...
:::::::::::::Emulators usually have ways to take screenshots I think, but if that's not what you're using, you usually need a capture card. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:16, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Can I do anything if I have neither an emulator nor a capture card? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:32, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::I don't think so? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:44, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

== item split proposal ==

in this items section: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Hoenn_Route_104#Items the hidden items for gen 3 and gen 6 are put together because theyre the same items, but i want to propose that its better to split them up. for gen 6 the description would remain the same but for gen 3 i would put a more specific description like "three squares east of fisherman" or something so it would be easier to find them. what do you think? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 08:58, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
:FWIW it is possible to be equally specific for Gen VI. But...I was of the same mind before. It was decided that it's better to just be generic and keep to one entry if possible. (I have a secret desire to some day just make versions of the game maps with all items explicitly labeled including marking hidden items.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:46, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
::curious how u would be specific for gen 6 since u might hold the direction key a bit too long or short and be off by a bit from the location. also okay i will just leave the items generic the way they are --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 06:56, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
:::The descriptors shouldn't be overly specific (like three squares to the left). "Holding the direction key for too long" is not the fault of the description, that's on the player.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:20, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
::::u mean they shouldnt be overly specific for non hidden items right? For hidden items I feel like they should be.. cuz thats what ive been doing for all my hidden item edits so far lol --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 08:53, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::If you can hold the key too long in ORAS/XY, you can do the same in any previous games. Gen VII is the only time where you've had NO discrete steps.
:::::I don't care if directions for hidden items are specific where they're the same in any games they appear in. If they would be different (and therefore require different entries or other complications), they should just be generic. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:26, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
::::::i understand that a description for a hidden item should be generic if the item appears in multiple games to avoid different entries. i wanna know how you would make a specific description in oras/xy. would you just say like "three steps east of fisherman"? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 13:01, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::::What do you mean how? If the item is located 3 steps east of a fisherman, then "three steps east of fisherman" would be accurate. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:16, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
::::::::hmm i dont know, i just feel like pre gen 6 its very clearly defined what a step is cuz you would just press a direction key once and you would always be on a certain square. in gen 6 i can tap the direction key gently and i go a tiny distance or i may accidentally hold it for a millisecond longer and go a further distance. my point is that i dont really agree about your point of "if you hold it too long in gen 6, you can in the previous games" --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:40, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::I think you must be confusing Gen VI and VII. I would suggest getting out XY/ORAS and trying to move a step. It is not hard. The movement grid was not removed until Gen VII (though they did let you "break" it in XYORAS). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:10, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::EternalDragon, "pressing the directional button for too long" is not our problem. It's not the fault of the wiki. That's the fault of the player. We cannot control how "long" a player presses a button. It's simply not an issue.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:59, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

==Anime moves SM088==
Hey, I wanted to ask about a couple of moves and whether you think they can identified and be added to their respective articles.
* Flash Cannon (used by Solgaleo)
* Moonblast (used by Lunala)
* Air Slash (used by Lunala)
* Prismatic Laser (used by Necrozma)
I think the former two can be identified, because of unique animation. They both look identical to how they have always appeared in the past; Flash Cannon is a silver beam of energy and Moonblast is a pink orb of energy while the moon is shown in the background. Additionally, Flash Cannon and Moonblast have already been used in the Sun & Moon series (by Sophocles's Metang and Lusamine's Clefable). Solgaleo and Lunala's attacks matched the appearance of their respective moves.

Air Slash has been used by Gladion's Silvally. Lunala's attack looked identical to this one.

While Prismatic Laser has not appeared yet in the anime, it looks like the move's appearance in the games. I decided to include this one, because of the recent discussion on Sunsteel Strike, which you approved because it matched its game animation.

So, what do you think? [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 16:24, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
:Relatively simple energy beams are always iffy to me. But you do say Flash Cannon's been seen before; would you be able to tell me what episodes and an episode where it's explicitly identified/called?
:I like the moon element for Moonblast, that seems like a solid differentiator. Would you also be able to tell me somewhere it's been explicitly ID'd just so there's one more bit of evidence?
:Air Slash, I'm really not sure. If it's not unique enough to be added to the whitelist in its own right, then I worry about how any change would play out considering what happened with {{m|Psycho Cut}} for [[SM053]] previously. I and/or we (meaning everyone who usually adds moves and gave it a pass) need to figure out why that sort of error was made and how to avoid anything similar if the rules will change.
:Sunsteel Strike (FWIW) wasn't approved just because it matched its animation, but because that animation was also quite distinct from any other move.
:Anyway, I'll take a good look at the moves and see what I think, and see if the rest of staff has any input. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:44, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
::Flash Cannon was used and called in SM086 (near the end of the episode against Team Rocket) and in SM088 (around the 9-minute mark against Necrozma). Moonblast was used in SM053, also near the end of the episode. This one was identified by the dub's closed captions. [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 14:55, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
:::Silvally was ordered to use Air Slash in the same episode where Lunala used it. The animation and colors are identical, so I'd consider it confirmed. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:04, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

== Battle Frontier articles ==

May I know why you deleted the articles on the Battle Frontier facilities which were created by {{u|TehPerson}}? The reason you provided on your edit summary makes zero amount of sense considering way back in '''2013''' {{u|SnorlaxMonster}} approved the split. --[[User:Mikuri|'''Mi''']][[User talk: Mikuri|'''ku''']][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|'''ri''']] 14:43, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
:Immediately apparent here is a really big assumption on your part.
:Namely: that I know what you are referring to when you say SM approved it in 2013.
:Perhaps you could help by pointing to where that was? (In the future as well, if you can, essentially, "source" your comments with links or something, that can help a lot if someone else doesn't know what you're referring to (which is probably not a good assumption to make usually).) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:53, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
::Is it so hard to go to the talk page and search for a comment SM left in 2013? Apparently so. [[Talk:Battle Frontier (Generation III)#Splitting suggestion|Here you have it]]. --[[User:Mikuri|'''Mi''']][[User talk: Mikuri|'''ku''']][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|'''ri''']] 14:57, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
:::I'm not going to reward that attitude by doing work for you... Either I can spend who-knows-how-long to look for something you know and I don't every time you do anything like this, or I can try to prompt you to remember to provide these answers yourself sooner rather than later. It shouldn't be a horrible courtesy I'm asking. If you wish to respond to my request, I will be happy to respond further, otherwise, you'll have to be satisfied with what you can make from this. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:03, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
::::What are you even talking about now? I responded to your request and provided a link. --[[User:Mikuri|'''Mi''']][[User talk: Mikuri|'''ku''']][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|'''ri''']] 15:07, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::Yeah. I realized that just posting. I apologize, I seem to have missed the link at the end of your message. I think when I saw that my mind thought it was a signature. (Again...the abrasive attitude didn't help anything either, though.)
:::::So, it shouldn't really be hard to imagine, but I did not read that part of the talk page when I checked to see if the split that TehPerson had performed was approved. (I don't really understand why you might think I would have seen it and ignored it, certainly without explicitly acknowledging it.)
:::::For what it's worth, the Generation IV pages do not seem to have been approved. Also, SnorlaxMonster's message said "'''we''' can make progress", which does not necessarily mean "proceed entirely at your own discretion". Beyond which, 5 years is a long time. If TehPerson knew about that message, it still would have been very reasonable to ask someone on {{bp|staff}} directly (perhaps even SnorlaxMonster himself) just to check, even referencing SnorlaxMonster's old comment. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:17, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
::::::So you're essentially saying that you, by clicking on a button, undid all the hard work TehPerson put on creating those pages because you failed to read the talk page? Is that correct?
::::::What SM really said in that comment is that the split hadn't been performed yet because '''we''' didn't have all the necessary pages ready. '''We''' made progress when TehPerson went and created those pages.
::::::Anyway, are you going to undo your own edits now? At least the Generation III pages have been approved. --[[User:Mikuri|'''Mi''']][[User talk: Mikuri|'''ku''']][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|'''ri''']] 15:33, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::::I read the talk page. Sorry if I'm not perfect. That's why all you beautiful people are here to help. (Though I'd appreciate it a bit more if it was rendered with less hostility. =P )
:::::::I'm not going to undo anything right now. There's no great rush.
:::::::I'm just going to wait until I know for sure what our decision is rather than presume. Patience. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:46, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

== Professor Willow special research ==
Hi, I followed the pre-existing format for "A Mythical Discovery" which was omitting the very last sentence of each phase and used bullet points for items. Should you want to reintroduce correct phrasing, you may find video reference for the following researches:
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEjrqrBi1iM GO Fest 2018]
*[https://youtu.be/_WsWgCIaixk Yokosuka]
Also you removed "Special Research" from "A Mythical Discovery" and "A Ripple in Time" but not from "Go FEST 2018" and "Pokémon GO Safari Zone in YOKOSUKA", was this intended? [[User:JaxomNC|JaxomNC]] ([[User talk:JaxomNC|talk]]) 03:57, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
:There is no format to "follow" for quotes except to represent as precisely as possible what a character's dialogue actually shows. We don't want to invent anything where there is no need, we want to document the game faithfully. (And Willow's dialogue for the Mythical Discovery steps did not have any "last sentence" with all the tasks, it did actually list the tasks on their own lines (with no bullet points).)
:Thanks for the links. Like I said, I deferred any substantial edits to the two variants until I had seen them myself (because, as I said, they should reflect as precisely as possible what the game shows). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:35, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

== Notability ==

Hello! I saw that you undid a revision I made on [[Trainers' School (Alola)]] due to notability. I'm still new here and figuring out the conventions, and I couldn't find a solid answer on the [[Bulbapedia:Notability requirements]] page. What typically makes something not notable? Was there anything specific about that change that I should avoid doing in the future? Thank you! [[User:Butterfreeism|'''–Butterfreeism''']] 01:27, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
:I was mostly using notable as a common word rather than in the specific sense on the page you linked. It's just kind of pointless to note that [whatever] is only found in "this" area. Either the person is already there and will find the Pokemon if they want to, or they're not (or they may leave and forget) and if they want to find that Pokemon there's a very convenient species page where they will be well able to find a location where they can look for it, regardless of whether there's one place or more. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:06, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
::Understood! Thanks for the insight! :) [[User:Butterfreeism|'''–Butterfreeism''']] 06:57, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

== Oluolu ==

The [[SM091|newest episode of the anime]] confirms that exclusive Z-Moves need specific moves as their basis in the anime too. Should this count as a sign that [[Oluolu]]'s {{p|Snorlax}} knows {{m|Giga Impact}} to perform {{m|Pulverizing Pancake}}, despite it never having been seen using Giga Impact? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:48, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
:I'll see if the rest of staff have any qualms about it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:42, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
::Thanks. I'll be waiting.
::Oh, and I also remembered: doesn't this also mean that [[Nebby]] learned {{m|Sunsteel Strike}} immediately after evolving in [[SM052]], given how it was able to perform {{m|Searing Sunraze Smash}} in the same episode? And, by extension, shouldn't that be proof that the move Nebby used in [[SM053]] wasn't just "a glowing headbutt"? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:24, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
:::No... Even supposing Nebby knew Sunsteel Strike, there's no reason to assume that's what it was doing. There are very unique parts of Sunsteel Strike that were not at all seen there; that's a huge leap of logic. Frankly, there's no reason to assume Nebby was using any move, as opposed to just building up power and smashing through the rock. Not everything HAS to be a move. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:31, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
::::Your scepticism is way too over the top... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:43, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::I don't exactly want to "shout", but I'm honestly a little astounded if you don't understand this huge point... '''"There are very unique parts of Sunsteel Strike that were not at all seen"'''. That's not overly skeptical, that's ''only'' reasonable. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:56, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::Oh, I'm sorry (like, not sarcastic or anything), in the midst of my reaction above, I did forget to mention... Yes, it's okay to say that a Pokemon knows the base move if it uses an exclusive Z-Move. (It doesn't count as a use of the base move in and of itself, though. For that it'd have to be identifiable by the same criteria as any anime move.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:52, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

== Undoing edits ==

Regarding the edit you [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Generations&diff=2858945&oldid=2858907 undid] on the [[Pokémon Generations]] page.

Why?

Maybe Bulbapedia doesn't make it a priority to use dashes the way style guides recommend, and maybe we're not going to make a [[wp:MOS:DASH|policy]] to "enforce" proper usage. But what reason is there to enforce it in the opposite direction? Where's the Bulbapedia policy on that? Just because an edit didn't need to be done, doesn't mean it needs to be ''un''done.

I don't know if Bulbapedia has an explicitly-stated equivalent policy, but Wikipedia has certain guidelines with regards to undoing people's edits. Per [[wp:WP:REVERT#Before reverting|WP:REVERT]]:

''"Consider carefully before reverting, as it rejects the contributions of another editor. […] In the edit summary or on the talk page, succinctly explain why the change you are reverting was a bad idea or why reverting it is a better idea."''

"We don't normally bother with that" isn't good enough. Why is undoing it better than leaving it alone? How is the article improved by your reversion? — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 18:54, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
:I guess I'm just responding to your logic. You said/are saying that endash is the "right" thing to use, meaning it should always be used. I don't think there's actually a passive/lazy middle ground like you're suggesting.
:And IMO it's really not worth making anyone type out "ndash" or copy the right symbol. Not when I'm sure most people wouldn't even notice any difference just reading either version, or have ''any'' idea that it's a "thing" (meaning there'd just have to be other people watching out for it all the time—again, not worth it). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:58, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
::What you're saying is, in your opinion, it wasn't worth it to make the edit. That was already established. That doesn't explain why it's worth it to undo. [[wp:WP:DONTREVERT|Don't revert edits just because they're not a significant improvement.]] — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 04:07, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
:::We are not Wikipedia. We have our rules, and they have there's. The point TiddlyWinks is trying to make is that you didn't have to make the edit in the first place. It was unnecessary, that's why it was reverted.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:58, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
::::I would add, it's "worth" undoing because a mix of styles is not "good" either. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:21, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::You guys aren't very good at clicking links, are you?
:::::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Revert_only_when_necessary#Bad_reasons_to_revert
:::::''"Do not revert an edit because that edit is unnecessary"''
:::::I don't know how it could possibly be any clearer. Just because an editor isn't following ''your'' agenda, doesn't mean it's your responsibility to stamp them out. This is a wiki. It's collaborative.
:::::And as far as the "mix of styles" argument, there are two reasons why that's nonsense. First, because "most people wouldn't even notice any difference just reading either version," as ''you'' said. No reader would ever see that dash and think, "That needs to be changed to a hyphen," yet you made that change anyway. And second, why should we be complacent about this punctuation issue but not others? Even if "most people" don't know or care about the difference between ''its'' and ''it's'', we still want our articles to look like they're written by people who do, which is why we don't reintroduce errors after people fix them. — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 14:55, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::News flash: we are not beholden to Wikipedia. (Which ForceFire already pointed out.)
:::::For the rest: refer again to my original explanation of why it's ''not worth'' it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:22, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

== Not-up-to-standards Messages- SM075 - SM088 ==

Hi Tiddlywinks,

I am messaging you in regards to the not up to standards messages on the sm075 through to sm088 episode plot pages. They were placed on the respective pages by GrammarFreak01 several weeks ago, and have yet to be rectified. I had earlier attempted to edit the sm075 plot, but the not up to standards message was reinstated by GrammarFreak01. I don't feel the current alerts are necessary to begin with as most of the pages were edited in response to FinnishPokeFan92's concerns, but I want the best result. As the user suggested, and because he is busy, could you or ForceFire look over those pages and make the necessary changes to delete the alerts? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 23:58, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

:Let me clarify that the tags are up there because there are some leftover errors that were most likely missed during the cleanup process. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:06, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

== Version Exclusive as Trivia ==

I've seen that you deleted my added trivia fact on the Pokémon Blue Japanese version page. I do agree that this fact may not be trivia-worthy, however on the Pokémon Yellow page, there is an exact same trivia fact on Farfetch'd. Perhaps it would benefit consistency to delete the trivia-fact from that page too then?

''Out of all the [[core series]] [[Generation I]] games, this is the only one where {{p|Jynx}} can be caught in the wild; in the Japanese {{2v2|Red|Green}} as well as in the {{game|Red and Blue|s|Western Red and Blue}}, this Pokémon is only available by means of an [[in-game trade]]. In {{game|Yellow}} Jynx is unobtainable altogether.''

I think the 'uniqueness' in this regard is that Jynx cannot be caught in the wild in ANY International version of the games and Farfetch'd cannot be caught in ANY Japanese version. Not sure whether later games have this kind of trade-only Pokémon across all core games within one generation. Obviously it's all not that important, but the wiki is at a state right now where only small improvements are necessary, so we got the time to nitpick. {{unsigned|Malzagath}}
:Feel free to remove it.
:FWIW, if I weren't tired I might be able to follow my own train of thought all the way through on these and give more explanation or ''possibly'' change my mind a bit somehow...but here we are for now. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:35, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

== "No exclusions" (Meltan thing) ==

[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Meltan_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=2882460&oldid=2882156 How is it excluding anything?] I fail to see how it's different compared to similar trivia for starters, legendaries, and "of all [insert type here] Pokemon." [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:14, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
:I misspoke. The only mosts/leasts that should exist should be overall and for types. That's what I meant to get at (so those things you mentioned shouldn't be on pages).
:"No exclusions" is just really easy to say and it's the first thing I think of (especially as it was the first thing that really started bugging me about the stat trivia). I don't think I've had to deal with it recently so...I guess I just didn't think it through. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:35, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

== LGPE Stats template ==

Are there any actual problems on the merits with the [[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:SadisticMystic/LGPEStats]] template? Instead of having a note under the statboxes that it doesn't compute LGPE max stats correctly, I figured it might be worth computing stats under the LGPE formula correctly. [[User:SadisticMystic|SadisticMystic]] ([[User talk:SadisticMystic|talk]]) 23:52, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
:I haven't evaluated it. But templates can be done in ill-advised ways. (We have done that and had to correct things as Bulbapedia grew. And we're still not perfect.) So we can't just have people throwing anything together and spreading it everywhere. It's great if you want to make a template, you just need to ask for it to be approved before you can use it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:07, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

== Fossil Pages ==

Hiya, any developed thoughts on splitting the Fossil pages? It'd also help lessen the chance of accidental redirects (e.g. [[Dome Fossil]] leads to [[Dome and Helix Fossils]]). Also, I think the Berry page template could use a similar update (see my suggestion at [[User talk:Force Fire#Berry Template update]]). Lemme know your thoughts. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 01:06, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
:They are mainspaced. I would ask you to double-check the previous paired pages (like by checking their history since you created the split pages) for anything that was updated that didn't make it to the new pages.
:(I think you also asked about unneeded pages in your userspace. I'll deal with those. But I hope you're also currently remembering the proper way to mainspace pages (not just copy/pasting content, that is).) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:26, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
::Thanks! And yup, I'll see to it that doesn't happen again. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 16:49, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
:::Long overdue, but I remembered your userpages today: done. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:16, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

== Master Trainer movesets ==

I don't think that Master Trainer movesets need to be put on location pages. The "Master Trainer" link under each Trainer's name will lead to the article where the movesets are listed anyway. What you're suggesting is nothing more than waste of space in my opinion. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:40, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
:We thought the movesets were important enough to be needed on their page. It doesn't make any sense that we would skip the same movesets on their location pages then. If I expect movesets anywhere, it's on the locations really; my original opinion was that the movesets belonged on the location pages and, on the master trainer page, people could just follow links to those pages to find the movesets instead of wasting space ''there''. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:20, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
::Well, too bad for you, because the movesets are listed there now, and it's honestly saving space on location pages. Those Trainers aren't notable enough to deserve moveset templates on location pages. Besides, there's over a hundred of them. It simply isn't worth the effort. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:37, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
:::The list was made with the intention of not needing to bring them up in the location pages. Because there are many Master Trainers that can be found in any given location, and they are relatively minor characters compared to, say, {{ga|Trace}} or the [[Elite Four]], I believe it would be better for users to refer to the Master Trainer page for quick reference. - [[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]] 16:53, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
::::I do not think it is at all logical for us to say, we need more than just a bare bones party listing on the Master Trainer page, but for locations that's totally fine. I could be open to some alternate solution, but it does not make sense to me to treat them differently only on locating pages. Either both places only need the party listing, or both places need something more. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:03, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
:::::Chosen was the one who made the Master Trainer list, and he has given his judgement on this matter. Please accept it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:46, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
::::::I'll start by apologizing. There are some more or less specific circumstances when I leave an edit summary blank (compared to my normal habit of writing something no matter the edit); this can often be some combination of lack of time/energy, or my thoughts being in tones I don't really want to write, and/or just feeling like there's too much to say. Normally I figure it'll turn out more or less alright. And...honestly, with a discussion already going here (and you having given no response here at the time), I really thought you'd find a moment to talk a bit here before things went altogether too far. But it was pointed out to me that my empty edit summaries probably didn't help anything, ultimately resulting in the mess now in Route 4's history. After reflecting, I have to agree that I can do better; in the future, I will. (I'm going to attempt to leave my comment on your behavior at: I hope you realize there's some reflecting you can do too.)
::::::On to the issue itself!
::::::You're claiming that as the creator of the page, Chosen should have all say over how it (or anything related to it...) works. That's not at ''all'' how Bulbapedia works...
::::::Beyond that, it's also not really your place to enforce Chosen's will. Especially when I really don't think Chosen position was that the page MUST be changed back immediately.
::::::I'll end by re-emphasizing my last comment from before. An ALTERNATE should be very possible (i.e., a compromise). It doesn't have to be your way or the highway. As a starting point at least, I'd just ask you to recongize that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:30, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

== USUM Fashion Items ==

I am exploring ways to expand the fashion item tables in [[Fashion item]] to include USUM-exclusive items and came up with two different ways to do so, all summarized in [[Talk:Fashion item#USUM fashion items]]. Given that you created the page in the first place, I would like to hear your input regarding the matter (preferably by posting on that talk page, rather than here). [[User:SilSinn9801|--SilSinn (Pokémon Sun TID: 768426; Pokémon Ultra Moon TID: 123446)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 05:50, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
:This is the last thing I have gotten to this morning... I'll examine it later. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 11:43, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
::I'm sorry, I forgot about this.
::The first tables just seem terribly wasteful with the availability columns only having one half or the other used at a time. The second set seems smarter, though in that there shouldn't be any need for sups on the USUM items if there's a divider explaining exactly the same thing already. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:05, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
:::OK, so I discard the extra-column version and proceed with the second version. Given that, in the current tables, all fashion items listed under SM are also available in USUM and that items exclusive to Sun are also exclusive to USun (and those exclusive to Moon are also exclusive to UMoon), I think the current [[Template:Fashion/header|Fashion/header template]] can be updated to match my [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/headerUSUM|Fashion/headerUSUM template]]. Is it safe for me to update that template, given that such template is only being transcluded into one article (the one we want to update)? Or should I leave that matter to you as the author of the original template?
:::Since the divider is a template (the one I called <del>Fashion/middle; shall I rename it instead </del>Fashion/divider<del>?</del>), do you give it approval to mainspace it? Or, what if I remove the divider and use instead the sups on the new items (on which case the divider template remains in my space)? It’s up to you to decide what you prefer. (At least I determined that the divider doesn’t affect table sortability, although its presence sometimes results in some very annoyingly interesting results when playing with column sorting.)
:::And as for the current [[Template:Fashion/footer|Fashion/footer template]], can I also update it to match my [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/footerUSUM|Fashion/footerUSUM template]] (unless you want to rewrite some of the wording there, on which case I leave the update to you)? In the meantime, I will proceed to furnish the other updated tables, using the second format which you called smarter. --[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]] (TIDs: 768426S, 123446UM) ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 04:10, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
:::Also, for at least <del>two</del> three male items (the Water Shoes, <del>and</del> the Nylon Backpack, and the Baseball Hat), I had to create another template, '''[[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/s2|Fashion/s2]]''', to allow dual pricing on a single slot (blank price in SM because of default availability, numeric price in USUM because you have to buy them in USUM). This template will also need approval for mainspacing. As for the other two templates, '''[[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/divider|Fashion/middle]]''' and '''[[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/su|Fashion/su]]''', a decision has to be made first: Do we keep the divider and drop the sups ''(on which case Fashion/middle would need to be approved/mainspaced and <del>possibly</del> renamed '''Fashion/divider''')''? Or do we drop the divider and keep the sups ''(on which case Fashion/su would need approval/mainspacing)''? This is perhaps the last decision to make before finally incorporating the updated male tables into the article itself ''(and also updating the item and pricing grand totals)'' before I move on with updating the female tables. --[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]] (TIDs: 768426S, 123446UM) ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 17:45, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
::::I'm not going to try to get into this today, but... Did you try to post the entire set of USUM data on the Fashion item talk page? Because, in particular for a dataset that large, a talk page isn't really a proper place to try to store it. If you want to do something like that, you can just leave it on a page in your userspace. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:23, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
:::::You may be right about that. I will move all but two tables to a subpage of mine while I still compute the item and price totals. As for the rejected table, can I remove all but two slots from that table (or perhaps remove the entire rejected table so that I can later request the deletion of the now-unneeded UFashion templates in my userspace)? --[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]] (TIDs: 768426S, 123446UM) ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 04:06, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
:::::P.S. I moved <del>almost</del> everything to [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items]] as per your recommendation. I only left behind <del>two representative tables (male and female tops) with</del> notes regarding the relocation of tables to my user subpage. --[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]] (TIDs: 768426S, 123446UM) ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 04:23, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
:::::P.S. P.S. [[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] removed the rejected table (the one with three extra (wasteful) columns) so we don’t have to worry about it anymore (and I requested the deletion of the four UFashion templates used by that table, which ForceFire already achieved, because I no longer see any need for them). --[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]] (TIDs: 768426S, 123446UM) ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 05:58, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

== 2 random questions ==

If my edit was tagged "bad formatting", how can I fix it? How can I see the size of an article or an early version of an article? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:22, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
:I don't remember anything specific that triggers that notice, but if you want to narrow down where it's occurring, just remove parts of the page and see if the notice still shows up. (Although, I also don't remember for sure if the notice is shown when you just preview... If not, that wouldn't really be viable.)
:The history tab shows the size of revisions. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:05, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
::I tried using the preview. It only shows when I try to save the edit. As for size, what if I want the size of the entire article, not just the revision? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:58, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
:::Also I tried testing on section 13 of the Platinum walkthrough, and I was able to get the entire article to save without the tag. So I still don't know what caused the tag in the first place. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:22, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
::::I don't understand what you're getting confused with. Take {{p|Froakie}}. The page is currently 17,685 bytes. When it was created it was 3,083 bytes. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:38, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
:::::Apparently I'm blind and can only see red or green text and not black text. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:26, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

== Backtracking for items ==

How many items must require backtracking to an area in order to give that area its own backtracking section in a walkthrough? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:01, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
:If there's anything to backtrack for it's worth noting. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:38, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
::So if Route 214 has a rare candy that requires surf then it gets its own section? Or do I just give each HM a table with all the backtrack-obtainable items? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 06:27, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
:::I suppose since the walkthroughs tend to go into detail, it should be more of specific text than bare bones table. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:37, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
::::Can I use the itlist templates and put the specific stuff in there? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 14:41, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
:::::I don't know. Just get it out there, probably try to follow any examples for other backtracking, and if it can be improved it will be sooner or later. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:50, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

== SM101 Collective Nouns ==

Collective nouns alone are always singular: one duo, two duos; one pair, two pairs. [[User:Monchi132390|Monchi132390]] ([[User talk:Monchi132390|talk]]) 16:35, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
:I'm mostly gonna keep this simple. On [[SM101]], things like "The duo '''is''' pleased" just sound wrong.
:Beyond that, refer to https://www.dictionary.com/e/collective-nouns/ . The short version is, your "rule", by virtue of its inflexibility, is wrong. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:39, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

== [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items|USUM Fashion items]] complete ==

I am done computing the new item and price totals for [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items|USUM fashion items]], which brings my working subpage to completion for your review. In summary, the following still needs to be done before these tables can be finally incorporated into [[Fashion item]]:
* The [[Template:Fashion/header|Fashion/header]] and [[Template:Fashion/footer|Fashion/footer]] templates need to be updated to match my [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/headerUSUM|Fashion/headerUSUM]] and [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/footerUSUM|Fashion/footerUSUM]] templates, so I ask you whether I can directly update both templates (given that they are being transcluded only on one article, the server will only need to refresh that article so I don’t think there will be significant server stress) or leave the matter to you (as the original author of the templates).
* I seek approval to mainspace my [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/s2|Fashion/s2]] row template, which is required to properly display items with dual game-dependent pricing (namely, the Water Shoes, Trekking Shoes, Nylon Backpack, Nylon Shoulder Bag, Baseball Cap, and Casual Cap, which had no price in {{gameabbrev7|SM}} because of their default availability but must now be purchased in {{gameabbrev7|USUM}}).
* We still need to settle on whether to use the dividers (handled by my [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/divider|Fashion/middle]] template) or the {{sup/7|USUM}} superscripts (already incorporated into my [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/su|Fashion/su]] row template). If we keep the dividers and drop the sups, then only Fashion/middle will need to be mainspaced (<del>and possibly</del>just renamed to Fashion/divider which I believe is a more fitting name); if, on the other hand, we drop the dividers and keep the sups, then only Fashion/su will need approval (with a possible renaming).

Apart from all that, my work is done: the tables are complete and the item/price tallies are also complete. I look forward for your permissions and approvals before proceeding to update the article itself. --[[User:SilSinn9801|''SilSinn'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 04:04, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

== New vandal ==

Hey, heads up. {{user|Mckenzie6361}} has quite the talk page going on here. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 02:33, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

== LGPE on [[list of moves]] ==

A lot of people out there would like to see a list of moves that have been included/excluded from LGPE, and move availability between generations (eg Precipice Blades in ORAS but not XY) have already been noted on the table. If the way I did it looks too weird, do you have a better idea of how to approach it? (eg separate table/article, use of categories) [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 21:19, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
:The notes for ORAS/etc are really not about "availability" in a sense that would extend to LGPE. The list is supposed to inform you of when a move was introduced. Before LGPE, yes, this basically meant you knew what games a move was in, but that's more a byproduct than a specific intention for the list.
:If you would like to create a userpage for the moves in LGPE, we may consider mainspacing it, but I think the putting them all in a category may be sufficient. (I want to say it's simpler too, but I guess it's not, as far as editing each of those pages. So emphasis on "I think", I guess, but for the moment I'm feeling categories.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:11, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

== [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items|USUM Fashion items]] complete 2 ==

Have you taken time to read [[#USUM Fashion items complete|my posting above]] regarding [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items|USUM Fashion items]]? At least four things still need to be done (all of them itemized in the [[#USUM Fashion items complete|talk section above the section above this one]], because I don’t want to repeat them here) before the final updated tables can be incorporated into the [[Fashion item|final article itself]]. You seem to have taken time to make minor edits and reversals on other articles, but no time to review my updated tables and, most importantly, answer me the latest questions I posted on your talk page. I know being an admin is no easy job, especially when you are not earning a paycheck for doing this ''(everyone here is practically doing unpaid volunteer work, even myself!)'' --[[User:SilSinn9801|''SilSinn'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 06:06, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
:Honestly, from what I took from the tables I originally saw, the ''only'' thing that "needs" updating is the "SM"/"S"/"M" headers. The only reason I haven't given you a proper answer is because you introduced all these other templates/questions and I was partially confused that you think so much else might need updating/a "decision". (Which is to say, I haven't processed each of your suggestions enough to give you specific answers for each.)
:More importantly, though, I've also been asked to consider images in the template. Adding images to the template or the page is not exactly solved simply. There are so many images that any solution kind of has non-trivial downsides. I thought I might be able to get to it sooner (for more than just theorizing), but I partly had other templates with more priority that took up the time I did have earlier. I now have time, but it's not likely to be done in the next hour. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:11, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
::'''''Weekly update:''''' Have you taken enough time to examine my work and come up with proper/specific answers to my five or so questions? --[[User:SilSinn9801|''SilSinn'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 05:14, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
::Just to let you know, I just renamed my divider template to [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/divider]] (from [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/middle&redirect=no User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/middle]). I noticed that you have [[User:Tiddlywinks/Fashion|your own prototypical draft page]] with images for fashion items. But it still does not include the USUM items. Where did you get those images? Did you create them yourself? Are there similar images for the USUM-exclusive items that I could add to [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items|my own draft area]] while we still debate the unfinished debate? ‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''SilSinn'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 18:03, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
:::I'm going to try to just keep this simple. I'm just looking at [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items]] (where I don't really see anything that can't fundamentally be done with the existing mainspace templates) and critiquing from there.
:::General note 1: Don't use tt anywhere.
:::General note 2: Don't use italics for any part of any location except for "Default"
:::As for updating [[Fashion item]], then...
:::Update part 1: Please add the USUM-exclusive items at the bottom of each table. (All you need for a "divider" is a simple new row, like below.)
<pre>|-
| colspan="7" | '''Tops exclusive to {{gameabbrev7|USUM}}'''</pre>
:::Update part 2: Please add the USUM data for the select items that are default in SM but buyable in USUM (such as Water Shoes). All that is needed for these items is to give them a row for each game, one with the item name marked {{sup/7|SM}}, and the other marked {{sup/7|USUM}}.
:::I have updated the one template that needed it, and those updates should suffice for the rest. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:31, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
::::The footer template also needs updating, since I am distinguishing USUM-default items with a different dagger (‡ instead of the † used for SM-default ones) which needs to be incorporated into the template. I cannot simply reuse † for USUM items, otherwise one can get the false impression that it is also default in SM which is false. Also, if TT cannot be used, then we must find some other superscripted symbol to denote white items that can be dyed (not all white items can be dyed) in lieu of a tooltip. For the divider (which I had renamed as I said before), using raw wikicode instead of a template would make the table code internally inconsistent, which is why I requested approval of at least Fashion/divider. (Based on your other suggestions, I could do away with Fashion/s2 & Fashion/su, but first I must update my tables before I request their deletion.) As for images, do you have images for USUM-exclusive items? Because if you already settled on how to display images in the fashion tables, it would be a good idea to incorporate them right away. ‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''SilSinn'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 19:57, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
::::I updated again my proposed [[User:SilSinn9801/Fashion/footerUSUM|Fashion/footer]] template by adding a fourth parameter used to display an asterisk I chose to designate white colors that can be dyed (replacing the tooltips). So PLEASE give the footers in my just-updated [[User:SilSinn9801/USUM Fashion items|fashion item tables]] a new look and reconsider your decision regarding the official [[Template:Fashion/footer|Fashion/footer]] template (I insist it must be updated). Also check the way I handled the "dual-priced" items (Water Shoes ''et al'') using the current [[Template:Fashion/s|Fashion/s]] template (I used a strategy similar to that done for Sporty Tanks and other items with names spanning more than one row; the only drawback is that the color word ''Custom'' shows up twice, but that is better than displaying item names twice). ‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''SilSinn'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 21:51, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
:::::It doesn't make any sense that someone would think a USUM-exclusive item would be a default in SM.
:::::Dyed items are not a ''major'' concern on the fashion items page. The only place I'd say they ''really'' need noting is on Festival Plaza with the dye houses. As it stands, the mention they are given near the top on the fashion item page is plenty.
:::::"Inconsistency" is not a great worry. Creating templates that do barely anything and have very narrow use is worse. Writing it out is absolutely fine.
:::::There are two basic options here. '''You''' already did the work first. Either I can update everything at once and the History will contain no credit related to the work you've already done, or you can update the page for USUM. I don't ''know'' that you want credit...so I guess tell me now: shall I do it all, or shall you do a part?
:::::As regards your template for the "dual-priced" items, I'll just tell you simply: I don't like it. If I decide I want to do something else, I can whip something up easily, but right now I'd really just prefer having the page updated using the (quite adequate) tools we already have at our disposal. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:09, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
::::::<blockquote>“It doesn't make any sense that someone would think a USUM-exclusive item would be a default in SM.”</blockquote>
::::::Maybe I should’ve said the other way around: an SM-original item marked with † (with no further note that it is worn by default only in {{gameabbrev7|SM}}) would lead one to falsely believe that it is also worn by default in {{gameabbrev7|USUM}}, which led me to introduce the other dagger ‡ to make the distinction clear in the footer between items worn by default in SM and those worn by default in USUM. If you are unwilling to update the footer, then maybe I can update it myself with no questions asked, given that it is being transcluded only in three pages (unlike usertags which are being used in dozens or even hundreds of pages), so the server won’t severely stress out.
::::::The current divider is no longer simply a single-cell row, but is now a five-cell row (that is, if you really gave it a close look); if you are unwilling to approve its template, then maybe I can ask another admin (like [[User:Carmenstar97|Carmen★]] ''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|(Talk |]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|contribs)]]'' or even your senior superior, [[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]]) to do so.
::::::And whether I want credit or not: '''OF COURSE I WANT'''; after all those scoldings and hard-learned lessons, why forfeit credit? I just want permission to update the footer and approval to templatespace the divider template before I finally update the official article myself. As for the images, I leave that matter to you because I honestly don’t like to handle images (especially when I have no autoconfirmed status in the Archives). ‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''SilSinn'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 22:35, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
:::::::Let me try to be a little direct with you.
:::::::What I want right now is the page updated with what we have and, frankly, how I want it so that I can then look over it and more directly decide if there ''is'' anything I want to change. Frankly, if you hadn't done significant work, I would simply be doing everything how I thought was needed and moving forward on my own. But instead I feel obligated (to an extent, at least) to try to respond to you and let you make the update. Which you aren't doing...and that's honestly pretty frustrating to me at the moment. (Patience is not necessarily my strong suit, and if you want to keep putting it off, I foresee myself running out of it before all too long.)
:::::::With that off my chest for now...
:::::::...Let me say this. The things you want can still be addressed after you update the page as I've requested. And it would help me a lot if I can look at the page directly and consider what I see versus what you want.
:::::::I can respond to your questions. But for now I want to leave off with that plea. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:21, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
::::::::Because you never approved the divider template, I reverted to marking USUM-exclusive items with {{sup/7|USUM}} because I dislike seeing table sources haphazardly mixing beautiful template transclusions with pure, raw, ugly wikicode that would have only made the page source aesthetically more ugly (and less understandable to novice wiki editors) and more expensive in terms of byte storage (and I stress this as a former C++/Java student programmer, where both code efficiency and aesthetics are paramount). And because I am afraid that, if I let you put everything there yourself, you would later protect the page from further edits, I resorted to provisionally plugging there everything, along with a little “protest note” in the page-edit history (not in the article itself — that would be rude, plus any disputes should be kept away from article content so that innocent page visitors and source viewers remain oblivious of our misunderstandings) explaining the sore need to update the footer template. Whenever someone approves the divider template, then I would remove the {{sup/7|USUM}} from item names and plug the divider transclusion there. That is all and enjoy your rest; now I leave to finish my copy of {{gameabbrev7|UM}}. ‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''SilSinn'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 23:52, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::Usability beats a little bit of storage any day. But I realized a better reason for altogether forgoing a divider: the tables are sortable, and a divider just doesn't work with sorting. (At this point, I'd still rather something that stands out a little better, but I'm not going to agonize over it.)
:::::::::FWIW I am also updating the footer (but not the same as your template did it). I don't like so many different notations, but I feel that it is indeed more appropriate due to the lack of a divider at this point.
:::::::::Otherwise, it doesn't sound to me like you wish to converse any more, so I will proceed on my own. If you have any issues, I would appreciate you bringing them up here before trying to force it on the page. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:42, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::If you want USUM-exclusive items to stand out a little better (and {{sup/7|USUM}} isn’t enough), then I would suggest modifying [[Template:Fashion/s]] to allow one to tweak the row’s background color, as long as the text in it is still legible. That was an idea that came to my mind when I had made Fashion/su, but for some reason didn’t do it, and since I already requested the deletion of that Fashion/su template thinking that we had agreed on using a divider (which now is false for the sortability reason you pointed out), I am not going to meddle with it anymore. Whether you want to add that parameter for background color, it’s up to you (and same for Fashion item images, for which you did create five new templates), but now I move on to other topics — my work on Fashion items is done and I am already tired for today. The ball is now in your court. ''Thankee!'' Bye. ‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''SilSinn'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 01:17, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

== Pokémon Let's Go fashion items ==

After all this contentious discussion about {{gameabbrev7|USUM}} [[Fashion item]]s, something came to my mind: I don’t see anyone doing stuff related to {{gameabbrev7|PE}} fashion items (or clothing, or apparel, or whatever they are called). And because I don’t play any Let’s Go title (for the [[User:SilSinn9801#Not Considering to Play|reasons pointed out in my userpage]]), I will not worry about this matter. And because [[Pressure (ability)|your mind must be right now]] on incorporating images into the USUM fashion item tables, I will not bother you with this but rather let someone else (preferably someone with hands-on experience in playing PE) [[Head Smash (move)|break his/her head]] on this. ‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''SilSinn'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 01:26, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

== As a final note... ==

...given that you are an admin, you should protect your userpage (like [[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] has done) from unwanted edits by unscrupulous users (or their sockpuppets, if any) or anyone who might hold a {{m|Grudge}} against you. It is standard practice for wiki admins. (Myself, I am an admin of a [https://river-monsters.wikia.com/wiki/User:SilSinn9801 Wikia-hosted wiki on the TV show River Monsters], and the very first advice I got after being promoted to admin, which was not long ago, was to protect my userpage.) ‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''SilSinn'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 02:29, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

== Battle Mode (Colosseum) Page ==

I'm going to try to adhere to protocol this time: I have the data from my previous editing of the Battle Mode (Colosseum) page (which does differ from the Battle Now page). I believe I am to ask an administrator such as yourself about if you can create that page that I would be able to edit and contribute. If I need to go about this differently, ask from a different spot than your user talk page, etc., please let me know. Thank you very much. [[User:ScottOshawott|ScottOshawott]] ([[User talk:ScottOshawott|talk]]) 00:21, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
:It's fine to ask a staff member directly. And yes, you can create the Battle Mode page. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:45, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
::Perfect, thank you so much for your help (and your patience).[[User:ScottOshawott|ScottOshawott]] ([[User talk:ScottOshawott|talk]]) 05:33, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

==Reply to the message in Mewtwo123456789 talk page==
I added a lot of stats because I like making fake stats which I always wanted to do and change Pokémon so I done it because I knew I won't be able to take over the Pokémon company so I just done this. If I make page I will get banned so I thought I should do it in sandbox.

