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== Protection ==
Shouldn't this be protected to prevent vandelism much like the main page is? [[User:Truthseeker4449|Truth]][[User talk:Truthseeker4449|seeker]][[Special:Contributions/Truthseeker4449|4449]] 13:04, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
: It is protected.--[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
::I know it is now, it wasn't when I post the message above. And I stayed up to date on status of the page and thus noticed when it was semi-protected then fully protected. [[User:Truthseeker4449|Truth]][[User talk:Truthseeker4449|seeker]][[Special:Contributions/Truthseeker4449|4449]] 20:30, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
== Tentacool ==

I need help changing one of the type effects of Tentacool over to somewhere else. I am a new member so I don't know how to do all these changes so if someone can help that will be nice.

what needs to be changed is electric needs to be taken out of tentacool's weakness column and put in the regular effect column. if someone can tell me how to do that then that will be nice thanks again.
([[User:Roadmaster84|Roadmaster84]] 23:29, 21 December 2011 (UTC))
:Tentacool is a {{t|Water}}/{{t|Poison}} Pokémon. Water is weak to Electric and Poison is neutral to Electric. Therefore Tentacool is weak to Electric moves and the existing chart is correct. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 23:38, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

== Page Like "Incomplete" for "Bad Picture"? ==

Is there a section for Bad Picture just like there is for [[:Category:Articles needing more information|Incomplete]]? I can't find it anywhere! --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] 00:19, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
:[[:Category:Articles needing better pictures|You mean like this?]] [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 00:23, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
::Cool! Where did you find that link? If it is really hidden and out of the way, I think it should be in the box with the Machop. --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] 00:39, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
:::I don't know what machop you're talking about, but it's in the categories on any page that has that template. In particular, I found it [[Brawly|here]]. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 00:56, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
::::The Machop on the Editor's Hub page! There are three links to get you started improving articles. --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] 01:06, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
:::::Oh, haha, I see. I rarely look at the Editor Hub. Alright, I added it. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:11, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

== Recycle restoring Air Balloon ==

The page [[Recycle]] doesn't mention anything about being able/unable to restore a popped Air Balloon. Shouldn't that be changed? [[User:PC-Reviver|PC-Reviver]] 15:59, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
:No, because a popped Air Balloon is an item that's been consumed, and thus falls under the category of consumed items. - ''signed comment from [[User:BisumitoIsSnazzy|q~Bisumito is Snazzy~p]] ([[User talk:BisumitoIsSnazzy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/BisumitoIsSnazzy|contribs]])'' 20:31, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

== how do i get permission to make pages ==

hi im new and wondering how to make pages [[User:Xspeedx|Xspeedx]] 18:05, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
:You need to make a (top secret) number of edits to the mainspace (i.e. articles) and have had your account for a short (also top secret) length of time. This is done so that you get a chance +to learn our rules and styles before trying to build a page on your own. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:54, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

== I need advice ==

Hi, I saw the Anville town Article and saw the section at the top said you can get to anvillle town using the Anville town line in the battle subway. I was thinking that changing it to the Brown line because it's colour is brown? I'm not sure if i should but please tell me if i'm right! [[User:SkyAltaria1|SkyAltaria1]] 14:16, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
:Perhaps it would be more precise to change it the brown line instead of just saying "Anville line". I don't think there's any harm in changing it. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 15:38, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Ok Thanks :) [[User:SkyAltaria1|SkyAltaria1]] 06:49, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I need advice too. I know of a glitch that is fairly well-known, yet this wiki doesn't have a page for it. I notice that most glitches have their own pages as well as appearing on the List of Glitches section of the Glitch page. However, I don't have permission to make pages yet. Should I just add this glitch to the List of Glitches and hope someone else makes a page for it, or should I request that a page for it be made, or what? [[User:HappyGasGames|HappyGasGames]] ([[User talk:HappyGasGames|talk]]) 17:06, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
:If you have a question on a topic that's glitch related, you should talk to {{u|SnorlaxMonster}}. He's the leader of Project:Glichdex and would probably have the answers you're looking for. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 17:10, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

== Romanization ==
I'm not entirely fond of how Bulbapedia handles their Japanese names for things, primarily how we use the trademarked name and completely ignore the rōmaji. Yes, I think it's important to have the trademarked Japanese names, but I think it's also equally important to have the bare rōmaji, too. I think it would be effective to use the <nowiki>{{tt}}</nowiki> template around the Japanese text itself to show the rōmaji alongside the trademarked name. For example, it would look like this: {{tt|ラルトス|Rarutosu}} ''Ralts'' or {{tt|カメックス|Kamekkusu}} ''Kamex''. Would anyone object to me going around and doing this? [[User:Mitsuru|Mitsuru]] 23:13, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
:[[List of Japanese Pokémon names]]. This does that. I personally do not like the idea for esthetic reasons. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:19, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
::Alright, but it applies to more than just Pokémon themselves. Many pages unrelated to Pokémon suffer the same ([[Snag Machine]], [[N]], etc.). And I disagree; I don't think it's too much of an eyesore, and it's hardly invasive. [[User:Mitsuru|Mitsuru]] 03:06, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

== BW2 Soundtrack ==
Do we need a page for the BW2 soundtrack "Pokémon Black 2 & White 2 Super Music Complete"? I have the CD here and I figured I might as well contribute. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 20:00, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Nobody? No. Okay, you can remove it if you don't like it. It was fun to do anyway. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 00:02, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

== Bulbawiki Festive Frontier? ==

"As outlined on Bulbagarden forums, Bulbapedia is done hosting its second annual Christmas Improvement Drive. The Festive Frontier challenge is now over."

Wasn't the Festive Frontier challenge from last year or was it a few months ago? (Just curious since it is currently up on the page.) --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 02:34, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

== Update? ==

Staff of PokéPark 2 is already made. Don't you think we should take it off the Needed articles section? [[User:YoshisWorld|'''☆ヨッシ''']] [[Special:Contributions/YoshisWorld|'''ー''']] [[User talk:YoshisWorld|'''の世界☆''']] 00:17, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

== Edits ==

How many Edits do I need to do/have to add New Articles?
[[User:Lskitto|Lskitto]] ([[User talk:Lskitto|talk]]) 04:52, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
:It's an secret amount of edits and a secret amount of time that is only known to staff. Keep editing, and you'll eventually be able to start articles. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 04:54, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

== Screenshots ==
How do you get a screenshot of an entire city/route/area in the video games?
[[User:152105|152105]] ([[User talk:152105|talk]]) 20:14, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

== Linking Pages ==

When I put in a link to another page it always comes out as Template:whatever-the-article-name-is and I have no idea why.[[User:Uglycats101|Uglycats101]] ([[User talk:Uglycats101|talk]]) 13:26, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
:<nowiki>It would be because you are using {{ and }} to link instead of [[ and ]] one links to templates the other links to pages.</nowiki> --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 13:41, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
oh thanks so much, it works!!! but how do I get those brackets you used they're not on my keyboard or in the character palette at the bottom of the screen I'm currently using copy and paste to get them in. [[User:Uglycats101|Uglycats101]] ([[User talk:Uglycats101|talk]]) 13:30, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
:What keyboard layout do you have? It would be incredibly unusual for any keyboard to not have those brackets. On a standard QWERTY keyboard, they're immediately to the right of the P key, such that typing this whole row yields <code>QWERTYUIOP[]\</code>. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 17:14, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
oh my gosh, im so dumb, thanks so much for that [[User:Uglycats101|Uglycats101]] ([[User talk:Uglycats101|talk]]) 15:19, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

== Kato and Kiko ==

I need help adding a trivia sentence for Kato and Kiko. I don't want to try and add a new trivia sentence and end up messing up the whole thing for their trivia. Either someone help me or ill just tell you what I want to post so you can do it yourselves:

For Kato's trivia: Kato's hairstyle resembles the horn of his pokemon, Heracross.

For Kiko's trivia: Kiko's hairstyle resembles the wings of her pokemon, Beautifly.

If you can tell me how to post it that would be excellent or if you want to post it yourself that would be just as excellent. If you end up doing it yourself don't add both on one just kato's on Kato's page and Kiko's on Kiko@'s page. I don't mind either way as long as it manages to get posted and i have some credit for it. Thanks. ([[User:RioluMaster1123|RioluMaster1123]] ([[User talk:RioluMaster1123|talk]]) 01:01, 8 June 2013 (UTC))

==Message of the Day==

There are no more featured MotDs. That part of this page should be replaced. [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]] [[User talk:Spyspotter|says…]] Edit the mainspace, [[Special:ListUsers|kids!]] 03:08, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
:I don't see any "Message of the Day" on this page. Unless you mean the Message from the Editor, which should stay and will be updated when there is new information to put there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:28, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
::I mean the featured content. - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Spyspotter}} ([[User talk:Spyspotter|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spyspotter|contribs]]) '' 01:00, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

== Protection of Pokemon X/Y related articles ==

I've been noticing that the admins on this site have been protecting almost all Pokemon X/Y related articles and not allowing normal users due to "Speculation Crackdown" till after October 12. It's kind of harsh because not all normal users registered users on this site are speculators. Some really want to help this site gather information from official sources as the game's release draws closer. [[User:Blueknightex|Blueknightex]] ([[User talk:Blueknightex|talk]]) 09:41, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
:While not all registered users will add speculation, it only takes a handful of users to wreak massive havoc across a wide spread of pages. A lot of XY articles were locked as a reaction to speculation, not as a proactive measure. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:48, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
:Speculation would not be good for bulbapedia's reputation, and I'm sure no-one wants that! Like [[User:Blueknightex|Blueknightex]] said, it only takes a handful of people to wreak havoc with speculations and rumours. --[[User:KyuremDialga101|KyuremDialga101]] ([[User talk:KyuremDialga101|talk]]) 01:11, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

== Article on Ash's Charizard does not need editing ==

I noticed that the article [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ash's_Charizard|Ash's Charizard] was in need of an English voice actor. However, after some heavy research, I found out that the voice actor is the same as the Japanese one. What do I do now? Please help, I just joined!
--[[User:KyuremDialga101|KyuremDialga101]] ([[User talk:KyuremDialga101|talk]]) 01:08, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
:It could refer to Charmander and Charmeleon. They showed up in flashbacks during BW and, while I didn't watch the episode myself, it could be they spoke during the flashbacks, and had different voice actors. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:11, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
::Hi. The voice actor data for Charmander and Charmeleon was present, so it was not referring to them. Currently, the page is showing that for Charizard, the Japanese voice actor did both the Japanese AND the English roles. However, Bulbapedia has named the data as incomplete. Is there anyone I could take my concerns to? Thanks. --[[User:KyuremDialga101|KyuremDialga101]] ([[User talk:KyuremDialga101|talk]]) 01:13, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
:::Charmander and Charmeleon's voice actors on the article are the 4kids actors. During the Advanced Generation the dub was passed on to DuArt. For example, look at [[Ash's Bulbasaur]]. See how it says Tara Jayne for EP010-AG133 then Michele Knotz as current? That's because of the voice actor swap. Since Charmander and Charmeleon appeared in the Best Wishes series, they would have been given new voice actors. Those are the ones that are missing. If you want, you can leave a message on {{u|Kenji-girl}}'s talk page. She's been busy lately so it might take her a while to respond. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:26, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

== Regarding Volcanion, Hoopa and Diancie ==

Should we create pages for them yet? We know they are real, and this sort of thing has been done with other event pokemon like Arceus and Genesect. I have pictures which have been confirmed real that we could put in the articles too.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 01:50, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:We do not know they are real. All we know is that other fansites have circulated rumors about them. We do not take info from other fansites. We are an encyclopedia, not a rumor mill. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:16, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
::I think we know that they're names of potential Pokémon, due to GTS stuff, but that doesn't seem like enough for a page. --[[User:WyndFox|Wynd]] [[User talk:WyndFox|Fox]] 02:36, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:::You can find them in game, GBA Temps has a wild modifier code for them. And the fact that there is already in-game proof (the GTS tests) kind of confirms it's all real. Remember that stuff had been added about previous event 'mons without knowing much about them too.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 05:03, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
::::For those of us who don't know, can you explain what GBA Temps is? And how wild modifier codes work? --[[User:WyndFox|Wynd]] [[User talk:WyndFox|Fox]] 05:27, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::GBA Temps is a website that I imagine distributes cheat codes. Wild modifiers work by simply changeing the pokemon that normally appear in an area to the one specified in the cheat code, as it temporarily alters the game's code. Say, if you put an identifier of 001 in there you would find bulbasaur for example. EDIT: Wait, wrong place, it ws a different guy who made the modifier, GBA Temps made a .pkx editor that could also be used to get the pokemon in game, if anyone wants to test and see, I have a link [http://gbatemp.net/threads/pkx-editor-by-codemonkey85.356901]/--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 05:40, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::Serebii has just confirmed the existence of Diancie, Hoopa, Volcanion, Mega [[Latios]] and Mega [[Latias]] as possible event Pokémon with pictures associated. --[[User:Wolfy Harfleur 76700|Wolfy Harfleur 76700]] ([[User talk:Wolfy Harfleur 76700|talk]]) 10:35, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Joe literally wrote in his news story on serebii "Do note, these are still unconfirmed." ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 14:41, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
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It seems people have forgotten that this site is, above all else, an ''encyclopedia''. I've seen some wikis have speculative articles and then have some tag at the top of the page saying "This is unconfirmed, yada yada yada." That's extremely unprofessional, and it makes way for a truck load of spam articles under the guise of being "unconfirmed". A good wiki, Bulbapedia included, uses the agenda of official confirmation being ''absolutely crucial''. As much as it may seem, at the current moment, that these three Pokémon and the Mega-Eons are as real as real can get, leaked information is the exact opposite of confirmed information. Even Serebii's no fool. He's not going around asserting that everything he finds is fact. As Nate even said, the words "Do note, these are still unconfirmed" are used on his site. Besides, it's god-honestly better to ''not'' have the information until it's confirmed than to have guesswork that turns out to be wrong. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 15:29, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:correct me if I am wrong but didn't bulbapedia treat meloetta, keldeo and genesect as real pokemon before they were officialy confirmed? It doesn't seem any different here. [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 15:46, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
::The problem is that we could still access the game data to be able to confirm it. We cannot access the game data this time around, which is why we still do not have a lot of images of the Generation VI stuff. Unless we can find data on the PGL to confirm this, we have to treat it like false info until we have proof it is true. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 17:15, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:::In which you can use the hacks to get the pokemon to put into the PGL to prove they're real.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 21:28, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
::::You cannot put Pokémon into the PGL, that was only Dream World, which only works for Generation V games. Not to mention that the Pokémon shown could be dummied out Pokémon left on the cart. We will need to wait for proof, whether it is from files on the PGL or some info from Nintendo. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 21:44, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::How would one get this info from the PGL? Like people got all the DW art and stuff didn't they? And also I'm quite sure they wouldn't leave dummy 'mons in the game, they would have been replaced with Bad Eggs.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 21:48, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::Files. Every website that uses pictures needs to reference the picture in the website. Thus, most pictures are hosted in the same server as the website itself. Basically, if the images are added to the server, we just need to peek into the server's files and see what is there, which is how we got the other files. As for the other part, why are there two Vivillon patterns in the game that no one has obtained? We don't know what GF has done or will do with them. They could be available or they could be dummied out, though they still seem to exist for the moment as dummied out data. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 23:44, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Hmmm, perhaps they don't plan on adding the picture files until they're officially revealed. After all, I don't think they added the picture files into the PGL for Keldeo, Meloetta and Genesect until they were revealed, did they?--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 00:49, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
{{indent}} Back on the "dummied out content" thing, yes, there's plenty of dummied out content left in the game's code among all of the older games. Bulbapedia has pages specifically on said content. I can't say I'd be too surprised to find out that some species ended up in this genre. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 02:31, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
:On the topic of PGL files, there are two placeholder Vivillon patterns (which are the same as the default pattern), indicating that there are likely to be 2 more Vivillon patterns (matching the leak). The Mythical Pokémon do not appear on the PGL currently. Mega Evolutions all have placeholder artworks (it's just a copy of the Pokémon's standard artwork), and currently there is no placeholder for Mega Latios or Latias. Chances are things that aren't currently there will be added at a later time. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:10, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
While the chance is there that they could be fake ([http://pokejungle.net/2013/10/31/rumour-legends-leaked-by-hacking/ this page even says so]), the fact that this person was able to cause the three legendaries to appear in one of the early Routes pretty much confirms they are real. If those are Photoshopped images, they're pretty good. Additionally, seeing them on the GTS and not filtered out as gibberish also confirms that they are real. The person writing the linked blog, as well, noted that he tried to encounter Pokémon #722 (meaning these came from 719-721) and the result was a Bad Egg, meaning there is nothing programmed after 721 and that is the end of the current Pokédex.

We ought to acknowledge this information. People have tested and confirmed that the data is there. Serebii even briefly had pages for the trio (since taken down, someone put up a screenshot of the three screengrabs as an image). Nintendo just hasn't released the info because they want to leave something for future announcements and events. Since they're already in the game, other than patching to get rid of them, Nintendo can't do much now to change it (and then what will they use for later games, and who says we have to use the patch? I mean, they can't get rid of this data in the games now!). Therefore, they exist, they just haven't been announced. Pages ought to be created even if they are tagged as unconfirmed Pokémon. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 18:32, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
:If you had been paying attention, no one is immediately saying they're faked or photoshopped. But what we ''are'' saying is they may very well be dummied out content. And again, as far as a wiki is concerned, if information is not 100% confirmed, it might as well be 100% fake. Bulbapedia has a reputation to keep, and if things that end up being utter bull get articles only for us to find out the truth later, how will that make the site look? And even if they are really there, they ''can'' indeed be patched out. That's what patches do. If someone who got, say, one of these "Volcanions" ends up losing data and having their save corrupted because it was patched out, well then that's their own fault. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 19:03, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
::Yes, I'm paying attention. Here's the thing: if they are dummied out, that makes them notable just for that and they deserve to be recognized as deleted Pokémon. Except perhaps for MissingNo, this would be the first case of this, no? That's notable, and what would be their page as real Pokémon can then be redirected to an article on the deleted trio. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 20:04, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
:::Just thought I'd also mention that if they were dummied out, it is highly unlikely they'd leave all the following data in and have it make sense- Pokedex Entries, Typing, Movesets, Graphical Data, Base Stats. Just a thought--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 01:56, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
::::Exactly. There are way too many dots to connect here that there's no way this is fake. I'm 99% certain at this point that all three of them are the Keldeo, Meloetta, and Genesect of this generation and we will have all three released by the time of either Hoenn remakes or Z (whichever is first). I'd gamble on it if I could. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 02:18, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::(edit conflict) We don't know any of that (except the graphical data) even exists. All we have are a single screenshot of each of them. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:19, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::What do you want him to do, take a video of him encountering and catching them, then showing off the Dex entries? [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 02:45, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
There's another test we could use to see if this is genuine, the guy who found them also managed to get screenshots of pixie plate arceus and Mew in the game, if the sprites match when Transporter is out we'll know that he truly hacked the game. pics on this twitter: https://twitter.com/PokmonGlobalNew [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] ([[User talk:Jmvb|talk]]) 11:34, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
::Replying to 0danmaster0 here, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Genesect_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&oldid=1188433 linked here] is the original draft of [[Genesect (Pokémon)]] from September 18, 2010. It got several more edits that day and the following days. Do we have information on exactly when Nintendo announced Genesect? I know it wasn't released until B2/W2 were released; that very day, in fact. That's two years. I doubt they announced it two years in advance.

::My point? We were posting an article about Genesect two years ahead of time. What would be different about an article on Hoopa since it has been found in the game? [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 16:10, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
:::Yes, but we had proof Genesect existed because we could hack the DS and get the data out. We still don't know these three aren't a hoax, because we still don't fully know how to hack the 3DS. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:19, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
::::Evidently this guy does know how to hack the 3DS. That's the same thing. I could have said Genesect was a hoax back then myself because I am not a hacker. Same argument. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 16:38, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::The difference is that when lots of people could do it, it was clearer that Keldeo, Meloetta and Genesect were real because so many independent sources were backing each other up. Currently, (as far as I know,) there's only this one guy "proving" these three, so we have no idea whether he's a good hacker or just a good counterfeiter. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:44, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::Pumpkinking has hit the nail on the head. The bottom line is if we can't replicate the results to verify, a random on the internet is nothing more than a dubious source. We can't repeat or verify those results. Therefore, they get no article. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 19:21, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::I still point out the fact that the names appear on the GTS. That validates them as real Pokémon. I will admit that the images could still be shopped (some are pretty good even of those), but the Pokémon names are real. If Nintendo patches them out after this independent crusade (for lack of a better word), then the article could be about what the names of the Pokémon would have been and were changed due to a hacker. A hacker causing Nintendo to change plans is notable. So one way or another, whether now or after news comes of a new patch that removes the names (impossible on the GTS though unless they close it briefly and remove all requests), an article will exist somewhere on either the Pokémon or the schematics surrounding them being changed (even when the trio does eventually come out with similar types and the would-be names are matched up). I still see no problem with very brief and locked pieces on the three and what has been discovered, with a byline at the top saying the information is unconfirmed. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 19:26, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::::Just thought I'd mention that we have Diancie's dex entry too. Kotaku said it, not sure if it's a reliable source though.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 00:52, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::''The bottom line is if we can't replicate the results to verify, a random on the internet is nothing more than a dubious source.''
:::::::::That's funny. Someone earlier said that the reason the article doesn't exist is because Nintendo hasn't announced it. However, Nintendo hadn't announced Keldeo, Meloetta, or Genesect and those articles came up with "multiple independent sources".
:::::::::We now have "multiple independent sources" confirming these three new Pokémon showing up as valid in the GTS by people requesting other than themselves, which is backed up by hacked data confirming their existance and with images (though again, I prefer video). Sersbii had pages up brifly, since taken down. This is exactly the scenario we had with the Unova group, just not as many sources. Yet now the rules are different because it's more convenient to wait for Nintendo to announce it before putting pages up.
:::::::::We need to stop changing the rules in convenient ways for a situation and just report what people have found out already. Wikipedia uses references as a method of sourcing ANY information. We have several sources, even if one main one is a blog and others are forums. That's enough for me for a video game (we're not sourcing nuclear fission or anything like that). If it turns out not to be real, we correct it. That's what a Wiki does. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 03:47, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::You're wrong with the part about "exactly the same scenario". As already said above, the key difference is being able to replicate the results; that is, unlike with DS games, the encryption for 3DS games is still yet to be broken so data mining is outright impossible. You can't make a ROM dump out of your X or Y game card, break in, and check the Pokémon specification data structures yourself. Instead, for anything other than the names, you need to rely on and believe the authenticity of the few still images by one community member. For the same reasons, we're still missing various things like complete movesets for many Pokémon, all up-to-date data for yet unavailable Gen I to Gen V Pokémon, and so on.
::::::::::Don't get me wrong, I personally don't have any objections for adding the trio into the wiki, but it seems that for now the only thing that can be proven with certainty is that the three names exist and are recognized by GTS as valid ones. That doesn't really yield good, comprehensive pages at this moment, so I understand why they're quite unwanted for now. '''Soulweaver''' (U.S.) ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 04:15, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::Perhaps someone should ask smea to supply the necessary information by his twitter account, after all HE is the one with this information. We know the pokemon exist, we don't officially know their appearance until we get solid proof, and everything else falls under the former category. If he could give us a video showing us exactly what he is doing, showing us the dex entries and types ''at least'', we might actually get somewhere. Same could go for the other discoveries too.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 05:22, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::: I have a feeling that they won't since they have apologized for spoiling the Pokémon already. Little hope on that route. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:27, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::: As for the other side of the problem, I am confused now with the issue. We know the Pokémon exist. We have proof that they exist. We can replicate the data, though not in the conventional way. We can even data mine the games to confirm it through a modified 3DS that bypasses the encryption issue, which is currently being done to determine how the game stores the data structure for individual Pokémon. The problem we have is over if the three Pokémon are actual Legendary Pokémon that exist in the game or if these are just dummied out Legendary Pokémon that Nintendo and Game Freak thought would be alright to leave on the cart without removing their existence. We cannot confirm that they are event Pokémon, so we cannot add them as articles at the moment. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:27, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::::I will concede that individual articles would not have a lot of information right now (heck, [[Xerneas (Pokémon)]] and [[Yveltal (Pokémon)]] were once like that even when they were announced). However, even if staunch "it's not official" people around here don't want to allow articles, we do need at least one: an article talking about the three and how they were discovered. I point out once again that the three are not being confirmed, the data is simply being reported on.
:::::::::::::and he apologized for "spoiling the Pokémon"? Some of us want to know everything, spoiler or not. I really want to see a video of these. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 16:22, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:(Resetting indent) What I don't get is why some people seem to be convinced they are dummied out when they are under the same circumstances as last gen's event pokemon. If they were dunnied out, they would leave all that important info in there. {{unsigned|BigBadBatter}}
::Because the data for the two other Vivillion is present in the games, but cannot be access without a modified 3DS. This is similar to past data, like ???-type Arceus. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 23:59, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:::Good point, but remember that was only in there to stop crashes, it was never meant to exist within the "actual" game--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 00:39, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
::::My guess? Those two Vivillon will be in the next games and can be traded into these ones. How? I don't have a guess on that yet, but maybe they are east and west like the Shellos. In that case, west (North America and possibly Europe) would get one, and east (yeah, beyond Europe, Africa included perhaps) would get the other. That would be consistent with the patterns based on your 3DS region bit. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 07:56, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
{{indent}} I think it's about time this topic be left alone and not touched again. ''Multiple'' staff members already said these three aren't getting articles until there is enough evidence to prove that they are absolutely and indisputably real, so let's leave it at that, shall we? [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 16:42, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
:I think the debate is not that they aren't real. It's about whether they should have articles without Nintendo confirmation. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 17:05, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
::Regardless, at least three staff members have all said they are not and have given a multitude of reasons. I don't even see why people are still arguing. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|Speak to me]]|[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|What I've done]]) 17:12, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
:::Yeah, let's leave it for now. Apparently the offical facebook page made a random post about carbink, so we may see some interesting stuff...--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 23:00, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
::::The official japanese guide confirmed that there are 721 Pokémon[http://i.imgur.com/2QH3kPl.png] [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 12:36, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::Now this is interesting. More confirmation much?--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 22:47, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::Here's the thing. We ''do not'' report on or make articles for information that we cannot confirm ourselves. The person who discovered these did so through a method we cannot replicate. There may be three hidden legendaries, but we cannot confirm that these three are them. The difference between these and previous event legends is the fact we could view the game's code and confirm it ''ourselves''. So, to put it bluntly, until these are confirmed by Nintendo or a widespread method to view the game's code is available, these Pokemon will get ''no article''. No amount of arguing is going to change that. This discussion is serving no purpose whatsoever and should be done. If you want to discuss these rumored legendaries, you should take it the forums. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 22:56, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
they are real. no doubt. they are unannounced, there fore un obtainable, there fore unmarked. they WILL be made, and this guy did officialy find volcanion. there was also a leaked article on pokemon.com, quickly removed, for diancle. just make the pages, and delete them if need be. I will be watching for them in the new year, when I expect them to be announced, after torchic. and also, regarding pixie arcius and mew in x/y, they were added in the 1.1 patch which also allowed all pokemon to be added to the dex via pokebank. so In adding the pokebank, 1.1 had more than it seemed. prove me wrong, but I want evidence I am wrong. I know Nintendo, and this is legit. make the pages. I will cover the story. EDIT- while poking on serebii to take notes, I saw that they have a classification. I don't know if I can put them here, but am doing so any ways. :diancie the jewel pokemon, volcanion the steam pokemon, and hoopa the mischief pokemon. have I blown your mind??? proves their real! {{unsigned|Dra9onslayer}}