[[User:Mewtwo123456789|Mewtwo123456789]] ([[User talk:Mewtwo123456789|talk]]) 10:46, 20 January 2019 (UTC)Mewtwo123456789
:Replied at [[User talk:Mewtwo123456789#Bulbapedia:Sandbox]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:01, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

== Welcome message ==

If I see a user who has already started editing but hasn't yet created his/her/its own talk page, can I create that talk page and put the welcome message in it? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:02, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
:Any user who has edited should receive the welcome template. Please be sure to follow the directions as shown on {{template|Welcome}}. If you are doing it for the first time, be sure to preview and try to be sure it looks correct. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:06, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
::Okay. Done. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:21, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

== Xerneas Neutral mode ==

I saw that you reverted the edit that I made about removing Xerneas' alternate form from its infobox. I wrote a brief, detailed explanation about why I felt that this change was necessary on the article's talk page, but I couldn't find where you wrote your reason for reverting it, besides the "''Infoboxes show forms...''" comment in the history. For a variety of reasons, I don't think that that is a good enough justification for keeping the page the way it was.

Among other things, Xerneas is the only Pokemon page that has a game sprite listed as an alternate form, instead of using official artwork. The "infoboxes have to show forms" rule also seems to be irregularly applied, as other Pokemon with form differences don't get the same treatment, Magearna being the one of most note.

Personally, I don't care which way the page stays, I just want it to be consistent with that of the other Pokemon articles. If you're adamant about keeping Xerneas' Neutral mode listed in the infobox, would it then be alright if I add the alternate form sprites of other Pokemon to their pages too? Such as to Magearna or Gourgeist? --[[User:ImNotGoodAtPasswords|ImNotGoodAtPasswords]] ([[User talk:ImNotGoodAtPasswords|talk]]) 01:02, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
:I'm just gonna ask this to start...
:Can you list all the pages you think are missing forms? (In short, all the pages you would modify if I just answered yes right now to your last question.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:46, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

::In my opinion, I think the most logical approach would be to include all Pokemon that appear on [[list of Pokémon with form differences|this page]] that ''also'' already have their sprites listed on their own pages. So, it seems that it would be Genesect, Pumpkaboo, Gourgeist and Magearna that need to be updated. If we remove that second requirement, than we would also change Unown, Arceus, Fufrou, Vivillon and Silvally.

::For obvious reasons, I think I would prefer if we didn't update ''any'' of the pages and just went back to hiding sprites from the infobox, but if this is the route we're going then those first four should be changed at the very least. --[[User:ImNotGoodAtPasswords|ImNotGoodAtPasswords]] ([[User talk:ImNotGoodAtPasswords|talk]]) 02:07, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
:::I really can't tell what you mean when you talk about "that ''also'' already have their sprites listed on their own pages". I don't know what it would be that's different between Genesect and Unown in that regard. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:36, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
::::Unown, for example only has 2 sprite sets listed on the Sprites section of its page - a single default form and shiny variant for it. Genesect, on the other hand has 10 sprite sets. All 5 form variants as well as the shiny variants. Again, this seems like something else that is needlessly inconsistent across the site. I see no good reason why Pokemon such Genesect and Pumpkaboo have all of their sprite sets listed, but Pokemon like Arceus and Furfrou don't. Surely the evolution chart should more than suffice, but I digress.

::::I never realized just how erratic this site is when it comes to handling alternate forms, but while doing research for this comment I see that it is all just one giant mess. Some Pokemon have their forms individually listed in the infobox (Wishiwashi, Mimikyu), while others just carelessly lump them together (Aegislash, Meowstic, Gastrodon). Some Pokemon list their different forms in the Sprites section, but not in the infobox (Genesect, Magearna), while others are the exact opposite (Pichu). And then you have some that do neither (Arceus, Furfrou). Personally, I think the entire way that this site handles how forms are covered should be updated, and an actual, proper set of guidelines should be written. To get back to the original topic at hand, however, if it were up to me I would start by making game sprites exclusive to the Sprites section of a page, and not be included in the infobox, the way it has been handled with Xerneas. Keeping it the way it currently is just opens up a can of worms that makes the entire thing even more confusing. --[[User:ImNotGoodAtPasswords|ImNotGoodAtPasswords]] ([[User talk:ImNotGoodAtPasswords|talk]]) 06:26, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
:::::Dual images like {{p|Meowstic}} are usually because that's official art.
:::::I'm not sure what you think {{p|Pichu}} is actually missing.
:::::I'm also not sure what two things ("neither") you think {{p|Arceus}} and {{p|Furfrou}} don't do since you made two complaints and I'm not sure either applies. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:30, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
::::::Arceus, Furfrou, Unown, Genesect, and Vivilon don't have their forms in their infobox because there are ''too many'' to put in the infobox. Hence why it's only in the sprite sections. We do not want the infobox to be bloated with images. Rotom is the maximum amount of forms we will allow on an infobox.
::::::The formes that get shown in the infobox are the ones that actually make a difference to the Pokémon (different moveset, different stats, etc), not those that are purely aesthetic like Magearna or Pumpkaboo.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:02, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

{{indent}} >Dual images like Meowstic are usually because that's official art.

Yeah, the other stuff like Arceus (and co.) not having its forms listed in either the Sprite section or infobox of its page were a bit of a tangent, but when it gets down to it I think this right here is the main issue (among ''many'') that I have with the way the Xerneas page is being handled. If there exists ''no'' official artwork of Xerneas' neutral mode then there should be ''no'' reason for it to appear in the infobox. The way I see it, either the Xerneas sprite should stay in the infobox and then Magearna and others should have their pages updated, or the sprite should be removed and everything else stays the same. Out of hundreds of Pokemon articles, dozens of which have form differences, I see no justifiable reason why Xerneas would be the ''only'' Pokemon on the entire site to have a sprite in its infobox.

This specific conversation is dragging on a bit, and I feel that I'm starting to repeat myself a bit, haha. I think I've made all the arguments that I can make, so I'll probably cut it off here. If, after this entire conversation, you're still insistent on keeping the Xerneas sprite displayed in its infobox, I'd appreciate it if at the very least you could post a quick response to mine on the Xerneas talk page, explaining your reasons why. For the sake of any future users who might have the same concerns, and so other users besides myself could possibly chime in on the discussion. Cheers.

Edit: @ForceFire, you added your piece as I was just about to submit mine, so I just wanted to ask this last question before I go. In what way is Neutral Xerneas different from Original Magearna? Unless I've missed something, it seems that both forms are purely aesthetic, so I see no reason why one should have an infobox sprite while the other doesn't. And Pumpkaboo/Gourgeist's forms ''do'' have an effect on the base stats of the Pokemon, so surely by these rules the Xerneas sprite should be removed while the Pumpkaboo/Gourgeist infobox gets updated, no? --[[User:ImNotGoodAtPasswords|ImNotGoodAtPasswords]] ([[User talk:ImNotGoodAtPasswords|talk]]) 08:21, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
:You are greatly mistaken in thinking that the infobox is for official art only. The fact that you see art in most other infoboxes does not at all mean that that is the only thing that's allowed to be used in them. That's a bad assumption on your part. If we didn't have art of alternate forms for ANY other Pokemon, should we leave them all out? Or hell, if we didn't have any art at all of some Pokemon? Absolutely not.
:There absolutely are instances where we have used a sprite in a Pokemon's infobox. We don't always have art. The infobox is to show forms. There is no source-based condition for how that is allowed to happen.
:You're right that this conversation is getting complicated. I'm not going to try to touch on the other aspects of it for the moment. Since you've brought your first point back to the forefront, let's try to resolve it before returning to your demands stemming from your dissatisfaction. If I have resolved the question of your first point now, please tell me so clearly.
:(And insofar as you're right that it's complicated, I'd like not to be having different branches of conversations on this page between several different users. If you're insistent on getting ForceFire's opinion, I'd appreciate if you resolved that on ForceFire's page. It's much easier for me to only have to handle my own threads of thought on my talk page. I would be happy to address similar concerns if it comes to it, but if the conversation between you and I will get there, it will happen in its own time.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:52, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

== How can I upload a file? ==

When I click the "upload file" link on the left side of the page, it links to a Bulbagarden Archives page that says I have no permission. Why don't I have permission? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:00, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
:You have to be autoconfirmed on the Archives. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:43, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
::How do I get autoconfirmed? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:14, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
:::[[a:FAQ]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:59, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
::::Okay thanks. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:21, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

== New draft article: [[User:SilSinn9801/List of Pokémon that appear in only one regional Pokédex|List of Pokémon that appear each in only one regional Pokédex]] ==

I just made this draft article which I would like an admin like you to consider for mainspacing:
* [[User:SilSinn9801/List of Pokémon that appear in only one regional Pokédex]]
Each Pokémon in my draft list above has so far appeared in just one regional Pokédex (the one that debuted in its corresponding generation), as opposed to [[List of Pokémon that appear in every regional Pokédex|those who appeared in every regional Pokédex to date]] and [[List of Pokémon that do not appear in any regional Pokédex|those who appeared in none]]. Because all of the original 151 Kanto Pokémon also appeared in the Johto Pokédex, none of them is in my list above, thus leaving Meltan and Melmetal as the sole representatives of Kanto in such a list. Also not on this list are those Pokémon that appeared in at least two regional Pokédices (because I do not like to say Pokédexes), even if they did not appear in every Pokédex.

If this list is mainspaced, then the {{template|pokelist}} navbox template would have to be updated to include this list. That is all. ‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''SilSinn'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') [[User talk:SilSinn9801|💬]] 06:02, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
:Just to get it out of the way "each" isn't needed.
:Otherwise, I suppose it seems like a "maybe". I'll see. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:44, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
::OK, I’ll rename it as you suggest. ‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''SilSinn'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') [[User talk:SilSinn9801|💬]] 06:33, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
::[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] put the {{template|mainspace}} template on top of my page. I do not know if it is safe for me to rename the page while it has the template on top. ‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''SilSinn'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') [[User talk:SilSinn9801|💬]] 06:43, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
::I just renamed the page as per your suggestion:
::* [[User:SilSinn9801/List of Pokémon that appear in only one regional Pokédex]]
::‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''SilSinn'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') [[User talk:SilSinn9801|💬]] 08:21, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
::I was considering removing this phrase from the proposed article above:
::<blockquote>“(in other words, each Pokémon in this list appears in one regional Pokédex but not in the others)”</blockquote>
::Can I remove it while it is still in userspace? ‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''SilSinn'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') [[User talk:SilSinn9801|💬]] 19:28, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
:::I'm not sure why you think there's a problem with editing a page more or less like any other. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:56, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
::::I am just asking your opinion on whether that phrase I quoted above from the beginning of my proposed article is necessary or not. Does it clarify something, or is it somewhat redundant with regard to the sentence that preceded it (and thus unnecessary on grounds that it was repeating something already stated in a different manner)? Maybe if you read the first paragraph on my article, you might see if there are redundant phrases (in your opinion) that I should delete. ‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''SilSinn'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') [[User talk:SilSinn9801|💬]]
:::::I think you should edit what you want for now, and I'll edit what I may want when I'm prepared to. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:44, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Thank you for protecting my page but it's fine if someone edits my page, especially my friend - Team Rocket Grunt. Anyway, that was very nice. Btw, are you an owner or OR/AS game? I am trying to make contest category move table and really feel that there is a mistake with Jump Kick...--[[User:Dominikololo|Dominikololo]] ([[User talk:Dominikololo|talk]]) 14:37, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
:I tried to look for anything where you and Team Rocket Grunt had communicated about it, but I couldn't find it. I'll remember now. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:44, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

== Images not from Archives ==

Can Bulbapedia pages display images that are not from Bulbagarden Archives? If yes, how? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:14, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
:No. All images must come from the archives.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:30, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
::Okay thanks. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:42, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
:::Does that mean that external images (hosted outside Bulbagarden) are not allowed? Not even from PhotoBucket? ‑‑[[User:SilSinn9801|''SilSinn'']] ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') [[User talk:SilSinn9801|💬]] 06:45, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
::::On articles themselves, which is what I assumed sumwun meant, no. It's fine to link them on talk pages.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:53, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
:::::Are outside images allowed on user pages? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:42, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

== Galarian Kahunas and Trial Captains ==

We don't know if [[Galar]] will have any Gyms. The region may also lack Gyms like [[Alola]] or have both Gyms, Trials, and Kahunas. From, Sean 00:54, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
:Pokemon website says there are "various Gyms".--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:38, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

== Template protection ==

I was wondering if {{template|Team Plasma}} could be unprotected? It was protected years ago, but I'm pretty confident that whatever the reason behind its protection was, it's long since passed. Do you think the template could be unprotected? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:54, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
:I suspect you're right, but I'll try to see what anyone else remembers about it before touching it for now. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:05, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
::Thank you. The template's edit history could maybe help. I hope this won't take too long. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:38, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

== Please Help Clarify ==

I've only made one contribution so far to this wiki and not even 24 hours later I get a message saying it was altered and later my whole section I had contributed was deleted altogether. Despite using proper grammar and using the correct template for the edit. The section in question that I contributed towards was for Ash's Pikachu's Personality & characteristics. I don't understand what rules I've broken or what I did wrong in my edit. Please help clarify this deletion done by GrammarFreak01 --[[User:RosesForBeautifly1995|RosesForBeautifly1995]] ([[User talk:RosesForBeautifly1995|talk]]) 06:07, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

:I removed that section because it just wasn't that notable, not to mention it was poorly written and formatted. There is absolutely no need to describe any Pokémon's relationship to anyone else unless it is super-specific and consistent throughout an entire [[series]]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 14:23, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

== Species-specific information ==

A while ago, you removed information from species pages like Dugtrio [[Special:Diff/2746518|here]]. I disagree, and instead agree with SnorlaxMonster [[Special:Diff/2603946|who added it]], and would ask you to reconsider your edits and/or participate in the discussion going on [[Talk:Unown (Pokémon)#New forms section|here]]. Thank you. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:50, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

== Scents ==

Since [[Special:Diff/2310761|you added]] this line to the [[Heart Gauge]] page, I was hoping you could clarify it.
:''In the case of Scents, the Scent used further affects the amount by which the Heart Gauge decreases. The Joy Scent multiplies the appropriate value below by 1, the Excite Scent multiplies it by 2, and the Vivid Scent multiplies it by 3.''
As written, I would interpret this to mean that an event that normally provides a boost of X instead provides a boost of <code>M*X</code>, where M is the scent multiplier. However, this interpretation would mean that the Joy Scent is useless, as <code>1*X</code> would still just be <code>X</code>.

Therefore, I would think that instead it's trying to say that an event that would normally provide a boost of X instead provides a boost of <code>M*X + X</code> (which would just be <code>(M+1)*X</code>). Is this correct? And if so, I think it would be better to describe the multipliers as 2, 3, and 4 rather than 1, 2, and 3. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:58, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
:Okay, I just realized I misunderstood the page. I had assumed that Scents were multiplying other events, but instead they are events themselves. Feel free to ignore this message. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:02, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

== Permission to link to other users' videos? ==

Hi, I looked at the history of [[List of glitches in Generation II]], and I noticed you [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=List_of_glitches_in_Generation_II&diff=next&oldid=2761482 undid someone's edit] with the reason being they haven't asked for permission from the YouTube channel they used. Is there a policy prohibiting this? I don't see anything wrong, not even copyright, because [[User:KirbyMario12345|KirbyMario12345]] simply linked a YouTube video to the section, which is actually helpful because you can't hear text. If there's really a policy prohibiting that, I will try to reproduce the glitch and record it. Thanks, [[User:Pandakekok|pandakekok]] ([[User talk:Pandakekok|talk]]) 10:19, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

== Testing on Showdown! ==

Is it true that I can't add battle mechanics to Bulbapedia if I test them on Pokemon Showdown!, not in a real game? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/Sumwun|contribs]]) 19:18, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
:Showdown is not the games and has to be corrected at times. They may test and investigate things themselves and try to get them right, but there's really no guarantee that their ''simulation'' covers whatever you decide you want to test next correctly. It is always safest to just test in the games; then there is no question of faithfulness. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:23, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
::Okay thanks. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/Sumwun|contribs]]) 20:30, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

== Itemlist/2 ==

I don't think the use of that template outside of its intended purpose would be confusing. It wouldn't be the only template here that's used outside of the purpose it was originally created to fulfill. May I ask, why do you see its use outside of the purpose you designed it for as unfitting? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:32, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
:Sorry, you didn't leave off on your page like you necessarily wanted a response. [[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92#Itemlist/2|Resumed]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:47, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
::It's okay. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:57, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

==Template:Learnlist/levelh/6==
This template probably should be updated for Gen VIII.
[[User:PKMN Trainer Ryan|PKMN Trainer Ryan]] ([[User talk:PKMN Trainer Ryan|talk]]) 01:45, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
:Well, I've checked it out...and I don't know why you only pointed out levelh/6, all the learnlist headers should need it. But I'll try to work them out soon (ish). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:35, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

==Protected template:Spritebox/8==
Why is this page protected from creation? Is it because this wiki only wants admins to create such pages? [[User:Tag365|Tag365]] ([[User talk:Tag365|talk]]) 05:45, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
:Users are welcome to create templates in their own userspace, but templates should as a rule be approved before being used in the mainspace. (That's only ignored for certain more common things, like Pokemon nav templates for anime characters.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:33, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

== I have not edited here very often lately so I might have forgotten ==

I also want to ask you something. I made an edit to [[Bianca (anime)]] but got reverted with no explanation. The user who reverted me so happens to often revert edits without explaining. I also got my edits reverted by the user on [[BW066]] during 22 November 2018 from the history, as well as [[Team Plasma]]. I took the latter to talkpage (about six months after the revert) but frustratingly got no response. You seem to have a rank. Can you look into this and help? It is irritating me. It seems I rarely get a response from admins when I go on their talkpages. [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 10:25, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
:OK, I'll get into it later today.
:(As a reminder, don't forget to re-add the archive links on your talk page.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:41, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
::As far as Bianca, I don't really deal with the anime so I don't really know what to tell you about your edit overall. It does seem to me there's some missing "connective tissue" (whether with your edit or not), but again, I don't really know what the standards are. Your best bet would be to either talk to the person who undid your edit (and yes, some kind of explanation in the reversion would've been great) and/or bring it up on Bianca's talk page.
::For BW066, if the dub referred to it as curly hair, I can understand wanting to use that term. IMO it's not a big deal, but if you still think it's important, I'll check with other staff to see if there's reason enough to prefer the dub term.
::With Team Plasma, I'd say that since the page just describes the situation with BW023/24 generally and doesn't mention the grunts, an image isn't necessary. There are images on the episode pages which are linked in the text, and on the grunt page if someone's actually interested in that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:07, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

== Catch rate ==

Hey, I see that you [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Catch_rate&curid=808&diff=3172430&oldid=3172236 removed] the line in the catch rate page saying that the level doesn't influence the odds. While I understand it makes sense that we don't go disclaiming every little thing that isn't true or that doesn't influence a certain mechanic, I also think that it may be a good thing to do so in certain cases, specially for these somewhat widespread misconceptions. We already do so in the [[Friendship#Misconceptions|Friendship]] page, for exemple, and even the very next paragraph in the Catch rate page is a disclaimer about the influence of rarity.

Anyway, I wonder if you would consider adding the sentence back? Or perhaps rephrasing it in a way you see more fitting? [[User:Suic12-|Suic]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 00:48, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
:Hm, that line about "rarity" is actually pretty awkward...
:I think because friendship/"happiness" is an intuitive term, misconceptions are a little easier so there's pretty good reason to address some of those. As far as catch rate, I'm honestly not sure what misconceptions are out there. I suppose you know more about this, so can you tell me what else might apply? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:26, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
::I don't know that much more, really. The best examples I can think of are actually just those regarding level and "rarity". There is also the belief that pressing a given sequence of buttons might make a difference somehow, but I think that's already going too deep in the rabbit hole. The thing is that level and rarity are reasonable misconceptions, someone playing the games might easily notice that some rarer or higher leveled Pokémon appear to be harder to catch (some Legendary Pokémon, for example) and believe that these factors are related, and I've seen a good amount of people thinking this was the case. [[User:Suic12-|Suic]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 13:32, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
:::I'm going to trust your perspective for now. We'll hope it doesn't turn into a mess. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:09, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
::::The way you wrote it seems to work just fine. I imagine there shouldn't be any future problems in this matter. [[User:Suic12-|Suic]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 22:42, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

==Multiple edits==
Hi! I tried to make just one edit, but the page thinked I wanted to vandalize the page. I tried to say that in the Discussion page and contact somebody and after a couple of days, nothing happen, so I thinked the only way was to make various minor edits, in this way the page would not block me or thinking I wanted to vandalize--[[User:Zarxiel94|Zarxiel94]] ([[User talk:Zarxiel94|talk]]) 18:12, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

== This is not the purpose of talk pages ==

Why do you refuse to use the Bulbapedia {{bp|Sandbox}} to test templates there, like with [[User:Tiddlywinks/Movegen/WB|this one]]? --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006]]'''''[[User talk:Bfdifan2006|something to say?]] 08:16, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
:"Not the purpose of talk pages"? Is it not obvious that we don't mind in the case of such templates?
:So very many potential templates already do it. To be frank, I suppose it may be more of a problem for regular users (and I don't mean an "infraction" kind of problem; more like "logistical") where feedback may go more easily on the template's talk page, whereas, as staff, I just get feedback on Discord; but people can still comment at the end of the talk page (I believe someone did on some page previously) or on a user's base talk page (which gets their attention more directly).
:The problem with the sandbox is that so many people already forget about whatever they put on there. Previously, I think it could even be a problem to save an edit. And it's nice to have a dedicated page to show your examples. It's also nice for the page to be connected to your template at such a fundamental level, so you don't have to do anything special to get between them. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:14, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
::Okay, thanks, but I think this should be added to the talk page policy. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006]]'''''[[User talk:Bfdifan2006|something to say?]] 15:11, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

== Mew glitch redlinks ==

[[User talk:Bfdifan2006#Capitalization]]: The only page left is [[User talk:TTEchidna/Archive Nov 08 2]], but it is protected. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006]]'''''[[User talk:Bfdifan2006|something to say?]] 16:53, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

== Officer Jenny ==

Hello
Tom Wayland confirmed eons ago that Jenny was done by Emily, and Lipica's name did not appear at all in the credits of episodes with Jenny in it until BW112.
So this supports that Emily did her from bw006 to bw101 and Lipica did her from BW112 to BW138.
So bourth sources (Tom Wayland and the statement by Shaw) are true.
I wish i hadn't been banned from twitter due to mistaken identity as I planned on contacting Emily again.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 03:14, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
:We cannot trust people simply coming to us and making some claim. There must be some verifiable proof. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:04, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
Look at the credits. Does Shaw appear in bw006 or bw101, or anywhere in between outside of the Elesa episodes? the answer is no. Who does apear in all of Jenny's BW episodes prior to BW112? Emily!
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 15:56, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Force Fire/Archive 11

2020-06-14T15:52:32Z

African Vulture: /* officer Jenny is not voiced by Lipica Shaw pre bw112 */ new section

{{User:Force Fire/Archive}}

== Sun2020 ==

Hey! I have a strong reason to believe {{user|Sun2020}} is yet ''another'' sockpuppet of {{user|Kittystyler}}. Sun2020's writing style for [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ash_Ketchum&type=revision&diff=3088750&oldid=3088687 this edit] to [[Ash Ketchum]] is extremely reminiscent of Kittystyler's old writing style for [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ash_Ketchum&type=revision&diff=2955518&oldid=2955392 this edit] to the same article. Do you think you can look into it? Thank you! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:20, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
:Why does Kittystyler refuse to give up? I find these repeated comebacks very tiresome. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 21:25, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
::Because they're a troll, especially considering they refused to even acknowledge the existence of their original talk page when they were still active here. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:28, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
:::They were indeed Kittystyler and have been dealt with.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:46, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
::::Okay, thanks! :D [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:09, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

== Archive 10 ==

I removed the link to an image that doesn't exist on the Archives in the topic I wrote. [[Special:Diff/3090821]] --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''キー''']][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|'''Ａ''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''コン''']] 10:08, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

== Template approval ==

If you have the time, please let me know if {{red link|User:Daniel Carrero/Puzzle}} needs anything to be approved (any change in contents, layout, etc.). If/when possible, I'd like it to be moved back to the template namespace. I also asked about aproving it on Discord, though I'm still waiting to see if anyone will reply there.

I created that template and used it in these pages:

* [[List of puzzles (PPL)]]
* [[List of puzzles (PPC)]]

--[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 16:30, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
:I think asking staff who has more knowledge on the side games would give a better opinion.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:57, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

== Pseudo-legendary ==

Hi Force Fire, thanks for adding Dragapult to the [[Pseudo-legendary Pokémon]] article (which I requested on Discord since I don't have edit access). The box for Dragapult is bigger than the other boxes in the first section, though. [[User:Qzekrom|Qzekrom]] ([[User talk:Qzekrom|talk]]) 18:55, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
:You're welcome. I'm aware that the Dragapult image is large, I did try to resize it to make it smaller (as to make the template even with the others) but felt that it made the image look too small and unidentifiable, so I just left it as is.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:57, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
:: Is there a way make it smaller for the section that shows all [[Pseudo-legendary Pokémon]] together? It jsut getting clutter up and hard to see them all.--[[User:Jacob9594|Jacob Kogan]] ([[User talk:Jacob9594|talk]]) 05:59, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
:::That's the section I was talking about. Felt that making the Dragapult image smaller made the image unidentifiable.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:05, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

== Two things ==

# Why did you revert me at those pages about types?
# I'm still waiting for approval of these pages:
#* [[User:TheICTLiker4/E O]]
#* [[User:TheICTLiker4/Template:NewMove]]
Please respond quickly. --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''TheI''']][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|'''CTLi''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''ker4''']] 08:30, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
:#Mass updates involving multiple article must be approved by a staff member. You can't just do as you please.
:#None of those are up to standards, especially the latter.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:09, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
::#Okay. I will follow this rule, even while moving pages.
::#Both pages are marked for mainspacing, and they're awaiting approval. “[...] especially the latter” — you are wrong, as some content is hidden by <includeonly> because if not, the page would be in categories reserved for move pages, and [[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] has fixed that. --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''TheI''']][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|'''CTLi''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''ker4''']] 18:58, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
:::Granted I didn't really look at the coding and just saw the template as is and thought that it looked incomplete and far too different to that actual "NewX" templates that we have.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 01:48, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
::::But what about the first page I listed in this subject ([[User:TheICTLiker4/E O]])? --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''TheI''']][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|'''CTLi''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''ker4''']] 20:00, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

== What's the point? ==

Why did you revert my episode title changes? SM003 is CLEARLY a pun, that's not difficult to see at all. We've added pun titles before. So why not now? And the others were put in the correct order of the Japanese title (not the translations of them) and added with words that needed to be added, like "region", when region is clearly in the title and has been included in other episode titles that had the Japanese characters for the word "region" in them before? Why stop now? We don't NEED to rely off translations from people over at Serebii. Other people CAN add titles as well. If there's a problem with them, at the very least explain why, I'm so annoyed with you being angry at me. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 09:43, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
:And I've done nothing wrong to deserve this from just a single admin. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 09:45, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
::I rolled back your edit on the episode list article based off your SM003 edit. The other changes, while questionable, were fine. As for SM003, as we discussed before, not everything is a pun. "Fushigi da ne" can be an actual phrase. Just because "fushigi" is in the title, doesn't automatically make it a pun.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:01, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

== Template edit request ==

Given the fact that Go is on a pretty constant catching spree, should the category for episodes in which a main character obtains a new Pokémon be included in the new episode template? Kinda like how the category for Mythical Pokémon appearances was included in it while Ash had Meltan/Melmetal in his active team? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:24, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
:I've brought up the suggestion with the other staff members.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:43, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
::Having the category there before the episode airs is a bit assumptious, especially if said episode isn't an episode where Go catches anything. So the category is not going in the template.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:23, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

== Noise Reduction on Gen 8 Pokemon images ==

I've done some easy experimenting with noise reduction on the grainy Pokemon images in photoshop, with much improved quality. Was wondering if there was any reason this hasn't been done already. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 05:42, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

== Pichu Posse members ==

Dear ForceFire,

I've been in the process of reviewing the appearances of the Pichu Brothers and their associates in the anime. However I noticed there were some Pokémon listed on the Pichu Brothers page as members of the Posse who wouldn't fit the description of being a "friend" and are simply recurring wild Pokémon such as Snorlax, Houndour and the Squirtle Squad. Feraligatr and Murkrow other recurring wild Pokémon, that are yet to have a mention anywhere, however their appearances are brief like the others. Should they have separate sections on the [[Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime]] page or should all the recurring Big Town Pokémon be listed on one page with the subsections "Pichu Brothers", "Pichu Posse" and "Other Big Town Pokémon"? Regards, [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 13:41, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

== Why did you undo my Wedgehurst edit? ==

[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Wedgehurst&diff=3097122&oldid=3097003 You didn't even leave a reason why.]] [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:05, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
:It's not notable. The other trainers "not noticing the Slowpoke" isn't notable either. The nurse knowing it isn't suppose to be some in-universe thing. Just like the bulletin boards in Black and White announcing the Pokemon outbreaks, it's not meant to be an in-universe thing where everyone in that universe knows about the outbreak (I don't recall other NPC characters commenting on the B/W outbreaks).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:25, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

== Origins Corrections ==

Hello! I am new to bulbapedia and I saw you reverted some of my changes to the verb conjugation implying uncertainty in two different articles. You mentioned that I would be allowed to do this in the future in the case that I have an official source. What constitutes an official source in this case? I ask because I would be willing to write to someone (maybe a developer?) in order to get confirmation but I do not wish to do this if it is unlikely written confirmation would not count as an official source. Are interviews with developers acceptable? Ideally, if you could link me to some sort of list that includes examples of acceptable sources that would be very helpful for me. Thank you for your time. [[User:DeterministicSpaceRichard|DeterministicSpaceRichard]] ([[User talk:DeterministicSpaceRichard|talk]])
:An interview with the original Japanese (or Western, in James Turner's case) designer is the absolute source. An example would be the interview with Pikachu's designer where she revealed its origin. We don't have a list because interviews with the designers regarding Pokemon origins are scarce.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:54, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

== why did you revert my edit? ==

I'm completely new to editing this wiki and was wondering why you [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ponyta_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=3097546&oldid=3097545 undid my first edit]? You didn't leave a reason in the reversion's edit summary and I didn't think my edit was "bad". Is there some policy about the trivia/name origin section I don't know about? {{unsigned|Twisted Code}}
:I had already removed that previously, as I felt that it was not really necessary to point out.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:28, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
::By that standard, what makes anything else on this wiki "necessary", especially stuff in the trivia section? I don't really understand the line you're drawing, as it seems like it could go either way. Then again, I'm new here so what do I know?¯\_(ツ)_/¯--[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 18:33, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
:::If you don't mind me inserting myself, I think that that's a worthy trivia point. I didn't realize it until reading it here. It's the exact kind of thing I'd expect to see in a trivia section. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 19:31, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
::::Trivia point, sure. Just don't think it's worth pointing out in the name origin section as the line before already conveys what is being said well enough without trying to be witty.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:32, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::maybe we could move the "based on a unicorn" trivia point altogether then? Seems that point being in *specifically* the name origin subsection is the issue. I'd like to point out the pun one way or another, as I thought it was a clever quip from the developers.--[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 13:46, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
::::::Uh... no. That line is meant to be in the origins sections as it's detailing what Galarian Ponyta might be based off. The extra bit about "unique horn" isn't necessary.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:38, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::::... And "unique horn" supports that point that it "might be" based on a unicorn. I don't see what the big deal is here, or why one piece of trivia is more "necessary" than any other piece? Is there some sort of rule against acknowledging puns (even to support another point) or something? --[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 13:21, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::::After a bit of thought and reading [[WP:WP:WIN|one of Wikipedia's (a.k.a. the mother of all wikis or "MOAW") policies concerning impasses like this]], I've decided I'm willing to just leave it go. Mostly because I know you're an admin and I don't feel like challenging the "staff won't bite" claim in the [[template:welcome]] message, but also because this impasse is such an enigma to me that it doesn't feel worthwhile trying to understand it — especially in light of the policy I mentioned (which presumably also applies to any wiki created in the same spirit of collaboration). That said, please register and take into account my STRONG objection to your decision in this matter, and on that note, have a nice day :-)--[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 22:43, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::::Apologies for the late response. It saying that Galarian Ponyta might be based of a Unicorn is suffice enough, without the need to be witty or smart. Like I said, if anything, the pun goes in the main trivia section, not the name origin section. As for the Wikipedia policy, we are not Wikipedia. We do not share the same rules or guidelines (well, we might share some, but not all, and definitely not that one).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:32, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::I accept that explanation, though I'm struggling slightly to reconcile it with my original thinking (though in any case, my initial question is settled). As for the thing about Wikipedia: yes I realize this is not Wikipedia, nor is it a project belonging to Wikimedia; what I meant by what I said was that, as both wikis are, by nature, collaborative projects and that policy is conducive to cooperation, I felt it could be applicable here, not that it would actually be enforced because, as you said, this isn't Wikipedia. Sorry about that, I should've been more clear.--[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 19:10, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

== Sobble's Origin for Trivia Section ==

We know Sobble is based on a chameleon and it says that's it's Water-typing is based on the basilisk lizard, but here's another thing you could add which makes a lot of sense (like how it also connects to water). Below are the reasons/facts and links.

Because of its color scheme and type, Sobble could be based on the Veiled chameleon. Even though it's not aquatic, it has a special adaption to collect water in its habitat where there is little water. This species of chameleon has a casque (the helmet-like protrusion on top of its head) that collects water. At night, droplets of moisture roll down the casque and into the chameleon's mouth.

The way the droplets flow down the Veiled chameleon's face could give the illusion that it's crying which could explain the teardrop markings on Sobble's face. The adult males of this species have defined bands of blue and yellow. Those two colors are part of Sobble's color scheme.

Here are the links for more information: https://animals.sandiegozoo.org/animals/chameleon (As you scroll down, start reading where is says "A water-catching casque.") https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veiled_chameleon

Here is a picture of the adult male Veiled chameleon: https://flchams.com/chameleon/adult-veiled-chameleons-for-sale/ [[User:Macpika|Macpika]] ([[User talk:Macpika|talk]]) 04:02, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
:Its behavior and appearance is similar enough, you can add it if you want to, just remember to use "may be based off" or "appears to be based off" rather than "is based off", since it's still speculation.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:11, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

== Adding Tabs ==

ForceFire,
How do I add tabs to pages? I want to add a trivia tab to a move page, [[G-Max Wind Rage]]. How do I do that?
[[User:PeakA|PeakA]] ([[User talk:PeakA|talk]]) 18:33, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

== How is that correct? ==

[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Chandelure_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&curid=115955&diff=3102742&oldid=3102717] Isn't it pronounced "home-ige"? Thus it should be "a" instead of "an". [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:20, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
:You need to google how to pronounce it. It comes in two English-speaking flavors and isn't worth making a change for. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 17:02, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
::Sorry if I'm being a pest, but the first result I found is literally "hom·age". [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:09, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
:::And underneath that is how to pronounce it. "/ˈ(h)ämij/" [https://www.google.com/search?q=homage+pronunciation&oq=homage+&aqs=chrome.0.69i59l3j69i57j0j69i60l3.3435j1j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 The h is in parentheses for a reason.] If you straight up google 'herb' like you did with homage, you'll get the same thing, even tho we don't say the 'h' at all. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 17:28, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::I think you picked a poor example, because everyone I hear that says "herb" uses the "h". However, it's clear I'm not going to make any progress talking about this, so you'll probably be happy to know that I give up. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:40, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

== Question ==
Do you believe that Ōkido (オーキド) means anything in Japanese? [[User:Wc12271991|Wc12271991]] ([[User talk:Wc12271991|talk]]) 22:19, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

== Pseudo-legendary Pokémon ==
Now that Ash has captured a Dragonite, can you unlock the Pseudo-legendary Pokémon page so I can add that information to it, please? [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 17:40, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
:The pseudo legendary page is '''never''' getting unprotected. If an edit needs to be made, request it on the talk page of the article or go to an admin.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:02, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

== Vandal ==

We have a vandal on the loose. Could you or some other admin do something about them? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:46, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
:Never mind. They were just dealt with. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:46, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

== New page ==

Thank you,ForceFire for helping me out in the talk. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:25, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

== Split ==

Could the Wyndon Stadium article be split to have a subpage for the Champion tournaments the same way as "Pokémon League (Alola)" was split to have a separate subpage for Title Defense? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:41, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
:I've brought the suggestion up to the others. I personally wouldn't mind it being split, since the page is already large.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:14, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you. Please let me know when a decision is made. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:55, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

== Recurring definition? ==

I'm confused. Please explain why {{MTR}} was removed from the recurring wild Pokémon in the anime page? I agree that he is a main character, however he is also a wild Pokémon that has been featured in than one episode, meeting the recurring wild Pokémon criteria. Recurring means just that occurring again. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 13:52, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
:Meowth doesn't appear every now and then, he appears in every episode (bar B/W, but that has already come and gone), which is the direct opposite of being recurring.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:05, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
::Speaking of other things not meeting the criteria … the list of Ash's temporary traveling companions has some questionable additions.

::Ritchie was simply encountered and is listed even though his appearances over three episodes was part of the Team Rocket-Lugia arc, plus Oliver and Luka who appeared during the same period are not.
::Zoey, while she appeared across multiple episodes in Snowpoint City, she simply met up with the group rather than traveled with them.
::Dia is another questionable addition, and while he appeared in two episodes, it was only while Ash was in the alternate dimension. Your thoughts? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 23:21, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Can Mewtwo of the original series be added? It appeared in two main episodes and multiple specials. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 08:36, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Zeraora matches the definition of a recurring wild Pokémon: a wild Pokémon that appears in more than one episode and has some enough notable sort of involvement in the plot. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:46, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
::::I'm not sure if there is a criteria for Ash's temporary travelling companions, but I think the idea should be if they're with Ash for more than three episodes and travel from place to place, they should be added. Which I guess would discount Dia. Get second opinions.
::::I'm not sure if major movie characters count? I know there's Slowking there, but it doesn't play a major role in its movie. As for Zeraora, I think it comes down to how many episode appearances counts as "recurring". I don't think Zeroara as much as most of the Pokemon on the recurring article.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:05, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::I've sought a second opinion. Thanks for the replies on today's queries. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 10:55, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

== BW058? ==

I saw the change made to BW058. However I based those additions on the fact that Gym Leader's Pokémon evolving like [[Roark's Cranidos]] has been listed in the past, plus Chili is a recurring character and also the brother of Cilan. {{unsigned|PardescanSlowbro}}
:Roark's Cranidos evolving is notable as it effects Ash's battle with him. The additions you made to BW058 weren't that major and didn't need to be elaborated on.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:54, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

== Upload problem ==

I belong to the autoconfirmed members group and recently created my userpage. I can't upload any images and it denied permission saying I must be autoconfirmed. Please look into this issue and I also have have a lot of images from the new series, that I want to upload!! [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 11:27, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
:Image uploading is done over at the [https://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page Archives], and you have to be autconfirmed over there. Autoconfirmation on the archives is separate than on Bulbapedia. So you have to make some edits on the Archives to become autoconfirmed.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:40, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you ForceFire for your advice --[[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:37, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

I have a doubt,is there any colour difference between Ash's Pikachu in the Japanese and English dub of the pokémon anime? Can you please say something about it! --[[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:39, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

== About Dinamax/Gigantamax in the anime ==

When a Poké evolves, here it usually says "x took y episodes to evolve" or something. How will you do with Pokémon that reach that level?For example, I'm doing a Gyarados'page for Lance. I put something like Lance's Gyarados took xxx episodes to dinamax (is that the name we should put?)? Where is this kind of information going to be? In the box with the animal's information?Are there any rules or tutorials already done explaining this? I really appreciate it if you can help me.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hilaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 13:54, 02 February 2020 (UTC)
:That's probably not going to be noted in the infobox, we don't note "how long" it took for a Pokemon to Mega Evolve. If anything, that goes into the main history section of the article.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:24, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hilaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 16:08, 02 February 2020 (UTC)

== Champion ==

Lance was mentioned as the Indigo league champion in the preview of SS012. But, the trivia of SS012 has a edit that says he lost his championship somewhere in the middle of the anime. Is it right? --[[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 16:30, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
:Please answer my question quickly [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:10, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
::Trivia has since been removed as it needs to be verified if he states that he's an Elite Four member in the original Japanese version.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:15, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
I'm sorry about that, actually Lance is mentioned as the member of Kanto Elite four by Go in the preview. I checked it and undid the edit in SS012. Hope you wouldn't mind about the undo and thank you, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:20, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
:I've found Japanese sources describing [[AG097]] that describe Lance as an Elite Four member in his Hoenn appearance as well. He indeed hasn't been referred to as a Champion since the Johto era of the anime. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:50, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
::Dhiwakar, please don't add back the trivia until the problem has been resolved. Finnish, if someone can find the Japanese episode and confirm it, I think that would be solid evidence.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 17:02, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
: Okay ForceFire, I assure you I would not add it in the trivia until it is solved. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 17:09, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
: If you don't mind, I shall ask something. Lance was mentioned as the member of Kanto Elite four in the preview of SS012. Isn't it enough to solve the problem? [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 16:54, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
::I'm afraid you're missing the point here. We're trying to solve if he was referred to as an Elite Four members Pokémon in [[AG097]], because that affects the piece of trivia you're wanting to add to SM012. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:02, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
: I get it now,thank you FinnishPokéFan92. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 05:45, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

== Question, out of curiosity ==

When you customize a signature, does that affect signatures that have been already submitted ''before'' said customization? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:08, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
:No. The new signatures comes into affect after you've changed it.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:29, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
::Okay, thanks. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:38, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

== Delete, please ==

I recently moved Porygon's evolution category, following its Evolution item's new formatting. Could you delete the unnecessary redirect that was formed in the process? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:48, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:02, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
::Now I've moved the category for Elite Four members' Pokémon to remove an unnecessary uppercase "M". Could you remove the redirect? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:23, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:01, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

== Colour difference ==

Is thre any difference between Ash's Pikachu in the Japanese and English dub of the anime. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:40, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
:Please answer this question, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:53, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
::Not too sure what you mean here. Could be a number of factors.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:45, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Sorry about that, i forgot to mention the word colour inthe above question. It was actually, " Is there any colour difference between Ash's Pikachu in the Japanese and English dub of the anime?". [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 08:37, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
:Not that I'm aware of.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:31, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:20, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

== Debut uncertainty ==

For movie 22, should cases like Gary's Pokémon on his page or Mewtwo on Viridian Gym's page have their debut appearances listed to be their main series debuts or M22? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:44, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
:Whichever one aired first in Japan. M01 (I believe aired first before EP063). Not M22.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:45, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

== User page ==

I want to move the usertag box to the right corner of my page. But I don't know how to do it. Can you please help with this!I won't edit it if you say it today itself,because I have already done three edits in my userpage!! [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 09:53, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
:The code containing the tags should go above everything.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:31, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
I can't understand completely, can you show me a pic of it, please. Thank you ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:20, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
:The table containing all your usertags should be placed '''above''' the first section. I.e. just swap the placement of your sections around.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:58, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Can you see if have done it correctly, unfortunately I have wasted my edits and unable to delete the excess points and thank you, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 05:30, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
:It's fine.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:03, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
: Thanks a lot, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 09:42, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

== Dynamax ==

Isn't Pikachu Dynamaxing without going into it's pokéball, important? If it is too specific,it is notable right? I also have an intuition, that it has something to do with Eternatus. Moreover, it is supposed to go into the trivia. Thank you, ForceFire [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:12, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
:No, it isn't notable. It doesn't matter whether Pikachu returned to his Poke Ball or not.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:31, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks again, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:54, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

== Magearna ==

Pokémon HOME reveals that Shiny Magearna doesn't have any paint on it, like the Magearna from the Sun & Moon series. Should it be considered a Shiny Magearna in the light of this new information? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:44, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
:I would think so, if it's the most recent design of the Shiny form.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:40, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
::It is. [https://66.media.tumblr.com/4870664d714ac276fbb98e9a9d72afb8/eec1975ebfa88305-2d/s540x810/0258c33075f759d2fd334cceb64a1dd429db6f86.png Here] is an image I found of the Shiny Magearna Sprite from HOME, while [[:File:Mohn Magearna.png|here]] in an image of the S&M series Magearna. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:25, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Based on those images, do I have your permission to classify Magearna as a Shiny in the anime? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:37, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
::::I'd say it's fine to classify it as a Shiny form of Magearna.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:21, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:58, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

== Ash's Dynamax Band ==

Ash doesn't seem to wear the Dynamax band, continuously like the Z-Ring in the new series. Is it to be noted in the major events of SS014. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:00, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
:No. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:19, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
:Ash not wearing his Z-Ring anymore wasn't a major event. And it's likely he'll just wear it when he's in Galar and can actually use it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:20, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
I wasn't asking about the Z-Ring. I just wanted to ask about the Dynamax Band, whether not wearing it continuously must be noted, if not in major events atleast in trivia! Hope you understand. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 16:13, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
:I used Z-Ring as a comparison. And him not continuously wearing it is definitely not major event worthy. Not sure about trivia worthiness either, but we'll see. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:16, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, FinnishPokéFan [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:46, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
:Sorry about that edit, ForceFire. I added it because FinnishPokéFan92 was not sure about trivia worthiness,also I didn't do it on purpose. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:02, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

== Help me ==

I am getting a blank of space in my userpage. How can remove it? If you want a clear picture of my query,see my userpage. Thank you, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 17:28, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
:It's because the Ash's Pokemon template is stretching the page due to it's size.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 01:35, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
:: It was there before adding the template. How to clear it? I see there is no space in your page,eve though you usertags. Thank you,ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:42, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
:::There's always going to be whitespace on your userpage because their are things stretching the page, the template or the usertags prior to you adding the template. If you want to get rid of the whitespace, you can use the "expandable" tags to hide the templates or usertages so there's less whitespace.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:15, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you so much, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:45, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

== Deleting sandbox article ==

Hey! It's been a while. I created [[User:GrammarFreak01/Pikachu in a cap|a sandbox article]] for the [[Pikachu in a cap]] article, but it seems someone's already beat me to the punch. Mind deleting it for me, please? Thanks! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:12, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:57, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you. :) [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 11:24, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

== Minor disagreement ==

In SS013, Ash loses a battle for the first time in 54 episodes, a rarely and possibly even never before seen long streak for him. I think this should be noted in the episode's trivia section, but GrammarFreak01 disagrees, saying it's not notable. What's your opinion? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:27, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
:You should've made it clear that 54 episodes was the longest period of time Ash has gone without a loss in the anime, because I did not know this. I'll restore the edit with the necessary addendum. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:37, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
::I did not say that because I wasn't sure. I only figured it was notably long. And I may have just discovered an even longer lossless period for him from the XY series (from XY036 to XY106). --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:47, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

== RedneckAnimeGeek ==

{{user|RedneckAnimeGeek}} has made excessively many edits on Hop and Leon's pages. I tried to notify them on their talk page to use the preview button and lessen the amount of their edits, but their actions did not change. Could you help? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:46, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

== GaOlé ==

https://postimg.cc/gallery/ikii6jsa/
Hello, can these images be placed on Archives and consequently placed on the pages of the respective characters?They are from the Ga Olé game with the theme of the new anime series.[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 12:15, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

== Reinhartmax's categories ==

{{user|Reinhartmax}} has just created categories for Trainers with giant, Fossil, and baby Pokémon. I personally can see the notability in the first one and maybe in the second one, but not really in the last one. What's your opinion? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 22:11, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
:I don't think all three are notable. I've brought it up to the staff, and gave Reinhartmax a message to cease making more categories.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:32, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you. I won't mind if all three of them were removed, so no objections there. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:38, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Has the staff made a decision yet? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:51, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::::Not yet. It got put off to the side for other things.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::Is this subject still waiting to be solved? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:27, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
::::::Can those categories be removed? Has a decision been reached yet? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:08, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Hello? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:05, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
::::::::Discussions regarding this has kinda stalled. Though I think it's rather clear that they aren't needed. I'll be deleting them in a bit.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:37, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:25, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

== Process for reporting an admin ==

Hey! Is there a formal process to report an admin for shirking their duties? [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Ataro#Iris_edit I've been trying] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Ataro#Iris_edit.2C_continued for months] to talk with {{U|Ataro}} about an editing style that I strongly disagree with, which led to what I believe to be an unnecessary three-day block on my end. Ataro [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3032795&oldid=3031944 responded], and this was [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3032886&oldid=3032814 my response]. For months, I haven't received another response from them. I am led to believe Ataro is ignoring me on purpose because [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3068489&oldid=3068474 they] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3068499&oldid=3068496 have] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3107287&oldid=3107274 responded] to other talk page messages, but not mine. They have also been active many times since that initial response, so it would've been absolutely difficult for them not to see all the talk page notifications that were sent by my many attempts to contact them.

I find it hard to believe they were unaware of all of that. If there was supposed to be another, more appropriate way to reach them, then my apologies; I didn't know. But nevertheless, I find it absolutely disgusting that this admin would engage in such selective behavior. Trying to contact them even before they initially responded was an extremely tedious debacle, and by this point, I am absolutely done with their conduct. I'd like to see if there's a formal procedure to address this. Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 11:05, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
:If you have a concern about a staff member ignoring you, you can bring it up to either the Editor in Chief (Kogoro) or the Deputy Editor in Chief (Pokemaster97).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:17, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you. :) [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:48, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

== Explain. ==

Hello, why is it that you removed my Shadow Lugia base stats from the Shadow Lugia page? Those were the real base stats so they had no reason to be changed. Email me at JonahLeeWalker.123@gmail.com with your reply. {{unsigned|Gamer PROJonah}}
:It was improperly formatted. See how the base stats on other articles are done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:22, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

== Vandal alert ==

It looks like {{user|Justin Bibarel}} is going to be nothing but a vandal. Take care of it? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:34, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

:Never mind, {{U|SnorlaxMonster}} took care of it. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:41, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

== SS017 ==

Is the title of SS017 is "Something happens to Hibanny". I saw the news about this in Twitter. So, I want you confirm the truthness of this fact. Because I can't edit unless I have proof about it,right! [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 09:04, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
:Hi,ForceFire please answer my question! Thank you. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 04:17, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::Where did you get the title from?--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:03, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::: I'm not completely sure about the title. I saw it in #anipoke in twitter. Hence, I asked you if you're aware of it. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 08:24, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::::A simple Twitter hashtag is not a reliable source. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:30, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::::: I'm not trying to prove my fact,I was just confirming it here. Also,it is the official hashtag of the Pokémon anime. The tweets may not be reliable, I accept. Hope you understand my point of view GrammarFreak01. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:24, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::: Don't worry about it,since we got the title. Thank you ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 03:50, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

== Gary's Journey ==

Hi, please, I wanted to understand why the change was reversed with Gary's page. Why no other human character has the separation between Kanto / Johto / Hoenn or anything like that anymore. The marking says "Orange Islands", but Gary was never said to have been on the islands. And the page is about Gary's point of view, isn't it? What's the point of keeping that with Gary only?Shouldn't that be standard for everyone?[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 15:17, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
:Could've sworn we also split the history sections of human characters too, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I've reverted myself.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:34, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

== List of references to Pokémon in popular culture edit ==
Hello there. May I ask as to why you have deleted my writing on [[Difference between revisions of "List of references to Pokémon in popular culture"|this page]]? If you would have given me some more time, I would have fixed up my own work, rather than someone else deleting it. Could you please explain as to why you have deleted this specific section? I recognise that some of my information is incorrect, and I would have fixed it up myself. If there is an alternate section where you want me to put it under, I will be more than happy to do this change. Thank you for taking the time to read this, and I hope you recosider your reversion. [[User:BlueDecoRoller|BlueDecoRoller]] ([[User talk:BlueDecoRoller|talk]]) 01:31, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
:As I said in my edit summary, passing mentions are not notable. It has to be more than just a namedrop.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:03, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::As an alternative, could I add my information [[List of background references to Pokémon|here instead]]? I could create a new section for Books, comics and Manga, and put it in there, along with a stub. What do you think? If you approve, I should have it done by 06:00 03/05/20 (UTC). Hopefully. [[User:BlueDecoRoller|BlueDecoRoller]] ([[User talk:BlueDecoRoller|talk]]) 21:51, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
:::It's fine there.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
::::All fixed. Thank you for clarifying as to where I should put it.[[User:BlueDecoRoller|BlueDecoRoller]] ([[User talk:BlueDecoRoller|talk]]) 06:34, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

== Focus on Ash ==

Isn't [[JN013|SS013]] an episode focusing on Ash. I don't know how to add it in the Category: Episodes focusing on Ash. If it is an episode focusing on Ash,could you add it in the category for me, ForceFire! [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 08:26, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
:Not really.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
:: Thank you, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:00, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

== Appearance info for Series-exclusive Recurring Characters: ==

Hello,

I wish to clarify whether all appearances for recurring characters in a particular series should be documented. This comes in the wake of GrammarFreak01 restoring deletions made to [[Abe]], [[Sarah and Harper]] and [[Anela]]'s pages of otherwise unimportant or minor appearances, plus Poké Problem scenes which have little to do with the respective episode plots. As such I'd prefer for these changes to be reverted to make for a succinct article. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:15, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

:I disagree with making articles such as those succinct. It needs material to fill it up, otherwise it'll be painfully short. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:16, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
::Only major appearances should be noted, if they didn't do much and was simply a background character, then it's not notable. And the Poke Problem segments are clearly not notable at all. It doesn't matter if it's too short, Reggie has appeared quite a few times and his article isn't that long. Quality over quantity.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:22, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
:::Thank you for the clarification. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 12:48, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
::::So would this have to apply to ''every'' recurring character article, including those who only had major roles in just two episodes like [[Savannah]] and [[Sandra]]? If not, what's exactly the limit? Which recurring character articles have to be succinct and which ones don't have to be? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:13, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::If they contributed to the plot of the episode, then it's notable. And it counts for every recurring character, it doesn't matter of one page is longer than the other. That's simply not a problem.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:38, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
::::::GrammarFreak01, the examples you gave were deliberate cameos, which are different from background appearances of the examples I explained. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:42, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Allow me to rephrase, then: is the mention of cameos and flashbacks notable for all recurring characters' histories, or not? That's among the material that's being contested in [[Abe]] and [[Sarah and Harper]]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:46, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
::::::::If they are important cameos or flashbacks.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:50, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::How so? Examples? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:52, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::If they are important to the plot of the episode, then it's notable. If they didn't do anything at all, then it's not notable..--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:57, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::::Okay, gotcha. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:00, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

== The trivia ==

The music from the trailer of the new series was used in [[JN014|SS014]],when the egg containing the Golurk emerged from the underground of the ruins. Could it be treated as part of trivia of SS014, as we treated the use of Gym battle theme from SwSh. If it is a part of trivia, can you add it in the trivia of SS014 for me,as I don't really know how to frame it properly for the trivia. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:09, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
:It's not a notable piece of music, so it's not notable.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:40, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

== User YayBoy7 vandalizing the site. ==

I think you should have access to the last changes, the user in question started to vandalize the pages of some users and places and characters with bad words. I tried to modify what I could, but I couldn't prevent other changes and as I don't know if it is possible to report here, it probably must have happened without me seeing it. 01:43 [[Hikaru Wazana]] 05 March 2020

== Request ==

I appreciate you protecting SS017's page for the time being. But could I request you'll remove the last edit that was there before the protection took place? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:58, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
:Eh, if it wasn't hidden, then I'd remove it. But since it's hidden, so it's doing no harm. It can be removed/corrected once the protection expires.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:55, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

== Lugia (Pocket monsters) ==

In [[JN020|SS020]],the Lugia from the second episode of the series is going to appear. Can we categorize this Lugia as a recurring character in the anime? [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:32, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
:I also wanted to ask you one more question,i.e How do I join in Project anime? [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:44, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
::Once the episode airs. "Joining" projects is an out of use thing, everyone is editing under a certain project, regardless of them "joining" it. Though you can still add the "User is a part of Project..." usertags to your userpage if you like.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:07, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
::: I get the idea about it now. You mean that the edits under the anime pages are part of Project anime. Thanks a lot, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 17:25, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

== Item Sprites ==

Hey, I've made a suggestion here [[Template talk:Bag2]]. What do you think about it?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 22:25, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

==User edit-warring on an article==
I've got {{user|Kirigayaray}} [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world&type=revision&diff=3129878&oldid=3129829 continuously reverting my own reversions] of the [[Pokémon world in relation to the real world]] article. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world&type=revision&diff=3129839&oldid=3129835 I've talked with them] about going to the talk page to discuss the contested edits, but [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world&type=revision&diff=3129878&oldid=3129839 they still made a reversion]. Would you mind intervening, please? Thank you! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:13, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:The entire article is speculation, so it's fine for them to change it within reason. If you feel that their edits are wrong, then go to their talk page or the talk page of the article. Would also help if you had knowledge on what those areas the location is supposedly based on. That way, your reversion might hold water.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:48, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

== Recurring character categories ==

Hey! Since I noticed there's an entire set of categories for [[Character of the day|characters of the day]], I was wondering if we could create the same for recurring characters in the anime. I feel like they could use some further categorization and distinction. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:54, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:The main anime characters category covers those fairly well, in my opinion.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:52, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
::But it's already so hard to look for some of them, like [[Savannah]]. I think we need such categories. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:12, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

== Deleted ==

Why did you delete [[:Category:Pages with ignored display titles]], even though I think it is needed? --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''TheI''']][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|'''CTLi''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''ker4''']] 11:27, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:No... it's not needed.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:52, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

== Feedback ==

Hi, I'm putting together a custom template for the characters that will be in the world competition. Some details are still needed, but I would like to know the opinion of the site staff. Is there any chance of being approved? Is it worth it to keep doing this?My inspiration is something that I saw on sports websites. I thought it might be interesting given the importance of the event.
Here is an example:
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This marks the position that Trainer _____ took in the world ranking:

{| class="roundy" style="margin: auto; text-align: center; background: #{{water color}}; border: 3px solid #{{water color dark}}" cellpadding=5px
|-style="background: #{{water color light}}"
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" |[[File:Pokémon World Championships logo.png|75px]] Pokémon World Championish
! [[File:Bag Poké Ball Sprite.png‎]] Normal Class
! [[File:Bag Great Ball Sprite.png]] Super Class
! [[File:Bag Ultra Ball Sprite.png]] Hyper Class
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | [[File:Bag Master Ball Sprite.png]] Master Class
|- style="background: #FFF"
| Ranking position
| {{color2|000|JN018|Not Avaliable}}
| {{color2|000|JN018|Top 999}}
| {{color2|000|JN018|Top 99}}
| {{color2|000|JN012|Top 8}}
|- style="background: #FFF"
|-
| class="roundybottom" style="background: #{{water color light}}" colspan="5" |
|}

What do you think?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 16:17, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
:Initially thought this was for the TCG worlds tournament thing, so there was a bit of confusion on my end. I've asked and the judgement was that it's a bit too early for such a template, when we know very little of it and its competitors. Maybe once that gets revealed it could be used.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:14, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

== Let's Go plot description ==

I personally think the plot description {{user|Kahchun}} wrote for Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee today isn't up to code. Do you agree? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:21, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

== Articles for the Mainspace ==

Hello. I'd hoped for a response from Abcboy or G50, in regards to some of these pages which are ready to be mainspaced, hopefully you can help.

*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Legend Festival]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Pokéstar Studios Film Competition]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Subway Bosses's Stamp Rally]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/The Marina Group]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Pershie/The Protectors]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Bloom Canyon]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Flower Garden Troupe]] - I've structured it like other organization pages like the [[Pokémon Lover's Club]] and [[B-Button League]] as its HQ was shown in the anime
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Pokémon Training Center]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Unnamed Island (EP060)]] - We have other unnamed island pages like the ones featured during the Orange and Decolore sagas
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Big Town Pokémon]] - This one needs further discussion as these are the recurring Pokémon that aren't part of the Pichu Posse, as to whether this should be a separate page or rather the Pichu Posse page gets reconfigured to account for this.
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Pershie]]

Regards [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 08:55, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
:*Legend festival should be fine.
:*The PokeStar competition article should detail its competitors like the other competition articles.
:*Same as above.
:*Marina group should be fine.
:*(not sure why it's a subpage of Pershie) Protectors is fine, though is looking bare without a navigation template.
:*Bloom Canyon could do with a bit more, but if nothing else major happens there, then I guess it'd do.
:*Flower Garden Troupe is fine.
:*Pokemon Training Center is fine.
:*Unnamed Island is fine, again navigation template would help it look nicer.
:*Big Town Pokemon needs further discussion about splitting it off from Pichu Brothers.
:*Pershie didn't do much, and didn't really have an impact in any of the episodes it was in. Not notable.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:14, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
::Just confirming, Bloom Canyon had a brief appearance in the episode.
::Anyway, I've made those suggested changes, the pages are now ready for the mainspace. Thanks for the reply. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:45, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
:::Hi. I've noticed only two pages have been mainspaced so far. When will the other approved pages be uploaded to the mainspace? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:40, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
::::Apologies for that, all the approved articles have been moved.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:08, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::Much appreciated, thanks. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 10:25, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

== Professor Burnet ==

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Thank you for this explanation while you “rollbacked” these edits, this will be useful in my future contributions. --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''TheI''']][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|'''CTLi''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''ker4''']] 18:44, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

== Mythical pokémon pics ==

Hi! I'd like to know the ratio over using promotional images of past mythical pokémon in the [[Mythical Pokémon|general page]] while the latest ones have to use the Sugimori artwork. I edited it because I thought it looked better and more cohesive. Thank you! --[[User:Crikko|'''★''''''Cri''''''ққ''''''ѳ~''''''*''']] 16:58, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

== Gen 8 Sprites ==

Hi do you think we should start on the gen 8 sprites now and use the front sprites such as Grookey's front sprite

[[File:Spr 8s 810.png|300px]]

and upload the backsprites later? I apologize about my wording and English BTW ([[User:Mr.GodzillaMan|Mr.GodzillaMan]] ([[User talk:Mr.GodzillaMan|talk]]) 16:27, 17 March 2020 (UTC))

== New vandal alert ==

Hey! We've got {{user|Yeety}} being a vandal here. Take care of it, please? Thank you! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:27, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

:Now this person's directly harassing me on my talk page and spreading lies about me on other users' talk pages. I need assistance! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:47, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

::Never mind, {{U|Abcboy}} took care of it. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:52, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

== Rillaboom's Drumsticks ==

I know that Rillaboom carries its drum on its back, but where does it keep its drumsticks? The leaf-like fur near its hands (like how Delphox keeps its branch in the fur on its arm)? [[User:Macpika|Macpika]] ([[User talk:Macpika|talk]]) 17:38, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

== Totodile’s Tackle ==

Excuse me, I already know which episode Ash's Totodile used Tackle, and Duplica's Mini-Dit did the same, but why did it get reverted? Dub edits or something?--[[User:CoolPokeGuy|CoolPokéGuy]] ([[User talk:CoolPokeGuy|Talk]]) 19:03, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
:Was it stated or are you just guessing? I don't particularly remember the episode.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:08, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
:It was stated. I’ve seen that episode for a very long time.--[[User:CoolPokeGuy|CoolPokéGuy]] ([[User talk:CoolPokeGuy|Talk]]) 07:13, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

== Relicanth ==

You can't just delete a fan theory from a paragraph designated to fan speculation. And why isn't Relicanth a map?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 16:34, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
:Do not edit war. Wait for a response. No response does not mean you can just add it back. Have patience.
:I already said why on Relicanth's talk page. It's an opinion. Relicanth's body design looks nothing like the map of Hoenn. And it's a very large stretch to say that its design is why it's needed to unlock the Regis when the far simpler and probable reason is because it's a living fossil Pokemon.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 17:02, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
::I'm not saying it's a map of Hoenn, but it surely is a map. Being brown (like old maps), having unexpleined by any other mean red spot, being unchanged for centuries and always placed sideway instead of heading the player in game sprites, all these things together suggest that. And as a theory of Hoenn map, even if you can't see it, it has no reason to not be added under speculations.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 20:50, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
:::It would make more sense if it looked like the map of Hoenn, otherwise, it's just a random design. Again, all of those are a stretch when the more simpler and probable reason is because it's an ancient Pokemon. It still needs to be reasonable speculation, and the whole map thing just isn't.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 01:39, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

== Bulbapedia Rework ==

Hello, Force Fire.
My name is Xeraphyy. Last month, a tweet was made announcing that Bulbapedia was going through some site upgrades. The link to the tweet is below.

https://twitter.com/Bulbapedia/status/1228458215324545024

I was wondering if the site upgrades are still continuing. Do you know of the status of the rework? Please get back to me when you can. [[User:Xeraphyy|Xeraphyy]] ([[User talk:Xeraphyy|talk]]) 18:34, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

== Raichu's gender ==

May I ask why the gender of Visquez's Raichu can't be confirmed? It's a Raichu that was first seen after gender differences were implemented, we've seen Pikachu's gender differences before, and her Raichu's tail clearly was that of a male Raichu. I personally fail to see the reason to not consider its gender confirmed based on its tail. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 21:58, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
:That's Pikachu's gender difference. Not Raichu's gender difference. Just because one gender difference has been acknowledged, does not mean the others exist. They still need to be acknowledged by the animators. They could easily acknowledge one difference but not the other, because they can just be like that sometimes.
:A female Raichu has appeared in the anime, but it was drawn with a male tail (Tierno's). So we still can't use gender differences, until the female variant Raichu appears in the anime. Other than that, it needs to be explicitly stated or hit with attract/cute charm. But you know that already.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 01:39, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
::Oh, right. I had completely forgotten about Tierno's Raichu. Sorry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:31, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
:::How is Tierno's Raichu a cetain case? I've ask about this [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Tierno_(anime) here].--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 11:36, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

==Hikaru Wazana==
Me and FinnishPokéfan92 have been having some trouble with Hikaru Wazana, mainly on the Archive section with him uploading images that aren't the right size or quality, adding more work for us and other users. I've spoken to Chosen and Abcboy about this but haven't had any response. Was wondering if you could look into it? I'm bringing this up now as he's starting making more work on this side of Bulbapedia, notably the [[Elite Four‎‎]] and [[Casey's Meganium]] pages.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 22:38, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
::I didn’t upload anything to Casey’s Meganium page, the only thing I did was expand the page, which YEARS passed without anyone putting anything relevant about her role. The other uploads I made with images with the best quality I got, unfortunately I can't change them with the standard quality. If the images of the E4 you are talking about are those of the Pokemon Puzzle League, unfortunately I couldn't get any better, so I wondered if it was better to add content or not. I chose to add the content.

What should I do? There is a page that, as notable as it is, no one takes the trouble to update. It seems that people care more about putting Trivia than really supporting the site. The other day I sent you the screencaptures of a hosted site, but doing that for all the ones I get is an extra job. I don't want to give extra work to the people who collaborate here,[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]10:15, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
:I don't pay too much attention to the archives side of things, so any issues should be brought up with someone that spends more time over there. As for Hikaru's edits here, they're fine. If they feel like a page can be expanded, they are free to expand it to the best of their abilities.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:05, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

== Gender ==

So why exactly you reverted back the table for Pokemon that evolve depending on gender? It wasn't big edit, not even mine.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 17:02, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
:Because it wasn't necessary. Not every page have to have the same template design. You also made a large scale edit without consulting others on the talk page, like you usually do. If you want to suggest a drastic change, always propose it on the talk page first. Don't just do as you please.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:00, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
::I'm too convinced that Bulbapedia's style should be precise and consistent as it is on most of pages already. Do you have any reason for this page to not be like the others? Because there is one reason for and zero against. Also, I do many bigger changes by myself because my questions and suggestions are rarely answered and when they do there is almost no reason presented. For example you still haven't answered my question about Tierno's Raichu.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 16:31, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
:::Don't just go ahead with making largescale edits just because no one responds, that does not give you the privilege to just make the edit anyway. Wait for a response. The evolution chain is not the point of that section of the article, so there is not needs for a template that showcases an entire evolutionary line. The article is about gender, so it shows the different gender specific Pokemon. Evolutionary line has nothing to do with the article. And Tierno's Raichu is confirmed female because the original version stated that Attract failed on Blastoise because Blastoise was male.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:55, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
::::If there is no point in showing whole evolutionary line, then why don't you simplify it in the same way on other pages? And if Tierno's Raichu is confirmed female then why don't you mention that on page of Visquez's Raichu that it is the reason for not giving him gender. It's really annoying how you're making decisions you're not fully abide to.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 15:16, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::Just leave it. It's fine the way it is and gets the point across just as well. The point is to show the evolution method and the gender specific forms, since the section is titled "gender based evolution", and using the artwork shows the differences much more clearly than a minisprite. That and your template makes it inconsistent in design with the template right below it.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:17, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::And as I said, they don't all have to have the same template design. Some pages can have unique templates designs depending on the article. There is no inconsistency issue.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:21, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

== Urshifu ==
Honestly just a small issue I spotted regarding Urshifu's page, where the Tower of Darkness and Tower of Waters are referred to as the Temple of Darkness and Temple of Waters in the evolution box. It's a minor error, but it bothered me, so I made an account specifically to try to fix it, but of course it was protected, which I didn't realize was a thing because I didn't ever consider it. Anyway, just something I felt obligated to point out for the sake of accuracy. Thanks for your time reading this. --[[User:ArcaneCrystal|ArcaneCrystal]] ([[User talk:ArcaneCrystal|talk]]) 07:30, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
:Fixed.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:00, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

== List Grammar ==

On the Normal (type) page, you reverted my edit to the sentence, "Their inability to hit Ghost-type Pokémon can be nullified by using Foresight, Odor Sleuth, or by Pokémon with the Ability Scrappy." That's a list of two nouns (''Foresight'' and ''Odor Sleuth'') and a prepositional phrase ("by Pokémon with the Ability Scrappy"), which just doesn't work, or a list of two prepositional phrases ("by using Foresight" and "by Pokémon with the Ability Scrappy") and a noun (''Odor Sleuth''), which also just doesn't work. (At least, it doesn't work in American English; I don't know about other major dialects.)
[[User:Matthias von Schwarzwald|Matthias von Schwarzwald]] ([[User talk:Matthias von Schwarzwald|talk]]) 16:41, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

== "In the movies"? ==

Dear ForceFire,

I noticed several of the anime characters that have been featured in the Pokémon movies have sections titled "In the movies", while most are "In the anime". Is there a reason for this, or should it all be standardized to one format?[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:28, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
:If they've featured in both the main series and the movie series, then it should have two subsections for anime and movies (order goes by whichever they first appeared in). Movie exclusive characters get a history section.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

== Pokémon seen sections for anime locations ==

Dear ForceFire,

I would also like to clarify what Pokémon are typically included in the Pokémon seen sections of the location pages. While I think we can do away with these sections entirely due to differences in formatting and non-specific images as some appearance have only occurred in a group. I've noticed that some Trainer owned Pokémon are included in these segments, especially locations that hosted Contests, should it only be wild Pokémon and Pokémon known to actually reside in the area with their Trainer? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:34, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
:I think the section is necessary to showcase what Pokemon reside in the area. Multiple images of the same thing for individual Pokemon isn't a problem. It should ideally just be for wild Pokemon. I don't think a trainer's Pokemon being at a location counts, since it technically doesn't reside there (not sure why a contest location would have a section for that).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

== [[Tracey's Scyther]] ==

The Grammarfreak user insists on putting a "Johto" section for Tracey's Scyther. Since Tracey didn't have a "Johto Journey", does that make any sense?I mean, the Johto and Kanto level is not separated with Kanto arc and Johto arc unless the respective Pokémon has a journey in such a place (Gary's Eevee, Gary Arcanine they are like that as far as I'm concerned, right?).

Doesn't the page just list the point of view of that respective character?Even if you allow me, I think the division should be just in the anime saga (something like Original Series, Advance, Diamond and so on). As is done even in the manga section. In this case of Tracey, what is the point in creating a section to detail a journey it did not take?I don't know I managed to put my point of view correctly, I apologize if you may have been a little confused.[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]10:30, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
:The history is only separated by region if they have appeared in that region, yes. Though, in the case of Scyther, it did appear after the Orange Island arc but in Kanto and not Johto. I think renaming the section "Kanto", "Other", or "post Orange Islands" would be more appropriate.
:The region specific separation should only be for Pokemon that appeared in two different regions in an arc (so Hoenn and Kanto for AG, Kanto, Orange, and Johto for OS, so on so forth). If the Pokemon has done something notable or important in a region, then it should be noted.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:05, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

== New titles of new series ==

SS021 - Hit Your Mark, Wave Guidance! Satoshi and the Mysterious Egg!!(12/4)

SS022 - Farewell, Rabbifoot!(19/4)

SS023 - Massive Panic! Sakuragi Park!!
(26/4)

These are the new titles. Could you confirm and them in the list of new series episodes. {{unsigned|Dhiwakar}}

Don't worry about it, ForceFire. It's already added. Thank you. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:25, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

== Suggestion ==

I was wondering that should the Battle Frontier facility info templates be edited to include the possibility of a battlefield section, like with Gym info templates, and the game image of the facility in the template be replaced with the anime image, if possible. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:22, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
:While I wouldn't be against it (I only really checked the Battle Pyramid article, and an anime image would be a better alternative), tryask for second opinions.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:10, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
::Blazingfist has [[User talk:Blazingfist#Suggestion|also agreed to the idea]]. Should I ask some more users, or is this fine? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:30, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
:::If you'd like, you can make a mockup in your userspace and I can get the Editorial board to check it.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
::::I created a mockup [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Template:Facility Infobox|here]]. I mainly just added another image section to the bottom of the template. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:10, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::I've brought it up with the editorial board, waiting approval.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

== Does not explain name origin? ==

howdy, Force Fire. i'm just here to ask you, why have you removed my edit on Hawlucha's page? i was thinking it'd be possible that a Matador (Bullfighter) puts the "bull" in Luchabull. which is why i added it in the name origin. was there something wrong with it? ----[[User:inukoinu.k9|i n u k o i n u]] ''([[User talk:inukoinu.k9|talk]])'' 19:37, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
:It did not explain how the word "matador" itself is incorporated into the name. The relevance to bulls is already mentioned with just "bull" before it.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:10, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
::oh, i really wanted to add how i thought it meant but i guess not. i'm still just a bit new at this so, sorry. heh. ----[[User:inukoinu.k9|i n u k o i n u]] ''([[User talk:inukoinu.k9|talk]])'' 13:40, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

== Ash Ketchum page split suggestion ==

Hi Force Fire, I've started [[Talk:Ash_Ketchum#Article_split_suggestion|a proposal on Ash Ketchum's talk page]] about splitting it into different pages and I would like to hear from you as Senior Administrator! Thanks!--[[User:Crikko|'''★''''''Cri''''''ққ''''''ѳ~''''''*''']] 15:08, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

==Cynthia (anime)==
I was wondering if it might be worth giving Cynthia her own anime page or start work on one at least.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:54, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
:Sorry to use another user's conversation, but as the subject is the same ... Well, I started creating a [[User:Hikaru_Wazana/Korrina_(anime)|page for Korrina]]. I wanted your opinion, should I continue with it? I think that here I could start making more exclusive pages for the counterparts of some characters, mainly to relieve the space of some "official" pages of some. Because here there are a lot of pages I could gain from this, as the tidy could be more detailed and the main page would stay with only the basics.
:I think the site has a problem that many people prefer to fill the pages of Trivias, but do not put relevant content on the same page. This happens very often on trainer's Pokémon pages ([[Maylene's Lucario]] for example). But even relevant characters went through this, the page of the matriarch of Village of Dragons was almost a summary and did not even have all the character's participation. Bulbapedia could create a stricter rule for placing Trivias on the pages. I mean, it's just a suggestion.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 23:19, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
::I agree that some more Gym Leaders might necessitate sub-articles for their anime counterparts and so on and so forth, not just those who accompanied Ash on his journey. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:24, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
:::I think both Cynthia and Korrina are notable for their own article, though I suggest adding something to the "pre-series" section of her page before moving first.
:::As for anime articles for game characters, only if they've played an important role and appeared in more than a few episodes, obviously Surge, Roxanne, and Clay aren't notable for anime articles. If you have any suggestions, you can always start one up in your userpage and the staff will take a look.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
::::Went to mainspace Cynthia, but got this message. You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reason:
::::A page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 15:41, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
::I did the pre-series section and put content from episodes that were not included in the main article, as you suggested, Force Fire. If someone wants to coordinate efforts and make pages for characters notable enough for the page, I volunteer. I'm already making some Pokés for some characters.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 21:04, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
::I have moved both Cynthia and Korrina to the mainspace, though cynthia could do with an introductory paragraph, like the other anime character articles...--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
::::What are the rules for a character to get his own page? I mean, there is one, right?I know some people made a page for Hau, I have one in progress for Steve Stone. I believe that Clair has what is necessary, but it would be good to have an official opinion so that we don't have to make a lot of pages that we don't need. What rules do they use in the manga section? Would Morty, Norman, Roark, Gardenia or Brandon be notable?Sorry about the lot of questions. LOL.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 15:04, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::There isn't a hard notability rule for anime characters as there is for anime Pokemon, though some of the rules there would probably apply. Basically they must appear from more than a few episodes, play an important role in the series, and do more than just battle the main characters. Norman and Brandon could be notable, but not the others you mentioned.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:51, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
::::::Created a [[User:BigDocFan/Brandon (anime)|page]] for Brandon, was wondering if you could have a look.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 08:43, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Both Steven Stone and Brandon are fine to be mainspaced, both played a major role in their series.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:53, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
::::::::I personally disagree. We don't need to create such an excessive amount of separate pages. Cynthia and Korrina I can understand, but Steven and Brandon I disagree with. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:08, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::Both have played major parts in an arc they appeared in (Regigas arc for Brandon, Mega Evolution arc for Steven), and have done more that just battle. While I do go on and on over quality over quantity, the quality of those pages are fine.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:43, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
I added information to Brandon's page, I hope everything is right. Despite that, from now on I will only suggest the page when it is ready, Brandon's page was still far from ready(We still need to find a better image to put in the infobox). The one I'm doing for Steven I'll be letting you know when it's ready to head to the main space.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 22:04, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
:::https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Hikaru_Wazana/Clair_(anime)
Hi, I did the first drafts on this page, do you think it is good enough to go to the main space?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 20:09, 05 May 2020 (UTC)
:I've brought up that page with the other staff members, as I wasn't sure if Clair had done enough outside of battling to warrant a separate page, and they deemed Clair not notable for an anime specific article.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:55, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

== Undoing ==

I tried to undo an edit on my talkpage but the abuse filter wouldn't let me. --[[User:CaliforniaPokemonGirl623|CaliforniaPokemonGirl623]] ([[User talk:CaliforniaPokemonGirl623|talk]]) 03:30, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
:That usually happens when new users attempt to remove large amounts of information. I've removed the template from your talk page. Again, your talk should not be used as a userpage. The only thing that should be on your talk page, aside form the welcome template, are comments and discussions.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
::Hi [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] How many edits (specific number) are needed to get autoconfirmed? --[[User:CaliforniaPokemonGirl623|CaliforniaPokemonGirl623]] ([[User talk:CaliforniaPokemonGirl623|talk]]) 15:38, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
:::The number is kept secret, even I don't know what the number is. It's kept secret so users don't just make the reuired amount of edits and abandon the mainspace for the userpace.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:51, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

== Blast Burn, etc. ==

Hey, if I recall I don't think I repeatedly edited the pages for Blast Burn and similar moves to state that they were the Kanto starters' signature moves - I think I only edited each of them once (or possibly twice to correct mistakes). But in any case, before XD was released, the Kanto starters ''were'' the only Pokémon that could learn those moves, similar to Greninja with {{m|Water Shuriken}} before ORAS. They're even listed on the [[signature move]] page as such. Therefore, if they don't qualify as signature moves, then Water Shuriken shouldn't either. --[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 03:40, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
:I checked the history section of Blast Burn and you added it a few years back, which subsequently got reverted. Yes, the Kanto starters were the only one that can learn it, but it didn't ''keep'' it as a signature move for a generation, which is what (one of) the criteria is. I've removed the Greninja line on Water Shuriken.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

== Dinosaurtime.YT ==

Hey! It's clear {{user|Dinosaurtime.YT}} is going to continue edit-warring on articles rather than use the talk page. Do something about it? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:08, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
:It's just a matter of explaining to him how things work and that he can help in other sections, there are loads of pages that need help.There is no point in creating a problem with this, or to reach the moderator's page with that tone of words.[[User:Hikaru Wazana |Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 00:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
::It wouldn't be a problem if the user hadn't immediately gone to the talk page when their edits were contested. Repeated reversions is automatically punished with a block, whether anyone likes it or not. I would know. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:33, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
:::I've given them a message.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:51, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
::::Okay, thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:19, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Dinosaurtime.YT - Can i say something? I am not Edit-warring. It am just correcting information that is wrong. Many people seem to think that 1-57 is 52 episodes when it is not, it is 57 episodes. I am merely correcting people who are mistaken and wrong.{{unsigned|Dinosaurtime.YT}}
:You are clearly counting the episodes that never aired in the US. Because while EP001 to EP057 are season one, only 52 of them actually aired in the US (EP018, EP035, EP038, EP052, and EP053 were either banned or aired later).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:51, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
Oh, ok then, i din't know. I just thought it was a typo that had become believed. I made an extra point in the seasons page to correct it and let people know, just in case they didn't know and i apologise for the inconvenience and misconception. {user:Dinosaurtime.YT} {{unsigned|Dinosaurtime.YT}}
:That's not what the dot points are for. The dot points are listing the different definitions of a season. The stuff about irregularities in count can go elsewhere.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:12, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
:Where should it go then? In the first section of the page?--[[User:Dinosaurtime.YT|Dinosaurtime.YT]] ([[User talk:Dinosaurtime.YT|talk]]) 13:19, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