What height and weight could it be for the three event Pokémon, what body style do they have and what colour category do they have? [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ([[User talk:Cinday123|talk]]) 07:04, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
:Look, let's just leave it for now, as we don't have the tools to hack the game and find out for ourselves. Therefore, we cannot make the pages.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 23:50, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

I know staff members said don't put them up, and I'm not arguing that (that's a good policy, even if we can get into the game). I'm just wondering why people say it isn't the same as before. Because of course Darkrai could have been dummied out back in Gen IV, but now we know it wasn't. Just curious, is all, as that seems to be the big argument (Once again, I agree with the policy of not putting up the page until Gamefreak confirms, because of the risk of it being dummied out. Makes sense) --[[User:Shadowater|Shadowater]] ([[User talk:Shadowater|talk]]) 00:23, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
:The difference is that even if Darkrai, etc had been dummied out, we could hack the game so we still knew all of its data. We can't hack the 3DS, so none of the leaks about these three (except for their names on the GTS) are verifiable. We don't know whether the images floating around are legit or a clever Photoshop; we don't know whether the type combinations are true; we don't even know what order their National Dex numbers are in{{tt|*|and sources conflict on this last point — a pretty good sign that at least some of the other information is unreliable as well}}. There's literally nothing we can say in good conscience except "these are their names," whereas in the past, we could hack the game and reliably report every single piece of data for event-exclusives on the DS and prior systems. (That's my standpoint. I think this is a much more persuasive reason not to acknowledge them yet than the "what if they end up being dummied out" argument.) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 01:40, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
::Mostly quoting myself from above, "We know the Pokémon exist. We have proof that they exist. We can replicate the data, though not in the conventional way. We can even data mine the games to confirm it through a modified 3DS that bypasses the encryption issue, which is currently being done to determine how the game stores the data structure for individual Pokémon. The problem we have is over if the three Pokémon are actual Legendary Pokémon that exist in the game or if these are just dummied out Legendary Pokémon that Nintendo and Game Freak thought would be alright to leave on the cart without removing their existence. We cannot confirm that they are event Pokémon, so we cannot add them as articles at the moment." Remember that there is still data on the game for two more Vivillion forms that the Global Links files confirm. The problem is that this data, while present in the games, cannot be access without a modified 3DS. In Generation IV, we had data for the ???-type Arceus, which was never released for good reasons. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 05:10, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

I figure now is a good time to resurrect this discussion now that [http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/60943/t1957245-hoopa-volcanion-diancies-leaked-stats-abilities-types/ more evidence] has appeared from what appears to be a separate source, corroborating with leaks we've [http://www.pokedit.com/New+Legendaries+Diancie+Volcanion+Hoopa_8016.html already] [http://pokebeach.com/2013/12/information-on-diancie-hoopa-and-volcanion seen]. Dummied out or not, it appears what we've seen before was indeed correct. I also don't know if this was mentioned, but the PokEdit link also seems to have official Sugimori art, the two missing Vivillon patterns, and a model of AZ's Floette. This is getting harder and harder to call fake, if you ask me. [[User:VinLAURiA|VinLAURiA]] ([[User talk:VinLAURiA|talk]]) 18:05, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
:The artwork is fake, in case you were wondering: [http://xous54.deviantart.com/art/Diancie-410875572 Diancie], [http://xous54.deviantart.com/art/Volcanion-410762745 Volcanion], and [http://xous54.deviantart.com/art/Hoopa-410943259 Hoopa]. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 18:38, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Bulbapedia_talk:Editor%27s_Hub&diff=prev&oldid=2047544 Again, this is my response on the issue.] I still say that we should take the time to wait and see what GF will do. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 06:16, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Diancie was unveiled on CoroCoro, but I bet you Bulbapedians are going to say that even if it's not a fake, we can't say the same for the other two (and Mega Lati@s). Am I right? [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 21:18, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
:Fake is not the issue, but yes, that's exactly right. Diancie does not confirm anything else from leaks. We wait for official sources regardless of whether the leaks appear to be true. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:21, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
::I suppose that we should probably make a start on the page, shall we? --[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 21:40, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
:::{{u|Force Fire}} already [[User:Force Fire/Diancie (Pokémon)|has]]. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 21:52, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
:::Ah yes. I was wondering because the link in the Bulbanews article had no text on it.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 22:48, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
::With all due respect, I think that's completely unreasonable. If fake isn't the issue, then I fail to see what could be. Even if the other two ''were'' [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DummiedOut dummied out], there's no reasonable doubt left that these guys aren't still on the game card and with all the glitch Pokémon we document that have never been officially acknowledged, shouldn't we at least put in a word about how the other two exist but aren't officially revealed yet? Look, think of this from a practical standpoint: the circumstances have changed. Diancie's been officially announced and yet most of the data out there when you Google it (as people are bound to do now) are gonna come up with Hoopa and Volcanion along with it. And when they to go look it up on Bulbapedia, they'll find info on one of the three while the other two are still not even acknowledged to exist. What, are we just gonna play dumb and not confirm or deny anything still? I know to assume good faith and all that jazz, but I think Bulbapedia's official stance on this at the moment reeks of stubbornness for no good reason. At the very least, acknowledge the controversy around the matter with an administrative announcement or something instead of keeping everything in talk pages. At least make our stance on these three visible, rather than not even telling people ''why'' the other two aren't listed unless they go looking in the right places. [[User:VinLAURiA|VinLAURiA]] ([[User talk:VinLAURiA|talk]]) 17:24, 14 February 2014 (UTC) (Note for transparency's sake: I'm an [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Inclusionism inclusionist].)
:::Unfortunately, policy is policy, and unless we have more people hacking the 3DS, we won't get pages 'til the official reveal. If you'd like to hack the 3DS to prove a point, I believe Smea did it by running homebrew and pokemon Y at the same time, allowing him to see the game's code, developed wild modifier cheat codes, making the event 'mons appear.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 23:09, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHBc6RtW9y0#t=24]

someone recorded the mega lati duo in action. i think they are at least worth a mention now. hoopa and volcanion's articles can wait until similar footage appears. --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 16:12, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

::mega lati twins are out in the wild, although in an "Arceus/Genesect" manner rather than "nintendooo confirmdd" way. seeing as its arceus all over again, we should definetly mention the megas on their respective pages, there is nothing denying their exstince now. [[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 21:03, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
:::Datel has released a cheating device that can be used with X and Y. I think it's pretty safe to say that once some Bulbapedians get it and use it to get the Mega Lati twins and the event pokemon, these guys will be getting pages once we get the appropriate info. --[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 21:38, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
::::why do we need a bulbapedian to confirm? undisputable ecidence of at least the mega latis is sitting right in front of us. --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 21:54, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::Read the rest of the discussion.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 01:00, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

::::::i did its just people screaming at each othrr. we have undisputable proof of at least the lati duo's megas existing and the two legends in limbo are probably are just an ar code away, so why are we still saying "durr 50/50 chance of being real" and not adding this? we did it with arceus and genesect, so why ar the mega latis different?--[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 04:54, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

(resetting indent)OK, so now that we got the addition of Mega Latios and Mega Latias on the Megas page (the other relevant pages are locked unfortunately) , I'm pretty sure that this should be settled once and for all. We have indisputable evidence that Volcanion and Hoopa exist (thank you Datel), can we please make pages for them now? --[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 22:29, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
::i'm working on a draft of Hoopa's page right now. do we know whether or not the leak regarding the event trio's signature moves is true? --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 23:06, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
:::I imagine it is, but there is only one source at the moment.----[[User:BigBadBatter|Big]][[User talk:BigBadBatter|Bad]][[User:BigBadBatter|Batter]] 01:02, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
::::If you can't confirm something yourself, assume it's false until you can confirm it. That way there's no chance we're left with egg on our face. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:16, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::That's what I thought. We'll just have to wait 'til someone reliable gets the event 'mons then.----[[User:BigBadBatter|Big]][[User talk:BigBadBatter|Bad]][[User:BigBadBatter|Batter]] 03:59, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
::::::Okay, someone with a powersave has confirmed with a video that Diancie's signature move is Diamond Storm, it's a physical rock-type move, with 95 acc, 100 power and chance to boost defense, here are two videos [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF8lu7R-7Tg][http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLWExiyWuQQ]----[[User:BigBadBatter|Big]][[User talk:BigBadBatter|Bad]][[User:BigBadBatter|Batter]] 21:33, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Seeing as how Diancie has been officially revealed, as have the Poké Ball and Fancy Pattern Vivillon, can we know include Hoopa and Volcanion on Bulbapedia? Fairy-type Arceus was also confirmed true and Mega Lati@s has been added to the Mega Evolutions page. I can assume AZ's Floette will be released later as well, since there's also an event for that, but this is just about Volcanion and Hoopa. --[[User:BlackButterfree|BlackButterfree]] ([[User talk:BlackButterfree|talk]]) 23:55, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
:The key word being "officially revealed", which Hoopa and Volcanion haven't been. So no.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:46, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
::Neither have Mega Lati@s, which are featured quite prominently in the Mega Evolution page... --[[User:BlackButterfree|BlackButterfree]] ([[User talk:BlackButterfree|talk]]) 05:00, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
:::Mega Lati@s was added because a staff member was able to confirm the existence of the Lati@site via a device. Because they were able to confirm the Lati@site, Mega Lati@s are on the Mega Evolution page. While I don't really like that they are on the page, a staff member confirming the existence of the mega stone is satisfactory for me.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:49, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
:::::Well for me, satisfactory is YouTuber upon YouTuber showing video footage of them activating the Hoopa, Diancie, Volcanion and AZ's Floette events, which is exactly what's happened since around the time Diancie has been officially announced. I mean, it can't be that hard to find someone with a PowerSave and get them to activate the events in the presence of a Staff Member. This isn't 1996. --[[User:BlackButterfree|BlackButterfree]] ([[User talk:BlackButterfree|talk]]) 01:28, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
::::::I think this Hoopa and Volcanion situation is of the utmost importance. There has been multiple sources confirming without a show of a doubt the existence of both of them. I dont remember Arceus, Genosect, Meloetta, etc not being added before it was officially revealed by Nintendo. Saying that there's no way to check doesnt apply on this date. There's already documented tools to activate the event. For anyone that wants to check for themselves the tool you need is Datel Power Saves, which is available on Amazon and other online stores. [[User:Epsilonsama|Epsilonsama]] ([[User talk:Epsilonsama|talk]]) 19:34, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Whilst I completely understand that Volcanion and Hoopa remain unofficial, and whilst I agree that we should not pass them of as we would any other Pokémon due to the insufficient amount of data that has been able to be retrieved from the X and Y games, would it not be reasonable to have maybe a single article on both, and possibly the now-confirmed Diancie as well, stating that their names are recognised by the GTS, and that they have therefore been coded into the games in one way or another. Obviously we cannot pass off much other information about them, as there is very little of it that can truly be confirmed as official, however, a single short mention that the names of the Pokémon are coded into the games should suffice for the article. The names exist in the GTS without a doubt, in fact, that was how I first found out about them very early in the game when I went on to the GTS and saw someone requesting a Hoopa. The way I look at it, whether or not they are patched out of the game, never used/talked about again, swept under the carpet by Nintendo, or released as official Pokémon, we will eventually end up with an article about them, will we not? We currently have articles for unused prototype Pokémon such as Honōguma, Buhi, and Kurusu, and on backsprites for the early Shellos and Gastrodon from the coding of Ruby and Sapphire. Hoopa and Volcanion will essentially end up with their own pages, on a new page for patched out Pokémon, or on the page for prototype Pokémon. So, as little confirmed information on them as there is, surely it's noteworthy enough to at least acknwoledge them as sort-of-maybe-Pokémon-to-be that we know officially a little bit about, after all the GTS does recognise them as something, and if the GTS acknowledges them, then why shouldn't we? I understand that we know little about them, and the last thing I want to do is fuel a massive debate, but I think they at least deserve a little mention, no matter how ambiguous, somewhere rather than "What Pokémon? Huh? Who? Where? There's no Pokémon here!".--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 01:55, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
:[[Diancie|Diancie has an article already.]] As for the second issue, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Bulbapedia_talk:Editor%27s_Hub&diff=prev&oldid=2001611 you can see it has been talked about for a long, long time.] So, since this still has not been settled for everyone, I will try to sum up what we have and do not have, among other things. This debate has centered around the following Pokémon: Diancie, Hoopa, Volcanion, Mega Latios, Mega Latias, two Vivillon forms, one Floette form, and one Plate Arceus. Here is how things have been sorted: Diancie has an article, Mega Latios and Mega Latias have the information on several articles, Vivillon forms have been distributed, Floette is AZ's, Arceus can be transfered to Gen VI, and nothing for Hoopa and Volcanion. So, why not create the articles? Because they have not been [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ghost_(type)&diff=prev&oldid=2141974 officially released yet]. Granted, I am paraphrasing [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] and potentially taking their words out of context. On the opposite side of this [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AEon_duo&diff=2078959&oldid=2078846 is how the Mega Latios/Latias info was given approval.] Again, I am linking to [[User:SnorlaxMonster]] has said in the past and about a different issue that may not apply. I would have recommend asking if Hoopa and Volcanion could be added to the [[List of Pokémon by index number (Generation VI)]], which is the [[Index number]] counterpart to the [[List of items by index number (Generation VI)|items]], [[List of moves|moves]], [[List of locations by index number (Generation VI)|location]], and [[Ability#List of Abilities|ability]] articles. However, the article has not currently be created at this point in time, so I do not believe I can recommend that action. Regardless of not being able to help, I hope that this somehow explains why we are not making that many references to them or their moves. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 03:38, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

I will attempt to make the pages but ill be going on vacation soon.

[[User:AQUAAA|AQUAAA]] ([[User talk:AQUAAA|talk]]) 17:07, 17 December 2014 (UTC)AQUAAA

Oh yeah, Steam Eruption And Hyperspace hole are real moves.

[[User:AQUAAA|AQUAAA]] ([[User talk:AQUAAA|talk]]) 17:09, 17 December 2014 (UTC)AQUAAA

Do anyone have Kana for their species name? --[[User:ShadowCrush|ShadowCrush]] ([[User talk:ShadowCrush|talk]]) 22:55, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

--[[User:AQUAAA|AQUAAA]] ([[User talk:AQUAAA|talk]]) 16:57, 31 January 2015 (UTC) Bulbagarden has a page on all 3, but not the signature moves.

== Editing of [[Headbutt (move)|Headbutt]] ==

Basically, I just went to add that Bibarel is confirmed to learn the move at Lv.18 (no idea about the pre-evo yet, but I trust it's also the same). It seems that I am unable to save edits to that page. Do we know what is causing this? I just edited [[Acupressure (move)|Acupressure]] without a problem a few minutes ago. Meanwhile, I tried the chat room, but it's more interested in a bot trivia game (now over 1,300 questions in!) and the other official channel is - well - dead. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 19:40, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
:I tried to edit it and it didn't go through. Maybe it's the amount of templates on the page? It's the only thing that really sets apart enough from other moves for it to be the only one to be uneditable. I'll see if someone can figure it out. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 20:21, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
::Well, if any of them are complete, some could perhaps be converted to generic tables and left in like that (if they get vandalized, they can easily be restored). That might help with that issue. But then, I wondered why the learnset table was so far down. Clearly trying to include Headbutt as it applies to G/S/C. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 20:41, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
:::Pages with lots of code transcluded to them, such as the code used in the template, exceed the maximum amount of code able to be used on a MediaWiki page. This limit is unable to be changed. The Headbutt page seems to be just before that limit. The page can be saved, it just takes a huge amount of time and a few attempts. But, any longer, and parts of the page will seemingly go missing, starting from the bottom up. We had a similarly large page on Wikisimpsons. We ended up needing to split the page up into several pages as huge tables of information just vanished. That might have to be done here too. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 20:48, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
::::If you'd like, I can take a look at it between assigning moves. I think provided the main page has the same types of data as the rest of the moves, it should be easy to move other data to a secondary page that doesn't need much editing. Also, if I cut the information off the existing one and save, I should have no problem saving less data.
::::With that said, if you'd rather do it later, understood. But it keeps me and others from adding data to it until it's done, hence why I'd like to look at it. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 20:53, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

(Indent reset, any replies to the above can continue there, this is a separate segment.)

I have copied from [[Headbutt (move)|Headbutt]] the data that I think can be removed from the page. What I will suggest is taking this off the page and having it linked separately on the page. This will bring the page data down to a more useable level that saving issues will hopefully be reduced. The current location of the copied data is [[User:CycloneGU/Headbutt|in my userspace]]. I'm open to working on the piece there and then moving it to the article space when it's ready for inclusion as a separate page. Or we can move it immediately and work on it already linked from the main page. What do you folks think? [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 21:03, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
:I think wait for input from admins before anything major is done to the page. Although the only way I can see the page being editable again is by splitting it up in my expert opinion (expert as I've encountered this issue before :P) ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 21:05, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
::This is why I have already copied the data separately to my userspace. That way an admin. can move it to an appropriate title, the data removed from [[Headbutt (move)|Headbutt]], and the link made between the articles. I agree, this issue was encountered six or seven months ago by someone on that talk page, and we can't deal with this over and over. We might even need to reduce the size of some of the lists at the bottom of the page by indicating all Pokémon in the previous list are also on the following list, and just not list them; however, that is a more drastic change I won't explore at this time. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 21:10, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
::I just had a separate afterthought as well (hence the almost immediate new edit, this is not a preview issue). The list of Pokémon learning the move by TM can be included on the second article. It only applies to the second generation (for now) and we can remove it from the main article, again to save space. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 21:12, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
::(Addendum) I have copied the TM information to my userspace. Again, no edits have been made to the main page yet, and I'd like to help work on a separate article regarding Headbutt and the mechanics as used in Generations II and IV in G/S/C/HG/SS (hence why it's in my userspace right now, but I'm open to it being moved to the main space if admins. approve the idea). The obvious alternative is to not be able to edit the main page or have data go missing; this at least preserves the data. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 21:21, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
:::For the record, I think it would be more appropriate to move the lists of Pokemon that can be found via Headbutt. Learnlists should all remain together, but we do have [[Hidden Power calculation|precedent]] for moving lengthy material about how a move works to a separate page rather than keeping it on the same one. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:34, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
::::For the sake of full disclosure, I also [[User talk:Force Fire#Headbutt|brought this up]] with one of the admins. personally. Because Headbutt was only a TM in Generation II (replacing [[Razor Wind (move)|Razor Wind]] but since becoming [[Dragon Claw (move)|Dragon Claw]] in Gen. III, which has not changed since), and was likely made such for the specific reason of allowing players to buy the TM for repeated use teaching Pokémon the move to attack random trees, I have made the recommendation that the TM move data be placed there for that reason. I've provided additional points at the linked location.
::::The TM section alone is 11,000 bytes of data, and with the page causing problems due to being so large, any space we can get would be useful at this point. If it is deemed after staff discussion that it should stay there, I would recommend putting the data on a page by itself and transcluding the data to the page. This could technically be done on both pages, in fact, since the data specifically applies to that game where the mechanic occurs. That way, the string putting the data on one or both pages is a simple string, and the data is its own page.
::::For examples of how transclusion works, head over to Wikipedia and see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013%E2%80%9314_NHL_season 2013-14 NHL season], specifically under Standings. All four charts there are located on other pages and edited on those pages due to the daily updating on each compared to the article itself. This way, people editing the standings and people editing the rest of the article aren't running into constant edit conflicts. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 06:04, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
::::UPDATE: Again, for full disclosure, see [[User:CycloneGU/Headbutt]] for how I'm proposing to reclaim the space on the page. I don't know if this is ideal for the staff, but the data I am recommending to transclude in this case should never have to be edited again, so the data page can be locked and the importing line in the article commented above and below warning not to modify that line. Of course, the data page would be moved first, hence why it's still a proposal. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 06:31, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::I've split the wild Pokémon only off into [[Headbutt (move)/Wild Pokémon]], as this needed to be fixed swiftly, since it was preventing editing of the page altogether. If you think the scope of the subpage should be different, please bring that up on its talk page. I'm not even that sure we need these lists (for HGSS, since Pokémon encountered are dependent on area rather than what category of area it is), but they can't stay on the Headbutt page. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:02, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::I still can't save edits to a segment of the page. I still propose, since the TM data should never be edited, doing the same thing there by moving the page in my usersdpace and linking that there. Unless it's just a case of the cache needing to be dumped, in which case it may work after that's done. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 07:07, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::It certainly can be edited now, because my edit moving the wild Pokémon lists off the page went through. And if the issue is being unable to save a specific section, it is unlikely to be due to the number of templates; in fact, IIRC you can still edit sections of a page that is too big to save. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:16, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::::As for keeping the TM list on the page, it has less to do with editing than it does with reading. A major reason people go to move pages is to see what can learn it (I would assume), and I don't want to split up learnlists across multiple pages. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:18, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::Re TMs: did you see the page I created in my userspace? No, that's not the layout I propose, but I basically copied the TM data as it currently appears to a separate document, which allows the header to still be edited (I grabbed after the header up to the next header, for the next table).
:::::::::Re editing Headbutt, it FINALLY went through. so I'm satisfied with it now. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 07:20, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

== Wild Hold Items ==

I've been a member for about ten minutes and I probably have no chance of anyone seeing this... but how about a page that states the Pokemon that hold certain items in the wild including the item and the hold percentage. Possibly even moves or abilities that change the item's effect or position like unnerve or thief. I'm not sure but I think it'd be helpful. {{unsigned|8BitRevenge}}
:Actually, this is already done. On sections for items, if a wild Pokemon holds it in the wild in a game it is found in, the game section for that item lists it. The same for a Pokemon's page (under the "Held items" section), although it is only on the Pokemon's page that the percentage for that item is listed.--[[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 03:37, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
::That list is [[List of Pokémon by wild held item|here]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:41, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

== Dream World Moves ==

This deserves attention. Dream World no longer needs its own section because, well, the Dream World is closing (at least in terms of naptime and usefulness) as of December 14. Additionally, we are updating Pokémon pages for Gen. VI now; since Dream World isn't there, we should not include it as a section.

With that taken into account, do we or do we not have a place to list moves that are learnable in an earlier generation? If so, all Dream World moves should be moved to that location. We can also update those lists to take into account moves learned via Move Tutor in prior generations, or learned via TMs that no longer exist. If a move can be learned by breeding, we don't even need to list the Dream World move; see [[Pawniard (Pokémon)|Pawniard]], whose moves [[Psycho Cut (move)|Psycho Cut]] and [[Sucker Punch (move)|Sucker Punch]] are learnable via breeding. However, in the case of [[Butterfree (Pokémon)|Butterfree]], we have [[Air Cutter (move)|Air Cutter]] and [[Roost (move)|Roost]] unlearnable via breeding since Caterpie cannot learn any moves through breeding itself, and thus those moves belong in that section on Butterfree's page (which I've started updating except for the DW section).

Thoughts? [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 18:05, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
:They're already on the "Generation V learnset" subpages (here's {{DL|Butterfree (Pokémon)/Generation V learnset|Dream World moves|Butterfree's}}, for example). I think that's fine, isn't it? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:22, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

::That's my opinion as well. The question is whether other editors want to preserve them in some way.
::I'm actually going to remove it from Butterfree now pending opinion on this. I'm about to pull Butterfree out to level up. The only thing I can't fully check yet is the TM list, but I can start that. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 18:48, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

== Time travel and Time Travel ==

There are two pages with the same name differentiated by a capital letter: [[Time travel]] and [[Time Travel]]. Both have links to the other page (I added the one to Time Travel), but this is still quite confusing to have it like this. Wouldn't it make more sense to have Time Travel renamed Time Travel (e-reader application)? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] ([[User talk:Jmvb|talk]]) 23:31, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
:I coudn't agree more!--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 23:48, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

== I have a question... ==

I've noticed that the facility trainers (in the Battle Frontier, Maison, Contests, etc.) have the same name/team/quotes. Since these trainers are recurring, is it important that we put them on the page for their respective locations? Just wondering. -- [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 23:33, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
:I don't think they have the same teams (at least for battle facilities; contests might). There is a pool of Pokémon that each Trainer has their Pokémon randomly selected from. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:21, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

== Disambiguation pages format ==

I am pretty strongly of the opinion that most of the disambiguation pages are currently formatted badly. The numeric pages like [[046]] appear to have "good" formats, with the "disambiguated" links at the beginning; but it appears that just about all other disambiguation pages, like [[Aaron]], use a bad format, with the disambiguated links only appearing ''after'' the description.