== Mainspacing suggestion ==

I have a page about [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Miette's Slurpuff|Miette's Slurpuff]] that's been waiting for a mainspacing decision for years now. Do you think it's notable and complete enough to be mainspaced? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:59, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

:I feel like Miette's Slurpuff hasn't done much outside of performing in Showcases, if I remember correctly. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:51, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
::Miette's Slurpuff isn't notable. It didn't do anything major, apart from its debut episode, and every appearance afterwards was just battling/performances.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:51, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
:::...Fine... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:25, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

== Team Rocket's disguises ==

I noticed the page on Team Rocket's disguises is written in the present tense, while we typically write in the past tense. Is there a reason for this? Also Butch and Cassidy have used disguises during some of their schemes, should these be included on the [[List of Team Rocket's disguises]] page?[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:54, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
:The wording on that article should be in past tense, yes. As for Butch and Cassidy's disguise, I wouldn't be against it, though you might need to suggest it to others.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:11, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
::Not a problem thanks. I'll message BlazingFist to confirm whether Butch and Cassidy's disguises should be added to the page. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 02:42, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
:::I've always thought the article should be written in present tense because it's always been that way. My bad, I guess. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:45, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

==Spoiler tags for Lusamine page? Maybe also for Chairman Rose?==
Okay as the both of us know, the wiki still has not tolerated spoilers in the opening paragraph of the [[Lusamine]] page (this may also be a good thing to potentially apply to [[Chairman Rose]].
Last I checked, the original Sun and Moon (the storyline where this fits into) was released approximately 3 - 3.5 years ago. Unowninator suggested spoiler tags, and I think that may be a worthy solution.
What do you think? [[User:Crummymummy|Crummymummy]] ([[User talk:Crummymummy|talk]]) 03:38, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
:It can be mentioned in the story section of her article, with a spoiler tag in the section (though I think the twist already been alluded to anyway), it will not go to the main paragraph as it is too much of a spoiler. It being 3 years after SM has been released means nothing. It's been years since Colosseum and XD were released and their villains have separate pages from their disguised characters.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:07, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

== Sun and Moon Walkthrough edits ==

Hi, I am a new user here who wants to edit and create walkthroughs. The [[Appendix:Sun and Moon walkthrough/Section 3]] page is essentially a copy and paste of the [[Hau'oli City]] page. When I tried deleting the parts unrelated or out of place in the walkthrough, I found that I couldn't, as it was automatically labeled as vandalism. Do I need to become an autoconfirmed user first, or do I need some other privileges? Thanks for your help. [[User:Mercilessstarfish|Mercilessstarfish]] ([[User talk:Mercilessstarfish|talk]]) 02:32, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
:That normally happens when new users try to remove large amounts of information. You just need to wait a while.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:00, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

== Lickitung's Lick ==

In 2016, you said on Jessie's Lickitung's talk page that the action of licking does not equal the move Lick. However, the announcer in Lickitung's debut episode clearly refers to the action as "Lick attack", as in "Lick the move". If you ask me, this is just an example of an anime move error than an "improvised" move. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:24, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
:I'm aware of what the announcer said, though I do not remember if it was dub added or from the original. I've removed the improved moves template from the page, the template itself having already been removed multiple times before only to be re-added again.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:14, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
::Okay. I looked into it, and it turns out that Lickitung's licking wasn't referred to as a move in the Japanese version. So yeah. I stand corrected. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:44, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

== My edits ==

Why are you reverting my edits to the Pokémon pages?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 04:53, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

== Do paintings of Pokémon count as anime appearances? ==

{{U|KnightGalarie}} [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Squirtle_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=0&oldid=3152250 certainly seems to think so]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:48, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
:Paintings are images, right?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 08:50, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
::I've been getting mixed signals about that, honestly. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:54, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
:::[[Bulbapedia:Manual of style/Anime#Pokémon appearances and debuts]].--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:09, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
::::So the Pokemon Park robots/animatronics don’t count as appearances at all?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 09:12, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::An exception can be made for those as they played a major role in their episode.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

==May's Ivysaur==
And hey as long as we’ve got you, why is May’s Ivysaur considered a “Major appearance” when her Ivysaur never actually appeared? I brought it up on the Ivysaur talk page but it didn’t get any traction--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 09:20, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

:If it has an article and belonged to a main character, then it's automatically a major appearance. The fact that most of its major appearances were spent as a Bulbasaur carried over to its time as an Ivysaur and then a Venusaur (which, if I may recall, didn't appear for too long either). [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:21, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
::But Venusaur at least got ''an'' appearance. Ivysaur has zero appearances. It can’t be a major appearance if there’s no appearance to speak of--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 09:24, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
:::The section is just more or less stating that May's Bulbasaur eventually evolved into an Ivysaur. It's fine.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

== My own block ==

Hey! I think I might have to be blocked too. I've reverted {{U|KnightGalarie}} so many times on so many different articles that I've lost count. Review my history and see if I've done enough reverts to warrant some sort of block, because I do feel like I've jumped the gun one too many times here. But at this point, I'm too tired to check for myself. Thank you! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:10, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

== GalarPony and KnightGalarie ==

Hey! Call it a far-fetched hunch, but is it possible {{user|GalarPony}} and {{user|KnightGalarie}} could be one and the same person? Not only do their usernames both have "Galar" in it, but both [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:GalarPony#Refusal_to_use_talk_pages GalarPony] and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:KnightGalarie#Block KnightGalarie] have a bad tendency to edit-war and use edit summaries to make their argument rather than trying to go to the talk page first. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:27, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
:Did a check between the two accounts. I've given them a message.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:31, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
::I just read your message. Honestly, given the similarities you just described (some of which I hadn't even thought of, honestly), it looks super-suspicious. I'm personally convinced they're the same person, but I suppose GalarPony's multiple IP addresses complicates things for you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:34, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
:::Whoa, whoa, whoa, how can the issue be [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AKnightGalarie&type=revision&diff=3153995&oldid=3153986 cleared up]? How could KnightGalarie share the same computer details as GalarPony and yet say they created their account on a cellphone? Unless there's something about computers I don't know about (and please feel free to explain it to me if this is the case), this is telling me two possible scenarios:

:::1) KnightGalarie is GalarPony and created the account with a cellphone, and then used the same computer to make their edits.

:::2) KnightGalarie and GalarPony are different people who share access to the same computer (which KnightGalarie hadn't exactly confirmed).

:::I think you should press for some clarification on their explanation, because I'm still suspicious about this. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:01, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
::::I don't believe that he is GalarPony. The only thing connecting the two are the matching devices, which isn't that helpful if it is a mobile device. The similar names isn't even a good reason, anyone can use the word "Galar" in their name. Their behaviors, whilst similar, are still circumstantial. In a sense, I decided not to pursue it any further. If you still have concerns, you can bring it up with someone of a higher rank than me.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:47, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

== Cynthia149 ==

{{user|Cynthia149}} had [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ANew_series&type=revision&diff=3154191&oldid=3154141 this lovely comment] to say at the [[new series]] talk page. Mind giving them a warning? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:27, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
:<s>Don't think it's too bad, but I'll leave a response on that talk page.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:47, 25 April 2020 (UTC)</s>
:Nah, I'll give them a message on their talk page instead.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:51, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
::Okay, thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 18:52, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

== Pokérap backwards ==

Hello Force Fire, I was browsing through my previous contributions to the Wiki and decided to look at the controversy page, I noticed that the point about the Pokérap had an inadequate source. After doing a search for "Pokérap" and "Satan" I found no first had source, I reckon this could be a myth like Lavender Town and the Vikings wearing horns on their helmets so removed it but you want a discussion so I'm starting one. The point doesn't have a valid source and makes Christians come across as overly paranoid, I don't think this site should allow misconceptions to spread, I mean after all the Lavender Town point isn't on the page which is a similar myth so why should this one?[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 21:53, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
:The Lavender town myth was actually busted. The Pokerap thing hasn't been busted. Does it make Christians look bad? Maybe? But people from other religions have said stuff about the franchise, so Christians saying such things wouldn't be too far off. I've already had a discussion about this with another user years ago, but it most likely happened during the 90s when Pokemon was at the height of its craze. Stuff like this probably wasn't documented at the time, and if it was, most likely died along with the 90s.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:29, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
::Your response comes down to "I speculate that it happened even though there's no evidence to support thid from the time, but I think it happened, therefore it must remain". Just because you think it MIGHT have happened doesn't mean it did and if a source died in the 90s we should assume it didn't happen (evidence must exist to confirm something). I think it seems quite a stretch because why would people decide to play specifically the Kanto Pokérap backwards. This is exactly like the Vikings with horned helmets, no account at the time yet believed to have happened because people spread their ideas after the time. Could it not be reworded to remove the piece about Christian fundamentalist, as we have no evidence that they specifically complained about this and instead just say that people (not Christians) have noticed (not complained) that you might be able to hear "I love you Satan" essentially showing that it's a rumour on the internet.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 11:09, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
:::I will agree with ForceFire on this one. Given that there was a "Satanic Panic" starting in the 1980s and lasting well into the 1990s before it finally stopped for the most part. I would assume that there was a lot of overly zealous christians at the time trying to say ANYTHING they could to get people to stop being fans of the franchise, including making up lyrics and such that they may have heard in the songs when played backwards. The earliest record I could find making mention of this "backmask message" was from a forum thread documented in 2004 where someone asked if others had heard of this rumor before and if they thought they heard the message as well. So while it has been pretty much impossible to find videos or articles where christian folks are flat out stating this, it likely had been stated at one point in time during the late 90s - early 00s before the website was removed. Given most early internet websites were poorly archived, it would likely be impossible to find records of older christian websites making note of it these days. That being said, as youtuber SteveTerreberry has shown, if you try hard enough, you can hear whatever you want out of a song in reverse, even though 99% of the time, there is nothing there in the lyrics anyways. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 12:30, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
::::I completely disagree, it all boils down to did Christians specifically say that you could hear "I love Satan" in the Pokérap played backwards. The answer is "we don't know, we have no evidence to show that they ever did" and Frozen Fennec saying that it wasn't properly archived is not an excuse, it needs to be proved and saying that it could have happened but we have no evidence is NOT an excuse. Just because they may have complained about other recordings doesn't mean that they did about this one and shows them as overzealous people who complain about a children's entertainment franchise (which really doesn't portray them as good people, and some people might find this unproven information offensive). Force Fire saying that this hasn't been debunked is also not an excuse because you need to prove that something happened, not assume that something happened because of something that appeared on the internet after the time. Finally it's not opinion it's about objectivity and fact and you need information to prove a FACT otherwise it should only belong on speculative forums and not an encyclopedia.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 14:58, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::Another thing I just thought of is why does it really matter if it remains on the page? If it's removed for being an internet rumour then it will still exist on speculative forums, that I mentioned earlier.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 15:03, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::I just noticed something else, it says "Some claim" present tense, in other words happening right now. Regardless of everything recently discussed it should be past tense.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 15:25, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

== KnightGalarie again ==

I don't appreciate the tone he's using [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ANew_series&type=revision&diff=3160327&oldid=3160316 here]. I most certainly wasn't lying; I didn't see the first template at first. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:14, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:In what way is this acceptable behavior? The minute you see something you don’t like, your first thought is punishment?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:21, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::I'm already on hot water with admins for sending my own warnings to other users, so I'm not taking any chances. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:24, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:::But your first thought was still punishment for saying something you disagreed with. I didn’t call you names--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:25, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::::You're claiming I lied, which was extremely rude and uncalled for. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:26, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::Uncalled for? You stated an easily-provable falsity in your argument. What else was I supposed to think?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:28, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::Very bold of you to assume I was maliciously lying when I was just distracted by other tabs on my computer at the time. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:31, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Which is why you acted out of malice by running to an admin after a single occurrence instead of solely talking it out with me--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:32, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::::Because, knowing me, I was going to remind you of certain site rules, which only admins could do. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:34, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::Rules that weren’t violated--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:35, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::Correction, certain user etiquette. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:38, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::::And yet you still thought you needed an admin to scold me --[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:39, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::::Because said etiquette is documented in the site rules. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:40, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

== Attention: Rillaboom's Biology Section - Please Add Info About Its Drumsticks ==

Could you please mention where Rillaboom keeps its drumsticks? It appears that they are in the leaf-like fur near its hands (similar to how Delphox keeps its branch in the fur on its arm).

We know this Pokémon carries its drum on its back, but if we don't mention where it keeps its drumsticks, it would feel incomplete. [[User:Macpika|Macpika]] ([[User talk:Macpika|talk]]) 18:21, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

==What did I do wrong?==

I made an edit on the [[move variations]] page about adding [[m|Pika Papow]] and [[m|Veevee Volley]] to the section about [[m|Frustration]]. I edited it and added the detail about the two moves being unable to miss and it was deleted by [[u|KnightGalarie]] for “changing criteria without permission”. I don’t know what I did wrong but is there a way I can fix this so I can add these moves into the page? Or better yet, how can I get permission to change criteria without permission? I just want to be able to do better next time.
[[User:PeakA|PeakA]] ([[User talk:PeakA|talk]]) 23:13, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
:The criteria is in the first line of the article, which you did not change, so you're fine in that regard. In regards to those two moves being variations of Frustration, they are not. A move with 100% accuracy can still miss, where those two moves cannot miss.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:16, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
::That’s what it was. Thank you for telling me about this. I am going to make a new section to out these moves in as I am sure they are variations of one another. Thank you for your help. Also someone mentioned for me to take down this question but I said no. Do they have permission to do that? [[User:PeakA|PeakA]] ([[User talk:PeakA|talk]]) 15:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
:::No, they don't have permission to tell you to remove this section. I'll send a message their way.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 17:02, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

==Zeno Robinson/Ray Chase/Cherami Leigh==
With their roles of Goh, Cerise and Chloe being main or major recurring characters, I was wondering if I could mainspace the pages I created for them? [[User:BigDocFan/Zeno Robinson]], [[User:BigDocFan/Ray Chase]] and [[User:BigDocFan/Cherami Leigh]]--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 09:36, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
:I would say yes to all three, only because we know those characters are recurring/main characters.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:16, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

== Idol Trainer class ==

Hello!!

[[Hibana]] isn't a even a tainer. You removed Idol characters in the anime section who are indeed trainers, idols, and use pokémon from fairy-egg group, such as [[Brittany (EP243)|Brittany]]. If you don't remove Hibana from the Anime section, you should at least add Brittany and [[Marina (Johto)|Marina]] who also are confirmed Idol in the anime. [[User:Jeangabin666|Jeangabin666]] ([[User talk:Jeangabin666|talk]]) 13:52, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
:Hibana is referred to as an Idol. Brittany and Marina existed before the trainer class, so they can't be part of a trainer class that didn't exist at the time of their appearances (and Marina isn't even referred to as an Idol in her DP cameo).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:24, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

== Privacy cleanup ==

Hi there, just doing some Internet history cleaning for privacy reasons. Would you mind deleting my user page and its page history (and the same for talk, if that's okay), as well as wiping this edit? No need to reply, thanks. --[[user:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] 21:39, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
: For the avoidance of doubt, this is a GDPR Article 17 request for the removal of personal data. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy Appletree]] ([[User talk:Poppy Appletree|talk]]) 21:51, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
:: Hey there, just stepping in on behalf of Force Fire, for us to process this request you'll need to send an email through to privacy@bulbagarden.net and someone should be able to take care of it for you. Thanks! -[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 09:41, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

== Conflict editing ==
Hello, we're in a conflict with [[User_talk:KnightGalarie]]. I added [https://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/features/recycle/misc.html this fact] with source, which he removed and keeps removing. Bulbapedia has whole pages about [[Anime character recycling|anime recycling]] and I think this is relevent to this encyclopedia. Can you take a decision please. [[User:Jeangabin666|Jeangabin666]] ([[User talk:Jeangabin666|talk]]) 15:47, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
::You’re supposed to talk it out with the user before running to an admin. People are allowed to disagree with you. That doesn’t mean you run to administrators to plow down anyone who opposes you--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 15:49, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
:::If the building that's being recycled has a distinct design to it, then I'd say it's notable. (One off) Human characters and buildings are different in that the (one off) human characters are usually designed to be distinctive, while buildings (unless it plays some importance like a Gym or PokeCenter) aren't.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:13, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
:::Also, Jeangabin can go to a staff member if they feel that the user they are trying to communicate with isn't being overly helpful or cooperative (which your comment wasn't).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:15, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
::::Except I gave a similar explanation you did when I first removed it (how the first suburbs were all clones of one another), and instead of addressing it, they claimed I wasn’t allowed to remove it without a discussion, which isn’t true on the first removal.--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 16:18, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::The problem is you're looking at the surroundings and not the building itself, which is the focus. Of course the surrounding is going to be super vague, but that's not what's being talked about.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:23, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

== Takeshi’s Paradise performances ==

Since the running gag is far too prominent to be trivial, I’ve readied it to be moved out of the trivia section. I’ve proposed two setups on the talk page and I’m interested what you might think would be the best option: The intro, like the Pokémon Theme’s remixes are for its page, or an “In the anime” type section (name TBA) that would be placed above the Lyrics section--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 06:00, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

== Block ==

At least [https://forums.bulbagarden.net/index.php?conversations/name-change-issues.533502/ you're right] with unblocking me. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdi]][[User talk:Bfdifan2006|fan2006]]''''' 10:42, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

== I want to make a new page ==

I want to make a list of pokemon that only appear in one regional pokedex list but I don't know how to create my own page so I combined it with the list of pokemon that appear in no regional pokedex can you please let me edit that one so it can be the one I want while still being the original page? {{unsigned|Luxray4}}
:You have to be {{bp|autoconfirmed}} to be able to make a userpage. And you may not edit a pre-existing page to be what you want it to be, that article is strictly for Pokemon that do not appear in any regional Pokedex.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:48, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

== African Vulture ==

{{user|African Vulture}} is starting to get really [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ANew_series&type=revision&diff=3170025&oldid=3169968 snippy] on the talk page of the [[new series]]. Just so you know. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:38, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

:And now they're going on tangents about {{U|Abcboy}}'s location. It's weird. ([https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ANew_series&type=revision&diff=3170153&oldid=3170113] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ANew_series&type=revision&diff=3170178&oldid=3170156]) [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:27, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

== The rules apply to everyone ==

Why do you refuse to follow them, and act in such a way to make everything in your favor?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 15:55, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

== Manga ==

Hello, with all the quarantine stuff, I've been researching Pokémon manga and as you can see from some editions I did I noticed that the manga brings almost a new universe to the mythology of the franchise(Which even adds a lot of content to characters from the anime itself). Anyway, I was wondering, how can I enlist members to help contribute in this specific area?Do you think I can do something like that, or is it kind of hopeless?I ask why I usually see people more focused on Trivia or other details, and the manga part is often neglected.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 01:24, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
:Manga is not generally my area of expertise. You can see who are more knowledgeable in the manga by checking the RC and seeing who normally edits the manga related pages. The suggested page itself, if it differs dramatically from the game/anime lore (which, it probably does), then it's probably worth attempting to create in your userspace.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:43, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

== Legendary Pokemon ==

You cannot just reverting my edits, are you aware of that?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 12:24, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
:Tiddlywinks already explained on the Ultra Beasts talk page that they're not legendary Pokemon, but that's obviously not an answer you like. There are multiple sources stating that the Ultra Beasts are not legendary.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:43, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
::Can you provide any?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 17:01, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
:::I can really only repeat the source Tiddlywinks posted on the Ultra Beast talk page. And really, that should be enough to say that they are not legendary. As Tiddlywinks said, they've been referred to as non-legendary multiple times, it's not worth beating the dead horse. You're clearly never gonna get the answer you want.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 17:09, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
::::I think that they should be considered "disputed" like Phione being mythical. None of these sources is a hard proof.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 17:16, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

== What are the rules? ==

What are the rules for trivia? It seems all over the place and I get the feeling speculation isn't allowed, but some pages have it in their trivia while others don't. And do administrators here answer to non-admin users? Just so I don't have to deal with asking questions on talk pages and never getting an answer, or making edits and then having them undone without an explanation, I'm posing this [possibly futile] question. If you don't want to answer that's okay, but we're gonna bump heads again in the future and I think it's fair I give you notice. [[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|BNK]][[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|Talk]] 18:23, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
:[[User:Force Fire/Trivia Policy]]. It's not official, nor is it complete, but it's something. Speculation isn't allowed, what articles have speculation in their trivia sections? Staff members will answer to anyone's question.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:24, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

== Piplup user ==

Don't be fooled by {{U|Piplup.}}'s new account, {{user|‎ポッチャマ}}. It's the Japanese writing for {{p|Piplup}}. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:30, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
:Yes, I am aware. The Japanese names aren't on the blacklist, just the English names. Which is an easily exploitable loophole. I'll bring it up with the other staff members, but they're fine for now.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:24, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
::Oh, okay. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:52, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
:::Would Russian names also be ok, like the Japanese names?[[User:ポッチャマ|ポッチャマ]] ([[User talk:ポッチャマ|talk]]) 22:23, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
::::I'm also wondering, would transliterations of other alphabets' Pokémon's names be okay?[[User:ポッチャマ|ポッチャマ]] ([[User talk:ポッチャマ|talk]]) 22:26, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::Other language names are fine. The point of having the English names blacklisted is to avoid confusion.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:07, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

== Questionable editor ==

A user named {{user|Zarxiel94}} has made multiple consecutive edits on "[[Sync pair]]", and practically all of the edit summaries say "trying to merge the same sync pairs and using the game sync pairs stories order instead of repeating the same sync pairs and using the release order avoiding the website to consider the edit a vandalism". Seems kinda weird to me, so I thought I'd let you know. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:53, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
:Looks like they're trying to make a largescale edit by making smaller edits so not to trigger the vandal filter, which is what I got from the Sync pair talk page. Largescale edits like those needs approval anyway.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:58, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
::Figured it was something to that direction. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:24, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

== Sync Pair ==
Why my edits was cancelled? I made everything to be good and simple. Is quite dumb have for the player character for exemple 24 spaces in the list when in fact the player just have 6 Sync Pairs right now, and in future are confirmed others 3 sync pairs for him. In this way when the others sync pairs will be released jus thim will ocupy 34.--[[User:Zarxiel94|Zarxiel94]] ([[User talk:Zarxiel94|talk]]) 19:49, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
:A large-scale edit like that requires discussion with and approval from an admin. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:05, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
::I tryed to contact someone in both talk page and private page. Nobody answered me--[[User:Zarxiel94|Zarxiel94]] ([[User talk:Zarxiel94|talk]]) 20:13, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
:::Have patience. Replies can sometimes take a long time to come. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 21:00, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

== Hyfg ==

A user named Hyfg has done a couple of big vandal edits today. I've reversed them already, but I was wondering if the user should be blocked? I'll also leave it up to you to decide if the vandal edits need to be hidden. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:56, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
:Looks like you were way ahead of me. Sorry for bothering you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:57, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
::It's okay.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:01, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

== Category name? ==

Why specifically use the category name for the Obedience article?[[User:JasonL|JasonL]] ([[User talk:JasonL|talk]]) 16:13, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

== {{m|Weather Ball}} ==

I have just created a [[User:Bfdifan2006/weatherball|variation]] for the {{template|movegen}} template for the page about {{m|Weather Ball}}. This is due to the issue we discussed on {{m|Talk:Weather Ball|its talk page}}. I've told {{user|Abcboy}} about this, so staff can hold a talk on the restricted section of the forums and remove the page from {{cat|pages where template include size is exceeded|this category}}. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006]]'''''[[User talk:Bfdifan2006|something to say?]] 08:08, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
:I think the cell below the image should be the type, rather than the generation. I also think this works for the side series, might have to do something a little different for the main series games, unless you want to try it the way you have it now.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:39, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
::Yes, Force Fire, it was intended to be type, not generation, but I was just too lazy to change. I will take these changes into consideration. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006]]'''''[[User talk:Bfdifan2006|something to say?]] 08:57, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

== Request renaming this user subpage without leaving a redirect ==

Could you please rename this subpage of mine to a new title (still in my userspace) without leaving a redirect?
* [[User:SilSinn9801/Alldex testbench]]
↓
* [[User:SilSinn9801/List of Pokémon that appear in multiple regional Pokédex]]
It’s a sandboxed copy of [[User:Force Fire/List of Pokémon that appear in multiple regional Pokédex|your own mainspace-candidate page]], but using my [[User:SilSinn9801/Alldexh|sandboxed]] [[User:SilSinn9801/Alldex|modifications]] of {{template|Alldexh}} & {{template|Alldex}}.

Thankee! ‐⁠‑''[[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn]]'' ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|S]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|UM]]''') [[User talk:SilSinn9801|💬]] 17:08, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:03, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

== Asdawdasd ==

I think {{user|Asdawdasd}} may be a vandal. Take care of it? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:55, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

== Ash's Heracross's gender ==

While I personally agree that Ash's Heracross is male, the reason why its gender hasn't been added to Bulbapedia before was because some admins don't consider Pokémon in the anime that had gender differences introduced to their species in Generation IV confirmed as being of the gender matching the outlook of their gender from the games, if the individual Pokémon was introduced before Generation IV. I hope you understand what I was trying to say. And, again, I personally don't disagree with you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:17, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
:I mean... I'm one of those admins that does not consider a pre-Gen IV debuted Pokemon being of a certain post Gen IV gender. This is currently being discussed with the other staff members.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:30, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
::And yet, you still made the edit. I hope this leads to this opinion being verified. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:48, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

It's been decided that it stays at unknown, as the female variant that appeared wasn't stated to be a female Heracross. It may seem a tad strange, but the anime has shown a gendered Pokemon without its gender defining attribute (Raichu).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:27, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
:To be fair, Raichu's gender difference is pretty small, but yeah. I kinda guessed this was going to happen. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:37, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

== Mainspaced Goh's Pokémon ==

Hi good day. Since in episode 23, most of the Goh's Pokémon gained a great prominence, is there any chance that at least those who stood out as main ones like [[User:Hikaru Wazana/Goh's Beedrill|Beedril]], [[User:BigDocFan/Goh's Darmanitan|Darmanitan]], [[User:Hikaru Wazana/Goh's Cubone|Cubone]] and [[User:Riox-Ibui/Goh's Golurk|Gorluk]] are going to be in the main space?[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 12:03, 07 May 2020 (UTC)
:The requirements states that they need to have been withdrawn from Cerise's lab and taken to another region.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:51, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
::In that case, Beedrill fits this rule, right?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 12:54, 07 May 2020 (UTC)
:::Not sure if it's involvement is of note. Sure, the battle itself was important, but Beedrill itself really didn't do much.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:43, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

== Confusing username ==

{{user|Instagram}}

'''REQUEST:''' Block this user

Request sent at 11:50, 9 June 2020 (UTC) by '''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006]]'''''[[User talk:Bfdifan2006|something to say?]]
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:43, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

== Is GrammarFreak banned yet? ==

Do you think this lovely user that you just blocked was a sockpuppet? I can't imagine this person simply brought me up because they randomly selected me from a sample of users. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:05, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
:None of their IP addresses or email matches anyone else, but it is highly likely it is someone that you've crossed path with in the past.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:41, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
::Okay. Thank you for checking. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:43, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

== Kunihiko Yuyama interview for M20 ==

Would you happen to know how to use the Wayback Machine for [https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/f217f5d4d220125649d09386fb6750cfa794af9c this source], or anyone who would? I'm hoping to gain access to the original interview and use it as an external source for [[M20]]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:09, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

:Hello? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:03, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
::SnorlaxMonster may help regarding using wayback machine.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:09, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

== Category of questionable notability ==

A user created a category called "Arrested characters" for characters who have been, well, arrested in the anime. Personally, I don't see much notability in such category, but what's your opinion? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:04, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
:I had noticed that and brought it up with the other staff members earlier today. We agree that it's not notable.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:01, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

== Unacceptable username ==

A user recently registered with the username of {{u|Thots}}, and I think that should be disallowed. I mean, we wouldn't allow someone to sign up with a name like "whores" or "sluts". [[User:Mr. Daikon|Mr. Daikon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Daikon|talk]]) 20:04, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
:Dealt with.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:39, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

== Suggestion ==

I'd like to make a suggestion. Shouldn't pages like [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Physical_move#List_of_moves] not show contest category anymore? It was useful only in the 6th generation. Now it could be replaced by current mechanic like power of Max Move.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 12:51, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
:Also, power of the moves is describes as "varies" and "-" pretty inconsistently, as I pointed out here [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Metal_Burst_(move)].--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 15:38, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

==Casey Mongillo==
With their role of Goh's Scorbunny and Chrysa, I was wondering if [[User:BigDocFan/Casey Mongillo]] could be mainspaced?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 13:11, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
:They meet the first requirement, the page is good to be mainspaced.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:09, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

== Goh's Pokémon list ==

Goh keeps catching new Pokémon every other episode, making the Pokémon list on his page ever longer. Should said list (aside from probably Raboot) be split into its own separate (sub)page? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:57, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
:That has been brought up a few times, and I personally agree that it should be split off before it gets too large. I believe someone already has a subpage in their userspace. I can bring it up with other the staff members to see what they think.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:43, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

== officer Jenny is not voiced by Lipica Shaw pre bw112 ==

I'll present this in a mildly entertaining way.

Bad admin! bad! Go to your bed and think about what you done!

Just because you're an administrator dude does not mean that you are in the right or that you get to tell me I am wrong.
I defy you, my beautiful and smart Australian friend, assuming the BW anime even still is available on Ausie netflix or else if there are DVDs of BW episodes pre-BW112 to find me 1 episode in which Officer Jenny is voiced by Lipica Shaw, who hasn't even appeared in the BW series outside of voicing a battle judge in I believe BW051. Oh wait you can't because you show Shaw episodes prior to BW112 and she won't remember it because she had nothing to do with any of Jenny's apearences prior to BW112. The facts are on my side baby, and i know I don't mean maybe.
Shaw hasn't appeared in BW as Officer Jenny prior to BW112 and both Tom Wayland and the credits agree with me. Remember that? You used Tom Wayland as your source before? Was he lying? I no longer have twitter, because of some fool mistaking me for somebody else, otherwise I would have gotten a confirmation for you.
You best remove Lipica for anything prior to BW112 until you can prove she was even Jenny prior to Adentures in Unova and Beyond.
So I hope they do have the BW anime down under there because this time, it is you who must prove your case.
So can the admin prove himself that Lipica Shaw was Officer Jenny prior to BW112? or will the Admin dude have to admit that he is dead wrong, as admins often are.
This is a case where your admin status won't effect the outcome, as it's a matter of facts, not subordination.
Until you figure that out, you will be put in a water cage so your force fire can't get out of control.
Good luck proving me wrong, and how I wish I still had me a twitter so I could smash your doubt.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 15:52, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Tiddlywinks/Archive 4

2020-06-14T03:14:45Z

African Vulture: /* Officer Jenny */ new section

Officer Jenny

2020-06-14T03:03:01Z

African Vulture: Undo revision 3179691 by TiddlywinTom Wayland had previously confirmed and I los tmy twitter so I can't tweet Emily anymore.ks (talk)

{{redirect|Jenny|the movie character from [[M08|Lucario and the Mystery of Mew]]|Jenny (M08)}}
{{CharInfobox
|color={{Skill color}}
|corecolor={{Skill color light}}
|bordercolor={{ground color dark}}
|name=Officer Jenny
|jname=ジュンサー
|tmname=Junsar
|slogan=no
|image=Officer Jenny JN.png
|size=250px
|caption=Officer Jenny in ''[[Pokémon Journeys: The Series]]''
|gender=Female
|colors=yes
|eyes=Auburn{{tt|*|Hand colored episodes}}, Amber{{tt|*|Digitally colored episodes}}
|hair=Cerulean{{tt|*|Hand colored episodes}}, Teal{{tt|*|Digitally colored episodes}}
|region=[[Kanto]], [[Orange Archipelago]], [[Johto]], [[Hoenn]], [[Sinnoh]], [[Unova]], [[Decolore Islands]], [[Kalos]], [[Alola]]
|relatives=Other Officer Jennys, {{OBP|Marble|DP059}}, Unnamed brother/spouse (see {{DL||trivia}})
|game=yes
|generation={{gen|I}}, {{gen|VII}}
|games={{v2|Yellow}}, [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]]
|leader=no
|team=no
|brain=no
|anime=yes
|epnum=EP002
|epname=Pokémon Emergency!
|enva=[[Martha Harms]] ([[SM070]]-present); past voice actresses are listed [[Officer Jenny#Voice actors|here]]
|java=[[Risa Shimizu]] ([[JN003]]-present); past voice actresses are listed [[Officer Jenny#Voice actors|here]]
}}

'''Officer Jenny''' (Japanese: '''ジュンサー''' ''Junsar'', usually referred to as '''ジュンサーさん''' ''Junsar-san'') is the name by which the police officers who use {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} in their duties are referred to.

==In the anime==
===In the main series===
====History====
=====[[Original series]]=====
======Kanto======
[[File:Officer Jenny.png|thumb|left|220px|Officer Jenny before ''[[Pokémon the Series: Black & White]]'']]
Officer Jenny debuted in ''[[EP002|Pokémon Emergency]]''. She was seen at the beginning of the episode warning the citizens of [[Viridian City]] of [[Team Rocket trio|thieves in the area]] and to report suspicious-looking people immediately. Stopping {{Ash}}, who had his {{AP|Pikachu}} in his arms, she suspected him of being a thief, but once she saw his [[Pokédex]], she believed that he was a [[Pokémon Trainer]], while also mentioning that three other Trainers had come through {{ci|Viridian}} that day. Using her motorcycle, she brought Ash to the [[Pokémon Center]], and once Pikachu was in the hands of [[Nurse Joy]], she left. After {{TRT}} broke into the Pokémon Center, however, she made her way back, but appearing just in time to see the Center exploding from a combination of Pikachu's {{m|Thunder Shock}} and {{TP|James|Koffing}}'s {{m|Smog}} attacks. She stayed and helped Nurse Joy through the morning, assuring her that Ash and {{an|Misty}} will have no trouble getting through the [[Viridian Forest]].

The Officer Jenny of an unnamed [[Kanto]] town has been a recurring character in the {{pkmn|anime}}. She debuted in ''[[EP012|Here Comes the Squirtle Squad]]'', where she took in the troublesome [[Squirtle Squad]] and trained them to become a firefighting crew. She met Ash and his friends again at the [[Fire and Rescue Grand Prix]] in ''[[EP147|The Fire-ing Squad!]]'', where she and the Squirtle Squad were participating in the competition and eventually won. She allowed [[Ash's Squirtle]] to leave Ash's team and rejoin the Squirtle Squad, with the hopes that its firefighting training will make it more agile in {{pkmn|battle}}. Officer Jenny has since returned Squirtle to Ash several times, including during the [[Silver Conference]] and for Ash's match against {{FB|Pyramid King|Brandon}}.

An Officer Jenny in [[HopHopHop Town]] in ''[[EP027|Hypno's Naptime]]'' investigated the missing children as she placed posters of them for each one. She, along with Ash and {{ashfr}}, discovered that a {{p|Hypno}} from the [[Pokémon Lover's Club]] was responsible for the string of disappearances.

In ''[[EP034|The Kangaskhan Kid]]'', Officer Jenny worked as a ranger in the [[Safari Land]] Pokémon Reservation Area. After Ash attempted to throw a {{i|Poké Ball}} at a "{{p|Chansey}}" near some bushes, Officer Jenny appeared from the bushes wearing a Chansey hat. Officer Jenny took Ash and his friends to her station in the reserve. After letting the group off with a warning, she discovered Team Rocket trying to steal some {{p|Kangaskhan}} in the reserve.

In ''[[EP054|The Case of the K-9 Caper!]]'', Ash and his friends came across Officer Jenny as she and the canine police unit tackled a thief, who was actually a fellow officer in disguise. The group joined Officer Jenny at the nearby training academy, where Ash and Pikachu competed and failed against Jenny and her {{TP|Officer Jenny|Growlithe}}. Team Rocket later arrived in their van and took control of all of the Growlithe using special megaphone that changed their voices to resemble their Trainers. They were able to subdue Officer Jenny using the Growlithe, but after remembering the times it had with Officer Jenny, her Growlithe turned on Team Rocket and freed the others, forcing the trio to flee.

In ''[[EP057|The Breeding Center Secret]]'', Officer Jenny took Ash, {{an|Brock}}, [[Todd]], and the Team Rocket trio into custody after they were captured by [[Butch]] and [[Cassidy]], who accused them of being burglars. {{an|Misty}} and Pikachu recovered Todd's confiscated camera from Cassidy and showed the photographic evidence of the duo's fake breeding center scheme. Officer Jenny then released Misty's friends and arrested Butch and Cassidy.

Several Officer Jennys from all across [[Kanto]] were present at the [[Indigo Plateau]] to help keep the peace during the [[Indigo Plateau Conference]].

======Orange Islands======
In ''[[EP086|Pikachu Re-Volts]]'', [[Mandarin Island North]]'s Officer Jenny noticed a bunch of Pokémon who disobeyed their Trainers. However, her {{p|Gastly}} was the only one who was unaffected by the problem caused by [[Butch]] and [[Cassidy]]'s {{p|Drowzee}}, as Gastly is a {{type|Ghost}} Pokémon.

[[Pinkan Island]] and its rare pink Pokémon, featured in ''[[EP088|In the Pink]]'', were shown to be protected by the Officer Jenny that lives on the distant outpost, alongside a group of volunteers and {{tc|Scientist}}s. She foiled Team Rocket's attempts to steal a pink {{p|Nidoking}} and later used a lasso to calm the rampaging Drill Pokémon down.

======Johto======
In ''[[EP123|Spinarak Attack]]'', the Officer Jennys who protect [[Catallia City]] use {{p|Spinarak}} after a criminal, [[The Black Arachnid]], was stopped by one such pair hundreds of years ago. Like her ancestor, the current Officer Jenny used her own Spinarak to foil Team Rocket's crime spree.

In ''[[EP229|An EGG-sighting Adventure!]]'', Officer Jenny arrived at a [[Pokémon Center]] after Ash's {{AP|Egg|Phanpy}} disappeared. She claimed to be good at solving cases but got the suspects wrong.

An Officer Jenny and her {{p|Pidgeot}} helped Ash rescue his Pikachu from Team Rocket in ''[[EP274|Hoenn Alone]]''. Pidgeot also flew Ash and Pikachu back on to their ship as it was bound for [[Littleroot Town]] in the [[Hoenn]] [[region]].

=====''[[Pokémon the Series: Ruby and Sapphire]]''=====
In ''[[AG006|A Poached Ego!]]'', Officer Jenny was hunting down a [[Pokémon poacher]] named [[Rico]], who was illegally capturing {{type|Poison}} Pokémon in the [[Petalburg Forest]]. In the end, Rico was arrested by Jenny after his cache of {{p|Ekans}} and {{p|Koffing}} were freed by {{TRT}}.

[[Rustboro City]]'s police force was on high alert following rumors of an alleged plan to infiltrate the [[Devon Corporation]]. Despite the increased security, however, a {{tc|Team Aqua Grunt}} managed to break into the company headquarters and steal a vile of [[fossil]] DNA in ''[[AG017|Stairway to Devon]]''. [[Max]] managed to recover the sample, but the thief fled the scene. The police chase continued in the [[AG018|following episode]], and the Team Aqua Grunt managed to escape Rustboro City entirely.

In ''[[AG065|Gulpin it Down]]'', Officer Jenny took care of a swarm of {{p|Gulpin}} that were eating all of the food in a town.

In ''[[AG119|The Ribbon Cup Caper]]'', Officer Jenny was seen on board the [[S.S. St. Flower]], a luxury cruise ship headed to [[Slateport City]] for the [[Hoenn]] [[Grand Festival]]. Ash and his friends helped her track down [[Brodie]] after he stole the [[Ribbon Cup]]. Brodie later disguised himself as another Officer Jenny, but Brock was able to recognize the true one.

=====''[[Pokémon the Series: Diamond and Pearl]]''=====
In ''[[DP002|Two Degrees of Separation!]]'', an Officer Jenny from [[Sandgem Town]] escorted {{Ash}} to [[Professor Rowan]]'s lab as he searched for {{AP|Pikachu}} and {{an|Dawn}}. The same Jenny reappeared in the [[DP003|next episode]], and she was pleased that Ash was now reunited with Pikachu.

In ''[[DP009|Setting the World on Its Buneary!]]'', an Officer Jenny from [[Jubilife City]] appeared, almost running over Pikachu, who could not see due to having his eyes covered by Ash's cap. Dawn initially presumed she was the same Jenny that the group encountered previously, before Brock explained how there are multiple Jennys, like with Nurse Joy. She then explained how a disguised Team Rocket had been stealing machine parts from a nearby factory, and later caught up to them, but was not able to arrest them before they ran away. This Officer Jenny is the sister of the Jenny from Sandgem Town.

In ''[[DP033|All Dressed Up With Somewhere To Go!]]'', an Officer Jenny was one of the judges of the [[Pokémon Dress-Up Contest]] along with [[Mr. Sukizo]] and [[Nurse Joy]].

In ''[[DP036|A Secret Sphere of Influence!]]'' an Officer Jenny from [[Eterna City]] was summoned to the [[Eterna Historical Museum]]. The Officer Jenny from [[Viridian City]] was also there too.

An Officer Jenny from [[Kanto]] appeared in ''[[DP115|Stealing the Conversation!]]'' with a {{p|Chatot}} as her partner. Apparently, she had come all the way to [[Sinnoh]] to capture [[Jessie]], [[James]], and {{MTR}}, and was fully aware of them having followed Ash ever since [[Viridian City]].

In ''[[DP135|Beating the Bustle and Hustle!]]'', Officer Jenny competed in a [[Sinnoh Pokémon Hustle|Pokémon Hustle]]. She was undercover and tracked down two criminals named [[Crimson]] and [[Azure]]. She was able to get through the Pokémon Hustle and chased after the duo. After Ash defeated them, Officer Jenny successfully arrested them.

=====''[[Pokémon the Series: Black & White]]''=====
======Unova======
[[File:Officer Jenny anime BW.png|thumb|250px|Officer Jenny in ''[[Pokémon the Series: Black & White]]'']]
In ''[[BW006|Dreams by the Yard Full!]]'', an Officer Jenny arrived in [[Striaton City]] when [[Dream Mist]] shrouded the city. At the [[Dreamyard]], she discovered that the Team Rocket trio were responsible for the Dream Mist and questioned their appearance in Unova despite being Kanto-based. After Team Rocket got away using {{TP|Jessie|Woobat}}'s {{m|Gust}}, Officer Jenny went after them. Another Officer Jenny chased after Team Rocket in ''[[BW010|A Rival Battle for Club Champ!]]'' after hearing about the incident in the Dreamyard. However, Officer Jenny was unable to catch them as they escaped with the help of [[Pierce]].

[[Christie]] and [[Doyle]] helped Officer Jenny as she investigated a missing Audino in ''[[BW035|Where Did You Go, Audino?]]''. Despite their efforts, [[Ash's Roggenrola]] was credited on helping out the most.

In ''[[BW045|Beheeyem, Duosion, and the Dream Thief!]]'', after Ash, {{an|Iris}}, and {{an|Cilan}} were trapped in a dream created by {{OBP|Leon|BW045}}'s {{p|Beheeyem}}, Officer Jenny helped the group to escape the dream. They had to acknowledge that they were in the dream but since Meowth was still asleep, they were unable to get out. However, after Meowth {{m|Fury Swipes|fury swiped}} Leon, the group were able to escape the dream and Leon was then arrested by Officer Jenny.

An Officer Jenny was prepared to lay charges against a {{TP|Iris|Dragonite}} after it allegedly destroyed [[Undella Town]]'s power plant in ''[[BW089|Iris and the Rogue Dragonite!]]''. {{an|Iris}} struck a [[friendship]] with Dragonite and later protected it from Officer Jenny and her posse of {{pkmn|Trainer}}s enlisted to stop it. Jenny eventually decided to not pursue Dragonite anymore after Ash and {{an|Cilan}} revealed that Dragonite was actually protecting a group of {{p|Pidove}} when it damaged the power plant.

======Decolore Islands======
In ''[[BW129|The Pirates of Decolore!]]'', Ash and his friends helped Officer Jenny capture the notorious Pokémon pirates of the [[Decolore Islands]], who were responsible for thefts throughout the archipelago. After Ash defeated the group's {{p|Croconaw}} and {{p|Azumarill}} in a [[Double Battle]], the {{type|Water}}s agree to leave their lives of crime behind. Later, after rescuing a trio of {{p|Darumaka}} from a raft, Officer Jenny recruited them to the Decolore Coast Guard rescue squad.

=====''[[Pokémon the Series: XY]]''=====
[[File:Officer Jenny anime XY.png|thumb|left|250px|Officer Jenny in ''[[Pokémon the Series: XY]]'']]
In ''[[XY002|Lumiose City Pursuit!]]'', Officer Jenny and another police officer evacuated the [[Lumiose City]] area when [[Professor Sycamore]]'s {{p|Garchomp}} was on a rampage.

In ''[[XY007|Giving Chase at the Rhyhorn Race!]]'', Officer Jenny went up to Ash, {{an|Clemont}}, {{an|Bonnie}} and {{an|Serena}} after they saw some Rhyhorn racers running to where they were. Officer Jenny then took them to [[Odyssey Village]] after explaining that Rhyhorn racing took place there.

In ''[[XY012|To Catch a Pokémon Smuggler!]]'', she and {{p|Manectric}} chased after a smuggler named [[Dolan]] as he was stealing a bunch of {{p|Scatterbug}} and {{p|Spewpa}}. One of the Scatterbug fell out of Dolan's car and when Ash took it to a Pokémon Center, she roped Ash as she thought he was working for Dolan until {{an|Clemont}} cleared the whole situation by saying that the group wanted to help her in stopping Dolan. Officer Jenny, Ash, and his friends work together to track the smuggler. As Ash went to an abandoned laboratory and battled Dolan, Officer Jenny appeared and arrested the smuggler. The group releases all of the Scatterbug and Spewpa from Dolan's laboratory.

[[File:Madame X.png|thumb|250px|As Madame X]]
In ''[[XY019|A Conspiracy to Conquer!]]'', Officer Jenny went to investigate at a radio observatory after getting a report that strange things were going on there. In the observatory, she ran into a {{an|Malamar}}, who hypnotized her into becoming its accomplice, '''Madame X''' (Japanese: '''マダムＸ''' ''Madame X''). Later, she went to a dark cave where Team Rocket were watching a video of {{AP|Pikachu}} using his moves. Malamar hypnotized the trio except for Meowth, and Madame X went looking for Ash and his friends, with Team Rocket in tow. She found them by a tree, and Malamar took Pikachu with them to the radio observatory. Malamar hypnotizes Pikachu, who was soon under Madame X's control. When Ash and Meowth arrived, Ash's friends became hypnotized by Malamar and the duo encounter Madame X in the observation chamber. She has Pikachu use {{m|Thunderbolt}} on his own Trainer, but Ash withheld himself and got through to Pikachu. The Automatic Pikachu Retrieving Device that Clemont built earlier entered the observatory and crashes at Malamar. Officer Jenny went back to normal, and she and the gang went after Malamar, who led them to a room containing the system of great significance. Since everyone saw what Malamar was doing, it destroyed the mind-control device it was building before fleeing.

The Officer Jenny involved with the Malamar reappeared in ''[[XY054|Facing the Grand Design!]]'', where she was investigating Malamar's latest scheme at [[Grace Tower]]. She again met up with Ash, his friends and Team Rocket, and asked both sides to call it a truce. When Malamar and its two fellow ones activated the crystals to distort the [[Pokémon world]], Officer Jenny was about to conduct a plan to stop the crystals, but two of the evil Malamar caught her and the group. Officer Jenny was held by Malamar's {{m|Psychic}}, but was freed later on with the help of the good Malamar and {{p|Inkay}} from the forest. She sent out her {{TP|Officer Jenny|Manectric}} to prevent the crystals from working any further. After stopping the three evil Malamar's plan for the second time, she attempted to arrest them, but the antagonistic Malamar escaped by going into the merged crystals.

In ''[[XY066|Confronting the Darkness]]'', Officer Jenny was investigating a [[Dark Clembot|Clembot]] wreaking havoc in the Lumiose City warehouses. She mistook Clemont's [[Clembot]] as the culprit, to the point that she had to make an arrest in the [[Lumiose Gym]]. Later, when Clemont and [[Belmondo]] had their {{pkmn|battle}}, she attempted to arrest Belmondo, but Clemont wanted to finish the match. Using {{TP|Clemont|Luxray}}, Clemont was able to defeat Belmondo, and Belmondo was taken into custody, along with [[Dark Clembot]].

Officer Jenny appeared in ''[[XY119|A Full-Strength Battle Surprise!]]'' inspecting a forest area with her Manectric and a group of people. They were, however, forced to retreat due to an attack by large vines mutated by [[Team Flare]].

=====''[[Pokémon the Series: Sun & Moon]]''=====
[[File:Officer Jenny SM010.png|thumb|left|250px|Officer Jenny in ''[[Pokémon the Series: Sun & Moon]]'']]
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Officer Jenny received another redesign for ''Pokémon the Series: Sun & Moon''. Unlike other regions, which usually had an Officer Jenny in each town and city, Alola only has four in total, with each one responsible for safeguarding a specific island.

The [[Melemele Island]] Jenny debuted in ''[[SM009|To Top a Totem!]]'', where she informed people of a road closure due to fallen timber blocking the way, caused by {{rf|Alolan}} {{p|Rattata}} and {{p|Raticate}}. Later, she prepared to ambush the pests in a grocery store alongside Ash, {{an|Professor Kukui}}, [[Hala]], the {{DL|Totem Pokémon|Totem Gumshoos}}, and its {{DL|Totem Pokémon|Ally Yungoos}}. After they chased away the Rattata and Raticate, Jenny asked an Ally Gumshoos to join her team, and it accepted.

In ''[[SM010|Trial and Tribulation!]]'', the Melemele Jenny and Gumshoos visited Ash to give him a certificate as recognition of his work. She then drove Ash to [[Iki Town]] for his [[Island challenge|grand trial]] against Hala before returning to her police duties.

The Officer Jenny from [[Akala Island]] debuted in ''[[SM070|The Young Flame Strikes Back!]]''; she owns a {{p|Granbull}}. She showed up at the [[Paniola Ranch‎‎]] just in time to arrest [[Viren]] and [[Viren's henchmen|his henchmen]] when they threatened to tear down {{an|Kiawe}}’s family ranch.

[[Ula'ula Island]]'s Officer Jenny and her partner {{p|Oricorio}} debuted in ''[[SM074|Tough Guy Trials!]]''. She greeted [[Nanu]], who was preparing to take a nap.

=====''[[Pokémon Journeys: The Series]]''=====
In this series, Officer Jenny in the Kanto region now wear a different uniform rather than the uniforms they wore during {{series|original}}.

The Officer Jenny of Vermilion City reappeared in ''[[JN003|Ivysaur's Mysterious Tower!]]'', where she met Ash and [[Goh]] while they were investigating the outbreak of {{p|Ivysaur}}. She was holding traffic for a group of Ivysaur to cross the road before warning them that Team Rocket was seen in the area.

A Officer Jenny of the [[Sinnoh]] Region will appear in [[JN024]].

====Character====
Officer Jenny is not a single entity. Rather, there are many Jennys working as police officers across the various regions of the [[Pokémon world]].

Generally, Officer Jennys are brave and determined, but can be ineffective in their police duties. They fight against the likes of [[Team Rocket]], [[Team Magma]], [[Team Aqua]], and [[Team Galactic]] – among other miscellaneous criminals. Although there are many exceptions, Officer Jenny will generally have {{TP|Officer Jenny|Growlithe}} to use as a police dog.

[[File:Jenny Blue.png|thumb|220px|left|Officer Jenny before being digitally recolored in ''[[EP267|Love, Pokémon Style]]'']]
Although Jennys appear to be identical, there is some minor divergence among them, as evidenced by {{an|Brock}}. Brock is able to recognize different Jennys on numerous occasions; he appears to be the only character who can tell the Officer Jennys apart. The town/region where a certain Jenny comes from can be discerned by the symbol on their hats, which differs depending on location. There seem to be two {{ci|Viridian}} Jennys, as during the [[Indigo League]], two Jennys with the same hat symbol (previously stated to belong to the Viridian City Jenny) were seen side-by-side. The Jennys of the Orange Archipelago are outfitted with uniforms of a distinctly lighter blue color, and the Officer Jenny of [[LaRousse City]] is seen wearing a different uniform to all her counterparts, it being a far more elaborate version than the others (although it does retain the standard coloring and basic design scheme). The [[Unova]] region is home to Officer Jennys that look distinctly different than those of other regions. The Unova Officer Jennys all have a tan-colored uniform, unlike the other Jennys that wore blue. Additionally, the Jennys of Unova don a much shorter hairstyle.

When the series became digitally animated in ''[[EP261|Here's Lookin' at You, Elekid]]'', starting with ''[[EP267|Love, Pokémon Style]]'' Jenny's hair was colored in more of a greenish blue to match her [[Ken Sugimori|Sugimori]] artwork. Before this, her hair appeared to be more blue in color.

There is a very distinct parallel between the families of Officer Jenny, Nurse Joy, [[Don George]], and [[Porter]]. This may indicate some sort of relation or deeper connection. However, the only thing known about the four families is that they are apparently on good terms.

====Pokémon====
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=====Recurring=====
The following are Pokémon that recurrently appear with Officer Jenny in the anime.
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Growlithe
|main=yes
|type1=Fire
|img=Officer Jenny Growlithe.png
|epnum=EP059
|epname=The Case of the K-9 Caper
|vajp=Katsuyuki Konishi
|vajp2=Mitsuru Ogata
|vajp3=Kōichi Sakaguchi
|vaen=Maddie Blaustein
|vaennote=[[EP054]]-[[AG119]]
|vaen2=Katsuyuki Konishi
|vaen2note=[[DP033]]
|vaen3=Tom Wayland
|vaen3note=[[DP072]]-present
|desc=Growlithe is Office Jenny's main battling Pokémon from [[Kanto]], [[Johto]], [[Hoenn]], and [[Sinnoh]].}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Arcanine
|type1=Fire
|img=Officer Jenny Arcanine.png
|epnum=DP020
|epname=Mutiny in the Bounty
|desc={{p|Arcanine}} was used by the Officer Jenny that helped {{Ash}} and {{ashfr}} track down [[J|Pokémon Hunter J]].

Two more Arcanine were seen in ''[[DP059|Luxray Vision!]]'' under the ownership of an Officer Jenny.

Arcanine's only known move is {{m|Flamethrower}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Stunky
|type1=Poison
|type2=Dark
|img=Officer Jenny Stunky.png
|epnum=DP036
|epname=A Secret Sphere of Influence!
|desc={{p|Stunky}} first appeared in ''[[DP036|A Secret Sphere of Influence!]]'' under the ownership of the Officer Jenny in [[Eterna City]]. She uses its poison attacks to stop criminals and suspects.

Stunky was seen again guarding the [[Adamant Orb]] when it was being transported to [[Celestic Town]] in ''[[DP096|Losing Its Lustrous!]]''.

None of Stunky's moves are known, and its Ability is {{a|Stench}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Swanna
|type1=Water
|type2=Flying
|img=Officer Jenny Swanna.png
|epnum=BW021
|epname=The Lost World of Gothitelle!
|desc=When a strange fog started to surround the [[Skyarrow Bridge]], the Officer Jenny of the area attempted to use her {{p|Swanna}} to clear it. However, this didn't work and both Jenny and Swanna quickly left to deal with an emergency.

Several Swanna were owned by another Officer Jenny in ''[[BW081|Crisis at Ferroseed Research!]]'' and were used to help control the moss growth happening around the [[Ferroseed Research Institute]] by using {{type|Ice}} moves.

Swanna's known moves are {{m|Defog}}, {{m|Ice Beam}}, and {{m|Blizzard}}{{tt|*|Swanna cannot learn Blizzard in the games.}}.}}
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Herdier
|type1=Normal
|img=Officer Jenny Herdier.png
|epnum=BW022
|epname=A Venipede Stampede!
|desc=Officer Jenny's Herdier first appeared in [[Castelia City]], where they tried to help curb the tide of invading {{p|Venipede}}.

One later appeared in ''[[BW052|Ash Versus the Champion!]]''.

Herdier's only known move is {{m|Shadow Ball}}.}}
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Manectric
|main=yes
|type1=Electric
|img=Officer Jenny Manectric.png
|epnum=XY008
|epname=Grooming Furfrou!
|vajp=Kensuke Satō
|vaen=Jake Paque
|desc=Manectric is Officer Jenny's main battling Pokémon from [[Kalos]].}}
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Gumshoos
|main=yes
|type1=Normal
|img=Officer Jenny Gumshoos.png
|epnum=SM009
|epname=To Top a Totem!
|vajp=Kaito Ishikawa
|vaen=Billy Bob Thompson
|desc=An Officer Jenny on Melemele Island teamed up with a Gumshoos from [[Verdant Cavern]].}}

=====Other=====
During the course of the anime, various individual Officer Jennys have had the following Pokémon:

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Squirtle (×5)
|nick=Squirtle Squad
|main=yes
|type1=Water
|img=Squirtle Squad.png
|epnum=EP012
|epname=Here Comes the Squirtle Squad
|vajp=Shin'ichirō Miki
|vajp2=Ikue Ohtani
|vajp3=Unshō Ishizuka
|vaen=Eric Stuart
|desc=The Squirtle Squad was a gang of abandoned trouble-making {{p|Squirtle}} until they were adopted by Officer Jenny, who uses them to fight fires. Their leader is [[Ash's Squirtle]].}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Gastly
|type1=Ghost
|type2=Poison
|img=Officer Jenny Gastly.png
|epnum=EP086
|epname=Pikachu Re-Volts
|vaen=Ted Lewis{{!}}Ed Paul
|desc=This {{p|Gastly}} was used by the Jenny on [[Mandarin Island North]]. It was able to use its ghost moves to find [[Butch]], [[Cassidy]] and their {{p|Drowzee}}, who had brainwashed all of the other Pokémon on the island, being immune to the brainwash itself. It has an unusually high Special Defense, as it was later used to protect Ash from the combined attacks of the controlled Pokémon. Gastly is kept [[Walking Pokémon|outside its Poké Ball]].

Gastly's only known move is {{m|Psywave}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Spinarak
|type1=Bug
|type2=Poison
|img=Officer Jenny Spinarak.png
|epnum=EP123
|epname=Spinarak Attack
|desc=A {{p|Spinarak}} is used by the Jenny in [[Catallia City]] as a living testament to the Spinarak that had stopped [[The Black Arachnid]].

It reappeared in {{an|Misty}}'s flashback in the Japanese version of ''[[EP273|Gotta Catch Ya Later!]]''.

Spinarak's known moves are {{m|String Shot}} and {{m|Spider Web}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Wobbuffet
|type1=Psychic
|img=Officer Jenny Wobbuffet.png
|epnum=EP173
|epname=Wobbu-Palooza!
|vajp=
|vaen=Kayzie Rogers
|desc=The Officer Jenny in [[Wobbuffet Village]] uses a {{p|Wobbuffet}} to help her protect the order in the village.

None of Wobbuffet's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Jumpluff
|type1=Grass
|type2=Flying
|img=Officer Jenny Jumpluff.png
|epnum=EP229
|epname=An EGG-sighting Adventure!
|desc=This {{p|Jumpluff}} is used by a Jenny somewhere en route from [[Mahogany Town]] to [[Blackthorn City]]. It can sprinkle its spores in order to find [[footprint]]s.

None of Jumpluff's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Pidgeot
|type1=Normal
|type2=Flying
|img=Officer Jenny Pidgeot.png
|epnum=EP274
|epname=Hoenn Alone!
|desc=Officer Jenny uses a {{p|Pidgeot}} in a port town between [[Kanto]] and [[Hoenn]]. It is used to search for criminals from the air.

None of Pidgeot's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Parasect
|type1=Bug
|type2=Grass
|img=Officer Jenny Parasect.png
|epnum=AG065
|epname=Gulpin it Down
|desc=The Officer Jenny in a town near [[Petalburg City]] used this {{p|Parasect}}, in addition to her {{p|Tangela}} and {{p|Meganium}}, to try to stop the mass army of {{p|Gulpin}} that were rioting around the town.

Parasect's only known move is {{m|Stun Spore}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Tangela
|type1=Grass
|img=Officer Jenny Tangela.png
|epnum=AG065
|epname=Gulpin it Down
|desc=The Officer Jenny in a town near [[Petalburg City]] used a {{p|Tangela}}, in addition to her {{p|Parasect}} and {{p|Meganium}}, to try to stop the mass army of {{p|Gulpin}} that were rioting around the town.

Tangela's only known move is {{m|Vine Whip}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Meganium
|type1=Grass
|img=Officer Jenny Meganium.png
|epnum=AG065
|epname=Gulpin it Down
|desc=The Officer Jenny in a town near [[Petalburg City]] used her {{p|Meganium}}, in addition to her {{p|Parasect}} and {{p|Tangela}}, to try to stop the mass army of {{p|Gulpin}} that were rioting around the town.

Meganium's only known move is {{m|Razor Leaf}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Marble
|pkmn=Luxray
|stage1=Luxio
|type1=Electric
|img=Marble Luxray.png
|epnum=DP059
|epname=Luxray Vision!
|vajp=Katsuyuki Konishi
|vaen=Sarah Natochenny
|desc={{OBP|Marble|DP059}}'s Luxray was having serious problems when Marble met the gang. It had recently evolved from {{p|Luxio}} and was unable to use {{type|Electric}} moves, making it a liability to Officer Jenny. As a result, Luxray developed a serious attitude problem, which not only caused it to constantly disobey Marble, but also caused it to fight other Electric-type Pokémon, like it did with {{AP|Pikachu}}.

After Team Rocket stole the [[Old Charm]] from under Marble's nose, Luxray and Pikachu were trapped below the mansion it was guarding in a maze filled with traps. After being saved by Pikachu from a trap, Luxray's attitude softened and it became friends with Pikachu. Luxray's enhanced eyesight allowed it so see other booby traps and it was able to save Pikachu from one later. After reestablishing its bond with Marble and regaining its Electric-type moves, it helped defeat Team Rocket and recover the Old Charm.

Luxray's known moves are {{m|Charge Beam}}, {{m|Iron Tail}}, and {{m|Thunder Fang}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|nick=Buddy
|pkmn=Chatot
|type1=Normal
|type2=Flying
|img=Officer Jenny Buddy.png
|epnum=DP115
|epname=Stealing the Conversation!
|desc='''Buddy''' the {{p|Chatot}} is used by the Officer Jenny in a town near [[Snowpoint City]]. It had been the officer's partner since a stake out in which Buddy caught a criminal. It was not given a nickname in the Japanese version.

Buddy's known moves are {{m|Peck}}, {{m|Feather Dance}} and {{m|Steel Wing}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Duosion
|type1=Psychic
|img=Officer Jenny Duosion.png
|epnum=BW045
|epname=Beheeyem, Duosion, and the Dream Thief!
|vajp=Megumi Hayashibara
|vaen=Erica Schroeder
|desc=Officer Jenny used {{p|Duosion}} to help locate a so-called "[[Leon (BW045)|Dream Thief]]".

Duosion's known moves are {{m|Psywave}}, {{m|Psyshock}}, {{m|Flash Cannon}} and {{m|Protect}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Ferrothorn
|type1=Grass
|type2=Steel
|img=Officer Jenny Ferrothorn.png
|epnum=BW089
|epname=Iris and the Rogue Dragonite!
|vajp=
|vaen=
|desc=An Officer Jenny in [[Undella Town]] used {{p|Ferrothorn}} in an attempt to catch a [[Iris's Dragonite|Dragonite]].

Ferrothorn's only known move is {{m|Flash Cannon}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Croconaw
|type1=Water
|img=Officer Jenny Croconaw.png
|epnum=BW129
|epname=The Pirates of Decolore!
|vajp=Unshō Ishizuka
|vaen=Carter Cathcart
|desc=During their travels through the [[Decolore Islands]], {{Ash}} and {{ashfr}} encountered a group of Water-type Pokémon who were stealing food from their ferry, with {{p|Croconaw}} as their leader. All four Pokémon in the so-called Pirate gang had been abandoned by their Trainers and were distrustful of humans. Ash battled Croconaw and {{p|Azumarill}} with {{AP|Snivy}} and {{AP|Pignite}} and won, forcing the pirates to hand over what they had stolen. Croconaw then led its friends to save a group of {{p|Darumaka}} that were being swept out to sea, and found it enjoyed rescuing others. As a result, the pirates joined up with Officer Jenny as a Water Rescue Squad.

Croconaw's known moves are {{m|Water Gun}}, {{m|Hydro Pump}}, {{m|Hidden Power}} and {{m|Iron Tail}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|stage1=Marill
|pkmn=Azumarill
|type1=Water
|img=Officer Jenny Azumarill.png
|epnum=BW129
|epname=The Pirates of Decolore!
|vajp=
|vaen=Kayzie Rogers
|desc={{p|Azumarill}} was a powerful and eager member of Croconaw's pirate gang, who had no problems with stealing food from humans. It battled Snivy and Pignite alongside Croconaw but was defeated. However, it did assist in the rescue of the Darumaka before happily joining Officer Jenny.

Azumarill's known moves are {{m|Water Gun}}, {{m|Bubble Beam}}, {{m|Slam}} and {{m|Hydro Pump}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|stage1=Remoraid
|pkmn=Octillery
|type1=Water
|img=Officer Jenny Octillery.png
|epnum=BW129
|epname=The Pirates of Decolore!
|vajp=
|vaen=
|desc={{p|Octillery}} was another powerful member of Croconaw's pirate gang, and would often battle any Pokémon it came across. Like the other Pokémon in the gang, Octillery was abandoned by its Trainer. However, it had a happy ending and also joined Officer Jenny's new squad.

Octillery's known moves are {{m|Constrict}}, {{m|Aurora Beam}} and {{m|Water Gun}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Ducklett
|type1=Water
|type2=Flying
|img=Officer Jenny Ducklett.png
|epnum=BW129
|epname=The Pirates of Decolore!
|vajp=
|vaen=
|desc={{p|Ducklett}}, another abandoned Water-type Pokémon, was the fourth member of Croconaw's gang and was responsible for keeping the raft they traveled on from drifting away. Ducklett later joined Officer Jenny's squad after participating in the Darumaka rescue.

Ducklett's only known move is {{m|Water Gun}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Granbull
|type1=Fairy
|img=Officer Jenny Granbull.png
|epnum=SM070
|epname=The Young Flame Strikes Back!
|desc=This {{p|Granbull}} is used by the Jenny on [[Akala Island]]. It stopped [[Viren]] and [[Viren's henchmen|his henchmen]] from escaping after Officer Jenny arrived to arrest them for attempting to destroy [[Paniola Ranch]].

None of Granbull's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Oricorio
|type1=Fire
|type2=Flying
|img=Officer Jenny Oricorio.png
|vajp=Chika Fujimura
|vaen=Erica Schroeder
|epnum=SM074
|epname=Tough Guy Trials!
|desc=This {{DL|List of Pokémon with form differences|Oricorio|Baile Style}} {{p|Oricorio}} is used by the Jenny on [[Ula'ula Island]].

None of Oricorio's moves are known.}}

=====Mentioned=====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Blastoise
|type1=Water
|img=Officer Jenny Blastoise.png
|epnum=AG125
|epname=Like a Meowth to a Flame
|desc=One of the Officer Jennys guarding the [[Ever Grande Conference]] mentioned that she owned a {{p|Blastoise}}, which she attempted to use to stop {{TRT}} who had stolen the flame of {{p|Moltres}}. However, [[Nurse Joy]] stopped her since Blastoise could accidentally put out the fire.

None of Blastoise's moves are known.}}

=====Temporary=====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Malamar
|type1=Dark
|type2=Psychic
|img=Officer Jenny Malamar.png
|epnum=XY019
|epname=A Conspiracy to Conquer!
|vajp=Kensuke Satō
|vaen=Marc Thompson
|desc={{main|Malamar (anime)}}

During their journey through Kalos, {{ashfr|the gang}} encountered a villain named Madame X who used her {{p|Malamar}} to hypnotize them. During their attempts to free themselves, they found that Madame X was actually Officer Jenny and it was actually Malamar who was the true villain of the story, using its powers to control others. Eventually Ash and Team Rocket combined their Pokémon's attacks and managed to defeat the evil Pokémon, which nevertheless managed to escape.

Malamar's known moves at the time were {{m|Hypnosis}} and {{m|Psychic}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Pumpkaboo
|gender=female
|type1=Ghost
|type2=Grass
|img=Officer Jenny Inkay Pumpkaboo.png
|epnum=XY019
|epname=A Conspiracy to Conquer!
|vajp=Megumi Satou
|vaen=Haven Paschall
|desc={{main|Jessie's Pumpkaboo}}

During her time as Madame X, Officer Jenny took control of Pumpkaboo.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Inkay
|gender=male
|type1=Dark
|type2=Psychic
|img=Officer Jenny Inkay Pumpkaboo.png
|epnum=XY019
|epname=A Conspiracy to Conquer!
|vajp=Kenta Miyake
|vaen=Mike Liscio
|desc={{main|James's Inkay}}

During her time as Madame X, Officer Jenny took control of Inkay.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Wobbuffet
|gender=male
|type1=Psychic
|img=Officer Jenny Wobbuffet XY019.png
|epnum=XY019
|epname=A Conspiracy to Conquer!
|vajp=Yūji Ueda
|vaen=Kayzie Rogers
|desc={{main|Jessie's Wobbuffet}}

During her time as Madame X, Officer Jenny took control of Wobbuffet.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Pikachu
|gender=male
|type1=Electric
|img=Officer Jenny Pikachu.png
|epnum=XY019
|epname=A Conspiracy to Conquer!
|vajp=Ikue Ohtani
|vaen=Ikue Ohtani
|desc={{main|Ash's Pikachu}}

During her time as Madame X, Officer Jenny took control of Pikachu with Malamar's help and forced him to attack {{Ash}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Dedenne
|gender=male
|type1=Electric
|type2=Fairy
|img=Officer Jenny Dedenne.png
|epnum=XY019
|epname=A Conspiracy to Conquer!
|vajp=Megumi Satou
|vaen=Megumi Satou
|desc={{main|Clemont's Dedenne}}

During her time as Madame X, Officer Jenny took control of Dedenne.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Beedrill
|type1=Bug
|type2=Poison
|img=Officer Jenny Pangoro Beedrill Exploud Noivern.png
|epnum=XY019
|epname=A Conspiracy to Conquer!
|desc=During her time as Madame X, Officer Jenny took control of a {{p|Beedrill}}. When {{ashfr|the gang}} arrived and Malamar possessed them except for Ash, she opened the doors to reveal it and it went after Ash and {{MTR}}.

None of Beedrill's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Noivern
|type1=Flying
|type2=Dragon
|img=Officer Jenny Pangoro Beedrill Exploud Noivern.png
|epnum=XY019
|epname=A Conspiracy to Conquer!
|desc=During her time as Madame X, Officer Jenny took control of a {{p|Noivern}}. When {{ashfr|the gang}} arrived and Malamar possessed them except for Ash, she opened the doors to reveal it and it went after Ash and {{MTR}}.

None of Noivern's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Scolipede
|type1=Bug
|type2=Poison
|img=Officer Jenny Exploud Noivern Scolipede.png
|epnum=XY019
|epname=A Conspiracy to Conquer!
|desc=During her time as Madame X, Officer Jenny took control of a {{p|Scolipede}}. When {{ashfr|the gang}} arrived and Malamar possessed them except for Ash, she opened the doors to reveal it and it went after Ash and {{MTR}}.

None of Scolipede's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Exploud
|type1=Normal
|img=Officer Jenny Pangoro Beedrill Exploud Noivern.png
|epnum=XY019
|epname=A Conspiracy to Conquer!
|desc=During her time as Madame X, Officer Jenny took control of an {{p|Exploud}}. When {{ashfr|the gang}} arrived and Malamar possessed them except for Ash, she opened the doors to reveal it and it went after Ash and {{MTR}}.

None of Exploud's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Pangoro
|type1=Fighting
|type2=Dark
|img=Officer Jenny Pangoro Beedrill Exploud Noivern.png
|epnum=XY019
|epname=A Conspiracy to Conquer!
|desc=During her time as Madame X, Officer Jenny took control of a {{p|Pangoro}}. When {{ashfr|the gang}} arrived and Malamar possessed them except for Ash, she opened the doors to reveal it and it went after Ash and {{MTR}}.

None of Pangoro's moves are known.}}

====Voice actors====
{{vatable|color={{Skill color}}|bordercolor={{ground color dark}}
|ja=西村ちなみ ''[[Chinami Nishimura]]'' ([[EP002]]-[[DP166]], [[BWS01]]) たかはし智秋 ''[[Chiaki Takahashi]]'' ([[BW006]]-[[BW138]]) 石松千恵美 ''[[Chiemi Ishimatsu]]'' ([[XY002]]-[[XY135]]) 瀬戸麻沙美 ''[[Asami Seto]]'' ([[SM009]]-[[SM128]]) 清水理沙 ''[[Risa Shimizu]]'' ([[JN003]]-present)
|en=[[Lee Quick]] ([[EP002]]-[[AG065]], [[M01]]-[[M07]], [[Pokémon Chronicles]]) [[Jamie Davyous Owens]] ([[AG119]]-[[AG142]]) [[Kayzie Rogers]] ([[The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon|MoMP]]) [[List of English voice actors|Maya Rosewood]] ([[AG155]]) [[Emily Williams]] ([[AG188]]-[[DP166]]) [[Lipica Shah]] ([[BW112]]-[[BW138]]) [[Saskia Maarleveld]] ([[XY002]]-[[XY135]]) [[Samantha Moon]] ([[SM009]]-[[SM039]]) [[Martha Harms]] ([[SM070]]-present) [[Emily Jenness]] ([[BW006]]-[[BW101]], [[M22]])
|ar=فدوى سليمان ''Fadwa Suleiman''
|ca=Sílvia Cabrera
|cs=Kateřina Lojdová ([[EP002]]-[[EP195]]) Jana Páleníčková ([[DP002]]-present)
|da=Ann Hjort Simone Drechsler
|nl=Edna Kalb
|fil=Candice Arellano
|fi=Tiina Räsänen ([[EP002]], [[EP007]]) Jenni Sivonen ([[EP012]], [[EP016]], [[EP027]]-[[EP036]], [[EP046]]-[[EP062]], [[EP074]]-[[EP173]], [[M01]]) Minna Tasanto ([[EP020]], [[EP045]]) Elise Langenoja ([[EP067]], [[EP267]]-[[AG142]], [[DP002]]-[[DP166]], [[The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon|MoMP]]) Unknown voice actress ([[AG155]], [[DP072]], [[DP104]]) Henna Haverinen ([[AG189]]-[[AG190]], [[BW006]]-[[BW022]]) Ella Pyhältö ([[M13]]) Marjut Heikkinen ([[BW035]]-[[BW052]]) Saara Lehtonen ([[BW078]], [[SM070]]-present) Amy Burgess ([[BW089]], [[BW097]], [[XY135]], [[XY139]]) Susa Saukko ([[BW057]], [[BW101]]-[[BW112]], [[XY119]], [[XY132]]) Katja Sirkiä ([[BW117]]-[[XY111]], [[SM009]]-[[SM039]])
|fr_ca=Camille Cyr-Desmarais
|fr_eu=Guylaine Gibert
|de=Stefanie von Lerchenfeld Beate Pfeiffer Solveig Duda Nina Kapust
|he=נטע רווה ''Netta Ravé'' עדי בר לב ''Adi Bar Lev'' ([[XY002]]-present)
|hu=Árkosi Kati
|is=Linda Gunnarsdóttir ([[M03]])
|it=Marcella Silvestri Monica Bonetto Sonia Mazza Elisabetta Spinelli Renata Bertolas Katia Sorrentino
|ko=이선주 ''Lee Seon-Ju'' ([[original series]], all {{pkmn|movie}}s) 김서영 ''Kim Seo-Yeong'' (''[[Pokémon the Series: Ruby and Sapphire]]'')
|no=Katrine Blomstrand ([[EP002]]–[[EP102]]) Siv Klynderud
|pl=Małgorzata Maślanka-Krajewska ([[EP002]]-[[EP195]], [[M01]]) Katarzyna Łukaszyńska ([[EP216]]-[[AG018]]) Katarzyna Pysiak-Owczarz ([[DP002]]-[[DP045]], [[DP112]]-[[BW138]], [[M13]], [[EP012]]{{tt|*|Redub - one scene}}, [[EP034]]{{tt|*|Redub}}) Katarzyna Łaska ([[DP060]]) Joanna Domańska ([[DP064]]-[[DP104]]) Brygida Turowska ([[XY002]]-present)
|pt_br=Raquel Marinho (seasons 1-7 & 14-16) Sandra Mara Azevedo ([[EP062]]) Gilmara Sanches (seasons 8-13) Luciana Baroli and Elisa Villon ([[DP036]]) Priscila Franco (Season 17-present) Mariana Torres ([[XY111]]-present)
|pt_eu=Teresa Madruga ([[EP002]]-[[EP034]]) Sandra de Castro ([[EP045]]-[[EP129]]) Dora Cruz ([[EP133]]-[[EP195]]) Carla ([[EP216]]-[[AG065]]) Isabel Ribas ([[AG119]]-[[AG155]]) Unknown voice actress ([[AG189]]-[[AG190]]) Rita Fernandes ([[DP002]]-[[DP045]]) Zélia Santos ([[DP059]]-[[DP166]]) Ângela Marques ([[BW006]]-present)
|es_la=Ana María Grey ([[EP002]]-[[EP012]]) Mayra Arellano ([[EP016]]-[[AG018]], [[DP158]]-[[BW138]]) Erica Edwards ([[AG065]], [[The Legend of Thunder!|TLoT]], [[HS08]]) Cristina Hernández ([[AG119]]-[[DP104]]) Betzabe Jara ([[DP112]]-[[DP157]]) Claudia Contreras ([[XY002]]-present, [[EP007]]{{tt|*|redub}})
|es_eu=Valle Acebrón ([[EP002]]-[[EP236]]) Isacha Mengíbar ([[EP267]]-[[DP166]]) Beatriz Berciano ([[BW006]]-[[BW138]]) Silvia Sarmentera ([[XY002]]-[[XY135]]) Unknown voice actress ([[SM009]]-present)
|tr=Mehpare Özlük
|vi=Võ Huyền Chi ([[BW006]]-[[BWS01]], [[SM009]]-[[SM010]]) Nguyễn Thụy Thùy Tiên ([[S17]]-[[S18]]) Nguyễn Kim Anh ([[S01]], [[S19]]) Thu Huyền ([[M13]]) Phan Hoài Thương ([[M22]])}}

====Artwork====
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|-
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| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{skill color dark}}; background: #{{skill color light}}; width:96px" | [[File:Jenny anime.png|250px]]
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{skill color dark}}; background: #{{skill color light}}; width:96px" | [[File:Officer Jenny BW.png|100px]]
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{skill color dark}}; background: #{{skill color light}}; width:96px" | [[File:Officer Jenny XY.png|100px]]
|-
| Official artwork from the {{color2|000|original series}}
| Official artwork from ''{{color2|000|Pokémon the Series: Ruby and Sapphire}}''
| Official artwork from ''{{color2|000|Pokémon the Series: Black & White}}''
| Official artwork from ''{{color2|000|Pokémon the Series: XY}}''
|}

===In ''[[M21|The Power of Us]]''===
{{incomplete|section|2=More specific details on role}}
An Officer Jenny appeared in ''[[M21|The Power of Us]]'', where she was working in [[Fula City]] with {{TP|Officer Jenny|Growlithe}} as her partner.

====Pokémon====
{{TrainerPoké
|main=yes
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Growlithe
|gender=
|type1=Fire
|img=058Growlithe.png
|epnum=M21
|epname=The Power of Us
|desc=The Officer Jenny of [[Fula City]] has a {{p|Growlithe}} helping her.}}

====Voice actors====
{{vatable|color={{Skill color}}|bordercolor={{ground color dark}}
|ja=瀬戸麻沙美 ''[[Asami Seto]]''
|en=[[Emily Jenness]]
|fi=Jenni Sivonen}}

==In the games==
In {{game|Yellow}}, Officer Jenny will give out a {{p|Squirtle}} in [[Vermilion City]], as a reference to Ash's Squirtle in the anime. Another Officer Jenny also replaces the {{tc|Policeman|generic male officer}} in [[Cerulean City]].

The Officer Jenny with the Squirtle appears in a slightly expanded role in [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]]. After defeating [[Misty]], a Squirtle appears and harasses the Officer, forcing her to leave her post in front of the burgled house in Cerulean. The player later finds the Officer and Squirtle in Vermilion, where Officer Jenny will give the player the Squirtle to look after if they have caught 60 individual Pokémon. Another Officer Jenny near [[Saffron City]]'s [[Saffron Gym|Gym]] will give them a set of [[clothing|police clothing]] after they defeat [[Team Rocket]] in [[Silph Co.]].

===Pokémon===
====Gives away====
{|
|-
!{{game|Yellow}}
![[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]]
|- style="vertical-align:top"
|{{Pokémon/1
|game=Yellow
|ndex=007
|pokemon=Squirtle
|level=10
|type1=Water
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal
|move2=Tail Whip|move2type=Normal
|move3=Bubble|move3type=Water}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|game=PE
|ndex=007
|pokemon=Squirtle
|gender=both
|level=16
|type1=Water
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Tail Whip|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Bubble|move3type=Water|move3cat=Special
|move4=Withdraw|move4type=Water|move4cat=Status}}
|}

===Appearance===
{{incomplete|section|Missing overworld model from LGPE}}
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|-
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{ground color dark}}; background: #{{Skill color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Officer Jenny OD.png]]
|-
| Overworld sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Yellow Version|Yellow}}
|}

===Quotes===
'''Cerulean City'''
:''"These poor people here were robbed. We're postive that <sc>[[Team Rocket]]</sc> is behind this terrible deed. Even our <sc>Police Force</sc> has trouble with the {{tc|Team Rocket Grunt|<sc>Rocket</sc>s}}!"''