It's hard to provide a concrete reason why this is "bad". One possible rationale is that, in many cases, an article title alone can be enough to know which article you want, and any description appearing before that link just gets in the way; by contrast, anyone who ''needs'' that description text is not at all inconvenienced if it appears after the link. Another possible rationale is simply that, without the disambiguated article title at the beginning, I simply have nothing concrete to link the description with initially, so it's just a little abstract...

It may be worth noting that Wikipedia's manual of style for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Disambiguation_pages#Individual_entries disambiguation pages] specifies that the (relevant) link should come first.

Mostly, though, I just ''know'' that, for example, the Metronome disambiguation page works better like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Metronome&oldid=2032134 this] than like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Metronome&oldid=2032138 this]. It always irritates me seeing the latter and having to navigate it...

Do others agree that the "disambiguated" links should be written first? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:29, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
:Agreed, and it is an involved project, but would improve Bulbapedia's consistency and navigation. - [[User:Poikins|'''poi''']][[User talk:Poikins|'''kins''']] 21:55, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

== Retrieving Information Question ==

While I was looking around on the site for something to improve, I discovered that Bulbapedia doesn't have a page for Style in Lumiose City. I would like to make this page, and I found another page on Serebii that seems to help. However, I don't want to just copy information. How should I handle this? [http://www.serebii.net/xy/lumiosestyle.shtml Here's the page]
Also, should I just add this information to the page [[Lumiose City]] instead, once I get the information?
[[User:Lnwz|Lnwz]] ([[User talk:Lnwz|talk]]) 00:44, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

== Proof requirement for hatch times? ==

Hello my friends!
Noah speaking, I was planning on doing some research into the hatch times of certain unconfirmed Pokemon. What form of proof would you require? I could film it and add a footnote, or would you prefer multiple tests/people working on the same egg?

[[User:Polishpeo12|Polishpeo12]] ([[User talk:Polishpeo12|talk]]) 18:54, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
:Unless there is some reason to doubt a hatch time you write down, then I don't think you need a source. --[[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 23:16, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

== Skrelp ==
Hello. In Skrelp's page, I realized that in the trivia section, it says that Skrelp was the only Poison type introduced in the 6th generation. I think that's untrue. Wouldn't Mega Venusaur and Mega Gengar count as new Poison-type Pokémon? ([[User:Hoogachakka|Hoogachakka]] ([[User talk:Hoogachakka|talk]]) 02:00, 28 December 2013 (UTC))
:No, they wouldn't. Mega Evolutions are not new species.--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:29, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

== Overworld Sprites ==

Hello! I noticed a problem with the top of a Kalos Pokémon page, where it says which Pokémon comes previously and next in the National Dex. It doesn't have the sprites of the Pokémon. I can easily retrieve the pictures, so how do I edit those?
{{unsigned|Hoogachakka}}
:You upload images through the Bulbagarden Archives, though you'll want to contact an administrator because no one has been able to provide the sprites without stealing them or get permission from other sites. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 02:17, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
:I was going to take a picture of the sprite in the game, then upload it to my computer, then photoshop it to be just the sprite. That way, it's my photo. ([[User:Hoogachakka|Hoogachakka]] ([[User talk:Hoogachakka|talk]]) 02:37, 28 December 2013 (UTC))
::You mean, take a photo with a camera? That's going to produce a very low-quality image. We need pixel-for-pixel faithfulness to the games, so a capture card is the only option. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:49, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
:::There are a few images on the archives that are recreated images without taking it directly from the games, but I do not believe that the practice is recommended. I would contact an administrator on the archives if this would be acceptable. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 04:03, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

== Regarding APNG images ==

In using Bulbapedia as a reference for various Moves, I noticed you employ the APNG format, however many of the animations are unnecessarily large. I've personally spent quite a bit of time building and deconstructing APNGs in order to understand the format. I thought I'd start my contributions by providing and animated version of [[a:File:Reflect_III.png|Reflect]]. Before I upload it though, I'd like to confirm my suspicion that the existing animations are intentionally split with the first frame being midway through the loop so that APNG unaware browsers will still display a useful illustration of the move. --[[User:GARY-DOS|GARY-DOS]] ([[User talk:GARY-DOS|talk]]) 06:21, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
:Yes, it is intentional to have the unanimated frame be still a useful image. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:05, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

== Version Exclusive Trainers ==

I apologize if this is not the correct area to talk about this. The character box for trainers is made up of several templates, which means there is not a core talk page for this to go to. After the debacle of exploring Mt. Mortar in Gold (gen II) with every possible resource online and through game play, I have come to the realization, unless I still have not explored well enough, that three out of the four trainers are more than likely version exclusive to Crystal version. That being said, there is not an area in the trainer box to show if certain trainers are version exclusive. Due to this, articles with trainer boxes which do not state the specifics of certain version exclusive trainers are misleading, which should be fixed. That being said, I do not know exactly how many trainers are version exclusive, and I am aware that determining that would take a lot of time. One may say that due to it costing a lot of time to calculate the above, as well as it being so specific, that it doesn't matter. I wish to know the opinions of others to see if this is necessary...not just for my sake, but for any other viewer using Bulbapedia for information about locations and the trainers within them. [[User:Qj|Qj]] ([[User talk:Qj|talk]]) 02:30, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
:(Now that you mention it, I'm pretty sure I remember my old VersusBooks guide from my childhood mentioning that the Trainers were new to Crystal. So I'm pretty sure you're right.) I wouldn't think it's necessary to change the templates. I think we should just be able to use separate section headers (i.e., it's "Generation II" now, so we could add a subheader under it for "Crystal only"). As for the time necessary, that may be an obstacle, but no logistical obstacle should be considered large enough to make us not even ''try'' to compile correct information. If we try and fail, sure, and the topic will almost certainly attract very little attention, but giving up before the start seems defeatist. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:17, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
::Just so you know, a good amount of pages already have version exclusives separated (for example: {{rt|115|Hoenn}} has the trainers separated between Ruby and Sapphire (where all the trainers are pretty much the same) and Emerald, with trainers who have differences being marked off. It's the same with Generation IV Routes like ({{rt|212|Sinnoh}})). If any Routes aren't marked with version exclusive trainers it was either done by someone with one game assuming they all have the same trainers, or don't have version exclusives. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 05:46, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Thank you for the clarification on the issue. I would have seen the separation, but the articles I visited had none of the separation you talked about above. I hope that editors willing to make edits to trainer boxes in the future will first make sure their information spans through all games of the generation in question, as to prevent future misunderstandings for all future viewers. (StrategyWiki, in general, is not as accurate compared to this site due to the large community.) [[User:Qj|Qj]] ([[User talk:Qj|talk]]) 06:31, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

==Mega Eon Duo are now Available to the Public through Cheat Codes==
A hacking company has released cheat codes to get the Mega Eon Duo, and the Internet is now roaming with players using these Mega Evolutions. Does this mean it's now okay to acknowledge the existence of the Mega Eon Duo and add them to the pages around Bulbapedia? [[User:Nintendocan|Nintendocan]] ([[User talk:Nintendocan|talk]]) 03:02, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
:were not allowed to aknowledge them until Nintendo actually reveals them apparently. --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 03:43, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
::It's more along the lines of "We don't like using stuff that we didn't find ourselves if Nintendo hasn't revealed it". We'll get pages once Bulbapedia contributors get the cheating device required to obtain them--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 06:04, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
:::We currently do mention them: check the [[Mega Stone]], [[Mega Evolution]], [[Latios (Pokémon)]], [[Latias (Pokémon)]], etc. pages. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:04, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
::::Yeah, that comment was made a while before that round of edits.----[[User:BigBadBatter|Big]][[User talk:BigBadBatter|Bad]][[User:BigBadBatter|Batter]] 22:04, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
:::::Shouldn't we have an image of them?--<sc>✓[[User:PikaTepig999|Pika]][[User talk:PikaTepig999|Tepig]][[Special:Contributions/Pikatepig999|999]]✓</sc> 09:58, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

== Blaziken Mask/Meyer ==

All right, so the episode that reveals the fact that these are the same character just so happened to air this morning. There is no more spoiler for North America, only for those who haven't seen the episode. As I don't believe it's natural to try to prevent spoilers five years down the line (hey, I only started watching the anime a couple of years or so ago), I think it's time that the two pages be merged. This has been brought up at {{red link|Talk:Blaziken Mask|Blaziken Mask's talk page}} and eventually [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ABlaziken_Mask&diff=2035685&oldid=2031839 confirmed] by [[User:Blazingfist|Blazingfist]] there, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Blaziken_Mask&diff=next&oldid=2035685 another opinion given for a merge], and even [[Talk:Meyer|Meyer's talk page]] was [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Meyer&oldid=2075735 created] with a note that it should be the new home of the [[Blaziken Mask]] information.

I first commented on [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMeyer&diff=2090589&oldid=2089765 March 17] (actually evening of March 16 for me) also noting we need to make the move within a week. No response followed until [[User:Mkbw50|Mkbw50]] suggested [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMeyer&diff=2092108&oldid=2090589 continuing use of spoiler tags] on the merged page; I disagree with this myself since it's known they are the same character now. Blazingfist and myself have since [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMeyer&diff=2092827&oldid=2092108 commented further], but I decided it was time to bring more visibility to this and get more editor opinion on this.

So...it's time to merge [[Meyer]] and [[Blaziken Mask]]. They are the same character; continuing to keep the pages separated implies they are different people, which would not be prudent for us to do. Let's discuss a merge. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 15:25, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

== Event-exclusive moves ==

Is there a list or category of them? If so, can someone direct me to it? If not, should it be created? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 02:14, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
:I don't think one exists. A category sounds like a good idea. As far as I know, the event-exclusive moves we currently have pages for are {{m|V-create}}, {{m|Hold Back}}, {{m|Celebrate}} and {{m|Happy Hour}}. Plus, some of the moves we know exist but don't know how to get in-game might be event-exclusive. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:56, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

== Prior to Generation (#) ==

Just notice that in Pokedex entries, "This Pokemon is unavailable prior to Generation (#)" is written. But as for sprites, all the genrations are listed, and then, "This Pokemon did not appear in Gen (#)" is written. Can't we just write "This Pokemon did not appear prior to Gen (#)"? [[User:TrainerTantei|TrainerTantei]] ([[User talk:TrainerTantei|talk]]) 07:52, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
:I agree! [[User:Player3.25|By player 3.25]] ([[User talk:Player3.25|talk]]) 19:21, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

== Adding information to the anime episodes ==
I'm slightly new to Bulbapedia, and would like to contribute to the episode guide and the pages containing the episode information of the XY series by adding some broadcasting information, but the thing is I don't know how to add that info and would like to know. [[User:Jamie64326|Jamie64326]] ([[User talk:Jamie64326|talk]]) 13:50, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

== Vertical line thing ==

I can't figure out how to get the following line thing: | (I had to copy and paste that). Does anyone know how? [[User:Player3.25|Player3.25]] ([[User talk:Player3.25|talk]]) 20:21, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
:On standard American keyboards, it's the key above '''Enter''' ('''Return''') on the same key as the '''Backslash''' ( '''\''' ), but typed by holding '''Shift'''. On other keyboards I do not know the answer. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 21:06, 6/21/2014 (UTC)

That's OK, but I'm from Ireland. [[User:Player3.25|Player3.25]] ([[User talk:Player3.25|talk]]) 07:45, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
:Look for the key with "|\" on. Shift click that. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 07:49, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Which row is it in? I can't find that key anywhere on the keyboard. [[User:Player3.25|By Player3.25]] ([[User talk:Player3.25|talk]]) 16:04, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

:Apparently it should be [http://www.chrismary.com/languagekeyboard/layouts/irish_keyboard.jpg next to the Z], but there's a note here saying it's not on all keyboards. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 16:19, 6/22/2014 (UTC)

Oh. It's on my keyboard, but on the actual key, it shows 2 short vertical lines with a gap between them, but when I typed it, this came up: | Thanks! [[User:Player3.25|By Player3.25]] ([[User talk:Player3.25|talk]]) 18:05, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

== How do I know when I can create pages? ==

I know you can create pages when you have edited enough articles, but how do I know when I've done that? Does it alert me or something? [[User:Player3.25|The person]] ([[User talk:Player3.25|talk]]) 18:41, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
:No alert, you can just be able to create your user page. --[[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 21:22, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

== How do you replace images? ==

Does anybody know how to replace the images in the boxes with captons on pages? [[User:Player3.25|By player 3.25]] ([[User talk:Player3.25|talk]]) 16:53, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
:We have [[:a:Main Page|separate server]] for files. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 16:58, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
??? [[User:Player3.25|By player 3.25]] ([[User talk:Player3.25|talk]]) 18:00, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
:You need to go there and upload new pictures in order to replace them here. Also, please make sure to use colons (<nowiki>:</nowiki>) when responding to posts in order to indent your message. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 18:12, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

== How do you create info boxes? ==

How do you create information boxes? [[User:Player3.25|By player 3.25]] ([[User talk:Player3.25|talk]]) 19:18, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

== Type percentages ==

I noticed that the percentages on the type pages are wrong, so I made [[User:TheSilentHero/Type Count|this]] page with the correct numbers. Would it be all right to change this in the type pages? [[User:TheSilentHero|TheSilentHero]] ([[User talk:TheSilentHero|talk]]) 09:37, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

==Demographics==
I'm getting the feeling that some of the populations are incorrect. For one, Safari Zone Gate seems to be way lower than it should be, and the attendants in the Pokemon Centre dont seem to be counted at all. Yet, The Talk Page of both Black City and White Forest has someone saying they should be. A lot of people seem to be unclear on this scince Ive seen comments of people on other Talk pages not being sure. I'm just gonna go ahead with (slowly but surely) recounting Johto, Kanto and possibly Sinnoh's cities and towns, including Pokemon Centre's Marts, and Gates. I'm ignoring Hoenn because that will change in OR/AS anyways and ignoring Unova because I dont know what Castelia City/Nimbasa City people were counted and which werent. And I dont have X/Y yet so cant count Kalos. Also, the older regions have been here a while, so checking stuff for them might have slowed down too. If anyone wants to help, or comment on this, then go on ahead. Just posting this here since I think a heads up would be necessary. [[User:Smear-Gel|Smear-Gel]] ([[User talk:Smear-Gel|talk]]) 22:13, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

== Hoopa page ==

First thing's first: Will we use my [[User:Phiraptor28/Hoopa_(Pokémon)|Hoopa page]] as the official page? *not bragging*
Secondly: And if we're gonna use the page, we have two options: 1. Wait for Hoopa's Forme Differences to be released before using the page; and 2. Edit the Hoopa page to hide the info about Hoopa Unbound. Thanks for reading! Sorry, I sometimes get a little too excited. '''Too excited''' :) [[User:Phiraptor28|Phiraptor28]] ([[User talk:Phiraptor28|talk]]) 13:55, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

== Hatching Undiscovered Eggs ==

How come the Pokémon in the Undiscovered Egg Group have egg cycles listed? Surely this is pointless information, right? ''' ''Scribbl'' ''' 13:08, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:It's just game data, so while it may not actually be used, it is still there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:14, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

==Let's Hold Hands==
Hi! Can a staff member remove Let's Hold Hands (a Korean ending theme) from the wanted pages list? I've made the page but under a slightly different translated name :)--[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(Talk)''']] 06:30, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

== Wonder mail ==

I would put wonder mail codes in items and pokemon for [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]] but I do not know how to put down the codes. How would I do this? [[User:Musicjax|Musicjax]] ([[User talk:Musicjax|talk]]) 00:27, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
:The only Wonder Mail codes that are appropriate for Bulbapedia are those that are required to unlock otherwise unaccessible content, such as Wonder Mail-exclusive events and version-exclusive Pokémon. The appropriate articles for such Wonder Mail codes should already contain a code that will unlock the content ([[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team#Wonder Mail codes|Example]]). - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 02:38, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

== Use of files from built-in screenshot functions ==

I wish to add to the pages pertaining to locations in Pokémon Rumble World. Is it appropriate to use images taken with Rumble World's "Take Photos" feature, or should I leave it to someone with a capture card? [[User:Spongeabc5|Spongeabc5]] ([[User talk:Spongeabc5|talk]]) 01:28, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
:I don't play Pokémon rumble world (my charger broke for my 3ds) but, if the take photos feature takes screenshots then this would probably be ok. [[User:Musicjax|Musicjax]] 23:13, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
::If you are taking shots in-stage and posting, say, the entire top image as an example of gameplay in a stage, that is perfectly fine. The concern is for certain types of images; I'm trying to milk decent images out of the lower-screen JPGs that would, as JPGs, not be sufficient quality (I do re-save them as PNG), but in-game screens are perfectly viable and are even [[Gold Plateau|already in use]]. Ideally, it'd be nice to have at least one generic shot and one boss battle - maybe including a legendary periodically, but not always - in each area. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 23:26, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

== Time Space Axis M12 ==

I have one ready in my [[User:Upratik 12/Time-Space Axis (M12)|user space]] ready, if it's enough i would like it to move it to the mainspace --[[User:Upratik 12|Pratik_12]] '' [[User talk:Upratik 12|Talk]]'' 20:49, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

== Filter Problem ==

I'm having an issue where, on a lot of pages, pressing the move-sorting filter will arrange the moves in an order for a different category. Instead of categorising moves by Type after pressing the arrow next to the "Type" heading, for example, the moves will be sorted in order of highest to lowest Accuracy. On the pages where this happens, it always categorises moves according to the fourth filter to the right. Pressing "Category" should order moves depending on whether they're physical, special, or status, but instead it goes in PP order. The "Power" filter sorts moves into an order depending on their Contest category, the "Accuracy" filter orders them by their Contest Appeal, and the "PP" filter orders them by their Contest Jamming level. This could just be my computer spazzing out, but it happens for me on a lot of pages. Is this a site bug? ''' ''Scribbl'' ''' 09:40, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
:This [[Talk:Bulbasaur (Pokémon)#Correction|has been noticed]]. In short, the problem is that most of the tables do actually work, but if the tutor table is on the same page as anything else, somehow it seems to screw up the sorting of the other tables. It's not an easy thing to troubleshoot. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:31, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

== Regarding the new Manaphy event ==

I tried to translate part of the site with the Water Tribe Manaphy, and got this. Some of it may be wrong.
Is this useful at all?

Ribbon: 위시리본 (Wish Ribbon).
Ball: 프레셔스볼 (Precious Ball).
Fathers (possibly OT): 물의일족 (Water Clan).
Item: 없음 (None.)
{{unsigned|Keeby358}}
:We already have this information listed here: {{DL|List of Korean region serial code event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI|Water Tribe Manaphy}}. Thanks for the help though. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:57, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

== Hoopa page ==

Hoopa's page is protected and hence I cannot make this change to the article. The change is that on the page it is written that the prison bottle has not been officialy revealed, which is wrong. Also it is written that Hoopa Unbound is also not officially revealed. {{unsigned|PokemonCool|21:54, 13 July 2015}}
:You should bring it up on the {{talk|relevant talk page|Hoopa (Pokémon)}}. Also, sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. -''[[User:Sher-e-Bengal|Sher]]-e-[[User_talk:Sher-e-Bengal|Bengal]]''- 16:31, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

== How do i translate an entire page? ==

hey, im pretty new here, and i want to know,
how do i translate an entire page?
i really want to do this, and i will be more than happy if someone will answer me.
have a good day :) {{unsigned|Nunutrxh}}
:Our [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis]] partners have pages about topics written by native speakers of that language; they have pages in German, French, Italian, Japanese, Polish, and Chinese. If you need a Bulbapedia page translated into another language, then you'll have to use Google Translate or another online translation service. Also, in the future, please sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 00:30, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
::pherhaps you missed understood me, i dont want a to see a translated page, i want to translate it by myself. is thtat an option? sorry if the way i wrote it sounds rude, i dont know how to write proper english letters and such <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. 11:43, 29 July 2015 (UTC) {{unsigned|Nunutrxh}}
:::Yeah, you've got to remove the nowiki tags for your signature to work correctly. Just use the four ~. As for your question, you may translate it depending on what you want to do with the translated stuff. -''[[User:Sher-e-Bengal|Sher]]-e-[[User_talk:Sher-e-Bengal|Bengal]]''- 11:57, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
::::If you click the "edit" button at the top of a page, you can see the source code of a page. You can translate that text into whichever language you like. If you plan on rehosting it somewhere else, as a derivative work, it is subject to the CC BY-NC-SA 2.5 license, which requires you to [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/ follow the license terms]. If you're interested in translating pages into your language for Bulbapedia itself, I unfortunately don't believe that we are in need of that content at the moment. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 12:30, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

== Contest conditions ==

I need to add Oras moves and effects for contest spectaculars. However, for the addition, the chart needs a new column. How do you add one? I am a new user. Please help. Sincerely, Tripplekittys. {{unsigned|Tripplekittys}}
:I'm sorry to tell you this, but right now you can't add new info to that template. There's a draft for a new one [[User:Kogoro/Movelist/contest|over here]], but I don't know when it will be moved to the mainspace, maybe when we get remakes of ''Pokémon Diamond'' and ''Pearl'' so the shitload of moves in need of Contest data will be even bigger and the chart even messier. On another note, please sign your posts with four tildes (~) in the future. Thank you! --[[User:Mikuri|'''Mi''']][[User talk: Mikuri|'''ku''']][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|'''ri''']] 00:31, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
::Hello, I had just made an account to help complete the Contest condition move tables. Looking at this discussion makes this seem unlikely to happen, but I figured I would ask to see if there has been any progress since the original post? And if not, is there anyway that I can get a hold of that linked template and attempt to work on overhauling the whole section? Thank you in advance for the help. [[User:LiteRed|liteRed]] ([[User talk:LiteRed|talk]]) 04:48, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

== Linking to items with their own articles on "List of items" pages. ==

On the various "List of items" pages, is there a way to properly link to the articles of items that have their own articles?

'''Example''': In the entry for [[Destiny Knot]], the section has the small words "Red Thread", which in turn has a link to a Wikipedia page about the "Red String of Fate". If "Destiny Knot" had its own Bulbapedia article, would there be a way to make the bold-faced words "Destiny Knot" point to such an article? It appears that I am having link/template difficulties.. Thanks in advance for the help. [[User:Fenyx4|Fenyx4]] ([[User talk:Fenyx4|talk]]) 04:04, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

== what can I do in there? ==

Hey guys i'm a user in this wiki.but i don't know what can i do in there,before BLUBAPEDIA wiki i have worked at 52poke wiki,so what should i do?Although my English is bad but please tell me what can i do,thankyou.--[[User:52poke yellow|'''₥Yellow''']] '''¤from52poke〆''' [[User talk:52poke yellow|'''don't''''''fight''']] 13:40, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

== Change "Start" and "--" for level up move levels ==

We should change all occurrences of "Start" in Pokemon level up tables (like [[Bulbasaur (Pokémon)#By leveling up]]) and "--" in move level up tables (like [[Tackle (move)#By leveling up]]) to "1". Certainly for Generations IV+ at least; maybe for Generations I-III as well.

;WHY<nowiki>:</nowiki>

I bred myself a {{p|Pumpkaboo}} (so, it knew its three "Start" moves) and then traded it to myself through the GTS at level 1 and it evolved into {{p|Gourgeist}}. And after it evolved, it learned {{m|Explosion}} and then was asked to learn {{m|Phantom Force}}. Again: ''at level 1''.

Gourgeist's [[Gourgeist (Pokémon)#By leveling up|level up table]] says "Start" for Explosion and Phantom Force (and etc). (Likewise, in Explosion's [[Explosion (move)#By leveling up|level up table]], Gourgeist's row says "--, 75".) But if I can learn those moves at level 1, that field should ''say'' "1". If I can learn it at level 1, there's no good reason to say "Start" or "--" instead. If it ''doesn't'' say "1", that implies I ''can't'' learn it at level 1.

I also tested this same thing with a bred level 1 {{p|Slowpoke}} in Gen IV. I traded one each to Pearl and Platinum holding King's Rocks, and after they evolved, they learned {{m|Power Gem}} ([[Slowking (Pokémon)/Generation IV learnset|only in Platinum]]) and {{m|Hidden Power}}. So: again, these moves are plainly at level "1"; not "Start".

This isn't possible to test directly in Generations I-III, since none of those games [[Experience#Experience underflow glitch|have wild Pokemon at lv 1]] (and bred Pokemon start at level 5 instead of 1). I may (''maybe'') try to use some cheat codes/ROM editing to test the behavior, though.

;USE "1"

So. As I said at the start, we should change all "Start" and "--" to "1" for at least Generations IV-VI. I suppose it's kind of a moot point whether we also do that for Generations I-III since, as I also said, there's no natural way to evolve any Pokemon at level 1 in those games. But, if the game does treat those "Start" moves as learnable at level 1, then I tend to think we should use accurate terminology...

Of course, this is a big project. I'm sure staff want to at least approve it first. I don't know, maybe staff would even want to do it entirely by themselves. But, as much change as it may require, this is '''''absolutely''''' something that needs to be done. We cannot call "Start" and "--" 'good enough'. They are inaccurate, misleading; they're not even ''necessary'' if "1" is true. And it is. This needs to be changed.