'''Vermilion City'''
* Before obtaining the {{badge|Thunder}}
:''"I just caught a <sc>{{p|Squirtle}}</sc> that was always getting into mischief. I think it needs a good trainer to get it straight."''

* After obtaining the Thunder Badge
:''"You have the <sc>Thunder Badge</sc>!? You must be a good trainer! I just caught a <sc>Squirtle</sc> that was always getting into mischief. Would you take good care of it?"''
::'''No''': ''"Oh... What am I to do now?"''
::'''Yes''': (after giving the Squirtle to the player) ''"OK! Please treat <sc>Squirtle</sc> right!"''

* If talked to again
:''"How is <sc>Squirtle</sc> doing?"''

==In the manga==
[[File:Officer Jenny EToP.png|thumb|200px|Officer Jenny in The Electric Tale of Pikachu]]
===In The Electric Tale of Pikachu manga===
An Officer Jenny makes a brief cameo in ''[[ET07|Pikachu's Excellent Adventure]]'', where she is chasing {{TRT}} in a helicopter. Generic police officers appear as well.

It is stated that {{an|Brock}} is the only character that can tell the Officer Jennys apart.

===In the movie adaptations===
Officer Jenny appeared in ''{{ma|Hoopa and the Clash of Ages}}''.

==Trivia==
* In ''[[EP007|The Water Flowers of Cerulean City]]'', the Officer Jenny of Cerulean City refers to the one in Viridian City as her sister-in-law. This implies that one of them is married, probably the one in Viridian City since the Cerulean Jenny didn't mention a spouse when Brock asked her out.
* Officer Jenny, [[Nurse Joy]], and [[Don George]] all have Japanese names that begin with the kana ジ, while their English names all start with the same sound, {{wp|dʒ}}. They also all happen to be part of a large, extended family.
* The Officer Jennys in [[Kanto]], the [[Orange Archipelago]], [[Johto]], [[Hoenn]], and [[Sinnoh]] can be distinguished by the design of the symbol on their hat, the Jennys of [[Unova]] and [[Kalos]] are identified by the color of the symbol, and the officer Jenny's of [[Alola]] are identified by the color of the stripe on their vest.

==Names==
{| class="roundy" style="float:left; background: #{{Skill color}}; border: 3px solid #{{ground color dark}}"
|-
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Japanese
| ジュンサー ''Junsar''
| From 巡査 ''junsa'' (police)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| English
| Officer Jenny
| Likely chosen for its similarity to the Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Bulgarian
| Полицай Дженни ''Politsay Dzhenni'' {{tt|*|Diamond and Pearl series}} Сержант Дженни ''Serzhant Dzhenni''
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and mainland China}})
| 君莎 ''Jūnshā''
| Transliteration of her Japanese name.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Cantonese|Hong Kong}})
| 君莎 ''Gwānsā''
| Transliteration of her Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Danish
| Betjent Jenny Assistent Jenny{{tt|*|M01}}
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Dutch
| Agent Jenny
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Finnish
| Konstaapeli Jenny
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| French
| Agent Jenny
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| German
| Officer Rocky
|
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Icelandic
| Jenny Lögreglukona
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Italian
| Agente Jenny
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Korean
| 여경 ''Yeogyeong''
| Can translate as "female police" 女警
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Malay
| Officer Jenny{{tt|*|in later episodes}} Pegawai Jenny{{tt|*|in earlier episodes}}
| Same as English name From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Norwegian
| Offiser Jenny{{tt|*|Pokémon the Series: Black & White - present}} Konstabel Jenny{{tt|*|M01, M03}}
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Polish
| Sierżant Jenny{{tt|*|Diamond and Pearl series onwards}} Oficer Jenny{{tt|*|EP062 to Advanced}} Policjantka Jenny{{tt|*|EP012, EP054, EP267, AG002}} Posterunkowa Jenny{{tt|*|M01, M03}}
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Brazilian Portuguese
| Oficial Jenny{{tt|*|anime, The Official Pokémon Handbook}} Policial Jenny{{tt|*|Pokémon Characters Guidebook}}
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Romanian
| Polițista Jenny
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Russian
| Oфицер Дженни ''Ofitser Dzhenni'' Полицейская Дженни ''Politseyskaya Dzhenni''{{tt|*|BW101}}
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Spanish
| Agente Mara
|
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Swedish
| Konstapel Jenny Polisen Jenny{{tt|*|M03 subtitles}} Anbefäl Jenny{{tt|*|M01}}
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Turkish
| Memure Jenny
| From English name
|}
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Officer Jenny

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African Vulture: /* Voice actors */ The voice from BW006 to BW101 is the exact same voice as m22, it changes to Shaw in BW112. Notice how Shaw doesn't even appear in credits until bw112?

{{redirect|Jenny|the movie character from [[M08|Lucario and the Mystery of Mew]]|Jenny (M08)}}
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|colors=yes
|eyes=Auburn{{tt|*|Hand colored episodes}}, Amber{{tt|*|Digitally colored episodes}}
|hair=Cerulean{{tt|*|Hand colored episodes}}, Teal{{tt|*|Digitally colored episodes}}
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|relatives=Other Officer Jennys, {{OBP|Marble|DP059}}, Unnamed brother/spouse (see {{DL||trivia}})
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|generation={{gen|I}}, {{gen|VII}}
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|epname=Pokémon Emergency!
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'''Officer Jenny''' (Japanese: '''ジュンサー''' ''Junsar'', usually referred to as '''ジュンサーさん''' ''Junsar-san'') is the name by which the police officers who use {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} in their duties are referred to.

==In the anime==
===In the main series===
====History====
=====[[Original series]]=====
======Kanto======
[[File:Officer Jenny.png|thumb|left|220px|Officer Jenny before ''[[Pokémon the Series: Black & White]]'']]
Officer Jenny debuted in ''[[EP002|Pokémon Emergency]]''. She was seen at the beginning of the episode warning the citizens of [[Viridian City]] of [[Team Rocket trio|thieves in the area]] and to report suspicious-looking people immediately. Stopping {{Ash}}, who had his {{AP|Pikachu}} in his arms, she suspected him of being a thief, but once she saw his [[Pokédex]], she believed that he was a [[Pokémon Trainer]], while also mentioning that three other Trainers had come through {{ci|Viridian}} that day. Using her motorcycle, she brought Ash to the [[Pokémon Center]], and once Pikachu was in the hands of [[Nurse Joy]], she left. After {{TRT}} broke into the Pokémon Center, however, she made her way back, but appearing just in time to see the Center exploding from a combination of Pikachu's {{m|Thunder Shock}} and {{TP|James|Koffing}}'s {{m|Smog}} attacks. She stayed and helped Nurse Joy through the morning, assuring her that Ash and {{an|Misty}} will have no trouble getting through the [[Viridian Forest]].

The Officer Jenny of an unnamed [[Kanto]] town has been a recurring character in the {{pkmn|anime}}. She debuted in ''[[EP012|Here Comes the Squirtle Squad]]'', where she took in the troublesome [[Squirtle Squad]] and trained them to become a firefighting crew. She met Ash and his friends again at the [[Fire and Rescue Grand Prix]] in ''[[EP147|The Fire-ing Squad!]]'', where she and the Squirtle Squad were participating in the competition and eventually won. She allowed [[Ash's Squirtle]] to leave Ash's team and rejoin the Squirtle Squad, with the hopes that its firefighting training will make it more agile in {{pkmn|battle}}. Officer Jenny has since returned Squirtle to Ash several times, including during the [[Silver Conference]] and for Ash's match against {{FB|Pyramid King|Brandon}}.

An Officer Jenny in [[HopHopHop Town]] in ''[[EP027|Hypno's Naptime]]'' investigated the missing children as she placed posters of them for each one. She, along with Ash and {{ashfr}}, discovered that a {{p|Hypno}} from the [[Pokémon Lover's Club]] was responsible for the string of disappearances.

In ''[[EP034|The Kangaskhan Kid]]'', Officer Jenny worked as a ranger in the [[Safari Land]] Pokémon Reservation Area. After Ash attempted to throw a {{i|Poké Ball}} at a "{{p|Chansey}}" near some bushes, Officer Jenny appeared from the bushes wearing a Chansey hat. Officer Jenny took Ash and his friends to her station in the reserve. After letting the group off with a warning, she discovered Team Rocket trying to steal some {{p|Kangaskhan}} in the reserve.

In ''[[EP054|The Case of the K-9 Caper!]]'', Ash and his friends came across Officer Jenny as she and the canine police unit tackled a thief, who was actually a fellow officer in disguise. The group joined Officer Jenny at the nearby training academy, where Ash and Pikachu competed and failed against Jenny and her {{TP|Officer Jenny|Growlithe}}. Team Rocket later arrived in their van and took control of all of the Growlithe using special megaphone that changed their voices to resemble their Trainers. They were able to subdue Officer Jenny using the Growlithe, but after remembering the times it had with Officer Jenny, her Growlithe turned on Team Rocket and freed the others, forcing the trio to flee.

In ''[[EP057|The Breeding Center Secret]]'', Officer Jenny took Ash, {{an|Brock}}, [[Todd]], and the Team Rocket trio into custody after they were captured by [[Butch]] and [[Cassidy]], who accused them of being burglars. {{an|Misty}} and Pikachu recovered Todd's confiscated camera from Cassidy and showed the photographic evidence of the duo's fake breeding center scheme. Officer Jenny then released Misty's friends and arrested Butch and Cassidy.

Several Officer Jennys from all across [[Kanto]] were present at the [[Indigo Plateau]] to help keep the peace during the [[Indigo Plateau Conference]].

======Orange Islands======
In ''[[EP086|Pikachu Re-Volts]]'', [[Mandarin Island North]]'s Officer Jenny noticed a bunch of Pokémon who disobeyed their Trainers. However, her {{p|Gastly}} was the only one who was unaffected by the problem caused by [[Butch]] and [[Cassidy]]'s {{p|Drowzee}}, as Gastly is a {{type|Ghost}} Pokémon.

[[Pinkan Island]] and its rare pink Pokémon, featured in ''[[EP088|In the Pink]]'', were shown to be protected by the Officer Jenny that lives on the distant outpost, alongside a group of volunteers and {{tc|Scientist}}s. She foiled Team Rocket's attempts to steal a pink {{p|Nidoking}} and later used a lasso to calm the rampaging Drill Pokémon down.

======Johto======
In ''[[EP123|Spinarak Attack]]'', the Officer Jennys who protect [[Catallia City]] use {{p|Spinarak}} after a criminal, [[The Black Arachnid]], was stopped by one such pair hundreds of years ago. Like her ancestor, the current Officer Jenny used her own Spinarak to foil Team Rocket's crime spree.

In ''[[EP229|An EGG-sighting Adventure!]]'', Officer Jenny arrived at a [[Pokémon Center]] after Ash's {{AP|Egg|Phanpy}} disappeared. She claimed to be good at solving cases but got the suspects wrong.

An Officer Jenny and her {{p|Pidgeot}} helped Ash rescue his Pikachu from Team Rocket in ''[[EP274|Hoenn Alone]]''. Pidgeot also flew Ash and Pikachu back on to their ship as it was bound for [[Littleroot Town]] in the [[Hoenn]] [[region]].

=====''[[Pokémon the Series: Ruby and Sapphire]]''=====
In ''[[AG006|A Poached Ego!]]'', Officer Jenny was hunting down a [[Pokémon poacher]] named [[Rico]], who was illegally capturing {{type|Poison}} Pokémon in the [[Petalburg Forest]]. In the end, Rico was arrested by Jenny after his cache of {{p|Ekans}} and {{p|Koffing}} were freed by {{TRT}}.

[[Rustboro City]]'s police force was on high alert following rumors of an alleged plan to infiltrate the [[Devon Corporation]]. Despite the increased security, however, a {{tc|Team Aqua Grunt}} managed to break into the company headquarters and steal a vile of [[fossil]] DNA in ''[[AG017|Stairway to Devon]]''. [[Max]] managed to recover the sample, but the thief fled the scene. The police chase continued in the [[AG018|following episode]], and the Team Aqua Grunt managed to escape Rustboro City entirely.

In ''[[AG065|Gulpin it Down]]'', Officer Jenny took care of a swarm of {{p|Gulpin}} that were eating all of the food in a town.

In ''[[AG119|The Ribbon Cup Caper]]'', Officer Jenny was seen on board the [[S.S. St. Flower]], a luxury cruise ship headed to [[Slateport City]] for the [[Hoenn]] [[Grand Festival]]. Ash and his friends helped her track down [[Brodie]] after he stole the [[Ribbon Cup]]. Brodie later disguised himself as another Officer Jenny, but Brock was able to recognize the true one.

=====''[[Pokémon the Series: Diamond and Pearl]]''=====
In ''[[DP002|Two Degrees of Separation!]]'', an Officer Jenny from [[Sandgem Town]] escorted {{Ash}} to [[Professor Rowan]]'s lab as he searched for {{AP|Pikachu}} and {{an|Dawn}}. The same Jenny reappeared in the [[DP003|next episode]], and she was pleased that Ash was now reunited with Pikachu.

In ''[[DP009|Setting the World on Its Buneary!]]'', an Officer Jenny from [[Jubilife City]] appeared, almost running over Pikachu, who could not see due to having his eyes covered by Ash's cap. Dawn initially presumed she was the same Jenny that the group encountered previously, before Brock explained how there are multiple Jennys, like with Nurse Joy. She then explained how a disguised Team Rocket had been stealing machine parts from a nearby factory, and later caught up to them, but was not able to arrest them before they ran away. This Officer Jenny is the sister of the Jenny from Sandgem Town.

In ''[[DP033|All Dressed Up With Somewhere To Go!]]'', an Officer Jenny was one of the judges of the [[Pokémon Dress-Up Contest]] along with [[Mr. Sukizo]] and [[Nurse Joy]].

In ''[[DP036|A Secret Sphere of Influence!]]'' an Officer Jenny from [[Eterna City]] was summoned to the [[Eterna Historical Museum]]. The Officer Jenny from [[Viridian City]] was also there too.

An Officer Jenny from [[Kanto]] appeared in ''[[DP115|Stealing the Conversation!]]'' with a {{p|Chatot}} as her partner. Apparently, she had come all the way to [[Sinnoh]] to capture [[Jessie]], [[James]], and {{MTR}}, and was fully aware of them having followed Ash ever since [[Viridian City]].

In ''[[DP135|Beating the Bustle and Hustle!]]'', Officer Jenny competed in a [[Sinnoh Pokémon Hustle|Pokémon Hustle]]. She was undercover and tracked down two criminals named [[Crimson]] and [[Azure]]. She was able to get through the Pokémon Hustle and chased after the duo. After Ash defeated them, Officer Jenny successfully arrested them.

=====''[[Pokémon the Series: Black & White]]''=====
======Unova======
[[File:Officer Jenny anime BW.png|thumb|250px|Officer Jenny in ''[[Pokémon the Series: Black & White]]'']]
In ''[[BW006|Dreams by the Yard Full!]]'', an Officer Jenny arrived in [[Striaton City]] when [[Dream Mist]] shrouded the city. At the [[Dreamyard]], she discovered that the Team Rocket trio were responsible for the Dream Mist and questioned their appearance in Unova despite being Kanto-based. After Team Rocket got away using {{TP|Jessie|Woobat}}'s {{m|Gust}}, Officer Jenny went after them. Another Officer Jenny chased after Team Rocket in ''[[BW010|A Rival Battle for Club Champ!]]'' after hearing about the incident in the Dreamyard. However, Officer Jenny was unable to catch them as they escaped with the help of [[Pierce]].

[[Christie]] and [[Doyle]] helped Officer Jenny as she investigated a missing Audino in ''[[BW035|Where Did You Go, Audino?]]''. Despite their efforts, [[Ash's Roggenrola]] was credited on helping out the most.

In ''[[BW045|Beheeyem, Duosion, and the Dream Thief!]]'', after Ash, {{an|Iris}}, and {{an|Cilan}} were trapped in a dream created by {{OBP|Leon|BW045}}'s {{p|Beheeyem}}, Officer Jenny helped the group to escape the dream. They had to acknowledge that they were in the dream but since Meowth was still asleep, they were unable to get out. However, after Meowth {{m|Fury Swipes|fury swiped}} Leon, the group were able to escape the dream and Leon was then arrested by Officer Jenny.

An Officer Jenny was prepared to lay charges against a {{TP|Iris|Dragonite}} after it allegedly destroyed [[Undella Town]]'s power plant in ''[[BW089|Iris and the Rogue Dragonite!]]''. {{an|Iris}} struck a [[friendship]] with Dragonite and later protected it from Officer Jenny and her posse of {{pkmn|Trainer}}s enlisted to stop it. Jenny eventually decided to not pursue Dragonite anymore after Ash and {{an|Cilan}} revealed that Dragonite was actually protecting a group of {{p|Pidove}} when it damaged the power plant.

======Decolore Islands======
In ''[[BW129|The Pirates of Decolore!]]'', Ash and his friends helped Officer Jenny capture the notorious Pokémon pirates of the [[Decolore Islands]], who were responsible for thefts throughout the archipelago. After Ash defeated the group's {{p|Croconaw}} and {{p|Azumarill}} in a [[Double Battle]], the {{type|Water}}s agree to leave their lives of crime behind. Later, after rescuing a trio of {{p|Darumaka}} from a raft, Officer Jenny recruited them to the Decolore Coast Guard rescue squad.

=====''[[Pokémon the Series: XY]]''=====
[[File:Officer Jenny anime XY.png|thumb|left|250px|Officer Jenny in ''[[Pokémon the Series: XY]]'']]
In ''[[XY002|Lumiose City Pursuit!]]'', Officer Jenny and another police officer evacuated the [[Lumiose City]] area when [[Professor Sycamore]]'s {{p|Garchomp}} was on a rampage.

In ''[[XY007|Giving Chase at the Rhyhorn Race!]]'', Officer Jenny went up to Ash, {{an|Clemont}}, {{an|Bonnie}} and {{an|Serena}} after they saw some Rhyhorn racers running to where they were. Officer Jenny then took them to [[Odyssey Village]] after explaining that Rhyhorn racing took place there.

In ''[[XY012|To Catch a Pokémon Smuggler!]]'', she and {{p|Manectric}} chased after a smuggler named [[Dolan]] as he was stealing a bunch of {{p|Scatterbug}} and {{p|Spewpa}}. One of the Scatterbug fell out of Dolan's car and when Ash took it to a Pokémon Center, she roped Ash as she thought he was working for Dolan until {{an|Clemont}} cleared the whole situation by saying that the group wanted to help her in stopping Dolan. Officer Jenny, Ash, and his friends work together to track the smuggler. As Ash went to an abandoned laboratory and battled Dolan, Officer Jenny appeared and arrested the smuggler. The group releases all of the Scatterbug and Spewpa from Dolan's laboratory.

[[File:Madame X.png|thumb|250px|As Madame X]]
In ''[[XY019|A Conspiracy to Conquer!]]'', Officer Jenny went to investigate at a radio observatory after getting a report that strange things were going on there. In the observatory, she ran into a {{an|Malamar}}, who hypnotized her into becoming its accomplice, '''Madame X''' (Japanese: '''マダムＸ''' ''Madame X''). Later, she went to a dark cave where Team Rocket were watching a video of {{AP|Pikachu}} using his moves. Malamar hypnotized the trio except for Meowth, and Madame X went looking for Ash and his friends, with Team Rocket in tow. She found them by a tree, and Malamar took Pikachu with them to the radio observatory. Malamar hypnotizes Pikachu, who was soon under Madame X's control. When Ash and Meowth arrived, Ash's friends became hypnotized by Malamar and the duo encounter Madame X in the observation chamber. She has Pikachu use {{m|Thunderbolt}} on his own Trainer, but Ash withheld himself and got through to Pikachu. The Automatic Pikachu Retrieving Device that Clemont built earlier entered the observatory and crashes at Malamar. Officer Jenny went back to normal, and she and the gang went after Malamar, who led them to a room containing the system of great significance. Since everyone saw what Malamar was doing, it destroyed the mind-control device it was building before fleeing.

The Officer Jenny involved with the Malamar reappeared in ''[[XY054|Facing the Grand Design!]]'', where she was investigating Malamar's latest scheme at [[Grace Tower]]. She again met up with Ash, his friends and Team Rocket, and asked both sides to call it a truce. When Malamar and its two fellow ones activated the crystals to distort the [[Pokémon world]], Officer Jenny was about to conduct a plan to stop the crystals, but two of the evil Malamar caught her and the group. Officer Jenny was held by Malamar's {{m|Psychic}}, but was freed later on with the help of the good Malamar and {{p|Inkay}} from the forest. She sent out her {{TP|Officer Jenny|Manectric}} to prevent the crystals from working any further. After stopping the three evil Malamar's plan for the second time, she attempted to arrest them, but the antagonistic Malamar escaped by going into the merged crystals.

In ''[[XY066|Confronting the Darkness]]'', Officer Jenny was investigating a [[Dark Clembot|Clembot]] wreaking havoc in the Lumiose City warehouses. She mistook Clemont's [[Clembot]] as the culprit, to the point that she had to make an arrest in the [[Lumiose Gym]]. Later, when Clemont and [[Belmondo]] had their {{pkmn|battle}}, she attempted to arrest Belmondo, but Clemont wanted to finish the match. Using {{TP|Clemont|Luxray}}, Clemont was able to defeat Belmondo, and Belmondo was taken into custody, along with [[Dark Clembot]].

Officer Jenny appeared in ''[[XY119|A Full-Strength Battle Surprise!]]'' inspecting a forest area with her Manectric and a group of people. They were, however, forced to retreat due to an attack by large vines mutated by [[Team Flare]].

=====''[[Pokémon the Series: Sun & Moon]]''=====
[[File:Officer Jenny SM010.png|thumb|left|250px|Officer Jenny in ''[[Pokémon the Series: Sun & Moon]]'']]
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Officer Jenny received another redesign for ''Pokémon the Series: Sun & Moon''. Unlike other regions, which usually had an Officer Jenny in each town and city, Alola only has four in total, with each one responsible for safeguarding a specific island.

The [[Melemele Island]] Jenny debuted in ''[[SM009|To Top a Totem!]]'', where she informed people of a road closure due to fallen timber blocking the way, caused by {{rf|Alolan}} {{p|Rattata}} and {{p|Raticate}}. Later, she prepared to ambush the pests in a grocery store alongside Ash, {{an|Professor Kukui}}, [[Hala]], the {{DL|Totem Pokémon|Totem Gumshoos}}, and its {{DL|Totem Pokémon|Ally Yungoos}}. After they chased away the Rattata and Raticate, Jenny asked an Ally Gumshoos to join her team, and it accepted.

In ''[[SM010|Trial and Tribulation!]]'', the Melemele Jenny and Gumshoos visited Ash to give him a certificate as recognition of his work. She then drove Ash to [[Iki Town]] for his [[Island challenge|grand trial]] against Hala before returning to her police duties.

The Officer Jenny from [[Akala Island]] debuted in ''[[SM070|The Young Flame Strikes Back!]]''; she owns a {{p|Granbull}}. She showed up at the [[Paniola Ranch‎‎]] just in time to arrest [[Viren]] and [[Viren's henchmen|his henchmen]] when they threatened to tear down {{an|Kiawe}}’s family ranch.

[[Ula'ula Island]]'s Officer Jenny and her partner {{p|Oricorio}} debuted in ''[[SM074|Tough Guy Trials!]]''. She greeted [[Nanu]], who was preparing to take a nap.

=====''[[Pokémon Journeys: The Series]]''=====
The Officer Jenny of Vermilion City reappeared in ''[[JN003|Ivysaur's Mysterious Tower!]]'', where she met Ash and [[Goh]] while they were investigating the outbreak of {{p|Ivysaur}}. She was holding traffic for a group of Ivysaur to cross the road before warning them that Team Rocket was seen in the area.

====Character====
Officer Jenny is not a single entity. Rather, there are many Jennys working as police officers across the various regions of the [[Pokémon world]].

Generally, Officer Jennys are brave and determined, but can be ineffective in their police duties. They fight against the likes of [[Team Rocket]], [[Team Magma]], [[Team Aqua]], and [[Team Galactic]] – among other miscellaneous criminals. Although there are many exceptions, Officer Jenny will generally have {{TP|Officer Jenny|Growlithe}} to use as a police dog.

[[File:Jenny Blue.png|thumb|220px|left|Officer Jenny before being digitally recolored in ''[[EP267|Love, Pokémon Style]]'']]
Although Jennys appear to be identical, there is some minor divergence among them, as evidenced by {{an|Brock}}. Brock is able to recognize different Jennys on numerous occasions; he appears to be the only character who can tell the Officer Jennys apart. The town/region where a certain Jenny comes from can be discerned by the symbol on their hats, which differs depending on location. There seem to be two {{ci|Viridian}} Jennys, as during the [[Indigo League]], two Jennys with the same hat symbol (previously stated to belong to the Viridian City Jenny) were seen side-by-side. The Jennys of the Orange Archipelago are outfitted with uniforms of a distinctly lighter blue color, and the Officer Jenny of [[LaRousse City]] is seen wearing a different uniform to all her counterparts, it being a far more elaborate version than the others (although it does retain the standard coloring and basic design scheme). The [[Unova]] region is home to Officer Jennys that look distinctly different than those of other regions. The Unova Officer Jennys all have a tan-colored uniform, unlike the other Jennys that wore blue. Additionally, the Jennys of Unova don a much shorter hairstyle.

When the series became digitally animated in ''[[EP261|Here's Lookin' at You, Elekid]]'', starting with ''[[EP267|Love, Pokémon Style]]'' Jenny's hair was colored in more of a greenish blue to match her [[Ken Sugimori|Sugimori]] artwork. Before this, her hair appeared to be more blue in color.

There is a very distinct parallel between the families of Officer Jenny, Nurse Joy, [[Don George]], and [[Porter]]. This may indicate some sort of relation or deeper connection. However, the only thing known about the four families is that they are apparently on good terms.

====Pokémon====
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=====Recurring=====
The following are Pokémon that recurrently appear with Officer Jenny in the anime.
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Growlithe
|main=yes
|type1=Fire
|img=Officer Jenny Growlithe.png
|epnum=EP059
|epname=The Case of the K-9 Caper
|vajp=Katsuyuki Konishi
|vajp2=Mitsuru Ogata
|vajp3=Kōichi Sakaguchi
|vaen=Maddie Blaustein
|vaennote=[[EP054]]-[[AG119]]
|vaen2=Katsuyuki Konishi
|vaen2note=[[DP033]]
|vaen3=Tom Wayland
|vaen3note=[[DP072]]-present
|desc=Growlithe is Office Jenny's main battling Pokémon from [[Kanto]], [[Johto]], [[Hoenn]], and [[Sinnoh]].}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Arcanine
|type1=Fire
|img=Officer Jenny Arcanine.png
|epnum=DP020
|epname=Mutiny in the Bounty
|desc={{p|Arcanine}} was used by the Officer Jenny that helped {{Ash}} and {{ashfr}} track down [[J|Pokémon Hunter J]].

Two more Arcanine were seen in ''[[DP059|Luxray Vision!]]'' under the ownership of an Officer Jenny.

Arcanine's only known move is {{m|Flamethrower}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Stunky
|type1=Poison
|type2=Dark
|img=Officer Jenny Stunky.png
|epnum=DP036
|epname=A Secret Sphere of Influence!
|desc={{p|Stunky}} first appeared in ''[[DP036|A Secret Sphere of Influence!]]'' under the ownership of the Officer Jenny in [[Eterna City]]. She uses its poison attacks to stop criminals and suspects.

Stunky was seen again guarding the [[Adamant Orb]] when it was being transported to [[Celestic Town]] in ''[[DP096|Losing Its Lustrous!]]''.

None of Stunky's moves are known, and its Ability is {{a|Stench}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Swanna
|type1=Water
|type2=Flying
|img=Officer Jenny Swanna.png
|epnum=BW021
|epname=The Lost World of Gothitelle!
|desc=When a strange fog started to surround the [[Skyarrow Bridge]], the Officer Jenny of the area attempted to use her {{p|Swanna}} to clear it. However, this didn't work and both Jenny and Swanna quickly left to deal with an emergency.

Several Swanna were owned by another Officer Jenny in ''[[BW081|Crisis at Ferroseed Research!]]'' and were used to help control the moss growth happening around the [[Ferroseed Research Institute]] by using {{type|Ice}} moves.

Swanna's known moves are {{m|Defog}}, {{m|Ice Beam}}, and {{m|Blizzard}}{{tt|*|Swanna cannot learn Blizzard in the games.}}.}}
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Herdier
|type1=Normal
|img=Officer Jenny Herdier.png
|epnum=BW022
|epname=A Venipede Stampede!
|desc=Officer Jenny's Herdier first appeared in [[Castelia City]], where they tried to help curb the tide of invading {{p|Venipede}}.

One later appeared in ''[[BW052|Ash Versus the Champion!]]''.

Herdier's only known move is {{m|Shadow Ball}}.}}
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Manectric
|main=yes
|type1=Electric
|img=Officer Jenny Manectric.png
|epnum=XY008
|epname=Grooming Furfrou!
|vajp=Kensuke Satō
|vaen=Jake Paque
|desc=Manectric is Officer Jenny's main battling Pokémon from [[Kalos]].}}
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Gumshoos
|main=yes
|type1=Normal
|img=Officer Jenny Gumshoos.png
|epnum=SM009
|epname=To Top a Totem!
|vajp=Kaito Ishikawa
|vaen=Billy Bob Thompson
|desc=An Officer Jenny on Melemele Island teamed up with a Gumshoos from [[Verdant Cavern]].}}

=====Other=====
During the course of the anime, various individual Officer Jennys have had the following Pokémon:

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Squirtle (×5)
|nick=Squirtle Squad
|main=yes
|type1=Water
|img=Squirtle Squad.png
|epnum=EP012
|epname=Here Comes the Squirtle Squad
|vajp=Shin'ichirō Miki
|vajp2=Ikue Ohtani
|vajp3=Unshō Ishizuka
|vaen=Eric Stuart
|desc=The Squirtle Squad was a gang of abandoned trouble-making {{p|Squirtle}} until they were adopted by Officer Jenny, who uses them to fight fires. Their leader is [[Ash's Squirtle]].}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Gastly
|type1=Ghost
|type2=Poison
|img=Officer Jenny Gastly.png
|epnum=EP086
|epname=Pikachu Re-Volts
|vaen=Ted Lewis{{!}}Ed Paul
|desc=This {{p|Gastly}} was used by the Jenny on [[Mandarin Island North]]. It was able to use its ghost moves to find [[Butch]], [[Cassidy]] and their {{p|Drowzee}}, who had brainwashed all of the other Pokémon on the island, being immune to the brainwash itself. It has an unusually high Special Defense, as it was later used to protect Ash from the combined attacks of the controlled Pokémon. Gastly is kept [[Walking Pokémon|outside its Poké Ball]].

Gastly's only known move is {{m|Psywave}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Spinarak
|type1=Bug
|type2=Poison
|img=Officer Jenny Spinarak.png
|epnum=EP123
|epname=Spinarak Attack
|desc=A {{p|Spinarak}} is used by the Jenny in [[Catallia City]] as a living testament to the Spinarak that had stopped [[The Black Arachnid]].

It reappeared in {{an|Misty}}'s flashback in the Japanese version of ''[[EP273|Gotta Catch Ya Later!]]''.

Spinarak's known moves are {{m|String Shot}} and {{m|Spider Web}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Wobbuffet
|type1=Psychic
|img=Officer Jenny Wobbuffet.png
|epnum=EP173
|epname=Wobbu-Palooza!
|vajp=
|vaen=Kayzie Rogers
|desc=The Officer Jenny in [[Wobbuffet Village]] uses a {{p|Wobbuffet}} to help her protect the order in the village.

None of Wobbuffet's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Jumpluff
|type1=Grass
|type2=Flying
|img=Officer Jenny Jumpluff.png
|epnum=EP229
|epname=An EGG-sighting Adventure!
|desc=This {{p|Jumpluff}} is used by a Jenny somewhere en route from [[Mahogany Town]] to [[Blackthorn City]]. It can sprinkle its spores in order to find [[footprint]]s.

None of Jumpluff's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Pidgeot
|type1=Normal
|type2=Flying
|img=Officer Jenny Pidgeot.png
|epnum=EP274
|epname=Hoenn Alone!
|desc=Officer Jenny uses a {{p|Pidgeot}} in a port town between [[Kanto]] and [[Hoenn]]. It is used to search for criminals from the air.

None of Pidgeot's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Parasect
|type1=Bug
|type2=Grass
|img=Officer Jenny Parasect.png
|epnum=AG065
|epname=Gulpin it Down
|desc=The Officer Jenny in a town near [[Petalburg City]] used this {{p|Parasect}}, in addition to her {{p|Tangela}} and {{p|Meganium}}, to try to stop the mass army of {{p|Gulpin}} that were rioting around the town.

Parasect's only known move is {{m|Stun Spore}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Tangela
|type1=Grass
|img=Officer Jenny Tangela.png
|epnum=AG065
|epname=Gulpin it Down
|desc=The Officer Jenny in a town near [[Petalburg City]] used a {{p|Tangela}}, in addition to her {{p|Parasect}} and {{p|Meganium}}, to try to stop the mass army of {{p|Gulpin}} that were rioting around the town.

Tangela's only known move is {{m|Vine Whip}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Meganium
|type1=Grass
|img=Officer Jenny Meganium.png
|epnum=AG065
|epname=Gulpin it Down
|desc=The Officer Jenny in a town near [[Petalburg City]] used her {{p|Meganium}}, in addition to her {{p|Parasect}} and {{p|Tangela}}, to try to stop the mass army of {{p|Gulpin}} that were rioting around the town.

Meganium's only known move is {{m|Razor Leaf}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Marble
|pkmn=Luxray
|stage1=Luxio
|type1=Electric
|img=Marble Luxray.png
|epnum=DP059
|epname=Luxray Vision!
|vajp=Katsuyuki Konishi
|vaen=Sarah Natochenny
|desc={{OBP|Marble|DP059}}'s Luxray was having serious problems when Marble met the gang. It had recently evolved from {{p|Luxio}} and was unable to use {{type|Electric}} moves, making it a liability to Officer Jenny. As a result, Luxray developed a serious attitude problem, which not only caused it to constantly disobey Marble, but also caused it to fight other Electric-type Pokémon, like it did with {{AP|Pikachu}}.

After Team Rocket stole the [[Old Charm]] from under Marble's nose, Luxray and Pikachu were trapped below the mansion it was guarding in a maze filled with traps. After being saved by Pikachu from a trap, Luxray's attitude softened and it became friends with Pikachu. Luxray's enhanced eyesight allowed it so see other booby traps and it was able to save Pikachu from one later. After reestablishing its bond with Marble and regaining its Electric-type moves, it helped defeat Team Rocket and recover the Old Charm.

Luxray's known moves are {{m|Charge Beam}}, {{m|Iron Tail}}, and {{m|Thunder Fang}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|nick=Buddy
|pkmn=Chatot
|type1=Normal
|type2=Flying
|img=Officer Jenny Buddy.png
|epnum=DP115
|epname=Stealing the Conversation!
|desc='''Buddy''' the {{p|Chatot}} is used by the Officer Jenny in a town near [[Snowpoint City]]. It had been the officer's partner since a stake out in which Buddy caught a criminal. It was not given a nickname in the Japanese version.

Buddy's known moves are {{m|Peck}}, {{m|Feather Dance}} and {{m|Steel Wing}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Duosion
|type1=Psychic
|img=Officer Jenny Duosion.png
|epnum=BW045
|epname=Beheeyem, Duosion, and the Dream Thief!
|vajp=Megumi Hayashibara
|vaen=Erica Schroeder
|desc=Officer Jenny used {{p|Duosion}} to help locate a so-called "[[Leon (BW045)|Dream Thief]]".

Duosion's known moves are {{m|Psywave}}, {{m|Psyshock}}, {{m|Flash Cannon}} and {{m|Protect}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Ferrothorn
|type1=Grass
|type2=Steel
|img=Officer Jenny Ferrothorn.png
|epnum=BW089
|epname=Iris and the Rogue Dragonite!
|vajp=
|vaen=
|desc=An Officer Jenny in [[Undella Town]] used {{p|Ferrothorn}} in an attempt to catch a [[Iris's Dragonite|Dragonite]].

Ferrothorn's only known move is {{m|Flash Cannon}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Croconaw
|type1=Water
|img=Officer Jenny Croconaw.png
|epnum=BW129
|epname=The Pirates of Decolore!
|vajp=Unshō Ishizuka
|vaen=Carter Cathcart
|desc=During their travels through the [[Decolore Islands]], {{Ash}} and {{ashfr}} encountered a group of Water-type Pokémon who were stealing food from their ferry, with {{p|Croconaw}} as their leader. All four Pokémon in the so-called Pirate gang had been abandoned by their Trainers and were distrustful of humans. Ash battled Croconaw and {{p|Azumarill}} with {{AP|Snivy}} and {{AP|Pignite}} and won, forcing the pirates to hand over what they had stolen. Croconaw then led its friends to save a group of {{p|Darumaka}} that were being swept out to sea, and found it enjoyed rescuing others. As a result, the pirates joined up with Officer Jenny as a Water Rescue Squad.

Croconaw's known moves are {{m|Water Gun}}, {{m|Hydro Pump}}, {{m|Hidden Power}} and {{m|Iron Tail}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|stage1=Marill
|pkmn=Azumarill
|type1=Water
|img=Officer Jenny Azumarill.png
|epnum=BW129
|epname=The Pirates of Decolore!
|vajp=
|vaen=Kayzie Rogers
|desc={{p|Azumarill}} was a powerful and eager member of Croconaw's pirate gang, who had no problems with stealing food from humans. It battled Snivy and Pignite alongside Croconaw but was defeated. However, it did assist in the rescue of the Darumaka before happily joining Officer Jenny.

Azumarill's known moves are {{m|Water Gun}}, {{m|Bubble Beam}}, {{m|Slam}} and {{m|Hydro Pump}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|stage1=Remoraid
|pkmn=Octillery
|type1=Water
|img=Officer Jenny Octillery.png
|epnum=BW129
|epname=The Pirates of Decolore!
|vajp=
|vaen=
|desc={{p|Octillery}} was another powerful member of Croconaw's pirate gang, and would often battle any Pokémon it came across. Like the other Pokémon in the gang, Octillery was abandoned by its Trainer. However, it had a happy ending and also joined Officer Jenny's new squad.

Octillery's known moves are {{m|Constrict}}, {{m|Aurora Beam}} and {{m|Water Gun}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Ducklett
|type1=Water
|type2=Flying
|img=Officer Jenny Ducklett.png
|epnum=BW129
|epname=The Pirates of Decolore!
|vajp=
|vaen=
|desc={{p|Ducklett}}, another abandoned Water-type Pokémon, was the fourth member of Croconaw's gang and was responsible for keeping the raft they traveled on from drifting away. Ducklett later joined Officer Jenny's squad after participating in the Darumaka rescue.

Ducklett's only known move is {{m|Water Gun}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Granbull
|type1=Fairy
|img=Officer Jenny Granbull.png
|epnum=SM070
|epname=The Young Flame Strikes Back!
|desc=This {{p|Granbull}} is used by the Jenny on [[Akala Island]]. It stopped [[Viren]] and [[Viren's henchmen|his henchmen]] from escaping after Officer Jenny arrived to arrest them for attempting to destroy [[Paniola Ranch]].

None of Granbull's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Oricorio
|type1=Fire
|type2=Flying
|img=Officer Jenny Oricorio.png
|vajp=Chika Fujimura
|vaen=Erica Schroeder
|epnum=SM074
|epname=Tough Guy Trials!
|desc=This {{DL|List of Pokémon with form differences|Oricorio|Baile Style}} {{p|Oricorio}} is used by the Jenny on [[Ula'ula Island]].

None of Oricorio's moves are known.}}

=====Mentioned=====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Blastoise
|type1=Water
|img=Officer Jenny Blastoise.png
|epnum=AG125
|epname=Like a Meowth to a Flame
|desc=One of the Officer Jennys guarding the [[Ever Grande Conference]] mentioned that she owned a {{p|Blastoise}}, which she attempted to use to stop {{TRT}} who had stolen the flame of {{p|Moltres}}. However, [[Nurse Joy]] stopped her since Blastoise could accidentally put out the fire.

None of Blastoise's moves are known.}}

=====Temporary=====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Malamar
|type1=Dark
|type2=Psychic
|img=Officer Jenny Malamar.png
|epnum=XY019
|epname=A Conspiracy to Conquer!
|vajp=Kensuke Satō
|vaen=Marc Thompson
|desc={{main|Malamar (anime)}}

During their journey through Kalos, {{ashfr|the gang}} encountered a villain named Madame X who used her {{p|Malamar}} to hypnotize them. During their attempts to free themselves, they found that Madame X was actually Officer Jenny and it was actually Malamar who was the true villain of the story, using its powers to control others. Eventually Ash and Team Rocket combined their Pokémon's attacks and managed to defeat the evil Pokémon, which nevertheless managed to escape.