[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:38, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

: (WHY) Alright, this might be a bit of rambling, but this is what I have. While still being part speculation at this time, I believe the original intent was possibly to the term "Starting Moves" being shortened to the word "Start." The [[Move Reminder]] article mentions that one of the reason for wanting to learn a move with the Move Reminder is if "the species (has) more than four starting moves" and that Healing Wish is "one of Lopunny's starting moves." It seems that a move that can be learned at Level 1 is considered a "Start Move," whether it is an unofficial term, an official term, or a fan term. More evidence for this can be found with [[User:Mazion]] who [[Special:Contributions/Mazion|use the wording "starter move" several times]] and an issue involving [[Seaking_(Pokémon)#Trivia|Seaking "learning" Supersonic twice in Gen II]]. Additionally, [[Talk:Generation_IV_hybrid#.22Start.22_and_.22Level_1.22_moves...|the talk page for the Generation IV hybrids shows a conversation that associates "Start" with Level 1]]. Oddly, moves themselves never use the term "Start" and instead use "--" like on [[Reflect Type (move)]].
: (USE 1) I will note that since at least sometime around Generation IV, the template started to use the following note: 'A level of "Start" indicates a move that will be known by a Bulbasaur obtained at level 1 in Generation VI.' The reasoning behind having the note is speculation at this time, though it might have to do with attempting to explain what "Start" means. More, I would like to if the rambling I made earlier is the reasoning behind just not using Level 1. Either way, I am currently content with consistency in all pages.
: (I will note that Tiddlywinks and myself [[User talk:Super goku#Slowking Gen IV|had a small discussion on my talk page]] that highlights a few points as well. Basically on what [[Prima Games]] and Nintendo used in their Strategy guides and {{bp|Project Pokédex}}.)
:--[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 03:48, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
::The discussion about the Gen IV hybrids seems much too specialized to be relevant (apparently they ''"level up to Level 1 twice"'').
::As far as the note that appeared around Gen IV, it's far from perfect in a couple ways. For one, the wording "obtained" doesn't entirely sound like it would apply to a Pokemon that evolved (like by trade or evo stone). And then, that note is just so very easy to miss or else forget. And at the same time: there's still just no need—at all—to use "Start" if "1" is true (in the process of leveling up/evolving at least). If "1" is true, "Start" is not in any way better than "1". [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:21, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
:::According to {{u|Kogoro}}, changing "Start" and "--" to "1" has previously been approved due to being listed as level 1 in ''[[Pokémon X & Pokémon Y: The Official Kalos Region Guidebook]]''. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 04:31, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
::::Meaning: this is something it's okay for average users to start fixing anywhere it's currently "Start" or "--"? (Not: staff have been intending to get to it, or something.)
::::Also: on any page, even all the way back to Gen I? (I still don't know how Gen I-III act.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:38, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
:::::I am going to be a bit bold and suggest that Gen III should follow due to the FRLG Strategy guide. Otherwise, I would just suggest consistency with all Learnsets. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 05:19, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
::::::Bump.
::::::(I don't mean this to sound like some sort of "threat", but:) I suppose if there's no answer, I can just go ahead and try editing a number of pages and just see like that if staff minds. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:11, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
:::::::Kogoro has given approval to change "--" or "Start" to "1". --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 01:22, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
::::::::Based on The Official Kalos Guidebook mentioned above. Tiddlywinks wants staff approval that any user can make the changes and that it goes back to Generation I learnsets as well. Personally, I would like some clarification as well. (Especially since we do sometimes based specific styles on specific Generations.) --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 03:41, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::Guys. Kogoro said yes. Meaning yes, you may change "Start" or "--" to "1" on '''all''' learnsets, regardless of generation. We want to be consistent here, so all of them should have "1".--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:48, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

== CAPTCHA won't display ==

I'm a new user and I was able to sign up only because of the mobile view option since the desktop view wouldn't display the CAPTCHA. Now that I'm signed up, I can't edit pages with links because doing so requires a CAPTCHA and it still doesn't display. I'm using Chrome. [[User:AmoralCreed|AmoralCreed]] ([[User talk:AmoralCreed|talk]]) 04:38, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
: I'm also a new user, and I had a similar problem. Then Captcha showed up at the bottom of the "sign in" page and wouldn't accept my entries until (3-4 tries later), it finally displayed in the correct spot. (Also using Chrome, because it tends to run Bulbapedia with fewer hiccups than my IE 11.) [[User:Cybertronian|Cybertronian]] ([[User talk:Cybertronian|talk]]) 04:29, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
:: I had the same problem while signing up, so this is still an issue. However, in my case it might have been due to my NoScript plugin. [[User:Sandrew26|Sandrew26]] ([[User talk:Sandrew26|talk]]) 14:24, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
:: After trying to add external links to a page, the captcha requirement appeared again. Once again, it first appeared at the very bottom of the page, and entering the correct numbers had no effect. The page refreshed and again asked for a captcha, but this time the box was in what I assume was the correct location near the top of the page, and this time entering the numbers worked. I don't have any scripts blocked (noscript shows only bulbagarden.net), and ghostery isn't blocking it, either. I'd upload a picture to show you, but bulbapedia won't let me? I'm on firefox 46.0.01 --[[User:Sandrew26|Sandrew26]] ([[User talk:Sandrew26|talk]]) 13:54, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

== What is the process for updating Game Sprite PNGs/images? ==

I've been using Bulbapedia to help me out as I play with the 3rd Generation Pokémon games (in my case: Sapphire, LeafGreen, FireRed, and Emerald). Recently, I decided to save some of the game sprites and I noticed that the R/S sprites for Jynx weren't consistent with one another. (R/S Normal Jynx had miscolored sprites and noticeable blank spots, mostly in the hands, compared the R/S Shiny Jynx.) Using Paint Shop Pro 9.01, I touched up the sprite, and kept the new image limited to the 15 (plus 1 transparent) colors used on the original image. This way, if someone were to ''manually'' change the palette colors to those of Shiny Jynx (after saving the PNG to their own computer, of course), they would now look indistinguishable. I then joined Bulbapedia so that I could submit my update for review.
That being said, what is the process for submitting a ''new'' image to be reviewed for possible replacement of an ''earlier'' submitted image? [[User:Cybertronian|Cybertronian]] ([[User talk:Cybertronian|talk]]) 04:45, 18 February 2016 (UTC).

== Gen1 sprite order on species pages ==

Is there any particular reason that the Gen1 species pages show the JBlue/Red/Blue sprites first, then Yellow, then Red/Green? Sprites from all other generations are listed by release order, with the "Red" of each pair when they don't use the same sprites. To keep things consistent, (and to easier display how they were changed over time), shouldn't they be ordered as Red/Green, JBlue/Red/Blue, Yellow? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] ([[User talk:FortMax|talk]]) 01:19, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
:We're an English wiki. English content is our primary concern. That said, Japanese content may be significant as well, which would be why we do include the different R/G sprites; but it's firmly a secondary concern compared to the releases that most English-speakers will actually know.
:And it's not really relevant that everything else is listed in release order, when everything else didn't have the same divergence between what was released in Japanese and what was released in English. That inherently breaks down any such comparison. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:35, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
:As Tiddlywinks said, English content has priority. I don't think it'd hurt if the order were changed to place RG first though. Also, if I may, Red and Blue, from an official standpoint, are nothing more than the Western releases of the Japanese Red, Green, and Blue (Blue provides the engine, Red and Green the version-exclusive content). We really don't need the game articles split into RGB and RB as this distinction is more of a habit than anything else, not to mention that the relevant changes can be explained in detail on their respective articles (e.g.: [[in-game trade]]). But this is just my 2¢ and that's a topic for another date, I guess. [[User:SatoMew2|SatoMew2]] ([[User talk:SatoMew2|talk]]) 01:58, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

== Question about updating images. ==

I've noticed many move pages missing Gen VI images, my question is how you take a picture of your Gen VI game as though it was a computer screenshot?
[[User:Sporedragon|Sporedragon]] ([[User talk:Sporedragon|talk]]) 01:00, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
:Through miiverse --[[User:Pyritie|Pyritie]] ([[User talk:Pyritie|talk]]) 10:04, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
::It is not possible to upload screenshots of the Generation VI games through Miiverse, presumably due to having cases where the 3DS camera is used (Holocaster is one example). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:01, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

== Grammar error ==

On the Editor's Hub page it says "The follow articles don't meet our standards:", when it should be "following". I didn't see a way to edit it, so I'm leaving a note. [[User:Sandrew26|Sandrew26]] ([[User talk:Sandrew26|talk]]) 14:26, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

== Official Sun and Moon Release Dates ==

I am happy to inform you that Nintendo, through a 3DS notification, has set the official release dates for Sun and Moon as Nov. 18. I request that this be put on the main page ASAP [[User:Destructodon|Destructodon]] ([[User talk:Destructodon|talk]]) 01:38, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
:We've already had that information on the Sun and Moon page [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Sun_and_Moon&diff=2439847&oldid=2437102 for more than a month]. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 02:48, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

== Move breeding table width ==

Is it possible to increase the width of the tables in the "by breeding" section on moves? Everything's so squished that it looks silly and it's very difficult to navigate. Look at [[Leech Seed]] for an example -- the minisprites should be on more than one or two columns per generation. --[[User:Pyritie|Pyritie]] ([[User talk:Pyritie|talk]]) 11:02, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

== Accidentally signed a talk page too many times ==

I somehow signed the bottom of this section http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Tapu_Koko_(Pok%C3%A9mon)#Name_origin and I can't remove the extra signature because of a "vandal filter 3" error... On a side note, how are people supposed to make edits to something they said on the talk pages if they have to sign their edits literally every time? I swear why do all the wikis I visit always have questionable policies? [[User:Mattwo|Mattwo]] ([[User talk:Mattwo|talk]]) 23:06, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
:I've removed the extra signature. As for your other note, you sign every comment you make so other users know who wrote the comment. That should be common sense.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:37, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
::And what about when you're just fixing a typo or something? I shouldn't be forced to place a signature that already exists... [[User:Mattwo|Mattwo]] ([[User talk:Mattwo|talk]]) 07:42, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
:::You shouldn't be fixing typos or grammatical errors. You can't edit your message once you've sent it, that's what the preview button is for.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:25, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
::::So you're basically just expecting everyone to '''''always''''' catch all their mistakes right off the bat? Gotta say, that is an unreasonably high expectation. [[User:Mattwo|Mattwo]] ([[User talk:Mattwo|talk]]) 17:12, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
:::::Not necessarily. If you spot an error once you've sent the message, you just can't edit it. If you wanted to make sure there were no errors in your message, you should use the preview button. If not, then save away and leave it be. Also, stop altering your comments and you don;t need to sign every time you alter your comments. Only when you make new comments.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 17:34, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

== Page Request ==

Please set this page's text to what I said in its talk page: {{redlink|After-Cap effect}} {{unsigned|Theawesomer}}

== Page Request (correction) ==

Please set text for this page to my comment in its talk page: {{redlink|After-Cap Effect}}

I made it

--[[User:Theawesomer|Theawesomer]] ([[User talk:Theawesomer|talk]]) 10:01, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
:Minor glitches like that don't get their own articles, they go on the list of glitches in their generation. And I believe it's already on [[List of glitches in Generation I#Inded #000 post-capture|there]]. [[User:Glik|glik]][[User talk:Glik|glak]] 14:07, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

== Is copying and pasting from other sites allowed? ==

I want to write down the plot of chapter 1 of Pocket monsters B2 W2 ~ A new legend manga. Dogasu's backpack already has the plot. I am not sure if I am allowed to copy and past the information on Dogasu's backpack on to the page or if it is considered plagiarism. I am reffering to this page: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/ANL1 [[User:Awesomevenustoise101|Awesomevenustoise101]] ([[User talk:Awesomevenustoise101|talk]]) 17:11, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
:Absolutely not. Please read [[Bulbapedia:FAQ#Can I copy/steal stuff from other sites?|this]]. --[[User:Carmenstar97|Carmen★]] ''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|(Talk |]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|contribs)]]'' 17:18, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

== Find-and-Replace Bot ==

Do we have a bot that can do a find-and-replace for a certain phrase? [[User:Hydroxybutyric|Hydroxybutyric]] ([[User talk:Hydroxybutyric|talk]]) 21:03, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
::Hello...? [[User:Hydroxybutyric|Hydroxybutyric]] ([[User talk:Hydroxybutyric|talk]]) 21:22, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
:::♫♪♫ Is it {{u|BulbaBot}} you're looking for? ♫♪♫ (...or rather a related thread thread on [http://forums.bulbagarden.net/index.php?forums/bulbawiki-forum.195/ the forums]?) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 10:23, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
::::The user who takes requests for BulbaBot seems to have locked their page, though. [[User:Hydroxybutyric|Hydroxybutyric]] ([[User talk:Hydroxybutyric|talk]]) 14:56, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
:::::BulbaBot's talk page has been locked because it is not a human, so nobody checks its talk page. The staff sometimes use BulbaBot for mass replacement tasks (or their own accounts), but there is no publicly accessible text replacement tool. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:17, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

== Research template ==

I need help, how to write the research needed template [[User:Mrkubatt 98|Mrkubatt 98]] ([[User talk:Mrkubatt 98|talk]]) 21:14, 1 December 2016 (UTC)Mrkubatt_98
:You can tag pages with <code><nowiki>{{incomplete|needs=REASON GOES HERE}}</nowiki></code>. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:15, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
::How do I add a second reason? --[[User:PersonThatReallyLikesPokemon|PersonThatReallyLikesPokemon]] ([[User talk:PersonThatReallyLikesPokemon|talk]]) 10:23, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
:::You just include them in the same area. So maybe <code>"Needs information on where to find Pikachu. Missing details on the location of the Poké Ball."</code> --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:31, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

== [tcg] Difference between "Miscellaneous_Promotional_cards_(tcg)" and the "Additional Cards" Section in sets ==

I was going through the older sets aka [[EX_Hidden_Legends_(TCG)]], and noticed that these sets did not have an additional cards section for cards; like the non holo national championship cards. So I then looked at the [[Miscellaneous_Promotional_cards_(TCG)]] and found them there. I also found some of the newer cards like the build a bear workshop pikachu promo there as well.

Should all the miscellaneous promos be in the '''Additional Cards''' section that is on the set's page (minus the jumbos imo) or are there special rules about what goes there? If not I'd love to edit the older sets and add them.

[[User:Pcompaq|Pcompaq]] ([[User talk:Pcompaq|talk]]) 22:48, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

== ''More info for beginner editors'' ==

There should be a list of '''all''' templates and more editing advice so that people that have knowledge of Pokémon but don't know how to edit pages that well can contribute to the wiki. {{unsigned|PersonThatReallyLikesPokemon}}
:A [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=10 list of all templates] would be excessive and incredibly overwhelming to new editors. The templates most beginners will be interested in are link templates, a list of which can be found at [[BP:LLT]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:54, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
::So where can I find the template for that info thing that is on the right? (also what is that called?)[[User:PersonThatReallyLikesPokemon|PersonThatReallyLikesPokemon]] ([[User talk:PersonThatReallyLikesPokemon|talk]]) 10:13, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
:::That would be called an infobox. In the page source, there will be a template at the top of the page, usually with "Infobox" in its name. If you look up "Template:<nowiki><infobox name></nowiki>" in the search bar, you should find the page for it. We try to provide explanations of how to use them on the template talk pages (like [[Template talk:Pokémon Infobox|this one]]), but older templates in particular lack this. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:31, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

== Image uploading? ==

The [[Statistic]] page has images of an erroneous formula as an example as discussed [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Statistic#Contradiction here]. I have generated new images to replace them, but when I try to upload them it says I am not autoconfirmed. I am reasonably certain I am autoconfirmed, since I've had this account for years and made probably over a hundred edits, so what's going on here? Is there a separate autoconfirmation system for images? [[User:Xolroc|Xolroc]] ([[User talk:Xolroc|talk]]) 21:44, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
:Images are uploaded over on the Bulbagarden Archives (link on the left of the page). Unfortunately, you'll need to become autoconfirmed over there as well, separate from your autocfirmation here. [[User:Glik|glik]][[User talk:Glik|glak]] 21:48, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
::How does that even work, though? Bulbagarden Archives is solely for uploading images, but if you can't upload images without being autoconfirmed and you can't become autoconfirmed without uploading images, it would seem to be simply impossible to do anything. [[User:Xolroc|Xolroc]] ([[User talk:Xolroc|talk]]) 21:51, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
:::You get autoconfirmed for editing, just like here (plus the "had an account long enough" wait time). I can point you to some things there that need done, if you'd like. [[User:Glik|glik]][[User talk:Glik|glak]] 21:56, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
::::Sure, I suppose. I wasn't aware there was anything to edit other than by uploading images though--I thought the archives was just an image repository. [[User:Xolroc|Xolroc]] ([[User talk:Xolroc|talk]]) 21:58, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

== Move Relearner ==

I noticed in {{sup/7}} when you give the [[Move Relearner]] a [[Heart Scale]] you can teach a Pokemon a move it cannot have learned yet due to being a too low level. For example, I can teach my Level 1 [[Dhelmise]] [[Power Whip]] even though it learns it at level 59. I have edited the relevant pages as best I can, but I think I've been a little clunky and unclear. Would someone take a look and try and smooth it out? Thanks :)
[[User:Noink|Noink]] ([[User talk:Noink|talk]]) 23:59, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

== Moving pages ==

I've noticed a few incidents in the last month or so relating to pages being moved, and just wanted to ask: why is moving pages not restricted to administrators? Do we have a good reason for that? Because it seems like page moves should be something that gets discussed rather than just being done. [[User:Xolroc|Xolroc]] ([[User talk:Xolroc|talk]]) 18:40, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
:I think just because you're not allowed to do things in some (or even in the majority of) cases, everyone shouldn't be restricted from doing things generally at all. I think TCG cards, for example, are meant to be qualified with the English expansion they first appeared in (such as [[Ninetales (Evolutions 15)]]), and that requires rather frequent page moves from their original Japanese that don't require that sort of discussion. (And, in general, I think there should be good reasons to restrict things, not to ''not'' restrict them.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 09:53, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
::Didn't think about the TCG cards. I was just thinking of it as something with high abuse potential--which is good reason to restrict something, I think, if there isn't equally good reason to not restrict it. [[User:Xolroc|Xolroc]] ([[User talk:Xolroc|talk]]) 14:31, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

== Category proposal ==

I feel like <nowiki>[[Category:Pokémon whose base stats decrease on evolution]]</nowiki> might be a worthwhile category to have. As an example of Pokémon who it would include, [[Caterpie (Pokémon)#Base stats|Caterpie]] would be in the category because [[Metapod (Pokémon)#Base stats|Metapod]] has lower Attack and Speed stats, despite being one evolution up. --[[User:Xolroc|Felthry]] (F.K.A. Xolroc) ([[User talk:Xolroc|talk]]) 01:20, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

==Phione dead link==

Hi a month or so ago I was looking through the Phione(Pokemon)page and in the trivia there was a link and right next to it a notice the link was dead I clicked on it to confirm and I thought "Whats the point of having a link if its dead?" so i figured it was pointlessly taking bytes and I removed it an hour later someone put it up again can you please tell me why? thanks :)

-marcel878 {{unsigned|marcel878}}

== Where's the page for which articles need images? ==

All I can find are <nowiki>[[Category:Articles needing better pictures]]</nowiki>. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 21:49, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
:I don't know that we have a specific one, but [[:Category:Articles needing improvement]] is the parent category, under which some of the potentially relevant subcategories are the one you found, <nowiki>[[:Category:Anime locations in need of images]]</nowiki>, and [[:Category:Moves in need of a screenshot]]. It's likely that many of the pages in [[:Category:Stubs]] need images.
:Additionally, I believe most of the time, people note that an article needs an image by simply noting it in the input text for the <code><nowiki>{{incomplete}}</nowiki></code> template. That template puts the page in [[:Category:Articles needing more information]], so that's another place that's likely to have a lot of pages needing images. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:56, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
::Damn, I was hoping it'd be more organized. Okay, well thanks Pumpkinking. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 22:13, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

== Tables ==

This site seems to be lacking the option to create tables. Which would come in handy in formatting soundtrack pages. I wanted to work on the ''[[Pocket Monster Sound Anime Collection]]'' page, but couldn't do it for that very reason. [[User:Sarujo|Sarujo]] ([[User talk:Sarujo|talk]]) 00:35, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

== Can't log in! ==

I've been using my iPad to brows bulbapedia, but when I want to edit I can't log in! The login option is blocked by the MASSIVE search bar. I thought the app would be better but it's not. I somehow got it to work by going through the archives, but I'm not doing that each time. Any ideas?--[[User:Grass4Lyfe|Grass4Lyfe]] ([[User talk:Grass4Lyfe|talk]]) 02:04, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
: I got the same issue when I'm on moblie. I always just change to desktop view, which makes the login option visible again. When logging in, make sure to check the "keep me logged in" box, so you won't have to log in each time. [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 15:01, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
::: I understand that but how do I actually enter desktop mode? Also, my iPad logs me out automatically after some time.--[[User:Grass4Lyfe|Grass4Lyfe]] ([[User talk:Grass4Lyfe|talk]]) 21:47, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
:::: I'm not really familiar with iPads, but there should be an option to request the desktop version in your browser. I don't know where that option is, but Google's your best friend. Also, checking the "keep me logged in" box should prevent you from logging out, so I'm not sure why you get logged out. The only reason I can think of right now is that your cookies get deleted upon exiting your browser. If this is the case, you should be fine if you disable this. I don't know how to do this on an iPad, so you'd have to look that up as well. Hope this helped. [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 12:26, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

== Mr. Hyper ==

This page is no longer a needed article, yet it is still listed under Needed Articles. That needs to be updated. [[User:APokemonTrainer|APokemonTrainer]] ([[User talk:APokemonTrainer|talk]]) 14:10, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

== Arceus base stats ==

I noticed while looking at Arceus' base stats that because "defense" is a longer word than the other stats the bar next to it makes it look bigger than the number says. It's not a huge deal but I thought I should point it out.

[[User:Slatehn|Slatehn]] ([[User talk:Slatehn|talk]]) 20:11, 21 October 2017 (UTC)Slatehn
:Hm, I'm not seeing that issue on any web browser I have convenient access to (Chrome and Edge on desktop; Safari on mobile; all the most recent versions afaik). Could you elaborate on what browser you're using that might be causing this problem? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 20:37, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

== Meowth filling in for Jessie or James ==

I put a few motto lyrics in this selection because I knew some of them from memory, so I hope you like it. Vanvan529 16:36, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

== Shiny variants ==

Was wondering if a photo of each shiny Pokemon can be added to the page alongside the photo of the Pokemon itself. I understand that it would be a massive project and would be happy to help, was going to ask before I even tried to add shiny photo. I know I have never known what a shiny Pokemon looked like playing Alpha sapphire and omega ruby and turned out I passed up many. [[User:Thehunter001|Thehunter001]] ([[User talk:Thehunter001|talk]]) 01:35, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
:The sprite section already has all the shiny forms, you can just look at that. If you're talking about official art, I don't think there are shiny variants of official artworks (outside of specific cases).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:52, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
::I am not finding the sprite page, and I was referring to the official artwork as it would be helpful to have when searching a Pokemon and seeing the shiny image alongside the photo of a normal. (Also I am unaware if there is any shiny variants on the official artwork) 04:02, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
:::If you mean you're having trouble finding the sprite section, it's at the bottom of the Pokémon's info page (see [[Bulbasaur#Sprites|Bulbasaur]]'s for example). As for official shiny artwork, there are only about 10 mons that have them (Gyarados for example), which should already be displayed on their page if applicable. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 04:12, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

== Ultra Pokedéx Order Update ==

Can I update the Alola dex number of the Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon pokémon? I am willing to and think it would be better than having the old alola dex number in their page. What I ask for is a editor to create a new parameter like the "u2dex" that reference to B2W2, so, could some editor create a "ultradex" or something? Then I can change the 370 pokémon that need it.[[User:Trainer Ray|Trainer Ray]] ([[User talk:Trainer Ray|talk]]) 02:09, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

== Uploading updated versions of image files ==
Hello, I am also new here, and I currently have an updated version of [[a:File:PlayerCharactersGrouped.png]] (with the player characters from [[Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon]] (the ones codenamed Ray and Ailey) neatly added above the ones from [[Pokémon Sun and Moon]] (the ones codenamed [[Sun (game)|Elio]] and [[Moon (game)|Selene]])), which I would like to upload. Do I also need to make a top secret number of edits and wait a top secret amount of time before I can upload image files (including updates to existing files)? [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 23:26, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
:Usually, you would need to talk to a member of staff about the page. For the characters, one of the staff would normally create the page and you will normally be free to edit it. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 23:50, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
I am new here to Bulbapedia. I have an updated version of the image [[a:File:PlayerCharactersGrouped.png]] which I would like to upload (it features the player characters from [[Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon]] above the ones from [[Pokémon Sun and Moon]]). How do I do this, especially when it's the case of replacing an existing image with a new version (as opposed to merely uploading a brand-new image with a new filename)? [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 00:11, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
:How do I edit the image? [[a:File:PlayerCharactersGrouped.png]] has no edit tab, and I am currently not allowed to create its discussion page [[:File_talk:PlayerCharactersGrouped.png]] in order to ask questions about the file to the previous uploader(s). Maybe it's because I still need to wait XXX days and make YYY edits and become autoconfirmed as per the FAQ? [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 00:24, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
::Image uploading is done on the [https://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page Bulbagarden Archives], so you're going to have to have an account there. You can only upload images once you are autoconfirmed, so you have to edit a few pages and be a user for a certain amount of time. Only then will you be able to upload an image.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:38, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

== Pokemon SMD info update on individual species pages ==
Hello, I've been viewing Bulbapedia for quite a while without editing. It's been a long time since PSMD was released, but there have been no additions of info on the individual Pokemon pages (location, quotes etc.) as has been done with PMD Red/Blue. I am willing to add this information, since I have collected all Pokemon in this game. However I am unsure which format I should use and what precautions should I take when doing so. Thank you. [[User:Remiccino|Remiccino]] ([[User talk:Remiccino|talk]]) 07:20, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
:Hello, nice to meet another editor keen to contribute to the MD games on this site! Firstly, what kind of information do you plan on collecting? For example, for most characters, their locations are less relevant as they are ''connected'' to instead of being ''recruited'', and the locations for most missions are semi-random. Pokémon no longer have quotes in dungeons (from memory), and recruitment rate, IQ, body size (beside normal vs Gigantic) no longer exist.
:Something that could be useful would be in regards to how to connect with them (currently the information is already on the [[Connection Orb]] page but would be useful on individual Pokémon pages as well) and having the new Pokémon portraits would also be useful (which another user is currently obtaining). (And if we look at Pinball example, there's really not much besides a portrait/image).
:However, you'll first need to make a new template for the SMD games much like this one [[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Template:Spindata/MDTDS]] before starting. Feel free to have a go at making a template - just make sure it's in the [[Bulbapedia:Sandbox]] (or on your userspace, but you'll need to make more edits before you can access that function).
:Sorry there are a few hoops you'll need to go through, but I hope I haven't turned you off editing here :) Also, this was a bit rushed so I hope it makes a bit of sense--[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(토크)''']] 07:57, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
::Hello, thank you very much for the info! I want to add portraits, how to connect with the Pokemon, and quotes. Yes, every Pokemon still has at least 2 dungeon quotes (the chance to trigger a quote is dramatically decreased so most people just assume they don't exist anymore), and some more unique overworld quotes for specific ones. Also, there is the information of what level the Pokemon starts at, what moves the Pokemon has by default etc. (like a Trainer's Pokemon), although it would not be very useful.
::As for the portraits, I currently have all of them extracted from the game, and if possible, I would like to help the other user in uploading them too. Every Pokemon has at least 3 portraits (normal, happy, hurt) and I wonder if it's good to include all of them.
::I tried to create a template and it ended up looking like this: [[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Sandbox#Test_template_for_PSMD_data]].
::Again, thank you for the detailed instructions! I have had editing experiences in other wikis, and have followed Bulbapedia since the old DPPt days, so I completely respect the code of conduct here. Hope to be contributing soon. :) [[User:Remiccino|Remiccino]] ([[User talk:Remiccino|talk]]) 09:47, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
:::Thanks for making a draft template, though I don't think it'll need the Pokémon's moves because I'm fairly sure they're random (and also not that relevant). I think their level may be fixed, but then again I'm not sure how important it is. Also, the template will need to be approved by staff first.
:::Do you have a Discord account? If not, would you be able to make one (you could even join the [https://discord.gg/bulbagarden Bulbagarden server] if you would like), and contact Lady Ariel#9665 on Discord. Lady Ariel (also a user here) has been the one doing most of the legwork for SMD here, so it would be good to get in contact (Lady Ariel will be offline atm though). Thanks!--[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(토크)''']] 10:03, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
::::Thanks for the speedy reply. Yes, I have a Discord account (in fact I've been searching for the link to the server, haha) and I'll be sure to contact Lady Ariel! And yes I think it would be best to leave the template as it is. Thank you again for the assistance, I really appreciate it! [[User:Remiccino|Remiccino]] ([[User talk:Remiccino|talk]]) 10:31, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

== Types of edits for auto-confirmation ==
Regarding the secret minimum amount of edits one must make in order to become auto-confirmed: do edits to talk pages (including this one) count towards this minimum, or must all of them be edits to article pages themselves (a.k.a. enyclopedic edits)? Because all edits I have done here that still stand today (that is, not reversed by an admin for whatever reason) are only talk-page edits, not article edits. [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 00:58, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
:They need to be mainspace edits.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:27, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
::I still don't quite get it. Aren't talk pages also part of the mainspace (like the articles themselves), or are they a separate namespace, just like userspaces are separate namespaces? [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 20:21, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
:::Mainspace articles are articles that don't have any prefixes to their name (like '''Talk:''' or '''User:''').--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:39, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

== Person being rude and personal on a talk page ==
If somebody is being sarcastic and unhelpful on a talk page, do we have the right to remove them from the talk? There is a person on the discussion page for Leaf that is making sarcastic and unhelpful quips over a debate about whether Green and Leaf should be separate pages or be made into one page. I don't care so much about the debate itself so much as how seriously some people seem to be taking it. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 10:08, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

== Autoconfirmation ==
I am an Autoconfirmed user on bulbapedia, but when I select "Upload file" it switches to archives, where I am not an Autoconfirmed user, so I receive a Permission error. I have read how Autoconfirmed status is achieved by contributing, however, the only thing I am able to do on archives is edit my Talk page, so I can see no way for me to achieve it. What am I to do? [[User:SteveW|SteveW]]'''''[[User talk:SteveW|☆]] 01:03, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
:You can add in or correct any summaries or add in any missing categories.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:20, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
::On bulbapedia or archives?[[User:SteveW|SteveW]]'''''[[User talk:SteveW|☆]] 18:15, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
:::The archives.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:39, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

== Bulbagarden forums are down? ==

I can't connect to them since yesterday.--[[User:Martianmister|Martianmister]] ([[User talk:Martianmister|talk]]) 11:00, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

== Bug-Catching Contest incomplete for Post-National Dex on Tuesday ==

On the bug-catching contest, for Pokemon encounters post-national dex it says that the new pokemon only applies for thursday and saturday, and on tuesday the encounters are the same as pre-national dex encounters. this is wrong and i dont know the encounter rate and am new to bulbapedia so i cannot fix it. ( i know this is wrong because im playing on a tuesday and i have encountered several combee, wurmple etc. which are supposed to be exclusively for thursday and saturday contests).
If someone could fix this or show me how to fix it i would be most grateful :)

--MegaGrowlithe 18:06, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
== User Templates ==
how do you place them and where can i find a list of them? [[User:Ivysaur colored Bulbasaur|Ivysaur colored Bulbasaur]] ([[User talk:Ivysaur colored Bulbasaur|talk]]) 03:26, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
:From [[:Category:User tags|Category:User tags]] you can work your way down to what you're looking for. If you want an example of how to implement them you are fee to take my User page as an example. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 12:33, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

==Sword and Sheild Locations==

I am a new member and would like to know how to go about setting the locations for some of the pokemon in Sword and Sheild. Is there a format that I should follow? is there someone specific I should ask?[[User:TheMoonRabbit06|TheMoonRabbit06]] ([[User talk:TheMoonRabbit06|talk]]) 20:47, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

== ロゼリアの覚えるわざ(Roselia learnset By breeding) ==
[[Giga Drain (move)]], [[Grass Whistle (move)]], [[Leaf Storm (move)]], [[Mind Reader (move)]], [[Natural Gift (move)]], [[Pin Missile (move)]], [[Razor Leaf (move)]], [[Seed Bomb (move)]], [[Sleep Powder (move)]], [[Spikes (move)]], [[Synthesis (move)]]のページの"Learnset""By breeding"の節でロゼリア(Roselia)が抜けていることに気付きました。誰か訂正できますか。[[User:シタビラメのダニエル|シタビラメのダニエル]] ([[User talk:シタビラメのダニエル|talk]]) 03:19, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

== Bulbagarden home page ==

This isn't exactly important, but I feel compelled to point out that the Bulbagarden home page has been missing its favicon for a while now. [[User:Crunchdog29|Crunchdog29]] ([[User talk:Crunchdog29|talk]]) 22:58, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
:Oh, yeah. So it does. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 23:58, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

== Issue with Sword and Shield Type Effectiveness Charts ==

So I created an account to try and help with this, but I'm not sure if I'm entirely right on it. I noticed that when you go to some of the new Sword and Shield Pokemon pages, the type effectiveness chart says at the top "Under normal circumstances in Generation VII..." but isn't Sword and Shield generation VIII? It says so everywhere else on the page, just in that blurb above the type effectiveness it has incorrect numbering. This is on multiple pages, I just happened to notice it on Cursola and SirFetch'd's page. Maybe there's someone who can go back and double check this for all sword and shield exclusive listings because how would a Pokemon be under battle conditions in a generation it didn't exist? I also am not able to edit that portion of the page so maybe a mod/admin can do it if it is incorrect. {{unsigned|Silverx2624}}

EDIT: Seems someone saw this and it's been fixed (at least on the pages I looked at) thanks for being so swift mysterious person!

[[User:Silverx2624|Silverx2624]] ([[User talk:Silverx2624|talk]]) 17:52, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

== Vandal Filter 3? ==

Hi, why can't I edit a discussion page?

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Ice_Scales_(Ability)

Initially I had made a discussion thread without a title (due to not seeing the nearly invisible + button to start a thread) and I want to remove that, since it's, well, not needed now. The problem is I can't since I keep getting the Vandal Filter 3 error.

From what I can gather this is some form of anti-editing feature which... begs the question why on earth does it even exist? [[User:Acumenium|Acumenium]] ([[User talk:Acumenium|talk]]) 21:55, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Bulbapedia talk:Editor's Hub/Archive 1

2020-10-06T21:54:55Z

Acumenium: /* Vandal Filter 3? */ new section

Talk:Ice Scales (Ability)

2020-10-06T21:50:56Z

Acumenium: /* Ice Scales should not be a variation of Huge Power */ new section

How exactly is Ice Scales a "variation" of Huge Power? It has nothing to do with doubling a stat. It rather cuts the damage taken by attacks that utilize the attacker's Special Attack stat in half. It's a damage reduction, not a stat modification. [[User:Acumenium|Acumenium]] ([[User talk:Acumenium|talk]]) 21:46, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

== Ice Scales should not be a variation of Huge Power ==

How exactly is Ice Scales a "variation" of Huge Power? It has nothing to do with doubling a stat. It rather cuts the damage taken by attacks that utilize the attacker's Special Attack stat in half. It's a damage reduction, not a stat modification. [[User:Acumenium|Acumenium]] ([[User talk:Acumenium|talk]]) 21:50, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Fur Coat (Ability)

2020-10-06T21:50:21Z

Acumenium:

==Psyshock==
Psyshock and Psycho Break are not affected, right? I know it says physical moves, but those are calculated weirdly, so I wonder if a note of it should be made if they aren't affected. I think it definitely deserves a mention, at least on their pages, if they are. --[[User:WyndFox|Wynd]] [[User talk:WyndFox|Fox]] 02:56, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
:Psyshock is affected. Fur Coat reduces the damage of any attack that would end up doing physical damage. Psyshock uses the attacker's Special Attack but deals physical damage. It has absolutely nothing to do with the defense stat itself. [[User:Acumenium|Acumenium]] ([[User talk:Acumenium|talk]]) 21:48, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

==Moves with fixed damage==
Does Fur Coat affect moves like Seismic Toss, Super Fang, Bide, OHKO moves, and others that always deal a certain amount of damage?--[[User:ShadowLugiaEx|ShadowLugiaEx]] ([[User talk:ShadowLugiaEx|talk]]) 23:01, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

== Fur Coat should not be a variation of Huge and Pure Power ==

It does not double a stat. Rather, what it does is it cuts the damage of any attack that hits on your physical defense. This would even include Psyshock since it is a physical damage attack that utilizes the attacker's Special Attack stat.

A variation should be the same function. This Ability is not one. [[User:Acumenium|Acumenium]] ([[User talk:Acumenium|talk]]) 21:50, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Fur Coat (Ability)

2020-10-06T21:50:07Z

Acumenium: /* Fur Coat should not be a variation of Huge and Pure Power */ new section

Talk:Fur Coat (Ability)

2020-10-06T21:48:44Z

Acumenium:

Talk:Ice Scales (Ability)

2020-10-06T21:46:36Z

Acumenium:

Talk:Ice Scales (Ability)

2020-10-06T21:46:19Z

Acumenium: Created page with "How exactly is Ice Scales a "variation" of Huge Power? It has nothing to do with doubling a stat. It rather cuts the damage taken by attacks that utilize the attacker's Specia..."

Lucky Egg

2020-03-28T07:57:10Z

Acumenium: Fixed a display error ("runaway comma")

{{ItemInfobox/head
|name=Lucky Egg
|jname=しあわせタマゴ
|jtrans=Lucky Egg
|gen=II
|colorscheme=items
|fling=yes
}}
{{ItemInfobox/BagRow|II|Items}}
{{ItemInfobox/BagRow|III|Items}}
{{ItemInfobox/BagRow|IV|Items}}
{{ItemInfobox/BagRow|V|Items|group=Held items}}
{{ItemInfobox/BagRow|VI|Items}}
{{ItemInfobox/BagRow|VII|Items}}
{{ItemInfobox/BagRowBottom|VIII|Other Items}}
{{ItemInfobox/Fling‎|30|colorscheme=items}}
|}

The '''Lucky Egg''' (Japanese: '''しあわせタマゴ''' ''Lucky Egg'') is a type of item introduced in [[Generation II]].

==In the games==
===Price===
{{ItemPrice/head‎|items}}
{{ItemPrice|{{gameabbrev2|GSC}} {{gameabbrev3|RSEFRLG}} {{gameabbrev4|DPPtHGSS}} {{gameabbrev5|BWB2W2}} {{gameabbrev6|XYORAS}}|N/A|{{PDollar}}100}}
{{ItemPrice|{{gameabbrev7|SMUSUM}} {{gameabbrev8|SwSh}}|N/A|{{PDollar}}5,000}}
|}
|}
In the [[Generation V]] games, the Lucky Egg can be sold to the {{DL|Item maniac|gourmet maniac}} on {{rt|5|Unova}} for {{PDollar}}200.

===Effect===
The [[Held item|holding]] {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} gains 150% the [[experience]] it would otherwise gain.

===Description===
{{movedesc|items}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev2|GSC}}|Earns extra <sc>Exp.</sc> points. (HOLD)}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|RSE}} {{gameabbrevss|Colo}}{{gameabbrevss|XD}}|A hold item that boosts <sc>Exp.</sc> points earned in battle.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|FRLG}}|An item to be held by a <sc>Pokémon</sc>. An egg filled with happiness that earns extra <sc>Exp.</sc> points in battle.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev4|DPPtHGSS}} {{gameabbrev5|BWB2W2}}|An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is an egg filled with happiness that earns extra Exp. Points in battle.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev6|XYORAS}} {{gameabbrev7|SMUSUM}} {{gameabbrev8|SwSh}}|An item to be held by a Pokémon. It's an egg filled with happiness that earns extra Exp. Points in battle.}}
|}
|}

===Acquisition===
{{ItemAvailability/head|items}}
|-
| {{gameabbrev2|GSC}}
|
| Held by {{wild|Chansey|g=2}} (2% chance)
|-
| {{gameabbrev3|RSE}}
|
| ''[[Trade]]''
|-
| {{gameabbrev3|FRLG}}
|
| Held by {{wild|Chansey}} (5% chance)
|-
| {{gameabbrevss|Colo}}
|
| ''[[Trade]]''
|-
| {{gameabbrevss|XD}}
| [[Agate Village]]
|
|-
| {{gameabbrev4|DPPt}}
|
| Held by {{wild|Chansey}} (5% chance)
|-
| {{gameabbrev4|HGSS}}
|
| Held by {{wild|Chansey}} (5% chance)
|-
| {{gameabbrev5|BW}}
| [[Chargestone Cave]]
| {{rt|13|Unova}} ({{DL|Unova Route 13|treasure hunter}}) Held by {{wild|Happiny}} (5% chance){{sup/5|W}}
|-
| {{gameabbrev5|B2W2}}
| [[Celestial Tower]]
|
|-
| {{gameabbrevss|DW}}
|
| {{dwa|Dream Park}}
|-
| {{gameabbrev6|XY}}
| [[Coumarine City]]
| Held by {{wild|Chansey}} (5% chance)
|-
| {{gameabbrev6|ORAS}}
|
| Held by {{wild|Pelipper}} (5% chance) and {{wild|Happiny}} (5% chance)
|-
| {{gameabbrevss|PMC}}
|
| {{DL|PokéMileage Club|Graffiti Eraser}} (Lv. 2)
|-
| {{gameabbrev7|SMUSUM}}
| {{rt|1|Alola}} Hau'oli Outskirts
| Held by {{wild|Blissey}} (5% chance){{sup/7|USUM}}
|-
| {{gameabbrev8|SwSh}}
| [[Hulbury]]
|
|}
|}

==In spin-off games==
[[File:GO Lucky Egg.png|thumb|200px|A Lucky Egg in Pokémon GO]]
===Pokémon GO===
Using a Lucky Egg doubles the experience points earned by the player for the next 30 minutes.

====Description====
{{movedesc|items}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrevss|GO}}|A Lucky Egg that's filled with happiness! Earns double XP for 30 minutes.}}
|}
|}

====Acquisition====
Lucky Eggs can be purchased at any time from the in-game {{DL|PokéCoin|Shop}} with [[PokéCoin]]s. The player will also receive a Lucky Egg at [[Trainer level|level]] 9 and every 5 levels starting from level 10.
{{-}}

==In the TCG==
[[File:LuckyEggArceus88.jpg|thumb|200px|Lucky Egg]]
{{main|Lucky Egg (Arceus 88)}}
The '''Lucky Egg''' was introduced as a {{TCG|Pokémon Tool}} {{TCG|Trainer card}} in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]] during the English Platinum Series (the Japanese Platinum Era) in the {{TCG|Platinum: Arceus|Arceus}} expansion. It was first reprinted in {{TCG|Sword & Shield}}.

If the Pokémon it is attached to is Knocked Out and put in the discard pile by damage from an opponent's attack, the player draws cards until they have 7 cards in their hand.
{{-}}

==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{items color light}}|bordercolor={{items color}}
|zh_yue=幸運蛋 ''{{tt|Hahngwahn Dáan|Lucky Egg}}''
|zh_cmn=幸運蛋 / 幸运蛋 ''{{tt|Xìngyùn Dàn|Lucky Egg}}''
|da=Lucky Egg
|nl=Geluksei
|fi=Onnenmuna
|fr=Œuf Chance
|de=Glücks-Ei
|it=Fortunuovo
|ko=행복의알 ''Haengbog-ui Al''
|no=Lykkeegg
|pl=Jajo Szczęścia
|pt_br=Ovo da Sorte
|ru=Удачливые Яйца ''Udachlivyye Yaytsa''
|es=Huevo Suerte
|sv=Lucky Egg
}}
{{-}}
{{Project ItemDex notice}}

[[Category:Held items]]
[[Category:Items in Pokémon GO]]

[[de:Glücks-Ei]]
[[es:Huevo suerte]]
[[fr:Œuf Chance]]
[[it:Fortunuovo]]
[[ja:しあわせタマゴ]]
[[zh:幸运蛋（道具）]]

Lucky Egg

2020-03-28T05:45:02Z

Acumenium: Lucky Egg has never been a "Pickup" item in any game. This was an error reported by Serebii many years ago that was never fixed on this page.

{{ItemInfobox/head
|name=Lucky Egg
|jname=しあわせタマゴ
|jtrans=Lucky Egg
|gen=II
|colorscheme=items
|fling=yes
}}
{{ItemInfobox/BagRow|II|Items}}
{{ItemInfobox/BagRow|III|Items}}
{{ItemInfobox/BagRow|IV|Items}}
{{ItemInfobox/BagRow|V|Items|group=Held items}}
{{ItemInfobox/BagRow|VI|Items}}
{{ItemInfobox/BagRow|VII|Items}}
{{ItemInfobox/BagRowBottom|VIII|Other Items}}
{{ItemInfobox/Fling‎|30|colorscheme=items}}
|}

The '''Lucky Egg''' (Japanese: '''しあわせタマゴ''' ''Lucky Egg'') is a type of item introduced in [[Generation II]].

==In the games==
===Price===
{{ItemPrice/head‎|items}}
{{ItemPrice|{{gameabbrev2|GSC}} {{gameabbrev3|RSEFRLG}} {{gameabbrev4|DPPtHGSS}} {{gameabbrev5|BWB2W2}} {{gameabbrev6|XYORAS}}|N/A|{{PDollar}}100}}
{{ItemPrice|{{gameabbrev7|SMUSUM}} {{gameabbrev8|SwSh}}|N/A|{{PDollar}}5,000}}
|}
|}
In the [[Generation V]] games, the Lucky Egg can be sold to the {{DL|Item maniac|gourmet maniac}} on {{rt|5|Unova}} for {{PDollar}}200.

===Effect===
The [[Held item|holding]] {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} gains 150% the [[experience]] it would otherwise gain.

===Description===
{{movedesc|items}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev2|GSC}}|Earns extra <sc>Exp.</sc> points. (HOLD)}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|RSE}} {{gameabbrevss|Colo}}{{gameabbrevss|XD}}|A hold item that boosts <sc>Exp.</sc> points earned in battle.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|FRLG}}|An item to be held by a <sc>Pokémon</sc>. An egg filled with happiness that earns extra <sc>Exp.</sc> points in battle.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev4|DPPtHGSS}} {{gameabbrev5|BWB2W2}}|An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is an egg filled with happiness that earns extra Exp. Points in battle.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev6|XYORAS}} {{gameabbrev7|SMUSUM}} {{gameabbrev8|SwSh}}|An item to be held by a Pokémon. It's an egg filled with happiness that earns extra Exp. Points in battle.}}
|}
|}

===Acquisition===
{{ItemAvailability/head|items}}
|-
| {{gameabbrev2|GSC}}
|
| Held by {{wild|Chansey|g=2}} (2% chance)
|-
| {{gameabbrev3|RSE}}
|
| ''[[Trade]]''
|-
| {{gameabbrev3|FRLG}}
|
| Held by {{wild|Chansey}} (5% chance)
|-
| {{gameabbrevss|Colo}}
|
| ''[[Trade]]''
|-
| {{gameabbrevss|XD}}
| [[Agate Village]]
|
|-
| {{gameabbrev4|DPPt}}
|
| Held by {{wild|Chansey}} (5% chance)
|-
| {{gameabbrev4|HGSS}}
|
| Held by {{wild|Chansey}} (5% chance)
|-
| {{gameabbrev5|BW}}
| [[Chargestone Cave]]
| {{rt|13|Unova}} ({{DL|Unova Route 13|treasure hunter}}), Held by {{wild|Happiny}} (5% chance){{sup/5|W}}
|-
| {{gameabbrev5|B2W2}}
| [[Celestial Tower]]
|
|-
| {{gameabbrevss|DW}}
|
| {{dwa|Dream Park}}
|-
| {{gameabbrev6|XY}}
| [[Coumarine City]]
| Held by {{wild|Chansey}} (5% chance)
|-
| {{gameabbrev6|ORAS}}
|
| Held by {{wild|Pelipper}} (5% chance) and {{wild|Happiny}} (5% chance)
|-
| {{gameabbrevss|PMC}}
|
| {{DL|PokéMileage Club|Graffiti Eraser}} (Lv. 2)
|-
| {{gameabbrev7|SMUSUM}}
| {{rt|1|Alola}} Hau'oli Outskirts
| Held by {{wild|Blissey}} (5% chance){{sup/7|USUM}}
|-
| {{gameabbrev8|SwSh}}
| [[Hulbury]]
|
|}
|}

==In spin-off games==
[[File:GO Lucky Egg.png|thumb|200px|A Lucky Egg in Pokémon GO]]
===Pokémon GO===
Using a Lucky Egg doubles the experience points earned by the player for the next 30 minutes.

====Description====
{{movedesc|items}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrevss|GO}}|A Lucky Egg that's filled with happiness! Earns double XP for 30 minutes.}}
|}
|}

====Acquisition====
Lucky Eggs can be purchased at any time from the in-game {{DL|PokéCoin|Shop}} with [[PokéCoin]]s. The player will also receive a Lucky Egg at [[Trainer level|level]] 9 and every 5 levels starting from level 10.
{{-}}

==In the TCG==
[[File:LuckyEggArceus88.jpg|thumb|200px|Lucky Egg]]
{{main|Lucky Egg (Arceus 88)}}
The '''Lucky Egg''' was introduced as a {{TCG|Pokémon Tool}} {{TCG|Trainer card}} in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]] during the English Platinum Series (the Japanese Platinum Era) in the {{TCG|Platinum: Arceus|Arceus}} expansion. It was first reprinted in {{TCG|Sword & Shield}}.