Malamar's known moves at the time were {{m|Hypnosis}} and {{m|Psychic}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Pumpkaboo
|gender=female
|type1=Ghost
|type2=Grass
|img=Officer Jenny Inkay Pumpkaboo.png
|epnum=XY019
|epname=A Conspiracy to Conquer!
|vajp=Megumi Satou
|vaen=Haven Paschall
|desc={{main|Jessie's Pumpkaboo}}

During her time as Madame X, Officer Jenny took control of Pumpkaboo.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Inkay
|gender=male
|type1=Dark
|type2=Psychic
|img=Officer Jenny Inkay Pumpkaboo.png
|epnum=XY019
|epname=A Conspiracy to Conquer!
|vajp=Kenta Miyake
|vaen=Mike Liscio
|desc={{main|James's Inkay}}

During her time as Madame X, Officer Jenny took control of Inkay.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Wobbuffet
|gender=male
|type1=Psychic
|img=Officer Jenny Wobbuffet XY019.png
|epnum=XY019
|epname=A Conspiracy to Conquer!
|vajp=Yūji Ueda
|vaen=Kayzie Rogers
|desc={{main|Jessie's Wobbuffet}}

During her time as Madame X, Officer Jenny took control of Wobbuffet.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Pikachu
|gender=male
|type1=Electric
|img=Officer Jenny Pikachu.png
|epnum=XY019
|epname=A Conspiracy to Conquer!
|vajp=Ikue Ohtani
|vaen=Ikue Ohtani
|desc={{main|Ash's Pikachu}}

During her time as Madame X, Officer Jenny took control of Pikachu with Malamar's help and forced him to attack {{Ash}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Dedenne
|gender=male
|type1=Electric
|type2=Fairy
|img=Officer Jenny Dedenne.png
|epnum=XY019
|epname=A Conspiracy to Conquer!
|vajp=Megumi Satou
|vaen=Megumi Satou
|desc={{main|Clemont's Dedenne}}

During her time as Madame X, Officer Jenny took control of Dedenne.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Beedrill
|type1=Bug
|type2=Poison
|img=Officer Jenny Pangoro Beedrill Exploud Noivern.png
|epnum=XY019
|epname=A Conspiracy to Conquer!
|desc=During her time as Madame X, Officer Jenny took control of a {{p|Beedrill}}. When {{ashfr|the gang}} arrived and Malamar possessed them except for Ash, she opened the doors to reveal it and it went after Ash and {{MTR}}.

None of Beedrill's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Noivern
|type1=Flying
|type2=Dragon
|img=Officer Jenny Pangoro Beedrill Exploud Noivern.png
|epnum=XY019
|epname=A Conspiracy to Conquer!
|desc=During her time as Madame X, Officer Jenny took control of a {{p|Noivern}}. When {{ashfr|the gang}} arrived and Malamar possessed them except for Ash, she opened the doors to reveal it and it went after Ash and {{MTR}}.

None of Noivern's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Scolipede
|type1=Bug
|type2=Poison
|img=Officer Jenny Exploud Noivern Scolipede.png
|epnum=XY019
|epname=A Conspiracy to Conquer!
|desc=During her time as Madame X, Officer Jenny took control of a {{p|Scolipede}}. When {{ashfr|the gang}} arrived and Malamar possessed them except for Ash, she opened the doors to reveal it and it went after Ash and {{MTR}}.

None of Scolipede's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Exploud
|type1=Normal
|img=Officer Jenny Pangoro Beedrill Exploud Noivern.png
|epnum=XY019
|epname=A Conspiracy to Conquer!
|desc=During her time as Madame X, Officer Jenny took control of an {{p|Exploud}}. When {{ashfr|the gang}} arrived and Malamar possessed them except for Ash, she opened the doors to reveal it and it went after Ash and {{MTR}}.

None of Exploud's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Pangoro
|type1=Fighting
|type2=Dark
|img=Officer Jenny Pangoro Beedrill Exploud Noivern.png
|epnum=XY019
|epname=A Conspiracy to Conquer!
|desc=During her time as Madame X, Officer Jenny took control of a {{p|Pangoro}}. When {{ashfr|the gang}} arrived and Malamar possessed them except for Ash, she opened the doors to reveal it and it went after Ash and {{MTR}}.

None of Pangoro's moves are known.}}

====Voice actors====
{{vatable|color={{Skill color}}|bordercolor={{ground color dark}}
|ja=西村ちなみ ''[[Chinami Nishimura]]'' ([[EP002]]-[[DP166]], [[BWS01]]) たかはし智秋 ''[[Chiaki Takahashi]]'' ([[BW006]]-[[BW138]]) 石松千恵美 ''[[Chiemi Ishimatsu]]'' ([[XY002]]-[[XY135]]) 瀬戸麻沙美 ''[[Asami Seto]]'' ([[SM009]]-[[SM128]]) 清水理沙 ''[[Risa Shimizu]]'' ([[JN003]]-present)
|en=[[Lee Quick]] ([[EP002]]-[[AG065]], [[M01]]-[[M07]], [[Pokémon Chronicles]]) [[Jamie Davyous Owens]] ([[AG119]]-[[AG142]]) [[Kayzie Rogers]] ([[The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon|MoMP]]) [[List of English voice actors|Maya Rosewood]] ([[AG155]]) [[Emily Williams]] ([[AG188]]-[[DP166]]) [[Lipica Shah]] ([[BW112]]-[[BW138]]) [[Saskia Maarleveld]] ([[XY002]]-[[XY135]]) [[Samantha Moon]] ([[SM009]]-[[SM039]]) [[Martha Harms]] ([[SM070]]-present) [[Emily Jenness]] ([[BW006]]-[[BW101]], [[M22]])
|ar=فدوى سليمان ''Fadwa Suleiman''
|ca=Sílvia Cabrera
|cs=Kateřina Lojdová ([[EP002]]-[[EP195]]) Jana Páleníčková ([[DP002]]-present)
|da=Ann Hjort Simone Drechsler
|nl=Edna Kalb
|fil=Candice Arellano
|fi=Tiina Räsänen ([[EP002]], [[EP007]]) Jenni Sivonen ([[EP012]], [[EP016]], [[EP027]]-[[EP036]], [[EP046]]-[[EP062]], [[EP074]]-[[EP173]], [[M01]]) Minna Tasanto ([[EP020]], [[EP045]]) Elise Langenoja ([[EP067]], [[EP267]]-[[AG142]], [[DP002]]-[[DP166]], [[The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon|MoMP]]) Unknown voice actress ([[AG155]], [[DP072]], [[DP104]]) Henna Haverinen ([[AG189]]-[[AG190]], [[BW006]]-[[BW022]]) Ella Pyhältö ([[M13]]) Marjut Heikkinen ([[BW035]]-[[BW052]]) Saara Lehtonen ([[BW078]], [[SM070]]-present) Amy Burgess ([[BW089]], [[BW097]], [[XY135]], [[XY139]]) Susa Saukko ([[BW057]], [[BW101]]-[[BW112]], [[XY119]], [[XY132]]) Katja Sirkiä ([[BW117]]-[[XY111]], [[SM009]]-[[SM039]])
|fr_ca=Camille Cyr-Desmarais
|fr_eu=Guylaine Gibert
|de=Stefanie von Lerchenfeld Beate Pfeiffer Solveig Duda Nina Kapust
|he=נטע רווה ''Netta Ravé'' עדי בר לב ''Adi Bar Lev'' ([[XY002]]-present)
|hu=Árkosi Kati
|is=Linda Gunnarsdóttir ([[M03]])
|it=Marcella Silvestri Monica Bonetto Sonia Mazza Elisabetta Spinelli Renata Bertolas Katia Sorrentino
|ko=이선주 ''Lee Seon-Ju'' ([[original series]], all {{pkmn|movie}}s) 김서영 ''Kim Seo-Yeong'' (''[[Pokémon the Series: Ruby and Sapphire]]'')
|no=Katrine Blomstrand ([[EP002]]–[[EP102]]) Siv Klynderud
|pl=Małgorzata Maślanka-Krajewska ([[EP002]]-[[EP195]], [[M01]]) Katarzyna Łukaszyńska ([[EP216]]-[[AG018]]) Katarzyna Pysiak-Owczarz ([[DP002]]-[[DP045]], [[DP112]]-[[BW138]], [[M13]], [[EP012]]{{tt|*|Redub - one scene}}, [[EP034]]{{tt|*|Redub}}) Katarzyna Łaska ([[DP060]]) Joanna Domańska ([[DP064]]-[[DP104]]) Brygida Turowska ([[XY002]]-present)
|pt_br=Raquel Marinho (seasons 1-7 & 14-16) Sandra Mara Azevedo ([[EP062]]) Gilmara Sanches (seasons 8-13) Luciana Baroli and Elisa Villon ([[DP036]]) Priscila Franco (Season 17-present) Mariana Torres ([[XY111]]-present)
|pt_eu=Teresa Madruga ([[EP002]]-[[EP034]]) Sandra de Castro ([[EP045]]-[[EP129]]) Dora Cruz ([[EP133]]-[[EP195]]) Carla ([[EP216]]-[[AG065]]) Isabel Ribas ([[AG119]]-[[AG155]]) Unknown voice actress ([[AG189]]-[[AG190]]) Rita Fernandes ([[DP002]]-[[DP045]]) Zélia Santos ([[DP059]]-[[DP166]]) Ângela Marques ([[BW006]]-present)
|es_la=Ana María Grey ([[EP002]]-[[EP012]]) Mayra Arellano ([[EP016]]-[[AG018]], [[DP158]]-[[BW138]]) Erica Edwards ([[AG065]], [[The Legend of Thunder!|TLoT]], [[HS08]]) Cristina Hernández ([[AG119]]-[[DP104]]) Betzabe Jara ([[DP112]]-[[DP157]]) Claudia Contreras ([[XY002]]-present, [[EP007]]{{tt|*|redub}})
|es_eu=Valle Acebrón ([[EP002]]-[[EP236]]) Isacha Mengíbar ([[EP267]]-[[DP166]]) Beatriz Berciano ([[BW006]]-[[BW138]]) Silvia Sarmentera ([[XY002]]-[[XY135]]) Unknown voice actress ([[SM009]]-present)
|tr=Mehpare Özlük
|vi=Võ Huyền Chi ([[BW006]]-[[BWS01]], [[SM009]]-[[SM010]]) Nguyễn Thụy Thùy Tiên ([[S17]]-[[S18]]) Nguyễn Kim Anh ([[S01]], [[S19]]) Thu Huyền ([[M13]]) Phan Hoài Thương ([[M22]])}}

====Artwork====
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|-
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|-
| Official artwork from the {{color2|000|original series}}
| Official artwork from ''{{color2|000|Pokémon the Series: Ruby and Sapphire}}''
| Official artwork from ''{{color2|000|Pokémon the Series: Black & White}}''
| Official artwork from ''{{color2|000|Pokémon the Series: XY}}''
|}

===In ''[[M21|The Power of Us]]''===
{{incomplete|section|2=More specific details on role}}
An Officer Jenny appeared in ''[[M21|The Power of Us]]'', where she was working in [[Fula City]] with {{TP|Officer Jenny|Growlithe}} as her partner.

====Pokémon====
{{TrainerPoké
|main=yes
|trainer=Officer Jenny
|pkmn=Growlithe
|gender=
|type1=Fire
|img=058Growlithe.png
|epnum=M21
|epname=The Power of Us
|desc=The Officer Jenny of [[Fula City]] has a {{p|Growlithe}} helping her.}}

====Voice actors====
{{vatable|color={{Skill color}}|bordercolor={{ground color dark}}
|ja=瀬戸麻沙美 ''[[Asami Seto]]''
|en=[[Emily Jenness]]
|fi=Jenni Sivonen}}

==In the games==
In {{game|Yellow}}, Officer Jenny will give out a {{p|Squirtle}} in [[Vermilion City]], as a reference to Ash's Squirtle in the anime. Another Officer Jenny also replaces the {{tc|Policeman|generic male officer}} in [[Cerulean City]].

The Officer Jenny with the Squirtle appears in a slightly expanded role in [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]]. After defeating [[Misty]], a Squirtle appears and harasses the Officer, forcing her to leave her post in front of the burgled house in Cerulean. The player later finds the Officer and Squirtle in Vermilion, where Officer Jenny will give the player the Squirtle to look after if they have caught 60 individual Pokémon. Another Officer Jenny near [[Saffron City]]'s [[Saffron Gym|Gym]] will give them a set of [[clothing|police clothing]] after they defeat [[Team Rocket]] in [[Silph Co.]].

===Pokémon===
====Gives away====
{|
|-
!{{game|Yellow}}
![[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]]
|- style="vertical-align:top"
|{{Pokémon/1
|game=Yellow
|ndex=007
|pokemon=Squirtle
|level=10
|type1=Water
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal
|move2=Tail Whip|move2type=Normal
|move3=Bubble|move3type=Water}}
|{{Pokémon/7
|game=PE
|ndex=007
|pokemon=Squirtle
|gender=both
|level=16
|type1=Water
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Tail Whip|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Bubble|move3type=Water|move3cat=Special
|move4=Withdraw|move4type=Water|move4cat=Status}}
|}

===Appearance===
{{incomplete|section|Missing overworld model from LGPE}}
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| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{ground color dark}}; background: #{{Skill color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Officer Jenny OD.png]]
|-
| Overworld sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Yellow Version|Yellow}}
|}

===Quotes===
'''Cerulean City'''
:''"These poor people here were robbed. We're postive that <sc>[[Team Rocket]]</sc> is behind this terrible deed. Even our <sc>Police Force</sc> has trouble with the {{tc|Team Rocket Grunt|<sc>Rocket</sc>s}}!"''

'''Vermilion City'''
* Before obtaining the {{badge|Thunder}}
:''"I just caught a <sc>{{p|Squirtle}}</sc> that was always getting into mischief. I think it needs a good trainer to get it straight."''

* After obtaining the Thunder Badge
:''"You have the <sc>Thunder Badge</sc>!? You must be a good trainer! I just caught a <sc>Squirtle</sc> that was always getting into mischief. Would you take good care of it?"''
::'''No''': ''"Oh... What am I to do now?"''
::'''Yes''': (after giving the Squirtle to the player) ''"OK! Please treat <sc>Squirtle</sc> right!"''

* If talked to again
:''"How is <sc>Squirtle</sc> doing?"''

==In the manga==
[[File:Officer Jenny EToP.png|thumb|200px|Officer Jenny in The Electric Tale of Pikachu]]
===In The Electric Tale of Pikachu manga===
An Officer Jenny makes a brief cameo in ''[[ET07|Pikachu's Excellent Adventure]]'', where she is chasing {{TRT}} in a helicopter. Generic police officers appear as well.

It is stated that {{an|Brock}} is the only character that can tell the Officer Jennys apart.

===In the movie adaptations===
Officer Jenny appeared in ''{{ma|Hoopa and the Clash of Ages}}''.

==Trivia==
* In ''[[EP007|The Water Flowers of Cerulean City]]'', the Officer Jenny of Cerulean City refers to the one in Viridian City as her sister-in-law. This implies that one of them is married, probably the one in Viridian City since the Cerulean Jenny didn't mention a spouse when Brock asked her out.
* Officer Jenny, [[Nurse Joy]], and [[Don George]] all have Japanese names that begin with the kana ジ, while their English names all start with the same sound, {{wp|dʒ}}. They also all happen to be part of a large, extended family.
* The Officer Jennys in [[Kanto]], the [[Orange Archipelago]], [[Johto]], [[Hoenn]], and [[Sinnoh]] can be distinguished by the design of the symbol on their hat, the Jennys of [[Unova]] and [[Kalos]] are identified by the color of the symbol, and the officer Jenny's of [[Alola]] are identified by the color of the stripe on their vest.

==Names==
{| class="roundy" style="float:left; background: #{{Skill color}}; border: 3px solid #{{ground color dark}}"
|-
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Japanese
| ジュンサー ''Junsar''
| From 巡査 ''junsa'' (police)
|- style="background:#FFF"
| English
| Officer Jenny
| Likely chosen for its similarity to the Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Bulgarian
| Полицай Дженни ''Politsay Dzhenni'' {{tt|*|Diamond and Pearl series}} Сержант Дженни ''Serzhant Dzhenni''
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and mainland China}})
| 君莎 ''Jūnshā''
| Transliteration of her Japanese name.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Cantonese|Hong Kong}})
| 君莎 ''Gwānsā''
| Transliteration of her Japanese name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Danish
| Betjent Jenny Assistent Jenny{{tt|*|M01}}
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Dutch
| Agent Jenny
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Finnish
| Konstaapeli Jenny
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| French
| Agent Jenny
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| German
| Officer Rocky
|
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Icelandic
| Jenny Lögreglukona
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Italian
| Agente Jenny
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Korean
| 여경 ''Yeogyeong''
| Can translate as "female police" 女警
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Malay
| Officer Jenny{{tt|*|in later episodes}} Pegawai Jenny{{tt|*|in earlier episodes}}
| Same as English name From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Norwegian
| Offiser Jenny{{tt|*|Pokémon the Series: Black & White - present}} Konstabel Jenny{{tt|*|M01, M03}}
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Polish
| Sierżant Jenny{{tt|*|Diamond and Pearl series onwards}} Oficer Jenny{{tt|*|EP062 to Advanced}} Policjantka Jenny{{tt|*|EP012, EP054, EP267, AG002}} Posterunkowa Jenny{{tt|*|M01, M03}}
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Brazilian Portuguese
| Oficial Jenny{{tt|*|anime, The Official Pokémon Handbook}} Policial Jenny{{tt|*|Pokémon Characters Guidebook}}
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Romanian
| Polițista Jenny
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Russian
| Oфицер Дженни ''Ofitser Dzhenni'' Полицейская Дженни ''Politseyskaya Dzhenni''{{tt|*|BW101}}
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Spanish
| Agente Mara
|
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Swedish
| Konstapel Jenny Polisen Jenny{{tt|*|M03 subtitles}} Anbefäl Jenny{{tt|*|M01}}
| From English name
|- style="background:#FFF"
| Turkish
| Memure Jenny
| From English name
|}
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* [[Marble (DP059)]]
* {{cat|Episodes focusing on Officer Jenny}}
* [[a:Category:Officer Jenny|Images on the Bulbagarden Archives]]
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Talk:Pokémon Journeys: The Series

2020-05-22T11:43:58Z

African Vulture: /* Time for action on the change */

==The series is more based on Pokémon Go and Pokémon Masters than SwSh==

Just thought you aught to put the mobile games in front of the Gen 8 core game series since the new series will be promoting all of the regions than SwSh. [[User:Cynthia149|Cynthia149]] ([[User talk:Cynthia149|talk]]) 11:23, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

:You're going to need an external source to back that up. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 11:26, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

::I can already think of one, the new character Go. The description of his goals to complete his Pokedex and capture Mew. The way they will travel to all the regions in the Pokémon world (And likely meet the Gym Leaders, strong trainers, E4s and Champions in each Region) instead of just going through and showcasing Galar like the previous series. Since Ash would represent the mainline games, Go seems to represent Go, so to attract the people that play the mobile games to watch the anime. [[User:Cynthia149|Cynthia149]] ([[User talk:Cynthia149|talk]]) 11:30, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

:::When I say "external source", I mean an interview from the production staff that explicitly confirms that. Having a character named Go could mean anything in the eyes of the writers. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 11:32, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

::::The Pokedexes also shout ''Nice'', ''Great'' and ''Excellent'' every time they catch something. Please don't tell me that's obviously Pokemon Go inspired. Though not completely, it is worth mentioning for the anime. [[User:Cynthia149|Cynthia149]] ([[User talk:Cynthia149|talk]]) 20:19, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

:::::But that's not an "external source", now is it? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:28, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

::::::What 'external source'? These are some of the real reasons to why I hate you elitist fans so much, and it's not just with Pokemon, it's with all fandoms. I wish they never exist at all. It's because of you we have these disagreement and time-wasting pointless arguments. The proof is right in your face, and yet you don't want to believe it.[[User:Cynthia149|Cynthia149]] ([[User talk:Cynthia149|talk]]) 21:03, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

:::::::I just clarified what I meant by an "external source". Please read further up. Also, I do see the similarities, but they're very few in-between. For example, GO doesn't involve traveling to all the core series regions and doing with Ash and Go do. All I'm seeing are just aesthetics that have been carried over. The catchphrases of Pokédexes are very minute as references. I'm going to need an appearance from a GO-exclusive character to convince me and others; otherwise, an interview is going to be needed to verify this.

:::::::Lastly, you need to lay off with the attitude. It's not helping your argument any. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:13, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

::::::::It isn't much based on Sword and Shield either since it's mostly focused on the other regions as well as Galar, and yet all we've seen of Galar is Wyndon and the Wild Area (Which happens to be based on the two most popular Japanese tourist spots in the UK, London and the Lake District), that's it. The Gym Leaders in Galar would probably be the 8 strong trainers unless they're the Champions from each Region. To me, this doesn't feel like a traditional Pokemon anime any more. But then again, neither is Gen 8 since it is on a non-traditional console, as stated by Masuda himself in an interview. What is really Galar's role in this anime if it and it's Pokemon are not the main focus in the anime? I know Eternatus is going to be involved, but for what?[[User:Cynthia149|Cynthia149]] ([[User talk:Cynthia149|talk]]) 21:22, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

:::::::::Like I already said elsewhere, "'...[A]nd is based on the events of all of the core series Pokémon games, including the Generation VIII games Pokémon Sword and Shield.' I'm not saying this series is ''solely'' based on Sword and Shield." [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:25, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

::::::::::Then why even have a Generation 8 at all if that is not entirely the focus? That's what I would wish to ask the people that are making it. It just makes me frustrated that I can't. It makes me feel like they should have ended at Gen 7 and call it am day, and have Gou with an Eevee instead of a Scorbunny? [[User:Cynthia149|Cynthia149]] ([[User talk:Cynthia149|talk]]) 21:31, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

:::::::::::Because it's the newest generation, so there needs to be an emphasis on it. After all, one of the main Pokémon is a Galar starter Pokémon, so there's still some special influence of Generation VIII in this series. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:39, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

::::::::::::But why the other regions? Shouldn't they wait until Ash is done with Galar? It just makes Galar feel just like the game, empty, soulless, lacking. All it is is Ash competing in the Pokemon World Championships. I wouldn't mind if that actually appeared in the Expansion Pass, which would probably be the case with the logo of two mascots holding poke balls in the first trailer. [[User:Cynthia149|Cynthia149]] ([[User talk:Cynthia149|talk]]) 21:46, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

:::::::::::::I don't know. I can't tell you what exactly the writers and producers are thinking. I would've liked Galar to be the only focus too, but this is all we have for now. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:49, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

== Two-letter Abbreviation for this series ==

So, I'd like to have a discussion about what this site is gonna do about that. "NS" (for "New series"), "SS" (for "Shin series", but also works as "Sword & Shield"), or PM (for "Pocket Monsters") are ideas I've had. --[[User:TheMaskedMeowth|TheMaskedMeowth]] ([[User talk:TheMaskedMeowth|talk]]) 23:46, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
:"NS" sounds like the best option until we learn an official title for this series. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:04, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
::Given the episodes aren't going to air before we have a proper series title, there's no point in figuring out episcodes right now. Once there's a title, we'll work on them. If, by slim chance, the first episode does air prior to a proper title, any epicode we assign it will be temporary. If it never gets a proper title, we'll worry about that then. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 01:30, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
:::It's not getting a "proper series title" besides just Pocket Monsters. They've said several times that they're removing the subtitle for this series.--[[User:TheMaskedMeowth|TheMaskedMeowth]] ([[User talk:TheMaskedMeowth|talk]]) 04:06, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
::::Opening up the discussion again, why is the abbreviation SS if it's not even entirely based on Sword & Shield? Is the "shin series" thing actually how they refer to it in Japan or is it just a way to justify the double meaning of SS? I just think SS is a bit counterintuitive. --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 19:14, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
:::::I'll have to agree. Plus, it doesn't even seem like we'll be getting a new series after this, judging by the format of this series. If Generation IX ever does come rolling around, they'll just implement it somehow into this series, and so on and so forth. I think "NS" is the perfect episcode for this. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:20, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

==Page Title==

Why not name the series Pokémon (2019)? That's what most of the other forums are calling it.
It's been confirmed that this is the official name for the series as the anime's Twitter
page has repeated several times that this series would have the same name as the original series in 1997. {{unsigned|Alola adventurer}}

:We don't call the [[original series]] "Pokémon" even though that's the official title. We need some sort of title to fulfill the "series" quota, with or without the [[core series]] game titles. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:06, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

::There's really no "quota" apart from factual information. It’s pretty ridiculous to ignore official information just to maintain a pattern. If it is called Pocket Monsters (2019) or Pokémon Journeys: The series, then it should be called that. Plain and simple. "New series" is frankly, quite ridiculous and not factual. An encyclopaedia gives factual information, irrespective of it adhering to any "pattern" or "quota". [[User:PkmnTrainerV|The legendary PkmnTrainerV is Here!]] ([[User talk:PkmnTrainerV|talk]]) 10:46, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

== Koharu as a main character ==

Where was it confirmed that Koharu would be a main character? None of the sources I'm reading have ever clarified on that. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:12, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

== Rename the title of the series ==

A more appropriate title would be Pocket Monsters (2019). {{unsigned|Panky..}}

:We don't call the [[original series]] "Pocket Monsters" even though that's the official title. We need some sort of title to fulfill the "series" quota, with or without the [[core series]] game titles. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 22:27, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

::But I don't get why we should follow a "quora" specifically for this occasion, when there's several arbitrary decisions around it. Pocket Monsters have the "EP" epicode instead of "RG", while for some reason Bulbapedia tries to force the Sword and Shield initials for this series all the while this series in particular is not even entirely based on said games. The "shin series" thing seems like a made-up explanation to justify another meaning for "SS", as no one in Japan calls it like that in the first place. Even the title provided in the article, '''新無印編''' ''new unnamed saga'', is nowhere near as commonly used as '''ポケットモンスター (2019)''' ''Pocket Monsters (2019)''. "New series" doesn't even match the "SS" epicode either. The "new series" will stop being new at some point; in fact you could argue it's not new, it's the "current" one. Most people refer to this series as Pocket Monsters (2019), or PM, PM (2019), etc, for short. I agree that this should be renamed to "'''Pocket Monsters (2019)'''". If for some reason the first series being named "original series" is a problem, then we could rename that one to "Pocket Monsters (1997)" as well. --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 16:41, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

:::Yes, there must be a quota, because it'd be weird if every other series has the same format for a title and then there's this: "Pokémon (2019)" or "Pocket Monsters (2019)". What do you suggest we rename the {{series2|Advanced Generation}}, {{series2|Diamond & Pearl}}, {{series2|Best Wishes}}, {{series2|XY}}, and {{series|Sun & Moon}} to? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:50, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
::::I think that there should be consistency, yes, but with moderation. If an official name exist, '''we should use it'''. "'''Pocket Monster (2019)'''" seems to be the closest we can get at the moment. Also, yeah, New series will stop being new at some point, if already hasn't, so it's a silly name we shouldn't use for that matter. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 00:26, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::What about the other series, though? What're are we going to do with their names? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 02:24, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
::::::What about them? Why can't they be called "Xx Series"? --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 00:18, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::::Because you want the original and new series to be renamed "Pokémon" and "Pokémon 2019" and the others are just going to be called ''Advanced Generation'' series, ''Diamond & Pearl'' series, and so on and so forth. It would look strange. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:11, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
::::::::I didn't say anything about the original series, but the current name for this series does not look right one bit. That was rather my point. But, how about we just skip the series part entirely? That way no-one stands out. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 01:39, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::Honestly, I'm way too used to the series format, so I disagree. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:44, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
{{indent}}Honestly, you being used to something is not an argument. We should always use what's either official or the least confusing. Imo we should never have made up things like this in the first place. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 15:51, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
:Are we strongly against numbering the series? We could leave all of the article titles the same except for this one ("New series" becomes "Seventh series), and if we need to keep the episode article titles consistent you could say, for example, EP001 would be 1S001, AG001 would be 2S001, XY001 would be 5S001, etc., leading to SS001 becoming 7S001. Heck, how bad would it REALLY be if every other series is left alone and we only change this one to 7S###? --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] ([[User talk:Neumannz|talk]]) 16:29, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
::Wouldn't "reboot series" make more sense? [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 16:58, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
:::Is it really a reboot if it is still continuing the previous continuity? --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] ([[User talk:Neumannz|talk]]) 17:42, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
::::Not at all. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 23:19, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::We should've thought about what the titles should've been a long time ago, then. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:19, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
::::::We are '''''not''''' going to rename every single episode article. That is something that is not going to happen.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:41, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::::I wasn't talking about individual episodes, I was talking about '''series''' titles. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:42, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
::::::::I was responding to Neumannz's suggestion.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:24, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh, my bad. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:27, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
{{indent}}That's fine. What about the second suggestion of just renaming the episode articles from the new season? And the suggestion of renaming ''this'' article to "Seventh series"? --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] ([[User talk:Neumannz|talk]]) 15:01, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
:{{U|Force Fire}} just said renaming episode articles are a no-go. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:49, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
:: If we truly need consistency then I'm all down for renaming every series, such as "Pocket Monsters: Advanced Generation" instead of "Advanced Generation series". But my personal take is that under no circumstances this one should be titled "new series" and that takes priority. I'm also against using the "SS" epicode (we might as well use the "RS" epicode instead of "AG" by that logic), but I guess there's no possibility for that to change. "PM" is also risky if the next series will retain the exact same title anyways. --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 03:36, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
:::The issue with changing the epicodes, is, as I understand it, having to change the many hundreds of them scattered everywhere. So 'SS' may still be able to be changed now, but by the time it ends and has 100+ episodes, it'll be too late, most likely.
:::'Shin series' isn't a specific term exclusive to this year, in case it wasn't clear — for example [https://animeanime.jp/article/2010/08/27/6871.html here's a 2010 Japanese news report] about Pokémon having its 'first Shin Series in 4 years', Best Wishes.
:::While it's something Pokémon hasn't had as an issue before, other series like Doraemon which have had reboots tend to be called Doraemon (1973), Doraemon (1979), Doraemon (2005) for disambiguation. So 'year-in-brackets' is pretty much the standard on other sites. It seems like GrammarFreak01 is the only one exacting a series quota against this? Though, "Pocket Monsters (2019)" certainly doesn't fit with "[[Original series]]".
:::It's certainly not imaginitive, how about "The 2019 TV series", with codes 19001, 19002, etc, or possibly 2019001, 2019002, etc? While they are just numbers, they'd be high enough they shouldn't cause any overlap, and would resolve any future overlap issues for a minimum of 100 years.
:::And of course, there's already a [https://corocoro.jp/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/c7eed142c7e30a1401bb73f491f361d5.jpg manga by Machito Gomi based on the new series] that will eventually need a page title figured out too, if the situation wasn't messy enough. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] ([[User talk:Bluesun|talk]]) 10:16, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
::::I like where we're at right now. I have my doubts there'll be another series after this, anyway. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:15, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::How come? --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 22:43, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
::::::With the way this series is structured (Ash and Go traveling to a different region per episode), they can just easily introduce the next generation's region within this series, and so on and so forth. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:39, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::::I would not trust that this series would go on indefinitely. Even if the structure is different from previous ones and has a lot more flexibilty, the odds of the show choosing to use the same formula for the rest of its days seem pretty small, and there does not seem to be a reason for us to take the chance if we don't have to. --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] ([[User talk:Neumannz|talk]]) 15:42, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
::::::::Just throwing my hat in the ring, but while "new series" is a fitting name for the moment, the series will eventually end at one point, so it's not the most suitable name long-term (and even if we were to assume that this will go on indefinitely, it still won't be considered new anymore in a few years, will it?). The Epicode also doesn't suit the series, since this barely features any elements form Sword & Shield, so why would the SS code be used? I'd say "2019 series" would be a more appropriate title for this series. It would still be in line with Bulbapedia's naming convention and would allow for the use of a more fitting Epicode (like TN (from '''t'''wenty '''n'''ineteen), for example), instead of using one that barely has anything to do with the series proper. [[User:Pulsaro23|Pulsaro23]] ([[User talk:Pulsaro23|talk]]) 15:06, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::"2019 series" actually sounds like a good idea at the moment. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:13, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
{{indent}}I'd vote for that or else my below suggestion of @Go series@ as in to go somewhere, since a whole lot of the series (judging by me reading bulbapedia articles of the episodes) involves Ash and the male companion visiting different regions.
This also gives us a good epicode prefix of go this way we're not using Sword and Shield's innitials for epicodes.
As for the male character's name go, I don't think that will stick in the dub so calling it @Go series' wouldn't be naming it after this character, rather it would be naming it after the fact that Ash and the male companion go to all of the various regions. Follow my logic?
I'd also be fore the names @World series@ with ws epicode prefix or else @Pokemon World series@ with PM as the epicode prefix, in order to follow the theme of visiting many regions.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 07:29, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
:I would rather not move the page until the dub is announced. Hopefully the dub will provide it with some kind of name, given that they've recently gone back and given names to all of the previous series (despite them not originally having names in the dub). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:58, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
The dub has been given the title of Pokémon Journeys: The Series. With this, we should now be looking at changing the name of the series because it's definitely no longer New (plus the prefix for episodes could be altered to PJ instead of SS).[[User:Watchermark|Watchermark]] ([[User talk:Watchermark|talk]]) 14:00, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
:I agree, even if it might be odd for what has always been a Japan-centric article category, Pokemon Journeys: The Series is the most distinguished title it’s going to get. I don’t know what it would mean for the pre-XY series. Personally I wasn’t a fan of the retronaming of “Pokemon The Series: The Beginning” or for the Johto arc and Advanced Generation series being retronamed after their games so I’m very conflicted on how I’d want the dominos to fall in such an effect--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 06:24, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
::Well tbf, "Journeys" is because the series is based on Pokemon GO, not Sword and Shield. episode articles should prob use PJ too, instead of SS.[[User:Roserade57|Roserade57]] ([[User talk:Roserade57|talk]]) 03:16, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
:::Do you have a reliable source saying this series is based on GO? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:30, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
::::I honestly can’t see it. Go elements can be incorporated without being the basis of the entire series--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 03:35, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::Me neither. This seems to be an opinion only this user has. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:37, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
::::::Literally a trainer named "Go". takes place worldwide like how the app is worldwide.[[User:Roserade57|Roserade57]] ([[User talk:Roserade57|talk]]) 02:20, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::::While I can see why, it seems like a stretch, objectively. Do you have a source that confirms it was what the production staff had in mind while conceiving this? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:34, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
{{indent}}Regardless of if it's based on Pokemon Go or not, we know it is not based on Sword and Shield barring a few eps that take place in Galar. the reason why this series is different I'd argue is that all previous series were based on specific games, I.E. BW for Black & White, XY based on X & Y, ETC. This is an unorthodox series as it is based on not one but all core series games and features all core-series reagons and apparently acknowledges the Orange Islands in an episode with Ash's trophy appearing. So
We also don't know for sure if the character of Go is going to be called Go in English, because in English go is a verb, not a name, unless they're going to make it a sort of nickname. So while I strongly agree that it is not based jus ton SS and therefore SS is inappropriate and the Sin series excuse in my oppinion is watchogwash, (see wha tI did there) PJ makes sense, and I'm obviously not alone there.
So while I see the arguments on what to do about past series being valid, I do not believe it applies here as this is different than other series before it, therefore it should not be judged based on what was done for previous series.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 02:28, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
:Even if it doesn't look like it right now, future episodes indicate a more Galar-centric tone, what with the upcoming appearances of [[Raihan]] and [[Sonia]], plus the fact that the Pokémon World Championships have a basis in the {{OBP|Battle Tower|Generation VIII}} and [[Battle Stadium]] of {{g|Sword and Shield}}. I'd say it's based on Sword and Shield. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:34, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
::Unfortunately grammar freak, your argument is poor. Roserade57 speculates that it's based on Pokemon Go based on it being about the world, and your argument of it being based on Sword & Shield is based on a few galar characters appearing and the loosest basing on the battle tower.
::You're trying to find a precedent for this series compared to a single one but in actuality this comes from all the various series.
::Just face the fact that this is different than the others before it and stop clinging to the idea of each series being based on a single generation based on precedent. As my sister Anice Moriarty says, precedent doesn't mean present truth.
::[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 16:40, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
:::"...[A]nd is based on the events of all of the [[core series]] [[Pokémon games]], including the [[Generation VIII]] games [[Pokémon Sword and Shield]]." I'm not saying this series is ''solely'' based on Sword and Shield. But you're arguing there is absolutely no Sword and Shield basis for this series, which isn't entirely accurate. Pokémon GO doesn't involve going to the existing core series regions, if I remember correctly. You're going to need a source confirming the production staff explicitly based this series on GO, otherwise the similarities to GO are pretty weak. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:16, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
::::You're wrong about what I'm arguing. I'm not saying that it isn't based on s&S at all, rather I'm saying it isn't based on S&S alone so therefore using SS (Sword and Shiled) for epicodes is not warrented as we have an official title now and I'm not buying "Sin Series" when even in the epicodes article it out and out says Sword & Shield.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 21:51, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::Well, you just said, and I quote, "Regardless of if it's based on Pokemon Go or not, we know it is not based on Sword and Shield barring a few eps that take place in Galar." [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:53, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, and it's true. There are episodes based on Sword & Shield, but the entire series is not. It is based on all the core series games including Sword & Shield, meaning it includes episodes based on Sword & Shield. The AG series had some episodes that can be viewed as being based on FR&LG but that doesn't make ag132-ag192 a FR&LG series does it? The whole Journies series is not based on just S&S, rather it's based on all core-series games and features all the regions up to Galar. For all we know when gen IX comes around the Journies series will include that region and elements of those core-series games too, just as is done with S&S and the others. follow me now?
::::::I know this isn't a case of Uganda English vs. U.S. English, I'm sure my meaning is clear.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 04:04, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Yes, but the {{series|Advanced Generation}} article says, "...[A]nd is based on the events of the [[core series]] [[Generation III]] [[Pokémon games]]." It doesn't say it was based on {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}} only. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 18:56, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
::::::::The main brunt is... it shouldn't be called "new series". what happens when gen 9 start? "new new series" "newiest series" "newseries mcnewseriesface"?[[User:Roserade57|Roserade57]] ([[User talk:Roserade57|talk]]) 23:24, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::Well, obviously, hence my suggestion of "''Journeys'' series". [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:16, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
I’d also like to just propose that when the page moves, that the italic directory at the top of the page (forgive me for blanking on the proper term) read “''For the first dub season of this series, see [[S23]]''”--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 03:50, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
Regardless, have we reached a consensis of [[Pokémon Journeys: The Series]]?
I think most if not all of us agree that New Series does not work since we now have an official name. After we move this page we can discuss what to do with the epicodes.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 12:19, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
:I think this page (and all series pages, except the original series) should be moved to their dub names. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:18, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
While I do not disagree with you Snorlax Monster, I don't think we should go moving other pages without consensis on those individual pages.
I think right now the focus should be on moving this New Series page to the suggested name of Pokemon journeys the Series, since the word "new" is relative to when the series comes out. Either way the current title has to go and soon as it ceases to be new after some time.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 13:23, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
:On that subject Snorlax Monster, the only page I'd likely agree with changing apart from this one is [[Best Wishes series]] to [[Black & White series]], consistency arguments would be better with Best Wishes vs. Black & white arpage instead of this one, because at least the BW series is based on a specific generation and specific core-series games, unlike the Journeys series which is based on all of them, not just the gen VIII games.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 13:31, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
::I hope this page can be moved soon. The dub is going to start airing in Canada this weekend. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:10, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

== series and epicode name question ==

Hello
What exactly does SS stand fore since the series is not at all based on Sword and Shield save for a couple eps to date? And what's going to be new about it in let's say a year's time?

Why not call it the Pokemon World series and have the episodes renamed form ss001 to PM or PW001.
Pokemon World series comes from the fact that post Sun and Moon league win, Ash is exploring the Pokemon World.
I'm thinking if you were to rename this series to something related to the Pokemon world it would be a better reflection of what is going on rather than just "New" series, a term that is going to be out of date real fast.
As for epicodes, what is SS anyway, given that it has little to do with just Sword and Shield? If you do rename it, do it soon while there are only 9 or 10 eps, rather than waiting eons then complaining about renaming 144 episodes or something like that.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 15:50, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

:Another good name is Go Series. Not go like in the character as I highly doubt his name will remain Go when he gets dubbed, as "Go" is a word in English not a name, but go as in to go somewhere. snd have the epicodes be go I.E. go001, go002
:[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 16:00, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
::I suppose SS means Shin Series. Shin means '''New''' in Japanese. [[User:Nintenchris5963|Nintenchris5963]] ([[User talk:Nintenchris5963|talk]]) 14:21, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

:::We're not baptizing this series. We need a title for the article and epicodes that accurately portray the ''official title'' (which is just "Pocket Monsters"), not inventing new things like "Go series" or "World series". --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 17:53, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

::::Agreed. Let's see what the English dub calls it first before we make any decisions. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 22:43, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

:::::Bumping discussion. Now that we know the English-dubbed title, does this change anything? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:26, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

::::::I favor adjusting the names, personally. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 01:55, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

:::::::Me too. At the very least, we can't call this 'new series' forever. [[User:Watchermark|Watchermark]] ([[User talk:Watchermark|talk]]) 14:21, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

::::::::"New series" was just meant to be a placeholder, it even says so in the article with only having the fans calling it that. Now that we know the English dubbed title, we just need to decide what to adjust the names to.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]] ([[User talk:Animaltamer7|talk]]) 14:41, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

:::::::::Simple: "''Journeys'' series". [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:13, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

I support this too and a new epicode of PJ instead of SS, and I say do it soon before we get too many episodes.