If the Pokémon it is attached to is Knocked Out and put in the discard pile by damage from an opponent's attack, the player draws cards until they have 7 cards in their hand.
{{-}}

==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{items color light}}|bordercolor={{items color}}
|zh_yue=幸運蛋 ''{{tt|Hahngwahn Dáan|Lucky Egg}}''
|zh_cmn=幸運蛋 / 幸运蛋 ''{{tt|Xìngyùn Dàn|Lucky Egg}}''
|da=Lucky Egg
|nl=Geluksei
|fi=Onnenmuna
|fr=Œuf Chance
|de=Glücks-Ei
|it=Fortunuovo
|ko=행복의알 ''Haengbog-ui Al''
|no=Lykkeegg
|pl=Jajo Szczęścia
|pt_br=Ovo da Sorte
|ru=Удачливые Яйца ''Udachlivyye Yaytsa''
|es=Huevo Suerte
|sv=Lucky Egg
}}
{{-}}
{{Project ItemDex notice}}

[[Category:Held items]]
[[Category:Items in Pokémon GO]]

[[de:Glücks-Ei]]
[[es:Huevo suerte]]
[[fr:Œuf Chance]]
[[it:Fortunuovo]]
[[ja:しあわせタマゴ]]
[[zh:幸运蛋（道具）]]

Talk:Pickup (Ability)

2020-03-28T05:44:17Z

Acumenium: /* Pokémon Black and White Pickup Table Error */

== Zigzagoon and Linoone abilities? ==

zigzagoon & linoone have a second ability now, fyi --[[User:ANinyMouse|ANinyMouse]] 10:19, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:Working on that. [[User:Gambler|Gambler]] 23:36, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
::Should we separate it based on R/S and D/P? [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 05:39, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
:::You think? Isn't that too much work? After all, when D/P are here not many people are going to care about G III. [[User:Gambler|Gambler]] 05:46, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
::::What if you add something like an asterisk, and underneath note that pokemon marked with an asterisk have only pickup in generation III? [[User:Kendai|Kendai]] 11:06, September 13 2007
:::::Well, now, personally, I think that it should be left as is. People will note that the ability beneath wasn't there in Gen III, so therefore, Zigzagoon/Linoone/whatever else couldn't have it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 08:44, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::That's assuming everyone looking at the page knows by memory which are new in IV, and it can't really hurt the article to have that memo added can it? [[User:Kendai|Kendai]] 18:25 September 15, 2007

== Gale Of Darkness? ==

Some Pokemon have this ability in Gale of Darkness. Anyone know the chart of what is grabbed?[[User:Machinedramon|Machinedramon]] 01:26, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
* Indeed, the results are unique to XD and possibly colo (Great Balls, no repel.) --[[User:Deuxhero|Deuxhero]] 17:31, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
* I can confirm that with my team of 91+ Linoone I've picked up all the level appropriate items listed in the Emerald chart EXCEPT the TM for Earthquake( yet, hopefully ). As XD was released AFTER Emerald should I just go ahead and list the two together under the same chart? [[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] ([[User talk:FromCrimsonToWool|talk]]) 19:40, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

== Multiple Pickups ==

I've tried making a party with a meowth, a linoone, a phanpy, a pachirisu and an aipom who all have pickup but only one will pickup an item at a time. this may be a coincidence as I havn't been doing it for very long but if anyone else notices this it might be worth mentioning on the page. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 00:56, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
:It's coincidence. I have a team of six Pachirisus; I just tested, and two of them were able to pickup in the same battle. — [[User:Laoris|Laoris]] ([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]]) 02:02, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

::Each Pickup works individually. If you're really lucky, you could take a team of six Pickuppers into a battle and all six could Pickup an item after each battle. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:45, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

:::I would like to verify this claim as well. As the same applies to the ability Honey Gather. As a result, it is possible to initiate a honey harvest with a full party of Combee. --[[User:HechEff|HechEff]] 17:09, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

:::It does seem, however, that you need to actually use the Pokémon in battle. I could be wrong, but I've never seen a pickup with someone I didn't use. [[User:Fire95|Fire95]] 03:27, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

:::You do NOT have to use the particular Pokémon in battle. [[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] ([[User talk:FromCrimsonToWool|talk]]) 19:42, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

== Double Hyper Potions? ==
In the chart, for levels 1-10 of Diamond and Pearl, it lists Hyper Potion twice, in the 5% and the 1% sections. So, is it 6%, or is it one or the other, or what? [[User:TCABF|TCABF]] 21:57, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
:No, there's a mistake there. Thanks for picking that up. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 07:41, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
::It still lists double Hyper Potions in the DPPt table (level 1-10). The same is also happening with the BW2/XY table, and also the ORAS table. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 01:39, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

== pokémon mystery dungeon ==
What effect does this ability have in pokémon mystery dungeon?--[[User:Fern 24|Fern]] [[User talk:Fern 24|24]] 06:12, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
:This is a very late response, but the pickup ability is still not noted here. Pickup will let the Pokémon find a random item (haven't done any testing of ''what'' though) on chance when moving down floors. How to integrate it into this article? It's a challenge. It would need to be noted in the "in battle" and "outside of battle" sections, I think. -- [[User:Pokey|Pokey]] 15:32, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
::I believe that it is a random item that is able to appear on that floor that is picked up. It would be in a "In Pokémon Mystery Dungeon" sub-section under "Effect". --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:26, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
:::It seems that this still hasn't been adressed. Picking up an item that can be found on the floor definitely sounds right, but I don't know if a guess should be treated as a fact and I don't have access to the code. [[User:EnosShayrem|Enos]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|Shay]][[Kyurem (Pokémon)|rem]][[User_talk:EnosShayrem|Talk]] 03:05, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

== 10% chance after a battle ==

Sorry for being a noob, but does running away count as a battle? --[[User:Qwertyasdf|(QQ)∞wertyasdf]] 08:02, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
:Well, initially I thought it would, but after spending half an hour running away from wild Pokémon, neither of my two pickupers have picked anything up yet. That doesn't necessarily mean that running away doesn't count as a battle for the purpose of pickup, I could just be really unlucky at the moment, but each time I run away it gets less likely that it does. In short it seems that it doesn't count as a battle. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:41, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

::Running does not count as a battle. The battle must be finished. I don't know if that means it will work if you lose, but it won't work until the battle is fully completed. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 17:39, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Would like to note that it doesn't seem to trigger when you catch a pokemon, either (At least not in Emerald). I'm only in Granite Cave at the moment, but my team of 4 Zigzagoons has yet to pick up anything after I've caught something, even after catching 6 Arons while hoping for a good nature - not to mention catching one of each pokemon so far in each route. [[User:Roobertoober|Roobertoober]] 08:12, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

:Ive had a problem where my pokémon with pickup can't pick up items. This is in Pokémon Black and my pokémon has been in at least 30 complete battles and still not picked up any items. I am wondering if this pokemon is not picking up items when it tries to evolve but is canceled after leveling up? [[User:Zombiedude347|Zombiedude347]] ([[User talk:Zombiedude347|talk]]) 13:01, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

== Odds of picking up an item in Generation III? ==

Neither the chart for FR/LG nor Ruby/Sapphire explains why the percentages listed don't add up even close to 100%. Someone who knows wtf, please explain. {{unsigned|Doctorhook}}
:it means that the other 70% of the time you pick-up nothing. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:26, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

::It doesn't come close in D/P either. maybe in gen III its ~3% and in gen IV its ~5%? Because playing the game you can tell the pickup rate is not 10%. [[User:Fire95|Fire95]] 03:24, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

==Error in tables==
In Pokemon Soul Silver, my level 51 Linoone just picked up an Iron Ball. According to the chart, that should be impossible. Perhaps some verification of the charts is called for. [[User:Istanbul|Istanbul]]
:I'm guessing that it had recently leveled up from level 50, where picking up an [[Iron Ball]] is possible. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:16, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
::Hmm... did you level up during the battle right before you noticed? Or did you not notice for a while, level up, and then notice later? '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 12:23, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
:::According to my guide, Lucky Eggs are not a pickup item so they should be replaced with Iron Ball and then Ether is to go where Iron Ball presently is. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 13:38, 3 May 2010 (UTC))
::::I've received three more Iron Balls from my level 51 Linoones since then. I can categorically state without a hint of doubt that obtaining Iron Balls from a level 51 Linoone is definitely possible. It's still a rare drop, but I've tested this to death. [[User:Istanbul|Istanbul]]
:::::Well Serebii agrees with us, but I think someone with "the know-how" should take a look at the game's code to see what it really is. Perhaps HG and SS have different Pickup lists, and we have Heart Gold's. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:03, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Serebii knows his values are wrong... the real question is WHY are they the same... ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 09:23, 5 May 2010 (UTC))
:::::::There, I fixed the list... may this be a reminder to the next person who decides to just copy from serebii.net without checking the information out themselves first. Before anyone asks, no, the double Full Heals for levels 1-10 was not an error. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 11:06, 5 May 2010 (UTC))
::::::::If they're not an error, then how is it possible? [[User:KurosakisTwin|KurosakisTwin]] 05:57, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Merely Full Heal is coded twice in the game. Once for each rate. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:00, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
:I think Black/White may have a similar error. I just pulled an Iron Ball off of my Level 52 Lillipup in White.[[User:Zereijin|Zereijin]] 09:14, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

== 10% chance ==

Does anyone know if this percentage has changed for gen V? I've been keeping a Yorterrie as a Pickup slave in my White version but it has only ever picked up an item once, even though I've been in like... at least fifty battles.

Has there been a change, or am I just that unlucky? :/ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 16:20, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

== Different Item lists for Battle Pyramid? ==

Acording to this paage (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sacred_Ash#Generation_III) you can get Sacred Ash through pickup in the Battle Frontier Pyramid in Emerald. I also got an item there that is not int he list. Is this correct? Is there a different list when you are in the Battle Pyramid? [[User:Migrant|Migrant]] 15:13, 29 October 2010 (UTC) Migrant
:Yes, the Battle Pyramid has a different item system. Unfortunately, we don't seem to have any information on that at the moment :/ —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:12, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
::[http://www.psypokes.com/rsefrlg/pickup.php Here] is one such list for the Battle Pyramid, although I can't vouch for its accuracy. {{unsigned|GoldenSandslash15}}

== Max Elixer ==

In Soul Silver, my level 91 pickup frequently finds Max Elixer, which is not on any hg/ss chart I have found. The only 91-100 items I have not yet found are leftovers and PP Max. [[User:Ct42|Ct42]] 07:13, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm having a similar problem with Pokemon White, I'm using my all level 91+ pickup team from gen 4 and my Munchlax just found a Max Ether. I have so far found at least one of
everything except PP Max, Leftovers and Prism Scale which are listed at that range.--[[User:Amplify|Amplify]] 17:43, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
:http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4347642&postcount=956 The theory is that they are both 4% rather than 3% and 5%. Smilarly to how the last 2 are the same percent. It still requires final testing. {{unsigned|Lucky V4.0}}

== Participant? ==

Do Pokemon with Pickup have to participate in the battle to pick up, or can anyone complete the battle? Thanks :) [[User:Toa Orka|Toa Orka]] 21:22, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
:No, the Pokémon with Pickup doesn't have to participate in the battle. --[[User:Carmenstar97|Carmen]] ''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|(Talk |]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|contribs)]]'' 21:28, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

== 10% - 30%? ==

I've been looking this over, and I was noting "...has a 10% chance of picking up an item...", and the fact that the percentages only add up to 49%. Does this mean that each battle only gives a 4.9% chance of giving an ACTUAL item that you can take from your pokemon? Or should I effectively double the item percentages, to get it to 98%, which is in my level of tolerance for such a thing? Or is it simply a 49% chance of picking up an item?

I'm playing Black at the moment, by the way. If that matters. --[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 10:06, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
:Could probably be clearer, but each column is separate. At any particular level there are six items which have a ten percent chance of being picked up and two items which have a 1% chance of being picked up. i.e. 30 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 10 + 5 + 3 + 1 + 1 = 100 [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:25, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
::I see. It has a 10% chance of picking up ANYTHING, and then the table percentages are for WHAT it picks up, given that it does pick up anything. I understand now. Thank you! --[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 03:12, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

== HGSS Pickup ==

From levels 1-10, Full Heal appears twice... is that correct? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:06, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
:No it is not. Full Heal only appears once in Levels 1-10 and that is the the 10% section. The Full Heal in the 1% bit should be a Max Repel. I'll change it now. [[User:Rainbow Shifter|Rainbow Shifter]] ([[User talk:Rainbow Shifter|talk]]) 08:56, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

== 4% and 4%, not 3% and 5% ==

It's been discovered that the percentages are 4% and 4% not 3% and 5% for the 3rd and 4th columns to the end. http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4347642&postcount=956 [[User:Lucky V4.0|Lucky V4.0]] ([[User talk:Lucky V4.0|talk]]) 16:58, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

After doing some testing, I can confirm that it's "4%+4%" on Pokemon Diamond with Lv100-Pickup-Pokemon, as well. I'm starting to think that it's like that for all levels and possibly all Gen4-games. Can anyone point me to where the "5%+3%" comes from or is confirmed? The official DP-Pokedex2 list both slots as "Occasionally" but none of them as more often than the other. [[User:TCCPhreak|TCCPhreak]] ([[User talk:TCCPhreak|talk]]) 12:39, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

== Incorrect table? ==

My LvL 41 Lillipup just picked up an ether, which isn't in the table for its level, or at all for that matter [[User:Torterra2234|Torterra; Earthquake!]] ([[User talk:Torterra2234|talk]]) 22:38, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
:Are you playing sequels or original games? Because things could change in sequels. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 19:46, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
::Same, in my Black 2 my lv.31 Lillipup seems to have picked up an ether [[User:LadyH|LadyH]] ([[User talk:LadyH|talk]]) 04:29, 28 December 2012 (UTC)LadyH
:::Obviously the table is changed. It's also missing Battle Pyramid and Orre games. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 09:33, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

== Picking up trainer items? ==

I was battling the daily Hugh battle in Driftveil a week ago and my Lillipup pickup slave managed to pickup the focus sash, only to immediately use it after being hit by Hugh's Serperior. Ever since then I've been trying to get my Lillipup to pick up the focus sash with no success.

Does anyone have more information on how pickup works on trainer consumables? Is it a percentage chance like for other items, or am I doing something wrong? Originally, I switched Lillipup in more than a turn after the Serperior had used the Focus Sash, as well as died. I'd really like to keep that Focus Sash. [[User:Rimas lxbya|Rimas lxbya]] ([[User talk:Rimas lxbya|talk]]) 04:11, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

I guess my memory was a bit shady when I posted this, because a couple of days after I posted that, I went back with and triggered the Focus Sash with my Ambipom, at which point Ambipom picked it up. The Focus Sash was not used up while Ambipom was holding it, but he still did not keep it once the battle was over. It seems you cannot keep items you obtain through pickup in a trainer battle. [[User:Rimas lxbya|Rimas lxbya]] ([[User talk:Rimas lxbya|talk]]) 00:49, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

== Source for Diamond Pickup Table ==

I plan to correct the table for diamond/pearl/platinum; thought I'd source it before:

english diamond, offset 1DDB64 has the table for the "non-rare" items. First nine items are for the Lv01-Lv10-row:
<code>
* 1100 Potion
* 1200 Antidote
* 1a00 Super Potion
* 0300 Great Ball
* 4f00 Repel
* 4e00 Escape Rope
* 1b00 Full Heal
* 1900 Hyper Potion
* 0200 Ultra Ball
* 1c00 Revive
</code>

afterwards, only the new item is supplied:
<code>
* 3200 Rare Candy (starting Lv11, Potion is shifted out)
* 6C00 Dusk Stone (starting Lv21, Antidote is shifted out)
* 6B00 Shiny Stone (starting Lv31)
* 6D00 Dawn Stone
* 1700 Full Restore
* 1D00 Max Revive
* 3300 PP Up
* 2900 Max Elixir
</code>

offset 1DDA88 has the rare items, same shifting but with only two slots, it doesn't look as diagonal as the non-rare-slots:
<code>
* 1900 Hyper Potion
* 5C00 Nugget
* DD00 King's Rock
* 1700 Full Restore
* 2600 Ether
* D600 White Herb
* 7301 TM44
* 2800 Elixir
* 4801 TM01
* EA00 Leftovers
* 6101 TM26
</code>
Note that the first item is Hyper Potion - not Revive. Official Pokedex2 confirms Hyper Potion. I guess, most of the other tables on the net were copied from the same (wrong) source.
--[[User:TCCPhreak|TCCPhreak]] ([[User talk:TCCPhreak|talk]]) 12:29, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

== Generation VI ==

My Lv. 56 Linoone just picked up an Iron Ball. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 21:07, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
: And now an Escape Rope and a Prism Scale. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 21:28, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
: And now a Full Heal. My Level 61 Linoone also picked up a Full Heal. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 23:53, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
: My level 61 picked up a Rare Candy [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 00:07, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
: My level 52 also picked up a Rare Candy [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 03:15, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
: My level 33 picked up an Ether [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 04:15, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

My Lv. 87 Linoone picked up an everstone?--[[User:FrozenLinkz|FrozenLinkz]] ([[User talk:FrozenLinkz|talk]]) 19:16, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
: Hey, this isn't 6 months old! Yeah, my level 66 Linoone just picked up an Elixir. I don't think this list is quite correct. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 23:39, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

== Source for Generation VI ==
0x4455A8 in exefs\code.bin- Pickup items (Discovered by magical)

Same structure as DPPt, and is identical to B2W2. I'm thinking Everstone may be an incorrect report or a nonstandard edge case.

// Base: Slots 0-8
// Take 9
// Start at Entry: Level/10
* 11 00 - Potion
* 12 00 - Antidote
* 1A 00 - Super Potion
* 03 00 - Great Ball
* 4F 00 - Repel
* 4E 00 - Escape Rope
* 1B 00 - Full Heal
* 19 00 - Hyper Potion
* 02 00 - Ultra Ball
--end 01-10
* 1C 00 - Revive
* 32 00 - Rare Candy
* 50 00 - Sun Stone
* 51 00 - Moon Stone
* 5D 00 - Heart Scale
* 17 00 - Full Restore
* 1D 00 - Max Revive
* 33 00 - PP Up
* 29 00 - Max Elixir

// Rare: Slots 9-10
// Take 2
// Start at Entry: Level/10
* 19 00 - Hyper Potion
* 5C 00 - Nugget
* DD 00 - King's Rock
* 17 00 - Full Restore
* 26 00 - Ether
* 16 01 - Iron Ball
* 19 02 - Prism Scale
* 28 00 - Elixir
* 19 02 - Prism Scale
* EA 00 - Leftovers
* 19 02 - Prism Scale

-- [[User:Kaphotics|Kaphotics]] ([[User talk:Kaphotics|talk]]) 04:25, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

== Colosseum Pickups ==

I just got Aipom while playing Pokémon Colosseum. From what I've seen so far, his pickups at level 43 while in in Shadow mode are a Full Heal, a Full Restore, a Rare Candy, and an Ultra Ball. Except for the Super Potions this is looking like the Ruby and Sapphire pickups, or maybe other levels of the Emerald pickups. I'll keep tracking it until I can (or can't) prove it fits under any previous games.

More info:
2 more pickups from Aipom while in Shadow mode, a super potion and another full heal. I purified him (still at level 43) and the next battle I was in I got a revive. It is looking more and more like the Ruby and Sapphire list of items that can be picked up. [[User:Cyalknight|Cyal (LeafGreen&Emerald)]] ([[User talk:Cyalknight|talk]]) 06:46, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

1 - Revive
4 - Full Heal
5 - Rare Candy
1 - Ultra Ball
1 - Nugget
5 - Super Potions
1 - PP Up
1 - Full Restore
This is the list I am making of the items that the purified Aipom has picked up at level 43. The only 3rd Gen list we have of pickups that include both Nugget and Revive at the same level is the Ruby and Sapphire list. But because of the rarity of Super Potions it might not be that list. If an experienced editor wants to include the full list of items on the Pickup (Ability) page, or a link for more information in the talk page, that would be fine. I will probably keep updating this current list as I go along or until something changes. [[User:Cyalknight|Cyal (LeafGreen&Emerald)]] ([[User talk:Cyalknight|talk]]) 17:12, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

I am back and adding a full heal, 3 rare candies, 5 super potions, a PP up, and a full restore to the above list. They are added in the order I got them. I might put them in the order listed for Ruby and Sapphire. It is still has the items from the Ruby Sapphire list, but possibly not the same percentages. [[User:Cyalknight|Cyal (LeafGreen&Emerald)]] ([[User talk:Cyalknight|talk]]) 12:32, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Item name ---- ## - %Col? - %RS

Super Potion - 16 -- 32.0 -- 30
Ultra Ball ---- 4 --- 8.0 -- 10
Full Restore -- 2 --- 4.0 -- 10
Full Heal ----- 7 -- 14.0 -- 10
Nugget -------- 7 -- 14.0 -- 10
Revive -------- 2 --- 4.0 -- 10
Rare Candy ---- 8 -- 16.0 -- 10
Protein ------- 2 --- 4.0 --- 5
PP Up --------- 2 --- 4.0 --- 4
King's Rock --- 0 --- 0.0 --- 1

I am back once again and up to 50 items my Aipom has picked up. Here is a new table with the name of the items I've picked up (Item name), the number of items I've picked up (##), the number of items I picked up converted into a percentage (%Col?), and the Ruby Sapphire percentages (%RS). I would like to eventually get this list up to 200 items. Once my Aipom picks up a King's Rock, my suggestion for the Pickup page would be to fill in all the items, but remove the percentages. I'll try to come back when I get to 75 items or if I pick up a King's Rock. [[User:Cyalknight|Cyal (LeafGreen,Emerald&Colosseum)]] ([[User talk:Cyalknight|talk]]) 11:25, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

== Pokemon XD Pickups / Change to Emerald ==

Finally managed to find the routines in (european) Pokemon XD. I think, american offsets are slightly different. Random Number Generator used for pickup trigger is at 0x8025E944; Pickup stuff is done near 0x80140D58. Whether Pickup triggers is checked by integer-dividing the randomnumber by 10, then multiplying it with 10 and comparing with original - if it's zero, the original number was 0 mod 10 - 10% chance and pickup triggers.
To create "always trigger", switch 0x80140d58 from 0x3860000A to 0x38600001 - this changes the factor to 1 and every random number is dividible by 1.
A second random number is generated and the remainder of division by 100 is calculated the same way (int-divide by 100, int-multiply with 100, subtract from original). At one point, this pickup-index is in R30. Breakpoint there and the item for every slot can be chosen. This also allows to calculate the probabilities for items.

First (non-)surprise: The slots are 00-29,30-39,40-49,50-59,60-69,70-79,80-89,90-93,94-97,98,99. Thus giving one 30%, six 10%, two 4% and two 1%-slots. The 5%/3%-division is wrong - and I strongly believe, it also is for emerald. If no one can back the 5%/3%-theory with facts, it should be changed to 4%/4% everywhere.
Table is created as usual. There is the left part (30% to 4%, nine slots. Each level everything is shifted to the left and a new item is introduced into the 94-97-slot) and the right part (1%, two slots. Each level this is shifted to the right and a new item is introduced into the 98-slot).

I tried Zigzagoons-Linoons on every tier and triggered each slot. Some items in the original table just were plain wrong (Escape Rope?) and looked copied from Emerald Table. I cannot rule out that american (or japanese) XD has different slots but I strongly doubt it. Please do some research and provide facts before changing the table).[[User:TCCPhreak|TCCPhreak]] ([[User talk:TCCPhreak|talk]]) 15:06, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
:You changed Emerald's %s because you say 5/3 isn't backed with facts, but you yourself don't actually back your change with fact, just supposition: "I think Emerald is probably like XD." That won't cut it. I would be overjoyed if you researched Emerald's %s and then changed it if it's really 4/4, but until then, we'll roll with 5/3.
:(The 5/3 numbers first appeared on this page [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pickup_%28Ability%29&diff=84775&oldid=84772 in November 2006], and a couple revisions later the same user credits Psypoke, [http://www.psypokes.com/lab/pickup.php?version=emerald who says] 5/3 for all of Emerald through HGSS. (Which perhaps means HGSS should be checked too...) I can't personally speak to Psypoke's credibility, but there's your culprit, anyway.)
:I do love this kind of work, though. FWIW, thanks! =) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:20, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
:: I already did verify Emerald's percentages: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/past-gen-rng-research.61090/page-42 Post 1031 but forgot to incorporate the result into the Bulbapedia page (or wanted to wait for further verification - do not remember exactly). I'm sorry for not linking to that post in the change comment. Is it okay to rollback the rollback?
:: As for `the original source': Psypoke doesn't present any and apart from Smogon, I can't find much research about it. The 5%/3% split seems to have been copied over and over, maybe starting from psypoke, maybe not. My personal theory is that DPPt was the first one to be examined and the "Hyper Potion in 4% and Hyper Potion in 1%"-anormality was added up, removing 1% from Ultra Ball.. and then the 1% was added again. Possibly this started on a japanese research page and stuff got lost in translation - I'm no historian and eight years in internet time seems a bit long to search for information.
:: HGSS is on my Todo-list. I think it shouldn't be much more complicated than DPPt (although I remember some fun changes around the RNG). As there is no `real' source providing facts for 5%/3% for HGSS, could I object with "it's 4%/4% for every other game - especially the ones in the same generation"? We could change it to "5%?/4%?" and "3%?/4%?" in the table header and provide a tooltip "exact percentage currently in dispute - see talk page".[[User:TCCPhreak|TCCPhreak]] ([[User talk:TCCPhreak|talk]]) 12:40, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
:::I've definitely been through that thread before and that post, but I either missed the difference here or forgot to update it... But yeah, that's perfect, for me. You make a good point about everything else being 4%/4% too. If HGSS is the odd man out, then yeah, as far as I'm concerned it's OK to presume for the time being that it's a mistake since it (and the others that are now changed) can't be traced back to anything solid. I changed both. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:21, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

==Picking up Mega Stones==
Can Pokémon pick up a flung Mega Stone if said Mega Stone does not correspond to either of the Pokémon's species? (If a Primeape flings a Blazikenite at Linoone, for example, can it be picked up?) - [[User:Linneus|Linneus]] ([[User talk:Linneus|talk]]) 20:56, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
:{{m|Fling}} does not work on a Mega Stone. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:13, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

== Starting the OmegaRuby/AlphaSapphire Item list? ==

Is it safe to assume that ORAS uses the same table structure as every other game since generation 3.5 (30/6x10/2x4/2x1; 10 Level-tiers; each at [0-9]1; rotating out the 30% and one 1% at the start of every tier)? I'm currently doing experiments (full pickup team, levelling it parallel to my playthrough) and although randomness makes it hard to present the results as facts, there are some things I am very sure of:
* Conclusions/Guesses from Lv01:
** Potion should be LV01, 30%. Got 50 of them and only 18 of the runner-up.
** Nugget should be LV01, 1%. Got a single one, every other item has at least 7.
** Great Ball, Escape Rope, Repel, Full Heal, Super Potion, Antidote are candidates for Lv01, 10%. Those are six items with a similar amount of occurances (14-18). Higher levels can verify this assumption and determine exact order.
** Ultra Ball is a candidate for Lv01, 4%. Seven occurances.
** Hyper Potion is a candidate for the other Lv01, 4%. Got it nine times.
** Either I was very unlucky with finding the eleventh item or it already exists in another column. My guess is Hyper Potion. For the size of this experiment (total number of pickups: 165), nine occurances seem a bit high and the contrast to Ultra Ball indicates that some of them were from a 1%-slot. Also, Hyper Potion in two columns was observed in other games. Unfortunately, this hypothesis can not be verified with higher-level pickup-tiers and could only be falsified by finding a previously non-seen item with a Lv01-tier-pickup-pokemon.
* Conclusions/Guesses from Lv11:
** Found 11 different items. Potion was missing, so it was rotated out and LV01, 30% is proven (if we assume the same table structure)
** Antidote was super-common (109 times, runner-up was 43). This is a proof for LV01, 10%@1. It also is a very good candidate for LV11, 30%
** Great Ball, Repel, Full Heal, Escape Rope, Super Potion and Hyper Potion are six items and their numbers are near each other and far from everything else (31-43). They could be Lv11, 10%. Hyper Potion being candidate for Lv01,4% and Lv11,10% proposes Lv01,4%@1 and Lv11,10%@6.
** King's Rock and Nugget are rare. Got two of each. Nearest other was 10. This indicates Lv11,1% for both of them and proposes Lv01,1%@1 for Nugget. Note that both of them have been 1% in other games.
** Revive and Ultra Ball (10 and 18) both were more common than the 1% candidates rarer than the 10% candidates. Revive was not observed at Lv01, making it a good Lv11,4%@2-candidate. It is noteworthy that Revive seems a bit underpresented for 4%; yet I am not willing to return to a 3/5 assumption and rather assume "bad luck".
* Conclusions/Guess from Lv21:
** Only got 10 different items (42 in total) so those are far from final...
** No Antidotes - yet, but going from super-common to rare has not been seen in any other table. This indicates LV11/30% and Lv01/10%@1.
** Super Potions are starting to get a very good lead on anything else. This could be a sign for Lv21/30% and - in conclucion Lv11/10%@2,Lv01/10%@3.
** Rare Candy has been seen and is absent from Lv11. This indicates Lv21/4%@2. For my taste, it has been seen too often but I expect this random oddity to even out after more collected items.
** King's Rock has been seen. I assume it is Lv21/1%@2 (and Lv11/1%@1) but have to wait whether it rotates out at Lv31.
** No other table had 4%+1% anywhere else but at Lv01 so I expect an eleventh item to show up sooner or later. As this is expected to be Lv21/1%, this is a matter of luck.
All in all this is starting to look as if only small changes had been made to the X/Y (and BW2)-tables - if any were made at all. The Prism Scale might be replaced with something else (for obvious reasons).
Small update: Percentages look okay most of the time (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VOirGRhCQpqAf4R3i_Pum_aZG2n8c0FZMLuzXRkLaYE/edit?usp=sharing). Table is prepared for more than one data-collector. Anyone wanna join?
[[User:TCCPhreak|TCCPhreak]] ([[User talk:TCCPhreak|talk]]) 19:31, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
:ORAS uses the same general structure as X/Y in terms of the item list. Back when I dumped data from the demo, the only pickup change was swapping Prism Scale for Destiny Knot [http://pastebin.com/zPgwx6mb]. — [[User:Kaphotics|Kaphotics]] ([[User talk:Kaphotics|talk]]) 09:04, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
:: I'm a bit surprised that Muddywaterzboy added the list without giving a source - especially as some unsourced information on this page turned out to be wrong, before. It would be nice if this could be added. However, between Kaphotics' data dump, Muddywaterzboy's unnamed source, the similarity to previous tables and my experiments (finished today), I think we can assume this table to be valid.[[User:TCCPhreak|TCCPhreak]] ([[User talk:TCCPhreak|talk]]) 16:02, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

== Pokemon Sun and Moon Pickup Items ==

Does anyone know when the Pickup information/probability of all the different items for Pokemon Sun and Moon will be updated? Just wondering if we have the info yet.--[[User:Rithvikkiran|Rithvikkiran]] ([[User talk:Rithvikkiran|talk]]) 21:47, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Last time, someone extracted the tables from the demo, plus I did a counting experiment. If "counting and approximating" is the easiest way: What it the first pickup-capable Pokemon available in Sun/Moon?
--[[User:TCCPhreak|TCCPhreak]] ([[User talk:TCCPhreak|talk]]) 06:47, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

:I'm not a 100% sure, but I think it might be Alolan Meowth.--[[User:Rithvikkiran|Rithvikkiran]] ([[User talk:Rithvikkiran|talk]]) 17:43, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
::Correct; it's also the easiest. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:48, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

In my copy of Moon, I have four Pokémon with Pickup ("Pickup Artists") in my part right now. One is level 35, and the rest are level 41. From my trials, it seems Great Balls are the most common. In addition, one was able to find a Destiny Knot within the level 21-30 range. [[User:LittleOmu|LittleOmu]] ([[User talk:LittleOmu|talk]]) 04:01, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

== Pretty Wing in Sun/Moon ==

My Lillipup with the Pickup ability just picked up a Pretty Wing. Can we add Pretty Wing to the list of items that can be picked up in Sun and Moon? {{unsigned|Valehd}}
:I also got a Sitrus Berry. --[[User:Valehd|Valehd]] ''([[User talk:Valehd|tAlk]])'' 16:14, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
::Hm, I believe the items currently listed are also listed in a guidebook (and those you mentioned are not). So, are you sure you didn't get those from wild Wingull or Trumbeak or something (they [[List of Pokémon by wild held item|can have them naturally]])?
::And in general: if you do have reliable information that's not on there, you may just add it yourself. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 23:21, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

== Altering the Sun and Moon Table Slightly ==

I feel like the many, manny tiny boxes of the sun and moon table make it look ugly and kind of hard to look at, and so I had a little play about with it, and just wanted other opinions before I just jumped in and edited it. I was just wondering which version people prefer? Here's what I've done:
{| class="roundy" style="float:left; text-align: center; background: #{{items color}}; border: 3px solid #{{items color dark}}"
|-
! style="background:#{{items color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Item
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 1-10
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 11-20
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 21-30
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 31-40
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 41-50
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 51-60
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 61-70
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 71-80
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 81-90
! style="background:#{{items color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Lv 91-100
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Potion}}
| 25% || colspan="9" |
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Antidote}}
| 10% || 25% || colspan="8" |
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| colspan="2" | 10% || 25% || colspan="7" |
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| colspan="3" | 10% || 25% || colspan="6" |
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| colspan="4" | 10% || 20% || colspan="5" |
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| colspan="5" | 10% || 20% || colspan="4" |
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| colspan="6" | 10% || 20% || colspan="3" |
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| colspan="3" | 5% || colspan="4" | 10% || 20% || colspan="2" |
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Nugget}}
| 5% || 3% || colspan="8" |
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| colspan="2" | 3% || colspan="2" | 5% || colspan="4" | 10% || 20% ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Destiny Knot}}
| colspan=10 | 1%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| colspan=10 | 1%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| || 3% || colspan="2" | 5% || colspan="6" | 10%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| || 3% || colspan="2" | 5% || colspan="6" | 10%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Prism Scale}}
| || colspan=9 | 3%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| || colspan="2" | 2% || colspan="2" | 5% || 7% || colspan="3" | 10% || 20%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Balm Mushroom}}
| || 1% || 3% || colspan="7" |
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| colspan="2" | || colspan="3" | 3% || colspan="5" | 8%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Pearl String}}
| colspan="2" | || 1% || 4% || colspan="6" |
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| colspan="2" | || 1% || 1% || 2% || 3% || colspan="2" | 5% || 10% || 15%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Big Nugget}}
| colspan="3" | || 1% || 4% || colspan="5" | 5%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| colspan="3" | || colspan="3" | 1% || colspan="4" |
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| colspan="5" | || 1% || 4% || colspan="3" | 10%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Elixir}}
| colspan="6" | || 3% || 5% || colspan="2" |
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| colspan="7" | || 2% || colspan="2" | 10%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|PP Up}}
| colspan="8" | || 1% || 4%
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
| style="background:#fff" colspan="8" | || style="background:#fff" | 1% || style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | 3%
|}{{-}}
--[[User:Ditto51|Ditto51/Tom]] ([[User_Talk:Ditto51|My Talk Page]]) 19:10, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

: Personally, I think it's better than the current one. It would make a lot more sense to combine columns. If I could change anything, I would make the blank cells the same colour as the outermost border.--[[User:Diriector Doc|Diriector Doc]] ([[User talk:Diriector Doc|talk]]) 01:13, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
::I think this makes it harder to read than the current design if you're reading it vertically. Horizontally it's about the same, but if you're interested in which items you can get in a particular level range it's not as easy to tell, because you have to keep looking left and right to see whether it's a blank space or just a cell that spans multiple columns.
::In general, I feel like table cells shouldn't be merged unless the property is actually shared, rather than just happening to be the same. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:16, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
:::I believe I tried that when I was trying to make it in the first place. I liked it too, except for the issue that SnorlaxMonster brings up: it can be pretty hard to mentally draw the correct column divider down (or up) to understand the start/end of anything in the middle ranges. And that's a pretty big issue. The last thing we want is people mistaking a level range. That makes the version with reliable column lines (excluding the two absolutely constant items in the middle) better, because it's very simple to follow the same column all the way. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:47, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

== SM/USUM table ==
{| class="roundy" style="float:left; background: #{{items color}}; border: 3px solid #{{items color dark}}"
|-
! style="background: #{{items color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Level
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 25%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 20%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 15%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" colspan=6 | 10%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 8%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 7%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" colspan=4 | 5%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 4%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" colspan=5 | 3%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 2%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" colspan=5 | 1%
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| 1-10
| {{Bag3|Potion}}
| colspan=2 |
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Antidote}}
| colspan=2 |
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Nugget}}
| colspan=4 |
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| colspan=4 |
| {{Bag3|Destiny Knot}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| colspan=3 |
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| 11-20
| {{Bag3|Antidote}}
| colspan=2 |
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| colspan=3 |
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| colspan=4 |
| {{Bag3|Prism Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Nugget}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Destiny Knot}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| {{Bag3|Balm Mushroom}}
| colspan=2 |
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| 21-30
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| colspan=2 |
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| colspan=4 |
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
|
| {{Bag3|Prism Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Balm Mushroom}}
| colspan=2 |
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Destiny Knot}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| {{Bag3|Pearl String}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
|
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| 31-40
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| colspan=2 |
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| colspan=2 |
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| colspan=2 |
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Pearl String}}
| {{Bag3|Prism Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| colspan=4 |
| {{Bag3|Destiny Knot}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Big Nugget}}
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| 41-50
|
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
|
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| colspan=2 |
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| colspan=3 |
| {{Bag3|Big Nugget}}
| {{Bag3|Prism Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| colspan=3 |
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Destiny Knot}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| colspan=2 |
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| 51-60
|
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
|
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
|
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Big Nugget}}
| colspan=4 |
| {{Bag3|Prism Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| colspan=4 |
| {{Bag3|Destiny Knot}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
|
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| 61-70
|
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
|
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
|
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
|
| {{Bag3|Big Nugget}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| colspan=2 |
| {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Prism Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Elixir}}
| colspan=4 |
| {{Bag3|Destiny Knot}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| colspan=3 |
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| 71-80
|
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
|
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
|
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
|
| {{Bag3|Big Nugget}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Elixir}}
| colspan=2 |
| {{Bag3|Prism Scale}}
| colspan=4 |
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Destiny Knot}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| colspan=3 |
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| 81-90
|
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
|
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
|
| {{Bag3|Big Nugget}}
| colspan=4 |
| {{Bag3|Prism Scale}}
| colspan=5 |
| {{Bag3|Destiny Knot}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
| {{Bag3|PP Up}}
|
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 91-100
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Revive}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Big Nugget}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|PP Up}}
| style="background:#fff" colspan=3 |
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Prism Scale}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
| style="background:#fff" colspan=4 |
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Destiny Knot}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" colspan=3 |
|}{{-}}

If it's alright, please restore [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pickup_(Ability)&oldid=3000084#Pok.C3.A9mon_Sun.2C_Moon.2C_Ultra_Sun.2C_and_Ultra_Moon this version] (small version) of the SM/USUM table. Here's a link to the [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pickup_(Ability)&oldid=3000140#Pok.C3.A9mon_Sun.2C_Moon.2C_Ultra_Sun.2C_and_Ultra_Moon current version] (large version) which I'd like to remove.

The former is consistent with the tables above it from the previous games. It's also considerably smaller than the current, bulky table.

Using the small table, I find it easier to check this:

* Each combination of item/level/percentage. Because the percentages follow a pattern, higher to the left and lower to the right. So the percentages can be basically inferred from the position on the table, and we have less things to read. (As opposed to the large table, where we have to read each percentage per cell if we are interested, because the cell position alone doesn't tell us the percentage.)
* What are the rarer and commoner items of each level, based on the position of the items on the table.
* Which percentages have more or less items. For instance, the large table lets us know that no item has a 25% chance of appearing from level 41 onwards. It also lets us know that all levels have at least two 1% items, and at most five 1% items. Other numbers can be easily discovered as well.

I find it easier to compare items too. For example, to know that the Sun Stone and Moon Stone always have the same chance of appearing, because they are always together in the right places.

The large version has the percentages scattered in a way that I don't find very helpful for comparison purposes.

To be fair, one possible benefit of the large table is that it makes very clear which levels have and don't have a particular item. For instance, it's very clear that the Rare Candy is only available at level 21 onwards in SM/USUM using the large table. This is a trade-off. For instance, it's less clear that Full Restore is only available in ORAS at levels 21-40 and 61-100, because it uses the small table design where items are located at different places depending on the percentage. I still think the small table is worth it, because the smaller size makes it easier to navigate and check those places quickly.

It could be just me, but the avoidable inconsistency between different tables in the same page bothers me. If for some reason the large version is preferred, the consistent choice would be editing all the tables of previous games (RSE / DPPt / BW / etc.) to use the same bulky format. Still, I believe the small version is the best one for the reasons above. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 16:32, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

:Back in January, I made a similar edit which can be seen [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pickup_(Ability)&oldid=2908848#Pok.C3.A9mon_Sun.2C_Moon.2C_Ultra_Sun.2C_and_Ultra_Moon here]. It was almost identical to yours but with a couple of differences.

:Interestinly, both of our edits were undone with the same summary: ''"That is definitely a valid way of presenting it and more consistent with other tables, but I think it's clearer to describe it this way due to the fact that there arent %slots"''. As it states, it's clearer to the reader to state the %chance for each item individually. Although I stood by my edit, I agreed.

:Both of our edits had gaps all over the place, while the current table, although it contains a few, is a bit more consistent.

:Also, it's not like any of the information has changed after the edit. With the current table, it is abundantly clear that [[Leftovers]] and [[Destiny Knot]] are the rarest items with a constant 1%. Sure, the small table says the same thing, but the bigger table says it once if you get what I'm saying.

:I like the smaller table as it is more consistent, as was the point, but readability is more important than consistency in this case.--[[User:Diriector Doc|Diriector Doc]] ([[User talk:Diriector Doc|talk]]) 20:05, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

::[[User:Diriector Doc|Diriector Doc]]: Your version ([https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pickup_(Ability)&oldid=2908848#Pok.C3.A9mon_Sun.2C_Moon.2C_Ultra_Sun.2C_and_Ultra_Moon link]) had the items scattered at various places. I believe I was able to improve it by arranging the items as various vertical lines everywhere and using rowspan in the empty cells ([https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pickup_(Ability)&oldid=3000084#Pok.C3.A9mon_Sun.2C_Moon.2C_Ultra_Sun.2C_and_Ultra_Moon link]). This is good for readability.
::All versions of that table (small and large) have gaps all over the place. The gaps are not fixed in the large table. Actually, the large table has much larger gaps than the small table. So if we want to avoid gaps as much as possible, the small table would be the best option.
::Leftovers and Destiny Knot are available as 1% in all levels, which is easy to see in both the small and the large tables, so I don't think these two items are a good reason to choose any design over another. Arguably, the fact that they are available in all levels with the same percentage makes them a special case. They stand out.
::In fact, for some reason those 1% lines (Leftovers and Destiny Knot) are in the middle of the large table, which doesn't help to navigate other percentages based on their locations. This hurts the readability of the large table.
::Also, Leftovers and Destiny Knot are not actually the only rarest items. They are just part of the story. The rarest items are actually all the ones with 1%: depending on the level, they are Leftovers, Destiny Knot, Balm Mushroom, Pearl Necklace, Full Restore, Ether, Big Nugget, Heart Scale, Max Elixir, and PP Up. In the small table, we can see them easily by checking only the right side. With the large table, we must read the whole table (with all those percentages scattered in various ways) to answer the same question: "Which items are 1%?"
::So really, the large table has poor readability with respect to the points said above. The small table is an improvement in readability.
::That said, if we keep the large table anyway, shall we edit the other games to keep it consistent? I'm not actually suggesting changing all the games this way. I'm just saying that if the large format has any advantages (including readability, design, etc.), it should most likely fit all games. The table below would be the HGSS table using the large format. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 03:19, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

:::Firstly, I was not comparing our submissions. I was not saying one is better than the other. I was simply pointing out that I have made a similar one that resulted in the edit being undone, as did yours. Secondly, I was not the one that decided to keep the original table. I was explaining the reason for the undoing and reflecting upon it. As I said, I prefer the small tables, but there were reasons for keeping the original.

:::The point of the large table is to quickly and effectively identify how frequently a specific item appears. The small table, as you mentioned, can easily answer the question "Which items are 1%?" When someone is doing a playthrough of the game, they want to know how to get a specific item, not to know what the rarest items are. If someone truly wants to know which item is the rarest, it would not take too much effort to spot the 1% tiles and evaluate for themselves.

:::In the case with the other games, none of the tables have gaps at all. There is the same number of items available for each percent tile as all the other levels. The only exception is the USUM table. In USUM, not only do the rarities change depending on the level but also the number of available items. This is why there are gaps; the gaps are unavoidable.

:::If you look at the large table, there is a clean diagonal pattern to it. With the small table, both yours and mine, the gaps are all over the place. Consistency is not the main importance of the table. When people look at the table, they want to find how easily the can get the item they want, which is what the large table achieves.

:::Lastly, with regards to your large HGSS table suggestion, how I see this request is you saying "I want something to go my way." To quote you, ''...if we keep the large table anyway, shall we edit the other games to keep it consistent?'' What you are communicating is that you want consistency. You have given up on your first idea to change the USUM table to fit the others, and have moved to the idea of changing the others to match the USUM table. As I mentioned in my first reply, readability is more important than consistency in this case. If everyone agrees that the large table for other games is better for the readability than by all means. But in the meantime, if it ain't broke, there is no point in fixing it.

:::Please, do not see this as a refusal, but instead and explanation. I am not against the thought of consistency, but people have decided that the large table would be better. If, later on, a more consistent version of the large cable come to be, but you don't agree with the design choice, enlighten us by discussing it right here. All of us are listrening.--[[User:Diriector Doc|Diriector Doc]] ([[User talk:Diriector Doc|talk]]) 06:59, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

::::To be clear, I think your submission was great (your small SM/USUM table back from January). I also think I could make another version of basically the same small table which has a few improvements. I was comparing our tables. But I guess that's just a normal wiki thing. Editing what's there and making changes as usual.
::::It doesn't have to be my way. I was just arguing that I think this way is better. But if other people disagree with me and keep a design different from what I would, that's OK.
::::You said a statement about me that is actually very wrong (but it can be a honest mistake, or maybe I was not clear before): "You have given up on your first idea to change the USUM table to fit the others, and have moved to the idea of changing the others to match the USUM table."
::::I did not say I want the HGSS table to be large. I was asking if there's anyone who would want that. This was a genuine question: "...if we keep the large table anyway, shall we edit the other games to keep it consistent?"
::::Even if the admins and everyone else said "Alright, let's use the large table for all games." I would still think the large table is a bad idea and would prefer the small version for all games, including SM/USUM. But I would still accept the consensus.
::::I could be wrong here, so please kindly correct me if needed: It appears you are defending the large table because other people want it, since you yourself said you prefer the small table.
::::I'm not sure who are the people who decided to keep the large table (maybe it was an admin decision or something). I would be curious to see the result if everyone voted on the tables. I wonder if you would vote "small", but I obviously can't speak for you.
::::Either way, thank you for taking the time to explain the benefits of the large table. I'll say one small thing in defense of the large table: Yes, the large table (despite being the one I don't like) does a good job of letting people know whether an item is available or not (despite making a mess of the percentages).
::::In some other ways I disagree with you. I'm not sure I should comment all the points raised because this discussion is getting a bit long. If I tried to answer everything, I could be repeating my points from before. For one, I'm interested in the actual item percentages and feel disappointed that the large SM/USUM table does a poor job of presenting them.
::::If by any chance you are interested in my opinion about some point raised in this conversation, feel free to ask. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 14:21, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::Today I sent messages to two people concerning this discussion:
:::::* [[User talk:Diriector Doc#Pickup - SM/USUM table]]
:::::* [[User talk:SnorlaxMonster#Pickup - SM/USUM table]]
:::::--[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 21:39, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

==Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver (large design)==
This is how the HGSS table would look like if it used the large design discussed above.

I'm placing it down here to avoid cluttering that discussion. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 03:19, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

{| class="roundy" style="float:left; text-align: center; background: #{{items color}}; border: 3px solid #{{items color dark}}"
|-
! style="background:#{{items color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Item
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 1-10
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 11-20
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 21-30
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 31-40
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 41-50
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 51-60
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 61-70
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 71-80
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 81-90
! style="background:#{{items color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Lv 91-100
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Potion}}
| 30% || || || || || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Antidote}}
| 10% || 30% || || || || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| 10% || 10% || 30% || || || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| 10% || 10% || 10% || 30% || || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 30% || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 30% || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 30% || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| 4% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 30% || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| 4% || 4% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 30% ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| || 4% || 4% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 30%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| || || 4% || 4% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| || || || 4% || 4% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| || || || || 4% || 4% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| || || || || || 4% || 4% || 10% || 10% || 10%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Max Repel}}
| 1% || || || || || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Nugget}}
| 1% || 1% |||| || || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
| || 1% || 1% || || || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| || || 1% || 1% || || || 4% || 4% || 10% || 10%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| || || || || || || || 4% || 4% || 10%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|PP Up}}
| || || || || || || || || 4% || 4%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
| || || || || || || || || || 4%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| || || || 1% || 1% || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Iron Ball}}
| || || || || 1% || 1% || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[File:Bag TM Dark Sprite.png|TM56 (Fling)|link=TM56]]
| || || || || || 1% || 1% || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Elixir}}
| || || || || || || 1% || 1% || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[File:Bag TM Grass Sprite.png|TM86 (Grass Knot)|link=TM86]]
| || || || || || || || 1% || 1% ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| || || || || || || || || 1% || 1%
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | [[File:Bag TM Ground Sprite.png|TM26 (Earthquake)|link=TM26]]
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | 1%
|}{{-}}

== Pokémon Black and White Pickup Table Error ==

I've corrected the long-standing error of their being a Lucky Egg listed in the 1% section from 41-50 and the 4% section for 51-60. It is an Ether. This is a very old error from Serebii that was never corrected. [[User:Acumenium|Acumenium]] ([[User talk:Acumenium|talk]]) 05:44, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Pickup (Ability)

2020-03-28T05:43:51Z

Acumenium: /* Pokémon Black and White Pickup Table Error */ new section

Pickup (Ability)

2020-03-28T05:41:33Z

Acumenium: Corrected a long-standing error in the Black and White section. Lucky Egg are not available via Pickup. It is Ether.

{{AbilityInfobox
|name=Pickup
|jpname=ものひろい
|jptrans=Pickup
|jptranslit=Monohiroi
|colorscheme=items
|gen=3
|text3=May pick up items.
|text4=The Pokémon may pick up items.
|text5=The Pokémon may pick up items.
|text6=The Pokémon may pick up items.
|text7=The Pokémon may pick up the item an opposing Pokémon used during a battle. It may pick up items outside of battle, too.
|text8=The Pokémon may pick up the item an opposing Pokémon used during a battle. It may pick up items outside of battle, too.
}}
'''Pickup''' (Japanese: '''ものひろい''' ''Pickup'') is an [[Ability]] introduced in [[Generation III]].

==Effect==
===In battle===
====Generations III and IV====
Pickup has no effect during battle.

====Generation V onward====
At the end of the turn in which another Pokémon used a one-time use item (including throwing an item with {{m|Fling}} or using {{m|Natural Gift}}), a Pokémon with Pickup will collect the item if they are not holding anything. If more than one Pokémon has Pickup or {{a|Harvest}}, the faster Pokémon will restore an item first. If multiple items can be collected, the Pokémon will collect the item most recently consumed.

A single Pokémon's Pickup will not activate more than once per turn.

Pickup cannot collect an item if the Pokémon that consumed the item is no longer on the field at the end of the turn, or if the item has already been recovered (such as with {{m|Recycle}}, another Pokémon's Pickup, or Harvest). Pickup cannot collect an item that a Pokémon consumed before switching out, even if it switched back in again before the end of the turn. Pickup cannot collect items that have been destroyed with {{m|Incinerate}}, eaten with {{m|Bug Bite}} or {{m|Pluck}}, or knocked off with {{m|Knock Off}}. A popped [[Air Balloon]] cannot be collected.

A Pokémon may only have one consumed item at a time; if a Pokémon consumes an item, obtains another item and consumes it, the original consumed item cannot be collected, even if the second item is collected or restored then swapped away. If the Pokémon obtains another item after consuming an item, Pickup can still collect the old item as long as the Pokémon does not consume the new one.

===Outside of battle===
After winning a battle, any Pokémon on in the player's party that has this Ability and is not already holding an item has a 10% chance of creating a held item for itself, even if it did not participate in the battle. The Pokémon can find an item even if it is [[fainting|fainted]].

In [[Generation VIII]], Pokémon with this Ability can find items with this Ability even in the {{gdis|Battle Tower|VIII}}.