[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 16:41, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

:PJ for Pokémon Journeys sounds good - but then if that happened, would we change the side stories epicode again? '''[[User:JoeRunner|JoeRunner]] ([[User talk:JoeRunner|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/JoeRunner|and stuff]])''' 21:10, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Just leave the side stories since they appear to be different things altogether, I.E. chronicals is not the same series as the Mega Evolution ones.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 22:31, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

: "Pokémon Journeys: The Series" works too. [[User:PkmnTrainerV|PkmnTrainerV]] ([[User talk:PkmnTrainerV|talk]]) 05:22, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

== The Page Title ==

Why is the page title even called "New Series"? We already have an official title in the form of Pocket Monsters 2019, or alternatively Pokémon Journeys: The Series. The only argument on this page so far talks about some hypothetical "quota" to keep the pages consistent. But the truth is, the title isn’t actually consistent with the previous ones, and it’s a fact. Factual information shouldn’t be ignored just to satisfy so called "quotas" when Bulbapedia (quite stubbornly, at times) aims to include only official information. Then why are they ditching official information to add a new, frankly ridiculous page title? [[User:PkmnTrainerV|The legendary PkmnTrainerV is Here!]] ([[User talk:PkmnTrainerV|talk]]) 10:50, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

:The Bulbapedia names for previous series seem to be based on their Japanese name when the English name is different. That trend suggests that this series should be called the ''Pocket Monsters'' series. However, the name that [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] suggested above, ''Journeys'' series, might make more sense for English-language articles. It also reflects the name used on the equivalent page in most of the non-Japanese wikis (e.g. the [https://www.wikidex.net/wiki/Serie_Viajes_Pok%C3%A9mon the Spanish language page]). How aligned should the name be across languages? [[User:Butterfreeism|'''–Butterfreeism''']] ([[User talk:Butterfreeism|talk]]) 07:31, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

::I don’t see the issue with it being called "Pocket Monsters (2019)" with redirects set up for Pokémon Journeys and the variations. [[User:PkmnTrainerV|PkmnTrainerV]] ([[User talk:PkmnTrainerV|talk]]) 05:20, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

:::The thing is, this wiki uses English dub names, and your suggested title is the original Japanese title. That wouldn't work here. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:14, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
::::Except series names have ended up being based on the Japanese names. Advanced Generation and Best Wishes best exemplify that. However, I still feel bucking the trend and going with either the full title (Pokemon Journeys: The Series) or “Journeys series”--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 23:18, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

:::::That's beside the point. If the English and Japanese names are different, then the wiki uses the English names. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:25, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::How is it beside the point when I gave you the two examples that best show that your claim is wrong? [[Advanced Generation series]] and [[Best Wishes series]] are the article names, not redirects!--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 23:38, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Because Journeys is a totally different title from Pocket Monsters (2019) and therefore couldn't have been based on the latter. AG and BW's names are irrelevant for this case. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:42, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::::What’s irrelevant is your goalpost moving. You made the claim “If the English and Japanese names are different, then the wiki uses the English names.” And I showed you that your claim was incorrect--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 23:45, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::Well, if the English and Japanese names are identical, then of course the Japanese ones are going to be used because they're also the English names. But that isn't the case with this series. That's why I'm trying to say. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:48, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::The names I used as examples are ''not'' identical. Especially considering the English retronym for “Advanced Generation” has nothing to do with Advanced, your point is even weaker--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 23:56, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::::That's not what the AG article says. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:00, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::::First template, first line. Don’t lie.--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:06, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Look, I didn't see that at first. Please be more patient. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:13, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
While I agree with you Grammar Freak that the Best Wishes issue needs to be discussed on the BW page, Best Wishes series is not the English name for that series. I also agree with you that Journeys Series with an epicode of PG001 is warranted, now that we have official English names.
I think that this series ceases to be new within a few weeks of it airing, does it not?
So I think that if this change to eithe rPokemon Journeys the Series or else Journeys Series isn't made by mid June, then I fear that any arguments over what this page should be called are going to be endless, especially if the next series is not a continuation of the Journeys series.
Let's decide what to call this page soon and make this change by at least June 15th or June 20th at the absolute latest. We can't keep this New Series and SS stuff forever lest you be willing to put up with endless arguments.
I will see if there is a thread at the page for [[Talk:Best Wishes series]] and if not, then I'll start one and we can discuss the Black & White series vs. Best Wishes series name there.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 01:07, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

== Wrong Spanish name used (dropped La Serie) ==

The Spanish title has dropped "La Serie" from the title (The Series). You can check it in the official YouTube trailer description: https://youtu.be/lhQxOIPf7-U (¡Comienza a prepararte para una nueva aventura de Ash y Pikachu en Viajes Pokémon!) and also in the official PR https://pokemon.gamespress.com/es/The-Pokemon-Company-International-desvela-el-nuevo-trailer-y-los-detal (Esta apasionante aventura llevará por título Viajes Pokémon.). In other languages, in both examples The Series is still included in the text, so it's only Spanish (and maybe other languages) that Dropped this part of the title. [[User:Josephvb10|Josephvb10]] ([[User talk:Josephvb10|talk]]) 17:57, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
:It's still used in the title of the trailer and [https://www.pokemon.com/es/noticias-pokemon/la-serie-viajes-pokemon-llega-mas-adelante-este-ano/ the official site] as well as the logo in the same way that previous series have, so I don't think it's necessarily changed from past series. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 19:52, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
::Except it's not being used in either the trailer or the official site. As I said, the official trailer doesn't include The Series in the description nor in the logo at the end. And in the official website, the official title which is italicized only includes Viajes Pokémon, not another single word. In contrast, in other languages the italicized part includes The Series. [[User:Josephvb10|Josephvb10]] ([[User talk:Josephvb10|talk]]) 02:13, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

== Time for action on the change ==

Can somebody please tell me what we are waiting for here?
Is this going to be changed to Journeys series or Pokemon Journeys the Series or not? I know I said mid June as the latest date, but surely some discussions are still ongoing, there is a consensus that the name needs to change, so what exactly is the waiting for?
You can't justify waiting indefinitely.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 07:39, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
:It's being discussed. Have patience. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:23, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
::There's more to this than just renaming a page you know. There are other issues to be resolved such as Epicodes. A June deadline isn't something you get to determine. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 19:12, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
:::Maybe not Hoenn Master, but indefinitely is not good either. But what is good is the new epicode JN, that works excellently, I like it. [[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 02:57, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
::::We have completed the move from "SS" to "JN" today. The move for the Series will be done at a later date. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 03:24, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::I'm happy to see this move being. How soon can we expect the series article being renamed? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:53, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::Should the rename happen today? [[User:Tag365|Tag365]] ([[User talk:Tag365|talk]]) 21:10, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
I also want to correct HoennMaster97, because I never said that bad things will happen nor am i pretending I have ltimate authority for a June deadline, so I'm not trying to say you must do it by mid June, but what I am saying is that mid June is an ideal deadline at the latest. Key word here is Ideal. Maybe it'll happen in July, maybe August, but I meant to say that June is an ideal later deadline.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 09:10, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

I'd @[[User:Tag365|Tag365]] say move it either today or soon to minimize the amount of articles effected, especially while ep count is relatively low.
The longer we wait the more articles will be effected and the more switchovers will have to be done. That's the ohte rreason why I recommend doing it sooner rather than later, the headache will be lesser.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 21:54, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
:Please do not continue asking when the rename will take place. The rename will take place as soon as the necessary staff members involved are able to have time together to complete the task, which is at some point within the week. We know we all are excited to get the moves completed, but just a little more patience would be greatly appreciated. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 21:59, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
::Sorry for tryingto help and save you headache while you wait for some Ausie guy to decide what to do. You guys rely on abcboy far way too much, when he lives in a completely different time zone and therefore may not see thigns until day time his time wich is quite a few hours ahead of me here in Eastern Africa, and I'm 8 hours head of Central USA. [[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 23:29, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
:::If you wanna pay me a great wage to work fulltime on the site I'll gladly take you up on it! ^^
:::...In the meantime, please respect that people have their own schedules. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:43, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
::::If you’re all the way in Eastern Africa, and Abcboy uses Eastern Time, aren't you the one with the “completely different time zone” from Central Time, Vulture? Eastern is much more manageable with Central than any African time zone--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:49, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::I believe abcboy is in Australia, is he not? [[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 01:55, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::His profile says he uses Eastern Time, and even his Twitter says he’s in the US. If you’re gonna rant, be accurate with your info.--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 02:01, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Well I'm not up on bulbapedia admins as I only come here some times, mostly when I get notifications.
I go weeks or even months without touching thigns here some times depending on my work schedule I know one of the main dudes in charge is from Australia, one of the ones I'm always told to wait for before changing anything..
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 03:00, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
:Please stop this discussion immediately. It's starting to deviate from the topic. The moving of Series will take place soon, it's up to the admins to decide when will the move take place and who will be doing it. It has NOTHING to do with where abcboy lives. Fulfilling a big project requires help from a group of staff and not just a single admin. Also, since a change of large amount of information is to take place, it will strain the server. In order to prevent that from happening, we have to do the moving of SS to JN and the Series pages separately. The move WILL take place, just NOT at the very moment. Please wait patiently, thank you!
:Lastly, African Vulture, please indent your messages properly. A reply needs to have a <nowiki>:</nowiki> in the front of your messages. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 07:38, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
: I do try to indent, is there a place where I can get help with that as when I preview it it doesn't always work. not sure if it does here but i'll see
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 11:43, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon Journeys: The Series

2020-05-22T03:00:46Z

African Vulture: /* Time for action on the change */

==The series is more based on Pokémon Go and Pokémon Masters than SwSh==

Just thought you aught to put the mobile games in front of the Gen 8 core game series since the new series will be promoting all of the regions than SwSh. [[User:Cynthia149|Cynthia149]] ([[User talk:Cynthia149|talk]]) 11:23, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

:You're going to need an external source to back that up. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 11:26, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

::I can already think of one, the new character Go. The description of his goals to complete his Pokedex and capture Mew. The way they will travel to all the regions in the Pokémon world (And likely meet the Gym Leaders, strong trainers, E4s and Champions in each Region) instead of just going through and showcasing Galar like the previous series. Since Ash would represent the mainline games, Go seems to represent Go, so to attract the people that play the mobile games to watch the anime. [[User:Cynthia149|Cynthia149]] ([[User talk:Cynthia149|talk]]) 11:30, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

:::When I say "external source", I mean an interview from the production staff that explicitly confirms that. Having a character named Go could mean anything in the eyes of the writers. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 11:32, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

::::The Pokedexes also shout ''Nice'', ''Great'' and ''Excellent'' every time they catch something. Please don't tell me that's obviously Pokemon Go inspired. Though not completely, it is worth mentioning for the anime. [[User:Cynthia149|Cynthia149]] ([[User talk:Cynthia149|talk]]) 20:19, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

:::::But that's not an "external source", now is it? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:28, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

::::::What 'external source'? These are some of the real reasons to why I hate you elitist fans so much, and it's not just with Pokemon, it's with all fandoms. I wish they never exist at all. It's because of you we have these disagreement and time-wasting pointless arguments. The proof is right in your face, and yet you don't want to believe it.[[User:Cynthia149|Cynthia149]] ([[User talk:Cynthia149|talk]]) 21:03, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

:::::::I just clarified what I meant by an "external source". Please read further up. Also, I do see the similarities, but they're very few in-between. For example, GO doesn't involve traveling to all the core series regions and doing with Ash and Go do. All I'm seeing are just aesthetics that have been carried over. The catchphrases of Pokédexes are very minute as references. I'm going to need an appearance from a GO-exclusive character to convince me and others; otherwise, an interview is going to be needed to verify this.

:::::::Lastly, you need to lay off with the attitude. It's not helping your argument any. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:13, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

::::::::It isn't much based on Sword and Shield either since it's mostly focused on the other regions as well as Galar, and yet all we've seen of Galar is Wyndon and the Wild Area (Which happens to be based on the two most popular Japanese tourist spots in the UK, London and the Lake District), that's it. The Gym Leaders in Galar would probably be the 8 strong trainers unless they're the Champions from each Region. To me, this doesn't feel like a traditional Pokemon anime any more. But then again, neither is Gen 8 since it is on a non-traditional console, as stated by Masuda himself in an interview. What is really Galar's role in this anime if it and it's Pokemon are not the main focus in the anime? I know Eternatus is going to be involved, but for what?[[User:Cynthia149|Cynthia149]] ([[User talk:Cynthia149|talk]]) 21:22, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

:::::::::Like I already said elsewhere, "'...[A]nd is based on the events of all of the core series Pokémon games, including the Generation VIII games Pokémon Sword and Shield.' I'm not saying this series is ''solely'' based on Sword and Shield." [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:25, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

::::::::::Then why even have a Generation 8 at all if that is not entirely the focus? That's what I would wish to ask the people that are making it. It just makes me frustrated that I can't. It makes me feel like they should have ended at Gen 7 and call it am day, and have Gou with an Eevee instead of a Scorbunny? [[User:Cynthia149|Cynthia149]] ([[User talk:Cynthia149|talk]]) 21:31, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

:::::::::::Because it's the newest generation, so there needs to be an emphasis on it. After all, one of the main Pokémon is a Galar starter Pokémon, so there's still some special influence of Generation VIII in this series. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:39, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

::::::::::::But why the other regions? Shouldn't they wait until Ash is done with Galar? It just makes Galar feel just like the game, empty, soulless, lacking. All it is is Ash competing in the Pokemon World Championships. I wouldn't mind if that actually appeared in the Expansion Pass, which would probably be the case with the logo of two mascots holding poke balls in the first trailer. [[User:Cynthia149|Cynthia149]] ([[User talk:Cynthia149|talk]]) 21:46, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

:::::::::::::I don't know. I can't tell you what exactly the writers and producers are thinking. I would've liked Galar to be the only focus too, but this is all we have for now. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:49, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

== Two-letter Abbreviation for this series ==

So, I'd like to have a discussion about what this site is gonna do about that. "NS" (for "New series"), "SS" (for "Shin series", but also works as "Sword & Shield"), or PM (for "Pocket Monsters") are ideas I've had. --[[User:TheMaskedMeowth|TheMaskedMeowth]] ([[User talk:TheMaskedMeowth|talk]]) 23:46, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
:"NS" sounds like the best option until we learn an official title for this series. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:04, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
::Given the episodes aren't going to air before we have a proper series title, there's no point in figuring out episcodes right now. Once there's a title, we'll work on them. If, by slim chance, the first episode does air prior to a proper title, any epicode we assign it will be temporary. If it never gets a proper title, we'll worry about that then. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 01:30, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
:::It's not getting a "proper series title" besides just Pocket Monsters. They've said several times that they're removing the subtitle for this series.--[[User:TheMaskedMeowth|TheMaskedMeowth]] ([[User talk:TheMaskedMeowth|talk]]) 04:06, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
::::Opening up the discussion again, why is the abbreviation SS if it's not even entirely based on Sword & Shield? Is the "shin series" thing actually how they refer to it in Japan or is it just a way to justify the double meaning of SS? I just think SS is a bit counterintuitive. --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 19:14, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
:::::I'll have to agree. Plus, it doesn't even seem like we'll be getting a new series after this, judging by the format of this series. If Generation IX ever does come rolling around, they'll just implement it somehow into this series, and so on and so forth. I think "NS" is the perfect episcode for this. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:20, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

==Page Title==

Why not name the series Pokémon (2019)? That's what most of the other forums are calling it.
It's been confirmed that this is the official name for the series as the anime's Twitter
page has repeated several times that this series would have the same name as the original series in 1997. {{unsigned|Alola adventurer}}

:We don't call the [[original series]] "Pokémon" even though that's the official title. We need some sort of title to fulfill the "series" quota, with or without the [[core series]] game titles. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:06, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

::There's really no "quota" apart from factual information. It’s pretty ridiculous to ignore official information just to maintain a pattern. If it is called Pocket Monsters (2019) or Pokémon Journeys: The series, then it should be called that. Plain and simple. "New series" is frankly, quite ridiculous and not factual. An encyclopaedia gives factual information, irrespective of it adhering to any "pattern" or "quota". [[User:PkmnTrainerV|The legendary PkmnTrainerV is Here!]] ([[User talk:PkmnTrainerV|talk]]) 10:46, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

== Koharu as a main character ==

Where was it confirmed that Koharu would be a main character? None of the sources I'm reading have ever clarified on that. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:12, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

== Rename the title of the series ==

A more appropriate title would be Pocket Monsters (2019). {{unsigned|Panky..}}

:We don't call the [[original series]] "Pocket Monsters" even though that's the official title. We need some sort of title to fulfill the "series" quota, with or without the [[core series]] game titles. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 22:27, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

::But I don't get why we should follow a "quora" specifically for this occasion, when there's several arbitrary decisions around it. Pocket Monsters have the "EP" epicode instead of "RG", while for some reason Bulbapedia tries to force the Sword and Shield initials for this series all the while this series in particular is not even entirely based on said games. The "shin series" thing seems like a made-up explanation to justify another meaning for "SS", as no one in Japan calls it like that in the first place. Even the title provided in the article, '''新無印編''' ''new unnamed saga'', is nowhere near as commonly used as '''ポケットモンスター (2019)''' ''Pocket Monsters (2019)''. "New series" doesn't even match the "SS" epicode either. The "new series" will stop being new at some point; in fact you could argue it's not new, it's the "current" one. Most people refer to this series as Pocket Monsters (2019), or PM, PM (2019), etc, for short. I agree that this should be renamed to "'''Pocket Monsters (2019)'''". If for some reason the first series being named "original series" is a problem, then we could rename that one to "Pocket Monsters (1997)" as well. --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 16:41, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

:::Yes, there must be a quota, because it'd be weird if every other series has the same format for a title and then there's this: "Pokémon (2019)" or "Pocket Monsters (2019)". What do you suggest we rename the {{series2|Advanced Generation}}, {{series2|Diamond & Pearl}}, {{series2|Best Wishes}}, {{series2|XY}}, and {{series|Sun & Moon}} to? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:50, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
::::I think that there should be consistency, yes, but with moderation. If an official name exist, '''we should use it'''. "'''Pocket Monster (2019)'''" seems to be the closest we can get at the moment. Also, yeah, New series will stop being new at some point, if already hasn't, so it's a silly name we shouldn't use for that matter. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 00:26, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::What about the other series, though? What're are we going to do with their names? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 02:24, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
::::::What about them? Why can't they be called "Xx Series"? --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 00:18, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::::Because you want the original and new series to be renamed "Pokémon" and "Pokémon 2019" and the others are just going to be called ''Advanced Generation'' series, ''Diamond & Pearl'' series, and so on and so forth. It would look strange. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:11, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
::::::::I didn't say anything about the original series, but the current name for this series does not look right one bit. That was rather my point. But, how about we just skip the series part entirely? That way no-one stands out. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 01:39, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::Honestly, I'm way too used to the series format, so I disagree. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:44, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
{{indent}}Honestly, you being used to something is not an argument. We should always use what's either official or the least confusing. Imo we should never have made up things like this in the first place. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 15:51, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
:Are we strongly against numbering the series? We could leave all of the article titles the same except for this one ("New series" becomes "Seventh series), and if we need to keep the episode article titles consistent you could say, for example, EP001 would be 1S001, AG001 would be 2S001, XY001 would be 5S001, etc., leading to SS001 becoming 7S001. Heck, how bad would it REALLY be if every other series is left alone and we only change this one to 7S###? --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] ([[User talk:Neumannz|talk]]) 16:29, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
::Wouldn't "reboot series" make more sense? [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 16:58, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
:::Is it really a reboot if it is still continuing the previous continuity? --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] ([[User talk:Neumannz|talk]]) 17:42, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
::::Not at all. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 23:19, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::We should've thought about what the titles should've been a long time ago, then. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:19, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
::::::We are '''''not''''' going to rename every single episode article. That is something that is not going to happen.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:41, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::::I wasn't talking about individual episodes, I was talking about '''series''' titles. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:42, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
::::::::I was responding to Neumannz's suggestion.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:24, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh, my bad. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:27, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
{{indent}}That's fine. What about the second suggestion of just renaming the episode articles from the new season? And the suggestion of renaming ''this'' article to "Seventh series"? --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] ([[User talk:Neumannz|talk]]) 15:01, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
:{{U|Force Fire}} just said renaming episode articles are a no-go. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:49, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
:: If we truly need consistency then I'm all down for renaming every series, such as "Pocket Monsters: Advanced Generation" instead of "Advanced Generation series". But my personal take is that under no circumstances this one should be titled "new series" and that takes priority. I'm also against using the "SS" epicode (we might as well use the "RS" epicode instead of "AG" by that logic), but I guess there's no possibility for that to change. "PM" is also risky if the next series will retain the exact same title anyways. --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 03:36, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
:::The issue with changing the epicodes, is, as I understand it, having to change the many hundreds of them scattered everywhere. So 'SS' may still be able to be changed now, but by the time it ends and has 100+ episodes, it'll be too late, most likely.
:::'Shin series' isn't a specific term exclusive to this year, in case it wasn't clear — for example [https://animeanime.jp/article/2010/08/27/6871.html here's a 2010 Japanese news report] about Pokémon having its 'first Shin Series in 4 years', Best Wishes.
:::While it's something Pokémon hasn't had as an issue before, other series like Doraemon which have had reboots tend to be called Doraemon (1973), Doraemon (1979), Doraemon (2005) for disambiguation. So 'year-in-brackets' is pretty much the standard on other sites. It seems like GrammarFreak01 is the only one exacting a series quota against this? Though, "Pocket Monsters (2019)" certainly doesn't fit with "[[Original series]]".
:::It's certainly not imaginitive, how about "The 2019 TV series", with codes 19001, 19002, etc, or possibly 2019001, 2019002, etc? While they are just numbers, they'd be high enough they shouldn't cause any overlap, and would resolve any future overlap issues for a minimum of 100 years.
:::And of course, there's already a [https://corocoro.jp/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/c7eed142c7e30a1401bb73f491f361d5.jpg manga by Machito Gomi based on the new series] that will eventually need a page title figured out too, if the situation wasn't messy enough. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] ([[User talk:Bluesun|talk]]) 10:16, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
::::I like where we're at right now. I have my doubts there'll be another series after this, anyway. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:15, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::How come? --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 22:43, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
::::::With the way this series is structured (Ash and Go traveling to a different region per episode), they can just easily introduce the next generation's region within this series, and so on and so forth. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:39, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::::I would not trust that this series would go on indefinitely. Even if the structure is different from previous ones and has a lot more flexibilty, the odds of the show choosing to use the same formula for the rest of its days seem pretty small, and there does not seem to be a reason for us to take the chance if we don't have to. --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] ([[User talk:Neumannz|talk]]) 15:42, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
::::::::Just throwing my hat in the ring, but while "new series" is a fitting name for the moment, the series will eventually end at one point, so it's not the most suitable name long-term (and even if we were to assume that this will go on indefinitely, it still won't be considered new anymore in a few years, will it?). The Epicode also doesn't suit the series, since this barely features any elements form Sword & Shield, so why would the SS code be used? I'd say "2019 series" would be a more appropriate title for this series. It would still be in line with Bulbapedia's naming convention and would allow for the use of a more fitting Epicode (like TN (from '''t'''wenty '''n'''ineteen), for example), instead of using one that barely has anything to do with the series proper. [[User:Pulsaro23|Pulsaro23]] ([[User talk:Pulsaro23|talk]]) 15:06, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::"2019 series" actually sounds like a good idea at the moment. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:13, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
{{indent}}I'd vote for that or else my below suggestion of @Go series@ as in to go somewhere, since a whole lot of the series (judging by me reading bulbapedia articles of the episodes) involves Ash and the male companion visiting different regions.
This also gives us a good epicode prefix of go this way we're not using Sword and Shield's innitials for epicodes.
As for the male character's name go, I don't think that will stick in the dub so calling it @Go series' wouldn't be naming it after this character, rather it would be naming it after the fact that Ash and the male companion go to all of the various regions. Follow my logic?
I'd also be fore the names @World series@ with ws epicode prefix or else @Pokemon World series@ with PM as the epicode prefix, in order to follow the theme of visiting many regions.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 07:29, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
:I would rather not move the page until the dub is announced. Hopefully the dub will provide it with some kind of name, given that they've recently gone back and given names to all of the previous series (despite them not originally having names in the dub). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:58, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
The dub has been given the title of Pokémon Journeys: The Series. With this, we should now be looking at changing the name of the series because it's definitely no longer New (plus the prefix for episodes could be altered to PJ instead of SS).[[User:Watchermark|Watchermark]] ([[User talk:Watchermark|talk]]) 14:00, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
:I agree, even if it might be odd for what has always been a Japan-centric article category, Pokemon Journeys: The Series is the most distinguished title it’s going to get. I don’t know what it would mean for the pre-XY series. Personally I wasn’t a fan of the retronaming of “Pokemon The Series: The Beginning” or for the Johto arc and Advanced Generation series being retronamed after their games so I’m very conflicted on how I’d want the dominos to fall in such an effect--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 06:24, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
::Well tbf, "Journeys" is because the series is based on Pokemon GO, not Sword and Shield. episode articles should prob use PJ too, instead of SS.[[User:Roserade57|Roserade57]] ([[User talk:Roserade57|talk]]) 03:16, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
:::Do you have a reliable source saying this series is based on GO? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:30, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
::::I honestly can’t see it. Go elements can be incorporated without being the basis of the entire series--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 03:35, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::Me neither. This seems to be an opinion only this user has. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:37, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
::::::Literally a trainer named "Go". takes place worldwide like how the app is worldwide.[[User:Roserade57|Roserade57]] ([[User talk:Roserade57|talk]]) 02:20, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::::While I can see why, it seems like a stretch, objectively. Do you have a source that confirms it was what the production staff had in mind while conceiving this? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:34, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
{{indent}}Regardless of if it's based on Pokemon Go or not, we know it is not based on Sword and Shield barring a few eps that take place in Galar. the reason why this series is different I'd argue is that all previous series were based on specific games, I.E. BW for Black & White, XY based on X & Y, ETC. This is an unorthodox series as it is based on not one but all core series games and features all core-series reagons and apparently acknowledges the Orange Islands in an episode with Ash's trophy appearing. So
We also don't know for sure if the character of Go is going to be called Go in English, because in English go is a verb, not a name, unless they're going to make it a sort of nickname. So while I strongly agree that it is not based jus ton SS and therefore SS is inappropriate and the Sin series excuse in my oppinion is watchogwash, (see wha tI did there) PJ makes sense, and I'm obviously not alone there.
So while I see the arguments on what to do about past series being valid, I do not believe it applies here as this is different than other series before it, therefore it should not be judged based on what was done for previous series.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 02:28, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
:Even if it doesn't look like it right now, future episodes indicate a more Galar-centric tone, what with the upcoming appearances of [[Raihan]] and [[Sonia]], plus the fact that the Pokémon World Championships have a basis in the {{OBP|Battle Tower|Generation VIII}} and [[Battle Stadium]] of {{g|Sword and Shield}}. I'd say it's based on Sword and Shield. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:34, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
::Unfortunately grammar freak, your argument is poor. Roserade57 speculates that it's based on Pokemon Go based on it being about the world, and your argument of it being based on Sword & Shield is based on a few galar characters appearing and the loosest basing on the battle tower.
::You're trying to find a precedent for this series compared to a single one but in actuality this comes from all the various series.
::Just face the fact that this is different than the others before it and stop clinging to the idea of each series being based on a single generation based on precedent. As my sister Anice Moriarty says, precedent doesn't mean present truth.
::[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 16:40, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
:::"...[A]nd is based on the events of all of the [[core series]] [[Pokémon games]], including the [[Generation VIII]] games [[Pokémon Sword and Shield]]." I'm not saying this series is ''solely'' based on Sword and Shield. But you're arguing there is absolutely no Sword and Shield basis for this series, which isn't entirely accurate. Pokémon GO doesn't involve going to the existing core series regions, if I remember correctly. You're going to need a source confirming the production staff explicitly based this series on GO, otherwise the similarities to GO are pretty weak. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:16, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
::::You're wrong about what I'm arguing. I'm not saying that it isn't based on s&S at all, rather I'm saying it isn't based on S&S alone so therefore using SS (Sword and Shiled) for epicodes is not warrented as we have an official title now and I'm not buying "Sin Series" when even in the epicodes article it out and out says Sword & Shield.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 21:51, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::Well, you just said, and I quote, "Regardless of if it's based on Pokemon Go or not, we know it is not based on Sword and Shield barring a few eps that take place in Galar." [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:53, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, and it's true. There are episodes based on Sword & Shield, but the entire series is not. It is based on all the core series games including Sword & Shield, meaning it includes episodes based on Sword & Shield. The AG series had some episodes that can be viewed as being based on FR&LG but that doesn't make ag132-ag192 a FR&LG series does it? The whole Journies series is not based on just S&S, rather it's based on all core-series games and features all the regions up to Galar. For all we know when gen IX comes around the Journies series will include that region and elements of those core-series games too, just as is done with S&S and the others. follow me now?
::::::I know this isn't a case of Uganda English vs. U.S. English, I'm sure my meaning is clear.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 04:04, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Yes, but the {{series|Advanced Generation}} article says, "...[A]nd is based on the events of the [[core series]] [[Generation III]] [[Pokémon games]]." It doesn't say it was based on {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}} only. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 18:56, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
::::::::The main brunt is... it shouldn't be called "new series". what happens when gen 9 start? "new new series" "newiest series" "newseries mcnewseriesface"?[[User:Roserade57|Roserade57]] ([[User talk:Roserade57|talk]]) 23:24, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::Well, obviously, hence my suggestion of "''Journeys'' series". [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:16, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
I’d also like to just propose that when the page moves, that the italic directory at the top of the page (forgive me for blanking on the proper term) read “''For the first dub season of this series, see [[S23]]''”--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 03:50, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
Regardless, have we reached a consensis of [[Pokémon Journeys: The Series]]?
I think most if not all of us agree that New Series does not work since we now have an official name. After we move this page we can discuss what to do with the epicodes.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 12:19, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
:I think this page (and all series pages, except the original series) should be moved to their dub names. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:18, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
While I do not disagree with you Snorlax Monster, I don't think we should go moving other pages without consensis on those individual pages.
I think right now the focus should be on moving this New Series page to the suggested name of Pokemon journeys the Series, since the word "new" is relative to when the series comes out. Either way the current title has to go and soon as it ceases to be new after some time.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 13:23, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
:On that subject Snorlax Monster, the only page I'd likely agree with changing apart from this one is [[Best Wishes series]] to [[Black & White series]], consistency arguments would be better with Best Wishes vs. Black & white arpage instead of this one, because at least the BW series is based on a specific generation and specific core-series games, unlike the Journeys series which is based on all of them, not just the gen VIII games.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 13:31, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
::I hope this page can be moved soon. The dub is going to start airing in Canada this weekend. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:10, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

== series and epicode name question ==

Hello
What exactly does SS stand fore since the series is not at all based on Sword and Shield save for a couple eps to date? And what's going to be new about it in let's say a year's time?

Why not call it the Pokemon World series and have the episodes renamed form ss001 to PM or PW001.
Pokemon World series comes from the fact that post Sun and Moon league win, Ash is exploring the Pokemon World.
I'm thinking if you were to rename this series to something related to the Pokemon world it would be a better reflection of what is going on rather than just "New" series, a term that is going to be out of date real fast.
As for epicodes, what is SS anyway, given that it has little to do with just Sword and Shield? If you do rename it, do it soon while there are only 9 or 10 eps, rather than waiting eons then complaining about renaming 144 episodes or something like that.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 15:50, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

:Another good name is Go Series. Not go like in the character as I highly doubt his name will remain Go when he gets dubbed, as "Go" is a word in English not a name, but go as in to go somewhere. snd have the epicodes be go I.E. go001, go002
:[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 16:00, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
::I suppose SS means Shin Series. Shin means '''New''' in Japanese. [[User:Nintenchris5963|Nintenchris5963]] ([[User talk:Nintenchris5963|talk]]) 14:21, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

:::We're not baptizing this series. We need a title for the article and epicodes that accurately portray the ''official title'' (which is just "Pocket Monsters"), not inventing new things like "Go series" or "World series". --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 17:53, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

::::Agreed. Let's see what the English dub calls it first before we make any decisions. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 22:43, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

:::::Bumping discussion. Now that we know the English-dubbed title, does this change anything? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:26, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

::::::I favor adjusting the names, personally. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 01:55, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

:::::::Me too. At the very least, we can't call this 'new series' forever. [[User:Watchermark|Watchermark]] ([[User talk:Watchermark|talk]]) 14:21, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

::::::::"New series" was just meant to be a placeholder, it even says so in the article with only having the fans calling it that. Now that we know the English dubbed title, we just need to decide what to adjust the names to.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]] ([[User talk:Animaltamer7|talk]]) 14:41, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

:::::::::Simple: "''Journeys'' series". [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:13, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

I support this too and a new epicode of PJ instead of SS, and I say do it soon before we get too many episodes.

[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 16:41, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

:PJ for Pokémon Journeys sounds good - but then if that happened, would we change the side stories epicode again? '''[[User:JoeRunner|JoeRunner]] ([[User talk:JoeRunner|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/JoeRunner|and stuff]])''' 21:10, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Just leave the side stories since they appear to be different things altogether, I.E. chronicals is not the same series as the Mega Evolution ones.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 22:31, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

: "Pokémon Journeys: The Series" works too. [[User:PkmnTrainerV|PkmnTrainerV]] ([[User talk:PkmnTrainerV|talk]]) 05:22, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

== The Page Title ==

Why is the page title even called "New Series"? We already have an official title in the form of Pocket Monsters 2019, or alternatively Pokémon Journeys: The Series. The only argument on this page so far talks about some hypothetical "quota" to keep the pages consistent. But the truth is, the title isn’t actually consistent with the previous ones, and it’s a fact. Factual information shouldn’t be ignored just to satisfy so called "quotas" when Bulbapedia (quite stubbornly, at times) aims to include only official information. Then why are they ditching official information to add a new, frankly ridiculous page title? [[User:PkmnTrainerV|The legendary PkmnTrainerV is Here!]] ([[User talk:PkmnTrainerV|talk]]) 10:50, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

:The Bulbapedia names for previous series seem to be based on their Japanese name when the English name is different. That trend suggests that this series should be called the ''Pocket Monsters'' series. However, the name that [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] suggested above, ''Journeys'' series, might make more sense for English-language articles. It also reflects the name used on the equivalent page in most of the non-Japanese wikis (e.g. the [https://www.wikidex.net/wiki/Serie_Viajes_Pok%C3%A9mon the Spanish language page]). How aligned should the name be across languages? [[User:Butterfreeism|'''–Butterfreeism''']] ([[User talk:Butterfreeism|talk]]) 07:31, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

::I don’t see the issue with it being called "Pocket Monsters (2019)" with redirects set up for Pokémon Journeys and the variations. [[User:PkmnTrainerV|PkmnTrainerV]] ([[User talk:PkmnTrainerV|talk]]) 05:20, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

:::The thing is, this wiki uses English dub names, and your suggested title is the original Japanese title. That wouldn't work here. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:14, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
::::Except series names have ended up being based on the Japanese names. Advanced Generation and Best Wishes best exemplify that. However, I still feel bucking the trend and going with either the full title (Pokemon Journeys: The Series) or “Journeys series”--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 23:18, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

:::::That's beside the point. If the English and Japanese names are different, then the wiki uses the English names. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:25, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::How is it beside the point when I gave you the two examples that best show that your claim is wrong? [[Advanced Generation series]] and [[Best Wishes series]] are the article names, not redirects!--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 23:38, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Because Journeys is a totally different title from Pocket Monsters (2019) and therefore couldn't have been based on the latter. AG and BW's names are irrelevant for this case. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:42, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::::What’s irrelevant is your goalpost moving. You made the claim “If the English and Japanese names are different, then the wiki uses the English names.” And I showed you that your claim was incorrect--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 23:45, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::Well, if the English and Japanese names are identical, then of course the Japanese ones are going to be used because they're also the English names. But that isn't the case with this series. That's why I'm trying to say. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:48, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::The names I used as examples are ''not'' identical. Especially considering the English retronym for “Advanced Generation” has nothing to do with Advanced, your point is even weaker--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 23:56, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::::That's not what the AG article says. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:00, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::::First template, first line. Don’t lie.--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:06, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Look, I didn't see that at first. Please be more patient. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:13, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
While I agree with you Grammar Freak that the Best Wishes issue needs to be discussed on the BW page, Best Wishes series is not the English name for that series. I also agree with you that Journeys Series with an epicode of PG001 is warranted, now that we have official English names.
I think that this series ceases to be new within a few weeks of it airing, does it not?
So I think that if this change to eithe rPokemon Journeys the Series or else Journeys Series isn't made by mid June, then I fear that any arguments over what this page should be called are going to be endless, especially if the next series is not a continuation of the Journeys series.
Let's decide what to call this page soon and make this change by at least June 15th or June 20th at the absolute latest. We can't keep this New Series and SS stuff forever lest you be willing to put up with endless arguments.
I will see if there is a thread at the page for [[Talk:Best Wishes series]] and if not, then I'll start one and we can discuss the Black & White series vs. Best Wishes series name there.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 01:07, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

== Wrong Spanish name used (dropped La Serie) ==

The Spanish title has dropped "La Serie" from the title (The Series). You can check it in the official YouTube trailer description: https://youtu.be/lhQxOIPf7-U (¡Comienza a prepararte para una nueva aventura de Ash y Pikachu en Viajes Pokémon!) and also in the official PR https://pokemon.gamespress.com/es/The-Pokemon-Company-International-desvela-el-nuevo-trailer-y-los-detal (Esta apasionante aventura llevará por título Viajes Pokémon.). In other languages, in both examples The Series is still included in the text, so it's only Spanish (and maybe other languages) that Dropped this part of the title. [[User:Josephvb10|Josephvb10]] ([[User talk:Josephvb10|talk]]) 17:57, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
:It's still used in the title of the trailer and [https://www.pokemon.com/es/noticias-pokemon/la-serie-viajes-pokemon-llega-mas-adelante-este-ano/ the official site] as well as the logo in the same way that previous series have, so I don't think it's necessarily changed from past series. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 19:52, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
::Except it's not being used in either the trailer or the official site. As I said, the official trailer doesn't include The Series in the description nor in the logo at the end. And in the official website, the official title which is italicized only includes Viajes Pokémon, not another single word. In contrast, in other languages the italicized part includes The Series. [[User:Josephvb10|Josephvb10]] ([[User talk:Josephvb10|talk]]) 02:13, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

== Time for action on the change ==

Can somebody please tell me what we are waiting for here?
Is this going to be changed to [[Journeys series]] or [[Pokemon Journeys the Series]] or not? I know I said mid June as the latest date, but surely some discussions are still ongoing, there is a consensus that the name needs to change, so what exactly is the waiting for?
You can't justify waiting indefinitely.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 07:39, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
:It's being discussed. Have patience. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:23, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
::There's more to this than just renaming a page you know. There are other issues to be resolved such as Epicodes. A June deadline isn't something you get to determine. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 19:12, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
:::Maybe not Hoenn Master, but indefinitely is not good either. But what is good is the new epicode JN, that works excellently, I like it. [[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 02:57, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
::::We have completed the move from "SS" to "JN" today. The move for the Series will be done at a later date. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 03:24, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::I'm happy to see this move being. How soon can we expect the series article being renamed? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:53, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::Should the rename happen today? [[User:Tag365|Tag365]] ([[User talk:Tag365|talk]]) 21:10, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
I also want to correct HoennMaster97, because I never said that bad things will happen nor am i pretending I have ltimate authority for a June deadline, so I'm not trying to say you must do it by mid June, but what I am saying is that mid June is an ideal deadline at the latest. Key word here is Ideal. Maybe it'll happen in July, maybe August, but I meant to say that June is an ideal later deadline.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 09:10, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

I'd @[[User:Tag365|Tag365]] say move it either today or soon to minimize the amount of articles effected, especially while ep count is relatively low.
The longer we wait the more articles will be effected and the more switchovers will have to be done. That's the ohte rreason why I recommend doing it sooner rather than later, the headache will be lesser.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 21:54, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
:Please do not continue asking when the rename will take place. The rename will take place as soon as the necessary staff members involved are able to have time together to complete the task, which is at some point within the week. We know we all are excited to get the moves completed, but just a little more patience would be greatly appreciated. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 21:59, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Sorry for tryingto help and save you headache while you wait for some Ausie guy to decide what to do. You guys rely on abcboy far way too much, when he lives in a completely different time zone and therefore may not see thigns until day time his time wich is quite a few hours ahead of me here in Eastern Africa, and I'm 8 hours head of Central USA.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 23:29, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
:If you wanna pay me a great wage to work fulltime on the site I'll gladly take you up on it! ^^
:...In the meantime, please respect that people have their own schedules. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:43, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
:If you’re all the way in Eastern Africa, and Abcboy uses Eastern Time, aren't you the one with the “completely different time zone” from Central Time, Vulture? Eastern is much more manageable with Central than any African time zone--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:49, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
::I believe abcboy is in Australia, is he not?
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 01:55, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
:::His profile says he uses Eastern Time, and even his Twitter says he’s in the US. If you’re gonna rant, be accurate with your info.--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 02:01, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Well I'm not up on bulbapedia admins as I only come here some times, mostly when I get notifications.
I go weeks or even months without touching thigns here some times depending on my work schedule I know one of the main dudes in charge is from Australia, one of the ones I'm always told to wait for before changing anything..
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 03:00, 22 May 2020 (UTC)