====Items received====
=====Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, and Colosseum=====
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{items color}}; border: 3px solid #{{items color dark}}"
|-
! style="background:#{{items color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Rarity
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | 30%
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" colspan=6 | 10%
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | 5%
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | 4%
! style="background:#{{items color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | 1%
|-
! style="background:#{{items color light}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | Item
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Nugget}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Revive}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Protein}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|PP Up}}
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
|}

=====Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen=====
In {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, the Ability focuses on {{Berries}}, which are not as readily available in [[Kanto]] and the [[Sevii Islands]] as they are in [[Hoenn]].

{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{items color}}; border: 3px solid #{{items color dark}}"
|-
! style="background:#{{items color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Rarity
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | 15%
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" colspan=6 | 10%
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" colspan=4 | 5%
! style="background:#{{items color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" colspan=5 | 1%
|-
! style="background:#{{items color light}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | Item
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Oran Berry}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Aspear Berry}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Cheri Berry}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Chesto Berry}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Pecha Berry}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Persim Berry}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Rawst Berry}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Nugget}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|PP Up}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Bag TM Normal Sprite.png|TM10 (Hidden Power)|link=TM10]]
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Belue Berry}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Durin Berry}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Pamtre Berry}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Spelon Berry}}
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{Bag3|Watmel Berry}}
|}

=====Pokémon Emerald=====
In {{game|Emerald}}, the Ability was changed to be affected by the Pokémon's level.

{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{items color}}; border: 3px solid #{{items color dark}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}; background: #{{items color light}}" | Level
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 30%
! colspan=6 style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 10%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" colspan=2 | 4%
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}; background: #{{items color light}}" colspan=2 | 1%
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1-10
| {{Bag3|Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Antidote}}
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|X Attack}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Nugget}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 11-20
| {{Bag3|Antidote}}
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|X Attack}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Nugget}}
| {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 21-30
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|X Attack}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 31-40
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|X Attack}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Protein}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 41-50
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|X Attack}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Protein}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|White Herb}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 51-60
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|X Attack}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Protein}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|HP Up}}
| {{Bag3|White Herb}}
| [[File:Bag TM Psychic Sprite.png|TM44 (Rest)|link=TM44]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 61-70
| {{Bag3|X Attack}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Protein}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|HP Up}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| [[File:Bag TM Psychic Sprite.png|TM44 (Rest)|link=TM44]]
| {{Bag3|Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 71-80
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Protein}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|HP Up}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Elixir}}
| [[File:Bag TM Fighting Sprite.png|TM01 (Focus Punch)|link=TM01]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 81-90
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Protein}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|HP Up}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|PP Up}}
| [[File:Bag TM Fighting Sprite.png|TM01 (Focus Punch)|link=TM01]]
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 91-100
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Protein}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Revive}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|HP Up}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|PP Up}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | [[File:Bag TM Ground Sprite.png|TM26 (Earthquake)|link=TM26]]
|}

======Battle Pyramid======
In addition, the [[Battle Pyramid]] has a separate list of items that can be received; this table, however, is instead based on the number of floors/rounds the player has completed inside the Pyramid.

The Pickup table and the item balls on the ground share this same pool of items.

{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{items color}}; border: 3px solid #{{items color dark}}"
|-
! style="background:#{{items color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Round
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | 30%
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" colspan=5 | 10%
! style="background:#{{items color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" colspan=4 | 5%
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 1
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Fluffy Tail}}
| {{Bag3|Cheri Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Bright Powder}}
| {{Bag3|Shell Bell}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Sacred Ash}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 2
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Dire Hit}}
| {{Bag3|Pecha Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Leppa Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| {{Bag3|Choice Band}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 3
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|X Attack}}
| {{Bag3|Rawst Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Scope Lens}}
| {{Bag3|Focus Band}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Sacred Ash}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 4
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|X Defense}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Leppa Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Quick Claw}}
| {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 5
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|X Speed}}
| {{Bag3|Chesto Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Bright Powder}}
| {{Bag3|Shell Bell}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Sacred Ash}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 6
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|X Accuracy}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Leppa Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| {{Bag3|Choice Band}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 7
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion|Potion}}
| {{Bag3|X Sp. Atk}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Scope Lens}}
| {{Bag3|Focus Band}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Sacred Ash}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 8
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Guard Spec.}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Leppa Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Quick Claw}}
| {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 9
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Fluffy Tail}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Bright Powder}}
| {{Bag3|Shell Bell}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Sacred Ash}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 10
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Dire Hit}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Leppa Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| {{Bag3|Choice Band}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 11
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|X Attack}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Scope Lens}}
| {{Bag3|Focus Band}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Sacred Ash}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 12
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|X Defense}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Leppa Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Quick Claw}}
| {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 13
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|X Speed}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Bright Powder}}
| {{Bag3|Shell Bell}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Sacred Ash}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 14
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|X Accuracy}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Leppa Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| {{Bag3|Choice Band}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 15
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion|Potion}}
| {{Bag3|X Sp. Atk}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Scope Lens}}
| {{Bag3|Focus Band}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Sacred Ash}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 16
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Guard Spec.}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Leppa Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Quick Claw}}
| {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 17
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Fluffy Tail}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Bright Powder}}
| {{Bag3|Shell Bell}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Sacred Ash}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 18
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Dire Hit}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Leppa Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| {{Bag3|Choice Band}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 19
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|X Attack}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Scope Lens}}
| {{Bag3|Focus Band}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Sacred Ash}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 20
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|X Defense}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Leppa Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Quick Claw}}
| {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 21
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion|Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Fluffy Tail}}
| {{Bag3|Cheri Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Bright Powder}}
| {{Bag3|Shell Bell}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Sacred Ash}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 22
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Dire Hit}}
| {{Bag3|Pecha Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Leppa Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| {{Bag3|Choice Band}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 23
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|X Attack}}
| {{Bag3|Rawst Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Scope Lens}}
| {{Bag3|Focus Band}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Sacred Ash}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 24
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|X Defense}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Leppa Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Quick Claw}}
| {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 25
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|X Speed}}
| {{Bag3|Chesto Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Bright Powder}}
| {{Bag3|Shell Bell}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Sacred Ash}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 26
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|X Accuracy}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Leppa Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| {{Bag3|Choice Band}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 27
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|X Sp. Atk}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Scope Lens}}
| {{Bag3|Focus Band}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Sacred Ash}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 28
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Guard Spec.}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Leppa Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Quick Claw}}
| {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 29
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Fluffy Tail}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Bright Powder}}
| {{Bag3|Shell Bell}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Sacred Ash}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 30
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Dire Hit}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Leppa Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| {{Bag3|Choice Band}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 31
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|X Attack}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Scope Lens}}
| {{Bag3|Focus Band}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Sacred Ash}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 32
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|X Defense}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Leppa Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Quick Claw}}
| {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 33
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|X Speed}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Bright Powder}}
| {{Bag3|Shell Bell}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Sacred Ash}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 34
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|X Accuracy}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Leppa Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| {{Bag3|Choice Band}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 35
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|X Sp. Atk}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Scope Lens}}
| {{Bag3|Focus Band}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Sacred Ash}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 36
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Guard Spec.}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Leppa Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Quick Claw}}
| {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 37
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion|Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Fluffy Tail}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Bright Powder}}
| {{Bag3|Shell Bell}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Sacred Ash}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 38
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Dire Hit}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Leppa Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| {{Bag3|Choice Band}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 39
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|X Attack}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Scope Lens}}
| {{Bag3|Focus Band}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Sacred Ash}}
|-
! style="background:#{{items color light}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 40
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|X Defense}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Lum Berry}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Ether}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Leppa Berry}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Revive}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Quick Claw}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
|}

=====Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness=====
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{items color}}; border: 3px solid #{{items color dark}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}; background: #{{items color light}}" | Level
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 30%
! colspan=6 style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 10%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" colspan=2 | 4%
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}; background: #{{items color light}}" colspan=2 | 1%
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1-10
| {{Bag3|Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Antidote}}
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Paralyze Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Burn Heal}}
| {{Bag3|X Attack}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Nugget}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 11-20
| {{Bag3|Antidote}}
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Paralyze Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Burn Heal}}
| {{Bag3|X Attack}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
| {{Bag3|Nugget}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 21-30
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Paralyze Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Burn Heal}}
| {{Bag3|X Attack}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 31-40
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Paralyze Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Burn Heal}}
| {{Bag3|X Attack}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Protein}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 41-50
| {{Bag3|Paralyze Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Burn Heal}}
| {{Bag3|X Attack}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Protein}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|White Herb}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 51-60
| {{Bag3|Burn Heal}}
| {{Bag3|X Attack}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Protein}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|HP Up}}
| [[File:Bag TM Psychic Sprite.png|TM44 (Rest)|link=TM44]]
| {{Bag3|White Herb}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 61-70
| {{Bag3|X Attack}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Protein}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|HP Up}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Elixir}}
| [[File:Bag TM Psychic Sprite.png|TM44 (Rest)|link=TM44]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 71-80
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Protein}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|HP Up}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| [[File:Bag TM Fighting Sprite.png|TM01 (Focus Punch)|link=TM01]]
| {{Bag3|Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 81-90
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Protein}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|HP Up}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|PP Up}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| [[File:Bag TM Fighting Sprite.png|TM01 (Focus Punch)|link=TM01]]
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 91-100
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Protein}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Revive}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|HP Up}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|PP Up}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Bag TM Ground Sprite.png|TM26 (Earthquake)|link=TM26]]
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
|}

=====Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum=====
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{items color}}; border: 3px solid #{{items color dark}}"
|-
! style="background: #{{items color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Level
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 30%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" colspan=6 | 10%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" colspan=2 | 4%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" colspan=2 | 1%
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1-10
| {{Bag3|Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Antidote}}
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Nugget}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 11-20
| {{Bag3|Antidote}}
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
| {{Bag3|Nugget}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 21-30
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 31-40
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Dusk Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 41-50
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Dusk Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Shiny Stone}}
| {{Bag3|White Herb}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 51-60
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Dusk Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Shiny Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Dawn Stone}}
| [[File:Bag TM Psychic Sprite.png|TM44 (Rest)|link=TM44]]
| {{Bag3|White Herb}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 61-70
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Dusk Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Shiny Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Dawn Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Elixir}}
| [[File:Bag TM Psychic Sprite.png|TM44 (Rest)|link=TM44]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 71-80
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Dusk Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Shiny Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Dawn Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| [[File:Bag TM Fighting Sprite.png|TM01 (Focus Punch)|link=TM01]]
| {{Bag3|Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 81-90
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Dusk Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Shiny Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Dawn Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|PP Up}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| [[File:Bag TM Fighting Sprite.png|TM01 (Focus Punch)|link=TM01]]
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 91-100
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Revive}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Dusk Stone}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Shiny Stone}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Dawn Stone}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|PP Up}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Bag TM Ground Sprite.png|TM26 (Earthquake)|link=TM26]]
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
|}

=====Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver=====
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{items color}}; border: 3px solid #{{items color dark}}"
|-
! style="background: #{{items color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Level
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 30%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" colspan=6 | 10%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" colspan=2 | 4%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" colspan=2 | 1%
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1-10
| {{Bag3|Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Antidote}}
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Max Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Nugget}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 11-20
| {{Bag3|Antidote}}
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Nugget}}
| {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 21-30
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 31-40
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 41-50
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Iron Ball}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 51-60
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Iron Ball}}
| [[File:Bag TM Dark Sprite.png|TM56 (Fling)|link=TM56]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 61-70
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| [[File:Bag TM Dark Sprite.png|TM56 (Fling)|link=TM56]]
| {{Bag3|Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 71-80
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Elixir}}
| [[File:Bag TM Grass Sprite.png|TM86 (Grass Knot)|link=TM86]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 81-90
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|PP Up}}
| [[File:Bag TM Grass Sprite.png|TM86 (Grass Knot)|link=TM86]]
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| style="{{roundybl|5px}}" | 91-100
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|PP Up}}
| {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | [[File:Bag TM Ground Sprite.png|TM26 (Earthquake)|link=TM26]]
|}

=====Pokémon Black and White=====
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{items color}}; border: 3px solid #{{items color dark}}"
|-
! style="background: #{{items color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Level
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 30%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" colspan=6 | 10%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" colspan=2 | 4%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" colspan=2 | 1%
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1-10
| {{Bag3|Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Antidote}}
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Max Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Nugget}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 11-20
| {{Bag3|Antidote}}
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Nugget}}
| {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 21-30
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 31-40
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Iron Ball}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 41-50
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Iron Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 51-60
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Prism Scale}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 61-70
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Prism Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 71-80
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Elixir}}
| {{Bag3|Prism Scale}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 81-90
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|PP Up}}
| {{Bag3|Prism Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 91-100
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Revive}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|PP Up}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| style="background:#fff;{{roundybr|5px}}" | {{Bag3|Prism Scale}}
|}

=====Pokémon Black 2, White 2, X, and Y=====
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{items color}}; border: 3px solid #{{items color dark}}"
|-
! style="background: #{{items color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Level
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 30%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" colspan=6 | 10%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" colspan=2 | 4%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" colspan=2 | 1%
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1-10
| {{Bag3|Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Antidote}}
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Nugget}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 11-20
| {{Bag3|Antidote}}
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Nugget}}
| {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 21-30
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 31-40
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 41-50
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Iron Ball}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 51-60
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Iron Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Prism Scale}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 61-70
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Prism Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 71-80
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Elixir}}
| {{Bag3|Prism Scale}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 81-90
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|PP Up}}
| {{Bag3|Prism Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 91-100
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Revive}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|PP Up}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{Bag3|Prism Scale}}
|}

=====Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire=====
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{items color}}; border: 3px solid #{{items color dark}}"
|-
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}; background: #{{items color light}}" | Level
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" | 30%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" colspan=6 | 10%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}" colspan=2 | 4%
! style="background: #{{items color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" colspan=2 | 1%
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 1-10
| {{Bag3|Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Antidote}}
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Nugget}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 11-20
| {{Bag3|Antidote}}
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Nugget}}
| {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 21-30
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|King's Rock}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 31-40
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 41-50
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| {{Bag3|Iron Ball}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 51-60
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Iron Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Destiny Knot}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 61-70
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Destiny Knot}}
| {{Bag3|Elixir}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 71-80
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Elixir}}
| {{Bag3|Destiny Knot}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
| 81-90
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| {{Bag3|PP Up}}
| {{Bag3|Destiny Knot}}
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | 91-100
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Revive}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|PP Up}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{Bag3|Destiny Knot}}
|}

=====Pokémon Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon=====
{| class="roundy" style="text-align: center; background: #{{items color}}; border: 3px solid #{{items color dark}}"
|-
! style="background:#{{items color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Item
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 1-10
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 11-20
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 21-30
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 31-40
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 41-50
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 51-60
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 61-70
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 71-80
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 81-90
! style="background:#{{items color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Lv 91-100
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Potion}}
| 25% || || || || || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Antidote}}
| 10% || 25% || || || || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| 10% || 10% || 25% || || || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Great Ball}}
| 10% || 10% || 10% || 25% || || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 20% || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Escape Rope}}
| 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 20% || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 20% || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| 5% || 5% || 5% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 20% || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Nugget}}
| 5% || 3% || || || || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Ultra Ball}}
| 3% || 3% || 5% || 5% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 20% ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Destiny Knot}}
| colspan=10 | 1%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| colspan=10 | 1%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| || 3% || 5% || 5% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| || 3% || 5% || 5% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 10%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Prism Scale}}
| || colspan=9 | 3%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| || 2% || 2% || 5% || 5% || 7% || 10% || 10% || 10% || 20%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Balm Mushroom}}
| || 1% || 3% || || || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| || || 3% || 3% || 3% || 8% || 8% || 8% || 8% || 8%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Pearl String}}
| || || 1% || 4% || || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Full Restore}}
| || || 1% || 1% || 2% || 3% || 5% || 5% || 10% || 15%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Big Nugget}}
| || || || 1% || 4% || 5% || 5% || 5% || 5% || 5%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| || || || 1% || 1% || 1% || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Heart Scale}}
| || || || || || 1% || 4% || 10% || 10% || 10%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Elixir}}
| || || || || || || 3% || 5% || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| || || || || || || || 2% || 10% || 10%
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|PP Up}}
| || || || || || || || || 1% || 4%
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff" |
| style="background:#fff" | 1%
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | 3%
|}

=====Pokémon Sword and Shield=====
{| class="roundy" style="text-align: center; background: #{{items color}}; border: 3px solid #{{items color dark}}"
|-
! style="background:#{{items color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Item
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 1-10
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 11-20
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 21-30
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 31-40
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 41-50
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 51-60
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 61-70
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 71-80
! style="background:#{{items color light}}" | Lv 81-90
! style="background:#{{items color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Lv 91-100
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Potion}}
| Very common || || || || || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Tiny Mushroom}}
| Common || Uncommon || || || || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Repel}}
| Uncommon || Common || || || || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Super Potion}}
| Uncommon || Uncommon || Common || || || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Poké Doll}}
| Uncommon || Uncommon || Uncommon || Common || || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Big Mushroom}}
| Rare || Uncommon || Uncommon || || || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Super Repel}}
| Rare || Uncommon || Uncommon || Uncommon || Common || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Full Heal}}
| Rare || Rare || Uncommon || Uncommon || Uncommon || Common || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Revive}}
| Rare || Rare || Rare || Uncommon || Uncommon || Uncommon || Common || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Hyper Potion}}
| Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Uncommon || Uncommon || Uncommon || Common || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Ether}}
| Very rare || Very rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || || || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Max Repel}}
| || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Uncommon || Uncommon || Uncommon || Common ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Moon Stone}}
| || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Uncommon || Uncommon
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Sun Stone}}
| || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Uncommon || Uncommon
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Rare Candy}}
| || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Nugget}}
| || || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Max Potion}}
| || || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Uncommon || Uncommon || Uncommon || Common
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Max Ether}}
| || || Very rare || Very rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || || ||
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|PP Up}}
| || || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Big Nugget}}
| || || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Destiny Knot}}
| || || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Leftovers}}
| || || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Mental Herb}}
| || || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Power Herb}}
| || || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|White Herb}}
| || || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare || Very rare
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Balm Mushroom}}
| || || Very rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Max Revive}}
| || || || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Uncommon || Uncommon || Uncommon
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Elixir}}
| || || || || Very rare || Very rare || Rare || Rare || Rare || Rare
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{Bag3|Max Elixir}}
| || || || || || || Very rare || Very rare || Rare || Rare
|- style="background:#fff"
| style="{{roundybl|5px}}" | {{Bag3|Bottle Cap}}
| || || || || || || || Very rare || Very rare || style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | Very rare
|}

==Pokémon with Pickup==
{{Ability/head|items}}
{{Ability/entry|052|Meowth|Normal|Normal|Pickup|Technician|Unnerve}}
{{Ability/entry|052A|Meowth|Dark|Dark|Pickup|Technician|Rattled|Alolan Form}}
{{Ability/entry|052G|Meowth|Steel|Steel|Pickup|Tough Claws|Unnerve|Galarian Form}}
{{Ability/entry|190|Aipom|Normal|Normal|Run Away|Pickup|Skill Link}}
{{Ability/entry|216|Teddiursa|Normal|Normal|Pickup|Quick Feet|Honey Gather}}
{{Ability/entry|231|Phanpy|Ground|Ground|Pickup|None|Sand Veil}}
{{Ability/entry|263|Zigzagoon|Normal|Normal|Pickup|Gluttony|Quick Feet}}
{{Ability/entry|263G|Zigzagoon|Dark|Normal|Pickup|Gluttony|Quick Feet|Galarian Form}}
{{Ability/entry|264|Linoone|Normal|Normal|Pickup|Gluttony|Quick Feet}}
{{Ability/entry|264G|Linoone|Dark|Normal|Pickup|Gluttony|Quick Feet|Galarian Form}}
{{Ability/entry|417|Pachirisu|Electric|Electric|Run Away|Pickup|Volt Absorb}}
{{Ability/entry|424|Ambipom|Normal|Normal|Technician|Pickup|Skill Link}}
{{Ability/entry|446|Munchlax|Normal|Normal|Pickup|Thick Fat|Gluttony}}
{{Ability/entry|506|Lillipup|Normal|Normal|Vital Spirit|Pickup|Run Away}}
{{Ability/entry|659|Bunnelby|Normal|Normal|Pickup|Cheek Pouch|Huge Power}}
{{Ability/entry|660|Diggersby|Normal|Ground|Pickup|Cheek Pouch|Huge Power}}
{{Ability/entry|702|Dedenne|Electric|Fairy|Cheek Pouch|Pickup|Plus}}
{{Ability/entry|710|Pumpkaboo|Ghost|Grass|Pickup|Frisk|Insomnia}}
{{Ability/entry|711|Gourgeist|Ghost|Grass|Pickup|Frisk|Insomnia}}
{{Ability/entry|731|Pikipek|Normal|Flying|Keen Eye|Skill Link|Pickup}}
{{Ability/entry|732|Trumbeak|Normal|Flying|Keen Eye|Skill Link|Pickup}}
{{Ability/foot|items}}

==In other games==
===[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]===
[[File:Munchlax SSBB.png|thumb|200px|Munchlax in Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]
After being released from a {{i|Poké Ball}}, {{sbw|Munchlax}} walks around and uses Pickup to eat items on the stage. However, it will not eat a living item (such as a {{wb|Mr. Saturn}}), an {{sbw|Assist Trophy}}, a Poké Ball, a {{sbw|Smash Ball}}, or collectibles (such as {{sbw|CD}}s, {{sbw|Trophy|Trophies}}, or {{sbw|Sticker}}s).

==={{g|Mystery Dungeon series}}===
Each time the player enters a floor, a Pokémon with Pickup will have a small chance of finding an item that can appear on that floor (other than [[Poké]]) as long as it is not holding an item. In [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|Explorers of Time, Darkness]], and [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|Sky]], Pickup will not activate prior to obtaining the [[Treasure Bag]].

Pickup works for [[Makuhita Dojo]], even though items do not spawn on the ground.

===Description===
{{movedesc|items}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrevmd|RB}}|Finds items if the Pokémon is not holding anything.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrevmd|TDS}}|Enables the Pokémon to find items occasionally when it is not holding anything.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrevmd|BSL}}|{{tt|なにもどうぐをもってないといつのまにかどうぐをひろっている|Enables the Pokémon to find items occasionally when it is not holding anything.}}}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrevmd|GTI}}|The Pokémon may pick up an item when it goes to a different floor.{{tt|*|Ability description}} When the Pokémon goes to a different floor, it may pick up an item! But if it is already holding an item, it won't pick up anything.{{tt|*|Used in message log}}}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrevmd|SMD}}|When the Pokémon goes to a different floor, it may pick up an item! But if it is already holding an item, it won't pick up anything.}}
|}
|}{{left clear}}

==In the anime==
{{moveanime|type=items|exp=yes|gen=The Pokémon finds many rare items and picks them up, even going as far as stealing items from others.|image1=Tokin Pickup.png|image1p=Linoone|image2=Held items anime.png|image2p=Stash of picked up items}}
{{movep|type=items|ms=264|pkmn=Linoone|method=Linoone finds many rare items everywhere and puts them in its cheeks. It even goes as far as to steal items from others.}}
{{movebtm|type=items|user=Kimmy Shoney|user1=Kimmy Shoney's Tokin|startcode=AG112|startname=Showdown at Linoone|notes=Debut}}

==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
{{movemanga|type=items|exp=yes|gen=The Pokémon picks up items it finds on the ground.|image1=Crystal Phanpy Pickup.png|image1p=Phanpy|image2=Lax Pickup.png|image2p=Munchlax}}
{{movep|type=items|ms=231|pkmn=Phanpy|method=Phanpy picks up items it finds on the ground and stores them in its mouth until its Trainer asks to receive them. It can hold up to three items at a time in its mouth.}}
{{movemid|type=items|user=Crystal (Adventures)|user1=Crystal's Phanpy|startcode=PS312|startname=Chipping Away at Regirock|notes=Debut}}
{{movep|type=items|ms=446|pkmn=Munchlax|method=Munchlax picks up items it finds and stores them in its fur. It can carry many, many items in its fur at once.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=items|user=Lax (Adventures)|user1=Diamond's Lax|startcode=PS338|startname=Stagestruck Starly}}

* In ''[[PS306|Pinsir Me, I Must Be Dreaming]]'', the {{pkmn2|rental}} {{p|Linoone}} that {{adv|Emerald}} used during his {{gdis|Battle Factory|III}} match against {{FB|Factory Head|Noland}} was revealed to have Pickup as his Ability by Emerald's [[Pokédex]].

===In the Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure! manga===
{{movemanga|type=items|exp=yes|gen=The Pokémon finds items left behind.|image1=Munchlax Pickup DPA.png|image1p=Munchlax}}
{{movep|type=items|ms=446|pkmn=Munchlax|method=Munchlax picks up an item.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=items|user=Munchlax (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Munchlax|startcode=DPA05|startname=Find Munchlax!!|notes=Debut}}

==In other languages==
{{Langtable|color={{items color}}|bordercolor={{items color dark}}
|zh_yue=撿拾 ''{{tt|Gímsahp|Pickup}}'' {{tt|*|Games & Manga}} 收集物件 ''{{tt|Sāujaahp Mahtgín|Collect Items}}'' {{tt|*|Anime}}
|zh_cmn=撿拾 / 捡拾 ''{{tt|Jiǎnshí|Pickup}}'' {{tt|*|Games & Manga}} 撿東西 ''{{tt|Jiǎn Dōngxī|Pickup Objects}}'' {{tt|*|Anime (Taiwan)}} 物品拾取 ''{{tt|Wùpǐn Shíqǔ|Items Pickup}}'' {{tt|*|PS312 (Mainland China (old Jilin edition))}}
|nl=Grijp
|fr=Ramassage
|de=Mitnahme
|it=Raccolta
|ko=픽업 ''Pick-Up''
|pt=Recolheita
|ru=Пополение ''Popoleniye''
|es=Recogida
|vi=Thu nhặt
}}
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